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[A. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America]

[00:00:06]

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

WELCOME TO THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING DATED APRIL 18TH, 2023.

UM, WE'LL BEGIN OUR MEETING WITH, UM, WITH THE PRAYER FROM PASTOR DESANTIS.

WELL, LET'S PRAY.

THANK YOU, FATHER, I THANK AND PRAISE YOU AGAIN FOR THIS A NEW DAY.

THANK YOU FOR THE BEAUTY OF THE DAY.

FATHER, I THANK YOU FOR OUR, OUR WONDERFUL COMMUNITY AND THE BEAUTY OF IT.

THIS TIME OF YEAR, THE RED BUDS ARE BLOOMING AND OTHER TREES, AND, UH, IT'S SUCH A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE.

AND I THANK YOU FATHER FOR, UH, OUR POLICE FORCE THAT KEEPS US SAFE.

OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WHO, UH, ALSO COME TO OUR AID WHEN NEEDED.

FATHER, I THANK YOU FOR, UH, THE COUNCIL AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO AS THEY SEEK TO, UM, GOVERN AND DO THAT WHICH IS BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

UH, PRAY FOR ZACK TONIGHT AS HE'S, THIS IS HIS FIRST MEETING, AND IF HE'S GOT ANY NERVES GOING ON THAT YOU'LL CALM THOSE.

AND FATHER OF THAT, ALL THAT IS SAID AND DONE TONIGHT, WE'LL BE PLEASING TO YOU AND BRING, HONOR OUR GLORY TO YOU.

UH, GUIDE AND DIRECT.

GIVE WISDOM, UH, AND MAY WE DO TO OTHERS AS WE WOULD HAVE OTHERS DO TO US.

AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE PRAISE FOR ASCO.

IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN.

AMEN.

HAVE A BLESSED EVENING.

THANK YOU.

WITH THAT CALL, OUR MEETING TO ORDER.

EVERYONE, PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE, PLEDGE OF PLEDGE, ALLEG ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HELLO EVERYONE.

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[B. Adoption of Agenda – Additions or Deletions]

SO NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDAS, UH, IS ADOPTING THE AGENDA.

SO IS THERE ANY DELETIONS OR, UM, ADDITIONS TO OUR AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING? IF NOT, OH, H TWO.

DO WE WANNA DO THAT? NOW? WHAT, I WAS GONNA REMOVE THAT WHEN WE GOT TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT DO WE WANNA GO AHEAD AND DO IT NOW? EITHER JUST YOU NEED TO STRIKE IT RATHER THAN REMOVE IT FOR DISCUSSION.

OH, OH, THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.

SO LET'S, UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA THAT WE DO REVISE THE, UH, AGENDA IN, UM, MS. COLORS.

I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE ITEM TWO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA PURCHASE OF THE 2026 PIERCE AND ENFORCER PUMPER, UH, FROM ATLANTIC EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS TO BE BROUGHT BACK UP AT ANOTHER DATE.

AND THEN OTHERWISE APPROVE THE AGENDA WITH THAT MODIFICATION.

SO MOVED.

SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. MABE.

AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MADAME CHAIR? AYE.

MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MR. BUTLER? AYE.

THANK YOU.

[C. Public Comment Period (60 Minute Time Limit)]

NICK'S ITEM IS OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

AND JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO GIVE INPUT ON RELEVANT ISSUE, NOT THE SUBJECT OF A PUBLIC HEARING.

AND IT'S NOT INTENDED AS A QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD.

THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD SHALL BE LIMITED TO 60 MINUTES WITH THREE MINUTES FOR ANY ONE PERSON.

SPEAKERS MAY ONLY SPEAK ONCE AND THE SPEAKERS WILL BE HEARD IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY HAVE SIGNED UP.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, MR. HENDERSON, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR THIS EVENING? UH, YES, MA'AM.

UH, CLAIRE SCHMIDT.

CLAIRE SCHMIDT, I LIVE AT 3 37 WEST 10TH STREET, FRONT, ROYAL, VIRGINIA.

GOOD EVENING BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

I EMAILED YOU ALL AN INTRODUCTION AT THE END OF LAST MONTH, BUT I WANTED TO SORT OF INTRODUCE MYSELF PUBLICLY TO ALL OF YOU SO YOU CAN PUT A FACE TO THE NAME.

I'VE MET WITH SOME OF YOU.

UM, SO I KNOW SOME OF YOU ALREADY KNOW ME IN SOME CAPACITY, BUT I WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AS THE NEWLY APPOINTED, I THINK I'M LIKE SIX WEEKS OLD NOW.

UM, PRESIDENT AND CHAIRMAN OF DISCOVER FRONT ROYAL.

UH, AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW, OUR MISSION IS TO PROMOTE THE COMMON ECONOMIC INTERESTS OF ALL THE COMMERCIAL TOURISM ENTERPRISES IN THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL AND WARREN COUNTY.

OUR INTENTION WAS TO BE THE DESTINATION MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATION, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS DMO AND BE THE

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BACKBONE OF REGIONAL TOURISM FOR OUR AREA, SUPPORTING THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY, AND INCREASING TOURISM REVENUE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

WHEN CARRIE BARNHART D R'S TOWN, OR SORRY, WHEN CARRIE BARNHART, D R'S PRIOR CHAIR, AND NOW A CURRENT BOARD MEMBER APPROACHED ME TO JOIN THE BOARD, KNOWING HOW CRITICAL TOURISM IS TO OUR COMMUNITY AND HOW MUCH TIME AND EFFORT DFR HAS ALREADY POURED INTO THIS, I SAID YES ON THE CONDITION.

SHE STAYED ON THE BOARD TO SUPPORT ME IN THE TRANSITION AND HELP ME GET UP TO SPEED, WHICH SHE HAS GRACIOUSLY DONE WHILE I'M STILL ABSORBING THE THOUSAND PLUS PAGES OF READING THAT SHE SHARED WITH ME OVER THE LAST MONTH.

I'M HAPPY TO SAY I'M GETTING MY ARMS AROUND THINGS NOW.

I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE@DISCOVERFRONTROYAL.COM, AND IF YOU GO, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO GET TO, BUT THERE IS A NAVIGATION THAT HAS OUR PARTNERSHIP RESOURCE AND YOU CAN CHECK OUT THE BUDGET, THE MARKETING REPORTS, THE STAKEHOLDER REPORTS, AND THE AGENDAS FOR OUR MEETINGS.

I'M INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL TO CARRIE AND THE PREVIOUS BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THEIR WORK IN GETTING DFR TO THIS POINT AND SUPPORTING, EXCUSE ME, THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY IN THEIR TOURISM EFFORTS.

I BELIEVE THE COMBINED LODGING TAX HAS GROWN AS WELL AS ALL OTHER LEADING AND LAGGING INDICATORS OF TOURISM ARE SOCIAL MEDIA FOLLOWERS, SEO POSITIONING, NUMBER OF VISITORS, MEALS TAX, ET CETERA.

WHILE I KNOW WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE ANY ACTIVE AGREEMENTS WITH EITHER THE TOWN OR THE COUNTY, AS OF THE FEBRUARY 27TH VOTE TO TERMINATE THE MOU, I AM STILL OPTIMISTIC THAT THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL WARREN COUNTY AND DISCOVER FRONT ROYAL CAN WORK TOGETHER TO IMPROVE AND ADVANCE TOURISM GROWTH IN OUR REGION.

I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, DR.

DALEY AND MR. WALTZ AS WELL AS OUR LIAISONS, DOLORES AND SKIP, AND TO TRY TO CHART A PATH FORWARD.

OUR ENTIRE BOARD AT DFR IS COMMITTED TO OUR MISSION.

IN ADDITION TO MYSELF AND CARRIE, WE ALSO HAVE ELLEN AERS, HANNAH MCKINNON, AND GRACE O'REILLY ON OUR BOARD.

ELLEN IS THE OWNER OF ELLEN ADERS INSURANCE.

SHE'S VERY ACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IN ADDITION TO BEING A BOARD MEMBER OF DISCOVER FRONT ROYAL, SHE IS ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE DOWNTOWN FRONT ROYAL BOARD AND VICE PRESIDENT OF THE ROTARY CLUB.

HANNAH IS THE GENERAL MANAGER OF DOUBLETREE BY HILTON FRONT, ROYAL BLUE RIDGE SHADOWS AND IS ONE OF THE VOICES OF LODGING FOR OUR BOARD.

SHE WAS ON THE ORIGINAL BOARD AND AGREED TO STAY ON, WHICH WE'RE GRATEFUL TO HER FOR DOING.

UH, GRACE IS OUR NEWEST BOARD MEMBER AND MANAGES THE O'REILLY.

FAMILY'S GROWING SHORT TERM RENTAL BUSINESS, ROLLING RIVER HOLIDAYS LOCATED HERE IN WARREN COUNTY.

IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, THEY'VE ADDED THREE NEW HOMES WITH THREE MORE COMING BY THE END OF 2023 OR TO EARLY 2024.

GRACE IS OUR OTHER VOICE OF LODGING ON OUR BOARD AND WE TRY TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO LODGING REPRESENTATIVES ON OUR BOARD.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU HEARING ME OUT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU.

AND I WILL BE THE POINT OF CONTACT AND FACE OF DFR FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO DOLORES AND ED, WHO'VE BEEN REALLY HELPFUL TO ME THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND GETTING ME UP TO SPEED.

AND I WOULD STAY FOR THE MEETING, BUT MY SON IS PLAYING BASEBALL AT BEN CROSBY STADIUM, SO I'M GONNA GO TRY TO CATCH HIM AT BAT.

SO THANK YOU ALL.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO, MA'AM.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WE'D LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK? NEXT CALL, FINAL CALL.

PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED.

OKAY,

[D. Reports – Board Members, County Administrator, County Attorney]

NEXT ITEM ARE THEY ARE REPORTS.

UH, MR. BUTLER.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

JUST, UH, TWO THINGS THAT I WANTED TO REPORT.

ONE IS THAT, UH, UH, MYSELF AND, UH, THE MADAME CHAIR WENT OVER TO THE, TO THE LIBRARY.

A CONSTITUENT HAD, UH, SENT IN A, UH, A CONCERN.

AND SO WE HAD A, A, UH, UH, MEETING WITH THE LIBRARY AND WE'VE GOT A, UH, WAY FORWARD ON THAT.

UH, SO THE, UH, AND I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I DO APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE LIBRARY WORKING WITH US BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN VERY, VERY HELPFUL.

UH, THE SECOND ONE IS THAT, UH, UH, I RODE WITH THE, UH, WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OF I, I ONLY SPENT A HALF A DAY WITH, UH, UH, WITH LIEUTENANT, UH, UH, RICK FERRELL.

BUT, UH, I DO APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT, UH, THAT I WAS ABLE TO SPEND WITH HIM AND, UH, JUST GET A SMALL TASTE.

AND, UH, HE TOLD ME THAT, UH, FIRE STATION 10 WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ONE OF THE QUIETEST.

AND IF THAT'S THE QUIETEST, I'D HATE TO SEE WHAT THE ONES THAT ARE REALLY BUSY DO BECAUSE YEAH, BECAUSE THE, UH, IN THE TIME THAT I WAS THERE AND I, I GOT THERE AT SEVEN AND I LEFT AT, UH, TWO 30.

WE WENT ON, WE WENT OUT ON TWO CALLS AND ONE WAS TO THE, UH, TO THE LOCAL HOSPITAL, AND THE OTHER ONE WAS, UH, TO THE UP TO WINCHESTER.

SO, UH, WE WERE QUITE BUSY THAT DAY.

AND I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU, I REALLY HAVE TO, UH, GIVE IT TO THE, UH, UH, TO THE SAFETY FOLKS WITHIN THE COUNTY.

THEY DO A, IT'S A HARD JOB, BUT THEY DO IT VERY WELL.

SO, UH, MY KUDOS GO TO, TO, UH, CHIEF ANZANO AND TO, UH, LIEUTENANT, UH, UH, RICK FERRELL.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU, MS. KOHLERS.

UH, YES, ON

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APRIL 5TH, THE TOWN COUNTY LIAISON TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, UH, COMMITTEE MET, UH, WE CONTINUE TO STRIVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

UH, WE HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FOR VDOT THERE.

IT WAS, UM, GOOD COMMUNICATION AND WE CONTINUE TO PLAN, GET A PLAN FORMATIVE MOVING FORWARD.

LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THAT RELATIONSHIP.

APRIL 6TH, I ATTENDED A D E Q, UH, PUBLIC HEARING IN LURAY.

AND, UM, THIS WAS A MEETING ON A CAMPGROUND THAT'S BEING FORMED UP THERE THAT ONCE A PERMIT TO BUILD A WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND TO DISCHARGE 50,000 GALLONS OF, UM, WATER AFTER IT'S BEEN PURIFIED INTO THE RIVER.

