[A. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America]
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BUT IF WE COULD HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE, PLEASE, AND THEN WE'LL GET THE MEETING STARTED.
[B. Adoption of Agenda – Additions or Deletions]
IF I CAN HAVE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED MR. HATTEN, MADAM CHAIRPERSON, IF SOMEONE WOULD BE, IS THIS WORKING? I CAN CERTAINLY YELL.UH, WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGE TO SECTION OH, ADDING TO THE END AND THE PROTECTION OF PRIVACY AND PERSONAL MATTERS.
NOT RELATED TO PUBLIC BUSINESS.
UNDER CODE OF VIRGINIA, SECTION 2.2 37 11 A FOUR.
DO I HAVE A SECOND ROLL CALL, MR. ROCKY, MR. FOX, MR. MABE, MADAM CHAIR, MISS OATS, MR. CARTER.
[C. Adoption of Resolutions re: Special Recognition of Captain Wayne D. Dodson and Captain Richard M. Fletcher]
AT THIS TIME WE HAVE SOME HONOREES IN OUR PRESENCE TO BE HONORED FOR ON THEIR RETIREMENT.MRS. SHIRAKI MRS. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND COUNTY STAFF.
TONIGHT, WE STAND BEFORE YOU TO HONOR, UH, CAPTAIN WAYNE DOTSON AND CAPTAIN RICHARD FLETCHER, THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES UPON ANNOUNCING THEIR RETIREMENT EFFECTIVE APRIL ONE, 2021 FOR OVER 20 YEARS, THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS HAVE SERVED THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES OF OUR FIRE AND RESCUE SYSTEM, BOTH INSTRUMENTAL IN DEVELOPING AND ORGANIZING OUR FIRE AND RESCUE SYSTEM.
UH, BOTH OF WHICH WERE EARLY MEMBERS OF OUR CAREER ORGANIZATION, UM, AND PERSONALLY, UM, HAVE EFFECTED MY CAREER AND BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN MY CAREER AS WELL AS IF YOU CAN LOOK BEHIND US, UH, THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF OUR ORGANIZATION THAT HAVE TURNED OUT TONIGHT TO SUPPORT THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS.
FIRST, WE'D LIKE TO CALL FIRST, WE'D LIKE TO CALL CAPTAIN WAYNE DOTSON.
THIS IS A RESOLUTION OF THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HONORING WAYNE D. DODSON FIRE AND RESCUE CAPTAIN.
WHEREAS WAYNE D. DOTSON WAS HIRED AS ONE OF THE FIRST FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS OF THE WARREN COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES ON OCTOBER 1ST, 1998.
AND WHEREAS WAYNE D. DOTSON SERVED IN THE POSITION OF TRAINING OFFICER AND WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TRAINING AND EDUCATION OF OUR COMMUNITY'S CAREER AND VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS AND FUTURE LEADERS OF OUR ORGANIZATION.
AND WHEREAS WAYNE D. DODSON SERVED AT THE RANK OF CAPTAIN AND FOSTERED AN ENVIRONMENT THAT SUPPORTED THE DEPARTMENTAL SLOGO SLOGAN OF ONE DEPARTMENT, ONE MISSION, WHICH EXEMPLIFIES THE DEPARTMENT'S MISSION STATEMENT OF TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AS ONE SINGLE DEPARTMENT WITH A COMMON MISSION TO DELIVER THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF SERVICES AND PERFORM AT OUR BEST TO THOSE IN NEED AT THEIR WORST.
AND WHEREAS WAYNE D. DODSON HAS ANNOUNCED HIS RETIREMENT AS CAPTAIN OF THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES EFFECTIVE APRIL 1ST, 2021.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS EXPRESSES ITS SINCERE APPRECIATION TO WAYNE D DATSUN FOR THE OUTSTANDING LEADERSHIP AND SERVICE, WHICH HE HAS UNSELFISHLY GIVEN ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF WARREN COUNTY FOR THE PAST 22 YEARS AND SIX MONTHS.
AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HOLDS WAYNE D. DODSON IN THE HIGHEST ESTEEM AS AN HONORABLE MEMBER OF THE WARREN COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES WHO HAS REPEATEDLY
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DEMONSTRATED HIS COMMITMENT TO THE CITIZENS OF WARREN COUNTY.BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES EXTEND TO WAYNE D. DODSON, THEIR DEEP, PERSONAL APPRECIATION, AND SINCERE GRATITUDE FOR HIS DEDICATED EFFORTS ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL ITS CITIZENS.
AND BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED THAT THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES AFFIRM THAT WAYNE D. DODSON IS WORTHY OF RECEIVING THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES, HIGHEST AWARD AND HEREBY CONFER THE DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARD UPON CAPTAIN DODSON.
THIS IS CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
NEXT WE'D LIKE TO CALL CAPTAIN RICHARD FLETCHER, A RESOLUTION OF THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HONORING RICHARD M. FLETCHER, FIRE AND RESCUE CAPTAIN.
WHEREAS RICHARD M. FLETCHER WAS HIRED AS ONE OF THE FIRST FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS OF THE WARREN COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES ON OCTOBER 10TH, 2000.
AND WHEREAS RICHARD M. FLETCHER THROUGH BOTH HIS CHARACTER AND PERFORMANCE HAS SIGNIFICANTLY CONTRIBUTED TO THE ADVANCEMENT OF THE FIRE AND RESCUE PROTECTION OF WARREN COUNTY.
AND WHEREAS RICHARD M. FLETCHER SERVED AT THE RANK OF CAPTAIN AND FOSTERED AN ENVIRONMENT THAT SUPPORTED THE DEPARTMENTAL SLOGAN OF ONE DEPARTMENT, ONE MISSION, WHICH EXEMPLIFIES THE DEPARTMENT'S MISSION STATEMENT OF TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AS ONE SINGLE DEPARTMENT WITH A COMMON MISSION TO DELIVER THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF SERVICES AND PERFORM AT OUR BEST TO THOSE IN NEED AT THEIR WORST.
AND WHEREAS RICHARD M. FLETCHER HAS ANNOUNCED HIS RETIREMENT AS CAPTAIN OF THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES EFFECTIVE APRIL 1ST, 2021.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS EXPRESSES ITS SINCERE APPRECIATION TO RICHARD M. FLETCHER FOR THE OUTSTANDING LEADERSHIP AND SERVICE, WHICH HE HAS UNSELFISHLY GIVEN ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF WARREN COUNTY FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS AND SIX MONTHS.
AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HOLDS RICHARD M. FLETCHER IN THE HIGHEST ESTEEM AS AN HONORABLE MEMBER OF THE WARREN COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES WHO HAS REPEATEDLY DEMONSTRATED HIS COMMITMENT TO THE CITIZENS OF WARREN COUNTY AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES EXTEND TO RICHARD AND FLETCHER THEIR DEEP, PERSONAL APPRECIATION AND SINCERE GRATITUDE FOR HIS DEDICATED EFFORTS ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL ITS CITIZENS.
AND BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED THAT THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES AFFIRM THAT RICHARD M. FLETCHER IS WORTHY OF RECEIVING THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES, HIGHEST AWARD AND HEREBY CONFER, THE DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARD UPON CAPTAIN FLETCHER
THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL YOU GUYS ARE HERE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, FOR THE FIRE SERVICE FOR ALL YOU DO.
AND WE NEVER WANT TO FORGET THE FAMILIES AND THE WIVES BECAUSE THEY'RE DEDICATED TO OUR SERVICE DESK AS WELL BY LETTING YOU DO YOUR JOB.
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OKAY.UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTIONS? SECOND, SECOND, ALL THOSE MRS. SHIRAKI DO ROLL CALL PLEASE.
[D. Public Comment Period (60 Minute Time Limit)]
THIS TIME.THIS IS A 60 MINUTE PERIOD TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO GIVE INPUT ON ITEMS WHICH ARE ON THIS AGENDA, BUT NOT THE SUBJECT OF A PUBLIC HEARING.
OUR PUBLIC SPEAKING CONDUCT CODE.
ALL COMMENTS WILL BE, WILL BE DIRECTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND NOT THE AUDIENCE BE CONSIDERED OF YOUR FELLOW SPEAKERS.
THERE SHOULD BE NO APPLAUSE, BOOING OR OTHER AUDIBLE DISRUPTION TO THE PROCEEDINGS THROUGH A SHOW OF HANDS.
THE CHAIRMAN MAY ASK FOR A SHOW OF SUPPORT FOR COMMENTS, MAY BEST SPEAKERS, PLACARDS POSTERS, AND OTHER MEANS OF VISUAL DISPLAY OF COMMENTS WILL NOT BE PERMITTED IN THE BOARD MEETING ROOM.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE INFORMATION OR MATERIALS USED AS PART OF A FACTUAL PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD.
THE BOARD WILL NOT TOLERATE PERSONAL ATTACKS ON ANY OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROCEEDINGS.
I THINK MINE IS ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THE GUIDELINES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING MAY BE ASKED TO LEAVE BY THE CHAIRMAN.
MRS. SHAHRAKI DID WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? YES.
MADAM CHAIR FIRST UP IS TINY TANG.
UH, USA IS IN LIVING 5S CANTEEN.
I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD FOR INTRODUCING A RESOLUTION ON FROST ORGAN HARVESTING IN CHINA.
CURRENTLY WE CANNOT STOP THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY CCP FROM BECOMING FROM THIS CRIME, BUT WE CAN PREVENT KANTAR RESIDENTS FROM BECOMING THE UNWEIGHTING COMPOSERS TO THE MURDER OF INNOCENT PEOPLE.
THE PRACTICE OF NON CONSENSUAL ORGAN HARVESTING IN CHINA HAS RECEIVED ALMOST NO COVERAGE IN THE US MEDIA.
AS A RESULT, WE FIND THAT MANY RESIDENTS HERE IN WARREN CANTEEN HAVE NEVER HAD OFF OF THIS ISSUE.
EVEN LESS KNOWN IS THE FACT THAT ORGAN HARVESTING IS ONE OF THE MOST HANDLERS METHODS.
THE CCP IT USES IT'S MASSIVE AND THERE'S STILL ONGOING RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION, WHICH PRIMARILY TARGETS FOLLOWING GONG PRACTITIONERS.
FALUN GONG IS A NATION SPIRITUAL AND THE MEDITATION PRACTICE PRIOR TO 1999, A CHINESE GOVERNMENT SERVI FUND THAT ALMOST 100 MILLION PEOPLE HAD TO PICK IT UP.
THIS PRACTICE FOR EFFECTIVE HEALTH AND THE MORAL BENEFITS.
HOWEVER, EXACTLY BECAUSE OF FOLLOWING GOALS, IMMENSELY POPULARITY, THE JEALOUSY AND THE PARANOID HEAD OF CCP LUNCHES THAT BRUTAL PROSECUTION OF FALLING GONG IN JULY, 1999, A NUMBER OF SURVIVORS OF THE PERSECUTION FLED CHINA AND THE LIVER HERE IN VIRGINIA.
NOW THEIR STORIES ARE HEART WRENCHING.
SOME OF THEM WERE SUBJECT TO MEDICAL TESTS, WHICH WERE OF THE SAME TYPE USED TO DETERMINE ORGAN COME PACK COMPATIBILITY.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY WERE TREATED AS PETITION ORGAN DONORS.
ONCE AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF 100 LOCAL RESIDENTS WHO SIGNED THE PETITION TO SAY, PROD THIS RESOLUTION, I THANK WARREN CANTEEN FOR TAKING THIS STEP TO SAVE LIVES AND TO SUPPORT HUMAN RIGHTS.
ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP WITH SHRUGGY? AH, YES.
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GOOD EVENING.USAA CITIZEN ORIGINALLY CAME FROM SOUTH KOREA LIVING IN FAIRFAX COUNTY.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR INTRODUCING A RESOLUTION ADDRESSING FIRST ORGAN HARVESTING IN CHINA.
I GUESS THE FOLLOWING I'M PRACTITIONERS.
I HAVE BEEN PRACTICING FOLLOWING THEM FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
THIS MEDITATION PRACTICE OF TRUTHFULNESS, COMPASSION AND TOLERANCE HAS HELPED ME GET THROUGH TOUGH TIMES IN LIFE, BUT IN CHINA, FALLING ON PRACTITIONERS THAT HAVE BEEN UNJUSTLY TORTURED AND IMPRISONED FOR THE PAST 21 YEARS.
NOW, THEY ARE BEING EXECUTED FOR THEIR ORGANS IN WHAT HAS BECOME A MASSIVE NEW INDUSTRY.
THE FORCED ORGAN HARVESTING WAS AT FIRST A REPORTED IN 2006 AND CONTINUES TO TODAY.
THEY'RE TRYING TO COME IN AS A PARTY HAS BEEN ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH THE HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS AND TRYINA BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN EXTENSIVE INFLUENCE CAMPAIGN RIGHT HERE IN THE U S THEY TARGET OUR POLICYMAKERS AND OUR BUSINESS WITH A BILL MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF PAID AD IN ALMOST ALL THE MAJOR NEWSPAPERS ABOUT BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES IN CHINA DIGEST.
DON'T TELL US ABOUT THE FIRST LABOR CAMPS THAT ARE USED TO PRODUCE PRODUCTS MADE IN CHINA.
THEY TARGET OUR COLLEGES AND THE UNIVERSITIES BY GIVING THEM MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO OPEN CONFUCIUS INSTITUTES, TO SUPPOSEDLY ASHTRAY THE STUDENTS ABOUT TRYING THIS CULTURE.
THEY JUST DON'T TELL US THAT THEY ARE DESIGNED TO INFLUENCE OUR STUDENTS WILL WITH A COMMUNIST IDEOLOGY.
AND NOW THEY ARE TARGETING THE MOST VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITIES BY TELLING THEM THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT MONTHS OR YEARS FOR AN ORGAN TRANSPLANT.
THEY JUST DON'T TELL US WHERE THE ORGANS ARE COMING FROM.
I WANT TO THANK SUPERVISORS FOR INTRODUCING THE RESOLUTION.
IT IS BOTH TIMELY AND THE NECESSARY FOR EDUCATING THE COMMUNITIES ABOUT THE POTENTIAL RISKS OF TRAVELING TO CHINA FOR AN ORGAN TRANSPLANT.
WITH THIS RESOLUTION, WE SAVE INNOCENT LIVES IN CHINA AND THE, WE SAVE OUR OCCASIONS.
ANYONE ELSE? MRS. ROCKEY? UH, YES.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO HANG THERE? I GOT STUCK ON MY HEARING AID, TIM RADIGAN SIX ZERO SEVEN NINE STONEWALL JACKSON HIGHWAY FRONT ROYAL.
I'M ALSO HERE TODAY AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE WARREN COUNTY IN FRONT ROYAL FACT, THE BLUE ORGANIZATION.
I'M A FELLOW ADMINISTRATOR, MS. CANEY DEAN.
AND WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT HOUSE RESOLUTION 1280, OTHERWISE INFAMOUSLY KNOWN AS THE GEORGE FLOYD FAIR POLICING ACT.
UM, 2021, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK JUST FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES, ABOUT ONE ASPECT OF THAT HORRENDOUS HOUSE RESOLUTION.
AND THAT IS QUALIFYING IMMUNITY UNDER THIS RESOLUTION.
IF SIGNED NOW PASSED BY THE SENATE AND SIGNED BY THE PRESIDENT INTO LAW, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICERS, OUR POLICE OFFICERS WILL LOSE ONE.
IT'S CALLED QUALIFYING IMMUNITY.
NOW WHAT THIS BASICALLY MEANS IS THAT ANY OFFICER OUT THERE AND THE PERFORMANCE OF HIS DUTY WHILE APPREHENDING A SUSPECT, OR WHENEVER THE CASE IS PULLING SOMEONE OVER FOR A TRAFFIC VIOLATION, WHENEVER CAN TURN AROUND AT ANY POINT AND CLAIM THAT HE WAS RACIALLY DISCRIMINATED AGAINST RACIALLY PROFILED OR HAD HIS CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATED IN SOME WAY, THUS OPENING UP THAT OFFICER TO A FRIVOLOUS LAWSUIT, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, THEY GET UP EVERY MORNING AND THEY PUT ON THE UNIFORM.
AND THE LAST THING THEY NEED TO KNOW WHEN THEY ARE APPREHENDING THREE DRUG SUSPECTS THAT ARE CARRYING AN UNTOLD AMOUNT OF FENTANYL LIKE THIS PAST WEEKEND IS IF I DO MY JOB, ARE THESE GUYS GOING TO TURN AROUND AND SUE ME? THAT'S THE LAST THING THAT SHOULDN'T BE ON A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER'S MIND.
SO WHAT I, WHAT WE ARE ASKING, UM,
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NEW WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THAT YOU SEND A RESOLUTION TO THE UNITED STATES SENATE TO THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE HONORABLE MARK WARNER ON NOODLE BOWL, TIM KAINE, AND OUR ESTEEMED VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS, WHO WAS ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE.AND IS THE TIME RIGHT HERE WHEN YOU ASKED THAT THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISOR SEND THEM A RESOLUTION STANDING FIRMLY AGAINST THE ENTIRETY OF HOUSE RESOLUTION 1280, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE CAN, HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT, UH, GEORGE FLOYD'S FAIR POLICING ACT ON 2021.
AND JUST FOR GENERAL INFORMATION, THAT SAME GEORGE FLOYD THAT HELD A KNIFE TO A PREGNANT WOMAN'S BELLY WHILE HIS COHORTS RAM SACK AND ROBBED HER RANSACKED, OUR HOUSE OR HER APARTMENT, AND THEN PROCEEDED TO ROB HER.
THIS IS THE ESTEEMED HERO THAT THIS MEAL IS NAMED AFTER.
AND IT'S ALSO QUESTIONABLE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT HE DIED OF STRANGULATION, WHICH SOUNDS KIND OF ODD BECAUSE THE JUDGE NORMALLY TAKES, YOU KNOW, A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME FOR SOMEONE TO DIE THAN EIGHT FULL MINUTES TO DIVE STRANGULATION THEN TO PRETTY WELL KNOWN FACT THAT HE HAD ENOUGH FENTANYL IN HIS SYSTEM TO KILL HIMSELF SEVERAL TIMES OVER.
SO WE ARE ASKING THAT THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TAKE A FIRM STAND ON THIS.
OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BATTLE THE VERY LAW MAKERS IN ORDER TO DO THEIR JOB.
AND THEY CERTAINLY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO, AND IT WILL HAPPEN HAVE TO INVEST IN ADDITIONAL INSURANCE JUST TO DO THAT JOB.
AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
WE ARE GOING TO LOSE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS BY THE DOZENS.
WE CAN'T ALLOW THIS 'CAUSE I, I HATE CUTTING PEOPLE OFF, BUT YOU HAVE GONE OVER A YEAR, THREE MINUTES.
AND AS MUCH AS I HATE THAT WE'RE FIVE MINUTES AWAY FROM PUBLIC HEARING.
