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SHOULD BE WITH US

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SOON.

SO WE'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND, AND START THE MEETING.

OKAY.

[B. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America ]

SO WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING DATED FEBRUARY 21ST, 2023.

UM, WE HAVE JUST CLOSED OUR CLOSED SESSION, SO WE'RE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.

OH, HELLO, MR. BUTLER.

I WON'T LIKE TO OPEN WITH PRAYER.

THIS IS VER THIS IS VERY SPECIAL NIGHT.

IT IS THE, UH, IT'S EVE OF ASH WEDNESDAY.

IT ALSO IS THE EVE OF THE, UH, BIRTHDAY OF THE FATHER OF OUR COUNTRY, GEORGE WASHINGTON.

LET US PRAY.

BEHOLD, OH GOD, THIS BELOVED COUNTY OF OURS, THE OLD AND THE YOUNG, THE LITTLE CHILDREN, THE RICH AND THE POOR, IGNORANT AND LEARNED, THE LABORERS AND FARMERS AND THE MANAGERS OF INDUSTRY WORKERS IN THE FACTORIES AND, AND THE OFFICE AND AND IN THE HOMES.

A PEOPLE OF MANY TRADITIONS ARE IN THIS COUNTY OF MANY COLORS.

DIVERGENT HOPES, MANY FEARS, BEHOLD AMERICA.

IT IS THE MOUNTAINS, IT IS THE RIVERS, IT'S THE PASTURES, IT'S THE FOREST, AND IT'S THE SHINING RIVERS OF OUR SHENANDOAH UPON THIS LAND AND UPON THESE PEOPLE, POUR DOWN, WE BEECH SEAT I, LIFE GIVING SPIRIT OF NOBILITY AND TRUTH WHERE THERE IS STRIFE, BRAIN COOPERATION FOR COMMON GOOD WHERE THERE IS GREED AND ENVY ABOUND CONTROL US WITH A DIVINE PERSPECTIVE, WHICH SEES IN EVERY MAN THE DIGNITY OF THE GROWING SOUL.

WHERE INTEREST CLASH GOVERN US WITH HIGHER IMPULSES, WHICH SEEKS FIRST BY RIGHTEOUSNESS, BURN AWAY THE FESTERING CORRUPTION AND SET US FREE.

THAT WE MAY ENJOY THE LIBERTY OF THE CHILDREN OF GOD, THAT WE MAY BOAST NOT OF OUR MONEY OR OUR MIGHT, BUT OF OUR PRIVILEGE TO BE A PART OF THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND OF THIS COUNTY OF WARREN.

BEHOLD, OH GOD, THIS COUNTY.

BLESS IT, MAKE IT STRONG, MAKE IT PURE, AND FILL IT WITH BEAUTY, WITH THE BEAUTY OF HOLINESS.

AND THROUGH JESUS CHRIST WE PRAY.

AMEN.

AMEN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

WILL EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PLEDGE, PLEDGE OF PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[C. Adoption of Agenda – Additions or Deletions ]

NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE ADOPTING OF OUR AGENDA.

DOES ANYBODY AT THE BOARD HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? MADAM CHAIR, I, UH, MOVE TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

THANK YOU.

SAY AGAIN.

SORRY.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. MABE.

AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MADAME CHAIR? AYE.

MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MR. BUTLER? AYE.

THANK YOU.

NICK'S

[D. Resolution of Appreciation Honoring Ronald G. Harvey - Dan Lenz ]

ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.

IT'S A RESOLUTION OF APPRECIATION HONORING RONALD, RONALD G. HARVEY AND MR. LINZ.

THANK YOU.

SO RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF WARREN COUNTY HONORING RONALD G. HARVEY, WARREN COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION AT LARGE DIRECTOR.

WHEREAS RONALD G. HARVEY WAS APPOINTED TO THE WARREN COUNTY FRONT ROYAL RECREATION ASSO WARREN COUNTY FRONT ROYAL RECREATION ASSOCIATION IN NOVEMBER, 1969 AND WAS APPOINTED THE FIRST WARREN COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION AT LARGE DIRECTOR ON MARCH 1ST, 2004.

AND WHEREAS RONALD G. HARVEY THROUGH BOTH HIS CHARACTER AND PERFORMANCE HAS SIGNIFICANTLY CONTRIBUTED TO THE ADVANCEMENT OF THE WARREN COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION VISION OF WARREN COUNTY.

AND WHEREAS RONALD G. HARVEY ESTABLISHED A LONG-STANDING POPULAR YOUTH TENNIS LESSONS AND TOURNAMENTS PROGRAM FOR OVER 40 YEARS, ENABLING THE YOUTH TO LEARN AND APPRECIATE THE BENEFITS OF THE SPORT OF TENNIS IN WARREN COUNTY.

AND WHEREAS RONALD G. HARVEY ASSISTED THE PARKS RECREATION DEPARTMENT STAFF WERE SUPPLYING

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INPUT ON THE OPERATION, PLANNING AND MAINTENANCE OF THE PARK SYSTEM AND MADE RECOMMENDATIONS ON FACILITIES, BUDGETS, SCHEDULING USER FEES AND SET REGULATIONS, PROVIDING THE BOARD SUPERVISORS AND THE COMMUNITY HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING IN THE PRESENT STATUS AND FUTURE PLANS OF THE PARK SYSTEM SO THAT THE FUTURE BUDGETS FACILITY PLANNING, UH, CAN BE A KNOWLEDGEABLE PART OF THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OVERALL PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN.

AND WHEREAS RONALD G. HARVEY HAS ANNOUNCED HIS RETIREMENT AS WARREN COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION AT LARGE DIRECTOR EFFECTIVE JANUARY 9TH, 2023.

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISOR EXPRESSES ITS SINCERE APPRECIATION TO RE G HARVEY FOR THE OUTSTANDING LEADERSHIP AND SERVICE WHICH HE HAS UNSELFISHLY GIVEN ON BEHALF OF ITS CITIZENS OF WARREN COUNTY FOR THE PAST 53 YEARS AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD SUPERVISORS HOLDS RONALD G. HARVEY IN HIS HIGHEST ESTEEM AS AN HONORABLE MEMBER OF THE WARREN COUNTY PARKS AND REC, PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION, WHO HAS REPEATEDLY DEMONSTRATED HIS COMMITMENT TO WARREN COUNTY AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS EXTENDS TO RONALD C. HARVEY.

ITS DEEP PERSONAL APPRECIATION AND SINCERE GRATITUDE FOR HIS DEDICATED EFFORTS ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY FOR THE BENEFITS OF OF ALL OF ITS CITIZENS AND BE IT FINAL RESOLVED THAT THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION FIRMS THAT ROUND G HARVEY IS WORTHY OF RECEIVING DEPARTMENT PARKS RECREATION HIGHEST AWARD AND HEREBY CONFERS THE DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARD UPON ROUND G HARVEY ADOPTED THIS 21ST DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2022.

CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

WE'LL COME UP WITH HER.

YEP.

SORRY, .

THANK YOU.

, GO WITH THE MOTION TO ACCEPTING THE RESOLUTION.

I THINK SO.

MR. HARVEY, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER LEGACY TO LEAVE TO YOUNG PEOPLE THAN THE ONE THAT YOU HAVE LEFT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

OOPS.

VERY WELL.

SO THIS IS A, UH, A NEW, UM, THING FOR ME.

SO I APOLOGIZE EVERYBODY.

SO DO I GO AHEAD AND, UM, ASK FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS RESOLUTION.

MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR ADOPT A PROPOSED RESOLUTION HONORING RONALD G. HARVEY WARREN COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION OF MISSION AT LARGE DIRECTOR FOR HIS YEARS OF SERVICE UPON HIS RETIREMENT.

THANK YOU.

SO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, MR. ROCKY ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. BUTLER? AYE.

MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MADAME CHAIR? AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MR. MABE? AYE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

AND LET ME GET MY LITTLE CHEAT SHEET OUT HERE.

OKAY.

THIS A REMINDER WITH EVERYBODY.

THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO GIVE INPUT ON ANY RE REV REVELENT ISSUE, NOT THE SUBJECT OF A PUBLIC HEARING.

AND IT IS NOT INTENDED AS A QUESTION AND ANSWER.

THE PUBLIC COMMENT SHALL BE LIMITED TO 60 MINUTES WITH A MAXIMUM THREE MINUTES FOR, FOR EACH SPEAKER.

UH, THE SPEAKERS WILL ONLY SPEAK ONCE AND WILL BE HEARD IN THE ORDER AS THEY HAVE SIGNED UP.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, MS. ROCKY, HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND AND SPEAK? NO.

ONE MORE TIME.

FINAL CALL.

VERY WELL PUBLIC COMMENT.

PERIOD IS CLOSE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, MOVING

[F. Report from the Virginia Department of Transportation - Ed Carter ]

ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.

IS

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THE REPORT FROM, UH, VDOT, IS MR. CARTER HERE OR ANY REPRESENTATIVE FROM VDOT TO HAVE A REPORT? I THINK ONE WAS ISSUED, IS THAT CORRECT? THERE IS ONE.

THERE IS ONE ON IT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

DO WE WANT TO, LET'S PULL IT UP HERE.

HAS THE BOARD HEAD OUT? IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO REVIEW IT FOR THE I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY YEAH.

YEP.

LET'S, I'LL GO AHEAD AND, AND, AND READ THE REPORT AND IFIT HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE CHIME IN.

SO FOR THE MAINTENANCE, UH, VIDOT HAS CONDUCTED SHOULDER REPAIRS ON VARIOUS PRIMARY AND SECONDARY ROUTES AND WILL CONTINUE THIS MONTH.

THEY HAVE PERFORMED, PERFORMED GRADING OPERATIONS IN STONE APPLICATION ON VARIOUS NON-HARD SURFACE ROADS AND WILL CONTINUE THIS MONTH AS NEEDED.

UH, THEY HAVE CONTINUED WITH BRUSH CUTTING OPERATIONS ON VARIOUS ROUTES AND WILL CONTINUE THIS MONTH.

THEY HAVE RESPONDED TO POTHOLE COMPLAINTS AND PREFERRED LITTER PICKUP AND HAVE SCHEDULED ADDITIONAL LITTER PICKUP THIS MONTH.

THEY HAVE MOBILIZED FOR SEVERAL WEATHER EVENTS.

UH, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM HERE IS THE BOARD ISSUES.

SO BROWNTOWN ROAD, UH, THEY'VE MET WITH CITIZENS WITH THE CITIZENS GROUP ON JANUARY 9TH AND RODE THE ROUTE WITH TRAFFIC ENGINEERING ON JANUARY 11TH.

BOC WILL BE IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THE SYSTEMATIC RECOMMENDATIONS AS SOON AS THEY RECEIVE THE FINAL REPORT FROM TRAFFIC ENGINEERING SOMETIME IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS WITH THAT? NOPE.

OKAY.

MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

ROUTE 55, JOHN MARSHALL HIGHWAY AT HO KNOT.

SAFETY IS STILL WORKING ON THE DESIGN FOR THE, UH, PREVENTIVE WARNING LIGHTS FOR TURNING VEHICLES.

EXPECT TO HAVE THE FINAL DESIGN IN TIME FOR INSTALLATION THIS YEAR.

ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? NO.

OKAY.

ONTO THE NEXT CONCRETE MEDIAN AT ROUTE 55 CLUB ROADHOUSE ROAD REFLECTIVE COVER DID NOT LAST.

TRAFFIC ENGINEERING SUGGESTED PAINT WITH REFLECTIVE PEARLS AS THE NEXT OPTION.

ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD WITH THAT? NOPE.

OKAY.

NEXT ITEM.

SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN.

OH, JAMO JAMO ACCESS IS EXPECTED SHORTLY.

MR. CARTER WILL BE ASKING FOR AN IN-PERSON MEETING WITH THE BOARD TO DISCUSS WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS.

I ASSUME THIS IS THE, UH, SEC THE SIX YEAR PLAN.

IS THAT RIGHT MR. MARY? THAT THEY WANTED US TO DO A FINAL REVIEW AND APPROVE TO GO ON THE NEXT FOLLOW ON TWO YEARS IF I'M CORRECT.

OKAY.

OH, WE DO IT EACH HERE.

OKAY.

SO, UM, IS, UH, DOES ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS WITH THIS LAST YEAR? I DO.

UM, DO WE HAVE HIS, MR. CARTER SAID WHETHER HE'S GONNA START ATTENDING ANY OF THESE MEETINGS SO WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS IN PERSON OF HIM? MR. CARTER HAS SAID HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND IN THE EVENING MEETINGS.

HMM.

THAT'S INTERESTING.

IT WAS AN EVENING MEETING HE MET IN BROWNTOWN, BUT BE THAT AS IT MAY, UM, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO COMMUNICATE.

I MEAN, EMAILS ARE WHAT THEY ARE.

UM, IT'S, I ALWAYS LIKE IN PERSON VERSUS, UH, JUST EMAILS.

BUT, UM, I GUESS I WILL SEND MY QUESTIONS TO HIM BECAUSE I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, OF WHAT IT IS HE PLANS TO DO ON BROWNTOWN ROAD IN DIFFERENT THINGS.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

EMAIL.

IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN GET SOMEONE ELSE TO COME IN THE EVENINGS? WE CAN ASK AGAIN, THEY INDICATED THOUGH, WHEN WE FIRST ASKED BACK IN JANUARY AND FOR WHAT REASON THEY DON'T, THEY JUST DON'T DO EVENING MEETINGS, BOARD COUNTY MEETINGS DURING THE DAY.

THEY DON'T COME DURING THE EVENINGS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

COULD YOU ASK ONE MORE TIME AND IF THEY, IF THEY CONTINUE, WELL IF, IF THAT'S THEIR POSITION, THEN WE NEED TO, UM, DECIDE HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THESE THINGS.

MM-HMM.

, WELL, THEY CERTAINLY COULD DO SOMETHING VIA MEET TEAMS OR, OR ZOOM.

UM, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

WE DO THAT WITH OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE OUT OF THE AREA.

YEAH.

I'M NOT PRIOR TO DEFENDANT, BUT I'M, YEAH.

WELL, AND I'M NOT ASKING, BUT I'M SUGGESTING PERHAPS WE SAY IF IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO DRIVE HERE AFTER HOURS, IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE PERHAPS TO GET ON A COMPUTER SCREEN AND TALK TO US, UM, REMOTELY, I KNOW POLICIES AND PROCEDURES CHANGED, BUT I THINK YEARS AGO THEY DID ATTEND EVENING MEETINGS.

MM-HMM.

