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EVENING EVERYONE,

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AND WELCOME TO THE FIRST BUDGET SESSION OF 2024.

AND FIRST ON OUR AGENDA IS, UM, ACCESS INDEPENDENCE BALL.

[A. 6:00 - 6:20 PM - Access Independence]

WELCOME, LIKE THE FOOTBALL COACHES, UH, HARBAUGH , UH, CHAIRWOMAN COLORS, MEMBERS OF THE, UH, WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, CHARLES HARBAUGH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ACCESS INDEPENDENCE, UH, MAYOR OF MIDDLETOWN.

I'VE WORKED WITH YOU GUYS A LOT IN THAT CAPACITY.

UH, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU GUYS DO FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I KNOW IT'S A THANKLESS JOB AND THERE'S SOME NEW MEMBERS HERE, SO, UH, WE, WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT.

UM, WE'VE HAD 90% GROWTH IN WARREN COUNTY SINCE I TOOK OVER MAY, 2021 FROM 53 CLIENTS, UM, TO OVER 101 CLIENTS.

AND, UH, WE'VE REALLY GROWN AND IT'S JUST BEEN WONDERFUL.

UM, HE HAD SOME PICTURES UP THERE.

UH, WE CAN SHOW YOU SOME PROJECTS THAT WE DO, UH, HERE IN WARREN COUNTY, UM, THAT IS OVER BY RURAL KING.

UH, DID A RAMP FOR THAT GENTLEMAN THERE.

HE AND THE ELECTRIC, UH, SCOOTER ELECTRIC POWER CHAIR THERE.

THAT'S ABOUT THE $2,000 VALUE.

SO YOU SEE THINGS JUST TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE MAINTAIN INDEPENDENT LIVING AND KEEP THEIR HOME.

UH, THERE'S ANOTHER PROJECT THERE OUTSIDE OF, UH, OFF ALLIANCE ROAD OR RAMP AND A WHEELCHAIR FOR THIS LADY.

AND THEN THERE'S A THIRD PROJECT THERE, AND THAT IS, UH, NEAR, UH, RUSSI JEFFRIES, AND THAT'S A, A 14 FOOT RAMP AND LANDING THERE.

SO YOU GET A, A GLIMPSE OF WHAT WE DO.

UH, WE'VE BEEN AROUND SINCE 1985, SERVING WARREN COUNTY, HELPING PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND VARIOUS, UH, UH, BARRIERS, UH, TO, UH, TO, TO MAINTAINING THEIR HOME AND, AND STAYING IN THEIR HOME.

WE MANAGE 172 PEOPLE'S MONEY, AND THAT'S, UH, ANOTHER KEY PIECE OF IT.

LET'S SAY THAT I'M RICHARD AND I, UH, MY BODY'S FINE, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO PAY MY WATER BILL, MY ELECTRIC BILL, MY NATURAL GAS, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

UM, WE CAN DO THAT TO ALLOW THEM TO LIVE INDEPENDENTLY.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER KEY SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE.

WE'VE DONE A LOT OF, OF TRAINING AND, UM, INDEPENDENT LIVING SKILLS IN WARREN COUNTY, AND, UH, IT'S JUST BEEN A PLEASURE TO SERVE YOU GUYS AS WE'VE HIT THIS 101 THRESHOLD, UH, MARK OVER THE A HUNDRED CLIENT MARK.

SO THAT'S A, A GIST ABOUT ACCESS, INDEPENDENCE AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO.

AND, UH, SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE, UH, HAVE DONE THIS PAST YEAR, WE ANSWERED A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE WHEELCHAIR WALKER, KNEE SCOOTER, BEDSIDE, COMMODE, SHOWER CHAIR REQUESTS IN WARREN COUNTY THIS PAST YEAR.

SO, UH, RAMPS NEARLY A HUNDRED PERCENT.

UH, SOMETIMES SOME THINGS MAYBE THEY DON'T OWN THE HOME AND THE LANDLORD'S NOT OKAY WITH A RAMP OR SO.

I'D LOVE TO TELL YOU THAT, BUT PRETTY CLOSE.

UH, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF GOOD IN YOUR COUNTY.

UH, THE WARREN COUNTY ELEMENTS PROGRAM USES OUR KITCHEN TO, FOR THEIR STUDENTS TO COOK.

UM, SO THE STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES IN WARREN COUNTY, THEY COME TO US, ACCESS INDEPENDENCE IN WINCHESTER, AND THEY LEARN LIFE SKILLS, HOW TO MAKE TACOS, CHEESEBURGERS, COOKIES, COOKIE CHRISTMAS PARTY IN DECEMBER.

SO WE LOVE HAVING THOSE GUYS.

WE HAVE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, FROM WARREN COUNTY, DR.

HEROIN, OTO WILEY.

SHE'S A PROFESSOR AT SHE UNIVERSITY.

SHE'S ON OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

UM, THE BEST THING ABOUT OUR PLACE IN JUST MY LAST PITCH IS THAT, UM, OVER 50% OF OUR STAFF HAVE A DOCUMENTED DISABILITY, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY AT THE 60 TO 70% MARK.

OVER 50% OF MY BOARD OF DIRECTORS HAVE A DOCUMENTED DISABILITY.

WE'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT GRANT FUNDED FOR SALARIES, UH, UTILITIES, VEHICLES, UH, ALL OF THAT.

SO WHEN YOU GUYS GIVE US MONEY, IT GOES STRAIGHT TO THESE PROJECTS HERE.

SO THERE'S NO OVERHEAD, THERE'S NO SALARIES, THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GIVE ME, I REQUESTED $5,000 THIS YEAR, IF YOU GIVE ME $5,000, IT'S GOING RIGHT TO THE PEOPLE THAT REQUEST IT IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

SO, UH, VERY PRIVILEGED AND HONORED TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS.

AND, AND THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO SPEAK.

AND IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER YOU EACH THAT YOU WORK IN.

DO YOU EARMARK THAT SPECIFICALLY OR JUST YOU RUN OVER 5,000 PROJECT CUT OFF? NO, NO, NO, NO.

I, I, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP.

IF, IF I SPEND $17,000 IN WARREN COUNTY, WHATEVER IT COSTS, WE'LL DO IT.

UM, I'M JUST ASKING FOR AN INCREASE BECAUSE WE'VE GROWN 90% IN WARREN COUNTY AND I'M ANTICIPATING MORE GROWTH.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A GROWING POPULATION.

THERE'S NEW HOMES, UH, THERE'S NEW FOLKS, THERE'S NEW OUTREACH IN WARREN COUNTY THAT WE'RE REACHING OUT TO.

WE HAVE GREAT PARTNERS, UH, IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

SO, UH, I'M ANTICIPATING BEING HERE NEXT YEAR AND SAYING, WE SERVED 130 PEOPLE IN WARREN.

UM, SO OBVIOUSLY A NEED HERE.

SO, UH, UH,

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THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS, I'M NOT GONNA TURN DOWN SOMEBODY JUST 'CAUSE I'M OVER THE 5,000 LIMIT QUESTION, AND I WAS ASKED THIS RECENTLY, DO YOU DO ANYTHING FOR BATHROOM? UH, WALK IN OR SHOWER? WE DO GRAB BARS, SHOWER HANDLES, BATHROOM FULL MODIFICATIONS ARE A BRIDGE TOO FAR FOR, FOR, FOR MY LITTLE NON-PROFIT.

BUT I DO HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT GIVES PREFERRED PRICING TO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, UH, IN OUR REGION.

HIS NAME'S WALKER TYLER PRECISION CARPENTRY.

HE DID A BATHROOM RE MODIFICATION RECENTLY, UH, FOR A WHEELCHAIR USER IN STEVEN CITY.

UM, AND I GAVE HIS NUMBER OUT TODAY.

SO WE HAVE PREFERRED RELATIONSHIPS WITH CONTRACTORS, UH, THAT DO THAT TYPE OF WORK, BUT IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE MUCH FOR US.

I, UH, UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION YEAH.

HOW DO YOUR CLIENTS FIND YOU? UM, AND IF, IF I NEED A BEDSIDE COMMODE OR A RAMP AND I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, NOT WELL CONNECTED, HOW WOULD I FIND YOU? AND, UH, DOES OUR DSS HAVE REFERRALS TO YOU? YES, SIR.

THAT'S CORRECT.

YES.

SO WE WORK WITH THEM.

SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION, UH, DARS MAINLY IS OUR, IS OUR REFERRAL SOURCE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO IN CHAMBERS AND, UH, WE, WE COME TO EVENTS AND WE DO NETWORKING.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE A HEART OF HEARING CENTER, SO IF YOU GUYS EVER NEED AN INTERPRETER, UH, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT SERVICE.

SHE LOVES TO DO THAT, MAKE PRESENTATIONS.

UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF COOL THINGS THAT WE COULD DO LIKE THAT.

BUT, BUT THAT'S HOW THEY FIND US AND, UM, THEY'RE FINDING US SOMEHOW BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH, YOU KNOW? OKAY.

AND THEN THE 90% GROWTH IN WARREN, IS THAT 2023 NUMBERS VERSUS 2022? THAT'S SINCE I STARTED, EXCUSE ME, BUT LAST YEAR, 87 TO 1 0 1, 2 YEARS AGO.

50, UH, 53 I THINK IS THE NUMBER.

OKAY.

UM, TO 87, SO, OKAY.

UH, TWO YEARS.

SO SIGNIFICANT GROWTH HERE.

AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S TRIGGERING IT, BUT MAYBE IT'S THE MARKETING OR THE OUTREACH OR, YOU KNOW.

THANK YOU.

I JUST HAVE WHAT, OH, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK ABOUT YOUR QUESTION.

OH, , I'M LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW, AND I SEE THAT FOR FISCAL YEAR, UH, 23 AND 24, 25, THAT YOUR REVENUE IS LESS THAN YOUR EXPENDITURES.

AND SO HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU MAKE UP THAT GAP? WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ENDOWMENT, UM, WITH SIGNIFICANT ENDOWMENT.

YOU MEAN LIKE AN INVESTMENT ACCOUNT YOU HAVE? YES.

WE, WE HAD IN YOUR BEDROOM.

WE OWNED A HOME AT ONE TIME, A GROUP HOME.

UH, WE SOLD THE HOME.

SO WE HAVE AN ENDOWMENT THAT PROTECTS US FOR, FOR DIFFERENT EXPENSES LIKE THAT.

UM, SO MAYBE THAT'S AN INVESTMENT LOSS.

YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WAS A BAD YEAR FOR SOME THINGS.

SO, UM, BUT THAT, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THERE.

SO IT'S, IT'S, WE'RE NOT, SO, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LIVING, YOU KNOW, PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK, I GUESS IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING AT ACCESS INDEPENDENCE, BUT FOR THE EXTRA PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING AND THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, WE COULD, WE COULD DO MORE.

SO THAT, THAT, THAT EXTRA MONEY IS, UM, CASH.

IT'S CASH FLOW.

YOU CAN DIP INTO IT ANYTIME YOU WANNA.

YES.

OR IF WE NEED A NEW VEHICLE TO SERVE, YOU KNOW, PAGE OR, OR ENTER SOME OF THESE FOUR THINGS, WE CAN YEAH.

BECAUSE I SAW IN YOUR BUDGET, UM, AUDIT YOUR AUDIT REPORT.

IT SAID SOMETHING YOU WERE HOLDING $585,000 FOR OTHERS.

WELL, THAT'S OUR REP PAYEE PROGRAM.

OKAY.

OTHERS, EXCUSE ME.

YES.

THAT'S THE 172 PEOPLE'S MONEY.

OKAY.

SO LET'S SAY THAT I'M VICKY AND MY PARENTS PASS AWAY AND THEY LEAVE YOU BLANK.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY.

SO HOLDING MONEY FOR OTHERS IS THAT, THAT'S THE 172 PEOPLE'S MONEY.

OKAY.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT WHAT, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? OKAY.

WHERE, WHERE YOU'RE MANAGING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY FOR THEIR OWN GOOD.

YES.

THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION, WE'RE THE REP PAYEE FOR THEM.

THEY CAN'T DO THAT.

REP REPRESENTATIVE PAYEE.

OKAY.

SO THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION AND A DOCTOR WOULD HAVE TO SAY, HEY RICHARD, YOU'RE NOT CAPABLE OF MANAGING YOUR MONEY.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO APPOINT YOU A STATE APPOINTED REP, PAYEE, ACCESS, INDEPENDENCE.

AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT FOLKS THAT ARE FAIRLY WELL TO DO IN THAT PROGRAM.

YOU KNOW, THEIR PARENTS LEAVE THEM A, A SIGNIFICANT CHUNK OF CHANGE OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, PAY THEIR RENT AND YOU PAY THEIR, WHATEVER, UTILITIES, WHATEVER.

YOU JUST HELP THEM MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

YES.

INCLUDING BEING REASONABLE, I GUESS.

I MEAN, YOU'RE A STEWARD.

I MEAN, YES.

OKAY.

YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE, I WANT A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THIS.

I WANT TO GO BUY, UH, AROUND THE WORLD TRIP FOR, FOR 500,000 BUCKS OR WHATEVER.

I MEAN, YOU'RE A STEWARD OF THEM, RIGHT? A FIDUCIARY, IS THAT

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YES.

YEAH.

OKAY.

DO YOU HELP THEM WITH JUDGMENT? BASICALLY, YES.

WE TELL SOME PEOPLE NO, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

SO, , SO IS THERE, IS THERE A FEE THAT YOU CHARGE FOR THAT OR A FEE THAT THE GOVERNMENT SAYS THAT? $47 A MONTH.

OKAY.

47.

AND IS THAT BY THE GOVERNMENT OR IS THAT BY THE INDIVIDUAL? UH, THAT'S THE RATE SET BY DSS.

OKAY.

AND, AND THEN THAT'S THE HUNDRED 40 OF A HUNDRED, YOU SAID THERE WAS 174 PEOPLE.

172 PEOPLE'S MONEY.

WE MANAGE CURRENTLY.

THAT PROGRAM'S REALLY GROWN A LOT TOO.

OKAY.

SO BASED ON YOUR CURRENT ASSETS THEN, SO LIKE YOU HAVE THIS INVESTMENT ACCOUNT FOR 450 2K.

YES.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

THAT'S MY ENDOWMENT.

THAT'S YOUR OKAY.

ENDOWMENT ALL EDWARD, EDWARD JONES'.

ALRIGHT.

WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? HOW YOU DO THAT, ? THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTION? HMM? UH, I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU'D BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.

I'M NOT TRYING TO PRY ANYTHING, BUT YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS A, THAT, UH, MOST OF YOUR STAFF AND MOST OF THE FOLKS HAVE SOME TYPE OF DISABILITIES.

AND IS, IS THE, DOES THAT RANGE FROM, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, WALKING AND, AND MAYBE SIGHT? YES.

WE HAVE A LOW VISION MEMBERS.

WE HAVE A HEART OF HEARING.

OKAY.

UH, DEAF, QUITE FRANKLY.

UM, BUT SHE JUST RELIVES, SO, OKAY.

UH, WE'VE GOT TWO WHEELCHAIR USERS, UM, AND THEN PEOPLE WITH OTHER VARIOUS DISABILITIES.

SO, BUT WE TRY TO OPERATE ABOVE THAT, THAT THRESHOLD OF 50%, 70 ISH, SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE CALLING THERE, YOU GET A REAL EXPERT WHO CAN TELL YOU WHAT IT'S LIKE TO RIDE THE BUS, WHAT IT'S LIKE TO WORK WITH SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION, WHAT IT'S LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH ALL THOSE THINGS.

SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY WELL, WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT, UH, IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY ON YOUR STAFF WHO'S HAD THAT EXPERIENCE, THEN, THEN THEY'VE GOT THAT, UH, UH, THEY CAN REACH OUT WITH THAT EMPATHY AND SAY, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH 'CAUSE I'VE DONE THE SAME THING.

THIS IS WHAT I RECOMMEND.

A HUNDRED PERCENT YES.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIG BONUS IS THE EMPATHY FOR THE CLIENT CALLING ON THE PHONE.

JUST CURIOUS IF YOU'VE HIRED ANY OF YOUR FORMER CLIENTS.

I HAVEN'T HAD ANY TURNAROUND SINCE I TOOK OVER, BUT WE DO HAVE A STAFF MEMBER THAT IS A CLIENT.

UH, HE IS A WHEELCHAIR USER, UH, PROFICIENT, HIGHLY PROFICIENT WITH IT.

HE'S OUR INFORMATION AND TECHNOLOGY, UH, SPECIALIST.

SO, UM, WE CAN HELP PEOPLE THAT BECOME RECENTLY DISABLED WITH MODIFICATIONS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO THEIR HOME.

SO HE, HE SPECIALIZES IN THAT.

SO, YEAH.

THERE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.

I'LL, I'LL TRY AND MAKE IT REALLY QUICK.

UM, SO HOW DO YOU MEASURE SUCCESS? WE HAVE METRICS.

UH, I HAVE SOME GOALS, UH, THAT ARE, ARE BOARD DRIVEN, UM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A STATE PLAN.

SO WE'RE ONE OF 17 CENTERS OF INDEPENDENT LIVING.

SO WE HAVE STATE GOALS, AND THEN WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL CENTER FOR INDEPENDENT LIVING GOALS.

SO ONE OF THE KEY FUNCTIONS FOR US WAS, UH, MORE YOUTH, UH, SERVICES.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GROW THE YOUTH SERVICES, WARREN COUNTY ELEMENTS.

WE'RE ALSO DOING PRE ETS GOING INTO THE SCHOOLS, TEACHING THESE THINGS TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE, UH, 17, 18 INSTEAD OF CATCHING THEM WHEN THEY GET OUT OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

SO WE MEASURE SUCCESS WITH, WITH SMART GOALS, UM, THAT WE HAVE.

MM-HMM.

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AND THEN, UH, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE SURPLUS OF FUNDS AND NO, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS ASKED OF ALL ALREADY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN, THE SERVICE YOU PROVIDE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

AND IF YOU GUYS EVER KNOW ANYBODY WHO NEEDS SOMETHING, TELL 'EM ACCESS IN PEN.

DO YOU HAVE ANY CARDS OR ANYTHING? I DIDN'T BRING ANY CARDS, BUT I, I WILL, I WILL, UH, SHOOT, UH, UH, MEGAN, I GUESS AN EMAIL.

TELL HER TO DISTRIBUTE IT OUT.

I GUESS SHE'S THE ONE I COMMUNICATE WITH REGARDING THIS, SO.

ALRIGHT, APPRECIATE THAT.

BECAUSE I, I OFTEN RECOMMEND YOU, BUT I HAVEN'T HAD YOUR, YOUR NUMBER, SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND NEXT ON OUR

[B. 6:20 - 6:40 PM - Blue Ridge Opportunities]

SCHEDULE IS BLUE RIDGE OPPORTUNITIES, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S YOU, MA'AM.

