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[00:00:03]

YEAH.

IF MY WATCH IS CORRECT, IT'S EIGHT 59.

SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOMENT

[A. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America]

OF SILENCE AND THEN WE'LL GET THE MEETING STARTED.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

OKAY.

IT'S NINE O'CLOCK.

SO I CALLED THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, MARCH 2ND, 2021 TO ORDER.

AND IF EVERYONE WOULD STAY IN AND WE'LL DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

GOOD MORNING.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TODAY.

UM, FIRST I'D LIKE

[B. Adoption of Agenda – Additions or Deletions]

TO HAVE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS HEARING? NONE.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT AS PRESENTED? YES, SIR.

I'M TALKING THAT UNDER THE CLOSED SESSION THAT THERE BEING ADDITION FOR BRIEFING THE BOARD ON A PERSONNEL ITEM THAT THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY IS AWARE OF THEM CAN PROVIDE THE INFORMATION.

OKAY.

SO ADD DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

HOW DID YOU WORD THAT? I'M TRYING TO WRITE IT DOWN.

SO FOR LEGAL MATTER, WOULD IT BE UNDER PERSONNEL? IT'S ILLEGAL.

IT'S A LEGAL MATTER UNDER, UNDER PERSONNEL.

WE'LL GET IT.

YOU'LL GET THAT CODE.

I'LL HAVE THAT BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE CAR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA WITH THE AMENDED CLOSED SESSION ITEM? IS THERE A SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ROLL CALL MS. SHIRAKI.

MR. MABE, MS. OATS, MADAM CHAIR.

AYE.

MR. FOX, MR. CARTER.

OKAY.

PRESENTATIONS,

[C. Presentation – Community Foundation of the Northern Shenandoah Valley – Larry Weiss]

COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF THE NORTHERN SHANANDOAH VALLEY.

MR. WEISE.

GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE BOARD TODAY.

MY NAME IS LARRY WEISS ON THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF THE NORTHERN SHENANDOAH VALLEY COMMUNITY FOUNDATION WAS FOUNDED IN 2001.

AND OUR PURPOSE IS TO INSPIRE PHILANTHROPY IN THE NORTHERN SHENANDOAH VALLEY.

AND WE DO THAT BY CONNECTING PHILANTHROPIC AGENCIES WITH AREA NONPROFIT AGENCIES AND OTHER INSTITUTIONS, COMMUNITY FOUNDATIONS ARE TAX EXEMPT, PUBLIC CHARITIES DEDICATED TO IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN A SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHIC REGION.

THERE ARE NOW MORE THAN 800 COMMUNITY FOUNDATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND THEY FACILITATE GIVING FROM DONORS TO CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS.

COMMUNITY FOUNDATIONS ALLOW DONORS, WHICH CAN BE INDIVIDUALS, OTHER CHARITIES, BUSINESSES, CIVICS, CLUBS, OR SCHOOLS TO ESTABLISH PERMANENTLY ENDOWED AND NON-IDENTIFIED FUNDS WITHIN ONE LARGE FOUNDATION EARNINGS FROM THE FOUNDATION.

ENDOWMENT ARE THEN DISTRIBUTED ANNUALLY BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH CHARITABLE GRANTS.

OUR COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF THE NORTHERN SHENANDOAH VALLEY SPECIFICALLY SERVES WARREN COUNTY.

IN ADDITION TO FREDERICK COUNTY CLARK COUNTY AND THE CITY OF WINCHESTER, VIRGINIA.

WE MAKE GRANTS TO SUPPORT CHARITABLE CAUSES AND THOSE ELIGIBLE RECIPIENTS CAN INCLUDE SCHOOLS, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, AND CHURCHES.

AND SPECIFICALLY WE SERVE AGENCIES AND DONORS BY PROVIDING NON-INDUSTRIAL AND ENDOWED FUNDS WITH VARIOUS INVESTMENT VEHICLES.

WITH DONOR ADVICE, FUNDS ADVISORS DECIDE GRANT RECIPIENTS ANNUALLY.

THIS CAN BE DONE THROUGH A COMPETITIVE GRANT OR A PASS THROUGH DISTRIBUTION.

WE ALSO PROVIDE THE ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT TO HANDLE IRS PAPERWORK, AGENCY VETTING, CHECK WRITING, AND FUND DISTRIBUTION.

AND WE GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY

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TO PROVIDE ANONYMITY FOR THOSE DONORS WHO WISH TO MAKE ANONYMOUS CONTRIBUTIONS.

WE GET BACK TO THE COMMUNITY WITH EARNINGS FROM ENDOWMENT, GIVEN BACK AS GRANTS, DISTRIBUTIONS, OR SCHOLARSHIPS.

THOSE CAN BE DONE THROUGH AGENCY FUNDS, DONOR ADVISED FUNDS OR UNRESTRICTED FUNDS.

WE ALSO SERVE AS THE FISCAL AGENT FOR COMMUNITY CAMPAIGNS THAT YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH, INCLUDING THE WINK RADIO CHAIN OF CHECKS AND THE WINCHESTER ROTARY COATS FOR KIDS CAMPAIGN.

THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF THE NORTHERN SHENANDOAH VALLEY IS ALSO THE FISCAL AGENT FOR THE NONPROFIT ALLIANCE OF THE NORTHERN SHENANDOAH VALLEY.

AS OF 1231 20 YEAR END 2020, THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION HAD OVER $9 MILLION IN ASSETS.

$9.1 MILLION SPECIFICALLY WERE MADE UP 125 FUNDS, SEVEN OF WHICH WERE NEW IN 20.

AND DURING 2020, WE MADE $522,901 IN GRANTS AND DISTRIBUTIONS.

AND APPROXIMATELY 30% OF THOSE IMPACTED THE WARREN COUNTY AREA.

IN TERMS OF WARREN COUNTY, JUST GIVING YOU A REPRESENTATIVE IDEA OF OUR IMPACT IN THIS COUNTY, UH, BETWEEN OUR FUND HOLDERS AND GRANT RECIPIENTS, WE TOUCH NUMEROUS AGENCIES IN THE COUNTY, INCLUDING THE BEAUTIFICATION OF FRONT ROYAL COMMITTEE.

UH, WE WORK WITH THE FRONT ROYAL AND WARREN COUNTY COATS FOR KIDS PROGRAM.

WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT FUNDS CURRENTLY FOR THE ROTARY CLUB OF FRONT ROYAL, A NUMBER OF STUDENT SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAMS THAT WE HELP THEM ADMINISTER.

WE WORK WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF WARREN COUNTY, SAMUEL'S PUBLIC LIBRARY ST.

LUKE'S DENTAL CLINIC, THE HOUSE OF HOPE FOR IT.

ROYAL WARREN COUNTY C CAP, THE WARREN COUNTY EDUCATIONAL ENDOWMENT, THE WELLS FARGO SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM.

AND IN THE LAST YEAR WE HAD TWO NEW FUNDS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED SPECIFICALLY TO PROMOTE AND SUPPORT CHARITABLE INTERESTS AND PROJECTS IN THE WARREN COUNTY AREA.

AND THAT IS THE BETH MEDVED WALLER FUND AND THE WEDNESDAY GROUP STRONGER TOGETHER FUND.

UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT AWARE, THE COUNTY WAS A RECIPIENT OF ONE OF OUR COMPETITIVE COCHRAN YOUTH FUND GRANTS LAST YEAR FOR THE COMP TOWNSON KISSING RIDE PROGRAM.

I HAVE LEFT SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION ON THE TABLE TO THE LEFT OF THE DOOR, AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AT THIS TIME.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS? OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AT THIS TIME.

[D. Public Comment Period (60 Minute Time Limit)]

IT'S THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

60 MINUTE PERIOD OF TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON MATTERS, NOT A PART OF A PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL COMMENTS WILL BE DIRECTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, NOT THE AUDIENCE BE CONSIDERED OF YOUR FELLOW SPEAKERS.

THERE SHOULD BE NO APPLAUSE, BOOING OR OTHER AUDIBLE DISRUPTION OF THE PROCEEDINGS THROUGH A SHOW OF HANDS.

THE CHAIR MAY ASK FOR A SHOW OF SUPPORT FOR COMMENTS MADE BY SPEAKERS, PLACARDS POSTERS, AND OTHER MEANS OF VISUAL DISPLAY OF COMMENTS WILL NOT BE PERMITTED IN THE BOARD MEETING ROOM.

THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS USED AS PART OF A FACTUAL PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD AND THE BOARD WILL NOT TOLERATE PERSONAL ATTACKS BY ANYONE ON ANY OTHER ONE.

ANY OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROCEEDING, MS. ROCKY, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? UH, YES.

MADAM CHAIR, MELISSA CHAPEL.

WHITE MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, GLASSES.

UM, THIS MORNING, I'M JUST FOLLOWING UP ON PRESENTATION WHILE I'VE MADE NUMEROUS PRESENTATIONS IN THE PAST ABOUT THE SHANANDOAH FARM SANITARY DISTRICT ON SOME TEPPER.

FIRST, I WAS HERE WITH A FEW DOCUMENTS FOR YOU ALL, AND THIS IS JUST TO GIVE A COUPLE MORE.

THAT ILLUSTRATE THE DIFFICULTY WE HAVE.

HEY, I'M MAKING SENSE OF THE FIGURES BECAUSE AS MEMBERS OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL US PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE SANITARY DISTRICT, SANITARY DISTRICT FEE PAYERS IN THE PAST, WE WERE ALWAYS PROVIDED THESE EXPENDITURE REPORTS FROM THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

AND THEN THERE ARE

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OTHER FIGURES THAT ARE PROVIDED IN THE ANNUAL BUDGETS FOR THE COUNTY OF THE WHOLE.

AND WHEN I'VE TRIED TO PUT TOGETHER SOME FIGURES TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON WITH OUR BUDGET AND HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE, AND WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING, I COULDN'T MATCH UP THE FIGURES THEY DON'T MATCH.

AND SO THESE ATTACHMENTS TODAY ARE JUST A COUPLE OF ILLUSTRATIONS OF THAT ONGOING SITUATION AND WHY IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW, OR ONE OF THE REASONS IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THE SANITARY DISTRICT, THE SHENANDOAH FARM SANITARY DISTRICT ACTUALLY HAS TO SPEND ON PROGRAMS. AND I'VE NOTICED IT IN THE PAST WHEN THERE HAVE BEEN PRESENTATIONS BY MR. CHILDRESS ON THE SANITARY DISTRICT CHAIRMAN, WELL WAS CHAIRMAN FOX, MR. FOX HAD ASKED ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS, ARE THESE PROJECTS FUNDED? AND THERE WAS NEVER AN ACTUAL YES OR NO ANSWER.

THERE WAS A ROUNDABOUT ANSWER THAT SAID, WELL, MAYBE, MAYBE NOT.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS YOU NEVER KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THERE IS.

THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANY ACCOUNTING OF ANY KIND FOR THE INCOME.

ALL WE KNOW WAS BALLPARK FIGURES FOR HOW MANY PROPERTIES THERE MAY BE IN THE SANITARY DISTRICT.

I'VE SEEN THE FIGURE 2,500, JUST AS AN ESTIMATE, BUT YOU NEVER GET AN ACTUAL, AND THEN YOU NEVER KNOW WHICH OF THOSE UNDER THE OLD SYSTEM WERE PAYING WHAT, BECAUSE UNIMPROVED PROPERTIES PAID ONE FEE AND IMPROVED PROPERTIES PAYING ANOTHER.

THERE WAS NEVER ANY ACCOUNTING PER THE INCOME.

WE NEVER HAD ANY ACCOUNTING FOR THE INCOME.

SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE EVEN IF YOU CAN FIND IN THE BUDGETS AND THE EXPENDITURE REPORTS, SOME FIGURES YOU COULD ADD UP FOR WHAT'S BEEN SPENT, YOU'D HAVE TO SUBTRACT THEM FROM.

