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WELCOME[B. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America]
TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING FOR AUGUST 15TH, 2023.UM, THE FIRST, UM, BUSINESS IS THAT WE ARE GONNA GO INTO A CLOSED SESSION PER THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION? MADAM CHAIR, MOVE THE BOARD.
ENTER A CLOSED MEETING UNDER THE POSITIONS OF SECTION 2 37 11 8, CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL, UH, EMPLOYED BY THE PUBLIC BODY REGARDING THE SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING THE PROVISIONS OF LEGAL ADVICE BY SUCH COUNSEL, SUCH LEGAL MATTERS SUCH AS SAMUEL AGREEMENT AND ZONING ORDINANCE IS APPLICABLE TO COUNTY PROPERTIES.
I FURTHER MOVE THAT THE BOARD ENTER, ENTER INTO A CLOSED MEETING UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 2 37, 7, AND A EIGHT FOR CONSULTATION WITH LOCAL COUNSEL PERTAINING TO ACTUAL PROBABLE LITIGATION IN THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL AND THE COUNTY OF VIRGINIA, THE E D, THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL, THE E VERSUS JENNIFER MCDONALD AT ALL, THE TOWN OF VERSUS THE ALL THE E VERSUS TOWN OF FRONT.
ALL POTENTIAL CLAIMS AND LITIGATION RELATED TO OTHER POSSIBLE LIABILITIES OF THE E A, THE RECOVERY OF E D A FUNDS AND ASSETS, THE OUTSTANDING INDEBTEDNESS OF THE E D A AND POTENTIAL BANK ACTIONS RELATED TO THE SENATE.
AND, UH, SUPERVISOR MAE, I THINK YOU MEANT TO SAY 37, 11 A SEVEN AND A EIGHT.
SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? WE HAVE A MOTION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR VOTE.
SO CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO COMING OUTTA CLOSED SESSION? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD CERTIFIES TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS, LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER SECTIONS 2.2 3 7 1, 1, A SEVEN, AND A EIGHT OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, AND ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVENED, WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING BY THE PUBLIC BODY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND WELCOME EVERYONE.
UM, WE WILL BEGIN WITH A PRAYER OPENING WITH PRAYER BEFORE WE CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
AND THAT PASTOR ROBERT ROBERTSON THANK YOU.
AND, UH, IF YOU WOULD, LET'S PRAY OUR FATHER WHO TON HEAVEN, WE PRAISE YOUR NAME.
YOU ARE HOLY AND YOUR NAME IS HOLY.
WE DECLARE TONIGHT THAT YOU ARE A GOOD GOD AND YOU WANT ONLY GOOD FOR YOUR CHILDREN.
THEREFORE, WE SUBMIT THE PLANS AND DISCUSSIONS OF THIS HOUR INTO YOUR HANDS.
YOUR WORD SAYS, IF WE LACK WISDOM, WE NEED ONLY TO ASK.
SO WE HUMBLY ASK THAT YOU WOULD GRANT THIS BODY DIVINE WISDOM TO CARRY OUT THE PLANS OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR THEIR GOOD AND FOR YOUR GLORY.
WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU AGAIN AND I CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER.
AND WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I, I ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[C. Adoption of Agenda – Additions or Deletions]
UM, ON OUR AGENDA IS THE ADOPTION OF OUR AGENDA.SO DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? I MOVE THAT THE AGENDA BE APPROVED AND AMENDED, UH, APPROVED AS PRESENTED AND AMENDED TO CONSIDER THE REQUEST OF THE SHENANDOAH CLUB PROPERTIES L L C TO RESCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING SET FOR AUGUST 22ND, 2023, REGARDING THEIR APPLICATION TO RESUME PROPERTY FROM AGRICULTURAL TO SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
AND THAT THE C U B PUBLIC HEARING
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BE MOVED, UM, TO THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS AT THIS MEETING.IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE.
MOVING, UH, MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM.
UM, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 20 23 0 5 0 6 BEFORE OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I JUST WANT TO, UH, KIND OF, LET ME HOLD ON JUST A MINUTE,
SO BEFORE WE START THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT THE GUIDELINES.
UM, OUR PUBLIC HEARING IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO DISCUSS A MATTER THAT IS BEFORE THE BOARD FOR ACTION.
A PUBLIC HEARING IS NOT A DEBATE.
ALL COMMENTS WILL BE DIRECTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND NOT TO THE AUDIENCE.
THE SPEAKERS WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
PLEASE BE CONSIDERATE OF YOUR FELLOW SPEAKERS.
THERE SHOULD BE NO APPLAUSE, BOOING OR OTHER LOUD DISRUPTIONS TO THESE PROCEEDINGS, POSTERS, AND OTHER MEANS OF VISUALS.
DISPLAY OF COMMENTS ARE NOT PERMITTED IN THE BOARDROOM.
THE BOARD WILL NOT TOLERATE PERSONAL ATTACKS BY ANYONE ON ANY OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN THESE PROCEEDINGS, AND ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THE GUIDELINES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING MAY BE ASKED TO LEAVE THE MEETING.
UH, SO WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, UM, WE ARE GONNA, UM, UH, INTRODUCE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2023 DASH OH 5 0 6, ERICA BAKER AND RICHARD CASE FOR A SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL.
AND MR. LINZ, YOU HAVE THE, THE FLOOR.
UH, SO I'M REPORTING THAT THERE ARE NO CHANGES SINCE OUR FIRST ATTEMPT AT A PUBLIC HEARING AND I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING, ANY COMMUNICATIONS FROM ANYONE.
AND THIS, THIS, UH, APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN AND MEETS THE SETBACKS AND, UH, THE DWELLING IS APPROVED FOR A MAXIMUM OF FOUR OCCUPANTS AND THERE ARE NO CHANGES IN THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS FROM THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
OTHER THAN THAT, THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER IS NOTIFIED AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US.
I'M OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AS THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING HERE TONIGHT.
I THINK I'VE SHARED IT PREVIOUSLY, BUT WE'RE JUST SO HONORED TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THIS.
WE REALLY LOVE THE PROPERTY AND ARE EXCITED TO SHARE IT WITH OTHERS WHEN WE'RE NOT THERE.
UM, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST LET ME KNOW.
SO DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I, I DO.
UM, I SEE, I THINK MOSTLY WHAT WAS MISSING BEFORE WAS YOUR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND YOU HAVE THAT HERE, BUT YOU LIST YOURSELF AND, UM, RICHARD CASE AS THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT.
DO YOU LIVE LOCALLY? WE LIVE ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF AWAY, BUT I WORK, I'M A REAL ESTATE AGENT IN MARYLAND AND VIRGINIA, SO I'VE BEEN HERE JUST ABOUT EVERY WEEK.
UM, PREVIOUSLY IT WASN'T BECAUSE OF A, A MANAGEMENT, UH, PLAN, THEY HAD MISTAKENLY ADVERTISED OUR ADDRESS.
SO WE HAD TURNED EVERYTHING IN IN TIME.
UM, BUT, BUT YEAH, SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR PLAN.
SO WHEN I'M NOT HERE FOR WORK, WE WOULD OPEN IT UP FOR THE, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
DO YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT IS CLOSER THAT YOU CAN, IF, IF THERE IS A NEED AND YOU'RE AN HOUR AND A HALF AWAY THAT THEY CAN, UM, GET THERE A LITTLE SOONER IF NEEDED? ABSOLUTELY.
WE'RE ACTUALLY MEETING A FELLOW REALTOR TOMORROW AT 11.
UM, SHE DOES PROPERTY MANAGEMENT.
UM, SO WE WERE CONSIDERING HAVING HER AS KIND OF OUR BOOTS ON THE GROUND IF WE EVER NEEDED IT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NOPE.
MR. HENDERSON, DO WE HAVE ANYONE TO SPEAK? NO, MA'AM.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? MY NAME IS TRACY LANE, 6 4 5 BRAGG DRIVE.
THIS ISN'T GONNA TAKE AWAY MY OTHER COMMENT TIME, RIGHT? AS LONG AS THIS PERTAINING TO IT DOES.
UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT THE BOARD IS CONTINUING TO ADHERE TO THE EXISTING, UM, PRO UM, ZONING PLANS WHEN IT COMES TO SHORT TERM RENTALS, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS PROPERTY.
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I, I'VE SEEN THE PROPERTY AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL AND I'M HOPING THAT I CAN RUN IT ONE DAY.IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK? SECOND CALL.
OUR PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW, UM, CLOSED.
UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST OF ERICA BAKER AND RICHARD CASE FOR A SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL WITH CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS OUR PUBLIC
[D. Public Comment Period (60 Minute Time Limit)]
COMMENT PERIOD.SO LET ME MAKE SURE WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN ORDER HERE.
I WOULD, MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD REMIND THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC THAT THERE ARE NO VIDEOS AT OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, UNLESS IT'S BY AN APPLICANT FOR A SPECIFIC THING SUCH AS A REZONING, UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE THAT SPECIFICALLY PERTAINS TO AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
THERE ARE NO VIDEOS AT THESE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UM, AGAIN, I WANTED JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, UM, OUR GUIDELINES FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO GIVE INPUT ON ANY RELEVANT ISSUE, NOT SUBJECT TO A PUBLIC HEARING, AND IS NOT INTENDED AS A QUESTION OR ANSWER PERIOD.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD SHALL BE LIMITED TO 60 MINUTES WITH A MAX OF THREE MINUTES FOR ANY SPEAKER.
SPEAKERS MAY ONLY SPEAK ONCE AND WILL BE HEARD IN THE ORDERS IN WHICH THEY HAVE SIGNED UP.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, MR. HENDERSON, HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP? YES, MA'AM.
MARK EGGER FRONT ROYAL, YOU'VE BEEN HEARING RECENTLY FROM THE PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT A BOY CAN BECOME A GIRL, THEY CAN'T ARGUE WITH SCIENCE.
SO INSTEAD THEY CALL US NAMES SUCH AS HATERS, BIGOTS, AND RELIGIOUS EXTREMISTS BECAUSE WE, WE REFUSE TO GO ALONG WITH THEIR INSANITY OF BELIEVING A BOY CAN BECOME A GIRL.
THEY LOVE TO SPEAK IN GENERALITIES, ESPECIALLY WITH THEIR USE OF THE ALPHABET SOUP OF L G B T Q X Y Z L G B T Q, THIS L B G T Q, THAT, BUT THEY NEVER TALK ABOUT WHAT THE LETTERS MEAN.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE T IN THEIR ALPHABET.
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS TRANSGENDER.
THEY HAVE A SEX EITHER MALE OR FEMALE.
THE T MEANS CHOPPING A PENIS OFF OF A BOY, CHOPPING BREASTS OFF OF A GIRL, DESTROYING THEIR NATURAL FERTILITY, MUTILATING THEIR BODIES, PUTTING THEM ON DANGEROUS DRUGS FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.
IT MEANS DEPRESSION AND INCREASINGLY SUICIDE.
AND THE AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION IS A 100% IN SUPPORT OF THIS INSANITY.
DID THE ALPHABET MAFIA BOTHER TO ASK THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE ALPHABET SOUP IF THEY WANT TO BE LUMPED TOGETHER WITH THE TEES? I'LL TELL YOU A SECRET THAT'S NEVER TALKED ABOUT BY THESE BULLIES.
YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE A LESBIAN DOESN'T WANNA HAVE SEX WITH A DUDE IN A DRESS.
YOU KNOW, WHO ELSE DOESN'T LIKE THE TEES? WOMEN, REAL WOMEN.
WOMEN ARE TIRED OF BEING CANCELED, HAVING THEIR PRIVATE SPACES INVADED BY MEN HAVING THEIR SPORTS DESTROYED BY MEN.
LIKE WILL THOMAS, WHO CLAIMS HE'S A WOMAN AND WALKS AROUND WOMEN'S LOCKER ROOMS WITH HIS PENIS HANGING OUT.
HE DOESN'T REALLY BELIEVE HE'S A WOMAN.
HE HAS A SEXUAL FETISH IN WHICH HE ENJOYS DEGRADING WOMEN LIKE THE DRAG QUEENS PROMOTED BY THE A L A WHO ENJOY MOCKING AND DEGRADING WOMEN WITH THEIR ABSURD EXAGGERATED COSTUMES.
IMAGINE THE OUTCRY IF THE A L A PROMOTED BLACKFACE, MOCKING AND DEGRADING BLACK PEOPLE.
BUT IT'S OKAY WITH THE A L A IF YOU DO IT TO WOMEN.
WE'RE TIRED OF THE CHILD AND MUTILATING BULLIES AND WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE.
DURING THE JULY 10TH LIBRARY BOARD MEETING, ONE OF THESE BULLIES, STEVIE HUBBARD TOOK A PICTURE OF MY FACE SUPER AND POSTED IN KUKU KLUX KLAN ROBES, COPIED IT ON THE LIBRARY COPIERS AND DISTRIBUTED ON CARS IN THE LIBRARY PARKING LOT.
CAMERON HUBBARD AND KYLIE MCGUIRE WERE IN ON THIS.
ALSO, ONE OF THE PATRONS WHO RECEIVED A COPY ON HER CAR REPORTED IT IMMEDIATELY TO THE LIBRARY, BUT THE LIBRARY DIDN'T BOTHER TO NOTIFY LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT K K K FLYERS WERE BEING DISTRIBUTED ON LIBRARY GROUNDS.
STEVIE HUBBARD LIKES TO PORTRAY HERSELF AS SOME SORT OF LOVING, CARING SAINT.
SO I'M GONNA GIVE HER THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVE HER SAINTHOOD.
IF SHE AND THE OTHER TWO MAKE SINCERE APOLOGIES FOR WHAT THEY DID AND PUB PUBLISHED THEM IN THE NORTHERN VIRGINIA DAILY AND THE ROYAL EXAMINER, THEN I WILL ACCEPT THEIR APOLOGIES.
IF NOT, THEN I WILL BE FILING DEFAMATION LAWSUITS AGAINST EACH OF THEM.
AND IT'S A FACT THAT ONE OF THE MAIN GROUPS TARGETED BY THE K K K WAS CATHOLICS.
SO IN CREATING THIS DESPICABLE FLYER, WHO IS THE REAL BIGOT STILL? OKAY, PLEASE, PLEASE KEEP IT QUIET AND DIDN'T STOP IT.
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THANK YOU MA'AM.PLEASE, MA'AM, PLEASE SIT DOWN SIR.
I WAS HOPING TO SHARE A VIDEO THIS EVENING THAT I HAD CLEARED WITH TWO OF YOU TWO BOARD MEMBERS.
I HAD CLEARED IT WEEKS AGO AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S A NEW RULE.
WE HAVE SET A PRECEDENT BEFORE WHERE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SHOW VIDEOS AND NOW WE CAN'T.
SO THAT ACTUALLY IS A VIOLATION OF MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT? FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
IT'S A VIOLATION OF THAT LAWSUITS.
WERE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT LAWSUITS THESE DAYS, BUT LAWSUITS CAN GO BOTH WAYS.
AND MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS BEING VIOLATED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I WASN'T ABLE TO SHOW THAT VIDEO.
YOU'RE SILENCING SOMEONE IN THE VIDEO WHOSE LIFE WAS RUINED, HER BODY AND HER LIFE WAS RUINED BECAUSE OF THE LIE OF TRANSGENDERISM.
YOU'RE SILENCING HER AND YOU'RE SILENCING ME.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK? NEXT UP IS VANESSA, AKA YES.
I LIVE IN WARREN COUNTY AND I FREQUENT THE LIBRARY QUITE OFTEN WITH MY CHILDREN.
UM, I'M VERY DISTURBED BY THE LIST OF BOOKS THAT I SEE BEING PLACED THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS SEEN THESE BOOKS WITH STRAIGHT UP PORNOGRAPHIC IMAGES FOR YOUNG CHILDREN.
THE PICTURE SPEAKS A THOUSAND WORDS.
YOUNG CHILDREN ARE VERY, VERY IMPRESSIONABLE.
WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SMOKE A CIGARETTE UNTIL WE'RE 18.
WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DRIVE A CAR UNTIL WE'RE 16.
WE'RE NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO HAVE A BEER UNTIL YOU'RE 21.
WHY ARE CHILDREN BEING SHOWN IMAGES OF MASTURBATION? SAME SEX COUPLES INTERACTING WITH EACH OTHER.
IF MY CHILDREN WERE TO STUMBLE UPON ONE OF THESE BOOKS, I WOULD BE HORRIFIED.
YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO VIEW PORNOGRAPHY AT A LIBRARY ON A COMPUTER.
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WITH THESE BOOKS? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
IT'S CALLED, IT'S PERFECTLY NORMAL.
I COULD SHOW YOU THESE IMAGES.
UM, BUT AGAIN, I WAS SURPRISED OUR VIDEO WAS NOT PLAYED TONIGHT.
I HAD AN EMAIL CONFIRMING THAT.
UM, I AS A MOTHER, THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT IS, IS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING I AM HERE TO FIGHT FOR TODAY.
MY CHILDREN SHOULD NOT HAVE THIS IMPOSED UPON THEM.
THERE IS A VERY CLEAR AGENDA THESE DAYS.
THIS CULT OF PROGRESSIVENESS HAS A VERY CLEAR, THEY HAVE A CLEAR TARGET HERE AND IT IS ACCESS TO OUR CHILDREN.
WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE HERE? SOMEBODY ASKED ME WHEN I ARRIVED, WHAT I WAS FIGHTING FOR, AND MY ANSWER WAS, MY CHILDREN.
WHAT ARE THEY FIGHTING FOR? FOR MY CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO VIEW THEIR PORNOGRAPHY FOR MY CHILDREN, TO BE ABLE TO VALIDATE THEM IN THEIR FEELINGS AND THEIR LIFESTYLES.
IF ANY ADULT APPROACH MY CHILDREN ABOUT THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION, NO MATTER WHICH WAY IT GOES, I WOULD CALL THAT CHILD ABUSE CHILDREN SHOULD BE PROTECTED.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THESE PEOPLE ARE HERE TRYING TO INFLICT THIS UPON OUR CHILDREN IN OUR LIBRARY.
THERE IS ANOTHER BOOK HERE THAT I FOUND VERY DISTURBING AS WELL.
IT'S WRITTEN IN A COMIC STRIP STYLE.
IT IS CALLED KISS NUMBER EIGHT, WHERE GIRLS ARE KISSING EACH OTHER.
UM, THERE IS A BLASPHEMOUS SCENE IN A CHURCH WITH A CRUCIFIX.
SO MY RELIGION HERE IS BEING TARGETED, MY CATHOLIC FAITH.
UM, AND THEN THESE IMAGES, I I DON'T EVEN FEEL COMFORTABLE SHOWING ADULTS TO BE HONEST.
UM, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THESE BOOKS HAVE STILL NOT BEEN PULLED FROM OUR LIBRARY.
UM, THE BIBLE SAYS IT IS BETTER FOR A MILLSTONE TO BE PUT AROUND SOMEONE'S NECK AND TO HAVE THEM THROWN INTO A LAKE THAN TO SCANDALIZE A CHILD TO THIS EXTENT.
IS THAT THE THREE MINUTE? IT'S OKAY.
NOT ARE WE READY FOR THE I'LL DO IT ON MY TIME.
SO WHEN IT'S, UH, SO DOES YOUR
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ALARM HAVE A, A SOUND?THE NEXT SPEAKER NEXT UP IS JOHN LUNDBERG.
