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[A. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America]
THE, UM, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING, UM, FOR DECEMBER 8TH, 2020.UH, THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
[B. Adoption of Agenda - Additions or Deletions]
IS THE, UM, THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.UH, DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS MR. CHAIR? OH, I'M SO SORRY YOU GO.
UH, THE, THE SHERIFF CAME UP TO ME.
HE HAS THREE LIFESAVING AWARDS THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT.
SO IF WE COULD JUST ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA DIRECTLY AFTER THE OKAY.
SHERIFF, YOU WANT TO DO THAT AT ANOTHER TIME? UM, MRS. SCHOLARS, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL, UH, ITEM IN PURCHASE AN INSTALLATION OF EMERGENCY GENERATORS FOR STATIONS FOUR, EIGHT, AND 10.
UM, MY REASON FOR PULLING IT IS THAT I'VE, UM, COME WITH INFORMATION OF A FEDERAL SURPLUS PROGRAM WHERE WE COULD POSSIBLY GET ALL OF THESE FOR FREE.
AND I'D LIKE TO TRY THAT AVENUE BEFORE I'M SPENDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY, BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT ANOTHER ITEM ON HERE WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
THEY COULD USE THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
SO I'D LIKE TO TRY THAT ROUTE FIRST.
TONY, DO YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEM? I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM PER SE.
THE ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE, AND I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT YOU FOUND A POSSIBILITY WE WERE GETTING THEM FOR SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED COST.
THE ONLY THING IS, DOES THAT DO ANYTHING AS FAR AS THE BID PROCESS OF THE BIDS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY COLLECTED? NO.
I WAS JUST LOOKING AT ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION TO THE BID DATE OKAY.
SO, NO, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT, ARCHIE.
REMOVE ITEM NUMBER AND ANYTHING ELSE NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION FOUR.
YOU NEED TO READ, VOTE ON THAT.
WELL, I MAY PUT IT AS EMOTION, UM, UH, MEGA MOTION ITEMS IN AND ADOPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AT ALL? CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. CARTER.
[C. Adoption of Resolution re: Special Recognition of Chief Richard Mabie]
ON OUR AGENDA IS THE ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION FOR SPECIAL, SPECIAL RECOGNITION OF GPS, MAYBE CHIEF, MAYBE.ARE YOU IN THE AUDIENCE? COME ON UP HERE, PLEASE.
WHEREAS RICHARD F MAYBE WAS, WAS APPOINTED THE FIRST FIRE CHIEF OF WARREN COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES ON AUGUST 7TH, 1995.
AND WHEREAS RICHARD L MAYBE THROUGH BOTH HIS CHARACTER AND PERFORMANCE HAS SIGNIFICANTLY CONTRIBUTED TO THE ADVANCEMENT OF THE FIRE AND RESCUE PROTECTION OF WARREN COUNTY.
AND WHEREAS RICHARD E MAYBE ESTABLISHED A WIDE RANGING COMBINATION OF FIRE AND RESCUE RESPONSE SYSTEMS COMPROMISE IF YOU DEDICATE THE DEDICATED CAREER AND VOLUNTEER EMERGENCY RESPONDERS.
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FORESTED AN ENVIRONMENT THAT CREATED THE DEPARTMENT SLOGAN OF OUR DEPARTMENT, ONE MISSION, WHICH EXEMPLIFIES THE DEPARTMENT'S MISSION STATEMENT TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AS ONE SINGLE DEPARTMENT WITH A CO A COMMON MISSION TO DELIVER THE HIGHEST OF SERVICES AND FOR, FROM AT OUR BEST TO THOSE IN NEED OF THE, OF THEIR WORST.HE MAYBE WASN'T ANNOUNCED HIS OR HER AUDIO HAS GONE FOR ME.
CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT CLOSER THAN THAT? YEAH.
WHEREAS RICHARD, HE MAYBE HAS ANNOUNCED HIS RETIREMENT AS THE CHIEF OF DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES EFFECTIVE DECEMBER 30TH, 2020 NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE WARREN BOARD OF SUPERVISORS EXPRESSES THIS EXTERIOR APPRECIATION TO RICHARD E MAYBE FOR THE OUTSTANDING LEADERSHIP AND SERVICE, WHICH HE HAS UNSELFISHLY GIVEN ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF WARREN COUNTY FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS AND FIVE MONTHS.
AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HOLDS RICHARD EMA B IN THE HIGHEST ESTEEM AS AN HONORABLE MEMBER OF WARREN COUNTY DEPARTMENT FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES WHO HAS REPEATEDLY DEMONSTRATED HIS COMMITMENT TO WARREN COUNTY AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS EXTENDS TO RICHARD III, MAYBE IT'S DEEP APPRECIATION AND SINCERE GRATITUDE FOR HIS DEDICATED EFFORTS ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY FOR THE BENEFIT BENEFIT OF ALL OF ITS CITIZENS.
AND BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED THAT THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES AFFIRMS THAT RICHARD III MAY BE, IS WORTHY OF RECEIVING DEPARTMENT OF FOREIGN RESCUE SERVICES, HIGH STORED, AND HEREBY CON CONFERS THE DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARD UPON RICHARD EMH ADOPTED THIS EIGHTH DAY OF DECEMBER ON 2020 SIGNED BY MR. DALEY OR DR.
DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH, IF I GUESS YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT I HAD TO SAY A FEW WORDS, BUT I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS REALLY NICE.
UM, I DON'T WANT TO GO, BUT, UM, HELLO, YOU GUYS WILL MISS COMING TO WORK EVERY DAY.
AND THAT'S WHEN THE BOARD AT THAT TIME DECIDED TO HIRE FULL-TIME FIRE CHIEF, AND I THINK THEY MADE A GOOD CHOICE.
UM, AND I THINK WE'VE SEEN TREMENDOUS, UM, GAINS NOT ONLY IN THE PAID STAFF, BUT ESPECIALLY WITH THE VOLUNTEERS.
AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT AN EASY THING TO KIND OF COORDINATE SOMETIMES, CAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS THAT BACK AND FORTH.
BUT I REMEMBER SOMETIME BACK THAT IT SEEMED LIKE YOU TALKED TO A COMPANY ONE AND THEY ONLY ASKED WITH COMPANY TWO AND YOU CHECK COMPANY TWO AND COMPANY ONE WERE BEST BUDDIES AND EVERYONE ELSE WITH SOMEBODY ELSE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF THAT HAS GONE AWAY.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU DESERVE A LOT OF THAT CREDIT.
UH, AND AS YOU SAID TO, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, UH, IT'S MANDATORY RETIREMENT AND IT WASN'T BY CHOICE BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID YOU'D LIKE TO STAY, BUT, UH, I THINK THAT'S THE STATE REGS OR WHATEVER.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.
UM, YOU FIGURE YOU CAN WORK WITH ALLOWABLE,
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THE BOSSES, RIGHT? UM, IN 25 YEARS, I'VE WORKED FROM A LOT OF BOARDS, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WE NEVER EXPECT TO AGREE ON EVERYTHING.UM, I'M GOING TO PRAISE THIS BOARD HERE GOES, THAT'S THE ONE I'M GOING OUT WITH.
WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY WITH GRANTS AND SO FORTH THAT Y'ALL ARE SUPPORTED.
AND, UH, I CAN HONESTLY SAY WHAT A WAY TO GO OUT, UM, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND STUFF THAT WE NEEDED.
AND, UH, REMEMBER THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA TODAY, TOO, THAT WE NEED AS WELL.
SO I THOUGHT I'D GET THAT ONE IN BEFORE LAST, BUT, UM, I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.
I USED TO BE A JOKE THAT I WAS GOING TO BE THE BEST DRESSED HERBIE DON'T WITH THIS BOY, WHATEVER I SAW, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I'LL STILL BE HERE.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN A VERY GOOD BOARD TO WORK WITH.
I WISH I HAD SOME MORE TIME TO DO WORK WITH YOU.
UM, I WILL SAY THIS, THAT THIS IS THE BEST GROUP OF GUYS YOU COULD EVER HAVE OUT THERE WATCHING YOUR BACK EVERY DAY.
AND, UH, I'M SURE FROM HERE, UH, WE'VE GIVEN THE NEW CHIEF A LOT TO WORK WITH AND ON, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY, BUT I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THIS BOARD HAS DONE FOR THE FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT AND EVERYTHING.
THIS GROUP OF GUYS HERE HAS DONE FOR ME.
SO I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE, EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE GIVEN TO THIS COMMUNITY AND TO US AS INDIVIDUALS YOU'RE HELPLESS, UM, VERY EMOTIONAL FOR ME TO READ THE RESOLUTION.
IT WAS, UM, BECAUSE I BELIEVED IT.
I DON'T KNOW YOU AS WELL AS MANY OTHER FOLKS IN THIS ROOM, BUT, UM, YOU'VE DONE THIS AT A GOOD SERVICE AND I APPRECIATE IT.
AND I THANK YOU A LOT AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, THE NAVY, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING ON WITH YOU AND, UH, OVER THE MANY YEARS AND THE COMPANY THAT YOU OWN, THE GREAT, GREAT GABBY OF DINING AND SEE THAT SAY THE DEPARTMENT IN POOP TO THE EXTENT THAT IT HAS, IT'S BEEN A REAL PATIENT.
I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE HAVING WORKED WITH YOU.
ONE GUY UP HERE, IT GETS A PAT ON THE BACK AND SO FORTH.
HE'D SORT OF GUYS WOULD DO IT, UH, EVERY DAY.
UM, AND THEY'LL STILL BE HERE.
I'VE STILL GREAT THINGS TO COME WELL.
I WISH YOU WELL ON YOUR RETIREMENT.
I HOPE THE HONEY LIST FROM YOUR WIFE IS NOT TOO LONG, BUT ENOUGH TO KEEP YOU FROM GETTING BORED.
SINCE YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION HONORING CHIEF RICHARD III, MAYBE FOR HIS YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE FRONT WORLD, WARREN COUNTY COMMUNITY, WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES.
IS THERE A SECOND, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS? COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE MENTIONED SHIRAKI MR. FOX.
MR. CHAIRMAN, MS. OATS, MR. CARTER.
THANK Y'ALL ONCE AGAIN AT, UH, SPRINGS A LOT.
UM, I GOT IN THIS BUSINESS WHEN I WAS 18.
UH, I SPENT 26 YEARS IN RICHMOND AND THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SEE ME GO, BUT, UH, THEY CERTAINLY DIDN'T DO THE OFFICIAL, THIS, THIS WAS SOME OF THE LAST TIME I EVER FOR ME.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO GIVE ON ANY RELEVANT ISSUE, NOT THE SUBJECT OF A PUBLIC HEARING.
AND IT'S NOT INTENDED AS A QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD SHALL BE LIMITED TO 60 MINUTES
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WITH A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES.SPEAKER SPEAKERS MAY ONLY SPEAK ONCE AND SPEAKERS WILL BE HEARD.
AND THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY HAVE SIGNED UP, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE, THIS BOARD WILL NOT TOLERATE DIRECT CONFRONTATION ABOUT A PERSON, A MEMBER OF THE STAFF OR THE BOARD.
YOU WILL BE ASKED ONLY ONCE TO BRING COMMENTS BACK INTO LINE.
AND THE SECOND TIME YOU WILL BE ASKED TO BE ESCORTED OUT OF THE BOARDROOM.
WE WILL NOT ACT ON A CIVIL MANNER.
WE WILL ALL ACT IN A CIVIL MANNER.
MRS. SHIRAKI HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP? NO.
MR. CHAIRMAN
[E. Report - Virginia Department of Transportation - Ed Carter]
AGENDA IS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND I KNOW MR. CARTER ISN'T HERE.I DON'T THINK
SHOULD WE READ THIS IN OR IS IT, IT SHOULD BE PART OF A REGULAR FILE, CORRECT? IT'LL BE PART OF THE FILE.
YOU DON'T NEED TO READ ALL OF IT.
THANK YOU GENTLEMEN, ON THIS, I'M SORRY.
UH, I HAD A CALL FROM SOMEBODY.
I HAD AN EMAIL FROM SOMEBODY ON SUNDAY REGARDING A HIGH KNOB ENTRANCE, WHICH HAS BEEN AN ONGOING CONCERN FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
UM, THERE'VE BEEN A FAIR NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS THERE.
UM, AND WE HAD LOOKED AT THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, I BELIEVE.
AND WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOW UP.
AND WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU'RE MAKING A LEFT HAND TURN HEADING WEST AND PEOPLE POP OVER THE HILL AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FOR THEM TO BREAK.
UH, THE PEOPLE THAT I SPOKE WITH, THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY GOOD INTENTIONS.
THEY SUGGESTED MAYBE A TRAFFIC LIGHT.
I DISCUSSED THAT WITH MR. CARTER AND HE SAID B DOT DOESN'T PUT TRAFFIC LIGHTS ON PRIMARY ROADS WITH 55 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT.
UM, WE HAVE RUMBLE STRIPS THERE.
WE HAVE FLASHING LIGHTS, BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE JUST KINDA THEY'D WELL-PAID INTO THE SCENERY.
UH, THE OTHER THING WE TALKED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO WAS, UM, PUTTING UP A WARNING SIGN WITH A FLASHING LIGHTS ARE THAT WOULD DETECT WHEN A CAR WAS, UH, STOPPED, GETTING READY TO MAKE A TURN.
I ASKED MR. CARTER TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
AND HE CAME BACK AND SAID, INITIALLY, THEY THOUGHT HE'D BE ABLE TO DO IT WITH A WIFI OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THE DISTANCE AND THE HILL WAS TOO MUCH TO HAVE THAT, UH, WORK.
AND HE SAID, IF IT, IF I'M NOT NECESSARILY IN FAVOR OF PROCEEDING WITH IT, BUT I GUESS WE CAN LOOK AT IT WHEN WE HAVE THEIR, UM, PUBLIC HEARING WHERE THEIR PRIMARY ROAD SYSTEM.
BUT HE SAID THE ONLY WAY IT WOULD WORK WOULD BE, UH, LAY CABLE ABOUT 1400 FEET, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT A HUNDRED, $120,000.
UM, AND IT'S ON THE SMART PLAN FOR V DOT IT'S ON THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND CURRENTLY IT'S ESTIMATED TO PUT THE TRAFFIC TURN LANE IN THERE.
IT WOULD BE ABOUT A HUNDRED AND NOW IT'D BE ABOUT 2.3, 2.4 MILLION.
AND THEN WHEN YOU FACTOR IN INFLATION, BY THE TIME THEY ACTUALLY GET TO IT, IT'D BE MORE LIKE 3.3.
AND I THINK 55 FOR LANDING THAT IS, UH, CURRENTLY THE TOP PRIORITY ON THE SIX-YEAR PLAN FOR THIS BOARD.
AND AGAIN, THAT CAN BE MORE DISCUSSIONS, UH, WITH THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING.
AND ALSO I ASKED HIM WHILE I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH HIM, WHAT THE, UM, CURRENT STATUS OF THE ROCKLAND OVER PASS, CAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER MAJOR PROJECT.
AND THAT REALLY IMPACTS A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN THE TRAINS ARE BLOCKING IT.
AND HE SAID RIGHT NOW, CAUSE I THINK LAST REPORT WE HAD FROM HIM THEY'D RUN INTO SOME SINKHOLES AND THAT INCREASED THE COST AND WHAT HE TOLD ME, IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY, THEY HAVE PUT IN A, UM,
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A REQUEST FOR SOME GRANT OR SOME, SOME POT OF MONEY FOR ABOUT 5 MILLION.AND HE SAID THAT WOULD STILL BE ABOUT A MILLION DOLLAR SHORT, BUT HE FELT, HE THOUGHT THAT MAYBE ONCE THEY RE-ENGINEERED IT, THEY COULD MAKE THAT DIFFERENCE UP.
IT'S STILL GOING TO BE A COUPLE, HOPEFULLY A COUPLE OF YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE TIMEFRAME IS FOR THAT, BUT I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW, I DID TALK TO HIM THE OTHER DAY ABOUT THESE ISSUES AND, UH, HE, HE TOLD ME THAT HE WAS NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE IT BECAUSE OF THE VTS PROTOCOLS AND I TRIED TO GET HIM CAUSE THAT'S THE THING TOO IS THE FIRST YEAR IN MANY, MANY YEARS, WE'VE NOT HAD THE SCHOOL KIDS COME AND SING CHRISTMAS CAROLS.
UH, I TRY TO GET THEM TO COME AND SING A FEW CHRISTMAS CAROLS, BUT HE DECLINED TO DO THAT.
SO WE JUST HAVE TO DO WITHOUT THIS YEAR AND THAT'S ALL PASS IT OFF ON COVID YEP.
DELORES, DID YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL? YEAH.
SO THERE WAS A MEETING ON THURSDAY WITH RESPECT TO THE EVER PASS THAT, UM, MR. DALEY, DR.
DALEY ATTENDED BECAUSE, UM, THERE WAS A LITTLE TECHNICAL GLITCH THAT ALLOWED A FEW OF US NOT TO GET ON SOME MR. BARRY AND DR.
AND THERE WAS AN UPDATE WITH RESPECT TO THAT OVERPASS OR FLY OVER.
DAILY, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO ADD TO WHAT MR. CARTER HAS SHARED WITH THE COMMUNITY? PRIMARY THING WOULD BE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A PUBLIC HEARING IN THE SPRING, PROBABLY APRIL, MAYBE MAY, BUT IN THAT TIMEFRAME, THERE WILL BE A PRELIMINARY, A FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON THE DESIGN.
SO EVERYBODY WILL BE ABLE TO GET TO SEE AND A LITTLE BIT, THEY ARE GOING TO SEND US SOME MATERIALS SO THAT WE CAN SHOW THE BOARD, UH, THEIR DESIGN, WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE A LITTLE BIT, PARTICULARLY WORKING ON THE IDEA OF THIS THREE DIMENSIONAL DESIGN, WHICH I THINK WILL BE REALLY INTERESTING FOR YOU TO SEE MR. BARRY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? YEAH.
[F. Report - Economic Development Authority - Doug Parsons]
REPORT FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
UM, I'LL START OFF WITH OUR AUDITS.
UH, BROWN EDWARDS HAS SENT DRAFT DOCUMENTS TO OUR ACCOUNTANT.
WHO'S BEEN WORKING WITH BROWN EDWARDS TO PRODUCE OUR FYI 18 AND 19 AUDITS.
UM, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE CLASSIFICATION OF CERTAIN PORTIONS OF OUR DEBT RELATED TO PAST PROJECTS.
SO WE'RE REALLY GETTING INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THINGS.
AND, UM, I'VE KIND OF PINNED DOWN BROWN EDWARDS ON A DATE CAUSE THIS IS DRUG ON AND ON AND ON.
AND SO I'VE, WE HAVE A LINE IN THE SAND FOR DECEMBER 31ST FOR AT LEAST THE 18 AUDIT AND THEN THE 19, HOPEFULLY IN JANUARY, CAUSE THE 19 SHOULD BE MUCH EASIER THAN THE 18, UM, ON OUR WEBSITE.
REZNAK THE GIS COORDINATOR FOR THE COUNTY FOR WORKING WITH US TO DESIGN AND INTERACT WITH PROPERTIES PAGE TO GO ON OUR NEW WEBSITE.
ONCE THAT'S DONE, WE'LL JUST NEED TO EDIT THE TEXT ON CERTAIN OF THE OTHER PAGES.
AND WE'VE SET A LINE IN THE SAND FOR DECEMBER 31ST TO GET THE FIRST PHASE OF THAT WEBSITE UP AS WELL.
UM, SO WE CAN GET THAT GOING ON.
OUR PROPERTIES, THE REMEDIATION WORK AT OUR OFFICES IS DONE FROM WHERE WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF FLOODING IN THE BASEMENT.
WE'RE NOW WORKING TO GET NEW, SOME PUMPS INSTALLED TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
UH, THE SALVATION ARMY IS ANGEL TREE REC NETWORK IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE SPACE, UH, AT ONE OF OUR OFFICES FOR THE STORAGE AND THE DISTRIBUTION OF TOYS FOR CHILDREN IN NEED.
THIS HOLIDAY, THE SEASON PROSPECTS WE HAVE HAD EXCELLENT PROGRESS ON THREE PROJECTS.
UH, GENERALLY OUR PROSPECT ACTIVITY IS UP EVEN WITH THE COVID CRISIS AND THE HOLIDAYS.
AND PERHAPS IN LARGE PART BECAUSE OF THE COVID CRISIS.
THERE ARE CERTAIN INDUSTRY SECTORS THAT ARE ACTUALLY SEEING AN INCREASE IN ACTIVITY AND THAT'S LED TO MORE PROSPECTS, I THINK FOR, FOR OUR BUILDINGS AND OUR SITES, ESPECIALLY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE VIRGINIA INLAND PORT, THAT CONTINUES TO BE A HUGE DRAW FOR PROSPECTS TO OUR AREA.
UM, WE ALSO NOW HAVE THREE SHORT TERM STORAGE LEASES IN PLACE FOR FOUR 26 BALL DRIVE THAT WILL COVER 30% OF THE TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP WHILE WE WORK TOWARD ULTIMATELY SELLING THE BUILDING.
WHEN OUR BUSINESS READY SITES PROGRAM THROUGH THE STATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICE, THE FRONT ROW OF TOWN COUNCIL APPROVED THE REZONING TWO PARCELS AT HAPPY CREEK FROM RESIDENTIAL TO INDUSTRIAL.
I WANT TO THANK DAN FARRELL AT THRASHER ENGINEERING AND THE FRONT ROYAL PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT, UM, AND THEIR COMMISSION, AS WELL AS THE TOWN COUNCIL FOR THIS APPROVAL.
THIS WILL HELP TO RAISE THE TIER RANKING WITH VDP AND THE OVERALL COMPETITIVENESS OF THAT
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SITE WITH OTHER SITES AROUND THE STATE FOR, FOR NEW OPPORTUNITIES.THE STATE GO VIRGINIA BOARD WAS SUPPOSED TO VOTE ON AN APPLICATION THROUGH THE SHENANDOAH VALLEY PARTNERSHIP FOR GRANT FUNDING FOR OTHER DUE DILIGENCE WORK, UH, YESTERDAY.