GOOD EVENING.

HOW ARE YOU? I'M GOOD.

SAY GOOD EVENING.

UH, CHAIRMAN CU REST OF THE BOARD.

THANK YOU FOR BEING OUT.

YOU ALL OF A SUDDEN IT GOT COLD AND I'M NOT AS ELOQUENT AS MR. HARBAUGH .

UM, WE HAVE THE BOARD MEMBERS, SO WOULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF? SURE.

MY NAME IS KATHY WOLF.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF BLUE RIDGE OPPORTUNITIES.

AND I'LL GIVE YOU A, A QUICK RUNDOWN SINCE YOU'RE NEW TO THE BOARD OF WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE DO.

WE'RE ON THE CORNER OF WATER STREET, UM, WATER AND COMMERCE MEET THERE.

WE'RE THE YELLOW BUILDING

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WITH THE BLUE VAN THAT GOES AROUND THE TOP.

AND WE SERVE ADULTS WITH DISABILITIES.

UM, WE ACTUALLY DO REFER SOME PEOPLE THAT NEED WHEELCHAIRS TO ACCESS INDEPENDENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, UM, WE FILTER PEOPLE THEIR WAY ALSO.

UM, WE PROVIDE DAY SUPPORTS.

SO WE ARE WHAT, SO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM COVERS YOU UNTIL YOU'RE 22 YEARS OLD AND WE COVER FROM 22 AND UNTIL MY OLDEST CLIENT RIGHT NOW IS 71.

AND, UM, WE PROVIDE THOSE THINGS THAT YOU DO ALL DAY LONG.

SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET OUT OF THE PRE COVID MENTALITY, BUT WHAT WE USED TO DO, HAD A LITTLE WORK COMPONENT PIECE TO IT.

WE NO LONGER WORK BECAUSE THE STATE SAYS THAT WE CAN'T, SO WE DON'T, UM, THAT'S LEGISLATIVE STUFF, THAT'S JUST WITH THE SERVICES AND OUR LICENSE AND THAT KIND OF THING.

SO WHAT WE DO IF WE, WE'VE TURNED TO VOLUNTEERISM.

SO ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS WE SERVE HAVE AN INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY, UM, A LOT WITH CO-OCCURRING ANXIETIES AND SEIZURES AND SOME OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND WE'VE TURNED TO VOLUNTEERING TO OUR COMMUNITY INSTEAD.

SO WE DO A LOT OF, UM, STUFF.

I MEAN, WE'RE BUSY.

WE, WE DO A LOT OF STUFF FOR THE COMMUNITY SUCH AS, IT'S LIKE EVERY WEEK WE DELIVER THE FOOD PACKS FROM THE BACKPACKERS PROGRAM THROUGH, UM, CALVARY EPISCOPAL CHURCH.

WE GO TO THE CHURCH, WE PICK UP ALL OF THESE BACKPACKS.

I THINK THE RUSTY JEFFRIES IS SERVING LIKE 140 KIDS RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE FREE AND REDUCED LUNCHES.

SO WE HAVE BIG VANS, BIG BUSES, AND WE'VE GOT LOTS OF ARMS AND FEET SO THAT WE CAN CARRY A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS AND, AND DO THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO WE MOVE THAT FOOD EVERY THURSDAY.

UM, WE STILL DO MAILINGS FOR ALL THE NONPROFITS IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, PUT THOSE TOGETHER FOR FREE.

SO ALL OF YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT MAIL THAT COMES IN THE MAIL, UM, EVERY YEAR WE'VE ASSEMBLED ALL THAT FOR NORTH WARREN, UH, THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.

AND, UM, WE'VE DONE SOUTH WARREN A TIME OR TWO.

IT'S LIKE, WE DIDN'T DO THEM THIS LAST YEAR, BUT IT'S LIKE WE, WE DO ALL OF THAT.

WE DO THE WARREN COUNTY EDUCATION ENDOWMENT MAILINGS, UM, AND THAT'S ALL FREE OF CHARGE TO THEM.

WE ALSO SHRED FOR ST.

LUKE'S.

WE SHRED THEIR, WE HAVE A HIPAA COMPLIANT SHREDDING GROUP, SO IT'S LIKE WE, WE SHRED FOR ST.

LUKE'S AND WE, UH, IF SOMETHING HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER IN THE COUNTY FOR SOMETHING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR FOR LIKE ALL OF TEACHERS IN THE CHAMBER, THEY GET ALL OF THOSE LITTLE GOODIE BAGS.

WE'VE SAT AROUND THE TABLE AT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND GIGGLED AND LAUGHED AND HAD A GREAT TIME AND PUT ALL OF THOSE BAGS TOGETHER AND DONE THAT KIND OF STUFF.

WE'RE GETTING READY TO, UM, WE DO ALL OF NAJA SHREDDING, THE NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE ASSOCIATION OVER ON, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ON SOUTH STREET JUST AS YOU'RE GOING OUTTA TOWN ON THE, THE DATA CENTER THERE.

UM, AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO START PUTTING SOME OF THEIR BAGS TOGETHER FOR THEIR CREWS THAT THEY'RE GETTING READY TO DO FOR THEIR BIGGEST FUNDRAISER.

SO IT'S LIKE, SO WE, WE TRY TO KEEP OUR HANDS BUSY INTO THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT, AND WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHAT'S GOING ON THE OTHER PROBABLY 80% OF OUR DAYS.

UM, SO WE, WE DO 20, 30% OF THAT.

UM, THE REST OF IT IS WE'RE EXPERIENCING THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S LIKE PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES ARE ISOLATED, THEY'RE STILL KEPT AT HOME.

THEY DON'T GET TO DO A WHOLE LOT.

AND, UM, SO WE'RE LEARNING HOW TO SHOP AT TARGET.

WE'RE DOING ALL OF THE LIFE SKILLS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND OR KNOW HOW TO DO.

SO THEY'RE LEARNING HOW TO BUDGET, THEY'RE LEARNING HOW TO, YOU KNOW, USE A DEBIT CARD, UM, THAT WE'RE REALLY BIG ON USING YOUR DEBIT CARD RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT JUST THE MANNER OF SWIPING IS SOMETHING THAT OUR CLIENTS DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW HOW TO DO, UM, IN INSIDE THE PROGRAM IF THEY HAVE NOT GONE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

WHICH MOST OF THE, I MEAN, THE OTHER DAY I WAS, I WAS WORKING, IT WAS SO QUIET, I WENT OUT AND SAW THAT THERE WAS ONLY THREE PEOPLE IN MY BUILDING AND WE START WITH 32 EVERY MORNING.

THEY WERE ALL GONE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY DOING WHAT YOU AND I DO EVERY DAY.

AND THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO GET THEM INTO THE COMMUNITY, EXPERIENCING THE COMMUNITY AND BEING RECOGNIZED AND UNDERSTOOD DOWNTOWN.

BECAUSE WE'RE DOWNTOWN, WE DO A LOT DOWNTOWN.

UM, EVERY BUSINESS OWNER DOWNTOWN KNOWS WHO WE ARE, WHAT WE'RE DOING, KNOWS OUR, OUR INDIVIDUALS BY NAME, UM, AND ACTUALLY SITS AND HAS CONVERSATIONS AND ENGAGES AND REALLY CARES ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SO THAT IS THE BIG PART OF WHAT WE DO.

UM, HOW DO WE DO THAT? WE DO THAT THROUGH A MEDICAID FUNDED SYSTEM.

SO WE ACTUALLY DO GET PAID FOR THE SERVICES THAT WE, THAT WE PROVIDE TO THE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE THAT FUNDING.

HOWEVER, IT'S NEVER ENOUGH FOR

[00:20:01]

WHAT WE ACTUALLY DO.

UM, WE SPEND ROUGHLY ABOUT $2,000 A MONTH JUST ON ACTIVITY FEES.

HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO GET INTO THE MUSEUM OF THE SHENANDOAH VALLEY? WE USED TO BE ABLE TO GO ON WEDNESDAYS AND IT'S FREE.

IT'S NOT ANYMORE.

HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO GO INTO ALL OF THE DIFFERENT, UM, EVENTS? I MEAN, IT MAY ONLY BE THE, I THINK WE SPENT 170 SOME ODD DOLLARS GOING INTO THE MERE MUSEUM DOWN THERE AT DEDO, ET CETERA.

AND THEY GIVE US A BREAK.

EVERYBODY GIVES US A BREAK.

BUT WHEN YOU'VE GOT 30 PEOPLE THAT NEED TO EXPERIENCE SOMETHING, IT THINGS GET QUITE EXPENSIVE.

SO WE SPEND A GOOD CHUNK OF MONEY ON THOSE EXPERIENCES THAT YOU AND I TAKE FOR GRANTED.

UM, SO THE MAJORITY OF OUR FUNDING DOES COME FROM MEDICAID.

UM, WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE FUNDING THAT WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING FROM THE COUNTY FOR A LONG TIME, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, IT'S VERY VITAL IT COMES IN RIGHT AT THE RIGHT TIME TO HELP HELP US, UH, WHETHER IT COMES IN IN JANUARY AND IN JULY FOR US, OR, YOU KNOW, JULY, AUGUST.

AND THOSE, UH, THOSE ARE REALLY BIG.

YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF INSURANCES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT'S WHEN ALL OF OUR INSURANCES COME DUE.

SO, UM, YEAH, I JUST COMPLETELY LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT SINCE I PREPARED I'LL, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTION.

OKAY.

YEAH, I'D SAY THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS? SO, JUST TO UNDERSTAND, DO YOUR, YOUR CLIENTS GET BROUGHT TO YOU LIKE AT A SCHOOL SORT OF EVERY DAY? YEAH, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, KIND, KIND OF LIKE A SCHOOL.

OKAY.

THEY, THEY RIDE, MOST OF THEM RIDE A MEDICAID FUNDED TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.

UM, THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO VANS THAT, THAT COME.

THEY PICK 'EM UP AT HOME AND BRING 'EM TO US.

OKAY.

AND THEN THEY PICK 'EM UP AGAIN AT A QUARTER TILL FOUR AND TAKE 'EM ALL HOME.

OKAY.

AND ARE YOUR STAFF VOLUNTEERS OR ARE THEY SALARIED OR, OH, THEY'RE ALL SALARIED.

OKAY.

AND IS THERE SOME SORT OF LICENSURE OR CERTIFICATION THAT THEY HAVE? YES, WE'RE LICENSED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH OF VIRGINIA, OF, UM, IT'S A VIRGINIA BY THE STATE.

UH, LICENSURE IS QUITE INTENSE.

UM, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN, UH, I MEAN, JUST AS SIMPLE, IT HAS TO BE BETWEEN 68 AND 72 DEGREES IN THE BUILDING AT ALL TIMES.

NO, IT HAS TO BE THE TEMPERATURE, WATER TEMPERATURE HAS TO BE AT 110.

IT CAN'T BE 108, IT CAN'T BE 112.

IT'S GOTTA BE 110.

AND THESE ARE ALL THINGS, JUST THIS, THAT'S JUST THE FISCAL STUFF.

ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAVE ALL HAVE A CLINICAL PLAN.

MM-HMM.

THAT IS ACCORDING TO THEM THEIR NEEDS, WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE SEIZURES, WHETHER OR NOT THEY NEED TO WORK ON, UM, TOILETING, WHETHER OR NOT THEY NEED TO WORK ON WRITING THEIR NAME, WHETHER OR NOT THEY NEED TO WORK ON ADVOCATING FOR THEMSELVES, WHICH IS, WHICH IS A HUGE ONE FOR A LOT OF OUR CLIENTS.

AND SO THAT ALL HAS TO BE CLINICALLY PREPARED WITH ALL OF THEIR DIAGNOSES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND I, AND I HOLD THAT LICENSURE MYSELF.

AND YOUR CLIENTS SAID 50% WERE FROM WARRANTS OR THE REST JUST BUSING IN OR FROM AROUND HERE'RE COMING IN FROM FREDERICK COUNTY.

AND, AND I EXPLAINED A LITTLE BIT OF THAT, THOSE OF THAT HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE HAVE HEARD THE SPIEL.

BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS WARREN COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE GROUP HOMES.

MOST HA UH, HALF MY POPULATION LIVES AT HOME IN WARREN COUNTY WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

AND THEY'VE NOT BE, THEY'VE NOT COME INTO CRISIS TO THE POINT TO WHERE THEIR FAMILIES CAN'T HANDLE THEM ANYMORE.

MM-HMM.

, EVERYBODY ELSE HAS ALREADY BEEN INTO CRISIS AND THEY'VE BEEN PLACED INTO GROUP HOME FACILITIES.

BUT SINCE WARREN COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE THOSE FACILITIES HERE, THEY HAVE TO LEAVE THE AREA IN ORDER TO DO IT.

SO FAMILIES ARE LOOKING FOR PLACES.

THERE'S, WE'VE HAD THREE SINCE COVID THAT HAVE COME TO US.

THEY'VE BEEN IN CRISIS AND THEN WE'VE WORKED WITH OTHER AGENCIES IN ORDER TO GET THEM A PLACE TO LIVE SO THAT THEIR FAMILIES CAN CONTINUE TO BE A FAMILY INSTEAD OF BEING BURNT OUT AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

AND THEY'VE HAD TO MOVE OUT OF THE AREA TO FREDERICK COUNTY.

OKAY.

HAVE, MAYBE THEIR DISABILITIES MIGHT BE BEYOND THIS, BUT HAVE YOU HAD ANYONE SORT OF GRADUATE TO INDEPENDENT LIVING? WE SOMETIMES THE PE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'RE SERVING NOW MM-HMM.

, UM, PROBABLY WILL NOT GRADUATE BEYOND OUR SCOPE OF SERVICES.

WE HAVE ONE THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL.

YEAH.

UM, I'VE ACTUALLY GOT THREE REFERRALS THAT ARE FROM WARREN COUNTY REFERRALS THAT ARE SITTING ON MY DESK RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING IN THE DOOR THAT NEEDS SOME RETUNING TO SAY THE, YOU KNOW, TO SAY THE LEAST RETUNING SO THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY REENTER THE WORKFORCE AGAIN AND THEN GO, GO TO DARS, THE DEPARTMENT OF REHAB AND GO WORK WITH A JOB COACH AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

BUT THEY, COVID HAS DONE A HUGE DAMAGE MM-HMM.

.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY DOESN'T WANT TO KEEP HEARING ABOUT COVID, BUT WE ARE STILL SEEING THE RESULTS OF IT.

YEAH.

AND WE'RE STILL SEEING THAT THE SOCIAL SKILLS THAT, I MEAN THE GENERAL POPULATION LOST A TON OF SOCIAL SKILLS DURING COVID.

YEAH.

UM, IT'S LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, A TEENAGER THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME.

YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THE SOCIAL SKILLS THAT ARE, THAT ARE ABSENT

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OUR POPULATION HAS NOT BEEN EXCUSED FROM MM-HMM.

.

SO, THANK YOU.

HOW MANY STAFF ARE THERE RIGHT NOW? I HAVE 11.

THERE'LL BE 12.

OKAY.

AND TO BE HONEST, I THINK I ONLY HAVE ONE THAT LIVES OUT IN THE COUNTY.

THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE ALL COUNTY RESIDENTS.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 12 THIS YEAR.

I WILL HAVE 12 THIS YEAR, PROBABLY CLOSER TO SUMMER.

IT'S LIKE A, WE'VE GOT THE REFERRALS THAT ARE COMING IN.

WHEN I GET TO 36 CLIENTS, I HAVE TO HAVE 12 STAFF.

AND WITH THE THREE REFERRALS YOU ARE GETTING CLOSE TO THAT 36? I AM, UH, I WILL, AS LONG AS THEY'RE ACCEPTED AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF.

AND THEIR PAPERWORK'S IN ORDER AND THAT KIND OF THING.

THEY, THEY, I KNOW TWO WILL BE ACCEPTED.

ONE I DON'T HAVE ANY DOCUMENTATION ON YET.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

UM, I WILL BE AT THAT 36.

I'LL BE THERE BY JULY.

WE WERE HOPING TO BE AT 36 BY 2026.

I BELIEVE IT WAS 36 CLIENTS TO GET TO 36 CLIENTS.

OKAY.

BY 2026.

BUT WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT TWO YEARS EARLY.

IT'S LIKE, I SENT THE OUTCOME MEASURES.

IT WAS A BIG LONG DOCUMENT THAT I SENT JUST RECENTLY THIS WEEK.

UM, IN RESPONSE TO THE LAST QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF DATA, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THERE.

UM, I HAVE TO REBUILD THAT DOCUMENT THIS YEAR, WHICH IS ON MY DESK TO DO BECAUSE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO THROUGH 2026.

BUT WE'VE ACTUALLY MET ALL OF OUR GOALS EARLY, UM, AND EXCEEDED A LOT OF OUR GOALS EARLY.

SO THE, THE PLAN ITSELF IS NO LONGER REALLY FUNCTIONAL.

SO THAT'S IN THE WORKS TO BE DONE BEFORE MY MARCH BOARD MEETING.

SO, UM, SO DID YOU ALL SEE THE GOALS SHEET OR IS THAT NOT, I MAYBE NOT SENT BACK.

I DON'T THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE PACKAGE.

AND YOU SENT THAT TO MEGAN, THEN I SENT THAT TO MEGAN.

IT LOOKS LIKE THIS, IT STARTS WITH THE BLUE RIDGE OPPORTUNITY SERVICES STRATEGIC PLAN.

I CAN LEAVE THIS COPY WITH YOU GUYS IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

UM, BUT IT'S A LITERALLY PROBABLY 23 PAGES AND PART OF THAT IS OUR RISK MANAGEMENT AND QUALITY IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

THAT CHART LIKE THIS.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YOU CAN HAVE THAT.

EVERYONE GETS A COPY, SAY YEAH.

YOU CAN HAVE THAT AND THEY CAN ALL, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, THAT'S THE PLAN THAT WE'RE REBUILDING AND WE LIVE, WE LIVE AND BREATHE BY THAT DOCUMENT.

I MEAN WE, I'VE GOT A POLICY MANUAL THAT'S THIS THICK, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY DOES.

AND BUT THAT IS A, AN ACTUAL WORKING DOCUMENT THAT I HAVE AN FINALIZED DECEMBER'S NUMBERS YET BECAUSE WE'RE JUST IN THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY.

AND THAT INCLUDES ATTENDANCE RATES.

OKAY.

IF PEOPLE AREN'T COMING, WHY, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE HAVING LOW, WE, WE HAD AN AIM OF 92%.

WE ACTUALLY MET THAT THIS YEAR.

OUR YEAR TO DATE ATTENDANCE RATE WAS 92%.

GIVING COVID IS STILL RUNNING GIVING THAT WE STILL HAVE THE FLU IS OUT TREMENDOUS OVER THIS PAST YEAR AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, HITTING 92% WAS AWESOME BECAUSE WE HAD ORIGINALLY COME BACK FROM COVID AT SOMETHING LIKE 86%, 84% WAS THE MAX WE COULD GET OUT OF, OUT OF, OUT OF THE YEAR.