SO YOU HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING HOW MUCH MONEY THERE IS.

SO, SO WE DO NEED, SO THAT WAS THE PAST.

NOW WE HAVE A NEW ADMINISTRATION WHERE WE'RE GETTING A NEW ADMINISTRATION ROLLING, AND WE WANT TO LOOK FORWARD.

HOW DO WE DO THAT? WE NEED SOME KIND OF A FIGURE TO START WITH A CLEAN SLATE.

WE NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THERE IS.

HOW DO WE FIGURE THAT OUT? SO WE NEED SOME KIND OF A, OF AN AUDIT, SOME KIND OF AN ACCOUNTING FOR INCOME, SANITARY, DISTRICT INCOME.

EVEN IF SOMEHOW SOMEBODY COMES UP WITH SOME KIND OF FIGURE TO START A CLEAN SLATE WITH, AND THEN SOME KIND OF AN ACCOUNTING FOR WHAT'S COMING OUT OF THAT.

SO THAT, SO THAT WE CAN KNOW WHERE WE STAND.

SO THAT'S THE POINT AND THE LITTLE ATTACHMENTS.

OH, AND THEN THERE'S A LITTLE SOMETHING AT THE BOTTOM, AS I'M SURE YOU ALL RECALL.

THERE'S A VERY SIMILAR, ONGOING PROBLEM WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF SHENANDOAH FARMS, WHICH IS A CORPORATION THAT THIS BOARD HAS USED IN THE PAST AS AN ADVISORY GROUP FOR THE SANITARY DISTRICT.

AND THERE'VE BEEN SOME ISSUES THAT THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY THERE.

AND SOMEONE DID FOR THE FUNDS FOR THE SANITARY DISTRICT FUNDS THAT THEY GET.

AND ANOTHER PERSON NOT ME, UM, ACTUALLY SUBMITTED A FOIL REQUEST TO THEM AND THEY DIDN'T COMPLY.

SO WE HAVE AN ONGOING PROBLEM THERE.

AND, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY MAINTAIN ACCOUNTS AT MORE THAN ONE BANK TOO.

I'VE HEARD, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE WHY THEY DO THAT IS ANYONE'S GUESS, BUT THEY'RE NOT PRODUCING THE RECORDS.

SO THAT'S JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION GOING FORWARD, NOT TO GO OVER THE PAST, BUT JUST GOING FORWARD AS WE START WITH A CLEAN SLATE, WE WANT THE ACCOUNTABILITY, RIGHT? SO THE ATTACHMENTS, THE FIRST ONE IS THE COPY OF THE EXPENDITURE REPORT WE RECEIVED THAT WAS POSTED SHANNON DOE FARM SANITARY DISTRICT HAS OUR WEB PAGE ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE.

RIGHT? AND SO THIS WAS POSTED FOR THE, FOR OUR SANITARY DISTRICT ON OUR WEBPAGE FOR THE SHANANDOAH FOREIGN SANITARY DISTRICT ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE.

IT'S THE EXPENDITURE REPORT PREPARED BY MR. CHILDRENS AND POST IT, THERE IT DOWN IT.

YEAH.

SO YOU SEE SOME, THERE WAS A BUDGET AMOUNT FOR THESE FIGURES.

THEN THERE WERE SOME ACTUAL EXPENDITURES.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT ACTUALLY SAYS WHAT THE INCOME WAS, RIGHT? SO THE ACTUAL EXPENDITURES CAME IN UNDER BUDGET.

THEY ALWAYS DO.

THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.

AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM, IT SAYS, IN ADDITION, THERE WAS THIS $329,285 LEFT OVER AFTER EXPENSES.

AND THAT'S PUT IN THIS SET ASIDE FUND FOR OUR SPECIAL ROAD PROJECTS, WHEN WE HAVE TO PAVE A ROAD, YOU KNOW, THESE WHAT THESE THINGS ARE, ALL RIGHT, THEN THE NEXT PAGE IS FROM

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THE COUNTY BUDGET.

THESE ARE THE ACTUAL FIGURES IN THE COUNTY BUDGET.

AND I'VE COPIED THAT FOR YOU FOR THE SHANANDOAH FARMS SANITARY DISTRICT THAT SHOW THE ACTUAL FIGURES FROM THE SAME YEAR AS THAT EXPENDITURE REPORT.

AND IT SHOWS DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, WHAT WAS TRANSFERRED TO SPECIAL PROJECTS WAS ACTUALLY $483,228.

THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE.

I'M NOT GREAT AT ARITHMETIC, BUT MY CALCULATOR SAID THE DIFFERENCE THERE IN ONE ACCOUNT IN ONE YEAR WAS $153,941.

SO THAT SHOWS ALL THAT PROVES.

IT ONLY PROVES THAT WHEN WE GET THE FIGURES, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY RELIABLE.

WE HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK EVERYTHING.

PRESUMABLY THE FIGURE AND THE COUNTY BUDGET AS AN ACTUAL IS THE CORRECT ONE, BECAUSE PO'S LOVELY.

THOSE HAVE BEEN AUDITED.

AND WE COULD ASSUME THAT'S THE CORRECT ONE, BUT THIS IS JUST ONE ACCOUNT FOR THE SANITARY DISTRICT.

THEY HAVE A BUNCH OF THEM SPEND ONE YEAR.

WE, I CAN, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.

I THINK YOU'RE AWARE THAT WE DID CREATE A COMMITTEE THAT WE'VE MET ONCE AND, UM, LOOKED OVER ITEMS THAT WE WERE, THAT THEY ASKED FOR FROM THE SANITARY DISTRICT, THE POS F UM, AND WE ARE MR. MIGUEL LIBERTY, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR WILL BE, WE'LL BE MEETING AGAIN WITH HIM TO LOOK OVER THE CONCERNS THAT YOU'RE BRINGING UP HERE AND TO FINISH THIS OUT, IT'S TAKEN A LITTLE LONGER THAN WHAT I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SIMPLY BECAUSE HE CAME IN IN, IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER TIMELINE, UM, AND THEN BUDGET.

SO IT IS ONGOING.

AND I PROMISE YOU, WE WILL BE LOOKING INTO ALL THESE CONCERNS AND THEN GIVE YOU A REPORT OR GIVE EVERYONE, YEAH, I GIVE EVERYONE AND, AND WE KNOW THAT, AND WE APPRECIATE IT.

THIS WAS JUST TO GIVE SOME DOCUMENTARY DOCUMENTARY UPDATE TO ILLUSTRATE A POINT.

YES, BUT NOT TOO.

I'M VERY MUCH ABOUT GOING FORWARD OF THOSE WHO HAVE TALKED TO ME ABOUT THIS, KNOW THAT I AM NOT ONE OF THE ONES WHO WANTS TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE ABOUT THE PAST.

THE PAST IS OVER, WE'RE STARTING FRESH AND ALL WE NEED IS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, HOW WHAT'S THE BASELINE FOR GOING FORWARD.

AND THIS WAS JUST TO ILLUSTRATE THAT THERE ARE SOME ISSUES SO THAT WHEN ANYBODY'S LOOKING LIKE AT ONE THING, IT COULD BE DIFFERENT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

AND JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE DOCUMENTATION FOR THAT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

THANKS.

MA'AM.

THANK YOU, MS. ROCKY, HAS ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP? YES.

MADAM CHAIR, TIM RADIGAN KIM RADIGAN SIX ZERO SEVEN NINE STONEWALL JACKSON HIGHWAY.

ONCE AGAIN.

HI.

I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT.

UM, AND THIS NEW CANCEL CULTURE THAT WE ARE NOW ENJOYING OR NOT ENJOYING, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.

I, UM, AM ANTICIPATING THE CANCELING OF THE NAME OF THAT HIGHWAY.

UM, BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE THING TO DO NOW, YOUR RACE, OUR HISTORY AS A CHILD, WHEN I LIVED IN THE SANDHILLS OF NEBRASKA AND THE LITTLE TOWN OF EMILIA, I WENT TO A ONE-ROOM SCHOOL AND I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE SERIES OF BOOKS, THE HARDY BOYS, THE NANCY DREWS, THE BOX CAR KIDS.

I MEAN, THE NAMES GO ON AND ON AND ON ONE PARTICULAR SERIES THAT I FELL IN LOVE WITH AND STILL FOLLOW EVIDENTLY TO THIS DAY IS THE LITTLE HOUSE IN THE PRAIRIE BOOKS.

I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, HAVE READ THEM.

I'VE GONE A STEP FURTHER.

AND I AM, UH, A MEMBER OF ALL THE LITTLE HOUSE IN THE PRAIRIE HISTORICAL SOCIETIES.

AND THIS IS MY HOPE ONE DAY TO TRAVEL UP TO SOUTH DAKOTA, TO, TO VISIT THE FINAL HOME OF MOL AND PAUL.

SO THAT BEING SAID, THE CANCELING CULTURE OF THE BOOKS THEY HAVE ATTACK.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DID SEVERAL YEARS AGO WAS TO REMOVE LAURA AND GO WILDER'S NAME FROM A, FROM AN AWARD BASED OFF OF SUPPOSEDLY RACIST

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COMMENTS THAT WAS WRITTEN INTO HER BOOKS.

NOW, THESE COMMENTS WERE WRITTEN DURING A TIME WHEN RACISM HADN'T BEEN FULLY ESTABLISHED YET I KNEW FOR COMMON NAMES AND JUST DARKIES AND THAT SORT OF THING, AND THE FEELING OF ANIMOSITY AND FEAR OF A NATIVE AMERICANS.

SO NOW WHEN YOU'RE AT A TIME WHERE THEY'RE GOING AFTER A BELOVED AUTHOR, A PERSON IS A PERSON, NO MATTER HOW SMALL AND TEACHES OUR CHILDREN, A LESSON THAT REGARDLESS OF WHO YOU ARE AND HOW SMALL YOU ARE, AND THE DIGNITY OF A HUMAN BEING AND THE HUMAN PERSON MUST BE MAINTAINED.

A FORMER SUPERVISOR, MR. TOM SAYER HAD THE HONOR OF READING THAT BOOK TO SOME ELEMENTARY THROUGH WILL YEARS AGO, I HAVE A MEMORY I'M MOM.

AND, AND YOU REMEMBER THE DAY WHERE HE SAT ON THE TOWN COUNCIL AND WAS TELLING EVERYBODY ABOUT THAT.

SO KNOCKED HER SUSAN'S UNDER ATTACK.

EVEN THE BOOK, DON'T REMEMBER THE TITLE OF IT.

IF SOMEBODY DOES REMIND ME OF THE LITTLE TOWN THAT WAS DESTROYED BY A HUGE MANUFACTURING COMPANY AND CUTTING DOWN ALL OF THE TREES AND DESTROYING THE LOCAL AREAS, ENVIRONMENTS, EVEN THAT ONE IS UNDER ATTACK.

I HATE TO USE MY NEXT STATEMENT, BUT I THINK IT SPEAKS VERY DIRECTLY TO THE POINT THAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE.

WE ARE LIVING IN AN AREA NOW.

WELL, WE NO LONGER THROW THE BOOKS ONTO A FIRE LIKE NAZI GERMANY YET ABOUT THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE PROMOTING THE CANCELLATION OF SOME OF OUR MOST PRECIOUS BOOKS, LITERATURE, MOVIES, YOU NAME, IT ARE BASICALLY DOING THE SAME THING FROM TANK TOSSING.

THESE BOOKS ONTO THE TRASH HEAP OF HISTORY AND FIGURATIVELY LIKING THEM ON FIRE.

IT WON'T BE LONG BEFORE THEY CALL AFTER THE HOLY BIBLE.

AFTER ALL THE HOLY BIBLE IS FULL OF INSTANCES.

WHEN I SAYS IN THE BIBLE, A MAN SHALL NOT LIE WITH A MAN.

