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OKAY.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE JANUARY 9TH BUDGET WORK SESSION AND JUST SOME HOUSEKEEPING THINGS.

WE WILL BE LIVE STREAMING TONIGHT AND TO, UM, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT TO CUT BACK ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAD LAST TIME TO TALK DIRECTLY INTO YOUR MICS, NOT PUSH 'EM AWAY FROM YOU.

IT SEEMS LIKE YOU PUSHED THEM AWAY, IS WHERE THE PROBLEM COMES.

UM, OUR AGENDA TONIGHT, UH, CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

AND OUR AGENDA TONIGHT, UM, WE ARE REMOVING BLUE RED'S ARTS COUNCIL.

THEY COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT.

AND AS FAR AS WE'VE HEARD, NO ONE ELSE HAS CANCELED ON THIS.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO

[A. 6:00 - 6:20 PM - Budget Presentation - Old Dominion ASAP (Alcohol Safety Action Program) ]

THE FIRST IS OLD DOMINION ASAP, AND THEY'RE NOT HERE YET.

SO, UM, DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE STUFF NOW? OKAY.

FROM FREDERICK CLARK AND YOU SEE SOMETHING IN HERE IN PARTICULAR, LET US KNOW.

OTHERWISE, WE'LL PUT THIS ON FOR TUESDAY SO WE CAN SEND NOTES.

SO THE, THE BROADBAND YES.

IS THAT REQUESTED BY A, UM, ALL POINTS OR IS THAT JUST SOMETHING THAT OUR BOARD HAS DECIDED TO REQUEST? IT IS REQUESTED BY KO.

OKAY.

VACO SENT IT OUT THIS AFTERNOON.

UM, THEY HAVE A DELEGATE AND I'M NOT SURE THE DELEGATE'S NAME, NOT OUR DELEGATE, UM, HAS SUBMITTED A PROPOSED BILL AND VACO HAS PICKED UP ON IT AND IS TRYING TO GENERATE SUPPORT FOR IT.

UM, ALL POINTS DOES SUPPORT IT.

ALL POINTS DID FOLLOW UP AND CONTACT US AFTER MAKO SEND OUT

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THE NOTIFICATION OF THE BILL, BUT IT'S NOT MAKO, IT'S NOT ALL POINTS OF BILL.

DR.

DALEY, IS YOUR MIC ON? YES.

OKAY.

I CAN HEAR YOU BETTER.

I NEVER HEAR IT WORKING REAL WELL, PARTICULARLY.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

SO THESE ARE, UM, FOR OUR CONSIDERATION AND IF WE HAVE ADDITION, UH, ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT WE'D LIKE.

SO WE, WHEN DO YOU WANT THESE BACK? WELL, IF YOU COULD SEND THEM, UH, THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, UH, WE'LL GET, UH, MR. HENDERSON TO ADD THEM ON TO THIS.

AND THEN IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT COMES UP OVER THE WEEKEND OR SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO CHANGE, YOU CAN ALWAYS ADD IT OR DELETE IT ON TUESDAY.

OKAY.

UH, THIS WOULD, IF YOU GET IT, IF YOU GET IT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, WE CAN GET IT BACK OUT TO EVERYBODY SO EVERYBODY SEES IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SINCE WE'RE NOT TAKING PICTURES, I THINK ABOUT FIVE MINUTES IF, IF THAT'S NOBODY'S HERE.

I WAS GONNA SAY , UM, I'M GONNA GO LOOK FOR ALL DOMINION ASAP .

DO WE WANNA TAKE A FIVE, 10 MINUTE? UH, I THINK I JUST SAW MS. MS. TENET WALK IN FOR FOUR H, SO, UM, WE'LL TAKE A FEW MINUTES BREAK AND THEN COME BACK.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

WE ARE BACK IN SESSION AND MS. TENET

[C. 6:40 - 7:00 PM - Budget Presentation - Northern VA 4-H]

FROM THE, UH, NORTHERN FOUR H CENTER IS HERE AND, UM, I'VE SET MYSELF APART BECAUSE I'VE, I'VE GOT THE CRUX THAT'S GOING AROUND, SO I DIDN'T WANNA SHARE IT.

AND I'M GONNA, I HAVE A LITTLE, UH, BEHIND STUFF GOING ON TOO, SO.

WELL GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME AND PRESENT.

I'M SORRY, I FEEL LIKE I'M SO CLOSE.

I CAN'T SEE HOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE FINE.

A LITTLE THAT'S GOING ON THERE AND I SEE SOME NEW FACES.

SO GREAT TO WELCOME OUR NEW BOARD MEMBERS AND I SURE SAID IT'S KATIE TENET.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE MORGAN VIRGINIA FOUR H CENTER.

I'VE BEEN IN THAT ROLE ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF NOW AND I'M KIND OF GETTING MY FEET SETTLED WITH THAT AND WANNA SHARE JUST A LITTLE BIT KIND OF ABOUT WHO WE ARE.

I'VE LEARNED IN MY TIME HERE IN VIRGINIA, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T TRULY UNDERSTAND OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH FOUR H AND HOW WE'RE DIFFERENT FROM VIRGINIA PROFIT EXTENSION AND HOW ALL THAT LOOKS.

AND THEN I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR REQUEST AND BUDGET AND ALL OF THAT GOOD STUFF FOR YOU.

ALRIGHT.

SO IF YOU'LL LOOK RIGHT HERE.

SO WE ARE PARTNERED WITH THE FOUR H, BUT WE ARE A SEPARATE ENTITY SO WE PARTNER WITH THEM, BUT WE ARE OUR OWN 4 0 3, UM, NONPROFIT, BUT OUR VALUES ARE THE SAME.

FOUR H IS TO BUILD LEADERS AND TO MAKE THE BETTER BEST AND WE WANT TO EDUCATE, INSPIRE, AND CONNECT.

SO IT WORKS VERY WELL FOR US TO DO THAT TOGETHER.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE THIS PRESENTATION? IF NOT, I HAVE COPIES I CAN GIVE YOU.

I DIDN'T.

OKAY, PERFECT.

THAT WAY YOU JUST HAVE IT.

THANK YOU.

LATER.

THANKS.

I'LL SEE.

I'LL SLIP THROUGH HERE.

THANK YOU.

YOU CAN HAVE IT TO REFERENCE.

SO WE ARE THE HOST PROGRAM FOR THE FACILITIES.

WE HOST FOUR H CAMP.

THAT IS OUR BIGGEST GOAL IN OUR LEADERSHIP.

WE DO EIGHT WEEKS OF FOUR H SPECIFIC JUNIOR CAMP AND THEN WE DO CLOVER BUDS.

WE DO SOME SPECIALTY CAMPS LIKE SHERIFF'S CAMP AND A FEW THINGS I'LL TALK ABOUT.

BUT OUR GOAL IS ALSO TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE CONFERENCE, WE HAVE RETREAT SPACE, WE DO PROGRAMMING FOR SCHOOLS AND FIELD TRIPS.

SO WE ARE THIS KIND OF OUR THREE GROUPS HERE.

WHAT WE HAVE OFFER, WE HAVE 229 ACRES JUST OUTSIDE OF TOWN AND IT REALLY BROKE MY HEART WHEN I MOVED TO VIRGINIA AND PEOPLE SAID, WHAT, WHERE? WHO? LIKE, WE'RE RIGHT THERE.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE WORKING ON IS JUST LETTING PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER.

THAT IT IS NOT A PRIVATE FOUR H ONLY TYPE FACILITY THAT WE HAVE SOME THINGS FOR THEM TO USE IN SUPPORTING IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE DO RUN OUR SUMMER CAMPS IN ADDITION, OUR SPECIALTY CAMPS, SOME OF THEM WE PARTNER WITH CAMP FANTASTIC, WHICH IS SPECIAL LOVE OUTTA WINCHESTER, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THEM.

THEY DO C CAMP FOR KIDS WHO ARE ACTIVELY RECEIVING TREATMENT FOR CANCER WITHIN FIVE YEARS OF RECEIVING TREATMENT.

WE ALSO PARTNER WITH CAMP SMILE, WHICH IS A CAMP OUT OF ALL KEER COUNTY WHERE KIDS NEED A LITTLE EXTRA SUPPORT AND HELP THOSE RISING SIXTH GRADERS.

AND THEY COME AND DO HALF A DAY OF FUN CAMP ACTIVITIES AND THEY BRING 10 STAFF THAT ARE TEACHERS AND THEY DO HALF A DAY OF ENRICHMENT LEARNING AS WELL.

AND THEN WE DO SHERIFF'S CAMP.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE PAGE COUNTY.

I'M SUPER EXCITED FOR WORKING WITH SHERIFF KLEIN TO GET WARREN COUNTY

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BACK, UM, AND GET THOSE KIDS OUT THERE THAT MIGHT HAVE A FEW, JUST STRUGGLES IN THEIR LIFE AND NEED A LITTLE BIT OF LEADERSHIP AND SUPPORT WITH THAT.

SOME OF THE CAMP CLASSES WE OFFER VERY CAMPY, YOU KNOW, WE DO THE CANOEING AND WE DO THE SHOOTING SPORTS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE STEM AND PERFORMING ARTS AND YOGA LEADERSHIP.

WE ARE ABOUT FULL DEVELOPMENT OF THE YOUTH AND HOW WE CAN MAKE THEM INTO FUNCTIONING CITIZENS AS THEY GO THROUGH.

HERE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF DATA FROM OUR CAMP SURVEYS.

I KNOW ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAD IS HOW DO YOU EVALUATE YOUR PROGRAM? SO WE GIVE A SURVEY AT THE END OF EVERY CAMP AND 94% OF OUR CAMPERS FROM WARREN COUNTY RECORDED AN INCREASE IN THEIR ABILITY TO FOLLOW THROUGH WHEN THEY WERE ASKED TO DO SOMETHING.

A LOT OF THE TIMES WHEN KIDS COME TO CAMP, IT'S THEIR FIRST TIME THEY'VE EVER BEEN ASKED TO CLEAN UP AFTER THEMSELVES TO SWEEP THEIR ROOM, TO TAKE THEIR DISHES TO THE SINK.

THEY'RE LIKE, WHAT'S HAPPENING? I DON'T HAVE A PARENT TO DO THAT.

WE'RE LIKE, NO, NO, NO, YOU'RE GONNA LEARN HOW TO DO THIS YOURSELF.

YOU GOT THIS 88% REPORTED INCREASE IN THE ABILITY TO SHARE WORKER RESPONSIBILITIES.

THEY ARE IN CHARGE OF THEIR BUNKS AND THEIR BEDS AND THEIR LODGES AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

86% REPORTED INCREASE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS.

THEY'RE LEARNING HOW TO LIVE IN A GROUP WITH OTHER PEOPLE, WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM THEM CULTURALLY, SOCIAL ECONOMICALLY.

AND 88% REPORTED AN INCREASE IN THE ABILITY TO HANDLE SUCCESS AND FAILURE.

THE THINGS THAT WE DO, THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS GONNA SUCCEED THE FIRST TIME, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING ON OUR TEAM BUILDING COURSE OR HIGH ROPES.

IT'S A LEARNING OPPORTUNITY.

IT'S A CHANCE TO SAY, WELL, WHAT WENT WRONG AND HOW CAN WE FIX IT AND HOW CAN WE TRY AGAIN NEXT TIME TO MAKE IT BETTER? AND AS A FORMER TEACHER, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S LACKING IN OUR YOUTH TODAY, IS THAT ABILITY TO FAIL AND IT NOT JUST DEVASTATE THEM AND SHUT THEM DOWN.

MY FAVORITE QUESTION, WE DO A QUALITATIVE BECAUSE OF CAMP.DOT DOT.

WE LET THEM KIND OF FILL IN THE DATA.

SO I WON'T READ ALL OF THESE.

MY FAVORITE'S TOP LEFT.

I AM LESS ADDICTED TO SCREENS.

WE DON'T LET THEM HAVE THEIR CELL PHONES AT CAMP.

UM, AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE SERVICE AS MUCH AS YOU KNOW ANYWAY UP THERE ON THE MOUNTAIN.

BUT IT GIVES THEM A CHANCE TO TRULY JUST CONNECT AND BE IN THE MOMENT AND BE ENGAGED.

UM, ACTING AS LEADER, WORK RESPONSIBILITIES, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

WE DO OFFER RETREAT GROUPS.

THIS WILL BE THERE.

THAT'S JUST SOME BASIC INFORMATION ABOUT OUR SPACES THAT WE HAVE.

UM, SOME OF OUR EDUCATIONAL FIELD TRIPS, WE WORK A LOT WITH E WILSON MORRISON AND SOME OF THE LOCAL SCHOOLS TO COME OUT AND GET THEM IN NATURE, DOING SOME OUTDOOR CLASSROOM TYPE SKILLS.

BUT WHAT YOU REALLY WANNA KNOW IS WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR THE WARREN COUNTY RESIDENTS? SO HERE'S A QUICK SCREENSHOT.

SO JUST THROUGH JUNIOR FOUR H CAMP, WE HAD 154 WARREN COUNTY CAMPERS LAST YEAR, THAT WAS AN INCREASE IN 10.

FROM 2022 WE HAD 211 STUDENTS FROM WARREN COUNTY PARTICIPATING IN THOSE FIELD TRIPS.

OUR FIREWORKS, WE HAD ABOUT 3,500.

UM, THAT WAS DOWN A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR.

PART OF IT WAS WE HAD THAT TERRIBLE RAIN WEATHER , UM, THAT WAS THREATENING ALL DAY LONG.

AND I DUNNO WHAT HAPPENED.

HOW, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU ESTIMATE THAT? I'M JUST CURIOUS.

YEAH, HOW DO YOU ESTIMATE? 3,500? SO WE KEEP TRACK OF CARS PARKING AND THEN TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY, WE HAVE LIKE THOSE LITTLE GOLF CLICKERS, SO IT'S NOT PERFECT.

UM, BUT IT GIVES US A GOOD IDEA OF HOW MANY THAT WE CAN BRING IN, HOW MANY ARE IN THE CARS WHEN WE DO THAT.

UM, AND THAT'S GONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT SINCE THE CARDINALS DO THE FIREWORKS AS WELL.

SO THERE'S LITTLE COMPETITION THERE.

UM, WE HAD OVER 2000 PEOPLE PARTICIPATE IN RETREATS JUST FROM WARREN COUNTY.

AND THEN OUR PUBLIC SWIM AND OUR SWIM PARTIES, POOL LESSONS ARE UP THERE AS WELL.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY.

I'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, TALKING WITH CHERYL, WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH LIZZIE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH NIKKI ABOUT HOW WE CAN SERVE THE COMMUNITY BETTER, WHAT CAN WE DO? HOW ARE WE KIND OF LOOKING AHEAD? A COUPLE OF OUR GOALS FOR 2023 WAS WORKING ON HEALTH ROCKS PROGRAMS. SO THAT'S A FOUR H KIND OF LIKE DARE PROGRAM.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN INVEST THAT INTO SOME OF OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS.

UH, WE OFFERED CPR FIRST AID A ED TRAININGS.

WE OFFERED LIFEGUARD TRAININGS THIS LAST YEAR, 2024.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS OFFER PROJECT LEARNING TREE TRAINING.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'LL BE REALLY COOL FOR SOME OF THE TEACHERS IN THE AREA TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.

WE ARE ALSO PARTNERING WITH THE FORMERLY THERMAL SHELTER NOW, THE HOPE AND REST TEMPORARY SHELTER.

SO THEY CAN COME OUT ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK AND DO SHOWERS TO GET THEIR RESIDENTS A LITTLE BIT OF A SHOWER AND A BREAK, UM, TO FEEL MORE NORMAL.

UM, REAL QUICKLY ABOUT OUR FUNDING, SO WE ARE A 5 0 1 C3.

LESS THAN 7% OF OUR ANNUAL INCOME IS GUARANTEED.

SO I AM TECHNICALLY EMPLOYED BY VIRGINIA TECH, AS IS MY PROGRAM DIRECTOR.

SO SOME OF OUR SALARY AND BENEFITS DO COME FROM THE STATE, BUT THE REST OF OUR BUDGET IS 100% FUNDED BY THE PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER AND THAT WE DO.

UM, SO WE GET A LOT OF GRANTS JUST IN 23 AND COMING INTO 24, WE'VE RAISED OVER A MILLION DOLLARS IN GRANT FUNDS

[00:15:01]

AND IT, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THOSE WITH TECHNOLOGY, WE ARE GETTING A FIBER EXPANSION ACROSS OUR WHOLE CENTER.

CURRENTLY WE JUST HAVE FIBER IN THE OFFICE, IN THE CONFERENCE CENTER, BUT THAT IS COMING, IT'S ALREADY LAID.

WE'RE WAITING ON THE EQUIPMENT TO ALL OF THE LODGES, TO THE POOL AND TO THE AMPHITHEATER.

SO THAT WILL GIVE OUR RETREAT GROUPS MORE CONNECTIVITY WHEN THEY'RE COMING OUT AND THAT WILL ALLOW US TO HOPEFULLY GET SOME MORE ON BOARD.

WE HAD ZOOM BOARDS, WHICH I THINK OF LIKE, IF YOU REMEMBER THE LITTLE LIKE CART THAT USED TO COME INTO YOUR CLASSROOM THAT HAD LIKE THE OVERHEAD PROJECTOR AND ALL THE THING, IT'S LIKE THE NEWEST VERSION OF THAT .

IT'S A TRAVELING, YOU KNOW, COMPUTER ZOOM BOARD WHERE YOU CAN WHEEL IT INTO A ROOM AND SET UP AND HAVE A MEETING AND HAVE THE CONNECTIVITY.

WE RECEIVED A FUNDING FOR AN IPAD LAB TO HELP WITH OUR MICRO VERTEBRAES AND SOME OF OUR STEM PROGRAMMING.

WE RECEIVED SOME COMPUTER AND SOUND UPGRADES AND AV EQUIPMENT FOR FACILITIES.

I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR, IT'S A MULTI-YEAR PROGRAM.

WE RECEIVED A GENEROUS DONATION TO HELP RENOVATE THE AMPHITHEATER AREA AND TURN THAT INTO PERFORMING ARTS COMPLEX.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH SOME LOCAL CONTRACTORS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

AND I'VE TALKED TO LIZZIE ABOUT HOW WE CAN DO SOME CONCERTS IN THE PARK AND SOME MOVIE NIGHTS AND HOW WE CAN PARTNER ON SOME THINGS WITH SPECIAL LOVE.