SO WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF GOOD STRIDES OF, OF WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

SO I I'M PLEASED WE ARE IN A, IN, IN A GOOD, IN A GOOD POSITION MEETING OUR GOALS.

I HAVE QUESTIONS.

I HAVE JUST A FEW.

OKAY.

SO, UM, SO YOU KEEP SAYING WE WANNA HIT, UH, THAT YOU WANNA HIT 32 CLIENTS.

36.

36.

I'M SORRY, I'M LOOKING AT THIS RIGHT NOW AND I SEE 32 YES.

THAT YOU ARE SERVING RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN THE NUMBER THREE QUESTION IS SAYING THE NUMBER THAT, UM, CLIENTS SERVE FOR WARREN COUNTY.

SO DO YOU JUST SERVE WARREN COUNTY OR ARE YOU SERVING OTHER COUNTIES? WE DO SERVE OTHER COUNTIES BECAUSE I CAN'T GET THE CLIENT BASE FROM WARREN COUNTY IN ORDER TO DO IT WITH THE FUNDING THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE IN ORDER FOR US TO PAY OUR BILLS.

SO HOW, 'CAUSE THEN HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS ARE, UM, FROM WARREN COUNTY? 'CAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, IT JUST SAYS 50%.

SO I WENT OH, 50%.

SO OUT OF THAT 32 IS 16, YOU KNOW, THERE, UM, IN THE UPDATED PARTNER AGENCY DOCUMENTATION, I BELIEVE I PUT IN, I WROTE THAT NUMBER DOWN BECAUSE I KNEW YOU WERE GONNA ASK IT.

WARREN COUNTY RESIDENCE.

IT'S IN THE, UM, THE NEW PARTNER AGENCY.

PREP.

PREP, WHATEVER.

THERE'S 15 THAT ARE 15 THAT WERE WARREN COUNTY RESIDENCE.

IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS DID NOT GET THE UPDATE THAT CAME IN THIS WEEK.

NO, IT'S, IT'S HERE.

IT'S PROB YEAH, WE SENT ADDITIONAL

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QUESTIONS.

YEAH.

SO YEAH, THIS IS TOLD, THOSE ARE THE RESPONSE TO THE NEW QUESTIONS.

THIS RESPONSE TO THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

YEAH, WE HAVEN'T, WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

OKAY.

SO THERE ARE 15 WARREN COUNTY RESIDENTS.

THREE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE ORIGINATED IN WARREN COUNTY AND NO LONGER ARE WARREN COUNTY RESIDENTS.

THEIR FAMILIES ARE, BUT THEY LIVE IN WINCHESTER.

SO IT'S A TOTAL OF 18 OUT OF MY OUT OUT OF THE 32 THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

14 OR, YEAH, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

OKAY.

SO, SO OUT OF THE 32 THERE ARE 15 OF, UH, ARE WARREN COUNTY.

YEAH.

15 AND THREE THAT HAD TO RELOCATE.

OKAY.

I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN.

WHAT YOU MEAN ABOUT HOW COULD THEY BE YOUR CLIENTS IF THEY'RE NOT, IF THEY'RE NOT IN WARREN COUNTY, THEY COME ON THE BUS.

OH, THEY COME IN? YEAH, THEY COME IN, THEY TRAVEL.

OKAY.

THEY COME TO YOU? THEY COME TO US.

OKAY.

SO IF IF I THE THREE RELOCATED, THEN THEY RELOCATED RESIDENTS OF WARREN COUNTY BUT RELOCATED BECAUSE SOMETIMES ACTUALLY IF YOU MOVE CLOSER TO IT, OKAY.

IT'S WEIRD HOW THAT IS.

UM, IF, IF THERE A WARREN COUNTY RESIDENT, BUT THEY NO LONGER CAN LIVE AND FUNCTIONALLY HELP SAFELY AT HOME.

RIGHT.

THEN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE GROUP HOME, THEY GO TO FREDERICK COUNTY.

RIGHT.

BUT THEY COME BACK HERE FOR SERVICES.

THEY COME BACK HERE SO THAT WE, WE CAN KEEP THEM CONNECTED TO WHAT THEY'VE KNOWN.

RIGHT.

SO DO YOU COUNT THEM AS OUT OF COUNTY THEN, OR STILL? I COUNT THEM AS OUT OF COUNTY.

OKAY.

SO THERE'S, THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I BROKE DOWN THAT NUMBER.

THERE'S THREE, I CURRENTLY HAVE THREE THAT ARE, WERE IN COUNTY THAT ARE NOW OUT OF COUNTY.

OKAY.

SO WHERE DO THE OTHER, UH, OUT OF COUNTIES ARE THEY, THEY LIVE WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WENT OUT OF COUNTY IN THEIR GROUP HOME AND THEY WENT HOME AND SAID, HEY, WE'RE HAVING A BLAST.

I WANT TO GO THERE TOO.

SO THEIR REST OF THEIR GROUP HOME NOW COMES TO US.

OKAY.

WE WORK SPECIFICALLY WITH NANDO VALLEY COMMUNITY RESIDENCES AND WE HAVE QUITE A FEW OF THOSE.

IT IS A RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM THAT WE REALLY TRUST.

I LIKE THEIR MODEL.

THEY TAKE REALLY GOOD CARE OF THEIR FOLKS.

AND, UM, THAT'S USUALLY WHERE I MAKE MY REFERRALS TO, TO FAMILIES THAT ARE LIKE, WE, WE'VE GOT ONE THAT'S IN CRISIS RIGHT NOW THAT WILL PROBABLY MOVE BE NUMBER FOUR.

SHE'LL COME OUT OF THAT 15 AND BE A NU BE THE NUMBER FOUR.

AND, UM, GO TO, UH, SHE VALLEY COMMUNITY RESIDENCES IN THE NEXT PROBABLY THREE MONTHS.

BUT ALL OF THOSE NON WORN RESIDENTS STILL ARE MEDICAID FUNDED.

THEY'RE STILL MEDICAID FUNDED YES.

ON THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION.

YEAH.

I'M JUST, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND.

UM, THE TOTAL FUNDING IS ON THE TOP ROW AND THEN DOWN BELOW AT THE BOTTOM OF THE TABLE THERE'S TOTAL EXPENSES.

SO THE TOTAL FUNDING NUMBER IS, UM, PLUS 65,000 PLUS 42,000 PLUS 25,000 PLUS 15,000.

SO FUNDING IS TOTAL FUNDING IS MORE THAN TOTAL EXPENSES.

YES.

OKAY.

I DON'T HAVE A ZERO BALANCE BUDGET BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PAY A THING CALLED A MORTGAGE AND IT IS, UM, SO THAT, THAT ALL THOSE, UM, WHATEVER THEY'RE EXCESSES, I MEAN THEY'RE NOT REALLY EXCESSES OR THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT EXCESSES BECAUSE THE MORTGAGE THAT'S WELL, WHICH YOU DIDN'T GET BECAUSE ED, THE P AND L AND THE BALANCE SHEET IS ALSO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I SAID.

SO ON THE FINANCIAL REPORT YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT, UM, REGULAR EXPENSES, YOUR TOILET PAPER, MY STAFF SALARIES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

THAT ALL GOES TO AND MORTGAGE INTEREST GOES TO YOUR PROFIT AND LOSS STATEMENT.

OKAY.

SO, SO THIS, THIS EXPENDITURES JUST IS JUST A LIMITED NUMBER OF ROWS.

IT DOESN'T HAVE, DOES ALL THE EXPENDITURES ARE ON THE P AND L? ALL THE EXPENDITURES ARE ON THE P AND L? THIS, THIS IS JUST PERSONNEL AND OPERATIONS.

YEAH.

IT'S JUST WHAT, JUST THIS TABLE RIGHT HERE? YEAH, THAT ONE.

PERSONNEL AND OPERATIONS.

YEAH.

PERSONNEL AND OPERATIONS.

YEAH.

SO IT'S LIKE WHAT, WHAT IS MISSING? OPERATIONS.

PERSONNEL WOULD BE ALL OF THE STUFF THAT I HAVE TO PAY FOR PERSONNEL.

SURE.

YEAH.

OPERATIONS IS WHAT WE PAY FOR TOILET LOOP AND ALL OF THE OTHER.

BUT NOT MOR THE MORTGAGE NUMBERS.

NO, BUT, BUT IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE MORTGAGE.

OKAY.

NOW WHY IS THAT? ISN'T THE, BECAUSE MORTGAGE PRINCIPAL'S NOT CONSIDERED AN EXPENSE.

IT'S CONSIDERED AN ASSET AND IT GOES TO YOUR BALANCE SHEET.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

SAME THING ON VEHICLE PAYMENTS.

IT'S LIKE ANY PRINCIPLE, PAY ANY PRINCIPAL PAYMENTS, GO TO YOUR BALANCE SHEET AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

YEAH.

INSTEAD OF GOING TO THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS PROVIDE BOTH, WHICH YOU GUYS HAVEN'T GOTTEN.

OKAY.

SO BASED ON THAT, UH,

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'CAUSE THERE IS A, A SIGNIFICANT, I WANNA CALL A SURPLUS FOR A LACK OF A BETTER WORD, WORD BETWEEN YOUR REVENUE AND YOUR EXPENDITURES.

BUT THAT DELTA IS, YOU'LL BE USING IT FOR YOUR MORTGAGE.

IS THAT OUR MORTGAGE? THE $10,000.

BUT WE JUST HAD TO PUT INTO A NEW BUS ENGINE WHICH GOES TO AN ASSET LINE INSTEAD OF GOING TO AN EXPENSE BECAUSE IT'S A, UM, THAT SORT OF STUFF.

THE NEW SERVER THAT I JUST PUT IN WAS $2,000 THAT GOES TO AN ASSET LINE AND NOT AN EXPENSE.

SO IT'S LIKE THERE'S EXPENSES THAT DON'T EVER SHOW UP ON EXPENDITURES.

IF, IF THAT MAKES IT, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO EXPLAIN.

NO, I UNDERSTAND IT COMPLETELY.

IT'S JUST HARD FOR ME TO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT I WOULD NOT BE PART OF THIS.

YOUR LINE ITEMS OF THE TOTAL EXPENDITURES THAT YOU HAVE FOR YOU THAT WASN'T ASKED FOR ON OH, IT WASN'T ASKED FOR, IT WASN'T, I DIDN'T PUT IT IS LIKE THERE'S NOT A, AN ASSET IN, IN YOUR ALL'S, IN YOUR ALL'S FORMS AND THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

THERE'S NOT A PLACE TO PUT ASSET PROCUREMENT OR ANY OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS IN ORDER TO PUT THAT ON THERE.

SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S AN OVERAGE IN, IN THAT.

SO WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE COSTS AS INDIRECT COSTS.

YES.

SO WE DON'T HAVE INDIRECT COSTS.

CORRECT.

WHAT, WHAT YOU PRESENTED, IT'S ALL DIRECT COSTS.

YES.

OKAY.

CAN WE ADD NEXT YEAR WHEN WE DO THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION SO THAT THEY BETTER UNDERSTAND THE THINGS THAT GO AT THE MORTGAGE PRINCIPLE AND LIKE THE $2,000 SERVER, YOUR BALANCE SHEET? MM-HMM.

CAN WE GET THAT IN ON A FORM SO IT'S BETTER UNDERSTOOD.

YOU CAN PUT IT IN THERE.

YOU CAN ADD ANYTHING YOU WANT TO THIS.

OKAY.

SO YOU WOULD PREFER TO SEE IT AS A ZERO BA A ZERO BALANCE OR, WELL, YOU KNOW, WITH ME, WHEN I LOOK AT RIGHT.

YOUR REVENUE VERSUS YOUR EXPENDITURES AND THEN YOU, YOU HAVE A POSITIVE, A FAVORABLE AMOUNT LEFT OVER.

RIGHT.

YOU AND THEN YOU'RE CUTTING.

SHE'S STILL THE MONEY.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

RIGHT.

THAT'S WHY SHE STILL NEEDS THE MONEY.

IT'S, SHE STILL NEEDS THE MONEY BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THERE EXACTLY.

I CAN BUY ANOTHER CAR BECAUSE I'M GONNA HAVE TO ADD THAT NEXT STEP.

RIGHT.

I DON'T HAVE ANOTHER VEHICLE FOR HER TO GO.

RIGHT.

UM, I'M GONNA HAVE TO PAINT MY BUILDING THIS YEAR.

THAT GOES STRAIGHT TO AN ASSET.

RIGHT, EXACTLY.

CAPITAL, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN OR YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.

AND THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO THEIR BUDGET REPORT TO SEE ALL OF THAT.

RIGHT.

AND UM, SO I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

NO.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OTHER QUESTIONS? THAT'S THE ONLY WHY THEY'RE NOT COMMUNICATING.

NOW DO, DO YOU LIVE HERE IN WARREN COUNTY? I LIVE IN WASHINGTON AVENUE.

I DO, I LIVE TWO BLOCKS FROM WORK AND DRIVE A TRUCK AND I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GAS 'CAUSE I PUT GAS IN IT ONCE A MONTH.

WOW.

RAISE MY KIDS IN, RAISE MY KIDS IN WARREN COUNTY.

THEY BOTH GRADUATES FROM SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL.

UM, ONE'S IN THE NAVY AND ONE'S DOING, ONE'S DOING, UM, WINDOWS AND DOORS.

SO.

OH, SUPER.

YOU KNOW, I'VE SUPER BEEN A WARREN COUNTY RESIDENT FOR A LONG TIME.

WELL, THANK YOU WITH FOR WHAT YOU DO WITH THE WORKSHOP.

I, I CALL IT WORKSHOP 'CAUSE THAT IT STARTED OUT WORKSHOP, RIGHT? SORRY.

YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

BUT, UM, THANK YOU THAT, UM, THAT GIVES THESE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT THEY WOULDN'T NORMALLY HAVE.

RIGHT.

AND IT GIVES THE FAMILY A BREAK AT THE SAME TIME.

RIGHT.

AND THERE, IF GO, GO ON FACEBOOK AND FOLLOW OUR FACEBOOK PAGE EVERY THURSDAY I POST PICTURES OF WHAT WE'VE DONE ALL WEEK LONG AND, UM, THE JOY.

UM, AND WE'VE GOT THE WHOLE OUTCOME MEASUREMENT SUCCESS.

AND THE QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED, UM, MR. HARBAUGH ABOUT HOW YOU MEASURE SUCCESS.

WE'VE GOT ALL OF THAT.

WE'VE GOT THE NUMBERS, WE'VE GOT THE DATA, WE ALL GET THAT.

BUT HOW DO I REALLY MEASURE SUCCESS? IS ARE THEY HAPPY? MM-HMM.

ARE MY STAFF HAPPY? I DON'T HAVE TURN BOARD.

IT'S LIKE I, I I ADD STAFF, BUT STAFF DON'T LEAVE.

IT'S LIKE I, I TAKE GOOD CARE OF OUR STAFF.

IT'S LIKE I, I, UM, TAKE GOOD CARE OF OUR CLIENTS AND THE CLIENTS THAT WE HAVE, THEY'RE HAPPY AND YOU CAN SEE THAT HAPPY IN, IN THE POSTS AND THE PICTURES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO I'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE FOLLOWING THAT SAY THAT IS JUST, THEY JUST LOOK AT THE PICTURES AND THAT THEY CAN SEE THE HAPPY AND PLEASE COME SEE US IF YOU WANT.

IF YOU'RE HAVING A BAD DAY, POP IN AND SAY HELLO BECAUSE WE ARE LITERALLY, IT'S A PARTY EVERY DAY AND UM, WE HAVE A GOOD TIME.

IT'S LIKE I, I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING DIFFERENT.

UM, WHAT FUNDRAISING DO YOU DO? IT WAS 17,011.

12.

12.

WHAT DOES THAT CONSIST OF? WELL SEE WE HAVE THIS THING CALLED GREEN COUNT THAT SOMETIMES DOES GOOD AND SOMETIMES DOESN'T.

AND I USED TO COUNT ON IT AND NOW I DON'T.

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SO, UM, I PULLED THAT WE USUALLY WOULD MAKE ABOUT $5,000 IN REVENUE ON THAT.

BUT THEN WE STARTED GROWING FOR THE, UM, WE DIDN'T LAST YEAR, BUT THE PREVIOUS TWO YEARS WE GREW ALL OF THE PLANTS FOR THE VICTORY GARDENS THAT WERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO WE GROW NOW TO GIVE INSTEAD OF GROW TO SOUTH.

AND UM, SO WE GROW, WE GROW STUFF, PLANTS, FLOWERS.

SO THEY LEARN YOUR CLIENTS LEARN HOW TO, THEY'RE LEARNING HOW TO DOWE, FERTILIZING.

I DON'T, I DON'T LIKE TO THINK ABOUT THE GREENHOUSE BECAUSE IF I THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH FUEL THAT I ACTUALLY PUT INTO IT AND HOW MUCH MONEY IT BRINGS IN IT, IT'S A PROGRAM EXPENSE.

SO, UM, DO YOU THINK THERE WOULD BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES LIKE , 5K RATES OR YOU KNOW, JUST OTHER, WELL THERE IS THE GENERAL COMMUNITY AND VISIBILITY AS WELL AS REVENUE.

MOST OF, MOST OF OUR FUNDRAISING IS DONE THROUGH, UM, SOCIAL MEDIA.

SOCIAL MEDIA FUNDRAISING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

WE'VE HAD BIG BOYS WITH THAT.

I DO A LOT OF SPEAKING BETWEEN ALL THE DIFFERENT ROTARY CLUBS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, WE USED TO, AND WE'VE FOUND THAT BY THE TIME I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY THAT CAN ACTUALLY SPEARHEAD THAT FOR US.

MM-HMM.

BY THE TIME I PAY MY STAFF TO BE THERE IN ORDER TO STAFF IT RIGHT.

I'VE PAID MORE THAN, OR EVEN IF THEY GET AN EXTRA, YOU KNOW, FOUR HOURS OF VACATION TIME OR, OR WHATEVER, I CAN'T ASK MY STAFF TO VOLUNTEER EVEN MORE TIME THAN THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN IN ORDER TO WORK ON A WEEKEND IN ORDER TO MAKE THEIR OWN PAYCHECK.

AND THEN I'VE PAID OUT MORE MONEY THAN WHAT WE ACTUALLY MAKE.

AND A LOT OF THOSE TYPES OF FUNDRAISERS.

MM-HMM.

.

SO, UM, A LOT OF US ARE TIRED AND WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR BOARD'S LOOKING AT.

BUT WE NEED SOME YOUNGER ENERGY ON OUR, ON OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS ALSO.

SO YEAH.

I MEAN THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY ON A BOARD WOULD, WOULD SPEARHEAD.