AND I WAS HOPING TO HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS TODAY, BUT THAT VOTE WAS DELAYED UNTIL MARCH, BUT, UM, THE SHENANDOAH VALLEY PARTNERSHIP, ALTHOUGH WE'RE NOT A MEMBER OF THAT GROUP, UH, THEY WERE GOOD ENOUGH TO INCLUDE US IN THEIR GRANT APPLICATION FOR SOME FUNDING FOR THE DUE DILIGENCE WORK AT STEVENS.
AND IF WE GET THAT MONEY, UH, THAT WOULD BE, UM, A PROJECT THAT THEY WOULD ADMINISTER FOR US.
AND WITHIN SEVEN MONTHS TIME, WE SHOULD HAVE A LOT OF THE DUE DILIGENCE WORK IN PLACE FOR STEPHENS THAT COULD JUMP US FROM A TIER TWO TO A TIER FOUR AT THAT SITE.
AND I WOULD MAKE THAT SITE SUPER COMPETITIVE AS WELL.
UM, COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS, UM, MY BOARD CHAIR, JEFF BROWN PARTICIPATED IN A BLUE RIDGE ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS, UH, MARKETING AND ECONOMIC SUMMIT BY ZOOM TO REPORT ON THE CURRENT RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL MARKETS AND FRONT ROW IN WARREN COUNTY.
AND I WANTED TO THANK JEFF FOR STEPPING UP WHILE I WAS OUT THAT DAY LEACH RUN PARKWAY, AND WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS THERE TO FINAL CONTRACTOR, VOICE HAS BEEN SUBMITTED AND PAID.
UH, THE ENGINEER HAS PREPARED IT COMPILED THE DOCUMENTS FOR THE NOTICE OF TERMINATION AND WE'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW OR RATHER HE IS ON A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN THAT THEY'LL NEED TO, UH, TO SIGN OFF ON AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE NOTICE OF TERMINATION DONE AND THE PROJECT WILL BE DONE TO, AND AS PART OF THAT, UM, UH, WE WILL NEED TO TRANSFER OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTIES DIRECTLY UNDER THE ROAD ON LEACH RAY LEECH, RUN PARKWAY TO THE TOWN AS PART OF THAT MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE ENGINEERS AND VIDOT ON GOING FORWARD TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF.
SO WITH THAT, ANY QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, JUST I READ IN THE PAPER, UH, AND I DON'T THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT, OF COURSE THAT'S BETWEEN THE ADA AND THE TOWN, BUT THE AFTERNOON PROPERTY THAT I, THERE, I THINK THERE WAS A TWO-PRONGED APPROACH THAT YOU WERE GOING TO GO, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE SEEKING AUTHORIZATION TO SELL IT TO THE TWO EAST MAIN OR WHOEVER ELSE.
AND THEN I GUESS, HOW DOES THAT WORK AS FAR AS THE PROCEEDS FROM THAT SALE? WELL, SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION RIGHT NOW WITH THE TOWN, AS IT RELATES TO, TO THE SALE OF THE AFT AND THEN A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT THAT, THAT IS IN DISPUTE.
AND THEN THERE'S A LAND EXCHANGE AGREEMENT.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR ATTORNEYS RIGHT NOW TO TRY TO COME TO A RESOLUTION SO THAT WE CAN SELL THE AFTERNOON AND GET IT INTO THE HANDS OF, OF TWO EAST MAIN.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED ARCHITECT AND A VERY EXPERIENCED DEVELOPER WHO WE BELIEVE WILL DO A GREAT JOB WITH THE PROPERTY AND TURN IT INTO WHAT WE ALL WANT TO SEE, WHICH IS A JUUL INSTEAD OF AN EYESORE AND HAVE IT BE SOMETHING THAT, UH, WILL ATTRACT BUSINESS AND TOURISM AND SO FORTH TO DOWNTOWN.
SO WE'D REALLY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH WITH THE SALE.
UM, WE'D LIKE TO REACH OUT TO THE TOWN AND WORK WITH THEM COOPERATIVELY TO COME TO SOME RESOLUTION.
UH, WE BELIEVE THE SALE PROCEEDS SHOULD GO BACK TO THE LINE OF CREDIT FROM WHERE THE FUNDS CAME TO DO THE WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE TO THE PROPERTY TO GET THAT TAX PAYER THAT PAID BACK DOWN AND SAVE THE TAXPAYERS FEATURE INTEREST EXPENSE ON THAT AMOUNT OF THE PRINCIPAL OF THAT ONE.
I THINK THE OTHER THING WAS TOO THAT IF IT DIDN'T COME TO FRUITION, UH, AND THEY LOOKED AT THAT BEFORE AND EVERY DEMOLITION AS A SECOND OPTION, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MY FEELINGS AND I'M ONLY SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT BUILDING FIXED UP AND RESTORED AND SEE IT IN THE HANDS OF THESE VERY EXPERIENCED ARCHITECTS AND DEVELOPERS WHO I THINK I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF FAITH IN THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS.
AND I THINK THEY'D DO A GREAT JOB AND I THINK THEY'D MAKE THE BUILDING SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ALL BE PROUD OF.
SO I'M REALLY HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN WORK OUT SOMETHING WITH THE TOWN.
AND I KNOW THE PRIMARY FOCUS, I GUESS, IN INDUSTRY AND BRINGING IN JOBS AND TAX BASE.
BUT I GUESS SOME YEARS BACK WHEN THEY EXPANDED THE SCOPE OF THE IDA AND TURNED IT ADA COMMERCIAL WAS A PART OF IT TOO.
UM, AND JUST GOING THROUGH TOWN ON A DAILY BASIS, I NOTICED ON SOUTH STREET USED TO BE THE OLD FIRST CITIZENS BANK.
THAT'S EMPTY THAT I THINK HE USED TO BE A BB AND T BANK NEXT TO THAT.
AND THEN IT WAS A USED CAR LOT.
UH, OF COURSE NOW YOU GOT THE LUSTER AND MALLORY'S, UH, BUILDINGS EMPTY IS FOUR OR FIVE EMPTY SHOPS ON MAIN STREET.
UH, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE WHAT IMPACT COVID HAD ON THAT TOO, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE
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THERE'S, THERE'S GOOD, UH, COMMERCIAL SITES.SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT'S ANYTHING THAT THE EDA TRIED, YOU KNOW, TRIED TO BRING IN SMALL BUSINESSES, INCUBATORS, ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
I MEAN, I CAN SAY JUST HERE RECENTLY, WE HAD A PROSPECT FOR SPACE OUT OF THE KENDRICK LANE BUILDING, AND IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE A GOOD FIT.
WE REFERRED THAT GENTLEMAN TO, UM, A BUILDING OWNER DOWNTOWN WHO DID HAVE THE KIND OF SPACE, UM, THAT HE WAS LOOKING FOR.
AND I DON'T THINK THEY'VE CONSUMMATED A DEAL YET, BUT THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE A LONG WAY DOWN THE ROAD.
BE GLAD TO WORK WITH ANYONE IN TOWN WHO HAS PROPERTIES THAT THEY WANT TO MARKET.
AND WE PLAN TO HAVE A SECTION ON OUR WEBSITE ON OUR PROPERTIES PAGE FOR PRIVATELY HELD PROPERTIES OR PROPERTIES THAT ARE ONE THE REAL LISTING WITH A BROKER OR A REAL ESTATE AGENT.
AND WE'RE MORE THAN GLAD TO MARKET THOSE PROPERTIES FOR FOLKS.
MOST OF THE PROSPECTS THAT WE GET ARE UNBURIED, INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING, LOGISTICS, TRANSPORTATION, BUT WE DO OCCASIONALLY GET RETAIL PROSPECTS.
AND WE'RE GLAD WE TRIED TO GET THOSE OUT TO, UH, TO THOSE FOLKS BECAUSE I THINK MAIN STREET, YOU KNOW, IT HAS BEEN A LOT OF INVESTMENT WITH SOME OF THE BUILDINGS DOWN THERE AND IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD.
UH, THERE'S STILL SOME BUILDINGS THAT NEED SOME ATTENTION AND IT'S PROBABLY SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES WE'VE HAD FOREVER WHERE YOU HAVE ABSENTEE, UH, LANDLORD FROM, THEY OWN THE BUILDING AND THEY LIVE IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA AND THEY WANT THE NORTHERN VIRGINIA RENTS AND THEY DON'T REALLY WANT TO PUT A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THE BUILDING, BUT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME GOOD OPPORTUNITIES THERE FOR, FOR THE RIGHT FIT.
AND THEN IN, IN LIKE AGAIN, I GO DOWN MAIN STREET FAIRLY FREQUENTLY AND IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, THERE'S VERY FEW OPEN PARKING SPACES THERE TOO.
I KNOW WE GOT SOME GOOD RESTAURANTS DOWN THERE AND IT HELPS DRAW PEOPLE IN THE WHOLE THING.
ANY ADDITIONAL FROM THE BOARD? THANK YOU, DOUG.
[G. Reports - Board Members and County Administrator]
ON OUR AGENDA IS THE REPORT FOR THE, FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS.UM, MR. CARTER, WOULD YOU WANT ME TO START US TODAY? SURE MENTIONED.
YOU KNOW, IN THE YEARS PAST WE'VE HAD THE KIDS COME, BUT THAT'S BEEN A CASUALLY, A PROBATE, UH, AND THEY ALWAYS, UH, SPREAD SOME GOOD HOLIDAY CHEER.
I DON'T WANT TO PULL IT OFF, BUT I SEE WE'VE GOT A REAPPOINTMENT OF JOHN VANCE AND THE REAPPOINTMENT OF, FOR AN ALDI TO THE WELL AND SEPTIC, UM, WERE THOSE ADVERTISED? I KNOW IT SAYS IN THE BACKGROUND THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY BOTH WERE WILLING TO, THE TWO PEOPLE ON THERE ALREADY WERE WILLING TO SERVE FURTHER, BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING, DID WE ADVERTISE THOSE? YES.
AND AS INDICATED ON THE COVER SHEETS THAT WERE ADVERTISED ON THE BULLETIN BOARD, THEY WERE ADVERTISED IN THE PAPER ON CHANNEL 16 AND ON OUR WEBSITE.
AND WE RECEIVED NO ADDITIONAL APPLICATIONS FOR EITHER.
UM, YEAH, LIKE I SAID, THIS HAS BEEN A, A HECK OF A YEAR AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PASS A RESOLUTION TO MAKE, UH, 20, 21 START TODAY, MAYBE GET OVER WITH WITH IT.
BUT ANYWAY, HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WILL BE BETTER.
I THINK WE'RE ALL OPTIMISTIC ALONG THOSE LINES AND JUST LIKE TO WISH EVERYBODY A, UH, A GOOD HOLIDAY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO THE, UH, UPCOMING YEAR.
I JUST WANNA, UH, SAY I HOPE EVERYBODY HAD A WONDERFUL THANKSGIVING.
IT MAY HAVE BEEN A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT WE HAD BEAUTIFUL WEATHER FOR IT.
UM, ON NOVEMBER 21ST, I, UH, WENT DOWN TO THE HAPPY CREEK COALITION THAT, UM, I THINK IT WAS POSTED AS A PROTEST, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE OF AN INFORMATIVE, UM, ADVENTURE ALONG THE HAPPY CREEK TO SEE THE, UM, WHAT THE TOWN IS DOING THERE WITH THE BANKS.
IT WAS, IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE.
THEY HAD, UM, DIFFERENT PEOPLE AT DIFFERENT STATIONS THAT WALKED YOU THROUGH, GAVE YOU A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, INFORMATION ON THE 23RD.
THEN I DID, I TENDED THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING, WHERE THEY PRESENTED THE SAME INFORMATION TO THE TOWN COUNCIL.
THEY WERE VERY INFORMATIVE, VERY RESPECTFUL GROUP.
AND, UM, I ASKED FOR PROJECT PLANS AT THAT POINT, CAUSE I I'VE NOT SEEN ANY PLANS.
DIDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT THE END RESULT OF THAT PROJECT IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE, AND I'M STILL WAITING FOR THOSE.
SO I HAD HOPED THAT AFTER LISTENING TO THEM THAT MAYBE THE REASON I DIDN'T GET THE PLANS WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE TWEAKING THEM TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION
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ALL THE INFORMATION THAT HAD BEEN GIVEN, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT IS.SO WHEN I FIND OUT THAT, CAUSE THAT PORTION OF HAPPY CREEK IS IN MY DISTRICT AND I TRY TO STAY UP ON THOSE THINGS.
UM, THE 24TH ATTENDED THE FIRE CHIEFS MEETING, UH, WAS A SMALL GROUP.
IT WAS A, A GOOD NIGHT OF DISCUSSION AMONGST THOSE THAT WERE THERE.
UH, WE DISCUSSED, UM, THE STAFFING THAT IS GOING ON WHEREVER MY FIRE DEPARTMENT, NORTH WARREN'S ROOF.
AND I THINK THAT INFORMATION GUIDELINE TO THE CHIEF OUT THERE, HOPEFULLY ON THE 28TH, AS A MEMBER, THE SOUTH HORN RUE TAN, I, UM, HELP THE SALVATION ARMY BY RINGING THE BELL UP AT THE RURAL KING.
RURAL KING DOES A BOOM IN BUSINESS.
AND I I'VE LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE AND I HARDLY KNEW ANYBODY COMING IN AND OUT.
SO WE'RE BRINGING IN PEOPLE FROM A DISTANCE.
I DO BELIEVE ON DECEMBER 5TH, I HAD BREAKFAST COMPLIMENTS OF THE QUANTIS CLUB AND IT WAS DIFFERENT THIS YEAR, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS LIKE INSIDE, BUT OUTSIDE YOU GUYS HAD THAT THING, IT WAS A WELL-OILED MACHINE.
THE FOOD WAS DELICIOUS AND COULDN'T HAVE BEEN EASIER.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT ON POST COVID OR NOT, BUT KUDOS TO YOUR CLUB.
WE ACTUALLY, WE LIKED THE WAY IT WORKED IT, UH, I THOUGHT IT WORKED MAYBE BETTER THAN GOING INSIDE.
SO, UM, THERE AGAIN, THANK YOU.
THAT'S A GOOD GROUP DOING A LOT FOR CHILDREN.
AND OTHER THAN THAT, I JUST WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HOPEFULLY A HAPPY, HEALTHY NEW YEAR'S MR. FOX.
UH, JUST LIKE THE REPORT, UH, YESTERDAY I MET WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND DISCUSS THEIR NEEDS FOR THEIR BETTER COMMUNICATIONS, NOT ONLY BETWEEN THE STATIONS, BUT ACTUALLY COMMUNICATIONS WHEN NEEDED BETWEEN FOUR FIGHTERS AND FIREFIGHTERS.
UH, AND SO THAT WAS QUITE AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION.
AND, UH, I LOOK FORWARD IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE COULD DO TO HELP IMPROVE THOSE, THOSE NEEDS, THAT WOULD SUPPORT SUPPORT THAT.
AND THAT, THAT WAS IN THAT I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH ONE A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
YEAH, I, ON THURSDAY, THE PATENT THIS PAST THURSDAY, UM, I'M CHAIR ALONG WITH A TOWN COUNCILMAN GARY GILLESPIE, AND WE HAD OUR THIRD OR FOURTH DRUG PREVENTION COMMITTEE MEETING.
UM, IT IS IT, WE HAVE, UM, DECIDED ON OUR MISSION STATEMENT, WHICH IS TO IMPACT, UM, DRUG PREVENTION IN WARREN COUNTY.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING SELF-EDUCATED BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY PRONGS TO THIS ISSUE, UM, THAT WE HAVE TO EDUCATE OURSELVES BEFORE WE CAN SERVE THE COMMUNITY IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.
UH, BUT THE COMMITTEE HAS, UM, IS GROWING AND WE HAVE, UH, DEVELOPED COMMITTEES AND I WILL LIST THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES MAYBE SOMEWHERE WHERE, UH, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON A SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, YOU CAN CONTACT MYSELF OR ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE.
UM, THE DRUGS ISSUE, THE DRUG ISSUE IS SO PERVASIVE IN WARREN COUNTY AND WE HAVE TO, TO DO SOMETHING AND WE'D LIKE TO START WITH, UM, THE YOUNG PEOPLE AND MAYBE PREVENT A POINT OF ENTRY, WHICH IS WHERE WE CAN, WE FEEL WE CAN IMPACT, UM, THE MOST.
UM, I ALSO, UH, ATTEMPTED TO ATTEND THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION MEETING ON THE FLY OVER, WHICH IS, UM, ALSO IN MY DISTRICT.
AND SO, UH, UNFORTUNATELY THE TECHNOLOGY WASN'T WORKING THAT DAY, WE SWITCHED PLATFORMS AND, UM, I DIDN'T HAVE PERMISSION TO GET IN, BUT DR.
DALEY ATTENDED ON MY BEHALF AND REPORTED TO ME AFTERWARDS.
UM, THE TOURISM COMMITTEE, UH, JUST TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW IT HASN'T GONE AWAY.
TOURISM WAS VERY MUCH ALIVE AND WELL, I'M SURE YOU WERE IMPACTED IN OCTOBER IN SOME WAY BY FOLKS COMING TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE TOWN TO GET A MUTUAL AGREEMENT SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A DESTINATION MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATION THAT WAS SELECTED EARLY IN, I GUESS IT WAS SEPTEMBER.
WE, WE CHOSE AN ORGANIZATION TO HELP US MOVE THE TOURISM INDUSTRY FORWARD.
UM, WARREN COUNTY IT'S NUMBER ONE INDUSTRY IS TOURISM.
UH, FOLKS COME HERE, THEY COME HERE TO VISIT OUR BEAUTIFUL AREA.
THEY SPEND THEIR DOLLARS AND THEY GO HOME AND, UM, IT'S, WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD SCHOOLS FOR THEM.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WATER, LOTS OF OTHER ISSUES LIKE THAT.
AND SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD WORK DILIGENTLY TO MAXIMIZE OUR ABILITY TO ATTRACT THOSE FOLKS.
AND, UM, SO THE TOURISM COMMITTEE IS WORKING HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS.
AND THEN FINALLY, I JUST LIKE TO WISH EVERYONE A MERRY CHRISTMAS, UH, HOWEVER YOU CHOOSE TO, TO CELEBRATE IT IN THIS VERY STRANGE
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COVID YEAR.UM, I HOPE THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO SPEND TIME WITH YOUR FAMILY BECAUSE IN THE END, THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS.
MY REPORT'S VERY, VERY SIMPLE.
I MEAN, I DID SOME OF THE SAME THINGS THAT EVERYBODY ELSE DID AND WE CAN GO INTO THAT, BUT, UM, I WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE JUST TO WISH EVERYONE, UH, EVERYONE AND THEIR FAMILIES IN WARREN COUNTY, A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND WISH IT AND WISH THIS YEAR TO BE GREAT COMING UP AND GOING INTO THE FUTURE WITH US.
THIS IS, THIS HAS BEEN A CHALLENGING YEAR FOR ALL OF US.
AND THE CHALLENGE HAS BEEN ON EVERY LEVEL, UH, EMOTIONAL FINANCIAL, AND WITH THE RESPECT OF THE COVID, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO TAKE US.
WE GOTTA BE, UM, A PART OF IT.
UM, BEING PART OF THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GROUP THAT MEETS EVERY THURSDAY OR EVERY OTHER THURSDAY RIGHT NOW, UH, IS A UNIQUE EXPERIENCE BECAUSE WE'RE HEARING THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING AND WHAT THINGS ARE COMING.
AND, UM, THE FIRST PART OF IT WAS REALLY TOUGH BECAUSE WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT WE DID NOT KNOW.
NOW WE'RE BEGINNING TO UNDERSTAND IT.
UM, THIS, THIS TIME OF YEAR IS A, IS A TIME FOR JOY.
UM, AND WE NEED TO RESPECT THAT AND WE NEED TO BE A PART OF IT.
AND WE NEED TO BELIEVE THAT WHAT'S COMING IS GOING TO BE BETTER FOR ALL OF US.
SO MY WISH TO YOU IS A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A GREAT NEW YEAR AND A GREAT COMING YEAR IN MANY YEARS TO COME, UH, W WE'VE GOT A LOT TO GET THROUGH AND WE WILL DO IT TOGETHER.
I'M SO PROUD OF EVERYBODY AND THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE THE CHARITIES, THE, THE CHURCHES, THE S THE, UM, UH, GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO TRY TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR EVERYONE.
UM, THE AMOUNT OF FOOD THAT WE'VE GIVEN OUT HAS BEEN AMAZING, THE CONSTANT COMMUNICATION ABOUT HOMELESSNESS.
UM, WE'RE DOING A GREAT JOB TOGETHER AND, UH, JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE IT FROM EVERY ONE OF YOU.
SO MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS, UM, DR.
UM, FIRST I'D LIKE TO CALL ON MIKE TO INTRODUCE MIKE.
MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN BOARD MEMBERS.
UM, JUST LIKE TO INTRODUCE MICHAEL
HE IS OUR NEW SANITARY DISTRICT MANAGER, AND, UM, HE BRINGS A LOT OF INVALUABLE EXPERIENCE TO THE COUNTY.
UM, HE HAS, UH, 18 YEARS WITH THE DATA'S OUT IN OPERATIONS MANAGEMENT AND FALL HERE IN RAPPAHANNOCK COUNTY, AND, AND MORE RECENTLY ADDITIONAL EXPERIENCE IN TRANSPORTATION, OPERATIONS AND UTILITY RELOCATIONS, AND OTHER PROJECT MANAGEMENT IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
SO LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH MIKE, HE SAID THE GROUND RUNNING, THIS IS ONLY A SECOND DAY, BUT I'M ALREADY MET WITH STAFF AND, UM, BEEN OUT AND EVALUATED A LOT OF THE AREAS AND PLANNING INTO HIT THE FARMS LATER THIS WEEK.
AND, UM, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HIM.
I THINK HE'LL BE A GREAT ASSET TO US.