THEY HAVE PARTNERED WITH US TO HELP US BE A LOT MORE A DA ACCESSIBLE.

SO THEY ARE HELPING US PURCHASE A POOL LIFT FOR THE POOL SO WE CAN GET WHEELCHAIR USERS IN THERE, UM, MORE ADEQUATELY AND SAFER THAN WE CURRENTLY ARE.

AND WE ARE LOOKING AT A RENOVATION OF THE TENNIS COURTS TO TURN THEM IN TWO OF THE EXISTING COURTS INTO PICKLEBALL AND KEEPING THE THIRD TENNIS COURT, BUT RESURFACING IT.

AND OUR PLAN FOR THAT IS TO HAVE SOME OPEN PUBLIC HOURS WHERE THEY'RE FREE FOR ANYONE TO USE AND THEN IN PEAK TIME, SOME PAID PUBLIC HOURS SO WE CAN INCREASE SOME REVENUE ON THAT AND KEEP UP WITH THE MAINTENANCE SO THEY DON'T FALL INTO REPAIR.

AND THEN WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PROSPECT BASEBALL, WHICH ONE OF THE YOUTH BASEBALL TEAMS AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT PARTNERING WITH US TO DO SOME FIELD RENOVATIONS AND SOME THINGS DOWN THERE FOR THAT.

AND THEN EQUIPMENT WISE, WE GOT A GRANT LAST YEAR THROUGH MILITARY PROGRAMMING AND CAMPS AND WE WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE SOME HIKING GEAR FROM MOUNTAIN TRAILS.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM.

SO IF WE'RE NOT USING 'EM THE SUMMER, HOW THAT COULD BE LIKE A CHECKOUT PROGRAM.

SO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, IF THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, I MIGHT WANNA GET INTO BACKPACKING, BUT I DON'T WANNA SPEND $200 ON A BACKPACK, COULD COME OUT, RENT A BACKPACK FOR A WEEKEND AND A TENT AND ALL THE THINGS THEY NEED.

SO WE'RE SEEING WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, KIND OF LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE AT A COLLEGE.

OKAY.

HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHAT, WHICH EXTENT RESOURCES ARE YOU? DO YOU GO OUT AND TALK TO BOAT AND YOU KNOW, FIND OUT? IS IT ONE OF THE FOLKS THERE SAYS, OH, I'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE ASK ME ABOUT THIS.

WHY DON'T GET THAT? YEAH, IT'S MOSTLY THE LATTER.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE, LIKE WITH THE TENNIS COURTS AND PICKLEBALL, WE HAD LIKE THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE SIX MONTH PERIOD BE LIKE, IT WOULD BE REALLY AWESOME IF WE COULD DO THIS.

AND IT WAS KIND OF MULTIPLE PEOPLE.

AND WE SAID, OKAY, WHAT IF WE DID THAT? AND LIKE THEN WE SPECIFICALLY GO TO LOOK FOR THAT GRANT FUNDING AND THEN SOMETIMES IT FINDS US.

THE AMPHITHEATER JUST FOUND US.

THERE WAS A DONOR, HIS MOM WAS A BIG FOUR H ADVOCATE, SHE WAS PERFORMING ARTS INSTRUCTOR IN FALL, KEER COUNTY FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.

SHE WAS GETTING UP IN AGE.

HE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING BEFORE HER BEFORE SHE PASSED.

AND HE THOUGHT OF US AND SAID, HERE, LET ME GIVE YOU THIS DONATION IN HONOR OF MY MOM.

SO IT KIND OF COMES AND GOES BOTH, BUT USUALLY IT'S, WE SEE A NEED AND THEN WE SPECIFICALLY TRY TO FIND GRANT FUNDING FOR THAT NEED.

LIKE FOR OUR WIFI.

WE'VE HAD FOR, WELL SINCE I'VE BEEN IN VIRGINIA, LIKE CONFERENCES AND RETREATS GROUPS ARE LIKE, WELL WE HAVE NO CONNECTIVITY.

LIKE, WE LOVE IT UP THERE.

IT'S PEACEFUL, IT'S GREAT TO DISCONNECT, BUT IF I'M HOSTING BUSINESS, I NEED TO BE CONNECTED.

SO, SO WHEN SOMEBODY GIVES YOU A GRANT LIKE THAT MM-HMM.

.

YOU GOOGLE SIGN IT THERE THAT SAYS THAT THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, UH, GENEROUSLY BY WE DO.

UM, AND ACTUALLY I LEFT IT OFF HERE, BUT WE HAD THE ROSIN FOUNDATION, UM, JUST GAVE US A GRANT LAST YEAR, WELL IN KIND DONATIONS.

IT WASN'T TECHNICALLY A GRANT TO REDO ALL OF OUR LIGHTS THROUGH THE WHOLE PARKING LOTS IN THE ROAD TO BE SMART LED LIGHTS.

UM, SO NOW THEY TURN ON AT DUSK AND THEY TURN OFF AT DAYLIGHT AND WE'RE NO LONGER USING THE INCANDESCENCE.

SO WE HAVE A NICE LITTLE SIGN THAT SAYS PROJECT SUPPORTED BY THE ROSIN GROUP.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE GRANT CLERK? ALL RIGHT.

I KNOW I'M THERE.

PERFECT.

I WAS LIKE, I KNOW I'M ALMOST OUTTA TIME AND I DON'T WANNA GIVE YOU THE TIME FOR QUESTIONS.

SO WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE? UH, I HAVE A FEW.

OH, THAT'S LOUD.

I'M GONNA JUST TURN THIS UP.

UM, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I'VE, I'VE BEEN UP THERE A BUNCH FOR A LOT OF THINGS, SO I JUST WANNA SAY HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THAT CENTER AND YOU GUYS ARE IN ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PARTS OF THE COUNTY.

UM MM-HMM.

.

AND, UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TRAIL ACCESS YOU HAVE UP THERE TO THE NATIONAL PARK AND TO THE APPALACHIAN TRAIL.

UM, SO I'VE, I LOVE THAT YOU CAN JUST GO THERE, PARK AND HIKE.

UM,

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I WANTED TO ASK YOU TWO QUESTIONS.

ONE IS ABOUT, UH, PROGRAMS. DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THE TRADITIONAL FOUR H PROGRAMS THAT MORE HAVE TO DO WITH AGRICULTURE AND RAISING AN ANIMALS AND, AND FARMING AND THAT SORT OF THING? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

SO WE DO NOT RUN THAT TYPE OF PROGRAMMING.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WARREN COUNTY RUNS.

OKAY.

SO THE NEW AGENT WHO I KNOW IS BEING HIRED, UM, THAT WORKS WITH COREY AND OCTAVIA.

SO THEY WOULD RUN ALL THE CLUBS AND ALL THE ACTUAL FOUR H PROGRAMMING AND THEN WE'RE LIKE THE EVENT CENTER.

SO WE DO HOST LIKE HORSE SHOWS AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME IN FOR LIKE A DAY AND WANNA DO DIFFERENT PROGRAMMING, BUT WE DON'T ACTUALLY RUN THOSE CLUBS.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, MAYBE JUST A SUGGESTION FOR, FOR STEM.

YEAH.

UH, I WOULD LOVE IT IF SOMEWHERE IN OUR COUNTY WE HAD LIKE A MAKER'S LAB WHERE YOUNG TEENS COULD BUILD ELECTRONICS AND BUILD MECHANICAL THINGS AND YOU KNOW, HAVE LIKE A 3D PRINTER AND A CNC MACHINE AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

WE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT WINCHESTER DOES.

UH, AND, AND THEN THE CLOSER YOU GO INTO THE DC THE MORE THERE IS OR THAT, BUT WE, THAT WOULD BE NICE TO, TO ADD TO YOUR PROGRAM.

YEAH.

I LOVE THAT.

NOW I'M THINKING, HOW CAN I GET A GRANT FOR THAT OR PEOPLE, PEOPLE TO, TO LEAD THAT, RIGHT? YES.

AND YEAH, AND THE MANPOWER BECAUSE SURE.

YEAH, DEFINITELY FINDING THOSE VOLUNTEERS.

'CAUSE THAT'S OUR BIGGEST STRETCH RIGHT NOW COMING OUT OF COVID IS WE'RE BUILDING AND WE'RE GETTING THE PROGRAMMING AND THEN NOW WE HAVE TO BUILD THE STAFF BACK UP TO MEET THOSE DEMANDS.

UM, IT'S KINDA LIKE THAT CYCLE OF YOU NEED MONEY TO GET STAFF, YOU NEED STAFF TO GET MONEY.

.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, THAT'S IT.

YES SIR.

BROADBAND, UM, I'M WONDERING WHY THAT'S NOT COVERED BY ALL POINTS.

IT SHOULD BE WHAT'S ALL POINTS? ALL POINTS.

BROADBAND IS THE, THE COUNTY HAS A BLANKET GRANT.

WE'VE GOT, UH, WE'VE GOT $7 MILLION INTO THIS GRANT AND THEN THERE'S STATE AND FEDERAL MONEY THAT MATCHES IT TO PUT BROADBAND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

UH, AND I'M WONDERING WHY, AND I KNOW IT, I KNOW IT COMES UP OFF OF 5 22, SO I'M WONDERING WHY IT'S NOT A, MAYBE BECAUSE WE'RE FEDERAL LAND BECAUSE TECHNICALLY VIRGINIA TECH OWNED THE LANDS AND WE RENT IT FROM THEM.

WOULD THAT BE WHY? MAYBE, WELL, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG WITH ALL, UH, THE, UH, THE PROGRAM IS FOR, UM, UNSERVED HOUSEHOLDS.

OH, OKAY.

WELL, I CAN TELL YOU, I DON'T BELIEVE IT COVERS BUSINESSES.

HARMONY HOLLOW WOULD LOVE IT.

'CAUSE HARMONY HOLLOW CALLS US ALL THE TIME.

BUT NOT TO SAY CAN'T, CAN YOUR WIFI WHAT THE, THE FIBER THAT THEY INSTALLED FOR THE, FOR THE HOMES.

YEAH.

I THINK IT INCLUDES BUSINESSES MEAN, I KNOW IT'S, BUT I THINK IT INCLUDES BUSINESSES BECAUSE THERE ARE VERY FEW BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOCATED UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS A HOME BUSINESS.

WELL, I HOPE SO.

THAT WOULD BE AWESOME IF IT DOES.

I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION.

DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE ALL, THE ONLY THING I ALWAYS REMEMBER IS THAT THEY ALWAYS, UH, THE NUMBER THAT'S SIX IN MY HEAD IS, UH, THEY WILL SERVE 2100 HOMES.

THEY MEASURE BY HOUSEHOLDS, BY HOU.

THAT'S ALL IT COVERS.

2100 HOUSEHOLDS IS WHAT THE PROGRAM WILL COVER.

BUT THEY, THEY MEASURE BY HOUSEHOLDS.

BUT THEY, UH, I THINK OTHER THAN JUST THE FACT, THE MEASUREMENT, I THINK A HOUSEHOLD IS A HOUSEHOLD.

A CUSTOMER IS A CUSTOMER.

MM-HMM.

.

THEY DON'T CARE WHETHER IT'S A BUSINESS OR A, UH, FAMILY IF THEY SIGN UP FOR MM-HMM.

WHAT? THEY'RE GONNA RUN IT THERE AND WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT OH, ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

UM, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT THE AMPHITHEATER AND LIZZIE.

MM-HMM.

.

SO LIZZIE'S DOWNTOWN.

YES.

SORRY.

YES.

SHE'S TOWN.

SO IF YOU TALK TO JOE PETTY AND TO LESLIE BOWERY, THEY HAVE UH, THE COUNTY TOURISM PROGRAM.

YES.

I MET WITH LESLIE.

LESLIE CAME OUT JUST BEFORE CHRISTMAS AND WE GAVE HER A TOUR AND KIND OF SHOWED HER WHAT WE DO AND HOW WE DO.

AND UM, SO WE ACTUALLY, I JUST RAN INTO HER WHEN I CAME IN TODAY.

UM, AND SHE'S GONNA SHARE ABOUT OUR, UH, PROJECT LEARNING TREE TRADING.

SO I HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH LESLIE AND JOE ALSO MOVIE INSTEAD OF MOVIE NIGHT DOWNTOWN.

YOU COULD HAVE A MOVIE NIGHT OUT IN THE WOODS.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YEAH.

DOING THINGS AT THE FOUR H CENTER TO BRING THE COMMUNITY OUT.

I'D SAY, UM, HAVING USED IT FOR 30 SOME YEARS NOW, 40 SOME YEARS NOW.

OH, IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE TO TAKE THE CREW AND GO OUT AND STAY OVERNIGHT.

YEAH.

I HAVE MEETINGS TO EXPERIENCE WARREN COUNTY.

YEAH.

YES IT IS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAVE A FEW.

OH, GO AHEAD.

UM, LOOKING AT YOUR LAST, UH, LAST YEAR'S BUDGET REQUEST TO THIS YEAR MM-HMM THAT YOUR BUDGET INCREASED BY 157%.

COULD YOU TELL ME WHY? YEAH.

IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, DO YOU GUYS HAVE MY APPLICATION DO APPLICATION, UH,

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MY DOCUMENTATION PARTNER AGENCY DOCUMENTATION? YES.

FORM.

YES.

I GOT, OKAY.

IF YOU LOOK AT NUMBER SEVEN, SO WHEN WE ASK OUR COUNTY FUNDING REQUESTS, WHAT WE DO IS WE BASE THAT SPECIFICALLY OFF OF CAMPERS SERVED FROM THE PRIOR YEAR.

SO WHEN WE OFFER OUR CAMPS, WE TRY TO DO IT TO BE INCLUSIVE AND ALLOW EVERYONE TO ATTEND.

SO WE TAKE A LOSS OF ABOUT A HUNDRED DOLLARS A CAMPER ON THAT.

LAST YEAR IT WAS A LOSS ABOUT $136,000 FOR THE CENTER.

BUT WE WANT THOSE KIDS TO ATTEND CAMP.

AND ONE OF THE WAYS WE MAKE UP THAT MONEY IS THROUGH THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT REQUESTS.

SO IN 2022 WE HAD 145 CAMPERS, SPECIFICALLY FROM WARREN COUNTY.

AND IN 2023 WE HAD 154.

SO WE TAKE THAT LOSS OF A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND WE SPLIT IT.

WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO EAT HALF, AND THEN WE ASK ALL THE 19 COUNTIES THAT WE SERVE TO HELP US MAKE UP THE OTHER HALF.

SO THE DELTA IS JUST HELPING THE INCREASE IN CAMPER AND NOT ANY OPERATIONAL.

CORRECT.

IT'S 100% CAMPER SCHOLARSHIP IS WHAT THAT GOES TO.

OKAY.

JUST WITH THIS.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

AND THEN, UM, LOOKING AT YOUR FINANCIAL INFORMATION HERE, I SEE LO UH, YOU HAVE LOCALITY ONE THROUGH FIVE WITH THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT THEN THERE'S THREE O UM, OPEN SPACES IF YOU WILL, OF REVENUE.

UH, 5,300.

1200.

1700.

COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT THOSE ARE SLATED? SEND THE REVENUES.

ARE WE LOOKING OH, OKAY.

JUST THE NUMBERS YOU SAID? YEAH, I JUST WANNA KNOW WHERE THEY'RE, THEY WERE OTHER LOCALITIES THAT SERVE US.

SO THOSE WERE OTHER COUNTY GRANTS.

SO I SHOULD HAVE, SORRY.

CONTINUED ON THE DOCUMENTS THAT SIX SEVEN OKAY.

SHOULD BE SIX, SEVEN, AND EIGHT.

YES, MY OKAY, NO WORRIES.

NO WORRIES AT ALL.

AND THEN I SEE DOWN HERE, SO WHAT IS THE PROGRAM SERVICE REVENUE OF A MILLION DOLLARS? SO THAT WOULD BE ALL THE MONEY WE BRING IN FROM SUMMER CAMPS, FROM OUR RETREAT AND CONFERENCE CENTERS, FROM OUR FIELD TRIPS.

SO THAT IS ANY PROGRAM THAT WE ARE OFFERING FROM THE FOUR H CENTER.

OKAY.

WHICH WOULD BE DIFFERENT FROM GRANTS, RIGHT? THOSE CORRECT.

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

YEAH, SO THE PROGRAM THINGS ARE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY PAYING US FOR THE SERVICE.

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

AND, UM, THAT, THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

DO YOU HAVE A FISCAL YEAR? WE RUN JANUARY THROUGH DECEMBER.

OKAY.

SO, UH, THREE 20, THE CALENDAR.

23 ON NUMBER THREE.

PAGE THREE.

OH, PAGE THREE.

SAME NUMBER SEVEN.

UM, SO I JUST LEFT THE FORM HOW I HAD IT AND RECEIVED IT FROM THE COUNTY AND I TRIED TO LIKE, FIX OUR NUMBERS THE BEST I COULD TO FIX.

YEAH.

OKAY.

WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT THE 2025, RIGHT? CORRECT.

YEAH.

UM, I'M JUST, I'M JUST NOTICING IN, IN 23 THAT THE TOTAL FUNDING WAS 1.3 MILLION TOTAL EXPENSES, ONE POINT MILLION MORE UP 25 ON PROFIT LOSS, UM, .

YEAH.

AND I WOULD HAVE TO GET WITH OUR, UM, FINANCIAL DIRECTOR 'CAUSE I SIT DOWN WITH HER TO HELP ME RUN THESE NUMBERS.

AND MY GUESS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IT WOULD BE WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE IT MATCH THE COUNTY FISCAL CYCLE.

SO LIKE THIS IS OUR FISCAL CYCLE FROM JANUARY TO DECEMBER, BUT WE WERE TRYING TO LOOK AT LIKE JULY THROUGH JUNE.

SO IF, IF WE HAD A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS LIKE THAT MM-HMM.

, IF WE, IF MEGAN EMAILED THEM TO YOU, COULD YOU GET US A YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

ANSWER FOR THEM THAT WE COULD AND LET YOU LOOK IT UP.

MM-HMM.

IF THE, THE NET, IF THERE'S NET INCOME, UM, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.

INTO THE NEXT YEAR PROGRAM, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING 2020 ALREADY GONE.

2024.

WELL I STARTED, BUT IT'S ALREADY ED, BUT WE'RE REALLY DEALING AT 2025.

YES.

