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OKAY,

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GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

[A. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America]

I HAVE 9 0 1 AND THIS TIME I CALL THE JUNE 7TH, 2022 BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING TO ORDER.

WE'LL START WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE, PLEASE.

AND IF EVERYONE WILL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, ADOPTION OF THE

[B. Adoption of Agenda – Additions or Deletions]

AGENDA, ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE ITEM L UNTIL WE CAN HAVE A WORK SESSION ON JUNE 14TH AT 6:00 PM.

ANY OTHER ADDITIONS, AND WE NEED TO REMOVE, UM, THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON SHANANDOAH ASSURES WATER.

THEY HAVE DECIDED TO CANCEL THAT.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? OKAY.

MADAM CHAIR, I BELIEVE, UM, THE CLOSED SESSION ITEM A NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, UM, TO ADD AND THE WARREN COUNTY BUILDING OFFICIAL.

ANYTHING ELSE? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA AS AMENDED SOME OF MADAM CHAIR? SECOND SECOND.

ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI.

MR. MABE, MRS. COOK.

I MADAM CHAIR.

I MRS. OATES.

HI, MR. BUTLER.

OKAY.

PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD

[C. Public Comment Period (60 Minute Time Limit)]

IS A 60 MINUTE TIME PERIOD FOR, UH, INDIVIDUALS TO SPEAK ON.

SOMETHING IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.

THREE MINUTES PER PERSON, ALL COMMENTS WILL BE DIRECTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, NOT TO THE AUDIENCE.

BE CONSIDERATE OF YOUR FELLOW SPEAKERS.

THERE SHOULD BE NO APPLAUSE, BOOING OR OTHER AUDIBLE DISRUPTION TO THE PROCEEDINGS THROUGH A SHOW OF HANDS.

THE CHAIRMAN THEY ASKED FOR A SHOW OF SUPPORT FOR COMMENTS MADE BY SPEAKERS, PLACARDS POSTERS, AND OTHER MEANS OF VISUAL DISPLAY OF COMMENTS WILL NOT BE PERMITTED IN THE BOARD MEETING ROOM.

THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE INFORMATION OR MATERIALS YOU USE AS PART OF A FACTUAL PRESENTATION.

THE BOARD WILL NOT TOLERATE PERSONAL ATTACKS BY ANYONE OR ANY OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROCEEDINGS.

DID WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO.

MA'AM.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? SECOND CALL ANYONE LIKED TO THIRD AND FINAL CALL.

WE WILL MOVE ON THEN A

[D. Report – Virginia Department of Transportation – Ed Carter]

REPORT OF VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A SINKHOLE ON 81.

SO MR. CARTER COULDN'T MAKE IT, UM, HOPE HE'S NOT IN THE SINKHOLE.

UM, LET'S SEE.

HIS REPORT, UH, SAYS HE PERFORMED GRADING OPERATIONS ON VARIOUS STABILIZED ROADS AND WE'LL CONTINUE THIS MONTH AND APPLIED DUST CONTROL AS NEEDED MOWED PRIMARY ROUTES AND WILL BE MOE AND SECONDARY ROUTES.

THIS MONTH CONDUCTED SKIN PATCHING OPERATIONS ON VARIOUS ROUTES AND ASPHALT PATCHING ON OREGON HOLLOW ROAD, HOUSE VILLE ROAD, AND USED A CONTRACTOR TO PATCH ON THREE 40 AND 55 EAST.

AND WE'LL BE USING CONTRACTOR FOR ADDITIONAL ASPHALT PATCHING THIS MONTH.

CUT BRUSH ALONG 55, EACH REPAIRED SOFT SPOTS ON ROUTE THREE 40 SOUTH INSTALLED PIPES ON VARIOUS ROADS.

AND WE'LL BE CONDUCTING DITCHING AND OPERATIONS ON VARIOUS ROUTES THIS MONTH.

SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING, UM, YOU CAN CONTACT HIM THROUGH EMAIL.

AND, UM, IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS BEFORE HE'S HERE NEXT MONTH, AND NEXT WILL BE REPORT

[E. Report – Virginia Cooperative Extension Office – Karen Poff]

OF THE VIRGINIA COOPERATION EXTENSION OFFICE.

MS. POFF.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN OF THE MORNING.

I'M HAPPY TO BE WITH YOU TODAY.

WE TRY TO GET EACH OF US IN FRONT OF ME AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR.

SO YOU GET A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF ALL OF US.

I'M THE FAMILY AND CONSUMER SCIENCES EXTENSION AGENT.

UM, AND, UH, MY PROGRAMMING RESPONSIBILITY IS IN MONEY MANAGEMENT OF FAMILY ECONOMICS, ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH FAMILY ECONOMICS.

SO, UM, TO START OUT WITH, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT WE HAVE FILLED THE UNIT ADMINISTRATIVE

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ASSISTANT POSITION AND OUR NEW PERSON WILL START ON FRIDAY.

HER NAME IS OCTAVIA WALKER, AND WE'RE REAL PLEASED.

SHE'S COMING TO US WITH 20 YEARS OF EXTENSION EXPERIENCE.

SO SHE WON'T NEED ANY TRAINING.

SHE JUST NEEDS ORIENTATION TO THIS OFFICE, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED THAT, UM, SHE'S GOING TO BE WITH US.

SO STOP BY AND MEET HER ANYTIME AFTER FRIDAY.

AND, UM, ALSO AS A REMINDER, THIS REPORT IS FROM JANUARY TO MARCH.

SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE IN JUNE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SEASON OF THE YEAR WHERE THERE'S TYPICALLY LESS PROGRAMMING GOING ON, SO, AND WE STILL HAVE TONS.

UM, SO I JUST, JUST TO NOTE THAT I JUST PULLED OUT A FEW THINGS BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S NO WAY TO REPORT IT ALL IN THIS SORT AMOUNT OF TIME, UH, TO START WITH THE AGRICULTURE PROGRAMMING, UM, COREY AND THE OTHER AGRICULTURE AGENTS WE HAVE.

AND, UM, I KNOW YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE, THE STRUCTURE, BUT, UM, JUST TO REMIND YOU, WE HAVE A MARK SUTPHIN IN FREDERICK COUNTY SERVES WARREN COUNTY AND FOCUSES ON, UM, COMMERCIAL HORTICULTURE AND OVERSEEING THE MASTER GARDENERS.

UM, THEN WE HAVE CORY THAT DOES LIVESTOCK HERE.

WE HAVE BOBBY CLARK THAT DOES CROPS AND SOIL SCIENCES HERE.

AND, UM, ELIZABETH MULLINS AND PAIGE COUNTY ALSO DOES LIVESTOCK.

SO WE HAVE FOUR AGRICULTURE AGENTS SERVING WARREN COUNTY, AND SOME OF THE MAJOR PROGRAMS WERE COMMERCIAL PESTICIDE RECERTIFICATION AND INQUISITIVE SHEPHERD, SHEEP, AND GOAT CLASS.

THAT WAS A NEW PROGRAM.

AND IT WAS, UM, JUST PHENOMENAL.

THEY, THEY DID THAT VIRTUALLY AND HAD 438 PARTICIPANTS FROM 35 STATES.

SO IT WENT OUT, IT WAS A MULTIPLE SESSION, UM, SERIES.

SO THAT WAS, UM, REALLY EXCITING TO HAVE THAT LARGE, A RESPONSE FROM SUCH A WIDE AREA.

UH, THEY HAD A ONE DAY AGRITOURISM AGRITOURISM EVENT AND SOLAR AND AGRICULTURE TRAINING SESSIONS AMONG LOTS OF OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE REPORT.

STACY WAS REAL BUSY WITH FOUR H PROGRAM.

SHE HAD A STOCK SKYLINE STOCKMEN'S CONTEST, 180 S 168 YOUTH PARTICIPATED IN THAT.

SO AGAIN, YOUTH FROM ALL OVER COME TO WARREN COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS STOCKMEN'S CONTEST.

AND IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY A SKILLED EVENT WHERE THEY DEMONSTRATE THEIR ABILITY TO SHOW ANIMALS, TO JUDGE AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

AND, UM, IT'S A COMPETITION.

UH, THEY ALSO HAD FOUR H CAPITAL DAY WHERE YOUTH WENT TO THE STATE CAPITOL AND MET WITH LEGISLATORS AND LEARNED ABOUT THE, UM, THE GOVERNMENT GOVERNANCE PROCESS FOR H CONTESTS, WHERE YOU COME AND DO PRESENTATIONS AND DEMONSTRATIONS AND LEARN THEIR PUBLIC SPEAKING SKILLS AND DEMONSTRATE THEIR PROFICIENCY AND LEADERSHIP IN FRONT OF A GROUP.

AND THEN OF COURSE, LOTS OF PLANNING FOR PROGRAMS COMING UP LIKE FOUR H CAMP THIS YEAR, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, UH, A FULL CAMP SINCE THE COVID RESTRICTIONS HAVE BEEN LIFTED.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO FILL ALL OF THE SLOTS THAT WE NORMALLY FILL.

AND I DON'T, UM, IT'S NOT COMPLETELY FILLED YET, BUT IF ANYBODY WANTS TO GET IN THERE, GET THEIR CHILD INTO FOUR H CAMP, DO IT QUICKLY BECAUSE THE SLOTS ARE GOING FAST.

AND THEN FOR MY PROGRAMMING, I'M VERY EXCITED TO, TO HAVE IN-PERSON PROGRAMMING.

ONCE AGAIN, WE DID A LOT OF THINGS VIRTUALLY DURING THE PANDEMIC, BUT IT DIDN'T SEEM WITH FINANCIAL EDUCATION THAT PEOPLE WERE AS RECEPTIVE OR ENGAGED ONLINE.

AND SO, UM, NOW THAT WE'RE GETTING BACK TO IN-PERSON PROGRAMMING, IT REALLY ENERGIZES ME BECAUSE I CAN SEE THEM, UH, MAKING CHANGES.

I COME BACK TO CLASS IN THE NEXT WEEK AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE THINGS.

A FELLOW YESTERDAY TOLD ME HE WAS SAVING A HUNDRED DOLLARS FROM EVERY PAYCHECK, UM, WHICH IS AMAZING TO ME IT'S ONCE A MONTH, BUT STILL THAT'S THAT'S FOR SOMEONE WHO MIGHT'VE BEEN STRUGGLING BEFORE THE CLASS STARTED.

SO, UM, SO THAT'S REALLY EXCITING.

WE HAVE ACTUALLY FOUR DIFFERENT SERIES GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

ONE OF THOSE IS IN WARREN COUNTY AND THAT'S A SIX LESSON, UH, CLASS THAT INCLUDES PERSONAL FINANCE INFORMATION, CREDIT, UH, BUDGETING, BANKING, INSURANCE, RECORD KEEPING, AND GETTING OUT OF DEBT ALL IN THAT SIX LESSON SERIES.

THEN WE ALSO HAVE A COPING WITH A MONEY CRUNCH, UM, PROGRAM.

IT WAS A WEBINAR DURING THE PANDEMIC, AND Y'ALL REMEMBER I DID MANY OF THOSE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, WHO WERE IN THAT MONEY CRUNCH TO LEARN HOW TO NAVIGATE THROUGH IT EFFECTIVELY AND SINCE THE PANDEMIC, UM, AND PARTICULARLY BECAUSE A LOT OF THE SUPPORTS HAVE, HAVE GONE AWAY, BUT IN ADDITION MORE ARE GOING TO BE GOING AWAY THE, THE ADDITIONAL FOOD STAMP FUNDING, UH, FOR PEOPLE THE, UM, EXTRA TAN OF THERE'S, THERE'S A VARIETY

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OF DIFFERENT SUPPORTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE, UM, REMOVED IN JULY AND AUGUST.

SO WE'VE STARTED A PARTNERSHIP WITH DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES TO OFFER THAT COPING WITH THE MONEY CRUNCH, UH, QUARTERLY IN WARREN COUNTY AND WARREN COUNTY STARTED IT.

THEY CONTACTED ME AND SAID, WE NEED SOMETHING TO HELP THESE PEOPLE GET OVER THE HUMP OF NOT HAVING THESE SUPPORTS ANYMORE.

SO WE STARTED THAT IN MARCH AND WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE THIS WEDNESDAY, AND THEN I'VE CONTACTED THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS OF SOCIAL SERVICES TO SEE IF WE CAN GET IT GOING IN THE OTHER COUNTIES.

AND MY GOAL WOULD BE TO HAVE ONE EVERY MONTH ROTATING THROUGHOUT THE PLANNING DISTRICT SO THAT NOBODY CAN SAY, WELL, I COULDN'T GO ON TUESDAY OR WHATEVER.

WELL, YOU, YOU GOT 12 OPPORTUNITIES TO ATTEND.

AND, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A BETTER OPPORTUNITY THAN THEY, THEY BELIEVE.

I MEAN, THEY FEEL LIKE IF THEY'RE BEING REQUIRED TO GO BY SOMEBODY THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A GOOD EXPERIENCE, BUT THE SESSION THAT WE HAD IN MARCH WAS GREAT.

AND SEVERAL OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE RESISTANT TO COMING IN THE END SAID, OH, THERE IS SOMETHING I CAN DO.

YEAH, I CAN.

ONE FELLOW SAID, YES, I CAN CONTACT THE IRS AND CREATE A PAYMENT PLAN FOR THE AMOUNT THAT I OWE THEM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, HE, HE FELT LIKE WHEN HE WAS COMING TO THE CLASS, THAT I WASN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO TELL HIM ANYTHING, BUT ONCE YOU KINDA GET THEM TO OPEN UP, THEY REALLY UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE THINGS THEY NEED TO DO TO TRY TO, UM, IMPROVE THEIR FINANCIAL SITUATION.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO REPORT TODAY.

DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UM, PRIMARILY MY PROGRAMMING? I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS, BUT I CAN TRY TO ANSWER THE OTHERS IF NEEDED.

I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, IT'S ON MRS. PAUL, UM, ARE YOU SEEING ANY INCREASE IN CLASSES OR CALLS OR QUESTIONS DUE TO THE PANDEMIC PANDEMIC AND IS IT GETTING BETTER OR WORSE AS, AS YOU CAN SEE IT, IT'S GETTING BETTER IN, IN TERMS OF PEOPLE BEING RECEPTIVE TO LEARNING AND IMPROVING THEIR FINANCIAL SITUATIONS.

IT WAS ACTUALLY, IT'S KIND OF COUNTERINTUITIVE.

YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD HAVE HAD A LOT OF, A LOT OF PEOPLE ASKING DURING THE PANDEMIC, BUT I THINK WHAT HAPPENED, THEY HAD SO MUCH FINANCIAL SUPPORT FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT SOURCES THAT DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THEY HAD TO WORK ON IT.

DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE NEED GETTING BIGGER THAN I DO BELIEVE SO, ESPECIALLY AFTER JULY AND AUGUST, I THINK IN, IN THE FALL, WE WILL REALLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN AVALANCHE OF PEOPLE.

I'M ALSO FINDING MORE SUCCESS WITH BUSINESSES.

I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE IN COUNTY RIGHT NOW, BUT WHEN THE BUSINESSES CAN OFFER A CLASS AT THE FACILITY, LIKE BEFORE A SHIFT OR AFTER A SHIFT THAT REALLY HELPS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY THERE.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO HOME AND EAT DINNER AND COME BACK OUT TO A CLASS.

AND, UM, IT'S ALSO A LITTLE LESS, UH, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE, UM, THEY'RE COMING TO A CLASS FULL OF STRANGERS.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, IF A BUNCH OF PEOPLE AT THE BUSINESS ARE TAKING IT, THERE'S SOME COMRADERY AND PEOPLE DON'T FEEL LIKE, WELL, I'M TAKING THIS CAUSE I'M BAD OR I'M NOT DOING WELL, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S DOING IT.

AND SO, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THAT IF WE COULD OFFER THAT, BECAUSE IT IS DIFFICULT FOR FAMILIES WHO ARE WORKING AND STRUGGLING TO THEN COME BACK OUT TO A CLASS IN THE EVENING.

WELL, THIS, IN MY MIND, THIS IS A TRULY AN EDUCATIONAL PROCESS TO WHERE YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE PEOPLE AWARE THAT YOU'VE GOT THE SERVICE.

AND I KNOW THAT I TRY TO DO THAT.

AND I KNOW THAT MY, UM, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEMBERS, THEY ACTUALLY DO THAT AS WELL, BUT THE WORD NEEDS TO GET OUT THERE THAT YOU'RE HERE TO HELP.

AND I KNOW ME PERSONALLY, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN YOUR ORGANIZATION DO.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT.

AND WE DO TRY TO GET THE WORD OUT THE BEST WE CAN.

UM, I THINK SOMETIMES THE BEST, THE BEST, UH, REFERENCE IS SOMEONE WHO'S TAKEN THE CLASS TO LINK SOMEONE ELSE.

SO THAT'S, AND THAT'S, IT'S GETTING THERE.

SO I I'M REALLY OPTIMISTIC.

AND LIKE I SAID, VERY ENERGIZED BY HAVING SO MANY PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.

UM, RECENTLY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU TO GO THE, THE PROGRAM WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES IS, IS THAT A VOLUNTARY THING OR DOES THE DEPARTMENT KIND OF STRESS THE NEED FOR THEM TO TAKE IT? UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT FOR, FOR MANY OF THE PROGRAMS, BECAUSE IT'S FEDERAL FUNDING, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REQUIRE THE PARTICIPANT TO DO SOMETHING, BUT THEY HAVE A DISCRETIONARY FUND WHERE THEY CAN REQUIRE THE PEOPLE.

IT'S AN, AN EMERGENCY FUND THAT'S FUNDED DIFFERENTLY.

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SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE THE CLASS IN ORDER TO GET HELP AGAIN, LIKE THEY GET THEIR HELP, BUT THEN THEY CAN'T ASK AGAIN UNTIL THEY'VE TAKEN THIS CLASS.

SO THE PARTICIPATION FOR THAT HAS BEEN FAIRLY GOOD.

WELL, WE'VE ONLY DONE ONE AND WE HAD FIVE PARTICIPANTS THAT TIME.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE'LL HAVE TOMORROW.

THEY HAVEN'T LET ME KNOW HOW MANY WE'LL HAVE TOMORROW, BUT THAT ONE IS IN THE, WAS IN THE EVENING.

THIS ONE IS IN THE DAYTIME AND EXPECT THE DAYTIME TO BE BETTER ATTENDED, UH, BECAUSE KIDS ARE IN SCHOOL AND PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CHILDCARE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANKS.

UH, WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, DR.

BALLENGER.

[F. Report – Warren County Public Schools – Dr. Chris Ballenger (Part 1 of 2)]

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING, SIR.

FINALLY GETTING SOME NICE WEATHER AROUND HERE, RIGHT.

UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THINGS ARE GOING TO EQUALIZE THAT A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, THOSE HOT DAYS, THOSE WERE KINDA, WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE WARM, BUT, UM, ANYWAY, SO AS FAR AS THE SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW, UH, THE SCHOOL YEAR HAS CONCLUDED IT FINISHED LAST THURSDAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD OUR GRADUATIONS THE SATURDAY BEFORE.

AND, UH, SO JUST WITH ALL OF OUR END OF YEAR EVENTS, OUR FIELD EVENTS AND VARIOUS THINGS THAT WE HAD AT THE SCHOOL, UM, AT EACH OF OUR SCHOOL SITES.

UH, SO, SO WE DID, WE HAVE CONCLUDED SCHOOL THIS YEAR.

UM, SOME OF OUR INITIAL SOL TESTING AND, AND READING AND MATH IS LOOKING REALLY GOOD FOR US THIS YEAR.

UM, THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT, THAT WE HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT.

WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE AND SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT AND WHAT WE HAVE, BUT, BUT READING MATH OVERALL ARE LOOKING PRETTY GOOD.

UM, DIVISION-WIDE, UH, THIS YEAR WITH LEAPS AND BOUNDS FROM WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR, UM, ALSO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE HAVE SUMMER SCHOOL, THAT'LL BE STARTING JUNE 13TH.

UH, SO WE WILL STILL BE RUNNING SOME BUSES AND SOME THINGS FOR OUR STUDENTS THAT, THAT WE'LL HAVE SUMMER SCHOOL.

UM, ALSO SOME THINGS THAT ARE COMING OUT, OF COURSE, YOU GUYS KNOW BUDGETS ARE, ARE STILL ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT LOOMS OVER ALL OF US AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE DID RECEIVE SOME INITIAL GUIDANCE, BUT WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY HARD COPY TEMPLATES, WHICH WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR OUR CALC TEMPLATES BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING.

UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT.

IT DOES LOOK LIKE THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR, FOR THE SCHOOLS AND, AND SOME OF THAT IN CONSTRUCTION.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO SEE, UH, KIND OF WHERE ALL THAT PLAYS OUT WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT ALL IS ACTUALLY THE CONSTRUCTION AMOUNT VERSUS WHAT ALL IS SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT THE THEY'VE PUT IN DURING THIS, UH, SPECIAL SESSION.

SO KIND OF HAVE A ROUGH OUTLINE OF EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW, BUT THE, THE LOOMING PART OR THE PIECE IS WHAT, OR HOW MUCH DID THEY PUT IN FOR CONSTRUCTION? UM, ONE THING I WANTED TO KIND OF SPEND TIME ON TODAY WAS JUST TALK ABOUT SCHOOL SAFETY AND SECURITY A LITTLE BIT, JUST TO KIND OF LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE UNFORTUNATE EVENT AT ROD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, I KNOW THAT'S ON EVERYBODY'S MIND.

UM, OUR CHILDREN ARE OUR MOST IMPRESSIVE, PRECIOUS COMMODITY WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR SAFETY, THEIR SECURITY, THEIR EDUCATION.

AND OF COURSE, THAT IS ALWAYS IN THE FOREFRONT OF OUR MINDS ON A DAILY BASIS AT ALL OF OUR SCHOOL SITES.

UM, YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH WARREN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

UM, I VISIT WITH, UM, SHERIFF BUTLER, MAJOR DRISCOLL, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES ON A WEEKLY BASIS, BUT TYPICALLY I WILL SAY IT WON'T GO, I WON'T GO TWO WEEKS WITHOUT HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH EITHER ONE OF THOSE GUYS.

UM, ALSO I'M IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH SERGEANT BURKE.

SHE'S THE, UM, SRO LEAD THERE, SERGEANT OVER ALL THE SROS.

AND SO HER AND I COMMUNICATE ON A DAILY BASIS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE SCHOOLS AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WHEN IT COMES TO SU SCHOOL SECURITY, BUT EACH YEAR, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO, WE HAVE A CRISIS MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT IS REVIEWED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

AND WE DO HAVE ENTITIES THAT COME IN TO HELP US AND, AND OUR NEXT SCHEDULED A MEETING FOR OUR CRISIS MANAGEMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN UPDATE IS JULY 20TH, 2010, 2022, GOING INTO NEXT YEAR.

AND SO SOME, SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THAT OF COURSE, ARE WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THE WARREN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE FRONT RURAL POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE AND RESCUE.

AND THEN WE HAVE JUST OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT'S THAT, THAT COME IN.

UM, I KNOW WE'VE HAD DHS COME IN BEFORE AND JUST VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP US IN CREATING THIS CRISIS MANAGEMENT PLAN AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD PROCESS IN PLACE.

UM, EACH SCHOOL DOES HAVE A THREAT ASSESSMENT TEAM THAT'S MADE UP OF TEACHERS AND THEY MEET ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO

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TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE SCHOOLS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, UM, GIVE US IDEAS THAT MAYBE WE'RE MISSING FROM, FROM THE THREAT, FROM THE CRISIS MANAGEMENT TEAM SIDE, TO LOOKING AT IT FROM A TEACHER'S PERSPECTIVE.

UM, ALSO WE HAVE ANNUAL SAFETY AUDITS AND, AND THERE ALL THE TIME, SO THAT SRO IS GOING AROUND AND SERGEANT BURKE IS GOING AROUND ON A, ON A WEEKLY, DAILY, MONTHLY, HOW ALL THE TIME THEY'RE JUST GOING AROUND CHECKING THINGS AND GIVING US A CALL.

SO FOR INSTANCE, AFTER THE SHOOTING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SERGEANT, UM, AFTER THE INCIDENT AT ROBB ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, UM, SERGEANT BURKE WAS GOING AROUND TO OUR SCHOOLS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS SHE CALLED ME ABOUT WAS, WELL, WHEN WARREN COUNTY MIDDLE SCHOOL WAS BUILT, THEY ALLOW ENTRANCE INTO THAT, THAT VESTIBULE.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S THE BUZZER IS INSIDE THE VESTIBULE.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE MOVING THE BUZZER TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE SECURE VESTIBULE.

SO THAT WAY IT'S THE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT BARRIER INSTEAD OF THEM BEING, BEING ABLE TO GET INSIDE THE SECURE VESTIBULE.

SO WHEN WARREN COUNTY WAS BUILT BACK, I BELIEVE IT WAS 2017.

UM, AND WHICH IS OUR NEWEST SCHOOL, UH, THAT, UH, THAT, UM, THEY, FOR SOME REASON PUT THAT INSIDE THAT VESTIBULE, UM, DON'T KNOW WHY, UM, MAYBE THAT YOU FELT IT MEETS STANDARDS AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

UH, BUT WE FEEL THAT WE NEED TO BE MOVING THAT BACK OUT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THAT, THAT BUZZER WITH, WITH THE FISHEYE AND THE ELECTRONIC ENTRANCE TO THE OUTSIDE OF THAT, OF THAT BUILDING.

UM, BUT SHE WAS GOING AROUND AND CHECKING OUR SCHOOLS, LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE ON.

AND ANYTIME WE HAVE THOSE, SHE GIVES ME A CALL.

WE SAT DOWN, WE TALK ABOUT IT.

WE GO THROUGH AND GET WITH, UH, MR. LIVESAY AND THE MAINTENANCE AND WITH MR. BOOKSMITH.

UM, AND WE WILL, UH, GO THROUGH AND MAKE THE CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONTINUALLY UPDATING AND SECURING OUR BUILDINGS.

SO THOSE AUDITS ARE DONE ON A, ON A DAILY BASIS.

UH, WE ALSO, WE, WE, WE ALSO SEEK A LOT OF SECURITY GRANTS FROM THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.

UH, THOSE GRANTS ARE DONE FOR MULTIPLE REASONS.

SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE PUT GRANTS IN, I KNOW MS. MR. TIM GRANT HAS RECEIVED THE GRANTS FOR, UM, TECHNOLOGY PURPOSES, AS FAR AS FOR UPDATING CAMERAS.

UM, MR. LIVESAY HAS APPLIED FOR THAT GRANT TO UPDATE THINGS SUCH AS CARD READERS, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW KEYS, SOMETIMES KEYS ARE LOST.

