Jan 03, 2023 Board of Supervisors Meeting

SO, OR YOU CAN READ IT RIGHT THERE.

WELL, YOU MIGHT WANT TO READ THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT, BUT, UM, YEP.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BUNCH OF TRACK CHANGES.

IT'S LEY WRITING IN THERE, ET CETERA.

BUT BASICALLY THERE'S THREE PRIMARY CHANGES.

AND THE FIRST ONE IS THAT WE ARE MOVING THE, UH, REGULAR, THE SECOND, UH, THE REGULAR MEETING FROM 9:00 AM TO 7:00 PM SO ALL OUR MEETINGS WILL BE 7:00 PM AND SO THAT REQUIRED VARIOUS CHANGES THROUGH YOUR RULES.

NEXT CHANGE IS, UH, TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL THIRD REGULAR MEETING ON THE FOURTH TUESDAY FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO ONLY BE FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

AND SO THE, AND I DO WANNA POINT THIS OUT IN SECTION THREE DASH ONE, BECAUSE IT IS A REGULAR MEETING, YOU COULD TECHNICALLY DO ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO AT THAT MEETING.

AND THAT'S NOT THE INTENT OF IT.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO JUST BE FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

SO THE RULE, SO THE CURRENT PROPOSED RULE PROVIDES THAT THE ONLY ITEMS OF BUSINESS WILL BE PUBLIC HEARINGS UNLESS ALL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, NOT JUST THOSE PRESENT CONSENT TO ADD ITEMS. SO YOU GOTTA BE UNANIMOUS OF EVERYBODY NOT JUST THERE, UH, TO DO THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE REASON ALSO FOR THAT IS, IS THAT I'M NOT GONNA BE THERE FOR THAT, CUZ THAT CONFLICTS DIRECTLY WITH SHENANDOAH COUNTY'S MEETINGS.

UM, BUT IF, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING DOES COME UP, THEN THERE'LL BE SOME ADVANCED NOTICE OF IT.

CUZ THERE'LL HAVE TO BE CONSENT OF EVERYBODY, UH, BEFORE THAT HAPPENS.

AND I MIGHT INTERRUPT IF, IF THERE ARE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS NECESSARY, THAT MEETING IS CANCELED.

THIS IS JUST FOR ALL THOSE SHORT TERM RENTALS IN THAT.

WELL, THERE'S MONDAY AND THERE'S WEDNESDAY AND THERE'S THURSDAY.

SO, UM, PRIMARY CHANGE NUMBER THREE, THIS IS A, A REWRITE OF THE ELECTRONIC MEETING, UM, RULES.

SO BASICALLY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, THIS IS PART OF VIRGINIA FREEDOM INFORMATION ACT, AND THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ALWAYS TINKERS WITH THIS.

AND SO THEY ACTUALLY REPEALED THE EXISTING CODE SECTION THAT AUTHORIZED IT AND REENACTED A NEW CODE SECTION.

IT REALLY ISN'T ALL THAT DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY DOING, BUT IT DOES HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE TO IT.

UM, WHERE BASICALLY IT ADDS FAMILY MEMBER CARE AND DISTANCE MORE THAN 60 MILES TO THE LIST OF REASONS WHY YOU CAN, UH, USE ELECTRONIC PARTICIPATION.

AND IT MAKES EXPLICIT THAT YOU ONLY NEED TO PROVIDE A GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF YOUR REMOTE LOCATION INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, I AM AT 1 23 ABC STREET, ET CETERA.

UH, WHICH, WHICH ARE GOOD, UH, CHANGES AND VARIOUS OTHER LITTLE CHANGES TO IT.

SO IT, IT LOOKS A LOT, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF RED THERE, BUT BASICALLY IT'S IDENTICAL, UM, PROCEDURE THAN, THAN WHAT YOU DID LAST TIME.

SLIGHTLY BROADER AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE NEW STATE LAW.

SO JASON, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, DOES THIS SPECIFICALLY APPLY JUST TO MEETINGS OR DOES IT ALSO APPLY TO WORK SESSIONS? UM, BECAUSE IT, IT ONLY SPEAKS THE LANGUAGE OF MEETINGS.

AND THAT'S IN A, THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT.

THE REASON I'M ASKING IS I'M LEAVING TOWN NEXT WEEK, AND I WON'T BE HERE FOR THE WORK SESSION, BUT I COULD PARTICIPATE ELECTRONICALLY.

BUT IT DIDN'T SAY THAT THAT WAS AN OPTION FOR A WORK SESSION.

ISN'T A WORK SESSION AN MAIN INFORMED MEETING? YEAH, I THINK A WORK SESSION IS A MEETING OF THE BOARD.

SO YES, YOU CAN DO THAT.

AND, UM, AND YOU MIGHT HEAR TOO ABOUT THAT BODIES OTHER THAN LOCALITIES, LIKE YOUR IDA FOR EXAMPLE, TWICE PER YEAR CAN HAVE AN ALL VIRTUAL MEETING.

RIGHT.

UM, AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE TEST BALLOON FOR SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE.

LOCALITIES MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT TOO, BUT THAT HASN'T HAPPENED YET.

SO THOSE ARE THE ACTUAL PRIMARY CHANGES.

UM, SINCE WE FIDDLE WITH SO MUCH, I SORT OF WENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT AND EMILY DID TOO, AND, UM, CHANGED SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE TO, UH, MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IT REALLY IS.

IT'S A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT INSTEAD OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SOME CAPITALIZATIONS, UM, THERE IN, AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE OTHER MISCELLANEOUS CHANGES, UM, THAT I THINK ARE REALLY NOT ALL THAT POLICY INTERESTING, FRANKLY,

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AND THEN OF COURSE FIVE DASH FOUR, YOU'VE GOT THE CIVIC PLUS NOW.

SO REFERENCE TO EXTRA COPIES BEING AVAILABLE IS NOT, DOESN'T REALLY MATTER ANYMORE.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, UH, WHERE, WHERE WE, WHERE YOU, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE THREE MINUTE LIFT MM-HMM.

, SHOULD THAT BE APPLIED FOR EVERYONE? THE REASON I'M ASKING IS CAUSE YOU MAY HAVE SOMEONE WHO COMES UP AND SAYS, OH, FIVE MINUTES, THE BOARD HEAR WHAT SAYS SPOKE FOR.

I MEAN, IS THAT ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF WE ENFORCE THE LAW THAT WE ENFORCE Y YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

WE SHOULD DO THAT.

NOW, OF COURSE THERE'S CIRCUMSTANCES.

SOMEBODY'S TALKING ABOUT THEIR, YOU KNOW, UH, RELATIVE WHO'S DIED IN THE, IN THE CHAIR WANTS TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT, ET CETERA.

AND SO THERE'S THIS, BUT YES, YOU SHOULD.

AND YOU KNOW, I I SAY THREE MINUTES, GETTYSBURG ADDRESS WAS LESS THAN THREE MINUTES.

YOU CAN MAKE YOUR POINT IN THREE MINUTES.

AND ONE OF THOSE OTHER CHANGES I WAS ABOUT TO GET TO IS THAT I DID PUT THE THREE MINUTES INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING GUIDELINES AS WELL.

AND THE PERSONS THAT IT WOULD NOT APPLY TO WOULD BE THE ACTUAL APPLICANT THEMSELVES.

BECAUSE YOU CAN IMAGINE IF THEY'VE GOT SOME COMPLICATED PERMIT THAT THEY WANT TO GET OR REZONING, ET CETERA, OR THEY'VE GOT THEIR ENGINEER AND THEIR LAWYER HERE, THEY'RE GONNA NEED MORE THAN THREE MINUTES AND THEY'VE GOT SOME PROPERTY RIGHTS AT ISSUE.

SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THEY'RE GONNA GET SOME MORE TIME.

BUT THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT IT BUILT IN THEIR BACKYARD OR HAVE SOME OTHER CONCERN THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THEIR THEIR THREE MINUTES.

AND SO I MADE THAT EXPLICIT, UM, BEFORE IT SAID THAT BASICALLY THE TIME ALLOWED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WOULD BE DECIDED BY THE CHAIR.

AND I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, I YOU ALWAYS SORT OF THINK ABOUT WHAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IF YOU, IF YOU HAD A CHAIRPERSON IS, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO KILL THIS PROJECT SO I'M ON A FILIBUSTER, YOU HAVE 10,000 MINUTES, YOU KNOW, YOU AND THERE'S EXTREME, THERE'S NO NOBODY SITTING IN THIS ROOM THAT WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT YOU TRY TO FUTUREPROOF EVERYTHING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

AND SO I I PUT THAT IN FOR THREE MINUTES AS WELL.

I THINK THAT IN THE PAST, HISTORICALLY THAT'S BEEN IMPLIED ANYWAY, MAYBE IMPLIED THERE'S AN EXPLICIT, BUT IT'S BEEN IMPLIED IN THE PAST THAT WE WOULD'VE, THAT ANYONE SPEAKING AT A PUBLIC HEARING HAS THREE BENEFIT.

IT'S A PUBLIC COMMENT.

PERHAPS IT'S IMPLIED, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE RULES WHEN I PUT IT IN THERE.

SO YEAH, NO, I LIKE THAT IT'S EXPLICIT.

BUT THE PERSON PRESENTED IT DOESN'T APPLY TO THAT.

NO, BECAUSE CAUSE BASICALLY IT'S A PRESENTATION FOR THAT.

YEAH, IT'S A PRESENTATION AND IT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME BIG MONEY AT ISSUE.

YOU GOT SOMEBODY THAT'S GOT A 60 ACRE PARCEL AND YOU'RE GONNA LET 'EM DO IT OR NOT.

I MEAN, THERE'S POTENTIALLY MILLIONS AT STAKE.

THEY NEED TO HAVE THEIR TIME MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT.

I WOULD SUGGEST YOU DIDN'T, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU DID NOT.

THEY DON'T, THEY GET, THEY GET THE TIME THAT, THAT THEY NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.

THE THREE MINUTE LIMIT JUST FOR, UM, PUBLIC, I THINK IT WOULD, THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, THEIR, YOUR RULES DON'T SAY YOU HAVE TO READ ANYBODY'S EMAILS.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, IF WE ELECTED TO, YEAH, I THINK THAT IT WOULD.

WELL CUZ OUR RULES DON'T SAY WE HAVE TO READ PEOPLE'S EMAILS AND I'M NOT SURE THAT'S A GOOD PRACTICE, FRANKLY.

UM, BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, PEOPLE CAN BE A LOT NASTIER WITH EMAILS.

YOU CAN SEND A LONG RAMBLY THING, YOU COULD BE NASTY ABOUT IT.

YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU DO? ARE YOU GONNA CENSOR IT AND NOT READ THE PARTS THAT WOULD BE NOT IN COMPLIANT WITH OUR RULE? THAT REALLY MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE.

SO I, I'D PREFER THAT YOU DIDN'T READ EMAILS FROM PEOPLE.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAD SOMEBODY THAT REALLY WANTED TO MAKE COMMENTS AND COULDN'T A SUPERVISOR COULD, YOU KNOW, CARRY THAT WATER FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL, YOU KNOW, I HEARD FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO WANTED ME TO SAY, AH, I MEAN, THAT'S FINE.

ANY ONE OF YOU CAN DO THAT.

THAT WOULD BE THE MORE APPROPRIATE WAY TO DO THAT.

OR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PERSON TRIES TO COME OR, YOU KNOW, THEY SEND A FRIEND, NEIGHBOR, WHATEVER THEIR SPOUSE IF THEY'RE MARRIED, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER IT WORKS.

I THINK THAT, UM, READING BECAME A PRACTICE DURING THE PANDEMIC WHEN PEOPLE WERE NOT ABLE TO COME IN AND SPEAK IN PERSON.

SO WE TRIED TO ACCOMMODATE PUBLIC SPEAKING AND HONORED THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS IN THAT WAY.

BUT IT DIDN'T, HAS NEVER BEEN AN EXPLICIT LIFE OF SOMEBODY TO, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE IT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

WE ABSOLUTELY, WE DID.

WE'VE BEEN OVER BACKWARDS ON THAT.

WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, SET UP SITUATIONS WHERE YOU COULD CALL IN OR WEB IN ET CETERA.

BUT YEAH, THAT WAS A, YOU KNOW, HAPPENS EVERY HUNDRED YEARS SO NOBODY WILL BE AROUND TO DEAL WITH THE NEXT ONE.

BUT YEAH.

, THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THAT.

UM,

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ALRIGHT, WELL WE ALREADY GOT INTO QUESTIONS, BUT THAT'S MY PRESENTATION QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DOCUMENT.

UH, MEANS IT'S PRETTY, IT HAS A LOT OF RED LINES, BUT IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME DOCUMENTS YOU'VE HAD EVERY BEFORE.

AGAIN, THE SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES ARE THE THREE PRIMARY CHANGES THAT I THINK YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT.

WELL THIS IS THE TIME, THE FIRST TIME I, SO, UM, SO THERE WAS A COUPLE THINGS.

WELL IF YOU, IF YOU WANNA DO THAT PRIVATELY, YOU'RE WELCOME TO, BUT THIS IS, WE'VE ALLOCATED TIME TO DO THAT.

AND YOU'RE GONNA BE ASKED TO VOTE ON THIS DOCUMENT IN ABOUT AN HOUR.

SO PROBABLY BE BETTER IF WE TALK NOW.

WELL SECTION MORE ITEMS THE CONSENT WITHOUT REMOVAL OF THAT ITEM CONSENT.

SO DOES THAT MEAN YOU, I HAVE, THAT'S BEEN A COMMON PRACTICE OF, OF THIS BOARD AND THE PREVIOUS BOARD I HAVE.

AND OR YOU WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW MORE ABOUT IT.

YOU DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT IT JUST BE DONE A CONSENT AGENDA.

YOU WANT THE PUBLIC TO, TO BE MORE EXPLAINED AS TO WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON DOING.

RIGHT.

SO, SO FOR THAT SCENARIO THEN, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY REMOVE THESE ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION.

SO COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THIS MEANS? HOW YOU CAN, AFTER DISCUSSION OF THE PERCENTAGE WITHOUT TO ADD FLEXIBILITY, UM, ON THE DAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET RID OF THAT IF YOU LIKE.

I'M, I'M PERFECTLY HAPPY TO WHATEVER THE, THE LAW BOARD.

I JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND.

YEAH, I'M GET YOU, YOU'RE MAKING A GOOD POINT.

GIVE ME A SECOND HERE.

MR. HAM.

YEAH, I MAY.

SO HISTORICALLY THAT'S BEEN, BECAUSE LET'S SAY A BOARD MEMBER HAS A VERY BRIEF QUESTION SAYING, HEY, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW LIKE, IS THIS TERM FOR THIS CONTRACT GONNA BE THIS? AND THEN THE INDIVIDUAL CAN SAY, YES IT IS.

OKAY, COOL.

DONE.

SO IT'S FOR FAIRLY BRIEF QUESTIONS THAT WOULDN'T REQUIRE EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION OR, UM, ANY CLARIFICATION POINTS THAT WOULD BE BRIEF.

SO INSTEAD OF PULLING IT OFF AND THEN HAVING A SEPARATE VOTE FOR THAT ITEM, IT WOULD BE REMAINING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA JUST ANSWERING FAIRLY INNOCUOUS NONS SUBSTANTIVE QUESTIONS.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M HAPPY EITHER WAY.

I'M HAPPY TO, TO GET RID OF IT.

I, I THINK MAYBE WE OUGHT TO GET RID OF IT NOW THAT IT'S, IT'S FOCUSED ON YEAH, IT'S EASIER IF YOU PULL IT OFF THE AGENDA, MA'AM.

I THINK, YEAH, SO LET CAN DISCUSS.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND, AND SCRATCH THAT ONE OUT.

I AGREE TOO.

AND SO WE WILL, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

WE WILL GET RID OF THAT LAST SENTENCE.

AND SO WHAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU WILL NOT HAVE THAT.

SO WE'LL JUST THE WAY YOU'RE GOING IT, WELL YOU, YOU TAKE AWAY A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY, BUT YOU KIND OF DO IT PROBABLY THE WAY I UNDERSTAND, UM, MR. ROCKY'S POINT.

BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY BETTER IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, CUZ THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE A QUICK QUESTION WHICH THEN MIGHT CAUSE SOMEONE ELSE TO HAVE A QUESTION.

THEN YOU'VE IMMEDIATELY SNOWBALLED INTO, WELL WE JUST SHOULD HAVE TAKEN IT OFF.

SO, SO YEAH.

I, I LIKE TAKING THAT OFF.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

WE DID THIS INTERIM AUTHORIZATION.

UM, THE NEXT SECTION RESPONSIBILITY ACTUALLY, SORRY, GIMME A SECOND.

I WANT TO TAB WHAT WE JUST DID SO THAT WHEN WE ACTUALLY COME TIME TO VOTE THIS, I'M GONNA POINT OUT THAT THESE, THESE SENTENCES ARE REMOVED.

SIX DASH TWO IN THE EVENT THAT ACTION OR ACTION BE NECESSARY WITHOUT CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD, THE INTERIM, THE BOARD, HE NOTIFIED HIS INTERIM, UM, THAT BOARD MEETING MEETING,

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SO IF WE WANT LOOK AT THIS, I MEAN WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, THE NORM WOULD BE IF THERE WERE SOMETHING, AN OCCASION WHERE WE WERE TAKING SOME ACTION WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE CHAIR, THAT WE WOULD NOTIFY THE OTHER MEMBERS.

SO AT THAT TIME AND WITH THE EMAIL COMMUNICATIONS AVAILABLE, WE CAN DO THAT FAIRLY QUICKLY.

AND THEN IF THERE'S A REASON ON THE PART OF THE ATTORNEY OR ANYONE TO CONFIRM THAT WE WOULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

SO I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, I THINK YOU MADE ANOTHER VERY GOOD POINT.

UH, AT THE END OF THAT NOTICE OF SUCH ACTIONS SHALL BE GIVEN TO ALL OTHER SUPERVISORS AS SOON AS PRACTICAL.

YEAH, THAT'S GOOD.

THAT, THAT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD CHANGE.

OPEN-END.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S FAIR THAT NOTICE BE PROVI.

I THINK, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PARAGRAPH TO DEAL WITH EMERGENCIES AND PROBLEMS, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT TRANSPARENCY IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE IS GOOD AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD ADDITION.

I LIKE YOUR SUGGESTIONS.

SO, UH, I DIDN'T SEE HERE ANYBODY OBJECT TO ANY OF THOSE.

SO THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA BE VOTED ON LATER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCEDURE TO GO TO THE CLOSED SESSION? SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE DID THE CLOSED SESSION NOW AND THEN THE PROCEDURE WOULD BE WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY NOTICED THIS AS A WORK SESSION.

SO YOU CAN HAVE A WORK SESSION AS A CLOSED SESSION AND THEN WHEN YOU ADOPT THE AGENDA LATER, YOU'RE NOT, YOU, YOU'LL ADOPT IT WITHOUT THE CLOSED SESSION CUZ WE WILL ALREADY DONE IT AND I THINK YOU CAN EASILY GET THAT DONE IN THE NEXT 40 MINUTES.

THAT'S AWESOME.

I WAS GONNA MAKE THAT SUGGESTION THAT WE, THE AGENDA SO THAT WE CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT ON THAT SIT MINUTES.

SO DO WE NEED A MOTION? UH, I THINK THE CHAIR WOULD JUST CALL THE, UH, CLOSED MEETING.

AND AGAIN, WE'VE ALREADY NOTICED IT.

SO WE'VE DONE THAT FROM FOIA PERSPECTIVE.

SO THE, THE MOTION WILL JUST COME LATER WHEN WE ADOPT THE AGENDA WHERE WE WON'T HAVE, WE WON'T BOTHER WITH THE CLOSED SESSION CUZ WE'LL DONE IT HERE.

SO WE HAVE TO READ INTO THE CLOSED SESSION.

I THINK MAYBE SOMEONE YES, WE DO.

AND SOMEONE WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO UH, UH, TO AMEND THE WORK SESSION AGENDA TO INCLUDE THE CLOSED SESSION FROM THE REGULAR MEETING AND IF SOMEONE WANTED TO SAY SO MOVE.

THAT'S SO MOVE.

MOVE THE BOARD MEETING UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION TWO TWO A1, FREEDOM OF INFORMATION, THE DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ASSIGNMENT OFFICER OF THE PUBLIC BODY, SPECIFICALLY IN REGARD TO THE LAUREL RIDGE COMMUNITY COLLEGE BOARD AND THE SOCIAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD.

AND THEN THERE'LL BE A SECOND.

DID YOU GET THE SECOND? OKAY.

SO THEY CAN GO OVER.

AND NOW, NOW WE'RE GONNA, SOMEONE NEEDS TO READ US INTO THE CLOSE SESSION.

[O. Closed Session - Virginia Freedom of Information Act]

I ALSO MOVED THE BOARD INTERIM TO A CLOSED MEETING UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION TWO TWO FOR COUNSEL, THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE AND SECTION TWO NINE CONCERNING THE AWARD PUBLIC CONTRACT INVOLVING THE PUBLIC FUNDS AND THE DISCUSSION OF THE FIRM SCOPE OF SUCH CONTRACT, SUCH DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN SESSION BARGAIN POSITION STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY REGARDING DISTRICT MORGAN COUNTY.

OKAY, IS THAT A SECOND, SIR? YES, SIR.

MR. MA.

SECOND.

MRS. OAT ALL IN FAVOR? HOLD ON.

I ALMOST SAID MADAME CHAIR.

MRS. COLORS .

OKAY, WE ARE IN CLOSED SESSION.

THANK YOU TO THIS BOARD AND MADAM CHAIR FOR THE INVITATION.

AND UH,

[C. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America]

UM, I NOTICED SOME, THIS IS JUST A GESTURE OF GOODWILL AND MAYBE TO OTHERS IT'S UH, UH, AN OUTDATED AND OLD-FASHIONED NOTION TO BEGIN WITH PRAYER.

BUT ON BEHALF OF ALL THE CONGREGATIONS THAT YOU REPRESENT, UM, WE EXPRESS OUR DEEP GRATITUDE THAT WE ARE AMONG THE FEW THAT STILL HOLD TO THIS TRADITION AND TO THE BELIEF THAT GOD IS ACTUALLY GOD OF ALL.

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AND ON THAT NOTE, WOULD YOU PRAY ALMIGHTY GOD, AS WE BEGIN THIS NEW YEAR, WE CLINGING TO YOU FOR HOPE.

WE GATHER OUR HEARTS TOGETHER AND LIFT UP THIS GROUP OF MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE DECIDED TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY FIRST.

AND WE PRAY THAT AS WE LIFT THEM UP TO YOU, YOU WOULD BLESS THEM WITH YOUR FAVOR, YOUR WISDOM AND YOUR POWER, THAT YOU WOULD PROTECT THEIR FAMILIES WHILE THEY ARE AWAY SERVING OTHERS, THAT YOU WOULD GUIDE THEM INTO THE PATHS THAT WOULD BRING HOPE AND PROMISE AND PROSPERITY TO THIS COMMUNITY.

AND THAT ALL THE GLORY AND PRAISE WOULD BE YOURS.

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, SON IN THE HOLY SPIRIT.

AMEN.

THANK YOU REVEREND.

WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

GOOD

[D. Election of Officers]

EVENING AGAIN.

THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS.

WE WILL SELECT CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD FOR THE YEAR 2020 3, 2 0 23.

FOR EACH OFFICE I WILL TAKE NOMINATIONS AND BOARD MEMBERS WILL VOTE ON THE NOMINATIONS IN THE ORDER THEY ARE MADE UNTIL WE HAVE A MAJORITY VOTE.

NOMINATIONS DO NOT NEED A SECOND.

AT THIS TIME I WILL ENTERTAIN NOMINATIONS FOR THE OFFICE OF CHAIRMAN.

