[00:00:08]
[B. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America]
EVERYONE.I WANNA WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE FEBRUARY SIXTHS.
THAT MEANS WE'RE NOT BEING RECORDED.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE DO INDEED.
PRAISE AND THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY.
YOU'VE GIVEN US, UH, A NOON DAY OF LIFE.
AND FATHER, WE, WE ARE REMINDED THAT, UH, LIFE COMES FROM YOU AND, UH, THE PRIVILEGES THAT WE ENJOY IN THIS GREAT LAND.
AS THE MOTTO ON THE WALL BEHIND THE COUNCIL SAYS, IN GOD, WE TRUST AND IT'S ON ALL OF OUR MONEY.
AND SO, FATHER, MAY WE REMIND OURSELVES THAT, UH, WE MUST TRUST YOU.
AND I DO PRAY FOR THE COUNCIL.
UH, MAY THEY REALIZE THAT THEY ARE YOUR SERVANTS, AND THAT THEY NEED TO SEEK YOUR WISDOM AND THE DECISIONS THAT THEY WILL MAKE WITH THE PRIVILEGES THAT WE ENJOY.
AND SO I DO PRAY FOR THEM THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM WISDOM AS THEY SEEK TO DO THAT, WHICH IS RIGHT AND JUST, AND THAT FATHER, THEY WOULD SEEK TO PLEASE YOU IN THEIR DECISIONS.
AND WE WILL THANK YOU IN CHRIST'S NAME.
AND IF EVERYONE WILL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE TO THE FLAG ON THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
SO I'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
[C. Adoption of Agenda – Additions or Deletions]
ON THE ADOPTION OF THE ADDIT, UH, AGENDA, I'D LIKE TO, UM, ADD VDOT, MR. CARTER FOR HIS REPORT AND WARREN COUNTY FIRE AND RESCUE.UM, THEY WERE NOT PUT ON, SO IF WE COULD HAVE A MOTION TO PUT THEM ON, UH, BEFORE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
SO AT THIS TIME, MR. CARTER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE US YOUR VDOT REPORT, SIR.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIRMAN, AND CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS.
I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN ABLE TO BE BEFORE YOU AS A, AS A WHOLE TO GIVE A REPORT.
UM, I HAVE MY ASSISTANT WITH ME TONIGHT, MATT, FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.
NUMBER ONE, HE'S SMARTER THAN I AM.
AND, UH, NUMBER TWO, UH, I'M HAVING SOME BACK ISSUES.
SO, UH, IF I HAVE TO SIT DOWN, HE CAN TAKE UP.
UH, THIS IS OUR REPORT FOR JANUARY AND FEBRUARY OF 2024.
UNDER OUR MAINTENANCE ISSUES, UH, WE MOBILIZED AND PERFORMED SNOW REMOVAL OPERATIONS FOR, WE HAD SEVERAL EVENTS IN JANUARY.
UH, SOME OF THEM, UH, LESS SIGNIFICANT THAN OTHERS, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO MOBILIZE THE EQUIPMENT FOR 'EM.
WE CUT BRUSH ALONG THREE 40 SOUTH.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT ON VARIOUS OTHER ROUTES THIS MONTH.
WE ALSO GRADED AN APPLIED STONE WHERE NEEDED.
AND THIS IS THE TIME OF YEAR WHEN OUR GRAVEL ROADS GET IN ROUGH SHAPE AND, AND WE TRY TO STAY AHEAD OF THEM.
UM, WE'LL CONTINUE THAT THIS MONTH.
WE'VE CLEANED UP DEBRIS FROM DOWN TREES.
UM, SO WE HAD ROAD CLOSURES RESULTING FROM HIGH WATER EVENTS.
AND THEN, UH, WE ALSO HAVE DEBRIS STILL AT ROUTE SIX 13 AND, AND 6 24 BRIDGES.
AND THAT, THAT DEBRIS IS REQUIRING US TO GET A, UH, AN ARTICULATING BOOM TRUCK, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE.
SO WE HAD TO GET ONE UNDER CONTRACT.
OUR BRIDGE PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THAT UNDERWAY THIS WEEK.
UH, WE'LL BE DOING SHOULDER REPAIRS THIS MONTH ON VARIOUS ROADS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
THIS IS ALSO A TIME OF YEAR WHEN THE GROUND'S SOFT, IT FREEZES, AND SO PEOPLE RUN OFF THE ROAD AND WE GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO REPAIR THAT FOR 'EM.
OUR REGIONAL JAIL CREWS, THEY PICKED
[00:05:01]
UP 48 BAGS OF TRASH ALONG ROUTE SIX 19.UNDER BOARD CONCERNS, UH, WE HELD A CITIZENS INFORMATION MEETING ON THE ROCKLAND ROAD OVERPASS.
WE HAD AN EXTREMELY GOOD ATTENDANCE, AND, UH, WITH THE MAIN CONCERNS BEING EMERGENCY RESPONSE WHEN THE ROAD IS CLOSED, AND THE ACTUAL ROAD SAFETY FOR ROCKLAND ROAD BETWEEN THE PROJECT LIMITS AND FAIRGROUNDS ROAD.
UH, WE HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE WARREN COUNTY FOREIGN RESCUE TO PLAN FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE WHEN ROCKLAND ROADS CLOSED.
AND ACTIONS THAT VDOT IS TAKEN IN.
THE PROCESS OF TAKING AND WILL BE TAKEN DURING THROUGH THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT IS, UH, WE'RE GOING TO LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT ON ROCKLAND ROAD, AND THAT'LL BE A PERMANENT LOWER.
AFTER RIDING THROUGH IT, UH, WE'RE GOING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING'S GONNA COME UP.
WE, WE WILL BE LOWER THAN THE, THE 40 THAT'S POSTED.
WE'RE ALSO PLACING A CAMERA AT FAIRGROUNDS ROAD AND A RAILROAD CROSSING.
AND THIS WILL BE TIED TO THE 5 1 1 SYSTEM THAT WILL ALLOW, UH, FOREIGN RESCUE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT TO LOOK AT THAT TRACK AT ANY TIME BY GOING ON 5 1 1 AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC TO SEE IF THAT CROSSING IS BLOCKED.
NOW, WE ARE LIMITED ON RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, THAT'S ONLY A 30 FOOT PRESCRIPTIVE EASEMENT OUT THROUGH THERE, BUT WE WROTE IT THE OTHER DAY.
UH, WITH OUR MATE, WITH MY MAINTENANCE SUPERINTENDENT, WE FEEL THERE'S SOME PLACES THAT WE CAN LAY THE DITCH BACK FURTHER AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SHOULDER AND STONE, AND HE INTENDS TO ATTACH THAT WITH TAR TO HELP HOLD IT.
SO IT WON'T BE ON THE WHOLE ROUTE, BUT IT, THERE WILL BE SOME PLACES IF TWO VEHICLES MEET, THAT ALLOW THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM TO, TO GET BY EACH OTHER.
UH, WE'RE GOING TO WORK REWORK THE SHOULDERS AS WE DO THIS JUST AS SOON AS THE WEATHER IS STABLE ENOUGH THAT WE CAN CONTINUE, UH, AND GET IT ALL DONE.
THE CONTRACTORS AGREED TO KEEP MOST OF HIS HAULING TRUCKS ON THE 5 22 SIDE TO THE JOB SITE.
SO THAT WILL HELP ELIMINATE SOME OF THE FEARS PEOPLE HAD WITH THE LARGE TRUCKS BRINGING MATERIALS IN ON THE, UH, FROM THE FAIRGROUNDS ROAD.
AND IN OUR AREA, SUPERINTENDENT WILL BE REGULARLY INSPECTING THAT ROADWAY, UH, FOR SHOULDERS THAT NEED MAINTENANCE BECAUSE THEY WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE TO, VEHICLES WILL CONTINUE TO, TO, UH, RUN OFF OF 'EM AND BREAK 'EM UP.
SO HE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS.
THE STAR STUDY FOR ROUTE THREE 40 AND 5 22 FROM FRONT ROYAL TO THE LIMITS OF COUNTRY CLUB ROAD IS IN PROGRESS.
UM, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THINGS CRASH HISTORY.
THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THE TYPES OF CRASHES.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO CHANGE PAVEMENT MARKINGS, WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO, UM, UH, LOOK AT, UH, THEN THIS IS, LET ME SAY THAT THIS IS SEPARATE FROM THE SMART SCALE, THIS PLACE IN LIGHTING THROUGH THERE.
THIS IS, THIS IS JUST THE, THE TRAFFIC FLOW ITSELF.
AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL HAVE THAT, UH, REPORT TO US.
UH, WHEN, WHEN ARE THEY EXPECTING THAT REPORT? THAT SPRING, HUH? LATER THE SPRING.
AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT TO THE BOARD.
THEY DID A SPEED STUDY FOR UNPOSTED SIX 15 AND 6 61 WAKELAND MILL ROAD.
AND, UM, TRAFFIC AGREED THAT, UH, THAT SHOULD BE REDUCED.
AND THOSE NEW SIGNS HAVE BEEN POSTED.
THAT ROAD IS NOW POSTED AT 45 MILES PER HOUR.
WE HAD A REQUEST TO REVIEW THE SIGNAGE ON THREE 40 AND FIVE NINE, UH, SIX, I'M SORRY, SIX 19.
TRAFFIC ENGINEERING IS MADE A FIELD TRIP LAST WEEK.
I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THEIR REPORT ON THOSE SUGGESTIONS YET.
NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
I KNOW THE COMMUNITY IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE CLOSURES OF, UH, SH NORTH SHORES ROAD AND 6 24 BY THE RAILROAD.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, EXIST IS THE RAILROAD COMPANY OWNS THE RIGHT OF WAY IN WHICH THEIR TRACKS SET.
V EVEN THE PORTION THAT CROSSES OUR ROADWAYS.
VDOT HAS NO JURISDICTION OVER THAT RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, WE ONLY HAVE JURISDICTION UP TO IT.
AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, FROM THAT RIGHT OF WAY ON, UH, THERE'S ALSO A STATE CODE SECTION THAT SAYS THE RAILROAD COMPANY IS RESPONSIBLE
[00:10:01]
TO MAINTAIN THAT CROSSING ON THEIR RIGHT OF WAY.SO SOMETIMES THE RAILROAD COMPANY GOES IN AND DOES THIS AND THEY, IT'S NECESSARY TO CLOSE A ROAD.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY, WE, UH, CHAND SHORES HAS NO ALTERNATE ROUTE IN.
SO WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE RAILROAD COMPANY AND THEY HAVE TOLD US THAT THEY WILL BE PREPARED WITH ENOUGH MATERIALS THERE TO ALLOW EMERGENCY ACCESS INTO THAT ROAD.
IF ONE ARISES, THEY EXPECT THE ROAD TO BE CLOSED ONE DAY FROM APPROXIMATELY EIGHT IN THE MORNING TO APPROXIMATELY THREE IN THE AFTERNOON.
AND THEN THEY'LL, THEY WILL BE OUT OF THERE.
AND THAT MESSAGE IS GOING OUT TO THE PUBLIC, UH, BY OUR PUBLIC, BY OUR, UH, PUBLIC AFFAIRS PEOPLE THIS WEEK.
AND, UM, SO I, I, I KNOW FOLKS ARE UPSET.
I KNOW IT'S INCONVENIENT, BUT SO FAR AS VDOT BEING ABLE TO STOP IT, WE CANNOT THEN ON THAT WILL OCCUR ON THE 14TH OF FEBRUARY.
THEN ON THE 15TH OF FEBRUARY, THE VERY NEXT DAY THEY WILL CLOSE HAPPY CREEK ROAD AT THAT CROSSING FOR MAINTENANCE FROM APPROXIMATELY EIGHT IN THE MORNING TILL SIX THAT AFTERNOON.
NOW, FORTUNATELY, THERE'S A VIABLE DETOUR ROUTE, ALBEIT LONGER PEOPLE CAN GET AROUND THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? JUST ONE OR TWO FROM MY CONSTITUENTS, AND YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS, BUT I'VE BEEN ASKED, UH, REPEATEDLY, WHY CAN'T THEY DO THAT WORK, UH, IN THE OVERNIGHT HOURS? AND ALSO WHY WAS THE, UH, HEADS UP SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF NOTICE NINE DAYS OR, OR 10 DAYS INSTEAD OF MONTHS? WELL, A A ACTUALLY THIS IS MORE NOTICE THAN WE GENERALLY GET.
UH, WE WERE NOTIFIED, UH, LAST WEEK ON THIS, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SEEING WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE AND, UH, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN TILL THE 14TH.
WE HAVE HAD, UH, OCCASIONS WHERE WE GOT CALLS THAT MORNING THEY WERE CLOSING.
SO WE CONSIDER THIS PRETTY DECENT NOTICE FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE.
UH, THE, UH, THE AFTER HOURS WORK, I'M SURE I, I DON'T KNOW.
I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE RAILROAD.
I, I'M CERTAIN THAT DAYLIGHT, UH, PROVIDES ADVANTAGE TO GET IT DONE QUICKER.
IT MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THEIR TRAIN SCHEDULE.
SO, SO MR. CARTER, SO WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY CLOSED THE, THE ROAD ACCESS, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY CLOSED THE RAILROAD TRACKS ALSO? UH, I DO NOT KNOW.
YOU KNOW, I I I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEIR MAINTENANCE, UH, FUNCTION IS GOING TO CONSIST OF AT THE CROSSING.
THEY DON'T GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, TELL US THE, UH, CHAIRMAN COLORS ASK ABOUT TWO LEGISLATIVE PIECES.
THE OTHER IS SENATE BILL 6 44.
PRIMARILY, THEY ARE IDENTICAL.
I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE, UH, WHAT THE FINAL VERBIAGE IS GONNA BE.
AND WHEN, WHEN I INQUIRED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY, I WAS TOLD THAT THE INTENT WAS TO ALLOW COUNTIES WITH MORE, UH, OR A HUNDRED, SEVERAL HUNDRED MILES OF DIRT ROAD OR GRAVEL ROADS, WHAT WE CALL STABILIZED ROADS THAT DON'T WANT TO PAVE THEM, BUT NEED MORE MAINTENANCE MONEY TO MAINTAIN THEM.
AND I'M TOLD THAT, UH, UH, THAT THAT'S WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE BILL TO ALLOW THEM TO DIP INTO THE UNPAVED ROADS FUND TO DO THAT MAINTENANCE AND TO HAVE SOME SAY SO IN IT.