WE ALSO KNOW SOMETIMES WHEN SOMEBODY LEAVES, THE KEYS ARE NOT ALWAYS TURNED IN OR WE CAN'T GET THOSE KEYS.

SO THEN YOU'RE HAVING TO RE-KEY EVERYTHING OR THERE'S KEYS FLOATING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY HAS A KEY TO THIS GYM OR TO THAT GYM.

AND THEN, UM, BUT THIS WAY WE ARE ABLE TO PUT THOSE, THOSE LOCKS ON, UM, WITH THAT CARD, IT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER THAT IF A KEY IS LOST, YOU HAVE TO RE-KEY THE WHOLE BUILDING WITH THAT CARD.

YOU JUST DEACTIVATE THAT CARD.

AND SO WE, WE DID GET SOME GRANTS AND I'LL JUST RUN THROUGH SOME THINGS HERE, UH, WITH OUR SECURITY GRANTS OVER THE PAST A YEAR AND A HALF TO TWO YEARS, UH, CARD READERS INSTALLED AT ALL OF OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

AGAIN, THIS ALLEVIATES THE NEEDS FOR EMPLOYEES WITH PERIMETER KEYS, UH, SECURITY, CAMERA, ADDITIONS, AND UPDATES TO SYSTEMS. HE WILSON MORRISON UPDATE ENTIRE INTERCOM SYSTEM, INCLUDING OUTSIDE SPEAKERS.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD FROM ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WHEN WE HAVE THE LOCKDOWNS, IF TEACHERS ARE OUT THERE ON THE PLAYGROUND, THEY DON'T HEAR IT.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE PUTTING SPEAKERS ON THE OUTSIDE SO THAT IT WILL ALERT THOSE STAFF MEMBERS.

THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON IN THE SCHOOL WHILE THEY'RE OUTSIDE ON THE PLAYGROUND.

UM, HE, WILSON MORRISON ADDED ADDITIONAL CAMERAS TO INDOOR AND OUTDOOR AREAS.

SKYLINE MIDDLE-SCHOOL INCREASED AND UPDATE CAMERA COVERAGE, WARREN COUNTY, MIDDLE SCHOOL UPDATE CAMERA COVERAGE, UM, WARREN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL.

WE, WE REPLACED NON-FUNCTIONING CAMERAS, BLUE, RICH TECH, AGAIN, REPLACED THE ENTIRE SECURITY CAMERA SYSTEM TO INTEGRATE WITH THE DISTRICT WIDE SYSTEM, UH, BRIGHTER FUTURES, DIVERSIFIED MIND'S EDITION OF INDOOR AND OUTDOOR CAMERAS.

SO WE, WE CONTINUED TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS TO WHERE WE CAN CONTINUALLY SECURE THOSE, UH, OUR FACILITIES.

AGAIN, SAFETY AUDITS ARE DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH WARREN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WITH LMK AND THE RENOVATION RIGHT NOW LMK DOES NOT HAVE A SECURE ENTRANCE.

SO WHEN PARENTS ENTER THE INTO THAT BUILDING, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE WHOLE SCHOOL, UH, BECAUSE THAT DOOR IS JUST, YOU GOT A HALLWAY THIS WAY AND A HALLWAY.

THAT WAY YOU CAN GO ANYWHERE IN THE BUILDING YOU WANT TO.

SO ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS WITH, WITH THE RENOVATION IS TO ADD THAT SECURE VESTIBULE OUTSIDE, UM, TO WHERE THERE'S, THERE'S THAT BARRIER AND KNOW, AND LIMITS THE ACCESS TO THE SCHOOL.

UM, ALSO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH,

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UH, UM, LESLIE FOX, KAISER, YOU LOOK AT THIS ROOM AND IT'S AN OPEN SYSTEM.

UM, ALL OF THE CLASSROOMS AT LSK ARE OPEN POD SYSTEMS. AND SO WHEN THAT OPEN POD SYSTEM, YOU COME IN A DOOR, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO FOUR OR FIVE CLASSROOMS DEPENDING UPON HOW MANY CLASSROOMS ARE IN THERE.

SO PART OF THE RENOVATION IS TO WALL THAT OFF AND SEPARATE EACH OF THOSE CLASSROOMS SO THAT THERE ARE BARRIERS BETWEEN CLASSROOMS AND NOT JUST AN OPEN POD SYSTEM.

SO, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE WANTING TO DO WITH LMK AS WELL.

UM, WE CONTINUE TO CONTINUALLY TO DO, UH, OUR LOCKDOWN DRILLS AS WELL AS COORDINATED CANINE WALK-THROUGHS ARE DONE AT EACH SCHOOL.

SO WE WORK WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

UM, THEY BRING THEIR, THEIR CANINES IN, THEY RUN THE HALLS, THEY RUN OUR CARS.

THEY, THEY, YOU KNOW, WE WORK WITH THEM ON MULTIPLE THINGS.

ALL OF OUR LOCKDOWN DRILLS, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS INVOLVED IN THAT.

UH, WHEN THERE IS LOCKED DOWN, THEY GO THROUGH, THEY CHECK DOORS.

UM, THEY CHECK, THEY, THEY WATCH IF WE'RE HAVING TO DO AN EVACUATION, UM, TO SEE HOW WE CAN IMPROVE AND WHAT WE, WHAT WE NEED TO WORK ON.

SO, UM, ALSO THIS YEAR WE ADDED A SOFT LOCKDOWN PROCEDURE.

CAUSE RIGHT NOW WHAT I FOUND WAS WE ONLY HAD A HARD LOCKDOWN, WHICH MEANS A HARD LOCKDOWN IS EVERYBODY STAYS IN THEIR ROOM.

A SOFT, LOCKED DOWN IS THE EXTERIOR NOBODY'S IN OR OUT, BUT THE EXTERIOR STAYS, BUT STUDENTS CAN STILL, UM, MOVE FREELY WITHIN THE SCHOOL.

UM, AND THAT'S IN CASE, LIKE, LET'S SAY THERE'S A BEAR OR SOMETHING.

THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT OUT ON THE ROAD IN FRONT OF A SCHOOL.

YOU DON'T WANT TO GO INTO A HARD LOCKDOWN FOR THAT, BUT IT'S OFF LOCKDOWN IS SOMETHING YOU DO GO INTO.

UM, SO JUST TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW, HEY, WE HAVE A SITUATION OUTSIDE.

WE'RE NOT GOING OUTSIDE.

EVERYBODY STAYS IN.

UH, SO THAT WAS ADDED.

UM, ALSO WE'VE ADDED NEW CAMERA SYSTEMS TO OUR BUSES AND ADDED ADDITIONAL CAMERAS.

SO WE HAVE FIVE CAMERAS PER BUS.

UM, THOSE ARE RECORDED.

THOSE ARE ON A, ON A CARD THAT WE CAN PULL AND, AND LOOK AT AT ANY POINT IN TIME.

ALSO, WE'RE LOOKING AT DIRECT COMMUNICATION TO OUR SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW.

UM, CURRENTLY WITH OUR, WITH OUR COMMUNICATION, IF A SCHOOL WANTS TO CONTACT THE BUS, THE SCHOOL HAS TO CALL TRANSPORTATION, TRANSPORTATION, THEN RADIOS THE BUS, THE BUS DRIVER RADIOS BACK THEN TRANSPORTATION HAS TO CALL BACK TO THE SCHOOL.

SO THERE'S A PROCESS THERE THAT CAN BE TIME CONSUMING.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW WITH OUR, OUR WIFI SYSTEMS ON OUR BUS TO GETTING WIRELESS RADIOS THAT WILL WORK OVER A WIFI SIGNAL.

UM, WE ARE ACTUALLY TESTING SOME OF THOSE RIGHT NOW.

LAST TIME I TALKED TO MR. GRANT AND MR. MITCHELL, UM, AND THEN THAT'LL GIVE US BASIS AT EACH OF OUR SCHOOLS TO WHERE THERE'LL BE A DIRECT LINE OF COMMUNICATION, UH, TO THE SCHOOLS FROM THE BUS DRIVER, SO THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT BIG LOOP THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH WHEN IT COMES TO COMMUNICATION AND CONTACTING A BUS OR A BUS DRIVER.

UM, WE HAVE UPDATED SOME OF OUR POLICIES, UH, AFTER, AFTER THE UNFORTUNATE EVENT AT ROBB ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, I DID GO, I SPOKE WITH SHERIFF BUTLER AND, UH, MAJOR DRISCOLL ON THAT A COUPLE OF DAYS AFTER THE EVENT.

UM, I SHARED WITH THEM AT THAT POINT IN TIME, OUR CALENDAR EVENTS FOR THE REST OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, UH, THEY MADE SURE THAT THEY HAD SOME EXTRA PATROLS IF SOMEBODY WAS DRIVING BY TO, TO COME AND, AND, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME OFFICERS DOING THEIR REPORTS IN THE PARKING LOT, UH, WHILE THE ACTIVITIES WERE GOING ON OUTSIDE.

SO WE WERE GOING TO SEE AN INCREASE OF, OF SECURITY AT OUR SCHOOLS.

UM, MAJOR DRISCOLL ALSO HAS MET WITH A D C J S OFFICIALS REGARDING DIGITAL MAPPING OF SCHOOLS.

UM, THE, I LOVE YOU GUYS ALERT PROGRAM AND STANDARDIZING REPATRIATION PROCESS FOR STANDARDIZED REUNIFICATION SHOULD A MAJOR EVENT OCCUR, A MAJOR DRISCOLL AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE LOCAL EMERGENCY PLANNING COMMITTEE, UH, DISCUSS THE SHELTER WALKTHROUGH, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THIS THURSDAY, CORRECT.

I BELIEVE SHELTER'S THURSDAY, UM, AND DETERMINED THE VIABILITY FOR USING SCHOOL FOR EMERGENCY SHELTER OPERATIONS SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL SPEAK ON HOW WE WOULD HANDLE A REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS AND DOMESTIC, UM, PROTECTION ORDER ISSUES, UM, AT THE SHELTER SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

WE'LL ALSO ADD TWO NEW SROS FOR NEXT SCHOOL YEAR AND HAVE RECEIVED ANOTHER YEAR OF DCGS GRANT AWARDS TO PAY FOR THE SRO AT DIVERSIFIED MINDS.

UM, ALSO PATROL DEPUTIES ARE ASSIGNED TO CHECK SCHOOLS DURING THE SCHOOL DAY AS PART OF THEIR REGULAR PATROLS, UM, EVERY SINGLE DAY.

SO NOT JUST DO WE HAVE THE SROS, UH, SHERIFF BUTLER INFORMED ME THAT HE HAS THE, UH, THE DEPUTIES AS PART OF THEIR PATROL TO, TO DRIVE BY AND MAKE

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A LOOP AND, UM, AT EACH OF OUR SCHOOLS.

SO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING THIS YEAR, UH, DURING OUR SUMMER TRAINING FOR ADMINISTRATORS, I'M BRINGING ON THE, UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UM, A DAY TO WHERE WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT INCIDENT COMMAND, UM, FROM THE, FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SIDE, UH, DISCUSS BROAD ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, DEVELOP RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN FIRST RESPONDERS AND THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE OUR SRO IS THERE, THERE'LL BE THERE FOR THAT TRAINING AS WELL.

AND THEN ALSO FOR, UM, JUST ADDITIONAL SRO TRAINING AND SCHOOL PERSONNEL TRAINING, UM, MYSELF, ALONG WITH SHERIFF BUTLER AND MAJOR DRISCOLL ARE GONNA TO, TO PRESENT THE DO'S, THE DON'TS WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE, WHAT OUR VISION IS, UM, FOR THE SRO PROGRAM AND HOW WE WANT THE COOPERATION, UH, WITHIN OUR SCHOOLS.

UH, SO WE'RE JUST GONNA CONTINUE TO BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP AS PART OF OUR OVERARCHING GOAL FOR SAFETY WHEN IT COMES TO, TO OUR SCHOOLS.

SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON THAT WE ARE REALLY PUTTING FORTH, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, OUR EFFORT IN MAKING SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN SAFETY AND SECURITY IN OUR SCHOOLS.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP.

UM, I DIDN'T HEAR, AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD IS THE TOP EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PERSON, AND I DIDN'T HEAR THAT POSITION.

SO COULD YOU INCLUDE THAT SO THAT WHOEVER'S CHAIRMAN IS INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS AS WELL AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, I WOULD THINK AS WELL.

UM, YEAH, I MEAN, THIS, THIS WAS, THIS WAS GOING ON BEFORE.

I'D HAVE TO CHECK TO SEE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT OUR CRISIS TEAM? YEAH.

I'LL LOOK INTO THAT.

YEAH.

UM, WELL, IT'S, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST PART OF THE JOB.

SO I CAN'T KNOW IF I DON'T GO AND I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO LEARN.

AND I THINK WHOEVER TAKES THIS POSITION NEXT WOULD FEEL THE SAME WAY.

UM, QUESTION IS THE, UM, SECURED FESTIVALS THAT WE DO HAVE IS THAT BULLETPROOF GLASS, OR JUST REGULAR THE ANSWER.

CAUSE, I MEAN, I, I AGREE WE NEED THOSE, BUT IT DOESN'T DO MUCH GOOD IF WE DON'T HAVE SOME, EITHER BULLETPROOF OR, UM, WHATEVER THE LOWER LEVEL OF A GLASS THAT IS TO PROTECT, THEY CAN JUST BLOW THROUGH IT.

UM, IS, WELL, I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT AND WHAT I READ ABOUT THE INCIDENT IN TEXAS WAS THAT DOORS WERE PROMPT.

AND I KNOW HISTORICALLY WHEN THE AIR CONDITIONING ISN'T WORKING DOORS GET PROPPED, UM, I'M ASSUMING THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF WE DON'T PROP DOORS.

AND WHEN YOU DO THE WALLS AT LK, ARE YOU GOING JUST ABOVE THE, THE TOWEL LEVEL OR ARE YOU GOING TO THE RAFT? SO WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT, WHAT IS REQUIRED MOST.

UM, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO GO TO DECK, UM, BECAUSE IT'S A FIRE RATING.

UM, THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A FIRE RATING WALL.

UH, SO THEY MAY HAVE TO GO TO DECK ON ALL ON ALL OF THOSE WALLS.

I'LL JUST HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE, UH, OUR FINAL DRAWING SHOULD BE COMING IN HERE PRETTY SOON, BUT I'M NOT, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION IF THEY'RE GOING TO DECK, UM, IN ALL OF THOSE PODS ARE NOT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND ALSO THE OTHER TRAINING YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, I'D LIKE TO SIT IN ON LISTEN TO THAT AS WELL.

THAT'S FROM MY PERSONAL STAFF.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DR.

BALLENGER, THANK YOU FOR THE SAFETY BRIEFING.

UM, I HAD ASKED MS. IF WE COULD GET THAT AND YOU DID IT, I THINK YOU'D ALREADY PLANNED IT THE, FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THE SAFETY BRIEF, UM, RETHINK ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE IS SRS.

UM, SO WE HAVE AN SR WE DO NOT HAVE SRO IS AT EVERY SCHOOL CURRENTLY, IS THAT CORRECT? NOT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

I KNOW THEY WERE SHORT-STAFFED RIGHT.

AND SO HOW MANY SCHOOLS ARE NOT COVERED? UM, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK THAT I THINK THEY WERE SHORT ABOUT FOUR.

MAYBE DON'T HOLD ME TO THAT.

I'D HAVE TO CHECK WITH SHERIFF BUTLER OR SERGEANT BURKE TO MAKE SURE.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE TWO NEW ONES COMING ON NEXT YEAR.

THAT STILL LEAVES TWO IT'S AT A DEFICIT.

SO, WELL, NO, THEY SAID THAT THEY ARE FULL.

THEY WILL BE FULLY STAFFED NEXT YEAR THAT WE WILL HAVE A FULL STAFF OF SRO.

AND I'M TOLD THAT SRS, AND MAYBE I NEED TO PROBABLY TALK TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AS WELL, BUT AS SRO SRS CAN OFTEN BE CALLED AWAY BASED ON CALLS AND LEVEL OF RESOURCE ALLOCATION FOR THE DAY IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

DO SO ARE, SO ARE THERE DAYS WHEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY SRS AT SCHOOLS

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BECAUSE OF RESOURCE ALLOCATION OR NO? NO.

THERE, THERE WOULD BE SOME THERE'S THERE'S ALWAYS ORANGE.

YEAH.

NOW I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT, UM, AS FAR AS FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR SRO WAS THERE EVERY DAY, ALL DAY.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT OTHER THINGS HAPPEN, UM, AND, AND THAT SOME MAY HAVE TO BE CALLED AWAY IN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS.

UM, AND, UH, BUT NO, WE ALWAYS HAVE COVERAGE.

UM, AND THEY ARE THERE, YOU KNOW, THOSE DESIGNATED SROS, UNLESS THERE IS SOMETHING, AGAIN, I DON'T GET INTO THAT SIDE OF IT.

I DON'T KNOW.

UM, AS FAR AS WHEN IT COMES, ARE THEY PULLED OR WHAT IS HAPPENING? I JUST KNOW IF WE ARE SHORT, UM, THEN SRO IS WE'LL ROTATE TO SCHOOLS AND COVER IT TO THE BEST.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE WITH OUR, OUR, OUR SUBSTITUTE TEACHERS THIS YEAR.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU YOU'RE SHORT STAFFED AND IN A LOT OF AREAS AND SRO HAS BEEN ONE OF THOSE.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW SHERIFF BUTLER AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO BE AN SRO, THE TRAINING IS DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR.

AND SO THAT PERSON HAS GONE UNTIL THEY GET THROUGH THAT ACADEMY BEFORE THEY CAN ACTUALLY COME IN, UM, AS, AND BS, BNS, SORROW.

IT'D BE KINDA NICE IF THEY CAN REVERSE THAT TO WHERE SOME OF THOSE ACADEMIES ARE OVER THE SUMMER TO WHERE, WHERE ONE SCHOOL STARTS.

UM, THEY'RE READY.

THEY'RE READY TO GO.

YEAH, I WOULD AGREE.

I THINK THAT FROM A SCHEDULING PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S PROBLEMATIC.

UM, ALSO, HAVE YOU SEEN AN INCREASE IN VIOLENCE IN THE SCHOOLS THIS YEAR? UM, I WOULD SAY WE SAW AN INCREASE IN BEHAVIORS.

UM, AGAIN, THIS IS MY FIRST FULL YEAR IN WARREN COUNTY.

THE LAST YEAR SCHOOLS WERE IN SESSION ONE TO TWO DAYS A WEEK, UM, EXCEPT FOR ELEMENTARY FEES.

UM, AND I THINK THAT ALL SCHOOLS ACROSS THE NATION EXPERIENCED SOME DIFFICULTIES THIS YEAR.

SO I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK BACK TO SEE KIND OF HOW THAT COMPARES TO PREVIOUS YEARS.

UM, BUT WOULD YOU DO THAT? I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT, IN THAT DATA.

UM, YEAH, I, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY MENTAL HEALTH, WE'RE IN A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS IN THIS COUNTRY.

IT'S VERY OBVIOUS.

UM, AND MY, ONE OF MY CONCERNS, AND I'D LIKE TO ASK HOW WARREN COUNTY HANDLES THIS IS IF YOU, THERE ARE KIDS THAT YOU ARE NOT EQUIPPED TO HELP.

AND I THINK SOMETIMES WE, UM, THOSE KIDS ARE JUST KIND OF, WE TRY TO HELP THEM, BUT WE'RE NOT EQUIPPED TO HELP THEM.

IT, WHAT IS THE PROCESS AT WARREN COUNTY SCHOOLS FOR REF REFERRING A CHILD WHO REALLY IS AN ISSUE THAT YOU CANNOT HELP BECAUSE I'M TOLD THAT YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T EXPEL STUDENTS, YOU CAN'T SEND STUDENTS OUT FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME ANYMORE.

THAT THE POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN HANDED DOWN BY THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION DON'T ALLOW FOR THAT.

SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME AND HOW WARREN COUNTY HANDLES IT? SO THAT'S MORE OF A, I THINK THAT'S NOT THE, UM, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.

I THINK THAT WAS A LEGISLATION THAT CAME THROUGH WHEN IT CAN, AS FAR AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND SUSPENDING, UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS PRE-K PRE-K THROUGH THIRD OR SOMETHING.

IT'S IT'S ELEMENTARY STUDENTS.

UM, AS FAR AS WHAT OUR PROCESS IS, WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO WHEN IT COMES TO THREAT ASSESSMENTS, UM, OTHER RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR SCHOOLS, UH, THEN WE START LOOKING AT OUTSIDE AGENCIES THAT, THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH.

WE DO INVOLVE, UH, MR. HIRSCH AND SPECIAL SERVICES, UM, IN THAT PROCESS, UM, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE AS A SCHOOL DIVISION CAN DO.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A, AN ADMINISTRATIVE HOMEBOUND THAT WE COULD UTILIZE THAT AT CERTAIN TIMES, IF WE NEED TO FOR SCHOOL SAFETY REASONS.

UM, BUT WE, WE LOOK AT THOSE AND THEN WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS THERE, IF THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR, OR EVEN THROUGH OUR PROGRAMS, WE HAVE DIVERSION AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE CAN WORK THROUGH IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE HELP TO THOSE STUDENTS WITH OUTSIDE SERVICES.

AND WE HAVE A LOT OF OUTSIDE SERVICES THAT DO MAKE HOME VISITS AND PROVIDE THE SERVICES TO THE FAMILIES IN THE HOME.

UM, BUT THERE THERE'S SO MANY, I MEAN, I COULD SIT HERE AND PROBABLY GO OVER ANOTHER 30 MINUTES WORTH OF THINGS.

WELL, WE WE'VE GOT A PUBLIC HEARING AND I DON'T WANT TO CUT THIS CONVERSATION TOO SHORT, BUT WE WILL BE MEETING NEXT WEEK ON THE 14TH.

SO RIGHT NOW, YEAH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'RE LIMITED IN OUR ABILITY TO HELP SOME OF THESE STUDENTS.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN DELIVERED THAT, UH, ALLOW, DON'T ALLOW YOU TO BE ABLE TO REMOVE STUDENTS FROM THE ENVIRONMENT FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME.

AND THAT SEEMS COUNTERINTUITIVE TO ME.

SO ANYWAY, UM, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT ANOTHER DAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I, I HAVE LIGHT QUESTION

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AND THEN COME BACK AND STATE YOUR PROXIMAL.

OKAY.

THIS YEAR, I DIDN'T REALIZE WE WERE ONLY HEARING DEADLINE.

WELL, WE MISSED THE FIRST ONE, SO WE'RE NOT TECHNICALLY WAY OUT, BUT WE'RE GETTING THERE.

SO, OKAY.

PUBLIC HEARING

[M.2. Ordinance to Amend and Re-Ordain Section 6-1(A) of the Warren County Code re: Warren County Airport Commission – Caitlin Jordan]

IS FOR ORDINANCE TO AMEND SECTION SIX DASH ONE OF THE WARREN COUNTY CODE AIRPORT COMMISSION MEMBERSHIP.

AND THAT IS MS. JORDAN MORNING, MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS, A LITTLE WHILE AGO, THE BOARD ACTUALLY APPROVED TO MODIFY THE AIRPORT COMMISSIONS BY LAWS THAT RESTRICTED, UM, MEMBERSHIP TO ONLY PEOPLE WHO LIVED WITHIN THE COUNTY, PRIMARY REASON BEING THE AIRPORT SERVES THE ENTIRE REGION, NOT JUST THE WARREN COUNTY.

AND SO IT, UM, SEEMED REASONABLE TO INCLUDE MEMBERS WHO LIVED OUTSIDE OF WARREN COUNTY.

HOWEVER, OUR WARREN COUNTY CODE, UM, LAYING OUT THE AIRPORT COMMISSION MAINTAINED ITS RESIDENTIAL RESTRICTION.

AND SO WHAT THIS PROPOSAL IS, IS JUST TO REMOVE THAT RESTRICTION, THAT THE CODE WOULD BE AMENDED TO REMOVE THE, THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT AND THAT, UM, ANYONE, EVEN PEOPLE WHO LIVE OUTSIDE OF WARREN COUNTY CAN SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO BE PART OF THE AIRPORT COMMISSION.

AND THEN THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WOULD REVIEW IT AND DECIDE WHO, WHO TO APPOINT.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THE ONLY QUESTION I WOULD ASK IS REALLY NOT A QUESTION.

DO YOU, IS THAT I GUESS WE WOULD CONSIDER WARREN COUNTY RESIDENTS OVER NOM, BUT IF WE GET NO WARREN COUNTY RESIDENTS, THEN WE, WE DON'T HAVE A COMMISSION.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE REASON WHY WE'RE EXPANDING THIS.

UM, UM, AND I GUESS THAT WASN'T AS MUCH A QUESTION AS AN EXPLANATION, MRS. SHIRAKI DID ANYONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? NO.

MA'AM.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS AT THIS TIME, SECOND CALLING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THIRD AND FINAL CALL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

ANY DISCUSSION MANAGE HERE? YES, SIR.

YEAH.

I THINK THAT THIS IS A, A GOOD MOVE.

IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT, UH, UH, THAT WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE FROM WARREN COUNTY WHO ARE APPLYING IT'S THAT, UH, I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST AND, UH, THIS COOK AND, UH, UH, OF, UH, CONGRATULATE THIS, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A COUPLE OF FOLKS WHO WERE, UM, UH, VERY WELL QUALIFIED, BUT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY LIVED OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY, UH, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO CONSIDER THEM FOR MEMBERSHIP.

AND, UH, SO I THINK THAT THIS IS A, A MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAVE ADOPTED PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND REORDERING SECTION SIX DASH ONE OF THE WARREN COUNTY CODE TO REMOVE THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT FOR MEMBERSHIP TO THE WARREN COUNTY AIRPORT COMMISSION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND RURAL HOME IS SHIRAKI MR. BUTLER.

BYE MRS. OATES.

HI, MADAM CHAIR.

I MRS. COOK I MR. MANE.

OKAY.

NOW WE CAN GO BACK TO

[F. Report – Warren County Public Schools – Dr. Chris Ballenger (Part 2 of 2)]

DR.

BALLENGER.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AND MS. COOK, YOU HAD A QUESTION.

YEAH.

SO THE CAMERAS THAT HAVE BEEN INSTALLED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, ARE THEY INTERRUPTED INTEROPERABLE WITH ANY OTHER AGENCY LIKE THE SHERIFF OR, YES, I BELIEVE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CAN ACCESS OUR CAMERAS.

AND ARE THE CAMERAS MONITORED NOW? HOW LONG HAVE I KEPT TRYING TO GET MY THOUGHTS TOGETHER? SO, SORRY.

UM, HOW MANY TIMES A DAY OR THESE CAMERAS MONITORED THROUGHOUT? UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T, I WOULD SAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC PEOPLES MONITORING THEM.