ARE THERE NOMINATIONS, NOMINAT BOOK? ARE THERE OTHER NOMINATIONS? IS THERE A MOTION THAT THE NOMINATIONS BE CLOSED? IS THAT REQUIRE A SECOND? NO.

NO.

WE'LL CONTINUE WITH OUR MEETING.

SO WE WILL VOTE ON THE MOTION TO CLOSE NOMINATIONS.

UH, IS THAT A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MRS. OATS, MR. MABE, MRS. COOK, MR. BUTLER, MRS. COLORS.

WE WILL NOW VOTE ON THE NOMINATION OF VICKI COOK TO BE THE CHAIR.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MRS. OATS.

MR. MABE? AYE.

MRS. COOK? OH, DOES SHE NEED, DO YOU NEED TO, DOES SHE NEED TO ABSTAIN? OKAY.

MRS. COOK, MR. BUTLER, MRS. COLORS, WE WILL NOW ACCEPT NOMINATIONS.

MRS. COOK IS ELECTED AS CHAIR.

WE WILL NOW ACCEPT NOMINATIONS FOR THE VICE CHAIR.

NOMINAT.

ARE THERE OTHER NOMINATIONS? IS THERE A MOTION THAT NOMINATIONS BE CLOSED? WE WILL HAVE A ROLL CALL OF THE MOTION TO CLOSE NOMINATIONS.

MRS. OATS, MR. MABE, MRS. COOK, MR. BUTLER, MRS. COLORS.

AND WE'LL NOW HAVE A ROLL CALL FOR THE VOTE OF MRS. COLORS AS THE VICE CHAIR.

MRS. OATS.

MR. MABE? AYE.

MRS. COOK, MR. BUTLER? AYE MRS. COLORS THEREFORE BEING DULY ELECTED, UH, WILL ASK YOU THE BOARD MEMBERS TO TAKE THEIR PLACES AT THE BOARD.

OKAY, I CAN GO HOME.

I'M GOING HOME.

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THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.

SO CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YOU'RE WELCOME.

OH, VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE WITH, UM, THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.

[E. Adoption of Agenda – Additions or Deletions]

SO IS THERE ANY, UM, ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS OF OUR AGENDA? CLOSED SESSIONS.

BIG HUN.

CLOSED SESSIONS COME OFF.

YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY MADAME CHAIR, WE NEED TO REMOVE THE CLOSED SESSION BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED THAT.

SO, UM, DO WE HAVE, WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT.

SO, UM, MRS. OATS, WOULD YOUR MOTION BE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED WITH THE DELETION OF THE CLOSED SESSION? THAT WOULD BE CORRECT, MR. HAM.

SO, SO NOW DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

A PRESENTATION OF THE COUNTY EMPLOYEE YEARS OF SERVICE AWARDS.

MS. HIROKI? MR. MABE? AYE.

OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO NEXT ITEM OF OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS GOING TO BE

[F. Presentation of County Employee Years of Service Awards - Jane Meadows]

AND MS. MEADOWS, YOU HAVE THE FOUR.

I'D LIKE TO ASK THE BOARD TO PLEASE COME DOWN IN FRONT OF THE DIAS.

I WOULD, EACH OF YOU JUST WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO CELEBRATE THE SERVICE AWARDS FOR THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES.

WE'LL BE DOING EACH GROUPING, UM, TO HONOR OUR FIVE YEAR, 10 YEAR, 15, 20, 25 AND RETIREES TONIGHT FROM THE YEAR 2022.

UM, SO AS YOU SEE, WE HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES HERE TONIGHT AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE ARE SOME WHO AREN'T ABLE TO BE HERE, BUT WE APPRECIATE THE TIME FOR ALL OF THEM.

NOT ONLY WORKING FOR THE COUNTY, BUT ALSO THIS EVENING.

UM, SO I'M GONNA ASK SHERIFF BUTLER TO COME UP TO THE FRONT.

WE WILL BE STARTING WITH THE FIVE YEAR AWARDS.

UM, EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD WILL PRESENT THEM TO THEIR EMPLOYEES.

WE'LL ASK THE EMPLOYEES TO WAIT OVER BY MR. DALEY.

UM, AND AT THE END WE'LL DO A LARGE GROUP PICTURE.

UM, THE FIRST EMPLOYEE IS SERGEANT JAMES BEATTY.

YEP.

NEXT WE HAVE DEPUTY BRANDON DUFFER.

MYER IS, BRANDON MAY BE WORKING.

SO WE CAN SET THAT ASIDE.

UM, AND DEPUTY DALLAS NEELY.

HEY DALLAS, I'M GONNA HAVE YOU FLIP AROUND SO ROGER CAN GET A PICTURE OF YOU.

NOW I'M GONNA INVITE, UM, KEITH ZAO TO TAKE SHERIFF BUTLER'S SPOT.

WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK COLIN COLE TO PLEASE COME UP FRONT.

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AND NEXT WE HAVE MS. BRENDA DEAL AND UM, RICK FERRELL, WE TURNED ON THE TEMPERATURE.

ANDREW LOVE DOLL IS HERE, HERE TONIGHT.

I DID NOT SEE.

SO, UM, JARED LEWIS.

UM, AND THEN ERIC SOUTHERN IS AARON, THEY'RE RUNNING AWAY FROM YOU.

UM, I AM GONNA HAVE YOU HAVE A SEAT.

WHILE I ASKED MR. BARRY TO STEP JOIN THE CROWD FOR PUBLIC WORKS, WE HAVE, UM, TRAVIS JONES CELEBRATING FIVE YEARS .

UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, JOHN TIERNEY TYRANNY AND ROBERT WAEL .

WE KNEW WE ALSO HAVE WELLBE GRAY AND ALBERT LAMBERT WHO AREN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT TONIGHT AS WELL FROM PUBLIC WORK.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

LESLIE WILLIAMS ALSO HAD HER FIVE YEAR ANNIVERSARY, UM, THIS YEAR AND SHE'S NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THIS EVENING.

DAN LANCE, CAN YOU JOIN? AND BRITTANY JOHNSON, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME ON.

MARK ROBINSON FROM BUILDINGS INSPECTIONS IS NOT AVAILABLE THIS EVENING.

HOWEVER, DAVID, IF YOU CONNECT THAT TO HIS AWARD AND FROM THE TREASURER'S OFFICE, UM, CARRIE TANNER AND SHERRY TODD AND ALSO WERE CELEBRATING THEIR FIVE YEAR AWARDS.

UM, I'D LIKE TO ASK MS. EMILY SHIRAI IF SHE COULD COME DOWN.

AWESOME, MS. SO IF I COULD GET ALL OF THE RECIPIENTS TO PLEASE COME INTO THE MIDDLE SO WE CAN GET A GROUP PHOTO, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.

THANK YOU, ROGER.

TIGHTEN UP A LITTLE MORE.

YOU GET.

THAT'S THE FIVE YEAR.

OH REALLY? COOL.

SO NOW WE WILL BE CELEBRATING THE 10 YEAR AWARDS.

UM, SHERIFF BUTLER, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO STEP UP AGAIN.

MATT GRIFFITH.

SO THE THREE, FIVE OR 10 YEAR AWARDS FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE HERE.

UM, SO WE HAVE CADE BROWN, MATTHEW GRIFFITH, AND ASHLEY WOODALL.

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ALL RIGHT.

NOW WITH FIRE AND RESCUE DID SEE ADAM.

SO ADAM EMRY, BRIAN MEAD, I DO NOT BELIEVE IS HERE TONIGHT.

UM, BUT WE HAVE SCOTT RICHARDSON AS WELL.

THANK YOU SCOTT.

THAT'S IT FOR YOUR TEAM.

AND NOW MIKE? YES, MONICA IS MM-HMM.

AND MONICA, I'M NOT GONNA ATTEMPT TO MURDER YOUR LAST NAME CUZ I KNOW I WILL.

SORRY.

THERE WE GO.

AND THIS IS OUR GROUP FOR THE 10 YEARS.

SO WE'RE GONNA DO A SMALLER GROUP PICTURE.

A LITTLE EASIER ERROR .

PERFECT.

NOW WE WILL BE, UM, RECOGNIZING OUR 15 YEAR RECIPIENTS, UM, FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE, UM, LIEUTENANT MICHAEL GLADYS.

IS HE HERE TONIGHT? VERY TALL.

VERY TALL.

AND WE ALSO HAVE LIEUTENANT JEREMIAH LANGER.

ALL RIGHT.

FOR FIRE AND RESCUE, WE HAVE CAPTAIN TONY MEKO, THAT'S ALL YOU.

NEIL MIKE FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

WE HAVE WILMER DIAMOND.

IS HE HERE? I THOUGHT HE WAS HERE.

NO, WILMER.

UM, WE HAVE DONALD SHACKLEFORD.

THANK YOU DONNA AND MARLENE WINES.

JOEY JOCK NORMALLY WOULD BE ABLE TO BE HERE, BUT HE IS UNFORTUNATELY SICK THIS EVENING.

BUT THIS IS OUR GROUP FOR 15 YEAR, UM, YEARS OF SERVICE.

SO IF WE COULD PLEASE GET A PICTURE.

EVERYONE SNUGGLE IN.

THE ONLY OTHER 20 YEAR ANNIVERSARY WE HAVE.

THANK YOU ALL.

UM, NO, YOU'RE DYING.

SHE FOR 20 YEARS, YOU'LL NOTICE A GROUP IS GETTING SMALLER AND SMALLER.

UM, WE HAVE MISS MELISSA, HENRY MISSY.

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SHE'S NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

MISS IVY THOMPSON, MISSY, GET IN THE MIDDLE.

I SWEAR SHE STARTED WHEN SHE WAS TWO.

SO NOW FOR OUR 25 YEAR, OH, I CAN'T SPEAK AWARD.

AND NOW TO, UM, HONOR OUR RETIREES, WE HAVE FROM SOCIAL SERVICES, UM, MS. LINDA FUNK.

YES.

SO LINDA, LINDA WAS WITH THE COUNTY FOR 36 YEARS.

WOW.

WE HAD TWO OTHER RETIREES THIS YEAR WHO WEREN'T ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

UM, JUDY RUBY FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND ROBIN RICHARDSON FROM PARKS OF RECREATION.

UM, WE THANK ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES FURTHER DEDICATION, HARD WORK AND SERVICE.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

AGAIN, THANK YOU EVERYONE AND CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE, UM, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED FOR THE COUNTY.

UM, SO, OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS, UM, PUBLIC

[G. Public Comment Period (60 Minute Time Limit)]

COMMENT PERIOD.

MS. SHEI, DO WE HAVE YES.

SO I KNOW WE'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE, BUT WE'LL SAY IT AGAIN.

SO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITIZENS TO GIVE INPUT ON ANY RELEVANT ISSUE, NOT SUBJECT TO A PUBLIC HEARING, AND IS NOT INTENDED AS A QUESTIONNAIRE ANSWER PERIOD.

THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD SHALL BE LIMITED TO 60 MINUTES, UM, WITH A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER.

SPEAKERS MAY ONLY SPEAK ONCE AND WILL BE HEARD IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY HAVE SIGNED UP.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START.

AND, UM,

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MADAME CHAIR, JOHN LUNDBERG.

MY NAME IS JOHN LUNDBERG.

I LIVE IN FRONT ROYAL.

I WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON DATA CENTERS IN WARREN COUNTY.

ON OCTOBER 25TH, THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HEARD PUBLIC COMMENTS ON A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION FROM WARREN COUNTY, LED BY MR. MATT WENLING TO DO THE FOLLOWING, ONE, ADD A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO THE WARREN COUNTY CODE.

TWO, DEFINE WHAT A DATA CENTER IS.

THREE, ALLOW DATA CENTERS TO BE BUILT WITH A BY RIGHT PERMIT IN EITHER THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE OR THIS NEW LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE.

THEY WANTED CO TO BE CREATED.

AND FOUR, AS SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS TO THE COUNTY CODE ON DATA CENTERS.

