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GOT 6 29.AND BY THE TIME WE READ INTO CLOSED SESSION WILL BE SIX 30.
SO IF WE CAN HAVE THE READING, SURE.
MADAM CHAIR, I MOVED THE BOARD ENTERED INTO A CLOSED MEETING UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION TWO DOT TWO DASH 37, 11 86 OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT FOR THEIR DISCUSSION REGARDING THE INVESTING OF PUBLIC FUNDS, WHERE COMPETITION OR BARGAINING AND DISSOLVE IS INVOLVED, WHERE IT MADE PUBLIC.
INITIALLY THE FINANCIAL INTEREST OF THE GOVERNMENTAL UNIT, WHICH WOULD BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED SUCH INVESTMENT BEING RELATED TO A PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE NORTH RIVER MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL.
YOUR SECOND ROLL CALL, MR. SHIRAKI.
WE'VE BEEN IN A CLOSED SESSION, SO WE'RE GOING TO START BY COMING OUT OF CLOSED SESSION.
SO IF SOMEONE WOULD READ US OUT OF CLOSED SESSION, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
MADAM CHAIR, I MOVED AT THE BOARD CERTIFIES TO ITS BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE.
ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS, LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER SECTION TWO DOT TWO DASH 37, 11 86 OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MANNERS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVEYED WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING BY THE PUBLIC BODY ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MRS. OATS, MADAM CHAIR, MR. MABE ARE MR. FOX.
[A. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America]
AT THIS TIME, I CALLED THE REGULAR BUSINESS MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UH, NOVEMBER 13TH, 18TH, JUNE 13TH, UM, TO ORDER GOING BACK IN TIME AND IF EVERYONE WOULD STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING THIS EVENING.
[B. Adoption of Agenda – Additions or Deletions]
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA DR.DAILY? YES, WE WOULD REQUEST THAT, UH, YOU TAKE THE CLOSED SESSION AT THE END OF THE AGENDA AND DELETE THAT ITEM AND WE WILL DEFER THAT UNTIL DECEMBER THE 14TH.
IS THERE A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM J FROM SO MOVE AND SECOND, SECOND, ALL THIS, UH, MRS. SHIRAKI WOULD YOU DO ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. FOX, MR. MABE, MADAM CHAIR.
WE'RE NOW AT THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AND THAT'S A 60 MINUTE PERIOD WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN SPEAK ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT PART OF A PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL COMMENTS WILL BE DIRECTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND NOT TO THE AUDIENCE BE CONSIDERED OF YOUR FELLOW SPEAKERS.
THERE SHOULD BE NO APPLAUSE, BOOING OR OTHER AUDIBLE DISRUPTIONS THROUGH A SHOW OF HANDS.
THE CHAIRMAN MAY ASK FOR A SHOW OF SUPPORT FOR COMMENTS MADE BY SPEAKERS, PO PLACARDS POSTERS, AND OTHER MEANS OF VISUAL DISPLAY OF COMMENTS WILL NOT BE PERMITTED IN THE BOARDROOM.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS USED AS PART OF A FACTUAL PRESENTATION, AND THE BOARD WILL NOT TOLERATE PERSONAL ATTACKS BY ANYONE ON ANY OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROCEEDINGS.
MRS. SCHROCK HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NOT FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? OKAY.
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS OVER AND WE WILL
[D. Reports – Board Members, County Administrator, Interim County Attorney]
GO TO REPORT MR. FOX, NOTHING REPORTED THIS TIME.MR. MABE, NOTHING TO REPORT RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY IN THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, HE WAS ONLY 40 FREE AND OUR COMMUNITY IS OFTEN PORTRAYED NEGATIVELY.
AND I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU GUYS THAT I HAD 400, 400 MESSAGES.
I GOT FLOWERS FROM THE REGIONAL JAIL.
THAT WAS A BIG JOKE AT HIS FUNERAL.
I JUST HAVE TO TELL YOU, CAUSE MY MOTHER'S LIKE, I HOPE PEOPLE DON'T THINK HE CAME FROM THERE.
SO I'M ON THE BOARD, RIGHT? SO YEAH,
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THAT WAS AN INTERESTING MOMENT FOR MY MOM AND THE PARKS AND REC.I KNOW IT WAS A LIGHTHEARTED MOMENT AND WE REALLY COULD HAVE WE, WE NEEDED IT.
AND, UM, PARKS AND REC SENT FLOWERS AND PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THIS COUNTY SENT ME THE MOST WONDERFUL NOTES.
AND UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU ALL.
I WANT TO THANK WARREN COUNTY AND FORT ROYAL, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'VE OFTEN WE'RE OFTEN PORTRAYED NEGATIVELY, BUT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE A GREAT COMMUNITY AND WE NEED TO TALK NICELY ABOUT OURSELVES AND THE LOVE THAT WAS SHOWN TO MY FAMILY.
UM, I JUST CAN'T SAY THANKS ENOUGH.
SO THAT'S WHAT I HAD CHAIRMAN.
WELL, I THINK FROM RURAL AND MORE COUNTIES, LIKE A BIG DYSFUNCTIONAL FAMILY, WE FIGHT, BUT THEN WE CAN COME TOGETHER WHEN WE HAVE TO.
SO, UM, FOR MY REPORT, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UM, WE FORGOT THE BOOT PART OF MINE WAS TO SAY THAT, UM, WE'RE STILL COLLECTING FOR, UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, FOOD DRIVE AND, UM, TO PROVIDE FOR FAM NEEDY FAMILIES FOR CHRISTMAS.
AND THEN I REALIZED, I LOOKED OVER AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A BOOT.
UM, WE PUT THAT OUT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WE MADE IT KIND OF LIGHTHEARTED THAT SINCE IT WAS A BUSY NIGHT, THAT NIGHT, THAT ALL DONATIONS APPRECIATED.
AND IF YOU DIDN'T FOLLOW THE RULES TO DONATIONS WERE APPRECIATED.
UM, AND, UM, SO THE BOOT WILL BE BOWED IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO DONATE, UM, WANTED TO SAY THAT I ATTENDED THE VETERANS DAY.
AND JUST TO THINK IF WE HAVE ANY VETERANS IN HERE, RAISE YOUR HAND AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE.
IT WAS, IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO REMEMBER, UM, THAT YOU GUYS WERE HERE BECAUSE OF PAST VETERANS AND, AND, AND YOU GUYS HERE, SO THANK YOU.
UM, MR. MABE AND I ATTENDED, HE SAID HE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING, BUT WE ATTENDED THE VACO CONVENTION.
AND I THINK, I THINK I LEARNED A LOT.
I DIDN'T, I'M SURE YOU DID TOO.
UM, AND I WANTED TO THANK MR. FOX FOR REPRESENTING THE BOARD AT THE GROUNDBREAKING, UM, FOR, UM, OUT WITH THE NEW FOOD SERVICE COMPANY, THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING.
I SAW YOUR VIDEO AND IT, UH, HE DID A FINE JOB THERE REPRESENTING THE BOARD.
UM, AND I WANTED TO WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY THANKSGIVING.
THAT'LL BE NEXT WEEK AND WE SHOULDN'T BE HERE HOPEFULLY.
UM, AND TO SAY HOW THANKFUL I AM FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ON THIS BOARD, REPRESENT THE RESIDENTS OF SOUTH RIVER AND ALL OF WARREN COUNTY.
A LOT OF WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, BOTH ON THE FIRE AND EMS AND OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT THINK OF MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND THANKFUL FOR ALL OF OUR SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN AND THANKFUL FOR GOD, OUR SAVIOR THAT HE IS BLESSED US ALL.
DALEY, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
MA'AM MR. ROBERTSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP, INTRODUCE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD LAST MEETING.
I WAS ABLE TO GIVE YOU A NON-FORMAL INTRODUCTION TO ALYSSA SCOTT.
SO I'LL LET YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE BORDEN.
I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH EVERYONE.
IT'S GREAT TO SEE SOME FAMILIAR FACES.
I HAD A HUGE WARM WELCOME FROM STAFF, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
TOMORROW WILL BE THE LAST DAY TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE CHRISTMAS DRIVE.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE THE BOOT BACK TO THE CHIEF.
SO THIS WILL BE YOUR OPPORTUNITY.
LAST OPPORTUNITY HERE ON NOVEMBER 29TH AT SIX O'CLOCK WILL BE THE MONDAY AFTER THANKSGIVING.
WE HAVE A TOURISM JOINT TOURISM MEETING HERE, AND WE WILL HAVE SOME SNACKS OR SOMETHING AT THAT TIME FOR EVERYBODY.
UH, DECEMBER 1ST, THREE O'CLOCK, WE WILL HAVE THE BOARD ADVANCE FOR THE NEW BOARD, UM, WITH MR. BUTLER AND MRS. COOK, UH, TO BE WITH US AT THAT TIME.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE, AFTER THE STAFF ADVANCE, WHICH WILL BE DECEMBER THE EIGHTH, WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER JOINT, UH, STAFF AND BOARD MEETING, UH, PROBABLY MID,
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LATE JANUARY, SOMETHING IN THERE.UH, DECEMBER 7TH, PEARL HARBOR, UH, WE WILL HAVE A WORK SESSION AT, UH, PROBABLY SIX O'CLOCK MA'AM.
UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS, INCLUDING THE RE-DISTRICTING TO TALK ABOUT AND TO GET ADDRESSED BEFORE THE DECEMBER 14TH MEETING AND DECEMBER 9TH AT SIX O'CLOCK.
YOU SAID DECEMBER 9TH, CORRECT? YES.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE MA'AM OKAY.
[E. Appropriations and Transfers]
UM, MOVING ON APPROPRIATIONS SPINS TRANSFERS.IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THOSE TWO ITEMS AND IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED? I HAVE A QUESTION.
SO WE RECEIVED AN UPDATED, UM, SANS ANDERSON.
IS THAT CORRECT FROM THE ONE THAT'S IN THE FOLDER? YES.
THAT WAS HERE WHEN I GOT HERE THIS EVENING.
SO IT IS, IT HAS THE MOST RECENT FILLINGS, ALL FOUR POINTS, 600 MILLION.
THAT'S STARTING TO LOOK LIKE THE NATIONAL DEBT.
SO ANYWAY, BUT YEAH, IT'S HARD NOW, BUT IT'S STILL, THEY'RE STILL BILLING US, UM, APPROXIMATELY $130,000 A MONTH.
AND I THINK WE'VE INSTRUCTED THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT REDUCED, UM, MOVING FORWARD.
SO I'D JUST LIKE TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT MOVING FORWARD AGAIN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IS THERE EMOTION? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVED THERE.
WE ACCEPT THE APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS THIS AS LISTED WITH THE ADDITION OF OBSESSIONS ENERGY REPORT.
SECOND ROCOM IS A SHIRAKI MRS. OATS.
[F. Approval of Accounts]
APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS.ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS ON THAT? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT AS A, UM, PROVE AS EXCEL? SO MY TOP, SO MOVED SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI.
[G. Approval of Minutes]
APPROVAL OF MINUTES.UH, REGULAR MEETING, OCTOBER 19TH, SPECIAL MEETING OCTOBER 26 AND THEN REGULAR MEETING NOVEMBER 3RD.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED? SO MOVED.
SECOND, SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MRS. OATES.
I NEED TO ABSTAIN BECAUSE I WAS NOT IN ATTENDANCE AT THE 26TH OR THE THIRD.
ALRIGHT, MR. FOX NEW BUSINESS CONSENT AGENDA.
ARE THERE ANY ITEMS? EXCUSE ME.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING THESE BACK BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM.
AND WE WILL BRING THEM BACK FOR THE NEXT, UM, MEETING.
I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU WERE LEAVING ME OUT.
AND I HAD JUST DEMONSTRATED PRETTY, EXTREMELY ALL.
YOU KNOW HOW TO DO IS I ADD RIGHT.
NO, SHE GOT ME ON THE UPSTATE.
BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE FOR THE MINUTES FOR THE MEETINGS.
[H. Consent Agenda]
CONSENT AGENDA.IS THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PULL FOR DISCUSSION HEARING? NONE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED? SO MOVED SECOND, SECOND.
WE CAN'T START OUR, UM, PUBLIC PUBLIC HEARINGS UNTIL SEVEN 30.
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HAVE 15 MINUTES OF FAME.EVERYONE WANTS TO STRETCH YOUR LEGS BECAUSE ONCE WE START THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, WE HAVE 10 UM, GOOD.
ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS FINALLY SEVEN 30 AND WE WILL START THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WHAT WAS SAID? JUST SAY, HEY, WE COULD HAVE BEEN, SORRY.
[I.1. Ordinance to Add and Ordain Section 30-7 of the Warren County Code to add a onetime Bonus for Compensation Board-Funded Sheriff and Sheriff’s Deputies in FY 2021-2022 – Ed Daley]
UM, FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS ORDINANCE TO ADD AND OUR DANE SECTION 30 DASH SEVEN OF THE WARREN COUNTY CODE TO ADD A ONE-TIME BONUS FOR COMPENSATION, BOARD FUNDED SHERIFF AND SHERIFF'S DEPUTY IN, UM, FYI 20 21, 20 22, DR.MA'AM UM, THIS IS A, THE CONSTANT STATE COMP WARD HAS RECEIVED FUNDING FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO PROVIDE A $3,000 BONUS FOR SWORN DEPUTIES WHO ARE PART OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND ON THE COMP BOARD, UH, REIMBURSEMENT PAYROLL AND PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
DID ANYONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? NO.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS FROM THE AUDIENCE? OKAY.
ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK FINAL CALL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? SO DR.
DAN HERE, UM, WE ARE JUST CONSIDERING THE, THE BOARD FUNDED SHERIFF'S AND SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES WITH THIS ACTION, CORRECT? SECTION? YES, MA'AM WITH THIS ACTION.
AND IS THERE, LIKE, AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER TODAY, IS THERE A TIMEFRAME OF, OR IS, IS THIS ONE THE SAME AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER AT OUR
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THIS? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION ON A CHAIR MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS WAS, WE'RE ALL HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME TALKING TONIGHT.
DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT? OH, I HAVE ONE, RIGHT? UM, IT SHOULD SAY, WAIT A MINUTE.
I MOVED AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT THE PROPOSAL AND IT'S A MEN IN WARREN COUNTY CODE, SECTION 30 OFFICERS, EMPLOYEES TO ADD SECTION 30 DAY SEVEN PAYMENT OF ONE TIME BONUS FOR COMPENSATION, BOARD FUNDED SHERIFF AND SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES IN FOUR YEAR, 2021 AND 2022 CIRCUIT ROLL CALL MRS. SHAHRAKI.
MRS. OATES, MADAM CHAIR, MR. MABE, MR. FOX.
[I.2. Ordinance to Add and Ordain Section 30-8 of the Warren County Code to add a onetime Bonus for Non-Compensation Board-Funded Sheriff’s Deputies in FY 2021-2022 – Ed Daley]
PUBLIC HEARING IS AN ORDINANCE TO ADD AN ORDAIN SECTION 30 DASH EIGHT OF THE WARREN COUNTY CODE TO ADD A ONE-TIME BONUS FOR NON-COMPENSATION BOARD FUNDED SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES AND A FOUR YEAR 20 21, 20 22, DR.THESE ARE DEPUTIES WHO ARE FUNDED LOCALLY BY WARREN COUNTY, COURTESY OF THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC, AND THEY PERFORM THE SAME FUNCTIONS AS THOSE DEPUTIES WHO ARE FUNDED THROUGH THE COMP BOARD.
AND WHEN WAS WE DISCUSSED THIS EARLIER WITH THE BOARD? THE CONCERN WAS THAT WE SHOULD TREAT LIKES THE SAME.
SO THIS PROVIDES THE $3,000 FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT FUNDED BY THE COMP BOARD, EACH DEPUTY WOULD THEREFORE RECEIVE ONE, UH, BONUS.
AND THIS WOULD COME APPROXIMATELY $92,000.
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COME FROM THE, UH, AMERICAN RECOVERY ACT FUNDING, WHICH IS PERMITTED FOR THIS PURPOSE IS NOW THAT'S.OKAY, BUT LOOK, HEARINGS NOW OPEN.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? I JUST WANT IT, THERE WAS NO COUNTY MONEY INVOLVED IN THIS.
IS THAT RIGHT? WELL, IT'S IT'S COUNTY MONEY THAT CAME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
SO IT'S ARPA MONEY, SIMILAR TO THE CARES ACT MONEY WE RECEIVED LAST YEAR.
SO IT TECHNICALLY IS YOUR MONEY, BUT IT'S NOT YOUR REGULAR BUDGET MONEY.
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT IS IT SHIRAKI DID ANYONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? NO.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS SECOND CALLING ANYONE LIKED TO SPEAK FINAL CALL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT THE PROVOST PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDING WARREN COUNTY CODE.
WARREN COUNTY CODE, SECTION 30 OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES TO ADD SECTION 38 PAYMENT OF ONE TIME BONUS FOR NON-COMPENSATION BOARD FUNDED SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES AND FYI TWENTY TWENTY ONE TWENTY TWENTY TWO SECOND.
[I.3. Ordinance to Amend and Re-Ordain Chapter 160, Article XIX of the Warren County Code, “Transient Occupancy Tax” – Caitlin Jordan]
WARDEN, UH, PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER THREE ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND REORDERING CHAPTER ONE 60 ARTICLE.I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.
29 OF THE WARREN COUNTY CODE TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAB TAX, MRS. JORDAN, UH, GOOD EVENING OF THE VIRGINIA CODE AUTHORIZES COUNTIES TO COLLECT TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX ON THE GROSS PROCEEDS OF ROOM REYNOLDS, SUCH AS HOTELS, MOTELS SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTALS.
AS LONG AS THE FACILITY THAT'S RENTED IS LESS THAN 30 DAYS, 30 CONSECUTIVE DAYS.
IN RECENT YEARS, WE'VE SEEN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE USE OF ACCOMMODATIONS IN A MEDIARY, SUCH AS VI VRVO, AIRBNB, PRICELINE, EXPEDIA, AND THEIR RESPONSE TO THE INCREASE OF THIS TYPE OF USE.
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY PASSED SENATE BILL 1398, WHICH AMENDED THE VIRGINIA CODE RECORDING REGARDING TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX.
UM, THIS, THESE CHANGES CLARIFY HOW THE TAX WILL BE REPORTED.
UM, WHEN A ROOM IS BOOKED THROUGH AN ACCOMMODATION IN INTERMEDIARY AND HOW THE TAX IS COMPUTED.
SO PURSUANT TO THESE CHANGES, THE CODE NOW REQUIRES THAT THE TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX MUST BE COMPETED BASED ON THE TOTAL PRICE PAID FOR THE USE OF THE ROOM.
THIS WOULD INCLUDE ANY FEEDS, ANY FEES CHARGED BY THE ACCOMMODATIONS AND IMMEDIATELY, ADDITIONALLY, WHEN AN ACCOMMODATIONS PROVIDER CONTRACTS WITH AN INTERMEDIARY TO FACILITATE THE SALE OF THE ACCOMMODATION AND THE INTERMEDIARY CHARGES THE CUSTOMER FOR THE ROOM AND A FEE, THE ACCOMMODATION INTERMEDIARY MUST COLLECT THE TAX AND THEN REMIT IT TO THE COUNTY.
CONSIDERING THESE CHANGES, MS. SOURS AND I WORKED, UM, TO REVIEW THE WARREN COUNTY CODE, UM, CHAPTERS ONE 60 ARTICLE 19, TITLED TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX AND DRAFTED PROPOSED AMENDMENTS THAT REFLECT THESE CHANGES, UH, DRAFTED THESE PROPOSED CHANGES WERE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, I WILL KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN, UM, I NOTICED EVENING OR TODAY WHEN I WAS REVIEWING IT, THE DRAFTS THAT WERE INCLUDED FOR SOME REASON, WE'RE MISSING FOUR WORDS OUT OF ONE OF THE ROOM CHARGES DEFINITION.
THAT'S WHY THERE IS A NEW, UM, NEW DRAFT, WHICH HAD THE HIGHLIGHTED ADDITIONAL WORDS ON THE SECOND PAGE.
UM, SO JUST TO CLARIFY WHY YOU HAVE THAT, UM, THE DRAFTS BEFORE YOU NAIL THE MAJORITY OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THOSE DRAFTS REALLY INCLUDE AMENDING OUR DEFINITIONS TO INCLUDE, UM, ACCOMMODATIONS PROVIDER ACCOMMODATIONS, INTERMEDIARY.
AND THERE ARE SEVERAL SECTIONS WITHIN ARTICLE 19, WHICH WERE AMENDED TO REFLECT THESE NEW TERMS. UM, OCDISH ADDITIONALLY WARREN, UM, VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 58.1 DASH 38, 19 D PERMITS, LOCALITIES TO DETERMINE WHETHER TO AWARD A COMMISSION TO THE PAYOR OF THE TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX.
THE COMMISSION IS A DEDUCTION TO THE TOTAL TAX DUE.
IT CAN BE NO LESS THAN 3%, BUT NO MORE THAN 5% TAX.
CURRENTLY, WARREN COUNTY DOES HAVE A COMMISSION, UM, THAT IS SET AT A 5% REDUCTION THAT'S PAID.
HOWEVER, NOW THAT THE ACCOMMODATION INTERMEDIARIES INCLUDE COMPANIES SUCH AS EXPEDIA,
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PRICELINE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, UH, WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS FOR YOU TO LET YOU KNOW, IT'S A PERMISSIVE.YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE THE COMMISSION.
IN FACT, I THINK A LOT OF OUR SURROUNDING LOCALITIES DO NOT PROVIDE A COMMISSION.
SO THAT'S WHY THERE ARE TWO DRAFTS THAT YOU WERE PROVIDED.
ONE DRAFT HAS ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE REQUIRED, UM, TO THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO THE STATE CODE.
BUT ONE OF THE DRAFTS HAS THE COMMISSION REMAINING.
ONE OF THE DRAFTS HAS THE COMMISSION BEING REPEALED, UM, POTENTIALLY THIS WILL INCREASE REVENUE TO THE COUNTY BY ABOUT 18,000.
UM, AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE BOARD WAS AWARE THAT THIS IS AN OPTION, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE MAKING SO MANY CHANGES TO THE SECTION.
UM, BUT WITH THAT, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
MS. SOURS IS PRESENT TO ALSO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN OR ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. JORDAN, MADAM CHAIR? UM, MRS. JORDAN, UM, ARE THERE ANY EXEMPTIONS TO THIS EXEMPTIONS FROM PAYING THE TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX? NO, THERE'S NOT.
IF YOU'RE IN ACCOMMODATION, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
UM, NO, IF YOU ARE AN ACCOMMODATIONS PROVIDER, YOU'RE RENTING OUT EITHER A HOTEL, A BOARDING HOUSE, MOTEL, A SHORT-TERM TOURISTS RENTAL, AND THAT'S LESS THAN 30 CONSECUTIVE DAYS.
YOU FALL UNDER THIS TAX AND YOU HAVE TO PAY IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN CONSIDERED.
Y'ALL VERY WISE PEOPLE, BUT, UM, THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE IN OUR COUNTY, UM, THE HOTEL OR MOTEL IS PROVIDING THE ROOM AT A DISCOUNTED RATE FOR A HOMELESS COUPLE OR A HOMELESS FAMILY.
AND THEY'RE ALREADY CUTTING THEIR PRICE AS MUCH AS THEY CAN TO MAKE IT BENEFICIAL.
SO A PLACE THAT A PERSON HAS A PLACE TO SLEEP AND IT'S A WARM PLACE, UH, AND IT HAPPENS.
AND I THINK, I THINK PERSONALLY THAT, THAT IF THEY'RE DOING THAT FOR THE COMMUNITY, THEY SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE SOME SORT OF BRIGHT COUNTER.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, IF THERE'S ANY, ARE THERE, IF THERE'S ANY WIGGLE ROOM IN THIS AT ALL, FOR THEM, RIGHT, THAT YOU COULD PROVIDE IS TO KEEP THE COMMISSION THERE BECAUSE THE TAX IS CALCULATED ON THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT IS PAID BY THE CUSTOMER.
THE ONLY THING YOU COULD DO IS KEEP THE COMMISSION, BUT THAT WOULD, THAT COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO BE AWARDED TO EVERY, UM, TO EVERY PAYOR, THE TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX, NOT JUST THOSE THAT ARE PROVIDING A DISCOUNT TO THOSE LESS FORTUNATE.
THE POTENTIAL IS THERE FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY LIVING IN THOSE ROOMS THAT THEY'RE NOT PAYING ANYTHING RIGHT NOW, THE DSS, OUR INDIVIDUALS ARE PAYING THAT FOR THEM TO PAY, PAY THE TAX ON.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE IT'S THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE DOING IT OUT THERE, THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEART WITH RYAN TO SAY 30 DAYS OR LESS IS 30 DAYS OR LESS, IF THEY ARE SAYING IF THEY ARE SAYING THERE.
CAUSE I KNOW WE DO HAVE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT RESIDE IN HOTELS.
AND SOME I KNOW OF SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE RESIDED THERE FOR YEARS.
UM, THAT WOULD NOT FALL UNDER THE DEFINITION BECAUSE IT'S MORE THAN, YEAH.
I UNDERSTAND THE REQUIREMENT THAT YOU'RE GOING FOR HERE.
I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT PEOPLE GIVE.
AND NOW WE'RE ASKING THEM TO GIVE MORE, UM, WELL, I'LL JUST SAY THAT, UM, WARREN COUNTY IS RESTRICTED ON TERMS OF THIS TYPE OF POLICY THAT THEY COULD DO.
SO IT WOULD, THE QUESTION WOULD BE, DOES THE STATE CODE ALLOW WARREN COUNTY TO DO WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING? AND YOU KNOW, THIS WAS CAITLIN'S PROJECT, NOT MINE, BUT I'M GOING TO GUESS THE ANSWER IS PROBABLY IT IS NOT AS PRETTY AS PRETTY CLEAR CUT IT.
THE TAX THE COUNTY HAS, HAS TO REQUIRE ACCOMMODATION PROVIDERS SHOULD PAY.
THE COMMISSION IS AN OPTION THAT LOCALITIES HAVE WHERE THEY, THEY CAN GIVE THAT REDUCTION OR THEY CANNOT.
YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION, THE TAX, IF I COULD ADD THE, THE TAXES BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE.
SO IF THE ROOM IS $100, IT'S $5.
IF THE ROOM IS CUT TO $50, IT'S TWO 50.
SO WHEN THERE'S A REDUCTION IN THE RATE, THERE'S A REDUCTION AUTOMATICALLY IN THE TAX.
SO IN TERMS, SO WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS
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PROVIDED TO US TONIGHT.WE EITHER ACCEPT ONE THAT REPEALS THE COMMISSION, WHICH WE CURRENTLY GIVE, WHICH IS 5% TO EVERYBODY WHO RENTS YES.
TO SOMEONE, LESS THAN 30 DAYS, THEY GET 5% DEDUCTION FROM THEIR TAX.
AND WHO DO THEY TAKE THAT OUT AUTOMATICALLY? OR IS THAT DEDUCTED WHEN THEY COME TO PAY THEIR TAX? OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? I'LL HAVE TO HAVE MISS OUT MS. HOWER, SPEAK TO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW THE LOGISTICS OF HOW THAT PLAYS OUT IN THE, WELL, I'M JUST WONDERING WHY WE WOULD REPEAL IT.
I, YOU KNOW, I, I, I NEED A GOOD REASON TO REPEAL A 10 TO REPEAL A COMMISSION.
I LIKE GIVING MONEY BACK TO BUSINESS OWNERS.
IF WE CAN, AS LONG AS THEY TIMELY FILE, THEN THEY GET THAT COMMISSION SUBTRACT IT OFF.
IF THEY'RE LATE, THEY LOSE THAT COMMISSION.
SO THEY'RE PENALIZED IF THEY DON'T PAY IT ON TIME BY LOSING THE COMMISSION OF THAT 5% PLUS THEY GET ADDED ON PENALTY.
SO THOSE ARE TWO OPTIONS FOR THIS EVENING.
WELL, I WILL POINT OUT THE CODE DOES ALLOW US RIGHT NOW.
WE REQUIRE WE DO A 5% COMMISSION.
THE CODE DOES ALLOW IT TO GO AS LOW AS 3%.
SO THAT IS, THAT IS ANOTHER OPTION THAT THE BOARD CAN CONSIDER IF, UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, AS YOU CAN LOWER IT TO FOUR OR 3%, THAT OPTION IS PROVIDED BY THE STATE, BUT YOU'RE DOING IT FOR ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT IT WOULD BE ACROSS THE BOARD.
IT, THERE'S NOT, UM, DIFFERENT TYPES OF CATEGORIES.
DO YOU EITHER GIVE THE COMMISSION OR YOU DON'T.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, IF I'M CORRECT, THERE IS THE CHARGE ON THE ROOM OF 5% IS THE TAX.
THAT IS WHAT HAS, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S CHARGED ON THE WELL IT'S THE TAX, THE TAX IS BASED ON THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT THE CONSUMER PAYS, WHICH INCLUDES ANY TYPE OF ADDITIONAL FEES THAT YOU USE THROUGH AN ACCOMMODATION INTERMEDIARY.
AND THEN THAT 5% IS ADDED THAT 5% ON THAT TOTAL PRICE IS THEN ADDED.
AND THAT'S THE 5% THAT IS DUE TO WARREN COUNTY.
AND THEN THE COMMISSION IS 5% OF THE 5% OF THE TOTAL TAX THAT IS DUE TO THE COUNTY.
SO IF IT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND IT'S $5, THEN 5% OF $5, NOT 5% OF THE HUNDRED IS WHAT GOES BACK TO THE OWNER.
I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS CLEAR PREVIOUSLY, THE, IF A ROOM AND ALL OF THE FEES THAT THE ACCOMMODATION INTERMEDIARY CHARGES IS A HUNDRED DOLLARS.
THAT IS WHAT THE CONSUMER PAYS.
AND THEN THE INTERMEDIARY OR THE ACCOMMODATIONS INTERMEDIARY, OR THE ACCOMMODATIONS PROVIDER.
IF THEY DON'T USE AN INTERMEDIARY, THEY HAVE TO PAY 5% OF THAT.
THAT $5 IS NOT BEING ADDED TO THE CONSUMER.
WELL, ON MY MOTEL BILL, IT WAS WENT DOWN IN NORFOLK.
THE LAST TWO DAYS, THE 5% WAS ADDED WELL, AND IT, IT MAY BE ADDED, BUT THE WAY THE TAX WORK WORKS IS IT'S THE TAX THAT'S PAID IN FROM THE TOTAL, THE TOTAL COST TO THE CONSUMER.
BUT THE ROOM RATE IS LISTED, WHATEVER THE ROOM RATE IS, AND THEN THE TAX IS ADDED.
SO THE TAX IS ADDED ON AND LIKE WE'VE GOT THREE BILLS FROM THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS THAT SHOW THE TAX BEING ADDED.
I THINK CAITLIN SAYS, NO, THIS IS, THIS IS THE RESULT OF TAXING BUSINESSES.
THIS IS A GREAT EDUCATION FOR PEOPLE BECAUSE THE CODE MIGHT SAY THAT JUST THE BUSINESS OWNER HAS TO PAY IT.
BUT GUESS WHAT THE BUSINESS OWNER IS GOING TO DO, THIS IS A GREAT LITTLE PIECE OF EDUCATION FOR ALL OF YOU.
THIS IS, THIS IS ON THE CONSUMER AND ADDED TO THE CONSUMER'S BILL, LIKE THE MEALS TAX.
SO THE CAUSE D THEN DOES REQUIRE THAT IT'S A CONSUMER TAX THEN THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE BUSINESS THAT IT'S, THE HOLIDAY INN IS THE COLLECTOR, BUT THE TAXES ON THE COSTUMER.
THEN THAT'S INCORRECT, BUT IT'S STILL GOOD.
THE CONSUMER'S STILL PAY HIM FOR IT.
SHELL COLLECTED FROM THE PERSON.
MR. HAM WAS JUST NOTING THERE.
SO THE LAST PAGE HAS THE TWO DIFFERENCE WHETHER YOU WANT TO TAKE THE COMMISSION OR NOT.
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MAKE SURE YOU PICK OUT THE ONE YOU WANT.THAT THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO DRAFTS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU, IS THAT THE SECTION ONE 60 DASH 93? SO THE, EXCUSE ME, THE FIRST MOTION.
SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE COMMISSION, AS AN INCENTIVE TO THE BUSINESS OWNER TO PAY THE TAX ON TIME, IS THAT THE INTENTION OF IT ORIGINALLY AND TO, AND TO HANDLE THE INCONVENIENCE OF COLLECTING, ET CETERA.
BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT ALWAYS PROVIDED ANOTHER TAXES THAT ARE LEVIED, RIGHT.
BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO KEEP TRACK OF IT.
SO THEY HAVE TO PAY AN ACCOUNTANT OR WHATEVER TO DO IT.
SO I'M INCLINED, WELL, PERSONALLY, I'M INCLINED TO LEAVE THE COMMISSION INTACT AND JUST LEAVE IT AS IT IS, BECAUSE IT IS A PAIN TO KEEP TRACK OF ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE YOU PAY IT ON TIME OR YOU LOSE YOUR COMMISSION.
I THINK THE 5% IS A NICE LITTLE, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES IT EASIER TO COLLECT MA'AM YES, ABSOLUTELY.
SO THE FIRST PROPOSED MOTION LEAVES IT WITH THE COMMISSION.
BUT WITH THE FIRST ONE, THERE IS AN AMENDMENT TO THEIR STILL, IF YOU KEEP THE COMMISSION, THERE IS A CHANGE THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR WITH ONE 60 DASH 93.
UM, JUST BECAUSE OF THE TERMINOLOGY AND THE, THE CODE ITSELF HAS, HAS CHANGED, BUT THAT DOES KEEP THE COMMISSION.
UM, IT JUST CHANGES MOTEL TWO ACCOMMODATIONS.
SO INSTEAD OF MOTEL, WHATEVER, RIGHT.
WELL, THE WAY WE PREVIOUSLY DEFINED MOTEL WAS TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING.
BUT TO ME THAT SEEMED A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING.
ACCOMMODATIONS IS MUCH MORE CLEAR.
AND INTERMEDIARIES ARE THE EXPEDIAS OF THE WORLD.
SO THOSE PEOPLE ARE COLLECTING AND HONESTLY, I THINK IT COULD BE SOMEONE, UM, I DON'T KNOW, BUT LIKE LONG AND FOSTER, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO THAT, BUT IF THEY, UM, RENT OUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS, THEN THEY WOULD BE CONSIDERED THE ACCOMMODATION INTERMEDIARY.
IF THEY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE ACTUALLY FINDING PEOPLE AND RENTING, RENTING THE HOME FOR LESS THAN 30 DAYS.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU THINK AIRBNB IS
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC, SO THERE MAY BE OKAY.
THANK YOU, MRS. ROCKY, DID ANYONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? NO.
AFTER THAT PRESENTATION, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY ON THAT SECOND CALL, THIRD CALL.
WHAT IS SO MADAM CHAIR? I NOT SURE WHICH ONE OF THESE IS THE CORRECT MOTION, BUT I MOVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE, UM, TO AMEND THE WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTIONS ONE 60 DASH 80 81 83, 84, 85, 86, 88, 89, 90 91 92 93 TO CONFORM WITH THE VIRGINIA CODE REGARDING TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX AND KEEP THE COMMISSION AS IT IS CURRENTLY SECOND.
YEAH, I HOPE THAT'S THE SECOND MOTION THERE.
WELL, NO, NO, SHE WANTS THE FIRST ONE.
SHE JUST AD-LIBBED IT SLIGHTLY, BUT SHE WANTS TO COLLECTION OF, WELL, WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS ACTUALLY SHOULD SAY THAT'S A MISTAKE.
SO THE SECOND ONE IS THE ONE THAT WOULD ELIMINATE WOULD REPEAL IT.
SO THE ONE THAT SHE JUST DID IS RIGHT.
AND IS DEFINITELY WHAT YOU WANT GIVEN WHAT YOUR COMMENTS WERE.
SO WE HAVE, YOU'VE HAD A SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MRS. OATES.
HI, MR. MABE, MR. POTTS, WAIT,
[I.4. Additional Appropriation of CARES Act and State Grant Funding to Warren County Public Schools – Ed Daley/Dr. Chris Ballenger]
PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER FOUR, ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION OF CARES ACT AND STATE GRANT FUNDING TO WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, DR.[00:40:01]
AND I WILL AMEND THAT DR.UM, I AM BUCK SMITH WITH WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
THIS IS ROB BALLANTINE, AS YOU MENTIONED.
BALLENGER IS A, A CONFERENCE, UH, THIS WEEK THAT VIRGINIA SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE IN WILLIAMSBURG.
SO HE IS, UH, ASKED, UH, ROB AND I TO, UH, TO PRESENT THIS SPECIFIC ITEM, UH, AND, AND, AND HIS ABSENCE, UM, AT OUR OCTOBER 20TH, 2021 REGULAR SCHOOL BOARD MEETING, UM, THE WARREN COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD, UH, APPROVAL WAS GIVEN TO REQUEST FROM THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATIONS TO THE FISCAL YEAR, 2022 SCHOOL OPERATING BUDGET, AND THE AMOUNT OF FOUR MILLION SIXTY FOUR MILLION SIXTY TWO THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED FORTY DOLLARS.
UH, THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING, UH, 4 MILLION, 12,255 IS FROM THE VARIOUS CARE ACTS GRANTS.
UH, THE REMAINDER OF THIS, UH, 49,985 IS FROM TWO STATE GRANTS.
UH, NO OF THE, UH, NO ADDITIONAL LOCAL FUNDING IS REQUIRED TO RECEIVE AND, AND, UH, SPEND THIS ADDITIONAL STATE AND REVENUE OF FEDERAL REVENUE.
UH, THE APPROPRIATIONS FOR THIS AMOUNT WILL BE SPENT IN THE FOLLOWING CATEGORIES, UM, INSTRUCTION 2 MILLION, 900, 7,000 8, 75 OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE, 9,000 HUNDRED 21 FACILITIES, 1,042,644 TECHNOLOGY 100, 2000 FOR THE FULL REQUEST OF 4 MILLION, 62,240.
UM, OBVIOUSLY IN ORDER FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD TO RECEIVE AND SPEND THESE ADDITIONAL FUNDS AND ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION, UM, IS OBVIOUSLY, UH, NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
SO, UM, I AM HOPEFUL THAT, UH, WHAT QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE THAT MR. BALLANTINE AND I COLLECTIVELY WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THEM.
HOPEFULLY HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? SO NO ADDITIONAL FUNDING IS REQUIRED FROM, FROM OUR BULLET, RIGHT? THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT.
NOW, WHEN YOU SAY CATEGORIES, SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE SEEN A BIT OF A BROKE BREAKDOWN AS IN INSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT THAT MONEY WILL STAY.
IT WON'T BE SHIFTED FROM INSTRUCTION TO ANOTHER PULLED FROM SOME, WHEN YOU SAY CATEGORIES, WHAT I WAS TAUGHT WAS CATEGORIES.
ONCE IT'S IN THAT CATEGORY, IT CAN'T BE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
THIS YEAR, WE WERE FUNDED CATEGORICALLY BY CATEGORY.