THE CAMPING CAMP FROM 45

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TO 1 54 IS 10.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF VICKY ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT THE 23 TO 24 FROM 3050, BUT AT RATE, SO LA IF YOU LOOK AT THE 22, 23, SO WE REQUESTED MORE, BUT WE WERE ONLY GRANTED THE 3000, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

ALRIGHT, WELL JUST, JUST WANTING TO, TO ASK THE TEAM THAT, UM, FUNDING LINES UP.

MM-HMM.

.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

OTHER THAN THAT WE DEFINITELY THE KIDS QUITE A LOT.

IT'S MEMORABLE, RIGHT? THEY'LL BE LIKE, OH YEAH, THAT ONE TIME.

BUT THEN WE GOT ASH ON AT THE FIREWORKS OUT OF FOUR H.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM MS. TE? THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

AND YEAH, SEND ME, HAVE MEGAN SEND ME ANY QUESTIONS IN A FOLLOW UP EMAIL AND I'LL WORK TO GET THOSE FOR YOU.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT ON SUCH A DREARY NIGHT.

YES, I KNOW.

YEAH.

CHERYL MESSAGED ME.

OH WELL OUR CHART SHOWS THAT WE HAD UM, 3000 IN FUNDING LAST YEAR.

CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT I TOLD HERE, BUT I PUT IT IN THE WRONG COLUMN.

I THINK I PUT IT IN THE WRONG COLUMN.

I PUT IT OVER HERE.

BUT IT SHOULD BE HERE ALSO.

THIS IS WHAT WE ASKED FOR LAST YEAR.

SO THAT THIS WAS A REQUEST.

THAT WAS THE REQUEST, BUT WHAT WOULD, WHAT THE COUNTY AWARDED WAS THE THREE.

OKAY.

'CAUSE THEY HELD ALL THE AGENCIES HARMLESS LAST YEAR.

OKAY.

SO THEN I PUT THE WRONG NUMBER THERE.

BUT THERE IS, UH, TOURISM.

MM-HMM.

TALK TO JOE.

OKAY.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

YEAH, JOE HAS TOURISM THAT HE CAN.

OKAY.

YEAH, I THINK THE 3000 THAT'S IN YOUR SPREADSHEET IS WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR, FISCAL YEAR IS WHAT WE DID.

'CAUSE WE DID NOT RAISE ANY OF THE AGENCIES LAST YEAR.

AND ACTUALLY WHILE YOU'RE HEADED OUT THE DRIVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION RELATED TO THAT.

SO IF FOR WARREN, YOU PUT WHAT YOU REQUESTED AND NOT WHAT YOU ACTUALLY GOT, IS THAT THE SAME CASE FOR THE OTHER LOCALITIES ON HERE? DID YOU PUT WHAT YOU REQUESTED? NO, I JUST, OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

AND PERFECT TIMING

[D. 7:00 - 7:20 PM - Budget Presentation - Lord Fairfax Soil and Water ]

ON LORD FAIRFAX OIL AND WATER.

YOU'RE UP NEXT.

, LOOK AT THAT .

UM, YOU MIGHT SEE TWO OTHER PEOPLE COME IN AND JOIN US.

UM, AS SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW, UM, IN THE RECENT ELECTION WE HAVE TWO NEW ELECTED DIRECTORS REPRESENTING MOORE COUNTY.

AND SO IF YOU'VE SEEN MR. HUDDLESON AND MS. BRICKER, UH, WALK IN.

YEAH, NO, ABSOLUTELY.

.

UM, AND WE HAVE TWO NEW BOARD MEMBERS, SO IF YOU COULD INTRODUCE YOURSELVES.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

UM, SO LIKE I SAID, YOU MIGHT SEE TWO PEOPLE WALK IN AND JOIN US STRAIGHT TO THE PODIUM.

UM, BUT MY NAME IS ALLISON POND AND I'M THE EDUCATION AND PROGRAM SUPPORT SPECIALIST WITH THE LORD FAIRFAX SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT.

AND I'M DANA OW.

I'M THE SUPERVISING GRADUATION SPECIALIST.

I LEAD OUR TECHNICAL STAFF.

ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL JUST JUMP INTO IT.

I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE, UM, FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE DO, UH, BUT SOME OF YOU MIGHT NEED A LITTLE BIT OF REFRESHER.

UM, SO THE STATE OF VIRGINIA IS BROKEN UP INTO 47 DIFFERENT SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS.

AND EACH ONE OF THEM LOOKS DIFFERENTLY AND FUNCTIONS DIFFERENTLY.

UM, FOR US HERE IN OUR LITTLE CORNER OF THE STATE, WE COVER SHENANDOAH, WARREN CLARK IN FREDERICK COUNTY AS WELL AS THE CITY OF WINCHESTER.

AND SO THE WAY THAT WE'RE STRUCTURED IS PRETTY ODD .

UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER AND EACH OF THEM HAVE DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY THAT ARE TIED TO THEM.

UM, AND SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE OUR MAIN, UM,

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PROGRAM THAT WE OFFER IS THE AGRICULTURAL COST SHARE PROGRAM, WHICH IS THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION AND RECREATION.

WE ALSO HAVE A COST SHARE PROGRAM THAT WE OFFER FOR LANDOWNERS TO INSTALL URBAN BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.

AND THAT, UM, MONIES COMES FROM THE VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION OF SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS.

AND THEN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO HERE LOCALLY IN OUR DISTRICT REGARDING EDUCATION, INFORMATION OUTREACH, UM, OUR ANNUAL AWARDS LUNCHEON, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT MORE LATER, IS FUNDED, UM, THROUGH OUR COUNTIES.

AND SO, UM, THAT IS WHY WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR PROGRAMS AND ALSO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

SO DID YOU WANNA START US OFF WITH TALKING ABOUT VAX? SURE.

SO, UH, WE'VE BEEN VERY BUSY THE LAST FEW YEARS.

WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO GET LARGE AMOUNTS OF COST SHARE DOLLARS FROM THE STATE FOR THE AGRICULTURAL COST SHARE PROGRAM.

UM, ALL OF THAT MONEY GOES TO FARMERS AND LANDOWNERS ACROSS OUR LOCALITIES.

AND, UM, CURRENTLY WE ARE WORKING ON, UM, WE DO A LOT OF PROJECTS LIKE STREAM EXCLUSION, UM, MANURE MANAGEMENT, COVER CROPS, TREE PLANTINGS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

UM, CURRENTLY WE'RE WORKING ON STREAM FENCING PROJECTS TOTALING ABOUT 10.2 MILES OF STREAM FENCING.

UM, SO EXCLUDING LIVESTOCK FROM WATERWAYS FROM OUR RIVERS AND STREAMS. UM, AND TO PROTECT THOSE SENSITIVE WATER FEATURES, WE'VE GOT, UM, ALMOST 8,000 ACRES OF WINTER COVER CROPS.

SO, UM, THAT'LL BE THINGS LIKE SMALL GRAINS RYE, WHEAT BARLEY, UM, THAT FARMERS PLANT AFTER THEIR CORN AND SOYBEANS TO KEEP THAT GROUND COVERED OVER THE WINTER.

UM, WE'VE GOT A HUN OVER 150 ACRES OF ROW CROP GROUND BEING CONVERTED TO HAER PASTURE, WHICH MEANS LOWER, UM, NUTRIENT INPUTS ON THAT ACREAGE.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST BETTER COVER YEAR ROUND, UM, 14 ACRES OF RIPARIAN BUFFERS BEING CREATED AND, UM, 16 ACRES OF TREES BEING PLANTED.

SO, UH, SINCE 2015, THAT WAS KIND OF A, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT 2015 AND AFTER, BECAUSE THAT WAS WHEN, UH, THE STATE OFFERED A HUNDRED PERCENT COST SHARE REIMBURSEMENT ON STREAM FENCING PROGRAMS. AND SINCE THEN WE'VE INSTALLED OVER A HUN OVER $1.5 MILLION WORTH OF, UM, STREAM FENCING PROJECTS IN WARREN COUNTY ALONE.

AND, UM, SO THAT'S BEEN, AND AND WE STILL DO A LOT OF THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS.

PEOPLE SORT OF THOUGHT MAYBE THAT INTEREST WOULD DIE OFF ONCE A HUNDRED PERCENT OPTION KIND OF CHANGED AND NOW YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LONGER CONTRACT, CREATE A WIDER BUFFER TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT THAN YOU DID WHEN IT WAS FIRST OFFERED.

BUT INTEREST HAS STILL BEEN INCREDIBLY HIGH.

THE LANDOWNERS ARE, ARE WILLING TO DO THAT, WHICH CREATES A BETTER ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT.

UM, SO YEAH, JUST IN GENERAL, WE'VE GOT $5.5 MILLION WORTH OF COST SHARE THIS FISCAL YEAR.

WE'VE ALLOCATED 47, YEAH, ABOUT 47% OF IT SO FAR.

UM, WE'LL PROBABLY ALLOCATE ANOTHER FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND AT OUR NEXT MEETING ON THURSDAY.

SO YEAH, WE SHOULD BE HOVERING AT 50 COUPLE PERCENT BY THE END OF THE WEEK.

SO WE'VE STILL GOT A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH LANDOWNERS TO PLAN OUT AND, AND THAT THEY'LL BE ASKING FOR APPROVAL FOR.

SO A LOT GOING ON.

YEAH.

SO, UM, ONE THING I WANTED TO MENTION, JUST BECAUSE THIS IS, UM, AN SOMETHING THAT'S COME UP IN THE PAST YEAR IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE'RE SEEING SUCH A BIG PUSH FOR THESE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES ON THE AGRICULTURAL SIDE AND IN THE URBAN SIDE IS ALL BECAUSE OF THE CHESAPEAKE BAY CLEANUP.

UM, AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK INTO THAT LEGISLATION.

UM, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY TALK ABOUT IT, UM, HERE TODAY OR WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AFTER.

BUT THE DEADLINE MOVED FROM 2025 TO 2028.

AND SO AGAIN, GIVING US MORE TIME TO GET SOME OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE GROUND, GIVING US MORE TIME TO WORK WITH LANDOWNERS RIGHT NOW, WE WORK ON THAT, WORK WITH THEM ON A VOLUNTARY BASIS.

UM, AND THE STATE HAS COMMITTED TO SUSTAINED FUNDING.

UM, IT'S JUST THAT THE FUNDING THAT WE GET FOR THE STATE IS TIED DIRECTLY TO THAT PROGRAM AND MONEY GOING DIRECTLY TO FARMERS.

UM, AND SO WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO WORK WITH NOW, WHICH WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT BECAUSE LIKE DANA SAID, WE DO STILL HAVE A VERY HIGH INTEREST IN OUR PROGRAMS. UM, SWITCHING TO THE VIRGINIA CONSERVATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM OR WHAT WE LIKE TO CALL VCAP, THAT IS OUR URBAN BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.

SO ABSOLUTELY SMALLER SCALE THINGS LIKE RAIN GARDENS

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AND THINGS TO HELP CONTROL AND MITIGATE STORM WATER, WHICH EVERYONE IS EXPERIENCING TODAY, .

UM, SO WE HAVE REALLY TRIED TO IMPROVE THAT PROGRAM HERE IN OUR JURISDICTION.

UM, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE PROJECTS HERE AND THERE OVER THE YEARS, UM, BUT IT'S REALLY STARTING TO HIT LIKE A HEIGHT, UM, OF INTEREST.

WE ACTUALLY JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED A PROJECT HERE IN WARREN COUNTY, A CONSERVATION LANDSCAPING PROJECT THAT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT.

UM, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GROW THAT PROGRAM.

IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S A STATEWIDE PROGRAM.

WE'RE TRYING TO GROW, UM, THE AWARENESS AND THE OUTREACH REGARDING THAT PROGRAM, BUT WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE IT TAKE OFF AS FAR AS EDUCATION AND OUTREACH.

UM, ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF DOING IS DOING ALL OF THE K THROUGH 12 COLLEGE ADULT EDUCATION, UM, OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT OUR JURISDICTION.

UM, AND SO ONE OF THE BIG ONES THAT WE DO, WHICH IT'S FUNNY YOU JUST TALKED TO THE FOUR H CENTER, UH, 'CAUSE LAST YEAR WE ACTUALLY HELD OUR ANNUAL IN HON COMPETITION, WHICH IS A NATURAL RESOURCES COMPETITION FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.

WE ROTATE IT BETWEEN ALL OF OUR COUNTIES EACH YEAR.

LAST YEAR WE HELD IT HERE IN WARREN COUNTY AND I THINK MS. COLORS, YOU CAME FOR THE DAY.

UM, WE HOSTED IT AT THE FOUR H CENTER.

WE HAD SEVEN TEAMS PARTICIPATING, UM, FROM ALL ACROSS OUR JURISDICTION.

UM, THEY WERE TAGGING TREES AND THEY WERE IN A SOIL PIT AND THEY WERE GIVING PRESENTATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT WAS A VERY FUN DAY.

UM, AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH THAT PROGRAM HERE LOCALLY AND WE'VE HAD SUCCESS WITH THOSE TEAMS LOCALLY.

THEN ALSO MOVING ON TO REGIONALS AND MOVING ON TO STATES.

SO IT'S BEEN REALLY FUN TO SEE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT.

I CONTINUE TO WORK WITH, UM, OUR SCIENCE AND AGRICULTURE CLASSES AT BOTH SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL AND WARREN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL.

UM, WORKING WITH MS. BUCKLAND WITH MEADOWS, UM, MR. KENNY AT A, UH, AP ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE.

UH, DIFFERENT CLASSES THAT I FEEL AND THE TEACHERS FEEL OVERLAP WITH SOIL AND WATER QUALITY.

SO WE DO A LOT OF SOIL LABS WHERE WE'RE TEXTURING AND THE KIDS ARE GETTING THEIR HANDS DIRTY AND, UM, TALKING ABOUT SOIL PARTICLES.

AND THEN WE'LL GO OUTSIDE AND PULL SOIL SAMPLES AND SEE IF THEY CAN TRY TO IDENTIFY IT.

WE'LL DO WATER QUALITY ASSESSMENTS WHERE WE ACTUALLY GO AND POSSIBLY GET INTO THE RIVER AND PULL MACRO INVERTEBRATES, UM, AND SORT THOSE AND IDENTIFY POLLUTION LEVELS BASED ON THOSE MACROS.

SO VERY HANDS-ON ENGAGING ACTIVITIES THAT TIE REALLY WELL TO THOSE STANDARDS WITHIN, UM, THE SCHOOLS HERE IN VIRGINIA AND SPECIFICALLY HERE IN WARREN COUNTY.

UM, I MENTIONED COLLEGE STUDENTS.

WE HAVE A COUPLE COLLEGE STUDENTS THAT REACH OUT ABOUT DIFFERENT, UM, PROGRAMS AND PRACTICUM.

HELLO, COME ON IN.

UM, , UH, DIFFERENT PRACTICUM PROJECTS.

I'M HOPEFUL TO GET ANOTHER STUDENT FROM THE SMITHSONIAN MASON SCHOOL OF CONSERVATION THIS SEMESTER.

I'VE ALWAYS HAD, UM, A LOT OF GREAT LUCK WITH THOSE STUDENTS DURING PROJECTS HERE LOCALLY.

UM, WE PART PARTICIPATE EVERY YEAR IN THE EARTH DAY CELEBRATION, AND I JUST SAW JUSTIN PROCTOR TODAY AND HE ALREADY TOLD ME THE DATE, WHICH IS SUNDAY, APRIL 21ST.

HE TOLD ME TO MARK MY CALENDAR.

SO WE WILL BE THERE AGAIN THIS YEAR.

AND WE ARE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF, UM, PLANNING OUT HOW WE CAN BE A PART OF THE SUMMER READING PROGRAMS AT SAMUEL, UH, PUBLIC LIBRARY.

WE HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

WE DID A COUPLE PROGRAMS BEFORE COVID.

UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT WAS ONE OF THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT, UM, WE NOW HAVE A CHANCE TO REBOOT.

UM, NOW THAT, UH, THINGS ARE KIND OF BACK TO THE WAY.

UM, BACK TO FULL MOTION, I GUESS I'LL SAY .

I'LL KEEP TALKING, UM, BECAUSE THE AWARDS IS NEXT AND THAT'S ALSO ME.

UM, SO I BELIEVE, MAN, YOU, YOU'VE COME INTO ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS. I LOVE THAT YOU ATTENDED OUR ANNUAL AWARDS LUNCHEON THIS PAST YEAR.

UM, SO EVERY YEAR WE HOLD A LUNCHEON TO RECOGNIZE LOCAL CONSERVATION HEROES THAT HAVE DONE GREAT WORK, UM, ON THEIR FARMS AND THEIR COMMUNITY, WHAT HAVE YOU.

UM, HERE IN WARREN COUNTY, WE RECOGNIZED KYLE HUNTLEY OF SYCAMORE SPRING FARMS. UM, WE GAVE HIM THE WARREN COUNTY DISTRICT FARM AWARD.

UM, SO HE INSTALLED A STREAM EXCLUSION PROJECT THAT PROTECTED OVER 6,000 LINEAR FEET OF WILLOWBROOK.

UM, AND HE CHOSE A 15 YEAR CONTRACT LIFESPAN AND A 50 FOOT SETBACK, WHICH IS LIKE THE MAXIMUM BEST CHOICES THAT YOU CAN MAKE.

UM, HE CREATED A 10 ACRE RIPARIAN BUFFER AND HE ALSO DECIDED TO PLANT THAT BUFFER WITH HARDWOOD TREES.

SO AGAIN, WENT THE EXTRA STEP, PLANTED AN UPLAND PASTURE, UM, SIX ONE ACRES INTO TREES ADDITIONALLY TO HELP WITH, UM, THAT STABILIZATION.

AND HE IMPROVED THROUGH ALL THOSE PROJECTS, IMPROVED 137 ACRES, UM, OF GRAZING ON HIS OPERATION.

UM, AND SO IT'S JUST, IT'S

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A REALLY GREAT PROJECT, A REALLY GREAT SHOWCASE OF WHAT THE, UH, VIRGINIA AGRICULTURE CULTURE SHARE PROGRAM TO CAN DO FOR A FARMER.

UM, WE ALSO RECOGNIZE SEVEN BEN'S NURSERY WHOSE NURSERY IS LOCATED HERE IN WARREN COUNTY, UM, FOR THE VCAP PARTNERSHIP AWARD.

THEY'VE DONE A REALLY GREAT JOB AT, UM, PROMOTING THE VCA PROGRAM AND SENDING LANDOWNERS THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO THEM TO SEND THEM TO US SO THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY GET THEM COST SHARE.