I DON'T KNOW IF MIKE HAS ANYTHING OR YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS IS EVERYTHING SOLVED FOR WORKING ON IT.
IT IS THE END OF THE YEAR, AND WE HAVE DISCOVERED THAT THERE WAS, UM, AN ILLEGAL BUILDING PERMIT ISSUED IN THIS BUILDING DOWN THE HALL.
THERE IS A GINGERBREAD HOUSE AND HOW THE FIRE MARSHALL COULD APPROVE SUCH A THING.
WE DO NOT UNDERSTAND, AND WE'RE WORKING TO GET THIS STRAIGHTENED OUT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
I DON'T WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS TO NOTICE THAT AND MAKE SURE YOU STOP BY AND SEE THE FIREPLACE OUT HERE.
THE RIVERMONT, UH, FIRE STATION IS LIKE 98.99%.
FIREFIGHTERS ARE USING THE STATION.
NOW DURING THE DAY, WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE FURNITURE COMING IN, AND THEN THEY'LL, WE'LL BE THERE IN THE EVENINGS AT 24 HOURS.
UM, I WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE UPDATE THAT YOU HAVE
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ON OUR CARES ACT EXPENDITURES.AND YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH THAT, UM, YOU CAN CHECK WITH MR. LIEUTENANT FARREL WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE THERE, UM, WOULD NOTE THAT YOU HAVE WITH YOU THE THREE YEARS SUMMARY OF THE REVENUES AND THE EXPENDITURES FOR THE THREE YEARS.
AND YOU CAN SEE HOW WE COMPARE OVER THAT TIME PERIOD.
AND FINALLY WOULD NOTE IN THE WRITTEN REPORT THERE, IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE FOUR, THE MOMENTUM IS BUILDING THIS.
LOGAN HAS REPORTED UP THERE THAT CHIPOTLE TWO PLANS TO OPEN ON MONDAY, DECEMBER 14 AND FIVE GUYS IS SCHEDULED TO OPEN MONDAY, DECEMBER 21.
AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
I HAD A QUESTION ON THE JULY, NOVEMBER REVENUE COMPARISON.
UM, IT'S UP FAIRLY SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THE PREVIOUS TWO YEARS, BUT THERE AGAIN, THAT'S ONLY JULY THROUGH NOVEMBER IS THAT PEOPLE WERE PAYING EARLIER, BECAUSE I GUESS WE'LL GET ANOTHER UPDATE ON THIS MAYBE NOVEMBER.
CAUSE I GUESS WHAT WAS THE DEADLINE FOR PAYING TAXES DECEMBER 5TH? YES, I GUESS MIGHT'VE BEEN YESTERDAY, BUT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN YESTERDAY BECAUSE OF THE, UH, HOLIDAY.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT AGAIN, IT'D BE NEAT.
I MEAN, YEAH, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE AHEAD.
I WOULD KIND OF DOUBT IT, BUT THERE AGAIN, MAYBE PEOPLE WERE JUST PAYING EARLIER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO I GUESS THE DECEMBER COMPARISON WILL GIVE US A GOOD PICTURE.
I KNOW THE LODGING WAS UP FROM THAT LAST HANDOUT YOU'D GIVEN US TOO.
AND I THINK THAT WAS DUE TO, UH, UH, THE MARRIOTT OUT THERE, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
THANKS AS A, UP TO THAT, UH, MR. MCCULLOUGH LIBERTY BACK IN THE BACK HERE, AND HE IS WORKING WITH OUR SOFTWARE COMPANY THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS REPORT IN THE FUTURE IS HOPEFULLY STARTING IN WITH THE DECEMBER REPORT THAT YOU'LL GET NEXT MONTH, THAT WILL SHOW THE PERCENTAGES HERE AND THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW.
THIS DOESN'T SHOW THE BUDGET FOR EACH YEAR BECAUSE THIS IS JUST MY HANDMADE REPORT, BUT WE'LL BE ADDING THE BUDGET IN THERE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.
UM, MR. JORDAN, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING FOR US? ANYTHING TO REPORT? ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU, MR. HAM DID NOT HEAR YOU MR. HAM ON THIS PHONE CALL AS WELL.
DOES MR. HAM HAVE ANYTHING OR EMILY? I WOULD LOVE TO BE THERE TODAY, BUT I'M SICK AND I'M ONE OF OUR FIRM'S ATTORNEYS HAS A WIFE.
WHO'S GOT COVID SO THAT'S THAT? I'M NOT THERE THEN TESTED, BUT NO RESULT YET.
AND GINGER BREAD HAD TO CLOSE DOWN.
[H. Additional Appropriations and Transfers]
APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS.DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THAT? I'LL MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THEM AS PRESENTED HERE.
WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND AT ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.
MRS. SHIRAKI MR. CARTER, MISS OATS, MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. FOX, RIGHT NEXT
[I. Approval of Accounts]
ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE ACCOUNTS.DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THOSE MOVE TO ACCEPT AS PRESENTED? WE HAVE A SECOND ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.
YEAH, THIS IS, UH, THESE ARE USUALLY DONE ON THE SECOND MEETING OF THE MONTH, WHICH TURNS OUT TO BE THE THIRD TUESDAY.
UM, AND SO WE'RE KIND OF DOING IT EARLY SINCE WE'RE NOT GOING TO MEET ANY MORE THIS MONTH.
UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, IS THERE ANY PROVISION IF BILLS WERE SUBMITTED AFTER SOME DATA DIDN'T GET ON HERE, THAT WE'RE STILL ABLE TO PAY THE VENDORS IN A TIMELY FASHION AND DON'T GET HIT WITH ANY LATE FEES OR ILL ILL FEELINGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IF THEY ARE, DEPENDING UPON THE DUE DATES, WE, WE DO SOME PAYMENT PAYMENTS ON FRIDAYS
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AND YOU GET THAT SUPPLEMENT TO THE PAYMENT SCHEDULE NEXT MONTH.SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IF THERE'S ONES THAT COME IN AFTERWARDS, WE JUST GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THEM AFTER THE FACT, IF, IF THE DATE REQUIRES IT.
UM, MR. SCHROCK YOU COULD GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, MS. OATS, MR. CARTER, NEXT
[J. Consent Agenda]
ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE, IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE PULLED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOW I LIKE TO PULL ONE INTO, PLEASE.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH PULLING ONE OR TWO? COOL.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS AMENDED WITH ITEMS? NUMBER ONE, AND TO PULL AN ITEM NUMBER EIGHT OH FOUR QUESTION.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MAYBE WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE.
MR. CARTER, MS. OATS, MR. CHAIRMAN, MS. COLORS BY MR. FOX MOTION CARRIES, UM, ITEM NUMBER
[J8. Pump and Haul Permit Request - Matt Wendling]
EIGHT, THE PUMPING HALL REQUEST QUESTION, PLEASE.I READ THROUGH, UM, WHAT WAS IN THE PACKET AND I MEANT TO CALL YESTERDAY AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT I LOST TRACK OF TIME.
AND WHEN I REALIZED WHAT TIME IT WAS, EVERYONE WAS GONE.
AND MY QUESTION IS FROM READING THROUGH HERE, I SEE, UH, FOR CONVENTIONAL SYSTEM, HE WAS DENIED, BUT I DIDN'T SEE, UM, IS A PUMPING HALL GOING TO BE OKAY WITH, UM, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT OR IS THIS THE FIRST STEP FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO EVEN TALK TO HIM ABOUT THIS? I ACTUALLY THINK THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SENT HIM TO US.
UM, SO THEY TYPICALLY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THEY GO THROUGH THEM FIRST AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS KIND OF THE FINAL STEP OF APPROVAL.
UM, AND THEN THEY GO AND THEN THEY GO BACK FOR THE FINAL APPROVAL WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
BUT, UM, MATT'S BEEN HANDLING THIS, BUT, UM, I'LL MAKE, I MEAN, WE WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENTS IF THEY'RE NOT.
UM, BUT, BUT, BUT IT'S OUR PUMP AND HAUL POLICY, THE COUNTIES.
SO WE KIND OF APPROVED TOGETHER, BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, WELL WE'LL WORK WITH JIM AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S FINE.
UM, WE DID, EVEN THOUGH THEY DID SEND IT TO US, WE THEN TURNED AROUND AND SENT THE REQUEST BACK TO THEM SO THAT THEY COULD SEE THAT WE GOT IT.
UM, BUT, AND SO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THIS AND THEN THEM HEAL, THEN THEY'LL GO TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO GET THE ACTUAL PERMIT.
AND THEN WE HAVE, WE HA WE GET A COPY OF THE CONTRACT WITH THE ACTUAL, UM, THE PUMP AND HAUL, OR, YOU KNOW, WE HOLD THAT HERE.
SO, UM, AND THEN WE KEEP A, UH, A SPREADSHEET OF ALL THE ONES THAT WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY, SINCE IT IS OUR POLICY.
AND THEN WE, THEY ACTUALLY SUBMIT TO US, UM, THAT THEY ARE PUMPING IT OUT ADEQUATELY.
UM, SO THEY IT'S REALLY A JOINT KIND OF EFFORT WITH HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THE COUNTY.
AND USUALLY IT'S, IF, IF THERE IS A CASE OF A, OF A HARDSHIP, YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO BE OKAY.
SO YOU WERE, UM, GETTING INFORMATION FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT OR ARE THEY MONITORING THIS AND KEEPING AN EYE ON IT LATER? REALLY? THEY DO.
UM, AND THEN WE GET THE DOCUMENTATION AS WELL, ACTUALLY IN OUR OFFICE, UM, THAT IS BEING THAT, THAT IT'S BEING SERVICED ADEQUATELY.
SO IT'S KIND OF A TWO-PART, UM, W MATT, ACTUALLY, WE HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE ONES THAT WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS APPROVED.
UM, AND SO WE GET THE DOCUMENTATION AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AS WELL.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY BEING MONITORED, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN A TYPICAL, ANY OTHER TYPICAL SYSTEM.
SO THAT NOMINATES DANGER TO THE NEIGHBORING
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NEIGHBORS.MS. CHAN, ANYONE ELSE HAVE A QUESTION WHERE YOU SAID IT'S A POD? YES.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, BUMPING HALL, UM, PERMIT.
DO WE DO THAT SEPARATE OR I MAKE THAT MOTION THEN SECOND, SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ROLL CALL PLEASE.
ALRIGHT, MS. OATS, MR. CARTER, NO DISCUSSION ON, UM, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ONE AND TWO, OR DO YOU WANT TO, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO WITH THOSE? UH, I WANT
[J1. Approval of 2021 Board Meeting Schedule - Ed Daley]
TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT ON NUMBER ONE.AND THEN WE'LL SEE ABOUT THE NUMBER TWO IS PRETTY SIMPLE TOO, BUT NUMBER ONE, AND I KINDA, I GUESS MISS LOOKED AT THIS, I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THE ACTUAL SCHEDULE FOR THE BOARD MEETING FOR 2021.
HOWEVER, I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, JUST PUT IT OUT THERE TOO, FOR THE CITIZENS THAT WATCH.
UM, WE, PART OF THE SCHEDULE IS THE BUDGET WORK, UH, THE BUDGET WORK SESSIONS, WHICH I BELIEVE WE APPROVED THAT PREVIOUSLY.
UH, AND I ASSUME AT HER, I KNOW OUR SCHEDULE ON THE WEBSITE FOR THE BOARD MEETINGS.
DO WE ALSO, DO WE ALSO POST THE BUDGET WORK SESSIONS AS WELL? UH, YES.
SO THE SCHEDULE FOR THE BUDGET WORK SESSIONS IS POSTED ON THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, WEBPAGE AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WEBPAGE.
AND ONCE THIS WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD TODAY, I WAS GOING TO PUT ALL OF THE 20, 21 MEETINGS ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL.
AND I KNOW I, THAT I LOOK AT THE WEBSITE PERIODICALLY, BUT I KNOW SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE ANY WEBSITE WHEN YOU'RE NOT USED TO IT.
IT'S DIFFICULT TO FIND THINGS, BUT I GUESS THAT'S WHERE THEY HAD THE SEARCH BUTTON TO LOOK IT UP.
BUT NO, I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, WE HOPEFULLY WILL ADOPT THE BUDGET NO LATER THAN MAY.
AND I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM BUILT IN THE, UH, UH, SCHEDULE TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL TIME, BUT JUST WANTING TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, DON'T WAIT FOR THAT PUBLIC HEARING FOR US TO ADOPT THE BUDGET.
I THINK, UH, STAFF PROBABLY ALREADY STARTED IN NOVEMBER OUTSIDE AGENCIES.
SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE A FOUR OR FIVE MONTH PROCESS AND IT'S AN ONGOING THING.
SO JUST FOR PEOPLE TO, UH, BE AWARE, AND I GUESS THIS YEAR TOO, PROBABLY WE WILL BE TAPING IN SOME FASHION, THOSE SESSIONS LIKE WE DO NOW AND PUT THEM ON YOUTUBE OR LIKE A WORK SESSION.
WE TAPE OUR WORK SESSIONS NOW FOR THE MOST PART, RIGHT WHEN THEY'RE OUT HERE.
SO WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER THAT TOO.
UM, AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT PUT IN BY, UH, STAFF AND BY THE BOARD, UH, TO TRY TO COME UP WITH THE BEST BUDGET THAT'S GOING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR CITIZENS.
UM, HAVING SAID THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT DIRECTION STAFF HAS HAD.
I KNOW IN YEARS PAST, UH, THE BOARD EITHER COLLECTIVELY OR INDIVIDUALLY HAVE EXPRESSED WHAT THEIR DESIRE WAS AS FAR AS MAYBE NOT HAVING ANY TAX INCREASE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN ANY DIRECTION GIVEN AS FAR AS LOOKING AT A ZERO-BASED BUDGET.
UM, I HAVE, THE STAFF HAS NEVER MET A BOARD THAT WANTED TO RAISE TAXES.
WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE AT THIS POINT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE RAISING TAXES.
WE ARE NOT USING A, A ZERO BASE BUDGET.
UM, UH, PLAYED WITH THEM, TAUGHT ABOUT THEM LONG ENOUGH THAT I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT.
I'M GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO USE A LINE ITEM AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO JUSTIFY ANY INCREASES THAT THEY PUT IN THERE.
UM, THIS GIVES THE STAFF A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY WHEN THEY DEVELOP THEIR BUDGET.
I ALSO TOLD THEM NOT TO GO HOG WILD.
SO WE'LL SEE WHAT WE BRING BACK.
OUR INTENTION IS THAT AFTER A DECEMBER 31, AND WE HAVE THE DIS SIX MONTH, UM, MR. MICK LIBERTY, AND I WILL BE SITTING DOWN WITH THE, UH, TREASURER AND THE COMMISSIONER TO DRAFT A REVENUE SIDE OF THE BUDGET FOR YOU TO LOOK AT.
AND THEN WE'LL USE THAT AS THE PARAMETER FOR LOOKING AT WHAT GOES INTO THE EXPENDITURES.
CAUSE I KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS IS BOARDS APPROVED.
I GUESS THE, I THINK IT WAS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR DISPATCH PEOPLE.
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POSITION UP AT A COMPANY NINE CHESTER GAP.AND I THINK WE ALSO APPROVED IN IMPLEMENTING THE SECOND PHASE.
I THINK IT WAS THE SECOND PHASE OF THE STUDY, THE PAY, THE PAY STUDY.
SO I MEAN, THOSE THINGS WE ALREADY HAVE, I KNOW THE REVENUES WERE PRETTY GOOD RIGHT NOW, BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND I APPRECIATE WE'LL HAVE A BETTER FEEL FOR THAT AT THE END OF DECEMBER.
UH, I'M NOT GOING TO GO QUITE AS FAR AS SAYING, I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT HER A TAX INCREASE, BUT I'M GOING TO BE HARD PRESSED TO SUPPORT A TAX INCREASE.
AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE REST OF THE BOARD FEELS.
IF THEY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS THEY WANT TO EXPRESS AT THIS POINT, WHICH COULD POSSIBLY GIVE STAFF A BETTER IDEA OF, UH, WHAT THIS BOARD IS LOOKING FOR FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, BUT I'M NOT LOOKING TO INCREASE TAXES IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, BUT GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE'VE, WE'VE GOT TO GET SOME OF THE SYSTEMS IN, INTO THE 21ST CENTURY, UH, WE'VE GOT AN OLDER COMPUTER SYSTEMS THAT WE'VE GOT, UH, PROBLEMS IN THE COMMUNICATION SIDE.
UM, WE'VE GOT ISSUES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
I DON'T ANTICIPATE INCREASING TAXES, BUT THE REALITY IS THE REALITY.
AND I THINK WITH THE COMPUTER SYSTEM, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE FOR FINANCE AND I THINK, UH, IN YEARS PAST WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO TOO, WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD LONG-TERM STRATEGY, AS OPPOSED TO PAYING FOR IT ALL IN ONE YEAR, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUT MONEY ASIDE EACH YEAR.
SO WHEN IT CAUGHT TIME CAME, UH, WE HAD THE MONEY READY TO GO FORWARD.
AND I'M NOT SURE WAS IT TWO YEARS AGO? MAYBE WE DID REASSESSMENT I BELIEVE TWO YEARS AGO.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING UP TO, I GUESS WE'LL BE STARTING THAT NEXT YEAR, THE THIRD YEAR WE'VE BEEN DOING IT EVERY FOUR YEARS.
AND AGAIN, THE COST OF THAT HAS BEEN ROUGHLY 400,000.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING, I GUESS THE MONEY IS IN SPECIAL FUNDS AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUT ASIDE EACH YEAR ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
SO THEY THEY'RE GETTING AS A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT OR YEAH.
SO IT'S NOT AN ONGOING EXPENSE.
SO THERE AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO.
SO, SO THERE'S LIKE I SAID, THE REASSESSMENTS COMING UP, PROBABLY THE BEGINNING OF IT NEXT YEAR AND THEN PROBABLY A YEAR AFTER WE'LL LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT THAT WOULD BE.
BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO THROW THOSE THINGS OUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER THINGS.
I DON'T WANT TO RAISE TAXES UNLESS IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
I DON'T LIKE NOT THE DAILY SAID, I THINK THAT'S A NO BRAINER THAT, UM, NOBODY WANTS TO RAISE TAXES IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CORE SERVICES ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH AND STILL HAVE MORE THAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH CORE SERVICES, BEING FIRE RESCUE, UM, SOCIAL SERVICES, UM, AND SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SO FORTH.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES.
WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM WITHIN REASON, UM, WHAT THEY NEED HAVING SAID THAT I DO WANT TO SEE OUTCOME FOR WHAT I'M PUTTING IN.
SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO COME TO ME FOR MORE PERSONNEL AND THAT KIND OF THING, YOU BETTER GIVE ME SOME NUMBERS TO BACK IT UP JUST TO TELL YOU BECAUSE, UM, I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR JOB EFFICIENTLY, SAFELY AND WITH THE BEST EQUIPMENT.
BUT AS, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, I'VE BEEN DUBBED THE TIGHTWAD.
SO I WANT TO GET MY DOLLARS WORTH FOLKS FOR THE TAXPAYERS.
SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION, IF YOU WILL, THE COUNTY RESERVES OR THE COUNTY RESERVE IS WORDS, WE'LL USUALLY HAVE A MARKET WE'D LIKE TO HOLD THE COUNTY RESERVE AT A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
ARE WE THERE? ARE WE HOLDING THAT RESERVE AS, AS PRESENTED THE ODD, I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER FOR YOU.
THE AUDITOR TELLS US THAT THE NUMBERS, THE RESERVES ARE GOOD, THEY'RE SOLID, BUT HE DOESN'T, HASN'T GIVEN US BACK THE PRELIMINARY AUDIT TO REFLECT THAT YET.
THERE'LL BE SOME TRANSFERS THAT GO BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR, THE SAME AS THERE ARE BETWEEN 19 AND 18, THAT WILL CHANGE A LITTLE BIT OF THESE REVENUES AND WE WANT TO SEE THAT AND SEE THE RESERVES THEMSELVES.
WE WON'T HAVE THAT AUDIT PROBABLY UNTIL 1ST OF JULY, I GUESS IT GIVES US A PRELIMINARY ONE BEFORE THEN.
YEAH, WE SHOULD HAVE A PRELIMINARY, UH, EARLY SPRING, SIR.
AND THEN AS FAR AS WHAT MR. FOX IS TALKING ABOUT, UH, WE HAVE UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE AND WE HAVE RESTRICTED FUND BALANCE.
AND THE UNRESTRICTED, WHAT THE PREVIOUS BOARD DID PROBABLY ABOUT 15, 16 YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE GOING TO GET FUNDING FOR THE NEW SKYLINE SCHOOL AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WE ADOPTED A, UH, FISCAL POLICY THAT SAID THAT WE
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WOULD TRY, OR WE WOULD HAVE AT LEAST A 15%, UH, FUND BALANCE FOR, UH, UH, 15% OF THE BUDGET SET ASIDE IN FUND BALANCE.AND THE REASON BEING FOR THAT IS IT HELPS OUR BOND RATING.
I THINK WE HAD A DOUBLE, A BOND RATING.
IT INCREASED IT WHERE'D THAT EQUATES TO IS THAT WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND BORROW AGAIN, PRETTY LARGE EXPENDITURES.
IT COULD ADD, YOU KNOW, IT COULD, IT COULD BE A QUARTER POINT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO I DON'T FORESEE ANY LARGE EXPENDITURES COMING UP FOR SCHOOL OR FIRE DEPARTMENT, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I STILL WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT WE GO BELOW THAT 15% AND IT'S BEEN CLOSE BEFORE.
SO, BUT THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE THAT IS.
I BELIEVE MR. CARTER, THAT IT WAS BELOW 15% IN LAST YEAR'S AUDIT.
UM, SO MY QUESTION, I GUESS, FOR THE FINANCIAL FOLKS, IS, IS THERE A WAY TO MEASURE, UH, HEALTH IN ADVANCE OF AN AUDIT? HOW DOES ONE MEASURE FINANCIAL HEALTH IN, UH, IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE, UH, IN AN INTERIM WAY ALONG THE WAY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I, I'D RATHER NOT WAIT FOR AN AUDIT TO FIND OUT THAT WE'RE NOT MEETING OUR NUMBERS ARE NOT, NOT CLOSE TO OUR NUMBERS.