I LIVE IN FRONT ROYAL HUGH HENRY, A LOCAL BUILDER WANTS TO RECALL WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISOR CHAIRMAN VICKI COOK AS THE FORK DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE ON THE BOARD.
THIS IS A BASELESS GROUNDLESS MOVE BY MR. HENRY.
VICKI'S BEEN AN EXCELLENT CHAIRMAN, ONE OF THE BEST WARREN COUNTY HAS SEEN AND A LONG, LONG TIME.
HERE ARE FIVE OF JUST FIVE OF VICKI'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS DURING OUR FIRST 18 MONTHS AS CHAIRMAN.
ACCOMPLISHMENT NUMBER ONE, WORKING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
VICKI HAS BROUGHT TO LIGHT THE EXISTENCE OF A $20 MILLION SPECIAL FUND THAT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR MANY YEARS, BUT NOT PART OF THE COUNTY'S ANNUAL BUDGET.
THE FUND WAS USED TO FINANCE UNPLANNED CAPITAL EXPENDITURES.
THIS FISCAL YEAR, THE SPECIAL FUND WAS FINALLY DISSOLVED AND THE MONEY DESIGNATED FOR CURRENT BUDGET OBLIGATIONS.
ACCOMPLISHMENT NUMBER TWO, VICKY IS ALSO BROUGHT TO LIGHT THAT WARREN COUNTY IS CURRENTLY IN DEBT BY $130 MILLION.
AND LOCAL TAX PAYERS LAST FISCAL YEAR PAID $11 MILLION TO REDUCE THAT TAX, THAT DEBT.
AS A RESULT, VICKI DOESN'T WANT TO INCREASE THE DEBT AT THIS TIME FOR ANY REASON BY BORROWING MORE MONEY.
WHEN THE SCHOOL BOARD RECENTLY WANTED TO RENOVATE A SCHOOL BUILDING, VICKI HELPED ARRANGE TO FINANCE THE PROJECT WITH OTHER AVAILABLE FUNDS WITHOUT BORROWING MONEY.
IN 2015, WARREN COUNTY REASSESSED A TAX PROGRAM FOR THE LOW INCOME ELDERLY AND PERMANENTLY DISABLED FOR THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS.
HOWEVER, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DID NOT REASSESS THE PROGRAM, REDUCED THE NUMBER OF SENIORS ELIGIBLE UNDER VICKY'S LEADERSHIP.
THE PROGRAM WAS, WAS REASSESSED LAST FISCAL YEAR, INCREASING BOTH THE NUMBER OF SENIORS ELIGIBLE AND THE AMOUNT OF TAX RELIEF THAT THEY RECEIVED.
ACCOMPLISHMENT NUMBER FOUR, IN FISCAL YEAR 2023, VICKY AGREED TO CHAIR THE FIRST EVER BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FINANCE AUDITS COMMITTEE CONSISTING OF OURSELF, FELLOW SUPERVISOR, JAY BUTLER, AND THREE PRIVATE CITIZENS.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMITTEE IS TO ENSURE THAT INTERNAL CONTROLS OF COUNTY FISCAL POLICIES ARE CONSISTENTLY UPDATED AND REFLECT FEDERAL AND STATE STANDARDS AND INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES.
THE COMMITTEE IS WORKING EXTREMELY WELL TOGETHER.
THE LAST ACCOMPLISHMENT IS NUMBER FIVE AT VICKY'S STRONG RECOMMENDATION.
THE FRONT ROW TOWN COUNCIL AND WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAVE FORMED A FIRST EVER QUOTE, TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE SUBCOMMITTEE UNQUOTE, TO STUDY TRANSPORTATION ISSUES INVOLVING THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY SUPERVISOR, CHERYL CULL IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THAT SUBCOMMITTEE.
AMONG THE ISSUES BEING STUDIED IS HOW TO RESOLVE THE LANDLOCK STATUS OF PEOPLE LIVING NORTH OF WHERE THE RAILROAD TRACKS CROSS SHENNAN DOY SHORES ROAD.
IN SUMMARY, I WISH TO SAY THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S REALLY MOTIVATING MR. HENRY TO WANT TO RECALL.
VICKY, WHY DOES HE REALLY WANT HER REMOVED? I HOPE WE FIND OUT SOON.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING.
DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE LINED UP? NEXT UP IS KATHLEEN MANCINI FOR SIR.
FIRST I'D LIKE TO SAY, ACCORDING TO YOUR RULES, YOU SHOULDN'T ALLOW PERSONAL ATTACKS.
I'M NOT GOING TO ATTACK ANYBODY.
SO ANYWAY, UM, I'VE LIVED HERE 17 YEARS.
I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT WE HAD A GREAT LIBRARY AND IT MAKES ME REALLY ANGRY THAT SOMEBODY WANTS TO, THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO DEFUND OUR LIBRARY.
AND I WANNA ASK, IF YOU'RE DEFUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATIONS FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND YOU'RE DEFUNDING THE LIBRARY FOR A MILLION DOLLARS, WHERE IS THAT MONEY GOING? IS THERE ANY TRANSPARENCY TO WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING AND WHAT ELSE ARE YOU GONNA DEFUND NEXT? IT'S VERY CONCERNING TO ME.
I ALSO WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE AIRBNBS.
YOU SHOULD NOT REMOVE THE A HUNDRED FOOT REQUIREMENT FOR AIRBNBS.
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I LIVED NEXT TO AN AIRBNB THAT WAS LESS THAN A HUNDRED FEET IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.INITIALLY I ASKED MYSELF HOW BAD COULD IT BE? IT WAS BAD.
FROM FIRST THING IN THE MORNING TO LATE AT NIGHT, THERE WERE PEOPLE SCREAMING IN A HOT TUB OUTSIDE MY WINDOW MOST TIMES DRUNK FOUR DAYS EVERY SINGLE WEEK.
THERE WAS MORE NOISE IN ONE MONTH FROM THAT AIRBNB THAN THERE WAS FROM THE, THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT LIVED THERE FOR TWO YEARS BEFOREHAND.
THERE'S A REASON WHY WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS ZONED RESIDENTIAL.
IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HAVE 24 7 BUSINESSES NEXT TO THEIR HOUSES.
I'M SURE YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE 24 7 BUSINESSES NEXT TO YOUR HOUSES, BUT YOU'VE GONE AHEAD AND EXEMPTED YOURSELF FROM ANY OF THE RULES THAT YOU'RE IMPOSING.
IS THAT EMBARRASSING TO ANYBODY? HOW CORRUPT THAT THAT LOOKS? DON'T ALLOW IT FOR US.
IF YOU'RE NOT ALLOWING IT FOR YOURSELF, THAT A HUNDRED FOOT RULE IS NECESSARY FOR AIRBNBS DON'T, DON'T CHANGE.
AND THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY WAIVERS ALLOWED.
I LIVED, I HAD MIGRAINES FOR SIX MONTHS BECAUSE OF, OF THAT AIRBNB.
IT'S NOT RIGHT TO HAVE THAT IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
PEOPLE HAVE BOUGHT, THEY PUT THEIR LIFE SAVINGS IN THEIR HOME AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LEAVE JUST BECAUSE YOU CHANGED THE RULE.
AND NOW MAKE IT A BUSINESS DISTRICT INSTEAD OF A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
MY NAME IS TRACY LANE AS THE CHAIR OF P O S F.
I SENT YOU A LETTER LAST WEEK ASKING FOR A CLARIFICATION ON WHY THE VENUS BRANCH MAILBOXES WERE BUILT THE WAY THEY WERE.
YOU HAVE A 16 FOOT BY TWO FOOT, THREE INCH THICK CONCRETE PAD THAT COST 41 THOU OR $4,100 FROM LABOR.
UM, AND ONE OF THE ITEMS ON THERE WAS 45 HOURS FOR A FLAGGER.
THAT CONCRETE PAD WAS IN A PARKING LOT.
AND I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE A RESPONSE.
UM, BUT I'M STILL WAITING FOR A RESPONSE TO THE EMAIL THAT I SENT YOU.
I LOVE YOU BECAUSE I LOVE YOU.
MAYBE I SHOULD BRING AN TANGO MAKES THREE.
I LOVE YOU BECAUSE, BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU.
AND I LOVE YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE, BECAUSE I LOVE YOU.
I LOVE YOU BECAUSE YOU CARRY ME, BECAUSE I LOVE YOU.
I LOVE YOU BECAUSE YOU PLAY WITH ME BECAUSE I LOVE YOU.
THE WORLD BECOMES OUR PLAYGROUND.
I LOVE YOU BECAUSE YOU SEE WHAT OTHERS MISS BECAUSE I LOVE YOU.
I LOVE YOU BECAUSE YOU LET ME SPEAK BECAUSE I LOVE YOU.
LOVE BLOOMS WHERE OUR VOICES MEET.
I LOVE YOU BECAUSE YOU COOK WITH CARE, BECAUSE I LOVE YOU.
FOOD TASTES BETTER WHEN WE SHARE.
I LOVE YOU BECAUSE YOU LET MAKE ME MAKE MISTAKES BECAUSE I LOVE YOU.
I LOVE YOU BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHEN I'M SAD, BECAUSE I LOVE YOU.
I SHARE THE GOOD WITH THE BAD.
I LOVE YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE BRAVE.
WHEN I'M AFRAID BECAUSE I LOVE YOU.
I LOVE YOU BECAUSE YOU WAIT FOR ME BECAUSE I LOVE YOU.
I LOVE YOU BECAUSE YOU TELL THE BEST STORIES BECAUSE I LOVE YOU.
I LOVE YOU BECAUSE WE GO TOGETHER, BECAUSE I LOVE YOU.
I LOVE YOU BECAUSE I LOVE YOU.
IS THIS ONE OF THOSE BOOKS THEY WANT BANNED? THAT WAS SUPER SEXUALLY EXPLICIT.
HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE LEFT? WE'VE GOT 30 MORE SECONDS TO THINK ON THAT STORY.
I MEAN, I COULD COME EVERY WEEK.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE BOOKS I'D LOVE TO READ TO YOU.
THAT'S HOW I MANAGE MY STUDENTS WHEN THEY'RE UNRULY.
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I LIVE IN SHENANDOAH COUNTY, BUT I HAVE, UH, MANY GRANDCHILDREN THAT SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN FRONT ROYAL AND, AND, UH, GO TO THE LIBRARY AND DO VARIOUS ACTIVITIES.
SO I CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, I ALSO HAVE SPENT 50 YEARS IN EDUCATION AS AN ADMINISTRATOR, A TEACHER SCHOOL EVALUATOR.
I HAVE A PERMANENT LICENSE TO BE A SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.
AND, UH, LICENSE TO BE A K THROUGH 12 PRINCIPLE.
I'M FIRST OF ALL WANTING TO SAY HOW FROM MY EXPERIENCE AS AN EDUCATOR AND FROM THE RESEARCH THAT I'VE DONE, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT CHILDREN IN THE LATENCY PERIOD SHOULD NOT BE EXPOSED TO ANY KIND OF SEXUALLY EXPLICIT MATERIAL.
IT IS EXTREMELY DAMAGING TO THEM PSYCHOLOGICALLY, EMOTIONALLY, INTELLECTUALLY, SPIRITUALLY.
SO I EXHORT YOU TO CONTINUE TO DO WHATEVER YOU CAN TO PROTECT ALL CHILDREN FROM BEING EXPOSED TO ANY KIND OF SEXUALLY EXPLICIT MATERIAL IN ANY FORM.
BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK YOU THAT YOU HAVE IN GOD WE TRUST EMBLAZONED HERE ABOVE YOU BECAUSE EVERYONE WHO HOLDS ANY POSITION OF AUTHORITY, ULTIMATELY HE'S NOT GONNA BE JUDGED BY THE PEOPLE, BUT BY ALMIGHTY GOD WILL GIVE AN ACCOUNT TO HIM.
PAUL'S LETTER TO THE ROMANS CHAPTER ONE, THAT GOD'S EXISTENCE IS CLEARLY REVEALED IN THE THINGS THAT HE HAS MADE.
AND I'M GONNA EXPLAIN WHY THAT'S RELEVANT TO WHAT I JUST SAID IN THE BEGINNING.
BECAUSE LIKE MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, I WAS EDUCATED TO BELIEVE THAT IT WAS A FACT THAT NON-LIVING MATTER CAME ALIVE AND TURNED INTO ALL THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF LIVING THINGS THROUGH THE SAME KINDS OF MATERIAL PROCESSES THAT ARE GOING ON NOW.
AND ONE OF THE EVIDENCES THAT WAS CITED AND CONTINUOUS, INCREDIBLY ENOUGH TO BE CITED IS THAT 98% OF OUR D N A DID NOT CODE DOES NOT CODE FOR PROTEIN.
AND SO THE CONSENSUS VIEW IN BIOLOGY BEGINNING IN THE SEVENTIES WAS IT'S JUNK LEFTOVER FROM THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF YEARS OF EVOLUTION.
AND LEADING ATHEISTS LIKE RICHARD DAWKINS WENT ALL OVER THE WORLD SAYING, LOOK AT ALL THIS JUNK D N A, IT'S PROOF THAT THERE IS NO GOD HERE WITH YOUR MINUTES SIR.
HELLO, MY NAME IS KATHY STRIDE AND I LIVE IN FRONT ROYAL.
I'M THE MOTHER OF THREE ADULT CHILDREN AND A GRANDMOTHER.
NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME I SPOKE.
OUR CHILDREN ARE STILL IN A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS AND SUICIDE IS STILL THE NUM, THE LEADING ONE OF THE LEADING NUMBER, OR I'M SORRY, ONE OF THE LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH AMONG OUR CHILDREN, AGES 10 TO 24.
AND IT'S NOT FROM READING BOOKS.
OUR COMMUNITY IS STILL BEING DISCRIMINATED ABOUT ON BY COPYCAT, CHALLENGING.
I'D LIKE TO READ THE FOLLOWING BY JUDITH BLOOM.
WHEN I BEGAN TO WRITE 30 YEARS AGO, I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYONE WOULD PUBLISH MY BOOKS, BUT I WASN'T AFRAID TO WRITE THEM.
I FOUND AN EDITOR AND A PUBLISHER WHO WERE WILLING TO TAKE A CHANCE.
I WAS NEVER TOLD WHAT I COULDN'T WRITE.
I FELT ONLY THAT I HAD TO WRITE THE MOST HONEST BOOKS I COULD.
IT NEVER OCCURRED TO ME AT THE TIME THAT WHAT I WAS WRITING WAS CONTROVERSIAL.
MUCH OF IT GREW OUT OF MY OWN FEELINGS AND CONCERNS WHEN I WAS YOUNG COMMUNISM.
THERE WERE A FEW CHALLENGES TO MY BOOKS THEN.
ALTHOUGH I REMEMBER THE ONE NIGHT A WOMAN PHONED ASKING IF I HAD WRITTEN, ARE YOU THERE? GOD, IT'S ME, MARGARET.
WHEN I REPLIED THAT I HAD, SHE CALLED ME A COMMUNIST AND SLAMMED DOWN THE PHONE.
I NEVER DID FIGURE OUT IF SHE WAS EQUATED THAT COMMUNISM WITH ADMINISTRATION OR RELIGION.
THE TWO MAJOR CONCERNS AT A 12 YEAR OLD MARGARET'S LIFE.
BUT IN 1980, THE SENSORS CRAWLED OUTTA THE WOODWORK SEEMINGLY OVERNIGHT, ORGANIZED AND DETERMINED.
NOT ONLY WOULD THEY DECIDE WHAT THEIR CHILDREN COULD READ, BUT WHAT ALL CHILDREN COULD READ.
CHALLENGES TO BOOK QUADRUPLE WITHIN MONTHS.
AND WE'LL NEVER KNOW HOW MANY TEACHERS, SCHOOL LIBRARIANS, AND PRINCIPALS QUIETLY REMOVE BOOKS TO AVOID TROUBLE.
I BELIEVE THAT CENSORSHIP GROWS
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OUT OF FEAR.AND BECAUSE OF FEAR, IT'S CONTAGIOUS.
SOME PARENTS ARE EASILY SWAYED.
BOOK BANNING SATISFIES THEIR NEED TO FEEL CONTROL OF THEIR CHILDREN'S LIVES.
THIS FEAR IS OFTEN DISGUISED AS MORAL OUTRAGE.
THEY WANT TO BELIEVE THAT IF THEIR CHILDREN DON'T READ ABOUT IT, THEIR CHILDREN WON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
AND IF THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT, IT WON'T HAPPEN TODAY.
IT'S NOT ONLY LANGUAGE AND SEXUALITY.
THE USUAL REASONS GIVEN FOR BANNING MY BOOKS THAT WILL LAND A BOOK ON, ON THE CENSORS LIST.
IT'S SADISM, NEW AGEISM, AND A HUNDRED OTHER ISMS, SOME OF WHICH MAKE YOU LAUGH AT THE IMPLICATIONS IF IT WEREN'T SO SERIOUS.
BOOKS THAT MAKE KIDS LAUGH OFTEN BECOME UNDER COME UNDER SUSPICION.
SO DO BOOKS THAT ENCOURAGE KIDS TO THINK QUESTION AUTHORITY.
BOOKS THAT DON'T HIT THE READER OVER THE HEAD WITH MORAL ISSUES ARE CONSIDERED DANGEROUS IDEAS.
SENSORS DON'T WANT CHILDREN EXPOSED TO IDEAS DIFFERENT FROM THEIR OWN.
IF EVERY INDIVIDUAL WITH AN AGENDA HAD HIS OR HER WAY, THE SHELVES IN THE SCHOOL LIBRARIES WILL BE CLOSE TO EMPTY.
CONNOR TREVOR, IS THAT AN EGG TIMER?
WHILE IT IS ESSENTIAL TO RECOGNIZE THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH AND THE EXPRESSION OF DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS, WE MUST ALSO BE AWARE OF THE POTENTIAL HARM CAUSED BY EXTREMIST PRESSURE GROUPS.
THERE ARE NARROW FOCUS, UNWILLINGNESS TO RECOGNIZE THE DIVERSITY OF RELIGIOUS BELIEFS AND TENDENCY TO PRIORITIZE IDEOLOGY OVER THE COMMUNITY'S ACTUAL NEEDS CAN LEAD TO POLICIES THAT ARE NEITHER FAIR NOR EFFECTIVE.
EXTREMIST PRESSURE GROUPS OFTEN OPERATE WITH A NARROW AND RIGID AGENDA.
WHILE THEY MAY CLAIM TO REPRESENT MORALITY OR A HIGHER CAUSE, THEIR VIEWS ARE TYPICALLY SHAPED BY AN IDEOLOGY THAT DOESN'T RESONATE WITH THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
THIS INFLEXIBILITY OFTEN LEADS TO DIVISIVENESS RATHER THAN UNITY.
WE LIVE IN A COMMUNITY THAT CELEBRATES A RICH TAPESTRY OF BELIEFS, CULTURES, AND TRADITIONS.
RELIGION IS DEEPLY PERSONAL AND ITS INTER ROTATION VARIES WIDELY.
WHAT IS SECRET TO ONE MAY NOT BE FOR ANOTHER.
BY ATTEMPTING TO IMPOSE A SPECIFIC RELIGIOUS VIEWPOINT, EXTREMIST GROUPS OVERLOOK THE FLORA THICK NATURE OF OUR SOCIETY, NOR THE FACT THAT ONE SIZE FITS ALL.