I THINK I DO BELIEVE I HAVE MADE MY POINT AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
AND PLEASE CONSIDER DOING THAT.
I'LL EVEN HELP DRY THE RESOLUTION IF YOU WANT ME TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
WELL, WHEN WE HAVE A LOT OF SPEAKERS AND A TIME CRUNCH, IF, IF WE DON'T, I I'VE BEEN KNOWN TO LET PEOPLE GO OVER, BUT TONIGHT I HAVE TO KEEP IT STRICT NEXT MAN, MICHAEL SHAWN WILLIAMS. AND THIS ONE WILL PROBABLY TAKE US IF WE'VE ONLY GOT ONE MORE, I'LL TRY TO SQUEEZE THAT IN AND THEN WE'LL GET THE PUBLIC HEARING STARTED AFTER THAT.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL SHAUN WILLIAMS, AND I'VE HAD THE JOY OF BEING A MEMBER OF THIS BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY FOR ALMOST 24 YEARS.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I HAVE EVER ASKED TO SPEAK AT OUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.
I COME TO YOU THIS EVENING AS A FORMER PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER, FORMER PRIVATE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR, FORMER COACH BUS DRIVER AND LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, I COME TO YOU THIS EVENING AS A CARING MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY, A HUSBAND AND FATHER OF A GRADUATE OF EVIL, SOME MORRISON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AS I UNDERSTAND HISTORY, THE CURRENT SCHOOL THAT SITS WHERE ED WILSON MORRISON RESIDES IS NOW 80 YEARS OLD.
THE ORIGINAL WOODEN SEATS STILL EXIST IN THE CURRENT AUDITORIUM.
AND UPSTAIRS CLASSROOM HAS BEEN CREATIVELY USED FOR SEVERAL YEARS AS A PLAY AREA FOR THE CHILDREN.
WHEN IT IS TOO COLD TO GO OUTSIDE, DUE TO COVID REGULATIONS.
THIS ROOM HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO BE USED THIS YEAR, SINCE IT WAS NEEDED TO STORE EXTRA DESKS AND CLASSROOM MATERIALS TO COMPLY WITH MITIGATION PROCEDURES.
CONSEQUENTLY, WHEN THE TEMPERATURE IS BELOW FREEZING OUTSIDE, THE YOUNG PEOPLE FOREGO THEIR MUCH NEEDED EXERCISE.
THIS OCCURS DESPITE MY UNDERSTANDING THAT 90% OF THE CHILDREN WHO ATTEND D WILSON MORRISON ELEMENTARY LIVE AT OR BELOW THE POVERTY LEVEL, I'M LED TO UNDERSTAND AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN LATINO AND OTHER MINORITY ELEMENTARY AGED CHILDREN, WHICH OUR COUNTY SERVES ATTENDEE WILL SOME MORRISON.
DESPITE THIS, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT HE WILL SOME MORRISON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS STILL THE ONLY SCHOOL ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE OR HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH DOES NOT HAVE A DESIGNATED GYMNASIUM.
HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE IN 2021? HOW CAN THE PORES CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY CONTINUE TO BE TREATED LIKE THE POOREST CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY WHILE OTHER SCHOOLS RECEIVED NICE NEW DESK CHAIRS AND STATE-OF-THE-ART SUPPLIES.
THE CHILDREN OF THE WILSON MORRISON RECEIVE HAND-ME-DOWNS FROM OTHER SCHOOLS, FRIENDS IT'S 2021 FOR THE SAKE OF COMMON KINDNESS, PLEASE AGREE THAT WE CANNOT AFFORD TO WRECK CANNOT AFFORD NOT TO RECTIFY THIS.
YOU ARE ABOUT TO RECEIVE A BUDGET PROPOSAL IF YOU HAVE IT ALREADY FROM OUR LOCAL SCHOOL BOARD IN THAT PROPOSAL, OR SEVERAL ITEMS OF NEED OF ATTENTION TO
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OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM AND OUR OUTDATED BUILDINGS.TWO OF THOSE LINE ITEMS ARE OUR RENOVATION BUDGET FOR THE ORIGINAL 80 YEAR OLD AUDITORIUM AND A STANDALONE BUILDING TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON THE PAVED PLAYGROUND AREA.
IF YOU LOOK CAREFULLY AT THE AMOUNT OF REQUESTS THAT IS NOT NEARLY ENOUGH IN MY VIEW, BUT THE MOST CONSERVATIVE AND RESPONSIBLE REQUESTS TO HELP US ALL LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS.
FINALLY, WHILE I REALIZE THAT NAMING A BUILDING SEEMS FAR AHEAD, RIGHT NOW, I OFFER THIS MARGARET HOLMES.
AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN SERVED AS THE PRINCIPAL AT EAGLESON MORRISON FOR MANY YEARS.
SHE WAS MY NOW 19 YEAR OLD SON'S PRINCIPAL FOR FIVE OF THOSE YEARS BECAUSE OF HER AND MANY OTHERS.
MY SON IS NOW A STUDENT AT JAMES MADISON UNIVERSITY.
PLEASE CONSIDER WHAT THE SCHOOL BOARD TO NAME THE RENOVATE OF THE AUDITORIUM IN HER HONOR, SINCE SHE HAS LEFT THE WILSON E WILSON HAS HAD FIVE PRINCIPALS IN THE PAST EIGHT YEARS, MRS. HOLMES SO MUCH WANTED TO SEE THAT AUDITORIUM FIXED TO SHOW THE CHILDREN AND OUR COMMUNITY AND THE STAFF THAT WORKED THERE THAT THEY TRULY MATTERED.
AS FAR AS THE NEW BUILDING IN OUR, IN OUR COMMUNITY, RESIDES A FAMILY THAT TRULY SHED PHYSICAL BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF US, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHOSE LIVES WERE SHATTERED AND CONTINUED TO STRUGGLE DUE TO THE LONGTERM EFFECTS OF RACISM IN OUR COUNTRY.
AGAIN, WHILE I REALIZED THAT THIS IS EARLY IN THE PROCESS, I PLAY WITH YOU TO DO YOUR PART IN HELPING HEAL THESE WOUNDS BY HONORING THE MANY SACRIFICES OF THE KILBY FAMILY, BY WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, TO NAME THE NEW BUILDING AFTER THIS BEAUTIFUL FAMILY, WITH A FITTING MEMORIAL OF HONOR IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, I'LL PERSONALLY PAY FOR THE MEMORIAL, WHAT BETTER PLACE THAN IN THE CENTER OF OUR TOWN TO SHOW OUR CHILDREN AND COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD AS A COMMUNITY IN A GENUINE AND SUBSTANTIVE MANNER.
THAT TO HONOR THE FAMILY THAT CHALLENGED US ALL TO SEE ONE ANOTHER FOR THE CONTENT OF OUR CHARACTER, AS OPPOSED TO THE COLOR OF OUR SKIN, LET US TRULY DO UNTO OTHERS AS WE WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO US, PUT US TRULY LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS AS OURSELVES.
THE OPPORTUNITIES HERE ENDLESS.
FINALLY, I BEG YOU AS MY NEIGHBORS AND MY FRIENDS.
WHICH MANY OF YOU ON THE DICE HAVE STATED THAT YOU WISH TO SEE IN OUR BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT, BRIAN TOMACO AND I APOLOGIZE IF I MISPRONOUNCED YOUR LAST NAME.
NO, IF I'M NOT SURE IF I'M THE PERSON TO TALK ABOUT THIS, THE SUBJECT HERE, I MIGHT LEAVE IT ON TO, UM, MR. MARLOWE OR HIS LAWYER.
WE ARE ON PROPOSING RIGHT NOW.
WAS I ON, I MIGHT'VE BEEN ON THE WRONG DOCKET.
I MIGHT ASSIGN THE WRONG, THE WRONG PAGE ON THAT.
SO I'M HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, DID ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SAY ANYTHING I'D LIKE TO GET A FEEL? IT IS SEVEN 30.
I'D LIKE TO START THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON TIME, BUT TO GET AN IDEA OF HOW MANY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING PART? UH, NOT THE HEARINGS TO COME THOUGH.
ANYONE ELSE WANTED TO SPEAK? OKAY.
WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[K1. Marlow and Silek Investments, LLC for the Amendment of Proffers (R2004-09-01, R2005-12-01, R2006-05-01, and R2007-05-01) – Taryn Logan]
AND THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS MARLO AND SILENT INVESTMENTS, LLC, FOR THE AMENDMENT OF PROFFERS ARE TWO ZERO ZERO FOUR DASH ZERO NINE ZERO ONE OR TWO ZERO ZERO FIVE DASH 12 DASH ZERO ONE OR TWO ZERO ZERO SIX DASH ZERO FIVE DASH ZERO ONE AND R TWO ZERO ZERO SEVEN DASH OH FIVE DASH OH ONE, MRS. LOGAN AT THEIR MEETING ON DECEMBER 21ST, 2004, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED MARLO INVESTMENTS, LCS REQUEST TO REZONE AND CHANGE THE ZONING MAP CLASSIFICATION.UM, ON, ON THE PROPERTY WE'VE REFERENCED, UM, TO COMMERCIAL.
THE PROPOSED USE OF THE PROPERTY WAS FOR A SHOPPING CENTER, WHICH THEY RECEIVED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE TOTAL PROPERTY ASSEMBLED BY THE APPLICANT, UM, IS 7.619 ACRES.
THERE ARE FOUR SETS OF PROFFERS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE LAMB WAS ACQUIRED AT DIFFERENT TIMES AND SUBSEQUENTLY REZONED AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
UM, THE APPLICANT AT THAT TIME, THE APPLICANT PROFFER TO DEDICATE A 60, UM, 60 FEET OF RIGHT AWAY FOR THE COUNTY'S PROPOSED COLLECTOR ROAD AT THE TIME OF FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
UM, THEY ALSO PROFFERED OTHER TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS AS I'VE LISTED IN MY COVER SHEET.
UM, I HAVE ATTACHED ALL THE PROPER STATEMENTS AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN YOUR PACKET.
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AND WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM MARLINS SOLID INVESTMENTS, LLC REQUESTING, UM, THAT ALL FOUR OF THE PROFFER STATEMENTS BE AMENDED TO ALLOW THE USE OF ENCLOSED STORAGE, UM, AND THE STORAGE OF RECREATIONAL VEHICLES AND CARS.THE PROFFER STATEMENTS, UM, RESTRICT THE USE OF THE PROPERTY TO SEVEN USES, WHICH INCLUDE AUTO SALES AND AUTO PARTS, GENERAL RETAILING, WHOLESALING, OFFICE, RESTAURANT, CONVENIENCE, HOTEL, OR MOTEL AND PERSONAL SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT.
THEY, UM, HAVE RECENTLY, UM, OUR AREA IN THE PROCESS, OR THEY HAVE SEWED A THREE ACRE PART OF THE PROPERTY TO AN ENCLOSED STORAGE BUSINESS.
UM, ANY RV OR CAR STORAGE WOULD NEED TO BE COMPLETELY SCREENED FROM VIEW OF ROUTE THREE 45 22, BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAS A HIGHWAY QUARTER OVERLAY DISTRICT, UM, IN THAT AREA.
AND THAT DOESN'T ALLOW, UM, THE OUTDOOR STORAGE.
IT MUST BE SCREENED AT THIS TIME.
THEY HAVE ALSO REQUESTED TO AMEND THE PROFFERS FOR OUR 2,409 OH ONE TO REDUCE THE WIDTH OF THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION, UM, FOR THE F FOR THE COUNTY'S FUTURE PLAN, NORTH SOUTH, SOUTH CONNECTOR ROAD.
UM, JUST THIS ROAD THAT I'M REFERRING TO, UM, IF YOU'RE BEHIND LIKE PANDA EXPRESS BETWEEN SEVEN 11 AND THE TARGET SHOPPING CENTER, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE ROAD STUBS OFF THERE AND THE COUNTY HAS PLANNED ON THEIR PLANS FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS TO HAVE A ROAD THAT WOULD CONNECT RIGHT OFF OF THAT, UP TO DIAMOND RIDGE ROAD AND, AND FURTHER IN THE FUTURE.
BUT, UM, AND THAT IS TO TAKE TRAFFIC OFF OF THE MAIN CORRIDOR HIGHWAY AND JUST, UM, TO HAVE THE TRAFFIC FLOW HAVE A BACK WAY TO GET TO THE BUSINESSES BASICALLY.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET BACK OUT ONTO THE CORRIDOR HIGHWAY.
UM, WE DO HAVE 50 FEET OF RIGHT AWAY THAT WAS, UM, GIVEN TO THE COUNTY AT THE REAR OF THE RURAL FARMS DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN, UM, THERE'S A PROPERTY IN BETWEEN, AND THEN THE MARLIN STYLE LIKE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH THEY HAD PROFFERED 60 FEET OF RIGHT AWAY.
AND THEY WERE THE FIRST PROPERTY KIND OF IN, UM, AND THEN SINCE THEN, YOU KNOW, IT INCREMENTALLY, AS SOMEONE WOULD COME TO REZONE, THE, THE COUNTY HAS THIS PLAN AND THEN WE WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO, FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY, UM, PROFFER.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, CRICKET RUN WEST PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY BEHIND TARGET HAS A PROFFER TO ACTUALLY, WHEN THEY GET TO A CERTAIN, UM, POINT IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY BUILD THAT COLLECTOR ROAD TO DIAMOND RIDGE.
UM, BUT AT THIS TIME THE APPLICANT HAS A REQUEST TO REDUCE THE RIGHT OF WAY THEY HAVE REQUESTED THE RIGHT OF WAY TO BE REDUCED TO 30 FEET FROM THE 60 FEET.
UM, I THINK I HAVE EVERYTHING IN YOUR PACKET.
THERE WERE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SKETCHES, WHICH I THINK THEY HAVE.
UM, I DIDN'T, UM, THEY'VE, THEY'VE KIND OF BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THEM.
SO I, I DIDN'T PUT THOSE IN YOUR PACKET, BUT YOU DO HAVE ALL THE PROFFER STATEMENTS.
YOU HAVE A LOCATION MAP, JUST, UM, THANK YOU.
SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS.
UM, IT'S REALLY JUST NORTH OF THE ROYAL FARMS. THANKS JOHN.
SO THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS PROPERLY ADVERTISED ALL JASON PROPERTY ATTORNEYS WERE NOTIFYING.
DOES THE APPLICANT WANT TO GO AHEAD AND PRESENT? YES, MA'AM UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE BOARD.
I'M THE ATTORNEY FOR MARLOW AND SILENT INVESTMENTS, LLC.
WE'RE ASKING, UH, THREE MODIFICATIONS HERE TONIGHT TO THE PROFFERS.
THE FIRST TWO, HOPEFULLY ARE NOT GOING TO BE DIFFICULT.
THAT IS THE INCLUSION, UH, AS AN APPROVED USE OF ENCLOSED STORAGE UNITS.
UH, AS YOU MAY BE AWARE IF YOU HAVE ANY FRIENDS OR RELATIVES WHO ARE TRYING TO MOVE AND TRYING TO PUT THEIR ITEMS IN STORAGE, THERE'S A DEARTH OF STORAGE FACILITIES HERE IN WARREN COUNTY.
UH, PEOPLE ARE GOING ON WAITING LISTS AND THERE'S JUST NOTHING AVAILABLE.
SO THIS WOULD BE A USE THAT WOULD BE HIGHLY DESIRABLE AT, IN DEMAND.
AND, UH, IT WOULD BE LOCATED ON THE BACK PARCEL OF THE THREE PARCELS INDICATED ON THESE PLANTS.
UH, ONE OF THE ISSUES IS THAT THIS
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THREE ACRE PARCEL, UH, IS OWNED BY, UH, INVESTORS THAT HAVE, UH, BOUGHT INTO THE MARLO AND SILENT DEVELOPMENT.AND THEIR REQUIREMENT IS THAT THERE'D BE THREE ACRES OF USABLE SPACE FOR THEIR STORAGE FACILITIES, UH, WITH THE 60 FOOT, RIGHT OF WAY IN PLACE AT THE BACK.
THIS CONSTRAINS THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THE THREE ACRES IN ORDER TO GIVE THEM THE THREE ACRES, THE LINE WOULD HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE FORWARD PLATS, CUTTING OFF THE AVAILABLE ACREAGE FOR THOSE PLATS AND MAKING THEM LESS DESIRABLE FOR NATIONAL BUSINESSES AND FRANCHISEES.
SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE TONIGHT, IN ADDITION TO GETTING APPROVED USAGE FOR THE ENCLOSED STORAGE IN THE SCREENED RV, UH, PARKING, WHICH DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY RV SERVICING OR SEWAGE DISPOSAL OR ANYTHING, IT'S JUST PARKING, GET THESE VEHICLES OFF THE STREETS OF THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN.
UH, WE ARE ASKING FOR A REDUCTION IN THE 60 FOOT WIDE PROFFERED RIGHT OF WAY AT THE BACK LINE OF THE BACK LOT, THIS WOULD ALLOW THE ACREAGE TO BE USED BY THE NEW INVESTOR, ALLOW THE STORAGE UNITS TO BE PLACED AND ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, WITHOUT A REDUCTION.
IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR MARLO AND SILENT TO MARKET THESE PARCELS FOR DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND WITHOUT DEVELOPMENT, YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE TAX DOLLARS AND YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
UH, IT SHOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLATS, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE CORRIDOR THAT WAS PROPOSED IN 2018 DIPS WILDLY, AND DOESN'T EVEN USE ALL THAT MUCH OF THE 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THE COUNTY IS GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT ISSUE.
IF THAT'S THE ROUTE TO BE USED, IF IT'S NOT THE ROUTE TO BE USED.
AND WE HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE SKETCH THAT SHOWS THAT THERE CAN BE OTHER, UH, PLACEMENT OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY, THEN, UH, WE COULD PERHAPS WORK OUT SOME SORT OF ARRANGEMENT, BUT THE BEST AND MOST FEASIBLE FOR, UH, ARRANGEMENT FROM OUR COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT IS TO REDUCE THE 60 FOOT WIDE EASEMENT TO A 30 FOOT EASEMENT.
IT SHOULD NOT IMPACT THE COUNTY.
THE COUNTY STILL HAS TO DEAL WITH OTHER LANDOWNERS THAT DOES IT HAVE PROFFERS WITH.
AND WE FEEL THAT THIS IS A REASONABLE REQUEST, GIVEN THE CONCESSIONS THAT MARLOWE AND SILAK HAVE MADE OVER THE YEARS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, I I'M LOOKING AT YOUR MAP AND ALL THREE OF THEM, RIGHT.
AND, UM, FROM LOOKING AT WHAT WAS IN OUR PACKET, IT'S MUCH EASIER TO SEE THE ROADS ON THESE THREE THEN WHAT'S WAS IN OUR PACKET.
BUT MY QUESTION IS THE ROAD DIPS DOWN INTO THE LOT WHERE IT, HOW, HOW DO YOU DEVELOP THAT WHEN THE ROAD GOES THROUGH THERE? BUT THAT ISN'T PART OF THE PROFFER.
THE PROFFER IS A STRAIGHT LINE, 60 FEET ON THE BACK.