, I THINK, UM,

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THAT, YOU KNOW, USED TO BE THE SUPER, THE LOCAL SUPERINTENDENT WOULD DO THESE AND I'M PRETTY SURE MR. KAISER USED TO COME AT NIGHT, BUT MAYBE THAT'S CHANGED AS FAR AS POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.

BUT IT CERTAINLY DOES PUT US AT A DISADVANTAGE AND OR, UM, AND I'M HOPING WHEN WE PLAN THIS SIX YEAR ROAD STUDY THAT IT'S A TRUE WORKING SESSION AND DISCUSSION OF THESE ROADS INSTEAD OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.

CUZ IT'S NOT WHAT WE HAD PRIOR TO THAT.

OKAY.

SO DR.

DALEY, YOU'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THEM AND THEN ONCE WE GET THE ANSWER, THEN WE WILL GET TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN CONTINUE FORWARD.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NO.

ALL RIGHT.

[G. Report from the Department of Social Services - Jon Martz ]

SO THE NEXT ITEM IS THE REPORT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES.

MR. MARTS.

HELLO MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, WE'RE PLEASED TO BE HERE TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION WITH YOU, UNITE.

UH, WE WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE UNWINDING OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY.

UH, YOU RECALL BACK IN 2020 WHEN COVID CAME UPON OUR SHORES, A UM, STATE OF EMERGENCY WAS DECLARED A PHD PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY.

IN DECEMBER OF 2022, THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS DE-LINKED SOCIAL SERVICES FROM THE PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY.

THE PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY IS ONGOING, HOWEVER, ALL OF THE ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT WERE, UM, GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC THROUGH SOCIAL SERVICES WILL BE ENDING.

AND WE WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU TONIGHT.

A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, UH, MARCH 25TH, 2020, ALL SNAP RECIPIENTS, UH, BEGAN RECEIVING SUPPLEMENTAL ALLOTMENTS, WHICH MEANS THEY WOULD GET THEIR NORMAL SNAP AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH, BUT THEN THEY WOULD GET AN ADDITIONAL ALLOTMENT HALFWAY THROUGH THE MONTH, WHICH WOULD TAKE THEM UP TO THE MAXIMUM THAT THEY COULD RECEIVE FOR THEIR FAMILY SIZE.

AND SINCE MARCH, 2020, EVERYBODY WHO'S GETTING SNAP HAS BEEN GETTING THAT ALLOTMENT.

UH, FEDERAL STIMULUS PAYMENTS THAT WE ALL REMEMBER WERE NOT COUNTED AS INCOME CUZ SNAP IS AN INCOME BASED PROGRAM.

THE MORE YOU EARN, TYPICALLY THE LESS YOU GET IN SNAP.

UM, ALL SNAP INTERVIEWS WERE WAIVED.

UH, WE WERE ABLE TO PROCESS APPLICATIONS JUST WITH THE, UM, INFORMATION THAT WE NEEDED.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TO HOLD AN INTERVIEW WITH THEM.

NOW, AS OF MARCH 1ST, 2023, FEDERAL REGULATIONS WILL BE LIFTED AND HOUSEHOLDS WILL RESUME RECEIVING THE NORMAL SNAP ALLOTMENT.

SO THEY'LL GET THEIR NORMAL SNAP ALLOTMENT THE FIRST OF THE MONTH, AND THAT'S IT.

THEY WILL NOT BE GETTING THE ALLOTMENT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MONTH.

UM, CURRENTLY HERE IN WARREN COUNTY, THERE ARE 2000 HOUSEHOLDS AND ABOUT 5,000 PEOPLE WHO ARE RECEIVING SNAP.

AND THIS IS GONNA AFFECT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS SENT OUT LETTERS TO ANYBODY RECEIVING SNAP, LETTING THEM KNOW THIS.

UM, IT'S TYPICAL GOVERNMENT SPEAK IN THE LETTERS, AND THEY'RE VERY CONFUSING, HARD TO UNDERSTAND.

BUT WE ALREADY HAVE STARTED RECEIVING PHONE CALLS, UH, FROM THE PUBLIC TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THIS IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.

UH, CURRENTLY, IF YOU HAVE A HOUSEHOLD OF FOUR AND YOU QUALIFY FOR SNAP, YOU RECEIVE $939 A MONTH IN SNAP HALF OF ABOUT HALF THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH, AND THE OTHER HALF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MONTH.

AS OF MARCH 1ST, THAT'S GONNA GO DOWN TO ABOUT $490 A MONTH.

AND THAT IS BASED ON, UM, INCOME AMOUNT, BASED ON THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLD, SORRY, THAT IS BASED ON INCOME OF THE HOUSEHOLD.

SO THAT'S ASSUMING ONE PERSON IN THE HOUSEHOLD IS WORKING A MINIMUM WAGE JOB.

THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO EARN MINIMUM WAGE JOBS WORK 29 HOURS A WEEK OR LESS BECAUSE THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT SAYS IF YOU WORK 30 HOURS A WEEK OR MORE, YOUR EMPLOYER HAS TO PROVIDE INSURANCE TO YOU.

SO USING A 29 HOUR WEEK, WORK WEEK AT THE NEW MINIMUM WAGE OF $12 AN HOUR, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT YOUR INCOME WOULD BE ABOUT $1,496 A MONTH, AND YOUR SNAP'S GONNA DECREASE BY ABOUT HALF.

THIS IS ESPECIALLY GONNA HIT SOME OF OUR SENIORS.

UH, SOME OF OUR SENIORS ARE RIGHT NOW IN THE HOUSEHOLD OF ONE ARE GETTING $281 A MONTH.

THEY'RE GONNA GO DOWN TO 23.

WE'VE ALL BEEN TO THE GROCERY STORE LATELY.

YOU CAN MAYBE BUY A DOZEN EGGS

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FOR $23.

UH, SO THIS IS GOING TO HIT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR CING.

WHAT IS, SO WHAT'S THE INCOME CEILING? THE INCOME LEVEL, IF YOU GO BACK TO YOUR OTHER SLIDE.

SO WHAT, OH, I SEE IT RIGHT HERE.

I'M SORRY.

BASED ON A MONTHLY INCOME OF 14, 1400 A MONTH.

YES.

A LOT OF OUR PEOPLE HAVE LESS.

BASICALLY SNAP IS GONNA GO BACK TO, UH, HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE COMING IN, HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE GOING OUT? UH, THE LESS YOU HAVE COMING IN, THE MORE YOU HAVE GOING OUT, THE MORE SNAP YOU'RE ELIGIBLE FOR.

HOWEVER, THE MORE YOU HAVE COMING IN, THE LESS SNAP YOU'RE GONNA BE ELIGIBLE FOR.

THANK YOU.

UH, UH, NOW, NOW YOU, YOU SAY THAT THIS IS BASED ON, UH, UH, $12 AN HOUR FOR 29 HOURS A WEEK.

YES, SIR.

AND, UH, IT'S, UH, DUE TO, UH, 80 ACA.

UH, ARE THERE, DO YOU KNOW OF ANY INSTANCES WHERE SOMEBODY IS WORKING MAYBE 20, 25 HOURS A WEEK, UH, AT ONE JOB AND THEN THEY'VE GOT ANOTHER JOB THAT THEY'RE DOING THE SAME THING? YES, SIR.

SO, SO INSTEAD OF BRINGING IN 1400, 9, 1500, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BRINGING IN 3000 MM-HMM.

? YES, SIR.

THAT, UH, A LOT OF OUR CLIENTS DO WORK TWO JOBS.

IN, IN THE INSTANCE THAT YOU GAVE, THEY'RE MORE THAN LIKELY THEY WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR SNAP AT ALL MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE OVER THE INCOME LIMIT.

SO THEN SNAP TAKES A LOOK AT ALL INCOME THAT YES, SIR.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S ALL HOUSEHOLD INCOME AS WELL.

ALL HOUSEHOLD INCOME.

A HOUSEHOLD IS DEFINED AS A GROUP OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THE SAME PLACE WHO PURCHASE AND PREPARE THEIR FOOD TOGETHER.

SO GENERALLY PARENTS AND CHILDREN.

UH, BUT SHE COULD HAVE A HOUSEHOLD WITH TWO INDEPENDENT FAMILIES LIVING TOGETHER.

THAT HAPPENS A LOT.

WHERE EACH OF 'EM, THEY BUY THEIR OWN FOOD AND THEY PREPARE IT SEPARATELY.

THEY CAN HAVE THEIR OWN SNAP ACCOUNT.

IT'S ALL ABOUT WHO EATS TOGETHER AND WHO PURCHASES TOGETHER.

I BROKE IT.

THE WINDOW, THE WINDOW BACK THERE POINTED AT THE WINDOW.

IT WAS WORKING A MINUTE AGO.

YOU LOOKED AT IT CROOKED.

THERE.

WE, WE GO THERE.

OKAY.

UM, MEDICAID IS GONNA BE AFFECTED AS WELL.

UH, DURING THE PANDEMIC, YOU COULD NOT HAVE YOUR MEDICAID TURNED OFF FOR ANY FOUR MOST REASONS.

THERE ARE ONLY FOUR WAYS YOUR MEDICAID COULD BE TURNED OFF.

AND THAT IS IF YOU PASSED AWAY, IF YOU REQUESTED, WE RETURN OFF YOUR MEDICAID.

UH, IF YOU MOVED OUT OF VIRGINIA OR IF YOU WERE INCARCERATED, THOSE ARE THE ONLY WAYS THAT YOUR MEDICAID COULD BE TURNED OFF.

DIDN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR INCOME WAS, UH, DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD, IF YOU HAD MEDICAID AT THE TIME, YOU GOT MEDICAID THROUGHOUT.

THAT IS ALSO GONNA CHANGE.

NOW, UM, AS WELL, PART B PREMIUM WAS AUTOMATICALLY PAID FOR THOSE WHO TURNED 65.

AND, UM, IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY WHO'S GETTING THAT PART B, MEDICAID, THAT'S A CHUNK OF CHANGE EVERY MONTH.

MM-HMM.

, UH, THAT IS GOING TO STOP AS WELL.

UH, INDIVIDUALS ARE GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THEIR OWN PREMIUM.

SO THEN, SO THEN THIS, THE, UH, THE, UH, PART B PREMIUM THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS GONNA STOP.

AND, AND WHAT IS THAT? UH, YOU SAY IT'S A CHUNK OF CHANGE.

WHAT IS IT, 150, 200 OR SOMEWHERE AROUND IN THERE, OR A FEW YEARS AGO IT WAS $107 A MONTH.

OKAY.

107? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT IS NOW.

UM, BUT THAT'S WHEN MY PARENTS WERE PAYING IT.

THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE PAYING 107 A MONTH.

I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE LEVEL OF COVERAGE THAT IS REQUIRED AND, AND THE, IT'S BASED SIMILARLY TO REGULAR INSURANCE.

SO IF YOU ARE ILL, YOU'RE GOING TO PAY MORE.

UM, I DO KNOW MY FAMILY MEMBERS PAY IN EXCESS OF $240 A MONTH WOW.

FOR ONE PERSON.

SO IT, IT IS SIZABLE AMOUNT.

AND, AND THAT IS GOING AWAY.

YES, SIR.

BUT THAT'S JUST FOR MEDICAID, NOT FOR MEDICARE OR MEDICARE THAT YOU AUTOMATICALLY PAY FOR IT ANYWAY.

THE, THE MEDICARE, RIGHT.

THAT'S THROUGH SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION.

THAT INSURANCE IS NOT CHANGING.

THE ONLY THING IT'S CHANGING IS THAT MEDICAID WAS PAYING THAT DEDUCTIBLE FOR YOU.

RIGHT.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ANYMORE.

UH, AS OF APRIL 1ST, SNAP CHANGES ARE MARCH 1ST.

MEDICAID CHANGES WILL BE AS IF APRIL 1ST BECAUSE OF THE 30 DAY NOTE EXTRA NOTICE THAT HAS TO GO WITH MEDICAID.

UM, STATES MUST REDETERMINED COVERAGE FOR ALL MEDICAID MEMBERS OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.

SO IF YOU'VE BEEN RECEIVING MEDICAID AT ALL DURING THE

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PANDEMIC, YOU HAVE 12 MONTHS TO DO A RENEWAL, WHICH IS BASICALLY A REAPPLICATION.

UM, THE STATE SENDS YOU OUT THE SHORT VERSION OF THE APPLICATION, WHICH IS JUST A MINUSCULE 20 PAGES LONG.

AND, UH, REVIEWS ALL THE CURRENT INFORMATION FOR YOUR HOUSEHOLD, WHO LIVES IN THE HOUSEHOLD, WHAT THE INCOME IS IN THE HOUSEHOLD, UM, WHAT YOUR RESOURCES ARE FOR THE HOUSEHOLD, CARS, HOMES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, VIRGINIA HAS DECIDED NOT TO TAKE ANY NEGATIVE ACTION TO CANCEL OR REDUCE COVERAGE FOR MEMBERS WITHOUT COMPLETING THAT FULL REDETERMINATION OF BENEFITS.

UH, ALL VIRGINIANS RECEIVING MEDICAID WILL HAVE TO COMPLETE THE APPLICATION THAT I MENTIONED.

UH, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS ESTIMATING ABOUT 20% OF THOSE ACROSS THE NATION WHO ARE RECEIVING MEDICAID WILL LOSE MEDICAID UPON THE RENEWAL HERE AS OF FISCAL YEAR 21.

THAT'S THE LATEST DATA THAT WE HAD FOR THIS NUMBER OF MEDICAID RECIPIENTS.

WARREN COUNTY HAD 10,086 PEOPLE RECEIVING MEDICAID, NOT A MATH MAJOR, BUT 20% OF THAT HAS ABOUT 2000 PEOPLE ARE ABOUT TO LOSE THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.

SO THAT'S ONE QUARTER OF THE, UH, OF THE, UH, COUNTY.

I'M SORRY, THAT'S ONE QUARTER OF THE COUNTY.

YEP.

YES, SIR.

AND THE, AND SO YOU SAY THAT, UH, UH, ONE FIFTH OF THAT ONE QUARTER IS GONNA LOSE THEIR, THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE IF THE GOVERNMENT ESTIMATES ARE CORRECT? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

NUMBER'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT HIGHER NOW.

I'M GONNA BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU ON THURSDAY.

UH, AND I HAVE SOME UPDATED NUMBERS.

CURRENTLY, UH, FOR FISCAL YEAR 22, UH, WARREN DSS HAS SERVED 12,962 CLIENTS, ABOUT 11,000 OF WHICH HAD MEDICAID.

AND SO THOSE NUMBERS ARE GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.

ACTUALLY.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME, SO IF SOMEONE IS OVER THE AGE OF 65 OR THE ELIGIBLE AGE FOR MEDICARE, AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE GETTING MEDICAID, WHAT IS, CAN THEY GO BACK TO MEDICARE? THEY NEVER LOST MEDICARE.