YEAH.

IT'S LIKE I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT A SOLID CORE OF A BOARD, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE .

OH, .

THAT'S HARD.

YEAH.

SO, OKAY.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'VE ENJOYED TALKING.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED THOUGH.

QUICK QUESTION.

UM, AND COUPLE MEETINGS NEXT MONTH THEY'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM WORKS.

OH REALLY? YEAH.

AND THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT REALLY.

AND I THOUGHT MAYBE JUST TO TELL 'EM HOW IT RELATES TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

NW WORKS IS THEY STILL ARE A WORK PROGRAM AND WE ACTUALLY DO, FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT GO GRADUATE FROM US, THEY GO TO UM, THERE, THEY HAVE THE SAME, UH, THEY DO A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS WE DO.

THEY'VE GOT A DAY PROGRAM WITHIN THEIR WORK CENTER PROGRAM.

SO THEY'VE GOT A REAL BIG WORK CENTER AND YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HEAR, UM, SEE THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT AVENUES THAT WE COULD HAVE GONE BACK ABOUT FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO.

ONE OF 'EM WAS TO GO TO WORK AND REALLY FOCUS ON WORK AND ONE OF 'EM WAS TO GO TO THE DAY SUPPORT SERVICES, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID.

THEY WENT TO THE WORK SIDE.

SO THEY, THEY HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND A LOT OF STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND FOR SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT, I MEAN THEY'VE GOT SOME WARREN COUNTY RESIDENTS.

SO IT'S LIKE THAT THAT'S A FAIR IT'S A FAIR QUESTION.

AND THEY ARE A NON-PROFIT ALSO.

UM, THEY ARE JUST HUGE.

IT'S LIKE THEY'RE, IT'S IT'S A BIG, IT'S JUST A BIG PROGRAM AND THEY DO DO A LOT OF WORK, A LOT LIKE OURS.

THEY'RE IN WINCHESTER.

THEY THEY ARE IN WINCHESTER AND WAS THE WHOLE THING ORIGINALLY NORTHWESTERN WORKSHOP.

AM I RIGHT? OKAY, SO YOU'RE GOING WAY BACK.

THAT'S WHY I SAID NORTHWESTERN BECAUSE I I CAN'T GET USED TO THE BLUE RIDGE OPPORTUNITIES THINKING WAY BACK.

YEAH.

SO WAY BACK IN 1992, UM, BLUE RIDGE OPPORTUNITIES BECAME THE WARREN COUNTY WORKSHOP AND IT BROKE OFF AS A SUBSIDIARY.

IT USED TO BE PART OF NW WORKS, WHICH WAS NORTHWESTERN WORKSHOP.

SO EVERYTHING 1980 TO 1992 WAS NORTHWESTERN WORKSHOP.

19 19 92 IT BECAME WARREN COUNTY WORKSHOP.

AND THEN WHEN I CAME ON BOARD IN UM, 2006 AS A REBUILDING, 'CAUSE IT WENT THROUGH A REALLY BAD SPELL.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, IT, WHEN I CAME IN IN 2006 TO REBUILD, WE CHANGED THE NAME, CHANGE THE BRAND, CHANGE THE SERVICES AND CHANGE, CHANGE THE OUTLOOK, CHANGE THE VISION AND, AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO THEY, THEY ARE WHO WE WERE BACK IN 1988 IF THAT

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MAKES SENSE.

AND THEIR, THEIR CLIENTS ARE IN ADDITION TO US.

CORRECT.

WE DO NOT SERVE THE SAME CLIENTS.

NOT THE SAME CLIENTS.

WE MAY BOUNCE CLIENTS BACK AND FORTH, THEY MAY KICK THEM OUT AND I MAY TAKE THEM AND I MAY KICK THEM OUT AND THEY MAY TAKE THEM, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, OR YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT THEY'RE, WE NEVER, WE NEVER HAVE SOMEBODY AT THE SAME TIME.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

JUST A YES DISTRICT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER HISTORY? I'M GOOD.

NO, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, SO THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

WE ON YOUR PRIORITIES, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT? SIGNIFICANT HIGHER THE NUMBER I I GOT IT.

THIS UPDATED LAST TIME WE SAW, RIGHT? YES.

OKAY.

THEY OFF DEPARTMENT LINE.

THE WHEN YOU CALLED OUT.

YES.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

I POINTED THAT OUT.

THAT WAS A, SO WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE, THIS PACKET TODAY, I SAID THAT CAN'T BE ARRIVED AND LOOKED AT AND 1.5 MILLION FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS THEIR ENTIRE BUDGET INCLUDING STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING.

SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR US 488,000.

OH THAT'S MUCH CLOSER IN LINE TO WHERE THEY WERE LAST.

YES.

SHE'LL EXPLAIN THAT.

BUT WE CAUGHT THAT AND THAT'S WHAT CHANGES THIS INCREASE HERE ON THE WHOLE PICTURE GOING FROM 3 73 TO 4 88 GOING 1.5 DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

UM, WE WILL SEND YOU AN UPDATED SCHEDULE TOMORROW MATT'S WORKING ON.

IF I CAN GIVE YOU JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS NEXT WEEK, TUESDAY WILL BE AS IT WAS SET IN THE SCHEDULE THAT YOU RECEIVED.

THURSDAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK IS WHEN THE BOARD WILL MEET THE CLOSED SESSION WITH THE EEA.

THEN AT SIX O'CLOCK YOU'LL HAVE THE REGULAR SCHEDULE THAT YOU HAVE HERE.

WE'RE STARTING WITH PHOENIX PROGRAM.

YES.

HI, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD TO SEE YOU.

GOOD TO YOU.

GOOD YOU ALL SWEETIE.

HI, I'M TARA BLACKLEY.

NICE TO MEET YOU.

TO MEET YOU TOO.

EVERY TIME I COME IN IT'S A DIFFERENT SETUP.

LAST TIME IT WAS BACK THERE.

OVER THE ROOM LIKE TO KEEP US ON OUR TOES HUH? WE ARE LIVE STREAMING SO THAT THE, WE KEEP THIS VERY TRANSPARENT AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND THEN COOL.

WE CAN ALSO GO BACK TO REVIEW AND, BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION TO TAKE IN SO BEING ABLE TO GO BACK AND REVIEW IS HELPFUL AS WELL.

SO THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

UM, AND WE DO HAVE TWO NEW SUPERVISORS SO IF YOU WOULD UH, NO, I'M GOOD.

THANK YOU.

INTRODUCE YOURSELVES UH, SO THAT THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU DO.

APPRECIATE IT.

GLAD YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING.

YEAH.

YOU'RE JUST GREAT.

YEAH.

PERFECT TIMING .

ALRIGHT,

[D. 7:00 - 8:00 PM - Health Department]

SO MY NAME'S LEANNE SWEENEY.

I'M THE BUSINESS MANAGER FOR THE LORD FAIRFAX HEALTH DISTRICT AND WHICH INCLUDES THE WARD COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

UM, WE ARE HAPPY TO WELCOME OUR NEW HEALTH DIRECTOR, TARA BLACKLEY.

AND I'M JUST GONNA LET HER SAY A FEW THINGS ABOUT HERSELF.

SURE.

SO, UM, IF YOU WOULD, OF COURSE.

SO GOOD EVENING CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

IT'S REALLY NICE TO MEET YOU.

I'M REALLY EXCITED TO ENJOY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AS THE NEW HEALTH DIRECTOR.

UM, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE EXCELLENT SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING ALONGSIDE YOU ALL IN DOING THAT.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

SO AS PART OF THAT, UM, SECTION 32.1 DASH 30 OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA STATES, IF A LOCAL HEALTH DIRECTOR IS NOT A PHYSICIAN LICENSED TO PRACTICE MEDICINE AND THERE'S NO LICENSED PHYSICIAN STAFF, THE LOCAL HEALTH RECORD SHALL ENTER INTO A CONSULTING AGREEMENT WITH A LICENSED PHYSICIAN TO EXECUTE PRESCRIBING DUTIES, CONSULT ON CLINICAL MATTERS, AND PERFORM ALL OTHER DUTIES AS REQUIRED OR AS REQUESTED.

DR. RICHARD WILLIAMS HAS JOINED OUR TEAM A UM, FLOATING MEDICAL CONSULTANT.

SO HE'LL PROVIDE MEDICAL CONSULTATION SERVICES TO MULTIPLE HEALTH DISTRICTS AND STATES WITHOUT A PHYSICIAN ON STAFF AND TO PROVIDE TEMPORARY HEALTH DIRECTOR COVERAGE AS NEEDED.

SO IF TARA IS OUT ON VACATION, THEN HE CAN STEP IN AND BE THE HEALTH DIRECTOR FOR US, WHICH IS GREAT 'CAUSE HE'LL HAVE, HE'LL KNOW.

OUR DISTRICT IN THIS SHORT TIME OF TARA AND DR. WILLIAMS HAVE BEEN PART OF OUR TEAM.

WE'VE EXPERIENCED IMPROVEMENTS IN OUR ADMINISTRATIVE PRO PROGRAMMATIC AND

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CLINICAL OPERATIONS AND ARE EXCITED TO CONTINUE TO GROW AND DEVELOP AS AN ORGANIZATION UNDER THEIR SUPPORT AND LEADERSHIP.

ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE WORKED HARD TO GET A FULL WORKFORCE IN THE WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT AS OF TODAY.

WE HAVE TWO FULL-TIME STAFF IN THE BUSINESS OFFICE AND ANOTHER ONE STARTING THIS MONTH.

THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS NOW FILLED WITH FOUR STAFF, BUT THEY ARE NEW AND WILL NEED SOME TIME TO GET FULLY TRAINED.

IT USUALLY TAKES ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF FOR AN EH STAFF TO BECOME FULLY TRAINED.

THERE IS A FULL-TIME NURSE IN THE OFFICE WITH TWO IN RECRUITMENT.

WE ARE HOPING BY THE END OF FEBRUARY WE WILL HAVE A FULLY STAFFED FORD COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

THE OTHER INITIATIVE THAT WE ARE WORKING ON IS WITH BDH.

WE WERE ARE MOVING TO AN EHR ELECTRONIC HEAD OF HEALTH RECORDS.

SO BY 20 26, 20 26 WE SHOULD HAVE ALL OUR FILES ELECTRONICALLY, WHICH WE'RE FULLY EXCITED ABOUT.

SO I'M GOING TO, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY GETS TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE POWERPOINT YET OR NOT, SO I'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME OF THIS.

I'M NOT GONNA READ IT WORD FOR 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION AND I FIGURED YOU ALL PROBABLY WOULD RATHER ASK SOME QUESTIONS TO US.

SO IT'LL BE PROBABLY MORE HELPFUL THAT WAY.

DOES, YOU MAY HAVE A COPY OF THIS.

MM-HMM.

.

SO LOOK, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT IN THE PACKET, WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET IT.

YES.

UM, I DO APOLOGIZE.

I WAS SENT OUT YESTERDAY , SO, UM, THE FIRST QUESTION YOU GUYS HAD ASKED ABOUT AS OUR EXPENDITURES UP TO THIS POINT, WE ARE NOT CONFIRMED FOR DECEMBER YET.

THEY'RE NOT FINAL NUMBERS YET.

I DID USE PROJECTED RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT IS THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE SEEING.

THERE IS A NOT FULLY, UH, FINALIZED.

UM, WE ARE EXPECTED TO EXPEND THE WHOLE BUDGET THIS YEAR FOR FY 24 THAT WE ASKED FOR.

UM, I CAN'T GETTING FEEDBACK.

MAYBE CLOSER WOULD BE BETTER.

OKAY.

IS THAT BETTER? THIS IS ALL OKAY.

I'M OFF .

OKAY.

SORRY I'M NOT USED TO MICROPHONES.

UM, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT A TWO, WE HAVE A 2% SALARY INCREASE IN DECEMBER, SO WE'RE GONNA START SEEING THAT.

PLUS WITH OUR FTES FILLING UP, THAT'LL BE MORE EXPENSES COMING.

WE ALSO HAD, UM, OUR JANITORIAL SERVICES.

WE HAVE NOT HAD A VENDOR IN THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS, SO WE'RE GONNA START SEEING THAT STARTING THIS MONTH REOCCURRING AGAIN.

AND WE ALSO HAVE BEEN HAVING A, UM, THE STATE HAS CREATED A NEW BILLING SYSTEM FOR OUR IT AND WE'RE SIX MONTHS BEHIND, SO WE'RE WAITING FOR ALL THOSE INVOICES TO HIT US.

PROBABLY ONE BIG LUMP SUM.

SO WE'VE GOT THAT IN OUR PROJECTIONS, BUT WE'RE JUST KIND OF, IT'S NOT HITTING YET.

SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? SO CONTINUOUS CHARGES ARE USUALLY LIKE RENT.

UM, I, I HAVE THEM ON MY LEASE.

YEAH.

.

YEAH, THAT'S THE RENT IS TO YOU ALL.

UM, IT ALSO INCLUDES, YEAH, ELECTRIC WATER, UH, WITH REFUGE REFUSE.

UM, WHICH WARD COUNTY DOESN'T REALLY HAVE THE REFUGE, WHICH IS, THAT'S USUALLY JUST OUR SHARPS CONTAINERS, WHICH THE ONLY REALLY TRAPPED.

YEAH.

UM, THAT'S USUALLY YOUR CONTINUOUS CHARGES.

SO WE'RE A ZERO.

WE HAVE THE BUDGET ZERO.

OKAY.

ZERO BASED BUDGET.

YEAH, WE, IT A BUDGET BASED ON WHAT THE LOCALITY GIVES US AND THEN THE STATE, SO DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU ALL PROVIDE IS HOW MUCH MONEY WE CAN GET FROM THE STATE.

SO IF YOU DON'T GIVE US ENOUGH, WE LEAVE MONEY ON THE TABLE.

YEAH, ABOUT 70,000 AND I'LL SAY THE LAST TWO YEARS WE HAD SOME CARRY FORWARD BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A LOT OF COVID FUNDS AND WE WERE, WE WERE A HIRING FREEZE FOR A WHILE.

SO THE GOAL IS HONESTLY TO BE ZERO.

WE REALLY TRY TO ASK FOR ONLY WHAT WE NEED.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WHEN WE HAVE COVID HOW COVID FUNDING CAME IN, THAT GAVE US A LITTLE BUMP IN OTHER, YOU KNOW, MONEY TO USE FOR OTHER EXPENSES THAT WE TYPICALLY WOULDN'T HAVE USED BEFORE.

LIKE WE BOUGHT TWO VEHICLES WITH THAT.

SO, AND IT'S BEEN, THEY'VE COME IN VERY USEFUL BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MOVE OUR TRAILERS EASIER AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR ALL THE EVENTS WE'VE DONE.

SO THE, THE CARRY OVER THAT ? YES.

YES, BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY USE SOME OF THE CARRY FORWARD.

UM, THE LOCAL MATCH PART OF IT IS INCLUDING ALL THE CARRY FORWARD THAT YOU HAD.

100%.

AND ALSO THE STATE INCLUDES THE, THE CARRY FORWARD THAT WE

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USE TO MATCH THE STATE BUDGET BECAUSE WE USE SOME OF THAT CARRY FORWARD.

SO WE GOT AN ALL THE STATE MONEY FIRST.

SO FOR THOSE NOT NECESSARILY FAMILIAR WITH HOW THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT BUDGET WORKS, SO WE WORK ON SOMETHING CALLED A COOPERATIVE BUDGET.

AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THE STATE PROVIDES AN ALLOCATION AND UM, SOMETIMES THAT CHANGES FROM YEAR TO YEAR BASED UPON, YOU KNOW, I IT EXPENDITURES.

THOSE ARE CONTRACTED EXPENDITURES.

UM, ANY OF THE FRINGE BENEFITS.

SO IF SOMETHING WERE TO CHANGE RELATED TO HEALTH INSURANCE OR SOMETHING ELSE, IF EMPLOYEES ARE GONNA GET A RAISE, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO THERE'S A SET COOPERATIVE AMOUNT AND THEN YOU'LL SEE IN OUR APPLICATION IT'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CODE SECTION THAT REFERENCES THAT THE, THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND HOW THAT BUDGET IS FORMED USING THAT COOPERATIVE MATCH.

AND THAT'S THE JAC IF YOU EVER HEARD OF THE J LARC, THAT'S HOW THAT'S DONE FOR THE STATE CODE.

AND THEY JUST REDID THAT THREE YEARS AGO AND THEY DID IT IN INCREMENTS.

SO WE'RE NOW SET FOR MAYBE THE NEXT 20, 30 YEARS.

THAT'S HOW LONG IT TOOK FOR 'EM TO REDO IT BEFORE SO .

SO IT WAS WAY PAST DUE, BUT THEY DID DO THAT AND WE ARE NOW SET FOR A WHILE.

, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO WE HAD A LOT OF COVID GRANTS, SO OUR FUNDING IS DEFINITELY DECREASING BECAUSE OF THE COVID.

YES, YES.

YEAH, WE'VE PRETTY, UH, WE'VE STILL GOT A FEW THAT WE'RE STILL HOLDING ONTO THAT WE'RE STILL EXPENDING, BUT MOST OF, WE HAD A LOT OF MONEY AND IT'S JUST, IT'S BEEN OVER A LONG TERM AND THEY KEPT EXTENDING IT BECAUSE WE HADN'T SPENT IT ALL.

SO IT WASN'T A LOT, A LOT OF GRANTS ARE YEARLY.

WELL COVID WAS LIKE THREE YEARS AND THEN NOW IT'S FOUR AND NOW IT'S LIKE FIVE.

'CAUSE THEY'RE LETTING US SPEND IT ALL DOWN.

SO WE ARE STILL USING A LOT OF IT FOR COVID, UM, OUTREACH AND VACCINATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.

I WILL SAY THE NEXT COUPLE ONES, WE'LL GO OVER A LITTLE BIT OF THIS, BUT I'LL LET YOU KIND OF READ THEM.

BUT THIS, THIS IS PROBABLY THE BIG ONES YOU GUYS WANNA KNOW ABOUT WHAT IS IS HOW WE DO PERFORMANCE MEASURES.

AND THIS SUMMER, UM, TARA'S BEEN REALLY WORKING WITH ME ON, UM, SINCE SHE STARTED AND I'VE LEARNED A LOT AND I WILL SAY ABOUT FOUR MONTHS THAT SHE'S BEEN HERE.

UM, I'M EXCITED TO HAVE HER ON BOARD BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN IN THIS POSITION, UM, BEFORE BEING A HEALTH DIRECTOR.

SO IT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO HAVE SOMEBODY AS A BUSINESS MANAGER BE ABLE TO STEP INTO HELP ME, UM, BECAUSE MOST POSITIONS DON'T DO THE BUSINESS PART .

SO IT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL.

UM, BUT WE PROMOTE AND PROTECT THE HEALTH OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S OUR JOB AND THAT'S THE, THE COMMISSION OF THE STATE AND OUR DISTRICT.

UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ACTUALLY, FOR EVERY DOLLAR YOU SPEND ON CHILDHOOD VACCINATIONS, OUR COUNTRY SAVES $10 90 CENTS.

THE CDC ESTIMATES THAT FOR THE VACCINATION OF CHILDREN BORN BETWEEN 1994 AND 2018, IT SAVED THE US NEARLY $406 BILLION IN DIRECT MEDICAL COSTS AND A ONE POINT 88 TRILLION IN SOCIETY COSTS.

IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, WHICH IS A GOOD A GOOD THING THAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE, FOR THE PUBLIC.

THE WIC PROGRAM IS ALSO ANOTHER BENEFICIAL PROGRAM.

AND THEY DID A STUDY WITH MEDICAID AT, AT OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND BIRTHS, FOUND THAT EVERY DOLLAR SPENT ON PRENATAL WIC PARTICIPATION FOR LOW INCOME MEDICAID WOMEN IN FIVE STATES RESULTED IN LONGER PREGNANCIES, FEWER PREMATURE BIRTHS, LOWER INCIDENTS OF MODERATELY LOW AND VERY LOW BIRTH WEIGHT INFANTS, FEWER INFANT DEATHS, AND A GREATER LIKELIHOOD OF RECEIVING PRENATAL CARE, CREATING SAVINGS AND HEALTHCARE COSTS FROM $1 AND 77 CENTS TO $3 AND 13 CENTS WITHIN THE FIRST 60 DAYS AFTER BIRTH.

SO, GET TO SEE A LOT MORE BABIES SURVIVE AND HAVE BETTER PRENATAL CARE AND MOTHERS GETTING A LOT BETTER PRENATAL CARE AND LEARNING THE NUTRITION FOR THEIR CHILDREN.

THE NEXT ONE IS A LOT OF EVERYTHING WE DO.

SO SINCE YOU GUYS WILL GET THIS POWERPOINT, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH EVERYTHING.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE DO A LOT AND A LOT OF THESE THINGS DO NOT PRODUCE NUMBERS AND DO NOT PRODUCE REVENUE, BUT IT'S THINGS WE DO DO FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WE'RE MANDATED TO DO THESE.

AND WITH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE DO PROVIDE, IT ACTUALLY SHOWS EVERYTHING THAT WE DO DO.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DON'T DO.

LIKE WE DON'T DO SHELLFISH HERE, OBVIOUSLY, 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT ON THE OCEAN , BUT THERE ARE DISTRICTS THAT DO DEAL WITH SHELLFISH.

UM, FOR WARREN COUNTY, FOR THE FY 23 YEAR, WE HAD 2,574 CLINICAL VISITS WITH 2016 UNDUPLICATED CLIENT VISITS.

WE SAW 4,215 WIC VISITS AND WE INVESTIGATED AND GO AHEAD.

SO A CLINICAL VISIT IS, SAY IF I COME IN, I MIGHT COME IN FOUR TIMES A YEAR AND UNDUPLICATED ME IS, YOU'RE

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COUNTING ME ONCE, EVEN IF I COME IN FOUR TIMES, YOU'RE SEEING ME ONCE COUNTING POUND, COUNTING ME ONCE AS ONE UNDUPLICATED.

HE'S NOT UNDERSTANDING.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT THIS WAY, SO LET'S SAY, UM, LET'S SAY A REALLY, REALLY YOUNG CHILD NEEDS TO COME VISIT US FOUR TIMES IN THEIR FIRST YEAR TO GET VACCINATIONS IN THAT FIRST NUMBER, THAT 2,574, WE'RE COUNTING ALL FOUR OF THOSE VISITS IN THAT SECOND NUMBER.

WE'RE JUST COUNTING THE PERSON, NOT THE VISIT.

OKAY.

BUT I, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THEN YOU DON'T HAVE THAT MOOD.

YEAH, AND I WOULD SAY A LOT OF THE TIME WHEN YOU HAVE, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU HAVE A BABY, RIGHT? YOU'RE TYPICALLY CONNECTED TO A PRIMARY CARE PROVIDER.

AND SO YOU WOULD TYPICALLY BE GOING TO THAT PRIMARY CARE PROVIDER.

WE'RE TYPICALLY A SAFETY NET PROVIDER.

SO WE MAY BE SEEING, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE NUMBERS ARE COMING FROM FAMILY PLANNING VISITS.

SOMEONE MAY COME TO US ONCE A YEAR TO GET, YOU KNOW, TO GET THEIR BIRTH CONTROL.

AND THEN WE SEE THEM AGAIN THE NEXT YEAR.

UM, WE SEE A LOT OF SEVENTH GRADERS, A LOT OF 12TH GRADERS TO GET THOSE SCHOOL REQUIRED VACCINATIONS.

WE SEE A LOT OF ADULTS GETTING THEIR FLU SHOTS ONCE A YEAR AND COVID SHOTS ONCE A YEAR.

SO A LOT OF SERVICES THAT WE DO PROVIDE ARE, CAN BE A MORE ANNUAL TYPE OF SERVICE.

BUT, UM, IN OUR FAMILY PLANNING CLINIC OR OUR SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED INFECTION CLINIC, WE MAY SEE PATIENTS THAT COME BACK MULTIPLE TIMES OR IF WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE SEE FOR EXAMPLE LIKE REFUGEE, UH, REFUGEES THAT ARE NEWLY ARRIVING TO THE COUNTRY.

THEY MAY COME BACK TO SEE US TWICE, UM, BASED UPON, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT INFORMATION SHOWS OR WHAT VACCINES THEY NEED TO GET CAUGHT UP ON OR WHATEVER IT IS.

SO IT KIND OF DEPENDS.

WE KIND OF DO A MIX OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF SERVICES.

SO WE DO HAVE SOME REPEAT VISITORS DURING THE YEAR, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT REALLY COME FOR THAT KIND OF ONCE A YEAR SERVICE.

GREAT QUESTION.

IT IS A, IT'S A CONFUSING QUESTION THAT'S FOR SURE.

, UM, AND WE'VE INVESTIGATED AND PROCESSED, UH, 635 ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH ANIMAL BITES APPLICATIONS FOR WELLS AND SEPTIC AND COMPLAINTS.

BUT ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DO THAT ARE NOT IN THOSE NUMBERS.

SO WE DO VITAL RECORDS.

SO WE DO BIRTH, DEATH, MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE.

WE DO PERMITTING FOR TEMPORARY FOOD EVENTS, RESTAURANTS, CAMPGROUNDS, SUMMER CAMPS AND HOTELS.

WE HANDLE COMMUNICABLE DISEASE INVESTIGATIONS.

WE DO COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

WE DO EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AND RESPONSE.

AND AS SHE MENTIONED, THE REFUGEE HEALTH SCREENINGS THAT ARE SETTLED INTO WARREN COUNTY.

AND WE'VE DEFINITELY SEEN AN INCREASE IN THOSE RESTAURANT .

THAT VERY RARELY HAPPENS.

YES.

UM, BUT WE DO WORK WITH THE RESTAURANTS AND OUR GOAL IN REALLY WORKING WITH THE RESTAURANTS IS HELPING THEM LEARN SAFE FOOD HANDLING TECHNIQUES.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE, OUR GOAL IS TO BE A PARTICIPATORY SUPPORTIVE AGENCY IN HELPING THEM LEARN THOSE TECHNIQUES VERSUS BEING SUPER, YOU KNOW, REPERCUSSION.

BUT WE DO WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE SAFE AND KNOW THAT WHEN THEY GO TO A RESTAURANT THAT THEY ARE RECEIVING, UH, FOOD THAT'S BEEN PREPARED APPROPRIATELY AND SAFELY.

WE'RE NOT THE FOOD POLICE, WE'RE, WE'RE THE FOOD ASSISTANCE .

AND THAT'S THE GOAL.

AND, AND WE DO THOSE ANNUALLY.

AND, AND IF THERE IS A COMPLAINT, WE, WE GO OUT THEN.

SO THERE, IT'S, IT'S AN ONGOING, IT'S AN ONGOING, UM, JOB.

AND WE HAVE A LOT OF STAFF WHO JUST CONCENTRATE ON THE FOOD .

MM-HMM.

.

YES.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ANIMAL BITES.

UHHUH .

UM, DO PEOPLE, IF THEY'RE BITTEN, DO THEY COME TO YOU FOR RABIES UH, TREATMENT OR DO THEY, DO YOU REFER 'EM TO THE HOSPITAL OR IT, IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF PROCESS TO THE RABIES THING.

AND I WILL LET YOU HANDLE THIS PART BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT STEPS TO IT.

YOU DON'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS NEED A VACCINE.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, A LOT OF TIMES FOR THE, THE OFFICIAL, THE FIRST ONE WE DO SEND TO THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE ONE.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT WE USUALLY DO THE FOLLOW-UP, UH, POST-EXPOSURE VACCINES BECAUSE IT'S A LOT CHEAPER TO COME TO US FOR THE POST EXPOSURE.

OKAY.

AND JUST CURIOUS, HAVE YOU SEEN AN UPTICK OF THAT IN THE LAST YEAR? NOT REALLY.

NOT IN THE LAST YEAR.

I'D SAY IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT THE SAME.

OKAY.

THANKS.

YEAH.

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YES.

UP CALL, WHETHER IT WAS, WE, WE CALL UP WITH THE HO THE WHOEVER'S ANIMAL IT WAS AND WHOEVER IT BIT, SO IT'S, IT'S TWO, IT'S TWO PHASE.

SO IT'S KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, BUT IT'S ALSO MEDICAL.

SO THEY WORK TOGETHER.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THERE? ALL RIGHT.

NUMBER THREE.

WE CAN SAY NO .

UM, WE DON'T HAVE A RESERVE.

WE ARE A ZERO BUDGET AND AS WE EXPLAIN, WE GIVE IT BACK OR WE CARRY FORWARD.

UM, IF, IF WOULD NEED BE, UM, FOR THE INCREASE, THERE IS A SLIGHT INCREASE THIS YEAR.

AND THE REASON WE DID THAT IS WE'RE, UM, GETTING A BETTER METRICS ON HOW TO REQUEST IT.

AND AS A, AS YOU HEARD ME SAY, WE'RE USING SOME OF THE CARRY FORWARD TO MATCH THE STATE FUNDS.

SO WE DIDN'T ASK FOR ENOUGH LAST YEAR.

UM, WE HAVE A PLAN NOW OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, IT'S BEEN ABOUT 5% INCREASE WITH THE, THE STATE COOPERATIVE BUDGET.

SO WE'VE ADJUSTED, UM, TO ASK FOR THAT.

BUT IT COULD GO UP OR DOWN BASED ON WHAT THE STATE ACTUALLY GIVES US.

SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT THE GENERAL FUND IS APPRO APPROPRIATED TO US.

SO WHAT NUMBER DO YOU HAVE FOR THIS YEAR'S ALLOCATION? THAT IS, SO FOR THE CURRENT YEAR OR THE UPCOMING YEAR? THIS YEAR.

TODAY, CURRENT YEAR'S.

GOING BACK TO THE, YOUR FIRST PAGE.

YEP.

MY FIRST PAGE, I'M GONNA GO BACK, BACK THERE.

PART OF LOCATION, PART OF CARRY.

RIGHT.

SO TO GET THE STATE GENERAL FUND, WE HAD IT'S 568,109, THE STATE.

AND YOUR ALL'S WAS THE 464,816.

I'M GONNA GET TO, OKAY, SO THE 4 6 4, THE NUMBER THAT THE COUNTY ALLOCATED.

SO THE DIFFERENCE, THE CARRYOVER, YES.

THAT'S PART OF IT.

PART OF IT IS THE, LIKE, I THINK IT'S LIKE 8,000.

UM, IT'S THE DIFFERENCE THERE.

THAT WAS THE CARRY FORWARD FOR LOCAL MATCH.

AND THEN THERE WAS OTHER LOCAL MATCH WE USED FOR THE STATE.

AM I SAYING THAT CORRECTLY? SO WE, WE USED DOLLARS THAT WERE FROM FY 23 THAT WERE UNSPENT TO MEET THE OBLIGATION OF THE STATE MATCH FOR FY 24 THAT WERE SAVINGS, THAT WAS WHAT I'M CALLING MATERIALS.

YEP.

AND THERE'S, AND THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD SEVERAL MONTHS AGO? YES.

WE HAD HAD TO JUGGLE US ABOUT IT A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT IT WAS IN THERE.

AND HOW MUCH WAS THAT? SO HERE, THIS IS PROBABLY A BETTER, 'CAUSE WE HAD SO MUCH WE USED FOR THE STATE, AND THEN WE USED SO MUCH FOR THE ACTUAL A HUNDRED PERCENT.

SO THE AMOUNT THAT YOU ALL PROVIDED YOU GAVE US THE APPROVAL TO CARRY FORWARD $91,216 IN MATCHING FUNDS.

AND THEN PREVIOUSLY YOU ALL HAD ALSO PROVIDED US WITH SOME 100% LOCAL ONLY FUNDS.

SO THOSE WERE UNMATCHED FUNDS.

AND THAT WAS $5,644.

IT WAS CARRIED FORWARD.

AND THOSE WERE USED TO MEET THE COOPERATIVE MATCH THIS YEAR TO DRAW DOWN ALL OF THE STATE FUNDS THAT WERE ALLOCATED.

SO IF I ADD THOSE TOGETHER, I'M GONNA GET, UH, OUT 4, 6 4.

YES.

4 64.

$816.

OKAY.

I MISSED A LITTLE, BUT I GOT 96.

BUT 4 64 SIR, IS WHAT WE GAVE THEM.

INCLUDING THE 91 FROM THE PRIOR YEAR.

YES, CORRECT.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANYTHING WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE WE'RE NOT PLANNING IT FROM BASED ON WHAT WE'RE EXP EXPECTING FOR EXPENDITURES? PROJECTING NO OBJECTING THAT WE'LL HAVE NO CARRY FORWARD BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS YEAR, LAST 90,000? THE EMPLOYMENT AND TURNOVER.

TURNOVER.

WHAT? TURNOVER, THAT'S THE, OH, GO AHEAD.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT LEAVE THE ORGANIZATION, UM, SO THAT GENERATES WHAT WE CALL TURNOVER SAVINGS.

AND SO DUE TO NOT PAYING THEIR SALARIES.

CORRECT.

'CAUSE THAT'S PERSONNEL'S BENEFITS, ALL THAT.

OKAY.

NOW YOU HAVE .

MM-HMM.

.

WELL, THAT'S THE HONESTY.

DIDN'T HAVE IT, WERE ABLE TO PUT

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IT.

YES.

OKAY.

WHICH WAS VERY BENEFICIAL THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE APPROVAL TO CARRY FORWARD, TO GET US THROUGH THIS YEAR WITH THE, WITH, WE'VE DONE REALLY HARD RECRUITING THIS YEAR.

AND WE'RE REALLY, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE A FULL STAFF IN WARREN COUNTY.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

I MEAN, WITH COVID, WHAT WAS IT REALLY CHANGED? WHAT HAPPENED? NEGATIVE, POSITIVE, HOW MANY, WHAT HAPPENED WHEN YOU DIDN'T HAVE THOSE PEOPLE? WHAT WAS THE DOWNFALL? WHAT WAS THE DOWNSIDE? YEAH.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKING THAT, YEAH.

YEAH.

SO I THINK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH NATIONWIDE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, UM, WE REALLY WERE HAVING TO SHIFT COURSE AND THE SERVICES WE WERE PROVIDING IN THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? SO, UM, WE DON'T NECESSARILY PROVIDE THE LEVEL OF, UM, IMMUNIZATIONS AND VACCINATIONS LIKE WE DID DURING COVID.

UH, THERE WEREN'T, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY BARRIERS LIKE WE ALL FACED DURING COVID.

AND I THINK TOO, JUST THE, THE LEVEL OF STRESS THAT IT PUT ON PUBLIC HEALTH EMPLOYEES, UM, NATIONWIDE HAS CREATED A LOT OF TURNOVER.

SO LIKE EVERYWHERE, WE'VE ALSO EXPERIENCED THAT DUE TO THAT THE, THE STRESS, THE BURNOUT, THE, THE PUBLIC REACTION AND THAT IMPACT ON OUR EMPLOYEES.

SO, UM, WE'RE WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY TO GET BACK UP TO SPEED.

BUT I THINK TOO, WE'RE SEEING THAT THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING FOR DIFFERENT SERVICES FROM US.

UH, SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE NOTICING ARE, UM, ARE PRE-ADMISSION SCREENINGS.

UH, WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN THOSE.

SO INDIVIDUALS LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, UM, QUALIFY FOR MEDICAID.

THEY ARE ABLE TO RECEIVE BENEFITS TO PROVIDE THEM WITH OPPORTUNITIES TO POTENTIALLY BE ABLE TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES INSTEAD OF GOING INTO A LONG-TERM CARE FACILITY.

AND SO WE DO THAT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH SOCIAL SERVICES.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE SERVICES WHERE WE'RE SEEING IT ACTUALLY AN INCREASE.

UM, WITH SOME OF THE TEMPORARY MEDICAID FUNDING THAT HAPPENED, UM, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE COUNTRY, UH, WE SAW LESS PEOPLE, FOR EXAMPLE, COMING TO US FOR FAMILY PLANNING SERVICES BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO GO TO A PRIVATE, A PRIVATE PROVIDER.

AND WE WERE NO LONGER, YOU KNOW, FILLING THAT SAFETY NET ROLE.

SO THE, THE SERVICES WE'RE PROVIDING ARE CHANGING, SORT OF BASED UPON WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING FROM US.

UM, WE'VE SEEN A HUGE INCREASE IN ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, UM, BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS HOME, PEOPLE WERE BUILDING.

UH, AND SO WE HAVE THAT PERMITTING PROCESS THAT WE'RE INVOLVED IN, ESPECIALLY RELATED TO SEPTIC AND WELL, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN A BIG INCREASE IN THOSE SORTS OF RESPONSIBILITIES FOR OUR STAFF.

UH, RESTAURANTS HAVE STAYED PRETTY PRETTY LEVEL.

IT HASN'T SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED.

UM, BUT I'M HOPING THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

WELL, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS WHAT, WHAT LEVEL THAT RESULT? MONEY NOT SPENT.

MM-HMM.

NEXT YEAR.

THAT SEEMS GOOD.

UH, NOW THE WHOLE TIME BACK UP, THE ESSENTIAL CUSTOMER IS WHAT DETERMIN HOW MANY? SO I CAN SAY DURING OUR VACANCY TIME, WE WERE MOVING PEOPLE FROM OFFICE TO OFFICE TO COVER CLINICS SO THAT WE CAN KEEP CLINICS RUNNING.

AND SO IF WE'RE DOING THAT, WE CAN'T PROVIDE ALL THE SERVICES.

'CAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO, I HATE TO SAY ROB PETER, TO PAY PAUL, BUT WE'RE USING STAFF TO DO THAT.

SO NOW WE CAN BE STRONGER.

I, I WILL TELL YOU WARREN COUNTY IS PROBABLY, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST THINGS IN WARREN COUNTY.

AND WE NEED MORE HELP IN THAT AREA TO KEEP UP WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN BOOMING HERE IN MORTON COUNTY.

SO, FOR ME, AT LEAST FOR BUSINESS OFFICE THAT I, THAT'S WHO I DEAL WITH.

I'VE LITERALLY BEEN DOWN TO LIKE ONE PERSON IN THAT OFFICE WITH SUPERVISORS AND OTHER STAFF TRYING TO HELP COVER, AND I'M PULLING THEM AWAY.

LIKE, I HAVE ONE PERSON WHO'S A PROGRAMS CORE TECH.

I'VE BEEN PULLING THAT PERSON AWAY FROM ONE JOB TO HELP WITH CLINICS.

SO IT'S JUST TRYING TO MOVE PEOPLE AROUND.

WE'VE HAD PEOPLE FROM OTHER OFFICES TO HELP WITH, EH, THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING BACKLOGGED ON APPLICATIONS.

'CAUSE PEOPLE WE HAVE, WE WANNA GET THEM GOING.

WE WANNA GET THEM BUILDING WHEN THEY CAN.

SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY, THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE ON IT.

I THINK THAT'S VERY TRUE.

AND I THINK IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE BECAUSE OUR STAFF FEEL TOTALLY BURNT OUT.

YEAH.

WHICH IS THEN CREATING THAT FURTHER IMPACT OF PEOPLE FEELING LIKE, I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T KEEP DOING IT IN THIS WAY.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

I'M DR.

S UH, QUESTION ON THAT.

HOW MANY, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE YOU HAVE COME TO YOU OR YOU REALIZE THEY ? SO, PUBLIC HEALTH'S ROLE IS TO REALLY PROVIDE SAFETY NET SERVICES.

SO, UM, TYPICALLY WE ARE PROVIDING SERVICES AT LEAST IN THE, MORE, IN THE CLINICAL HEALTH SERVICES AREA FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE SERVICES.

OTHERWISE, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT COME TO US BECAUSE, UM, WE'RE THE ONLY ONES IN TOWN THAT PROVIDE

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A CERTAIN TYPE OF SERVICE.

SO WE DO A LOT OF OCCUPATIONAL TB ASSESSMENTS FOR TUBERCULOSIS.

UM, WE, WE DO ALL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE IN THIS COUNTY, BUT WE, WE EVEN INSPECT MILK PLANTS.

WE DO SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN PUBLIC HEALTH IS WORKING WELL, PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES.

LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT RABIES EARLIER.

RIGHT? THAT'S ONE DISEASE THAT'S REQUIRED BY LAW THAT YOU MUST REPORT TO US.

AND WHEN WE GET THAT INFORMATION, WE DO A FULL SCALE INVESTIGATION.

THERE ARE A LOT OF DISEASES THAT ARE REPORTED TO US.

I WISH I COULD EVEN TELL YOU HOW MANY , UM, BUT A TON.

UM, AND SO WE HAVE EPIDEMIOLOGISTS AND NURSES, UM, AND A D DISEASE INVESTIGATION SPECIALIST THAT ARE DOING THIS WORK EVERY DAY ALL DAY LONG.

BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE BEHIND THE SCENES, RIGHT? WHERE PUBLIC FACING THE THINGS OUR COMMUNITY SEES, OUR, OUR FAMILY PLANNING SERVICES AND OUR STI SERVICES AND THAT WE INSPECT YOUR RESTAURANTS.

BUT THERE'S ALL THESE THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN PUBLIC HEALTH BEHIND THE SCENES TO KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE, UM, ALL THE TIME.

AND THAT'S REALLY THE BEDROCK IN THE FOUNDATION OF WHAT PUBLIC HEALTH IS.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE DON'T HAVE STAFF, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, SO RESTAURANTS, DEPENDING ON THEIR COMPLEXITY, AND THE COMPLEXITY IS BASED UPON HOW FOOD IS PREPARED.

WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO INSPECT THEM BASED UPON RISK.

SO LET'S SAY A RESTAURANT IS REALLY HIGH RISK BASED ON HOW THEY PREPARE FOOD.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO INSPECT THEM FOUR TIMES A YEAR.

IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO INSPECT THEM FOUR TIMES A YEAR, WE CAN'T INSPECT THEM FOUR TIMES A YEAR.

UM, WHICH THEN REDUCES OUR ABILITY TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY AS SAFE.

RIGHT? I GET THE PICTURE OF, OF WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE SHORTHAND.

MM-HMM.

WHAT REALLY, WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO, I THINK IS DO YOU HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, , UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I GOT IT, BUT IT TOOK A BIT OF TIME.

MM-HMM.

DIDN'T, WASN'T PUT OUT.

DIDN'T RIGHT AWAY.

RIGHT.

NEVERTHELESS, UM, FOR JOB, IS THERE, IS THERE AN UNDERSTANDING OF, UM, THAT JOB DESCRIPTION CAN DO 10 OF THOSE A WEEK OR 20 OF THOSE A WEEK OR WHATEVER? AND THEN THERE ARE, THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU BASICALLY HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE MM-HMM.

.

YEP.

BUT WHO IS TO KNOW WHAT'S THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE? YES.

BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE, WE COULD SAY HIRE AN EXTRA PEOPLE .

YEAH.

YEAH.

WE'LL STILL ALL BE BUSY.

RIGHT? THE STATE PROVIDES US WITH SOME OF THOSE METRICS.

UM, AND SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH.

AND LIKE WE USE DIFFERENT NATIONAL THINGS.

SO I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE THE FDA TELLS US BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF RESTAURANTS YOU HAVE AND THEIR COMPLEXITY, HOW MANY FOOD INSPECTORS YOU SHOULD HAVE.

SO THERE'S NATIONAL RESOURCES.

WE USE TO HELP DRIVE THE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS.

CAN I TELL YOU, WE'RE UNDERSTAFFED BASED UPON THE FUNDING WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND I WILL SAY, I, I THINK NOT RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM.

.

BUT WHAT I MORE WANNA KNOW IS IF YOU HAVE A HANDLE ON THE ORGANIZATION, HOW DO I KNOW HOW MANY TO BE EXPECTED TO DO? UH, BUT YOU TOO.

AND, AND SAME WITH ALL THE OTHER JOBS.

SO IF YOU SAY, WELL, WE'RE SHORTHANDED THAT, THAT'S MORE THAN JUST THELOCAL.

I DUNNO.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND I AGREE WITH THAT.

SO THE ONE THING I WILL SAY THAT, LIKE, ON THE MEDICAL SIDE OF THINGS, THAT'S HARD TO DO BECAUSE YOU DO DIFFERENT SERVICES WHICH TAKE DIFFERENT, EACH ONE TAKES A DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF TIME AND WHAT THE EXTRA AND STILL NEED.

AND IT DEPENDS ON THAT.

SO YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S, YOU USE THAT INFORMATION TO REALLY BUILD A CLINICAL SCHEDULE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

BASED UPON THE TYPES OF PATIENTS YOU'RE SEEING.

AND THEN YOU HAVE TO ADD COMPLEXITY IN THAT BASED UPON, YOU KNOW, DO PEOPLE SPEAK A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE OR, UM, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE SERVICE IS.

OR FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT OUR REFUGEE FAMILIES THAT ARE COMING IN, WE FREQUENTLY HAVE FAMILIES OF 5, 6, 5 TO 10 PEOPLE.

RIGHT? SO WHEN YOU MAKE AN APPOINTMENT FOR A FAMILY, IF IT'S THREE PEOPLE VERSUS 10 PEOPLE, THAT LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT.

BUT YEAH, WE, WE USE METRICS LIKE THAT AND WE USE THOSE METRICS TO DRIVE OUR CLINICAL SCHEDULES.

I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT GETS TRANSLATED INTO WHAT WE GET PRESENTED.

MORE CONCISE DATA, THE BETTER.

ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

WE'RE WORKING ON BUILDING REALLY WELL THOUGHT OUT METRICS.

AND I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE OCTOBER 25TH, SO TWO MONTHS AND I GUESS ABOUT A WEEK.

YEAH.

I'M EXCITED, LIKE I SAID, EXCITED TO WORK WITH HER BECAUSE SHE DOES HAVE THAT BACKGROUND AND METRICS AND THINGS.

AND FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO EVEN DIG INTO

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THE DEEP, WE'VE BEEN DIGGING INTO COVID, AND DIGGING OUT OF COVID, SO, MM-HMM.

.

BUT THOSE ARE GREAT INSIGHTS FOR US.

OKAY.

GOOD.

ALRIGHT, , I THINK, I THINK THAT'S ALL MY SLIDES.

YEP.

AND IT WAS GREAT TO MEET YOU ALL TONIGHT.

AND YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S OTHER INFORMATION THAT WE CAN BRING, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

UM, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY TO SHARE THING, YOU KNOW, THINGS GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY, OR IF THERE'S SOME SPECIFIC HEALTH TOPIC THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN KNOWING MORE ABOUT, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

WE'RE ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO COME AND SHARE MORE INFORMATION.

OKAY.

JUST IN TERMS OF THAT POTENTIAL CARRYOVER, I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROJECTING NOW, UH, BASICALLY HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR THAT THERE WON'T BE ANYTHING.

YES.

SO, SO YOU CAME HERE IN OCTOBER, WHERE'D YOU COME FROM? SURE.

SO I WAS THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OVER IN LOUDOUN COUNTY IN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

AND THEN PRIOR TO THAT I WAS THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR PUBLIC HEALTH IN NORAM, NORTH CAROLINA.

SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE SO STEPPING UP, INCHING UP.

YES.

YEAH.

AND I'VE ALSO WORKED IN THE BLUE RIDGE HEALTH DISTRICT, UH, FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS.

AND THAT'S WHEN I WAS IN LEANNE'S POSITION.

UM, SO THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S NEAR CHARLOTTESVILLE.

SO, YOU KNOW, HAVE EXPERIENCE, EXPERIENCE WORKING IN A, YOU KNOW, MORE RURAL FIVE COUNTY, ONE CITY SORT OF HEALTH DISTRICT.

SO I'M LOSING, USING A LOT OF THOSE EXPERIENCES AND REALLY BRINGING THAT HERE TO, AND SHE'S ALSO GOT EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS TOO.

I'M GONNA TOOT HER HORN FOR HER .

SO WE, WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT PEOPLE LEAVING OUR COUNTY AND GOING TO LOUDOUN FOR MORE MONEY, BUT WHAT MADE YOU DO THE OPPOSITE AND COME HERE FROM LOUDOUN? WELL, I WANTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A HEALTH DIRECTOR.

UM, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, MY INTEREST IS REALLY IN WORKING WITH POPULATIONS THAT ARE UNDERSERVED.

UH, AND I FEEL LIKE THIS AREA, UM, CAN BENEFIT MORE FROM MY EXPERTISE AND MY EXPERIENCE.

UH, AND IT WAS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY AND THE STAFF IN LORD FAIRFAX ARE SO DEDICATED, UH, THAT IT REALLY MADE IT AN EASY CHOICE TO MAKE FOR ME.

MM-HMM.

.

AND ON THE AMER, SORRY TO REOPEN THE QUESTIONS.

UM, ON THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS SIDE, DO YOU COORDINATE, 'CAUSE WE HAVE, UH, LIKE BRIAN FOLEY FOR EXAMPLE IN THE COUNTY.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU COORDINATE WITH HIM ON THOSE PLANS AND SO FORTH.

YEP.

YEAH, WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS PLANNER.

SHE'S A HUNDRED PERCENT GRANT FUNDED.

HER NAME'S OLIVIA WATSON AND SHE WORKS REALLY CLOSELY WITH HIM ON BUILDING EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS PLANS.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

.

I EVEN WORK WITH HIM SO THAT I GET ALERTS FOR THE WEATHER.

.

UM, JUST ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ADD BEFORE WE WALK AWAY, I JUST WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGREEMENT SIGNATURES.

UM, IS THAT, Y'ALL GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT TONIGHT AS FAR AS GETTING THAT SIGNED? I JUST NEED TO LET RICHMOND KNOW.

YEAH.

THAT NEEDS TO BE ON YOUR NEXT AGENDA FOR SIX 16TH.

THAT'S THE ANNUAL AGREEMENT.

THAT IS 1ST OF JULY .

AND IT'S NOW THIS LITTLE JANUARY.

I KNOW WHAT IT IS, .

AND IT, IT CONFIRMS WHAT WE APPROPRIATED THIS YEAR.

THE THREE, UM, 3 73 THERE IS WHAT IT DOES.

AND THAT IS A, IT'S AN EXTENSIVE DOCUMENT TALKING ABOUT THERE AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE GET A COPY OF IT OUT TO YOU IMMEDIATELY.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN GET THEM OVER TO AGAIN.

WOULD YOU, LET ME LEAVE YOU THIS ONE? YOU CAN JUST MAKE COPIES.

SURE, SURE.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.

HAPPY NEW YEAR.

THANK YOU.

AND I WANNA GIVE A SHOUT TO DONALD SHACK FOR THE MAINTENANCE CREW 'CAUSE THEY'RE FANTASTIC.

.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MEET YOU.

THAT CONCLUDES THE PARTNER AGENCY.

UM, GOING SOME CARS.

SO I'LL JUST REAL QUICK REMIND YOU I WAS DOING BEFORE ON THE SCHEDULE IS TO REMIND YOU THAT ON THE 23RD WE WILL SEND BACK AND SEND YOU A SCHEDULE AT FIVE O'CLOCK FOR AN EMPLOYEE AWARD SERVICE AWARD TO DO THAT BEFORE YOUR MEETING STARTS WITH THE ON CALENDAR.

ON THE CALENDAR CALENDAR.

IS THERE A SEPARATE BOARD CALENDAR? THE FACT HE'S ASKING THAT THERE IS A SEPARATE BOARD SHARED CALENDAR

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FOR THE SCHEDULE? UH, NO.

THE UM, AND ALSO IF IT'S FEASIBLE FOR THEM TO HAVE THEIR OWN SHARED CALENDAR ON WELL, I WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE, OR, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I'VE PUT ALL ON MY OWN CALENDAR.

I CALENDAR AND YOU HONOR, AND YEAH.

AND THE CLOSEST THING TO THAT IS THE EVENTS THE RESIDENTS HAVE AND THOSE SHOW UP AS I CREATE THE EVENTS ON THE BACK END.

YEAH.

AND THEN THEY'LL SHOW UP THERE THAT WELL, WE CAN EXPLORE THIS BECAUSE I, THIS THAT'S I STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

OKAY.

I, I AGREE WITH RICH ON THAT.

THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.

YEAH.

AND IT IS, UM, 'CAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE BEAST AND HE'S VERY FLEXIBLE BECAUSE, UH, HOUSE OF HOPE COULDN'T BE HERE FOR YEAH.

BECAUSE OF ILLNESS.

SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO TALK ABOUT PRIORITIES AND WHAT SHE WANNA DO.

IT'S ALL FLEXIBLE AND I PUBLISHED IT.

I LITERALLY, YEAH.

WELL, WELL THIS IS MORE, THIS MORE ALONG THE LINES AND THEN BACK TO THE, YOU HAVE A SHEET LIKE THIS OF YOU THAT, UH, AS MR. COOKS AND MR. MEYERS, UH, RANKINGS ON YOUR RATINGS, ALL OTHER RANKINGS.

AND THEN YOU HAVE, AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, CHAIRMAN COLOR GAVE THIS EVENING, THIS IS FIVE PAGES HERE.

MY JUST ABOUT FIVE PAGES WITH A CLIP ON IT RIGHT IN FRONT THERE.

THIS NOT THIS NO, LIKE, LIKE THIS PUT ON YOUR PLACE.

IT, SO THESE ARE, UM, YES.

SO THESE ARE NOT THIS, SOME OF IT CAN BE INCORPORATED.

WELL, I LY HAVE NOT, UH, BEEN ON THE ON EXACTLY.

WELL, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THE, THE WAY THAT WE ARE ARE ASSESSING PRIORITIZE.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA WORK WITH ANYBODY ELSE.

AND SO I NOTICED THAT WITH, UH, WITH, UH, MS BOOK AND WITH, UH, MR. MEYER THAT I THINK THAT THEY TOOK, UH, INSTEAD OF SAYING ONE THROUGH 10, THEY KIND OF STRATIFIED.

THEY SAID, OKAY,

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OKAY, I, SO I JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, IMPORTANT INPUT.

UM, BECAUSE MANY BE ASPIRATIONS, SOME OF THEM ARE MORE LIKE A BISHOP.

YEAH.

LIKE ENHANCED PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

THAT'S THAT THE THING NOT THE SAME AS FINISHING THE BOAT.

RIGHT.

SO IT'S A QUESTION FOR PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD PREVIOUSLY.

UH, WHAT'S, HOW MANY PEOPLE, HOW MANY AM I LOOKING AT? 20 THINGS HERE, OR 25 OR SOMETHING? THESE CAN'T, WE CAN'T HAVE 25 PLUS GOALS IN MY OPINION.

I THINK WE, THE PAST IS WE HAD THIS LIST AND THEN WE PICKED FIVE.

SO WE WANTED MAKE SURE WE GOT DONE IN THIS YEAR WITH THAT.

NORMALLY WHAT YOU WOULD DO IS YOU KIND OF RANK THESE HIGH, MEDIUM, AND LOW.

OKAY.

STRATIFIED THEN THE LOWS MOVED OFF THE FRONT PAGE.

OKAY.

AND THEN YOU LOOKED AT THE HIGHS IN THE MEDIUMS AND WENT THROUGH IT AGAIN, AND A BUNCH CAME OFF THE FRONT PAGE SO THAT YOU END UP WITH FIVE TO 10 THAT ARE DOABLE OR THAT YOU CAN MAKE PROGRESS ON THIS NEXT YEAR.

YEAH.

I HAVE A A, A PREFERENCE FOR A SYSTEM THAT TAKES THAT STRATA AND PUTS IN, INTO THE FAR LEFT AT THE TOP PRIORITIES.

MAYBE IT'S FIVE OR SIX OR 10, AND THEN PUTS THE NEXT FIVE.

WE CALL 'EM OVER AND THE NEXT FIVE WE CALL THEM OVER.

MM-HMM.

.

SO, SO ANYTHING THAT'S GETTING DONE AS A MATTER OF PRIORITY SHOULD BE IN THAT FIRST COLUMN.

YES.

IF IT'S, IF IT'S BEING PASSED SOMETHING THAT'S BEING PASSED OVER IN THAT FIRST COLUMN TO SPEND TIME AND RESEARCHERS ON THE SECOND OR THIRD COLUMN, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO.

SO, SO, SO THAT'S CORRECT.

