Jan 03, 2023 Board of Supervisors Meeting

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OKAY, I'M GONNA DO IT.

NOPE, YOU'RE

[Work Session A. Overview of Proposed Changes to 2023 Meeting Policy and Procedures and Public Hearing Guidelines]

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL ASK MR. HAM.

OKAY.

SO, OR YOU CAN READ IT RIGHT THERE.

WELL, YOU MIGHT WANT TO READ THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT, BUT, UM, YEP.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BUNCH OF TRACK CHANGES.

IT'S LEY WRITING IN THERE, ET CETERA.

BUT BASICALLY THERE'S THREE PRIMARY CHANGES.

AND THE FIRST ONE IS THAT WE ARE MOVING THE, UH, REGULAR, THE SECOND, UH, THE REGULAR MEETING FROM 9:00 AM TO 7:00 PM SO ALL OUR MEETINGS WILL BE 7:00 PM AND SO THAT REQUIRED VARIOUS CHANGES THROUGH YOUR RULES.

NEXT CHANGE IS, UH, TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL THIRD REGULAR MEETING ON THE FOURTH TUESDAY FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO ONLY BE FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

AND SO THE, AND I DO WANNA POINT THIS OUT IN SECTION THREE DASH ONE, BECAUSE IT IS A REGULAR MEETING, YOU COULD TECHNICALLY DO ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO AT THAT MEETING.

AND THAT'S NOT THE INTENT OF IT.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO JUST BE FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

SO THE RULE, SO THE CURRENT PROPOSED RULE PROVIDES THAT THE ONLY ITEMS OF BUSINESS WILL BE PUBLIC HEARINGS UNLESS ALL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, NOT JUST THOSE PRESENT CONSENT TO ADD ITEMS. SO YOU GOTTA BE UNANIMOUS OF EVERYBODY NOT JUST THERE, UH, TO DO THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE REASON ALSO FOR THAT IS, IS THAT I'M NOT GONNA BE THERE FOR THAT, CUZ THAT CONFLICTS DIRECTLY WITH SHENANDOAH COUNTY'S MEETINGS.

UM, BUT IF, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING DOES COME UP, THEN THERE'LL BE SOME ADVANCED NOTICE OF IT.

CUZ THERE'LL HAVE TO BE CONSENT OF EVERYBODY, UH, BEFORE THAT HAPPENS.

AND I MIGHT INTERRUPT IF, IF THERE ARE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS NECESSARY, THAT MEETING IS CANCELED.

THIS IS JUST FOR ALL THOSE SHORT TERM RENTALS IN THAT.

WELL, THERE'S MONDAY AND THERE'S WEDNESDAY AND THERE'S THURSDAY.

SO, UM, PRIMARY CHANGE NUMBER THREE, THIS IS A, A REWRITE OF THE ELECTRONIC MEETING, UM, RULES.

SO BASICALLY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, THIS IS PART OF VIRGINIA FREEDOM INFORMATION ACT, AND THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ALWAYS TINKERS WITH THIS.

AND SO THEY ACTUALLY REPEALED THE EXISTING CODE SECTION THAT AUTHORIZED IT AND REENACTED A NEW CODE SECTION.

IT REALLY ISN'T ALL THAT DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY DOING, BUT IT DOES HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE TO IT.

UM, WHERE BASICALLY IT ADDS FAMILY MEMBER CARE AND DISTANCE MORE THAN 60 MILES TO THE LIST OF REASONS WHY YOU CAN, UH, USE ELECTRONIC PARTICIPATION.

AND IT MAKES EXPLICIT THAT YOU ONLY NEED TO PROVIDE A GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF YOUR REMOTE LOCATION INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, I AM AT 1 23 ABC STREET, ET CETERA.

UH, WHICH, WHICH ARE GOOD, UH, CHANGES AND VARIOUS OTHER LITTLE CHANGES TO IT.

SO IT, IT LOOKS A LOT, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF RED THERE, BUT BASICALLY IT'S IDENTICAL, UM, PROCEDURE THAN, THAN WHAT YOU DID LAST TIME.

SLIGHTLY BROADER AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE NEW STATE LAW.

SO JASON, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, DOES THIS SPECIFICALLY APPLY JUST TO MEETINGS OR DOES IT ALSO APPLY TO WORK SESSIONS? UM, BECAUSE IT, IT ONLY SPEAKS THE LANGUAGE OF MEETINGS.

AND THAT'S IN A, THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT.

THE REASON I'M ASKING IS I'M LEAVING TOWN NEXT WEEK, AND I WON'T BE HERE FOR THE WORK SESSION, BUT I COULD PARTICIPATE ELECTRONICALLY.

BUT IT DIDN'T SAY THAT THAT WAS AN OPTION FOR A WORK SESSION.

ISN'T A WORK SESSION AN MAIN INFORMED MEETING? YEAH, I THINK A WORK SESSION IS A MEETING OF THE BOARD.

SO YES, YOU CAN DO THAT.

OKAY.

AND, UM, AND YOU MIGHT HEAR TOO ABOUT THAT BODIES OTHER THAN LOCALITIES, LIKE YOUR IDA FOR EXAMPLE, TWICE PER YEAR CAN HAVE AN ALL VIRTUAL MEETING.

RIGHT.

UM, AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE TEST BALLOON FOR SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE.

LOCALITIES MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT TOO, BUT THAT HASN'T HAPPENED YET.

SO THOSE ARE THE ACTUAL PRIMARY CHANGES.

UM, SINCE WE FIDDLE WITH SO MUCH, I SORT OF WENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT AND EMILY DID TOO, AND, UM, CHANGED SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE TO, UH, MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IT REALLY IS.

IT'S A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT INSTEAD OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SOME CAPITALIZATIONS, UM, THERE IN, AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE OTHER MISCELLANEOUS CHANGES, UM, THAT I THINK ARE REALLY NOT ALL THAT POLICY INTERESTING, FRANKLY,

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AND THEN OF COURSE FIVE DASH FOUR, YOU'VE GOT THE CIVIC PLUS NOW.

SO REFERENCE TO EXTRA COPIES BEING AVAILABLE IS NOT, DOESN'T REALLY MATTER ANYMORE.

YEAH.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, UH, WHERE, WHERE WE, WHERE YOU, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE THREE MINUTE LIFT MM-HMM.

, SHOULD THAT BE APPLIED FOR EVERYONE? THE REASON I'M ASKING IS CAUSE YOU MAY HAVE SOMEONE WHO COMES UP AND SAYS, OH, FIVE MINUTES, THE BOARD HEAR WHAT SAYS SPOKE FOR.