UM, AND LIKE I SAID, THE ONE PRACTICE THAT WE COMPLETED HERE IN WARREN COUNTY LAST YEAR WAS ACTUALLY FILTERED THROUGH SEVEN BENDS NURSERY, WHICH IS PRETTY COOL.

UM, AND THEN LASTLY, UM, AS SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER, UM, MR. HOOVER, HE WAS OUR CHAIRMAN AND HE WAS ON OUR BOARD FOR 16 YEARS, UM, DECIDED TO NOT RUN FOR REELECTION.

UM, AND HE JUST IS LEAVING SUCH A LEGACY AS OUR CHAIR.

AND SO WE AWARDED HIM WITH THE DIRECTOR OF THE YEAR AWARD.

UM, ALONG WITH HIM, UM, IRA OR BUCK RICHARDS, HE WAS OUR OTHER ELECTED DIRECTOR.

HE CHOSE NOT TO RUN FOR REELECTION.

HE IS STAYING ON OUR BOARD AS AN ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR.

UM, BUT HE GAVE 12 YEARS OF SERVICE AS AN ELECTED BOARD MEMBER.

SO WE HAD, UM, A NICE PINNING CEREMONY FOR ALL OF THE DIRECTORS THAT CHOSE TO RETIRE FROM OUR BOARD THIS YEAR.

UM, BUT IT WAS REALLY, UH, SPECIAL TO BE ABLE TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN, MR. HOOVER AND ALL THAT HE'S DONE FOR OUR BOARD.

SPEAKING OF OUR BOARD, DO YOU WANNA STAND UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELVES? SURE.

UH, I'M, AND WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE THEM.

YES, THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN TO A FEW MEETINGS AND HAVE ALREADY STARTED GETTING INVOLVED WITH DIFFERENT COMMITTEES AND THINGS ON OUR BOARD, SO YOU ARE WELL REPRESENTED AND WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE THEM.

AND WE'RE, I THINK ALL THE STAFF ARE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THEM, UM, IN THE UPCOMING YEARS BECAUSE LIKE I, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE ALREADY VERY INVOLVED, SO WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS FOR COMING.

UH, DO YOU WANNA GIVE THE STAFF UPDATE? UM, CURRENTLY OUR, OUR TECHNICAL STAFF IS MYSELF.

AND THEN WE HAVE NICK LEVI, UM, SABRINA HUTZEL, BEN LLOYD IS OUR NEWEST HIRE.

UM, AND THEN MADISON COFFEY, OF COURSE ALL OF OUR EDUCATION PROGRAMMING AND OUR COVER CROP PROGRAM RUNS THROUGH ALLISON.

AND THEN WE HAVE A TECHNICAL ASSISTANT, SAM SHELTON, AND THEN OUR ADMINISTRATIVE SPECIALIST, SARAH FLEMING, WHO KEEPS THE WHEELS FROM FALLING OFF.

UM, AND WE COULDN'T DO WHAT WE DO WITHOUT THEM.

AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE SUPPORT OF OUR LOCALITIES BECAUSE THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE DOLLARS THAT COME THROUGH THE STATE COST SHARE PROGRAM SUPPORTS OUR TECHNICAL STAFF.

BUT OUR EDUCATION EFFORTS AND OUR EDUCATION STAFF AND OUR ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, WE CAN'T USE THOSE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE DOLLARS FOR THOSE POSITIONS.

SO YOU'RE ALL'S SUPPORT IS HOW WE HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT AND EDUCATION STAFFING.

SO THAT'S KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BETTER.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE A COPY OF THE SHEET THAT WE JUST KIND OF REFERENCED THROUGHOUT, UM, OUR PRESENTATION OR WE ALSO BROUGHT COPIES OF OUR ANNUAL REPORT THAT SHOWS ALL OF THE COMPLETED NUMBERS FROM LAST YEAR OF ALL THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND THINGS THAT WE DO.

I WOULD LIKE A COPY.

OKAY, GREAT.

I WAS GONNA SAY, I THINK PROBABLY EVERYONE WOULD LIKE ONE IF YOU WANT THEM.

OKAY.

AND IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS, WE WANNA DO THOSE ANSWER.

WE'LL DO THESE.

YEAH.

AND THEN WE CAN FILTER QUESTIONS WHILE WE PASS THINGS FIVE.

UM, BUT I CAN TO ANY ON THAT .

SO LIKE I SAID, UM, THE SHEET THAT ZANA PASSED OUT IS YEAR TO DATE NUMBERS, WHEREAS THE ANNUAL REPORT IS COMPLETED NUMBERS FROM ALL OF LAST.

SO WE RUN JULY 1ST, JUNE.

AND SO THAT'LL GIVE YOU A SNAPSHOT OF THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED AND THOSE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE CITED TODAY, UM, IN THE YEAR TO DATE NUMBERS THAT I WAS CITING INCLUDE EVERYTHING THAT'S CURRENTLY GOING ON.

SO SOME OF IT WAS FUNDED IN PREVIOUS FISCAL YEARS, SOME OF IT WAS FROM FY 24, BUT IT'S ALL STUFF THAT IS STILL BEING INSTALLED.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? A

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I THINK IT MIGHT BE THREE.

WE HAVE 24 BUDGET FUNDING.

1,000,007 3007 66.

I'M PRETTY SURE THERE'S JUST A, SOME, SOME CATEGORY THAT'S NOT ANY ON THIS SHEET BECAUSE THERE'S LIKE A THREE $50,000 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EXPENSES AND FUNDING.

WHICH SHEET ARE YOU? WELL, IT'S PAGE FIVE OF THE, OF THE APPLICATION.

OH, WE DIDN'T BRING THE FULL APPLICATION WITH US.

UM, DO YOU HAVE A FISCAL YEAR OF JULY? MM-HMM.

.

PART OF WHAT MAKES THE NUMBERS LOOK STRANGE FOR US IS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT YOUR TYPICAL NON-PROFIT.

WE'RE A POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF STATE GOVERNMENT.

THANK YOU .

APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY.

CAN YOU, UM, REPEAT YOUR QUESTION JUST SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

LOOKING AT 23 ON THE TOP SECTION OF THAT PAGE FIVE TOTAL FUNDING OF 1 MILLION, 32,000 AND THE BOTTOM NUMBERS, EXPENSES OF 643,000.

THERE'S, THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING.

SO, OKAY.

YEAH.

SO, UM, THAT'S WHERE IT GETS TRICKY BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE POTS OF MONEY ARE TIED TO SPECIFIC THINGS.

AND SO WHEN WE SPEND THE $5.5 MILLION OF VAX MONEY THAT WE GOT THIS YEAR, THERE IS ALSO A SEPARATE POT OF MONEY TIED TO IT THAT WE CALL TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE FUNDS THAT THEN COME THROUGH AND PAY FOR TECHNICAL STAFF SALARIES.

AND SO, UM, I THINK WHAT SOME OF THOSE, AND IF WE SPEND THE FULL 5.5 MILLION, THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE THAT WE GET IS MORE THAN WHAT A YEARLY BUDGET REQUIRES FOR OUR TECHNICAL STAFF SALARY.

BUT WE AREN'T ALLOWED TO USE THAT MONEY FOR ANY OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO.

SO WHERE DOES THAT MONEY GO TO? WE, WE CAN KEEP IT IN RESERVE OR WE CAN GIVE IT BACK TO DCR R AND THEN THEY JUST TURN IT ON AND GIVE IT BACK TO US IN THE FUTURE FISCAL YEAR.

SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU HAVE A SURPLUS ONLY FOR THINGS LIKE TECHNICAL? SO NONE OF WHAT WE USE COUNTY FUNDS FOR HAS A SURPLUS AND NONE OF THE FUNDS, NONE OF THE MONEY THAT WE DO HAVE CAN BE USED FOR WHAT WE USE THE COUNTY FUNDS FOR.

SO I CAN'T USE THAT MONEY FOR EDUCATION AND FOR THE ANNUAL AWARDS LUNCHEON AND FOR OUR YOUTH SCHOLARSHIPS AND FOR SUMMER CAMPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT REALLY DRIVE TO LIKE CITIZEN AWARENESS AND UM, AND LIKE STUDENT ENGAGEMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, 'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, EACH POT OF MONEY IS TIED TO SOMETHING SPECIFIC.

DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE A, I SAY IT MAKES SENSE.

NO, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

I'M SORRY.

DO YOU HAVE A BUDGET, UM, AUDIT REPORT FROM THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR THAT WE CAN LOOK AT? WE DO NOT GIVE UP TONIGHT.

COULD YEAH, COULD YOU SEND IT? YEAH, I THINK THAT WILL ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS IF WE CAN SEE THAT.

OKAY.

DO YOU HAVE THAT? IS THAT WHAT THIS IS? IF OUR, IF AN AUDIT WAS REQUESTED WITH OUR PACKET THAT I KNOW THAT SARAH SENT, IT SHOULD BE IN THE FOLDER TONIGHT? NOPE.

OH, I, YEAH, HERE IT IS.

YEP.

YEP.

I I STAND CORRECTED THOSE.

THANK THAT TOTAL FUNDING IS INCLUDING THAT TA MONEY THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

MM-HMM.

IT'S INCLUDING, UM, ANOTHER PI LIKE IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE FOUR, IT CONTINUES FROM PAGE FOUR.

IT BREAKS DOWN, UM, THOSE DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY.

AND I, LIKE I SAID, WE KNOW THAT THIS IS CONFUSING, CONFUSING.

UM, WE'RE NOT THE ONES THAT DO THE BUDGET, BUT IF THERE IS ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, WE'D BE HAPPY TO CONNECT YOU WITH SARAH FLEMING, WHO IS OUR ADMINISTRATIVE SPECIALIST.

UM, SHE'S THE ONE THAT DID THIS PORTION OF THE PACKET.

UM, BUT THOSE NUMBERS ARE INCLUDING POTS OF MONIES, LIKE I SAID, THAT ARE ONLY TIED TO ONE SPECIFIC THING.

SO A BIG PORTION OF THAT IS THE TECH STAFF SALARIES THAT YOU'RE SEEING.

SO THE MONEY THAT YOU GET IS NOT, YOU'RE NOT USING IT FOR ANY OF YOUR, UM, DESCRIBED PROGRAMS THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING THIS EVENING? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH, WE WERE NOT ALLOWED.

YEAH.

WE CAN'T.

OKAY.

SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN THAT THOSE REVENUES SHOULD HAVE BEEN PULLED OUT OF THIS BUDGET BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT FUNDING ANY PROJECTS THAT THOSE OTHER

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FUNDING, UH, THAT THE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES GO TO, THEN THAT WOULDN'T BE PART OF THIS PORTFOLIO.

RIGHT.

WE, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS, WE TOY WITH IT EVERY YEAR OF LIKE WHETHER WE SHOULD PUT THIS IN THERE.

I MEAN WE, WE ARE JUST LIKE FULL DISCLOSURE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? OH, ABSOLUTELY.

NO, BUT THAT'S NICE TO HEAR BECAUSE AGAIN, EVERY YEAR IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE KIND OF LIKE, IT'S, I DUNNO HOW TO PHRASE IT, BUT LIKE DIG OUR HOLE DEEPER BY LIKE SHOWING EVERYTHING RIGHT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BUT IT'S LIKE WE DON'T WANNA HIDE THAT OBVIOUSLY, BUT LIKE I SAID, NONE OF THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE MONIES THAT WE GET FROM YOU ALL OR FROM THE OTHER LOCAL YEAH.

LOCALITIES, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO, SO WHEN I READ ALL OF YOUR, THE, UM, UH, THE AGENCY INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, ONE THROUGH, WHAT IS IT SIX? IS IT ALL OF THOSE ACTIVITIES ARE WHAT? SPEED, UM, THAT ADD UP INTO YOUR EXPENDITURES, RIGHT? SO YOUR REVENUE WOULD ONLY BE THE REVENUE THAT YOU'RE USING OR YOU'RE GETTING FROM OTHER SOURCES TO PAY FOR WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING HERE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

MM-HMM, .

OKAY.

SO THAT, SO I, YOU KNOW, I'M MAKING AN ASSUMPTION, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU, MR. JAMESON OR NOT, BUT, BUT YEAH, SO I MEAN, WE WANNA, IT'S KIND OF LIKE SCOPE OF WORK, YOU KNOW, .

YEAH.

YEAH.

WE DEFINITELY WANNA, UM, LIKE, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK FOR US TO KNOW WE WILL CLEAN THIS UP NEXT YEAR.

UM, BUT YEAH, SO IN ONE THROUGH SIX WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND THE BENEFITS THAT WE'VE GIVEN TO WARREN COUNTY, WE STILL WANNA HIGHLIGHT THOSE JUST BECAUSE, I MEAN, THE DRINKING WATER COMES FROM THE RIVER AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL CONNECTED THROUGH WATERWAYS AND WATERSHEDS AND STUFF, SO WE WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW ABOUT THAT.

BUT YEAH, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

YEAH.

IF, IF ANY OF THIS FUNDING IS NOT, IS NOT BEING USED WITH THE DESCRIPTION OF WORK, IF YOU WILL, THEN I WOULDN'T INCLUDE IT HERE, YOU KNOW? OKAY.

BUT LET ME ASK THIS ONE QUESTION NOW.

SO WHEN I LOOK AT YOUR REVENUES, WHAT POT OF MONEY IS NOT THAT, THAT SHOULD BE REMOVED? IS THAT THE, UM, OTHER FUNDING, ADDITIONAL STATE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE OF THE 515 K? YES.

YEAH, SO LIKE THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE OPERATIONS, THE TA FUNDS, UM, THE OTHER FUNDING MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

ALL OF THOSE BIG CHUNKS.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO, SO IF I LOOK AT THIS OTHER FUNDING, IF THE 550, UH, WELL, WE'LL DO THE PRIOR, THE 477 K, THOSE FUNDS CANNOT BE USED FOR ALL THESE ACTIVITIES YOU JUST DESCRIBED AND PROGRAMS OUTSIDE OF THE VS PROGRAM.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE, OKAY.

I I THINK IT'S, BUT THAT, THAT THE CONTEXT THAT WE'RE ASKING TO PARTICIPATE IN SHOULD BE, SHOULD BE LIMITED TO.

OKAY.

THAT THAT WAS YEAH, NO, I UNDERSTAND.

BECAUSE JUST, JUST SIMPLY LOOKING AT FUNDING OF, OF A MILLION AND EXPENSES OF 640,000 LOAN, WELL YOU STOLE MY QUESTION.

.

BUT NO, LIKE I SAID, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE TOY WITH LIKE EVERY SINGLE YEAR OF IF WE SHOULD BE INCLUDING THESE NUMBERS OR NOT.

YEAH.

AND THE FACT THAT IN ORDER TO INCLUDE THEM, WE HAVE TO DO THIS KIND OF EXPLANATION, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT ACTUALLY CLEAR THINGS UP.

, I QUICK NOTE THAT THAT SAYS THERE'S A WHOLE RANGE OF INCOME.

MM-HMM, .

YEAH.

BUT IT'S NOT IN, IN THE, UNDER THE ROOF OF THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE USING OUR, OUR FUNDS FOR.

AMAZING.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT WARREN COUNTY AND ALL THESE OTHER LOCALITIES ARE PROBABLY CONTRIBUTING TOWARD THE SAME TYPES OF ACTIVITIES YES.

THAT THE STATE FEDERAL MONEY IS, IS DIFFERENT TYPES OF I UNDER I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YEAH.

MM-HMM.

WELL, LIKE, I THINK FOR OUR BENEFIT TO KEEP THINGS CONSISTENT WHEN WE SEE THIS SORT OF THING, UM, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO EACH OTHER THAT THE FOOTNOTE THAT JUST EXPLAINS THIS ISN'T ALL THE MONEY WE GET MM-HMM.

.

BUT THIS IS THE KIND OF MONEY IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT WE'RE ASKING.

YEAH, THAT'S GR THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I, I REALLY APPRE, I KNOW THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A SIDEBAR, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THIS, IT'S SOMETHING WE STRUGGLE WITH EVERY YEAR AND AND WE'RE ONE OF THOSE, LIKE SHE SAID, POLITICAL SUB BODIES THAT JUST, IT'S ALMOST GETS CHAOTIC WHERE YOU, WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO KIND OF NAVIGATE WHAT GOES WHERE.

SO WHEN I STARTED AT THE DISTRICT 10 YEARS AGO, WE GOT $600,000 WORTH OF COST SHARE AND WE THOUGHT WE HAD BIG MONEY , YOU KNOW, AND THEN LAST YEAR WE GOT $8.4 MILLION AND WE'RE LIKE, OH MY GOD, .

YEAH.

WE'RE LIKE, HOW ARE YOU GONNA SPEND IT? WE'RE LIKE, WHAT? WE DID IT, BUT WE TRIED, WE TRIED REALLY NOT, BUT SO YEAH.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE UNDERSTAND HOW CONFUSING IT GETS WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ALL THAT MONEY DOES.

YEAH.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU GUYS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

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YEAH.

UM, LOOKING, AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR, BUT WHEN I SEE THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS AND YOU HAVE THE, UM, THE TEXTS AND THEY'RE SAYING THE DISTRICT WILL NOT FIND OUT OUR STATE FUNDING UNTIL APRIL, 2024.

SO, AND I KNOW WHEN OUR BUDGET, WE HAVE TO HAVE IT APPROVED BY END OF MARCH.

IS IT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR BUDGET APPROVED BY THE END OF JUNE.

END OF JUNE TO SET THE TAX RATE BACK IN IT.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

SO, UM, I WAS CURIOUS, HOW DID, HOW DID THE COUNTY HANDLE THIS LAST YEAR? I, WELL, I KNOW WE, EVERYBODY WAS FLAT, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT, THAT'S HOW THE BOARD HANDLED IT LAST YEAR, RIGHT? EVERYBODY WAS FLAT.

RIGHT? THAT'S EXACTLY HOW THEY HANDLED IT, MA'AM.

RIGHT? YEAH.

SO, UM, OKAY.

UM, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IS HOW DO WE ESTIMATE YOUR TOTAL FUNDING? BECAUSE IF THOSE TWO, UM, CATEGORIES ARE NOT FILLED OUT OR WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL APRIL, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TOTAL FUNDING REQUIREMENTS GOING TO BE.

AND WE'RE IN THAT SAME VOTE.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S TERRIFYING AS A DISTRICT, AS STAFF OF A DISTRICT.

UM, HISTORICALLY FUNDING FOR DISTRICTS HAS BEEN A ROLLERCOASTER.

