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          WE WILL MOVE ON. 
          YEP. 
          THERE WE ARE TO OUR WORK SESSION 
          [A. Electronic Packet Presentation – Emily Ciarrocchi]
AND THE FIRST ON THE WORK SESSION AND WORK AT IT WITH THE ELECTRONIC PACKAGE, IF YOU, I DON'T KNOW THE DISTANCE, I'LL TAKE IT AWAY A LOT MORE EDUCATION. 
          UM, I HAD A MEETING WITH THEM SCHEDULED, BUT I WOKE UP WITH A SCRATCHY THROAT. 
          I DIDN'T WANT TO GO WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. 
          THIS IS NERVE WRECKING. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S DIFFERENT FROM THERE TO HERE. 
          IT REALLY IS. 
          MY GOSH. 
          IT'S A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE. 
          OKAY. 
          MY NET IS AN INTIMIDATION THING. 
          UM, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THIS PRESENTATION. 
          UH, AS DR. 
          DALY MENTIONED DURING HIS REPORT, I'VE BEEN WITH THE COUNTY FOR FIVE YEARS. 
          AND FOR ALL FIVE OF THOSE YEARS, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO SWITCH OVER TO ELECTRONIC PACKETS. 
          AND THIS IS THE FARTHEST I'VE GOTTEN. 
          SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO GO OVER WAS JUST THE CURRENT AGENDA AND PACKET CREATION PROCESS. 
          SO THE VERY FIRST THING THAT HAPPENS IS DEPARTMENT HEADS OR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS OR OTHER KEY STAFF MEMBERS THAT WANT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA PROVIDE EITHER AN EMAIL COPY, OR THEY PHYSICALLY HAND ME A PAPER COPY OF EACH SPECIFIC ITEM. 
          AND EVEN IF IT IS ELECTRONICALLY EMAILED TO ME, I STILL HAVE TO PRINT IT OUT. 
          SO THEN I CAN MAKE COPIES OF IT. 
          THE AGENDA IS THEN COMPILED AND CREATED BY THE DEPUTY CLERK, WHICH IS THEN FORWARDED TO THE CHAIR VIA EMAIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL. 
          AND ONCE THAT IS DONE, THERE ARE 13 PHYSICAL COPIES THAT ARE MADE OF EACH AGENDA ITEM TO COMPRISE THE PACKET FIVE, IF FOR, FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER, FOR US, FOR STAFF, INCLUDING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, FINANCE DIRECTOR, AND SENIOR ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY TWO ARE FOR THE PRESS NORTHERN BRITTANY, VIRGINIA DAILY, AND THE ROYAL EXAMINER. 
          ONE IS FOR THE PUBLIC THAT WE KEEP FOR PUBLIC REVIEW THROUGHOUT THE MEETING PROCESS. 
          AND ONE THAT I KEEP ON THE RECORD, ACCORDING TO THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, UM, RETENTION SCHEDULE THROUGH THE LIBRARY OF VIRGINIA FOR THREE YEARS. 
          AND THEN I RECYCLE IT AFTER I CREATE THE 13 COPIES, EACH INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEM IS SCANNED. 
          I COMPILE IT INTO ONE LARGE PDF, AND THEN I BOOKMARK EACH INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEM. 
          I OCR IT. 
          SO IT TRANSLATES THE IMAGES THAT WERE THE PDF INTO READABLE TEXT. 
          AND THEN I UPLOAD IT TO ADOBE LINCOLN TO THE WEBSITE SO THAT CITIZENS AND PRESS ALIKE CAN REVIEW EACH PACKET INDIVIDUALLY. 
          SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE BACK COUNTER IN OUR ADMINISTRATION OFFICE LOOKS LIKE FOR AGENDA PACKET DAY, WHICH IS ON THURSDAYS. 
          EVERYBODY KNOWS THURSDAY SURGE AND A PACK OF DAYS. 
          SO I TEND TO MONOPOLIZE THE COPIER DURING THOSE DAYS, BUT THIS IS JUST FOR THE JANUARY 4TH MEETING. 
          THIS IS JUST FOR TODAY. 
          AND THE TOP IS THE LITTLE ACCORDION THAT I HAVE, AND YOU'LL SEE ALL 13 COPIES OF THE AGENDA PACKETS. 
          AND THIS IS WHEN IT'S COMPLETE. 
          AND THE BOTTOM IMAGE IS ALL OF THE TAB DIVIDERS THAT I USE, WHICH IS WHY AT THE END OF EVERY MEETING, THE BINDERS ARE RETURNED TO ME SO THAT I CAN REUSE THE TAB DIVIDERS FOR THE NEXT MEETINGS. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A DIFFERENT ANGLE SHOWING HOW MUCH PAPER THERE REALLY IS, AS WELL AS ALL OF THE BINDERS THAT I REUSE FOR ALL THE STAFF MEMBERS, THE PUBLIC AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEMBERS AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, THE REASON THAT I'M HERE IS THAT THERE ARE SOME CURRENT DRAWBACKS TO THE PROCESS AS IT WERE. 
          THE BIGGEST DRAWBACK THAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED IS SIMPLY TIME. 
          IT TAKES ME ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE HOURS PER PACKET, AND THIS CAN SPAN BETWEEN TWO TO THREE DAYS. 
          UM, MOST OF THE TIME THE AGENDA DEADLINE IS ONE O'CLOCK ON THE TUESDAY PRIOR TO THE MEETING, I MIGHT GET EVERYTHING BY THEN. 
          I MIGHT NOT GET EVERYTHING BY THEN. 
          UM, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN, IF THE AGENDA PACKET IS GOING TO BE LARGE, I START PRE COPYING ITEMS ON A WEDNESDAY, AND THEN I DO THE PACKETS ON THURSDAY. 
          AND SOME THINGS MAY NOT BE GIVEN TO ME UNTIL A FRIDAY. 
          SO IT'S FRIDAY AFTERNOON THAT I CAN GET THE PACKETS TO THE BOARD OF MEMBERS AND THE PRESS AFTER THE MEETING, 12 COPIES ARE RECYCLED. 
          SO BASICALLY ALL THE COPIES THAT I MAKE GO STRAIGHT INTO THE RECYCLING BIN, EXCEPT FOR ONE, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT I KEEP ON THE RECORD FOR THREE YEARS IN 2019 ALONE, I USED OVER 35,500 PIECES OF PAPER. 
          AND THAT'S JUST PAPER THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ALL THE DOUBLE-SIDED THAT I MAKE, BECAUSE WHENEVER I MAKE COPIES, I TRY TO MAKE AS MANY DOUBLE-SIDED COPIES AS POSSIBLE TO SAVE ON PAPER. 
          I USED OVER 60,000 PAGES WORTH OF ACTUAL INK, AND THAT'S BOTH BLACK AND WHITE AND COLOR. 
          AND THERE'S A SPREADSHEET THAT I INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET THAT I LISTED ALL OF THE BOARD MEETINGS THAT WE HAD IN 2019 AND ALL THE ASSOCIATED BLACK AND WHITE AND COLOR COPIES FOR EACH JUST, UM, AS A LITTLE ASIDE, THAT MEANS THERE. 
          I USED IN 2019, I USED SEVEN BOXES WORTH OF PAPER OR 71 REAMS OF PAPER, 71 REAMS. SO 71 OF THE LITTLE THINGS WITH THE YES, MA'AM MS. 
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YOU EQUATE THAT TO DOLLARS. 
          DID YOU GIVE, DO YOU HAVE DOLLAR AMOUNTS? LIKE HOW MUCH DOES THAT? I DISTING THIS? I DID IN 2019. 
          LET ME GRAB MY LAPTOP REAL QUICK. 
          SO THE WARS SO MUCH, CAUSE YOU ONLY TALKED TO HIM SEVEN BOXES OF PAPER, BUT YOU'RE TALKING WELL, I WOULD HOPE THAT'S FACTORED IN. 
          SO FORTUNATELY, BECAUSE WE'RE A GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY, WE GO THROUGH LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS OF PAPERS. 
          SO WE TEND TO DO BULK PAPER ORDERS ONCE EVERY MAT DUTY ONCE EVERY QUARTER, ABOUT ONCE EVERY QUARTER AND THAT'S FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, THEY SUBMIT THE PAPER REQUEST TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND THEY ORDER IT. 
          SO OF THAT, FORTUNATELY IT WAS ONLY ABOUT $208 FOR ALL SEVEN BOXES OF PAPER THAT I EQUATED IT TO. 
          BUT THE REAL KICKER BACK IN 2019 WAS INK, ESPECIALLY SINCE AT THE TIME WE WEREN'T WITH CENTRIC BUSINESS SYSTEMS. WE WERE ACTUALLY THROUGH A DIFFERENT COMPANY FOR OUR COPIER AND THEY HAD NO ALLOWANCE FOR COLOR COPIES AT ALL. 
          SO EVERY COLOR COPY THAT WE MADE, WE ACTUALLY WERE PAYING FOR, BUT FORTUNATELY WITH CENTRIC BUSINESS SYSTEMS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COLOR ALLOWANCE. 
          SO WE DON'T, WE TEND TO NOT GO OVER THAT ALLOWANCE, BUT THE REAL COST WAS INKED TO US AT THE LOW END. 
          IT WAS ABOUT $3,000 FOR 2019 AND INK. 
          BUT AT THE HIGH END, IT WAS ABOUT 5100 5200 IN INK COSTS. 
          DID THAT ANSWER AND NOT ADD AS AN AND YOU DIDN'T FACTOR IN THE LABOR? NO, NO. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT WAS STRICT PHYSICAL PAPER AND INK COSTS. 
          UM, SO JUST TO KIND OF GO BACK FOR THE, TO THE FOUR TO FIVE HOURS ON A PACKET, UM, THERE ARE CERTAIN ITEMS FROM DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS FINANCE, LIKE REPORTS THAT CANNOT BE RUN UNTIL THURSDAY AFTERNOON OR EVEN LATER IS SOMETIMES. 
          BUT SO I DON'T EVEN GET THOSE TO MAKE THE COPIES UNTIL MIDWAY THROUGH MY PACKET DAY. 
          UM, THERE ARE OTHER REPORTS FROM AGENCIES THAT AREN'T AVAILABLE UNTIL FRIDAY. 
          FOR INSTANCE, MR. ED CARTER'S REPORT IT, WASN'T INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKETS BECAUSE WE WERE CLOSED ON FRIDAYS AND I WANTED TO GET IT OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO YOU. 
          HE GAVE IT TO ME ON FRIDAY MORNING AND THEN I EMAILED IT OUT WHEN IT CAME TO ME ON MONDAY, WHEN WE GOT BACK INTO THE OFFICE. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, AS YOU SAW YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY MAY HAVE SOME CHANGES TO CERTAIN ITEMS. AND I DID EMAIL THOSE OUT TO YOU YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, BUT STILL IT'S, IT'S RESTRICTIVE IN THE TIME THAT I CAN CREATE THE PACKET TO THE TIME THAT YOU GUYS GET TO REVIEW IT, WHICH IS WHY I WOULD REALLY ENJOY GOING TO ELECTRONIC PACKET. 
          SO JUST AS AN ASIDE, IN 2018, WE HAD 24 REGULAR BOARD MEETINGS AND 10 WORK SESSIONS IN 2019, WE HAD 27 REGULAR BOARD MEETINGS AND NINE WORK SESSIONS IN 2020, THERE WERE 28 REGULAR MEETINGS, BUT THE NUMBER OF WORK SESSIONS DOUBLED TO 18 AND IN 2021, WE HAD 27 REGULAR MEETINGS AND A 15 WORK SESSIONS. 
          BUT NOTE THAT THE WORK SESSION PORTION OF THIS CHART DOES NOT INCLUDE THE BUDGET WORK SESSIONS OF WHICH THERE ARE ABOUT FIVE OR SIX EVERY YEAR FOR EVERY BUDGET CYCLE. 
          AND THOSE ALSO HAVE INDIVIDUAL PACKETS PREPARED AND GIVEN TO YOU BY THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO NOW I JUST WANT TO GO BRIEFLY OVER SOME ADVANTAGES TO ELECTRONIC PACKETS IN YOUR PACKETS. 
          CURRENTLY, THERE IS A PROPOSAL THAT WAS DONE BY I COMPASS, WHICH IS A DILIGENT BRAND. 
          IT WAS DONE IN DECEMBER OF 2019, WHICH IS THE LAST TIME THAT I WAS HOPING THE BOARD WOULD SERIOUSLY CONSIDER IT AN ELECTRONIC PACKET CONCEPT. 
          UM, AND SO MOST OF WHAT THE ADVANTAGES THAT I'M GOING TO BE A NUMERATOR HERE IN MY PRESENTATION ARE GOING TO BE THROUGH THAT PROPOSAL FROM ICAMPUS. 
          THERE ARE OTHER SOLUTIONS BY OTHER COMPANIES THAT ARE VERY IN COSTS, BUT THAT'S JUST THE LOWEST ONE THAT I COULD FIND I COMPASS IS UTILIZED BY SEVERAL LOCALITIES AROUND THE STATE. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF THE ONE THAT I WANTED TO GO WITH JUST FOR THIS PRESENTATION PURPOSES. 
          SO ONE THING THAT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IS JUST INCREASED PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT RIGHT NOW. 
          THERE'S NO WAY TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THE AGENDA IS DONE ASIDE FROM ME, SENDING OUT AN EMAIL AND SAYING, HEY, THE AGENDA IS DONE, BUT THIS WAY, CITIZENS PRESS ANYONE WHO WANTS TO, WOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO OUR WEBSITE, PUT IN THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS. 
          AND AS SOON AS THE PACKET IS PUBLISHED ONTO THE WEBSITE, AN EMAIL BLAST WOULD GO OUT AND THEY WOULD BE NOTIFIED THAT THE PACKET IS PUBLISHED AND READY FOR VIEWING. 
          AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CLICK ON THE LINK IN THE EMAIL ITSELF AND GO STRAIGHT THERE AND BE THE PACKET. 
          ADDITIONALLY, I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THAT ONCE I COMPILE THE PDF, I OCR AT TO TRANSLATE EVERYTHING INTO A READABLE TEXT, IT WOULD ALREADY BE DONE. 
          LIKE THERE WOULDN'T BE NO R O CRA NECESSARY. 
          THERE WOULD BE NO, UM, TRANSLATING AN IMAGE INTO TEXT. 
          IT WOULD JUST ALREADY BE A TEXT WHICH WOULD INCREASE OUR ADA COMPLIANCE FOR THE FUTURE. 
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ADDITIONALLY, IT'S CROSS COMPATIBLE WITH BOTH THE CALENDAR ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          THAT'S CURRENTLY EXISTING AND OUR SWAGGERED VIDEO INDEX SYSTEM THAT IS EXISTING AS WELL. 
          SO WHEN YOU GO TO THE WEBSITE AND YOU SAY, WHEN'S THE NEXT BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING, AND YOU CLICK ON THE BOARD MEETING, IT WILL LINK YOU ALSO DIRECTLY TO THE AGENDA PACKET FOR THAT SPECIFIC MEETING FOR THE SWAG VIDEO INDEXING SYSTEM. 
          IT WILL ENABLE THEM TO HAVE A SIDE-BY-SIDE VIEW OF THE MEETING THAT IS GOING ON AT THE TIME, AS WELL AS EACH INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEM IN THE PACKET. 
          RIGHT NOW YOU CAN CLICK THROUGH TO THE DIFFERENT TIMESTAMPS WHEN THE BOARD MEMBERS DISCUSS CERTAIN ITEMS, BUT THERE'S ONLY THAT TWO PAGE OVERVIEW AGENDA ALONG THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, BUT THIS WOULD HAVE A CROSS COMPATIBILITY WITH THAT. 
          SO IT WOULD BRING UP THE ACTUAL ITEM AND NOT JUST THE OVERVIEW OF THE ENTIRE AGENDA. 
          SO THE CITY OF WINCHESTER ACTUALLY HAS ICAMPUS CURRENTLY. 
          AND WHAT THEY DID, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO DO IS THEY PROVIDED HISTORICAL MINUTES AND AGENDAS TO I COMPASS, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO UPLOAD THEM, WHICH CREATED A SEARCHABLE INDEX. 
          SO RIGHT NOW, IF INDIVIDUALS WANT TO LOOK FOR SOMETHING THAT ARE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE HAPPENED IN 2018, THEY HAVE TO GO TO OUR WEBSITE, GO TO THE 2018 MINUTES PAGE AND INDIVIDUALLY CLICK THROUGH ALL OF THE ITEMS AND SEARCH EACH PDF INDIVIDUALLY. 
          BUT WITH A SEARCHABLE INDEX, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, I WONDER WHEN THIS KEYWORD HAPPENED AND THEY WILL BE ABLE TO KEYWORD SEARCH AND IT WOULD PULL UP ANY AND ALL INSTANCES OF THAT KEYWORD OR KEYWORD PHRASE IN ANY OF THE MINUTES. 
          SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO HUNT AND PACK THROUGH INDIVIDUAL SETS OF MINUTES OR AGENDAS. 
          THEY WOULD SIMPLY BE ABLE TO SEARCH AND THAT'S WHEN IT WOULD COME UP. 
          AND THEN EVEN IF PEOPLE STILL WANT A PHYSICAL COPY, THERE WOULD BE AN OPTION AVAILABLE THAT WOULD CREATE A PHYSICAL COPY WITH AUTOMATIC PAGE NUMBERS ADDED TO EVERY PAGE SO THAT YOU WOULDN'T ACCIDENTALLY SHUFFLE YOUR PAPERS OR ONE AGENDA ITEM IS OUT OF PLACE WITH ANOTHER ONE. 
          AND IT WOULD JUST AUTOMATICALLY POPULATE ALL OF THE PAGE NUMBERS. 
          SO YOU'D BE ABLE TO FOLLOW ALONG, EVEN IF YOU STILL WANTED THAT PHYSICAL COPY AS FOR STAFF TIME. 
          IT'S, THAT'S JUST THE BIG, THAT'S. 
          THE BIGGEST ADVANTAGE OF AN ELECTRONIC PACKET IS SIMPLY TIME. 
          UM, STAFF MEMBERS WOULDN'T NEED TO, YOU KNOW, FIND THAT ONE WORD DOCUMENT THAT I THINK I DID THAT ONE TIME AND I WANT TO COPY AND PASTE IT OVER. 
          NO EVERYTHING WOULD ALREADY BE IN THE ELECTRONIC PACKET CONCEPT. 
          THEY'D BE ABLE TO CREATE THEIR AGENDA ITEMS STRAIGHT FROM THE APPLICATION, AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SEND IT ON TO THE DEPUTY CLERK FOR INCLUSION IN THE AGENDA. 
          BUT ADDITIONALLY, THE ITEM CREATION IS AVAILABLE TO AS MANY STAFF MEMBERS THAT NEED AS NEEDED. 
          SO THIS ISN'T AN ADOBE LICENSE. 
          FOR INSTANCE, YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE A USER ADDED IN ORDER TO CREATE AN AGENDA ITEM. 
          THERE'S NO ADDITION THERE'S NO, UM, THERE'S NO, THANK-YOU, THAT WAS THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR. 
          THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL LICENSES THAT ARE PURCHASED IT'S ONCE YOU HAVE IT, IT'S UNLIMITED USER CREATION. 
          SO FOR INSTANCE, UH, MR. PETTY, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR HAS MADE MENTION THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS ALSO INTERESTED IN SWITCHING OVER TO ELECTRONIC PACKETS. 
          SO HE, MS. PHILLIPS, MR. , THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR OWN USER SIGN IN AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CREATE PACKETS AS WELL FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          SIMILARLY, MR. ROBERTSON AND MR. HENDERSON WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, THEY'D BE ABLE TO GO IN AND CREATE THEIR BUDGET PACKETS AS WELL. 
          SO IT'S UNLIMITED AS MANY STAFF AS NEEDED USERS WITHOUT THE NEED TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL LICENSES, WHICH IS NICE. 
          AND SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATIONS, THERE'S A LASER FISH INTEGRATION WITH THIS PROPOSAL, WHICH MEANS THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO TO THE LASER FEATURE APPLICATION, TRY AND FIND THAT ONE TIME THAT THEY DID THAT ONE THING, EXPORT IT INTO A PDF, THEN PRINT IT OUT OR EMAIL IT TO ME. 
          LASER FEATURES ALREADY IN THE APPLICATION FOR THE ELECTRONIC PACKET, THEY'D BE ABLE TO SEARCH AND GRAB IT STRAIGHT FROM THERE AND PULL IT DIRECTLY INTO THE AGENDA. 
          NO MIDDLEMAN, NO INTERMEDIARY STEPS. 
          AND WITH I COMPASS, WHICH IS UNDER THE DILIGENT UMBRELLA, THERE IS 24 7 SUPPORT AND UNLIMITED TRAINING AVAILABLE FOR STAFF MEMBERS AND FOR BOARD MEMBERS ALIKE. 
          SO ONE OF THE BIGGEST ADVANTAGES THAT I SEE FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS IS ACTION TRACKING, YOU KNOW, ITEMS COME TO THE DEPUTY CLERK, WHICH ARE THEN REVIEWED COMPILED INTO THE AGENDA, BUT WE COULD BE ABLE TO CREATE A RULE, WHICH SAYS THE AGENDA CANNOT BE FINALIZED UNTIL IT IS APPROVED BY X, Y, AND Z. 
          SO THE DEPUTY CLERK MAY BE ABLE TO COMPILE THE AGENDA AND CREATE IT, BUT IT MUST BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE CHAIR AND MUST BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY PRIOR TO PUBLICATION. 
          SO IT WOULD KIND OF REDUCE THE NEED FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO REVIEW IT AND SAY, HEY, I HAVE, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR SIX OF THESE CHANGES THE DAY BEFORE THE MEETINGS A SURPRISE, IT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY SAY IT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY PRIOR TO PUBLICATION. 
          IT WOULD ALSO ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR PHYSICAL PACKETS, WHICH WOULD IN TURN, ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR THE BINDERS AND THE TAB DIVIDERS AND ALL OF THE ITEMS TO BE RETURNED TO THE DEPUTY CLERK FOR RECYCLING. 
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AND WHAT'S NICE IS THAT THIS SPECIFIC PROPOSAL IS CROSS COMPATIBLE. 
          YOU CAN USE IT ON AN IOS BASED SYSTEM. 
          YOU CAN USE IT ON AN ANDROID BASED SYSTEM IT'S AVAILABLE ON GOOGLE PLAY, BUT IT'S ALSO AVAILABLE ON A BROWSER. 
          SO YOU COULD USE IT ON YOUR PHONE TABLET, PC LAPTOP, IT'S CROSS COMPATIBLE WITH PRETTY MUCH EVERY SORT OF TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAVE TODAY. 
          AND WHAT'S ESPECIALLY NICE. 