I KNOW MR. DALEY, YOU'VE BEEN GIVING US THIS REPORT, WHICH I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH THE YEAR OVER YEAR REPORTING.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD ADD IS THAT THE BIGGEST IMPACT TO OUR FINANCIAL HEALTH IS THIS EXPENDITURE, UH, WHICH IS NOW AT $2.9 MILLION FOR A CIVIL SUIT WITH, UH, WITH LAWYERS THAT ARE TOTALING 102 19 TO $135,000 A MONTH.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A PLACE WHERE I THINK THAT WE COULD, UH, LOOK AT IN TERMS OF CUTTING EXPENDITURES, THAT'S THE FIRST PLACE I WOULD START.
UM, IT, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO RECEIVE, UH, THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR $3 MILLION IN EXPENDITURES AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST PLACE WE SHOULD LOOK.
MA'AM ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM ANYONE? I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE BOARD, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO RELAY THESE, UH, PERCEPTIONS, YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THE BUDGET TO YOUR PARTNER AGENCIES ALSO, UH, NOT ONLY DO WE NEED TO KEEP OUR STAFF IN POSITION, OUR DEPARTMENTS IN THAT IN LINE, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO BE EXPECT THE SAME FROM OUR PARTNER AGENCIES.
NOW WE THINK THAT WOULD BE PART OF STAFF TO RELAY THAT I E YOU FROM THAT STANDPOINT AND LET THEM KNOW.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST TO SAY, LOOK, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY INCREASE IN WHAT YOUR BUDGET IS GOING TO BE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WENT OUT WHEN YOU DID IT OR NOT, WHEN YOU SENT THOSE THINGS OUT.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S LIKE, UM, AT THIS POINT I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN HOLD THE LINE ON WHAT WE GIVE TO THESE OUTSIDE AGENCIES, PARTNERING AGENCIES, THE WHOLE THING WITHOUT ANY INCREASE.
AND I THINK, AND THAT'S WHERE WE HAD TO DO BEFORE.
AND WE DON'T TAKE ON ANY OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES WITH ANY OTHER OUTSIDE AGENCIES.
CAUSE WE HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME FUNDING, THE ONES WE HAVE CURRENTLY.
SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
SO YEAH, IF YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND RELAY THAT TO THE OUTSIDE AGENCIES, I'D APPRECIATE THAT WE WILL CONTINUE.
WE HAVE DONE THAT AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
BUT MY POINT WAS THAT WHEN THEY COME TO YOU INDIVIDUALLY AND SAY, WE REALLY NEED MORE MONEY FOR THIS IS TO REMIND THEM TO REINFORCE WHAT WE'VE ALREADY TOLD THEM.
I THINK OUR BIGGEST CONCERN IS GOING TO BE THE STATE CONTRIBUTIONS TO, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THE FISCAL HEALTH OF WARREN COUNTY SEEMS TO BE, UM, ACTUALLY IN A GOOD PLACE, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE STATE LEVEL ISSUES ARE.
SO I THINK THAT THE STATE IMPACT ON THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS TO SALARIES THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND THOSE THINGS ARE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE GREATEST IMPACT MOVING FORWARD.
AND WE SHOULD PROBABLY BE MINDFUL OF THOSE AREAS.
WE ALSO SHOULD LOOK AT, UH, ANY ADDITIONAL HIRES THAT WE HAPPEN TO HAVE.
IF WE FIND THE PHONES THAT WE CAN DO IT NOW, OR DO IT OVER THE NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AFTER THAT.
WE ALWAYS GOTTA BE LOOKING THREE TO FIVE YEARS TO 10 YEARS AHEAD JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME BOAT.
AND IF WE HIRE THREE PEOPLE AND BECAUSE OF A GRANT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO KEEP THOSE PEOPLE EMPLOYED THREE YEARS.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO ADOPT THE ABOVE MEETING SCHEDULED FOR 2021.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ROLL CALL PLEASE.
HI, MR. CHAIRMAN, MS. COLORS, MR. CLOCKS DISCUSSION
[J2. Shannon Woods Sanitary District Advisory Committee Bylaws - Mike Berry]
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DISTRICT.THIS WILL BE MUCH QUICKER THAN THE PREVIOUS ITEM.
I PROMISE THE ONLY THING I SAW IN THE BYLAWS AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT BECAUSE I THOUGHT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
I THINK THIS BOARD HAD TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT ANY BOARD REAPPOINT TOO, WE OUGHT TO HAVE SOME PROVISION IN THERE.
UM, AS FAR AS REMOVAL AND I DON'T SEE THAT IN HERE AT THIS POINT, I KNOW WE'VE DONE IT WITH OTHERS.
I KNOW WITH SOME OF THEM, THEY SAY, IF YOU MISS THREE MEETINGS, YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY GONE, BUT I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME PROVISION IN THE BYLAWS THAT STATES, UH, WE COULD REMOVE, UH, THAT THE WILL AND PLEASURE OF THIS BOARD.
THERE'S A, AN UNDER ITEM, FIVE DOT FOUR THERE'S ANY DIRECTOR WHO HAS THREE UNEXCUSED ABSENCES IN A CALENDAR YEAR SHALL BE REMOVED.
SO THERE IS A PROVISION FOR REMOVAL, BUT IT'S ONLY IN THE CASE OF UNEXCUSED ABSENCES.
I THINK THAT SHOULD BE EXPANDED FOR ANY REASON.
AND AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE OTHER BOARDS WE APPOINT TO HAVE THAT SAME PROVISION IN THERE WHERE WE'RE A STATE LAW ALLOWS.
THAT'S NO PROBLEM GOING, CAN ADD THAT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD THAT YOU WANT TO ADD OR MAKE THAT 5.5? COULD WE JUST ADD AN IT LIKE MR. CARTER SAID, JUST EXPAND ON NUMBER 5.4, JUST TO MAKE IT 5.45 EITHER WAY.
UM, AND I NOTICED, UM, EMILY AND I HAD TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THE DATE.
THE DATE SHOULD BE DECEMBER 30, ONE, 2022, I THINK.
UM, FOR THE INITIAL TERM WAS THAT I LIKED, WE HAD, UM, INITIAL TERM AND THEN ON TO TWO, I DIDN'T CATCH IT.
IT SAYS JUNE 30TH, 20, 21 SHORT TERM.
SO I THINK THE IDEA WAS TO STAGGER SOME OF THE TERMS INITIALLY.
SO SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE ENDING SOONER THAN TWO YEAR TERM.
WELL, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE THE JUNE 30TH, 2021.
IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY CLOSE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE BOARD PROBABLY TO MEET UNTIL MID JANUARY.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE EASIER JUST TO, WITH COVID AND THEN SINCE WE'RE AMENDING, I THINK IT MIGHT BE GOOD WITH THE CURRENT PANDEMIC TO ADD, UH, JUST, UH, AT LARGE MEMBER, UM, WITH ONLY THREE MEMBERS.
I MEAN, THREE MEMBERS IS TYPICALLY GOOD, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL, JUST THAT LARGE MEMBER SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN A CORE.
UM, IF ANYTHING HAPPENS JUST LOOKING AT IT SINCE WE'RE DOING AN AMENDMENT, MAYBE ADD ONE MORE AND SECTION TWO, ONE, JUST MAKE THAT FOUR.
I THINK I ORDERED GREECE KIND OF BLOCKED IT, BUT YOU WANT TO ADD ANOTHER MEMBER? MAKE IT FOUR? I THINK SO.
JUST, JUST WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON, I'VE, I'VE NOTICED WE'VE HAD A LOT OF THE OTHER MEMBERS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND MEETINGS, UM, AND IT'S HARD TO MAINTAIN A QUORUM.
SO WHILE YOU GUYS WILL BE SITTING DOWN TO REVIEW THOSE APPLICATIONS, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE JUST AN AT-LARGE MEMBER.
UM, AMONGST THAT BOARD, IN CASE THERE WOULD BE ANY PROBLEMS OR ANYONE WOULD BAIL OUT AND THE INITIAL TERM, UM, DUE TO ANYTHING REALLY, I DON'T THINK HE'D EVEN NUMBER WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.
I THINK WHAT WE COULD DO, MAYBE MAKE, ADD, ADD AN ALTERNATE.
AND THEN IF SOMEBODY THAT CAN'T MAKE IT, THE ALTERNATE CAN SHOW UP.
AND FOR THAT MATTER, THE ALTERNATE CAN SHOW UP AT ALL THE MEETINGS.
ANYWAY, IF THEY SO DESIRE, THEY JUST WOULDN'T HAVE A VOTING.
AS LONG AS THE ORIGINAL THREE WERE THERE.
WELL, WE HAVE THREE, I MEAN, WE STARTED WITH FIVE AT LAKE FRONT ROYAL, SO I MEAN, WE'VE HAD THREE, WE'VE HAD FIVE.
UM, SO THAT WAS A LOT SMALLER SUBDIVISION TOO.
UM, I'VE JUST NOTICED THE RAPID DECLINE AND MEMBERS AND UM, IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF, UH, PEOPLE FALL OFF, UM, LIKE ON LAKE FRONT ROYAL OR MOVE OUT.
SO IN 2.1, WE WOULD ADD A PROVISION FOR AN ALTERNATE.
I THINK THAT'D BE THE BEST WAY TO GO.
PERSONALLY, AND THESE TERMS EXPIRE JUNE 30, 2021, BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO STAGGER THESE IN SOME FASHION TOO.
YOU DON'T WANT ALL THE TERMS TO END ON THE SAME DATE? I WOULDN'T THINK BECAUSE AGAIN, I THINK YOU WOULD ONCE, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS TO CONTINUE IF FOR NO OTHER REASON TO HAVE SOME INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD STAGGER IT.
I KNOW MS. THE INITIAL TERM, I TYPICALLY
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WE'VE DONE THE INITIAL TERM FOR TWO YEARS.UM
UM, I THINK THAT THE TWO YEAR TERM OF WORK, UM, BUT I I'D LIKE TO SEE AN ALTERNATE, IF YOU WANT TO SAY THE TERMS, WE POINT TO THREE, WHENEVER THAT ONE OF THE TERMS ENDS JUNE 30TH, 2021, THEN THE OTHER ONES WOULD END JUNE 30, 20, 22.
I WOULD ALSO PUSH THAT OUT TO DECEMBER IF MR. BARRY HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THE SHORT.
SO JUST GO TO DECEMBER 31, 2021.
IT'LL CHANGE THE WHOLE DATE OF JUNE 30.
I MEAN, WE'RE RUNNING A LITTLE FURTHER BEHIND THAN ANTICIPATED WHEN WE STARTED THIS, BUT THAT WAY IT GIVES SOMEBODY A YEAR ON THERE.
AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO STAGGER THE TERMS IN SOME FASHION.
SO DECEMBER 31, 20 1821, I HAD A LOT OF TROUBLE HEARING ALL OF THAT AND I'M HAVING CONTINUAL TROUBLE HEARING ARCHIE AND, UM, OR MR. FOX AND MRS. COLOR.
SO IF YOU ALL COULD SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE, THAT'D BE GREAT.
I HEARD A LOT OF CHANGES TO THIS AND I COULDN'T HEAR MR. BARRY A LOT.
UM, IS IT, IT MIGHT BE MY SUGGESTION IF IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DONE TONIGHT THAT IT'D BE REVISED SO THAT OUR RECORDER'S CLEAR WHAT YOU'RE PASSING TONIGHT THIS MORNING.
I THINK MAKE THESE CHANGES FOR BRINGING IT BACK JANUARY 5TH.
DOES THAT AFFECT ANYTHING FROM, WELL, WE ARE CHOOSING THE PEOPLE TODAY IN CLOSED SESSION.
SO HOW DOES THAT IMPACT? AND YOU CAN STILL, I THINK, WELL, I'LL LET JASON ANSWER, BUT I THINK HE COULD STILL SELECT HOW MANY WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE, I GUESS, WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER OF CHARMS. I THINK WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH THIS, WITH THOSE CHANGES.
I UNDERSTAND MR. HAM HAS DIFFICULT TO HEARING, BUT WE HAVE A, UH, TOP AWAN, UH, DEPUTY CLERK WHO WAS TAKING GOOD NOTES AND SHE CAN, UH, UH, PASS THOSE ON.
AND I GUESS WE COULD RECAP TOO.
WE TALKED ABOUT ADDING AN ALTERNATE.
WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, CHANGING THE DATE TO DECEMBER 31, 2022 OR 2021 FOR THE FIRST TERM AND THEN KIND OF MAKE A STAGGERED FOR ONE HAS ONE COMES OFF IN 2021 AND THE OTHER ONES STAY ON UNTIL 20, 22 AND THE PROVISION THERE TO, TO, UH, ALLOW REMOVAL FOR ANY REASON.
SO MR. HAM, UH, BASICALLY I WAS JUST REITERATING, BUT YEAH, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
IS THERE A SECOND? WHAT WAS THE MOTION? I DIDN'T HEAR IT.
THE MOTION WE'LL MAKE THOSE CHANGES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
AND SECTION TWO DASH ONE AT AN ALTERNATE, RIGHT? MAKE THE END DATE DECEMBER 21 OR DECEMBER 31, 2021 FOR ONE OF THE APPOINTEES AND DECEMBER 31, 2022 FOR THE OTHERS AND HAVE A PROVISION IN THERE THAT WE CAN REMOVE A MEMBER FOR ANY REASON.
AND THEN TWO DOT TWO FOR THE OTHER, THE OTHER TWO SECOND.
COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. FOX.
HI MS. CALLERS, MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. CARTER, PUBLIC HEARING
[K. Public Hearing (Recessed) - Review and Renewal of the Rockland, South River, and Limeton Agricultural and Forestal Districts - Taryn Logan]
REVIEW AND RENEWAL OF THE ROCKLAND SOUTH RIVER AND WANTON AGRICULTURAL FORUM, FORESTALL DISTRICTS, MS. LOGAN.GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING WAS RECESS FROM THE BOARDS NOVEMBER 17TH FOR MEETING, UM, TO GET PROPERTY OWNERS AMPLE TIME FOR REVIEW THE ROCKLAND SOUTH, WHEREVER AND LIME 10 AGRICULTURAL ENFORCEMENT DISTRICTS ARE UP FOR RENEWAL.
BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, THE COUNTY MUST DECIDE WHETHER EACH DISTRICT SHOULD BE RENEWED OR TERMINATED, WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE EXPANDED OR REDUCED IN SIZE AND CONDITIONS APPLICABLE TO THE DISTRICT SHOULD BE CHANGED.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND AGRICULTURAL ENFORCEABLE DISTRICT COMMITTEE, UM, HOW TO JOINT PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 14TH TO OBTAIN INPUT FROM RESIDENTS, UM, THAT MEETING WAS WELL ATTENDED
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AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ACT FOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT COMMITTEE VOTED TO APPROVE THE NEW PROPERTIES TO BE ADDED TO THE, AND THEY ALSO VOTED TO RECOMMEND THE EXTENSION OF ALL THREE DISTRICTS FOR A TIME PERIOD OF 10 YEARS.UM, SINCE THE NOVEMBER PUBLIC HEARING, WE DID RECEIVE ONE MORE APPLICATION FOR 20 ACRES TO BE ADDED TO THE ROCKLAND AGRICULTURAL ENFORCEMENT DISTRICT.
UM, AND OTHER THAN THAT, UM, YOU HAVE THAT IN YOUR PACKET AND YOU HAVE THE MAPS IN YOUR PACKET AND THE ORDINANCES.
UM, YOU HAVE A COPY OF MY POWERPOINT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
AND THANK YOU FOR RECESSING, THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONTINUING AT THIS MORNING.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. LOGAN? THANK YOU, MS. LOGAN.
UM, DO, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? I DO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, SUSAN BOWEN.
DID YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? I KNOW YOU ASKED IT WAS RECESS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE TO OPEN IT AGAIN.
IT WAS JUST A RECESS PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UH, BETTER KNOWN AS, UM, GENTLY FARM, WHICH HAS BEEN IN THE ROCKLAND AGRICULTURE DISTRICT FOR 42 YEARS.
I I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF OUR LOCAL AGRICULTURE DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
I'M VERY PROUD THAT OUR AGRICULTURE DISTRICT IN ROCKLAND WAS THE FIRST TO BE ESTABLISHED IN VIRGINIA IN 1978, SHORTLY AFTER THE STATE ENABLED LEGISLATION FOR THESE DISTRICTS IN 1977.
AT THAT TIME, LIKE MANY OF OUR RURAL COMMUNITIES IN OUR STATE, WE WERE EXPERIENCING THE LOSS OF PRIME, PRODUCTIVE FARM LAND TO DEVELOPMENT.
WE WANTED ANY TOOL WE COULD FIND AND USE TO HELP PROTECT THE BEAUTIFUL RURAL CHARACTER OF OUR LARGE AND SMALL FARMS IN ROCKLIN, AND SIMPLY TO PROTECT OUR WAY OF LIFE.
WE NOW HAVE THREE AGRICULTURE DISTRICTS IN NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN WARREN COUNTY AND EVERY CITIZEN TRULY BENEFITS FROM THEM.
THEY ENSURE THE PRODUCTION OF FOOD FOR PEOPLE AND ANIMALS.
THEY PROVIDE THE ESSENTIAL OPEN SPACE FOR CLEAN AIR AND WATER FOR AND FOR WILDLIFE HABITATS, AS WELL AS PROVIDING BEAUTY TO US, ALL OUR LOVELY GENITAL RIVER AND THE MANY STREAMS FLOWING THROUGH WARREN COUNTY ARE PROTECTED BY LAND.
MY ROCKLAND DISTRICT CONTAINS NEARLY 10,000 ACRES AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ADD CLOSE TO 500 MORE ACRES.
THIS YEAR IN 2020, OUR FARMS ARE BEING CARED FOR AND ARE AS PROJECT AND AS PRODUCTIVE AS EVER.
AND I THINK WE MUST ALL TO SEE THAT THIS CONTINUES.
IT IS MY HOPE THIS MORNING THAT YOU WILL VOTE TO CONTINUE OUR ROCK LAND SELF-AWARE THROUGH AND LIME TO AGRICULTURE, AS FAR AS SCHOOL DISTRICTS FOR ANOTHER 10 YEAR PERIOD, ALONG WITH ANY NEW ADDITIONS OF LAND.
AND I THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK MR. CHAIRMAN? THANK YOU.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FINAL CALL THAT BEING, UH, NOTHING BEING SAID THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? I HAVE A QUESTION FIRST, UM, FOR MR. WARDEN, BEFORE VOTING ON THIS, MY FAMILY HAS PROPERTY IN, UM, THIS DISTRICT.
IS THAT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR ME TO VOTE ON THIS? YEAH.
YOUR FAMILY OWNS PROPERTY THAT'S IN, IN THE DISTRICT, CORRECT? THAT'S PART OF THIS DISTRICT PLAN.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHY I'M, IF I NEED TO ABSTAIN, I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING.
THAT'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
UM, I DON'T BELIEVE JASON IS ON THE PHONE.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT WOULD BE A CONFLICT.
DID YOU HEAR MS. COLOR'S HIS QUESTION? I CAN'T HEAR MRS. COLORS AT ALL.
SO HER QUESTION WAS HER FAMILY OWNS LAND IN ONE OF THE AGRICULTURAL AND FOREST HILL DISTRICT, AND SHE WAS WONDERING IF SHE WOULD NEED TO ABSTAIN FROM THE VOTE.
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UM, CAN YOU DEFINE FAMILY MRS. COLORS? MY HUSBAND AND MY SON.WELL, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE AN ORDINANCE TO MODIFY AND EXTEND THE ROCKLIN SOUTH RIVER IN LAMBTON, AGRICULTURAL FORRESTAL DISTRICTS, PURSUANT TO TITLE 15 DOT TWO CHAPTER 43 OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA, AS IT HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BY THE AGRICULTURAL AND FORRESTAL DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, PLANNING, COMMISSION AND PLANNING STAFF.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, OR COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. SHIRAKI.
MS. OATS, MR. CHAIRMAN, MS. CALLERS ABSTAIN, MR. FOX.
[L. Acceptance of Deed of Gift of Easement from Adam Huddleston - Taryn Logan]
L THE ACCEPTANCE OF DEED OF GIFT OF EASEMENT FROM ADULT ADAM.THIS IS LOGAN, THE VIRGINIA OPEN-SPACE LAND ACT AUTHORIZES THESE OF CONSERVATION EASEMENTS, WHICH MAY BE HELD BY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND NON-PROFIT CONSERVATION ORGANIZATIONS TO PRESERVE OPEN SPACE AREAS, ADAM AND SEAN HUDDLESTON WISH TO PLACE THIS PROPERTY INTO A PERPETUAL OPEN-SPACE CONSERVATION EASEMENT, A COPY OF THE DEED OF GIFT OF EASEMENT TO ACCOMPLISH THIS AS ENCLOSED.
THE PROPERTY CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 443.59 ACRES, AND IS LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF ASHBY STATION ROAD IN ROCKLAND ROAD AND THE SHANANDOAH MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT.
THE PROPERTY CONSISTS OF FOUR PARCELS IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP, SIX AS LOT TWO AND TAX MAP FIVE SLASH 2020 B AND 22 A HAS SUMMARY OF THE RESTRICTIONS IMPOSED.
AND THE DATE OF GIFT OF EASTMAN IS, UM, MOST ON YOUR COVER SHEET, BUT JUST TO GO OVER A FEW OF THOSE, UM, THE PROPOSED USES IS FOR AGRICULTURAL AND OPEN SPACE.
PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY FOUR LOTS, BUT IT WILL NOT BE CONVEYED AS MORE THAN ONE PARCEL.
UM, ONE PRIMARY DETACHED DWELLING IS PERMITTED ALSO A DETACHED GUEST HOUSE OR COTTAGE.