SEVERAL LOCAL CITIZENS SPOKE THAT NIGHT CLEARLY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY SAID NOT TO APPROVE ANY CHANGES TO THE COUNTY CODE, WHICH WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF DATA CENTERS UNTIL MUCH MORE RESEARCH HAD BEEN DONE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THAT TIME, THE PUBLIC WOULD BE PROVIDED WITH DETAILED ANSWERS TO COMPLICATED QUESTIONS RAISED AT THE GEN OCTOBER 25TH MEETING.

THE CLEAR EXPECTATION AT THAT TIME WAS THIS WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE DATA CENTER ISSUE WAS PLACED AGAIN ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR'S AGENDA.

THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED.

ALL THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, LED BY MR. WENLING HAS DONE SINCE THE OCTOBER 25TH MEETING IS PROVIDE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH NINE WEBSITES CONTAINING DATA CENTER DATA.

MR. WENLING STATED THAT HE HOPED THAT THE BOARD WOULD FIND THE INFORMATION INTERESTING AND HELPFUL BEFORE THEY MAKE A FINAL DECISION.

MR. WENLING, THE JOB OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS MUCH MORE THAN PROVIDING DATA TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

YOUR WEBSITE ITSELF SAYS THAT YOU ARE QUOTE THE PRIMARY ADVISOR TO THE BOARD ON ISSUES COMING BEFORE THEM, PARTICULARLY ON COMPLICATED ISSUES REQUIRING COMPLICATED, REQUIRING DETAILED RESEARCH.

WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON DATA CENTERS? DO YOU WANT THEM BUILT IN WARREN COUNTY? IF SO, WHERE AND UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS? MANY SPEAKERS AT THE OCTOBER 25TH MEETING WERE APPALLED THAT YOUR COMMISSION RECOMMENDED UNANIMOUSLY TO THE BOARD THAT, AS I STATED YOU EARLIER, A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT BE ADDED TO THE COUNTY CODE.

AND TWO DATA CENTERS BE BUILT WITH BY RIGHT PERMIT.

AND MOST PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS WITH LITTLE, IF ANY EVIDENCE TO BACK THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ME, APPARENTLY WANTS THE PUBLIC AND THE BOARD BOARD MEMBERS THEMSELVES, YOU ALL SITTING BEFORE US THIS EVENING TO DO THEIR WORK.

YOU, THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPARENTLY WANTS YOU ALL AND THE PUBLIC TO EVALUATE ALL THIS RAW DATA AND THEN COME UP WITH YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.

BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

MY RECOMMENDATION YOU TONIGHT IS TO SEND THE PLANNING COMMISSION BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARDS DEMAND THAT THEY AT LONG LAST ONE, DO THE RESEARCH ON THIS ISSUE.

TWO, ANSWER THE QUESTIONS, THE PUBLIC A ANSWER THE QUESTIONS OF THE PUBLIC ASKED AT THE OCTOBER 25TH MEETING.

AND THREE, COME BACK TO YOU WITH A SIMPLE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAN BE ANSWERED WITH A YES OR NO ANSWER.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

YOU CAN TURN 'EM DOWN, YOU CAN AGREE WITH THEM.

YOU CAN SAY WE NEED MORE DEBT OR WHATEVER IT IS.

BUT COME BACK WITH A SIMPLE RECOMMENDATION.

THAT'S BASICALLY HOW THE US MILITARY AND THE TITANS OF AMERICAN INDUSTRY MAKE DECISIONS.

THEY, THEY, UH, SELECT A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT.

THEY PUT 'EM IN, THEY HAVE HIM DO THE RESEARCH.

THEY COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY CAN APPROVE OR DISPROVE.

UM, MR. LAMB, I, I'M SORRY THAT THE THREE MINUTES ARE UP.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING.

THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING.

SO DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE? THERE'S NOBODY ELSE WHO SIGNED UP.

SO, UM, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK? ABSOLUTELY.

UM, I'M LINDA MCDONOUGH, 1205 HIGH TOP ROAD, LYNDON, VIRGINIA.

THANKS LINDA.

THANK YOU LINDA.

[00:50:06]

AND I CAME IN TO, UH, PUT THIS INTO THE OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS FROM THE BOARD OF SHENANDOAH FARMS THAT SENT OUT ANOTHER, UH, NEWSLETTER, CALLING THE TROOPS TOGETHER.

UM, BECAUSE P O S FFA IS ITS OWN PRIVATE CORPORATION AND, UM, HAS BEEN RUNNING ON OUR MONEY FROM THE SANITARY DISTRICT, WHICH I BELIEVE HAS BEEN ILLEGAL ALL THESE YEARS.

I DO BELIEVE THAT, UH, IN 96 WHEN THE, UM, JUDGE MADE THAT WE COULD BECOME A SANITARY DISTRICT, THAT THE JUDGE TOOK OUT THE COMMON PROPERTIES OF P O S F INC.

AND IT WAS ONLY THE, UM, THE WARREN COUNTY RESIDENCE THAT WERE PUT INTO THIS NOTHING TO DO WITH P O S F INC.

BECAUSE THEIR PROPERTIES WERE TAKEN OUT.

AND THEN IT WAS IN 97 WHEN THEY CONTRACTED WITH THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, PO F DEPUTY INC.

IT WAS THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, THE PREVIOUS, AT THE TIME, UM, THAT MADE THE DECISION THAT, UM, THAT MONEY NEEDED TO BE PAID FOR THIS PRIVATE CORPORATION, WHICH I AM AND DO LIVE IN SHENANDOAH FARMS. UM, BUT THERE'S JUST SO MUCH IN THIS, UH, NEWSLETTER THAT'S JUST SO FULL OF LIVES.

OH, BOOHOO.

THEY HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN THEIR COMMON PROPERTIES.

THEY NEED TO GET THEMSELVES TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT A WAY BECAUSE OF COURSE THERE'S, UM, MEMBERSHIP BECAUSE MEMBERSHIP IS NOT MANDATORY.

SO THEY COULD GO OUT AND REALLY DO A THING AND REALLY TRY TO GET MEMBERSHIP AND GET PEOPLE TO BE PAYING MEMBERSHIP, BUT THEY'D RATHER SIT ON THEIR HANDS AND TAKE OUR TAX, OUR SANITARY DISTRICT FUNDS AND WHY AND CRY ABOUT IT.

UM, BUT I WAS JUST, AND EVEN IN THIS NEWSLETTER HERE, EVEN FROM THE LAWYER WHO SENT THE LETTER IN, NOT ADVISING YOU, BUT JUST TELLING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ABOUT THIS, UM, THAT THEY ADMIT THROUGH THE LETTER THAT THEY ARE THEIR OWN PRIVATE CORPORATION.

THAT OUR SANITARY DISTRICT MONEY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR CORPORATION.

AND, UM, I, I REALLY LIKE THE TRANSPARENCY CUZ I'VE BEEN COMING DOWN HERE A LONG TIME AND I REALLY DO LOVE THE TRANSPARENCY.

BUT WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY, YOU CAN'T HAVE TRANSPARENCY.

AND WE NEED TO HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE THAT ARE PUTTING THINGS OUT THAT IS NOT TRUE.

IT'S NOT TRUE.

AND THE WAY THEY GO OUT AND CONTACT NEW PEOPLE, EXCUSE ME, NEW PEOPLE THAT HAVE MOVED THERE AND EVERYTHING AND GET 'EM ALL RILED UP, IT'S LIKE, WHOA, WAIT A MINUTE.

HOLD THE HORSES, DO YOUR HOMEWORK.

UM, IT'S NOT REALLY THAT HARD, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.

YOU TOO.

MADAM CHAIR, CAN I ASK A REAL QUICK QUESTION, MISS, I, I JUST WANTED TO FIND OUT, AND, AND I'M CURIOUS, I'M NOT ASKING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT OR ANYTHING, BUT, UH, I KNOW THAT, UH, MEMBERSHIP OF P O S F IS VOLUNTARY.

IS THERE A REASON THAT THAT FOLKS CANNOT? UM, I'M, I, I'M, I'M SORRY.

UM, BUT, UH, THIS IS A, UM, PUBLIC CAN'T ANSWER PERIOD, SPEAKER IN.

I'M SORRY.

WE DON'T ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY DISCUSSIONS.

SO I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU MR. BUTNER.

NOT A PROBLEM.

I AM SO SORRY.

SO, UM, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK? OKAY, THIS WILL BE THE FINAL CALL AGAIN, IS ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK.

BUT IT'S THE JOB TO BE OF, UH, MATT WENDLING AND HIS, UH, DEPARTMENT TO PRESENT THAT INFORMATION TO YOU FOR YOU TO MAKE A WISE AND INFORMED DECISION.

WELL, PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS CLOSED.

OH, I'M SORRY, MA'AM.

I, I APOLOGIZE.

JUST TIRED.

UM, EILEEN HILLARY AND I AM, I LIVE HERE IN WARREN COUNTY, UM, IN CDO SHORES.

UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO SUPPORT WHAT JOHN HAD SAID ABOUT GOING FORWARD WITH APPROVING ANY REZONING WHEN WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE APPROVING IT FOR OR WHAT WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH REGARD TO THESE DATA CENTERS.

AND I THINK IT IS, UM, IRRESPONSIBLE AND WILL POSSIBLY EVEN WOULD BRING ABOUT A BLIGHT ON OUR BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY TO MOVE AHEAD WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITHOUT REALLY FULLY INVESTIGATING IT.

AND I AGREE WITH HIM THAT IT'S NOT YOUR JOB,

[00:55:01]

SO I HOPE THAT YOU'LL TABLE THAT, UM, UNFINISHED BUSINESS AND PUT IT OFF FOR ANOTHER TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO, TO COME AND SPEAK? OKAY, THIS WILL BE THE FINAL CALL.

AND ONCE AGAIN, OKAY, SO, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT IS, IS CLOSED.

SO WE'RE GONNA BE MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM.

IT'S, UH, UH,

[H. Report from the Virginia Department of Transportation - Ed Carter]

REPORT OF THE VDOT.

AND MR. CARTER.

IS HE, MR. CARTER WAS HERE THIS MORNING AT NINE O'CLOCK, MA'AM.

OH, .

HE DID GIVE YOU A COPY OF HIS REPORT.

DID EVERYONE GET A COPY? OKAY.

DID EVERYONE GET A COPY OF, UM, VIDOS REPORT? YEAH, THAT SHOULD HAVE, YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THAT ELECTRONICALLY WHEN I TRIED TO OPEN MINE.

IT'S JUST SMALL BOXES.

THERE'S NO WORDS.

WE'LL SEND YOU ANOTHER COPY TOMORROW.

YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY IT'S NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, A BIG DEAL, BUT THAT'S THE WAY MINE CAME.

HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.

YOU'RE NOT ALONE.

WE CAN SEND ANOTHER ONE.

YEAH, IT'S CORRUPTED .

SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR, UM, OR DISCUSSIONS ON VDOT, UM, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH, UM,

[I. Reports – Board Members, County Administrator, County Attorney]

ARE OUR REPORTS.

SO, UM, I GUESS WE'LL START WITH MR. BUTLER.

UH, MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE NO REPORT AT THIS TIME.

OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. KOHLERS.

I JUST WANNA THANK ALL OF OUR STAFF, UH, AND, AND MICHAEL COEL FOR THE GREAT JOB THEY DID DURING THE, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU LIVE IN WARREN COUNTY, IT COULD HAVE BEEN RAIN, IT COULD HAVE BEEN SNOW, ICE, ALL THREE.

UM, SO APPRECIATE THE UPDATES THAT YOU GAVE US, UH, TO KEEP US AWARE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT, UM, HAD TO WORK DURING THAT EVENT.

AND, UM, ALSO, UM, THE CONVENIENCE SITES, GUYS THAT WORK CHRISTMAS DAY, UM, I WISH WE COULD, UM, CLOSE THOSE SITES AND EVERYBODY KEEP THEIR TRASH AT HOME FOR ONE DAY, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT PILES UP AND THE GUYS AT THE SITE WOULD RATHER WORK THAN DEAL WITH A MESS THE NEXT DAY.

BUT I DO APPRECIATE THAT THEY, THEY WORKED THAT ON CHRISTMAS DAY.