THEY'LL STILL MAINTAIN THEIR MEDICARE, UM, MEDICAID ACCESS A SUPPLEMENT TO MEDICARE, UH, FOR LONG-TERM CARE, UH, FOR LONG-TERM CARE IN THE HOME, UM, ALSO FOR MEDICATION.

SO IF YOU'RE FINANCIALLY ELIGIBLE FOR MEDICAID, IT IS JUST KIND OF A SECOND INSURANCE TO MEDICARE.

OKAY.

SO THERE, SO WHEN YOU SAY THAT 2000 WARREN COUNTY RESIDENTS COULD LOSE THEIR MEDICAID COVERAGE, IS IT TRUE THAT SOME OF THOSE WOULD STILL HAVE MEDICARE? YES.

OKAY.

AND I CAN GET YOU THOSE NUMBERS.

THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO KNOW.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, NO, THAT WON'T GET YOU THOSE NUMBERS.

SO, SO THE, SO THEN, UH, UM, OUT OF THE FOLKS THAT, UH, UH, THAT, THAT LOSE THIS COVERAGE AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, A PREMIUM MM-HMM.

THAT, UH, THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY.

I MEAN, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THAT PREMIUM? THEY WOULD JUST GO BACK TO PAYING IT.

IF THEY, IF A MEDICARE RECIPIENT WAS GETTING THE MEDICAID ASSISTANCE PAYING THEIR PREMIUM, THE MEDICARE RECIPIENT WOULD THEN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THAT.

GENERALLY, IT'S AUTOMATICALLY TAKING OUT OF, IF YOU HAVE SSI OR, UM, YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY AUTOMATICALLY EVERY MONTH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO YOU HAVE LESS INCOME COMING IN ON TOP OF EVERYTHING.

YEAH.

VIRGINIANS, WHO DO NOT QUALIFY FOR MEDICAID GOING FORWARD, WHAT CAN THEY DO? UM, THE FEDERAL MARKETPLACE IS STILL AN OPERATION, UH, WITHIN 60 DAYS OF LOSING THEIR HEALTHCARE COVERAGE.

ANYBODY WHO LOSES THEIR MEDICAID CAN APPLY FOR ASSISTANCE THROUGH THE FEDERAL MARKETPLACE.

UH, THE OPEN ENROLLMENT PERIOD THIS YEAR IS GONNA BE FROM NOVEMBER 1ST THROUGH DECEMBER 15TH.

UH, IF YOU NO LONGER QUALIFY FOR HEALTH COVERAGE FROM VIRGINIA MEDICAID, UM, YOU'RE GONNA GET A NOTICE TELLING YOU WHEN IT'S GONNA END.

NOBODY SHOULD JUST HAVE THEIR MEDICAID CUT OFF.

YOU WILL GET A LETTER, ESPECIALLY FROM THE WARREN COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES, LETTING YOU KNOW, THE STATE'S GONNA SEND YOU A FORM SAYING, YOU NEED TO FILL THIS OUT.

YOU NEED TO HAVE A RENEWAL.

LET'S SAY YOU DON'T GET IT OR YOU DON'T RETURN IT, YOU'RE GONNA GET A FOLLOW UP LETTER FROM OUR OFFICE SAYING, HEY, WE DIDN'T GET IT.

WE NEED TO TALK TO YOU.

UH, IF YOU STILL DON'T RESPOND TO IT, EVENTUALLY, THEN YOU'RE GONNA GET ANOTHER LETTER SAYING, ALL RIGHT, IN 30 DAYS, YOUR MEDICAID IS BEING TURNED OFF.

INFORMATION ON HOW TO FILE APPEALS, UH, IF THE MEMBER THINKS THAT IT WAS INCORRECTLY TURNED OFF IS INCLUDED IN EVERY SINGLE NOTICE OF ACTION WE SEND OUT FOR EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM.

EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO AN APPEAL IF THEY FEEL THAT THEY NEED TO MAINTAIN COVERAGE.

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UH, THE STATE'S ESTIMATING A COUPLE THOUSAND APPEALS PER MONTH, UH, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HEAR THE APPEAL WITHIN 60 DAYS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN GOING FORWARD IF THEY HAVE A COUPLE THOUSAND A MONTH.

UM, THE BONUS IS IF YOU DO APPEAL, YOU CAN ELECT TO HAVE YOUR COVERAGE REINSTATED PENDING THE RESOLUTION OF YOUR APPEAL.

AND SO IF IT TAKES SIX MONTHS, UH, SIX MONTHS OF ADDITIONAL COVERAGE, THE CATCH IS THAT IF YOUR APPEAL IS DENIED, YOU MAY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAYING ANY SERVICES THAT WERE PAID FOR DURING THAT TIME.

UH, A REFERRAL FOR THE FEDERAL MARKETPLACE, UH, WILL BE SENT WITH EVERY DENIAL LETTER AS WELL.

HOW, HOW, HOW VIABLE IS THAT FEDERAL MARKETPLACE? I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY IS, IF THEY'RE ON MEDICAID, OKAY, AND FOR WHATEVER REASON SAID LIKE THEY'RE MAKING JUST, JUST BARELY TOO MUCH MONEY AND, UH, THEY LOSE THAT MEDICAID, WELL, THE FEDERAL MARKETPLACE, HOW, HOW VIABLE IS THAT? I MEAN, ARE THEY GOING FROM HAVING TO PAY $107 A MONTH TO PAYING $707 A MONTH? IT'S POSSIBLE.

UH, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE WORK WITH WHO GET DENIED MEDICAID, UH, THEY GO THROUGH THE FEDERAL MARKETPLACE AND THEN THEY GET A LETTER SAYING, GOOD NEWS, YOU GOT MEDICAID AGAIN.

UM, BUT THEY DON'T REALLY, WHAT THEY HAVE IS, UM, UH, FIRST CARE MEDICAID, THAT'S THE WRONG NAME FOR IT.

BUT BASICALLY YOU HAVE MEDICAID FOR, UM, BIRTH CONTROL AND THAT'S IT.

AND THEY THINK THEY HAVE FULL MEDICAID, BUT YOU DON'T.

UM, YOU WILL HAVE TO START PAYING FOR YOUR OWN, UM, PREMIUMS UNLESS YOU GO WITHOUT, IN WHICH CASE, AT THE END OF THE YEAR WHEN YOU DO YOUR TAXES, YOU HAVE TO PAY WHAT THEY NOT ALLOWED TO CALL IT A FINE, BUT IT IS A, A PENALTY PENALTY.

THERE YOU GO.

THAT'S THE WORD THEY USED.

THANK YOU.

IT'S A FINE.

BUT YEAH, , RIGHT? SYNONYMOUS .

UH, THE, THE REASON I'M ASKING, UH, ABOUT THIS IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, UH, ABOUT PEOPLE NOT HAVING PROPER HEALTHCARE.

YES, SIR.

AND, UM, PART OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS FOR THE PAST FOUR TO SIX MONTHS, TELLING THEM THIS IS COMING.

THIS IS COMING.

WE HAD A, A MEETING A FEW MONTHS BACK.

UM, MR. MAID WAS THERE WHERE WE PULLED AS MANY COMMUNITY PARTNERS TOGETHER AND SAY, THIS NEEDS TO BE ON YOUR RADAR.

THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT CANNOT KEEP GOING THE WAY IT IS.

UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, ST.

LUKE'S TO SPREAD THEIR INFORMATION, UH, TO ANYBODY WHO MAY NEED IT.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE LOCAL FOOD PANTRIES.

UM, MICHELLE SMELTZER, OUR COMMUNITY LIAISON, HAS SENT THIS INFORMATION TO EVERYBODY ON HER EMAIL LIST, ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE WORK WITH, TRYING TO ALERT EVERYONE.

UM, YOU KNOW, DR.

DALEY AND I MET AND TALKED ABOUT THIS, AND WE DECIDED WE WOULD SEND THIS TO EVERY CHURCH OUT THERE AS WELL, TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.

THIS IS COMING.

THERE'S NOTHING WARREN COUNTY CAN DO TO STOP IT, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE AS PREPARED AS POSSIBLE.

UM, OUR FOOD PANTRIES ARE AS FULL AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE A NEED.

INFLATION ISN'T SETTLING DOWN.

IT'S STILL EXPENSIVE TO GET YOUR GROCERIES, AND NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LESS MONEY TO BUY YOUR GROCERIES.

BUT IT'S NOT JUST THOSE PROGRAMS GONNA BE AFFECTED CHILDCARE AS WELL.

UH, IF YOU RECEIVE CHILDCARE ASSISTANCE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES DURING THE PANDEMIC, WE ARE PAYING YOUR COPAY.

COPAY IS ON A SLIDING FEE SCALE, UM, DEPENDING ON YOUR ABILITY TO PAY.

BUT AS PER, SO IF YOU HAVE FOUR CHILDREN IN CHILDCARE, YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE PAYING TUITION BECAUSE IT'S REALLY, REALLY EXPENSIVE.

IN FACT, MY COLLEGE TUITION WAS LESS THAN IT COSTS TO SEND A SIX MONTH OLD TO CHILDCARE EVERY DAY FOR A YEAR.

JOB SEARCH WAS ADDED AS A, UM, IN ORDER TO GET CHILDCARE.

NOW, SINCE THE UNLINKING OF THE PANDEMIC, YOU HAVE TO BE PARTICIPATING IN A JOB RELATED ACTIVITY.

JOB SEARCH WAS NOW GROUPED INTO THAT.

SO YOU CAN BE LOOKING FOR A JOB, STILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR CHILDCARE BEFORE YOU HAD TO ACTUALLY BE WORKING.

BUT NOW THEY'RE AT LEAST GIVEN A LITTLE BIT OF LEEWAY SO YOU CAN BE OUT THERE JOB SEARCHING.

UH, THE INCOME LIMIT WAS INCREASED.

IT HADN'T BEEN INCREASED IN ABOUT 10, 15 YEARS.

SO MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE.

IT DOESN'T DO US A WHOLE LOT OF GOOD HERE IN WARREN COUNTY.

AND I'M GOING OFF ON A TANGENT, SORRY.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY CHILDCARE PROVIDERS, AND

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WE HAVE EVEN FEWER THAT TAKE THE SUBSIDY FROM SOCIAL SERVICES.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT, IF I WAS A PROVIDER, I WOULDN'T TAKE IT EITHER, BECAUSE YOU GET ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF WHAT YOU COULD GET IF YOU WERE TAKING PRIVATE PAY ONLY.

YOU CANNOT STAY IN BUSINESS TAKING THE SUBSIDY, THE SOCIAL SERVICES GIFTS.

UM, OUR GENERAL ASSEMBLY NEEDS TO DO BETTER.

THEY NEED TO INCREASE THAT IN CASE YOU KNOW, ANYBODY WHO EVER MAY BE WITH A GENERAL ASSEMBLY, , UM, CO-PAYMENTS WERE REINSTATED JANUARY 1ST AS OF 2023.

UH, USING THE SLIDING FEE SCALE.

OUR TIF ON OUR REVIEW PROGRAM IS AFFECTED ALSO DURING THE PANDEMIC.

UM, THE JOB REQUIREMENT TO RECEIVE T N F WAS WAIVED.

YOU COULD WORK IF YOU WANTED, DIDN'T WANNA WORK.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO.

AS OF JANUARY 1ST, THAT'S BEEN REINSTATED.

SO YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WORK RELATED FOR 35 HOURS A WEEK IN ORDER TO GET YOUR TANF.

HOW MUCH TANIF CAN YOU GET? WELL, YOU GET, FOR A FAMILY OF TWO, YOU CAN GET ABOUT A LITTLE LESS THAN $300 A MONTH.

AND THAT'S A LOT MORE THAN IT USED TO BE.

WHEN I WAS A TANF WORKER, YOU GOT $254 A MONTH.

AND ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS TO DO WITH MY CLIENTS WAS DO THE MATH.

ALL RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WORK RELATED FOR 35 HOURS A WEEK.

SO THAT'S ABOUT 140 HOURS A WEEK.

FOR YOUR $254, YOU'RE MAKING LESS THAN A DOLLAR AN HOUR ON TANF MINIMUM WAGE.

DOESN'T SOUND THAT BAD AT THIS POINT.

UM, IT'S A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN THE DOLLAR YOU'RE MAKING ON TANF, BUT THE WORK REQUIREMENT HAS BEEN REINSTATED, AND WE ARE SEEING AN UPTICK IN PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING IN FOR TANIF.

AND OUR VIEW PROGRAM.

ALSO, OUR JOB DEVELOPER HAS BEEN VERY BUSY AS WELL.

AND THAT'S ALL THE SLIDES I HAVE ABOUT THE ENDING OF THE DELINKING OF SOCIAL SERVICES FROM THE PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY.

THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT'S GONNA AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY IN A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

UM, PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE LESS MONEY TO SPEND.

OUR STORES ARE GONNA HAVE LESS INCOME BECAUSE THAT MONEY'S GONE AND NOT BEING SPENT IN THEIR STORES AS WELL.

UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN ANSWER FOR YOU? I HAVE ONE WHEN YOU SAID TANF, THEY HAD TO DO SOMETHING WORK RELATED.

CAN YOU GIVE SOME, UH, EXAMPLES OF THAT? YES, MA'AM.

UH, NUMBER ONE IS A JOB SEARCH WHERE YOU CAN BE OUT LOOKING FOR WORK FOR UP TO 35 HOURS A WEEK.

NOW, IF YOU GIMME AN HONEST EFFORT OF LOOKING FOR WORK AT 35 HOURS A WEEK, AND IT TAKES YOU AN HOUR TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION, I GUARANTEE YOU'RE GONNA FIND SOMETHING.

UM, OTHER THINGS THAT, UH, COUNT OUR ACTUAL WORK, UM, IF YOU'RE WORKING AND WE GIVE YOU A BREAK, IF YOU HAVE A JOB, YOU ONLY HAVE TO DO 30 HOURS A WEEK OF WORK, AND THAT MEETS YOUR TAN OF REQUIREMENT, YOUR VIEW WORK REQUIREMENT FOR THAT.

UH, ANOTHER FAVORITE OF MINE IS THE EDUCATION.

UM, A FIRM BELIEVER IN THE MORE CERTIFICATIONS YOU HAVE, THE MORE FLEXIBILITY YOU GIVE YOURSELF, THE MORE, UM, POWER YOU GIVE YOURSELF TO GET MORE AND MORE, UM, HIGHER WAGES AS WELL.

SO YOU CAN GO TO SCHOOL FOR 35 HOURS A WEEK IN TO BE A CNA OR TO BE A PHLEBOTOMIST, OR TO BE A WELDER, OR TO BE AN ELECTRICIAN.