I WOULD SAY THE SROS WOULD MONITOR THEM WHEN THEY'RE IN THEIR OFFICE.

UM, I KNOW, UH, AT THE HIGH SCHOOLS, WE ALSO HAVE SOME,

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UH, EXTRA SECURITY PEOPLE THAT I BELIEVE THAT MONITORS ARE PULLED UP IN THEIR OFFICE.

UM, SO IT WOULD BE JUST WHEN THE SROS ARE IN THEIR OFFICE, SO THEY COULD, THEY COULD MONITOR THE CAMERAS AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

OKAY.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

DOES IT HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF HOOKING TO SMARTPHONE SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THAT WHILE THEY'RE WALKING AROUND AND NOT HAVE TO BE IN ONE PLACE? THAT'S A TIM GRANT QUESTION.

OKAY.

I KNOW THERE ARE SYSTEMS BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT AT HOME.

SO I WOULD THINK I'M SURE IT'S CAPABLE OF THAT, BUT I DO NOT WANT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE THAT, THAT THAT'S OUT OF MY REALM AS FAR AS CAPABILITY OF UNDERSTANDING IF THAT'S, IF OUR SYSTEM IS ABLE TO DO THAT OR NOT, MR. GRANT TAKES PRIDE IN TRYING TO KEEP OUR SYSTEM LOCKED DOWN FROM OUTSIDE ATTACKS.

AND SO THERE'S THINGS THAT, THAT HE DOES, THAT HE WILL NOT OPEN OUR SYSTEM TO BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT THAT THEN OPENS THAT DOOR FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DR.

BALLENGER? OKAY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

WE ARE AT BOARD

[G. Reports – Board Members, County Administrator, Interim County Attorney]

REPORTS, MR. BUTLER.

YES.

THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIR, THE, UH, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.

UH, I MET WITH, UH, MR. LENZ, UH, LAST WEEK AND, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS A, UH, JUST WANTED TO SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH THEM ABOUT HOW THINGS WERE GOING WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION.

AND, UH, WE HAD A, UH, UM, PROBABLY ABOUT AN HOUR LONG CONVERSATION IN, UH, I'M VERY, UH, VERY PLEASED WITH THE WAY THAT HE'S, HE'S RUNNING THINGS OVER THERE.

UM, AND, UH, UH, ALSO THIS WEEKEND, WE HAD A, UH, UH, A SOCCER EVENT THAT, UH, ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER AND I I'LL LET, UH, LET THE BOARD MEMBER, YOU KNOW, SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF.

UH, WE MET, UH, UH, OVER AT THE SOCCER PLEX AND, UH, WE REPRESENTED THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR THE, UH, UH, SOCCER AWARDS.

THEN, UH, LAST WEEK I MET WITH, UH, OF MR, UH, SABO, UM, NICK SABO OF, AT THE, UM, UH, UP AT WINCHESTER AND TALK TO HIM ABOUT HOW THINGS ARE GOING WITH THE, UH, THE AIRPORT HERE.

AND, UH, THEN, UH, ALSO, UH, HAD AN IMPROMPTU MEETING WITH MR. SEAN ROWE.

HE'S ON THE, UH, UH, AIRPORT BOARD FOR, UH, WARREN COUNTY.

AND, UH, WE, UH, WE, WE HAD A NICE CONVERSATION AND WE ALSO, UH, UH, HAD A, AN IMPROMPTU MEETING WITH, UH, MEMBERS OF THE SOARING CLUB AT, UH, AT THE AIRPORT.

AND IT WAS, UH, IT WAS VERY, UH, UH, OF, UH, VERY ENLIGHTENING AND, UM, UM, ENJOYABLE.

SO MADAM CHAIR, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

MRS. COOK.

UH, YES.

UM, ABOUT THE THIRD WEEK IN MAY, I ATTENDED THE BROADBAND TOGETHER CONFERENCE IN RICHMOND.

UM, THIS WAS A VERY INFORMATIVE, UH, FORMATIVE CONFERENCE WHERE THE SERVICE PROVIDERS AND OTHER, UM, BROADBAND PARTNERS GOT TOGETHER TO DISCUSS THE FUTURE OF, OF STATEWIDE BROADBAND, UM, INITIATIVE.

AND THEY ALSO TALKED ABOUT ALL THE CHALLENGES AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE COMING UP, UM, THAT, THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO, UM, TO, TO THE LOCALITIES.

A COUPLE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT, THAT, THAT THEY DID TALK ABOUT, WHICH WE ALL HAVE HEARD OVER AND OVER IS REALLY ABOUT THE CURRENT INFLATION RATES, THE LABOR SHORTAGES, YOU KNOW, ALL THE SUPPLY ISSUE, CONCERNS THAT ARE, UM, THAT WE'RE ALL, ALL OF US ARE FACING IN OUR EVERYDAY LIVES AND HOW THEY ARE IMPACTING ANY FUTURE PROJECTS.

UM, THERE WERE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT WERE DISCUSSED THERE, THERE'S OTHER FEDERAL AND STATE GRANTS AVAILABLE, UH, THAT PROMOTE EDUCATING AND TRAINING THE WORKFORCE AND THE PUBLIC, HOW TO USE THE INTERNET AND HOW TO, UH, AND THE, UM, THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONNECTIVITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE, AS WELL AS IT THEY'D BEEN TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY CALL EQUITY OF SERVICES THAT HELP, UM, UH, PEOPLE WITH LOW INCOME LEVELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THOSE ARE KIND OF NICE THINGS THAT THE STATE IS PROVIDING.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, UH, I WAS HOPING TO, TO HEAR WHERE WE ARE ON OUR CURRENT PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING IN PLACE, AND THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION ON, ON THAT AT ALL.

SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST, UM, MAYBE IF WE CAN HAVE AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE LIFECYCLE OF OUR REGIONAL BROADBAND PROJECT, UM, I I'D BEEN GETTING THERE NOT A LOT, BUT IF YOU EMAILS OF CONSTITUENTS, YOU KNOW, ASKING WHERE, WHERE WE ARE ON IT AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY SHOULD HOLD OFF AND THAT KIND OF THING.

SO, UM,

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IT'S JUST A REQUEST THAT, UM, UH, I'M, I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU.

I CAN ANSWER PART OF THAT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.

SURE.

UM, MY FIRM REPRESENTS THE NORTHERN SHENANDOAH VALLEY REGIONAL COMMISSION, AND THAT'S THE ENTITY THAT IS HAVING THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS.

THE STATE PROVIDED A NEW TEMPLATE VERY RECENTLY, I'VE BEEN AWAY FOR THE LAST 10 DAYS.

SO SOME OF THIS INFORMATION IS A COUPLE OF WEEKS OLD, BUT IT WAS BASICALLY ALL VERY MUCH IN PROCESS WITH NEGOTIATIONS OVER WHAT THE CONTRACTS WAS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, ET CETERA.

SO THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FINALIZED NOW, JUST BECAUSE I HAVEN'T TALKED TO MY PARTNER, JORDAN, WHO REPRESENTS THAT ENTITY ABOUT THIS ISSUE FOR A WHILE, BUT CERTAINLY HE WAS IN THE THICK OF NEGOTIATING THAT ON BEHALF OF THE NORTHERN SHENANDOAH VALLEY, REGIONAL COMMISSION.

AND, UM, I THOUGHT THEY WERE CLOSE TO BEING DONE.

SO THERE'S DEFINITELY LOTS OF PROGRESS AND THINGS HAPPENING.

SO, UM, DEEP DARK HOLE ON EIGHTH STREET IN RICHMOND MA'AM AND STATEWIDE THE CONTRACTS, INCLUDING THE ONE THAT, UH, LITTON AND SIPES HAS WORKED FOR THE REGIONAL COMMISSION.

AND FOR EACH OF THE JURISDICTIONS ARE ALL SITTING THERE VERY NEATLY TOGETHER.

THE MONEY IS THERE AND IT'S ALL DOWN IN THIS HOLE ON EIGHTH STREET CORNER OF EIGHTH AND MAIN.

SO AS SOON AS WE CAN GET SOMETHING OUT OF EIGHTH AND MAINE, OUR CONTRACTORS READY TO GO TO WORK, AND I FEEL THE, THE, UM, THE TIMING OF ADMINISTRATION SWITCH OVER HAS AFFECTED THIS PROFOUNDLY ON SPEED OF GETTING THINGS DONE, UM, WHICH IS IT'S, IT'S LIKE WAITING FOR CHRISTMAS AND CHRISTMAS IS JUST NOT COMING FAST ENOUGH.

SO, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THE GOVERNOR HAS ANNOUNCED THAT EVERY, ALL THE STATE EMPLOYEES ARE SUPPOSED TO GO BACK TO WORK AND THAT'S GOING TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS ON GETTING THIS GOING WELL, LET'S HOPE SO.

I WOULD SAY THAT WE'RE STILL IN THE INITIATION PHASE OF THE PROJECT.

WELL, WE'RE BEYOND INITIATION.

WE HAVE A GRANT AWARD AND WE HAVE A CONTRACT THAT HAS GONE THROUGH THE AGS OFFICE AND HAS BEEN APPROVED.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF SOMEBODY AT EIGHTH AND MAIN SIGNING.

OKAY, ERIC, SO WE'RE BEYOND THE INITIAL AND THE CONTRACTOR'S ALREADY GEARING UP AND READY TO GO.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU, MR. MABE.

UM, YES, MADAM CHAIR.

UM, LAST WEEK I WAS AT THE SCHOOL BOARD ON WEDNESDAY, UH, FOR AS MUCH OF THAT AS I COULD, I COULD BE THERE FOR, UM, ALSO ON THURSDAY, WE HAD A BOARD OF THE WELL AND SEPTIC, UM, PROGRAM WHERE IT'S AN APPEAL PROCESS.

SO IF THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT A WELL THAT, WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT FOR SOMEBODY, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO IT, AND THEN WE CAN MAKE A DECISION WHETHER WE'LL ACCEPT IT OR NOT.

UH, IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM.

UM, LET'S SEE.

I MET WITH QUITE A FEW CONSIST CONSTITUENTS LAST WEEK, TALKED ABOUT VARIOUS THINGS, TRASH, UM, ROADS, PRETTY MUCH ACROSS THE BOARD TAXES, YOU NAME IT.

UM, LET'S SEE.

UM, ON SATURDAY, WHICH WE HAD A, UM, MEETING WITH THE ASSOCIATION, UH, SOCCER ASSOCIATION, UH, W I HAD IT WITH MR. BUTLER, UH, IT WAS A REALLY GOOD MEETING.

UM, UH, I JUST HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE A BUNCH OF YOUNG PEOPLE DOING WHAT THEY DO BEST, WHICH IS PLAY.

AND EVERY ONE OF THEM, UM, EVERY ONE OF THEM'S GOING TO BE A FUTURE LEADER SOMEDAY BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING AND THEY'RE DOING, AND THEY'RE BECOMING ACTIVE AND THEY'RE PART OF AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S, UH, OUTSTANDING.

AND, UH, I W I'M JUST TICKLED THAT I WAS ABLE TO GO AND BE PART OF THAT.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, THE OTHER NORMAL ROUTINE THAT WE HAVE EVERY WEEK, WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY.

AND, UM, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.

SO THANKS VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

MRS. OATS.

UM, MADAM CHAIR, UH, I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND BOTH GRADUATIONS, WARREN COUNTY, HIGH SCHOOL AND SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL, UH, LAST WEEK WITH YOU.

AND IT WAS DELIGHTFUL TO SEE YOUNG PEOPLE'S FACES, PARTICULARLY THEIR SMILES, NOT COVERED IN MASK, AND THEY WERE EXCITED TO BE, UH, GOING ON TO THEIR ADULTING IN LIFE.

UM, SOME OF THEM WILL BE SHOCKED, BUT, BUT IT WAS WONDERFUL.

AND THERE WAS SO MUCH COMRADERY.

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UM, I, IT WAS SUCH A FAMILY ATMOSPHERE AT BOTH HIGH SCHOOLS.

UM, AND, AND I FELT, YEAH, I FELT LIKE THERE WAS A SENSE OF COMMUNITY, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WAS ABSENT DURING COVID.

AND SO IT WAS A WONDERFUL SENSE OF COMMUNITY AT BOTH OF THOSE SCHOOLS.

UM, I HAD THE HONOR OF ATTENDING THE DOGS OF WAR MEMORIAL CEREMONY AT THE HUMANE SOCIETY.

UM, THAT WAS TWO DAYS OR TWO DAYS BEFORE THE ACTUAL MEMORIAL DAY SERVICE.

AND THEY, UM, HONORED THE DOGS WHO HAD SERVED IN WAR.

AND THIS IS JUST AN INCREDIBLE STORY.

AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO GO OUT AND SEE THIS, BUT THEY'VE CREATED A MEMORIAL PARK OUT AT THE HUMANE SOCIETY FOR THESE DOGS.

AND THE STORY WAS TOLD THAT IN THE FIRST DOG TO ENTER WORLD WAR TWO CAME FROM WARREN COUNTY.

SO YES, IT WAS, IT WAS GREAT AND INTERESTING INFORMATION.

AND SO, AND THEN WE HONORED THEIR SACRIFICE BECAUSE THESE DOGS, PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO TAKE A BULLET FOR THE PERSON THAT THEY'RE COVERING.

AND SO, UH, THAT WAS, IT TOUCHED MY HEART.

IT WAS WONDERFUL FOR ALL OF YOU WHO KNOW ME WELL KNOW THAT I'M A DOG MAMA.

AND, UH, SO ANYWAY, THESE CREATURES ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR FAMILY.

UH, AND THEN I ATTENDED THE MEMORIAL DAY, UM, UM, COMMEMORATION DOWNTOWN AT THE COURTHOUSE, AND IT WAS VERY TOUCHING.

UM, THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE THERE WHO HAD BEEN AFFECTED BY THE LOSS OF A FAMILY MEMBER WHO HAD SERVED THIS COUNTRY FOR THE SAKE OF FREEDOM.

AND, UH, YOU COULD NOT HELP, BUT TO FEEL MOVED, UH, AND THANKFUL FOR THOSE SACRIFICES AND THOSE YOUNG MEN WHO ARE WILLING, AND SOME OF THEM WERE BARELY 18 YEARS OLD.

UM, AND THEY, UH, ACKNOWLEDGED ALL OF THE LOCAL PEOPLE WHO HAD SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES, WHO HAD GIVEN THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE.

AND, UH, MEMORIAL DAY IS A DAY THAT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO EMPHASIZE MORE TO OUR CHILDREN AND TO THE COMMUNITY.

UM, ALSO I HAD THE TOURISM MEETING LAST WEEK AND THE WINE AND CRAFT FESTIVAL WAS A VERY BIG SUCCESS THIS YEAR.

IT WAS A WELL ATTENDED AND THERE WERE JUST, THERE WAS LOTS OF BUZZ ON MAIN STREET.

UH, YOU CAN TAKE, YEAH, I KNOW.

SO ANYWAY, LOTS OF BUS ON MAIN STREET AND IT WAS A GOOD EVENT.

AND SO WE HAVE LOTS OF OTHER EVENTS COMING UP IN TERMS OF, UM, OPPORTUNITIES TO ATTEND AN IN THE COMMUNITY OF THIS BEAUTIFUL VALLEY THAT WE GET TO CALL HOME.

THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, ON MAY 18TH AND 19TH, I HAD THE PLEASURE ON BEHALF OF THE ROYAL TAN CLUB.

I'M A MEMBER TO GIVE SCHOLARSHIPS TO, TO DESERVING YOUNG LADIES, ONE FROM WARREN COUNTY AND ONE FROM SKYLINE.

AND I'VE READ THE BIO ON THESE TWO YOUNG LADIES.

AND I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHEN THESE KIDS HAD TIME TO SLEEP BETWEEN REGULAR CLASSES, AP CLASSES, DUAL ENROLLMENT, SPORTS, WORKING, AND DOING COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERISM.

I DON'T KNOW IF ONE HAD A 4.8 AND THE OTHER YOUNG LADY, I WANT TO SAY A 4.2 OR BETTER GRAPE POINT AVERAGE.

I, I IS JUST AMAZING.

UM, ONE ONE'S DO YOU MAJOR IN KINESIOLOGY, THE OTHER ONES TO BE A SURGEON AND FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE JUST IN HIGH SCHOOL, I'M SURE THEY'LL MAKE THOSE GOALS.

UM, THE 26, WE DID A WALKTHROUGH OUT AT THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES FOR THE PLANNED RENOVATION OF THE SENIOR CENTER.

JEFF HAYES, UM, DID THE WALKTHROUGH WITH US AND WE HAD PEOPLE, OUR COUNTY STAFF HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK OUT THERE, DONE A LOT OF AMAZING WORK THAT IS GOING TO SAVE US A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY IN THAT RENOVATION OF THAT.

AND, UM, THAT IS GOING TO BE AN ONGOING, UH, PROJECT.

HOPEFULLY FIRST OF NEXT YEAR IS THE GOAL TO GET THE SENIOR CITIZENS MOVED.

I HAVE NOT IN THEIR CURRENT LOCATION, BUT I'VE HEARD IT IS.

UM, TH THEY HAVE WELL OUTGROWN AT, AND IT SERVED ITS PURPOSE, UM, ON THE 28TH, UH, MRS. OATES AND I BOTH ATTENDED, UH, THE GRADUATIONS.

AND AGAIN, IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL DAY, UM, MUCH BETTER THAN THE LAST TWO THAT I WENT TO.

ONE WHERE I SAT IN THE RAIN.

THE OTHER ONE, I, I FELT LIKE I WAS GOING TO DIE OF HEAT STROKE, BUT, UM, SO IT WAS NICE.

IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.

THERE WAS A NICE BREEZE.

YOU COULD NOT HAVE ASKED FOR A MORE BEAUTIFUL DAY TO START THE REST OF YOUR LIFE AS AN ADULT.

AND I'M NOT SURE THEY HAVE ANY IDEA.

I USED TO TELL THEM WHEN THEY WERE KIDS AND THEY WANTED TO GROW UP,

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BE AN ADULT IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS.

ENJOY BEING A CHILD, BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE A CHILD MUCH LESS THAN YOU'RE AN ADULT.

UM, MAY 30TH.

I DID ATTEND THE MEMORIAL DAY SERVICE AND I WANT TO THANK ROBERT MCDOUGAL, MR. BARR, ANYONE WHO PUT THAT ON THAT IS SUCH AN AMAZING EVENT.

WE, WE CANNOT FORGET THOSE WHO SACRIFICED EVERYTHING TO GIVE US THE, THE FREEDOMS WE ENJOY AND THOSE WHO DON'T APPRECIATE THOSE FREEDOMS. UM, I THINK THEY NEED TO GO TO A FEW OF THESE CEREMONIES AND MY COUSIN, LARRY SMEDLEY, WHO WAS, UM, HONORED THAT DAY.

AND, AND, UM, HE WAS JUST BARELY 18.

AND, UM, HE HE'S ON THE PLAQUE THERE ON THE MEMORIAL, AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF HIM ALWAYS HAVE BEEN, MAY NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.

UM, JUNE 2ND ARE WE'RE 10, AND I'M ALWAYS PUSHING VOLUNTEERISM, BUT WE DID DINNER FOR THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE IN NEED.

AND WE COULD USE VOLUNTEERS TO HELP ANY TIME WITH THAT.

UM, THEN ON JUNE 3RD, I MAY HAVE LOST A FRIENDSHIP HERE.

I WAS ASKED TO VOLUNTEER AT THE CONCESSION STAND AT BEING FOR THE CARDINALS GANG.

I THOUGHT, SURE, NO PROBLEM.

AND THEN THEY SENT ME ANOTHER MESSAGE AND THEY SAY, CAN YOU GET SOME MORE HELP? AND I'M LIKE, OKAY.

SO I ASKED MRS. COOK AND SHE VOLUNTEERED.

SHE MAY NEVER DO THAT FOR ME AGAIN.

UM, AND I HAD TWO YOUNG LADIES ANGEL AND RYAN, AND THAT HAD JUST GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL AND I VOLUNTEERED THEM AS WELL.

THEY WERE AWESOME.

ABSOLUTELY AWESOME.

THEY, THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE WAS OUTSTANDING AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY THAT GAME WAS PACKED.

AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY THAT CAME IN THERE DIDN'T STOP AND GET SOME FOOD.

AND I DON'T THINK THEY'D EAT.

AND THEN A WEEK, BECAUSE WE COOKED ALL NIGHT LONG, WHICH I'M GLAD.

BUT IF, UM, IF ANYBODY'S GOT SOME SPARE TIME, THE CARDINALS NEED HELP.

AND IT IT'S A LOT OF WORK, BUT IT WAS A LOT OF FUN TOO.

IT WAS.

AND WE WORKED WELL TOGETHER.

YES.

I, I APPRECIATED YOU BEING THERE.

AND LIKE I TOLD HER WHEN, WHEN SHE LEFT, I SAID, I'M SORRY.

AND SHE SAID, YOU OWE ME.

WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT, UM, I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO VOLUNTEER FOR ANYTHING IN THE COMMUNITY, SO PLEASE REACH OUT.

BUT AS FAR AS, UH, URINE IN LIGHTS, I'M JUST KEEPING IT A LITTLE TALLY.

DR.

DALE, THANK YOU FOR REACHING OUT TO ME FOR THAT.

I REALLY ENJOYED IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MA'AM UH, SOME OF US ARE STILL ENJOYING OUR CHILDHOOD GRADUATION OR NOT.

THAT IS TRUE.

UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.

MA'AM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY IS THE FRONT ROYAL WARREN COUNTY EDA.

IT IS INCORPORATED AND ESTABLISHED BY BOTH BODIES AND BOTH BODIES HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THAT ORGANIZATION AND THEY CANNOT JUST IGNORE IT BY CREATING THEIR OWN WARREN COUNTY CAN CREATE A WARREN COUNTY EDA, BUT THIS BODY THAT EXISTS TODAY IS A JOINT BODY.

IT IS NOT MORE THAN COUNTY EDA AS ALLEGED, AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS CLEAR FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND.

UM, NEXT WEEK, JUNE 14TH, UH, WE WILL HAVE A WORK SESSION AT SIX O'CLOCK.

UH, AS YOU MENTIONED TO DISCUSS, UM, THE FINANCES FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, FOR THE NEW BUDGET AND, UH, MEETING WITH, UH, TO REVIEW EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING IN PREPARATION FOR THE MOVE AT SHENANDOAH FARMS. UM, IF THERE ARE, MR. ROBERTSON HAS A, UH, UPDATE ON ALL OF THEIR FINANCES GOING BACK, UH, FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, WHICH HE WILL HAVE.

AND MR. BARRY HAS AN UPDATE ON THE, UM, ROAD PROJECTS, THE REVENUE SHARING PROJECTS WITH V DOT, UH, MR. HAM WILL DISCUSS THE LEGAL IMPLICATIONS WITH YOU SHORTLY AND A LITTLE BIT CLOSED SESSION.

OTHER THAN THAT, IF THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY, IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD.

WE HAVE ONE, UH, APPLICATION MA'AM MRS. FOUR APPLICATIONS.

OKAY.

WE'RE UP TO FOUR APPLICATIONS FOR THE ADVISORY BOARD AND YOU HAVE THE DRAFT

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BYLAWS HERE TO CONSIDER TODAY.

AND ONCE THEY'RE APPROVED, YOU CAN MAKE THOSE APPOINTMENTS AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE BY THE 28TH.

SO THAT THEN THAT BOARD CAN BEGIN MEETING TO GIVE YOU A RECOMMENDATIONS AND SO FORTH ON THAT OUR MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES, OUR CREW WORKING FROM MR. KOHLFELD WILL CONTINUE AS THEY ARE, UH, TODAY I THINK, YEAH, THE AREAS BACK THERE, CHIEFS HEIGHTENED THEM FOR ME.

UM, REMIND YOU THAT IN JULY, WE HAVE ONE MEETING THE SECOND TUESDAY, MA'AM THIRD, TUESDAY, CORRECTION, THIRD, TUESDAY.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, TALK, WE TALKED ABOUT THE BROADBAND AND WHERE WE ARE MOVING THAT UP.

UH, YESTERDAY SHERIFF BUTLER AND I ATTENDED THE SECOND MEETING OF THE, UH, DRUG COURT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR NEW BYLAWS IF YOU WILL, FOR THE DRUG PROGRAM, UH, IN ANOTHER MEETING NEXT MONTH.

AND WE WILL, THEN WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF RECRUITING A, UH, DRUG COURT ADMINISTRATOR AND MOVING THAT WHOLE PROJECT ALONG THERE.

AND WE'LL THEN TAKE APPROXIMATELY ONE YEAR FOR ALL THE TRAINING THAT'S REQUIRED AND SUBMITTING THE APPLICATION TO THE STATE FOR FUNDING AND SO FORTH FOR, TO MOVE THAT ALONG.

WE HAVE THE FUNDING FOR THE ADMINISTRATOR IN OUR BUDGET.

IT HAS BEEN APPROVED IN THE TOWN BUDGET AND VALLEY HEALTH HAS INDICATED THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE THIRD PIECE COMPONENT TO THAT.

SO WE'LL BE HAVING THIS IMMEDIATE YEAR AFTER THIS YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING AT APPLYING FOR THESE STATE FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR DRUG COURT OPERATIONS.

UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SITES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, FOR THE LOCATION OF THE DRUG COURT.

AND THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED AGAIN LATER IN JULY.

THERE'S A MEETING IN JULY THAT, UH, THE CHAIR AND MRS. OATES WILL BE TENDING TO DISCUSS THAT PROJECT.

AND THE AIRPORT SUPERINTENDENT HAS BEEN HIRED AND JAKE IS ON THE JOB OUT THERE AND WE ARE MOVING THAT FORWARD.

SO THAT EFFECTIVE JULY ONE, HE WILL BE TAKING OVER ALL THE OPERATIONS.

WE ARE ADVERTISING THROUGH MRS. SCOTT AND PROCUREMENT, THE, UM, FIXED BASE OPERATOR TO REPAIR PLANES AND EQUIPMENT.

WE WILL BE TAKING OVER THE FUEL OPERATIONS OURSELVES.

THAT MONEY MIGHT AS WELL GO TO THE AIRPORT SINCE WE'RE PROVIDING THE STAFF THERE, UM, BUDGET, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF TWEAKING THAT WE WILL NEED IN OUR BUDGET.

THE KELTY SIDE, IT'S PRETTY LIMITED.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CHANGE IN THE COUNTY BUDGET, BUT THERE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT, UH, THE PROPOSED, UH, AGREEMENT THAT IS WAITING FOR THE GOVERNOR'S SIGNATURE, UH, THAT RETAINS OUR, THE GROCERY TAX ON LOCALS.

SO THAT 1% WOULD STILL BE THERE.