RELIGIOUS MANDATES ARE INAPPROPRIATE AND UNREPRESENTATIVE EXTREMIST PRESSURE GROUPS FREQUENTLY PRIORITIZE THEIR IDEOLOGICAL GOALS OVER THE REAL AND VARIED NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
WHETHER IT'S EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE, OR SOCIAL SERVICES, THEY OFTEN DISREGARD PRACTICAL CONSIDERATIONS IN FAVOR OF PURSUING A RIGID DOCTRINE.
THIS CAN LEAD TO POLICIES THAT ARE DISCONNECTED FROM THE ACTUAL NEEDS AND DESIRES OF THE PEOPLE THEY CLAIM TO REPRESENT.
BY PRESSURING PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND MANIPULATING PUBLIC OPINION THROUGH FEAR OR MISINFORMATION, THESE GROUPS CAN UNDERMINE THE VERY DEMOCRATIC VALUES THAT ARE SOCIETY IS BUILT UPON.
THE COMPLEXITY OF OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS.
NEEDS CANNOT BE REDUCED TO SIMPLE, IDEOLOGICALLY DRIVEN SOLUTIONS.
OUR STRENGTH LIES IN OUR ABILITY TO WORK TOGETHER TO UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT OUR DIFFERENCES.
AND TO FIND COMMON GROUND, WE MUST RECOGNIZE THAT AN INCLUSIVE APPROACH WHICH CONSIDERS THE DIVERSE BELIEF, BELIEFS, AND NEEDS OF ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WILL LEAD TO A MORE HARMONIOUS AND PROSPEROUS SOCIETY.
LIAM STEWART, I STAND BEFORE YOU AS A PRO.
COULD YOU JUST, UM, SAY YOUR NAME AND, UH, YOUR ADDRESS? NO, I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO THAT THIS WHOLE TIME.
WHY ARE YOU DOING IT? TO JUST SAY YOUR NAME.
JUST, JUST, JUST SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR THE TOWN.
I AM LIAM STEWART IN FRONT ROYAL.
I STAND BEFORE YOU AS A PROUD MEMBER OF FRONT ROYAL AND SAMUEL'S LIBRARY TO SUPPORT IT.
FOR MANY OF US, LIBRARIES ARE PLACES WHERE WE DISCOVER OURSELVES, FIND CHARACTERS AND BOOKS THAT MIRROR OUR STRUGGLES AND, AND FIND OUR JOYS AND IDENTITIES.
HOWEVER, NOT ALL KIDS ARE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO FEEL REPRESENTED AND WELCOMED IN SUCH SPACES.
THE TRUTH IS THAT THE L G B T COMMUNITY FACES MUCH ABUSE, OFTEN FEELING ISOLATED AND MISUNDERSTOOD.
FINDING RELATABLE STORIES AND RESOURCES CAN BE DIFFICULT EVEN FOR TEENS SUCH AS MYSELF.
IT'S A PLACE TO EASILY ACCESS LITERATURE AND INFORMATION THAT HELPS US AFFIRM OUR IDENTITIES, NAVIGATE THIS COMPLEX WORLD.
BUT SAMUEL'S LIBRARY IS IN DANGER OF LOSING A GLORY DUE TO THE IGNORANCE AND BIGOTRY OF THE MEASLY 53 PEOPLE TRYING TO CONTROL IT.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, YOU DO NOT REALIZE THAT YOU ARE FEEDING INTO THIS BULLYING AND IGNORANCE.
YOUR ACTIONS ARE A FIRST AMENDMENT VIOLATION.
IT PROTECTS FREEDOM SPEECH OR FREEDOM OF SPEECH, THE PRESS ASSEMBLY
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AND THE RIGHT TO PETITION THE GOVERNMENT FOR A REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES.THE TAXPAYERS OF FRONT OIL ARE PAYING YOU TO DO YOUR JOB, WHICH ARE YOU ARE CLEARLY FAILING.
IMAGINE THE IMPACT OF A SAFE, INCLUSIVE LIBRARY HELPING ANYBODY.
IT BE THE PLACE WHERE ANYONE FINDS HOPE, SOMEWHERE THEY CAN FINALLY FEEL SEEN AND ACCEPTED.
CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE EVERYONE IS ACCEPTED IS CRUCIAL TO FRONT OIL REGARDLESS OF OUR SEXUAL ORIENTATION, RELIGION, RACE, OR GENDER IDENTITY.
WE'RE ONLY HUMAN DISCRIMINATION IS A LAWSUIT.
AND I GO BY CAMMI IN CASE ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO MENTION ME IN THEIR SPEECHES.
UM, SO I SPOKE TO YOU GUYS A FEW MEETINGS AGO.
UM, I HOPE MY WORDS HAVE HAD AN IMPACT ON YOU AND YOUR DECISIONS FOR TODAY.
UM, BUT IN CASE THEY HAVEN'T, I'M HERE AGAIN TO TRY IT NOW.
AS IT WAS LAST TIME, I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO REEVALUATE YOUR VOTE ON THE LIBRARY BAN.
IT'S DISHEARTENING THAT THERE ARE REAL ISSUES IN THIS TOWN, REAL PROBLEMS THAT WE FACE EVERY SINGLE DAY THAT YOU GUYS HAVEN'T EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT ADDING TO YOUR AGENDA.
INSTEAD, WE ARE HERE ADVOCATING FOR THE RIGHT TO READ.
WE ARE HERE ADVOCATING FOR THE PROTECTION OF MEN, WOMEN, WOMEN, CHILDREN, AND ADULTS TO HAVE THEIR RIGHT TO READ A CATEGORY THAT IS RELATABLE TO THEIR LIVES.
WE ARE HERE PROTECTING RIGHTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED FROM PROTECTION FROM MUCH HIGHER GOVERNMENTS THAN US.
WE ARE TIRED, WE FEEL WORN DOWN AND UNHEARD.
PLEASE DON'T PUT OUR TIME THROUGH THE RINGER FOR SOMETHING THAT SHOULD NOT BE A QUESTION.
PLEASE DO NOT SELL OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS TOWARDS FUNDING A LAWYER FOR A FIGHT THAT YOU GUYS WILL NEVER WIN.
INSTEAD, PLEASE START TALKING ABOUT RESOLUTIONS TO THE TEENAGE DROP EPIDEMIC DRUG EPIDEMICS THAT HAVE ALREADY, WE HAVE ALREADY LOST SO MANY TEENS TO I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT TALKED ABOUT ONCE.
I'VE LOST MANY FRIENDS TO THAT.
AND THAT IS A REAL ISSUE THAT WE LIVE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
INSTEAD, WE ALSO NEED YOUR HELP TO PROVIDE PROTECTION FOR US AS WELL.
THERE ARE TONS OF PEOPLE THAT NEED YOUR HELP, THAT IS VIABLE TO THEM.
HELP MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES SAFER AND UNITED.
PLEASE STOP ENTERTAINING AND WASTING TIME ON THINGS THAT AREN'T PHYSICAL THREAT TO OUR SOCIETIES.
AND PLEASE VOTE ON PROTECTING THE LIBRARY.
HOW MUCH TIME DO I LEFT? APPROXIMATELY? APPROXIMATELY A MINUTE.
GIMME A BOOK TODAY AND THIS IS GRANDDAD'S CAMPER, ANOTHER BAND BOOK.
EVERY SUMMER I GO TO STAY AT MY GRANDDAD'S HOUSE BY THE SEA.
IT'S A PRETTY OLD COTTAGE WITH BOOKSHELVES PACKED TO THE BRIM WITH INTERESTING THINGS FROM GRANDDAD'S TRAVELS AND LOTS OF GREAT PLACES TO PLAY HIDE AND SEEK IN THE GARDEN.
GRANDDAD GROWS ALL KINDS OF FRUITS AND VEGETABLES, BUT MY FAVORITE THING TO DO AT GRANDDAD'S HOUSE IS SNUGGLE UP ON THE SOFA AND LISTEN TO, AS GRANDDAD TELLS ME ABOUT ALL THE AMAZING PLACES HE AND GRAM'S WOULD EXPLORE.
YOUR GRAM'S WAS QUITE THE ADVENTURE.
HE WAS TALL AND HANDSOME AND EXCELLENT AT SO MANY THINGS.
SOON AFTER WE MET HE INVITED ME ON VACATION WITH HIM.
SO WE SET OFF ON HIS CAMPER TO SEASIDE.
IN THE DAYTIME WE SURFED ATE FISH AND CHIPS AND HAD A SAND CASTLE COMPETITION.
I THINK I WON IN THE EVENINGS WE'D HAVE BONFIRES ON THE BEACH AND WATCH TIDE GO ALL DAY LONG.
HI, NAME JACKIE MARCELLO FROM ROYAL VIRGINIA.
WELCOME FORK DISTRICT BY THE WAY.
ALRIGHT, SO I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHY WE'RE ALL HERE.
SO I'M SURE YOU'RE SICK OF SEEING OUR FACES.
UM, I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT PRESSURE GROUPS AND MY SON TOUCHED ON IT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE UM, BOW TO THE EXTREMIST PRESSURE GROUPS, WE SEE AN EROSION OF DEMOCRATIC VALUES.
THEY PUSHED AN AGENDA THAT'S NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DEVICE.
VO DEVICE VOICE VOICES IN OUR COMMUNITY, THEY SUPPRESS MINORITY OPINIONS.
THEY PROMOTE DIVISIVENESS, THEY UNDERMINE INTEGRITY.
THEY HAVE SHORT TERM SOLUTIONS THAT EQUAL LONG TERM PROBLEMS. AND SO THE CHALLENGE OF THEM IS NOT JUST A POLITICAL OR SOCIAL ISSUE.
IT'S AN ETHICAL DILEMMA THAT CAUSE US TO REFLECT ON OUR CORE VALUES AND PRINCIPLES.
CAVING TO THESE PRESSURES IS NOT JUST A FAILURE OF RESOLVE, IT'S A BETRAYAL OF THE ETHICAL FOUNDATION THAT SUSTAINED A JUST AND COMPASSIONATE
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SOCIETY.I AM GONNA READ YOU ONE OF THESE BAND BOOKS BEFORE I SAY THAT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS IN THIS ROOM TODAY, BUT GOD ISN'T ONE OF 'EM BECAUSE GOD DOES NOT TALK ABOUT CHILDREN THE WAY THAT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE HERE DID TODAY.
ALRIGHT? IN THE GARDEN, GRANDDAD GROWS ALL KINDS OF FRUIT AND VEGETABLES.
THERE'S A BIG CHERRY TREE, WHICH IF YOU SHAKE JUST ENOUGH, YUM.
BUT MY FAVORITE THING TO DO AT GRANDDAD'S HOUSE IS SNUGGLE UP ON THE SOFA AND LISTEN TO GRANDDAD.
TELL ME ABOUT ALL THE AMAZING PLACES HE AND GRAMPS WOULD EXPLORE.
YOUR GRAMPS WAS QUITE THE ADVENTURER.
HE WAS TALL AND HANDSOME AND EXCELLENT AT SO MANY THINGS.
SOON AFTER WE MET, HE INVITED ME ON VACATION WITH HIM.
SO WE SET OFF IN HIS CAMPER TO THE SEASIDE.
IN THE DAYTIME WE SERVED ATE FISH AND CHIPS AND HAD A SAND CASTLE COMPETITION.
I THINK I WON IN THE EVENINGS, WE'D HAVE BONFIRES ON THE BEACH AND WATCH THE TIDE GOING IN AND OUT OF THE BAY.
ONE AFTERNOON, GRAHAM SAID TO ME, THERE ARE SO MANY WONDERFUL THINGS IN THIS WORLD AND I WANT TO SEE THEM ALL WITH YOU.
SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID.
GRAHAM'S ALWAYS WANTED TO VISIT THE CITY.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE WENT FIRST.
WE DROVE THROUGH TAR DARK TUNNELS, OVER FANCY BRIDGES, AND IN BETWEEN TOWER AND SKYSCRAPERS.
EVERYWHERE WE WENT WAS FULL OF LIFE.
THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE, SO MANY ANIMALS AND SO MANY THINGS TO SEE.
WE SAW LOTS OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF HOMES FROM HIGH RISE APARTMENTS TO TOWNHOUSES.
BUT WE ARE HAPPY WITH OUR LITTLE HOME ON WHEELS, WHICH WE COULD TAKE WHEREVER WE PLEASED.
GRANDDAD PUTS DOWN HIS PHOTO ALBUM AND SMILES.
I CAN SEE HOW MUCH HE LOVES THOSE MEMORIES.
STEVIE HUBBARD, VIE HUBBARD FROM ROYAL VIRGINIA.
AND I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT WE ARE HERE AGAIN.
WE'VE LOST A VALUABLE LIBRARIAN AT THIS POINT.
UM, I'M NOT QUITE CERTAIN WHAT THE END GAME WAS LIKE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE MAYBE THERE'S A LITTLE PANDERING GOING ON JUST TO MAKE THEM FEEL HURT OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IS WE'RE PAYING A FORTUNE IN LEGAL FEES AS IT IS.
IT'S DISCRIMINATION AND THERE'S NO POINT IN DOING IT.
YOU COULD TAKE IT OVER AND YOU COULD SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WAY.
IT, THESE BOOKS WEREN'T HURTING ANYONE.
NOBODY WAS HURT BY THESE BOOKS.
NO IMAGINARY FOUR YEAR OLD CHILD PUT THEIR HAND ON A BOOK.
AND YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW THAT VICKI COOK BECAUSE YOU WERE AT THAT PICNIC AND YOU'RE THE ONE THAT TOLD THEM TO CHANGE IT FROM L G B T Q TO PORNOGRAPHY.
SO YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE VOTED ON THIS.
YOU FILLED OUT TWO FORMS REQUESTING BOOKS TO BE BANNED THAT YOU DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE DECENCY TO READ.
YOU ASKED TO HAVE A BOOK BANNED THAT YOU HAD NEVER READ.
AND WHO'S BE WHO'S BEING INDOCTRINATED HERE? WHO GOES AGAINST SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE NEVER, THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW FIRSTHAND IS TO BE WRONG.
WHERE WAS THE PORNOGRAPHY? WHERE WAS THE PORNOGRAPHY? DOLORES, I LOVE YOU.
I KNOW IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT 'CAUSE I'M UPSET WITH THIS THOMAS HENNE THING, BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE RECUSED YOURSELF FROM THAT VOTE WHEN YOU HAD THAT.
AND LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, THIS GROUP DOESN'T THINK YOU HAVE A TRUE CHURCH.
SO AFTER THIS LOW HANGING FRUIT IS TAKEN OVER, THEY'RE GONNA KEEP GOING AND GOING AND GOING.
THAT'S HOW PEOPLE THAT DO THESE THINGS HAVE.
WE ALL HAVE A RIGHT TO BELIEVE.
THAT IS WHY THIS COUNTRY IS THE WONDERFUL PLACE THAT IT IS.
THAT IS WHY PEOPLE CAME HERE SO THEY COULD ESCAPE RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION.
YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL ME HOW TO BELIEVE.
YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL ME WHAT MY GOD BELIEVES BECAUSE MY GOD NO.
DOES NOT BELIEVE ANY OF THESE.
SOMEBODY THIS THREE MINUTES ARE UP.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. HENDERSON.
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MY NAME IS.MY NAME IS KELSEY LAWRENCE AND I LIVE IN THE FORK DISTRICT.
WE HAVE SPENT THE LAST THREE MONTHS ADVOCATING FOR OUR LIBRARY TO YOU AND TO OUR COMMUNITY.
IT IS A VALUABLE INSTITUTION WHICH SHOULD BE PROTECTED.
IT IS A SAFE SPACE FOR ALL CHILDREN AND IT IS A PLACE WHERE ALL FAMILIES SHOULD BE REPRESENTED.
WE HAVE LISTENED TO AND WATCHED MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD USE THE SAME MESSAGING OF THE OPPOSITION.
WE WATCHED YOU VOTE ON JULY 13TH, I'M SORRY, JUNE 13TH, WITH ONLY ONE INDIVIDUAL ABSTAINING.
LITTLE DID I KNOW IN JUNE THAT THIS BEGAN IN JANUARY AND THAT MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD WERE INVOLVED IN THIS ENTIRE SCHEME.
WE KNOW OF MR. BUTLER'S ATTEMPTS TO REMOVE TWO BOOKS HIMSELF.
HE SAYS, I QUOTE, THIS TYPE OF LITERATURE IS INAPPROPRIATE IN A PUBLICLY FUNDED LIBRARY AND ONLY BE AVAILABLE IN AN ADULT BOOKSTORE.
THERE IS A GRAMMATICAL ERROR THERE, MR. BUTLER, YOU FORGOT THE WORD SHOULD, BUT YOU ONLY NEED TO LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE TO SEE THAT YOU ALSO SPELLED SHELVES WRONG AS WELL.
BUT E WE ALL KNOW THAT EVEN IF YOU KNEW WHERE THEY WERE, YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE READ 'EM ANYWAY.
WE ALSO KNOW OF DOLORES OATS AND MR. HENT AND WE KNOW OF MR. MAE AND HIS BROKEN PROMISES TO HIS VOTERS.
AND MADAM CHAIR, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE YOU TO THANK FOR THE SWITCH FROM L G B T Q CONTENT TO EXPLICIT CONTENT.
IT WAS YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO GO WITH SOMETHING LESS DISCRIMINATORY, BUT MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE TOLD THEM TO TAKE THEIR LIST DOWN BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE BOOK ON THIS LIST HAS ONE THING IN COMMON AND THAT IT HAS AN L G B T Q CHARACTER THAT IS THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE IN COMMON IN THE JANUARY MINUTES OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WHEN BOOK BANNING WAS BROUGHT UP TO YOU, MRS. COLORS LET THEM KNOW OF THE REQUEST FOR REMOVAL PROCESS AS WELL AS WHO THE LIBRARY LIAISON IS.
NOW WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE, THE FUTURE OF THE LIBRARY AND THE BOOKS ON THE SHELVES.
SHELVES WITH AN S MR. BUTLER BANNING BOOKS JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE L G B T Q CHARACTERS IS DISCRIMINATION AND A LAWSUIT.
SEGREGATING L G B T BOOKS IN THEIR OWN LITTLE SECTION IS ALSO DISCRIMINATION.
AND ANO TEXAS IS CURRENTLY PAYING 180 K IN LAWYER'S FEES BECAUSE THEY FORCED BOOKS TO BE REMOVED AND THEY STILL MADE THEM PUT THE BOOKS BACK ON THE SHELF BECAUSE IT IS A VIOLATION OF FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
ALSO, BOOKSELLERS AND AUTHORS IN TEXAS ARE SUING BOOK BANNERS AND THE POLITICIANS WHO LISTEN TO THEM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. HENDERSON, CHARLES STEWART, UH, CHARLES CHIP STEWART.
I'M DISTRICT THANK YOU AND I TO READ A SELECTION YEAR OF WHAT'S LABELED, UH, SEXUALLY EXPLICIT MATERIAL.
SO COVER EAR CORRESPONDING AUTHOR.
MOST DADDIES ARE BOYS, BUT LOTS OF PARENTS ARE NEITHER A BOY NOR A GIRL LIKE MY MADDIE.
SOMETIMES MY MADDIE'S EYES LOOK GREEN AND SOMETIMES THEY LOOK BROWN.
SOMETIMES THEY LOOK LIKE BOTH OR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
MADDIE SAYS IT'S A BEAUTIFUL COLOR, ALL ITS OWN.
