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[A. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America]
MORNING, EVERYONE.SO I THINK WE'LL START WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE BEFORE WE GET THE MEETING STARTED.
IF YOU WOULD ALL STAY IN PLACE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE ROLE.
HEY, AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TO THE MAY 4TH, 2021, UH, 9:00 AM MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
AND AT THIS TIME, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA AS, OR IS THERE ANY
[B. Adoption of Agenda - Additions or Deletions]
ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS, EXCUSE ME TO THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED, IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED? IS THERE A SECOND AND WELCOME MS. HAYES TO BE WITH US THIS MORNING? D CAN YOU DO A ROLL CALL PLEASE? OKAY.[C. Presentation - Resolutions of Appreciation for Information Technology (IT) Support]
LIKE TO PRESENT A RESOLUTION OF APPRECIATION FOR THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY SUPPORT THAT WE HAD DURING OUR, UM, MARCH IT, UH, EPISODE AND THE, WE HAVE TWO RESOLUTIONS AND I'LL READ THOSE, UH, WHEREAS THE COUNTY OF WARREN, LIKE MANY OTHER LOCALITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY WAS A VICTIM OF A CYBER SECURITY INCIDENT IN MARCH OF 2021.AND WHEREAS IT WAS NECESSARY TO ASSESS THE IMPACT OF THE INCIDENT AND WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE CYBER INSURANCE PROVIDER.
AND WHEREAS THE CYBER SECURITY FORENSIC TEAM WAS ENGAGED TO INVESTIGATE THIS INCIDENT AS WELL AS SYSTEM NETWORK AND SOFTWARE ENGINEERS TO RESTORE SERVICES, BOLSTER, CYBER SECURITY, AND BUILD OUT THE COUNTY'S INFORMATION, TECHNOLOGY IT INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND WHEREAS WARREN COUNTY HAD A LIMITED AMOUNT OF STAFF TO AVAIL STAFF AVAILABLE TO COMPLETE THIS WORK.
AND WHEREAS THIS TEAM WAS SUPPLEMENTED BY STAFF FROM FREDERICK COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY WHO VOLUNTEERED THEIR TIME FOR WARREN COUNTY.
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
SO THE COUNTY OF WARREN VIRGINIA EXTENDS ITS SINCERE GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION TO SCOTT VARNER, PATRICK FLY SAMUEL CHESHIRE, ANDREW FARRIER, AND JOSE.
I'M NOT SURE HOW TO PRONOUNCE TO ROHELIO FROM FREDERICK COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY FOR THE TIME THEY EACH VOLUNTEERED AND THE EXPERTISE THEY PROVIDED TO ASSIST A NEIGHBORING JURISDICTION.
THE SECOND RESOLUTION, WHEREAS THE COUNTY OF WARREN, LIKE MANY OTHER LOCALITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY WAS THE VICTIM OF A CYBER SECURITY INCIDENT IN MARCH OF 2021.
AND WHEREAS TIM BRANT AND HIS STAFF QUICKLY TOOK ACTION TO MANAGE THE POTENTIAL EFFECTS STEMMING FROM THE INCIDENT AND BEGAN WORKING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE COUNTY CYBER INSURANCE PROVIDER.
AND WHEREAS A CYBER SECURITY FORENSIC TEAM WAS ENGAGED TO INVESTIGATE THIS INCIDENT AS WELL AS A SYSTEM NETWORK AND SOFTWARE ENGINEERS TO RESTORE SERVICES, BOLSTER, CYBER SECURITY, AND BUILD OUT THE COUNTY'S INFORMATION, TECHNOLOGY IT INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND WHEREAS THIS TEAM WAS SUPPLEMENTED BY THE STAFF OF THE WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.
AND WHEREAS THE STAFF OF THE WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY HAS WORKED TIRELESSLY FOR TWO MONTHS TO RESTORE AND UPGRADE THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY SERVICES OF WARREN COUNTY.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE COUNTY OF WARREN VIRGINIA EXTENDS ITS SINCERE APPRECIATION TO TIM GRANT, CHRIS GERMAN, JESSE, BUD, AND HARRY GUILFORD FROM THE WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY FOR THEIR TIME AND DEDICATION.
IT'D BE FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ALSO APPRECIATE THE CONTINUING HARD WORK OF THESE INDIVIDUALS TO RESTORE COMPLETE FUNCTIONALITY OF ALL COUNTY EMPLOYEES,
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INCLUDING THE MAG MITIGATE MIGRATION OF THE COUNTY SERVICES TO A CLOUD-BASED SYSTEM.AND WE HAVE TODAY, UH, JESSE BUDDY, CHRIS GERMAN, HATE TO PUT YOU ON THE BUTT.
I KNOW YOU GUYS PUT IN A LOT OF HOURS AND I THINK EVEN GAVE UP SOME OF YOUR EASTER HOLIDAY.
SO IT VERY MUCH APPRECIATED AND THEY'RE STILL WORKING MA'AM BETWEEN TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY THROUGH THEIR SOL.
THEY'RE STILL CONTINUING TO HELP US OUT.
UM, SO AT THIS TIME, DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS? RAISE THESE RESOLUTIONS, MADAM CHAIR, I MOVED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT THE PROPOSED RESOLUTIONS OF APPRECIATION FOR THE WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND FREDERICK COUNTY DEPARTMENT INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.
SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSIONS ON THIS BEFORE WE VOTE? ROLL CALL MRS. HAYES, MR. FOX.
AND JUST NOT TO LEAVE YOU OUT, TIM GRANT JUST WALKED IN.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[D. Public Comment Period (60 Minute Time Limit)]
AT THIS TIME IT IS PUBLIC PRESENTATION TIME.THIS IS A 60 MINUTE TIME PERIOD WHERE YOU'RE GIVEN THREE MINUTE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING THAT IS NOT PART OF A PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL COMMENTS WILL BE DIRECTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, NOT TO THE AUDIENCE, BE CONSIDERED OF YOUR FELLOW SPEAKERS.
THERE SHOULD BE NO APPLAUSE, BOOING OR OTHER AUDIBLE DISRUPTIONS TO THE PROCEEDINGS THROUGH A SHOW OF HANDS.
THE CHAIRMAN MAY ASK FOR A SHOW OF SUPPORT FOR COMMENTS MAY BEST SPEAKERS, PLACARDS POSTERS, AND OTHER MEANS OF VISUAL DISPLAY OR OF COMMENTS WILL NOT BE PERMITTED IN THE BOARD MEETING ROOM.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE INFORMATION OR MATERIALS YOU USE AS PART OF A FACTUAL PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD.
THE BOARD WILL NOT TOLERATE PERSONAL ATTACKS BY ANYONE ON ANY OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROCEEDINGS.
AND MRS. HAYES, HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? YES, PAT PAYNE.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK I'M HERE REPRESENTING MYSELF AND NO ONE ELSE AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME.
AND GOOD MORNING, BUT COULD YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND, UH, WHERE YOU LIVE? MAY I DROP THIS AT THIS POINT? MA'AM THANK YOU.
I LIVE AT ONE NINE SIX JONATHON ROAD IN LINDEN, VIRGINIA, APPLE MOUNTAIN LAKE.
I WANT TO MAKE IT PLAIN THAT I'M SPEAKING ONLY FOR MYSELF, BECAUSE I DID NOT KNOW THAT I WOULD HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY COMING UP SO QUICK.
FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO ADD MY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE IT DEPARTMENT IN A PUSH HIM BACK THEN ENCROACHMENT.
I HAVE RELATIVES IN SOFTWARE AND I KNOW HOW DAUNTING A TASK THAT CAN BE.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE BOARD IN THAT.
UH, WE GOT SOME REALLY GOOD PRESS IN THE WASHINGTON POST THIS WEEKEND, TALKING ABOUT HOW THE COUNTY HAD THE, UH, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT COOPERATE WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO FURTHER THE VACCINES TO THE PEOPLE WHO CANNOT GO OUT AND GET THEM.
AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS A WONDERFUL, RATHER GOOD LARGE ARTICLE.
NOW FROM MY PROBLEMS IN FEBRUARY, WE HAD QUITE A BIG MEETING IN THIS ROOM CONCERNING THE POSSIBILITY OF A SHEETZ OR A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE LAND ON A APPLE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL.
AT THAT TIME, UH, IT WAS DECIDED NOT TO ALLOW THAT TO GO FORWARD.
I SEE THAT IT'S BEING RECONSIDERED.
A LOT OF, UH, COMMENTS WERE MADE CONCERNING PROPERTY RIGHTS.
WELL, WE LIVE IN A CAPITALIST SOCIETY AND I BELIEVE IN PROPERTY RIGHTS, PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THEIR PROPERTY AS THEY SEE FIT.
BUT WHERE WE COME INTO TROUBLE IS WHERE WE ENCROACH ON ONE ANOTHER'S PROPERTY.
IF SOMEONE BUILDS A SHED ON MY LAND OR A FENCE IS OFF, WE CAN MOVE THAT.
WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT PRETTY EASILY AND GET THINGS RIGHT BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORS, BUT A COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT AT THE BOTTOM OF APPLE MOUNTAIN, IF THERE'S GAS, TANKS, GAS, STORAGE TANKS, AND TRAFFIC AND, UH, AIR POLLUTION.
AND THE POSSIBILITY OF WATER POLLUTION IS WHAT QUITE FRANKLY, SQUARE SCARES ME.
THE BOTH WE LIVE ON WELLS OUT THERE AND IF THE WATER IS CONTAMINATED CONTAMINATED, WE CAN'T ROLL THAT BACK.
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UNDO THAT.I MOVED TO WARREN COUNTY IN 2010.
HOPEFULLY MY LAST HOME, IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.
IT IS, UH, KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE ENCROACHMENT, IF THE WATER GOES BAD OR THERE GOES THE ENCROACHMENT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE WATER GOES BAD IS PERMANENT.
UH, MY FAMILY HAS DEEP ROOTS IN VIRGINIA.
MY FATHER WAS BORN IN MARSHALL, MY MOTHER, A NEW MARKET.
I ALWAYS FIGURED I WAS RIGHT WHERE I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.
I KNOW THE COUNTIES ALWAYS NEED REVENUE.
THEY NEED TO RUN A COUNTY, BUT I DON'T THINK THE COUNTY REVENUE WILL GO UP AS MUCH AS Y'ALL ANTICIPATE IF THERE'S A COMMERCIAL STATE, UH, ESTABLISHMENT DOWN THERE, SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE REVENUE GENERATED FROM THE OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE AREA.
AND PLUS THE PROPERTY VALUES ON APPLE MOUNTAIN ITSELF WILL GO DOWN AND THAT WILL GENERATE LESS PROPERTY TAXES.
I APOLOGIZE THAT, UH, MY REMARKS ARE NOT AS WELL ORGANIZED AS I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO BE IS ALSO A BIG RISK FOR FIRE RIGHT NOW.
OR IF THERE'S A FIRE RISK ALL THE TIME.
AND WE RELY ON TANKER TRUCKS, PUMPER TRUCKS TO HELP PUT OUT FIRES ON APPLE MOUNTAIN.
IF THERE IS A, AN INCIDENT, A FIRE INCIDENT DOWN AT THE, UM, AT THIS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OR UP ON THE HILL AND IT THINGS GET BLOCKED IS GOING TO BE VERY, VERY BAD SITUATION.
IF THE PEOPLE CAN'T, IF THE RESCUE PEOPLE CAN'T COME UP THROUGH EXIT 13, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TRY AND GET THEIR VEHICLES UP LITTLE OLD TWISTY BAT, BLACK TWIG.
AND IF IT'S A MASS, A MASS CASUALTY EVENT OR, OR A BIG HORRIBLE FOREST FIRE, NOT ONLY ARE THEY GOING TO BE COMING UP, THE REST OF US ARE GOING TO BE GOING OUT.
AND I JUST THINK THAT'S A BIG RECIPE FOR DISASTER.
MY MINUTES ARE PROBABLY UP IF YOU'VE BEEN PRETTY, PRETTY PATIENT WITH ME.
I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND GOOD DAY.
MA'AM IS ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP MRS. HAYES? WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME SECOND CALL IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY.
[E. Report - Virginia Department of Transportation - Ed Carter]
UM, OUR REPORTS IN VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, MR. CARTER MORNING, MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS, THE DOTS REPORT FOR THIS MORNING UNDER MAINTENANCE.UH, WE'VE COMPLETED SWEEPING THE BRIDGES AND INTERSECTIONS OF THE BUILDUP FROM THE WINTER AND OPERATIONS.
UH, WE'VE DEMOBILIZED CLEANED UP OUR SNOW REMOVAL EQUIPMENT.
ALTHOUGH WITH SOME OF THE TEMPERATURES WE HAD, WELL, HOPE IT WASN'T TOO EARLY.
UH, WE'VE GRADED AND APPLIED STONE TO VARIOUS NON-HARD SURFACE ROADS.
THAT'S A CONTINUING OPERATION.
WE'LL ALSO BE DOING THAT THIS MONTH, ADDING ADDITIONAL STONE, TRYING TO RECOUP EVERYTHING THAT WE, UH, WAS DAMAGED DURING THE WINTER.
WE'VE REPAIRED POTHOLES ON VARIOUS ROUTES.
WE'VE ALSO DONE RE UH, ASPHALT REPAIR ON A FAILED AREAS ALONG ROUTE FIVE 22 NORTH.
WE WILL ALSO CONTINUE WITH ASPHALT PATCHING THIS MONTH.
WE CLEANED UP DOWN TREES AND DEBRIS ALONG THE VARIOUS ROUTES, AND WE CONTINUE WITH SOME ADDITIONAL TREE TRIMMING THIS MONTH.
WE'LL BE DOING SHOULDER REPAIRS AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS, AND WE WILL START OUR FIRST CYCLE OF MOWING IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO.
WE WILL BE BRINGING IN A CONTRACTOR FOR PIPE FLUSHING OPERATIONS ON OUR CLOCK PIPES.
AND WE WILL ALSO BEGIN OUR FIRST ROUND OF DITCHING OPERATIONS WITH THE, UH, UH, DITCHING MACHINE THAT WE USED LAST YEAR.
GEI WILL BE REPLACING A PIPE, REPAIRING A SOFT SPOT ON ROUTE THREE 40.
AND, UH, WE'VE ALSO PICKED UP ADDITIONAL LITTER BAGS BY THE REGIONAL JAIL.
AND WE WILL ALSO CONTINUE TO COLLECT BAGS THIS MONTH.
UH, JUST AS A MATTER OF INTEREST, UH, IN ALL FOUR OF OUR COUNTIES AND THE EDINBURG RESIDENCY, WE PICKED UP OVER 20,000 BAGS OF TRASH ON PRIMARY SECONDARIES.
SO AT, AT A CONTRACTOR'S COST, NOT OUR LABOR COSTS, WHICH IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS, BUT IT COSTS US CONTRACTOR WISE $65,000 TODAY.
EXCUSE ME, MR. CARTER, HOW MANY BAGS OF TRASH AND
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THE AREA OVER SHANNON DOOR, FREDERICK CLARK AND WARREN OVER 20,000 BAGS.UH, BOARD ISSUES, THE HAPPY CREEK ROAD PROJECT, UH, THE, UH, CONTRACT WAS SUPPORTED THERE BEGINNING CONSTRUCTION.
UH, WE STILL HAVE SOME, SOME UNCERTAINTIES WITH THE UTILITIES.
THE, UH, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME FLAGGING OPERATIONS ON THAT ROAD.
IT WILL NOT BE CLOSED BEFORE SCHOOL IS OUT, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME MINIMAL DELAYS.
UH, THE CONTRACTOR IS GOING TO BE WATCHING OUT DURING THESE FLAGGING OPERATIONS.
IF HE SEES THE SCHOOL BUS IN LINE, THEN THEY WILL, UH, SPEED UP THE FLAGGING FOR THAT DIRECTION.
BUT THERE MAY BE SOME, SOME MINIMAL DELAYS UNTIL SCHOOL IS OUT.
HE'S GOT A BIG PUSH TO GET THIS DONE, UH, SO THAT THE ROAD'S NOT CLOSED ANY LONGER THAN WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED THE, UH, PROPOSED SCHOOL PARKING AREA THAT WE DISCUSSED ON APPLE MANOR DRIVE.
THAT IT'S A LIMBO WHEN WE WENT BACK AND WE SEARCHED OUT RIGHT AWAY, UH, FURTHER, WE FOUND THAT THE LIMITED ACCESS LINE EXTENDS MUCH FURTHER UP THAT ROAD TOWARDS APPLE MAUER THAN WE THOUGHT.
SO WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ADEQUATE ROOM TO PUT ANYTHING IN.
SO, UH, NOT WITHOUT A HUGE AMOUNT OF EXPENSE.
AND THE ABILITY TO THE JUICE WOULD NOT BE WORTH THE SQUEEZE BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC GO DOWN THERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ACTUALLY HAVE A PLACE TO GET OFF THE ROAD WOULD BE FAR LESS THAN WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED.