SO OUR BUDGET IS RELATIVELY INTACT AND THERE'S LITTLE, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT, BUT VERY LITTLE ADDITIONAL FUNDING ON OUR SIDE.

ON THE SCHOOL SIDE, AS THE SUPERINTENDENT MENTIONED, WE'RE WAITING AND THEY ARE WAITING TO RECEIVE THEIR FORMAL CALCULUS PAGE THAT SHOWS ALL OF THE, UH, THE SCHOOL BUDGET LAST, THE CURRENT YEAR IS 63 MILLION MR. ROBERTSON.

AND THE INITIAL INCREASE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU IN MARCH IS APPROXIMATELY 6.5 MILLION.

AND THEN THE NEW BUDGET IS GOING TO HAVE APPROXIMATELY 2 MILLION PLUS APPROXIMATELY 1 MILLION, MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL FOR CONSTRUCTION.

AND THEN THERE IS 1.9 MILLION THAT IS REQUESTED IN TRANSFERS FROM THE CURRENT BUDGET BETWEEN THE CATEGORIES, THE ITEM THAT YOU HAVE TABLED UNTIL THE 28TH TO LOOK AT AND THEN LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A BOUT 1.8 AND THEY AUDIT THAT YOU'VE JUST RECEIVED

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AND REVIEWED WITH MR. LUMPKIN, UH, THAT WILL BE SCHOOL FUNDING CARRY OVER THAT THE BOARD WILL NEED TO LOOK.

SO ALL TOLD YOU HAVE BOUT ALL NOT QUITE 12 MILLION TO LOOK AT.

THAT GOES VARIOUS AND SUNDRY PLACES IN THE BUDGET.

AND THE SCHOOLS WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION.

ONCE THEY GET THE CALCULUS, THEY CAN SHOW YOU WHERE ALL OF THAT GOES AND WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH IT.

AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU HAVE THIS $16 MILLION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AT A L F K AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, IF YOU REMEMBER HAS 8 MILLION, THESE ARE ALL APPROXIMATE NUMBERS, BUT THEY HAVE 8 MILLION IN CARES ACT AND ARPA FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THIS.

SO THEY WERE LOOKING TO THE COUNTY FOR APPROXIMATELY 8 MILLION, PERHAPS AS MUCH AS 8.5.

AND OF THAT THERE'S 2.5, 3.5 IN SPECIAL PROJECTS, 2.5, 3.5, THEN A 3.5 AND THERE'S A MILLION IN THE NEW BUDGET FOR CONSTRUCTION.

SO THAT TAKES 4.5.

THERE IS A MILLION IN THE, UM, MONEY THAT THE SCHOOL SCHOOLS HAD RETAINED LAST YEAR FOR CAPITAL, THAT THE BOARD HAS RESERVED TO GO TO SCHOOL CAPITAL PROJECTS.

AND THAT CAN TAKE US AS HIGH AS FIVE TO 5.5, BECAUSE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT ASKING FOR PART OF THAT FOR ANOTHER PROJECT.

SO THEN THERE IS WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION COMMITTEE WAS MEETING MRS. COLORS.

I BELIEVE THERE WAS ABOUT 1.2 THAT COULD BE TAKEN OFF IF NECESSARY.

SO THERE'S A NET, ALL BOILING, ALL THAT DOWN.

WHEN WE PUT IT ON A PIECE OF PAPER WOULD LOOK LIKE ABOUT 2.3 MILLION THAT WOULD STILL BE NEEDED FOR THE PROJECT.

SO KEEP THAT NUMBER IN MIND.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER SIDE OF WHAT ALL IS AVAILABLE IN THE OPERATIONS, AND WE'LL BE TALKING MORE WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT ABOUT THAT NEXT TUESDAY.

AND THEN I BELIEVE THE BOARD HAS A WORK SESSION ON WEDNESDAY ABOUT THIS TOO.

SO YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK THEM, LISTEN TO THIS TWICE, WEDNESDAY OF THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK NEXT WEDNESDAY, NEXT WEDNESDAY, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE CALC SHEET YET.

SO THE LITTLE SHEET THAT YOU HAVE FROM THE NORTHERN BUDGET HAS NOT BEEN FULLY UPDATED AND RELEASED YET TO KNOW WHAT THAT PUTS IN EVERY CATEGORY.

DR.

DALEY.

UM, SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, AND MAYBE THIS IS AN ADJACENT QUESTION FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT IF WE INCREASE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF THE BUDGET THAT WE APPROVED, THAT THE SCHOOL APPROVED, DO WE HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING? YES.

OKAY.

SO THERE WILL HAVE TO BE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THIS BUDGET IS APPROVED.

OUR BUDGET OF TOTAL THAT INCLUDED THE INITIAL 70 MILLION FOR SCHOOLS HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND SO THAT'S BEEN DONE WHEN WE ADD THIS OTHER 3 MILLION, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING AND BECAUSE OF THE TIMING, AND WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO GET THIS INFORMATION, WE ANTICIPATE TALKING WITH MR. ROBERTSON, THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE TO YOU, THAT YOU ADOPT A BASELINE BUDGET FOR JUNE 28TH, THAT WILL NOT COVER ALL OF THE INCREASES AND THAT THEN YOU HAVE YOUR PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT THAT HAVE REVISED BUDGET AND INCREASED BUDGET IN JULY SO THAT YOU WOULD DO THE BUDGET IN TWO PHASES ENOUGH BEFORE JUNE 30 TO KEEP THE DOORS OPEN AND SO FORTH, JULY ONE, BUT THEN THE SUPPLEMENT THAT GIVES YOU MORE TIME TO LOOK AT WHAT ALL IS INCLUDED IN THIS.

AND WELL, WHERE'D THAT 12 MILLION GO.

THIS WILL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AND SEE, AND WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A SPECIAL NIGHT FOR THAT.

INSTEAD

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OF DOING THAT ONE, THE ONE NIGHT WE HAVE A MEETING OR INCORPORATED IN I, ALL THESE, UM, PLANNING, COMMISSION THINGS.

UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ONE MEETING IN A MONTH IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE TO ADD ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.

THAT'S WHY I QUESTION IT.

WE, THAT'S A GOOD, GOOD, VERY VALID POINT.

WE MAY WANT THE BOARD MAY WANT TO CONSIDER HAVING A MEETING THAT SECOND WEEK.

UH, WE'LL HAVE TO APPROACH THAT GINGERLY, WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING IN JULY.

WOW.

OKAY.

AND I WAS GOING TO SAY, AT SOME POINT, WE NEED TO REVIEW HOW WE'RE APPROVING THESE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS BECAUSE WE SET, I MEAN, WE HAVE 15 OF THEM AND THE MAJORITY OF THEM WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE.

IT'S ONLY THOSE THAT ARE CONTENTIOUS THAT WE DON'T, THAT REALLY TAKE UP THE TIME.

SO PERHAPS WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GO THROUGH THEM AND, YOU KNOW, DO THE MORE EXPEDITIOUSLY THAN WE DO NOW, UM, BECAUSE OF THE TIMEFRAME.

BUT YEAH, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SAVE SOME TIME WITH, YOU KNOW, THE AUTHORIZATION TO PUBLISH.

IT IS NOT REQUIRED.

NOW THAT COURSE GIVES THE, THE BOARD THE ABILITY TO SAY, WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE PUBLISHED, INSTEAD OF HAVING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OR THE ZONING PERSON DO IT.

UM, BUT YOU CAN SKIP THAT STEP.

BUT OTHERWISE, UNFORTUNATELY YOU HAVE, YOU ARE STATUTORILY REQUIRED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM, EVEN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO.

YEAH.

BUT I KNEW WE DIDN'T HAVE TO ADVERTISE IT, WHICH GIVES IT A LONGER, TAKES A LONGER TIME, RIGHT.

IT ALWAYS HAS TO BE ADVERTISED.

THE ONLY STEP YOU STEP YOU CAN SKIP IS THIS CONSENT AGENDA STUFF THAT YOU DO IN TODAY ON AUTHORIZATION FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

OTHERWISE YOU, UNFORTUNATELY YOU HAVE, THAT'S JUST PART OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.

SO I MISUNDERSTOOD.

SO THE AUTHORIZATION IS WHAT WE, THAT THAT'S THE STEP THAT WE CAN SKIP, WHICH WOULD SHORTEN THE LIFE CYCLE OF DOING THAT.

IT WAS SHORT AND IT SLIGHTLY, IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH OF YOUR TIME.

IT JUST ALERTS YOU TO THE FACT THAT THEY ARE THERE, WHAT IT DOES NOW, YOU COULD SHORTEN IT.

IF YOU MADE A CONDITION THAT ONE HAD TO LIVE IN THE PROPERTY FOR ONE YEAR BEFORE THEY WERE ALLOWED TO TURN IT INTO A SHORT TERM RENTAL, THAT WOULD CHANGE YOUR APPLICATIONS THERE TREMENDOUSLY, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL OUTSIDE APPLICANTS.

BUT THE PROCESS EVEN THEN WOULD BE THE SAME.

SO YOU'RE JUST EXTENDING IT A YEAR, A YEAR LATER, BUT THEN WE WOULD BE REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF NOW PERMITS.

SO ANYTHING ELSE DR.

DAILY, I WOULD NOTE THAT, UH, THIS IS LOGAN MENTIONED THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO STREAMLINE THESE, ALL THESE CONDITIONAL USES.

THEY ARE FLOODING OVER THE MOUNTAIN.

YEAH.

THEY'RE COMING QUICKLY AND THERE'S LOTS OF THEM AND THEY TAKE LONG.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF HOURS INVOLVED.

AND SO IF THERE IS A WAY TO STREAMLINE IT WITHIN THE CODE OF VIRGINIA, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.

IT'S AMAZING TO ME, WE KEEP BEING TOLD THAT THERE'S NO HOUSING IN WARREN COUNTY.

WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT UP, I WAS GOING TO SAY SOMEBODY IS FINDING THEM, OH, THE PROBLEM THAT I'M.

AND I THINK THAT JASON CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO THIS TOO, IS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PUT A MORATORIUM ON BEING ABLE TO EVICT PEOPLE FROM TRADITIONAL LEASES AND TRADITIONAL RENTERS.

AND NOW THAT HAS PERPETUATED THIS SHORT-TERM RENTAL, UH, BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THESE OWNERS ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE THEIR OWN PROPERTIES WITHOUT BEING STUCK WITH PEOPLE WHO DON'T, WHO WON'T LEAVE.

UM, I'VE MET WITH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OWNERS IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS.

WHO'VE TOLD ME THAT GOOD POINT.

WELL ALSO THE PLANNING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, I GO TO THEIR MEETINGS KIND OF REGULARLY.

UM, AND THEY'RE DOING A TERRIFIC JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE, THE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS.

SO IT'S LIKE A FORMALITY WHEN IT COMES TO US FOR US TO SAY, YES, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO IT.

AND I I'M ALL FOR THAT.

BUT IF WE'RE NOT SEEING BOTH SIDES OF IT AND LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE, IT KIND OF CATCHES US BY SURPRISE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? DR.

DAILY STAFF LIKES MY IDEA THAT YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN THE PLACE A YEAR BEFORE YOU CAN START RENTING IT.

YEAH.

GIVE THEM SOME BREATHING ROOM THERE.

MR. HAM.

I HAVE NO REPORT.

ALRIGHTY.

APPROVAL

[H. Approval of Minutes – Meetings of May 17th and May 24th, 2022]

OF MINUTES.

ARE THERE, UH, MAY 17TH OF MAY 24TH, 2022.

ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS,

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ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED THE CHAIR? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MAY 17TH OF MAY 24TH.

SECOND ROLL CALL MRS. SHIRAKI MR. MABE, MRS. COOK.

I MADAM CHAIR.

I MRS. OATES.

MR. BUTLER.

OKAY.

CONSENT AGENDA.

[I. Consent Agenda]

ARE THERE ANY ITEMS TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION? UH, YES.

MADAM CHAIRMAN.

I HAVE, UM, SOME ITEMS THAT I'D LIKE TO REMOVE FOR DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

UM, ITEMS ONE EIGHT A THROUGH J AND ITEM NINE, 10 AND 11.

OKAY.

ONE.

I COULDN'T FIND MY PAPER.

SORRY.

SO I GOT TO, SO NUMBER ONE WAS EIGHT, EIGHT NUMBER.

OH, YOU SAID NUMBER ONE IS IN FIRST.

I AM SO SORRY.

YEAH.

EIGHT, A THREE J.

OKAY.

AND, UM, ITEMS NINE, 10 AND 11.

OKAY.

ACTUALLY 11.

UM, WELL, NOT YET.

IT'S NOT A 9, 10, 11.

UM, MR. HAM HAD REQUESTED THAT WE PULL A NUMBER 11, SO, UM, I'LL LET HIM DISCUSS THAT ONE IF YOU DON'T MIND.

NOPE.

YEP.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THESE? IF NOT.

IS THERE, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE, UH, REMOVAL FOR DISCUSSION OF NUMBER EIGHT, A THROUGH J NINE, 10 AND 11.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MR. BUTLER, MRS. OATES, MADAM CHAIR.

I MRS. COOK I MR. MABE.

OKAY.

MR. HAM, NONE

[I.11. Purchase of Public Safety Annual Physicals and Approval of Carryover of Funds from FY 2022 to FY 2023 – Chief James Bonzano/Alisa Scott]

ITEM 11, WHICH IS PURCHASE OF PUBLIC SAFETY, ANNUAL PHYSICALS, AND APPROVAL OF CARRY OVER FUNDS FROM FYI 2022 TO 2023.

YEAH.

AND THIS IS FOR, IN ORDER TO, TO HAVE, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY, ANNUAL PHYSICALS THROUGH THIS COMPANY.

AND, UH, MY FIRM JUST REQUESTED THAT Y'ALL DELAY THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, SO THAT CHIEF MANZANO CAN SPEAK WITH MY PARTNER, MELISSA, WHO KNOWS A LOT ABOUT EMPLOYMENT LAW, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME EMPLOYMENT LAW IMPLICATIONS FOR GETTING INTO EMPLOYEES, HEALTHCARE ITEMS. AND, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THIS IS OBVIOUSLY BEING DONE TO, UH, TO HELP EMPLOYEES, BUT THEY'VE, THEY'VE GOT RIGHTS AND THEIR SENSITIVITIES, AND THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED BEFORE IT COMES BEFORE THE BOARD, UH, IN SORT OF INTERNALLY BETWEEN THE CHIEF AND MY PARTNER, MELISSA.

OKAY.

SO YOU WOULD LIKE US TO DELAY THIS UNTIL, UM, JUNE 28TH OR TO JULY? I THINK JUNE 20TH WOULD BE FINE, BUT I ALSO THINK IT IT'S IT, I WOULD PREFER THAT IT WAS JUST TABLE GENERALLY AND THEN BROUGHT UP WHEN IT WAS DONE.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, AFTER THEIR DISCUSSIONS, I DON'T KNOW ANY REASON NECESSARILY WHY IT COULDN'T HAPPEN ON THE 28TH, BUT AS A RESULT OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, THERE MIGHT BE, UH, I THINK THE TIMING WOULD BE BETTER IF IT WAS FLEXIBLE WITH THE GOAL BEING THE 28TH.

SO JUST TABLE, IT WOULD BE MY PREFERRED RECOMMENDATION TABLE.

SO WE HEAR MR. HAM'S CONCERNS AND CERTAINLY MORE THAN WILLING TO WORK WITH HIS STAFF TO ADDRESS ANY OF THEIR CONCERNS.

WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING THE 1582 PHYSICAL PROCESS WE HAVE SINCE JULY ONE.

UH, SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE ALREADY ENTERED INTO THIS.

THE BOARD APPROVE THAT THROUGH THE BUDGETARY PROCESS, UH, THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, UH, WHAT THIS PROPOSAL IS, IS TO REALLY CHANGE VENDORS.

OUR FEAR IS IF WE DELAY, WE'RE GONNA LOSE OUR BLOCK OF DATES.

UM, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS GIVEN US THE AUTHORITY TO GO AHEAD AND EXECUTE THIS SIGN.

HAVE DR.

DALEY SIGNED THE CONTRACT TO LOCK IN THE DATES WERE NOT OUT ANY MONEY SHOULD WE CHOOSE TO PULL THE PLUG BASED OFF OF JASON STAFF RECOMMENDATION? WE'VE ALREADY BEEN, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN UNDER THE TIMEFRAME OF OUR BLOCK OF DATES FOR DECEMBER SINCE MAY.

UH, IF WE KICK THE CAN FARTHER DOWN THE ROAD, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THE BLOCK OF DATES.

AND POTENTIALLY IF WE DECIDE TO DO THE PHYSICALS, W PUSH IT

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OUT FARTHER INTO THE YEAR, WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING IS EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO A VENDOR IN WINCHESTER BY THEIR BIRTH MONTH.

SO THEY'RE GOING EACH MONTH.

SO POTENTIALLY WHAT WE HAVE IS THE EMPLOYEE THAT WAS IN JANUARY, WHO HAD THEIR ANNUAL PHYSICAL, WE'RE ALREADY PUSHING IT BEYOND THE ONE YEAR DATE BY PUSHING IT TO DECEMBER.

THAT'S OUR BLOCK OF DATES.

UM, THEY'RE ALREADY SCHEDULING INTO 2023.

UM, THAT'S WHY WE, THAT'S WHY THIS SHOWS A 20, 22 AND A 2023 DATE TIMEFRAME.

UH, AND THE PHYSICAL, OUR FEAR IS, IS IF WE DELAY SIGNING ON JUST TO LOCK THE DATES, UM, WE'LL LOSE THAT.

YEAH.

AND I DON'T, I DIDN'T KNOW ANY OF THAT.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT ALREADY BEEN IMPLEMENTED, WHICH MEANS YOU'VE PROBABLY GONE THROUGH SOME OF THE ISSUES WE WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT ANYWAY.

SO YEAH, I'M, I'M FINE WITH, IF THE BOARD WANTS TO TAKE ACTION TODAY, I STILL WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO REACH OUT TO MELISSA TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH THAT.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE WERE NECESSARILY SAYING NOT TO DO THIS, BUT JUST TO BE AWARE OF SOMETHING THAT SOME OF THE SENSITIVITIES AS YOU IMPLEMENT IT.

SO I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THERE WAS A TIME SENSITIVE ISSUE, SO I'VE GOT NO PROBLEM WITH THE BOARD WANTS TO TAKE ACTION TODAY.

SO I WOULD SUGGEST PERHAPS THAT IF YOU WILL WANT TO APPROVE THIS, YOU DO SO AN AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO SIGN WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

AND THAT'D BE FINE TOO.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT WHAT DR.

DALEY? YEAH, I THINK IN, IN LIGHT OF THE TIME CRUNCH THAT IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO GO AHEAD AND DO THIS, UH, IN ADVANCE.

SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF PUBLIC SAFETY, SAFETY, ANNUAL PHYSICALS, AND APPROVAL OF CARRY OVER A FUNDS FROM THREE WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS, UH, CONCURRENCE WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S SIGNATURE.

NO, NO AUTHORIZE DR.

DALEY TO SIGN IT.

WE CONCUR WITH MY CONCURRENCE.

DR.

DALE IS GOING TO BE THE ONSITE.

I'M HAVING A ROUGH DAY.

I JUST HAVE TO TELL YOU HOW TO GET HOME UNTIL MIDNIGHT.

I DROVE FROM SOUTH CAROLINA.

SO FORGIVE ME, IS THIS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME JUST TO ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS AS WELL ABOUT THIS? OH, WELL, THANK YOU.

UM, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE BUDGET PROCESS AND ON ALL OF THIS.

SO, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TRUST TRANSFERRING FUNDS FOR FISCAL YEAR 22, RIGHT.

2 23 TO COVER IS THAT, OH, THANKS THAT TO COVER IT.

SO MY QUESTION IS BECAUSE I'M NEW TO THE BREAD, THE BUDGET PROCESS AND HOW THINGS WORK.

SO WAS MY FIRST QUESTION IS, WAS THIS, I THINK IF I LOOK AT THE NUMBERS OF THE TOTAL COST OF SOMETHING WAS 36 K.

AND THEN WHEN I LOOKED AT THE BUDGET LINE ITEM, THERE WAS 50 K, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRANSFER 30, 26 FROM 52 TO 23 QUESTION.

DOES THAT INCREASE THE BUDGET LEVEL FOR FISCAL YEAR 23? NOT TECHNICALLY THAT'S ENCUMBERED FUNDS FROM FISCAL YEAR 22.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THOSE FUNDS HAS TO BE USED FOR THE APPROVED PURCHASE OF THE PHYSICALS.

IT CAN'T BE USED FOR ANYTHING ELSE.

SO IT DOES NOT INCREASE THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 23.

IT JUST EXTENDS A PERIOD WHERE YOU CAN EXPEND THE FUNDS INTO FISCAL YEAR 23.

OKAY.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'M SORRY, I HAVE TO ALWAYS SAY THIS, BUT I'M A PERFORMANCE PERSON WHEN I LOOK AT THINGS.

SO, YOU KNOW, MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE TRANSFERRING THE MONEY OVER TO PAY FOR ALL OF US, YOU KNOW? UM, SO DID WE UNDERESTIMATE WHAT WE NEEDED FOR THIS, THIS PROGRAM, IF YOU WILL, ACTUALLY, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE JUMPING INTO THE SECOND PHASE OF THIS PROJECT A LITTLE EARLY, SO THAT WE CAN GET THE SCHEDULE BLOCK THAT'S MOST DESIRABLE TO FIND RESCUE VOLUNTEERS.

UM, THE FIRST PHASE WAS JUST FOR EMPLOYEES, FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.

THE SECOND PHASE WAS FOR VOLUNTEERS.

SO WE'RE JUMPING INTO FISCAL YEAR 23, PHASE TWO.

NOW JUST FOR SCHEDULING PURPOSES, WHAT WE ACTUALLY DO MA'AM IS SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY IN THE 23 BUDGET BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO USE OUR 22 MONEY FOR IT.

RIGHT? NOPE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF IT.

JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S FLOWING, SO, OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? WE HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? MADAM CHAIR, ROLL CALL MRS. SHIRAKI MR. MABE, MRS. COOK.

[01:30:01]

I MADAM CHAIR.

I MRS. OATES.

HI, MR. BUTLER.

OKAY.

MRS. COOK

[I.8. Renewal of Annual Term Contracts – Caitlin Jordan/Alisa Scott]

ITEM EIGHT.

OKAY.

I DON'T, I KNOW WE HAVE A TARGET TO GET OUTTA HERE BY NOON TIME, SO I'LL TRY AND DO THE BEST I CAN.

OKAY.

WHAT SETS YOUR LUNCH? SO YOU'RE GOOD.

LOGAN TOOK CARE OF IT.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, I WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE CONTRACTS AND, UM, KINDA DID A QUICK ANALYSIS AND A WIN, NOT A QUICK, ACTUALLY, IT WAS A LONG ANALYSIS AND ALL OF THESE CONTRACTS, THERE ARE, UM, COMMON QUESTIONS.

SO, UM, WHAT I, WHAT I'VE DONE IS TO SEGREGATE LIKE GENERAL QUESTIONS VERSUS INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

SO I'M TRYING TO EXPEDITE IF YOU WILL, UM, GETTING THROUGH THIS, SO TO BEGIN WITH, FOR THE GENERAL QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

UM, LOOKING AT THE COVER SHEETS OF ALL OF THESE CONTRACTS, I KEEP SEEING THAT, YOU KNOW, UNDER THE FA UM, COST AND FINANCE, LET ME JUST PULL UP ONE REAL QUICK HERE.

OKAY.

UM, WE'LL START WITH THE FIRST ONE, A UNDER THE COST AND FINANCING PORTION OF THE COVER SHEET.

MAJORITY OF ALL HAVE SAID THIS CONTRACT IS FOR SERVICES ON, ON NEEDED BASIS.

THERE'S NO REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR FISCAL YEAR 23.

I GET ALL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE CANNOT HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT THE FISCAL YEAR CEILING, IF YOU WILL, OF THE PR OF THE SERVICES PERFORMED.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THIS AS AN ADD NEEDED BUSINESS, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, YOU CALL THEM WHEN YOU NEED THEM.

BUT, YOU KNOW, FROM MY EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH CONTRACTS, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CEILING OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO EXPAND, THAT OPENS UP TO WHAT THEY CALL SCOPE CREEP.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

WHERE THERE'S NO CHECK AND BALANCE OF, OF, UM, WHAT CAN BE AUTHORIZED AND NOT AUTHORIZED.

NOW I, MY SUGGESTION ON MY PART AND HOW TO PUT THESE TYPES OF ESTIMATES TOGETHER IS GO TO THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR.

WHAT DID YOU, WHAT DID YOU PAY FOR THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR AND DO SOME MAGIC DR.

DAILY, YOU HAVE A BUDGET LINE ITEM MA'AM AND THAT LINE ON HIM, SINCE THAT'S ALL THEY CAN SPEND.

SO TAKING THE FIRST THING, BE IN V EXCAVATING FOR HIRED EQUIPMENT.

YOU CAN ONLY HIRE THAT EQUIPMENT WITHIN THE BUDGET.

SO YOU DO HAVE, THE BOARD HAS CREATED AN ESTIMATE AND SAID, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $3,000.

THAT'S AN ARBITRARY NUMBER, BUT WE'LL JUST PICK A NUMBER WE'RE ON THIS FULL, THIS LINE ITEM, WHATEVER THAT LINE ITEM IS.

AND WE MAY USE HIRED EQUIPMENT.

SO WE MAY USE SOMETHING IN BNB TO HIRE $500 WORTH OF THAT 3000, BUT WE CAN'T GO OVER THAT 3000 BECAUSE THAT'S THE BOARD'S LIMIT.

SO THERE IS A LIMIT ON ALL OF THESE.

CAN WE HAVE HIM ON THIS COVER SHEET? I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THESE LINE ITEMS ARE OR WHAT, YOU KNOW, UH, ACCOUNTS THAT ARE COMING FROM.

AND IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT TO ME, I'M HAPPY WITH THAT.

SURE.

JUST TO ADD TO WHAT DR.

DAHLIA WAS SAYING.

ALSO WITHIN THE BUDGET, YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE PURCHASE ORDERS FOR EACH PROJECT.

SO WHILE THESE CONTRACTS PROVIDE YOU WITH AN HOURLY RATE FOR EQUIPMENT OR FOR LABOR, BEFORE WE BEGIN A PROJECT, WE'RE GOING TO GET AN ESTIMATE FROM, LET'S SAY, BRACEY ENGINEERING, FOR EXAMPLE, AND YOU HAVE THOSE PROJECT PROJECTS LISTED THAT RACI IS GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A PROJECT ESTIMATE.

WE JUST GOT IT.

AFTER THIS COVER SHEET WAS CREATED FOR A PARTICULAR PROJECT.