I MEAN, IS THAT ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF WE ENFORCE THE LAW THAT WE ENFORCE Y YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

WE SHOULD DO THAT.

NOW, OF COURSE THERE'S CIRCUMSTANCES.

SOMEBODY'S TALKING ABOUT THEIR, YOU KNOW, UH, RELATIVE WHO'S DIED IN THE, IN THE CHAIR WANTS TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT, ET CETERA.

AND SO THERE'S THIS, BUT YES, YOU SHOULD.

AND YOU KNOW, I I SAY THREE MINUTES, GETTYSBURG ADDRESS WAS LESS THAN THREE MINUTES.

YOU CAN MAKE YOUR POINT IN THREE MINUTES.

AND ONE OF THOSE OTHER CHANGES I WAS ABOUT TO GET TO IS THAT I DID PUT THE THREE MINUTES INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING GUIDELINES AS WELL.

AND THE PERSONS THAT IT WOULD NOT APPLY TO WOULD BE THE ACTUAL APPLICANT THEMSELVES.

BECAUSE YOU CAN IMAGINE IF THEY'VE GOT SOME COMPLICATED PERMIT THAT THEY WANT TO GET OR REZONING, ET CETERA, OR THEY'VE GOT THEIR ENGINEER AND THEIR LAWYER HERE, THEY'RE GONNA NEED MORE THAN THREE MINUTES AND THEY'VE GOT SOME PROPERTY RIGHTS AT ISSUE.

SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THEY'RE GONNA GET SOME MORE TIME.

BUT THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT IT BUILT IN THEIR BACKYARD OR HAVE SOME OTHER CONCERN THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THEIR THEIR THREE MINUTES.

AND SO I MADE THAT EXPLICIT, UM, BEFORE IT SAID THAT BASICALLY THE TIME ALLOWED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WOULD BE DECIDED BY THE CHAIR.

AND I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, I YOU ALWAYS SORT OF THINK ABOUT WHAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IF YOU, IF YOU HAD A CHAIRPERSON IS, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO KILL THIS PROJECT SO I'M ON A FILIBUSTER, YOU HAVE 10,000 MINUTES, YOU KNOW, YOU AND THERE'S EXTREME, THERE'S NO NOBODY SITTING IN THIS ROOM THAT WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT YOU TRY TO FUTUREPROOF EVERYTHING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

AND SO I I PUT THAT IN FOR THREE MINUTES AS WELL.

I THINK THAT IN THE PAST, HISTORICALLY THAT'S BEEN IMPLIED ANYWAY, MAYBE IMPLIED THERE'S AN EXPLICIT, BUT IT'S BEEN IMPLIED IN THE PAST THAT WE WOULD'VE, THAT ANYONE SPEAKING AT A PUBLIC HEARING HAS THREE BENEFIT.

IT'S A PUBLIC COMMENT.

YEAH.

PERHAPS IT'S IMPLIED, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE RULES WHEN I PUT IT IN THERE.

SO YEAH, NO, I LIKE THAT IT'S EXPLICIT.

YEAH.

BUT THE PERSON PRESENTED IT DOESN'T APPLY TO THAT.

NO, BECAUSE CAUSE BASICALLY IT'S A PRESENTATION FOR THAT.

YEAH, IT'S A PRESENTATION AND IT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME BIG MONEY AT ISSUE.

YOU GOT SOMEBODY THAT'S GOT A 60 ACRE PARCEL AND YOU'RE GONNA LET 'EM DO IT OR NOT.

I MEAN, THERE'S POTENTIALLY MILLIONS AT STAKE.

THEY NEED TO HAVE THEIR TIME MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT.

YEAH.

THEY DON'T, THEY GET, THEY GET THE TIME THAT, THAT THEY NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.

THE THREE MINUTE LIMIT JUST FOR, UM, PUBLIC, I THINK IT WOULD, THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, THEIR, YOUR RULES DON'T SAY YOU HAVE TO READ ANYBODY'S EMAILS.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, IF WE ELECTED TO, YEAH, I THINK THAT IT WOULD.

WELL CUZ OUR RULES DON'T SAY WE HAVE TO READ PEOPLE'S EMAILS AND I'M NOT SURE THAT'S A GOOD PRACTICE, FRANKLY.

UM, BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, PEOPLE CAN BE A LOT NASTIER WITH EMAILS.

YOU CAN SEND A LONG RAMBLY THING, YOU COULD BE NASTY ABOUT IT.

YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU DO? ARE YOU GONNA CENSOR IT AND NOT READ THE PARTS THAT WOULD BE NOT IN COMPLIANT WITH OUR RULE? THAT REALLY MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE.

SO I, I'D PREFER THAT YOU DIDN'T READ EMAILS FROM PEOPLE.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAD SOMEBODY THAT REALLY WANTED TO MAKE COMMENTS AND COULDN'T A SUPERVISOR COULD, YOU KNOW, CARRY THAT WATER FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL, YOU KNOW, I HEARD FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO WANTED ME TO SAY, AH, I MEAN, THAT'S FINE.

ANY ONE OF YOU CAN DO THAT.

THAT WOULD BE THE MORE APPROPRIATE WAY TO DO THAT.

OR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PERSON TRIES TO COME OR, YOU KNOW, THEY SEND A FRIEND, NEIGHBOR, WHATEVER THEIR SPOUSE IF THEY'RE MARRIED, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER IT WORKS.

I THINK THAT, UM, READING BECAME A PRACTICE DURING THE PANDEMIC WHEN PEOPLE WERE NOT ABLE TO COME IN AND SPEAK IN PERSON.

SO WE TRIED TO ACCOMMODATE PUBLIC SPEAKING AND HONORED THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS IN THAT WAY.

BUT IT DIDN'T, HAS NEVER BEEN AN EXPLICIT LIFE OF SOMEBODY TO, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE IT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

WE ABSOLUTELY, WE DID.

WE'VE BEEN OVER BACKWARDS ON THAT.

WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, SET UP SITUATIONS WHERE YOU COULD CALL IN OR WEB IN ET CETERA.

BUT YEAH, THAT WAS A, YOU KNOW, HAPPENS EVERY HUNDRED YEARS SO NOBODY WILL BE AROUND TO DEAL WITH THE NEXT ONE.

BUT YEAH.

, THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THAT.

UM,

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ALRIGHT, WELL WE ALREADY GOT INTO QUESTIONS, BUT THAT'S MY PRESENTATION QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DOCUMENT.

UH, MEANS IT'S PRETTY, IT HAS A LOT OF RED LINES, BUT IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME DOCUMENTS YOU'VE HAD EVERY BEFORE.