THERE'S ALL SORTS OF INSTANCES WHERE THE FAR LEFT AND I'M CALLING IT OUT AS IT IS THE FAR LEFT.

WE'LL USE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SCOUR THROUGH THE HOLY BIBLE AND FIND THINGS THAT ARE CONTRARY TO TODAY'S WAY OF THINKING.

AND WE LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

WE ARE RULED BY UNCONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC AND WE ARE GUARANTEED THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH, RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS. WE'RE GUARANTEEING ALL SORTS OF RIGHTS IN REGARDS TO WHO MAY AND MAY NOT ENTER YOUR PROPERTY, WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN OWN A FIREARM FOR THE PROTECTION OF YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR PROPERTY.

UNFORTUNATELY, AND THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE FAR MILITANT LEFT, AS I CALL HIM WHO TURN AROUND AND CALL WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND MEMBERS OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY NAZIS WHEN OUR PARTY PLATFORM OR THE CONSERVATIVE PLATFORM COULD BE FURTHER FROM A NAZI IDEOLOGY, AS YOU CAN POSSIBLY SEE NAZI GERMANY RIPPED AWAY THAN GUNS OF THEIR CIVILIAN POPULATION, ERADICATED, UH, FREEDOM OF PRESS.

I HAVE NEVER ONCE HEARD.

AND I'M GOING TO SAY HIS NAME THAT MAY NOT BE POPPING OR FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP CALL FOR THE ELIMINATION OF FREE PRESS.

NO ARE THE ELIMINATION OF GUNS THAT ARE OWNED LEGALLY BY MILLIONS OF ADULTS, BUT YET THEY CALL HIM A NAZI, NO MA'AM.

AND WHO WANTED TO PROTECT THE BORDERS OF THIS COUNTRY TO DO HIS JOB, OR IT SAYS IN HIS ULTIMATE PROTECT THEM, OKAY.

FROM ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.

THIS MAN IS CALLED TO NAZI WHEN DOING WHAT HIS OATH TOLD HIM TO DO, PEOPLE DON'T DON'T LIKE HIM BECAUSE HE'S BRASH AND HE'S A BRACKER OKAY.

I DON'T NECESSARILY CARE FOR THE MAN'S PERSONALITY, BUT HE TOOK HIS OATH AS THE PRESIDENT VERY SERIOUSLY.

AND GOING BACK TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE WITH THE CANCEL CULTURE, I'M ALMOST TEMPTED TO CALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SPEARHEADING THIS CANCEL CULTURE AND ACE AND ACE OF SPADE, A SPADE ON NAZI AND NAZI.

AND THIS IS THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WE SAW IN NAZI, GERMANY ONLY.

THEY LITERALLY TOOK THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS, BOBBY

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MILLIONS OF BOOKS, AND CAST THEM ONTO THE FIRE.

WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS TO CONTINUE WHEN YOU MUST STAND UP AND DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION AND THE LIKES OF ALEXANDRIA, OCASIO, CORTEZ, NANCY PELOSI, ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE ON THE FAR LEFT ARE TRYING DESPERATELY TO FLIP THE SYSTEM.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE BEING SHOT DOWN.

THEY ARE CREATING A CULTURE WHERE YOU NO LONGER AND RESPECT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

YOU NO LONGER RESPECT THE ROLE OF PARENTS.

THERE'S NO SECRET TO ME AS TO WHY OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM IS ONE OF THE LOWEST IN THE NATION.

THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THE LIBERAL ESTABLISHMENT HAS HELD OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM HOSTAGE FOR DECADES.

AND WE ARE NOW SEEING THE RESULTS OF THAT.

AND UPCOMING GENERATIONS, OUR CHILDREN DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ OUR CHILDREN.

DON'T UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF OUR HISTORY.

SO WE ARE AT A TURNING POINT.

I USED TO SAY, AS BEN FRANKLIN, DID YOU SEE THAT SUN SETTING ON ARGUES EVIL OR THE SUN RISING ON OUR GAZEBO? BECAUSE HE WAS SURROUNDED BY IT AS THE LITTLE HALF CIRCLE.

WHEN THE CENTER WITH THE RAYS SHOOTING OUT, I USED TO SAY TO MYSELF, WE ARE LOOKING INTO THE RISING SUN BECAUSE AMERICA'S BEST DAYS ARE STILL AHEAD.

I'M NOW LOOKING AT THAT HALF SENDING SUN AND SAYING, ARE WE LOOKING AT A TIME? ONE OF AMERICA'S BEST DAYS ARE BEHIND HIM.

WE WERE HEADING INTO THE TWILIGHT.

THIS COUNTRY WILL STILL REMAIN, BUT WILL THE CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC THAT OUR FOUNDING FATHERS WERE SO WISE IN CREATING AS BENJAMIN FRANKLIN TOLD THE LADY WHO ASKED HIM, WHAT DID YOU CREATE A REPUBLIC? MA'AM IF YOU CAN KEEP IT.

WE ARE AT THAT POINT NOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO TAKE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN.

AND I LOOK TO OUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BECAUSE YOU ARE A FORM OF OUR GOVERNMENT CHOSEN BY THE PEOPLE.

I LOOKED FOR YOU TO SET THE EXAMPLE AND STAND UP AGAINST THIS.

AND IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL FOR A SMALL PERIOD OF SILENCE AND ON HER OF OFFICER WYNDHAM AND THEN HIS SOUL REST IN PEACE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR PATIENCE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. RADIGAN HAS ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP MRS. SHAHRAKI NO, BUT I'M SURE AT

[E. Report – Virginia Public School Authority (VPSA) Bond Refunding Update – Ted Cole]

THIS TIME WOULD DO, UM, REPORT VIRGINIA PUBLIC SCHOOL AUTHORITY BOND.

MR. COLE AND MR. COLE IS ON ZOOM.

SO HE SHOULD BE POPPING UP ANY MOMENT, EMILY, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU JUST FINE, MR. COLE.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, WELL I APPRECIATE BEING, UM, ALLOWED TO SPEAK THIS MORNING.

UM, LOOKING, UH, I'M LOOKING AT MY SCREEN AND MAKING SURE YOU ALL CAN HEAR ME.

OKAY.

I BELIEVE YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE IN YOUR AGENDA PACKETS, A REFUNDING SUMMARY OF THE 2014 PPSA BOND DATED MARCH 2ND.

IT'S A SIX PAGE DOCUMENT.

UH, EMILY, IS THAT AVAILABLE TO THEM? YES, IT IS.

IT IS IN THEIR PACKETS.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE, UM, ON THE BOARD LAST FALL, MAYBE ALL OF YOU WILL RECALL THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS PREVIOUSLY, UM, AS A REFUNDING OPPORTUNITY, UM, FOR BONDS THAT THE COUNTY ISSUED IN 2014.

AND, UM, WE, WE, WE SET THIS UP LAST FALL TO PARTICIPATE IN ONE OF THE STATE FUNDING PROGRAMS FOR SCHOOLS CALLED THE VIRGINIA PUBLIC SCHOOL AUTHORITY.

UM, THE BOARD TOOK ACTION LAST FALL, AS DID THE SCHOOL BOARD VPN, AS WE CALL IT WENT FORWARD AND SOLD THEIR BONDS.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO INCLUDE SOME OF THOSE 20 FOURTEENS IN LAST FALLS, REFUNDING, NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT SOME OF, SOME OF THEM WERE NOT PRODUCING ADEQUATE SAVINGS.

SO WE LEFT THOSE OUT.

SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE DID LAST FALL WAS A PARTIAL REFUNDS OF, UH, THE 2014 BONDS.

AND WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS MORNING IS THE POSSIBILITY OF GOING BACK AND VPN

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SPRING POOL THIS SPRING, AND LOOKING TO REFUND THE REMAINING CALLABLE BONDS TIED BACK TO THE 14TH.

SO SORT OF CLEANING UP WHAT DID NOT GET DONE LAST FALL WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SECOND PAGE OF THE PRESENTATION, IT'S PAGE NUMBER ONE IN THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER PAGE ONE, YOU WILL SEE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, SOME OF THE KEY STATISTICS OF THIS PROPOSED REFUNDING ABOUT $20 MILLION IS OUTSTANDING.

THAT CAN BE REFUNDED.

IT'S GOT INTEREST RATES BETWEEN THREE AND 5%.

THESE BONDS ARE CALLABLE IN JULY OF 2024 AT PAR MEANING NO PENALTY.

AND WE ARE LOOKING TO, AS I SAID, PICK UP THE MATURITIES THAT DID NOT GET REFUNDED LAST FALL.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO EXTEND THE TERM OF THE DEBT OR SHORT NAME.

IT WE'RE KEEPING THE PAYMENTS THE SAME AS WHAT'S OUT THERE TODAY.

AND BASED ON CURRENT MARKET ESTIMATES, WE ARE, UH, CALCULATING ABOUT ALMOST 1.5 MILLION OF GROSS SAVINGS ON A PRESENT VALUE BASIS.

SOME ONLINE 15, 16, AND 17 ON THE LEFT GROSS SAVINGS ABOUT 1.5 PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS OF ABOUT 1.25.

AND ANOTHER WAY THAT WE CALCULATE THE EFFICIENCY OF A REFUNDING IS A NET PRESENT VALUE PERCENTAGE, UH, OF ABOUT 6.2% IN THIS CASE.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS AND WE ACCOUNT FOR, UH, ISSUANCE COSTS, DPSA RELATED COSTS ON THE FAR RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE, BASED ON CURRENT MARKET ESTIMATES, WE'RE AROUND 75, $78,000 A YEAR OF SAVINGS.

IF MARKETS HOLD, UH, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SCHEDULE, BUT ARE THE BOND MARKET THAT, THAT DPSA SELLS INTO MOVES AROUND EVERY DAY? UM, WE HAVE SEEN QUITE A BIT OF VOLATILITY IN RECENT WEEKS, PARTICULARLY IN NOVEMBER.

AND GENERALLY WE'VE SEEN RATES RISING AS RATES RISE, UH, SAVINGS FOR A REFUNDING GO DOWN THESE SAVINGS THAT WE'RE SHOWING YOU AT OUR AS OF, UH, FEBRUARY 24TH.

SO THE MIDDLE OF LAST WEEK, BUT, BUT WE KNOW THAT THESE SAVINGS WILL EBB AND FLOW AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE SPRING, AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE SALE DATE FOR PPSA, WHICH IS NOT UNTIL APRIL 20TH.

SO IF IT IS, IF YOU ALL CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD, UM, TODAY IS JUST INFORMATIONAL.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANY ACTION, UH, BUT THERE WILL BE, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE PLANNED FOR A RESOLUTION FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER, UM, AT YOUR MARCH 16TH, MEETING THE SCHOOL BOARD TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AT THEIR MARCH 17TH MEETING.

AND IF THOSE ARE APPROVED AND YOU ALL DECIDE, YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, THE PSA WILL SELL THEIR BONDS ON APRIL 20TH.

THAT'S THE DATE WHERE THE RATES WILL BE LOCKED IN.

THE SAVINGS WILL BE LOCKED IN AND THEY CLOSED A FEW WEEKS LATER.

UH, THE BPS A BOARD MEETS ON MARCH 10TH.

WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY PROBLEM WITH THEM APPROVING THE APPLICATION.

WE DID SUBMIT AN APPLICATION.

IT'S A NON-BINDING APPLICATION.

UM, I DON'T EXPECT THAT DPSA WILL HAVE ANY PROBLEM APPROVING IT.

AND THEN AS I SAID, THE RESOLUTION OF THE COUNTY BOARD AND THE SCHOOL BOARD WILL BE THE LOCAL APPROVALS.

IF, IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD AND WITHIN THOSE LOCAL APPROVALS, LIKE WE DID LAST FALL, WE WILL ESTABLISH MINIMUM SAVINGS THRESHOLDS FOR THIS REFUNDING OR FOR THIS TRANSACTION.