          IS THAT CURRENTLY MY SOLUTION FOR CLOSED SESSION ITEMS? LIKE FOR INSTANCE, TODAY, WE HAD THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE SOCIAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD APPOINTMENTS. 
          I SENT OUT THE EMAIL TO EVERYBODY SAYING, HEY, HERE'S THE LINK TO THE ELECTRONIC PACKET, BUT YOU NOTICED IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION FOR THE CLOSED SESSION BECAUSE IT'S CLOSED SESSION. 
          WHAT I NORMALLY DO IS I EMAIL A SEPARATE PDF TO OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY SAYING, HEY, HERE ARE THE CLOSED SESSION ITEMS BECAUSE HE DOESN'T GET A PHYSICAL COPY OF THE PACKET. 
          I SEND EVERYTHING TO HIM. 
          HE PRINTS IT OUT HIMSELF. 
          AND THEN HE BRINGS IT IN WITH THIS CURRENT SOLUTION. 
          THERE WOULD BE A PUBLIC VIEW AND A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS VIEW FOR THE PACKETS. 
          SO WHATEVER WE FLAG, AS YOU KNOW, EXECUTIVE SESSION INFORMATION WOULD ONLY BE VIEWABLE BY MEMBERS OF THE BOARD SUPERVISORS AND THE STAFF THAT WE CHOOSE TO BE ABLE TO VIEW IT. 
          AND IT WOULD NOT BE VIEWABLE BY THE PUBLIC, THE PRESS, ET CETERA. 
          THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION. 
          I'M SURE SOMEBODY HAS IT. 
          IT WOULD, YEAH, IT'S BASICALLY JUST PERMISSION RIGHTS. 
          UM, BUT IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE SELECTED AND TOGGLED BY THE DEPUTY CLERK WHEN THEY COMPILE THE AGENDA, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN ITEMS CAN BE VIEWED OR CANNOT BE VIEWED, BUT EVERYTHING ON THE BACKEND IS FAIRLY SECURE. 
          LIKE IT'S, IT'S SIMILAR TO OUR WEBSITE. 
          SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE JOOMLA AS A HOST FOR OUR WEBSITE. 
          THERE ARE LOTS OF ARTICLES AND ITEMS AND, YOU KNOW, NAMES OF EMPLOYEES THAT NO LONGER WORK HERE THAT ARE IN THE BACKEND OF THE WEBSITE. 
          IF YOU TRY AND HUNT AROUND FOR THEM, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO FIND THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PUBLISHED. 
          BUT IF YOU GO TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF IT, EVERYTHING'S THERE SIMILARLY FOR THE ELECTRONIC PACKET SOLUTION, ADMINISTRATIVELY, EVERYTHING WOULD BE THERE. 
          BUT WHAT YOU GET TO SEE ON THE WEBSITE OR ON THE ELECTRONIC PACKET IS WHAT THE ADMINISTRATOR WANTS YOU TO SEE AND BASED ON PAST KNOWLEDGE WITH, SO I'M A MEMBER OF THE VIRGINIA MUNICIPAL CLERKS ASSOCIATION, AND A LOT OF THEM USE ELECTRONIC PACKETS. 
          AND BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE WITH DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, THEY'VE NEVER HAD ANY ISSUE TO MY KNOWLEDGE WITH, UM, WE'VE GOT AN ISSUE WITH HAVING 150. 
          THAT IS TRUE. 
          ALTHOUGH I WILL MENTION, UH, MR. CHESHIRE RECENTLY TURNED OFF ALL CAPABILITY OF, UM, SIGNING INTO OUR SYSTEM FROM OUTSIDE COUNTRIES, JUST AS AN ASIDE, HE SENT THAT EMAIL TO MR. JONES. 
          AND I SAID, WHO WITH OUR, IT PEOPLE BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE, AT BEING THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR THIS. 
          YES, YES. 
          UM, SO MR. JONES IS ACTUALLY GOING TO TALK ABOUT A MEDIA SERVICES SPECIALIST POSITION IN HIS UPCOMING IT BUDGET. 
          I BELIEVE THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INTEGRATION OF THAT AS WELL AS, UM, OTHER ITEMS IN IT AND MAINTAINING THE PERMISSIONS. 
          YES. 
          I TH I THINK THAT YOU CAN ENACT TWO FACTOR AUTHENTICATION SO THAT IF SOMEBODY TRIES TO SIGN IN WITH JUST A LOGIN, YOU CAN ADD ANOTHER FACTOR, WHICH MEANS THEY WOULD HAVE TO ENTER FROM A PHONE OR FROM A KNOWN DEVICE, BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT, MY CONCERN IS, AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, I COULD FIGURE THIS OUT. 
          THERE ARE CERTAIN PATTERNS IN PEOPLE'S EMAILS AND LOG-INS, THAT IS EASILY TRACEABLE. 
          I CAN FIGURE IT OUT. 
          I'M A RECRUITER. 
          I COULD FIGURE OUT EVERY COMPANY'S SYNTAX IN THEIR EMAIL AND BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO EMAIL SOMEBODY IF I WANTED TO RECRUIT THEM. 
          WHAT I'M AFRAID OF IS THAT YOU HAVE THAT SAME CAPACITY AND COMPATIBILITY HERE WHERE YOU JUST NEED AN EMAIL OR A LOGIN PATTERN, AND THEN YOU CAN PLAY AROUND AND FIGURE OUT SOMEBODY'S PASSWORD, UM, ESPECIALLY ON CLOSED SESSION ITEMS THAT GIVES ME HEARTBURN. 
          SO MAYBE MR. JONES CAN GIVE US A TWO FACTOR AUTHENTICATION, WHICH WILL IDENTIFY THE PC OR THE PHONE THAT YOU'RE LOGGING IN FROM. 
          AM I RIGHT? I, SO, YEAH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'VE DONE THAT STUFF MYSELF, TRYING TO FIND PEOPLE. 
          AND IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROPOSAL, I WILL DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO DILIGENT OR ANY OTHER COMPANY THAT YOU ALL MAY BE INTERESTED IN CONTACTING AND SEEING IF THEY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL LAYERS OF SECURITY, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ADVANCES IN TECHNOLOGY AND ESPECIALLY WITH CYBERSECURITY THREATS THAT HAVE BEEN MORE PREVALENT IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, BUT YES. 
          SO WOULD YOU HAVE A PUBLICATION DEADLINE FOR THIS SO THAT, UH, UH, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE ELECTRONIC, WOULD WE GET IT THE NIGHT BEFORE, OR ARE YOU GOING TO GET TO BED OR SO, UM, DR. 
          DALEY TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, WHEN MR. MAVE ASKED HIM IF THERE'S ANY POSSIBLE WAY THAT WE CAN GET THE AGENDA PACKETS OUT 
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EARLIER, AS WELL AS DURING THE BOARD POLICY AND PROCEDURES DOCUMENT, I AM REQUIRED TO GIVE OUT PER BOARD POLICY, THE AGENDA AT LEAST 48 HOURS PRIOR TO THE TIME OF THE MEETING, WHICH MEANS I ALMOST ALWAYS GET IT OUT ON THAT FRIDAY BEFORE THE MEETING. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'D BE THE AGENDA. 
          HOW ABOUT THE MATERIAL THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THE, UH, SO MY, THE DEADLINE THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS 1:00 PM ON TUESDAY, THERE ARE MORE TIMES THAN NONE, ABOUT 90 TO 95% OF THE TIME WHERE INDIVIDUALS OR DEPARTMENTS WILL GET ME ITEMS WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, SOMETIMES FRIDAY. 
          SO THE, THE ONE O'CLOCK DEADLINE, AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE TO ADHERE TO IT. 
          AND AS MUCH AS IT HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS IS HARDLY IF EVER ADHERED TO, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT MORE FROM, HMM. 
          WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE THAT MORE FROM JUST TELL THEM SAD FOR YOUR BAD LUCK? YOU DIDN'T GET IT BY ONE O'CLOCK YOU'RE GOING NEXT MONTH. 
          WELL, A COUPLE OF POINTS, ONE, I THINK WHEN SOME OF THESE ITEMS ARE DONE EXAMPLE BEING THE PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS, I THINK THEY COULD BE SENT TO YOU IN ADVANCE, AND IT'S STILL GOING TO BE THE EXACT SAME LITTLE ELECTRONIC PACKET WITH ANY OF THESE ITEMS, BUT THEN IT WOULD JUST BE SENT TO YOU IN ADVANCE. 
          AND THEN IT COULD ALSO BE ADDED BACK IN WHEN YOU GET THE TOTAL AGENDA, BUT THAT WAY YOUR ATTORNEY AND YOURSELVES COULD BE LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE THINGS IN AHEAD OF TIME. 
          AND WHILE I'VE GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THIS, WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU WANT TO CHECK OUT AND RESEARCH IT, UM, SHE SAID, WE TRY TO GET EVERYTHING IN BY TUESDAY. 
          MOST THINGS ARE WEDNESDAY. 
          SHERIFF USUALLY IS HERE BY SUNDAY. 
          UH, AND IT DEPENDS UPON THE NATURE OF THE ITEM, WHETHER WE CAN JUST SAY, WELL, IT CAN WAIT. 
          UM, IF THE, UH, IF YOU'RE MEETING EVERY OTHER WEEK, NORMALLY MOST OF THEM CAN WAIT. 
          BUT IF YOU ARE DELAYED IN A MEETING LIKE LAST MONTH, YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO NECESSARILY HAVE EVERYTHING WAIT UNTIL JANUARY, IF YOU HADN'T HAD IT IN DECEMBER. 
          SO THE, SO THE, THE POINT THAT, WHERE THE ISSUE THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR WAS THAT, UH, I LIKED THE FACT THAT YOU GET THESE PUBLISHED, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST THE DAY BEFORE TO, SO THE NIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING, I'VE GOT A CHANCE TO TAKE IT HOME AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT. 
          WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS IF WE DON'T, IF WE SWITCH TO THIS AND WE DON'T SET SOME TIME AND STICK TO SOME TYPE OF A DEADLINE, WE COULD GET, WE COULD BE GETTING MATERIAL ADDED TO THE PACKET 10 MINUTES BEFORE THE MEETING. 
          AND THAT HAPPENS. 
          AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN. 
          I'M SAYING, IF WE DO SWITCH TO THIS, WE NEED TO PUT HARD CONTROLS. 
          WE HAVE NO HARD DEADLINES AND WE STILL HAVE A 48 HOUR DEADLINE. 
          SO IT'S STILL, EVERYTHING'S STILL HAS TO BE OUT ON A FRIDAY BEFORE, UH, SO THAT YOU CAN ENJOY YOUR WEEKEND. 
          BUT, UM, THERE ARE OCCASIONS AS MR. COTE, MRS. COLOURS WAS NOTING THERE, THERE HAS BEEN TIMES WHEN WE'LL BRING SOMETHING IN AND ASK YOU TO AMEND THE AGENDA, TO CONSIDER IT AT THE MEETING. 
          BUT THOSE ARE USUALLY SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS COMING THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS ITEM IS GOING TO COME. 
          IT'S JUST NOT ON HERE YET. 
          AND WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR SOME PIECE OF INFORMATION AND THAT'S NOT NORMAL. 
          THAT'S UNUSUAL. 
          I JUST WANT HER TO AVOID THE, THE, THE, THE CHANCE THAT, THAT THE, UH, THE THOUGHT PROCESS WOULD KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, SLOWLY CREEP IN THAT, OH, WHETHER IT'S ALL ELECTRONIC, THE MEETINGS THAT JUST SEND IT IN 10 MINUTES BEFORE THE MEETING, AND WE'LL BE GOOD, STILL 48 HOURS. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          AND RIGHT. 
          AND I WILL, AND THIS, THIS MIGHT JUST BE ME SAYING SOMETHING AS WELL, BUT MANY OF THE DEPARTMENT HAS A CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS KNOW ME BY NOW. 
          I JUST, I DO NOT. 
          I DO NOT THREATEN PEOPLE. 
          I, I, UM, ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET THINGS TO ME ON TIME. 
          VERY STERNLY, VERY STERNLY, INCORRECT, MY EXPERIENCE IN IMPLEMENTING ANY NEW SYSTEM IN A BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT, THE, IT IS REALLY A TOOL TO MAKE THE OPERATION RUN MORE EFFICIENT. 
          SO AS THE PROCESS, THE DEADLINES WILL NOT CHANGE. 
          IT'S JUST GOING TO MAKE THINGS RUN MORE EFFICIENT. 
          THE DEADLINE WILL STILL BE, YOU KNOW, 1:00 PM ON THE TUESDAY PRIOR FOR AGENDA ITEMS TO BE GIVEN TO ME, IT WILL STILL BE NO LATER THAN THE END OF THE BUSINESS DAY ON FRIDAY TO GET THE POLL, THE FULL 
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PACKETS PUBLISHED AND OUT. 
          SO THOSE DEADLINES WON'T CHANGE. 
          AND HOPEFULLY WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ACTION TRACKING, THERE WILL ALSO BE NO MORE NEED FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR SIX LAST MINUTE CHANGES TO CERTAIN ITEMS THE DAY BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING. 
          SO, BUT IF THEY HAVEN'T TURNED IN THEIR STUFF BY ONE O'CLOCK TUESDAY, I'M SORRY, GUYS, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO GO SOMEPLACE ELSE. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL THEM THAT? CAUSE WHEN I'VE TOLD THEM THAT, I THINK HE HAS MADE IT PLAIN, HE WANTS HIS WEEKENDS TO HIMSELF, GET YOUR STUFF IN BY ONE O'CLOCK TUESDAY. 
          IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE POKING FUN AT THAT, BUT THE REALITY IS I, I WANTED AS LONG AS I CAN GET IT. 
          SO IF I THERE'S A LOT THAT I'VE GOT TO LEARN AND I'M GOING TO BE LEARNING FOR A LONG TIME. 
          AND IF I DON'T GET IT TILL FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND THE OFFICE IS CLOSED WITH THE PEOPLE AND I NEED TO TALK TO HIM SUNDAY, SATURDAY, AND SUNDAY, I GOT MONDAY, THAT'S IT. 
          AND WHAT IF I'VE GOT AN APPOINTMENT THAT I HAVE TO GO TO? YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS STRIVE TO GET IT OUT ON THURSDAY. 
          AND YOU DO A WONDERFUL JOB IN DOING THAT AS BEST AS YOU CAN UNDER THE SITUATION. 
          I GET THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK MRS. OATES AND I, UM, KIND OF ROCK THE BOAT ON JANUARY, THE FIRST MEETING OF JANUARY, OUR FIRST MEETING EVER WHEN WE WOULDN'T VOTE FOR THE FINANCIAL REPORT, BECAUSE WE HIT IT AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS AND WE WEREN'T VOTING ON ANYTHING. 
          WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND LITTLE, DID WE KNOW WHAT A UPROAR THAT WAS GOING TO CAUSE, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT. 
          AND MAYBE THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVEN'T MADE ENOUGH OF AN OF IT THAT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO US FOR, TO HAVE IT THURSDAY. 
          SO WE DO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY ON FRIDAY TO CALL UP A DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THE OTHER THING THAT WE DID AND I WAS BAD FOR IT WAS TO ASK THE QUESTION HERE, WHICH MADE STAFF FEEL LIKE IT WAS AN ATTACK, WHICH IT WASN'T, IT WAS A QUESTION BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY BY GETTING IT FRIDAY TO ASK THE QUESTION. 
          SO I DIDN'T WANT TO VOTE ON IT HERE. 
          HERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK AND PEOPLE FELT PUT ON THE SPOT. 
          SO I, YOU KNOW, I GUESS FOR ANYBODY SUBMITTING TO YOU, WE NEED TO MAKE IT PLAIN. 
          HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO US TO GET THAT THURSDAY, WHICH MEANS THEY HAVE TO GET IT TO YOU ABOUT TUESDAY. 
          YES. 
          BECAUSE WEDNESDAY IS THE DAY THAT I NORMALLY COMPILE EVERYTHING AND THEN FORWARD IT TO YOU FOR FINAL REVIEW AND APPROVAL. 
          AND THEN I START PRE COPYING THINGS THEN, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN ITEMS THAT JUST CAN'T GET TO ME UNTIL THURSDAY AFTERNOON. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST TO MAKE A COMMENT ON WHAT YOU SAID A MOMENT AGO, MA'AM YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ACCOUNTS PAYABLES. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT FINANCE IS WORKING ON IS WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO PAY OUR BILLS EVERY WEEK. 
          IT SHOULDN'T TAKE US 45 DAYS. 
          AND SO ONCE THE BILL, THE EXPENSE HAS BEEN INCURRED, YOU CAN QUESTION IT, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO PAY IT BECAUSE IF IT'S UNEXPENSIVE, IT'S ALREADY BEEN INCURRED AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PURCHASING AND PROCUREMENT AND WE STILL ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY IT AND ASK, YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS AND FIND OUT MORE ABOUT IT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T BUY WHATEVER THAT WAS NEXT TIME. 
          BUT REALLY WE NEED TO BE APPROVING THE ACCOUNTS, PAYABLES MONTHLY, KNOWING THAT SOME OF THOSE ARE AFTER THE FACT, RATHER THAN SITTING AND HOLDING THE BILLS FOR 45 DAYS TO PAY. 
          YES. 
          THAT, THAT ISN'T AS SOMETHING THAT BOTHERS ME BECAUSE YOU KNOW, PAYING A LATE FEE IS LIKE THROWING MONEY IN THE TRASH CAN AND SETTING IT ON FIRE TO ME. 
          AND I DON'T LIKE THAT. 
          UM, SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT I HAVE A QUESTION HERE IS IF THINGS ARE GOING THROUGH OUR PURCHASING AGENT, IF SHE HAS QUESTIONS, DO WE NEED TO MAKE A CRITERIA OF, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING JUST DOESN'T GET BOUGHT. 
          AND ONCE IT'S PAID FOR WE'RE LIKE, YEAH, WE CAN SAY, DON'T DO THAT AGAIN. 
          BUT IT WAS DONE ONE TIME. 
          IS THERE A PROCESS OR DOES, IS MRS. SCOTT ABLE TO SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, JUSTIFY THIS FOR ME, SHE IS WORKING WITH JASON'S OFFICE ON A NEW PROCUREMENT POLICY. 
          AND WHEN YOU, THE BOARD REVIEWS IT AND ADOPTS A NEW PROCUREMENT POLICY, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE THAT ALL OF THESE ITEMS REVIEWED IN ADVANCE RATHER THAN AFTER THE FACT. 
          SO WE'LL BE DOING THAT PART OF THE PROCUREMENT AHEAD OF TIME. 
          SO RATHER THAN HAVE TO SEE THEM AFTER, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TELEPHONE BILLS, ELECTRIC BILLS, WATER, SEWER, THAT THOSE ARE REOCCURRING 
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COSTS THAT ARE JUST PART OF EVERYBODY'S HOUSEHOLD. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S THE OTHER PURCHASING THINGS THAT COME UP, THAT THEY'RE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ON WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY GIVING. 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. 
          I DON'T LIKE PASSING THOSE THROUGH AS EVERYBODY KNOWS. 
          CAUSE I GO LINE BY LINE AND QUESTION EVERYTHING. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT TO ME IS MORE OF A SYSTEM THAT I CAN LIVE WITH THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. 
          IT IS THAT'S ALWAYS BOTHERED ME. 
          SO I'M GLAD WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING AT A POSITIVE AND, AND LET US KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO HELP YOU GET YOUR STUFF IN A ROW TOO. 
          WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T PUSH THE ENVELOPE A LITTLE BIT IF WE DON'T NEED THEM. 
          IF WE DON'T KNOW THE ENVELOPE NEEDS TO BE PUSHED, IF YOU DON'T TELL WHAT, IF YOU DON'T TELL US WHERE I HAVE A PROBLEM, WE DON'T KNOW. 
          AND SOME OF IT COMES FROM BOARD MEMBERS, HEY, CAN WE PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR TUESDAY? YEAH. 
          AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, I'M, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CAUSE YOU, YOU GRACIOUSLY ALWAYS SEND OUT, DO I HAVE ANYTHING TO PUT ON THE AGENDA? AND I'M LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, SO IF, UM, AND I'M SURE MAYBE YOU GUYS FEEL THE SAME WAY. 
          SO MAYBE WHEN YOU FIRST GET WHAT YOU'VE GOT, SEND IT OUT TO US AND SAY, OKAY, HERE IT IS. 
          I KNOW I'VE GOT FINAL REPROVAL, BUT THESE GUYS STILL GET TO ADD STUFF. 
          UM, AND THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER. 
          CAUSE I'M ALWAYS, LIKE, I ALWAYS ASK YOU COULD, WHEN YOU SEND IT, I'M LIKE, WELL, THERE WAS THE ONE THERE, SEND IT TO ME. 
          BUT IF WE COULD SEND YOU THE PERIOD, I'M GOING TO CALL THE DRAFT AGENDA AT THE TIME, THEN YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT AND SEND BACK, SAY, HEY, CAN WE ADD THIS ITEM OR THAT ITEM? OR WHEN ARE WE GOING TO PICK UP THIS THIRD ITEM HERE? RIGHT. 
          AND MANY OF THE ITEMS THAT I WILL ALREADY HAVE ON THE AGENDA ARE THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE A LOT OF THEIR ITEMS ARE EITHER AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE FOR PUBLIC HEARING OR SPECIFIC PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          AND THEY WOULD HAVE ALREADY COME THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION CHANNEL. 
          THEY ARE NORMALLY REALLY GOOD ABOUT GETTING TO ME GETTING THINGS TO ME, YOU KNOW, WEEKS IN ADVANCE AND ON MY COMPUTER RIGHT NOW, I HAVE THE AGENDA FOR THE 11TH, THE 18TH, AND EVEN THE FEBRUARY PUBLIC HEARINGS, BECAUSE I HAVE THE ITEMS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          SO I DO HAVE THOSE DRAFT AGENDAS, BUT THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY ITEMS ON THERE AT THAT POINT. 
          OKAY. 
          DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? I'M SORRY. 
          YOU CAN CONTINUE. 
          OH, BUT SPEAKING OF FINANCE, LET'S TALK FINANCIALS. 
          YEAH. 
          OH, SO SORRY. 
          I'M SO SORRY. 
          BEFORE I SAW THAT YOU HAD, UM, UH, CUSTOMER SUPPORT AND UNLIMITED TRAINING, IS THAT TRAINING CLASSROOM TRAINING OR IS IT ON MY ASSUMPTION IS IT IS GUIDED ONLINE TRAINING. 
          SO FOR INSTANCE, THERE WILL BE A TRAINER, BUT IT WILL NOT BE PHYSICALLY IN A CLASSROOM GOING THROUGH THINGS. 