YEAH.

AGAIN, THE SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES ARE THE THREE PRIMARY CHANGES THAT I THINK YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT.

WELL THIS IS THE TIME, THE FIRST TIME I, SO, UM, SO THERE WAS A COUPLE THINGS.

WELL IF YOU, IF YOU WANNA DO THAT PRIVATELY, YOU'RE WELCOME TO, BUT THIS IS, WE'VE ALLOCATED TIME TO DO THAT.

AND YOU'RE GONNA BE ASKED TO VOTE ON THIS DOCUMENT IN ABOUT AN HOUR.

SO PROBABLY BE BETTER IF WE TALK NOW.

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

WELL SECTION MORE ITEMS THE CONSENT WITHOUT REMOVAL OF THAT ITEM CONSENT.

SO DOES THAT MEAN YOU, I HAVE, THAT'S BEEN A COMMON PRACTICE OF, OF THIS BOARD AND THE PREVIOUS BOARD I HAVE.

AND OR YOU WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW MORE ABOUT IT.

YOU DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT IT JUST BE DONE A CONSENT AGENDA.

YOU WANT THE PUBLIC TO, TO BE MORE EXPLAINED AS TO WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON DOING.

RIGHT.

SO, SO FOR THAT SCENARIO THEN, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY REMOVE THESE ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION.

SO COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THIS MEANS? HOW YOU CAN, AFTER DISCUSSION OF THE PERCENTAGE WITHOUT TO ADD FLEXIBILITY, UM, ON THE DAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET RID OF THAT IF YOU LIKE.

I'M, I'M PERFECTLY HAPPY TO WHATEVER THE, THE LAW BOARD.

I JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND.

YEAH, I'M GET YOU, YOU'RE MAKING A GOOD POINT.

GIVE ME A SECOND HERE.

MR. HAM.

YEAH, I MAY.

SO HISTORICALLY THAT'S BEEN, BECAUSE LET'S SAY A BOARD MEMBER HAS A VERY BRIEF QUESTION SAYING, HEY, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW LIKE, IS THIS TERM FOR THIS CONTRACT GONNA BE THIS? AND THEN THE INDIVIDUAL CAN SAY, YES IT IS.

OKAY, COOL.

DONE.

SO IT'S FOR FAIRLY BRIEF QUESTIONS THAT WOULDN'T REQUIRE EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION OR, UM, ANY CLARIFICATION POINTS THAT WOULD BE BRIEF.

SO INSTEAD OF PULLING IT OFF AND THEN HAVING A SEPARATE VOTE FOR THAT ITEM, IT WOULD BE REMAINING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA JUST ANSWERING FAIRLY INNOCUOUS NONS SUBSTANTIVE QUESTIONS.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M HAPPY EITHER WAY.

I'M HAPPY TO, TO GET RID OF IT.

I, I THINK MAYBE WE OUGHT TO GET RID OF IT NOW THAT IT'S, IT'S FOCUSED ON YEAH, IT'S EASIER IF YOU PULL IT OFF THE AGENDA, MA'AM.

I THINK, YEAH, SO LET CAN DISCUSS.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND, AND SCRATCH THAT ONE OUT.

I AGREE TOO.

AND SO WE WILL, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

WE WILL GET RID OF THAT LAST SENTENCE.

AND SO WHAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU WILL NOT HAVE THAT.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL JUST THE WAY YOU'RE GOING IT, WELL YOU, YOU TAKE AWAY A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY, BUT YOU KIND OF DO IT PROBABLY THE WAY I UNDERSTAND, UM, MR. ROCKY'S POINT.

BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY BETTER IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, CUZ THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE A QUICK QUESTION WHICH THEN MIGHT CAUSE SOMEONE ELSE TO HAVE A QUESTION.

THEN YOU'VE IMMEDIATELY SNOWBALLED INTO, WELL WE JUST SHOULD HAVE TAKEN IT OFF.

SO, SO YEAH.

I, I LIKE TAKING THAT OFF.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

OKAY.

UM, THE NEXT SECTION RESPONSIBILITY ACTUALLY, SORRY, GIMME A SECOND.

I WANT TO TAB WHAT WE JUST DID SO THAT WHEN WE ACTUALLY COME TIME TO VOTE THIS, I'M GONNA POINT OUT THAT THESE, THESE SENTENCES ARE REMOVED.

SIX DASH TWO IN THE EVENT THAT ACTION OR ACTION BE NECESSARY WITHOUT CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD, THE INTERIM, THE BOARD, HE NOTIFIED HIS INTERIM, UM, THAT BOARD MEETING MEETING,

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SO IF WE WANT LOOK AT THIS, I MEAN WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, THE NORM WOULD BE IF THERE WERE SOMETHING, AN OCCASION WHERE WE WERE TAKING SOME ACTION WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE CHAIR, THAT WE WOULD NOTIFY THE OTHER MEMBERS.

SO AT THAT TIME AND WITH THE EMAIL COMMUNICATIONS AVAILABLE, WE CAN DO THAT FAIRLY QUICKLY.

AND THEN IF THERE'S A REASON ON THE PART OF THE ATTORNEY OR ANYONE TO CONFIRM THAT WE WOULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

SO I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, I THINK YOU MADE ANOTHER VERY GOOD POINT.

UH, AT THE END OF THAT NOTICE OF SUCH ACTIONS SHALL BE GIVEN TO ALL OTHER SUPERVISORS AS SOON AS PRACTICAL.

YEAH, THAT'S GOOD.

THAT, THAT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD CHANGE.

OPEN-END.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S FAIR THAT NOTICE BE PROVI.

I THINK, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PARAGRAPH TO DEAL WITH EMERGENCIES AND PROBLEMS, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT TRANSPARENCY IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE IS GOOD AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD ADDITION.

OKAY.

UM, AND THAT'S OKAY.

YEAH.

GOOD.

I LIKE YOUR SUGGESTIONS.

SO, UH, I DIDN'T SEE HERE ANYBODY OBJECT TO ANY OF THOSE.

SO THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA BE VOTED ON LATER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCEDURE TO GO TO THE CLOSED SESSION? SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE DID THE CLOSED SESSION NOW AND THEN THE PROCEDURE WOULD BE WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY NOTICED THIS AS A WORK SESSION.

SO YOU CAN HAVE A WORK SESSION AS A CLOSED SESSION AND THEN WHEN YOU ADOPT THE AGENDA LATER, YOU'RE NOT, YOU, YOU'LL ADOPT IT WITHOUT THE CLOSED SESSION CUZ WE WILL ALREADY DONE IT AND I THINK YOU CAN EASILY GET THAT DONE IN THE NEXT 40 MINUTES.