AND, UM, I ATTENDED WANDA BRYANT, WHO WAS OUR TREASURER FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, AND JUST A WONDERFUL WOMAN, CHRISTIAN WOMAN HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

HER FUNERAL TODAY ON THE BEHALF OF THE BOARD.

UM, SHE WAS ALSO ARCHIE FOXER, PREVIOUS SUPERVISOR'S SISTER.

AND IT WAS, UM, JUST A BLESSING TO BE ABLE TO BE THERE WITH HER FAMILY.

AND THEY APPRECIATED EVERYONE THAT WENT.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU MS. OATS.

YEAH, I, UM, SO WE WERE NOTIFIED TODAY, I'LL START FIRST.

HAPPY NEW YEAR.

UM, WE WERE NOTIFIED TODAY WITH GREAT SADNESS THAT DANA FOGEL HAS PASSED AWAY.

SHE'S AN EMPLOYEE.

UM, SHE WAS ALSO A CLASSMATE OF MINE IN SCHOOL.

AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO SEND OUR, OUR PRAYERS, OUR CONDOLENCES TO HER HUSBAND RAY.

AND, UM, HER SERVICE IS GONNA BE HELD ON TUESDAY.

DANA, UM, IF ANYBODY, IF ANY OF YOU KNEW HER, SHE'S JUST A NOT BIGGER IN A MINUTE AND JUST AS SPUNKY, POWERFUL LITTLE, UM, LITTLE GAL.

AND, AND SHE WILL JUST BE GREATLY MISSED.

SHE WAS SUCH AN ENERGY SOURCE INTO THE COMMUNITY.

SO I WANTED TO NOTE THAT.

AND THEN I ALSO JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UM, ENTERING 2023, UM, THIS IS MY LAST YEAR ON THE BOARD, AND IT SEEMS CRAZY TO ME THAT IT HAS FLOWN BY THIS FAST.

I, UM, WAS ELECTED IN 2019 AND, UM, BEGAN IN THE CRAZY, CRAZY TIME OF 2020, UM, WITH COVID.

BUT IT HAS BEEN THE GREATEST HONOR, UM, OF MY LIFE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE THAT I LOVE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

I'M GONNA GO OUT WITH A BANG.

AND, UH, SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW I'M SEEKING TO, TO, UH, SERVE US IN A DIFFERENT WAY, UM, NEXT YEAR IN RICHMOND.

BUT FOR NOW, UM, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE WONDERFUL COMMUNITY OF WARREN COUNTY FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE ON THIS BOARD TO SERVE YOU, UM, IN I HOPE AN HONORABLE WAY.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

WE'LL MISS YOU .

WE GOT A YEAR TO

[01:00:01]

MISS.

HUH? DON'T LEAVE YET.

NO, BUT IT IS, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST SO SURREAL THAT IT'S MY LAST YEAR ON THIS BOARD.

IT JUST SEEMS SURREAL TO ME.

NICE.

WHEN YOU'RE HAVING FUN.

YEAH, IT'S BEEN FUN.

BEEN REAL.

UH, SO MR. UH, MABE, UM, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COMMUNITY, UH, THANK WARREN COUNTY.

UM, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH LOTS OF STUFF IN THE LAST THREE YEARS TOGETHER.

UH, AND THIS CHRISTMAS AND THIS NEW YEAR'S REMINDS ME OF, UM, JUST THE ABILITY AND THE FORESIGHT OF PEOPLE THAT, UH, THAT WANT TO HELP THE COMMUNITY.

AND, UH, THIS BOARD IS GONNA BE DOING THAT AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

AND I THINK THAT, UM, WITHOUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU, THE PEOPLE THAT COME UP AND SAY, HEY, I'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH THIS, OR, UH, I WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING.

WE DON'T GET THINGS DONE AS QUICKLY AS WE SHOULD, BUT WE'RE, WE CANNOT PLEASE ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME, BUT WE CAN PLEASE MOST OF THE PEOPLE MOST OF THE TIME.

BUT, UM, I, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS.

UM, MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERY ONE OF YOU.

I, I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE FIRST RESPONDERS.

I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE FIREMEN, THE, THE POLICEMEN, THE HEALTHCARE WORKERS, EVERYBODY THAT WORKED DURING THIS TOUGH TIME AND, AND IT WAS COLD.

AND, AND DID I SAY IT WAS COLD THERE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS, .

UM, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ABOVE IT IS THAT LINE THAT'S IN GREEN, IT SAYS JANUARY, BOARD OF EQUALIZATION TRAINING.

UM, FOR MY REPORT, UH, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I ATTENDED THE TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE AND, UM, I WANNA THANK THE, THE STAFF FOR, UM, CONTINUOUS, CONTINUALLY IMPROVING OUR INTERNALLY EFFICIENCIES USING, UM, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.

UM, ALSO, UM, I WANNA THANK THEM FOR BEING ALERT AND TARGETING OUR IT VULNERABILITIES AS WELL AS TRAINING ALL OF OUR STAFF.

I, I REALLY, UM, I'M GLAD THAT WE, WE HAVE THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE.

UM, THE SECOND ITEM IS THAT I MET WITH OUR FIRE AND RESCUED LEADERSHIP, UM, TO, FOR, YOU KNOW, KNOW A SMALL LITTLE DISCUSSION OF OUR LONG TERM, UM, VISION FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

UM, AGAIN, I JUST WANNA REACH OUT AND THANK, THANK, THANK THE STAFF FOR, UM, ALLOWING, YOU KNOW, SHARING THEIR VISION AND KNOWING WHAT WE'RE, WHAT'S AHEAD OF US AND OUR CHALLENGES.

UM, AND THEN LASTLY, UM, I ATTENDED, WELL, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE KNOWS THAT I'M PART OF THE WARREN COUNTY SENIOR CENTER, BUT WE, WE HAD A, A PARTY.

AND, UM, ALL I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT I'M, I'M CONTINUE TO LOOK FORWARD IN WORKING WITH OUR SENIOR COMMUNITY AND, UM, AND ALSO HOPE THAT EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE TIME TO VOLUNTEER AND HELP OUR SENIORS, UM, I THINK IT'D BE, UM, VERY REWARDING, UM, THING FOR YOU.

AND SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

UM, WE'LL GO ON TO, UH, DR.

DALEY.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

UH, THREE YEARS AGO THE BOARD DID NOT HAVE AN IT DEPARTMENT.

SO HALFWAY HOME AND A LONG WAY TO GO ABSOLUTELY WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU, YOU HAVE A COPY OF THIS LEGAL SIZE PAGE THAT UPDATES US ON OUR REASSESSMENT AND THESE ITEMS IN RED ON THE FRONT PAGE, THOSE GO AWAY BECAUSE THE BOARD SAID THAT THE ASSESSOR, THE PROFESSIONAL ASSESSOR WILL BE THE ASSESSOR.

SO HE WILL MAKE THE DECISIONS AND MR. HAMS BEEN WORKING WITH THE COMMISSIONER AND THIS NOTICE IS JUST ABOUT READY TO GO, HOPEFULLY THE END OF THIS WEEK, IF NOT THE FIRST OF NEXT WEEK.

AND THEN THEY WILL HAVE A COUPLE OF WEEKS IN WHICH TO HAVE A REQUEST, A HEARING, SCHEDULE THAT HEARING, AND BE ABLE TO, UM, REVIEW THE ASSESSMENT ON THEIR PROPERTY AND SEE WHAT CHANGES ARE NEEDED WHEN THOSE NOTICES GO OUT.

WANNA REMIND EVERYONE THAT IT'S BASED ON THE CURRENT TAX RATE AND THAT'S BY LAW.

BUT IN REALITY, AFTER THE BOARD GETS THE TOTAL, THE END OF JANUARY, IF YOU FLIP OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU SEE WHERE THE ASSESSOR SIGNS THE TRAIN, THE BOOK, AND THAT GIVES YOU YOUR TOTAL VALUE.

AND AT THAT POINT YOU CAN START WORKING ON HOW TO REDUCE EQUALIZE THE TAX RATE SO THAT IT'S LEVEL.

BUT UNTIL THAT TIME, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO GET THIS STICKER SHOCK.

AND THAT'S JUST BY NATURE AND STATE LAW, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

BUT WHEN THEY CALL, JUST REMIND THEM.

YOU CAN LOWER THE RATE AFTER JANUARY 31.

WHEN YOU GET THE TOTAL REMIND YOU RIGHT

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ON YOUR AGENDA FOR THE 17TH, THERE WILL BE THE APPOINTMENT OF THE BOARD OF ASSESSORS.

SO AS WE SAID BACK OVER HERE IN NOVEMBER ON PAGE ONE, YOU NEED TO HAVE YOUR FIVE PEOPLE SUBMIT DOCUMENTATION TO MRS. SHIRAI TO APPLY SO YOU CAN EVALUATE AND APPOINT.

HAS ANYONE APPLIED MRS. SHIRAI? NO.

SO WE NEED WORD OF THE WISE IS SUFFICIENT.

YOU NEED TO GET SOME PEOPLE THERE.

YES MA'AM.

MADAM CHAIR, MAY I ASK? WELL, AB ABSOLUTELY.

UM, SO DR.

DALEY, COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT THIS.

FIRST OFF, THE PEOPLE WHO HAD APPLIED FOR THE PREVIOUS, UM, BOARD OF ASSESSORS, ASSESSORS THAT WE WERE INITIALLY TRYING TO RECRUIT PEOPLE FOR, YES.

UH, CAN THOSE PEOPLE BE UTILIZED FOR THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION? THEY SHOULD SEND MRS. SHIRAI AN EMAIL SAYING, PLEASE TAKE MY APP EXCEPT MY APPLICATION FOR THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.

KIND OF LIKE WHAT MS. THE CANDIDATE DID THAT LAUREL RIDGE.

SO CAN WE, UM, GIVEN THAT THEY CAN APPLY, DO THEY HAVE TO COME FROM EACH DISTRICT? IS THAT A REQUIREMENT FOR THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION THAT THERE HAS TO BE ONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM EACH MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT? OR IS IT JUST, UM, CAN THEY JUST BE FROM WARREN COUNTY? BECAUSE THAT WAS A CONCERN IN THE BOARD OF ASSESSORS? NOT DUNNO THE ANSWER TO THAT.

I DON'T THINK SO, BUT I GIVE YOU A FEW MINUTES.

I'LL FIGURE IT OUT.

THANK YOU MR. HAM.

SO I, SO AND THEN, SO, AND THEN ALSO MR. DALEY, UH, TO FURTHER CLARIFY, SO THESE ASSESSMENTS ARE GOING OUT WITH A TOTAL THAT WILL REPRESENT A BILL LOOKING ITEM BASED ON THE CURRENT TAX RATE.

IT SAYS AT THE TOP, THIS IS NOT A BILL.

BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT WITH SHOWING WHAT THE BILL WOULD BE IF THE BOARD DID NOT CHANGE THE RATE.

SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE PASSING OUT AT THEIR HOMES WHEN THEY SEE THIS .

SO IT, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO WARRANT IT COMES IN AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A REAL, IT'S NOT A REAL STATEMENT, OKAY.

BECAUSE IT'S JUST A REQUIREMENT BY THE STATE LAW.

BUT YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE RATE UNTIL AFTER THE ASSESSOR SIGNS THE BOOK SAYING THIS IS THE TOTAL ASSESSMENT.

AND EVERYBODY'S HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND SAY, YOU'VE GOT MY PROPERTY AT $110,000 AND IT SHOULD BE 98, WHATEVER THE NUMBERS ARE, EVERYBODY HAS THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT APPEAL FIRST.

AND AFTER THOSE ARE REVIEWED, THEN HE CAN SIGN THE BOOK AND THEN THE BOARD CAN REVIEW THE RATE.

AND THEN EVERYONE ALSO HAS THE CH ANOTHER APPEAL AT THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.

SO THEY HAVE TWO APPEALS.

IT SEEMS LIKE A BACKWARDS PROCESS TO ME, BUT I I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT IT, IT'S, IT'S UPSIDE DOWN.

WE'RE COUNTING ON SOME OF OUR NEW DELEGATES TO STRAIGHTEN THAT OUT NEXT YEAR.