UM, THERE ARE CURRENTLY TWO EXISTING DWELLINGS, ONE HISTORIC FARM HOME BUILT IN NIGHT IN 1792 AND ONE SINGLE STORY FRAME FARMHOUSE, UM, THAT, AND THEY WILL BE ABLE TO REPLACE THE ITEMS IF DESIRED IN THE FUTURE FARM BUILDINGS PER MINUTE, FOR AGRICULTURAL AND EQUINE ACTIVITIES OR FORESTRY.
UM, THE COLLECTIVE FOOTPRINT OF ALL THE BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY SHALL NOT EXCEED ONE HALF OF 1% OF THE TOTAL AREA OF THE PROPERTY.
THE THERE'S A 35 FOOT RIPARIAN BUFFER ALONG WILLOWBROOK, WHICH HAS AN INTERMITTENT STREAM ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, ALTERNATIVE ENERGY STRUCTURES ARE ALLOWED IN THE PROCESSING OR SALE OF FARM AND FOREST PRODUCTS PRODUCED ON THE PROPERTY IS PERMITTED.
UM, JUST A LITTLE HISTORY OF THE COUNTY'S CONSERVATION EASEMENT PROGRAM WAS OFFICIALLY ADOPTED IN AUGUST, 2009.
UM, WE CURRENTLY HOLD 3,543 ACRES IN EASEMENT ON THE PROGRAM IS MANAGED THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
WE REVIEW THESE EASEMENTS FOR COMPLIANCE.
WE HAVE A GIS LAYER THAT EASILY ALLOWS US TO KEEP AN INVENTORY OF THESE EASEMENTS AND HELPS US MONITOR ANY BUILDING ACTIVITY.
UM, THIS PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY EXISTING CONSERVATION EASEMENTS AND DOES HAVE A HIGH CONSERVATION VALUE AS DETERMINED BY THE COUNTY CODE.
UM, I INCLUDED THE RANKING CRITERIA, UM, FOR THIS PROPERTY IN YOUR, IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, THE EASEMENTS IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, THE, UM, OWNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT, UM, EVERYONE HERE REPRESENTING THIS PROPERTY IS HERE FOR, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL, QUESTIONS, NOTHING FOR TERRAN.
THIS, UH, WE'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ACCEPTANCE.
I MOVED TO THE COUNTY OF WARREN EXCEPT THE DEED OF GIFT OF EASEMENT FROM ADAM AND SEAN HUDDLESTON, CONVEYING CONSERVATION OPEN SPACE EASEMENT CONSISTING OF 443.59 ACRES, MORE OR LESS LOCATED IN THE SHANANDOAH MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT ON THE CORNER OF ASHBY STATION ROAD IN ROCKLAND ROAD, CONTINGENT UPON THE OLIN.
MY AGENDA ITEM TENDED UPON BEING USED, WHAT THE DEED OKAY.
BEING SIGNED BY ALL NECESSARY PARTIES.
I FURTHER MOVE THAT THE BOARD AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE DEED OF GIFT OF EASEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY.
AND ALSO DON'T INCLUDE MY COMMENT ON THE WHOLE, IN THE, OKAY.
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COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? AND A QUESTION.IT SAYS IN, UH, PERPETUALLY OR WHATEVER, CAN, CAN A FUTURE AS A SEALER, WE'VE HAD THIS BEFORE IN A FUTURE OWNER ASKED TO RESEND THIS, OR IS THIS LOCKED IN FOREVER? IT IS A PERPETUAL EASEMENT.
UM, CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE HAD SOME BEFORE.
WELL, NOT FOR A PERMANENT CONSERVATION EASEMENT, UM, OR, OR AN AGRICULTURAL AND FOREST HILL DISTRICT CAN BE REMOVED.
UM, THIS, THEY WILL, THEY, YOU KNOW, YOU GET TAX CREDITS FOR THIS.
SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A PERPETUAL EASEMENT ON THE LANDS.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS, WELL, NOTHING WOULD STOP A FUTURE BOARD THAT I CAN THINK OF, OF GIVING BACK, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY ANYONE WOULD EVER DO THAT.
WELL, IT'S AN EASEMENT THAT'S BEING GIVEN BY THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE COUNTY.
SO THE COUNTY COULD GIVE THE EASEMENT BACK IF IT WANTED TO OR WHATEVER REASON, THEY PROBABLY BE DISASTROUS TAX CONSEQUENCES TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.
SO THEY WOULDN'T WANT THAT, BUT RIGHT.
THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED, BUT I GUESS IT COULD, I GUESS IF THE NEC, IF ANOTHER BOARD WOULD DECIDE THAT THEY DON'T WANT THIS CONSERVATION EASEMENT, BUT IT WOULD BE A DISASTROUS TAX.
MAY I ASK, AS I UNDERSTAND IT COULD BE IN THE FUTURE AND REVERSED BACK TO WHERE IT IS NOW.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? I MEAN, WE WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THAT TO HAPPEN BECAUSE IT'S A PERPETUAL CONSERVATION EASEMENT AND, AND LIKE THEY HAVE, THEY WILL BENEFIT FROM TAX CREDITS FROM THAT.
UM, BUT YEAH, SO I MEAN, IF A BOARD COULD DECIDE THAT THE COUNTY'S CONSERVATION EASEMENT PROGRAM IS, YOU KNOW, GET RID OF IT, GIVE THE EIGHT SMITH'S BACK.
UM, SOME OF OUR EASEMENTS ARE CO HELD WITH OTHER NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE VIRGINIA OUTDOORS FOUNDATION OR VALLEY CONSERVATION COUNCIL.
UM, THIS ONE, BUT WE DO HAVE ONES THAT ARE SOLELY HELD BY THE COUNTY.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR. CARTER? YES, SIR.
COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. FOX.
MS. COLORS, MR. CHAIRMAN, MS. OATS.
[M. Memorandum of Understanding for the Lord Fairfax Community College (LFCC) COVID-19 Scholarship Program - Carlene Hurdle/Ed Daley]
NEXT IS A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FOR THE LORD FAIRFAX COMMUNITY COLLEGE.UM, THE LFCC COVID 19 SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM, CARLENE HERBAL, AND MR. DALEY, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE MS. HURDLE ON THE ZOOM CALL AS WELL AS ANOTHER REPRESENTATIVE FROM LORD FAIRFAX, COMMUNITY COLLEGE, IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THIS IS THE SAME AGREEMENT THAT YOU LOOKED AT LAST WEEK AT THE WORK SESSION.
UH, ONE ITEM, I WOULD NOTE UNDER THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING ITEM, NUMBER ONE, WE WOULD AGREE TO CONTRIBUTE 30,000 RATHER THAN 25 TO THE PROGRAM, BUT IT'S A RETRAINING FOR COVID IMPACTED INDIVIDUALS THAT WAS DISCUSSED LAST WEEK.
THAT'S ITEM NUMBER ONE, CORRECT? YES IT'S.
IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT 25,000 OF THAT WILL GO TO SCHOLARSHIPS AND 5,000 TO MARKETING? IS THAT THE REASON FOR THE INCREASE? YES MA'AM.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS POINT? I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE PREMISE OF THIS.
I DO HAVE A LITTLE HEARTBURN OVER $5,000 FOR MARKETING.
I AM JUST NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO NOT VOICE THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GIVING HIM MONEY TO, TO HELP PEOPLE WITHIN WE'RE GOING TO PAY THEM TO ADVERTISE THE $5,000 BOTHERS ME.
THE 25 DOES NOT TO HELP PEOPLE, UM, THAT HAVE LOST JOBS.
SO JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT YOU CAN SOME, UM, SOME OF THE JURISDICTIONS HAVE THE 5,000 IN SOME HAVE IT OUT.
YOU MIGHT'VE HEARD THE ADS, UH, PROMOTING THE QUESTION IS HOW DOES EVERYBODY BECOME AWARE OF THE PROGRAM? AND IF YOU'VE HEARD ANY OF THE ADS FOR SHENANDOAH COUNTY, UM, THAT'S HOW THEY'VE
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BEEN PAYING TO PROMOTE THAT.BUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN TAKE THAT OUT AND JUST MAKE THIS 25 ALL FOR SCHOLARSHIPS.
UH, IT'S JUST, HOW DOES THE INDIVIDUAL FIND OUT ABOUT IT? THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION WE CAN PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE, HOW THE REST, IT FEELS ABOUT THAT, BUT I JUST FELT I NEEDED TO SAY THAT.
BUT THE THING OF IT IS, I MEAN, UNFORTUNATELY YOU GOT TO GET THE WORD OUT AND THERE'S NO GOOD WAY TO GET THE WORD OUT, IDEALLY.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT.
I MEAN, THE WORST CASE WOULD BE WE PULLED THE 5,000 AND THEN THE 25,000 JUST SITS THERE AND NOBODY USES IT.
SO NOW, LIKE I SAID, YOUR POINT'S VALID AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, I HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT TOO, BUT I THINK WE'VE MOVED FORWARD.
I THINK WE'VE MOVED FORWARD WITH IT AS WELL.
UM, THE, UM, THE DOLLARS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SCHOLARSHIPS ARE DIRECTLY FOR THE SCHOLARSHIPS, THE $5,000, IF, UM, THE COLLEGE IS ACTUALLY MARKETING FOR IT, IT'S GOING TO COST THEM SOMETHING TO DO IT.
SO I WOULD THINK THAT WE LEAVE IT AT 30.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING OF LORD FAIRFAX, COMMUNITY COLLEGE TO PROVIDE CAREER TRAINING, ENHANCEMENT SCHOLARSHIPS FOR WARREN COUNTY RESIDENTS AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF 30,000.
I'LL SECOND IT, CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. SHAHRAKI.
THAT'S THE FOX? NO MOTION DOES CARRY ITEM NUMBER N WAS REMOVED, UH, ITEM.
[O. Radio Infrastructure Upgrade Project Request - Sheriff Mark Butler/Chief Richard Mabie]
OH, THE RADIO INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADE PROJECT REQUEST.MR. BUTLER, AND, UM, CHIEF, MAYBE HE WAS HERE, I GUESS I'LL BE A STAND IN FOR THE SHERIFF FOLLOWING HERE.
FIRST OF ALL, LET ME START OUT BY SAYING HOW MUCH WORK THE COMMITTEE AND CHUCKY HAS DONE TO GET THIS NARROW DOWN TO, UH, DO SOMETHING WE THINK IS, UH, I WANT TO TELL YOU THE ACCEPTABLE, UM, WHERE'S HE COMING? OKAY.
WE START OUT, UM, UH, AS YOU KNOW, THE BOARD APPROVED A HUNDRED, $5,000 FOR FIRE AND RESCUE, UH, RADIOS, UH, AND WHAT WE ENDED UP DOING WAS, UM, I'M SORRY.
WE'LL TAKE A BREAK, TAKE A 10 MINUTE RECESS, PLEASE.
THANK YOU, BRUCE STARTED AGAIN ON THE RADIO INFRASTRUCTURE.
MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND COUNTY STAFF HAS ALWAYS IT'S, UH, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WORKING ON ANOTHER IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR NOT ONLY THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE RESCUE SERVICES, BUT ALSO OUR COMMUNICATION CENTER AND OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE STAFF.
UM, SO AS CHIEF WAS ALLUDING TO STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY, UH, WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AS WELL AS MOTOROLA TO FIND A COST-EFFECTIVE SOLUTION TO MEET THE LONG-TERM NEEDS FOR OUR RADIO INFRASTRUCTURE.
UH, WITH THAT, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE JEREMY THOMAS, MIKE JANSEN, AND SCOTT CAMERON WITH MOTOROLA, UH, TO GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW AND A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY WITH OUR RADIO SYSTEM.
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OKAY, GOOD MORNING BOARD.AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU TO SPEAK TODAY.
UM, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME SLIDES.
UH, IT'S IN REGARDS TO A PROPOSAL PROVIDED TO THE COUNTY TO ADDRESS, UH, CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
THAT'S PART OF THE RADIO COMMUNICATION SYSTEM, THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATION SYSTEM.
UH, SEVERAL KEY COMPONENTS OF THAT SYSTEM ARE NOW AT THE END OF ITS EFFECTIVE SERVICE LIFE.
SO WE HAVE A PROPOSAL NOW TO ENHANCE THE SUPPORTABILITY SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO, UM, SUPPORT AND MAINTAIN THAT EQUIPMENT FOR THE LONG-TERM LIFE OF THE SYSTEM.
WITH THAT WE'LL BRING NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT ALSO IMPROVES THE SAFETY AND EFFICIENCY OF YOUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
SO IS THE, UH, PRESENTATION SLIDE UP.
SO, UH, TODAY, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE, UH, NINE 11 EMERGENCY CALLS, AS WELL AS NON-EMERGENCY CALLS COMES INTO YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY ANSWERING POINT OR PEACE APP, UH, IT'S AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, WHICH ALSO HOUSES THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AS WELL AS FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES, UH, DISPATCHERS WILL RECEIVE THESE CALLS AND THEN DISPATCH THE APPROPRIATE RESPONSE UNITS USING THE, UH, RADIO PUBLIC SAFETY RADIO COMMUNICATION SYSTEM.
UM, WE CALL THIS INTERFACE, THE RADIO DISPATCH CONSOLE, UH, THE CURRENT EQUIPMENT WAS INSTALLED WHEN THE BUILDING WAS DEVELOPED ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO.
SO IT IS, UH, JUST LIKE YOUR COMPUTERS AT HOME OR YOUR CELL PHONES OR ANY OTHER TECHNOLOGY, UH, YOU KNOW, AFTER 10 YEARS IT HAS BECOME OUTDATED.
UM, AND THE BIGGER CRITICAL NEED IS NOW WE'RE REACHING THE END OF EFFECTIVE LIFE OR END OF SUPPORT.
SO TO ADDRESS THESE NEEDS, WE'VE, UH, PROPOSED A, AN UPGRADE OF THE DISPATCH EQUIPMENT.
THIS IS, UH, THE LATEST AND GREATEST TECHNOLOGY.
IT'S A NETWORK YOU'VE GOT SERVERS AND ROUTERS AND SWITCHES.
UM, IT ALLOWS US TO EFFICIENTLY UPGRADE AND UPDATE, UM, TO PROVIDE SECURITY PATCHES AND THE ANTIVIRUS.
UM, THIS IS ALL EQUIPMENT BASED ON THE APP CODE THAT'S ASSOCIATION OF PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS OFFICIALS, UH, STANDARDS, THEIR STANDARD IS THE PROJECT 25.
SO WE JUST SHORTENED THAT TO P 25.
UM, WHAT IT ALLOWS IS US TO HAVE INTEROPERABILITY WITH SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS FOR ALL IN THE SAME STANDARDIZED, UH, UM, PROTOCOLS.
IT'S NOT A PROPRIETARY DESIGN.
UM, IT ALSO OPENS THE DOOR FOR GRANT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
SO AT THE STATE LEVEL AND FEDERAL LEVEL, UH, IT'S RE VIRTUALLY A REQUIREMENT NOW TO HAVE THIS
SO IT IS, UH, THIS TECHNOLOGY THAT WE PROPOSED IS ALL RELIABLE, PROVEN EQUIPMENT.
THERE'S OVER 50 JURISDICTIONS ACROSS THE STATE THAT HAVE THE COMMONWEALTH THAT HAVE, UM, THESE SAME CONSOLE, RADIO DISPATCH CONSOLES, AS WELL AS YOUR NEIGHBORS AND, UH, FREDERICK COUNTY, UH, CLARK COUNTY AND SHENANDOAH IMPLEMENTING RIGHT NOW.
THERE'LL BE A CUT OVER THAT LATER, UH, THIS COMING SPRING ON THIS SAME TECHNOLOGY, AND WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED A REMOTE DISPATCH OPERATE, UH, CONSOLE.
THIS WILL ALLOW FOR, UM, A SITUATION WHERE IF, UH, IF THE COMMERCIAL POWER GOES DOWN IN THE BUILDING, AND FOR SOME REASON YOU NEED TO BE EVACUATED HOW THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, YOU HAVE AN OPERATOR POSITION.
UM, A LOT OF FOLKS USE THESE FOR A MOBILE COMMAND BUS OR COMMAND CENTER TO SET UP FOR, UH, DISPATCHING FOR EVENTS.
YOU COULD HAVE A CHRISTMAS PARADE, YOU COULD HAVE A NUMBER OF THINGS.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S A REALLY NICE, UH, UM, TECHNOLOGY TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DISPATCH REMOTELY FROM YOUR PEACE APP.
UM, ANOTHER PIECE OF THIS UPGRADE PROPOSAL IS TO ADDRESS THE, UM, COVERAGE NEEDS INSIDE THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING.
SO YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, UM, BUT IT'S BRICK AND MORTAR.
IT'S VERY THICK WALLS, REBAR AND CONCRETE, WHICH POSES A CHALLENGE FOR RADIO SIGNALS TO PENETRATE INSIDE THE BUILDING.
UM, YOU MAY EVEN HAVE ISSUES WITH CELL PHONE COVERAGE AS WELL.
SO WE'VE PROPOSED A BI-DIRECTIONAL AMPLIFIER, IT'S AN AMPLIFIER SYSTEM INSIDE THE BUILDING.
IT HAS AN ANTENNA ON THE ROOF THAT RECEIVES THE RADIO SIGNAL FROM OUTSIDE.
RETRANSMIT IT, THAT SIGNAL INSIDE THE BUILDING SO THAT, UH, THE PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS THAT WORK THERE EVERY DAY CAN CONTINUE TO LISTEN TO AND INTERACT AND, AND COMMUNICATE OVER THE RADIO SYSTEM, YOUR FIRE AND RESCUE, UH, FIRST RESPONDERS USE, UH, AN ANALOG BASED SYSTEM.
THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE SINCE ABOUT 2004 WHEN THE COUNTY SWITCHED
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OVER FROM A LOW BAND, UM, SYSTEM TO THE CURRENT VHF SYSTEM.UM, THESE, THIS, THESE QUANTUM REPEATERS IS, ARE MOTOROLA BRANDING.
THESE GO AT THE TOWER SITES UP ON THE MOUNTAIN, ALL THE, ALL THE RF TOWER SITES, RADIO-FREQUENCY SITES HAVE THESE BASE STATIONS.
THEY REPEAT THE SIGNAL AND BROADCAST IT ACROSS THE COUNTY.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE ACTUALLY AT THE END OF LIFE ALREADY FOR THESE PRODUCTS AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME PARTS AND PIECES ON HAND, BUT THOSE ARE RAPIDLY BEING DEPLETED.
UM, THERE'S A NUMBER OF THESE SAME SYSTEMS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
SO WE'RE ALL SORT OF COMPETING FOR THE SAME.
WE DO HAVE SOME SPARES IN THE COUNTY, BUT, UH, IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEW PLATFORM THAT'S CALLED THE GTR 8,000, JUST MOTOROLA'S BRANDING AGAIN.
UM, THE GREAT THING ABOUT THESE IS THEY'RE MUCH SMALLER.
THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS ACTUALLY USING THEM TODAY, SO WE CAN USE THE SAME SPARES FOR BOTH EQUIPMENT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAINTAIN TWO SETS OF SPARES, UH, AGAINST ALL IP BASED TECHNOLOGY.
WE CAN DO UPDATES, UH, OVER THE RADIO NETWORK WITHOUT HAVING TO PHYSICALLY TOUCH THESE DEVICES.
SO IF WE NEED TO ADD ADDITIONAL CHANNELS AS THE SYSTEM GROWS, AS YOUR COUNTY GROWS, UH, WE CAN EASILY DO THAT WITH THE MOVE TO A DIGITAL SYSTEM.
UH, WE ALSO NEED TO ADDRESS THIS, THE RADIO SUBSCRIBERS.
THOSE ARE THE PORTABLE RADIOS THAT, UH, THE FOLKS WEAR ON THEIR HIP OR THE MOBILE RADIOS THAT ARE IN THEIR FIRE APPARATUS OR IN THEIR VEHICLES.
UM, SO WE'VE PROPOSED THE, UH, 130 OF THE APEX 8,000 XC PORTABLES.
UM, FRANKLY, UH, THESE ARE THE BEST RADIOS IN THE INDUSTRY, HANDS DOWN.
UM, THEY ARE TESTED TO MILITARY SPEC STANDARDS AND THEY EXCEED ALL OF THEM, YOU KNOW, WIND RAIN, FOG, SUBMERSION IN WATER, EXTREME, COLD, EXTREME HEAT.
I MEAN, THESE, THESE RADIOS RUN THE GAMUT.
UM, THEY WILL LAST YEAR USERS FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, BEST AUDIO QUALITY NOISE CANCELING ON, ON AND ON.
UM, AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO PUT THEM UP AGAINST ANY RADIOS OUT THERE ON THE MARKET.
SO A VERY LONG TIME, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SEE, UH, WE RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES UP TO 10 YEARS, BUT FRANKLY, UM, OUR USERS WILL STRETCH THESE OUT AND SOMETIMES GET, YOU KNOW, 15 YEARS.
I'LL REALLY WHAT, WHAT THE LIMITING FACTOR IS, IS BATTERIES.
UM, SO WE RECOMMEND REPLACING THE BATTERIES AFTER, YOU KNOW, FOUR TO FIVE YEARS OR SO, BUT, UH, THE RADIOS ARE GOING TO LAST YOU A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
UM, SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ROAM ONTO NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS.
I KNOW YOU DO A LOT OF MUTUAL AID WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS.
SO, UH, INCIDENTS THAT HAPPEN ON THE COUNTY BOUNDARY, OR JUST OVER YOU CAN, YOU CAN TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS AS WELL.
AND FINALLY, WE GET TO THE SLIDE THAT EVERYONE WANTS TO SEE HERE.
UM, ALL OF THE PRICING IS BASED ON THE, UH, VIRGINIA VITA, TWO WAY RADIO CONTRACT.
IT'S A COMPETITIVELY BID CONTRACT.
UM, AND WE HAVE ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES THERE AND RED AT THE BOTTOM.
I KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, QUITE FRANKLY, THE COUNTY HAS VERY SHREWD NEGOTIATORS AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN SHARPENING OUR PENCIL SO MUCH TO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A DIFFICULT YEAR FOR EVERYONE AND WE WANT IT TO TRY TO COME TO THE TABLE AND BRING THE BEST OFFER FOR THE COUNTY AS POSSIBLE.