UM, I DON'T FORESEE ANY OF THE COUNTIES IN MY AREA BECAUSE OF, OF HOW SMALL THEY ARE, IT IMPACTING THEM.
BUT UNTIL I SEE THE FINAL BILL, I DON'T KNOW.
AND THOSE, IT JUST REFERS TO STATE, UM, STABILIZED ROADS.
ONES THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE STATE SYSTEM.
UM, AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT FIRE AND RESCUE TO WRAP INTO YOUR COMMENTS ON THE RAILROAD CROSSING, BUT BEFORE WE GET THERE, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE SIGN THAT'S JUST SIX 19 AND THREE 40 INTERSECTION.
UM, ARE THEY ALSO LOOKING TO REALIGN THOSE STOPLIGHTS BECAUSE YOU HAVE REALLY
[00:15:01]
TWO STOPLIGHTS FOR ONE LANE NOW AND THE ONE NEEDS TO BE SHIFTED OVER? I ASKED, I ASKED THEM TO LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE CONCERNS.I'LL, I'LL LET YOU KNOW AS SOON AS THEY GET BACK TO ME.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THE WAY, THE WAY THE FLOW IS NOW YOU CAN, UM, YOU CAN TURN RIGHT ON A RED LIGHT IF YOU STOP MM-HMM.
UM, BUT IF THE RED LIGHT IS NOT ALIGNED, I, I JUST THINK THAT'S PUTTING PEOPLE AT A DISADVANTAGE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DISADVANTAGE IT'S PUTTING LAW ENFORCEMENT IF THEY GO THERE AND SEE SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T QUITE STOP ALL THE WAY AND IT JUST, I THINK REALIGNING IT WOULD TAKE THAT, UH, ISSUE OUT OF THAT.
SO WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO FINDING OUT THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE UP HERE LAST WEEK TO LOOK AT THAT, SO.
AND IF MR. FOLEY, YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR, AND THEN IF MR. CARTER HAS ANYTHING TO PUT IN WITH YOU ON FIRE AND RESCUES, UH, PLAN TO DEAL WITH THOSE CLOSURES.
SO, GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR AND, AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE BOARD, UH, MR. CARTER DID AN EXCELLENT JOB SO FAR OF EXPLAINING KIND OF WHAT IS GOING ON.
UM, AS YOU KNOW THAT NORFOLK AND SOUTHERN IS GOING TO BE CLOSING CHEN OR SHORES ROAD AT THE RAIL CROSSING AT HAPPY CREEK ROAD.
UH, AND THAT CLOSURE'S GONNA TAKE PLACE ON FEBRUARY 14TH, 2024.
UH, AND THEY'RE GOING TO REPLACE THE ENTIRE ROAD CROSSING.
SO THEY'RE GONNA PULL EVERYTHING OUT OF THERE.
IT'LL BE JUST A BIG OPEN HOLE, UH, WHILE THEY PULL EVERYTHING OUT.
UH, NORFOLK AND SOUTHERN HAS COMMUNICATED TO US THAT THE DISCLOSURES EXPECTED TO LAST FROM 8:00 AM UNTIL 3:00 PM UH, THIS WILL WORK WILL TAKE PLACE REGARDLESS OF THE WEATHER.
SO WARREN COUNTY, UH, FIRE AND RESCUE HAS, HAS MET WITH ALL OF OUR, OUR KEY LEADERS AND DETERMINED THAT SINCE THE SHEOR SHORES STATION IS CURRENTLY UNSTAFFED DURING, UH, THE DAY PERIODS OR FOR 24 HOURS PERIOD, UH, WE ARE GOING TO UP STAFF THAT STATION WITH FIRE AND EMS PERSONNEL.
UH, AND THERE WILL BE AN ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT CONTINGENT AT THAT STATION.
UH, AND WE WILL HAVE PERSONNEL AT THAT STATION FROM SEVEN IN THE MORNING, UH, UNTIL AT LEAST SEVEN IN THE EVENING OR UNTIL THE ROADWAY IS OPENED.
UH, WE ALSO MET WITH THE WARREN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND FRONT ROYAL POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THEY ARE, UH, GOING TO STAFF, UH, DEPUTIES AND POLICE OFFICERS IN THAT AREA FOR THE SAME TIME PERIOD SO THAT WE HAVE FIRE AND RESCUE COVERAGE AND WE HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT COVERAGE, UH, IN THAT AREA.
AND THEN I, AS THE EMERGENCY MANAGER, WILL MONITOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND STAY, UH, ABREAST OF ANY DELAYS OR ANY PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAVE, UH, WITH GETTING THE ROAD OPEN, UM, BY THE ANTICIPATED DEADLINE OF 3:00 PM UH, WE'VE ALSO MET WITH WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND WHY I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEIR EXACT PLAN IS GOING TO BE.
RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE MONITORING THE SITUATION IN OUR WORKING ON A CONTINGENCY PLAN, SHOULD THE ROADWAY BE CLOSED WHEN, UM, THE SCHOOL LETS OUT.
UM, AS YOU ALSO KNOW, THE HAPPY CREEK ROAD THERE AT DISMAL HOLLOW ROAD, THAT CROSSING WILL ALSO BE CLOSED ON FEBRUARY 15TH FROM 8:00 AM TILL FIVE OR 6:00 PM AND THEY ALREADY DO HAVE DETOUR, UH, SIGNS IN PLACE.
AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
JUST THANK YOU FOR ALL THE CONTINGENCY PLANNING.
UM, IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO KNOW WE'LL HAVE PEOPLE BACK THERE THAT COULD ATTEND TO AN EMERGENCY.
AND IT IS CORRECT THAT IN A TRUE EMERGENCY WHERE SAY ANOTHER STATION HAD TO RESPOND TO A FIRE, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO QUICKLY, UH, CREATE A GRAVEL PATH FOR A FIRE TRUCK TO GET THROUGH.
CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE TOLD US.
THERE APPARENTLY IS ALREADY GRAVEL IN PLACE THERE THAT ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS, IS FILL THE HOLE IN.
HOWEVER IT WILL BE, UH, DELAY GETTING THEM TO DO THAT.
UH, THEN IT ALSO, IF THEY HAVE TO PUT THAT GRAVEL DOWN, THAT WILL ALSO DELAY, UH, THEM COMPLETING THE PROJECT ON TIME BECAUSE THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO DIG IT BACK OUT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. CARTER? AWESOME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
WE HAVE ABOUT 10 MINUTES BEFORE SEVEN 30, AND WE HAVE A HARD STOP AT SEVEN 30 BECAUSE WE HAVE 25 PUBLIC HEARINGS TO GET THROUGH.
SO WE CAN DO ONE OF TWO THINGS.
WE CAN DO 10 MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN FINISH THAT UP AT THE END OF THE MEETING AFTER, UM, THE BUSINESS PART WITH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND SO FORTH.
OR WE CAN DO BO BOARD REPORTS AND THEN GIVE A FULL
[00:20:01]
HOUR OF PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END.WHAT IS THE FEELING OF THE BOARD? LET'S JUST FOLLOW THE AGENDA.
WELL THEN THAT WILL GIVE US ABOUT
[D. Public Comment Period (60 Minute Time Limit) I]
EIGHT MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT.SO MR. HENDERSON, FIRST, DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR THAT? YEAH.
MR. HENDERSON, WILL YOU KEEP TRACK OF WHAT WE HAVE AT THE END SO WE MAKE SURE.
AND YOUR, UM, NAME AND JUST YOUR DISTRICT YOU LIVE IN.
HELLO, MY NAME IS BETHANY O'NEILL AND I'M A 15 YEAR WARREN COUNTY RESIDENT OF THE NORTH RIVER DISTRICT.
I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE OF WHAT I SAW AND HEARD WHILE WATCHING THE JANUARY 30TH VIDEO OF THE WORK SESSION WITH SAMUEL'S PUBLIC LIBRARY, GIVING THEIR MID-YEAR PERFORMANCE PRESENTATION.
I'M HERE BECAUSE OF THE SMUGNESS OF QUESTIONING FROM PARTICULAR BOARD MEMBERS, THE BODY LANGUAGE, THE FACIAL EXPRESSIONS, THE SILLY CUP ANALOGY, THE WORD CONTROVERSY USED TO DESCRIBE WHAT RECENTLY HAPPENED TO THE LIBRARY.
IT WASN'T A CONTROVERSY, IT WAS A HATE CAMPAIGN.
THE MENTION OF NOT WANTING TO SPREAD NEGATIVITY WHEN YOU HAD NO PROBLEM DOING THAT WHEN YOU PUBLICLY ATTACK THE LIBRARY, NOT USE SUPERVISOR COLORS.
SO WITH THE CUP ANALOGY, HOW DOES ONE FILL THE BOTTOM OF THE CUP WITH DONATIONS? WHEN DONATIONS ARE NOT GUARANTEED? HOW IS ONE SUPPOSED TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON WHEN DONATIONS ARE EARMARKED FOR CERTAIN ITEMS? WHY EVEN ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF REDUCING THE LIBRARY BUDGET FOR THE LIBRARY BEING GOOD AT FUNDRAISING? WOULD YOU REDUCE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS' BUDGETS BECAUSE OF SUCCESSFUL BOOT DRIVES, WINE POOLS, POLAR PLUNGES, GALAS, ET CETERA? ARE YOU FORGETTING THE LIBRARY HAS OVER 20,000 PATRONS, NOT COUNTING VISITORS THAT WALK THROUGH THE DOORS? THE LIBRARY WILL NEVER TURN YOU DOWN FOR THE WAY YOU LOOK, THE WAY YOU LOVE, THE WAY YOU PRAY.
THE LIBRARY IS THE ONLY PLACE THAT I CAN THINK OF IN THIS TOWN THAT YOU CAN TAKE THE WHOLE FAMILY AND LEAVE YOUR WALLET AT HOME.
THE ONLY PLACE OFFERING OVER 650 PROGRAMS IN A YEAR FOR ABSOLUTELY FREE.
MAYBE YOU OR MAYBE SOME OF YOU IN THE COMMUNITY DON'T REALIZE THAT THE LIBRARY IS MORE THAN BOOKS.
EVERYTHING I'M ABOUT TO MENTION IS FREE FOR THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO PHYSICALLY BE IN THE LIBRARY TO ACCESS IT, WHICH YOU SHOULD STOP BY BECAUSE IT'S CLEAN, WELCOMING, AND SAFE.
ACCESS TO THE MOST FRIENDLY AND COMPASSIONATE LIBRARIANS AND SNAP STAFF.
FREE COVID TESTS, HOTSPOTS AND LAPTOP CHECKOUTS, WIFI THROUGHOUT THE LIBRARY.
PLENTY OF PLUGIN ELECTRICAL OUTLETS, AIR CONDITIONING IN THE HOT MONTHS, HEAT IN THE COLD MONTHS MEETING SPACE.
30 COMPUTERS PER PUBLIC ACCESS RESOURCES FOR VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES.
JOB SEEKING RESOURCES AND SEARCH ENGINES.
LEARN 110 LANGUAGES, OVER 500 ONLINE COURSES, PHYSICAL BOOKS, EBOOKS, AUDIOBOOKS, BOOK BUNDLES, ACCESS TO LOANS FROM OTHER LIBRARIES, DVDS, VIDEO GAMES, DATABASES FOR MU FREE MUSIC TO DOWNLOAD OR STREAM, MOVIES, TV SHOWS, PERIODICALS, NEWSPAPERS, RESEARCHER, FAMILY TREE, A, B, C, MOUSE, TEXT RESOURCES FOR STUDENTS, ONLINE TUTORING, PRACTICE TEST, ONLINE CAREER ASSISTANCE, LEGAL FORMS, VIRTUAL MUSEUM TOURS, KHAN ACADEMY, AND THAT'S NOT ALL.
AND YOU'RE EVEN ENTERTAINING REDUCING THE BUDGET NEXT YEAR.
SAMUEL'S LIBRARY IS WORTH WAY MORE TO THIS COMMUNITY THAN ANY BOOK SOME OF YOU TRIED TO BAN, BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE.
THERE'S CRAFTS, TECH CLASSES AND INFORMATIONAL SESSIONS, GEOLOGY CLUBS, DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS CLUBS, MUSIC AND MOVEMENT, HOMESCHOOL HUBS, STORY TIME, BOOK CLUB, CULTURAL PRESENTATIONS AND PERFORMANCES, TEEN CONNECT SCIENCE SCOUTS, AUTHOR PRESENTATIONS, ANIMAL WEBCAMS, MATH WAREHOUSE, PBS KIDS STORY WALK, PARTNERED WITH ROTARY CLUB IN WARREN COUNTY PARKS AND RUSH RECREATIONS.
AND I CAN KEEP GOING, BUT I RAN OUT TIME.
I THINK WE HAVE TIME FOR THE LEASE.
UH, JACKIE MARCELLA, HAPPY CREEK DISTRICT.
UM, ALSO COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR FOR WARREN COUNTY DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE.
SO IN RECENT DISCUSSIONS ABOUT LIBRARY FUNDING, UM, A SUPERVISOR OPTED TO USE A RED SOLO CUP AS A METAPHOR.
THIS APPROACH, WHILE IMAGINATIVE IS NOT JUST PREPOSTEROUS BUT GLARINGLY UNREALISTIC, IT OVERSIMPLIFIES A COMPLEX ISSUE AND FRANKLY SHOWS A CONCERNING MISUNDERSTANDING OF HOW BUDGET PROJECTIONS WORK.
THE LIBRARY RELIES ON CONSISTENT FUNDING, NOT THE ERRATIC NATURE OF A PARTY CUP ANALOGY.
MOREOVER, THE SUGGESTION OF FILLING THE CUP WITH THE DONATIONS FIRST OVERLOOKS THE FACT THAT DONATIONS ROLL IN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
IT'S NOT FEASIBLE NOR WISE TO RELY SOLELY ON THESE UNPREDICTABLE FUNDS AT THE BEGINNING OF A FISCAL PERIOD.
[00:25:02]
I KNOW IN THE PAST THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD WHO'VE STRUGGLED WITH READING.SO I'LL REMIND YOU THAT THE CURRENT MOA TELLS YOU THAT FUNDING CANNOT BE LESS THAN THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
BUT LET'S BE CLEAR, WE ARE NEITHER DUMB NOR BLIND.
WE KNOW THAT YOU CANNOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT THIS YEAR.
YOU SAID IT YOURSELF IN THE WORK SESSION, WHICH I WATCHED BY THE WAY.
I DIDN'T JUST RELY ON THE ROYAL EXAMINER.