UH, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING, UH, HAS SUBMITTED, UH, AFTER I WROTE THIS REPORT, UH, AND I'M LOOKING AT IT NOW, UH, I PROPOSED REMARKING OF 340 AT RIVERMONT DRIVE.
AND, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT IT NOW TO OPEN BOTH THROUGH LANES AND DO AWAY WITH THE LEFT TURN LANE TO JUST TO REST AND UP THERE.
AND WHAT YOU'RE STUDYING IS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE'VE GOT SUFFICIENT MERGERS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, BRINGING THE TRAFFIC BACK TOGETHER AND THEY ARE STILL, UH, IT'S NOT ON HERE, BUT THEY'RE STILL LOOKING INDIVIDUALLY AT THE, UH, EACH INDIVIDUAL INTERSECTION ON THAT STRETCH ALL THE WAY UP PAST THE KOA CAMP.
ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT BOARD WERE LIKE FOR ME TOO? CHECK ON WHAT I'M DOWN THERE.
55 EAST ACROSS FROM, UH, THE APPLE HOUSE ADJACENT TO THE APPLE MOUNTAIN STORE.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PUTTING IN SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING I BELIEVE.
AND THEN I GUESS THEY'RE ALSO BEING REQUIRED TO PUT IN A TURN LANE.
WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME ON THAT? NO, I DO NOT.
I FIND OUT FOR YOU, BUT IT'S AN EXPANSION BY HOPE FROM THEM.
UM, AND I NOTICED THE OTHER DAY, I DIDN'T NOTICE IT LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE, I GUESS THE WINDS WE HAD, UH, KNOCKED DOWN SOME TREES RIGHT ALONG THERE, UH, PARALLEL TO THE 55 ON THE PROPERTY.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT IN THE ROAD, BUT IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO IT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE OF, YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
UH, WE, UH, WE, WE LOST A LOT OF TREES IN THAT HIGH WIND AND WE HAVE A, ANOTHER WIND WARNING FOR TONIGHT.
THE CONFIDENCE LEVEL ISN'T QUITE AS HIGH, BUT IT EXISTS FOR TONIGHT, BUT WE HAD PEOPLE GOING AROUND NOW TRYING TO, TO CLEAN UP THAT STUFF.
THAT'S ON I RIGHT AWAY, UH, WHEN, UH, THE PROBLEM IS WHEN A TREE FALLS ON A UTILITY LINE AND IT GETS HUNG UP OR A, UH, EITHER BE AT POWER OR TELEPHONE, WE CAN'T FOR LIABILITY REASONS, FOR SAFETY REASONS ON THE POWER, BUT FILL OUT ABILITY REASONS ON THE TELEPHONE LINES, TAKE THOSE TREES OFF.
WE CAN CLEAN THEM UP IF THE UTILITY COMPANY COMES AND CUTS THEM FROM THE LIE.
BUT YES, SIR, WE ARE LOOKING AT THEM.
SO MR. CARTER, WHO DOES THE CONSTITUENT CALL IN THE EVENT? SO I HAVE SOMEONE IN MY DISTRICT WHO SENT ME A PHOTOGRAPH OF A TREE THAT WITH A WIND TONIGHT, WE'LL PROBABLY BE ON THAT LINE.
UM, IF THAT WIND DOES HAPPEN, WHO DO THEY CALL IF THEY SUSPECT THAT IT MIGHT FALL OR TO IT, TO DO INTERVENTIONS, TO PREVENT IT FROM FALLING ON A LINE WHO DOES A CONSTITUENT CALL IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT, IS THE TREE ON OUR RIGHT AWAY? OR IS IT OFF THE RIGHT AWAY? AND IT'S IN DANGER OF FIRE.
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I COULDN'T TELL YOU THAT ANSWER AT THIS POINT.I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR CERTAIN, I WAS SENT A PHOTOGRAPH, SO IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SEE.
UM, WE, WE, WE CAN GO OUT AND CHECK IT IF IT'S ON OUR RIGHT AWAY, IF IT HASN'T FALLEN YET, AND WE CAN BRING A CONTRACTOR IN TO CUT IT, IF IT HAS ALREADY FALLEN AND IT'S LEANING AGAINST THE LINE, THEN THE UTILITY COMPANY BE IT, UH, UH, CENTURY, OR IT'D BE, UH, COMCAST DOMINION OR, YOU KNOW, WHICHEVER POWER COMPANY IT IS.
SO, AND THAT PARTICULAR ONE, IF YOU WANT TO SEND IT TO ME, I'LL HAVE HIM, I'LL SEND YOU A PHOTOGRAPH OF THIS ONE.
I, I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT, UM, I, IF THE CONSTITUENTS HAVE BROUGHT UP TO ME ON GOONIE MAN OR LOOP, THEY WERE WONDERING A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, WALK THAT ROAD NOW AS PART OF THEIR EXERCISE, UH, DAILY.
AND THEY WERE WONDERING IF, UH, PEDESTRIAN SIGN COULD BE PUT UP THERE.
AND I THINK THAT'S PREDOMINANT, WELL, PROBABLY BOTH ENDS, BUT, UM, THE END THAT IT WAS A DRESS DRESS TO ME WAS THE BROWNTOWN SIDE OF GUNEY MANNER.
UH, WE GET THAT REQUEST A LOT.
AND I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE TAKEN THE WRONG WAY.
WE DON'T BUILD ROADS FOR PEDESTRIANS TO WALK.
WE TRY TO PROVIDE THE GASTRIN PATHS WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE AND THINGS OFF OF THE ROADWAY.
SO WE HESITATE TO PUT PEDESTRIAN WARNING SIGNS FOR TWO REASONS.
NUMBER ONE IS, UH, THE, THE TRAFFIC GETS ON THE ROAD.
ISN'T EXPECTING, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY A ROAD LIKE THAT FOR PEDESTRIANS TO BE ON, IT'S THE SAME THING.
WE GET REQUESTS FOR HORSES ON THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, OR BICYCLES ON THE ROAD.
AND THE OTHER THING IT DOES, IT GIVES THE PEDESTRIAN A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY BECAUSE HE THINKS BECAUSE THEY HAD SIGNS UP THERE THAT THE GUY THAT'S DRIVING, IT'S GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR HIM.
WE FOUND THAT NOT TO BE THE CASE.
I CAN AGREE WITH THE SECOND, BUT I'M QUESTIONABLE ON THE FIRST, BECAUSE IF I SEE THE SIGN THAT I DO LOOK OUT FOR PEOPLE, BUT, UM, THE OTHER QUESTION ON GOONIE MANOR LOOP WAS, UM, IF THERE COULD BE AN GOODY MANNER, LUKE GOES QUITE A DISTANCE AROUND THERE.
AND EACH END IS, UM, POSTED THAT WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT IS.
BUT THE ONE IS, ESPECIALLY IN THE, ON THE BROWN TOWN SIDE OF THE ROAD, I THINK IT'S POSTED AT THE CHURCH.
SO PEOPLE ASSUME THAT GOES FOR BROWNTOWN ROAD.
AND THEN WHEN THEY GET UP ON GOONIE MANNER, THEY DON'T THINK IT'S POSTED.
SO THEY WERE QUESTIONING IF SOMEWHERE FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER, THERE COULD BE A MEDIUM WHERE THERE'S PUT TO REMIND PEOPLE, THIS IS A 35 MILE ROAD.
WE, IT, IF IT'S NOT POSTED ON BOTH, WE CAN POST IT ON BOTH ENDS.
BUT WE HAVE SO MANY RULE RUSTICS, AND IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THE STATE LEGISLATION PASSED THE, THE, UH, THE CODE THAT SAYS THAT RULE RUSTICS, THE MAXIMUM SPEED LIMIT IS 35.
IF WE DIDN'T POST IT, IT'S STILL 35.
BUT LET US CHECK THAT AND, AND CHECK BOTH ENDS FOR THAT, TO BE SURE THAT IT IS PROPERLY POSTED.
UM, THE OTHER, UH, YOU MENTIONED, UM, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE CLEANING OUT PIPES.
I JUST WANTED TO REMIND THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL THOMPSON HOLLOW THAT, UM, HAVE BEEN AN ISSUE NOW FOR A LITTLE BIT AND THE BROWNTOWN ROAD PIPE REPLACEMENT THAT YOU TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE, UM, DETOURING.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE? I'LL HAVE TO CHECK WITH KAY.
UM, I JUST, UH, WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE THEY DIDN'T DO THEIR RED BUD FESTIVAL BECAUSE THEY DECIDED TO PUSH THAT OFF AND CALL IT A SUMMER FESTIVAL ON JUNE 19TH.
SO I KNOW YOU CAN'T STOP YOUR CONSTRUCTION, BUT I DID WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
HOW LONG IS THAT? JUST ONE DAY, ONE DAY THAT I KNOW, CERTAINLY WE CAN SCHEDULE AROUND THAT.
UM, MY BROWN TOWN ROADS ENOUGH OF AN ISSUE WITHOUT HAVING A LOT OF OUT-OF-TOWN PEOPLE, NOT ON A DETOUR, BUT I UNDERSTAND IF YOU'VE ALREADY STARTED THE PROJECT IT'S, UM, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
IT, IT SHOULDN'T, IT'S JUST, IT'S, UH, I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT BIG OF A DEAL JUST TO CLOSE IT ON.
DON'T TAKE MORE THAN A DAY, UNLESS IT'S A SPECIFICALLY BIG ONE.
IT MIGHT BE MORE THAN JUST ONE DAY FROM THE
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TIME YOU SPOKE ABOUT THAT BEFORE.I THINK IT'S A PRETTY GOOD SIZE CULVERT, NOT JUST A PIPE.
UM, AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING THERE AT THE SIX 19, UM, INTERCHANGE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU GOING TO BE USING OFF OF THE PLANS THAT MR. LINEBERRY REFERENCED IN THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU GAVE ME WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT STATE ROAD? OR HAS THAT BE INTERESTED TO SEE? NO, I DON'T KNOW.
TRAFFIC JUST SENT THIS TO ME, UM, ON FRIDAY AND I HAVEN'T REALLY HAD TIME TO LOOK AT IT YET.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT OVER THE TELEPHONE, BUT, UH, RIGHT NOW I THINK THE, THE PLAN IS WE WOULD, UH, THE GATE THAT LEFT TURN LANE FOR THOSE TWO RESIDENTS AND MAKE THAT A THROUGH LANE.
AND LIKE THE END USE THE, THE RIGHT LANE IS A THROUGH LANE.
YOU STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TURN LANE AND THE RIVERMONT.
AND THEN WE WOULD, UH, WE WOULD BRING THE TRAFFIC BACK TOGETHER ON THE FAR SIDE.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT TO BE SURE THAT WE HAVE GOT ENOUGH DISTANCE FOR THAT TRAFFIC TO SAFETY.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE TWO THROUGH LANES INSTEAD OF ONE THROUGH LANE AND ONE EXTENDED RIGHT.
TURN LANE THAT HOPING TO ELIMINATE ALL OF THAT TRAFFIC, TRYING TO GET OVER IN THAT RIGHT LANE TO GO THROUGH IT.
I THINK THE, THE, I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO TELL YOU HOW TO DO YOUR JOB, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, IT SEEMS LIKE MAKING ONE THROUGH LANE AND AN EXTENDED RIGHT LANE WOULD BE A LOT BETTER.
CAUSE FU I, I CAN'T SEE TWO GOING TO ONE IS GOING TO WORK VERY WELL THERE, BUT WE'LL WAIT AND SEE, THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE NOW.
YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE THE, THE LANES TRYING TO GET OVER TO THAT ONE LANE BEFORE THEY GO THROUGH THE LIGHT AND THEN PEOP PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THAT LEFT LANE WANT TO GET ALL THE WAY OVER INTO THAT EXTENDED RIGHT LANE TO MAKE THAT TURN.
SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, IS GET THE PEOPLE, UH, UH, IF WE DO THIS AND I SAID, THIS IS JUST IN THE PLANNING STAGES.
IF WE DO THIS, WE WOULD, WE WOULD, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS TAKE OUT ALL OF THAT MARKING THAT'S THERE NOW, AND PUT TWO STRAIGHT THROUGH LANES SO THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THERE THAT WANT TO GO THROUGH NOW, THEY DON'T HAVE TO MERGE OVER TO THE RIGHT UNTIL THEY GET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THEM.
COULD YOU SEND ME, UM, THE DIAGRAM OF WHAT MR. LINEBERRY WAS REFERENCING IN THOSE FOUR HOUR AREAS THAT SO I CAN SEE TO COMPARE WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING VERSUS WHAT HE SAID WAS WORKING IN OTHER PLACES.
AND THE REQUEST I GAVE YOU BACK, OH, IT'S BEEN BACK A WHILE TO SEE ABOUT LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT ON A COUPLE OF AREAS, UH, FROM 35 TO 25, HAVE YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO LOOK AT ON THE RURAL RUSTIC PANHANDLE OR DOWNING FARM WASN'T WELL, IT'S 30 ON DOWNING FARM, AND YOU WERE GOING TO LOOK INTO THAT, BUT I ALSO GAVE YOU THAT PACKET OF STUFF TO TRY TO GET THAT, UM, THAT STRETCH THAT GOES AROUND, UM, FROM THE END OF INDIAN HOLLOW, INTO PANHANDLE WHERE THE CAMP, GROUND AND ALL THAT IS, DID YOU STILL HAVE THAT AND WHERE, WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? YEAH, I HAVEN'T, QUITE FRANKLY.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE IT'S AT.
WELL, IF YOU, IF YOU NEED BE, I THINK I'VE GOT MY COPIES AT THE HOUSE.
I, I, UH, IF I HAVEN'T LET ME CHECK ON IT.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAD ANYONE ELSE.
UM, I WAS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM, UH, EMILY, THAT YOU ALL WILL HAVE ANY WORK SESSION THIS AFTERNOON, OR SOMETIME TODAY, RIGHT AFTER THIS MEETING.
AND THAT ALBUM, I'M SUPPOSED TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION WITH YOU ABOUT THE SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN.
IS THAT STILL GOOD FOR YOU? YEAH, IT'S STILL GOOD FOR ME.
IF, IF IT JUST HAVE AN APPROXIMATE TIME TO BE, UM, DO YOU, DO YOU GO, EXCUSE ME, DO YOU GO INTO A CLOSED SESSION BEFORE THE WORK SESSION, OR DID YOU DO THE WORK SESSION FIRST? YES.
DAILY, DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE ABOUT WHEN WE WOULD START THE WORK SESSION WITH
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UH, JUST, UH, EITHER THAT, OR GIVE ME A PLACE TO WORK UNTIL YOU CALL ME.I'M PREPARED TO STAY TILL FOUR.
[F. Report - Virginia Cooperative Extension Office - Stacy Swain]
FROM THE VIRGINIA COOPERATIVE EXTENSION OFFICE.MADAM CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS.
I APPRECIATE YOU ALL HAVING ME TO DO THIS REPORT.
UM, SO I'M GOING TO START WITH THE AG AND NATURAL RESOURCES PART, UM, COREY AND THE OTHER COLLEAGUES AND OUR DISTRICT HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SLOTTED, LEANER AND FLY.
UM, I KNEW MARK AND FREDERICK HAS BEEN GETTING A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT THAT.
SO THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO, UM, MAKE THE PUBLIC AWARE ABOUT THAT, WHAT TO DO IF THEY SEE THEM, UM, IF THEY HAVE THEM WHEN THEIR PROPERTY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THEY ALSO WORKED WITH, UM, THE FARMERS AND FRUIT GROWERS AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE SURROUNDING PLANNING DISTRICT FOR THEIR ANNUAL COMMERCIAL PESTICIDE PROGRAM FOR RECERTIFICATION, UM, THAT THIS YEAR HAD TO BE A VIRTUAL PROGRAM.
SO THERE WERE SOME, UM, CHANGES FOR THAT, BUT THEY STILL HAD A LARGE TURNOUT FOR THAT.
UM, AND THEN THEY'VE ALSO BEEN, CORY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE STATE, UM, BEEF QUALITY ASSURANCE PROGRAM, AND THEN WORKING WITH, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE FOUR H AGENTS IN OUR COUNTY AND OUR SURROUNDING COUNTIES, UM, FOR THE YOUTH QUALITY ASSURANCE TRAINING THAT WE DO FOR ALL OF OUR, UM, YOUTH MEMBERS WHO SHOW LIVESTOCK AT THE FAIRS IN THE SUMMER.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT UP AND RUNNING.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY ALSO JUST HELPING THOSE YOUTH MEMBERS, UM, START PLANNING FOR THE FAIRS, UM, FOR THAT UPCOMING FAIR SEASON, AS FAR AS FAMILY AND CONSUMER SCIENCES, KAREN CONTINUES TO DO THE COPING, UM, WITH MONEY CRUNCH WEBINARS.
SHE HAS DEVELOPED A SHORTER VERSION FOR THOSE WHO DID NOT WANT TO DO THE EXTENDED VERSION.
UM, AND THEN SHE'S ALSO STARTED A PROGRAM THAT IS WITH HER VOLUNTEERS, UM, QUICK MONEY CHATS FOR, UM, TRAINING HER VOLUNTEERS.