SO, UM, WE TYPICALLY MEASURE THOSE AND THE NET PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS PERCENTAGE.

AGAIN, GOING BACK TO PAGE ONE ON LINE 17, THAT IS THE METRIC THAT IS USUALLY USED TO DETERMINE A SAVINGS PARAMETER FOR A REFUND.

AND SO WE'RE A LITTLE OVER 6%.

NOW LAST FALL, THE PARAMETER WAS 3% OR GREATER.

UM, WE ACTUALLY ENDED UP AT ABOUT 5% ON WHAT REFUNDING WE DID LAST FALL.

SO WE WERE A LITTLE BETTER THAN THE MINIMUM PARAMETER OF 3%.

AND IF RATES HOLD WHERE THEY ARE TODAY, WE COULD BE AROUND 6%, BUT THE RESOLUTION YOU ALL WOULD CONSIDER WOULD ESTABLISH THAT MINIMUM LEVEL OF SAVINGS.

SO JUST TO RECAP, PAGE ONE, THE SAVINGS ON A FISCAL YEAR BASIS ARE ON THE RIGHT-HAND COLUMN, HIGHLIGHTED IN THAT LIGHT GREEN COLOR, AGAIN ABOUT $75,000 A YEAR

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BASED ON CURRENT MARKET AND OVER THE REMAINING LIFE OF THE LOAN, ABOUT 1,000,489 OF GROSS SAVINGS.

AGAIN, SUBJECT TO CHANGE AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF APPROVALS.

AND WE GET CLOSER TO THE APRIL, UH, SALE DATE.

BEFORE I GO TO PAGE TWO, JUST WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT DISCUSSION.

NO, SIR.

OKAY.

UM, PAGE TWO, WHICH HAS GOT A NUMBER OF COLUMNS HERE ACROSS THE TOP, A THROUGH G AGAIN, YOU ALL MAY REMEMBER THIS FROM OUR DISCUSSION LAST FALL, JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE OF HOW THE SAVINGS ON THIS POTENTIAL REFUNDING COULD EBB AND FLOW AS INTEREST RATES MOVE.

AND SO UNDER COLUMN B AS IN BOY IS THE CURRENT MARKET ESTIMATE THAT I JUST TALKED THROUGH ON PAGE ONE, WE'RE JUST RESTATING THAT ON THIS SLIDE, GRAND TOTAL OF SAVINGS DOWN IN THE BOTTOM, 1,000,489, ESTIMATED COLUMN C AS IN CAT IS WHAT THE SAVINGS WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH A 10 BASIS POINT INCREASE IN INTEREST RATES.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE GO FROM A, A ONE 90 RATE TO A 2% RATE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SAVINGS GO DOWN TO ABOUT A MILLION, TWO 22, CONVERSELY IF RATES FALL SAVINGS, GO UP.

SO IF WE GO FROM A ONE 90 TO A ONE 80, WE PICK UP SAVINGS, WE'RE AT ABOUT A MILLION, SEVEN 50.

SO IT JUST GIVES YOU A SENSE OF HOW THE SAVINGS THAT COULD BE DERIVED FROM THIS REFUNDING WILL MOVE WITH MOVEMENT IN THE, IN THE BOND MARKET, WHICH THE BOND MARKET WILL ABSOLUTELY MOVE BETWEEN NOW AND APRIL 20TH.

UH, WE JUST NEED TO WATCH IT.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE SAFEGUARDS IN THE RESOLUTION IN TERMS OF PARAMETERS, UH, TO PROTECT YOU ALL FROM BEING IN A TRANSACTION THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY ECONOMIC SENSE AGAIN, JUST LIKE WE DID IN THE FALL.

UM, AND THEN I WANT TO TALK ABOUT COLUMNS E F AND G FOR A MINUTE.

UM, YOU ALL DON'T NEED TO DO THIS TRANSACTION, RIGHT? YOU DIDN'T NEED TO DO THE REFUNDING LAST FALL.

UM, ONE, ONE STRATEGY MIGHT HAVE BEEN TO WAIT, LET'S WAIT TO DO THIS TRANSACTION LATER TILL WE GET CLOSER TO THAT CALL DATE.

AND YOU MAY REMEMBER THE CALL DATE ON THESE BONDS IS JULY OF 2024.

THAT'S THE DATE THAT THE BONDS CAN BE PULLED FROM THE CURRENT BOND HOLDERS NOT BEFORE THEN.

SO IF WE DO A REFINANCING, WE BORROW MONEY AND WE PUT IT IN AN ACCOUNT DEDICATED ACCOUNT, AND WE INVESTED IN US TREASURIES, AND WE PUT IT IN THERE TO THE PENNY OF WHAT WE NEED TO PAY OFF THE BONDS.

ON SEVEN 15 OF 24, IT'S CALLED AN ADVANCE REFUNDING.

THEY HAPPEN QUITE OFTEN.

UM, THAT'S WHAT WE DID LAST FALL.

THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DO IF WE DO THIS THIS SPRING.

UM, BUT THERE IS AN OPTION.

THE OPTION IS LET'S WAIT, LET'S NOT DO THIS RIGHT NOW.

LET'S WAIT AND SEE, UM, HOW THIS LOOKS AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE CALL DATE, BECAUSE THAT ESCROW BETWEEN NOW AND JULY OF 2024 IS NOT VERY EFFICIENT.

IT'S PAYING INTEREST ON THE BONDS AT THREE AND 5%, BUT IT'S EARNING LESS THAN 1%, A FAIR AMOUNT, LESS THAN 1% RIGHT NOW.

SO IT'S A FAIRLY INEFFICIENT ESCROW.

NOW WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR THAT IN OUR SAVINGS.

SO, YOU KNOW, W WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAVINGS OF 1,000,489, EXCUSE ME, WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR THAT ESCROW INEFFICIENCY, BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE UNDER COLUMN E AND F IS WE'VE SHOWN YOU IF YOU WAIT, AND IF INTEREST RATES STAY WHERE THEY ARE TODAY, WHAT ADDITIONAL SAVINGS CAN YOU GET? SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT COLUMN E WE SAID, WELL, LET'S, LET'S SEE WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.

IF WE DO THE TRANSACTION IN MAY OF 23, WE WAIT ESSENTIALLY TWO YEARS.

IF RATES STAY EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE, YOU CAN SEE OUR SAVINGS GO UP TO $2.6 MILLION UNDER COLUMN E.

IF WE WAIT TO DO THIS UNTIL THE SPRING OF 24, AND RATES STAY EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE TODAY, OUR SAVINGS WOULD BE ALMOST 3.4 MILLION.

SO WE KNOW THAT IF RATES REMAIN AT THE CURRENT LEVELS, AND IF WE WAIT, WE CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE SAVINGS.

THE UNKNOWN IS WHAT WILL RATES DO BETWEEN NOW AND WHENEVER IT IS THAT WE MIGHT DO THE TRANSACTION.

UM, AND THAT'S SORT OF THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION, IF YOU WILL.

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UM, AND IT'S ONE THAT WE TALKED QUITE A BIT ABOUT LAST FALL.

UM, GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHERE WE'RE IN A VERY LOW INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT, ALTHOUGH I WILL TELL YOU, UH, WHAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST MONTH, WE'VE STARTED TO SEE OUR RATES RISE A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK PLAYING OFF OF BETTER ECONOMIC NEWS, BETTER NEWS ON COVID-19 AND VACCINATIONS CONCERNS ABOUT INFLATION.

UH, TIME WILL TELL WHETHER THAT'S A SUSTAINABLE TREND OR IT'S A BLIP, BUT WE HAVE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPTICK IN RATES.

UM, AND I THINK WHEN WE TALKED THROUGH THIS LAST FALL, THERE WAS A GENERAL CONCERN THAT, YOU KNOW, RATES ARE MORE APT TO GO HIGHER THAN GO LOWER.

AND I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS WHY THE COUNTY DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH APPROVING THE REFUNDING LAST FALL.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE IN A REAL DIFFERENT BOAT HERE TODAY.

YOU COULD DO BETTER BY WAITING IF RATES REMAIN LOW, BUT THEY'RE ON LINE FOUR.

YOU CAN SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, RATES COULD GO UP BY ABOUT 55 BASIS POINTS AND YOU BREAK EVEN TO WAITING UNTIL 2023, IF RATES GO UP BY ABOUT 1.3%, UH, OR GREATER, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD BREAK EVEN, UM, TO TODAY, IF YOU HAD WAITED UNTIL 20, 24, THOSE ARE FAIRLY LARGE MOVEMENTS, BUT THEY'RE NOT UNPRECEDENTED IN OUR MARKET.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE HAVE SEEN THAT KIND OF MOVEMENT HIGHER AND INTEREST RATES, BOTH TAXABLE AND TAX EXEMPT, UM, OVER THOSE, YOU KNOW, 12, 24, 36 MONTHS TIMEFRAME.

THE LAST THING I WANT TO MENTION IS COLUMN G, WHICH IS A HYPOTHETICAL CASE.

WE'VE WON THIS BECAUSE THERE IS TALK ABOUT CHANGING THE TAX LAW BACK TO, UM, A PLACE WHERE AN ADVANCE REFUNDING, WHICH IS WHAT THIS TRANSACTION WOULD BE, WHERE THAT COULD BE DONE ON A TAX EXEMPT BASIS RATHER THAN A TAXABLE BASIS.

WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A TAXABLE REFUNDING BECAUSE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH TAX LAW.

THERE IS A DISCUSSION AND LEGISLATION THAT'S BEEN INTRODUCED.

MR. COLE WOULD PROTEST OR CALL THERE'S NO COLUMN G ON OUR, ON OUR SHEETS.

ALL RIGHT, I'M SORRY.

I SENT THAT TO STAFF MAYBE A LITTLE LATE AFTER THE AGENDA PACKET WENT OUT.

ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.

WHAT I'LL TELL YOU IS IT'S, IT'S A HYPOTHETICAL CASE THAT ASSUMES TRANSACT, WAIT A MINUTE, BOARD MEMBERS, THERE IS A SECOND PRESENTATION FOLLOWING THIS SIX PAGE DOCUMENT.

IF YOU FLIP ONCE MORE, THERE IS A NOTE ALONG THE TOP OF THAT PRESENTATION THAT STATES, OH, THERE IT IS.

YEAH.

SO THERE, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT SIX PAGE PRESENTATIONS, THE FIRST ONE AND THE SECOND I GOTCHA.

YEAH.

SO THERE, THERE SHOULD BE A SECOND PRESENTATION BEHIND IT.

THAT DOES INCLUDE THAT COLUMN.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

WE GOT IT NOW.

ALL RIGHT.

SO PAGE TWO SHOULD HAVE A COLUMN G ON THE FAR RIGHT.

HYPOTHETICAL.

EVERYTHING TO THE LEFT IS THE SAME AS WHAT I JUST DISCUSSED.

IT'S THE SENSITIVITIES AND WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE IF YOU WAIT COLUMN G IS THE HYPOTHETICAL THAT IF, IF THERE WERE TO BE A CHANGE IN THE TAX LAW, AND THERE IS DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, THERE HAS BEEN SOME LEGISLATION INTRODUCED IF IT PASSES, WHEN IT PASSES IS ANYONE'S GUESS, BUT IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY ALLOW THIS TRANSACTION THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO BE DONE ON A, UM, ON A TAX EXEMPT BASIS RATHER THAN A TAXABLE BASIS.

AND IF THAT WERE PERMITTED TODAY, BASED ON CURRENT MARKET RATES, YOU COULD SEE OUR SAVINGS WOULD BE ABOUT 2.1 MILLION, ALMOST 2.2 MILLION.