AND I JUST ASSUME THAT'S WHERE THE ROAD WAS GOING TO GO IN LINE WITH THAT, BUT WHAT'S ON HERE DIPS DOWN, RIGHT.
IT JUST GOES UP LIKE YOU SAY, AT AN ANGLE, BUT IF THE ROAD IS GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED THIS WAY, AND YOU'RE BUILDING A BUILDING THERE IT'S, WE DON'T KNOW THAT WOULD BE A TAKING.
AND WE HOPE THAT THAT WOULDN'T OCCUR.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE ALTERNATIVE ROUTE THAT WOULD NOT DIP DOWN SO FAR INTO THE PROPERTY, BUT THAT DIP IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE CORRIDOR STUDY IN 2018.
THAT IS NOT THE CURRENT LOCATION OF THE PROF.
AS I SAID, THE 60 FOOT WIDE PROPER IS BASED ON YOUR QUARTER STUDY, PROBABLY ISN'T BEING USED AT ALL.
ANYWAY, AT LEAST TO ITS FULLEST EXTENT.
THE QUESTION CERTAINLY COULD YOU POSSIBLY RESTRICT PARKING ON ONE SATURDAY IF YOU'RE CAMPING RIGHT AWAY, COULD
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YOU RESTRICT THE PARKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE 30 FOOT RIGHT AWAY WOULD HANDLE THE TWO-WAY TRAFFIC OR WOULD THAT BE NECESSARY? I DON'T KNOW THAT A PARKING RESTRICTION WOULD BE NECESSARY.I THINK 30 FOOT WOULD BE ADEQUATE WITHOUT ADEQUATE PARKING.
I DON'T HAVE ALL YOUR SKETCHES, BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO MIND.
UM, WE HAD, WHEN THEY, WHEN MARLON SILENT PROFFERED, THE QUARTER STUDY, IT WAS JUST A LINE ON THE MAP.
THIS 70 FOOT WIDE IS KIND OF IS WHAT PENNONI ENGINEERING HAD LAID OUT AS TO WHERE THE TOPOGRAPHY LAID AS TO WHERE A, A ROAD COCO THE ROAD IS NOT GOING TO BE.
THAT WAS LIKE A FOUR LANE KIND OF LIKE A LEECH ROAD.
UM, 60, WE HAVE 50 FEET AND IT DOESN'T TIE IN HERE CORRECTLY AT THE BACK OF THE, FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY WE HAVE.
UM, THE, SO LIKE I SAID, THIS IS JUST, I, WE HAD GIVEN THIS TO, UM, MR TO SEE HOW IT WOULD TIE IN IF THE ROAD WAS CONSTRUCTED LIKE THAT.
BUT I THINK WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS JUST, WE WOULD GO THE 50 FEET OFF OF WHAT WE HAVE AT THE BACK OF PANDA BREASTS.
IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH MR. ANDERSON'S PROPERTY AND THEN TIE IN TO THE BACK RIGHT AWAY THAT, THAT THERE IS A MR MARLO'S SITE.
AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER PROPERTY BETWEEN THAT ONE AND IN DIAMOND RIDGE, AND THEN COME DOWN TO DIAMOND RANCH.
AND I MEAN, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT LAYER.
I MEAN, WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT THE COUNTY HAS PERIOD.
30 FEET AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY DOES 50 FEET.
HOW DOES, HOW DO YOU NAVIGATE, HOW DO YOU WORK WITH THAT? IF YOU HAVE A 30 FOOT RIGHT AWAY THAT IT'S CONNECTED TO A 50 FOOT MORE RIGHT AWAY WOULD NEED TO BE OBTAINED.
I MEAN, WHERE THE ROAD TO, TO GO THERE.
AND DO WE KNOW WHAT V DOT MINIMUM STANDARD WOULD BE? UM, WELL, WE RE, WE WORKED WITH VEDA WITH THE AIM WITH BOTH SIDES AND I MEAN, VEDA WOULD EVENTS WITH 60.
THEY'D PROBABLY STILL REQUEST SOME SLOPE AND DRAINAGE JEEZ MONTHS.
UM, SO I MEAN, 50, WE HAVE 50 FROM THE REAR OF RURAL FARMS, I WOULD SAY 50 FEET WOULD BE THE MINIMUM.
AND, AND IS, IS I MET WITH FEED OUT LAST WEEK.
I MEAN,
SO THAT'S JUST, THAT WOULD BE THE WAY IT WOULD GO.
WHEN YOU SAY BEAT UP WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE, WHERE ARE THEY? WOULD THEY PROPOSE THAT, UM, UH, WITH THIS, WITH THESE LAYOUTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE? WELL, I KNOW WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M ANSWERING A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
YEAH, NO, THEY, I MEAN, THE ROAD COULD EITHER SWING UP TO THE REAR WHERE WE HAVE THE 60 FEET OF RIGHT AWAY OR CAUSE SWING IN THE MIDDLE TO TIE INTO EMERALD LANE.
I MEAN, IT COULD GO EITHER, UM, EITHER WAY YOU HAVE MR. ANDERSON'S PROPERTY IN BETWEEN, SO MR.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS IF WE REDUCE THIS AT SOME POINT, IT'S GOT TO BE INCREASED BEFORE I WAS PUT THROUGH.
MR. MARLA, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK, SIR? I'M SORRY.
MY NAME IS JOHN MARLER LIVES 1770 JOHN MARSHALL HIGHWAY IN FRONT ROYAL.
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AND IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH THE BOARD THIS EVENING.EARLIER THAN THAT, I REALIZED HOW MUCH THINGS HAVE CHANGED YOU ALL LOOKING AT NATIONAL ISSUES AND THINGS THAT YEARS AGO WE NEVER THOUGHT OF, BUT ANYWAY, UM, LIKE MY, UH, APPRECIATION FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING, GIVE A LITTLE HISTORY TO THIS PROJECT.
ABOUT 17 YEARS AGO, I STARTED BUYING PIECES OF PROPERTY OUT THERE BY ONE CONTIGUOUS TO ANOTHER AND EACH TIME.
AND THIS WAS ABOUT 17 YEARS AGO.
EACH TIME I WOULD COME IN AND ASK FOR A REZONING AND THE COUNTY WOULD ASK FOR PROFITS, WHICH WOULD GRANT THE PROFFER.
ANOTHER PIECE, ANOTHER PIECE, I THINK AROUND 2007 IS WHEN THE, THE, A PROFFER WAS GRANTED FOR THE, UH, NORTH SOUTH.
UH, IT A ROAD ACROSS THE VAC, UH, AT THE TIME ALSO HAD TO GIVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR BOND THAT IT WOULD BE, UH, BUILT.
AND AFTER 10 YEARS, UH, IN THE PROFFER WAS IF THE ROAD WASN'T BUILT, I'D GET THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND BACK IN THE 10 YEARS PAST WASN'T BUILT.
I GOT A HUNDRED THOUSAND BUCKS.
EVERYTHING WAS GOOD, BUT IT MAKES YOU WONDER A LITTLE BIT THAT FROM 2004, 17 YEARS, 14 YEARS AFTER THE PROPHET ROAD, THE 10 YEARS THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE, NOTHING HAS HAPPENED.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANY MORE REAL ESTATE HAS BEEN ACQUIRED, WILL IT EVER BE BUILT? BUT MEANTIME, WE'VE HAD THIS PROPERTY 17 YEARS ADDED TO IT, UH, WORKED WITH THE COUNTY.
WE DID THE, UH, REVENUE SHARING ACROSS THE FRONT THAT COST US $225,000, UH, GREATLY ENHANCED THE VALUE I THINK OF OUR PROPERTY.
AND ALSO TH THAT THE CORRIDOR ALONG THERE HAS BEEN HELP.
BUT, UH, IF SOMETHING WE DID, WE THOUGHT WE WERE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY.
NOW WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DILEMMA WITH SOLD THREE ACRES, AND WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM THREE USABLE ACRES.
BUT IF WE PUSH IT TOO FAR TO THE EAST, THEN WE TAKE THE VALUE AWAY AS FAR AS, UH, THE NATIONAL, UH, COMPANIES WHO WANT TO COME IN NOW.
AND WE HAVE SOME THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME IN AND IT MAKES IT LESS MARKETABLE TO THEM.
SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF DILEMMA THAT WE'RE IN, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE ASKING FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE TONIGHT AND ANY, UH, THING THAT YOU CAN DO TO HELP US.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? IS THERE ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? THIS IS ROCKY JANEWAY SIGNED UP.
HI, THE THOMAS BUREAU, I'M HERE REPRESENTING A CROOKED RUN WEST AND, UH, QUIRKY RUN NORTH.
UM, I HOPE THAT THE BOARD CAN FIND A WAY TO ALLOW MR. MARLAR TO CAPTURE THE VALUE THAT HE SEEKS ON HIS PROPERTY.
JUST AS I SEEK TO MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS OWNED COMMERCIALLY IN CROOKED RUN WEST, THE, UM, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION DETERMINED THAT A FOUR LANE ROAD WAS NECESSARY AND THE 60 FOOT, UM, WAS NECESSARY FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT, UM, TRAFFIC HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP MORE TIMES THAN I CAN COUNT IN THIS VERY ROOM BY THE PUBLIC AND THAT ROAD IN THE 60 FOOT RIGHT AWAY IS DESIGNED TO REDUCE TRAFFIC ON FIVE 22.
DO YOU MIND GIVING YOUR ADDRESS FROM IS JUST ROCKY.
UM, MY, MY MOTHER LIVES IN ROCKLIN ROAD AND I LIVE IN WOODSBORO MARYLAND.
ANYONE ELSE? SIGN UP AS THIS ROCKING? YES.
MADAM CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, EDWARD MURPHY, 8,009 WOLF TRAP ROAD, DUN LAURYN, VIRGINIA, TWO TWO ZERO TWO SEVEN.
I'M SPEAKING AS MANAGER OF CROOKED RUN SHOPPING CENTER AND CROOKED RUN WEST, UH, BASICALLY WANT TO LAY OUT WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE LAST 17 YEARS.
WE'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY SINCE 2004, VERY SIMILAR TO MR. MARLOW, UH, BUT JUST WANT TO KINDA RUN OVER THE FACTS AS TO HOW WE GOT HERE AND HOW DECREASE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY ON THIS PROPERTY, UH, IS GOING TO CRUSH ALL THE PLAN THAT WE BASICALLY DID UP TO THIS POINT.
THE APPLICANT AGREED TO A 30 TO A 60 FOOT WIDE FUTURE
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RIGHT AWAY IN 2004, CROOKED RUN DEVELOPED THE PROPERTY IN ACCORDANT CROOKED RUN, LLC DEVELOPED THE SHOPPING CENTER, THE TARGET SHOPPING CENTER IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COUNTY MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, 2007 CONSTRUCTION.THE WESTERN COLLECTOR ROAD HAS STARTED AS A FOUR-LANE DIVIDED SECTION.
IF YOU GO OUT AND LOOK BETWEEN SEVEN 11 AND PANDA EXPRESS, A FOUR LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY HAS BEEN STARTED CROOKED RUN WEST REQUESTED REZONING OF 97 ACRES FROM AG TO COMMERCIAL IN 2009.
CROOKED RUN WEST WAS GRANTED COMMERCIAL REZONING STATUS IN 2009 WITH A MASTER COUNTY PLAN AND COMMERCIAL ZONING CROOKED RUN WEST AMONGST OTHER TRANSPORTATION, PROFFERS, PROFIT, MONETARY SHARE OF THE COLLECTOR ROAD.
IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN WE GET THERE AND WE NEED IT TO TAKE TRAFFIC OFF THE, OFF THE CONCERN OF THE INTERSECTION AT FIVE 22 WINCHESTER ROAD CROOKED RUN A COUNTRY CLUB ROAD, SORRY.
UM, THIS ROAD IS GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED.
IT'S GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED AT OUR COST.
UH, IT'S IN OUR PROVINCE, IT'S ALL LAID OUT.
WEST COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS DEPENDENT ON THE WESTERN COLLECTOR ROAD TO RELIEVE TRAFFIC VOLUMES.
WALMART TARGET LOWE'S NEED TO GO FURTHER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT CROOKED RUN WEST.
ISN'T COMPLETELY CONTINGENT ON THIS ROAD, BUT DARN NEAR ALL OF OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES.
AND WE'VE DONE VOLUMES OF TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES THAT SHOW THAT TO TAKE THE, AND KEEP THE LEVELS OF SERVICE THAT ARE ON FIVE 22 WINCHESTER ROAD CROOKED RUN COUNTRY CLUB ROAD.
THIS WESTERN COLLECTOR ROAD IS NECESSARY.
THIS IS, THIS IS PART OF THE COUNTY'S COMMERCIAL MASTER PLAN.
ALSO KNOWN AS ROYAL FARMS, UH, WERE INVOLVED IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT.
WE DEDICATED OUR SHARE OF LAND TO THIS COLLECTIVE ROAD.
WE DEDICATED 50 FOOT AMONGST OTHER RESORTS IN ANTICIPATION OF A FEED OUT, ALLOWING THE FOUR LANE HIGHWAY IN CROOKED RUN, CONNECT DOWN TO A CONTINUED FOUR LANE HIGHWAY WITH OR WITHOUT A DIVIDED SESSION, 50 FOOT WE'LL DO IT ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE ON, ON, ON ROYAL FARMS, ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE, ALL, ALL THE PLANNING THAT'S BEEN DONE ON A CROOKED RUN WEST HAS ALWAYS CONTEMPLATED A FOUR LANE ROAD SECTION.
IT DIDN'T JUST COME UP IN REVIEWING THE APPLICANT'S PACKAGE.
THE APPLICANT IS SIMPLY REQUESTING TO JUST DROP OFF 30 FEET.
IT, IT DOESN'T SEEM REASONABLE.
IT, THIS WILL NOT ALLOW US TO GET THE DIAMOND RIDGE IN THE FUTURE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND ALL THE, ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE CONTEMPLATED IN REVENUE, SHARON, BACK THEN PLANNING STAFF.
I THINK YOU'VE HEARD THE UNCERTAINTY ALREADY TONIGHT PLAN.
THEY'RE NOT REALLY SURE IF WE GOT WORKS AT SIX 30 FEET, 60 FEET, 50 FEET.
ONE OF THE THING IN REVIEWING THE APPLICANT'S REVENUE SHARING PACKAGE FROM 2017 PER THE MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT CROOKED RUN NORTH ROYAL FARMS CONTRIBUTED $350,000 TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF IMPROVEMENTS ALONG ROUTE FIVE 22, MARLIN SILENT CONTRIBUTED 200 AND TWENTY-FIVE THOUSAND.
THAT WAS ONLY CONTEMPLATED IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY.
THE BALANCE OF THAT MONEY CAME FROM THE COUNTY.
IN CONCLUSION FOR THE PRESERVATION OF CONTINUED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND FOR THE PRESERVATION OF THE COUNTY'S MASTER PLAN BOOK, THE EASTERN AND THE WESTERN COLLECTIVE ROADS, WE ASK THAT YOU RECONSIDER THIS APPLICATION, AT LEAST PAYABLE IT, GIVE US SOME DISCUSSION AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE GO FROM HERE.
WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T GIVE UP THE VALUE IN THE RIGHT AWAY THAT WE GAVE UP ON CROOKED RUN NORTH ON FOUR OLD FARMS. WE COULD'VE, WE COULD'VE PUT A CARWASH IN THERE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN VALUED AT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
IF WE WOULD'VE KNOWN THE COLLECTOR ROAD WAS GOING TO DEAD END PORT DEADHEADS.
AND IF ANYBODY TRIES TO RESOLVE LUTHER ANDERSON'S PROPERTY, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE PROFITS TO PUT THIS ROAD IN.
SO THEY HAVE 60 FEET, 50 FEET PLUS SOMETHING FROM LUTHER ANDERSON.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE DEAD ENDED AT 30 DOESN'T SOUND GOOD TO ME.
UH, GOT A LOT OF OTHER DOCUMENTATION, BUT YOU'VE HEARD IT ALL BEFORE AND PROBABLY SEEN IT.
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UH, BRIAN, ANYONE ELSE THERE'S NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP.WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT THAT HASN'T SIGNED UP? ANYONE ELSE LAST CALL, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, WHAT IS THE BOARD'S PLEASURE? MADAM CHAIR, GIVEN WHAT WE'VE HEARD HERE, AND THIS IS A LOT MORE COMPLICATED THAN I THINK ONE PRESENTATION COULD, UH, MOVE TO A DECISION AND I WOULD MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TABLE THIS REQUEST, UNTIL WE CAN REVIEW MORE ABOUT WHAT THE POTENTIAL IMPLICATIONS ARE TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND TO THE VALUE OF THIS COMMERCIAL.
AND WE ONLY HAVE SO MUCH IN THIS COUNTY.
AND SO WE NEED TO, I THINK, TAKE A LONGER TIME TO CONSIDER WHAT THIS MIGHT, WHAT IMPACT THIS MIGHT HAVE.
SO I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TABLE, THE REQUEST TO THE FUTURE.
SARAH SECOND CIRCUIT, THERE IS THIS ROCKY ROAD.
I KNOW THERE'S NOT MUCH, UM, DISCUSSION ON TABLING, BUT W DO YOU HAVE A TIMEFRAME? I MEAN, IS THIS INDEFINITE OR WHEN YOU FORESEE THIS COMING BACK, BECAUSE ALL PARTIES WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS COME TO SOME RESOLUTION.
WELL, I THINK THAT WE COULD TABLE IT TO THE NEXT MONTH'S MEETING AT THE SAME TIME.
DOES, UM, DOES THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME DARREN, TO COME UP WITH ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT MIGHT HELP US? SURE.
I MET, UM, I DID MEET WITH THE APPLICANTS MONDAY, UM, TO GO OVER JUST, UM, SOME DIFFERENT POSSIBLE LAYOUTS OF THE BUILDINGS AND, UM, WHAT THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT WAYS WE COULD WORK THE SETBACKS COMING IN, UM, FROM THE OTHER RIGHT OF WAYS, BUT I'M HAPPY TO MEET WITH THEM AGAIN.
AND, UM, AND MR. MR. MURPHY TOO, OF COURSE.
I BELIEVE THAT EVERYBODY WANTS THIS TO COME TO A RESOLUTION THAT PLEASES EVERYBODY, OR AS MUCH AS WE CAN FOR EVERYBODY, SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO WIN SOME, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO LOSE SOME, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE SITTING HERE TONIGHT.
FIRST TIME HEARING GOT TO HAVE GOT ENOUGH INFORMATION TO GIVE IT UP HONEST.
I CAN, I CAN CERTAINLY, UM, MEET WITH EVERYONE AND HOPEFULLY MAYBE COME TO A RESOLUTION.
AND I MEAN, OUR, I THINK EVERYONE'S GOAL IS THE SAME TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY, BUT ALSO TO BE ABLE TO, UM, PRESERVE THE PLANNING THAT WE'VE DONE IN THIS AREA.
THERE'S A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT 17 YEARS AGO.