SO ONCE YOU APPROPRIATE MONEY TO A CATEGORY, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS DURING THE YEAR AND WE FIND OUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO NEED IT IN ANOTHER CATEGORY, WE WILL NEED TO COME TO YOU FOR A TRANSFER, TO HAVE A MT.
TRANSFERRED FROM ONE CATEGORY TO THE OTHER.
SO, UM, IF YOU APPROVE THIS THIS EVENING, UM, THAT'LL PUT THESE FUNDS IN THESE CATEGORIES AND THAT'S WHERE THEY WILL HAVE TO BE SPENT AGAIN, UNLESS WE FIND SOME REASON TO COME TO YOU AND IT WOULD REQUIRE YOUR APPROVAL TO MOVE IT FROM ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES TO ONE OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES.
THANK YOU, MR. ABE, MADAM CHAIR, UM, MR. BALLANTINE AND MR. SMITH.
UM, I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE SPENDING THIS MONEY ON.
I SEE YOU PUTTING IT IN CATEGORIES, BUT YOU'RE NOT BREAKING IT DOWN FOR US SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE, WHAT, HOPEFULLY THERE'S A SPREADSHEET, WHICH THERE IS A SPREADSHEET THAT DOES TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND, UH, WE, WE CAN PROVIDE YOU MORE INFORMATION ON THOSE.
IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON ANY PARTICULAR ONES OR LIKE, I, I DO, UH, I MEAN, I DO.
I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT COSTS LMK AND BRTC ARCHITECTURAL FEES OF OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.
UH, I MEAN, WHY IS THAT? UM, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT A STUDENT SUPPORT COACHES ARE DOING 4 MILLION, $200,000.
UH, I DON'T UNDERSTAND, UM, ELEMENTARY TEACHERS AND SUPPLEMENTS.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALLOCATING $163,000.
WHAT DOES THAT REALLY? WHAT DO YOU, WHAT ARE YOU ACTUALLY DOING WITH THAT MONEY? AND I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SAYING YAY OR NAY ON THIS UNTIL I KNOW, UH, THE ELEMENTARY, UH, TEACHERS, UH, TEACHER IN SUPPLEMENTS.
UH, TH THERE ARE TWO TEACHERS, IF I RECALL, UH, IN THAT CATEGORY WHO ARE WORKING VIRTUALLY WITH, UH, STUDENTS,
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UM, AND THEN THE SUPPLEMENTS AND, UH, THOSE WE WITH SOME STUDENTS WHO ARE, UH, MAY BE RECEIVING SOME VIRTUAL INSTRUCTION OR, UH, SOME HOME INSTRUCTION.THOSE ARE, UH, SUPPLEMENTS THAT ARE, UH, PROVIDED FOR TEACHERS WHO ARE WORKING WITH THOSE STUDENTS BEYOND THE REGULAR DAY.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE, UH, UM, THEY WORK IN A REGULAR DAY AND THEN THEY'RE DOING MORE WITH THE, YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
AFTER THE REGULAR DAY, I THINK AT THE SECONDARY, WE, WE STARTED TO VIRTUAL ACADEMIES WHERE WE HAVE STUDENTS WHO WERE NOT READY TO TRANSITION BACK TO IN-PERSON LEARNING THIS YEAR AND THROUGH AN ADMISSION PROCESS, THEY ARE, UM, HAVING THESE VIRTUAL ACADEMIES AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL, WE HAD TO HIRE SEVERAL ADDITIONAL TEACHERS TO TEACH THOSE STUDENTS.
AND THEY DO THAT FULL-TIME EVERY DAY THAT SCHOOLS IN AT THE SECONDARY LEVEL, OUR TEACHERS HAVE PLANNING PERIODS THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE BY LAW.
AND WE'RE PAYING SUPPLEMENTS EITHER TO HAVE THEM USE THAT TIME THAT NORMALLY THEY'D BE USING FOR OTHER THINGS TO TEACH THESE STUDENTS AT THAT LEVEL OR AFTER HOURS TO DO THE INSTRUCTION FOR THEM, BUT IT'S WORK OUTSIDE OF THEIR CONTRACT AT THE SECONDARY LEVEL ELEMENTARY IT'S, IT'S ACTUAL TEACHERS, FULL-TIME TEACHERS THAT ARE THERE FOR THE DURATION OF THIS FUNDING, THE STUDENT, UH, THE STUDENT SUPPORT COACHES AND, AND, UH, ASSISTANCE AND SO FORTH.
UM, THEY, THEY SERVE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT, UH, ROLES.
A LOT OF THOSE ARE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT THINGS.
ONE IS FOR REMEDIATION AS THE STUDENTS ARE RETURNING BACK FROM, UM, VIRTUAL TO IN-PERSON AND SOME STUDENTS THEMSELVES, WHEN THE SCHOOL SHUT DOWN IN MARCH OF 2020, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME, YOU KNOW, SECOND GRADERS, PERHAPS OUR FIRST GRADER, PERHAPS THAT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN IN THE BUILDING, BECAUSE IF THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN ON VIRTUAL LEARNING AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
SO WE'VE IMPLEMENTED, UM, AS PART OF SOME OF THE OTHER FUNDING HERE, WE'VE IMPLEMENTED SOME REMEDIATION TYPE PROGRAMS WHERE THE, UH, THE SUPPORT COACHES, UH, THEY WORK WITH THE, UH, ASSISTANCE TO THE PULL STUDENTS TO DEAL WITH A LEARNING LOSS OR LAW ARE LEARNING THAT WAS UNFINISHED DUE TO THE, TO THE PANDEMIC, AS WELL AS, UM, REMEDIATION GROUPS.
WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE SOME PROGRAMS, SOME MATH PROGRAMS AND SOME DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROGRAMS THAT ARE, UM, UH, COMPUTERIZED AND THEY PROVIDE, UH, SUPPORT LESSONS AND TO WHAT THE TEACHER IS DOING.
AND THESE, THESE PEOPLE ARE WORKING WITH, WITH THOSE STUDENTS ALSO WORKING THROUGH WITH STUDENTS WITH JUST SOME EMOTIONAL NEEDS, THE TRANSITION BACK INTO SCHOOLS, UH, SOME OF THE BEHAVIORS THAT ARE, THAT WOULD BE EXHIBITED TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THOSE STUDENTS IN SMALL SECTIONS, UH, OUR GROUPS TO BE ABLE TO, UM, UM, UH, CREATE A PLAN OF REENTRY BACK INTO THE CLASSROOM OF, UM, OF JUST, YOU KNOW, HOW YOUR ACTIONS AFFECT OTHERS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
SO IT'S KIND OF, UH, UM, LET ME WORK WITH YOU, UM, WITH YOUR OWN INDIVIDUAL NEEDS AND THAT COMPLIMENTS THE INSTRUCTION AND THE TIME THAT THEY'RE IN THE CLASSROOM AS JUST WITH, AS WITH A WHOLE CLASSROOM, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUDENT SUPPORT ASSISTANCE, OR IS IT JUST FULL? NO, IT'S ACTUALLY A TOTAL, WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY A TOTAL OF 17 ASSISTANTS AND 17 OF THE SUPPORT COACHES.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 34 ADDITIONAL FOLKS.
THAT HAD BEEN WORKING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DIVISION AT ALL.
OUR SCHOOL DOES ALL OUR SCHOOLS AND VARIOUS DIFFERENT PROGRAMS TO HELP SUPPORT WHETHER IT BE VIRTUAL IN PERSON BEHAVIOR, OR REMEDIATION OUR TEMPORARY POSITIONS, THEY'RE FUNDED WITH THIS GRANT FUNDING.
UM, WE'VE BEEN GUARANTEED FUNDING THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR.
UM, WHETHER IT GOES BEYOND THAT, WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET.
UM, BUT WE WILL INCLUDE THESE POSITIONS IN OUR, UH, REQUEST TO YOU FOR OUR BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR WHEN WE COME TO YOU IN THE SPRING WITH THAT.
UM, BUT WHEN WE CREATED THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, WE DIDN'T KNOW THESE FUNDS WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR THESE USES.
SO, UM, THEY ARE TEMPORARY POSITIONS AT THIS POINT, UM, BECAUSE FUNDING IS ONLY GUARANTEED THIS SCHOOL YEAR AND NOW, SO YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE A PLAN FOR BEYOND THAT, OTHER THAN COMING BACK TO THE COUNTY AND SAYING, I NEED, I NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDS, OR WE HOPE THERE'LL BE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
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WILL DIMINISH OVER THAT TIME TO GETTING THESE STUDENTS UP TO SPEED AND BACK TO WHERE, WHERE WE WOULD HOPE THEY'D BE.HAD WE NOT HAD TO GO THROUGH WHAT WE WENT THROUGH THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF WITH INSTRUCTION.
I HOPE WE DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM EITHER.
AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE KIND OF PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT CAUSE YEAH.
UM, AND I, AND I HATE DOING THAT IN A WAY, BUT, UM, IT, LIKE I SAID, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE HAD.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, IT SAYS ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE AND THERE'S A FOUR THERE, SO FOUR 17 THAT'S.
UM, AND I THINK FROM LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
SHOULD WE? DON'T JUST, WE'RE OUT THERE IS JUST A REFERENCE, WHICH REVENUE SOURCE UP ABOVE IT IS.
BUT I CAN SEE WHERE FOR US, IF YOU'VE, UM, TH THE 34 EQUATES TO ABOUT 14,000 PER TEACHER, IF YOU'VE GOT 34 TEACHERS AND THAT'S ABOUT THE AVERAGE ASSISTANT PAY.
I MEAN, I'M JUST IN MY OWN MIND, THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOT.
AND NOT THAT I, THE MONEY IS FREE.
NO, NO, IT'S NOT FREE, BUT I THINK WE'RE PAYING FOR IT IN THE GROCERY STORE.
BUT ANYWAY, UM, OUT OF THOSE THOUGH, HOW MANY OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY DOING WHAT THEY WERE HIRED TO DO? CAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE GOT CLASSROOMS, YOU DON'T HAVE TEACHERS IN YET, AND YOU HAVE A LACK OF SUBSTITUTES.
SO ARE THEY ACTUALLY DOING WHAT YOU WERE HIRED TO DO AND SUPPORTING THESE CHILDREN WITH EXTRA? OR ARE THEY FILLING IN WHERE YOU JUST DON'T HAVE ANYBODY A COMBINATION OF ALL, WE HAVE, UH, SITUATIONS WHERE, AND WE'RE NOT, UH, UNCOMMON AND WHAT I'M ABOUT READY TO SAY.
IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, UH, IT'S COMMON RIGHT NOW IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA.
I WAS RECENTLY AT A CONFERENCE IN HARRISONBURG AND OUT OF ALL THE SCHOOL DIVISIONS THAT WERE THERE, NOT ALL DIVISIONS WERE REPRESENTED, BUT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF THOSE WERE REPRESENTED.
AND THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOUR STAFF IS FULL, AS FAR AS TEACHING STAFF, ONE SCHOOL DIVISION RAISED THEIR HAND.
SO IT'S BEEN, UM, IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE.
UH, WE STILL DO HAVE POSITIONS OF WHICH EITHER WE HAVE A SUB AND THAT ROOM, OR, UM, WE HAVE COMBINED, UH, UM, SOME CLASSES, UH, TO MAKE MANAGEABLE SIZES.
THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, SUBSTITUTES ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND, UH, OURSELVES, ALONG WITH OTHER AGENCIES HAVE TAKEN THE APPROACH TO BE ABLE TO ENTICE PEOPLE WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, YOU SEE IT ACROSS THE BOARD TO BE ABLE TO, UH, TO GET QUALIFIED, UH, QUALIFIED SUBS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IN, AND THERE'S JUST VERY FEW TAKERS.
SO THESE PEOPLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, THEIR MS. COLORS, YES, THEY HAVE ACTUALLY FILLED IN, IN MULTIPLE ROLES.
HAD THEY BEEN ABLE TO DO ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ANTICIPATED FOR THEM TO DO, UH, COLLECTIVELY ACROSS THE BOARD? NOT REALLY BECAUSE ON A DAILY BASIS, UM, EVEN IF YOU HAVE A SMALL AMOUNT OF STAFF OUT WHEN YOU ARE SHORT, A FEW SUBS HERE AND THERE, AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, IT REALLY TURNS THE REST OF THE SCHOOL, UH, DIFFICULT.
IT'S DIFFICULT TO BE ABLE TO FIND, UH, UH, PEOPLE TO COME IN TO, TO COVER THAT.
SO YOU'RE COVERING IT FROM WITHIN.
SO, UM, THEY'VE SERVED MULTIPLE DIFFERENT ROLES.
UM, AND, AND W OUR ANTICIPATION OR HOPE IS, IS THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC AND PEOPLE RETURN THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE THEM MORE SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT, UH, INTENT, BUT THEIR PRESENCE AND THEIR ABILITY TO SERVE.
AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE HAS BEEN INVALUABLE FOR US TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THIS GOING.
IT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF STUDENTS AND SO FORTH HAVE, HAVE BEEN OUT OF SCHOOL OR ARE, OR THEY HAD BEEN AT HOME OR VARIOUS DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVE TYPE OF WAYS.