AND I'M JUST CALLING IT PAGES, BUT THE SAME CAP CATEGORIES, UH, RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, OKAY.

SO IT'S A, IT'S A TECHNIQUE, BUT IT'S A LEFT OR RIGHT TECHNIQUE INSTEAD OF LIKE WORK YOUR WAY DOWN THE LIST TECHNIQUE.

SO IF WE ADDED THESE THREE ONTO IT, THE PRIMARY GOAL, AND THEN YOU LOOKED AT THESE MORE AS A HIGH, MEDIUM AND LOW, YOU COULD START TO PUT THEM IN STRATUS.

MAYBE YOU ALSO HAD, YOU HAD A, A WRITTEN OUT THING AND I, I DIDN'T BRING IT.

OH, THAT'S OKAY.

I MADE SURE I USED IT WHEN I, ARE THEY IN HERE? ARE THEY INCORPORATED IN THE SPREAD? YEAH, THEY'RE IN HERE NOW.

YEAH, THEY ARE.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE THAT SCALE.

SO WE ALL 10 IS THE GREATEST PRIORITY.

SO ONE IS THE LEAST ON THAT TOGETHER.

AND IT ALSO LOOKS LIKE THAT THEY'RE ONLY USING EIGHT.

YEAH.

THE LOWEST WE HAVE IS FIVE.

BUT YEAH, I, I THINK GOING ALL THE WAY ONE THROUGH 10, IF YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY DOING A RANKING, HAVING ONE THROUGH 10 IS A LITTLE BIT MORE GRANULAR THAN, LIKE, WE COULD PROBABLY DO HIGH, MEDIUM, LOWER ONE THROUGH FIVE.

RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT I, THE SAME THING.

AND WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, WE ALL KNOW, OKAY, THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED.

BECAUSE

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IF I LOOK AT THIS WITHOUT THAT SCALE, I'M, I'M GOING MAKE AN ASSUMPTION, WHICH I DON'T LIKE, DO THAT.

THESE ARE THE PRIOR VERSUS ONE TO 5, 1 10 AND ONE'S THE LEASE, BUT THEN SOMETIMES IT, IT FLIPS THE OPPOSITE.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL THINKING AND DOING THE SAME THING.

AND SINCE WE'RE DISCUSSING FOR YOU, WE NEED TO GET THAT CLEAR.

MAYBE THAT WOULD BE EASIER IF YOU TOOK THESE AND JUST MADE THEM AN H AND M AND AN L MM-HMM.

.

AND THEN WE'LL CONSENT THEM TO US AND WE'LL CONSOLIDATE IT FOR YOU SO THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL OF IT.

OH, OKAY.

AND, UM, BE ABLE TO MOVE SOME OF THESE, IF YOU WILL.

UH, SOME OF THE THINGS WILL HAPPEN WITHOUT YOUR DOING ANYTHING.

MM-HMM.

IF, UM, EXAMPLE BEING ROCKLAND PARK HAS BEEN ON HERE AT DIFFERENT TIMES.

RIGHT.

AND IF THE FEDS GIVE US THE GRANT THAT, UH, MRS. TARN LOGAN HAS BEEN WORKING ON FOR US, AND WE ARE SUCCESSFUL WITH THAT GRANT, THEN THAT'S GOING MOVE INTO THE EXECUTION PHASE WITHOUT, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THE BOARD'S, THE BOARD'S GOING TO RECEIVE $2 MILLION FOR THE PROJECT AND IT KIND OF MOVES IT WHETHER AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT YOU WAS IMPORTANT TO, YOU WANTED TO PUT COUNTING MONEY INTO.

SO, BUT SOME OF THESE JUST NEED TO HAPPEN ON THEIR OWN WITH THE COUNTY ANYWAY.

YEAH.

COULD WE TAKE A MINUTE, UM, SO THAT IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS ON THE INTENT OR TO CLARIFY ANY OF THESE GOALS, UH, THAT THE PERSON WHO ADDED IT TO THE LIST COULD EXPLAIN WHAT THEY MEAN? UH, AND MY EXAMPLE WOULD BE, UM, ACCELERATED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

I PUT THAT AS A FIVE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS YET.

AND, UH, IT COULD MEAN ANYTHING FROM PAVE THE ENTIRE COUNTY TO, UH, SELL OFF THE EDA ASSETS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW? UM, YEAH.

YEAH.

WAS THAT ALREADY IN THERE FROM, FROM BEFORE OR IS THAT A NEW ONE THIS YEAR? UH, LEMME SEE WHERE IT'S HERE.

IT'S UNDER PROPOSED GOALS ABOUT, THAT'S, UM, YEAH, THAT, UM, SOMEONE HERE BRING THAT IN THIS YEAR.

IT'S ON THE PROPOSED NEW LIST.

I SEE WHERE IT'S AT.

SO SOMEONE DID, YEAH, I'M WONDERING BECAUSE IT WAS A PROPOSAL.

WELL, THERE WAS A PROPOSED NEW GOALS THE VERY FIRST TIME I SAW THIS, ANY OF US.

OKAY.

THEN SOMEBODY BROUGHT IT IN AT THE BEGINNING OF 23.

OKAY.

SO IT, IT WAS A NEW GOAL FROM SOME ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS A YEAR AGO.

SO THESE 23 UNDERWAY, ARE YOU PUT IN THIS SECTION BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE UNDER CLAIM.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

IS THERE ONE THAT'S MISSING ON HERE? IT'S THE PRIORITIES UNDERWAY.

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WE HAVE THE REVIEW COMMITTEE, UM, THAT NEEDS TO BE FORMED.

I WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEW YEAR.

WE HAD SO MUCH GOING ON WHEN IT WAS THE BOARD FINALLY DECIDED YES.

WE, SO I'D THAT WE CAN VOTE.

WELL, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UH, ISN'T THIS COUNTY PERSONNEL POLICY, THE, THE HANDBOOK THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO US FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL? THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS? YEAH.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THIS AT ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLETE BECAUSE OH NO, ABSOLUTELY.

I'M NOT TAKING THAT AWAY FROM ANYBODY.

I'M JUST SAYING AS FAR AS THIS, THIS, UH, THIS PRIORITY THAT WE'VE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE AT 95% COMPLETE.

SO IT'S A REVIEW COMMITTEE.

A REVIEW COMMITTEE TO DO THAT.

THE POLICIES, SO THE HANDBOOK THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO US BACK IN SEPTEMBER THAT I, THAT I'M LOOKING AT, IT IS A, UH, A FINAL DRAFT FOR AS, AS THE BOARD TO REVIEW AND APPROVE.

WE ARE LOOKING AT NOW BEFORE IT COMES TO THE BOARD TO APPROVE IT, TO HAVE A REVIEW COMMITTEE TO GO THROUGH THAT FINAL DRAFT BEFORE IT'S APPROVED.

IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU WANT? SO, OKAY.

WELL, I'VE ALREADY READ IT LIKE THREE TIMES, YOU KNOW, SO I WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE IN THAT REVIEW COMMITTEE TO DO THAT, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

I JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND.

SO WE'LL NOT PUT THAT ON JANUARY 16TH.

SO DOES, BUT EVERYONE HAS A COPY OF THE FINAL DRAFT.

EVERYONE HAS A COPY OF IT THAT THEY CAN READ.

SO HOW LONG ARE WE LOOKING AT THIS REVIEW PROCESS? A MONTH, TWO MONTHS? NO MORE THAN ONE MONTH OR TWO MONTHS.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

YEAH.

NO, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

OH, NO, ABSOLUTELY.

ESPECIALLY WITH THE, THE POLICIES HAVEN'T BEEN REVISED IN OVER 20 YEARS.

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HUH? READING IT.

YEAH.

IT'S, IT'S PRETTY BOIL A PLATE.

IT'S PRETTY MUCH BOIL A PLATE IF YOU EVER READ A, A HANDBOOK.

BUT I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND EVERYONE'S POSITION AND YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, UNTIL EVERYONE FEELS THAT THEY'VE DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND READING IT AND MAKING SURE THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT, I TOTALLY RESPECT THAT.

SO THAT'S A WORK IN PROCESS.

MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, SO FAR YOU HAVE FRONTLINE RES, WHAT'S THAT'S, UM, DIFFICULT THINGS BLOCKED ALTERNATE ROUTE.

WAS THAT LIKE A PERPETUAL PROJECT THAT'S ALWAYS ON THE NO.

OH, I'M SORRY.

.

NO, WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT, UM, BACK IN JANUARY OF LAST YEAR AT THE TOWN AND BOARD OF SUPERVISOR LIAISON MEETING, UH, WE AGREED AS THE TWO BOARDS THAT WE NEED TO, UH, LOOK AT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES THAT ARE OUT THERE FOR THE CITIZENS OUT ON THE SHORES.

AND THAT WAS RESULTING FROM A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, UM, REMARKS FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS SAYING THAT THEY DIDN'T, THEY DID NOT WANT THAT AREA TO BE DEVELOPED BECAUSE THEY WERE LANDLOCKED.

YEAH.

AND THE TRAIN BLOCKS IT FOR LENGTHY AMOUNTS OF TIME.

EXACTLY.

AND SO RESULTING FROM THOSE JUST, YOU KNOW, HERE IN OUR, UM, OUR CITIZENS BACK IN, UH, LAST YEAR IS THAT THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY DECIDED TO CREATE THIS, UM, UH, THIS COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT SH UH, SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS ON THIS.

AND, AND Y YEAH.

AND CHERYL KOHLER, UM, UH, IS THE CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE.

AND SO, UH, I JUST, UM, AN ONGOING, IT'S AN ONGOING, BUT IT, IT, BUT IT WAS PUT ON THE LIST OF JANUARY OF LAST YEAR.

I MEAN, IT TOOK US A WHILE TO GET THE NUMBER, A NUMBER OF HOW MUCH DEVELOPMENT.

WE QUITE, WHILE MANY DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY, THEY'RE, WE HAD A LOT OF GOOD CONVERSATIONS.

IT STILL, IT'S ONE OF THOSE SORT OF THINGS SLOWLY GOING ON IN THE BACK.

YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THEN, UH, THREE STAFF LEVELS FOR , IT STILL NEEDS, OH, GO AHEAD.

IT'S STILL ONGOING.

WE'RE NOT, UM, OH, IT'S A, YEAH, I THINK THEY HAVE A PLAN.

WELL, WELL, I THINK A LITTLE, YEAH.

WELL, IT'S, AND, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE STAFFING FOR FIRE AND RESCUE, IT REALLY, IT PERTAINS TO THE, UM, WHERE THE, WHERE THEY ARE TODAY, RIGHT?

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UH, THEY, THEY, SOME OF THE FIRE STATIONS DO NOT HAVE FULL-TIME CAREER STAFF THERE.

MM-HMM.

THAT THEY TOTALLY ARE DEPENDENT ON VOLUNTEER.

AND SO THERE ARE TIMES WHERE THERE MAY BE SOME CALLS THAT WILL, THAT THEY, UM, AT A FIRE STATION THAT'S NEAR TO THAT CALL CANNOT, CANNOT RESPOND BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE CAREER STAFF.

AND SO IT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO GO TO AN, UH, SEND THE CALL TO ANOTHER STATION.

AND SO, AND I BELIEVE THE, THE, THE MAIN GOAL IS TO HAVE CAREER STAFF AT ALL THE VOLUNTEER FIRE STATIONS.

RIGHT.

AT, UM, HAS THAT CHANGED OR UNDER INCREASE AND INCREASING STUFF ON LEVEL, BASICALLY YES.

WELL, BUDGET, LIKE WELL SAYING YES, THE BUDGET.

WELL, THAT'S A GOOD POINT, RIGHT? AND, AND SO, UM, SO TO TO SAY, DID WE ACHIEVE THIS? YES, WE DID, BECAUSE WE APPROVED BUDGET TO HIRE SIX NEW CAREER STAFF.

OKAY, YEP.

WE DID THAT.

BUT THEN, BUT THEN PRESENTLY IT'S, IT SHOULD BE, RIGHT? SO I WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A NEW GOAL FOR THIS YEAR TO, TO HIRE MORE STAFF.

IS IT DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND THE NEED OR IS IT TO ACTUALLY TO FIX MORE WHATEVER, KNOW THAT, UH, AND THAT'S WHAT MS. CALLERS WAS TALKING ABOUT, HAVING THIS STUDY.

AND, AND THAT'S, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT AS THE FIRE AND RESCUE FUNDING TASK FORCE ON THE, UH, PROPOSED NEW GOALS.

MM-HMM.

.

YEP.

AND THAT, THAT'S NOT A WORKLOAD ON ADMINISTRATION, IT'S NOT REALLY WORKLOAD.

RIGHT.

IT'S WORK THERE.

OKAY.

WHAT ABOUT THIS CONNECTION BACKUP SYSTEM THAT, SO, WELL, WE DO HAVE A PLAN.

A PLAN WAS DEVELOPED AND, AND WAS GIVEN, UH, TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UH, LAST YEAR.

UM, WE, WE CAN SEND IT TO THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS.

SO, SO YEAH.

A PLAN HAS BEEN, UM, PRODUCED.

NOW, DO WE HAVE TO DECIDE IF WE WANNA IMPLEMENT IT OR NOT? IS IT, IS ANOTHER, I THINK SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE STUDY.

THE STUDY.

THE STUDY, YEAH.

YEAH.

THE STUDY BY CONSULTANT, OUR STAFF, IT WAS A THIRD PARTY.

RIGHT.

A LOCAL CONSULTANT.

MM-HMM.

REDERICK INITIATED.

BUT IT'S MY IMPRESSION

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SOURCE.

AND THERE'S SOME PUSHBACK FROM OTHER, OTHER ENTITIES THAT DON'T WANT US TO HAVE AN ALTERNATE WATER SOURCE.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT, UM, AND, AND TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR, WE HAVE ASKED THE SUPERVISORS TO EVEN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.

SO THE FREDERICK, THEY GAVE HIM PERMISSION.

PERMISSION, THEY CAME OVER, THEY'RE, I UNDERSTAND WHY DID NOT, OKAY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS SUMMER HAS KIND OF PROVEN THAT YOU CAN'T, ONE, YOU CAN FLIP THE SWITCH, TAP INTO THE OTHER WAY.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IS, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE AWARE OF IT, BUT THE TRAINING RIGHT ALONG THE, AND WATER INTAKE IS OUT AT THE END OF AVENUE.

SO LET'S SAY AT CREEK AND SOUTH RIVER DISTRICT, THE TRAIN DUMPS OVER AND THEY DUMP SOMETHING CAUSTIC, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO SHUT THAT WATER DOWN, SUPPLY ONE, BUT THEN GOT THE POWER PLANT, YOU KNOW, THOSE.

SO THAT'S WHERE I, I THOUGHT BE GOOD IF YOU NEVER HAD TO USE IT, HAVE A BACKUP AND THE OTHER ONE.

SO CAN YOU SURE.

YEAH.

KNOW THE OFFER AND DISCUSS THAT.

NO, WE HAVEN'T, NO.

NOT AS A A BOARD.

I DON'T YEAH, IF YOU THAT FORM ESTIMATE NO, YOU GO AHEAD.

IF YOU'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THE NORTHERN VIRGINIA DAILY LAB, THE FREDERICK WATER, VERY LARGE PAST YEAR, AND PART OF THE DISCUSSION WITH WARREN COUNTY CLARK, THE MORE REPORTS IN THE DAILY, I DON'T WANNA SAY ANY, IT'S NOT INFORMATION.

THE MORE REPORTS IN THE DAILY THAT THEY'RE HAVE INCREASED THEIR PURCHASE OF WATER FROM THE CITY OF CHESTER.

AND THEY WHAT? THAT, THAT WATER SOURCE IS APPARENTLY NOT AVAILABLE TO EXPAND AT THIS TIME AND WHAT THE FUTURE WOULD BE.

SO WHAT WAS THE COMPLETION DATE ON THE SEVENTH? UH, JULY, APPROXIMATELY.

I'LL GET YOU THE DATE PAST JULY.

OKAY.

SO THE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE, THE COST DOUBLE POLE GATE, AIR ROAD 7 MILLION.

THAT WAS THREE YEARS AGO.

THE COST NOW IS PROBABLY ABOUT, BUT THAT THEY HAD NOT UPDATED THAT NUMBER BECAUSE OF THE OTHER TENANT.

[02:00:14]

THEY'RE DEPENDENT ON, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IN, IN THE STUDY, THEY DID ADDRESS THAT AT A, AS A HIGH LEVEL.

OKAY.

IN THEIR RECOMMENDATION.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S FREDERICK WATER, IT DOES COME TO CLARK COUNTY.

CLARK COUNTY TOLD, I TOLD MRS. KELLER WAS TELLING ME ABOUT THE FREDERICK BOARD.

MM-HMM.

SUPERVISORS AGREED THEY COULD EXTEND INTO CLARK COUNTY.

OKAY.

AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IT IS .

I THINK THE BOARD HAS SEEN THE, UM, METRICS ON THAT.

RIGHT.

SO THAT WILL BE THE 2024.

ONCE AGAIN, I TRYING TO CATEGORIZE THESE THINGS, AND THIS IS MORE OF A MONITORING FUNCTION MADE, BUT, WELL, ACTUALLY BUSINESS NOT, YEAH.

I KIND OF LOOK AT IT IN, UH, IN ONE OF, UH, A PAPER THAT I READ OF YOURS WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT WBS MM-HMM.

, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE A WBS STRUCTURE, UH, IN MY MIND THESE, SOME OF THESE TASKS WOULD BE CONSIDERED A ACTIVITY TO, YOU KNOW, TO GET DONE.

MM-HMM.

RATHER THAN A GOAL.

RIGHT.

EXACTLY.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, SO IN MY MIND, IF YOU LOOK AT THESE, UH, THESE, THESE TASKS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, OR THESE GOAL, UH, EXCUSE ME, THESE PRIORITIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, TO ME, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE MISSING IS WHICH DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE TO DO IT.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, TO, TO EXPAND ALL OF THAT, BUT YEAH.

MEAN IN GENERAL ALSO, WHICH DEPARTMENT AND ARE WE GONNA PUT SOME TYPE OF A TIME THING ON IT? BECAUSE YOU DON'T PUT IT IF YOU DON'T, IF IT'S NOT TIME DOWN, THEN YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL TEND TO, RIGHT.

YEAH.

WELL THAT WOULD APPLY TO, FOR EXAMPLE, WATER CLAIM.

WE HAVE A STUDY, YOU KNOW, REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, MAKE A DECISION.

EXACTLY.

AND, AND EDA RECOVERY.

THAT'S JUST THAT SORT OF THING.

AND THAT'S WHY I PUT IT AS AN EIGHT.

NOT THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT TO INTERRUPT, THE BOARD DID DISCUSS THE STUDY LAST SUMMER.

ITIS THE BOARD DID NOT FEEL THAT THEY COULD TAKE THAT ON.