AND I THINK THE REASON TRYING TO GET THIS PROPER FOR THIS, UH, ACCESSORY ANCILLARY ROAD WAS TO TRY TO REDUCE THE TRAFFIC ON FIVE 22, BUT WE HAVE ALL SEEN THE UPTURNS DOWNTURNS WITH COMMERCIAL, ESPECIALLY RECENTLY WITH COVID, YOU KNOW, THE BRICKS AND MORTAR COMMERCIAL.
UM, WE'RE KIND OF GETTING, UH, THEY'RE YIELDING TO, UM, ONLINE STUFF, BUT THERE, AGAIN, AS I UNDERSTAND TOO, WITH, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL OUT THERE, BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, IF THE, UH, OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY, YOU CAN FIND SOME REASONABLE USE FOR THE STORAGE FACILITIES, THAT MAKE SENSE.
BUT WE, I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR THE, UM, THE, THE, THE ROAD.
I DON'T FORESEE THE, UH, STORAGE FACILITIES, CREATING THAT MUCH TRAFFIC AS MAYBE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE.
BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, STEP BACK AND LET A PLANNING STAFF LOOK AT IT.
AND THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD TOO, AND THIS WOULD BE MAYBE MORE LEGAL SINCE MS. COLOR'S HAS, UH, CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WOULD MR. HAM THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS THIS IN THE FUTURE? OR HOW WILL WE HANDLE THAT? I'VE, YOU'VE HAD YOUR PUBLIC HEARING AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO A MOTION TO TABLE AND NOT HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING IF THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE DIFFERENT PROFFERS OR SOMETHING ELSE, OR THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT COULD TRIGGER PUBLIC HEARINGS, BUT
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I'VE JUST HEARD THAT THIS BOARD WANTS SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE CURRENT REQUEST.SO YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.
WELL, THE BOARD CAN HAVE AS MANY AS IT WANTS TO LEGALLY DOESN'T HAVE TO.
AND THANK YOU SHORT AND, AND WHILE I'M TALKING, BUT THERE WAS THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE WAS TO TABLE IT IN INDEFINITELY, AND THAT WAS SECONDED.
AND I THINK, UM, MRS. OATES IS NOW MADE A MOTION TO TABLE IT UNTIL THE SECOND MEETING IN APRIL.
AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE A SECOND CIRCUMSTANCE.
FOR, EXCUSE ME, FOR CLARIFICATION.
ARE YOU TABLING TO THE THIRD WEEK? THE THIRD TUESDAY OF APRIL? YES, SIR.
ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MR. CARTER, MS. OATS MADDEN CHAIR.
[K2. Modification Request for Conditional Use Permit 84-03-01, Shenandoah Valley Golf Club for a 27 Hole Golf Course and Related Facilities to add Canoe/Kayak/Tube Rentals – Matt Wendling]
AND THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING IS MODIFICATION REQUESTS FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 84 DASH ZERO THREE DASH DEER ONE SHANANDOAH VALLEY GOLF CLUB FOR A 27 HOLE GOLF COURSE AND RELATED FACILITIES TO ADD CANOE, KAYAK AND TUBE REYNOLDS.MADAM CHAIR, THE SHENANDOAH VALLEY GOLF CLUB WAS ORIGINALLY ISSUED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN 1984 FOR A COMMERCIAL GUEST HOUSE.
AS THE GOLF COURSE WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1963 AND WAS CONSIDERED GRANDFATHERED AT THAT TIME.
IN 1999, THE GOLF CLUB OWNERS REQUESTED A MODIFICATION TO THE CUP TO RENOVATE AND EXPAND THEIR BANQUET HALL, RESTROOM FACILITIES, CLUBHOUSE CART BARN, AND MAINTENANCE FACILITY, AND A GOLF COURSE FOR A CHANGE OF USE FOR THE GUEST HOUSE TO A THREE BEDROOM BED AND BREAKFAST AT THIS TIME, THE CURRENT OWNER, UM, AND APPLICANT RICHARD RONDON JR IS REQUESTING TO ADD CANOE, KAYAK AND TUBING RENTALS IN ORDER TO DIVERSIFY THEIR OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES AT THE SHENANDOAH GOLF CLUB.
THIS WILL OFFER BOTH TOURISTS AND RESIDENTS OF WARREN COUNTY.
THE GOLF CLUB WILL OFFER CANOE TRANSPORT SERVICES TO MORGAN FORWARD BOAT, BRIDGE FARMS, RIVERVIEW, BOAT, LANDINGS, AND BERRIES FERRY RAMP OFF ROUTE 50 IN CLARK COUNTY.
THE EXISTING BARN THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY WILL BE USED TO STORE AND MAINTAIN THEIR FLEET AND THEIR HARD SURFACE PARKING LOT, WHICH DOES HAVE SUFFICIENT PARKING WILL ACCOMMODATE THE CUSTOMER AND VEHICLE TRANSPORT.
CURRENTLY THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ESTATE IS FROM 1984.
IT'S AN AUTHORIZED USE OF A 27 HOLE GOLF COURSE AND RELATED FACILITIES.
AND IT HAS TWO CONDITIONS LIST OF PERMITTED USES TO INCLUDE A 27 HOLE GOLF COURSE AND RELATED FACILITIES, UH, CLUBHOUSE AND CAR SHEDS, AND A THREE ROOM BED AND BREAKFAST.
AND NUMBER TWO APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL V DOT AND HEALTH DEPARTMENT REQUIREMENTS AND REGULATIONS.
WE ARE, UM, THEY ARE SEEKING TO JUST ADD AN ADDITIONAL USE THAT WOULD BE FOR CANOE, KAYAK, TUBING RENTALS, AND TRANSPORTATION SERVICE.
UM, AGAIN, WE DON'T, UH, IT'S OUR OPINION THAT THIS DOESN'T REQUIRE A NEW APPLICATION FOR A CUP.
WE FIND THAT JUST A MODIFICATION TO THE EXISTING WOULD BE FINE.
IF YOU DO HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.
I KNOW THE APPLICANT MR. RUNYON IS HERE.
HE CAN ALSO HELP ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS IS NOW OPEN.
MR. RUNYON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD? GOOD EVENING, UH, RICHARD RUNYON NINE TWO SEVEN BOWLING GREEN ROAD, FRONT ROYAL, VIRGINIA.
UM, JOE BASICALLY SAID IT ALL, UM, WITH THE DOWNTURN IN THE WEDDING BUSINESS, THE GOLF OUTING BUSINESS, UM, WE'RE APPROACHING MULTI MILLIONS AT THIS POINT.
UM, AND IF ANY OF YOU HAVE STAYED AT THE HOMESTEAD OR, UH, SOME FOUR SEASON RESORTS, A LOT OF TIMES THEY OFFER, YOU KNOW, UH, TUBING OR KAYAKING, PRIMARILY KAYAKING AND CANOEING, UM, AT THEIR FACILITIES.
SO THAT'S BASICALLY ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ADD MORE AMENITIES TO THE CLUB SO WE CAN STAY IN BUSINESS.
I WAS GOING TO SAY ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS FROM THE BOARD FOR MR. RUNYON GET READY HEAD.
UH, WOULD YOU BASICALLY BE USING THE FACILITIES AT THE LOW WATER BRIDGE FOR THE CANOE AND CANOE OPERATIONS? WE DID ABOUT 30 RUNS.
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UM, I GREW UP ON WILDCAT DRIVE JUST DOWN THE STREET AND SHANNA VALLEY.THAT WOULD BE YOUR MAIN POINT OF ENTRY.
AND THAT WILL BE OUR PRIMARY POINT OF ENTRY.
IT'S 4.75 MILES TWO FORMS FOR REVIEW.
SO I'D PROBABLY BE A PRIMARY KAYAKING OR KAYAKING TUBE WE THINK.
AND THAT'S ABOUT 6.75 MILES TO BARRY'S FARRIER, ROUTE 50 BRIDGE, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY BE A COMPLETE DAY TRIP, DEPENDING ON YOUR SPEED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS? WELL, THE, THE QUESTION I HAD AND YOU AND I HAD A CONVERSATION, I WAS BEING A GOOD STEWARD TO THE RIVER WAS IMPORTANT TO ME.
AND, UM, SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THOSE THAT WATCHED THE MEETINGS.
UM, YEAH, THIS IS NEW TERRITORY FOR US, OF COURSE.
UM, BUT STAFF AND I DISCUSSED, UM, WE'VE BEEN GOOD STEWARDS FOR OVER 50 YEARS AT THE CLUB.
UM, THE OLDEST 18 YEAR 18 HOLE GOLF COURSE IN WARREN COUNTY.
UM, SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT TRADITION.
UH, WE ALSO, ANYTHING THAT WE MANUFACTURE OR PRODUCE FOOD WISE WILL BE BIODEGRADABLE IN A BIODEGRADABLE, UH, RECEPTACLE, UH, EACH VESSEL, WHETHER IT'S A TUBE, KAYAK OR CANOE WILL HAVE ITS OWN, UH, WE'VE BEEN RESEARCHING THEM, UH, LIKE A MESH TRASH BAG AND WHOEVER'S DROPPING OFF AND PICKING UP WE'LL INSTRUCT THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT THE AREAS, UM, IN BETTER CONDITION WHEN WE LEAVE THEM, WHEN WE GOT THERE, THAT'S ABOUT ALL WE CAN, YOU KNOW, I WISH WE COULD HAVE, UH, OVERSIGHT WITH PEOPLE ON THE RIVER.
I KNOW THIS IS KNOWN AS THE CANOE CAPITAL OF VIRGINIA, SO THERE WILL BE SOME PROBLEMS. I'M SURE, SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, SOMEBODY WILL SEE A SHENANDOAH VALLEY GOLF CLUB OWNER, UM, ON THE RIVER, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR ABSOLUTE BEST TO TAKE CARE OF IT, MITIGATE IT.
MR. CHEROKEE, DID ANYONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK? NO.
DOES ANYONE HERE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING? SECOND CALL.
ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK THIRD AND FINAL CALL? OKAY.
AND WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD ON THIS MADAM CHAIR? I MOVED AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE REQUEST TO MODIFY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 84 DASH 93 DASHES OR ONE OF SHANANDOAH VALLEY GOLF CLUB.
YOU ADD IT, YOU SUPPORT CANOE, KAYAK, TUBING RENTALS, AND TRANSPORT SERVICES TO THE EXISTING USES ON THE PERMIT.
THIS CHEROKEE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
I ASK IF THERE WAS ANY, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING, GO RIGHT AHEAD.
USUALLY A DISCUSSION AFTER THE MOTION.
ANYWAY, THE ONLY THING I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AS FAR AS, UM, YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH CONTROL OVER THE CANOERS AND WHAT THEY MAY DO, BUT I COULD POSSIBLY SEE THAT ONE OF YOUR GOLFERS, MISS MISSES A PUTT, OR HAS A WICKED HOOK.
HE LOADS HIS CLUBS UP INTO THE CANOE AND GOES DOWN THE RIVER AND THROWS THEM OUT.
BUT, BUT NO, I THINK IT'S GOOD.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S STRUGGLING.
I THINK IT'S ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, UM, ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES AND THEN KEEP IT VIABLE BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S, UH, IT'S A GREAT GOLF COURSE WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT.
MADAM CHAIRMAN, ROLL CALL MS.
MR. FOX, MR. MABE, MADAM CHAIR.
[K3. Conditional Use Permit 2021-01-01, Justin and Felicia Katzovitz for a Short-Term Tourist Rental – Matt Wendling]
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2021 DASH ZERO ONE DASH ZERO ONE, JUSTIN AND FELICIA CATS, BETS FOR SHORT-TERM, UH, TOURIST RENTAL.MADAM CHAIR, THIS PROPERTY WAS RECENTLY PURCHASED BY THE APPLICANTS WHO BOUGHT THE PROPERTY FOR A SECOND HOME FOR USE AS A VACATION RESIDENCE FOR THEIR OWN USE AND POSSIBLY SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL.
THEY ARE REQUESTING THIS PERMIT IN ORDER TO OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS OF THE PROPERTY, SUCH AS THE MORTGAGE INSURANCE AND MAINTENANCE.
AND THEY MENTIONED IN THEIR STATEMENT OF JUSTIFICATION THAT THEY PLAN TO MARKET THE PROPERTY TO TOURISTS, LOOKING FOR ACCESS TO OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES.
THIS PROPERTY DOES HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO LIBERTY HALL ROAD, ROUTE SIX 22, WHICH IS A STATE ROAD AND IS NOT IN A POA OR HOA.
THIS PORTION OF THE STATE ROAD IS GRAVEL, BUT MAINTAINED BY, BY V.TO JUST PASS THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY.
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TOURIST RENTAL DWELLING DOES MEET THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS TO THE CLOSEST ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, WHICH IS 188 FEET TO THE WEST.AND THAT DWELLING IS ABANDONED AT THE CURRENT TIME.
AND THAT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY FOR SALE.
AND THIS IS LOCATED AT 1253 LIBERTY HALL ROAD.
UM, IT DID WAS APPROVED OR RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL.
AT LAST WEEK'S PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WITH THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONDITIONS.
THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS, AND THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS SHALL NOT EXCEED SIX AS DETERMINED.
AND ACCORDING TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S OPERATIONAL FORMAT FOR 43 BEDROOM DWELLING, AND THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE WELL WATER TESTED ANNUALLY FOR ECO ELIAN, CALIFORNIA BACTERIA, AND A COPY OF THE RESULTS I'LL BE SUBMITTED TO PLANNING AND HEALTH DEPARTMENTS AT THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.
AGAIN, THIS WAS DISCUSSED LAST WEEK AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IN A PUBLIC HEARING.
AND ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT DID COME UP WAS THE ROAD ITSELF.
IT IS, YOU KNOW, GRAVEL, UM, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A STATE MAINTAINED ROAD, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC AND EXISTING CONDITIONS.
UM, AGAIN, THOSE ARE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
SO OUR OFFICE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THAT WITH V DOT ASIDE FROM THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ABOUT ANY IMPROVEMENTS OR MAINTENANCE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON LIBERTY HALL ROAD CURRENTLY.
SO WE WILL BE DOING THAT AND WHETHER THIS IS APPROVED OR DENIED THIS EVENING.
SO, UM, THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, I'D ALSO BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE BOARD? MY NAME IS JUSTIN KASSOVITZ OF 1253 LIBERTY HALL ROAD.
UM, UM, LIKE MR. PETTY SAID, UH, MY WIFE AND I, UH, JUST RECENTLY PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY TO USE AS, AS A SECOND HOME VACATION RENTAL.
UM, WE HAVE, WE LIVE IN THE AREA, UH, IN, IN THE NORTHERN VIRGINIA AREA.
UM, BUT I THINK A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT OUT OF OUR, UM, PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WE DID SUBMIT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS, UM, THE FACT THAT WE WERE USING A, A LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER.
I, I PLAN TO SAY I'M VERY ACTIVE IN, IN, IN RENTING OUT, UM, THE HOUSE AND THEN USING A LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER AS WELL.
THAT'S, THAT'S EVEN CLOSER TO THE PROPERTY, UM, ON A DAILY BASIS.
UM, ON TOP OF THAT, I DID WANT TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN BROUGHT UP DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S MEETING.
UM, I ALTERED SLIGHTLY THE, THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN, YOU KNOW, WE DID MENTION THE GRAVEL ROAD AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE ANY, ANY POTENTIAL RENTERS WERE AWARE OF THE DANGERS.
IT IS A SINGLE LANE ROAD AND VERY NARROW, UM, AND STRICTLY PUT IN A 10 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT ON TOP OF, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST WARNING THE DANGERS OF IT.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS, UM, EVERYTHING.
SO AGAIN, UM, MY WIFE AND I LOVE THE AREA AND, UH, WE, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN THIS CONDITION ON THESE PERMITS.
I'M A LITTLE BIT FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT AS THEY'RE NOT, WE'RE STILL ON THAT ROAD THAT TRAFFIC CAN BYPASS THAT LAD ENOUGH FOR TWO CARS TO BAPTIZE WITH DAILY TRAFFIC.
THERE'S SO THERE'S CERTAIN AREAS, UM, WITH, WITH THE DRIVEWAYS WHERE, WHERE YOU COULD BYPASS EACH OTHER.
UM, AND AGAIN, IT IS DEFINITELY A CONCERN THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.
IT'S NOT TWO LANES, SO THAT MUST BE, YEAH.
AND I BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN OPEN REQUEST WITH VIDOC TO, TO LOOK INTO IT.
UM, I DON'T THAT THERE REALLY ISN'T REALLY A WAY TO MAKE IT TWO LANES AND I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, PROPER TO, TO THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA TO GO THAT ROUTE.
UM, I DID SUGGEST TO, TO MATT, UM, WELDING IN, UH, IN AN EMAIL LAST WEEK TO SAY, PERHAPS WE COULD POST A SPEED.
THERE WAS NO POSTED SPEED LIMIT SIGN AT THAT FAR BACK ON THE ROAD, AND THERE'S NO WARNING SIGN AS WELL.
SO THAT COULD BE A, AN EASY COMPROMISE TO FIX THAT AS WELL.
WELL, YOU PUT YOUR OWN SPEED LIMIT SIGN ON.
NO, THAT'S I WAS JUST SUGGESTING SEPARATELY FROM THE CONDITIONAL USE TO GO THROUGH THAT.
NO, NO, NO, I WOULDN'T DO THAT MYSELF.
WELL, WE WE'VE STATED TO RENT THERE'S ANYBODY THAT'S NEW TO THE AREA THAT THERE IS, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST PUTTING THAT IN THERE AS A WARNING IN THE PACKAGE THAT THEY RECEIVE WHEN THEY RENT.
IS THAT A STATE ROAD? IT IS A STATE ROAD.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO SET THE SPEED LIMIT AT THE RECOMMENDATION.
I THINK IT WAS STATE ROADS SPEED.
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OR SOMETHING BY A RIGHT.SO WE HAD TO GO BACK TO V.TO GET THIS.
SO WE'LL BE, AGAIN, AS THERE, REGARDLESS OF THE RESULT OF TONIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING TO YOU OUT ABOUT THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND PLANNING COMMISSION AND GETTING THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, LIKELY HAVE A SITE VISIT WITH THEM TO DISCUSS TRAFFIC FUTURE BUILD OUT ON THERE AND ANY CONCERNS THAT MAY COME UP WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, AND I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.
UM, I WENT THERE TODAY TO MAKE SURE I HAD A VISUAL OF WHERE YOUR PROPERTY, BUT I ALWAYS LIKED TO GO AND, UM, SEE FOR MYSELF SO THAT WHAT'S IN HERE MAKES SENSE.
AND, UM, IT, IT DOES, IT'S, THERE'S A, IT NEEDS TO BE GRADED AND THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME GRAVEL PUT DOWN.
SO I WILL BE CONTACTING V DOT AND ASKING THEM WHERE THEY ARE WITH THAT PLAN.
THEY USUALLY START DOING THAT IN THE SPRING TIME.