MADDIE'S HAIR FLOWS FROM SORT OF BROWN TO SORT OF BLONDE TO KIND OF BOTH, BUT NOT REALLY EITHER.
IF ONLY THERE WERE A WORD LIKE HAZEL FOR HAIR.
MADDIE WAKES UP AT THE CRACK OF DAWN.
BEFORE I GET UP, I LIKE WATCHING THE SUNRISE.
MAD TELLS ME IT'S NOT DAY AND IT'S NOT NIGHT.
IT'S SOMETHING IN BETWEEN AND KIND OF BOTH AND SOMETHING ALL ITS OWN.
THIS GUY CHANGES FROM RED TO PINK TO YELLOW EVERY MORNING.
MADDIE DRINKS COFFEE WHILE EATING BREAKFAST WITH A SPORK.
IT'S NOT A SPOON OR A FORK, BUT KIND OF BOTH.
THAT WAY YOU ONLY NEED ONE, ONE UTENSIL EVERY DAY.
MADDIE WALKS ME TO AND FROM SCHOOL.
WE TALK ABOUT ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE TIME OF THE YEAR? MAD FALLEN.
SPRING SAYS, MADDIE LEAVES TURN COLOR IN THE FALL, I SAY, AND IN THE SPRING, FLOWERS BLOOM.
THINGS CHANGE IN THE SPRING AND THE FALL BEFORE MADDIE LEAVES, I GET A BIG KISS.
MADDIE'S KISSES FEEL LIKE SANDPAPER AGAINST MY FACE WHILE I'M IN SCHOOL.
MADDIE RIDES A MOTORCYCLE TO WORK.
MADDIE ALWAYS SAYS, MAYBE SOMEDAY MADDIE WILL TAKE ME FOR A RIDE ON IT.
BUT MADDIE PICKS ME UP FROM SCHOOL.
ONE DAY ON HER WAY HOME, IT STARTED THE DRIZZLE, THE SUN'S SHONE THROUGH THE RAINDROPS.
LOOK, I POINT TOWARDS THE SKY.
THE MOST BEAUTIFUL THINGS HAPPEN BETWEEN THE RAIN AND THE
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SUN.DON'T THEY SAID, MADDIE, WHEN I GET HOME, IT'S AFTER LUNCH, BUT BEFORE DINNER, I'M USUALLY STARVING BY THEN MADDIE FIXES ME A SNACK TO TIDE ME OVER AFTER DINNER BEFORE BEDTIME.
THERE ARE ABOUT IMAGINARY THINGS, BUT MADDIE MAKES 'EM FEEL REAL EVERY NIGHT.
MY SWEET CHILD SAYS MADDY, GOODNIGHT.
SLEEP WELL AND HAVE MAGICAL DREAMS IN BETWEEN THE TIME I FALL ASLEEP AND THE TIME I WAKE UP, I DO SOME OF THE BEST THINGS IN THE WORLD ARE NOT ONE THING OR THE OTHER, BUT IN BETWEEN AND KIND OF BOTH.
AND SOMETHING ENTIRELY FANTASTICALLY THEIR OWN.
UM, I, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, I HAVE A BACHELOR'S IN SCIENCE IN CHILD DEVELOPMENT AND A MASTER'S IN CHILD DEVELOPMENT FROM TULSA UNIVERSITY.
AND I'VE SPENT A COUPLE DECADES, UH, SERVING CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.
UM, BUT BEFORE I BEGIN WITH WHAT I PREPARED TODAY, I, I AM A LITTLE TAKEN ABACK AT THE FACT THAT LEE, WHO IS 13 YEARS OLD AND HAS BEEN BRAVE ENOUGH, BRAVER THAN MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WOULD'VE DONE AT 13 IF I HAD TO STAND UP IN FRONT OF A GROUP OF ADULTS AND DEFEND WHO I WAS.
I WANNA KNOW WHY LIAM HAS BEEN TWICE ASKED FOR THEIR ADDRESS WHEN NO ONE ELSE.
THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT LIAM WAS THE FIRST, THE FIRST PERSON ASKED.
AND I HAVE TO WONDER, IS THAT INTIMIDATION? YES, BUT I'LL GO ON BECAUSE I WANT TO TALK TODAY TO THE TAXPAYERS OF WARREN COUNTY ABOUT WHAT THIS IS GOING TO TAKE FROM THEIR POCKETBOOKS, FROM MY POCKETBOOK AND FROM ALL OF OUR POCKETBOOKS.
THIS SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE ARE NOW CALLING THE CLEANUP SAMUELS GROUP, UM, WHICH I KNOW MANY OF YOU'RE INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH, UM, ARE NOW CALLING FOR THE MAKING OF OUR LIBRARY.
A GOVERNMENT ENTITY THAT WILL COST AN ADDITIONAL MILLION DOLLARS JUST IN, UH, APPROXIMATELY.
SO NOT EVEN ACCOUNTING FOR INFLATION AND OPERATING EXPENSES.
UM, PAYING THE BENEFITS FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND THE LOSS OF THE USE OF VOLUNTEERS.
SO WE WOULD HAVE OUR, AS A TAXPAYER, UM, I WOULD BE PAYING THE BILL FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL HOURS.
UM, SO IT BASICALLY DOUBLES THE MONEY THAT THE TAXPAYER WILL BE PAYING PER YEAR FOR THE LIBRARY FROM 1 MILLION TO 2 MILLION.
AND THAT IS A, THAT IS A, UM, CONSERVATIVE NUMBER.
BUT BEYOND THAT, LET'S LOOK AT WHAT THIS IS ACTUALLY GONNA COST THE TAXPAYERS IN LAWSUITS.
UM, ANO COUNTY, TEXAS HAS RACKED UP $184,000 SINCE 2021.
UH, FOR SIMILAR YOUR THREE MINUTES TO WRAP.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. HENDERSON.
HI, I'M SARAH DOWNS AND I LIVE IN THE NORTH RIVER DISTRICT.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A STORY TIME.
THIS IS ONE OF THE BOOKS THEY WOULD LIKE TO, UM, CUT.
IT'S CALLED PRIDE COLORS BY ROBIN STEVENSON.
A BRIGHT RED HEART, A LITTLE STAR.
I LOVE YOU JUST THE WAY YOU ARE.
YELLOW SUNSHINE SMILES SO BRIGHT.
I'LL HUG YOU, KISS YOU AND HOLD YOU TIGHT, SOFT GREEN GRASS, COOL SHADY TREES.
I LOVE THE PERSON YOU GROW TO BE.
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A WHOLE WIDE WORLD IS HERE FOR YOU.YOU ARE MY VERY PRECIOUS CHILD.
I'LL ALWAYS LOVE YOU LITTLE ONE.
AND THEN WE ALSO CREATED A FACT SHEET FOR YOU GUYS ON HOW MUCH IT COULD POTENTIALLY COST TAXPAYERS TO BE NOT ONLY PAYING LEGAL FEES FOR ANY LAWSUITS FROM NOT FUNDING THE LIBRARY OR REMOVING BOOKS, BUT ALSO HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO FULLY CREATE A PUBLIC LIBRARY.
AND THESE ARE ESTIMATES OVER THE YEARS, UM, FROM 2017 AND ON
SO YEAH, WE JUST GATHERED SOME FACTS FOR YOU GUYS.
I, UM, SPOKE WITH EILEEN AT THE LIBRARY, UM, THE NEW DIRECT, THE INTERIM DIRECTOR.
AND SHE SAID THAT WE HAD 8,000 VOLUNTEER HOURS LAST YEAR.
AND IF WE WERE TO PAY EACH OF THOSE HOURS AT $32 AN HOUR, WHICH IS ESTIMATED BY THE VIRGINIA STATE, IT WOULD COST US $256,000 A YEAR ALONE JUST IN VOLUNTEER HOURS THAT WE WOULD LOSE.
UM, SO I JUST REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO STOP MAKING US PAY TAXES, PAY LEGAL FEES.
WE ALREADY ARE, HAVE LEGAL FEES FROM THE E D A.
THAT'S RIDICULOUS THAT WE'RE STILL PAYING ON THOSE.
LIKE MY TAX MONEY SHOULD BE GOING TO ROADS AND SCHOOLS.
IT SHOULDN'T BE GOING TO LEGAL FEES.
UM, AND IT WOULD BE RIDICULOUS AND FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE TO EVEN CONSIDER NOT FUNDING THE LIBRARY OR BUYING OUT THE LIBRARY.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE WOULD GET THAT MONEY.
UM, BUT I JUST REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO STOP MAKING TAXPAYERS PAY LEGAL FEES AND TO REALLY READ THE BOOKS BECAUSE PRIDE COLORS.
I DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING TOO BAD ABOUT THAT.
RORY REALLY ENJOYS IT AND IT'S VERY COLORFUL.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE LIBRARY TONIGHT.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THREE POINTS TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THIS EVENING.
FIRST, YOU HEARD MY HUSBAND SPEAK ABOUT MRS. COOK.
I ALSO KNOW VICKI AND I REALLY LIKE HER AS CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD.
I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE HER MY FULL SUPPORT ALONG WITH MANY OF MY FRIENDS.
SHE'S DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB UNDER DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES.
SECOND, I QUESTION WHETHER IT IS ETHICAL BY MR. HENRY, THE VICE CHAIR OF THE COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION TO PERSONALLY ATTACK MRS. COOK IN HER ROLE AS CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD.
WHAT DOES MRS. COOK'S PERFORMANCE HAVE TO DO WITH THE COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION? IT APPEARS TO BE A PURELY POLITICAL ATTACK.
LAST I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MRS. CULLERS THE QUESTION REGARDING THE BUDGET OF THE SHE'S OFFICE.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I ASSUME MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAVE AND SHOULD TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE ANNUAL BUDGET.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING ALL FIVE BOARD MEMBERS, INCLUDING YOU, APPROVE THE CURRENT FISCAL BUDGET.
WHY ARE YOU NOW PUBLICLY QUESTIONING THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET? PUTTING DOUBTS IN PEOPLE'S MINDS ABOUT THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE? IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS SUBMITTED AN EXCELLENT BUDGET THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
IF FUNDS ARE NOT NEEDED AS EXPECTED, THE MONEY IS RETURNED TO THE GENERAL FUND.
MY NAME IS MARIA O'BRIEN AND I LIVE IN THE FORK DISTRICT OF WARREN COUNTY.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU AS THE BOARD FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE THUS FAR IN ENSURING THAT OUR COUNTY LIBRARY, WHICH RECEIVES OUR TAXPAYER FUNDS, WORKS TO CURATE THE CHILDREN'S SECTION TO REFLECT THE STANDARDS OF DECENCY AND THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.
SIMILARLY, YOUR WORK ON THE MISSING M O A AND THE BUDGET ARE SEEN AND APPRECIATED.
WHILE THE PROCESS IS NOT COMPLETE, I AM CONFIDENT THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL CONTINUE TO HEAR LOCAL PARENTS' WELL-FOUNDED CONCERNS REGARDING LIBRARY CONTENT AS WELL AS CONTINUE TO ENSURE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.
UM, AS A SIDE NOTE, JUST IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE BOOKS THAT WERE READ, I DON'T SEE THOSE ON A, ON A BAND LIST.
I DID SEE SOME CONTENT TONIGHT THAT IS STILL IN THE LIBRARY AND IS STILL OBJECTIONABLE.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE IT'S, UM, ONE FORM OR ANOTHER, BUT IT IS SEXUALLY EXPLICIT AND
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IT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT WHAT CHILDREN SHOULD COME ACROSS.AND FOR THOSE WHO SAY THAT CHILDREN DON'T COME ACROSS IT AND THERE'S NO FOUR YEAR OLD THAT'S GRABBED IT.
UM, WHEN THIS WHOLE THING CAME TO LIGHT, SOME OF MY TEENAGERS TOLD ME THAT ACTUALLY SOME TIME AGO, THEY DID COME ACROSS SOME GRAPHIC NOVELS IN THE TEEN SECTION THAT WERE SEXUALLY EXPLICIT AND THEY KIND OF OF LIKE CLOSED THE BOOKS AND PUT THEM AWAY.
BUT THE FACT THAT THEY CAME IN THAT THEY SAW THEM DURING A TIME THAT I, I WOULD NOT HAVE, I WOULD NOT HAVE HAD THEM SEE THEM AT THAT AGE AT ALL.
I DON'T, I DON'T NEED THAT IN THEIR LIVES.
UM, IT'S COMING AT THEM FROM, FROM EVERY ANGLE ALREADY.
UM, SECONDLY, AS A RESIDENT OF THE FORK DISTRICT, I'M WHOLLY IN SUPPORT OF VICKI COOK AND WILL WORK AGAINST ANY EFFORTS TO RECALL HER IN THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
I DON'T KNOW IF HUGH HENRY WAS SERIOUS AND WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE ACTION ON THIS THREAT, BUT IF SO, AS A BOARD, MAY I ASK YOU WHY WOULD HE WANT VICKI COOK GONE? FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, VICKI STANDS IN THE WAY OF THE VERY PEOPLE POLITICS AND UNDERHAND DEALS THAT ENABLE THE MASSIVE E D A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY SCANDAL FROM WHICH OUR COMMUNITY IS STILL REELING BOTH ECONOMICALLY AND POLITICALLY.
SO WHY, WHY WOULD HUGH HENRY A LOCAL BUILDER WANT VICKI COOK AN ASTUTE FISCAL CONSERVATIVE GONE? AND WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING ON WITH THE WARREN COUNTY BUILDERS ASSOCIATION? THANK YOU MR. HENDERSON.
CHRIS NELSON, FRONT ROYAL, THANK YOU.
THIS HAS ALL BEEN A FARCE FROM THE BEGINNING.
WE HAVE PRIVATE EMAILS OF CATHOLIC GROUPS CHATS PROVING THAT IT'S BEEN A FARCE FROM THE BEGINNING.
WHOEVER ISAAC EASTON IS PUT INFORMATION ABOUT THAT THEY WERE PUTTING A WHOLE GAMUT OF CHILD GROOMING FOR L G B, TRANS, ET CETERA.
IT WAS GREAT AND IMPORTANT TO HIT ALL OF THESE ISSUES BECAUSE WE WANT THEM ALL GETTING RID OF, MR. BUTLER ASSURED US TWO WEEKS AGO, HE DIDN'T WANT ANY OF THE BOOKS GETTING RID OF, THOUGH WE HAVE GOT 1500 PAGES OF FOIA REQUESTS WITH YOUR NAME ON IT, ASKING THEM DIRECTLY TO BE 1500 PAGES OF EMAILS REQUESTING THEM TO BE COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY REMOVED.
AND IT WASN'T BECAUSE OF PORN.
IT WAS TOLD TO THE PUBLIC TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE USING THE, UM, BROADER, FOR THE BROADER PUBLIC.
WE WANT TO FOCUS EXCLUSIVELY ON GRAPHIC PORN BEING AVAILABLE TO CHILDREN.
YOU WERE BAMBOOZLED FROM THE BEGINNING, THE ENTIRE PUBLIC.
WE SAT HERE ON JUNE 6TH AND HAD TO LISTEN TO EVERY NONSENSE AFTER EVERY NONSENSE, AFTER EVERY NONSENSE.
YET MR. EGGERS COMES IN FRONT OF YOU ALL, EVERY TWO WEEKS, AND YOU WILL ALLOW HIM TO SPEAK OF HATE WHEN PEOPLE HERE ARE IN TEARS LISTENING TO IT ACROSS THIS COUNTRY.
YOU CAN GO ON YOUTUBE AND FIND ANY RESPONSE THAT YOU WANT.
YOU'VE ALL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BACK TO THAT HATE, YET YOU ALLOW IT WEEK AFTER WEEK AFTER WEEK.
YOU NEED TO BE HONEST WITH THE, YOUR VOTERS, THEY ALL ELECTED YOU.
AND I UNDERSTAND YOU TWO ARE PART OF THIS LITTLE GROUP.
THAT'S WHY SHE WAS INVOLVED WITH THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, MIND YOU, BECAUSE OF SHERIFF BUTLER AND RUNNING AGAINST HER OPPONENT.
DO WE IS DO WE HAVE, THIS WILL BE THE LAST, UH, NOBODY ELSE HAS SIGNED UP, MA'AM.
WELL, WE GOT TWO MORE MINUTES, SO LET'S TAKE A BREAK.
WHAT'S THAT? LET'S TAKE A BREAK.
DO YOU WANNA TAKE A BREAK? YEP.
WE'RE GONNA, UM, TAKE A, WHAT? FIVE MINUTE MAYBE ONE FIVE MINUTE BREAK.
WE'RE TAKING A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.
[E. Reports – Board Members, County Administrator, County Attorney]
FOR MY REPORT, AUGUST 4TH, THE WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS HAD THEIR CONVOCATION IN THE, UM, EARLY MORNING HOURS OF THAT DAY.AND, UM, WHAT A PLEASURE THAT WAS TO GO TO, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S EVER HEARD DR.
MARTIN, WHO IS A FORMER SUPERINTENDENT, BUT HE PUT ON, I I, I SAID I CRIED TEARS OF HAPPINESS BECAUSE IT WAS SO DARN
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FUNNY.HE DID AN ART LINK LETTER WITH CHILDREN AND IT WAS, UM, IT WAS JUST LIKE WATCHING ART LINK LETTER AGAIN.
AND THEN HE DID HIS STORY OF WHERE HE CAME FROM, UH, AS A POOR CHILD IN A VERY DYSFUNCTIONAL FAMILY TO END UP IN THE CAREER THAT HE HAD, WHICH TOOK ME TO TEARS FOR THAT.
SO, UM, I SKIPPED ALL THOSE WHEN I WAS EMPLOYED AS A SCHOOL NURSE BECAUSE I THOUGHT MY TIME WAS BETTER SPENT GETTING MY CLINIC READY FOR THE KIDS.
AND, UM, I'M, I'M GLAD I WAS ABLE TO GO THIS.
IT, IT WAS VERY, UM, I, I REALLY APPRECIATED IT.
WE HAD A BUILDING COMMITTEE MEETING ON, UM, NO, WAIT A MINUTE.
AND I JUST WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO A LONG TIME, UM, SCHOOL EMPLOYEE IN THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT.
JOHN LOCKHART WAS HONORED FOR HIS, UH, SERVICE TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, AND IT WAS VERY WELL DESERVED.
UM, AUGUST 10TH, WE HAD OUR BUILDING COMMITTEE MEETING.
GOT A LOT OF PROJECTS, UH, GOING ON.
A LOT OF, UM, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE, JUST LIKE BEING A HOMEOWNER.
EVERYTHING, UH, ALWAYS NEEDS SOME ATTENTION AND NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO GET IT ALL DONE, DONE, BUT WE'RE FIGURING THAT OUT AS WE GO.
UM, RIBBON CUTTING FOR A NEW BUSINESS DOWNTOWN.
ARIANA WHITED IS A YOUNG LADY WHO HAS TAKEN ON A BIG TASK, BUT, UM, IT WAS A VERY, VERY POPULAR, UM, RIBBON CUTTING AN OPEN EVENT, AND I WISH HER WELL.
MAIN STREET IS BEGINNING TO THRIVE.
AND I REMEMBER GROWING UP HERE, UM, EVERYTHING YOU DID, YOU DID ON MAIN STREET.