THAT'S AWESOME.

I WAS GONNA MAKE THAT SUGGESTION THAT WE, THE AGENDA SO THAT WE CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT ON THAT SIT MINUTES.

SO DO WE NEED A MOTION? UH, I THINK THE CHAIR WOULD JUST CALL THE, UH, CLOSED MEETING.

AND AGAIN, WE'VE ALREADY NOTICED IT.

SO WE'VE DONE THAT FROM FOIA PERSPECTIVE.

SO THE, THE MOTION WILL JUST COME LATER WHEN WE ADOPT THE AGENDA WHERE WE WON'T HAVE, WE WON'T BOTHER WITH THE CLOSED SESSION CUZ WE'LL DONE IT HERE.

SO WE HAVE TO READ INTO THE CLOSED SESSION.

I THINK MAYBE SOMEONE YES, WE DO.

AND SOMEONE WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO UH, UH, TO AMEND THE WORK SESSION AGENDA TO INCLUDE THE CLOSED SESSION FROM THE REGULAR MEETING AND IF SOMEONE WANTED TO SAY SO MOVE.

THAT'S SO MOVE.

OKAY.

AND THEN THERE'LL BE A SECOND.

DID YOU GET THE SECOND? OKAY.

SO THEY CAN GO OVER.

AND NOW, NOW WE'RE GONNA, SOMEONE NEEDS TO READ US INTO THE CLOSE SESSION.

I

[O. Closed Session - Virginia Freedom of Information Act]

I ALSO MOVED THE BOARD INTERIM TO A CLOSED MEETING UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION TWO TWO FOR COUNSEL, THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE AND SECTION TWO NINE CONCERNING THE AWARD PUBLIC CONTRACT INVOLVING THE PUBLIC FUNDS AND THE DISCUSSION OF THE FIRM SCOPE OF SUCH CONTRACT, SUCH DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN SESSION BARGAIN POSITION STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY REGARDING DISTRICT MORGAN COUNTY.

OKAY, IS THAT A SECOND, SIR? YES, SIR.

MR. MA.

SECOND.

MRS. OAT ALL IN FAVOR? HOLD ON.

ROLL CALL.

ROLL.

OKAY.

MRS. OATS.

AYE.

MR. MAE, MRS. COOK.

MR. BUTLER.

I ALMOST SAID MADAME CHAIR.

MRS. COLORS .

OKAY, WE ARE IN CLOSED SESSION.

THANK YOU.

AND UH,

[C. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America]

UM, I NOTICED SOME, THIS IS JUST A GESTURE OF GOODWILL AND MAYBE TO OTHERS IT'S UH, UH, AN OUTDATED AND OLD-FASHIONED NOTION TO BEGIN WITH PRAYER.

BUT ON BEHALF OF ALL THE CONGREGATIONS THAT YOU REPRESENT, UM, WE EXPRESS OUR DEEP GRATITUDE THAT WE ARE AMONG THE FEW THAT STILL HOLD TO THIS TRADITION AND TO THE BELIEF THAT GOD IS ACTUALLY GOD OF ALL.

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WE GATHER OUR HEARTS TOGETHER AND LIFT UP THIS GROUP OF MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE DECIDED TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY FIRST.

AND WE PRAY THAT AS WE LIFT THEM UP TO YOU, YOU WOULD BLESS THEM WITH YOUR FAVOR, YOUR WISDOM AND YOUR POWER, THAT YOU WOULD PROTECT THEIR FAMILIES WHILE THEY ARE AWAY SERVING OTHERS, THAT YOU WOULD GUIDE THEM INTO THE PATHS THAT WOULD BRING HOPE AND PROMISE AND PROSPERITY TO THIS COMMUNITY.

AND THAT ALL THE GLORY AND PRAISE WOULD BE YOURS.

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, SON IN THE HOLY SPIRIT.

AMEN.

AMEN.

THANK YOU REVEREND.

WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

GOOD

[D. Election of Officers]

THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS.

WE WILL SELECT CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD FOR THE YEAR 2020 3, 2 0 23.

FOR EACH OFFICE I WILL TAKE NOMINATIONS AND BOARD MEMBERS WILL VOTE ON THE NOMINATIONS IN THE ORDER THEY ARE MADE UNTIL WE HAVE A MAJORITY VOTE.

NOMINATIONS DO NOT NEED A SECOND.

AT THIS TIME I WILL ENTERTAIN NOMINATIONS FOR THE OFFICE OF CHAIRMAN.

ARE THERE NOMINATIONS, NOMINAT BOOK? ARE THERE OTHER NOMINATIONS? IS THERE A MOTION THAT THE NOMINATIONS BE CLOSED? IS THAT REQUIRE A SECOND? NO.

NO.

OKAY.

SO WE WILL VOTE ON THE MOTION TO CLOSE NOMINATIONS.

UH, IS THAT A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MRS. OATS, MR. MABE, MRS. COOK, MR. BUTLER, MRS. COLORS.

WE WILL NOW VOTE ON THE NOMINATION OF VICKI COOK TO BE THE CHAIR.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MRS. OATS.

MR. MABE? AYE.

MRS. COOK? OH, DOES SHE NEED, DO YOU NEED TO, DOES SHE NEED TO ABSTAIN? OKAY.

MRS. COOK, MR. BUTLER, MRS. COLORS, WE WILL NOW ACCEPT NOMINATIONS.

MRS. COOK IS ELECTED AS CHAIR.

WE WILL NOW ACCEPT NOMINATIONS FOR THE VICE CHAIR.

NOMINAT.

ARE THERE OTHER NOMINATIONS? IS THERE A MOTION THAT NOMINATIONS BE CLOSED? WE WILL HAVE A ROLL CALL OF THE MOTION TO CLOSE NOMINATIONS.

MRS. OATS, MR. MABE, MRS. COOK, MR. BUTLER, MRS. COLORS.

AND WE'LL NOW HAVE A ROLL CALL FOR THE VOTE OF MRS. COLORS AS THE VICE CHAIR.

MRS. OATS.

MR. MABE? AYE.

MRS. COOK, MR. BUTLER? AYE MRS. COLORS THEREFORE BEING DULY ELECTED, UH, WILL ASK YOU THE BOARD MEMBERS TO TAKE THEIR PLACES AT THE BOARD.

OKAY, I CAN GO HOME.

I'M GOING HOME.

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OKAY.

SO CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YOU'RE WELCOME.