WELL IT, BUT WE NEED, YEAH, BECAUSE THE PROCESS SEEMS TO BE LIKE THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.

YES MA'AM.

IT IS.

AND SO IT BE, YOU KNOW, TAXPAYERS ARE GONNA RECEIVE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU FOLKS HAVE READ, BUT THE ESTIMATE FROM OUR APPRAISER IS THAT HOME, UH, PRICES OR HOME VALUES WILL HAVE INCREASED SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 30 AND 40%.

SO STICKER SHOCK TO SAY THE LEAST WHEN YOU GET YOUR BILL.

UM, MY COMMITMENT TO THIS COMMUNITY IS THAT WE WILL DO EVERYTHING TO KEEP THIS REVENUE NEUTRAL.

SO DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SO, NO.

ARE WE DONE WITH THAT? SORRY.

, UM, REMIND YOU THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETS TOMORROW AT SIX 30.

ONE OF THE ITEMS ON THEIR AGENDA IS TO APPOINT OR REAPPOINT THEIR SCHOOL COUNTY LIAISON, FINANCE AND SCHOOL COUNTY, UH, BUILDING AND SCHOOL COUNTY JOINT LIAISON.

ALL THREE OF THOSE.

AND SO THOSE APPOINTMENTS WILL BE ON YOUR AGENDA ON THE 17TH, WHICH LEADS ME TO THIS BIG LIST THAT YOU HAVE OF ALL OF YOUR APPOINTMENTS THAT THE BOARD HAS OF BOARD MEMBERS.

AND YOU NEED TO CONTACT THE CHAIR AND SAY WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE PUT, IF YOU WILL, WHERE YOU'D LIKE TO BE ASSIGNED SO THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH A LIST BY THE 17TH FOR YOU TO APPROVE FOR ALL OF YOUR ASSIGNMENTS.

SO YOU SHOULD GET THOSE BACK

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BY NEXT WEEK.

SO BECAUSE THE AGENDA GOES OUT AND NEXT WEEK WITH THE WORK SESSION, YOU HAVE SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS.

AND BEFORE AND AFTER THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS, WE WILL HAVE A, UH, WORK SESSION ON TO REVIEW OUR MANAGEMENT DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, THE ASSET REPLACEMENT PROGRAM, THE PRELIMINARY C I P, AND THE CONSERVANCY.

SO KEEP THOSE IN MIND THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THOSE AT THE NEXT, UH, NEXT WORK SESSION.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MA'AM.

UM, UM, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION GOING BACK TO THE, UM, TAX REASSESSMENT.

SO ONCE THE, UH, ONCE THE INFORMATION IS SENT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, AT WHAT POINT IN TIME DOES THE AN AMENDMENT PROCESS BEGIN? UH, EXCUSE ME, THE APPEAL PROCESS START.

WHEN THE, WHEN THE NOTICE GOES OUT, THEN THEY WILL HAVE A NUMBER THERE THAT THEY CAN CALL AND WE WILL HAVE THE HEARINGS, THESE APPEAL HEARINGS, THE END OF THE MONTH, THE BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY.

THEY'LL BE PROBABLY RUN OVER JANUARY 31 AND THEY WILL START APPROXIMATELY JANUARY 20.

AND THEY WILL BE RUNNING FOR TWO WEEKS AT LEAST.

AND IF THERE'S MORE PEOPLE WHO APPLY, THEY'LL RUN LONGER BY THE MINIMUM OF TWO WEEKS.

AND THEN THE SECOND SET OF APPEALS WILL START AFTER WE HAVE THE FINAL ASSESSMENT BOOK.

WARREN ONLY KNOWS I'D LOVE TO PAY LESS TAXES.

DO YOU KNOW IF THE NOTICE HAS THAT INFORMATION TO LET THE PE THE PUBLIC KNOW, I'M GONNA LET MR. HAM ADDRESS THAT CUZ HE'S BEEN WORKING ON THAT NOTICE TO MAKE SURE IT'S RIGHT.

SO YEAH, IT'S, THE NOTICE HAS, UM, SOME DATES OF SOME PROPOSED HEARINGS AND IT'S NOT BEEN FINALIZED YET BECAUSE THE DATES THAT WERE IN THE CURRENT VERSION, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY REALIZED THAT THERE HAD TO BE 15 DAYS NOTICE OF IT GIVEN, SO THAT WOULD MEAN IT WOULD HAVE TO GET OUT BY FRIDAY AND IT'S A BIG PROJECT TO GET IT OUT.

SO HAVING A CONFERENCE CALL TOMORROW TO GET ALL THAT STUFF FINALIZED.

SO, UM, BUT YEAH, YOUR, YOUR TAXPAYERS BY LAW ARE GONNA SEE THIS REASSESSMENT NOTICE AND IT'S GONNA HAVE 22, 21 AND, AND 20 AND IT'S GONNA HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE VALUE OF THEIR PROPERTY AND, UH, BOTH THE, UH, RAW LAND AND THE IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN WHAT THEIR TAX BILL WAS IN IN 20 AND 21 AND THEN WHAT THEIR TAX BILL WOULD BE IN 22 AT THE CURRENT RATE AS IF YOU HAD NOT LOWERED IT, WHICH I KNOW THIS BOARD IS PLANNING ON DOING.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A KIND OF A NASTY THING FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS TO GET.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN THANK OUR FRIENDS IN RICHMOND FOR THAT.

IT, IT'S STATE LAW, YOU HAVE TO PUT IT IN THERE.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE.

I'VE PUT IN THE NOTICE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RATE HASN'T BEEN, YOU KNOW, SET YET.

I'VE PUT THAT IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT PLACES, BUT THANK YOU.

IT'S GONNA GENERATE A LOT OF ANGST, UH, AMONGST PEOPLE UNFORTUNATELY.

BUT YEAH, NOT QUITE SURE WHAT ELSE TO DO ABOUT FIXING THAT.

NO.

WELL, YEAH, BUT LONG AS THE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROCESS IS AND THE DATES AND THE NUMBERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I MEAN HOPEFULLY THAT MIGHT HELP.

SO MADAM CHAIR, I JUST WANTED TO FIND OUT.

SO IS THERE, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT SOMEBODY COULD COME ALONG AND, UM, SAY LIKE, UH, THAT THEY, THEY FIND OUT THAT THEIR ASSESSMENT HAS GONE UP AND SO THEY GO TO THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION AND THEY GET THEM TO LOWER IT AND THEN THE BOARD HERE TAKES A LOOK AND SAYS, WELL ACROSS THE BOARD WE'RE GONNA LOWER IT BY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A PERCENT OR 2% AND SO THEY END UP PAYING A LOT LESS THAN WHAT THEIR, THEIR NEIGHBORS PAY.

IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF THAT HAPPENING? WELL, YES.

SOME, SOME PEOPLE, AND THIS IS REASSESSMENT, SOME PEOPLE WILL PAY LESS.

IT'S LIKE WE TALKED LAST YEAR ABOUT PERSONAL PROPERTY.

YES, SOME PEOPLE PAID LESS, OTHER PEOPLE PAID MORE, BUT SOME PEOPLE PAID LESS.

AND WHEN YOU, WHEN THEY GO TO APPEAL AND THEY HAVE THEIR PROPERTY REEVALUATED AND IT LO IT IS LOWERED, LET'S SAY, AND IT IS LOWER THAN WHEN THE BOARD COMES IN AND THE BOARD SAYS THE TOTAL VALUATION OF THE COUNTY IS UP 20%.

SO WE CAN LOWER THE TAX RATE 20% OR 30% AND WE CAN LOWER 30, WHATEVER THAT AMOUNT IS.

THEN SOME PEOPLE WILL SEE THEIR TAXES GO DOWN.

YES, THEY WILL.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

NOT THAT, UH, IT DOES HAPPEN.

NOT, NOT THAT I'M, I'M BLAMING ANYBODY FOR TRYING TO PAY LESS TAXES BECAUSE

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I WOULDN'T PLAN IT UP ON YOUR STREET.

SIR REMIND YOU WHILE I'M STILL TALKING MA'AM, YOU HAVE TWO DOCUMENTS.

YOU HAVE THE 2020 BOARD PRIORITIES AND THAT DOCUMENT IS IN CONTINUING PROJECTS, SECOND PAGE, OTHER AND THIRD PAGE REMOVED.

AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE WHAT YOU DID THIS PAST FALL WHERE YOU HAVE CRITICAL AND URGENT AND INSIDE YOU HAVE IMPORTANT BUT NOT URGENT.

AND THEN YOU HAVE ONGOING UNDERWAY AND THEN YOU HAVE DID NOT RECEIVE THREE OR MORE VOTES PRIMARILY BECAUSE THESE WERE NOT SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY ADDRESSES WITH THESE TWO DOCUMENTS ARE GONNA BE CONSOLIDATED OVER THE NEXT WEEK AND A HALF AND YOU WILL SEE THEM TO PRELIMINARY TO LOOK AT ON THE 17TH SO THAT YOU CAN ADOPT YOUR GOALS FOR 2023.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.

BE MOVING TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF OUR MEETING, UM, DATED DECEMBER 13TH, 2022.

SO THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DR.

DALEY? OKAY, UM, MR. HAM.

SO HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY AND, AND I ACTUALLY WILL HAVE A REPORT, UM, FIRST OF ALL TO ANSWER, UM, SUPERVISOR OZ'S QUESTION.

NO, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PER DISTRICT.

SO, YOU KNOW, AND THIS BODY DOESN'T ACTUALLY APPOINT THEM, IT MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CIRCUIT COURT.

THAT IS THE, AND I'VE, YOU KNOW, I'VE NEVER SEEN IT HAPPEN IN MY WHOLE CAREER THAT THE JUDGE DIDN'T DO WHAT THE LOCALITY ASKED THEM TO DO, BUT THAT'S THE, THE WHAT HAPPENS.

AND TO GET THAT THING KICKSTARTED, YOU DEFINITELY NEED TO FIND SOME FOLKS WHO ARE WILLING TO DO THIS.

UM, AND, AND DO IT AS SOON AS YOU CAN SO THAT I CAN SEND IT TO THE JUDGE OR CAITLIN CAN SEND IT TO THE JUDGE TO, TO GET THAT GOING.

UM, AND THEN SORT OF PARTIALLY IN RESPONSE TO WHAT SUPERVISOR BUTLER SAID, YOU KNOW, THE BY LAW WE ARE SUPPOSED TO ASSESS EVERY PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, PERSONAL OR COMMERCIAL, WHATEVER IT'S WORTH.

AND SO SOME OF THOSE ONES ARE GONNA GO UP, SOME OF 'EM ARE GONNA GO DOWN AND THEN THIS BODY'S GONNA GET AN AVERAGE AGGREGATE OF THAT.

AND THEN MY UNDERSTANDING IS REDUCE THE TAX RATE SO THAT THE REVENUE GAIN TO THE COUNTY IS APPROXIMATELY THE SAME.

AND SO ON AN AGGREGATE, THE TAX BURDEN IS THE SAME BUT FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL IN, IN DIFFERENT AREAS, IT'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT BASED UPON WHAT THEIR INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, APPRECIATED THAT.

AND SOME OF 'EM APPRECIATED.

I THINK THE, UM, ASSESSOR SAID LAST TIME, LIKE THE, UH, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, SOME OF THOSE DID NOT APPRECIATE AS MUCH AS SOME OF THE REAL ESTATE OF THE PERSONAL PROPERTIES DID.

UM, SO ANYWAY, THAT, THAT'S MY REPORT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA

[J. Approval of Minutes - Regular Meeting of December 13, 2022]

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS OR REVISIONS TO OUR MEETING MINUTES? NO.

SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, THE MEETING MINUTES AS PRESENTED? ITEM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF DECEMBER 13TH, 2022.

UNDER UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.

SORRY.

SO CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. BUTLER? AYE.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM, UH, WHICH IS AN

[K. Z2022-05-01 - Ordinance to Amend and Re-Ordain Sections 180-8 and 180-28 and to Add and Ordain Sections 180-28.1 and 180-43.3 of the Warren County Code re: Light Industrial (LI) Zoning District and Data Centers - Matt Wendling, Planning Director]

AND, UM, IT IS THE Z 2022 DASH OH FIVE DASH OH ONE ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND RE ORDAINED SECTIONS.

