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AND GENTLEMEN, IT'S SIX 59.I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE, PLEASE.
[A. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America]
I LIKED THE CALL, THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, JANUARY 19TH ORDER.AT THIS MOMENT, I'D LIKE TO DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE ALL STAND
[B. Adoption of Agenda – Additions or Deletions]
THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO DO THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THAT.
WE ADOPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
MRS. SHIRAKI WE HAVE IN ADDITION, UH, YES, DR.
DALEY WAS GOING TO MENTION THIS, BUT WE HAVE AN ADDITION OF ITEM, M ONE, IT'S A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT WITH THE WAR AND MEMORIAL HOSPITAL FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF VACCINES THAT IS AT YOUR PLACE AT THE DIOCESE, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE ITEM
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA WITH THE ADDITION OF
[C. Public Comment Period (60 Minute Time Limit)]
COMMENT PERIOD, WHICH IS A 60 MINUTE PERIOD FOR THE PUBLIC TO GIVE INPUT ON ITEMS WHICH ARE ON THIS AGENDA, BUT NOT THE SUBJECT OF A PUBLIC HEARING.AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE PUBLIC OF OUR CONDUCT GUIDELINES.
ALL COMMENTS WILL BE DIRECTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND NOT TO THE AUDIENCE.
PLEASE BE CONSIDERATE OF YOUR FELLOW SPEAKERS.
THERE SHOULD BE NO APPLAUSE, BOOING OR OTHER AUDIBLE DISRUPTIONS TO THE PROCEEDINGS.
I MAY ASK FOR A SHOW OF SUPPORT FOR COMMENTS MADE BY THE SPEAKERS, PLACARDS POSTERS, AND OTHER MEANS OF VISUAL DISPLAY OF COMMENTS WILL NOT BE PERMITTED IN THE BOARD MEETING ROOM.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE INFORMATION OF MATERIALS USED AS PART OF A FACTUAL PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD AT THE HEARING.
THE BOARD WILL NOT TOLERATE PERSONAL TAX BY ANYONE ON ANY OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROCEEDINGS.
ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THE GUIDELINES OR THE PUBLIC COMMENT TIME MAY BE ASKED TO LEAVE.
WHEN YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM, WE'D LIKE FOR YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND BECAUSE OF THE COVID AND TRYING TO BE AS, UM, CONSCIOUS TO EVERYONE'S HEALTH AS POSSIBLE, WE HAVE SOME WIPES UP HERE.
AND WHEN YOU'RE FINISHED SPEAKING, IF YOU'D WIPE IT OFF THIS TRASH AND TO DROP IT IN, WE'D APPRECIATE THAT.
JUST TRYING TO BE AS SAFE WITH THE PUBLIC AS WE CAN BE ALSO BECAUSE WE HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE THAT LIKE TO SPEAK.
WE'RE GOING TO ADHERE VERY CLOSELY TO THAT THREE MINUTE GUIDELINE.
WE WANT TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE TO SPEAK.
WE ALSO HAVE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WILL START AT SEVEN 30.
SO IF WE GET THERE AND ALL THE PEOPLE HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, WE'LL STOP.
WE'LL DO OUR PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE'LL PICK UP AND WHATEVER TIME TO MAKE THAT 60 MINUTES WE WILL ADHERE TO.
SO AT THIS TIME, MRS. SHIRAKI HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE SIGNED UP? SO MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE AT LEAST EIGHT INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP ON THIS SHEET.
THERE ARE OTHER SHEETS IN CIRCULATION, IN THE HALLWAY.
AND MS. MELANIE SAILINGS HAS INFORMED ME THAT THERE ARE 22 SPEAKERS.
EACH WILL BE READING OUT ONE PARAGRAPH OF THE RESOLUTION.
WELL, I ALSO HAVE SEVERAL EMAILS FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT I WILL BE READING AS WELL.
SO DO YOU WANT TO READ THE EMAILS TO BEGIN WITH? YES.
AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PEOPLE WHO'VE SIGNED UP.
SO THE FIRST EMAIL IS FROM CAROL CUTBACK OF NINE THREE FIVE COLEBROOK LANE.
PLEASE SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION TO DECLARE WARREN COUNTY A SANCTUARY OF FREEDOM.
THE NEXT EMAIL IS FROM TOM MCFADDEN, ONE FOUR, ONE EIGHT VIRGINIA
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AVENUE.PLEASE SUPPORT THE FREEDOM RESOLUTION ON TUESDAY.
AND THEN HE SAID DEATHS TO DO TO LOCK DOWN AND INCLUDED A LINK FROM IF STUDIES.ORG.
WE HAVE AN EMAIL FROM HUGH OWEN, NO ADDRESS PROVIDED SUPPORT.
THE FREEDOM RESOLUTION DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION.
WE HAVE AN EMAIL FROM MANUEL VICENTE, FIVE 41, ERIK COURT SANCTUARY OF FREEDOM.
I CONCUR FULLY IT'S ABOUT TIME, A RESOLUTION TO DECLARE WARREN COUNTY A SANCTUARY OF FREEDOM FROM NORTH HYMNS DICTATORSHIP AND VOODOO SCIENCE WILL BE BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS NEXT TUESDAY.
AN EMAIL FROM TIM AND GENE HART, 15 RIVER LAKES DRIVE STRAUSBERG, PLEASE DECLARE WARREN COUNTY CONSTITUTIONAL SANCTUARY AN EMAIL FROM RAYMOND FRANCIS.
I IS THE WAY FOR THE CONSTITUTIONAL COUNTY SANCTUARY RESOLUTION.
AN EMAIL FROM BILLY ROBINSON, NO ADDRESS PROVIDED.
I JUST WANTED TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THE CONSTITUTIONAL COUNTY RESOLUTION THAT WILL BE BROUGHT FORTH TO THE BOARD THIS TUESDAY EVENING.
I AM UNABLE TO ATTEND, BUT MYSELF, ALONG WITH MANY PEOPLE, I KNOW SUPPORT THIS VERY MUCH.
I HOPE YOU AND THE REST OF THE BOARD WILL PASS THIS IN THE SAME SPIRIT.
AS THE TWO WAY SANCTUARY WAS PASSED IN 2019, THE STAND AGAINST TYRANNY HAS TO START AT THE LOCAL LEVEL NEXT.
AND I APOLOGIZE IF I MISPRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME IS ROMA.
NUUK FROM FOUR SIX ONE TIMBER RIDGE DRIVE.
I LIVE IN THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL.
I AM ONE OF THOSE CONCERNS, CITIZENS THAT PLAN TO PRESENT A CONSTITUTIONAL COUNTY SANCTUARY RESOLUTION TO THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON JANUARY 19TH AT 7:00 PM.
OUR INTENTION IS TO ENSURE THE SECURITY OF SMALL BUSINESSES IN THESE UNCERTAIN TIMES, BY REINFORCING THE FREEDOMS, WHICH HAVE ALREADY BEEN ALLOTTED TO US IN OUR VIRGINIA CONSTITUTION.
NEXT IS FROM TOM MCFADDEN JR OF FOUR 61 STONE GATE LANE.
AS A 20 YEAR WARREN COUNTY RESIDENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO URGE YOU TO VOTE FOR THE RESOLUTION, PROMOTING FREEDOM IN WARREN COUNTY AND ALLOWING THIS COUNTY TO BE A SANCTUARY FROM THE REIGN OF TERROR THAT GOVERNOR NORTHAM HAS IMPOSED ON THE CITIZENS OF VIRGINIA.
NEXT IS AN EMAIL FROM JOHN HEIGHT, 600 SHENANDOAH VALLEY DRIVE AS A TAXPAYING HOMEOWNER IN WARREN COUNTY.
I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE DISMISS THE ABSURD UPCOMING FREEDOM RESOLUTION TO BE PROPOSED TO THE BOARD IN THE USA AND IN OUR COMMONWEALTH, WE CANNOT HAVE INDIVIDUAL COUNTIES TAKE IT UPON OURSELVES TO BREAK AWAY FROM THE STATE AND DECLARE THAT LAWFUL EMERGENCY HEALTH ORDERS BY OUR GOVERNOR ARE TO BE IGNORED, OVERRIDDEN AND UNENFORCED.
PLEASE VOTE NO HOPING TO GOD THAT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND THEIR FAMILIES DO NOT CONTRACT DO NOT CONTRACT DEADLY.
COVID-19 FROM THE SELFISH PATRIOTS WHO IGNORE AND DENIGRATE TEMPORARY SOCIAL DISTANCING IN OUR COUNTY.
AND LASTLY, FROM ANNA HOPKINS, SIX, SEVEN, FOUR MCCOY'S FORD ROAD, I BELIEVE SHE MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT THE RESOLUTION WAS TONIGHT BECAUSE SHE STATES I UNDERSTAND THAT TONIGHT, THE TOPIC MAY COME UP ABOUT WARREN COUNTY BECOMING A RELIGIOUS FREEDOM SANCTUARY.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT RELIGIOUS FREEDOM IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FREEDOM WE CAN HAVE SINCE IT WOULD ALSO COVER FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND THE RIGHTS WE HAVE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION.
I LIVE IN THE FOURTH DISTRICT.
THOSE ARE ALL THE EMAILS, MADAM CHAIR.
CHAIRMAN ASKED THE QUESTION, WHAT IS THE PROTOCOL? ARE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM SUPPOSED TO WEAR A MASK OR NOT? AND THAT'S YOUR CALL THERE AGAIN? I WOULD DEFER MAYBE TO, UH, MR. HAM, IF YOU RECALL, DOES ANYONE HERE HAVE, THAT HAS NOT, IS NOT WEARING A MASK.
DO YOU HAVE A VALID HEALTH REASON FOR NOT WEARING A MASK? YOU'RE REQUIRED? MR. HAM WITH MY UNDERSTANDING IS MEDICAL EXEMPTION AND EVERYONE IS SIX FEET APART FROM SOMEONE THAT IS NOT A FAMILY MEMBER, EXCEPT FOR IN THE HALL.
THE HALL IS FULL OF PEOPLE, NOT SICK, PLENTY OF ROOM IN HERE.
YOU'RE NOT LETTING ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE IN.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE ORDER 72 PROVIDES THAT EVERYBODY IS SUPPOSED TO WEAR A MASK.
THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS, THE PERTINENT EXCEPTION IS PERSONS WITH HEALTH CONDITIONS OR DISABILITIES THAT PROHIBIT WEARING A FACE COVERING.
SO WE'RE WITHIN ALL THE MANDATES, THEN WE'RE NOT BREAKING ANY RULES.
AND I THINK THEY JUST TOLD YOU THIS, THEY HAVE HEALTH CONDITIONS THAT PROHIBIT THEM
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WEARING A FACE COVERING THAN THEY WOULD, IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN THEY ARE EXEMPT FROM THIS ORDER.WE'RE GROWING UNDER WHAT OUR LEGAL WITH THE COMMONWEALTH OF, UM, ATTORNEY HAS GIVEN US, CORRECT MR. DR.
SO YES, MA'AM SO WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING THE BEST OF THIS SITUATION WE CAN BY DOING WITHIN THE GUIDELINES WE'VE BEEN GIVEN.
SO MR. CARTER, THAT THEY ARE WITHIN THE RIGHT TO BE WITHOUT MASK, ACCORDING TO THE MANDATES YOU TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
SO IF I'M GOING TO FOLLOW THE LAW, THEN THAT'S WHAT IT'S AT.
SO, UM, MRS. SHIRAKI, IF YOU WOULD CALL THE FIRST PERSON, PLEASE, WE HAVE MELANIE SAILINGS AND HILLARY HORNER, WHO I BELIEVE WILL ALSO BE INTRODUCING 22 SPEAKERS TO READ ONE PARAGRAPH EACH OF THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD.
YOUR TIME WILL START AFTER YOU ANNOUNCED YOUR NAME SO THAT EVERYONE HAS EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES.
UM, DO YOU NEED YOU TO MAINTAIN THIS THE SIX FEET? AND YOU'RE GOING TO ONE IN ONE OUT TO MAINTAIN THE NUMBER IN THE ROOM.
SO WE DID PARAGRAPH THING SO THAT HOPEFULLY YOU WEREN'T GOING TO GET BOGGED DOWN WITH ALL OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AS WELL.
LYNN'S DO YOU HAVE, IS THIS THE COPY OF WHAT YOU'RE READING OR DO YOU HAVE UPDATED? COPY.
I HAVE AN UPDATED, I HAVE AN UPDATED COPY HERE.
HE CAN, HE CAN HAVE MINE IF HE WANTS IT AND I'LL, I'LL GET IT.
OR 22 PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE TIME.
SO IF WE COULD GET STARTED, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
ALL RIGHT, MELANIE, SALEM'S 95.
WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY TO RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR HELP.
THIS LAST YEAR HAS HURT CITIZENS OF WARREN COUNTY.
WE HAVE MANY BUSINESSES STRUGGLING TO STAY AFLOAT.
WE ARE SCARED OF WHAT IS TO COME.
WE ARE HERE TODAY TO PRESENT TO YOU A RESOLUTION TO BECOME A CONSTITUTIONAL SANCTUARY COUNTY AND FORMALLY REASSERT YOUR DEDICATION TO UPHOLDING THE CONSTITUTION AND OUR RIGHTS PROTECTED BY IT IN A BARON SIX, 10 RANDOLPH AVENUE AMENDMENT.
ONE OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS STATES, CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF OR ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH OR OF THE PRESS OR THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE PEACEABLY TO ASSEMBLE AND TO PETITION THE GOVERNMENT FOR A REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES.
AND IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE, MY NAME IS SARAH LIM.
I LIVE AT SEVEN 52 APPLE ORCHARD DRIVE, LINDEN, VIRGINIA, TWO TWO SIX 14.
WHEREAS THE CONSTITUTION OF VIRGINIA ARTICLE ONE SECTION ONE STATES THAT ALL MEN ARE BY NATURE EQUALLY FREE AND INDEPENDENT AND HAVE CERTAIN INHERENT RIGHTS OF WHICH WHEN THEY ENTER INTO A STATE OF SOCIETY, THEY CANNOT BUY ANY COMPACT DEPRIVE OR DIVEST THEIR POSTERITY, NAMELY THE ENJOYMENT OF LIFE AND LIBERTY WITH THE MEANS OF ACQUIRING AND POSSESSING PROPERTY AND PURSUING AND OBTAINING HAPPINESS AND SAFETY.
WHEREAS THE CONSTITUTION OF VIRGINIA AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
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ONE 34 SCENIC DRIVE FRONT ROYAL.WHEREAS THE CONSTITUTION OF VIRGINIA ARTICLE ONE SECTION 12 STATES THAT THE FREEDOMS OF SPEECH AND OF THE PRESS ARE AMONG THE GREAT BULWARKS OF LIBERTY AND CAN NEVER BE RESTRAINED EXCEPT BY DESPOTIC GOVERNMENTS THAT ANY CITIZEN MAY FREELY SPEAK, WRITE AND PUBLISH HIS SENTIMENTS ON ALL SUBJECTS, BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ABUSE OF THAT, RIGHT? THAT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY SHALL NOT PASS ANY LAW ABRIDGING, THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH OR OF THE PRESS, NOR THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE PEACEABLY TO ASSEMBLE AND TO PETITION THE GOVERNMENT FOR THE REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES.
AND WHEREAS AMENDMENT FOUR OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS STATES, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO BE SECURE IN THEIR PERSONS, HOUSES, PAPERS, AND EFFECTS AGAINST UNREASONABLE SEARCHES AND SEIZURES SHALL NOT BE VIOLATED.
I LIVE AT 1360 WESTERN LANE, WHEREAS AMENDMENT EIGHT OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS STATES, NO EXECUTIVE FINE SHALL BE IMPOSED.
AND WHEREAS THE GOVERNOR IS CURRENTLY ATTEMPTING TO PROHIBIT THE GATHERING OF MORE THAN 10 CITIZENS AT A SINGLE TIME, EVEN IN THEIR OWN HOMES AND IS ATTEMPTING TO DO SO THROUGH EXECUTIVE ORDER RATHER THAN LEGISLATE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.
MIKE MAYER ONE ZERO EIGHT PEBBLE LANE.
WHEREAS THE GOVERNOR HAS PLACED UNDUE STRAIN ON LOCAL BUSINESSES WHILE ARBITRARILY ILLOGICALLY AND UNEQUALLY RESTRICTING SOME BUSINESSES MORE THAN OTHERS AND IS ATTEMPTING TO DO SO THROUGH EXECUTIVE ORDER RATHER THAN THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.
AND WHEREAS THE GOVERNOR HAS ATTEMPTED TO PUT BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY IN THE IMPOSSIBLE POSITION OF ENFORCING HIS ORDERS AND HAS IN THE PROCESS RESTRICT RESTRICTED FREE COMMERCE AND HAS INSTITUTED EXCESSIVE FINES FOR BUSINESSES, UNABLE OR UNWILLING TO ACT AS QUOTE UNQUOTE LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR HIS UNDER LEGISLATED ORDERS UPON CUSTOMERS AND ANDREW ANDREW SNYDER FIVE OH SEVEN GRAND VIEW DRIVE.
WHEREAS THE GOVERNOR HAS RESTRICTED THE LIBERTY OF CITIZENS BY IMPOSING LOCKDOWNS AND CURFEWS.
AND WHEREAS THE GOVERNOR HAS ALLUDED TO THE POSSIBILITY OF ENACTING FURTHER EXTRA LEGISLATIVE ORDERS AND PETER ROMANCZUK 2192 STRAUSBERG GROWED FRONT ROYAL.
WHEREAS THIS ORDER IN THE OPINION OF THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CLEARLY VIOLATES THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CONSTITUTION OF VIRGINIA.
AND WHEREAS THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DOES NOT RECOGNIZE THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER PURSUANT TO THE CONSTITUTION OF VIRGINIA ARTICLE ONE, SECTION TWO, WHICH STATES QUOTE THAT ALL POWER IS VESTED IN AND CONSEQUENTLY DERIVED FROM THE PEOPLE THAT MAGISTRATES ARE THEIR TRUSTEES AND SERVANTS.
AND AT ALL TIMES AMENABLE TO THEM AND QUOTE LIKE SALADS 95 MURDERS DRIVE.
WHEREAS THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WISHES TO EXPRESS ITS DEEP COMMITMENT TO THE FREEDOMS ENUMERATED IN THE BILL OF RIGHTS, INCLUDING THE RIGHTS OF ALL CITIZENS OF WARREN COUNTY TO PEACEFULLY ASSEMBLE AND TO ENGAGE IN COMMERCE FOR THE FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES.
AND WHEREAS THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WISHES TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO ANY ORDER OR LAW THAT WOULD UNCONSTITUTIONALLY RESTRICT THE RIGHTS OF THE CITIZENS OF WARREN COUNTY AND SARAH MCFADDEN, 1418 VIRGINIA AVENUE.
WHEREAS THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WISHES TO EXPRESS ITS INTENT TO STAND AS A SANCTUARY COUNTY FOR THE BILL OF RIGHTS AND THE STATES AND THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, ANY EFFORTS TO UNCONSTITUTIONALLY RESTRICT SUCH RIGHTS AND DO SUCH LEGAL MEANS AT ITS DISPOSAL TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF THE CITIZENS OF WARREN COUNTY, TO FREELY EXERCISE THEIR RELIGION, TO PEACEFULLY ASSEMBLE, TO FREELY ENGAGE IN COMMERCE, TO FREE MOVEMENT OF PERSONS AND ANY OTHER INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY RECOGNIZED AS BELONGING TO THE PEOPLE.
WHEREAS THE MEANS WITHIN THE POWER OF THE WARREN COUNTY SUPERVISORS INCLUDES THE POWER TO INITIATE LEGAL ACTION.
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POWER TO PETITION FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES, THE POWER TO APPROPRIATE FUNDING FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OF WARREN COUNTY AND THE POWER TO DIRECT EMPLOYEES OF WARREN COUNTY TO NOT ENFORCE ANY UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAW OR A PURPORTED ORDER.AND NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED JOSHUA INGRAM FOUR ZERO SIX WARREN AVENUE FRONT ROYAL.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF WARREN COUNTY, VIRGINIA WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL VIGOROUSLY SEARCH FOR SOLUTIONS THAT PROTECT ITS RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES FROM ALL PURPORTED LAWS, EXECUTIVE ORDERS, REGULATIONS, RESOLUTIONS, AND ANY OTHER DECREE OR ACTION THAT IN THE OPINION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS VIOLATE THE US CONSTITUTION.
THE VIRGINIA CONSTITUTION DID US AND VIRGINIA BILL OF RIGHTS AND ANY OTHER DULY ENACTED LAW.
AND AMBER MORRIS, THREE FIVE SEVEN FOUR HOUSE BILL ROAD FOR OUR OIL AND THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, HEREBY DECLARE WARREN COUNTY, VIRGINIA AS A CONSTITUTIONAL SANCTUARY COUNTY AND EXPRESSES ITS INTENT TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION AND OTHER CLEARLY ESTABLISHED RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE OF WARREN COUNTY, VIRGINIA.
I AM, I LIVE ON 28, 59 GARDE HILL ROAD.
UM, THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, HEREBY EXPRESSES ITS INTENT THAT NO WARREN COUNTY FUNDS WILL BE USED TO RESTRICT THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND OTHER CLEARLY ESTABLISHED RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE OF WARREN COUNTY.
AND IT, NO COUNTY FUNDS SHALL BE EXPENDED TO AID, FEDERAL OR STATE AGENCIES IN THE RESTRICTION OF SAID RIGHTS.
HI, I'M MICHELLE
OKAY? NO WARREN COUNTY EMPLOYEES, GOVERNMENT FUNDS, RESOURCES, AGENCIES, CONTRACTORS, BUILDINGS, DETENTION CENTERS, OR OFFICES MAY BE USED FOR THE PURPOSE OF ENFORCING LAWS THAT UNCONSTITUTIONALLY INFRINGE ON THE BILL OF RIGHTS, CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, AND OTHER CLEARLY ESTABLISHED RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE.
HI, I'M HILLARY HORNER, SIX, 10 RANDOLPH AVENUE.
THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SUPPORTS SUPPORTS LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT WHO SUPPORT THE CLEARLY ESTABLISHED RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE AND REQUESTS A SHERIFF TO NOT ASSIST ANY STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER STATE HEALTH AGENT, OR FEDERAL AGENT ATTEMPTING TO ENFORCE ANY UNCONSTITUTIONAL ORDER OF THE GOVERNOR.
WARREN COUNTY EMPLOYEES MAY NOT ASSIST IN OR PROMOTE THE ENFORCEMENT OF ANY EXECUTIVE ORDER OR REGULATION THAT PURPORTS TO LIMIT OR DIRECT THE FREE EXERCISE OF RELIGION, PEACEABLE ASSEMBLY, FREE ENGAGEMENT AND COMMERCE, FREE MOVEMENT OF PERSONS NOR ANY OTHER INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, WHICH THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA RECOGNIZE AS BELONGING TO THE PEOPLE THAT CONCLUDES OUR RESOLUTION READING.
BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY ASK IF YOU COULD PEEK OUT INTO THE HALLWAY AND SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DENIED THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TONIGHT IN NOT BEING ALLOWED INTO THE ROOM.
THE HALLWAY IS LITERALLY FILLED PLEASE.
THEY, THEY DESERVE TO BE SEEN MADAM CHAIR.
I BELIEVE WE WERE PLANNING ON DOING A ONE FOR ONE SO THAT IF WE REACHED CAPACITY IN HERE, ONE PERSON GOES OUT.
THE NEXT COMES IN TO ALLOW EVERYBODY THEIR PROPER TIME TO SPEAK.
SO, UH, MRS. SCHROCK, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT PERSON ON THE LIST, WE HAVE KRISTA ADAMANT, KRISTA 90 17 STONEWALL JACKSON HIGHWAY.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH IS? ACCORDING TO THE CDC, HEART DISEASE THAN CANCER,
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NOT CORONAVIRUS.WHERE ARE THE MANDATES ON ALCOHOL AND CIGARETTES AS WELL AS SODA? REMEMBER WHEN DOCTORS USED TO POSE AN ADVERTISEMENTS FOR CIGARETTES? REMEMBER WHEN DDT WAS SPRAYED ON EVERYTHING DURING THE PANT, THE POLIO EPIDEMIC, DO YOU KNOW THE ADVERSE REACTIONS TO DDT? THEY LOOK ALONG LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE.
MR. CEO, IF YOU COULD GET THEM TO QUIET DOWN, WE CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING.
DO YOU KNOW THE ADVERSE REACTIONS TO DDT? THEY LOOK A LOT LIKE POLIO.
I'M WILLING TO MAKE AN EDUCATED GUESS THAT SUICIDES AND OVERDOSES ARE AT AN ALL TIME HIGH, BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE COVID NARRATIVE IN THE MOCKINGBIRD MEDIA.
IT'S NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S JOB TO DICTATE.
WHAT'S GOOD OR WHAT'S BAD FOR ME.
THERE'S A LONG LIST OF EXPERIMENTS.
THE GOVERNMENT CONDUCTED ON ITS OWN PEOPLE, TUSKEGEE EXPERIMENT, JUST TO NAME ONE.
WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT I DEEM IS GOOD FOR MY FAMILY, OR MAYBE WHAT NOT WHAT ISN'T GOOD CAFE MEANS BOSS IN SPANISH BECAUSE I'M HISPANIC AND I'M IN HISPANIC BEING LOVING AMERICAN.
AND THAT'S NOT RACIST AS ELECTED OFFICIALS.
EACH ONE OF YOU HAS A DUTY TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION.
GOD GIVES US OUR RIGHTS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US FROM THE BABY JUST FORMED TO THE ONE DYING ON THE DAY THEY ARE CALLED BY GOD HIMSELF.
I PRAY TO GOD THAT YOU RECOGNIZE WHAT'S GOING ON AND PROTECT EACH COUNTRY.
EACH COUNTY RESIDENTS, FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO WORSHIP GOD TO PROTECT THEIR FREE SPEECH, THEIR RIGHT TO PEACEABLY ASSEMBLE, AND ALSO TO PETITION GOVERNMENT FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES, AS WELL AS TO PROTECT OUR SECOND AMENDMENT AMENDMENT, RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. NOW I'LL QUOTE SECOND CORINTHIANS CHAPTER THREE, VERSE 16.
BUT WHEN A MAN TURNS TO THE LORD, THE VEIL IS REMOVED.
NOW THE LORD IS THE SPIRIT AND WHERE THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS.
AND WE ALL WITH UNVEILED FACE BEHOLDING, THE GLORY OF THE LORD ARE BEING CHANGED INTO HIS LIKENESS FROM THE DEGREE OF GLORY, FROM ONE DEGREE OF GLORY TO ANOTHER AND QUOTE, I PLACED MY TRUST IN GOD AND HIS WILL FOR MY LIFE.
AND I DO NOT LIVE WITH FEAR ALL MY LIFE.
THE ONLY THING I FEAR IS FINAL JUDGMENT.
WHAT WE DO IN THIS LIFE WILL BE JUDGED IN THE NEXT CHOOSE WISELY IS WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND US.
UNFOLDS HEALTH DOES NOT COME FROM A, FROM A VACCINE VILE.
IT DOES NOT COME FROM WEARING MASKS.
AND IT CERTAINLY DOES NOT COME FROM UNJUST MANDATES AND RESTRICTIONS BEING PLACED ON FREE AMERICAN CITIZENS IN ANY COUNTY, TOWN OR STATE.
I IMPLORE EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT AND WATCHING FROM HOME TO GO TO WORLD HEALTH ALLIANCE.ORG.
THERE'S A WHOLE PAGE DEDICATED TO THE MEDICAL DEBATE WITH WORLD RENOWNED RESEARCHERS, DOCTORS, SCIENTISTS, LAWYERS, AND LIKE PROFESSIONALS VOICING THE SCIENCE, WHICH HAS BEEN SILENCED AND CENSORED.
PLEASE DESIGNATE FRONT ROYAL WARREN COUNTY AS A CONSTITUTIONAL SANK SHANKS SANCTUARY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
UM, I WOULD SAY, EXCUSE ME, MADAM.
WE CAN NOT START THE PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE HOURS.
SO ANYWAY, WE CANNOT START THE PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE SEVEN 30 AND I WOULD SUGGEST TO ALLOW THE REST OF THE PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS TO CONTINUE BECAUSE IT IS 60 MINUTES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR FEELINGS ARE, BUT THERE AGAIN, I WOULD, I WOULD, UH, TALK TO THE REST OF THE BOARD AT LEAST TO CONTINUE THIS.
SO THESE GOOD PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK, THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO STAY FOR THE REST OF IT.
I THINK WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT.