I BELIEVE IT WAS THE ROCKLAND ROAD, UM, UH, ROCKLAND PARK, A BASKETBALL COURT.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE A PROJECT WE WERE PROPOSAL FOR, FROM THEM FOR THIS PROJECT.

SO IT'S MY DESIRE TO WORK TOWARDS A TASK ORDER SYSTEM, WHERE ONCE WE GET A TASK ORDER FROM THE ENGINEER, WE ASSIGN THEM A PURCHASE ORDER.

AND SO THAT PURCHASE ORDER HAS A, DO NOT EXCEED AMOUNT THAT INCLUDES THE HOURLY RATES FROM THE CONTRACT.

SO

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WE DON'T HAVE PARTICULAR COSTS FOR EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING UNTIL THEY FINISH THOSE CONTRACTS.

BUT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THOSE PROPOSALS TOGETHER FROM THESE FIRMS NOW.

OKAY.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

THANK YOU.

SO, UH, MIKE WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING UM, I THINK WHAT MS. COOK WAS SAYING, UH, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING ALYSSA SAID, BUT ADDITIONALLY, LIKE WITH OUR LANDFILL, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH LABELLA EACH YEAR AND I TYPICALLY ATTACH IT TO MY BUDGET AND PRELIMINARILY, ALL OF THE, I HAVE A SECTION, UM, FROM THE ENGINEERS AND TELLS YOU BASIC ENGINEERING THAT TELLS YOU FOR LANDFILL GAS, THEY'LL TELL YOU FOR WHAT ARE MONITORING EACH PROJECT.

I SPECIFICALLY HAVE A BUDGET, UM, THAT THEY SUBMIT TO ME PRIOR TO SUBMITTING TO YOU.

SO I DO HAVE A LINE ITEM, AND THEN IF WE GO OUTSIDE OF THAT SCOPE, FOR INSTANCE, UM, IN YOUR MEMO, IT MENTIONS THE COLI CONVENIENCE SITE, EXPANSION QUALITY HAVE A CERTAIN BUDGET FOR GENERAL ENGINEERING.

I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CURRENTLY WITHIN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR.

UM, PLAN FOR THAT BECAUSE WE DID NOT PLAN TO GO ENGINEER THAT SITE THAT TIME.

SO, UM, WE DO, WE DO PLAN AHEAD AND WE DO GET, UM, INFORMATION FROM THE ENGINEERS.

ADDITIONALLY, WITH TASK ORDERS, LIKE WITH RACING ENGINEERING, WE WILL HAVE A TASK ORDER IF WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND WE'RE GOING TO SURVEY A ROAD WE'LL REQUEST, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

AND THEN WE'LL GET A TASK ORDER.

AND WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET WITH ALYSSA, BUT WE OWN THESE PROJECTS, WHICH RACI ENGINEERING.

UM, WE WILL USE LIKE ONE OLD OAK, FOUR AND FIVE, AND ADDITIONALLY, LIKE GEI FOR OUR HARD EQUIPMENT.

THAT'S CONTRACTED THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE WHEN WE START BUILDING THE ROAD, WHICH I'M SUPPOSED TO UPDATE YOU ON.

BUT IF I DON'T HAVE THEM ON CONTRACT, I'LL BE OPERATING OUT OF CONTRACT.

ADDITIONALLY FOR V THAT, UM, I HAVE TO SHOW THEM THAT I HAVE ALL MY DUCKS IN A ROW WHEN, UH, WHEN WE HAVE THESE CONTRACTS IN PLACE TO BUILD THE ROADS BECAUSE WE ARE BUILDING OURSELVES.

UM, A LOT OF THESE CONTRACTS, UM, ARE USED CARROLL CONSTRUCTION FOR INSTANCE, IS USED FOR ASPHALT PROJECTS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE USING GEI CURRENTLY TO DO SOME PA PAVING, JUST HAULING MATERIAL OUT AT THE GOLF COURSE.

SO, UM, WE DO HAVE A SCOPE.

UM, OFTEN WE, WE DO HAVE A TASK ORDER IN FOR, FOR THE LARGER ITEMS AND I CAN GIVE YOU THE, THE BUDGET IT COMES FROM FOR LABELLA.

I MEAN, I CAN BREAK DOWN, BUT SOME OF THESE ARE USED ON MULTIPLE BUDGETS OR EMERGENCY REPAIRS AT A TIME.

AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE US TO COME INTO YOU AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO SAY, HEY, I NEED TO MAKE AN APPROPRIATION.

UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I HAVE A SPECIAL PROJECT OR THE PROJECT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, THOUGHT ABOUT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND WE HAVE TO GO AND SOME MOVE THIS FUNDING OVER SUBOR CAN WE MOVE $10,000 TO COMPLETE THIS REPAIR THAT'S NEEDED TODAY AT THE GOLF COURSE, ALL THESE CARS PASS.

WELL, I, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND, UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL THE CHECKS AND BALANCES AND THE INTERNAL CONTROLS OF TRACKING THESE COSTS.

NOW I LOOKED AT THE BUDGET AND, YOU KNOW, WELL, WHEN I LOOK AT THESE INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTS, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW WHERE THE BUDGET IS BEING, UH, WHERE, WHERE ARE THESE CONTRACTS ARE APPLYING TO BASED ON THE SCOPE THAT YOU PUT HERE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I GO TO THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST SEE A LINE ITEM THAT JUST SAYS MAINTENANCE, AND MAYBE I'M MAKING THE ASSUMPTION BY LOOKING AT WHAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, THAT THOSE MAINTENANCE COSTS WILL INCLUDE THIS BNB, YOU KNOW, UH, CONTRACT OR THIS CONTRACTOR THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO MAKE THOSE ASSUMPTIONS.

SO GOING BACK TO THIS TWO DAILY WAS SAYING, I MEAN, IF, IF I CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, IT JUST PUT THE LINE ITEM IN SAYING THIS IS THE, UM, ACCOUNT CODE THAT THE, UM, THE, THE ESTIMATE IS COMING FROM.

AND JUST, SO THERE IS THAT, THAT ALIGNMENT B YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, AND MAYBE THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE SLEIGHT USED TO DO THIS, YOU KNOW, BUT SOMETIMES WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE THERE AND THE INVOICES ARE COMING IN, IF THERE IS NOTHING THAT THEY CAN LOOK AT TO DETERMINE IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE OVER EXCEEDING THE BUDGET, THEY'LL JUST KEEP APPROVING INVOICES, RIGHT.

AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GOT TO OVERRUN AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

SO AS LONG AS WE DO HAVE THOSE APPROPRIATE CHECK AND BALANCES, THAT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BEFORE APPROVING SOME OF THESE CONTRACTS.

SO IF YOU WANTED TO, UM, IF THE BOARD WANTED TO TABLE,

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THIS WILL PUT THE BUDGET LINE ITEM AND THE ESTIMATE ON EACH OF THOSE COVER SHEETS FOR YOU, OR WE'LL JUST MAKE IT IN A CHART ONE OR THE OTHER, WHICHEVER YOU'D LIKE, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THOSE CHART THAT SHOWS YOU ABOUT THESE THINGS, BUT WE CAN ADD THAT.

YEAH, I, I WOULD LIKE IT.

SO BECAUSE YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW I AM.

AND SO WHEN I START MEASURING PERFORMANCES IN, GO INTO FISCAL YEAR, OUR NEXT FISCAL YEAR, I'M GOING TO BE MEASURING PERFORMANCE.

AND SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE EXPENDITURES, I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT LINE ITEM TO SEE WHERE YOU ARE AND, YOU KNOW, PERCENT COMPLETE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO THAT WOULD BE VERY, YOU KNOW, UM, HELPFUL FOR ME WITH THAT MASTER CONTRACT SPREADSHEET, THERE WAS IN YOUR AGENDA AND PROVIDED TO YOU.

I'VE ADDED A COUPLE OF COLUMNS TO THAT SINCE THEN, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE WHAT THE CONTRACT SAYS.

THERE'S A, DO NOT EXCEED FOR THE ENTIRE LIFESPAN OF THE CONTRACT.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, RACY $500,000 IS THE CAP FOR RACY.

AND THEN I'VE TAKEN IT INTO CONSIDERATION.

THE CONTRACT'S BEEN IN EFFECT SINCE 2014.

SO EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE SPENT SINCE 2014 IS GOING TO BE IN A SEPARATE COLUMN, WHICH IS GOING TO BE CURRENT EXPENDITURES.

AND WE CAN FURTHER BREAK THAT DOWN INTO LINE ITEMS THAT THE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE LIMITED TO THE REMAINDER OF THE CONTRACT WILL FALL UNDER WHAT THE BUDGET CODE IS FOR THAT AND WHAT THE CURRENT EXPENDITURE IS FOR THAT AS WELL AS WHAT THEY HAD PROVIDED TO US AS A PR PROPOSAL THAT WE ACCEPTED PREVIOUSLY, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

SURE.

YEAH.

SO THEN, UM, SO NEXT QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS OF ALL THESE CONTRACTS, HAVE THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN PRE NEGOTIATED WITH THE VENDORS? YES, THEY HAVE.

SO THEY HAVE ALL ACCEPTED THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS IN THE, UM, RESOLUTIONS.

YES.

YES.

THESE HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY, UM, COMPETITIVELY SOLICITED.

SO JUST FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN OUT THERE FOR OVER SIX YEARS AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, UH, COSTS THAT THEY, THAT THEY ESTIMATED IN THOSE CONTRACTS, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, IF IT WAS INITIATED IN FISCAL YEAR 17, THEY HAVE AGREED TO NOT TO RAISE THEIR RATES FOR FISCAL YEAR 22.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE STILL APPROVING USING FISCAL YEAR $17.

IF THEY HAVE ASKED FOR A RATE INCREASE, THAT RATE INCREASE HAS EITHER ALREADY BEEN APPROVED IN PREVIOUS YEARS OR HAS BEEN PROVIDED IN THIS CURRENT MODIFICATION.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, GEI, THEIR CURRENT RATES ARE ATTACHED AS AN EXHIBIT TO THEIR CONTRACT MODIFICATION BECAUSE THEY HAVE INCREASED THEIR PRICING.

RIGHT.

THAT'S 8%, I THINK WASN'T THAT INCREASED.

SO, UM, SO, OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, CAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE APPROVE THE, UH, APPROVED THESE CONTRACTS AND THEN YOU GO OUT AND THEN YOU NEGOTIATE AND THEY SAY, OH NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO FISCAL YEAR $17 IN LABOR, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'D HAVE TO COME BACK.

SO, UM, OKAY.

SO THEN THE, SEE THE, NO.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

AND, UM, LAST, LAST GENERAL QUESTION THAT I HAVE HERE IS THAT RIGHT NOW WE WE'RE LOOKING AT TOTAL UP 10 CONTRACTS FOR RENEWAL RIGHT NOW THAT WE'VE GOT TO GET DONE BEFORE THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR AND EIGHT OF THEM ARE NOT UP FOR RENEWAL.

THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO FOR THOSE EIGHT, SO NOT UP TO RENEWAL, WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH AGAIN, THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS, COMPETITIVE BIDS ARE YES.

OKAY.

YES.

AND I'VE ACTUALLY ADDED A COLUMN FOR THAT AS WELL.

THE DATE THAT WE NEED TO BEGIN SOLICITING FOR THESE CONTRACTS.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

CAUSE I JUST FINE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO ALL THAT BEING SAID, I CAN SKIP THROUGH SOME OF THESE.

UM, THE FIRST, UH, QUESTION THAT I HAVE ON AN INDIVIDUAL CONTRACT IS, UH, THE FEDERICK, ANDRE ARCHITECTS AND BEING A FORMER ACQUISITION PROFESSIONAL.

I, I, UH, WHAT I DID IS I LOOKED AT THE RESOLUTION.

I LOOKED AT THE, THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT TO SEE WHEN THE CONTRACT WAS ACTUALLY INITIATED.

AND ALSO IF IT HAD A BASE YEAR AND HOW MANY OPTION YEARS THAT CAME ALONG WITH IT.

OKAY.

BY LOOKING AT THAT AND LOOKING AT FREDERICK, I SEE THE WAY I INTERPRET WHAT I SEE AND I HAVEN'T BEEN DONE THIS FOR A WHILE, SO I COULD BE, YOU KNOW, NOT TOTALLY ON BOARD WITH NEW RULES.

UM, I SEE THAT OPTION, UH, THE CONTRACT OPTION YEAR ONE SHOULD HAVE EXPIRED IN JANUARY, 2022.

BUT I SEE THAT HERE WE ARE IN JUNE, IT'S EXTENDING THE POP TO THE, YOU KNOW, UH, JUNE OF, OF, OF NEXT YEAR.

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AND THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER CONTRACTS LIKE THIS.

YES.

AND SO BACK IN MY DAY, YOU KNOW, UH, WHEN A CONTRACT EXPIRES, YOU KNOW, YOUR POT DATE HAS BEEN, UM, UH, HAS ACHIEVED, WE'VE ACHIEVED THE PLP DATE TO GO BACK INTO ADMIN.

A CONTRACT IS, IS YOU SHOULD BE ISSUING A BRAND NEW CONTRACT BECAUSE THE POP EXPIRED.

NOW, IF THE POP, IF WE ARE IN MENDING TO EXTEND A POP, WHEN THE, WHEN THE CONTRACT IS STILL VALID, THEN THAT'S ACCEPTABLE.

BUT ONCE YOU, ONCE THAT POP END DATE COMES, THEN THAT CONTRACT'S DEAD.

SO, YOU KNOW, I SEE THAT HERE WITH, UM, ANDREA, I SEE THAT HERE WITH LAND AND PLANNING DESIGNS AND RACY, IN FACT, RACY, WE HAD IN THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU WERE WAIVING THE 60 DAY WAIVER.

SO THIS IS JUST A QUESTION ON MY PART IS HOW IS THAT GOOD CONTRACT LAW, A GOOD CONTRACT PLANNING AND POLICY? IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PREFERRED, BUT WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT THE CONTRACTORS ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THEM TO FINISH UP THESE PARTICULAR CONTRACTS.

AND THEY CAN ONLY WORK ON THESE PARTICULAR CONTRACTS.

SO WE SHOULD HAVE RENEWED THEM IN JANUARY, BUT WE ARE NOW RENEWING THEM.

SO THEY COULD ONLY FINISH THESE PARTICULAR PROJECTS FOR US.

OTHERWISE WE WOULD BE NOT HAVING A CONTRACTOR TO PERFORM THESE SERVICES FOR US.

SO WHAT KIND OF, UM, CHECKS AND BALANCES WE HAVE IN PLACE? SO THIS WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

I MEAN, WHEN, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, I'M LOOKING AT LIKE LAND AND PLANNING AND THE POP DATE ENDED JANUARY OF 22.

AND HERE WE ARE IN JUNE OF 22 ASKING TO EXTEND THE POP TO NOVEMBER 23.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, AND THAT WAS THE BASED ON AT ONE BASE AND FOUR OPTION YEARS, BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL, UH, FOR LANA PLANNING WITH THE START DATE WAS IN 2017 AND THE CONTRACT SAID ONE BASE, FOUR OPTIONS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, UM, I UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE IN GROWING PAINS AND, AND TRYING TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND, UM, UH, HOW WE CAN DO BUSINESS MORE EFFICIENTLY.

BUT, UM, I JUST HOPE THAT WE ARE HAVING THE PROPER PROCEDURES AND POLICIES IN PLACE THAT WE CAN BE WATCHING THESE CONTRACTS GOING FORWARD.

YES, DEFINITELY.

I AGREE.

SO I, AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.

I'M NOT REAL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS JUST BECAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, IF I'M INCORRECT, PLEASE, YOU KNOW, PLEASE CHIME IN YOU'RE YOU ARE CORRECT.

AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS TO FIND ALL THESE CONTRACTS, WHICH NEED TO BE RENEWED AND SET THEM ALL ON THREE YEAR CYCLES.

SO THAT THERE'S A MAXIMUM, AND A, AN EXAMPLE OF THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT EXPIRED IN JANUARY, UH, THAT WAS SIX WEEKS AFTER MRS. SCOTT STARTED AND STARTED PUTTING ALL THESE TOGETHER.

AND THERE WERE A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS SHE NEEDED TO BE LOOKING AT BACK THERE.

SO WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT WE'VE GOT A LONG WAYS TO GO.

AND WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.

SO IN APPROVING THESE HANDFUL OF CONTRACTS, I MEAN, IS THERE ANY LIABILITY ON OUR PART OF HOW, LET ME PUT IT THIS, HOW WE'RE FIXING THESE THINGS, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU NEED TO KEEP THE VENDORS GOING, AND WE GOT PROJECTS XYZ, BUT I'M GOING BACK ON ACQUISITION LAW.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, NO, YOU, YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THIS.

AND THEN I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT ABOUT WANTING TO CONTROL COSTS, BUT YOU KNOW, IN A WORLD WHERE THERE'S 8% INFLATION AND THEN IN THIS PARTICULAR YEAR, I'M PROBABLY BETTER OFF WITH THE PEOPLE YOU'VE ALREADY GOT.

BUT, UM, NO, YOU, YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY EXTEND THESE CONTRACTS, EVEN THOUGH A CONTRACT POP HAS EXPIRED.

WHAT'S THE PERIOD OF PERFORMANCE WHEN YOU CAN.

I MEAN, IT'S ESSENTIALLY, IT'S A NEW WITHOUT ESSENTIALLY A NEW CONTRACT SOLUTELY BUT SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS AMENDING THE CONTRACT.

WE'RE NOT INITIATING A NEW CONTRACT.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF THESE RESOLUTIONS AS I READ THEM, CORRECT.

WE'RE AMENDING THE CONTENT.

WE ARE NOT CREATING A NEW CONTRACT.

WELL, THOSE ARE TWO WAYS TO SAY THE SAME THING.

IF YOU AMEND A CONTRACT, IT'S A NEW CONTRACT.

SO I DON'T REALLY WANT TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION

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WOULD BE TH THAT'S A DISCUSSION WE CAN HAVE OFFLINE, BUT IN ANY EVENT.

SO, UM, UH, I JUST WANTED TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF ALL OF THIS THAT'S THAT'S ALL.

SO LET ME SEE, WE GOT THAT.

CAUSE WE KNEW ABOUT THE 8% INCREASE IN COSTS.

I COULD SEE WITH RACI, WE COVERED OURSELVES WITH THE 60 DAY WAIVER FOR THE POP.

AND, UM, AND SO THAT'S BASICALLY ALL, I REALLY, I HAVE A LOT OF OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK WITH THE GENERAL QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED, KIND OF COVERED MOST OF MY CONCERNS.

SO, SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE WITH, UM, WITH THIS CONTRACT DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

ITEM 10 OR NINE.

SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO EAT ME? OH, SORRY.

ARE WE GOING TO MOVE? SO, SO MY UNDERSTANDING BASED, AND I APPRECIATE MRS. KOCH'S EXPERTISE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT EXPERTISE.

AND SO, UM, I APPRECIATE IT, BUT I AM READING THAT THIS, THAT, FOR INSTANCE, MR. ANDREA'S CONTRACT EXTEND THE EXTENDING CONTRACT, LIMITS HIM TO THE CURRENT PROJECTS THAT ARE IN PROCESS.

THERE WILL BE NO NEW PROJECTS WITHOUT A NEW CONTRACT.

ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S WHAT THE, THE RESOLUTION DOES SAY THAT, THAT, THAT AFTER THE, THE EXTENSION I THINK WAS THROUGH NOVEMBER, RIGHT.

AND THERE WAS NO FINE PRINT IN THEIR SITE OR WHICHEVER COMES FIRST OR ANYTHING, THEY'RE JUST SAYING NOVEMBER, THIS IS IT.

AND WE MOVE ON.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THEN WITH THAT, I'M COMFORTABLE THAT YOU'VE REVIEWED THAT.

AND THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE JUST EXTENDING IT LIMITED TO THE CLIENT TRA OR THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN PROCESS, AND THAT WE WILL HAVE TO GO TO COMPETITIVE BID IF WE WANT TO RE UH, SEEK THE SERVICES, THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES OF ANOTHER ARCHITECT IN THE FUTURE.

CORRECT.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT MRS. LOGAN HAS BEEN SHEPHERDING ALONG THAT HAD BEEN LANE FLOATING AROUND FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THESE IN PART IS TO DRIVE THEM TO COMPLETION.

AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S A TERM LIMIT WITH THIS AND PROJECT SPECIFIC.

AND WHEN THEY'RE DONE WITH THE PROJECT, THEN WE'RE DONE AND IT'S A NEW BID.

AND WHAT, ONE OTHER QUESTION, SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE.

UM, BUT CAN YOU GO IN AT, AT THE FREDERICK ARCHITECTS, UH, WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF PROJECTS THAT ARE ONGOING.

SO WE HAVE THE SALLY PORT PROJECT.

WE HAVE THE NEW STAFF BUILDING, UM, AT THE BETTONVILLE LANDFILL SENIOR CENTER PROJECT, EDA THE NEW EDA OFFICE, ROCKLAND RESTROOMS AND NEW VOTING ROOM.

IS IT ANY WAY THAT WE CAN BREAK THOSE PROJECTS, SEPARATE THOSE PROJECTS AND ASSIGN A COST ESTIMATE TO THEM? IS THAT TOO MUCH? DO WE HAVE THE DATA TO DO THAT? YES, WE, UM, MRS. LOGAN AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER ON, UH, ESTIMATES FOR THESE PARTICULAR PROJECT COSTS.

SO ONCE WE HAVE SOMETHING TO GIVE YOU, I WILL PUT THAT INTO THE CONTRACT MODIFICATION, THE MASTER CONTRACT SPREADSHEET, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE ESTIMATES FOR THE PROJECTS AND THEN EXPENDITURES TO DATE FOR THEM AS WELL.

OKAY.

WITH ATLANTA.

VERY GOOD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SO ARE WE GOING TO, HOW ARE WE GOING TO TREAT THIS TODAY THEN? ARE WE GOING TO, WELL, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK.

IF WE READY FOR, DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE THESE OR DO YOU WANT TO TABLE THEM AND WE'LL GET YOU THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IN EITHER CASE IT'S NOT GONNA WE'LL, WE'LL PROVIDE YOU SOMETHING THAT SHOWS YOU WHAT THE ESTIMATE IS AND WHERE THE BUDGET LINE ITEM IS FOR EACH ONE.

SO, AND IS THERE A TIME LIMIT TO, IS THERE ANY BASIC TIME LIMIT THAT SAYS YOU GOT TO DO IT RIGHT THIS MINUTE? OR HAVE WE GOT SEVERAL WEEKS TO PLAN IT AND GET SOME MORE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION? I CAN GET YOU WHAT I HAVE AND THE PROPOSALS THAT WE HAVE COST ESTIMATES ON.

NOW I CAN GET THAT TO YOU WITHIN THE WEEK.

UH, ANYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS TO COMPLETE, LIKE THE NOVEMBER 20, 23? I'M NOT SURE WHEN WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE ESTIMATES, BUT I WILL GET THEM TO YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, OR I WILL GET YOU AN UPDATE ON THOSE PROJECTS THAT YOU'VE GOT AN ANTICIPATED COST ON IT.

I HAVE TO CHECK WITH MRS. LOGAN ON THAT.

I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHICH SHE HAS ESTIMATES ON IT, WHICH SHE DOES NOT HAVE ESTIMATES.

UM, THE SCOPE, IF YOU REMEMBER A LITTLE BIT OF THE, UH, PARTICULARLY THE ROCKLAND PARK PROJECT CHANGED DRAMATICALLY BECAUSE, UH, THE GREAT WHITE FATHERS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN

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SAID, WE HAVE MORE MONEY THAN WE KNOW WHAT TO DO.

WE'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU SOME MORE.

AND THAT GREATLY EXPANDED WHAT WE WERE DOING.

AND WE HAD THIS LITTLE PROJECT AND NOW WE HAVE THIS BIG PROJECT THAT IS IT'S FEDERAL MONEY, AND IT'S SITTING THERE AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT.

BUT THAT MEANS WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MORE FOR OUR ENGINEERS AND OUR ARCHITECTS AND OUR CONTRACTORS AND EVERYBODY ELSE TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT WITH THE FEDERAL MONEY IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES.

SO THAT CHANGES THE SCOPE OUT THERE.

WE, UH, THE GUIDELINE SAID ONE NUMBER AND THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, WELL, WE HAVE MORE MONEY THAN WE HAVE IN OUR GUIDELINES.

SO WE'LL GIVE YOU MORE MONEY.

IT'S LIKE A GIFT.

WELL, I APPRECIATE GIFTS, BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD KNOW, WE WANT TO DO A, WE'LL DO IT PROPERLY.

IT'LL BE LEGALLY.

IT'S GOING TO BE MONITORED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND ALSO BY THE BOARD.

SO, UH, IT'S ALL GOING TO BE DONE CORRECTLY, BUT IT'S GOING TO GREATLY EXPAND THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD DO IN FIVE OR 10 YEARS CAN BE DONE IN TWO YEARS AND THEY'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT.

BUT I STILL THINK THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE GIVING US MONEY AND WE HAVEN'T GOT TO BRING IT IN FROM 10 YEARS DOWN TO TWO, I STILL BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ANTICIPATE WHAT A COST WOULD BE AS WE EXPAND IT.

WE ARE, BUT WE HAD THIS IN PHASES AND YOU, THE BOARD HAD ONE NUMBER FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT, THE WHOLE 15 YEAR PROJECT OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, ROCKLAND, PARK'S A BIG PROJECT AND IT WAS MULTI WAS OVER A DECADE.

AND NOW WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PULL A WHOLE BUNCH OF IT CLOSER TOGETHER.

AND SO WE WILL HAVE A WHOLE PROJECT BUDGET WHEN THE GRANT COMES FORTH.

AND WE PRESENT TO THE BOARD TO SAY, WE HAVE A PROJECT, THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE ARE PROPOSING WITH THIS GRANT.

AND IT HAS A BREAKDOWN IN THERE.

IT SAYS, IT'S GOING TO COST THIS MUCH FOR THIS, THIS MUCH, FOR THAT AND SO FORTH.

AND YOU HAVE ALL THAT IN THE PROJECT BUDGET, BUT THE WHOLE SCOPE HASN'T BEEN DEFINED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT YET.

AND SINCE THEY HAVE THE GOAL, THEY MAKE THE RULES.

SO I'M BACK TO MY QUESTION.

DO YOU WANT TO TABLE THIS OR DO YOU WELL, SEE, THE ONES THAT I DO WANT TO TABLE IS, UH, ONE EIGHT D FREDERICK, UM, ONE EIGHT H LAND PLANNING AND DESIGN, AND ONE EIGHT, I RACI ENGINEERING.

AND THE REASON WHY I'D LIKE TO TABLE THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDING THE CONTRACT, WHEN THE POP OF THAT CONTRACT HAS BEEN EXPIRED.