AND AS WE KNOW, EVERYTHING STR FLOWS DOWNSTREAM.

THE, UM, IMPORTANCE OF GOING TO THIS MEETING WAS NOT BECAUSE OF NECESSARILY THAT THE WATER IS GONNA BE CONTAMINATED WITH, UM, HUMAN EXCREMENT.

IT WAS MORE THE NUTRIENTS.

AND I'M LEARN, I'M BEGINNING TO LEARN A LOT ABOUT NUTRIENT CREDITS AND, UM, THE, WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES OF THE NUTRIENT INCREASE INTO THE RIVER COULD DO TO OUR RIVER HERE, UH, AS FAR AS INCREASING ALGAE GROWTH AFFECTING THE AQUATIC LIFE AND THAT.

UM, SO I WAS REALLY GRATEFUL TO GO TO THAT LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE.

I'VE GOT A LOT MORE TO LEARN ABOUT NUTRIENT CREDITS.

UM, ON APRIL 8TH, I WENT TO, UM, THE DINNER AT NORTH WARREN COMPANY 10, THE VOLUNTEERS PUT ON, UH, SPAGHETTI DINNER, AND I TRY TO GET TO ALL THESE FIRE DEPARTMENT SPAGHETTI DINNERS TO SUPPORT THEM WHEN I CAN.

SO IT WAS REALLY A NICE EVENING THERE.

UM, APRIL 9TH, I KNOW MR. MABE, YOU JOINED THE CHURCH AT SKYLINE.

THEY PUT ON A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION, UH, FOR EASTER.

AND, UM, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT GO ONLINE, THEY'VE GOT IT ONLINE.

IT IS A PHENOMENAL, UM, EASTER PRESENTATION TO SEE.

UM, APRIL 10TH, I ATTENDED THE BROWNTOWN MEETING.

THEY HAVE A ONCE A MONTH MEETING.

THEY'RE, UM, THIS WEEKEND IS THE RED BUD FESTIVAL AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GO OUT.

UM, LIKE, UH, THE PASTOR SAID THE TREES ARE IN BLOOM.

IT'S JUST A BEAUTIFUL DRIVE.

AND JUST TO BE SUPPORTING THE COMMUNITY CENTER AS WELL.

APRIL 11TH, UM, I WENT TO A MEETING IN BERRYVILLE, UH, WAS INVITED BY SENATOR WARNER, WHERE HE BASICALLY WANTED TO HEAR FROM THE FARMERS.

IT WAS, UH, ABOUT THE AGRICULTURE BILL.

SO I BROUGHT UP MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE NUTRIENT CREDITS AND BASICALLY HOW I FELT IT WAS JUST LEGALLY ALLOWING TO BE, TO BE DUMPED IN THE RIVER AND THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT.

AND SO HE WANTED TO HEAR MORE, AND I'M GONNA SEND HIM MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.

UM, APRIL 14TH, ALTHOUGH I THINK ALL OF US ATTENDED THE CHRISTIAN DOM R RIBBON CUTTING AT THE NEW CHAPEL, IF YOU GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THERE, THAT IS THE MOST AMAZING CHAPEL TO, TO SEE.

UM, AND THEN ON THE 16TH, I WAS INVITED TO THE GIRLS SOFTBALL LEAGUE'S OPENING, AND OVER 200 LADIES FROM I THINK THREE AND FOUR UP TO TEENAGERS, MULTITUDE OF COLORFUL, UH, UNIFORMS THAT, UM, PLAY SOFTBALL.

IT WAS A SIGHT TO BEHOLD AND WHAT A PRIVILEGE IT WAS TO BE THERE AND BE PART OF, AND TO SPEAK TO THESE YOUNG LADIES ABOUT THE WOMEN OF WARREN.

AND THE POWER THERE IS OF BELIEVING IN YOURSELF AND, UM, THAT YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU PUT YOUR MIND TO IF YOU JUST TRY.

AND THAT'S MY REPORT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. OATS.

UM, IT'S BEEN A BUSY MONTH, SO, UM, I WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT, UM, ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO I RECEIVED, UH, AN EMAIL FROM SPEAKER GILBERT AND THEY NEEDED TO HAVE A RURAL REPRESENTATIVE ON THE JOINT COMMITTEE FOR PANDEMIC RESPONSE AND PREPAREDNESS.

AND, UH, SO HE ASKED IF I WAS INTERESTED AND I WAS VERY INTERESTED.

SO ON APRIL 5TH, I DROVE TO RICHMOND AND REPRESENTED, UH, RURAL COMMUNITIES IN THIS EFFORT.

THE, UH, THE FIRST MEETING WAS ABOUT MOSTLY ORGANIZATION AND SETTING, UH, THE GUIDELINES AND THE, WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING.

BUT I WAS APPOINTED TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR, UM, GOVERNMENT AND REGULATORY SYSTEMS. AND SO THAT'S BASICALLY TELLING THE GOVERNMENT OR EVALUATING WHETHER THE GOVERNMENT OVERREACHED DURING THE PANDEMIC.

NOT SURE HOW YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT IT, BUT I CAN ALREADY DRAW A FEW CONCLUSIONS ANYWAY, SO, UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING FUN ON THAT COMMITTEE.

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ANYWAY, .

AND, UM, ON FOUR 11, I ALSO ATTENDED, UH, THE SENATOR WARNER, UH, PRESENTATION ON THE FARM BILL.

AND, UH, WE, UH, FOUND OUT THAT FARMERS ARE STRUGGLING AND UNFORTUNATELY THE SAME POLICIES THAT SENATOR WARNER VOTED FOR ARE HURTING FARMERS .

SO I'M REALLY NOT SURE HOW HE'S GONNA RECONCILE ALL THAT.

BUT ANNIE AND HE, AND HE WAS TOLD THAT DURING THE PRESENTATION, UM, I DID ATTEND THE SPAGHETTI DINNER AT NORTH WARREN.

AND I JUST WANNA SAY TO ALL YOU FIREFIGHTING PEOPLE, CAN YOU PLEASE HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT GONNA MAKE MY CLOTHES TIGHTER FOR DINNER BECAUSE I'VE EATEN SO MUCH SPAGHETTI RIGHT NOW.

UM, I'VE BEEN TO A LOT OF SPAGHETTI DINNERS IN THIS COMMUNITY.

AND, UH, YEP, ON FOUR 12, I WENT TO, UM, THE SMALL BUSINESS FREEDOM ALLIANCE IN WINCHESTER.

UH, THIS ORGANIZATION IS, WAS ACTUALLY FORMED DURING THE PANDEMIC TO LIMIT GOVERNMENT'S INFLUENCE ON SMALL BUSINESSES AND TO BE ABLE TO, UH, TELL SMALL BUSINESSES WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO.

SO THIS ORGANIZATION HAS, UH, BEEN OPERATING IN FREDERICK COUNTY SINCE 2020.

AND I WENT ON, UM, I WENT TO, UH, ATTEND THAT AND SAW A CLIMATE CHANGE PRESENTATION, UH, BY A GENTLEMAN FROM WINCHESTER.

AND, UM, HIS PRESENTATION IS QUITE INTERESTING AND I HOPE WE HAVE HIM HERE IN WARREN.

UH, I ALSO, UH, ATTENDED CHRIST THE KING, UH, CHAPEL RIBBON CUTTING.

AND, UM, I KNOW THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE LIKELY SEEN CHRIST THE KING CHAPEL FROM 66.

IT IS NOTHING, NOTHING CAN DESCRIBE THE INSIDE OF THAT CHAPEL.

IT IS AMAZING.

THERE ARE PIECES, UH, IN THERE FROM GERMANY.

THERE ARE IVORY PIECES.

IT'S JUST AN EXQUISITE CHAPEL.

AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU, WHETHER YOU'RE A PROTESTANT OR CATHOLIC, TO ATTEND MASS.

UH, ON FRIDAY NIGHT, I WENT TO BARK SOME BAGS.

UH, MANY OF YOU KNOW I AM A DOG MAMA.

I HAVE FOUR RESCUE DOGS IN MY HOUSEHOLD, AND I GREATLY SUPPORT THE HUMANE SOCIETY.

I THINK THAT THE WORLD WOULD BE A NICER PLACE IF EVERYBODY OWNED A PUPPY.

SO, UM, I WENT OUT TO SUPPORT THAT.

AND THEN ON FOUR 16, UM, I WAS HONORED TO REPRESENT THE COUNTY AT THE WARREN COUNTY GIRLS SOFTBALL LITTLE LEAGUE OPENING DAY.

AND, UM, LIKE MISS COLORS SAID, THERE WERE 220 YOUNG WOMEN FROM THIS COMMUNITY WHO ARE THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE WERE HONORED TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THEM FOR A FEW MINUTES ABOUT ATTAINING THEIR POTENTIAL.

AND, UM, IT WAS A GREAT TIME.

THAT'S ALL OF MY REPORT.

THANK YOU, MR. MABE.

YOU DID A LOT AND BUSY ON THE EIGHTH.

UM, I ALSO WENT TO THE NORTH WARREN, UH, VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SPAGHETTI DINNER HAD MORE THAN I NEEDED TO EAT, BUT I TOO WOULD LIKE SOMETHING MORE SUBSTANTIAL THAN SPAGHETTI.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN DO THAT, BUT IT'S THERE.

UM, AND THERE WAS ALSO ANOTHER SPAGHETTI DINNER ON, UH, LET'S SEE, THE 15TH THAT FOR, FOR RIVERTON.

UM, THERE WAS A MEETING ON APRIL 10TH FOR THE, THE, UH, BLUE MOUNTAIN HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION UP THERE.

UH, AND WE, I SAT IN WITH THE SANITARY DISTRICT AS THE, AS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE COUNTY.

AND WE HAD A, WE HAD A VERY GOOD MEETING THERE.

UM, ON THE 13TH, THE BOS AND THE SCHOOL BOARD HAD THE BUDGET DISCUSSION.

NOBODY MENTIONED THAT, BUT WE WERE ALL THERE.

YES, WE WERE.

YEP.

AND THEN ON THE 14TH, OF COURSE, CHRISTEN COLLEGE.

UH, I WAS JUST AMAZED THAT THE AMOUNT OF WOOD, AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, ALL OF THE WOOD CAME FROM THE COMMUNITY.

YEP.

OR THE AREA, NOT NECESSARILY IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT IN THE AREA.

BEAUTIFUL WOOD, BEAUTIFUL WOODWORK, BEAUTIFUL PICTURES, BEAUTIFUL.

UM, UH, JUST INLAID ITEMS, STATUES, MARBLE, YOU NAME IT, IT WAS THERE, IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.

UH, AND ON THE 17TH, UM, THAT, WHICH WAS LAST NIGHT, WE HAD A MEETING WITH, UH, SHEO FARMS, UH, THE CHAIR, OUR CHAIRMANS GOT TOGETHER AND WE SIT AND TALKED AND WE GOT, HOPEFULLY WE GOT SOME POSITIVE THINGS GOING AND, UH, THAT WAS IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US, THE WHOLE COUNTY.

AND, UH, THAT'S MY REPORT, MADAME CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

UM, THE FIRST ITEM THAT I'D LIKE TO REPORT WAS THAT, UM, LAST WEEK WE DID REVIEW THE SCHOOL BOARD BUDGET FOR FISCAL HEARING 24.

UM,

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UH, WHAT RESULTED FROM THAT MEETING WAS THAT THE, UM, SCHOOL BOARD AND BOARD OF SUPERVISOR FINANCIAL SUBCOMMITTEE MET AFTER, UH, I THINK IT WAS THE FOLLOWING DAY, TO KIND OF DO A LITTLE MORE DEEP DIVE INTO THEIR BUDGET AND STARTED SOME, UH, FACT FINDING AND NEGOTIATIONS.

UH, WE ALSO HAD THE WARREN COUNTY FINANCE AUDIT, UM, SUBCOMMITTEE THAT MET LAST WEEK AS WELL.

UH, WE HAD THE FIRE CHIEF AND THE ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF PARTICIPATED IN OUR DISCUSSION ON HOW WE CAN INCREASE THE EFFICIENCIES FOR BOTH THE COUNTY AND OUR PARTNERING PART PARTNER NAMED, UH, VOLUNTEER FIRE STATIONS.

IT WAS A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION IN, UM, UH, THE COMMITTEE IS LOOKING FORWARD AND WORKING WITH, UM, OUR FIRE AND RESCUE.

UM, I, I TOO WAS PART OF THE GROUP THAT ATTENDED THE KRISTEN DO RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY.

AND, AND AGAIN, I TOO WAS VERY HONORED TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS COMMUNITY FAITH EVENT.