AND SO IT'S, UM, I'M, I'M GLAD TO SEE THE BUILDINGS GETTING FILLED UP AND ACTIVITIES.
IT'S GOOD, GOOD FOR, UM, TOURISM AS WELL.
AND, UM, AS PEOPLE WHO TRAVEL ON THREE 40 HAVE PROBABLY SEEN AT THE 3 46 19, UH, INTERSECTION AT THE LIGHT.
THERE'S NEW PAVEMENT DOWN AND REFLECTOR TABS AND THE OLD PATTERN.
AND I SAID, I, I'M GONNA HAVE AN ULCER BEFORE THIS PAINT JOB IS DONE TO GET IT IN THE RIGHT PATTERN.
THE NEW PATTERN FROM SKYLINE VISTA DRIVE, WHICH IS WHERE YOU TURN IN TO GO TO SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL, THE RIGHT LANE IS GONNA BE A RIGHT TURN ONLY LANE.
SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO SIX 19, INSTEAD OF GETTING UP THERE AND EVERYBODY'S CUTTING EVERYBODY OFF, IF YOU GET IN THAT RIGHT LANE, YOU'RE GOING TO SIX 19, IT SHOULD BE SMOOTH SAILING THROUGH THERE.
IF YOU'RE GOING SOUTH ON TO UM, THREE 40, YOU GET IN THE LEFT LANE AND YOU GO THROUGH THE LIGHT IN THE LEFT LANE.
NOW, IF THEY DON'T MESS IT UP AND PUT IT IN THE OLD PATTERN, LIFE SHOULD BE GOOD AFTER THIS.
BUT THE REFLECTOR TABS ARE IN THE OLD PATTERN.
SO, UM, WHEN YOU GO UP THERE, WE HAVE CARS GOING SIDE BY SIDE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT.
SOMEBODY'S GOTTA GIVE FOLKS 'CAUSE YOU'RE GOING DOWN TO ONE LANE.
AND I WAS TOLD THAT RES STRIPING WOULD BE DONE THIS WEEK AND THE NEW SIGNAGE PUT UP.
I SAID I, I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO PUT A TENT UP IN THE MEDIUM STRIP AND THROW MY BODY IN FRONT OF THE PAINT TRUCK IN CASE THEY START TO DO IT WRONG.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN A THREE AND A HALF YEAR PROJECT THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON, AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ALMOST THERE.
UM, AND IT WILL BE MUCH BETTER.
JUST, UM, A REMINDER, IF ANYONE HASN'T SEEN IT, THE RIVERMONT FIRE DEPARTMENT IS HAVING A SPAGHETTI FUNDRAISING DINNER AUGUST 19TH, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THIS SATURDAY FROM FIVE TO SEVEN.
SO, UM, IF YOU GO OUT AND SUPPORT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE VOLUNTEERS, UM, THAT MONEY GOES TOWARD HELPING PAY FOR EQUIPMENT THAT, UM, THAT THEY NEED.
AND ON AUGUST 31ST, THE WARREN COALITION IS RECOGNIZING INTERNATIONAL OVERDOSE AWARENESS DAY.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A RESOURCE FAIR AND A CANDLE LIKE VIGIL AT THE MOOSE AT SIX 30.
AND EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO COME TO BAT.
UH, I THINK THEY, WHAT I WAS, UH, THE EMAIL I SENT, IF, IF SOMEONE HAS BEEN AFFECTED BY AN OVERDOSE IN YOUR FAMILY, YOU'RE WELCOME TO SHARE THAT.
AND, UM, WHATEVER YOU WANNA DO, DO OR JUST GO AND AND BE THERE.
UM, I WANT TO SHOUT OUT TO NORTH WARREN VOLUNTEER FIRE AND RESCUE NORTH WARREN.
SO IT'S NO SECRET THAT IT'S HARD TO RECRUIT FIREFIGHTERS AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL TECHNICIANS.
AND NORTH WARREN VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT WENT TO A BIRTHDAY PARTY AND DECIDED TO ENGAGE YOUNG KIDS IN WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A FIREMAN.
AND JUST SHOUT OUT TO THE FACT THAT THEY ARE STARTING TO RECRUIT IN KINDERGARTEN.
AND SO AS A RECRUITER, I THINK IT'S REALLY SMART.
UM, THE SECOND THING IS THAT WARREN COUNTY FAIR WAS LAST WEEK, AND IT WAS AMAZING.
UM, ON FRIDAY NIGHT, IT WAS SO CROWDED FOR THE TRACK OR SATURDAY NIGHT
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YES.THE TRACTOR, OR NO, IT WAS THE MONSTER TRUCKS THAT YOU HAD TO PARK IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK DOWN AT THE END OF THE ROAD THAT RUNS BEHIND IT IN ORDER TO GET INTO THE FAIR.
SO, UM, SHOUT OUT TO THE FAIR PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY MAINTAIN THEIR COMPOSURE DURING THAT WHOLE THING AND DID A VERY GOOD JOB AT PARKING PEOPLE.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION, UM, THAT I ALSO ATTENDED THE, UH, GRAND OPENING FOR DOWNTOWN BLENDS AND ARIANA WEIGHTED, AND GINA JAAL, OUR PARTNERS IN THAT.
I HAD AN ORANGE DREAM SICKLE SHAKE THAT ONLY HAD 250 CALORIES AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE LOW SUGAR.
I, I DIDN'T TEST IT TO MAKE SURE, BUT IT WAS EXCELLENT.
AND WE, UH, NEED TO DO A LOT TO SUPPORT THESE YOUNG PEOPLE.
THIS WAS THE SECOND TIME IN AS MANY MONTHS THAT SOMEBODY UNDER, UH, 21 OR YOUNGER OPENED A BUSINESS ON MAIN STREET.
AND I THINK THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY AND, UM, THE ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT, UH, THAT WE'RE ENCOURAGING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THEN FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE OVERDOSE AWARENESS.
UM, FOR THREE AND A HALF YEARS WE WORKED ON ESTABLISHING A DRUG COURT.
AND THE REASON THAT WE DID THAT WAS BECAUSE IF YOU ESTABLISH A DRUG COURT, YOU WILL ALSO GET OPIOID, UH, RESOURCES IN THE COMMUNITY, COUNSELING RESOURCES TO HELP YOUNG PEOPLE, OLD PEOPLE, AND EVERY PEOPLE.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE INITIATIVES THAT, UM, I WORKED ON ALONG WITH FORMER COUNCILMAN GARY GILLESPIE.
AND IT IS SO CRITICAL TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE SUPPORT THE DRUG COURT, WHICH I THINK IS HAVING THEIR FIRST AGENDA.
IS IT NEXT MONTH? FIRST CASE? UH, FIRST, FIRST CASE DOCKET GOING THROUGH, UH, THE FIRST OFFICIAL CASES WILL BE, AND THEN ANOTHER WEEK.
AND, AND IT'S, WE HAVE ONE PRACTICE CASE RIGHT NOW, MA'AM.
AND IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE SUPPORT BECAUSE THE RESOURCES, THE COUNSELING RESOURCES THAT COME ALONG WITH THE DRUG COURT ARE SO IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
PRIOR TO OUR COMMITMENT TO DRUG COURT, THERE WERE LITTLE TO NO RESOURCES TO HELP WITH, UM, WITH ADDICTION.
UM, LAST MONDAY, I, I DID, UM, CONS CON CONSTITUENTS.
WE DID SOME PHONE CALLS, DID PLENTY OF EMAILS, AND DID STUDYING FOR THE NEXT DAY.
UH, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING WAS TUESDAY.
UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS ON WEDNESDAY.
AND THE TEA TEACHER RECOGNITION, UM, DINNER OR LUNCH, THAT WAS, UM, WEDNESDAY AS WELL.
AND THEN, UH, THURSDAY I LEFT ROANOKE, VIRGINIA AND MY 40TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY.
SO IT WAS OVERALL A QUIET WEEK FOR WALT.
UH, THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO REPORT IS THAT, UM, OUR FINANCE AUDIT COMMITTEE, UH, MET, UH, THIS, THIS PAST WEEK AND, UM, WE'RE JUST MOVING ON AND CONTINUING SEEING WHAT, HOW WE CAN, UM, IMPROVE OUR INTERNAL CONTROLS.
OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO JUST SAY.
WOULD REMIND YOU OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PROMOTIONAL CEREMONY NEXT WEDNESDAY, THE 23RD AT 6:00 PM AT SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL AT THE AUDITORIUM.
YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE SCHOOLS.
THEY ARE IN SESSION, SO WE WOULD REMIND EVERYONE TO JUST BE A LITTLE MORE ALERT LOOKING OUT RIGHT NOW.
AND ALSO AT THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS A DRAFT, UM, AGREEMENT TO RENEWAL WITH THE LIBRARY, AND THAT WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE LIBRARY IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.
MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS,
[F. Appropriations and Transfers]
UH, APPROVAL OF OUR APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS.ARE THEY ANY, UM, BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE REPORT? THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAD WAS THE PARKS AND RECREATION TRANSFER TO BALANCE FOR THE CLOSE OF F Y 2223.
DID THEY RUN OVER $51,000 OR WAS THAT, UM, A, AN ERROR? SORRY, ALYSSA
YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 23? IT, IT'S, YEAH, IT'S ON THE
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20 22, 20 23 BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS.UH, PARKS AND RECREATION TRANSFER TO BALANCE FOR THE CLOSE OF THE F Y 2223 BUDGET.
THEY DID NOT RUN OVER THEIR BUDGET.
THEY NEEDED TO TRANSFER WITHIN THEIR OWN DEPARTMENT TO MAKE CERTAIN, UH, LINE ITEMS BALANCE.
OKAY, SO IT WAS JUST FIXING IN THOUGH.
YES, IT'S DUE TO THE CHANGE ADJUSTMENTS OF THE CHART OF ACCOUNTS.
I I, UM, BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS, WAS THE E 9 1 1 TRANSFER OF, UM, 118, WAS THAT TAKEN OUT? I WOULD PROPOSE THAT IT WOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA PACKET.
AND WE WOULD REQUEST THAT, THAT BE REMOVED, MA'AM.
YES, IT'S MR. BUTLER, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, SIR? NO.
WELL, I DO HAVE A, A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
THIS IS IN REGARD TO THE, UM, UH, E D A AUTHORITY.
THIS IS JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD, THE OKAY.
'CAUSE WE HAVE TWO EEDS, CORRECT? YES.
THE TRANSFER YOU HAVE HERE THIS EVENING IS FOR THE FRONT ROYAL WARREN COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.
SO, UM, ONE QUESTION I HAVE HERE, WE HAVE A LIGHT ITEM THAT'S CALLED PROFESSIONAL FEES FOR LEGAL.
AND I SEE WHEN WE, WHEN WE, THE BOARD APPROVED THE BUDGET, 'CAUSE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, BALANCING THE FISCAL YEAR, RIGHT.
UM, WE OVERRAN BY 60,000, IS THAT, IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO YEAH, AT THE END OF LAST FISCAL YEAR, YOU MAY RECALL WE DID APPROPRIATION FOR BOTH THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE AUTHORITY.
UM, THERE WAS OVERAGES IN THE LEGAL FEES ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SIDE, UM, FOR THE LITIGATION THAT ALSO TRANSLATED INTO THE E D A AS WELL.
UM, LAST YEAR WAS A BUSY YEAR IN LITIGATION REGARDING THE E D A, IF YOU RECALL, UM, AUGUST, A LOT OF THE TRIALS WERE AT COURTHOUSE.
UM, THEY ALSO HAD SOME SETTLEMENTS AND RECOVERIES THROUGHOUT THAT THAT ALSO REQUIRED SOME ATTENTION.
THEY ALSO SOLD A PROPERTY THAT WAS, UM, NOT, YOU KNOW, BUDGET FOR, WHICH WAS A GOOD THING.
UM, SO SOME OF THOSE LEGAL COSTS CARRIED OVER INTO THE NEXT, INTO LAST FISCAL YEAR AND WENT OVER.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE THAT NUMBER.
UM, AND THE NEXT ITEM, IT'S JUST TITLED MISCELLANEOUS MM-HMM.
AND THEN WE HAVE AN ADJUSTMENT OF 606 K MM-HMM.
THE E D A OWNS PROPERTY, UM, AS PART OF THE AFT TECHS PROPERTY AND AS PART OF THAT IT'S IN A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
AND SO THEY'VE BEEN PAYING H O A FEES ON THAT FOR MANY YEARS.
AND THERE WERE SOME BACK 9,000 THAT THEY HADN'T PAID SINCE 2019 THAT WE HAD DISCOVERED AND WAS UNBUDGETED FOR WHICH WE HAD TO PAY FOR THE OTHER REMAINING EXPENSE.
IN MISCELLANEOUS, THERE ARE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE AS E D A RECOVERS FUNDS THAT THOSE FUNDS THEN COME BACK TO THE COUNTY AS A REIMBURSEMENT.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE REST OF THOSE REMAINING FUNDS WERE FOR.
IT WAS TO REIMBURSE THE COUNTY.
AND MOVING FORWARD, WE DO HAVE A BETTER CHART OF ACCOUNTS TO WHICH IT'LL TRACK TRANSFERS FROM THE E D A TO THE COUNTY FOR WHAT THOSE RECOVERIES ARE FOR.
AND THEN LASTLY, I SEE HERE WE HAVE, UM, THE UNITED BANK FOR APTEX AND THEN LEACH RUN, AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, IT FEDERAL.
AND SO WE, AND THESE ARE THE LOANS, CORRECT? CORRECT.
WE'RE PAYING FOR THE E D A? CORRECT.
SO WE HAD A CURRENT BUDGET AND THEN WE HAD TO ADJUST IT FOR SOME OVERAGES.
AND MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, IF THESE ARE BANK LOANS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE BALANCE, UH, AT THE BEGINNING EVERY YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A BALANCE, SO I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND, UM, HOW WE HAD TO MAKE THESE ADJUSTMENTS TO THESE LOANS.
SO YEAH, SO THE FIVE LINES THAT YOU'LL SEE, THEY'RE NUMBER ONE, THE BALL DRIVE.
YOU'LL SEE THAT WE ACTUALLY WERE, WE SPENT LESS, AND THAT WAS LESS BECAUSE WE SOLD THAT AND WE WERE ABLE TO PAY THAT LOAN OFF.
THESE FIVE ITEMS ARE THE PRINCIPLE ONLY ON THOSE PAYMENTS.
AT THE TOP YOU'LL SEE THE INTEREST.
THOSE ARE BROKEN DOWN SEPARATELY.
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PAYMENTS THAT WE WILL PAY EVERY MONTH AND TOTALING FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR.ON OTHER ONES IS THAT PRINCIPAL BALANCE AND THE PRINCIPAL PAYMENT AND THE INTEREST PAYMENT MIGHT ADJUST THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
THESE ARE THE ACTUAL, SO AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE RECEIVED A REPORT FROM BOTH OF THESE BANKS FOR, UM, FIRST BANK AND TRUST AND UNITED TO SHOW OUR ACTUAL PAYMENTS FOR, FOR PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, MONTHLY BROKEN DOWN.
AND SO WE'VE ADJUSTED THESE NUMBERS TO SHOW EXACTLY WHAT WE SPENT ON PRINCIPAL PER EACH LOAN AND WHAT EXACTLY WE SPENT ON INTEREST.
IT IS, WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST TO GET THAT MATH CORRECT AT THE ADOPTED BUDGET TIME, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, OVER THE YEAR THAT MIGHT SHIFT A LITTLE BIT.
AND BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE PROCESSES THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ADOPT WITH THE E D A OVER THE LAST YEAR, WE'VE BEEN HELPING PAY MORE ON THAT PRINCIPAL SIDE THAN INTEREST SIDE BY MAKING SURE WE'RE GETTING THOSE PAYMENTS THROUGH THE BANK AS SOON AS WE CAN.
SO WE'RE SLOWLY CHIPPING AWAY AT THAT AND THAT'S ALSO HELPED ADJUST THOSE NUMBERS.
SO THIS IS A TRANSFER THOUGH, CORRECT? SO WE'RE JUST TRANSFERRING, LIKE E ALYSSA JUST EXPLAINED WHAT WE WERE DOING FOR PARKS AND REC.
IF YOU NOTICE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE ADJUST AMOUNT, IT'S A ZERO.
AND AGAIN, THAT WAS ALSO PART OF THAT APPROPRIATION THAT HAPPENED IN JUNE AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, ONE, THE 216,000, IS THAT APPROPRIATING INTO THE GENERAL FUND THEN TO APPROPRIATE TO WHATEVER THEY NEED IT FOR LATER? OR IS THIS GOING DIRECTLY INTO SOMETHING NOW AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT? THIS WOULD BE A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION.
SO THIS WOULD INCREASE THE BUDGET FOR THAT GRANT EXPENSES LINE ITEM KNOWING THAT WE ARE APPROVED FOR THE GRANT AND WE WILL BE REIMBURSED UPON OUR EXPENDITURES BEING SUBMITTED FOR THE GRANT.
SO, SO IT'S NOT COMING OUTTA ANY PLACE, IT'S JUST A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION THAT AUTHORIZES THE INCREASE OF THAT BUDGET.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE WERE USING.
I CAN'T THINK OF THE FLOCK SYSTEM.
WE HAD THIS AT THE WORKING SESSION, RIGHT? YEAH, LAST WEEK.
AND THERE'S AN ATTACHMENT IN THERE THAT LISTS ALL THE OTHER EXPENSES TOO, THAT WE ARE EXPENDING TO EXPECTING TO USE THE 216,000 FOR.
AND LIKE I SAID, YOU SAID IT, WE SPEND IT, THEY REIMBURSE US.
DID YOU HAVE, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT THE, THE WORK SESSION DID NOT HAVE THE ENTIRE $216,000 APPROPRIATED.
IT WAS ACTUALLY 50 COUPLE OF THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE CAMERAS.
SO THE, THE EXTRA MONEY HAS NOT BEEN APPROPRIATED YET, OR NO, THIS, OR DEFINED, RIGHT? YES.
THIS, THIS SPECIFICALLY IS TO REQUEST THAT SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION AND THE EXPENDITURE IS OVER 50,000 FOR THE FLOCK SYSTEM.
SO THAT REQUIRED YOUR APPROVAL.
ALL THE OTHER EXPENSES ARE LESS THAN 50 INDIVIDUALLY.
SO WE THOUGHT AT BEST TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE HOLISTIC PICTURE OF WHAT EXACTLY THIS GRANT IS GOING TO BE USED FOR.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THAT BREAKDOWN OF EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE, UH, IN THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION.
WHERE, WHERE IS THAT? 'CAUSE IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE A BREAKDOWN HERE.
IT JUST SAYS APPROPRIATING 216,000.
IT'S ACTUALLY WITHIN THE FLOCK SYSTEM AGENDA ITEM, YOU'LL SEE THAT ATTACHMENT WITHIN THE FLOCK SYSTEM.
SO IT'S UNDER CONSENT AGENDA, I BELIEVE FOR TONIGHT.
SO I, I GUESS I'M STILL A LITTLE CONFUSED.
IF THIS IS A REIMBURSEMENT, WHY ARE WE APPROPRIATING OUT MONEY THAT HASN'T BEEN GIVEN TO US YET? WE KNOW THAT WE ARE APPROVED FOR THE GRANT.
SO A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION, UH, IS MY RECOMMENDATION.