SO DOING THIS TRANSACTION ON A TAX EXEMPT BASIS IS ABSOLUTELY BETTER THAN DOING IT ON A TAXABLE BASIS, BUT CURRENT LAW DOES NOT PERMIT IT ON A TAX EXEMPT BASIS.

ALTHOUGH THERE IS DISCUSSION AND LEGISLATION, UM, OUT THERE TO TRY TO ALLOW FOR THAT, I WILL TELL YOU WE'D LOST THAT ABILITY.

I THINK IT WAS BACK IN 2018, THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT REINSTATING IT PERIODICALLY ON AND OFF.

PERHAPS IT'S GOT MORE, UM, MORE LIFE TO IT UNDER THE NEW ADMINISTRATION, BUT WE JUST DON'T KNOW.

SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A REFUNDING WITHIN CERTAIN PARAMETERS.

UM, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT TIGHT AND THINK ABOUT DOING THIS LATER, THE RISK WOULD BE WHAT DO RATES DO? AND THERE'S POTENTIALLY A PATH WHERE NEW LEGISLATION GETS APPROVED

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AND YOU COULD DO THIS ON A TAX EXEMPT BASIS.

AGAIN, WHEN AN, IF IS THE BIG UNKNOWN, UM, I GUESS ED KEITH, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU'RE SORT OF READING THE CROWD THERE.

ANY QUESTIONS, ANYTHING YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO ADD QUESTION IF IN THIS PROCESS, TED, THE BOARD HAS THE RIGHT TO PULL THE PLUG AT ANY TIME UP UNTIL THE ACTUAL SALE.

THEY COULD SAY, NO, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SAVINGS HERE.

IF THE RATES CAME IN, LIKE THEY DID IN THE FALL AND WE WANT TO HOLD OFF.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND, AND, UM, AS I BELIEVE THERE MAY BE A SMALL, UH, COST RELATED TO VPLC IF THAT WERE THE CASE, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT $5,000 AT MOST.

I'M NOT EVEN SURE THEY WOULD ACTUALLY CHARGE THAT, BUT YOU ARE CORRECT.

YOU'VE GOT ONE, YOU'VE GOT PROTECTION IN THE PARAMETER THAT YOU INCLUDE IN YOUR RESOLUTION.

BUT IN TALKING WITH VPN, UM, YOU CAN PULL OUT OF THIS, UM, EVEN, YOU KNOW, CLOSER OR ON THE SALE DATE, IF THE SAVINGS AREN'T ADEQUATE.

SO WHAT WOULD BE THE COST TO THE COUNTY? IF WE DID DECIDE TO PULL OUT, UH, CLOSER TO THE SALE DATE AND UP TO THE SALE DATE AND DECIDED THE SAVINGS WE WANTED TO HOLD OFF, WE DIDN'T LIKE THE SAVINGS YOU'VE GOT.

YOU'VE GOT ESSENTIALLY THREE POTENTIAL PLACES FOR COSTS.

UM, ONE WOULD BE OUR FEE DAVENPORT.

WE, WE WE'VE COMMITTED.

AND LIKE WE DO ON THE REFUNDINGS THAT WE'LL WORK AT RISK ON THIS.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, MARKETS MOVE AND THINGS ARE OUT OF YOUR CONTROL.

SO THERE WOULD BE NO FEE DUE TO US IF YOU DECIDE NOT TO MOVE FORWARD.

UM, YOUR BOND COUNSEL, I BELIEVE ED WOULD WORK IN THE SAME MODE, UNDERSTANDING THAT MARKETS MOVE, YOU CAN'T CONTROL IT.

UM, SO I BELIEVE THAT THE ONLY POTENTIAL EXPOSURE WOULD BE, UM, SOME I RELATIVELY SMALL FEE FROM VPS, A FOR THEIR ATTORNEY, FOR THEIR COUNSEL'S WORK AND PREPARING CERTAIN DOCUMENTS THAT NEED TO BE PREPARED BEFORE THE SALE.

AND IF MY MEMORY SERVES CORRECTLY, I THINK THE CAP ON THAT WAS ABOUT $5,000.

SO THEN, AND THAT WOULD BE TO THE PSA'S BOND COUNSEL, CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO THE BOARD'S RISK GREAT NOW IS A MINIMAL NOT TO MAKE LIGHT AT THE 5,000, BUT THE POTENTIAL TO SAVE 70,000 A YEAR.

UH, OBVIOUSLY THIS ITEM G WOULD BE OUR MOST PREFERRED APPROACH BECAUSE IT GETS US THE SAVINGS NOW RATHER THAN WAITING TO 2023 OR 2024.

UH, SO I THINK WE'LL LOOK AT THIS RESOLUTION FOR THE BOARD AT YOUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING ON THE 16TH FOR YOU TO CONSIDER AT THAT TIME AND SEE WHERE THE MARKET IS AT THAT TIME.

THE MARKET CHANGED A LOT THIS PAST WEEK.

UH, WEDNESDAY, THIS LOOKED GOOD WITH WHAT YOU HAVE HERE FRIDAY.

IT DID NOT LOOK NEARLY AS GOOD.

AND NOW IT'S BACK A LITTLE BETTER AGAIN.

SO IT, IT FLUCTUATES A LOT, MR. MICK LIBERTY.

THANK YOU.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD TO THAT IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE TEN-YEAR TREASURY, WHICH IS TENDS TO BE YOUR INDICATOR OF WHERE MUNICIPAL BONDS ARE GOING TO GO INTO MARKET, WELL, THEY WERE UNDER UNDER 0.9, TWO WEEKS AGO.

THERE WAS 1.4 TODAY.

SO THAT IS A GOOD THING FOR YOU TO WATCH OVER THE NEXT TWO OR THREE WEEKS.

NOT THAT IT WILL GIVE YOU A DIRECT CORRELATION, BUT IT GIVES YOU AN INDICATOR OF WHERE MUNICIPAL BONDS ARE GOING TO GO.

TED WILL TRACK THAT AS WELL.

IN HIS MODEL, OF COURSE, THE IDEA WOULD BE TO DO IT ON A TAX EXEMPT BASIS.

WE ARE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION, I THINK TED WAS SECRETARY BUDAJ AND I BELIEVE IS PUSHING FOR THE TAXING HOME STATUS TO BE ALLOWED FOR REFUNDING BONDS PRIOR TO THE CALL DATE.

AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GOING TO GO, BUT WE DO KNOW INTEREST RATES HAVE GONE UP IN THE LAST 10 DAYS.

WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT TAX STATUS IS GOING TO BE APPROVED IN WASHINGTON TO ALLOW US TO GET THE BENEFIT OF COLLIN G.

SO AS DR.

DALEY SAID, I THINK WE'RE BEST IF WE POSTURE OURSELVES NOT TO BE IN THE MARKET SPECULATION BUSINESS, BUT WE SEE WHERE WE ARE IN MAY PROCEED WITH THE RESOLUTION.

SO YOU CAN GIVE US THROUGH

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AUTHORIZATION AND WE SEE WHERE THE MARKET STANDS PRIOR TO THE SELL.

UM, WE KNOW WE WOULD GET, WE WOULD GET 1.4 MILLION.

NOW THAT GIVES US ABOUT 80,000 A YEAR SAVINGS.

THAT'S A BIRD IN THE HAND VERSUS SPECULATING WHERE THE MARKET MIGHT GO.

SO PLAYING A CONSERVATIVE, WE WOULD ASK, AS DR.

DALEY SAID, YOU PROCEED WITH THE AUTHORIZATION AND THE RESOLUTION, AND WE SEE WHERE THE MARKET STANDS PRIOR TO THE SALE DATE IN MAY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ANY, UM, MR. COLE OR MR. MICK LIBERTY OR MR. OR DR.

DALEY AND MR. COLE, THANK YOU FOR, UM, GOING OVER THIS WITH US.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, TED.

SO MR. DAILY, IF I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY, IS IT, IF THEY, IF THE LEGISLATION CHANGES, THEN THE PEOPLE HOLDING THE CURRENT BONDS GET SHORTED, RIGHT? THAT THOSE BONDS ARE STILL TAXABLE.

OKAY.

AND SO THEY WOULD STILL BE PAID AT THE RATE THEY WERE ISSUED.

OKAY.

WHAT IT WOULD DO IS IF THE NEW BONDS BECOME TAX EXEMPT, THEN WE HAVE MORE THAN THE NEW BONDS WOULD BE ISSUED AT A LOWER RATE IN THAT COLUMN G THAN WHAT HE HAD IN THE EARLIER COLUMNS AND CHANGES.

SO THEY STILL GET THE ORIGINAL BOND HOLDERS STILL GET PAID FROM THE ESCROW ACCOUNT.

THEY DON'T LOSE ANY MONEY.

NOBODY LOSES MONEY.

IF THIS LEGISLATION CHANGE.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THAT'S.

THAT WAS WHAT I WAS WONDERING, BECAUSE I THOUGHT, HOW WOULD THAT WORK IF YOU CHANGE SOMETHING FROM TAXABLE TO TAX EXEMPT, HOW DOES TELL DOES THAT GO IN TERMS OF THE PEOPLE, IF THE SALE WAS THE TAXABLE PIECE.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY.

UH,

[F. Report – COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Expenditures for Warren County – Taryn Logan]

COVID-19 UH, EXPENDITURES FOR WARREN COUNTY REPORT, MRS. LOGAN.

GOOD MORNING.

UM, AT YOUR DESK, YOU HAVE A COPY OF, UM, THE SPREADSHEET SHOWING THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND THEIR, UM, EXPENDITURES.

SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC.

UM, THE COUNTY IS CURRENTLY AT $521,494.

AND, UM, JUST CONTINUING TO WORK WITH FEMA AND, UM, WE HAVE A SPECIFIC REPRESENTATIVE FOR, FOR OUR COUNTY AND I'M JUST GOING LINE ITEM BY LINE ITEM AND SEEING WHAT THEY, UM, WILL APPROVE, OR IF THEY NEED MORE INFORMATION ABOUT ITEMS. SINCE I LAST REPORTED TO YOU, UM, THE MAIN, THE EXPENDITURES HAVE SLOWED DOWN AND THE MAIN, UM, EXPENDITURES HAVE BEEN FOR JUST ADDITIONAL PPE AND, UM, GETTING THE COURTHOUSE READY FOR JURY I'M INSTALLING OR ORDERING THE PLEXIGLASS SCREENING.

I'M GETTING ALL OF THAT INSTALLED.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS FOR MRS. LOGAN? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I KNOW THIS IS A LOT AND WE APPRECIATE YOU STAYING ON TOP OF IT AS WELL.

IT HAS IT'S IT'S SLOWING DOWN, SO HOPEFULLY, UM, WE CAN START GETTING OUR REIMBURSEMENT.

SO THANK YOU.

UM, RE

[G. Report – Virginia Department of Transportation – Ed Carter]

PORT FROM THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

I UNDERSTAND MR. CARTER WAS COMING, BUT IS FLOODED IN, IS HE GOING TO BE ON ZOOM OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO READ HIS REPORT? HE SAID THAT HE WOULD MAKE HIMSELF AVAILABLE VIA PHONE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT THE REPORT IS IN YOUR PACKET.

OKAY.

DR.

DAILY, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO READ IT? OR DID YOU WANT ME TO READ IT? THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY WAS CONSUMED WITH WEATHER EVENT RESPONSE, MOBILIZING PLOWING, AND TREATING ROADS, REPLENISHING SUPPLIES, AND ADDRESS AND EQUIPMENT UPKEEP.