OH, VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE WITH, UM, THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.

SO

[E. Adoption of Agenda – Additions or Deletions]

SO IS THERE ANY, UM, ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS OF OUR AGENDA? CLOSED SESSIONS.

BIG HUN.

CLOSED SESSIONS COME OFF.

YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY MADAME CHAIR, WE NEED TO REMOVE THE CLOSED SESSION BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED THAT.

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

SO, UM, DO WE HAVE, WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT.

SO, UM, MRS. OATS, WOULD YOUR MOTION BE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED WITH THE DELETION OF THE CLOSED SESSION? THAT WOULD BE CORRECT, MR. HAM.

SO, SO NOW DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

VERY GOOD.

MS. HIROKI? MR. MABE? AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MADAME CHAIR? AYE.

MRS. COLORS? .

AYE.

MR. BUTLER? AYE.

.

THANK YOU .

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO NEXT ITEM OF OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS GOING TO BE

[F. Presentation of County Employee Years of Service Awards - Jane Meadows]

AND MS. MEADOWS, YOU HAVE THE FOUR.

I'D LIKE TO ASK THE BOARD TO PLEASE COME DOWN IN FRONT OF THE DIAS.

I WOULD, EACH OF YOU JUST WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO CELEBRATE THE SERVICE AWARDS FOR THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES.

WE'LL BE DOING EACH GROUPING, UM, TO HONOR OUR FIVE YEAR, 10 YEAR, 15, 20, 25 AND RETIREES TONIGHT FROM THE YEAR 2022.

UM, SO AS YOU SEE, WE HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES HERE TONIGHT AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE ARE SOME WHO AREN'T ABLE TO BE HERE, BUT WE APPRECIATE THE TIME FOR ALL OF THEM.

NOT ONLY WORKING FOR THE COUNTY, BUT ALSO THIS EVENING.

UM, SO I'M GONNA ASK SHERIFF BUTLER TO COME UP TO THE FRONT.

WE WILL BE STARTING WITH THE FIVE YEAR AWARDS.

UM, EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD WILL PRESENT THEM TO THEIR EMPLOYEES.

WE'LL ASK THE EMPLOYEES TO WAIT OVER BY MR. DALEY.

UM, AND AT THE END WE'LL DO A LARGE GROUP PICTURE.

UM, THE FIRST EMPLOYEE IS SERGEANT JAMES BEATTY.

YEP.

NEXT WE HAVE DEPUTY BRANDON DUFFER.

MYER IS, BRANDON MAY BE WORKING.

SO WE CAN SET THAT ASIDE.

UM, AND DEPUTY DALLAS NEELY.

HEY DALLAS, I'M GONNA HAVE YOU FLIP AROUND SO ROGER CAN GET A PICTURE OF YOU.

MAYBE WE CAN.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND AXL LEBAR.

.

THANK YOU.

NOW I'M GONNA INVITE, UM, KEITH ZAO TO TAKE SHERIFF BUTLER'S SPOT.

WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK COLIN COLE TO PLEASE COME UP FRONT.

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ANDREW LOVE DOLL IS HERE, HERE TONIGHT.

I DID NOT SEE.

SO, UM, JARED LEWIS.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN ERIC SOUTHERN IS AARON, THEY'RE RUNNING AWAY FROM YOU.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UM, I AM GONNA HAVE YOU HAVE A SEAT.

WHILE I ASKED MR. BARRY TO STEP JOIN THE CROWD FOR PUBLIC WORKS, WE HAVE, UM, TRAVIS JONES CELEBRATING FIVE YEARS .

UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, JOHN TIERNEY TYRANNY AND ROBERT WAEL .

WE KNEW WE ALSO HAVE WELLBE GRAY AND ALBERT LAMBERT WHO AREN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT TONIGHT AS WELL FROM PUBLIC WORK.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

LESLIE WILLIAMS ALSO HAD HER FIVE YEAR ANNIVERSARY, UM, THIS YEAR AND SHE'S NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THIS EVENING.

DAN LANCE, CAN YOU JOIN? AND BRITTANY JOHNSON, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME ON.

THANK YOU.

MARK ROBINSON FROM BUILDINGS INSPECTIONS IS NOT AVAILABLE THIS EVENING.

HOWEVER, DAVID, IF YOU CONNECT THAT TO HIS AWARD AND FROM THE TREASURER'S OFFICE, UM, CARRIE TANNER AND SHERRY TODD AND ALSO WERE CELEBRATING THEIR FIVE YEAR AWARDS.

UM, I'D LIKE TO ASK MS. EMILY SHIRAI IF SHE COULD COME DOWN.

AWESOME, MS. SO IF I COULD GET ALL OF THE RECIPIENTS TO PLEASE COME INTO THE MIDDLE SO WE CAN GET A GROUP PHOTO, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.

THANK YOU, ROGER.

THANK YOU.

TIGHTEN UP A LITTLE MORE.

YOU GET.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S THE FIVE YEAR.

OH REALLY? COOL.

.

SO NOW WE WILL BE CELEBRATING THE 10 YEAR AWARDS.

UM, SHERIFF BUTLER, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO STEP UP AGAIN.

OKAY.

MATT GRIFFITH.

SO THE THREE, FIVE OR 10 YEAR AWARDS FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE HERE.

UM, SO WE HAVE CADE BROWN, MATTHEW GRIFFITH, AND ASHLEY WOODALL.

[00:35:08]

NOW WITH FIRE AND RESCUE DID SEE ADAM.

SO ADAM EMRY, BRIAN MEAD, I DO NOT BELIEVE IS HERE TONIGHT.

UM, BUT WE HAVE SCOTT RICHARDSON AS WELL.

THANK YOU SCOTT.

THAT'S IT FOR YOUR TEAM.

.

AND NOW MIKE? YES, MONICA IS MM-HMM.

AND MONICA, I'M NOT GONNA ATTEMPT TO MURDER YOUR LAST NAME CUZ I KNOW I WILL.

SORRY.

THERE WE GO.

AND THIS IS OUR GROUP FOR THE 10 YEARS.

SO WE'RE GONNA DO A SMALLER GROUP PICTURE.

A LITTLE EASIER ERROR .

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

NOW WE WILL BE, UM, RECOGNIZING OUR 15 YEAR RECIPIENTS, UM, FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE, UM, LIEUTENANT MICHAEL GLADYS.

IS HE HERE TONIGHT? VERY TALL.

VERY TALL.

AND WE ALSO HAVE LIEUTENANT JEREMIAH LANGER.

ALL RIGHT.