ONCE A GRANT HAS BEEN AWARDED TO THE COUNTY, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO USE THE FUNDS TO EXPEND THE FUNDS ON PURCHASES THAT WE KNOW ARE GONNA BE REIMBURSED FOR, THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO DO A BOOST IN THAT BUDGET AND THEN WE'LL GET REIMBURSED FOR THAT WITHIN THIS FISCAL YEAR.
I, I GUESS I, UH, WAS THINKING THE OTHER NIGHT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE FLOCK, THAT THE MONEY WOULD STAY IN THE GENERAL FUND.
WE WOULD PAY THE INVOICE WHEN IT CAME AND THEN GET REIMBURSED WHEN, WHENEVER THEY CUT A CHECK TO REIMBURSE IT.
THIS JUST AUTHORIZES THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO SPEND THAT MONEY JUST ON THESE APPROVED PURCHASES.
SO IT'S NOT ACTUALLY GOING, THEY STILL HAVE TO, TO ASK YOU FOR THE MONEY.
THIS, THIS IS THE ASK OF THE MONEY TONIGHT.
THIS IS THE ASK TO SPEND THE MONEY TONIGHT.
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APPROPRIATION.SO THEY'RE ASKING, THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FOR THE GRANT.
AND THAT'S ALSO WITHIN THE FLOCK AGENDA ITEM.
THE, THE TIME THAT IT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD.
THIS ASK IS TO SPEND THE MONEY OUTSIDE OF THEIR BUDGET THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROPRIATED.
NO, BUT WHAT ARE THEY DOING WITH THE EXTRA, 'CAUSE IT WAS, WHAT, 150,000 OVER SO MANY YEARS? RIGHT? IT WAS 50 SOME THOUSAND OVER THREE YEARS.
SO WHERE'S THE OTHER MONEY GONNA SET AND BE USED FOR? UM, WITHIN THE FLOCK SYSTEM? THE AGENDA ITEM HAS THE OTHER PURCHASE ORDERS THAT WE ARE GOING TO AUTHORIZE IF THE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION IS APPROVED.
I'M GONNA LOOK AT THAT REAL QUICK.
AND I DON'T SEE THE OTHER LISTED MONEY.
UH, I'M LOOKING, UM, I SEE IT, THERE IS A LIST, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES OF, UM, $1,400.
ALL THAT TOTALS UP TO $50,150.
SO I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE THE OTHER PORTION OF THAT 216 IS GOING.
AND I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I KNOW WHAT I'M GETTING READY TO VOTE ON HERE.
IT'S THE, YOU'VE, YOU'VE ATTACHED THE GRANT IN THE PACKET.
UM, YEAH, THE NET COMES UP TO A HUNDRED NINE, ONE SIXTY ONE SEVENTY EIGHT.
I CAN'T PUT MY HANDS ON IT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S VERY SIMILAR.
AND IT TOTALS 109, RIGHT? PLUS NOT TWO 18, NOT TWO 16.
SO THE WAY THE GRANT IS, YOU WANT ME TO TALK ON THIS? YEAH, WOULD YOU PLEASE.
THE WAY THE GRANT'S BROKEN DOWN IS BETWEEN SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT.
UM, FOR THE SUPPLIES IS WHAT YOU SEE.
UH, ON THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE LETTERHEAD THE EQUIPMENT.
WE, WE ASKED FOR TWO THINGS WITH THE GRANT.
WE ASKED FOR THE FLOCK SYSTEM AND WE ALSO ASKED FOR, I BELIEVE 48,000, UM, TO UPGRADE OUR INTERVIEW ROOM CAMERA SYSTEM.
SO, AND SOME ITEMS HAVE CHANGED FROM THE ORIGINAL REQUEST FROM D C J SS, UH, BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY FOUND SOME MONEY SAVINGS.
UM, AND WE HAVE, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE, A LOT OF THE SAVINGS IS COMING FROM OUR, THE GLOCK FIREARM PURCHASE.
SO INSTEAD OF PURCHASING, WE'RE GONNA PURCHASE 82 FIREARMS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO BUYING BACK OUR OLD FIREARMS AT A RATE OF, I BELIEVE, $268.
SO THAT SAVED US SOMEWHERE AROUND $18,000.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME MONEY LEFT OVER IN THE SUPPLY CATEGORY FROM THE ORIGINAL GRANTED AMOUNT.
UM, THAT SHOULD OUR, UH, CAMERA SYSTEM GO OVER BUDGET BECAUSE WHAT WE WERE QUOTED, UH, IS GONNA BE END OF LIFE, UM, FOR MOTOROLA IN A YEAR AND A HALF.
SO WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO PUT IN A SYSTEM THAT'S NOT GONNA BE SERVICEABLE AND A YEAR AND A HALF NOW.
UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT AN ALTERNATIVE SYSTEM.
UM, SO WE DID BUDGET APPROXIMATELY $48,000 FOR THAT, BUT I BELIEVE THE TOTAL IS SOMEWHERE AROUND $7,000 OVER OR UNDER FOR THE SUPPLIES THAT WE COULD MOVE INTO THE EQUIPMENT SIDE IF WE NEEDED TO.
DID THAT CLARIFY ANYTHING? WELL, I, I, I JUST, YOU KNOW, IF I DID THE, THE MATH RIGHT, THERE'S $56,688 AND 22 CENTS DIFFERENCE IN WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING THAT YOU CAN SPEND IT ON AND OUT OF THAT 216 DO THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO WHY NOT JUST ASK FOR WHAT YOU NEED AND KEEP THAT 56 HERE WHEN YOU NEED IT AGAIN, ASK FOR IT INSTEAD
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OF, SEE, MY FEAR IS ALWAYS THAT WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU AND OH, WE ARE HAVING THIS, WE REALLY WANTED IT, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY.AND THEN WHEN YOU, WHAT IT WAS EARMARKED BEFORE, THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT, SO WE NEED MORE MONEY.
SO THE, SO, SO THE GRANT CANNOT SUPPLANT THE BUDGET AND ANYTHING THAT WE WISH TO PURCHASE ON IT, D C J S HAS TO APPROVE IT.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN JUST BUY WHATEVER WE WANT WITH IT.
UM, THEY HAVE TO APPROVE IT THROUGH THE GRANT PORTAL AND THEN THEY'LL KICK IT BACK.
AND THEN ONCE THEY SAY YES, WE'RE OKAY WITH IT, THEN WE WOULD DO A PURCHASE ORDER FOR APPROVAL.
SO IT'S, IT'S NOT FREE MONEY, SO TO SPEAK? NO.
WELL, THERE IS NO SUCH AS FREE MONEY.
DALEY WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING? NO.
IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, PERHAPS THE BOARD WOULD WANT TO APPROVE AN APPROPRIATION OF THE 50,150 NOW AND ALSO APPROVE THE ITEM WHEN IT COMES DOWN HERE, THE FLOCK.
AND THEN THEY CAN WORK UP AN ACTUAL LINE BUDGET FOR YOU TO LOOK AT FOR THE REMAINDER A HUNDRED, $160,000.
AND THAT WOULD LET THEM SPEND THE 50 ON THIS SYSTEM.
NOW YOU COULD HAVE A REGULAR BUDGET LINE OF THE OTHER ITEMS LATER.
IS THAT GOING TO CAUSE ANY DELAY ANYWHERE? WELL, IT WOULD BE A DELAY TILL THE NEXT MEETING.
WELL, I MEAN, IS THAT GONNA AFFECT YOU IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO WEEKS? UH, YES.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A POTENTIAL FOR THE PRICE TO INCREASE.
UM, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY A 90 TO 120 DAYS BEFORE THE GLOCKS WOULD BE READY FOR SHIPMENT.
SO THAT WOULD PUT A DELAY IN THAT AS WELL.
BUT WE WOULD APPROVE THE 50,150 FOR THE GLOCKS? NO, THAT'S FLOCK.
THE OTHER ATTACHMENTS IS ON LETTERHEAD IS FOR $109,161 AND 78 CENTS.
I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE 56 6 0 8 688 THAT WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR.
SO YOU COULD APPROVE THE TOOL.
AND YOU DON'T YET BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT SOLUTION WE'RE GOING WITH.
SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE TWO THAT YOU HAVE ON HERE.
I JUST, SO HOW MUCH ARE THE GLOCKS? WELL, SO IT'S, IT'S THE SUPPLIES.
SO, WHICH WOULD BE GLOCKS, SOME RIFLES, PISTOL LIGHTS, HOLSTERS, UM, FLIR MOUNTS, FLIR ARMS, UM, PROTECTIVE CLOTHING OPTICS FOR THE RIFLES, UH, 10 BALLISTIC HELMETS AND THEN THE FLIR UNITS THEMSELVES.
AND THAT WOULD TOTAL $109,161 AND 78 CENTS.
AND WE COVERED THE, THE 50, THE BLOCK, WHICH IS $50,150.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A HUNDRED AND ROUGHLY $160,000.
159,311 AND 78 CENTS IF I DID MY MATH CORRECTLY.
AND THAT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT YOU ONE WAY OR ANOTHER YET.
'CAUSE YOU HAVEN'T SPENT THE MONEY.
I MEAN YOU HAD, YOU HAVEN'T EVEN GOT THE PRODUCT TO GO ALONG WITH THAT.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN SUBMITTED THE ORDER YET.
ALYSSA STILL HAS THE PURCHASE ORDERS WAITING TO BE SIGNED PENDING TONIGHT'S MM-HMM.
IF, IF I COULD JUST SAY SOMETHING, THE REASON WHY THE FLOCK SYSTEM IS THE ONLY AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU'RE APPROVING IS BECAUSE THAT'S OVER THE 50,000.
ALL OF THESE OTHER LOAN ITEMS ARE LESS THAN 50,000, HOWEVER, THEY STILL GO THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS.
SO THEY STILL ARE APPROVED BY THE PURCHASING AGENT.
UH, SO, BUT THEY TOTAL 109 AND THEY, IF I HEARD HIM CORRECTLY, ALL OF THESE THINGS KIND OF NEED TO BE PURCHASED TO WORK TOGETHER WITH, UM, WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE.
AND WE HAVE PURCHASE ORDERS FOR EVERYTHING ON THIS LIST.
UM, WITH THE REMAINING FUNDS, WE COULD ALSO COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND REPORT TO YOU SPECIFICALLY HOW THAT $216,000 WAS SPENT.
WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY 'CAUSE WE'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE $216,000, NOT 50,100.
THESE ARE EACH INDIVIDUAL AWARDS, HOWEVER, TO DIFFERENT TYPES OF VENDORS.
SO THERE IS NO POLICY TO APPROVE GRANT PURCHASES.
THERE'S A POLICY TO APPROVE A NEW PURCHASE OVER 50,000.
SO WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT POLICY.
HOWEVER, THESE ARE INDIVIDUAL PURCHASES FOR INDIVIDUAL SPECIFIC ITEMS.
[01:40:03]
SO FROM, FROM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, YOU'RE ASKING FOR A $218,000 LOAN UNTIL YOU GET YOUR GRANT MONEY BACK.BASICALLY THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
WELL, WHY CAN'T WE JUST CHANGE THE 216,000 TO A HUNDRED FIFTY NINE, THREE HUNDRED ELEVEN SEVENTY EIGHT AND THEN YOU GOT WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, WHAT YOU NEED TO DO WITH RIGHT NOW FOR THE TIME BEING, RIGHT? YES.
YEAH, THAT'S SO AT WHAT POINT IN TIME ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE GRANT AWARDED? THE GRANT'S ALREADY AWARDED, MA'AM.
THE, THE, THE ONLY THING WE HAVE TO DO IS WE NEED TO SUBMIT THE PURCHASE ORDERS TO, TO GET THE EQUIPMENT TOGETHER.
THE GRANT HAS TO BE CLOSED OUT BY JUNE 30TH, 2024.
SO WHEN YOU GET THE REIMBURSEMENT, THEN YOU PAY BACK THE, THE WHAT YOU BORROWED.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? EXACTLY.
AND SO THE GRANT FOR IS 216,000.
AND IT AND WHAT WAS THE END DATE? WHEN DOES THE GRANT EXPIRE? WE HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING SUBMITTED.
THE GRANT CLOSES OUT JUNE 30TH, 2024.
AND, AND WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL GET THE 216 FOR THAT GRANT.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER 50, I ASSURE YOU I WILL DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO MAKE SURE WE GET REIMBURSED FOR THAT.
SO, SO THIS 56 K THAT I'M ESTIMATING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT, IS IS IT NOT CURRENTLY PLANNED OR DO YOU HAVE A, YOU EARMARKED IT FOR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT SEEING RIGHT NOW? CORRECT.
IT WAS EARMARKED TO UPGRADE, UH, A CAMERA SYSTEM FOR, UH, OUR INTERVIEW AND INTERROGATION ROOMS. MM-HMM.
IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SERVICE IT IN A YEAR AND A HALF.
THAT, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE 56 K IS FOR? WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY 48,000 OF SOME CHANGE, BUT WE'VE SAVED SOME MONEY IN THE SUPPLIES UHHUH.
SO WE COULD REQUEST THAT THE OVER OR THE SO EXTRA MONEY IN SUPPLIES, WE COULD MOVE IT IF WE NEED IT TO THE EQUIPMENT SIDE OF THE GRANT IN CASE THERE'S ANY INFLATION BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER PRODUCT.
SO IN ESSENCE, SO THE GRANT IN THIS, THE GRANT, IT, THE GRANT IS, UM, PLANNED.
I MEAN YOU HAVE EXPENDITURES TO YES.
IT'S JUST, WE'RE JUST SEEING THIS RIGHT NOW AND THAT WE HAVE THE EXTRA OVER HERE.
BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T COME UP WITH A SOLUTION YET.
WE HAVEN'T COME UP WITH A SOLUTION YET FOR THE INTERVIEW INTERROGATION.
SO DO WE, UM, HAVE A, UM, MOTION TO, UH, FOR THE APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS WITHIN THE MOTION, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE REMOVE THE BUDGET ITEM FOR OH, FOR THE E NINE 11? YES.
WITH THEIR, WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE E NINE 11.
WELL, I WOULD MOVE, LET'S SEE WHAT THE COVER SHEET SAYS.
UM, I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF THE FLOCK GROUP FOR 50,150 ON BEHALF OF WARREN COUNTY.
UM, I MOVE THAT WE REMOVED THE E NINE ONE, UM, APPROPRIATION AMOUNT OF 118 AND I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT THE OTHER PART AND THAT WE APPROPRIATE 159,311 AND $78 FOR THE OTHER EXPENDITURES.
SO JUST SO WE ALL UNDERST UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE AT, WE'RE DOING HERE, WE'RE I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.
SO WE, WE ARE, WE ARE GOING TO APPROPRIATE THE HUNDRED AND I'M JUST ESTIMATING RIGHT, THE 160 K LESS THAN 56 K FOR THE GRANT SHERIFF'S GRANT.
I JUST NEED TO CLARIFY THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
NO, THAT'S NOT, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING? YOU'RE, YOU DELETED THE E 9 1 1 ITEM.
AND THEN YOU ARE, FROM WHAT I HEAR, YOU ARE APPROPRIATING 1 5 9 3 1 2 OF THE GRANT FUNDING OKAY.
FOR WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED TODAY.
THE PROJECTS WILL BE PRESENTED
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AND THEN THEY'LL REMAIN THERE.THERE WILL, WHEN THOSE PROJECTS ARE READY, THEY'LL BE PRESENTED TO, THEY'LL BE COMING BACK BEFORE THAT.
JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WERE DOING.
LET ME ASK, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES.
IF WE DO NOT APPROVE THE APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS THAT, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE REST OF WHAT'S ON THIS? WELL, IT MEANS WE DON'T SPEND THE MONEY FOR IN A HOLE.
FOR THESE ITEMS. FOR THESE ITEMS, YEAH.
FOR THESE ITEMS THAT ARE HERE THAT ARE IN THE APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS, WE DON'T SPEND THE MONEY.
YEAH, BECAUSE I'M JUST CONCERNED IF WE DO NOT APPROVE WHAT'S PRESENTED FOR THEN WE'RE GONNA GET A PRICE INCREASE THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.
WELL, THAT, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT PARKS AND REC, E D A, ALL THE OTHER TRANSFERS THAT ARE PART OF THIS REPORT.
THAT'S WHAT I'M, YOU KNOW, WANNA KNOW.
WELL, THE OTHERS, UM, E D A AND PARKS AND REC AND THAT, THOSE ARE CLEANUP.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF WE, THE ONE THAT SOME NEW MONEY IS THIS ONE, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IF WE, IF WE DO NOT APPROVE THE MOTION YEAH.
DOES IT AFFECT NOT GOING AHEAD AND, AND TRANSFERRING OR APPROPRIATING MEANS OTHER ITEMS, DON'T TRANSFER THE MONEY UNTIL WE'LL BRING 'EM BACK AND THE OTHER ONES LIKE E D A AND PARTS AND REC, THOSE THINGS WILL CONTINUE BACK ON YOUR NEXT AGENDA.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING.
SO WE'RE NOT JUST, WE'LL BE BACK.
SO IF WE DO NOT APPROVE THIS, THEN EVERYTHING THAT WE SEE IN THIS PACKAGE IS GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK.
THOSE WILL HAVE TO COME BACK BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO GET THOSE APPROVED RIGHT.
IN ORDER TO CLEAN UP OUR BOOKS.
I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UM, FOR YOUR VOTE.
I DIDN'T MISS A STEP NOW, DID I? NO.
I'M APPROVED AND WE'LL MOVE ON.
EVERYTHING WAS APPROVED AS PRESENTED AS AMENDED.
THE 9 1 1 IS OUT THERE AND OF THE GRANT, THE A HUNDRED AND FIFTY NINE THREE ONE TWO WAS APPROVED FOR EXPENDITURE.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SPEND THAT AND THEN WE CAN GET, AND THEN THEY CAN COME BACK.
COME BACK WITH THE REST OF THEM.
AND ALL OF YOUR GRANTS, INCIDENTALLY, THEY ALMOST ALL REQUIRE THAT WE FUND THEM IN ADVANCE.
EXAMPLE BEING OUR F A A GRANTS, THE F A A OWES US ABOUT $600,000 THAT WE HAVE SPENT AND WE HAVE TO BRING IT UP TO OUR ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS.
SO WITH ALL OF OUR GRANTS, ANTICIPATE, UH, WE ARE GOING TO BE REIMBURSING.
[G. Approval of Accounts]
OUR APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS.SO LET ME GET TO WHERE WE WERE.
SO FOR OUR APPROVAL, OUR, UH, APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS INCLUDES OUR JULY 23RD PCARD STATEMENT, OUR JULY FUEL REPORT, UM, JULY, UM, AP REPORT, UH, JULY, 2023, DELINQUENT TAX, RECOUP REPORT, SAND AND ANDERSON PIECE, UH, INVOICES, EXPENDITURE REPORT, AND THE REVENUE REPORT.
SO DOES ANYBODY, UM, ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS TO ANY OF THESE REPORTS? WELL, I WILL SAY I SPENT, I'VE, I'VE WORRIED, UM, MS. SCOTT FOR THE LAST FEW DAYS,
WENT IN, SHE SHOWED ME THE SYSTEM AND, UM, STILL DON'T ENTIRELY UNDERSTAND IT.
UM, BUT AGREE, WE NEED TO GET A DIFFERENT SYSTEM.