WE DO HAVE PEOPLE HERE FROM PUBLIC HEARINGS, BUT WE HAD, WE STARTED THE PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS.
AND AGAIN, I WOULD SUGGEST LET THESE PEOPLE FINISH, SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO SAY.
IT MAY NOT BE THAT THAT LONGER.
WE DO NOT HAVE TO START IT BEFORE 30, BUT WE CAN START IT AFTERWARDS.
I APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION AND, BUT WE NEED TO KEEP THIS AT A MINIMUM SO WE CAN ALL BE HEARD IN THE TIMELINE.
HOW DOES THE BOARD FEEL? DO YOU WANT TO DO THE PUBLIC HEARING OR WOULD YOU WANT TO MOVE IN HERE? ANOTHER HALF AN HOUR? MADAM CHAIR? I WILL NOTE WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL SIX PEOPLE
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ON THIS LIST.EIGHT PEOPLE ON THIS LIST, EIGHT PEOPLE ON THIS LIST, EIGHT PEOPLE, EIGHT, NINE, 10, 11 PEOPLE ON THIS LIST.
AND ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10, 11, 12, 13 ON ANOTHER LIST.
SO THERE IS OVER 50 PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL SIGNED UP.
AGAIN, I'LL LOOK ON THE STANDPOINT.
THESE PEOPLE COME OUT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING OR THE PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS AND WE SHOULD LET THEM SPEAK AND THERE AGAIN, KEEPING IT ON THEIR TIMEFRAME, BUT THERE AGAIN, OKAY.
MR. CARTER, I'VE ASKED FOR THE REST OF THE BOARDS, HOW DO YOU FEEL? DO YOU WANT TO DO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS OR PUT THAT OFF FOR HAPPENING? WHAT'S THE, WITH THE REST OF THE BOARD, I WILL, I WILL CONCUR WITH THE REST OF THE BOARD AND THE FOLKS CAN SPEAK, LET THE PUBLIC, IT ENDS IN WHAT EIGHT, 8:00 PM BREAK THE STAFF IS, IS MRS. LOGAN IN THE BACK SO THAT THE, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT CAN PASS THAT ONTO THE PEOPLE ARE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I CAN'T TELL IF THEY CAN HEAR OR NOT, BUT I WILL INFORM MS. LOGAN, MADAM CHAIR.
NEXT ONE ON THE LIST THEN, AND PLEASE PUBLIC SO THAT EVERYONE CAN BE HEARD.
AS I SAID IN THE BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, NO OUTBURSTS, NO APPLAUDS, NO BREWING.
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD, YOU HAVE TO BE QUIET SO THAT THE PEOPLE CAN BE HEARD.
I DIDN'T HEAR MUCH OF WITNESS AD.
AND IT SAID AT THE BEGINNING, I'M SURE YOU DIDN'T EITHER.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, ROBERT
SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO NEED TO SEE ME FOR THE REST OF THE TIME HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UM, SO ALL OF US FIND OURSELVES IN A VERY UNIQUE TIME IN OUR COUNTRY, RIGHT IN OUR STATE HERE LOCALLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND WE FIND OURSELVES IN DIFFERENT SITUATIONS.
WE WORK FOR OTHER PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING PRETTY DESPERATE OUT THERE.
SOME OF US NOT SO MUCH, WE ALL HAVE A, A LINE IN THE SAND, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CROSS AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER.
UM, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON HOW DESPERATE WE GET AND, UH, THIS, THESE RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE PLACED US BY OUR GOVERNOR, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, UH, THEY AFFECT SOME OF US MORE THAN OTHERS, RIGHT? WE'RE, WE'RE PAINTING WITH A BROAD BRUSH AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A GOOD THING.
WE'VE LOST OUR INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM TO CHOOSE FOR OURSELVES, RIGHT? AND THAT'S, WHAT'S IMPORTANT HERE.
IF YOU GUYS FEEL THE NEED TO WEAR MASKS OR MASKS, IF YOU DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO WEAR A MASK, DON'T WEAR A MASK.
THIS THING HAS BEEN HIGHLY POLITICIZED FROM BOTH SIDES.
YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO TAKE THE POLITICAL NATURE OF THIS AND THROW IT AWAY AND START LOOKING AT THE FACTS.
THERE WAS A DANISH STUDY, DONE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO WORE MASKS AND WHO DIDN'T 0.3% OUT OF ALMOST 5,000 PEOPLE STUDIED.
SO, AND THEIR POPULATION DENSITY IS A LOT WORSE THAN OURS, MEANING MORE PEOPLE PER, PER SQUARE MILE.
RIGHT? SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE IN WARREN COUNTY, YOU KNOW, HAVE A PRETTY GOOD SITUATION HERE FOR THE MOST PART, UH, OTHER PLACES DON'T.
BUT, UM, SO I WOULD, I WOULD ASK THAT WE NOT BE PAINTED WITH A BROAD BRUSH THAT WE WERE ALLOWED TO CHOOSE AND HAVE OUR INDIVIDUAL FREEDOMS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT OUR BILL OF RIGHTS AND OUR CONSTITUTION DOESN'T SAY, WELL, YOU GET THESE RIGHTS UNLESS YOU'RE IN A PANDEMIC.
UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY, WHAT'S, UH, WHAT'S UPSETTING TO MYSELF AND A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE HERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESSES WHO ARE BASICALLY FORCED TO, YOU KNOW, UH, ENFORCE THIS, THIS, THESE MANDATES, WHICH A LOT OF SORT OF FEEL ARE UNJUST AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
THEY'RE NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT ORGANIZATIONS.
YOU GOT HEALTH INSPECTORS NOW WHO HAVE THE POWER OF THE GUY WEARING THE BADGE OVER THERE PRETTY MUCH.
AND I'VE SEEN VIDEOS POSTED ONLINE AND HOME HEALTH INSPECTOR SAY, I JUST HAVE A JOB TO DO NO KNOW THE RESTAURANT OWNERS.
THEY HAVE JOBS TO DO PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE RESTAURANTS.
THEY HAVE JOBS TO THE PEOPLE WHO CLEAN THEY HAVE JOBS TO DO.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DO ASK THAT YOU DO SUPPORT THE, UH, CONSTITUTIONAL SANCTUARY AMENDMENT THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, PLEASE HELP BE PART OF THE PEOPLE WHO STAND UP TO STOP THE MADNESS.
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IS IT TANG OR YANG? I'M SORRY.SHE IS ALSO THE INDIVIDUAL WHO PROVIDED YOU WITH THE FOLDERS AS WELL AS THE LOTUS THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU AT YOUR PLACE ON THE DYES.
STAND FOR PEOPLE, KEEP HIS OR HER HIGH MORAL STANDARD, EVEN IN THE BAD ENVIRONMENT, THE LOTUS FLOWER.
AND IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, THANK YOU.
I'M ORIGINALLY FROM CHINA, AND THEN NOW I LIVE IN
I'M VERY EXCITED TO ADDRESS YOU TODAY BECAUSE I COULD NEVER DO THIS IN CHINA.
THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE BECAUSE I'M A FALUN GONG PRACTITIONER.
FALUN GONG TEACHINGS, GENTLE EXERCISES, MEDITATION, AND THE PRINCIPLES ARE TRUTHFULNESS, COMPASSION, AND TOLERANCE.
IT HAS BENEFITED THE WHOLISTIC HEALTH OF MORE THAN 100 MILLION PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD IN JULY, 1999.
HOWEVER, THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY, THE CCP AUDIT THE ERADICATION OF FALLING GOAL.
COUNTLESS IN THE SENSE CHINESE WERE ARRESTED AND TORTURED JUST FOR TELLING PEOPLE THAT CHOOSE OUR FALLING GO, INCLUDING MY MOM.
SHE WAS ARRESTED SIX TIMES CANNOT GET A CHINESE PASSPORT.
THE PERSECUTION OF FALUN GONG HAS CONTINUED FOR THE PAST 21 YEARS.
THE US STATE DEPARTMENT HAS CITED CREDIBLE REPORTS THAT CCP HAS GONE SO FAR AS, AS CUTE.
AND THE CL THE ORGANS HAVE FALLEN GOLD PRACTITIONER.
CHINA HAS BECOME A MAJOR INTERNATIONAL CENTER FOR ORGAN TRANSPLANTS AND THE MANY AMERICA PATIENTS TRAVEL THERE FOR THIS PURPOSE.
IN FACT, IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA RESIDENT RECENTLY RECEIVE AN OFFER FROM CHANNEL OF A KIDNEY TRANSPLANT FOR HIS BROTHER FOR $50,000.
THE ISSUE OF FIRST THE ORGAN HARVESTING IN CHINA HAS BEEN UNDERREPORTED IN THE U S MEDIA AND THE, WE BELIEVE IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES AWARE OF EIGHT, FIVE AS CANTEEN AND THE SHANNONDELL CANTEEN PASSED RESOLUTIONS TO ADVOCATE THEIR CITIZENS.
I BOUGHT THE PRACTICE AND TODAY I ASK YOU TO FOLLOW THEIR EXAMPLE, PLEASE ENSURE DEALS AND PASSED A RESOLUTION TO RAISE AWARENESS OF FORCE THE ORGAN HARVESTING IN CHINA.
WE ARE SUBLIMATED PETITIONS FROM 100 LOCAL RESIDENTS IN SUPPORT.
AFTER THIS REQUEST, YOUR ACTION WILL PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF WARREN CONTIN AND ALSO HELP ALL THE CITIZENS TO REALIZE THE EVIL NATURE OF THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY, MALTA CHINESE TEA.
MADAM CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU THIS EVENING.
MY NAME IS MARK YANG, CHINESE AMERICAN CURRENTLY RESIDING IN A FAIRFAX COUNTY.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THE ISSUE OF FORCED ORGAN HARVESTING.
THE TINY JUST DESCRIBED SINCE 2006.
THERE HAS THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS ALLEGATIONS THAT A CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY OR THE CCP HAS ENGAGED IN THE MASS MURDER OF FOLLOWING HOME PRACTITIONERS TO SELL THEIR ORGANS FOR PROFIT.
THE CCP REQUIRES PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN CHINESE HOSPITALS AND VARIOUS PRISONS, LABOR CAMPS, AND CONCENTRATION CAMPS TO EXAMINE PRISONERS OF CONSCIENCE FOR ORGAN COMPATIBILITY.
THEN THERE WERE KILLED ON DEMAND TO SUPPLY AND EXTREMELY PROFITABLE TRANSPLANT ENTERPRISE.
THEIR BODIES WERE THEN CREMATED IN ATTEMPT TO HIDE THE EVIDENCE.
THE CCPS ATROCIOUS CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY HAS TAKEN THE ILLNESS IN LIVES OF MANUFACTURING AND
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PRACTITIONERS AND OTHER PERSON THERE'S OF CONSCIENCE, SUCH AS WEAKER MUSLIMS AND CHINESE CHRISTIANS.EITHER REASON, YEARS AS COUNTLESS NEW EVIDENCE SURFACE.
THE PROBLEM OF FORCED ORGAN HARVESTING HAS GAINED MORE INTERNATIONAL ATTENTION, RESOLUTIONS PASSING THE EU AND THE US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPRESS CONCERN AND CONDEMN THE STATE SANCTIONED PRACTICE OF FORCED ORGAN HARVESTING FROM FALLING ON PRACTITIONERS AND OTHER ETHICAL AND SPIRITUAL MINORITIES.
OTHER COUNTRIES SUCH AS SPAIN, ITALY, AND BELGIUM HAVE PASSED LEGISLATIONS WITH CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST ILLEGAL ORGAN TRANSPLANT PRACTICES, ESPECIALLY THOSE FROM CHINA.
UNFORTUNATELY, DESPITE THESE INTERNATIONAL EFFORTS, MANY PEOPLE ARE STILL ON THE AWARE OF THIS ISSUE DUE TO VERY MINIMAL MEDIA ATTENTION.
MANY WERE TEMPTED BY THE EXTREMELY SHORT WAITING TIME AND LOW PRICES OF TRANSPLANTS IN CHINA, WHERE IN THE FREE WORLD, WAIT TIME FOR A MATCHING KIDNEY OR LIVER CAN EASILY TAKE SEVERAL YEARS, BUT IN CHINA THEY CAN SUPPLY A MATCH IN A MATTER OF WEEKS.
BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE FINDING OUT AFTER THE FACT THAT YOUR NEW ORGAN WAS TAKEN FROM A PERSON WHO HAD BEEN IN PRISON FOR HIS RELIGIOUS BELIEF AND THEN EXECUTED.
SO THE CCP COULD SELL HIS OREGON, IMAGINE HOW THAT WILL AFFECT OUR RECOVERY AND FUTURE HEALTH WAS A SITTING IN YOUR CONSCIOUS FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.
SO I HOPE AND URGE THE BOARD TO CONSIDER PASSING A RESOLUTION IN A WARREN COUNTY, FALLING IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF THE U S HOUSE RESOLUTION 340, LIKE THE FAIRFAX COUNTY AND SHENANDOAH COUNTY TO ALERT OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS ABOUT THIS ISSUE SO THAT THEY MAY MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS BEFORE TRAVELING TO CHINA FOR ORGAN TRANSPLANTS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SARAH LYNN, SHE WAS ALSO ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO READ ONE OF THE PARAGRAPHS IN THE RESOLUTION.
UM, AMOS, MITCHELL, AMOS, MITCHELL, MITCHELL.
UH, THOMAS ONES, ROBBIE SEAL, THOMAS KELLY, CRAIG ANDERSON, CRAIG ANDERSON ONE 10 SUNSET LANE, LINDEN, VIRGINIA.
UM, I'M PROBABLY GOING TO HURT SOMEBODY'S FEELINGS HERE, RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
BUT BACK THIS SUMMER WHEN WE HAD OUR LITTLE, NO JUSTICE, NO PEACH PEACE FIASCO.
I HEARD SOME OF THE MEMBERS UP HERE, REGURGITATING, LEFTIST, TALKING POINTS, TALKING ABOUT SYSTEMIC RACISM.
WHEN YOU SAY THAT, YOU SAY, WELL, YOU ARE BETTER THAN ME.
AND, AND UH, I HAVE TAKEN THE, THOSE WHO HAVE VICTIM HOOD STATUS UNDER MY WING, AND YOU'RE TELLING ME I'M THE OPPRESSOR.
THAT'S ONE OF THE RAIN MAIN REASONS THAT THIS COUNTRY HAS FALLEN FALL INTO COMMUNISM.
WE'RE HEADED RIGHT FOR THIS CHINESE STUFF THAT WE'RE GETTING.
SO GET YOUR HEADS ON STRAIGHT ABOUT THAT.
RESIST TYRANNY, WHATEVER YOU CAN, THIS MOVEMENT WE GOT GOING TONIGHT.
AND LET ME SAY, WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE WE DOING WITH VOTING MACHINES IS ANY WAY YOU ALL CAN GET RID OF THEM DAMN VOTING MACHINES.
WHY EVEN VOTE? HALF OF US DON'T WANT TO VOTE ANYMORE.
THE ELECTION WAS JUST PLAYING UP CLEAR, STOLEN, UM, AND SHOOT.
I CAN BE PUT ON A NO FLY LIST FOR SHOOTING MY MOUTH OFF.
UH, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN FREEZE MY BANK ACCOUNT, WHATEVER WE'RE WE'RE IN BIG TROUBLE.
SO TRY TO TRY TO REALIZE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
I'VE HEARD THEM SPEAK ABOUT BLM, HOW GREAT THEY WERE.
UH DON'T THEY REALIZE THAT, UH, THAT, UH, COMMUNISM DOESN'T TOLERATE CHRISTIANITY.
ULTIMATELY THEY EAT THEIR OWN ALWAYS THROUGH HISTORY.
SO, UM, YEAH, TRY, TRY TO STRAIGHTEN UP ANYBODY THAT MIGHT BE SYMPATHETIC TO THE COMMUNIST BLM.
NOW I DID HEAR A RUMOR THAT Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE HELPED CRAFT THAT NAME, UH, UH, FRONT ROYAL UNITES.
I HOPE NOT, BUT THAT WAS A TERRIBLE MISTAKE, UH, IF YOU DID,
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BUT, UH, AND AS FAR AS THE MASK, I BELIEVE THEY'LL GO AWAY ANYWAY HERE PRETTY SOON BECAUSE THEY DID SERVE THEIR PURPOSE.THEY GOT THE ELECTION STOLEN, SO, UH, HARSH WORDS, BUT, UH, THANKS FOR LISTENING.
I APOLOGIZE IF I MISPRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME, JAMES SAYS KANICK SHENANDOAH SHORES ROAD, BRUCE TOWNSHEND.
MY NAME IS BRUCE TOWNS AND I LIVE AT FOUR 60 APPLE JACK CIRCLE IN LINDEN.
JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF TONIGHT AND TELL YOU THAT I THINK YOU'RE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB AND THAT I HOPE THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TAKES ALL OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS TONIGHT UNDER ADVISEMENT.
MY BIGGEST ISSUE IN COMING BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING WOULD BE TO SIMPLY ASK THAT WE PAY ATTENTION TO THE STRICT LETTER OF THE LAW, OF THE CONSTITUTION, OF THE STATE OF VIRGINIA, AS WELL AS THE LAWS THAT ESTABLISHED WARREN COUNTY.
AND YOU'LL HEAR MORE FROM ME IN THE FUTURE.
AND I APOLOGIZE IF I MISPRONOUNCED YOUR LAST NAME AS WELL.
MEG, YOU ALSO BATCH ROLISON DRIVE.
HI, UH, MAY JOSEPH 2020 ROLLISON DRIVE.
UM, I DIDN'T ACTUALLY KNOW I WAS SPEAKING, SO I HAVE NOTHING PREPARED, UH, BUT I WILL SAY I AM AN IMMIGRANT TO THIS COUNTRY.
UM, I THINK THE TOTALITARIAN REIGN OF TERROR IS JUST COMPLETELY UN-AMERICAN AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO MAKE WARREN COUNTY A SANCTUARY CITY FOR ALL OF ITS CITIZENS.
I THINK MOST FOR THE CHILDREN, I THINK THIS SITUATION IS GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY DAMAGING FOR THEM.
UH, MY KIDS GROW UP WITH A FATHER WHO IS CHRONICALLY ILL.
THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO LIVE IN FEAR OF SICKNESS AND OF LOSING A PARENT.
THIS SITUATION IS GOING TO CREATE A GENERATION OF CHILDREN WHO LIVE IN FEAR.
THAT'S INCREDIBLY DEBILITATING.
I ASKED YOU TO PLEASE PASS THIS RESOLUTION FOR WARREN COUNTY.
WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD TO THE NEXT PERSON ROBERT BELLER ROBERT BELLER ROBERT BAYLOR, BRIDGET.
JOHN PENNEL DID MARIAN HUDDLE ALSO LEAVE WARNER, JOSH PHILLIPS.
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JOSHUA PHILLIPS.NICHOLAS LET'S TRY OUT JONATHAN.
WE'RE LIVING IN VISITING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE, SIR, SIR.
MA'AM UH, YEAH, FIVE, FOUR, ONE ERIC COURT, FRONT ROYAL.
AND YOUR NAME? MANUEL B SENTI.
SO THIS IS A VERY EXCITING TIME THAT WE'RE LIVING, UH, VERY INTERESTING.
UM, WE ARE PRIVILEGED TO LIVE THIS TIME BECAUSE WE ARE, WE CAN ACTUALLY FIGHT FOR SOMETHING.
AND, UH, UH, MY, MY BACKGROUND IS FROM CUBA.
MY PARENTS FLED WITH ME IN 1962 AND, UM, I DIDN'T REALIZE TILL NOW THAT I HAVE POST TRAUMATIC STRESS SYNDROME AND, UM, FROM WHEN I WAS A CHILD THAT, UH, BACK THEN, SO, UM, I AM A WORM AND NOT A MAN.
DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT COMES FROM? WELL, YOU ARE WELL VERSED IN CERTAIN CERTAIN TYPES OF LITERATURE.
I AM A WORM AND NOT A MAN IS FROM THE PSALMS. IT'S TALKING ABOUT OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.
AND, UM, WORMS IS WHAT IS THE TERMINOLOGY THAT WAS USED BY THE REPRESSIVE REGIME IN CUBA TO REFER TO EVERYBODY THAT WAS NOT WITH A REPRESSIVE REGIME IN CUBA.
AND, UH, IT'S SORT OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN I HEARD THE TERM DEPLORABLE BEING THROWN AROUND, IT WAS KIND OF SIMILAR.
I URGE YOU TO, BY THE WAY TO VOTE FOR THIS RESOLUTION.
UH, SO I I'M, I AM A PROUD WORM.
AND, UM, YOU MIGHT THINK, OR SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE LISTENING HERE MIGHT THINK THAT YOU'RE IN A POSITION OF POWER AND PRIVILEGE AND THAT, UH, YOUR, UM, DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE SPARED THE, THE RAVAGES OF THE COMING? UM, THERE'S A MOVIE.
I URGE YOU TO LOOK IT UP ON YOUTUBE.
AND IT'S THE TESTIMONY OF PEOPLE IN CUBA WHO SUFFERED, UM, AT THE HANDS OF THE REGIME, PERSECUTION, JAIL, TORTURE, YOU NAME IT.
THEY SUFFERED THESE PEOPLE WERE COMMUNISTS SOCIALISTS, LIBERALS, BLACKS, WHITES, CONSERVATIVES.
AND IN, IN, IN THE INTERVIEWS, SOME OF THE COMMUNISTS SAID, YOU KNOW, WE THOUGHT WE TOOK OVER AND WE COULD FREELY EXPRESS OUR OPINION, BUT IT JUST WASN'T, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T FOLLOWING THE NARRATIVE THAT THE EXACT NARRATIVE THAT WAS BEING, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT WAS MANDATED.
I SUGGEST THAT YOU, THAT YOU LOOK AT IT.
MY DAD WAS, UM, UH, COMPLAINING ABOUT THE MONKEY TRIALS AND THEY STOOD OUTSIDE HIS HOUSE AND SAID, FIRING SQUAD, YOU KNOW, AT MIDNIGHT, HE GOT A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN BEFORE HE LEFT.
HE WENT, WE WENT THROUGH ELECTRIC SHOP.
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I LIKED HER SHOP, UH, THERAPY, AND, UH, MY DEARLY BELOVED DECEASED WIFE WHO SPENT THE FIRST 10 YEARS OF HER LIFE IN CUBA.SHE, UM, I BELIEVE THAT SHE ALWAYS HAD, UM, POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS SYNDROME.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS SHE KEPT REPEATING WHEN SHE HEARD ABOUT TAKING GUNS AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE WAS SOMETHING THAT FIDEL CASTRO LIKED TO SAY IN HIS SPEECHES.
VERY, VERY MEMORABLE, HOW TO MUST
SHE REMEMBERED ARMS FOR WHAT YOU KNOW, WELL, WHAT, WHAT DO WE NEED ARMS FOR THIS, FOR MOMENTS LIKE THIS, TO DEFEND OURSELVES AGAINST CERTAIN PARTS OF THE GOVERNMENT.
MAYBE YOU WANT TO BE PART OF A BOAT, REBEL GOVERNMENT AND VOTE FOR THIS RESOLUTION.
SORRY, I DIDN'T PREPARE ANYTHING.
I THINK EVERYBODY THOUGHT WE WERE SIGNING UP FOR ONE LIST AND THEN A BUNCH OF PEOPLE LEFT.
CAUSE WE THOUGHT WE ONLY HAD A FEW MINUTES.
UM, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE TO CONTRIBUTE BEYOND WHAT EVERYONE ELSE ALREADY SAID, BUT I WILL SAY THAT I WORK FOR A SMALL BUSINESS IN FRONT ROYAL.
MY HUSBAND OWNS ONE, ALL DIFFERENT BUSINESSES AND THEY'RE ALL SMALL BUSINESSES IN FRONT ROYAL.
AND IT'S REALLY A SHAME TO ME THAT ALL THESE SMALL BUSINESSES RESTAURANTS ARE SUFFERING BECAUSE OF THE MASS MANDATES BECAUSE OF THE SOCIAL DISTANCING.
IT'S JUST REALLY A SHAME BECAUSE HONESTLY, IF PEOPLE ARE REALLY THAT AFRAID OF BEING ILL, THEY SHOULD BE THE ONE STAYING HOME AND WE SHOULD STOP PUNISHING HEALTHY PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
I THINK WE'VE GOT ENOUGH TIME FOR AT LEAST ONE MORE.
THERE MIGHT'VE BEEN MY BROTHER.
HI, MY NAME IS LARISSA FEDERICA.
UM, ONE TO TWO CROWFOOT AVENUE.
THANK YOU FOR HEARING US OUT TONIGHT.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, TO SAY THAT WELL, I'M ALSO A BUSINESS OWNER HERE ON MAIN STREET, WHICH I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT.
UM, BUT I ALSO BEING A BUSINESS OWNER.
I COME IN ON MAIN STREET AND I SEE, UM, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE RESTAURANTS THERE AND THE DIFFERENT STORES.
AND IT REALLY BREAKS MY HEART.
I MOVED HERE WHEN, UH, 1985 WHEN I WAS FIVE YEARS OLD.
SO FRONT ROYAL IS REALLY DEAR TO MY HEART.
UM, AND MORE THAN ANYTHING, I WANT IT TO BOOM AND I WANT IT TO SURVIVE AND THRIVE.
AND UM, AND I'M LOOKING AT THESE STORES AND I SEE THEM EMPTY AND NO ONE COMING IN AND EATING.
AND THERE ARE A MYRIAD OF REASONS WHY, AND THEN SOME PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO COME IN AND, UM, OTHER PEOPLE CAN'T BECAUSE OF THESE MANDATES THAT ARE THERE.
I KNOW I HAVE HEALTH ISSUES AND I CAN'T WEAR A MASK BECAUSE I JUST HAVE PANIC ATTACKS.
AND IT'S A SHAME FOR ME TO, TO IN A WAY THESE, THESE COMPANIES, THESE BUSINESSES ARE FORCED TO ALMOST SHAME PEOPLE FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO WEAR A MASK.
UM, AND IT WOULD BE NICE FOR FRONT ROYAL TO BE ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THEMSELVES.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE BUSINESS DOESN'T WANT TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME IN WITHOUT MASKS.
BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IS WE HAVE A GOVERNOR SITTING IN ENRICHMENT.
WHO'S NEVER PROBABLY BEEN TO FRONT ROYAL, DOES IT THAT DOESN'T KNOW HOW THESE PEOPLE FEEL AND THAT, THAT THE COMPANIES THEMSELVES CAN MAKE TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS.
AND THEN I WOULD HAVE THE FREEDOM PERHAPS TO GO TO ONE OR TWO RESTAURANTS AND EAT OUT AND SUPPORT.
AND AS I DO WANT TO SUPPORT THEM, UM, BUT ALSO ON, UH, ON, UM, THE SECOND THOUGHT IS THAT I AM ALSO, I'M A DAUGHTER OF AN IMMIGRANT WHO MY PARENTS CAME FROM UKRAINE RIGHT BEFORE THE IRON CURTAIN FELL.
AND ONE GRANDFATHER WAS AN AUSCHWITZ AND ALMOST DIED.
AND ANOTHER GRANDFATHER WAS IN ANOTHER CONCENTRATION CAMPS.
SO THEY CAME TO AMERICA FULL OF HOPE.
AND I KNOW THIS STORY IS VERY TYPICAL WITH ARROGANCE, BUT $5 IN THEIR POCKET.
AND THEY MADE SOMETHING OF THEIR LIVES AND THEY
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HAD A CHANCE AND THEY, THEY COULD OPEN UP, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANTED TO HAVE A BUSINESS, THEY COULD STUDY ALL THESE THINGS.AND SO WE GREW UP HEARING THE STORY OF WHAT WAS LIKE TO LIVE UNDER SOCIALIST COMMUNIST COUNTRY.
AND, AND TO HEAR MY FATHER SAY, THIS IS EXACTLY HE'S 81.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
WHAT STARTED HAPPENING IN RUSSIA? OH YEAH, THAT STARTED HAPPENING TOO.
THIS IS HOW THEY SLOWLY STARTED TAKING OUR FREEDOM AWAY.
AND SO I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A CHANCE STILL TO STAND UP AND MAKE DECISIONS ON OUR OWN IN OUR OWN SMALL TOWN, BECAUSE THIS IS OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE FOREFATHERS HAVE FOUGHT FOR AND THEY PUT THIS INTO PLACE.
SO THAT TYRANNY WOULDN'T HAPPEN SO THAT SOMEBODY SITTING IN RICHMOND COULDN'T DECIDE FOR A SMALL TOWN, HOW THEY WANT TO LIVE THEIR LIFE.
SO I REALLY ASK YOU TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THIS CONSIDER.
