* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] OKAY, GOOD MORNING, [A. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America] EVERYONE. IT'S ABOUT 9 0 1. SO I WOULD LIKE TO START OUR MEETING WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE, PLEASE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, I CALLED A MEETING OF THE FEBRUARY 1ST, 2022 BOARD OF SUPERVISOR MEETING TO ORDER. AND IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND, UH, FOR ADOPTION [B. Adoption of Agenda – Additions or Deletions] OF THE IDENT AGENDA, OR ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? MADAM CHAIRMAN? UM, I MOVED TO ADOPT THE AGENDA WITH ONE IDAM AND THAT WOULD BE IN THE CLOSED SESSION. UM, I, THAT WE WOULD ADD FOR YOU MATTERS A DISCUSSION OF, FOR YOU MATTERS TO, UM, THE CLOSED SESSION, PLEASE. SO WOULD THAT BE NUMBER FOUR, NUMBER THREE, NUMBER THREE AND FOUR FOR YOU? MATTERS. IS THERE A SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MR. MABE, MRS. COOK, MADAM CHAIR. HI MRS. OATES, MR. BUTLER. OKAY. AT THIS TIME IT'S PUBLIC COMMENT TIME, MRS. SHIRAKI IS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP MADAM CHAIR. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? SECOND CALL ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY. THIRD AND FINAL CALL PUBLIC COMMON TIME IS NOW OVER AND WE'LL [D. Report – Virginia Department of Transportation – Ed Carter] GO INTO REPORTS. FIRST ONE BEING THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. MR. CARTER, MADAM CHAIR. YES, SIR. MADAM CHAIR. I DID NOT REALIZE THAT MR. BUTLER WAS GOING TO APPEAR REMOTELY, WHICH IS TOTALLY APPROPRIATE. CAN YOU GIVE ME ONE SECOND? OKAY. UM, AND SO, UH, GIVE ME ONE SECOND TO FIND OUT OUR RULES ON THAT. THE SPECIFIC REASON WHY? RIGHT. WELL, OKAY. GIVE ME ONE SECOND HERE. ALL RIGHT. SO MR. BUTLER, CAN YOU JUST STATE, UH, WHERE YOU ARE AND, UM, IF YOU'VE GOT A PERSONAL MATTER OR A MEDICAL CONDITION THAT PREVENTS YOUR DISABILITY OR YOUR, UM, NOT PHYSICAL ATTENDANCE TODAY? YES. HOME. AND, UH, I'M VIEWING THIS OVER TEAMS. I'VE GOT A MINUTE AND WE'LL CONDITION. THE, UH, I TOOK A BUSINESS CRIP AND APPARENT THAT LAST WEEK AND APPARENTLY I WAS EXPOSED TO, AND OUR COVID FISCAL POSITIVE AND SUNDAY. WELL, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU TELLING US ALL THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO WE CAN, WE'RE GOOD TO PROCEED. OKAY, MR. CARTER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MORNING, MADAM CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS AND MR. BUTLER, I CERTAINLY HELP YOU SPEEDY RECOVERY, UH, ON THOSE V.IS, UH, EXPERIENCING A LOT OF THAT. WE'RE HAVING PEOPLE GO DOWN ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH A POSITIVE TEST. SO IT'S OUT THERE. UH, OUR REPORT FOR LAST MONTH AS SNOW, I BASICALLY SPENT THE MAJORITY OF OUR TIME, UH, WORKING WITH WEATHER EVENTS, UH, AND REPAIRING POTHOLES. AND UNFORTUNATELY THIS TIME OF YEAR, AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE COLD TEMPERATURES, WE'RE GOING TO EXPERIENCE A LOT MORE OF THEM. SO, UH, JUST LET US KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT. WE'LL GET, GET TO THEM, YOU KNOW, AS THEY ARISE. UM, THE, WE DID HANDLE SEVERAL DOWN TREES, SOME OF THE STORMS, AND ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE ASH TREES BECAME EXTREMELY BRITTLE. SO WE WERE OUT CLEANING UP DEBRIS FROM THAT AND TAKING CARE OF THOSE. UH, THIS MONTH WE DO PLAN TO DO SOME BRUSH REMOVAL ON THREE 40 SOUTH. OUR CONTRACT CREWS ARE COMING BACK IN. THIS WILL ADDRESS THE ISSUE SOUTH OF FRONT ROYAL, THERE, THOSE OVERHEADS AND THINGS WHERE WE HAVE TO USE CONTRACTORS FOR. UH, AND WE ALSO BE DOING SOME, UH, BRUSH REMOVAL ON [00:05:01] 6 49. UH, WE USE THE STATE FORCES FOR THAT. WE HAVE TO BE, WE HAVE SOME PIPES TO INSTALL VARIOUS ROUTES. OBVIOUSLY OUR, UH, STABILIZED ROADS, THE GRAVEL ROADS ARE GONNA NEED A LOT OF GRADINGS. SO AS SOON AS THE WEATHER PERMITS, WE'LL BE JUMPING ON THOSE. NO, UH, WE COULD BE GIVEN THE CURRENT WEATHER CYCLE. WE COULD BE ADDRESSING THESE WEATHER EVENTS CLEAR INTO FEBRUARY BECAUSE TODAY IS THE 1ST OF FEBRUARY AND ALREADY TONIGHT, WE HAVE A FREEZE FALL WARNING. SO WE'LL BE MOBILIZING OUR CREWS TONIGHT TO HANDLE THAT, UH, ISSUE THE, UH, UH, MADAM CHAIRMAN, UH, MORMON YEAR, UH, DOCUMENTATION. WE'RE GETTING IT TOGETHER. AS SOON AS WE CAN GET THROUGH THESE WEATHER EVENTS, WE'LL GET THAT TO YOU. AND THEN A MEETING, THE SECONDARY SIX-YEAR PLAN. I KNOW YOU WANT US TO APPEAR SO THAT YOUR NEW MEMBERS CAN UNDERSTAND OUR PROCESS AND BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. UH, BUT WITH ALL OF THE, UH, FORECASTED REVENUE CHANGES, THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS COMING IN FROM THE, UH, UH, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, SO FORTH, OUR PEOPLE ARE FINANCE. PEOPLE ARE BUSY SEEING HOW THAT IMPACTS IS, UH, PROBABLY WILL NOT HAVE THOSE FIGURES TO GIVE YOU ANY REAL FIGURES UNTIL SOMETIME IN THE 1ST OF MARCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO ADDRESS MR. CARTER? COULD I HAVE ASKED YOU A QUESTION? DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW HOW OR, UH, WHAT METHOD OR ALGORITHM THEY'RE USING TO DISTRIBUTE THE INFRASTRUCTURE DOLLARS TO THE LOCALITIES? I DO NOT. OKAY. SO MY QUESTION IS IT ALL GOING TO 66 AND 81? ARE WE, I'M LOOKING, LOOKING AT THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST COMMONWEALTH TRANSPORTATION BOARD, ADDITIONAL FUNDS WERE APPLIED IN A LOT OF CATEGORIES. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT ALL GOING TO AN 80. ONE OF HIS EX WAS NOT INCLUDED ACCORDING TO THE CTB MINUTES ON ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THAT, FROM THIS, BUT, UH, REVENUE SHARING WAS INCREASED. UH, PROJECTS WERE MOVED FORWARD THAT WERE DATED OUT. THEY'VE ALL BEEN MOVED. A LOT OF THEM HAVE MOVED FORWARD A COUPLE OF YEARS INSTEAD OF HAVING TO WAIT TO THE 24 25 TIMEFRAME. NOW WE'RE BACK INTO THE 2223 TIMEFRAME, BUT SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS, UM, I KNEW ADDITIONAL FUNDS WERE SET ASIDE FOR UNPAVED ROADS, BUT I DO NOT KNOW THE FORMULA OR HOW MUCH OF THAT, UH, EACH INDIVIDUAL AREA GETS YET. AND THE TIMEFRAME FOR THAT INFORMATION SHOULD BE MARCH OR APRIL. WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE IT. IT GENERALLY COMES OUT IN MARCH AND, UH, WE HELP HIM TO HAVE THAT. SO WE WILL KNOW. AND, AND THEN I CAN GIVE YOU SOME EXACT FIGURES, IF NOT, I I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO APPEAR BEFORE THE BOARD AND TALK TO THE NEW MEMBERS AND ALL OF YOU ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING POTS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND HOW THEY WORK. YEAH. THAT IS, IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO TO GET MORE REVENUE INTO WARREN COUNTY? I MEAN, I KNOW THE SQUEAKY WHEEL ALWAYS GETS THE GREASE AND MAYBE WE'RE NOT SQUEAKING HARD ENOUGH AND I'M GLAD TO DO THAT. OKAY. WELL, WE, WE HAVE, UH, UH, THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL GRANT MONIES OUT THERE THAT WE WENT THROUGH A LIST, UH, AND IT LOOKS LIKE A SIZABLE CHUNK OF CHANGE, BUT WE'RE COMPETING WITH 49 OTHER STATES FOR IT. SO WE'VE ALREADY IN WARREN COUNTY. UH, WE LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF PROJECTS IN WARREN COUNTY TO HELP NOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY PASS THE SCORING TEST. UH, I DON'T KNOW YET. 'CAUSE, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, I WAS LOOKING THROUGH REALLY QUICKLY THIS MORNING. UM, THE SIX YEAR PLAN, AND I THINK AIRPORT ROAD WAS ON THERE FOR SMART SCALE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT, HOW FAR UP IT'S GONE ON THAT EVALUATION FOR SMART SCALE AND, YOU KNOW, THREE 40 THAT AREA THERE AT SNAKE ROAD. IF, UM, WE COULD LOOK AT PUTTING THAT BACK THROUGH THAT EVALUATION AS WELL. I WILL CHECK ON THOSE TWO FOR YOU AND SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, FROM MY AREA OF THE SCALING ON THREE 40, I KNOW RIGHT NOW CAN'T BE DONE, BUT, UH, WE'VE BEEN KIND OF HANGING ON TO THAT NOW FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND ROCKS ARE STILL FALLING OFF. UH, I KNOW IT IS STILL ON THERE. WE, WE, UH, OFFERING TO PAY FOR IT. I'M STILL WAITING ON THE, OUR, UH, GEOLOGY FOLKS WHEN THEY'RE CONTRACTORS AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE ESTIMATE BACK YET. GOOD GRIEF. TWO YEARS WORTH. YEAH. I, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT. [00:10:02] THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED IN TWO YEARS. IT'S NOT BEEN ON THE FRONT BURNER, BUT I WILL PUSH THAT AGAIN. OKAY. WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S MY JOB TO KEEP PUSHING YOU. YEAH. IT FLOWS DOWNSTREAM, UNFORTUNATELY. UM, HAPPY CREEK ROAD. IS THAT PART, THAT PHASE OF THAT COMPLETED HAPPY CUBIC ROAD AREA THAT YOU WORKED ON LAST SUMMER? YES. OKAY. YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU THOUGHT IT WASN'T GOING TO COST AS MUCH AS PROJECTED DID IT COME FROM? I HAVE NOT SEEN THE FINAL FIGURES ON IT YET. I CAN FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU. OKAY. UM, CAUSE I WAS GOING TO ASK WHAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, IF IT CAME UNDER, DOES THAT MONEY STAY IN WARREN COUNTY OR DOES THAT GET PUT BACK IN DISCRIMINATE? OTHER PLACES THAT WAS, UH, I BELIEVE THAT WAS A SMART SCALE PROJECT. WAS IT NOT? I THINK SO. OKAY. THEN NO, THE FUN, THE ALL MONIES GO BACK INTO THE GENERAL POT. OKAY. THERE WAS, UM, A SEGMENT ON THERE THAT SAID 360,000 OUT OF SECONDARY ROAD FUNDS. WOULD THAT IF YOU, IF THAT MUCH MONEY WAS AVAILABLE, DOES THAT GO BACK INTO OUR SECONDARY? I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE WHERE THEY I'VE CHARGED YOUR SUPPLIED, THE FUNDING FOR THOSE THINGS. AND ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT LEVELS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT A PROJECT, UH, SOME OF IT IS, IS, UH, STATE FUNDS. SOME OF IT IS, UH, FEDERAL FUNDS BECAUSE IT'S A PRIME, UH, I MEAN, UH, UH, FEDERALLY ROAD AND THAT'S NOT A FEDERAL ROAD, BUT WE GET FEDERAL FUNDS TO SOME OF THE HIGHER VOLUME RATES. SOME OF THE SECONDARY FUNDS I HAVE, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE CHARGES APPLIED, WHERE THEY TOOK THEM FROM. WELL, I'M JUST HOPING IF IT CAME UNDER THAT MAYBE THAT 360 COULD BE PUT BACK IN OUR POT IF IT CAME OUT OF IT TO CHECK ON THAT. OKAY. AND THAT ANSWERS ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW. DOES ANYONE, MR. CARTER, UM, JUST HAD ONE REMINDER. OH, OH SECOND. MR. MAVE IS ASKING A QUESTION, MR. BUTLER, AND THEN WE'LL GET YOU NEXT. NO, NO, NO. UM, JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A REMINDER ABOUT HOW'S RAILROAD AND THE STRIPING. I KNOW IT'S COLD AND IT MAY BE A WHILE BEFORE WE GET THAT DONE, IT IS ALL ON THE LIST TO BE DONE AS SOON AS THE WEATHER PERMITS IT, THIS, UH, SPRAYING. OKAY. THAT'S TERRIFIC. AND ALSO AT THE INTERSECTION OF, UM, UH, RIVER RIVER COMMONS THAT TURNED FROM THE WALMART SHOPPING CENTER THERE, AND SAME THING, SAME THING. OKAY. ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHITE AND A, LIKE A PEARL, A PEARLESCENT OR SOMETHING OTHER, SO IT ACTUALLY IS A REFLECTOR ON THAT CORNER. THERE, WE HAVE A STANDARD PAINT AND I I'M, I'M SORRY TO SAY, I'M, I'M NOT THAT TECHNICAL ON IT, BUT THEY HAVE A STANDARD TIGHT THAT THEY HAVE TO USE. AND IT, WE, WE RECOGNIZE THAT OUR PAINTS DON'T LAST AS LONG AS THEY USED TO PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE CAN'T USE ANYTHING LED BASED ANYMORE. SO SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE USE, UH, THAT'S BEEN APPROVED, IT WEARS QUICKER, BUT NOW BOTH OF THOSE ARE ON THE LIST TO BE DONE AS SOON AS SPRING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I, I, AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE, BUT GOTTA KEEP THEM IN FRONT OF US NOW THAT THAT IS FINE. I DON'T MIND AT ALL, MR. BUTLER, YOU MANAGE THE, UH, JUST ONE OR TWO TO, UH, UH, FIND THAT, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME APPROVALS ARE GOING TO BE A FEDERAL TIMEOUT OVER ON 55. AND, UH, WHEN DID HE GET AN IDEA AS TO TIMELINE THAT, THAT MAYBE, UH, MATT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN THE DESIGN PHASE? I THINK IT'S ADVERTISEMENT IN 2023, I BELIEVE, BUT LET ME, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK THAT TOO, TO GET YOU ADD DATE. OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING. ALL YOUR CREWS DID TO GET THE ROADS CLEANED UP AS QUICKLY AS THEY DID, AND WE PRAY THEY ALL STAY SAFE THROUGH THE REST OF THE CRAZY WEATHER THAT MAY HAPPEN. WELL, YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME. UH, I'LL PASS THAT ON TO THE MEN. THEY, UH, THEY TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN WHAT THEY DO. UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE LOST A CONTRACTOR THIS MORNING ON, UH, 81, UH, IN A TRAFFIC CRASH. ONE OF THE CONTRACT CREWS, UH, WAS, UH, SETTING UP, UH, SETTING UP A, TAKING DOWN. I DON'T REALLY WORK ZONE AND ATTRACT A TRAILER, CRASHED INTO THEM, AND WE LOST A DRIVER FOR THAT CONTRACTOR. SO I SAY, SORRY TO THAT. IT'S A DANGEROUS JOB. IT'S A DANGEROUS JOB. AND PEOPLE DON'T WATCH WHAT THEY'RE DOING. WHEN, WHEN ARE CREWS ON THE ROAD? THEY'RE NOT AS CAREFUL AS [00:15:01] THEY NEED TO BE. NO, UH, THEY DON'T. UH, AND THIS, THIS GENTLEMAN WAS HANDLING THE CRASH PUSHING TRUCK. HE WAS IN THE CRASH CUSHION TRUCK AND THE FORCE DESTROYED THE TRUCK AND HE WAS A FATALITY. SO 81 SEARCH. I'M SORRY, IT WASN'T ON 81. YES. 81 NORTH, UH, SOUTH SOUTHBOUND NORTHBOUND AT, UH, THE 2 33 THIS MORNING. WELL, WE CERTAINLY PRAY FOR HIS FAMILY. OKAY. THAT IS OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, VIRGINIA [E. Report – Virginia Cooperative Extension Office – Corey Childs] COOPERATIVE EXTENSION OFFICE. MR. CHILDS. ALRIGHT. MADAM CHAIRMAN BOARD MEMBERS. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WHAT, WHAT WE DO, UH, FOR THE COUNTY ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND, UH, I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE A TON OF YOUR TIME, UH, THIS MORNING, BUT I WANTED TO BRING A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS TO YOUR ATTENTION. YOU HAVE, YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN IN THE PACKET, UM, OUR QUARTERLY REPORT OF ACTIVITIES, UH, ALL THE AGENTS OR PERSONNEL THAT, UH, SUPPORT WARREN COUNTY AND WHAT WE'VE DONE. UH, I HOPE YOU TAKE TIME TO LOOK AT THAT. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET US KNOW. I'M GOING TO TRY TO PICK OUT A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS FROM THAT. UM, ON THE AG SIDE, UH, WE BASICALLY JUST COMPLETED A PRIVATE PESTICIDE APPLICATOR RECERTIFICATION SESSIONS. UH, NORMALLY WE DO ONE OR TWO SESSIONS SPREAD OUT OVER, UH, OUR GEOGRAPHIC COVERAGE AREA, WHICH IS BASICALLY PLANTING DISTRICT SEVEN. UH, BUT THIS YEAR DUE TO COVID AND SEVERAL OTHER, UH, EVENTS, WE, UM, BASICALLY, UH, EXTENDED THAT. SO INSTEAD OF HAVING TWO OR THREE SESSIONS, WE HAD SEVEN IN-PERSON SESSIONS TO KEEP THE NUMBERS LOWER AND BE ABLE TO SPACE OUT PEOPLE AND WORK, UH, AND DO THOSE THINGS. WE ALSO OFFERED SOME VIRTUAL, UM, OPPORTUNITIES TO PEOPLE AS WELL. UM, BUT IN TOLD, UH, WE GOT 118 PEOPLE, UH, RECERTIFIED, UH, AND THAT IS PRETTY MUCH BACK ON LINE WHERE WE WERE BEFORE THE COVID SITUATION. UH, SO WE LOOK AT THAT AS A POSITIVE THING, UH, THAT THINGS, ALTHOUGH THEY MIGHT NOT SEEM, AND THEY'RE STARTING TO GET BACK IN THE SWING OF THINGS, AND IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THOSE PEOPLE RECEIVE ADDITIONAL TRAINING AND CERTIFICATION TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE APPLYING THINGS APPROPRIATELY. UH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH THAT. UH, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DID, UH, WAS WE'VE BEEN PUTTING ON A VERY CONCERTED EFFORT, UH, IN OVER THE LAST YEAR, BUT WE REALLY HIT, UH, THROUGH SOME OF THESE SESSIONS AND SOME OTHER SESSIONS DEALING WITH SOME INVASIVE INSECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN FACING. YOU'RE PROBABLY VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE SPOTTED LANTERN FLY. UH, THAT THING IS KIND OF EVERYWHERE AT THIS POINT AND MULTIPLIES LIKE CRAZY AND JUST KIND OF THE BANE OF EVERYONE'S EXISTENCE. THE ONE THING I DIDN'T MENTION TO YOU, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, UH, THAT, UM, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT IS IMPACTING THE BEEF INDUSTRY A LITTLE BIT. UH, I WOULD SAY IT'S IMPACTING, IT'S STRONGLY ON ONE HAND, BUT ECONOMICALLY WE'RE STILL SEEING WE HAVE YET TO DETERMINE WHAT ALL IS GOING TO DO. UH, BUT THAT IS THE ASIAN LONGHORNED TICK. IT IS A RELATIVELY NEW TECH THAT IS, UH, IT WAS FOUND IN VIRGINIA IN 2017. IT WAS FOUND HERE IN THE COUNTY, ACTUALLY IN 2000 EARLY 2018. UH, ONE OF OUR PREVIOUS SUPERVISORS, UH, WAS ACTUALLY HIS PROPERTY WAS WHERE IT WAS FIRST FILED. UM, BUT IT'S BASICALLY A HARD SHELL TICK THAT, UH, CAN SERVE AS A VECTOR FOR A VAST NUMBER OF, UH, DIFFERENT ILLNESSES OR DISEASE. UM, INCLUDING THOSE THAT, EXCUSE ME, IF WE DIDN'T, THERE WAS THE COULD AFFECT PEOPLE. FORTUNATELY AT THIS POINT IN TIME, UH, THE ONLY VECTOR THAT WE KNOW THAT IT'S CARRYING IS A, UM, DISEASE CALLED MALARIA. THANK YOU, WHICH IS POSSIBLY GOING TO IMPACT THE BEEF CATTLE INDUSTRY. UM, IT IS A DISEASE AND INSECT THAT COMES FROM SOUTHEAST ASIA. UH, SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION [00:20:01] ON IT, BUT IT IS PREVALENT IN AUSTRALIA AND SOME OTHER COUNTRIES. AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THAT IS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME SEVERE ECONOMIC PERFORMANCE AND FINANCIAL LOSSES IN THOSE, IN THOSE AREAS OVER THE COURSE OF TIME. UH, AND WE HAVE SEEN SOME OF THOSE ECONOMIC PLAYERS COME TO BEAR HERE IN VIRGINIA, BUT NOT TO THE POINT WHERE, UM, THEY'VE REALLY SERIOUSLY NEGATIVELY IMPACTED ANYBODY IN PARTICULAR. AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THAT'S ALWAYS A, A RISK, BUT WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IS AGAIN, ELIMINATE THE TICK ITSELF, WHICH IS VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE. SO WE'VE CALLED THE OTHER ROUTE AND TALKED ABOUT HOW WE CAN, UH, DEAL WITH THE TICK AND WHAT CONTROL MEASURES THAT FARMERS AND LANDOWNERS CAN PUT IN PLACE. AND WE'VE BEEN, WE HIT THAT REALLY HARD LAST QUARTER THROUGH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS, UH, BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE FOUND IS THAT THE RURAL HOTSPOT IS IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA AND ACTUALLY IN OUR AREA, UH, RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE SEEING A COMBINATION OF TICKS AND MALARIA BEING FAILED IN CATTLE THAT HAVE BEEN RUN THROUGH LOCAL SALE BARNS. AND THAT'S JUST A LONG STORY JUST TO SAY THAT WE HAVE A POTENTIAL SERIOUS SITUATION, WE'VE BEEN ADDRESSING IT AND THERE'S MORE TO COME. UM, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO GET INTO THE, A B HERE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LEARN TO DEAL WITH IT. AND THAT'S KIND OF OUR GOAL WHEN WE'RE PUTTING OUR FOCUS RIGHT NOW. UM, WE ALSO DID OUR WELL WATER TESTING PROGRAM. UH, WE'VE KIND OF DONE IT ANNUALLY HERE IN THE AREA. UH, WE DID HAVE 212 DIFFERENT HOUSEHOLDS THAT, UH, TOOK UP THE PROGRAM THIS YEAR, UH, ABOUT 60 DIFFERENT WELLS IN THE COUNTY THAT WERE TESTED. AND WE TEST THE 240 WELLS TOTAL IN THE AREA, BUT ABOUT 60 WERE FOR WARREN, UM, TESTING FOR 14 DIFFERENT PARAMETERS. IT GIVES PEOPLE THAT, UM, WANT, ARE INTERESTED IN TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR WORK QUALITY IS OR PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD A COMMERCIAL TEST AND OPPORTUNITY TO GET THEIR WELLS TESTED, UH, AT A LOWER FEE. AND WE DO UNFORTUNATELY HAVE A COUPLE OF HOMES, UH, FARMS, BUSINESSES, WHATEVER, UH, THAT THEY COME BACK WITH, UH, SOME PARAMETERS THAT HAD NEEDED ADJUSTMENT THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH TRYING TO CLARIFY THEIR SITUATIONS AND IMPROVE THEIR WORK. LIKE ON THE FREIGHT SIDE. UM, WE HAD A PROGRAM THIS FALL, WHICH WAS A FALL LEARNING KITS, WHICH WAS A NEW PROGRAM THAT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL. WE HAD ABOUT 90 DIFFERENT FAMILIES THAT WERE BRIDGED MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT TOOK THOSE HOME. AND HOPEFULLY THEY'RE ABLE TO, UM, WORK THROUGH THE FAMILY INTERACTION THAT THOSE KITS ARE DESIGNED TO CREATE. SO HOPEFULLY GET PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER, UH, ENRICHING THE KIDS IN THE YOUTH, BUT ALSO REACHING THE FAMILIES. UH, PARENTS WERE SPENDING MORE TIME WITH THE CHILDREN. WE ALSO HAD, UH, THE END OF THE YEAR AWARDS, BANQUET RECOGNITION BANQUET FOR THE FORAGE PROGRAM THAT ESSENTIALLY, UH, OVER THE LAST CALENDAR YEAR, UH, FOR PROJECTS THAT THEY COMPLETED EVENTS THAT THEY DID AND, UH, RECOGNITION FOR THEIR ACTIVITIES. LET'S SEE, THOSE WERE THE KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS OUT OF THE, UH, REPORT. UH, WE ARE SEEING PROBLEMS AS MR. CARTER MENTIONED EARLIER. SNOW IS A BIG ISSUE WITH TEMPERATURES WERE BIG ISSUE IN THE AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY. THAT'S A BIG, UH, FERTILIZER, UH, PRICES ARE GOING WAY UP, UH, FEED COSTS ARE GOING WAY UP, UH, FAMILY, UH, FROM, UH, UH, FAMILY FINANCIAL COUNSELING PROGRAM, FAMILIES ARE BEING CHALLENGED MORE FROM INFLATION AND ALL THOSE THINGS. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE SEEING A REAL, UH, PUSH FOR OUR SERVICES AND PEOPLE ARE BECOMING MUCH MORE, UM, I GUESS, WILLING TO COME OUT AND LOOK FOR HIS WHOLE HELP TO TRY TO IMPROVE THEIR SITUATION. UM, THE LAST THING IT REALLY, WELL, I GUESS THERE'S TWO THINGS. SO I WOULD START WITH THIS NEXT ONE. UM, HOPEFULLY YOU GOT THIS THIS MORNING, THIS WAS SORT OF A SNAPSHOT. IT TALKS ABOUT OUR ACTIVITIES, UM, HERE IN THE COUNTY, AND IT'S SORT OF A RETURN ON INVESTMENT, A FEW LITTLE MONITOR STORIES, TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT WE DO. IT'S HOPEFULLY A BROCHURE THAT CAN PROVIDE YOU A LITTLE MORE INSIGHT INTO OUR ORGANIZATION AND KIND OF WHAT WE DO. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH THAT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. AND THEN THE LAST THING I JUST WANT TO INFORM YOU, UH, IT'S A SAD DAY FOR US AS WELL. WE LOST, UH, I LONG-TIME SECRETARY, UH, [00:25:01] THEY USED TO BE HERE IN THE OFFICE, IN THE BUILDING FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS, UH, TAMMY HENRY, UH, WHICH IS SORT OF, UH, I GUESS SHE WOULD KIND OF THE MOTHER OF OUR PROGRAM BECAUSE SHE KIND OF KEPT EVERYBODY IN LINE. UH, IT KEPT US ALL ON TASK, UH, PASSED AWAY FROM CANCER BACK EARLIER THIS MONTH. AND, UH, WE, UH, WE'RE SORRY THAT THAT HAPPENED, BUT WE HOPE TO BE BACK UP AT FULL STEAM AND STAFF AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. UM, DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OR ANYTHING THAT I CAN HELP YOU WITH? UM, MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU. UM, MR. CHARLES, I, YOU HAD MENTIONED THE FOUR H PROGRAM. YES, SIR. HOW MANY? AND YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE AN ANSWER, BUT DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY, A YOUNG PEOPLE OR PEOPLE IN GENERAL THAT WE SERVED FOR THE FOUR H I DON'T LIVE IN EXACT NUMBER BALLPARK. I MEAN, I, UH, JUST A NUMBER, YOU MENTIONED OTHER OTHER NUMBERS. YEAH. UM, THERE'S, IT'S A TWO-SIDED QUESTION TO ANSWER THAT THE FIRST ONE WE HAVE IS THE ENROLLED FOUR ACRES, AND THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO, UH, PARTICIPATE IN YOUR ROUND PROGRAMS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE ENROLLED AS A MEMBER OF THEY'RE GOING TO BE TAKING ON PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BELONGING TO CLUBS AND THAT KIND OF THING. AND THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE. UH, IT VARIES, BUT THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE BEEN SOMEWHERE AROUND 230 ROUGHLY. UM, AND THEY AGE IN AGE OUT, WE GO THROUGH SPURTS, BUT THAT'S KIND OF ROLLING AVERAGE. THE OTHER, UH, NUMBER IS GOING TO BE MUCH HIGHER AND THAT'S THE PEOPLE WE IMPACT WITH ONE TIME PROGRAMS LIKE OUR RESIDENTIAL SUMMER CAMP, OUR WINTER CAMPING OPPORTUNITY, THESE A W A K CAMP IN A BOX KIND OF THINGS OR SPECIAL PROGRAMS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO MEET A NEED. THEY ARE NOT CONSIDERED ACTUAL FORAGE MEMBERS CAUSE THEY DON'T RECEIVE SIX HOURS OF EDUCATION ON ANY ONE PROJECT AREA. UH, DURING THAT TIME, NORMALLY SOME OF THEM DO SOME OF THEM DON'T, BUT, UM, THOSE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE, UH, PROBABLY AN ADAMANT, AN ADDITIONAL 200 TO 250 CHILDREN THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE YEAR. AND THEN YOU IN A NORMAL YEAR, WHICH THIS HAS NOT BEEN, WE'LL NORMALLY REACH SOMEWHERE AROUND, UM, 500 KIDS IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, THROUGH FORAGE PROGRAMMING IN SCHOOL OPPORTUNITIES. UH, IF YOU TOTAL ALL THOSE TOGETHER, WE REACH A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PEOPLE, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE ACCURATE ACCURATELY REFLECTED IN THE NUMBER OF FOUR H MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL, WE CAN'T COUNT THEM AS A MEMBER. UM, UNLESS THEY ARE AT LEAST FULFILLING THAT SIX HOUR COMMITMENT. YEAH. I'D LOVE. I MEAN, I LOVE TO SEE THE FOUR H MEMBERS, BUT I ALSO LOVE TO SEE PEOPLE DOING IT, JUST GOING OUT AND BEING PART OF THE FOUR H AND THE PROGRAM THAT YOU HAVE TO OFFER. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. CHILDS? UH, ONE QUESTION ON THIS PHILOSOPHY THING, AND I'VE GOT TO RESEARCH THE TICK. UM, WELL THIS COLD WEATHER, I KNOW THEY HAVE RENAMED, BUT IT'S BEEN SO COLD. ARE THEY NOT USED TO OUR TENT OR CLIMATE ENOUGH THAT MAYBE THAT'S GOING TO HELP KNOCK THEIR POPULATION? THE SIMPLE ANSWER THAT IS NO. UM, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE TICK CAME FROM ASIA TO, UH, NORTHERN PENNSYLVANIA, WHICH HAS A MORE IRREGULARLY, SEVERE CLIMATE THAN WE DO. I'M AT THE FLY OR THE FLY FROM THE SAME PLACE, ACTUALLY NOT THE SAME GENERAL PREFERENCE, BUT THEY WERE FAILED IN PENNSYLVANIA FIRST, BEFORE THEY CAME DOWN HERE. UM, AND THEY HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED ANY, UH, REDUCTION BASED ON ENVIRONMENTAL CIRCUMSTANCES, LIKE COLD WEATHER OR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. UM, I CAN'T SAY FOR CERTAIN, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN HERE BECAUSE THAT ALWAYS COULD, BUT I DON'T FORESEE MUCH OF A REDUCTION OR LIMITATION IN THE EXPANSION OF IT DUE TO THE COLD WEATHER AND THINGS THAT WE'VE HAD. THAT WAS KIND OF HOPING, I REMEMBER A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN THE STINKBUGS WERE SO THICK AND THEN WE HAD THAT REALLY COLD SNAP WINTER, AND THEY SEEM TO THIN OUT SIGNIFICANTLY. SO I WAS HOPING THAT WOULD DO THE SAME WITH THE, YEAH, I THINK IT'S A PERSONAL OPINION IS THAT, UH, WE ARE EVENTUALLY GOING TO SEE SOMETHING SOMEWHERE. UH, IF YOU TAKE GYPSY MOTHS AND OTHER INVASIVE INSECTS THAT COME IN, THERE ARE NO NATURAL PREDATORS OR NO INHIBITORS THAT ARE FOUND HERE TO THOSE INSECTS. AND PART OF IT IS ONE, UH, LETTING SOME THINGS GET ACCUSTOMED TO THEM AND BECOMING A PREDATOR, WHICH WOULD REDUCE THOSE THINGS. AND THEN ON [00:30:01] THE OTHER SIDE, IT'S HAPPENING A LITTLE BIT WITH THE SNAKE BUGS, BUT IT ALSO HAPPENED WITH THE GYPSY MOUTH IS THAT THE POPULATION GOT SO BIG. THEY EVENTUALLY HAD A SITUATION WHERE A VIRUS CAME FROM THEM THAT I'M FROM DYING OFF AND COMPETING FOR AREA AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT HELPS REDUCE THE POPULATION AS WELL. UH, UNFORTUNATELY I THINK THAT IT MIGHT BE A MATTER OF TIME AND I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECULATION AS TO HOW LONG IT WAS GOING TO BE, BUT EVENTUALLY IT, IT MAY COME TO BALANCE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. WARREN [F. Report – Warren County Department of Social Services – Jon Martz] COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES, MR. MARTS. GOOD MORNING. MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JOHN MARTS AND I'M HERE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES WITH ME AS ALWAYS AS CHRISTY LAWSON, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. UM, JANUARY'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE TIMES OF THE YEAR. I GET TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, HOW WE'VE BEEN DOING IT. UH, YOU SHOULD HAVE THIS IN YOUR PACKET BECAUSE I ACTUALLY GOT IT DONE ON TIME THIS TIME. SO, UH, I JUST WANT TO GO OVER SOME NUMBERS EVERY YEAR. THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES, UH, PUTS OUT WHAT THEY CALL THE LOCAL PROFILE REPORT FOR EACH AGENCY. AND IT GOES BY FISCAL YEARS AND WE JUST GOT THE FISCAL YEAR 21 NUMBERS, WHICH WOULD BE FROM JULY 1ST, 2020 TO JUNE 30TH, 2021. SO THESE NUMBERS REFLECT THAT TIME PERIOD SPECIFICALLY, AS YOU CAN SEE OUR ELIGIBILITY PROGRAMS, WHICH ARE MAINLY SNAP, TANIF AND MEDICAID CONTINUE TO RISE. UH, YOU HAVE THE NUMBERS FROM FISCAL YEAR 18 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 21. I WOULD SAY THERE WAS A BIG JUMP IN FISCAL YEAR 20, BUT EVERYTHING HAPPENED IN 20 AND WE ALL KNOW WHY FOR FISCAL YEAR 21, UH, WE HAD 5,370 RESIDENTS RECEIVING SNAP TOO MUCH IN 95, RECEIVING TANIF AND A WHOPPING 10,091 ON MEDICAID. THE MEDICAID NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE SKEWED BECAUSE WHEN THE PANDEMIC HIT, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAID THAT NOBODY CAN HAVE THEIR MEDICAID TURNED OFF UNLESS THEY MOVE OUT OF STATE, THEY PASS AWAY OR THEY REQUEST TO HAVE IT TURNED OFF. UH, SO IT DIDN'T MATTER. YOUR INCOME LEVEL WENT UP OR YOU WERE NO LONGER ELIGIBLE FOR MEDICAID. YOU MAINTAINED ON THE PROGRAM DURING THE PANDEMIC. THE NEXT PAGE TALKS ABOUT THE RESIDENTS IN WARREN COUNTY WHO RECEIVE EITHER SNAP, TNF, OR MEDICAID. AND THESE ARE 10,643 INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THE COUNTY. THESE ARE NON DUPLICATED NUMBERS. OFTENTIMES WE'LL HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN AND THEY RECEIVE TNF, SNAP AND MEDICAID. THEY ONLY COUNTED ONCE IN THIS NUMBER HERE. SO THAT'S ACTUALLY 10,643 PEOPLE IN WARREN COUNTY WHO RECEIVED SERVICES. AND THAT JUST THOSE THREE SERVICES DOESN'T COUNT. CPS DOESN'T COUNT APS DOESN'T COUNT ANY OF OUR OTHER PROGRAMS. THE POPULATION OF WARREN COUNTY IS ABOUT 40,000 AND ALTHOUGH HE WAS NOT A MATH MAJOR THAT TELLS THESE ABOUT ONE IN FOUR RESIDENTS IN WARREN COUNTY, COME THROUGH OUR DOORS. THE NEXT PAGE TALKS ABOUT THE ALICE NUMBERS. AND LAST JERKING, BEFORE YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT ALICE WAS AND THAT'S ASSET LIMITED INCOME CONSTRAINED, EMPLOYED, IT'S A NUMBER PUT OUT BY THE UNITED WAY. AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE WORKING POOR. BASICALLY MOST OF THE SOCIAL SERVICES PROGRAMS, YOU NEED TO HAVE INCOME THAT'S AT OR BELOW THE POVERTY LEVEL TO BE ELIGIBLE. ALICE ACCOUNTS FOR THE SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION WHO MAY BE MAKING OVER THE POVERTY LEVEL, BUT STILL ARE ONE BILL AWAY FROM NEEDING SERVICES. UH, ESSENTIALLY IT'S THE WORKING POOR. UH, SO WE HAVE ABOUT NINE TO 10% OF THE POPULATION LIVING AT THE POVERTY LEVEL OR BELOW THE, OUR STANDARD ADDS ANOTHER 24% OF THE POPULATION IN WARREN COUNTY. SO IF YOU ADD THOSE TOGETHER ABOUT ONE THIRD OF OUR POPULATION IS EITHER AT THE POVERTY LEVEL BELOW OR ONE BILL OR CATASTROPHE AWAY FROM BEING AT THAT LEVEL. EXCUSE ME, MR. MARTIN, HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO THE STATE TO THE, YOU KNOW, SURROUNDING LOCALITIES? IS THAT SIMILAR? ARE WE DISSIMILAR? WHAT, WHAT'S THE, HOW DO WE, IT'S FAIRLY SIMILAR TO OUR SURROUNDING LOCALITIES IN THE STATE AS A WHOLE. OKAY. SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH THIS, THIS PERCENTAGE IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME ACROSS. YES MA'AM OKAY. FAMILY SERVICES [00:35:01] CLIENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 21, SHE CAN SEE WE HAD 17 CHILDREN IN FOSTER CARE. HOWEVER, SIX ENDED UP BEING ADOPTED, UH, FINDING THEIR FOREVER HOME. AND THAT'S ALWAYS A JOYOUS OCCASION. UM, OUR CPS NUMBERS, CHILDREN IN CPS REFERRALS FOR FISCAL YEAR 21 WAS 899. NOW THAT DIDN'T MEAN WE GOT 899 CALLS AND IT DIDN'T MEAN WE HAD 899 CALLS THAT WE HAD TO RESPOND TO. IT JUST MEANT OF ALL THE REFERRALS THAT WE GOT FOR THE YEAR. THERE ARE 899 CHILDREN INVOLVED IN THOSE. AND SOME OF THOSE WERE DUPLICATES BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE GET MULTIPLE CALLS ON A FAMILY. OUR ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICE NUMBERS ARE AS 186 THAT GENERALLY ONE PERSON PER CALL ON THAT. OCCASIONALLY YOU'LL GET A COUPLE, BUT MOSTLY IT'S ONE PERSON PER CALL FOR APS. THOSE NUMBERS ARE CLIMBING AS THEY ALWAYS DO. THEY NEVER GO DOWN. UNFORTUNATELY FOR APS AND CPS, TOTAL SPENDING PERCENTAGE ON SOCIAL SERVICES. IF YOU EVER WONDER, HOW DO WE GET OUR MONEY? ABOUT 55% OF IT COMES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND ANOTHER 43% COMES FROM OUR STATE PARTNERS. AND THEN OF COURSE THE REST COME FROM OUR LOCALITY SOCIAL SERVICES SPENDING. THIS IS MY FAVORITE SLIDE BECAUSE IT ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT MONEY. AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE BETWEEN OUR STATE, FEDERAL AND LOCAL PARTNERS. THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES BROUGHT IN ABOUT 83 MILLION WITH AN M $83 MILLION OF GOODS AND SERVICES TO WARREN COUNTY IN FISCAL YEAR 21, LOCALITY SPENT ABOUT 1.7 MILLION ON SOCIAL SERVICES. HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT EXACTLY ACCURATE BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHARTER AND THE NEXT PAGE, THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES INCLUDES CSA FUNDING AND SPENDING UNDER DSS SPENDING. HOWEVER, HERE IN WARREN COUNTY, WE'VE ELECTED TO SEPARATE THE TWO OUT. AND SO IF WE TAKE OUT THE LOCAL CSA SPENDING OF ABOUT 730, $9,000, THE LOCAL SPENDING ON DEPARTMENT SOCIAL SERVICES WAS ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS IN FISCAL YEAR 21 IN RETURN, WE GOT ABOUT $83 MILLION WORTH OF GOODS AND SERVICES BACK. SO WE'RE GIVING YOU ABOUT AN 83 TO ONE RETURN ON YOUR INVESTMENT FOR EVERY DOLLAR SPENT, WE GET ABOUT $83 BACK. THE BULK OF THAT MONEY IS MEDICAID, UH, BETWEEN OUR STATE AND FEDERAL PARTNERS, UM, MEDICAID SERVICES, YOU GO TO THE DOCTOR, YOU'RE GETTING YOUR PRESCRIPTIONS. UM, IF YOU'RE IN THE HOSPITAL AND MEDICAID IS COVERING THAT, THAT'S WHERE THE BULK OF THE MONEY COMES FROM. THAT'S ABOUT, UH, I THINK 76, 60 $7 MILLION. UH, THE NEXT LARGEST POT IS SNAP. ABOUT $8.9 MILLION COMES FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INS WARREN COUNTY SPENDING OUR GROCERY STORES, UM, THROUGH SNAP. SO THAT IS A BOON TO THE ECONOMY, THE LOCAL ECONOMY. AND, UH, WE TRY TO DO OUR PART TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, SERVICES ARE COMING INTO THE RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY ON A CONSISTENT BASIS. THE FINAL SLIDE TALKS ABOUT HOW THE MONEY WE RECEIVE IS SPENT 96.4% OF THE MONEY THAT COMES TO THE WARREN COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES IS SPENT ON SERVICES IS SPENT ON TNF IS SPENT ON SNAP, IS SPENT ON MEDICAID. AND ABOUT 3% OF THE FUNDING THAT WE GET IS SPENT ON STAFF AND OPERATIONS. THE BUILDING, KEEPING THE LIGHTS ON PAYING STAFF AS AN AGENCY THAT WORKS SOLELY ON TAX DOLLARS IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THAT MONEY, NOT SPEND IT FRIVOLOUSLY, NOT SPEND IT ON THINGS THAT AREN'T NEEDED. AND WE'RE PROUD TO SAY THAT 96.4% OF THE MONEY THAT WE RECEIVE GOES DIRECTLY TO THE CITIZENS OF WARREN COUNTY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE IN MY REPORT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS I HAVE A COUPLE, UM, I GO TO YOUR ADVISORY BOARD MEETING EVERY MONTH, EVERY MONTH THAT I CAN ON TRACK, I TRY TO BE CONSISTENT ABOUT IT. UM, I THINK THAT THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO TELL US. AND ONE IS, HOW'S YOUR STAFFING? DO YOU NEED PEOPLE? I'M NEVER GOING TO SAY NO TO PEOPLE BECAUSE WE RUN A PEOPLE. HOWEVER, I'M PROUD TO REPORT THAT AS OF NINE O'CLOCK THIS MORNING, WE WERE NOT ACTIVELY RECRUITING ANY VACANT POSITIONS. THAT'S WONDERFUL. AND AS OF 9 0 5 THIS MORNING, WE ARE NOW ACTIVELY RECRUITING [00:40:01] ONE. SO WE WERE, WE WERE AT THAT THING, WE DON'T SAY OUT LOUD, FULLY STAFFED FOR ABOUT FIVE MINUTES, UH, THIS MORNING, UH, ONE OF OUR, UH, FOSTER CARE WORKERS HAS ACCEPTED A POSITION WITH OUR NEIGHBOR. UM, AND IT'S AS MUCH AS WE HATE TO SEE HER GO IT'S AS A SHORTER JOURNEY FOR HER. UM, OF COURSE IT'S HIGHER PAY FOR HER. UM, BUT WE KNOW WE TRAINED HER WELL, WE KNOW THAT SHE'S GOING TO TAKE THE WARREN WAY TO OTHER AGENCIES, BUT I CAN TELL YOU A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE WERE AT 50% STAFFING. WE HAD MORE VACANCIES THAN WE HAD PEOPLE. UH, I KNOW THAT DOES EQUAL 50%, BUT I TOLD YOU I'M NOT A MATH MAJOR. UH, BUT THROUGH ALL THE HARD WORK OF THE STAFF, UM, NOT ONLY FOR MAKING SURE THE AGENCY KEPT GOING, BUT MAKING SURE THE AGENCY WAS SEEN IN A GOOD LIGHT BY POTENTIAL EMPLOYEES. AND THAT'S THEIR HARD WORK. I GET THE CREDIT FOR IT, BUT I DIDN'T DO IT. THEY DID IT. UM, WE WERE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY RECRUIT AND THE COUNTY, UM, HAS HELPED TREMENDOUSLY AS WELL. UM, LAST YEAR, THE COUNTY MADE SURE THAT WE GOT RAISES SO WE COULD COMPETE, UH, WITH OUR NEIGHBORS OF THE SUPPORT THAT WE GET FROM THE BOARD. AND DR. DALEY IS A MEASURABLE WHEN IT COMES TO YOU ATTRACTING TALENT TO COME INTO YOUR AGENCY. THAT IT'S GREAT TO HEAR. I MEAN, I WAS SO IMPRESSED WHEN I HEARD IT THE OTHER DAY. SECOND THING. UM, YOU HAVE, UH, AN ADMIN STAFF. THAT'S JUST OUTSTANDING. I BELIEVE. TELL ME HOW MANY ARE, TELL US HOW MANY PHONE CALLS DO Y'ALL RECEIVE EVERY MONTH. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE RECEIVE ABOUT 1800 PHONE CALLS A MONTH, OR IS THAT PEOPLE COMING IN? I GET THEM CONFUSED. SHE'S GOING TO GET US THE ACTUAL NUMBER. I KNOW IT'S, I KNOW IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD SIZE NUMBER. AND I THINK 1800 WAS THE PEOPLE THAT CAME IN. I'M NOT SURE THAT, RIGHT. I THINK WE GET ABOUT A THOUSAND PEOPLE A MONTH COMING PHYSICALLY INTO THE OFFICE AND ABOUT 18, 1900 PHONE CALLS. AND THOSE ARE JUST THE ONES THAT GO TO THE FRONT DESK. THOSE AREN'T THE ONES THAT GO DIRECTLY TO THE WORKERS. UH, MY PHONE NEVER RINGS, FORTUNATELY, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT THE ONE THAT DOES ANYTHING. IT'S THE WORKERS WHO ACTUALLY GET THE WORK DONE. IF I DON'T SHOW UP, THEY'RE GOOD. IF THEY DON'T SHOW UP, WE GOT A PROBLEM. WELL, THAT FRONT OFFICE HAS ALWAYS BEEN OUTSTANDING TO ME. AND I'M SURE I NEVER HEARD A BAD WORD COMING OUT OF THAT, THAT ROOM WHEN I WAS THERE. AND OF COURSE I'M ONLY THERE FIVE OR 10 MINUTES, BUT I NEVER HEARD A BAD THING. THAT'S WONDERFUL TO HEAR. OKAY. I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S ABOUT 18 1900 PHONE CALLS A MONTH. THANK YOU. THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS MR. BUTLER? I DON'T WANT TO FORGET YOU UP THERE. WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU DO. OH, SORRY. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. UH, THE, UM, THE S THE DOLLARS THAT WE GET FROM THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL ARE THOSE CONSTANT DOLLARS. I MEAN, LET'S SAY NEXT YEAR DOLLARS MAY BE RE REDUCED. IT WILL BE MORE, IT NEVER GOES DOWN BECAUSE OUR SERVICES, OUR SERVICES CONTINUE TO GO UP. THE NUMBER OF CLIENTS WE SERVE CONTINUE TO GO UP. THE REIMBURSEMENT THAT WE'LL GET FROM OUR PARTNERS BECAUSE OF THE PROGRAMS SPECIFICALLY THE SNAP AND THE MEDICAID WILL CONTINUE. NO, CONTINUE, CONTINUE TO GO UP. AND WITH YOUR STAFFING, WILL YOU SAY YOUR COMPLETE WILD WEST, THE ONE THAT WE JUST FOUND OUT, UM, IS THAT ADEQUATE TO KEEP UP WITH THE VOLUME COMPLICATED QUESTION? I WOULD SAY FOR THE NUMBER OF CASES WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, YES. HOWEVER, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO TO INCREASE THE SERVICES THAT WE CAN PROVIDE TO THE RESIDENTS OF WARREN COUNTY. ONE OF OUR GOALS IS TO OPEN AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER, UH, SO THAT IT'S A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME AND THEY CAN SEARCH FOR JOBS ONLINE. THEY CAN HAVE ASSISTANCE WRITING RESUMES, THEY CAN DO MOCK INTERVIEWS. UM, THEY CAN TAKE JOB READINESS CLASSES LAST YEAR. THE BOARD GRANTED US THE JOB DEVELOPER POSITION, WHERE THE ONLY DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES IN THE NORTHERN REGION OF VIRGINIA THAT HAS ITS OWN JOB DEVELOPER. AND THAT'S THANKS TO THEIR FOREST SIDE OF THIS BOARD. UM, WE WANT TO INCREASE THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING. HOWEVER, WE NEED MORE SPACE FOR THAT CAUSE I'M FULL AMOUNT OF DESKS. UM, I NEED A ROOM WHERE WE CAN TURN IT INTO A CLASSROOM TYPE SETTING WHERE WE CAN PROVIDE THE SERVICES TO ANYBODY WHO WALKS IN THE BEST [00:45:01] PART ABOUT OUR JOB DEVELOPER POSITION IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A CLIENT TO ACCESS OUR SERVICES. YOU JUST HAVE TO BE SOMEBODY WHO WANTS A JOB OR MUST HAVE BETTER JOB, UH, AND SHE'S WILLING TO WORK WITH ANYBODY AND WE'RE NOT CONSTRAINED BY ANY OF THE PROGRAMS BECAUSE IT'S A WARREN COUNTY PROGRAM. THANK YOU. SO MR. MARTINS, UM, IN MY MIND, SUCCESS IS REDUCING THE COST OF THE PROGRAMS. IT'S NOT AN INCREASE EVERY YEAR. SO, UH, WHEN, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE WORKING TOWARD MAKING SO MANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS INDEPENDENT FROM THE PROGRAMS, WHICH THE JOB DEVELOPER IS A, I THINK AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT, IF NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THAT, ARE THERE OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN REDUCE THE COSTS? BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE EVERYBODY ON, YOU KNOW, NOT DEPENDENT ON A SOCIAL PROGRAM TO SURVIVE. AND THERE ARE SEVERAL INDICATORS, UH, AND YOU CAN LOOK AT GENERAL POPULATION, UM, ROLES THAT WOULD INDICATE THE NEED FOR SOCIAL SERVICES. UM, HIGHER POVERTY LEVELS, CHILDREN LIVING IN POVERTY, SINGLE PARENT HOUSEHOLDS, ALL TEND TO MAKE CPS MORE LIKELY ALL TEND TO MAKE SNAP MORE LIKELY IN SOME OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE WANTING TO PUT IN, UH, OR PARENTING CLASSES TO TRY TO PREVENT SITUATIONS FROM OCCURRING BEFORE IT RISES TO THE LEVEL OF CPS. UH, LAST YEAR, THE STATE STARTED FAMILIES FIRST, UH, WHICH IS BASICALLY IN-HOME PREVENTION SERVICES. UH, MAYBE WE GET A PHONE CALL THAT DOESN'T RISE TO THE LEVEL OF A CPS CASE, HOWEVER IT'S CONCERNING. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CONTACT WITH THAT FAMILY NOW BECAUSE OF THOSE POSITIONS, WE CAN GO OUT AND SAY, WE HAVE THESE SERVICES AVAILABLE. UM, WE GOT A CALL. IT DOESN'T RISE TO THE LEVEL OF CPS, BUT ARE YOU INTERESTED? IT'S VOLUNTARY ELLIE, BUT I THINK DANIEL'S GOT 10, 12 CASES HE'S WORKING. AND WHEN HE HSA OUR NEW WORKER, THERE IS WORKING ON OUR CASES AS WELL, PARENTING CLASSES. UM, ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE ALSO STARTING IS OUR MONEY MANAGEMENT CLASSES WITH OUR FRIENDS THAT, UH, THE COOPERATIVE EXTENSION, UH, TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE BUDGET AND PREPARE AND THINK LONG-TERM, UM, SOCIAL SERVICES FOR YEARS HAS BEEN KIND OF A REVOLVING DOOR. UM, THE THOUGHT OF IT WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR GRANDMA. I WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR MOM. IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR MY KIDS. WE ARE TRYING TO TEACH PEOPLE TO WANT MORE TO SAY, IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME JUST GETTING BY BIASED, NOT GOING TO BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR MY KIDS. AND SO TRYING TO BREAK THAT MINDSET WITH DIFFERENT PROGRAMS WHERE THEY USED TO SAY, YOU CAN LEAD A HORSE TO WATER, BUT YOU CAN'T MAKE HIM DRINK. BUT IF THE HORSE DOESN'T KNOW, HE'S THIRSTY, HE'S NEVER GOING TO TAKE A DRINK. SO HELPING PEOPLE REALIZE THAT THERE'S MORE OUT THERE AND WANTING MORE AND TRYING TO GET, UH, PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY COLLEGES. UM, AND I KNOW THE LAST YEAR THE BOARD HAD, UM, APPROVED A GRANT WHERE PEOPLE COULD GO TO, UH, LORD FAIRFAX, FORMERLY LORD FAIRFAX, COMMUNITY COLLEGE AT NO CHARGE, BUT NOBODY KNEW ABOUT IT. AND SO WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW THESE OPPORTUNITIES ARE OUT THERE. I'M BIG BELIEVER THAT EDUCATION PROVIDES OPPORTUNITY. AND I TELL OUR STAFF ALL THE TIME, WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES TO PEOPLE, WHETHER OR NOT THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM, I CAN'T CONTROL, BUT WE CAN CONTROL WHAT OPPORTUNITIES WE PUT OUT THERE AND MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY'RE THERE. AND SO GETTING THE WORD OUT TO WHAT OUR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS ARE, STARTING PROGRAMS LIKE MONEY MANAGEMENT AND EDUCATION AND JOB DEVELOPMENT, SO THAT WE CAN WORK WITH OUR CITIZENS HERE IN WARREN COUNTY TO SEE THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE OUT THERE. THAT'S ONE OF OUR GOALS. OUR MAIN FOCUS IS GOING INTO THIS NEXT YEAR AS LETTING PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE. ULTIMATELY, OUR GOAL IS TO PUT OURSELVES OUT OF BUSINESS. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO NEED FOR SOCIAL SERVICES GOING FORWARD MAY NOT HAPPEN IN MY LIFETIME, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING. AND IF THAT'S NOT YOUR GOAL, YOU SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS BUSINESS. WHAT, WHAT TIME OF DAY WOULD IT BE DAYTIME IF YOU HAD SPACE TO DO THOSE CLASSES OR EVENING? WELL, BOTH. IDEALLY IT WOULD BE BOTH. I WOULD NEED MORE STAFFING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, BUT I CAN RIGHT NOW, IF I HAVE THE SPACE, I COULD RUN THEM DURING THE DAY. NOT A PROBLEM. OKAY. SO DO YOU HAVE, UM, SO STAFFING, COULD YOU USE THE FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS? SO I WILL TELL YOU I'VE DONE PARENTING CLASSES. I'VE, I'VE LED THEM MYSELF. UM, WHEN WE HAD A WOMEN'S SHELTER HERE IN WARREN COUNTY, UH, I WAS DOING A PARENTING CLASS FOR MY CHURCH, BUT THE WOMEN'S SHELTER REFERRED PEOPLE [00:50:01] TO THE CLASS. AND SO I HAD A NUMBER OF WOMEN WHO ATTENDED THAT CLASS. SO COULD YOU CREATE A PARTNERSHIP WITH, WITH THE FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS BECAUSE THEY HAD DO LOTS OF WONDERFUL PARENTING STUDIES? YES MA'AM YEAH. YEAH. SO THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION WHERE IT DOESN'T COST US REALLY ANY MONEY, JUST A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE DONATING THEIR TIME. WELL, I'VE GOT SOME IDEAS SPINNING IN MY HEAD, SO WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE SOME THINGS OUT. OKAY. UH, IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO, TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD. AND AS ALWAYS, IF THERE'S EVER A QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE OR A CONCERN, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US. I WILL MAKE SURE KRISTI RETURNS YOUR PHONE CALL AND IMMEDIATELY. THANKS. THANK YOU. THANKS CHRISTIE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. HOARD REPORTS, [G. Reports – Board Members, County Administrator, Interim County Attorney] MRS. OATS. ALL RIGHT, HOLD ON JUST A SECOND. I WASN'T PREPARED. YOU WANT ME TO GO? YEP. LET ME FIND MY NOTES CAUSE IT'S OKAY. MR. BUTLER, DO YOU HAVE ANY REPORT? I'M CATCHING EVERYBODY OFF GUARD. I'M READY. OKAY. UM, SO MADAM CHAIRMAN, UM, LAST WEEK WHO IT WAS A BUSY WEEK WITH THE SNOW, EVEN, IT WAS STILL BUSY. UM, SO ON FRIDAY OR THURSDAY MORNING, I MET WITH DR. BALLENGER FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS AND WE DISCUSSED, UM, IT'S SO IMPORTANT. I THINK, UH, MR. MARCH JUST BROUGHT UP OR, OR EVEN MR. CHILDS OF GETTING KIDS BACK INTO, UH, OR OUTSIDE OF THE WALLS OF THE SCHOOLS AND BACK INTO ACTIVITIES AND PROGRAMS. AND SO I TALKED TO DR. BALLENGER AND ALSO DR. DALEY ABOUT, UH, GOING BACK. I THINK THERE USED TO BE A GOVERNMENT DAY. UH, WE USED TO HAVE A GOVERNMENT DAY WHERE STUDENTS WHO WERE IN THE CIVICS CLASSES AND THE GOVERNMENT CLASSES, EVEN THE SOCIAL SCIENCES CLASSES COULD COME AND BE, UM, A GOVERNMENT REPRESENTATIVE OR GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE FOR A DAY. AND, UM, SO WE ARE GOING TO START ACTIVELY WORKING ON REINSTATING THAT PROGRAM OR, YOU KNOW, REBOOTING IT IN WARREN COUNTY SO WE CAN GIVE STUDENTS, UM, THE ACTUAL EXPERIENCE. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO RUN FOR GOVERNMENT OFFICE OR THEY'RE AFRAID TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. SO IF YOU HAVE KIDS THAT ARE MORE ACCLIMATED AND COMFORTABLE IN THESE ENVIRONMENTS, I THINK THAT WE'LL GET MORE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION, UM, IN THE FUTURE. SO THAT'S ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT IS GETTING KIDS INVOLVED IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT. UM, I ALSO DID A ZOOM CALL WITH THE TOURISM BOARD, UM, OR THE TWO B TOURISM BOARD. AND I JUST WANT TO DO A SHOUT OUT SHE'S HERE. ALYSSA SCOTT WROTE, UM, AN ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT, UM, THAT WE ARE GOING TO USE WITH THE TOURISM BOARD. UM, AND SO I JUST WANT TO SHOUT OUT TO HER. IT WAS SO WELL DONE. AND SO EVERY ASPECT WAS COVERED. THERE WERE NO QUESTIONS, IT WAS CLEAR. UM, SO WE HAVE MOVED THAT FORWARD AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT ESTABLISHING A JOINT TOURISM BOARD, UM, THAT WE CAN SUPPORT BOTH TOWN AND COUNTY IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY AND USE OUR CITIZENS TAX DOLLARS TO THE BEST THAT WE CAN USE THEM. AND THEN THE FINAL THING IS I PROMISED ALL OF YOU THE POSITIVE MOMENT, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY SHOUT OUT TO THE PEOPLE WHO ORGANIZED GATHERING TOYS FOR THE CHILDREN OF KENTUCKY, WHO HAD A, UH, LOSS, HUGE LOSS IN THEIR HOMES AND THEIR TORNADOES FOUR DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS AND OR ABOUT A WEEK BEFORE CHRISTMAS AND A WHOLE GROUP OF FOLKS HERE ORGANIZED COLLECTED TOYS, COLLECTED THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF GIFT CARDS FOR THE OLDER, UH, TEENAGE, UH, KIDS, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO BUY THEM. SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BETTER THAN A GIFT CARD. SO ANYWAY, THEY, THEY, UH, PUT, FILLED UP A HUGE TRAILER, DROVE IT TO KENTUCKY AND DELIVERED IT TO THESE KIDS FOUR DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS, YOU KNOW? AND SO I, WARREN COUNTY IS A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE. THERE ARE GENEROUS, COMPASSIONATE PEOPLE HERE, AND WE DON'T HIGHLIGHT THAT ENOUGH. SO I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT THAT. SO THAT'S MY REPORT. THANK YOU. MA'AM MR. BUTLER, DO YOU HAVE ANY REPORT? NO, MA'AM I DO NOT HAVE A REPORT AT THIS TIME SINCE I'VE BEEN OUT OF ACTION FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS, WE DID HAVE A, UH, UH, AN INTERVIEW AND I'M SURE THAT, UH, UH, MS. UH, UH, COOK RECOVER, COVER THAT 40. THANK YOU. OKAY, MRS. COOK. OKAY. MAKE SURE I'VE GOT THIS HERE. CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? OKAY. SO FIRST OF ALL, UM, I ATTENDED THE FIRST IT USER COMMITTEE FOR THE COUNTY AND WHERE THE IT DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THE IT DIRECTOR GOT TOGETHER TO DISCUSS THE IT, UM, PROJECTS [00:55:01] AND THINGS, AND SOME CONCERNS THAT THEY MAY HAVE. UM, IT WAS VERY POSITIVE TO SEE THE DIALOGUE BETWEEN BOTH THE COMMITTEE AND THE HEADS, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING IT GROW INTO OUR OPERATIONS. UM, ALSO I ATTENDED THE SCHOOL BOARDS SECOND STEP OPEN HOUSE AT THE WARREN COUNTY, UM, UH, MIDDLE SCHOOL AND JESSE JEFFERY JEFF, CAUSE I'M SORRY, JEFF, RECCE REST OF THE JEFFERSON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. THANK YOU. AND I WANT TO THANK THE SCHOOL STAFF FOR, UM, UH, HOSTING THE OPEN HOUSE AND, UM, THEM ANSWERING ALL MY QUESTIONS, AS WELL AS SHARING THE, UH, STUDENT MATERIALS OF WHAT THIS PROGRAM IS ALL ABOUT. AND I JUST WANTED TO ENCOURAGE PARENTS TO CONTACT YOUR, YOUR SCHOOL BOARD OR YOUR PRINCIPAL, IF YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO BE AT THE OPEN HOUSE TO SEE WHAT THIS PROGRAM IS ALL ABOUT. SO THEY CAN REALLY MAKE A REALLY WELL INFORMED DECISION ON IF THEY WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THIS PROGRAM OR OPT OUT. UM, ALSO I ATTENDED WITH MR. GATE HERE MADE HERE ON THE SAMUEL LIBRARY, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE LIBRARY COMMISSION MEETING. UM, IT WAS MY FIRST MEETING AND IT WAS REALLY NICE. AND, UH, THEY ALSO ANNOUNCED THAT THEY HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE VIRGINIA OF HEALTH AND THEY HAVE SOME COVID FREE COVID TESTS THAT AVAILABLE. UM, AND THEY ALSO ARE IN THE, OF PAIRING FOR THEIR, THESE EVENTS THE DAY, THE DAY OF GIVING AND THE TASTE OF BOOKS EVENTS. SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD AND SEEING HOW ALL THAT PLANNING HAS PUT TOGETHER. AND THEN AS MR. BUTLER BROUGHT UP LAST NIGHT, WE, UM, INTERVIEWED, UM, UH, PEOPLE FOR THE AIRPORT COMMISSION. AND THEN WE'LL LATER ON, YOU KNOW, IN A CLOSED SESSION TO SHARE OUR, UM, COMMENTS TO THE BOARD. AND LASTLY THAT WE HAVE TO EDA COMMISSIONED, UM, BOARD VACANCIES. AND, UH, IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED, PLEASE SUBMIT WHAT THEY CALL THE CITIZEN APPOINTMENT APPLICATION THAT CAN BE FOUND ON OUR WEB PAGE UNDER HOW DO I APPLY FOR A JOB. SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN GET SOME, UM, FOLKS WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF THAT COMMISSION. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. ROOMMATE. AH, YES. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR. UM, I MET WITH THE, UH, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND WELCOMED HER BACK. UM, THAT WOULD, TO ME WAS BIG BECAUSE, UM, SHE HAD BEEN SICK AND BEEN A WHILE AND IT WAS GOOD TO SEE HER BACK OR SMILING FACE. AND, UH, I'M GLAD THAT SHE W I'M GLAD THAT SHE WAS HERE AND HERE NOW. UM, AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE TOWN AND ALL OF THE COUNTY FOR THE SNOW REMOVAL PROCESS. I MEAN, THEY HAD A TOUGH JOB OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS. IT'S COLD. UM, THEY, UH, THEY DID EVERYTHING THEY COULD TO GET SNOW OUT OF THE WAY SO WE COULD KEEP PEOPLE MOVING. AND I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO MOVE. UM, I VISITED WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY OVER THE, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. I ALSO MET WITH WARREN COUNTY IN THE FRONT ROW CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. UM, MET WITH SIMON'S PUBLIC LIBRARY, TWICE ONE WAS WITH, UH, THE BOARD MEETING, UH, AND THAT WAS, UH, EXCEPTIONAL. UH, SAN JOSE PUBLIC LIBRARY IS DOING A GREAT JOB. UM, HAD A ZOOM MEETING WITH VACO. SO WE LEARNED ABOUT SOME, SOME OF THE STUFF THAT VIRGINIA, UH, IS DOING FOR US AND HELPING US WITH. UM, WE ALSO HAD THE, THE, THE NONPROFIT BUDGET REQUESTS MEETING THAT WE HAD, WE SHARED, UH, ON THE 25TH, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE, UH, THAT COVERED ALL OF THE COUNTY WORK PROGRESS. IS THAT WAS, THAT WAS OUTSTANDING. I, THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE I HAD BEEN TO. IT WAS GOOD TO SEE, UM, RSW JAIL MEETING, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES, THE ADVISORY MEETING. AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, I GAVE YOU ALL A LITTLE PIECE OF PAPER OR A LITTLE FOLDER THAT, UM, IT'S CALLED OCTOPUS, AND THAT WAS YESTERDAY. IT'S ABOUT HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND IT IS ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES THAT I HAD EVER HAD A SIT DOWN MEETING WITH ANY GROUP IN THE COUNTY THAT ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT IT. THEY TALKED TO NATIONALLY ABOUT IT. UH, I ASKED FOR SPECIFICS AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET WITH THE SHERIFF AND WITH, UM, POLICE CHIEF, JUST TO SEE IF WE COULD GET SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, BUT I'LL HONESTLY TELL YOU TO READ THE BOOK. IT'S A LITTLE WORKBOOK. IT TELLS YOU THINGS THAT I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT HUMAN TRAFFICKING. SO, UM, UH, THERE'LL BE MORE TO COME ON THAT, UH, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOMEBODY IN HERE TO TALK WITH US. UM, BUT, UM, [01:00:01] THAT'S MY REPORT. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. UM, I WANT TO START OUT THINKING ALL OF OUR STAFF THAT WORKED DURING THE SNOW EVENTS, UH, DECLARE THE ROADS, PARKING LOTS SOLID WASTE STATIONS SO THAT PEOPLE COULD GET IN AND OUT WAS COLD. AND, UM, HAVING A FAMILY MEMBER THAT'S WORKED THAT FOR MANY YEARS. I KNOW IT, IT TAKES A TOLL ON YOU AND YOU GUYS, WE APPRECIATE YOU ALSO LIKE TO THINK OUR FIRE AND EMS, UM, STAFF AND PAID STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS THAT YOU GUYS HAD A ROUGH TIME OF IT TOO. AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DID TO GET OUT THERE. AND OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT DON'T WANT TO FORGET THEM. THEY HAD TO GET OUT THERE AS WELL. AND THEN THE 9 1, 1 OPERATORS THAT TAKE ALL THOSE CALLS. UH, IT'S, UH, IT'S A HUGE UNDERTAKING. AND WHEN PEOPLE STAY HOME AND STAY OFF THE ROAD AS POSSIBLE, THAT MAKES IT SO MUCH EASIER ON ALL THESE GROUPS. SO, UM, THINK WE HAVE SOME MORE WEATHER COMING IN POSSIBLY THIS WEEKEND, AND I CAN TELL YOU, UH, SNOWS ONE THING, FOLKS, BUT ICE IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO ANYWHERE FRIDAY. SOUNDS LIKE IT'D BE BETTER STAY HOME. UM, I WAS, I'M ALWAYS A WEEK BEHIND OR TWO WEEKS BEHIND ON NATIONAL VIS OR THAT DAY. SO TRYING TO LIGHTEN THE MOOD A LITTLE AFTER SOME OF THE THINGS, UM, I'VE GOOGLED THAT THIS MORNING, AND TODAY IS NATIONAL DARK CHOCOLATE DAY. IT IS ALSO NATIONAL BAKED ALASKA DAY, NATIONAL GETUP DAY. NOW I'M NOT REAL SURE ABOUT THAT ONE, UH, NATIONAL SERPENT DAY AND NATIONAL TEXAS DAY, AS WELL AS NATIONAL FREEDOM DAY, WHICH I THINK IS THE MOST IMPORTANT OUT OF ALL OF THOSE. UM, AND LASTLY, I WANT TO EXTEND OUR SYMPATHY TO THE FAMILIES OF THE FOUR YOUNG MEN INVOLVED IN THAT BOATING ACCIDENT, ESPECIALLY TO THE TWO FAMILIES AT LAST. AND PLEASE PRAY THAT THEY FIND THAT YOUNG MAN, THAT'S AWFUL. SORRY. CAN'T IMAGINE. SO I WILL TURN IT OVER TO DR. DAILY NOW. THANK YOU. MA'AM UM, REMIND YOU THAT THIS AFTERNOON, WE START, WE HAVE A CLOSED SESSION. AND AFTER THAT, YOU START WITH YOUR PARTNERS AGENCIES WHO WILL COMING IN FOR BUDGET PRESENTATIONS AND THAT NEXT FRIDAY, NEXT TUESDAY, YOU HAVE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS. AND, UH, EACH OF THE DEPARTMENT NEEDS LOTS OF MORE PEOPLE AND LOTS MORE STAFF AND LOTS MORE MONEY. SO BE PREPARED AND KNOW THAT THAT'S WHERE LAST WEEK I TOLD YOU WE WERE 1,000,008, 2000, RATHER IN, OUT OF WHACK ON THE BUDGET. WELL, I LIED. WE ARE WITH A MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL STAFF ON FRIDAY AND MR. ROBERTSON AND I ARE NOW 1.8 MILLION APART FROM TRYING TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. SO IT GREW BY APPROXIMATELY 50%. UM, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT. DON'T FORGET YOUR MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD ON FEBRUARY THE 22ND. NEXT WEEK, YOU JUST HAVE THE AGENCIES, UNLESS THE BOARD SO DESIRES. WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A WORK SESSION THAT EVENING. IF THERE ARE ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO COVER, WE CAN ADDRESS THEM. BUT OUR THOUGHT IS THAT IF YOU'RE HERE FROM NINE TO THREE, THAT'S PROBABLY LONG ENOUGH AND YOU'LL BE READY, GET TIRED OF OUR SMILING FACES. UM, ON THE 15TH, WE JUST HAVE THE REGULAR MEETING. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS. IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO COVER AT A WORK SESSION AT SIX O'CLOCK, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT AT THIS POINT WE'RE JUST PLANNING. THERE WILL BE NO BUDGET WORK AT THAT TIME. UM, I WANT TO, UH, WELCOME MRS. LOGAN BACK, WHO WAS HERE AND WE'RE MOVING SOME THINGS ALONG. UH, THE COUNTY IS VERY PLEASED TO APPOINT MR. JOE PETTY AS A DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFECTIVE TODAY. AND JOE WILL BE CONTINUING HIS WORK WITH PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. WE WILL BE ADVERTISING THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR POSITION IMMEDIATELY, BUT UNTIL THAT'S PHIL, JOE IS GOING TO BE PRIMARILY WITH PLANNING, BUT HE WILL BE HELPING US WITH SOME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PARTICULARLY THE PROJECT THAT, UH, THE BOARD IS AWARE OF WHAT THAT WE ARE, HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING WITH THE TOWN IN THE NORTH DISTRICT. AND, UH, MR. PETTY WILL BE WORKING WITH THE BOARD, OUR COUNTY STAFF, PEOPLE. HE WILL BE WORKING WITH, UH, THE EDA AT TIMES. HE WILL BE [01:05:01] WORKING WITH THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL. HE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, OUR STATE AGENCIES, AND DISCOVER FRONT ROYAL TO PROMOTE TOURISM AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT WARREN COUNTY. AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. I ALSO WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT EFFECTIVE TODAY, THE BOARD HAS APPOINTED CHASE LENS AS THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, WHICH IS A PROMOTION FROM WHERE HE HAS BEEN, SO THAT WE CAN TAKE THE ZONING A LITTLE FURTHER OFF MR. PETTY'S PLATE THAN WHERE IT IS THERE. AND LET JAYCE MOVE UP AND TAKE CARE OF THAT. HE'S BEEN WITH US FOR A WHILE AND DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB. WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE HIM MOVE UP INTO THERE AND HE IS A UVA GRADUATE. AND, UM, MRS. WAS VERY PLEASED AT THAT. WITH THAT. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS MAYBE. WELL, I WOULD JUST WANT TO SAY HOW EXCITED I AM THAT JOE PETTY HAS TAKEN THAT POSITION AND HAVING TALKED WITH HIM AND KNOW HIS LOVE OF WARREN COUNTY AND THE BRIGHT IDEAS HE HAS IT. I, I'M VERY ENCOURAGED AT THE DIRECTION THAT, THAT, UH, THAT CAN GO. AND SO CONGRATULATIONS. AND WELL-DESERVED ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I ALSO WANT TO PUT MY CONGRATULATIONS OUT TO JOE. I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO A GREAT JOB. OKAY. UM, MR. HAM MINI REPORT, I HAVE NO REPORT. OKAY. [H. Approval of Minutes a. Regular Meeting of December 14, 2021 b. Regular Meeting of January 4, 2022] WE'RE DOWN TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS, UM, PRESENTED OR ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? MADAM CHAIR? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FOR DECEMBER 14TH, 2021 AND JANUARY 4TH, 2022. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MR. BUTLER, MRS. OATS, THAT MUTE BUTTON STINKS. I HAVE TO TELL YOU, MADAM CHAIR, I MRS. COOK I MR. MABE AND [I. Consent Agenda] DOWN TO NEW BUSINESS, THE CONSENT AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS TO PULL FOR DISCUSSION? I HEAR NONE. SO I MOVE THAT. WE APPROVE THE CONSENT. WELL, I ACTUALLY WANTED TO PULL NUMBER FIVE JUST BECAUSE I WASN'T ABLE TO CONNECT TO ASK QUESTIONS YESTERDAY. UM, OTHER THAN THAT IS, IF NOT, SO I, I WILL MOVE THAT. WE ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NUMBER FIVE. I'M SURE. IS THERE A SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MR. MABE, MRS. COOK. I MADAM CHAIR. I MRS. OATES. HI, MR. BUTLER. OKAY. ITEM [5. Purchase of One (1) Bobcat Compact Track Loader for the Public Works Department – Alisa Scott/Mike Berry] FIVE IS PURCHASE OF ONE BOBCAT, COMPACT TRACK LOADER FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. AND THAT'S MRS. SCOTT. AND, UM, MR. BARRY, I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UM, IS THIS REPLACEMENT OR IS THIS A NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT'S NEEDED TO DO WHAT WE CAN'T DO WITH OTHER EQUIPMENT? THIS IS MEDITERRA BOARD MEMBERS. THIS IS A NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. WE DID. I HAVE A BOBCAT. UM, WE'LL BE USING IT FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE. UM, WE WOULD USE IT, UM, RIGHT NOW. IT'D BE GREAT FOR, UM, WE HAD A CALL ABOUT SNOW REMOVAL AT THE AIRPORT. IT'D BE GOOD TO TRY TO MOVE SOME OF THOSE PILES OUT THERE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY GRADING EQUIPMENT. UM, WE OFTEN TYPICALLY ANNUALLY RENT, UM, A MACHINE, SOME OF THE LISTS FOR THE CLOSED LANDFILL WHEN WE'RE DOING MAINTENANCE FOR PARENTS OUT THERE, IT WOULD BE USED. AND MR. KOHLFELD, I THINK PUT A LIST TOGETHER IF YOU KNOW HIS DESIRES AND NEEDS, BUT, UM, AND DITCHING AND ALL THE SANITARY DISTRICTS, UM, LAKEFRONT, ROWLAND HEIGHTS, WILDCAT DRIVE, SHANNON WAS OSCOPY LANE. UM, AND THEN OF COURSE WE DO SOME WORK FOR SHANNON FARMS AS WELL. SO WE WOULD USE IT ON A REGULAR BASIS. UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR OUR ROAD MAINTENANCE, NEVER MOVEMENT OR SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT, SOMETHING WE PLANNED TO DO. UM, AS WE BUILT THE PROGRAM, UM, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF PURCHASED EQUIPMENT AS WE MOVED ALONG THE WAY. UM, THE ONLY THING WE HAVE CURRENTLY IS TRACTORS AND WE HAVE ONE, UM, MANY X IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. WE DON'T HAVE, UH, UH, ANY KIND OF A SKID-STEER OR LOADER. OKAY. IS IT GOING TO HAVE A STEEL TRACKS OR RUBBER TRACKS? RUBBER TRACKS. OKAY. THAT WAS THE OTHER THING I WAS, CAUSE I KNOW YOU CAN'T RUN STEEL ONES ON STATE, YOU KNOW, STATE ROADS. UM, SO THAT WAS THE OTHER QUESTION. AND WE PLAN [01:10:02] TO CHARGE THE SANITARY DISTRICTS A FEE FOR THE USE OF IT TO HELP RECOUP THE COST. OKAY. WELL, THOSE WERE THE QUESTIONS I HAD. YEAH. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND FOR THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE CHARGE A FEE FOR THE WORK AND THE EQUIPMENT TIME, I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE ABOUT $140,000 IN REVENUE EXCLUDING THE MOST RECENT CHARGES FOR THE YEAR. OKAY. THANK YOU. DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS PURCHASE? MADAM CHAIR, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND ROW COLUMN IS SHIRAKI MR. BUTLER, MRS. OATES. HI, MADAM CHAIR. I MRS. COOK, MR. MABE. OKAY. [J. Purchase of One (1) 2023 Pierce Enforcer Pumper and Budget Transfer – Alisa Scott/Chief James Bonzano] ITEM J PURCHASE OF 1 20 23, PIERS, ENFORCER, PUMPER AND BUDGET TRANSFER. MRS. SCOTT AND CHIEF. ANZANO. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. THIS MORNING. WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THE REQUEST TO PURCHASE A NEW 2023 PIERCE PUMPER FOR FIRE AND RESCUE. THE METHOD OF PROCUREMENT IS COOPERATIVE CONTRACTING, AND WE EXPECT TO RECEIVE THE PUMPER IN ABOUT 18 MONTHS. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY PROCUREMENT QUESTIONS AND CHIEF FUNDS ON OKAYED ANSWER. ANY STATEMENT OF NEED OR ANY SPECIFICATION QUESTIONS. MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE YOU BEGIN, I WANT TO POINT OUT THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THE BOARD WILL DO TODAY IS TO GET US A NEW PIECE OF FIRE EQUIPMENT. CAN I SAY, CAN I ASK WHY? SO, BECAUSE WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF EQUIPMENT THAT IS ON IT'S WORKING AND THEY DO THE VERY BEST THEY CAN. THEY DO AN AWESOME JOB, BUT THIS EQUIPMENT IS OLD AND THERE'S ABOUT 10 TRUCKS OR THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED TODAY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY IT'S LIKE THE AMBULANCES WHERE WE DIDN'T DO ANY, FURLONGS LIKE YOUR SCHOOL BUSES. IF YOU DON'T REPLACE THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS, THEN THEY START TO BACK UP AND THIS WILL START THAT PROCESS AND IT NEEDS TO GET STARTED. SO IS THERE A PLAN TO CREATE A FUND LIKE WE DID WITH THE SCHOOL BUS FUND TO ANTICIPATE THE REPLACEMENT OF THESE ITEMS OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS? BECAUSE THAT TO ME IS, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE DO AT MY HOUSE. IF WE NEED TO REPLACE SOMETHING, WE SAVE LITTLE. YEAH. SO ARE WE DOING DOING THAT? YES. I CAN ACTUALLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE WE'RE INVOLVED IN A CAPITAL ASSET REPLACEMENT PROGRAM. WE JUST STARTED IT. WE'VE HIRED VIA BELL VACO TO HELP US ESTABLISH THE PLAN AND THEN ESTABLISH POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. WHAT DEFINES A CAPITAL ASSET, WHAT'S THE EXPECTED LIFE OF THE ASSET AND WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE TYING THAT TO OUR DEBT MANAGEMENT. SO THE DEBT MANAGEMENT WILL BE ABLE TO BACK UP THE ASSETS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED. I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE HERE. THAT'S A GREAT, GREAT, THANK YOU. THAT'S GREAT. YEAH. AND I THINK CHIEF MANZANO CAN GIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M ON THE FIRE CHIEF'S COMMITTEE AND, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR QUITE A WHILE. AND I THINK I'VE TRIED TO INFORM, I DON'T THINK I'VE BROKEN IT DOWN INTO NUMBERS IS VERSUS THE OVERALL CONDITION OF WHAT THE ENTIRE SYSTEM ACROSS THE COUNTY IS. BUT I KNOW CHIEF CAN GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW MANY PUMPERS WE ACTUALLY HAVE AND AT WHAT LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE AT ANY GIVEN TIME. CAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN BORROWING FROM OTHER COUNTIES TO HELP SUPPLEMENT. WOW. AND I ABSOLUTELY, IF YOU WANT TO GOOD MORNING. UH, SO THANK YOU. AND, UH, THANK YOU DR. DAILY. AND THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, UM, COLLEAGUES, BOARD SUPERVISORS. SO, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE DETAILS AND I'LL PROVIDE THOSE FOR YOU, UM, SUFFICE TO SAY THERE IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT OF THE DEPARTMENT, UM, STAFFING, UM, ASSET ALLOCATION, SPECIFICALLY EQUIPMENT AND APPARATUS, EMERGENCY APPARATUS, AS WELL AS, UM, UH, FACILITIES IS OUR PRIORITY. AND AS SUCH, I WILL HAVE ALL THOSE THINGS IN FRONT OF YOU. SO YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AND SPECIFICALLY ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL BE GLAD TO ENTERTAIN THOSE, BUT SUFFICE TO SAY ON THE NEEDS ARE MANY. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PRIORITIZE WITHIN THAT, WORKING WITH, UH, ALYSSA AND MATT, DR. DALEY, AND NOT TRYING TO BE, DO OUR DILIGENCE TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE MONEY. UM, SO WE'RE TAKING THEM ONE AT A TIME AS ELEPHANTS AND, AND AS SUCH, WE'RE TRYING [01:15:01] TO REALLY REDUCE OUR FOOTPRINT, UM, TO MS. KOHLER'S POINT. WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, THE DISTRICT SHE'S IN THE VOLUNTEER MEMBERSHIP, A LARGE CONTINGENT OF THIS APPARATUS IS VOLUNTEER OWNED, ESPECIALLY WITH SUPPRESSION ASSETS. AND SO A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT THERE IS WE'RE TRYING TO PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND NOT LOOK AT SILOED APPROACHES, BUT MORE OF A SYSTEM WIDE APPROACH IS HOW TO LEVERAGE THAT APPROACH, UM, TO MAYBE POTENTIALLY REDUCE OUR FOOTPRINT, TO BE MORE SPECIFIC AND DELIBERATE IN WHAT WE'RE BUYING AND WHY. UM, SO IT SERVES THE SYSTEM AND NOT ANY ONE SPECIFIC SUBSET AND THEN LEVERAGE PRIORITY AMONGST OUR BOUNDARIES. AND I COULD GET INTO WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT IN ESSENCE, BE VERY SPECIFIC WITH A TANKER PUMPER CONCEPT, WHICH YOU'RE HERE TO HEAR ABOUT TODAY. AND THEN ALSO MAYBE SURROUNDING OUR COUNTY WITH TANKERS TO SUPPORT THOSE OPERATIONS FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT, A LOT OF FANCY WORDS TO SAY, WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY, VERY GOOD EFFICIENT IN, UH, IN, IN LOOKING AT THE ECONOMY, BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT I'M WORKING BACK FROM THE CITIZEN BASE ON HOW BEST TO SERVE THEM. SO DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? SO, YEAH, SO AT SOME POINT WE WILL GET A REPORT ON THE OVERALL HEALTH OF THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT AND WHAT THE, THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT RES REVEALED AND HOW MUCH WE SHOULD PLAN FOR THE FUTURE, BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT I THINK THAT WE START INVESTING A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME IN YES, MA'AM AND, AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT JUST LIMITED TO THE APPARATUS AND EQUIPMENT. THE WHOLE WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THE ROLLING STOCK IS ONE PIECE OF IT, UM, FACILITIES. AND OF COURSE THE ACTUAL STAFFING AS WELL, BUT YEAH, WE'LL WORK, WE'RE TILING TYING DOLLAR FIGURES TO THEM. UM, AND YOU KNOW, IT, AS WE LOOK AT AN AMBULANCE, AS AN EXAMPLE, ARE OUR MEDIC UNITS, PARAMEDIC UNITS, UM, FIRETRUCKS, WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY SPECIFIC AND IT, AND IT'S TOUGH RIGHT NOW BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I CAME IN THE DEPARTMENT SOME CLOSE TO 40 YEARS AGO, UM, THERE WERE LIKE SIX OR SEVEN VENDORS. YOU COULD DEAL WITH THEIRS, IT'S DOWN TO THREE AND FRANKLY, TO, UM, AND AS SUCH, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT MARKET SEGMENT IS TIGHT. SO AS AN EXAMPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE ORDER TODAY, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 18, 19 MONTH DELIVERY PERIOD. UM, IF WE GO PAST THIS POINT, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 30 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR, MORE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO RAISE THE PRICE ON THAT SAME FIRE TRUCK TOMORROW. AND THAT IS SIMPLY THE MARKET. SECOND WE'RE DEALING TOO. IT'S NOT ATYPICAL ALSO WHEN YOU SEE IT IN THE CARS AND THE HOMES WE'RE BUYING AS WELL. SO, UM, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SO IT'S, I PROMISE YOU YOU'LL HAVE ALL THE DETAILS IN FRONT OF YOU. UM, WE'RE TRYING TO FORECAST OUR NEEDS IN THOSE THREE CATEGORIES AND WE'RE TRYING TO PRIORITIZE, EXCUSE ME, PRIORITIZE WITHIN THEM. AND YOU'RE, AND YOU MENTIONED THAT THAT THE APPARATUS WAS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE VOLUNTEER UNITS, WHICH MEANS THAT THOSE PIECES WERE TYPICALLY FUNDRAISED TO PURCHASE. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM THEY ARE NOW THE ONE WE'RE PURCHASING TODAY IS ACTUALLY WILL BE OWNED BY WARREN COUNTY FIRE RESCUE SPECIFICALLY. IT IS EARMARKED TO GO TO STATION SIX AND WE'LL TAKE THAT PIECE OF APPARATUS TO MS. COLOR'S POINT AND PUT IT IN A RESERVE STANDING THAT'S IN A PERFECT WORLD, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING EVERYTHING ELSE STAYS THE WAY IT IS. UM, BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF MEAT ON THAT BONE. SO LET'S LET ME SPEAK ABOUT THE SUPPRESSION SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND SPECIFICALLY THE VOLUNTEER ASSETS THEY'RE STRUGGLING, THEY'RE STRUGGLING BECAUSE OF THE REASONS YOU JUST STATED IN THE COMPETING INTEREST OF RAISING MONEY. UM, AND IT'S A FINITE NUMBER. AND THAT NUMBER THAT I JUST REFERRED TO IN THE PURCHASE OF FIRE APPARATUS IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. SO HOW BEST TO DO THAT? THAT'S WHY I'M HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE VOLUNTEER MEMBERSHIP TO SEE IF WE CAN GAIN SOME ECONOMIES OF SCALE OR SOME EFFICIENCY IN LEVERAGING OUR SIZE TOGETHER VERSUS A SOLID APPROACH OR ONE, ONE ONE-OFF APPROACH, ONE BY ONE BY ONE IT'S. SO DOES THE STATE, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, THE STATE HAS CONTRACTS TO PURCHASE THESE, YOU KNOW, OR AUTOMOBILES AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. IS THAT AN OPTION FOR US? ALYSSA? DO WE HAVE, DO THEY HAVE STATE CONTRACTS WHERE YOU CAN GET THESE ITEMS FOR LESS, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, LEVERAGE YOUR, UH, YOUR LARGER GROUP ABOUT THE EVA SYSTEM? I DON'T KNOW IF THE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT'S CALLED. WE DEFINITELY WILL BE USING THE EVA SYSTEM SYSTEM TO SOLICIT ANY LARGE PURCHASES. THEY DO HAVE VEHICLES. THIS PARTICULAR PURCHASE WAS MADE THROUGH THE HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA COUNCIL. AND THAT IS A COOPERATIVE, UH, VEHICLE THAT WE CAN USE TO PURCHASE LARGE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT. ACTUALLY, I WANT TO TAKE A SHOUT OUT TOO, TO THE FIRE RESCUE STAFF, BECAUSE IN ADDITION TO GETTING THIS COOPERATIVE CONTRACT IN PRICE, THEY ALSO REACHED OUT TO TWO OTHER VENDORS TO GET PRICING FOR PUMPERS AND TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST FOR SPECIFICATIONS. AND THIS WAS THE LOWEST BID. SO THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE BEST PIECE OF EQUIPMENT FOR IT. IT WAS THE MOST VALUABLE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, BUT WE WILL BE USING EVA IN THE FUTURE. THAT'S GOOD. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS THE, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A VEHICLE, UH, NO PUN INTENDED A VEHICLE TO BUY THE VEHICLE SUDDENLY [01:20:01] IS ANYWAY, IF I MAY TOO, I, I ALSO TO KIND OF RIDE COATTAILS ON ALYSSA SAID BOTH, UH, IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM, YOU HAVE A LIEUTENANT RICCIARDO AND CAPTAIN MICKEY CRNA, AND THEY DID THE, THE SHARE OF ALL THIS WORK. AND WHILE I MAY GET CREDIT, I TEND TO KIND OF STEAL JOHN'S WORDS. UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DID ALL THE WORK AND THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB. AND I'M TALKING ABOUT DIVING INTO THE DETAILS, SQUEEZING THE PENNIES AND MAKING SURE THE SPECIFICATIONS MEET WARREN COUNTY'S NEEDS AND LOOKING AT THE PRICE POINTS THAT ARE OUT THERE. SO SHOUT OUT TO THEM. THANK YOU. AND THE OTHER QUESTIONS. SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. HAVE A GOOD DAY. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PURCHASE, OR IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR AUTHORIZED THE INTERFUND BUDGET TRANSFER OF $727,328 FROM SPECIAL PROJECTS TO THE GENERAL FUND. I'D FURTHER AUTHORIZED THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF 1 20 23 PIERCE PUMPER PER THE HG AAC CONTRACT PRICING IN THE AMOUNT OF $727,328 ON BEHALF OF WARREN COUNTY. SECOND, MR. MADE SECOND ROLL CALL, MR. SHIRAKI. MR. MABE, MRS. COOK. I MADAM CHAIR. I MRS. OATES, MR. BUTLER. MADAM CHAIR. YES. I WOULD LIKE FOR JUST A MOMENT TO ADDRESS THIS. SO IT'S HIS COMMENTS THERE? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MATT AND ALYSSA I'VE BEEN WORKING ON IS WHEN YOU COME IN TO LOOK AT THE BUDGET, EVERYBODY NEEDS THIS, AND EVERYBODY NEEDS THAT. AND THEN YOU GET THE BUDGET ALL DONE, AND THEN SOMEBODY COMES IN AND THEY NEED THIS, OR THEY NEED THAT AND SO FORTH. AND IT GETS OUT OF CONTEXT A LITTLE BIT. UM, SO NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE STARTED THE TWO-YEAR BUDGET PROCESS AND DEPARTMENTS WILL HAVE THEIR BUDGETS THE 15TH OF FEBRUARY, AND YOU WILL SEE THEM IN MARCH SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY ANTICIPATE FOR YEAR TWO. AND THEN NUMBER TWO AT MELISSA IS W SHE MENTIONED THE IDEA OF THE VML, VACO FINANCE, AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ALL OF OUR VEHICLE NEEDS AND TIE THEM IN WITH WHAT MRS. LOGAN IS DOING ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN TO AN ORDER SO THAT YOU CAN SEE NOT ONLY WHAT YOU NEED IN FACILITIES AND SO FORTH AND LAND ACQUISITION, ET CETERA, IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN. BUT YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO GET TO SEE WHAT YOUR VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT NEEDS ARE PROJECTED TO BE. AND SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE ORDERING SEVERAL OF THESE TRUCKS OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS AND LOOKING AT ONE A YEAR, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE TO PROBABLY ONE EVERY OTHER YEAR, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT FOR US TO GET THERE, BUT YOU'LL SEE THE PROJECTION ON THEM, AND YOU'LL SEE HOW THAT FITS WITH THE AMBULANCES AND ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT DOWN TO VEHICLES THAT WILL BE IN THERE SO THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT THEM AND SEE HOW THEY PROGRESS OUT. HOW FAR OUT ARE YOU GOING TO GO? AND YOUR, UM, GREAT QUESTIONS. SO THE MATRIX THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE'VE ACTUALLY STOLEN FROM HARRISBURG. UM, THEY'VE DONE A REALLY NICE JOB OF LOOKING AT THEIR NEEDS OF CAPITAL AND ALL THAT. WHAT DR. DALEY REFERRED TO OVER ACTUALLY A 20 YEAR CYCLE. AND, AND WHAT WE'LL ACTUALLY DO IS SCALE THOSE TO LOOK AT OUR NEEDS, BOTH ON THE SUPPRESSION SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND THE EMS SIDE OF THE HOUSE, AND USING, UH, BASICALLY GET RED, YELLOW, GREEN, BASICALLY LOOKING AT THE TERMS AND WHAT SAFE USAGE IS AS COMPARED TO STANDARDS. THE STANDARD SPECIFICALLY IS THE NFDA STANDARD 17, 10, 17, 20. AND IT LOOKS AT SEVERAL VARIABLES TO INCLUDE MILEAGE TIME AND OBVIOUSLY YEARS. AND HOW MANY TIMES IT'S BEEN IN SERVICE. UM, ANECDOTALLY I CAN TELL YOU THAT W ARE THE AGE OF OUR, UM, IN LIFE OF OUR, OUR APPARATUSES WAY PAST, UM, THE LARGE, LARGER PERCENTAGE OF IT, NOT ALL OF IT, BUT THE LARGER PERCENTAGE OF HIS WAY PASS [01:25:01] IT'S IN, IN LIFE. SO, UM, WHAT YOU'LL HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU WILL MEASURE NOT ONLY THE, THE, THOSE THREE SPECIFICS, BUT ALSO WE'LL GIVE YOU A PERFORMANCE METRICS TIED TO STANDARDS AND SAFETY STANDARDS AS YOU LOOK SO BUILDING OFF THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THOSE, BUILT-IN WHAT YOU'LL SEE, AS FAR AS THE BUDGET CONCERN IS A FIVE-YEAR PLAN BECAUSE IT'LL MATCH WITH WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN RIGHT NOW, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE A FUTURE YEARS COLUMN WHERE THINGS LIKE THAT CAN BE BROUGHT IN SO THAT YOU HAVE FUTURE YEAR CONCERNS. WHENEVER YOU'RE BUILDING BUDGET OF KNOWING WHAT YOU'LL NEED TO HAVE SIX, SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. SO IT'LL BE BOTH. NOW, IS THIS GOING TO BE JUST FOR FIRE AND RESCUE, OR IS THIS GOING TO BE FOR EVERYBODY? THIS WILL BE FOR EVERYBODY INCLUDING THE SCHOOL. SO THE PUBLIC WORKS EQUIPMENT THAT YOU APPROVED NEXT TIME WE'LL HAVE TO BE IN THE PLAN, OR THEY'LL HAVE TO BE AN EMERGENCY REASON WHY YOU WOULD TAKE IT OUT OF CONTEXT. NOW, WILL THAT ALSO SHOW US, UH, THE DISPOSITION OF VEHICLES THAT ARE TAKEN OUT, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE SOLD AT AUCTION, UM, WHATEVER PLAN, THE PLAN WON'T SHOW IT, PLAN. WE'LL JUST SHOW THAT IT'S COMING OFF. THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING ALSO WITH A POLICY OF HOW WE DISPERSIVE PROPERTY AND HOW WE GET SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS TO WORK TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT MORE AND UNDERSTANDING WHENEVER THE SHERIFF OFFICE MAYBE DOESN'T NEED TO HAVE ONE OF THEIR VEHICLES WITH OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES, BUT MAYBE ANOTHER DEPARTMENT COULD USE IT AFTERWARDS AND MAKING SURE WE'RE GETTING THE LIFESPAN OUT OF THEM, THE WAY THAT WE NEED TO. RIGHT. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, CAUSE AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, DO THEY GO TO A CELL? DO THEY GET DESTROYED, WHATEVER. AND IF THEY DO GO TO A CELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE REVENUE BACK FROM THAT AND SO FORTH. SO IT'D BE JUST A NICE TO, I'VE USED A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE PAST. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A STREAMLINE MORE PROCEDURAL TYPE OF WAY THAT WE DO THAT. GOOD. I LIKE THAT PLAN. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. OKAY. [K. Economic Development Authority Support Agreement Modification – Ed Daley/Jason Ham (Part 1 of 2)] EDA SUPPORT AGREEMENT MODIFICATION, DR. DALY AND MR. HAM. OKAY. SO THIS IS THE POINT. THIS IS THE THING YOU APPROVED ORIGINALLY THAT I WOULD NOT SIGN. SO THIS IS THE NEW RIGHT. AND SO THE SUPPORT AGREEMENT, THE REAL MEAT OF THE SUPPORT AGREEMENT IS TO PROVIDE THE DEBT SERVICE FOR THIS ONE EDA LOAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 21, 22 IN THE AMOUNT OF 200, $14,000. AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALREADY FEBRUARY AND YOU'VE ALREADY DONE A LOT OF THAT. UM, BUT YOU'VE APPROVED THIS SUPPORT AGREEMENT AND YOU'VE BEEN PAYING THIS. THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE WHOLE TIME I'VE BEEN HERE IS, IS THE COUNTY GETTING REIMBURSED FOR ITS LEGAL EXPENSES THAT IT'S PUT OUT ON BEHALF OF THE EDA. AND SO, UM, WE HAD TALKED A LOT WITH SANDRA ANDERSON IN CLOSED SESSION, AND I TALKED A LOT OFFLINE WITH SANS ANDERSON ABOUT, UM, SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT THAT WOULD ACHIEVE THAT. AND SO THERE IS, YOU KNOW, AS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE EDA IS REFINANCING ITS LOANS AND, YOU KNOW, GET RID OF ONE BANK, IT'LL BE ONE, ONE BANK NOW, INSTEAD OF TWO. AND AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS. AND ONE OF THE, WHICH IS THIS LOAN AGREEMENT AND IN THE LOAN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE EDA AND THE BANK, IT PROVIDES A UNFORTUNATELY COMPLICATED, BUT GENERALLY REALLY GOOD FOR WARREN COUNTY, A WAY TO, TO SPLIT PROCEEDS SO THAT AS MONIES ARE RECOVERED, BECAUSE IT APPEARS NOW THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE STUFF HAS BEEN RECOVERED AND MORE WILL BE RECOVERED, UM, THAT THE COUNTY CAN BE SURE TO GET BACK OR SURE AS IT CAN BE TO GET PAID BACK FOR THE LEGAL EXPENSES THAT IT'S PAID ON BEHALF OF THE EDA. AND SO LOTS OF GOOD STUFF IN THE, IN THE AGREEMENT THAT DEALS WITH THAT, BUT THERE'S NO PRIVITY OF CONTRACT BECAUSE THE LOAN AGREEMENT IS ONLY BETWEEN THE EDA AND THE BANK AND THE COUNTY IS NOT A PARTY TO THAT. SO I HAD THE IDEA OF ADDING IT TO, OR IT MIGHT'VE BEEN DAN SIEGEL'S IDEA, OR IT WAS MY IDEA THAT WE NEEDED SOME PRIVATIVE CONTRACT. AND THE WAY WE'VE COME UP TO DO THAT IS TO BASICALLY IN THE SUPPORT AGREEMENT, WHICH HADN'T YET BEEN SIGNED TO MODIFY THAT, TO PROVIDE THAT THIS ONE PORTION OF THE LOAN AGREEMENT IS INCORPORATED BY REFERENCE INTO IT. AND SO BASICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS THIS ONE SECTION 8.16 IS ESSENTIALLY REWRITTEN INTO THIS SUPPORT AGREEMENT. AND SO WHAT THAT GIVES THE COUNTY IS AN AGREEMENT, A SIGNED CONTRACT EDA HADN'T APPROVED IT YET. THE BANK HAS TOLD US VERBALLY THAT THEY WILL SIGN THIS BETWEEN THE BANK AND THE COUNTY AND THE EDA THAT BASICALLY PROVIDES THAT THE COUNTY GETS PAID BACK, UM, ACCORDING TO THIS SCHEDULE, UM, AND [01:30:03] THAT IS, WILL BE THE FIRST TIME THE COUNTIES HAD A WRITTEN AGREEMENT TO GET PAID BACK TO WHICH THE BANK HAS CONSENTED. CAUSE OF COURSE, EDA THAT L IT WAS A WHOLE TON OF MONEY TO THE BANK. AND IF THE EDA WERE TO GIVE MONEY BACK TO THE COUNTY, WITHOUT THE PERMISSION OF THE BANK IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE, THAT MIGHT, MIGHT BE AN ISSUE. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. UM, AND YOU KNOW, SO THE, THE REAL COMPLICATED, UH, LOAN AGREEMENT IS ATTACHED AS AN EXHIBIT TO THE SUPPORT AGREEMENT, BUT THE ONLY PORTION OF IT, THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF IT IS THIS 8.16. AND I TALKED ABOUT IN THE AGENDA SUMMARY, UH, AND YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE SAUSAGE MAKING OF WHO GETS WHAT, BUT BASICALLY IT'S UP TO TWO AND A HALF MILLION, UH, FOR RECOVERIES. THAT JUST GOES AT THAT FIRST GOES TO THE COUNTY AFTER THAT 50 50 SPLIT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE LENDER AND THE LENDERS PORTION IS TO BE USED TO REDUCE THE DEBT, BUT THERE ARE CARVE-OUTS HERE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE STUFF AGAINST TLC SETTLEMENTS AND THE STUFF RELATED TO THE TOWN THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S RECOVERIES FROM THOSE, AND HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE, THE BANK HAS AGREED THAT WE JUST CAN GET THAT MONEY TO GET PAID BACK FOR THE LARGE AMOUNT OF LEGAL EXPENSES THAT WE'VE INCURRED WITH SANDRA ANDERSON ON THAT. SO I UNDERSTAND IT'S A LITTLE COMPLICATED, BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT CONCEPT TO HAVE PRIVITY OF CONTRACT, TO HAVE AN ACTUAL ENFORCEABLE CONTRACT THAT THE COUNTY IS A PARTY TO IT TO GET US PAID BACK. UH, AND SO THE BANK CAN'T OBJECT WHEN WE ARE PAID BACK, I HAVE WHEW, CAUSE THIS IS A BIG ONION TO PEEL. LET ME JUST SAY EVERY LAYER IS SO COMPLICATED IN THIS PROCESS. SO BASICALLY WHAT THIS DOCUMENT DOES IS IT JUST GIVES US A LEGAL VEHICLE TO BE REIMBURSED BECAUSE THE, IF WE WERE TO RECOVER MONEY, THEN THE BANK COULD SAY, ALL OF THAT HAS TO COME TO US. IS THAT THAT'S BASICALLY IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, WHAT YOUR, YOU HAVE TO SPEAK REAL SIMPLY FOR US IN LAYMAN'S TERMS. GOT IT. OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD DEAL THEN. YES. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. IT'S A GOOD DEAL FROM THE COUNTY'S PERSPECTIVE, THE OTHER PARTS TO IT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OR, OR, YOU KNOW, I WON'T, I WON'T CALL IT THAT WELL, IT'S A BETTER DEAL THAN IT WAS. IT'S A BETTER DEAL THAN IT WAS. YES. GUARANTEES US THAT 3.8, MAN THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN PREVIOUS SESSIONS WITH MR. KIM. SO THE AGREEMENT HERE, ARE WE GOING? UM, ONCE THE PROCEEDS START COMING IN, IS THAT WHEN WE START THE 50 50 SPLIT OR DO WE, OR THE FIRST 2.5 MILLION COMES TO US, AND THEN AFTER WE REACHED THAT CEILING, THEN IT GOES TO A 50 50 SPLIT. YEAH. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER HERE, MR. ROBERTSON, BUT WE HAVE RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY 1.4 MILLION. WE HAVE CASH OVER WITH MRS. SPEICHER IT'S IN THE COUNTY ACCOUNTS AND IT'S GOING TO STAY THERE. WE'RE NOT GIVING IT BACK TO ANYBODY. THEN THE 2 MILLION, 2.5 MILLION HERE IS WHEN THE EDA STARTS SELLING THEIR PROPERTIES. AND WHEN THEY SELL THE PROPERTIES, THE EXAMPLE LANE, WE ALL ARE KNOWN BELOW BOB DRIVE. WHEN THE WAREHOUSE GETS SOLD, WHICH THE COUNTY BOUGHT FOR INVESTMENT, WHEN IT GETS SOLD, THAT MONEY GOES TO THE COUNTY UP TO 2.5 AND THEN AFTER 2.5, IT WILL BE $1 TO THE BANK AND $1 TO THE COUNTY. OKAY. UH, AND THEN THE DEAL WITH OUR LARGEST, OUR SECOND LARGEST GOING TO EXCLUDE MR. TRAN, BUT OUR SECOND, SECOND LARGEST, UH, OH, THEY ARE OUR DATA OR IS THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL. AND WHEN THEY START PAYING THEIR BILLS, THEN THAT'S GOING TO COME OFF ALSO. AND IT'LL GO TO THE COUNTY BECAUSE THAT WAS, THAT'S ALL INTEREST AND SO FORTH THAT THE COUNTY PAID. THERE'S NONE OF THAT, THAT THE BANK HAS ANY CLAIM ON. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION, MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUTHORIZED A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE SUPPORT AGREEMENT HAS PRESENTED. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND? CAN I, CAN I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION? I'M SORRY. I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING ELSE. SO, SO BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GIVING IT TO THE BANK, THEN WE ARE ACTUALLY, THE DEBT IS GOING TO BE LONGER, RIGHT. OR WE'RE NOT PAYING DOWN THE DEBT AS QUICKLY AS WE WOULD. SO ARE WE NOT JUST PUTTING CHICKENS [01:35:01] IN ONE BASKET AND TAKING THEM FROM ANOTHER, BECAUSE NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO CLOSED SESSIONS. OKAY. WELL, AND SO MAYBE WE NEED TO, CAN WE TAKE THIS TO CLOSED SESSION? BECAUSE YEAH, SO, SO WE, IT WOULD BE LIKE ME SAYING, I'M GOING TO GET ALL THIS MONEY, BUT I'VE GOT THIS DEAD OUT HERE AND IT'S FOR 30 OR 40 YEARS. AND THEN IT'S, IT'S A LONGER TIMEFRAME THAT, THAT I'M STILL GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THAT PRINCIPAL OFF. AND SO AM I NOT CUTTING OFF MY NOSE TO SPITE MY FACE? LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT IN CLOSED SESSION. AND SO PERHAPS WHILE YOU'D BE AGREEABLE, JUST TO HOLD OFF ON THIS UNTIL AFTER WE'VE HAD OUR CLOSED SESSION, MY SECOND I'LL WITHDRAW. OKAY. SO WE [L. Closed Session – Virginia Freedom of Information Act 1. Section 2.2-3711(A)(3) Acquisition of Real Property for a Public Purpose, Property Located in the Fork Magisterial District Outside the Limits of the Town of Front Royal 2. Section 2.2-3711(A)(3) Disposition of Publicly Held Real Property Located in the South River Magisterial District Within the Limits of the Town of Front Royal 3. Sections 2.2-3711(A)(7) and (A)(8) Consultation with Legal Counsel Pertaining to Actual or Probable Litigation and for the Provision of Legal Advice Relating to Economic Development Authority Matters] WILL HOLD ITEM K TO GO INTO THE CLOSED SESSION POINT. AND WE DON'T NEED TO ADJUST THAT BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THAT IN OUR CLOSED SESSION. YES. I WOULD SAY IT ALREADY SAYS THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE LOAN ISSUES. AND SO MRS. OATES, IF YOU WILL READ US INTO CLOSE SESSION, I WILL POINT OUT MA'AM. BUT IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, COUNTY OF WARREN HAS SPENT SIX FIRE TRUCKS ON THE EDA LOANS AND LEGAL SERVICES. THAT'S ONE WAY OF PUTTING IT IN IT. OH. AND I TOTALLY RESPECT THAT, BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR SIX MORE FOR THE SIX MORE. OKAY. YEAH. SO I WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR MAYBE IN A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME THAT DOESN'T COST THE COUNTY MORE MONEY IN THE LONGTERM THAN IT WOULD IN THE SHORT TERM. SO OUR SESSION KEEP YOU ON TRACK. I'M SORRY. BUT YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. UM, I MOVED THE BOARD ENTERED INTO A CLOSE MEETING UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION TWO DOT TWO DASH 3 7 1 180 3 OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT FOR THE DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ACQUISITION OF RURAL PROPERTY FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE, SUCH PROPERTY BEING LOCATED IN THE FORK MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT, OUTSIDE THE TOWN LIMITS OF THE OUTSIDE, THE LIMITS OF THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL, WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY. I ALSO MOVE THE BOARD, ENTER INTO A CLOSE MEETING UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION TWO DOT TWO DASH 3 7 1 1 8 3 FOR THE DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE DISPOSITION OF PUBLICLY HELD PROP REAL PROPERTY, SUCH PROPERTY BEING LOCATED IN THE SOUTH RIVER MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL, WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY. FINALLY, I MOVED THE BOARD IN ORDER TO A CLOSE MEETING UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION TWO DOT TWO DASH 3 7 1 1 8, 7 AND EIGHT OF THE FREED, UH, VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT FOR CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL PERTAINING TO ACTUAL OR PROBABLE PROBABLE LITIGATION AND THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF THE TOWN OF FRONT RAIL AND THE COUNTY OF WARREN, VIRGINIA, THE EDA, THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL, THE EDA VERSUS JENNIFER MACDONALD AT ALL THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL VERSUS THE EDA AT ALL THE EDA VERSUS THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL OTHER POTENTIAL CLAIMS. AND LITIGATION'S RELATING TO OTHER POSSIBLE LIABILITIES OF THE EDA, THE RECOVERY OF EDA FUNDS AND ASSETS, AND THE OUTSTANDING INDEBTEDNESS OF THE EDA AND FOYA MATTERS. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MR. BUTLER, MRS. OATES, MADAM CHAIR, MRS. COOK, MR. MABE. OKAY. OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER SECTIONS TWO DOT TWO DASH 3 7 1 1 8 3 8, 7 AND EIGHT, EIGHT OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVENED WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING BY THE PUBLIC BODY. OKAY. ROLL CALL MRS. SHIRAKI. AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. MR. BUTLER. OKAY. WE, [K. Economic Development Authority Support Agreement Modification – Ed Daley/Jason Ham (Part 2 of 2)] WE ARE GOING TO CIRCLE BACK TO ITEM K, THE EDA SUPPORT AGREEMENT MODIFICATION TO ALLOW FOR COUNTY REIMBURSEMENT OF LEGAL FEES AND COST. MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUTHORIZED THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE SUPPORT AGREEMENT AS PRESENTED. IS THERE A SECOND CIRCUIT ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MR. BUTLER, MRS. OATS. MADAM CHAIR. I MRS. COOK. I MR. MABE. OKAY. IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS HEARING? NONE. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT? SECOND, SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. SAY AYE. BYE. WE ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.