          WHAT I'M HOPING IS THAT THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WE ENDED UP PURCHASING THIS PACKET FROM, THEY WILL PROVIDE TRAIN THE TRAINER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT WE CAN GET A MEMBER OF OUR, IT STAFF TO BECOME TRAINERS FOR THIS SO THAT THEY CAN IN TURN, TRAIN STAFF, BOARD MEMBERS IN A MORE HANDS-ON ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE LEARN BETTER THAT WAY. 
          SO. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN ANOTHER THING I'D LIKE TO, I'M SORRY. 
          NO, THAT'S ME I'M KNOW I'M OWNING MY, UM, TECHNOLOGY CHALLENGED. 
          I KNOW YOU WENT THROUGH THE, UM, UH, WHAT IT COSTS AND WHAT IT TAKES FOR YOU TO PUT A PACKAGE TOGETHER FOR MAYBE DO OTHER DEPARTMENTS RIGHT NOW, KIND OF GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT YOU'RE DOING THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH. 
          I KNOW THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT GOES THROUGH A SIMILAR PROCESS BECAUSE THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY OTHER OR COMMISSION THAT HAS PACKETS SIMILAR TO OURS. 
          UM, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT DOES IT TO A LESSER DEGREE FOR THE BUDGET WORK SESSIONS. 
          SO THEY NEED TO GET ALL OF THE BUDGETARY INFORMATION AND SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION FROM THE OTHER DEPARTMENT HAS A CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS BEFORE THEY CAN MAKE THEIR PACKETS. 
          BUT WITH TH WITH THIS PROPOSED SOLUTION, BOTH THE PLANNING STAFF AND FINANCE STAFF WOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THIS AS WELL FOR THEIR RESPECTIVE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. 
          SO THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS AN ANNUAL FEE OF $10,000, AND THAT IS ALL INCLUSIVE. 
          THAT INCLUDES THE LASER FEATURE INTEGRATION. 
          THAT INCLUDES THE TRAINING, THE IMPLEMENTATION, IT'S ALL INCLUSIVE. 
          THERE ARE VARIOUS OTHER OPTIONAL FEES OR SERVICES THAT ARE IN THE PROPOSAL THAT ARE IN THAT'S IN YOUR PACKETS. 
          THEY'RE NOT REALLY NEEDED. 
          UH, SOME OF THEM ARE, UM, ACTION TRACKING. 
          LIKE WE CAN RECORD THE HISTORICAL VOTES THAT BOARD MEMBERS HAS MADE. 
          THEY CAN DO AUTO-POPULATING MINUTES. 
          THERE ARE CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AND FEATURES THAT I'M NOT NECESSARILY SURE WE NEED, OR YOU NEED TO BE UTILIZED AT OUR LEVEL, BUT YOU KNOW, IT WILL, IT LISTS ALL THE ASSOCIATED ITEMS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE $10,000 ANNUAL FEE. 
          AND ALSO IN YOUR PACKET IS THE LATEST INVOICE 
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FROM THE CITY OF WINCHESTER WHO UTILIZE THIS SYSTEM. 
          AND THEY ALSO HAVE A $10,000 ANNUAL COSTS. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH THIS PROPOSAL WAS MADE IN 2019, THE $10,000 ANNUAL FEE STILL HOLDS TRUE TODAY BECAUSE THAT'S STILL WHAT THE CITY OF WINCHESTER IS PAYING. 
          AND ALSO IN THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU HAVE IN THE PACKET, THE SLATED ONE-TIME FEE FOR ALL OF THE HISTORICAL MINUTE AND PACKETS UPLOADING IN THE PROPOSAL IS $2,500. 
          HOWEVER, SPEAKING WITH THE CLERK OVER THE CITY OF WINCHESTER, THEY WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION TO DILIGENT FOR THEM TO UPLOAD FOR ONLY A ONE-TIME FEE OF 1000. 
          SO I'M HOPING THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OF NEGOTIATION ROOM THERE, BUT IF THE BOARD DECIDES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, I WOULD BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO A REPRESENTATIVE FROM ICAMPUS OR THE DILIGENT BRAND AND TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WOULD BE PRICING WISE IN THE FUTURE. 
          WHAT'S THE $2,000, THE $2,500, NO, $2,000 ON IT. 
          AND THE DILIGENT INVOICE, OH, THAT IS A MEETING MANAGER. 
          SO THE CITY OF WINCHESTER ALSO UTILIZES THIS SOFTWARE FOR ALL OF THEIR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. 
          SO IT'S JUST ANOTHER PIECE OF THE PUZZLE IF THEY WANTED TO USE IT AND THEY CHOSE TO USE IT AND THEY DID, I DON'T THINK WE NECESSARILY NEED IT. 
          UM, A LOT OF OUR MEETINGS AND BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE AS NEEDED AND THEY DON'T REALLY GO THROUGH A, A LARGE AGENDA CREATION PROCESS, LIKE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES. 
          SO I WASN'T NECESSARILY SURE WE NEEDED THE BOARD MANAGER SOFTWARE, BUT IF THAT'S A DIRECTION THAT THE BOARD IS WANTING TO GO IN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT AS WELL. 
          SO THERE ARE ADD ONS IF WE WERE DECIDED, YES, WE LOVE IT. 
          AND WE WANT TO PANEL. 
          YES, THERE ARE ALL AT THE CART OPTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S THE SOFTWARE PRICING FOR THE HARDWARE PRICING. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT IS A PENDING CONSULTATION WITH THE DIRECTOR OF TECHNOLOGY. 
          SO I KNOW THAT COUNTY STAFF CURRENTLY HAS LAPTOPS ISSUED TO THEM. 
          I KNOW THAT MR. JONES IS NOT NECESSARILY HAPPY WITH THE LAPTOPS WE CURRENTLY HAVE, BUT IN FUTURE TALKS WITH HIM FOR THE BOARD, DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DECIDE THE BEST SOLUTION. 
          WOULD IT BE A TABLET THAT HAS A DETACHABLE KEYBOARD THAT YOU ALL CAN BOTH UTILIZE A TOUCH SCREEN OR KEYBOARD IF YOU WANTED TO, WOULD IT BE A TWO IN ONE, WHICH IS LITERALLY JUST A LAPTOP THAT OPENS UP AND THEN YOU CAN CONTINUE TO FOLD IT OVER. 
          THAT HAS A HARD KEYBOARD FOR YOU THAT YOU CAN USE A STYLIST FINGER TOUCH OR A KEYBOARD IF YOU WANTED TO, WOULD IT JUST BE A LAPTOP? AND WE GET NEW LAPTOPS FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS AND CERTAIN STAFF THAT WOULD BE UTILIZING THE ELECTRONIC PACKET. 
          THAT'S ALL SOMETHING THAT IS TO BE DETERMINED WITH CONSULTATION WITH MR. JONES, AS WELL AS THE NEEDS OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AND STAFF. 
          DO YOU KNOW IF SO, DO YOU KNOW IF THIS SYSTEM WAS THAT TURNED TO MICHAEL? OH, OKAY. 
          IT IS ON JUST NOT TALKING. 
          UM, DO YOU KNOW IF THE SYSTEM CAN BE, UM, INTEGRATED WITH OUR WEBSITE? YES. 
          SO, AND WHAT I, WHAT I WANT TO DO AFTER I'M DONE WITH MY PRESENTATION IS KIND OF PULL UP TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE CITY OF WINCHESTER IS CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE. 
          UM, IT'S BASICALLY JUST A LINK. 
          SO CURRENTLY WHEN PEOPLE GO TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WEBSITE, THERE IS A LITTLE LINK ON THE CENTER THAT SAYS AGENDAS AND THEY CLICK ON IT. 
          AND IT'S JUST A LIST OF A BUNCH OF LINKS TO A BUNCH OF PDFS. 
          BUT IF WE WENT AHEAD AND WENT FORWARD WITH THIS ELECTRONIC PACKET PROPOSAL, THEY WOULD CLICK IT AND IT WOULD GO TO A BRAND NEW PAGE AND IT WOULD HAVE ALL OF THE MEETINGS AND ALL THE PACKETS AND ALL THE MINUTES JUST RIGHT THERE IN ONE CENTRALIZED LOCATION. 
          AND IT WOULD ALSO BE CROSS COMPATIBLE ALL OF OUR SWAGGER VIDEO INDEXING. 
          SO THE VIDEOS WOULD BE THERE AS WELL. 
          SO YES, IT WOULD BE CROSS COMPATIBLE WITH OUR CURRENT WEBSITE THAT MIGHT HELP WITH THE HARDWARE. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW, IS THIS TO HER, OR IS THIS LIVE ON OUR COMPUTER OR IS THIS WE'RE HAVING TO GO TO A CLOUD OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO A HARD SERVER AND PICK IT OFF, OR ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ONLINE WITH THE SYSTEM? SO THAT WILL DEPEND ON THE HARDWARE OPTION THAT WE GO WITH. 
          IF IT'S GOING TO BE A TABLET OPTION, IT'S GOING TO BE AN APPLICATION THAT YOU CAN JUST DOUBLE-CLICK AND IT WILL BE THERE. 
          IF IT IS A LAPTOP OR A TWO IN ONE, IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE A WEB BASED OPTION. 
          SO YOU MAY NEED TO HAVE A SECURE INTERNET CONNECTION IN ORDER TO VIEW IT. 
          UM, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT CERTAIN, BUT I'M, UH, I'M FAIRLY SURE YOU WOULD AT LEAST NEED AN INTERNET CONNECTION, BUT IT IS EITHER, UM, BROWSER BASED. 
          SO WEB INTERNET BASED, OR APPLICATION-BASED HE EITHER WAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LITTLE LEAST WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE AS A, AS AN INTERNET CONNECTION, I BELIEVE SO. 
          AND THAT YOU CAN HAVE A BPN ON THAT CAN'T DO. 
          YEAH. 
          WHICH IS ANOTHER LEVEL OF SECURITY, WHICH COULD VERY POSSIBLE. 
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SO SOME OF MY FINAL THOUGHTS, UM, I MENTIONED THAT I WAS A MEMBER OF THE VIRGINIA MS. MUNICIPAL CLERKS ASSOCIATION, UH, AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE KIND OF HAD A PRESENTATION FROM CARRIE WHO IS THE CLERK OVER IN THE CITY OF WINCHESTER. 
          AND SHE KIND OF WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CREATING AN AGENDA ITEM AND PUBLISHING A PACKET. 
          AND IN THOSE TALKS, I LEARNED THAT I WAS THE LAST CLERK IN THE REGION THAT DOES A PHYSICAL BOARD PACKETS. 
          UM, EVEN THE SCHOOL BOARD, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE HALL, THEY UTILIZE DIGITAL PACKETS AS WELL. 
          SO THERE'S THIS THROUGH THE VIRGINIA SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION, BUT THEY USE BOARD DOCS, WHICH IS ALSO THE SAME UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA AS I COMPASS IT'S ALL DONE BY DILIGENT. 
          SO IT'S A DILIGENT BRAND PRODUCT. 
          THEY JUST USE IT THROUGH THE VIRGINIA SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION. 
          UM, BUT ANOTHER THOUGHT THAT I HAD WAS WITH THE COUNTY STAFF ALREADY UTILIZING LAPTOPS THAT WOULD ALMOST CUT DOWN ON HARDWARE COSTS BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE PURCHASING NEW HARDWARE. 
          WE WOULD JUST NEED TO INSTALL THE SOFTWARE ON THEIR EXISTING HARDWARE AND CALL IT A DAY. 
          BUT, UM, THAT'S MY PRESENTATION. 
          IF YOU ALL HAD ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, IT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WAITED FIVE YEARS FOR PEOPLE TO SAY THAT THE MORE REAL TIME THAT WE CAN GET THIS INFORMATION TO US IS, IS BETTER FOR OUR DECISION PROCESS. 
          AND I, I'M FINE WITH IT, EXCEPT THAT I'M PERSONALLY NERVOUS ABOUT THE FACT THAT I'D BE UP HERE WITH THE COMPUTER AND WHAT IF I GET A COMPUTER GLITCH AND THERE I AM SITTING, TRYING TO DO A MEETING. 
          SO I PERSONALLY WOULD, WE'D KIND OF BE COMFORTABLE AND WHOEVER MAY IN THE FUTURE DO THIS POSITION OF HAVING THAT PAPER COPY SO THAT I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I CAN CONTINUE TO THE FLOW AND NOT HAVE THAT ISSUE. 
          HE WILL BE THERE ANYTIME YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, IT DOESN'T STOP YOU FROM SILVER PRINTING OUT WHAT YOU WANT. 
          YOU KNOW, IF YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE HARD COPY, THEN YOU CAN STILL PRINT OUT. 
          YES, YOU HAVE AN IT DEPARTMENT NOW. 
          SO WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE YOU GET WHAT YOU NEED. 
          SO YOU HAVE A HARD JOB ON YOUR HANDS GETTING ME COMFORTABLE WITH THIS, BUT I'M WILLING YOU DO. 
          YOU DO WELL. 
          NO PROBLEM. 
          WELL, I LIKE THE IDEA OF INDEXING BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN GO RIGHT TO THE INDEXED ITEM THAT YOU NEED TO ADDRESS RIGHT NOW. 
          SOMETIMES I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS IN THIS DARN BOOK AND I'M SITTING HERE AND THE PRESENTATION'S OVER BY THE TIME I FIND IT. 
          SO WHAT WE, WHAT WE WOULD DO, IF YOU'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THIS AS WE WILL, NUMBER ONE, GO OUT, PUT A LITTLE, A PROPOSAL OUT AND GET SOME DIFFERENT SOFTWARE OPTIONS TO SELECT ONE. 
          SHE LIKES THIS ONE FINE WITH ME, BUT I WANT TO SEE WHAT ELSE SHE MIGHT SEE OUT THERE. 
          SO SHE WOULD LOOK AT THOSE WHILE TODD COULD BRING SOME EXAMPLES OF THE DIFFERENT, UH, HARDWARE THAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, SO THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT THESE AND SEE WHAT YOU MIGHT LIKE THE BEST. 
          AND THEN YOU CAN GO DOWN WHEN YOU'RE HAVING THESE COFFEES WITH YOUR FRIENDLY LOCAL SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER, ASK THEM TO BRING THEIR COMPUTER WITH THEM SO YOU CAN SEE HOW IT WORKS AND SEE WHAT ISSUES THEY HAVE THAT THEY CAN TELL YOU ABOUT. 
          SO COULD WE GO, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          YOU GO. 
          OH, I WAS. 
          SO COULD WE GO THROUGH A MARKET RESEARCH PROCESS WHERE WE CAN HAVE DIFFERENT VENDORS COME IN AND SHOW THEIR DEMO OF THEIR PRODUCT? WELL, THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH. 
          YEAH. 
          NORMALLY THAT WOULD GO AREN'T I, EMILY WOULD PUT OUT WITH ALYSSA AN RFP AND THEY WOULD SEND DIFFERENT PROPOSALS SUCH AS THIS ONE, THIS COMPANY, AND ANY OTHER COMPANY WHO WANTED TO SUBMIT SOMETHING TO THEM AND THEY WOULD REVIEW THOSE AND THEN BRING YOU ONE TO LOOK AT SIMILAR TO THE PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH WITH SWAGGART WHEN YOU BROUGHT UP. 
          YEAH. 
          SO YOU DO AN RFP PROCESS, PERHAPS FOR THE SOFTWARE, FOR THE HARDWARE YOU'RE TALKING MINIMAL. 
          WE JUST PICK THE RIGHT HARDWARE THAT EVERYBODY WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH. 
          I'D BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE AND YOU GUYS CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT AS TO WHAT YOU WANT TO USE, BUT FOR THE SOFTWARE, THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO GO ABOUT PROCUREMENT FOR THAT. 
          BUT I DO THINK IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, UH, LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER OPTIONS ARE OUT THERE, BUT OBVIOUSLY EMILY'S DONE AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB AT LOOKING AT WHAT IS THERE AND MAKING A GOOD SUGGESTION. 
          SO IS, IS THERE AN ANTICIPATED COST PER USER YET? UH, THE ONLY COST PER USER WOULD BE FOR THE HARDWARE THAT I'M AWARE OF. 
          AND WHEN YOU SAY THAT IS, I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MY PERSONAL COMPUTER AT HOME AND THE COMPUTER THAT THE COUNTY I HAVE IS THAT I CAN SCROLL DOWN MY SCREEN BY TOUCHING IT. 
          AND I CAN'T 
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DO THAT WITH, WITH THE, UM, COUNTY BASED ONE, WHICH I'M THINKING WOULD MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT. 
          CAUSE I'M JUST SO DARN USED TO MINE. 
          AND I'M CONSTANTLY HITTING THE COUNTY WHEN THINKING I CAN DO THAT VERSUS SCROLLING. 
          AND THAT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN SETTING HERE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THAT IS THAT ONE OF, WHEN YOU SAY HARDWARE, YOU'RE IN THAT YOU'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THE CURRENT COMPUTERS THAT WE HAVE OR LAPTOPS, IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT? YEAH. 
          SO RIGHT NOW YOU'RE USING TRADITIONAL LAPTOPS. 
          MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD PROBABLY BE THAT YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE AN IPAD OR TABLET OF SOME SORT WITH IT, WITH A DETACHABLE KEYBOARD, IT'D BE SMALLER, EASIER TO CARRY WITH YOU. 
          AND THAT YOU CAN ALSO, IF WE CHOSE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO CHOOSE TO DO. 
          WE COULD GET A CONNECTED THROUGH SOME TYPE OF CELLULAR SERVICE. 
          SO WHEREVER YOU GO, YOU COULD DO THE INTERNET. 
          THERE'S OBVIOUSLY FEES FOR THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANT TO TAKE THAT STEP, BUT THAT'S AN OPTION THAT YOU CAN GET WITH A TABLET. 
          THAT'S MUCH MORE COMPLICATED AGAIN, WITH OUR TRADITIONAL LAPTOP. 
          LIKE YOU HAVE NOW, THERE ARE DRAWBACKS TO A TABLET. 
          OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T HAVE A PHYSICAL KEYBOARD NECESSARILY LIKE YOU DO RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY'RE MUCH SMALLER, EASIER TO PUT IN A BOOK BAG AND MOVE FORWARD WITH, AGAIN, WE'LL LOOK AT ALL THAT HARDWARE WHEN THE TIME COMES AND I'LL TRY TO GIVE YOU GUYS SOME IDEAS. 
          I'LL TRY BRING SOME PHYSICAL HARDWARE AND FOR YOU TO LOOK AT AND PLAY WITH, MAKE YOUR DECISION, AND THEN I'LL GIVE YOU A COST AS TO HOW MUCH THAT WOULD RUN. 
          SO THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT THE SOFTWARE COSTS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE HARDWARE COSTS AS WELL AT THE SAME TIME. 
          ALL AT THE SAME TIME. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD TO START PUTTING THIS OUT AND GET YOU A PROPOSAL AND START LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE, UH, MACHINES, THE HARDWARE, OKAY. 
          YOU'RE FREE TO BROWSE IT, UM, AT YOUR LEISURE ON YOUR OWN TIME. 
          I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME. 
          I'VE TAKEN UP SO MUCH TIME ALREADY. 
          UH, BUT THIS IS THE WEB PORTAL THAT THE CITY OF WINCHESTER UTILIZES FOR THEIR BOARD MANAGER. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE A SEARCH FEATURE. 
          THEY HAVE THE CALENDAR THAT WILL LINK DIRECTLY TO THE AGENDAS. 
          THEY HAVE ALL OF THE HISTORICAL MINUTES AND THE IT'S EVERYTHING IN ONE PLACE. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TRY TO FIND WHERE THE VIDEOS ARE ON THE WEBSITE. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TRY TO FIND WHERE THE CALENDAR IS. 
          ROGER ON THE WEBSITE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO AND TRY AND FIND WHERE THE MINUTES ARE ON THE WEBSITE. 
          EVERYTHING IS IN ONE CENTRALIZED LOCATION, EASILY INDEXED AND SEARCHABLE FOR CITIZEN USE. 
          SO INSTEAD OF OUR CURRENT WEBPAGE, THE WAY IT IS, THIS WOULD BE WARREN COUNTY THAT WOULD COME UP. 
          SO THE WEBSITE WOULD REMAIN THE SAME. 
          THIS WOULD SIMPLY BE A LINK ON THE HOMEPAGE, ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PAGE. 
          THAT WILL TAKE YOU TO AN ALL-IN-ONE. 
          IT WILL TAKE YOU TO THE CALENDAR. 
          IT WILL TAKE YOU TO THE VIDEOS. 
          IT'LL TAKE YOU TO THE AGENDAS. 
          YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO CLICK ON AND REPLACE WHAT CURRENTLY IS THERE. 
          IT WON'T REPLACE THE CURRENT WEBSITE, BUT IT WILL REPLACE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A LINK FOR THE AGENDAS. 
          I HAVE A LINK FOR THE MINUTES. 
          SO WE'LL REPLACE THAT WITH JUST ONE OVER ENCOMPASSING LINK. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          W UM, START TO FINISH IF YOU GOT IT, SIX WEEKS FROM NOW, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE YOU TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING? BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS AND THEN DECIDE ON WHAT'S GOING TO WORK AND GET SOME HARDWARE GOING, AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK REAL HARD TO HAVE THIS BEFORE APRIL. 
          WE ARE, WE ARE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, VANESSA, SO I MEAN, AS, AS MRS. OATES WAS SAYING DURING HER REPORT, YOU CAN TELL THAT THIS IS A PASSION PROJECT OF MINE. 
          I MEAN, I HAVE WANTED TO SWITCH OVER TO ELECTRONIC PACKETS FOR SEVERAL YEARS. 
          SO IN THE WEST CASE SCENARIO, IF WE RECEIVED, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSAL THAT WE WANT, THE HARDWARE PRICING THAT WE WANT WITHIN THE NEXT SIX WEEKS BEFORE APRIL NEXT PACKET, IF POSSIBLE, I CAN SEE YOU WORKING THROUGH THE NIGHT. 
          I MEAN, I WOULD, I WOULD ALSO GET WITH MR. ROBERTSON AND MR. HENDERSON BECAUSE THE WHOLE MARCH AND APRIL SCENARIO IS AROUND THE SAME TIME THAT WE ADVERTISE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE BUDGET. 
          AND WE DO THE BUDGET APPROVAL PROCESS. 
          SO I WOULD BE ABLE TO GET WITH THEM AND TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE OUR DUCKS IN A ROW FOR THAT ANGLE. 
          BUT YEAH, FIRST AGENDA AFTER THE BUDGET'S APPROVED WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO START ACTUALLY LAUNCHING IT AGAIN. 
          IT WOULD, I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF FUMBLING WHILE WE'RE GOING THROUGH 60, $120 MILLION. 
          SO MAY 1ST I BELIEVE IS OUR FIRST MEETING IN MAY COINCIDENTALLY, BUT YEAH. 