AND THAT TO BRING FOLKS BACK INTO THE SCHOOL TO GO BACK TO THE TRADITIONAL SETTING FOR SOME STUDENTS HAS, IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT, I THINK, UH, FOR ADULTS ON CERTAIN TYPE OF CHANGES THAT WE'VE HAD, IT'S, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT.
AND, UM, I'M NOT SURE, UH, AS FAR AS THOSE TOTAL NUMBER OF, UH, ASSISTANCE AND, UH, TEACHERS, UH, HOW MANY VACANCIES STILL LIE WITHIN THAT NUMBER THAT, UM, THAT WE ARE USING THE FUNDS, UH, WOULD BE USING THE FUNDS FOR.
SO I CAN'T SAY THAT ALL 17 OF THOSE ASSISTANTS AND TEACHERS AND SO FORTH, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA WITH ME HERE THIS EVENING.
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PEOPLE TO COVER LOTS OF POSITIONS.I WOULD SUGGEST WHEN YOU COME TO US IN BUDGET TIME, IN ORDER TO GIVE US AN IDEA OF HOW EFFECTIVE THEY'VE BEEN FOR WHAT THEY TRULY WERE HIRED FOR THAT YOU HAVE THAT BROKEN DOWN INTO HOW MANY OF THEM ACTUALLY DID WHAT THEY WERE HIRED FOR VERSUS SUBBING AND THAT KIND OF THING.
SO THAT WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHERE TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT.
I MEAN, IF BASICALLY WHAT THEY ENDED UP DOING WAS FILLING IN UNTIL YOU FOUND A TEACHER OR SUBBING, HOW ARE WE GOING TO JUSTIFY THAT NUMBER FOR THE REMEDIATION THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO VERSUS A CONTINUAL, WELL, THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO MAKE, WE CAN'T FIND SUBS.
IT'S DEFINITELY NOT OUR INTENT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THEM IN THAT ROLE.
UM, HOWEVER, THEY ARE BE, IT, THEY ARE, ARE, THEY ARE BEING UTILIZED AND WHAT WE INTENDED THEM TO DO, BUT IT'S, THERE ARE DAYS WHERE THAT JUST, THAT JUST DOESN'T.
I EMPATHIZE WITH THE POSITION THAT YOU'RE ALL IN, BUT I THINK TO GIVE US A TRUE IDEA THAT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SOME TEACHERS WOULDN'T GET PLANNING TIMES IF IT WEREN'T FOR THESE PEOPLE FILLING IN, I HAVE SEVERAL TEACHERS WHO SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT I AM PLANNING IS CRUCIAL.
EVERYBODY NEEDS A BREAK IN THE MIDDLE OF, YOU KNOW, THE DAY TO, TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, AND SOME OF, I KNOW SOME OF THESE TEACHERS ARE TEACHING AT DIFFERENT LEVELS.
AND SO THEY HAVE TO PREPARE THEMSELVES TO MOVE TO THE NEXT LEVEL OR TO MOVE DOWN A LEVEL OR WHATEVER AS THEY GO THROUGHOUT THEIR DAY.
SO THAT'S WHAT MOST OF, AT LEAST THE FOLKS THAT I'VE DISCUSSED THIS WITH HAVE TOLD ME THAT THEY'RE FUNCTIONING IN THAT ROLE AND THE, UM, THE PERSONNEL AND THESE PHYSICIANS REALIZE THAT THESE WERE THROUGH A GRANT WITH A TWO YEAR PROGRAM.
THIS PROGRAM ITSELF REALLY IS DESIGNED TO BASICALLY PUT, PUT LIKE A BRIDGE BETWEEN WHERE WE WERE AND WHERE ARE WE GOING? AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
SO ULTIMATELY, IF THIS IS SUCCESSFUL, THEN SO MANY OF THOSE POSITIONS AND SO FORTH IN THE FUTURE, YOU CAN GO BACK, WON'T BE NEEDED.
YOU WOULD GO BACK TO AS YOU, AS WE WERE, WHICH WOULD BE, UH, EXTREMELY NICE.
I THINK OUR SITUATION IS CHANGED FOREVER.
I MEAN, THERE MAY BE A PROBLEM ON ANY LEVEL ON ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE A PROBLEM, BUT HOW TO OFF THE WALL QUESTIONS.
AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME.
HOW MANY TEACHERS ARE YOU SHORT TODAY? I'M ONLY PAUL'S I'M BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO VISUALIZE, OBVIOUSLY I WAS HR DIRECTOR IN THE PAST, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN IN THAT ROLE SINCE JULY, UM, THERE'S TEACHERS THAT SEEMS HIGH.
THERE'S LIKE YOUR BEST GETS TWO OR THREE.
I MEAN, THERE'S THREE OR SO AT ELEMENTARY AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.
UM, AND MIDDLE THEY'RE PROBABLY, I WOULD SAY DOUBLE DIGITS, BUT I DON'T, HONESTLY, SIR, I, I, IT'S 50 DOUBLE DIGITS, LIKE DOUBLE DIGITS, 10 DOUBLE DIGITS, 15 DOUBLE DIGITS, 14.
YOU CAN GET THAT NUMBER TOMORROW, GETTING AN EXACT NUMBER AS A DOCTOR DAILY, THEN HE CAN, I'M SURE SHE'LL SHARE MY NEXT QUESTIONS.
MY NEXT QUESTION IS FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE, HOW MANY, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE YOU SHORT FROM THE POSITIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ADMINISTRATIVELY? THOSE THAT WE ELECTED NOT TO FILL, WE SHOULD BE FULL.
AND THOSE POSITIONS, ANY POSITION THAT WE ELECTED NOT TO FILL COMING OUT OF LAST YEAR? UM, OBVIOUSLY WOULDN'T COUNT.
THEY'RE OPEN, BUT THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT PLANNED TO BE FILLED BECAUSE ADMINISTRATIVE TELLING ME IS YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ADMINISTRATIVE OPEN AND YOU HAVE 14, 14 FOR LACK OF A BETTER NUMBER OF TEACHERS THAT ARE NOT THERE.
AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO PUT 31, TEACHERS ARE 34 TEACHERS IN, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
YOU ONLY KNOW THAT THERE'S 34 THAT NEED TO BE IN THERE HELPING ARE THESE 17 PEOPLE, THOSE CERTIFIED TEACHERS, OR ARE THEY AT A LEVEL OF EXPERTISE THAT THEY TRANSITIONED OVER? NO, THE, UM, THESE SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS
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THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO THE STUDENT SUPPORT COACHES ARE NOT CERTIFIED TEACHERS.THEY ARE, UH, BACHELOR, DEGREED, UH, PERSONNEL.
THEY DO HAVE THAT, UH, ACTUALLY IT'S, UM, IT'S, IT'S SORT OF BEEN LIKE A, A FUTURE SAVING GRACE.
I HOPE IN THE SENSE THAT QUITE A FEW OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE LIKE, UH, COUNSELING BACKGROUNDS, UH, SOME SOCIAL WORK BACKGROUNDS, THAT TYPE OF THINGS, AND THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT BEING ABLE TO, UH, TO, UH, COMPLETE THEIR, THEIR PRAXIS COURSEWORK AND SO FORTH TO BECOME A TEACHER IN THOSE AREAS, ESPECIALLY COUNSELING SCHOOL COUNSELING RIGHT NOW IS A VERY DIFFICULT, UH, UH, CAREER PATH TO, TO FIND, UH, SCHOOL COUNSELORS.
UM, AND, UH, WE'RE, WE ARE, UH, SHORT, UH, A COUNSELOR, UH, BUT, UM, AS I LOOK AROUND, UM, THE VALLEY, UH, THEIR NUMBERS ARE MUCH GREATER THAN, THAN OURS.
ALTHOUGH MY FOCUS IS ON US, UM, THAT THAT'S AN AREA THAT I THINK WE MAY HAVE TO START GROWING OUR OWN AND AS WELL, BUT THOSE STUDENTS SUPPORT COACHES ARE DEGREED INDIVIDUALS.
UM, SOME, YOU COULD HAVE A FEW IN THERE WITH A LICENSE, BUT MAJORITY DO NOT, BUT THEY NORMALLY HAVE A DEGREE IN SOMETHING THAT IS VERY SIMILAR TO, UH, WORKING WITH YOUTH ARE WORKING, UH, IN THE MENTAL HEALTH FIELDS OR WORKING IN SOMETHING THAT WOULD COMPLIMENT EDUCATION, BEEN ANY THOUGHT TO TAKE SOME OF YOUR ADMIN STAFF THAT WERE FORMER TEACHERS AND PUT THEM IN CLASSROOMS. I LET DR.
BALLENGER IS BIG ON BACK HALF OF THAT.
I A THOUGHT, I KNOW A LOT OF THEM WERE TEACHERS, SO I THOUGHT, WELL, YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN, OH, AS FAR AS SABINE.
UM, I'VE SUBBED, UH, MR. FOX, UH, WE'VE COVERED PARKING LOT DUTY.
WE'VE GOT EVERY CAFETERIA DUTY INSTRUCTIONAL TIME, SO RIGHT.
UM, SOME OF THE INSTRUCTIONAL PEOPLE IN OUR OFFICE HAVE GONE OUT TO, TO, TO COVER THOSE CLASSES.
SO, UM, IT HAS BEEN SORT OF ALL HANDS ON DECK, VERY SOMEWHAT A TRANSPORTATION WHERE AT TIMES WE MAY HAVE TO PULL FROM OUR GARAGE OR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IN ORDER TO GET THE, UH, THE, UH, COVERAGE FOR, FOR BUS DRIVERS.
UM, MY THOUGHT IS I WOULD REALLY, I REALLY WANT TO STAND BEHIND THE THOUGHT THAT I HAVE, THAT EVERY CHILD SHOULD GET THE BEST EDUCATION THAT THEY POSSIBLY CAN FROM THE EDUCATORS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
AND I THINK THAT WE, AS A COMMUNITY, OR AT LEAST MY COMMUNITY, THAT, THAT HAVE TALKED TO ME ABOUT THIS, THEY WANT TO KNOW THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS THE BEST FOR THE, FOR THE CHILD, NOT THE BEST FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD.
AND I'M NOT TRYING TO THROW STONES AT THE SCHOOL BOARD BECAUSE THAT'S A HARD JOB, JUST LIKE YOURS IS A HARD JOB, BUT I WANT TO SEE THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE GET EDUCATED AND TO THROW MONEY AT IT.
JUST BECAUSE YOU ASKED FOR IT, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME.
YOU CAN FIX THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE, IF YOU CAN'T GET THE TEACHERS, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE AIDS? HI, THE QUESTION, IF YOU WILL.
UH, THIS, THIS $4 MILLION IT'S BEING A BAIT MADE AVAILABLE, AND IT APPEARS TO BE JUST A ONE YEAR THING.
WHAT WOULD THE COUNTY BE IN A SITUATION IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR THAT MORE FUNDS WOULD WHEN THIS MONEY IS NOT AVAILABLE, THAT MORE FUNDS FROM THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO BECOME, COME FORTH TO COVER SOME OF THE EXPENSES THAT MAY BE TAKEN ON WITH WHAT'S BEING DONE HERE NOW? WELL, AGAIN, MOST OF THESE, UM, GRANTS, THIS GRANT MONEY IS A TWO YEAR GRANT.
SO WE WILL BE COMING BACK NEXT YEAR AND ASKING TO HAVE THAT FOR OUR BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.
UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SPECULATION THAT THERE MAY BE A THIRD YEAR, BUT WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT AT THIS POINT.
UM, AND AGAIN, OUR HOPE WOULD BE THESE POSITIONS HAVE VERY SPECIFIC, UM, GOALS TO HELP BRING OUR STUDENTS UP TO WHERE WE WANT THEM TO BE AND WHERE THEY DESERVE TO BE HAD THERE NOT BEEN THIS PANDEMIC.
AND IF THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL IN THAT, THEN THE NEED, YOU KNOW, SHOULD DIMINISH FOR A LOT OF THESE POSITIONS, IF THAT, SO MO FUNDING MAY BE AVAILABLE FOR FALL FOLLOWING YEARS AS WELL.
I KNOW THAT CURRENTLY, MR. FOX IN OUR OFFICE IS WORKING ON A, UH, A GRANT OR AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND ONE OF THOSE GRANTS FOR A THIRD YEAR.
UM, SO A LOT OF, SOME OF THAT WORK'S ALREADY, UH, IN PROGRESS.
UM, BUT YEAH, THESE ARE, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THESE ARE THE SORT OF POSITIONS YOU COULD DESCRIBE AS A BRIDGE
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FROM WHERE WE WORK TO, WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE TO WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT GOING.WELL, WE'LL LET YOU OUT OF THE HOT SEAT AND OPENS UP TO THE PUBLIC.
WOULD, IS ANYONE SIGNED ON THIS? WOMEN'S JUST SHIRAKI NO.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM SO I CAN CALL ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK THIRD AND FINAL TIME PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
WHAT IS FOR OTHER BOARD? MADAM CHAIR? YES, SIR.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOT APPROPRIATE THIS PRIDE AT THIS MINUTE.
I WOULD PREFER THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY FOR.
AND GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AND WE'LL CONSIDER IT A LATER DATE.