UM, AND, UM, THEY ARE GETTING BETTER WITH DESCRIPTIONS AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND I, I HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER AND OVER, I'M NOT SAYING ANYBODY'S DOING ANYTHING WRONG, BUT I, I JUST CAN'T APPROVE SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DESCRIPTION IS.
AND TO BE TOTALLY HONEST, SOME OF THE DESCRIPTIONS, I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THOSE EITHER.
SO, UM, NOW THAT I KNOW WHAT MONEY'S BEING SPENT ON,
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BUT, UM, I DO, YOU KNOW, APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU TOOK WITH ME AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET A SYSTEM THAT IS MUCH FRIENDLIER FOR ALL THE USERS.UM, AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU SPENT WITH ME.
WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE IF WE CAN ASK MS. SCOTT TO KIND OF GIVE US A STATUS OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE MARKET RESEARCH FOR A NEW SYSTEM AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY.
UM, WE HAVE A SYSTEM CALLED BRIGHTON ASSOCIATES, WHICH WAS DESIGNED IN THE LATE EIGHTIES FOR MUNICIPAL, UM, GOVERNMENTS IN VIRGINIA.
THERE'S A UNIQUE TAX SITUATION THAT VIRGINIA LOCALITIES HAVE AND NO OTHER LOCALITIES IN THE UNITED STATES HAVE.
UM, IT'S SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO TAXES, BUT IT ALSO HAS TO DO WITH SANITARY DISTRICTS AS WELL.
SO THIS SYSTEM WORKS FOR THE COMM COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE, THE TREASURER'S OFFICE, AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
IT ALSO USED TO WORK FOR THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT AND WE ALSO USED TO RUN IT, RUN PAYROLL THROUGH IT AS WELL.
SO PIECE BY PIECE, WE'VE TAKEN OFF THOSE MODULES THAT NO LONGER WORK FOR THE COUNTY.
WE'VE TAKEN OFF THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS, WE'VE TAKEN OFF PAYROLL AND WE'VE ASSIGNED THEM TO OTHER MODULES.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER VENDORS TO REPLACE THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM FOR THE TREASURE'S OFFICE AND FOR THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE NEED TO TALK TO EACH OTHER AND COMMUNICATE ON A MINUTE BY MINUTE BASIS.
AND THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE AND THE TREASURER'S OFFICE ALSO NEED TO TALK TO ONE ANOTHER AS WELL.
BUT THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE IS RIGHT NOW, UM, WORKING WITH A NEW SYSTEM THAT WAS JUST APPROVED CALLED VISION FOR ASSESSMENT SERVICES.
AND SO THEY'RE ABOUT TWO YEARS AWAY FROM MAKING ANY KINDA DECISION TO REPLACE THEIR BRIGHT MODULE.
WE HAVE LOOKED INTO A HANDFUL OF DIFFERENT FINANCIAL SYSTEMS AND WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR C P A AS WELL TO FIND OUT WHAT IS BEST IN CLASS THAT WILL WORK FOR THE COUNTY.
SO THE TREASURER'S OFFICE IS INVOLVED IN MEETING WITH VENDORS AS WELL AS MYSELF AND OUR C P A.
SO RIGHT NOW THAT'S WHERE WE STAND WITH MEETING WITH FINANCIAL SERVICES.
MS. SCOTT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT OUR, UM, SURROUNDING COUNTIES USE FOR, TO ACCOMMODATE THIS WEIRD THING THAT THE STATE OF VIRGINIA HAS TO DO
OUR STAFF IS ALL FAIRLY NEW, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OUR SENIOR ACCOUNTS COORDINATOR.
SO WE'VE BEEN TRAINED IN THE CURRENT SYSTEM.
WE HAVE HELP DESK TICKETS GOING INTO THE CURRENT FINANCIAL SYSTEM, BRIGHT.
SO THEY'RE WORKING WITH US TO TRY TO HELP US CLOSE OUR BOOKS, CLOSE OUR MONTHS, DO OUR JOURNAL ENTRIES, THINGS THAT WE NEED SPECIFIC HELP WITH AND TRAINING ON SO WE CAN DO THE DAY TO DAY FOR RIGHT NOW.
SO THERE ARE LOCALITIES, SHENANDOAH, COLD PEPPER, FREDERICK COUNTY.
THEY DO USE BRIGHTON ASSOCIATES AND BRIGHT AND ASSOCIATES IS STILL A VERY ROBUST FINANCIAL SYSTEM.
SO THERE'S ALSO OTHER LOCALITIES WHO ARE MOVING AWAY FROM THAT.
SO THEY CAN BE BETTER AT REPORTING, THEY CAN LOOK BACK ON MULTIPLE FISCAL YEARS, THEY CAN BUDGET BETTER.
SO IF THEY'VE DONE AN R F P, THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THAT YEAR AND A HALF LONG PROCESS OF SELECTING A VENDOR, HIRING, HIRING A TECHNOLOGY CONSULTANT, AND THEN GETTING A NEW SOFTWARE SYSTEM.
WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AS WELL.
OR IF WE WANNA CUT OUR TIMEFRAME SHORTER, WE WOULD DO A COOPERATIVE CONTRACT.
SO IF THERE'S THAT LANGUAGE IN THEIR R F P, WE CAN PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT.
THERE'S DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE, WE HAVE WHEN IT COMES TO PURCHASING A SYSTEM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO, UM, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR ON THE EX EXPENDITURE REPORT.
UH, IT'S ON OUR INFAMOUS, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.
SO I'M LOOKING HERE AND IT SAYS THAT WE APPROPRIATED $1.6 MILLION FOR FISCAL YEAR 22, 23 FOR THIS IS, WE'RE CLOSING THINGS OUT, BUT OUR YEAR TO DATE WAS 3.3 MILLION.
SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A A DELTA OF ABOUT 1.7 MILLION OR, AND SOME CHANGE.
BUT, UM, SO COULD I UNDERSTAND WHAT CREATED THAT OVERAGE? SO THE END OF LAST YEAR, AGAIN, THAT WAS THAT END OF THE FISCAL YEAR APPROPRIATION FOR OVERAGE AND LEGAL FEES AND COVERAGE OF SOME OF THE REVENUE THAT DIDN'T COME IN THAT WE WERE COLLECTING ON SOME OF THOSE LOAN PAYMENTS.
UM, WE DID ALSO SEE AS, AS DONE WAS IN THAT APPROPRIATION LAST YEAR, WE ONLY BUDGETED FOR 1.5 MILLION IN REVENUE FROM LEGAL AND WE EXCEEDED THAT OVER 2 MILLION.
UM, SO THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANGE IN THAT MM-HMM.
[01:55:01]
THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR APPROPRIATION THAT WE DID LAST JUNE.SO WE DON'T NEED TO HA WE DON'T HAVE TO.
WELL, THIS IS AFTER THE FACT I THINK ABOUT IT, BUT THIS IS NOT GONNA REQUIRE ANOTHER APPROPRIATION TO CLOSE THE BOOKS.
WE HAD, EVERYTHING WAS PART OF WHAT WE APPROVED LAST YEAR, SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD.
WE'RE WORKING ON CLOSING OUT LAST YEAR AND HOPEFULLY THERE'LL BE MONEY COMING BACK TO THE COUNTY.
IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, ANYBODY? NOPE.
SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, UM, OUR ACCOUNTS? MADAM CHAIR? SO APPROVE OR SO MOVED? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
[H. Approval of Minutes - June 13th, June 27th, July 18th 2023]
OUR AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF, UM, OUR MEETING MINUTES FOR JUNE 13TH, JUNE 27TH AND JUNE 18TH.UM, DOES ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CHANGES? NO.
IF NOT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, THE MEETING MINUTES? YOU NEED 'EM DONE INDIVIDUALLY OR YOU WANT TO COLLECTIVELY DO THEM DO 'EM TOGETHER? YOU CAN DO 'EM TOGETHER.
IF THERE'S A MEMBER THAT DOESN'T WANT 'EM TOGETHER, THEY SHOULD SPEAK UP.
EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT MADAM CHAIR? MAKE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR JUNE 13TH, JUNE 27TH AND JULY 18TH, 2023.
WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE.
[J. Consent Agenda]
THE CONSENT AGENDA.SO IS THERE ANY REMOVALS, UM, ITEM ITEMS FOR REMOVAL FOR DISCUSSION? I WOULD LIKE TO PULL NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER ONE, AND I WANT TO PULL NUMBER FOUR.
WE WOULD REQUEST, UNLESS THERE'S AN OBJECTION, WE WOULD REQUEST TO STRIKE NUMBER ONE.
UH, WE ARE NOT, WE ARE GONNA GET MORE INFORMATION TO BRING BACK AT ANOTHER MEETING IN THE FUTURE.
WE'RE REBIDDING THIS PROJECT AND WE'LL HAVE SOME BETTER NUMBERS BEFORE WE PROCEED.
IS THERE ANY OBJECTIONS WITH THAT? NO.
NO, ACTUALLY THAT WAS GONNA BE MY SUGGESTION.
SO, WE'LL, SO WE'RE STAYING WITH NUMBER FOUR, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, I, I WANNA TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE I'VE GOT ISSUES WITH THE OKAY.
CONSTITUTIONALITY OF CAMERAS THAT OKAY.
WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, UM, WILL, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH REMOVING NUMBER ONE AND POOLING NUMBER FOUR FOR DISCUSSION? SO MOVED.
MADAM CHAIR, IS THERE A A SECOND? SECOND.
MR. MAID? AYE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOTE.
UM, JUST BEFORE WE, UH, WE MOVE ON.
OH, ACTUALLY WE'LL GO AHEAD AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT ITEM FOUR.
SO MADAM CHAIR, UH, ITEM FOUR IS, IS CAMERAS THAT ARE POSITIONED AROUND THE COUNTY AND, UM, LIKE THE CAMERAS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED IN SCHOOL SAFETY ZONES, THESE CAMERAS TAKE PICTURES OF LICENSE PLATES, NOT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE DRIVING THEM.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT ABLE TO ADDRESS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACCUSING THEM OF THINGS.
AND SO I AM JUST PRINCIPALLY OPPOSED TO CAMERAS THAT TAKE PICTURES OF VEHICLES AND NOT INDIVIDUALS AND NOT PEOPLE WHO CAN GO BACK THEN AND ADDRESS THEIR ACCUSERS.
UM, SO THEREFORE I CANNOT SUPPORT THE FLOCK SAFETY CAMERA.
UM, THAT IS NOT THAT I DON'T WANT THE, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO GET THE GRANT MONEY.
I DIDN'T, WHEN THE ORIGINAL GRANT MONEY WAS PROPOSED, IT WAS SAID CAMERAS AND I THOUGHT THOSE WERE GONNA BE IN THE INVESTIGATION ROOM OR BODY CAMERAS.
I DID NOT REALIZE THEY WERE GOING TO BE CAMERAS THAT WERE GONNA BE PLACED STRATEGICALLY IN TAKING PICTURES OF LICENSE PLATES.
SO AS A RESULT, I WON'T, I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT AND I, THAT'S WHY I'M PULLING IT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SO BEING PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, SHOULD WE GO AHEAD AND STILL DO A MOTION OF ACCEPTING THIS OR NOT ACCEPTING IT? YES, CORRECT.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? YEAH, MADAM CHAIR THAT MY UNDERSTANDING, I'VE, I'VE READ A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FLOCK AND, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS, BUT I THOUGHT THAT THE FLOCK WAS ONLY USED TO, IT'S, IT'S NOT TO IDENTIFY ANY VEHICLES
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THAT ARE DOING INCORRECT THINGS.WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY, ARE THEY, THEY'RE, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A, UH, CHECKING VEHICLE LICENSE PLATES SO THAT IF, UH, IF A VEHICLE HAS BEEN REPORTED STOLEN OR IF A VEHICLE WAS, WAS REPORTED IN AN ACCIDENT, YOU KNOW, AND THEY DROVE AWAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT THEY COULD TRACK THAT VEHICLE DOWN.
BUT THEY'RE NOT ACCUSING THE, THE DRIVER FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD.
NOW, I COULD HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD THIS, BUT THEY'RE NOT ACCUSING THE CAR.
WELL, NO, THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE JUST TRACKING THE CAR.
THEY'RE JUST, WE HAVE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO COME UP ONE OUR TIME TO EXPLAIN THE PURPOSE.
YOU KNOW, I WAS GONNA DO THIS, SORRY, I'M NOT AN EXPERT, SO, BUT GO AHEAD.
SO, UM, WITH, UH, MR. BUTLER WAS SAYING THAT WHEN WE HAD THE WORKING SESSION, UM, THE UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THIS, UM, CAPABILITY WAS NOT TO IT, YOU BE USED FOR SPEEDING OR ANYTHING.
IT WAS FOCUSED FOCUSLY GOING TO BE USED FOR LIKE, LIKE MR. BUTLER SAID, UH, A VEHICLE BEING STOLEN AND MM-HMM.
SO IF THERE'S AN ALERT OR SOMETHING, THE CAMERA CAN PICK UP THE, UM, THE IMAGE OF THE LICENSE PLATE MM-HMM.
OR ANOTHER COUNTY OF MAYBE OF A STOLEN VEHICLE OR IT'S, UH, OR A MISSING CHILD OR SOMETHING TO THE FACT.
SO IT DOESN'T, IT, IT PULLS OFF OF THE NATIONAL DATABASE OF VS AND N C I C.
SO THESE ARE VEHICLES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN TAGGED AS BEING STOLEN MM-HMM.
SO IF A VEHICLE COMES THROUGH THE CAMERA AND LITTLE JOHNNY WAS ABDUCTED IN PENNSYLVANIA AND IT COMES THROUGH OUR L P R A NOTIFICATION WILL BE SENT TO OUR COMMUNICATION CENTER THAT HEY, LITTLE JOHNNY, IT'S REPORTED LITTLE JOHNNY WAS IN THIS CAR AND HE JUST CAME INTO YOUR COUNTY, SEND SOMEBODY TO INVESTIGATE, IS WHAT THAT CAMERA DOES.
SO IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT THIS COULD BE USED FOR A GOTCHA, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, YOU WERE SPEEDING, UH, YOU MADE A, UH, LEFT TURN WHERE THERE'S NO LEFT TURN NO.
OR YOU MADE A IT TAKES STILL SHOTS ONLY.
IT DOESN'T HAVE A RADAR UNIT IN IT, SO NO, IT, NO, IT CANNOT.
SO THESE STAR UH, THESE, UM, THESE PLATES ARE ONLY FLAGGED BY THIS NATIONAL DATABASE? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN CONNECTION WITH SOMETHING ILLEGAL OR MISSING MM-HMM.
RIGHT? SO IF JOHN SMITH'S WANTED ON MURDER AND HE COMES INTO WARREN COUNTY AND IT, HIS VEHICLE OR LICENSE PLATE IS ATTACHED TO HIS WANTED PERSON ENTRY INTO N C I C, IT'LL RUN IT.
IT'LL NOTIFY COMMUNICATIONS THAT THIS VEHICLE IS ALLEGEDLY IN CONNECTION WITH JOHN SMITH WHO'S WANTED FOR MURDER.
YOU NEED TO SEND PEOPLE TO INVESTIGATE MM-HMM.
UM, I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER TYPE OF ALERT AS WELL MM-HMM.
IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT AS INTRUSIVE, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY, AS ME DRIVING BEHIND A CAR AND RUNNING THE LICENSE PLATE.
SO THAT WOULD GIVE ME INFORMATION AS FAR AS WHO OWNS IT AND SO FORTH LIKE THAT.
THIS SIMPLY SAYS IT'S IN CONNECTION WITH THIS ENTRY AND YOU NEED TO SEND SOMEBODY TO GO LOOK FOR THIS CAR.
SO, BUT THIS CAMERA COLLECTS DATA OF LICENSE PLATES OF EVERYBODY WHO DRIVES THROUGH THERE.
AND WHO GETS THAT DATA AND WHAT DO THEY DO WITH IT? IT'S STORED IN A DATA BANK AND SHARED WITH, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THAT ARE A PART OF THE SYSTEM.
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I AM OPPOSED BECAUSE I'M OPPOSED TO A SURVEILLANCE STATE.I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE, WE'RE HEADED TOWARD WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE SURVEILLED EVERYWHERE AND DATA'S GONNA BE COLLECTED ON EVERY ONE OF US.
AND THERE JUST HAS TO BE A POINT WHERE YOU SAY NO.
WHERE YOU SAY, NO, WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE SURVEILLANCE.
WE ARE SURVEILLED TO THE, I MEAN, NOW YOU'RE SURVEILLED WALKING INTO THE GROCERY STORE.
AND SO WHEN DOES THIS STOP? WHEN YOU KNOW, BUT I DON'T MIND BEING SURVEILLED AS A PERSON, BUT WHEN A CAR IS SURVEILLED AND YOU DO NOT KNOW WHO'S DRIVING THAT CAR YET THAT PERSON WHO IS DRIVING THAT CAR, WHO MAY BE NOT THE PERSON YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, IS GOING TO BE PULLED OVER AND HAS NO ABILITY TO ADDRESS THEIR ACCUSERS BECAUSE THE CAMERA WAS WHAT ACCUSED THEM.
AND SO I DON'T THINK THAT I CAN'T SUPPORT, UH, ADDITIONAL SURVEILLANCE IN THAT WAY.
I RESPECT YOUR OPINION, BUT I THINK IF YOU HAD A MISSING ADULT AND WAS YOUR MOTHER AND SHE GOT CAUGHT BY AN L P R, I THINK YOU WOULD THINK DIFFERENTLY.
AND I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS A JUSTIFICATION FOR THESE.
I'M GONNA TELL YOU I'VE HEARD A JUSTIFICATION FOR EVERYTHING.
UH, SAFETY IS ALWAYS A JUSTIFICATION.
WE HAD A GOVERNMENT THAT TOLD US THAT WE HAD TO BE SAFE AND STAY HOME FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.
SO I, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I I'M GONNA TELL YOU I'M NOT, THERE ARE ALWAYS GONNA BE CIRCUMSTANCES.
I RESPECT YOUR OPINION, BUT THERE IS OPINION ALSO GONNA BE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE YOUR DATA COULD BE USED AT SOME POINT BY PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE A REASON TO AGAINST YOU.
AND IT'S, AND WHEN YOU'RE SURVEILLING A CAR AND NOT AN ACTUAL PERSON, THEN THERE COULD BE MISIDENTIFICATION ON, ON EVERY LEVEL BECAUSE OF THAT.
SO IT'S, IT TAKES, IT MAKES THE CAR THE SUSPECT, NOT THE PERSON, THE SUSPECT.
I DON'T, I I THINK THAT IF YOU WERE IDENTIFYING A PERSON DRIVING THE CAR, WELL MAYBE, BUT NOT JUST THE CAR.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION WE'RE USING THE SAME MOTION THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED, RIGHT? YEAH.
IF, IF, IF YOU WANNA MAKE A, A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? NO, I MEAN WE'VE ALREADY READ THIS ONE.
NO, YOU HAVE MAKE A MOTION ON THIS.
SO I MOVED, OH YEAH, THAT, THAT WAS THE, UH, NEVERMIND THE TRANSFER APPROPRIATION.
I MOVED THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE PURCHASE ORDER TO FLOCK GROUP INCORPORATED FOR $50,150 ON BEHALF OF WARREN COUNTY.
I FURTHER MOVE THE BOARD AUTHORIZED CHAIR AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, EITHER OF WHOM MAY ACT TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OR THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY.