UM, WE CANNOT AND WILL NOT ACCEPT OVERSIMPLIFIED AND IMPRACTICAL SOLUTIONS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S NOT REALLY ABOUT THE LIBRARY, IS IT? NOPE.
IT'S ABOUT GROWNUP BULLIES WHO HOLD HATE IN THEIR HEARTS.
FOR ANYONE WHO BELIEVES DIFFERENTLY THAN THEY DO BULLIES, YOU FIND IT PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE FOR A CHILD TO BELIEVE THAT BEING DEAD IS BETTER THAN BEING WHO THEY ARE.
AND THEY HEAR YOU, THEY HEAR YOU WHEN YOU CALL THEM NAMES.
OR WOULD YOU SAY THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO EXIST IN THE WORLD.
THEY KNOW WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING WHEN YOU WANT BOOKS REMOVED BECAUSE THE CONTENT IS L-G-B-T-Q-I-A.
YOU CLAIM TO CARE ABOUT BUDGETS AND MONEY.
HOW ABOUT WE STOP WORRYING ABOUT A BOOK ABOUT A BOY WHO LOVES TO TWIRL OR A HAWAIIAN LEGEND, AND INSTEAD WORRY ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE HOUSES IN THIS COUNTY ARE BEING APPRAISED AT EXPONENTIALLY HIGHER RATES THAN THEY SHOULD BECAUSE YOU WANT TO NICKEL AND DIME THE CITIZENS TO MAKE UP FOR THE DISASTER.
LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO REFERENCE THE PRESS RELEASE FROM THE BOARD TODAY.
AND I MUST STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF INTEGRITY IN YOUR ROLES IF ONE IS ON THE WRONG PATH.
THE HONORABLE ACT IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT AND ADJUST ACCORDINGLY.
HOWEVER, BACKTRACKING WITHOUT ADMISSION OR ADD A CONVENIENCE IS NOT A SIGN OF LEADERSHIP.
YOU'RE HERE TO MAKE AN INFORMED, REALISTIC DECISION FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY.
STOP WORRYING ABOUT BOOKS IN A LIBRARY THAT IS A BELOVED LANDMARK AND INSTEAD WORRYING ABOUT FIXING YOUR APPRAISAL PROBLEM.
I THINK WE'VE GOT TIME FOR ONE MORE.
HELLO, I'M CONNOR ELLA, UH, FORK DISTRICT.
SO RECENTLY I'VE HEARD ABOUT, UH, A METAPHOR THAT WAS MADE IN DURING A WORK SESSION, UH, PREVIOUSLY ABOUT A RED SOLO CUP IN THE FUNDING OF THE LIBRARY.
UM, THIS OVERSIMPLIFIES EVERYTHING LIKE IT'S OVERSIMPLIFYING HOW THE FUNDING WORKS LIKE PREVIOUSLY SAID.
UM, AND ALSO THE FACT THAT YOU WOULD PROPOSE THIS RIGHT AFTER A MOA WAS SIGNED AND AGREED, LIKE HE WAS AGREED UPON AND PUT INTO ACTION IS PERSONALLY INSANE TO ME AND ESPECIALLY BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT IT CAN'T CHANGE UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND FINISH UP THAT THEN.
MR. HENDERSON, KELSEY LAWRENCE.
MY NAME IS KELSEY LAWRENCE AND I LIVE IN THE FORK DISTRICT.
WE GOTTA STOP MEETING LIKE THIS GUY'S.
UM, LAST WEEK'S BOARD OF SUPERVISOR MEETING WAS PROBLEMATIC.
UM, AND I THINK IT'S TIME TO SET THE RECORD.
AND WHAT HAPPENED LAST SUMMER IN FALL WAS SIMPLY NOT A CONTROVERSY.
IT WAS PREMEDITATED AND PLANNED, AND SOMEONE EVEN BROUGHT SNACKS AND BEER TO WAGE A WAR ON OUR LIBRARY AND ITS BOOKS.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE COST OF THIS ATTACK.
DESPITE YOUR POSITIONS IN THESE SEATS, YOU PAID AN AWFUL LOT.
BUT LET'S BE CLEAR, NOTEBOOKS WERE REMOVED FROM THE LIBRARY.
MOREOVER, THIS BOARD SIGNED AN AGREEMENT TO CONTINUE FUNDING THE LIBRARY AT ITS CURRENT RATE UNTIL 2025.
AND LET'S NOT FORGET YOU DID NOT SECURE A CONTROLLING VOTE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD.
YOU REALLY WANNA GO DOWN THIS ROAD AGAIN.
CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT THIS BOARD WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN WE HAVE PRO LIBRARY CANDIDATES ON THE ACTUAL BALLOT CHANGE IS COMING AND IS NEEDED IN THIS COUNTY? NOW LET'S ADDRESS THE REAL ISSUE HERE.
YOU CAN HIDE BEHIND FINANCES, BUT WE ALL KNOW YOUR TRUE GRIPE WITH SAMUELS.
FUNNY ENOUGH, A WOMAN NAMED JENNY JAMESON SUBMITTED MULTIPLE REQUESTS FOR REMOVAL.
AND ODDLY ENOUGH, THEY BEAR DIFFERENT HANDWRITING, I'M GUESSING HERE AND ASSUMING THAT THE GIRL'S HANDWRITING BELONGS TO YOUR WIFE.
HOWEVER, IF IT BELONGS TO YOU, WE SHOULD TALK AFTERWARDS.
[00:30:01]
AND I WILL MAKE A STATEMENT IN THE REAL EXAMINER SAYING THAT THAT HANDWRITING BELONGS TO YOU.UM, THE SECOND PERSON'S HANDWRITING SEEKS TO BAN.
WORM LOVES WORM, WHICH IS A PICTURE BOOK.
UM, AND YOU WANT IT BANNED BECAUSE IT SUPPOSEDLY PROMOTES HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE.
I GUESS YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT WORMS ARE ASEXUAL AND PRODUCE ASEXUALLY.
UM, THE WORM DRESSES UP AS THEY'RE BOTH THE BRIDE AND THE GROOM BECAUSE IT'S NOT A BRIDE OR A GROOM, IT'S JUST A WORM.
UM, IT'S SCIENCE NOT WOKE AGENDAS.
IT'S A BAD LOOK WHEN POLITICIANS WHO SWEAR AN OATH TO THE CONSTITUTION WANT TO THROW OUT THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
AND LOOK, IT'S NOT JUST YOU WHO'S LOSING.
YOUR DELEGATE IS ALSO FAILING AT THIS TOO.
AND THIS KIND OF VIOLATION WILL CAUSE A LAWSUIT THAT WILL COST AT LEAST ANOTHER SOLO CUP OR TWO.
I DON'T THINK WE GOT ENOUGH CUPS.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BUY SOME MORE.
AND IT'S TIME TO STOP THIS CHARADE.
OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES BETTER.
SAMUEL'S LIBRARY IS OPEN TO EVERYONE, AND IT'S MORE THAN JUST A BUDGET ITEM.
IT'S AN INVESTMENT IN OUR FUTURE AND EACH OTHER.
BEING UNABLE OR UNWILLING TO LISTEN OR SIT DOWN WITH THE LIBRARY'S FINANCIAL COMMITTEE IS THE ISSUE.
ASSUMING THE WORST IS THE ISSUE.
WE NEED LEADERS WHO UPHOLD OUR VALUES, PROTECT OUR RIGHTS, AND NOT THOSE WHO SEEK TO UNDERMINE THEM FOR PERSONAL AGENDAS.
LET'S WORK TOGETHER FOR REAL CHANGE AND PROGRESS IN OUR, UH, COUNTY.
AND THAT BRINGS US TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING TIME.
[G. Public Hearing - CUP2023-10-01 - Jordan & Michelle Scheutzow - Chase Lenz - A request for a conditional use permit for a Short-Term Tourist Rental. The property is located at 1296 Reliance Road and identified on tax map 2 as parcel 15. The property is zoned Agricultural (A) and is located in the North River Magisterial District. - Chase Lenz, Zoning Administrator]
HEARING IS, UH, CP 2023 DASH 10 DASH OH ONE JORDAN AND MICHELLE, AND I'M GONNA APOLOGIZE IF I SAY YOUR NAME, UHSO AND MR. LENS.UM, WE BROUGHT MY LAPTOP UP HERE.
THE APPLICANTS ARE REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL FOR THE PROPERTY THEY PURCHASED IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.
THE OWNERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE PROPERTY AVAILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM LODGING FOR VISITORS, SEEKING A COMFORTABLE AND PEACEFUL PLACE TO STAY WHILE ENJOYING THE MOUNTAIN VIEWS, PRIMARILY RESIDING LESS THAN 750 FEET EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ON RELIANCE ROAD.
THE OWNERS WILL MANAGE THE PROPERTY PERSONALLY.
UM, I'LL JUST NOTE THAT IN 2022, THE PROPERTY WAS APPROVED FOR A VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR A NEW WELD TO BE LOCATED ONLY 50 FEET FROM AN ADJACENT DRAIN FIELD.
BUT THERE ARE NO OTHER CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR THE PROPERTY.
AND THE, THERE IS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT PERMIT FOR THIS PROPERTY APPROVING A MAXIMUM OF JUST TWO OCCUPANTS FOR THE DWELLING, AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED THEIR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN.
NOW, THE APPLICANTS ARE REQUESTING A WAIVER TO THE 100 FOOT SETBACK REGULATION AS THE DWELLING ON THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS LOCATED JUST 80 FEET FROM THE DWELLING ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID HEAR THIS ITEM AND DID MOVE IT FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
THEY DID NOTE, UH, EVEN THOUGH THE NEIGHBORS DID, THEY DIDN'T GET A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WASN'T A, A OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST AND THEY WERE LESS CONCERNED GIVEN THAT, UM, IT IS LIMITED TO TWO OCCUPANTS, UM, THAT THERE WOULD BE LIKE ANY BIG PARTIES OR ANYTHING NOISE RELATED.
UM, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THROUGH THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS FOR THIS FIRST ONE AND WE'LL JUST LET YOU KNOW WHAT'S DIFFERENT FOR THE REMAINING CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR THE SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTALS CONDITION NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND VIRGINIA STATEWIDE FIRE PROB FIRE PREVENTION CODE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.
NUMBER TWO, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS SHALL NOT EXCEED THE SYSTEM CAPACITY AS DETERMINED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT PERMIT PER WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTION 180 DASH 56.4 B.
THE CERTIFICATE OF ZONING SHALL ONLY BE ISSUED WITH APPROVED HEALTH DEPARTMENT RECORDS.
NUMBER THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE WELL WATER TESTED ANNUALLY FOR E CO AND COLIFORM BACTERIA, AND A COPY OF THE RESULTS SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING AND HEALTH DEPARTMENTS.
NUMBER FOUR, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE SEPTIC SYSTEM INSPECTED ANNUALLY BY A STATE LICENSED INSPECTOR AND A COPY OF THE RESULTS SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING AND HEALTH DEPARTMENTS.
THE SYSTEM SHALL ALSO BE SERVICED EVERY FIVE YEARS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AND A COPY OF THE SERVICE INVOICE SHALL BE PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
NUMBER FIVE, THE DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS AND HUNTING ON THE PROPERTY BY GUESTS SHALL BE PROHIBITED.
THE USE OF ALTERING VEHICLES BY GUESTS ON THE PROPERTY AND ON STATE AND COUNTY ROAD SHALL BE PROHIBITED.
NUMBER SEVEN, THE OUT OUTDOOR BURNING AND USE OF FIREWORKS BY GUESTS SHALL BE PROHIBITED.
AND NUMBER EIGHT, SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO WAIVE THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT, A WAIVER TO THE REQUIRED SETBACK OF 100 FEET, TWO NEIGHBORING DWELLING SHALL BE GRANTED FOR THE EXISTING 80 FOOT SETBACK TO THE DWELLING EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
I'LL ALSO NOTE THE APPLICANT DID, UH, SEND ME PHOTOS EARLIER TODAY.
THEY DID INSTALL A FENCE ON THE PROPERTY, UH,
[00:35:01]
SEPARATES IT FROM THE, THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.AND THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED AND ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER IS NOTIFIED.
I'M NOT SURE IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE TODAY.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN OR IF THERE WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? GOOD EVENING.
SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO ADD, OTHER THAN WHAT CHASE HAS ALREADY TOLD YOU, THAT WE LIVE JUST THREE HOUSES DOWN FROM THE 1296 PROPERTY.
UH, ALSO ON RELIANCE ROAD, WE BOUGHT THIS SMALL PROPERTY BECAUSE MOST OF OUR FAMILY AND, AND A LOT OF OUR FRIENDS LIVE FAR AWAY.
SO IN ADDITION TO A SHORT TERM RENTAL, WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE OUR FAMILY.
UM, DURING THE TIME THAT OUR FAMILY ISN'T STAYING THERE, THEN WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO USE IT AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
WE'VE TRAVELED OFTEN, WE HAVE FIVE KIDS AND WE ALWAYS STAY IN AIRBNBS BECAUSE WE LOVE THAT IT IS A HOME, IT HAS A KITCHEN.
AND SO WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH AIRBNBS AS WELL AS JUST BEING VESTED IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO COME IN FROM OUTSIDE, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CHANGE OUR FRIENDLY RESIDENTIAL FEEL OF THE RELIANCE ROAD AREA.
AND IF ANYTHING, I THINK IT'LL STAY QUIETER.
YOU KNOW, SOMEONE'S NOT THERE ALL THE TIME.
A LOT OF TIMES THERE WON'T BE SOMEONE THERE AND WE'RE JUST THREE HOUSES DOWN IF ANYONE NEEDS ANYTHING.
AND LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE FIVE KIDS, SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HAVE ANYTHING CRAZY THERE.
WE WANT THIS AREA TO BE SAFE AND SECURE FOR OUR KIDS AS WELL AS EVERYBODY IN OUR AREA.
WE'VE PERSONALLY GONE TO EVERY NEIGHBOR, UH, SURROUNDING THERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE HOUSE RIGHT NEXT DOOR HAD SOLD RIGHT BEFORE WE BOUGHT THIS 1296 PROPERTY.
SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NEW, THEY'RE NEW TO THE STATE, AND WE INTRODUCED OURSELVES.
WE WENT ACROSS THE STREET TO A NEIGHBOR WE DIDN'T PREVIOUSLY KNOW.
WE GAVE EVERYBODY OUR, OUR CONTACT INFORMATIONS.
WE ALSO HAVE CAMERAS TO MONITOR THE PROPERTY REMOTELY AT ALL TIMES TO MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE.