MM-HMM.

AND THEY HAD SUBCOMMITTEES AT THE STATE LEVEL AND WORK GROUPS AND YOU NAME IT, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO STABILIZE THAT FUNDING SO THAT COULD KNOW WITH MORE CERTAINTY WHAT THEY WERE GONNA GET.

BUT AS WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT 2025 AND NOW 2028 DEADLINE AND THE STATE IS TRYING TO COMMIT MORE MONEY TO REACH THOSE, IT'S, THEY HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT HOW TO GET MM-HMM.

, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE JUST DISCUSSED THAT THOSE VERY LARGE FUNDING NUMBERS AREN'T CO-MINGLED WITH THESE LOCALITIES.

RIGHT.

CONTRIBUTION.

MM-HMM.

.

SO ACTUALLY WHETHER YOU GET FUNDING OR DON'T GET FUNDING, IF THOSE, THOSE BUDGET NUMBER DON'T CO-MINGLE WITH THESE MONIES YOU'RE ASKING FOR FROM, IS IT, DOES IT MATTER? I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GONNA GET THAT'S TRUE, 50% OF YOUR FEDERAL BUDGET, WHICH WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO YOU, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO HELP OUT BY PITCHING IN ANOTHER 3000 BUCKS.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO NEXT YEAR IF DANA DOESN'T SHOW UP, YOU KNOW WHY I'M JUST KIDDING.

DANA WILL BE HERE PRESENT.

YEAH, YEAH.

THEN I'LL BE OUT THE DOOR.

RIGHT.

JUST, THAT'S ACTUALLY JUST PUT HER IN THE 550 K .

YEAH.

DR.

STAN MEYER.

DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? WELL, I, YEAH, I HAD A FEW, BUT RICH JUST MADE THE POINT I WAS GONNA MAKE THAT SOME OF THE MONEY'S EARMARKED.

SO IT, IT, IT'S SORT OF IRRELEVANT WHAT YOU GET FROM THE STATE.

UH, UM, JUST LOOKING AT, UH, YOUR REQUEST, IT'S AN INCREASE OF, UM, ABOUT 21% VERSUS WHAT YOU GOT FROM US LAST YEAR.

AND IT'S, UH, AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 10% VERSUS WHAT YOU ASKED FOR LAST YEAR.

UM, SO I'M, I'M WONDERING, DO YOU HAVE, UM, JUST A SENSE THAT THAT'S HOW MUCH YOUR EXPENSES IN THIS, IN THIS EARMARKED CATEGORY ARISING YEAR OVER YEAR, UM, I KNOW YOU HAVE EXPENDITURES ON HERE, UH, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PREDICTED.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THAT IN GENERAL.

RIGHT.

SO A LOT OF THAT, OF COURSE, WE DID ASK FOR A 10% INCREASE OVER WHAT WE REQUESTED LAST YEAR FROM ALL OF OUR LOCALITIES.

AND THAT'S JUST BASED ON THE FACT THAT NOW THAT WE'RE BACK TO STUFF, YOU'RE GOING INTO THE CLASSROOM, WE'RE DOING MORE OUTREACH.

AND SO IT'S JUST A PRODUCT OF SOLUTION AND, AND RAISE, HAVING TO RAISE SOME OF OUR BUDGET ITEMS. TRYING TO INCREASE CAPACITY.

YEAH, INCREASING CAPACITY.

UM, SOMETHING LIKE THE ANNUAL AWARDS LUNCHEON.

UM, PRICES HAVE GONE UP AND SO WE'VE SEEN, UM, SOME OF THOSE INCREASES IN SOME OF OUR BUDGET ITEMS. UM, AND SO WE JUST DID THE 10% FROM ALL LOCALITIES.

OKAY.

AND THAT SORT OF GOES TO MY NEXT QUESTION, WHICH WAS GOING TO BE, UM, HOW, HOW DO YOU TARGET, OR MAYBE IF IT'S A STANDARD INCREASE NOW THAT YOU ASK FOR EACH YEAR, HOW DID YOU INITIALLY SORT OF GO TO EACH COUNTY WITH YOUR SPECIFIC ASK? UH, IS IT BASED ON POPULATION OR STREAM MILES OR, OR NUMBER OF WATER, YOU KNOW, BODIES THAT NEED TO BE PROTECTED? I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY INITIALLY, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE EVER WAS A FORMULA MM-HMM.

FOR MANY, MANY YEARS BEFORE I WAS INVOLVED IN BEING PART OF ACTUALLY FUNDING AND MAKING THESE DUPLICATIONS.

THE NUMBERS WERE JUST VERY FLAT AND THERE, THERE WASN'T ANY RECOGNITION.

IT SEEMED LIKE ON OUR PART OF COSTS ARE INCREASING, WE'RE TRYING TO INCREASE CAPACITY, WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO MORE, PROMOTE MORE, GET OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, RAISE AWARENESS, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

AND YET YOU WE'RE JUST, WE WERE ASKING FOR VERY, VERY SMALL NUMBERS FROM OUR LOCALITY.

LIKE, THIS IS NOT

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WORKING.

UM, SO WE WERE TRYING TO DONE THAT, HAVE GIVEN AN LAST COUPLE YEARS, A SMALL ONE FROM ER COUNTY LAST YEAR, BUT CLARK 200 HAVE OUR FUNDING AT ONE POINT AND THEN UPPED IT AND THEN UPPED IT A LITTLE BIT LAST YEAR.

UM, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOPE.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, .

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME SPEAK WITH YOU.

YEAH.

AND IF THERE IS ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS OR IF YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO REDO THE PAPERWORK FOR THIS YEAR, JUST LET US KNOW.

OKAY.

I, WELL, I, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK OUTTA TUNE.

.

YOU LET ME KNOW.

.

ILL, I'LL LET DR IF YOU WANT US TO CLEAN IT, IT UP FOR THIS YEAR.

I'M SORRY.

AND LIKE I SAID, THAT WAS VERY VALUABLE FEEDBACK AND I APPRECIATE IT.

HAD NO WORRIES.

NO, THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

SO EVERYONE IN OUR STAFF, UM, LIVES WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION.

TWO OF THEM ARE TRANSPLANTS, TWO THE AREA.

BUT, UM, I, UH, GREW UP AND LIVE NOW IN STRASSBURG, BUT I MARRIED A FRONT ROYAL MAN, UH, AND, AND I GREW UP AND STILL LIVE IN WOODSTOCK AND MY FAMILY FARM STATE.

SO YEAH, ALL OF US ARE VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES INVOLVED WITH FARM BUREAU, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, PART OF, AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S DEFINITELY PART OF WHY WE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN OUR PROGRAMMING IS BECAUSE PEOPLE KNOW WHO OUR PARENTS WERE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO IT DEFINITELY, I THINK HELPS BUILD SOME OF THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, UM, WITH OUR FARMERS AND THE DIFFERENT OPERATIONS THAT WE'RE FROM HERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW, UH, WITH, WITH THE COST SHARE PROGRAM IN PARTICULAR, MM-HMM.

BEING VOLUNTARY PARTICIPATION PROGRAM.

A LOT OF WHAT WE DO AND WHAT WE SPEND TIME ON BUILDING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE, AND THEY KNOW THAT WE HAVE THEIR BEST INTEREST IN TO .

YEAH.

WE'RE, WE'RE ALL, WE'RE ALL FROM HERE.

.

WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN AND SAFE TRAVELS HOME.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

AND, UM, GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU

[E. 7:20 - 7:40 PM - Budget Presentation - Laurel Center]

SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

I'M FAITH POWER.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE LAUREL CENTER.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE AWARE OF THE ROYAL CENTER AND WHAT WE DO, BUT WE'RE A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT CRISIS CENTER.

UH, WE ARE, UH, WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING SERVICES FOR OVER 40 YEARS, UM, AND PART OF THAT TIME WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING SERVICES TO, UM, WARREN COUNTY RESIDENTS.

UM, I'M HERE TONIGHT, NO SURPRISE, TO, UM, ASK FOR SOME FINANCIAL SUPPORT, UM, FROM WARREN COUNTY.

WE ACTUALLY SERVE FOUR JURISDICTIONS, SO WARREN COUNTY, UM, THE CITY OF WINCHESTER, FREDERICK COUNTY, AND CLARK COUNTY.

UM, WHAT'S PROMPTING MY REQUEST, UM, IS THAT OVER THE LAST THREE TO FOUR YEARS, UM, ONE OF OUR LARGEST GRANTORS, WHICH IS THE DEPARTMENT, THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE, UM, WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING GRANT CUTS.

IT'S NOT JUST PARTICULAR TO THE LAUREL CENTER.

UH, AGENCIES ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING THOSE CUTS.

THE MONEY THAT GETS DISPERSED IN THESE GRANTS TO THE LAUREL CENTER AND OTHER AGENCIES IS ACTUALLY FEDERAL MONEY.

THERE'S A CRIME VICTIMS FUND.

UM, AND THAT FUND IS BUILT THROUGH, UH, FELONY FINES THAT THE COURT COLLECTS ALRIGHT.

INDIVIDUALS AND CORPORATIONS.

UM, THE FUND BALANCE HAS BEEN DECLINING.

IN FACT, IN, UH, FY 21 AND 22, IT HIT A 10 YEAR LOW.

UH, WE RECEIVED A 60% CUT.

UM, WE WERE ABLE AFTER AN EIGHT MONTH PERIOD TO GET ABOUT 80% OF THAT MONEY BACK.

BUT THEN AGAIN, UH, WE, UM, IN, UH, FY 23 RECEIVED A 10% CUT AGAIN FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE.

AND WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED, IN FACT, I DID NOT INCLUDE IT, BUT I HAVE COPIES FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE, UM, TO ANTICIPATE, UM, ANOTHER CUT A MINIMUM OF 10%, BUT IT COULD BE MUCH

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MORE THAN THAT.

UH, THE YEAR THAT WE GOT CUT, 60%, WE WERE TOLD IT COULD BE AS HIGH AS A 30% CUT, AND IT WAS 60.

UM, SO WE'RE ALL A LITTLE BIT, UM, ANXIOUS RIGHT NOW IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT CUT, UM, IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.

BUT WE NEED BADLY TO SUSTAIN OUR SERVICE LEVELS.

UM, THE MONEY THAT WE ARE REQUESTING, UM, FROM WARREN COUNTY, UM, TAKES INTO ACCOUNT A 10% CUT THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE.

AND HOW WE ARRIVED AT THAT SLIGHTLY OVER $14,000 THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS THE CUT WOULD RESULT IN, UM, AROUND A HUNDRED, A LITTLE OVER $182,000 TO US.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S A FAIRLY BIG HIT FOR US.

UM, AND SO WE TOOK THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE SERVED IN EACH OF THOSE JURISDICTIONS AND TOOK A, CREATED A PERCENTAGE OF THAT 182,000 IS, UM, HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE 14,000.

UM, YOU, WARREN COUNTY REPRESENTS ABOUT 8.13% OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAD SERVED.

UM, SO I'M GONNA PAUSE THERE, UM, AND SEE IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I KNOW THE EVENING IS LATE.

PLEASE GO AHEAD.

A LITTLE OVER EIGHT MM-HMM.

.

MM-HMM, .

SO THE, THE NUMBER, THE, UM, YEAR THAT WE UTILIZED WAS FY 23.

'CAUSE THAT'S THE YEAR THAT, UM, OF A YEAR DATA, UM, THAT WE HAVE.

WE ACTUALLY, EVERY SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE, WE ENTER IT INTO A DATABASE.

IT'S A STATEWIDE DATABASE CALLED VI DATA.

AND THE REASON I CHOSE TO USE A FULL YEAR, UH, TO BASE THIS FIGURE ON IS THAT VI DATA IS, IT TAKES ABOUT THREE MONTHS FOR THE DATA TO CATCH UP, UM, AND, UM, BE CURRENT.

AND SO, UM, FELT THAT THAT WAS, UM, GIVE US A MORE APPROPRIATE, UH, NUMBER.

SO IN FY 23, WE SERVE 50 INDIVIDUALS FROM WARREN COUNTY.

AND SOME OF THOSE SERVICES, JUST SO YOU KNOW, IS WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY SHELTER, UM, WHERE INDIVIDUALS HAVE UP TO 60 DAYS, UH, IN SHELTER.

WE PROVIDE FOOD, CLOTHING, PERSONAL CARE ITEMS. WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF WHAT WE CALL WRAPAROUND SERVICES.

WE HAVE LICENSED THERAPIST, UM, WE HAVE COURT ADVOCATES.

WE HAVE, UM, A CHILDREN'S PROGRAM WHERE, UM, WE PROVIDE THERAPY SERVICES TO, TO CHILDREN.

UM, WE HAVE A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM AND WE HAVE, UM, WHAT'S CALLED AN EXTENDED STAY PROGRAM.

ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT, UM, WE'RE FACING, I THINK THROUGHOUT THE COMMONWEALTH, UM, IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND IT'S TAKING MUCH LONGER THAN 60 DAYS TO FIND AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO LEAVE AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP.

SO WE STOOD UP IN 2020 AND EXTENDED STAY PROGRAM.

WE HAVE FOUR EFFICIENCY APARTMENTS WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY, UM, PUT IN INDIVIDUALS THAT QUALIFY, UM, TO HELP THEM SUPPORT THEM, UH, IN THEIR, UM, HUNT FOR AN APARTMENT.

A LOT OF THEM HAVE BARRIERS.

IT MIGHT BE A CREDIT BARRIER THAT PREVENTS THEM FROM GETTING AN APARTMENT.

IT MIGHT BE THAT THEY HAVE A GAP IN THEIR, UM, WORK HISTORY, AND WE ARE HELPING THEM TO FIND A JOB.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT, THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

AND WE'VE PROVIDED TO WARREN COUNTY RESIDENTS, NO, WE PROVIDE SERVICES TO OVER A THOUSAND INDIVIDUALS.

BUT SOME OF THAT, WHAT I DIDN'T INCLUDE IN THAT WAS WE DO COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

SO WE COME DOWN AND DO TABLING EVENTS, UM, WITH, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES AND OTHERS.

UM, AND I DIDN'T COUNT THOSE, UM, IN THAT.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

MM-HMM.

.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

YEAH.

SO I DIDN'T INCLUDE THE COMMUN, WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND EDUCATION SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE.

SO, PLEASE, MM-HMM.

.

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UM, THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION.

UM, YEAH.

SO WE HAVE A SHELTER.

WE PROVIDE, UM, SHELTER FOR INDIVIDUALS.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE PHOENIX PROJECT PROVIDES SHELTER THROUGH, UM, HOTELS AND MOTEL STAYS, AND THAT THOSE ARE, UM, JUST ONE OR TWO NIGHT STAYS.

UM, I THINK THAT'S A CORE DIFFERENCE IN THAT, UM, ONE OF THE, UM, ATTRIBUTES OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS STALKING.

AND SO SAFETY IS A PRIMARY CONCERN.

SO OFTEN WE DO GET PEOPLE FROM WARREN COUNTY, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT HAVE SOME PRETTY SERIOUS STALKING ISSUES THAT THEY DON'T FEEL SAFE BEING HOUSED IN A HOTEL OR A MOTEL.

UM, I THINK ANOTHER KEY, UH, DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE PROVIDE LICENSED THERAPY.

UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE PHOENIX PROJECT DOESN'T HAVE, AND I TALK TO TAMMY, UM, WE TALK AND WE HAVE LUNCH, UM, THAT THEY, UM, DO NOT PROVIDE, UH, LICENSED THERAPY.

UM, JUST RECENTLY, I KNOW THEY STARTED A, UM, THEY HAVE A SEXUAL, A VICTIM ADVOCATE THAT, UM, PROVIDES SEXUAL ASSAULT.

UM, AND THAT'S A FAIRLY RECENT, UM, SERVICE THAT THEY'VE BEEN PROVIDING.

WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN PROVIDING, UH, WE WERE ASKED, UM, SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL THAT THE HARMONY PLACE EXISTED HERE.

IT WAS A SHELTER THAT DID BOTH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT SERVICES IN WARREN COUNTY.

AND IT CLOSED, I THINK IN THE 20 14 20 15 TIMEFRAME.

WE WERE ACTUALLY ASKED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE TO PROVIDE SEXUAL ASSAULT SERVICES TO WARREN COUNTY.

AND WE STARTED DOING THAT IN 2015.

WE'VE BEEN, UM, OUR SEXUAL ASSAULT PROGRAM IS OVER 15 YEARS OLD, AND OUR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROGRAMS OVER 40 YEARS, SO IS LENGTH OF HISTORY AND SERVICE.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, UM, THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THE PHOENIX PROJECT HAS.

AND THIS OUR EXTENDED STAY PROGRAM AS WELL.

UM, WE HAD BEEN, UM, WHEN I MENTIONED TO YOU THAT WE TOOK THAT 60% CUT, THE OFFICE HERE THAT WE HAD WAS FULLY FUNDED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE.

UM, AND WE WERE NOTIFIED ON MAY THE 20TH OF 2021 THAT WE WERE GONNA, UM, HAVE A 60% CUT, UM, OBVIOUS, AND IT WOULD TAKE EFFECT JULY ONE.

AND THERE WAS LITERALLY NOT A LOT OF TIME WE ACTUALLY WENT TO THE STATE.

WE HAD ANOTHER GRANT, UM, THAT WE HAD ALREADY PUT OUR WORK PLANS AND BUDGETS IN WITH THE STATE TO ASK WHETHER WE COULD REVISE THESE WORK PLANS AND SHIFT SOME MONEY DOWN HERE TO KEEP THAT OFFICE OPEN.

AND WE WERE NOT GRANTED PERMISSION TO DO THAT.

SO WE ACTUALLY CLOSED THAT OFFICE.

WE ARE, AND HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST LITTLE OVER A YEAR LOOKING FOR SPACE DOWN HERE.

WE WANT TO BE DOWN HERE.

WE THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR INDIVIDUALS IN WARREN COUNTY THAT QUITE FRANKLY DON'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION, UM, TO WINCHESTER.

UM, SO WE ARE, WE ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING, THOUGHT WE HAD A LOCATION, UM, AND FOUND OUT THAT, UM, IT APPARENTLY HAS MOLE AND, UM, SO I THINK THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING SOME MOLE, UH, REMEDIATION.

SO, MM-HMM.

.

MM-HMM.

.

WELL, WE'VE HAD SOME RESERVES, UM, WHICH WE HAVE ARE GOING THROUGH.