DAILY, IS THERE A TIMEFRAME ON THIS? WELL, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, SIR, WOULD BE TO PUT IT ON YOUR WORK SESSION FOR DECEMBER THE SEVENTH SO THAT YOU CAN VOTE ON IT DECEMBER 14TH, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DELAY IT TOO, TOO LONG.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? SO I, DR.
BALLENGER PRESENTED THE SPREADSHEET TO US AT LAST WORK SESSION.
AND I MEAN, HE, HE PRESENTED THE SPREADSHEET AND OUTLINE WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO WITH THE MONEY.
THE CARES ACT FUNDS ARE OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY'S SPENDING.
AND SO IF WE DON'T APPROPRIATE IT, SUPERVISOR MADE, THEN WE LOSE THE MONEY.
SO I'M NOT SURE IT'S SORTA LIKE MY GRANDMA USED TO SAY, YOU CUT YOUR NOSE OFF TO SPITE YOUR FACE.
SO I PERSONALLY THINK THAT TABLING, IT IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILDREN.
WE'RE TRYING TO EDUCATE, UM, THE FUNDS ARE THERE.
THE GOVERNMENT HAS APPROPRIATED THEM, WHETHER I AGREE WITH THAT OR NOT.
AND SO AT THIS POINT, I THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO JUST GO AHEAD AND, AND APPROPRIATE THE FUNDS.
BALLENGER TO COME BACK IN DECEMBER AND JUST TELL US HOW THIS IS BEING DONE, OR WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE EFFICACY OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE AT THIS POINT? ARE WE ACTUALLY SEEING IMPROVEMENTS? ARE WE NOT SEEING IMPROVEMENTS? ARE THERE GAPS THEN PERHAPS THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER APPROACH.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.
MADAM CHAIR, MAY I MAKE US? YES, SIR.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE DOLLARS.
I UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE, WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE BEING SPENT ON RIGHT NOW.
AND WE'VE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT, SIT ON IT AND HAVE A DR.
BALLENGER COME BACK ON THE SEVENTH AND THEN WE CAN VOTE ON, ON THE 20TH.
NO, THE, THE MO THE FUNDS ARE YOURS AT THIS POINT, THE WARREN COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEM, RIGHT.
IT DOESN'T GO AWAY FOR ANYTHING.
WE JUST NEED TO APPROPRIATE IT TO THEM.
AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE BEING APPROPRIATED FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION IN THOSE SECONDS AND THEN A SECOND CONSIDERATION.
SO IS THERE, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE FIRST MOTION.
IS THERE STILL, NO SECOND ON THAT SECOND MOTION, WHICH ONE WOULD YOU LIKE ON MR. MAPES? IF THAT ONE FAILS? WELL, MR. MAYBES FAILS DUE TO THE LACK OF SECOND.
SO THERE'S MRS. OATES TO APPROPRIATE IT.
UM, DO YOU WANT TO READ IT? YEAH.
I MOVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AMEND THE
I MRS. OATS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO STILL INVITE DR.
BALLENGER TO COME ON THE SEVENTH, PLEASE.
SO YOU WANT HIM TO COME ON THE SEVENTH? MA'AM
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YES.AND WHAT DO YOU WANT, UM, I WOULD LIKE A GOOD BREAKDOWN OF LIKE ONE, YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, YOUR OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE, AND ALL OF THAT.
INSTEAD OF IT JUST BEING THAT KIND OF BREAK IT DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT EACH OF THOSE THINGS IS GOING TO BE.
[I.5. Conditional Use Permit 2021-09-01, Terra Site Constructors, LLC for a Contractor’s Storage Yard Located at 6986 Winchester Road and Identified on Tax Map 4, as Lot 43B – Joe Petty]
ITEM FIVE, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2021 DASH OH NINE DASH OH ONE TERRACE SITE CONSTRUCTORS, LLC FOR CONTRACTORS STORAGE YARD LOCATED AT 69 86 WINCHESTER ROAD AND IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP FOUR AS LOT 43 B.THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A CONTRACTOR STORAGE YARD.
THEY CURRENTLY HAVE A LOCATION AT 900 SHENANDOAH SHORES ROAD, WHICH IS LOCATED WITHIN TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL THAT THEIR BUSINESS HAS GROWN CONSIDERABLY SINCE 2014 AND MORE SPACES NEEDED.
THE BUSINESS OPERATES YEAR ROUND.
WE'LL BE OPEN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 8:00 AM TO 5:00 PM.
THERE IS AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ON THE PROPERTY THAT WILL USED AS AN OFFICE OR POSSIBLY EVEN HOUSING.
SOME OF THEIR FULL-TIME STAFF, UH, IN THE AREA.
THEY DO PLAN TO CONSTRUCT A WAREHOUSE STORAGE BUILDING, AND IT WOULD BE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
I BELIEVE THERE IS A SITE PLAN IN YOUR PACKET THAT KIND OF ILLUSTRATES THAT CONCEPTUALLY IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT, WHICH WE'VE DISCUSSED IN PREVIOUS APPLICATIONS FOR VARIOUS USES.
SO THEY DO HAVE TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, THEIR ENGINEER, AND THEY ARE WELL AWARE OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND WORKING TOWARDS COMPLIANCE IF APPROVED THE PROPERTY HAS NEVER HAD ANY CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
THE HOUSE WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1994, AND IT WAS REZONED FROM AGRICULTURAL TO INDUSTRIAL IN 2017, BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THERE ARE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
MOST OF THOSE ARE RELATED TO THE HIGHWAY QUARTER OVERLAY, DISTRICT ARCHITECTURAL AND TRANSPORTATION NEEDS, UM, UH, FOREGO READING ALL THE CONDITIONS AT THIS TIME.
THEY ARE KIND OF OUR STANDARD KINDA, UH, COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL IN THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT.
UM, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN COMMUNICATED WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND APPLICANT.
THEY ARE HERE THIS EVENING, UM, THEIR ENGINEER IN THE APP, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A SITE PLAN QUEUED UP, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO VIEW IT ON THE SCREEN, WE CAN ALSO ACCOMMODATE THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? GOOD EVENING.
I'M ED BLACKWELL, FLACO ENGINEERING, UH, REPRESENTING THE OWNER, UM, HUNTER GROUP.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, UH, JOSEPH APLEY STATED THEY NEEDED A NEW BUILDING.
THERE'S OTHER WAREHOUSING IT'S, UH, SUITS THEIR NEEDS FOR THE ACCESS TO THE HIGHWAY TO GET IT TO THE INTERSTATE SYSTEM THAT THEY DO WORK ON.
SO, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM, FROM, FROM THE ENGINEERING POINT OF VIEW, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER, USE QUESTIONS.
IF YOU HAVE MORE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOUR APPROVAL TONIGHT.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? MS. SHIRAKI HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME? SECOND CALL ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK THIRD AND FINAL? OKAY.
ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I CLOSE FROM THE BOARD? PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR CHAIR SITE CONSTRUCTORS, LLC, FOR THE CONTRACTOR STORAGE YARD, WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.
SECOND ROLL CALL MRS. SHIRAKI.
I MR. MAINE, MR. BOX PASSIVES.
[I.6. Conditional Use Permit 2021-09-02, Gordon Lee Birkhimer for a Short-Term Tourist Rental Located at 52 Forest View Drive and Identified on Tax Map 18G, Section 2, as Lot 15 – Matt Wendling]
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2021 DASH OH NINE DASH OH TWO, GORDON LEE BERKHEIMER FOR SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL LOCATED AT 52 FOURS VIEW DRIVE AND IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP.18 G SECTION TWO, LOCKED 15, MR. WINDLEY.
YES, THE APPLICANT'S, UH, APPLICANT STATES THAT HE WILL BE CIRCUMNAVIGATING THE WORLD IN A SAILBOAT OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
AND HE WOULD LIKE TO RENT ON A SHORT-TERM BASIS, HIS HOME FOR THAT
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TWO YEAR PERIOD.HE DOES PLAN TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AND VACATION RENTAL COMPANY MANAGE THE PROPERTY.
WHO'S A NEIGHBOR WILL BE MAINTAINING THE GROUNDS AND THE SECURITY FOR THE PROPERTY.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED OFF OF PRIVATE ROAD IN A SMALL SUBDIVISION, MASONITE AND FARMS, WHICH DOES HAVE A POA HOA, WHICH PRIMARY DUTY IS TO MAINTAIN THE ROADS.
UM, THE AFRICAN, UH, HAS CONTACTED THE POA MANAGER.
I'VE SPOKEN WITH HIM AND THERE WAS NO ISSUES WITH THIS USE OTHER THAN HE WAS CONCERNED THAT ATVS COULD BE ON THE ROAD.
UM, AS THIS WENT THROUGH THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION FELT THAT, UM, CONSISTENT WITH A LOT OF THE OTHERS THAT THEY'VE BEEN PASSING, UH, THEY SHOULD AMEND THE CONDITIONS TO PROHIBIT ATVS AND WHEN THE ROAD WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION, AND IT ALSO PROHIBIT THE DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS AND HUNTING BY GUESTS WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION.
UM, AND AS PART OF THE SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL, UM, WE HAVE RECEIVED TWO, UH, LETTERS, UM, FROM PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE VOICED OPPOSITION, MS. PHYLLIS, RIGHT OF 53 FOREST VIEW DRIVE AND MR. SCOTT AND MRS. PAMELA ROADS OF 31 41 MOUNTAIN ROAD, AND THEY LIST VARIOUS REASONS FOR THEIR OPPOSITION.
PRIMARILY, I THINK IT WAS NOISE, UM, BURNING, OPEN FIRES, UM, SECURITY AND PRIVACY, AND THEN ALSO ONE MENTIONS, UH, ALLOWING DOGS TO RUN FREE.
WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED TWO, UH, LETTERS OF SUPPORT.
UH, MR. BURKHEIMER REACHED OUT TO HIS NEIGHBORS, UH, MR. DALE SERGEANT AT ONE FOREST VIEW DRIVE AND MR. WILLIAM RHODES AT 80 FOREST VIEW DRIVE WHO HAVE, UH, GIVEN THEIR SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION.
UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, WHICH ARE ALL TYPICALLY THE STANDARD AND THEN THE ADDED TO AMENDED TWO CONDITIONS.
UM, NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, ORANGE COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS OF VIRGINIA STATEWIDE, FIRE PREVENTION, CODE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.
NUMBER TWO, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DOCUMENTS SHALL NOT EXCEED EIGHT.
AS DETERMINED, ACCORDING TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, OPERATIONAL PERMIT FOR A FOUR BEDROOM, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, NUMBER THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE WELL WATER TESTED ANNUALLY FOR ECO-LINE CON EL COLIFORM BACTERIA, AND A COPY OF THE RESULTS SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO PLANNING AND HEALTH DEPARTMENTS.
NUMBER FOUR, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE A SEPTIC SYSTEM INSPECTED ANNUALLY BY A STATE LICENSE INSPECTOR, AND A COPY OF THE RESULTS SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO PLANNING AND HEALTH DEPARTMENTS.
THE SYSTEM SHALL ALSO BE SERVICED EVERY FIVE YEARS IS RECOMMENDED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND A COPY OF THE SERVICE INVOICE SHALL BE PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
AND NUMBER FIVE, THE DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS AND HUNTING ON THE PROPERTY BY GUESTS SHALL BE PROHIBITED THE USE OF ALT AND NUMBER SIX, THE USE OF ALL-TERRAIN VEHICLES BY GUESTS WHEN THE PROPERTY AND WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION SHALL BE PROHIBITED.
UH, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THIS PROP PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
JASON PROPERTY OWNERS ARE NOTIFIED AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING.
I'D LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME.
IF YOU WILL, ON A NUMBER, UH, DID YOU SAY THE AQUAVIT SHALL NOT EXCEED EIGHT? THERE'S ANOTHER.
GORDON BERKHEIMER FIVE TO FOREST VIEW DRIVE FRONT ROYAL, VIRGINIA.
I THINK I'VE WENT THROUGH THE RIGOROUS, UM, REQUIREMENTS AND, UM, IT SEEMS TO BE A FAIRLY DECENT, UM, PROPOSAL TO GO THROUGH.
SO, UH, OTHER THAN, UM, YOU KNOW, IF I GET THE APPROVAL AND THE HEALTH INSPECTION AND OTHER THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED, UM, I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE ORDER THERE AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UM, I HAVE A PROFESSIONAL, UM, MANAGEMENT AGENCY, UM, EVOLVE AS THE NAME OF THE COMPANY.
AND, UM, THEY SEEM TO BE PRETTY GOOD AND I HAVE MY NEIGHBORS, UH, ONE'S CUTTING THE GRASS AND ONE'S MAINTAINING THEIR PROPERTY FOR ME.
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YEAH.MY SISTER LIVES IN WINCHESTER.
THEY'RE ALSO THERE FOR SUPPORT.
SO, UM, I THINK WE'VE COVERED ALL THE BASES.
UM, SO I JUST ASKED FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT? MRS. SHIRAKI HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR THIS? NO.
WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES MA'AM.
IF YOU'D STEP UP AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
I LIVE AT 3 1 4 1 MOUNTAIN ROAD.
MY PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO HIS AND ONE-ON-ONES YOU SENT A LETTER AND I SPOKE LAST TIME.