I JUST WANT TO TALK TO JASON, YOU KNOW, AND CAITLIN, AND JUST HAVE A LITTLE DISCUSSION ON THAT BEFORE.

UM, I, I, I APPROVE OR WE CAN GO AND, UM, AND TAKE A VOTE AND I'LL JUST SAY NO.

SO HOWEVER YOU WANT, UM, EIGHT D H G H I.

AND THAT'S IT? THIS FLOOR? NO THREE.

OKAY.

NOW.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THIS IS THREE.

NO, GEE.

I THOUGHT SHE SAID, OH, I MAY HAVE NO, AS IN DOG H I GOT H AND I, OKAY.

SO YOU COULD AMEND THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL, DELETING THOSE THREE, TABLING THOSE THREE, OR DELETING THEM SIMPLY.

SO DO YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR EAR RIGHT? THE MOTION.

OKAY.

UH, LET'S SEE.

SO I'M GOING TO MOVE OF ACCEPTING.

I ATE A THROUGH C OR I CAN JUST SAY ALL OF THEM, EXCEPT FOR OKAY.

THAT'S EVEN BETTER.

OKAY.

EXCEPT, UM, ALL OF ITEM.

I'S EIGHT, EXCEPT FOR D H AND I, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND ROW, MRS. ROCKING, MR. BUTLER, MRS. OATES.

HI, MADAM CHAIR.

I MRS. COOK.

HI, MR. MABE.

OKAY.

THAT TAKES CARE OF NUMBER EIGHT, NUMBER NINE.

[I.9. Purchase of Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA) Replacement Equipment from ESA Lane Fire Loss Funds – Chief James Bonzano/Alisa Scott]

OKAY.

NUMBER NINE.

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OKAY.

THAT'S THE PURCHASE OF THE SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS.

SO I JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

CAUSE I GOT A LITTLE CONFUSED.

OKAY.

SO IT SAYS THAT, UH, YOUR SEEK TO PURCHASE THE S CBA, UM, WHICH THE EQUIPMENT WAS DESTROYED IN THE, UH, OF THE FIRE AND THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT 88 TO APPROVING 88,000.

OKAY.

SO WHAT I GOT CONFUSED OF WHAT THIS ONE WAS UNDER THE COST OF FINANCING THAT THE FIRE AND RESCUES RECEIVE INSURANCE FUNDS FROM VA CORP FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE CONTENTS THAT WE LOST, UM, IN THE FIRE.

AND THEN IT SAID THE FUNDS WERE DISTRIBUTED TO MULTIPLE LINE ITEMS THROUGH THE FIRE AND RESCUE BUDGET FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE LOST AND THEN SAYS, NO FUNDS ARE REQUESTED TO COMPLETE THIS REQUEST, BUT THEN WE'RE ASKING FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME FUNDING TO, TO BUY THE EQUIPMENT.

SO MY QUESTION IS, IS IT, ARE WE PURCHASING WHAT WAS ABOVE A BOND REQUESTING FOR EQUIPMENT ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT'S BEING REPLACED BY THE FIRE? OR ARE WE SUPPLEMENTING WHAT WE GOT BACK FROM THE ASSURANCE CLAIM? I JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND.

YES MA'AM.

SO THE ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT WAS PURCHASED ON AN AFG GRANT.

THAT WAS A COST SHARING PROGRAM, 75% FEDERAL FUNDS, UH, 25% LOCAL MATCH.

UM, DURING THE FIRE AT THE ESA LANE TRAINING CENTER ON MARCH 9TH, UH, WE HAD, UH, VARIOUS EQUIPMENT STORED IN THE TRAILER.

UM, THE INSURANCE RELEASED FUNDS FOR ALL OF THE CONTENTS, UM, AND ANTICIPATION THAT WE WOULD, UH, BEGIN REPLACING THE CONTENTS WITH THE INSURANCE FUNDS.

WE TOOK THE INSURANCE MONEY AND WE DEPOSITED THAT BASICALLY INTO VARIOUS LINE ITEMS, UH, TO EXPEND THOSE FUNDS, TO BEGIN THE REPLACEMENT.

UM, WHAT WE DID NOT DO IS WE DID NOT PROJECT THE MARKET INCREASE OF SUBSTANTIAL MARKET INCREASE IN THAT WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS THE THREE HOTLINE ITEMS UTILIZED ARE WHERE THAT WE DEPOSITED THE INSURANCE FUNDS FOR THAT.

SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY NEW FUND ALLOCATION, UH, BUT FINANCES MOVING THE THREE LINES WHERE WE DISPERSE THE MONEY TOGETHER TO BE ABLE TO COVER THAT.

SO IT IS INDEED INSURANCE FUNDS.

IT'S JUST COMING OUT OF THREE DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS BECAUSE WE PUT MONEY INTO WHAT WE CALL AN SCBA LINE ITEM.

WE USE THOSE INSURANCE FUNDS TO CREATE A LINE ITEM FOR SOLELY THE SCBA PURCHASES.

UM, WE'D DEPOSITED 66,000, BUT AS YOU SEE, THE TOTAL OF THE SCBA IS NOW $88,000 WITH THE MARKET INCREASES.

UH, SO BY THE TIME THE FIRE HAPPENED UNTIL TODAY, WE'VE SEEN A $22,000 INCREASE IN GOODS.

SO OF COURSE, OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I, I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW IT WAS ALL COMING TOGETHER.

UM, THAT'S UH, THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAD WITH THIS ONE.

OKAY.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS THEN? YEAH, I MOVED AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS FOR $88,150 FROM ATLANTIC EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS.

ON BEHALF OF WARREN COUNTY, I'D FURTHER AUTHORIZED THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS SIGNED A PURCHASE ORDER TO OLIN ATLANTIC EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS FOR THE ACQUISITION OF THE SCBA EQUIPMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $88,150.

IS THERE A SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MR. MABE, MRS. COOK.

I MADAM CHAIR.

I MRS. OATES, MR. BUTLER.

OKAY.

ITEM

[I.10. Purchase of Emergency Medical Services (EMS) Treatments and Support Equipment – Chief James Bonzano/Alisa Scott]

10.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

THIS IS THE AUTHORIZED TO PURCHASE EMS TREATMENTS, HIS SUPPORT, UM, IN READING THE EXPLANATION AND THE, I JUST NEED TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING WHAT, AGAIN, WHAT IS HAPPENING.

OKAY.

SO IN THE SECOND PARAGRAPH, IT SAYS THE PROJECTED COMPLETION OF THE PARAMEDIC PROGRAM AND DEPARTMENT FOR SEES THE NEED TO PRICE SUCH EQUIPMENT, UH, FOR, UH, FOR ALL STAFF UNITS.

AND THEN IT SAYS, ADDITIONALLY, VOLUNTEERED DEPENDENT UNITS FOR SMELT.

THEN SHANIDAR SHORES WILL

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ALSO BE PROVIDED THIS EQUIPMENT DUE TO THE STAFF LEVEL STAFFING LEVELS.

AND THE EQUIPMENT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO CHESTER GAP, UH, THUS PROVIDING LIFE SAVINGS EQUIPMENT AVAILABLE AND STANDARDIZED ACROSS THE EMS, UH, EMS RESPONSE FLEET UNDERSTAND STANDARDIZATION.

SO WHEN THIS, THIS EQUIPMENT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO CHESTER GAP, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? ARE WE GOING TO BE GIVING THEM SOME OF THIS EQUIPMENT? OKAY.

YES.

MA'AM.

SO CHESTER GAP CURRENTLY HAS A GRANT FOR SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE PURCHASING.

UM, IF CHESTER, GAP'S NOT SUCCESSFUL IN OBTAINING THAT GRANT, UH, WE'LL PROVIDE THAT EQUIPMENT TO THEM NO MORE, NO LESS THAN WE CURRENTLY PROVIDE EQUIPMENT FOR THEIR EMS VEHICLES, UH, TO BRING THEM UP TO A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE STANDARD.

SO, OKAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, CHESTER GAP IT'S IN RAPPAHANNOCK COUNTY, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW WE, WE HAVE A PROGRAM WITH THEM, UM, WHERE WE HELP PROVIDE RESOURCES FOR THEIR HELP AND HELPING US, YOU KNOW? UM, SO THIS IS JUST PART OF THAT PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED AN URBAN AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH CHESTER GAP THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WILL HELP PAY FOR SOME OF THIS EQUIPMENT.

YES MA'AM.

SO THE, THE EQUIPMENT WILL BE PROPERTY OF WARREN COUNTY, FIRE AND RESCUE.

UH, BUT WE WILL, INSTEAD OF IT SITTING IN A CABINET AS RESERVE, IT'LL BE PLACED ON CHESTER GAP'S UNIT WHILE THEY GEOGRAPHICALLY LIE IN WARREN COUNTY, THEY DO SERVE A, UH, RESPONSE AREA IN OUR, THE PRIMARY RESPONDERS FOR WARREN COUNTY CITIZENS.

UH, SO ABSENT OF THEM BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT EQUIPMENT, WE OFFER THAT EQUIPMENT TO THEM.

UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING THAT PROGRAM WITH THEM.

UM, SO, UH, ABSENT THEM, HAVING THAT EQUIPMENT ON THEIR UNIT, THEY WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON ONE OF OUR UNITS RESPONDING THE EQUIPMENT COMING OFF OF OUR UNIT AND GOING ON TO THEIRS.

YEAH.

I THINK WHAT PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE IS THAT WE INTERCHANGE AND HEAVEN ALL THE UNITS STANDARDIZED.

IF I PULL UP TO A SCENE IN MY PERSONAL CAR AND I'M THERE AND I SAY, I CAN HELP.

AND I'M A MEMBER OF COMPANY, ONE COMPANY EIGHT, WHATEVER THAT BOX IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE ENTIRE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT IS, HOW TO GET IT.

AND THEY, AND THEY INTERCHANGE.

IF CHESTER GAP GETS THERE FIRST, THEY DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER.

THEN I CAN GET IN, HELP THEM.

WE CAN TAKE THE PERSON.

AND THERE'S, IF THINGS AREN'T STANDARDIZED, THEN YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR ANOTHER VEHICLE THAT MAY BE ON ANOTHER CALL AND NOT COME.

SO IT'S, IT'S JUST ONE HAND HELP.

AND THE OTHER.

SO THE, THE, THE OTHER EXAMPLE IS THE, THE CURRENT EMS UNIT STATIONED AT FORT SMITH AT STATION EIGHT, THEY DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A LUCAS DEVICE ASSIGNED TO THEIR UNIT BASED OFF OF COST.

UH, WHEN WE STARTED PURCHASING THOSE DEVICES, WE DID IT IN MULTIPLE PHASES AND THE FIRST FOUR WERE PLACED ON WHAT WE CALL STAFFED UNITS.

THAT'S THE STATIONS WITH 24 HOUR STAFFING.

UH, THEN WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE IT AS WE CONTINUED TO GROW, UH, RECOGNIZING THE NEED AND THE STAFFING LIMITATIONS OF FORT SMITH AND SHANANDOAH SHORES THAT LUCAS DEVICES, THE DEVICE THAT DOES THE MANUAL COMPRESSIONS OF CPR, UM, WITHOUT A HUMAN INTERVENTION.

SO IT'S A MACHINE THAT GETS STRAPPED TO THE CHEST THAT DOES THE CHEST COMPRESSIONS.

UH, SO RECOGNIZING THE STAFFING LIMITATIONS OF THOSE TWO STATIONS, IF THE FORT SMITH VOLUNTEERS ONLY HAVE TWO PEOPLE AND THEY DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A LUCAS DEVICE, YOU LOSE THE MANPOWER OF ONE PERSON PHYSICALLY DOING THE CHEST COMPRESSIONS IN A CPR RELATED EVENT.

SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING HERE IS TO TAKE OUR CURRENT END OF THE YEAR, RESERVES UNSPENT MONEY, AND BEING ABLE TO PURCHASE THIS EQUIPMENT TO ONE, BRING THOSE UNITS UP TO COMPLIANCE, UH, BRING THOSE UNITS UP TO A STANDARDIZED PROCEDURE AND PROVIDE THAT LIFE SAFE IN EQUIPMENT ON ALL THE UNITS RIGHT NOW, IF FORT SMITH'S EMS UNIT OR SHANANDOAH SHORES UNIT GETS ON THE SCENE, THAT DEVICE HAS TO COME OFF OF ANOTHER UNIT, OR IF THE PARAMEDIC ASSIGNED TO THAT UNIT, THEY HAVE TO GRAB THE ONE OFF OF THEIR VEHICLE BEFORE THEY GO INTO THE HOUSE.

THIS IS SHORES THAT ALL OF OUR UNITS HAVE THE STANDARDIZED EQUIPMENT ACROSS THE BREADTH OF THE ORGANIZATION.

THANK YOU.

AND, UM, THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED IN OR FUND TRANSFERS OF 20,000 FOR 84 60 FOR THE PURCHASE OF LUCAS AND MCGRATH, STANDARDIZED EMS, TRANSPORT VEHICLE EQUIPMENT,

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AND PREVENTATIVE SERVICE AGREEMENT FOR $67,484 AND 60 CENTS.

I FURTHER MOVED THE BOARD AUTHORIZED THE CHAIR AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, EITHER OF WHO MAY ACT TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OR THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY TO APPROVE THE LUCAS IMMIGRANT EQUIPMENT PER THE FIRM FIXED PRICE COOPERATIVE CONTRACT.

AND WITH NASPA ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? WOW.

ROCOM MRS. MR. BUTLER, MRS. OATES.

HI, MADAM CHAIR.

I MRS. COOK I MR. MABE, RIGHT.

I BELIEVE THAT FINISHES OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WE MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF THE FYI 20 20, 20 21.

YES, SIR.

JUST A SHORT BREAK.

NOW, IF EVERYONE WANTS TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK, PLEASE, WE WILL BE BACK AT 1120.

THERE WE GO.

OOH, REALLY LOUD NOW.

OKAY.

WE ARE APPROVAL OF FYI,

[J. Approval of FY 2020-2021 Audit – Matt Robertson]

20 20, 20 21 AUDIT MR. ROBERTSON.

THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING AT THE MEETING LAST MONTH WHILE IT IS REALLY WELL AT THE MEETING LAST MONTH, YOU HAD A PRESENTATION BY MR. LEPEN WITH ROBINSON FARMER AND COX, THE FIRM THAT COMPLETED THE AUDIT FOR THE COUNTY OF WARREN.

AT THAT TIME, WE WERE STILL BASICALLY DOTTING I'S AND CROSSING T'S.

WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING NOW COMPLETED.

THERE HAVE BEEN NO CHANGES TO THE FINAL FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OR THE AUDIT THAT YOU SAW LAST MONTH.

SO WE WERE ASKING THAT YOU ACTUALLY APPROVE THE 2120 TO 21, UH, AUDIT, UH, JUST TO CONFIRM FROM WHAT MICHAEL LUPTON HAD TALKED ABOUT LAST MONTH, THERE WAS AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $3.2 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE FROM LAST YEAR.

AND IT LEFT THE GENERAL FUND WITH $16.9 MILLION IN RESERVES, WHICH WASN'T INCREASED OVER THE LAST YEAR.

ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

AND THAT MEETS OUR THRESHOLD OF THE 15%.

SO WE'RE GOOD.

THERE WE ARE.

OKAY, MRS. COOK.

YEAH.

UM, THAT'S CUTE.

SO ON THE COVER SHEET HERE, WE HAVE A THREE OPTIONS, UH, FOR EMOTION, ONE SAYS APPROVE, AND THE OTHER ONE SAYS, EXCEPT, SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE OF ME APPROVING VERSUS ACCEPTING? I BELIEVE THAT IT'S PROBABLY A MISTAKE ON THE PART OF THE FINANCE DIRECTOR BY NOT DELETING WHAT WAS IN THE TEMPLATE YOU CAN APPROVE OR TO WE'LL DO THE EXACT SAME THING.

I WAS HOPING THERE WAS SOME KIND OF FORMAT, NOT AN ENGLISH GUY.

WHAT DO YOU WANT ME? I'VE WHEN I LOOK AT IT AND WANT TO GO, OH, I CAN ACCEPT IT.

OKAY.

ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST MY MISTAKE.

THANK YOU.

SO, UM, THE NEXT QUESTION THAT I HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAD THE, THE PRESENTATION OF THE AUDIT, THAT MAY BE ONLY CA UM, FINDING THAT THERE WAS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE BETTER INTERNAL CONTROLS FOR ACCOUNT TRANSFERS.

SO MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAVE WE COME UP WITH A CORRECTIVE ACTION ON HOW TO FIX THAT? AND, AND IF WE HAVE, WHEN DO WE THINK THAT WE BUILD THE IMPLEMENTED INTO OUR PROCESSES? YEAH, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON FROM THERE.

SO THERE WERE A MAJORITY OF THE MATERIAL WEAKNESSES THAT THE AUDITOR FOUND WAS IN THOSE KINDS OF FUND TRANSFERS AND KIND OF ACCOUNTING, BACKEND THINGS.

SO A LOT OF THAT, UH, TRAINING MY DEPARTMENT, TRAINING MYSELF, UM, ON THE CORRECT STANDARDS THAT WARREN COUNTY NEEDS TO IMPLEMENT.

PART OF THE ISSUE IS BECAUSE WE HAD A PERIOD WHERE THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAD BEEN STAFFED BY SEVERAL DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

THERE WASN'T REALLY A CONSISTENT PROCEDURES FOR HOW WE CLOSED THE END OF THE YEAR AND DO THE YEAR END FUND TRANSFERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I'M WORKING WITH OUR SPECIALIST, JOHN MONTOUR, FROM VML VACO TO DEVELOP BASICALLY A LIST OF, OKAY, WHENEVER YOU CLOSE THE YEAR, YOU DO XYZ.

AND THEN YOU GO STEP BY STEP BY STEP.

AND I'M ALSO WORKING WITH MR. LUPTON ON ALL THE THINGS THAT HE FOUND SO THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT THEM.

AND THIS YEAR, WHENEVER WE CLOSE THIS FISCAL YEAR, SO YOU SHOULD SEE A LOT OF THOSE THINGS DISAPPEAR JUST AS WE HAVE.

I'VE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH MR. LEPTIN THREE YEAR.

NOW THAT WAS A PROCESS IN ITSELF OF US KIND OF LEARNING EACH OTHER AND WHAT HE'S EXPECTING AND WHAT I'M EXPECTING.

I THINK AFTER GOING THROUGH ALL OF THAT, WE'RE GOING TO BASICALLY DEVELOP A PROCEDURE MANUAL, WHICH WILL HOPEFULLY BE PART OF THE FINANCE AUDIT COMMITTEE AND OUR POLICY PROCEDURES MANUAL THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING.

THAT'LL GO THROUGH HOW YOU CLOSE THE YEAR, HOW YOU GET BASICALLY ALL THE MONEY IN THE RIGHT POTS, IN THE RIGHT CODE, SO THAT WE CAN GO A LITTLE BIT MORE SMOOTHLY INTO FUTURE YEARS.

UM, AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE'VE ALSO IMPLEMENTED A LOT OF THINGS JUST RIGHT OFF THE BAT, HAVING A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN,

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PART OF THE DEFICIENCIES, WHERE WE DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS CORRECTLY, PUTTING THEM ALL IN ONE FUND IS A REALLY GOOD WAY TO HELP DO THAT.

UH, WE HAVE A DEBT MANAGEMENT FUND, WHICH WE'VE NEVER HAD OR NOT FUND, UM, MAJOR WITHIN OUR ACCOUNTING SYSTEM.

SO PREVIOUSLY WE HAD NOT HAD A PLACE WHERE ALL DEBT WENT INTO NOW, ALL DEBT GOES TO ONE PLACE, SO THAT IT'S EASILY IDENTIFIABLE.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE WEAKNESSES THAT HE FOUND AS WELL.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SOME INCREMENTAL UPGRADES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

AND THEN WITH THIS AUDIT, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK BACK ON EVERYTHING THAT WE BASICALLY WERE DEFICIENT IN LAST YEAR.

AND I'M GOING TO WORK WITH JOHN MONTOUR SPECIFICALLY ON FIXING IT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR AND THEN CREATING A PROCEDURE MANUAL SO THAT ANY FINANCE DIRECTOR AFTER ME WOULD HAVE A MANUAL BASICALLY OF, OKAY, YOU NEED TO DO THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, AND THEN YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE LIST.

IF I MAY ADD TO THAT, UH, MATT HAS HAD SAC BACK THERE IN THE CONTROL ROOM, SENDING OUT NOTICES TO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS SINCE EARLY MAY ON, YOU NEED TO MAKE THESE TRANSFERS TO BALANCE YOUR BUDGET BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR AND GET IT CLEANED UP SO THAT YOU HAVE A GOOD STARTING POINT.

AND THAT'S PART OF THIS PROCESS HE'S ALREADY IMPLEMENTED.

VERY GOOD.

LAST QUESTION.

SO, UH, THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HIT, WELL, THE AUDIT PRESENTATION, THERE WAS A COMMENTS AND A QUESTION THAT I ASKED ABOUT IF THE EDA, UM, DOLLARS WERE IN THE AUDIT AND THE QUESTION IT WAS SAID, NO.

AND THEN IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, IT SAYS THAT THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, AN EDA AUDIT HAS NOT BEEN PERFORMED OR INCLUDED IN THE WARREN COUNTY AUDIT REPORT.

ARE WE GOING TO BE SOON IMPLEMENTING THIS, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO AND THE GOAL.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH.

MR. LUPTON, SINCE OUR AUDIT IS NOW COMPLETE, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET IN CONTACT WITH THE PRIOR AUDIT FIRM THAT COMPLETED THE EDA AUDIT SO THAT THEY CAN BASICALLY SEND ALL THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS TO MR. LEPTIN'S OFFICE.

SO HE DOESN'T START FROM SCRATCH.

WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH THEIR LEGAL STAFF AS TO WHAT CAN BE SHARED.

AND AGAIN, KIND OF THE CROSSING I'S DOTTED T'S OR OTHER WAY AROUND, UM, NATURE OF IT.

SO THEY'RE BASICALLY GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE MR. LUPTON SHOULD WITHIN THIS MONTH TO NEXT MONTH, BE TRYING TO UPDATE THE EDA SO THAT THEY WILL BE ON OUR FISCAL YEAR AUDIT.

SO HE HAS TO, TO COMPLETE, TO GET US UP TO GRADE WHERE WE ARE SO THAT WHENEVER HE DOES OUR AUDIT FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WHICH WILL BE DONE BEFORE DECEMBER 31ST, THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THE EDA AND THE COUNTY AT THE SAME TIME, JUST AS A COOK.

SO, I MEAN, SO DID THE EDA PERFORM THESE AUDITS OR THEY DID NOT PERFORM THE AUDITS, SOME AUDITS.

SO PRIOR TO 2018, THE COUNT THE EDA HAD A SEPARATE AUDITOR WHO PERFORMED THE ANNUAL AUDITS AND THE BOOK, A STACK OF BOOKS THERE THAT WE HAVE FROM THE EDA.

THEY DID NOT PERFORM THE 2018 AUDIT AND STOPPED IN THE MIDDLE OF IT AND TOOK THE MONEY FOR IT.

UH, THAT'S ANOTHER, THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE AND THAT'S RESOLVED, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY DID.

UM, THE EDA THROUGH THE COUNTY HIRED BROWN EDWARDS TO DO FISCAL YEARS, 2018 AND 2019.

THOSE ARE DONE.

AND THAT'S THE LAST AUDIT REPORTS YOU HAVE FROM THE EDA.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 AND FISCAL YEAR 21.

AND THAT'S THE INFORMATION WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE INFORMATION FROM JUNE 30TH, 2019 TO OUR AUDITOR, SO THAT WE HAVE THE COMMON BASELINE TO THEN DO 20 AND 21.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE.

AND THEN IN 20 AND BRING THEM UP THROUGH 22 RATHER.

AND THEN WHEN THEY'RE UP THROUGH 22, THEN THERE'LL BE IN THE SAME AUDIT AS EVERYBODY ELSE WHO HAS THE INFORMATION, RON EDWARD, SIR.

OKAY.

AND THEY ARE, THEY ARE TECHNICALLY EMPLOYED, WERE TECHNICALLY EMPLOYED BY THE EDA COUNTY, PAID FOR IT, BUT THE DA WAS THE CONTRACT.

SO IN A NUTSHELL, THEY'VE STILL GOT TWO YEARS.

SO WE'RE, THEY'VE GOT THIS CONTRACT AND THEY'RE HAVING THIS LEGALEES THING WITH ALL THE AUDITORS ABOUT WHO'S ALLOWED TO SHARE WHAT AUDITING INFORMATION AND WORKPAPERS WITH, WHAT OTHER AUDITS? WELL, ISN'T THAT PUBLIC INFORMATION ANYWAYS, IT'S EDA PROPERTY.

SO THE EDA CAN REQUEST IT AND THE EDA

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CAN DEMAND IT IT'S THEIR PROPERTY.

IT IS NOT THE COUNTY'S PROPERTY.

SO THE COUNTY'S AUDITOR CAN'T REQUEST IT BY ITSELF.

WE CAN ASK FOR IT.

BUT THEN WE GO THROUGH THIS LEGAL JARGON, IT'S GOT TO COME FROM THE EDA ITSELF.

SO JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS.

SO, UH, FISCAL YEAR 20 AND 21 EDA AUDIT, WAS IT CONDUCTED? OH, IT WAS NOT.

WE DID NOT.

SO THEY'RE TWO YEARS BEHIND, TWO YEARS BEHIND.

THEY WERE FOUR YEARS BEHIND, BUT NOW THEY'RE TWO YEARS AND THOSE TWO YEARS THE RECORDS ARE HERE.

GOT IT.

SO WHAT THAT PART IS EASY, THE DIFFICULT PART IS THE BASELINE.

SO IS IT, IT ISN'T THERE A REGULATION OR A POLICY OR SOMETHING SAYING THAT THEY SHOULD BE PERFORMING AUDITS ONCE A YEAR? THE VA EDA? YES.

MA'AM.

SO THEY'RE DELINQUENT.

THEY ARE DOING QUIET.

YES.

WITH ANY EXPLANATION WHY? WELL, THEY DID 18 AND 19 FIRST, AND THEN IT WAS THOUGHT AND INCLUDED THAT SINCE THE RECORDS WERE AT THE COUNTY, THAT BEGINNING WITH 20, AS SOON AS THEY HAD THE BASELINE, THE COUNTY WOULD BE ABLE TO PICK UP.

OKAY.

BECAUSE IT'S THE, COUNTY'S GOT THE RECORDS, ALL THE MONEY CAME HERE AND ALL THE MONEY WAS SPENT HERE.

AND SO WE COMMON THE EDA AND YOURS TRULY THOUGHT, THEREFORE IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE COUNTY'S AUDITOR.