AND, UM, WE ARE, UM, MORE CHALLENGED, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT WE, UH, COUNT ON, UM, THE COMMUNITY, UH, TO HELP US.

UM, BUT WE'VE CUT STAFF, UH, WE'LL MOST LIKELY BE CUTTING, UH, MORE STAFF AND WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR SERVICE LEVELS, UM, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THAT.

BUT, UM, WE HAVE DEPENDED ON THE COMMUNITY.

UH, WE DO GET A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY FROM FREDERICK COUNTY.

WE GET NO MONEY FROM WINCHESTER, UM, THE CITY OF WINCHESTER, AND WE GET A LITTLE MONEY FROM, UM, CLARK COUNTY.

UH, SPECIFICALLY WE GET $12,000 FROM FREDERICK COUNTY, AND WE GET $6,000 FROM WARREN, OR EXCUSE

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ME, CLARK COUNTY, UM, RIGHT.

.

RIGHT, RIGHT THROUGH, UM, OTHER, WE WRITE ADDITIONAL GRANTS.

UM, SO, AND PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS, UM, WE GET SOME MONEY FROM THE UNITED WAY.

UM, SO THERE'S, YEAH.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, PLEASE.

UM, THAT'S COMING.

UM, SO I CAN TELL YOU THE CUT THAT WE TOOK LAST YEAR WAS 112,000.

WE ARE PROJECTING, I THINK I'D SAID EARLIER, UM, DCJS, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN THIS FUNDING MEMO ? BECAUSE IT DOES GO INTO DEPTH.

NO, YOU'RE NOT.

OKAY.

UM, WE, WE WE'RE ANTICIPATING, AND IT COULD BE MORE THAN THAT, THE 10% CUT WOULD BE, UM, OVER $182,000.

I'M, GO AHEAD.

SO AGAIN, IT'S, THIS IS FEDERAL MONEY THAT FLOWS IN RIGHT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO ALL THE STATES.

AND THE FUNDING LEVELS IN THAT FEDERAL FUND HAVE BEEN LOWERED BECAUSE THE FUND IS COMPRISED OF FELONY FINES.

RIGHT.

SO THROUGH, UH, FOR CORPORATIONS, THROUGH INDIVIDUALS.

AND SO IT'S A CAPRICIOUS FUND.

UM, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU PREDICT FROM YEAR TO YEAR HOW MANY, HOW MUCH MONEY YOU'RE GONNA RAISE THROUGH FEDERAL FINES, RIGHT? UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I'M TRYING TO DO IS WORK AT A FEDERAL LEVEL TO FIX THIS BROKEN FUND, IF YOU WILL, BECAUSE WE NEED A DEPENDABLE FUNDING STREAM TO CONTINUE TO SERVE VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT.

UM, SO WE'RE CERTAINLY WORKING, UM, ON THAT.

BUT IF THAT'S THE CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW.

YEAH.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, UM, CONGRESS RIGHT NOW IS, UM, I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING AT, UM, THE BUDGET, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DETERMINATIONS ABOUT, THEY ALSO, I WILL SAY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY TAKE, THEY HAD BEEN TAKING MONEY OUT OF THIS FUND FOR OTHER PURPOSES, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE YEAH, IMAGINE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM TO LITERALLY LOCK IT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS FOR VICTIMS OF CRIME.

RIGHT? SO YEAH.

YEAH.

SO CHALLENGING TIMES, UM, MS. COOKY ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER WE ARE GOING TO LOOK BE HERE.

UM, I, I THINK THE REALITY IS WE ARE HERE, WE DO HAVE INDIVIDUALS FROM WARREN COUNTY THAT UTILIZE, UM, OUR SERVICES.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEY COME FOR SHELTER AND, AND WE PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES.

UM, BUT IT IS OUR GOAL.

IF YOU ALL KNOW OF ANY OFFICE SPACE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

I NEED A ABOUT BETWEEN 1500 AND 2000 SQUARE FEET.

SO, UH, WITHOUT A DOUBT, WITHOUT A DOUBT, UM, WE KNOW THAT IN SEXUAL ASSAULT CASES, THEY'RE UNDER REPORTED, UM, TREMENDOUSLY THAT ONLY ABOUT 30% OF SEXUAL ASSAULT CASES ARE EVER REPORTED.

UM, WE THINK IT'S PROBABLY A GREATER PERCENTAGE WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, AND I THINK YOU COULD RELATE BECAUSE YOU'RE A FEMALE, WE TEND TO WANT THE WORLD TO SEE THAT WE HAVE A PERFECT FAMILY AND WE HAVE PERFECT RELATIONSHIPS.

RIGHT.

UM, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THE ABUSE.

AND THE ABUSE, BY THE WAY, IS JUST NOT PHYSICAL.

I MEAN, IT'S ABOUT POWER AND CONTROL.

LIKE THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS POWER AND CONTROL.

AND SO IT COULD BE CONTROL OVER FINANCES, IT COULD BE CONTROL OVER YOUR WHEREABOUTS, RIGHT.

THAT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO TO CERTAIN PLACES, OR YOU HAVE TO BE HOME AT A CERTAIN TIME.

UM, YEAH, IT IS TREMENDOUSLY UNDER-REPORTED, AND THIS IS WHY IT'S SO DIFFICULT RIGHT NOW SINCE COVID, WE'VE REALLY SEEN AN INCREASE, PARTICULARLY IN, UM, VERY SERIOUS

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PHYSICAL CASES.

SO THE DEMAND FOR SERVICES ARE INCREASING AT A TIME WHERE THE FUNDING STREAMS ARE GETTING CUT.

AND SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

SO, SO, UH, YEAH.

SO WE DO, I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DO TABLING EVENTS DOWN HERE.

UM, DURING PARTICULARLY SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH, WE ACTUALLY DO EVENTS, UM, DOWN HERE.

UM, ONE OF THEM IS A CANDLELIGHT VIGIL THAT WE DO ON THE, UM, TOWN SQUARE.

UM, WE ARE ALL OVER THE WEBSITE.

WE USE SOCIAL MEDIA, WE USE BILLBOARDS.

UM, WE ARE, WHEN WE'RE IN, WE CAN FIND THEM, QUITE FRANKLY.

UM, WE DO ADS, UM, .

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

WE, WE OPERATE UNDER AN MOU WITH LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT HERE.

UM, YEAH.

SO WE DO, IN FACT, I'LL BE DOWN HERE FRIDAY, WE PARTICIPATE, UM, IN YOUR SA SARTS, WHICH IS, UM, AN ACRONYM FOR SEXUAL, UM, ASSAULT RESPONSE TEAM.

UM, AND THAT'S WHERE WE COME TOGETHER WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, WITH THE COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO ACTUALLY REVIEW CASES AND TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THEY'RE PROGRESSING AND MAYBE HOW WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER TO, UM, SUPPORT THE VICTIM.

UM, WE ALSO PARTICIPATE IN YOUR TRIADS DOWN HERE, WHICH ARE, UM, FOCUSED ON SENIOR CITIZENS.

SO, SO IF I, IF I WAS AN OFFICER AND I WENT INTO A HOME AND IT'S A DOMESTIC, BUT THE ABUSED PERSON DOESN'T LIKE MO TIME, DOESN'T WANT TO FILE ANY CHARGES OR BE TAKEN OUT OF THE HOME, IS THAT STILL REPORTED TO YOU? IS THERE A CONNECTION THERE SO THAT YOU COULD DO AN OUTREACH YEAH.

MAYBE AT SOME POINT, OR IS SO UNFORTUNATELY, HOW DOES THAT WORK? UM, WHAT, WHAT'S REQUIRED IS THEY HAVE TO BE WILLING TO SIGN A RELEASE FORM SO THAT WE CAN CONTACT THEM.

SO CONFIDENTIALITY IS A REALLY BIG PIECE.

WE'RE GOVERNED BY SOMETHING CALLED THE, UM, OFFICE, UH, FOR VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN BY LAW ACT.

AND, UM, WE CANNOT APPROACH, NOR CAN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, UM, GIVE US THAT INFORMATION WITHOUT A SIGNED RELEASE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT BACK.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, A TECHNICALITY THAT BECAUSE IT WAS ABUSE, THAT THE CONFIDENTIALITY WAS POWER.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE WORK REALLY HARD.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE WORK REALLY HARD AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, WE DON'T LIVE IN A AREA OF THE COMMONWEALTH LIKE FAIRFAX OR LOUDOUN COUNTY, WHERE THEIR GOVERNMENT'S GIVEN 'EM LIKE A MILLION DOLLARS.

RIGHT.

SO WE WORK REALLY HARD IN COMMUNITY FUNDRAISERS.

WE TYPICALLY HAVE ABOUT FIVE A YEAR.

UM, BUT WE ALSO WORK REALLY HARD AT FINDING, UM, PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND, UM, UH, AND DO A YEAREND APPEAL, UM, TO INDIVIDUALS TO HELP MAKE UP THE GAP.

ABOUT 68% OF OUR OPERATING EXPENSES ARE COVERED BY, UM, STATE FUNDING.

MM-HMM.

.

IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE YET.

YEAH.

AND I WOULDN'T BE HERE IF WE DIDN'T NEED THE MONEY, QUITE FRANKLY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IT IS CRUCIAL.

IT IS.

IT'S A VERY TOUGH SITUATION.

YOU CAN'T RE WELL, IF YOU GO TO PAGE, IT LOOKS, LOOKS LIKE THIS ONE, THEY'RE NOT NUMBERED.

IT WILL SHOW YOU THE TOTAL NUMBER.

UH, IT'S BROKEN BETWEEN FRONT WELL, AND WARREN, WARREN COUNTY.

YEAH.

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IT SAYS ONE OF THREE IS WHAT IT SAYS.

BUT THESE WERE, THEY'RE ALL FROM DIFFERENT, UM, YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I'M SORRY.

I DO, YOU KNOW, YOU MAKE A GREAT POINT.

WE NEVER KNOW WHEN WE, WE STAFF A 24 7 HOTLINE, RIGHT.

SO YOU CAN CALL US WHATEVER HOUR OF THE DAY YOU NEED, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONNA BE ON THE OTHER END OF THAT PHONE.

RIGHT.

UM, YEAH, BECAUSE TOUGH AND A LOT OF IT, THE CALLS THAT WE TAKE, AND IT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND IMPORTANT, WE DO A LOT OF SAFETY PLANNING ON THOSE HOTLINE CALLS.

UM, WE GOT A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS THAT CALL AND THEY'LL SAY, I'M NOT READY YET TO COME INTO SHELTER.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT READY.

UM, AND WE SAY, OKAY, BUT YOU NEED TO PROTECT YOURSELF.

AND WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME PROVIDING, UM, SAFETY PLANNING, UM, WITH THEM SO THAT THEY CAN REMAIN SAFE AND HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT WHEN THEY'RE READY TO COME INTO SHELTER WITH US.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

PLEASE BE SAFE OUT THERE.

IT'S GOT A LITTLE FOGGY, I GOTTA TELL YOU.

THANK YOU FOR WAKING HOME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

IN THE INTEREST OF DISCLOSURE, UH, KAREN DALEY HAS BEEN A BOARD MEMBER THERE ABOUT FOUR YEARS NOW AND ABOUT 15 YEARS TOTAL.

UM, BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.

WHO'S THAT? .

IT'S HIS BOSS.

YOU GOT IT.

.

ANYTIME YOU WANT TICKETS TO ONE OF THOSE FUNDRAISERS, LET ME KNOW.

OKAY.

IF YOU ALL AT ANY POINT WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK FACILITY, WE WOULD WELCOME THAT OPPORTUNITY.

SO YOU HAVE, UH, UH, THE PROPERTY, UM, THAT SHE'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR CLOSE TO A YEAR, AND THE LANDLORD, UM, HAD A LITTLE MINI STUDY STU STUDY DONE TO MAKE SURE IT WAS GOOD, AND THE LANDLORD WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK YOU FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY IN ORDER TO UPGRADE THAT BUILDING.

SO WE'RE NOW HELPING TO LOOK FOR ANOTHER FACILITY.

BUT THIS, WE HAD, WE THOUGHT WE HAD A FACILITY.

WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THREE YEARS NOW.

A LARGE HMM.

HOW LARGE OF A FACILITY? I SAY 15.

WHAT WE WANNA DO, WHAT WE DONE PREVIOUSLY, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES? UM, SO I'M LOOKING FOR A SPACE THAT WOULD, I NEED TWO OFFICES, ONE FOR THERAPIST, ONE FOR ADVOCATE ENFORCEMENT.

UM, MM-HMM.

WE, WE, WE KEEP LOOKING.

THANK YOU GUYS.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

YOU'RE UP NEXT.

IF YOU WOULD, UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

WE'VE GOT NEW BOARD MEMBERS AND WELCOME.

[F. 7:40 - 8:00 PM - Budget Presentation - Winchester Public Defender ]

HELLO, I'M PETER MCDERMOTT.

I'M THE PUBLIC DEFENDER.

UH, I'M THE PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR NOT JUST WARREN COUNTY, BUT CLARK FREDERICK, THE CITY OF WINCHESTER, UH, SHENANDOAH AND PAGE COUNTIES.

UM, THE PAST FEW YEARS, WARREN COUNTY HAS BEEN A STRONG PARTNER WITH MY OFFICE THAT PROVIDES DEFENSE FOR THE INDIGENT IN, UH, WARREN COUNTY.

ALTHOUGH OUR NUMBERS WERE SOMEWHAT DOWN THIS YEAR, WE ARE ACTUALLY, SEEMS LIKE THE NUMBERS HAVE TICKED BACK UP AGAIN IN WARREN COUNTY.

THERE'S BEEN AN UPSURGE IN, UM, APPOINTED COUNSEL LOCALLY.

UM, SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE GETTING MORE, WE'RE GETTING MORE CASES IN 2023,

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ALTHOUGH WE ARE GETTING MORE CASES NOW.

WE HAVE ALSO BEGUN THIS YEAR RUNNING A DRUG COURT IN WARREN COUNTY.

AND THAT IS A DIRECT BENEFIT JUST TO WARREN COUNTY.

AS I SAID IN MY SUBMISSION, DRUG COURTS WORK.

AND THAT PROVIDES A DIRECT BENEFIT ONLY TO, TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN WARREN COUNTY.

AND WE ARE ASKING THE BOARD THAT FOR AN INCREASE FROM $3,000 LAST YEAR TO $3,500 THIS YEAR.

NOW I'VE COME UP WITH THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE ATTORNEY WHO DOES THE WARREN COUNTY DOCKETS.

PREVIOUSLY, WE'D EXPECT ON AN AVERAGE WEEKLY BASIS TO DO TWO PERIODS OF DIS OF GENERAL DISTRICT COURT, TWO PERIODS OF JUVENILE DOMESTIC RELATIONS COURT.

WHEN I SAY A PERIOD, I MEAN A MORNING OR AN AFTERNOON WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE FROM EITHER NINE TO NOON OR ONE TO FIVE.

UM, WITH THE ADDITION OF DRUG COURT THAT ADDS SEVERAL HOURS TO THEIR WEEKLY DOCKETS BECAUSE THE DRUG COURT DOES MEET WEEKLY, UM, THAT HAS GOTTEN OFF THE GROUND.

WELL, AND AS I SAID, WARREN COUNTY HAS BEEN A STRONG PARTNER IN THAT.

AND WE ARE ASKING YOU TO CONTINUE YOUR PARTNERSHIP BY CONTINUING THE $3,000 YOU'VE GIVEN US THE PAST THREE YEARS, AND TO RAISE THAT TO $3,500 BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL TIME THAT THE ATTORNEY IS SPENDING IN DRUG COURT.

UM, SO THAT IS THE END OF MY PREPARED REMARKS.

IF YOU FOLKS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

IT IS ONLY BECAUSE WE ARE ASKING, WE, WE HAVE GOTTEN AN AMOUNT OF 3000.

WE BELIEVE THAT THAT IS A NUMBER THAT I THINK IS AT THIS POINT FAIR FOR, FOR BOTH PARTIES, AND THAT WE ARE ASKING TO RAISE THAT BECAUSE THAT IS APPROPRIATE WITH THE AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL TIME THAT WE ARE SEEING COMING INTO COURT.

IT, IT DOESN'T REALLY COVER IT, BUT WHAT IT DOES DO IS IT HELPS US RETAIN THAT PERSON WHO IS WORKING IN WARREN COUNTY.

IT HELPS US RETAIN OUR STAFF BECAUSE EVERY NEW FILE FOR DRUG COURT IS A NEW CLIENT THAT COMES IN JUST FOR DRUG COURT TO OUR OFFICE.

SO THAT HAS TO BE OPENED.

SO THAT IS ADDITIONAL WORK FOR STAFF AND FOR THE ATTORNEY.

IT, IT DOESN'T REALLY COVER IT, BUT WHAT IT DOES DO IS IT HELPS US TO LAY THE COST AND SAY, YOU KNOW, GIVE, GIVE US SOMETHING THAT WARREN COUNTY IS PROVIDING FOR US AND DOES HELP PROVIDE FOR THESE FOLKS IN DRUG COURT.

MM-HMM.

I SEE ON HERE.

UM, THE ONLY OTHER LOCALITY LISTED IN YOUR REPORT IS, IS SHENANDOAH.

UH, IS THAT RELATED TO DRUG COURT AS WELL? WE HAVE MADE PROPOSALS TO ALL OF THE OTHER COUNTIES.

UM, WARREN COUNTY SO FAR HAS BEEN THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS, THAT HAS GIVEN US FUNDING.

UM, SHENANDOAH ALSO HAS A DRUG COURT.

WE HAVE ASKED FOR THAT FOR ADDITIONAL MONEY FROM THEM FOR DRUG COURT.

BUT TO DATE, UH, SHENANDOAH COUNTY HAS NOT PROVIDED MY OFFICE WITH ANY MONEY.

THANK , THE JOY OF BEING A STATE AGENCY.

UM, WE, WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, BUT THERE IS KIND OF A CRISIS IN THE VALLEY ABOUT ATTORNEYS.

THERE JUST AREN'T ENOUGH PEOPLE COMING.

AND SO THAT MONEY DOES HELP US, UM, UH, RETAIN ATTORNEYS AND, AND HOPEFULLY HIRE NEW ONES.

UM, THAT HAS BECOME A BIG ISSUE AS A BIG ISSUE WHEN MR. COYNE WAS HERE.