THAT COUNTS AS YOUR WORK REQUIREMENT.

IF NONE OF THAT WORKS, OR WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE WHO COME IN WHO HAVE NEVER WORKED A DAY IN THEIR LIFE, DON'T HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE, THEY CAN DO WHAT WE CALL A PUBLIC SERVICE PROGRAM WHERE THEY CAN VOLUNTEER UP TO 35 HOURS A WEEK IN A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION.

AND THAT'S YOUR JOB.

AND WHY I LIKE THAT PROGRAM, IT GIVES YOU THINGS TO PUT ON YOUR RESUME AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

IT GIVES YOU, OKAY, I WORKED IN AN OFFICE AND I DID FILING AND I ANSWERED PHONES AND I WORKED A RECEPTIONIST.

SO THEY'RE BUILDING THEIR RESUME FOR WHEN THEY GO OUT THERE, BACK TO THE JOB SEARCH, AND THEY GET THEMSELVES A JOB.

TOO.

MANY OF OUR CLIENTS DON'T WANT MINIMUM WAGE JOBS, BUT WHEN THEY GET THEM, THAT'S WHERE THEY STAY.

THAT'S WHERE THEY STOP.

I GOT A JOB AND I'M GETTING MINIMUM WAGE.

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US HERE STARTED OUT MINIMUM WAGE, BUT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US HERE MOVED ON FROM THAT MINIMUM WAGE.

AND THAT'S PART OF THE, THE MESSAGE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE OUR CLIENTS.

WANT MORE DEMAND MORE, GET YOUR, YOU KNOW, BASE EXPERIENCE IN A MINIMUM WAGE JOB.

HEY, WE ALL STARTED THERE, TEACHES YOU HOW TO SHOW UP EVERY DAY, TEACHES YOU HOW TO STAY ALL DAY, TEACHES YOU HOW TO NOT BE ON YOUR PHONE WHILE YOU'RE WORKING.

THOSE ARE ALL SKILLS THAT YOU CAN PARLAY INTO A BETTER JOB AS YOU GO FORWARD.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, I, I DO.

SO THAT YOU'RE WORK REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY IN SENDING OUT THE, THE NOTICES, ARE YOU ALSO PROVIDING ALTERNATIVES FOR THEM? YES.

WITH EVERY LETTER THAT WE SEND OUT, WE'RE

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SENDING OUT A LIST OF THE FOOD PANTRIES.

OKAY.

UM, WE'RE SENDING OUT, UM, INVITATIONS TO COME IN WITH OUR JOB DEVELOPER.

UM, WE'RE SENDING OUT INVITATIONS TO APPLY FOR TAN FROM THE VIEW PROGRAM.

UM, TRYING TO GIVE PEOPLE AS MANY OPTIONS AS POSSIBLE.

AND ONE THING I DID NOT MENTION THAT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THIS IS THE EFFECT IT'S GONNA HAVE ON CPS AND APS.

POVERTY IS A LEADING INDICATOR FOR CPS.

CHRISTIE HAS SPENT YEARS IN THE FIELD.

SHE CAN TELL YOU ALL ABOUT, UH, THE CORRELATION BETWEEN POVERTY AND CPS.

OUR CPS CALLS ARE GONNA GO UP, OUR APS CALLS, OUR SELF NEGLECT CALLS ARE GONNA GO UP BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED OR THAT THEY'VE GOTTEN USED TO HAVING THESE PAST THREE YEARS.

AND SO IT'S NOT JUST YOUR SNAP PROGRAMS, IT'S NOT JUST YOUR MEDICAID PROGRAM THAT'S GONNA HAVE AN IMPACT.

IT'S GONNA HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR FRIENDS AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, FIRE AND RESCUE, THE SCHOOLS.

EVERYBODY'S GONNA FEEL AN IMPACT FOR THIS.

SO HAVE YOU ASSESSED ALL OF THESE IMPACTS TO THE BEST WE COULD TO AND SO DO YOU HAVE A LIST OF THEM OR DO YOU HAVE A REPORT OR DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AS FAR AS WHO WE THINK IS GONNA BE AFFECTED? WELL, UH, WELL, YEAH.

AND THE, AND THE COUNTY ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, CUZ THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT MY QUESTION'S GONNA BE.

SO, SO WHAT IS THE IMPACT TO THE COUNTY? WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO AT THE BOARD TO HELP MINIMIZE THESE IMPACTS? THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW, AND THE BEST WAY THE BOARD CAN HELP US, US, IS TO GET THE WORD OUT THERE THAT THIS IS COMING.

TOO MANY PEOPLE GET LETTERS IN THEIR MAIL AND US FROM THE STATE AND TOSS IT ASIDE.

EVERY TIME YOU GO TO TALK TO A GROUP, LET THEM KNOW THIS IS COMING.

LET THEM KNOW THIS IS ABOUT TO HAPPENING.

WHEN YOU GO TO A BOARD MEETING, LET THEM KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING.

THE MORE PEOPLE THAT KNOW IT, THE MORE PEOPLE, UM, CAN GET THE WORD OUT TO THE CLIENTS.

BUT ALSO THE MORE PEOPLE WHO MAY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE I NEED TO START VOLUNTEERING.

MAYBE I NEED TO GO DONATE TO THE FOOD BANK.

MAYBE I NEED TO DO THIS.

MAYBE I NEED TO DO THAT.

SO PUBLICITY IS THE BEST THING WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW.

DO DO YOU, DO YOU FORESEE THAT WE'RE GONNA SAY, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD A LOT OF FOLKS SAY THAT THEY'VE, THAT THEY'VE BEEN DIFFICULTIES FINDING PEOPLE TO, TO, TO WORK.

DO YOU THINK THAT THAT, THAT THIS WILL START TO CHANGE? THAT IT SHOULD.

OKAY.

IT SHOULD HAVE AN IMPACT.

UM, OUR JOB DEVELOPER IS ALREADY SEEING MORE BUSINESS OKAY.

COMING HER WAY.

UM, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO FEED YOUR FAMILY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ARE WE OKAY? ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS THAT I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN INVOLVED IN IS FOOD.

WHAT IS YOUR PANTRIES? HOW ARE THEY, HOW ARE THEY SAYING? WHAT ARE THEY SAYING? BECAUSE THEY ONLY, THEY DON'T JUST SERVICE ME OR WARREN COUNTY, THEY SERVICE A LOT OF PEOPLE.

RIGHT.

SO DO YOU FEEL THAT OUR FOOD PAS ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL PEOPLE AS WELL OR BETTER? OR ARE WE GOING TO BE ON THE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE GOING, THERE'S GONNA BE A NEED AND IT'S STARTING TO HAPPEN ALREADY.

AND JUST KIND OF WANT TO, TO KNOW WHETHER YOU FEEL IT'S GONNA BE WORSE? I THINK INITIALLY THERE'S GONNA BE A RUN ON OUR FOOD BANKS.

BEYOND A DOUBT.

UH, WE WERE ALREADY SEEING IT.

SOMEBODY WAS IN OUR LOBBY TODAY, UM, TELLING US THAT THEY WOULD RATHER GO TO THEIR FOOD BANK THAN TAKE FOOD FROM US.

UM, SO THERE'S GONNA BE A HIGH DEMAND FOR A BIT, I BELIEVE.

I ALSO BELIEVE THINGS ARE GONNA EVEN OUT EVENTUALLY.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY IS THAT FULL OF RESILIENT PEOPLE WHO FIND A WAY, WELL, MY, MY THOUGHT, JOHN, IS IN THIS COMMUNITY, IF SOMEBODY'S HUNGRY, THEY CAN GO GET FOOD, FOOD BANK, FOOD BANK, UM, CHURCHES.

UM, YOU CAN GO GET A HOT MEAL EVERY NIGHT.

UH, AND THEY DON'T ASK QUESTIONS.

FOOD BANKS ASK MINIMAL AMOUNT OF QUESTIONS.

BUT FOOD IS GONNA BE A KEY THING FOR ALL OF US.

HEALTH INSURANCE.

YEAH.

I, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT IF YOU'RE HUNGRY, YOU HAVE A TOUGH TIME DOING ANYTHING.

RIGHT.

SO AT THE VERY LEAST, SOMEBODY CAN ALWAYS COME TO OUR OFFICE.

WE HAVE FOOD.

WE ALWAYS WILL RULE NUMBER ONE IN OUR OFFICE AND SAY NOBODY LEAVES WITH NOTHING.

UM, WHETHER I CAN GIVE YOU AN APPLICATION, IF I CAN GIVE YOU A REFERRAL TO ANOTHER AGENCY, UM, IF I CAN GIVE YOU A BAG OF FOOD OR IF I CAN JUST GIVE YOU THREE HOURS OF MY TIME, YOU'RE GONNA GET SOMETHING WHEN YOU COME TO SOCIAL SERVICES.

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UM, AND WE'VE BEEN PREPARING FOR THIS AND WE KNOW THAT, UM, WHILE MAY BE DIFFICULT, UM, THE COMMUNITY'S GONNA GET EVERYONE THROUGH THIS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

[H. Report from the Virginia Cooperative Extension Office - Corey Childs ]

MOVE IT ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS THE REPORT OF THE VIRGINIA CORRUPTIVE EXTENSION OFFICE.

THEY PROVIDED A REPORT.

OH, OKAY.

DOWNLOAD IN THE REPORT.

IT'S STILL DOWN MONEY.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE IT PULLED UP ON THEIR I DO.

ON THEIR LAPTOP.

IT'S, I DO.

IT'S VERY, UM, IT'S LENGTHY.

IT'S LENGTHY.

SO, UM, MAYBE WE CAN, IT'LL BE POSTED.

CORRECT.

MRS. SHIRAI? YES.

THIS HAS BEEN POSTED WITH THE AGENDA PACKET ON THE PUBLIC PORTAL.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I'M HAVING A FAILURE TO LOAD THE REST OF THE DOCUMENTS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH, UM, CONNECTIVITY OR WHAT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

WITH ALL, WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, THEN, UM, IF YOU GO ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE UNDER OUR AGENDA, YOU'LL FIND THE ITEM THERE THAT YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THE REPORT.

UM, DR.

DALEY, HAVE THEY PROVIDED ANY HIGHLIGHTS TO THE REPORT OR ANYTHING TO US? NOTHING SPECIFIC, MA'AM.

IT'S ABOUT 12 PAGES MM-HMM.

.

SO I, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PARTICULAR TO PICK OUT THAT HE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT AT THIS TIME.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

[I. Reports – Board Members, County Administrator, County Attorney ]

OKAY, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

SO IT'S OUR REPORTS FOR, UM, THE BOARD MEMBERS.

SO, MR. BUTLER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT THIS AGAIN? I CERTAINLY DO, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU.

UH, THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, I MET WITH, UH, MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE BOARD FOR, UH, HIGH KNOB.

THIS WAS LAST WEEK.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, INTERSECTION OUT ON, UH, UH, THE, UH, HIGHWAY 55.

UH, I, I ENCOURAGED THEM.

I TALKED TO, UH, BDOT, YOU KNOW, PRIOR.

AND, UH, WE HAD, UH, UH, I'D ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO ENCOURAGE, UH, HIGH KNOB RESIDENTS TO, UH, FORM A, UH, A, A A A POOL OR A FUND, UH, SO THAT THE COMMUNITY COULD, COULD, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, KICK IN SOME FUNDS FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR A, UH, A IMPROVEMENT OF THE, UH, UH, INTERSECTION.

BUT, UH, AFTER HAVING TALKED WITH, UH, MR. CARTER AND VDOT, UH, PERSONNEL, THEY SAID THAT AT THIS POINT, THEY DID NOT THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE THE BEST THING TO DO.

AND THEY GAVE ME SOME, UM, UM, UM, SOME VERBIAGE FOR THE, UH, HIGH KNOB EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE TO PUT IN SOME LETTERS, UH, TO, UH, SEND TO, UM, UH, TO, TO VDO.

AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE BOARD, BUT, UH, IT'S THE, UH, IT'S THE BOARD THAT WILL BE MA MEETING TO DECIDE WHAT WILL MEET, OR WHAT WILL MAKE THE, UH, THE, THE CUT AS FAR AS THE FUNDING GOES.

SO THE, UH, UH, SO THEY, AND THEN THE, THE, SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, ENCOURAGED THEM TO ALSO GET THE WORD OUT TO THEIR COMMUNITY TO START CONTACTING THEIR STATE REPRESENTATIVES AND ASKED THEM TO PLEASE PUSH THIS WITH VDOT AND GET IT HIGHER ON THE, ON THE, UH, THE, THE LIST.

THE SECOND THING IS, UM, I'VE GOT A, A CONSTITUENT WHO HAS BEEN ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS FOR, UM, FOR THE ASSESSMENTS.

AND, UH, AND I, I TRULY, TRULY APPRECIATE HER REACHING OUT TO US AND ASKING QUESTIONS BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN REALLY TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT OURSELVES AND MAKE SURE THAT, WELL, WE ARE DOING BUSINESS THE WAY THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IT.

AND, UH, AND I REALLY APPLAUD HER EFFORTS.

UM, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO BE SENDING HER A LETTER, GIVING HER SOME, UH, SOME, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE AND, AND ALSO ENCOURAGING HER TO, UH, SHE, SHE'S ALREADY COME INTO THE, UH, ASSESSORS AND TALKED WITH THEM AND, AND ENCOURAGE HER TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION

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AND TALK WITH THEM IF SHE STILL HAS ANY, UH, ANY CONCERNS.

LAST ONE IS, UH, AND I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS WILL, WILL MENTION THIS.

I ATTENDED A, UH, MEETING, UH, THIS WEEKEND.

IT WAS MOMS FOR LIBERTY.

AND, UH, I TRULY APPRECIATE THE, UM, THE MOMS FOR LIBERTY.

UH, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE, UH, GETTING INTEREST UP IN THE COMMUNITY FOR PARENTS TO BE INVOLVED IN THE, UH, UH, EDUCATION OF THEIR CHILDREN.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S OUR FUTURE.

AND, AND I, I HAVE, UH, APPRECIATE THEIR ENCOURAGEMENT.

SO, AND MADAME CHAIR, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU.

MS. CALLERS.

UH, YES.

WE HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK, UH, OF THE JOINT TOWN COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

UH, MRS. OATS AND I ARE ON THAT.

MM-HMM.

AS WELL AS, UM, COUNCILMAN AMBER MORRIS AND COUNCILMAN JOSH, UM, INGRAM.

WE WERE JOINED BY PLANNING COMMISSIONER, I THINK SHE'S VICE CHAIR CONNIE NER.

AND, UM, WE HAVE SOME OTHER, UM, WE ARE, WE'RE WORKING ON OUR STRATEGY AND WHO OUR STAKEHOLDERS ARE, AND IT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING.