THERE WAS LITTLE ROUTINE MAINTENANCE WORK, COMPLEX STUFF SOUNDS A LOT LIKE OUR PUBLIC WORKS THIS LAST MONTH,

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THIS AND PARKS AND RECREATION MAINTENANCE THIS MONTH VIDOT IS PLANNING TO REPAIR SOUL SHOULDERS ON VARIOUS ROUTES, GRADES VARIOUS HARD NON-HARD SURFACE ROADS AND APPLY STONE WHERE NEEDED AND CLEAN OUT PIPE STUMPED STOPPED UP WITH STORMS. THIS WILL CERTAINLY BE INUNDATED WITH POTHOLE REPAIR REQUESTS AND MET WITH SUPERVISOR COLLARS AND COUNTY STAFF REGARDING SAFETY CONCERNS ON ROUTE THREE 40 SOUTH OF FRONT ROYAL TRAFFIC ENGINEERING.

WE'LL BE CONDUCTING SPEED STUDIES AND SAFETY AUDITS AT SEVERAL INTERSECTIONS ALONG THE ROUTE.

THEY WILL BE DISCUSSING POSSIBLE EXTENSION OF THE ROAD CLOSURE ON ROUTE SIX 24 HAPPY CREEK ROAD FOR PROJECT CONSTRUCTION THIS SUMMER WITH SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION.

AND THE SECOND SECONDARY SIX-YEAR PLAN BUDGET FUNDING HAS BEEN DETERMINED.

AND MR. CARTER WILL BE PRESENTING TO THE BOARD SOMETIME IN MARCH FOR COMMENTS BEFORE THE PROPOSED PUBLIC HEARING IN MAY.

SO WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT HE WOULD BECOME EITHER TO THE WORK SESSION NEXT WEEK OR THE 23RD, 2026, I GUESS IT IS.

OKAY.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THAT REPORT? YEAH, I HAD, UM, JUST ONE AS FAR AS WHEN MR. CARTER BREAKERS LAST TIME ABOUT THE HAPPY CREEK ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND OTHER SOME ISSUES REGARDING THE UTILITY MOVEMENTS, PERMITS, WHATEVER, BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO SOME CONCERNS WITH THE SCHOOL, BECAUSE I THINK YOU WERE ASKING FOR TWO ADDITIONAL WEEKS, JUST AS A BACKUP IN CASE THEY DIDN'T GET FINISHED IN TIME.

UM, HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION WITH THE SCHOOLS ON THAT AND WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE AS FAR AS ALLOWING THAT TO HAPPEN? SCHOOLS AND SCHOOL STAFF AND MR. CARTER'S STAFF HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY? I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE MADE A REQUEST YET, AND I BELIEVE THERE WILL BE A PRESENTATION TO THE SCHOOL BOARD LATER THIS MONTH.

CAUSE I THINK THEY WERE TRYING TO GET IT DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, AS FAR AS THE APPROVAL.

AND I GUESS MY CONCERN WOULD BE IF IT WAS DELAYED NEXT YEAR, THAT COULD IMPACT THE COSTS AS WELL.

YES, SIR.

AND THOSE SCHOOLS, STAFF IS AWARE OF THAT CONCERN RIGHT THERE.

AGAIN, I REALIZED IT'D BE AN INCONVENIENCE, BUT I THINK THE GOT TO LOOK AT THE FINISHED PRODUCT AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG BENEFIT FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT TRAVEL THAT ROAD.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, REPORT FROM THE TOWN OF FRONT ROW, MR. HICKS, HE WAS HERE.

HE STEPPED OUT, I BELIEVE MR. HITS.

OH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS DR.

BALLENGER.

SO I, I HAD REACHED OUT TO MR. HICKS SEVERAL TIME LAST WEEK TO GET HIS REPORT.

HE INDICATED HE WOULD BE SUBMITTING A BUDGET SUMMARY AND PRESENTATION, BUT HE HAS NEVER SUBMITTED SUCH TO ME.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS A REPORT FOR THE TOWN, THE BUDGET.

OKAY.

SO

[I. Reports – Board Members, Interim County Administrator, Interim County Attorney]

WE WILL MOVE ON TO BOARD REPORTS.

UM, MR. CARTER, UH, I GUESS ONE THING IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE OFFICE IS MORE OF A SCHOOL ISSUE OR NOT, BUT THAT THE BUS STOP AT APPLE MOUNTAIN ON THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL.

THAT'S KIND OF ONE BY THE WAYSIDE.

I BELIEVE THE LAND LANDOWNERS, UH, PULLED THAT AND THERE'S BEEN OTHER ARRANGEMENTS MADE FOR FOLKS TO MEET AT THE LINDEN PARK DOWN AT DISMAL HOLLOW.

IS THAT CORRECT AT THIS? AT THIS TIME, I KNOW THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS BEEN NOTIFIED AND THEY HAVE NO NOTIFIED PARENTS THAT THIS BUS STOP WILL BE CLOSING.

THE OLD BUS STOP WILL BE CLOSING AND THEY ARE MAKING OTHER ARRANGEMENTS.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THOSE ARRANGEMENTS ARE BECAUSE SOME OF THE STUDENTS HAD THE PARENTS HAD DIFFERENT IDEAS AS TO WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO.

OKAY.

SO IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.

YES.

OKAY.

AND THE ONLY OTHER THING TOO IS, UH, UH, NOVEMBER ELECTIONS, WE'LL BE HERE FOR, WE KNOW IT, THE FOURTH DISTRICT HAPPY CREEK DISTRICTS, UH, ARE UP FOR ELECTION IN NOVEMBER.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE REPUBLICAN WARREN COUNTY REPUBLICAN COMMITTEE ISSUED A CALL WHERE, UH, THE DEADLINE IS MARCH 25TH.

I BELIEVE FOR ANYBODY INTERESTED IN SEEKING THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION FOR EITHER DISTRICT, UH, THEY NEED TO SEND A LETTER OF INTENT

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AND A FEE.

I DO NOT KNOW WHAT, UH, THE WARREN COUNTY DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE PLANS ARE.

AND THEN IF ANYBODY WANTS TO RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT PROCESS IS BASICALLY, UH, THEY NEED 125 BALLOT VOTER SIGNATURES IN THAT RESPECTIVE DISTRICT.

AND I THINK THE DEADLINE IS SOMETIME IN EARLY JUNE AND THOSE PACKETS CAN BE PICKED UP AT THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE.

AND I THINK YOU CAN ALSO GO ONLINE.

SO, AND THEN THERE, AGAIN WITH THE REPUBLICAN, UH, NOMINATION PROCESS, IF THERE'S TWO OR MORE, UH, PEOPLE INTERESTED IN SEEKING THAT NOMINATION, I DO BELIEVE THEY'RE PLANNING ON HAVING A CANVAS, WHICH IS LIKE A MINI PRIMARY AND THAT WOULD BE HELD APRIL 23RD.

SO JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR ANYBODY WHO MAY BE INTERESTED.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU, MR. FOX.

NO, NOT AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, MR. MABE, THE ONLY THING THAT I'VE GOT IS, UM, TIM, YOU PUT A GOOD PROGRAM TOGETHER FOR THE FALLEN OFFICER AND STANLEY.

UM, THE BIGGEST THING THAT I BROUGHT OR HAD TO TAKEAWAY ON THAT CALL OR THAT, UH, GATHERING AND WATCHING THE PURSE GO BONG WAS THE FACT OF THE PURE SILENCE THAT IS THE QUIETEST I'VE EVER HEARD.

THIS TOWN.

PEOPLE DROVE BY.

THERE WAS NO SHOUTING, THERE WAS NO HORNS.

THERE WAS NOTHING BUT RESPECT FOR THE, FOR THE YOUNG MAN THAT WAS LAID TO REST.

UM, TIM, YOU DID A GOOD JOB AND THE ORGANIZATION TO PUT THAT TOGETHER, TOOK A LOT.

AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU PERSONALLY.

YEAH.

OH YEAH.

I KNOW YOU HAD HELP.

UH, AND UM, I WAS THERE AND THE PEOPLE THAT I KNEW WERE THERE AND IT WAS A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAN NOT.

I TRULY EXPECTED THAT IT WAS THE QUIETEST I'VE EVER HEARD.

SO WE RESPECT TO THE MAN THAT DESERVED IT.

THANK YOU, TIM.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU, MRS. OATS.

THIS IS READ ACROSS AMERICA WEEK AND AS A CHILD, I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT READING WAS MY WAY TO EXPLORE THE WORLD BECAUSE I CAME FROM A VERY, VERY POOR FAMILY AND READING WAS THE MOST ACTIVE THING THAT I DID PRETTY MUCH.

AND SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO BE INVOLVED IN THE READ ACROSS AMERICA PROGRAM, THROUGH THE LIBRARY, THROUGH YOUR OWN EFFORTS, I WOULD LIKE TO QUOTE DR.

SEUSS.

HE SEEMS TO HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF NOTORIETY THIS WEEK AND HIS TODAY IS HIS BIRTHDAY.

AND HE WROTE IN ONE OF HIS BOOKS, THE MORE THAT YOU READ, THE MORE THINGS YOU WILL KNOW, THE MORE THAT YOU LEARN, THE MORE PLACES YOU'LL GO.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE THAT I'D LIKE TO READ, THERE'S A SEPARATE ONE.

YOU'RE NEVER TOO OLD TO WACKY, TOO WILD TO PICK UP A BOOK AND READ TO A CHILD.

SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO READ TO A CHILD THIS WEEK.

IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY READ TO A CHILD BECAUSE CHILDREN WHO ARE READ TO PERFORM AT MUCH HIGHER LEVELS THAN CHILDREN WHO DON'T, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU, MS. .

UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY ON THIS DAY OF DR.

SEUSS'S BIRTH.

AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT NOTICED DR.

DALEY IS PAYING HOMAGE TO HIM VERY WELL.

AND WE THANK YOU FOR THAT.

IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE YOUR TIES AND, AND SO FORTH.

UM, I MET WITH, UH, V DOT LAST WEEK, UH, I THINK IT WAS WEDNESDAY AND, UH, MR. DR.

DALEY AND ERIN MITCHELL FROM THE SCHOOLS, UM, DEPUTY HOLZ BAUER WAS THERE.

MICHAEL COLE FELT FROM THE COUNTY AS WELL AS ED CARTER AND MATTHEW BOND FROM VEDA.

AND, UH, WE ACTUALLY MET IN THE PARKING LOT AT THE CAVERNS.

MY HOPE WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO WALK DOWN THREE 40, BUT EVERYBODY DECIDED IT WAS TOO UNSAFE TO DO THAT, WHICH WAS MY POINT OF HAVING THEM ALL.

THERE IS THE SAFETY CONCERN FROM SIX 19 TO, UM, PASS KOA AND THE MULTIPLE LEFT-HAND TURNS FOR COMMERCIAL ENTRANCES AND SO FORTH THERE.

AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS GET THE SPEED REDUCE THERE.

UM, I ASKED FOR A DESIGNATED LEFT TURN LANE TO ON TO SNAKE ROAD, UM, TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE SAFER RIGHT NOW IT'S FOUND THAT THAT'S NOT A DOABLE THING.

AND SO GOT THEM ALL

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TOGETHER.

AND I WANT TO THANK ROBBIE SALES.

WELL, HE DID A LOT OF RESEARCH FOR ME ON ACCIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

AND THERE'S AN AVERAGE OF 10 ACCIDENTS A YEAR.

AND IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS HAS BEEN ONE FATALITY IN THIS AREA.

SO I'M ACTIVELY WITH.TO SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH A REMEDY, AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY DOING A SPEED STUDY.

THEY'RE NOT SURE HOW THAT'S GOING TO ALL WORK OUT, BUT I DO WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT I AM AWARE THAT THREE 40 AS WELL AS MULTIPLE OTHER ROADS IN THE COUNTY ARE SAFETY ISSUES.

AND WE HAVE TO TACKLE THEM ONE AT A TIME AND DO WHAT WE CAN.

SO THAT ONE IS ONE WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON, ON, UM, MARCH MEN LAST NIGHT WITH SOME HEAVY WINDS THAT I ASSUME CAUSED WERE PROBABLY INSTRUMENTAL FIRE DEPARTMENTS HERE.