AND IF YOU WANT TO GET TOGETHER, I WILL TALK TO YOU.
I WILL TELL YOU MORE STORIES, UM, OF MY FATHER AND MY GRANDPARENTS.
AND, UM, JUST, JUST TO KNOW THAT I HAVE A LOT OF HOPE FOR FRONT ROYAL AND, UM, WOULD LOVE FOR IT TO BE A SANCTUARY CITY.
IT IS NOW EIGHT O'CLOCK AND MRS. SHIRAKI, DO YOU WANT TO READ OFF THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE? UM, I'M SORRY, IF YOU DIDN'T GET TO SPEAK, I, I HAVE A SENSE THAT YOU ALL IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER HAVE HAD YOUR POINT SPOKEN FROM SOMEONE TONIGHT, BUT MRS. SCHROCK, IF YOU WANT TO READ THAT OFF.
SO THE INDIVIDUALS WHO DID NOT GET TO SPEAK, BUT THE CHAIR WOULD STILL LIKE TO RECOGNIZE AS COMING OUT AND VOICING THEIR OPINIONS.
EXCUSE ME, AGAIN, IT'S THE 60 MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT I KNOW WE'VE GOT A PUBLIC HEARINGS, BUT LOOKING AT THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, I DON'T REALLY SEE PEOPLE.
I MAY BE MISTAKEN THAT ARE HERE WITH LEGAL, WITH, UH, UH, ARCHITECTS, WHATEVER, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE TO ME, WITH THE PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP HERE TONIGHT, WE OUGHT TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO AHEAD AND SPEAK AND KEEP IT TO THE THREE MINUTES.
AND I THINK HOW MANY MORE DO YOU HAVE TO SPEAK MR. ROSS? THERE ARE 14 INDIVIDUALS.
MA'AM FOR ME PERSONALLY, I'M IN FAVOR OF LETTING THEM SPEAK.
AND THERE AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE BOARD FEELS.
HOW DOES THE BOARD FEEL FOR THEM? I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR HIM SPEAK ALSO.
UM, AND AGAIN, SOMEONE MAY HAVE LEFT, SO IT MADE IT SHORTER.
MS. ROCKY, GO AHEAD WITH THE LIZ PLEASE.
MA'AM FRANCISCO WHITAKER, FRANCISCO WHITAKER, TERESA FEDERICA, TERESA, KRISTIN OLIN CAUGHT PAUL OLIN.
TODD ALSO LEFT RIGHT? CHRISTINA BAKER, BAKER.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'M CHRISTINA BAKER.
I'M A COUNTY RESIDENT, 50 MOUNTAIN RIDGE COURT.
I'M COMING FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF, UM, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
CERTAINLY I COULD REPEAT THE STORIES OF MY DEAR ONES WHO IMMIGRATED FROM ALL KINDS OF SITUATIONS, BUT I ALSO AM A WIFE OF A FORMER MILITARY MEMBER WHO DID GO TO WAR.
I AM ALSO A LAW ENFORCEMENT WIFE OF BOTH.
HE WORKED IN THE COUNTY FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND CURRENTLY WORKS IN FRONT ROYAL.
THESE MANDATES, THESE DICTATES AND THE POLITICAL CLIMATE OF THIS LAST YEAR HAS CERTAINLY MADE ME AS TERRIFIED AS I WAS WHILE HE WAS IN AFGHANISTAN.
AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S COMMON AMONG LAW ENFORCEMENT FAMILIES AND THOSE WHO LOVE THEM.
ALSO, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE PRETTY DARN BUSY WITH EVERYTHING THAT THEY WERE DOING BEFORE.
COVID, AS YOU KNOW, OVERDOSES ARE HORRIBLE, BUT THEY'RE NOT NEW, UM, THEFT, ASSAULT, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, AND CHILD ABUSE, SEXUAL ASSAULT, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE NOT NEW.
THEY'RE BUSY AND THEY'RE STRETCHED THIN.
AND THE CURRENT LAWS, OR I'M SORRY, THEIR, YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY'RE NATURALLY NOT EVEN LAWS.
THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS THAT TAKE SOME ATTENTION, UM, EXTRA MEETINGS, EXTRA SAFETY PRECAUTIONS, ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO DO, JUST GIVE THEM MORE TO DO.
IN ADDITION TO ANYTHING THAT MAY COME FURTHER IN THE FUTURE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR THE STATE GOVERNMENT THAT COULD POSSIBLY INFRINGE ON
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THE CITIZENS THAT THEY ALREADY KNOW AND LOVE OR PROTECT HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.I LOVED MY DEMOCRACY AND MY PATRIOTISM AND I VOTED, AND THAT WAS MY FIRST STEP IN SELF-GOVERNMENT.
SO MY NEXT STEP IN SELF-GOVERNANCE IS YOU GUYS, MY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FROM THEN ON, IT GOES A LOT FURTHER BEYOND MY DAY-TO-DAY REACH AS MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR NEIGHBORS.
THIS INITIATIVE IS IMPORTANT, PERHAPS IT'S NOT PERFECT.
I'M NOT SURE THIS DRAFT IS REALLY PERFECT.
IT SHOULD BE PERFECTED TO GIVE ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY AND CITIZENS A SENSE THAT THEY ARE SELF-GOVERNED AFTER ALL.
IT SHOULD ALSO BE SOMETHING THAT YOU LOOK INTO TO FORTIFY, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE LIBERTY LOVING RELATIVES AND FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS WHO ARE KIND OF PUSHED BEYOND THEIR LIMITS THAT WE SOMETIMES ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO KEEPING THE LAWS, PROTECTING EVERYBODY BECAUSE THEY ARE STRESSED.
THEY HAD A TERRIBLE YEAR AND TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION TOO, PLEASE, WHEN YOU CONSIDER THIS PROPOSAL, THIS RESOLUTION, IF IT'S NOT PERFECT, CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE IT PERFECT AND GIVE OUR SMALL COMMUNITY SOME COMPETENCE IN ALL OF YOU AS OUR FIRST STEP IN SELF-GOVERNANCE BEFORE IT CAN GO ONTO THE STATE LEVEL WHERE WE WILL TRY TO BE HEARD LEGALLY AND THROUGH THE NORMAL, YOU KNOW, PROCESSES THAT WE'RE TAUGHT TO FOLLOW LEGALLY.
UM, LAW ENFORCEMENT FAMILIES WOULD APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL AS VETERANS FEELING RESPECTED THAT THEIR SACRIFICES MATTERED AT SOME POINT AND STILL DO TODAY.
FIANNA LIT BOCK, JACOB LEWINSKY, SAM PHILLIPS, SAM ELEANOR HORNER.
HELLO, I'M ELEANOR HORNER SIX 10 RANDOLPH AVENUE.
UM, I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO CONSIDER THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS SPOKEN OUT HERE TONIGHT.
UM, MANY PEOPLE HERE, I'M SURE YOU SAW THE CROWD.
MANY OF THEM ARE BUSINESS OWNERS AND WE WANT OUR BUSINESSES TO THRIVE AND TO RUN THEM AS WE SEE FIT.
UM, AND I'M SURE YOU ALL WANT A BUSTLING FRONT ROYAL.
UM, WE ARE ALL PASSIONATE ABOUT THE TOWN JUST AS YOU ALL ARE.
UM, AND SO I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO CONSIDER THE RESOLUTION AND STAND BEHIND FOR THE PEOPLE AT FRONT ROYAL, WHO, UM, WHO YOU SUPPORT AND WE SUPPORT YOU.
I'M AT 18 EAST STONEWALL, UM, DRIVE.
UH, I AM JUST ONE TO ENCOURAGE AGAIN, THE PASSING OF THE RESOLUTION.
I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOU COMING FROM A MOTHER.
I HAVE A FOUR YEAR OLD, A TWO YEAR OLD AND A 10 MONTH OLD.
AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW DIFFICULT IT'S BEEN DURING THESE LAST, UM, THESE LAST MONTHS REALLY EVER SINCE I HAD MY LAST BABY, UM, NOT ONLY JUGGLING, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HAVE THREE KIDS, BUT THE MASKS, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SICK.
UM, I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A PRECEDENT THAT THEY GROW UP WITH.
UM, AND I THINK I'VE BEEN HARASSED ENOUGH OVER NOT WEARING THEM.
UM, I HAVE TO DROP EVERYTHING IN THE MOMENT IN A MOMENT'S NOTICE.
UM, I JUST, WE, WE DON'T DO THE MASS THING.
MY CHILDREN DEFINITELY DO NOT WEAR ONE.
AND SO I AM JUST VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS RESOLUTION.
UM, AGAIN, I'M KIND OF TIRED OF GETTING HARASSED OVER THE MASK THING.
THERE ARE SO MANY WAYS THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE HIGH RISK, WHICH I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.
I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE HIGH RISK, UM, CAUSE THAT MY 80 YEAR OLD GRANDMOTHER DOESN'T WEAR A MASK.
SHE DOESN'T CARE IF SHE GETS IT OR NOT, BUT, UM, THERE ARE WAYS THERE'S CURBSIDE, THERE'S DELIVERY.
PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT SICK SHOULD NOT BE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE EXTRA STEPS TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT IN PUBLIC, NORMALLY TO EAT LUNCH OR TO
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GO BUY DIAPERS FOR THEIR CHILDREN.UM, I PRETTY MUCH NOW GET MY HUSBAND TO DO MOST OF THE SHOPPING BECAUSE I'M JUST SO TIRED OF TAKING MY KIDS OUT IN PUBLIC AND ALL THESE PEOPLE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, UM, COME AT ME WITH DIFFERENT THINGS ANYWAY.
UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, BUT THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS RESOLUTION.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT.
I'M AT 18 EAST STONEWALL DRIVE FRONT ROYAL, VIRGINIA.
UM, I'M THE HUSBAND THAT DOES ALL THE SHOPPING NOW.
UH, SO I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU ALL AS YOU KNOW, ELECTED OFFICIALS, UH, THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY, THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY ARE GIVEN THREE THINGS BY THE CONSTITUTION, LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS, RESTRICTING SMALL BUSINESS OF WHICH I'M AN EMPLOYEE OF ONE.
AND I HAVE FRIENDS THAT OWN SEVERAL OTHERS, NOT JUST IN FRONT ROYAL ITSELF, BUT IN THE REST OF THE COUNTY AS WELL.
UM, RESTRICTING THOSE BUSINESSES TO FLOURISH IS RESTRICTING OUR LIVELIHOOD, THE LIVELIHOOD THAT PAYS THE TAXES TO KEEP OUR GOVERNMENT RUNNING EFFICIENTLY AND TO KEEP SERVICES RUNNING EFFICIENTLY.
AND THIS COUNTY, FOR THOSE, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE LESS FORTUNATE, CLOSING DOWN BUSINESSES, LIMITING OUR POTENTIAL FOR ECONOMIC FREEDOM IS NOT ASSISTING THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY.
UM, YOU LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION THAT'S PRESENTED BEFORE YOU.
I THINK A SPEAKER SAID IT PRETTY ELOQUENTLY BEFORE IT MIGHT NOT BE PERFECT, BUT IT CAN BE CLOSER TO PERFECT IT PERFECTED.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT DIFFERENT SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.
AND, UH, IT'S JUST TIME WE GET OUR COUNTY BACK RUNNING.
UM, LOOK AT THE NUMBERS OF CORONA VIRUS INFECTED AND DEATHS IN THIS COUNTY.
IT IS AMONGST THE LOWEST IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA.
UM, SO RESTRICTING THOSE BUSINESSES TO THE, TO THE, UH, CONTROL MEASURES THAT HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED IN THE REST OF THE STATE, ESPECIALLY IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA IS JUST NOT A FAIR COMPARISON.
SO I STRONGLY RECOMMEND, UM, FOR YOUR, YOU KNOW, HONOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS WISHES AND SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
I'M PETER I'M FROM 2192 STRAUSBERG ROAD ON AND I THOUGHT OF SOMETHING IN THE PAST FIVE MINUTES.
I THINK I'D LIKE YOU GUYS TO LISTEN TO MY BROTHER, LUKE, OUT IN THE HALLWAY.
AND I STARTED A CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS DURING I THINK THE FIRST WEEK OF THE SHUTDOWN IN MARCH OR APRIL, WE QUIT OUR JOBS AND PUT EVERYTHING WE HAD IN STARTING A BUSINESS.
AND THE NEXT DAY THE WORLD LOCKED DOWN.
WE BOTH HAVE YOUNG FAMILIES AND KIDS TO SUPPORT MORTGAGES, TO PAY AND LIVES, TO LIVE.
AND WE WONDERED HOW WE WERE GOING TO MAKE IT WORK WELL, EVERYBODY AROUND US TOLD US, OH, YOU GUYS ARE GOOD.
YOUR CONSTRUCTION YOU'RE ESSENTIAL.
WELL, I GO TO MULTIPLE HOUSES A WEEK.
I TALK TO HUSBANDS AND WIVES WHO HAVE LEAKING ROOFS AND FALLING APART HOUSES AND SHUT DOWN BUSINESSES WHO CAN'T PAY ME TO WORK ON THEIR HOUSES.
AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY FINANCIAL DECISIONS I'VE WEIGHED IN ON WITH HOMEOWNERS WHO CAN'T DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
THEY CAN'T PREDICT THE $600 CHECK THAT THEY'LL NEVER GET.
I HAVE MULTIPLE RELATIVES IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS, ALSO WITH SMALL KIDS TO RAISE.
THEY'RE WORKING ONE DAY A WEEK WHO DECIDES WHO IS ESSENTIAL AND WHO ISN'T, WHO DECIDES WHAT BUSINESSES GETS TO BE SHUT DOWN AND WHO DON'T, THE PEOPLE WHO KEEP THEIR JOBS.
EVERY DAY, I HEAR MORE COMPLAINING FROM GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES AT THE DUMP WHO ARE EARNING OVERTIME DURING THIS AND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO GO DOWN THERE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEIR POLICIES.
WHY IS IT SAFE FOR GOVERNMENT TO BE PAID OVER TIME? WHEN MULTIPLE BUSINESSES
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THAT I INTERACT WITH ON A DAILY BASIS ARE SHUT DOWN OR HALF-SPEED OR LAYING GUYS OFF.WHY? HOW IS THAT FAIR? SOMETHING THAT I ENCOUNTER EVERY DAY AT PEOPLE'S HOUSES, NOT ONLY TRYING TO GET WORK FOR MYSELF AND FOR MY COWORKERS, BUT TRYING TO FIX PEOPLE'S HOUSES AND HELP THEM OUT.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, THERE IS NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP.
WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? YES.
MA'AM STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
JANE ELLIOTT, UH, WOODWARD COURT, FRONT ROYAL.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK FIRST OF ALL, THE RESOLUTION IS ONLY ABOUT FOLLOWING THE CONSTITUTION.
THAT'S ALL THAT'S BEING ASKED.
I HAVE HAD QUITE A FEW HORRIFIC EXPERIENCES OVER THIS COVID RESTRICTIONS LOCKED DOWN.
SO I HAVE A MOTHER WHO IS IN ASSISTED LIVING.
SHE WAS LOCKED DOWN FOR NINE SOLID MONTHS.
WE HAD A CELEBRATE HER 94TH BIRTHDAY IN 97 DEGREE WEATHER WITH THE FAMILY OUTSIDE AND MY MOTHER BEHIND A SEALED WINDOW.
WE HAD TO THEN EAT THE CAKE AND THEN PASS IT THROUGH THE STAFF TO GIVE TO HER.
UM, WE HAD WAITED FOR A WHEELCHAIR FOR MY MOTHER FOR CLEAR, ALMOST A YEAR BEFORE THE RED TAPE FINALLY APPROVED IT.
THAT WAS THE DAY THE FACILITY DECIDED TO DO THE LOCKDOWN AND THEY REFUSED THE WHEELCHAIR TO ENTER.
AND TO THIS DAY, MY MOTHER DOES HAVE THE WHEELCHAIR.
SHE HAS BEEN USING A BORROWED ONE BECAUSE OF THIS.
I FINALLY TOOK HER OUT OF THAT BECAUSE THAT PARTICULAR PLACE WITH SO ACCESSIBLY RESTRICTIVE, MY MOTHER DOES NOT RECOGNIZE ME ANY LONGER.
THE DAY I TOOK HER OUT AND PUT HER IN MY CAR.
SHE SAID, WHO ARE YOU? AND WHERE ARE YOU TAKING ME? THIS IS COVID.
I HAVE A MEDICAL CONDITION WHERE I HAVE A VALID EXEMPTION.
THE GREETER STOPPED ME AND WANTING TO KNOW WHERE MY MASK WAS.
I EXPLAINED I HAD AN EXEMPTION.
I SAID, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER? AND HE SAID, I DON'T CARE ABOUT ANY EXECUTIVE ORDER.
I WALKED AWAY FROM HIM AND I FELT LIKE THE GESTAPO WAS GOING TO COME AFTER ME FOR THE REST OF THE TIME I WAS IN THAT STORE.
THIS IS THE RESULT OF COVID FOLKS.
WE HAVE BECOME SUSPICIOUS OF ONE ANOTHER.
I WALKED DOWN MAIN STREET TODAY IN TOWN AND PEOPLE WERE STOPPING AND MOVING AWAY, KEEPING THEIR SOCIALIST DISTANCING FOR FEAR OF WHAT, WHAT HAVE WE BECOME? WHAT HAVE WE BECOME THE LAND OF THE FREE, THE HOME OF THE BRAVE, THE LAND OF THE IMPRISON AND THE HOME OF THE CHICKENS.
I HOPE THAT THIS IS NOT THE LAST DAY OF THE FREEDOMS THAT OUR FOUNDING FATHERS FOUGHT SO HARD FOR US.
UM, I DIDN'T HAVE AN INTENTION TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
PUT SINCE YOU'RE ALLOWING EXTRA SPEAKERS.
UM, MY OPINION IS ABOUT THE, YOUR REQUIREMENT TO HAVE EVERYONE THAT SPEAKS BEFORE YOU GIVE THE ADDRESS, UM, YOU THROUGH, UH, WORKING WITH THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER, BROADCAST THIS INFORMATION, UH, TO THE ENTIRE WORLD.
UH, YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF BRAVE SPEAKERS TONIGHT THAT HAVE SAID SOME THINGS THAT IN SOME REGIMES IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND AND IN AMERICA, UM, COULD GET YOU LOCKED UP AND EXECUTED.
AND THIS INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE, UH,
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FOR THE REST OF TIME.SO I ASKED THAT IF YOU REQUIRE THIS, IT HAD TO BE REDACTED BEFORE PUBLICLY BROADCAST OR THAT YOU NO LONGER REQUEST.
IT IS ALSO A VIOLATION OF OUR INFORMATION SECURITY.
AND YOU HAVE BOTH YOUR COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEYS.
WHEN LOOKING INTO THE LAWS IN THIS, UH, AGREE WITH ME.
THANK YOU AND HAVE A NICE DAY.
ONE LAST CALL FOR ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
IF YOU'VE SPOKEN ONE TIME, THAT'S, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP IT AT ONE TIME TONIGHT, BUT THANK YOU.
I ALSO DID NOT PLAN ON SPEAKING TONIGHT, BUT I DO WANT TO REITERATE TWO WOMEN BEFORE ME.
HER HARASSMENT STORIES IS SOMETHING I SEE EVERY DAY.
UM, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS HARD TO HAVE.
MY CHILDREN HAVE TO SEE ME BE HARASSED LIKE THAT IN A STORE EVERY DAY.
I'M NOT A SOCIALLY ANXIOUS PERSON.
I'M NOT SOMEBODY WHO GETS AWKWARD AROUND OTHER PEOPLE.
I VERY MUCH ENJOY SOCIALIZING.
AND THIS PANDEMIC HAS MADE ME HAVE TO MENTALLY PREPARE EVERY DAY TO BE DEFENSIVE.
WHEN I GO OUT TO KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME UP TO ME AND RIDICULE ME IN FRONT OF MY CHILDREN AND THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO STAND MY GROUND FOR THEM.
I DO WANT TO SEE YOU GUYS SERIOUSLY CONSIDER THIS PETITION.
IT IS NOT IN ANY WAY, NEGATING THE SERIOUSNESS OF THESE ILLNESSES OR THE FEAR THAT PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE OF THESE ILLNESSES.
IT IS JUST SEEING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT AFRAID AND ALLOWING THOSE WHO ARE TO LIVE THEIR LIVES WITH THOSE MANDATES, BUT NOT FORCING EVERYONE ELSE TO THANK YOU.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS LAST WEEK ON FOR THE NIGHT.
MY NAME IS ALISON PROPS AND I LIVE AT 1360 WESTERN LANE.
JUST IN CASE YOU DIDN'T GET THE POINT.
I'M ALSO A MOM AND I'VE HAD TO MENTALLY PREPARE MYSELF EVERY TIME I LEAVE MY HOUSE, I AM A STAY AT HOME.
MOTHER OF FIVE CHILDREN BEING A STAY AT HOME.
MOTHER IS ALREADY EXTREMELY ISOLATING, ESPECIALLY YOUNG MOTHERS.
WE'RE ALL YOUNG MOTHERS AND TO BE AFRAID TO EVEN GO TO THE GROCERY STORE TO GET THINGS YOU NEED.
AND I'VE HAD PEOPLE SAY, WELL, JUST DO PICK UP.
I ALSO HAVE HAD TO ASK MY HUSBAND TO RUN MOST ERRANDS FOR ME, WHICH HE WORKS A FULL-TIME JOB AND IT'S STRESSFUL TO BE IN YOUR HOUSE ALL THE TIME AND NEVER BE ABLE TO LEAVE.
BEING A GERMAPHOBE USED TO BE A MENTAL ILLNESS, AND NOW IT'S A VIRTUE AND THAT IS WRONG.
RIGHT? WELL, I APPRECIATE FOR EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS TONIGHT AND I'M SURE WE ARE ALL GONNA TAKE THEM ALL TO HEART AT THIS TIME.
DOES ANYBODY NEED THAT APARTMENT BACK? I APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING PEOPLE TO SPEAK.
UH, CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE HERE THAT SIGNED UP AND I KNOW WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARINGS TO START AT SEVEN 30, BUT TO ALLOW THAT TIME TO GO OVER BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE TOOK OUT, UH, TOOK THEIR OWN TIME TO SHOW UP HERE AND SPEAK.
AND SO ALLOWING THEM TO HAVE WHAT THEY WANTED TO SAY.
I THINK IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT EVEN THOUGH WENT OVER THE TIME LIMIT FOR THAT'S FINE.
I THINK SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO BEND THE RULES TO SOME EXTENT, BUT WHAT I WOULD EX UH, REQUEST YOU GUYS STARTED AT SIX WITH A, UH, CLOSED SESSION.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MAYBE TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS IF THAT'S OKAY.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO, SIR.
SO WE ARE NOW ABOUT TWO MINUTES INTO THAT FIVE MINUTES, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL RECONVENE AT EIGHT 30 THEN AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING OUT TONIGHT.
[K.1. Ordinance to Amend and Re-Ordain Sections 66-28 (Running at large restricted), 66-29 (Violations and penalties), 66-31 (Procedure upon observation of dog in violation), and 66-32 (Restricted areas enumerated) of the Warren County Code – Caitlin Jordan]
THIS TIME.WE'RE GOING TO START THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO DISCUSS A MATTER THAT IS BEFORE THE BOARD FOR ACTION.
A PUBLIC HEARING IS NOT A DEBATE AND ALL THE COMMENTS SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE BOARD.
AND THE CODE OF CONDUCT FOR THIS IS JUST AS IT WAS FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT TIME.
SO AT THIS TIME WE HAVE ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND REORDERING SECTION 66 DASH 28, RUNNING THAT LARGE RESTRICTED 66 DASH 29
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VIOLATIONS AND PENALTIES 66 DASH 31 PROCEDURE UPON OBSERVATION OF A DOG IN VIOLATION AND 66 DASH 32 RESTRICTED AREAS, ENUMERATED OF THE WARREN COUNTY CODE, MRS. JORDAN, GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR AND UH, BOARD MEMBERS, UH, CURRENTLY CHAPTER 66 OF THE WARREN COUNTY CODE PROHIBITS DOGS FROM RUNNING AT LARGE AND SPECIFIC AREAS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.UH, DURING THE 2019 SESSION OF THE VIRGINIA LEGISLATURE, VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 3.2 DASH 65 38, WHICH GRANTS LOCALITIES, THE AUTHORITY TO ENACT RUNNING AT LARGE ORDINANCES WAS AMENDED TO INCLUDE RUNNING AT LARGE IN A PACK AND REMOVED THE TERM SELF HUNTING FROM THE DEFINITION OF RUNNING AT LARGE, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS REQUESTING THAT THE BOARD AMEND WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTIONS 66 DASH EIGHT 66 DASH 29 AND 66 DASH 31 TO REFLECT THESE RECENT CHANGES MADE TO THE VIRGINIA CODE.
A COPY OF THESE PROPOSED CHANGES HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU, UM, IN YOUR PACKET FOR ADDITIONALLY, THE WARREN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS REQUESTED THAT WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTION 66 DASH 32, BE AMENDED TO PROHIBIT DOGS RUNNING AT LARGE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY, NOT JUST SPECIFIC RESIDENTIAL AREAS, SUCH A CHANGE WILL GREATLY IMPROVE THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS ABILITY TO ENFORCE THE COUNTY IS RUNNING OUT LARGE ORDINANCES AND HELP TO ADDRESS REOCCURRING ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
A COPY OF THOSE PROPOSED CHANGES TO WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTION 66 DASH 32 HAS ALSO BEEN PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET.
I WILL NOW TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO SERGEANT GOMEZ, UM, TO ADDRESS THE BOARD GOOD EVENING.
UM, I MET WITH CAITLIN JORDAN, UH, BACK IN SEPTEMBER.
UM, I SPOKE WITH HER CONCERNS ABOUT THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE HAVING A RUNNING AT LARGE ORDINANCE, NOT JUST CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, THE REASON FOR THAT WAS SO THAT EVERYONE ACROSS THE COUNTY HAD THE SAME PROTECTIONS, NOT JUST, UM, THE PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT ALSO AS AN EFFORT TO PROTECT DOGS AS WELL.
UM, I'VE RECENTLY HAD AN INCIDENT OUT IN THE COUNTY WHERE, UM, A GENTLEMAN MOVED TO THIS AREA, UM, THOUGHT THAT WE DID HAVE A RUNNING AT LARGE ORDINANCE BECAUSE HE DIDN'T READ THE CODE SECTION.
UM, BUT EITHER WAY HE CAN'T WALK HIS DOG ON THE MAIN ROAD BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC.
UM, THERE'S A DOG THAT'S LIVED THERE FOR YEARS WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS RUNNING OUT THIS, OUT IN THE OTHER.
UM, BUT THE DOG COMES OUT THEN BEING PROTECTIVE AND GOING AFTER THIS MAN'S DOG, WHO'S WALKING IT.
UM, I HAVE NO WAY TO ENFORCE THE PEOPLE TO KEEP THE DOG ON THEIR PROPERTY.
AND I HAVE NO WAY TO PROTECT THE MAN WHO'S WALKING ON THE RURAL ROAD.
UM, HE IS NOW TAKING THE MATTER INTO HIS OWN HANDS THAT IF THE STOCK COMES OUT AGAIN, HE'S THREATENED TO KILL IT.
UM, SO I HAVE NO MEDIUM GROUND.
ALSO, IF THERE'S A DOG ATTACK, IT EITHER HAS TO BE SEVERE AND WE GO TO DANGEROUS DOG WITH SEVERE RESTRICTIONS, OR I HAVE NO WAY TO HELP PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? MRS. SHIRAKI IS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? SHE TOOK OFF, I DON'T SEE REBECCA AND MARK HENDRIX SPOKE TO ME.
UM, THEY WERE IN SUPPORT OF, UH, UM, ORDINANCE CHANGE.
UM, WHEN SOMEONE HAD HEALTH CONCERNS CONCERNED ABOUT THE CROWNING SQUAT CURSING, FIRSTLY, HE WAS A GENTLEMAN HE LEFT FOR HOME.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? SECOND CALL ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? THIRD AND FINAL TIME.
UH, THE, THE EXAMPLE THAT YOU GAVE JUST A MINUTE AGO, THE DOLL COMING OUT THAT WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED ADULT WHEN THAT NOISE IN A PACK WITH IT.
NO, THAT'S UM, THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
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ALL RIGHT.THANK YOU, MRS. JORDAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ADDITIONS TO THIS? NO.
I WOULD JUST BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THE BOARD HAS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED? DO I HAVE A MOTION? THE QUESTION THOUGH, BEFORE YOU DO THAT AND THERE AGAIN, I MAY BE GETTING CONFUSED.