180 DASH EIGHT AND 180 DASH 28 TO ADD, TO ADD AND ORDAINED SECTIONS, 180 DASH 28.1 AND 180 DASH 43 3 OF THE WARREN COUNTY CODE REFERENCING A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT AND DATA CENTERS.

AND, UM, IS MR. WELDING HERE OR IS IT HE'S NOT HERE.

I'M HERE FOR HIM.

OKAY, THERE, WELL, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

WELL, UM, YOU HAVE EVERYTHING IN YOUR PACKET, THE, IN OCTOBER, UM, AS YOU REMEMBER, THE BOARD HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED TEXT

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AMENDMENT.

AND, UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY, ANY QUESTIONS REALLY IF YOU HAVE THEM.

UM, MR. WENDLING HAD PUT TWO MOTIONS IN YOUR, UM, PACKET.

ONE WAS REALLY TO ADOPT AND THEN ONE WAS TO NOT ADOPT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCES.

HE HAD SENT YOU SOME LINKS, UM, AS THE SPEAKER SAID, AND AS YOU ALL GOTTEN YOUR EMAIL.

UM, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

ANY, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, CHAIR.

I, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I DID WANNA SAY THAT, UM, I, I'VE DONE A LOT OF, UM, RESEARCH ON THESE.

LISTEN TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, PEOPLE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE THERE ARE DATA CENTERS.

I WENT DOWN, UM, TO THE MANASSAS AREA AND, UH, RODE AS CLOSE AS I COULD TO THE DATA CENTERS THERE.

AND I THEN I WENT TO, UM, LOUDOUN COUNTY.

UM, I, I, I JUST DON'T SEE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S SOME FINANCIAL BENEFIT, UM, BUT TO ME PERSONALLY, ANY FINANCIAL BENEFIT, THE DESTRUCTION TO OUR, TO OUR COUNTY AS FAR AS THE AESTHETIC BEAUTY, THE, UM, THE VIEW SHED FROM THE DRIVE, YOU KNOW, JUST DRIVING BY ON 66 DEPENDING ON WHERE ONE WOULD WANNA GO.

THESE THINGS ARE MONSTROSITIES.

I DON'T, I, I RODE THERE AND I THOUGHT, WHERE DID THE CHILDREN PLAY DOWN HERE? WHERE, WHERE'S THE GREEN AREAS WHERE, YOU KNOW, UM, THEY TAKE, MAYBE THEY'VE GOT THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT THEY TAKE DOWN, UM, OVER IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, BUT STILL THE, UM, THE POSSIBILITY OF THE DRAIN ON THE, OUR WATER, ON OUR ELECTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE.

UH, AND JUST THE DESTRUCTION.

ONCE YOU BUILD IT, IT'S THERE.

AND I PERSONALLY AM AGAINST IT AND I PERSONALLY AM READY TO MAKE THE MOTION, BUT I'LL WAIT TO SEE IF ANYONE ELSE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YEP.

YES.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M NOT AGAINST DATA CENTERS PER SE, BUT I AM AGAINST ANYTHING THAT WILL, THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I'VE MENTIONED THIS TO, TO DR.

DALEY, THAT WILL COME INTO THIS COUNTY, SUCK THE LIGHT LIFE OUT OF IT, AND THEN LEAVE.

AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN, UH, IF WE COULD HAVE A DATA CENTER THAT COMES IN HERE THAT IS, IS NOT A MONSTROSITY THAT ADDS TO THE COMMUNITY THAT, UH, PROVIDES A SERVICE.

AND LIKE, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE GOOD IS THAT, UH, IF, UH, IF A DATA CENTER, IF IT DREW WATER OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE RIVER AND PROCESSED THAT WATER FOR, FOR, UM, COOLING, BUT WAS ALSO ABLE TO MAKE THAT WATER POTABLE AND THEN BE ABLE TO PUT IT BACK INTO THE, INTO THE, UH, RIVER AT THE SAME TEMPERATURE THAT IT GOES IN.

AND, UH, BUT IF THE COMMUNITY SAID, WELL, WE WANT TO USE THAT WATER, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE, THE COMMUNITY WOULD PAY FOR IT, BUT IT WOULD BE A PLUS.

AND SOMETHING THAT, THAT, THAT I, I WOULD SEE WOULD BE A, A WIN-WIN.

BUT ONLY IF, AND I'M, I'M DEFINITELY WITH, UH, WITH MS. KOHLS HERE AND THAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE SOMETHING COME INTO THIS COUNTY THAT WOULD BE A DETRIMENT.

AND THEN 20 YEARS FROM NOW WE'RE SITTING HERE WITH THIS HUGE MONSTROSITY GOING, OH MY GOODNESS, WHY IN THE WORLD DID WE DO THIS? SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

IN OPPOSING THIS CODE AT THIS CURRENT TIME.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, UM, SO I THINK IT'S VERY PREMATURE THAT WE WOULD PUT THIS INTO OUR CODE, UH, BEFORE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS FOR BOTH THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY ARE FINALIZED.

UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE, THE ISSUES.

AND ALSO THE ISSUE IS THAT IT'S BY, RIGHT.

AND I'M NOT SURE THAT ANYTHING SHOULD BE BY RIGHT.

UM, BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T ALLOW US TO PUT PARAMETERS AROUND EACH INDIVIDUAL LOCATION, WHAT THAT LOCATION IS INTENDED FOR IN TERMS OF USE.

AND, UM, SO I THINK THAT IT CONFLICTS WITH, UH, THIS COUNTY'S PLAN.

OUR NUMBER ONE INDUSTRY IN WARREN COUNTY IS TOURISM.

AND OUR VIEW SHED FROM, FROM UP IN THE SHENDO NATIONAL PARK IS AT STAKE BASED ON THE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE ABOUT THE SIZE AND THE SCOPE OF THESE BUILDINGS.

SO BY WRITE ANYTHING IS NOT, I DON'T THINK, ACCEPTABLE TO ME.

UM, AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I JOINED MY FELLOW SUPERVISORS

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WOW.

, I'VE GOT .

I'M SORRY.

YOU LIKE THAT BETTER? DIDN'T, YOU'RE SHORT AND SWEET .

UM, I, I'M IN THIS AGREEMENT WITH ALL OF YOU AND IT'S HARD TO FOLLOW UP ON THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE SAID CUZ WE'VE COVERED SO MANY OF THOSE.

THE BIGGEST ONE I THINK IS THE BUY RIGHT? I DIDN'T LIKE THAT AT ALL.

UH, IT NEEDS TO COME OUT COMPLETELY.

WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO BRING INTO OUR COMMUNITY, FIRST AND FOREMOST.

UM, I, UM, WITHOUT OVERSTATING ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

WE TAKE BUY RIGHT OUT.

WE PUT IT IN A PLACE WHERE IT BELONGS NOT IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

AND WE CAN DO THAT THROUGH THE CODE THAT WE'RE GONNA PUT IN AT SOME POINT IN TIME, BUT NOT NOW.

WELL ACTUALLY, UM, I KIND OF SHARE EVERYONE'S OPINION, UH, WITH THIS AS WELL.

UM, I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD, UM, GO WITH THE, THE BY RIGHT OF THE PROP, UH, OF THE PROPERTY OR THE ZONING.

UM, I, I AGREE WITH MS. OATS AS WELL IS THAT WE NEED TO PUT SOME TYPE OF PARAMETERS AROUND AND, AND IF I CAN QUOTE MS. OATS FROM THE, I THINK IT WAS OUR LAST TWO, THE FIRST WORKING SESSION WHEN, UM, WE TABLED THIS WHERE YOU SAY WE NEED TO DECIDE AS A COUNTY IF DATA CENTERS IS RIGHT FOR US.

AND I AGREE WITH THAT 100%.

SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, UM, I AGREE WITH MR. MABE THAT I DON'T THINK DATA SINIS SHOULD BE BE BELONGING IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, AGRICULTURAL AREAS, COMMERCIAL AREAS.

UM, WE HAVE AN INDU, UM, INDUSTRY INDUSTRIAL, I'M SORRY, WE HAVE THE INDUSTRIAL AREA WHERE, YOU KNOW, I COULD SEE THAT WOULD BE A, A GOOD SPOT FOR IT.

BUT AGAIN, WHAT CIRCLES BACK WITH IS THE PARAMETERS IN THE BY.

RIGHT? SO, UM, SO I AGREE WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH, UM, WITH THE BOARD ON THAT.

MY QUESTION IS, OKAY, SO DO WE REJECT, WE TURN DOWN THIS MOTION AND THEN HAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO GO BACK AND RE-LOOK OF THE, THE LANGUAGE OR THE, OR THE NARRATIVE OF THIS ORDINANCE THAT COULD, YOU KNOW, UM, BE PART OF OUR DISCUSSION HERE, YOU KNOW, BY REMOVING BY, RIGHT.

AND YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE, I THINK YOU COULD DIRECT STAFF TO DO THAT MM-HMM.

OR YOU COULD JUST NOT APPROVE IT AND NOT DO THAT AND JUST WAIT IN CASE THERE IS AN APPLICANT AT SOME POINT THAT DOES COME FORWARD AND THEY CAN PRESENT, UM, THE TEXT AMENDMENT.

SO I THINK YOU CAN DO IT EITHER WAY.

THIS, THIS WAS BROUGHT BY THE, UM, PLANNING STAFF.

SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE THEM TO GO BACK AND REVIEW IT AND THEM PROPOSE SOMETHING ELSE TO YOU ALL, THEY CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT.

MM-HMM.

OR YOU CAN JUST DECIDE NOT TO DO ANYTHING AT THIS TIME.

AND THEN IF THERE IS AN APPLICANT WHO DOES HAVE A, A CERTAIN PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE THAT WANTS TO COME IN AND PROPOSE A TEXT AMENDMENT, THEY COULD DO THAT AS WELL.

YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS.

BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A REVISION TO OUR, OUR CODE.

SO, SO WE HAVE A, A APPLICANT WHO COMES, WHO WOULD LIKE TO BRING A DATA CENTER AND IF IT'S NOT IN OUR CODE, WE CAN STILL DO A PROCESS.

UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THE TEXT AMENDMENT AND, AND PROPOSE THAT MM-HMM.

SO THIS CAME ABOUT AS A JOINT, UH, REQUEST, UH, WITH THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN.

BOTH HAVE CONSIDERED IT AND IF IT IS TURNED DOWN, YOU JUST VOTE.

NO STAFF'S NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH IT UNLESS THE BOARD SO DIRECTS BECAUSE WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS, STAFF CAN BE WORKING THEIR TIME ON MORE PRODUCTIVELY.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GOING OFF UNLESS THE BOARD DIRECTS WE'RE NOT GOING OFF AND DOING ANY MORE, UH, UM, DATA CENTERS.

AND IF SOMEONE WANTS TO COME IN AS AN APPLICANT, AS MRS. LOGAN SAID, THEN THEY MAKE THAT APPLICATION, THEY PAY FOR IT AND THEY MAKE THEIR CASE.

AND YOU WOULD, FROM WHAT THE BOARD HAS BEEN SAYING THE LAST COUPLE TIMES, YOU WOULD MAKE THIS SOME TYPE OF A CONDITIONAL USE,

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WHATEVER IT WOULD BE.

BUT YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT THEY WERE BUILDING IS THE IMPRESSION WE GOT IS THE BOARD REALLY WANTED TO HEAR WHAT IT IS THAT THE APPLICANT WAS GOING TO DO THERE AND WHAT COMMITMENTS THEY WERE MAKING.

MM-HMM.

SO THAT BEING SAID, WE WE'RE DONE WITH THIS UNLESS YOU TELL US OTHERWISE.

MADAM CHAIR, COULD I MAKE A MOTION? ABS OH, COULD I ASK ONE, ONE LAST QUESTION IF YOU DON'T MIND.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

WELL, THERE'S MORE TO THIS, UH, THERE'S MORE TO THIS REVISION THAN JUST DATA CENTERS.