UH, LIKE CHASE SAID, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST QUESTION I WOULD SAY IS IT'S CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR.
WE PUT UP A FENCE SURROUNDING THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, AND THE NEIGHBOR ALSO HAS A FENCE SURROUNDING THEIR BACKYARD AREA.
SO THERE ARE, THEY HAVE A GATE.
THE WHOLE AREA CAN BE CLOSED BY A GATE.
SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T PLAN OR FORESEE ANY PROBLEMS. UM, THAT THE PROPERTY AT 1296 HAS ACTUALLY BEEN A PLACE OF BUSINESS IN WARREN COUNTY FOR A LONG TIME.
IT WAS BUILT AS A POST OFFICE AND A GENERAL STORE.
AND, UH, THE WIFE OF THAT HOUSE THAT'S CLOSE TO IT AT 1330 WORKED AS THE POST MISTRESS AT THAT POST OFFICE AND IT BOASTED ONE GAS PUMP BACK IN ITS DAY.
MORE RECENTLY, IT HOUSED A FLOWER STAND BEFORE IT FELL INTO DISREPAIR.
UH, THE WOMAN WE BOUGHT IT FROM SAW IT, SAW IT FOR WHAT IT WAS WORTH AND MADE IT INTO A RESIDENTIAL HOME.
SO WARREN COUNTY, I KNOW IS TRYING TO PRESERVE PIECES OF HISTORY THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND I THINK ALLOWING A SHORT TERM RENTAL AND ALLOWING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WILL MATCH WITH WHAT WE SEE FOR WARREN COUNTY.
IT WILL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PRESERVING THE HOME AND THE RESIDENTIAL FEEL IN OUR SMALL RELIANCE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE, WE'RE VESTED IN AND WE'RE A PART OF.
DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO.
MR. HENDERSON, HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS, UH, PUBLIC HEARING? NO, MA'AM.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME? SECOND CALL.
THIRD CALL FOR ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
ANY COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RE REQUEST OF JORDAN AND MICHELLE.
SO FOR A SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.
[00:40:01]
AYE.[H. Public Hearing - CUP2023-10-02 - Oleg Li - Chase Lenz - A request for a conditional use permit for a Short-Term Tourist Rental. The property is located at 116 Mossy Rock Way and identified on tax map 24B, section 1, block 20, as parcel 615. The property is zoned Residential-One (R-1) and is located in the Blue Mountain subdivision in the Shenandoah Magisterial District. - Chase Lenz, Zoning Administrator]
PUBLIC HEARING IS CUP 2023 DASH 10 DASH OH TWO OLE LIE MR. LZ, THIS IS ANOTHER SHORT TERM RENTAL.THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL FOR THE PROPERTY PURCHASED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022.
THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE PROPERTY AVAILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM LODGING FOR VISITORS OF THE WARREN COUNTY AREA SEEKING PEACE IN NATURE, PRIMARILY RESIDING IN FALLS CHURCH, VIRGINIA.
THE APPLICANT WILL MANAGE THE PROPERTY PERSONALLY.
UM, THE, THERE IS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT OPERATION PERMIT ON FILE FOR THIS PROPERTY PROVES A MAXIMUM OF EIGHT OCCUPANTS FOR THE FOUR BEDROOM DWELLING.
THEY HAVE PROVIDED THEIR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN.
WE DID RECEIVE COMMENTS FROM THE BLUE MOUNTAIN POA BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
THEY DO RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, THEIR RESPONSE AND ALSO A RESPONSE FROM THE APPLICANT TO THE, THOSE COMMENTS, UH, WERE INCLUDED IN THE MEETING PACKET AND THE DWELLING DOES MEET THE 100 FOOT SETBACK TO NEIGHBORING DWELLINGS.
UH, THE CLOSEST DWELLING IS 230 FEET TO THE SOUTH.
SO IT IS THE STANDARD RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS, UM, WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR THIS AND THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDED AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM DURING THEIR PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER'S NOTIFIED.
BELIEVE I SAW THE APPLICANT HERE AND WE'RE AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? UH, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.
I'M, I LIVE IN FALLS, GEORGE, VIRGINIA.
SO, UH, THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT MY NEIGHBORS AND THE ASSOCIATION HAD IS NOISE.
AND, UH, WE'VE, UH, TRIED TO DO SEVERAL THINGS TO ADDRESS IT.
SO WE'VE INSTALLED VIDEO CAMERAS THAT ARE, UM, VERY HEAVILY RELIANT ON TECHNOLOGY AND ALERTING WHEN, WHEN THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN THE HOUSE, WHEN NOISE IS EXCEEDING THE LIMITS THAT WE HAVE PUT IN.
SO WE'VE INSTALLED A LOT OF, UH, DEVICES OUTSIDE AND INSIDE TO CONTROL THE NOISE.
AND, UH, HOPEFULLY, UH, THAT WOULD ELEVATE, UH, THE BIGGEST CONCERN THE NEIGHBORS HAVE.
UH, THE PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE ANY IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE NEARBY, SO IT'S PRETTY REMOTE.
UH, AND, UH, I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT TO DISTURB THE COMMUNITY.
WE ARE HAPPY TO, UH, BE, UH, FOLLOWING ALL THE LO LOCAL LAWS AND REGULATIONS AND, UH, UM, HOPEFULLY WE WILL, UH, BE HAPPY, HAPPY COEXIST WITH NEIGHBORS AND, UH, LOCAL COMMUNITY.
DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? UM, I ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF YOU NEEDED TO SEE, WE HAVE A LOT OF SOFTWARE.
WE HAVE PRINT SCREENS WHERE WE CAN SEE THE NOISE.
AND WHEN A NOISE OCCURS THAT IS ABOVE A CERTAIN LIMIT, I DO GET AN EMAIL AND ALERT.
I HAVE A, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA SEE THAT, BUT I PRINT THAT YOU CAN GIVE THEM TO MR. HENDERSON.
QUESTIONS FROM AT THIS TIME? OKAY.
MR. HENDERSON, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? UH, YES MA'AM.
GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
I FALL IN SHENANDOAH'S DISTRICT AND I'M REPRESENTING ON, UH, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE BLUE MOUNTAIN PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS, UM, MR. O LEAGUE'S REQUEST IS DISAPPROVED.
HIS REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNED AT ONE 16 MOSSY LANE, MOSSY ROCK LANE LINDON, VIRGINIA.
THIS PROPERTY CAME TO OUR ATTENTION LAST MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND WHEN IT WAS LOUD NOISE, UH, WHEN THERE WAS LOUD NOISE PLAYING MOST OF THE NIGHT THAT COULD BE HEARD BY ANYONE ON THAT SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN.
I LIVE ON THAT SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN.
THE WARREN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WAS CALLED AND ARRIVED, STOPPING THE NOISE.
HOWEVER, THE NEXT NIGHT THE MUSIC WAS BACK AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WAS ONCE AGAIN NOTIFIED.
THAT'S WHEN WE LEARNED THAT THIS PROPERTY WAS OPERATING AS A ROGUE SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
WE TURNED THE ISSUE OVER TO THE COUNTY STAFF WHO BRIEFED MR. LEE ON WARREN COUNTY CODE REQUIREMENTS.
WE WERE TOLD THAT MR. LEE SAID HE WOULD COMPLY.
HOWEVER, HE NEVER STOPPED ADVERTISING THE
[00:45:01]
PROPERTY AND CONTINUED RENTING IT ON A SHORT-TERM BASIS WITHOUT A PERMIT IN VIOLATION OF COUNTY CODE UNTIL MID-OCTOBER.THIS WAS IN JUNE THAT WE WERE NOTIFIED, I BELIEVE THERE WERE SEVERAL NOISE, UH, SEVERAL OTHER NOISE VIOLATIONS DURING THAT PERIOD.
AFTER THE WARREN COUNTY, UH, STAFF HAD CON CONTACTED MR. LEE INFORMING ME, EXCUSE ME, INFORMING HIM OF OUR CUP DISAPPROVAL RECOMMENDATION.
HE CONTACTED THE B-M-P-O-A PRESIDENT, UH, MAKING PROMISES, OFFERING APOLOGIES, EVEN OFFERING A GOODWILL MONETARY DONATION FOR PAST PERFORMANCE FAILURES.
THE BOARD AND WAS, AND REMAINS UNMOVED.
MR. LEE HAS FLAGRANTLY DISREGARDED COUNTY POLICY AND ONLY WORRIED ABOUT THE POA WHEN HE REALIZED HIS PREDICAMENT.
HIS LAST COMMUNICATION TO THE BOARD, UH, B-M-P-O-A BOARD OF DIRECTORS PRESIDENT WAS OCTOBER 19TH, 2023 IN WHICH HE STATED, AND I QUOTE, DEAR JIM, THANK YOU AND THE BOARD FOR RECONSIDERING, WE ARE COMMITTED TO BE COMPLIANT.
THE AIRBNB LISTING HAS BEEN REMOVED.
IN SUMMARY, THIS HAS BEEN A PROBLEMATIC PROB PROPERTY, PROBLEMATIC PROPERTY SINCE IT CAME TO OUR ATTENTION LAST MAY, CAUSING THE BLUE MOUNTAIN PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO FORMULATE ITS RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNTY.
WE REMAIN CONCERNED ABOUT HIS FLAGRANT DISREGARD OF COUNTY POLICY.
AND THE BOARD CONTINUES TO STRONGLY AND UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL OF ANY CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND UNDERSTANDING THE CONCERNS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BLUE MOUNTAIN PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP, MR. HENDERSON? NO MA'AM.
WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SECOND CALL.
ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK THIRD AND FINAL.
MR. LEE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENT TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS? YES.
UM, EVERYTHING THAT GENTLEMAN SAID WAS TRUE.
UM, WE DID, I, IN THE VERY BEGINNING, UH, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT I ACTUALLY NEED A PERMIT.
I WENT TO THE COUNTY WEBSITE, I SEARCHED AND I DID NOT FIND ENOUGH DOCUMENTATION, ENOUGH INFORMATION.
SO WE, I DID POST IT ON, ON UH, AIRBNB AND, AND, UM, STARTED RENTING, UH, THROUGH THE AIRBNB.
AND AT THAT TIME WE DID NOT HAVE ANY EQUIPMENT TO MONITOR THE, THE, UM, THE PEOPLE WHO, UH, WERE LIVING AND, UH, LEASING FROM US.
AND, UH, THAT'S WHY THOSE EVENTS HAVE OCCURRED WITH CHANGED.
AND WE, UM, CHANGED THE REQUIREMENTS.
AND AGAIN, WE'VE INSTALLED A LOT OF, UH, DIFFERENT DEVICES TO MONITOR THE NOISE.
UH, WE, I DID REACH OUT TO THE, UM, THE HOA AND THEN ASKED WHATEVER I CAN DO TO, UM, UH, WHATEVER I CAN DO TO, 'CAUSE WE KNOW WE DID A LOT OF DISTURBANCE.
SO I, I WAS TRYING TO MAKE PEACE WITH THE ASSOCIATION.
AND AGAIN, WE REMOVED THE LISTINGS, UH, NOT, NOT RIGHT AWAY.
'CAUSE AGAIN, UM, ECONOMICALLY WE WERE DIFFICULT TO REMOVE IT RIGHT AWAY.
'CAUSE WE HAVE, WE HAVE, UH, WE'VE HAD FORWARD LISTINGS.
WE, THOSE ARE NOT CANCELABLE AND, UH, WE JUST COULDN'T CANCEL THEM EASILY.
SO WE DID CONTINUE TO, UH, ADVERTISE, UH, JU.
UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE'VE IMPLEMENTED, UH, SEVERAL, UH, TECHNOLOGICAL MONITORING DEVICES AND WE DID NOT HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR ANY COMPLAINTS AFTER THAT AT AT LEAST WE DIDN'T SEE ANY, UH, VIOLATIONS THROUGH THE MON UH, THROUGH OUR, UH, MONITORING DEVICES.
BUT YES, UH, THERE'S EVERYTHING THAT GEMMA SAID IS TRUE.
BUT I BELIEVE WE'VE, UH, ADDRESSED THE PROBLEM AND, UH, HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE SUFFICIENT.
QUESTIONS? UH, WELL, WE WILL, I, I, I HAVE ONE.
IF, UM, IF MR. PATTON IS WILLING TO COME BACK TO THE PULPIT, UM, I'M JUST WONDERING, DOES THE NOISE MONITORING THAT, THAT MR. LEE RAISED THE, THE EQUIPMENT HE BROUGHT INTO THE PICTURE, DOES THAT CHANGE ANYTHING FOR THE, UH, B-M-P-O-A? THE REASON THAT DOESN'T, UM, MR EXCUSE ME JUST A MINUTE.
I'M, I NEED TO CHECK WITH, UM, TO MAKE SURE I HAVEN'T CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE USUALLY, I DON'T, YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE WE CAN
[00:50:01]
HAVE YOU DIRECT THE QUESTIONS OF STAFF MEMBERS.AND, UM, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ONCE YOU CROSS A CERTAIN THRESHOLD, THEY'LL GET A LITTLE NOTIFICATION AND THEY CAN IMMEDIATELY CONTACT THEIR GUESTS TO ADDRESS THE NOISE, HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE NEEDS TO COME UP THERE AND, UH, AND STOP ANY NOISE.
UM, BUT YEAH, WITH THE, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, IT, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THEY CONTINUE TO VIOLATE THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND IT BECOMES REPEAT VIOLATION, UH, THAT WOULD BE GROUNDS FOR REVOCATION OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
IF YOU GUYS, UH, CHOOSE TO APPROVE IT TODAY AND AT THAT PUBLIC HEARING, CHOOSE TO REVOKE IT IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
SO JUST TO ADD TO THAT, SO IF THE NOISE CONTINUES, THEN THE RESIDENTS CAN CONTACT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WITH THE COMPLAINT, IS THAT CORRECT? AND THEN IF THERE'S AN ABUSE OR YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DON'T FIX IT, WE CAN PULL THE CUP AND THEY NO LONGER CAN FUNCTION AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
SO THE NOISE COMPLAINT SHOULD GO TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ENFORCE THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
WE SH AS PLANNING STAFF SHOULD BE NOTIFIED TO MARK THE FILE AND REACH OUT TO THE, UH, OPERATOR OR OWNER TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY STEPS THAT THEY COULD TAKE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE, LIKE INSTALLING NOISE MONITORS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
UM, BUT YEAH, IF, UH, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO WORK WITH THEM AND IT KEEPS HAPPENING, UH, THE VIOLATION OF LOCAL, STATE, OR FEDERAL LAWS IS GROUNDS FOR, UH, REVOCATION OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, I WOULD SEND THEM A, UH, A NOTICE BASICALLY SAYING, LOOK, YOU'VE VIOLATED THE LOCAL NOISE ORDINANCE ON THIS DATE, THIS DATE, AND THIS DATE.