AND SO BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO UM, THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, I JUST WANT TO LET FOLKS KNOW THAT A PORT OF THE, UPON THE, THE APPROVAL OF OUR CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAVE APPOINT, WE HAVE APPOINTED KRISTEN DOWNS TO THE FRONT ROYAL FRONT ROYAL WARREN COUNTY JOINT TOW BOARD.
WE'VE APPOINTED JAMES WELLS TO THE LAUREL RIDGE COMMUNITY COLLEGE BOARD, AND WE ALSO APPOINTED DENISE ACKER OF NORTHWESTERN COMMUNITY SERVICES AND LIEUTENANT JEREMIAH LANG OF THE WARREN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO THE COMMUNITY POLICY AND MANAGEMENT, UH, TEAM.
SO, UM, UM, ZOE FOR SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I WANNA THANK EVERYBODY, UM, FOR STEPPING UP AND SERVING OUR COUNTY.
[K. Agreement - Economic Development Authority - Dr. Daley ]
TO OUR NEXT ITEM IS, UH, THE AGREEMENT FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.YOU'RE A POPULAR PERSON TONIGHT.
AND THIS IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE FRONT ROYAL WARREN COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AND THE COUNTY OF WARREN.
UM, E D A CURRENTLY HAS THEIR OFFICE OUT ON 400 KENRICK LANE.
UM, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN USING THE SITE, THEY'VE BEEN STORING LOTS OF DOCUMENTS THERE, SOME FURNITURE, ET CETERA.
SO THEY'VE BEEN EXPLORING THE OPTION OF LEASING THAT.
UM, THEY HAVE A TENANT WHO IS INTERESTED.
UM, SO THE IDEA IS TO MOVE THOSE ITEMS OUT AND STORE THEM, UM, SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND THEY HAVE BEEN OPERATING OFF OF A THIRD PARTY FOR THEIR EMAIL, WHICH IS AT ITS END OF LIFE.
UM, WHICH ALSO HOSTS THEIR WEBSITE.
THEIR WEBSITE WILL STILL BE HOSTED BY THAT THIRD PARTY.
BUT WE ARE, THIS AGREEMENT WOULD, UH, THE COUNTY WOULD PROVIDE A SPACE TO STORE THEIR
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DOCUMENTS AND ANY FURNITURE THAT THEY'D WANT TO KEEP.UM, WE'RE HOPING THE TENANT WILL TAKE SOME OF THAT, THAT WILL BE LESS MOVING.
UM, THE SPACE THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED IS THE HOUSE, UM, NEXT TO SHERWIN WILLIAMS OVER THERE AT PUBLIC WORKS USED TO USE.
THE OTHER PART WOULD BE THAT THE COUNTY WOULD OFFER IT SERVICES TO THE E D A, UM, BY PUTTING THEM ON OUR EMAIL PLATFORM, WHICH WOULD BE MUCH EASIER FOR US TO OBVIOUSLY SHARE DOCUMENTS.
UM, BUT IT WOULD STILL GIVE THEM THAT AUTHORITY TO HAVE THEIR EMAIL, UM, REMOTE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THEY HAVE CURRENTLY THEIR THIRD PARTY PROVIDER IS ALREADY LOOKING AT THEM, GOING TO THE SAME PLATFORM THAT WE HAVE WITH MICROSOFT.
UM, BUT WE WOULD BE A COST SAVINGS IF IT CAME TO THE COUNTY AS WELL.
AND IT WOULD JUST BE FOR ME AS A COUNTY EMPLOYEE AND OUR INTERACTION WOULD BE EASIER.
SO THIS AGREEMENT THAT THE E D A, UM, HAD A DRAFT THAT THEY HAD APPROVED AT ITS LAST MEETING IN JULY, WHICH WAS FORWARDED, UM, AND OUR LEGAL COUNSEL DID MAKE SOME CHANGES THAT YOU SEE THIS EVENING, THAT REDLINED, UM, VERSION.
BUT THIS WOULD JUST BE A LEGAL DOCUMENT TO JUST IN WRITING THAT WE WOULD AGREE TO PROVIDE THOSE TWO SERVICES TO THEM.
IT ALSO WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THEY APPOINT A FOIA OFFICER IF WE HAD THEIR, UM, EMAIL SYSTEMS AND STUFF, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN FOIA OFFICER TO HELP US WITH ANY FOIA REQUESTS FOR THEIR DATA.
BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
UM, AND AGAIN, I KNOW YOU HAVE THE RED LINE COMMENT THAT ALSO HAS, UM, MR. HAM'S COMMENTS.
SO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UM, THE ONLY QUESTION IS, WAS THE E D A IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS BEFORE WE, YOU KNOW, LIKE SO WE'VE SHARED IT WITH THEM.
THEY KNEW THAT WE WOULD HAVE COMMENTS.
I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF THEIR BOARD MEMBERS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY COULD SEE OUR COMMENTS.
IT WAS ON, POSTED ON THE AGENDA.
UM, THEY STATED THAT IF, UH, SPOKE WITH THEIR, UH, CHAIR TONIGHT, THAT IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED, THEY WOULD OBVIOUSLY SHOW THAT AND LIKELY CALL A SPECIAL MEETING TO GET IT APPROVED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE ON THEIR END TO NOT DELAY ANY POSSIBLE LEASE ON THE PROPERTY AND, AND START THAT, UM, MOVE AND TRANSITION OUT OF THAT BUILDING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NO, I DO HAVE ONE.
SO THESE ARE NEW, NEW SERVICES THAT THE COUNTY IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE ECONOMIC AUTHORITY? CORRECT.
SO HOW DOES THAT WORK IN THE BUDGET? I MEAN, 'CAUSE WE, WE ARE PAYING EVERYTHING, RIGHT? WE'RE PAYING THEIR BILLS WHERE IT'S COMING OUT OF THE COUNTY FUNDS.
IS THAT CORRECT? MAY I HAVE A STAND AT THAT ONE? I'LL, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DR.
SO HOW THIS WORKS IN THE BUDGET, MA'AM, IS IF WE GET THEIR STUFF OUT OF KENDRICK LANE AND THEY RENT THAT SPACE, THEN THEY EARN SOME INCOME THAT CAN HELP REDUCE WHAT THE COUNTY HAS TO PAY TO THEM.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE, UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, WE'RE PAYING THE FULL BILL, WE'RE PAYING THE BILL, BUT IN ESSENCE WE'RE PAYING OURSELVES
SOME OF IT WE PAY OURSELVES, BUT WE ALSO PAY OTHERS.
AND IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE OVER THERE WHO IS PAYING RENT, THEN THEY HAVE SOME INCOME THAT CAN PAY A, THE UTILITIES AND B HAVE SOME MONEY TO DO SOME OPERATIONS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE OPERATIONS.
WELL IT'S, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE RENTAL POTENTIAL OF, UM, THE BUILDING IS ON KENDRICK LANE? HAVE YOU? YEAH.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE ASSESSED THAT WE LOOKED AT COMPS IN THE AREA.
ONE OF THE BEST COMPS WAS ACTUALLY A STRASBURG FACILITY THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THAT WALKING DISTANCE AND THE TENANT THAT THEY HAVE INTERESTED IT, IT IS WITHIN THAT MARKET RATE, UM, FOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE TYPE OF BUILDING MM-HMM.
NOT A LOT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING.
AND SERVICES AND SAVINGS ON THE IT BECAUSE THAT'S MONTHLY.
WE DON'T, DON'T HAVE TO PAY IT NOW MONTHLY.
SO, SO, UH, THESE SERVICES ARE PART OF THE BUDGET THAT WE ALL APPROVED ON, UM, UH, WHILE BACK HERE.
SO THEY DON'T GET ANY MORE MONEY,
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MAN.WELL, YEAH, YOU KNOW, BUT I'M JUST ASSUMING YOU KNOW, THAT THE, THE, THE BUDGET, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY BUDGET HAS THIS MONEY ALREADY ALLOCATED THE MONEY THAT WE'RE GONNA BE GIVING TO THEM, RIGHT? WELL, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE GIVING THEM ANYTHING.
WE'LL BE GIVING THEM SERVICES.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALSO GOING TO, WE, WE GIVE THEM THAT MONEY, WE GIVE THEM THAT QUARTERLY ALLOCATION.
IF THEY WERE TO GET A TENANT IN THERE AND START TO BRING IN SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS, AS, AS MUCH AS IT MAY BE, WE WILL REASSESS WHAT OUR QUARTERLY ALLOTMENT IS TO THEM AND ADJUST THAT APPROPRIATELY.
SO IT'LL BE COMING OUTTA YOUR BUDGET.
JUST WANTED TO FIND WHERE, WHERE THE LINE ITEM WAS.
THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO.
SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION, UM, MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE AGREEMENT REGARDING COUNTY SUPPORT OF AUTHORITY OPERATIONS.
I FURTHER MOVED THAT THE BOARD AUTHORIZED THE CHAIR AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OR THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY.
WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND ROLL CALL MR. BUTLER.
[L. Additional New Business]
NEW BUSINESS.IS THERE WHAT'S, UH, OH, THE, UM, YOU'RE MOVING OF THE HEARING, MA'AM? OH, YOU HAVE THE REQUEST FROM SHENANDOAH GOLF SHENANDOAH CLUB PROPERTY.
L L C TO MOVE THEIR HEARING, UH, 90 DAYS AND THEREFORE WE WERE RECOMMENDING THE NOVEMBER 28TH DATE FOR THE HEARING.
CONSIDER THIS AN AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE.
THIS WOULD BE AN AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE.
DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT THOUGH, RIGHT? YES.
YOU HAVE TO MOVE THE HEARING YES.
TO, TO MOVE THE HEARING SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEEK AS
BE BASED ON THE REQUEST THAT MR. WENDLING, WHAT, UM, WHAT PROCESSES WILL BE TAKEN TO INFORM THE VERY LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO PLAN TO COME HERE ON TUESDAY SO THAT THEY KNOW NOT TO COME HERE ON TUESDAY? OKAY.
UH, WE CAN SEND, CAN WE SEND IT OUT INFORMATION OUT TO VIA THOSE EMAILS? I'LL ASK THAT OUR, UM, WEB PERSON PUT SOMETHING ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE TO LET THEM KNOW, UM, WHAT ABOUT, AND WE'LL LET THE LOCAL MEDIA KNOW ABOUT THAT ALSO ON THEIR FACEBOOK PAGE.
MAYBE WE CAN DO IT ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE.
I, I'LL LOOK INTO THAT WITH PICCADILLY PRESS AND SEE IF THEY
UH, BUT WE WILL, WE WILL MAKE A CONCERTED EFFORT.
WE'LL REACH OUT TO, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE APPLICANT'S, UH, ENGINEER, UH, AND PLANNER SHENDO, UM, UH, GREENWAY ENGINEERING, EXCUSE ME.
AND THEN ALSO THE ALLIANCE FOR THE SHENANDOAH.
THEY HAVE A PRETTY LONG LIST SERVE OF, OF PEOPLE THEY SERVE.
SO WE'LL GET THOSE FOLKS, UH, NOTIFIED OF THIS ALSO.
SO WE'LL ALSO, AS PART OF THE AUTHORIZATION ADVERTISE TONIGHT, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT, UH, LETTERS ARE SENT OUT APPROPRIATELY TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
WE WILL, WE WILL HAVE TO RUN THE AD AND THE PAPER ONCE MORE AND, UM, WE MAY PULL THE SIGNS FOR NOW, BUT PRIOR TO THAT MEETING, WE'LL PUT THE SIGNS BACK OUT WITHIN AT LEAST 30 DAYS.
WE'LL TRY AND GET THEM OUT THERE.
SO THERE'S ABOUT THREE SPOTS ALONG THE PROPERTY THAT WE'VE, WE'VE POSTED, SO, VERY GOOD.
SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT.
I, I DON'T MIND GIVING THEM AN EXTENSION, BUT I THINK THREE MONTHS IS TOO LONG.
I MEAN, THIS IS A CONTENTIOUS THING AND THESE PEOPLE ARE FIRED UP AND THE LONGER IT GOES, THE LONGER IT FESTERS.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO IT.
WHAT IS THE DATE IN OCTOBER? I THINK THAT GIVES THEM PLENTY OF TIME.
THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS A LONG TIME.
UM, YOU'RE GETTING INTO THE HOLIDAYS WITH NOVEMBER AND WE'VE GOT STAFF THAT LIKE TO TAKE OFF AND, AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE GOING OUT OF TOWN THAT'S RIGHT AROUND THANKSGIVING.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE US DO IT IN OCTOBER AND GET THIS THING THAT GIVES THEM ENOUGH TIME.
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I MEAN, WE COULD VOTE THIS DOWN AND SAY WE'RE DOING IT NEXT WEEK.SO I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE BEING VERY GENEROUS BY GOING TO OCTOBER.
AND I JUST THINK GOING TO NOVEMBER IS TOO LONG.
SO DID THEY GIVE US A REASON WHY THEY WANTED TO EXTEND IT FOR THE 90 DAYS? UH, QUOTE, TO ALLOW AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO RESPOND TO COMMENTS RECEIVED IN TWO MONTHS IS PLENTY OF TIME FOR THAT.
WELL, SO, SO THIS HAS, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WATER OR IS THAT I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT HE WANTED TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE HE FOUND SOMETHING IN ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, TO THE WATER ISSUE.
UH, THEY DO NOT PROVIDE ANYTHING SPECIFIC, UH, ON THEIR LETTER.
DALEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT, UH, WE CAN, THEY HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, HOW, WHAT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THEY WANTED TO CHANGE THE, UH, VIEW ON VARIOUS PROPERTIES AND THEY WANTED TO GO OUT AND MEET WITH SOME OF THESE PROPERTY OWNERS AND TALK TO THEM SOME MORE.
AND THEY HAD THE, UH, QUESTION OF LOOKING AT HOW THEY WERE GONNA DO THEIR UTILITIES AND THEY WANTED TO GO BACK AND TALK SOME MORE.
THEY NEEDED ENGINEERING WORK DONE ON THE POTENTIAL OF THOSE UTILITIES.
I WONDER IF THAT, IF 60 DAYS WOULD BE ENOUGH OR IF THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO GET ALL THAT DONE.
WELL THERE, THAT WOULD BE, I, I WOULD THINK WITH WHAT THEY'VE DONE, LIKE I SAID, WE COULD VOTE THIS DOWN AND THEY'D HAVE TO COME IN NEXT WEEK MM-HMM.
BUT THEY CAN ALSO, THEY CAN ALSO WITHDRAW IT AND THEN JUST RESUBMIT IT TOO.
SO THEY ASKED FOR 90 DAYS, SIR.
SO THE, SO THE ONE THING THAT I WAS CURIOUS ON AND, AND I I I, I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS WAS THE, UH, IT IT WAS THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE MET WITH HIM TWICE AND BOTH TIMES THAT I'VE MET WITH HIM, I, I, AND THIS WAS MY FAULT.
I NEVER ASKED HIM, WELL, WHAT DO YOUR NEIGHBORS THINK ABOUT THIS? AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN I, I DRIVE UP THAT WAY ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW, I'LL GO UP TO, TO WINCHESTER UP TO THE AIRPORT UP THERE AND THE, UH, AND I SEE ALL OF THESE SIGNS THAT, UH, THAT SAY, YOU KNOW, STOP THE MADNESS, UH, NO GOLF COURSE, REZONING, STUFF LIKE THAT.
I SAID, UH, HE'S NEVER MENTIONED ANYTHING ABOUT THIS, UH, ABOUT ANY OF HIS.
AND, AND THEN I'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL LETTERS, UM, SEVERAL LETTERS, SEVERAL EMAILS, PROBABLY A A HALF DOZEN LETTERS AND MAYBE A DOZEN EMAILS SAYING THAT, THAT THEY'RE REALLY AGAINST THIS.
AND, YOU KNOW, MY, MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU, IF YOU GET 10 LETTERS, THAT MEANS THERE'S PROBABLY A HUNDRED PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT FEEL THIS WAY BECAUSE 90% OF 'EM ARE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING.
WE'VE, WE'VE PROVIDED EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM CITIZENS IN YOUR PACKETS.
I BELIEVE A CITIZENS PETITION WAS ABOUT 750 PEOPLE.
THE APPLICANT'S ABOUT 150 PEOPLE, I BELIEVE.
UM, SO THAT'S HAS BEEN PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKETS.
AND AS WE RECEIVE THESE, WE PUT THOSE IN THE PACKETS FOR YOU TO REVIEW.
WELL, THESE, THESE ARE IN, IN ADDITION TO WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE PACKET.
IF YOU COULD FORWARD THOSE TO ME, WE WILL MAKE SURE WE GET 'EM IN THE PACKET.
MY WIFE HAS BEEN COMPLAINING BECAUSE SHE, SHE SAYS, HERE'S ANOTHER LETTER,
I MIGHT NOTE THAT I BELIEVE NOVEMBER 2ND IS THE ELECTION DATE THIS YEAR? SEVENTH.
BELIEVE ME, I KNOW WHEN IT IS.
SO SHOULD WE MOVE, UM, FOR A MOTION TO EXTEND? HAVE A MOTION.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT, YOU NEED TO AMEND THE MO YOU NEED A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION? MM-HMM.
WELL WHO MADE THE MOTION? NO, NO ONE'S MADE THE MOTION.
I I WE JUST HAVE A, THERE A MOTION.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION TO READ
THERE'S, WELL, I'VE GOT ONE ON PAPER HERE.
I THINK IT, IT, I DIDN'T GET, DID I GET THAT PAPER? IS IT UNDERNEATH ALL THIS STUFF? YOU MAKE A MOTION? NO, NOBODY'S MADE A MOTION.
DID WE GET IT? IT SHOULD BE PAGE.
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OKAY, SO ARE WE ALL READY FOR THE MOTION? DID HE, DOES EVERYBODY HAVE A COPY OF THE MOTION? YES.I, I I CAN'T AGREE WITH NOVEMBER 28TH.
UM, SO, SO, OKAY, WELL, CAN, CAN YOU JUST MAKE A PROPOSAL AS TO WHAT YOU DO WANT? I MOVE THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST 22ND, 2023 REGARDING THE SHEOR CLUB PROPERTIES L L C APPLICATION TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM AGRICULTURAL TO SUBURBAN, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
BE RESCHEDULED FOR, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S OCTOBER 24TH WOULD BE OUR NEXT, UM, THE DATE IN OCTOBER.
IT'S 6:00 PM WE HAVE A SECOND.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE NO MORE ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS.
UH, MA MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE WE END, CAN I JUST MAKE ONE, ONE COMMENT? ABSOLUTELY.
I CAN'T BELIEVE WALT'S WIFE HAS PUT HIM PUT UP WITH HIM FOR THAT LONG.
AND I WOULD, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID.
UM, THERE WAS QUITE A FEW COMMENTS I DON'T AGREE WITH TONIGHT, BUT I DID NOT VOTE FOR THE BUDGET.
SOMEONE SAID THAT ALL OF US VOTED IN FAVOR OF THE BUDGET AND I DID NOT.
AND I ONLY ANSWER QUESTIONS WITH HONEST ANSWERS.
SO IF I'VE OFFENDED ANYBODY WITH GIVING ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ON THE BUDGET, I'M NOT GONNA APOLOGIZE FOR IT.
'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE I'VE ANSWERED HONESTLY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANYTHING? NOPE.
SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SOLE MOVED.