I MEAN WE, WE'VE TAUGHT, UH, IT'S BEEN, IT'S INTRODUCING, YOU KNOW, LIKE INDUSTRIAL AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER NEW ADDITIONS TO THIS.

SO, YOU KNOW, FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR NOT APPROVING TO GO ANY FURTHER WITH THIS.

WHAT DOES THAT DO WITH ALL THE OTHER REVISIONS THAT THEY, THAT WE HAVE PUT IN? I, I THINK THEY, THEY PRETTY MUCH ALL CAME ABOUT BECAUSE OF THE DATA CENTER.

SO I THINK THEY STAY TOGETHER.

MISS MRS. LOGAN, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT INDUSTRIAL COVERS EVERY, ALL OF THIS ALREADY.

THAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WAS SPECIFICALLY INTENDED TO ADDRESS THE DATA CENTER REQUEST.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

UH, BUT, BUT OUR CURRENT INDUSTRIAL ZONE DOES NOT ADDRESS DATA CENTERS.

SO, SO IT WOULD BE ADDRESSED SO SHOULD ONE, SO HYPOTHETICALLY MM-HMM.

SHOULD A DATA CENTER PROPOSAL COME TO THE COUNTY, THEY COULD PROPOSE IT UNDER THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE THAT'S CORRECTS THAT WE, THAT EXIST ALREADY.

THEY WOULD JUST HAVE TO COME TO THE BOARD AND SEEK A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THAT PARTICULAR USE AND THEN DESCRIBE EXACTLY SIZE AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING ON THE SPECIFIC PROPERTY.

CORRECT? WITH THE TEXT AMENDMENT.

WITH THE TEXT AMENDMENT, YES.

SO THERE IS NO NEED TO TAKE THIS ANY FURTHER THAN IT IS CURRENTLY.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND FOR THAT REASON I'D LIKE TO MOVE MAY I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS NOT ADOPT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND RE ORDAINED SECTION 180 DASH EIGHT AND 180 DASH 28.

AND TO ADD AN ORDAINED SECTIONS 180 DASH 28 1 AND 180 DASH 43.3 OF THE WARREN COUNTY COAT.

SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. MABE? AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MR. BUTLER? AYE.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS AND FOR THE NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.

NOW

[L. Consent Agenda]

SO, UM, IS, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PULL FOR DISCUSSION? NOPE.

SO VERY GOOD.

SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES, MADAM CHAIR.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

THE SECOND.

SECOND.

HEY, WE HAVE ROLL HALL PLEASE.

MR. BUTLER.

AYE MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MADAME CHAIR? AYE.

MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS THE 2023 MEETING POLICY AND PROCEDURES AND PUBLIC HEARING GUIDELINES.

MR. MAID? AYE.

VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.

OKAY, THEN WE'RE

[M. 2023 Meeting Policy and Procedures and Public Hearing Guidelines - Ed Daley, County Administrator]

UM, DR.

DALEY, I'M GONNA GIVE THAT BACK TO MR. HAM MA'AM BECAUSE HE, HE, HE WENT THROUGH THAT, WHAT HE WENT THROUGH WITH YOU EARLIER AT THE WORK SESSION.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ASK ABOUT? YEAH.

AND SO I THINK WHAT I'LL ALL I'D LIKE TO SAY IS THAT THE ONE THAT WOULD BE ADOPTED WOULD INCLUDE THE DELETION OF THE LAST SENTENCE IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF SECTION THREE DASH THREE AND DELETING LANGUAGE THAT SAYS, NOTWITHSTANDING A BOARD MEMBER MAY ASK FOR DISCUSSION OF ONE OR MORE ITEMS OF THE CONSENT AGENDA WITHOUT REMOVAL OF THAT ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA PER THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD IN THE WORK SESSION.

SO THAT IF THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT SOMETHING ON A CONSENT AGENDA, THE PROCEDURE WOULD ONLY BE TO REMOVE IT FROM IT AND NOT TO SORT OF DO THIS HYBRID OF TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.

AND THEN ALSO TO ADD THIS LANGUAGE AT THE END OF THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF SECTION SIX DASH TWO, UM, WHICH FOLLOWS THE SENTENCE THAT SAYS, IN THE EVENT THAT AN ACTION OR ACTIONS MAY BE NECESSARY WITHOUT THE READY CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD, THE CHAIRMAN SHALL HAVE THE DISCRETION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO TAKE INTERIM MEASURES UNTIL THE BOARD CAN MEET OR MAKE ANY NECESSARY DECISION.

AND THEN WE WOULD ADD THIS LANGUAGE.

NOTICE OF SUCH ACTIONS SHALL BE GIVEN TO ALL OTHER SUPERVISORS AS SOON AS PRACTICABLE.

AND SO IF SOMEONE WAS GOING TO, UH, MOVE TO ADOPT THE PROCEDURES, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THEY ADD THOSE TWO ITEMS BY SIMPLY REFERRING TO ADDING THE ITEMS REFERRED TO BY MR. HAM AND HIS COMMENTS.

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SO MOVED.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? NO OTHER DISCUSSIONS.

UM, CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. MABE? AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MR. BUTLER? AYE.

SO THE NEXT ITEM IS, UM, UH, UH, AWARD RECOMMENDATION FOR THE FIXED BASED OPERATOR AND AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE HANGAR SERVICE FOR OUR AIRPORT.

SO THE NEXT ITEM WAS WE, WE REMOVED IT FROM, IF I'M GONNA SAY THIS CORRECTLY, WE'VE ALREADY REMOVED THE O UM, CLOSED SESSION OFF THE AGENDA CUZ WE, WE DID IT DURING THE WORK SESSION.

SO WE'RE GONNA SKIP OVER, UM, ITEM ZERO, UM, O AND WE SKIPPED IN.

[N. Award Recommendation for Fixed Base Operator and Aircraft Maintenance Hangar Services - Alisa Scott, Deputy Finance Director, Mike Berry, Public Works Director]

UM, MS. SCOTT AND YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

UM, THE COUNTY'S FINANCE AND PURCHASING DEPARTMENT RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM COUNTY ADMINISTRATION TO PROCURE FIXED BASED OPERATOR AND AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE SERVICES.

THE PROCUREMENT METHOD USED WAS COMPETITIVE NEGOTIATION AND THE COUNTY RECEIVED THREE SEALED PROPOSALS.

AN EVALUATION TEAM MET WITH THE TOP RANKED FIRMS AND NEGOTIATIONS PROCEEDED WITH THE TOP RANKED FIRM.

FIRST STAFF RECOMMENDS THE BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVE THE ATTACHED CONTRACT FOR SERVICES WITH SILENT FALCON FOR FBO SERVICES AND WITH AERO SERVICE SERVICES LLC FOR AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE SERVICES.

THE AGREEMENT WITH AERO SERVICES MAY ALSO BE CONSIDERED A LEASE OF COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY AND WILL THEREFORE BE PROPERLY ADVERTISED AT A LATER DATE.

THE REQUEST IS JUST TO APPROVE THE AWARD FOR AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE SERVICES.

THIS RECOMMENDATION IS PURSUANT TO THE SOLICITATION, THE COUNTY'S PROCUREMENT POLICY AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE V P P A.

ALSO ATTACHED TO THIS MEMO IS A CONSENSUS LETTER SIGNED BY THE MEMBERS OF THE EVALUATION TEAM.

THE ANNUAL COST OF THE FIXED BASED OPERATOR SERVICES IS A PROPOSED $21,000.

THE AWARD TO AERO SERVICES LLC IS A PROPOSED REVENUE GENERATION OF $9,600 FOR THE MAINTENANCE HANGAR RENTAL.

AND WITH THAT SYNOPSIS, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ANYONE HAS.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, SO READING, READING THIS PART OF THIS GOES TO PUBLIC HEARING.

SO WE ARE BASICALLY SAYING IT ALL GOES WELL WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE DON'T WILL WE VOTE ON THAT PORTION AGAIN OR DOES THIS MOTION COVER THAT? UH, THIS MOTION WOULD COVER THE AWARD FOR THE CONTRACT FOR SERVICES WITH ALLEN FALCON AND ALSO, UM, IT WOULD SHOW THE INTENT TO AWARD THE CONTRACT TO AERO SERVICES THAT WOULD ALSO BE CONSIDERED A LEASE.

UM, AND SO THAT ACTUAL AWARD WE, WE MADE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING AS REQUIRED BY THE VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 15.2, UH, 1800.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? UH, MADAM CHAIR, I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.

WAS THERE ANYBODY WHAT THAT, UH, MENTIONED ANYTHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, FLIGHT SCHOOLS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT? UH, FLIGHT TRAINING WAS NOT A MAJOR COMPONENT OF THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.

RIGHT.

UH, IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED IN PROVIDING THAT SERVICE AT THE AIRPORT, THEY COULD REACH OUT TO OUR SUPERINTENDENT OR MR. BERRY WITH PUBLIC WORKS.

ALL RIGHT, SUPER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, JUST ONE.

MM-HMM .

AND JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THIS IS BASED OFF OF A BUDGET THAT THIS, THE AIRPORT IS NOW SELF-SUSTAINING ITSELF.

WE ARE NOT TAKING TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO, TO PAY FOR THESE.

THAT IS CORRECT.

NO TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT, MA'AM.

SO I WILL NOTE, UM, JUST UNDER THE LEASE AGREEMENT, IF YOU GO OUT TO THE LEASE AGREEMENT, THERE'S A TYPO IN THE SECOND LINE WHICH SAYS, FRONT ROYAL WAR COUNTY .

W A R R Y , YOU MIGHT WANNA FIX THAT JUST BEFORE IT, IT GETS POSTED INTO RECORDS.

WILL DO.

OKAY, ANY OTHER, OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, DISCUSSIONS? NO.

A ACTUAL AWARD WILL BE MADE AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING AS REQUIRED BY CODE OF VIRGINIA SECTION 15.2 DASH 1800.

UM, SO IS THERE A MOTION MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE AWARDING CONTRACT FOR SERVICES WITH SOLID FALCON FOR FIXED BASED OP OPERATOR SERVICES AND MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SHOW ITS OFFICIAL INTER INTENT TO AWARD THE CONTRACTOR ERROR SERVICES LLC.

AND THAT SUCH

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DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND THERE? UM, MAY WE HAVE A POLL PLEASE? MR. BUTLER? AYE.

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WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS.

DO WE HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS THAT WE'D LIKE TO DISCUSS? COUPLE OF APPOINTMENTS MA'AM, THAT YOU DISCUSSED IN THE CLOSED SESSION.

OH, SO DO, UM, PLEASE HELP ME THROUGH THIS.

SO WE DID MAKE SOME APPOINTMENTS.

IS THAT YOU, THE BOARD INDICATED IT WANTED TO REAPPOINT UH, STEVEN JEROME TO THE SOCIAL SERVICES BOARD? CORRECT.

AND TO APPOINT MR. JAMES WELLS TO THE UNEXPIRED TERM AT LAUREL RIDGE COMMUNITY COLLEGE.

AND IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE THAT MOTION, IF THEY CAN ADD AND THEY CAN BE DONE ON THE SAME MOTION AND THAT THE AGENDA BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE SUCH ACTIONS.

SO MOVED.

ONE ONE ITEM OF NOTE THAT I DON'T THINK THAT WE COVERED IS, WHEN DOES MR. WELL'S TERM EXPIRE? CUZ HE'S TAKING AN HONOR, HE'S TAKING AN EXISTING TERM, CORRECT? YES.

SO WHEN DOES THAT EXPIRE? DOES ANYBODY KNOW? SHE'S GOT ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF LEFT.

PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT.

I DON'T THINK I NOTED THAT WHEN NO, YEAH, WHEN I LOOKED AT IT.

BUT HE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR REAPPOINTMENT, SO, AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SEE HOW SOON HE'D BE ELIGIBLE FOR REAPPOINTMENT.

SO DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. MABE? AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE MRS. COLORS? AYE MR. BUTLER? AYE.

SO IF THERE'S NO, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR ANYTHING, ANY NEW BUSINESS, UM, I, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN OUR MEETING.

SO MOVED.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYONE.