Mar 07, 2023 Board of Supervisors Meeting

AND FOR 2022 IT'S FORTY ONE THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED FORTY ONE MILLION EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO OUR JANUARY 31, UH, GENERAL FUND REVENUES, OUR TARGET IS 58%.

THAT'S WHEN YOU DIVIDE THE YEAR INTO MONTHS.

AND OUR REVENUES ARE AT 54, SO IT'S A LITTLE BELOW.

THE PRIMARY REASON IS OUR STATE REVENUE IS AT 30%.

THAT'S LAGGING A GOOD 25%.

AND THAT PULLS THE AVERAGE DOWN FOR, AGAIN, JANUARY 31ST FOR 2023.

OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES ARE $43,200,000.

AND UH, SO THAT LEAVES US A BALANCE OF $1,400,000 SURPLUS, NOT LET ME CHANGE THAT WORD TO MORE THIS YEAR THAN LAST YEAR.

IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A SURPLUS UNTIL JUNE 30TH, SO WE SHOULD NOT COUNT IT AS THAT.

AND TO GET LIKE, AND LIKE I TOOK THE ARPA FUNDS OUT OF BOTH YEARS CUZ THERE WAS 4 MILLION IN ONE YEAR AND 8 MILLION IN THE OTHER, AND WE ONLY GOT 8 MILLION ANYWAY.

SO I TOOK 'EM OUT OF BOTH THE END OF JANUARY.

OUR BUDGET TARGET AGAIN IS 58% AND OUR EXPENDITURES ARE AT 33.

AND THAT'S NOT REAL BECAUSE OUR TRANSFERS IN OUR DEBT SERVICE ARE DOWN AT 18%.

AND THAT WILL BRING THE, UH, UH, AVERAGE UP BECAUSE THAT'S LOWER.

TO GET A BETTER ANALYSIS.

YOU CAN LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS.

GENERAL GOVERNMENT IS 51%, JUDICIALS 54.

PUBLIC WORKS IS 53 50.

UH, PUBLIC SAFETY IS 53.

PUBLIC WORKS IS 62, AND THAT'S PRIMARILY DUE, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE MAJOR, UH, RENOVATIONS THIS YEAR OVER IN THE COURTHOUSE AND OVER ON 15TH STREET.

AND A LOT OF THAT MONEY CAME FROM CAPITAL, BUT A LOT OF IT CAME FROM MAINTENANCE TOO.

SO IT REALLY BOOSTED THAT UP.

HEALTH AND WELFARE.

I'M SORRY, MA'AM.

I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, DR.

DALEY.

SO JANUARY, 2023, DEPARTMENTAL EXPENDITURES, THIS IS THE BURN RATE.

IS THAT BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PERCENTAGE OF? YEAH, THIS IS THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE'VE BURNED THAT THEY HAVE TO DATE.

THIS PERCENTAGE OF THE BUDGET THEY HAVE SPENT, HAVE SPENT TO DATE.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE BURN RATE.

SO THERE, AND THE GOAL IS THAT 58%.

SO, SO IS IS THIS, IS THIS AT THE END OF JANUARY BECAUSE WE'RE YES, BECAUSE THE, THE, THE, THE COUNTY FISCAL YEAR STARTS ONE JULY.

YES, SIR.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT SEVEN MONTHS.

YES SIR.

SO THAT'S HOW WE GET THAT 58%, UH, PARKS AND REC IS AT 48 AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS 82%.

AND THAT'S NOT MR. PETTY'S FAULT.

THAT'S BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT ALL THE A E D A BANK PAYMENTS AND ALL THE E D A LEGAL PAYMENTS IN THERE.

SO THAT, AND THEN MISCELLANEOUS IS 18%.

OUR FUND BALANCE, ACCORDING TO THE AUDITOR TWO WEEKS AGO, INCREASED APPROXIMATELY 1.2 MILLION.

SO THAT'S A 1% INCREASE ON A HUNDRED MILLION BUDGETS.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE PLEASED WITH THAT

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FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS.

YOU CAN SEE OUR DEBT HAS BEEN FAIRLY, EVEN AT 11 MILLION, THERE'S A COUPLE HIGHER YEARS AND THEN WE REFINANCED IN 20 AND 21 AND THAT BROUGHT IT BACK DOWN TO THE 11 MILLION FIGURE.

SO WE'RE AT $11,200,000 THIS YEAR.

SO WE HAVE POSITIONS IN OUR ACCOUNT, OUR FINANCE SYSTEM OR OUR HR THAT ARE BUDGETED AND THEY'RE POSITIONS THAT ARE BUDGETED AND FUNDED.

SO THERE'S, UH, THERE'S A BUDGET LINE ITEM AND THERE'S CASH FOR THOSE POSITIONS.

AND THERE'S A FAMILY SERVICES SUPERVISOR, TWO FAMILY SERVICES SPECIALIST, WHAT MR. MARKS WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.

TWO COMMUNICATIONS OFFICERS, THE THREE BATTALION CHIEFS, THE PROJECT MANAGER, TWO PARK ATTENDANCE, A SOLID WASTE EQUIPMENT OFFICER OPERATOR, A DEPUTY SERGEANT, A MASTER DEPUTY, AND EIGHT DEPUTIES IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

AND ANY OF THOSE POSITIONS CAN BE FILLED AT ANY TIME.

UH, THESE POSITIONS ARE NOT BUDGETED, BUT THE DEPARTMENT HAS THE FUNDS AVAILABLE, SO THEY GOT THE GREEN, BUT THEY GOTTA COME BACK TO THE BOARD TO GET A BUD BUDGET APPROPRIATION.

AND THAT'S THE FINANCE OFFICE ASSISTANT WHERE MR. HENDERSON SAT IN THE FRONT DESK OVER THERE AND A PART-TIME FIRE MARSHAL.

AND FIRE AND RESCUE.

SO, SO WHEN YOU, DR.

DALEY, WHEN YOU SAY THAT IT'S BUDGETED, BUT THE DEPARTMENT HAS DEFENSE AVAILABLE, DOES THIS MEAN THAT LIKE THE, UH, THAT THE FIRE MARSH SHOULDN'T KNOW THAT THE, THAT THEY'VE GOT THE SU THAT THEY'VE GOT THE FUNDS AVAILABLE, BUT THEY HAVE A BUDGETED CORRECT.

THE MONEY, THEY HAVE THE MONEY IN THEIR BUDGET, BUT THAT POSITION HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED BY THE BOARD.

SO, BUT WHY WOULD THEY IF, IF YOU'VE GOT A BUDGET AND MICROPHONE, SO, SO IF YOU'VE GOT A BUDGET AND YOU, UM, UH, AND, AND YOU PROPERLY ALLOCATE, YOU KNOW, FUNDS FOR THAT BUDGET, UH, I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND HOW THEY WOULD HAVE THE EXTRA MONEY.

BUT THE, BECAUSE WITH ALMOST 450 TOTAL EMPLOYEES, SOMEBODY COMES AND GOES EVERY WEEK.

SO THERE'S GONNA BE A VACANCY THAT WE BUDGETED FOR THAT WE HAVEN'T FILLED.

AN EXAMPLE, IF WE GO DOWN THIS LINE, NUMBER FOUR, THE THREE BATTALION CHIEFS, WE BUDGETED THEM TO BEGIN LAST JULY.

AND WE ARE JUST INTO THAT PROMOTIONAL PROCESS.

SO WE HAVEN'T FILLED THEM YET.

AND THAT NUMBER, THAT 1.672 IS, IF WE FILLED ALL OF THOSE POSITIONS TODAY WOULD COST US ABOUT 600,000 BECAUSE THE 1 6 72 IS FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR.

NOW, NEXT YEAR WE WOULD HAVE TO BUDGET 1 6 72, BUT IF WE WANTED TO FILL 'EM FOR THIS YEAR, WE COULD DO IT WITH $600,000.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

UH, IN, IN A CONTRACTUAL WAY, YOU COULD SAY THAT IT'S A, A, A, UM, A FIRM FIXED PRICE, UH, CONTRACT THAT YOU GOT THE MONEY FOR, BUT YOU JUST HAVEN'T, YOU HAVEN'T, YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE THE PERSON THERE.

SO THE, THE DEPART, THE DEPARTMENT HAS THE MONEY, THEY JUST HAVEN'T SPENT IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THAT PERSON.

GO UP TO 18, WE'RE AT TWO 50, GO TO 2020, WE'RE AT 2 59.

OKAY, GOT IT.

SO IN ALL THE BUDGET REQUESTS THAT YOU'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, YOU HAVE A SERIES OF POSITIONS UP HERE THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED.

WE HAVE NOT MADE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS YET ON WHAT POSITIONS SHOULD BE FUNDED.

SO THESE POSITIONS ARE PROPOSED BY THE DEPARTMENT.

WE'RE NOT PROPOSING THEM FOR ALLOCATION IN THE BUDGET AT THIS TIME, BUT WHEN WE FINISH UP THE BUDGET, WE MAY BE TALKING TO YOU ABOUT SOME OF THESE POSITIONS AND ALSO SOME OF THESE UPGRADES THAT WERE REQUESTED.

AND SOME OF 'EM WE DEFINITELY WILL NOT.

SO FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, YOU CAN SEE HOW OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE CHANGED THERE.

IF YOU GO BACK TO 14, 2 45,

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AND TODAY WE'RE AT, UH, 2 83.

AND THAT INCLUDES WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN THEIR PUBLIC WORKS.

THE 18 INCLUDES THE DROP FROM PARKS AND RECREATION.

SO THAT TAKES PART OF THAT.

AND THEN PUBLIC SAFETY, WE HAVE ADDED POSITIONS IN THE FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT DELIBERATELY, AND WE'VE ADDED THEM IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DELIBERATELY.

AND THERE ARE OTHERS THAT ARE IN THERE, BUT YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY ARE AND JANE CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY WHO IS WHICH NUMBER UP THERE.

SO WE MOVE THINGS AROUND AT DIFFERENT TIMES.

SOMETIMES WE CALL IT, UH, MUSICAL DESKS, SOMETIMES WE CALL IT MUSICAL POSITIONS, SOMETIMES THEY HAVE OTHER NAMES FOR IT.

BUT THE INTENT IS TO MAKE, MAXIMIZE OUR EFFECTIVENESS.

YOU KNOW, WHEN THE BOARD SAID TWO YEARS AGO WE NEEDED TO BUILD CAPACITY, WE NEEDED CAPACITY, WE NEEDED BACKUP ON OUR POSITIONS.

SO WHEN SOMEBODY GETS OFF IN A KIND OF KIND OF SNOW WAGON, WE'VE GOT A BACKUP HERE AND WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY WHO THEN CAN MOVE INTO THAT POSITION.

WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO GROUND ZERO.

AND SO WE'VE DONE A NUMBER OF THOSE THINGS.

MOVING THE E D A POSITIONS OVER HERE, UH, MOVING PART HR OUT OF FINANCE AND MOVING IT DOWN HERE, MOVING THE, UH, CHANGING A COUPLE OF POSITIONS IN FINANCE, MOVING PARKS, MAINTENANCE OVER TO PUBLIC WORKS, AND THEN CONSOLIDATING SOME POSITIONS ON THE RECREATION SIDE.

WE APPROXIMATELY $210,000.

BUT I WOULD EMPHASIZE IT MORE IMPORTANTLY IS TRYING TO MAXIMIZE OUR EFFICIENCY AND OUR SERVICE TO THE PUBLIC.

YES MA'AM.

SO, UM, I'M LOOKING AT THE, UM, FULL-TIME COUNTY EMPLOYEES LAST 10 FISCAL YEARS AND, UM, IT'S FULL-TIME.

, IS THERE, HAS THERE BEEN AN INCREASE IN PART-TIME PEOPLE OR IS IT, OR THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE PART-TIME PEOPLE? HOW DO YOU, WHAT'S THE, CUZ IT, THIS IS 283 AND YOU MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE 400 AND PART-TIME PRETTY STABLE.

I MEAN, IT MIGHT FLUCTUATE ONE OR TWO, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA HA THERE'S NOT NEARLY AS MUCH OF AN EMPHASIS ON PART-TIME POSITIONS AS THERE ARE ON FULL-TIME.

IT'S MORE LIKELY THAT SOMEBODY WOULD MOVE FROM PART-TIME TO FULL-TIME, LIKE THE OFFICE, UH, MANAGER IN PUB IN PARKS, IN, UH, REC, EXCUSE ME, IN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT BACK THERE.

SO FROM FOR EIGHT YEARS, YOU'VE ADDED FOUR PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT ADMINISTRATION.

, SIX PEOPLE IN JUDICIAL.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE PUBLIC SAFETY IS ALMOST THE SAME NUMBER AS IT WAS IN 2014.

UM, PUBLIC WORKS HAS GROWN, BUT I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE YOU TOOK PARKS AND RECREATION AND MOVED IT TO PUBLIC WORKS.

SO, UM, AND THE INCREASE IN ADMINISTRATION, LET'S REMEMBER THAT SOME OF THAT ARE THE FOUR PEOPLE IN IT, IT RIGHT BEFORE WE HAD NO IT DEPARTMENT.

LOTS OF MOVING PARTS.

SO, SO DR.

DALEY SHOWS THAT, UH, THAT IN, IN PUBLIC WORKS AND PARK AND RECREATION, THAT WE SAVED $80,000.

BUT THE, UH, BUT I SEE THAT, UH, IF YOU ADD THE, UH, 2020 UH, NUMBERS, IT'S 35 AND THEN IF YOU ADD THE 2022, IT'S 41.

SO WE, WE WENT UP IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, BUT WE SAVED $80,000.

I SEE.

UH, 17 AND FIVE.

NOW WHAT WHAT I'M SAYING IS BEC BECAUSE WE'VE, WE HAVE COMBINED PUBLIC WORKS AND PARK AND REC RECREATION.

SO IF YOU ADD THE, THE 2020, IT'S 18 AND 17, WELL THAT'S 35 AND THEN 2022 IS 36 AND FIVE, THAT'S 41.

BUT WE'RE SAYING THAT, THAT ALL TOGETHER WE SAVED $80,000 IN, IN PARKS AND RECREATION AND THE MOVE TO PUBLIC WORKS, PART OF THE SAVINGS COMES WHEN WE DON'T

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HAVE TO CONTRACT THINGS.

WE HAVE, WE NOW HAVE THIS CREW THAT GOES OUT AND DOES PROJECTS.

GOT IT.

THAT OTHERWISE WE WOULD BE HIRING CONTRACTORS FOR THAT MAKES SENSE.

DELIN, THE DELINQUENT COLLECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR MM-HMM.

AND THE SAVINGS PERSONNEL CAME WHEN WE MOVED THE GROUP OVER AT THE YOUTH CENTER OVER TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THEY BECAME ALL ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY.

SO THAT THEN REDUCED THE NUMBERS.

WE LOOKED, AND WE DON'T KNOW OF ANY POSITION THAT A PRIOR BOARD HAS APPROVED THAT IS FUNDED IN THE BUDGET.

I CAN'T SAY THAT THEY DON'T EXIST SOMEPLACE, CUZ I, YEARS AGO IN PLANNING WE HAD A GIS ADMINISTRATOR AND A GIS ASSISTANT.

BUT RIGHT NOW THE GI S ASSISTANT IS NOT FUNDED.

SO I WOULD COUNT THAT AS AN X CUZ IT CAN'T BE, IT CAN'T BE FILLED.

IF YOU GO BACK OVER HERE WHERE WE WERE BEFORE, IT CAN'T BE FILLED UNTIL THE BOARD APPROPRIATES MONEY FOR IT.

SO IF THERE'S NO MONEY IN THERE, THEY CAN'T FILL IT.

AND IT ENDS UP ON YOUR LIST DOWN HERE AS PROPOSED GIS TECHNICIAN FOR NEXT YEAR.

AND THAT TECHNICALLY WOULD BE COMPARABLE TO AN OLD POSITION.

SLIGHTLY CHANGED, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE SAME.

BUT THERE'S NO MONEY IN THE OLD POSITION, SO YOU CAN'T, WE CAN'T FILL IT WITHOUT AN APPROPRIATION.

WOULDN'T THAT, UH, I SAW THAT THERE'S ONE THAT'S, UH, THAT'S, UH, THE, THE LAST, LET SEE WHERE, WHERE IS IT? UM, RIGHT THERE.

WOULDN'T THAT POSITION KIND OF FUND ITSELF? IT COULD, IT HAS A GREAT DEAL OF POTENTIAL.

AND I THINK THAT'S, UH, DEFINITELY LATE ONE WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY POSITIONS THAT WE REALLY WANNA LOOK AT.

UH, BUT RIGHT NOW, AS OF MARCH OF 23, THAT POSITION IS NOT FUNDED.

WHEN YOU DO THE BUDGET, WHEN YOU ADOPT A BUDGET, THERE'S A GOOD PROBABILITY CONSIDER IN THE BOARD'S INTEREST IN THAT POSITION THAT YOU WILL FUND IT.

BUT, BUT THAT'S ALSO JUST A STARTING POINT.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN? UM, YOU'VE GOTTA FUND IT SO THE, SO THE PERSON CAN, CAN GET HIRED YES.

AND GO TO WORK.

SO THIS IS A LITTLE HARD TO READ.

NOW, SIX MONTHS FROM NOW OR 12 MONTHS FROM NOW, HE SHOULD HAVE MADE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY FOR HIMSELF.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE.

WHEN WE HAVE AN EXISTING VACANCY, THAT FIRST LIST, WE LOOKED OF THE 22 POSITIONS THAT ARE FUNDED AND BUDGETED BUT ARE NOT FILLED, THEY'RE VACANT.

THE DEPARTMENT HEAD HAS TO NOTIFY HR OF THE VACANCY.

AND THEN THE DEPARTMENT HEAD AND HR TALK ABOUT THE TIMELINE TO FILL IT.

I HAVE PROPOSED THAT THAT CONVERSATION INCLUDE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

AND THEN I HAVE PROPOSED THAT THE FINANCE DIRECTOR VERIFY THAT THERE'S MONEY AVAILABLE FOR THE POSITION BEFORE YOU GO, BEFORE WE GO TO FILL IT.

THAT YEAH, IT'S A BUDGETED POSITION, BUT YOU SPENT ALL YOUR MONEY OR NO YOU DIDN'T AND YOU'VE GOT MONEY FOR IT.

AND IF YOU HAVE MONEY FOR IT, THEN YOU WOULD BE ALLOWED TO PROCEED TO FILL IT.

AND THERE WOULD BE A PA APPLICATIONS AND THEN THERE'S A PANEL AND THEN THERE'S A SELECTION.

AND WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

IF IT'S WITHIN 10% OF THE STARTING SALARY, THE DEPARTMENT HEAD CAN APPROVE IT.

IF IT'S WITHIN 20% OF THE STARTING SALARY, I CAN APPROVE IT.

IF IT'S HIGHER THAN 20%, THEN THE BOARD HAS TO APPROVE PAID MORE.

IF IT'S A NEW POSITION, IF YOUR DELINQUENT ACCOUNTS THAT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, IF THAT POSITION WERE, IS APPROVED IN THE BUDGET, THEN AFTER THE POSITION HAS BEEN REVIEWED IN THE BUDGET AND APPROVED, THEN WE WOULD GO DOWN TO STEP THREE AND PUT POSTED ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE AND BEGIN THE SAME PROCESS WE HAD BEFORE.

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YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT.

SO THE UH, STATE HAS NOT COMPLETED THEIR BUDGET.

SO IN GREAT THOUGHT AMONG, UH, GREAT THINKERS, WE HAVE CANCELED THE MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD UNTIL THEY HAVE A BUDGET THAT THEY KNOW WHAT TO PRESENT.

AND INSTEAD WE ARE INVITING YOU TO COME AT FIVE O'CLOCK.

SO YOU WON'T HAVE TO WASTE THAT HALF HOUR BETWEEN FIVE AND FIVE 30.

AND WE WILL DO PUBLIC WORKS WITH MR, WE WILL DO ASSET REPLACEMENT FUND WITH MRS. SCOTT, AND THEN WE WILL DO THE C I P WITH MRS. LOGAN, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO FINANCE AND PURCHASING WITH MRS. SCOTT.

AND THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO USE THAT EVENING TO ESSENTIALLY WRAP UP YOUR DEPARTMENT LINE ITEMS SO THAT YOU WILL HAVE SEEN THEM AND YOU CAN TAKE THOSE AND YOU CAN DRAW LINES AND CHANGE WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE AND SO FORTH.

SO WITH THE ASSESSMENT, THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION, ONE OF THE MEMBERS HAS WITHDRAWN.

SO, SO WE HAVE ASKED THE, WE HAVE ASKED THE, UM, ALTERNATE TO ASSUME THAT POSITION AND SHE WAS WORKING ON THAT.

MRS. SOS WAS, AND THEN YOU WILL NEED TO APPOINT AN ADDITIONAL PERSON AT YOUR NEXT MEETING.

SO THAT WILL BE ON YOUR AGENDA FOR THE 21ST.

SO DR.

DALEY, I HAD A PERSON THAT I BELIEVE APPLIED.

I WILL GO BACK IN MY EMAIL BECAUSE SHE, DO YOU HAVE AN APP? UH, SHE APPLIED TOO LATE TO BE APPOINTED TO THE PREVIOUS BOARD OF EQUALIZATION, BUT STILL EXPRESSED GREAT INTEREST IN SERVING.

UM, WE CAN CHECK THAT.

SO CAN WE CHECK THAT AND MAKE AND SEE AND IF SHE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN APPLICATION, MR. ROCKY, I CAN REACH OUT TO HER AGAIN.

BUT, BUT WHEN WOULD WE NEED TO HAVE HER TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION? BECAUSE WE CAN'T STOP THE PROCESS.

WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE B OE RIGHT NOW.

WELL YOU, WE NEED TO APPOINT THIS.

IF, IF THIS ONE IS ALREADY SUBMITTED AND THE BOARD IS HAPPY WITH IT, YOU COULD AMEND YOUR AGENDA AND APPOINT IT TONIGHT.

IF IT IS NOT THERE AND WE GET IT, YOU NEED TO APPOINT ON THE 21ST.

THAT WORKS.

BECAUSE IT, IT NEEDS TO BE DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

YEP.

THE SECOND TO ADOPT THE BUDGET.

NEXT WEEK ON TUESDAY YOU WILL HAVE YOUR REGULAR WORK SESSION AND WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT FEES IN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING INSPECTIONS.

WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE AGRITOURISM AMENDMENT.

WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE PROPO, UH, PETITION TO GO CAMPING IN SHENANDOAH SHORES.

AND ONE MORE THING, MRS. LOGAN, SHORT TERM RENTAL RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THAT TOO.

AND THEN ALSO THE COMMISSIONER WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT FEES FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTALS ON THE 26.

ON THE 16TH, THERE WILL BE NO MEETING.

SO THAT MEETING YOU WILL BE OFF FOR ST.

PATRICK'S DAY ON THE 21ST.

WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT ON THE 23RD, WE SHOULD HAVE THE TENTATIVE AN EMPHASIS ON THE WORD TENTATIVE WORK SESSION WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD.

IF THE STATE DOES NOT MEET IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO MOVE IT AGAIN.

BUT WE WILL HAVE OTHER THINGS FOR YOU TO DO.

UH, WE WILL BE APPROACHING AT THAT SAME TIME, VERY CLOSE COMING IN WITH THE, UM, ASSESSOR'S BOOK AND WHEN HE SIGNS THAT WE CAN WORK ON THE RATE EQUALIZATION.

AND MR. PEARSON WILL BE HERE AT YOUR SEVEN O'CLOCK MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THE ASSESSMENT PROCESS FOR YOU.

SO YOU CAN TALK TO HIM AND ASK ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE DESTROYED MRS. SHARA'S NICE, NEAT, UH, BUDGET ADOPTION SCHEDULE.

SO WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT PROBABLY MAY

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AND THAT OF COURSE IS ALL FLEXIBLE AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE THE ASSESSOR'S REPORT.

WHEN THE ASSESSORS WERE HERE FOR FOUR WEEKS, THEY LOOKED AT 1,110 CASES.

AND OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO CAME IN 881, THEY WERE CHANGED.

THEY WERE, THEIR ASSESSMENT WAS REDUCED.

NOW WHETHER IT WAS REDUCED A DOLLAR, A HUNDRED DOLLARS OR $10,000, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT WAS REDUCED.

SO 80% OF THOSE WHO CAME IN TO TALK DID A GOOD JOB AND THEY WERE SUCCESSFUL AND IT REDUCED OUR TOTAL VALUES BY $30,650,000.

SO THOSE PEOPLE COMBINED, THOSE 800 HAVE A TOTAL REDUCTION IN THEIR VALUATION OF 30 MILLION, ALMOST 31 A THOUSAND PEOPLE.

AND 30 MILLION.

THAT 30 MILLION QUESTIONS.

WOW.

LET'S TRAVIS AS A NUMBERS PERSON, I GOTTA SEE HOW THAT WORKS.

881, IT'S 881.

THAT'S 80%.

I I I'M JUST CURIOUS WHERE DID ANY OF THEM GO UP? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

IF THEY DID, IF ANYBODY'S GONNA GET A NOTICE THAT THEIR ASSESSMENT WENT UP, YOU'LL HEAR IT.

BUT I DON'T THINK SO.

I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY THAT WENT UP.

I I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

CAUSE YOU KNOW, I I WOULD ASSUME NOT.

AND THAT'S IN ASSESSMENT, THAT'S NOT IN TAXES, THAT'S IN VALUE.

NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY REAL QUESTIONS.

I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.

I APPRECIATE IT.

, THANK YOU.

IT'S ALSO GOOD TO SEE THAT THE PROCESS IS WORKING WELL.

IT IS.

I'M I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THE RESULTS OF THE ASSESSMENTS.

I WAS VERY PLEASED THAT THAT MANY PEOPLE, THEY, THEY SEEMED TO BE REASONABLY HAPPY WHEN THEY CAME AND GOING.

NOBODY WAS HAPPY TALKING TO THE TAX MAN, BUT THEY WEREN'T ALL UPSET AND UP IN ARMS OUT IN THE HALL.

SO WE THOUGHT IT MUST HAVE GONE WELL.

WELL, DR.

DALEY, I'D LIKE TO, UM, REITERATE WHAT YOU TOLD ME AND WHAT, UM, SHERRY SOURS TOLD ME IS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS NO INFLUENCE.

ABSOLUTELY MA'AM.

AND THESE FIGURES THAT'S RIGHT.

IN THESE ASSESSMENTS OR IN THE REDUCTIONS OF THESE ASSESSMENTS, THIS, WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

IT IS, IT'S NOT EVEN WITHIN OUR AUTHORITY.

YOU DON'T, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO.

YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY.

I HAVE THAT ON THE ADVICE OF OUR ATTORNEY.

THANK YOU, .

SO DR.

DAYLA, I JUST WANTED TO, TO CONFIRM SO THAT WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY ON THAT, NOR DO WE HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO CHANGE THE PROCESS THROUGH WHICH THEY DO THE ASSESSMENTS CORRECT? NO, SIR.

THAT'S GOVERNED BY THE STATE.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DR.

DALEY? NO, THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.

WE ARE GOING, THE BOARD IS GONNA GO INTO A CLOSE SE SESSION UNDER THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.

SO THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR WORK SEC WORK SESSIONS AGENDA IS THAT, UM,

[B. Closed Session - Section 2.2-3711(A)(1) of the Virginia Freedom of Information Act re: Personnel]

UM, IS THERE A MOTION, MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE WE DO THAT, DO YOU MIND IF I ADDRESS, UM, THE HIRING FREEZE? IT'S ON OUR AGENDA SINCE WE HAVE SOME OF THE FIRE AND EMS PEOPLE HERE.

SURE.

FAIR.

GOOD.

UM, I PLANNED TO ASK FOR THAT TO BE REMOVED.

DR.

DALEY AND I TALKED THIS AFTERNOON, UM, AND I REALLY DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS EVEN ON WHEN I HAD FIRST ASKED ABOUT THIS IN THE EMAIL THAT EVERYONE HAS SEEN THERE.

MY CONCERN WAS FILL IN POSITIONS WHEN WE WERE AT AN UNKNOWN PERIOD OF TIME OF WHAT OUR BUDGET WAS GONNA LOOK LIKE AND ANY POSITIONS THAT WE COULD PUT ON HOLD FOR THAT WINDOW FROM, UM, UNTIL WE KNEW WHAT THOSE NUMBERS WERE THAT WE RECENTLY GOTTEN WITH THE AUDIT.

UM, AND THAT ONE, I DIDN'T PICK THE SINGLE OUT FIRE AND RESCUE.

I SIMPLY PICKED IT BECAUSE I KNEW WE HAD STAFF TRAINED AND WHETHER WE FILLED IT OR NOT, WE HAD THE, THE PEOPLE ALREADY HERE WITH THE EXPERTISE TO DO THAT.

SO I FELT LIKE IT WAS ONE THAT I COULD USE AS AN EXAMPLE TO THE BOARD WHEN I SENT THAT EMAIL WITH THE, AND I REREAD IT AND REALIZED THAT I DIDN'T CLARIFY MYSELF VERY WELL WITH THAT.

BUT, UM, SINCE DR.

DALEY'S ASSURED ME THAT THERE'S,

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WE'RE PRETTY GOOD WITH WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS BUDGET AND WE DON'T FORESEE ANY NEED TO INCREASE IT MORE THAN WHAT OUR EQUALIZATION RATE WILL BE.

UM, I'D LIKE TO, WHEN WE GET TO THE AGENDA TO REMOVE THAT.

BUT I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR, I'VE ALWAYS SUPPORTED THE FIRE AND RESCUE GUYS AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THEM.

AND IT WAS NOT, I REALIZED IT'S CREATED QUITE A, AN UPROAR.

UM, AND LIKE I SAID, I, WHEN I SENT THE EMAIL, NO ONE REPLIED.

SO I THOUGHT IT WAS DEAD IN THE WATER.

AND WHEN MR. BERRY TOLD ME, UH, AFTER A MEETING ON THURSDAY, AND I DIDN'T EVEN SEE IT UNTIL, UM, ACTUALLY I OPENED IT UP THIS MORNING BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK THERE WOULD BE ANYTHING THERE TO LOOK AT UNTIL I TALKED TO THE CHIEF.

AND, UM, I APOLOGIZE TO ALL OF THOSE THAT THAT EMAIL CAUSED ANY DISTURBANCE TO, LIKE I SAID, I, YOU KNOW, I TAKE THIS POSITION VERY SERIOUSLY TRYING TO MANAGE THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY.

AND THAT'S, UM, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE FIRE, EMS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES, I WANT YOU ALL TO HAVE WHAT YOU NEED TO DO YOUR JOB SAFELY AND TO BE WELL-EQUIPPED.

AND, YOU KNOW, MY WHOLE, MY WHOLE THOUGHT PROCESS HERE WAS PUT IT ON HOLD WITH THE EXPECTATIONS THAT WE WERE GONNA BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEM.

SO, UM, NOW THAT I'M AT A PLACE WHERE I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, I'VE, LIKE I SAID, I THOUGHT I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GONNA BE ON THE AGENDA.

I WISHED IT HADN'T BEEN.

AND, UM, I'M GONNA PLAN TO PULL IT AND I DON'T SEE ANY SENSE NOT TRYING TO TAKE AWAY FROM ANYONE WHO WANTS TO STAY AND TAKE ME TO TASK FOR THIS.

YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO, BUT I KNOW MOST OF YOU PROBABLY WORKED OR NEED TO GET BACK TO WORK.

SO IF YOU'RE FINE WITH THIS AND YOU DON'T WANNA STAY, BUT IF YOU WANT TO, I'LL BE GLAD TO HEAR YOU OUT LATER AT THE PUBLIC COMMENT TIME.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

VERY GOOD.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NOPE.

VERY WELL.

SO GOING BACK TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO GO INTO THE CLOSED SESSION? MADAM CHAIR? I CAN READ THIS IN.

UM, I MOVED THAT THE BOARD ENTERED INTO A CLOSED MEETING UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 2.2 DASH 37 11 A, ONE OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT FOR THE DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ASSIGNMENT, APPOINTMENT, PROMOTION, PERFORMANCE, DEMOTION, SALARIES, OR RESIGNATION OF A SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICER OF THE PUBLIC BODY.

SPECIFICALLY IN REGARD TO THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF BUILDING CODE OF APPEALS, THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL AND THE COUNTY OF WARREN, VIRGINIA AND THE SHEO FARM SANITARY DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

MR. HAM, DID YOU WANT TO ADD THERE'S A REVISED MOTION I OH, OKAY.

DO I GOTTA READ IT AGAIN? , YOU LET HIM GET THROUGH THAT WHOLE THING BEFORE YOU SAID THIS.

DID A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I THANK YOU.

YOU'RE GOOD.

SO WE ARE WE GOOD? YES, WE'RE GOOD.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. MAIM? AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MADAME CHAIR? AYE.

MRS. COLORS? HI MR. BUTLER.

HI.

CALLING THE SPEEDING TO ORDER.

WE'RE GOING AT THE CLOSED SESSION SESSION IS, I DON'T KNOW.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? THERE WE GO.

OKAY, WE'RE COMING OUTTA CLOSE AGENDA, UH, CLOSED SESSION.

AND DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER SECTION 2.2 DASH 37 11 A, ONE OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND ONLY SUCH BUSINESS MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION FOR WHICH THE ME CLOSED MEETING WERE CONVENED, WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING BY THE PUBLIC BODY.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE.

WE'RE OUTTA CLOSED SESSION.

WE'RE MOVING INTO OUR SEVEN O'CLOCK AGENDA.

UM, AND WE'LL START WITH AN OPENING PRAYER WITH, UM, PASTOR DESANTIS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

FATHER, THANK YOU FOR LIFE AND THANK YOU FATHER FOR YOUR

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GOODNESS TO US.

THANK YOU FOR THE FREEDOMS THAT WE ENJOY IN THIS GREAT LAND.

AND FATHER, I THANK YOU FOR THIS COUNCIL AND I PRAY FOR THEM.

I KNOW THAT, UH, THEY HAVE DECISIONS TO MAKE THAT SOMETIMES ARE DIFFICULT AND THAT DON'T ALWAYS SET WELL WITH THE CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT CITY.

AND SO, FATHER, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM WISDOM.

I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GUIDE AND DIRECT THEM IN THEIR DECISIONS.

FATHER AND I PRAY THAT EACH WHO SPEAK TONIGHT AND ALL THAT IS SAID AND DONE WILL BE DONE IN A RESPECTFUL WAY AND IN A WAY THAT WOULD GIVE HONOR AND GLORY TO THEE AND TO OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST.

FOR IT'S IN HIS NAME I PRAY.

[C. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America]

WILL EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO DEFY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

GOOD.

ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE ADOPTION OF OUR AGENDA.

[D. Adoption of Agenda – Additions or Deletions]

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? UH, MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE ITEM K ON THE AGENDA.

K OR J? K.

I THINK YOU NEED J WELL MINE'S K.

MINE IS K AS WELL.

YOURS.

OH REALLY? I GOT IT.

ARE YOU LOOKING? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT YES.

THE NEWEST ONE HERE IS, YOU'RE CORRECT.

IT IS K.

I GOT THE WRONG ONE.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? SHE, YES.

SOMETIMES I'M MADAM CHAIR.

I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE ADD TO THE AGENDA THE EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT AWARD NOTIFICATION FOR REPAIRS TO THE POOL HOUSE.

AND THAT WOULD BE, LET ME SEE.

ANY UH, ANY OTHER CHANGES AT WE ALL GOOD? YEP.

NEXT ITEM IS, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

VERY WELL.

SO DO WE HAVE A, UM, A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, UH, THE AGENDA AS WITH THESE CHANGES? SO MOVED.

A ROLL CALL PLEASE.

OH, WE HAD A MOTION.

WE DIDN'T HAVE A SECOND THOUGH, DID WE? SECOND.

NOW THAT I HAVE THE RIGHT AGENDA.

COOL.

OKAY, THE

[E. Public Comment Period (60 Minute Time Limit)]

UM, GONNA GO AHEAD AND READ OUR GUIDELINES.

THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO GIVE INPUT ON ANY RELEVANT ISSUE, NOT THE SUBJECT OF A PUBLIC HEARING, AND IS NOT INTENDED AS A QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD.

THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD SHALL BE LIMITED TO 60 MINUTES WITH A MAXIMUM THREE MINUTES FOR ANY ONE SPEAKER.

SPEAKERS WILL MAY ONLY SPEAK ONCE AND WILL BE HEARD IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY'VE SIGNED UP.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, MS. ROCKY, HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP.

MADAM CHAIR, IS THERE ANYONE THE AUDIENCE WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? YES.

OH, WHICH ONE? .

THERE YOU GO.

DENNIS DAVID.

3 0 5 KENDALL COURT, FRONT ROW, VIRGINIA.

UH, SINCE THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE TALKING ABOUT DELINQUENT TAXES, AND I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, DOING SOME EQUALIZATION SOON.

HAVEN'T HEARD WHEN THAT MEETING MIGHT BE, BUT ANYWAY, SINCE, SINCE I WAS HERE THE LAST TIME I PRINTED OUT A COPY FOR MYSELF AND MY WIFE OF THE DELINQUENT TAXES FROM THE WARREN COUNTY WEBSITE.

AND BECAUSE IT'S NOT TOTALED ON THE WEBSITE, MY WIFE AND I SPENT A COUPLE OF HOURS EACH D UH, TOTALING UP TO 46 PAGES AND IT COMES TO OVER $2,100,000.

UM, I'VE HEARD TALK ABOUT, UH, THE SUSPENSION OF COLLECTIONS BECAUSE OF COVID AND SUCH AS THAT.

HOWEVER,

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UH, I'VE HIGHLIGHTED MOST OF THE DELINQUENT TAXES THAT GO BACK AS FAR AS 2003, WHICH IS FAR BE WAY EARLIER THAN COVID.

AND ALSO TALKED TO JAMIE SPIKER AND SHE TOLD ME THE TREASURER, I'M SORRY, WARREN COUNTY TREASURER THAT, UH, AFTER 20 YEARS THEY DROP THE LISTING OFF THE, OFF THE DELINQUENT TAXES.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY FORGIVE THEM OR WHAT, BUT ANYWAY, QUITE A FEW OF THE DELINQUENT TAXES ON THE WEBSITE THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT, UM, OR GO BACK TO WELL BEYOND COVID.

AND I ASKED HER ABOUT, UH, UM, TAX, UM, AUCTIONS AND SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH POSITIONS TO, TO ADDRESS THAT PROPERLY AND WOULD ASK, SHE ASKED ME TO ASK YOU GUYS IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER MORE POSITIONS FOR COLLECTING THESE TAXES AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT BEFORE WE, UH, ENTER INTO RAISING OUR TAXES.

AGENDA IS, UM, REPORT FROM BDO.

ANYBODY ELSE? YES SIR.

OUR WELLS ARE BILL, MY WIFE AND I LIVED IN THE BEDFORD HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS OFF OF ROCKY LANE IN THE COUNTY.

IN MID-JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, WE RECEIVED THE 2023 REASSESSMENT NOTICE FOR TAX FOR OUR REAL ESTATE.

I CAN TELL YOU, MY WIFE AND I, WHEN WE FIRST SAW THAT WERE SHOCKED, DISMAYED, AND WE'RE MORE THAN ALARMED RIGHT NOW AT THE VALUATION GIVEN TO US IN JANUARY 23RD.

WE MET WITH PEARSON'S APPRAISAL SERVICE RIGHT HERE AT THIS TABLE.

AND AFTER AN EXPLANATION OF OUR SITUATION IN OUR PROPERTY, MR. PEARSON TAKING NOTES AGREED THAT THE VALUATION FOR OUR BUILDING SHOULD BE REDUCED AND WE WOULD BE PROVIDED WITH A NEW ASSESSMENT.

I HAVE SEEN 76 WINTERS AND MY WIFE HAS SEEN 60 WINTERS.

SHE IS LEGALLY BLIND.

SHE CANNOT PASS A DIVISION OF MOTOR VEHICLE'S VISION TEST AND SUBSEQUENTLY, SHE CANNOT DRIVE THE UNITED STATES FEDERAL TAX FORM.

10 40 SR ALLOWS ME TO CHECK A BOX BECAUSE OF MY AGE.

IT ALSO ALLOWS A BOX FOR HER, FOR HER BLINDNESS.

THE HEADING FOR THE WARREN COUNTY'S REAL ESTATE TAX RELIEF APPLICATION STATES FOR THE ELDERLY AND DISABLED.

THE ELDERLY AND DISABLED DESCRIPTION HERE IS DECEIVINGLY INACCURATE.

THE STIPULATIONS OF THE APPLICATION SAY THAT IF YOU ARE UNDER 65 YEARS OLD, YOU MUST BE 100% DISABLED.

IT GOES ON TO SAY THAT IF AN APPLICANT EXCEEDS A CERTAIN MONETARY VALUE, THEY WILL BE GRANTED NO CONSIDERATION WHATSOEVER FOR ANY TAX RELIEF, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY ARE ELDERLY.

THE UNITED STATES FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, OKAY? THEY DO NOT ASK FOR THE VALUE OF OUR VEHICLES, NOR DO THEY ASK HOW MUCH READY CASH THAT MY WIFE AND I HAVE IN A BUREAU DRAWER.

NOR DO THEY ASK FOR THE BALANCE OF OUR CHECKING ACCOUNT OR SAVING'S ACCOUNT OR ANY OTHER INVESTMENTS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE.

THEY DO NOT ASK FOR THE NUMBER OF ROOMS IN OUR HOUSE VALUING EACH ROOM IN A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

NOR DOES THE UNITED STATES FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ASK WHAT THE VALUE OF MY INDIAN HEAD PENNY COLLECTION IS.

BUT WARREN COUNTY DOES AND THEY ASK FOR EVEN MORE THAN THAT.

MY WIFE AND I WERE NOT BORN WITH, NOR WERE WE RAISED WITH A SILVER SPOON IN OUR MOUTHS.

SO FAR, WE HAVE WORKED OUR ENTIRE LIVES IN THE ATTEMPT TO CHASE THE SO-CALLED AMERICAN DREAM.

AT THIS POINT.

WE OWN OUR HOME OUTRIGHT.

SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE PAID OFF OUR MORTGAGE COMPLETELY.

WE HAVE

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NO HOME EQUITY LOANS.

WE CARRY NO CREDIT CARD DEBT OF ANY KIND.

WE OWE NO ONE OH YOUR THREE MINUTES.

SAREPTA, ARE YOU ALMOST DONE? I'M ALMOST THERE.

DUE TO OUR FRUGAL PHILOSOPHY AND WAY OF LIFE, WE'VE SUCCEEDED IN SETTING ASIDE A SMALL MODEST NEST EGG FOR AN EMERGENCY OR FOR HOPEFULLY GOD WILLING, OUR RETIREMENT.

AND YET NO CONSIDERATION WHATSOEVER IS ALLOWED FOR OUR AGE AND DISABILITY HERE IN WARREN COUNTY.

SO WE ASK OF YOU, WHY ARE WE BEING PUNISHED FOR DOING THE RIGHT THING? I ASK YOU AGAIN, WHY ARE WE BEING PUNISHED? THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? NO ONE.

THIS IS THE FINAL CALL.

VERY WELL PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW OVER.

NEXT ITEM ON OUR

[F. Reports – Board Members, County Administrator, County Attorney]

MR. CARTER, ADAM CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M HERE TONIGHT SO YOU CAN SEE THAT I'M STILL LIVING .

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

UM, I'LL REPORT, REPORT FOR THIS MONTH IS THAT WE HAVE DONE AND SOME OF IT'S REPETITIVE FOR WHAT I SENT IN THE LAST MONTH.

UH, CAUSE IT WAS A SHORT, IT'S A SHORT TIME BETWEEN YOUR MEETINGS THIS TIME, BUT WE'VE DONE SHOULDER REPAIRS ON, UH, 6 38 BLUE MOUNTAIN ROAD, ALSO ON 5 22 AND THREE 40 WINCHESTER ROAD.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE THOSE SHOULDER REPAIRS ON OTHER ROUTES.

THIS MONTH WE'VE CUT BRUSH ON 6 58 ROCKMAN ROAD, UH, ROUTE 6 99 CEDAR CRESS LANE AND ROUTE 6 0 9 RITEN HOLLOW ROAD, UH, THAT HAS AMOUNTED TO 84 TRUCKLOADS, 132 TONS OF BRUSH THAT WE'VE CUT SO FAR THIS WINTER.

UM, WE'LL CONTINUE THAT BRUSH CUTTING THIS MONTH ON VARIOUS, UH, ROUTES INCLUDING ROUTE SIX 13, WHICH, UH, WE RECEIVED, UH, A NOTICE FROM, UH, SUPERVISOR CALLERS UP THERE.

SO WE WILL GET TO THAT THIS MONTH.

AND, UH, WE, WE USED A COMBINATION OF, UH, REGIONAL JAIL FOLKS, UH, THE VDOT FORCES AND WE'VE COLLECTED 173 BAGS OF TRASH OFF OF THREE 40 STONEWALL JACKSON, HIGHWAY SIX 19 RIVERMONT ROAD, AND SIX 13 BENTONVILLE ROAD.

THIS MONTH WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING IN CONTRACTORS TO CONTINUE WITH LITTER PICKUP IN THE COUNTY ON ALONG VARIOUS ROUTES.

UH, WE'VE CONDUCTED OUR GRADING OPERATIONS ON STABILIZED ROADS, AND WE'LL CONTINUE THAT THIS MONTH ALONG WITH ANY POTHOLE PATCHING BY PATCHING.

AND WE'VE ALSO MOBILIZED FOR A COUPLE OF WEATHER EVENTS.

WE'VE HAD A PRETTY MILD WINTER, UH, SO FAR.

THAT MEANS FOR WARREN COUNTY IS LAST YEAR WARREN COUNTY HAD $110,000 TO DO ALL OF THESE THINGS.

UH, I'LL SAY THAT AGAIN AT THE END OF MAY.

, RIGHT NOW, IT'S BEEN FAIRLY MILD, BUT EVEN WHEN WE HAVE THESE SMALL EVENTS, OKAY, UH, WHEN WE MOBILIZE DISTRICTWIDE, EVEN FOR WHAT WE CALL A LEVEL ONE OR TWO WHERE WE BRING WATCH CREWS IN OR MAYBE JUST TWO TRUCKS IN, UH, TO COVER A GIVEN ROUTE, IT COST OUR DISTRICT A LITTLE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS FOR EVERY MOBILIZATION.

SO WE'VE, WE HAVE, UH, OUR DISTRICT-WIDE BUDGET WAS $16 MILLION THIS YEAR AND, AND WE HAVE 2 MILLION LEFT.

THAT'S HOW MANY TIMES WE'VE HAD TO MOBILIZE EVEN FOR THESE ANNOYING ONES.

UH, BOARD ISSUES, UH, BROWNTOWN ROAD, UH, WE HAVE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING'S REPORT FOR ALL THE SYSTEMIC SAFETY RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE ARE OUT THERE THIS WEEK.

UH, WE'VE MARKED FOR UTILITIES.

WE'VE GOT 12 DIFFERENT UTILITY COMPANIES OUT THERE.

UH, HAD NO IDEA WE HAD THAT MANY, BUT IN ANY CASE, AS SOON AS THEY GET MARKED AND THEIR TIMEFRAME IS UP TOMORROW, SO WE WILL BE OUT THERE ON, UH, THURSDAY BEGINNING TO INSTALL THE DELINEATORS.

THE, THERE WILL BE CHEVRON.

THEY WANTED CHEVRON'S ADDED ON SOME OF THE MORE SEVERE CURVES.

OKAY, WE HAVE THE PARTS ORDERED FOR THAT.

WE HAVE THE CHEVRON'S THEMSELF, BUT

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THERE'S AN ANCHOR.

THERE'S A BACK ORDER ON THE ANCHORAGE, WHICH HOLDS THEM IN PLACE.

SO SOON AS THAT COMES IN, WE'LL BE OUT THERE PUTTING THOSE IN, UH, ABOUT 55 AT HIGH KNOB.

WE ARE EXPECTED AND WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN LINE.

WE'RE EXPECTED TO HAVE THOSE, UH, PREEMPTIVE FLIGHTS INSTALLED AND WORKING BY FALL OF THIS YEAR.

UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE FOLKS AT NIHA HIGH KNOB TO, UH, TAP INTO THEIR POWER SOURCE DOWN AT THE GATE, WHICH WILL SAVE US SOME TIME.

I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH, UH, MR. PALMOY THERE ABOUT THAT, UH, THE, THE MEDIAN, WHICH, UH, I SAID THAT WE, WE PUT UP THE REFLECTOR , I BELIEVE MR. MAY WITNESSED ONE ON THE OTHER, UH, NOSE SOMETIME TODAY.

THE ONE THAT WE PUT UP DIDN'T LAST PAST THE FIRST SNOW.

SO AS SOON AS THE WEATHER STAYS WARM ENOUGH AND WE COULD HAVE TO QUIT PUTTING CHEMICALS DOWN, WE'LL BE PAINTING THAT NOSE.

WE WILL USE WHAT WE CALL PEARLS.

WHEN THE PAINT'S WET, WE THROW THEM IN THERE, THEY'RE REFLECTIVE AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA PUT DELINEATORS AROUND THE NOSE.

UM, THE SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN, OUR GIN MOD IS OPEN.

WE HAVE NOT SEEN THE DOLLAR FIGURES.

WE'RE EXPECTING THEM ANY DAY AS SOON AS WE GET THEM.

I WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN AT A WORK SESSION IN PERSON WITH THE BOARD AND TALK ABOUT THE DOLLARS.

WE HAVE 'EM DISTRIBUTED, BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE GONNA GET THIS YEAR TO ADD TO THAT.

AND OF COURSE, YOUR, UH, STAFF HAS PREPARED A RANKING SYSTEM.

SO I'D JUST LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE NUMBERS AND BE SURE THAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE STILL THAT WAY.

WE'VE HAD SOME COMPLAINTS AT, UH, ABOUT THE LIGHT AT SHATTERS DRIVE IN ROUTE 5 22.

UH, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND VS P UH, ABOUT THE COMPLAINTS ABOUT SPEEDING AND THE LIGHT TIMING.

OUR TRAFFIC HAS VERIFIED THAT THE SIGNAL TIMINGS ARE CORRECT OUT THERE.

THERE'S BEEN TWO ACCIDENTS IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, WHICH IS COMPARED TO, UH, THE AVERAGE FOR THE, THE DISTRICT IS REALLY NOT THAT BAD.

WE DON'T WANT ANY ACCIDENTS, BUT IT'S NOT AS BAD AS SOME WHO HAVE 5, 6, 7, OR EIGHT IN THAT SAME TIMEFRAME.

SO AS SOON AS WE GET THOSE, UH, RECORDINGS IN AND THE DATA, WE WILL FORWARD THAT TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THAT WILL GIVE THEM, IT IDENTIFIES THE TIMES WHEN MOST OF THE VIOLATIONS ARE OCCURRING.

SO THAT LETS THEM, UH, PLACE THEIR RESOURCES AT, UH, PRODUCTIVE TIMEFRAMES.

WE'VE ALSO HAD SOME ISSUES, UH, NOT ISSUES, BUT WE'VE ALSO HAD A REQUEST FOR THE FOUR H CENTER.

UH, SOME COMPLAINTS UP THERE ABOUT SPEEDING AND, AND THE, UH, SAFETY FACTOR OF THE KIDS AND SO FORTH THAT ARE UP THERE.

WE PUT OUR, UH, RECORDERS UP THERE AND ACTUALLY THE 25 MILE AN HOUR POSTED SPEED LIMIT, THE 85% TILE WAS ONLY DRIVING 28.

SO TRAFFIC ENGINEERING, UH, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A FIELD VISIT UP THERE AND SEE IF THERE'S SOME OTHER SYSTEMIC MEASURES WE CAN TAKE TO HELP PEOPLE WARN PEOPLE ABOUT THE, THEIR KIDS AND SO FORTH.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA BE ALLOWED OR NOT CONSIDERING THE TYPE OF FACILITY IT IS, WHETHER WE CAN GET IT INTO THE SAME CATEGORY AS A SCHOOL ZONE.

UH, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS YEAR.

UM, AND SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE HEARD, BUT THE CTB GAVE, UM, AN ADDITIONAL 70 MILLION TO THE STATEWIDE, STATEWIDE FOR MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES.

20 MILLION OF DOLLARS OF THAT WAS DEDICATED TO REPAIR AND UPKEEP OF SOUND WALLS AND STORM STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PONDS.

BUT 50 MILLION OF IT WAS TO GO TO OUR MAINTENANCE METRICS AND WE WERE TO ADDRESS FOUR CATEGORIES, PIPE REPLACEMENTS OR CLEANOUTS DITCHING FOR DRAINAGE, UH, UNPAVED SHOULDER GRADING AND BRUSH TRIMMING OF THAT.

THE STANTON DISTRICT GOT, UH, FIVE, A LITTLE OVER $5 MILLION AND THAT'S BEEN DISTRIBUTED AMONGST THE THREE RESIDENCIES.

WHAT

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WITH THIS YEAR, THEY'LL GET AN ADDITIONAL 75,000 TO GO ON TOP OF THAT.

THE ONLY CAVEAT IS THAT WE, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR AND SPEND THE 75,000 THAT MUCH MORE.

SO WE'VE GOT ABOUT 65% MORE DOLLARS.

WE'RE EXPECTED TO PRODUCE ABOUT 65% MORE THIS YEAR.

WE GET IT AS JULY THE FIRST, UH, BARRING ANYTHING UNFORESEEN.

AND WE HAVE THE 12 MONTHS TO MATCH WHAT WE DID THIS YEAR PLUS AN ADDITIONAL 75%, UH, 65% ALSO.

AND, AND I DON'T WANNA TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME, BUT UH, IF I HAVE SOME MORE TIME, WE HAVE RECEIVED OUR 19, OUR 2022 FATALITY REPORTS FOR THE DISTRICT.

AND, AND I'VE GOT SOME STATISTICS HERE TO SHARE WITH THE BOARD.

UM, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH EVERYTHING, BUT THERE WERE 112 FATALITIES IN THE STANTON DISTRICT LAST YEAR.

AND, UH, THAT IS MORE THAN WE HAVE HAD LAST YEAR.

WE HAD 75.

AND WHEN THEY ANALYZE THE CAUSES AND, AND BREAK IT DOWN, WE FIND THAT UH, 50% OF THOSE FATALITIES WERE HAPPENED ON OUR PRIMARY ROADS AND 28% HAPPENED ON OUR SECONDARY ROADS.

AND, AND I WILL BE GLAD TO GIVE THIS TO YOUR, TO, UH, EMILY THERE.

SHE CAN SHARE IT WITH ALL OF YOU SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO TRY TO WRITE ALL THIS STUFF DOWN.

ANOTHER, UH, SOME OF THE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS, UH, ON, UM, WE HAD FOR SPEED FIVE WAS ON INTERSTATE 16 ON PRIMARY AND 16 ON SECONDARY, UH, DUIS OR DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE, BE IT DRUGS OR ALCOHOL, WAS, UH, TWO ON INTERSTATE SEVEN ON PRIMARY AND SIX ON SECONDARY CELL PHONE USE.

AND THIS IS A NEBULOUS NUMBER BECAUSE NOT MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA TELL YOU WHEN THEY'RE INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT, MUCH LESS WHEN SOMEBODY'S KILLED THAT THEY WERE ON A CELL PHONE.

SO WE ONLY HAVE TWO ON THE INTERSTATE NOT SHOWING ANY ON PRIMARY OR SECONDARY.

I'M NOT SURE THAT'S CORRECT.

WHAT IS UH, CONCERNING THOUGH IS THAT UNBELTED EIGHT ON INTERSTATE 18 ON PRIMARY AND 13 ON SECONDARY.

NOW THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THAT IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE UNBELTED, AND THIS IS WHAT I FOUND SURPRISING, WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE 50 YEARS OLD.

OKAY? YOU, YOU, I MEAN, I, AND RIGHT OR WRONG, I'VE TENDED TO THINK THAT THE YOUNG PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, UM, TEND NOT TO WEAR THEIR SEATBELT.

THEY DON'T THINK OF SAFETY.

IT, IT WASN'T THAT WAY.

AND THAT OF OVER THE 50 YEARS OLD, UH, BEAR WITH ME JUST A MINUTE.

THE BREAKDOWN WAS FROM 51 TO 65, 20 3% FROM 66 TO 80 13% AND THEN ANOTHER 9% OVER 81.

SO 16 TO 20 YEAR OLDS WAS ONLY 9%.

SO THOSE ARE JUST A TH FEW OF THE STATISTICS.

UH, I'LL GIVE THIS TO, UH, MS. SRAE.

SHE CAN RUN COPIES FOR YOU.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THE BOARD WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO ADDRESS? MR. CARTER? THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT.

FIRST OFF, UM, AND SO I DID SEE WHERE YOU GUYS DID THE BRUSH CUTTING.

UM, I ACTUALLY LIVE OUT RIGHT? OUR HOLLOW ROAD AND SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT LOOKS GREAT.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORK IS THAT'S BEING DONE ON 5 22 WHERE THEY'RE DOING UTILITIES ON THE WEST SIDE AND IT'S A LONG 5 22, UH, NORTH.

THERE'S A, A WIDE AREA WHERE THEY'RE BASICALLY CLEAR CUTTING.

ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE WORK ZONE THAT'S SET UP THERE NOW, JUST PAST COUNTRY CLUB OR ARE YOU TALKING SOMEWHERE ELSE? CAUSE I'M NOT, IT'S FURTHER UP AND IT'S ON THE, IT'S FURTHER UP.

IT'S ON AND THEY'RE BRUSH CUTTING AND I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CALLS CUZ

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UH, IT'S, I'M GONNA SPECULATE BECAUSE I, WE HAVE 135 PERMITS JUST IN OUR RESIDENCY RIGHT NOW FOR THE PLACEMENT OF FIBER.

THAT'S, IT MAY VERY WELL BE OKAY.

SO I'M SPECULATING ON THAT BECAUSE I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE THAT WORK GOING ON UP THERE.

SO I, I CAN FIND OUT FOR SURE, BUT I'M PRETTY GOOD GUESS BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING HAMMERED.

UH, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE HAD TO SHUT A LOT OF THEM DOWN UNTIL THEY CLEANED UP SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HAD HAD DONE, BUT THEY SEEM TO BE PRETTY MUCH BACK ON TRACK NOW.

WELL, WITH ALL THE BROADBAND INITIATIVES, THAT WOULD MAKE VERY GOOD SENSE.

MR. CARTER, THE, UH, I JUST WANTED TO CHECK WITH YOU ON THE, ON, ON THE HIGH KNOB.

UM, THE, UM, UM, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE STATUS OF THE, UH, IT'S THE, AND I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME OF IT RIGHT NOW, BUT YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'RE, DECIDE WHERE THEY'RE TAKING A LOOK AT THE PRIORITIES FOR THE, UH, FOR, FOR THE ROADS MM-HMM.

, UH, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE STATUS OF THAT IS AND IF THAT HAS CHANGED? NO, THE STATUS HAS NOT CHANGED.

THE CTB WILL VOTE ON THAT FINALLY IN JUNE.

RIGHT NOW THAT REMAINS THE SAME.

AND, AND THEN I I, I ALSO WANTED TO FIND OUT THE, UM, UH, IF AND WHEN THEY GET THE FUNDING FOR THAT, FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THE OKAY.

IF, IF IT'S APPROVED UNDER THIS SECTION OF SMART SCALE.

THE FUNDING, UH, PROBABLY WOULD NOT SEE THE DESIGN AND ACTUAL FUNDING HIT FOR, FOR SOMEWHERE AROUND FIVE OR SIX YEARS.

I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS IF YOU DON'T MIND.

UM, BROWNTOWN ROAD, I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WERE, UM, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS.

SIGNAGE AND THE, UH, REFLECTOR BARS AND THING, THE REFLECTOR TABS IN, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.

WE, UM, I'M, I'M, THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.

UH, I MEANT TO HAVE THAT, I MEANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT OUR PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE PRICES OF THAT NOW.

WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING BID, UH, NOT BIDS, BUT ESTIMATES IN MM-HMM.

FOR HOW MUCH THAT IS.

MY QUESTION IS, BECAUSE WHEN WE HAD TALKED ABOUT PUTTING THEM FROM ROCKY LANE ONE INTO TOWN, YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T WANNA DO THOSE UNTIL THE ROAD GOT RESURFACE.

WHICH MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

YOU JUST TEAR 'EM RIGHT BACK UP.

UM, IS THAT PORTION OF, ARE YOU GONNA PUT 'EM IN THE PORTIONS WHERE THE NEW PAVEMENT HAS BEEN ON BROWNTOWN ROAD AND THEN WAIT FOR THE OTHER SECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE REPAVED BECAUSE WE, WHAT THE WAY THAT WILL WORK IS WE WILL PUT THEM DEPENDING ON THE COST AND, AND THEY'RE NOT PARTICULARLY CHEAP, WE WILL TRY TO PUT THEM IN THOSE, THE WORST CURVES FIRST.

UH, AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE DO THE WHOLE ROAD AND, AND WE HAVE REPAVED, SOME OF BROWNTOWN MM-HMM.

OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD WANT TO DO THAT PORTION WHETHER WE CONTINUE ON BEFORE, WE WILL DEPEND ON WHAT OUR SCHEDULE IS FOR RESURFACING THE REST OF OUR OKAY.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS, IF IT WAS IN A YEAR OR TWO.

YEAH, WE PROBABLY WAIT IF WE'RE LOOKING SIX, SEVEN YEARS OUT THE ROAD, I THINK WE'D GO AHEAD AND PUT 'EM IN.

UM, MY OTHER QUESTION, THE SIX 19 INTERSECTION, I KNOW WE WERE GONNA RE STRIKE THAT.

WHEN THE PAVING, AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IS IT THIS SUMMER THAT THE RE HAVENING OF THREE 40 IS SUPPOSED TO START? IT WAS SUPPOSED TO START IN TWO YEARS FROM WHEN WE TALKED, SO I THINK THAT'S 2025.

I WAS THINKING SAYS 24 MAYBE 2025.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THE 2024 SEASON, I KNOW THEY RUN ODD, SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING IF THAT STARTS SEASON.

LET ME VERIFY THAT.

BUT WHENEVER THAT'S DONE, YES.

WE'LL REPAINT THAT.

STRIKE THAT.

AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION OUT AT THE WALMART WITH THE NOSE THINGS, I NOTICED WHEN YOU PUT THAT ON, YOU PUT IT, YOU ON THE PART WHERE YOU TURN TO GO INTO THE WALMART, ARE YOU PLANNING ON PUTTING IT ON THE ONE WHERE YOU COME OUT AND YOU HEAD BACK TOWARDS FRONT ROYAL THAT THAT NOSES THAT PROVIDES THE HIGHWAY? NO, THE, THE, THE, THE ONE WE PUT IT ON WAS IF YOU COME OUT COUNTRY CLUB AND MAKE A LEFT TO GO TO 66.

THAT CENTER.

THAT'S THE ONE WE PUT IT ON.

IT DIDN'T LAST BUT ONE SNOW.

HE PUT IT? BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA DO.

AND, AND IT, IT, IT, HE EASY JUST WASN'T SUFFICIENT TO HOLD IT.

SO THAT'S THE ONE WE'RE GOING TO REDO.

NOW MR. MABE TELLS ME HE HAS NOTICED ONE ON THE OTHER NOSE.

WELL I WAS GONNA SAY THAT'S THE ONE THAT I SEE MORE PEOPLE HIT AND MAYBE IT'S CUZ THAT'S THE WAY I'M GOING, BUT I AND I, AFTER YOU SAID YOU PUT IT ON AND I, I KEPT LOOKING FOR IT AND I THOUGHT, WELL WHERE DID

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AND IT'S, I MEAN, YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AND TELL PEOPLE RIGHT UP ON THAT THING ALL THE TIME.

WE, WE PUT IT ON THERE AND IT WAS GONE RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST SNOW.

I HAVEN'T CLAIMED THAT HE, THAT THEY DID THE WRONG ONE.

WELL, AND I YOU DIDN'T .

WELL SO YOU'RE GONNA, ARE YOU GONNA PUT 'EM ON BOTH THE, THE ONE GOING SOUTH AND THE ONE GOING NORTH OR JUST NORTH? WELL, THE ONE THAT WE HAD HAD PLANNED ON, WE HAD, WE, WE HADN'T HAD COMPLAINTS AND THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD ABOUT THE ONE GOING SOUTH.

WE WERE GONNA PUT 'EM ON THE ONE, I'M SORRY, THE ONE GOING NORTH.

WE WERE GONNA PUT 'EM ON THE ONE WHEN YOU COME OUT OF COUNTRY CLUB AND MAKE A LEFT, THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE SEE ALL THE TAR TRACKS OVER.

RIGHT? YEP.

THAT'S THE ONE I SEE TOO.

THEY'LL BE COLLAPSIBLE DELINEATORS.

SO, AND THAT'S THE ONE, THAT'S THE ONE WE HAD PUT IT HAD PUT THE ORIGINAL ONE ON ONE DIDN'T LAST.

SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS TO PAINT THAT WHILE THE PAINT'S WET.

WE'RE GONNA ADD, REFLECT WHAT WE CALL REFLECTIVE PEARLS AND THEN WE'RE GONNA PUT DELINEATORS UP THAT STICK UP.

OH, GOOD.

I'M NOT GONNA SAY I, I DON'T THINK I'VE HIT IT, BUT I THINK I'VE COME CLOSE TO IT AND I YEAH, I'D RATHER RIDE THE CURB THEN HIT YOUR, UH, THOSE POSED WHEN IT'S RAINING AT NIGHT, IT, IT MAKES IT REALLY DIFFICULT TO, TO SEE AS WELL, OR AT LEAST FOR ME IT DOES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE A COUPLE.

YES MA'AM.

SO YOU HAVE HERE BOARD ISSUES, UH, SI THE SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN WHERE YOU NEED TO SCHEDULE A WORK SESSION WITH US SOMETIME THIS MONTH? YES.

ARE YOU READY TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WITH, WITH US? I, I NO I PUT THAT IN THERE TO KEEP IT AT FOREFRONT.

WE'RE EXPECTING THE DOLLAR FIGURES TO COME TO US AT ANY DAY.

AS SOON AS THAT COMES IN, I'LL SEND OUT AND ASK WHEN YOUR NEXT SCHEDULED WORK SESSION IS.

YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN ATTEND AND HAVE SOMETHING ON YOUR, YOUR SCHEDULE TO, I I DON'T ANTICIPATE THIS ONE BEING A LONG DISCUSSION.

UH, YOUR STAFF DID A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH THE RANKINGS AND I I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH THE DOLLAR FIGURES.

UH, LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE, THE LAST TWO THEY WANTED US TO BUNCH UP THE LAST TWO YEARS BECAUSE THE FUNDING FOR IT IS NEVER GUARANTEED.

IT'S ALWAYS SPECULATIVE BASED ON TODAY'S CURRENT REVENUES.

SO WE DID THAT AND IT CREATES SOME PROBLEMS NOT ONLY HERE BUT SOME OTHER PLACES THIS YEAR WE'RE GONNA CARRY IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

SO I JUST WANNA BE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE 'EM IN THE ORDER THAT Y'ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH.

MOVE ALONG STEADILY VERY PRODUCTIVELY AND, UM, VERY PROUD OF WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THERE.

AND AND THE LAST QUESTION, DO WE OWE YOU ANYTHING YOU NEED? ANY, UH, I DON'T KNOW.

I'M TAKING UP DONATIONS.

, I KNEW THAT WAS COMING.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, THAT WE ARE, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED TO HELP.

NO, NO, I, YOUR STAFF'S BEEN VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD AT, AT, AT THAT, SO, OKAY.

I'M GOOD.

PERFECT.

SO WE'RE ALL, ALL GOOD.

OKAY, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

UM, OUR REPORTS, MR. BUTLER, MADAM CHAIR, AT THIS TIME I HAVE NOTHING SIGNIFICANT TO REPORT.

OKAY, MS. KOHLERS? UM, I, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA CONGRATULATE ALL THE PLAYERS OF THE AND TEAM MEMBERS OF SCOTLAND HIGH SCHOOL.

UM, THEY'VE HAD AN EXCEPTIONAL YEAR IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UH, ATHLETIC ACTIVITIES, BUT THEY UM, THEY LOST MY HAIR FROM THE SEMI-FINALS LAST NIGHT IN BASKETBALL AND SO THERE'S NO SHAME IN THAT.

THAT WAS, UM, THEY PLAYED A TOUGH GAME FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, SO I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THEM.

THE WRESTLING GROUP, THEY DID WELL IN STATES.

UM, I'M NOT QUITE SURE.

THERE WAS A, A YOUNG LADY THAT, UM, WON THE BEST TIME, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT WAS IN INDOOR TYPE OF RUNNING.

UM, AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT.

SO, UM, INDOOR CROSS COUNTRY OR WHAT TRACK INDOOR TRACK.

AND, UM, SO I WANNA CONGRATULATE THAT YOUNG LADY.

THE FORENSICS DID WELL, UH, FFA DID WELL WHEN THEY WENT DOWN TO BLACKSBURG, SO, UM, AND I HAVEN'T HEARD IF WARREN COUNTY HAD A LOT OF THINGS, BUT I JUST HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT THOSE.

SO JUST WANNA CONGRATULATE ALL THE, UM, THE YOUNGSTERS AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A BUNCH OF COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND SO FORTH.

I DID JUST WANNA TOUCH ON ONE, THE TOWN COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE WE MET LAST WEDNESDAY.

AND, UH, WE CONTINUE TO

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AND THE LAST THING, I JUST WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THE PASSING OF, UM, FORMER POLICE CHIEF RICHARD FURR, A GOOD CHRISTIAN MAN.

UM, SOMEONE I'M PROUD TO CALL A FRIEND AND I WANNA SEND LOVE TO HIS WIFE, RUTH DAUGHTER AND SON.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU MS. OATS.

YEP.

I, UM, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT A, A LITTLE, UH, FIELD TRIP I WENT ON AND I WENT TO, I WAS ASKED BY A LOCAL BUSINESS CALLED THE BLUE RIDGE MEATS TO COME IN AND TO WALK THROUGH THEIR PROCESSING PLANT.

FOOD SECURITY IS REALLY IMPORTANT, BUT PARTICULARLY AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH COVID AND SAW A LOT OF SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, UM, WITH FOOD.

AND SO LOCAL PROCESSORS ARE VERY IMPORTANT BY LOCAL, IF YOU CAN.

WELL, THESE FOLKS DO IT AND IT'S ARTISTIC THE WAY THEY DO IT.

UM, I WAS AMAZED AT THE, THE, UH, CARE THAT THEY TAKE IN PRODUCING QUALITY PRODUCTS FOR OTHER PEOPLE.

SO IF YOU'RE OUT IN ONE OF THE OTHER STORES AROUND THAT SELL IN RETAIL, UH, LIKE SOME OF THE BUTCHER SHOPS AND PLACES, YOU MAY FIND BLUE RIDGE MEATS ON THE LABEL.

THEY DO PRIVATE LABEL AND THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN LABEL.

UM, BUT IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE, UH, HOW AGRICULTURE IMPACTS THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.

SO, UM, THAT WAS FUN.

AND THEN, UH, THE DRUG COURT ADVISORY COMMITTEE MET, UH, ON THE SAME NIGHT AS A BUDGET MEETING.

SO I GOT TO STICK MY HEAD IN, BUT THIS IS PROGRESSING.

SO WE ARE, UH, THE DRUG REHABILITATION COURT IS IN FULL PROGRESS.

SHOULD HAVE A DOCKET, I'M HOPING BY THE, BY FALL IS THE GOAL.

IS THAT CORRECT, DR.

DIAMOND? WE'RE STILL HOPING JULY, MA'AM.

DEFINITELY FALL.

SO I'LL PUSH FALL AND IF WE GET IT IN JULY, THEN WE CAN ALL BE HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

UM, IT IS A, UH, WONDERFUL, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO BRING RESOURCES TO WARREN COUNTY AND FRONT ROYAL IT WITH ADDICTION.

THERE ARE CURRENTLY VERY FEW, UH, RESOURCES IN COUNSELING OPPORTUNITIES AND PROFESSIONALS HERE.

AND HAVING A COMMITMENT TO A DRUG COURT, UH, ACTUALLY INCENTIVIZES THOSE FOLKS TO COME TO OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, I DID ATTEND THE TRANSPORTATION SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING, UM, WITH MRS. COLORS ON MARCH 1ST, AND IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST PRODUCTIVE MEETINGS THAT I'VE BEEN IN SINCE I'VE BEEN, UM, IN THE SEAT.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO, FROM THE TOWN, WE HAVE PLANNING COMMISSION.

UM, WE HAD SOME FOLKS, UM, WHO WERE, UH, CONCERNED WITH DEVELOPMENT AND A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE SITTING AROUND A TABLE WHO WERE TRYING TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO THE TRANSPORTATION PROBLEMS, PARTICULARLY, UM, IN THE SHENDAL SHORES AREA.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THE PROGRESS WITH, UM, ON THAT FRONT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO MR. CARTER FOR COMING TO A NIGHT MEETING.

I DO KNOW THAT, UM, THERE WAS A LOCAL NEWS ARTICLE WITH THE, UH, REPORTER UNNAMED WHO SAID, WELL, MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T HAVE CHANGED THE DAY MEETING TO A NIGHT MEETING, AND WE COULD EXPECT THESE PEOPLE TO SHOW UP.

WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE REPORTER THAT GOVERNMENT IS FOR THE PEOPLE, NOT FOR THE AGENCIES THAT SUPPORT THE PEOPLE.

SO ANYWAY, JUST SAYING THAT OUT LOUD SO HE CAN HEAR IT.

AND THEN FINALLY, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS TOURISM.

SO LAST MONDAY NIGHT, UM, , OUR TOWN COUNCIL, UH, VOTED TO TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT, THE JOINT TOURISM AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY, UM, CALL ME POLLYANNA, BUT I STILL HAVE HOPE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER.

AND I'VE RECEIVED A FEW CALLS FROM COUNCIL THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD IN SOME WAY, SOME SHAPE, SOME FORM TO, UH, EXPLORE AN JOINT OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, PROVIDE A DIRECTION TO THE NUMBER ONE INDUSTRY THAT SERVICES FRONT ROYAL WARREN COUNTY, WHICH IS THE TOURISM INDUSTRY.

UM, SO, UH, MORE TO COME ON THAT, BUT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO INFORM EVERYBODY OF THE CURRENT SITUATION.

EVERYBODY HERE WAS PART OF THAT, AND NOBODY SAID ANYTHING ABOUT IT, , BUT BUDGET IS A HUGE, HUGE THING THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S GONNA CONTINUE ON FOR SEVERAL WEEKS.

THAT'S ALL.

OKAY, MR. BABE.

I DON'T HAVE A LOT THAT THIS EVENING, BUT, UM, BACK ON THE 28TH, I DID, UH, ENJOY VISITING WITH THE E D A TO DISCUSS COUNTY DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S ALWAYS, THAT'S ALWAYS EXCITING FOR ME BECAUSE I JUST LOVE, LOVE HEARING WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH, UH, THE E D A.

UM, I'VE ALSO LOOKED AT SOME OF THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS ON, BECAUSE I WASN'T ABLE TO GO VISIT, BUT I HAVE, HAVE SEEN UP SOME OF IT ONLINE, AND I DO, I HAVE BEEN DOING IT THAT AS MUCH AS I COULD.

UM, I ALSO, ON THE SECOND OF THIS MONTH, WE HAD A DEPARTMENT BUDGET PRESENTATION BY THE COUNTY.

NOW

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BUT, UH, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF GOOD THINGS AND WE'RE DOING THE BEST THAT WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA GET PAST IT AND THROUGH IT.

UM, ALSO LAST NIGHT, UH, I WAS PART OF AN OPEN DISCUSSION WITH, UM, UH, SENATOR OUR FARMS, UM, MRS. COOK.

YOU WERE THERE WITH US LAST NIGHT.

UH, IT WAS ABOUT THE SANITARY DISTRICT AND, AND HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY BE MOVING FORWARD INSTEAD OF HAVING SOME CONFLICTS BETWEEN US.

UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE AND INFORMATIVE ON BOTH SIDES, NOT JUST THE ONE, UH, IT WAS FRAUGHT WITH QUESTIONS AT THE TABLE AND OBJECTIONS, AND BY GOSH, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH SOME OF 'EM.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT I COULD ACTUALLY SAY.

UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE HAD, OR I HAVE HAD A TREMENDOUS UPTICK IN EMAILS ABOUT REZONINGS AND ABOUT, UM, AND ABOUT P POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.

AND I HAVE SPENT MORE TIME THIS WEEK SINCE THAN SINCE I'VE STARTED.

AND I'M GONNA BE TRUTHFUL.

UH, I MAY NOT LIKE IT, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE COMMUNICATING THEIR TALKING GOOD, BAD OR INDIFFERENT, THEIR TALKING.

AND I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING.

UM, AND ON TOP OF VISITING WITH SEVERAL RESIDENTS, UH, AND TALKING WITH CONSTITUENTS FACE-TO-FACE, UM, THAT'S MY REPORT.

HELLO, FRED PEARSON, PEARSON'S APPRAISAL.

UM, MY REPORT, THE FIRST BULLET WAS WE FINISHED ABOUT, UH, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR FISCAL YEAR 24.

UH, WE'VE KIND OF FINISHED REVIEWING ABOUT 10 DEPARTMENTS THAT INCLUDED, WE'VE AT THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET, THE TREASURER, E D A ELECTIONS AMONG A LOT MORE.

I DIDN'T WANNA HAVE TO READ ALL OF THEM.

SO WE'RE STILL IN THE, UH, IN THE PROCESS IN FINISHING THAT UP.

UM, THE LAST ITEM, WELL, NOT THE LAST, UH, SECOND TO THE LAST IS THOUGH I ATTENDED THE AIRPORT COMMISSION MEETING.

UM, THINGS ARE MOVING ALONG REALLY WELL.

UM, THINGS ARE BEING COMMUNICATED AND, UM, I THINK WE'RE ON A GOOD PATH.

AND THE LAST THING I DID WANNA BRING UP IS TO LET YOU, UH, LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT, UM, THAT DELINQUENT PROPERTY TAXES IS ON MY RADAR.

SO, UH, WE'LL JUST KEEP A, KEEP AN EYE ON THAT AND SEE HOW WE'RE, HOW WE MOVE ALONG.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

UM, UH, DR.

DALEY, THANK YOU, MA'AM.

SINCE, UH, MADAME CHAIR AND MR. MABE HAD SUCH A GOOD TIME LAST WEEK, WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER BUDGET SESSION AT FIVE O'CLOCK THIS THURSDAY, AND ALL FIVE OF YOU ARE WELCOME.

YES, SIR.

YOU'RE WELCOME THERE.

I DO WANT TO REPORT ON OUR APPEALS OF THE ASSESSMENTS.

UH, THOSE APPEALS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED NOW, AND THERE WERE 1,110 APPEALS, AND THE ASSESSOR'S STAFF MET WITH EACH OF THEM.

AND 881 OF THOSE MEETINGS RESULT IN A, AN ASSESSMENT BEING REDUCED.

IT MAY HAVE BEEN $1, IT MAY HAVE BEEN $10, IT MAY HAVE BEEN $10,000, BUT THEY WERE EACH REDUCED.

AND THAT RESULTS IN 80% OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO CAME, TOOK THE TIME TO COME IN, WE'LL SEE A REDUCTION, AND THEY WILL BE GETTING LETTERS IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

UH, THEY HAVE, THOSE LETTERS HAVE NOT GONE OUT YET.

WE'RE FINISHING THAT UP THIS WEEK, AND THEN THE LETTERS WILL GO OUT.

UH, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW ON A, A PROPERTY IS ASSESSED.

SO I'VE ASKED MR. PEARSON IF HE WOULD COME UP FROM PEARSON APPRAISAL FOR A MOMENT AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT HOW THEY LOOK AT A HOUSE, HOW THEY GO ABOUT ASSESSING A HOUSE.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, I'M THE ONE TO SET THE VALUES FOR THE COUNTY.

EXCUSE ME.

I REVIEWED ALL 2022 SALES.

UH, WE LOOKED AT 'EM, UH, ABOUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOMES, DETACHED HOMES, ATTACHED HOMES, AND DOUBLE WIDES.

UH, WE DID

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A RATIO ON THOSE.

UM, I THINK, UH, YOU WERE AT AROUND, UH, 60, LOW SIXTIES PERCENTAGE WISE, IT SHOWED AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 41 40 2% INCREASE TO GET CLOSE TO A MARKET VALUE.

UM, I RAISED THE RATES IN THE SYSTEM AND THE APPRAISAL SOFTWARE PACKAGE.

IT TOOK SEVERAL ATTEMPTS, BUT WE DID THAT.

MOST PEOPLE GOT A FAIRLY CONSISTENT INCREASE, UM, IN THEIR ASSESSED VALUES.

AND THIS IS FOR RESIDENTIAL.

UH, KIND OF THE AVERAGE AMOUNT OF INCREASES, PROBABLY ABOUT 41%.

UM, INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES PROBABLY GOT A LITTLE LARGER INCREASE.

I'D SAY 50 TO 60%.

AND YOUR BETTER QUALITY.

UM, COMMERCIAL AND INDU, UH, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ALSO GOT A PRETTY GOOD INCREASE TOO.

BUT THAT'S KIND OF AN OVERALL, UH, THE HEARINGS WENT EXTREMELY WELL.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAD TO WAIT.

AND AS, AS FOR A LONG TIME, UM, WE GOT 'EM IN, WE LISTENED, WE TOOK A LOT OF WALK-INS.

WE TURNED NOBODY AWAY.

UM, I THINK THINGS WENT EXCEPTIONALLY WELL.

UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE COOPERATION I GOT FROM THE DIFFERENT COUNTY OFFICES HERE.

AND, UM, WE'VE COMPLETED IT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. PEARSON? CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME THE RATIO BETWEEN INDUSTRIAL AND, UM, AND THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL HOMES AND THE WAY THAT THEY IMPACT EACH OTHER? WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE MANY LARGE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES.

YOU'VE GOT ABOUT EIGHT LARGE INDUSTRIALS HERE.

BUT, UM, YOUR INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES, UH, WHEN I LOOKED AT SALES IN THE AREA, AND I'M LOOKING AT SHANDOR VALLEY MOSTLY FOR SALES, UH, IT SHOWED A PRETTY LARGE INCREASE IN INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES.

ALSO LOOKED AT IT FROM THE, UM, UH, COST APPROACH TO, UH, I'D USE THAT.

AND, UH, YES, MOST OF YOUR INDUSTRIALS WENT AT 50 TO 60%.

THEY GOT THE LARGEST INCREASE IN THE COUNTY.

SO, SO MR. PEARSON, THE, UH, UH, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE, UH, YOUR, YOUR ASSESSMENTS ARE DRIVEN MAINLY BY THE, THE, THE MARKET THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.

THE MARKET SALES.

AND, UH, I KNOW THAT I'VE HAD, UH, SOME OF MY CONSTITUENTS COME UP AND SAY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WERE KIND OF QUESTIONING AS TO THE, THE ASSESSMENTS.

AND SO IF THEY, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, IF THEY FEEL THAT THE ASSESSMENTS ARE INCORRECT, THAT THEY DO HAVE A RECOURSE.

THEY HAVE TWO RECOURSES.

ONE IS THEY CAN COME AND TALK TO YOU.

THE OTHER ONE IS THEY CAN ACTUALLY GO AND GET A, UH, A REALTOR TO COME IN AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE, AT THE PROPERTY AND THEN PRESENT THAT TO YOU.

AM I, AM I CORRECT ON THAT? ANY, ANY INFORMATION THAT WILL HELP? I'VE FINISHED MY HEARINGS.

BUT HELP THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION BETTER DETERMINE THAT VALUE WOULD BE GOOD.

A MILITARY IS GOOD.

UM, THEY CAN DO THAT RESEARCH ON THEIR OWN TOO.

ANYTHING ABOUT THE PROPERTY, WE DO NOT MAKE INTERIOR INSPECTIONS OF HOMES.

THAT COULD BE THINGS ABOUT THE INTERIOR.

WE DON'T KNOW.

UH, GENTLEMAN IN, EARLIER TONIGHT, I TALKED WITH HIM AND I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT HIS HOUSE.

HE SAYS, WE'VE MADE NO IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR HOUSE.

WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO MAKE ANY IMPROVEMENTS.

THE BATHROOMS ARE THE SAME AS WHEN THE HOUSE WAS BUILT.

UM, AND HIS HOUSE IS PROBABLY 40, 50 YEARS OLD.

YOU EXPECT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA DO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF REMODELING TO A HOUSE.

BUT HE SAID IT JUST TOOK ALL HIS MONEY JUST TO MAKE ENDS MEET.

AND I DID REDUCE HIS PROPERTY SOME, BUT THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS, ANYTHING THAT HELP, UH, THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION AND VOTER DETERMINE THEIR VALUE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

WELL, THANK YOU SIR.

, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HAVE A NICE EVENING.

APPRECIATE, THANK YOU.

CAN I ASK DR.

DALEY? OH, SURE.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO DR.

DALEY THE YES, MA'AM.

THE APPEALS PROCESS IS OVER WITH MR. PEARSON.

AND SPEAK TO THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.

HOWEVER, THEY CAN STILL APPEAL TO THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.

YES, MA'AM.

BECAUSE WHAT I, I DID THE NUMBERS THAT YOU GAVE US EARLIER, WHICH WAS 881 HOMES AND APPROXIMATELY 30 MILLION IN REDUCTIONS.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.

SO THAT'S ABOUT $35,000 IN VALUE PER HOUSE.

$35,187 PER HOME THAT IT WAS REDUCED IN ON AN AVERAGE YES.

UM, WITH THOSE 881 HOMES.

SO IF SOMEBODY STILL HAS NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY OR FELT COMPELLED, THEY CAN COME IN ABSOLUTELY.

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WHEN THE BOARD STARTS MEETING IN APRIL, WE'RE GONNA ENCOURAGE EVERYONE.

WE'LL PUT OUT MORE, UH, VIDEO TYPE THINGS THAT MR. JONES WILL WORK ON TO TRY AND GET THAT MESSAGE OUT.

BUT YES, YOU CAN DEFINITELY TELL PEOPLE TO LOOK FOR THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.

AND REMIND THE BOARD THAT WE NEED TO APPOINT AN ADDITIONAL MEMBER TO THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION ON THE 21ST.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DR.

DALEY? AND ARE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? I'VE SAID ENOUGH TONIGHT.

YOU SAID ENOUGH.

OKAY, MR. HAM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I HAVE NO REPORT.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, .

[G. Approval of Minutes - Regular Meeting of February 21, 2023]

UM, DATED FEBRUARY 21ST, 2020, 2023.

WE'RE MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF OUR MEETING MINUTES.

ARE THERE ANY, UH, CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? UM, THE ONLY ONE I SAW, AND IT'S TRIVIAL, BUT TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS MRS. OATS THAT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, UM, GETTING MR. CARTER TO COME AT NIGHT OR VIRTUAL, HE COULD BE A VIRTUAL.

UM, I AGREED WITH HER, BUT I THINK IT WAS HERS.

AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S TRIVIAL.

SO, BUT I DID WANNA SAY THAT.

SO THAT WAS MISSING IN THE MID? NO, IT'S, IT'S, I WAS QUOTED AS SAYING IT AND I THINK IT WAS MRS. OS.

SO ARE WE GOING TO ACCEPT IT OR WOULD YOU LIKE US TO MAKE THAT THAT CHANGE? THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, THAT'S UP TO THE, BUT THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I SAW THAT, SO, OKAY.

NOW THIS IS NEW FOR ME.

SO I WANNA MAKE SURE OUR MEETING MINUTES ARE ACCURATE.

SO, UM, IF WE MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT, WE MAKE A, TO AMEND IT SAYS, UM, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE HEARD THAT YET, BUT IF MRS. COLORS OR SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO MOVE TO AMEND THE MINUTES TO SO REFLECT THAT, I THINK SHE IS RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT MY MEMORY WAS AS WELL.

SO WE REMOVED ITEM FOUR, WHICH IS CITIZEN APPOINTMENTS TO THE FRONT ROYAL WARREN COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

NOW I THINK IT JUST, IT, IT SAYS, MRS. COLORS ASKED DR.

DALEY TO REACH OUT AND ASK IF THEY COULD RECONSIDER ATTENDING IN PERSON OR IF THEY COULD ATTEND VIRTUALLY THROUGH MICROSOFT TEAMS. AND I BELIEVE MRS. OATS, YOU WERE THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY SAID THAT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT WITH THIS AMENDMENT? UH, YES.

[H. Consent Agenda]

ON TO, UM, NEW BUSINESS.

UH, WE UP TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ITEMS THEY'D LIKE TO REMOVE FOR DISCUSSION? MADAME CHAIR, WE WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU REMOVE ITEM FOUR IN ORDER TO INSERT THE NAMES TO THE DIFFERENT POSITIONS.

VERY GOOD.

ANYTHING ELSE WE'D LIKE TO REMOVE FOR DISCUSSION? VERY GOOD.

SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA? A CONSENT AGENDA AS AS AMENDED.

SO MOVED.

THE CHAIRS ARE MOVED.

WE'RE ON TOP OF IT.

WHAT? I CAN'T KEEP UP.

[H.4. Citizen Appointments to the Front Royal/Warren County Economic Development Authority Board of Directors - Ed Daley, County Administrator]

MR. DALEY, YOU, UH, HAVE A COPY OF YOU'VE ALL VOTED AND YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE MOTION SHEET.

CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU.

IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO INTRODUCE IT.

VERY WELL.

COULD I INTRODUCE IT? I THINK ANYONE CAN OR I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST A MOTION I WOULDN'T DO IT.

I CAN READ IT.

I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPOINT THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS TO THE FRONT ROW, WARREN COUNTY ECONOMIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, HAYDEN ASHWORTH TO FILL AN UNEXPIRED TERM ENDING FEBRUARY 28TH, 2025.

JD WALTER TO FILL AN UNEXPIRED TERM ENDING FEBRUARY 28TH, 2026 ROB MCDOUGLE TO A FOUR YEAR TERM ENDING FEBRUARY 28TH, 2027.

AND BRUCE TOWNSON TO A FOUR YEAR TERM ENDING FEBRUARY 28TH, 2027.

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UM,

[I. Award Recommendation for Old Oak IV Precast Box Culverts - Alisa Scott, Finance Director, Mike Berry, Public Works Director]

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM J, WHICH IS AWARD RECOMMENDATION FOR ALL OAK FOR PRECAST BOX CULVERTS.

MS. SCOTT.

OH, OR TWO RIGHT BACK.

OH, OKAY.

SO MADAME CHAIR, WHILE WE'RE WAITING, UH, THERE, I WANNA REMIND THE BOARD THAT THE BOARD HAS LOOKED AT OLD OAK FOUR AND GONE THIS WAY AND THEN THAT WAY AND THOUGHT ABOUT IT SEVERAL DIFFERENT TIMES.

UM, THIS IS LIKE YOUR LAST REAL CHANCE TO CHANGE YOUR MIND IF YOU ARE SO INCLINED BECAUSE ONCE WE INVEST THIS, THEN YOU'RE REALLY INCREASING WHAT THE LOSS WOULD BE.

IF YOU TURN AROUND IT'S LIKE CROSS CROSSING THE ROCKIES AND THEN DECIDING YOU WANT TO GO BACK EAST, THAT REALLY DOESN'T WORK WELL.

SO THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO FISHER.

CUT BAIT.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

THE FINANCE AND PURCHASING DEPARTMENT RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE A SOLICITATION FOR PRECAST BOX CULVERTS FOR OLD OAK FOUR.

THE PROCUREMENT METHOD USED WAS COMPETITIVE SEALED BIDDING.

AN INVITATION FOR BIDS WAS ISSUED IN ACCORDANCE WITH A VIRGINIA PUBLIC PROCUREMENT ACT AND ONE BID WAS RECEIVED AFTER REVIEWING THE BID FROM EASTERN VAULT COMPANY, INCORPORATED FOR $695,583.

THE FUNDING INSTRUCTOR HAS DETERMINED THAT THE BID IS THE, UH, BOTH THE LOWEST AND RESPONSIVE AND EASTERN VOLT IS A RESPONSIBLE BIDDER ENCLOSES A MEMORANDUM DATED NOVEMBER 17TH, 2022, IN WHICH THEOR OF SUPERVISORS NOTED ITS SUPPORT OF THE CONTINUATION OF FUNDING FOR OLD OAK, UH, I'M SORRY, OLD OAK LANE.

PHASE FOUR CONSTRUCTION STAFF RECOMMENDS THE BOARD APPROVE THE AWARD TO EASTERN VAULT FOR THE PRECAST BOX CULVERTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE I FB SPECIFICATIONS.

UPON RECEIPT OF A PURCHASE ORDER, EASTERN VAULT WILL DELIVER THE PRECAST BOX CULVERTS WITHIN SIX MONTHS.

AND FUNDING FOR THIS PURCHASE IS AVAILABLE IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND FOR OLD OAK FOUR LINE ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. SCOTT? ANY DISCUSSION? UM, I HAVE QUESTION.

I KNOW AS DR.

DALEY SAID, THIS WENT BACK AND FORTH WHETHER TO DO THE BOX CULVERTS, WHETHER TO JUST TAR AND SHIP THAT AREA AND HOPE AND PRAY IT DOESN'T WASH OUT .

UM, WAS THIS, AND I KNOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH VDOT AND UM, IS THIS V OTS BEST RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS AREA? IS THAT WHY WE'RE GOING THIS DIRECTION? WE'RE GOING THIS DIRECTION MA'AM BECAUSE WE APPLIED FOR A REVENUE SHARING RURAL ADDITION PROJECT AND IN 2017 THE BOARD DID A RESOLUTION AND THEN THIS BOARD, UM, AS MS. SCOTT SAID, SAID THAT WE WISHED TO GO FORTH WITH THIS PROJECT.

UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY JUST UNDER OUR ESTIMATE, UM, AND BACK IN OCTOBER WE GAVE YOU AN ESTIMATE OF $710,000.

BUT AS DR.

DALEY SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GO TIME.

SO YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE'RE EITHER GONNA MOVE FORWARD OR IF YOU DON'T WANT TO, NOW'S THE TIME.

UM, CUZ THIS IS A BIG CHUNK OF CHANGE.

BUT, SO WE HAVE HAD TO WORK WITH VDOT THROUGH THE PROCESS, THROUGH THE ENGINEERING, UM, AND WE'VE SPENT A WHOLE LOT OF TIME ON ENGINEERING.

UM, WE JUST HAD A MEETING, UM, ON THE NEXT SECTION ACTUALLY.

WHAT LAST WEEK? LAST WEEK.

JUST A REVIEW ON SITE WITH VDOT.

AND I MIGHT ADD TO THAT MA'AM, THAT, UM, THE CHA THE PROJECT CHANGED WITH THESE BULK BOX CULVERT AS THE REQUIREMENT FROM VDOT WITH SOME INPUT FROM THE CORE OF ENGINEERS.

THAT'S, I WANTED, I WANNA CLARIFY.

THAT'S WHERE THEY CHANGED THE RULES ON US.

THAT THAT WAS WHAT I WANTED TO, TO CLARIFY THAT THIS ISN'T JUST AN ARBITRARY THING.

THIS HAS BEEN WHAT THE EXPERTS ARE RECOMMENDING TO GET THIS DONE AND DONE, RIGHT? YEP.

MUCH MR. BERRY, IS IT ABOUT 80? THE NO, THE, I I WAS SAYING FROM THE ESTIMATE I GAVE YOU IN OCTOBER, IT'S ABOUT $10,000.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DISCUSSIONS? NO.

SO I WANNA GO THROUGH JUST THE LIST AND JUST SO EVERYBODY, CUZ I FORGET WHAT WE FUNDED AND WHAT WE HAVEN'T FUNDED BECAUSE I'M NOT DOING THIS EVERY DAY.

SO, UM, OLD OAK LANE PHASE FOUR IS CURRENTLY FUNDED AND THAT INCLUDES THIS PARTICULAR CULVERT ACTIVITY WITH A SAVINGS FROM THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE OF HOW

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10,000.

THE ONE THAT CULVERTS THEMSELVES NOT OKAY.

NOT ON THE ORIGINAL, ORIGINAL ESTIMATE.

WE'RE WAY OVER THAT.

AND THEN, UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING TO APPLY FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR OLD OAK FI PHASE FIVE.

PHASE FIVE, YES.

THAT WOULD BE, AND THEN YOUNG'S DRIVE IS CURRENTLY FUNDING FUNDED? YES.

UH, AND THE COUNTY'S PORTION, UM, 25% OF THAT CORRECT.

AND OF THE YOUNGS? YEAH, WELL INITIAL 25% WHAT YOU APPROVED.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME INFLATIONARY FIGURES IN THERE THAT UNLESS THE BOARD TAKES ACTION TO CHANGE, WE WILL NOT FUND, IT'LL BE THROUGH THE SANITARY DISTRICT.

WE HAVE KEPT THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY PUT THE 25%, 570,070.

570,000 THAT WE PUT IN TWO YEARS AGO IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET.

AND THAT MONEY HAS REMAINED THERE IN THE GENERAL FUND.

AND WHAT THE BOARD HAD SAID WAS THAT THAT FUND WOULD REMAIN, THOSE FUNDS WOULD REMAIN FOR THESE PROJECTS, BUT THERE WOULD BE NO ADDITIONAL COUNTY GENERAL FUND MONIES PUT TOWARDS THE ROADS.

SO THAT THIS IS ANYTHING ELSE WE DO IS GONNA BE BETWEEN VDOT AND THE SANITARY DISTRICT.

AND IF YOU REMEMBER WE HAVE THE MONEY IN THE SANITARY DISTRICT AT THIS TIME FOR THOSE ROADS, AND THEN LAKE DRIVE IS ALSO, UM, FUNDED MM-HMM.

AND THE AGREEMENT IS, IS SIGNED AND THAT'S $570,000 FROM THE COUNTY AS WELL.

AND THEN WESTERN LANE PHASE TWO IS $750,000.

AND IT APPEARS THAT THAT IS FUNDED, CORRECT? MM-HMM.

THEY'RE, I MEAN THE, THEY'RE VDOT APPROVED PROJECTS.

SO COUNTY, I MEAN, WHEN YOU SAY FUNDED AND APPROVED, I MEAN WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND WHETHER IT'S FUNDED, APPROVED, APPROVED PROJECT BY VDOT AND WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT, BUT DR.

DALEY'S TELLING YOU HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE COMMITTED AS FAR AS COUNTY FUNDS VERSUS SANITARY DISTRICT FUNDS.

AND WE HAVE NO COUNTY FUNDS IN THE NEW PROJECTS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

, DO YOU HAVE THAT SHEET RIGHT HERE? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE A, A TOTAL OF FIVE 70.

THERE'S A COUNTY PORTION WITHIN THOSE PROJECTS ON THE INITIAL PHASES, BUT YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF INFLATIONARY COST WOULD NOT BE COVERED BY THE COUNTY.

SO WAS THE INITIAL AMOUNT THERE, HOW MUCH IS THAT ONE LAKE DRIVE? HANG ON.

MY EYES ARE OLD .

MAKE SURE I GOT THE RIGHT ONE.

BRING MY GLASSES.

SEE WE GOT, ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S LAKE LAKE DRIVE.

THE INITIAL REVENUE ALLOCATION WAS 475,000.

THE LOCAL PARTICIPATION WOULD BE 2 37 5.

SO THAT WAS OUR INITIAL COST.

SO WE DO, WE DID ESTIMATE A COUNTY, COUNTY FUNDING INTO THAT ONE OF, UM, ESTIMATE OR APPROPRIATE BUDGET.

NO, WE, WE DID AN ESTIMATE.

WE DIDN'T APPROPRIATE COUNTY FUNDING IN LAKE OR WESTERN.

WE ONLY APPROPRIATE A COUNTY FUNDING IN FOUR, FIVE AND YOUNGS, WHICH ARE THE FUNDS THAT YOU MENTIONED.

SO THERE ARE NO COUNTY FUNDS COMMITTED TO THESE OTHER PROJECTS, WHICH IS LAKE DRIVE IN WESTERN LANE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO DISCUSSION.

SO YEAH, SO THE INITIAL APPLICATION WAS ON THE PREMISE OF UM, US APPLYING WITH THE COUNTY BACKING IT UP, BUT THERE'S NO FUNDING ON THE, UH, IT WAS, I THINK IT WAS NOVEMBER 9TH WHEN WE DID THE PROJECT UPDATE AND GAVE YOU THAT SPREADSHEET.

YEP.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW ALONG CUZ IT CHANGES AND THE INFLATIONARY FACTORS ARE, UM, ALWAYS AT WORK.

YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY.

SO I GAVE YOU PROB THERE'S PROBABLY MORE INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKAGE.

WHAT I WAS JUST TRYING TO KIND OF KEEP IT FLOWING SO YOU KNOW WHERE WE WERE HITTING.

YEAH, I HAVE EVERYTHING HERE.

THE REVENUE SHARING.

YEAH, THE LOCAL PARTICIPATION AND THEN THE, YEAH.

SO PHASE FIVE, THE APPLICATION PERIOD HADN'T OPENED UP YET.

I THINK IT SHOULD OPEN BY MAY OF THIS YEAR.

UH, IT WORKS ON THE OPPOSITE YEARS.

UM, REVENUE SHARING AND SMART SCALE.

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SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE IT.

I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE ORDER TO EASTERN VAULT FOR DELIVERY OF THE PRECAST BOX CULVERTS FOR $695,583 ON BEHALF OF THE SHANDEL FARM SANITARY DISTRICT.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND MS. ROCKY ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. MABE? AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MR. BUTLER? AYE.

THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA WAS K, WHICH WAS THE, UM, IMPLEMENTATION OF THE HIRING POLL, IF YOU WILL.

[J. Implementation of a County-Wide Hiring Freeze - Cheryl Cullers]

NOW WE'RE REMOVING THIS OFF THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT'S NO LONGER NECESSARY.

ME SEE, EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT NOTIFICATION FOR THE POOL HOUSE.

THERE'S NO ACTION ON THE BOARD.

SO WE ARE REPLACING IT WITH, LET

[K. Additional New Business (If needed)]

MS. SCOTT.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

ON MARCH 1ST, 2023, THIS CLAIM INCLUDE DEPARTMENT WAS NOTIFIED OF POTENTIAL SAFETY HAZARD POOL HOUSE, WHICH HOUSES CHEMICALS USED TO TREAT POOL WATER.

AFTER REVIEWING INTERNAL STAFF REPORTS ON OF ONSITE VISITS, PICTURES AND UNDERSTANDING THE OVERALL STATUS OF THE POOL HOUSE, I RECOMMENDED AN EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT DETERMINATION FROM THE VIRGINIA PUBLIC PROCUREMENT ACT.

ON AN EMERGENCY, A CONTRACT MAY BE AWARDED WITHOUT COMPETITIVE SEALED BIDDING OR COMPETITIVE COMPETITIVE NEGOTIATION.

HOWEVER, SUCH PROCUREMENT SHALL BE MADE WITH SUCH COMPETITION AS IS PRACTICABLE.

UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, A WRITTEN DETERMINATION OF THE BASIS FOR THE EMERGENCY AND FOR THE SELECTION OF THE PARTICULAR CONTRACTOR SHALL BE INCLUDED IN THE CONTRACT FILE.

THE PUBLIC BODY SHALL ISSUE A WRITTEN NOTICE STATING THAT THE CONTRACT IS BEING AWARDED ON AN EMERGENCY BASIS AND IDENTIFYING THAT WHICH IS BEING PROCURED, THE CONTRACTOR SELECTED, AND THE DATE IN WHICH THE CONTRACT WAS OR WILL BE AWARDED.

UH, THE INITIAL ESTIMATE THAT WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET IS FROM LANCE CONSTRUCTION.

UH, THE ESTIMATE IS FOR $93,500 AND THIS IS TO MAKE ESSENTIAL REPAIRS TO THE POOL HOUSE BECAUSE OF THE DAMAGE THAT THE CHEMICALS HAVE DONE TO THE INSIDE OF THE POOL HOUSE.

UH, MR. BARRY CAN ANSWER MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DAMAGE AND WE'VE PROVIDED SOME PICTURES AS WELL.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? YEAH, I, I JUST WANTED TO FIND OUT.

UH, SO THE, SO THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT Y'ALL, UM, JUST KIND OF FOUND ON THE SPOT OR IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.

TO, UH, IS THAT JUST GOING TO ADDRESS THE, THE, THE SITUATION OR IS THAT GOING TO ADDRESS THE SITUATION AND HELP PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN? IT, IT WILL DO BOTH.

AND THEN, UM, WE ACTUALLY HAD A COUPLE CONTRACTORS VISIT.

I'D ASKED DONNA SHACKLEFORD OUR BUILDING'S, UM, SUPERVISOR, OPERATIONS MANAGER TO UH, GET SOME PRICES, UM, TO PRESENT IT TO BUILDING, UM, COMMITTEE MEETING.

UM, AND WE WERE GONNA PLAN AND TO PUT IT ACTUALLY IN OUR C I P, BUT UM, SHE CALLED ME.

UM, AND A COUPLE OF CONTRACTORS DIDN'T WANT TO TOUCH THE WORK, UM, DUE TO THE CONDITION.

UM, SO I ACTUALLY VISITED ON SITE.

WE ACTUALLY HAD SOME, UH, ADDITIONAL FOLLOW UP, UM, WITH THE, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AND UM, ACTUALLY HAD THE FIRE MARSHAL, UM, ACTUALLY COME AND INSPECT.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE SAFETY CONCERNS THERE THAT I FEEL NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY.

UM, I THINK THAT THE, THE VENTILATION, UM, NOT WORKING IS THE PRIMARY PROBLEM.

UM, BUT THERE WERE SOME, I THINK INITIAL DESIGN ISSUES AS WELL.

UM, SAFETY CONCERNS AND UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAME UP WITH A, I THINK A PLAN THAT IS BEST TO, UM, ADDRESS THE SAFETY CONCERNS FOR THE CHILDREN THAT USE A FACILITY, THE EMPLOYEES THAT USE A FACILITY AND JUST MAKE IT A SAFE PLACE.

UH, IN GENERAL, UM, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO, UH, TO MAINTAIN THE FACILITY OF COURSE, BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE CHEMICALS INSIDE.

UM, BUT WE HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, WATER INFILTRATING THE FACILITY, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT THE VENTILATION WORKING PROPERLY.

UM, YOU SUBJECT EMPLOYEES TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME ASPHYXIATION WITH CHEMICALS OR, UM, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH RUST ON PANELS, UM, IN THERE AS WELL.

SO I THINK THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

UM, I HAVE A PICTURE HERE, I CAN PASS THESE AROUND OF THE EXHAUST FAN.

YOU KNOW, THE CHEMICALS ATE OFF THE, THE, UM, FAN BLADES SO, YOU KNOW, UM, THE RUST GETS TO ALL OF THE, THE SWITCHES, ET CETERA.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND I, I THINK WE WANT TO TRY TO DO THIS TIMELY SO THAT WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT SAFE AND GET THE POOL OPEN.

SO THEN ARE, ARE THE, ARE THE THINGS THAT, UH, THAT YOU'RE DOING, WHETHER ARE THOSE GOING

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UM, YOU KNOW, YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE TO, UM, DO MAINTENANCE IN THE FACILITY AS DESIGNED, BUT UM, THE UPGRADE IN THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THE ELECTRICAL PANELS ARE ACTUALLY IN THE SAME ROOM, UM, AS THE CHEMICAL.

SO WE WOULD ACTUALLY WALL THAT OUT.

UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WANT TO GET THE DRAINAGE THAT'S COMING INTO THAT BUILDING OUT OF THERE.

UM, THE VENTILATION OF COURSE NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

UM, WE WANNA SECURE THE AREA SO THE CHILDREN CAN'T GET NEAR IT.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND I MEAN IT HAS A LOCK ON THE DOOR, BUT, UM, SOME OF THE MATERIALS CAN BE MORE WELL SUITED FOR THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE THERE.

UM, BUT THIS, IT SHOULD EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE FACILITY, UM, FROM, YOU KNOW, IF WE JUST WOULD GO IN AND JUST UPGRADE THE ELECTRIC, THE ELECTRIC IS A MAJOR COST BECAUSE WE NEED TO UPGRADE THE PANELS.

AND CHANGE 'EM OUT.

THIS SIR SOLVES THE PROBLEM, IT TAKES CARE OF THE FUTURE.

NOW HOW CAN WE KEEP THE KIDS AWAY FROM THIS? WELL, PART OF THE PLAN IS THAT WE'RE GONNA PUT SOME FENCE, UM, AROUND IT.

UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WILL KEEP THEM FROM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, BEING A LITTLE HIDING SPOT, YOU KNOW, IF, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DOOR DOES HAVE A LOCK ON IT, BUT WE STILL DON'T WANT THEM AROUND THAT AREA.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOPE, I DO HAVE ONE.

YES MA'AM.

UH, THE ESTIMATE COST OF 93 K.

SO HOW IS THIS COMING OUTTA YOUR BUDGET OR IS IT COMING OUT OF THE CAPITAL? CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT? YES, THIS IS GONNA BE OUT OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE THE BOARD WITH A BUDGET COST.

WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT EMERGENCY PROCUREMENTS FOR BUILDING ISSUES, BUT I WOULD LIKE THE BOARD TO SEE AN OVERALL BUDGET FOR EACH OF THOSE ISSUES.

AND YOU'LL SEE THE MONEY THAT WE'RE REQUESTING TO BE TAKEN FROM THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE FOR BUILDINGS.

VERY GOOD.

SPECIFICALLY CAPITAL.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ANY MAJOR UPGRADES BEING DONE TO THIS FACILITY, UM, SINCE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS INITIALLY THE TOWN HAD BUILT IT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE COUNTY TOOK OVER.

SO I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY, I DON'T KNOW IF TARRAN AND YOU, NO.

SO I THINK THIS WILL BE KIND OF THE FIRST OVERHAUL REALLY.

SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT FOR THE POOL HOUSE? UM, I MOVE THAT WE, UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW TO WORD, THIS IS EXACTLY A WORD.

INSTRUC, DO YOU WANNA PROVIDE THE MOTION? YES.

SO THE, THE MOTION PROVIDED BY MRS. SCOTT, UH, TO ME IN A TEXT MESSAGE EARLIER THIS EVENING, UH, WAS I MOVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUTHORIZED THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE ORDER TO LANCE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FOR THE SUCCESSFUL REPAIRS TO THE POOL HOUSE IN THE AMOUNT OF $93,500.

SO MOVED.

SECOND ROLL CALL MR. BUTLER.

AYE MRS. COLORS? AYE.

SO THERE, UM, ANY ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WANT TO PRESENT? NOPE.

IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING? SO MOVED.

SO MOVED.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE.

AYE AYE.

AYE.

WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR ATTENDING.