UM, THE ADDITION OF MS. NER HAS BEEN, UM, AN OUTSTANDING ADDITION.

AND I HAD ASKED, UM, MRS. LOGAN TO JOIN US, BUT SHE HAD A PRIOR COMMITMENT.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO JOIN US ON OUR NEXT MEETING, AND I'LL GET THAT INFORMATION.

CUZ I THINK YOU HAVE A LOT OF HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE THROUGH YOUR, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION, I MEAN, PLANNING DIRECTOR, THAT'S GONNA BE INVALUABLE TO US AS WELL.

SO, UM, I THINK IT'S BEEN VERY PRODUCTIVE.

IT'S BEEN, UM, VERY AGREEABLE MEETINGS.

UM, AND I'M, I'M REALLY PLEASED WITH THE PROCESS AND THE PROGRESS THAT WE'RE MAKING AND LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, CONTINUING.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA MOVE MOUNTAINS OVERNIGHT, BUT, UM, WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER REALLY WELL AND, AND I, I THINK WE CAN, WE'VE GOT, UM, WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE PLAN AND I, I, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE GOOD.

UM, ALSO, UM, MET WITH THE BROWNTOWN GROUP ONCE A MONTH LIKE I USUALLY DO.

AND, UM, THE CONCERNS WITH THE BROWNTOWN ROAD SAFETY, LACK OF BROADBANDS, CELL TOWERS, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

UM, MRS. COOK AND I ATTENDED THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT MEETING AT THE FRONT WORLD POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THOSE ARE ALWAYS INTERESTING.

UM, AND WORKING TOGETHER WITH PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL WORK TOGETHER FOR A PLAN IN CASE WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY.

UH, I ATTENDED THE RIVERMONT VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT'S AWARD CEREMONY.

THAT'S THE FIRST ONE THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE IN NINE YEARS BECAUSE THEIR PRIOR BUILDING, UM, JUST WASN'T, UM, SAFE ENOUGH TO HAVE A MEETING AND A BANQUET IN ANY LONGER.

AND IT WAS A REALLY NICE, UM, THEY HAD THREE FIREMEN THAT, UM, WON AWARDS FOR THE AMOUNT OF CALLS.

AND I'M NOT SURE THAT I'VE GOT THE, THE AMOUNT, BUT I THINK DAKOTA BILL HEIMER WAS, UM, 72 CALLS AND, UM, JEREMY GREEN BACKER 60, I THINK 61, AND THEN PETER FLINT 50.

UM, SO REALLY APPRECIATE THOSE THREE YOUNG MEN GIVING UP THEIR TIME TO RUN SO MANY CALLS AS VOLUNTEERS.

UM, BACK TO MY PROBLEM WITH TRASH AND LACK OF SECURING LOADS.

UM, TRASH WAS PICKED UP ON THREE 40 AND I THINK SIX 19, UM, ABOUT TWO DAYS LATER, IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE TRASH HAD BEEN PICKED UP.

AGAIN, IF PEOPLE WOULD PLEASE SECURE YOUR LOADS, AND IF YOU NEED THE TARP STRAPS, WE'LL GIVE THEM TO YOU FREE.

UM, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ASK FOR 'EM.

YOU CAN COME HERE AND GET 'EM FROM MR. WENLING OR YOU CAN GO TO THE TRANSFER STATION.

THEY'LL GIVE THEM TO YOU.

I'M EVEN WILLING TO STAND OUT THERE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE IT'S, WE HAVE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY AND THE SOUTH END ESPECIALLY IS OUR TOURISM SPOT.

YOU GOT THE DRIVE, YOU GOT THE STATE PARK AND IT'S TRASH UP AND DOWN THE ROAD.

IT LOOKS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE.

UM, EVEN THE RESIDENTS THERE, ESPECIALLY ON SIX 13 TOWARDS THE LANDFILL, THE TRANSFER STATION RATHER ARE COMPLAINING.

IT, IT'S JUST HORRIBLE.

AND IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH EFFORT TO SECURE JUST CUZ YOU PUT IT IN A BAG AND TIE IT UP.

IF THE WHOLE BAG FALLS OFF, FOLKS, ONCE IT HITS THAT ROAD, IT'S GOING EVERYWHERE.

UM, SO THERE'S MY RANT ON THAT.

AND, UM, JUST A QUESTION.

I KNOW WE'VE BEEN GETTING EMAILS ABOUT THE AIRPORT COMMISSION.

ARE WE PLANNING TO HAVE A WORK SESSION WITH THAT? WELL, WHAT WE'RE, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE AIRPORT COMMISSION, UM, TO DISCUSS THE, UM, THE, THEIR,

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THEIR CONCERNS WITH THE LEASE MIS, UH, DR.

DALEY AND I HAVE SENT THAT EMAIL TODAY, UM, FROM WHATEVER THE RESULTS OF THAT MEETING, UM, WILL DETERMINE IF WE NEED TO GO FURTHER WITH THE WORK SESSION.

UNLESS YOU WOULD LIKE US TO HAVE SOMETHING.

I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ONE BECAUSE I'VE, THE AIRPORT IS NOT MY THING AND I'M ALWAYS WILLING TO LEARN.

UM, SO FOR MYSELF, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MRS. OATS OR MR. MAVE.

I KNOW YOU TWO ARE THE EXPERTS ON THE AIRPORT, BUT , I'M, LIKE I SAID, I'M ALWAYS WILLING TO LEARN.

SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE A WORK SESSION OF WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON ABOUT THE OPERATIONS OF THE WORK OF THE AIRPORT OR IS IT THIS TOPIC, UH, SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU WANT TO WELL, IF WE, WE NEED TO HAVE A JOINT COM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE BEEN GETTING, I THINK WE ALL HAVE GOTTEN AT LEAST TWO WITH CONCERNS.

SO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO, TO MAKE EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE SINGING THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC.

OKAY.

WELL, OUR FIRST STEP WE'LL HAVE, UH, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED WITH, UM, THE COMMISSION.

AND THEN FROM THAT, THE RESULT OF THAT MEETING, WE'LL, I'LL FOLLOW UP BACK WITH YOU OKAY.

AND LET YOU KNOW I APPRECIATE WHAT THE OUTCOME WAS AND THEN WE'LL DECIDE IF WE NEED TO GO FURTHER WITH THE WORK SESSION.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, NO PROBLEM MS. OAKS.

SURE.

UM, OKAY.

THE FIRST ITEM, UM, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS TONIGHT IS, UM, BLUE RIDGE SHADOWS.

UM, DR.

DALEY AND I ATTENDED A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION MEETING THEIR YEARLY HOMEOWNER'S ASSO ASSOCIATION MEETING.

UM, AND THEY EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SOME PROFFERS THAT HAD ENCUMBERED THEM INTO PERPETUITY.

AND I JUST WANNA LET ALL OF THE RESIDENTS THERE KNOW THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, UM, JASON TO, UH, ESTABLISH A PROCESS TO UNENCUMBER THEM .

AND SO AT THIS POINT, THAT IS THE PLAN OF ATTACK FOR THAT ISSUE.

UM, I ALSO ATTENDED THE TRANSPORTATION SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING, UM, WITH MRS. COLORS.

AND I WOULD ECHO THAT.

I THINK IT'S VERY PRODUCTIVE AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS, PARTICULARLY FOR THE, THE SHINDO SHORES COMMUNITY.

UM, AND THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE ONLY ONE INGRESS AND EGRESS OUT, UM, AND ARE SUBJECT TO RAILROAD CROSSING CONCERNS.

UM, I ALSO ATTENDED A TOURISM MEETING, AND I AM PLEASED TO REPORT THAT DISCOVER FRONT ROYAL HAS BEEN GIVEN ITS FORMAL, UH, INTERNAL REVENUE CODE, A SECTION 5 0 1 .

THEY'VE BEEN AWARDED A 5 0 1 DESIGNATION.

AND SO THEY CAN NOW DO BUSINESS, UM, SEPARATELY AND APART AND ESTABLISH, CONTINUE TO ESTABLISH THE FORMATION.

SO THAT IS GOOD NEWS.

UM, THE OTHER ITEM THAT I HAVE IS THE DRUG REHABILITATION COURT CONTINUES TO, UH, WORK ON THE PROCESS TO GET APPROVED BY THE VIRGINIA SUPREME COURT.

AND, UM, WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL HAVE OUR FIRST DOCKET IN THE FALL.

THIS IS, UH, GREAT NEWS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

THE DRUG REHABILITATION COURT ISN'T JUST GONNA HELP THOSE WHO ARE IN THE COURT SYSTEM.

WHAT THIS ESTABLISHED, UH, PROGRAM DOES IS ATTRACT OTHER RESOURCES TO OUR COMMUNITY FOR CON UM, FOR ALL SORTS OF DRUG COUNSELING AND, UM, AND THOSE WHO WOULD OFFER THEIR SERVICES TO MEMBERS WHO AREN'T IN THE DRUG COURT.

AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THERE ARE MINIMAL RESOURCES TO HELP, PARTICULARLY THE ADOLESCENT DRUG ADDICTION IN THIS COMMUNITY.

I'VE SPOKEN WITH A NUMBER OF PARENTS AND FRANKLY IT'S HEARTBREAKING.

UM, THEY CANNOT FIND, UH, RESOURCES TO HELP THEIR CHILDREN.

AND I'M HOPING THAT THIS WILL ATTRACT THOSE RESOURCES HERE.

UM, WE HAVE BEEN ONGOING IN BUDGET MEETINGS AND WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PRESENTATIONS FROM OUR PARTNER AGENCIES OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF THURSDAY EVENINGS.

UM, FRANKLY, IT'S, IT'S OVERWHELMING AT TIMES TO LOOK AT ALL THE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT, UM, WE'RE GONNA WORK THROUGH THAT AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THOSE AGENCIES WITHOUT TOO MUCH PAIN.

.

AND THEN FINALLY, UM, MR. BUTLER, WHEN YOU GET THAT LETTER OF THAT PROCESS ORGANIZED, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A COPY OF THAT.

PLEASE.

I'VE ASKED FOR THAT PROCESS AND THE DETAILS FOR MY OWN KNOWLEDGE SO THAT I CAN COMMUNICATE THAT TO MY CONSTITUENTS.

SO, UM, IF YOU WOULD SHARE THAT, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

I CERTAINLY WILL.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU MR. MABE.

I'LL TRY TO BE AS BRIEF AS I CAN.

UM, TAKE YOUR TIME.

NO.

UM,

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I MET WITH, UM, A COUPLE OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WENT TO THE, UM, MEETING ABOUT THE, UM, THERMAL SHELTER LAST SUNDAY, AND DISCUSSED WITH THEM THE, THE CIVIC RESPONSIBILITIES AND, AND HOW WE CAN HELP.

AND, UM, THERE WAS SOME THINGS BROUGHT TO THE TABLE THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT LATER WITH THE THERMAL SHELTER AND ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO TALK.

UM, I WAS WITH THE MINISTERIAL ASSOCIATION LAST WEEK, UM, THAT WAS EXCITING.

WE TALKED ABOUT DSS AND IT'S, UM, SHUTTING THINGS DOWN AND WHAT WE CAN DO.

TALKED ABOUT FOOD SUPPLEMENTS AND HOW WE CAN MAKE IT BETTER.

UM, OF COURSE WE HAD A B OSS UH, BOS MEETING AND WE ALSO HAD BUDGET MEETINGS ON THE LAST THURSDAY.

I'M LIKE, UM, DOLORES HERE, UH, GET OVERWHELMED.

BUT WE ALSO REALIZE THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

WE HAVE TO LISTEN.

WE GIVE EVERYBODY, UM, WHEN WE'RE IN HERE AND WE'RE TALKING WITH PEOPLE, UM, WE GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK OUR PARTNERS.

THEY GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TALK AND ALSO ASK FOR THEIR NEEDS.

AND WE TRY TO HELP THEM WHEN, WHEN, AND WHERE WE CAN.

UM, I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO JOIN, UM, AN E D A BUDGET SESSION WHERE THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW THINGS WERE OPERATING.

AND, UH, TO ME THAT WAS VERY INTERESTING.

I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT A LOT, BUT I DID KNOW THAT THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN JUST, UM, TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING TO COME TOGETHER UNDER ONE ROOF.

SO I REALLY ENJOYED SPENDING TIME WITH, UM, MR. PETTY ON THAT.

UH, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO WITH THE TOWN AND COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO A COFFEE BREAK.

COFFEE BREAK IS WHERE PEOPLE GET TOGETHER AND WE SIT DOWN AND TALK, AND IT'S ON ZOOM, ZOOM RIGHT NOW, BUT 10, 12 PEOPLE SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

AND I GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING IN THE COUNTY TOWN IS TELLING US ALL OF THE, THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING.

IT'S EXCITING STUFF.

UM, THIS IS A GOOD COMMUNITY WHERE, UM, WE BAND TOGETHER WHEN WE CAN, WHERE WE CAN AND HOW WE CAN.

AND I, I'M PROUD OF IT.

UM, HAD QUITE A FEW CONSTITUENT MEETINGS, BOAST ABOUT ASSESSMENTS AND, UH, AND OR MOSTLY ABOUT, UM, THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING THAT THEY EITHER LIKE OR THEY DON'T LIKE.

AND I'M A LISTENER, SO, UH, I TRY TO LISTEN WHENEVER I CAN.

I TRY TO GET BOTH SIDES.

UM, WENT TO THE PLANNING MEETING LAST WEEK, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION.

THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF, OF BRINGING THINGS FORWARD TO US SO WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS ON WHAT'S COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY.

UH, AND I GO, BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S COMING.

I SIT BACK IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM AND I DON'T TALK AT ALL, AND I JUST LISTENED.

AND YOU GET TO HEAR DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEWS FROM THAT PLANNING COMMISSION TO WHEN IT COMES IN FRONT OF US, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION THAT'S NOT LIKED OR LOVED.

IT CAN BE EITHER ONE, BUT WE'RE THE ULTIMATE, WE'RE, WE'RE THE ULTIMATE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

UH, AND THAT'S BASICALLY MY REPORT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OH, THANK YOU.

UM, MY REPORT IS, UH, LAST WEEK THE FINANCE COMMITTEE WE MET AND WE BEGAN DISCUSSIONS ON A DOCUMENTING, UM, RELEASING FUNDING TO OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE STATIONS.

UM, ALSO, UM, I HAD ON MY REPORT OF OUR BUDGET, AND NOT ONLY DID WE, UM, REVIEW BUDGETS WITH THE NON OF THE NONPROFITS AND OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS, WE ALSO REVIEWED THE BUDGET FOR FIRE AND RESCUE, OUR IT DEPARTMENT AND, AND AS WELL AS PARKS AND REC.