          SO MY FIRST, HOPEFULLY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          YEP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ENTERTAINING THIS PROPOSAL AND VERY EXCITED TO GET TO WORK ON IT. 
          SO NO MORE PAPER, NO MORE PAPER THAT I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH ALL RIGHT, 
          [B. Discussion – Rockland Road Railroad Crossing Flyover Bridge – Joe Petty]
MR. PETTY ROCKLIN ROAD, RAILROAD CROSSING, FLYOVER BRIDGE, ALL OF THOSE, YOU GOT THREE MINUTES 
          [00:50:01]
LIKELY TECH TEAM, DR. 
          DAILY. 
          SO I FIRST LIKE TO SAY, I ECHO EVERYTHING AND WE SET UP MAY NOT BE AS ENTHUSIASTIC, BUT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION STANDPOINT, WE'VE ALSO LOOKED INTO THAT AND WOULD SEE A TRUE BENEFIT AND HAVING ELECTRONIC PACKETS, WE ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY DELIVER PLANNING COMMISSION PACKETS AS WELL. 
          SO IT WOULD BE A HUGE HELP TO US TO ADD IN TRAVELING COSTS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, SO I DEFINITELY ECHO EVERYTHING THAT SHE SAID. 
          UM, SO YEAH, I WAS ASKED TODAY TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ON ROCKLAND ROAD, UH, FLY OVER. 
          IT IS A  PROJECT AND JUST A QUICK DEBRIEF. 
          UM, THIS KIND OF GAUGED BACK HAS BEEN DISCUSSED FOR QUITE A WHILE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, RECENTLY CAUGHT SOME TRACTION. 
          THERE'S BEEN A BUILD GRANT FOR THIS PROJECT FUNDED, UH, THROUGH THE PORT AUTHORITY, BUT IT IS A BRIDGE THAT WOULD TAKE VEHICLE TRAFFIC OVER ROCKLIN OR OVER THE ROCKLAND ROAD, UM, NORFOLK SOUTHERN RAILROAD THERE, AND, YOU KNOW, TRANSFERRED SEPARATE THAT TRAFFIC. 
          AND AS YOU CAN SEE, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THIS, UH, PICTURE IN YOUR PACKET. 
          PERFECT. 
          AND SO IT JUST SHOWS THE ONE OVER AND THE REALIGNMENT OF THE ROADS GOING INTO ROCKLAND PARK AND THE CHURCH THERE TO THE NORTH VIRGINIA HILLS. 
          SO, UM, CAN YOU SHOW, UM, WHICH ROAD IS RITZ WITH YOUR PENCIL? JUST SO THEY ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          YEAH. 
          SO ROCKLIN ROAD AND TRAVELING EASTWARD, THERE WE GO THIS WAY FROM EXISTENCE. 
          AND YOU SEE THIS MAP, DOES THAT ALL RELATE TO EXISTING ROCKLIN ROAD HERE? WHERE DOES A BREAK FILL IN LINE? THE EXISTING ROCKLIN PARK ENTRANCE IS RIGHT HERE. 
          WE GET TO THIS BASE NEEDS TO BE RELOCATED. 
          ALSO ON THIS MAP, YOU'LL SEE, AS PART OF THIS DISCUSSION IS THE PROPERTY LINES AND IT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER OF EACH PARCEL. 
          THE, YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE , THERE IS THIS PARCEL HERE, THAT'S ALL. 
          AND THEN THESE ARE PRIVATE PROPERTIES. 
          THERE COULD BE A PROPERTY. 
          SO WITH THIS PROJECT, UM, AGAIN, CURRENTLY THE PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED IN SUMMER OF THIS YEAR, UM, IN CONCEPT AND THEIR MAJOR MILESTONES INDICATE THAT THEY WOULD BE DOING RIGHT AWAY WITH, BY THE SUMMER OF 2022 WITH THE CONSTRUCTION ADVERTISEMENT AND THE SUMMER OF 2023 AND CONSTRUCTION, UH, BEGINNING LATE 2023. 
          UM, SO THIS IS ALL BASED OFF OF THEIR ESTIMATES ON THEIR WEBSITE AND PROJECT PAGE. 
          PART OF THAT, UM, AGAIN, ALSO IN THIS DRAWING, YOU'LL SEE A RED LINE FOR THE PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAY, WITH YOUR CHANGING FROM THAT EXISTING BLUE DASH LINE PART LINE, THERE'LL BE AND ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY THAT IS NEEDED. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS MILESTONE ON THEIR WEBSITE RIGHT OF WAY OF THIS YEAR AND ABOUT AN ACRE AND A HALF OF THAT WOULD BE ON COUNTY LAND. 
          SO BELIEVE THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY ON THAT, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S DISCUSSIONS, HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, UM, PROPOSAL AGAIN, I BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO BE TALKING TO THOSE OTHER PROPERTIES AS WELL. 
          UM, AND SO THIS PROBABLY WHERE I'D LIKE TO TAG TEAM DR. 
          DALEY AND SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ADMINISTRATION'S THINKING SO FAR ON THAT. 
          SO V DOT SAID THAT AT SOME POINT, UNBEKNOWNST, WHEN, BUT YEARS AGO, WHEN THIS WAS FIRST IDENTIFIED AS A PROJECT, IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO DONATE THIS PROPERTY. 
          IT'S ABOUT AN ACRE AND A HALF. 
          THERE WAS NOTHING IN ANY BOARD MINUTES, THERE'S NOTHING IN ANY ADMINISTRATIVE FILE V DOT HAS NOTHING THAT SAYS THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO DONATE IT. 
          AND IN THE V DOT'S WORDS, IT WAS IMPLIED, BUT NOTHING, AGAIN, NOTHING IN WRITING AND NOTHING APPROVED BY THE BOARD. 
          SO THE QUESTION THAT V DOT HAD COME UP WITH IS THAT, WELL, WE NEED CONFIRMATION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DONATE THIS BECAUSE WE WANT TO MOVE THE TROPIC PART PROJECT LONG. 
          AND WE SAID, WELL, WHERE'D THAT COME FROM? UH, MRS. LOGAN HAS LOOKED AT THIS. 
          SHE WAS UNAWARE OF IT BEING DONATED. 
          AND SHE'S GOT HISTORY WITH THESE PROJECTS AND SHE WAS NOT AWARE 
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OF ANYBODY INDICATING TO VIDOT THAT IT WOULD BE DONATED. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE WE LEFT IT. 
          AND, UM, THEY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE PROCEEDING TO GET AN APPRAISAL AND OFFER US A PRICE FOR THIS LAND, OR WE WANT TO DONATE IT. 
          UH, ONE OPTION I SUGGESTED WAS THAT IT WOULD BE, IF THERE'S AN IN-KIND SHARE, IT WOULD BE OUR SHARE AND WE WOULD NOT GIVE THEM ANY CASH. 
          BUT IF IT'S ALL FUNDED BY STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDS WITH NO LOCAL FUNDS, THEN THEY SHOULD PAY US THE SAME AS EVERYBODY ELSE. 
          SO IN AND BRIEFING, UM, THE V DOT PUBLIC HEARING, UM, THE CONVERSATION WAS NOT ABOUT DONATION. 
          IT WAS ABOUT GOING TO EACH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER AND, UH, DETERMINING WHAT ARRANGEMENTS COULD BE MADE, BUT THERE WERE NO ASSUMPTIONS ON THAT PHONE CALL THAT ANYTHING WOULD BE DONATED WELL. 
          AND IN THE WORLD OF V DOT FROM PRIOR, UM, IF IT'S NOT IN WRITING, IT'S IMPLIED, DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THEIR TONE. 
          I, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH THE, IF IT'S, IF IT'S A LOCAL MATCH, WE'RE TAKING IT OUT OF ONE POCKET AND PUTTING IT IN THE OTHER, THAT DOESN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE. 
          BUT IF IT IS COMING FROM STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDS, WELL, IT'S STILL KIND OF COMING OUT OF ONE POCKET COMING OUT OF THE OTHER, BUT IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, UM, I DON'T HAVE SUPER STRONG FEELINGS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, DEPENDING ON YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, HE COULD NOT IDENTIFY ANYBODY FROM THE COUNTY WHO TOLD THEM THAT WE WERE GOING TO DONATE IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TO SAY, WELL, SO-AND-SO TOLD US, RIGHT? NO, I GUARANTEE IF IT WAS ON OUR PART SAYING YOU GUARANTEED US X, Y, Z, THEIR COMMENT WOULD BE SHOW ME THAT IN WRITING. 
          AND IF WE, COULDN'T SORRY FOR YOUR BAD LUCK. 
          UM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE SHOULD FEEL ANY DIFFERENT IN ONE WAY, BUT THAT'S MY BRUISED, UM, FROM PAST DEALINGS WITH THEM ON THAT. 
          SO I, AND I WILL LET THAT SLIDE, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, I DO KNOW THAT'S HOW THEY WORK. 
          UM, AND I'M SURE THEY'RE, THEY'RE WANTING US ON OUR GOOD GRACES TO, TO DONATE IT. 
          UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE DOING RIGHT AWAY, IS THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL OF LAND, UM, TO THE RIGHT OF ROCKLIN ROAD? IS THAT, WAS THAT THE PARCEL IT UP NEXT TO THE ROAD YOU'RE IN THERE? YES, RIGHT IN THERE. 
          IS THAT WHERE IT WAS RECENTLY SOLD FOR A BUSINESS, A WAREHOUSE OR SOMETHING. 
          AND IS, WERE THEY AWARE OF THAT AND IS THAT GONNA IN SOME WAY INHIBIT WITH THEIR PLANS ARE, OR AM I THINKING OF A DIFFERENT PIECE OF PROPERTY? NO. 
          TOWARDS, UM, RIGHT IN GO UP TOWARDS RIGHT, RIGHT IN THERE. 
          WHERE THE RED BOUND? NOPE. 
          NOPE. 
          YOU'RE YOU'RE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD RIGHT HERE. 
          SO THIS PROPERTY IS PROPERTY. 
          UM, THIS IS ALL ONE I'M THINKING OF A DIFFERENT AREA OUT THERE WHERE IT WAS RECENTLY SOMEONE. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE IS A PARCEL LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN. 
          THAT'S BEEN NOT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          AND WE'VE, UH, WE WERE A PART OF SOME INITIAL DISCUSSIONS AS EXALTA WAS DOING SOME CONSTRUCTION WORK. 
          AND THEY'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH FEED ABOUT THEIR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AND THE RIGHT OF WAY THERE. 
          UM, WELL, WE'VE LEFT THAT TO THEM AS PRIVATE DISCUSSIONS, BUT THEY HAVE ALSO, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THEY'VE BEEN TALKING WHERE ON THERE IS ISN'T THERE, HASN'T THERE BEEN TALK OF AN ADDITIONAL TRACK AS PART OF THIS PROJECT AND WHERE WOULD THAT? SO THE, FROM WHAT I'VE DONE IS THE MAYOR, THIS BRIDGE WOULD ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL MONEY, ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, BUT THEN ALSO IT'S TO ACCOMMODATE THE HEIGHT AND THEY HAVE A, THERE'S A GOOD VIDEO ON THE PROJECT PAGE WEBSITE. 
          WE CAN HONESTLY MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THAT LINK THAT SHOWS THE TYPE OF TRAIN TRAFFIC THEY EXPECT. 
          IT'S TWO CARGO CONTAINER STACKS. 
          SO IT'S PRETTY HIGH, BUT BECAUSE OF THE SLOPE AND EXISTING TOPOGRAPHY, WHILE IT WOULD BE HIGH OVER THE RAILROAD TRACK, UM, SLOPE DOWN, THEN YOU GET THERE AND THERE'S A RISE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD ITSELF WILL 
          [01:00:01]
NOT BE AS EXTREME. 
          BUT MR. PORTER, DO YOU WANT ME TO PULL UP THAT VIDEO FOR YOU? IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, ANY ONE WE DON'T HAVE, THAT'S FINE. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE LINK AND YOU CAN SHOW IT IT'S IT'S ON THE VITA PROJECT. 
          YEAH. 
          I D I JUST WASN'T SURE. 
          AND FROM THIS ANGLE, COULDN'T SEE. 
          CAUSE THAT WAS, UM, I DON'T REMEMBER WHO WAS SAYING THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE QUITE A STEEP. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S QUITE A TALL OVERPASS, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF TRAIN TRAFFIC. 
          AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT WITH EXTRA RAIL, BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE SLOPE, THE ROAD DOES GO DOWN TO THE TRACKS SLIGHTLY AND THEN IT RISES AS YOU GO ON THE OTHER SIDE. 
          BUT AGAIN, IT'S THE ROAD GOING INTO THE PARK. 
          IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE DIFFERENT. 
          IT WON'T BE BAD. 
          NOT, NOT A HORSE REAL CLOSE. 
          YEAH. 
          REAL CLOSE. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD. 
          IF IT IS THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD, WE SHOULD GO BACK AND TELL V DOT THAT NUMBER ONE, HOW HAS THE TOTAL PROJECT FUNDED? AND IF IT IS ALL STATE AND FEDERAL MONEY THAT WE ANTICIPATE, WE WOULD BE REIMBURSED FOR OUR EXPENSES OF THIS PROPERTY, THE SAME AS EVERYBODY ELSE NOW, WILL THEY PART OF THIS AS THEY BUILD THE NEW ENTRANCE TO ROCKLIN PARK, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S PART OF THE COST. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE DRAWN HERE, BOTH THE PROPOSED RYAN PLAY, WHICH WOULD BE THE FINAL. 
          AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT. 
          HIGHLIGHT ORANGE THAT WOULD INCLUDE HERE'S THE LIKE RELOCATE THE PARKING LOT THAT WE HAD AT ROCKLAND CLARK. 
          AND THAT THAT'S PART OF TEMPORARY. 
          SO THEY WOULD, UM, REESTABLISH THAT IT'S GOING TO COME IN DOWN THERE, NOT OFF THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FLYOVER. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THEY JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT FURTHER UP. 
          AND THEN WHEN YOU WERE TALKING DOWN, THERE'S AN EXISTING PARKING LOT AND YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          I THOUGHT IT SHOULD COME IN UP THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT JUST, I, I HAVE TWO CROSSOVERS IN MY END OF THE COUNTY AND WHEN THAT TRAIN BACKS UP, IT BACKS UP UP THERE TOO. 
          AND I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY. 
          IT MIGHT SOLVE A PROBLEM. 
          THERE, ARE WE GOING TO DO 27,000 MILLION DOLLARS IN TWO OTHER SPOTS BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST BACKING UP, YOU KNOW? YEAH. 
          IT'S AN OBVIOUS ISSUE. 
          WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, GOING AROUND THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, HERE, SHADOW SHORES, SMEAR SHADYS LANE. 
          THESE ARE SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE COMPLETELY LOCKED IN WHEN IT HAPPENS. 
          SO IT, IT DEFINITELY IMPACTS A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE COUNTY. 
          IT DOES. 
          AND I, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EXPENSIVE FIX. 
          IT'S ONLY GONNA FIX ONE PLACE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T BEGRUDGE IT. 
          NOT AT ALL FOR ANYBODY WHO WILL LISTEN TO THIS AND THINK, OH MY GOODNESS, SHE'S GOING TO TRY AND TAKE THIS AWAY. 
          I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK PEOPLE NEED TO BE AWARE. 
          IT'S NOT GOING TO FIX THE WHOLE PROBLEM THAT THE TRAIN CREATES IN THE COUNTY. 
          AND IT'S, UM, IT'S A SHAME. 
          IT CAN'T, OH, IT'S GOING TO IMPACT EVENTUALLY 5,500 PEOPLE. 
          IS THAT THE ESTIMATE, JOE? SO THAT'S THE ESTIMATE CURRENTLY IT'S IN THE TWO THOUSANDS IS THE DAILY TRAFFIC, BUT THEIR CONSTRUCTION DATE IS THE 2040S. 
          I BELIEVE IT GOES INTO THE 5,000 RANGE OF DAILY TRAFFIC. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY IF YOU IMPROVE THE RAILROAD GOING INTO THE PORT AND ADDITIONAL TRAIN TRAFFIC GOING INTO THERE, IT WOULD OBVIOUSLY GET A LITTLE BIT WORSE. 
          AND THERE WILL BE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, DETOURS DURING CONSTRUCTION, WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DETOUR ALL THE WAY UP TO FAIRGROUND ROAD, OR YOU CAN LOWER THE BRIDGE. 
          SO THERE'S, THERE'LL BE SOME IMPACT DURING CONSTRUCTION AS WELL. 
          THAT WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH FROM A COMMUNITY STANDPOINT THAT WE'LL WANT TO LOOK AT, UM, SIMILAR TO WHEN THEY WERE DOING THE BRIDGES ALMOST. 
          UM, BUT, UH, WELL I DID RECEIVE JUST FOR FYI AND I'LL SHARE THIS EMAIL, BUT I DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL BASED ON MY PREVIOUS QUESTION, UH, TO THE V DOT, UM, REPRESENTATIVE WASN'T MR. CARTER WAS HIS ASSOCIATE WHO WAS HERE IN DECEMBER. 
          AND HE SENT ME AN EMAIL AND TOLD ME THAT THEY HAD MADE ARRANGEMENTS WITH THE IMPACTED CHURCHES WITH HOW TO GET INTO THEIR, UM, PROPERTIES. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARRANGEMENTS ARE SPECIFICALLY, BUT THEY'VE MADE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THEY'VE STATED IN THAT ACCESS TO THE CHURCH'S ACCESS TO THE PARK WILL REMAIN THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT. 
          AGAIN, YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY AROUND. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'LL, I'LL WORK WITH DR. 
          DAILY ON GETTING ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO, SO, OKAY. 
          [01:05:02]
WE APPRECIATE IT. 
          UPDATE 
          [C. Update on the Department of Technology – Todd Jones]
ON THE DEPARTMENT OF TECHNOLOGY, MR. JONES. 
          THANK YOU EVERYONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HAPPY NEW YEAR. 
          THANK YOU, MRS. COOK. 
          MR. BUTLER. 
          WELCOME. 
          COULD I HAVE YOU GUYS ON BOARD? UM, I HAVE BEEN IN WITH THE IT DEPARTMENT NOW FOR A LITTLE OVER FOUR MONTHS. 
          AND SO I'VE KIND OF GOT MY FEET WET IN IT AND GOT AN IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHERE WE NEED TO GO. 
          AND SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF EXACTLY SOME OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES WE'RE TAKING ON AS WELL AS, UM, THE DIFFERENT POSITIONS WE'RE LOOKING TO FILL AND SOME UPCOMING EVENTS THAT WILL BE HAPPENING. 
          SO WE'LL START WITH JUST KIND OF A, UH, RESPONSIBILITY BREAKDOWN. 
          OF COURSE, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR CYBER NETWORK SECURITY SYSTEM MAINTENANCE AND DEPLOYMENT OF WORKSTATION SERVERS, PHYSICAL HARDWARE, OPERATING SYSTEMS RELATED TO HARDWARE, OF COURSE, TO THAT AS WELL, NETWORK MAINTENANCE, THE CONES GOT QUITE AN ELABORATE NETWORK, UM, REQUIRES SOME MAINTENANCE AND SOME TIME TO, TO, TO, UH, ATTEND TO THAT AND SOME DEPLOYMENT OF NEW NETWORK SYSTEMS AS WELL, NETWORK SWITCHES, FIREWALLS, INTERNET SERVICE PROVISION. 
          WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING AN EVALUATION LOOKING AT EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT, EVERY SINGLE LOCATION TO FIND OUT WHOEVER CURRENT INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER IS AND, AND IS OUR COST SAVINGS AVAILABLE BY MOVING THEM TO A DIFFERENT INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT KIND OF TRYING TO USE ONE VENDOR FOR EVERYTHING, THEREBY GETTING THE LARGER DISCOUNTS, SAVING THE COUNTY MONEY AND SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT WAYS. 
          WE'RE ALSO DOING THAT WITH, WITH PHONE SERVICES WHILE PHYSICAL FUND SERVICE. 
          I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT CELL PHONE SERVICE, UM, AND THEN COMMUNICATIONS, WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME WEBSITE STUFF, SOCIAL MEDIA STUFF, PRESS, UM, WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE PRESS AND PUBLIC INQUIRIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          I'LL HAVE MORE DETAILS ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT HERE. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, ADMINISTRATION OF ALL THESE SYSTEMS TAKES QUITE A BIT OF TIME AS WELL. 
          UM, SO THE, THE FIRST POSITION OF COURSE IS MINE. 
          I'M ON THE I'M THE DIRECTOR. 
          I OVERSEE THE DEPARTMENT AND STAFF SET PRIORITIES AND DIRECTIONS HANDLE BUBBA BUDGET PREPARATION, OVERSEE CYBER NETWORK AND SYSTEMS DEPLOYMENT, UM, WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE APPROPRIATE VENDORS TO ENSURE BEST PRICE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS. 
          THAT'S A BIG THING WITH ME. 
          I DON'T TYPICALLY TAKE THE EASIEST THING. 
          I TAKE THE BEST THING. 
          UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S ALWAYS A COST INVOLVED AND WE TRY TO GET IN THAT PLACE WHERE WE'RE GETTING THE RIGHT THING AT THE RIGHT TIME OR NOT SPENDING TOO MUCH MONEY FOR BLEEDING EDGE TECHNOLOGY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, GETTING WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE, THAT'S GONNA LAST A LONG TIME. 
          UM, WE WORKED, WE WORKED DIRECTLY WITH, WITH THE VENDORS TO DO THAT TYPE OF STUFF. 
          WE DO ADVANCE. 
          I ALSO DO ADVANCED SYSTEM SUPPORT. 
          SO IF THERE'S A, IF THERE'S A USER IN THE BUILDING OR SOMEWHERE IN THE SYSTEM THAT NEEDS TECH SUPPORT, I'LL GO HELP THEM WITH THAT AS WELL. 
          AND THEN WE'LL SET IT POLICIES AND WORK WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS FOR A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS, INCLUDING CASTING VISION AND PROPER ADOPTION OF NEW HARDWARE AND SYSTEMS. UM, SO THAT'S KINDA MY POSITION. 
          THE SECOND POSITION WE HAVE AS A SYSTEMS TECHNICIAN, UH, THAT SAM CHEST SHYER WHAT HE WAS HIRED BACK IN NOVEMBER, HIS PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITIES, ADVANCED SYSTEMS TROUBLESHOOTING, BASIC NETWORK SUPPORT MAINTENANCE OF VARIOUS SYSTEMS, INCLUDING DATA BACKUP AND STORAGE, AZURE ACTIVE DIRECTORY, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE'RE WE'RE GETTING INTO HERE RECENTLY AND DIFFERENT AZURE SYSTEMS THAT ALLOWS US TO DO SOME CLOUD-BASED, UH, COMPUTER SYSTEMS THAT THAT CAN HELP US WITH SECURITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS WELL, AS WELL, AS WELL AS MAINTAIN SYSTEMS, OUR DESKTOP SUPPORT AND DEPLOYMENT OF DIFFERENT DESKTOPS, SOFTWARE DEPLOYMENT, AND TELECOMMUNICATION SUPPORT, UH, THAT SAM, THE NEXT POSITION WE HAVE IS A NETWORK ADMINISTRATOR. 