THERE'S A BIG ISSUE STILL, AND WE DO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE FUNDING THAT WARREN COUNTY PROVIDES US AND, AND THE FUNDING THAT PROVIDES TO DRUG COURT AND TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE, THAT REALLY, IT, IT CHANGES LIVES.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, I OH, GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

OH, SO ARE YOU, DO YOU HAVE TO TURN CLIENTS AWAY? WE CANNOT.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

UM, WE, WE HAVE, UH, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IN IN PAGE COUNTY RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ASKING THEM TO STOP PUTTING US IN CASES BECAUSE OUR ATTORNEY THERE IS ILL, AND WE'RE JUST MM-HMM.

, WE'RE DOWN NUMBERS.

UM, AND THAT ONE IS SO FAR AWAY.

OUR MAIN OFF OUR SECONDARY OFFICE IS IN FRONT ROYAL.

WE HAVE AN ATTORNEY OUT THERE, BUT WE ARE ASKING THEM TO GIVE US FEWER CASES, BUT WE HAVE NOT YET COME TO THE POINT WHERE WE'VE HAD TO TAKE A CASE PAUSE IN AT LEAST A YEAR.

SO THAT IS, THAT IS A POSITIVE THING.

AND THAT WOULD BE BECAUSE OF A LACK OF ATTORNEYS.

IT, IT IS RESOURCES, LACK OF LACK OF ATTORNEYS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I, I SAW YOUR NUMBER OF WARREN COUNTY, UH, CLIENTS.

IT'S 171 FOR THE YEAR.

UM, AND, UH, IT WAS OVER 200 THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

OKAY.

AS I SAID, WE, THERE WAS AN UPTICK.

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I, I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER PERSON ON WHAT WE CALL THE LIST, UM, WAS SO THEY, THE COURT LIKES TO KEEP PEOPLE ON THE LIST TO THE EXTENT IT CAN AND HELP THEM PROVIDE.

UM, BUT OUR NUMBERS ARE GONE, HAVE GONE UP AGAIN IN WARREN COUNTY THIS YEAR SO FAR.

I WAS JUST GONNA SAY FOR $3,500, THAT'S ABOUT $21 OR SO A, A CLIENT THAT, THAT SEEMS VERY FAIR FOR, WELL, I, FOR WHAT WE'RE GETTING, CAN YOU MIND SURE.

JUST BRIEFLY SAY WHAT DRUG COURT DOES AND AND WHY IT'S BENEFICIAL.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO WHEN A PERSON WHO IS FOUND TO BE BOTH HIGH RISK FOR, UH, RECIDIVISM FOR DRUGS AND HIGH NEED FOR DRUG TREATMENT, THEY CAN BE ACCEPTED INTO A DRUG COURT IF THEY HAVE A POSSIBLE SENTENCE OF OVER A YEAR.

AND WHAT THAT PROVIDES TO THEM IS THEY WILL BE RELEASED.

THERE IS A STAGED PROGRAM, WHICH THEY DEAL WITH THROUGH THE COMMUNITY SERVICES BOARD, UM, WHERE THEY WILL RECEIVE THERAPY, THEY'LL RECEIVE MEDICATION, THEY'LL RECEIVE SOME JOB TRAINING.

THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THEY WILL HAVE TO DO IN THAT DRUG COURT.

THEY WILL HAVE TO, AT A CERTAIN POINT, ABOUT 90 TO A HUNDRED DAYS IN, THEY WILL, UH, BE EXPECTED TO HAVE A JOB AND PAY SOME COURT COSTS.

BUT A LOT OF IT IS RECEIVING TREATMENT, UM, RECEIVING, UM, YOU KNOW, DRUG TESTING.

THERE IS A POLICE OFFICER WHO WILL, WHO WILL LIAISE WITH THEM ESSENTIALLY EVERY WEEK THERE ARE THERAPISTS THAT WORK WITH THEM TO TRY TO BREAK THE CYCLE OF ADDICTION THAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH BECAUSE THEY ARE SO HIGH RISK AND HIGH NEED, AND THEY WILL PROGRESS.

IT TAKES ABOUT, BETWEEN 17 AND 24 MONTHS FOR SOMEONE TO ACTUALLY GRADUATE FROM THE PROGRAM.

IT'S A FIVE STAGE PROGRAM THAT YOU PROGRESSIVELY MOVE UP.

THERE ARE SANCTIONS THAT YOU CAN MOVE BACK DOWN OR YOU CAN BE PUT INTO JAIL FOR CERTAIN PERIODS OF TIME FOR USE OR FOR NOT MAKING PHONE CALLS ON TIME.

THERE IS A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS FOR THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE IT HELPS THEM BUILD THE STRUCTURE OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO THINK OF AS A NORMAL ADULT LIFE.

SOMETHING TO HANG THEIR LIFE ON AND TO HANG THEIR SOBRIETY ON.

AND THAT'S WHAT DRUG COURT GIVES THEM.

AND OUR PROCESS IN, UM, THE FREDERICK CLARK, UM, AND WINCHESTER DRUG COURT HAS HAD GRADUATES RECENTLY.

WE'VE ACTUALLY HIRED A GRADUATE, UM, OF THE DRUG COURT TO BE, UH, A, AN OUTREACH PERSON FOR OFFICE TO HELP PEOPLE GET INTO DRUG TREATMENT, WHO ARE CLIENTS IN OTHER COURTS WHO ARE NOT AS HIGH RISK OR HIGH NEED AS THE PEOPLE WHO GET INTO DRUG COURT ARE.

BUT THE PROCESS IS, UH, EVIDENCE-BASED HAS WORKED IN MANY PLACES, AND AS AM CONFIDENT YOU'LL CONTINUE TO WORK HERE.

THANK YOU.

IS IT FOR JUST ONE FIRST TIME OFFENDERS OR IS THIS FOR PEOPLE THAT CAN HAVE, THAT ARE REOCCURRING? IT'S FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE REOCCURRING.

SO VIRGINIA HAS A STATUTE THAT ALLOWS FIRST TIME OFFENDERS TO ACTUALLY AVOID A CONVICTION IF THEY'RE ABLE TO DO CERTAIN THINGS, SERVICE, PAY, COURT COSTS, AND BE OF GOOD BEHAVIOR FOR A YEAR.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, THIS IS FOR PEOPLE WHO REALLY DO HAVE SERIOUS HIGH RISK, HIGH NEED DRUG PROBLEMS. AND THEY'RE THE PEOPLE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY WHO, WHO REALLY DO MAKE, WHO MAKE THE DRUG PROBLEMS WORSE BECAUSE THEY JUST, THEY NEED, THEY HAVE THIS HIGH NEED.

THEY HAVE THIS HIGH RISK.

AND WHAT THE EVIDENCE HAS SHOWN US IS BY REMOVING THESE PEOPLE, BY PUTTING THESE PEOPLE IN A POSITION WHERE THEY CAN SUCCEED, IT HELPS OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY SUCCEED.

AND IT HELPS THEM TO SUCCEED AND NOT BE SAFE.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT IT'S FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE HIGH RISK AND VERY HIGH.

SO, SO WITH IT, IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN NEED OF MENTAL HEALTH AND, AND, UM, MENTAL HEALTH AND DRUG TREATMENT SERVICES.

UM, AND HIGH RISK IS, DO THEY HAVE A HIGH RISK OF RECIDIVATING? THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TOOLS MADE BY THE SUPREME COURT OF VIRGINIA, UM, TO, TO, TO ANSWER BOTH OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

MM-HMM.

, UM, INVOLVES PSYCHOLOGICAL, UH, EVALUATIONS BY A SOCIAL WORKER.

IT, IT, IT'S A LONG, IT'S A FAIRLY LONG PROCESS.

AND USUALLY THEY'RE HELD IN JAIL AND IT TAKES A FEW WEEKS TO GET AN APPROVAL FOR SOMEONE TO GET INTO DRUG COURT.

IF, IF SOMEONE GRADUATES FROM, FROM DRUG COURT AND GETS THEIR LIFE BACK ON TRACK, DO, UH, DO THEY ALSO HAVE THE POSSIBILITY TO HAVE THOSE CHARGES EXPUNGED FROM THE RECORD? SO, NO.

USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS IN OUR DRUG COURTS IS THEY ARE GENERALLY CONVICTED OF THAT CRIME BECAUSE MOST OF OUR FOLKS, THEY'RE HERE ON NOT JUST A NEW OFFENSE, BUT ALSO A VIOLATION.

MM-HMM.

, BECAUSE THEY'RE HIGH RISK,

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THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE ALMOST GONNA HAVE, OKAY.

SO THEY'LL NOT HAVE THOSE EXPUNGED.

BUT WHAT THEY'LL GET IS THEY'LL GET A PERIOD OF UN THEY'LL HAVE, HAVING BEEN THROUGH THE PROGRAM, THEY WILL GET A PERIOD OF UNSUPERVISED PROBATION AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE ELIGIBLE TO GET SERVICES.

UM, WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED AN ALUMNI PROGRAM, UH, AND THAT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL UP IN, UH, FREDERICK MANCHESTER AND CLARK COUNTY.

YEP.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY.

THANK YOU FOR TALKING.

THANK YOU.

AND SAFE TRAVEL HOME.

WELL, THAT CONCLUDES, UM, EACH OF THE PRESENTATIONS.

MADAM CHAIR, IF I CAN JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, WE WILL, UH, FOR THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS IN OUR BUDGET PROCESS, WE DO HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR THE DRUG COURT BUDGET LINE ITEM THAT'S FUNDED BY INTERNALLY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR SHARING.

SO HOPEFULLY YEAH, HOPEFULLY THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO, UM, DESCRIBE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THEY DO AS WELL.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, COURT FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THE COMMITTEE MEETS TOMORROW.

REPRESENTED BEFORE ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO COME HERE.

THE C IS IT A PUBLIC MEETING? I'M SORRY? IS IT A PUBLIC MEETING? IT'S A PUBLIC COMMITTEE, YES.

VERY GOOD.

PUBLIC MEETING.

PUBLIC COMMITTEE.

WHEN IS THAT? UH, FIVE O'CLOCK TOMORROW.

TOMORROW? YES.

IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.

HEAR WHAT? YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE A, BUT WAS THERE ANY RELATION BETWEEN JUDGE AND, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE FIRST NAME.

SHE'S THE, UH, UH, SHE'S THE SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE.

ANTOINETTE ANTOINETTE? NO, NO.

UM, DR.

DALEY WITH MORE THAN, IF MORE THAN THREE COME TO THE MEETING TOMORROW.

HOW IS, HOW DOES THAT WORK? BECAUSE USED TO BE THE FOIA REQUIREMENTS WHERE IF THE, IF A QUORUM WAS AT A MEETING, YOU COULDN'T SAY ANYTHING.

YOU COULD JUST SIT AND OBSERVE.

THAT CHANGED SOMEWHAT.

AND WITH ME BEING ON THAT COMMITTEE, WOULD THAT NEGATE ME FROM ASKING ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? WE'D ALL BE JUST OBSERVERS, CORRECT.

COMMITTEE.

OKAY.

A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE.

I THINK YOU'RE THE CHANGED.

SO YOU'RE THE MEMBER ALL MRS. UH, AND I THINK YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE IF THERE WERE MORE TWO SHOWED AND I DON'T THINK THE OTHERS COULD ASK QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

OH, NO, I, I JUST WANT THAT.

'CAUSE , I DON'T, I KNOW NONE OF US WANT TO BREAK ANY FOUR YEAR RULES.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO REQUEST LEGISLATIVE, GET THAT CLARIFIED, NOT DOING COUNTY BUSINESS PER SE, THAT YOU COULD TALK.

YEAH.

AND I, I HAVE A SIMILAR QUESTION.

MAYBE, UH, Y'ALL KNOW THE ANSWER OR WE CAN REFER TO MR. HAM, UH, BUT, UH, NON COUNTY MEETINGS, BUT OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS, UH, CAN THREE OF US BE AT A NON COUNTY MEETING? SAY FOR EXAMPLE, A POLITICAL COMMITTEE? UM, OR CAN ONLY TWO OF US BE AT THAT MEETING? UH, WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE TOMORROW NIGHT FOR A FEW OF US.

SO, WELL, THAT'S A PRIVATE GROUP.

THAT'S NOT A PUBLIC YOU'RE NOT DOING, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE A POLITICAL PARTY? YES.

YEAH.

THE WARREN COUNTY REPUBLICAN COMMITTEE.

YEAH.

WELL THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A PRIVATE GROUP, A POLITICAL PARTY, NOT SUBJECT TO, OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT, THAT'S INTERESTING.

'CAUSE UH, THAT'S CORRECT.

SOMEONE FROM THE TOWN HAD MADE THE ASSERTION THAT, THAT THE TOWNSPEOPLE WHO WERE THERE WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE DUE TO FOIA.

AND SO I WANTED TO VALIDATE THAT.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S CORRECT.

I WILL ASK MR. HAN, PLEASE.

YES.

BECAUSE I THINK FROM THIS ALL CAME OUT OF, UH, A MEETING, NONPOLITICAL MEETING AND PRINCE WILLIAM, I BELIEVE, WAS IT ABOUT THE DATA CENTERS OR SOMETHING THAT THEY HAD WHERE MULTIPLE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WERE THERE?

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EACH ONE GOT UP AND EVIDENTLY SAID SOMETHING.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE FALLOUT OF THIS TIGHTENING UP OF THE FOIA IS WHAT I WAS TOLD WAS, UM, CAME OUT OF, SINCE I REMEMBER THE PRINCE WILLIAM CASE CORRECTLY, THEY ALL GOT UP AND STARTED TALKING ABOUT THEIR POSITIONS.

GOVERNOR.

SO THEY WERE, THEY WERE IN ESSENCE SPEAK AS A SUPERVISOR.

MM-HMM.

CITIZEN SUPERVISOR.

AND THEY ALL DID THAT.

THEREFORE, IF THEY'RE COPY SOMETHING IS NOT AN ORGANIZED MEETING.

, THE ARGUMENT IS THOSE DATA CENTERS, IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN A COUNTY MEETING, BUT IT WAS ON THE COUNTY.

I SEE.

ISSUE COUNTY.

SO, SO, SO I'M GONNA THINK THAT IF, IF THREE OF US WERE TO BE AT THIS, UH, REPUBLICAN COMMITTEE MEETING, WE DON'T GIVE ANY UPDATES RELATED TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN UP TO HERE.

NOT DIRECTLY ON .

NO.

OKAY.

YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE WEATHER ALL YOU WANT.

.

I, I WANT, I'M WONDERING IF, IF, UM, JUST, JUST OUT OF THE OBSERVATION THAT SO MANY OF THESE THINGS, UH, DON'T HAVE EXPENSES AND, AND FUNDING NUMBERS THAT LINE UP.

AND I KNOW THAT VERY, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE, EVEN SOME PEOPLE TODAY SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, SO AND SO PUTS THIS TOGETHER.

I DON'T REALLY KNOW.

WHATEVER.

I WONDER IF WE COULD SCREEN, WHEN I SAY WE, I MEAN YOU , AND BY YOU, I MEAN MAYBE MEGAN, I DON'T KNOW, SCREEN THESE WHEN THEY COME IN TO JUST LOOK AT 'EM AND SAY, DO WE HAVE A MILLION DOLLAR OR WHATEVER THAT ONE WAS, $250,000 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INCOME AND EXPENSES.

AND WE KNOW THAT'S JUST NOT AN ACCURATE PICTURE.

WE KNOW THERE'S NOT A $350,000, UH, SLUSH FUND.

WE, I DON'T THINK THERE IS, BUT IT'S DIFFICULT TO LOOK THROUGH ALL THESE FORMS AND NOT EVERY TIME.

I MEAN, IF THIS IS THE INFORMATION WE'RE RELYING ON NOW, THE FACT THAT THERE'S, UH, 40, 50 PAGES OF IRS DOCUMENTS AND ALL THAT AFTER THAT IS THAT'S, THAT'S TOO MUCH STUFF TO WAIT THROUGH.

THE TOP SHEET IS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR GUIDE.

UM, SO CAN WE SCREEN AND LIKE PUSH IT BACK TO THEM IF THEY DON'T, IF THEY'RE NOT CLOSE OR SAY WHY, WHY, WHY ARE, WHY IS THERE A 200,000 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INCOME AND AND EXPENSE AND SEE IF THEY CAN RECTIFY IT? I THINK THREE COMMENTS.

NUMBER ONE, THERE'S DIFFERENT TIMES THE BOARD WANTS TO BE SURE IT HAS ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT THESE AGENCIES , AND AT OTHER TIMES THEY DON'T.

AND I THINK NUMBER ONE, IT'D BEHOOVES THE AGENCY.

IF I'M OUT DOWN HERE ASKING FOR MONEY, I WANT WHOEVER WROTE THIS FORM AND KNOWS THE FORM TO BE WITH ME, QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK THAT'S ON THEM.

THAT'S TRUE.

IF I'M, IF I'M DOWN HERE ASKING YOU FOR MONEY AND YOU ASK ME A QUESTION AND I SAY, WELL, SOMEBODY ELSE DID THE FORM, THAT DOES NOT MAKE ME LOOK LIKE I KNOW WHAT I DO.

SO I THINK THAT PART OF IT'S ON THEM.

I THINK THE OTHER PART OF IT'S, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SURE THESE FORMS SEPARATE.

WHAT IS THEIR LOCAL FUNDING AND WHAT IS THEIR OUTSIDE, IF YOU WILL, FUNDING SO THAT IF THEY HAVE FUNDS, LIKE WHAT? SOIL AND CONSERVATION.

YEAH.

THAT'S THE PERFECT EXAMPLE.

THAT'S THE SEPARATE, YEAH.

AND, BUT THEY SHOULD, THEY SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE FUNDS, BUT THEY DON'T DEAL.

HERE'S WHAT WE DO WITH YOUR MONEY.

WHO'S THIS IS WHO CONTRIBUTES TO YOUR MONEY? AND THEN WE HAVE THESE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE SEPARATE OVER HERE.

YEAH.

NON DISCLOSURE ISN'T WHAT I'M SUGGESTING.

YEAH.

BUT JUST SOMEHOW PACKETING THINGS SO THAT, THAT, THAT, BECAUSE THEY, THEY WERE, THEY WERE TRYING TO EXPLAIN IT.

I STARTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WERE SAYING, BUT EVERYBODY SUBMITS THE SAME FORM.

AND I CONGRATULATE, UH, UH, I FORGET NAME RIGHT NOW FOR HAVING MATCHING NUMBERS.

OH YEAH.

BUT BECAUSE THE, UH, YEAH, THE WINCHESTER DEFENDER, THE PUBLIC DEFENDER.