SO, UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON PRICING? I WISH THERE WAS.
AND ACTUALLY WE TRIED THAT, UM, WE, UH, QUITE FRANKLY, MY JOB, UM, WITH MOTOROLA IS TO REPRESENT THE COUNTY AND TO BE A LIAISON.
UM, I WORK WITH YOUR FIRST RESPONDERS, UH, AND LIEUTENANT BROGAN AND, UH, AND KERMIT AND CHIEF MAYBE, AND THE SHERIFF, I MEAN, UM, SO I'M GOING TO BE HERE.
UM, I'VE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THESE FOLKS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, I'M GOING TO BE AROUND, SO I WANT TO GET THE BEST DEAL POSSIBLE.
AND, UH, AND SO WE WE'VE TRIED EVERYTHING WE CAN.
UM, AND I THINK THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE DEAL IT'S WAY BEYOND STATE-LEVEL CONTRACT, WHICH LEVERAGES, YOU KNOW, SYSTEMS THAT ARE 20 OR $30 MILLION.
SO YOU HAVE THAT PURCHASING POWER, YOU KNOW, THOSE ECONOMIES OF SCALE, UM, FOR THIS, THIS, UH, SYSTEM DESIGN.
AND, UH, QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S A, IT'S A FANTASTIC DEAL.
WITH THE DISPATCH CONSOLES, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
HOW LONG, WHAT WAS THEIR LIFE EXPECTANCY? SO THE DISPATCH CONSOLE IS THAT WE'VE PROPOSED, OR ACTUALLY THERE'S THE CURRENT ONES, UM, WILL CEASE TO BE SUPPORTABLE, GREAT, GUARANTEED SUPPORT AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TIME TO, UM, MANUFACTURE AND SHIP, IMPLEMENT THESE CONSOLES IN THE FIELD AND DO
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TESTING.SO WE'RE TALKING, UH, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL MONTHS TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT SO THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT BEFORE THIS INTO THE 2021 DEADLINE APPROACH.
THE TONSILS ARE ROUGHLY A 10 YEAR LIFE EXPECTANCY.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD INDUSTRY STANDARD.
NO, BECAUSE YOU'D MENTIONED THEY WERE PUT IN, IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING AND I THINK THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING WAS COMPLETED IN 20, 2012.
SO TECHNICALLY IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE EIGHT YEARS INTO THEIR 10 YEARS.
THEY MAINTAIN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TOO, AS FAR AS DON'T WAIT TILL THE LAST MINUTE WHEN EVERYTHING FAILS AND GET STARTED.
AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW, I SAID SOMETHING TO JERRY BEFORE, AND I GUESS TIME FLIES, CAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S BEEN THAT LONG SINCE WE UPDATED THE FIRE RADIOS AND HE TELLS ME IT WAS 2004 DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THAT LONG AGO.
UM, AND I KNOW AT THAT TIME WE, WE HAD CONTACT WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, GET ON THE SAME SYSTEM.
AND I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD TOO WAS, AND YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THE NEW EQUIPMENT, YOU CAN USE IT WITH MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS.
WHAT, UH, WOULD THAT MATCH UP WITH THE TOWN PD THAT'LL MATCH UP WITH THE TOWN PD? CAUSE I DON'T THINK IT DOES NOW, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.
BECAUSE THAT WAS AN ISSUE TOO, TO TRY TO GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER.
AND YOU HAD MENTIONED TOO, THAT 50 LOCALITIES HAVE GONE WITH THIS SYSTEM.
WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 83? SO THERE'S, UH, SOME FOLKS, UH, TH THESE ARE ALL PROJECT 25 SOLUTIONS.
SO, UM, THAT'S THE STANDARDS-BASED, THERE ARE FOLKS THAT HAVE NOT MIGRATED TODAY.
UM, AND THERE ARE OTHER FOLKS THAT HAVE OTHER VENDOR SOLUTIONS AS WELL.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, MOTOROLA HAS MOST OF THE CUSTOMERS IN VIRGINIA, UM, THAT THERE ARE ANOTHER, A NUMBER OF OTHER VENDORS AS WELL.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MENTIONED THAT OR NOT, AND, AND HAVE, UH, I THINK MADE YOUR DRISCOLL, UH, WAS VERY ADAPTED, LOOKING AT GRANTS.
ARE THERE GRANTS OUT THERE TO HELP ON THIS? I CONTINUE TO RESEARCH THESE ACTUALLY, AS YOU SAID EARLIER, FUTURE PROJECTS WILL BE ABLE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR GRANTS.
THE TIMING OF THIS, BECAUSE THE END OF THE LIFE, AND THE BE HONEST WITH YOU, THE PRICE PACKAGE THEY PUT TOGETHER WAS SOMETHING WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE TO NEGOTIATE BECAUSE I ASKED THE QUESTION, I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO GO UP QUITE SUBSTANTIALLY AFTER THE FIRST YEAR.
SO WE'RE KIND OF IN SPITE WHERE EVERYTHING WE HAVE IS END THE LIFE.
OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES BETTER.
WE'RE IN A VERY UNIQUE POSITION TO TALK ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW, THE SAME CONVERSATION TAKES PLACE.
NOW IT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT NARRATIVE.
UM, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR GRANTS TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
SO WE'VE ALREADY BEEN RIGHT AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ASSIST WITH.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A TEAM DEDICATED TO HELPING CUSTOMERS WITH GRANTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, FROM THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, A NUMBER OF GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AS WELL AND FIRE AND RESCUE RURAL COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO WE KEEP OUR FINGER ON THE PULSE, OF COURSE, WITH THAT BECAUSE IT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO ALL OF OUR CUSTOMER'S HEARTS, I'M TRYING TO SAVE TAX DOLLARS IN FORCE.
SO WE WILL BE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY, UH, AND FINDING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND APPLYING FOR THOSE GRANTS.
SO I KNOW THE NEW SHERIFF'S ADMINISTRATION TOOK PLACE IN JANUARY.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON THIS? I KNOW IT SAYS HERE IN JANUARY, 2020, IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT THE DISPATCH CONSOLES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT OKAY TO THAT ROGAN CAN SPEAK TO THE HISTORY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, WE INHERITED THIS PROBLEM, RIGHT? THEY BRANCHES FOOTBALL SEASON, RIGHT.
IT TYPICALLY BEGINS IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY WHEN WE WALKED, EVERYBODY WALKED INTO THEIR JOBS AND OFFICE WELL INTO THE SEASON BALL, ARE YOU IN KIT? UH, IT'S REALLY BEEN A REMARKABLE WORK AND ROLLOVER WITH THEIR SUPPORT IS MOVING FORWARD.
I THINK YOU'D PROBABLY HAVE SOME CONVENIENT RELATIONSHIPS.
UM, ACTUALLY I JUST TALKED TO BRANDON THIS MORNING, MR. DAVIS MORRIS, AS WELL AS TRYING TO GET US IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NEW GRANT PROJECTS.
AND WE BEGUN TO INTEGRATE BRANDS, WHICH IS ALL THESE CHANGES.
SO YOU'RE CONSTANTLY DAILY MONITORING.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS EVER SINCE WE FOUND OUT THAT THIS IS A TOUGH CONVERSATION WE HAD TO HAVE, AND THIS WAS LESS MOBILE WORKED THROUGH ALL THE OTHER INNOVATIVE PARTS.
THE COUNCIL, ANOTHER THING TOO IS AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE GET TEXTS TO NINE 11 VIDEO TO NINE 11.
WE GOT A LOT OF EMERGING TECHNOLOGY THAT OUR COUNCILS PROBABLY WANTS SUPPORT.
AND CAN YOU SUPPORT IT? SO IT'S JUST AN EMPLOYEE TO, THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT THESE GENTLEMEN OR A ROLE THAT THEY'RE THE EXPERTS.
THEY CAN SPEAK THE LANGUAGE AND TELL US WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING.
WE COULD TRY TO FIND ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES.
NO, I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS.
AND I UNDERSTAND COMING IN THERE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA ASSESS THE SITUATION ON NOT ONLY THE RADIOS, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE.
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IF THERE WERE GRANTS AVAILABLE THAT YOU'VE COME ACROSS LATER ON, WOULD THAT BE IMPACTED AS FAR AS IF WE ALREADY PUT THE SYSTEM IN PLACE AND THE GRANTS ARE NOT GOING TO, UH, CONTRIBUTE TO IT AFTER THE FACT WILL THEY, WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO DETERMINE, UM, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN GRANTS HAVE DIFFERENT GUIDELINES.UM, BUT CERTAINLY IF WE ARE IN AN IMPLEMENTATION PHASE AND WE CAN UTILIZE THAT GRANT FUNDING TO OFFSET, UH, EXISTING COSTS, EVEN, EVEN POST-CONTRACT POST-AWARD, THEN, THEN WE'LL, WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR THOSE GRANTS AS WELL.
SO I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN ONES THAT MAY LIMIT US, UM, UH, TO PRIOR TO PURCHASE, BUT THERE ARE OTHERS THAT DON'T CLOSE THAT DOOR.
AND, UM, THE OTHER THING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT IS, IS SOMETIMES GRANT FUNDING DOES NOT GET SPENT.
AND SO WE CAN LOOK BACK AT PRIOR YEARS, UM, SORT OF PERSISTENCE, UH, ASSISTANCE TO FIREFIGHTERS GRANTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT MONEY THAT WAS ALLOCATED DIDN'T GET SPENT, COMES BACK AND WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER CYCLE TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AGAIN, MR. CARTER, IF I MAY, UM, I CAN'T SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT GRANTS THAT THEY GET, BUT TYPICALLY THE FIRE AND RESCUE BRANCH FOR THE AFG PROJECT, WON'T COVER BOTH PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES.
WE MAY BE ABLE TO UPGRADE FIRE AND RESCUE RADIO INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT IT WON'T BE THAT PROJECT.
IN ADDITION TO, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE OTHER PROJECTS COMING DOWN THE PIKE IN, IN THEORY, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THE SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS GRANT PROJECT, THAT WAS A TOP PRIORITY BASED OFF OF THE CRITICAL NEED, THE OUTDATED EQUIPMENT NON-COMPLIANCE.
UM, WE FORESEE THAT WE WILL HAVE TO USE GRANT THOSE TYPES OF GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER PROJECTS.
SO BY VIRTUE OF, I DON'T WANT TO PUT IT THIS WAY.
AT SOME POINT WE JUST CAN'T KEEP DEPENDING ON GRANTS WHILE THEY'RE GREAT.
WE HAVE MANY NEEDS WITHIN THE PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES THAT EVENTUALLY WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE ON A WARM SCALE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT LIKE THIS, AND USE THE GRANT PROGRAMS TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR NEEDS IN OTHER AREAS.
IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE, MAKES THE ONLY THING IS NOT ONLY FIRE RESCUE SHERIFF, BUT OTHER ENTITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY, THEY HAVE OTHER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT NEEDS TOO.
AND IN WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS WHEN WE KNOW SOMETHING'S COMING DOWN THE PIKE, WE'RE ABLE TO PUT AWAY A HUNDRED THOUSAND A YEAR OR WHATEVER, SO TO OFFSET THE FINAL COST.
SO IT DOESN'T HIT ALL AT ONCE.
AND I REALIZED, AND YOU TOUCHED ON IT AS FAR AS THE, UM, THE FINANCING AGREEMENT, BUT FIRST, UH, UH, FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE, AND I KNOW, I THINK THE, LIKE I SAID, 15 YEARS AGO, IT SEEMS LIKE YESTERDAY WE PUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH MOTOROLA.
THE, WHAT WE CALL CLONTARF, WHICH IS WHAT CREDIT, IF I'M WRONG, IT'S THE REPEATER PART FOR THE FOREIGN RESCUE SIDE.
THEY ARE THE ONES THAT WERE INSTALLED IN 2004 THAT ARE STILL EXIST.
SO THEY HAVE NOT FAILED, UM, YEAH.
UM, BUT, UH, NO, AND I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING SET ASIDE TOO.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS TO UPGRADE THE REPEATERS OR WHATEVER THAT WAS ALREADY.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS SET ASIDE OR WE KNEW THAT PIECE AT LEAST WAS COMING DOWN.
AND I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD TOO WAS WAS THIS, OR DID IT HAVE TO BE PUT OUT FORBID MOTOROLA IS AN EXCELLENT COMPANY TOP OF THE LINE, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED, OR MAYBE OTHER OUT THERE TOO, WAS THIS PUT OUT FOR BID, DID IT HAVE TO BE PUT OUT FOR BID OR IS IT CONSIDERED A SINGLE SOURCE? I THINK IT CAN BE CONSIDERED A SINGLE SOURCE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, BASED OFF OF YOUR REPLACING THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU HAVE IN THE CHOICE PROVIDER AND YOU'RE WRITING ON ADDITIONAL CONTRACT.
WE'RE ACTUALLY BIDDING OFF THE STATE CONTRACT, BUT HE JUST SAID THAT WE WEREN'T GOING OFF.
I THOUGHT YOU SAID WE WEREN'T GOING OFF THE STATE CONTRACT AND YOU WERE DOING BETTER IN THE STATE CONTRACT.
SO THE CONTRACT ACTUALLY ALLOWS US TO OFFER ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES.
SO THIS, WE USE STATE CONTRACT LANGUAGE AND DISCOUNTING, UM, AND THEN GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT.
AND THEN WHAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE, UH, FINANCING THREE, FIVE OR SEVEN TO TWO YEARS? IS THAT DON'T AND MAYBE IT WAS UP THERE ON YOUR SCREEN, BUT IN THE PACKET, MAYBE IT'S SOMEWHERE ELSE IS SHOWING THREE YEARS, FIVE YEARS.
I DON'T SEE A TWO YEAR OPTION.
THE FINAL NUMBERS ACTUALLY CAME IN AND I ADJUSTED THEM THIS MORNING.
UH, THAT PACKAGE IT, UH, MADE LAST WEEK FOR YOU ALL.
UM, SO WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS WHAT IS PROPOSED PROPOSED A TWO YEAR
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TERM SHEET LIKE THIS UP AT YOUR TABLE? YEAH, I'VE GOT IT.UH, YOU'LL SEE SOME CHICKEN SCRATCHING.
AND THE INTENT WAS THAT IN DECEMBER, 2020, IF THIS CONTRACT WAS APPROVED, WE WOULD PAY 815,003 OH THREE UNDER THE BASIS THAT YOU SEE FIRE PROGRAMS FUND, WHAT WAS GOING TO BE FOR THE GENERATORS, THE 105 FROM THE RADIOS AND THE SIX 29, SIX 30 FROM THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE.
THAT'S THE TRANSFERS FROM THE CARES ACT.
THEN IN DECEMBER 21, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE AN AVERAGE THAT FIVE 13, MY IDEA WAS FOUR 50 AND DECEMBER 22 WAS GOING TO BE FIVE 44.
SO THAT, THAT THEN THE, THAT JULY IS WHEN YOU BEGIN PAIN OR THE SIX FIREFIGHTERS THAT ARE AT THAT POINT WILL COST ABOUT 550,000 A YEAR THAT ARE ON THE GRANT.
SO THIS PAYMENT WOULD SLIDE INTO THAT, THAT SLOT IN PREPARATION FOR THAT, AS WE WERE TALKING, WHEN YOU DID THE GRANT, THAT WE WOULD NEED TO BE RESERVING MONEY AND USING IT FOR ONE TIME EXPENDITURES UNTIL WE REACH THAT POINT, UH, I SEE WHAT THEY HAVE IS THEY JUST TOOK THE AVERAGE OF THE FIVE 13.
WE CAN, WE CAN WORK WITH THAT.
DALEY, ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO, FOUR WEEKS AGO, YOU GAVE US AN EXTENSIVE LIST OF SPECIAL PROJECTS, FUNDS.
MANY OF WHICH HAVE SEEMED TO HAVE BEEN IN THOSE LITTLE SPECIAL PROJECTS FOR FIVE YEARS OR LESS FOUGHT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, IS ANY OF THAT MONEY AVAILABLE THAT WASN'T USED FOR ITS ALLOTTED SPECIAL PROJECTS AND HAD BEEN SAVED OVER PREVIOUS YEARS AVAILABLE TO FUND THIS PROJECT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE PROJECTS, UH, MR. MICK LIBERTY HAS, IS TO GO THROUGH THAT, UH, FIVE YEAR ANALYSIS AND SEE WHAT WE MAY WANT TO THE BOARD MAY WANT TO, UH, TO REALLOCATE THE ALLOCATE THERE.
YES, THAT'S SO DEFINITELY THERE'S SOME FUNDING THERE THAT WE'D BE BELIEVE CAN BE REUSED.
CAUSE I THINK THAT THEY HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB OF SAVING FOR FUTURE RAINY DAY PROJECTS OR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, BUT MANY OF THEM MAYBE DIDN'T GET SPENT.
AND NOT AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT IT APPEARS TO ME WITH THAT EXTENSIVE LIST THAT YOU GAVE US THE SPREADSHEETS.
SO, BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOUR, YOUR IDEA FOR FUNDING THIS NOW IS, UM, YOU ARE GONNA TAKE FUNDS FROM, I DON'T THINK I HAVE THAT NEW ONE ON MY IT WASN'T HERE MAYBE UNLESS IT'S IS IT THIS ONE? I DON'T SEE CHICKEN SCRATCH.
UM, SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT WE ARE GOING TO PAY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND 629,643.
WE HAD ALREADY APPROVED 105,002 WEEKS AGO FOR, UH, RADIOS, UH, UPON THE FIRST, UH, PRESENTATION AND THEN 80,000 FIRE PROGRAM FUNDS, WHICH WOULD LEAVE A BALANCE, UM, THAT YOU HAVE PROPOSED THAT WE ARE GOING TO PAY THE FIRST ALLOTMENT IN 2021, DECEMBER, 2021 AT FOUR 50 AND 2022 WOULD BE FIVE 43 JUST IN TIME TO PAY FOR THE NEW PEOPLE THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO FUND, UH, OR TO PUT IN THE RIVERMONT FIRE DEPARTMENT JUST IN TIME.
JUST-IN-TIME I LIKE JUST-IN-TIME APPROACHES.
I UNDERSTAND THEN, AND THEN EVENT, AND THEN POTENTIALLY WE MAY HAVE OTHER FUNDING AVAILABLE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THAT ANALYSIS IS OF ALL THOSE SPECIAL PROJECTS.
AND LOOKING AT THAT REALLY IS PART OF THE PREPARATIONS FOR THE NEW BUDGET.
IS THAT, THAT FUND? THANK YOU.
WASN'T THERE A QUESTION ON SPARES? HOW MANY, HOW MANY SPARES ARE WE GETTING FOR POLICE AND FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT?
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SO THE PROPOSAL DOES INCLUDE SPARE EQUIPMENT, UM, FOR ALL OF THE PROPOSAL PROPOSED EQUIPMENT.UH, I, I COULD GET A NUMBER FOR YOU, BUT LET'S SAY ROUGHLY 10 TO 15%, UM, OF THE EQUIPMENT LIST HAS A, A SPARE BUDGETED IN THERE AS WELL.
IS THAT TOO MANY? I MEAN, I JUST ASKED HIM, CAUSE IF WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE THE COST, THAT'S A PERFECTLY GOOD SPOT WITH 10 OR 12 SPARE, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO GIVE YOU A KIND OF AN IDEA.
UM, LIEUTENANT GATES OR CHIEF MAYBE DID AN ANALYSIS OF OUR CURRENT FIRE AND RESCUE CACHE OF EQUIPMENT.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO CUT 40 RADIOS OUT OF THIS PRICE POINT RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE.
SO WE, WE DID AN INITIATIVE 16 YEARS AGO WHEN WE UPGRADED OUR RADIO SYSTEM THAT WE WOULD ASSIGN EVERY FULL-TIME STAFF MEMBER, A RADIO TO HAVE IN THEIR VEHICLE TO WHERE WHEN DUTY TO HAVE FOR EMERGENCY CALL BACK.
UH, WE HAVE FOUND THAT THAT PROGRAM DID NOT REALLY, UM, TAKE OFF AS IT NEEDED.
AND WE FIND THOSE RADIOS HANGING IN THE FIRE STATIONS WHEN THEY GET OFF AT 7:00 AM.
THEY'RE NOT TAKING THAT RADIO HOME SO THEY CAN USE ONE OF THE RADIOS THAT'S ASSIGNED TO THE UNIT FOR A STAFF POSITION FOR THEIR DAILY ACTIVITY.
UH, SO WE WERE ABLE TO CUT RADIOS RIGHT OUT.
SO WE DID AN ANALYSIS OF THAT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GO IN AND CUT RADIOS FROM OUR CURRENT EQUIPMENT CACHET TO TRY TO SAVE MONEY WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.
AND YOU, AND YOU FEEL CONFIDENT WITH THAT 15%, WHATEVER THE SPARES ARE THAT SAY, MY RADIO GOES DOWN, YOUR THAT'S GOING TO COVER SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE WHAT THEY NEED FOR COMMUNICATION ON TOP OF IT, WITHOUT BEING OVER AND ABOVE.
THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED AT A FIRE ADMINISTRATION LEVEL IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE TODAY IS OUR CURRENT RADIO CACHE.
EVERYTHING IS PRETTY MUCH INTO LIFE AT THE SAME TIME.
SO WE MAY LOOK AT IN FUTURE BUDGETS AND FUTURE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, FIRE PROGRAMS, FUNDS IS STARTING TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL RADIOS AT A LATER DATE.
THAT WAY WE ALL DON'T EXPIRE AT THE SAME TIME, KINDA LIKE WE'RE AT TODAY.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, LIEUTENANT GAITHER'S FORCED TO FIX OUR PAGING AND RADIO SYSTEMS BY ALMOST BUYING PARTS ON EBAY SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, SO BECAUSE WE CAN'T FIND THOSE PARTS FROM OUR VENDORS, UH, THAT ARE READILY AVAILABLE.
SO BY LOOKING THAT CONCEPT, WE FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE CAN MEET OUR CURRENT FIRE AND RESCUE SYSTEM.