YOU'VE PROBABLY HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON TRANSFORM OR FIRE LAST NIGHT.

IT WAS ARKING AND CAUSED A LOT OF ISSUES IN THE BENTONVILLE AREA.

UM, THAT TRANSFORMER WAS AT THE SHANDO RIVER STATE PARK.

SO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE HAVING PROBLEMS ELECTRIC ON AND OFF LAST NIGHT, I THINK THAT WAS A MAJOR ISSUE THERE.

UM, I ALSO GOT A CALL YESTERDAY FROM LIEUTENANT WARREN WHO IS WITH THE, UM, USED TO BE DEPARTMENT OF GAME AND INLAND FISHERIES.

THEY'VE CHANGED OUR NAME TO DEPARTMENT OF WILDLIFE RESOURCES.

AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM, TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE PERMIT TO THAT WAS GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO ACCESS OUR PUBLIC BOAT LANDINGS ALONG SHAND OR RIVER, WHICH BASICALLY WAS GOING TO REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE EFFICIENT LICENSE, A BOATING LICENSE, UM, A MEMBERSHIP TO A RESOURCE CONSERVATION GROUP TO IN ORDER TO ENTER OR EXIT THE RIVERS.

SO IF YOU GOT IN, UM, SAY I'VE GOT IN AT MY PLACE AND WENT DOWN TO THE PUBLIC BOAT LANDING BELOW MY HOUSE, DECIDED I FORGOT SOMETHING AND GOT OUT WITH MY TWO, BUT THERE WAS, UM, GAME WARDEN THERE.

HE COULD GIVE ME A TICKET FOR NOT HAVING PERMIT THAT IT WAS, UM, SOMETHING I, I WAS NOT A FAN OF AS MUCH AS WAS A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL.

I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE CHARGED TO ENJOY THE RIVER.

SO, UM, I HAD ASKED FOR THEM TO COME TO OUR NEXT MEETING AND TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON THIS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ANYBODY SHOULD BE CAUGHT GETTING TICKETS BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST NOT AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

HE INFORMED ME AS OF YESTERDAY THAT OUR, UM, LEGISLATORS HAVE ASKED DWR TO GO BACK AND DO A STUDY AND NOT IMPLEMENT THIS UNTIL THEY'VE DONE A STUDY FOR FEASIBILITY.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND EVERYBODY START CALLING YOUR LEGISLATORS AND DELEGATES AND TELLING THEM THAT THIS IS A REALLY BAD IDEA AND THE POLICE SQUASH IT.

UM, I DON'T KNOW.

I'VE ASKED HIM TO GIVE ME A HEADS UP ONCE THEY'VE FINISHED THEIR STUDY AND WHERE THEY ARE.

UH, I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT, I MEAN, THIS MAN IS OVER SEVERAL COUNTIES, BUT I WILL KEEP ON TOP OF IT.

AND I DO ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAKE THOSE PHONE CALLS, EMAILS, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO THAT, BUT LET THEM THAT THIS IS JUST AN UNFAIR TAXATION ON US IS BASICALLY, UM, I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE MENTION OF, UM, THE RECENT LINE OF DUTY DEATH OF OFFICER WILDMAN.

AND THANK YOU, TIM, FOR, UM, FOR THE HOMAGE DOING, UM, THIS IS A VERY SENSITIVE SUBJECT TO MAKE AS MY FAMILY HAS GONE THROUGH THIS.

SO I KNOW HOW, HOW THIS FEELS TO HIS FAMILY.

AND I HAVE NO WORDS OF SYMPATHY FOR THEM, AND TIME DOES NOT MAKE IT ANY EASIER.

AND I ALSO WANT TO REMEMBER OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

UM, I AM A SISTER AND I'M A MOTHER OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND IT IS OFTEN SAID THAT IT IS A THANKLESS JOB, AND IT'S NOT ONLY IF WE MAKE IT A THANKLESS JOB AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO REACH OUT.

AND WHEN YOU SEE AN OFFICER, JUST THANK THEM FOR DOING THE JOB THEY DO.

THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T DO IT FOR THE PAY BECAUSE GOODNESS KNOWS THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PAY TO PUT YOUR LINE ON THE, ON, IN JEOPARDY EVERY DAY.

UM, SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO, IT'S SAD THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO REMEMBER THAT THESE GUYS, UM, THEY DO US A TREMENDOUS SERVICE AND THEY'RE NOT RECOGNIZED NEARLY ENOUGH FOR IT, AND THIS IS FAMILY TO THEM.

AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH A REALLY TOUGH TIME WITH THIS AS WELL.

SO I JUST WANT US ALL TO, TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND TO REMEMBER IT'S, IT'S NOT A THANKLESS JOB ONLY IF WE LET IT BE, THEN THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY.

DR.

DALEY, THANK YOU.

MA'AM

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AN UPDATE ON THE MS. KAY SPRINGS PROJECT.

THE BOARD, THE EDA BOARD HAS APPROVED TRANSFERRING THE PROP, THEIR PARTION OF THE PROPERTY TO THE COUNTY, SO THAT THEN WE WILL JUST HAVE THE COUNTY IN THE TOWN TO CONSOLIDATE THE PLATS AND SO FORTH.

AND MR. BOWMAN AND MR. HAM'S OFFICE IS WORKING TO COORDINATE THAT FOR US.

AND WE'LL BE TAKING THE NEXT STEPS LATER THIS MONTH, BUT THE FIRST STEP OF THE DA TRANSFER, THEY HAVE APPROVED THAT.

UH, MR. MICK, LIBERTY'S BEEN WORKING WITH THE AUDITOR AND THE AUDITOR WILL BE AVAILABLE NEXT WEEK AT THE WORK SESSION OR ON THE 16TH AT THE REGULAR MEETING.

UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD WOULD BE TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE THIS NEXT WEEK SO THAT YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BUDGET HAVING THOUGH THAT DOCUMENT AND THE PRESENTATION, UH, IF YOU'D PREFER TO MAKE, HAVE IT AT A REGULAR MEETING, WE CAN DO THAT.

AND WE CAN ALSO HAVE A REFERENCE TO IT OR SOMETHING.

A SUMMARY OF SOME NATURE PRESENTED AT THE REGULAR MEETING AFTER SO THAT YOU GET IT CIRCULATED TO THE PUBLIC.

HOWEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT COURTHOUSE.

SO ESSENTIALLY CLOSED TODAY IS CLOSED TODAY.

THERE WAS A SEWER LINE BACK UP ON ROYAL AVENUE AND MAIN STREET.

AND THAT BACKED UP INTO THE COURTHOUSE.

THIS WAS YESTERDAY, IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS MAINTENANCE.

PEOPLE WERE DOWN THERE, ALL HELPING GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.

AND THE CLEANING PEOPLE ARE THERE TODAY, TAKING ALL THAT, CLEANING ALL THAT UP AND GETTING IT OUT OF THERE.

SO WE'LL BE REOPENED AGAIN TOMORROW.

UM, ALSO IN THE COURTHOUSE, THEY HAVE, THE PUBLIC WORKS, HAS COMPLETED THE INSTALLATION OF THE AIR PURIFIERS SO THAT YOU CAN NOW, IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, GO DOWN THERE AND SEE THESE LITTLE PURIFIERS THAT ARE THERE.

IF YOU REMEMBER BACK IN THE FALL, WE ORDERED, I BELIEVE THERE'S SIX OF THEM TOTAL IN THE COURTHOUSE, AND YOU CAN SEE THEM.

CAUSE WE WERE THINKING ABOUT PERHAPS PUTTING ONE IN THIS ROOM AND A COUPLE OF OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, UM, COURTHOUSE, THE AUDITOR, THE OTHER THAN THAT, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE COVID AND THE VACCINES AND CONTINUING WITH THE WEATHER, SAME AS V DOT AND APPRECIATE ALL THE WORKS BY OUR PUBLIC, ALL THE WORK BY OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS AND RECREATION PEOPLE.

AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE THROUGH THE WORST OF THAT.

NOW.

THANK YOU, MR. HAM.

I HAVE NO REPORT AND WE WILL

[J. Approval of Minutes]

MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED FOR BOTH, UM, MEETINGS.

LET ME SEE WHAT THE DATES ARE.

HOLD ON FEBRUARY 10TH, 2021 IN FEBRUARY 16TH, 2021.

OKAY, MRS. SHIRAKI ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. CARTER, MR. FOX, MADAM CHAIR.

I MISS OATS.

MR. MAYB.

OKAY.

CONSENT AGENDA.

[K. Consent Agenda]

ARE THERE ANY ITEMS TO PULL FOR DISCUSSION HEARING NONE.

IS THERE EMOTION? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE.

WE ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, MRS. SHAHRAKI ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. MABE, MISS OATS.

MADAM CHAIR, MR. FOX, MR. CARTER, HI AUTHORIZATION

[L. Authorization to Submit Application to the 2020 Staffing for Adequate Fire and Emergency Response (SAFER) Grant Program – Chief James Bonzano]

TO SUBMIT APPLICATION TO THE 2020 STAFFING FOR ADEQUATE FIRE AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE.

SAY FOR GRANT PROGRAM, CHIEF MANZANO.

GOOD MORNING CHAIR

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TO BE BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING, TO IDENTIFY WAYS TO MEET OUR STAFFING NEEDS WHILE FINDING WAYS TO REDUCE THE COST IMPACTS TO THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AS DISCUSSED AT LAST MONDAY'S WORK SESSION, WE HAVE RECEIVED STAFFING REQUESTS FROM THREE OF OUR VOLUNTEER ENTITIES OR STATIONS.

WE CONVENE A SPECIAL MEDIA IN THE FIRE CHIEFS ADVISORY COMMITTEE THIS PAST TUESDAY, WHICH CONSISTED OF A LEADERSHIP REPRESENTATION FROM EACH OF OUR VOLUNTEER STATIONS, OUR FIRE ADMINISTRATION, OUR CAREER STAFF CONTINGENT AND SUPERVISOR COLORS AFTER MUCH DISCUSSION THE COMMITTEE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND TO THIS BOARD THAT WE APPLY FOR OPTION THREE OR 18 STAFF POSITIONS.

THE 18 POSITIONS WOULD BE UTILIZED TO BEGIN PROVIDING STAFFING 24 SEVEN THREE 65 STAFFING TO THE FORT SMITH AND SHENANDOAH SHORE STATIONS WITH TWO PEOPLE A DAY.

AND TO INCREASE THE STAFFING AT THE FRONT ROYAL STATION WITH AN ADDITIONAL TWO PEOPLE TODAY, THE GRANT WOULD COVER THREE YEARS OF ENTRY-LEVEL SALARY AND BENEFITS FOR THESE 18 POSITIONS.

UNFUNDED COST FOR THE THREE-YEAR PERIOD IS ESTIMATED AT 250, $2,000.

IF AWARDED THE DEPARTMENT WOULD SEEK THE BOARD'S APPROVAL TO ACCEPT THE GRANT AND ALLOCATION OF THESE UNFUNDED FUNDS, OUR COSTS UPON COMPLETION OF THE GRANT COST TO SUSTAIN THESE POSITIONS IS ESTIMATED AT $1.5 MILLION PER YEAR.

WITH THAT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU FROM THE BOARD.

SO I, I JUST WANTED A CLARIFICATION.

SO THE, THESE POSITIONS WOULD, AND I BELIEVE IN OUR FIRM, OUR WORK SESSION WOULD OFFSET BE OFFSET BY OVERTIME THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE.

SO THEY WOULD BE OFFSET IN SOME REGARD, DO WE KNOW WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE? SO, NO, MA'AM NOT EXACTLY.

SO LET ME SPEAK TO THAT.

SO THESE POSITIONS SPECIFICALLY WOULD BE TO STAFF, THE TWO STATIONS THAT RIGHT NOW HAVE NO CAREER STAFFING, UH, MORT SMITH AND, UH, UH, AND SHADOWS SHORES, EXCUSE ME.