          THIS IS YET UNFILLED, UM, TO BE CANTERBURY HAVING A HECK OF A HARD TIME FINDING THIS PERSON, BUT THE REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ET CETERA, EXCEPTIONAL COMPUTER NETWORKING SKILLS AND EXCEPTIONAL CYBERSECURITY SKILLS. 
          UM, AND THEN THEY WENT THEIR BASIC RESPONSIBILITIES TO MAINTAIN AND BUILD THE NETWORK. 
          UM, WE'RE HAVING A DIFFICULT ENOUGH TIME FILLING THIS POSITION THAT IT MAY BE THAT WE'LL RAISE UP SAM TO DO SOME OF THIS WORK AND BRING IN ANOTHER SYSTEMS TECHNICIAN TO KIND OF BUILD FROM WITHIN, UM, THAT WAY WE WERE KIND OF, SAM'S EXCITED. 
          HE SEEMS TO BE MORE THAN CAPABLE OF DOING THE WORK. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING TO HEAD IN, BUT AT THIS POINT, THAT'S THAT WE NEED SOMEONE TO DO NETWORK ADMINISTRATION. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT. 
          WHY ARE YOU HAVING A PROBLEM AND TRYING TO GET SOMEONE TO TAKE THIS POSITION? WE JUST CAN'T GET APPLICATIONS. 
          I MEAN, WE'VE HAD FOUR OR FIVE APPLICATIONS AND HAVE EACH PERSON I'VE INTERVIEWED, THEY'VE REALLY BEEN ON A SYSTEMS TECHNICIAN LEVEL. 
          THERE'S ONLY BEEN ONE PERSON THAT I'VE INTERVIEWED THAT WAS ACTUALLY QUALIFIED TO DO THE JOB. 
          AND, AND THE REASON WHY WAS IT BECAUSE THIS PERSON WASN'T A GOOD FIT IN THE ORGANIZATION OR WHAT WE DON'T WANT IT. 
          SO THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH, UM, UH, THE WAGE WE'RE OFF. 
          I DON'T 
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THINK SO. 
          I DON'T WANT TO ASSUME THAT, I MEAN, IF I FELT LIKE THAT A HIGHER WAGE WOULD GET US WHAT WE NEED, I'D COME TO YOU AND REQUEST THAT I HAVEN'T DONE THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT THAT'S, WHAT'S NECESSARY AT THIS POINT, BUT TRUST ME IF WE GET THERE AND I FEEL LIKE, HEY, IF WE ADDED, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR SIX OR $7,000 TO THIS, I THINK WE COULD GET WHAT WE NEED. 
          I'D COME TO YOU IN A SECOND. 
          BELIEVE ME. 
          SO NETWORK ADMINISTRATORS ARE SPECIFIC SKILL SETS, AND THEY'RE NOT TYPICAL OF, UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO FIND SYSTEMS, ADMINISTRATORS THAT ARE USED TO PASSWORDS AND MAINTAINING THOSE KINDS OF SYSTEMS, BUT NETWORKS ARE CISCO AND ROUTERS AND SWITCHES. 
          AND THERE, I MEAN, I WILL JUST BE HONEST AS A TECHNICAL RECRUITER. 
          THAT'S A DIFFICULT FIND EVERYWHERE. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          YEAH. 
          YEP. 
          SO, UM, THE, THE LAST POSITION, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE'LL ASK FOR APPROVAL FROM THE BOARD, UM, IN THE NEXT MEETING, AS A MEDIA SERVICES SPECIALIST, THIS PERSON WOULD HAVE EXCEPTIONAL COMMUNICATION SKILLS, GOOD GRAPHICS AND COPYWRITING SKILLS AND ADMINISTRATIVE SKILLS. 
          THEIR PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITIES WOULD INCLUDE BEING A PUBLIC INFORMATION. 
          OFFICER, UH, HANDLING PRESS RELEASES BEING THE PRIMARY MEDIA CONTACT. 
          THEY WOULD DO SOME BASIC SYSTEM SUPPORT. 
          EVERYBODY IN THE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE DOING SOME TYPE OF BASIC SYSTEM SUPPORT, UM, ASSISTANCE WITH DEPARTMENT OF BUDGET PROCESS AND ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF, SUCH AS WRITING IT POLICIES, RFPS, RFAS, RFQ, WEBSITE, MAINTENANCE, SOCIAL MEDIA MAINTENANCE, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, THIS IS JUST KIND OF THE COMMUNICATIONS PART OF WHAT WE DO. 
          IT'S NATURALLY BUILT INTO AN IT DEPARTMENT TO HANDLE SOME OF THIS STUFF. 
          IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A SPECIALIST THAT CAN DO SOME OF THIS AS WELL. 
          SO YOU'LL BE HEARING LATER ON, UM, IN ANOTHER MEETING FOR APPROVAL FOR THAT JOB DESCRIPTION AND THAT SALARY. 
          UM, IN A NUTSHELL, THIS IS THE BREAKDOWN WITH THE DIRECTOR AND IN THE THREE POSITIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO USE IN THE IT DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THAT? OKAY. 
          LET ME DIVE INTO SOME UPCOMING INITIATIVES AND SOME THINGS WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY CYBERSECURITY IS A BIG THING. 
          NETWORK SECURITY IS A BIG THING. 
          UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON DEPLOYMENTS FOR VULNERABILITY SCANNING TOOLS THAT ALLOWS US TO LOOK FROM A NETWORK LEVEL AT ALL THE COMPUTERS AND ALL THE SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AND IDENTIFY WHERE SOMEONE HASN'T SAY DONE AN UPDATE ON THEIR COMPUTER OR WHERE THERE'S A VULNERABILITY ON A SWITCH, OR BASICALLY WHERE THERE'S A VULNERABILITY WHERE, WHERE IT COULD BE EXPLOITED BY SOMEONE EXTERNAL. 
          SO WE, WE RECENTLY CAME INTO A PROBLEM. 
          THERE WAS A RECENT EXPLOIT THAT CAME OUT CALLED LOG FOR JS. 
          IT'S A, IT'S A BIG EXPLOIT. 
          IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS A BIG PROBLEM ACROSS THE COUNTRY, ACROSS THE WORLD. 
          WE SPENT PROBABLY A WEEK MAKING SURE OUR SYSTEMS WERE PROTECTED FROM THAT, FROM THAT PARTICULAR EXPLOITATION. 
          AND IN THE PROCESS OF THAT, UM, WE WERE, WE FOUND OUT THAT WE REALLY NEEDED SOME VULNERABILITY SCANNING SOFTWARE TO MAKE THAT PROCESS A LOT EASIER. 
          UM, W WE'RE DEPLOYING A SYSTEM WITH THE POINT SYSTEMS TO, IN SOFTWARE TO ASSIST IN SOFTWARE UPDATES. 
          UM, THERE'S A SYSTEM THAT WE WANT TO USE. 
          YOU HEARD ME TALK ABOUT AZURE, BUT PREVIOUSLY AZURE IS A SYSTEM WHERE FROM A CLOUD-BASED COMMONPLACE PA PLATFORM, WE CAN SEND OUT UPDATES TO EVERYBODY'S COMPUTERS, EVEN SEND THEM TO THEIR PHONES AND, AND THINGS THAT ARE CONNECTED TO A NETWORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE UPDATES ARE APPLIED PROPERLY, KEPT UP WITH. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'LL, WE'RE CONTINUING TO REPLACE LEGACY HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE. 
          UM, THERE'S SOME SERVERS THAT STILL NEED REPLACEMENT. 
          WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. 
          AND WE'RE LOOKING AT DESKTOP COMPUTERS. 
          WE FOUND ONE LAST WEEK, THAT WAS AN OLDER MACHINE THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF REPLACING. 
          SO LOOKING AT LEGACY SYSTEM SYSTEMS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN UPDATED OR THAT ARE VULNERABLE AND REPLACING THOSE AS NEED BE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THAT? YOU HAVE A TIMELINE FOR THESE INITIATIVES. 
          OH, THIS IS, THIS WAS GOING ON. 
          AND YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO WHAT I HOPE TO HAVE THE, UH, THE, THE, UH, VULNERABILITY SCANNING TOOLS DEPLOYED WITHIN THE NEXT THREE, SIX MONTHS. 
          UM, BUT THE REST OF IT IS JUST CONSISTENTLY ONGOING. 
          IT NEVER STOPS. 
          UM, AND THEN WHEN, WHEN, WHEN SPECIFIC VULNERABILITIES COME OUT, LIKE THE LOG FOR JAY'S VULNERABILITY, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT SPECIFICALLY AND SEE HOW IT APPLIES TO OUR SYSTEMS AND SOME THINGS DOING SOME THINGS DON'T. 
          SO, SO, SO THE THIRD BULLET WHERE YOU HAVING PLACED LEGACY HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE YEAH. 
          WE'LL HAVE THAT DONE WITHIN THREE MONTHS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S NOT ONGOING. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT WOULD NOT. 
          WELL, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE ONGOING, YOU MAY FIND IN SIX MONTHS THAT A SYSTEM THAT WE'VE BEEN USING FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. 
          I MEAN, THERE DOES COME TIME, FOR INSTANCE, UM, UH, MICROSOFT HAS DROPPED, UH, SUPPORT FOR WINDOWS SEVEN. 
          EVENTUALLY THEY'LL DROP SUPPORT FOR WINDOWS 10 AND WE'LL HAVE TO MIGRATE TO THE LATEST VERSION OF THAT OPERATING SYSTEM. 
          SO THAT'S A MORE LONG-TERM PROCESS, BUT YEAH, WE'RE, WE'LL STILL BE LOOKING AT LEGACY SYSTEMS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED ACCORDINGLY. 
          SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? 
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YEAH. 
          DATA BACKUP. 
          SO, UM, THIS, THIS I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE DATA BACKUPS, UNIMPORTANT THING. 
          UM, WE HAVE DATA BACKUP SYSTEMS IN PLACE CURRENTLY FOR CRITICAL DATA SUCH AS AES 400 INFORMATION THAT CONTAINS TAX INFORMATION AND CONTAINS, UM, INFORMATION RELATED TO EMPLOYEES AND, AND SALARIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE'S THAT IF WE HAD TO RECOVER THAT SYSTEM, IT WOULD TAKE QUITE A BIT OF TIME TO DO THAT. 
          IT'S, IT'S AN ELABORATE RECOVERY PROCESS OFF OF LITERALLY TAPE. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING AT DEPLOYING SYSTEMS THAT ALLOW US TO NOT ONLY GET A BETTER BACKUP OF, OF THAT INFORMATION, BUT IF, IF WE HAD TO RESTORE IT, WE COULD RESTORE IT MUCH MORE QUICKLY. 
          AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT BACKING UP OTHER INF OTHER SERVERS AND OTHER DATA AS WELL. 
          FOR INSTANCE, THE GIS SERVER HAS A BACKUP SYSTEM RIGHT NOW, BUT IT ISN'T A VERY RELIABLE BACKUP SYSTEM. 
          I'M NOT TO BE CANDID. 
          I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO RESTORE IT. 
          I COULD PROBABLY FIGURE IT OUT, BUT I'D RATHER PUT A SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT WE UNDERSTAND HOW TO USE. 
          AND THEN THE PROCESS TO DO THAT. 
          AS YOU DEPLOY THE NEW SYSTEM, YOU BACK UP THE INFORMATION, THEN YOU DO A TEST RESTORE. 
          THEN YOU REPEAT THAT AND YOU REPEAT THAT PROCESS ON A DIFFERENT SERVER EVERY MONTH OR SO TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW, HOW EVERYTHING WORKS. 
          THE NEW BACKUP SYSTEM WILL HAVE, UM, TWO LOCATIONS THAT ARE NOT IN, IN LOCATIONS WHERE EVERYTHING IS COMMON. 
          SO WE WOULDN'T PUT ONE IN HERE. 
          FOR INSTANCE, WE WOULD PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          OR, OR FOR INSTANCE, ONE OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, IF THEY HAD EQUIPMENT, WE NEED TO BACK UP, WE'D PUT THEIR BACKUP HARDWARE HERE, SO THAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENED OUT THERE, IT WOULDN'T AFFECT A BACKUP OVER HERE, THAT TYPE OF THING. 
          UM, AND IT WOULD INCLUDE ALL SITE REPOSITORIES. 
          SO MOST OF THE DATA WILL STAY IN INTERNAL AND ON OUR SERVERS, IN OUR SYSTEMS IN HERE LOCALLY. 
          BUT IF WE NEED TO, WE CAN, UM, DO AN OFFSITE REPOSITORY, SAY THROUGH AMAZON WEB SERVICES OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, YOU MIGHT NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH AWS, BUT IT'S A SOLID CAPABLE SYSTEM FOR STORING DATA. 
          SO WE MAY USE THAT SYSTEM AS, AS TIME COMES, WE'LL SEE HOW THINGS GO. 
          THERE'S A THING CALLED A BARE METAL BACKUP. 
          THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE YOU CAN TAKE A SERVER, PUT IT IN IRAQ AND DUMP THE DATA ONTO IT. 
          AND IT'S RESTORED. 
          THAT'S A COMPLICATED PROCESS. 
          UM, NORMALLY, BUT WITH THE RIGHT'S BACKUP SOFTWARE PACKAGE, THAT'S A VERY WITH RIGHT BACKUP SOFTWARE PACKAGE IS A VERY EASY WAY TO DO IT. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS US TO DO. 
          WHAT'S CALLED A BARE METAL BACKUP, UM, OTHER UPCOMING INITIATIVES. 
          UM, WE'LL PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT THE POINTS FROM VIRTUAL SERVERS. 
          VIRTUAL SERVERS ALLOW US TO GET ONE BOX THAT HAS MULTIPLE INSTANCES OF WINDOWS SERVER RUNNING ON IT. 
          SO INSTEAD OF BUYING A $10,000 PIECE OF HARDWARE HERE AND HERE AND HERE, AND HAVING FOUR INDIVIDUAL PHYSICAL BOXES, YOU HAVE ONE BOX IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE PRICEY, BUT IT RUNS ALL THE SERVER INSTANCES ON THAT ONE BOX, THEREBY SAVING YOUR MONEY. 
          INSTEAD OF HAVING TO BUY ALL THIS HARDWARE, YOU JUST BUY THE SOFTWARE THAT'S RELATED TO THAT. 
          SO WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE DEPLOYING SOME OF THOSE SYSTEMS AND MOVING OUR GIS SERVER TO A SYSTEM LIKE THAT AND SOME OTHER SERVERS AS WELL. 
          UM, AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE IT'S A VIRTUAL INSTANCE. 
          I KNOW THAT PROBABLY SOUNDS LIKE A REAL TECHNICAL TERM, BUT ALLOWS RECOVERY OF A BACKUP MUCH MORE QUICKLY THROUGH, THROUGH A VIRTUAL INSTANCE, AS OPPOSED TO A PHYSICAL INSTANCE. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? YEAH. 
          I'M LOOKING AT THE SUB BULLET HERE, A PURCHASE PROPER LICENSING FOR THESE THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO FOR INSTANCE, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU SET UP A, UM, WHEN YOU SET UP A SERVER FOR VIRTUAL VIRTUALIZATION, YOU, YOU CAN PUT A WINDOW SERVER LICENSE ON IT, BUT THAT ONLY ALLOWS YOU TO RUN A ONE INSTANCE OF WINDOWS SERVER ON IT. 
          SO IF YOU WANT TO RUN MULTIPLE SERVERS ON IT, YOU HAVE TO BUY MULTIPLE LICENSES FOR THAT. 
          SO DEPENDING ON HOW MANY LICENSES, HOW MANY SERVERS WE'RE GOING TO RUN ON THAT ONE PHYSICAL BOX WILL DEPEND ON WHAT TYPE OF LICENSING WE PURCHASE. 
          MICROSOFT OFFERS A LICENSE WHERE YOU CAN GET ANY NUMBER OF INSTANCES YOU WANT ON THAT ONE SERVER. 
          UM, BUT IT'S EXPENSIVE. 
          IT MAY BE MORE COST COST-EFFECTIVE TO JUST BUY THREE, UH, INSTANCES OF MICROSOFT WINDOWS, SERVER SOFTWARE, SPECIFICALLY. 
          WE'LL LOOK AT THAT. 
          WHEN WE DECIDE HOW MANY INSTANCES WE'RE GOING TO RUN ON THE PHYSICAL BOX. 
          SO ANYTHING ELSE I DON'T MEAN TO BORE YOU ALL WITH TECHNICAL STUFF? FORGIVE ME. 
          UM, ANOTHER, UH, UPCOMING INITIATIVE IS COMMUNICATIONS. 
          UM, WE'RE TRYING TO SET UP A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE PUBLIC. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE EACH OF YOU TO COMMUNICATE WITH AS WELL, BUT IF THEY HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT SOME TYPE OF POLICY OR SOMETHING THAT WORKS, HOW THEY, WHERE THEY NEED TO GO FOR WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO IN THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT THAT CAN KIND OF DIRECT THAT THOSE PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          UM, WE'LL DO AN UPDATE. 
          WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE THE WEBSITE. 
          UM, WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE THE WEBSITE SPECIFICALLY. 
          I HOPE WITH A PRODUCT THAT WORKS SPECIFICALLY FOR MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS, RATHER THAN HAVING KIND OF A GENERIC WEBSITE, THAT'S CUSTOM 
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BUILT TO OUR NEEDS. 
          WE'LL HAVE A WEBSITE THAT IS ACTUALLY DESIGNED FOR MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS AND US TO HAVE CERTAIN PLUGINS AND DIFFERENT THINGS WE CAN DO THROUGH THAT WEBSITE THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO A GOVERNMENT AGENCY. 
          SO WE LOOK INTO DOING THAT AND, UM, WELL, WE'RE CURRENTLY TRYING TO GET AHOLD OF ALL THE SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, SYSTEMS THAT ARE OUT THERE. 
          EVERYBODY'S GOT A DIFFERENT SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM. 
          EACH DEPARTMENT'S GOT A DIFFERENT THING THEY'RE DOING. 
          WE DON'T WANT TO CONTROL WHAT THE DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING. 
          THEY'RE ALL DOING A GOOD JOB, BUT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE KIND OF A, AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT EVERYBODY'S DOING SO THAT WE CAN CROSS POST AND MAKE SURE WE'RE HAVING A UNIFIED MESSAGE AND THAT TYPE OF THING. 
          SO FOR INSTANCE, IF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS A BIG WIN AND THEY POST THAT ON THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA, WE DO THE SAME WITH THE COUNTY, SOCIAL MEDIA SIDE OF THINGS, JUST KIND OF A COORDINATED COMMUNICATIONS EFFORT IN THAT DIRECTION. 
          UM, AND THEN EMPLOYEE COMMUNICATIONS. 
          UM, YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THAT, UH, THERE'S A BIG INITIATIVE TO, YOU KNOW, UH, COMMUNICATE WITH EMPLOYEES BETTER, UH, THROUGH A PORTAL. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA WORK ON THAT AS WELL, WHERE WE HAVE A PORTAL THAT HAS ALL THE INFORMATION RELATED TO YOUR EMPLOYMENT. 
          YOU CAN GET YOUR PAYCHECK STUBS THROUGH THE NEW SOFTWARE PACKAGE. 
          WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTING YOU CAN, UM, ACCESS INFORMATION RELATED TO HOW TO USE MICROSOFT WORD FOR INSTANCE, OR AN EDUCATION ABOUT WHAT PHISHING IS AND WHY THAT'S A PROBLEM AND GIVE YOU SOME, GIVE YOU SOME BACKUPS AND SOME, SOME, UM, UH, AWARENESS OF PHISHING ATTEMPTS AND CYBERSECURITY THREATS. 
          QUITE FRANKLY, WE COULD PUT ALL THE GREATEST HARDWARE AND ALL THE GREATEST SYSTEMS IN THE WORLD IN PLACE. 
          BUT IF SOMEONE GIVES SOMEONE INFORMATION THROUGH THEIR COMPUTER THAT THEY DON'T MEAN TO. 
          SO FOR INSTANCE, MY COMPUTER'S UNLOCKED AND I HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE ACCESS TO, TO A COMPUTER. 
          AND SOMEBODY WALKS IN AND SITS DOWN AT MY DESK AND TYPES ON MY COMPUTER. 
          THAT'S WIDE OPEN. 
          I CAN'T, I CAN'T PROTECT AGAINST THAT. 
          I CAN ONLY PROTECT AGAINST, YOU KNOW, HARDWARE RELATED ISSUES AS SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, UM, GETS AN EMAIL THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, WHAT MADE MY NAME'S WALT MADE? AND I'D LIKE YOU TO GET EVERYBODY $20 GIFT CARDS, ALL THE EMPLOYEES, HERE'S MY INFORMATION. 
          PLEASE SEND IT WHEN WE SEE THAT HAPPENING, NOT TO USE SPECIFICALLY WON'T, BUT, BUT SOME PEOPLE GET CAUGHT ON THAT. 
          I'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN IN MY PREVIOUS EMPLOYER WHERE THAT'S, THAT PROCESS HAS ALREADY STARTED. 
          AND THERE'S THE EDGE OF LOSING MONEY. 
          I ACTUALLY SAW ONE TIME WHERE AN EMPLOYEE AT ANOTHER LOCATION WHERE I WORKED PREVIOUSLY, UM, SOMEONE HAD REQUESTED THAT THEIR DIRECT DEPOSIT GET CHANGED. 
          AND, UH, NO, NO, NO. 
          THAT, THAT THEY, THAT THEY TRANSFER MONEY FROM ONE ACCOUNT TO ANOTHER. 
          AND THEN THE TRANSFORMATION HAPPENS $5,000. 
          IT WENT THROUGH THE BANK THAT GOT TRANSFERRED, NEVER HAPPENED TO ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES, BUT SOMEONE HAD ACCESS TO THAT. 
          EMPLOYEE'S EMAIL WAS ABLE TO ACT LIKE THEY WERE COMING FROM THAT PERSON SPECIFICALLY. 
          SO WE NEED TO TRAIN PEOPLE AND SHOW THEM ABOUT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS SO THAT THE USERS AND THE PEOPLE ON OUR NETWORK KNOW WHAT BEST PRACTICES ARE AND WHAT TO LOOK FOR. 
          UM, YEAH, I APOLOGIZE. 
