* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] . GOOD EVENING [A. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America] EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UM, PUBLIC HEARING MEETING FOR NOVEMBER 28TH, 2023. UM, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND BEGIN OUR, UH, MEETING IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO I WILL BE CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER. IF ANYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, MOVING ON TO [B. Adoption of Agenda – Additions or Deletions] OUR NEXT ITEM IS OF COURSE, OF ADOPTING, UM, OUR AGENDA. SO DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO OUR AGENDA AS IT'S PRESENTED? UM, I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THE SLATE RUN FARM LLC REZONING, UM, APPLICATION FOR SOMETIME LATER THIS YEAR. UH, OTHER THAN THAT, UM, TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED. IS THERE SECOND? SECOND? OKAY. UM, DO WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, MR. MAY? A MRS. OATS? AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. MRS. COLORS? AYE. MR. LER? AYE. MS. DR. DALEY, HE HAD SOMETHING? I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THE FACT, MA'AM, THIS YEAR IS 2023. OH, I'M SORRY TO LATE. UM, JUST IT ONE YEAR. TABLE IT. GO AHEAD MA'AM. I'M SORRY. SHOULD HAVE CALLED NOVEMBER 28TH OR ROUNDABOUT OF 2024. NOVEMBER, 2024. NO LATER, NO LATER END NOVEMBER, 2024. SO DOES THAT, IS THAT GOOD? THAT'S GOOD FOR ME. OKAY. , IS THAT GOOD? OKAY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, ON OUR AGENDA THAT, UH, WE HAVE TABLED ITEM C, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR OUR 2023 DASH OH 7 0 1, WHICH IS THE SLATE RUN FORM LLC, UH, WHICH IS HIS REZONING. EIGHT I AND C OH MR. HAM'S GONNA BE REALLY YELL AT ME IF WE DON'T AGAIN VOTE. DO YOU THINK WE NEED TO READ THIS? THIS I, LET'S, I DIDN'T HAVE THAT. THAT'S WHY YOU WANT. ALRIGHT, SO YOU WANT ME TO READ THIS? YES. WELL, LET'S, LET'S BACKTRACK A LOAD PLEASE. OKAY. THIS MAKE THIS LEGAL. I MOVE THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER, 2028. 2023 REGARDING SLATE RUN FARM LLC REZONING A TO INC BE RESCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC MEETING NO LATER THAN NOVEMBER, 2024 PER THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR DELAY. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ROLL CALL MR. MAYB? AYE. MRS. OATS? AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. MRS. CU A MR. BUTLER? AYE. THANK YOU. ARE WE GOOD? OKAY. AND AGAIN, ITEM C WE WILL BE, WILL NOT BE, UM, ADDRESSING. SO WE'RE GONNA GO [D. Ordinance to Amend Chapter 30 of the Warren County Code and to add and ordain Section 30-10 - Ashley Woodall - Ashley Woodall] AHEAD TO ITEM D, WHICH IS OUR ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER 30 OF THE WARREN COUNTY CODE AND TO ADD AND OR AN ORDAINED SECTION 30 DASH 10. UM, ASHLEY WHITTLE. HELLO? UH, WE ARE ASKING TO, UH, AMEND CHAPTER 30 OF THE WARREN COUNTY CODE TO ADD AN ORDAINED SECTION 30 10, WHICH IS PAYMENT OF A ONE-TIME INCENTIVE IN FISCAL YEAR 2324 TO THE WARREN COUNTY COMMUNICATIONS OFFICERS. THIS IS, THIS WILL BE FUNDED BY A GRANT. UH, IT'S A COST RECOVERY GRANT. SO ONCE THE MONEY IS PAID OUT TO THE DISPATCHERS, THE STATE WILL REIMBURSE FULLY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. WITH THAT BEING SAID, PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. SO IS THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD IN REGARDS TO, UM, THIS ORDINANCE TO OUR CHAPTER 30? OH, GO AHEAD. YEAH, GO RIGHT AHEAD. UM, MAY I ASK WHEN DOES IT TAKE EFFECT? I MEAN, HOW LONG DOES A PERSON HAVE TO BE HERE, WHETHER THEY'RE FULL-TIME OR PART-TIME? [00:05:04] THE GRANT WAS WRITTEN IN SEPTEMBER, I BELIEVE FOR ANY CURRENT, UH, COMMUNICATIONS OFFICERS AT THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THE PAYOUT INCENTIVE IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER. AND THEN ANY NEW HIRE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICERS UP TO A TOTAL OF 14 FULL-TIME AND ONE PART-TIME WOULD RECEIVE THE INCENTIVE PAYOUT WHEN THEY HAVE REACHED AN ACCEPTABLE POINT IN THEIR TRAINING, WHICH WOULD BE WHEN THEY BECOME CERTIFIED AND COMPLETE ALL MANDATORY TRAINING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MM-HMM. , ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DID, WAS THIS, UM, DR. DALEY MONEY THAT WE UM, A GRANT THAT WE APPROVED WHAT, A MONTH OR SO AGO? OR IS THIS A DIFFERENT ONE? NO, THIS IS THE SAME GRANT THAT YOU APPROVED THAT SHE WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL WITH, UM, APPROXIMATELY A MONTH AGO. OKAY. WE JUST NEED TO AMEND THIS SO IT CAN BE DONE AND YES. BE ALL LEGAL PAYING MONEY. OKAY. I THOUGHT THAT WAS, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS A DIFFERENT ONE. YES, MA'AM. SO THANK YOU. YEP. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO I GUESS I'M CONFUSED. WE HAVE TO, TO AMEND AN ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO PAY A ONE-TIME PAYOUT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE, IF YOU DO A BONUS, MA'AM, AS, AS IT'S CALLED ACCORDING TO THE STATE CODE UNTIL WE GET A DELEGATE DOWN THERE WHO WORKS ON THIS ? UM, IT REQUIRES EACH TIME YOU, YOU HAVE ANY TYPE OF A BONUS PAYMENT THAT IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE GOVERNING BODY. YOU, YOU MAY REMEMBER WHEN THE CARESS ACT CAME THROUGH, THERE WAS THE BONUS THAT YOU HAD TO APPROVE AND THEN LAST YEAR THE COMMONWEALTH APPROVED A BONUS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, WHICH YOU HAD TO APPROVE. I UNDERSTAND THAT. IT'S JUST THE FACT THAT IT'S AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CODE OF WARREN COUNTY THAT HAS ME SNAGGED. YEAH, I KNOW THAT WE, WE DIDN'T DO THIS FOR THOSE, THAT'S KIND OF CONFUSING, RIGHT? WE, WE JUST, I DON'T RECALL AN ORDINANCE, I JUST RECALL APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION. IS THAT BECAUSE IT'S A GRANT THAT, THAT WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE PIECE OF IT OR? I DON'T THINK SO. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S JUST THE WAY MR. HAM TOLD US TO DO IT. OKAY. SO MAYBE IT'S SOME LEGAL THING I'M NOT AWARE OF. OKAY. I'M JUST, I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT IT. I DON'T THINK IT'S A GREAT, IT'S SIX AND ONE AND A HALF OF THE OTHER. BUT , IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, MR. HENDERSON, HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO MA'AM. HAVE YOU OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING? YES I HAVE. MM-HMM. OKAY. I DIDN'T HEAR YOU DO THAT. WANT ME HIT THE, GRAB THOSE. OKAY. . UM, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK? THE SECOND CALL, FINAL CALL. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. SO MR. HEND, EXCUSE ME, DO WE HAVE A MOTION I MOVE THAT WARREN COUNTY CODE CHAPTER 30 BE AMENDED TO ADD A NEW SECTION 30 DASH 10 AS PRESENTED. SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE. MR. BUTLER. AYE. MRS. CALLERS? AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. MRS. OS? AYE. MR. MAY AYE. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM ON [E. R2023-09-01 - Comprehensive Plan Amendment - Future Land Use Map - Jennifer Wynn (Riverside Parcel 1 LLC) - Chase Lenz] OUR AGENDA IS R 2023 DASH OH NINE DASH OH ONE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR FUTURE LAND USE FOR UH, GEN JENNIFER WYNN OF RIVERSIDE PARCEL ONE LLC. MR. LENTZ THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. THE APPLICANT JENNIFER WYNN ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER RIVERSIDE PARCEL ONE LLC HAS SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION REQUESTING THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 0 3 5 3 STONEWALL JACKSON HIGHWAY AND IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 28 AS PARCEL 1 24 A FROM AGRICULTURAL TO COMMERCIAL. THE TOTAL ACREAGE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS 1.66 ACRES. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTH RIVER MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN ADJACENT LOT 1 24 ARE THE SITE OF A HISTORIC HOTEL MOTEL THAT OPERATED IN THE COUNTY FROM BEFORE 1940 UNTIL 1985. WHEN THE PROPERTIES WERE APPROVED FOR MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS, THE ADJACENT LOT 1 24 WAS DESIGNATED WITH COMMERCIAL ZONING ON THE WARREN COUNTY ZONING MAP ADOPTED WITH THE CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE OF WARREN COUNTY ON AUGUST 18TH, 1992. IN CONSIDERATION OF THE MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS AND HOTEL MOTEL USES, HOTEL MOTEL IS A USE PERMITTED BY WRIGHT IN THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT WHILE MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENTS ARE NO LONGER PERMITTED IN ANY ZONING DISTRICT IN THE COUNTY, ALTHOUGH THE USE EXTENDS INTO LOT 1 24 A, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS DESIGNATED WITH AGRICULTURAL ZONING. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE REZONING OF LOT 1 24 A TO MATCH THE COMMERCIAL ZONING OF THE ADJACENT LOT. 1 24. AS AN INITIAL STEP IN THEIR EFFORT TO REESTABLISH THE ORIGINAL HOTEL MOTEL USE COMPLIANT WITH CURRENT STATE AND LOCAL ORDINANCES. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN [00:10:01] THE WARREN COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS AGRICULTURAL, WHICH IS INTENDED FOR AREAS WHERE GENERAL AGRICULTURAL PURSUITS OUR PRACTICE WHERE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS MAY BE SITUATED WITHOUT DEGRADING THE ENVIRONMENT AND WHERE IT EXPANSES OF OPEN SPACES BEST EXIST FOR PARKS, PLAYGROUNDS, GAME PRESERVES AND SIMILAR USES FOR A REZONING OF THE PROPERTY TO COMMERCIAL TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP NEEDS TO BE AMENDED TO DESIGNATE THE PROPERTY AS COMMERCIAL. THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT IS INTENDED FOR AREA SUITABLE FOR THE CONDUCT OF GENERAL BUSINESS, NOT CHARACTERIZED BY EITHER CONSTANT HEAVY TRUCKING OR NUISANCE FACTORS INTO WHICH THE PUBLIC REQUIRES DIRECT AND FREQUENT ACCESS. UM, WITH THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THIS ITEM AND THEY DID MOVE THIS FORWARD, UH, IN OCTOBER WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. IT WAS A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION. THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED. THANK YOU. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. SO IS THE APPLICANT. YES SIR. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? HI. HI, I'M JENNIFER WYNN HERE. UM, DO YOU NEED MY ADDRESS TOO? I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW THAT, SORRY. LAST TIME I HAD TO ANNOUNCE ADDRESS AND STUFF. YEAH. NEED IF YOU DON'T MIND. OKAY. YES PLEASE. SO, JENNIFER WYNN, 1 49 SOUTH FUNK STREET IN STRASSBURG, VIRGINIA 2 2 6 5 7. AND WE'RE JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE REGARDING THIS. MM-HMM. REQUEST. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS, TOM, FOR THE APPLICANT? SO CAN, MAY I ASK IT PLEASE? YES. SO YOU ARE THE PROPERTY MANAGER, NOT THE OWNER, CORRECT? CORRECT. CORRECT. OKAY. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR FOR ANYBODY WHO WAS WATCHING THAT, THAT YOU ARE MANAGING THE PROPERTY ON BEHALF OF AN LLC. IS THAT CORRECT OR IS IT AN INC? IT IS AN LLC RIVER RIVERSIDE PARCEL ONE LLC? YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. SO THE, THE PLAN AT THIS POINT, UM, I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS AN ACTIVE, UM, I DON'T GO BACK TO 1940S NOT THAT FAR, BUT I DO REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS, UM, A RESTAURANT IN UM, MORE OF A TOURIST THING THAN WHAT IT IS NOW. UM, AND THAT IS THE INTENT TO HAVE THAT AS MORE OF A TOURIST OR UM, AND YOU'RE GONNA START CABIN BY CABIN REHABBING THEM. SO WHAT IS THE DURATION OF TIME BEFORE THIS WOULD BE UP AND RUNNING? YEAH, SO IT DID USED TO BE THE FRONT ROYAL MOTOR COURT AND THERE WAS A RESTAURANT THERE IN THE FRONT AND THEN THE CABINS WERE OPERATED AS A HOTEL. AND THEN AFTER THAT, UM, IT WAS, IT WAS REPURCHASED AND UM, THERE WAS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PUT ON THE PROPERTY FOR LONG-TERM RESIDENTIAL. AND SO IT'S BEEN THIS LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD BASICALLY FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. NONE OF THE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN MAINTAINED OR UPDATED, YOU KNOW, AND UM, THEY'RE PRETTY ROUGH CONDITIONS RIGHT NOW. THERE'S STILL A FEW PEOPLE LIVING THERE, BUT UM, THEY ALL DO NEED TO BE COMPLETELY REHABBED. OUR PLAN HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT CHANGING ALONG THE WAY. WE'RE MEETING WITH, UH, DAVID BEAM TOMORROW ACTUALLY TO GO OVER LIKE A TENTATIVE SITE PLAN SHOWING, UM, WHERE WE WANT TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSITY AND UM, OBVIOUSLY REPLACE ALL OF THE UNITS THAT ARE THERE BECAUSE OF LIKE THEIR FOUNDATIONS AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY'RE HAVING THERE. SO THAT'S REALLY GONNA BE OUR FIRST STEP NEXT IS TO GET THIS SITE PLAN, YOU KNOW, APPROVED AND OBVIOUSLY GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE ON BOARD AND, AND HELP GUIDE US ALONG THE WAY WITH WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO LEGITIMATELY. AND WE'VE MET WITH VO AND OBVIOUSLY UNDERSTAND THERE'S ISSUES WITH, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO PULL IN SAFELY AND PULL OUT OF THERE SAFELY. AND WE HAVE UM, PROFFERED TO CLOSE ONE OF THE ENTRANCES. THERE ARE THREE THERE. ONE WAS REAL DANGEROUS SO WE'VE CERTAINLY PROFFERED TO DO THAT. THE OTHER ONE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE CLOSED TOO, BUT DEPENDING ON THE SITE PLAN AND WHAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS, MIGHT, MIGHT NEED FOR COMING IN. YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT HAVE TO LEAVE IT OPEN WITH A GATE, I DON'T KNOW. BUT SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING ON A SITE PLAN. I MEAN WE WANT WORK TO BEGIN RIGHT AWAY. THE FUNDING IS ALREADY THERE AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF FINALIZING THINGS AND FINDING OUT WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO. SO YOU SAID HIGHER DENSITY. WHAT IS THE NUMBER? 'CAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER OF CABINS NOW AND WHAT DO YOU EXPECT IT TO BE WHEN YOU FINISH? SURE. SO WE HAVE 22 UNITS RIGHT NOW. FOUR OF THOSE ARE IN THAT APARTMENT BUILDING, WHICH WAS THE OLD RESTAURANT. MM-HMM. . AND THEN ALL OF THE OTHER ONES ARE THERE, KIND OF ALIGN THE, WITH THE CLIFF SIDE PART OF THE PROPERTY. UM, OUR GOAL IS TO GO TO 40, BUT UM, AND WE'VE, YOU KNOW, GOT THIS ON THIS, UH, LIKE A SITE DESIGN WHERE WE'RE SHOWING BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF EMPTY PROPERTY THERE, BUT WE'D LIKE TO MAKE IT A REAL NICE PLACE WITH WALKING PATHS AND, YOU KNOW, TREES AND WE WANT TO KEEP ALL OF THE MATURE TREES THAT ARE THERE AND, YOU KNOW, ADD A POOL AND LIKE A LITTLE COMMUNITY AREA AND JUST TURN IT INTO A [00:15:01] REAL NICE, UM, ALMOST RESORT STYLE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME AND ENJOY THAT SIDE OF TOWN BECAUSE THERE JUST REALLY ISN'T A LOT FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND STAY AND GO HIKING AND, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE RIVER AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HAVING TO STAY ALL THE WAY ACROSS TOWN IN A HOTEL OR GET AN AIRBNB, WHICH, YOU KNOW, PRICES ARE GETTING UP THERE ON THOSE TWO. AND UM, SO THAT'S REALLY OUR GOAL IS JUST TO TURN THIS INTO A PLACE PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE COMING BACK TO AND THEY'LL COME FOR LONG WEEKENDS AND UM, AND JUST BE, ENJOY THE PROPERTY SO MUCH THAT THEY'RE TORN BETWEEN HIKING OR STAYING . RIGHT. I GUESS MY CONCERN THERE IS, UM, THE HIGHER DENSITY, THE MORE TRAFFIC AND THAT'S A, YOU, YOU, YOU SAID THE WORD DANGEROUS AREA THERE. IT'S YES. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A CONCERN FOR, FOR ME. UM, YES, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN AND UM, AND JUST, I JUST WANT YOU TO REMEMBER, WE, WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO WORK WITH VDOT TO MAKE SURE IT'S ALL SAFE WITH THE ENTRANCE. UH, YOU KNOW, PART OF OUR DESI OUR SITE PLAN NOW INCLUDES REMOVING THAT APARTMENT BUILDING COMPLETELY SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A BETTER CUTOFF CUT IN, YOU KNOW, FROM THE ROAD. IT'LL ALLOW FOR A LONGER, UM, A WIDER ENTRANCE TO THE PLACE. AND UM, THAT, SO THAT BIG BUILDING THAT SITS THERE RIGHT ALONG THE ROAD, THE OLD RESTAURANT. THE OLD RESTAURANT, YEAH. THE, IN OUR PLAN THAT'S COMING DOWN COMPLETELY TO ALLOW FOR SAFER ENTRY. OKAY. THAT, THAT HELPS ME. GOOD. , THAT HELPS ME. 'CAUSE I, YOU KNOW, PULLING OFF THE ROAD THERE, THERE'S NOT MUCH ROOM. YEAH. ALSO VISUALIZE IN THE WAY IT IS NOW. I, I WISHED I HAD BEEN ABLE TO GET INTO, YOU KNOW, TO SEE WHAT YOUR PLAN LOOKS LIKE. I THINK I WOULD HAVE, UM, BETTER FEELINGS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THIS. UH, I ALWAYS LIKE TO DO AS MUCH ON SITE AND SEEING WHAT THE PLANS ARE. UM, SO THAT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER THAT YOU ARE GONNA MOVE THAT SO THAT YOU DO HAVE SOME GET OFF THE ROAD AREA THERE BECAUSE IT'S STANDARDS, IT MAY BE 50 MILES AN HOUR THERE, BUT YEAH, IT IS, I DARE SAY MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY GOING 50 MILES AN HOUR THERE. TRUE. YES, I AGREE. WE DEFINITELY WANNA MAKE IT SAFE AND, AND UM, INTEND TO FULLY INTEND TO REMOVE THAT WHOLE BUILDING JUST IN THAT, TO SOLVE THAT ISSUE BECAUSE IT IS NOT FAST AND CARS ARE GOING A LITTLE TOO FAST THROUGH THERE. SO, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THEN THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF DEMOLITION THERE, YOU SAID THE OLD FOUNDATIONS OF SOME OF THE CURRENT CABINS AND SO FORTH, SO IT'S SOUNDS LIKE A MORE THAN A REMODEL. THAT'S OUR HOPE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT PART WITH THE SITE AND THE TOWN, THE SITE PLAN WITH THE TOWN. WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY STARTING TOMORROW MEETING. WE HAVE A SCHEDULED MEETING WITH DAVID BEAM TO GO OVER WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO AND UM, WE HAD A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND AN AND ANOTHER ARCHITECT COME TOGETHER TO HELP REALLY PUT THIS PLAN TOGETHER. UM, IT'S NOT LIKE A FINAL PERFECT PLAN, BUT IT'S ENOUGH FOR US TO START WORKING WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO FIND OUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO AND NOT BE ABLE TO DO. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I MEAN, I WILL TELL YOU SOME OF THESE FOUNDATIONS ARE LITERALLY ON ROCKS OR ON A FOUR BY FOUR ON A ROCK AND, UM, THEY WERE BUILT SO MANY YEARS AGO. IT'S AMAZING THEY'RE STILL STANDING, HONESTLY. AND SOME, SOME DEFINITELY WILL NEED TO BE COMPLETELY, UM, DEMOLISHED AND JUST FOR SAFETY REASONS IF NOTHING ELSE. OKAY, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. ABSOLUTELY. I DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, YEAH, GO AHEAD MADAM CHAIR. I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD, UH, IF THIS IS APPROVED, THAT THAT SITE PLAN WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH, UH, COUNTY STAFF FOR REVIEW AND A AGENCY AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE, PLAINTIFF COMMISSION IS REQUIRED TO REVIEW, REVIEW IT, REVIEW AND APPROVE IT AS, AS A FINAL SITE PLAN. SO WE WOULD ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE REQUESTS, ALL THOSE CONCERNS, UH, AND SUBMIT THIS TO VDOT FOR THEIR COMMENTS. SO, MM-HMM. , UH, AT THE SITE PLAN PHASE. YEP. OKAY, THANK YOU. YEAH. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST DOING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT RIGHT NOW IN THE REZONING. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. MY PLEASURE. YEAH, THANK YOU. MR. HENDERSON, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO MA'AM. NO. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK? I, UH, COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND, UH, EDWARD CONNELLEY AND YOUR ADDRESS? UH, BLUE SHADOWS. MM-HMM. . AND, UM, I GOT MY INFORMATION TODAY OFF THE SIDE OF A MAILBOX, A COUPLE PARAGRAPHS SAYING THAT THIS WAS REZONING HEARING. OKAY. SO I CAME TO, UH, GIVE MY OPPOSITION TO THE, TO THE, UM, WAREHOUSES THAT THEY, TO RE UH, PUT [00:20:01] IN THE REZONE FOR THE 400 AND SOME ACRES, UH, BETWEEN I GUESS BLUE SHADOWS AND LAKE JACKSON. AM I NOT, AM I OUT OF ORDER HERE OR? YEAH, YEAH, BECAUSE UH, THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SLATE RUN, RIGHT? YES. RIGHT. AND WE'VE TABLED THAT ON PUBLIC HEARING PER THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, SO WE WON'T BE SPEAKING WITH THAT OR ADDRESSING IT. OKAY. DID I MISS THAT TONIGHT? NO, IT WAS, IT'S, IT WAS SCHEDULED FOR TONIGHT AND THEN WE GOT A REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT TO, UM, TABLE THE PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS NO, NO LATER THAN NOVEMBER 20. NOVEMBER, 2024. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO THIS PUBLIC HEARING WAS, UM, FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. OKAY, WELL I APOLOGIZE. OH, NO WORRIES. TAKING THE TIME. NO WORRIES. YOU KNOW, WE TRIED TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GOT THE NOTIFICATION IT WAS YESTERDAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU. I'M GLAD YOU CAME. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT? SECOND CALL. LAST AND FINAL CALL. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION FOR THE PROPERTY IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 28 AS AS PARTIAL 1 24 A FROM AGRICULTURAL TO COMMERCIAL. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE. MR. MAYB? AYE. MRS. OATS? AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. MRS. S AYE. MR. BUTLER? AYE. THANK YOU. [F. R2023-09-01 - Rezoning - Jennifer Wynn (Riverside Parcel 1 LLC) - Chase Lenz ] MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM IS R 20 23 0 9 DASH OH ONE REZONING FOR JENNIFER WYNN OF THE RIVERSIDE PARCEL ONE LLC. MR. LINZ. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. ATTACHED YOU'LL FIND THE REZONING APPLICATION FROM JENNIFER WYNN ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER RIVERSIDE PARCEL ONE LLC REQUESTING TO AMEND THE WARREN COUNTY ZONING MAP TO REZONE 1.66 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1 0 3 5 3 STONEWALL JACKSON HIGHWAY AND IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 28 OF LOT 1 24 A, UM, INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKETS WAS IN A STAFF REPORT LOCATION MAP, HISTORIC PHOTOS THAT WERE INCLUDED FROM THE HISTORIC HOTEL AND A STATEMENT OF JUSTIFICATION APPLICATION FROM THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS A VOLUNTARY PROFFER STATEMENT. PROPERTY MAPS AND COMMENTS FROM LOCAL AND STATE AGENCIES. UH, SO BOWERS RIVERSIDE CABINS WAS ESTABLISHED ON LOTS 1 24 AND 1 24 A PRIOR TO 1940. OLDEST THING WE HAVE IS A POSTCARD DATED 1940. SO WE KNEW IT EXISTED THEN. UM, AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DID APPROVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS FOR THE ADJACENT LOT 1 24, WHICH ALLOWED FOR THE LONG-TERM RENTAL OF THE CABIN UNITS. AND UPON ADOPTION OF THE CURRENT WARREN COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE IN 1992, THE USE FOR MULTI-FAMILY CABINS BECAME NON-CONFORMING. SINCE IT IS NOT A PERMITTED LISTED USE IN THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT RIGHT IN THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS, UH, REESTABLISHING THE HOTEL MOTEL LAND USE WILL REQUIRE THE USE TO BE BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE WARREN COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE, INCLUDING A SITE PLAN TO BE REVIEWED BY STATE AND LOCAL AGENCIES AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF. UM, SO WE DID JUST ADDRESS THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE HAVE, UH, UPDATED THE, UM, FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND SO THIS REZONING WOULD NOW BE COMPATIBLE, UH, WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UH, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REVISED PROFFER STATEMENT DATED SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2023, INCLUDES A ONE-TIME MONETARY CONTRIBUTION TO WARREN COUNTY FOR ITS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM DEDICATED TO FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES AND ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN BUILDING MATERIALS AND BUILDING MATERIAL COLOR REQUIREMENTS CONSISTENT WITH THE REGULATIONS OF OUR HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT. AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO VOLUNTARILY PROFFERING THE CLOSURE OF THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE OF THE PROPERTY, UM, TO ADDRESS VDO T'S COMMENTS AND, UH, THEY HAVE PLACED RESTRICTIONS ON SPECIFIC LISTED PERMITTED USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT. AND THAT INCLUDES AUTOMOBILE FILLING STATION BUILDING SUPPLY, SMALL DISTRIBUTION CENTER, UH, FUNERAL PARLOR OR MORTUARY, AND ALSO ENCLOSED STORAGE. AND SO WE DID REQUEST COMMENTS FROM VDOT, THE WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES. UM, VDOT PROVIDED COMMENTS FOR EACH ENTRANCE. NOW, UH, I DID WANT TO NOTE THAT ONLY ONE OF THESE ENTRANCES TECHNICALLY SERVES 1 24 A, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING TODAY FOR THE REZONING. AND THAT ONE, UH, ENTRANCE, THEY HAVE PROFFERED TO CLOSE. UM, AND SO IT WOULD BE SERVED BY THE ENTRANCE ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. [00:25:03] AND FOR FROM BUILDING INSPECTIONS, THEY WILL NEED CHANGE OF USE PERMITS FOR EACH, UH, LODGING UNIT. AND SO THOSE ALL NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP TO, UH, THE CURRENT BUILDING CODE AND MAY, UH, REQUIRE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES AND THE ACCESS TO THE BUILDINGS. AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT INDICATED THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THE REZONING REQUESTS. THE APPLICANT WOULD WORK WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IF THEY WERE TO ABANDON, IMPROVE, OR REPLACE, UH, THE SEPTIC SYSTEM ON THE PROPERTY. AND, UH, FIRE AND RESCUE DID GET TO DO A SITE VISIT AND THEY NOTED THAT THERE IS SOME VEGETATION ALONG THE DRIVEWAY FOR THE, THE DWELLING ON LOT 1 24 A, THE FULL SIZE DWELLING, UH, FOR, UH, FIRE APPARATUS ACCESS AND ALL OF ALL OF THESE THINGS WE WOULD ADDRESS DURING THE SITE PLAN PROCESS AS WELL AS THE V DOT COMMENTS FOR THE OTHER ENTRANCES. IT WOULD BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS, US AND, UH, ON OCTO IN OCTOBER, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID MOVE THIS FORWARD TO YOU ALL WITH A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN. UM, DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR OUR APPLICANT? I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY FOR THE APPLICANT OR MR. WENDLING, UH, READING THE, UM, THE VDOT INFORMATION. UM, THEY GIVE I THINK THREE CHOICES OF TYPES OF ENTRANCES, BUT NONE OF THEM HAVE ENOUGH SIGHT DISTANCE. SO HOW IS, HOW IS THAT GONNA WORK? WELL, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO NO, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. EITHER OR I JUST, MR. MAY EVEN THERE WAS, THERE, THERE IS, UM, LIKE A BOULDER AREA RIGHT, WHERE I THINK THEY WERE RECOMMENDING WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A CUTBACK ON THAT TO OPEN A LONGER DISTANCE, WHICH WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY PUT THAT IN OUR SITE PLAN TOO, ON THE MAIN ENTRANCE THERE IN THE CENTER. UH, I THINK IT'S THE, IT'S THE SOUTH SIDE, RIGHT? THAT WHERE THERE'S LIKE THIS ROCK FORMATION MM-HMM THAT STARTS TO COME UP AND THAT'S WHAT'S IMPEDING ON SOME THAT WOULD GIVE US A LOT MORE DISTANCE IF WE REMOVE PART OF THAT. SO THAT'S OUR INITIAL PLANNING AND, AND THINKING RIGHT NOW TO ADDRESS IT, IT'S, IT'S A STEEP SLOPE EMBANKMENT, RIGHT? AND, AND SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SHAVED DOWN. AND THEN ALSO, UH, PROBABLY SOME LANDSCAPING TO THE NORTH, WHAT MIGHT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AS FAR AS REMOVAL TO GIVE ADDITIONAL SITE DISTANCE FOR, FOR BOTH, BOTH WAYS. BUT, UM, UH, I BELIEVE THAT THEY FELT THAT IF THOSE ITEMS COULD BE DONE, THEY COULD MEET THE SITE DISTANCE, UH, AND BRINGING IT DOWN JUST TO THE ONE ENTRANCE. AND OF COURSE THEY WOULD HAVE REQUIRE A, A VDOT PERMIT, YOU KNOW, TO DO ALL OF THAT WORK AND, AND, AND ANY, ANY ENGINEERING REQUIREMENTS WOULD NEED TO BE SUBMITTED. OKAY. SO, SO, SO WHEN THEY DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, DOES IT, IS IT VDOT THAT DOES IT OR IS IT THE, THE, UH, OWNER WHO THE OWNER DOES THE WORK AND THE OWNER PULLS THE VDOT PERMIT? UH, IT'S A LAND USE PERMIT THROUGH VDOT AND THEY SUBMIT ALL THE ENGINEERING PLAN REQUIREMENTS THAT VDOT HAVE FOR THE WORK THAT'S TO BE DONE. AND THEN, UH, BUT THEY, THEY CONTRACT, UH, THE OWNER CONTRACTS, THE ONES TO DO THAT WORK. OKAY, BUT DOESN'T VO INSPECT IT AFTERWARDS TO MAKE SURE IT NEEDS THAT'S CORRECT. VDOT HAS TO SIGN OFF. IT IS THEIR PERMIT, NOT THE COUNTIES. AND SO THAT DOES SIGN OFF ON THAT PERMIT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND ALSO, JUST TO ADD, SO YOU ALL KNOW WE ARE WORKING WITH GREENWAY ENGINEERING. UM, THEY'VE COME OUT AND DONE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH AND UM, ALL ALL ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO KNOW FOR EASEMENTS AND YOU KNOW, THESE RAILWAYS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT TOO. SO THEY'RE INVOLVED ON THIS PROJECT AS WELL. SO WILL THAT MEAN, UM, I KNOW THAT'S PARKING AREA FOR THOSE UNITS THAT ARE ALONG THERE. ARE YOU GONNA HAVE ALTERNATE PARKING SO THAT THERE'S NO PARKING THERE AT ALL? ACTUALLY YES, IN OUR SITE PLAN I'D LOVE TO MEET WITH YOU. SO I JUST REALIZED YOU'RE SOUTH RIVER BUSINESS. YES. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING TOO MANY QUESTIONS. YES, I SHOULD HAVE REACHED OUT ALREADY AND I APOLOGIZE AND I'LL REACH OUT TO YOU AFTER, UH, TODAY TO SEE I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT YES, AND OUR PLAN, UM, THE ONE WE WANT TO PROPOSE IS, UM, PARKING IS GONNA BE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, PARKING AT EACH OF THE, OF THE, UM, THE BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, THE CABINS, WE WANNA HAVE LIKE A DESIGNATED AREA FOR PARKING AND THEN WALKING, WE, WE REALIZE WE HAVE TO HAVE A ROAD WIDE ENOUGH FOR FIRE TRUCKS TO GET THROUGH AN EMERGENCY, BUT WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE CARS HAVE BEEN THROUGH AND AROUND. SO WE'LL HAVE LIKE DESIGNATED PARKING AREAS ON THE PROPERTY. OKAY. AND, UM, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY SHOWING ON OUR PLAN TOO, BUT I'LL DEFINITELY REACH OUT AND UM, AND SCHEDULE TIME WITH YOU. [00:30:01] THE OWNER WILL BE BACK IN TOWN SOON, I'M SURE HE'D LOVE TO COME AND MEET YOU AS WELL. AND UM, ALSO TOMORROW MEETING, LIKE I SAID WITH UH, DAVID SAID THAT'LL HELP US START TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO EVEN CONSIDER AND I'LL BRING A SITE PLAN. OKAY. WELL I APPRECIATE THAT. I, I'LL BE HONEST, I'VE, I'VE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE YOU KNOW OF THIS, THE AREA AND THE THREE 40 AND THE SITE DISTANCE AND THEN READING THIS I WAS LIKE, WOW, V O'S GIVING YOU SOME CHOICES HERE, BUT NONE OF THEM MEET THEIR SPECS. SO, UM, HOW IS THIS GONNA WORK? SO THAT, UM, THAT HELPS ME WITH THIS AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO, TO MEET WITH YOU. YEAH. SO THANK YOU. I WOULD ENJOY THAT TOO. SO FROM READING THIS, IT APPEARS THAT ENTRANCE NUMBER TWO WILL BE THE ENTRANCE THAT VDOT RECOMMENDS THAT WILL MEET YOUR SITE DISTANCE ONCE YOU GRADE THE SLOPE. AND IT ALSO SAYS CLOSING ONE AND THREE WILL GIVE YOU THE MINIMUM SPACING THAT YOU WILL NEED TO HAVE 555 FEET FROM, FROM AT THE ENTRANCE, I GUESS. AND SO THAT WILL GIVE YOU, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING READING THIS, IT'S HARD TO ENVISION THAT WHEN YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE. YEAH. TO SEE WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS. BUT FROM WHAT I'M READING IN ENTRANCE NUMBER TWO WILL BE THE MAIN ENTRANCE. THAT'S RIGHT. AND YOU MAY HAVE, ARE YOU GONNA HAVE A, UM, A DECELERATION LANE I GUESS, OR ARE YOU GONNA BE REQUIRED TO HAVE SOME BECAUSE THAT'S ON A TERM, A TURNING LANE. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE NICE. SO WILL YOU HAVE A TURNING, ARE THEY GONNA REQUIRE THAT YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF TURNING LANE TO GET INTO THE PROPERTY? WE ASSUME THEY PROBABLY ARE. OKAY. WHICH IS WHY WE'RE JUST REMOVING THAT APARTMENT BUILDING. 'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA GIVE US THE SPACE, THE SPACE THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED FOR THEM TO PULL IN. AND UM, AND YEAH, THERE'S THREE, UM, THIS, THIS, THE SECOND ONE IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. IT'S PRETTY WIDE ALREADY, RIGHT? IT'S JUST PULLING OUT FROM THE PARKING LOT. YOU DON'T HAVE THE 520 FEET GOING EACH WAY FOR THE VISIBILITY. AND THE, IN THE FIRST ENTRANCE ON THE NORTH SIDE IS REALLY, IT'S PRETTY BAD. LIKE, BUT YOU COULD PULL IN THERE POSSIBLY BECAUSE IT'S SORT OF UP ON THE HILL BEFORE THE TURN. IT'S JUST A SMALL UNMARKED REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT JUST GATE IT OFF, MAYBE JUST LEAVE IT FOR MAINTENANCE. THAT REALLY HASN'T BEEN DECIDED YET. WE WANTED TO WAIT AND SORT OF SEE WHAT EVERYBODY RECOMMENDS WITH THE SITE PLAN. THE THIRD ONE, WE KNOW IT HAS TO BE CLOSED. IT'S NOT SAFE TO EVER PULL OUT OF THERE. YOU COULD PROBABLY PULL IN THERE, BUT DEFINITELY NOT OUT. AND THERE'S, THERE'S NO REASON TO TO KEEP THAT. SO THAT'S GONNA BE CLOSED AND UH, IT'S GONNA BE TRICKY. I MEAN, IT'S NOT GONNA BE EASY. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE GREENWAY AND, AND VDOT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, ARCHITECTS AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED JUST TO HELP US DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EVEN DOING, UM, A WALL ALONG THROUGH THERE WITH SOME VEGETATION, YOU KNOW, FOR, TO MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE AND TO MAKE IT MORE OBVIOUS THAT THIS, THIS IS A COMMUNITY COMING THAT THEY'RE DRIVING UP ON AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, SO WE, YEAH, WE'VE BEEN EXPLORING ALL THESE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND WE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HAS TO BE, HAS TO MEET ALL THIS CODE AND REQUIREMENTS AND MAKE IT SAFE AND, UM, WE'RE READY. IT DOESN'T HELP THAT THE CAVERNS IS RIGHT ACROSS THERE AND TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT OF THERE IS GONNA BE, UM, INTERESTING DEALING WITH TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUTTA YOURS AS WELL AS THE THROUGH TRAFFIC. IT'S, IT'S AN INTERESTING LITTLE SPOT THERE. IT REALLY IS. I MEAN I, UH, FRANKLY I THINK THE SPEED LIMIT NEEDS TO BE LOWER THROUGH THERE. WE'VE, WE'VE WITNESSED CAR ACCIDENTS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE, UM, THE CAVERNS THERE AND CARS ARE, YOU KNOW, GOING WELL I HAD TO FIGHT TO GET TRUCK TRAFFIC DOWN TO 45. I'M WILLING TO GO BACK TO TRY TO GET IT LOWER THAN 50, BUT I'LL JOIN YOU, I'LL JOIN YOU ON THAT. I WELCOME COMPANY WITH THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, NOT AT THIS TIME. NOT AT THE BANK. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU MR. HENDERSON, DID WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK? NO MA'AM. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK SECOND CALL. LAST AND FINAL CALL. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR MR. WENDLING. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN IMPRESS UPON VDOT THAT WE WANT A TURNING LANE THERE IN CASE THAT'S NOT IN THEIR SPECS? WE CAN CERTAINLY REQUEST THAT. SURE. UH, I BELIEVE THAT PART OF, UH, THREE 40 IS IN A SMART SCALE. UH, IT'S, BUT I, I KNOW THAT'S PART [00:35:02] WHERE, IF THAT'S AT THE OUTER EDGE OF IT OR NOT, I'M NOT SURE ANYTHING WE CAN GET FROM THE APPLICANT THAT MAKES IT SAFER, WE'LL CERTAINLY REQUEST THAT OF E DDOT. WE'LL, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT ATTORNEY APPLICANT AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED, UH, UH, A SAMPLE IN THEIR, THEIR COMMENTS OF THE COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE DESIGNS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU TOOK A LOOK AT THEM. ONE DOES SHOW A TAPERED ENTRANCE, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, PROVIDES THAT, THAT BIT OF DISTANCE THAT THEY CAN TURN. SO CERTAINLY ANYTHING THAT, THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE APPLICANT, THE APPLICANT'S WILLING TO PUT IT IN, UH, IT SAVES, UH, VDOT FROM HAVING TO DO THAT AS PART OF THE SMART SCALE PROJECT IF IT WAS TO BE A PART OF THAT. SO, UM, WELL I'M NOT SURE AT THIS POINT WE CAN ADD THAT IN SINCE IT WASN'T PART OF THE PLAN IF WE COULD, I I'M NOT SAYING, BUT I WOULD BE AGAINST, WE WOULD TO DO THAT. I I THINK THAT WE'VE, WE'VE COME ACROSS THIS IN TOO MANY PLACES, HIGH NOT BEING ONE OF THEM. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO BE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE SINCE WE'RE AT THE PLANNING STAGE OF THIS. AND I THINK IT WOULD BENEFIT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE USING THE, UM, I MEAN IT CAN BE A BEAUTIFUL PLACE, BUT SOMEBODY GETS TAIL END GOING INTO IT THAT'S GONNA LEAVE A LASTING IMPRESSION OF, I'VE I ENJOYED MY STAY EXCEPT FOR MY CAR GOT TOTALED. UM, SO I I I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THAT IN AS A REQUIREMENT. YEAH, WE'LL ASK, UH, TO SEE THOSE, UH, TRANSPORTATION, UH, IMPROVEMENT PLANS AT THE TIME THAT THEY SUBMIT 'EM TO VDO. WE'LL ASK FOR A COPY OF THOSE AND, AND TALK TO VDOT ABOUT THAT. OKAY. SO, AND WE CAN ADDRESS THAT DURING OUR DEV DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING AND ALSO, UH, WITH VDOT, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME OF THE APPLICATION THAT WE REQUEST COMMENTS. OKAY. WELL WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO NOT LET VDOT SAY, EH, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. YEAH. THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS REQUIRING THAT IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. YEAH. THANK YOU. WELL, JUST TO ADD TO THAT, THIS IS ALL PRELIMINARY PRELIMINARY RIGHT NOW. CORRECT. AS FAR AS THESE PLANS AND STUFF AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING JUST TO GET THE ZONING APPROVED AND THEN WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PHASE. RIGHT. WILL WE BE ADDRESSING ALL THESE HEALTH AND HEALTH AND SAFETY CONCERNS? THE SPECIFICITIES OF IT? YES. RIGHT, RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. NO, I JUST WANT THAT NOTED. YEAH. THANK YOU. WE'LL DO THAT. SO ABSOLUTELY. ALRIGHT, SO I, UM, DID WE HAVE, LET ME GO BACK. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? IS THERE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION THAT WE MAY HAVE? LET'S SEE, I HAD TO GET BACK TO IT. FINDING THAT THE REQUEST OF REZONING IS APPROPRIATE FOR PUBLIC NECESSITY AND IS GOOD ZONING PRACTICE. I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THAT'S WORDED NECESSARILY. I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE REQUEST TO REZONE AND CHANGE THE ZONING MAP CLASSIFICATION OF THE PROPERTY IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 28 IS PARCEL 1 24 A FROM AGRICULTURAL TO COMMERCIAL. I MEAN, IT IT IS COMMERCIAL. SO THAT MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE, MR. BUTLER? AYE MRS. SCHOLARS? AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. MRS. OATS? AYE. MR. ME? AYE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MM-HMM, GOING [G. CUP2023-09-01 - Douglas Salzman] ON TO OUR NEXT ISLAND, ISLAND ITEM . IT IS CUP 2023 DASH OH NINE DASH OH ONE DOUGLAS S FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR PRIVATE USE CAMPING. MR. CHASE, MR. LINZ, I SHOULD SAY MR. CHASE LINZ. I KNOW CHASE LIN, WE'LL CALL HIM BY HIS HOME . THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR PRIVATE USE CAMPING ON A LOT IN THE SHENANDOAH RIVER ESTATE SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS LOCATED MOSTLY WITHIN THE SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA. THE APPLICANT PURCHASED A LOT IN NOVEMBER OF 2022. THE LOT IS PARTIALLY WOODED, IT IS VACANT, UH, BUT IT IS PARTIALLY WOODED WITH THE FRONT HALF OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE REGULATORY FLOODWAY AND TOWARD THE RIVERSIDE OF, OF THE PROPERTY IN THE REAR HALF. UH, LOCATED IS STILL LOCATED IN THE HIGH RISK FLOOD ZONE AE THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO USE THE LOT FOR NON-COMMERCIAL RECREATIONAL CAMPING. THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WOULD ALSO ALLOW THE OWNER TO ERECT A SINGLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE UP TO 200 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE FOR STORAGE OF RECREATIONAL AND PROPERTY MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT UPON ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT AND SAID BUILDING WOULD HAVE FLOOD VENTS AND BE, UH, STRAPPED, UH, PROPERLY SECURED. UM, I WILL NOTE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ON A CORNER LOT DOES NOT HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF WIDTH. UH, AND SO IT'S PRETTY RESTRICTED AS FAR AS, UH, RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION AND ALSO THE, THE SETBACK FROM THE, THE 50 FOOT SETBACK [00:40:01] REQUIRED FROM THE EDGE OF THE REGULATORY FLOODWAY, UH, LARGELY RESTRICTS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY. IT WOULD NEED A FEW VARIANCES THAT WOULD NOT BE ADVISABLE TO BUILD A HOUSE THERE. UM, AND WE DO HAVE, UH, SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET FOR, UH, RECREATIONAL VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL WARN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS. NUMBER TWO, THE MATERIALS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CAMPERS ARE TO BE STORED IN A NEAT AND ORDERLY FASHION DURING THE TIME OF USE AND ARE TO BE REMOVED FROM THE SITE WHEN NOT IN USE. NUMBER THREE, ANY DEVELOPMENT STRUCTURE OR FENCING SHALL REQUIRE A BUILDING AND ZONING PERMIT. AND NUMBER FOUR, THE APPLICANT SHALL POST THE PROPERTY WITH A LOT PARCEL NUMBER FOR FIRE AND EMERGENCY RESCUE SERVICES AND HAVE AN EMERGENCY EGRESS PLAN FOR REMOVAL OF THE RECREATIONAL VEHICLES AND IF THERE IS AFFORDABLE COMMODE PRIOR TO A PREDICTED FLOOD EVENT. UM, THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? THESE GUYS ARE GREAT. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT I KNOW BUT UH, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IT'S JUST, UM, I FOUND IT ODD SINCE THE BEGINNING THAT IT'S CALLED PERSONAL USE CAMPING BECAUSE THAT'S THE USE PERMIT TITLE, BUT WE DON'T PLAN ON PUTTING A TRAILER THERE OR USING IT FOR CAMPING. IT'S JUST GONNA BE PERSONAL USE. WE HAVE A, A HOME, A FEW HUNDRED YARDS DOWN THE AVALON DRIVE, SO THIS IS JUST FOR RECREATIONAL USE SPORTS, UH, BOAT TRAILER OCCASIONALLY, STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT APPRECIATE YOUR HELP. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YEAH, UH, MADAM CHAIR, I JUST WANTED TO FIND, SO IS, ARE THE TWO PROPERTIES, ARE THEY CO-LOCATED WITH EACH OTHER OR MY PROPERTY? UH, I HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, UH, ON THE RIVERSIDE OF AVALON FACING THE RIVER. UH, AND IT'S ABOUT, I DUNNO, 500 YARDS AWAY. ABOUT 1500 FEET. YEAH. AND THIS IS, UM, DOWN RIVER. OKAY. ON THE, UH, OPPOSITE SIDE OF AVALON. OKAY. AND IT'S REALLY, IT'S ABOUT THE SIZE OF THIS ROOF. UM, AND ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS WAS MOVING IN NORTH CAROLINA AND ASKED IF WE WANTED TO BUY IT. SO WE BOUGHT IT AND SINCE THEN HAVE CLEANED IT UP, TAKEN A TRAILER OF JUNK OUT, YOU KNOW, PRETI IT UP. IT'S REAL NICE. UM, BUT IF THEY'RE NOT TOGETHER, SO, SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU JUST WANT TO USE IT IS KIND OF LIKE A, OH UH, NOT REALLY FOR CAMPING BUT FOR JUST UH, YOU KNOW, GOING DOWN, MAYBE PLAYING SOME FOOTBALL, UH, PUTTING A, A BOAT THERE, HAVING A, A LITTLE UH, STORAGE PLACE WHERE YOU CAN PUT THE ODDS AND ENDS THINGS. MAYBE MAYBE STORAGE. OKAY. UM, UM, CHASE SAYS IT'S ALLOWED IF WE GET THE SPECIAL VARIANCE. OKAY. 'CAUSE IT'S FLOOD. ALRIGHT. BUT WE'LL SEE. ALRIGHT. UM, REALLY WE'VE GOT A NICE PLACE UP THERE ON THE RIVER. I MEAN WE TAKE GOOD CARE OF IT. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER KIND OF SOMETHING TO TAKE CARE OF . UM, AND WHEN WE HAVE A LOT OF EXTRA PEOPLE AT THE HOUSE ON THE RIVER, PUT THE LAWNMOWER DOWN THERE, PUT THE BOAT TRAILER DOWN THERE, LET THE GIRLS PLAY VOLLEYBALL, STUFF LIKE THAT. YOU COULD PUT SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE DOWN THERE TOO. . YEAH, WE DID SIT DOWN THERE ONE DAY JUST FOR FUN. THAT'S IT. THAT'S GREAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OH THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. HENDERSON, DID ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK? NO MA'AM. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? SECOND CALL. LAST AND FINAL CALL. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST OF DOUG DOUGLAS SALZMAN FOR PRIVATE USE. CAMPING WITH THE CONDITIONS IS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF. SECOND. SECOND. ROLL CALL PLEASE. MR. MAYB. AYE. MRS. OATS? AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE MRS. SCHOLARS? AYE. MR. BUTLER? AYE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . YOU TOO. NEXT ITEM [H. CUP2023-09-02 - Fox & Slate Investments, LLC - Chase Lenz ] IS CUP 2023 DASH OH NINE DASH OH TWO WHICH IS FOX AND SLATE INVESTMENTS. LLC. MR. LINZ, THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL FOR THE PROPERTY THEY PURCHASED IN MAY OF THIS YEAR. THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THEIR PROPERTY AVAILABLE [00:45:01] FOR SHORT-TERM LODGING FOR VISITORS SEEKING TO ENJOY WARREN COUNTY'S MANY OFFERINGS WITH EXPERIENCE MANAGING PROPERTIES IN PENNSYLVANIA. THE APPLICANT WILL MANAGE THE PROPERTY PERSONALLY WITH ASSISTANCE FROM A LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER AND LOCAL PROFESSIONAL SERVICE FOR CLEANING. UH, PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE SHENANDOAH FARMS SUBDIVISION. IT IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL ONE. UH, THERE IS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT OPERATION PERMIT ALLOWING A MAXIMUM OF FOUR OCCUPANTS FOR THE DWELLING AND THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED THEIR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN. UH, THE DWELLING ALSO DOES MEET THE MINIMUM SETBACK REQUIRED FROM ALL NEIGHBORING RESIDENCES. THE NEAREST DWELLING IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 295 FEET TO THE NORTH AND I WILL GO AHEAD AND READ THROUGH THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS FOR THIS. UH, FIRST SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL APPLICATION FOR THE SUBSEQUENT UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR UH, TODAY FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTALS. I WILL JUST LET YOU KNOW WHAT'S DIFFERENT, LET YOU KNOW AND IT'S STANDARD. UM, SO CONDITION NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND VIRGINIA STATEWIDE FIRE PREVENTION CODE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS. NUMBER TWO, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS SHALL NOT EXCEED THE SYSTEM CAPACITY AS DETERMINED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT PERMIT PER WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTION 180 DASH 56.4 B. THE CERTIFICATE OF ZONING SHALL ONLY BE ISSUED WITH APPROVED HEALTH DEPARTMENT RECORDS. NUMBER THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE WELL WATER TESTED ANNUALLY FOR E COLI AND COLIFORM BACTERIA AND A COPY OF THE RESULTS SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING AND HEALTH DEPARTMENTS. NUMBER FOUR, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE SEPTIC SYSTEM INSPECTED ANNUALLY BY A STATE LICENSED INSPECTOR AND A COPY OF THE RESULTS SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING AND HEALTH DEPARTMENTS. THE SYSTEM SHALL ALSO BE SERVICED EVERY FIVE YEARS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND A COPY OF THE SERVICE INVOICE SHALL BE PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. NUMBER FIVE, THE DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS AND HUNTING ON THE PROPERTY BY GUESTS SHALL BE PROHIBITED. NUMBER SIX, THE USE OF TERRAIN VEHICLES BY GUESTS ON THE PROPERTY AND WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION SHALL BE PROHIBITED. AND NUMBER SEVEN, OUTDOOR BURNING AND THE USE OF FIREWORKS BY GUESTS SHALL BE PROHIBITED. UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AND THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED AND ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED. I'M ACTUALLY NOT SURE IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE NEGATIVE. NO. UM, BUT I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. SO DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. LENTZ? I DO. UM, YOU SAID THERE WAS A LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PERSON. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING OTHER IN THE UM, MANAGEMENT PLAN THAN THE SLATE AND BOX AND SLATER VERSUS VICE VERSA. YEAH, SO THE APPLICANTS ARE OBVIOUSLY THE LLC, UM, BUT THEIR INDIVIDUAL NAMES LISTED IN THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN ARE STEVE SLATE AND JAMES FOX. THEY DO LIST JAKE FOX, MAYBE JAMES FOX'S BROTHER OR SOMETHING. UH, DOES LIVE LOCALLY IN FRONT ROYAL. OKAY. AND THEY WILL SERVE AS THE EMERGENCY CONTACT AND LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS MR. HENDERSON? DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? NO MA'AM. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK? SECOND CALL. OH, HELLO, MY NAME IS MATT WILLIAMS. I'M AT ONE 15 LONESOME FLATS ROAD IN FRONT ROYAL. UM, WE WILL AMEND THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN, UM, WITH MY CONTACT INFORMATION. I OWN AND MANAGE SEVERAL SHORT-TERM UH, RENTAL PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. UM, AND I ACTUALLY RAN INTO STEVE WHILE I WAS HERE, UM, DOING THE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR ANOTHER ONE AND HE WAS DOING THE SAME. UM, AND SO I HAVE TOURED THE PROPERTY AND WILL BE MANAGING IT FOR HIM AS A LOCAL POINT OF CONTACT AND ALL OF THE OTHER SERVICES FOR THE PROPERTY. OKAY, THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK? SECOND CALL. LAST AND FINAL CALL. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST OF FOX AND SLATE INVESTMENTS, LLC FOR SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE. MR. BUTLER? AYE. MRS. S AYE MADAM CHAIR? AYE. MRS. OATS? AYE. MR. MAID? AYE. THANK YOU. [I. CUP2023-09-03 - Adam Graziano for a short-term tourist rental - Chase Lenz] NEXT ITEM IS CP 2023 DASH OH NINE DASH OH THREE. ADAM GR GNO FOR A SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL. MR. LINZ GRACIANO GRACIANO. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU GRACIANO. THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM TOURIST SHUTTLE FOR THE PROPERTY [00:50:01] HE PURCHASED IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR. THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE HIS PROPERTY AVAILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM LODGING FOR VISITORS OF THE WARREN COUNTY AREA WHEN HE AND HIS WIFE ARE NOT OCCUPYING IT WITH EXPERIENCE MANAGING MULTIPLE RENTAL PROPERTIES IN VIRGINIA. THE APPLICANT WILL MANAGE THE PROPERTY PERSONALLY WITH ASSISTANCE FROM AN EXPERIENCED LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER. UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED OFF IN THE JUNE WOOD ESTATES SUBDIVISION OF SIX 19 AND UM, I WILL JUST NOTE THAT THERE ARE CURRENTLY TWO ACTIVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTALS IN THE JUNE WOOD ESTATE SUBDIVISION. UH, FOR THIS DWELLING THERE IS A CONDITIONAL PERMIT WHICH ALLOWS A MAXIMUM OF FIVE OCCUPANTS AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED THEIR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER TO THE 100 FOOT SETBACK REGULATION AS THE DWELLING UM, TO THE EAST IS LOCATED 94 FEET FROM THE DWELLING ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE APPLICANT HAS HOWEVER, SUBMITTED A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBOR WITHIN THE 100 FOOT SETBACK AND SO IT IS A STANDARD CONDITIONS WE'RE RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS RECOMMENDING UH, WITH CONDITION NUMBER EIGHT. SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO WAIVE THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT, IT READS A WAIVER TO THE REQUIRED SETBACK OF 100 FEET. NEIGHBORING DWELLING SHALL BE GRANTED FOR THE EXISTING 94 FOOT SETBACK TO THE DWELLING EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. HIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED. ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK? HELLO, I'M ADAM GRAZIANO. I'M AT 40 SUNSET VILLAGE ROAD. UH, JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. MM-HMM. ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS? OH, PERFECT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR APPLICANT? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. OH, NO WORRIES. MR. HENDERSON, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? NO MA'AM. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? SECOND CALL. FINAL CALL. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUESTED BY ADAM GRACIANO FOR A SHORT-TERM TOUR RENTAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE. MR. MAY AYE. MRS. OS? AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. MR. S AYE. MR. BUTLER? AYE. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM [J. CUP2023-09-04 - Richard & Jennifer Jamieson for a guesthouse - Matt Wendling ] IS CUP 2023 DASH OH NINE DASH OH FOUR WITH RICHARD AND JENNIFER JAMESON FOR A GUEST HOUSE. MR. WINDLEY? UH, YES. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A GUEST HOUSE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT ZERO KNOCK LANE IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 10 P SECTION FOUR PARCEL 18. IT'S LOCATED IN THE NORTH RIVER DISTRICT IN THE GAFFEY ESTATES. UH, AT LAKE JOHN SUBDIVISION PROPERTY IS A SMALL, UH, UH, LOCATED PARTIALLY IN A PLEDGE ZONE, A WITH 1% ANNUAL CHANCE OF FLOODING. THE REST OF THE LOT IS LOCATED IN NON FLOOD ZONE. UH, IT'S ADJACENT TO LAKE JOHN. UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING THIS IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A COMBINATION OF GARAGE AND GUEST HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY. UH, THEIR TIMING, UH, PLANS HAVE CHANGED SOMEWHAT, UH, AS RECENTLY EXPRESSED TO ME BY MR. JAMESON, UH, IN REGARD TO WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THAT. BUT, UM, ULTIMATELY THEY'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT SECOND DWELLING AS A GUEST HOUSE. UM, THIS GUEST HOUSE WOULD BE USED AT FOR, UH, FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND, AND ALSO AS A GARAGE ON THE PROPERTY. UH, AND THEY STATED THEY WILL NOT USE IT FOR COMMERCIAL PRO UH, PURPOSES. UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MOVED THIS, UH, FORWARD WITH UNANIMOUS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. UH, NUMBER ONE, THE GUEST HOUSE MAY BE USED FOR A FULL OC FULL-TIME OCCUPANCY UNTIL A SECOND DWELLING HAS BEEN ISSUED A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. NUMBER TWO, THE GUEST HOUSE MAY ONLY BE USED FOR PART-TIME OCCUPANCY UP TO SIX MONTHS PER YEAR AFTER, AFTER THE SECOND DWELLING HAS BEEN ISSUED A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. NUMBER THREE. THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT SHALL NOT BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL RENTAL OR LEASING OF ROOMS FOR COMPENSATION OF ANY KIND, INCLUDING AS A SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL. NUMBER FOUR, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS, WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT REGULATIONS INCLUDING BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR SMOKE AND FIRE DETECTOR SYSTEM AND CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTORS. NUMBER FIVE, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE A CONDITION PLACED ON THE DEEDED AT THE TIME OF TRANSFER OF THE PROPERTY TO A NEW OWNER THAT THE RENTAL OR LEASING OF THE GUEST HOUSE FOR MONETARY COMPENSATION IS PROHIBITED AND THAT [00:55:01] IT IS LIMITED TO PART-TIME OCCUPANCY UP TO SIX MONTHS PER YEAR FOR THE DWELLING DESIGNATED AS THE GUEST HOUSE AFTER THE SECOND DWELLING HAS BEEN ISSUED A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. AND NUMBER SIX, THE PROPERTY OWNER SHALL MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF COUNTY CODE SECTION 180 16 FLOODPLAIN OVERLAY DISTRICT DAM DAM BREAK INUNDATION ZONES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PRINCIPAL AND SECONDARY DWELLINGS AND ANY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF OF THAT DISTRICT. UH, THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED AND MR. JAMESON IS HERE IF YOU'D LIKE TO ASK HIM ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY ALSO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. IS THE APPLICANT HERE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? ONLY IF YOU WANT ME TO. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR APPLICANT? NO. THANK YOU MR. HENDERSON, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO MA'AM. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? SECOND CALL. FINAL CALL. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST OF RICHARD AND JENNIFER JAMESON FOR A GUEST HOUSE WITH CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF. SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE MR. BUTLER. AYE. MRS. CALLERS? AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. MRS. OS? AYE. MR. MADDEN? AYE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [K. CUP2023-09-05 - Vesta Property Management (Sergio L. Herrera) - Chase Lenz] NEXT ITEM IS CUP 2023 DASH OH NINE DASH OH FIVE FOR VESTA PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, UM, FOR SERGIO HERRERA. MR. LINZ. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. THE APPLICANT, VESTA PROPERTY MANAGEMENT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER SERGIO HERRERA, WHO PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN AUGUST OF 2022. THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THEIR PROPERTY AVAILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM LODGING FOR VISITORS OF THE WARREN COUNTY AREA AS A LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY SERVING THE FRONT ROW WARREN COUNTY AREA AND WITH TWO APPROVED ADDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTALS OPERATING IN THE COUNTY. THE APPLICANT WILL MANAGE THE PROPERTY ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER. UH, PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE SHENANDOAH FARMS SUBDIVISION. RIVERVIEW SECTION IS LOCATED IN THE HIGH RISK FLOOD ZONE, THAT'S WHY IT'S ELEVATED. UM, AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY PREVIOUS, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS ISSUED FOR THE PROPERTY. THERE IS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT PERMIT ALLOWING A MAXIMUM OF SIX OCCUPANTS FOR THE DWELLING. THEY HAVE PROVIDED A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THE DWELLING DOES MEET THE 100 FOOT SETBACK FROM NEIGHBORING DWELLINGS. THE NEAREST DWELLING IS LOCATED 158 FEET TO THE NORTH. UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AND THE, UH, THEY'RE RECOMMENDING THE STANDARD CONDITIONS, UH, FOR A SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL. UH, THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED AND THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY HAS A REPRESENTATIVE HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. DOES THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT REPRESENTATIVE, REPRESENTATIVE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? HI, JUST WANNA INTRODUCE MYSELF. MY NAME'S MANDY. UM, I'M WILL BE THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT FOR THE PROPERTY. UM, AND WE'RE JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY HAS ANY. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT? NO QUESTIONS. MR. HENDERSON, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO, MA'AM. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK? SECOND CALL. FINAL CALL. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST OF VISTA PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. SERGIO HERRERA WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RE RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE. MR. MAY AYE. MRS. OATS? AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. MRS. S AYE. MR. BUTLER? AYE. THANK YOU. NEXT [L. CUP2023-09-06 - Vesta Property Management (John C. & Johanna R. Villalobos) - Chase Lenz] ITEM IS CUP 2023 DASH OH NINE DASH OH SIX FOR, UH, VESTA PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. IN BEHALF OF JOHN C AND JOHANNA, OH BOY. HERE WE GO. . IS THAT HOW YOU PRONOUNCE THAT? PRETTY CLOSE . MR. MR. LINZ? THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. THE APPLICANT, VESTA PROPERTY MANAGEMENT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL ON BEHALF OF THE OWNERS, JOHN AND JOHANNA VIA LOBOS, WHO PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR. THE OWNERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THEIR PROPERTY AVAILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM LODGING FOR VISITORS OF THE WARREN COUNTY AREA AS A LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY SERVING THE FRONT ROYAL WARREN COUNTY AREA AND WITH TWO APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTALS OPERATING IN THE COUNTY. THE APPLICANT WILL MANAGE THE PROPERTY ON BEHALF OF THE OWNERS. UM, THIS IS ALSO LOCATED IN THE RIVERVIEW SECTION OF THE SHENANDOAH FARM SUBDIVISION FAR ABOVE THE FLOODPLAIN IN THIS CASE. UM, AND THE [01:00:01] DWELLING IS LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY OF FOUR OCCUPANTS BY THEIR HEALTH DEPARTMENT PERMIT. AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER TO THE 100 FOOT SETBACK REGULATION AS THE DWELLING DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIRED 100 FOOT SETBACK. UH, THE DWELLING ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED TO THE WEST IS 62 FEET FROM THE DWELLING ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. IT WAS, UH, UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION REFERENCING THE, UH, SETBACK, UM, AS THE REASON FOR DENIAL THE UH, DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING. THE NEIGHBOR DID, UH, SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO, UH, THIS APPLICATION AND THEY HAVE SUBSEQUENTLY SUBMITTED A LETTER THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKETS. UM, OTHER THAN THAT, IT IS THE RECOMMEND STANDARD, RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS, UH, WITH CONDITION NUMBER EIGHT, SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO WAIVE THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT. SO A WAIVER TO THE REQUIRED SETBACK OF 100 FEET TO NEIGHBORING DWELLING SHALL BE GRANTED FOR THE EXISTING 62 FOOT SETBACK TO THE DWELLING WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. UH, THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED. JASON, PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED AND THE UH, PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT? NO QUESTIONS. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS UH, FOR MR. LZ? NO. MR. HENDERSON, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? UH, NO MA'AM. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK? HI, MY NAME IS ANNA HADLEY. I'M GONNA MOVE INTO THE WEST. YEAH, IF YOU COULD JUST SPEAK INTO THE MIC AND YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS IF YOU DON'T MIND. MY NAME IS ANNA HADLEY. I'M THE NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST AT 2 2 5. GARY LANE. UM, I'M ASKING THAT YOU DENY THIS BECAUSE OF THE SETBACK AND THERE ARE A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT I MENTIONED IN MY, MY EMAIL. UM, SO YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE PHOTOS THAT THEY HAVE A RESTED CHINEYA ALONG WITH A COVERED FIREWOOD SOURCE. AND THEN I THINK THAT GOES AGAINST THE CODE FOR NOT HAVING ANY, UM, SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. NOT HAVING ANY, UM, FIRES IN THE LOCATION. UM, AND THEN THEY ALSO FAILED TO PUT UP THE WHITE FLAGS TO MARK THE PROPERTY LINES AGAINST THE R TWO LOTS. UM, AND THEN IN THEIR APPLICATION THEY SAID THAT THERE WAS ONLY GOING TO BE A NORMAL FRONT DOOR LIGHT. THAT'S NOT CORRECT. IN THE BACK THERE IS A FLOODLIGHT THAT LIGHTS UP THEIR BACKYARD AND MY BACKYARD. I CAN SEE IT THROUGH MY WINDOW AND THEY HAVE, UM, JUST NORMAL LIKE STRING LIGHTS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COUNTS. UM, SO FOR THESE THREE REASONS I'M ASKING THAT YOU DENY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WOULD THE MANAGEMENT REPRESENTATIVE DID LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT? FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU. 'CAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND THE SETBACK REGULATIONS. WE'RE VERY AWARE OF THOSE. UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT THE PEOPLE WHO PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY ARE LOCALS. THEY WERE BORN AND RAISED HERE. UM, I THINK THAT WE'RE ALL AWARE THAT WARREN COUNTY REALLY PUSHES TOURISM RIGHT NOW. THEY DO CAMPAIGNS FOR THIS. SO IN THE MIND OF THESE FOLKS, THEY WERE SIMPLY GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THAT RAISED THEM BY DOING WHAT WAS BEING ADVERTISED, UM, OR RECOMMENDED OR REQUESTED IN THE AREA. UM, THEY HAVE PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO THIS PROPERTY, UM, TO TRY TO MAKE IT FANCY FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL. UM, I THINK THE FEAR SOMETIMES WITH BEES IS THAT IT'S A PARTY HOUSE AND IT'S NOT. THAT'S WHY THEY HIRE A PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT COMPANY TO DO THAT FOR THEM. UM, THEY HAVE HIRED LOCAL CONTRACTORS, THEY HAVE GIVEN BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND I'M SO SURE THAT THEY HAVE ADDED TO THE PROPERTY VALUE OF THE OWNERS AROUND THEM. UM, SO WITH THAT BEING CONSIDERED, I WOULD JUST LIKE THE BOARD TO CONSIDER. IT'S LITERALLY 30 FEET. UM, AND I DO KNOW THAT R ONE IS ALREADY UNDER REVISION, POTENTIALLY. UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO TRACK THAT. SO WE WILL BE REAPPLYING IF THAT EVER HAPPENS AND WE'LL BE MAKING IT A SHORT TERM. UM, 'CAUSE WE JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE THE LOCALS WHO ARE TRYING TO GIVE BACK, LOSE OUT ON THE INVESTMENT THAT THEY MADE. UM, SO WE WOULD JUST LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IN APPROVING AND OR DENYING THIS. UM, BUT WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME EITHER WAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. , DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE. MR. HENDERSON, HAS ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? I THINK I ALREADY ASKED THAT QUESTION, RIGHT? NO ONE SIGNED UP. SO NOW WE'RE, I'M ASKING AGAIN, IS ANYBODY AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? SECOND CALL. FINAL CALL. [01:05:01] PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. DO WE HAVE, UM, A MOTION? I MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DENY THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR VISTA PROPERTIES MANAGEMENT OF JOHN SEED AND JOHANNA ILLA. LOBOS THERE SECOND. SECOND. ROLL CALL MR. BUTLER. AYE. MRS. COLORS? AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. MRS. OATES? AYE. MR. MAY NO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SAY AYE. OKAY. AYE EVERYBODY'S SAYING THE SAME THING. ALRIGHT, GOOD. I WAS, I WAS KIND OF CONFUSED THERE BECAUSE YOU BROUGHT UP THE MOTION AND THEN SAID NO. WELL, SORRY. OKAY. . OKAY. ARE WE READY TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM? SURE. OKAY. UM, [M. Proposed Lease Agreement - Warren County Community Health Coalition - Tiffany Walker] OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE, UH, PROPOSED LEASE AGREEMENT FOR THE WARREN COUNTY COMMUNITY HEALTH COALITION. TIFFANY WALKER. I WE'RE ACTUALLY ASKING TO DELAY THIS ITEM 'CAUSE WE'RE REVISING THE LEASE IN ORDER TO UPDATE IT. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE THE PUBLIC HEARING. VERY, VERY GOOD. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS? UM, LEASE. SO MOVED. MADAM CHAIR. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ROLL CALL PLEASE. MR. BUTLER? AYE. MRS. CALLERS? AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. MRS. OATS? AYE. MR. MAY. AYE. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM IS [N. Warren County Parks and Recreation Lease Agreements - Front Royal Little League use of Champs 53 Field Complex - Tiffany Walker] THE WARREN COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION LEASE AGREEMENTS FOR THE FRONT ROYAL LITTLE LEAGUE USE OF CHAMPS 53 FIELD COMPLEX. THIS IS A HISTORICAL LEASE. IT HAS ACTUALLY EXPIRED. UM, WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF REVISING ALL LEASES, INCLUDING THIS COMING YEAR'S LEASE FOR THIS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS, UM, COMPETITIVE AND THAT WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE CONSISTENT LEASES FOR ALL, UM, ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE UTILIZING OUR FACILITIES. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ACTUALLY HOW THE KAREN IS NOW OPEN . SO DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE. THE ONLY THING I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THIS IS JUST A RETROACTIVE APPROVAL, CORRECT? CORRECT. I MEAN EVERYTHING HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED AND SO WE'RE JUST I CATCHING UP? CORRECT. OKAY. VERY. SO, SO I I DO HAVE A QUESTION. MM-HMM. BECAUSE I, I WAS CONFUSED BECAUSE IT'S ONLY FOR THE FALL SEASON THIS PAST FALL THAT WE'RE NAIL PAST. OKAY. SO THEY'RE . SO THEIR LEASE HAS TERMINATED. EXPIRED. MM-HMM. WE'RE THE THEY ARE AND WE ARE CRAFTING NEW ONES. MM-HMM. . OKAY. AND WE'RE CHARGING THEM $940 AND THEY PAY THAT IN TWO PAYMENTS AND IT'S JUST TO UM, I GUESS SETTLE UP CORRECT. FOR WHERE WE ARE. OKAY. MM-HMM. . ANY OTHER? I WAS CONFUSED. WE'RE TY TRYING TO TIE UP SOME LOOSE ENDS. UM, WITH THE OLD LEASES AS THEY EXPIRE, UM, WE WILL BE MUCH MORE TIMELY AND MAKING SURE THEY'RE ON THE AGENDA PRIOR TO ACTUALLY TAKING EFFECT. MM-HMM. DR. DALEY, UH, FOR THE BOARD'S, UH, EDIFICATION WHEN, UM, MRS. JORDAN LEFT AND WENT TO FREDERICK COUNTY SCHOOLS, ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT, UM, KAITLYN SHELTON HAS TAKEN ON IS UPDATING ALL OF OUR LEASE LEASE AGREEMENTS. AND WE HAVE A WHOLE VARIETY, WHICH WE'VE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT ALL THESE LEASES AND WHAT'S PAID WHEN AND SO FORTH. AND SHE'S GOING THROUGH ALL OF THOSE, FINDING SOME OF THOSE THAT MAY BE IN ARREARS AND SO FORTH. SO IF, IF YOU GET CALLS, IT'S BECAUSE WE SENT THEM A NOTICE THAT THEY NEED TO BRING THE LEASE UP TO DATE AND MAKING THEM ALL UNIFORM AND PUTTING A CHARGE. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF LEASES SUCH AS THE ONE YOU JUST TABLED THAT WE DON'T CHARGE FOR. SO THEREFORE WE DON'T HAVE A COMPARABLE COST. SO WE ARE HAVE HAD MR. PETTY LOOKING AT TO FIND OUT THE PROPER COST FOR THE LEASE AND WE ARE ADDING THAT IN AND THEN WE WILL NET THAT BACK FOR SO THAT THERE'S NO PENALTY OR ANYTHING, BUT IT WILL BE ABLE TO SHOW WHAT THE COMPARABLE [01:10:01] RATE SHOULD BE FOR EACH OF OUR PROPERTIES. SHE'S WORKING VERY HARD ON THAT. DOING A GREAT JOB FOR US. YES. YEAH. YES SHE IS. SO WE CURRENTLY DON'T CHARGE THE COALITION CORRECT. FOR ITS USE OF TWO TWO ROOMS OF THE COUNTY PROPERTY . RIGHT. WE VIEW IT AS A DONATION, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN MONETIZED. SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ACTUALLY ATTACHING A COMPARABLE RATE SO THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY, WHEN THEY'RE SUBMITTING FOR GRANT FUNDING, THEY NEED TO PUT IN THAT INFORMATION. UM, SO THIS IS TO BE CONSISTENT AND THEN WE DONATE THAT BACK TO THEM. OKAY. BECAUSE IT HAS, IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION AND SO I THINK THIS MIGHT BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT, IS UM, THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE THAT USES THE FOOTBALL FIELD AT OUR, UM, MIDDLE SCHOOL, OUR OLD MIDDLE SCHOOL. MM-HMM. AND NOW HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES COMPLEX IS, UM, THEY PAY LIKE TO, TO PRACTICE AND TO PLAY. MM-HMM. . AND SO I WONDERED HOW THAT COMPARED TO BASEBALL AND BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S A LARGE SUM FOR THEM. MM-HMM. AND THEY WANT OUR CHILDREN HAVING ACTIVITIES AND OFF THE STREETS. AND SO THEY CAME TO ME AND SAID, CAN YOU HELP US WITH THIS? BECAUSE WE WANT EVERY CHILD WHO WANTS TO PLAY IN WARREN COUNTY TO PLAY AND THAT PLACE IS BOOMING ON SATURDAYS. I COULDN'T BELIEVE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE I WAS THERE FOR EARLY VOTING. AND SO THERE ARE LOTS OF FAMILIES THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE FOOTBALL LEAGUES. MM-HMM. . SO IS THERE A WAY FOR YOU TO PROVIDE TO THE BOARD LIKE A EQUALIZATION , AN EQUALIZATION? I THINK, I THINK WE'VE VISITED THIS LAST YEAR. WE ARE GOING WHERE THEY ADJUSTED CORRECT ME. GO AHEAD DR. DAVE. I'M SORRY. WE ARE GOING THROUGH WHAT THE RECREATION STAFF IS DOING IS EVALUATING ALL OF THE COST OKAY. FOR ALL OF THE FACILITIES. THAT'S GREAT. SO THAT, UH, THEY WERE GOING, THEY WERE GOING TO ASK TO HAVE THE FACILITIES RATES APPROVED FOR NEXT YEAR AND THEY'RE NOT READY TO DO THAT YET BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DONE WITH THE STUDY. AND THEY WILL GIVE THE BOARD A COMPARISON TO SHOW WHAT IT COSTS THE COUNTY TO PROVIDE FIELD A FOR THIS SPORT AND FIELD B FOR THAT SPORT AND WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS AND HOW THE RATES COMPARE SO THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT ALL OF THEM AND SEE WHAT IT IS RELATED TO THE COST WE WANT. UH, WE WANT TO BE SURE EVERYONE CAN PLAY, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO BE SURE THAT THOSE WHO DON'T PLAY DON'T HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE THOSE WHO DO. SO WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING TO LEVEL THAT FOR EVERYBODY THROUGHOUT AND LITTLE LEAGUE AND BIG LEAGUE, ET CETERA. OKAY. SO WE'LL HAVE A WORK SESSION. YES MA'AM. BEFORE THAT COMES FOR A VOTE. YES MA'AM. WELL, THAT'LL BE GOOD BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, I, I LIKEN THIS AND MAYBE THIS IS, I'M SPEAKING JUST FOR MYSELF. I LIKEN THE, THE PART ABOUT, UM, SUBSIDIZING FOR THOSE WHO I LIKEN IT TO OR THE TAXES THAT GO TO SCHOOL JUST 'CAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A CHILD IN SCHOOL, IT'S KIND OF LIKE PAYING IT FORWARD. UM, RIGHT NOW, I, I HAVE GRANDCHILDREN IN SCHOOL, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT NEVER HAVE CHILDREN, NEVER HAVE GRANDCHILDREN. AND I'VE, I'VE HAD IT SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHY MY MONEY'S GOING TO SCHOOLS. I DON'T GET ANY VALUE OUT OF IT, BUT I DO SEE THE VALUE. SOMEBODY EDUCATED ME AND I'M PAYING IT FORWARD BY EDUCATING SOMEONE ELSE. AND I, I FEEL, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'VE GOT MULTIPLE CHILDREN AND IT'S EXPENSIVE, MY GRANDKIDS ARE DOING SPORTS AND BY THE TIME YOU PAY THE FEES AND THEN YOU PAY THE SHOES AND YOU PAY THE OUTFIT, IT, IT DOES LIMIT PEOPLE. AND I MEAN, THAT'S THE ONE THING I'D RATHER SEE THE KIDS PLAYING SPORTS, THEN PLAYING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET OR THROWING ROCKS AT WINDOWS OR EXERCISING THEIR THUMBS ON A VIDEO GAME IN THE HOUSE AND NEVER GETTING OUT AND GETTING FRESH AIR. SO WE'LL HAVE A FULL ANALYSIS FOR YOU TO LOOK AT. THE COST OF THE FACILITY IS ONE OF THE SMALLEST PIECES TO PARTICIPATE IN ADULT AND YOUTH SPORTS RIGHT NOW IN THE COUNTY. UH, BUT YOU'RE GONNA SEE A COMPARISON OF THE DIFFERENT FIELDS IN WHAT IS PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY. MM-HMM. AND HOW, HOW THAT COST RELATES TO OTHER FACILITY COUNTY FACILITIES THAT DON'T HAVE THE SAME PROVISIONS. MM-HMM. . [01:15:01] SO WE'LL HAVE IT ALL AND IT'LL BE A WORK SESSION. YEAH. TAKE A WHILE. AND THEN OF COURSE I WOULD HOPE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ACTUAL COSTS. MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, FOR LIKE THE, THE STADIUM, YOU KNOW? ABSOLUTELY. AND WHEN YOU READ THE LEASE, IT SAYS IT PAYS FOR THE ELECTRICITY, IT PAYS FOR THE BOXES, IT PAYS FOR EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, AND, AND YOU KNOW, JUST SO WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DELTA BETWEEN THE LIGHT, UH, THE LEASE PAYMENT VERSUS WHAT WE PUT OUT. YES. NOW IF WE, IF WE CHOOSE AS, AS THE BOARD TO UM, GIVE RELIEF YES IS IS GREAT, BUT AT LEAST WE KNOW WHAT THE, UM, OVERHEAD COSTS ARE FOR US. THAT WE PLAN FOR IT IN FUTURE BUDGETS. ABSOLUTELY. TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT MONEY AVAILABLE TO COVER, TO OFFSET, YOU KNOW, THE RELIEF THAT WE'RE GIVING TO, UM, THE COMMUNITY TO USE OUR SERVICES, YOU KNOW, SO ANYWAY. SO IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NO, NO. MR. JAMESON WILL HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION. . OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. AND SO, OKAY, NOW I KINDA LOST TRACK. SO MR. HENDERSON, HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO MA'AM. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? SECOND CALL. FINAL CALL. OUR PUBLIC CLEARING IS NOW CLOSED. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THE COUNTY ENTER INTO THE LEASE AGREEMENT DATED OCTOBER 12TH, 2023 WITH THE FRONT WELL LITTLE LEAGUE FOR LEASE OF GERTRUDE E MILLER COMMUNITY PARK CHAMPIONS 53 FIELD COMPLEX. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ROLL CALL PLEASE. MR. MAYB? AYE. MRS. OS? AYE. ADAM CHAIR? AYE. MRS. SCHOLARS? AYE. MR. BUTLER? AYE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT ITEM IS FOR AN ADJOURNMENT. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. THANK YOU EVERYONE HAVE A GOOD EVENING. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. THIS IS MY LAST PUBLIC HEARING. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.