WHAT WE HADN'T ANTICIPATED WAS THE PROBLEM OF THE TRANSFER OF THE BASELINE DATA.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION.

UM, AND THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE ONE DR.

DALEY.

I THOUGHT THAT WE GOT A SEPARATE AUDITOR FOR THE EDA BECAUSE IT MADE, IT WAS, IT WAS GOOD TO DECENTRALIZE THE AUDIT TO HAVE TWO SEPARATE AUDITS GOING ON ONE FOR THE COUNTY AND ONE FOR THE EDA BECAUSE OF THE EDA CIRCUMSTANCES.

IS THAT NOT THE POLICY OR THE PROCEDURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW MOVING FORWARD? WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE A SEPARATE COMPONENT.

LIKE THE SCHOOL BOARD IS A SEPARATE COMPONENT OF YOUR AUDIT.

THE WAS DONE ORIGINALLY.

WHAT BROWN EDWARDS DID WAS BECAUSE THEY HAD SEPARATE BOOKS.

OKAY.

WE KNOW A COUPLE SETS OF SEPARATE BOOKS.

UH, BUT SINCE ALL OF IT IS HERE, NOW IT CAN BE AUDITED AT THE SAME TIME, BUT IT'LL BE A SEPARATE ACCOUNT.

LIKE YOUR SANITARY DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SEPARATE ACCOUNTING FOR EACH SANITARY DISTRICT, THE AIRPORT COMMISSION, YOUR COST RECOVERY MONEY AT EMS, UH, AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

THOSE ARE ALL SEPARATE COMPONENTS, BUT THEY'RE ALL PART OF YOU'LL HAVE THEM ALL IN ONE BOOK.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFICATION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION? YES.

I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO APPROVE AND ACCEPT THE FISCAL YEAR 20, 20 AND 2021 AUDIT AS PRESENTED.

SORRY.

WROTE HOME.

MRS. SHIRAKI MR. MABE, MRS. COOK.

I MADAM CHAIR.

I MRS. OATES.

HI, MR. BUTLER.

OKAY.

REQUEST APPROVAL

[K. Request – Approval of Prioritization Plan for the Hardsurfacing of Secondary County Roads through the Virginia Department of Transportation – Mike Berry]

OF PRIVATIZATION PLAN FOR THE ARTS SURFACING, THE SECONDARY COUNTY ROADS THROUGH THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

MR. BARRY AND MR. PAULO FELL.

MR. , MADAM CHAIR BOARD.

UM, THIS ONE SHOULD BE RELATIVELY EASY.

I THINK, UM, I HAVE MADE, UH, A COUPLE OF MINOR ADJUSTMENTS.

I'M GOING STRAIGHT TO THE BUNCH HERE WHERE, UM, SO YOU ARE SETTING THE EXPECTATION.

HEY, WE ADDED SCHOOL BUS, POTENTIAL TRAVEL.

WE ADDED CONNECTIVITY, CHANGED THE WORD AND THE WRITTEN LANGUAGE AND ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE ME TO DO.

I CAN JUMP IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO, BUT I THINK WE'RE JUST WE'RE HERE.

I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

I THINK I'VE, I THINK I HAVE INCORPORATED EVERYTHING YOU'VE ASKED ME FOR.

UM, WE'VE BEEN KIND OF GOING OVER THIS FOR THE LAST YEAR OR SO, AND, UM, TWO YEARS.

UM, BUT, UM, YEAH, I'M HAPPY

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TO DO ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE HERE.

I THINK WE'RE CLOSE.

I, I THINK THAT THIS IS REALLY TIED TO OUR WORK SESSION.

UM, UH, REALLY, I BELIEVE WE COULD PROBABLY WRAP IT ALL UP AT ONE TIME.

UM, TRULY I THINK THE BIGGEST THING WE'RE LOOKING AT IS MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN GET A LIST OF ROADS THAT WE, WE AS A BOARD AND A FEEL IS, UM, THE, THE RIGHT LIST OF STATE ROADS TO GO AFTER.

AND I, MRS. COOK SENT ME A COUPLE.

UM, I, I BELIEVE I DO BELIEVE OUR, OUR CURRENT SIX-YEAR PLAN HAS, I THINK BOTH OF YOUR ROADS IN THE PLAN ALREADY.

UM, AND, UM, AND, AND MS. COLORS, I KNOW YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING THE LISTING OF ROADS.

SO I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE YOU AND, AND, AND HAVE A LIST THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY THE END OF THE DAY, THIS WORKS IN COORDINATION WITH OUR SIX YEAR PLAN AND, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE COUNTY WORKING TOGETHER WITH V THAT TO SPEND THE MONIES THAT THE CTB LOTS, UM, FROM THE STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING.

SO THIS IS REALLY, I THINK, MORE OF A GUIDANCE DOCUMENT.

UM, AND, AND THIS IS JUST, UH, A SYSTEM THAT WE CAN GO OUT AND EVALUATE THOSE ROADS THAT EITHER YOURSELVES, OR IF YOU POINT A COMMITTEE THAT, UH, TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO CALL IT.

UM, UM, AND I, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING.

UM, AGAIN, WHATEVER, WHATEVER DIRECTION YOU'D LIKE ME TO GO, UM, SAY, YAY.

AND WE, WE HAVE, UH, A EVALUATION SHEET AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU REALLY NEED TO CHANGE, THEN WE'LL, WE'LL KICK IT DOWN THE LINE AND FIX IT.

BUT EITHER WAY, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF LISTING, UM, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT'S ONE OF MRS. COLOR'S, UM, PRIMARY CONCERNS WITH THIS SIX YEAR PLAN, UM, WHICH IS WHY I'M, WHILE I'M STAYING HERE.

I MEAN, WE NEED TO MOVE SWIFTLY ON THAT AS WELL.

UM, BECAUSE WE SHOULD BE PREPARING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING WITH THAT ALSO.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE, UM, WORK SESSION AFTER THIS, TO GET THAT SOLID AND APPROVE THIS.

AND I KNOW I HAVE BEEN THE PAIN ON THIS, BUT MY OBJECTIVE WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BEING FAIR AND EQUITABLE ACROSS THE WHOLE COUNTY.

CAUSE THAT'S, LIKE I SAID, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, I HEARD THE MOST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT, BUT SINCE GETTING IN HERE, I DO UNDERSTAND IT NOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS TAXPAYERS' DOLLARS AND WE NEED TO DISTRIBUTE IT FAIRLY ACROSS, UM, YOU KNOW, EACH DISTRICT.

SO, UM, I'M GLAD WE MET AFTER, YOU KNOW, I SAT DOWN WITH YOU AND MIKE AND MICHAEL AND I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.

UM, SO I'M ON BOARD WITH IT.

FINALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO MRS. COLOR'S POINT IS THAT THIS ENSURES OUR CITIZENS, THAT THERE IS A OBJECTIVE WAY TO EVALUATE ROAD SYSTEMS SO THAT THERE'S NO PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT BEING GIVEN PER SOMEBODY'S DISTRICT OR THEIR RELATIONSHIP.

UM, AND THIS JUST IS ANOTHER STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR THIS COUNTY TO REPRESENT ALL PEOPLE.

AND SO I APPRECIATE BOTH OF WHAT YOU BOTH HAVE DONE TO WORK ON THIS BECAUSE IT, IT JUST ENSURES THAT THIS PROCESS IS OBJECTIVE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THEM TO MOVE OUT THE LINE.

IT'S AN EASY ONE.

I PROMISE.

SO, IN, IN THE, UH, THE INFORMATION HERE, IT SAYS THAT THE INFORMATION PERTAINING TO THE RATING SYSTEM APPLICATION SHALL BE MAINTAINED IN THE WARREN COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

WHY IS IT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT RATHER THAN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT? WELL, VIEWER I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS YOU WERE HAVING EARLIER.

AND, UM, I DO THINK THAT'S, UH, UH, A MAJOR, UM, WELL, REALLY A GOOD POINT IN MS. COLOR'S BROUGHT THAT POINT UP TOO, AS WELL AS WE TALKED ABOUT THE TYPE OF ROADS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON WITH THE UNPAVED ROADS AND STATE ROADS.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO KNOW IF, IF YOU HAVE A ROAD ON THE LISTING AND THEY DECIDE, HEY, WE WANT TO PUT, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WINERY OR A CARNIVAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THERE.

UM, OR IF THERE'S 10 SHORT TERM RENTALS THERE, YOU WANT, YOU WANT TO KNOW THOSE FACTS AND, AND WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO I DO BELIEVE THAT THE PLANNING SIDE IS WHERE IT SHOULD START, UM, BECAUSE ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO COME TOGETHER.

AND IF WE DON'T HAVE IT THERE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT DOESN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION, IT JUST WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE.

SO WE REALLY NEED TO COME TOGETHER, I THINK WILL BE A BIG PART OF THE EVALUATION, BUT IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, THE,

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THE, THE ROAD, ONCE WE GET THAT LIST IN PLACE, THAT NEEDS TO BE A PART OF THAT PLANNING AND THAT PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND WHEN YOU'RE GETTING READY FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTALS OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR PLAN.

THIS IS OUR FUTURE PLAN OUT AT THE, WHETHER IT'S OUT OF ROCKLIN PARK AND WE'VE GOT A FLY OVER AND A NEW GIANT PARK COME IN, AND THEN SOME OF THESE TINY BACK ROADS, RIGHT.

OKAY.

HERE'S THE ROAD RIGHT HERE.

AND YOU KNOW, WHY DO, WHY DO WE WANT IT IN THE PART? THAT'S WHY? NO, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

AND I, AND I DO FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH, BUT WE, THAT THERE SHOULD BE MORE INTEGRATION BETWEEN DIFFERENT INTERNAL DEPARTMENTS AS WELL OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

YOU KNOW? SO THIS IS A GOOD FIRST STEP FORWARD.

YEAH.

YES.

MA'AM DR.

DALEY.

YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.

NO, MA'AM, I'M ALL FOR IT.

OKAY.

YOUR EMOTION.

I MOVED THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IMPLEMENT THE HARD SERVICE IMPROVEMENT POLICY AND RATING SYSTEM AS PRESENTED.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND REAL CALM, MRS. SHREK, MR. BUTLER, MRS. OATES, MADAM CHAIR.

I MRS. COOK.

I MR. MABE, CONGRATULATIONS.

YOU'VE WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS.

WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD IF YOU CAN, HOPEFULLY WE GOT IT RIGHT AFTER ALL THIS TIME.

SO IT'S NO USE GOING BACK, REINVENTING THE WHEEL.

ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE UP TO

[N. Closed Session – Virginia Freedom of Information Act]

THE CLOSED SESSION.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

OKAY.

I WILL READ A, SEND A CLOSED.

THANK YOU.

LET ME PULL THIS UP.

I MOVED THE BOARD ENTER INTO A CLOSED MEETING UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION TWO DOT TWO DASH 3 7 1 1 A ONE OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT FOR THE DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ASSIGNMENT, APPOINTMENT, PROMOTION, PERFORMANCE, DEMOTION SALARIES, OR RESIGNATION OF A SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICER OF THE PUBLIC BODY.

SPECIFICALLY IN REGARD TO THE FRONT ROW WARREN COUNTY JOINT TOURISM BOARD AND THE WARREN COUNTY BUILDING OFFICIAL.

I ALSO MOVED THE BOARD ENTERED INTO A CLOSED MEETING UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION TWO DOT TWO DASH 3 7 1 1 8 8 FOR CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL FOR THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING THE SHANDO FARM SANITARY DISTRICT.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MR. MABE, MRS. COOK.

I MADAM CHAIR.

I MRS. OATES, MR. BUTLER.

ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE IN CLOSED SESSION.

AND WITH, ALRIGHTY, THIS IS OATS.

DO YOU WANT TO READ US OUT OF CLOSED SESSION? YES, ME I'M.

HOLD ON JUST ONE MOMENT AND LET ME FIND CLOSED SESSION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I MOVED THE BOARD CERTIFIES THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS, LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER SECTIONS TWO DOT TWO DASH 3 7 1 1 A ONE AND EIGHT OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVENED WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING BY THE PUBLIC BODY.

IS THERE A SECOND RURAL HOME? IS THIS ROCKY MR. BUTLER? MRS. OATES, MADAM CHAIR.

I MRS. COOK I, MR. MABE, IS THERE

[O. Additional New Business (If needed) ]

A MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA FOR THE ADDITION OF SOME NEW BUSINESS? YES.

MADAM CHAIR.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TWO ITEMS TODAY TO THE AGENDA.

UM, THE FIRST BEING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO INCLUDE AN APPOINTMENT TO THE, UM, JOINT TOURISM BOARD.

UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE CARRIE BARNHARDT FOR FOUR YEAR TERM, UH, BEGINNING ON JULY 1ST, 2022 TO JULY OR JUNE 30TH, 2026.

SO YOU WOULD WANT TO AMEND THE AGENDA AND TAKE THAT ACTION ALL IN ONE.

COULD WE DO A YES.

OKAY, GOOD.

OKAY.

UM, MOTION HAS BEEN MADE.

IS THERE A SECOND ROLL CALL, MRS. SHIRAKI MR. MABE, MRS. COOK.

I MADAM CHAIR.

I MRS. OATES.

HI, MR. BUTLER.

AND, UH, THE, THE SECOND, YEP.

CHAIR, MADAM CHAIR.

I'D LIKE TO, UM, AMEND THE AGENDA TO INCLUDE THE APPOINTMENT OF A COUNTY ATTORNEY.

AND, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO, UM, NOMINATE JASON HAM AS OUR PERMANENT COUNTY ATTORNEY AND GET RID OF THAT INTERIM.

AND THANK YOU.

THAT'S IT.

BUT IT'S, IT'S THE TWO FOR AGAIN.

I'M TRYING TO BE TIMELY AND EXPEDITIOUS.

YEAH.

A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND ROLL CALL VISIT.

SHIRAKI MR. BUTLER.

HI, MRS. OATES,

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MADAM CHAIR.

I MRS. COOK.

I MR. MABE, IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS? NO, MA'AM MAY WE? YUP.

I MOVED TO A GERM.

I WAS GOING TO SAY BEFORE WE DO THAT.

THANK YOU, MR. HAM FOR YOUR SERVICE TO US.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

AND GLAD TO TAKE THE INTERIM OUT THERE.

WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU ALL BEEN WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH.

YOU ALWAYS TREAT ME WELL AND LISTEN TO ME, WHICH I APPRECIATE.

SO I KNOW THAT YOU WERE GLAD TO GET RID OF THAT AND THEN ROOM THAT'S A REALLY BAD SECOND NIGHT.

YEAH.

IT MAY BE EVEN WORSE THAN THE HAM.

ALRIGHTY.

UM, IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

AND WE WILL MOVE RIGHT INTO OUR WORK SESSION.

ALL THAT A MEETING IS ADJOURNED WORK SESSIONS IN SESSION.

POOF, IT'S ONLY 1 35 FOLKS.

YOU GOT FOUR MINUTES.

OKAY.

THIS IS TO

[A. Discussion – Virginia Department of Transportation Secondary Six-Year Plan – Mike Berry/ Michael Coffelt]

WORK ON THE SIX YEAR ROAD PLAN.

AND WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY BROUGHT THE PRIOR STUFF, I'M TRYING TO FIND MINE.

I HAD SOME SEPARATE STUFF IN THE PACKAGE.

VERY, VERY BAD.

SO AT THE LAST MEETING WHERE VIDO CAME AND LAID THIS OUT TO US, THEY HAD, UM, SOME ROADS ALREADY, UM, PUT DOWN ON PAPER AND THE FUNDING DATES FOR THOSE.

AND THEN THEY HAD A COUPLE THAT I DON'T SEE WHERE THOSE EMPTY SLOTS ARE.

DID THEY NOT GIVE THAT TO YOU? I HAD THE SAME THING THAT YOU RECEIVED FROM THEM.

OKAY.

CAUSE THEY HAD A COUPLE OF YEARS OUT THAT DID NOT HAVE ANY FUNDING.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET ROADS IN THOSE, BECAUSE OTHERWISE I'M CONCERNED THAT THEY'LL SAY, GEE, MAYBE YOU DON'T NEED THAT MONEY.

WE'LL PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO, TO PUT SOME ROADS IN THERE.

AND I KNOW, I THOUGHT I HAD MY OLDER, OLDER, UM, YEP.

HERE IT IS FROM 2019 UP TO, AND THIS WAS FROM MAY OF 2019.

AND I THINK THAT WAS THE LAST TIME WE HAD AN ACTUAL V DOT SIX YEAR ROAD PLAN WHERE WE SIT DOWN AND EVERYBODY TALKED ABOUT EVERYTHING AND YEAH, I DON'T KNOW HOW COVID WIPED THAT OUT, BUT IT DID.

AND ON THERE THEY HAD SOME ROADS THAT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHY HE WOULDN'T HAVE PLUGGED THOSE INTO THOSE OTHER TWO YEARS, THAT WERE BLANK.

SO I LOOKED AT THOSE AND HOW THEY WERE PRIORITIZED TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN IDEA, UM, OF WHERE TO GO OFF OF THAT FROM THIS ORIGINAL, WELL, THE LAST SIX YEAR ROAD PLAN THAT TOOK US UP TO 24, 25, THIS MADAM CHAIR.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET A COPY OF THE LAST SIX YEAR ROUTE PLAN? BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT IN MY PACKET.

I HAVE THE LATEST SIX YEAR WORTH PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES ROAD NAME DESCRIPTION FROM TWO LEAF COST AND DATE.

AND IT'S DATED 21, 22 THROUGH 26, 27 7.

AND THIS IS THE SECONDARY CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM.

WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER DOCUMENT THAT IS RURAL RUSTIC.

SO WE HAVE TWO DOCUMENTS.

CORRECT.

AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS RURAL RUSTIC.

FUCK.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST ONE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN AS WELL.

UM THAT'S AND YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE WOOD THEY GAVE US WHAT MIKE JUST GAVE US PANHANDLE ROAD, PHASE TWO, RURAL RUSTIC.

UM, AND THEN UNDER THAT, THE, WELL, MAYBE THAT'S WHERE THE TWO BLANK

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TO BLANK ONES RIGHT THERE.

YEP.

OKAY.

SO IT'S WARREN COUNTY, RURAL RUSTIC ROADS PROJECT, UM, ITEM 1, 1 7 0 3 6, AND 1, 2, 1, 1 9 2.

THOSE ARE THE, SO WE HAVE TO CHOOSE RURAL RUSTIC ROADS.

YEP.

AND THE LIST FROM THE LAST TIME WE HAD, UM, THE MEETING WHERE V DOT SAID WHERE THEIR CONCERNS AND WHERE THEIR MAINTENANCE ISSUES AND STUFF.

I COMPILED THAT AND I PUT IT IN THE WATER THAT THEY SAID, AND IT KIND OF STRETCHES IT OUT.

SO NOT ONE, YOU KNOW, EACH DISTRICT GETS SOMETHING, THEIR MAIN ONE WAS WILLIAM VINCENT ROAD.

W WAIT A MINUTE, WILLIAM VINCE AT SIX, ROUTE 6 31 WILLIAM VINCENT.

AND THAT'S IN SOUTH RIVER.

NUMBER TWO WAS ROUTE SIX, 16 RICHARDSON ROAD.

AND I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THAT MIGHT BE YOURS OFF STRAUSBERG ROAD.

IT MAY BE DEPENDENCE ON IT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE.

IF IT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE, IT'S MOM, THEN THE NEXT ONE COORDINATE TO THEN WAS ROUTE SIX, 16 MESSICK ROAD, WHICH IS IN YOUR AREA MRS. COOK.

AND THEN THE NUMBER FOUR.

AND I'LL GIVE THESE TO YOU, MIKE, UM, WAS ROUTE 6, 26 CATLETT FORD, WHICH IS IN YOUR AREA.

DEFINITELY.

YEAH.

UM, AND THEN NUMBER FIVE WOULD HAVE BEEN ROUTE 6 26 STEVE LANE, WHICH IS FORT DISTRICT.

WHAT IS IT? STEVE? STEVE S T E D.

YES.

I KNOW WHERE THAT IS.

OKAY.

AND THEN NUMBER SIX WAS ROUTE 6 22 LANDS RUN AND THAT'S IN SOUTH RIVER.

AND I BELIEVE PROBABLY THE REASON THERE'S NONE IN YOURS IS BECAUSE MOST OF THEM HAVE BEEN DONE EXCEPT FOR YOUR SANITARY DISTRICT.

CORRECT.

AND THEN THAT'S, AND THEN THAT'S REVENUE SHARING, WHICH IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT FUNDING SYSTEM.

UH, WHAT ABOUT, WHAT ABOUT IN HAPPY CREEK? I THINK HAPPY CREEK IS PRETTY MUCH DONE EXCEPT THE OREGON HOLLOW.

AND THAT AGAIN, THAT'S GONNA BE, OOH, THAT ONE'S PROBABLY A SMART SCALE.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION SHARE WHAT, HOW SO GIVEN THE FRAMEWORK THAT WE VOTED ON EARLIER TO PLUG IN PRIORITIZATION, HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE THESE, THESE, OR HAVE OTHER PRIORITIZATIONS BASED ON THIS RURAL RUSTIC LIST, WE'LL PLUG THEM IN TO THE THAT'S.

WHAT WE'LL GIVE HIM NOW THAT WE, IF WE AGREE THAT USING WHAT V DOT SAID, AND THEN THEY CAN DO THEIR MAGIC WITH THEIR THING AND COME BACK AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN LOOK AT IT, DECIDE IF WE ALL AGREE ON WHAT YOU CAME UP WITH SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 28TH OF JUNE V DOT ONCE IT BY THE END OF JUNE OR ANOTHER NIGHT, IF THAT'S A FULL NIGHT.

SO THE THING THAT, UM, I SEE, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAD THESE ROADS EVALUATED AND THIS RATING SYSTEM DONE A LONG TIME AGO.

UM, THE THING TO REMEMBER WITH THIS SIX YEAR PLAN IS, UM, WE HE'S GIVEN US AN ESTIMATE FOR THE ALLOWANCE, WHICH HOPEFULLY THIS YEAR IS AS, AS CLOSE ONCE THE STATE IS FINISHED, BUT THERE'S AN ESTIMATED ALLOCATION FOR THE CONTINUATION.

AND WE WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL EACH YEAR.

SO EVERY YEAR WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK HERE.

SO I WAS TELLING ED BRIEFLY THIS MORNING WHEN WE WERE, WE WERE GETTING READY FOR THE MEETING OF THE, I BELIEVE IT WAS, UH, ORANGE COUNTY.

I PRINTED OUT UP, UM, A LITTLE COPY OF IT, WHAT THEY HAVE, LIKE THEY'LL ACTUALLY POST THEIR SECOND YEAR PLAN.

AND THEN THEY'LL CREATE AN AUXILIARY AUXILIARY LIST OF SECONDARY ROADS ESTABLISHED TO CREATE A PRIORITIZED LIST FOR THE FUTURE.

NOW YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, HOOK THIS TO YOUR PLAN.

I MEAN, THAT'S BETWEEN YOU AND V DOT, BUT WHEN YOU ESTABLISH AND THAT'S KINDA WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS OKAY, LET'S CREATE A WRITING SYSTEM.

AND THEN THAT'S WHERE I VIEW THAT SYSTEM AND LET'S GET THOSE ROADS LISTED.

SO AT THIS POINT, I WOULD THINK THAT WE, WE WANT TO CREATE A LISTING OF THESE ROADS THAT WE WANT TO, UM, CONSIDER.

UM, CAUSE WE KNOW BASED ON THE WORKING DRAFT, YOU KNOW, FOR ON PAVE ROADS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S AT 2 34 0 0 88.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE PRETTY MUCH KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE HAVE THAT LIST AND THEN THEY CAN PROGRAM A MAN AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT WOULD BE EASIER ONCE, ONCE YOU GUYS SAY YES AND TECHNICALLY YOU, YOU HAVE THAT HEARING AND YOU SAY, YES, OKAY.

CTB HAS MET.

AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ALLOCATING TO WARREN COUNTY.

AND

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THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SAYS, OKAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, WE DO WANT TO, WE DO WANT TO RECEIVE OUR FUNDS.

SO WE DO NEED TO AGREE THAT YEAH, WE WANT TO USE THIS ALLOCATION THAT CTV HAS TOLD V DOT.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FROM PAY FOR ROADS.

SO WE NEED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

I THINK THAT WHAT WE NEED TO DO INTERNALLY IS MAKE THIS LIST AND THEN PROVIDE THIS LIST OF MR. CARTER.

UM, AND I THINK THAT WE CAN GET A LITTLE MORE TECHNICAL IN THE FUTURE AND HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO WORK WITH V.IN THE FUTURE YEARS.

UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE CAN, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO HIS SYSTEM TO SEE WHAT, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY PUT IN, YOU KNOW, SIX 19 AND WHATEVER.

AND UNTIL WE GET THAT SHEET, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF MATT CREATES THAT OR ED CREATES THAT OR THAT COMES FROM THE DISTRICT OFFICE.

SO WHEN YOU'RE ON THIS DOCUMENT, THIS ONE GAS, THERE IS A RURAL RUSTIC LISTED ON EACH OF THESE BLOCKS.

SO IT HAS DOWNING FARM ROAD, RURAL RUSTIC, AND THAT ONE'S DONE AND THAT ONE'S FINISHED THAT ONE'S DONE.

OKAY.

SO WE CAN TAKE THAT OFF PANHANDLE ROAD, RURAL RUSTIC, WHICH IS, WELL, THERE'S TWO PHASES, PHASE ONE HAS BEEN DONE.

OKAY.

SO IS THAT THIS ONE SHOE THAT CAN HANDLE FROM YEP.

THAT ONE'S DONE, THAT ONE'S FINISHED.

OKAY.

AND THEN ROCKY HOLLOW ROAD, RURAL RUSTIC.

AND THAT WILL GET DONE THE SUMMERS.

SO YOUR PANHANDLE WAS AT PHASE TWO, THE 600 TH THE ONE FROM LOW WATER BRIDGE IS PHASE ONE AND THAT'S DONE.

OKAY.

WE GOT PHASE TWO ON THE PAPER YOU GAVE US NORTHERN COOK WAS CONCERNED WITH.

ALRIGHT.

AND ROCKY HOLLOW ROAD, RURAL RUSTIC IS SCHEDULED FOR THIS SUMMER.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

AND THEN KENDRICK FORD ROAD, RURAL RUSTIC.

THAT ONE IS SCHEDULED FOR NEXT YEAR WHEN NEXT YEAR.

NEXT YEAR.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT'S 23, CORRECT? 23 AND 24.

AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER PANHANDLE ROAD, RURAL RUSTIC ON PAGE TWO AND THAT'S PHASE TWO.

AND THAT'S THE NORTH AND YEAH, THAT'S THE LITTLE HALF A MILE NEXT YEAR.