FOR FIRE AND RESCUE, WE HAVE CAPTAIN TONY MEKO, THAT'S ALL YOU.

NEIL MIKE FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

WE HAVE WILMER DIAMOND.

IS HE HERE? I THOUGHT HE WAS HERE.

NO, WILMER.

UM, WE HAVE DONALD SHACKLEFORD.

THANK YOU DONNA AND MARLENE WINES.

JOEY JOCK NORMALLY WOULD BE ABLE TO BE HERE, BUT HE IS UNFORTUNATELY SICK THIS EVENING.

BUT THIS IS OUR GROUP FOR 15 YEAR, UM, YEARS OF SERVICE.

SO IF WE COULD PLEASE GET A PICTURE.

EVERYONE SNUGGLE IN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL.

UM, NO, YOU'RE DYING.

.

SHE FOR 20 YEARS, YOU'LL NOTICE A GROUP IS GETTING SMALLER AND SMALLER.

UM, WE HAVE MISS MELISSA, HENRY MISSY.

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SHE'S NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

MISS IVY THOMPSON, MISSY, GET IN THE MIDDLE.

I SWEAR SHE STARTED WHEN SHE WAS TWO.

.

THANK YOU.

SO NOW FOR OUR 25 YEAR, OH, I CAN'T SPEAK AWARD.

MS. RENEE PEARSON .

MM, YOU ARE RENEE.

YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE.

.

THANK YOU.

AND NOW TO, UM, HONOR OUR RETIREES, WE HAVE FROM SOCIAL SERVICES, UM, MS. LINDA FUNK.

YES.

SO LINDA, LINDA WAS WITH THE COUNTY FOR 36 YEARS.

WOW.

WE HAD TWO OTHER RETIREES THIS YEAR WHO WEREN'T ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

UM, JUDY RUBY FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND ROBIN RICHARDSON FROM PARKS OF RECREATION.

UM, WE THANK ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES FURTHER DEDICATION, HARD WORK AND SERVICE.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

VERY GOOD.

AGAIN, THANK YOU EVERYONE AND CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE, UM, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED FOR THE COUNTY.

UM, SO, OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS, UM, PUBLIC

[G. Public Comment Period (60 Minute Time Limit)]

OKAY.

SO I KNOW WE'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE, BUT WE'LL SAY IT AGAIN.

SO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITIZENS TO GIVE INPUT ON ANY RELEVANT ISSUE, NOT SUBJECT TO A PUBLIC HEARING, AND IS NOT INTENDED AS A QUESTIONNAIRE ANSWER PERIOD.

THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD SHALL BE LIMITED TO 60 MINUTES, UM, WITH A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER.

SPEAKERS MAY ONLY SPEAK ONCE AND WILL BE HEARD IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY HAVE SIGNED UP.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START.

AND, UM,

[00:45:01]

MADAME CHAIR, JOHN LUNDBERG.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, JOHN.

THANK YOU, SIR.

YEP.

MY NAME IS JOHN LUNDBERG.

I LIVE IN FRONT ROYAL.

I WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON DATA CENTERS IN WARREN COUNTY.

ON OCTOBER 25TH, THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HEARD PUBLIC COMMENTS ON A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION FROM WARREN COUNTY, LED BY MR. MATT WENLING TO DO THE FOLLOWING, ONE, ADD A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO THE WARREN COUNTY CODE.

TWO, DEFINE WHAT A DATA CENTER IS.

THREE, ALLOW DATA CENTERS TO BE BUILT WITH A BY RIGHT PERMIT IN EITHER THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE OR THIS NEW LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE.

THEY WANTED CO TO BE CREATED.

AND FOUR, AS SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS TO THE COUNTY CODE ON DATA CENTERS.

SEVERAL LOCAL CITIZENS SPOKE THAT NIGHT CLEARLY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY SAID NOT TO APPROVE ANY CHANGES TO THE COUNTY CODE, WHICH WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF DATA CENTERS UNTIL MUCH MORE RESEARCH HAD BEEN DONE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THAT TIME, THE PUBLIC WOULD BE PROVIDED WITH DETAILED ANSWERS TO COMPLICATED QUESTIONS RAISED AT THE GEN OCTOBER 25TH MEETING.

THE CLEAR EXPECTATION AT THAT TIME WAS THIS WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE DATA CENTER ISSUE WAS PLACED AGAIN ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR'S AGENDA.

THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED.

ALL THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, LED BY MR. WENLING HAS DONE SINCE THE OCTOBER 25TH MEETING IS PROVIDE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH NINE WEBSITES CONTAINING DATA CENTER DATA.

MR. WENLING STATED THAT HE HOPED THAT THE BOARD WOULD FIND THE INFORMATION INTERESTING AND HELPFUL BEFORE THEY MAKE A FINAL DECISION.

MR. WENLING, THE JOB OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS MUCH MORE THAN PROVIDING DATA TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

YOUR WEBSITE ITSELF SAYS THAT YOU ARE QUOTE THE PRIMARY ADVISOR TO THE BOARD ON ISSUES COMING BEFORE THEM, PARTICULARLY ON COMPLICATED ISSUES REQUIRING COMPLICATED, REQUIRING DETAILED RESEARCH.

WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON DATA CENTERS? DO YOU WANT THEM BUILT IN WARREN COUNTY? IF SO, WHERE AND UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS? MANY SPEAKERS AT THE OCTOBER 25TH MEETING WERE APPALLED THAT YOUR COMMISSION RECOMMENDED UNANIMOUSLY TO THE BOARD THAT, AS I STATED YOU EARLIER, A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT BE ADDED TO THE COUNTY CODE.

AND TWO DATA CENTERS BE BUILT WITH BY RIGHT PERMIT.

AND MOST PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS WITH LITTLE, IF ANY EVIDENCE TO BACK THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ME, APPARENTLY WANTS THE PUBLIC AND THE BOARD BOARD MEMBERS THEMSELVES, YOU ALL SITTING BEFORE US THIS EVENING TO DO THEIR WORK.

YOU, THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPARENTLY WANTS YOU ALL AND THE PUBLIC TO EVALUATE ALL THIS RAW DATA AND THEN COME UP WITH YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.

BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

MY RECOMMENDATION YOU TONIGHT IS TO SEND THE PLANNING COMMISSION BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARDS DEMAND THAT THEY AT LONG LAST ONE, DO THE RESEARCH ON THIS ISSUE.

TWO, ANSWER THE QUESTIONS, THE PUBLIC A ANSWER THE QUESTIONS OF THE PUBLIC ASKED AT THE OCTOBER 25TH MEETING.