IT'S A REPEATING, YOU KNOW, BEHAVIOR OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND, UM, IT'S GROUNDS FOR REVOCATION.
AND BASICALLY WE WOULD TAKE IT BACK THROUGH A VERY SIMILAR PROCESS LIKE THIS PUBLIC HEARING WHERE, UM, THEY WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WHY THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SHOULDN'T GET REVOKED.
UH, AND THEN YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD ULTIMATELY, AS THE BOARD MAKE A DECISION AND WHETHER OR NOT TO REVOKE IT.
SO WHEN THE MAKE THROUGH REPLACE, UH, THE COMPLAINT TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, IS THAT COMPLAINT GIVEN TO THE PROPERTY OWNER, HOW DO THEY KNOW THAT THAT A COMPLAINT HAS MADE WAS MADE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
I HAVEN'T BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS.
UM, MY PARENTS' DOGS GOT THEM IN TROUBLE ONCE WHEN I WAS A KID, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT WAS A LITTLE EASIER TO RESOLVE.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED A LIST OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
AND SO THEY, THEY COULD CHECK THAT LIST AND SEE THAT IT'S A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
AND THAT LIST SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE OWNER.
YEAH, THAT WOULD BE, SO THAT'S, YES.
YEAH, WE'D, WE'D HAVE THE OWNER'S CONTACT INFORMATION AND I WOULD THINK THE GENERAL, UH, PROPERTY MANAGER, SO THAT'S HOW WE CAN KEEP TRACK OF VIOLATIONS IS BASED, THAT'S WHAT WE, BASED ON THE LOGS, THAT'S WHAT, YEAH.
AND IF WE WERE MADE AWARE OF IT, I WOULD PROBABLY REQUEST, UM, SOMETHING TO ADD TO THE FILE, UH, FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, JUST SO WE COULD KEEP IT ALL DOCUMENTED.
WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT'S IN OUR PROCESS WHEN WE UPDATE THESE ON A MONTHLY BASIS FOR THE COMMISSIONER REVENUE.
MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET THOSE, UH, THAT UPDATED LIST QUESTION FROM, UM, THE TIMELINE OF WHEN YOU WERE MADE AWARE THAT THIS WAS, UM, AN UNSANCTIONED, UM, AIRBNB BEING OPERATED AND THE POINT AT WHICH HE WAS STILL DOING THIS IN OCTOBER, WHEN WAS HE NOTIFIED THAT HE NEEDED TO CEASE AND DESIST? YEAH, SO, UM, I HAD CHECKED MR. BURKES, THE ZONING OFFICER'S RECORDS ON THIS, AND IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION WAS EVER ISSUED.
I BELIEVE MR. LEE CONTACTED THE OFFICE WHILE WE WERE ORIGINALLY UPDATING OUR FORMS AND FEE SCHEDULE AND STUFF.
AND SO BASICALLY WE, UM, SAID, WE'LL, WE'LL NEED TO GET BACK WITH YOU NEXT WEEK WHEN WE HAVE THE, THE FORMS READY.
AND, UM, UM, I IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE PLANNING STAFF DROPPED THE BALL ON THAT AND THE COMMUNICATION, UM, WITH WHEN, WHEN THE, THE FORM WAS, WAS READY TO, UH, BE PROCESSED.
UM, BUT YEAH, UM, IT WAS COMMUNICATED THAT HE WOULD NEED THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WHEN HE FIRST CONTACTED US, UM, TO OPERATE THE PROPERTY.
SO IN ESSENCE THEN THAT'S LETTING HIM KNOW THAT HE, HE NEEDS THAT TO BE ABLE TO BE IN AN OPERATION
[00:55:01]
AT THAT POINT.I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN IDEA.
HE, YOU KNOW, HE UM, MENTIONED THAT HE HAD BOOKINGS AND I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN IDEA, I WOULD THINK A COUPLE OF MONTHS OUT THAT MAYBE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DEALT WITH INSTEAD OF PERPETUATED ON I KNOW WHAT THE TIMELINE WAS.
YEAH, AND I'M, I'M KIND OF, UM, KIND OF OUTSIDE OF THE PICTURE HERE WITH THAT WHOLE CONVERSATION THAT HAPPENED IN, IN JUNE OVER THE SUMMER.
UM, I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW ABOUT ANYTHING UNTIL WE GOT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION LATER IN THE YEAR.
AND, UM, I FOLLOWED UP WITH DAVID AS BEST AS I COULD ON, ON BASICALLY THE STORY.
UM, BUT UH, WHEN WE DID GET THE COMMENTS FROM THE BLUE MOUNTAIN POA BOARD OF DIRECTORS, IT WAS FORWARDED TO THE APPLICANT AND AT THAT TIME HE, HE DID CONFIRM THAT HE HAS HAD REMOVED THE LISTING AND CEASED OPERATIONS PENDING THE APPROVAL OF THE PERMIT.
UH, UH, MADAM CHAIR, I'M STILL NOT REAL CLEAR ON THE, ON THE TIMELINE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO THE, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT HE CONTACTED Y'ALL IN JUNE OR WHEN, WHEN DID HE CONTACT Y'ALL? IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS, UH, AROUND THE JUNE TIMEFRAME.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE WERE UPDATING OUR FORMS, UM OKAY.
WITH THE NEW FEE SCHEDULE AND, AND UPDATING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS.
AND WHEN WAS THE NEXT TIME THAT HE CONTACTED Y'ALL? I CANNOT CONFIRM FOR SURE.
UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS POTENTIALLY SOMETIME IN AUGUST.
UH, IN JUNE WE DID START RE REQUIRING, UH, HEALTH DEPARTMENT COMMENTS TO BE REQUESTED AND SUPPLIED WITH THE APPLICATION.
SO THAT WOULD'VE SET HIM BACK ANOTHER MONTH, UH, OR ABOUT A MONTH, UH, TO GET THOSE COMMENTS FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT THAT COULD HAVE ALSO CAUSED A DELAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. LYNN? UH, I, I DO HAVE ONE OTHER, UM, UH, IT, IT WAS, UH, HE MENTIONED THAT HE WENT ON TO THE, TO THE COUNTY WEBSITE.
WAS THERE SOMETHING GANGED UP WITH THE COUNTY WEBSITE THAT? NO.
UM, SO TYPICALLY WHEN PEOPLE CONTACT OUR DEPARTMENT ABOUT, UH, STARTING A SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL, I GET THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS AND PUT IT ALL IN ONE PLACE FOR THEM BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING TO GO TO THE CODE AND THEN THE FEE SCHEDULE AND THEN THE FORMS. IT'S KIND OF NOT ALL IN ONE PLACE AT ALL.
AND THAT IS ONE THING WE'RE LOOKING TO DO WITH THE NEW WEBSITE.
WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE CONTROL OVER OUR LIKE, ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, UM, PERMISSIONS ON THE WEBSITE SO WE CAN MAKE OUR OWN PAGES AND BUILD THAT OUT.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO BUILD OUT A SHORT TERM RENTAL PAGE.
I THINK WE'D SEE LESS OF THE, UM, THE ONES THAT ARE OPERATING WITHOUT A PERMIT IN VIOLATION, UM, AND HELP WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING TO, UH, OPEN THEM HERE.
THEY, YOU KNOW, HAVE ONE PLACE TO GO TO SEE WHAT ALL THE REQUIREMENTS ARE AND WHAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO IF THEY CHOOSE TO APPLY.
BUT IF YOU, IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING A SHORT TERM RENTAL AND YOU CAN'T FIND IT, A SIMPLE PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL YOU IS STILL A GOOD OPTION.
YOU'D STILL CONTACT OUR OFFICE? IT IS STILL ON THE, ON THE WEBSITE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR OLGA LEAVE FOR SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.
IS THERE A SECOND HEARING? NO SECOND.
THE MOTION FAILS BECAUSE OF ONE SECOND.
IS THERE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION? UH, I MOVE THAT, UH, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DENY THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UH, FOR MR. OLEY AT, UH, FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL AT ONE 16 MOSSY ROCK IN THE SHENANDOAH DISTRICT.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THE ALTERNATIVE SECOND ROLL CALL.
MRS. COOK, THIS IS REVERSE RIGHT NAY, RIGHT, DR.
[01:00:01]
MR. BUTLER? AYE.MR. STANLER AYE MOTION, UM, THE CP IS DENIED AND THE NEXT PUBLIC
[I. Public Hearing - CUP2023-10-03 - Benjamin Huhn - Chase Lenz - A request for a conditional use permit for a Short-Term Tourist Rental. The property is located at 489 Vaught Drive and identified on tax map 15E, section 1, block 1, as parcel 453. The property is zoned Residential-One (R-1) and is located in the Mountain Lake section of the Shenandoah Farms subdivision in the Shenandoah Magisterial District. - Chase Lenz, Zoning Administrator]
HEARING IS CUV 2023 DASH 10 DASH OH THREE.BENJAMIN HAHN MR. LENS FOR ANOTHER SHORT TERM RENTAL, APOLOGIES, I HAD TO ENTER MY 30 CHARACTER PASSWORD.
OKAY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL FOR THE PROPERTY PURCHASED IN JULY OF LAST YEAR.
THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THEIR PROPERTY AVAILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM LODGING FOR VISITORS SEEKING TO EXPLORE THE BEAUTY OF WARREN COUNTY AND THE SHENANDOAH NATIONAL PARK WHEN HE'S NOT USING THE PROPERTY PERSONALLY, PRIMARILY RESIDING IN WASHINGTON, DC THE APPLICANT WILL MANAGE THE PROPERTY PERSONALLY WITH ASSISTANCE FROM A LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER.
UM, THE, THE DWELLING IS APPROVED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR MAXIMUM OF SIX OCCUPANTS FOR THE, THE SEPTIC SYSTEM ON THE PROPERTY.
THEY HAVE PROVIDED A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THE DWELLING DOES MEET THE 100 FOOT SETBACK.
THE NEAREST DWELLING IS APPROXIMATELY 130 FEET TO THE EAST.
IT IS THE STANDARD CONDITIONS, UH, WE AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ARE RECOMMENDING, AND, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED.
I'M ACTUALLY NOT SURE IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? GOOD EVENING.
UM, UH, JUST WANNA SAY I'M VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, ENTERING INTO THE AREA.
UM, I AM ORIGINALLY FROM PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA, SMALL TOWN, A SUBURB AREA.
UM, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO, UM, MOVING OUT HERE EVENTUALLY.
UM, SO MY PLAN RIGHT NOW, I WORK IN THE DC AREA, BUT, UH, EVENTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE SOMEWHERE, SOMEWHERE MORE QUIET.
SO, UM, LOOKING TO HELP OFFSET THE COST OF THE MORTGAGE FOR WHEN I'M NOT USING THE PROPERTY.
UM, UH, BY HAVING A SHORT TERM RENTAL AS AN OPTION.
UM, WHEN I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, I WENT AROUND TO ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE COMFORTABLE, UM, GAVE THEM MY CONTACT INFORMATION, UM, AND LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THE MEASURES THAT I PUT IN PLACE IN PREPARATION FOR THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS, UM, MONITORED APPROPRIATELY.
SO I INSTALLED A NUMBER OF SECURITY CAMERAS AROUND THE PROPERTY, UM, NOISE MONITORING SYSTEMS THAT GIVES ME ALERTS IN REAL TIME IF THERE'S ANY DECIBEL THRESHOLD ABOVE, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED DECIBELS.
UM, AND, UH, UM, JUST PLANNING ON HAVING A FAMILY FRIENDLY HOME, UM, UH, ADVERTISED ON AIRBNB FOR WHEN I'M NOT USING THE PROPERTY, AS I MENTIONED, UM, I HAVE A LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER, MATT WILLIAMS, WHO'S IN THE AREA, UH, HAS A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES THAT HE MANAGES LOCALLY, UM, SHOULD THERE BE ANY CONCERNS.
AND, UH, AND I'M ALSO, YOU KNOW, ONLY AN HOUR AND A HALF DRIVE AWAY, SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? MR. HENDERSON, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP? UH, YES MA'AM.
UH, MICHAEL AND SHERRY KEENAN.
AND IF YOU WOULD JUST GIVE YOUR NAME AND THE DISTRICT YOU LIVE IN.
UH, MICHAEL AND SHERRY KEENAN AND WE RESIGNED IN THE SHENANDOAH DISTRICT.
UH, WE OWN THE HOUSE AT, UH, FOUR 30 WATT DRIVE, WHICH IS EXACTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS RENTAL, THIS GENTLEMAN WHO WANTS TO RENT THIS PROPERTY, AND WE'VE OWNED THAT FOR, IT'LL BE THREE YEARS THIS SUMMER.
UH, MY DAUGHTER, WHO'S A SINGLE MOTHER, RESIDES THAT WITH A 16-YEAR-OLD GIRL AND A GRANDSON.
UM, SHE GOES TO WARREN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL AND SHE HAS ABOUT QUARTER THREE, THREE EIGHTS FOR A MILE WALK TO THE BUS STOP.
WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM A SHORT-TERM RENTAL IS ANYTHING 30 DAYS AND UNDER.
SO WE COULD HAVE 12 TENANTS A YEAR OR WE COULD HAVE SEVEN TENANTS A WEEK OR ANYTHING IN BETWEEN.
AND WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IS
[01:05:01]
WHO'S RENTING THE PROPERTY AND MEAN, DO THEY JUST CALL UP ON A CREDIT CARD AND SAY, I'M GONNA BE THERE AND PAY OVER, OVER, UH, OVER THE PHONE WITH A CREDIT CARD AND THEY SHOW UP.WHO ARE THEY? SOME OF 'EM ARE GOOD PEOPLE.
SOME COULD BE SEX OFFENDERS, SOME COULD BE DRUG ADDICTS, SOME COULD BE CRIMINALS.
IF YOU LIVE IN AN AREA, PEOPLE COMING AND GOING, UH, YOU KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS HERE, YOU DON'T KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS.
THERE'S PEOPLE COMING AND GOING ALL THE TIME.