I DON'T REMEMBER THAT.

I DO.

I DON'T EITHER.

I REMEMBER THAT THERE WAS NOBODY IN THE BOARD MEETING BUTLER WHO WANTED TO ISSUE 15 MILLION WORTH OF DON'T.

WELL, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD WORK SESSION TOPIC.

, DO IT, DO IT.

I MEAN, WELL, I THINK WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GET.

I ENHANCE ABILITY TO DEVELOP PERFORMANCE ET OR, OR WHAT RISK IT IS NOT.

IT'S THE WORK SESSION.

WE CAN DO THAT.

I THINK, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THIS AS A WORK SEC WORK SESSION TOPIC TO, TO DECIDE IF WE WANNA GO WITH IT OR NOT.

WELL, THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

UNLESS I CAN, YOU CAN SEND ME THE MEETING MINUTES.

YOU'RE DOING WELL.

OH, WELL THAT'S, SORRY.

I WOULD, I, IF IT'S DONE, IT'S ALL DONE AND TAKEN CARE OF.

LIST.

[02:05:13]

YOU DON'T REMEMBER EVER TALKING ABOUT THIS MAN? NOT 15? NO, I, NO, I REMEMBER ASKING HOW ABOUT SIX WHERE NO, BECAUSE I REMEMBER SAYING WHERE, YOU REMEMBER WHERE THE NUMBER CAME FROM? NO.

IT CAME FROM YOUR NO, NO.

WE WERE, WE WERE SITTING IN THE MEETING WITH MR. LAWRENCE AND THE CHAIRMAN UP THERE.

NO, I HAVEN'T BEEN BACK UP TO, WELL, THIS WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

THIS WAS A WHILE.

MRS. OS, AND YOU AND I WERE AT THE MEETING EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE, AND THIS CAME FROM NO, IT CAME FROM MR. LAWRENCE, A PRELIMINARY COST TO RUN THE LINE SIX, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT THEY, THEY AUTHORITY HAVE TO DO, BUT WE'LL JUST HAVE A WORK SESSION.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE, AND THEN UP THE COUNTY, THOSE THINK, WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION.

WHAT, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS PURSUE FUNDING OPTIONS? BECAUSE THAT'S THE ACTION.

IS THAT WHO DOES THAT'S WORKING? .

YEAH.

BECAUSE THESE ROADS, IF, UM, WHO PURSUES PUBLIC WORKS? MIKE BERRY, HOW WORKS YEAH.

RIGHT.

THAT WELL, OKAY.

CONVERSATION.

BUT THEY THE LEGWORK, RIGHT? YEAH.

YOU'LL, YOU'LL BE SEEING THAT.

IS THERE, THIS IS 23 UNDERWAY.

YEAH, I, YEAH, THEY, UH, I THINK LIKE LAST YEAR THEY DID A COUPLE ROADS IN MY DISTRICT, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM.

.

SO, AND IT'S ALL PART OF THIS, UH, THE, THE SIX YEAR PLAN THAT, AND MS. KOHLERS IS TALKING ABOUT.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO JUST ADD SOMETHING JUST FOR A LITTLE CLARIFICATION.

WHEN IT SAYS PURSUANT OPTIONS FOR ROAD AND TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, THESE ARE ROADS THAT ARE VDOT ROADS, THEY'RE NOT COUNTY ROADS.

THE COUNTY DOESN'T OWN ANY ROADS THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT.

SO, SO YOU'RE WORKING, IN ESSENCE, IT REALLY SHOULD BE, SAY, WORKING WITH VDOT, WORKING WITH VDOT AND PRIORITIZING ROADS, VDOT ROADS FOR IMPROVEMENTS.

DO WE EVEN PRIORITIZE IT? BECAUSE FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, WE GO AND WE, WELL, WE WANNA HAVE THIS ONE DONE AND THIS ONE DONE.

THAT'S WHAT WE, TO HAVE COMMITTEE DO THAT LEGWORK NOW AND THEN BRING IT TO US, AND WE'LL HAVE A MEETING WHERE B COMES, UM, MR. PARTNER, UM, MATT SMITH WILL COME, AND THEN WE, WE HAVE A FINAL SAY ON WHAT WAYS WE WANT TO PRIORITIZE.

SO IS THAT HOW WE GOT LIKE, OLD OAK FOUR IN THE FARMS, FOR EXAMPLE? OKAY.

THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THOSE ARE PRIVATE ROADS.

MM-HMM.

IN THE SANITARY DISTRICT.

YEAH.

SO YEAH, THAT ONE GETS INTO A WHOLE, IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL OF WAX.

OKAY.

SAY YOU'VE GOT, UM, A DIRT ROAD IN AND BRING IT UP TO

[02:10:05]

SAYING, SO YOU ASKED MIKE AND TO GO AT IT, THEY LOOK AT CRITERIA.

WE ALL DO THAT FOR OUR DISTRICT.

AND THEN WE DOWN, I'LL TELL YOU, WE HAVE SIX YEAR SIX, THEY DECIDE YEAR UNTIL, THAT'S HOW'S I PRIORITIZE UP AS TO HOW THEY WANNA PROCEED.

WE, WE CAN, WE CAN SIT THERE AND NO, NO.

WE NEED TO SAY WE WANT THIS WORK.

YEAH.

THE FUNDING'S GOTTA BE THERE.

SO THERE'S YOUR THING.

EXACTLY.

MM-HMM.

.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT AN EMAIL THAT, UH, MIKE BARRY SENT US BACK IN OCTOBER TO ASKING US TO START LOOKING AT THIS PROCESS.

AND I BELIEVE, I THINK BEFORE THE, WE LEFT FOR THE HOLIDAYS, UH, MS. CALLERS ASKED TO HAVE THAT PUT ON A WORKING SESSION.

SO I, YOU KNOW, BY READING MIKE'S, UH, I MEAN, UH, PUBLIC WORKS EMAIL HERE, THE SOONER THE BETTER THAT WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT THIS.

SO TO BE DONE, BECAUSE DDOS GOTTA PUT IT ALL IN THEIR SYSTEM.

SYSTEM.

MM-HMM.

.

AND IT'S MUTUAL.

SO WE HAVE TO WE AND SET OUR PRIORITIES.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

SO I, OKAY.

I COULD FORWARD, I'LL FORWARD HIM THE EMAIL THAT WE GOT IN OCTOBER IS, I PUT MINE ON THE FACE, MY FACEBOOK , I WANTED TO SAY, HEY, EVERYBODY DISTRICT.

YEAH.

MM-HMM.

.

THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.

YEAH.

THE 20 PLAN, UM, TO THINK, WELL, THERE'S SECTION THIS TIME, THE ONLY PROJECT WE'RE WORKING ON OVER HERE, CURRENT CONTRACTOR SUBMIT, UM, BUILDING OFFICE.

YEAH.

ONCE THEY REPLY

[02:15:27]

, THAT ONE I THINK PAIRS WITH ONE OF THE ONES ON THE PROPOSED NEW GOALS.

I, I THOUGHT I SAW SOMETHING ABOUT, UM, COMMS TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

IT, I CAN'T REMEMBER TODD IN CHARGE.

HE'S A, THAT HAS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? LIKE SAYING CALENDAR.

YEAH.

CALENDAR.

OR IF YOU SOMETHING YOU WANNA INPUT ON THIS ROAD, YOU PLEASE SEND IT OVER HERE.

SO IS THAT A SHAREPOINT REACH? EXACTLY.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I WENT IN ONE DAY AND TALKED TO HIM GETTING A GET IN THE BACK DOOR AND HE GOES, OH, BY THE WAY, LEMME TELL YOU, YOU HAD SOME REAL BIG IDEAS.

AND SO THAT'S GREAT.

YEAH, ME TOO.

OKAY.

WELL, AGAIN, I WOULD SAY THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH.

BUT HAVE YOU SEEN THE SYSTEM? YEAH.

NO, I HAVEN'T SEEN THEIR SYSTEM.

YEAH.

BUT, BUT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE TO GET FROM THE THREE DIFFERENT ANGLE.

WELL, I I KNOW ALYSSA, UM, UH, THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, ALYSSA SCOTT, YEAH.

SHE HAS, SHE HAS BEEN TALKING WITH ALL OF THOSE OFFICES ABOUT THIS AND TRYING TO, UM, INTEGRATE THINGS INTO THE SYSTEM.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU, I KNOW THAT THEY'VE THOUGHT ABOUT WAS TO WHATEVER SYSTEM THAT THEY, 'CAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE DOING SOME MARKET SURVEYS RIGHT NOW, DIFFERENT TYPE OF, UH, SYSTEMS THAT CAN BE, UM, UH, TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF INTERFACE CAPABILITY TO THEIR SYSTEMS AND RATHER THAN FORCING THEM TO HAVE TO ACCEPT OR ANYTHING.

RIGHT.

EXACTLY.

SO AT THAT, AND CURRENTLY, YEAH, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THAT, THAT, BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY OF WHY THIS IS COMING UP.

I MEAN, THE ASS 400 IS WHAT I CALL A LEGACY SYSTEM.

OKAY.

AND THE, THE REPORTING CAPABILITIES FROM THIS SYSTEM ARE NOT, UM, ARE NOT ADEQUATE IN MY MIND FOR, UM, FOR REPORTING IN TRANSPARENCY.

UM, AND, AND I KNOW MS. CALLERS HAS HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THAT IN THE PAST, SO TO, TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO COME TO THE 21ST CENTURY, YOU KNOW, AND,

[02:20:01]

AND BECAUSE OF, IF WE CAN HAVE A BETTER FINANCIAL SYSTEM THAT IS, UM, MORE, THAT WILL BE MORE EFFICIENT, IT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, REDUCE COSTS AND X, Y, Z YOU KNOW, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, JUST TO THROW SOMETHING AT YOU RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, THE SYS THE COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE AN ACQUISITION SYSTEM TO DO PURCHASE REQUESTS, POS, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND SOMETHING, SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, UM, BRING THAT IN, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM.

.

BUT, UM, I GUESS MY, I, I THINK IT'S JUST LEVEL.

OH YEAH.

AND WE DID THAT LAST YEAR AND THAT'S WHY MS. UH, UH, SCOTT IS PURSUING THIS, BUT YEAH, IT'S PART, IT WAS, UH, SHE PRE, SHE PRESENTED IT SAID AT A WORKING SESSION OR, YOU KNOW, OR, AND WE, WE KIND OF TOLD HER TO GO OFF AND START THE MARKET SURVEY OKAY.

OF THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF, UM, UH, SYSTEMS THAT WOULD WORK WHEN SHE, AND SHE'S BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, OUR CONSULTANTS AND THAT KIND OF THING.

UM, I KNOW WE, WHEN WE APPROVED THE BUDGET, THIS YEAR'S BUDGET YEP.

IT, UM, THE FUNDING FOR PURCHASING THE, THE SYSTEM WAS APPROVED IN OUR, OUR BUDGET.

I THINK IT WAS UNDER THE AS.

OH WHAT? I THINK IT WAS ASSET REPLACEMENT OR, OR REPLACEMENT.

YEP.

MM-HMM.

.

SO MONEY HAS BEEN BUDGETED TO DO SO.

, UHHUH, , RIGHT.

SO ANYWAY, UH, WE CAN EASILY, YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO MS COLORS, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW, WE CAN ASK HER TO COME IN ON A WORKING SESSION AND TALK ABOUT WHERE, WHERE SHE IS ON THE A S 400 MARKET SURVEY OR JUST DISTRIBUTE THAT.

WELL, THERE'S NOTHING REALLY WRITTEN LIKE AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN OR A POEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S ALWAYS, IT'S BEEN VERBAL, YOU KNOW.

YEAH.

WHATEVER'S NOT LONG.

WELL, COULD YOU FIND, OH, MAYBE, OH, WELL, IT'S UP TO, UH, MS. CALLERS, BUT MAYBE WE CAN HAVE THIS HAVE, UM, UH, ALYSSA TO COME AT A WORKING SESSION AND GIVE US A STATUS OF WHERE SHE IS.

MAYBE IF SHE'S NOT AT THE POINT THAT WE CAN'T DO A STUDY BEFORE SHE GOES ANY FURTHER, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S EXPENDED ANYTHING.

QUESTION.

YEAH.

MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

I'M INTERESTED IN THIS AS WELL.

.

YEAH.

YEAH.

RICH, WHEN YOU MENTIONED AN IT SURVEY, WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT JUST IN TERMS OF OPTIONS FOR AS 400 REPLACEMENT OR IT, UH, USAGE IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY BUREAUCRACY AND, AND ALL THE, WHAT OTHER LEGACY SYSTEMS ARE THERE, FOR EXAMPLE? UM, ALL OF THAT.

THERE'S DEFINITELY MM-HMM.

, I THINK THAT WORK.

YEAH.

BUT, BUT YEAH, BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE GOING AROUND MEETING DEPARTMENT HEADS ASKING WHAT, WHAT IS THE SOFTWARE? LIKE AN ARCHITECTURAL KIND OF, OH YEAH.

I USED TO DO IT FOR A LIVING.

TRUST ME.

I KNOW.

SO I, I DON'T TAKE IT VERY LIGHTLY.

.

[02:25:02]

OKAY.

SO, SO THAT ITEM STILL DRAWING GOVERNMENT TECHNOLOGY.

I WORK WITH YOU, YOUR STAFF, ANYBODY, IF THAT WANTS TO PUT SOME POINT IN TIME SURVEY.

MM-HMM.

AS A SUGGESTION, WE DO HAVE AN IT COMMITTEE, MIDI, SO MAYBE YOU COULD PUT YOUR NAME ON THAT.

.

MM-HMM.

.

SO , I WAS ACTUALLY WONDERING IF THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO SCHEDULE A SESSION FOR THE REST OF THIS, BECAUSE WE'VE FAR EXCEEDED THE, THE TIME SAVINGS THAT WE WERE HOPING TO CAPITALIZE ON.

YEAH.

WELL THAT, UM, OR HOME.

MM-HMM.

DIDN'T WANT TO OFF SINCE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE SEEN THE PROPOSED.

EXACTLY.

AND WE CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT TO WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, BOARD MEMBERS, BUT ALSO WHATEVER DEPARTMENT.

SO WOULD YOU LIKE US TO GO, UM, GO BACK AND CHANGE OUR, OUR NUMERIC RATING TO, UM, HIGH, MEDIUM, AND, AND LOW? EVERYBODY? DO YOU WANNA DO THAT? OKAY.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, I'LL ATTEMPT TO DO THAT.

AND, UM, EVERYBODY .

OKAY.

AND, UH, ALONG THOSE LINES, UH, WITH FOIA, UM, IS IT PRECLUDED THAT WE COULD HAVE THIS IN A COLLABORATIVE SPREADSHEET AND SHAREPOINT AND ALL BE EDITING THE SAME DOCUMENT? UM, WELL, 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO BE ABLE TO ADD COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND EVERYONE COULD SEE THEM.

ANSWER, I THINK, I THINK JASON, HIS GUIDANCE WAS SAYING HE DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA.

OKAY.

BECAUSE OF US, ONCE WE ALL COMMUNICATE OR OR INPUT INTO A REPOSITORY, IT COULD BE CONSTRUED OF A MEETING, A COLLABORATION MEETING AND STUFF, YOU KNOW, TO BE PEOPLE THREE OF US COULD GO, BUT WE COULDN'T SAY ANYTHING.

MM-HMM.

,

[02:30:04]

WHITEBOARD.

WHITEBOARD.

YEAH.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF FUN STUFF YOU CAN DO WITH POST-IT NOTES OF DIFFERENT COLORS AND THEN YOU CAN MOVE THEM AROUND AND GROUP THEM TOGETHER AND ALL KIND, ALL KINDS OF STUFF.

SO VISUAL, VISUAL.

THIS, THIS MENTIONED BEFORE, WELL, IT A COUPLE THINGS THOUGH.

UM, OKAY.

SO WE'RE GONNA GO AND, AND RE WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THESE, UH, PROPOSED NEW GOALS AND WE'RE GONNA REESTABLISH, INSTEAD OF USING THE NUMERIC SYSTEM, WE'RE GONNA DO I MEDIUM AND LOW.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, SO WHEN ARE WE GOING TO, WHEN ARE WE GONNA REGROUP AND FINISH THIS OUT? I MEAN, WOULD IT BE ANOTHER WORKING SESSION OR UHHUH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO I THINK MORE OKAY.

UM, SEND BACK OUT PIGGYBACK ONE OF THESE.

YEAH.

UM, UM, OKAY.

SO I, YEAH, SO WE COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ONE OF THOSE DATES, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM.

, OKAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I JUST DON'T WANNA FIND OURSELVES SETTING PRIORITIES MIDWAY THROUGH THE YEAR, SO MM-HMM.

, BUT I RATHER SO, WELL KIM, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

PERFECT.

WE CAN SEND INFORMATION.

PERFECT.

END OF NEXT WEEK.

DO HAVE THEM BACK TWO DO THAT NEXT WEEK.

OKAY.

PERFECT.

THIS, THIS PARTICULAR HE'LL SEND A LIKE THAT ON JAMESON WILL WORK ON SOME OTHER THINGS WITH TOGETHER, SAY THEY CAN'T BE HERE, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO BRING UP, SLIP IT IN.

GREAT.

THAT WORKS FOR ME.

AND,

[02:35:01]

UH, AND THE LAST THING I WANTED TO, UM, UH, BRING UP IS THAT, UM, I, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WE WERE LIVE STREAMING THIS MEETING, WHICH I THINK IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA.

UM, EXCUSE ME.

BUT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT WAS GOING BACK AND FORTH MULTIPLE, SO IT NOT UTILIZED, BUT IT WAS IN INITIALLY START IT OUT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

IT HAVE TO WORK ON.

OKAY.

SO, UM, THAT'S DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS , BUT THAT'S OKAY.

BUT WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS THAT ONCE WE GET THE THINGS WORKED OUT AND EVERYTHING THAT I, SOMEHOW WE NEED TO LET OUR, UM, THE PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE ARE LIVESTREAMING THIS BUDGET.

THE MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

WELL THAT, NO, THAT'S NO PROBLEM.

BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST, I THINK IT'S THAT WE JUST NEED TO, UH, SOCIALIZE IT.

AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT I DO WHEN, WHEN, UM, OUR COUNTY STAFF ALWAYS POSTS WILL TRY TO POST ON THE, UM, THE COUNTY FACEBOOK PAGE ABOUT OUR MEETINGS.

AND THEN WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS SHARE THAT TO MY FACEBOOK PAGE TO TELL MY, MY CONSTITUENTS THAT WE'RE HAVING A MEETING.

SO IF FOR THESE BUDGET MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, SEE NICK DO THAT SAME PROCESS, PUT IT ON, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SO .

OH YEAH.

NO, TOTALLY.

NO, TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

AND I THINK ABSOLUTELY, THEY NEED TO KNOW THE NUMBERS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

I.