SO, UM, I WILL LOOK INTO THAT, BUT, UM, AND IT IS A NARROW ROAD.
SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT IN YOUR PLAN, THAT YOU'RE GONNA SUGGEST THAT PEOPLE, YOU CAN ONLY SUGGEST IT, YOU CAN'T ENFORCE IT, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT YOU DID PUT 10 MILES BECAUSE IT IS, IT IS A TRICKY LITTLE ROAD AND, UM, THE AMOUNT OF POTHOLES ARE THERE IS INDICATIVE OF THE SPEED ON THAT ROAD.
SO, AND YOU HAVEN'T STARTED THIS, OR YOU CAN'T BE BLAMED ON THAT, BUT, UM, AND IT'S, UM, ALSO APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LOCAL MANAGEMENT.
THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A CONCERN WHEN THE OWNER WANTS TO BE THE MANAGER AND YOU'RE TWO HOURS AWAY THAT THAT GIVES THE, YOUR NEIGHBORS A SENSE OF RELIEF THAT YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY MUCH CLOSER.
IF THERE IS A PROBLEM THAT THEY SEE THAT THEY CAN DO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? I HAVE ONE QUESTION, AND MAYBE IT'S A MOOT POINT RIGHT NOW AT THIS TIME, BUT, UM, THE, UM, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH ASKED FOR A, UM, HAVE THE WELL WATER TESTED HAS THAT HAPPENED.
I MEAN, THERE IS NOT ONE IN THE PACKET HERE, SO THAT'S PART OF THEIR REQUIREMENTS FOR ANY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
AND WE TYPICALLY, UNTIL THE PERMIT IS APPROVED RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, PUTTING AN UNDUE BURDEN ON THE APPLICANT TO EXPEND MORE MONEY FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT APPROVED, THAT'S TYPICALLY REQUIRED AFTER THE APPROVAL OF THE PERMIT, THEY WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO GET THEIR CERTIFICATE OF ZONING, TO HAVE THE AUTHORIZED USE UNTIL WE HAVE ALL THAT DOCUMENTATION.
AND THEN EVERY CALENDAR YEAR, THEY HAVE TO SEND THOSE REPORTS TO OUR OFFICE.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE IT DID ASK FOR IT AND THEN IT'S NOT IN THE PACKET.
ACTUALLY KNOWS, UH, WEST OF THAT STATE ROAD UP TO THEIRS, THEY'RE MARKED SIMILAR AS WHAT THE ACTUAL WIDTH IS.
UM, I'M NOT CURRENTLY FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT I'M SURE WE CAN, UH, FIND SOME SURVEY DATA IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU OUT TO KNOW THE ACTUAL WIDTH AND THE RIGHT OF WAY WITH THIS WEALTH TO THAT.
IT'S LOOKING ON THIS ONE DIAGRAM AND I DON'T THINK IT, I'M NOT SURE IF THOSE NUMBERS ARE, YOU KNOW, GIVE THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD, BUT THERE IS SOME THERE.
THE, THE SURVEY THAT WE HAVE, UM, SAYS IT'S A 30 FOOT RIGHT.
HOWEVER, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S THE ACTUAL YEAH, I, I DON'T THINK SO.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY.
THANK YOU, MRS. ROCKY, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO.
IS WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING SECOND CALL? WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK THIRD AND FINAL CALL PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
UM, I'D LIKE TO SUPPORT THIS, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO TABLE IT JUST FOR, TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON THE ROAD, I'M IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT I'M NOT, I'M NOT REALLY NOT COMFORTABLE TO GO FORWARD WITH IT MYSELF AT THIS TIME.
I'LL SECOND THAT WHEN, HOW LONG DID TILL THE, TO THE THIRD MEETING OF NEXT MONTH? YES, THAT'D BE FINE.
AND MR. CARTER, YOU'RE SECONDING THAT WITH THE DATE OF THE THIRD MEETING OF APRIL.
MA'AM ROLL CALL MRS. SHIRAKI MR. CARTER, MS. OATS, MADAM CHAIR, MR. MABE, MR.
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FOX CONDITIONAL[K4. Conditional Use Permit 2021-01-02, John and Sheila Kirkpatrick for a Guesthouse – Matt Wendling]
USE PERMIT 2021 DASH OH ONE DASH OH TWO, JOHN AND SHEILA CA KIRK PATRICK FOR A GUEST HOUSE.MR. PETTY, THE APPLICANTS ARE REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A GUEST HOUSE.
THEY'RE REQUESTING THIS USE IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A ONE BEDROOM CABIN ON THE LOT PRIOR TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THEIR PERMANENT SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ON THE PARCEL.
THEY PLAN TO LIVE IN THE CABIN TEMPORARILY, SINCE THEY CURRENTLY LIVE IN YORKTOWN, VIRGINIA AND DESIRE TO RELOCATE AND OVERSEE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE MAIN DWELLING IN THE FUTURE, THEY PLAN TO UTILIZE THE CABIN FOR FAMILY AND FRIENDS WHO VISIT THEM ONCE THEY RECEIVE THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE PRIMARY DWELLING, A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THE PROPERTY SHOWING LOCATIONS OF BOTH DWELLINGS AND THE APPLICANTS ARE WORKING WITH AN ONSITE SOIL ELEMENT EVALUATOR FOR BEST LOCATIONS FOR THE SEPTIC SYSTEMS. THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THE GUEST HOUSE IS FOR NON-COMMERCIAL USE AND NOT TO BE USED FOR FULL-TIME OCCUPANCY.
AFTER THEY MOVE INTO THE PRINCIPAL DWELLING.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON RED HILL WAY IN BENTONVILLE, VIRGINIA, IT'S 5.3 ACRES AND ZONED AGRICULTURAL.
AND CURRENTLY IT IS VACANT, UM, AS WITH ANY GUESTHOUSE.
AGAIN, IT IS FOR NON-COMMERCIAL USE IN THE FUTURE, UM, THE GUEST HOUSE.
AND IF THE, AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF, THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS WOULD BE PLACED ON THE PERMIT THAT THE GUEST HOUSE SHOW NOT BE USED FOR.
THE ACCESSORY DWELLING SHALL NOT BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL RENTAL OR LEASING OF ROOMS FOR COMPENSATION OF ANY KIND.
AND THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR SMOKE AND FIRE DETECTOR SYSTEM.
THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE A CONDITION PLACED ON THE DEED AT THE TIME OF TRANSFER OF THE PROPERTY TO A NEW OWNER THAT THIS IS A NON-COMMERCIAL GUEST HOUSE IN THE RENTAL OR LEASING OF THE DWELLING FOR MONETARY COMPENSATION IS PROHIBITED.
AND THAT IT IS LIMITED TO PART-TIME OCCUPANCY UP TO SIX MONTHS IN A CALENDAR YEAR, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID VOTE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.
I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE YET IN THE BACK.
IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, I'D ALSO BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
PUBLIC HEARINGS NOW OPEN WITH THE APPLICANTS LIKE TO PRESENT
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? NOT MRS. ROCKY, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO.
LET HIM CHAIR, DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING? SECOND CALL.
DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS THIRD AND FINAL CALL PUBLIC HEARINGS NOW CLOSED.
IS THERE A MOTION? HAVE A QUESTION IF YOU WOULD.
IS THIS A PLANET MODE? IT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO THIS PROPERTY.
CAN I, EVEN THOUGH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, YOU KNOW, IS THIS A PRIVATE ROAD, SIR? THERE'S A DRIVEWAY.
I SHAPED LOT THAT GOES WITH THE BOTTLE GETS TO THE TOP OF THE DEAL.
SO IS, IS THIS A SUBDIVISION RATHER THAN, IS IT A SUBDIVISION OR PRIVATE ROAD ROAD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS? IT GOES RIGHT HERE.
SO RED HILL WAY IS THE PRIVATE SUBDIVISION ROAD TO HIS PROPERTY.
WHAT RE RED HILL ROY ROAD IS THE PRIVATE SUBDIVISION ROAD.
AND THEN HIS GOES OFF OF THAT.
SO IT'S A PRIVATE SUBDIVISION RATHER THAN JUST GOING UP THERE.
THERE IS AN AGE AWAY IS ROW STATES IN A MAJOR WAY.
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YOU NOTICED BETTER THAN US CAUSE HE LIVES THERE.BUT YEAH, I HAD TO PAY A COUPLE OF HUNDRED DOLLARS TO PUT SOME GRAVEL ON THERE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IT'S JUST LIKE A TWO PAGE HOMEOWNERS AGREEMENT OR WHATEVER IT IS.
BUT IF THERE IS AN ASSOCIATION THERE, YEAH.
THEY PROBABLY CHIP IN TO MAINTAIN THE ROAD BECAUSE IT IS PRIVATE AMONG THEM.
SO IT MAY NOT BE AN ACTUAL FORMAL RATIONALIZED HOA.
EVERYBODY PROBABLY CHIPS IN TO, WE SEE THAT A LOT WITH THE PRIVATE RIDES.
IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION, IF WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION, THAT'S GREAT.
I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST OF JOHN AND SHEILA KIRKPATRICK FOR A GUEST HOUSE, WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? ROLL CALL MRS. SHIRAKI MR. FOX, MR. MABE, MADAM CHAIR.
[K5. Conditional Use Permit 2021-01-03, Carl and Jennifer Ey for a Short-Term Tourist Rental – Joe Petty]
USE PERMIT 2021 DASH OH ONE DASH OH THREE, CARL AND JENNIFER I FOR A SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL.THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL.
THE RENTAL WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM VISITATIONS FOR INDIVIDUALS TO BE VISITING MORE IN COUNTY AREA.
THE OWNERS CURRENTLY LIVE IN ALEXANDRIA, VIRGINIA, AND THEY WILL HAVE THE HOME PROFESSIONALLY CLEANED AND MAINTAINED IN BETWEEN RESERVATIONS.
AND THEY'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED THEIR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THEY DO HAVE A LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER, WHICH THEY'VE INCLUDED THEIR PHONE NUMBER IN THE PACKET.
THEY HAVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE OF OWNING AND OPERATING SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND THE SHENANDOAH VALLEY AREA.
THIS WOULD BE THEIR FIRST IN WARREN COUNTY.
UM, IT'S, I BELIEVE IT'S FOUR LOTS ALTOGETHER.
THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL IS 21 ACRES, BUT IN TOTAL IT IS 63 ACRES.
UM, IT DOES MEET THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, UM, TO THE CLOSEST DWELLING, WHICH IS TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY CARL AND JENNIFER AS WELL, WHICH WE WILL BE REVIEWING THAT ONE AFTER THIS ITEM AND THAT'S 140 FEET TO THE NORTH.
UM, THE, THE CONDITIONS ARE SIMILAR TO OTHER CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS AS THEY NEED TO MEET, UM, BUILDING AND HEALTH DEPARTMENT REQUIREMENTS AND STATEWIDE PREVENTION.
HOWEVER, WITH THIS ONE, PARTICULARLY IN SPEAKING WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THE APPLICANTS, UM, THE CURRENT PERMIT IS FOR A THREE BEDROOM, SIX PERSON OCCUPANCY.
UM, IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS HOME, IT IS A QUITE A LARGE HOME.
THEY ARE WORKING WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO SEE ABOUT GETTING A CONDITIONAL PERMIT THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL BEDROOMS, HOWEVER, THAT WOULD NOT EXCEED ANY OCCUPANCY LOW.
UM, SO WHEN THEY REACHED RECENTLY PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY UNDER THE ASSUMPTION HAS FIVE BEDROOMS, UM, BUT STILL ONLY A SIX PERSON OCCUPANCY.
WE HAVE TALKED TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THEY FORCED DON'T FORESEE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
AGAIN, THE OCCUPANCY WILL STILL REMAIN AT SIX AND THAT'S WHAT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WOULD LIMIT IT TO.
SO AGAIN, THOSE CONDITIONS ARE ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS IN VIRGINIA STATEWIDE PREVENTION, CODE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.
THE MAXIMUM KNOCK, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS SHALL NOT EXCEED SIX AS DETERMINED BY THE WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
SHALL PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION TO WARREN COUNTY STAFF FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE SEWAGE TREATMENT SYSTEM AS RECOMMENDED BY THE WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
AND YOU HAVE PENN SHALL HAVE THE WELL WATER TESTED ANNUALLY FOR ECO-LINE CALIFORNIA BACTERIA, AND A COPY OF THOSE RESULTS SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING AND HEALTH DEPARTMENTS BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.
UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THIS APPLICATION.
IF DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.
AND THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE AS WELL.
PUBLIC HEARINGS NOW OPEN, SIR.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT? I THINK JOE WAS PRETTY THOROUGH IN HIS COMMENTS ABOUT HE STARTED BACK WHEN I CAME BACK FROM MY SECOND DEPLOYMENT HAD ON MY WARM MONEY.
SO I BOUGHT MY FIRST PROPERTY, BUT IN THE RENTAL BUSINESS, DOING THIS ON THE SIDE FOR A LONG TIME AND, UH, ROLLED ON THE RAY FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS, SOLD EVERYTHING OVER THERE AND GOT LUCKY AND BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY FROM MS. PATINA CALLOWAY AND HER HER ESTATE.
AND, UM, WE'RE FINE WITH THE THREE OF THE SIX PERSON OCCUPANCY.
UH, WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY HIRING A SEPTIC PERSON TO COME OUT AND TELL US HOW TO MAKE IT A FIVE
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BEDROOM, BUT UM, MORE PEOPLE.BUT NONETHELESS, RIGHT NOW WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH THE A 6% OCCUPANCY AND YOU HAVE A LOCAL, UM, MANAGEMENT AND A LOCAL CLEANER TO LOCAL MANAGEMENT.
UM, I'M HIRING PEOPLE OUT HERE.
ABSOLUTELY THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.
I MEAN, WHEN I WAS ANDREA IN 90 MINUTES AWAY AND I HAVEN'T BEEN THROUGH IT YET, SO I GOT 90 MINUTES TO GO HOME AND GET DINNER.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? MRS. SHAHRAKI IS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? NOBODY I'M CHAIR.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING? SECOND CALL ANYONE LIKED TO SPEAK THIRD AND FINAL CALL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
WHAT WOULD THE BOARD LIKE TO DO? MADAM CHAIR? I MOVED AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST OF CARLA AND JENNIFER E FOR SHORT TERM TORCH RUNNER WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, MRS. SHAHRAKI MR. CARTER, MS. OATS, MADAM CHAIR, MR. MABE, MR. FOX
[K6. Conditional Use Permit 2021-01-04, Carl and Jennifer Ey for a Short-Term Tourist Rental – Joe Petty]
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2021 DASH OH ONE DASH FOUR, CARL AND JENNIFER.I FOR SHORT-TERM TURDUS RENTAL.
THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. LAST ONE FOR THIS EVENING.
UM, YEAH, KENT IS AGAIN MR. I HERE AND HE IS SEEKING A SHORT TERM RENTAL FOR THE HOUSE JUST NORTH OF THE LAST PERMIT.
THIS PARCEL IS ONLY TWO ACRES, BUT AGAIN, IT'S PART OF THAT CONTINUOUS 63 ACRES OF LAND.
THIS PROPERTY AGAIN, WOULD HAVE ALL THE SAME CONDITIONS AND REQUIREMENTS AS ANY OTHER SHORT-TERM RENTAL, INCLUDING THE ONE JUST TO THE SOUTH.
AND HE HAS THE SAME PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN, SAME PROPERTY MANAGER AND RESTRICTIONS FOR THIS ONE.
UM, THIS HAS A, UH, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WAS HAVING TROUBLE WITH, UM, FINDING ACTUAL PERMITS FOR THIS ONE.
BUT MR. I'S WORKING WITH AN ENGINEER ON THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL TO GET THAT MEDIATED, BUT HE IS, UM, THE TAX RECORDS SHOW IT AS A TWO BEDROOM, WHICH TYPICALLY LEADS TO FOUR PERSON OCCUPANCY.
SO WE'VE PLACED A CONDITION THAT THIS WOULD NOT EXCEED FOUR OCCUPANTS.
IF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT DOES DEEM THAT IT'S ONLY A SYSTEM THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE TO THAT WOULD BE THE LIMIT BECAUSE AS THE CONDITION STATE IT'S PER THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT REQUIREMENTS, HOWEVER THAT SHALL NOT EXCEED FOUR.
UM, THEY'RE THE SAME CONDITIONS AS THE LAST TIME, EXCEPT NUMBER TWO, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS SHALL NOT EXCEED FOUR AS DETERMINED, ACCORDING TO THE ORANGE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
UM, MR. I'S HERE, IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ONE, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM AS WELL.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ON THIS ONE? THAT'S DRY.
MR. PETTY DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB SUMMARIZING AND SPOKE WITH, UM, THE WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT THERE WITH THE STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UH, YESTERDAY AND TODAY.
FIRST NAME IS GREG AND LAST NAME ESCAPES ME.
UH, HE'S ASKED ME TO BRING OUT A SEPTIC ENGINEER.
IT'S GOING TO COST ME A COUPLE OF BUCKS TO MOVE A LITTLE EARTH, FIGURE OUT WHAT THE SEPTIC SYSTEM IS.
T IT'S KIND OF A WILD CARD SIMPLY BECAUSE GREG MENTIONED TO ME THAT THEY BUILT THIS HUGE HOME THERE, THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT 1406 AND THEY WERE CURIOUS WHY THE SEPTIC SYSTEM AND THE PREVIOUS OWNER HAD NOT BEEN CERTIFIED.
SO I SAID, I DON'T KNOW, I JUST BOUGHT THE HOUSE, BUT SO NOW THE ENGINEERS WANT TO COME UP AND TAKE A PEEK AND TELL ME WHAT IT'S, WHAT IT'S ASSESSED AT.
GIVE IT TO GREG AND THEN GRAVES IN THE SENATE.
AND I MET HIM OVER HERE OR BY WHATEVER IT IS WITH A TWO PERSON.
I WENT TO HIM FOR ANOTHER PROPOSAL IN TROUBLE.
WELL, SURPRISINGLY IT TOOK HIM SEPARATED 64, EIGHT REPLIED INITIALLY IN THE FOUR PIECES.
AND ONE OF THEM IS 2.2 AND THAT'S WHERE THAT CABIN SITS.
AND IT'S A BRAND NEW KITCHEN, PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO THAT CABIN FOR NOT SEPTIC SYSTEM, BUT LIKE IF THEY HAVE TOILETS WORK.
ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS FROM THE BOARD MRS. SHRUNK, HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR THIS ONE? OKAY.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE SECOND, CALL ANYONE THIRD AND FINAL CALL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
DO I HAVE A MOTION OR ANY DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT ON THIS MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST OF CARL AND JENNIFER
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TOURIST RENTAL WITH CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.I HOPE WE GOT THE NAME RIGHT? SECOND SANDY DISCUSSION.
MS. SHIRAKI MR. FOX, MR. MABE, MADAM CHAIR.
I MISS OATS, MR. CARTER, AND CLOSE THIS OUT OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR TONIGHT.