SO IF YOU LOOK OUT, YOU ARE THE WINDOW AND YOU SEE A STRANGE PERSON WALKING BY, ARE YOU QUESTIONING WHO THEY ARE OR WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? WE WOULD, WE'RE VERY CONCERNED, CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
WHAT ABOUT THE GENTLEMAN HERE EARLIER ABOUT THE LOUD NOISE? I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY, IF YOU GOT A NEIGHBOR THAT'S LOUD, YOU CAN GO OVER AND TALK TO 'EM AND THEY'LL CALM DOWN.
BUT IF YOU GOT NEIGHBOR, YOU GOT SOMEBODY COMING IN ALL THE TIME.
IT COULD BE EVERY WEEK THAT HAPPENS.
AND THEN WE GOTTA COME BACK HERE, FILE A COMPLAINT WITH SOMEBODY.
HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE TO GET THAT THING QUIETER DOWN? I MEAN, IT'S, IT, IT, IT'S A PROBLEM.
UH, WE JUST HAVE LOTS OF TEMPORARY NEIGHBORS.
HOW ABOUT ALL THE TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING AND GOING, UH, WHO'S DOING THE EXTRA MAINTENANCE ON THE ROADS, DISTURBING OTHER PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? UM, WE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, IN A QUIET PLACE.
UH, THE PEOPLE THAT BUY THESE PROPERTIES FOR THESE A UH, THESE RENTAL PROPERTIES, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE BUYING.
THEY'RE BUYING A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AREA, NOT PEOPLE MOVING IN AND OUT ALL THE TIME.
IT'D BE ONE THING IF THEY RENTED BY THE YEAR, BUT NOT BY THE DAY OF THE WEEK OR THE WEEKEND.
UH, WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR PROPERTY VALUES? DO THEY GO UP, GO DAY DOWN, DOWN? DO THEY GET DESTROYED? WE MAKE SURE THE PROPERTY'S TAKEN CARE OF OVER THERE AND WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED, UH, ABOUT THIS.
HAS ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP? NO, MA'AM.
WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE THIS SPEAK AT THIS TIME ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING? YEP.
WE'RE, WE'RE STILL, WE'VE GOT A LONG WAY TO GO WITH PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING? THIRD CALL.
AND I'M SORRY, I KNOW I SAID HAN, BUT I MISPRONOUNCED IT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UM, ADDRESS THE COMMENTS THAT WERE GIVEN? UH, ABSOLUTELY.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN, UH, WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT IN THE POSSIBILITY OF INCREASED TRAFFIC.
UM, I THINK FROM EVERYTHING THAT I'VE RESEARCHED ONLINE ABOUT AIRBNBS AND ALSO WITH, UH, HAVING BEEN A GUEST, UH, YOU KNOW, ON AIRBNB MYSELF, STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT THAT TRAFFIC IS ACTUALLY REDUCED THAN A FULL-TIME FAMILY THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, LIVE THERE AND BE IN AND OUT FOR GROCERIES EVERY DAY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I'M NOT, NOT PLANNING ON RUNNING IT CONSISTENTLY ALL THE TIME.
I AM GONNA BE THERE MYSELF, UM, PART-TIME.
UM, SO I THINK THAT, UH, THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE LESS TRAFFIC IN AND OUT, UM, AS A RESULT OF, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT HAVING FULL-TIME OCCUPANCY AT THE FACILITY.
THE OTHER CONCERN THAT WAS MENTIONED, I THINK WAS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SAFETY CONCERNS, NOT KNOWING THESE INDIVIDUALS.
UM, AIRBNB DOES DO BACKGROUND CHECKS, UH, UH, TO BE ABLE TO RENT HOMES ON AIRBNB, WHICH I THINK IN CONTRAST TO MOST LONG-TERM RENTALS, UM, YOU AREN'T ABLE, IN MOST CASES TO DO A BACKGROUND CHECK UNLESS YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT PROVIDES THAT SERVICE LEGALLY SO THAT YOU CAN DO THAT KIND OF SCREENING.
UM, SO I THINK THAT, THAT IN THIS CASE WOULD BE, UM, AN ADDED LAYER OF SECURITY, UH, WITH, WITH AIRBNB GUESTS THAT, YOU KNOW, LONG TERM RENTAL, UNFORTUNATELY DON'T HAVE THAT.
UM, AND OF COURSE, UH, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, I, I AM HAPPY TO MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE FOR ANY CONCERNS THAT DO COME UP.
I'VE GIVEN THEM, UH, THE, MY NEIGHBORS THE CONTACT INFORMATION AND, AND WE DO HAVE A LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER, BOTH OF WHICH MYSELF AND THE LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER WILL BE NOISE MONITORING THE PROPERTY SAFETY CONCERNS ON THE CAMERAS.
AND WE'LL BE, MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE SHOULD THERE BE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS AT ANY TIME.
ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE A MOTION? DID YOU ASK FOR A MOTION? YES.
I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST BY BENJAMIN HUN FOR
[01:10:01]
A SHORT TERM TOURS RENTAL WITH THE CONDITIONS OF RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.[J. Public Hearing - CUP2023-10-05 - Vesta Property Management (Charlotte Ross & John Mahoney) - Chase Lenz - A request for a conditional use permit for a Short-Term Tourist Rental. The property is located at 115 Greystone Drive and identified on tax map 29A, section 1, as parcel 30A1B. The property is zoned Residential-One (R-1) and is located in the Belmont subdivision in the South River Magisterial District. - Chase Lenz, Zoning Administrator]
IS CUP 2023 DASH 10 DASH OH FIVE VISTA PROPERTY MANAGEMENT FOR, UH, CHARLOTTE ROSS AND JOHN MAHONEY.ON BEHALF OF THE CURRENT OWNERS, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL FOR THE PROPERTY THEY PURCHASED IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR.
THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THEIR PROPERTY AVAILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM LODGING FOR VISITORS OF THE WARREN COUNTY AREA WITH THE OWNERS PRIMARILY RESIDING IN WEST SPRINGFIELD, VIRGINIA.
THE PROPERTY WILL BE MANAGED BY A LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
UM, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED, I BELIEVE, JUST OUTSIDE OF THE BELMONT SUBDIVISION.
YOU DO HAVE TO DRIVE THROUGH IT, UM, TO GET TO THE PROPERTY.
UH, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE AN OPERATION PERMIT APPROVING A MAXIMUM OF EIGHT OCCUPANTS FOR THE DWELLING, AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED THEIR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN.
UH, THE DWELLING DOES MEET THE MINIMUM SETBACK REQUIRED FROM ALL NEIGHBORING RESIDENCES.
THE NEAREST DWELLING IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 295 FEET TO THE NORTH AND IT IS THE STANDARD CONDITIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
JASON, PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED AND THE APPLICANT AND THE OWNER OR UH, ARE HERE THIS EVENING IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? HI, MY NAME IS MANDY PLUM.
UM, I'M THE PROP LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER FOR, UM, THE MAHONEYS.
UM, I BELIEVE THE ONLY CONCERN WE HAD AT OUR LAST MEETING WAS SOME PARKING.
UM, I'VE PROVIDED SOME PICTURES TO CHASE AND MATT, UM, SHOWING THAT WE'VE PUT UP NO PARKING SIGNS WHERE THERE WAS AN AREA OF CONCERN, UM, AND ALSO SHOWING THAT WE DO HAVE PARKING AT THE BASE OF THE HILL AS WELL.
NOW, UM, THAT WILL FIT ANYWHERE FROM THREE TO FOUR VEHICLES, WHICH WOULD HONESTLY BE ALL THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED THERE ANYWAY.
AND THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE DRIVEWAY THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
UM, SO WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE IN MAKING SURE THAT WE JUST ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS, UM, FOR THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
BUT IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER THOSE AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT? MR. HENDERSON? HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO, MA'AM.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING? SECOND CALL.
ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? THIRD AND FINAL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST OF VESTA PROPERTY MANAGEMENT FOR CHARLOTTE ROSS AND JOHN MALONEY FOR THE SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.
[K. Public Hearing - Z2023-11-01 - Public Utility Distribution Facilities - Warren County Planning Staff - Chase Lenz - A request to amend Chapter 180 of the Warren County Code to amend §180-8C Definitions to replace the defined term “Public Utility Poles, Lines, Transformers” with a new “Public Utility Distribution Facilities” term and definition and to amend §180-10E Accessory Uses to replace "public utility poles, lines, transformers, pipes, meters and other facilities necessary to the provision of public utility services within the County" with new "public utility distribution facility" term. - Chase Lenz, Zoning Administrator]
HEARING Z 23 DASH 11 DASH OH ONE PUBLIC UTILITY DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES.IS THIS MR. LINZ OR MR. WENDLER? MR. LIN.
WARREN COUNTY PLANNING STAFF BY THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS RECOMMENDING OR IS REQUESTING TO AMEND THE WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTION 180 DASH EIGHT C DEFINITIONS TO REPLACE THE DEFINED TERM PUBLIC UTILITY POLES, LINES, TRANSFORMERS, WITH A NEW PUBLIC UTILITY DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES TERM IN DEFINITION, AND TO AMEND SECTION 180 DASH 10 E ACCESSORY USES TO REPLACE PUBLIC UTILITY POLES, LINES, TRANSFORMERS, PIPES, METERS, AND OTHER FACILITIES NECESSARY TO THE PROVISION OF PUBLIC UTILITY SERVICES WITHIN THE COUNTY WITH THE NEW PUBLIC UTILITY DISTRIBUTION FACILITY.
TERM PLANNING STAFF IDENTIFIED THE EXISTING DEFINED TERM AS A SOURCE OF AMBIGUITY WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND WORK WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO PROPOSE A MORE GENERALIZED TERM, AN INCLUSIVE DEFINITION THROUGH THIS ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT.
PURPOSE OF THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT IS TO UPDATE OUTDATED, AM AMBIGUOUS TERMINOLOGY AND ANY PUBLIC UTILITY MEETING.
[01:15:01]
THE NEW DEFINITION FOR PUBLIC UTILITY DISTRIBUTION FACILITY WILL CONTINUE TO, TO BE PERMITTED AS A MATTER OF RIGHT IN ALL ZONING DISTRICTS AS STATED UNDER CODE SECTION 180 DASH 10 E.AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID MOVE THIS FORWARD, UH, WITH A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. LENS? OKAY, MR. HENDERSON, DID ANYONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? NO MA'AM.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING? SECOND CALL.
ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? THIRD AND FINAL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? FINDING THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND IS GOOD ZONING PRACTICE.
THE BOARD IS SUPERVISOR'S APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT.
[L. Public Hearing - CUP2023-10-04 - U-Star Transportation, Inc. - Matt Wendling - A request for a conditional use permit for a Motor Freight Terminal. The property is located at 0 Rockland Road and is identified on tax map 12A, section 1, block 2, as parcel 18A. The property is zoned Industrial (I) and located adjacent to the Kelley Industrial Park in the Security Land Company subdivision in the North River Magisterial District. - Matt Wendling, Planning Director]
CUP 2023 DASH 10 DASH OH FOUR USTAR TRANSPORTATION INCORPORATED.OKAY, THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED AT ROCKLAND ROAD IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP.
UH, 12 A DASH ONE DASH TWO AS PARCEL 18 A.
IT'S LOCATED IN NORTH RIVER, UH, MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT, UH, IN THE SUBDIVISION OF SECURITY LAND COMPANY AND, UM, PROPERTY IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL AND IS 2.07 ACRES.
UH, GREENWAY ENGINEERING HAS SUBMITTED THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT FOR A MOTOR FREIGHT TERMINAL, UH, TO PARK TRACTOR TRAILERS WITH BOTH TRACTOR TRAILERS AND FREIGHT TRAILERS AND WHAT THEY'VE IDENTIFIED AS 29 SPACES.
THEY'VE SUBMITTED A CONCEPTUAL ILLUSTRATED PLAN, WHICH THERE ARE NO BUILDINGS OR FACILITY STRUCTURES ON THE SITE.
UH, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT REQUIRE PUBLIC SEWER AND WATER, BUT WILL NEED EROSION SEDIMENT AND STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN PER THE COUNTY BUILDING.
OFFICIAL OPAQUE FENCING AND LANDSCAPING ARE PROPOSED FOR SCREENING AND BUFFERING ALONG ROCKLAND ROAD IN THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
UH, STAFF HAS RECEIVED, UH, AN EMAIL FROM VDOT ON NOVEMBER 30TH, UH, RELATING TO THEIR REVIEW OF THE CONCEPT PLAN.
THEY HAVE APPROVED THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE CONCEPT PLAN WITH CHANGES MADE TO THE FENCING LOCATION FROM THE ORIGINAL PLAN TO ACQUIRE THAT APPROPRIATE LINE OF SIGHT ALONG ROCKLAND ROAD.
UM, THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MOVED THIS FORWARD WITH, UH, SOME DISCUSSION REGARDING, UH, A REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT TO UTILIZE, UH, GRAVEL 21 A OR 21 B OR OR POTENTIALLY ASPHALT ROAD MILLINGS, UH, FOR THE, UH, SURFACING OF THE AREA.
UM, THEY JUST HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT DUST AND SOME OF THE, UH, AND RUNOFF AND WHATNOT.
UH, SO THEY DID AMEND THE CONDITIONS OF THE, UH, UH, PERMIT.
I WILL, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO READ THE CONDITIONS AFTER I READ A, IN PART A LETTER WE RECEIVED AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MOVED THIS FORWARD FROM THE ENGINEER MR. UH, ZACHARY JUDY, UH, PROJECT ENG, PROJECT MANAGER FOR GREENWAY ENGINEERING.
HE, UM, HE ADDRESSES, UH, SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS, UH, RELATING TO GRAVEL PARKING AND THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, AND HE, HE, UH, BASICALLY IDENTIFIES THE TYPE OF, UH, UH, GRAVEL THAT THEY WOULD RECOMMEND.
THEY ALSO, UH, REQUEST TO PROPO.
UH, THEY PROPOSE, UH, THAT A PERFORMANCE BOND BE HELD IN PLACE FOR THREE YEARS WHILE DETERMINING IF A HARD SURFACE WILL BE NEEDED.
ONCE THE TRACTOR TRAILER PARKING LOT HAS BEEN IN OPERATION FOR THREE YEARS, A BOND, THE BOND WOULD BE RELEASED IF ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE IS NOT REQUIRED.
OKAY, SO THAT'S, UH, A LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED AFTER THE PLAINTIFF COMMISSION MOVED THIS FORWARD WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
UH, NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.