THEN WITH THAT, IT'S MORE, UM, OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE QUESTIONS RELATED TO FINANCIALS, UM, TO WHERE THEY CAN SPECIFICALLY ASK QUESTION AND HOPEFULLY GET, UM, A QUICK RESPONSE TO SOMEONE THAT IS TRAINED IN THAT, UM, PROGRAM AREA.
A LOT OF TIMES THEY HAVE MULTIPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT MULTIPLE THINGS, SO THAT NARROWS IT DOWN AND THEY CAN PREPARE THAT INFORMATION WHEN THEY SET UP THAT MEETING TO HELP THEM WITH THAT ADVICE THAT'S GOING ON.
AND THEN, UM, VANESSA, WHO WAS OUT OF THE FREDRICK OFFICE, BUT ALSO SERVES WARREN.
SHE IS PART OF THE TRAIN, THE TEAM TEAM THAT STARTED A MONTHLY STATEWIDE NEWSLETTER, UM, THAT PROVIDES INFORMATION ON NUTRITION AND WELLNESS.
UM, SO JUST A LOT OF INFORMATION GOING OUT, OBVIOUSLY STILL A LOT OF OUR STUFF IS STILL VIRTUAL.
UM, SO JUST A LOT OF PLANNING AND GETTING READY FOR UPCOMING PROGRAMS FOR THAT AS FAR AS, UM, THE FOUR H WORLD, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY MY AREA THAT SO I'M, UH, MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT, UM, SINCE WE COULD NOT HAVE A CAMP LAST SUMMER, I WAS TALKING TO MY COLLEAGUE CLAUDIA AND CLARK COUNTY, WHO WE CAMP WITH, AND WE HAD A LOT OF CAMPERS AND TEENS AND EVEN US THAT WERE DISAPPOINTED.
UM, IT WAS A VIRTUAL AND WE HAD 31 YOUTH THAT PARTICIPATED IN THAT.
UM, AND WE ENDED UP GETTING KIDS NOT ONLY FROM CLARK AND WARREN COUNTIES, BUT WE HAD SOME FROM LOUDON.
WE HAD SOME FROM OTHER COUNTIES.
SO THAT WAS A VERY GOOD, GOOD TURN OUT.
WE WERE REALLY EXCITED FOR THAT, WITH IT BEING VIRTUAL.
UM, THE KIDS WERE ABLE TO PICK UP A KIT THAT HAD A LOT OF ACTIVITY.
STEM-RELATED FUN THINGS IN IT.
UM, AND THEN WE DID VIRTUAL CAMPFIRE, UM, WHERE WE JUST KIND OF PRETENDED LIKE WE WERE AT THE FORAGE CENTER ON A WARM SUNNY DAY.
AND, UM, WE JUST SANG SOME SONGS, TALK TO IT, TO THE KIDS WHO HAD, EXCUSE ME, WHO HAD NEVER BEEN TO CAMP BEFORE, UM, AND JUST ENCOURAGE THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE THINGS.
SO IT WAS, UM, JUST SOMETHING GOOD AND FUN TO DO IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY, UM, TO KIND OF JUST GIVE THE KIDS AN OUT, UM, OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL WORK AND KIND OF THE DOWNTIME OF EVERYTHING BEING CANCELED AND WINTER NOT BEING ABLE TO GET OUT.
WE HAD OUR, FOR EACH COUNTY CONTEST.
UM, THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR FIRST LARGER, UM, IN-PERSON EVENTS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO HOLD.
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US.UM, WE HAD APPROXIMATELY 30 YOUTH PARTICIPATE.
UM, I WAS VERY PLEASED WITH THE PARTICIPANTS, THEIR SPEECHES, UM, THEIR, THE PREPAREDNESS FOR THAT.
SO WE HAD THINGS LIKE, UM, PRESENTATIONS, WHERE THEY DID A PRESENTATION WITH AND SOME TYPE OF VISUAL AID.
AND WE HAVE SOME THAT DID PREPARED SPEECHES.
WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPATED IN OUR PHOTOGRAPHY CONTEST, UM, AND THEN SOME VARIOUS OTHERS.
AND THEN OF THOSE, WE HAD TWO YOUTH THAT WENT ONTO THE DISTRICT CONTEST, UM, AND PLACED AND PARTICIPATED THERE.
SO IT WAS VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THOSE PARTICIPATE LOCALLY, BUT THEN ALSO GO INTO THE DISTRICT LEVEL.
ONE OF OUR BIGGEST, UM, EVENTS THAT WE HAD KIND OF IN THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WAS OUR SKYLINE STOCKMEN'S CONTEST.
THAT'S AN ANNUAL EVENT THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING FOR 12, 11, 12 YEARS.
UM, AND TYPICALLY THAT IS HELD IN PERSON AT VIRGINIA LIVESTOCK.
UM, AND USUALLY WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, UPWARDS OF 180 TO 200 PEOPLE.
SO WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GO VIRTUAL THIS YEAR BASED ON OBVIOUSLY THE COVID PANDEMIC GUIDELINES AND THEN OUR STATE FOUR H GUIDELINES.
UM, SO WE TRANSITIONED THAT TO AN ALL VIRTUAL CONTEST, WHICH WAS, UM, A UNIQUE CHALLENGE FOR US AND THEN ALSO THE YOUTH AS WELL.
HOWEVER, IT WAS VERY BENEFICIAL BECAUSE THE STATE CONTEST THIS YEAR WAS VIRTUAL TOO.
SO THAT GAVE THE YOUTH, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY TO VIEW THE PLATFORM PRIOR TO COMPETING AT THE STATE SINCE WE WERE USING THE SAME PLATFORM.
SO THEY WERE ABLE TO KIND OF GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO JUDGE ANIMALS, UM, WHEN A COMPUTER SCREEN VERSUS THEM WALKING AROUND AN ARENA.
UM, SO THAT WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.
WE GOT A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE COACHES AND PARENTS AND THE YOUTH THAT PARTICIPATED THAT IT GAVE THEM A BOOST OF ENERGY AND JUST CONFIDENCE BOOSTER.
AND NOT ONLY JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRACTICE SOME OF THOSE SKILLS BEFORE GOING INTO THE STATE COMPETITION THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
UM, SO WE HAD QUITE A LARGE TURNOUT FOR THAT.
AND WE HAD, UM, I THINK IT WAS ROUGHLY 150, 146 SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
WE HAD A LARGE PORTION OF YOUTH THAT REGISTERED, UM, BUT DID NOT COMPLETE IT FULLY DUE TO SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES, UM, OR A LOT OF, UM, THE STUDENTS AND SOME OF THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES, UM, AG DEPARTMENTS, THEIR TEACHERS ENROLLED THEM, BUT THEN THEY DECIDED NOT TO PARTICIPATE.
UM, SO I WAS STILL VERY PLEASED WITH THE NUMBER THAT WE HAD TURNED OUT.
UM, WE ENDED UP THAT WAS A STATEWIDE CONTEST AND WE ACTUALLY ENDED UP HAVING PARTICIPANTS, UM, FROM WEST VIRGINIA, AS WELL AS VIRGINIA AND THEN ALL OVER THE STATE OF VIRGINIA.
SO I WAS VERY HAPPY WITH THAT.
UM, WE HAD OUR ANNUAL FOUR H CLUB OFFICER TRAINING, SO THE CLUBS THAT ELECT THEIR OFFICERS, AND THEN I MEET WITH THEM TO GO OVER WHAT IT'S LIKE TO RUN A BUSINESS MEETING AND PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE, AND JUST HOW TO BE A GOOD EXAMPLE AND A GOOD LEADER IN THEIR CLUB AS AN OFFICER.
AND THEN I ALSO ATTENDED A TWO DAY TRAINING ON CHARACTER COUNTS, AND THAT'S JUST A PROGRAM THAT, YOU KNOW, INSTILLS THE VALUES OF RESPONSIBILITY AND TRUSTWORTHINESS AND RESPECT AND TO OUR YOUTH.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE ARE ALREADY DOING THAT, BUT JUST GAVE THEM MORE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES AND THEN HOPEFULLY PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE CAN PUT INTO OTHER PROGRAMS, UM, AND PROGRAMS INTO THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS. AND THEN LAST, UM, THE BIG THING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IS OUR FOUR H CAMP.
UM, AS, AS I SAID EARLIER, IT WAS CANCELED LAST SUMMER.
HOWEVER, FINGERS CROSSED, IF EVERYTHING CONTINUES TO GO AS PLANNED, WE WILL BE HAVING AN IN-PERSON CAMP, UM, THIS YEAR.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY OBVIOUSLY WE'RE AT A REDUCED CAPACITY, SO WE'RE AT 50% CAPACITY.
UM, SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A STRUGGLE TO KIND OF FIGURE EVERYTHING OUT, BUT WE'RE PLANNING THAT TO WORKING ON IT.
UM, RIGHT NOW ENROLLMENT IS, UM, WE'RE ALMOST ON A WAITLIST, WHICH IS EXCITING, UM, AND SAD BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME KIDS THAT MAY NOT GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO.
WE HAVE A LOT OF TEAMS THAT ARE GOING, SO WE'RE JUST WORKING ON GETTING THAT PLAN, TRYING TO PLAN ACTIVITIES TO WHERE THE KIDS, UM, ARE STILL HAVING FUN, FEELING LIKE CAMP, BUT FORGETTING THAT WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC, UM, WITH THAT ALSO THIS YEAR, TYPICALLY WE CAMP WITH JUST CLARK AND WARREN COUNTIES, HOWEVER, UM, FREDERICK AND PAIGE HAVE SOME UNIQUE SITUATIONS GOING ON WITH THEIR AGENTS RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN PAIGE COUNTY ACTUALLY JUST HIRED THEIR FOUR H AGENT.
UM, SO CLAUDIA AND I WERE REACHED OUT TO, BY THE STATE LEVEL AND OUR DISTRICT LEVEL TO TAKE ON THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES.
SO IN ADDITION TO CLARK AND WARREN CAMPING THIS YEAR, OUR FREDERICK AND PAIGE COUNTY, UM, WILL BE JOINING US.
SO WE'RE MANAGING FOUR COUNTIES VERSUS TWO, UM, THAT WE HAD OUR FIRST TEAM TRAINING AND THE TEENS ALL MET, UM, VIRTUALLY.
AND IT, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE OF WHO WAS FROM WHAT COUNTY, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TELL, THEY WERE REALLY, UM, WORKING TOGETHER ALREADY SHARING EMAIL ADDRESSES, THEN INSTAGRAM CODES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO GET THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR KIDS AND OUR CAMPERS THIS SUMMER, UM, TO HAVE
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THAT OPPORTUNITY IN PERSON, UM, THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR YOU TODAY.IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM OR AT LEAST TRY TO ANSWER THEM.
UM, W ONE QUESTION, AND I THINK THIS PROBABLY WILL GO BACK TO MR. CHILDS, BUT WE HAD, UM, A RESIDENT COME TO US WITH CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROCEDURE WITH THE SPOTTED LANTERN FRY.
AND I WAS WONDERING IF HE COULD, UM, DO AN IN-SERVICE AT ONE OF OUR, UM, MORK SESSIONS SO THAT THAT INFORMATION CAN GET OUT.
CAUSE I PERSONALLY DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GO ABOUT THAT.
LIKE IF YOU GO OUT TO CAMP OR WHATEVER, AND HOW YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW THOSE GUIDELINES, WHERE YOU GO AND ALL THAT.
SO IF HE COULD DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE, I CAN, UM, YEAH, THAT'S DEFINITELY A QUESTION FOR COREY.
UM, BUT I'LL, I'LL LET HIM KNOW THAT INFORMATION AND HAVE HIM CONTACT.
UM, IS IT OKAY IF I HAVE HIM CONTACT YOU TO SCHEDULE IT OR IN THE LAYER? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
I WILL DEFINITELY GET THAT INFORMATION TO HIM SO THAT WE CAN.
AND, AND I DID WANT TO SAY THAT, UM, I WAS THERE THE DAY THAT YOU HAD THE A FOUR H CAN DONE, I THOUGHT THAT WAS AMAZING.
UM, I REMEMBER DOING THAT AS A KID AND THAT'S STRESSFUL AND, UM, BUT, AND YOU GUYS, IT WAS, IT WAS A REALLY GOOD DAY.
I APPRECIATE YOU INVITING ME TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.
UM, AND AS FAR AS YOUR CAMP DAYS, HOW MANY CAMPS DO YOU RUN IN A SUMMERS TIME? SO FIRST THANK YOU FOR THE COMPLIMENT, THE COUNTY CONTEST, THE KIDS REALLY ENJOYED IT, AND I APPRECIATE YOU COMING TO SERVE AS A JUDGE FOR US.
UM, AS FAR AS THE CAMPS, I ONLY AM IN CHARGE OF RUNNING THE ONE OVERNIGHT SUMMER CAMP.
UM, SINCE THAT IS OUR WARREN COUNTY OVERNIGHT CAMP, UM, TYPICALLY WE TRY TO ALSO OFFER SOME DAY CAMPS AND THINGS THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER FOR OUR WARREN COUNTY RESIDENTS.
UM, RIGHT NOW I'M STILL KIND OF BACK AND FORTH ON THAT BECAUSE OF ALL THE COVID REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW.
UM, WE'RE WAITING FOR OUR UPDATES.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME UPDATES FROM OUR STATE FOUR H OFFICE THIS YEAR, THIS COMING WEEK, UM, ALONG WITH THE GOVERNOR'S GUIDELINES.
UM, SO ONE OF OUR BIGGEST THINGS IS JUST TRYING TO FIND A LOCATION THAT WE CAN SOCIAL DISTANCE AND ALLOW THOSE KIDS TO COME.
SO, UM, TYPICALLY WE DO, YOU KNOW, SOME SUMMER CAMPS AND DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES OVER THE SUMMER, IN ADDITION TO THAT OVERNIGHT CAMP THAT I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR.
UM, AND THEN I ALSO WITH THE PANTONE MAKE, WE'RE KIND OF ALL WORKING IN SHIPPING IN TO KIND OF HELP AND KIND OF BE ON CALL FOR THE OVER OVERNIGHT CAMPS IN THE EVENT THAT AN AGENT TEST POSITIVE OR IS EXPOSED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT, UM, I, MYSELF AM NORMALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ONE OVERNIGHT CAMP AND THEN THE DAY CAMPS THAT WE HAVE LOCALLY.
AND, AND THEY'RE STILL A WEEK LONG, THE CAMPERS ARE THERE A WEEK OR IS THAT DIFFERENT NOW? OVERNIGHT CAMPUS SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, THEY COME IN ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON AND THEN THEY LEAVE THURSDAY EVENING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
[G. Reports - Board Members, Interim County Administrator, Interim County Attorney]
BOARD MEMBERS, MR. CARTER, ONE, ONE THING, I GUESS IF THERE'S A CONCERN EXPRESSED BY A CITIZEN, I BELIEVE IT'S OUR ROLE TO PASS THAT ON AND HAVE STAFF LOOK INTO IT.IF IT IS A CONCERN FROM STAFF, IN MY OPINION, IT SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP WITH HIS OR HER DIRECT SUPERVISOR AND OR HIS DEPARTMENT HEAD.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS MS. CALLER HAS PASSED THIS TO MR. DALEY REGARDING THE INCIDENT AT THE TRANSFER STATION.
HE THEN CONTACTED THE SHERIFF, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS MS. COLORS, DID YOU DIRECT MR. DALEY TO CONTACT THE SHERIFF OR WAS THAT HIS IDEA? THE OTHER QUESTION IS, WAS MIKE BARRY CONTACTED.
UM, PARDON ME? I'M WAITING TO SEE THAT'S MY QUESTION RIGHT NOW WAS MIKE BARRY CONTACTED BEFORE OR AFTER YOU CONTACTED THE SHERIFF SIMULTANEOUS.
AND AS FAR AS YOUR QUESTIONS TO ME, SINCE THIS IS AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION, I'VE MADE MY STATEMENT AND I DON'T PLAN ON MAKING A FURTHER COMMENT UNTIL THAT INVESTIGATOR IS THE INVESTIGATION STILL ONGOING.
AM I UNDERSTANDING? AND THE OTHER THING TOO, IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE TOWN HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS AND THE MATERIALS KNOWN AS SCREENING AND GRIT.
THEY, THOSE PARTICULAR MATERIALS, THEY WERE TRANSFERRING UP THERE IN BENTONVILLE.
THEY WERE COMING FROM THE COUNTY SEPTIC HAULERS.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHY DID THIS ALL OF A SUDDEN BECOME A PROBLEM? AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS, COULD THIS HAVE BEEN RESOLVED WITH JUST A PHONE CALL TO TOWN MANAGER AND SIT DOWN WITH MR. BARRY IN THE TOWN STAFF
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AND ASK THEM, I UNDERSTAND THAT IF THERE'S A, UH, ALLEGED CRIME AGAINST SOMEBODY, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY GO STRAIGHT TO THEM, BUT THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SOME TIME.IT SEEMED LIKE TO ME, IT COULD HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT A LOT EASIER THAN THE PROCESS WE'RE GOING THROUGH AT THIS TIME.
AND LASTLY, I'VE GOT, AS MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD KEEPS SAYING, THEY WANT TO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNCIL AND WORK TOGETHER TO MOVE THE COMMUNITY FORWARD.
YOU CERTAINLY HAVE A STRANGE WAY OF SHOWING IT, BUT I GUESS ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.
ONCE THIS INVESTIGATION IS CONCLUDED, I IN THE PUBLIC EXPECT A FULL OF COUNTING OF THIS EVENT.
THANK YOU, MR. FOX, YOU CALL ME.
I JUST WANT TO REPORT IT ATTENDED THE SANITARY, UH, COMMITTEE MEETING RECENTLY.
MR. MABE, I HAVE VISITED THE, UM, UH, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND DISCUSS COUNTY AND TOWN AWARENESS ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
UH, HOMELESSNESS, FOOD, UH COVID UM, LOTS OF THINGS WERE DISCUSSED, UH, GOOD CONVERSATION, UH, HOPEFULLY GOOD FORWARD MOVEMENT ON THIS.
UH, I TALKED WITH VACO OR HAD A CONFERENCE, WHICH LASTED TWO DAYS, UH, HAD 11 WONDERFUL HOURS OF CONVERSATIONS AND, UM, UH, TRAINING WAS GREAT.
UM, HAVE, UH, VISITED WITH THE BROADBAND COMMITTEE.
UH, WE HAD SOME FORWARD MOVEMENT ON THAT.
UH, I'VE ALSO MET WITH THE TOWN MANAGER, UH, FOR COFFEE, UH, ON FRIDAY MORNING.
UH, WE SPENT SOME TIME JUST TALKING ABOUT GENERAL THINGS OF BRINGING THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY TOGETHER AND, UM, UH, THAT'S ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, I STILL VISITED MY CONSTITUENTS THAT WANTED TO VISIT AND TALK ON THE PHONE.
UM, ON, ON FOUR 22, I ATTENDED, UM, THE BILLS OUT AT THE AUTOCARE CLINIC.
HE DID AN EXPANSION AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO THE PEOPLE IN BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND PLANNING, BECAUSE HE WAS VERY, VERY COMPLIMENTARY OF HIS EXPERIENCE WITH THE COUNTY AND HOW WELL IT HAD GONE AND HOW RESPONSIVE THAT COUNTY HAD BEEN IN HELPING HIM MAKE SURE THAT HE COULD GET TO HIS OWN TIME.
DOUG DOES DESIGNATION FOR OPENING.
AND SO, UM, THAT WAS DELIGHTFUL TO HEAR WHILE I WAS THERE.
SO KUDOS TO THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY FOR THE GOOD SERVICE.
UM, I'D LIKE TO COMMEND SHARE BUTLER, UH, WASHINGTON POST HAS CARRIED NOT SO GREAT ARTICLES ABOUT WARREN COUNTY IN THE PAST.
AND THIS WEEKEND'S ARTICLE REGARDING YOUR, UM, ACCOMPANIMENT OF THE, UH, OF THE FOLKS IN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO GO OUT AND VISIT SHUT-INS AND OFFER VACCINES.
UH, IT KIND OF HEARKENED BACK.
I HAVE TO LAUGH BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS I'M A HUGE ANDY GRIFFITH FAN.
AND IF THERE IS AN EPISODE WHERE, AND HE'S ANDY AND BARNEY TRIED TO GET A MAN TO GET HIS VACCINE AND THE COUNTY, AND IT HEARKENED ME BACK TO THOSE DAYS.
AND, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY KUDOS SHERIFF BUTLER, THAT WAS A GREAT ARTICLE AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO HELP OUT OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO REPORT THAT THE TOURISM, THE JOINT TOURISM COMMITTEE CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE HAVE SEVERAL CAMPAIGNS, THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGNS, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF MEASURING THEIR SUCCESS.
UH, WE HAVE A GOLF CAMPAIGN, A, UH, CHA IT'S A HIKE WITH YOUR DOG CAMPAIGN BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, BUT DOG LOVERS ARE PROBABLY AT THE TOP OF OUR LIST IN TERMS OF ATTRACTING OUT HERE IN OUR 50 MILE RADIUS FOR THE TOURISM COMMITTEE, BUT WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE ARE SEEING VERY POSITIVE RESULTS IN THAT WOULD BE IT THAT'S SURE.
UM, I WANT TO REPORT THAT OUR BROADBAND COMMITTEE, UM, DID MEET THIS PAST THURSDAY AND WE LIKE TO WELCOME OUR NEW MEMBER VICKI COOK, WHO BRINGS, UH, EXPERTISE IN GRANT WRITING.
AND AS SOON AS SHE'S AT GRANT WRITING, I WAS SO HAPPY.
HOLMES FROM THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, SUPPORTING OUR EFFORTS.
WE SCHEDULED MEETINGS WITH SOME PROVIDERS AND, UM, WE'VE REACHED OUT TO LOUISA COUNTY TO LEARN FROM THEM THE AVENUE THAT THIRD TAKEN TO PROVIDE THIS SERVICE THERE.
SO, UM, I DO SEE THAT WE'RE MOVING INCH BY INCH FORWARD HITS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT FOR EVERYONE WHO'S STRUGGLING WITH THE SERVICE OR LACK OF THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE ARE DILIGENTLY WORKING ON THIS.
UM, TRUST ME ON THAT FIRE CHIEFS COMMITTEE, THE VOLUNTEER CHIEFS, UM, MET
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AT COMPANY TWO RIVERMONT STATION.UH, EACH OF THE VOLUNTEER CHIEFS WERE REPRESENTED THERE OR THE PRESIDENT OF THEIR COMPANY.
IF THEY COULDN'T BE THERE WITH CHIEF PANZANO, JUST DISCUSS VARIOUS, UH, ITEMS SUCH AS TRAINING OPERATIONS, EQUIPMENT AND GENERAL CONCERNS.
IT WAS A REALLY GOOD MEETING, A LOT OF POSITIVE, UM, UM, CONVERSATION THERE ON WHERE WE ARE, WHERE WE NEED TO BE AND HOW WE GET THERE.
UM, SO IT WAS A VERY GOOD MEETING, VOLUNTEERS, VOLUNTEERS, AND MA NEEDED.
AND, AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE.
IF YOU, IF, IF YOU THINK YOU'RE INTERESTED IN EMS OR FIREFIGHTING, UM, YOU KNOW, GO TO A MEETING AND LEARN GOES, HANG OUT IN ONE OF THE STATIONS AND GET AN IDEA.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DESIRE TO DO THAT IN THERE'S ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, THE COMPANIES NEED PEOPLE TO DO THE ADMINISTRATIVE, THE PRESIDENT, SECRETARY FUNDRAISERS, WORKING IN THE KITCHEN.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
AND I CAN TELL YOU FROM BEING A LONG TIME VOLUNTEER, IT'S VERY WORTH WHILE TO GET INVOLVED IN.
AND YOU'RE VERY MUCH NEEDED, UH, COMPANY EIGHT FORT SMITH FIRE STATION HAD A CRAFT SHOW, A COUPLE OF SUNDAYS, I WANT TO SAY THE 25TH.
AND I WENT OUT TO THAT IN A LOT OF GOOD VENDORS THERE.
I'M NOT SURE HOW GOOD THEIR TURNOUT WAS THERE, BUT, UM, IT WAS, IT WAS A REALLY, A LOT OF GOOD THINGS.
I GOT A LOT OF CHRISTMAS PRESENTS THAT DAY.
UM, I PARTICIPATED AT THE ACTIVE SHOOTER TRAINING AT THE HOSPITAL.
AND, UM, ONE OF THE THANK YOU TO RICK FARRELL AND ANYONE WHO WAS THAT A LOT OF EFFORT WENT INTO THAT.
AND, UM, IT WAS INTERESTING TO BE THE INVISIBLE PERSON THAT COULD WALK AROUND AND SEE THIS, UM, IN GUNSHOTS GOING OFF RIGHT BEHIND YOUR HEAD WHEN YOU DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE GOING TO GO OUT.
BUT, UM, I, IT WAS, UM, I THOUGHT IT WAS, UM, A WELL CONDUCTED EXERCISE AND HOLD ON.
I HOPE WE NEVER HAVE TO DO IN REALITY.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO WISH ALL THE MOMS OUT THERE HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY FOR THIS WEEKEND, DR.
MA'AM UH, WE WILL HAVE IN YOUR PACKET, AN UPDATE ON OUR MEALS AND MOTEL COLLECTIONS.
I'M PLEASED TO REPORT THAT THIS PAST MONTH WAS THE LARGEST MONTH FOR MEALS TAX THAT WE CAN FIND IN OUR RECEIPTS.
AND WE'RE NOW 2.1% AHEAD FOR THE NINE MONTH PERIOD OF JULY TO THE END OF MARCH.
SO THE WE'RE NOW AHEAD OF PRE COVID IN THAT REGARD HERE, THE COVID NINE MONTHS ARE BETTER THAN THE PRE COVID NINE MONTHS.
PLEASE READ THAT IN MOTEL RECEIPTS, CONTINUE TO MOVE ALONG VERY NICELY ALSO, BUT THE MEALS TAX PARTICULARLY IS THE ONE THAT REALLY TOOK THE BIG DIP OR PLEASED TO SEE THAT COME BACK UP.
OUR REASSESSMENT BEGINS IN JULY, AND WE HAVE INTERVIEWED FOUR FIRMS FOR THIS.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE TWO OF THE FIRMS TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD AT THE WORK SESSION WEEK, IF THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE, UM, MENTIONED, TALKED ABOUT THE, IT, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON MOVING THAT FORWARD.
AND WITH THE BOARD'S CONCURRENCE, IF THE APPROPRIATION ORDINANCES ADOPTED, WE WOULD LIKE TO POST THOSE POSITIONS AND THE GRANT POSITION IMMEDIATELY SO THAT WE CAN FILL THEM SOMETIME IN JUNE AND GET SOMEONE ON BOARD RATHER THAN WAITING UNTIL JULY TO START THAT PROCESS.
WE ARE HAVING NUMB AN EXCESS AMOUNT OF DEBRIS, UH, LEFT, UM, DISCARDED AT OUR CONVENIENCE CENTERS.
AND MR. BARRY'S GOING TO BE TALKING WITH A LIEUTENANT SEAL WHO WAS HERE.
I BEGAN ABOUT BECAUSE THIS LEAVING ALL THIS STUFF ON SUNDAY MORNING AND SO FORTH IS NOT ACCEPTABLE, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON HOW TO DO THAT.
UH, AND YOU MENTIONED THIS SPOTTED LANTERN FLY WORKSHOP.
UH, WE COULD DO THAT AS PART OF NEXT WEEK'S WORK SECTION, IF YOU'D LIKE, UM, IF MR. CHILDS IS AVAILABLE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
UH, I KNOW THE CAMPING SEASON HAS ALREADY STARTED.
SO GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT TO PEOPLE, TRAVELING WITH PROBABLY SOONER THE BETTER.
AND THEN FINALLY WE DO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL APPLICANT FOR THE EDA POSITIONS AND THE BOARD MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER INTERVIEWING NEITHER TWO OR THREE OF THOSE APPLICANTS THAT YOU HAVE NOW NEXT WEEK AT THE WORK
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SESSION.SO YOU CAN MAKE APPOINTMENTS LATER IN THE MONTH OF MAY.
AND MRS. LOGAN, I ALWAYS LIKE TO ADD YOU JUST IN CASE.
[H. Consent Agenda]
I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED? OR ARE THERE ANY ITEMS TO PULL FOR DISCUSSION MADAM CHAIR? YES, SIR.WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU PULL ITEMS SIX.
UM, I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE VERSION THAT, UH, LIEUTENANT FARREL HAD COMPLETED AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT VERSION AND SYNC WITH THE TOWN.
SO WE WOULD RATHER WAIT TO DO THIS IF, OKAY.
SO REMOVE THAT ONE WHEN YOU GET BACK.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO PULL NUMBER TWO FOR DISCUSSION.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS AMENDED? SO MOVED SECOND WE'LL CALL MRS. HAYES, MR. FOX, MR. MABE, MADAM CHAIR.
HI, MR. CARTER ON ITEM NUMBER TWO
[H2. Approval of Health and Dental Insurance Rates - Ed Daley/Ed White]
APPROVAL OF HEALTH AND DENTAL INSURANCE RATES.UM, I HAD SOME, UH, RESIDENTS CALL WITH CONCERN OVER, UM, THE DIFFERENCE.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAD, UM, CHECKED INTO HIS CONCERN THAT, UM, WHAT RSW HAS VERSUS, UM, BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD AND UNITED, AND THAT THEY ARE WITH CIGNA.
YES, MA'AM MR. CARTER IS HERE.
UM, MR. WHITE, MR. WHITE, I'M SORRY.
I'M TOO MANY ADS WERE IN THE HEADS FOR ME.
I JUST, I JUST LIKED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT OUT THERE AGAIN, THAT THE EQUITY BETWEEN UNITED AND WHAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE WITH BLUE CROSS, SINCE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE CONCERN WITH THIS ONE, THAT HE WOULD RATHER PAY MORE AND KEEP WHAT HE HAS, BECAUSE HE'S AFRAID IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS EQUAL.
DALEY HAD, HAD ASKED ME YESTERDAY ABOUT THAT AS WELL, AND YOU'RE RIGHT.
IT'S UH, THE JAIL HAS GOT CIGNA.
UM, BUT, UH, BUT I WOULD SAY IN GENERAL, WHEN, WHEN WE MOVED THE JAIL TO CIGNA BACK IN JANUARY, THE BENEFITS LINED UP, SO IT WASN'T A DEDUCTIBLE DIFFERENCE.
AND REALLY, IT WAS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH UNITED FOR THE COUNTY, UH, NETWORK WAS POST STRONG OVERLAP.
AND, UM, I WOULD SAY BLUE CROSS IS THE, CERTAINLY THE BIGGEST PLAYER IN THE, IN THE SHENANDOAH VALLEY AND PROBABLY ACROSS THE STATE OF VIRGINIA.
SO IT'S, THERE'S ALWAYS CONCERN WHEN SOMEBODY'S GOING FROM WHAT THEY'VE KNOWN FOR IN MANY CASES, 20 OR 30 OR 40 YEARS, THEY'VE NEVER BEEN ANYWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD.
UM, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, YES WE'VE WE DID A REALLY, AN APPLES TO APPLES BENEFIT COMPARISON MADE SURE WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT ANY OF THE CARRIERS, WHETHER IT BE UNITED OR CIGNA OR ANY OTHERS THROUGH THIS RFP PROCESS THAT THEY MATCH THE BENEFITS.
SO, AND WHAT WE KNOW FOR A FACT AS WELL, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NETWORK OF PROVIDERS, SO UNITED NETWORK OF PROVIDERS VERSUS ANTHEM'S NETWORK OF PROVIDERS, AGAIN, YOU'RE TALKING PROBABLY A 98% OVERLAP.
SO IF A DOCTOR PARTICIPATES WITH ANTHEM, THERE'S A 98% CHANCE, THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING WITH UNITED AND THAT'S ACROSS THE COUNTRY, NOT JUST WARREN COUNTY.
I THINK THIS PARTICULAR WAS, UM, MEDICATION, UM, COMPARED TO BUILD THE ON COVERAGE FOR MEDICATIONS AND SOME PROCEDURES.
UM, AND I, I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN WHAT THEY CHARGE THE DIFFERENT, SOMETIMES WE'LL MEDICATIONS AND WEAR BRAND NAME VERSUS GENERICS AND ALL THAT.
BUT THOSE WERE, AND I WISH I HAD MORE SPECIFICS, BUT I JUST DON'T.
AND, AND PROBABLY, I GUESS I WOULD, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
AND I WOULD SAY IT WHEN WE MOVE FROM ONE COMPANY TO ANOTHER, EVEN WHEN WE MOVED TO BLUE CROSS FROM THE UNITED, FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S PROBABLY PRESCRIPTIONS WHERE MOST FOLKS HAVE THE MOST INTERACTION WITH THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN.
IT'S NOT DOCTOR VISITS, THOSE ARE EASY COPAYS, BUT FOR ONE INSURANCE COMPANY MAY CONSIDER A CERTAIN DRUG BRAND NAME AND THEY CHARGE THE BRAND NAME COPAY WHERE ANOTHER COMPANY MIGHT CONSIDER IT A GENERIC AND YOU'RE PAYING THE GENERIC COPAY.
SO I CAN TELL YOU WITH, WITH IN PARTICULAR, WITH RESPECT TO WARREN COUNTY, WE WERE CAREFUL WITH UNITED PLAN
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THAT WE HAD, WHAT'S BASICALLY CALLED THE RICHEST FORMULA OR A FORMULARY.THAT'S GOT MORE DRUGS IN THE GENERIC CATEGORY THAN ANYTHING ELSE AT THE LOWEST POSSIBLE COPAY.
SO THAT MAY, HE MAY HAVE SEEN SOME OF THAT.
AND WE ALWAYS SEE THAT IT'S, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TALKING HUGE DOLLARS IN GENERAL, WE'RE TALKING MAYBE GOING FROM A $10 COPAY TO A $15 COPAY.
YOUR ALL'S MAXIMUM COPAY UNDER THE PRESCRIPTION SIDE IS 40, IS $55.
SO WORST CASE SCENARIO, IF SOMEBODY GETS PUSHED ALL THE WAY TO THE, TO THE SPECIALTY DRUG CATEGORY, IT'S A COPAY OF $55, YOU KNOW, UH, RIGHT UNDER THAT IT'S $45 FOR THE THIRD TIER.
SO YOU WILL SEE SOME OF THAT AGAIN, IT'S HARD SOMETIMES TO KNOW PERFECTLY HOW, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN MEDICATION IS GOING TO LINE UP WITH ONE VERSUS THE OTHER.
AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S STILL COMES DOWN TO, THERE'S A LOT OF SAVINGS AND SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE SAVINGS WILL OBVIOUSLY PROBABLY BE PASSED ON THE EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS THE COUNTY.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE I MIGHT MENTION MA'AM THAT WE CONTACTED THIS INDIVIDUAL AND TOLD HIM IF HE WANTED TO CONTACT MRS. LOGAN OR ME, WE WOULD BE GLAD TO GET HIM IN CONTACT WITH MR. WHITE TO TAKE CARE OF LOOKING AT HIM, HIM SPECIFIC.
AND WE WILL BE HAVING ORIENTATION MEETINGS FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND THE RETIREES WHO WERE ON OUR PLAN, UH, COMING UP IN THIS NEXT MONTH.
UM, JUST QUICKLY, I, YOU KNOW, OFTEN IF MY, IF MY INSURANCE DOESN'T COVER AT A LEVEL THAT I THINK FROM A PRESCRIPTION STANDPOINT, I ASKED FOR GOOD RX AND SOMETIMES IT'S LOWER THAN THE, THAN THE INSURANCE COVERAGE.
AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT IS, BUT I TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE EDUCATING OUR EMPLOYEES TO AT LEAST COMPARE THAT BECAUSE IT HAS WORKED FOR ME IN A NUMBER OF CASES, GOOD POINT.
AND IT'S WORKED FOR ME AS WELL.
I'M IN THE INSURANCE BUSINESS AND THERE'S CERTAIN MEDICATIONS THAT MY SON TAKES THAT I'VE GONE TO GOOD RX AND SAID, I DON'T EVEN NEED MY HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN.
SO IN A NUTSHELL, BASICALLY WHAT THAT, WHY THAT HAPPENS OCCASIONALLY IS GOOD RX ACTS LIKE A DRUG CARD WITH DISCOUNTS AT CERTAIN PHARMACIES.
UM, AND SOMETIMES THOSE DISCOUNTS AT THOSE CERTAIN PHARMACIES THROUGH GOOD RX ARE SO LOW THAT IT BETTER THAN ANTHEM HAS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THEIR DISCOUNTS.
SO IT SEEMS COUNTERINTUITIVE THAT YOU COULD NOT EVEN USE YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE AND THEN GET A MEDICATION THAT'S SO MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING.
SO IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO THE I'LL CALL IT A GRAY AREA OF THE DISCOUNT SYSTEM THAT HAPPENS IN THE PHARMACEUTICAL SIDE BETWEEN ONE PRESCRIPTION DRUG PLAN AND ANOTHER PRESCRIPTION DRUG PLAN.
WELL, I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO TRY GOOD RX IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE PRICE OF THE DRUG, ASK THEM TO COMPARE.
AND THEY'RE ALWAYS WILLING TO DO THAT AT MY, AT LEAST AT MY PHARMACY.
WE ACTUALLY, AND WE WILL DO THAT.
WE DO IT THROUGH, THROUGH OPEN ENROLLMENT PRESENTATIONS.
WE'LL, WE'LL PUT SOME BLURBS IN THERE, YOU KNOW, GO TO YOUR PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN BEFORE YOU GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM, USE GOOD RX.
IF YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A HIGH DOLLAR MEDICATION, OR EVEN IF IT'S A LOW DOLLAR MEDICATION, TRY IT OUT.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THEM ANY INFORMATION.
YOU JUST SAY, HERE'S MY MEDICATION.
AND THEY'LL DIRECT YOU TO THE LOCAL LOWEST COST PHARMACY YET.
WE'LL MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE THAT IN THE THANK YOU, MR. WHITE, FOR SURE.
UM, IS THERE A MOTION THEN ON THE APPROVAL OF HEALTH AND DENTAL INSURANCE RATES, MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE HEALTH AND DENTAL INSURANCE RATES FOR 21 2122.
IS THERE A SECOND, MRS. HAYES, WILL YOU DO A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. FOX.
[I. Authorization to Advertise for Public Hearing - Reconsideration of Rezoning Request R2020-10-01 for Dudding Commercial Development, LLC - Tony Carter]
I AM I AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE FOR PUBLIC HEARING RECONSIDERATION OF REASON AND REQUEST OUR 2020 DASH 10MR. CARTER, I MOVED TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO ADVERTISE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING SO THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MAY HEAR COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC REGARDING REZONING REQUEST OR TWO ZERO TWO ZERO DASH ONE ZERO DASH OH ONE FOR DUNNING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, LLC, PRIOR TO THE POSSIBLE RECONSIDERATION OF SUCH REZONING REQUEST BY THE BOARD.
WE HAD A DATE YET THE LAST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH.
WOULD YOU WANT TO, WITH THE BOARD, WANT TO START THE HEARING EARLIER, LIKE AT SIX, OR DO
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YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL SEVEN? I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE LEGALITIES OF BRINGING THIS BACK, UH, MR. HAM, I THOUGHT IT WAS 30 DAYS THAT, THAT THE SOMEONE WHO VOTED IN THE MAJORITY COULD BRING THIS BACK.THAT IT WAS A 30 DAY WHERE OUTSIDE THAT 30 DAY WINDOW, AREN'T WE? YEAH, IT'S, THAT'S NOT THE CASE OF THERE'S 30 DAYS FOR PEOPLE TO SUE US.
UM, SO THAT'S THE 30 DAYS YOU'RE THINKING OF.
SO THIS, THIS CAN BE BROUGHT BACK BY SOMEONE WHO VOTED, UM, WITH THE PREVAILING SIDE LAST TIME.
AND WHAT TIMEFRAME IS THAT? IS THERE A LIMITATION OR NO LIMITATION IS, IT CAN ONLY BE BROUGHT BACK ONCE PER CALENDAR YEAR.
THAT'S WHAT I, I KNEW THERE WAS A LIMITATION AND SOMEBODY HAD TOLD ME 30 DAYS, UH, WHEN THERE WAS DISCUSSION BEFORE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY THAT WE WERE WITHIN THE RIGHT WINDOW.
AND I HAVE A QUESTION, UH, MADAM CHAIR.
UM, WHAT CHANGED? I MEAN, WHY ARE WE BRINGING THIS BACK? IT'S ALREADY BEEN VOTED OWNER AND IT WAS, UH, REJECTED.
WHAT CHANGED? WELL, FOR ME, I WANTED TO REVISIT IT BECAUSE PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE BUS STOP AND THERE'S A BUS STOP THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO WORK ON WITH THE SCHOOL AND WOULD BE DOT AND THAT'S GOING TO COST PROBABLY AT LEAST A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
SO THAT'S THE MAIN THING TOO, WHICH I THINK IS WORTH REVISITING.
JUST TO HEAR THOSE ISSUES AGAIN, PARTICULARLY ON THE BUS STOP.
IS HE, IS HE ALSO THE ONE REQUESTING THE CHANGE OR IS IT IS DUNNING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT REQUESTING THE CHANGE? UM, CAN YOU GET THAT DINING? IS THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY FOR SHEETS? OKAY.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT'S ASKING FOR THE REZONING.
WHERE'S THE GUY THAT OWNS THE PROPERTY.
I ASK, WHERE IS HE IN THE PROCESS? I DON'T KNOW.
AS AGAIN, I DID THIS BECAUSE OF THE BUS STOP AND I THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH REVISITING TO LOOK AT THAT ISSUE.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
CAN WE CLARIFY MR.
IS THAT THE CASE? YEAH, WE TALKED, UH, SIX O'CLOCK, SIX O'CLOCK ON THE 27TH, ACTUALLY.
I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE IT SEVEN O'CLOCK SEVEN O'CLOCK BECAUSE IT GIVES PEOPLE COMMUTERS OR WHATEVER AND OPPORTUNITIES SHOW UP LAST TUESDAY, MAY 25TH, 25TH.
HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE ON THAT NIGHT? THAT'S A REGULAR BOARD MEETING.
THAT'S THE FOURTH TUESDAY, MAN.
SO THAT IT WOULD BE JUST THIS ITEM AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT IS TUESDAY, MAY 25TH.
I THINK THAT WRONG DATE HAS BEEN MENTIONED.
THAT'S BECAUSE HAVING THIS ON A REGULAR BOARD MEETING NIGHT IS, UM, YEAH, THE LAST TUESDAY IN MAY IS MAY 25TH.
SO MR. CARTER HAS MADE HIS MOTION TO THE SECOND WAS DONE BEFORE THAT CLARIFICATION OUT SECOND IN MRS. HAYES, ROLL CALL PLEASE.
I I'M MY CONCERN HERE IS, ARE WE RUSHING INTO THIS AGAIN? I THINK, UM, I THINK IN HINDSIGHT THAT THERE WAS A WHOLE LOT OF EMOTION THAT WENT ON THE, THE NIGHT BEFORE.
AND I'VE SINCE LEARNED THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS.
YOU HAVE A YEAR THAT YOU CAN VOTE ON A REZONING AND, UM, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, THEN I DON'T WANT TO RUSH INTO IT AGAIN.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, SOMEHOW PLAYING THAT, NOT TO PERCEIVE THAT WE SHOULD MAKE A DECISION ON THE 25TH AGAIN, IF IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER HIGH EMOTION NIGHT.
UM, SO IF I MAY MA'AM YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE OPTION OF TABLING WHEN YOU VOTE.
RIGHT? YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO THAT.
YOU CAN DECIDE THAT AT THE TIME, HOW YOU WANT TO BE PAYING
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AND WHAT THE BOARD'S REACTION IS AT THE TIME AND HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT.YOU CAN, YOU CAN TABLE THAT PART OF IT.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO RECONSIDER TELL EVERYONE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO RECONSIDER.
AND THEN I TO RECONSIDER MRS. OATES.
[J. Closed Session - Virginia Freedom of Information Act 1. Section 2.2-3711(A)(l) Personnel re: Warren County Planning Commission 2. Sections 2.2-3711(A)(7) and (A)(8) for Consultation with Legal Counsel Pertaining to Actual or Probable Litigation and Consultation with Legal Counsel for the Provision of Legal Advice re: Economic Development Authority Matters]
UM, WE GO INTO A CLOSED SESSION.SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ US INTO CLOSED SESSION? EXCUSE ME.
OH, YOU HAVE A NEW, UM, THIS ONE IS THE LATEST, CORRECT? YEAH.
DO YOU WANT TO MEET WITH MR. CARTER FIRST OR SECOND? OKAY.
I THOUGHT WE GAVE HIM 11, SO I THOUGHT WE'LL TRY TO BE OUT BY LUCK.
UM, I MOVED THE BOARD ENTER INTO A CLOSED MEETING UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION TWO DOT TWO DASH THREE SEVEN ONE ONE A ONE OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT FOR THE DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ASSIGNMENT, APPOINTMENT, PROMOTION, PERFORMANCE, DEMOTION SALARIES, AND RESIGNATION OF A SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICER OF THE PUBLIC BODY.
I FURTHER MOVED THAT BE LIMITED TO THE WARREN COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.
I ALSO MOVED THE BOARD ENTER INTO A CLOSED MEETING UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTIONS TWO DOT TWO DASH THREE SEVEN ONE ONE EIGHT SEVEN AND EIGHT OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT FOR CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL PERTAINING TO ACTUAL OR PROBABLE LITIGATION AND THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF THE TOWN OF FORT ROYAL AND THE COUNTY OF WARREN, VIRGINIA, THE EDA, THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL, THE EDA VERSUS JENNIFER MACDONALD AT ALL THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL VERSUS THE EDA AT ALL, AND OTHER POTENTIAL CLAIMS AND LITIGATION RELATING TO OTHER POSSIBLE LIABILITIES OF THE EDA AND THE RECOVERY OF EDA FUNDS AND ASSETS.
AND FOR YAH, ROLL CALL MRS. HAYES, MR. FOX, MR. MABE, MADAM CHAIR.
DO YOU HAVE THE RIGHT ONE? YES.
MADAM CHAIR, I MOVED AT THE BOARD CERTIFIES TO THE BEST OF ITS MEMBERS, KNOWLEDGE ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MANAGER, LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER SECTION TWO DOT TWO DASH 37 11 A ONE AND 87 AND EIGHT OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BEDS IN SPANISH WERE IDENTIFIED IN AN EMOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVEYED WHERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING BY THE PUBLIC BODY.
ROLL CALL MRS. HAYES, MR. FOX.
[K. Additional New Business (If needed)]
ANY ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS? I HAVE ONE, UM, ONE REQUEST I WOULD LIKE FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER MOVING THIS MEETING THIS DAY, MEETING TO A 7:00 PM EVENING MEETING.I THINK THAT IT'S DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE AND RUN FOR OFFICE TO BE AVAILABLE AT 9:00 AM IN THE MORNING IF THEY ARE ACTIVELY EMPLOYED SOMEWHERE.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER THIS, TO MOVE IT TO THE 7:00 PM TIME SLOT, LIKE THE OTHER MEETINGS, UM, AND FOR THE FUTURE, WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT TODAY, OF COURSE, BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO PUT IT OUT THERE FOR CONSIDERATION.
WOULD YOU WANT THAT, UM, AND A WORK SESSION TO DISCUSS THE PROS AND CONS OF IT? THAT WOULD BE FINE IF THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD WOULD, UM, LIKE TO DO.
I JUST LIKE TO CONSIDER IT, I I'VE TALKED TO A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO RUN FOR SEATS AND THEY IN THE COUNTY AND THEY FIND IT DIFFICULT TO BE AVAILABLE FOR MORNING OR DAY MEETINGS.
WAY BACK WHEN THEY USED TO HAVE BOTH MEETINGS AT NIGHT.
AND I THINK PROBABLY IN THE LATE NINETIES, THEY CHANGED THE, UH, ONE MEETING, THE FIRST MEETING TO A DAY MEETING, PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT WAS BASICALLY NOTHING BUT REPORTS AND IT WAS HOUSEKEEPING THINGS, THE WHOLE THING.
AND THEN THE NIGHT MEETING, THAT'S WHEN YOU HAD THE, UM, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
AND I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A CONSIDERATION OR NOT, AT LEAST DURING THE DAY MEETING, YOU HAD ALL YOUR STAFF BE READILY AVAILABLE.
UM, AND I THINK THE THING NOW IS, UM, WITH THE DAY MEETING, OKAY.
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DIFFICULT FOR SOMEBODY THAT WORKS, MAYBE MAKE IT, BUT THE THING OF IT IS THAT THEY REALLY WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT MEETING THAT DAY.ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS GO TO YOUTUBE OR WHATEVER THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE IS, AND THEY CAN SEE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED.
SO I DON'T, I, WELL, THAT'S JUST THE REASONING BEHIND IT.
WELL, BUT IF WE ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU CAN'T MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF YOU AREN'T ABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING.
AND THERE ARE ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT TO THIS MEETING.
FOR INSTANCE, THE REQUEST FOR THE REZONING WAS TODAY IN A MORNING, WITHOUT PEOPLE ABLE TO COME AND SPEAK, THERE WAS ONLY ONE PERSON HERE WHO SPOKE ABOUT IT.
AND I THINK THAT IF WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION, WHICH I DO THAT, I THINK IT'S JUST MUCH MORE CONVENIENT TO, UH, I MEAN, YOU ARE ELIMINATING AN ENTIRE SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION FROM PARTICIPATING IN MEETINGS, BY HAVING A 9:00 AM MEETING.
I WILL TELL YOU, I HAVE TO TAKE OFF EVERY FIRST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH BECAUSE I AM FULL I'M A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE.
SO I HAVE TO TAKE OFF MY BOSS IS VERY CONSIDERATE.
HE CONSIDERS THE CIVIC DUTY, SO HE HAS NO PROBLEM WITH IT, BUT IT IS AN, IT IS A SACRIFICE THAT I MAKE EVERY FIRST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE FOR JUST THE CONSIDERATION OF MAYBE MOVING THIS MEETING TO A 7:00 PM TIME SLOT, SO ALL MEETINGS WOULD BE HELD IN THE EIGHTH PATTERN, BUT THEN YOU GET INTO THE PROBLEM FOR STAFF HAVING THAT, MAKE THEIR REPORTS TO HAVE TO COME TO COME TO THE MAINTENANCE AT NIGHT, RATHER THAN DURING THE REGULAR WORKING HOURS.
AND I DO CONSIDER THAT MR. FOX, I THINK THAT THAT IS, UH, UH, AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION.
I GUESS WE CAN HAVE A WORK SESSION AND WEIGH AND WEIGH THE PERSON CAUSE YEAH, YEAH, I THINK THEY DO.
WE COULD MAYBE FIGURE OUT, UH, THEIR WORKDAY STARTING LATER IN THE DAY AND ENDING LATER TO COMPENSATE THAT OR SOMETHING.
BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH TAKING TO A WORK SESSION AND DISCUSS, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SEE WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE.
SO, UM, AND I WILL ADD THAT MOST OF THE STAFF THAT MAKE REPORTS ARE HERE AT NIGHT ANYWAY, WITH, REGARDLESS OF WHEN WE HAVE SPECIAL MEETINGS OR WORK SESSIONS, THERE ARE, THEY'RE HERE TO REPORT.
THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE ATTENDING ANYWAY.
BUT THE VIRGINIA CODE PROVIDES THE FIRST MEETING OF THE YEAR, YOUR ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING, YOU SET THE DATES AND THE TIMES YOU CAN CHANGE IT MID YEAR, BUT THE LAW PROVIDES THAT YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO PUBLISH THE EXACT ENTIRE RESOLUTION WHEN YOU CHANGE THAT.
BUT IF YOU GUYS WANT TO DO THAT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO COORDINATE WITH ME FIRST, SO WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING, UM, AND PROVIDE THE PUBLIC NOTICE FOR THOSE FUTURE DATES.
YOU MEAN STARTING NOVEMBER, STARTING IN JULY, YOU COULD DOING THAT BEFORE.
COULD START WHENEVER YOU WANT IT.
IF YOU DECIDED YOU JUST NEED TO, THE BOARD NEEDS TO SAY WHEN THEY WANT TO DO THIS, AND THEN MR. HAM CAN WORK ON THE NOTE OF NOTICES TO DO THAT.
ANOTHER OPTION FOLLOWING ON WHAT COLOR'S WAS SAYING IS YOU COULD START ONE OF YOUR MEETINGS EARLIER AND HAVE STAFF REPORTS, THEN IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO AND HAVE THOSE OUT OF THE WAY AND DO PUBLIC COMMENTS LATE, CLOSER TO SEVEN.
WELL, WELL, I HAVE TO CHANGE THIS YEAR, MR. HAM.
I MEAN, I JUST WANT TO GIVE THIS A, I WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE FOR CONSIDERATION AND IT, PERHAPS WE TALK ABOUT IT AND WORK SESSION, BUT IT DOESN'T, WE DON'T IMPLEMENT UNTIL JANUARY WHEN YOU WRITE, I WASN'T MEANING TO BE POLITICAL THERE.
AND SHENANDOAH COUNTY DID THAT GOT RID OF THEIR MORNING MEETINGS.
UM, SO CERTAINLY SOMETHING YOU CAN DO, I'M JUST GIVING YOU THE HEADS UP, BUT IF I CAN, PRE-DRAFT IT, WE CAN MINIMIZE THE AD AND ALL THAT.
IT'S JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU THAT ALERT THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
SO CERTAINLY SOMETHING YOU CAN DO IF YOU WANT TO.
AND I DO KNOW SHENANDOAH COUNTY DID DO AWAY WITH THEIR DAY MEETING AS WELL, RIGHT? YES.
IF, UM, IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO THIS, I WOULD GO AHEAD AND DO I WOULDN'T WAIT.
I WOULDN'T DECIDE TO DO IT AND THEN WAIT UNTIL JANUARY TO DO IT BECAUSE YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO IT FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AND DECIDE IT'S NOT WORKING AND GO BACK TO DO IT THE OTHER WAY.
ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS? IS THERE A MOTION FOR A GERMAN THEN MOTION TO ADJOURN.
AND WE'VE GOT 15 MINUTES BEFORE WE MEET WITH MR. CARTER.
SO NOT BAD, PLEASE READING US OUT OF CLOSE MR. HAM.
AND IF SOMEONE CAN SAY SO MOVED, I MOVED THAT THE BOARD CERTIFIES TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE, ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS.
LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING
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REQUIREMENTS UNDER SECTION 2.2 DASH 37 11 A EIGHT OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS.THIS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVENED WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING BY THE PUBLIC BODY.
MRS. HAYES, MR. FOX, MR. MABE, MADAM CHAIR.
WELL, MR. CARTER, WE'RE ABOUT SIX MINUTES LATE ON OUR 11 O'CLOCK DATE, BUT I GUESS IT COULD BE WORSE.
I'M HOPING THE NUMBERS ARE BIGGER ON THIS ONE.
EVEN WITH MY NEW GLASSES THESE MASKS WERE NOT MADE FOR OLD FAT PEOPLE.
I'M NOT SURE THEY WERE MADE FOR YOUNG, SKINNY ONESY.
[WORK SESSION A. Discussion - Virginia Department of Transportation Secondary Six Year Plan - Ed Carter]
YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A, UH, IS THE WORKING DRAFT, UM, FOR WARREN COUNTY ON THE SIX YEAR SECONDARY SIX YEAR IMPROVEMENT PLAN.AND WE TRY TO GET THIS TO ALL THE BOARDS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, UH, UH, SINCE I'M LATE GETTING HERE WITH IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL HAVE A MEETING THIS MONTH WHERE I PUBLIC HEARING CAN BE SCHEDULED.
IT HAS TO BE IN THE PAPER TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE AND ONE WEEK IN ADVANCE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL FIT IN YOUR SCHEDULE, UH, FOR THIS MONTH, IF NOT, WE COULD, IF YOU COULD MAKE IT THE VERY 1ST OF JUNE, BECAUSE THE CTB WILL, UH, MEET IN MID JUNE TO VOTE ON THIS.
SO, UH, IF YOU WOULD KEEP THAT IN MIND WITH, UH, THE, UH, OVERALL PUBLIC HEARING AND SINCE THE GOVERNOR HAS RELAXED THE RULES, IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE VIRTUAL UNLESS YOU'RE EXPECTING I WASN'T OVER 200 PEOPLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S GENERALLY NOT THE CASE HERE.
UH, THIS FIRST SHEET THAT YOU SEE IS THE, UH, THE WORKING SHEET THAT, THAT WE GET FROM OUR BUDGETARY FOLKS, FOUR 22 THROUGH 27, A AND YOU WILL SEE TWO F COLUMN FIGURES THERE ON THERE.
THIS IS THE MONEY THAT, UH, HAS COLLECTED FROM UTILITIES, UH, WITHIN THE COUNTY.
AND, AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR FOR WHAT YOU COLLECT.
EVERYTHING GOES INTO THE STATEWIDE POT MINISTRY, DISTRIBUTED TO THE COUNTIES BASED ON, UH, THEIR POPULATION AND BRILLIANCE.
AND, AND I DON'T PLEASE DON'T ASK ME WHAT THE FORMULA IS, CAUSE IT'S WAY ABOVE MY HEAD.
AND THEN THE BOTTOM FIGURE IS CALLED DISTRICT GRANT ON PAVED AND WHAT THAT DID THAT MORE OR LESS REPLACED THE CTB FORMULA UNPAVED.
THERE USED TO BE A CTB FORMULA AND PAVED COLUMN.
THAT'S AT THE TOP THAT WENT AWAY, FORMULA SECONDARY, UH, WENT AWAY.
YEAH, THIS WENT AWAY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
AND SO NOW WE HAVE, UH, THE TELEPHONY FUNDS AND THE DISTRICT GRANT UNPAID AND THE DISTRICT GRANT ON PAGE IS DOLLARS THAT I SPECIFICALLY SPENT FOR A HARD SURFACING OF GRAVEL ROADS, THE TELEPHONY FUNDS, UM, WE CAN SHIFT THOSE TO, UH, ON CAVED OR WE CAN PUT THEM IN WHAT WE CALL A COUNTY-WIDE ENGINEERING SURVEY.
THE COUNTY-WIDE ENGINEERING AND SURVEY FUN IS A, IS A, UH, IT
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IS A FUND THAT IT GIVES US MOST FLEXIBILITY WITH THE DOLLARS.ONCE WE SHIFT THESE TELEPHONE FUNDS TO A, A SPECIFIC PROJECT, THAT'S WHERE THEY STAY.
UNTIL THE PROJECT IS EITHER DONE OR CANCELED.
IF THERE ARE ANY FUNDS LEFT OVER FROM THE PROJECT AFTER IT'S COMPLETED, THEN WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY WITH THOSE LEFTOVER FUNDS.
SO I TRY TO PUT EVERYTHING FROM TELEPHONE FEE INTO COUNTYWIDE ENGINEERING AND SURVEY.
WHICH IS NOT SHOWN ON THAT PARTICULAR SHEET.
UM, WHEN I, WHEN WE DID MORE IN COUNTIES, WE WERE OVERSPENT AND SOME PROJECTS THAT WE DID LAST YEAR.
AND SO WE HAD TO USE THE TELEPHONY FUNDS FOR THE FIRST YEAR TO HELP MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE.
CAUSE WE CAN'T EAT WHEN WE OVERSPEND THE DOLLARS, I GOT TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE.
SO THAT TELEPHONY FUNDS DID NOT GO TO THE, UM, COUNTY WIDE ENGINEERING AND SURVEY FOR THE FIRST HERE.
IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE TWO, OKAY, THIS IS THE MAJOR PROJECTS ON YOUR SECONDARY THAT ARE BEING FUNDED.
AND THAT IS THE HAPPY CREEK ROAD PROJECT.
YOU GOT A REALLY GOOD BID ON IT AND TELL US DONE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY'S WILL BE LEFT ON IT, BUT WE ANTICIPATE SOME DOLLARS WILL BE LEFT ON IT.
THAT WAS FUNDED BY SMART SCALE DOLLARS.
SO ANYTHING THAT IS LEFT ON IT WILL GO BACK INTO THE SMART SCALE POT.
IT'S NOT, WE JUST CAN'T MOVE IT SOMEPLACE ELSE.
IF YOU'LL LOOK AT SHEET THREE, THESE ARE THE, UH, PROJECTS THAT WERE ON LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.
AND THE PRIORITY THAT WAS SET BACK IN 2019, UM, THESE ARE THE ROCKY HOLLOW LANE, WHICH OF COURSE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
AND WE STILL HAVE SOME MONIES WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ON PART OF THAT THIS YEAR, BUT THE FULL FUNDING FOR IT DOESN'T BECOME AVAILABLE UNTIL NEXT SUMMER UNTIL JULY OF 23.
NOW THIS IS WHERE THAT WE CAN SHIFT SOME FUNDS FROM, UH, AND NEXT YEAR IN 2022, WE CAN SHIFT SOME FUNDS TO, FROM THE COUNTYWIDE ENGINEERING SURVEY UP THERE TO COMPLETE THAT FINISHED OUT.
AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THESE FUNDS THAT ARE ON THE ROCKY HOLLOW LANE FOR 2023 AND PUT THEM ON ANOTHER PROJECT.
KENDRICK FORD LANE WAS THE NEXT PRIORITY.
THOSE FUNDS DON'T BECOME AVAILABLE UNTIL 2024 PANHANDLE ROAD.
THE SECOND PIECE DOESN'T BECOME AVAILABLE UNTIL 2024 AND WILLIAM BENSON ROAD DOESN'T BECOME AVAILABLE UNTIL 2026.
ALL OF THIS IS PREDICATED ON WHAT THE ESTIMATED PROJECTED REVENUES ARE.
THOSE PROJECTED REVENUES FALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THEY DID THIS PAST YEAR.
THEN THOSE SCHEDULES CAN GET PUSHED OUT.
IF THEY RISE ABOVE THAT, IT'S POSSIBLE.
WE CAN MAKE THESE SCHEDULES BACK IN NOW, WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE AS THE CURRENT PRIORITIES, THE BOARD HAS THE OPTION OF CHANGING THESE PRIORITIES BEFORE THIS FUNDING BECOMES AVAILABLE.
AND THIS IS WHERE I ENCOURAGED THE BOARD TO ADOPT AND UTILIZE THE RANKING SYSTEM THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY.
THEY MIGHT STAY RIGHT WHERE THEY'RE AT.
BUT ONCE YOU GET ALL OF THE DATA LOADED, IT MIGHT TURN OUT THAT THERE'S ONE HERE THAT HASN'T BEEN IDENTIFIED YET THAT HAS A HIGHER RANKING THAN THAT.
OR CONVERSELY, ONE OF THESE, UH, UH, VINCENT FORD RE UH, WILLIAM VINCENT ROAD, FOR INSTANCE, ON THE RANKING
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SYSTEM MAY NEED TO COME BEFORE KENDRICK FORD.UM, MAYBE NOT DIRECTED TO YOU, BUT DIRECTED TO MIKE BARRY AND HIS GROUP OVER THERE WHO IS GOING TO HELP US MAKE THAT DECISION.
I MEAN, I'M SITTING HERE AND I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT, UM, THIS ROAD CAN ACTUALLY BE MOVED UP WHERE OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND OUR PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY DO THE WORK CAN HELP US MAKE THAT DECISION.
WELL, UH, UH, WHAT MIKE AND HIM ARE DOING OKAY, IS WITH YOUR SANITARY DISTRICTS.
THIS IS ALL I PUTTING TOGETHER THE, UH, THE RANKING SYSTEM.
AND SO ONCE HE GETS THAT TOGETHER AND THE BOARD AGREES THAT THE DATA HE'S USING AND THE WAY THAT HE IS USING IT OKAY.
IS SATISFACTORY TO IDENTIFY THEIR PRIORITIES.
HEY, THEN THEY WILL, HE WILL GIVE US THAT DATA AND WE WILL IDENTIFY THOSE ROADS AND PRESENT THAT TO THE BOARD.
AND THEN THE BOARD WILL DECIDE IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? UM, FOR NOW? YES.
MR. FOX, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AND YES, JUST ON THE PANHANDLE ROAD, THERE'S A SMALL PUMP THAT CAN HANDLE ONE LOT THAT WE'D LIKE TO GET.
PANHANDLED COMPLETELY REGRADED AND HARD SURFACED, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AND THAT'S, UNLESS YOU HAVE THE PROPER WIDTH, YOU CAN'T GO FORWARD, BUT WE HAVE A HOMEOWNER THAT WILL NOT GIVE THAT RIGHT AWAY.
CAN WE, CAN WE PUT THEM A RURAL RUSTIC ROAD RIGHT IN FRONT OF THAT PROPERTY AND CONTINUE AT THE HARD SURFACING? WELL, YEAH, BUT PANHANDLE WAS DONE ON THE ROAD WAS THE CONCEPT ANYWAYS.
SO WE DON'T NEED ADDITIONAL RIGHT AWAY.
THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION AND VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU, MR. MR. CARTER, IS THE FLYOVER ON ROCKLIN ROAD PART OF THIS PROCESS OR WHERE DOES IT FALL? THAT IS BEING DONE BY GRANT MONEY.
AND THEN PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR THIS SPRING.
MATTER OF FACT, I BELIEVE THEY'RE TRYING TO SCHEDULE IT FOR THIS MONTH.
I HAVEN'T GOT THE FINAL WORD ON IT YET.
NOW THAT, THAT, THAT IS INDEPENDENT OF THIS.
IT WILL APPEAR, YOU KNOW, FOR THE BOARDS INFORMATION ON OR FOR THE PUBLIC'S INFORMATION, BUT IT WILL BE IDENTIFIED AS GRANT MONEY, NOT RIGHT.
CAUSE THEY'RE COLLECTING ALL OF IT FROM VARIOUS OTHER SOURCES.
UM, MR. BARRY, DO YOU KNOW, CAN YOU MAKE SURE I KNOW WHEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING, WELL, IF IT WILL, WE'LL BE HERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE WILL BE HELD IN THIS ROOM.
BUT IT WILL BE HELD IN THIS LOCALITY.
AND, AND WE, THEY WILL PUBLISH IT TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE AND ONE WEEK IN ADVANCE AND YOUR LOCAL NEWSPAPERS.
AND WE WILL BE SURE THAT THE BOARD GETS A SEPARATE NOTICE ABOUT THE PUBLIC.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S A PAIN POINT.
UM, I THINK W LIKE WHEN THEY DID THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION IN BENTONVILLE, THEY USED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T NECESSARILY COME HERE.
W UH, I W AS I SAID, WITH THE GOVERNOR RELAXING, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT CAN JOIN, UH, IT HAS TO BE GAY COMPLIANT.
YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO MEET ALL THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS WHEREVER WE OWN IT.
BUT, BUT THE BOARD WILL GET THAT NOTICE BEFORE THAT.
I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND I KNOW ROCKY HALL, ROCKY HOLLER ROAD GOT STARTED LAST YEAR.
AND YOU SAID YOU, YOU TOOK SOME OF THE FUNDING FROM THAT TOWARDS DOWNING, FARM AND PANHANDLE THAT RENT RAN OVER.
UM, AND THAT WE'RE NOW DOING IT IN TWO PHASES.
AND THEN WE HAD A CONVERSATION BACK SEVERAL MONTHS THAT, UM, USING V DOT CREWS VERSUS A CONTRACTOR.
AND THAT IT COULD POSSIBLY BE DONE IN DOING EITHER DOING THAT AND GETTING IT DONE THIS SUMMER, OR, YOU KNOW, SO WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? OUR PLAN IS TO GO AHEAD AND GET ALL THE PIPES AND THE PIPES WERE PURCHASED.
SO OUR PLAN IS TO GO AHEAD AND GET ALL THE PIPES IN, TRY TO GET THE STONE UP.
AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE DOLLARS THAT WE LEFT.
WE KEPT SOME MONEY ON ROCKY HOLLER TO CONTINUE THAT, UH, AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE OVERSPENT OUR SNOW BUDGET FOR THE ENTIRE DISTRICT,
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SO THAT WHEN, WHEN YOU OVERSPEND YOUR SNOW BUDGET, THEY TAKE MAINTENANCE DOLLARS TO MAKE UP THAT DEF DEFICIT.THE CENTRAL OFFICE KEEPS A CONTINGENCY FUND FOR THE WHOLE STATE.
FOR UNFORESEEN THINGS, WE WERE ABLE TO GET, UH, SOME OF THOSE FUNDS BACK THROUGH THAT CONTINGENCY FUND.
SO THAT GIVES US MORE FLEXIBILITY ON THE MAINTENANCE SIDE.
SO SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S BEING DONE ON, ON ROCKY HOLLER, WE CAN FUND WITH SOME OTHER SOURCES.
UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WILL GET HIT HARD SURFACED ALL THE WAY THIS YEAR.
BUT WE PLAN TO HAVE IT READY TO GO.
AND SO ANYTIME ADDITIONAL FUNDS COME UP, OR IF WE SEE WE DIDN'T SPEND AS MUCH OVER HERE AND WE CAN SHIFT THAT OVER IS TO GET THAT DONE, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL BE REPLACING THE PIPES AND ADDING THE STONE.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT ISSUE WITH THE POND UP THERE.
CAUSE THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, I DIDN'T KNOW.
I KNOW THE TREES HAVE BEEN MARKED, UH, THE PIPES HAVE BEEN MARKED.
I HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVEN'T REMOVED ANY OF THE TREES, BUT, UM, I KNOW I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS UP NEAR THE POND, WHERE, UM, FROM THE INTERSECTION OF ACRE AND HILL TO ROCKY HOLLOW, IT WASHES DOWN AND ALL THAT SEDIMENT IS, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY OWNERS THERE, THEY'RE THREATENING TO SUE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S RUINED THEIR PROPERTY.
THEY CAN'T PLANT THEIR GARDEN THERE IT'S, UM, EVEN RE MOWING THE GRASS IS BASICALLY THEIR MO AND ROCKS.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY UPSET ABOUT IT.
AND THEN THERE'S A SMALL STREAM OF SOME SORT.
IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH CALL CREEK, BUT IT IS, UM, A CONSISTENT, UM, SPRING THERE THAT IT'S WASHING IN AND FILL IN THAT AS WELL.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THERE'S MORE TO THAT AREA THERE, AND IT'S A, IT'S JUST A HIGH MAINTENANCE.
IT IS A HIGH-MAINTENANCE AREA.
NOW, GIVEN SOME OF THE RAINS, NOT THIS YEAR, BUT THAT WE'VE HAD IN PAST YEARS, THIS IS NOT GOING TO STOP STUFF FROM WASHINGTON.
I KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, TAR AND GRAVEL IS NOT GOING TO WASH THE WAY GRAVEL AND MUD DOES.
AND THERE'S WHERE THE PROBLEM IS.
IT'S SUCH A STEEP, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE GRADE IS.
IT'S NOT PAST A GRADE OF BEING ABLE TO DO YOUR WORK, BUT IT'S ENOUGH THAT WHEN IT RAINS, IT ALL WASHES DOWN HILL RIGHT ACROSS THEIR PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S, DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE A REALLY SIGNIFICANT RAIN.
SO BEING ABLE TO WRAP THOSE, UM, THOSE DITCHES IN TAR AND GRAVEL THEM, IT'S GOING TO CUT DOWN ON A LOT OF THE SEDIMENT AND I KNOW NOBODY CAN SUE V DOT FOR RUNNING WATER, BUT YOU CAN'T RUN THE SEDIMENT ON THEM.
SO THERE'S WHERE THEY, THEY KIND OF HAVE US IN, UH, AND, UM, IT'S, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF BUILDUP ON THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S FOR CERTAIN, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, WE CAN'T CONTROL THE W UH, OUR RESPONSIBILITY STOPS AND THE RIGHT OF WAY LIONS.
AND, AND OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO CARRY THE WATER, WHICH WE GOT DOES NOT, UM, CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF TO ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD, TO THE OTHER.
WHAT GETS IN THAT MORTAR BETWEEN THERE? OKAY.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A LOT WE CAN DO TO CONTROL IT.
NOW, ONCE WE HARD SURFACE THAT THAT'LL HELP WITH THE SURFACE GRAVEL, BUT IT WILL NOT HELP WITH THE DITCH WASH AND STUFF THAT COMES DOWN.
SO, BUT ANY CASE WHERE WE'RE AWARE THAT ISSUE, YOU AND I TALKED AND, AND WE WILL DO WHAT WE CAN TO ALLEVIATE THAT.
AND, UM, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOME KIND OF SURFACE TREATMENT THERE, I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE TO PUT DOWN DUST CONTROL BECAUSE IT'S A WASTE.
UM, BUT IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING DONE, IT'S GETTING PRETTY DARN DUSTY ON THOSE PEOPLE.
AND THEY, AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO THE ROAD THERE.
WELL, WE, WE, WE DON'T MIND PUTTING DOWN, UH, BRIAN.
THE CHLORIDE IS PRETTY EXPENSIVE NOW.
UM, WE, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT DEPENDS ON HOW OUR MAINTENANCE FUNDS RUN.
REMEMBER WHERE WE STARTING AT, WE'RE ALREADY SHORT.
WE GOT TO THAT CHLORIDE LAST LONGER.
SO, AND WE MIGHT, IT MIGHT BE SUCH A SITUATION THAT WE CAN PUT IT DOWN JUST IN FRONT OF THEIR PLACE.
THOSE HOMES THAT ARE, I LITERALLY WALK OUT THE DOOR, YOU'RE ON THIS WALKING INTO THE ROAD.
UM, AND I, AND I DO UNDERSTAND, AND VERY, UM, UM, COST
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AWARE OF IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING ANY KIND OF, UM, PAVEMENT OR WORK THERE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT IT DOWN, THEN SCOOP IT UP.I DON'T WANT THAT, BUT I DO WANT YOU TO BE AWARE THAT IT IS, UM, AN ISSUE WITH THE, WITH THE DUSTIN IT'S ALREADY STARTED.
SO WE CAN LOOK FOR SOME MOVEMENT ON THAT ROAD THEN, UM, THIS YEAR.
NOW THE PANHANDLE ROAD, NUMBER TWO, THIS IS, IF YOU'RE SITTING AT, UM, THAT INTERSECTION OF WILSON, BURKE PANHANDLE, THOSE RIGHT, RIGHT.
AND LEFT THAT THIS DEPART THAT'S ON HERE.
THIS IS FROM SIX 19 TO SIX OH EIGHT IT'S HALF A MILE.
SO THE PART THAT MR. FOX WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER IS NOT ON A PLAN AT ALL AT THIS POINT.
OKAY, BOB, JUST SAYING, WE DON'T NEED RIGHT AWAY.
YOU DON'T NEED TO WRITE, BUT I WAS RE I WASN'T REFERRING TO THIS, THIS PART HERE.
I WAS REFERRING TO THE SOUTHERN PART OF IT.
THERE'S A WORD THAT A HARD, SEPARATE STOPS AT SOUTHERN END.
AND IF YOU WANT THAT DONE, AND THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO THE PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR, EITHER THAT, OR WE NEED TO DROP ONE OF THESE, BUT THIS IS, THESE ARE ALL THE FUNDS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT, LET MIKE FINISH UP THE RANKING THING AND SEE HOW IT FALLS, HOW THAT PIECE FALLS COMPARED TO A PIECE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
BUT IF WE WANT TO GET ROADS, WE WANT TO PLAN, UH, EVEN IF IT'S, WE WANT TO KEEP THESE FOR THE WAY THEY ARE.
SHOULDN'T WE START COMPILING A LIST OF ONCE THESE ARE DONE, WE WANT YES.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE USE THE RANKING SYSTEM TO COMPILE THE REMAINDER OF THAT LIST.
AND IF THEY, THEY WOULD BE THEN PUT ON THE PLAN, UH, ALL IN THE UPLOAD ELEMENT FOR THE SPRING OF 2022.
SO, SO WE NEED, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS MEETING IS FOR TODAY TO START.
NO, THIS IS THE TAGGING WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH TODAY AND WHERE IT'S ASSIGNED.
UM, THE TELOPHASE YOU, YOU AND I HAD DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS ON MY UTILITY BILL, MY TELEPHONE BILL.
I THINK THEY CALL THAT, UH, THE RIGHT OF WAY FEE.
AND I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION IS WHEN THIS IS ALL RURAL RUSTIC FUNDING, BASICALLY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THIS IS DISTRICT A DISTRICT GRANT.
UNPAID IS PRIMARILY ALL WE HAVE TO WORK WITH IN THIS CURRENT SIX YEAR CYCLE.
THE TELEPHONY FUNDS THAT COME, THEY HAVE TO BE ZEROED OUT FOR OUR BUDGET PURPOSES.
SO WE MOVED THOSE EITHER TO A RURAL RUSTIC PROJECT OR SOME OTHER SECONDARY PROJECT, OR WE PUT THEM IN WHAT'S CALLED COUNTY WIDE ENGINEERING AND SURVEY.
WE HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY OKAY.
WITH THE FUNDS WHEN THEY GO TO COUNTY-WIDE ENGINEERING AND SURVEY, AND THAT OUR FUNDS THAT WE USE FOR, UH, THINGS THAT, UH, IT'S NOT A CONTINGENCY THING BECAUSE WE NEED TO SPEND IT, BUT IT'S FUNDS FOR THINGS THAT UNFORESEEN THAT COME UP, FOR INSTANCE, UH, THE SCALING OF THE CLIFF AROUND THERE.
WE COULD USE THEM FOR THAT, OR IF WE'RE SHORT OR A RULE RUSTIC ROAD WHERE WE OVERSPENT BECAUSE OF SOMETHING OCCURRED ON IT, A HUNDRED PERCENT.
IF THERE, IF WE WANT IT, LET'S, LET'S SAY THAT, UH, WE HAVE FUNDS AT 2024.
AND, BUT WE CAN'T START TILL WE HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT AND ANOTHER 5% COMES IN AT 2025.
WE CAN TAKE THOSE FUNDS, FIND SOME THE COUNTYWIDE OR WHAT WAS TELEPHONE AND MOVE THAT INTO 20, 24.
AND GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT PROJECT UP A YEAR.
IT WAS SCHEDULED FOR THAT PROJECT IN 20, 25 AND MOVE THAT TO ANOTHER,
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TO HELP ADVANCE IT.SO WHEN YOUR MONEY COMES IN, I GUESS WHEN I LOOKED AT THAT, I WAS NIVELY THINKING THAT WHATEVER 40,000 PEOPLE IN WARREN COUNTY PAID THAT, THAT STAYED IN WARREN COUNTY, I DIDN'T REALIZE IT GOES ON THE POT AND GETS DISTRIBUTED.
I WASN'T IN ANY COUNTY UNDER THE CODE, IT GOES ALL INTO THE POT, AT THE STATE, AND THEN IT'S DISTRIBUTED ABOUT FORMULA AND WOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT FORMULA IS.
CAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE, AND I ASKED YOU, AND YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE, UM, THE AMOUNTS THERE.
SO YOU HAVE A RURAL RUSTIC AMOUNT OF MONEY TO SPEND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
AND THEN THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL THAT ISSUE DISTRICT GRANT.
AND THEN YOU HAVE, I GUESS I, I WONDER, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT TO DO WHOLE COUNTY AND THEN THE REVENUE SHARING GOES IN, COMES IN AND FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE.
THE COUNTY HAS, HAS, UH, THE OPTION OF ENTERING OF SUBMITTING FOR REVENUE SHARING.
THAT IS WHERE THE COUNTY OR THE LOCALITY, WHICHEVER SUBMITTING IN THIS CASE FROM ROYAL AND, AND, UH, WARREN COUNTY, THE ONLY TWO THAT ARE ELIGIBLE TO SUBMIT REVENUE, SHARING FRAUD, OKAY.
THEN THE COUNTY PUTS UP 50% OF THE MONEY AND THE STATE PUTS UP 50% OF THE MONEY.
THE WAY THAT THE COUNTY HAS HISTORICALLY USED THE REVENUE SHARING PROGRAM.
IS THEY HAVE USED THAT TO BRING ROADS UP TO STANDARD IN THEIR SANITARY.
I HAD TO BRING INTO THE STATE FOR US TO MAINTAIN AND THEY HAVE USED MIKE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
BUT 25% OF THE 50% NAME FROM THE SANITARY DISTRICT, THE OTHER 25% COMES FROM THE COUNTY.
AND THEN THE OTHER 50% COMES FROM THE STATE.
SO THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE THEIR, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THEY, THEY ALLOT YOU SO MUCH.
THIS IS ALL WE'RE GIVING YOU FOR YOUR RURAL RUSTICS FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
AND THIS IS HOW MUCH WE GIVE YOU IN A POT FOR REVENUE SHARING.
NO, THE REVENUE SHARING IS, IS DIFFERENT THAN THAT.
THE CTB ESTABLISHES THE YEARLY AMOUNT FOR THE ENTIRE STATE AND THEN YOUR REVENUE SHARING PROJECTS ARE SUBMITTED AND THEIR PRI UH, UNDER, UH, TIERS PRIORITY TIERS.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S, I BELIEVE THE STATE'S REVENUE SHARING THIS YEAR.
THAT'S GOING TO 109 COUNTIES IF THEY APPLY.
AND SAY, WHAT THEY DO IS LOOK AT THE PRIORITY OF THOSE REVENUE.
I MEAN, WHAT THE RANKINGS OF THOSE REVENUE SHARING PROJECTS ARE IN TERMS OF WEIGHING THEIR VALUE FOR THE DOLLAR.
AND LET'S SAY YOU FALL IN RANKING ONE, THEN YOU WOULD GET WHAT YOU REQUESTED.
IF YOU FALL IN RANKING TWO, YOU MIGHT, YOU MAY ONLY GET PART OF IT.
AND IF YOU FALL ON RANKING THREE, YOU MIGHT END UP TWO OR THREE YEARS OUT.
WELL, WE HAVE DONE OTHER PROJECTS, UM, OUTSIDE THE SANITARY, LIKE ROCKY LANE, ROCKY LANE WAS A REVENUE SHARING PRODUCT.
BUT YOU DID THAT BECAUSE YOU HAD LEFT OVER FROM RIGHT, RIGHT.
AND THEN THEY MOVED THIS FENCE, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CURRENT REVENUE.
OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICTS NOW, AND THE DISTRICTS ALSO DO PAY A HUNDRED PERCENT OF ALL UTILITY RELOCATIONS.
I JUST WASN'T SURE HOW THAT, HOW THAT WORKED.
IF, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE DIFFERENT ALLOTMENTS OR HOW THAT WORKS.
IT'S NOT, IT IT'S, IT'S INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS STAND ALONE DECIDING, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY GET AND, AND IT, IT ALSO DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH MONEY THE STATE TAKES IN TERMS OF HOW BIG THE STATE POT IS.
I BELIEVE IT'S A HUNDRED MILLION NOW WE'RE GETTING READY TO SUBMIT THIS, ANOTHER CYCLE OF REVENUE SHARING.
AND I DON'T KNOW, KNOW IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU WANT GO INTO SOME OF YOUR OTHER SECONDARY ROADS AND DO THAT WITH REVENUE SHARING AND THAT'S THE COUNTY'S PROPERTY, BUT IF IT'S NOT IN A SANITARY DISTRICT AND THE COUNTY IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE 50%.
I JUST WAS CURIOUS HOW, HOW THEY DISTRIBUTE THAT IF YOU'RE GIVEN X NUMBER OF DOLLARS AND YOU KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.
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KENDRICK FORD IS NOT FUNDED AT THIS POINT, BUT HOPEFULLY BY 2024, IT WILL BE YES.SAME THING WITH PANHANDLED TWO PHASE AND WILLIAM VINCENT, THE EXPECTATION IS BY THOSE DATES THAT THEY'LL EITHER BE FULLY FUNDED OR PARTIALLY BOUGHT.
AND WHAT THE, WELL, THESE ARE THE DATES THAT THEY'RE FULLY FUNDED.
THEY MIGHT GET PARTIALLY FUNDED BEFORE THAT.
I HAVEN'T SEEN THE SPREADSHEET YET.
IF THEY'RE PARTIALLY FUNDED BEFORE, AS I WAS EXPLAINING IT TO YOU, LET'S SAY THAT THE FULL FUNDING AT ON AT THE 2024, 20, 26 IS ONLY 5%.
CAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN FUNDED UP TO THAT POINT.
THEN YOU MAY CHOOSE TO MOVE IT BACK A YEAR.