YES.

OKAY.

SO IT'S PUBLIC.

THE THIRD THING I WOULD SAY IS I AGREE, UM, IN THE OFFICE WE'RE SCREENING.

YEAH.

YOU SEND SOMETHING OUT, IT SHOULD BE DRIVING.

IT'S A LOT OF PAPERWORK AND

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A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A HUMAN NATURE.

THEY FINALLY GOT THEIR PAPERWORK DONE AND JUST PUSH IT OVER AND, AND DID THIS MONTH.

YEAH.

SO YEAH, THEY HAVE TO GIVE IT TO YOU IN A LOT OF PRISON TIME.

SO HAVING A REDO IF NECESSARY ISN'T NECESSARILY, AND AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS, IF YOU MARK UP THE FORM, WE CAN CHANGE IT FOR NEXT YEAR.

OH YEAH.

UH, LIKE ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT I SEE ON HERE IS IT NEEDS TO SPECIFY ANY INSTRUCTIONS THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT.

WHO IS LOCALITY? ONE WHO IS LOCALITY TWO.

YEAH.

LOCALITY AND WHO, WHO IS CONTRIBUTING TO YOUR PROGRAM AND WHO IS NOT.

BECAUSE SOME OF THEM HAVE LIKE 18, 19 DIFFERENT LOCALITIES THAT ARE IN THEIR SERVICE AREA AND THEY GET MONEY FROM OUTSIDE THE VALLEY IF YOU, AND THAT OUGHT TO BE CLEAR TO YOU WHAT YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE PARTICIPATING.

UM, WAS THE OTHER THING I WOULD NOTE WITH, WITH THE EXCEPTION ON THE SAND PUBLIC LIBRARY, ALL OF THESE COMBINED ARE LESS THAN 1% OF THE BUDGET.

YEAH.

I, I DO RECOGNIZE THAT YOU NEED LOOK AT YOUR PICTURE.

I, I DO RECOGNIZE THAT, BUT I ALSO WANNA BE CONSISTENT.

THAT CONSISTENT.

THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT, THAT VICKY AND I NOTICED LAST YEAR THAT WAS THAT, UH, YOU'VE GOT GOT SOME AGENCIES THAT WE GIVE MONEY TO.

OKAY.

AND THEN YOU'VE GOT, INSTEAD, LIKE AGENCY A WE GIVE MONEY TO AND YOU'VE GOT AGENCY B THAT WE GIVE MONEY TO, AND THEN WE FIND OUT WHEN WE DIG A LITTLE BIT THAT AGENCY A ALSO GIVES AGENCY B SOME OF THE MONEY THAT WE GAVE THEM.

YEP.

AND SOME AGENCIES WE FIND THAT THEY, THEY KIND OF PROVIDE THE SAME SERVICE AS WELL.

THERE'S A LOT OF REDUNDANCY.

THAT A GREAT QUESTION.

NEXT THURSDAY CIRCLE.

YEP.

'CAUSE YOU'LL BE TALKING TO AGENCY A, YOUR MONEY AGENCY, .

THERE IS A LOT OF REDUNDANCY IN SOME OF THESE AGENCIES THAT WHAT THEY OFFER FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK YOU WERE STARTING TO GET, UH, YOU WERE STARTING TO TOUCH ON THAT.

THAT WAS UP HERE.

YOU ASKED ABOUT THE PHOENIX PROJECT.

EXACTLY.

UHHUH.

.

SO WHAT IS IT THAT YOU DO THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THEY DO? MM-HMM.

.

AND, AND IT HAS TO BE LIKE ONE OF THE SHORT TERM ONE'S.

LONG TERM.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

YEAH.

SO LAST THING I'D LIKE TO JUST, UM, ASK IS THAT, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE LIVE STREAMING OUR NEXT BUDGET MEETING NEXT THURSDAY.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

WE PLAN TO LIVE STREAM THEM ALL.

VERY GOOD.

SO THE PUBLIC ACT, UH, THE, THE REPUBLICAN, THE PUBLIC CAN ACTUALLY SIT IN AND LISTEN TO WHAT WE'RE DOING THE PUBLIC TONIGHT.

YEP.

THIS IS AWESOME.

GOOD.

BUT IT WAS LONG LAST WEEK.

YEAH.

THIS IS REALLY GREAT.

MIND YOU, THURSDAY, THE CLOSED SESSION WITH MR. HAM AND THE EDA.

MM-HMM.

.

AND THEN YOU START, THAT'S AT FIVE O'CLOCK AND THEN AT SIX O'CLOCK AND WE'LL START OUR PRESENTATIONS.

PERFECT.

UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDA FROM NEXT WEEK, TUESDAY AND HOW MANY PUBLIC HEARINGS MR. ANDERSON, THERE ARE NINE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING AND THERE ARE 21 UP FOR AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE.

MOST OF THE 21 ARE LEASES.

MM-HMM.

AND CONTRACTS.

THEY'RE GONNA GO PRETTY QUICK UNLESS SOMEONE IN THE BOARD SEES SOMETHING THAT'S UNUSUAL RULE ABOUT IT, BUT THEY ARE REQUIRED.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT THERE ARE ALSO SIX OR SEVEN I THINK, UH, SHORT TERM RENTAL.

YES.

AND SOME OF THE AUTHORIZATIONS THAT WE HAD ON THE SECOND ARE GOING TO BE ON THAT MEETING TOO, BECAUSE THEY HAVE UM, YES.

WHAT'S ON THE, WHAT'S ON THE 16TH? I HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK.

BUT I THINK IT'S EXCLUSIVELY CONTRACTS AND ALL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS THAT WE HAD, THEY'RE ALL GOING TO GO ON THE SIXTH.

THEY'RE ON THE SIXTH.

SO THAT FIRST GROUP OF ADDITIONAL USE PERMITS FROM DECEMBER THE SIXTH.

MM-HMM.

COMBINED.

IF WE GO WITH EVERYTHING AT ONCE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE APPROXIMATELY 31 PUBLIC HEARINGS ON TUESDAY, THE FEBRUARY 6TH.

SO WE NEED TO,

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TO LOOK AND THINK ABOUT, DO WE WANT TO DO THOSE WITH THE THOUGHT THAT THE, UM, LEASES WILL GO FAIRLY QUICKLY OR DO WE JUST WANT TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT FOURTH MEETING DATE ON THERE? YOU CAN DO THAT, THAT AT ANY TIME.

I WAS GONNA SAY, THINK ABOUT IT AND, UM, LET ME KNOW AND YOU JUST MEAN HAVE A SUPER LONG MEETING OR ELSE, OR ELSE NOT HAVE A SUPER LONG MEETING AND HAVE ANOTHER MEETING.

WHEN WE HAVE THESE, WE WOULD HAVE A HARD STOP AT SEVEN 30, GO THROUGH 31, UM, PUBLIC HEARINGS, WHICH WE, WE WERE, MR. HENDERSON AND I WERE TALKING, IF YOU HAVE THE LEASES AND THE CONTRACTS AND NO ONE SPEAKS ON THEM, THERE'RE AN AVERAGE OF THREE TO FOUR MINUTES, GIVE OR TAKE WITH JUST THE PROCEDURE OF, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE PUBLIC HEARING.

YOU TIMES THAT BY 31.

UM, THEN IT, YOU GET OFF KILTER A LITTLE ON ANY OF THOSE AND YOU HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL TIME.

BUT THEN WE HAD, UM, SHORT TERM RENTALS, AND THOSE ARE A TOSSUP AS TO SOMETIMES THEY GO QUICKLY AND SOMETIMES THEY CAN BE LENGTHY.

THEN YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO YOUR REGULAR BUSINESS MEETING AND FINISH THAT UP.

SO HAS POTENTIAL TO BE A LONG NIGHT.

AND IS THAT BUDGET, IS THAT BUDGET PRESENTATIONS THE REGULAR AGENDA AFTER, AFTER ALL THAT? IS THAT MORE OF THE, WHERE THE AGENCIES COME IN? THAT'S MORE OF WHATEVER'S ON THE AGENDA FOR BUSINESS.

OH, OKAY.

IT'S A VOTING MEETING.

DO YOU MEAN IF YOU, IF YOU MOVE THE HEARINGS TO THE COURT TO SPEAK? YEAH.

I MEAN, UH, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AFTER ALL THAT TIME? ARE THERE MORE AGENCIES SCHEDULED THAT, THAT, THAT EVENING? OR IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED? SIX TO SEVEN 30? IF YOU SAID WE'D BE LOOKING AT THE END OF FEBRUARY.

SO WE, I DON'T HAVE THAT THE END OF FEBRUARY.

WE WILL JANUARY 30TH, WE ANTICIPATE EMPHASIS ON THE WORD ANTICIPATE.

EVERYTHING'S FLEXIBLE, BUT WE ANTICIPATE WE WILL FINISH OUR PARTNER AGENCY ON THE 30TH AND WE'LL DO THE LIBRARY.

MM-HMM.

.

AND THEN FEBRUARY 8TH, WE'LL BEGIN YOUR MEETINGS WITH COUNTY DEPARTMENTS AND WE'LL HAVE TWO OR THREE OF THOSE SCHEDULED EACH EVENING.

AND WE'LL BE LOOKING AT TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS.

TUESDAYS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A REGULAR MEETING AND THURSDAYS IN FEBRUARY.

AND ANTICIPATE TO GET ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE COUNTY DEPARTMENTS IN THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS IN SO THAT BY FEBRUARY 29TH YOU HAVE HEARD EVERYBODY'S REQUEST THAT YOU COULD START, NUMBER ONE, YOU'LL MEET SCHOOL BOARD, AND NUMBER TWO, YOU HAVE ONE PAGE OF CLEAR GOV, SHOWS YOU THE TOTAL REQUEST RIGHT NOW.

AND WE'LL HAVE IN FEBRUARY, WE'LL HAVE ANTICIPATED REVENUE, SEE WHAT LOOK LIKE.

UM, SO I'M SORRY.

SO, UM, SO ONCE WE GET OUR ARMS AROUND THE REVENUE IN FEBRUARY, THEN WOULD THE PROCESS BE THAT EACH OF US CAN GO THROUGH CLEAR GOV AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, TO THE, TO YOU OF WHICH BUDGETS WE WOULD LIKE TO CUT? ANYTHING THAT YOU WANNA I DO NOT ANTICIPATE ANY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE REVENUE SIDE.

MM-HMM.

, WITHOUT ADJUSTING TAX RATES OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, I THINK YOU WILL, YOU HAVE 1.5 MILLION THAT IS THIS YEAR'S BUDGET FOR EDA RECOVERIES.

AS YOU KNOW, THE LEGAL WORK ON EDA IS ABOUT COMPLETE ALL THE, THEY'VE HAD ALL THE TRIALS, THE CIVIL TRIALS, THERE'S A COUPLE OF CASES ON APPEAL.

SO YOU'LL BE VERY CLOSE TO HAVING THE REVENUE THAT YOU WILL RECEIVE.

AND INSTEAD OF 1.5, LIKE THIS YEAR, THAT NUMBER'S GONNA DROP.

AND YOU'LL BE LOOKING HOW YOU CAN CORRESPONDINGLY REDUCE YOUR EXPENSES.

SO THAT WOULD, MY COMMENT TO THAT IS, UM, HOW IMPORTANT

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IT IS THAT WE GET OUR PRIORITIES AND OBJECTIVES, UM, OUT.

BECAUSE IN MY MIND, IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME REVENUE TO ALLOCATE TO DIFFERENT PLACES, THEN LAST YEAR I WOULD GO TO OUR OBJECTIVES AND PRIORITIES TO HELP US DECIDE WHERE WE WANT TO REALLOCATE THOSE, THOSE DOLLARS.

SO THAT'S MY OPINION ANYWAY.

SO, AND THOSE SHOULD BE COMING.

THOSE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COMING BACK HIGH, MEDIUM, AND LOW.

MM-HMM.

.

SO I'VE BEEN WAITING TO GET A NEW FORM.

SO AM I, SO , AM I NOT FOLLOWING THIS CORRECTLY? IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE, WE'LL SEND YOU ANOTHER FORM.

YES, MA'AM.

M THE EXCEL SHEET.

YEAH.

MM-HMM.

, I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA GET A, A NEW ONE TO ADD MS. CALLER'S THREE OBJECTIVES.

I'M, I'M GUILTY.

I WAS WORKING ON IT TODAY, BUT I'M GUILTY.

WELL, OF DRAGGING.

WELL, NO, NO, BECAUSE I'M SITTING HERE THINKING I WAS WAITING TO SEE A NEW FORM, BUT IF WE'RE NOT GONNA GET A NEW FORM, THEN I'LL GO AHEAD AND, AND DO WHAT I NEED TO DO.

IF I, IF I UNDERSTOOD IT CORRECTLY, DR.

JAMISON WAS WORKING ON A SUGGESTED FORM.

I'M TRYING, YEAH.

OH, FOR US TO USE? YEAH.

OH, COOL.

I MEAN, A TEMPLATE, UM, IF THERE IS A NEW FORM, IF YOU WORK ON ONE, COULD YOU NUMBER EVERYTHING SO THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, WE CAN SAY NUMBER 12.

OKAY.

WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS, AND I'M GONNA GIVE IT TO ZACH THAT PUT ALL THE, THE ACTUAL STUFFING IS A TEMPLATE.

AND I WANT TO TRY TO DESCRIBE IT, AND I WISH I HAD A WHITEBOARD, BUT, AND, AND FRANKLY I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE HIGH, MEDIUM, LOW MIGHT BE, IT MIGHT BETTER TO JUST, WE HAD HIGH AND NOT HIGH.

OKAY.

THAT'S JUST AN ASIDE.

H UH, BUT, BUT THE POINT IS THAT, THAT, THAT THERE'S A, THAT, AND WE DID DISCUSS THIS THE OTHER DAY, BUT, BUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE, PROJECTS THAT ARE, HAVE A DEFINITIVE END DATE, REQUIRE DEFINITIVE RESOURCES.

THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE AMORPHOUS, LIKE HAVE BETTER COMMUNICATIONS.

OKAY.

THAT'S AN EXAMPLE.

SO THOSE ARE ASPIRATIONAL.

I WANT TO SEPARATE THOSE BECAUSE I WANT THE, I WANT FOR US, AND I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE WITH THIS.

I'M, I, I'M DRAGGING MY FEET.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

BUT THE POINT IS THAT THE THINGS THAT ARE ON, ON THE TOP SECTION OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE FIN END STATES THAT REQUIRE RESOURCES AND THERE'S HIGH AND EVERYTHING'S RIGHT OF HIGH, AND IT'S, WE NEED TO BE FOCUSING ON HIGH.

AND ONCE SOMETHING'S DONE, IT MOVES INTO A FINISHED, SO WE CAN SEE THINGS MOVING OVER.

THEN WHEN THOSE ARE DONE, AS THOSE ARE BEING FINISHED, THE LESS IMPORTANT THINGS CAN COME ON.

BUT THE, THE, THE, THE POINT IS TO, TO KNOW WHAT'S FRONT AND CENTER.

AND IF IT'S ON THE RIGHT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA DISTRACT US.

AND I'LL, I'LL TRY AND GET THAT OUT TOMORROW.

IT'S, IT'S A VISUAL CONCEPT AS MUCH AS ANYTHING.

ANYTHING ELSE, BE GLAD TO.

SO STAY TUNED, HUH? TOMORROW.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING I APPRECIATE THAT.

IT'S NOT RADICAL, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST I THINK HELPFUL, I THINK AND IF, AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE IDEA, IT'S, I'M NOT GONNA BE OFFENDED.

WELL, THE BOARD HAS DONE I MEETING THE WORLD BEFORE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SOME SHOULD KNOW.

I THINK IT'S ALSO A COMMUNICATION DEVICE SO THAT THE, OUR CONSTITUENTS CAN SEE US WORKING AND MOVING THINGS INTO THE FINISHED MM-HMM.

.

UM, RATHER THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I'M OFF .

SORRY.

WELL, YOU, UH, AND I KNOW WE, I KNOW EVERYONE WANTS TO GO, BUT, UM, I WENT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING AND YEAH.

AND THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE GO, THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THEIR BUDGET FEBRUARY 7TH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THE FIRST WEEK IN FEBRUARY, BUT THEY DIDN'T ATTACH ANY BUDGET BACK, BACK DATA FOR US TO LOOK AT IT.

SO, UM, AT WHAT POINT DO YOU THINK WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD? I THINK, YEAH, I THINK NEXT WEEK ONE OF THE ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA IS TO LOOK AT THE COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS.

AND ONCE THE COMMITTEE OR APPOINTMENTS ARE MADE, THEN I THINK THE, UH, COUNTY MEMBERS OF THE SCHOOL FINANCE COMMITTEE SHOULD CONTACT THE TWO SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AND SET UP A MEETING.

YEAH.

BECAUSE I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE WHATEVER THE PUBLIC GETS IN FEBRUARY.

SO ANYWAY, WE'LL JUST WAIT FOR WHO'S, YOU KNOW, UH, THE COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS.

I THINK AFTER, MAKE SURE YOU GET MRS. COLORS ALL YOUR RE COMMITTEE REQUESTS NEXT WEEK.

I GOT THE LAST OF THEM TODAY.

I'LL HAVE THEM OUT TOMORROW.

OH.

ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

I'VE GOT TWO, UH, DATE RELATED QUESTIONS FOR THE, UM, PARDON MY DUST, UH, MEETING ON

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THE 17TH.

UH, YES IS THE TIME FOR THAT SET.

UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE I'M AWARE OF, OF THAT AND CAN ATTEND THAT.

I THINK IT'S AN EARLY EVENING.

LET ME CHECK TO BE SURE.

ZACH, HELP ME REMEMBER TO CHECK WITH MIKE BERRY ON WHEN TO PARDON? OUR DUST MEETING IS OKAY.

I THINK IT'S SEVEN O'CLOCK, BUT I'M, I MAY BE WRONG.

OKAY.

AND THEN SECONDLY, I'LL JUST, I'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL.

I'VE GOT SOME TRAVEL, UH, PROFESSIONALLY IN MARCH, SO OKAY.

CERTAIN MEETINGS I, I MAY HAVE TO REMOTE MY WAY INTO, SO I'LL, I'LL LET YOU KNOW.

WE CAN DO THAT JUST FOR ONE WEEK.

SO ANYTHING ELSE? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

THANK YOU AND EVERYONE.

SAFE GRAVE HOME.

GOOD JOB.