OUR STAFFING LEVELS, THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS AS WELL AS, AS WE SEE GROWTH OVER THE NEXT MANY YEARS, WE INCORPORATE THAT GROWTH INTO OUR BUDGET.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A EXUBERANT AMOUNT RIGHT NOW WE CAN ADD EQUIPMENT LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD FOR A REPLACEMENT COST, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT 15 YEARS, WHEN WE'RE BACK BEFORE A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WE WON'T BE PITCHING A REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.
THIS EXUBERANCE WILL BE ABLE TO DO IT IN THE FACE.
WELL, AND I THINK IT'S WORTH MENTIONING.
SO PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE LISTENING TO THIS, THIS SYSTEM STARTED OUT AT $2,728,520.
AND YOU'VE GOTTEN IT DOWN TO 1 MILLION, $809 THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS A PRETTY GOOD.
NOW I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU WOULD'VE GOTTEN A GRANT THAT DIDN'T HAVE SOME KIND OF COST MATCH.
YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET IT DOWN AND APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DID GETTING THAT DOWN.
UM IT'S UM, AND I THINK PART OF THAT, WE NEED TO REALIZE IS THE TURNING IN OF THE OLD RADIOS.
AND, UM, SO YEAH, IT, IT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY A $900,000 IN INCENTIVES AND DISCOUNTS AS A SUBSTANTIAL CHUNK OF CHANGE BEING OFFERED FOR THIS AGREEMENT.
WE GOT A GRANT FOR WHAT 700 AND SOME FOR THE AIR PACKS.
TO GET A GRANT THAT WOULD HAVE, YEAH, THAT'S NOT EVEN OUT THERE.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT.
NOT IF YOU GO, IF AT LEAST I CAN'T SPEAK ON SHERIFF'S OFFICE SIDE, BUT IF YOU GO BACK THROUGH THE WORK PROCESS FOR OUR SCBA GRANT PROCESS, BASED OFF OF OUR LOCALITY SIZE ALONE, WE'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS OF FEDERAL FUNDS THROUGH THE AFG GRANT PROCESS.
SO WE HAD TO KEEP OUR SCBA PROGRAM DOWN BELOW A MILLION BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ELIGIBLE VIRTUALLY FOR THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY.
SO YOU WOULD STILL HAVE, HAVE AN OUT-OF-POCKET EXPENSE TO COVER CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THIS GRANT PROGRAM.
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I HEAR YOU GUYS SAY, BUT WHAT IS THE WARRANTY ON THESE, ON THE, ON THIS EQUIPMENT? AND LIKE HOW LONG ARE IT, WILL MOTOROLA REPLACE AND, OR REPAIR AND, OR OTHER A GREAT QUESTION.LET ME GET TO THE MICROPHONE HERE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, FIRST AND FOREMOST IN OUR MINDS IS THE LONG-TERM SUPPORTABILITY OF THESE SYSTEMS. UH, WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS A LARGE CAPITAL EXPENDITURE AND, UM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET THE BEST VALUE OUT OF THAT.
AND ONE OF THE WAYS TO GET GREAT VALUE IS, IS THROUGH LONG-TERM SUPPORT.
SO, UM, THE SUBSCRIBERS, ALL OF THE RADIOS IS MOBILES AND PORTABLES COME WITH, UH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FIVE-YEAR WARRANTY INCLUDED.
UM, ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE WILL FALL UNDER A ONE-YEAR WARRANTY AND WE'LL HAVE A MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT CONTRACT MOVING FORWARD JUST AS WE HAVE DONE IN PRIOR YEARS ON THE RADIO INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE THE, THE ONE-YEAR WARRANTY ONE-YEAR WARRANTY, AND THEN YOU'D BUY LIKE AN EXTENDED WARRANTY LIKE WITH, WITH YOU SURE.
IT'S A, YOU KNOW, I USE CAR ANALOGIES A LOT.
SO A LOT LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS TAKE CARE AND FEEDING AND OIL CHANGES.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT TOO DIFFERENT FROM, FROM THAT TYPE OF A SCENARIO WHERE YOUR ONGOING MAINTENANCE, UM, SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO SUPPORT.
WE HAVE A SUPPORT FACILITY THAT'S ONLY 18 MILES AWAY.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE BLESSED TO HAVE A VERY CAPABLE STAFF WITH FOLKS, DECADES OF EXPERIENCE THAT ARE A SHORT DRIVE AWAY.
SO, UH, IS THE, THE, THE EXTENDED WARRANTY BUILT INTO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BUDGET ALREADY FOR THE, WHAT WE'RE OCCURRING? WHAT WE CURRENTLY DO, OR IS THAT ADDITIONAL TO THIS, TO THIS OFF AMOUNT OF MONEY? NO, I BELIEVE IN PHILBIN IN ALREADY.
WHY YOU TALK ABOUT WARRANTY? I WANT TO, I WANT TO GO BACK TO A COUPLE OF KEY WORDS THAT HE HAD IN HIS PRESENTATION, MILITARY SPECIFICATIONS AND WATER RESISTANT, ONE APPROVED, WHERE ARE OUR RATING? NOW, IF YOU DROP THEM FROM A DISTANCE LIKE THIS TO CONCRETE, THERE ARE LIKELY LIEUTENANT APRON WILL TELL YOU THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO CALL THEM AND SAY, HEY, MY PORTABLE TROPE, UM, BASED OFF OF THE AGE OF THE EQUIPMENT COMPONENTS ARE LOOSENING OR NOT THEY'RE CORRODING.
SO WE WE'VE TALKED TO OTHER LOCALITIES THAT VULNERABLE THIS PIPE, A RADIO, AND WE ACTUALLY START TO SEE MAINTENANCE COSTS GO DOWN IN THE LONG TERM BECAUSE OF THE DURABILITY AND IN A MORE WORLD WATER RESISTANT WATERPROOF MEANS A LOT WHEN YOU'RE INSIDE OF A, OF A FIRE.
AND IF SOMEBODY SPRAYING YOU WITH WATER AND YOU'RE INVOLVED IN THAT MOISTURE CONTENT, SO WE SEE MAINTENANCE COSTS GO DOWN WITH THIS TYPE OF RADIO.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT IS THAT ARE WE CURRENTLY PAYING MORE FOR MAINTENANCE BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF THE EQUIPMENT THAN WE WOULD ON THE NEW EQUIPMENT MOVING FORWARD? RIGHT, RIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO.
THE COUNCIL RIGHT NOW IS APPROXIMATELY $121,000.
THEN THAT NUMBER WILL BE OKAY.
DOES THIS RADIO MEET THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S NEEDS AS WELL? WE'VE LISTENED TO FARM RESCUE A LOT.
AND I I'M ASSUMING THAT A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS THAT HE'S SAYING BELONGS TO YOU TOO.
IT DOES, UH, ON THE FRONT END, WHEN THIS CONVERSATION STARTED, WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT HIM TO REPLACE OUR COUNCILS, THEY, UH, WERE VERY HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROJECT AND MEETING THEIR NEEDS WITH THE COUNCILS BECAUSE IT MEANS PRESENT AND FUTURE NEEDS.
AND IT ALSO HELPS US GOOD QUESTION UP WITH INTEROPERABILITY AND CAME.
WE TALKED TO WORK WITH THE TOWN CLOSE DEPARTMENT, BROTHERS AND SISTERS, ALL THESE CAPABILITIES.
WE ASKED HIM TO TALK TO EACH OTHER.
WE HAD A TRUE INTEROPERABILITY.
WILL THIS STUFF LAST ANSWER? YES.
IT MEETS ALL THE NEEDS OF THE SHERIFFS.
THERE'S NO QUESTIONS FOR ANYBODY, MR. DAYLA D I KNOW WE'VE DONE A WHOLE BUNCH OF RESEARCH ON THIS ALREADY.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD? NO, SIR.
WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT MAKING A MOTION ON THIS ALREADY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A MOTION PAGE EITHER.
THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EMOTION TO ADOPT THIS, TO AUTHORIZE THE CONTRACT.
IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.
IT'S NOT INCLUDED THAT, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE A MOTION ON HER OWN.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THIS APPROVAL AND, UM, MOVE ON WITH IT.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE OFFICIAL WORDS, BUT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT I AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT WITH MOTOROLA.
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IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.IT ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? COULD WE GET, COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MRS. SHIRAKI.
MR. CHAIRMAN WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU DID.
[P. Strategic Visioning Action Plans - Brandy Rosser/Rick Farrall/Ed Daley]
IS THE STRATEGIC VISIONING ACTION PLANS.UM, THIS IS RON SERVANTS, MR. DAVID.
UM, ON NOVEMBER 13TH AND 14TH, UM, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND STAFF PARTICIPATED IN A STRATEGIC VISION IN ADVANCE.
UM, AT THAT ADVANCED, WE DEVELOPED A COUNTY VISION AND ALSO IDENTIFIED SIX CRITICAL ISSUES, GOALS, AND STRATEGIES, UH, THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED WITH ACTION PLANS.
UM, AT OUR MEETING ON DECEMBER 1ST, WE DID REVIEW THOSE SIX CRITICAL ITEMS. UM, WE HAVE NOT CHANGED ANYTHING SINCE THAT TIME.
UM, I'LL BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THEM ALONG WITH, UH, MR. FARRELL, IF YOU LIKE.
UM, BUT THE CHART THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET IS THE ONE THAT WAS PRESENTED ON THE FIRST.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, WE HAVEN'T CHANGED ANYTHING SINCE THAT TIME.
I THINK RICK, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU HAVE, OH, I HAD SOME, AND IT GOES BACK TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE WORK SESSION LAST WEEK, TOO.
UM, AND I GUESS, WELL, NUMBER ONE, UH, I THINK I BROUGHT THAT QUESTION UP AT THAT TIME, TOO, AS FAR AS HIRING AN ADMINISTRATOR SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, AND WHAT IMPACT THAT HAD ON, UH, STAFF MORALE, BECAUSE THEY GET USED TO, OR SEMI USED TO MR. DALEY, AND THEN THEY HAD TO START ALL OVER AGAIN.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I WASN'T THERE AND I JUST FOUND OUT MR. FOX, WASN'T THERE EITHER AT THE, UH, SATURDAY SESSION.
UM, WHAT DID THE FACILITATOR, THE FACILITATOR HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON DELAYING IT? I DON'T REMEMBER ANY COMMENTS.
ANOTHER CONCERN I HAVE WITH DELAYING IS YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL JANUARY OR MARCH OF 20, 22 TO ADVERTISE, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU THREE HERE, PLUS AT LEAST ONE OTHER AND MAYBE TWO OTHER NEW ONES.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO THROW THEM RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF BUDGET.
AND I JUST THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE PUT, THAT'S GOING TO CREATE THE DELAY AS WELL.
UM, THE TOWN RECENTLY HIRED A, UM, TOWN MANAGER AND THEY WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR A YEAR AND THEY WENT THROUGH IT, UM, TWO APPLICATION PROCESS OR TWO TIMES HE WENT THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS UNTIL THEY FOUND THE RIGHT FIT.
SO USING THAT IF YOU WAIT TILL JULY OR JANUARY, MARCH OF NEXT YEAR, AND YOU DON'T GET SOMEBODY YOUR FIRST ROUND AND YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH A SECOND ROUND, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE INTERIM BEING HERE FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
AND I DON'T KNOW, IMMEDIATE DEFINITION OF INTERIM MEANS TEMPORARY IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS IS NOT SEEM LIKE IT'S TEMPORARY.
AND I GUESS MS. OATS CAN ANSWER THAT SINCE SHE'S A IT RECRUITER.
DO YOU REALLY GO THAT LONG WHEN YOU NEED A, UH, UH, A KEY EMPLOYEE TO WAIT THAT LONG IN THAT CASE? BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE AN AWFULLY LONG TIME.
I PERSONALLY THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE SITU THE INDIVIDUAL SITUATION, UM, AND WHAT YOUR END GOALS AND YOUR STRATEGIC GOALS ARE, WHICH I THINK WE DISCUSSED DURING THAT STRATEGIC PLAN, THAT THE GOALS WOULD BE TO STABILIZE THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER SITUATION FOR A NEW ADMINISTRATOR TO WALK INTO AND IS A STABLE, UH, EMPLOYEE BASE.
I WOULD THINK ANY POTENTIAL CANDIDATE WOULD WELCOME THAT OVERCOMING INTO A CHAOTIC SITUATION.
SO I THINK THAT THOSE WERE SOME OF OUR CONSIDERATIONS DURING THE STRATEGIC VISIONING PLAN.
AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT, BUT BY THE OPPOSITE SIDE, TOO, YOU CAN HAVE A NEW HEAD MAN WALK IN.
AND THE STAFF THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN HIRED MAY NOT CLICK, AND THAT COULD BE A WORST POSSIBILITY.
WELL, I THINK THEN THAT, THAT WOULD PUT MORE OF THE ONUS ON THE SUPERVISORS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HIRE THE RIGHT FIT SO THAT THEY DO, UH, WORK WELL
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WITH THE EMPLOYEES.I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND, AND BY HIRING WHO TO MAKE SURE IT'S THE RIGHT FIT THAT THE ADMINISTRATOR I CAN, I CAN, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IS KEY AS, UM, AS A FORMER SCHOOL EMPLOYEE.
I WAS A SCHOOL NURSE AT RESI JEFFERY'S FOR 15 YEARS.
I THINK I WENT THROUGH THREE SEPARATE PRINCIPALS AND AT LEAST THREE, MAYBE FOUR SYSTEM PRINCIPLES.
AND YEAH, THERE, THERE THINGS THAT YOU, YOU LEARN PERSONALITIES, YOU LEARN THE DIFFERENT WAYS.
THEY WANT TO DO THINGS, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T.
AND I, I WANT TO BE VERY SUPPORTIVE, OUR STAFF, VERY UNDERSTANDING OF HER STAFF, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT TURNING OVER AND ADMINISTRATOR JUST TO OVER THE CONCERN OF THEM GETTING USED TO ONE PERSON AND THEN HAVE TO GET USED TO ANOTHER PERSON.
WE COULD HIRE A NEW ADMINISTRATOR AND THEY DECIDE AFTER SIX MONTHS, THEY DON'T WANT TO BE HERE ANYMORE.
I HAVE SAID, AND I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT WE NEED TO BUILD A FOUNDATION THAT A NEW ADMINISTRATOR COMES IN AND HAS SOLID GROUND ON.
NO, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE PRODUCTIVE FOR STAFF OR FOR A NEW ADMINISTRATOR.
SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT PERSONALLY, I BELIEVE IF I CONTINUING TO DO TO PUT THIS OFF AND PUT THIS OFF, I'M AFRAID THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE MORALE OF STAFF.
NOBODY CAN SAY FOR SURE WHICH WAY IT WOULD GO.
UM, THE OTHER THING, TOO, EVEN THOUGH MR. DALEY IS DOING A, A ADEQUATE JOB AT THIS POINT, AND HE LIVES IN TOWN, WHICH HE HAS MORE REASON TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS WORK, BUT I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE OF THAT ATTEMPT, TEMPORARY PERSON IS GOING TO HAVE THE SAME OWNERSHIP AS A PERMANENT ADMINISTRATOR WILL HAVE JUST MY THOUGHTS.
AND AGAIN, WHEN WE AGREED TO HIRE MR. DALEY IN JULY, HE PUT FORTH THAT HE THOUGHT WE COULD HAVE SOMEONE HERE IN NOVEMBER AND THAT CHANGED.
I MEAN, THERE, AGAIN, MAYBE THE ONES WE GOT, I THINK, 18 APPLICATIONS, UM, AND, AND MAYBE THEY DIDN'T FIT THE BILL, OR MAYBE IT WAS ALREADY PREDETERMINED THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES AT THAT TIME.
UM, BUT AGAIN, GETTING BACK TO IT, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, GOING ON 18 MONTHS ON THE SHORT, SHORT RUN, UH, 24 MONTHS OR LONGER, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE GOOD.
UH, THE OTHER THING I'D MENTIONED BEFORE TO, UH, MR. DALEY AND WE'LL FIND OUT IN FEBRUARY, IF HE CAN CONTINUE TO GET PAID FOR 35 HOURS, OR IF IT COMES BACK DOWN TO 28.
AND AGAIN, I THINK MR. DALEY WILL PUT IN THE HOURS THAT MAY BE NECESSARY, BUT I WOULDN'T THINK THAT WOULD BE MUCH INCENTIVE TO PUT IN 40 HOURS OR WHATEVER.
WHEREAS YOU HIRE NEW WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO RIGHT OFF THE BAT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT IN MORE HOURS, UH, TO GET CAUGHT UP TO SPEED AND THE NORMAL, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE SALARIED.
UH, PERSONALLY, I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER LOOKING AT A RECRUITMENT FIRM LIKE THE TOWN DID, I'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS AT TWO TOWN MANAGERS.
ONE WAS ALREADY THERE WHEN I TOOK OFFICE FOR THE TOWN.
I WAS HEAVILY INVOLVED IN HIRING HIS REPLACEMENT.
AND THEN MR. STANLEY WAS HERE WHEN I GOT ON THE BOARD, UH, WHEN WE DID IT ON THE TOWN, WE DID IT OURSELVES.
WE HAD LIKE 150 APPLICATIONS AND WE WENT THROUGH THEM ONE BY ONE, BUT IT'S KIND OF COME DOWN TO, UM, UH, CASTING AS WIDE A NET AS POSSIBLE.
I KNOW MR. DALEY HAS NUMEROUS CONTACTS, UH, THROUGH THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND HE CAST THE NET AND WE HAD PEOPLE I THINK, FROM WEST COAST, BUT I JUST SEEM TO THINK IN THERE AGAIN, UH, UH, MS. OAKS CAN, CAN, CAN TESTIFY AS FAR AS, UH, HER RECRUITMENT EXPERIENCES.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET AN OUTSIDE FIRM TO DO THIS, UM, AND WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS WE, WE LET HR JODI PUT TOGETHER AN RFP FOR AFFIRM, AND THAT COULD BE DONE RELATIVELY QUICK, CAUSE IT COULD BE PRETTY STANDARD.
AND THEN WE CAN START, UH, REVIEWING THOSE FIRMS JANUARY TO MARCH, AND THEN WE CAN START HAVING APPLICATIONS OR INTERVIEWS AND COULD THEORETICALLY HAVE SOMEBODY ON BOARD BY JULY ONE, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE A LOT BETTER TIMING BECAUSE THEN WE'RE DONE WITH THE BUDGET.
AND THEN THAT GIVES THEM TIME TO CATCH THEIR BREATH AND SEE WHAT WE DO.
AND MOST OF THESE CONTRACTS THAT I'VE SEEN, UM, AND JUST, I THINK LIKE THE TOWNS, THEY PAID AN X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS AND THEY WENT THROUGH THAT FIRST TIME AND I THINK THEY GOT LIKE 40 APPLICATIONS AND NONE OF THOSE SUITED.
SO THE FIRM ITSELF, AND THAT WOULD BE INCORPORATED IN OUR RFP OR THE CONTRACT, THE FIRM WOULD,
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UH, DO THE NEXT SEARCH FOR FREE AND THERE, AGAIN, TO ADDRESS MS. COLOR'S, UH, CONCERN, YOU COULD HIRE SOMEBODY IN SIX MONTHS LATER, THEY LEAVE THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED WITH THE TOWN AS WELL.I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT HIS NAME WAS, BUT THE COUNCIL, THEY MAY HAVE HAD A TURNOVER AND THEY DECIDED TO PART WAYS.
AND ONCE THEY PARTED WAYS, HE'D BEEN THERE LESS THAN A YEAR.
THE SEARCH FIRM AGREED IN THE CONTRACT TO DO ANOTHER SEARCH FOR YOUR CHARGE.
SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS ON, ON, ON THE, UM, ON THE, ON THE PROCESS OF AS FAR AS GETTING IT, UH, GOING QUICKER NOW, ALONG THOSE SAME LINES.
AND I GUESS, UH, I KNOW MS. OATS AT THE LAST MEETING WAS QUOTED AS SAYING, SHE WANTS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE STAFF WANTS IN A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND THE NEEDS OF THE EMPLOYEES BEFORE WE SEEK SOMEBODY PERMANENTLY.
AND I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THAT.
I KNOW WITH THE, THE, UM, THE STRATEGIC PLAN HELD ON SATURDAY, NOT ALL STAFF WAS THERE.
I ASSUMED THEY WERE ALL INVITED.
I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH NOTICE THEY WERE GIVEN, BUT THE OTHER THING THAT CONCERNS ME SOMEWHAT IS, AND THEN I HEARD MR. MABE SAY THAT TOO, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE, THE, THE EMPLOYEES AND WE WANT THEIR INPUT.
AND I JUST THINK THAT SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET HONEST AND COMPLETE FEEDBACK FROM THE EMPLOYEES TO US, UM, BECAUSE THEY MAY BE CONCERNED HOW IT MAY IMPACT THEM, UH, WHICH I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING, ANYTHING THERE AS FAR AS, UH, AS FAR AS, UM, RETRIBUTION OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
SO WHAT I'M PASSING OUT HERE AND MR. FOX GIVE ONE TO MS. OST OR TWO, WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS, AND THIS YEAR WAS JUST THE COVER THAT I THOUGHT I PUT TOGETHER AND JUST SAYS, AS VALUED MEMBERS OF STAFF, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REQUEST THAT YOU COMPLETE THE ATTACHED SURVEY WITH THE INTENT OF UNDERSTANDING HOW STAFF FEELS, THINGS ARE CURRENTLY, WE AS THE BOARD VALUE YOUR EMPLOYMENT WITH THE COUNTY AND PROVIDING THE BEST AND MOST EFFICIENT SERVICES TO OUR CITIZENS IN ORDER TO HAVE YOUR COMPLETE AND HONEST FEEDBACK, THE RESULTS OF YOUR ANSWERS WILL BE ABSOLUTELY ANONYMOUS TO ENSURE THIS.
WE ARE PROVIDED A STAMPED ENVELOPE ADDRESSED TO JODIE CFL.
THE ENVELOPES WILL BE OPENED IN THE PRESENCE OF MS CFL AND TO MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
AND THEN COPIES WILL BE GIVEN TO THE REST OF THE BOARD FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
WE HOPE THAT THIS WILL PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO VOICE YOUR CONCERNS, BOTH ON WAYS WE CAN DO BETTER AND WAYS WE CAN IMPROVE ON IF THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS.