AND THEN TO UP STAFF AT FIRE STATION ONE OR THE FRONT ROYAL STATION.

RIGHT? SO WHILE, YOU KNOW, THE FTE COUNT IS AN ADDITION, BUT IT RIGHT NOW THERE'S, IT'S ABSENT THOSE TWO FAR HOUSES IN SUBSYSTEM.

NO, MA'AM, THAT WOULD NOT, NOT, IT WOULDN'T DIRECTLY IMPACT.

IT WOULD JUST GIVE US ADDITIONAL STAFFING.

OKAY.

SO, WELL, I ACTUALLY MADE A PHONE CALL TO NORTH WARREN YESTERDAY FOR THEIR INQUIRE ABOUT THEIR CELEBRATION ROOM AND THE YOUNG MAN WHO ANSWERED, INFORMED ME THAT HE WAS ONLY THERE FOR THE DAY.

SO I CAN ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH STAFF IN THESE FIRE STATIONS BECAUSE HE, YOU KNOW, HE SAID, I CAN'T GET YOU YOUR ANSWER.

I'M ONLY HERE FOR THE DAY, BUT I'LL GET SOMEBODY TO CALL YOU BACK.

THERE IS.

AND WE SPOKE TO, UH, LAST MONDAY EVENING, UM, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, ANY OPPORTUNITIES OR DIALOGUE AS IT RELATES TO THIS, I'LL BE GLAD TO, AND WE WANT TO BE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT.

THAT'S WHY WE'VE BUILT IN THE SOFT COST IS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE SAFER GRANT IS 100% FUNDING, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S COMPLETELY TRUE IN THAT THERE'S ASSOCIATED COST WITH EACH MEMBER.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE VERY HERE TODAY.

AND I'M A TRUSTING CHIEF THAT YOU ARE FIGURING OUT HOW TO MANAGE THE 1.5 MILLION AT THE FOURTH YEAR.

JERRY'S GET ME STRAIGHT.

YES.

MA'AM TO GO BACK TO YOUR QUESTION REGARDING THE FLOATERS MA'AM THIS REQUEST IS 18 AND THERE MIGHT BE AN AWARD SOMETHING IN BETWEEN THAT.

AND ONE OF THE THOUGHTS WAS THAT WE WOULD MIGHT SIGN, WE MIGHT GET PERHAPS 15, WHICH WOULD BE SIX AND SIX AND THREE.

AND WE ASSIGN ALL OF THOSE TWO STATIONS, BUT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE SOME OF OUR OTHER PERSONNEL BETWEEN STATIONS AS FLOATERS AT SOME POINT IN THAT, BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE FOUR, WE'D HAVE THREE AT THE THIRD STATION.

OKAY.

SO THAT MIGHT, THAT'S WHERE WE WERE TALKING.

AND SO THAT'S POTENTIAL, BUT UNTIL WE HAVE AN AWARD, WE DON'T KNOW HOW THAT MIGHT WORK.

SO EVEN IF ASK FOR THE NUMBER YOU'RE, YOU'RE REQUESTING, YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT THEY MAY GIVE US SOMETHING LESS HISTORICALLY.

NO, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T COME BACK AND AMEND.

UM, SO DR.

ELLIE'S, POINT'S A GOOD ONE AND I LOVE THE STRATEGY BECAUSE IT ALLOWS US A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY.

RIGHT? SO LET ME, LET ME SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN A LITTLE MORE CLARITY.

SO, UH, THE OTHER THING IT ALLOWS US TO SAY, HYPOTHETICALLY, WE WERE TO, YOU WERE TO APPROVE THE 15 POSITIONS.

THE THREE POSITIONS ALLOWS US A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THAT IT ALLOWS US TO POTENTIALLY CREATE SOME ADDITIONAL

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ALS STAFFING WITHIN THAT, AND ALLOW US A LITTLE MORE, UM, PRECISION TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CITIZEN BASE, MEANING ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT CALLS.

UM, NOW WE'LL HAVE TO DETERMINE A LITTLE BETTER FIDELITY IN REGARDS TO HOW TO DO THAT, BUT AT A GLANCE, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT ALLOWS US TO DO JUST THAT.

AND TO YOUR POINT EARLIER, YOUR QUESTION EARLIER, IT WILL, YOU KNOW, INCREASE OUR STAFFING, HENCE HOPEFULLY DRIVE IN OUR OVERTIME COSTS DOWN.

YES, MA'AM THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THAT.

WELL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR, UM, THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND AT SOME POINT I THINK A GOOD EDUCATIONAL, UH, REVIEW OF THE STAFFING TO THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH.

AND THAT AT TIMES, BASICALLY YOU'RE WORKING WITH A TWO MAIN CREW ALL THE TIME.

NOW, HOPEFULLY AT TIMES YOU'RE WORKING WITH ONE MAIN CREW, WHICH MEANS IF I HAVE RESCUE CALL IN MY AREA AND THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON THERE AND ALL THE OTHER COMPANIES AROUND ON CALLS, THAT ONE PERSON CAN COME TO MY HOUSE.

BUT IF IT'S A TWO OR THREE PERSON RESCUE ATTEMPT, HE'S THERE CALMING ME DOWN UNTIL THE TROOPS CAN LIGHTEN UP SOMEWHERE AND HELP HIM.

AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE FUNCTIONING OFF OF.

YES, MA'AM THANK YOU.

AND LET ME SEE IF I CAN BUILD UPON THEM AS COLORS.

UM, I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR, YOU KNOW, JUST WE'RE A BARE BONES AND I'LL BE VERY CANDID.

I COME FROM A JURISDICTION THAT IS VERY WEALTHY, RELATIVELY SPEAKING, AS FAR AS RESOURCES AND IN, IN, AND WHILE I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT MY ASPIRATION BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR IMPROVEMENT.

SO YOUR POINT ABOUT SAFETY AND ACCOUNTABILITY ON A FIRE GROUND EMERGENCY RESPONSE IS IMPERATIVE.

AND RIGHT NOW I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WHAT YOU SEE THAT THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THIS WERE INSTITUTION BOTH CAREER AND VOLUNTEER DO IS GREAT WORK, GIVING VERY LIMITED RESOURCES, ESPECIALLY IN THE FTE WORLD.

AND FRANKLY, IN ALL DUE RESPECT, IT'S FRACK, IT'S UNSAFE AND THEY GET IT DONE SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO.

SO YOUR POINT'S WELL TAKEN.

YES, MA'AM.

SO FTE COUNTS IN BOTH THE, UH, THE UNSTAFFED STATIONS, THE ON STAFF CAREER STATIONS IS ONE PIECE OF THIS, BUT THE INCREASE, THE OVERALL STAFF IS ABSOLUTELY AN ASPIRATION OF MINE.

YES.

MA'AM CHIEF, WOULD YOU SPEAK TO TWO IN TWO OUT? SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT.

UM, YES, SIR.

I WILL, UH, THE, THE WHOLE IDEA, LH CONCEPT, IF YOU'VE HEARD OF IT, IT MEANS TO IMMEDIATE, TO DEATH IN LIFE HAZARD.

UM, AND, AND IN ESSENCE THAT WE HAVE STANDARDS 17, 10, AND 1720, BASICALLY OUR BIBLE, IF YOU WILL.

AND THEY SPEAK TO WHEN YOU SHOULD BE IN WHAT THEY CALL AN OFFENSIVE POSTURE VERSUS A DEFENSIVE POSTURE IN AN OPERATION.

UM, AND I WILL SAY THIS, YOU KNOW, AND I SAY THIS IN JURY RESPECT, THAT'S READILY VIOLATED IN THIS INSTITUTION, IN OTHER INSTITUTIONS, ALL OUR ENTITIES, SIMPLY OF THE NECESSITY, PEOPLE ARE GOING IN AND SEARCHING OCCUPANTS WITHOUT BACKUP, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO THEIR JOB AND THEY WANT TO DO IT WELL.

AND THEY WANT TO SAY THE CONSTITUENTS THAT WE SERVE AND GOD BLESS THEM FOR DOING SO THAT SAID IN THE PERFECT WORLD, YOU WANT TWO PEOPLE IN OPERATING IN AN OFFENSIVE POSTURE, WHICH TOO AVAILABLE TO GO TO WORK IS SIMPLY NOT THE CASE HERE TODAY BECAUSE OF A LOT OF REASONS, STAFFING BEING PREMIER PREMIER IN THAT SECOND OF THAT, AND SIMPLY IN RESPONSE TIME AND TRAVEL TIMES TO DISTANCE AND WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE VARIABLES WE'RE DEALING WITH TODAY.

HENCE THE REASON WE'RE ASKING FOR INCREASED STAFFING.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF AND THE BOARD? OKAY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU ALL AGAIN.

DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM BY ITEM CHAIR? YES, SIR.

UH, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUTHORIZED THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES TO ADMIT ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY OF WARREN, AN APPLICATION TO FAMOUS F F Y 2020 STAFFING FOR ADEQUATE FIRE AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE, UH, SAFER GRANT PROGRAM SEEKING FUNDING FOR 18 NEW FIRE.

UH, EXCUSE ME, 18 NEW FULL-TIME FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS.

IS THERE A SECOND? MRS. SHIRAKI WILL YOU DO A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. CARTER, MR. FOX, MADAM CHAIR.

I MISS OATS.

HI, MR. MABE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

AT THIS TIME.

[M. Closed Session – Sections 2.2-3711(A)(7) and (A)(8) of the Virginia Freedom of Information Act for Consultation with Legal Counsel Pertaining to Actual or Probable Litigation and Consultation with Legal Counsel for the Provision of Legal Advice re: Economic Development Authority Matters]

UM, WE WE'RE AT THE CLOSED SESSION.

UM, MR. HAM, DO YOU HAVE WHAT'S YOUR YOU'VE

[01:25:01]

GOT IT.

OKAY.

MS. I MOVED THE BOARD ENTER INTO A CLOSED MEETING UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION TWO DOT TWO DASH THREE SEVEN ONE ONE EIGHT SEVEN AND EIGHT OF THE VIRGINIA, UH, FREE, UH, FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT FOR CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL PERTAINING TO ACTUAL OR PROBABLE LITIGATION AND THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL AND THE COUNTY OF WARREN, VIRGINIA, THE EDA, THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL, THE EDA VERSUS JENNIFER MACDONALD AT ALL THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL VERSUS THE EDA AT ALL, AND OTHER POTENTIAL CLAIMS AND LITIGATION RELATING TO OTHER POSSIBLE LIABILITIES OF THE EDA AND THE RECOVERY OF EDA FUNDS AND ASSETS, AND A LEGAL CLAIM REGARDING THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES.

ALL THOSE MRS. ROCKING ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. MABE, MISS OATS.

MADAM CHAIR, MR. FOX, MR. CARTER.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

WE WILL BE IN CLOSED SESSION FOR APPROXIMATELY AN HOUR.

YOU WOULD THINK, OR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BE HERE WHEN WE COME OUT, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD CERTIFIES TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE WITH, UH, ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS, LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER SECTIONS TWO DOT TWO DASH THREE SEVEN ONE ONE EIGHT, SEVEN AND EIGHT OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSE MEETING WAS CONVENED WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING BY THE PUBLIC BODY.

SECOND, MRS. SHIRAKI ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. CARTER, MR. FOX.

HI, MADAM CHAIR.

I MISS OATS.

HI, MR. MABE.

OKAY.

OR IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS TO SPEAK UP TODAY? HEARING NONE.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN AND MR. FOX WILL SECOND THAT THEN ROLL CALL MR. ROCKY.

MR. MABE, MISS VOTES.

AYE.

MADAM CHAIR.

AYE.

MR. FOX, MR. CARTER.

OKAY.

MEETING ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR STICKING AROUND.