IT'S 1 23 MEANS WE START IN JULY THAT'S FISCAL YEAR.

IF IT SAYS, USUALLY IT'LL SAY WHEN THE FUNDING IS FULLY, WHEN THE STATES THIS.

SO WE'LL DO 23.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY 22, 23.

SO THIS IS WE'LL START 23.

JUST LIKE OUR BUDGET.

LIKE MATT, I USE, I LIKE TO USE THE 22.

HE'LL SAY WE'RE GETTING MY START.

THE 23 BUDGET, YOU KNOW, JULY ONE, IF HE JUST USES THE FISCAL YEAR 23.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THEN YOU HAVE WILLIAM VINCENT ROAD, RURAL RUSTIC.

UM, AND SO THAT'S ALREADY INCLUDED ON THE LIST.

SHERYL JUST GAVE US FOR 25 AND 26.

YUP.

AND THAT WAS THE ONE THAT WE STARTED OUT ON THIS SHEET, WHICH WHAT I READ.

OKAY.

AND THEN THE REST OF IT IS JUST ADDITIONAL RURAL RUSTIC FUNDS, WHICH IS $249,000.

UM, AND THIS, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE 221,000 OF THAT WILL BE ALLOCATED IN 24 AND 25.

SO BASICALLY WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE LIST THAT CHERYL HAS FROM WHAT WAS ON THE RURAL RUSTIC LIST, RICHARDSON, MESSICK, CATLETT FORD, STEVE LANE, AND LAND'S RUN AND PLUG THOSE IN TO SEE WHICH OF THOSE ARE GOING TO FIT INTO THIS $250,000.

WELL, YOU'VE GOT TWO OPEN SPACES ON HERE.

YEP.

SO IT MAKES SENSE TO START GOING DOWN, UNLESS SOMETHING UNFORESEEN COMES UP, ONE OF THESE ROADS GETS TOTALLY WASHED OUT, TORE UP, BUT THAT'S UP TO THEM TO DO THEIR PART.

I MEAN, PART OF THIS HAS BEEN PRELIMINARILY DONE BEFORE WE WENT TO THIS PRIORITIZATION.

SO I SAY, WE JUST GIVE YOU THIS LIST OF ROADS AND YOU GUYS CAN DECIDE AND FIGURE OUT PRIORITY.

AND THEN WE GET SOME SORT OF REPORT BACK OF THE 25, 26, 27 AND 28, UM, RURAL RUSTIC ROAD PROJECT IN TERMS OF WHICH ONES OF THESE YOU THINK ARE GOING TO PASS THE MUSTER TO GET US THE ALLOCATION.

AND THEN WE DECIDE FROM THERE.

RIGHT.

IS THAT A GOOD PLAN? WELL, A BIG QUESTION NOW, SO RIGHT NOW FOR FORK DISTRICT IS THAT HALF A MILE AND PANHANDLE AND THEN KENDRA PORT, ARE WE SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT IN THE BUCKET OF REPRIORITIZING.

IT'S ALREADY PRIORITIZED OKAY.

LONG AS THAT, THOSE ARE NOT GOING AWAY.

SO WE'RE LOOKING, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT PRIORITIZING ROADS FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 THROUGH 28,

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CORRECT? RIGHT.

YUP.

YOUR ROADS ARE ALREADY ALLOCATED FUNDS.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

RIGHT BEFORE JULY 4TH.

RIGHT.

WHEN YOU ADD THESE IN THESE, IN HERE SO THAT YOU CAN, WITH THOSE ADDITIONS, AS YOU SUGGESTED.

AND I THOUGHT THAT ON THE 28, I THINK THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

AND I LIKE THE LIST THAT CHERYL HAS.

THE ONE THING THAT CHERYL HAS MADE A RECOMMENDATION OF THOUGH, THAT I THINK WE NEED TO ADOPT FOR JULY MOVING FORWARD IS SOME SORT OF ROAD COMMISSION, WHETHER I, SO I'M GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

I DON'T KNOW WHICH ROADS IN MY AREA NEED THE MOST ATTENTION UNLESS SOMEBODY YELLS IN THE SPRINGS ABOUT IT.

AND SO I I'LL BE HONEST BECAUSE I DON'T LIVE ON THOSE ROADS.

SO I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, I DRIVE OUT AROUND, BUT THERE MAY BE A ROAD THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAT A CITIZEN WOULD KNOW MORE THAN I DID.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE OLD WAY OF HAVING A CITIZEN NOMINATED FROM EACH DISTRICT THAT WOULD BE IN A COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THIS ALL THE TIME AND CONSTANTLY BE UPDATED ON WHICH ROADS ARE NECESSARY TO REPAIR, BUT DON'T SHOOT NET CITIZEN GROUP BE PART OF PUBLIC WORKS.

I MEAN, PUBLIC WORKS SEES ALL OF THE ROADS ALL THE TIME.

I MEAN, THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT THEY DO, THAT THEY SHOULD BE THE ONES I THINK THEY SHOULD BE THE ONES THAT SAY, HEY, PANHANDLE ROAD NEEDS MORE WORK OR WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE PANHANDLE THE NEXT HALF MILE OR WHAT, WHATEVER ROAD IT HAPPENS TO BE.

BECAUSE WE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD PICK A ONE CITIZEN IN EACH DISTRICT THAT SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ROADS.

WELL, I DON'T THINK IT'S BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ROADS.

I THINK IT JUST GIVES INPUT TO COTIVITY IS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.

BUT, WELL, I MEAN, I RUN MY ROADS ONCE EVERY TWO TO THREE WEEKS, I DON'T RUN THEM ALL.

CAUSE MY LITTLE CAR WON'T DO IT, UH, ESPECIALLY UP IN THE, UH, FARMS AREA, BUT I SEE MY ROADS AND OVERALL MY ROADS ARE KIND OF OKAY NOBODY'S, I MEAN, I SEE SOME STRIPING AND I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, OR SOME POTHOLES AND STUFF AND I LET V DOT KNOW OR MIKE KNOW AND THEY GET TAKEN CARE OF, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M QUALIFIED TO SAY AND ANYBODY ELSE IN MY, IN MY DISTRICT THAT CAN ACTUALLY SAY THAT AND, AND BE VERY SECURE IN THEIR THOUGHTS THAT THIS ROAD NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE.

I HAVE A SUGGESTION.

SURE.

CAN WE PUT ON PUBLIC WORKS WEBPAGE A, A, A LINK WE'RE CITIZENS THAT HAVE ROADS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED TO GO IN THE WEBSITE AND THEN PUT THAT ROAD IN AND THEN IT, THEN ONCE THOSE ROADS COME IN, THAT IT GOES THROUGH THE EVALUATION PROCESS.

I MEAN, RATHER THAN HAVING, UH, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER COMMITTEE TO, TO DO ALL OF THIS, IT COULD, THAT IS SUCH A BIG, IT WOULD BE SUCH A BIG RESPONSIBILITY.

AND W P IF YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE ROADS ALL THE TIME, YOU'RE GOING TO MISS SOMETHING.

AND IF I CAN ADD TO THAT SUGGESTION, ONCE WE GET THIS PLAN, PUT TOGETHER, MAYBE PUBLISH THIS ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL.

SO OUR CONSTITUENTS CAN SEE WHAT THE PLANS ARE.

YEAH.

AND I TH I THINK, I MEAN, I'VE SEEN TWO MODELS.

ONE IS, UH, LIKE, WHICH I, I LIKE, YOU KNOW, ORANGE COUNTY AND ITS SIMPLE FORM WHERE I THINK WHERE WE'RE SITTING RIGHT NOW IS, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE SECONDARY PLAN.

THIS IS OUR ALLOCATION.

WE HAVE APPROVED THIS AND THIS IS OUR AUXILIARY LISTING OF ROADS.

AND THEN PART TWO, AS, AS WE GET, UH, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE MORE, UM, AHEAD OF THE GAME, UM, IF YOU GO TO LIKE A FREDERICK COUNTY, THEY'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY'RE A LOT BIGGER, BUT THEY'LL HAVE ALL OF THEIR, THEIR MAJOR PROJECTS IN THERE AS WELL, LIKE TERRENCE WORKING ON SMART SCALE.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THAT'S WHERE, I MEAN, THEY HAVE A DESIGNATED TRANSPORTATION PERSON, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, OKAY, THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, OUR PROJECTS ON THE INTERSTATE AND IT COMES FROM THIS FUND SECTOR, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS OUR, YOU KNOW, ON PAVED OUR RURAL RUSTIC, WHICH ARE THE STATE ROADS, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE ALREADY STATE ROADS.

AND, YOU KNOW, HERE IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR FISCAL YEAR 23, HERE'S OUR SIX YEAR PLAN.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER FUN SEGMENT FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, REVENUE SHARING AND THE REVENUE SHARING PROJECT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NON TYPICAL.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND US DOING REVENUE

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SHARING, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMMUNITIES AND THE SANITARY DISTRICTS, BUT RATHER THERE, SHARON COULD BE A PROJECT IN THE CITY OF WINCHESTER AND THEY'RE DOING A REVENUE SHARING PROJECT TO PUT IN A NEW CONNECTOR.

SO THEY HAVE THEM BROKEN DOWN SOMEWHAT WITH FUNDING AND, YOU KNOW, PAID NON PAY MAJOR PROJECTS.

AND THEN THEY WORK WITH GIS TO CREATE A MAP AND THE MAP SHOWS AND WE HAVE DONE SOME OF THAT IN THE PAST.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND WE JUST HAVEN'T REALLY IN THE LAST YEAR, SO REALLY GOT THAT DEEP.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SHOW ON THE MAP, HEY, THIS IS THE BOARD'S PRIORITIES.

THIS IS OUR SIX YEAR PLAN.

THESE ARE OUR PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR FUTURE ROAD LIST.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'D YOU LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT, HERE'S A SUGGESTION FOR THEM.

UM, I BELIEVE PLANNING USED TO RECEIVE THE REVENUE SHARING APPLICATIONS.

UM, I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD ANY COME IN IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO, BUT, UM, TYPICALLY YOU JUST UPDATE THE FORM.

IT GIVES YOU A KIND OF A BRIEF GUIDANCE AND GIVES YOU KIND OF A BASIC SPECTRUM OF OUR APPROVED WRITINGS LIST.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

YOU KNOW, IF YOUR COMMUNITY IS WILLING TO, UM, DEDICATE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THEN A UTILITY RELOCATION.

BUT, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY WE HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET 25%, YOU GIVE 25, THE COUNTY GIVES 25 IS THEY GETS 50 AND THAT'S UP TO THE VALUE.

UM, IN THE PAST IT WAS $250,000, UM, BY THE COUNTY AND YOU HAVE THAT APPLICATION FORM AND THAT, THAT SHOULD BE EASY TO PUT ONLINE.

YOU COULD DO SOMETHING SIMILAR.

I I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH EVERYONE.

I THINK THAT THE, UM, BUT I, I THINK THAT YOU CAN HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A COMMITTEE OF FOLKS AND YOU COULD ADD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE ANOTHER OPINION.

UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON HOW YOU WANT TO APPROACH IT.

UM, ONE THING I HAVE ASKED EMMA TO DO AND DON'T HAVE IT QUITE TOGETHER YET, I DID GET A LISTING OF THE STATE ROADS, THE UNPAVED ROADS, WHICH ARE ALREADY STATE MAINTAINED.

UM, AND SOME OF THOSE ARE SEGMENTED AND EMMA'S WORKING ON CREATING A MAP SO THAT I COULD GIVE IT TO YOU TO LOOK AT, WHICH I THOUGHT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ANSWER THE QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING, WHERE IS THIS? AND, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE WE CAN GET HER TO COLOR CODE AND BREAK IT INTO THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DISTRICTS TO MAKE IT A LITTLE, I MEAN, IF YOU GUYS NEED THAT BOUNDARY IN THERE TOO, UM, IF THAT'S IMPORTANT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY HAVE THAT MAYBE NEXT WEEK OR SO.

I'LL, I'LL SPEAK WITH EMMA YEAH.

BINS OR THE DISTRICT'S CHANGED.

THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL ANYWAY.

RIGHT.

SO, AND THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AND, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ALREADY HAVE A START ON, YOU KNOW, SHE'LL HAVE A START ON THAT MAP AND WE CAN SAY, OKAY, WELL, THESE ARE OUR PRIORITIES AND HEY, THIS IS F Y 23.

AND WE CAN MAKE THAT YELLOW AND FYI, WHATEVER WE CAN MAKE BLUE AND RED, AND WE CAN MAKE IT LOOK REAL PRETTY, AND EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT.

UM, THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT I'M THINKING BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

WELL, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY THAT, AND WHEN I SAY EVERYBODY, I DON'T MEAN HERE, HERE, INCLUDING EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY.

CAUSE I KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ASK FOR THE ROAD TO GET ON AND THAT IT'S PUT ON.

AND WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATION THEY'RE TOLD, YOU KNOW, WELL IT'S ON THE SIX YEAR PLAN.

SO THEY'RE IN THEIR EXPECTATION IS WITHIN THE NEXT SIX YEARS, THIS WILL GET DONE AND I'VE KNOW OF ROADS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE PLAN FOR 20, 30 YEARS.

AND IT'S BECAUSE THE DECISION IS MADE TO BUMP THEM AND PUT, YOU KNOW, OKAY WOMAN IT'S WORKED OUT WELL, IF I GIVE YOU YOURS NOW, YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S A HORRIBLE THING, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT, IT TRICKLES DOWN TO THE COMMUNITY THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ANTICIPATING AND THINKING, OKAY, WE, WE GAVE UP RIGHT AWAY AND NOW WITH RURAL RUSTIC, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE RIGHT AWAY.

UM, DO YOU KNOW, ROCKY, LANE'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE UP THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND THEN WHEN RURAL RUSTIC CAME THROUGH AND IT'S LIKE, OH, WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE UP RIGHT AWAY.

WE JUST BASICALLY PAVE IN PLACE.

AND THEN THAT ROAD TURNED OUT TO BE A RECONSTRUCT ROAD BECAUSE ONCE THEY GOT INTO IT, THEY HAD DRAINAGE AND WATER ISSUES.

AND SO THEN THAT, AND THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF EIGHT RAN OVER AND THEN IT BUMPED BACK THE NEXT COUPLE OF ROADS FOR YEARS.

AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET INTO THOSE UNFORESEEN THINGS, SIMILAR TO WHAT'S HAPPENING DOWN TO OLD OAK, BUT THAT'S UNDERNEATH OF A WHOLE DIFFERENT CATEGORY.

UM, ROCKY LANE WAS ALSO A REVENUE SHARING PROJECT.

YEAH.

THEY GOT INTO REVENUE SHARING OUT OF THAT BECAUSE OF THAT.

RIGHT.

UM, SO YEAH, THINGS CHANGE AND, AND

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WE JUST NEED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOTTA BE FLEXIBLE WITH IT, BUT WE NEED TO INFORM THE PEOPLE TOO, BECAUSE THE, THE NEXT COUPLE OF ROWS THAT THOUGHT THEIR ROADS WERE GOING TO START ON THIS YEAR AND THIS YEAR WE DON'T GO BACK OUT AND EXPLAIN TO THEM.

SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, OH, WELL, THEY CHANGED EVERYTHING.

AND WE'RE FORGOT.

I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY STARTED ON IN, IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

UH, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED WITH YOUR CTB REP, UM, MICHAEL COUGH.

AND I DID GO TO THE CTB MEETING.

YEAH.

THAT WAS MY FIRST TIME GOING THERE.

BUT YOU KNOW, THE CTB IS REALLY WHERE THE FUNDING BEGINS AND IT'S DISTRIBUTED TO V DOT, YOU KNOW, FROM FEDERAL PROGRAMS AND THEIR REQUIREMENTS IN THE STATE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN THE MONEY COMES DOWN AND THE ALLOCATION HAS GIVEN THE VITA.

AND THE THING TO REMEMBER IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE RURAL RUSTICS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ROADS THAT THE STATE ALREADY MAINTAINS.

SO THEY'RE REALLY COMING TO YOU FOR THE PRIORITIZATION, HEY COUNTY, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO WORK TOGETHER WITH YOU.

WHAT IS YOUR PRIORITY? WHAT'S THE PRIORITY FOR YOUR PEOPLE? AND HOW DO WE DISPERSE? WHAT WE KNOW WE HAVE A PROJECT FOR THE NEXT SIX YEARS, HOW WE WILL SPEND THE FUNDING, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE FUNDING WILL BE.

WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BUDGET'S GOING TO GO.

SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, STEP ONE IS BASICALLY TO ACCEPT THE MONEY THEY'RE TRYING TO GIVE US.

AND STEP TWO IS FOR US TO COME UP WITH THE PLAN, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE OUR PRIORITIES? AND, AND, AND IN THE IMMEDIATE, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK THAT IF YOU HAVE A LIST OF ROADS, THEN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN DO A GOOD EVALUATION IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

AND I MEAN, TRULY, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR AUXILIARY LISTING AND THE BOARD'S PRIORITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, ON THE WEBSITE, WE SAY, THIS IS OUR SIX YEAR PLAN.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FUNDING THAT WE'VE BEEN ALLOTTED.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, UNDERNEATH, HEY, WE HAVE CREATED AN AUXILIARY ROAD LISTING AND WE MIGHT NOT HAVE THE FULL FUNCTIONALITY, BUT WE CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE ESTIMATED NUMBER OF CARS TRAVELED THE NUMBER OF MILES WHERE IT'S AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WELL, I WOULD STILL SAY, AND THIS IS COMING FROM HAVING A STATE EMPLOYEE FOR A SPOUSE FOR 42 YEARS, WE'VE GOT TO PLUG ROAD NAMES AND ON THESE TWO OPEN SLOTS, IF WE CHANGE THEM IN THE FUTURE, WE CHANGED THEM, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE ROAD NAMES NOW.

AND THAT'S A GOOD, THAT'S A GOOD POINT TO, TO CHAIRMAN COLOR'S POINT, IS THAT NOTHING WE CAN CHANGE THESE NEXT YEAR IN THIS, IN THE SAME PROCESS, RIGHT? WE CAN SAY, WHOOPS, WELL, SOME, ONE OF THE OTHER ROADS REQUIRES MORE ATTENTION THAN THE ONES WE TOLD YOU LAST YEAR, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO START THE EVALUATION OF WHATEVER THIS LIST WAS THAT WAS ALREADY IN PLACE IN 19.

YEAH.

CAUSE THEN IT'S, THEY'RE PROBABLY STILL WAITING AND THINKING THERE, YOU KNOW, AND IF, IF WE PUT WILLIAM VINCENT AND RICHARDSON ROAD DOWN AND IT TURNS OUT THAT MESSICK AND CATLETT YUP.

YOU KNOW, OR STEED AND LANDS, RUN, THEN WE CAN ADJUST AND, AND YOU KNOW, BUT YEAH.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO LOOK AT YOUR DOLLARS TOO.

AND HEY, IF WE GOT 150 AND YOU HAVE $150,000 PROJECT, WE CAN COMPLETE THIS PROJECT IN A YEAR AND WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GO A QUARTER MILE.

AND THAT GIVES YOU TIME TO DO YOUR EVALUATION, COME BACK TO US, BUT STILL HAVE THIS THING READY, PUT IT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, CAN SEE IT, HAVE AN IDEA, PUBLIC HEARING.

AND WITH THE UNDERSTANDING, IF IT NEEDS TO BE TWEAKED, IT'LL BE TWEAKED.

AND THAT GOES FOR WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING PRIORITIZATION WISE AND SO FORTH BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY THESE ARE JUST SIX ROADS.

THERE ARE MORE ROADS.

WE KNOW THERE'S MORE ROADS.

UM, I AM, I CAN THINK OF A WHOLE LOT, BUT YOU KNOW, THESE BEING WHAT WAS IN THIS PLAN AND SOME OF THEM FOR, YOU KNOW, A REASON THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

THAT MIDDLE SECTION OF PANHANDLE, THE ONLY REASON THAT HADN'T BEEN PUT ON WAS BECAUSE UNDER THE OLD SYSTEM YOU NEEDED TO HAVE RIGHT AWAY GIVEN.

AND THERE WAS ONE PERSON ON THAT SECTION THAT WOULDN'T GIVE RIGHT AWAY.

WE CERTAINLY WERE NOT GOING TO DO EMINENT DOMAIN, BUT NOW YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

SO YOU CAN GO GET WHAT YOU CAN GET.

AND IF YOU HAVE TO NARROW DOWN WHERE THAT PERSON IS AND THEN SPREAD BACK OUT, YOU CAN DO IT NOW.

SO EVENTUALLY PANHANDLE ROAD, THAT MIDDLE SECTION, UM, IT'S, IT WAS ALWAYS AN EMERGENCY ROUTE WHEN THE WATER WITH A LOW WATER BRIDGE AND BENTONVILLE, THAT WAS THE ONLY WAY

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THOSE PEOPLE COULD GET OUT WOULD BE TO GO THAT WAY.

UM, THANK GOODNESS WITH THE BRIDGE UP, BUT YOU ALWAYS HAVE, IF THERE'S A, A FIRE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT CUTS IT OFF, YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE IT WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET OUT BOTH ENDS.

CAUSE ALL OF THAT, A LOT OF THAT IS NATIONAL FOREST.

UM, BUT SO THERE'S, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE, BUT JUST GOING OFF OF WHAT WAS THERE AND IT JUST MADE SENSE TO ME TO GO AHEAD AND OKAY, WE GOT TWO OPEN SLOTS, RIGHT.

WE'RE SHARING IT OFF EQUALLY AND IF WE NEED TO MOVE IT, WE CAN, BUT IT GETS US TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YEAH, I, I'M FINE.

UM, I MEAN, AGAIN, THIS IS THE, THIS IS V DOTS PAPERWORK.

I TOLD MR. CARTER TO LET YOU PUT YOUR NAMES IN THERE AND I THINK EVERYTHING WILL BE GOOD.

YOU KNOW? SO I WAS, I THINK WE GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PLAN.

AND THEN, UH, DR.

DALEY, THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 28TH.

ALL RIGHT.

AND WE'LL GET THOSE OUT FOR PUBLIC VIEWING, UM, AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT PEOPLE MAKE COMMENTS CAN, SO WHICH, SO THE TWO SLOTS, OR DO YOU JUST WANT TO, I WOULD JUST GO WITH THE FIRST TWO ON HERE THAT PUTS ONE, ONE IN MIND, BUT ONE IN YEARS.

AND AT THIS POINT I KNOW THE REASON I'M CATLIN CATLIN FORWARD, IT GOES DOWN TO THAT BOAT LANDING.

YEP.

YEAH.

AND THEN OF COURSE THE OTHER TWO, SO THAT, THAT RICHARDS LINDA RICHARDSON ROADS AND YOURS ON YOUR WHY'S AT YOURS, BUT YOU'RE GETTING ONE THIS YEAR POS AND ONE NEXT YEAR, KENDRICK FORD, THIS YEAR PANHANDLE NEXT, OR MAYBE BOTH OF THEM THAT YOU THINK IT WELL, I THINK THEY WERE MOVED OUT A YEAR TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, I THINK IS GOING TO BE IN 24TH.

IT DOES IT, BUT YOU'RE, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT FOR WHAT THEY HAVE FUNDING FOR BASED ON THE VIRGINIA ASSEMBLY.

SO CORRECT SHARE THERE'S TWO OF THEM THEY'RE CONSTANTLY HAVING TO READ, I THINK, READJUST RECALCULATE.

THAT'S WHAT MY GPS SAYS, RECALCULATING.

WELL, AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S A SIX YEAR PLAN FOR A REASON.

SHE WAS LUCKY IF YOU GET IT IN SIX YEARS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO HAVING A WORK SESSION NEXT TUESDAY.

YES.

THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE NEXT THING THAT THIS WILL COME UP.

UM, ON THE 28TH, JUNE 14TH, WE WILL BE MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, UH, FOR A WORK SESSION ON THEIR BUDGET.

AND WE WILL, YES.

SCHOOL LED MEN, UH, TOWARDS BEING INVITED, BUT WE'RE NOT SURE IF THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ATTEND OR NOT.

SO WE'LL LET THE SCHOOL ADMIN POSSIBLY SCHOOL BOARD, THEY HAVE, THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS A MEETING THE NEXT DAY, ALBERT DIVERSIFIED MINES THAT THEY SAID THE BOARD IS INVITED TO GO OVER THERE TO.

OKAY.

OKAY.

NEXT WEDNESDAY.

SO HOPEFULLY BETWEEN THOSE TWO DATES, WE WILL ALL BE HARMONIOUS TOGETHER.

UM, AND ALSO JUNE 14TH HERE WILL BE, UM, WON'T NECESSARILY BE A WORK SESSION, BUT IT WILL BE A PRESENTATION OF, UM, WHAT WILL COME ABOUT AT THE END OF JUNE WITH THE SHANANDOAH FARM SANITARY DISTRICT TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS, UM, AND THE INFORMATION AND MISINFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN CIRCULATED AROUND THAT WE WANT TO, UM, IT WILL NOT BE A QUESTION ANSWER TIME.

IT WILL BE A PRESENTATION.

PEOPLE ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME HERE.

WHAT'S GOING ON.

UM, IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, IF THEY WOULD WRITE THEM DOWN AND THEN WE WILL MAKE SURE WE GET THEM ALL ANSWERED.

YES MA'AM THANKS.

SO, AND THAT WILL BE AT SIX O'CLOCK.

YES MA'AM.

ALL RIGHT.

AND WE GET THAT INFORMATION OUT ON THE WEBSITE AND IS EVERYBODY CALL YOUR NEIGHBORS AND TELL THEM NOT JUST THE WEBSITE MS. CHARLOTTE, CAN WE PUT IT ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE IN BIG SHENANDOAH FARMS AND SANITARY DISTRICT PRESENTS? YEAH.

AND ON OUR COMMUNITY CHANNEL AS WELL, ANYWHERE WE CAN STICK IT OUT, LET'S GET IT OUT THERE.

OKAY.

AND WE WILL DO, UM, WE'LL PROBABLY DO THE SCHOOL BOARD FIRST SCHOOL STAFF PRESENTATION TO UPDATE THE BOARD ON ALL THESE DIFFERENT, THESE THREE BUDGETS.

OKAY.

SO THAT WILL, ALL THOSE NUMBERS MEANS THAT'LL PROBABLY BE FIRST AND THEN WE'LL DO SHENANDOAH PHARMACY.

OKAY.

SO THE SCHOOL PRESENTATION, IT'S

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SIX WITH THE SANITARY DISTRICT TO FOLLOW THAT WAY, TO GIVE PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT GET HOME THAT SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO RUSH AS QUICKLY.

I WOULD SAY THAT'S GOING TO BE 6 45 TO SEVEN, AT LEAST PROBABLY SIX.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

WELL, IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

WE ARE DONE.

THANK YOU ALL.