IT COULD BE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
SO I ASKED TWICE IF THERE WERE QUESTIONS AND THEN I JUST CLOSED IT.
SO IF YOU DIDN'T HEAR YOU, I'M SORRY WITH YOUR MASK.
I ASKED WHY HE ASKED IF THERE WERE QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AND THEN I CLOSED THE HEARING.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO KEEP WITH POLICY HERE.
SO NOW YOU'RE ASKING A QUESTION AND NOW I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE, THIS INDIVIDUAL, WHICH I THINK GIAN, BECAUSE HE WOULD MAKE A MOTION.
WE STILL HAVE PORTIONS FOR DISCUSSIONS.
WE CAN, I JUST NOTICED IN HERE AND I MAY BE MISTAKEN BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN WE DO STUFF ON CERTAIN, UH, AREAS, AS FAR AS THE ROADS, BUT IN LOOKING AT THIS, IT SAYS, UH, UNLAWFUL FOR ANY DOGS TO RUN LARGE, ANYTIME IN SUCH AREAS OF THE COUNTY AS DESIGNATED, UH, ORDINANCE.
DOES THAT MEAN THE ENTIRE COUNTY OR DOES THAT MEAN JUST SEPARATE AND YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY ANSWERED THIS AND I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE.
I'M ASKING FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY, ALL SUBDIVISIONS, ALL SUBDIVISIONS INCLUDED BECAUSE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, IT'S ONLY SPECIFIC TO ABOUT 30 SUBDIVISIONS.
RIGHT? AND AS MORE PEOPLE COME TO THE COMMUNITY AND MORE DEVELOPMENTS, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER EVERY SUBDIVISION.
UM, AND THEN IT'S TERRIBLE THAT I HAVE TO SAY TO A MAN WHO LIVES ON THIS ROAD.
BUT THE PEOPLE THAT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE THOSE RIGHTS.
THAT'S JUST WHAT I WANT TO CLARIFY.
BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WITH ATVS WE COME ACROSS OR WHATEVER HAD TO BE CERTAIN SUBDIVISION, BUT THIS ONE HERE WOULD BE BASICALLY YES.
SO THE COUNTY, WHY THAT'S, WHAT I'M ASKING IS THAT THE COUNTYWIDE HAVE RUNNING AT LARGE ORDINANCE JUST TO PROTECT EVERYBODY.
AND AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR CLARIFICATION, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, CAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, UH, BEING IN SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF WITH THE ATVS AND WHATEVER HE WAS DESIGNATED, BUT THIS HERE IS GOING TO BE COUNTYWIDE AS FAR AS DOGS RUNNING TO LOOSEN.
AND IF YOU MENTIONED THAT BEFORE, I APOLOGIZE.
MA'AM AT THIS TIME, DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM THE BOARD? YES, SIR.
I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT THE AMENDMENTS TO THE WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTION 66 DASH 28 66 DASH 29 AND 66 31 TO THE, INCLUDING AN INCLUDE RUNNING IN A PACK AND TWO, A MEN COUNTY CODE SECTION 66 32, THE PROHIBITATION OF ANY DOG RUNNING AT LARGE TO APPLY TO THE ENTIRE ENTIRE COUNTY.
IS THERE A SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MR. CARTER.
MR. FOX, MR. MAYOR MOTION PASSES.
[K.2. Ordinance to Repeal Section 66-34 (Bounties for coyotes) of the Warren County Code – Caitlin Jordan]
IS ORDINANCE TO REPEAL SECTION 66 DASH 34 BOUNDARIES FOR COYOTES OF THE WARREN COUNTY CODE, MRS. JORDAN, UM, IN 2000, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT CONNECTION, WARREN ORANGE COUNTY CODE SECTION 66 DASH 34, WHICH AWARDS A $50 BOUNDARY BOUNTY TO ANY PERSON WHO KILLS A COYOTE ACCORDING TO CERTAIN CRITERIA.AND IT SET AN ANNUAL CAP FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF BOUNTIES THAT COULD BE AWARDED WITHIN A GIVEN FISCAL YEAR, SINCE 2010.
THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF COYOTE BOUNTIES AWARDED EACH YEAR HAS OFTEN SURPASSED THE ANNUAL CAP AND ON JULY 16TH, 2019, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AMENDED SECTION 66 DASH 34 D TO INCREASE THE ANNUAL CAP FROM 2000 TO 3000 PER YEAR.
THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS REQUESTED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPEAL SECTION 66 DASH 34 OF THE WARREN COUNTY CODE.
AND I WILL TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO SERGEANT GOMEZ TO EXPLAIN THOSE REASONS.
UM, I HAD BEEN DOING SOME RESEARCH AND I HAD HEARD THAT COYOTE BOUNTIES,
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UM, WERE NOT ACTUALLY TAKING CARE OF THE COYOTE PROBLEM AS INTENDED ORIGINALLY.UM, AND THEN WITH DOING SO, UM, I MADE CONTACT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF GAME AND INLAND FISHERIES AND I SPOKE WITH, UM, MICHAEL FEES.
UM, HE'S TRAVELED KIND OF FAR THIS EVENING TO TALK TO THE BOARD, UM, AND HE CAN GO OVER, UM, SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH COYOTE BOUNTIES AND YOU KNOW, THEIR SUCCESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, HE ALSO, UM, MADE ME AWARE OF A PROGRAM.
SO IF THERE'S CONCERN WITH FARMERS, UM, THAT IS FREE TO THEM THROUGH USDA WHERE THEY WILL ACTUALLY COME OUT, UM, AND HELP IF THEY HAVE THE FARMER HAS A CODY PROBLEM AND IT DOES THAT, NO COST TO THEM.
UM, AND SO WITH THAT, HE IS THE EXPERT IN THIS.
SO IF I CAN HAVE HIM SPEAK AND HE'S READY,
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR I CAN, I CAN JUST GO THROUGH SOME MATERIAL.
HOWEVER, HOWEVER YOU PREFER, WHY DON'T YOU GIVE US INFORMATION? AND THEN IF THERE'S QUESTIONS AFTER THAT, SIR.
UM, BOUNTIES HAVE BEEN IN EFFECT IN THE UNITED STATES FOR 150 PLUS YEARS.
UH, THE VIRGINIA BOUNDARIES HAVE BEEN IN EFFECT SINCE 1999, 1999 WHEN A ENABLING LEGISLATION WAS PASSED BY OUR STATE LEGISLATURE.
AND I GUESS WARREN COUNTY WAS PRETTY, UH, QUICK TO ADOPT A COYOTE ORDINANCE.
IF THEY'RE STARTED IN 2000, CURRENTLY, THERE ARE 17 COUNTIES IN THE STATE THAT HAVE BOUNTIES, UH, ONLY 10, HOWEVER, UH, ACTUALLY HAVE FUNDS THAT ARE ALLOCATED.
THEY MAY STILL HAVE AN ORDINANCE ON THE BOOKS, BUT THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING ANY FUNDS FOR IT.
UH, THE GENERAL OBJECTIVE OF MOST, UH, BOUNTY PROGRAMS IS TO REDUCE HUMAN COYOTE, CONFLICT ISSUES, PRIMARILY LIVESTOCK ISSUES, UH, AND TO REDUCE THE OVERALL COYOTE NUMBERS IN A PRESCRIBED AREA.
SO THAT'S USUALLY WHAT THE, WHAT THE INTENT IS.
UH, DESPITE HAVING BEEN AROUND FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
THERE'S CURRENTLY NO EVIDENCE ANYWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES THAT BOUNTY PROGRAMS HAVE TEMPORARILY OR PERMANENTLY REDUCED CUTTING POPULATIONS OR LIVESTOCK DEPREDATION PROBLEMS, UH, DAMAGES NOT REDUCED BECAUSE COUNTIES DO NOT TARGET THE PROBLEM.
ANIMALS BASICALLY THEY'RE INEFFECTIVE PRIMARILY BECAUSE YOU DON'T KILL ENOUGH ANIMALS WITH A BOUNTY PROGRAM TO REALLY IMPACT THE POPULATION, UH, POPULATE POPULATIONS OF COYOTES THAT ARE NOT REDUCED GREATER THAN 60% IN A SINGLE YEAR, UH, CAN RECOVER THE VERY NEXT YEAR.
UH, THEY'RE VERY PROLIFIC ANIMALS.
THEY'LL EITHER IMMIGRATE FROM OUTSIDE THE AREA THAT YOU'VE IMPACTED OR THEY CAN RAMP UP THEIR REPRODUCTION WITH SOMETHING CALLED DENSITY, DEPENDENT, REPRODUCTION, WHERE THEY, UH, INCREASE THE, THEIR LITTER SIZE.
YOU HAVE MORE JUVENILES THAT BREED HAVE A BETTER JUVENILE SURVIVAL SO THEY CAN RECOVER VERY QUICKLY.
UM, YOUR $3,000 CAP ALLOWS UP FOR UP TO 60 COYOTES TO BE KILLED.
AND REALLY, AND I DON'T KNOW THE POPULATION, THE OVERALL POPULATION OF COYOTES IN THE COUNTY, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THAT IS VERY MUCH LESS THAN THE 60% THAT WOULD BE NEEDED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO CONTROL COYOTE NUMBERS.
YOU ALSO KEEP IN MIND PROBABLY THAT, UH, MANY KYRIES THAT ARE TURNED IN FOR BOUNTIES ARE ANIMALS THAT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN KILLED ANYWAY.
UM, MOST KYRIES ARE KILLED BY HUNTERS ARE KILLED INCIDENTALLY WHILE THEY'RE HUNTING SOMETHING ELSE.
AND THOSE ANIMALS ARE LIKELY TO DIE, WHETHER THERE'S A BOUNTY OR NOT.
AND A LOT OF ANIMALS THAT ARE TURNED IN ARE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TRAPPING FOR, FOR, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST AN EXTRA, UH, EXTRA BONUS, I GUESS, GUESTS FOR THEM.
SO THE REAL QUESTION IS HOW MANY ADDITIONAL COYOTES ARGUE KILLING AS A, AS A RESULT OF THE INCENTIVE FROM A BOUNTY.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY NOT VERY MANY.
UM, SO WHAT CAN YOU DO? THERE'S VIRTUALLY NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO CONTROL COYOTE NUMBERS AT THE LANDSCAPE LEVEL, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF GAME AND FISHERIES AND, UH, THE STATE OF VIRGINIA ALREADY LEGALLY DEFINES COYOTES AS A NUISANCE SPECIES.
THERE'S A CONTINUOUS OPEN HUNTING SEASON, CONTINUOUS OPEN TRAPPING SEASON.
SO THERE'S VERY FEW LEGAL OBSTACLES TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM KILLING COYOTES.
UH, SELECTIVE REMOVAL IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO REDUCE, UH, COYOTE LIVESTOCK ISSUES.
AND AS SERGEANT GOMEZ MENTIONED, THERE IS A CURRENTLY A PROGRAM WITH USDA WILDLIFE SERVICES WHERE
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ANY FARMER WHO'S EXPERIENCING LIVESTOCK LOSSES OR HAS A HISTORY OF LIVESTOCK LOSSES CAN FOR FREE GET THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO SEND A TRAPPER OUT AND TO HELP HIM CONTROL, UH, THE POPULATIONS ON, ON HIS OR HER PROPERTY.SO I GUESS THAT'S SOME GENERAL BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER THEM RIGHT AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR MR. CARTER, YOU JUST ASKED FOR QUESTIONS.
I WAS GOING TO ASK THEM A QUESTION AND SIR, IF YOU WILL, LET ME HAVE A CHANCE.
I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW BECAUSE HE'S GIVEN HIS PRESENTATION AND I'M ASKING NOW I WAS GOING TO ASK THEM A QUESTION BEFORE YOU'RE PROBABLY HEARING, BUT POLICY, SIR, THE INTRODUCTION IS DONE.
OH, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.
AND THEN I ASKED FOR AND DISCUSSIONS WHAT I'M DOING NOW.
SO MR. CARTER, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION I DID FOR HIM.
NO, AND I'M SORRY, YOU, YOU, UH, I'M SORRY, I MISSED YOUR NAME OR MY NAME IS MIKE FEES.
I'M THE FOR BEAR PROJECT LEADER FOR THE OKAY.
CAUSE WE HAD SOME FROM ROBBIE CHESTNUT OR WHATEVER, THE BATH COUNTY ANIMAL CONTROL.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND LIKE I SAID, BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE AND UM, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THIS PROGRAM IN PLACE.
BUT I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AS FAR AS SAYING THAT IT'S NOT REALLY, UH, BENEFICIAL IN THE WHOLE THING.
AND I THINK YOU ALSO MENTIONED AS FAR AS, UM, UM, OTHER THINGS WE COULD DO AND I GUESS, UM, I GUESS, UM, WITH A RELATIVE, UH, AGRICULTURAL AREA, WE HAVE, EVEN THOUGH IT KIND OF SHRINKS, WE ALSO HAVE OTHER THINGS AND IT'S MAY BE A SIDELIGHT.
UM, CAUSE I THINK WE ALSO HAVE IT ON THE BOOKS.
MAYBE MR. HAM CAN LOOK AT THAT TOO.
AS FAR AS I THINK WE WOULD PAY FOR, UH, CHICKENS HAVE BEEN KILLED, UH, SHE, THE WHOLE THING.
SO WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT THAT TOO, AS FAR AS DO WE WANNA, YOU KNOW, TAKE THAT OFF THE BOOKS AS WELL? NOT THAT IT'S COME UP RECENTLY, BUT NO, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS PROGRAM IS NOT WORKING, SO WHAT CAN, WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE IT WORK? AND YOU'VE ALREADY COVERED THAT.
AND THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN FOR ALLOWING MY QUESTION.
DOES ANYONE ELSE FROM THE BOARD HAVE A QUESTION? MADAM CHAIR? YES, SIR.
UM, I'VE ACTUALLY GOT A COUPLE AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LANG NO PROBLEM.
YOU SAID THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE POPULATION WAS OF THE TIRE.
I COULD ESTIMATE FOR YOU IF YOU'D LIKE, OKAY.
HOW MANY, UM, I'LL TELL YOU HOW I, HOW I WOULD COME TO THE ASSESSMENT.
FIRST OF ALL, A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE, I BELIEVE FOR WARREN COUNTY WOULD BE ABOUT TWO KYRIES PER SQUARE MILE OVERALL, AND YOU HAVE 213 SQUARE MILES OF LAND AREA FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
UM, AND THAT WOULD EQUATE TO ABOUT 426 COYOTES.
AND ADMITTEDLY, THIS IS A GUESSTIMATE THAT GAMED, THE DEPARTMENT OF WILDLIFE RESOURCES DOES NOT MAKE A HABIT OF TRYING TO ESTIMATE OVERALL POPULATIONS.
WE LOOK AT TRENDS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, HARVEST STATISTICS, THAT KIND OF THING.
BUT IT'S RARE THAT WE ACTUALLY TRIED TO COME UP WITH A POPULATION ESTIMATE, BUT A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE, I WOULD SAY WOULD BE 426 COUNTIES.
WE KILLED 60 BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE A $3,000 LIMIT.
SO IF WE INCREASED OUR CAP, WOULD WE NOT INCREASE OUR LIMIT? WELL, YOU'D HAVE TO GET OVER THAT 60% ANNUALLY.
60% OF, OF 426, WHATEVER, WHATEVER THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULDN'T BE A POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO HER ERADICATE PROBLEMS IF IT WAS POSSIBLE.
CERTAINLY IF IT WAS POSSIBLE TO CONTINUOUSLY, UH, REDUCE THE POPULATION BY GREATER THAN 60% ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, THEN YOU COULD HAVE AN IMPACT.
YOU HAD ALSO MENTIONED SELECTIVE REDUCTION AND THAT WOULD BE THIRD YEAR.
UM, YOUR GOVERNMENT PROGRAM OF THOSE THAT ARE CAPTURED, WHAT DO THEY DO WITH THEM? ARE THEY DESTROYED? YES.
WELL, OR, OR LEFT TO THE, USUALLY LEFT TO THE FARMER FOR THEIR DISPOSAL.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? JUST ONE OTHER.
IF, IF, IF, IF WE CONTINUE WITH THIS PROGRAM WOULD THEN NOT REDUCE THE POPULATION, WHICH WOULD ULTIMATELY HELP OR NOT, IF WE JUST DO AWAY WITH IT.
AND LIKE YOU SAID, I THINK TOO WAS THAT, UH, PEOPLE WOULD STILL CONTINUE TO HUNT TRAP OR WHATEVER.
SO IT MAY NOT MAKE THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE.
AND I NOTICED IN SOME OF THESE THINGS TOO, THERE'S ACTUALLY MANY PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY THAT HAVE, UM, MITIGATED
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THE COYOTE PROBLEM AND THEY STILL GET $50.SO I GUESS THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION IS IF WE CONTINUE THAT PROGRAM, WOULD THAT NOT HELP IN THE BIGGER SCHEME OF THINGS OR IT DOESN'T MATTER? I WOULD SAY IT DOESN'T MATTER AT THE SCALE FOR WHICH THE ANIMALS ARE KILLED, THAT IT'S NOT IMPACTING THE POPULATION.
SO REALLY, UH, IT'S HAVING, HAVING NO IMPACT.
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR EXPERTISE.
MADAM CHAIR, HOW MANY CALLS DO YOU GET OR WHO GETS THESE CALLS THAT A COYOTE IS DESTROYING LIVESTOCK ON A FARM? HOW MANY CALLS DO WE GET IN WARREN COUNTY? COULD YOU COME BACK UP TO THE PODIUM PLEASE? JUST SO THAT EVERYONE CAN HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
IF THERE'S A LOT WITH THE LIVESTREAM.
UM, SO I'VE BEEN DOING ANIMAL CONTROL NOW GOING 13, ALMOST 14 YEARS.
UM, AND DURING MY CAREER, I HAVE HAD TWO FARMERS WHO HAVE CALLED NOT KNOWING WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS ACTUALLY DOMESTICATED DOGS.
UM, OR IF IT WAS COYOTES THAT WERE ATTACKING THEIR LIVESTOCK, UM, HAD ONE FARMER WHO HAD A CALF, UM, AND HE SET UP GAME CAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT WE NEVER FOUND COYOTES COMING THROUGH HIS PROPERTY ON GAME CAMS. UM, AND THEN ANOTHER FARMER HAD ONE COW THAT WAS KILLED, BUT HE WAS NOT SURE BUT ASSUMED IT WAS A COYOTE.
SO OUT OF 13 YEARS HERE, YOU'VE HAD TWO PHONE CALLS ABOUT COYOTE AND I, AND I CAN'T SPEAK ON OTHER ANIMAL TROUGH OFFICERS IF THEY'VE HANDLED A CALL SIMILAR.
UM, BUT WE USUALLY TALK AMONGST EACH OTHER.
AND I DO NOT RECALL ANY CONVERSATIONS OF SUCH IS YES, SIR.
HOW MANY DOGS ARE REPORTED KILLED
UM, WE DID RECENTLY IN THE LAST YEAR HAVE A GENTLEMAN WHO HAD A STRAY DOG IN HIS TRASH.
HE ASSUMED IT WAS A COYOTE AND HE SHOT IT.
UM, IT DID FORTUNATELY SURVIVE.
HOW MANY, HOW MANY DOGS ARE ACTUALLY KILLED BY THE CAT? OTHERS? OH, DOGS KILLED BY COYOTES.
NO, THE ONLY THING THAT I DO GET REPORTS ON IS COYOTE IS GETTING CATS.
WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY THAT THERE'S PROBABLY A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO MAY BE KILLING THEM AND JUST NOT EVEN BOTHERING WITH THE BOUNTY? YES MA'AM.
SO WE DON'T HAVE NUMBERS TO TRACK THAT NOW.
OKAY, MRS. SHIRAKI HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP FROM THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK? YES.
MADAM CHAIR, AMOS MITCHELL POINT OF ORDER.
DID YOU ACTUALLY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? YES, I DID.
THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING PATIENT.
I LIVE AT 36 37 MOUNTAIN ROAD FROM THE, WELL, EXCUSE ME.
I HAVE TWO FARMS. UH, ONE WHERE I LIVE AND ANOTHER ONE DOWN THERE.
DAN ON THE NORTH FORK HAS SHUT THE DOOR AND THE GENTLEMAN JUST SPOKEN.
HE HADN'T BEEN ON A FARM MUCH.
I COULD TELL SOME HIS STUFF FROM BOOKS AND THERE ARE A LOT OF COYOTES.
I KNOW YOU CAN'T KILL THEM ALL.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO KILL ALL THE COYOTES.
UH, I KNOW THAT WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN KILLING AND SHOOTING THEM AND TRACKING THEM FOR YEARS.
AND I GUESS MY BOTTOM LINE IS I, I THINK IT,
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I THINK THAT THE BAN IS, SHOULD CONTINUE.THE PEOPLE HUNTING OR PEOPLE TRAPPING GIVES HIM SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO.
AND YOU PICK OUT A FEW BUCKS TOO.
IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NOT REALLY THAT EXPENSIVE, BUT THEY, I HAVE A COW YEARS AGO, NOT TOO MANY YEARS AGO HAD A CAB.
THEY DRUG IT OFF, DRUG IT OFF.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WENT, BUT THERE SHE WAS.
IT WASN'T OKAY IF I WERE WITH HER ANYWAY, THERE'S COYOTE IS ON THE RIVER.
YOU CAN HEAR HIM HAL AND DOWN THERE.
AND I, I LIVE ABOUT TWO MILES, A THREE BY THREE MILES FROM THERE.
I GUESS YOU OPEN YOUR BACK DOOR, MR. FOX.
YOU PROBABLY HEAR HIM HOLLER TOO.
ANYWAY, I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO GET RID OF THEM.
AND IF YOU WANT TO FM IT ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT WHILE HE'S TALKING ABOUT TRAPPING THEM, WELL, EVERYBODY, ANYBODY CAN TRAP HIM, BUT LET HIM, LET HIM PEOPLE DO THAT AND KEEP THE, KEEP THE BOUNTY TOO, OR GIVE YOU SOME SOMETHING, SOME INCENTIVES TO KILL THE DARN THINGS.
AND IF WE DON'T, THEY'RE THEY, THEY MULTIPLY LIKE RABBITS OR FRANKLY, AND YOU CAN'T, LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN'T GET THEM HALL.
AND EVENTUALLY IF THEY GET RABIES, WE ALL BETTER LOOK OUT FOR YOUR PETS, YOUR DOGS, CATS, OR ANYTHING AND YOURSELVES.
SO I RECOMMENDED WE LEAVE THE BOUNTY ON IT FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER FIVE YEARS AND SEE WE CAN ALL JUST WORK TOGETHER IF WE CAN LOWER THE POPULATION.
THESE RASCALS APPRECIATE THE TIME.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND BEING HERE.
SO LIKE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, UM, FROM THE BOARD OR IF NOT, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVED THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS NOT ADOPT THE ORDINANCE TO REPEAL WARREN COUNTY CODE, SECTION 66 DASH 34 BOUNDARIES FOR COYOTES, BUT FURTHER LOOK INTO ALTERNATIVE METHODS TO, TO REDUCE THE PROBLEM OF COYOTE IN, IN WARREN COUNTY.
DO I HAVE SECOND ONE SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI DISCUSSION.
NO, WE DIDN'T HAVE A DISCUSSION AFTER THE MOTION.
I'M ASKING FOR DISCUSSION NOW.
AND I JUST WANT TO, UH, CLARIFY THE MOTION MADE BY MR. MAY THAT YOU MOVED, THAT WE DO NOT ADOPT THE ORDINANCE TO REPEAL, CORRECT, SIR.
BUT THEN YOU ALSO ADDED SOMETHING ON THERE TOO, AS FAR AS LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE MO UH, ALTERNATIVE, UH, METHODS AND MEASURES, IS THAT CORRECT, SIR, TO REDUCE THE PROBLEM AND MOURN OKAY.
BUT YOU DID NOT, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO MM, GET INTO TOO MUCH, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ALTERNATIVE METHODS ARE AT THIS POINT.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT OPEN FOR DISCUSSION THAT AT A LATER TIME AND DON'T GET ME WRONG.
I AGREE WITH YOU MOTION TO, TO WAIT AND SEE.
AND I THINK MAYBE, AND THERE AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE EXPERT THAT CAME THERE TO, UH, TO EXPLAIN THINGS.
AND ALSO THE SHERIFF'S DEPUTY.
UH, I THINK IT'S, IT'S WORTHWHILE EXTENDING THAT.
SOMEBODY SAID IT, UH, FIVE YEARS.
I THINK THE GENTLEMAN SPOKE SAID FIVE YEARS, BUT I WOULD THINK WE, WE, WE GO FROM HERE AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, A YEAR TO REEVALUATE AND SEE IF IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL OR NOT, BECAUSE I, I, I DO BELIEVE IN AGREEMENT WITH, UM, MR. MA THAT, UH, LET'S GIVE IT A YEAR AND SEE IF IT'S ACTUALLY HELPED OR NOT.
AND THERE AGAIN WHAT'S TODAY, JANUARY 19TH.
SO MR. MAJOR MARKED DOWN ON CALENDAR THAT I ACTUALLY AGREED WITH YOU.
SO WE'LL GO FROM THERE, BUT I, I SUPPORT MR. MAY'S MOTION, MADAM CHAIR.
UH, I THINK I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
I KNOW THIS IS WITH US NOW, BUT, UH, IF WE POSSIBLY INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF BOUNTY, UH, WOULD THAT HAVE AN IMPACT, COULD THAT HAVE AN IMPACT, A BETTER IMPACT IF WE, IF WE WERE ACTUALLY INCREASING IT, SAY THREE TIMES AS MUCH AS, AS WHAT'S BEING PAID NOW?
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YEAH.COULD WE GET AN ANSWER? I HAVE A CHAIRMAN, UM, INCREASING THE INCENTIVE, UM, UH, PERHAPS WOULD, WOULD RESULT IN MORE COYOTES KILLED.
UM, AND THE MARK IOT'S KILLED THE CLOSER YOU GET TO THAT 60% THRESHOLD THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO REDUCE, UH, COYOTE NUMBERS.
UM, SO YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WOULD BE, UM, THAT WOULD HELP INCREASE THE NUMBER OF KILLED, BUT I DOUBT THAT IT WOULD, IT WOULD CHANGE THE END RESULT, RIGHT? IT COULD LOWER THE POPULATION, RIGHT.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, LIKE I SAY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KILL AN EXCESS OF 60% EVERY YEAR OF THE TOTAL POPULATION IN ORDER TO HAVE A LONGTERM SUSTAINABLE IMPACT.
ACCORDING TO THE INFORMATION IT'S NOT, NOT JUST, JUST ME.
THIS IS, THIS COMES FROM USDA WILDLIFE SERVICES FOLKS AND THE LIVESTOCK PROTECTION PROGRAM WHO WORK ON THESE FARMS EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY DAY.
AND IT COMES FROM, UH, FOR A BEAR BIOLOGISTS AND WILDLIFE PROFESSIONALS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
UH, THERE'S UNIVERSAL, UM, LACK OF SUPPORT FOR BOUNTIES AS A CONTROL MEASURE FOR COYOTES ACROSS THE NATION.
SO WHY IS THAT? CAN YOU, CAN YOU ASK ANSWER WHY THERE'S A LACK OF SUPPORT FOR BOUNDARIES BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK, BUT YEAH, BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THE OTHER MEASURES THAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED WORK EITHER.
SO I'M WONDERING, SO WHAT I'M WONDERING IS, IS THERE A COMBINATION OF BOUNTIES AND OTHER METHODS THAT IF WERE UTILIZED IN TANDEM MIGHT WORK TO ERADICATE THE NUISANCE OF COYOTES IN AN AREA, UH, TO REDUCE THE CODY NUMBERS ON A LANDSCAPE SCALE IS UNIVERSALLY AGREED UPON TO BE FEUDAL THAT, THAT, THAT YOU CAN'T KILL ENOUGH OF THEM, THAT THE MEASURES ARE NOT THERE TO KILL ENOUGH OF THEM TO REDUCE THEM AT THE LANDSCAPE SCALE.
SO WE'VE KIND OF GIVEN UP ON THAT.
SO, SO YOU'RE THE MEASURE THAT'S LEFT REALLY IS THE TARGETED APPROACH TO REDUCE.
YOU CAN REDUCE THEM AT THE FARM LEVEL AND, BUT NOT AT THE LANDSCAPE LEVEL.
SO IF YOU TARGET YOUR APPROACH TO THE ANIMALS THAT ARE CAUSING THE PROBLEMS, THAT'S THE SOLUTION.