UM, THE CHAPEL WAS VERY, VERY BEAUTIFUL IN, UM, I I JUST HAD A WONDERFUL DAY.

I WAS IN AWE WITH EVERYTHING I SAW.

SO, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

UM, DR.

DALEY.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT THE BOARD HAS A MEETING WITH TOWN COUNCIL AT 6:00 PM THURSDAY HERE, AND THAT APRIL 25TH, NEXT TUESDAY, YOU WILL HAVE YOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR ALL THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS ON MAY 2ND.

IF YOU TAKE ACTION THIS EVENING, WE WILL HAVE THE HEARING ON ALL OF THE TAX RATES AND IMPROVE THOSE TAX RATES IN ADDITION TO TAX RELIEF FOR THE ELDERLY AND DISABLED.

AND THEN UPON APPROVAL ON MAY THE SECOND, AND ON MAY THE THIRD, THE BILLS, THE RATES WILL GO TO THE COMMISSIONER SO THAT THEY CAN GO TO THE TREASURER ON MAY THE 10TH SO THAT THEY CAN BE MAILED ON MAY THE 17TH.

AND THEY WILL BE DUE JUNE 22ND.

AND YOUR OTHER ITEM FOR THIS EVENING IS TO APPROVE THE EXTENSION OF THE DUE DATE.

AND THAT COINCIDES THE TOWN'S DUE DATE WILL BE THE 20TH.

AND WE TOOK THE 22ND BECAUSE THE 20TH IS, AND THE 21ST ARE HOLIDAYS FOR THE ELECTION AND FOR THE, UM, JUNETEENTH IS THE OTHER ONE THERE.

UM, THEN WE WILL COME BACK ON MAY THE NINTH AT WORK SESSION AND WE'LL BE BACK TO TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET IN A BOX.

UH, THE BOX IS GROWING SMALLER.

WE HAVE EVERYTHING FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD AND SO FORTH IN THE BOX NOW, AND WE'RE STARTING TO TAKE VARIOUS THINGS OUT AND WE'LL BE WORKING ON THAT AND HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU ON THE NINTH.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

MR. HAM.

I HAVE NO REPORT.

OH, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

CERTAINLY.

OH, HE HAS A REPORT.

WHAT'S THAT? NOT RIGHT NOW.

.

THEY GAVE ME ONE MORE SURPRISE.

.

VERY GOOD.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE'S REPORTS.

UH, THE NEXT ITEM

[E. Appropriations and Transfers]

ON OUR AGENDA, UM, ARE, UH, OUR, OUR APPROVAL FOR APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS.

SO IS THERE ANYBODY ON THE BOARD THAT'D LIKE TO HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON, ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? AND IF NOT, UM, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE OUR APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS? SO MOVE MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. BUTLER? AYE.

MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MR. MABE? AYE.

THANK YOU.

UH, NEXT ITEM

[F. Approval of Accounts]

IS, UH, APPROVAL OF OUR ACCOUNTS.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE UNLESS THERE'S OTHER DISCUSSIONS OF THE BOARD? ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.

I WILL SAY THAT I, I SEE IMPROVEMENT ON, UH, THE DESCRIPTIONS, UM, IN A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS AND I GIVE KUDOS TO THAT.

BUT THERE ARE STILL OTHERS THAT THERE'S NO DESCRIPTIONS FOR.

SO, UM, PROGRESS IS BEING MADE.

I WILL SAY THAT.

THANK YOU.

SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? HELLO? SO MOVED.

SECOND.

SECOND.

OH, OKAY.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. MABE? AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE MRS. COLORS? NO.

MR. BUTLER.

AYE.

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NEXT

[G. Approval of Minutes]

ITEM IS OUR APPROVAL OF OUR MINUTES FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING DATED ON MARCH 28TH, 2023.

IS THERE ANY ADDITIONS TO REVISIONS TO OUR MEATY MINUTES? IF NOT, DO WE HAVE AN APPROVAL OF OUR MEATY MINUTES AS PRESENTED? SO MOVE MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. BUTLER? AYE.

MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MR. MABE? AYE.

[H. Consent Agenda]

VERY WELL, THANKS.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS ON ITEM H, WHICH IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE TO HAVE ANYTHING TO REMOVE OR ADD OTHER THAN TWO, CORRECT? YEAH, WE'RE DELETING, WE'RE REMOVING NUMBER TWO FOR, UH, A FUTURE MEETING.

IF NOT, I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT I'D LIKE TO REMOVE FOR DISCUSSION.

UM, I'D LIKE TO REMOVE ITEMS SIX AND 10 THROUGH 13.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA, UM, WITHOUT ITEMS SIX AND SIX AND 10 THROUGH 13? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM SIX AND ITEMS 10 THROUGH 13.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. MABE? AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MR. BUTLER? AYE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY,

[H.6. Authorization to Advertise - Ordinance Delaying Penalties and Interest Upon Certain Local Taxes - Ed Daley, County Administrator]

SO, UH, NUMBER SIX IS AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE.

IT'S AN ORDINANCE DELAYING PENALTIES IN INTEREST UPON CIRCLE CERTAIN LOCAL TAXES.

MR. DALEY, WHAT THIS DOES, MA'AM, IS THIS CHANGES THE DUE DATE TO JUNE 22ND.

SO IT'S AN EXTENSION.

UH, THERE WILL BE NO, SINCE WE WON'T SEND THEM OUT UNTIL MAY THE 17TH, WE WANT TO GIVE EVERYONE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PAY THEIR BILLS.

AND SO THEY WON'T BE DUE UNTIL THE 22ND.

AND THIS MEANS THERE'LL BE NO, OTHERWISE THERE WOULD BE A PENALTY FROM, I BELIEVE IT'S JUNE 6TH.

OH YEAH, 10%.

THERE WOULD BE A PENALTY FROM JUNE 6TH ON, AND THIS DELAYS THAT UNTIL THE 22ND.

SO THIS IS THE TAX EXEMPTION THAT YOU EXTENSION YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT IS THE EXTENSION? YES, MA'AM.

OKAY, I HAVE NO PROBLEM.

SO, SO, UM, DR.

DALEY LAST YEAR WE DID THE SUM, WE DID SOMETHING SIMILAR.

YES, MA'AM.

UM, HOWEVER, THE BILLS STILL GO OUT WITH THE DUE DATE OF JUNE 5TH, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.

AND THE EXTENSION IS NOT ON THE BILL.

SO YOU WILL HAVE TO, WE ADVERTISED AT THE TOP OF THE WEBSITE MM-HMM.

AND THROUGH VARIOUS OTHER CHANNELS TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE BILLS THEMSELVES, THEMSELVES STILL SAY JUNE 5TH.

CORRECT.

SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT'S, THAT'S PUBLISHED.

WELL, I DO BELIEVE YOU ARE CORRECT MA'AM.

YEAH, I ASKED LAST YEAR MRS. HOURS TO BE CERTAIN, BUT I BELIEVE SO.

YEAH.

I REMEMBER, UM, SHERRY SAYING MS. SOUR SAYING LAST YEAR THAT WE COULDN'T REPRINT THE BILLS BECAUSE THAT WAS OUTSIDE CODE, I GUESS.

YES.

BUT, AND WE JUST HAD TO EDUCATE OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT THEY HAD AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME TO PAY THE, THE BILL.

THAT'LL BE IF I, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.

I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.

YES, MA'AM.

OKAY.

QUESTION, SINCE WE HAVEN'T SENT THE BILLS OUT OR PRINTED THEM, COULD THIS BE ADDED TO THEM? I THINK SINCE, BECAUSE IT'S AN OUTSIDE SOURCE, I THINK IT'S ALREADY THERE AND WE WILL REMIND THE COMMISSIONER TO REMIND THEM OF THIS.

BUT I THINK IT'S ALREADY SET AND I'M NOT SURE.

I'M NOT SURE WE CAN CHANGE IT, MA'AM.

OKAY.

BUT WE WILL MAKE AN EVERY EFFORT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION? I'M, UH, LET'S SEE.

IT SAYS A MOTION THAT THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE ORDINANCE DELAYING PENALTIES AND ENTERS UPON CERTAIN LOCAL TAXES.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. BUTLER.

AYE.

MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MR. MABE? AYE.

THANK YOU.

OUR MOTION CARRIES.

[H.10. Award Recommendation: Audit Services]

NEXT ITEM IS, UM, ITEM 10, WHICH IS THE, THE AWARD RECOMMENDATION FOR OUR COUNTY AUDIT SERVICES.

MS. SCOTT.

THANK YOU.

MAD CHAIR.

THE

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COUNTY'S FINANCE AND PURCHASING DEPARTMENT WAS REQUIRED TO ISSUE A SOLICITATION FOR AUDIT SERVICES AS A CONTRACT.

FINAL TERM HAD NOW BEEN REACHED, THE CONTRACT TERM ENDED AS A CO COMPLETION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 22 AQUIFER WAS SUBMITTED.

THE PROCUREMENT METHOD USED WAS COMPETITIVE NEGOTIATION AND THE COUNTY RECEIVED TWO SEALED PROPOSALS.

AN EVALUATION TEAM MET WITH BOTH FIRMS. UM, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

SO WE'RE JUST ACTUALLY GENERATING A CONTRACT FOR THOSE PEOPLE? YES.

THIS IS A NEW CONTRACT.

IT'S A NEW CO OH, I'M SO SORRY.

IT'S A NEW CONTRACT FOR ROBERTSON FARMERS AND COX ASSOCIATES.

AND THIS IS THE SAME FIRM THAT WE'VE USED.

THIS IS THE INCUMBENT FIRM? THIS IS THE SAME FIRM? YES.

OKAY.

AND WE PUT IT OUT FOR A BIT AND WE GOT TWO TWO.

AND WE CHOSE ROB ROBINSON.

FARMER COX ASSOCIATES? YES.

OKAY.

AND YOU'RE SO FAR SATISFIED WITH HER PERFORMANCE? YES, I AM.

OKAY.

AND HEY, AND WE WILL DO BETTER.

I WAS GONNA SAY DR.

BILLY, THEY WERE LATE GETTING OUR AUDIT DONE.

I IS THERE A WAY TO PUT IN THE CONTRACT IF THE AUDIT ISN'T DONE IN THE EXPECTED OR AGREED UPON TIME THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY PENALTY OR WE REDUCE THEIR FEE OR SOMETHING WITHIN THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS? THE COUNTY PUT A DATE OF NOVEMBER 30TH AS THE DATE THAT THE AQUIFER WOULD BE COMPLETED.

SO THE GOAL IS TO GET EVERYTHING COMPLETED BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS.

SO EVERYTHING IS WRAPPED UP AND THAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE A STRONG EFFORT ON THE COUNTY'S BEHALF AND A STRONG EFFORT ON THE AUDITOR'S BEHALF.

SO WE HAVE A PRE-AUDIT CPA WHO HAS BEEN CONTRACTED TO ASSIST THE COUNTY IN PREPARING EVERYTHING BEFORE THE AUDITORS ARRIVE FOR FIELD WORK, ACTUALLY BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR CLOSE, AND THEN BEFORE FIELD WORK IS COMPLETED.

SO THE GOAL IS TO HAVE A SET DATE.

UM, WE'VE WORKED ON IMPROVING COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN THE AUDIT FIRM AND THE COUNTY.

WE'VE ESTABLISHED A PORTAL WHERE WE CAN REVIEW DOCUMENTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE AND DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE SO WE CAN HOLD ONE ANOTHER ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE AQUIFER ON TIME.

OKAY.

SO I KNOW WE TALKED THE WALL ABOUT MAYBE DOING SOME TYPE OF INCENTIVE PROVISION.

I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO VP P A, I'M NOT SURE AN INCENTIVE CONTRACT IS ALLOWED.

WELL, NOT MUCH THE, THE TYPE OF CONTRACT, JUST A PROVISION WITHIN THE CONTRACT, LIKE A CONTRACT CLAUSE.

I'D BE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO WORK WITH OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY TO LOOK INTO THE LANGUAGE FOR THAT.

SEE YOU CAN PUT A CLAUSE IN THERE JUST PUTTING SOME TYPE IN THE SENATE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY, THEY BRING IT BEFORE THEY GET SO MUCH, UH, DISCOUNT OR YOU KNOW, OR A, OR AN ADDITIONAL FEE ON OUR PART.

AND IF THEY GO OVER IT, THEN IT'S, UH, IT, IT GETS RED REDUC, UH, THEIR SERVICES IS REDUCED OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, CAN JUST BE CREATIVE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WE DO HAVE A TARGET DATE OF NOVEMBER 30TH.

I MEAN, THAT'S A DEADLINE, BUT, YOU KNOW, DEAD PAST HISTORY AND LESSONS LEARNED, DEADLINES, YOU KNOW, DON'T ALWAYS COME THROUGH ON, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY SHOULD.

AND BECAUSE THIS AUDIT RE THIS UM, AUDIT REPORT IS SO ESSENTIAL FOR US TO MOVE AHEAD ON OUR BUDGETS FOR THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LESSONS LEARNED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO SOMEHOW TRY TO GET SOME TYPE OF INSURANCE THAT WE'LL GET IT WHEN BEFORE WHAT DECEMBER? I THINK.

SO WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS WANTED, ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO IS TO MAKE IT CLEARER WITH THE AUDIT, WHAT THEY NEED AND WHEN THEY NEED IT AND WHAT EXACTLY WE NEED TO DO ON OUR SIDE.

AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE AUDITOR ON THAT AS TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT CLEAR SO THAT THAT IS NOT AN EXCUSE FOR A DELAY.

OKAY.

SO IT'S, SO BEFORE WE PUT AN INCENTIVE ON THEM, WE'VE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE OUR SIDE EXACTLY WHERE IT SHOULD BE.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THERE.

WE'RE OKAY.

SHE'S WORKING VERY HARD ON IT.

OKAY.

IF YOU'RE HAPPY, YES.

HI DR.

DALEY.

COULD YOU NOT REQUIRE THEM TO GIVE YOU A PROJECT PLAN A DATE? LIKE WHEN DO YOU NEED THIS? WHEN DO YOU NEED THIS? WHEN DO YOU NEED THAT? AND CHECK IT OFF.

MAKE 'EM ACCOUNTABLE THAT WAY.

WOULD THAT WORK? AND A PART MA'AM.

WE'VE GOTTA HAVE MORE ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS TO MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT THEY MEAN BY THIS ITEM AND THAT MEETING.

WHAT ALL IS INCLUDED HERE AND WHAT IS NOT INCLUDED AND UNDERSTOOD WE'RE, AS I SAID, THIS IS A JOINT

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EFFORT AND WE'RE GONNA GET THIS DONE.

RIGHT.

WELL I KNOW IF ANYBODY CAN, YOU WILL.

WELL MICHAEL'S GONNA GET HIS ACT TOGETHER.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH THAT? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE AWARD AND CONTRACT FOR SERVICES FOR ROB ROBERTSON, ROBINSON'S FARMER COX ASSOCIATES.

FURTHER MOVE THE BOARD AUTHORIZED THE CHAIR AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, EITHER OF WHOM MAY ACT TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OR THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. MABE? AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MR. BUTLER? AYE.

THANK YOU.

[H.11. Citizen Appointment to the Front Royal/Warren County Joint Tow Board - Zachary Henderson, Deputy Clerk ]

NICK'S ITEM IS, UH, THE CITIZEN APPOINTMENT TO THE FRONT ROYAL WARREN COUNTY JOINT TOE BOARD.

MR. HENDERSON? NO, IT WAS JUST AN APPLICATION I RECEIVED AND IT WAS OH, IT'S AN APP.

OH, WE AREN'T GOING TO BE, NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO.

OH, OKAY.

THIS IS, SO THERE'S, THIS IS A JOINT APPOINTMENT.

IT'S, IT'S A CITIZEN APPOINTMENT TO THE FRONT ROYAL WARREN COUNTY JOINT TOW BOARD.

AND IT SAID, UH, THAT THE, THE TOW BOARD CONSIDERS APPLICATIONS AND THEN THERE WAS A VACANCY FOR A CITIZEN REPRESENTATIVE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED BY, UM, A CITIZEN.

SO IT COMES DOWN HERE AND THE PROPOSAL WAS TO APPOINT THIS PERSON.

AND THEN, UM, YOU WANT TO, UH, DISCUSS THIS WITH, UH, YOUR TOWN COUNCIL SO THAT WE'RE ALL APPOINTING THE SAME PERSON? I THINK WE SHOULD, UH, YEAH, I, SO THAT WOULD BE THURSDAY.

OKAY.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S NO ACTION FOR THIS PARTICULAR NO, IT REQUIRE, UM, ITEM.

OKAY.

IT'LL SHOW UP AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS AND WE WILL ADD IT TO THURSDAY'S AGENDA, UH, BY VOICE AT THE MEETING.

AT THE MEETING.

THAT'S CORRECT.

IS EVERYONE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT? I'M ARE WE ALL GOOD? OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

[H.12. Award Recommendation: DSS Vehicle - Alisa Scott, Finance Director]

THANK YOU.

THE NEXT ITEM IS THE AWARD RECOMMENDATION FOR THE DSS VEHICLE.

MS. SCOTT, THE FINANCE AND PURCHASING DEPARTMENT RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES TO PURCHASE A VEHICLE TO PERFORM IN-HOME INSPECTIONS.

THE COUNTY HAS REVIEWED SEVERAL CORPORATE CONTRACTS AND DETERMINED THE COMMONWEALTH'S COOPERATIVE CONTRACT.

E 1 94 DASH 95,022 OFFERS THE MOST COMPETITIVE PRICING THROUGH CARTER MYERS AUTOMOTIVE FOR 1 20 23 NISSAN MURANO AT A FIRM FIXED PRICE OF $32,760.

THIS IS A COOPERATIVE CONTRACT.

THE, UM, DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES WILL PAY FOR THIS VEHICLE UPON DELIVERY.

THEY WILL ISSUE A CHECK TO THE VENDOR.

UH, AND WITH THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I BELIEVE MR. MARCH IS HERE THIS EVENING AS WELL.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE JUSTIFICATION FOR PURCHASE.

WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION WITH THIS.

WHEN IT SAYS THAT THE DSS IS GONNA PAY FOR THIS, I KNOW THEY HAVE A BUDGET, RIGHT? A COUNTY BUDGET CUZ I KNOW WE REVIEWED IT DURING OUR BUDGET CYCLE.

SO IS THERE A LINE ITEM FOR THIS? I MEAN, ARE, ARE, OR IS THIS, WHERE'S THE 32 K COMING FROM? THAT'S SIDE? IS IT COMING FROM A GRANT? IS IT, YOU KNOW, COMING OUTTA YOUR BUDGET? UM, THE CURRENT, YOUR BUDGET, THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO CARS THAT THE BOARD APPROVED FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

SORRY, IN THE CURRENT BUDGET, THE BOARD APPROVED TWO VEHICLES FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.

THIS IS JUST A REQUEST TO PURCHASE ONE MM-HMM.

.

SO IT IS IN THE BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED.

SO WE WOULD SEE IT IN THE ASSET REPLACEMENT ACCOUNT.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

YOU CAN'T HEAR ME? NO.

OKAY.

WANT ME TO TALK LOUD? .

SO DID, SO THESE TWO VEHICLES THAT YOU HAVE PROGRAMMED INTO THE CURRENT BUDGET, WOULD I FIND THOSE ON THE ASSET REPLACEMENT ACCOUNT? YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT PLAN FOR ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS.

I I COULDN'T TELL YOU THAT MA'AM IF OUR VEHICLE'S FALLEN THAT OR NOT.

OKAY.

SO I THINK THEY'RE STATE VEHICLES, AREN'T THEY SIR? THEY'RE THEY WOULD BE COUNTY, IT'S A COUNTY.

THEY'RE COUNTY, COUNTY OWNED, BUT THEY ARE STATE FUNDED.

CORRECT.

SO THEY DON'T COME OUT OF OUR ASSET REPLACEMENT ACCOUNT.

OKAY.

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RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S STATE MONEY.

THEY ARE TECHNICALLY THEY ARE COUNTY VEHICLES, BUT THE STATE FUNDS THEM STATE IS PURCHASING IT.

WELL, THEY'RE GIVING THEM THE FUNDS.

YES.

OKAY.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WOULD THERE BE A BUDGET LINE ITEM ON THE BUDGET FOR THIS? OR IS THAT IT SHOULD BE IN A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT.

IT WAS IN OUR BUDGET.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT FALLS IN.

THE COUNTY'S BUDGET SHOULD BE IN THE BUDGET.

YES.

SO HE SHOULD HAVE A A BUDGET LINE ITEM? YES.

AND, AND THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE IN COST AND FINANCING IT JUST SAYS THE SOCIAL SERVICES GIFT IS PAID FOR THIS VEHICLE AND THEN THEY'LL ISSUE A CHECK.

AND I'M, SO I LOOK AT THIS AND I'M GOING, OKAY, IS THIS OUTTA SCOPE? WITHIN SCOPE, YOU KNOW, SO I'D LIKE TO GOING FORWARD IS IF YOU CAN JUST PUT THE BUDGET LINE ITEM UNDER HERE JUST SO IT, IT JUST, UH, MAKES ME KNOW THAT THIS WAS A PLANNED EXPENDITURE BECAUSE YOUR BUDGET WAS IN IT.

SURE.

SO, SO THIS GOING FORWARD, I I JUST, IT JUST MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR ME TO DO AN ANALYSIS ON, ON THE ACQUISITIONS.

YES MA'AM.

AND SO DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE.

NOPE.

I HAD I THINK THE 1999 TRACER, 1999 FORD TRACER IS WHAT THIS IS GONNA REPLACE.

MM-HMM.

, IT'S ABOUT, UH, WHICH I THINK HE SAID IS DEAD 1999.

ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT BEING SAID, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUTHORIZE THE AWARD AND PURCHASE ORDER TO CARTER MEYER AUTOMOTIVE FOR 1 20 23 NISSAN MURANO FOR $32,760.

I FURTHER MOVE THE BOARD AUTHORIZED THE CHAIR AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, EITHER OF WHO MAY ACT TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OR THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY.

SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. BUTLER.

AYE MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MR. MABE? AYE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

[H.13. Tax Relief for the Elderly - Sherry Sours, Commissioner of the Revenue]

NEXT ITEM IS, UH, ITEM 13, WHICH IS THE TAX RELIEF FOR THE ELDERLY.

MS. SOURS 12.

THEY JUST DID 12 AND MR. HAM DIDN'T KNOW MR. SOURS WASN'T COMING TILL THIS EVENING, SO YEAH.

SURPRISE , IT'S OKAY, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.

SO BIG, BIG PICTURE, UH, WARREN COUNTY HAS FOR YEARS PROVIDED TAX RELIEF FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE OVER AGE 65 AND TOTALLY DISABLED.

AND, UM, PROGRAM WAS ESTABLISHED SOME TIME AGO.

THERE ARE FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS.

UM, CURRENTLY YOU NEED TO MAKE LESS THAN $35,000 TO BE ELIGIBLE AND YOU NEED TO HAVE YOUR NET FINANCIAL WORTH BE LESS THAN $150,000, EXCLUDING THE HOUSE THAT YOU LIVE IN AND UP TO FIVE ACRES OF LAND AROUND THAT HOUSE.

SO THERE IS A, UM, SURVEY OF WHAT DIFFERENT LOCALITIES ARE DOING.

THIS WAS IN YOUR HAVE THAT CHART PACKET FOR YOU TO, TO REVIEW.

SO I'M NOT GONNA TO GO THROUGH THAT TOO MUCH.

SO THERE ARE COUPLE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.

SO WARREN COUNTY CODE 1 60, 14 AND 15 STATE THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS YEAR FOR 2023.

AND SO PART OF THOSE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS IS THAT YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE APPLIED BY APRIL THE FIRST, WHICH OF COURSE THAT DATE HAS PASSED.

AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE LESS THAN $35,000.

AND SO FOR 2023 THERE, THERE ARE, YOU CAN PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TAX RELIEF FOR THOSE WHO'VE ALREADY APPLIED AND WHO ARE ELIGIBLE.

AND SO, ZACH, CAN YOU PUT THAT UP ON THE SCREEN ON A SECOND? UM, THIS DOESN'T WANNA WORK FOR ME RIGHT NOW.

YEAH, MAKE THAT BIGGER PLEASE.

MAYBE GO MAKE, MAKE IT A LOT BIGGER.

.

AND SO THIS IS ALSO IN THE, IN THE COVER SHEET.

SO, UH, THE CHANGE THAT YOU COULD MAKE FOR 2023, UH, AND YOU, YOU CAN MAKE NO CHANGE, BUT WHAT YOU COULD DO IS, AND WHAT IS SUGGESTED HERE IS THE ZERO TO $20,000 WOULD CONTINUE TO BE, UH, PEOPLE WOULD NOT PAY, UH, REAL ESTATE TAX AT THAT INCOME LEVEL WITH THOSE ASSETS.

21 TO 25,000, UM, WOULD CHANGE FROM A 100%, YOU KNOW, NOT PAY TAXES.

INSTEAD OF ONLY PAYING 25% OF THE REAL ESTATE TAX, 25 TO 30,000 WOULD ALSO BE 100%

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UP FROM CURRENTLY PAYING HALF TAXES AND 30 TO 35,000 WOULD BE, UM, 75%, UH, EXEMPT.

SO THEY WOULD ONLY PAY 25% TAXES AND THAT'S UP FOR 25%.

AND SO ZACH, CAN YOU PUT THOSE TWO OPTIONS BACK UP THERE AGAIN? SO I WAS ORIGINALLY PROVIDED, WOULD THIS BE TWO, TWO MOTIONS? JASON? UH, WELL THERE'S, THERE'S ONE MOTION, BUT THERE'S UM, TWO OPTIONS.

THERE'S REALLY TWO THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON HERE.

OKAY.

SO THE, THE FIRST THING IS FOR THIS YEAR.

AND SO THIS IS WHAT YOU COULD DO THIS YEAR IF YOU WANT TO, UM, THOSE NUMBERS YOU NOTICE THAT'S A PRETTY HUGE CHANGE, BUT THOSE NUMBERS COME FROM TWO SUGGESTED OTHER LARGER CHANGES FOR THE FUTURE TO CHANGE THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.

SO IF YOU COULD PUT UP THE NEXT ONE THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE, MAYBE I HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.

MAYBE GO BACK, LET ME GO BACK TO THE POWERPOINT.

YEAH.

AND CAN YOU MAKE THAT BIGGER? SO WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT OPTION TWO IS THE ONE WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THERE.

SO, SO AGAIN, TWO THINGS.

FIRST THING YOU COULD DO IS YOU COULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RELIEF FOR THOSE MAKING LESS THAN $35,000 FOR 2023.

NOW THE SECOND THING YOU COULD DO IF, IF YOU WANT TO, IS TO CHANGE THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN MAKE MORE MONEY IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR TAX RELIEF.

AND THAT COULD NOT BE IMPLEMENTED THIS YEAR.

IT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED NEXT.

UM, ED SUGGESTED THAT THIS ALL BE DONE TOGETHER.

IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE, BUT, BUT CERTAINLY IT CAN BE.

AND SO THAT SECOND CATEGORY OF THINGS, CHANGING THE ELIG ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS, YOU CAN SEE THE FIRST, HAS THIS GOT A, UH, POINTER? NO, I GUESS NOT.

SO THE TOP IS, ARE THE CURRENT RULES.

AND SO WE'LL GO TO THE, UM, CATEGORY THAT TALKS ABOUT EXCLUDES HOUSE AND UP TO FIVE ACRES.

SO CURRENTLY YOU CAN ONLY HAVE, SEE THESE ARE THE SAME NUMBERS THAT ARE ON YOUR SHEET FROM LAST WEEK.

MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

SO THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE SAME NUMBERS.

SO THE, THE CURRENT RULE IS THAT YOU CAN ONLY HAVE A NET WORTH OF $150,000, EXCLUDING YOUR HOUSE AND UP TO FIVE ACRES.

THE, THE TWO OPTIONS, UM, OPTION ONE WOULD INCREASE THAT TO 200 THOU 200,000.

OPTION THREE WOULD IN, UH, INCREASE THAT TO 300,000.

SO BASICALLY MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR TAX RELIEF IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT.

AND THEN OF COURSE YOU CAN SEE THE BRACKETS ARE DIFFERENT BETWEEN OPTIONS ONE AND OPTIONS TWO.

SO THERE ARE THREE SUGGESTED MOTIONS HERE AND UM, WELL GO WITH THE THIRD ONE FIRST CUZ IT'S THE SIMPLEST AND THAT, AND THESE ARE ALL AUTHORIZATIONS TO ADVERTISE BECAUSE ALL OF THESE REQUIRE CHANGES TO YOUR ORDINANCES.

AND BECAUSE YOU'RE A COUNTY, YOU'VE GOTTA ADVERTISE EVERYTHING YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT'S GONNA CHANGE AN ORDINANCE.

SO THE FIRST WOULD BE, OR REALLY THE THIRD WOULD, AND THE SIMPLEST ONE WOULD BE TO ADVERTISE THE CHANGE TO COUNTY CODE SECTION 1 60 17, WHICH IS BASICALLY JUST THE 2023 MATTERS.

SO, UM, YOU STILL HAVE TO MAKE LESS THAN $35,000 TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR TAX RELIEF, BUT YOU WOULD GET MUCH MORE TAX RELIEF.

AND THE REASON THAT THAT'S ALL THEY CAN DO, YOU CAN DO THIS YEAR IS AGAIN, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO THINGS RETROACTIVELY AND THE DEADLINE TO APPLIES ALREADY PASSED.

AND YOU KNOW, THO THOSE WERE THE RULES THAT ON JANUARY 1ST, WHICH IS THE DATE, SO THE, THE TWO OTHER MOTIONS ARE TO DO THAT AND EITHER OPTION ONE, WHICH IS THE FIRST MOTION OR OPTION TWO, WHICH IS THE SECOND MOTION.

AND I'M GUESSING FROM, FROM WHAT ED'S BEEN SAYING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING, UM, OPTION TWO AT, AT PRIOR MEETINGS.

AND THE REASON, UM, THE BOARD HAS SAID ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS THAT THEY WANTED TO DO THIS, THEY WANTED TO MAKE THIS, THESE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE ELIGIBILITY.

AND WE HADN'T REALIZED WHEN I WAS TALKING TO JASON TODAY THAT THIS APRIL 1ST WAS GOING TO BE A CATCHALL THERE.

SO BECAUSE THE BOARD HAS SAID THAT THEY WANTED TO DO THIS, WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO BOTH NOW IN APRIL SO THAT EVERYBODY SEES YOU'RE DOING IT AND NOBODY'S GOING TO SAY, OH, THEY ONLY DID HALF OF WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA DO, ET CETERA, SO THAT YOU COULD SHOW THE WHOLE THING.

THAT WAS THE REASON FOR COMBINED MOTION THERE.

SO AGAIN, THESE ARE AUTHORIZATIONS TO ADVERTISE.

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I MEAN, ANOTHER OPTION THAT YOU HAVE IS WE, WE COULD ADVERTISE ALL OF THIS.

I THINK THAT PROBABLY IS GONNA CREATE SOME CONFUSION IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

SO YEAH, YOU DON'T WANNA DO THAT.

THEY WOULD BE BETTER TO, TO PICK ONE OF THESE, UH, TONIGHT.

UM, AND DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THAT 300,000 OR THE 200,000 THAT'S COMBINED INCOME FROM THE SPOUSES, CORRECT? YES.

THERE, THERE'S I THINK IT'S UM, ASSETS 200,000 AND THE 300 IS COMBINED TO ASSETS.

YES.

ASSETS.

YEAH.

THE, THE INCOME YOU CAN HAVE SOMEONE LIVING IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD THAT EARNS THE INCOME'S OVER HERE'S A TEENY AMOUNT OF EXTRA MONEY.

RIGHT? BUT EVEN THAT IT'S ALL COMBINED.

YES, MA'AM.

YES MA'AM.

SO MR. HAM, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT WE VOTE ON OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THE RESULTS OF OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO IN THE CURRENT TAX YEAR.

THEY'LL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 24 BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY PASSED THE, UM, THE TIMEFRAME TO APPLY AND SO FORTH.

THAT'S MOSTLY TRUE, BUT OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO INCLUDE CHANGES TO THE AMOUNTS OF EXEMPTIONS.

SO EITHER OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO ALSO WOULD INCLUDE THE INCREASED TAX RELIEF FOR THIS VERY YEAR.

SO BASICALLY WHAT WE CAN'T DO IS SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, NOW YOU CAN BE ELIGIBLE FOR TAX RELIEF IF YOU MAKE $40,000 INSTEAD OF 35.

WE, WE CAN'T DO THAT.

BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS SAY, OKAY, IF YOU'RE ALREADY ELIGIBLE AND YOU'VE ALREADY APPLIED, WE CAN GIVE YOU MORE TAX RELIEF.

OKAY.

SO THE CURRENT APPLICANTS WOULD BE ABLE TO THE CURRENT, YOU CAN PROVIDE TAX RELIEF TO CURRENT APPLICANTS? YES.

OKAY.

AND YOU CAN PROVIDE TAX RELIEF TO MORE PEOPLE THAT BY INCREASING THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS FOR NEXT YEAR.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I UNDERSTAND THAT NOW.

YEAH, IT TOOK ME A MINUTE.

WHEW.

YEAH, FOR A WHILE, WE TALKED A WHILE.

YEAH, WE TALKED ABOUT CHASING MY TAIL IN THE BACKYARD.

.

SO, SO THOSE THAT WERE NOT ELIGIBLE BEFORE BUT NOW ARE UNDER THE NEW RULES, THEY'RE THEY HAVE TO WAIT TILL 2024.

EXACTLY.

YOU GOT IT.

BUT THOSE THAT ARE ELIGIBLE NOW YOU CAN, IF YOU'VE PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RELIEF IF YOU'VE ALREADY APPLIED.

CORRECT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

BECAUSE YOU, YOU, THIS BOARD CANNOT GO BACK AND RETROACTIVELY DO THINGS.

SO IF WE WANTED TO DO EVERYTHING FOR, FOR 2023, WE SHOULD HAVE DONE IT IN 2022.

WE DIDN'T HAVE THE OPTIONS.

UH, WELL THAT'S CORRECT.

WE DIDN'T, WE DID NOT REALIZE THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE IT TO YOU BEFORE DECEMBER 31.

YES, THAT'S, WE DID THAT, SIR.

THAT'S OUR FAULT.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CERTAINLY.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WHEN YOU SAY 2023, WE'RE TALKING CALENDAR YEAR 2023 CALENDAR YEAR 2020.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

YES.

IT'S A WONDERFUL CONFUSION WITH TAXES BEING PAID ON IT ON A CALENDAR YEAR AND YOUR MONEY COMING IN OFF ON A PHYSICAL YEAR.

I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, MR. HAM.

SO IF THE PROPOSED MOTION ON OUR COVER SHEET IS THAT WE APPROVE THE OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO, BUT IN ADDITION WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE, UM, THE PUBLIC HEARING ADVERTISEMENT AS WELL.

YOU'RE AUTHORIZING THIS FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

YEAH.

YOU'RE NOT APPROVING ANYTHING TONIGHT OTHER THAN AUTHORIZING A PUBLIC HEARING.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS SUGGESTED MOTION IS.

SO, OKAY, WELL THERE ARE TWO VERSIONS OF THE COVER SHEET IN THIS PACKET.

SO THERE, THERE IS AN UPDATED COVER SHEET VERSION UNDERSTAND, AND I DON'T, AND AND IT'S ONLINE RIGHT NOW AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT IS, JUST CONFUSE THE HECK OUTTA ME.

BUT THE CORRECT ONE IS IN THERE AND THAT IS, IF IT'S OPTION TWO, I MOVE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR BE AUTHORIZED TO ADVERTISE COUNTY CODE SECTION 1 60 17 FOR IMPLEMENTATION IMPLEMENTATION IN 2023 AND OP OPTION TWO FOR IMPLEMENTATION IN 2024 FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

AND SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE A MOTION THAT WOULD BE THE, YOU YOU MADE THE MOTION.

SO CAN WE SEC SOMEBODY SOMEBODY SECOND THE OR SOMEBODY AGREE TO IT? .

SO MOVED.

THERE WE GO.

SECOND, SECOND.

ROLL CALL MR. BUTLER.

AYE MRS. COLORS? AYE MADAM CHAIR? AYE MRS. OATS? AYE MR. MABE? AYE.

GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

THE OLDER CITIZENS WILL APPRECIATE THIS VERY MUCH HAVE THIS WITH YOU.

ANYWAY, I WAS LIKE, WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE WE TALKING? OKAY, SO THOSE, THOSE WERE THE ITEMS THAT WE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SO NOW WE'RE

[I. Adoption of Resolution to Set Percentage of Tax Relief for Personal Property (Motor Vehicles) for 2023 Tax Year]

GONNA GO INTO ITEM I, WHICH IS THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION TO SET PERCENTAGE OF TAX RELIEF FOR PERSONAL PROPERTY, UM, FOR THE 2023 TAX SHARE.

AND THAT WAS

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MS. SOS.

AND SHE'S NOT HERE TODAY.

SHE IS NOT, SHE IS BEAUTIFUL DOWNTOWN STANTON THIS EVENING, MA'AM.

AND UH, SO YOU HAVE THE RESOLUTION NOW AND IF I CAN GET IT OPEN ON THIS THING, MR. HENDERSON.

THERE WE GO.

UH, SHE HAS CALCULATED, AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED BEFORE, THAT THE, UH, PERCENTAGE KEEPS DROPPING, UM, BECAUSE THE STATE HAS NOT KEPT UP WITH ITS OBLIGATION AND WE'RE NOW DOWN TWO 25%.

SO DR.

DALEY, UH, THE AVERAGE PERSON'S NOT GONNA UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE CLARITY ON THAT IN THAT, UM, UNDER PREVIOUS LEGISLATION, THE STATE AGREED TO PROVIDE TAX RELIEF TO CITIZENS IN A PERCENTAGE OF THEIR TOTAL PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.

UM, PARTICULARLY WELL VEHICLE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.

AND ORIGINALLY IT WAS, I GUESS AT ITS HIGHEST IT WAS ABOUT WHAT, 68%? 70% MA'AM? 70%.

AND THAT MEANT YOU PAID 30% OF THE TAX BILL AND THE STATE UNDERWROTE THE OTHER PIECE OF IT, WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING IS REDUCING THEIR PORTION SLOWLY CHIPPING AWAY AT WHAT YOU EARNED .

SO YES MA'AM, IT'S TRUE.

AND UH, THIS IS AN AREA WHERE I, YOU KNOW, I I I BELIEVE AS A, AN ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT THESE ARE ARTIFICIAL NUMBERS ANYWAY, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN SELL YOUR CARS FOR WHAT THESE BOOK VALUES SAY THEY'RE WORTH.

SO, UM, IT'S MY OPINION THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE RECONSIDERED AND REDONE, BUT WE HAVE TO DO THAT AT THE STATE LEVEL.

IT DOESN'T HAPPEN HERE.

YES IT DOES.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO RIGHT NOW IT'S ONLY 25% TAX RELIEF ON VEHICLES VALUED AT $1,001 UP TO $20,000 AND 20, OH EVEN OVER $20,000.

IT'S NOW JUST 25%.

IT'S, IT'S STINKING MAN.

AND IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS BUDGET, WHAT HAPPENS, SIR? IF WE DON'T APPROVE IT, WHAT HAP WHAT WHAT HAPPENS THEN? THEY DON'T GET THE TAX RELIEF.

THEY AS IN OUR CITIZEN AS CITIZEN, SORRY, BILLS GO OUT WITH NO STATE 5% ON IT.

MERIT.

YEAH.

THIS IS JUST A REQUIRED RESOLUTION FOR YOU TO ACCEPT WHAT THE STATE IS OFFERING.

MRS. SOURS COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT IT, THE, THE NUMBER IS WHAT IT IS.

AND THIS ISN'T A NUMBER SET BY THE COUNTY.

THIS IS THE NUMBER SET BY THE STATE.

THIS IS SET BY THE STATE.

CORRECT.

THEY CAPPED IT A LONG TIME AGO NOW AND THEY HAVE NOT REVISITED THIS AND, AND RAISED IT.

SO I WILL MAKE THE MOTION.

WE HAVE, I MEAN WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.

NO, THERE IS NO CHOICE HERE.

IT'S, IT'S EITHER 25% OR NOTHING.

.

UH, SO TOOK ME A MINUTE TO GET THAT .

I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF I MOVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE AND ADOPT THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION TO SET A PER PERCENTAGE OF TAX RELIEF FOR THE 2023 YEAR TAX YEAR AT A LEVEL OF 25% THAT IS ANTICIPATED TO EXHAUST PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF FUNDS PROVIDED TO WARREN COUNTY BY THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA AS AUTHORIZED BY WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTION ONE 60 DASH ONE OH NINE.

SECOND RULE CALL PLEASE MR. MABE.

AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE MR. SKYS? AYE MR. BUTLER? AYE.

THANK YOU.

[J. • Adoption of Resolution Approving Receipt and Disbursement of Virginia Outdoors Foundation(VOF) Preservation Trust Fund - Easement Assistance Funds, Partner Agreement between VOF and Warren County, Pass-Through Funding Agreement with Virginia Conservation Council, Inc. (VCC) and Shane C. Cook for Shane Cook Gift of Conservation Easements expenses.]

ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM IS, UH, ITEM J AND IT'S MOUTHFUL.

BE PATIENT WITH ME.

THIS IS THE ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING RECEIPT AND DISBURSEMENT OF VIRGINIA OUTDOORS FOUNDATION FOUNDATION PRESERVATION TRUST FUND, EASEMENT ASSISTANT FUNDS PARTNER AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE VIRGINIA OUTDOORS FOUNDATION AND WARREN COUNTY PASS THROUGH FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH VIRGINIA CONSERVATION COUNCIL.

AND SHANE C COOK FOR SHANE COOK GIF OF CONSERVATION EASEMENT EXPENSES.

MR. WELDING? WELL IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE MR. HAM.

OH, IT'S GONNA BE MR. HAM.

OKAY.

I MEAN YOU CAN, I CAN SIT DOWN AND WE CAN MAKE HIM NERVOUS.

RIGHT.

, HE'S ACTUALLY MR. BOWMAN, THIS TONIGHT'S MA'AM.

YEAH, I'M MR. BOWMAN.

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SO THAT MEANS I'M MUCH SMARTER IF, IF YOU, IF YOU ASK MR. BOWMAN.

SO, UM, IF YOU RECALL THE COUNTY ACCEPTED THREE DEEDS OF CONSERVATION EASEMENTS BACK IN DECEMBER AND, UM, UNKNOWN TO US AT THE TIME, UH, WELL OBVIOUSLY KNOWN TO US WAS THAT MR. COOK, THE PERSON WHO GRANTED THE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS HAS TO PAY HIS LAWYER TO DRAFT THOSE AND GO THROUGH HIS PROCESS AND POSSIBLY AN ACCOUNTANT TOO.

AND SO, UH, THERE IS A, UH, STATE AGENCY THAT GRANTED WANTED TO GRANT HIM $30,000 TO REIMBURSE HIM FOR THOSE COSTS WITH THE IDEA BEING THAT IT'S IN THE PUBLIC GOOD, THAT CONSERVATION EASEMENTS BE ACCEPTED, UM, TO PROVIDE FOR CONSERVATION.

UH, MONEY DOESN'T COME FROM THE COUNTY.

UH, BUT THE STATE AGENCY WANTED TO GIVE IT TO THE COUNTY OR, OR WAS STATUTORILY REQUIRED TO GIVE IT TO THE COUNTY AND THEN WE WERE SUPPOSED TO JUST GIVE IT TO HIM.

WELL YOU COULD, WE COULD HAVE GIVEN IT TO HIM IN TERMS OF, OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT, WE'LL PAY YOU $30,000 FOR IT.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED CUZ WE ALREADY HAVE IT.

AND A COUNTY CAN'T JUST GIVE MONEY TO AN INDIVIDUAL.

YOU'VE GOTTA GET SOMETHING IN RETURN.

SO, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU REMEMBER IN THE ALL THAT COVID MONEY, ET CETERA, WE USED THE, UH, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

I MEAN, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO GIVE AWAY MONEY TO CHARITIES, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT ARE DOING, UH, PUBLIC GOOD PROJECTS, BUT NOT IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE.

SO, UM, WE'VE BEEN FIDDLE WITH THIS FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND BASICALLY WHAT YOU CAN DO THOUGH IS TO GIVE MONEY AWAY TO A CHARITY.

SO WE HAVE WHAT THESE TWO, UH, WHAT THIS, UH, RESOLUTION DOES IS IT AUTHORIZES THE SIGNING OF TWO AGREEMENTS.

ONE OF 'EM IS BETWEEN US AND THE VIRGINIA OUTDOORS FOUNDATION, UH, ESSENTIALLY TO, TO ACCEPT THESE GRANT FUNDS, UM, AND THEN TO BE PASSING IT THROUGH TO, TO MR. COOK ULTIMATELY THROUGH THE INTERMEDIARY.

AND THE SECOND IS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE INTERMEDIARY ORGANIZATION, THE, UM, VIRGINIA CONSERVATION COUNCIL, WHERE ESSENTIALLY THE COUNTY WILL DONATE THESE FUNDS UNDER THIS VIRGINIA STATUTE, UH, 15.2 9 53, WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO DONATE MONEY TO NONPROFITS.

SO IT'S A NONPROFIT EXISTS FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY GIVE IT TO MR. COOK.

SO IT'S A CONVOLUTED WAY TO GET AROUND, UH, UH, TO COMPLY WITH THE RULES, UH, HERE, UH, AND ULTIMATELY TO PAY FOR MR. COOK'S LEGAL FEES, UH, BECAUSE THE COUNTY WANTED THESE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS DOES.

AND SO IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, UM, YOU WOULD APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION, UH, AND THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZES UH, DR.

DALEY TO SIGN THE TWO AGREEMENTS THAT IMPLEMENT THAT PLAN.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY DISCUSSION? NOPE.

SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION, OUR MOTION THAT THE WARREN COUNTY BORDER SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE RECEIPT AND DISBURSEMENT OF PRESERVATION TRUST FUND AND EASEMENT ASSISTANT FUNDS IDENTIFIED IN THE PARTNER AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE VIRGINIA OUTDOORS FOUNDATION AND THEN THE, AND WARREN COUNTY AND THE PASS THROUGH FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH VIRGINIA CONSERVATION COUNTY INCORPORATED IN SHANE C COOK FOR THE DISBURSEMENT OF GRANT FUNDING TO MR. COOK FOR ELIGIBLE EXPENSES HE HAS INCURRED FOR THE THREE GIFTS OF CONSERVATION EASEMENTS ACCEPTED BY THE COUNTY OF WARREN.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE SECOND? SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. BUTLER? AYE.

MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MADAME CHAIR? AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MR. MABE? AYE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

NEXT

[K. Purchase of Real Property Located at 4561 John Marshall Hwy. (Fire Station #4) and Certain Tangible Personal Property]

ITEM IS THE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 45 61 JOHN MARSHALL HAR HIGHWAY FIRE STATION FOUR AND CERTAIN TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY, MS. JORDAN.

GOOD EVENING.

THE VOLUNTEER, THE LINDEN VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE COUNTY HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSION FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS NOW ABOUT THE COUNTY PURCHASING, UM, THE STATION.

NUMBER FOUR, THE FIREHOUSE LOCATED DOWN JOHN MARSHALL HIGHWAY AS WELL AS CERTAIN TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTIES, UM, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THEIR, UM, A TRUCK AND AN APPARATUS I BELIEVE, UM, BACK IN OCTOBER, IF THE BOARD REMEMBERS, THE BOARD DID APPROVE A ME, AN M O U THAT WAS BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE VOL LANDON VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT ALLOWED THE COUNTY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MAKING REPAIRS AND ALTERATIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE STATION IN ANTICIPATION THAT THE COUNTY WOULD EVENTUALLY PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY.

UM, THE LEND AND VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT BOARD AND THEIR MEMBERSHIP HAVE MET, VOTED AND APPROVED THE AGREEMENT OF PURCHASE AND SELL, WHICH WAS PROVIDED TO YOU IN YOUR PACKET.

AND SO NOW WE ARE ASKING THAT

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THE BOARD WOULD APPROVE THE, UM, WOULD APPROVE THAT AGREEMENT SO IT THE PURCHASE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, MOVE FORWARD TO CLOSING.

MM-HMM.

AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MAY HAVE.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

MM-HMM.

AND BECAUSE I RECALL AS UH, UH, GOING BACK AND DOING ALL OF THESE AGREEMENTS, BUT THE PURCHASE PRICE, HAS THAT CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME WE HAD OUR DISCUSSION? NO, MA'AM.

THE PURCHASE PRICE WAS THE COMBINATION OF WHAT WAS OWED OUT THERE FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ITEMS. MM-HMM.

TO CLEAR EVERYTHING.

OKAY.

SO IT CAN BE A CLEAN TITLE? YEAH.

OKAY.

BECAUSE I KNOW WE TALKED MONEY, WE HAD A LIST OF, IT'S ABOUT 316, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT CANNOT EXCEED $319,909 AND 12 CENTS.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT THE AGREEMENT THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED.

MM-HMM.

STATES.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND THAT WILL GO TO PAY THEIR BILLS.

IT DOESN'T, THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA DO.

IT'S GONNA PAY OFF THE BILLS.

SO, SO THEY CAN THEN THEY'RE DONE.

SO DO WE PAY THAT TO THEM AND THEN THEY PAY THEIR BILLS OR WE PAY IT DIRECTLY TO THE BILL HOLDERS OR? IT'S GONNA BE A COMBINATION.

OKAY.

IT'S GONNA BE A COMBINATION THERE.

MOST OF IT'S, IT'S GONNA GO TO THE DEED HOLDERS AND THAT, CUZ THERE'S A DEED ON THE TRUCK OUT THERE.

WELL, THERE'S, UM, THIS IS FOR A NOTE SECURED BY CREDIT LINE DEED OF TRUST DATED NOVEMBER 10TH, UM, THAT THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS WITH BB AND T.

AND THEN THE OTHER NOTE, UM, IS ANOTHER SECURED NOTE BY A CREDIT LINE DEED OF TRUSTEE DATED JANUARY 30TH, 2015.

THAT IS BETWEEN THEM AND I'M MICHAEL BRIAN.

BUT IT IT, BECAUSE THEY DID CONSOLIDATE THEIR DEBT, THE DEBT THAT THEY HAD ON THE, THE FIRE STATION ITSELF, PLUS THE PERSONAL PROPERTY THAT THEY HAD, THEY HAVE CONSOLIDATED THAT UNDER ONE NOTE.

SO IN SIMPLER TERMS IT'S A FIRST AND THE SECOND WE'RE PAYING IT OFF SO THEY CAN BALANCE OUT AND SO THEY CAN BALANCE OUT SO THEY CAN WALK AWAY CLEAN.

CORRECT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION CHAIR? I NEED ADAM CHAIR.

I MOVE THE BOARD TO SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF THE REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 45 61 JOHN MARSHALL HIGHWAY, LYNDON, VIRGINIA, ALSO KNOWN AS TAX MA TAX MAP PARCEL NUMBER 31 18 D AND THE IDENTIFIED TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY.

I FURTHER MOVED THE BOARD TO AUTHORIZE THE CHAIR AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, EITHER OF WHOM MAY ACT TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OR THE SENIOR ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY TO PURCHASE A REAL PROPERTY AND IDENTIFIED TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY FOR A PURCHASE PRICE NOT TO EXCEED $319,909 AND 12 CENTS ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. MABE.

AYE.

MRS. OS? AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE.

MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MR. BUTLER? AYE.

THANK YOU.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT ITEM IS

[L. Authorization to Advertise Public Hearing - FY23-24 Proposed Tax Rate(s)]

AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE PUBLIC HEARING FOR FISCAL YEAR 2324 PROPOSED TAX RATES.

MS. DR.

DALEY .

THANK YOU MA'AM.

UH, REMEMBER LAST WEEK WE TALKED THAT OUR, UH, WHEN MRS. SOS WAS HERE, THAT OUR EQUALIZED RATE IS 49 CENTS AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU INSERT THAT INTO THIS.

YOU HAVE ALL THE RATES FROM THE SANITARY DISTRICTS AND ALL OF THE OTHER RATES REMAIN THE SAME.

AND THIS JUST SCHEDULES THE PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT FOR THE SECOND SO THAT, UH, MRS. HOURS CAN START ON THE THIRD.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS ON THIS? CAN YOU REFRESH? UM, MY MEMORY AT LEAST, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE NEEDS THEIRS REFRESHED.

UM, THE 49 CENTS KEEPS US FLAT WITH REVENUE INCOME.

SO THE, UM, I KNOW WE TALKED SEVERAL DIFFERENT NUMBERS AND YEAH, WE HAD A SHEET LIKE THIS WE LOOKED AT AND WHAT SHE DID IT, WHAT THEY DID THERE WAS THEY TAKE THE PREVIOUS YEAR, TOTAL

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REAL ESTATE TAX LEVY OF 31,723,000.

24,000.

AND THEY MULTIPLY THAT TIMES 1.01, WHICH IS 32 MILLION, 41,000.

AND THEN THEY TAKE THE TOTAL LAND TAXABLE ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS 6.9 BILLION AND THEY DE DETRACT, SUBTRACT FROM IT, THE LAND DEFERRED LAND USE, WHICH IS 382 MILLION AND THEY SUBTRACT 50 MILLION FROM THAT, WHICH, AND THEN NEW CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS 69 MILLION, LEAVING A NET OF 6,530 MILLION.

AND THEN THEY DIVIDE THAT BY THE 32 0 4 1, THE 32 MILLION THAT WE HAD BACK UP HERE.

AND THAT COMES OUT TO 49.06.

AND WE FELT THAT, SO THE 49.06 WOULD BE THE ELIGIBLE RATE AND WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU TAKE 49 RATHER THAN ADDING THE OH SIX 50 CENTS WOULD BE A HIGHER RATE AND THAT WOULD GAIN 600, $11,000, 48 CENTS IS A LOWER RATE AND IT WOULD BE A LOSS OF $695,000.

SO WE RECOMMENDED THE RATE IN THE MIDDLE OF 49.

THANK YOU.

SO WITH THE, WITH THE RECOMMENDED RATE OF 49 SINCE, UH, AND I KNOW THAT THAT 0.06 IS NOT THAT MUCH, BUT HOW MUCH WILL THAT, UH, DROP THIS DOWN? 40.

IT MEANS 40, UH, WE'RE LEAVING 41,000 ON THE TABLE, SIR.

OKAY.

AND WE'LL THAT'LL FIT IN THE BOX.

WE'LL MAKE IT WORK.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DISCUSSIONS? YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP, UM, A CONCERN.

SO I, I AM ALL FOR REVENUE NEUTRAL, BUT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN ISSUE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT 335 HOUSES COULD BE BUILT.

AT WHICH POINT WE WILL NOT RECEIVE.

WE ARE AT THE PROPOSED PROFFER RATE.

RIGHT NOW IT'S 42 47 A HOUSE THAT IS, IF AFTER SO MANY HOUSES ARE BUILT, A HUNDRED PER 12 MONTH PERIOD, UH, WOULD BE 1.4 MILLION TO THE COUNTY.

I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT BETWEEN SCHOOLS AND FIRE AND RESCUE, THAT THAT IS THE PROVERBIAL DROP IN THE BUCKET.

.

YES MA'AM.

AND, AND I WANT TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE I WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT THE SUPERVISORS HAVE MADE A HUGE EFFORT TO KEEP THIS TAX RATE REVENUE NEUTRAL.

WE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS, BUT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER DEVELOPERS WHO COME IN HERE PROPOSE TO BUILD 300 IN 35 HOUSES, NOT GIVE THE COUNTY ENOUGH MONEY TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT 335 HOUSES.

AND I JUST WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE DECISIONS MADE BY, AND I, I FEEL FOR OUR TOWN COUNCIL BECAUSE THESE GUYS HAVE TO MAKE THESE TOUGH DECISIONS.

BUT THOSE DECISIONS IMPACT COUNTY RESIDENTS IN A SIGNIFICANT WAY.

AND WE AREN'T GIVEN A WHOLE LOT OF INPUT INTO THOSE DECISIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT IT'S GONNA DO TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE TAX ISSUES IN WARREN COUNTY.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT POINT.

BUT WE ARE MAKING EVERY EFFORT TO KEEP IT NEUTRAL.

AND I WOULD BRING THAT UP AT YOUR LIAISON MEETING BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND THE, THE REVENUES GOING TO THE TOWN ARE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THE REVENUES GOING TO THE COUNTY.

AND THE COUNTY'S THE ONE WHO'S GOT THE BILLS.

WELL, THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS THAT THE, THE TOWN RECEIVE 700 OR $7,910 FOR EVERY DETACHED HOME AND 6,000 39 72 FOR EVERY, UH, UNATTACHED HOME.

AND WE ARE GIVEN 42 47.

AND YET, SO IF YOU DO THE MATH ON HOW MANY CHILDREN IN WARREN COUNTY, IF YOU DO THE MATH, IT COSTS ABOUT $16,000, $15,000 RIGHT NOW TO EDUCATE EVERY CHILD, 335 HOUSES DO THE MATH.

THERE'S NO WAY THAT THERE'S HOW MANY MS. LOGAN, I'M GONNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

HOW MANY CHILDREN

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IN 335 HOMES WOULD YOU ESTIMATE WOULD BE IN THAT? DO YOU HAVE ANY EARTHLY IDEA? AT LEAST, AT LEAST 700.

YOU RAN THE MODEL.

I, I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

SO, ALRIGHT.

WOULD IT BE SAFE TO SAY THAT IF WE DID ONE PER HOUSEHOLD, 335 KIDS COULD COME OUT OF THAT SUBDIVISION? PARTICULARLY IF THERE ARE TOWN HOMES ATTACHED IS MORE THAN KIDS.

PARDON ME? THE ATTACHED IS MORE KIDS THAN THE BE CASHED AS YOU WOULD EXPECT.

OKAY.

BUT I DUNNO, I'M SORRY MRS. LOGAN, I I DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON, CAN YOU STEP UP? EVERYONE'S KIND OF LIKE COME UP HERE AND TALK , SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE, THE NUMBER.

CAUSE I RAN THE MODEL, BUT, UM, THE TOWNHOUSE AND I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE WHEN I RAN THE MODEL THAT THE, THEY ACTUALLY, THEY SAY A SPLIT IN THE PROFFER, BUT, BUT THERE IS SOMETHING IN THERE THAT SAYS ALL OF THEM COULD BE TOWN HOMES.

SO WHEN I RAN THE MODEL, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY ALL BE TOWN HOMES.

SO I'M GONNA BE SAFE AND SAY I'M JUST GONNA JUST, I DON'T, I DO NOT THINK IT IS ONE PER PER UNIT.

NO, ONE IT'S NOT.

OKAY, LET'S JUST SAY WE'LL BE, WE'LL WE'LL GO ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE AND WE'LL SAY $15,000 PER STUDENT, PER A HUNDRED STUDENTS.

THAT'S STILL A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY PER YEAR.

PROFFERS ARE ONE TIME SHOT, 1.5 MILLION IS A ONE OR 1.4 MILLION IS A ONE TIME SHOT.

SO IT, WE WILL NOT BE EVEN COMING CLOSE TO EDUCATING HUNDRED KIDS.

I THINK YOU HAVE TO ALSO PUT, THAT'S HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO EDUCATE THEM ONCE THE BUILDING HAS BEEN BUILT.

AND THAT WILL REQUIRE A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CUZ OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS ARE MAXED OUT.

YEAH, I ABSOLUTELY KNOW WHAT WAS, WHAT IS BEING PROFFERED DOES NOT, DOES NOT MEET WHAT OUR MODEL OUR NEEDS ARE.

RIGHT.

WHAT THE FISCAL IMPACT WAS GOING TO BE ON, ON, UM, SCHOOLS AND PARKS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE, THAT'S WHAT WE CALCULATE IN OUR MODEL.

BUT WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, WE CAN, UM, ADD THIS TO OUR AGENDA FOR ON THURSDAY.

ABSOLUTELY.

IF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS IT BECAUSE IT, YOU SHOULD.

IT'S A HUGE IMPACT.

AND I JUST WANT TO HEAR WHAT OUR, OUR COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES THINK ABOUT.

I MEAN, THEY UNDERSTAND.

I CAN TELL YOU I'VE SPOKEN WITH THEM AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A HUGE IMPACT PARTICULARLY TO SCHOOLS.

UM, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IN THE TIMEFRAME THAT IT'S GOING TO BE NECESSARY TO EDUCATE THESE CHILDREN.

SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO WEIGH IN ON THAT TONIGHT BECAUSE WE HAVE MADE EVERY EFFORT TO KEEP WARREN COUNTY GOVERNMENT'S TAXES LOW OR AT LEAST NEUTRAL.

AND WE HAVE DONE, WE'VE CUT BUDGETS AND WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE'VE CAN.

WE'VE ENCOURAGED OUR, UH, DEPARTMENT HEADS TO DO WHAT THEY CAN AND, BUT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THIS IF 335 HOMES ARE APPROVED.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO IT? UH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE 335 HOMES, IF YOU FIGURE THAT, UH, THEY'RE, UH, THAT THEY COULD BE VALUED SOMEWHERE AROUND, YOU KNOW, $350,000 A PIECE AND THERE'S 300 AND 350 HOMES.

I HAVE 49 40 9 CENTS.

THAT'S ABOUT, UH, CLOSE TO $600,000 THAT THE, THAT THE COUNTY WILL BE BRINGING IN.

SO IT'S, SO WE DON'T ONCE, SO THAT'S, I'M SORRY, ONCE NO, NO, NO.

THAT'S PER YEAR.

OKAY.

THE, UM, YOU TALKED QUICK, SORRY.

YEAH, SO THE, UH, UH, ANYWAY, IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A, A, A TOTAL LOSS THERE, BUT I DO SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SO, UM, JUST SO THE, A GO AHEAD.

SORRY.

BY MAY, MA'AM FOR JUST NOT TO INTERRUPT, BUT THE $600,000, SIR MM-HMM.

, THAT'LL SUPPORT 15 KIDS.

WELL, AND THAT DOESN'T PAY FOR A FIRETRUCK, DOESN'T PAY FOR ANY FIRETRUCKS, DOESN'T PAY FOR ANY SHERIFF'S OFFICERS, ANYBODY ELSE, BUT IT WILL PAY FOR 15 KIDS TO GO TO SCHOOL.

THE OTHER 85, THEY'RE NOT GOING BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY FOR 'EM.

WELL, MAYBE IT'S TIME FOR VOUCHERS.

YES.

.

AND, AND IT'S KNOWN .

MAYBE WE SHOULD PUT THAT INTO THE MODEL .

WELL, IT'S KNOWN, THE AVERAGE, UM, MR. BUTLER IS FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT YOU TAKE IN, YOU SPEND A DOLLAR AND 5 CENTS TO PROVIDE THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO IT, WE YOU NEVER BREAK EVEN ON ANY OF THAT SORT OF THING.

SO, NO, I I WASN'T SUGGESTING THAT.

BUT IT'S NOT A, IT'S A, NOT A TOTAL

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LOSS.

NO .

AND, AND I, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING RIGHT NOW THAT, UH, RIGHT NOW WE CAN PAY THE BILLS, BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT INCREASING THE, THE, UH, THE NEEDS FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT LATER ON WE MAY HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT AT INCREASING THAT, UH, THE, UH, THE, THE TAX RATE.

BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, I, YEAH, SO THAT'S NEED A MOTION, MA'AM? YES.

SO IS THERE A MOTION? SO WE NEED TO PUT A RATE IN THAT.

PUT, PUT PUT A RATE IN THERE AND MAKE A, AUTHORIZE US TO ADVERTISE PLEASE.

AND AT THIS POINT, IF WHEN WE DO THAT, WE STILL CAN CHANGE THAT RATE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YOU CAN GO DOWN, YOU CANNOT GO UP.

OKAY.

SO WHEN YOU SET THE RATE 49, YOU COULD DECIDE SOMETHING LOWER, BUT YOU CANNOT GO UP UNLESS YOU HAVE ANOTHER HEARING.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BETWEEN NOW AND THE HEARING, IF WE HEARD FROM A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE THAT THEY THOUGHT IT WAS TOO LOW, WHICH I'M NOT SAYING I'M JUST THROWING HYPOTHETICALS OUT THERE, FOLKS.

YEAH.

THAT, THAT'S AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, IT COULD CHANGE THAT NIGHT.

BUT AFTER THAT NIGHT WHEN WE VOTED IN, IT'S A DONE DEAL EXCEPT WE GO DOWN VOTED IN.

OKAY.

UH, WOULD REMIND YOU THAT WE ARE ON A TIME SCHEDULE.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTA GET THE RATE TO THE COMMISSIONER SO IT CAN GO TO THE TREASURER SO THE BILL CAN BE MAILED SO WE CAN GET THOSE TAX DOLLARS IN FOR THIS YEAR'S BUDGET BEFORE JUNE 30TH.

OKAY.

SORRY.

WELL, I WILL MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUTHORIZE A PUBLIC HEARING.

OH, OH, I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY, MS. CALLER SEVEN, MR. SO THE, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE, IF WE RAISE THE RATE THAT WE'VE GOTTA TO, UM, HAVE ANOTHER HEARING AND, UH, YES, SIR.

BUT IF WE, BUT, UH, LET'S SAY THAT WE, WE DECIDE THAT WE'RE GONNA GO WITH, WITH 51 CENTS MM-HMM.

, AND THEN LATER ON, YOU KNOW, AT THE, AT THIS HEARING, WE'D SAY, NO, WE'LL GO WITH 49.

UH, IF WE SAY 51 TONIGHT, DOES THAT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE? WELL, THAT MEANS IF YOU SAY 51 TONIGHT, THEN THAT IS WHAT WILL BE ADVERTISED.

AND THAT WAS WHAT PEOPLE WILL COME TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT.

OKAY.

IF YOU ADVERTISE 49, THEN THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE EXPECT THE RATE TO BE, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WILL COME TO TALK ABOUT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW.

SO THANK YOU.

THE BOARD HAS, THE BOARD HAS BEEN COMMITTED TO A REVENUE NEUTRAL RATE.

YES.

YES.

SO, DR.

DALEY, I THOUGHT THAT WE HAD UNDERSTOOD, I UNDERSTOOD THAT IF WE KEPT IT REVENUE NEUTRAL, 49 CENTS, WE WOULDN'T NEED A PUBLIC HEARING.

BUT YOU HAVE OTHER TAXES SUCH AS YOUR SANITARY FEES AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM ALL ADVERTISED IN ONE.

OKAY.

LUMP SUM.

ALL RIGHT.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

I, OTHERWISE THE 49 WOULD NOT NEED TO BE ADVERTISED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, MS. CALLERS.

OKAY.

I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUTHORIZE A PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:00 PM TUESDAY, MAY 2ND TO CONSIDER THE ENCLOSED TAX RATES FOR THE 2023 YEAR, INCLUDING A REAL ESTATE RATE OF 49 CENTS.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. MABE.

AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE MR. SCHOLARS? AYE.

MR. BUTLER? AYE.

THANK YOU.

[M. Addition of Human Resources Associate Position, Job Description and Grade Placement]

OKAY, NEXT ITEM IS, UM, AN ADDITIONAL, EXCUSE ME, ADDITION OF A HUMAN RESOURCE, ASSOCIATE POSITION, JOB DESCRIPTION AND GRADE PLACEMENT.

MS. MEADOWS, I WANNA REMIND THE BOARD OF GEORGE WASHINGTON PLUNKETT, WHO ALWAYS SAID OF TAMMANY HALL, I SEEN ME OPPORTUNITIES AND I TOOK THEM.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY.

SO IF YOU'VE COME INTO THE ADMIN OFFICE LATELY, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THAT MR. HENDERSON, WITH THE UNDERTAKING OF THE DEPUTY CLERK POSITION, HE'S STILL MAINTAINING THE OFFICE MANAGER POSITIONS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE AN OPEN POSITION IN ADMIN AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMBINE THAT OPEN POSITION INTO A HYBRID OF WHAT I'M REQUESTING FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

SO WE WOULD COMBINE THE HR AS ASSOCIATE BASICALLY INTO THE ADMIN POSITION AND THE RISK MANAGER POSITION.

SO IT'D BE A HYBRID OF THOSE TWO POSITIONS AND WE'D BE BACK FILLING IT INTO THE CURRENT VACANCY.

SO THEY'D BE REMOVED FROM NEXT YEAR'S FISCAL REQUEST.

THEY'RE OUT OF THE BOX.

OKAY.

SO YOU'RE REDUCING NEXT YEAR'S FISCAL REQUEST

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BY ONE PERSON.

TWO, TWO PEOPLE.

GOOD GIRL.

YES.

UM, AND THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COSTS BASED OFF OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY ARE BUDGETING.

IT'S BUDGETED AT THE SAME GRADE.

SO, SO CAN YOU, CAN YOU EASILY FIND SOMEBODY WITH, WITH THOSE TYPE OF HYBRID UH, SKILLS? THE SKILLS THAT WE'VE CREATED, THE POSITION WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, IF THEY DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE THEM, THEY'RE TRAINABLE.

OKAY.

UM, SO IT WOULD NOT BE A CHALLENGE TO FIND THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THE POSITION.

PROBABLY THE MOST CHALLENGING THING WOULD BE FOIA.

UM, WHICH SHE'S VERY GOOD AT FINDING PEOPLE SIR.

, WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT RESOURCE WITH BOTH CAITLIN AND JASON, UM, WITH TRAINING AND WE HAVE SOME GREAT RESOURCES TO HELP SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.

SO REFRESH MY MEMORY ON THE RISK MANAGEMENT, THAT WOULD BE THE PERSON TO MAKE SURE ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS ARE INSURED, WORKERS COMP, ALL OF THAT.

ALL OF THAT.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

EVEN ESL LANE MA'AM.

RIGHT.

, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THE POSITION OR THEIR REQUEST? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON FROM THE BOARD? I HAVE JUST ONE CONCERN.

MM-HMM.

AND THAT'S THE FOIA OFFICER POSITION BECAUSE OFTEN THAT REALLY NEEDS TO FILTER THROUGH LEGAL IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE COMPLIANT.

UM, YOU CAN'T WAIT MM-HMM.

ON RESPONSE.

MM-HMM.

.

SO I, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY ITEM I WOULD REMOVE FROM THIS JOB DESCRIPTION AND MAYBE ALLOW SOME, WE NEED TO HAVE TWO FOIA OFFICERS FOR THE OFFICE.

UM, WE REALIZE THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE USING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND CAITLIN SHELTON AND THEN ZACH IS HER BACKUP.

IT'S TOO MUCH WITH THE TWO OF THEM AND THE VOLUME OF REQUESTS THAT WE'RE GETTING, HENCE WHY THIS PERSON WOULD BE THE BACKUP FOR CAITLIN.

UM, AND SO THEY WOULD BE THE TWO FOIA OFFICERS SO THEY WOULD REACH OUT TO JASON WITH ANYTHING THAT'S NOT CAN I GET A COPY OF THE MINUTE MEETINGS NOTES? EASY THINGS.

OKAY.

UM, BECAUSE FOIA IS NEW FOR ALL OF US, EXCEPT MAYBE MS. SHIRAKI WHO JOINED US.

UM, BUT NO, SO THAT'S WHERE LEGAL IS DIRECTLY TIED TO IT.

UM, SO CAITLIN'S OFFICE WOULD BE OVERSEEING THE DAY-TO-DAY AND THEN SOMETHING THAT'S CONFUSING.

JASON WOULD BE HELPING TO RIGHT.

GUIDE US.

SO THIS PERSON THEN WOULD BE BACK UP TO MS. SHELTON.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SHE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE TIME OFF AND WE NEED TO HAVE A SECOND JUST FOR WORKLOAD AND WE SHOULD NOT.

UM, JASON AND I TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE SHOULD NOT DESIGNATE THE ATTORNEY AS THE FOYER OFFICER.

RIGHT.

SO HE WILL BE THE SUPERVISOR, IF YOU WILL THE ADVISOR, UH, GO-TO PERSON WHEN THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT HOW DO WE DO THIS, WHAT SHOULD WE DO IN RESPONSE, ET CETERA.

BUT THIS FOIA OFFICER HAS DESIGNATED AND THE BACKUP, THEY RECEIVE THE INITIAL AND THEY UH, MORE OR LESS KEEP TRACK OF IT.

THEY'RE MANING IT TO SEE THAT WE START THE FIVE DAYS AND IT GOES TO THE RIGHT DEPARTMENT AND SO FORTH.

AND THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES IF WE DON'T REPLY IN CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.

YES.

AND SO I DIDN'T WANNA PUT IT IN A, IN A SITUATION MM-HMM.

WHERE THE BALL MIGHT GET DROPPED .

RIGHT.

CORRECT.

AND THAT'S WHY WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE AND THE BACKUPS IN PLACE.

OKAY.

UM, AND CAITLIN'S PLANNING ON DOING TRAINING FOR ALL OF US.

UM, WHICH WOULD PIGGYBACK OFF OF THE TRAINING THAT JASON DID FOR ALL OF YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT DEPARTMENT HEADS KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING AND THE TIMING AND THE URGENCY WITH IT.

CUZ A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY REALIZE A CONVERSATION IN THE GROCERY STORE.

COUNSELS A FOIA REQUEST.

UM, SO WE'VE DONE A FEW THINGS IN ORDER TO STREAMLINE AND TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE.

SO NEIL, WE HAVE AN EMAIL ADDRESS, FOIA, WARREN COUNTY, VA, SO PEOPLE CAN EMAIL DIRECTLY.

UM, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A LITTLE MORE STRUCTURED.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

.

THANK YOU.

ONE MORE QUESTION.

YEAH.

DO WE, UM, DO YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN MIND FOR THAT ALREADY OR NO? OKAY.

SO WHEN ARE YOU PLANNING ON ADVERTISING IT? AS SOON AS YOU APPROVE THIS.

ONCE YOU APPROVE IT.

MM-HMM.

NOT TILL TOMORROW, SIR.

NOT EARLIER THAN THAT.

HEY, THAT'S GOOD.

MM-HMM.

.

I LIKE IT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT THE ADDITION OF THE HUMAN RESOURCES ASSOCIATE GRADE 11 POSITION, JOB DESCRIPTION WITH GRADE IN THE COUNTY'S COMPENSATION PLAN.

SECOND.

SECOND.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. BUTLER.

AYE.

MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE.

MRS. OATS? AYE.

MR. MABE? AYE.

VERY GOOD.

NEXT ITEM IS THE ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS.

IS THERE ANY NEW BUSINESS ANYBODY ON THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT? IF NOT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN OUR MEETING? MADAM CHAIR? OH, YES.

I WOULD LIKE TO

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COMMEND THE BOARD FOR MOVING A LOT OF THINGS ALONG TONIGHT.

WE APPRECIATE IT AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK AS WELL.

EVERYONE'S, WITH THAT BEING SAID, MOTION TO ADJOURN MADAM CHAIR.

ALL IN FAVOR.

PEACE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OH, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.