          I ADDED THAT SLIDE AT THE LAST MINUTE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, BUT EMPLOYEE EDUCATION IS A REALLY BIG THING IN THE NUMBER ONE THING I CAN DO IS TRAIN STAFF AND TRAIN EVERYBODY ON THE SYSTEM ABOUT WHAT TO LOOK FOR AND MAKE EVERYBODY ELSE MY EYES AND EARS, NOT JUST MYSELF. 
          SO, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          ONE APPROVAL OF THE MEDIA SERVICES, SPECIALIST, JOB POSITION. 
          YOU'LL SEE, YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT THAT IN THE NEXT MEETING. 
          AND SECONDLY, AWARENESS OF FUNDING NEEDS. 
          UM, I'LL BRING THOSE TO YOU AS THEY COME UP, BUT, UM, NONE OF THIS STUFF IS, IS FREE. 
          OF COURSE WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE IT THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE THING WE CAN. 
          AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT TRYING TO BUILD THE PROCESS OR NOT JUST OUTLAYING HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY RIGHT OFF THE TOP, WHERE WE TRY TO BUILD THINGS IN OVER TIME AND, AND, AND STEP SYSTEMS OUT. 
          SO WE MAY BUY, WE MAY SAY FOR INSTANCE, BY A LARGER PIECE OF HARDWARE, BUT THE LICENSING MAY BE SMALLER AS WE, UNTIL WE BUILD UP AND GET WHERE WE NEED TO GO. 
          SO WELL, THESE COSTS WILL BE PART OF THE YEAR BUDGET THOUGH. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'RE WORKING ON THAT BUDGET PROCESS AS WE SPEAK. 
          SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, EMAILS, OLD EMAILS. 
          I, THAT IS THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE. 
          EMAIL, PLEASE. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          SO WE STARTED THAT PROCESS SEVERAL WEEKS AGO AND WE'VE RUN INTO SOME HICCUPS BASICALLY WHEN WE DO THE RESTORE, NOT ALL EMAILS ARE COMING ACROSS, LIKE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO. 
          SO WE STOPPED ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED NEXT WEEK TO SPEAK WITH SOMEONE ABOUT, HAVE SOMEONE ONSITE TO SHOW US EXACTLY THE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO CAPTURE. 
          EVERYBODY'S OLD EMAILS BACK. 
          SO BEAR WITH ME, GIVE ME 10 DAYS. 
          HOPEFULLY I HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU. 
          I HAVE ONE REQUEST OF YOU AND WE'VE TALKED, WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN OUR ADVANCE. 
          UM, WE WOULD LIKE A CENTRAL REPOSITORY WHERE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE VARIOUS EXTERNAL, UM, ORGANIZATIONS. 
          AND WE SERVE ON BOARDS, PERHAPS THAT WE COULD HAVE A CENTRAL LOCATION WHERE EVERYBODY COULD BE UPDATED ON 
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THEIR RESPECTIVE, UM, COMMITTEES. 
          FOR INSTANCE, I SERVE ON THE RSW BOARD AND, YOU KNOW, I MIGHT LIKE TO POST SOME SNIPPETS OF THE RSW, UH, MEETING MINUTES SO THAT CHERYL CAN KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. 
          W I WOULD TYPICALLY DO THAT THROUGH A SHAREPOINT PROCESS. 
          AND IF YOU WANT, AND WE HAVE ACCESS TO SHAREPOINT ALREADY AS PART OF OUR LICENSING. 
          AND IF YOU NEED HELP ON SETTING UP A SHAREPOINT SITE AND SETTING UP USERS ON THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST LET ME KNOW, PUT IN A WORK ORDER, WE'LL GET WITH YOU AND WE'LL SET UP WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO THAT THAT'S ALL CALLED. 
          I HAVE TO HAVE SOME TRAINING JUST SO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND HOW TO MANIPULATE AND USE THE DATA THAT'S OUT THERE. 
          BECAUSE I IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE FROM WORK THAT NOT EVERYBODY IS SHAREPOINT LITERAL. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          IT'S NOT AN EASY THING EITHER. 
          IT'S A COMPLICATED, YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO REACH FOLDERS AND SO FORTH, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT TOOL SO THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND BRIEF EVERY PERSON SURE. 
          THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEE WHAT THE OUTCOMES WERE AT SPECIFIC COMMITTEE MEETINGS. 
          SURE. 
          AND WHEN I TALK ABOUT A, AN EMPLOYEE PORTAL, THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT WE'RE, WE ALREADY HAVE A SHAREPOINT SITE SET UP FOR TRAINING AS JUST KIND OF A DEMO TO SEE HOW EVERYBODY LIKES IT AND WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK. 
          BUT WE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WE'LL USE THAT AS, AS NEEDED AND SET PEOPLE UP WITH WHATEVER THEY NEED. 
          JUST LET US KNOW WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE. 
          WE'LL HELP YOU OUT AND TRAININGS. 
          I'M ONE MORE THING I DO WANT TO MENTION. 
          TRAINING'S A BIG THING. 
          WE SAT IN A MEETING WITH, WITH EVERYBODY, UM, SEVERAL WEEKS AGO WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT HEADS. 
          AND I MADE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT HOW WE'RE NOT DOING THIS, AND WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. 
          EVERYBODY SAID, WE DON'T KNOW HOW SO WE'RE GOING TO TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO USE MICROSOFT OFFICE PRODUCTS PROPERLY. 
          WE'RE GONNA TEACH PEOPLE NOT JUST HOW TO IDENTIFY PHISHING ATTEMPTS, BUT HOW TO USE THE SOFTWARE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THEM. 
          AND A MUCH MORE SPECIFIC WAY. 
          I THINK PROBABLY WHAT WE'LL INITIALLY DO IS HAVE SOME HANDS-ON CLASSES WHERE WE'LL SET UP SEVERAL COMPUTERS IN A ROOM, LET EVERYBODY DO THEIR THING AND SHOW THEM WHAT, WHAT WORKS AND ANSWER QUESTIONS. 
          AND EVENTUALLY WE'LL DO MORE OF AN ELECTRONIC TYPE OF TRAINING WHERE IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE ADVANCED, UH, WAYS TO USE POWERPOINT, YOU CAN DO THAT ONLINE. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          I NEED TO BE IN THAT CLASS. 
          WE'LL GET YOU THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ALL RIGHT. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT DAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          AND EMERGENCY 
          [D. Discussion – Emergency Temporary Standard Regarding COVID-19 Vaccination and Testing – Jane Meadows]
TEMPORARY STANDARDS REGARDING COVID-19 VACCINATIONS AND TESTING. 
          MS. MEADOWS. 
          I WAS GOING TO SAY EVERYONE'S FAVORITE TOPIC. 
          WELL, IT IS A HOT TOPIC, THE HOT TOPIC. 
          UM, SO I'LL GIVE EACH OF YOU A COPY OF WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT JUST IN CASE YOU DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. 
          WELL, MRS. OATES HAS THE LEAVES. 
          I HAVE THIS PAIN JOB THAT THANK YOU BECAUSE I'M, SO A LOT OF CONVERSATION HAS BEEN HAD ABOUT WHAT THE OSHA EMERGENCY TEMPER ED EMERGENCY TEMPORARY STANDARD IS GOING TO MEAN FOR COUNTIES AND STATES NATIONWIDE. 
          SO VIRGINIA IS UNIQUE. 
          WE HAVE A SAFETY STANDARD ALREADY IN PLACE THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 
          BUT WHAT THAT MEANS IS OUR STANDARD IS MORE STRINGENT THAN THE GOVERNMENT. 
          THEREFORE THEY APPROVED IT AND SAID, YES, GO BY YOUR OWN RULES. 
          HOWEVER, THE ETS THAT IS BEING DISCUSSED RIGHT NOW, UM, IS BEYOND THE VIRGINIA STANDARD. 
          SO FRIDAY OF THIS WEEK, THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT WILL ACTUALLY HEAR ARGUMENTS REGARDING THE ETS. 
          AND AT THAT POINT IT WILL GO INTO EFFECT ON MONDAY, UM, WITH VIRGINIA HAVING A CURRENT STANDARD IN PLACE, WE HAVE 30 DAYS TO THEN EITHER ADOPT THE ETS FROM OSHA OR TO REVISE OUR CURRENT PLAN AND ADD IN THE DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT ARE MISSING. 
          UM, THE CURRENT PLAN DOES NOT DESIGNATE ANYTHING REGARDING TESTING AND, UM, VACCINATIONS. 
          SO THAT'S THE BIGGEST SHIFT AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY ADDRESS AS EMPLOYERS. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE DOING ACTUALLY STARTING THIS AFTERNOON, WE'LL BE SENDING OUT COMMUNICATIONS IN ORDER TO GATHER VACCINATION STATUS FOR EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE THAT WE HAVE TO DETERMINE WHO IS AND WHO IS NOT VACCINATED AND WE'LL NEED HARD COPIES, UM, TO BACK THAT UP. 
          AND WE'LL HAVE TO MAINTAIN THOSE RECORDS FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT SIX MONTHS OF THE STANDARD. 
          AND THEN FROM SO MONDAY IS THE, I GUESS GO LIVE DATE FOR THE 
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VACCINATION STATUS, BUT THE ACTUAL TESTING PORTION DOESN'T GO LIVE UNTIL FEBRUARY. 
          UM, SO WITH VIRGINIA, WE KIND OF SHIFT BACK ABOUT 30 DAYS. 
          UM, SO ANYONE WHO IS UNVACCINATED WOULD HAVE TO BE TESTED WEEKLY. 
          UM, WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH TYPE TESTING LOCATIONS, I THINK JUST THE GENERAL PUBLIC. 
          AND THEN IF YOU ADD ON ANY EMPLOYER WHO HAS A A HUNDRED PLUS EMPLOYEES NAIL HAVING TO GET ANYONE, UM, TESTED WEEKLY, UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN. 
          UM, WE'VE REACHED OUT TO DIFFERENT PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          THE STATE WE'VE REQUESTED OVER TWO OR 2000 RAPID TESTS FROM THEM. 
          AND THEY'RE LIKE, WE DON'T HAVE TEST, WE'RE TRYING TO GET TESTS. 
          UM, AND THEY WILL BE SENT OUT AND GIVEN BASICALLY IN ORDER OF PRIORITY AND HEALTHCARE SYSTEMS SEEK PRIORITY AND THE SCHOOLS. 
          AND SO WE ARE LOWER DOWN ON THE LIST. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, SO BASICALLY EACH EMPLOYER IS HAVING TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THEY CAN EITHER DO THEIR OWN TESTING OR PARTNER WITH SOMEONE IN ORDER TO DO TESTING. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN BRAINSTORMING, WHETHER IT'S, WE HAVE A DESIGNATED SITE LOCATION AND WE PURCHASE, UM, RAPID TESTS AND THEN HAVE PEOPLE COME IN ON A DESIGNATED DAY IN ORDER TO GET TESTED. 
          UM, WE'RE WHETHER WE'RE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH VALLEY HEALTH OR A DIFFERENT PROVIDER, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE ALSO TRYING TO WORK THROUGH. 
          SO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO BASICALLY TEST OUR EMPLOYEES RIGHT NOW. 
          THEY'RE NOT SURE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT IT AS WELL ON, SO THIS IS MORE GRAY AREA. 
          UM, AND IT'S A VERY SHORT TIMEFRAME FOR EVERYONE. 
          AND LUCKILY IN VIRGINIA, WE HAVE 30 DAYS TO BASICALLY FIGURE IT OUT AND GET IT TOGETHER. 
          HARD COPY TESTS. 
          CAN YOU ACCEPT A PHOTOCOPY OF, OR DO YOU HAVE TO SEE IT AND THEN YOUR OWN SCAN? SO WE WOULD ACTUALLY NEED A HEART. 
          BASICALLY, IF SOMEONE TOOK A PICTURE OF IT, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A TIMESTAMP ON IT OR WE CAN DO. 
          SO IF SOMEONE DID A TEST AT HOME, UM, IT CAN'T BE SELF ADMINISTERED IN SELF READ. 
          UM, SO IF SOMEONE DID AN AT HOME TEST, UM, AND WE WERE ON SKYPE AND SOMEONE WATCHED THEM ACTUALLY TEST IT, DO IT 15 MINUTES LATER, THERE WAS A RESULT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCEPT WITH AN AFFIDAVIT SAYING, YES, I SAW THIS PERSON TAKE THE TEST AND THEY CAME BACK NEGATIVE. 
          UM, AND THERE ARE CERTAIN TESTS THAT IF PEOPLE COME IN, THEY CAN TAKE THE TEST, THEY WAIT 15 MINUTES, YOU GET THE RESULTS. 
          UM, YOU'RE SIGNING AN AFFIDAVIT AFFIDAVIT THAT YOU VIEWED THE RESULTS, EVEN THOUGH THEY ADMINISTERED IT THEMSELVES. 
          UM, OR IT COULD BE A NOTE FROM A DOCTOR'S OFFICE THAT, YOU KNOW, JANE WAS IN THE OFFICE TODAY AND SHE CAME BACK NEGATIVE FOR COVID. 
          WELL, I MEAN, I'VE, IF I'VE GOT A THREE, IF I'M TAKING MY BOTH SHOTS AND MY BOOSTER, I HAVE A, I HAVE A PAPER, SORRY. 
          YES. 
          FOR THE VACCINATION, I WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A HARD COPY OF THE VACCINATION RECORD. 
          SO IF SOMEONE HAS LOST THEIR VACCINATION CARD, THEY CAN REQUEST A COPY OF IT THROUGH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO HAVE A HARD COPY ON FILE FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEE WHO IS VACCINATED. 
          AND IF THEY DON'T PROVIDE THAT, THEN WHEN THEY'RE CONSIDERED ON VACCINATED, OKAY. 
          I HAVE TO RE I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO RELINQUISH MY CARD TO YOU, OR YOU CAN DO, YOU CAN MAKE A COPY OF IT FRONT AND BACK BECAUSE THE INFORMATION IS ON BOTH SIDES. 
          UM, AND WE WOULD ACCEPT THAT OR SOMEONE COULD TAKE A PICTURE OF IT AND EMAIL IT OR TEXT IT TO US. 
          UM, WE DO ALLOW THAT NOW FOR THE WEEKLY, THAT IS ASYMPTOMATIC, CORRECT. 
          IF SOMEBODY, UM, TEST IN OR THEY'RE SUSPECTED, THEN WE TREAT IT AS SOMEBODY WHO ACTUALLY HAS IT. 
          UM, AND THEN FOR THE FIVE DAYS TEST, AND THEN IF IT'S NEGATIVE, THEY CAN COME BACK THE WORK. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN WE STILL HAVE THEM CONTINUE TO WEAR A MASK. 
          RIGHT? YEAH. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT UNVACCINATED IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE TESTED WEEKLY, NO MATTER SYMPTOMS OR NOT, AND MASK ALL THE TIME. 
          THE ONLY EXCEPTIONS WOULD BE IF THEY WORK A HUNDRED PERCENT OUTSIDE, UM, THEN THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO WEAR A MASK. 
          UM, BUT IF THEY SPEND MORE THAN 10% OF THEIR TIME INSIDE A BUILDING, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO, OR IN A VEHICLE, RIGHT. 
          IF THEY'RE IN A VEHICLE WITH ANOTHER PERSON, IF BOTH OF THEM ARE NOT VACCINATED, THEY HAVE TO WEAR MASKS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THAT ONLY IN COUNTY VEHICLES OR DOES THAT INCLUDE THEIR PERSONAL, IT IS IN ONLY COUNTY VEHICLES OR WHEN THEY'RE ON THE CLOCK. 
          SO IF THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF WORK, SPENDING TIME WITH COWORKER, THEY DO NOT. 
          UM, BUT WHEN THEY'RE ON THE CLOCK, THEY DO. 
          OKAY. 
          IN THAT CASE, WE ALLOWED TO GET SICK WHEN YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          YOU'RE ONLY 
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ABLE TO GET IN AT HOME. 
          OKAY. 
          IF, IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH GETTING SOMEONE TO SAY, I'LL BE TESTED WEEKLY. 
          SO REPERCUSSION, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO COME BACK TO WORK UNTIL THEY'VE BEEN TESTED. 
          UM, SO THAT IS WHERE PART OF THE MANDATE IS WE HAVE TO SHOW THAT WE ARE ENFORCING IT. 
          UM, SO IF THERE ARE NO REPERCUSSIONS, THEN WE'RE VIOLATING IT. 
          UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO HAVE TO HOLD THE TEAM ACCOUNTABLE AND ENSURE THAT THEY'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING. 
          REMIND THE QUESTION IS AT THIS POINT, HOW DO WE MEET THE STANDARDS OF WEEKLY TESTING WHEN THERE'S NO TEST KITS? RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE'S NOT, I CHECKED, UM, FOR SOMEONE LAST WEEK I WENT TO CHARLOTTESVILLE TO THE DOCTOR. 
          I WENT TO EVERY PHARMACY I COULD FIND DOWN THERE. 
          THEY ALL TOLD ME THE SAME THING. 
          RIGHT. 
          DON'T HAVE THEM, DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO GET THEM. 
          I CHECKED ALL THE WAY, YOU KNOW, COMING BACK HOME, NOBODY HAS SOME IT'S IT'S AND THIS ISN'T JUST LOCAL IT'S NATIONWIDE. 
          SO THE PRESIDENT DID IMPLEMENT AN EMERGENCY ORDER IN ORDER TO RAMP UP PRODUCTION. 
          HOWEVER, WITH SUPPLY CHAIN CHALLENGES, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE AS TO WHEN THAT WILL HAPPEN, RIGHT. 
          THE ORDER. 
          BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S, SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN WITH OSHA? THEY WANT TO SEE THAT EMPLOYERS ARE MAKING A GOOD FAITH EFFORT. 
          SO IF YOU'RE COMPLYING WITH ALL THE OTHER ASPECTS, AND I THINK THAT'S ALSO WHY THERE'S THE DELAY UNTIL FEBRUARY FOR TESTING, BECAUSE THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS AN INFLUX OF PEOPLE WHO AREN'T CURRENTLY GETTING TESTED, GOING INTO THAT GROUP. 
          UM, AND REALLY IT CAN'T BE SUPPORTED RIGHT NOW, FOUR FOR RIGHT NOW, JUST FOR EMPLOYEE SAFETY REASONS. 
          IF SAY I HAVE SYMPTOMS, A FEW OF THEM, MAYBE NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT WHATEVER, A PARTICULAR SYMPTOM, UM, I CAN'T GET TESTED. 
          I'M NOT. 
          YEAH, WELL I'M VACCINATED, BUT SAY I WASN'T VACCINATED. 
          WHAT DO WE DO? DO WE TELL THEM THEY HAVE TO STAY HOME FIVE DAYS, WE PRESENT PRESUMED THEM AS POSITIVE. 
          SORRY. 
          I WAS GOING TO SAY THERE'S WATER AND A COUPLE OF THINGS YOU NEED DRINK. 
          I KNOW HOW THAT GOES. 
          UM, NOW HOW DOES THAT WORK? UM, ARE THEY TAKEN SICK DAYS? HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH THAT? SO WITH THE COUNTY, WE PROVIDE TWO WEEKS OF PAID TIME. 
          SO IF SOMEBODY IS POSITIVE OR IF THEY'VE BEEN EXPOSED, WE PROVIDE THEM TWO WEEKS OF PAY TIME IN ORDER TO RECOVER OR QUARANTINE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR YEARS NOW. 
          SO A YEAR AND A HALF, UM, WE'RE, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY FLUID, VERY FLEXIBLE. 
          WE'RE WAITING UNTIL FEBRUARY. 
          WE'RE STILL KIND OF WAITING FOR THE COURTS TO MAKE A RULING AND STEP IN, MAKE A DECISION ON THIS. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA MAKE ALL GOOD FAITH EFFORTS. 
          IN SOME CASES WE MAY SAY, ARE THERE ARE NO, WE HAVE VERIFIED. 
          THERE IS NO TESTING KITS AVAILABLE WITHIN A 40 MILE RADIUS OR A 60 MILE RADIUS. 
          AND SO BE IT, THEN THEY'RE AT HOME. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT CAN BE WHAT WE DO. 
          WE'LL SEE. 
          I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE ABUSING NOT TO SAY ANYBODY WITH, BUT JUST HAVE TO THROW IT OUT THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WHO LIKES TO STAY HOME, MAYBE BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S GOT SOMEBODY LIKE THAT. 
          UM, SO PEOPLE GET COVID ONLY ON MONDAYS. 
          I KNOW HAVING BEEN A SUPERVISOR SOMEWHERE. 
          YEAH. 
          I KNOW HOW THAT MONDAYS AND FRIDAYS FULL. 
          UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T WANT THAT DILIGENT PERSON. 
          WHO'S WORRIED IF I DON'T GO TO WORK, I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH PAYCHECK TO PAY MY BILLS. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY NO, THE COUNTY HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE AND VERY FLEXIBLE AND ENSURING THAT WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE SICK COMING TO WORK. 
          UM, BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE AND YOU DON'T WANT IT TO THEN SPREAD THROUGH A DEPARTMENT BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO COME TO WORK BECAUSE I WAS AFRAID OR I DIDN'T WANT TO MISS WORK. 
          CAUSE I WAS AFRAID I WAS GOING TO GET PAID. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT'S A TWO-EDGED SWORD ON THAT ONE. 
          YEAH, DEFINITELY. 
          SO, SO WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO LET THE EMPLOYEES KNOW? SO I'LL BE SENDING OUT A COMMUNICATION THIS AFTERNOON REGARDING THE VACCINATION STATUS AND GATHERING THAT INFORMATION. 
          AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE INFORMATION ATTACHED REGARDING THE STANDARDS AND THE COMMUNICATION 
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THAT NEEDS TO BE SENT TO EACH EMPLOYEE AND BASICALLY GIVE THEM AN OVERVIEW OF THE TIMELINE AND EXPLAINING THAT THERE IS SOME FLUIDITY, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S CONFUSING WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING ON THE NEWS. 
          AND BECAUSE YOU'RE IN VIRGINIA, NOT IN A DIFFERENT AREA, WE'RE A LITTLE DIFFERENT. 
          UM, SO THERE ARE SOME NUANCES THAT THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND. 
          SO THEY'RE NOT LIKE, OH, MY EMPLOYER IS NOT COMPLIANT OR THEY'RE VIOLATING THE LAW. 
          RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE WE ARE DIFFERENT, WHICH DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO BE, UM, RECEIVING ANY COMMENTS FROM THE EMPLOYEES. 
          SO THEY, ANYTIME THERE IS AN ISSUE OR CONCERN, IT GOES THROUGH THE CHAIN OF COMMAND. 
          SO THERE IS A DESIGNATED REPORTER IN EACH DEPARTMENT WHO RECEIVES, UM, BASICALLY ANY COVID ISSUES ON MOST TIME, IT'S A SUPERVISOR WHO, UM, SO LIKE IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, IT'S, UM, LIEUTENANT BAKI, HE GETS ALL OF THE REPORTS AND HAS TO SUBMIT ALL OF THAT. 