AND, UM, AND I THINK THURSDAY IS OUR NEXT MEETING.

I THINK WE GOT LIKE FIVE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT NEXT THURSDAY.

SO, UM, UH, BUT THE LAST THING IS THAT I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DISCUSSED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, STARTING THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

SO AS MS. KOHLERS AND MS. OATS HAD REPORTED ON THE TRANSPORTATION, I WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW IT'S, WE DO HAVE AN OFFICIAL SUBCOMMITTEE CALLED THE, UH, BOARD OF SUPERVISOR, TOWN COUNCIL, TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

UM, WE ALSO ESTABLISHED A, UM, A DEPARTMENT POLICY AND REVIEW COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT MS. CH, UM, COLORS IS ALSO

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CHAIRING THAT AS WELL.

UM, SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO REPORT.

UM, DR.

DALEY, THANK YOU, MA'AM, UH, WOULD REMIND PEOPLE INTERESTED IN REFERRING TO THE LETTER THAT, UH, MR. BUTLER IS TALKING ABOUT.

THIS IS GOING TO FOLLOW THE PRESENTATION THAT MR. JONES DID FOR YOU ORIGINALLY EXPLAINING HOW THE B Z A WORKS AND HOW YOU CAN GO TO CIRCUIT COURT AND OF COURSE, AND THE FACT THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CANNOT CHANGE ANYBODY'S ASSESSMENT.

AND IF YOU, IN ANTICIPATION OF RECEIVING THE LETTER, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THAT'S GONNA SHOW YOU WHAT'S GONNA BE IN THE LETTER.

AND I'M, WE'LL GET THAT DONE THIS WEEK.

I'LL REMIND YOU THAT THURSDAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK WE WILL BE MEETING WITH THE SHERIFF AND THEN WITH, UH, FIVE OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND EITHER C I P OR THE ASSET REVIEW.

I'M NOT SURE ONE OR THE OTHER IS GOING TO CLOSE OUT THE NIGHT FOR YOU.

UH, NEXT TUESDAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK WE WILL BE MEETING WITH THE AUDITOR.

AND THEN AT SIX O'CLOCK YOU WILL HAVE YOUR SERIES OF PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE ALREADY SCHEDULED THERE FOR ALL THE NEW CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS AND ET CETERA.

NEXT THURSDAY YOU HAVE THE BUILDING COMMITTEE, TWO O'CLOCK THREE, TWO O'CLOCK, AND THEN AT FIVE O'CLOCK YOU WILL HAVE ANOTHER SET OF DEPARTMENT BUDGETS, UH, BEGINNING WITH MR. BARRY IN PUBLIC WORKS AND CONCLUDING WITH EITHER THE C I P OR THE ASSET, WHICHEVER ONE WE'RE NOT DOING THIS WEEK.

UH, TUESDAY THE SEVENTH AT THE UM, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING, WE WILL BE LOOKING TO AUTHORIZE THE P P E AND THE EMS SUPPLY EXPENDITURES THAT CHIEF ZAO WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE BUDGET, BUT THEY NEED THE BOARD APPROVAL TO BE SPENT.

AND WE'LL BE TALKING ON THE NINTH.

TWO WEEKS FROM THIS THURSDAY, WE'LL BE MEETING AT FIVE 30 WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD ON THEIR BUDGET WORK SESSION.

AND THEN ABOUT THAT TIME, WE DON'T HAVE AN EXACT DATE.

WE WILL HAVE THE BOOK CLOSED ON THE ASSESSMENTS BY THE ASSESSOR AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO BEGIN WORKING TO EQUALIZE THE RATE.

AND THEN THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION WILL BEGIN IN APRIL AFTER EVERYBODY RECEIVES THAT NOTICE RIGHT NOW.

AND BEFORE HE CLOSES THE BOOK, EVERYONE WILL RECEIVE THE NOTICE THAT TELLS THEM THE RESULT OF THEIR HEARING THEY'VE HAD THE LAST THREE WEEKS.

SO THERE'LL BE A NOTICE SENT BACK.

EITHER SOMETHING WAS CHANGED OR IT WASN'T.

WHATEVER THEY DETERMINED.

THERE WILL BE DISCUSSED ON THE 14TH, TUESDAY, THE 14TH, WE'LL HAVE A WORK SESSION.

WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE CAMPING C U P, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE SHORT TERM RENTAL GUIDELINES AND WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE DEFINITION CON, CREATING A NEW DEFINITION FOR RURAL EVENT CENTERS.

UH, ON TUESDAY THE 21ST, A MONTH FROM TODAY, WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL BE IN A POSITION THAT THE BOARD CAN, UH, PRELIMINARY ADOPT A RE AN EQUALIZATION RATE FOR REAL ESTATE.

AND WE'LL ALSO AT THAT TIME BE LOOKING AT THE ELDERLY TAX REDUCTION.

WE'VE GOT SOME PRELIMINARY NUMBERS THAT WE SENT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE IMPACT OF THAT TILL WE SET THE RATE TO BE SURE OF WHAT IT IS.

AND THEN REMIND YOU ON 23RD, TWO WEEK, THREE WEEKS, OR RATHER A MONTH FROM THURSDAY, YOU WILL HAVE HOPEFULLY YOUR LAST BUDGET WORK SESSION SO THAT WE CAN MEET MSSI SCHEDULE FOR GETTING THIS BUDGET, UH, DONE.

AND WE'LL BE, UH, TALKING ABOUT CHIEF PANZANO TALKED BEFORE ABOUT OUR SUPPORT ON A TEMPORARY BASIS FOR THE FORT SMITH FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT TIME, HOW THAT RELATES TO THE BUDGET AND WHERE WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH THAT.

SO WE ARE AGREEING TO BE PROVIDING SUPPORT OUT THERE UNTIL THE, AFTER THAT TIME.

SO THE INTERIM WE WILL BE THERE,

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BUT AT SOME POINT THE BOARD EITHER WILL EITHER GO FORWARD WITH THIS NEW BUDGET OR WE WILL HAVE TO E OURSELVES AWAY.

AND WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHICH WAY THE BOARD WANTS TO GO LATER IN THE SPRING TO SEE WHERE WE ARE.

AND THEN WE'LL BE BACK A MONTH FROM NEXT TUESDAY TO MORE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON CUS.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MA'AM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

JUST, UM, ONE QUESTION GOING TO THE, UM, THE ASSESSMENT MM-HMM.

.

SO WE HAVE FINISHED THE, UM, THE, THE BOARD OF ASSESSMENT WHERE YES.

THE APPEAL PROCESS, IS THAT CORRECT? NOW, CAN CITIZENS COME BACK AND CONTINUE TO APPEAL THEIR ASSESSMENT AT, AT AN ORIGINAL ASSESSMENT? OR IS THIS PHASE OF THE, UM, PROCESS IS THE PEOPLE WHO WERE STAYING BY THE ASSESSOR TO STILL CONTINUE TO, UM, APPEAL THEIR, UM, THEIR DECISION? SO LET'S CALL THE MEETING WITH THE ASSESSORS HERE.

LET'S CALL THAT PHASE ONE, MA'AM.

OKAY.

AND THAT PHASE ONE IS NOW COMPLETE AND THEY HAVE A STACK OF, UH, SEVERAL HUNDRED, UM, APPEALS THAT THEY ARE NOW REVIEWING.

THEY HAVE A FILE FOR EACH APPEAL THAT SOMEONE CAME IN AND TALKED TO THEM AND THEY GO BACK TO LOOK AT THOSE AND THEY WILL BE IN THE NEXT, THIS WEEK AND NEXT WEEK COMPLETING THE REVIEW OF THOSE AND SENDING THE RESULTS OF THAT TO THE CITIZENS WHO CAME IN.

OKAY.

AT THE SAME TIME.

THEN THE END OF NEXT WEEK, THE FIRST WEEK OF MARCH, WE ANTICIPATE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SIGN THE BOOK SO THAT WE HAVE THE TOTAL NUMBERS AND WE CAN START TO WORK ON THE RATE EQUALIZATION PROCESS.

UH, MRS. UH, SCOTT AND I ARE GONNA GO AND GET SOME HELP FROM SOME PEOPLE TO HELP US MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS COMPUTED CORRECTLY.

MM-HMM.

AND WE'LL HAVE THAT BACK FOR YOU.

UH, THEN PHASE TWO IS THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION, AND THAT IS OPEN TO ANY PROPERTY OWNER, WHETHER THEY CAME TO THE BOARD OF ASSESSORS OR NOT.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

SO ANYBODY CAN COME AND DO PHASE TWO IF THEY WANNA START THERE OR IF THEY HAD A SOMETHING DONE AT PHASE ONE AND THEY'D LIKE TO REVIEW THAT FURTHER.

IN EITHER CASE, THEY THEN GO TO THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION AND THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION WILL MEET APPROXIMATELY FROM APRIL THROUGH AUGUST.

THEY HAVE BEEN, UM, THEY HAVE COMPLETED THEIR TRAINING AND THEY HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CIRCUIT COURT AND THEY WILL THEN START, AND WE WILL BE SIMULTANEOUSLY LOOKING FOR A PART-TIME, UH, SECRETARIAL PERSON WHO ASSISTS THAT BOARD WITH ORGANIZING THOSE, UH, APPEALS.

MM-HMM.

.

SO THAT'S WHEN, UH, SOMEONE IS SCHEDULED, MR. JONES IS SCHEDULED AT NINE O'CLOCK ON THIS DAY, SOMEONE HAS A FILE READY FOR MR. JONES THAT THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION CAN REVIEW.

AND WHEN THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE WHO COMES IN AT NINE 15, THERE'S ANOTHER FILE READY OVER HERE FOR THEM TO REVIEW.

SOMEBODY ORGANIZES THAT ALL FOR THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION ON A TEMPORARY PART-TIME BASIS.

AND THEY ONLY ARE HERE WHEN THE BOARD IS HERE AND YOU KNOW, THIS BOARD GOES ON FOR OFF AND ON.

THEY DON'T NECESSARILY COME FIVE DAYS.

THEY MAY BE HERE MONDAY, TU WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY ONE WEEK, MAYBE MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY THE NEXT WEEK, TUESDAY, THURSDAY.

IT'S AN ESTABLISHED SCHEDULE, BUT IT'S NOT EVERY DAY OF EVERY WEEK.

AND THOSE ARE AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER THAT EVEN AFTER THE TAX RATE IS SET AND BILLS GO OUT, YOU CAN STILL APPEAL AND HAVE THAT ADJUSTMENT MADE UP THROUGH.

USUALLY THE ANTICIPATION IS IT'LL GO TO AUGUST, THAT THAT WILL SERVICE WILL BE AVAILABLE.

AND THEN ONCE THAT SOMEONE HAS GONE THROUGH THAT PHASE TWO, THEN THEY CAN GO TO STATE PHASE THREE, WHICH WOULD BE IF THEY WANT TO APPEAL TO THE CIRCUIT COURT.

VERY GOOD.

AND ANY PROPERTY OWNER WHO'S GONE THROUGH ONE AND TWO, OR EVEN IF THEY SKIP ONE AND TWO,

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CAN GO DIRECTLY TO PHASE THREE TO THE CIRCUIT COURT AFTER THESE TIMEFRAMES.

VERY GOOD.

AND SO, SO THEN BA BASICALLY WHAT THEY WOULD BE LOOKING FOR IS TO MAKE SURE IT IS THAT IF THEY DO NOT FEEL THAT THEY WERE FAIRLY ASSESSED MM-HMM.

, SO LIKE THEY GOT SOMEBODY NEXT DOOR WHO HAS A, THEY FEEL LIKE, WELL, I'VE GOT A HOUSE THAT LOOKS JUST LIKE THEIRS AND UH, UH, AND I'M BEING ASSESSED AT 120 AND HE'S BEING ASSESSED AT AT A HUNDRED.

I JUST FEEL THAT THAT'S JUST NOT FAIR.

CORRECT.

AND THEY CAN BRING THAT FORWARD AND THEY STARTED AT PHASE ONE AND WITH PHASE ONE, THE ASSESSOR WOULD LOOK AT, WELL HERE'S HOUSE A AND HERE'S HOUSE B AND HERE IS THE DIFFERENCE, OR THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE, THIS IS AN ERROR, WE WILL CORRECT THIS.

OKAY.

UM, OR MAYBE IT'S ONLY A PARTIAL DIFFERENCE, MAYBE IT'S ONLY $10,000 DIFFERENCE, ET CETERA.

WHATEVER THAT RESULT IS, THEN THEY CAN TAKE IT TWO PHASE TWO TO THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION AND THEY CAN, THE BOARD CAN LOOK AT IT.

THE BOARD USUALLY LOOKS AT THEM VERY CLOSELY IN RELATION TO THE OTHERS.

UH, THEY HAVE ON OCCASION, THE BOARD HAS SAID, IF YOU HAVE AN APPRAISAL ON YOUR PROPERTY AND YOU BRING US THAT, WE WILL LOOK AT THAT AS A COMPARABLE AND SEE HOW THAT COMPARES.

NOW THE APPRAISALS WE HAVE BEEN TOLD ABOUT THE LAST, UH, MONTH AND A HALF, UH, PEOPLE HAVE SAID, WELL, THE, MY PROPERTY'S REALLY GONE UP AND I'M SURPRISED HOW MUCH, BUT MY APPRAISALS RIGHT IN LINE WITH IT.

UH, AND IT'S BECAUSE AS WE HAVE TALKED BEFORE, PEOPLE COMING OUT HERE DRIVING OUR MARKET, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO EXPERIENCE NEXT TUESDAY WHEN YOU APPROVE THESE CUS UH, THEY HAVE THE MONEY AND THEY CAN MAKE, TURN THEM INTO RENTALS.

UH, SO WE'LL WILL PROCEED WITH THAT AND THEY CAN CONTINUE TO ASSESS, UH, I MEAN APPEAL THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS DR.

DALEY ABOUT THE ASSESSMENT? UM, YEAH, DR.

DALEY IS SO, CAN, CAN YOU PROVIDE TO US THE, UM, SO IF, IF A CITIZEN WANTS TO COMPARE THEIR ASSESSMENT TO THEIR NEIGHBORS ASSESSMENT, WHERE DO THEY GO TO FIND THAT DATA? IS THAT ON THE GIS OR IS THAT IN ANOTHER DATABASE SOMEWHERE? IF I WANTED TO LOOK FOR THE COMPARISON, THEY WERE IN THE MARKET RIGHT HERE IN WHAT'S ONLINE, BUT I WOULD START AT THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE IN THE LAND OFFICE, MA'AM.

OKAY.