[E. Warren County Planning Commission 2020 Annual Report – Taryn Logan]
SO WE'RE BACK TO WARREN COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION, 2020 ANNUAL REPORT, MRS. LOGAN, THE CODE OF VIRGINIA REQUIRES THAT LOCAL PLANNING COMMISSIONS MAKE AN ANNUAL REPORT TO THE GOVERNING BODY CONCERNING THE OPERATION OF THE COMMISSION AND THE STATUS OF PLANNING WITHIN ITS JURISDICTION.THE PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSED AND APPROVED THE REPORT AT THEIR MEETING LAST WEEK.
UM, IN YOUR PACKETS, YOU SHOULD HAVE THE REPORT, UM, JUST TO GO THROUGH AND HIGHLIGHT, UM, BUILDING PERMITS THE COUNTY, UM, DID APPROVE 191 NEW HOUSING UNITS LAST YEAR.
AND, UM, THIS FOR THE YEAR 20, 20 AND 40 OF THOSE WERE IN THE TOWN AND 151 WERE OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN.
AND THE COUNTY IS AT A 1.1% ANNUAL GROWTH RATE.
WE MONITOR THAT, UM, EACH YEAR, ACCORDING TO THE NEW HOUSING PERMITS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF WERE BUSY, UM, IN 2020 REVIEWING A VARIETY OF PLANNING ISSUES.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE STILL ARE THIS YEAR.
UM, WE WORKED WITH THE AGRICULTURAL UNFORESEEABLE DISTRICT COMMITTEE TO RENEW ALL THREE DISTRICTS, UM, FOR A TOTAL OF 12,602 ACRES IN THE DISTRICT.
AND WE CONTINUE TO MANAGE THE COUNTY'S CONSERVATION EASEMENT PROGRAM.
WE WORKED WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, UM, TO INCLUDE 443 ACRES IN AN EASEMENT.
HOW BY THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY NOW HOLDS 3,543 ACRES IN EAST BENNETTS.
AND THESE MAPS ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR, UM, REPORT.
THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER REVIEWED 21 CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS LAST YEAR.
UM, AND WITH THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC, OUR OFFICE ISSUED A RECORD NUMBER OF HOME OFFICE PERMITS TOTALING 260 PERMITS.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF SPENT A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME REVIEWING THE PROPOSED REZONING FOR THE SHEETZ CONVENIENCE STORE.
UM, WE WORKED WITH CHIPOTLE AND FIVE GUYS RESTAURANTS AND THE MULTI-TENANT BUILDING AT RIVERTON COMMONS, UM, FOR THEM TO OPEN.
UM, BY THE END OF LAST YEAR, THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED A SITE PLAN FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE AUTO CARE CLINIC.
UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH ORANGE WAREHOUSE COMPANY FOR WAREHOUSE FACILITY ON THE CORNER OF BALL DRIVE AND FAIRGROUND ROOM.
AND WE WORKED WITH THE TECHNOLOGY COMPANY, UM, TO ISSUE A BI-RITE PERMIT FOR THEM TO BE LOCATED FRONT ROW WARREN COUNTY AIRPORT.
AND WE CONTINUE TO MEET WITH, UM, COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES ALL THE TIME TO HELP GROW THE TAX BASE AND THE COUNTY, WE CONTINUE TO ORGANIZE AND LEAD THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE.
UM, WE REPRESENT COUNTY ON THE JOINT TOWN COUNTY TOURISM ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
I'M ON THE ANTI-LITTER COUNCIL ON THE TOWN'S COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT AND ON THE NORTHERN SHANDO REGIONAL COMMISSION, TRANSPORTATION TECHNICAL COMMITTEE.
WE, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF, UM, THE DEPARTMENT HANDLES THE WELL AND SEPTIC APPEALS BOARD.
WE HAD ONE OF THOSE APPLICATIONS LAST YEAR AND WE HANDLE THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS AND WE HAD TWO VARIANCES LAST YEAR.
UM, OUR GIS COORDINATOR CONTINUES TO WORK, UM, WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE TOWN AND THE NEXT GENERATION.
AND, UM, SHE CONTINUES TO DO MAPPING FOR A LOT OF VARIOUS COUNTIES AND AGENCIES AND PROJECTS WHEN WE DID WELCOME THREE NEW PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, UM, LAST YEAR.
AND, UM, WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THIS COMING YEAR TO CONTINUE TO REVIEW LAND USE ISSUES.
AND, UM, HOPEFULLY BEGINNING OF OUR CONFERENCE, A PLAN UPDATE AND RECOMMENDING AN UPDATED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
WE'RE WAITING FOR PROJECTS TO BE SUBMITTED TO US BY THE END OF THIS MONTH TO GET THAT GOING.
AND, UM, WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO ASSESS THE PUBLIC.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THE REPORT IF YOU HAVE ANY WELL, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO ON ALL OF THIS IN YOUR DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE A GREAT PLANNING TEAM AND VERY PROUD OF THEM.
WE'VE GOT MORE FOR YOU TO DO THE WAY WE LIKE THE CHALLENGE.
COULD YOU ADOPT THAT? I WAS GOING TO SAY, WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE REPORT.
SO MOVED SECOND, SECOND, MS. SHIRAKI ROLL CALL PLEASE.
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OATS, MADAM CHAIR.[F. Reports – Board Members, Interim County Administrator, Interim County Attorney]
REPORTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS, MR. CARTER.UH, THE ONLY THING, WELL, TWO THINGS MAYBE, UM, I NOTICED OUR PACKET WAS A ROUGHLY 600 PAGES WAS THE RAIN.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP NUMEROUS TIMES.
I THINK THIS, THE NEW MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAD TALKED ABOUT MAYBE GETTING AN IPAD AND STUFF.
I THINK MS. SHIRAKI HAD RESEARCHED THIS PREVIOUSLY, AS FAR AS THE COST BENEFITS, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MAYBE LOOK AT THIS FOR A BUDGET MATTER.
AND AGAIN, MY OTHER FURTHER SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROBABLY JANUARY ONE WHEN THERE'LL BE A BRAND NEW BOARD AND ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS CAN LEARN SIMULTANEOUSLY.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK IF MS HAS THE TIME TO UPDATE THOSE FIGURES SHE HAD AND THE SAVINGS ON PAPER, UH, HOPEFULLY IT DOESN'T TAKE AS MUCH TIME TO DO THIS STUFF, BUT THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION IF THE BOARD WANTS TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT.
UH, THE OTHER THING IS, I GUESS THERE WERE TWO, I THINK THAT'S IN MY DISTRICT AND ONE, THERE WERE TWO SIGNIFICANT FIRES WE'VE JUST HAD IN THE PAST WEEK WHEN ONE WAS ON APPLE MOUNTAIN, UM, WHICH I THINK THEY BROUGHT IN.
I KNOW THEY BROUGHT IN TANKERS FROM COMPANY THREE, COMPANY NINE.
THEY BROUGHT IN CLARK COUNTY, THEY BROUGHT IN FREDERICK COUNTY.
UM, AND THEN THEY ALSO HAD THE, UH, FIRE TRAINING BUILDING UP OF THE ESA SITE.
SO, UH, THE FIREFIGHTERS HAD BEEN BUSY THIS WEEK AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORTS THAT THEY PUT FORTH AND, UH, APPRECIATE ALL THEIR SERVICE.
I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW.
I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT MR. FOX.
I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT MR. MABE.
WELL, I WANT TO WISH MRS. OATS, A HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
AND UM, I WANT TO LET EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE TREE ON THE TELEPHONE CABLE WIRE NEAR THE KOA AND THREE 40 ROAD SOUTH.
THAT THAT TREE IS FINALLY OFF THAT WIRE.
IT'S ONLY TAKEN ABOUT A MONTH, A WHOLE LOT OF PHONE CALLS AND DISAGREEMENTS, BUT, UM, THE, THE WORK CREW, THE CONTRACTORS WERE WORKING ON PUTTING A POLE IN NEAR ROCKY LANE.
SO I PULLED OVER AND BEGGED AND HE SAID, I SHOWED HIM THE PICTURE.
AND HE SAID, WELL, I'VE GOT FLAGGERS.
SO I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE THAT IT'S DOWN.
I KNOW WHAT A SHERIFF'S SMART HAS BEEN TAKEN CALLS.
FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN TAKEN CALLS AND WASN'T ANYTHING YOU GUYS COULD DO ABOUT THAT.
UM, SATURDAY I WAS, UM, HAD THE PLEASURE OF JUDGING FOUR H UM, PRESENTATIONS, AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF REALLY GOOD, UM, FOUR H PROGRAMS GOING ON HERE.
AND, UM, IT TOOK ME BACK TO MY DAYS OF WHEN I USED TO DO THOSE AND HOW HARD IT WAS.
SO SITTING THERE JUDGING WAS SO MUCH EASIER AND THE KIDS DID REALLY WONDERFUL.
UH, ALSO ATTENDED THE HOSPICE OPEN HOUSE.
IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN IN THERE, YOU NEED TO GO IN THERE.
THAT THAT STORE IS JUST PHENOMENAL AND IT'S SUCH A GOOD CAUSE AND THEY TAKE DONATIONS.
SO IF YOU'VE GOT STUFF, I NEED TO GATHER UP A LOT AND TAKE THEM MYSELF, AND THEN JUST WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY AND SAFE ST.
SO PERSEVERANCE DOES PAY OFF DOWN THERE AND FINDING THE RIGHT GUY AT THE RIGHT TIME.
I GUESS THE BOARD HAS THE REVIEWED, THE, THE AUDIT REPORT WOULD NOTE THE HIGHLIGHT OF SIMPLY THE FACT THAT YOU SPENT A LITTLE OVER 2 MILLION LESS THAN YOUR BUDGET.
YOUR REVENUES WERE A LITTLE MORE THAN 2 MILLION OVER YOUR BUDGET.
SO THE NET WAS, YOU WERE ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF MILLION TO THE GOOD COMPARED TO THE BUDGET.
YOU ALSO INCREASED YOUR GENERAL FUND CASH BALANCED BY APPROXIMATELY $900,000.
SO IT WAS A, IT WAS A GOOD YEAR THERE.
AND DESPITE EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU LOOKED AT AND TALKED TO THE NET WAS, WAS VERY GOOD.
UH, THIS YEAR'S REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES LOOKING AT THE FEBRUARY, THE BIG CHART, YOU SEE WHERE WE'RE NOW TWO-THIRDS OF THE YEAR, 66.7%, WHATEVER.
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APPROXIMATELY 68% OF OUR REVENUE, OUR FACT, EXCUSE ME, 62% OF THE REVENUE, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE YOUR SECOND HALF TAXES DON'T COME IN UNTIL SPRING AND YOUR REVENUE, YOUR EXPENDITURES RATHER, OR AT 68.SO THEY'RE RIGHT IN LINE WITH WHERE YOU ANTICIPATE BEING IN CONSIDERING ALL OF YOUR COVID EXPENDITURES THIS PAST YEAR, I COMMEND YOUR DEPARTMENTS FOR WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO.
UH, WOULD NOTE THAT NEXT WEEK WE HAVE THE MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AT SIX O'CLOCK.
AND DEPENDING UPON OUR COMPUTER SITUATION, WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL BE ASKING YOU TO LOOK AT THE GENERAL FUND BEFORE AND AFTER THAT SESSION, UH, THE BUDGET IS ESSENTIALLY READY FOR THE BOARD TO REVIEW THE SOFTWARE.
COMPUTER SOFTWARE HAS HAD A, OR THE SERVERS HAD A DISRUPTION ON FRIDAY, BEGAN MARCH THE SEVENTH.
AND WE DISCOVERED THIS THIS FRIDAY, AND THAT HAS LEFT US OUT OF THAT BUSINESS SINCE THAT TIME WORKING ON THAT.
AND WE'LL DISCUSS THAT WITH YOU FURTHER IN THE CLOSED SESSION.
DALEY THAT THOSE WHO ARE TRYING TO EMAIL US AND IF WE'RE NOT RESPONDING, IT'S DUE TO THAT PROBLEM.
UM, THERE ARE ALL OUR PHONE NUMBERS ARE LISTED ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE, SO YOU CAN REACH US THAT WAY.
UM, BUT THAT IS THE ISSUE AT HAND.
WE'VE NOT EMAIL SINCE SATURDAY, I GUESS REALLY APPRECIATE THE CLOSE COOPERATION WE'VE HAD WITH THE SHERIFF AND HIS STAFF ON WORKING ON THROUGH THIS PROBLEM THIS WEEK.
AND I, AND I CERTAINLY DON'T MIND IF PEOPLE CALL ME, THAT'S WHY MY PHONE NUMBER IS THERE.
[G. Appropriations and Transfers]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, PREPARATIONS AND THEN TRANSFERS.DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ACCOUNTS AS PRESENTED? IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MR. CARTER.
[H. Approval of Accounts]
APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS.DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ACCOUNTS IS PRESENTED.
SO MOVE SECOND ROLL CALL, MR. SHAHRAKI.
[I. Approval of Minutes – Regular Meeting of March 2, 2021]
UH, APPROVAL OF MINUTES, REGULAR MEETING MARCH 2ND, 2021.ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT AS PRESENTED? IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MR. CARTER, MS. OATS, MADAM CHAIR.
[J. Consent Agenda ]
CONSENT AGENDA.ARE THERE ANY ITEMS TO DISCUSS POOL NUMBER TWO, PLEASE.
NUMBER TWO, COULD WE PULL NUMBER FOUR, NUMBER FIVE? OKAY.
THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA WITH, UM, NUMBER TWO, FOUR, AND FIVE POOL FOR DISCUSSION.
SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI.
WHO MADE THE MOTION? YOU YOUR SECOND TO SECOND, WHO MADE, WHO MADE I'LL MAKE IT OKAY.
[J2. Adoption of a Resolution to Educate Warren County Residents and the Medical Community on the Risks of Traveling to China for Organ Transplant – Tony Carter]
OKAY.MR. CARTER, YOU POOLED NUMBER TWO.
WE HAD TWO SPEAKERS PREVIOUSLY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, UH, ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
AND I WAS WONDERING MS. UH, SHIRAKI WOULD BE SO KIND TO ACTUALLY READ THE RESOLUTION.
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A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF WARREN COUNTY TO EDUCATE WARREN COUNTY RESIDENTS AND THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY ON THE RISKS OF TRAVELING TO CHINA FOR ORGAN TRANSPLANT IN LIGHT OF RECENT REPORTS OF STATE SPONSORED ORGAN HARVESTING FROM PRISONERS OF CONSCIENCE.WHEREAS EXTENSIVE INCREDIBLE REPORTS HAVE REVEALED MASS KILLING OF PRISONERS OF CONSCIENCE IN THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA, PRIMARILY PRACTITIONERS OF THE CHINESE SPIRITUAL PRACTICE OF FATHOM GONG, BUT ALSO OTHER RELIGIOUS AND ETHNIC MINORITY GROUPS IN ORDER TO OBTAIN ORGANS FOR TRANSPLANTS.
AND WHEREAS THE CHINA TRIBUNAL AND INDEPENDENT TRIBUNAL SITTING IN LONDON CHAIRED BY SIR JOFFREY, NICE QC, WHO WAS A PROSECUTOR AT THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL TRIBUNAL FOR THE FORMER YUGOSLAVIA CONCLUDED ON JUNE 18TH, 2019 IN A UNANIMOUS DETERMINATION AT THE END OF ITS YEAR LONG HEARINGS, THAT THE KILLING OF DETAINEES IN CHINA FOR ORGAN TRANSPLANTS IS CONTINUING AND VICTIMS INCLUDE IMPRISONED FOLLOWERS OF THE FELON GONG MOVEMENT.
AND WHEREAS THE 2017 FREEDOM HOUSE REPORT QUOTE THE BATTLE FOR CHINA'S SPIRIT AND QUOTE STATES THAT AVAILABLE EVIDENCE SUGGESTS THAT FORCED EXTRACTION OF OREGON'S FROM FALUN GONG DETAINEES FOR SALE IN TRANSPLANT.
OPERATIONS HAS OCCURRED ON A LARGE SCALE AND MAY BE CONTINUING.
AND WHEREAS AN INVESTIGATIVE REPORT PUBLISHED IN JUNE, 2016 BY HUMAN RIGHTS ATTORNEY DAVID MADIS, FORMER CANADIAN SECRETARY OF STATE FOR ASIA PACIFIC DAVID KILGORE AND JOURNALIST.
ETHAN GUTMANN IS ESTIMATED THAT CHINA HAS PERFORMING TRANSPLANTS AT A RATE OF MOUNTING TO AN INDUSTRIAL SCALE STATE DIRECTED ORGAN TRANSPLANTATION SYSTEM CONTROLLED THROUGH NATIONAL POLICIES AND FUNDING AND IMPLICATING BOTH THE MILITARY AND CIVILIAN HEALTHCARE SYSTEMS AS KILGORE DESCRIBED THESE PRACTICES IN HIS SPEECH TO THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT IN 2016, AND WHEREAS PHELAN GONG, A SPIRITUAL PRACTICE INVOLVING MEDITATED QIGONG EXERCISES AND CENTERED ON THE VALUES OF TRUTHFULNESS, COMPASSION AND FORBEARANCE BECAME IMMENSELY POPULAR IN CHINA IN THE LATE 1990S WITH MULTIPLE ESTIMATES PLACING THE NUMBER OF PRACTITIONERS AT UPWARDS OF 70 MILLION.
AND WHEREAS IN JULY, 1999, THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY LAUNCHED AN INTENSIVE NATIONWIDE PERSECUTION DESIGNED TO ERADICATE A SPIRITUAL PRACTICE OF FALUN GONG.
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF FALUN GONG PRACTITIONERS HAVE BEEN DETAINED EXTRA LEGALLY IN CHINESE RE-EDUCATION THROUGH LABOR CAMPS, DETENTION CENTERS AND PRISONS WHERE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL TORTURE IS COMMON.
WHEREAS IN JUNE, 2016, THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES UNANIMOUSLY PASSED HOUSE RESOLUTION THREE, FOUR, THREE, CONDEMNING THE SYSTEMIC STATE SANCTIONED ORGAN HARVESTING FROM PAK, FROM PRACTITIONERS OF FALUN GONG AND OTHER PRISONERS OF CONSCIENCE.
AND WHEREAS THERE HAS BEEN LITTLE MEDIA COVERAGE OF THIS YET DOZENS OF WARREN COUNTY CITIZENS PETITION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO TAKE UP THIS MATTER.
AND WHEREAS WARREN COUNTY RESIDENTS SHOULD BE FULLY INFORMED OF THE OREGON SOURCE IN CHINA BEFORE THEY MAKE THE DECISION TO ENGAGE IN OREGON TRANSPLANT TOURISM IN CHINA AND THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THAT SHOULD ASSIST IN RAISING AWARENESS IN THIS REGARD.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THAT THE RESIDENTS AND THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY SERVICING WARREN COUNTY IN THE IMMEDIATE REGION, BE INFORMED ABOUT THE RISKS OF TRAVEL TO CHINA FOR ORGAN TRANSPLANTS, TO HELP PREVENT LOCAL CITIZENS FROM BECOMING ACCOMPLICES IN STATE SPONSORED FORCED ORGAN HARVESTING FROM PRISONERS OF CONSCIENCE AND WILL PROVIDE COPIES OF THIS RESOLUTION TO THE GOVERNOR OF VIRGINIA AND THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.
CAN I MOVE THAT? THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPTED PROPOSED RESOLUTION REGARDING THE EDUCATION OF WARREN COUNTY RESIDENTS AND THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY AND THE RISK OF TRAVELING TO CHINA FOR ORGAN TRANSPLANTS.
HOW SECOND THING ROLL CALL MRS. ROCKING.
[J4. Request to Purchase a 2021 Ford Explorer for the Building Inspections Department – David Beahm]
[J5. Request to Purchase a 2021 Ford Explorer for the Planning Department – Taryn Logan]
ITEM FOUR, MR. MABE.I DID, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR IN NUMBER FIVE, BOTH OF THEM FOR THE SAME REASON.
YOU WANT TO JAM IT TOGETHER THEN? AND, UM, I DON'T OPPOSE EITHER GROUP GETTING A VEHICLE, BUT I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION AS FAR AS WHAT TYPE OF VEHICLES WE'RE USING, WHAT TYPE OF, UM, REASONING BEHIND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
THEY MAY, I DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT THAT.
SO, UM, ALL I'M ASKING US TO DO IS TO LET US GET CLOSER TO THE BUDGET SEASON BEING COMPLETE.
UH, AND THEN, UM, THEN WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION I HAVE NOT.
SO YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT WE TABLE THIS TABLE IT FOR NOW, BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY COMING OUT OF THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET.
UM, BUT THERE IS, THERE IS POSSIBILITY IF WE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING DRASTIC AND WE NEED THAT, THOSE FUNDS, IT SHOULD
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BE AVAILABLE TO US.I JUST, YOU KNOW, CLARIFY, THANK YOU.
I WAS JUST GOING TO COMMENT THAT IT IS CURRENT FUNDS EXCLUDING GENERAL, RATHER THAN IT IS NOT.
IT IS ANTICIPATION BECAUSE THOSE WILL NOT BE INCLUDED IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROPRIATED, CORRECT? I MEAN, IT'S IN THERE.
THIS MONEY IS IN THE GENERAL IS IN THE SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND RESERVE.
FOR THOSE DEPARTMENTS, YOU WILL TRANSFER THAT FROM THE SPECIAL PROJECTS TO THE GENERAL FUND THIS AND MAKE THE APPROPRIATION THIS BUDGET YEAR.
IF YOU DO THIS AND WE'LL HAVE A TRACK ON IT THAT YOU'LL, YOU'LL MAKE THE APPROPRIATIONS AGAIN.
SO IT ENDS UP BEING DONE TWICE BECAUSE OF THE FACT IT'S IN ONE FUND AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IT TO THE OTHER FUND TO SPEND IT.
WE CAN, THAT BEING SAID, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU SOME ALTERNATIVES THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT.
IF YOU WANT TO TABLE THIS TO YOUR NEXT MEETING, SIR.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO A SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHAHRAKI MR. FOX, MR. MAY MADAM CHAIR, MR. CARTER, IS IT POSSIBLE TO TAKE A QUICK RECESS? AND THEN WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF OTHER LENGTHY THINGS ON HERE, BUT IF NOT, THAT'S FINE TOO.
IS EVERYBODY AGREEABLE TO FIVE MINUTE RECESS? OKAY.
[L. Memorandum of Agreement with Town of Front Royal – Front Royal/Warren County Wayfinding Signs Award – Taryn Logan]
2018 WARREN COUNTY AND THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL CONTRACTOR WITH FRAZIER AND ASSOCIATES TO DESIGN A WAY FINDING SCIENCE SYSTEM FOR, UM, ART COMMUNITY.I, I DID A PRESENTATION LAST WEEK AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WORK SESSION.
THE WAYFINDING SIGN PROGRAM WAS A PRIORITY OF THE COUNTY AND TOWN.
WHEN, WHEN THE JOINT TOURISM COMMITTEE WAS FORMED IN 2017, UM, WE'VE WORKED THROUGH 2019, UM, WHEN THE LIST OF DESTINATIONS AND THE SIGNS WHERE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT OF CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, UM, MAKING AN ACCORDANCE WITH
UM, STAFF WILL BE WORKING WITH THAT THROUGHOUT THE INSTALLATION PROCESS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF THEIR REGULATIONS.
THE TOWN HAS BED, THE TRAILBLAZING SIGNS PORTION OF THE PROGRAM.
THE COUNTY'S CALLS FOR THE 18 TRAILBLAZING SIGNS, UM, IN THE COUNTY WILL BE $84,900.
UM, THE TOWN WOULD BE, UM, COVERING THEIR COSTS FOR THE 37, 12 TRAILBLAZING SIGNS LOCATED IN THE TOWN.
UM, THE DEADLINE TO USE THEIR GRANT FUNDING, UM, THROUGH THE CDBG GRANT THEY HAVE AS QUICKLY APPROACHING.
SO IN YOUR PACKETS, DO YOU HAVE A PROPOSED MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN, FOR THE WAYFINDING SIGNS AWARD? UM, THE MEMORANDUM LIST OF RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE TALENT AND COUNTY.
AND, UM, WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH THE ONE CONTRACTOR FOR THE SIGNS, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE FABRICATION, THE SCIENCE TO BE COHESIVE.
UM, THE COUNTY'S COST WOULD COME FROM THE SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND, WHICH HAS BEEN SET ASIDE FOR THE PAST.
UM, PROBABLY ABOUT THREE YEARS SINCE THE COUNTY BEGAN COLLECTING, UM, THE ADDITIONAL 3% TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX AND FISCAL YEAR, 2017, 2018.
WE'VE HAD A WAYFINDING, UM, PROJECTS FUND, UM, IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS PROJECT HAPPENING.
UM, AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, UM, MS. JORDAN HAS REVIEWED THE, UM, MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT.
SHE HAD HAD SOME CHANGES AND HAD SUBMITTED THEM BACK TO THE TOWN AND THAT THE FINAL AGREEMENT IS IN YOUR PACKETS.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, UM, I DID JUST INCLUDE A FEW OF THE SLIDES THAT SHOW THE TRAILBLAZER SIGNS AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, IF I MAY.
UM, AND THERE AGAIN, I'M SORRY, I MISSED THE LAST MEETING.
I DID WATCH PART OF IT ON YOU TO VIDEO STREAM, WHATEVER.
AND, UH, I COULD ACTUALLY HEAR MOST OF IT, UM, AND GOT MY HEARING AID, BUT I THINK HE HAD SOMETHING IN HERE ABOUT THE EXISTING SIGN.
WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE.
IS THIS GOING TO REPLACE THOSE? OKAY.
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AND SOME OTHER, UM, WITH V DOT, THERE ARE SOME THAT HAVE TO BE REMOVED IN ORDER FOR THESE TO BE ALLOWED.I JUST DIDN'T KNOW HER SAVINGS OR WHATEVER, CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S SOME PLACE THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
I'M NOT SURE SO MUCH IN THE COUNTY, BUT THEY HAVE THEM AND THEY LOOK LIKE SIMILAR.
THEY, THERE ARE, VIETNAM HAS A LOT OF NEW, UM, REQUIREMENTS FOR THEY'VE THEY'VE SINCE DEVELOPED THIS PROGRAM.
THEY DID NOT HAVE IT WHEN WE FIRST DID THOSE SIGNS.
UM, SO THERE'S A CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE SIGNS YOU REALLY CAN'T EVEN READ.
UM, AND THERE, SO THERE'S NEW STANDARDS THAT THE SIGNS WILL MEET.
UM HMM, NO, DURING THE WORK SESSION AND MR. MAYVILLE BROUGHT UP, UM, JUST TO REITERATE, JUST SO FOLKS KNOW THAT WE CANNOT DIRECT TOURISTS TO SPECIFIC BUSINESSES.
IT'S JUST ASKED TO BE SHOWN GENERAL DIRECTIONS AND THE WHOLE THING LIKE THAT.
SO I GUESS THAT'S IN THE INTEREST OF FAIRNESS AND IN THOSE THINGS, RIGHT, THERE ARE CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT, THAT CAN ONLY BE ON THE SIGNS, DIFFERENT TOURISM DESTINATIONS, AND THEY HAVE TO FIT INTO THE VITAS CATEGORY.
THANK YOU, MS. LOGAN, IN THE SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND, THE ENTIRE AMOUNT IS THERE FOR THIS PROJECT, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
AND WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE MORE CATEGORIES, UM, AND THE TOURISM, UM, SPECIAL PROJECTS BECAUSE THEY, THAT MONEY CAN ONLY GO TO TOURISM PROJECTS.
UM, THAT'S JUST ACCORDING TO STATE AND LOCAL CHOIRS THAT ANY MONEY WE TAKE IN FROM OCCUPANCY HAS TO BE SPENT ON.
THE 3%, THE 2% WE GET, WE CAN SPEND IT.
HOWEVER, WE WANT 5% ADDITIONAL THAT WE GOT APPROVAL FROM THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, THAT ESTIMATE THAT'S EARMARKED SPECIFICALLY FOR TOURISM RELATED ACTIVITIES.
IS THERE A TIMELINE FOR THIS? I MEAN, AS FAR AS, WHEN WILL WE START SEEING SIGNS BEING PUT UP? UM, THE FABRICATION IS, UM, THAT'LL BE AROUND THREE TO FOUR MONTHS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD.
AND SO WE HOPE TO HAVE, UM, SIGN INSTALLATION BY LATE SUMMER.
SO I WOULD SAY JULY OR AUGUST IS OUR GOAL.
BEFORE THE PEAK SEASON IN OCTOBER, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO MAYBE GET LIKE A SANDWICH BOARD AND HAVE JOE WALK UP AND DOWN THE STREET? MAYBE NOT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION, IF NOT, DO I HAVE MOTION? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUTHORIZED OF THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN WARREN COUNTY AND THE TOWN OF FRONT ROW FOR THE FRONT ROW, WARREN KAY WARREN COUNTY FONT WAYFINDING SIGN AWARD ROLL CALL MRS. SHIRAKI.
HI, MR. MABE, MR. FOX APPROVAL
[M. Approval of the FY 2019-2020 Audit – Keith McLiverty]
OF THE FYI 2019 2020 AUDIT MR. MCCULLOUGH LIBERTY I'M CHAIRING BOARD.UH, THE AUDIT WAS PRESENTED LAST WEEK.
DALEY GAVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE.
UH, WE CAN, WE CAN, UH, AGREE WITH ALL OF THEM.
THE MANAGEMENT FINDINGS WE'VE COMMENCED IMPLEMENTATION, UH, AND WE EXPECT TO, UH, NOW TAKE THE ADJUSTING JOURNAL ENTRIES AND GET UP TO DATE WITH THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO YOU WITH MORE TRANSFERS ON A REGULAR BASIS AND PROPOSE A PLAN, UH, FOR THE BUDGET ADOPTION TO INCLUDE ALL OF THE FUNDS, NOT JUST THE GENERAL FUND.
SO WE DO ACCEPT THE AUDIT AND ITS, AND ITS FINDINGS.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? DO I HAVE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE FISCAL YEAR 2019 2020 AUDIT AS PRESENTED.
IS THERE A SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MR. FOX, MR. MABE, MADAM CHAIR.
[N. Request – Adoption of a Resolution Authorizing the Issuance of School Refunding Bonds – Ted Cole, Davenport & Company]
ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF SCHOOL REFUNDING BONDS.[02:05:05]
WELL, MR. COLE WAS COMING UP AND WE NOTICE YOU HAVE A COFFEE WITH HIM.SEE, EVENING THE LATEST NUMBERS.
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.
UM, FOLLOWING UP ON THE DISCUSSION, WE HAD A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AT YOUR WORK SESSION, UM, ON THE REFUNDING OF THE REMAINING 2014 SPECIAL OBLIGATION BONDS THAT WERE ISSUED THROUGH THE VIRGINIA PUBLIC SCHOOL AUTHORITY.
UM, THIS IS AN UPDATE ON CURRENT MARKET.
AS OF, UM, LATE LAST WEEK, THERE ARE PAGE NUMBERS IN THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER.
UM, AND YOU WILL SEE HOPEFULLY MAYBE YOU'RE STARTING TO GET FAMILIAR WITH THE SETUP HERE.
PAGE ONE GIVES AN OVERVIEW OF THE, OUR CURRENT MARKET ESTIMATES FOR THIS REFUNDING.
AND AS A BRIEF REMINDER, WE ARE, UM, CONSIDERING, OR YOU ALL ARE CONSIDERING REFUNDING THE REMAINING MATURITIES OF THOSE 2014 BONDS THAT WERE NOT REFUNDED LAST FALL.
WE DID SOME OF THEM LAST FALL, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM.
UM, APPROXIMATELY 20 MILLION ARE REMAINING THAT ARE ELIGIBLE TO BE REFUNDED.
UM, THOSE ARE BONDS THAT MATURE FROM 2025 TO 2028, 2031 TO 2033 AND 2037 TO 2039.
SO IT'S A LITTLE CHOPPY, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE BACK IN THE FALL WE TOOK CERTAIN MATURITIES OUT.
SO THIS WOULD, UM, IF YOU DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD, BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PICK UP SOME OF THE REMAINING MATURITIES.
UM, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, UM, GOING THROUGH THE VIRGINIA PUBLIC SCHOOL AUTHORITY, UM, YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR PAYMENT DATES ARE SET BY THAT PROGRAM.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT EXTENDING THE DEBT OR SHORTENING THE DEBT.
UM, THESE BONDS ARE CURRENTLY CALLABLE, MEANING THEY CAN BE TAKEN FROM THE CURRENT BOND HOLDERS NO EARLIER THAN JULY OF 2024.
SO AS A RESULT, THIS IS WHAT WE CALL AN ADVANCE REFUNDING, WHERE IF WE MOVE FORWARD, WE WOULD BORROW THE MONEY THROUGH VPN.
THIS SPRING, THAT MONEY WOULD BE INVESTED IN AN ESCROW SPECIFIC TO THE 2014 BONDS SIZE TO THE PENNY.
UM, THERE'D BE AN INVESTED IN US TREASURIES.
AND THEN THE 2014 BONDS WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE DEFEASE.
YOU WOULD NOT NEED TO PAY THE DEBT ON BONDS GOING FORWARD.
AND WHEN THE CALL DATE COMES 2024, THERE'S ENOUGH MONEY IN THAT ESCROW TO PAY OFF THOSE CURRENT BOND HOLDERS.
SO IT'S AN ADVANCED REFUNDING, WHICH UNDER CURRENT TAX LAW MEANS THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE ON A TAXABLE BASIS RATHER THAN TAX EXEMPT.
AND WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
UM, ARE THERE, COULD THERE BE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO TAX EXEMPT REFUNDINGS IN THE FUTURE POTENTIALLY IF LEGISLATION IS RE-INTRODUCED OR IS INTRODUCED, THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT TYPE OF TRANSACTION, UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT WILL, UM, BE APPROVED AND IF, AND WHEN IT WOULD BE APPROVED OR YOU COULD WAIT UNTIL 20, 24 TO DO THIS TRANSACTION ON A TAX EXEMPT BASIS.
SO, UM, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, CURRENTLY, UM, WE ARE JUST UNDER 5% PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING ON PAGE ONE LINES, 15, 16, AND 17, THIS IS SORT OF THE RESULTS OR THE ESTIMATED RESULTS OF THE CURRENT MARKET.
UM, CURRENT MARKET IS ON A TAXABLE BASIS GIVING YOU ABOUT 4.8% PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS, WHICH IN DOLLARS IS ABOUT 1.17 MILLION IN WHAT WE CALL GROSS SAVINGS OR ON A PRESENT VALUE BASIS ABOUT $980,000 ON A BUDGETARY BASIS.
IT'S THE FAR RIGHT COLUMN THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT.
62, $63,000 A YEAR IS WHAT WOULD BE RECOGNIZED IN DEBT SERVICE SAVINGS NETTED OUT OF THIS TRANSACTION ACCOUNTING FOR ISSUANCE COSTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
VPSS DOES NOT SELL THEIR BONDS UNTIL APRIL 20TH.
SO WE WOULD BE FLOATING WITH THE MARKET UNTIL THAT TIME.
UM, WE HAVE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPTICK IN RATES, PARTICULARLY IN THE TAXABLE MARKET.
WE'VE SEEN US TREASURY RATES, UM, HAVE BEEN MOVING HIGHER IN, IN SOME CASES FAIRLY SUBSTANTIALLY, UM, FROM, UM, EARLIER IN THE CALENDAR YEAR, UH, DRIVEN BY ANY NUMBER OF FACTORS, UM, YOU KNOW, IMPROVING NEWS, UM, IN THE ECONOMY, PROVING NEWS AND COVID-19 TRENDS VACCINATIONS, AND MORE RECENTLY WITH STIMULUS.
UM, BUT THIS REFLECTS CURRENT MARKET AS OF LATE LAST WEEK.
AND THUS FAR IT'S BEEN A PRETTY QUIET WEEK.
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PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS IS, UM, IN THE RANGE OF WHAT IS OFTENTIMES CONSIDERED TO BE, UH, A MINIMUM THRESHOLD OF THREE TO 5% PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS.IT'S NOT A RULE, IT'S NOT A POLICY, BUT IT IS SORT OF A, AN INDUSTRY BENCHMARK.
SO ACHIEVING, PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS AT A MINIMUM OF THREE TO 5% IS OFTENTIMES, UM, DISCUSSED AS SORT OF A MINIMUM LEVEL OF SAVINGS.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE SORT OF ON THE HIGHER END OF RANGE CURRENTLY.
UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT PAGE TWO, WE'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF A SENSITIVITY ANALYSIS.
UM, WE'VE GOT DIFFERENT COLUMNS HERE, COLUMN B AS IN BOY, THERE IS THE CURRENT MARKET.
SO WE'RE JUST RESTATING THAT FOR YOU.
AND THEN COLUMN C IS WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SAVINGS.
IF INTEREST RATES GO UP BY 10 BASIS POINTS OR 0.1%, AND YOU CAN SEE THE SAVINGS GO DOWN, UM, COLUMN D WHAT HAPPENS IF INTEREST RATES GO DOWN BY 10 BASIS POINTS THE SAVINGS GO UP, UM, AND THEN WE'VE SHOWN UNDER COLUMN E AND F THE POTENTIAL OUTCOMES OF WAITING.
UM, IF INTEREST RATES STAY AT THEIR CURRENT LEVEL.
SO WE'VE PICKED MAY OF 20, 23, SO WAITING A COUPLE OF YEARS TO DO THIS.
IF INTEREST RATES STAY WHERE THERE ARE, WHERE THEY ARE, YOU CAN SEE THOSE SAVINGS COULD BE UP AROUND 140,000 A YEAR.