AGAIN, WE, AS A BOARD, UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING AN EFFICIENT, CONSCIENTIOUS STAFF THAT CAN CARRY ON CARRY OUT THE BOARD'S POLICIES.
THE SECOND PAGE THAT I SENT OR INCLUDED WERE QUESTIONS I CAME UP WITH AS FAR AS THE SURVEY ON A SCALE OF ONE TO 10, ONE BEING POOR AND 10 BEING GREAT.
HOW DO YOU RATE YOUR MORALE? HOW DO YOU RATE, UH, PERFORMANCE LEADERSHIP OR THE BOS? HOW DO YOU RATE THE INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR, UH, BY DELAYING THE APPOINTMENT? DOES THAT HELP OR HURT, UH, MORALE? AND THEN WHAT CAN THE BOS DO TO INCREASE EMPLOYEE MORALE AND HAVE A BETTER STAFF TO BENEFIT THE CITIZENS WARREN COUNTY? AND THEY WOULD HAVE OPPORTUNITIES IN THERE TO, UM, TO COMMENT FURTHER.
AND I THOUGHT THE DISTRIBUTION SHOULD BE JODI EMILY, BRANDY, DAN, LANCE TARON, LOGAN FIRE CHIEF.
I KNOW MR. MAYB MAYBE LAST DAY IS THE 31ST, BUT HE COULD STILL PROBABLY OFFER SOME VALUABLE INSIGHT.
THE FINANCE, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
I SAID FINANCE GUT, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY FINANCE GUY.
UM, AND THEN DAVID BEAN AND THEN ALSO INCLUDED DSS.
THE MAIN REASON I INCLUDED DSS WAS BECAUSE, UH, THE DSS, UH, DEPARTMENT HEAD ACTUALLY IS HIRED BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
AND I GUESS IN THEORY WORKS FOR THEM.
I DID NOT INCLUDE, UH, CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES MAINLY BECAUSE THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS ARE THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT ENTITIES AND THEY DO NOT REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR NOR TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE TO ME, WHAT I HEARD WAS EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET INPUT FROM THE STAFF AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO PROCEED WITH THAT.
I WOULD SUGGEST TO THEM THAT, WELL, AS FAR AS THESE QUESTIONS, THESE ARE QUESTIONS I HAD.
I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT NUGGET WHEN YOU GOT A COPY OF NOW, BUT, UH, IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR, OR ITEMS THAT THEY COULD RESPOND TO, I WOULD, UM, EMAIL THAT TO MS. SEVILLE SAPPHO AND, UH, AND, AND TRY TO PUT IT OUT SO YOU CAN PUT IT IN PLACE IN THE EMPLOYEES BOXES.
I WOULD THINK THURSDAY WOULD BE AMPLE TIME TO DO THIS.
AND THEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT, THEY CAN RESPOND BACK BY THE 21ST.
WE COULD SLIDE OUT A LITTLE BIT.
AND THEN AFTER CHRISTMAS, BETWEEN THE NEW YEAR, WE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT THE RESULTS WERE
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AND THAT THERE COULD, I THINK, UH, LEAD US TO A BETTER SOLUTION.AND THEN AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, WE PUT IT IN A SELF STAMPED ENVELOPE.
AND SO THAT WAY WE MAKE IT ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT IT, THE, UH, UH, ANSWERS TO THE SURVEY CONCERNS OR COMPLETELY ANONYMOUS AND WHO KNOWS THEY MIGHT BE UNANIMOUS TOO.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I THINK, AND WHERE YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT POINT YET, BUT I THINK WE WAIT UNTIL WE GET THE FEEDBACK FROM THE STAFF BEFORE WE ADOPT THIS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FEEDBACK FROM THE REST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.
I HAVE A QUESTION ON ALL OF THIS PACKET THAT YOU WORKED SO HARD ON.
WE WORKED AS A GROUP TO, UM, TO WORK ON AT THE ADVANCE, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S DATES AND TIMES ON HERE.
THAT'S NOTHING THAT'S ETCHED IN STONE.
THOSE ARE THE GUIDELINES TO WORK TOWARDS.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING BEFORE THOSE DATES ARE AFTER THOSE DATES, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND IT'S ALSO A LIVING DOCUMENT.
ABSOLUTELY CHANGE IT ANYTIME YOU WANT.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING TO DO IS TO CHANGE FOR NOW BECAUSE OF THAT.
I'M NOT TRYING TO ARGUE WITH YOU.
I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE POINT OF, YOU'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THEM, AND I'M SORRY THAT YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO ATTEND THE PHASE.
CAUSE IT WAS, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, I, AND I'M I SAID THERE THAT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO AGAIN SOON, MAYBE SOONER THAN EVEN I THOUGHT, UM, AND HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE WE HAVE AS WE CAN COVID TIMES DO.
UM, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS ASKING AND GETTING INFORMATION FROM THE STAFF.
I HOPE THAT I'VE MADE IT CLEAR TO EVERYONE.
I'VE GOT TO TALK TO ME ANYTIME POLICY, MY PHONE NEVER GETS SHUT OFF.
UM, AND I CERTAINLY HOPE I DON'T GIVE THE, UM, AUNTIE AURA OR WHATEVER THAT YOU CAN'T APPROACH ME.
SO, YOU KNOW, I WELCOME TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY.
AND IF IT HAS TO BE DONE THIS WAY, DON'T PARTICULARLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO RUSH INTO WITH, UNTIL WE GET A FOUNDATION ON AN ADMINISTRATOR.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO INITIATE THIS, THAT'S FINE.
I JUST FEEL LIKE YOUR, YOUR TIMELINE, THERE'S KIND OF RUSH WITH THE HOLIDAYS AND SO FORTH TWO WEEKS, SHOULDN'T TAKE THAT LONG, ESPECIALLY AS FAR AS YOU TALKING ABOUT RUSHING.
I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS WHOLE THING HAS BEEN RUSHED INTO, SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO SAY, LIKE, MR. MAPES SAID, THIS IS A LIVING BREATHING DOCUMENT AND IT'S SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
AND I JUST THINK TO GET THE EMPLOYEE'S FEEDBACK AND I DO APPRECIATE, AND I THINK EVERYBODY FEELS THAT WAY THAT THE EMPLOYEES CAN COME AND SPEAK TO US WHENEVER THEY WANT.
OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GETTING TOO DEEP INTO PERSONNEL ISSUES.
BUT AGAIN, I JUST THINK THAT, UM, I THINK IT MAY BE DIFFICULT FOR SOME EMPLOYEES TO MAYBE APPROACH SOME OF US BECAUSE THEY MAY BE CONCERNED ABOUT RETRIBUTION.
THEY MAY BE CONCERNED ABOUT RETRIBUTION.
I MEAN, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
I FEEL BAD ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE TO BE RETALIATED ON FOR ANYTHING.
AND I CERTAINLY DON'T PLAY, I DON'T RETALIATE AGAINST ANYBODY FOR, BUT IT'S, IT'S LEVEL OF TRUST THIS WAY HERE, BY DOING IT ANONYMOUSLY, WE CAN GET HONEST FEEDBACK.
I JUST, YOU KNOW, I JUST WISH THAT MAYBE YOU HAD BEEN ABLE TO ATTEND THE RETREAT OR ADVANCE HOW TO USE THE WRONG WORD.
AND THEN WE COULD HAVE, YOU GUYS HAVE SPENT AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME AND SAID, WAIT, JUST TO KIND OF RESTART THE PROCESS.
BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, IF I HAD BEEN THERE, I MAY NOT HAVE FOLLOWED THESE THINGS AT THAT TIME AND TO COME BACK AND ADD THEM ALL AT A, A LATER DATE.
I DON'T KNOW MR. FOX, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THOUGHTS, CONCERNS THE ADVANCED.
SO WHAT WAS IT? PROPERTY ADVERTISED? THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A MEETING AND ONCE THE PRESS MADE AWARE THAT THERE WAS GOVERNMENT WORK GOING TO TAKE PLACE, THEY WERE INVITED, SIR.
WE INVESTED A LOT OF TIME THAT THE STAFF INVESTED A LOT OF TIME.
THE SUPERVISORS INVESTED A LOT OF TIME.
UM, EVERYBODY, I FELT LIKE WE PUSHED FORWARD TO TRY TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO THE THINGS THAT, THAT ARE LOOMING OVER WARREN COUNTY GOVERNMENT.
UM, AND THERE WAS A SPIRIT OF COOPERATION THAT, YOU KNOW, I WISH THAT YOU
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WERE ABLE TO BE THERE BECAUSE THERE WAS A SPIRIT OF COOPERATION AND MOVING FORWARD.AND WITH THAT, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR JODI, JODI, HAVE WE EVER DONE A, AN ANONYMOUS SURVEY WITH THE, IF I MAY ANSWER, WE DID DO THAT.
WE DID THAT WITH DSS SEVERAL YEARS BACK BEFORE WE HIRED DEANNA.
AND I THINK THAT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
AS FAR AS GIVING FEEDBACK ON WHAT TYPE OF PERSON THEY WANTED TO HIRE.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO STEP IN FRONT OF YOU THERE, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER DOING ANYTHING FOR THE EMPLOYEES.
I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE SURVEYS CAN, CAN SKEW TRUE FEEDBACK BASED ON HOW ONE INTERPRETS ONE TO 10.
YOU KNOW THAT RIGHT? I MEAN, I I'M A NINE PERSON CAUSE I'M OPTIMISTIC, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SEVEN OR EIGHT PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT OPTIMISTIC.
SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL THAT WHAT WE GET BACK IS REAL.
YOU DON'T WANT TO SEND OUT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE CONSTRUED IN SUCH A WAY THAT YOU GET LOST.
YOU GET THEY'RE ALL OVER THE BOARD BASED ON THE PERSON'S PERSONALITY TRAIT.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING IF YOU'D EVER DONE IT BEFORE.
AND IF YOU HAD A, MAYBE A STANDARD FOR WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, RIGHT.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY RESPOND? I MEAN, WE'VE GOT WHAT? MAXIMUM 300 PEOPLE.
BUT WHAT TYPE OF RESPONSE WOULD YOU BE EXPECTING TO GET BACK TARGETED? OKAY.
AND SOCIAL SERVICES, YOU TALKED TO, ALL OF THEM, SENT A SURVEY TO ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES FOR WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR GIVEN, GIVEN THAT, AND YOU GOT LESS THAN 50%.
HOW MANY PEOPLE WORK AT SOCIAL SERVICES? SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LESS THAN 20 PEOPLE.
I MEAN, I'M NOT ADVOCATING THAT WE SEND IT TO EVERY EMPLOYEE.
I ADVOCATE, WE SENT IT TO THE KEY STAFF, THE SENIOR STAFF, AND THERE AGAIN, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, GAUGE THE MORALE OF THE PEOPLE UNDER THEM, BUT THERE'S NO WAY WE SEND IT TO ALL THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
I THINK THAT SENDING IT JUST TO THE, THE, UH, THE PEOPLE YOU'VE LISTED IS NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU THE RESULTS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR QUOTE, EMPLOYEE MORALE.
YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR KEY LEADER MORALE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU, YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO DESCRIBE MY FORMER PRINCIPAL TO DECIDE MY MORALE.
I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY SPEAKING FOR ME EITHER.
THEN WE'LL JUST ASK FOR KEY MORALE.
SHOULDN'T THE CSC COORDINATOR BE ON THIS LIST, THEN CHILD SERVICES, CSA CFA.
I'M YOU SAY DEPARTMENTS, DEPARTMENT.
I KNOW IT'S JESSICA, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PRONOUNCE HER LAST NAME WITHOUT DOING IT WRONG.
I WAS TRYING TO JUST DO THE ONES THAT REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
AND IF SHE DOES THAT, WE CAN INCLUDE HER.
WELL, SHE REPORTS TO THE FINANCE DIRECTOR.
SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AN ASSESSMENT OF, OF
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DR.IS THAT REALLY WHAT THIS IS ABOUT? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING.
NO, IT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT.
CAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL HAVE TALKED ABOUT AS FAR AS WANTING TO HAVE A GAUGE ON THE MORALE STAFF AND THIS WOULD BE SENIOR STAFF AND THE SENIOR STAFF.
HOW DO YOU RATE THE INTERIM ADMINISTRATORS PERFORMANCE? YES.
THAT'S ONE OF THE FEW OR ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I'VE BEEN INCLUDED ON THAT.
I ALSO SAID, HOW DO YOU, UH, UH, NOT ONLY DID I ASK FOR THEIR EVALUATION OR THOUGHTS ON THE INTERIM TOWN MANAGER ALSO ASKED FOR THEIR THOUGHTS ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
SO TO ME, I TRIED TO MAKE IT AS ALL ENCOMPASSING AS POSSIBLE.
AND THAT'S WHY I SAID, I THINK IF THERE'S OTHER QUESTIONS THAT THE REST OF THE BOARD WANTS TO ADD, FEEL FREE TO, AND I DON'T SEE WHERE, YOU KNOW, IN MY OPINION, ANY QUESTION THAT YOU ARE MISSING COLORS OR, OR THE OTHERS WANT TO ADD, IT'S NOT DEBATABLE.
THOSE ARE QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANT TO SEND TO, UH, AND GET HONEST, COMPLETE FEEDBACK WITHOUT THE FEAR OF, UH, OF A, WHAT'S THE WORD YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? WHAT'S THAT ALWAYS THE WORD YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
I WE'RE LOOKING WHILE YOU'VE BEEN TALKING.
UM, I THINK YOU SHOULD BE A LITTLE CAREFUL WITH THIS BECAUSE I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THIS INFORMATION WOULDN'T BE SUBJECT TO FOYA THE SURVEY RESULT.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM EITHER BECAUSE I MEAN, THIS BOARD HERE WANTS TO BE TRANSPARENT AND THIS HERE WOULD MAKE IT TRANSPARENT.
SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THAT WAS ANOTHER THING I HAD TO WAS ONCE WE GOT IT BACK.
AND YOU'VE KIND OF ANSWERED THAT, UH, SINCE IT DOES KIND OF DEAL WITH PERSONNEL IN SOME RESPECTS, MAYBE NOT SPECIFICALLY, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU'D GO INTO CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS? I MEAN, WE DO HAVE A PERSONNEL COMMITTEE TALK ABOUT, YOU COULD TALK ABOUT THE SURVEY RESULT IN CLOSED SESSION, BUT IF A CITIZEN MADE A FOYER REQUEST FOR THIS INFORMATION, THEN DECIDED TO PUT IT ON THEIR WEBSITE.
I'VE JUST SPENT A COUPLE MINUTES LOOKING AT FOYA AND I CAN'T FIND AN IMMEDIATE EXEMPTION TO IT.
AND IF YOU'VE TOLD YOUR EMPLOYEES THAT, HEY, THIS IS CONFIDENTIAL.
AND THEN IT ENDS UP IN A NEWSPAPER THAT WE LOOK A LITTLE SILLY.
SO I, I TELL YOU SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW WITH JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES THAT IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO FOIL.
I THINK IT PROBABLY IS SUBJECT TO FOYA AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME OTHER EXEMPTION.
I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
UM, BUT I WOULD JUST BE CAREFUL WITH THIS.
I THINK GIVEN ALL THE CONCERNS WE NEED TO TABLE THIS TABLE WORK SESSION.
WE NEED TO TABLE THIS AND COME AT THIS AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
THIS IS WAY TOO MUCH TOO FAST THAT WE TABLE THIS UNTIL JANUARY OF 2021.
I SECOND IT ANY ADDITION? YEAH.
I HAVE A SOMEWHAT OF A DISAGREEING WITH MR. HAM AS FAR AS CONFIDENTIAL IS CONFIDENTIAL.
AS FAR AS THE EMPLOYEES MAKING THEIR COMMENTS, AS FAR AS IT BEING OPEN, THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE.
BUT THERE, AGAIN, MY MAIN THING WAS TO PROTECT THE, UH, THE, UH, EMPLOYEES ANONYMITY.
SO, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID TOO, AND THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, LIKE I SAID, CAN WE GO INTO A CLOSED SESSION AND TALK ABOUT IT AS FAR AS THE MOTION? I MEAN, THAT'S THE THING TOO.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RUSHING AND RUSHING AND RUSHING.
IT SEEMED LIKE TO ME, IF WE AT LEAST GET THIS SURVEY STARTED, WE WOULD HAVE THE RESULTS BY THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, THEN WE'D HAVE SOMETHING TO FURTHER DISCUSS IN JANUARY.
AND I WOULDN'T THINK THAT, I DON'T KNOW, I WOULDN'T THINK WE WERE GOING CLOSE SESSIONS TO DISCUSS THIS AGAIN.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE COULD BE ADDED.
AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THE OFFER WAS THAT ANYBODY CAN PUT THEIR OWN QUESTIONS IN THERE TO, UH, FORGIVE, RESPOND, UH, RESPONSIVE, UH, FEEDBACK FROM, FROM THE EMPLOYEES, THE KEY STAFF, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
JUST ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION OTHER THAN TONY AND THE MOTION IS TO TABLE TO JANUARY 20, 22 OR 2021, CORRECT? CORRECT.
UH, MR. ROCKY, COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. CARTER AND BY VOTING? NO, IT MEANS THAT WE COULD TAKE IT UP SOONER.
AND MR. CHAIRMAN FOR ME CLOSED SESSION, I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET TO MY COMPUTER, BUT MR. HAM HAD
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AN ADDITION TO THE CLOSED SESSION THAT HE WANTED TO ADD.SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LET HIM READ THAT MOTION TO YOU.
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MR. HANNAH, DID YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND READ THAT MOTION AND YOU BRING HIM BACK? YES, I DO.UM, SO THIS WOULD TAKE THE PLACE OF THE SECOND OF PARAGRAPH OF THE MOTION.
SO WHOEVER'S GOING TO READ THE REST OF IT.
WOULD IT BE CONVENIENT IF I READ ALL THREE AND THEN SOMEONE AT THE END COULD SAY SO MOVED, ALL RIGHT, THIS WILL BE THE MOTION I MOVE THAT BOARD ENTER INTO A CLOSED MEETING UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 2.2 37, 1181 OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, BUT THE DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ASSIGNMENT, APPOINTMENT, PROMOTION, PERFORMANCE, DEMOTION SALARIES, AND RESIGNATION OF A SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICER OF THE PUBLIC BODY.
A FURTHER DISCUSSION BE LIMITED TO THE BOARD OF BUILDING CODE APPEALS, THE BROADBAND COMMITTEE, OR IF YOU COMMITTEE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF SHENANDOAH FARMS AND THE SHANANDOAH WOODS SANITARY DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
I ALSO MOVED THE BOARD INTO HER INTO A CLOSED MEETING OUT OF THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 2.2 37, 1187 AND EIGHT OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM INFORMATION ACT FOR CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL PERTAINING TO ACTUAL OR PROBABLE LITIGATION WHERE THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING, AND THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING GOLF CART COURSE USE AND LEASE MATTERS.
I FURTHER MOVE THE DISCUSSION, BE LIMITED TO THE COUNTY OF WARREN VERSUS ERIC VERSUS THOMAS, ERIC ROSELAND AT ALS AND GOLF COURSE USE AND LEASE MATTERS.
FINALLY, I MOVE THE BOARD ENTER INTO A CLOSED MEETING UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 2.2 37, 1187 AND EIGHT OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT FOR CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL WERE PERTAINING TO ACTUAL PROBABLE LITIGATION AND THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.
NOW THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL AND THE COUNTY OF WARREN VIRGINIA, OPEN PARENTHESES, THE EDA CLOSED CURRENCIES, THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL, THE EDA VERSUS JENNIFER MCDONALD, AND NOW THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL VERSUS THE EDA AT AL AND OTHER POTENTIAL CLAIMS AND LITIGATION RELATED TO OTHER POSSIBLE LIABILITIES OF THE EDA AND THE RECOVERY OF EDA, ASSED FUNDS AND ASSETS.
AND SO IF SOMEONE COULD SAY SO MOVE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.
COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. FOX, MS. COLORS, MR. CHAIRMAN, MS. OATS, MR. CARTER, WE ARE IN CLOSED SESSION.
I MOVE THAT THE BOARD CERTIFIES TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE OF PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS, LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER SECTIONS 2.2 DASH 37 11, A ONE 87 AND EIGHT OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSE MEETING WAS CONVENED WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING BY THE PUBLIC BODY.
SECOND ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ROLL CALL PLEASE.
MR. CARTER, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MISSED HER THOUGHTS.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE TO THE BOARD OF, UM, THE BROADBAND COMMITTEE, THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS, UM, RAVE RAMBLE FOR SOUTH RIVER, BONNIE GABBERT FOR FORK DISTRICT ROBERT HENKIN FOR NORTH RIVER.
UH, COULD I GET A ROLL CALL MR. FOX? HI, MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. CARTER, JUST REMINDER.
I DO NEED FROM MR. CARTER AND MR. MAYBE, UH, YOUR DISTRICTS.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UM, TO NOMINATE THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS TO THE SHANNON WOODS SANITARY DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UM, MARTHA WHITMEYER FOR ONE YEAR TERM, HER TERM ENDING IN 2021, DECEMBER, 2021.
UH, BRIANNA POWELL AND KATHLEEN JOHNSON, WHOSE TERMS WILL END ON DECEMBER IN DECEMBER OF 2022.
AND THEN BRIAN BLODGETT, WHO WILL REMAIN, UM, A MEMBER AT LARGE FOR AN INDEFINITE PERIOD OF TIME.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND DISCUSSION ROLL CALL, PLEASE? THIS YOU'RE OFF.
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MAINE CALLERS.UM, THE BILL BOARD BUILDING CODE APPEALS.
UH, AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE PAUL CASTLE FOR THE BOARD OF BUILDING CODE APPEALS FOR A VACANT TERM THAT EXPIRES NINE 30, 20, 24.
I SECOND IT ANY DISCUSSION ROLL CALL PLEASE.