AND THREE, COME BACK TO YOU WITH A SIMPLE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAN BE ANSWERED WITH A YES OR NO ANSWER.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

YOU CAN TURN 'EM DOWN, YOU CAN AGREE WITH THEM.

YOU CAN SAY WE NEED MORE DEBT OR WHATEVER IT IS.

BUT COME BACK WITH A SIMPLE RECOMMENDATION.

THAT'S BASICALLY HOW THE US MILITARY AND THE TITANS OF AMERICAN INDUSTRY MAKE DECISIONS.

THEY, THEY, UH, SELECT A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT.

THEY PUT 'EM IN, THEY HAVE HIM DO THE RESEARCH.

THEY COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY CAN APPROVE OR DISPROVE.

UM, MR. LAMB, I, I'M SORRY THAT THE THREE MINUTES ARE UP.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING.

THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING.

SO DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE? THERE'S NOBODY ELSE WHO SIGNED UP.

MADAM CHAIR.

OKAY.

SO, UM, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK? ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU.

THANKS LINDA.

THANK YOU LINDA.

[00:50:06]

AND I CAME IN TO, UH, PUT THIS INTO THE OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS FROM THE BOARD OF SHENANDOAH FARMS THAT SENT OUT ANOTHER, UH, NEWSLETTER, CALLING THE TROOPS TOGETHER.

UM, BECAUSE P O S FFA IS ITS OWN PRIVATE CORPORATION AND, UM, HAS BEEN RUNNING ON OUR MONEY FROM THE SANITARY DISTRICT, WHICH I BELIEVE HAS BEEN ILLEGAL ALL THESE YEARS.

I DO BELIEVE THAT, UH, IN 96 WHEN THE, UM, JUDGE MADE THAT WE COULD BECOME A SANITARY DISTRICT, THAT THE JUDGE TOOK OUT THE COMMON PROPERTIES OF P O S F INC.

AND IT WAS ONLY THE, UM, THE WARREN COUNTY RESIDENCE THAT WERE PUT INTO THIS NOTHING TO DO WITH P O S F INC.

BECAUSE THEIR PROPERTIES WERE TAKEN OUT.

AND THEN IT WAS IN 97 WHEN THEY CONTRACTED WITH THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, PO F DEPUTY INC.

IT WAS THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, THE PREVIOUS, AT THE TIME, UM, THAT MADE THE DECISION THAT, UM, THAT MONEY NEEDED TO BE PAID FOR THIS PRIVATE CORPORATION, WHICH I AM AND DO LIVE IN SHENANDOAH FARMS. UM, BUT THERE'S JUST SO MUCH IN THIS, UH, NEWSLETTER THAT'S JUST SO FULL OF LIVES.

OH, BOOHOO.

THEY HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN THEIR COMMON PROPERTIES.

THEY NEED TO GET THEMSELVES TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT A WAY BECAUSE OF COURSE THERE'S, UM, MEMBERSHIP BECAUSE MEMBERSHIP IS NOT MANDATORY.

SO THEY COULD GO OUT AND REALLY DO A THING AND REALLY TRY TO GET MEMBERSHIP AND GET PEOPLE TO BE PAYING MEMBERSHIP, BUT THEY'D RATHER SIT ON THEIR HANDS AND TAKE OUR TAX, OUR SANITARY DISTRICT FUNDS AND WHY AND CRY ABOUT IT.

UM, BUT I WAS JUST, AND EVEN IN THIS NEWSLETTER HERE, EVEN FROM THE LAWYER WHO SENT THE LETTER IN, NOT ADVISING YOU, BUT JUST TELLING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ABOUT THIS, UM, THAT THEY ADMIT THROUGH THE LETTER THAT THEY ARE THEIR OWN PRIVATE CORPORATION.

THAT OUR SANITARY DISTRICT MONEY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR CORPORATION.

AND, UM, I, I REALLY LIKE THE TRANSPARENCY CUZ I'VE BEEN COMING DOWN HERE A LONG TIME AND I REALLY DO LOVE THE TRANSPARENCY.

BUT WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY, YOU CAN'T HAVE TRANSPARENCY.

AND WE NEED TO HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE THAT ARE PUTTING THINGS OUT THAT IS NOT TRUE.

IT'S NOT TRUE.

AND THE WAY THEY GO OUT AND CONTACT NEW PEOPLE, EXCUSE ME, NEW PEOPLE THAT HAVE MOVED THERE AND EVERYTHING AND GET 'EM ALL RILED UP, IT'S LIKE, WHOA, WAIT A MINUTE.

HOLD THE HORSES, DO YOUR HOMEWORK.

UM, IT'S NOT REALLY THAT HARD, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.

YOU TOO.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

MADAM CHAIR, CAN I ASK A REAL QUICK QUESTION, MISS, I, I JUST WANTED TO FIND OUT, AND, AND I'M CURIOUS, I'M NOT ASKING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT OR ANYTHING, BUT, UH, I KNOW THAT, UH, MEMBERSHIP OF P O S F IS VOLUNTARY.

IS THERE A REASON THAT THAT FOLKS CANNOT? UM, I'M, I, I'M, I'M SORRY.

UM, BUT, UH, THIS IS A, UM, PUBLIC CAN'T ANSWER PERIOD, SPEAKER IN.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

WE DON'T ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY DISCUSSIONS.

OKAY.

SO I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU MR. BUTNER.

NOT A PROBLEM.

I AM SO SORRY.

SO, UM, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK? OKAY, THIS WILL BE THE FINAL CALL AGAIN, IS ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK.

VERY GOOD.

WELL, PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS CLOSED.

OH, I'M SORRY, MA'AM.

I, I APOLOGIZE.

JUST TIRED.

UM, EILEEN HILLARY AND I AM, I LIVE HERE IN WARREN COUNTY, UM, IN CDO SHORES.

UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO SUPPORT WHAT JOHN HAD SAID ABOUT GOING FORWARD WITH APPROVING ANY REZONING WHEN WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE APPROVING IT FOR OR WHAT WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH REGARD TO THESE DATA CENTERS.

AND I THINK IT IS, UM, IRRESPONSIBLE AND WILL POSSIBLY EVEN WOULD BRING ABOUT A BLIGHT ON OUR BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY TO MOVE AHEAD WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITHOUT REALLY FULLY INVESTIGATING IT.

AND I AGREE WITH HIM THAT IT'S NOT YOUR JOB,

[00:55:01]

SO I HOPE THAT YOU'LL TABLE THAT, UM, UNFINISHED BUSINESS AND PUT IT OFF FOR ANOTHER TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

SO IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO, TO COME AND SPEAK? OKAY, THIS WILL BE THE FINAL CALL.