NUMBER TWO, A FORMAL SITE PLAN SHALL BE PREPARED AND APPROVED BY THE WARREN COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF THE BUILDING PERMIT SHOWING PARKING, LANDSCAPING, SCREENING, FENCING, OUTDOOR LIGHTING, AND OTHER APPLICABLE ZONING REQUIREMENTS ALL OUT.
[01:20:01]
THREE, ALL OUTDOOR LIGHTING FIXTURES SHALL CONFORM TO SECTION 180 49 0.2 OF THE WARREN COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE.NUMBER FOUR, THE SITE SHALL COMPLY WITH SECTION 180 4, 9 0.1 OF WARREN COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE REGARDING LANDSCAPING AND MEET THE FULL SCREENING REQUIREMENTS OF 180 18.
NUMBER FIVE, THE PARKING AREA SHALL BE COVERED WITH MATERIAL APPROVED BY THE PLANNING STAFF DURING THE SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS.
AND NUMBER SIX, THE AMENDED CONDITION.
THE PARKING AREA SHALL BE HARD SURFACED WITHIN A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS TO MEET THE COUNTY CODE REQUIREMENTS AND BE ISSUED A PERFORMANCE BOND FOR THE AMOUNT TO COVER THE COST OF PAVING ESTIMATED BY THE THIRD PARTY ENGINEER AND AGREED UPON BY THE COUNTY.
UH, THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS ARE NOTIFIED THE APPLICANT, UH, GREENLAKE ENGINEERING, THEIR ENGINEER AND UH, THEIR PLANNER ARE HERE TODAY.
AND I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR AND CHAIR MEMBERS.
HOW ARE YOU DOING? UM, SO WE HAVE BEEN BACK AND FORTH A LITTLE BIT WITH THE YOUTH STAR IN THE PARKING ASPHALT VERSUS GRAVEL PROS AND CONS.
UM, WE HAVE DEFINITELY LOOKED AT BOTH POSSIBILITIES AND WE WANT TO DO WHATEVER IS BEST FOR THE COUNTY, MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET THE, THE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, WE, ZACH AND I DID PREPARE A, A LETTER THAT OUTLINES THE BENEFITS OF PROVIDING THE STONE AND HOW IT WILL HELP WITH RUNOFF AND EROSION.
UH, WE REALLY JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YOU ALL HAD ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE COULD ANSWER FOR YOU REGARDING THAT WITH OUR REQUEST TO CHANGE CONDITION SIX, MODIFY IT JUST A LITTLE BIT COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAD AT PLANNING COMMISSION.
QUESTIONS, UM, ABOUT THE PARKING OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME.
MR. HENDERSON, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP? NO MA'AM.
ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SECOND CALL.
ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? THIRD AND FINAL.
UM, REGARDING THE, UM, THE SURFACE, WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR PACKET, IF WE VOTE THAT CAN, IF THERE BECOMES ISSUES WITH IT IN THE FUTURE, THE USE, UH, CONDITIONAL USE WILL COVER THE CHANGE IN SURFACE.
UH, RIGHT NOW THE, WHAT WE HAVE IS A HARD SURFACING REQUIREMENT.
THE HARD SURFACING REQUIREMENT, UH, WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY ASPHALT.
UH, THAT'S WHAT THAT WOULD COVER.
UH, IT'S WHAT WE HAVE, UH, IDENTIFIED IN OUR, OUR CODE.
UM, WHAT WE HAVE SEEN, AND I'LL JUST MENTION THIS WITH OTHER APPLICATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD COME THROUGH, IS, UM, WE'VE GIVEN THEM ADEQUATE TIME SOME TIME TO BE ABLE TO, UH, GET THE MONEY TOGETHER TO ASPHALT THEIR, THEIR PARKING AREAS.
UH, THERE'S A NUMBER OF, UH, INDUSTRIAL LOTS THAT THEY ARE PAVED FOR THEIR WORKERS PARKING.
UM, BUT THEIR AREAS WHERE THEY PAY PARK, THE TRACTOR TRAILERS ARE TYPICALLY GRAVEL AND THEY TREAT THEM PRETTY MUCH ON A REGULAR BASIS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT DEGRADING OVER TIME.
UM, AND I'VE SPOKEN TO A FEW OF THE PEOPLE WE, UH, HAVE A MOTOR FREIGHT TERMINAL AT, AT KELLY COURT, UH, EXCUSE ME, WINTER'S COURT.
AND, UM, BASICALLY IT'S A LOT, APPARENTLY A LOT EASIER ON THE VEHICLES THEMSELVES.
UM, AND IT ALSO ALLOWS THE PROPERTY OWNERS THE, UM, TO MORE EASILY, UH, BRING IN GRAVEL AND JUST FIX IT QUICKER.
WHEREAS WE'RE VERSUS, UH, AN AS ASPHALT, YOU KNOW, IT'S TYPICALLY SEASONAL WHERE YOU CAN HAVE THAT DONE AND UM, ONCE ASPHALT BREAKS DOWN, IT TYPICALLY IS MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE TO, TO REPAIR.
UM, AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, UM, IT WOULD GIVE THE APPLICANT A TWO YEAR TIME PERIOD AT THIS TIME.
AND, UH, AT THAT TIME WE WILL REQUEST, UH, PERFORMANCE
[01:25:01]
BOND BE ISSUED, UM, TO COVER THE COST OF THE PAVING.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I CLOSE? YEAH, I, I HAVE UH, TWO QUESTIONS.
SO FOR THE, UM, REQUIRE THE HARD SURFACE REQUIREMENT, IS THAT DRIVEN, DRIVEN BY CODE OR ZONING? YES.
THE WAY IT'S WORDED, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S WORDED IN OUR CODE, YES.
AND SECONDLY, UM, WITH THE, THE PERFORMANCE BOND, YOU KNOW, GIVING THEM THREE YEARS, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN, AND THIS IS NEW TO A NEW PROCESS WITH THE BONDS, AT WHAT POINT DO WE ESTIMATE WHAT THE BOND COSTS WILL BE? I THINK IN, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, AT THAT TWO YEAR TIME PERIOD, THE ANNIVERSARY OF THAT TWO YEAR TIME PERIOD, THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD REQUEST THE BOND AND AT WHAT IT WOULD COST AT THAT TIME.
UH, AND WE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO ADD ANOTHER 20%, 20 TO 50% ONTO THAT JUST TO COVER IT IN CASE THEY DID NOT DO IT WITHIN THAT, WITHIN A A, A SUFFICIENT TIME PERIOD, I THINK WE WOULD PROBABLY ASSESS IT AND GIVE THEM ANOTHER YEAR POSSIBLY.
UH, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT WITH THAT, AT THAT, AT THAT TIME.
SO IT WOULD BE WHEN WE GET CLOSER TO THAT.
SECOND YEAR IS WHEN THAT'S CORRECT.
WE GO BACK AND DETERMINE HOW MUCH THE, THE BOND WOULD BE, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND STA UH, UH, WE WOULD HOPE THAT, UH, YOUR EROSION SEDIMENT AND STORM WATER WILL BE, WOULD BE COMPLETED BY THAT TIME AND UM, SO ALL THOSE PERMITS WOULD BE ISSUED.
SO, UM, 'CAUSE THAT DOES TAKE SOME TIME TO GET DONE.
MAD CHAIR, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S CONFUSION, BUT THE POINT OF THE PERFORMANCE BOND IS TO MAKE SURE IT'S PAID IN TWO YEARS.
SO YOU WOULD FIGURE OUT WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO COST SOON AND THEY WOULD POST THE BOND SOON AND THEN THE MONEY WOULD BE THERE WITH A THIRD PARTY INSURANCE COMPANY TO MAKE SURE IT WAS PAVED.
SO IF I'M SAYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM MATT, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK MATT WAS TALKING ABOUT 20% ADDED, YOU KNOW, IF YOU FIGURED OUT WHAT THE PRESENT COST OF YEAH, YEAH.
JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IN THE PROCESS THAT ESTIMATE COMES UP WITH.
SO I DON'T BELIEVE PUT UP HERE.
AND I WAS GONNA GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO, TO READDRESS, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN IS, UM, YOU KNOW, GRAVEL AND IF IT GETS IN MUDDY THAT, YOU KNOW, DRAGGING OUT ON THE, ON THE ROAD.
BUT YES SIR, IF YOU WANTED TO ADD COMMENTS TO OUR QUESTIONS.
UM, SO MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE INTENT OF CONDITION SIX IS EXACTLY AS YOUR ATTORNEY OUTLINED, THAT, UM, THE PERFORMANCE BOND WOULD NEED TO BE POSTED PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF CONSTRUCTION AND ISSUANCE OF A LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT WOULD BE MY ANTICIPATION FOR THAT SITUATION.
UM, OUR ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL IS THAT THE, A PERFORMANCE BOND BE ISSUED FOR THE SAME COST AND IT BE HELD FOR A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS RATHER THAN TWO TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE TIME TO SHOW THAT THERE IS NO ISSUES WITH THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE GRAVEL LOT.
UM, SHOULD THERE, UH, BE COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBOR CONCERNING DUST, OBVIOUSLY THERE SHOULD BE ADEQUATE TIME FOR US TO HAVE A COUPLE DRY SUMMERS AND SEE WHAT THE PERFORMANCE IS.
UM, AS FAR AS THE MUD TRACKING ISSUES, ANY BASE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE SPECIFIED TO SUPPORT THESE TRUCKS WOULD BE OF A LIMESTONE AGGREGATE.
UM, SO THE POTENTIAL FOR ANY MUD CLAY SILT TO BE DRUG OUT ON THE PUBLIC ROAD IS NEGLIGIBLE IN MY OPINION.
UM, I KNOW THE LETTER WE ISSUED TO MATT WAS A LITTLE TECHNICAL SOUNDING, BUT OVERALL GRAVEL IS ADVANTAGEOUS TO STORM WATER RUNOFF BECAUSE IT HELPS SLOW THE WATER AS IT LEAVES THE SURFACE AS OPPOSED TO PAVEMENT.
SO FROM THE STORM WATER STANDPOINT, IT IS A BENEFIT TO THE LOCAL ENVIRONMENT.
UM, AND I THINK THAT OUR ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL TO CONDITION SIX WILL BE ADEQUATE TO COVER ANY LIABILITY TO THE COUNTY OR, UH, PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY.
ALSO, I THINK IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THIS IS A PRIVATE ACCESS PARKING LOT.
IT WILL NOT BE LIKE A LOCAL RETAIL PARKING LOT WHERE ANYBODY CAN JUST PULL IN OFF THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
UM, SO THERE IS VERY LITTLE THREAT TO, UM, PUBLIC VEHICLES COMING IN OR OUT SHOULD THERE BE ANY RUNNING.
UM, AND THE ONLY, THE MAIN THREAT WOULD BE TO OUR CLIENT'S VEHICLES THAT ARE UTILIZING THE SURFACE.
SO HE'S GONNA MAINTAIN IT AS MATT MENTIONED.
[01:30:01]
PROVIDES FOR CHEAPER MAINTENANCE.ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS GENTLEMAN? I JUST NEED CLARIFICATION.
SO LOOKING AT OUR, OUR SHEET RIGHT NOW, OUR COVER SHEET, IT DID THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
NUMBER SIX SAYS THAT PARKING AREAS SHALL BE HARD SURFACE WITHIN A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS AND MEETS THE COUNTY CODE REQUIREMENTS, ET CETERA.
SO WHAT I JUST HEARD IS THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A THREE YEAR PERIOD TO EVALUATE THE AREA IF, IF HARD SURFACING IS ADEQUATE OR NOT.
IF I, IF I COULD SAY THAT CORRECTLY NOW, IF AFTER THE THREE YEARS, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING THE BOND AND EVERYTHING THAT, HMM.
GRAVEL, THERE ARE THE ALTERNATIVE TO HEART SURFACE.
SO IF, IF AFTER THE THREE YEARS AND IT, YOU KNOW, UH, IT DEEMS THAT THE GRAVEL IS A, IS A SUITABLE SOLUTION AND I JUST HEARD THAT PER CODE, IT'S GOTTA BE HARD SURFACED AND THAT THREE YEAR, WILL THE APPLICANT HAVE TO COME BACK AND HAVE THE C UH, THE CUP REVISED OR CAN'T? OR SHOULD WE CHANGE THIS CONDITION AS IT'S WRITTEN BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION? UM, IT WOULD NEED TO BE REVISED, UH, AFTER THREE YEARS IF, IF YOU CHOSE TO CHANGE THIS CONDITION AT THIS TIME.
UH, AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REVISED AS A MODIFICATION TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UH, TWO YEARS NOW.
YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE HARD SURFACING IF IT MET THE REQUIREMENTS.
SO GOING FORWARD, MM-HMM,
OR DO WE CHANGE SOME LANGUAGE HERE BEFORE WE MAKE THE MOTION? LIKE SAYING I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THAT THE CUP, UM, WITH THIS, WITH THIS CHANGE IN THE MOTION WE'RE, UH, WE'LL BE EVALUATED IN THREE YEARS IF IT NEEDS TO BE HER SURFACED OR GRAVELED OR SOMETHING.
I I'M JUST, SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM THREE YEARS TO COMPLY WITH THE CURRENT COUNTY CODE MM-HMM.
YOU THEN SHOULD CHANGE YOUR COUNTY CODE TO NOT REQUIRE ASPHALT BECAUSE FROM THE APPLICANT IS, IS CORRECT.
CITY HARRISONBURG CHARGES A FEE FOR ASPHALT DOWN.
ASPHALT IS NOT THE GOLD ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARD, BUT IT DOES HAVE OTHER BENEFITS.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD GIVE THEM THE THREE YEARS IF YOU WANTED TO, AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AGAIN, WHICH I'M, I'M GUESSING THE ASPHALT IS VERY EXPENSIVE.
SO THEY'RE PROBABLY WILLING TO DO THAT.
AND, UM, AND THEN THE BOARD WOULD DECIDE AT THAT TIME WHAT TO DO.
UM, BUT AGAIN, YOU DO HAVE A COUNTY CODE THAT SAYS ASPHALT, SO YOU'D NEED TO CHANGE THAT AS WELL IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT.
IF, IF, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, YOU COULD, UH, MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CHANGING CONDITION SIX TO THREE YEARS.
AND THEN I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT NOT TO WAIT FOR THE THREE YEARS BEING UP FIRST BECAUSE THAT WOULD TRIGGER THE BOND.
THEY'D WANNA WAIT FOR TWO YEARS AND A FEW MONTHS TO START THAT PROCESS IF THEY FELT THAT THEY COULD MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
IF I COULD CLARIFY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, WHAT YOU WERE SEEMED TO BE INDICATING WAS WE NEED A FEW YEARS TO SEE HOW THE GRAVEL PERFORMS. WHAT I GOT FROM THAT WAS MAYBE IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE PAVED IF YOU COULD COME BACK.