SO, UH, BECAUSE I KNOW WE, SO HERE'S MY CONCERN.

THERE ARE MULTIPLE DATABASES WITH MULTIPLE NUMBERS ALL OVER THE STATE, AND PEOPLE ARE NOT COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES.

THEY'RE GETTING APPLES TO ORANGES.

AND SOME OF THESE ASSESSMENTS ARE FAR OFF AND SOME OF THEM ARE CLOSE.

AND SO IT'S CONFUSING TO THE AVERAGE TAXPAYER.

SO THEY'RE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEIR FIRST STEP WOULD BE TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT AT THE COMMISSION COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE, AND THEN THEY COMPARE THE DATA WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COME IN THERE AND THEN JUST GO IN HERE TO THE LAND OFFICE AND THEY CAN DO THAT.

OKAY.

AND THEY CAN ALSO, THEY'LL BE ABLE, IF THEY CALL THE OFFICE, THEN THEY CAN DO IT ONLINE AND THEY'LL HELP THEM DO IT.

OKAY.

SO THEY CAN SEE IT ALL DR.

DAYLER THERE, THERE'S ALSO A, IT'S A, IT'S A VIRGINIA WIDE, UH, SITE.

UH, IT'S VIRGINIA AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE, THE SECOND NAME.

I'LL GET THAT FOR YOU.

BUT THE, UH, UH, MY, MY CONSTITUENT SHOWED ME THAT SHE'D GONE ONTO THIS SITE MM-HMM.

AND, AND I SAID, WELL, ARE YOU SURE THAT THESE ARE CORRECT? AND SO SHE, UH, SHE PULLED OUT THE, THE ASSESSMENTS THAT CAME FROM THE, THE, UH, COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND THEY WERE, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY PULL THE ASSESSMENTS FROM THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND RECORD THOSE ON THIS SITE.

MM-HMM.

SO WELL, AND, AND MS. CHIAKI JUST SHOWED ME, SO IT IS ON OUR SITE, WHICH I OBVIOUSLY HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE.

YEAH.

AND SO SHE JUST SHOWED US, UM, MS. CHIAKI, IF YOU CAN TELL THE COMMUNITY, SO WHEN YOU VISIT THE WARREN COUNTY GOVERNMENT WEBSITE, RIGHT ON THE HOMEPAGE THERE'S A BLUE ICON WITH THE PICTURE OF A HOUSE AND YOU CLICK ON THAT AND ONE OF THE LINKS ON THE REASSESSMENT PAGE IS CHECK YOUR ASSESSMENT HERE.

AND WHEN YOU CLICK ON IT, IT GOES TO THE VIRGINIA MASS APPRAISAL NETWORK, WHICH IS WHAT MR. BUTLER WAS REFERENCING.

YEAH.

IT'S CALLED VANETTE, V A M A N E T.COM.

AND THE ASSESSMENT VALUES ARE EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2023.

SO IT'S THE MOST UP-TO-DATE INFORMATION THAT THE COMMISSIONER OF THE REVENUES OFFICE HAS.

AND YOU CAN SEARCH

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THE ASSESSED VALUE OF A PROPERTY BY THE OWNER'S FIRST AND LAST NAME BY THE TAX MAP ID OR BY THE HOUSE NUMBER AND THE STREET ADDRESS.

SO YOU CAN SEARCH FOR THE APPRAISED VALUE.

THE ASSESSED VALUES EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2023.

AND IF YOU CALL THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE, THEY WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THAT.

THAT'S GREAT.

SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN LOOK 'EM ALL UP, THEY'RE ON OUR SIDE, BUT THEY'LL WALK YOU THROUGH IT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT'S GREAT INFORMATION.

ASK A QUESTION.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

UM, DR.

DALEY, WHEN YOU WERE SAYING A TEMPORARY SECRETARY, IS THAT SOMEONE YOU'RE GONNA PULL FROM THE COMMISSIONER REVENUES OFFICE TO HELP OR A NEW HIRE? NOT SURE EXACTLY MA'AM.

IT MAY VERY WELL BE A TEMPORARY NEW HIRE.

IT'S, UM, PART OF THE ASSESSMENT, UM, THE REASSESSMENT PROCESS THAT WE HAVE USED IN THE PAST.

UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT, UM, EMPLOYEE POSSIBILITIES THERE.

BUT IT WOULD BE, UM, IT WOULD BE SPECULATION FOR ME TO SUGGEST WHERE THAT PERSON IS EXACTLY GOING TO COME FROM TONIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. HAM.

I HAVE NO REPORT.

NO, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

[J. Appropriations and Transfers ]

MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM.

UM, IT'S, UH, UH, APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS.

DOES ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS? SO MOVED.

SECOND SEC.

UH, ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. MABE.

AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MR. BUTLER? AYE.

THANK YOU.

[K. Approval of Accounts ]

NEXT ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS.

DOES ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THE ACCOUNTS? UH, MADAM CHAIR, I DO.

ABSOLUTELY.

I'VE, UM, ASKED FOR THE LAST YEAR FOR WHEN WE FIRST CAME ON THE BOARD, WE GOT LINE BY LINE, UH, EXPENDITURE READOUT THAT WE WENT AND I WOULD GO THROUGH IT LINE BY LINE.

AND THEN WE, WE STOPPED GETTING THAT AND I ASKED WHY AND WAS TOLD WE WOULD GET IT BACK.

AND WE DID START GETTING IT BACK.

AND I WENT THROUGH THIS AND I, I WANT TO FIRST AND FOREMOST CONGRATULATE MRS. SHIRAKI BECAUSE, AND I'M LOOKING FOR HER NAME WHEN SHE PURCHASES SOMETHING SUCH AS, UM, AMERICAN SIGNS, BOARDROOM NAME PLACARD FOR A STAFF, IT'S THERE.

YOU SEE EXACTLY WHAT IT IS SHE PURCHASED AND THERE'S NO QUESTION.

AND SHE DID THAT WITH EACH OF THE, ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN ITEMS THERE.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT EXPENDITURE WAS FOR.

OTHERWISE YOU GET AMAZON PURCHASE OR THIS OR THAT AND YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT IS BEING SPENT ON.

UM, SO I KNOW THE DESCRIPTION CAN BE PUT THERE BECAUSE MRS. SHIRAKI IS DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB OF IT.

AND MAYBE SHE NEEDS, AND I HATE TO DO THIS TO YOU MRS. SHIRAKI, BUT MAYBE YOU NEED TO TEACH THE CLASS ON THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

UM, I DON'T LIKE APPROVING THINGS, UM, WHEN I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THE MONEY'S BEING SPENT FOR.

UM, I ALSO WENT THROUGH GAS RECEIPTS AND UM, I'M NOT TRYING TO POKE THE FINGER AT ANYONE AND IN PARTICULAR, BUT GOING THROUGH THESE, I FOUND A LOT OF PREMIUM GAS, UM, PURCHASES, WHICH WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE BUYING PREMIUM GAS.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET, UM, WE HAVE A CONTRACT THAT PAYS FOR REGULAR UNLIMITED AND DIESEL.

AND IF YOU GO ABOVE THAT, THEN WE'RE GETTING CHARGED ABOVE.

I DID CONTACT THE, UM, BETH CO, UM, NOW I'M LOSING HER LAST NAME.

ANYWAY, THE LADY WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE STATE OF VIRGINIA'S, UM, GENERAL SERVICES, WHICH TAKES CARE OF ALL THEIR FLEET STUFF AND DOES NOTHING, UH, THIS IS HER WHEELHOUSE.

AND I ASKED HER TO WALK ME THROUGH THIS AND ONE THING SHE DID SAY THAT THERE'S A GLITCH IN THIS MAN'S MA WHATEVER THE COMPANY IS THAT WE'RE IN, AND IT'S THE SAME COMPANY.

THE STATE USES THAT FOR SOME REASON YOU CAN GET UNLEADED GAS AND SOME PUMPS WILL PUSH IT OUT THAT IT'S A PREMIUM EXPENSE AND YOU GET CHARGED THE PREMIUM PRICE BECAUSE

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THAT'S WHAT IT TELLS THE COMPUTER THAT YOU BOUGHT, EVEN THOUGH YOU BOUGHT UNLEADED.

AND IT'S USUALLY YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH TRACK IT, SHE SAID, BECAUSE IT'LL BE AT THE SAME GAS STATION.

SO YOU TRACK IT BACK IN.

THE WAY YOU DO THAT IS WHEN, JUST LIKE WHEN WE GO TO THE GAS STATION AND IT SPITS OUT THAT RECEIPT, YOU KEEP THAT AND THAT'S HOW YOU CAN JUSTIFY IT AND GET REIMBURSEMENT IF IT'S A GLITCH IN THAT SYSTEM.

BUT IF THE SAME VEHICLE IS GOING TO MULTIPLE SITES BUYING PREMIUM, THEN YEAH, THEY'RE BUYING PREMIUM GAS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT.

EDUCATE OUR PEOPLE, THEY NEED TO KEEP THOSE SLIPS.

UM, I ASKED FOR THOSE AND WAS TOLD THEY WEREN'T AVAILABLE.

UM, BUT THEY NEED TO, THEY NEED TO KEEP THE SLIPS, THEY NEED TO NOT BUY PREMIUM.

AND IF IT SHOWS UP PREMIUM, THEN WE CAN TAKE THAT SLIP IF IT'S FROM THE SAME GAS STATION REPEATEDLY AND SAY, YOU GOT A PROBLEM, WE NEED TO BE IN RE REIMBURSED.

OTHERWISE WE'RE PAYING FOR PREMIUM WHEN WE'RE GETTING REGULAR UNLEADED.

AND THAT CAN ADD UP OVER, CUZ THIS IS THE REPORT, 26 PAGES WORTH FOR ONE MONTH, I THINK JANUARY.

UM, SO THOSE ARE THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE US ADDRESS.

SO, UM, SO WHAT, WHAT'S THE, UH, TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THE PREMIUM OF GAS? DID YOU HAVE TIME TO I GOT THIS THIS LATE THIS AFTERNOON.

OKAY.

I GAVE EACH YOU, SO WE DON'T KNOW THE, I GAVE EACH OF YOU A COPY.

I HIGHLIGHTED THE PREMIUM, UH, IN THERE.

UM, LIKE I SAID, BY THE TIME I GOT THIS, I'VE BEEN EMAILING MS. SCOTT ALL DAY TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, GETTING THINGS ON A FRIDAY AND THEN HAVING A HOLIDAY ON A MONDAY AND A TUESDAY MEETING DOESN'T ALLOW FOR A LOT OF INVESTIGATIVE WORK.

I DID THE BEST I COULD.

UM, AND I, LIKE I SAID, I GAVE EACH OF YOU AND, AND YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE EMAIL AS WELL WITH THIS INFORMATION.

UM, SO, OH, I'M SORRY, ADAM CHAIR.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UH, I THINK MS. COLORS IS DOING GREAT WORK HERE.

YOU KNOW, THE B BECAUSE SHE'S RIGHT, EVERY LITTLE BIT ADDS UP AND, YOU KNOW, THE, AND, AND I'VE ALWAYS FOUND THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU PAY ATTENTION TO THE, TO THE, TO THE DETAIL, THEN IN THE END YOU'LL, YOU'LL COME OUT MUCH BETTER.

MM-HMM.

, THE ONLY THING I WANNA ADD, UM, IF THE, UM, GENERAL SERVICES IS, IS, HAS IDENTIFIED THAT THERE'S A GLITCH IN THE SYSTEM, MY QUESTION IS, IS WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO FIX THIS GLITCH? BECAUSE THIS IS NOT IN HER SYSTEM, IT'S IN THE COMPANY THAT DOES, WHAT IS THE NAME? IS IT MANSFIELD? MANSFIELD? I WANTED TO SAY MAYFIELD, BUT I DIDN'T, I KNEW THAT WASN'T RIGHT.

YEAH.

BUT, UH, SO IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED.

I, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T ASK HER THAT QUESTION, UM, MORE THAN WILLING TO CALL HER TOMORROW.

UM, SHE WAS VERY NICE, VERY INFORMATIVE AND TOLD ME TO CALL HER BACK WITH ANY QUESTIONS I HAVE.

SO YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE I, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW LONG THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON AND IF THERE'S A, ALL THE COUNTIES ARE THEY PAYING FOR, UH, FOR FUEL THAT THEY SHOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, AT A PRICE THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE PAYING.

I MEAN, I MEAN THAT'S A PRETTY, WELL THAT WAS THE THING, MAJOR GLITCH.

YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THESE DAILY, THEY, UM, THE MACHINE CAN FLAG THESE THINGS MM-HMM.

AND YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WE JUST HAVE TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE, GO THROUGH THEM.

AND I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO DO THAT.

I JUST HAVE TO GET THE REPORTS TO DO IT.

YEAH.

IF YOU COULD.

UM, BUT THE GUY, EVERYBODY, WHOEVER'S GETTING GAS HAS GOT TO KEEP THAT RECEIPT.

WELL, I, I AGREE WITH THAT.

SO WE CAN RECONCILE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT BEING CHARGED FOR SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT USING.

SO, UM, BUT YEAH, IF YOU CAN ASK THAT QUESTION, I'D REALLY APPRECIATE IT TO FIND OUT HOW LONG THIS IS GOING AND WHAT HAS BEEN THE IMPACT.

I MEAN, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE GETTING MONEY, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE NOT BUYING ANYTHING THAT'S, UM, WELL, CONCERNING TO ME DOING, DOING OUR, YOU KNOW, AND IT MAY JUST BE THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL COUNTY OR WHATEVER NEEDS TO DO THIS.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'LL CALL AND ASK.

I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH.

WELL, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, BECAUSE I GOT RID OF A PREMIUM GAS CAR FOR THIS REASON, AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PREMIUM GALLON OF GAS AND A REGULAR GALLON OF GAS CAN BE AS MUCH AS A DOLLAR AND 20 CENTS A GALLON.

SO IF, I MEAN, THINK ABOUT THE, HOW MANY GALLONS OF GAS WE'RE USING VERSUS WHAT THAT COULD, THAT TOTAL COULD BE.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

I

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MEAN, IF WE'RE NOT USING PREMIUM AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HITTING THE UN UNLOADED, BUT YET WE'RE BEING CHARGED FOR PREMIUM, I MEAN THAT'S A, THAT COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER.

THE THING IS, NOT ALL OF THESE WERE AT THE SAME GAS STATION, SO WE ALSO HAVE TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND EVERYBODY MAKES A MISTAKE OF ROLLING UP TALKING ON THE PHONE, YOU KNOW, ANSWERING QUESTIONS AND GRABBING UP THE, HITTING THE WRONG BUTTON.

UH, YOU KNOW, BUT THE, LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN GO THROUGH, YOU EACH HAVE IT, THEY'RE HIGHLIGHTED, YOU CAN SEE THE SAME THING.

I SEE.

AND SOME OF IT'S SEEMS LIKE A HABITUAL OFFENDER.

SO I, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS THERE.

OKAY.

COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

DON'T WE RECONCILE THE, THE, THE INVOICES OR THE, THE, UM, EXPENSES FOR THE GAS OR ANYTHING FOR THAT MATTER? I MEAN, DON'T, IF I, IF I, IF I GO OUT AND I GO SPEND THE NIGHT AT A MOTEL AND THE COUNTY'S GONNA PAY FOR WHATEVER I DO, I'VE GOTTA GIVE AN ITEMIZED LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT I DID.

WE DON'T DO THIS FOR GAS OR AMAZON BUYS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THEY USE A DIFFERENT CAR.

SO THERE IS RECONCILE ABOUT ABOUT A DOZEN MA'AM VEHICLES THAT WE LOOKING, UM, MAYBE A DOZEN DOZEN.

BUT YOU DON'T, DIFFERENT EXPENDITURES, BUT A LOT OF IT WAS THE SAME VEHICLE.

YEAH.

MISS.

SO THERE'S A, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DOZEN EXPENDITURES AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE NOW.

UH, BUT DOES, UM, DOES , I KNOW PROBABLY ONE OF PUBLIC WORKS HAS A VEHICLE, DON'T THEY HAVE THE SAME KEY CARD ALL THE TIME? SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FUEL TRANSACTIONS, WE RECEIVE INDIVIDUAL INVOICES FROM MANSFIELD AND THE DEPARTMENT HEAD SIGNS OFF ON THOSE EXPENDITURES, UH, AND SUBMITS THOSE TO ACCOUNTS PAYABLE FOR CHECK PROCESSING.

SO MOVING FORWARD, I THINK A BETTER, UM, RECONCILIATION TACTIC WOULD BE TO PROVIDE THE DEPARTMENT WITH A STATEMENT THAT CAN BACK UP EACH OF THOSE INVOICES.

BUT, UM, HAVING THE RECEIPTS AT POINT OF SALE IS GONNA BE IMPORTANT IF THERE ARE THOSE MISTAKES FOR THE PREMIUM IS PURCHASED OR NOT, THE UNLEADED OR DIESEL MM-HMM.

.

SO, UM, WE DO RECONCILE THE AMAZON STATEMENT AS WELL.

AND THOSE ARE ALSO SIGNED OFF BY THE DEPARTMENT HAS, I MEAN, BECAUSE IF SHE SEES, OR IN MY CASE I SAW AN AMAZON PURCHASE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, WHO'S TO SAY WHAT THEY BOUGHT.

RIGHT.

AND WE DON'T, WE DON'T, WE WOULDN'T PAY FOR THAT.

IF WE DIDN'T AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASE, WE WOULDN'T PAY FOR IT.

THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR DEPARTMENT'S PURCHASING, AND SO THEY'RE THE ONLY SIGNATURE.

OR IF THEY'VE GOT A DESIGNATION, THEN THAT PERSON'S AUTHORIZED TO SIGN OFF ON THE PURCHASE.

SO DO WE RESULT IS WE HAVE TO, OKAY, THESE PURCHASES LIKE WE'RE DOING TONIGHT AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE OKAYING FOR EXCEPT IN MS. SCHROCK'S CASE.

AND THEN I KNOW, DO WE, DO WE RECEIVE RECEIPTS FOR THESE PURCHASES THAT ARE BEING BOUGHT ON THE P CARD? YES, WE DO.

WE DO.

WE DO.

AND DO WE HAVE THEM STORED SOMEPLACE? WE DO THAT YOU CAN TAKE ANY DOWNLOAD FROM THE SYSTEM AND RECONCILE IT TO A RECEIPT? YES, WE DO.

OKAY.

SO IN THE CASE OF MS. ROCKY ABLE TO DEFINE HER, UH, HER EXPENDITURE WOULD, I, WOULD I SAY THAT'S A MANUAL INPUT INTO THE SYSTEM? IT'S AN AUTO-POPULATED INPUT INTO THE SYSTEM.

AND SO THE INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNT HOLDER, AS THEY RECONCILE THAT TRANSACTION, THEY WOULD NEED TO CHANGE THE DESCRIPTION IN THE P CARD, UH, SECTION AND ACCURATELY DESCRIBE WHAT THEY'RE PURCHASING.

HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CHARACTERS ARE ALLOWED SPECIFICALLY THAT WOULD UPLOAD INTO THE P CARD REPORT THAT GETS UPLOADED INTO BRIGHT.

SO IT'S, UM, AND THAT'S OUR FINANCIAL ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE.

SO I'M NOT SURE HOW TO ANSWER THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION, HOW MUCH DESCRIPTION YOU CAN PROVIDE THAT YOU COULD PUT IN.

BUT IT, IT'S A, IT'S A MANUAL INPUT.

IT WOULD BE A MANUAL INPUT.

OKAY.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY START DOING TO MAKE IT THAT MUCH EASIER FOR, FOR US TO ACTUALLY APPROVE THESE THINGS.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, CUZ I DON'T, I, I'M LIKE, CHERYL, I'M NOT CRAZY ABOUT APPROVING AN EXPENDITURE EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEEN SPENT, YOU'VE PAID, YOU ALREADY, YOU'VE ALREADY PAID FOR IT.

WE'RE BASICALLY JUST ALLOTTING THE MONEY OR ALLOCATING THE MONEY FOR IT.

I DON'T NECESSARILY LIKE DOING THAT, BUT I TRUST THAT THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT'S DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE.

BUT NOW I GUESS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO INTO IT JUST A LITTLE DEEPER.

AND IF I'M WRONG, JUST PLEASE TELL ME, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S TOO MUCH OF AN ASK.

WELL, AND I CAN SAY ONE OF THE EXPENDITURES

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THAT MRS. CHIAKI KEYED IN WAS AMERICAN ASSIGNS BOARDROOM NAMED PLACARD FOR, UM, ALYSSA SCOTT.

SHE WAS ABLE TO PUT ALL OF THAT IN.

SO I WOULD THINK HEARD A LOT.

THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM THERE.

WELL, THAT'S AN ASSUMPTION.

YEAH, NO, IT'S NOT AN ASSUMPTION.

I'M LOOKING AT IT RIGHT HERE.

I'M JUST SAYING IT'S A FACT.

THE CHARACTER LIMITATION I'M SAYING, SO FOR THIS, SO WHAT MS. ROCK UMI HAD PUT IN THERE, IF YOU COUNT THE AMOUNT OF CHARACTERS AND SPACES THAT WOULD, YOU CAN MAKE AN ASSUMPTION THAT IS THE AMOUNT OF TEXTS THAT YOU COULD PUT IN THAT FIELD, YOU KNOW, UNLESS YOU KNOW, UNLESS YOU GO THROUGH THE REPORT AND THERE'S A DESCRIPTION THERE THAT HAS MORE CHARACTERS TO EXPAND IT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK MS. SCOTT, YOU NEED TO FIND OUT.

MM-HMM.

IS WHAT'S THE CHARACTER LIMITATION IS ON THAT.

RIGHT.

AND THIS IS A REPORT THAT'S RUN FROM OUR BANK OF AMERICA PORTAL SYSTEM.

IT'S NOT A REPORT THAT'S RUN FROM OUR BRIGHT SYSTEM, BUT HOPEFULLY THE TWO WILL GO TOGETHER.

SO WE'LL GET ONE REPORT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL, THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT'S BEEN ENTERED IN FOR THE CHECKS AND AS GOING FORWARD AS IN A CORRECTIVE ACTION.

BECAUSE I DO AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REPORTS THAT YOU, WE'D LIKE TO KNOW THE DESCRIPTION OF THE EXPENDITURES.

SO GOING FORWARD, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN LOOK INTO DR.

DALEY AND, AND SEE IF, UM, YOU KNOW, SEND AN EMAIL OUT, YOU KNOW, AND LETTING THE FOLKS KNOW TO THE, AT LEAST TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A DESCRIPTION AFTER YOU FIND OUT WHAT THE CHARACTER LIMITATION IS IN THAT FIELD.

RIGHT? YEAH, WE COULD DO THAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, AND THEN LET THEM GOING FORWARD.

SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF SUPPORTS WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY ABOUT THE AS 400, 400 RIGHT.

400 .

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THAT WE ARE AD HOKING THESE REPORTS, THE MANUAL INPUT VERSUS AUTOMATIC, UM, OUTPUT.

AND WHEN YOU START INTRODUCING THE MANUAL VERSUS AUTOMATIC, YOU HAVE HUMAN ERROR.

SO I JUST WANNA, YOU KNOW, THROW THAT OUT THERE.

THAT, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE NEED TO, I KNOW IT'S ON OUR TOP PRIORITY LIST TO LOOK INTO A, UM, A DIFFERENT FINANCIAL SYSTEM, BUT THIS IS A PRIDE AND EXAMPLE WHY WE NEED TO DO THIS.

AND THAT'S CALLED THE FAT FINGER MISTAKE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

WELL, OKAY.

I WAS BEING, I WAS BEING NICE.

I, I TOTALLY HUMAN ERROR.

TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT WORDS CAN GET MISSPELLED AND SO FORTH.

UM, I NEVER AM GOING TO CRITICIZE ANYBODY FOR SPELLING ERROR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I'M NOT THE GREATEST SPELLER IN THE WORLD EITHER.

BUT I DO THINK THAT THIS IS DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE ARE A COMMUNITY THAT'S HAD THE AMOUNT OF EMBEZZLEMENT WE DO, I KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED ME TO SIT IN THIS CHAIR EXPECT ME TO DO THE OVERSIGHT.

I DON'T FEEL I'M DOING THE OVERSIGHT WHEN, YOU KNOW, NUMBER ONE, I WASN'T GETTING A LINE BY LINE, WHICH BUGGED THE HECK OUT OF ME.

AND THEN NUMBER TWO, TO LOOK AT IT AND STILL NOT KNOW WHAT PEOPLE ARE BUYING.

FOR ALL I KNOW, I MEAN, AND I'M NOT ACCUSING ANYBODY OF ANYTHING, BUT IF THE GENERAL PUBLIC LOOKED AT THIS, THEY'D SAY THAT'S ALL YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT YOU STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON.

AND THEY'D BE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

AND FOR ME, THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM.

I CAN'T DO IT.

AND SEEING, UM, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO KEEP POKING MS. CHIAKI, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO A GOOD JOB, YOU DO A GOOD JOB.

AND SHE'S PROVED TO ME THAT THERE IS ENOUGH ROOM THERE.

AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE TO ABBREVIATE SOME WORDS TO GIVE A GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF WHAT IT IS YOU'RE PURCHASING.

SO WE KNOW WHEN WE SAY I APPROVE THIS, THAT I KNOW THAT THE DOLLARS THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE WORKING HARD FOR AND WE'RE TAKEN FROM THEM HAVE BEEN SPENT TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.

AND THAT'S WHAT I NEED AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING TO FIX.

WELL, I CERTAINLY HOPE SO.

THANK YOU.

WELL, JUST FOR THE RECORD, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANY INTENTIONS OF NOT PROPERLY RECORDING OUR EXPENDITURES.

I'M NOT ACCUSING ANYONE OF ANYTHING VERY GOOD.

THAT WE CAN DO BETTER ON THIS.

OKAY.

I HAVE ONE, I HAVE ONE THING.

I'M SORRY, HUN, GO AHEAD.

SO ON THE SANS ANDERSON , I KNOW THIS IS DR.

DALEY'S FAVORITE TOPIC.

UM, FROM THIS YEAR'S, FROM, FROM THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, WE HAVE BUDGETED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THEM THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR OF JUNE OF THIS YEAR.

IS THIS, ARE WE PROJECTING THIS TO GO AWAY AFTER

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JUNE THESE MONTHLY? ALL RIGHT.

SO YOU, I MEAN WE'RE, SO IT'S INTERESTING TO ME BECAUSE I THINK WE PUT THEM ON A BUDGET OF ABOUT, UH, WE WANTED TO SEE LESS THAN $140,000, $150,000 A MONTH.

SO NOW THEY'RE BILLING US IN LITTLE OR INCREMENTS SO THAT IT APPEARS LIKE THE TOTAL, HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT, THAT THE TOTAL ISN'T STILL THE SAME, BUT THE TOTAL IS STILL THE SAME PER MONTH.

AND SO, UM, I DID NOTICE THAT I DID ADD A FEW UP, UM, AND THEY'RE STILL OVER ONE 20 OR ONE 30,000 A MONTH, WHICH IS JUST HUGE.

SO WHAT, WHAT I WANNA ASK DR.

DALEY IS THAT I, IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 2324, IS THIS, UM, AMOUNT OF EXPENDITURES PER MONTH GOING TO BE ELIMINATED? CAN WE SAY THAT WITH CERTAINTY? ? I'M GONNA HAVE TO SUGGEST THAT THE BOARD DISCUSSED THAT ENCLOSED SESSION, MA'AM.

OKAY.

BECAUSE IT INVOLVES HOW THE BOARD IS GOING TO PROCEED WITH THESE CASES.

OKAY.

MIK, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT OUR, OUR ACCOUNTS MAD CHAIR AS, UH, UM, AS, UM, UH, A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE ACCOUNTS? THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND AGAIN? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

THANK YOU.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MISS EXCUSE ME, MR. BUTLER.

AYE.

MRS. COLORS? NO.

MADAME CHAIR.

AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MR. MABE? AYE.

THANK YOU.

[L. Approval of Minutes ]

NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARING MEETING DATED JANUARY 24TH, 2023.

AND, UM, REGULAR MEETING AT FEBRUARY 7TH, 2023.

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR REVISIONS TO THE MEETING MINUTES AS PRESENTED? IF NOT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THEM? MADAM CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE PUBLIC MEETING, PUBLIC HEARING MEETINGS OF JANUARY 24TH AND THE REGULAR MEETING OF FEBRUARY 7TH, 2023.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. MAME? AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE.

MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MR. BUTLER? AYE.

THANK YOU.

UH, MOVING

[M. Consent Agenda ]

TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA, DOES ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY REVISIONS OR, UM, ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? IF NOT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED? SO, MOVE MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

THANK YOU.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. BUTLER.

AYE.

MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MADAME CHAIR? AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MR. MABE? AYE.

THANK YOU.

NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS ANY, UH, ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS? IS THERE ANYONE ON THE BOARD THAT WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT NEW BUSINESS? NO.

SO WE'RE, DO WE HAVE A MO A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED BY THE CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

A SECOND.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.