AND ONCE AGAIN, OKAY, SO, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT IS, IS CLOSED.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE GONNA BE MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM.

IT'S, UH, UH,

[H. Report from the Virginia Department of Transportation - Ed Carter]

AND MR. CARTER.

IS HE, MR. CARTER WAS HERE THIS MORNING AT NINE O'CLOCK, MA'AM.

OH, .

HE DID GIVE YOU A COPY OF HIS REPORT.

DID EVERYONE GET A COPY? OKAY.

DID EVERYONE GET A COPY OF, UM, VIDOS REPORT? YEAH, THAT SHOULD HAVE, YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THAT ELECTRONICALLY WHEN I TRIED TO OPEN MINE.

IT'S JUST SMALL BOXES.

THERE'S NO WORDS.

WE'LL SEND YOU ANOTHER COPY TOMORROW.

YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY IT'S NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, A BIG DEAL, BUT THAT'S THE WAY MINE CAME.

HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.

YOU'RE NOT ALONE.

.

WE CAN SEND ANOTHER ONE.

YEAH, IT'S CORRUPTED .

OKAY.

SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR, UM, OR DISCUSSIONS ON VDOT, UM, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH, UM,

[I. Reports – Board Members, County Administrator, County Attorney]

SO, UM, I GUESS WE'LL START WITH MR. BUTLER.

UH, MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE NO REPORT AT THIS TIME.

OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. KOHLERS.

I JUST WANNA THANK ALL OF OUR STAFF, UH, AND, AND MICHAEL COEL FOR THE GREAT JOB THEY DID DURING THE, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU LIVE IN WARREN COUNTY, IT COULD HAVE BEEN RAIN, IT COULD HAVE BEEN SNOW, ICE, ALL THREE.

UM, SO APPRECIATE THE UPDATES THAT YOU GAVE US, UH, TO KEEP US AWARE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT, UM, HAD TO WORK DURING THAT EVENT.

AND, UM, ALSO, UM, THE CONVENIENCE SITES, GUYS THAT WORK CHRISTMAS DAY, UM, I WISH WE COULD, UM, CLOSE THOSE SITES AND EVERYBODY KEEP THEIR TRASH AT HOME FOR ONE DAY, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT PILES UP AND THE GUYS AT THE SITE WOULD RATHER WORK THAN DEAL WITH A MESS THE NEXT DAY.

BUT I DO APPRECIATE THAT THEY, THEY WORKED THAT ON CHRISTMAS DAY.

AND, UM, I ATTENDED WANDA BRYANT, WHO WAS OUR TREASURER FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, AND JUST A WONDERFUL WOMAN, CHRISTIAN WOMAN HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

HER FUNERAL TODAY ON THE BEHALF OF THE BOARD.

UM, SHE WAS ALSO ARCHIE FOXER, PREVIOUS SUPERVISOR'S SISTER.

AND IT WAS, UM, JUST A BLESSING TO BE ABLE TO BE THERE WITH HER FAMILY.

AND THEY APPRECIATED EVERYONE THAT WENT.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU MS. OATS.

YEAH, I, UM, SO WE WERE NOTIFIED TODAY, I'LL START FIRST.

HAPPY NEW YEAR.

UM, WE WERE NOTIFIED TODAY WITH GREAT SADNESS THAT DANA FOGEL HAS PASSED AWAY.

SHE'S AN EMPLOYEE.

UM, SHE WAS ALSO A CLASSMATE OF MINE IN SCHOOL.

AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO SEND OUR, OUR PRAYERS, OUR CONDOLENCES TO HER HUSBAND RAY.

AND, UM, HER SERVICE IS GONNA BE HELD ON TUESDAY.

DANA, UM, IF ANYBODY, IF ANY OF YOU KNEW HER, SHE'S JUST A NOT BIGGER IN A MINUTE AND JUST AS SPUNKY, POWERFUL LITTLE, UM, LITTLE GAL.

AND, AND SHE WILL JUST BE GREATLY MISSED.

SHE WAS SUCH AN ENERGY SOURCE INTO THE COMMUNITY.

SO I WANTED TO NOTE THAT.

AND THEN I ALSO JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UM, ENTERING 2023, UM, THIS IS MY LAST YEAR ON THE BOARD, AND IT SEEMS CRAZY TO ME THAT IT HAS FLOWN BY THIS FAST.

I, UM, WAS ELECTED IN 2019 AND, UM, BEGAN IN THE CRAZY, CRAZY TIME OF 2020, UM, WITH COVID.

BUT IT HAS BEEN THE GREATEST HONOR, UM, OF MY LIFE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE THAT I LOVE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

I'M GONNA GO OUT WITH A BANG.

AND, UH, SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW I'M SEEKING TO, TO, UH, SERVE US IN A DIFFERENT WAY, UM, NEXT YEAR IN RICHMOND.

BUT FOR NOW, UM, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE WONDERFUL COMMUNITY OF WARREN COUNTY FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE ON THIS BOARD TO SERVE YOU, UM, IN I HOPE AN HONORABLE WAY.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL MISS YOU .

WE GOT A YEAR TO

[01:00:01]

HUH? DON'T LEAVE YET.

NO, BUT IT IS, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST SO SURREAL THAT IT'S MY LAST YEAR ON THIS BOARD.

IT JUST SEEMS SURREAL TO ME.

NICE.

WHEN YOU'RE HAVING FUN.

.

YEAH, IT'S BEEN FUN.

BEEN REAL.

UH, SO MR. UH, MABE, UM, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COMMUNITY, UH, THANK WARREN COUNTY.

UM, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH LOTS OF STUFF IN THE LAST THREE YEARS TOGETHER.

UH, AND THIS CHRISTMAS AND THIS NEW YEAR'S REMINDS ME OF, UM, JUST THE ABILITY AND THE FORESIGHT OF PEOPLE THAT, UH, THAT WANT TO HELP THE COMMUNITY.

AND, UH, THIS BOARD IS GONNA BE DOING THAT AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

AND I THINK THAT, UM, WITHOUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU, THE PEOPLE THAT COME UP AND SAY, HEY, I'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH THIS, OR, UH, I WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING.

WE DON'T GET THINGS DONE AS QUICKLY AS WE SHOULD, BUT WE'RE, WE CANNOT PLEASE ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME, BUT WE CAN PLEASE MOST OF THE PEOPLE MOST OF THE TIME.

BUT, UM, I, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS.

UM, MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERY ONE OF YOU.