I DIDN'T MOVE TO THE FRONT ROYAL 30 YEARS AGO TO HAVE BE NEXT TO A PROPERTY THAT WAS RENTING OUT, WHO WAS HAVING STRANGE PEOPLE COME IN.
UM, I DIDN'T MOVE HERE TO HAVE, UM, A BOARD AND BREAKFAST NEAR ME.
I DIDN'T COME HERE TO HAVE HOTEL NEAR ME.
I CAME HERE FOR PRIVACY TO RAISE MY CHILDREN, TO HAVE MY ANIMALS, TO LIVE ON MY FIVE ACRES, WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT STRANGE PEOPLE COMING IN, MAYBE POSSIBLY EVERY WEEKEND, EVERY WEEK, EVERY MONTH, WHO MAY BE DOING PARTIES WHO MAY BE DOING LIGHTS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
YOU MAY HAVE DOGS RUNNING THROUGH MY PROPERTY.
I'M TOTALLY HAPPY WITH HIM PRIVATELY WITH ALL MY NEIGHBORS, LIVING PRIVATELY IN THEIR HOMES WITHOUT BEING DISTURBED.
AND IF THERE IS A PROBLEM, I THINK TALK TO A NEIGHBOR AND SAY, LOOK, THIS HAPPENED.
AND IT'S THE SAME THING FOR THEM TO ME.
MA'AM WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME, SECOND CALL THERE TO VINYL CALL PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I JUST HAVE ONCE OR SINCE THERE WAS, UH, UM, IN THE ONE, THE LETTER IN THE LADY JUST ASKED ABOUT DOGS.
IS THAT SOMETHING I, I ASSUME YOU WANT TO COME BACK TO A HOUSE THAT'S INTACT.
SO, I MEAN, WHAT IS YOUR STAND ON DOGS? CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S NOTHING IN HERE.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD THAT IN YOUR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT ALREADY AND YES, GORDON CALMER.
UM, THEY ASKED THAT QUESTION AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY FOUR DOGS IN THE HOUSE, BUT, UM, I DIDN'T WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT FAMILIES LIKE TO BRING THEIR PETS WITH THEM ON VACATION.
AND SO I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE THAT.
UM, SO I SAID PETS COULD BE ALLOWED AND THEN THEY WOULD PAY AN ADDITIONAL FEE.
UM, BUT IN MY, IN MY MANAGEMENT PLAN, UM, UM, I I'VE WRITTEN IT SO THAT I'M PRETTY STRICT AND I'VE, I HAVE A FIRM BOUNDARY AND I HAVE MARKED THE BOUNDARY IN PURPLE PAINT.
AND I HAVE SAID, UH, THAT YOU CAN'T CROSS THAT LINE BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE TRESPASSING AND YOU MIGHT BE PROSECUTED.
SO, I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO BE VERY FIRM WITH, SO, UM, I MEAN WE COULD WRITE SOMETHING ADDITIONALLY IN THERE, IF YOU HAVE PETS, YOU CAN'T LET THEM JUST WANDER THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I DON'T THINK MOST PEOPLE DO THAT, BUT, UM, IF THAT'S THE CON STIPULATION, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M WILLING TO DO THAT.
ANY I, YES, MS. COLORS, UH, WE CAN EITHER HAVE LANGUAGE PUT IN A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT, UH, ANIMALS PET SHALL BE KEPT ON ALICIA AT ALL TIMES WENT OUTSIDE OF THE DWELLING OR YOU COULD ADD IT AS A CONDITION, UH, EITHER WAY I, WE, WE WOULD VERIFY.
AND THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA, NOT ONLY FOR
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YOUR NEIGHBORS, PEACE OF MIND, BUT UM, EVEN CITY DOGS, THEY MAY NOT KNOW WHAT A DEER OR A RABBIT LOOKS LIKE, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO CHASE IT.AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO GO TRAIPSING THROUGH THE WOODS TRYING TO GET THEIR DOG BACK.
SO IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA OF, FOR BOTH SIDES ON THAT, UM, FROM BEING A DOG LOVER AND WHO HAS TWO BIG DOGS.
THEY WOULD MIND WOULD BE GONE IN OUR BAIT.
SO, UM, AND IT'S UP TO THE BOARD AS FAR AS THAT, BUT I THINK YOU BEING IN THE MANAGEMENT PLAN WOULD, WOULD SATISFY ME.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THE BOARD FEELS ABOUT THAT.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. WYNN LANE OR I, I, YEP.
IF THERE ARE COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS, UH, WHAT'S THE PROCEDURE WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT TO ADDRESS THOSE COMPLAINTS.
AND IN CASE THERE IS SOME THANKS, TYPICALLY IMMEDIATE COMPLAINTS IN THE EVENING.
YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY WAS HAVING A PARTY, THERE WAS A LOT OF NOISE AND WHATNOT GOING ON, THAT'S GOING TO GO TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
NOW IN THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN, WE DO HAVE CONTACT NUMBERS OF THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
AND, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY IN THIS CASE IT WOULD BE THE IMMEDIATE, UH, PROPERTY MANAGER.
AND, UH, WE CAN ALWAYS PROVIDE THAT TO NEIGHBORS IF, IF THEY WANT TO HAVE THAT PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
UM, THAT PROPERTY MANAGERS SHOULD PROBABLY BE CONTACTED BY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND IN AN EMERGENCY IN OUR PARTICULAR CASE, IF IT WAS HAPPENING ON THE WEEKEND.
AND WE COME IN MONDAY AND WE HERE, WE GOT, WE HAVE A CALL OR SOMETHING FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
WE WILL CERTAINLY DO AN INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY AND CONTACT THE PROPERTY MANAGER OURSELF AND DO A REVIEW OF THE COMPLAINT.
UM, WITH THESE USES, I CAN HONESTLY SAY WE NEVER HAD ANYBODY CALL REGARDING PROBLEMS WITH THE PROPERTY, UH, OR PROBLEMS WITH THEIR TENANTS.
MANY OF THESE PROPERTIES, PEOPLE WERE PAYING A GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY.
UM, IN THE FOUR PER NIGHT, THERE'S SOMEWHAT VETTED, MAYBE NOT SUPER THOROUGHLY.
I MEAN, THERE'S NOT AN FBI, UH, UH, BACKGROUND CHECK OR ANYTHING, BUT THEY ARE VETTED TO SOME EXTENT.
SO, UH, IT'S IT'S OF THE, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS BENEFIT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, GOOD SHORT-TERM TOURISTS, RENT TENANTS.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS, HAS O LIKES TO MENTION THAT A LONG-TERM TENANT CAN BE A LOT MORE PROBLEMS THAN A SHORT-TERM TENANT, A SHORT-TERM TENANT.
YOU MAY DEAL WITH FOR A WEEKEND, A LONG-TERM TENANT.
IT COULD BE A YEAR AND YOU CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, ISSUES WITH THAT, EVEN TRYING TO GET THEM OUT OF YOUR HOME IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
UM, MR. BERKHEIMER SAID, HE'S GOING TO BE GOING FOR TWO YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S GOING TO BE DOING THIS AFTER TWO YEARS.
THAT'S THE ONE THING I, I DIDN'T QUITE GET, YOU KNOW, IF HE WAS GOING TO CONTINUE THAT, BUT IN ANY CASE, IF THERE WAS A CONTINUAL PROBLEM, A PATTERN OF NON-COMPLIANCE, THEN WE CAN REQUEST THE RELOCATION THROUGH THE BOARD OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
SO THERE ARE WAYS TO ADDRESS IT THERE.
AND THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS ARE JUST THAT THEY'RE UNDER CONDITIONS AND IF THEY BREAK THOSE CONDITIONS, THEN IT'S GONE, THEY CAN'T DO IT ANY LONGER.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE ANIMALS, I THINK DOING THE LEASH THING, UM, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO DO THAT.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ARE WE READY FOR A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVED AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST OF COORDINATE BURKHEIMER, POUR SHORT-TERM TOURIST SORENTO WITH THE CONDITION SAYS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.
THE SECOND ROW COLUMN IS A TRACKING MR. FOX, MR. MABE, MADAM CHAIR, I MRS. OATS, AND WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK ON YOUR TRIP.
[I.7. Conditional Use Permit 2021-10-03, Michael and Leslie Hofbauer for a Short-Term Tourist Rental Located at 223 Chapel View Drive and Identified on Tax Map 21N, as Lot 4 – Matt Wendling]
USE PERMIT 2021 DASH 10, EXCUSE ME, DASHA THREE, MICHAEL AND LESLIE BAUER FOR A SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL LOCATED AT 2 23 CHAPEL VIEW DRIVE AND IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 21 IN AS LOT FOR[01:30:01]
MR. WINDMILL.UH, YES, THE APPLICANTS WOULD LIKE TO RENT THEIR HOME DURING CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR, WHILE THEY'RE TRAVELING AND AWAY FROM HOME.
UM, THEY HAVE STATED THAT THIS HOME IS VERY CONDUCIVE IN THEIR OPINION TO THIS USE, UH, IT'S ON A PRIVATE ROAD.
IT HAS, UM, VERY NICE VIEWS OF THEIR PAWN, THE MOUNTAINS IN THE NEW CATHEDRAL THAT CHRISTIAN COLLEGE IS, UH, BUILT.
UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS PRINCIPLE USES AS A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AND AHEAD, BUT IT HAS WOODLANDS A CREEK AND UPON, AND SOME PASTURELAND, UM, THE APPLICANT PLANS TO MANAGE THE PROPERTY HIMSELF SINCE HE DOES HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE WITH RENTAL PROPERTIES, BUT HE DOES INTEND TO HAVE A HANDYMAN TO CONTACT IN CASE OF EMERGENCIES WHILE HE'S OUT OF TOWN.
UH, THE PROPERTY DOES MEET THE SETBACK.
UH, THAT'S REQUIRED IS 590 FEET FROM ANY ADJACENT PROPERTY.
UM, DURING A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL, WE DID HAVE AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, MR. RIORDAN, WHO HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT POND IN THE LIVE, HIS LIABILITY.
UH, THE POND IS SHARED BY THE APPLICANT, MR. HOFFPAUIR AND THE NEIGHBOR, UH, MR. HOFFBAUER LOOKED INTO HIS LIABILITY WITH HIS INSURANCE COMPANY AND HE FOUND OUT HE'S COVERED FOR $2 MILLION FOR LIABILITY.
AND THE INSURANCE COMPANY SAID THAT SHOULD BE FINE.
UH, AND HE RECOMMENDED IF HIS, IF HIS NEIGHBOR WANTED TO COVER FOR THAT AMOUNT.
I THINK HE MENTIONED HIS NEIGHBOR WAS COVERED FOR ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF.
SO, UM, THAT SATISFIED HIS NEIGHBOR.
UM, THEY HAVE WIFE VEST AND PRESERVERS THAT THEY HAVE FOR THE, UH, UH, LOW KAYAKS AND CANOES.
AND HE HE'S WILLING TO PUT SOMETHING IN A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN JUST TO BASICALLY STAY, YOU KNOW, UM, CHILDREN'S SHOULD BE SUPERVISED WHILE, UM, SWIMMING OR KAYAKING AT THE POND.
UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE SAME CONDITIONS AS THE PREVIOUS, UH, APPLICATION WITH, UH, IN, AND I WILL MENTION THAT, UH, THOSE CONDITIONS ON YOUR INITIAL PAPERWORK SUBMITTED WERE INCORRECT.
MY APOLOGIES, UH, I GUESS I CUT AND PASTE IT FROM ANOTHER ONE, BUT SO CONDITION NUMBER TWO SHOULD STAY.
UH, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS SHALL NOT EXCEED EIGHT IN DETER, AS DETERMINED, ACCORDING TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, CONDITIONAL OPERATIONAL PERMIT FOR A FOUR BEDROOM DWELLING.
UH, I CAN READ OFF THE OTHERS IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT, UH, I'VE MENTIONED THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND MR. HOFFBAUER IS HERE THIS EVENING.
WHAT'D YOU LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? OKAY.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, UH, IS THIS SOUND AND A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION THAT IS IN A, CAN WE DRESS THAT? NO, THERE'S NOT AN ASSOCIATION.
MR. HOFFBAUER SHARES THIS PRIVATE ROAD WITH, I THINK, THREE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEY SHARE THE MAINTENANCE OF IT.
NO HOMEOWNERS, IT'S VERY, VERY LOW, UH, IMPACT ON THE ROAD, JUST THERE THEY SHARE THIS ROAD.
UM, IT'S, IT COMES KIND OF THROUGH AN AREA THAT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF HIGHER DENSITY DWELLINGS ACROSS FROM CHRISTIAN COLLEGE.
BUT ONCE YOU GET BEYOND THAT, IT'S VERY, VERY QUIET, YOU KNOW, AND EVERY, ALL THE HOUSES ARE WELL APART FROM ONE ANOTHER.
MRS. ROCKY, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP? NO.
WHO HAD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS SECOND CALL THIRD CALL.
THIS BEAT PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR THIS ONE? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OF MICHAEL AND LESLIE HOFFPAUIR FOR A SHORT TERM TORTS RENTAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.
SECOND WE'LL CALL MR. SHIRAKI.
UM, CONDITIONAL, WELL, THIS ONE'S A ZONING.