UM, IF WE WAIT UNTIL THE CALL DATE IN 2024, AT WHICH POINT WE COULD DO THIS TAX EXEMPT, IF RATES STAY WHERE THEY ARE, WE'RE IN THE $290,000 RANGE PER YEAR, OR ALMOST THREE AND A HALF MILLION IN TOTAL.
SO THIS SORT OF GETS TO THE TOUGH QUESTION OF THIS WHOLE THING IS, IS NOW THE RIGHT TIME TO DO THIS.
COULD WE WAIT AND DO BETTER POSSIBLY? UM, I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF GOOD GUIDANCE FOR YOU THERE THERE'S, UH, IT'S HINDSIGHT WILL BE 2020 ON THIS.
WHEN WE SORT OF LOOK BACK AND FIGURE OUT WHEN WOULD HAVE BEEN THE OPPORTUNE TIME TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS REFUNDING AND ADD INTO THE MIX, THE, UM, THE POTENTIAL FOR TAX LAW CHANGES.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE BETTER OPPORTUNITIES TO, UM, JUST TAKE ADVANTAGES IN THE FUTURE, BUT, UM, WE BELIEVE IT'S A VIABLE TRANSACTION TO CONSIDER.
IF YOU DECIDE YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD, IT SORT OF CHECKS ALL THE BOXES THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY LOOK AT TO SAY, IS THIS A, A TRANSACTION THAT MAKES SENSE? DO WE, ARE WE COMFORTABLE SHARING THIS WITH YOU ALL AND PRESENTING IT? UM, AND THE ANSWER IS YES.
I MEAN, I THINK ABSOLUTELY IT DOES, DOES NOT MEAN YOU COULDN'T DO BETTER BY WAITING.
UM, THERE IS A RESOLUTION FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER.
UM, AND WITHIN THAT RESOLUTION, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PARAMETERS.
ONE OF THOSE PARAMETERS IS WE DON'T WANT TO ISSUE, UM, DEBT ABOVE X.
WELL, WE WON'T, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF CUSHION IN THAT NUMBER.
I THINK THE NUMBER IS 24 MILLION.
WE'RE ONLY IF YOU MOVE FORWARD, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO ISSUE AS MUCH DEBT AS YOU NEED TO REFUND.
UM, ANOTHER PARAMETER IS WE DON'T WANT THE TERM OF THE DEBT TO BE BEYOND A CERTAIN DATE, AND IT WON'T BE, IT'S GOING TO BE MATCHED MATURITY.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO EXTEND THE PAYMENTS AND THE THIRD AND PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANT PARAMETER IN THAT RESOLUTION IS A MINIMUM SAVINGS THRESHOLD.
AND SO WE, WE DO, WE'VE INCLUDED THAT AS A NET PRESENT VALUE PERCENTAGE AND AS A MINIMUM, AND WHAT WHAT'S IN THERE RIGHT NOW IN BRACKETS IS 3% NET PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS.
SO WE'RE ABOVE THAT CURRENTLY, BUT YOU CAN SEE, UH, AN INCREASE IN 10 TO 15, MAYBE 20 BASIS POINTS.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET CLOSER TO THAT, THAT MINIMUM THRESHOLD, A 3% SAVINGS TRANSACTION WOULD YIELD ABOUT $40,000 A YEAR OR $725,000 IN TOTAL FOR A LITTLE BIT OF PERSPECTIVE.
UM, YOU CAN AMEND THAT PARAMETER IF YOU WANT TO, YOU COULD CONSIDER PUTTING IT INTO A HIGHER LEVEL IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT.
UM, AND I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE PARAMETER WOULD, WOULD WORK, HOW THE RESOLUTION WOULD, WOULD WORK.
UM, ACTUALLY I WANT TO COVER PAGE THREE REAL QUICK, QUICKLY, UM, ON PAGE THREE, WE'RE SHOWING YOU THE MATURITIES THAT ARE ELIGIBLE TO BE REFUNDED, AND THAT SUMS UP TO THAT ROUGHLY $20 MILLION.
UM, AND YOU'LL SEE EITHER BY THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS OR THE PERCENTAGES THAT SOME OF THESE MATURITIES ARE CREATING OR GENERATING MORE SAVINGS THAN OTHERS.
GENERALLY THOSE THAT ARE TOWARDS THE END OF THE, THE AMORTIZATION SCHEDULE ARE WORKING BETTER.
UM, THE PARAMETER THAT'S IN THE RESOLUTION, AND LET'S SAY, YOU, YOU, YOU DECIDE TO CONSIDER APPROVING THE RESOLUTION AND YOU LEAVE IT AT 3% SAVINGS.
WHAT THAT PARAMETER IS SAYING IS IF,
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IF YOU CAN ACHIEVE 3% NET PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS, OR GREATER FOR ALL OF THESE MATURITIES COMBINED, THEN YOU WOULD BE MOVING FORWARD.UM, IF WE ARE UNABLE TO ACHIEVE 3% SAVINGS FOR ALL OF THESE COMBINED, YOU ARE UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO MOVE FORWARD.
UM, BUT YOU COULD PICK AND CHOOSE, RIGHT.
THE, THE TEST IN THE, UH, IN THE, UM, IN THE RESOLUTION IS IF, IF WE DON'T ACHIEVE 3% SAVINGS IN THE AGGREGATE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD.
IF WE DETERMINED THAT WE CAN PICK A HANDFUL OF THE MATURITIES AND GET TO 3% OR GREATER, YOU ARE ABLE TO MAKE THAT DECISION, BUT YOU AREN'T REQUIRED TO DO THAT.
THE VIRGINIA PUBLIC SCHOOL AUTHORITY, WE HAD A, WE HAD A PRETTY DETAILED DISCUSSION WITH THEM ABOUT THIS.
WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT SAVINGS PARAMETER MINIMUM, LET'S SAY 3%.
THEY WILL ONLY, UM, THEY'LL ONLY ENFORCE IT IF YOU WILL, IF WE MEET THAT, THAT MINIMUM THRESHOLD IN THE AGGREGATE.
AND IF WE DO NOT, YOU'RE UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO MOVE FORWARD.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, BUT YOU COULD CHOOSE ON THE DAY OF SALE, WHICH IS APRIL 20TH.
IF WE CAN ACHIEVE 3% SAVINGS IN THE AGGREGATE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK WITH STAFF TO SAY, LOOK, WE CAN PICK UP THE LAST SIX MATURITIES AND GET TO 4% SAVINGS OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER MIGHT BE.
AND YOU WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO, TO, TO DO THAT TRANSACTION IF YOU CHOOSE TO, BUT YOU WON'T BE OBLIGATED TO DO THAT.
THE SAVINGS PARAMETER IS, IS ASSOCIATED WITH ALL OF THESE MATURITIES ON A COMBINED BASIS.
SO IT DOES GIVE YOU SOME PROTECTION THAT IF WE CAN'T ACHIEVE IT, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT MOVING FORWARD, BUT WE CAN, AT THAT POINT IN TIME, CHERRY PICK SOME BETTER MATURITIES, DO A SMALLER TRANSACTION THAT WILL ACHIEVE OUR MINIMUM THRESHOLD OR GREATER, BUT THAT WILL BE COMPLETELY DISCRETIONARY FOR YOU ALL TO DO THAT ON THE SALE DATE.
UM, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE THIS TIME.
UH, MR. MABE, LAST TIME WE WERE NOT THE ONLY TAXABLE ENTITY.
SO IF WE HAD WANTED TO WITHDRAW, THEY WERE MUCH MORE FLEXIBLE AND AMENABLE TO ALLOWING US TO DO THAT.
IF WE DID NOT LIKE THE SAVINGS, IF THE NUMBER IN THIS RESOLUTION IS 3%, IF THEY CAN, IF WE CAN REACH THAT 3%, WE DON'T HAVE THE OPTION THEN OF WITHDRAWING BECAUSE WE ARE THE ONLY TAXABLE ENTITY IN THIS ISSUE.
SO THAT MAKES IT DIFFERENT, BUT YOU CAN'T, YOU HAVE TO DO IT ALL OR NOT AT ALL.
IF, IF WE'RE OVER THREE, IF WE'RE UNDER 3%, WE MIGHT WANT TO PICK AND CHOOSE, LIKE WE DID THIS LAST TIME, BUT IF WE'RE AT 3% OR ABOVE, THEN WE GOT TO TAKE THEM.
SO IF THERE'S THREE POINT, ONE ENDS UP BEING WHERE WE ARE.
AND SO THE SAVINGS IS 40,000 AND SOME CHANGE EACH YEAR, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THE DEAL.
I THINK I, I THINK I MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT PAGE THREE AND LET'S SAY THAT THE RESOLUTION SAID 5% PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS RIGHT NOW, THIS DEAL WOULD NOT QUALIFY, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE 4.86.
SO IF YOU HAD ESTABLISHED 5%, AND THIS IS WHERE IT CAME IN ON APRIL 20TH, YOU DO NOT HAVE, THIS WILL NOT TAKE PLACE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HIT 5%.
UNLESS YOU DECIDE THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE THOSE LAST THREE MATURITIES, WHICH YOU, THE COUNTY CAN DO AT THEIR DISCRETION THAT DAY, IN WHICH CASE YOU'RE GOING TO BE PROBABLY CLOSER TO, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL, YOU'LL BE ABOVE 5%, BUT I MEAN, WHEN YOU, THEORETICALLY, WOULDN'T YOU TAKE 20, 26 AND 37 38 AND 39.
I MEAN, EVERYTHING ELSE, THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD.
THAT'S ANOTHER POTENTIAL OUTCOME TO GET ABOVE 5%.
AND SO, BUT THE POINT IS THEY WILL NOT REQUIRE YOU TO MOVE FORWARD ON APRIL 20TH, IF IN THE AGGREGATE THAT BOTTOM LINE, PRESENT VALUE PERCENTAGE, DOESN'T MEET WHAT STATED IN THE RESOLUTION, BUT YOU WILL MAINTAIN THE ABILITY TO PICK OUT BETTER MATURITIES TO GET ABOVE YOUR THRESHOLD AND STILL MOVE FORWARD, BUT THAT WILL BE COMPLETELY AT YOUR DISCRETION, BUT WOULDN'T THAT BE A BETTER DEAL FOR THE,
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I THINK THAT DOES CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALL BE AT A SMALLER TRANSACTION.YOU'RE ACHIEVING THAT SAVINGS THRESHOLD.
WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE CLEAR ON, UM, BECAUSE IT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM LAST TIME WE WERE IN A, UH, A VERY LARGE TRANSACTION LAST TIME.
AND IF THE COUNTY HAD JUST DECIDED TO DROP OUT ENTIRELY, IT WOULD NOT HAVE IMPACTED THEIR SALE IN ANY REAL MEANINGFUL WAY.
SO THEY WERE ABLE TO GIVE YOU ALL AND OTHERS MORE FLEXIBILITY.
BUT IN THIS CASE, WE WANTED TO BE VERY CLEAR WITH THEM.
UM, WHAT'S IN THAT RESOLUTION WILL DRIVE THE DECISION OF WHERE W WHETHER WE'RE IN OR OUT, NOT SOME OTHER SORT OF, UM, MORE SUBJECTIVE DECISION POINT.
AND, AND, AND SO WE WANTED TO REALLY EMPHASIZE THAT THIS GO ROUND, THAT THE PARAMETER IN THAT RESOLUTION WILL DRIVE WHETHER WE'RE IN OR OUT, UNLESS WE CAN IMPROVE ON IT BY DROPPING SOME MATURITIES, WHICH YOU WOULD ONLY DO IF YOU WANTED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKE THAT NEXT STEP.
SO, WOULD IT MAKE MORE SENSE FOR US TO DO A THRESHOLD OF FOUR? EXACTLY.
I WAS GOING TO SAY 4%, WHICH WOULD GIVE US LATITUDE WITH THAT.
I THINK THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BETTER OPTION THERE.
I JUST AM SKEPTICAL OF WHAT THE MARKET WILL DO IN THE NEXT MONTH.
AND I WOULD FEEL A LITTLE BETTER THAT IT PUTS YOUR SAVINGS APPROXIMATELY 50,000.
I HAVEN'T DONE THE CALCULATION, BUT I HAD 40 WRITTEN DOWN OVER HERE BEFORE TED.
SO I FIGURED FOUR IS GOING TO BE ABOUT 50,000, A LITTLE BIT LESS, 48, 49.
AND IF SOME OF THESE DROPOUTS, SO BE IT.
SO WE NEED TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION WITH THAT THRESHOLD TONIGHT.
BRETT, IF YOU WANT TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION THAT I WOULD ADMIT, I WOULD RECOMMEND AMENDING IT TO 4%.
AND IF THAT IS WHAT YOU ALL ULTIMATELY DECIDE TO DO, THAT WILL BE THE, THE, THE ONLY ACTION NECESSARY.
UM, THE SCHOOL BOARD WILL CONSIDER, UH, A SIMPLE RESOLUTION TOMORROW THAT AUTHORIZES THEIR OFFICERS TO, UM, EXECUTE DOCUMENTS.
IF THIS TRANSACTION OCCURS, UM, AT WHICH POINT WE WILL, THEN, IF THIS IS HOW IT ALL COMES TOGETHER, WE WOULD HAVE WHAT WE NEED TO SUBMIT TO THE PSA.
AND, UM, THAT'S DUE BY APRIL 1ST, I BELIEVE.
AND THEN, UM, IT WILL BE IN A POSITION TO KEEP STAFF ABREAST OF ESTIMATES GOING TO APRIL 20TH.
UM, AND IF WE, IF WE DETERMINE IN CONJUNCTION WITH YOUR STAFF IN CONJUNCTION WITH VPSA, THAT RATES HAVE MOVED TO A POINT WHERE IT'S JUST NOT ACHIEVABLE.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN VPN CAN DO THAT ANALYSIS AND SAY, LOOK, WE REALLY DON'T THINK WE NEED TO SELL, TRY TO SELL THESE BONDS ON APRIL 20TH.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HIT OUR MARK.
AND WE JUST SET IT TO THE SIDE.
AND PERHAPS THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT, BUT WE'LL KEEP YOU CURRENT THROUGH STAFF ON KIND OF WHAT THE MARKET'S DOING AND WHERE WE SEE THE ESTIMATED SAVINGS.
SO IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, IF THERE'S A SET OF 3% AND OVER THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE IT.
IF IT'S SET AT 4% AND DIDN'T QUITE MAKE IT, WE WOULD BE RELIEVED OR WHATEVER, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF IT CAME IN AT 3.9 AND WE STILL HAVE THAT OPTION, IF IT'S, IF, IF THE, IF THE, IF THE PARAMETER IS 4%, IT COMES BACK AT 3.9.
IF IT COMES BACK AT 3.9 IN THE AGGREGATE, WE, WE REALLY HAVE NOT HIT THE PARAMETER.
UM, BUT WE COULD PROBABLY GET THERE BY DROPPING SOME OF THE WEAKER MATURITIES.
AND I, AND I THINK WHAT GOING INTO THAT, I THINK WE'D WANT, UM, YOU KNOW, MR. DALEY TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A COMFORT LEVEL WITH, WITH MAKING THAT DECISION AS WE GET TO THE SALE DATE WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH CONSULTATION WITH THE CHAIR OR HOWEVER THAT MIGHT WORK, WE DID LAST TIME, WHAT WE DID.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DID IN THE FALL.
IT WAS, WAS IT 4% IN THE FALL? I BELIEVE FIVE, 5% IN THE FALL, FALL.
AND SO THAT WAS THE REASON WE CHERRY PICKED.
WHICH LEFT SOME OF THESE THAT WE'RE HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A WAY TO CLEAN THOSE UP.
AND I THINK WE ENDED UP IN THE FALL PROBABLY CLOSER TO SIX WITH THE ONES THAT WE DECIDED TO KEEP IN.
AND THEN THE BALANCE IS TO LEAVE ENOUGH IN THE SALE TO PAY THE COST OF ISSUANCE, RIGHT.
WHILE ALSO TAKING, PULLING ENOUGH OUT TO MOVE THE RETURN
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HIGHER SO THAT WE DO BETTER.AND THERE'S A BALANCE IN THERE.
YEAH, THERE'S A, THERE'S A, THERE'S A POINT AT WHICH A TRANSACTION THAT MIGHT HIT FOUR OR 5% PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS JUST ISN'T REALLY GENERATING ANY REAL DOLLAR VALUE TO YOU.
THAT'S IN A, A MEANINGFUL OPPORTUNITY.
IT MAY MAKES SENSE TO PUNT, UM, AND LOOK AT IT AT ANOTHER TIME.
BUT WE'LL, I THINK AT THE 4%, IF THAT'S WHERE YOU END UP, I THINK THAT GIVES US SOME LATITUDE TO, UM, WITHSTAND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL MARKET EROSION AND STILL BE A MEANINGFUL TRANSACTION IN TERMS OF SAVINGS IN DOLLARS.
WELL, I'LL MOVE THAT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION, AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF A GENERAL OBLIGATION SCHOOL.
ONE OF THE COUNTY OF WARREN, VIRGINIA, TO BE SOLD TO THE VIRGINIA PUBLIC SCHOOL AUTHORITY AND PROVIDING FOR THE FORMER DETAILS THEREOF AT A 4% RATE.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND WE'LL CALL MRS. SHIRAKI MR. CARTER, MS. OATS, MADAM CHAIR.
[O. Closed Session – Section 2.2-3711(A)(1) of the Virginia Freedom of Information Act Personnel re: Economic Development Authority Board of Directors and the Parks and Recreation Commission]
CLOSE SESSION.I MOVED THE BOARD ENTER INTO A CLOSED MEETING UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION TWO DOT TWO DASH THREE SEVEN ONE ONE A ONE OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT FOR THE DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ASSIGNMENT, APPOINTMENT, PROMOTION, PERFORMANCE, DEMOTION SALARIES, AND RESIGNATION OF A SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICER OF THE PUBLIC BODY.
I FURTHER MOVE THAT THE DISCUSSION BE LIMITED TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND THE WARREN COUNTY PARKS AND REC COMMISSION, AND THAT THE BOARD ENTERED INTO A CLOSED MEETING UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION TWO DOT TWO DASH THREE SEVEN ONE ONE EIGHT FOUR OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE PRIVACY OF INDIVIDUALS AND PERSONNEL MATTERS.
NOT PERSONAL MATTERS, NOT RELATED TO PUBLIC BUSINESS AND UNDER SECTION TWO DOT TWO DASH THREE SEVEN ONE ONE EIGHT OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT FOR CONSULTATIONS LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING LEGAL ADVICE RELATED TO THE SAME.
IS THERE A SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MR. FOX, MR. MABE, MADAM CHAIR.
AM I GOING TO BE ATTENDING? OKAY.
WE WILL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION.
I MOVE THAT THE BOARD CERTIFIES TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER SECTIONS TWO DOT TWO DASH THREE SEVEN ONE ONE A ONE, A FOUR AND EIGHT, EIGHT OF THE VIRGINIA OF FREEDOM, THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVENED WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING BY THE PUBLIC BODY ROLL CALL.
OR IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS HEARING? NONE.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MADAM CHAIRMAN.