I GUESS THAT'S GENERALLY RECOGNIZED BY WILDLIFE PROFESSIONALS AND THE USDA WILDLIFE SERVICES, AND IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE THEM.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANTED TO CONTINUE TO, TO PROVIDE MONEY, YOU COULD PAY PRIVATE TRAPPERS TO HELP OUT FARMERS IN A TARGETED AREA, YOU KNOW, AREAS THAT ARE HAVING LIVESTOCK PROBLEMS OR, UH, AREAS THAT HAVE A HISTORY OF LIVESTOCK, UH, ISSUES FROM COYOTE.
SO, UM, IT'S JUST SIMPLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE OPPOSED TO, TO THE PROGRAM IN ITSELF.
IT'S JUST THAT WE, WE RECOGNIZE THAT IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY, ANY POPULATION REDUCTION BENEFITS.
AND THAT'S USUALLY THE OBJECTIVE OF, UH, OF A BOUNTY OR AT LEAST THE PERCEIVED OBJECTIVE OF, OF A BOUNTY IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY REDUCE COYOTE NUMBERS ON, ON SOME PREDEFINED AREA OF INTEREST.
AND LIKE I SAY, 150 PLUS YEARS, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON, AND THERE'S NOT A SINGLE INSTANCE WHERE IT HAS RESULTED IN, IN EVEN TEMPORARY OR LONG-TERM, UM, POPULATION REDUCTIONS.
I APPRECIATE YOU, UM, MEASURING THE EFFICACY OF A GOVERNMENT OR A PROGRAM THAT'S A VERY FIRST YEAR, TYPICALLY NOBODY EVER MEASURES THE OUTCOMES.
THEY JUST LET THE PROGRAM CONTINUE IN INFANT NITEL.
SO LIKE I SAID, I LIKE TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CONTINUE ON FOR YEAR AND THERE AGAIN, UH, THE GENTLEMEN HAS GIVEN US A LOT OF, UH, FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
AND I GUESS TO GO ALONG WITH, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT, UH, IN THE FUTURE, BUT I GUESS WITH, UH, MR. FOX'S SUGGESTION, AS FAR AS INCREASING IT.
SO, AND AGAIN, THE 3000 IS NOT A BIG BUDGET BUG BUSTER FOR, FOR, FOR, FOR THE COUNTY.
BUT MAYBE IF MR. FOX WANTS TO THINK ABOUT IT, WE CAN GO IN AND MAKE THE, UH, CODY BOUNTY A MILLION DOLLARS PER, UH, AND WE'LL SEE IF THAT WILL, UH, UH, REDUCE THE POPULATION.
AND I AM BEING FACETIOUS, BUT NO, I APPRECIATE THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND I'M READY TO VOTE FOR IT.
I WAS GONNA SAY, UM, MR. MABE, DO YOU WANT TO AMEND YOUR MOTION OR DO YOU WANT IT TO STAND OR IS THERE A NEW MOTION ON THE TABLE AFTER MUCH DISCUSSION? HE HAD THE MOST, AND I CALLED FOR THE QUESTION.
AND WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT PLEASE? AFTER, SO WE ALL HAVE CLARITY.
I LOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS NOT ADOPT THE ORDINANCE
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TO REPEAL WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTION 66 DASH 34, BOUNTIES FOR COYOTES AND LOOK INTO IT.ALTERNATE METHODS TO REDUCE THE PROBLEM IN MORGAN COUNTY.
SHIRAKI MR. MAYOR, MR. FOX, RIGHT? MADAM CHAIR.
[K.3. Conditional Use Permit 2020-10-01, David and Nita Sudlow for a Church – Matt Wendling]
ITEM.CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2020 DASH 10 DASH OH ONE.
DAVID ANITA SAID LOAD FOR A CHURCH.
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UM, THE APPLICANTS ARE REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR EACH CHURCH TO BE USED AS A CHAPEL FOR WORSHIP SERVICES AND BIBLE STUDY.
THEY HAVE REQUESTED TO HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 49 DOCUMENTS AT ANY ONE TIME AND ATTENDANCE.
UH, THE APPLICANTS DO CURRENTLY USE THE ASSESSORY STRUCTURE ON THEIR PROPERTY AS A GARAGE AND CHAPEL FOR FAMILY DEVOTIONAL AND RELIGIOUS STUDY.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 1,728 SQUARE FEET.
UH, THEY DO PLAN TO MAKE SOME MINOR RENOVATIONS TO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE IN ORDER TO USE IT AS A CHAPEL FACILITY AND INCLUDES UPGRADES TO THE EXISTING SEPTIC SYSTEM AND HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE RESTROOM.
UH, VIETNAM HAS SENT COMMENTS THAT THE EXISTING ENTRANCE DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIRED SITE DISTANCE, UH, FOR THE PROPOSED USE, BUT IN ADJACENT, UH, ENTRANCE TO THIS PROPERTY TO THE WEST CAN BE UPGRADED AND WIDENED TO MEET THEIR REQUIREMENT FOR A LOW VOLUME COMMERCIAL STANDARD.
UH, THE ADJACENT ENTRANCE WILL NEED TO BE UPGRADED BY A V DOT UNDER V DOT PERMIT, AND THAT PERMIT CANDY HAD, UH, SHABBY OBTAINED BEFORE ANY WORK IS PERFORMED ON THE STAGE RIGHT AWAY.
UM, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT COMMENTS STATE THAT THE PROPOSED, UH, SOIL WORK AND A SEPTIC SYSTEM CAN ACCOMMODATE AN ADDITIONAL 255 GALLONS PER DAY OR 49 PEOPLE AT FIVE GALLONS PER DAY, WHERE THE PROPOSED CHAPEL, UM, IT CAN ALSO, UH, ACCOMMODATE THE ADDITIONAL 150 GALLONS PER DAY FOR A ONE BEDROOM, TWO PERSON OCCUPANCY LIVING UNIT, WHICH WOULD BE THE GUEST HOUSE, UH, WHICH IS OUR NEXT CUP.
UM, OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL MR. BEAM, UH, MENTIONED THAT THE REQUEST WOULD REQUIRE A CHANGE OF USE AND OCCUPANCY TO UTILIZE A STRUCTURE THAT WAS BUILT AS A DETACHED GARAGE IN ORDER TO USE IT FOR A CHAPEL.
A PLANNING COMMISSION HAS MOVED THIS FORWARD, UH, WITH THEIR APPROVAL, WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, THE CHAPEL NUMBER ONE, THE CHAPEL OCCUPANCY SHALL NOT EXCEED THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS TO DETERM, BE DETERMINED BY THE VIRGINIA UNIFORM STATEWIDE BUILDING CODE AND VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH APPROVAL FOR AN ONSITE SEWAGE SYSTEM.
NUMBER TWO, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS, UH, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT TRANSPORTATION OR COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.
THESE INCLUDE THE BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR SMOKING FIRE DETECTOR SYSTEM AND CHANGE OF USE AND OCCUPANCY TO THE AUTHORIZED USE GROUP.
AND NUMBER THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL MEET THE REQUIRED REQUIREMENTS FOR THE WARREN COUNTY, UH, ZONING CODE SECTION ONE 80 15 FOR OFF STREET PARKING FOR A CHURCH, WHICH REQUIRES ONE PARKING SPACE PER FOR FIXED SEATS.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN ADVERTISED.
UH, JASON PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, AND THE APPLICANTS ARE ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WOULD THE APPLICANTS LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS FROM THE BOARD? I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION CHAIRMAN.
UM, IN YOUR, IN YOUR STATEMENT OF JUSTIFICATION AND ALSO ON YOUR APPLICATION, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT 49 PERSONS, WHICH I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, BUT IN YOUR APPLICATION, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION, YOU HAD, YOU HAD MENTIONED THE NUMBER OF PERSONS SERVED BY SEWAGE DISPOSAL SYSTEM AT 58, WHICH IS IT?
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MY NAME IS DAVIDI LIVE AT 64 35 STRASBURG ROAD.
AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR QUITE A TIME NOW, ALREADY, BUT ANYWAY, UH, THE 58 I BELIEVE WAS CAME WAS, UH, REACHED BY THE, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT OR THAT, OR THE, UH, THE FIRM THAT WE HIRED TO, UH, DO ALL THE DESIGN OF WHAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
UM, WELL, THE 58 IS IN YOUR WRITING, NOT IN ANY TYPE OF FORM WITHIN OUR APPLICATION.
I'M SORRY, BUT, UH, I DON'T, I, IT DOESN'T REALLY DOESN'T HIT ME AS SOMETHING THAT, UH, I PUT INTO THE APPLICATION.
I CHOSE 49 JUST BECAUSE THAT WAS, UM, I FELT THAT THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE WHEN I IN TROUBLE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TWO NUMBERS.
SO IN CASE SOMETHING GOES SIDEWAYS FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.
UM, I WAS ALSO TOLD BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT THAT, UH, UH, THEY WILL, UH, JUDGE, UH, THE SUITABILITY OF THE BUILDING ON, ON HOW, HOW, HOW MUCH FORCE SPACE THERE IS.
AND, UH, SO IT ACTUALLY WOULD ALLOW FOR MUCH MORE THAN 49.
SO, UH, I JUST WANT IT, WE JUST WANT TO, UH, WE JUST WANT TO DO, WE DON'T WANT TO ENLARGE THE STRUCTURE.
WE JUST WANT TO DO, UH, MEET ALL THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY REQUIREMENTS TO, UH, TO, UM, TO COVER ALL THE BASES.
AND, UH, IF, IF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT PUTS THE OCCUPANCY AT 60, THAT'S FINE TOO.
MAY I JUST INTERJECT THE, UH, LORD FAIRFAX HEALTH DISTRICT COMMENTS TO US STATE THAT THE MAIN DWELLING WILL REMAIN A FIVE-BEDROOM STRUCTURE, BUT OCCUPANCY CAN INCREASE THE EIGHT PERSONS OR 600 GALLONS PER DAY MAXIMUM.
UH, POSSIBLY THEY WERE LOOKING AT THAT ADDITION TO THE 49.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WERE MUST BE IT.
JUST WONDERING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT THE NUMBERS.
SO IT DOESN'T COME BACK AND HAUNT US LATER.
WE'LL SERVE, UH, HIS PRIMARY DWELLING AND THE GUEST HOUSE AND THE CHAPEL.
SO IT'S A SINGLE, IT'S ALL I NEEDED.
THANK YOU, MR. SIDEWALL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION THE ONE, IF YOU WILL, UH, AND PARKING, WHETHER IT BE AN ISSUE WITH, WITH PARKING OR WOULD THERE BE PARKING ON THE GRASS, OR YOU'VE GOT PLENTY OF ROOM FOR PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE, UM, OF THE, UH, COUNTY ARE THAT, UH, YOU HAVE TO HAVE PARKING SPACES, UH, THAT WERE ON A PAVE SERVICE SURFACE.
AND, UM, SO, UH, WE ARE PLANNING A 19 TOTAL SPACIOUS BASIS, WHICH WOULD MORE THAN COVER THE, THE 58 I BELIEVE.
AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT THE EXISTING SITUATION.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA OPEN UP A LINE NEXT TO THE DRIVEWAY.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO, YOU'RE NOT BUILDING A BIG PARKING LOT.
MR. FOX, I WASN'T ON THE PROPERTY INITIALLY.
AND, UH, THERE IS SUFFICIENT ROOM FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES.
THERE'S, THERE'S SOME PAVED AREAS AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BUT, UH, YEAH, THERE IS SUFFICIENT ROOM FOR, FOR, UH, SOME PAVED BETTY TO BE TAKEN CARE OF AT SOME POINT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? MRS. SHIRAKI HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP? NOBODY I'M CHAIR.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? SECOND CALL ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THIRD CALL? OKAY.
PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED CHAIR.
I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST OF DAVID ANITA SAID LOW WHITE CHAPEL CHURCH WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.
I'LL SECOND THAT ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MR. MABE.
[K.4. Conditional Use Permit 2020-10-03, David and Nita Sudlow for a Guesthouse – Matt Wendling]
NEXT IS CONDITIONAL USE 2020 DASH 10 DASH OH THREE, DAVID AND NITA SAID LOW FOR A GUEST HOUSE.THE AFRICANS ARE REQUESTING, UH, THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN ORDER TO RENOVATE A SMALL HORSE BARN THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE PARTIALLY RENOVATED AS AN OFFICE AND WORKSHOP.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE AN ADDITIONAL BEDROOM IN THE STRUCTURE FOR FAMILY AND FRIENDS
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TO STAY DURING VISITS.UH, THE STRUCTURE CURRENTLY DOES HAVE AN OUTSTANDING ELECTRICAL PERMIT.
WE'LL NEED THAT, AND WE'LL NEED A PLUMBING PERMIT FOR THE BATHROOM.
UH, THE SOIL WORK IS TIED TO THIS GUEST HOUSE.
UM, IN 2013, A BUILDING PERMIT WAS ISSUED TO ADD A SECOND FLOOR ROOF AND TWO PORCHES TO THE EXISTING BARN.
THESE WORK, THIS WAS COMPLETED AND THE PERMIT WAS CLOSED OUT.
UM, THE UPSTAIRS BE USED AS THE BEDROOM, SUITE AND OFFICE.
UH, WE HAVE RECEIVED THE COMMENTS FROM THE BUILDING OFFICIAL.
ONE OF THE ITEMS IS JUST THAT THE REQUEST WOULD REQUIRE ALL PERMITS TO BE APPLIED FOR, FOR A CHANGE OF VIEWS FROM WORKSHOP AND, UH, STORAGE TO REQUEST REQUESTED USE AS A GUEST HOUSE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH THE UNANIMOUS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
NUMBER ONE, THE GUEST HOUSE SHALL NOT BE USED FOR FULL-TIME OCCUPANCY.
UH, NUMBER TWO, THE ASSESSORY DWELLING SHALL NOT BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL RENTAL OR LEASING OF ROOMS FOR COMPENSATION OF ANY KIND.
NUMBER THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS, WHICH INCLUDE BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR A SMOKE AND FIRE DETECTOR SYSTEM.
NUMBER FOUR, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE A CONDITION PLACED ON THE DEED AT THE TIME OF TRANSFER OF THE PROPERTY TO A NEW OWNER THAT THIS IS A NON-COMMERCIAL GUEST HOUSE AND RENTAL OR LEASING OF THE DWELLING FOR MONETARY COMPENSATION IS PROHIBITED.
AND THAT IT IS LIMITED TO PART-TIME OCCUPANCY UP TO SIX MONTHS IN A CALENDAR YEAR.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED.
I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WAS YEAH.
UH, IF YOU WILL, SIR, THESE, THESE CONDITIONS, ALL YOUR CONDITIONS THAT YOU'RE, YOU'VE JUST STATED, UH, WITH ALL OF THESE BE MET BEFORE OCCUPATION OCCUPATION, COULD IT PERMIT WOULD BE ISSUED, IS THAT, IS THAT THE UNDERSTANDING NUMBER FOUR IS BASICALLY TO GIVE NOTICE TO THE NEW NEXT PROPERTY OWNER, THAT THIS IS A GUEST HOUSE FOR NON-COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.
THE REASON WHY IF THEY GO TO SELL THE PROPERTY A REALTOR, YOU KNOW, THE SELLER CANNOT SAY THIS CAN BE RENTED OUT OR USED EVEN AS A SHORT TERM, TOURIST RUNAWAY.
THIS AIN'T THE WAY OUR DEFINITION IS FOR NON COMMERCIAL USE.
UH, IT CANNOT BE USED FULL TIME.
WE USE SIX MONTHS AS KIND OF A GAUGE.
UH, WE, WE CAN BE A LITTLE FLEXIBLE IN THAT IF THERE'S A FAMILY ISSUE, THE FAMILY NEEDS HOUSING, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WE'LL WORK WITH THEM, BUT TYPICALLY THAT'S KIND OF OUR GAUGE FOR THAT.
PART-TIME SO ESSENTIALLY THAT'S TO PROTECT THE NEXT PROPERTY OWNER AND ALSO THE APPLICANTS, JUST TO SAY, THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED AS A NON-COMMERCIAL DWELLINGS.
SO THEN YOU WOULD ISSUE THE PERMIT LIKE, WELL, THE, WELL, THE BUILDING PERMITS COULD BE ISSUED.
EVERYTHING COULD BE ISSUED IN THE, I BELIEVE THE OCCUPANCY COULD BE ISSUED THE GUEST HOUSE.
THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE BUILDING.
BUT I THINK ALONG THE SAME LINES, WHAT MR. FOX IS SAYING, I HAD THE SAME QUESTION.
THIS COULD BE USED FOR FAMILY MEMBERS, WHATEVER, IF IT WAS TURNED INTO A BNB, WHICH I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE ANY INTENT TO DO AT THIS TIME, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK FOR US FOR ADDITIONAL CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN I HAD FOR IT.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK, OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS FROM THE BOARD FOR THE APPLICANT MRS. ROCKEY, DID ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK? NO.
ABOUT I'M CHAIR, PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST OF DAVID ANITA, SETTLE FOR A GUEST HOUSE WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT STAFF SECOND, MRS. RUSSIA.
ROCKY, CAN YOU DO A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. CARTER? YES, MA'AM MISS OATS.
HI, MR. FOX, MR. MABE MOTION PASSES.
[K.5. Lease of County-Owned Property Located at 229 Stokes Airport Road – Doug Parsons]
NEXT ITEM.LEASE OF COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED AT TWO 29 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD, MR. PARSONS.
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GOOD EVENING.UM, YES, AS PART OF THE, UM, THE SUCCESSFUL RECRUITMENT OF SILENT FALCON TO WARREN COUNTY, UH, THEY WISHED TO ENTER INTO A LEASE WITH THE COUNTY FOR APPROXIMATELY 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING AND LAND, UH, WHICH WOULD BE BUILDING D AT THE FRONT ROYAL WARREN COUNTY AIRPORT.
THAT'S CURRENTLY THE COUNTY'S MAINTENANCE SHED.
UM, IT'S ABOUT A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, BUT THEY WOULD ALSO LIKE TO LEASE ANOTHER 4,000 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND IN CASE THEY WOULD DECIDE TO EXPAND THE BUILDING AFTER THEY, AFTER THEY RENOVATE IT.
UM, THE LEASE AS CURRENTLY STRUCTURED, UH, WOULD BE $500 A MONTH FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS.
AND THEN THAT RATE WOULD BE SUBJECT TO CHANGES BASED ON THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX AT THE THREE-YEAR MARK AND THE SIX YEAR MARK.
UM, SO RIGHT NOW, UM, WE, WE HAD A LEASE, UH, THAT THE CLIENT HAD HAD SIGNED IN AN ADVANCED TO SHOW A COMMITMENT TO THE PROJECT.
UM, WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO MOBILE, DEFINITELY NEED TO ADJUST THE START DATE ON BELIEFS, UM, TO REFLECT THE TIME AT WHICH THE BUILDING BECOMES A HABITABLE FOR OCCUPATION ON ONCE WE GET THE FLOOR POURED AND EVERYTHING IN IT.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY CHANGE TO, TO LEASE IS JUST ADJUSTING THE START DATE AND THE DATE OF CONCEPTION ONCE THE COUNTY SIGNS IT, I GET THAT RIGHT, MR. HAM.
SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE MOTION WE HAVE MOVED, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE, APPROVE THE LEASE.
UH, YOU KNOW, ACID STATED IN THERE WITH A START DATE TO BE DETERMINED, UM, BECAUSE THE DATE IN THE APPROVED IN THE LEASE IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE 5TH OF OCTOBER, 2020, WHICH OBVIOUSLY HAS PASSED.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S A FLOOR OR SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT DOWN, SO THEY DON'T EVEN WANT IT TO, TO BECOME, UH, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.
ANYWAY, THIS TIME I OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS FROM THE BOARD FROM MR. PARSONS IS THAT THE ONLY ADJUSTMENT TO THE LEASE IS JUST THE START DATE.
MR. OBLIQUE, MR. HANS REVIEWED IT PREVIOUSLY.
YEAH, ONE OF MY, MY PARTNER, JASON BALKANS.
THIS HAS BEEN REVIEWED ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION IF YOU WILL.
AND I NOTICED THAT THERE'S BE A LOT OF, A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING.
AND I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IS THE SPACE THAT BEING PROPOSED, IS THAT GOING TO, IS THAT LARGE ENOUGH FOR THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT'S GOING TO BE WORKING OUT THERE? OR IS IT GOING TO TAKE UP EXPANSION TO EXPAND, TO GIVE THEM MORE SPACE FOR WHAT MIGHT BE NEEDED? RIGHT.
SO, SO THE CLIENT WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OFFICE ENOUGH AND US HAS PROJECTED 249 JOBS OVER THREE YEARS.
UM, THEY'RE THINKING 40 TO 50 TO FIRST YEAR AND THEN RAMPING UP FROM THERE.
I KNOW THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT, UM, TRAFFIC JAMS AND LINES OF CARS GOING INTO THE FACILITY.
AND THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE BECAUSE PEOPLE PROBABLY THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO BE 249 PEOPLE GOING TO THE AIRPORT EVERY DAY.
THERE WILL BE A LIMITED NUMBER OF PEOPLE AT THE AIRPORT AND AT THE HANGAR, THEY'LL JUST BE THE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THE ASSEMBLY, MANUFACTURING AND TESTING OF THE, THE CARBON FIBER UAVS, THE CLIENT PLANS TO TAKE OFFICE SPACE OFF SITE SOMEWHERE, EITHER IN FRONT ROYAL OR ELSEWHERE.
IN WARREN COUNTY, THERE WERE PLANNING ON HAVING APPROXIMATELY 20 TO 30 PEOPLE BY THE END OF THE YEAR, PHYSICALLY IN THE OFFICES, THEY WOULD BE SOFTWARE ENGINEERS AND DEVELOPERS.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE MAIN CONCENTRATION OF FOLKS WOULD BE.
UM, THERE WILL ALSO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE EMPLOYED REMOTELY.
AND THEN A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THE COMPANY WHO WILL BE ACROSS THE COUNTRY ON VARIOUS JOB SITES.
SO THIS COMPANY DOES RECONNAISSANCE FOR THE GOVERNMENT FOR FIREFIGHTING, UH, ILLEGAL POACHING.
UM, THEY ALSO HAVE A TECHNOLOGY THAT SCANS PAVEMENT, ESPECIALLY AIRPORT RUNWAYS, WHICH THERE'S REQUIRED INSPECTIONS.
AND THEY HAVE A VERY COMPETITIVE PRODUCT THERE.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE A LOT OF FOLKS WILL BE IS RUNNING, PILOTING THE UNMANNED AIRCRAFT FOR THOSE TYPES OF JOBS.
RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE WHO MOVED OUT HERE JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO FROM ARLINGTON.
SHE'S ACTUALLY LIVING IN WHITE POST AND SHE'S IN KANSAS RIGHT NOW DOING TWO OR THREE JOBS OUT THERE.
SO THERE'LL BE PEOPLE MOVING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO SERVICE THE CONTRACTS THAT THEY HAVE.
SO THERE WON'T BE A BIG THRONG OF PEOPLE OUT THERE AT THE AIRPORT WHERE YOU'LL HAVE PARKING ISSUES OR WATER AND SEWER ISSUES SINCE THERE IS NO WATER AND SEWER AT THE BUILDING,
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MATT AND JACK.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, MRS. SHORAKA HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO.
MADAM CHAIR, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS SECOND CALL? ANYONE LIKED TO SPEAK THIRD AND FINAL CALL PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED.
THEY PROPOSE LISA COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED AT TWO, TWO NINE STOKES AIRPORT ROAD, FRONT ROW TWO SILENT FATMAN UAS.
IS THERE A SECOND WITH THE DATE, A DATE TO BE DETERMINED, THE START DATE OF THE LEASE TO BE DETERMINED? YES.
YOUR MOTION COULD INCLUDE THAT MR. FOX.
I WOULD INCLUDE THAT SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHARROKY.
MR. MABE, MR. FOX, MADAM CHAIR.
[D. Report – COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Expenditures for Warren County – Taryn Logan/Rick Farrall]
AT THIS TIME WE'LL HAVE THE REPORT OF COVID-19 EXPENDITURES.UM, MRS. LOGAN AND LIEUTENANT FARRELL.
AS YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS CONTINUING TO, UM, COLLECT AND SUBMIT THE COUNTY'S COVID-19 RELATED EXPENDITURES FOR FEDERAL REIMBURSEMENT.
WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE COUNTY'S FEMA REPRESENTATIVE ON SO MANY OF THESE EXTENDED HOURS WITH EXPLANATIONS FOR EACH ITEM.
UM, THROUGH THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY, 2021, WE WERE AT, UM, APPROXIMATELY $510,000.
UM, AND THOSE EXPENSES INCLUDE, UM, VP FOR COUNTY DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES, JUST IN FACT, INCENT CLEANING SUPPLIES AND, UM, THE EXPENDITURES.
THEY HAVE SLOWED DOWN, UM, A RECENT MONTH, BUT, UM, WE'RE CONTINUING TO COLLECT THEM AND SUBMIT THEM.
I AM ONLY, I ONLY SUBMITTED, UM, GENERAL AND FIRE AND RESCUE BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONLY ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES FROM THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE'VE HAD.
UM, SINCE MY LAST REPORT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IT'S A PRETTY CUMBERSOME PROCESS.
JUST GOING, GIVING AN EXPLANATION FOR EACH OF THE ITEMS THAT FEMA COMES BACK AND ASK FOR THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FROM BOARD MEMBERS? MADAM CHAIR.
MR. LOGAN, ABOUT HOW MUCH HAVE YOU ACTUALLY SUBMITTED OF THE 509,000? UM, PROBABLY ABOUT PROBABLY 300 AND SOME THOUSAND I MADE.
SO I'M SUBMITTING ALL OF IT TO FEMA AND THEN THEY, AND WITH EACH, WITH EACH DEPARTMENT AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COVER SHEET WITH ALL THE LINE ITEMS, UM, EACH EXPENDITURE, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT THE DOCUMENTATION WITH THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE RECEIPTS PURCHASE ORDERS, ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.
AND THEN SHE COMES BACK WITH, WHAT'S NOT ALLOWED AND THEN WHAT SHE NEEDS ADDITIONAL EXPLANATION FOR.
AND SO THEN I, THEN I HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT AND FIGURE OUT EACH LINE ITEM AND WHAT IT WAS FOR.
UM, BUT I'VE, I'VE SUBMITTED A LOT TO HER.
IT'S JUST, IT'S A QUITE A PROCESS.
I KNOW IT'S A DAUNTING THING FOR YOU TO TRY TO KEEP UP WITH EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD ON THIS STUFF.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMING TOGETHER.
I FEEL LIKE WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS NOW.
WE'VE GOT OUR OWN REPRESENTATIVE WHO IS VERY ACCESSIBLE FOR ME TO ASK QUESTIONS TO, UM, IT'S JUST, THEY DO NEED, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED EXPLANATIONS FOR EVERY EVERYTHING.
SO, UM, THEY NEED PICTURES OF ALL THE PLEXIGLASS THAT WE'VE INSTALLED AND ALL THE FACILITIES.
AND THEN THEY HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT WAS INSTALLED, WHAT OUR OPERATIONAL LEVEL WAS AT THAT TIME.
WERE WE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? UM, I MEAN, THEY'RE VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, SO THEY'RE JUST WORKING THROUGH THAT, BUT, AND IT'S COMING ALONG.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT IN ADDITION TO YOUR PLANNING DIRECTOR POSITION, YOU'RE NOW THE FEMA REPRESENTATIVE FOR ONE COUNTY, SIR.
WONDERFUL HELP WITH I MET WELL, BOTH OF YOU BY, WITHOUT
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REC.I KNOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE FILLING OUT ALL THAT TEDIOUS PAPERWORK, THE TWO OF YOU.
SO THANK YOU BOTH FOR THAT WORK, HALF A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF WORTH OF, UM, PLEXIGLASS AND HAND SANITIZER, LOTS OF DISINFECTANT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD MR. FARRELL DO HAVE ANY REPORT.
MADAM CHAIR, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, TO STAY A QUICK UPDATE ON THE VACCINE PROCESS.
SO THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE VACCINE IS WELL UNDERWAY IN WARREN COUNTY.
SO FAR TO DATE, WE HAVE ABOUT 2000 DOSES THAT HAVE BEEN ADMINISTERED EITHER BY VALLEY HEALTH OR THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH HERE LOCALLY.
TODAY WAS OUR FIRST DAY OF OFFICIALLY DESIGNATING ME 15TH STREET GYM AS A FULL TIME POINT OF DISTRIBUTION FOR THE VACCINE.
LAST WEEK, WE HAD IT ON A DAY BY DAY BASIS.
SO WE HAD TO SET UP TEAR DOWN, SET UP, TEAR DOWN.