BY PULLING IN A COUNTY-WIDE ENGINEERING SURVEY OR, OR PUTTING CALIPER INTO IT.
AND WE WOULD, WHEN THEY, WHEN WE, AT THAT POINT ON EACH ONE, WE WOULD GIVE THE BOARD ADVICE, YOU KNOW, OR WHAT WE WOULD SUGGEST, BUT STILL OFF THE WAY THE BOARD'S DECISION.
ON, UM, I'M LOOKING AT THESE SHEETS THAT WERE IN OUR PACKET.
UM, AND THEY'RE HARD EVEN WITH MY NEW GLASSES.
I'M TRYING TO GET IT DOWN ON HERE.
IT LOOKS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF THESE NUMBERS ARE STILL GOOD.
CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS SOME THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN THE FIRST PHASE OF PANHANDLE WHERE I'VE GOT SOMETHING YOU DON'T, UH, I MAY HAVE IT HERE UNDER A D LET ME KIND OF MY APPROACH AND SEE SURE.
I HAVE HAD MY SHOTS BY THE WAY.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE THIS SHOULDN'T THIS SHOULD NOT BE WE'RE IN A PROCESS.
WELL, THAT'S WHY I WAS CURIOUS AS TO IF THESE DOLLAR AMOUNTS WERE STILL ACCURATE OR NOT.
SO CLEARLY THE, THE, THIS IS AN AMMONIA STOCK THAT WENT AWAY.
SO HE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE 2020.
THEY HAD, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THEY DON'T HAVE THE COPY OF THE 20, 20, NOT THAT BRIDGE SHEET.
SO THAT'S THE MOST RECENT JUST FOR, OH, OKAY.
THE MOST RECENT ONE WAS START AT 21, 22 AND IT'LL BE A SHEET LIKE THAT.
21, 22 AND, AND, UH, UH, UH, PENDING WHETHER YOU MAKE ANY CHANGES HERE, WE'VE GOT THAT AT THE OFFICE READY TO PRINT OUT.
I WAS GOING TO SAY, WHAT WAS THE FINAL DOLLAR AMOUNT? IF THESE, ALL THESE OTHERS DON'T HAVE THAT SHEET WITH HIM.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHY, HOW YOU ALL ENDED UP WITH THAT, BUT I'D BE LUCKY THAN GOOD.
SO IF YOU WERE JUST THIS, JUST THROW THAT ONE AWAY AND YOU WILL GET A NEW ONE THAT SHOWS THE SPREAD THAT REFLECTS WHAT YOU HAVE RIGHT HERE.
AND YOU KNOW, WHEN COVID HIT, UH, PROJECTED REVENUE, IT WAS DONE IN APRIL, 2019, OBVIOUSLY WENT DOWN NOW.
I DON'T THINK THAT THEY WENT DOWN AS MUCH AS PEOPLE ANTICIPATED, BUT THEY WENT DOWN A LOT MORE THAN WHAT WE ANTICIPATED BEFORE IT YET.
SO THAT'S WHY THESE PROJECTS ARE PUSHED OUT RIGHT NOW.
I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH THAT OUR BUDGET IS BUILT ON PROJECTED REVENUES.
THE ONLY THING WE'RE FAIRLY COMFORTABLE WITH IS 2022.
NOW, IF, IF WE GET BACK TO SOME SENSE OF NORMALCY AND, AND, UH, PEOPLE START DOING THINGS TO GENERATE REVENUE FOR V DOT, OKAY, THEN THOSE REVENUES RISE, THEN WE SHOULD SEE THAT SCHEDULE COME BACK IN.
BUT WHO KNOWS, WHETHER THAT'LL HAPPEN.
ONE THING THAT THIS HAS TAUGHT US ALL IN ALL INDUSTRY IS THAT WE CAN DO A LOT OF WORK REMOTELY THAT WE DIDN'T THINK WE COULD DO BEFORE.
SO ONE OF OUR MAJOR REVENUE GENERATORS IS THE TAX ON WHOLESALE CANCELING.
I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT INCREASED.
DOES THAT GET DISTRIBUTED OUT OR WAS THAT EAR MARKED IN ALL, WENT FOR INTERSTATE
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IMPROVED THE, UH, THE, THE INCREASE ON THOSE COUNTIES THAT ADJOIN THE INTERSTATE.COUNTIES WHO DON'T ADJOIN THE INTERSTATE.
THEY DON'T GET AS THE INTERSTATE DOESN'T GET AS MUCH OF IT.
SO SINCE WE JOINED THE INTERSTATE, WE GOT THAT INCREASE.
WE DON'T GET THE BENEFIT OF OUR INCREASE EXCEPT FOR THE INTERSTATE.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
THERE'S, THERE'S $2 BILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS ON 81 IN THE FIRST PHASE.
SO THOSE, ALL THOSE FUNDS ALONG THE ENTIRE QUARTER THAT COME IN, GO INTO THAT 2 BILLION.
SO YOU SEE THE BENEFIT OF IT FOR THEM, UH, WHEN A PROJECT IS DONE IN YOUR AREA, RIGHT.
THAT'S WHY I MET, IT'S GOING TO PAY FOR THE INTERSTATE.
IT'S NOT GOING FOR ANYTHING TO TRICKLE DOWN.
THEY PUT A LOCK BOX ON THOSE FUNDS THAT HAS TO BE SPELLED ON THE INTERSTATE.
NOW, ONCE THAT'S DONE, CAN WE HOPE THAT THAT, CAUSE THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO LOWER THAT TAX NOW THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WAY ABOVE MY PAY.
MR. CARTER, YOU GOT ANOTHER COPY OF YOUR REPORT.
LET ME BE SURE THAT, THAT IF YOU HAVE EXTRA LEFT, UH, DR.
DALEY, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I MEAN, I SAW YOU WERE TO USE YOUR HAND AND IT NEVER WENT ANYWHERE.
AND I, I DON'T THINK JUST IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION EARLIER, SIR, THAT THE RV DOT ROADS AND WE DO DO THE SANITARY DISTRICTS, BUT IF THE BOARD HAS A QUESTION ABOUT A ROAD STAFF, IT'S MIKE AND MICHAEL.
THAT'S THE WAY THAT I UNDERSTOOD IT.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING TOO, WAS THAT YOUR, YOUR THOUGHT IS THAT PRIORITY SYSTEM PROBABLY WON'T KICK INTO THE SPRING OF NEXT YEAR TOO, FOR THAT CYCLE VERSUS THIS CYCLE, BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO NEED TIME AND SO FORTH TO YEAH.
MY CASH, UH, FINISH, UH, WITH THE RANKING, UNLESS HE SUPERMAN AND ALREADY.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WAS THAT WE DON'T EXPECT TO GET INTO THAT WITH THAT RANKING UNTIL NEXT SPRING, PROBABLY, BUT YOU WANT THE RANKING DONE BY NEXT SPRING, RIGHT? SO YOU NEED TO FINISH UP THE CRITERIA.
AND RIGHT NOW, UH, AFTER OUR LAST SESSION, ONLY ONE SUPERVISOR HAS BROUGHT ANY ADDITIONS IN TO PUT IN THE CRITERIA FOR MIKE SO THAT MIKE CAN GET THAT FINISHED AND THEN THEY CAN BE DOING THE ROAD.
SO THAT BY WINTER YOU HAVE YOUR LIST LOOK AT SO THAT YOU CAN GET IT TO VIDOT AT THE TIME, BY NEXT SPRING FOR RIGHT.
AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME TO GO OUT AND EVALUATE THE ROADS AFTER YOU DO THE CRITERIA.
AND THE EXPECTATION OF THE BOARD IS THAT THAT GETS BROUGHT TO US BEFORE SENT TO VITA SO THAT WE HAVE A SECOND LOOK AT IT.
OF THE NUMBER ONE TO FINISH THE CRITERIA.
AND THEN NUMBER TWO, THE FINISHED PRODUCT THAT THIS IS HOW WE RANK THE ROADS AND YOU CAN SEE THEM YEAH.
AT THE LATEST WE WOULD YOUR RANKING.
SO WE CAN GET IT INTO OUR BUDGET, UH, BY THE END OF FEBRUARY, 2022.
SO FEBRUARY IS, I HEARD, I HEARD FEBRUARY, END OF FEBRUARY, THEY WON'T OPEN UP, UH, OUR ACCOUNTING SYSTEM USUALLY UNTIL THE 1ST OF MARCH, WHICH MEANS THE BOARD REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH IT LIKE JANUARY.
AND, AND YOU, AND, UH, OTHER COUNTIES, YOU WOULD NEED TO HAVE YOUR PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT RANKING SYSTEM AND THEN ADOPT YOUR RESOLUTION SO THAT IT BECOMES PART OF YOUR, YOUR BUSINESS PRACTICES.
AM I RIGHT ON THAT? SO IF THERE ARE OTHER CRITERIA YOU WANT TO PUT IN THIS RANKING SYSTEM, YOU NEED TO GET THEM TO MIKE MICHAEL, SO WE CAN GET THIS FINISHED AND THE BOARD CAN ADOPT IT, THAT WE CAN GET STARTED.
I THINK IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, THE ISSUE, WASN'T THE CRITERIA, THE WEIGHTING OF THE CRITERIA THAT COULD THAT'S PART OF THE CRITERIA, THE, THE OUTCOME.
AND SO THE STATISTICAL ANALYSIS IS THE BIG KEY, RIGHT? I THINK MISS OATES HAD A, UM, JUST A SUGGESTION ON THE ACCIDENT.
DATA WAS THE ONLY REALLY MAJOR ONE ON THE, THE METRICS FOR THAT.
AND THAT WAS THE ONLY REAL THING
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THERE.THE ONLY THING I'VE HEARD MR. CARTER JUST MENTIONED WAS THE, I THINK INITIALLY I HAD PUT IN APRIL 1ST, UM, TO HAVE A NEW PROJECT.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON YOUR FEBRUARY DATE, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, FOR WHICH CYCLE.
WELL, THEY, AND IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE IN NEXT SPRING'S BUDGET, WHICH WOULD BE THE 22, 28, 22, 23, 27, 28.
NEXT YEAR, WE, WE WOULD NEED IT BY THE 1ST OF MARCH.
THE POCKET PUBLIC HEARING ON YOUR ALL'S DECISION AND EVERYTHING.
UM, ALL OF THE NEW BUDGET WOULDN'T OCCUR UNTIL INTO APRIL.
AND I WOULD PRESENT IT AT A WORK SESSION TO THE BOARD AFTER WE HAD TAKEN YOUR INFORMATION AND ASSIGNED THE DOLLARS THAT WE HAD AVAILABLE.
AND I, I JUST WANTED TO CHECK BECAUSE, AND I THINK IT'S JUST WHERE WE'RE AT IN THIS CYCLE.
I THINK TYPICALLY APRIL ONE WOULD BE OKAY FOR NEW PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE COMING IN, BUT NOT AT THE PLACE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
I THINK THE OTHER COUNTIES USE TYPICALLY THAT APRIL ONE FOR EACH YEAR, COMING UP THROUGH THE PLAN TO BRING IT IN AND THEN IT WOULD BE READY FOR THAT NEXT CYCLE.
SO WE NEED TO BE AHEAD OF THAT, UH, IN ORDER TO GET THAT IN, I WOULD NEED BY 1ST OF MARCH.
I I'D LIKE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT I HAD CONSTITUENTS BRING TO ME.
THERE USED TO BE A CITIZENS ADVISORY WHERE THERE WAS ONE PERSON FROM EACH DISTRICT THAT WITH, UM, I THINK YEARS AGO, UM, WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THEN AFTER BOB CAME, I THINK FOR AWHILE, THEY WOULD GO OUT WITH HIM TO EACH DISTRICT.
AND THEN OF ARCHIE, IF YOU REMEMBER THAT, THAT'S WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN MY AREA AND THEY THINK THAT, AND I AGREE THAT IT'S KIND OF A GOOD THING TO HAVE THEM AS AN ADVISORY.
AND IN-BETWEEN SO THAT WE KNOW WE'RE BEING AS FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD AND GETTING AS MUCH INPUT FROM EACH DISTRICT IS JUST A THOUGHT HERE.
IF YOU WANTED TO REVIEW THE KEY THING IS TO GET THE BOARD TO ADOPT THIS CRITERIA RANKING.
HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PUT IT, THE WAITING, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT SO THAT MIKE AND MICHAEL CAN GET STARTED.
I AGREE THERE, BUT SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, SO THAT OUT, SO THAT'S A FOOD FOR THOUGHT THAT EVIDENTLY THAT WAS DONE IN THE PAST, UM, IT WAS WELL RECEIVED BY THE COMMUNITY.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT FELL BY THE SIDE, WHY IT FELL BY THE SIDE, MAYBE WE COULDN'T GET PEOPLE TO BE ON IT.
BUT, UM, THAT'S CERTAINLY THE BOARD'S PRIORITY.
I WOULD ASK THAT, THAT, THAT COMMITTEE OR ADVISORY GROUP OF WHATEVER INTERFACE WITH THE BOARD, AS OPPOSED TO MY SUPERINTENDENT WHO WAS JUST NO DOCTOR.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HAVE ONE JOINT MEETING WITH SO THAT IT'S NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, HIM TRYING TO PUT HIMSELF IN FIVE DIFFERENT PLACES WITH FIVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT WOULD FALL MORE ON THESE GUYS THAN YOU.
UH, I, AND, AND, UM, THIS WAS BEFORE MY TIME.
UH, AND I WOULD OFFER SOME THINGS TO BE AWARE OF WHEN DOING THINGS LIKE THAT IS THAT UNLESS YOU HAVE IN PLACE SOMETHING THAT IS DATA-DRIVEN OKAY, YOU CAN RUN THE RISK OF, UM, CLASHING PERSONALITIES OR SOMEBODY THINKING THAT THEIR SPECIFIC AREA IS MORE NEED THAN THIS SPECIFIC AREA.
SO I JUST, THOSE ARE THE THINGS YOU JUST NEED TO BE AWARE OF.
BUT I'M JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW, IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION AND I'M PUTTING IT OUT THERE, TRY AND BE A GOOD STORE TO MY PEOPLE.
AND IT WASN'T JUST FOR MY, MY, YOU KNOW, MY AREA THAT I HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT AREAS AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, MUST HAVE BEEN BECAUSE I'M HEARING IT FROM MULTIPLE DIRECTIONS.
SO I MEAN, SOME, SOME DEGREES STILL HAVE IT DOWN IN SHADOW A FARM.
SO, UM, AND I THINK IT GIVES A GOOD CHECKS AND BALANCE IN A WAY THAT YEAH, WE'RE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INPUT.
SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO THE WAY THE BUDGETS CARTER SETTING ABO GET THAT REVISED AND IN AN EMAIL TO YOU ALL, SO
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YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED AND THAT'S HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ADVERTISE.YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED FROM US.
AND THAT'S HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ADVERTISE.
THE COUNTY HAS TO ADVERTISE, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER.
I MEAN, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT YOU PROPOSED WITH RANKING THOSE THINGS.
I'M OKAY WITH DOING IT THAT WAY.
WOULD IT BE ADVISABLE TO HAVE A WORK SESSION BEFORE WE ADVERTISE? IF YOU'D LIKE, YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
TO ADVERTISE WHAT'S IN, YOU HAVE A WORK SESSION ON WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU NOW.
DO YOU WANT TO FINISH THIS WEIGHTING CRITERIA AT THE SAME TIME? I THINK IT, YEAH.
SO DO YOU WANT TO DO THIS NEXT WEEK? HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE ON THERE NOW? YOU'VE GOT, UM, THE TWO PRESENTATIONS FROM THE REASSESSMENT.
YOU'VE GOT THE I'M OVERLOADING, THE BRI, ET CETERA, AT THE, UH, WASTE CONVENIENCE CENTERS.
AND YOU HAVE THE SPOTTED LANTERN FLY WORKSHOP.
AND YOU HAVE ONE, PERHAPS TWO INTERVIEWS, UH, TO CONSIDER FOR THE EDA, BUT YOU CAN DO THOSE BEFORE THE PUBLIC SESSION AT SEVEN.
WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO ADD THERMAL SHELTER IN THERE SOMEPLACE? BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO, THEY WANTED TO ACTUALLY PRESENT THEIR, THEIR FINAL REPORT BECAUSE THEY ENDED LAST WEEK AND THEY JUST WANTED TO PUT TOGETHER A PRESENTATION.
THEY COULD, UM, THEY COULD ALSO DO THAT AT THE, UH, DAY MEETING IN JUNE.
I MEAN, JUST WANT TO, WE'LL MAKE SURE IT GETS IN THERE SOMEPLACE.
SO I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD THAT, WE NEED TO START BEFORE SEVEN, IF EVERYBODY'S ABLE TO DO THAT SIX O'CLOCK HOW'S THAT SOUND EVERYONE.
QUITE WELCOME, MR. CARLOS, UM, BEFORE YOU RUN OFF, CAN I GRAB THE OLD ABSOLUTELY ONLY.
I MEAN, IT'S MORE, MORE PERSONAL THAN ANYTHING ELSE SHORTLY.
AND YOU LIKE TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW OR? SURE.
I MOVED TO ADJOURN WORK SESSION.