[I.8. Z2021-10-01, Lorne Cooper – Ordinance to Amend and Re-Ordain Warren County Code Sections 180-8 (Definitions) and 180-22 (Residential – 1 (R-1) District) Regarding the Definition of and Allowance for Gunsmithing Services in the Residential One (R-1) Zoning District and to Add and Ordain Section 180-47.1 of the Warren County Code to Add Supplementary Regulations for Gunsmithing Services – Joe Petty]
10 DASH OH ONE LAUREN COOPER ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND REORDER DANE WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTIONS 180 DASH EIGHT DEFINITIONS AND 180 DASH 22 RESIDENTIAL ONE R ONE DISTRICT REGARDING THE DEFINITION OF AN ALLOWANCE FOR GUNSMITHING SERVICES AND THE RESIDENTIAL ONE R ONE[01:35:01]
ZONING DISTRICT.AND TO ADD AN ORDAIN SECTION 180 DASH 47, 1 OF THE WARREN COUNTY CODE TO ADD SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS FOR GUNSMITHING SERVICES.
SO THE WARREN COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE CURRENTLY DOES ALLOW GUNSMITHS SERVICES WITH A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING IN THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT.
HOWEVER, THE ZONING ORDINANCE DOES NOT DEFINE WHAT THAT IS AND IT DOES NOT HAVE SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS.
SO MR. COOPER ON THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED THIS APPLICATION FOR TEXT AMENDMENT TO BOTH ALLOW THIS USE IN A RESIDENTIAL ONE ZONING DISTRICT, BUT ALSO PROVIDE A TRUE DEFINITION OF WHAT GUNSMITHING SERVICES ARE AND SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS FOR SAID USE.
UM, SO IN THIS I'LL FOREGO READING ALL OF THE TEXTS.
I DID WORK WITH MR. COOPER ON THIS, GIVEN IT WAS HIS TEXT AMENDMENT, BUT ALSO VERY MUCH MIRRORED.
A LOT OF WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR CODE FOR WHAT'S CONSIDERED A HOME OCCUPATION.
UM, GIVEN THIS WAS DEFINED AS A CUP USE WITHIN THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT, WE FOUND THAT IT WAS TRULY NOT DEFINED AS A HOME OCCUPATION.
AND GIVEN THAT PEOPLE WANT TO, MAY WANT TO USE AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, UM, INSTEAD OF DOING THIS TYPE OF USE WITHIN THEIR HOME, THAT WOULD ALSO PRECLUDE IT FROM BEING A HOME OCCUPATION OR HOME ENTERPRISE.
UM, MR. COOPER WOULD BE USING HIS ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IF THIS WERE APPROVED.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE NEXT ITEM, BUT IT TALKS ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, GUNSMITHS SERVICES, SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS, WHETHER IT'S IN AN AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT OR RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
WE WERE VERY SPECIFIC IF IT'S IN A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING WITHIN OUR ONE, SOME OF THOSE ACTIVITIES THAT TAKE PLACE.
AND ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT DID COME UP IS OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAY COME WITH THIS USE IS SHOOTING OF THOSE FIREARMS. WE ARE SPECIFIC TO STATE THAT ANY LOCATION LOW ON WITHIN CHAPTER 1 77 IN THE CODE, IT DOES PROHIBIT, UM, SHOOTING A FIREARMS IN CERTAIN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS ALREADY.
SO WHETHER THAT'S PERSONAL OR WITH THIS USE, SO THAT WOULD BE PROHIBITED.
AND ALSO WE HAVE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT IF IT'S WITHIN AN HOA WITH THAT, WE WOULD REQUEST, UM, DOCUMENTATION FROM THEM STATING THAT.
SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
AND AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE BY CUP, STILL AN AG AND IN THE RESIDENTIAL ONES, ANY DISTRICT IT'S NOT BY WRITING, BUT IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, MR. COOPER WAS THE APPLICANT OF THIS TEXT AMENDMENT.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM AS WELL REGARDING THIS, UM, I'M SURE HE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THIS AS WELL.
SO THERE WILL BE NO SHOOTING RANGE, NO SHOOTING RANGE.
NOW IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE PROHIBITED, BUT WE DO HAVE GUNSMITHS SERVICES ALREADY.
SO UPS IN THE COUNTY, AND SOME OF THOSE DO HAVE SHOOTING RANGES, BUT THEY'RE ON AGRICULTURALLY ZONED DISTRICTS THAT CONDITIONS MONITOR THOSE.
THEY HAVE ADEQUATE BUFFERS AND EVERYTHING FOR THAT USE, BUT AGAIN, THOSE ARE ON AGRICULTURAL PROPERTY WITH, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN PROBABLY HALF AN ACRE.
SO, AND THEN WE DO HAVE ONE THAT ACTUALLY HAS LIKE A CERTIFIED BARREL THAT HE ACTUALLY TESTIFIERS IN AS WELL.
UM, MRS. SHAHRAKI DID HE SIGN UP FOR THIS? NO, MA'AM OKAY.
MR. COOPER, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? OKAY.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS SECOND CALL? I KINDA FELT LIKE YOU WEREN'T, SINCE MOST OF PEOPLE, YOUR STAFF, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD HEARING, NONE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? MADAM CHAIR, FINDING THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, AND GENERAL WELFARE AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICE.
I MOVED AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT ROLL CALL MS.
MR. FOX, MR. MABE, MADAM CHAIR, I MRS. OATES, I AM GOING TO PASS THIS CONDITIONAL
[I.9. Conditional Use Permit 2021-10-05, Lorne Cooper for Gunsmithing Services in Conjunction with a Single-Family Residential Dwelling Unit Located at 49 Wild Cherry Way and Identified on Tax Map 24A, Section 2, Block 7, as Lot 306 – Joe Petty]
USE PERMIT 2021 DASH 10 DASH ZERO FIVE.LORNE COOPER FOR GUNSMITHING SERVICES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT LOCATED AT 49 WILD CHERRY WAY AND IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 24 8 SECTION TWO, BLOCK SEVEN AS LOT 3 0 6.
SO THIS IS THE FOLLOW-UP OBVIOUSLY ON THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT WAS JUST APPROVED.
AND MR. COOPER IS APPLYING FOR A CUP FOR GUNSMITHING SERVICES IN A RESIDENTIAL ONE ZONING DISTRICT.
HIS HOME IS LOCATED WITHIN THE BLUE MOUNTAIN SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS, DOES HAVE AN HOA AND IN
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THE NORTH RIVER, THAT IS NOT NORTH HURST, SOUTH OR SHENANDOAH, UM, MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT AND, UH, THE APPROVED GUNSMITHING SERVICES AS NOW DEFINED AS A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE OR ACTIVITY OR PROFESSION WHERE GUNSMITH PERFORMANCE, REPAIRS, RENOVATION, SAFETY INSPECTIONS, MODIFICATIONS, ALTERATIONS FOR SPECIAL USES AND APPRAISALS OF FIREARMS. AND THE SALE OF FIREARMS IS PERMITTED WITH PROPER LOCAL STATE AND FEDERAL LICENSING AND REGULATIONS.AND IT GUNSMITHS SERVICES NOT DEEMED AS HOME OCCUPATION OR HOME ENTERPRISE.
AND AS STATED, THERE ARE SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS FOR THIS USE NOW, AND WITH THE CUP, THERE ARE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
UM, WE HAVE RECEIVED NOTIFICATION FROM THE POA THAT THEY ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE APPLICATION AS LONG AS THERE IS NO DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUSINESS, BUT AS STATED, BLUE MOUNTAIN SUBDIVISION IS ONE OF THOSE SUBDIVISIONS LISTED.
THAT'S PROHIBITED TO DISCHARGE FIREARMS BY A RESIDENT OR COMMERCIAL USE.
UM, AND WE ALSO RECEIVED ANOTHER EMAIL FROM THE NEIGHBOR WHO ALSO SUPPORTED IT, WHO WAS ALSO PART OF THE HOA, UM, AS PART OF THE CONDITIONS AND SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS.
IT WOULD BE BY APPOINTMENT ONLY.
UM, MR. COOPER WOULD BE USING HIS ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
THAT'S ALREADY IN EXISTENCE TO DO THE OPERATION AND THAT HE WILL NOT BE DISCHARGED.
ANY FIREARMS CUSTOMER SHALL BE PERMITTED ONLY 10:00 AM TO 6:00 PM, MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY TO ALLEVIATE ANY ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.
AND THERE IS OFF STREET PARKING PROVIDED.
THERE IS A NATURAL VEGETATION BUFFER BETWEEN HIM AND HIS NEIGHBOR AND THIS ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
AND WHILE THE ACTIVITY IS DONE IN DOORS, WE JUST FELT THAT THAT WAS NECESSARY TO KEEP THAT MAINTAINED BECAUSE THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, UM, WITH THE APPOINTMENT ONLY.
AND AGAIN, I'LL JUST REITERATE TO, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS, OBVIOUSLY WHEN IT COMES TO FIREARMS, THERE ARE STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET.
HE WOULD HAVE TO GET A BUSINESS LICENSE CERTIFICATE OF ZONING AND THEN APPROVAL FOR HIS FFL.
AND WE WOULD AGAIN, WORK WITH HIM AND ALL OTHER AGENCIES AS WE HAPPENED TO PASS.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM AS IT PERTAINS TO THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
AND AGAIN, MR. COOPER IS HERE AS WELL.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? YES, SIR.
I'M LAUREN COOPER, 49 WILD CHERRY WAY.
I JUST WANT TO OFFER MY CONDOLENCES AND YOUR LOSS AND I'D LIKE TO PUBLICLY THANK MR. PETTY FOR HIS DILIGENCE AND PROFESSIONALISM AND HELPING ME THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
I HAD NO IDEA IT WAS LIKE THIS AT ALL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COOPER AT THIS TIME.
PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN AS ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR THIS ONE, MRS. ROCKING.
NO MA'AM WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE SECOND? CALL THIRD CALL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
I MOVED AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR MORE IN COOPER FOR GUNSMITHING SERVICES, WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.
SECOND REAL CALM AS THE SHIRAKI MRS. OATES, MADAM CHAIR, MR. MAINE, MR. FOX MOTION PASSES.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND WORDS ABOUT OUR STAFF, WHERE WE THINK HE DOES A NICE JOB.
THIS WAS PRETTY COOL TOO, AND IT'S NICE TO HEAR COMPLIMENTS.
[I.10. Conditional Use Permit 2021-10-06, Michael Blevins for a Short-Term Tourist Rental Located at 267 Trillium Trail Road and Identified on Tax Map 24B, Section 3, Block 13, as Lot 481 – Matt Wendling]
AT NUMBER 10, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2021 DASH 10 DASH OH SIX, MICHAEL BLEVINS FOR A SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL LOCATED AT 2 67 TRILLIUM TRAIL ROAD AND IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 24 B SECTION THREE 13 AS LOT 4 81.UH, THE APPLICANT MR. BLEVINS RECENTLY PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY WITH THE INTENT TO USE IT PART-TIME AS A SECOND HOME.
UH, BUT PRIMARILY TO LEASE IT AS A SHORT TERM BASIS, HE STATES THAT HE HAS RETAINED A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY, WHICH A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY APPARENTLY HAS A GOOD REPUTATION.
HE ALSO MENTIONED IS THAT THOUGH THE DWELLING IS ON FOUR ACRES OF WOODED AREA.
IT'S IN A SECLUDED LOCATION ON THE PROPERTY, AND HE PLANS TO, UH, ADEQUATELY, UH, REVIEW AND VET THE GUESTS SO THAT NO LARGE AND LOUD PARTIES TAKE PLACE.
UM, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN BLUE MOUNTAIN POA, UH, IN THE SUBDIVISION AND THEY SUB SUPPORT SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTALS IN THE SUBDIVISION.
AS LONG AS THEY COMPLY WITH THE WARREN COUNTY CODE, SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS AND CONDITIONS OF THE PERMIT, UH, IT DOES MEET THE A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACK.
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239 FEET FROM ANY ADJACENT DWELLING.UM, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE STANDARD CONDITIONS, UH, CONDITION NUMBER TWO IS THAT THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS SHALL NOT EXCEED SIX AS DETERMINED, ACCORDING TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, OPERATIONAL PERMIT FOR THE THREE BEDROOM DWELLING.
AND WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED, UH, NUMBER FIVE AND NUMBER SIX, WHICH WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO.
SO WHEN THESE, WHICH, UH, PROHIBITS THE DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS AND HUNTING ON PROPERTY BY GUESTS AND THE USE OF ALL-TERRAIN VEHICLES BY GUESTS, FROM THE PROPERTY AND WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION SHALL BE PROHIBITED.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED JASON PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED.
I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS HERE TO SEE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME, SIR? OKAY.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UM, MR. BLEVINS AT THIS TIME, MRS. ROCKY'S ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE? NO.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS SECOND CALL THIRD AND FINAL CALL PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED.
IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVED AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST A MICHAEL BLEVINS FOR SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL WITH THE CONDITION SAYS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.
SECOND ROLL HOLE, MRS. SHIRAKI.
MR. FOX, MR. MANE, MADAM CHAIR.
PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE NOW DONE AND WE'RE AT THE POINT OF ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS? NOBODY WOULD SAY AT THIS POINT, IF THEY DID.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT MOTION TO ADJOURN? SECOND.
EVERYONE HAVE A SAFE TRIP HOME.