NOW THE TARP IS ON THE FLOOR IN THE GYM, AND NOW WE HAVE IT PERMANENT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AVAILABLE FOR VDH OR VALLEY HEALTH TO USES A POD SITE.
YOU'LL SEE TONIGHT THE MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT WITH VDH AS WELL AS VALLEY HEALTH.
AND ESSENTIALLY THEY JUST NEED TO COORDINATE TO GATHER, TO DETERMINE WHO'S USING THE FACILITY SO WE CAN MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THE FACILITY RIGHT NOW.
THE LIMITING FACTOR IS REALLY THE AVAILABILITY, THE VACCINE, BECAUSE NEITHER VALLEY HEALTH OR VDH HAS REALLY ANY RELIABLE VISIBILITY ON WHEN IT'S COMING, HOW MUCH IS COMING, ET CETERA.
SO AT LEAST THE COUNTY WILL NOT BE HOLDING THINGS UP ON OUR END.
AND AS SOON AS THEY HAVE STAFFING AND DOSES, WE CAN ADMINISTER MORE.
UM, WE ARE FOLLOWING THE CDC AND VDH GUIDELINES REGARDING THE DIS DISTRIBUTION, A GROUP ONE A, WE HAVE ALREADY OFFERED TO HEALTHCARE PERSONNEL, OUR LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES, ALL OF THEM IN THE COUNTY HAVE EITHER STARTED THE VACCINATION PROCESS WITH CVS OR WALGREENS, OR THEY ARE SCHEDULED.
UM, HERITAGE HALL IS THE ONLY FACILITY THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED YET, BUT THAT SHOULD BE SCHEDULED SOON.
UH, WOODS COVE WAS JUST SCHEDULED THIS WEEK.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST THE LAST TWO TO GET SCHEDULED, BUT THAT'S GOING VERY WELL.
ONE, BE FRONTLINE ESSENTIAL WORKERS THAT HAS EXPANDED TO NOW AGE 65 AND ABOVE WE'RE DOING ABOUT 1200 THIS WEEK.
WE HAD ABOUT 200 TODAY, FIVE 50 OR SO TOMORROW, FOUR 50 ON THURSDAY.
AND THEN ALL THE OTHER GROUPS ARE, ARE PENDING ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE.
I THINK EMILY HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF RETOOLING.
WE HAVE THE STATIC BANNER, THAT'S AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE, SO ANYBODY CAN GO.
THEY CLICK RIGHT THERE AND IT TAKES YOU ALL TO THE CORRECT PLACES.
UM, VALLEY HEALTH DOES HAVE THE INTERNET REGISTRATION.
YOU CAN GO TO EITHER DIRECTLY TO IT OR GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND IT WILL GET YOU THERE.
UM, AS WE TALK TO FOLKS, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST NEED TO KEEP LIFTING BECAUSE EVERY DAY VALLEY HEALTH WILL OPEN UP IF IT'S A CLOSED POD AND THEN THEY HAVE SOME OPENINGS, THEY'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP.
SO WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP CHECKING VALLEY HEALTH DID OPEN UP THE WINCHESTER MEDICAL CENTER HALL LINE THERE THAT 8,000 NUMBER FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN CATEGORY ONE, A ONE B OR OVER 65 THAT DO NOT HAVE INTERNET ACCESS.
AND IF THEY HAVE APPOINTMENTS AVAILABLE, THE OPERATOR WILL PUT THEM THROUGH TO THE COVID VACCINE SCHEDULER, AND THEY WILL GO AHEAD AND SCHEDULE THEM AN APPOINTMENT.
SO THEY CAN'T GET TO THE INTERNET.
THAT DOES DEPEND THOUGH, THE 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM.
THOSE HOURS ARE GOOD, BUT ONLY IF THEY HAVE A POINT THAT'S AVAILABLE.
IF THEY FILL UP FOR THE DAY AT 10 30 IN THE MORNING, THEN THAT LINE IS CLOSED FOR THE DAY.
UM, THE VACCINE VOLUNTEERS, WE HAVE THE GENERAL INFORMATION REQUIREMENTS ON OUR COUNTY WEBSITE AND VALLEY HEALTH DID CREATE A SIGNUP GENIUS, WHICH WORKS VERY NICE.
YOU CAN GO INTO THIS, YOU CAN SEE EVERY SCHEDULED POD, WHAT THEIR REQUIREMENTS ARE, HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY NEED, AND YOU CAN PHYSICALLY SEE THE NAMES OF FOLKS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP.
SO RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING'S A GO FOR TOMORROW IN THURSDAY, ALL OF OUR HELPER SLOTS HAVE BEEN FILLED.
SO SAME THING WITH FOLKS THAT WANT TO HELP.
THEY JUST NEED TO KEEP CHECKING THE SIGN UP, GENIUS
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VALLEY HEALTH.WE'LL BUILD THE NEXT COUPLE PODS OUT NEXT WEEK, AND THEN FOLKS WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE REQUIREMENTS, RIGHT? SO I THINK THAT'S WORKING OUT VERY WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS? CAN YOU GET ME THAT 800 NUMBER OR WAS IT, YOU SAID 8,000.
IS IT THE FIVE? WHAT IS IT? FIVE, THREE SIX ZERO FIVE THREE SIX, 8,000.
THAT'S THE WINCHESTER MEDICAL CENTER MAIN LINE.
YOU'LL HAVE TO KIND OF LISTEN TO THE SPIELS AND EVENTUALLY IT'S NOT EXACTLY INTUITIVE, BUT IF YOU JUST STAY ON THE LINE FOR THE NEXT AVAILABLE OPERATOR, TELL THEM YOUR STORY AND THEY'LL, AND THEY'LL PUT YOU THROUGH.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. FARRELL FROM THE BOARD? NO, I THINK THE INFORMATION YOU PUT FORWARD IS, IS GOOD.
I THINK WHERE WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL IS, IS THE NEVER CHANGING THING.
AND I THINK FROM AT LEAST MY PERSPECTIVE, MAYBE THE BOARD'S PERSPECTIVE IS IF WE WANT TO, UH, LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT THE WORST THING WITH, UH, NO INFORMATION IS ERRONEOUS INFORMATION.
SO I THINK THE BEST THING TO DO IS PROBABLY CHECK WITH THE WARREN COUNTY WEBSITE BECAUSE EVERYTHING WILL BE ON THERE AS FAR AS THE COVID.
IS THAT CORRECT? AND THAT'S WARREN VA.NET MORGAN COUNTY, VA.NET.
THAT'S WHERE THE MOST UP-TO-DATE INFORMATION WOULD BE FOR PEOPLE TO CHECK THAT'S THE MOST GENERAL INFORMATION, THE MOST UP-TO-DATE INFORMATION ON WHETHER THERE ARE SPOTS AVAILABLE TO GET THE VACCINE WOULD BE THE VALLEY HEALTH WEBSITE, WHICH WE HAVE LINKS TO.
BUT THAT SHOULD BE A HOPE ON THE, UH, WARREN COUNTY WEBSITE TOO, AS FAR AS TO CHECK THAT, TOO.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE BEST PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO CHECK AS OPPOSED TO, UH, EVEN THOUGH OUR BOARD MEMBERS MAY WANT TO.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WANT TO, UH, LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT WITH THESE THINGS CHANGING RAPIDLY, SOMETIMES WE MAY PUT OUT SOME WRONG INFORMATION WHICH COULD CONFUSE PEOPLE.
SO THE BEST THING IN MY OPINION WOULD BE TO GO TO THE WARREN COUNTY VA.NET WEBSITE, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE MOST UP TO DATE.
CAUSE YOU ARE UPDATING THAT MINUTE BY MINUTE, I THINK.
FREQUENTLY THAT'S THE BEST PLACE TO GO.
SO IF ANYBODY NEEDS ANY INFORMATION, THAT'S WHERE THEY GO.
AND I, AND I WILL SAY BOTH TO VALLEY HEALTH AND, UM, UH, VDH IS CREDIT, EVEN THOUGH IT IS KIND OF A SLOW AND CUMBERSOME WHEN THEY ADVERTISE A POD, THAT MEANS THEY HAVE THE VACCINE ON HAND AND THEY'RE GETTING THE HELPERS.
THEY'RE NOT SCHEDULING IT, BANKING ON THOSE CERTAIN NUMBER OF DOSES COMING IN.
SO IF IT'S SCHEDULED, WE HAVE THE DOSES FOR IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. FARRELL, LIEUTENANT FARRELL? CAN YOU, UM, CHOOSE LOCATION? SO YOU CAN JUST CHOOSE FRONT ROYAL AS THE LOCATION FOR THE POD THAT YOU WANT.
IF THERE'S AVAILABILITY, YOU CAN GO TO ANY ONE OF THEM IN THIS AREA.
SO WHEN I SAY WE GAVE OUT 2000 DOSES OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS, I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHO WE VACCINATED.
I MEAN, WE COULD HAVE GIVEN, YOU KNOW, 200 OF THEM FROM PEOPLE FROM PAIGE COUNTY, RIGHT? SO WHEN IT OPENS UP, UM, AND YOU GET ON A STANDBY LIST, THEY MAY CALL YOU UP AND SAY, HEY, I KNOW YOU LIVE IN FRONT ROYAL, BUT I GOT TWO OPENINGS.
AND THEN YOU DRIVE DOWN THERE.
AND SO THEY ARE KEEPING A LIST.
IF YOU SIGN UP, THEY'RE KEEPING A LIST AND RETURNING THE PHONE CALL.
WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO.
I, I'M NOT SURE WHEN, UH, LIEUTENANT FARRELL GETS TO SLEEP, BUT THANK YOU.
[E. Reports – Board Members, Interim County Administrator, Interim County Attorney]
THE, UM, BOARD THERE'S NO MOTION.THERE ARE NO REPORTS FROM THE BOARD MR. CARTER.
THE ONLY THING I'D SAY IS, I GUESS WE GOT WORD YESTERDAY OR WHATEVER THAT, UH, RANDY ROSSER WAS, UH, UM, TAKING A JOB ELSEWHERE.
AND THE OTHER THING, TOO, AS FAR AS HAVING INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE, SHE WAS IN CHARGE OF SOME OF THE BUILDING PROJECTS, SOME OF THE GRANT WRITING.
AND, UM, ALL I CAN SAY IS I WISH HER WELL, THAT'S ALL I HAVE AT THIS TIME.
OKAY, MRS. OATES FOREGO, SINCE WE'RE RUNNING LATE, MR. FOX, MR. MABE, WE'LL GO WITH, WE'RE RUNNING LATE.
MA'AM FERAL WILL BE ASSUMING THE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR GENERAL SERVICES FOR BLEEDING.
THE ROS ARE EFFECTIVE JANUARY 29TH, AND WE WILL CONTINUE INTERVIEWING PEOPLE AND
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PROCEEDING WITH THAT AT THIS TIME.I THINK I HEARD YOU MAY HAVE ONE BAND ATTENTION, BUT YOU SAID THAT LIEUTENANT FARRELL WAS TAKING CARE OF RANDY'S OPERATIONS.
I JUST HAD SOME CONCERN WITH THAT.
NOT THAT LIEUTENANT FARRELL CAN DO A GREAT JOB, BUT HE SEEMS LIKE HE'S, I WON'T SAY OVERWHELMED AND THERE AGAIN, A GOOD SOLDIER WILL ALWAYS TAKE ON MORE RESPONSIBILITY, BUT I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT WITH THE DUTIES THAT, UH, MS. UH, ROSSER HAD DONE TO TAKE IT.
AND THERE, AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT KIND OF SHORT STAFF, BUT THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH.
UM, FIREFIGHTER FOLEY, WHO IS PART TIME IS GOING TO BE MOVING TO FULL-TIME AND HE IS GOING TO BE ASSISTING LIEUTENANT FARREL WITH HIS DUTIES IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UNDER THE CHIEF SUPERVISION THERE.
AND HE WILL ACTUALLY BE TAKING ALL OF THE COST RECOVERY ACTIVITIES AND HELPING WITH THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IN ORDER TO FREE UP MORE OF A LIEUTENANT FERALS TIME.
AND MR. BARRY IS GOING TO BE HELPING FROM PUBLIC WORKS WITH SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES IN THE GENERAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
AND THAT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT, UH, LIEUTENANT FARRELL WAS, UH, THE COST RECOVERY AND THAT WAS A LOT, UH, BEFORE COVID HAPPENED.
AND THEN THERE, AGAIN, IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, FOR THE MOST PART THAT, UH, COVID IS TAKEN UP A LOT OF THE TIME.
AND I GUESS WHAT MAYBE NEXT WEEK IT'LL ALL GO AWAY AND YOU WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT ANYMORE.
CAUSE LIKE I SAID, I KNOW WHAT THE COST RECOVERY IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BUDGET AND THEN TO STAY ON TOP OF THAT.
AND I THINK IT HAS BEEN A VERY GOOD, UH, PROGRAM TO HELP, UH, I WON'T SAY REDUCE COSTS, BUT AT LEAST RECOVER COSTS.
DAVIS, MR. HAM, MRS. JORDAN, I'VE NEVER REPORTED.
[F. Appropriations and Transfers]
IS APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS.ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THE APPROPRIATION AND TRANSFERS? DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS AS PRESENTED.
IS THERE A SECOND? ALL SECOND ROW HOME IS A SHIRAKI MR. CARTER.
MS. OATS, MADAM CHAIR, MR. FOX, MR. MABE APPROVAL
[G. Approval of Accounts]
OF ACCOUNTS.ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THE APPROVAL OF COUNTS COUNTS? IS THERE A SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MR. MABE, MR. FOX, MADAM CHAIR.
MADAM CHAIR WOULD KNOW, UH, AT YOUR TABLE YOU HAVE THREE YEAR SUMMARY OF OUR REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES FOR THE FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR.
DAILY DOES IS GREATLY APPRECIATED BECAUSE IT GIVES THOSE OF US.
WHO'VE ONLY SERVED A YEAR, SOME POINT OF REFERENCE FROM SOME HISTORICAL UNDERSTANDING.
[H. Approval of Minutes – Regular Meeting of January 5, 2021]
APPROVAL OF MINUTES, REGULAR MEETING OF JANUARY 5TH, 2021.ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR ON LET'S DO A ROLL CALL JUST TO KEEP THINGS CONSISTENT.
HI MR. FOX, MR. MEAD, UNFINISHED
[I. Strategic Visioning Action Plans – Brandy Rosser/Rick Farrall/Ed Daley]
BUSINESS, STRATEGIC VISIONING ACTION PLANS.UH, MS. ROSSER, LIEUTENANT FARRELL AND DR.
SO MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS THE, UH, SUMMARY OF THE PLAN OF WHAT YOU WERE WORKED ON WITH STAFF NOVEMBER 13TH AND 14TH.
AND THIS GIVES US SOME OVERALL DIRECTION TO GO BACK TO STAFF TO CREATE MORE EXTENSIVE PLANS, WHICH WE WOULD BRING BACK TO THE BOARD PROBABLY FEBRUARY, MAYBE MARCH, DEPENDING UPON HOW WE ARE WITH THE BUDGET PROCESS.
THIS IS THE OVERALL GUIDELINE THOUGH, AS TO WHAT WE HAVE THAT GOES THEN WITH YOUR PROJECT LISTS,
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HALLOWEEN FITS IN THERE.IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS FROM THE BOARD? YOU HAVE ONE QUESTION IT SAYS HERE, ENCLOSED, OR ONE CHART AND SIX COVER SHEETS, AND MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING, BUT I GUESS THE CHARTS ARE THE SAME AS THE COVER SHEETS.
THE ONLY THING YOU'RE ACTUALLY JOB, SIR, IS THE TWO COVER SHEETS.
THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD BE ASKED TO WORK ON.
THESE ARE ALL GOING TO BE WORKED ON AND REFINED TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH NO FEBRUARY AND MARCH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? DO I HAVE A MOTION? NO.
BEFORE YOU MAKE THAT MOTION, UH, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED.
UH, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THEM ONE BY ONE, OR I'VE GOT SOME CONCERNS AND I'LL PUT THOSE OUT THERE AND I KNOW I'LL BE IN THE MINORITY AND THAT'S FINE, BUT, UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DISCUSS THAT AS FAR AS NUMBER ONE.
I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY TO WAIT FOR SPRING OF 20, 22.
AND NOT THAT I DON'T THINK THAT MR. DALEY IS DOING A GREAT JOB AS THE INTERIM, BUT I'M JUST CONCERNED BY WAITING THAT LONG.
AND THEY'RE AGAINST, BECAUSE ONE OR TWO OF US MAY NOT BE THERE.
BUT I KNOW LIKE WITH THE TOWN, THEY WENT THROUGH AT LEAST TWO PROCESSES AS FAR AS INTERVIEWS.
AND I TALKED TO PEOPLE TOO, HAD BEEN INVOLVED WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
AND THE ONE CONCERN IS THAT THERE ARE MORE POSITIONS AVAILABLE THAN THERE ARE GOOD QUALITY PEOPLE.
AND MY ONLY CONCERN IS BY WAITING TILL THEN.
NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY ANOTHER YEAR BEFORE YOU HIRE SOMEBODY FULL TIME.
AND MY ONLY CONCERN WOULD BE WHY NOT GO AHEAD AND GET SOMEBODY.
I THINK, UH, MS. OATS, YOU'RE A HEAD HUNTER AND YOU GO OUT THERE AND YOU PUT THAT STUFF OUT THERE AND WE FIND OUT AND THEY'RE GETTING MY POSITION WOULD BE TO HIRE FROM AND ALLOW THEM TO GO OUT THERE.
AND AGAIN, I KNOW MR. DALEY, UM, HAS HAD A LOT OF CONTACTS IN THE PAST.
AND I THINK WHEN WE TALKED TO HIM IN JULY, HE FELT WE COULD GET SOMEBODY IN NOVEMBER.
AND AGAIN, WE GOT THE 18 OR 20, UH, APPLICANTS, AND THEY DIDN'T REALLY MEASURE UP TO WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE ME EVERY THREE, SIX, SEVEN MONTHS, THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE OUT THERE LOOKING FOR NEW JOBS AND THEY MAY BE WORTHWHILE TO, UM, THERE WOULD BE A GOOD FIT HERE.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY MY CONCERN AS FAR AS WAITING.
CAUSE WE WAIT MARCH TO PUT IT OUT THERE.
WE MAY BE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER YEAR.
SO THAT'S THE MAIN CONCERN I HAVE WITH THAT.
WHY WAIT WHEN I PUT IT OUT THERE BECAUSE SOME OF THESE SEARCH FIRMS CAN THERE AGAIN, THIS I CAN MAYBE VERIFY, BUT I KNOW THE PAST, WHEN THE TOWN LOOKED AT IT, UH, YOU PUT IT OUT THERE, THEY BRING PEOPLE TO YOU.
UM, IF IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, THE FIRST GO ROUND, THEY'LL DO ANOTHER SEARCH.
IF YOU EVEN, SOMETIMES IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU WRITE THE CONTRACT.
AND I WOULD, UH, UH, SOMEWHAT, UH, LET MISS OUT SINCE SHE HAS THAT EXPERIENCE.
BUT I KNOW IN THE PAST, IF YOU HIRE SOMEBODY IN THIS POSITION AND THEY DON'T WORK OUT AFTER A YEAR, YOU GET ANOTHER FREE LOOK AND I THINK THEY WOULD CAST A WIDER NET.
SO THAT'S THE MAIN CONCERN I HAVE THERE IS.
AND I DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM GOING IN AND START THAT PROCESS.
THE CONCERN I HAVE IS IF YOU WAIT TILL MARCH, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, UH, AND YOU WAIT UNTIL MARCH OF 20, 22, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ONE, MAYBE TWO NEW PEOPLE ON THERE.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUDGET.
AND IT'S JUST GONNA GO ON AND ON.
I THINK TO ME IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO GET SOMEBODY ON THERE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE I THINK THE LONGER YOU WAIT THAT ALSO MAYBE GIVES A COUNTY A DETRIMENTAL IMPACT AS FAR AS FIRE DIDN'T THEY NOT GET SOMEBODY SOONER.
SO THAT'S THE CONCERN I HAVE RIGHT THERE.
MAY I ADDRESS THAT MADAM CHAIR? SO, UM, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS SINCE WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND I HAVE A LOT OF REASONS WHY I THINK THAT HAVING DR.
DALEY REMAIN IN THIS POSITION, FIRST OFF HIS INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE EDA, EMBEZZLEMENT
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IS INVALUABLE IN OUR LEGAL PROSECUTION OF THIS CASE.HE STARTED IN 2018, RIGHT AT THE TIME WHEN THE WHOLE THING BROKE DOWN, I THINK YOU WERE THE CHAIR THEN.
AND, UM, SO ANYWAY, I THINK THAT THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE DR.
DALEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO TRAIN OR RE UH, EDUCATE SOMEBODY AS TO THE DETAILS OF THAT EDA EMBEZZLEMENT.
THAT'S A HUGE AND VERY COMPLICATED AND VERY EXPENSIVE $3.2 MILLION AS OF THE SMALL PROCESS.
SO I THINK THAT HAVING DR DALEY IN THIS ROLE, SO THAT WE DON'T BRING IN SOMEONE WHO HAS NO KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT TRANSPIRED AND HAS TO MAKE THOSE EDUCATED DECISIONS AS TO HOW TO DIRECT THE ATTORNEYS AND HOW TO SPEND THAT MONEY, THAT TAXPAYER DOLLARS EVERY MONTH IS INVALUABLE.
THE SECOND THING IS THAT, UM, I KNOW YOU'VE BROUGHT UP THE NUMBER OF HOURS HE CAN WORK.
AND IT'S BEEN MY OBSERVATION THAT DR.
DALEY DOESN'T WORK FOR MONEY, DR.
DALEY WORKS FOR THE SATISFACTION OF DOING A GREAT JOB.
AND SO HIS HOURS, IF THEY SAY HE CAN ONLY WORK 28, I KNOW DR.
DALY'S GONNA WORK 45 OR 50 OR WHATEVER IT TAKES TO SUPPORT WARREN COUNTY.
AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON MR. CARTER.
AND THEN SECONDLY, UH, BRINGING SOMEBODY INTO THE MIDDLE OF THIS CIVIL LITIGATION WOULD BE FOOLISH.
UH, WE, RIGHT NOW THIS MONTH, OUR TOTAL EXPENDITURE, AS I SAID BEFORE, IS $3.2 MILLION TO PROSECUTE THE CIVIL LITIGATION, WHICH IS MORE THAN 10% OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WAS EMBEZZLED.
UM, SO I BELIEVE THAT KEEPING DR.
DALEY IN THIS ROLE IS ABSOLUTELY THE SMARTEST THING THAT WE CAN DO IN MORTON COUNTY.
AND THEN WHEN ALL OF THIS IS SETTLED, WHICH IS EXPECTED IN 2022, THEN WE CAN LOOK AND BRING SOMEBODY IN WHO WILL HAVE A FRESH START.
WE'LL, WON'T HAVE THIS BIG LITIGATION HANGING OVER THEIR HEADS.
AND, UM, SO THAT'S MY ARGUMENT FOR, UM, FOLLOWING THE STRATEGIC VISIONING.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, THE CIVIL LITIGATION IS NOT GONNA BE FINISHED UNTIL PROBABLY 2023.
MR. DALEY CAME IN ON BOARD, I THINK WITH THE EDA, I BELIEVE NOVEMBER, 2018.
AND ALL THIS STUFF BROKE IN DECEMBER, DECEMBER OF 2019.
SO I DON'T SEE WHERE HE HAS THAT MUCH INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE.
SO THAT'S A FALLACY I SEE WITH YOUR ARGUMENT.
THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE TOO IS, AND I WASN'T GONNA BRING THIS UP, BUT I WILL.
DALEY IN JULY, WHO WE WERE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE THE, UH, THE EXIT OF MR. STANLEY AND THIS WHERE I REALLY HAVE A TRUE PROBLEM, BUT I WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT.
AND THE THING OF IT IS WHEN WE TALKED TO DR.
DALEY, HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU WANT AN HOUR? AND HE SAYS, 65.
WHAT WAS YOUR RESPONSE? I KNOW WHAT YOUR RESPONSE WAS.
YOUR RESPONSE WAS WE SHOULD GIVE HIM $70 AN HOUR.
AND WE SAID 65, HE SAID, 65, YOU SAID 70 A HELL OF A NEGOTIATOR.
I KNOW THAT PART OF OUR POLICIES ARE HIPAA'S PROFANITY, BUT I'M TRYING TO MAKE MY ARGUMENT.
AND I'VE TRIED TO CALL HIM DOWN.
I'LL TRY TO CALL HIM DOWN, BUT I'M JUST POINTING.
NOW YOU MENTIONED THIS, MR. CARTER, AND THIS IS ABOUT MS. DR.
DALEY DOING THE BEST FOR WARREN COUNTY.
WHAT IS THE IMPASSION THAT'S COMING FROM YOU? BECAUSE YOU'RE A HELL OF A NEGOTIATOR.
HE ASKED FOR 65 AND HE SAID, 78, YOU ASKED FOR 65 AND YOU SAID 70.
AND I WASN'T PAYING MUCH ATTENTION.
BUT HE ASKED FOR 65 AND YOU SAID, LET'S GIVE HIM 70, BECAUSE WE THINK THAT WE SHOULD GIVE HIM MORE THAN IF THEY ASK FOR IT.
IF ANYBODY BACKS ME UP, THEY CAN'T, THEY DON'T.
THAT'S FINE TOO, ESPECIALLY MR. CARTER, BUT I DON'T RECALL IT.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE PRICE OF RICE RIGHT NOW.
WE GET BACK ON TOPIC, MR. CARTER, PLEASE.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER TO CON TO VOTE FOR THE STRATEGIC VISIONING PLAN.
AND I WOULD JUST, I SUPPORT KEEPING DR.
DALEY THROUGH TO THE, TO THE END OF THIS EDA EMBEZZLEMENT LITIGATION, BECAUSE HE DOES HAVE A TON OF KNOWLEDGE.
HE'S DONE TONS OF RESEARCH AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE EDA.
HE WAS HANDS ON EVERY DAY, PROVIDING THE INFORMATION TO THE ATTORNEYS.
AND SO I THINK THAT, AND HE'S DOING A HELL OF A JOB FOR WARREN COUNTY.
AND I THINK THAT KEEPING HIM IS ACTUALLY THE SMARTEST THING TO DO UNTIL THIS THING IS RESOLVED.
AND AGAIN, MY, MY FEELING IS THAT I THINK THE SOONER WE GET SOMEBODY ON HERE FOR A PERMANENT BASIS, AGAIN, NO OFFENSE TO DR.
DALEY, BUT I THINK WE'RE BETTER OFF THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE HARDER IT'S GOING TO BE.
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ON THAT ISSUE.THE OTHER THING TOO, ON CRITICAL ISSUE ONE, AND MAYBE I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT IT SAYS QUARTER ONE AND TWO, THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND STAFF WILL PRIORITIZE WITH B O S AUTHORIZATION DEPARTMENT HEADS TO HIRE SUBORDINATE KEY LEADERS.
WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN LIEUTENANT FARRELL, PART OF THAT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN THAT, SIR? YES.
MA'AM THE, UM, WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING HERE IS THAT NEXT LAYER OF DEPTH TO PROVIDE BACKUP IN, IN OUR DEPARTMENTS.
SO FOR INSTANCE, THE ASSISTANT OR DEPUTY DEPARTMENT HEADS, UH, WE DO NOT HAVE AN ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF AND FIRE AND RESCUE, AND YOU WEAR THE MASK OFF, PLEASE.
SO THIS WOULD PROVIDE DEPTH, UH, IN OUR DEPARTMENT'S LEADERSHIP DEPTH, UH, FOR INSTANCE, AN ASSISTANT CHIEF AND FIRE AND RESCUE AND ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR, UH, HELPING HUMAN RESOURCES, UH, ET CETERA, UM, PRIORITIZED, YOU KNOW, SO IF WE COULD ONLY AFFORD TO GET ONE OF THOSE FOUR, THEN WE RACK AND STACK AND BRING IT UP.
I THINK I APPRECIATE THAT WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, I GUESS WHERE MY CONFUSION WAS, I GUESS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUTHORIZES THE POSITION, BUT THE SUPERVISORS SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY SAY OTHER THAN JUST SAYING THAT, UH, THE QUALITIES WE LOOK FOR, RIGHT.
WELL, IT WOULD COME DOWN TO FUNDING.
AND I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST TO THIS CURRENT BOARD, WE ARE NOT AN ADMINISTRATIVE BOARD.
WE SHOULD NOT GET DOWN INTO THE WEEDS AS FAR AS SAYING WHO'S GOING TO BE HIRED BECAUSE WHAT THAT DOES ULTIMATELY IS IT USURPS THE AUTHORITY OF THEIR, IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEAD OR SOMEBODY, WE GO TO DR.
DALEY AND WE EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS AND THEN HE DEALS WITH IT.
IS THAT A CORRECT PROCEDURE? DR.
SO THAT'S THE THING TOO, THAT IF WE GET INTO THOSE WEEDS IS NO COMING OUT.
SO THAT'S THE CONCERN I HAVE WITH THAT, UM, IMPROVE PUBLIC TRUST AND RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TOWN OF FRONT WORLD.
I THINK, UH, MR. FOX, YOU'VE BEEN HERE 16 YEARS.
THE TOWN'S ALWAYS BEEN EASY TO WORK WITH, CORRECT? YEP.
WHEN IT WORKS OUT AND THAT'S FINE.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD WOULD, WOULD, WOULD SUGGEST, UH, WE ALREADY HAVE LIAISON, WHICH, WHICH IS A INFORMATION SHARING BODY, WHICH IS GOOD, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXACTLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MEETING WITH THEM.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT EVERY THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS, SALMON DINNER WITH HIM? I KNOW THAT'S WHAT THEY USED TO ON A SHANNARA COUNTY.
I THINK THEY HAD SIX OR EIGHT COUNTY, UH, TOWNS.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN ACTUAL AGENDA TO MEET WITH THEM? AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND TOO, THERE'S A LOT TO BE SAID FOR PERSONAL RELATIONS, BUT, AND I GUESS WHEN I CAME OVER FROM THE TOWN 2000, 2001, OR PROBABLY TIRED OF HEARING THAT, BUT I SUGGESTED THAT TOO.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER SOMETIME AFTER WE FINISH OUR BUDGET AFTER THEY FINISHED THEIR BUDGET, AFTER THEY GET ACCLIMATED, AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS TO HAVE A TWO DAY SEMINAR PER SE AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT THE COUNTY DOES BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SCHOOLS, WE GOT A DSS, ALL THOSE THINGS.
AND THEN ALSO WE CAN HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY DO, ELECTRIC WATER, SEWER, THOSE THINGS.
SO THAT WOULD BE, IN MY OPINION, I BROUGHT THAT UP 20 YEARS AGO, NOBODY BID ON IT.
BUT TO ME THAT THAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT EACH BODY DOES.
MAYBE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, MAYBE IT DOES.
SO THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION THERE.
UM, THE OTHER THING I HAD WAS ON NUMBER SIX, LET'S SEE, NUMBER THREE, FINANCIAL STABILITY.
I THINK WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT.
I THINK IT'S GOOD TO PROCEED WITH THAT IMPROVE EMPLOYEE MORALE OR TO ENABLE STAFF STABILITY.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD MOTIVE AND THEN ADDRESS THE INADEQUATE TECHNOLOGY.
I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT.
I THINK THE MAIN THING WOULD BE TO HAVE FINANCIALS OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE.
AND I THINK, I THINK YOU HAVE IT IN HERE AND THEN THERE, AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND IT'S A LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DONE TOMORROW.
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TWO, THREE YEARS OUT, BUT I THINK IT'S TO, TO LET THE, UH, FINANCE DIRECTOR TAKE FULL PART OF THAT.AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON DOING.
AND I GUESS THE ONLY THING IS, AND THERE AGAIN, I KNOW THAT MS. OAKS WITH HER IT BACKGROUND, SHE KNOWS AS WELL AS ANYBODY THAT SOMETIMES, UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF, UH, GLITCHES IN THAT.
AND JUST FROM THE EXPERIENCE WITH THE TOWN OR WHAT THE COUNTY, EXCUSE ME.
UM, WE, UM, WE DID THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND I THINK THEY, WHEN WE, WHEN WE, WE, WE, UM, SIGN OFF WITH THE FIRST GROUP, THEY SOLD OUT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
SO THAT THING HAS GONE ON AND ON.
AND AGAIN, IT SOUNDED GREAT BECAUSE IT MADE IT, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO MAKE IT EASY FOR, UH, UH, INDIVIDUAL CHECK YOUR BUILDING PERMITS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO, NO, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO GO FORWARD.
IT'S JUST THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
AND I WOULD THINK THAT EVERYBODY WOULD AGREE.
WE WANT TO GET THAT THING TAKEN CARE OF WITHOUT THE GLITCHES, BECAUSE YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE WITCHES CAUSE THINGS HAPPEN.
THE OTHER THING TOO IS NUMBER SIX, REDUCE LEGAL FEES WHO CAN ARGUE WITH THAT.
UM, BUT I WOULD SAY AS FAR AS HIRING SOMEBODY ELSE AND THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO GO WITH THAT.
UH, WE DID HAVE A FULL-TIME COUNTY ATTORNEY THAT OVERSAW EVERYTHING.
UM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE MR. HAM WHO I THINK HAS DONE A GREAT JOB.
AND WE GOT LITTLE INSIGHT, UH, THAT IN THE SHAPE THEY DIDN'T SHAPE IT.
UH, I CAN'T READ MY WRITING SOMETIMES, BUT NO, THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.
AND I KNOW A LOT OF, UH, COUNTIES IN THE CURRENT OR WHATEVER.
THEY'VE GONE WITH A CON CONTRACTED, UM, UH, ATTORNEY TO PROVIDE LEGAL ADVICE.
BUT THE OTHER OPTION TOO, IS TO GO WITH, UH, A FULL-TIME ATTORNEY AND ALLOW MS. JORDAN TO CONTINUE ON WITH HER THREE DAYS WITH THE DSS AND GO FROM THERE.
BUT I JUST DON'T SEE THE BENEFIT OF HIRING ANOTHER COUNTY ATTORNEY AND STILL HAVING MR. HAM ON BOARD.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING TOO THAT I WOULD HOPE THAT THE BOARD WOULD CONSIDER.
WHAT'S GOING TO BE NOT ONLY THE LEAST EXPENSIVE, BUT ALSO IS GOING TO BE, WHAT'S GOING TO, WHAT'S GOING TO BE BEST FOR THE, FOR THE OVERALL, UH, COUNTY LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
SO HAVING SAID THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS FOR THOSE REASONS MENTIONED, UH, AND IT'S LIKE A WORK IN PROGRESS AND WE CAN STILL CONTINUE TO DISCUSS IT.
WELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT ON ALL THOSE ITEMS. AND I KNOW THE BOARDS WHERE OF THIS, BUT I WANT EVERYBODY ELSE TO BE AWARE OF THIS, THAT WHEN WE HAD THIS ADVANCE, UM, YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE THERE AND BE A PART OF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE AND MAKE YOUR POINTS THERE THAT DAY, SIR, AND YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO STAY THE FIRST DAY AND YOU DID NOT COME SECOND DAY.
UM, WE'VE HAD THIS UP BEFORE AND ALL THE ITEMS YOU BROUGHT UP, WE COULD'VE HAD A WORK SESSION, DISCUSS THEM.
UM, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO BE AWARE THAT WE HAD STAFF AND THE STAFF WAS VERY IMPLEMENTABLE AND BUILDING THESE.
THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAME FROM THE BOARD.
IT WAS A COOPERATIVE WITH OUR STAFF, THAT THESE WERE THINGS THAT JOINING TOGETHER, WE FELT WORD GOALS.
IS ANYONE ELSE ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY DISCUSSION QUESTIONS OR INPUT AT THIS POINT? MAY I FOLLOW UP WITH THAT? BECAUSE IN THE COMPANY, I WANT TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES.
SO I WOULD LIKE MR. MAYOR, MR. FOX, ANY, ANY INPUT OR A MAN, IF YOU CAN, IF YOU COULD WRAP IT UP SO WE CAN MOVE ON WITH THIS, BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE GIVEN YOU THIS PRETTY MUCH, JUST LIKE IT SAYS IN THIS COVER SHEET, IT SAYS SOME CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, SOME STAFF.
SO NOT ALL STAFF, NOT ALL CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS WERE INVOLVED.
AND I REALLY SHOULDN'T SAY THIS.
I DID NOT SHOW UP THAT SECOND DAY BECAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE IS, I SWEAR TO GOD, I DID NOT WANT TO SPEND EIGHT HOURS WITH YOU PEOPLE BOTTOM LINE.
THAT'S ABSOLUTELY SAD, BUT, AND YOU STILL BRING THEM UP POINTS NOW, WHICH STILL SHOULD BE AVAILABLE AND WE'VE HEARD THEM, SIR, DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, STRATEGIC PLAN FOR 2021 TO 2023 AS PRESENTED.
SO I HAVE A SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI.
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MR. MAYOR, MR. FOX, THAT I'M CHAIR.[J. Consent Agenda]
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.ARE THERE ANY ITEMS TO PULL OR DISCUSS MADAM CHAIR? WE WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU PULL ITEM 10, A THAT NEEDS SOME CONTINUED APPROVAL FROM THE OTHER PARTIES THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THIS AGREEMENT.
NAMELY THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL, ANY OTHER ITEMS TO BE PULLED OR DISCUSS BESIDES ITEM NUMBER 10, NUMBER EIGHT, PLEASE.
ARE YOU PULLING IT FOR DISCUSSION? OKAY.
ANY OTHER ITEMS? NUMBER 10, PLEASE.
ITEM 10 IS PULLED, SIR, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS AMENDED? SO MOVE.
IS THERE A SECOND? ALL THOSE MRS. ROCKEY ROLL CALL PLEASE.
[J.8. Authorization to Advertise for Public Hearing – Ordinance to Amend and Re-Ordain Section 56-3 of the Warren County Code re: Address by Nonmembers – Jason Ham]
MR. CARTER, NUMBER EIGHT.WE DISCUSSED THIS A LITTLE BIT IN OUR WORK SESSION AND I KNOW THAT MR. HAM HAS DRAFTED SOME THINGS.
UM, AND AGAIN, I WAS THERE SOMETIME AGO THIS, UM, 50, 63 CAME UP.
UH, CAUSE AT THAT TIME IT SAID EVERY, IF TWO MEMBERS OF OUR BOARD WANTED TO DISCUSS SOMETHING FROM THE PUBLIC, WE COULD DO THAT.
UM, WHICH AT THAT TIME I FELT WAS LESS LENIENT WHEN, WHAT THE BOARD HAD BECAUSE THE BOARD'S RULES AT THAT TIME WERE, UH, WE HAD PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS, ANYBODY SHOW UP AND SPEAK AND DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE TWO MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD TO DO THAT.
AND I APPRECIATE MR. UM, MR. HAMMES MASSAGING THIS, THE ONLY QUESTION, THE ONLY THOUGHTS I HAD, AND AGAIN, LET'S SAY YOU TOLD THEM THE POLK COUNTY PERIOD SHALL BE LIMITED TO 60 MINUTES WITH A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES FOR ANY ONE SPEAKER.
THE ONLY CONCERN THAT I WOULD HAVE, WELL, LET ME SEE.
I WOULD PREFER THAT IN THE FUTURE, EVERY BOARD WOULD HAVE A PUBLIC PRESENTATION COMMENT, WHICH YOU HAVE IN THERE.
CORRECT? UH, I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
THE QUESTION IS THE REDOING THE ORDINANCE.
YOU HAVE IT IN HERE THAT A FUTURE BOARD WILL HAVE A PUBLIC PRESENTATION COMMENT.
AND I WILL ALSO SAY THAT RIGHTFULLY MY SHADOW COUNTY MEETING WAS THE SAME TIME.
AND HE AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THIS BOARD HAS SEEN MY SUGGESTION.
AND SO I HAVE GONE AHEAD AND PUT IN HERE ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE CURRENT MEETING POLICY AND PROCEDURES PROVIDE, BUT I CAN SORT OF MAYBE SENSE WHERE YOU'RE MAYBE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS IS THAT CERTAINLY IT CAN BE ANY OTHER WAY.
I MEAN, YOU COULD LEAVE IT TO FUTURE BOARDS AS TO TIME LIMITS, EXCEPT IT'S UP TO THE BOARD PLEASURABLE.
YOU WERE A MIND READER, BUT NO, THAT'S THE THING I WANT TO SEE PERSONALLY.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REST OF THE BOARD THINKS.
I WANT TO SAY IN THE FUTURE THAT THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR PEOPLE TO COME FORWARD AND MAKE PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS.
HOWEVER, I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT.
AND THIS IS A DIFFICULT THING.
I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT SO CONCISE OR WHATEVER, LIKE YOU WERE DR.
WE WEREN'T, AFTER THE CURRENT THINGS, WE GOT 60 MINUTES, THREE MINUTES.
I WOULD PREFER IF WE CAN CRAFT THAT OR NOT.
I WOULD PREFER THAT THERE WOULD BE A PUBLIC PRESENTATION PORTION OF A FUTURE REGULAR BOARD MEETING, BUT THAT WOULD BE CONTINGENT ON WHAT THE BOARD, THE NEW BOARD FOR JANUARY OF THE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING WOULD SET THE PARAMETERS FOR, FOR INSTANCE, A NEW BOARD MAY SAY, WE WANT 90 MINUTES.
A NEW WARD MAY SAY WE WANT 30 MINUTES.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN CRAFT IT THAT WAY OR NOT TO SAY THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC PRESENTATION PERIOD CONTINGENT ON WHAT THE FUTURE BOARD DEEMS.
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THEY MAY ONLY WANT 20 MINUTES.THERE, THERE, AGAIN, IT JUST, I JUST WANT TO SEE IT WORK OUT FOR A FUTURE BOARD, NOT TO BE SO MUCH LIMITED, BUT TO AT LEAST ALLOW THE PARAMETERS THAT THEY CAN SET 60 MINUTES, THREE MINUTES, WHATEVER.
AND THE OTHER THING TOO WAS LET'S SEE.
AND, AND I THINK THAT COULD BE WHAT WE'VE SEEN TONIGHT, THAT IF A PERSON REQUESTS ADDITIONAL TIME, HE WOULD BE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR, BUT THE CHAIR COULD ALSO BE OVERRULED BY MAJORITY IF THEY WANTED TO ALLOW THAT PERSON TO CONTINUE ON, OR IF THEY WANTED TO ALLOW THAT 60 MINUTES TO, UH, EXTEND TO 90 MINUTES.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CRAFT THAT.
AND I KNOW WHEN WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE THINGS MORE LENIENT.
WE JUST CAN'T MAKE IT MORE CONSTRICTIVE BECAUSE THEN WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO AM I TALKING IN CIRCLES OR AM I GIVING YOU A LITTLE BIT OF DIRECTION THERE? WELL, I WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT FOR A MINUTE.
UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE 60 MINUTES, THREE MINUTES, IF YOU DRAFTED IT AND YOU, THAT IS WHAT YOU SAID BECAUSE DR.
BAILEY TOLD ME THAT YOU'D SAID THAT WITH RESPECT TO, UM, JUST SORT OF LEAVING IT OPEN.
THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT A FUTURE BOARD COULD DECIDE, HUH? PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS 42 SECONDS.
AND SO I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I, I ALWAYS LOOK FOR LOOPHOLES AND THOUGHT, THAT'S WHAT MAYBE MIGHT BE THE BETTER WAY TO DO IT.
I WILL SAY THIS, THAT MY RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION, YOU CAN TAKE IT OR NOT WAS TO REPEAL THIS 56 DASH THREE, NOT TO REWRITE IT AS, AS THIS, AND INSTEAD TO LEAVE IT TO EVERY FUTURE BOARD, WHOEVER IT IS ON JANUARY 1ST, BECAUSE THESE PROCEDURES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ARE DESCRIBED IN THE ADOPTED RULES OF PROCEDURE EVERY YEAR.
I THINK THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
SO MY SUGGESTION WASN'T MY SUGGESTION WAS REPEALING THIS ENTIRE WORLD.
MY UNDERSTANDING OF WORK SESSION IS THAT YOU WANTED SOMETHING ELSE.
AND SO THIS IS WHAT I'VE PROVIDED.
AND SO CERTAINLY YOU CAN SAY, SO THEY WERE REGULAR MEETINGS SHALL BE A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AND THEN LEAVE IT AT THAT.
UM, THAT'S SOMEWHAT MEANINGLESS.
UM, BUT THAT CERTAINLY YOU CAN, MR. HAM, MAY I ASK A QUESTION? SO WE ARE MENDING THE COUNTY CODE, WHICH IS 56 DOT THREE, NOT AMENDING OUR POLICIES, WHICH WE'D ALREADY DONE IN JANUARY.
SO WHAT IS TO PREVENT A FUTURE BOARD TO SAY, THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.
IF THE ORDINANCE IS DELETED NOTHING, THERE'S NOTHING TO PREVENT A FUTURE BOARD FROM.
THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT AT VIRGINIA LAW THAT THIS ANY PUBLIC BODY EXCEPT CAUSAL PINES.
WELL, THIS ORDINANCE ALLOWS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO IF WE DELETE THIS FROM THE COUNTY CODE, THEN A FUTURE BOARD WHO DIDN'T HAVE THE MINDSET THAT WE HAVE COULD SAY, THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT, PERIOD.
WE DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO YOU WITHOUT THIS ORDINANCE IN PLACE.
AND BEEN A FUTURE BOARD COULD DO THAT ANYWAY, BUT THEY'VE GOT TO PROVIDE THE ONCE A WEEK FOR TWO WEEKS NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC BEFORE THEY DID IT.
SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT IF YOU INSTITUTE THIS AS AN ORDINANCE, YOU, YOU REQUIRE A FUTURE BOARD TO PROVIDE PUBLIC NOTICE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE PUBLIC COMMENT HERE.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S THE WAY THAT IT SHOULD BE.
I THINK THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE ADVANCED NOTICE IF A FUTURE BOARD WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT OR INCREASE OR ANY OTHER CHANGES THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY.
SO IN FACT, I SEE THIS ORDINANCE, THIS ORDINANCE AS A PROTECTION OF PUBLIC SPEAKING AT THE BOARD, NOT AS A, UM, AN INTERFERENCE, I DON'T VIEW IT THAT WAY.
I ACTUALLY THINK IT WAS IN PLACE FOR A REASON.
RIGHT? WELL, I THINK AS WRITTEN, IT IS A PROTECTION OF THAT.
UM, UNQUESTIONABLY, UH, ASK REVISE AS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN, IT WAS INCONSISTENT WITH YOUR RULES.
IT SAYS ANY ORDERLY PERSON CAN UPON RECOGNITION OF THE PRESIDING OFFICER REQUEST PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.
WELL, THAT PERSON BY DEFINITION IS NOT GOING TO BE ORDERLY, JUST POPPING UP IN THE, IN THE, OF YOUR RATING.
SO SOMETHING HAD TO BE DONE, REPEAL IT AND LEAVE IT TO THE BOARDS.
OR IF YOU ADOPT THIS, UM, YOU CAN'T STOP YOUR SUCCESSORS FROM DELETING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I WILL TELL YOU PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE NO, I'VE NEVER SEEN A LOCALITY DO THAT.
UM, BUT YOU, IF YOU ADOPT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU CAN, UH, MAKE IT, UH, MAKE FORCE A FUTURE BOARD.
YOU GO THROUGH A PROCEDURE BEFORE THEY CHANGED THAT.
I KIND OF LIKED THE PROCEDURE, FORCING A PROCEDURE.
UH, WE NEED TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS.
WE'VE HEARD THAT TONIGHT LOUD AND CLEAR.
AND, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, THIS DOES NOT STOP THE,
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THE CHAIR OR THE BOARD FROM GIVEN 90 MINUTES OR EXTENDING THINGS MEAN YOU CAN, YOU DID THAT TONIGHT.THIS IS A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT.
SO TONIGHT WE'RE ONLY, UM, WE'RE ONLY VOTING TO ADVERTISE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR A PROPOSED MODIFICATION, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT THIS WOULDN'T GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
AND IF THERE ARE COMMENTS THAT SHOULD BE CHANGED, THIS WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO TALK ABOUT IT TONIGHT, TO SEE WHAT I'M HEARING.
CARTER MAY NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THIS ENTIRELY.
AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER MEMBERS THAT ARE VERY IN FAVOR OF IT.
AND WHO KNOWS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE MEDIA COME? NO, I DISAGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT OF THAT.
AND THERE AGAIN, THE OTHER THING TOO, TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN IS BECAUSE I THINK IN SOME, SOME RESPECTS THAT, UM, MS. COLORS AND MS. OLSON ARE ACTUALLY AGREEING, BUT, UH, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IN THE FUTURE HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK, BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS A FUTURE BOARD, THAT PLACES, THOSE LIMITATIONS, WHETHER IT'S 60 MINUTES, 90 MINUTES OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THIS ONE HERE, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, TWO MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD, SOMEBODY GETS UP AND WANTS TO SPEAK.
THEY CAN SAY, YES, WE'LL LET THEM SPEAK.
AND I THINK THE POLICIES PROCEDURES WE HAVE CURRENTLY ARE A LOT MORE LENIENT THAN WHAT THIS, UH, ORDINANCE SAYS.
SO I'M JUST SAYING, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE FUTURE THAT A, A BOARD CAN SAY, WE WILL HAVE, UM, PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS.
AND THEN IF A FUTURE BOARD DOES WANT TO AMEND THIS, ACCORDING TO MR. HAM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A, UH, PUBLIC HEARING TO SCRAP IT AND GO FORWARD.
BUT I ALSO WANT TO KNOW, OH, ANYTIME A COUNTY ADOPTS ANY ORDINANCE, THERE HAS TO BE PUBLIC NOTICE ONCE A WEEK.
RIGHT? I ALSO WANT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE LENIENT FOR A FUTURE BOARD TO SET THE PARAMETERS.
ON 60 MINUTES, WE MAKE THAT A MINIMUM 90 MINUTES, 20 MINUTES, WHATEVER, UM, THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND THE WHOLE THING, THE BOTTOM LINE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE, THE PUBLIC, AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT THAT THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN A PUBLIC PRESENTATION AT EACH OF THE REGULAR, UH, BOARD MEETINGS.
SO HOW DO WE CRAFT THAT? I DON'T KNOW.
MADAM CHAIR, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS READY FOR ADVERTISING FOR PUBLIC HEARING WITHOUT FURTHER REVIEW.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THE ITEM.
BE POSTPONED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION UNTIL TO BE DETERMINED DATE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND TO A WORK SESSION? ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MR. MATE, MR. FOX, MADAM CHAIR.
ARE WE REMOVING 10 COMPLETELY LIKE ITEMS STRIKING ITEM 10.
[L. Request – Authorization to Submit Application to the 2020 Assistance to Firefighters Grant Program – Chief James Bonzano]
NEXT IS ITEM L REQUEST FOR AUTHORIZATION TO SUBMIT APPLICATION TO THE 2020 ASSISTANT TO FIREFIGHTERS GRANT PROGRAM, CHIEF ANZANO GOOD EVENING.THEY'RE MEMBERS OF THE POOR SUPERVISORS.
I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY.
I'M HERE BEFORE YOU TO ASK FOR ASSISTANCE FOR AUTHORIZATION TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION, UH, TO THE 20, 20 ASSISTANCE TO THE FIREFIGHTER'S GRANT PROGRAM.
UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, UM, AS IT APPLIES TO THIS, THIS WAS RELEASED OR OPENED IN JANUARY 4TH OF 2021.
UM, THE, THE ACTUAL ESTIMATED GRANT IS A TOTAL $319 MILLION OF WHICH WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR ABOUT 21, UM, OF, OF THAT AMOUNT PER 70 SETS OF FULL PROTECTIVE GEAR.
UH, WARREN COUNTY FIRE RESCUE HAS IDENTIFIED THE NEED FOR ALL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY WIDE RESPONSE SYSTEM TO INCLUDE BOTH CAREER AND VOLUNTEER PERSONNEL.
UH, THE ESTIMATED 40 TO 50% OF OUR AVAILABLE PP IN OUR VOLUNTEER CONTINGENCY HAS COME BACK TO US TO BE, UM, THAT'S ALL WE'VE GOT AS FAR AS THE RETURN THUS FAR.
UM, BUT WE HAVE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF IT THAT IT'S OUT OF DATE OR NOT IN COMPLIANCE,
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IF YOU WILL.UH, THE APPLICATION WILL UTILIZE THE REGIONAL APPROACH AS USED FOR RECENT COUNTY-WIDE THE SEB S CBA GRANT AS AN EXAMPLE, WHICH WAS AWARDED IN 2020, UM, WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR A 10% MATCHING FUND AND AN ESTIMATE OF ABOUT 20 GRAND OUT-OF-POCKET.
AND IT WOULD COME FROM WARREN COUNTY FIRE RESCUE, FIRE PROGRAMS OR SPECIAL PROJECT FUNDS.
UM, THE, THE BIG THING TO TAKEAWAY HERE, THERE'LL BE NO COST TO THE VOLUNTEER ENTITY, UM, OR RESPONSE SYSTEM.
UM, AND NO NEW MONEY IS FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS EITHER.
UM, THE BIG THING ABOUT THIS IS SIMPLY PUT, AND YOU WERE THERE MADAM CHAIR FOR THE, WE MET WITH THE DISTRICT CHIEFS FOR THE VOLUNTEER ENTITY THE OTHER EVENING.
UM, WE HAVE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF OUR FULL PROTECTIVE GEAR THAT'S OUT OF DATE, AND WE NEED TO BRING IT IN WITH SOAR ADVOCATION, NOT ONLY TO PURCHASE THE GEAR, BUT ALSO TO HAVE A CENTRALIZED LOCATION THEY'RE INTO ROTATE THE STOCK.
EVERYBODY BE IN THE SAME STANDARDIZATION ON THE SAME CYCLE, IF YOU WILL.
SO IT'S ALL PREDICATED FROM AN FDA STANDARDS AND A VERY SOLID PROPOSAL.
AND I WANT TO COMPLIMENT JERRY, JERRY KAT MEDICOS, THE WANT TO PUT THIS WHOLE PRESENTATION TOGETHER AND I'M KIND OF RIDING HERD OFF IT.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COATTAILS, GAVIN.
SO ANY QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? YES.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, I UNDERSTAND THE DOLLARS THAT YOU'RE GOING AFTER, UM, FROM HOW MANY UNITS ARE REALLY OUT, OUT OF A COMPONENT.
SO GOOD QUESTION, MR. MAY, RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOTTEN 40 TO 50% RETURN FROM THE VOLUNTEER ENTITY.
SO I COULDN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT NUMBER.
I WILL TELL YOU WHAT I'VE SEEN THUS FAR.
THERE IS A LARGE PERCENTAGE THAT IS OUT OF DATE.
SO TO GIVE YOU AN EXACT NUMBER, I COULDN'T GIVE YOU A, GIVE ME A LITTLE MORE TIME.
WE JUST HAD THIS MEETING ON THE 13TH.
SO OUR TURNAROUND HAS BEEN REALLY TIGHT.
SO GETTING THAT FEEDBACK IS IMPORTANT.
I WILL SAY THAT AN OBSERVATION OF A COUPLE OF COMPANIES I'VE GOT FULL PROTECTIVE GEAR DATING BACK TO 1989, 1990, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.
SO IT WAS SO FAR OUT OF COMPLIANCE.
IT'S NOT EVEN CHECKING THE BOX.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS NO MONEY THAT THE BOARD WILL NEED TO APPROPRIATE THAT THIS MONIES EXIST CURRENTLY IN THE FIRE AND THE BUDGET.
CORRECT, MAN, THAT'S GOING TO COME FROM SPECIAL PROJECTS AND OR FIRE PROGRAMS, MORE MONEY.
AND WERE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUTHORIZED THE WARREN COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES TO SUBMIT ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY OF WARREN AND IT'S VOLUNTEER FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES APPLICATION.
AND FEMA'S 2020 ASSISTANCE WHO FIREFIGHTERS GRANT PROGRAM SEEKING FUNDING FOR 70 SETS OF PERSONAL PROTECTIVE.
SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI DISCUSSION.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT TOO.
I MEAN, ONCE YOU GET THAT, THAT'S IT.
UNLIKE WHAT WE JUST GOT FOR, I DON'T KNOW, SIX, EIGHT, 10, 12 FIREFIGHTERS, WHICH IS A GRANT, WHICH FIRST YEAR THEY PAY SECOND YEAR.
AND AFTER THAT, BUT THIS YEAR IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ONE AND DONE.
WE PAY OFF, YOU PAY OFF, SOMEBODY PAYS OFF AND THAT'S IT.
UH, NO, I WOULD DISAGREE, SIR.
I MEAN, I THINK AS WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE, WE KNEW LOOK AT PROGRAM AND MONEY AND SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT.
SO I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T SAY THAT TO YOU.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A FUN GRANT.
I, AS IT PERTAINS TO THIS SCHOOL, I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OTHER PROGRAMS. YES, SIR.
NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FIREFIGHTERS.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, IT'S ALL ON THE COUNTY WITH THIS STUFF HERE, WITH THE PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT, WE GET THAT IT'S PRETTY MUCH DONE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO PUT OUT ON THIS PARTICULAR GRANT ON THIS PARTICULAR GRANT.
THERE'S ALWAYS FUTURE, I GUESS.
SOMETIMES I'M HARD TO FOLLOW, SO WE'RE GOOD.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR TOO.
CAUSE I THINK IT'S A GREAT DEAL AND I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF JERRY AND YOU COMING ON BOARD NEW, I GUESS, TO ALLOW HIM CAUSE HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB TOO.
SO I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS.
MADAM CARA, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL TIMELINE ON THE, TELL ME ON HERE.
SO THE ANTICIPATED WORK DATE FOR THE GRANT IS IN MAY.
UM, WE HAVE A TWO YEAR WHAT THEY CALL A PERIOD OF PERFORMANCE.
SO TALK TO STAFF ANTICIPATED AWARD MAY OF 2021.
WE HAVE, IF WE'RE AWARDED, WE HAVE A TWO YEAR PERIOD OF PERFORMANCE TALKING TO THE CHIEF, UH, THE VOLUNTEER SYSTEM.
WE WOULD LOOK AT ACTUALLY ORDERING THIS GEAR IN TWO ALLOTMENTS TO STAGGER THAT TIMEFRAME, LOOKING AT FUTURE REPLACEMENT COST.
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BE ABLE TO BE AWARDED THE GRANT AND HAVE ALL 70 SETS WITHIN THAT TWO YEAR TIME.NOW, KNOWING THAT EVERY TIME THAT YOU DO SOMETHING, PRICE ALWAYS GOES UP.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MEET THE MEET THE COST DIFFERENTIAL? SO RIGHT NOW, TALKING TO THE VENDORS THAT WE HISTORICALLY USE, UM, THIS IS ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THE SCBA GRANT THAT WE PURCHASED FOR.
WHEN FEMA COMES OUT IN AWARDS, THE GRANT, THEY'RE GOING TO ALLOT US X NUMBER OF DOLLARS PER SET, OF PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT.
WE FEEL RIGHT NOW THAT OUR CURRENT COUNTY SPEC AND WORKING WITH ALL VENDORS, WE WILL BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THAT ALL 70 SETS EXCLUSIVELY WITH THE 90% FUNDING AND 10% MATCH.
I WAS GOING TO SAY A SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR NUDGE.
ONE QUESTION FOR THE FIRE CHIEF, IF POSSIBLE.
IT MENTIONS THE SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND.
WHAT KIND OF EVER NEW? DO YOU HAVE ANY, I'M SORRY AGAIN, SIR.
EIGHT MITCH'S SPECIAL PROJECTS, FLUENT AT THIS MONEY WITH CONFLICT.
HOW MUCH SURPLUS DO YOU HAVE IN IT FUNDED? I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXACT NUMBER ONE.
AND I'M, AND I'M BEING HONEST WITH YOU, MR. FOX.
I'M STILL IN THE PROCESS GETTING IN THE WEEDS TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THAT NUMBER IS ON.
CAN YOU GIVE ME ANY FIDELITY WITH THAT? I WOULDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE GIVING YOU A NUMBER WITHOUT A CALCULATOR AND THE IN FRONT OF THEM.
JUST CURIOUS ENOUGH TO WHERE GOING TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO MEET THE MATCHING FUNDS.
BUT THAT SAID YOUR POINT'S WELL TAKEN.
THANK YOU, MS. FOX, MR. MICK LIBERTY IS ON THAT FACT THERE'S $14 MILLION IN THE SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND AND HIS PERSONAL PROJECT IS SORTING THAT OUT TO BE ABLE, WHEN WE GET INTO THE BUDGET, PRESENTED THE BOARD WITH AN ACTUAL DOCUMENTATION OF WHAT EVERYBODY'S MONEY IN THERE IS AND WHAT IT IS FOR, HE HAS NOTIFIED THE DEPARTMENTS OF THAT.
SO YOU WILL SEE REQUESTS COMING IN TO SPEND THAT MONEY BEFORE IT GOES BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND RESERVES.
[M. Request – Memorandum of Understanding between the Lord Fairfax Health District and the County of Warren Regarding the Use of County Facilities for the Purpose of Dispensing Medical Countermeasures to Residents, including Mass Vaccination Efforts – Caitlin Jordan]
AM REQUESTS, MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE LORD FAIRFAX HEALTH DISTRICT AND THE COUNTY OF WARREN REGARDING THE USE OF COUNTY FACILITIES FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISPENSING MEDICAL COUNTERMEASURES, TO RESIDENTS, INCLUDING MASS VACCINATION EFFORTS.MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS ON JANUARY 5TH, UH, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DID APPROVE A PROPOSED AGREEMENT BETWEEN FAIRFAX HEALTH DISTRICT AND THE COUNTY REGARDING THE HEALTH DISTRICT USE OF THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICE GYMNASIUM FOR THE PURPOSE OF ADMINISTERING THE COVID VACCINE.
BUT AFTER THAT MEETING MY OFFICE RECEIVED A NOTICE FROM LEANNE SWAIN.
WHO'S THE DISTRICT ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE HEALTH DISTRICT.
UM, SHE ACTUALLY PROVIDED A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FROM THE HEALTH DISTRICT AND ASK THAT THE COUNTY SIGN IT INSTEAD, UH, WITH THAT THE PROPOSED MOU DOES SET FORTH THE HEALTH DISTRICTS AND THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY AND PROVIDES THAT THE HEALTH DISTRICT IS COVERED BY LIABILITY INSURANCE.
A COPY OF THE MOU, AS WELL AS THE CERTIFICATE OF LIABILITY COVERAGE WAS PROVIDED TO YOU FOR YOUR REVIEW.
THE TERM OF THIS MOU IS FOR THREE YEARS, BUT THE MOU MAY BE TERMINATED AT ANY TIME BY EITHER PARTY BY, BY GIVING THE OTHER PARTY A 30 DAY ADVANCED NOTICE.
SO, UM, THIS IS BEFORE YOU AGAIN, ASKING FOR THE BOARD TO APPROVE THIS INSTEAD OF THE ONE, AND WE WILL USE THIS ONE INSTEAD OF THE ONE THAT YOU APPROVED LAST MEETING.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MAY HAVE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. JORDAN? I MOVED THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR AUTHORIZED COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE BORDER BETWEEN THE LORD FAIRFAX HEALTH DISTRICT COUNTY OF WARREN FOR THE PURPOSE OF A COOPERATION COORDINATION AND DISPENSING MEDICAL COUNTERMEASURES TO RESIDENTS, INCLUDING MASS VACCINATION ISSUES, SAGGING ROLL CALL MRS. SHIRAKI.
REMEMBER THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE WAR MEMORIAL HOSPITAL AND THE COUNTY OF WARREN REGARDING THE USE OF COUNTY FACILITIES
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FOR THE PURPOSE OF ADMINISTERING VACCINATIONS, MRS. JORDAN? YES.PHARELL HAS BEEN WORKING WITH NOT ONLY THE HEALTH DISTRICT, BUT ALSO WARM MEMORIAL HOSPITAL AND ORGANIZING AND COORDINATING PLANS.
PREVIOUS AGENCIES TO PROVIDE THE COVID BACK VACCINE TO RESIDENTS ON JANUARY 14TH, MR. FARRELL RECEIVED A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FROM BENJAMIN
IT DOES REQUIRE THE HOSPITAL TO COORDINATE WITH WORKFARE FACTS, HEALTH DISTRICT REGARDING THE WHICH AGENCY IS USING WHICH FACILITIES.
UM, IT ALSO REQUIRES THAT THE COUNTY CONTINUED TO PROVIDE OR COVER THE UTILITY CALLS FOR THE COUNTY FACILITIES THAT ARE BEING USED, BUT THE HOSPITAL IS REQUIRED TO PROCURE A MAINTAIN, UM, MEDICAL MALPRACTICE IN GENERAL LIABILITY INSURANCE.
DURING THE, THE TERM OF THE MOU.
THIS MOU IS ONLY, UM, IT'S ONLY FOR A TERM OF FIVE MONTHS.
IT WILL BE EXTENDED ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS OF LESS ONE OF THE PARTIES NOTIFIES THE OTHER THAT WE DO NOT WISH SERENE.
UM, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED WORD FROM THEM WAR MEMORIAL HOSPITAL THAT THEY AGREE TO THIS AGREEMENT.
HOWEVER, I DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM MR. DELACEY THIS EVENING SAYING THAT PRELIMINARY, UM, PRELIMINARY HIS PRELIMINARY REVIEW OF IT.
HE IS SENDING IT TO HIS LEGAL TEAM TO LOOK OUT.
WE WILL BE KNOWING HOPEFULLY WE WILL KNOW SHORTLY WHETHER OR NOT THEY APPROVE OR NOT, BUT CONSIDERING THE, THE NEED TO GET THIS IN PLACE SOONER, RATHER THAN LATER, WE'RE ASKING THE BOARD TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS ONE.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPENING FOR ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? CAITLIN, IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES MADE TO THAT, WILL THE BOARD HAVE TO RE VOTE AT AN LATER MEETING ON THIS AGREEMENT? OKAY.
UH, YES, IF THERE'S ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, WE WOULD BRING IT BACK BEFORE THE BOARD, JUST, JUST AS WE DID WITH THE WORD FAIRFAX ONE.
WELL, IF YOU WANT IT TO AVOID THAT, YOU COULD HAVE THIS MOTION AND THEN ADD TO IT WITH SUCH CHANGES.
THIS MAY BE AUTHORIZED BY THE CHAIRMAN OR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR EITHER MAY ACT OR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUTHORIZED COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE LORD FAIRFAX HEALTH DISTRICT AND COUNTY, A WARRANT FOR THE PURPOSE OF COOPERATION AND COORDINATION AND DISPENSING MEDICAL COUNTERMEASURES TO RESIDENTS, INCLUDING MASS VACCINATION EFFORTS WITH THE, FOR VSO, IF THERE'S ANY SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES, IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD.
OUR CHAIRMAN HAS THAT, DID YOU SAY, I THINK YOU SAID, LORD FAIRFAX, WE'RE ON THE WAR MEMORIAL HOSPITAL IN ONE, IT'S AN EXTRA DOCUMENT THAT WAS THAT YEAR AND ONE OF THE BEST.
SO IS YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE AS MR. HAM? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ROLL CALL, MRS. SHAHRAKI SORRY.
HI, MR. FOX, MR. MABE, MADAM CHAIR.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. FARRELL.
UM, MR. FARRELL, UM, CVS IS GOING TO BE DOING SOME VACCINATIONS, THE VACCINE AS WELL.
ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO DO A, AN AGREEMENT JUST LIKE THIS? UH, NO, SIR.
RIGHT NOW, UH, THE INTENT OF THE CVS PROGRAM IS TO FOCUS ON OUR LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES.
ONCE THEY'RE FINISHED WITH THE LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES, THEN THEY RIGHT NOW ARE PLANNING ON GOING REALLY BACK TO THEIR PHARMACIES AND THEN THE ISSUING IT.
THEY'RE JUST LIKE YOU CAN GO GET A FLU SHOT.
SO THERE'S NO PLAN USE OF CVS OR WALGREENS TO USE ANY OF OUR COUNTY FACILITIES TO ADMINISTER THE VACCINE.
[N. Request – 2021 Board of Supervisors Board/Committee Assignments – Ed Daley]
IN REQUESTS, 2021 FOR TO SUPERVISORS, BOARD AND COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS.MADAM CHAIR, YOU HAVE THE LIST OF BOARD ASSIGNMENTS FROM 2020 IN YOUR PARENTHESES THERE ON THE LIST.
UH, WHAT YOU HAVE 19 THERE, INCLUDING THE JOINT TOURISM.
AND WE'LL ASK THAT YOU ADD THE BROADBAND AND THE, UH, DRUG COMMITTEE TO
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YOUR LIST.AND THESE ARE BOARD APPOINTMENTS BY THE BOARD.
AND I HAVE TALKED WITH, UM, MR. MAY AND HE IS NOW GOING TO TAKE MY POSITION ON NUMBER SEVEN ON THE NORTHERN SHENANDOAH VALLEY, REGIONAL COMMISSION WITH MRS. OATES AND MRS. LOGAN.
HE'S ALSO GOING TO TAKE NUMBER 10, THE REGIONAL, UH, RSW REGIONAL DALE JAIL COMMITTEE POSITION AS ALTERNATE IN PLACE OF ME ON THE WARREN COUNTY WELLS AND SYSTEM NUMBER 16.
UM, HE WILL BE, UM, ALTERNATE AS WELL.
AND AS DISCUSSED EARLIER, UM, NUMBER 13 AND 14 WARREN COUNTY PERSONNEL COMMITTEE, WHERE IT SAYS ALL BOARD MEMBERS THAT WILL BE CHANGED TO TWO CHAIR BEING ONE, AND THEN BOARD MEMBER ROTATING ON NUMBER 14, WARREN COUNTY SANITATION AUTHORITY, WHERE IT SAYS ALL BOARD MEMBERS THAT WILL ALSO CHANGE TO TWO WITH CHAIR AND A ROTATING BOARD MEMBER, ONE, THE FORT ROYAL WARREN COUNTY JOINT TERROR, UH, TOURISM, UM, WITH OUR AGREEMENT, WE NOW HAVE ONE MEMBER AND MRS. OATES HAD REQUESTED REMAIN ON THAT WITH, UM, MR. MAVIS, THE ALTERNATE DRUG PREVENTION IS MRS. OATES.
SHE WOULD LIKE TO REMAIN ON THAT.
WE CHOSE THAT DIRECT PREVENTION.
THAT IS MYSELF AND DOODLE A LACK OF A REPRESENTATIVE FROM MR. MADE SHENANDOAH AREA.
HE'S SITTING ON THAT UNTIL SOMEONE COMES FORWARD AND WE HAVE RAILROAD.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A, UM, BUT MRS. OATES HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE RAILROAD.
SO IF WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM ANYONE ELSE ON ANY REQUEST TO CHANGE THEIR POSITIONS.
I HAD ASKED THEM TO SEND THAT TO YOU, BUT THOSE WERE THE CHANGES THAT PEOPLE HAD DISCUSSED WITH ME.
UM, THE FRONT ROW GOLF CLUB ADVISORY COMMITTEE, NUMBER SIX.
UM, IS THAT NECESSARY AT ALL? AND IF IT IS WHY I THINK THE THOUGHT IS THAT WE'VE GOT THE OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED.
AND IF WE W W I THINK WE USED TO MEET ON A MONTHLY BASIS, BUT I THINK IT WAS A MATTER OF MEETING MAYBE EVERY SIX MONTHS TO SEE IF THEY HAVE THINGS WERE PROGRESSING, JUST TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
DO YOU WANT TO DO AWAY WITH IT? THAT'S FINE.
BUT AT LEAST THAT WAY HE WOULD BE THAT LIAISON BETWEEN WHOEVER'S RUNNING IT AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
SO IS THERE A FULL COMMITTEE OR IS IT WELL, THE COMMITTEE IS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVE AND THERE'S LIKE FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT MEMBERS.
I THINK DAN LENSE, UH, I THINK HENRY LINGER, SOME BILL C LOCK USED TO BE ON IT, THE WHOLE THING.
AND THAT CAN BE CHANGED TOO, BUT THAT I THINK IS A REASON TO KEEP THAT ON, AT LEAST TO DO THIS TRANSITION PERIOD.
IT SHOULD NOT BE THAT MUCH TO DO, BUT HE JUST LIKED TO KEEP TABS ON HOW THINGS ARE PROGRESSING.
I WASN'T AWARE THAT IT WAS CONTINUING, UM, ANY OTHER CHANGES INPUTS THAT ANYONE HAS I DO.
UM, ON NUMBER 13, THE PERSONNEL COMMITTEE, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN ALL BOARD MEMBERS.
HAVE YOU BEEN HERE WHEN WE HAD CLOSED SESSION, BUT MR. PAM INFORMED US THAT THAT WAS FOR ILLEGAL MR. HAM, YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT SINCE HE WAS NOT THERE TO, TO HEAR WHAT YOU SAID.
THE FOYA ADVISORY COUNCIL HAS SAID THAT THERE'S CONFUSION WHEN YOU HAVE EVERY SINGLE, RIGHT.
SO EVEN JUST THREE, UM, MEMBERS OF A COUNCIL OR, OR SUPERVISOR FOUR ON A COMMITTEE, BECAUSE IT IS UNCLEAR AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE BOARD IS MEETING AS THE PERSONNEL COMMITTEE OR THEY'RE MEETING AS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
SO FOR ADVISORY COUNCIL OPINION HAS SAID THAT, UH, IN A FACT SITUATION IN WHICH IT WAS A SEVEN MEMBER TOWN COUNCIL AND ALL SEVEN MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL ATTENDED AND PARTICIPATED IN COMMITTEE MEETINGS, BUT ONLY THREE OF THOSE MEMBERS WERE ACTUALLY ON THAT COMMITTEE THAT IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE, IT WAS, WAS IN PROPER TO CONDUCT BUSINESS IN THAT WAY.
THIS AS PROPOSED TAKES IT THAT STEP FURTHER BY ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY PUTTING ALL BOARD MEMBERS ON THOSE COMMITTEES.
AND I'VE, I'VE GOT A COPY OF THAT
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WITH ME.DO YOU WANT TO SEE IT, BUT IT'S NO, THAT'S FINE.
IT JUST, LIKE I SAID, GOING IN THE PAST, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS PART OF OUR CODE FOR ONE THING.
AND AGAIN, THE ONLY TIME THAT I RECALL, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, THE PERSONNEL COMMITTEE TO ME, AND THERE AGAIN, THAT THAT COULD BE THE SAME THING.
AS FAR AS THE FULL BOARD IS WHEN WE CAME ACROSS, WE HIRE SOMEBODY NEW, OR WE WANT TO GIVE THEM A PAY INCREASE, AND IT EXCEEDED WHAT THE MATRIX WAS.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE MET TO DISCUSS THAT AGAIN, THAT COULD BE THE FULL BOARD, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY TIME I REMEMBER ACTUALLY MEETING AS FAR AS THE PERSONNEL COMMITTEE.
AND THAT WAS JUST TO INCREASE, SOMEBODY'S PAY OR FOR THE ADMINISTRATOR TO COME AND SAY, LOOK, WE GOT A PICK A SLOT.
WE HAD A, THE, THE, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND WE WANT TO GIVE HIM A BUMP THAT EXCEEDS THAT.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE WHERE THAT CAME INTO PLAY FOR THE MOST PART.
NOW THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME SITUATIONS WHERE, UM, UM, POSSIBLY DISCIPLINARY.
I DON'T REMEMBER ANY OF THOSE BECAUSE THERE, AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO THE ADMINISTRATOR TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE THINGS.
AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I'M BRINGING THAT UP.
NOW, MAYBE YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK TO SEE IF IT'S IN THE COUNTY CODE THAT IT SAYS THAT THE PERSONNEL COMMITTEE IS MADE UP OF ALL BOARD MEMBERS.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT DOES, OR IT DOESN'T IN THE COUNTY CODE, BUT STATE LAW TRUMPS THE COUNTY GOAT AND FOYA TRUMPS THAT.
BUT THE THING OF IT IS IF IT'S IN THE COUNTY CODE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE THAT.
YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IT, THE DR.
DAILY IS TO MICHAEL WITH THAT, AND THAT'S FINE.
AND THE OTHER THING TOO IS ON NUMBER 14, THE WARREN COUNTY SANITATION AUTHORITY.
AND THERE AGAIN, MAYBE IT'S YOUR SAME ARGUMENTS.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHEN WE HAVE DIFFERENT SANITATION AUTHORITIES, THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS THE GOVERNING BODY OF THAT, WHETHER IT'S LIKE FARM WORLD, WHETHER IT'S, UH, SHANDRA SHORES, WHETHER IT'S HIGH KNOB, THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY IN CHARGE ULTIMATELY OF THAT, UH, SANITARY DISTRICT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT WELL, WOULDN'T WE BE DISCUSSING THAT IN A GENERAL MEETING.
SO AS FAR AS MEETING FOYA, ANY OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAVE ON SANITARY DISTRICT MEETINGS, THE TWO BOARD MEMBERS, THE WAY IT'S SET UP TO MEET FOR YAH, IT COULD STILL BE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD AND THE SANITARY DISTRICTS COME TO US AS A, A MEETING SUCH AS TONIGHT.
SO WE CAN STILL ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES WITHOUT BREAKING FOR YOU.
AND WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING AT THAT POINT IS THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE MEETING, UM, YOU KNOW, SORT OF INTERNAL CAPACITY AND THE ISSUE IS NOTES.
SO GOING BACK TO THE, UM, TO THE EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, ORANGE COUNTY HAS EVERY BODY COMING, EVERY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS GOING TO A PERSONNEL COMMITTEE MEETING THE FOYER ADVISORY COUNCIL WOULD SAY, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE THAT THAT'S, YOU DIDN'T NOTICE IT AS A SUPERVISOR.
SO WHEN YOU'RE ACTING AS THE BOARD FOR SOME OF THESE SANITARY DISTRICTS AS WELL FROM MAYBE THIS NOTICE THE MEETING AS, AS BOTH, THAT THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO HANDLE THAT.
I KNOW WHAT YOU, I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID AS FAR AS THE PERSONNEL, BUT WHAT WERE YOU SAYING AS FAR AS THE SANITARY? BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING WAS LIKE THE SANITARY DISTRICT BOARD IS ACTUALLY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
UM, BUT, AND SO OF COURSE, WHEN WE, WHEN YOU ALL WELL ACT ON BEHALF OF THE SAN DIEGO DISTRICT AT REGULAR NOTICE MEETINGS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, SO THAT KEEPS YOU COMPLIANT.
BUT IF YOU'RE, AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF FOR SOME REASON YOU NEED TO HAVE A MEETING OF THE SANITATION AUTHORITY, YOU WOULD BASICALLY DO IT AS A SUPERVISOR.
I GUESS I JUST GOT A NOTE FROM DR.
DALEY THAT THE PERSONNEL COMMITTEE IS NOT IN THE COUNTY CODE.
UM, SO I THINK THAT THAT IS DEALT WITH, AND I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THE MINUTES OR BYLAWS OF THE SANITATION AUTHORITY, BUT I JUST HAVE THAT FOG COY ADVISORY OPINION, THAT NOTES THAT TO OUR SUPERVISORS IS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH RESPECT TO THOSE BOARD.
MAYBE IT'S A DIFFERENCE TOO, BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN WE APPOINT THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR WHATEVER, WE AS A BOARD HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT.
BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE TO ME, WE WOULD BE BETTER OFF TO ACT AS A BOARD SINCE WE ARE ULTIMATELY THE SANITARY BOARD BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST WE PUT THIS OFF AND LET MR. HAM DO FURTHER RESEARCH AND LOOK AT IT.
CAUSE I, I JUST HAVE SOME CONCERNS IF IT'S JUST TWO MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD OPERATING,
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UM, NOT THAT THEY WOULD, BUT OUTSIDE THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT'S NEEDED TO DO.MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT, BUT YOU ADOPTED EVERYTHING EXCEPT 13 AND 14, BECAUSE THIS HAS TO DO WITH YOUR COMMITTEES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, IN EFFECT RIGHT NOW.
SO, AND YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I, I TOLD THIS BOARD ABOUT THIS, UM, TODAY, YOU KNOW, GOT THE AGENDA YOU Y'ALL CLOSED.
THIS IS MY CHANCE TO TALK TO YOU, RIGHT? SO I WOULDN'T PUT THEM ALL OFF BECAUSE NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT IN A 13, 14 MAY ACTUALLY BE A MOOT POINT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN QUOTE UNQUOTE BOARD COMMITTEES AND ACTUAL, UH, LEGALISTIC THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO, BECAUSE AGAIN, THE MAIN ONE I HAVE SOME CONCERN WITH IS THE SANITATION AUTHORITY.
CAUSE I THINK WE ARE THE SANITATION AUTHORITY AS A FULL BOARD.
SO I WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE 13 AND 14 OFF FOR NOW AND ADOPT THE OTHERS WITH THE CAVEAT.
AND I THINK MS. COLOURS HAD ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT AS FAR AS THE BROADBAND COMMITTEE.
AND WE'VE GOT THAT TAKEN CARE OF THE OTHER THING TOO IS, UM, AND MAYBE THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.
I HAVE NOT HEARD ANY REPORT BACK FROM MS. COLORS IN OUR AD HOC COMMITTEE ON THE POS F, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A ONGOING COMMITTEE OR NOT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR, NO, THAT'S JUST A REVIEW COMMITTEE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A LONG-TERM COMMITTEE THAT, OKAY.
SO DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS? NO, I'M, I'M SORRY.
WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO COME BACK AND GIVE US WHAT YOUR REVIEW COMMITTEE FOUND OUT? IS THERE A REPORT WHEN WE'RE, IT'S NOT COMPLETE YET? OKAY.
AND THE ONLY OTHER THING IS I THINK THAT MS. OATS IS ON WHAT ARE YOU ON THE GANG AND DRUG TASK FORCE COMMITTEE CITIZENS.
AND THERE AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY INPUT OR IF YOU WANT TO SHARE OR WHAT, BUT I DID SEE IN THE PAPER TODAY THAT I GUESS THEIR SHERIFF IS PULLING OUT OF THE REGIONAL TASK FORCE.
DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THAT AT THIS TIME? CAN WE, CAN WE GET A MOTION AND GET THIS? WE ALL DEFERRED OUR REPORTS TODAY, WHICH I WOULD HAVE GIVEN THEM FOR IT.
I'M SURE YOU WOULD HAVE FOR THE SAKE OF TIME.
SO IF WE COULD TAKE CARE OF THIS MOTION YEP.
I'M MOVING THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MAKE THE 2021 FOR COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS WITH FOLLOWING CHANGES THAT WE POSTPONE.
AND 14, DO I HAVE A SECOND? I THINK YOU HAVE MORE CHANGES IN THAT, RIGHT? OH, THAT, WELL, WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES, THE 13, 14, THE ADDITION TO THE BROADBAND COMMITTEE, THE DRUG COMMITTEE, THE RAILROAD COMMITTEE, I THINK THAT'S THE JAIL COMMITTEE.
AS FAR AS THE ALTERNATIVE, DO WE HAVE TO LIST EVERYTHING OR WITH THE CHANGES AS PROPOSED? WELL, IT WASN'T JUST, YEAH, I WAS THINKING THAT TOO, BUT IT WASN'T JUST THE CHAIRMAN DESIGNATED THEN MR. CARTER BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE GOOD TOO, TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT I MAKE.
THE FOLLOWING COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS THAT HAD PROPOSED FOR 2021 AS PRESENTED WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, FROM MY NOTES, NUMBER SEVEN, UH, CHERYL COLORS HAS CHANGED TO WALL.
NUMBER 10, DELORES OWENS IS JOINS TO WALT MAY NUMBERS.
CHERYL IS JUST SUPPOSED TO WALK ME UP ON NUMBER 10 AND CAROL IS CHANGED TOO.
UM, WELL THEY, UM, AND NUMBER 13 AND 14 ARE, UH, DELETED FOR NOW.
UM, CHERYL COLORS IS SUBSTITUTED FOR WALTER MASON.
NO, WALT IS SUBSTITUTING FOR ME.
I'M REMOVED, RIGHT? WELL, DOESN'T THE NEW ONE.
SORRY, GETTING TO GET LATE AT NIGHT.
UM, AND WITH NUMBER 19, UM, THE BLANKS ARE, UH, MRS. OAKS AND MR. MAY AND THEN THERE WERE TWO OTHER DRUG PREVENTION WAS MRS. OATES, BROAD BROADBAND IS MYSELF AND, UM, MR. MAY AND RAILROAD IS MRS. OATES.
I MEAN, THAT WILL BE YOUR EMOTION.
UM, THEN I CAN MAKE THE MOTION.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, 2021 BOARD COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS AS PRESENTED WITH, UM, THE EXCLUSION FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION OF NUMBER 13 WARREN COUNTY PERSONNEL COMMITTEE, NUMBER 14, WARREN COUNTY SANITATION AUTHORITY.
MY SECOND, THE OTHER ONE PRESENTED.
AND THE OTHER IS ASK, ASKING HER PRESENTED A MOMENT AGO AND THE OTHER, THE DRUG PREVENTION, THE BROADBAND AND THE RAILROAD AS PRESENTED.
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ROCKY, A ROLL CALL.HI, MR. FOX, MR. MABE, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS HEARING? NONE.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? THE MOTION TO ADJOURN? DO I HAVE A SECOND? NOBODY WANTS TO SECOND I'LL SECOND.