          SO IN THERE AND TRACKS HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE OUT WHEN THEY COME BACK. 
          SO ANYTIME SOMETHING COMES UP, THEN IT WOULD CONTINUE TO BE COMMUNICATED TO THE SAME PERSON. 
          UM, SO IT'S A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT. 
          IT MAKES IT EASIER TO ENSURE THAT INFORMATION IS NOT BEING LOST. 
          SO IT'D BE INTERESTING TO KNOW ONCE YOU'VE COMPILED, WHO'S BEEN VACCINATED, I DON'T NEED TO KNOW NAMES OR ANYTHING, BUT JUST, UM, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF EACH DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN VACCINATED. 
          UM, AND IT'S, I SAID IT WOULD REALLY BE INTERESTING TO SEE ONCE THEY START COMPILING, WHICH VACCINE HAS HAD THE BEST OVERALL PROTECTION AND SO FORTH THAT I NEED, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE OR WHAT NOT TO, UM, AND ALL THE CRAZINESS THAT YOU, YOU HEAR WITH STUFF. 
          BUT I'M HOPING THAT SOMETIME WE, WE LEARNED THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE WITH THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT TYPES OF VACCINES OUT THERE, WELL, IN THE HARD PART AND THE, PROBABLY THE FRUSTRATING PART WITH THIS IS THIS IS SIMPLY THE VACCINES. 
          IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BOOSTERS. 
          SO IF YOU RECEIVE THE INITIAL EITHER TWO PART OR ONE PART VACCINE, THEN YOU'RE CONSIDERED FULLY VACCINATED. 
          BUT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN OVER A YEAR AGO, UM, IN SOME CASES, SO WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO THEY SHOULD GET BOOSTERS, BUT THEY HAVEN'T. 
          AND, BUT THEY'RE STILL CONSIDERED FULLY VACCINATED ACCORDING TO THEM. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, I I'VE GOTTEN THE BOOSTER. 
          I'LL HAVE TO SAY FIRST TWO, DIDN'T BOTHER ME AT ALL SACRIFICE. 
          WE'RE NOT BAD, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR THOSE THAT DON'T, AND, AND I CERTAINLY DON'T PUSH PEOPLE. 
          THAT'S THAT'S LIKE RELIGION TO ME, IT'S YOUR CHOICE. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU PICK WHICH RELIGION AND I'M NOT NOBODY, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY SHOVING IT DOWN MY THROAT AND I DON'T WANT TO DO THE OTHER, BUT WOW. 
          THIS THE LAST SIX MONTHS I HAVE, I KNOW MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE SERIOUSLY ILL OR HAVE DIED AND IT'S THEN THE WHOLE FIRST YEAR TOGETHER. 
          SO I GUESS THAT'S MY, MY THOUGHT OF WHO GOT WHAT VACCINE AND WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? SO WE MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICES THERE. 
          IF YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO DO THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, OUR, OUR SAMPLE WOULD BE VERY SMALL. 
          OH, I KNOW. 
          I KNOW. 
          I WAS JUST SAYING, I JUST WAS WONDERING, CAUSE I KNOW THE DAY I GOT VACCINATED, WE HAVE PRETTY GOOD TURNOUT. 
          I THOUGHT COUNTY-WIDE SO I WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT TOOK ADVANTAGE OF GETTING THAT, BUT I MEAN, NATIONALLY, I'M HOPING THEY COME ACROSS WITH SOME NUMBERS WE CAN BELIEVE ON US NUMBERS THAT, RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO YOU CAN MAKE A CHOICE. 
          WELL, I WAS GOING TO GET PFIZER, BUT MAYBE THE MADONNA DID A LITTLE BETTER. 
          SO I'LL GO THAT ROUTE. 
          UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOPE. 
          DOESN'T LOOK LIKE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          [E. Discussion – Sheriff’s Office Training Area – Sheriff Mark Butler]
SHARE BUTLER. 
          YOU'VE BEEN HERE ALMOST AS LONG AS I HAVE. 
          WE HAVE BEEN TRAINING FLIGHTS AND I DID MY RESEARCH GOING TO AS MANY DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY. 
          UH, AND ASHLEY CAN TALK A MINUTE ON MR. PETTY. 
          WE FIND THAT THE BEST AREA FOR US. 
          IF YOU TURN IT THIS WAY, THAT'S THE I'M NOT TRYING TO BUILD. 
          LET'S, LET'S BE 100% CLEAR. 
          BLESS YOU. 
          I AM NOT TRYING TO BUILD IT IN ACADEMY. 
          ALL I WANT TO DO IS HAVE AN AREA TO WHERE WE CAN TRAIN RIGHT NOW. 
          AT VERY 
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MINIMUM, WE SPEND 20 TO $30,000 A YEAR JUST IN TRAVEL TO GO QUALIFY, TO GO, UM, TRAIN MONTHLY WITH TAC, OUR CANINES, UM, FIRE, FIREARMS, QUALIFICATIONS, AND SO FORTH. 
          NOT HAVING OUR OWN FACILITY PUTS US IN. 
          UM, DECISION-MAKING IN AND TIME OF WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS, OTHER COUNTIES, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR US. 
          IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO CONTROL OUR OVERTIME FOR TRAINING AND BUDGETING. 
          UM, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS WE DON'T TRAIN PROPERLY AND WE JUST CONSTANTLY MEET MINIMUM STANDARDS IN THE CODE. 
          WE WILL SIT AND FIND OURSELVES IN AN AREA WHERE WE ARE LIABLE, FAILURE TO TRAIN. 
          UM, AND WE, YOU DON'T EVER WANT TO BE IN THAT. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE TRYING TO DO IS CONTINUE TO GROW OUR IN-HOUSE TRAINING OVER THE YEARS TO LAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE DEVELOPED GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH HAIDA AND SO FORTH, BRINGING TRAINING TO OUR FACILITY, OPPOSED TO HAVING TO GO OUT. 
          WE'RE STARTING TO BRING THESE INSTRUCTORS IN. 
          NOW THIS FACILITY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO IS HAVE ONE, HAVE A CANINE TRAINING AREA. 
          UH, AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF, WE HAVE PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE ADVANCED CANINE PROGRAMS IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA. 
          RIGHT NOW, WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE TO GET AHEAD OF IT. 
          WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE TO WORK WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES TO GET THE CANINES THAT WE HAVE. 
          THEY'VE ALREADY SAVED LAWS. 
          THEY'VE ALREADY TAKEN MANY, MANY DRUGS OFF THE STREET. 
          UM, BUT EVERY WEEK OR SO, TWICE A MONTH, OUR CANINE OFFICERS ARE HAVING TO GO OUT OF COUNTY TO GO TRAIN. 
          THAT CAUSES FUELS THAT CALL. 
          IT PUTS WEAR AND TEAR ON OUR VEHICLES PUTS A TIME DRIVING. 
          UM, EACH YEAR WE QUALIFY ONCE A YEAR, WE MANDATORY MINIMUM IS TO QUALIFY, UH, AT THE SHOOTING RANGE, WE'VE BEEN USING RANGES ALL OVER THE VALLEY. 
          UM, AND WE WERE CONSTANTLY REACHING OUT TO DIFFERENT AREAS. 
          SO WE'VE, I'VE HAD MANY OF OUR FIREARMS INSTRUCTORS DEVELOP. 
          LOOK AT THESE SITES. 
          WE'VE ALL BEEN THERE. 
          WE'VE GONE THERE. 
          ESA LANE WOULD BE A GREAT AREA, UM, AS WELL, BUT THE BROWNTOWN AREA WE KNOW TO BE IT THERE'S SEVERAL PROS TO IT. 
          ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE WANT TO ADD IN THIS AREA OR AREAS THAT ARE DEDICATED TO US IS AN IMPOUND LOT. 
          HOW'S THAT IMPORTANT. 
          FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE A VEHICLE AT OUR LOT RIGHT NOW, AND WE, AS MANY OF Y'ALL HAVE SEEN IN OUR LOT, WE'RE PRETTY FULL IN THAT BACK LOT. 
          BUT IF WE GET A RECOVERY STOLEN VEHICLE AND WE'RE HOLDING IT FOR AN INSURANCE COMPANY, IT HAS TO BE SECURED. 
          WE CAN ALSO HOLD AND DO STORAGE FEES. 
          WE'RE GETTING READY TO CHARGE, UH, SEND GEICO A BILL FOR ABOUT $1,500. 
          I BELIEVE FOR STORING THAT VEHICLE I'LL RECOVER STOLEN VEHICLE. 
          WE WANT THOSE MONIES TO GO BACK TO PAYING OUR TRAINING FACILITY. 
          UH, I KNOW THE BOARD IS GOING TO ASK ME HOW MUCH MONEY ARE YOU WANTING TO SHERIFF TO BUILD THIS TRAINING FACILITY BARI REACHED OUT. 
          WE BELIEVE WE WERE NOT ASKING FOR ANY MONEY RIGHT NOW. 
          I'M NOT SAYING I'LL NEVER ASK. 
          I'M NOT SAYING I'LL NEVER ASK. 
          BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW IS WE KNOW WE CAN BUILD WITH RAILROAD TIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT DONATED BY THE RAILROAD. 
          WE'VE WE'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT. 
          WE'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO LOWE'S. 
          WE'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO CONCRETE COMPANIES AND SO FORTH. 
          UM, MANY OF OUR PEOPLE ON OUR DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING MYSELF, HAVE A TRACTOR WITH A BUCKET BUSHELS AND WHATEVER WE'LL MAINTAIN IT. 
          OUR BIGGEST PART IS GOING TO BE FENCING. 
          AND I TALKED TO, UM, THE BUS SHOP THE LOT OVER AT ESA LANE. 
          THEY HAVE FENCING UP THERE THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY USE AND REFURBISH. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY DO IS HAVE AN AREA THAT'S SECURE THAT ISN'T AS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AS SOME MIGHT WANT IT TO BE. 
          I REALLY DON'T WANT IT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. 
          UH, THE REASON WHY I DON'T WANT IT UP INTO THE PUBLIC, I DON'T WANT INDIVIDUALS. 
          THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS WE DO. 
          I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC, SEEING OUR TACTICS JUST TO MAINTAIN OUR SAFETY AND SECURITY. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED, 
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WELL, WE HAVE PROTECTIVE MASS, ANYONE IN THE MILITARY, OR IT'S JUST LIKE A SCOTT AIR PACK, RIGHT? FOR FIRE AND RESCUE. 
          WE GO INTO, WE PUT GAS, OUR SWAT TEAM GOES INTO A BUILDING AND THERE'S GAS. 
          UM, WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD AN AREA TO TRAIN SHOOT, PUT, PUT OUR PEOPLE THROUGH THAT GAS SCENARIO TO SEE US THERE, MASS EVEN FITS THAT'S BAD. 
          UH, I JUST REALIZED THIS, UH, PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AGO. 
          SO THERE ARE A LOT OF MANY THINGS THAT WE NEED TO GET BETTER AT IN THE WARREN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          AND I'VE SAID IT THREE YEARS AGO AND TRAINING'S ONE OF THEM. 
          SO I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING REALLY IN PARTICULAR, EXCEPT FOR A PLACE THAT WE CAN SECURE OFF, PUT OUR CONTACTS, OUR SHED, OR WHATEVER, HAVE IT THERE AND DEVELOP A TRAINING FACILITY AREA SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          THAT'S WHAT I ASKED BEFORE. 
          UM, AND WE WERE LOOKING AT SOME LAND AROUND BROWNTOWN. 
          THE COUNTY WAS DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE GOING TO PURCHASE LAND. 
          UM, AS I LOOK AT IT AND I'VE BEEN DOWN TO OBVIOUSLY BEEN DOWN THERE QUITE A FEW TIMES, UM, AS YOU COME IN TO THE LEFT, YOU HAVE THE BUILDING TO THE LEFT AND TO THE RIGHT, YOU HAVE ALL THE CONTAINERS WE WANT KIND OF THE AREA OVER TO THE LEFT. 
          THAT'S REALLY NEVER GOING TO BE USED AGAIN. 
          WE CAN GO BACK IN THAT AREA. 
          WE COULD PUT IN A SIX LANE FIRE, FIRE LANE. 
          IT WILL HAVE A BACKSTOP OF, UM, OF THE MOUNTAIN. 
          UM, AND THERE'S NO RESIDENCE OVER IN THAT AREA. 
          THE I'M SORRY, THE GOOD PART ABOUT IT. 
          AND THEN I'LL GET IT TO YOU. 
          IS THERE'S 24 7 NOW NOT 24 7, BUT THERE'S AT LEAST SOMEONE ON THAT SITE EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK FOR THE MOST PART AND IT'S FENCE. 
          UM, SO, AND WE'LL WORK ON MAKING IT EVEN MORE SECURE ONCE WE GET TO THAT PART. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU SAID THAT DOWN THERE THERE'S NO ONE IN, IN THE AREA OR NO, NO. 
          ADJACENT PEOPLE REAL CLOSE, CORRECT? WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE CLOSEST, UH, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET FROM SHANGRI-LA HAS A GRAY BEFORE YOU TURN LEFT OR RIGHT TO GO IN. 
          YOU HAVE THE ONE HOME OVER THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          OUR HOMES BACK THERE, BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO SAY IT'S GATED SO YOU CAN'T GET BACK. 
          UM, THERE'S THE FIRST HOUSE. 
          WHEN YOU CROSS THE CULVERT, THAT'S UP ON THE HILL, THEN YOU GO BACK, THERE'S A COUPLE MORE ON THAT SIDE. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, AND RIGHT. 
          THERE'S ONE ON WOULD BE UP IN THIS AREA BEFORE YOU GET TO WHERE THE GATE IS, AND IT'S AN ARM GATE, LIKE THE RAILROAD TRACKS. 
          SO I HAVEN'T BEEN BEYOND THAT, BUT I KNOW THERE ARE HOUSES WITH WHERE THEY ARE DISTANCE WISE, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR BULLETS WOULD TRAVEL. 
          I DON'T KNOW, BUT THERE ARE HOUSES THERE. 
          NO, I'M NOT SO MUCH WORRIED ABOUT THE BULLETS TRAVELING. 
          I AM MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE NOISE BECAUSE HAVING A 45 PISTOL GO OFF OR A 38 OR WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING TO USE, IT SOUNDS LIKE A CANON AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE BACKED UP AGAINST A MOUNTAIN AND THAT MOUNTAIN IS GOING TO PROJECT THAT BACK OVER ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. 
          AND I DON'T CARE IF WE DO IT, OR IF WE DON'T DO IT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NOISE COMPLAINT. 
          WELL, I WOULD I NOT GOING TO DISAGREE WITH YOU. 
          I DEAL WITH THE NOISE COMPLAINTS EVERY SINGLE DAY. 
          UM, THE PROBLEM IS I, I DON'T BELIEVE OUR COUNTY'S READY TO BUILD AN INSIDE RANGE. 
          UM, AND THE TIME WE DO SHOOT, IT'S REALLY NOT AT, IT'S NOT AT NIGHT, IT'S NOT DURING LATE HOURS. 
          IT'S MOSTLY DURING THE DAY WAS WHEN WE SHOOT, WE DO HAVE A LOW LIGHT SHOOTING THAT WE DO. 
          UM, AND WHAT I'M, THAT IS MY END GOAL IS TO GET A SIX LANE SHOOTING RANGE, SIX TO 10 LANES. 
          I'M NOT ASKING FOR IT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE ONCE WE DECIDE ON WHERE WE WANT TO PUT IT. 
          BUT WHAT THING I DO NEED RIGHT NOW IS THAT AREA THAT I CAN MAKE A PARKING LOT OUT OF, PUT A FENCE AROUND IT FOR AN IMPOUND LOT, PUT UP A WALL FOR, UM, MY CANINES TO TRAIN IN SOME OBSTACLES TO CARS OR WHAT HAVE YOU BUSES SO THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY SERVE, UM, SEARCH SAFELY AND SECURELY. 
          UM, THESE ARE THE THINGS AS WE PROGRESS. 
          SO I DIDN'T WANT TO COME UP HERE AND TELL YOU THAT I WASN'T LOOKING TO HAVE A FIREARM RANGE CAUSE I AM. 
          BUT IF YOU CAME UP AND SAID SIX MONTHS FROM NOW OR A YEAR FROM NOW, SHERIFF, WE DON'T WANT TO PUT A RANGE THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
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I STILL HAVE A TRAINING AREA THAT I CAN TRAIN SIMUNITIONS AIRSOFT TACTICS, GAS CHAMBER, OR SO FORTH. 
          THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS USE MY CONTACTS IN MY PARKING LOT FOR GAS AND THE WIND BLOW IT DOWNHILL AND DUES WOODGROVE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S, THESE ARE THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          I AGREE WITH YOU WELL WITH THE, UM, OR SERVE WITH THE, UH, WITH THE FIRING RANGE DEPTH, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER MESS. 
          HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD YOU HAVE SHOOTING AT ONE? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING WITH A SIX LANE RANGE, YOU'D ONLY HAVE SIX, SIX PEOPLE SHOOTING AT A TIME. 
          TYPICALLY YOU WOULD IT DOWN INTO IT. 
          WE TYPICALLY BREAK IT DOWN INTO NO SHOOTING WEEK. 
          SO WE HAVE A WEEK OF TRAINING THAT WAY WHEN THEY'RE OFF OR THE LAST HOUR OR TWO OF THEIR SHIFTS, THEY CAN DRIVE THERE, CUT US ON OVERTIME. 
          UM, AND IT'S IN OUR COUNTY. 
          WE CAN DRIVE THERE, SHOOT QUALIFIED AND GO BACK, UH, NEW RECRUITS COMING IN. 
          WE'RE GOING, THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIGGEST ISSUES. 
          WE HAVE A, IF WE GET LATERALS, WE HAVE TO FIND A RANGE BEFORE I CAN EVEN GIVE THEM A GUN AND GO TO WORK TO GO TRAIN. 
          SO WE'RE AT THE LE THE LEISURE OF EVERY COUNTY AROUND OUR CLOSEST ONE, WE'VE BEEN USING THE TWO HAVE BEEN FREDERICK COUNTY IN LURAY. 
          UM, AND BOTH OF THEM ARE A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET TO, UH, TO AND FROM, HEY MAN, MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY SAY THAT THE, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THIS WAS A, A DISCUSSION FOR A PUBLIC FIRING RANGE, THAT'D BE ONE THING. 
          BUT IF THIS IS A DISCUSSION FOR, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SAFETY AND SUPPORTING THE PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, IF, IF THIS WAS IN, IN MY AREA AND MY CONSTITUENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, WERE, THEY WOULD COMPLAIN ABOUT THE NOISE. 
          I WOULD LOOK AT THEM AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS FOR YOUR GOOD, THIS IS FOR YOUR PROTECTION. 
          WELL, ONE AND I DO AGREE THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO COMPLAINS THE ONE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS AREA IS THAT IT IS A RURAL AREA AND PEOPLE ARE USED TO HUNTING. 
          SO IT'S NOT ESA LANE, NO WAY THAT COMMUNITY WOULD TEAR US UP. 
          RIGHT. 
          I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU. 
          MA'AM AND THAT'S WHY I LOOKED AT THE, BOTH AT THE TWO, CAUSE WE LOOKED AT ANOTHER ONE AND IT'S JUST, YOU LOOK AT ESA LANE AND YOU HAVE THESE VEHICLES COMING UP THAT ONE ACCESS ROAD CONSTANTLY IT'S WAY TOO MUCH. 
          AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. 
          NO, BUT AT THE, AT THE DUMP, WE IT'S IT'S LAND THAT WE CAN RECYCLE IT'S LAND THAT REALLY ISN'T GOING TO BE USED AGAIN, YOU KNOW, FOR A LONG TIME. 
          UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO SET UP A RANGE. 
          UH, MR. MO, UH, MS HAS MADE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE WOULD HAVE TO DO. 
          WE'VE TALKED, REACHED OUT TO NRA, BUT WE'VE GOT TO AT SOME POINT IN TIME PUT THE, EITHER THE EGG OR THE CHICKEN FIRST. 
          AND THAT'S KINDA, WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO NOW IS I JUST NEED, NEED A PLACE THAT WE CAN START. 
          I WOULD LOVE FOR IT TO GO TO WHERE WE CAN PUT A FIRING RANGE THERE, BUT AT MINIMUM, I NEED A PLACE THAT I CAN DO. 
          CIVIL UNREST TACTICS. 
          I CAN DO ENTRY TACTICS. 
          OUR SWAT TEAM GETS USED QUITE FREQUENTLY. 
          OUR DOGS GET USED QUITE FREQUENTLY AND TO TRY TO DO IT ALL AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, IT'S ALMOST VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE. 
          IT REALLY IS. 
          IT, WE TRY, WE, WE REALLY HAVE, AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING, THE, A OBSTACLE COURSE FOR THE SWAT TEAM IS UP ON THE HILL BEHIND THE BUILDING, BUT IT'S, IT'S REALLY A MESS THERE. 
          UM, WE NEED EVERYTHING IN ONE AREA THAT WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY BRIEF, WE CAN TRAIN, WE CAN, WE CAN GET THE BUILDINGS DONATED. 
          AND WE KNOW HOW HARD ROBERT LIEUTENANT SILVER WORKS FOR GETTING THINGS DONATED. 
          HE DOES A GREAT JOB. 
          UM, AND OUR GUYS HAVE REALLY REACHED OUT. 
          A LOT OF TIMES, YOU'LL FIND SOMEONE WHO HAS, UM, A SEA CONTAINER SOMEPLACE. 
          THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE IT. 
          AND THEN THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET RID OF IT. 
          SO IF YOU'VE RUN INTO ONE OF THOSE ROBBIE, YOU'RE REALLY DOING WHAT'S RIGHT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS PERSONALLY TO ME, OUT OF EVERY PLACE I COULD THINK IN THE COUNTY, UM, MAKES THE MOST SENSE BECAUSE IT IS A LARGE AREA THERE. 
          THAT'S BASICALLY NOT BEING USED. 
          UM, EXCEPT FOR WE DO CONTRACT IT OUT ONCE A YEAR. 
          I THINK THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKE HAY OFF IT TWICE. 
          UM, WHICH MAJORITY OF IT COULD, YOU KNOW, IT'S, TO ME, IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT TALKING ABOUT 
          [02:00:01]
FIGURING OUT, UH, IF YOU HAD COME TO ME AND SAID, I WANT YOU TO BUILD ME $400,000 TRAINING ROOM. 
          I HAD A LAUGHED YOU OUT OF THE ROOM BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW IT'S NOT AN UNREALISTIC ASK, BUT WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE SAID TODAY? YOU KNOW, IF YOU TAKE YOUR CARS UP THERE AND IMPOUND CARS, AND WE FIGURE THAT OUT AND YOU RUN YOUR DOG, YOU HIDE YOUR STUFF AND YOU RUN YOUR DOGS AND THAT'S NOT A COSTLY THING TO HAVE HERE. 
          NO, MA'AM ACTUALLY IN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WE HAVE THE METAL CARPORT. 
          THAT'S SITTING AT THE COURTHOUSE RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, WE WOULD PROBABLY IN TIME PURCHASE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT, AND THEN PUT T 11, IF WE CAN GET THAT DONATED BY 84 LUMBER OR LOWE'S OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, PUT T 11 AROUND IT TO MAKE A TRAINING AREA, MAKE AN AWNING. 
          IT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          WE'RE NOT, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO BUILD ME A BUILDING. 
          I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO DO ANY OF THAT. 
          ONLY THING I'M ASKING IS TO ALLOCATE LAND FOR US. 
          AND WE, WE, WE THINK WE NEED ABOUT 10 ACRES. 
          THAT WAY WE CAN SEPARATE IT. 
          WE CAN DO TRACKS OUR CANINES, OUR BLOODHOUNDS DO UP TO TWO TO THREE MILE TRACKS. 
          UM, AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN AREAS THAT, WELL, LET'S BE HONEST, AREN'T QUITE SO SAFE WHEN THEY'RE FIRST TRAINING AND TRYING DIFFERENT TACTICS. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY JUST ASKING FOR RIGHT NOW. 
          YOU GO TO FREDERICK COUNTY, DOESN'T FREDERICK COUNTY USE THEIR LANDFILL SITE. 
          THEY DO IT'S ON THE IT'S ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF IT. 
          AND I BELIEVE, UM, LURAY ACTUALLY USES THEIR WATER TREATMENT PLANT. 
          OKAY. 
          I THOUGHT MY, MY SON'S FREDERICK COUNTY AND I THOUGHT THAT'S WHERE HE SAID THEY WERE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT. 
          YEAH. 
          IN THAT AREA. 
          AND THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME HOMES THERE THAT THEY'VE RUN INTO THE ISSUES WITH. 
          AND WHEN I SAY THERE'S NO HOMES THERE, NOW I KNOW THERE'S HOMES THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS NOWHERE NEAR LIKE ESA LANE, UM, IT'S NOWHERE NEAR ESA AND I'VE TALKED TO, YOU KNOW, MR. KELLER AND SOME OF THE OTHERS ON ESA LANE. 
          AND THEY WERE LIKE, OH NO, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT. 
          CAUSE YOU'D PUSH THE DEER TOWARDS OUR PROPERTY. 
          BUT OH, I THOUGHT HE MIGHT BE THE ONE THAT WAS FRAYED. 
          YOU'D RUN THE DEER AWAY FROM HIM. 
          NA YOU KNOW, UM, AND ESA CA I DO LIKE THE AREA, BUT I'D ALSO TALKED TO ERIN. 
          AND THEN FROM THE BUS SHOP, WE CAN TAKE SOME OF THOSE OLD BUSES THAT THEY ONLY GET PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR FOR, FOR WHEN THEY CRUSH THEM AND ACTUALLY USE THEM FOR STORAGE AREAS, TRAINING FACILITY, AND STUFF. 
          SO WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO FIND DIFFERENT WAYS TO SURPLUS OUR, OR ADD TO OUR TRAINING WITHOUT COSTING THE COUNTY MONEY ACTUALLY RECYCLING THE STUFF WE HAVE. 
          SO IT GIVES US SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. 
          UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT IF YOU ALL WOULD, UH, DECIDE WHERE WE CAN PUT THIS. 
          UM, I'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THIS FOR A WHILE NOW. 
          UM, AND LIKE I SAID, WE WAITED AND I GUESS WE'RE, YOU KNOW, TOO, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION WE WERE GOING TO PURCHASE LAND UP THERE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I WAITED SO LONG, BUT WE REALLY CAN'T WAIT MUCH LONGER. 
          UH, IT WAS REALLY, WE'RE TRYING TO MINIMIZE OUR BUDGET TO WHERE WE'RE BEING MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE WITH IT. 
          AND THIS COULD HELP US OUT DRASTICALLY IN THE TRAINING ASPECT OF IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, SHERIFF. 
          MADAM CHARITY, DID YOU WANT TO TAKE A VOTE ON THIS OR, UH, WE DON'T VOTE IN WORK SESSIONS. 
          IT'S ALL DISCUSSION, BUT IT'S, YOU CAN INDICATE A CONSENSUS WHETHER WE SHOULD PROCEED. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD DO. 
          I, I AGREE. 
          SO WE'LL PROCEED TO SOMETHING TO BRING BACK TO US WITH WHERE YOU ARE. 
          UM, NO, WANT YOU TO START WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE SCOPE TO THIS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. 
          ONE THING WE ALREADY OWN THE LAND. 
          WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT MONEY IN TO DOING THAT. 
          WHAT KIND OF SCOPE WOULD YOU BE EXPECTING TO SEE WHEN HE'S TALKING ABOUT CONTAINERS AND CARS AND TO, FOR ME TO HAVE KIND OF A LAY OF WHAT HIS K9 TRAINING AREA WOULD LOOK LIKE, HOW MUCH AREA IT WOULD TAKE UP, BECAUSE EVEN, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS AREA IS A STUMP AREA, RIGHT? UM, WHERE THEY TAKE LIKE A V DOT HAS A LOT OF TREES AND STUFF, WHICH I'M SURE THEY'VE BEEN HAULING STUFF IN THERE SINCE YESTERDAY, THEY TAKE IT BACK HERE AND IT'S GROUND AND THEN BROUGHT OVER TO THIS AREA TO STORE IT, TO SELL. 
          SO, AND THEN THIS AREA, THEY'VE GOT THEIR TESTING SITES, UM, TO TEST FOR THE METHANE AND THE WATER AND ALL THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO 
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YOU HAVE TO KIND OF WORK AROUND THOSE THINGS AS WELL. 
          UM, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THIS FACILITY HERE. 
          WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERY, ALL THE KIDS CAN PLAY IN THE SANDBOX. 
          WELL TOGETHER, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS PAGE, PULL IN FROM THE ROAD THIS WAY, THERE WAS A BUILDING TO THE LEFT. 
          YEAH. 
          CAUSE THIS HAS BEEN BILL BROWN TOWN ROADS. 
          SO YOU COME IN ON BILL BROWNTOWN, COME UP AND SHANGRI-LA GOES ON PAST. 
          AND THERE'S A BACK GATE HERE TO THE MORRISON FARM. 
          OKAY. 
          LOOKING AT IS WE WANT BACK HERE WITH, IN THE POND, THAT BACK LEFT CORNER. 
          WE GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          TRUE SHOOT. 
          RIGHT IN, RIGHT IN HERE SOMEWHERE IS IT'S HARD TO SEE HERE IS THE GATE TO GO IN THE BACK WAY. 
          YES MA'AM YEP. 
          AND THAT WAY WE FIGURED WE CAN STAY OUT OF JAMIE AND THEM DOWN THERE OUT OF HER HAIR. 
          I KNOW I SOLD THEM ALL CHAIRS. 
          I CAN'T SEEM TO THINK THEY HAVE, WE CAN'T MOVE THEM OFF. 
          WELL, AND LIKE I SAID, I KNOW I'VE TAKEN DUMP TRUCK LOADS OF STUFF BACK THERE, YOU KNOW, OFF THE FARM. 
          UM, SO I KNOW NOT ONLY JUST VIDOT GOES BACK THERE, BUT OTHER PEOPLE. 
          SO LIKE I SAID, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE ON HERE OF WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THINGS. 
          SO I KNOW EVERYBODY CAN WORK WELL AND NOBODY'S, WE'RE NOT GOING TO END UP WITH PEOPLE, UNHAPPY WITH PEOPLE, CUSTOMERS COMING IN UNHAPPY. 
          I HAVEN'T HAD TO BE HONEST HERE. 
          UH, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO PLAY REALLY NICE IN THE SANDBOX ON THIS ONE FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF. 
          AND I'M NOT TRYING TO STEP ON ANYONE'S TOES. 
          I JUST, I'M TELLING YOU, YOU SAID, COME TO YOU WITH WHAT I NEED AND I'M COMING TO YOU WITH WHAT I NEED. 
          AND THIS IS THE BEST THING I CAN FIND. 
          WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS DRAW ME SOME PICTURES OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          LIKE WE DID THE LOT UP ON ESL LANE BACK OVER HERE AND THEY HAVE A LITTLE PLAT REVIEW AND MR. PETTY WILL HELP YOU DRAW IT UP AND ET CETERA, TO SHOW WHAT TO PRESENT THAT. 
          BUT WE'LL TAKE THIS LITTLE SHOW, THE USES AND THE DESCRIPTION, ET CETERA. 
          AND WE'LL TAKE IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          THEN WE'LL BRING IT TO THE BOARD. 
          AND YOU KNOW, IF, IF I WAS, UH, IF I WAS SOMEONE WHO WANTED TO CREATE SOME MISCHIEF, I'D HAVE SECOND THOUGHTS ABOUT TRYING TO DO IT ANYWHERE NEAR WHERE THE CHAIR OF HAS A TRAINING AREA IN A SHOOTING RANGE. 
          YEAH. 
          I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          I YEARS AGO, AT ONE POINT, MY, WHEN I LIVED ON ADRIAN HILL, WE HAD A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER THAT LIVED AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL. 
          WE HAD ONE HALFWAY UP THE HILL AND WE HAD ONE NEAR THE END AND WE SAID NOBODY WAS GONNA MESS WITH HIM BY ON ACRE AND HILL. 
          AND WE KIND OF LIKED THAT SECURITY FEEL. 
          SO I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          AND I THINK WE'VE SEEN THAT, UM, THERE HAS BEEN SOME MISCHIEF UP ON ESA LANE, YOU KNOW, AND I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT A CAR PERSON. 
          I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE. 
          MY HUSBAND TELL CARS FROM TIRES ANYMORE AND HEADLIGHTS, BUT I KNOW CATALYTIC CONVERTERS ARE A PRICEY ITEM. 
          SO WHEREVER YOU PUT THESE IMPOUNDED CARS, YOU GOTTA MAKE, 'EM NOT ONLY SECURE FOR YOUR LEGALITY OF WHY YOU IMPOUNDED THEM, BUT YOU DON'T WANT CATALYTIC. 
          VERNORS TAKEN OFF OF THEM EITHER. 
          WE'VE YEAH. 
          WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THAT VERY WELL, ACTUALLY. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, AS WELL AS WE DO SIT THERE AND, AND LOOK AT THIS, UM, LIKE I SAID, UH, MY GUYS HAVE REALLY WORKED OR, OR THEIR REAR ENDS OFF. 
          UM, WE HAVE DIFFERENT SITES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          MY POINT OF COMING IN HERE WITH YOU ALL IS WHEN Y'ALL DECIDE WHERE, WHERE YOU THINK WE SHOULD PUT IT, WE WILL THEN PUT FORTH THE, THE A HUNDRED, THE FULL COURT PRESS OF SHOWING YOU WHAT, WHERE WE NEED, HOW MUCH WE NEED. 
          UM, CAUSE YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE SPOKEN BEFORE, WE'RE LOOKING TO DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN TRAINING, AS FAR AS DRONE PROGRAM TETHERED OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THIS IS ANOTHER SAFE ENVIRONMENT TO DO SO. 
          UM, SO AS, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UH, IT'S PRETTY, SOME OF IT IS PROBABLY PRETTY URGENT, LIKE PUTTING A CONCEDE CONTAINER THAT WE HAVE IN OUR, OUR STORAGE AREN'T LOT RIGHT NOW AT OUR LOT, PUTTING THAT CONTAINER IN THERE. 
          SO WE CAN PRACTICE WITH OUR, WITH CHEMICALS AND SO FORTH, UM, 
          [02:10:01]
DOING ENTRIES AND WE HAVE A YOUNG DEPARTMENT, SO WE NEED A LOT OF TRAINING. 
          UM, AND IF ANY TIME I CAN SAVE AN HOUR OR TWO OR EVEN BEING IN THE COUNTY AND LET'S BE HONEST, WE'RE SITTING THERE DOING ROLL CALL. 
          THEY COULD SAY, HEY, WE'RE DOING ROLL CALL BETWEEN SIX AND SEVEN AND THEY CAN DO ROLL CALL TRAINING AT THE TRAINING SITE AND HAVE ROLL CALL THERE. 
          AND IT'S GOING TO SAVE OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SPENDING IT OVERTIME. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF ADVANTAGES TO THE SITE ITSELF. 
          IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO YOU ALL I'VE SEARCHED AND SEARCHED AND SEARCHED AND I GOTTA BE COMPLETELY UPFRONT WITH YOU. 
          THIS IS THE BEST PLACE FOR ALL OF IT. 
          UM, ESA LANE. 
          YES, IT WOULD BE GOOD CAUSE YOU'D HAVE FIRE AND RESCUE THERE AND WE CAN TRAIN TOGETHER. 
          BUT WHAT'S TO SAY, WE CAN'T FIND RESCUE THERE. 
          NO, THIS IS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT FIRE AND RESCUE THERE. 
          THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK AND SEE MR. PETTY AND GET THIS THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE THEY ALL SAID THEY WANT TO DO IT. 
          THAT'S A GOOD TIME TO STOP. 
          DON'T DON'T MESS IT UP FOR YOURSELF. 
          DOCTOR DR. 
          DALEY BEFORE, DO YOU KNOW WHERE WE STAND WITH THE PURCHASE OF THAT PROPERTY? I MEAN, I KNOW THAT WE'VE MADE THE MADE EFFORTS TO, BUT WE'RE NOW GETTING THE SURVEY AND THEY'LL PAY LEGAL PAPERS STRONG ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY APPROVE THE PURCHASE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THAT'S GOOD. 
          THIS AREA THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, WE ALREADY OWN, WE TEND TO STILL DO MAKE A GOOD, GOOD POINT HERE. 
          HE SAID, IT'S ALREADY AN AREA THAT'S NOISE FRIENDLY WITH RECYCLING CENTER, TRUCK TO TRUCK AND ALL THAT CITIZEN INPUT. 
          YEAH. 
          AS WELL, WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ALL RIGHT. 
          [F. 2022 Board and Committee Assignments – Ed Daley]
CORD ASSIGNMENTS AND COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS. 
          SO YOU HAVE THE REVISED CHART, UM, THAT WAS GIVEN TO YOU THIS MORNING AND ON IT, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL COLUMN OVER HERE THAT TELLS YOU APPROXIMATELY WHEN THEY MEET  HE ADDED THAT. 
          SO YOU COULD LOOK AT THAT AND HAVE THAT AS A, UH, KIND OF A FOCAL POINT. 
          AND OUR THREE NEW COMMITTEES ARE ON HERE. 
          SO IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE THESE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR ASSIGNMENTS WOULD LIKE TO BE AND CONTACT THE CHAIR, SOMETIME LATER THIS WEEK, THEN WE COULD HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU ALL PUT TOGETHER FOR NEXT WEEK AT THE WORK SESSION AT FIVE O'CLOCK BEFORE YOU START TALKING ABOUT, UM, CONVENIENT CENTERS, IF THAT WOULD WORK FOR EVERYBODY, UM, ONE COMMITTEE. 
          AND LET ME SEE IF IT'S GONE HERE. 
          YEP. 
          IT IS THE PEOPLE INC. 
          IF EVERYONE WANTS TO LOOK AT THEM AND THEN WHEN DO WE WANT TO GO OVER THIS AGAIN? I'M SORRY. 
          UH, SO IF YOU GIVE THEM BACK THIS WEEK, WE'LL COMPILE THE LIST OF WHERE YOU WANT TO BE, AND THEN WE'LL PRESENT IT BACK TO THE BOARD FIVE O'CLOCK AT YOUR WORK SESSION NEXT TUESDAY, BEFORE YOUR FIRST SET OF PUBLIC HEARINGS, FIVE O'CLOCK BECAUSE MIKE IS GOING TO BE HERE TO SO WE WILL BE OUR, I THINK WE SHOULD. 
          SO YOU THINK YOU CAN DO IT AT SIX O'CLOCK. 
          THIS REALLY SHOULDN'T BE THAT HARD. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS AND THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS THAT TALK ABOUT THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS AND SHOW SHORES OR IN GENERAL, IN GENERAL. 
          AND WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO ORDINANCE WAS ALSO WHERE WAS THAT GOING TO BE? WELL, WE'LL START THAT. 
          YES, BUT WE'LL DO THAT. 
          LET'S MAKE IT SIX O'CLOCK AND WE'LL DO THAT. 
          AND IF WE DON'T GET IT ALL FINISHED, WE'LL CONTINUE THE NEXT WEEK. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU CAN GIVE SOME DIRECTIONS THERE. 
          SO, SO THAT'LL BE SIX O'CLOCK, SIX O'CLOCK, SIX O'CLOCK FOUR TO GO OVER THIS AND TO TALK ABOUT CONVENIENCE SITES. 
          AND THEN IT'S SEVEN WILL BE, UM, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CAMPGROUND AND BROWN TOWN AND THE EVENTS ARE IN BENTONVILLE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S THE, WHAT, WHAT IS IT? THE, I DON'T HAVE MY CALENDAR IN THE 11TH. 
          THAT THING. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, AND I, I DON'T, I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT AGENDA, BUT HOPEFULLY THE EVENTS THAT ARE WILL BE FIRST, IT'LL BE THE LONGEST. 
          SO THERE'S NO, I THINK THE EVENTS 
          [02:15:01]
CENTER ON PANHANDLE ROAD. 
          OH, I WAS THINKING OF THE EVENT. 
          YEAH, NO, I'M THINKING BROWNTOWN IS GOING TO TAKE THE LONGEST. 
          SO YEAH, CARL, CARL AND JENNIFER, I ARE THE FIRST ONES ON THE AGENDA, SO WE'RE GOING TO GET THOSE DONE AND THEN THE NEXT FOUR WILL BE THE RIGHT APPLICATIONS. 
          THAT'S THAT WAS WHAT I WAS HOPING. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UM, 
          [G. 2022 Board of Supervisors Goals – Ed Daley]
THEN THE GOALS, YOU ALSO HAD THE GOALS IN HERE TO RATE FROM ONE TO 10. 
          AND AGAIN, THERE'S ANOTHER SHEET THIS MORNING, UH, THAT WE'LL, WE WILL WORK ON FILLING IN WHO'S THE RESPONSIBLE ENTITY AND WHAT SUPPORT ENTITIES ARE NECESSARY. 
          JUST SO WE KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE DOING THESE THINGS. 
          UM, MRS. ODE SAID, ASK DRE, REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY, THE DMO FOR TOURISM, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, STAFF, AND DRUG COURT TO THE, TO THE LIST OF, TO THESE LISTS. 
          AND WE WILL TAKE THIS, ADD TO IT AND BRING IT BACK WITH YOU NEXT WEEK, PLEASE. 
          AND THEN WE WILL LOOK AT THIS ON THE 19TH, WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR WORK SESSION ON THE ADVANCE, WE WON'T GET THAT INTO A REGULAR MEETING. 
          WE'LL DO IT AS A SEPARATE THERE SO THAT YOU CAN COMBINE THIS LIST WITH THE LIST THAT YOU DID WITH SHARON AND CARLA, TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ONE CONSOLIDATED PRIORITY LIST. 
          SO WE'VE GOT TOO MANY THINGS ON HERE WE NEED TO GET, WHAT DID WE DO LAST YEAR? WE TOOK THE SHOULD BE UNDER FIVE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WHAT WAS THE FOR A NUMBER 33 WAS THE REGIONAL SOMETHING REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, PROPOSE NEW? YES. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD ADD TO THAT THIS WEEK AND BRING IT BACK WITH YOU NEXT WEEK SO WE CAN COMPILE IT, BUT THEN EVERYBODY CAN SEE EVERYBODY ELSE'S LIST. 
          UM, IF I CAN MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS LIST, YOU KNOW, THE TITLE OF IT IS, IS OUR GOALS, PROJECTS, AND PROGRAMS, AND A GOAL IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT A PROJECT IS. 
          AND THAT PROJECT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM WHAT A PROGRAM IS. 
          IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY, WHICH IS A GOAL, WHICH IS A PROJECT IN WHICH PROGRAM WE'LL MAKE YOUR WILL SEPARATE AT ONE COLUMN ON A ONE PAGE RATHER THERE FOR PROJECTS AND ANOTHER ONE FOR YOUR GOALS AND WE'LL PUT PROGRAMS SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN THEM. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE GOAL IS JUST A VISION, RIGHT. 
          AND OF COURSE THE PROJECT IS SOMETHING THAT STARTS AND ENDS IN A PROGRAM IS JUST A HIGH LEVEL PROJECT PROJECT. 
          BUT, UM, I I'M SORRY. 
          I, UM, NUMBER ONE IS MY VISION MA'AM SO ANYWAY, BUT YEAH, UH, I, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KIND OF WORK MASSAGES A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. 
          WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THIS, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS A GOAL DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS THE PROJECT? DIDN'T KNOW WHAT, WHICH ONE WAS THE PROGRAM? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BEEN STARTED. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BEEN COMPLETED, YOU KNOW, SO FOR ME TO, TO, UM, RANK THIS, I NEED THAT DATA FOR, IN ORDER FOR ME TO MAKE A GOOD CALL ON WHAT IS, UM, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PRIORITY FOR OUR COUNTY GOING FORWARD. 
          SO WE COULD RELABEL THIS 2 0 2 TO WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS STUFFED TO DO. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          OUR SHOPPING LISTS, SHOPPING LISTS. 
          I LIKE THAT. 
          THAT'S BETTER. 
          NO MORE. 
          ARE YOU GOING TO REDO THAT AND SEND IT OUT TO US SO WE CAN HAVE, UH, ADD THE FOUR? YES. 
          I WILL ADD THE FOUR, BUT I ALSO NEED YOUR ADDITIONS. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE OTHER THINGS YOU WANT TO ADD, YOU NEED TO SEND THEM TO US OR BRING THEM WITH YOU NEXT TUESDAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I CAN SEND IT TO YOU. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          YOU DID. 
          IT'D BE BETTER OFF TO SEND THEM TO MRS. SHIRAKI THEN THEY WILL GET LOST. 
          WE DID GOOD. 
          WELL, FOLKS, THIS IS BEEN A LONG DAY, BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT COVERED AND HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE A LONG DAY LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ATTENDANCE AND IT'S QUARTER 
          [02:20:01]
TO FOUR. 
          I THINK WE CAN CALL YOU BACK. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU EVERYONE. 
          NO, I MEAN, I WOULDN'T MIND LOOKING AT IT MORE, BUT DON'T WANT JEREMY TO DESTROY IT, DESTROY IT. 
          THE CHAPTER CHAIR. 
          WELL, I CAN DO THAT. 
          DO WE KEEP THE NOTEBOOK OR.
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