THAT DOESN'T MATCH UP WITH WHAT'S HERE.
SO I'M MISSING SOMETHING AND I'M SORRY, I, I DON'T BELIEVE, UH, MR. JUDY IDENTIFIED HIMSELF AND WHO HE WORKED FOR.
SO IF YOU COULD JUST FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
UH, MY NAME IS ZACHARY JUDY WITH GREENWAY ENGINEERING.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER.
UM, OUR INTENT WAS TO GIVE THE COUNTY ADEQUATE TIME TO SEE THAT THE GRAVEL PARKING SURFACE WILL OPERATE AND BE, UH, PERFECTLY FUNCTIONABLE AND NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF IMPACT TO THE COUNTY ITSELF OR THE PUBLIC.
SO THE IDEA BEING MAYBE THAT AT THE END OF THE THREE YEARS, THE COUNTY WOULD BE ABLE TO SAY, I GUESS WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE IT HARD SURFACED.
IS THAT, AND DOES THAT, IS THAT PICTURE BEING PAINTED IN THIS? YEAH, BASICALLY THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE SAYING I I THINK THE OTHER POINT THAT, UH, MR. HAM IS MAKING IS THAT MAYBE WE EVALUATE
[01:35:01]
OUR CODE FOR HARD SURFACING FOR SPECIFIC CONDITIONS LIKE THIS.THE WAY THIS READS, THE WAY THIS READS, IF WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, THEN WITHIN TWO YEARS HAS GOTTA BE PAVED.
AND WITH OUR INITIAL SUBMISSION, WE HAD INDICATED THAT WE WERE REQUESTING A WAIVER TO THIS SPECIFIC ORDINANCE, WHICH I BELIEVE IT MAY BE WITHIN THE BOARD'S POWER TO GRANT A WAIVER TO A SPECIFIC ORDINANCE IN THIS SITUATION.
WELL, MAYBE, BUT NOT AT THIS MOMENT.
I MEAN, THIS, THIS IS VERY RIGID WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US.
AND I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT TIME TO SEE DOES, IS THIS REALLY NECESSARY OR NOT? NO.
AND NOT IF THAT'S PRETTY SENSIBLE.
UM, THE QUESTION IS WHAT YOUR PLAN IS IF WE HAVE A PLAN.
THIS SAYS IF WE APPROVE THIS NOW, THAT'S GOTTA BE PAVED IN TWO YEARS.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT
OKAY, WELL NOW WHETHER THAT TRANSLATED OR NOT, UM, NO, NO.
NOW IF, IF WE APPROVE WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US NOW, THEN THAT THING'S GOTTA BE PAVED WITHIN TWO YEARS AND I DON'T, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE YOU'RE, YOU'RE WANTING, SO I THINK WE NEED TO TAP THE BRAKES HERE
SO WELL WE CAN MAKE CHAIR YES.
CAN I, I THINK WHAT THE APPLICANT, AND YOU CAN TELL ME IF YOU'VE FOUND MISCHARACTERIZING, IS THAT HE WANTS THIS TO BE THREE YEARS THEN WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT YES, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE CONDITION WOULD REQUIRE.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PAVED WITHIN THREE YEARS AND THEN THE APPLICANT WOULD APPLY FOR A MODIFICATION OF THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UH, AND PRESENT EVIDENCE AT THAT TIME.
IF, IF IT EXISTED THAT THE GRAVEL WAS WORKING, IT WASN'T IRRITATING, THE NEIGHBORS WASN'T MAKING A MESS, IT WAS ENVIRONMENTALLY BETTER.
UM, AND THEN ASK THAT THE BOARD MOD BASICALLY DELETE CONDITION SIX, WHICH WOULD ALSO NEED TO COME WITH A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE COUNTY'S CODE, WHICH I UNDERSTAND FROM, FROM, UH, MR. WENDLING CURRENTLY DOES REQUIRE ASPHALT.
SO YOU'D HAVE TO AMEND BOTH OF THOSE THINGS.
SO IN TERMS OF, OF WHAT YOU COULD DO TONIGHT, IF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN POTENTIALLY REVISITING THIS IN THE FUTURE AND POTENTIALLY ALLOWING IT TO BE GRAVEL, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU CHANGE THAT TO THE THREE YEARS AND THEN AT THE TWO YEAR MARK, THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, GOT BACK WITH COUNTY STAFF, MAYBE A, A STUDY WAS DONE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO ALWAYS REQUIRE ASPHALT IN THE COUNTY AND, AND THOSE PROS AND CONS TO THAT AND THE COUNTY SUPERVISORS AT THAT TIME WOULD MAKE THAT DECISION.
THAT WAS A LOT THAT, THAT, UH, SOUNDS LIKE A SIMPLE SOLUTION MOVING FORWARD.
IT WASN'T EXACTLY OUR INTENT WITH OUR PROPOSED REVISION TO CONDITION SIX, BUT THAT WOULD BE VERY ACCEPTABLE TO OUR CLIENT.
UM, I WOULD PUT FORWARD THOUGH THAT IT'S EASIER TO PROVE THE NEGATIVE THAN THE POSITIVE IN THIS SITUATION.
SO COMING UP WITH A REPORT THAT PROVES THE POSITIVE, I MEAN, I GUESS WE COULD GATHER LETTERS FROM THE NEIGHBOR SAYING THEY HAVEN'T HAD ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS.
UM, BUT I WOULD LOOK FOR THERE NOT TO HAVE BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS AFTER THE ELAPSE OF THE TWO YEARS OR ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS BROUGHT FORWARD.
AND THEN WE COULD PROCEED EXACTLY TO SEE OUTLINE.
BUT, UM, JUST SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE, YOU'RE WILLING TO JUST GET THIS ROLLING NOW THAT YOU PREFER THE THREE YEARS AND THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE USE OF IT OVER THIS TIME AND THEN IT'S YOUR, YOUR HOPE THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT IT'S NOT NEEDED AND THEN YOU'D GO THROUGH ANOTHER PROCESS TO TRY TO GET THE COUNTY TO, TO WAIT IT.
BUT YOU'D RATHER THAT'S ALL, UH, YES.
THAT WOULD, SINCE YOU HAVE THE USE PRESENTLY IN THE NEXT TWO, THREE YEARS? YES SIR.
UM, AND THE THREE YEARS WAS FOR THE COUNTY'S BENEFIT, NOT NECESSARILY FOR OUR CLIENT'S BENEFIT, THAT WAS TO PROVIDE EVEN MORE TIME THAN THE TWO YEARS TO ALLOW NEGATIVE EFFECTS TO COME TO THE SURFACE.
UM, THE TWO YEARS WOULD BE PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE TO US.
WE JUST, WHEN WE PROPOSED THE AMENDMENT, WE STRETCHED IT OUT TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE TIME FOR THOSE NEGATIVE EFFECTS TO BECOME APPARENT.
AND COUNTY STAFF TYPICALLY REVIEWS THESE ANNUALLY AS BEST WE CAN.
AND IF WE'RE OVER IN THAT AREA, THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE'LL BE AWARE OF.
IF THERE IS SOME IMPACT TO THE PUBLIC ROAD, WHICH IS THE PRINCIPLE, I THINK ONE OF THE BIG PRINCIPLE CONCERNS, UM, WE'LL CERTAINLY BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT WITH, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THEN THEIR, THEIR ENGINEER AT THE TIME.
I I THOUGHT OF A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS WHILE LISTENING.
UM, IS THERE GONNA BE FUEL STORAGE HERE? NO, THAT IS NOT THE INTENT OF OUR CLIENT.
'CAUSE I WAS WONDERING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE SPILLAGE THERE AND OIL LEAKS AND SO FORTH.
I MEAN NO, THAT IS NOT PART OF OUR PROPOSED USE AT THIS TIME.
AND UM, FOR COMMERCIAL FUEL STORAGE LIKE THAT, THERE'S ADDITIONAL PERMITTING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED THAT HAS NOT BEEN I HAD NERD, SO I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION.
AND THEN THE OTHER YOU MENTIONED, UM, DRY WEATHER AND, AND DUST.
[01:40:01]
DO YOU PUT DUST CONTROL DOWN? UM, THAT IS NOT PART OF THE MAINTENANCE PLAN.WE WOULD ISSUE FOR THIS ONCE WE ACTUALLY GET A DESIGN COMPLETED.
UM, THAT CERTAINLY COULD BE A CONSIDERATION.
THERE ARE MANY FORMS OF DUST CONTROL, BE IT JUST SPRAYING WATER, BUT THERE ARE ALSO SOME, UM, UH, SOLUTIONS YOU CAN USE THAT HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE LONGEVITY THAN JUST SPRAYING WATER.
UM, BUT I DO NOT ANTICIPATE DUST TO BE A GREAT CONCERN WITH THIS PROJECT.
AS OUTLINED IN THE LETTER AS IT IS GONNA BE VERY LOW SPEED TRAFFIC.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TRUCKS COMING THROUGH HERE DOING, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN THREE OR FOUR MILES AN HOUR DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE LOT.
AND USUALLY IT'S WITH SPEED THAT YOU GET THE TURBULENCE TO GENERATE THAT DUST AND KICK IT UP IN THE AIR.
I JUST WANNA BE TOTALLY CLEAR THAT YOU'RE, THIS IS THE TIMEFRAME THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO YOU AS WRITTEN IN THIS TWO YEARS WILL BE ACCEPTABLE TO US.
I HAVE A WHOLE MORE QUESTIONS.
YOU HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS AND I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND DO WE HAVE A MOTION, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST OF USE STAR TRANSPORTATION INC FOR OUR MOTOR FREIGHT TERMINAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.
[M. Public Hearing - CUP2023-10-06 - Green Valley Baptist Church - Matt Wendling - A request for a conditional use permit for a church. The property is located at 150 Ridgemont Road and is identified on tax map 11 as parcel 16B. The property is zoned Agricultural (A) and is located in the North River Magisterial District. - Matt Wendling, Planning Director]
CUP 2023 DASH 10 DASH OH SIX GREEN VALLEY BAPTIST CHURCH, MR. WENDLING.THE APPLICANT, UH, GREEN VALLEY BAPTIST CHURCH CURRENTLY HOLDS SCHEDULED WORSHIP SERVICES IN A SMALL CONGREGATION, UH, IN MIDDLETOWN.
UH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THEY ARE REQUESTING THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A CHURCH TO HOLD, UH, WORSHIP SERVICES AT A MORE PERMANENT LOCATION.
UM, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT, UH, ONE 50 RIDGEMONT ROAD AND, UM, IT'S IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 11 HAS PARCEL 16 B LOCATED IN THE NORTH RIVER DISTRICT.
UH, THE EXISTING LAND USE IS A COMMERCIAL NURSERY GARDEN CENTER, MICROBREWERY AND BREW PUB AND AG AGRICULTURAL TOURISM, UH, EVENT FACILITY AND MICROBREWERY, UH, KNOWN AS BACK ROOM BREWERY.
UM, THE APPLICANT, UH, PLANS TO USE A CURRENT STRUCTURE FOR THEIR CONGREGATION OF ABOUT 90 PEOPLE ON SUNDAYS AND WEDNESDAY EVENINGS FOR BIBLE STUDY.
UM, THEY, UM, HAVE APPROXIMATELY 35 ADULTS AND CHILDREN THAT ATTEND A WEDNESDAY EVENING BIBLE STUDY.
AND, UM, THEY'RE CURRENTLY UNDER STUDY PERIOD FOR THIS, UH, PROPERTY.
THE STRUCTURE ITSELF WAS BUILT, UH, WITH AN AGRICULTURAL EXEMPTION FOR, UM, AN AG TOURISM BUSINESS THAT, UH, WORKED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THESE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.
UM, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL PROVIDED IN HIS COMMENTS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A CHANGE OF USE FOR THIS AND UNDER, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS BUILT UNDER THAT AGRICULTURAL EXEMPTION, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A REGISTERED DESIGN PROFESSIONAL INSPECTOR REVIEW THE STRUCTURAL PROPERTIES OF THE BUILDING.
THE APPLICANT HAS HAD THAT DONE, UH, AND HAS SUBMITTED THOSE, UH, INSPECTIONS, UH, FOR, UH, ELECTRICAL CIVIL AND EVERY AND THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE REQUIRED.
UM, AND THE BUILDING CAN BE, UH, RETROFITTED TO BE BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH BUILDING CODE.
UM, THE APPLICANT, UH, AND WELL PLAINTIFF COMMISSION MOVED THIS FORWARD WITH THE, UH, FOLLOWING, UH, CONDITIONS.
UM, AND NUMBER ONE, THE CHAPEL OCCUPANCY SHALL NOT EXCEED THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS DETERMINED BY THE VIRGINIA DEPART UNIFORM STATEWIDE BUILDING CODE, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH APPROVAL FOR ONSITE SEWAGE DISPOSAL SYSTEM, MAXIMUM DESIGN FLOW OF 860 GALLONS PER DAY, WHICHEVER IS FEWEST.
NUMBER TWO, APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL WARREN COUNTY, UH, EXCUSE ME, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS IN VIRGINIA STATEWIDE FIRE PREVENTION CODE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.
NUMBER THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL SUBMIT A WATER QUALITY REPORT BY A CERTIFIED AGENCY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO BOTH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR TESTING OF E COLI AND CALIFORNIA BACTERIA.
NUMBER FOUR, THE APPLICANT SHALL SUBMIT AN ILLUSTRATIVE
[01:45:01]
SITE PLAN SHOWING PARCEL BOUNDARIES, BUILDING FOOTPRINTS, BUILDING USES AND SETBACKS FROM BUILDINGS TO THE NEAREST PROPERTIES, INGRESS EGRESS, INTERNAL ACCESS ROADS, OUTDOOR LIGHTING PARKING, INCLUDING HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE PARKING AND LIGHTING LOCATIONS TO THE COUNTY PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF THE CERTIFICATE OF ZONING.UH, NUMBER FIVE, THE APPLICANT SHALL MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTION 180 15 FOR OFF STREET PARKING FOR A CHURCH REQUIRING ONE ONE PARKING SPACE PER FOUR SEATS IN A CODE SECTION 180 49 0.2 FOR OUTDOOR LIGHTING.
NUMBER SIX, THE PARKING AREA SHALL BE HARD SURFACE AND STRIPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COUNTY CODE.
WITH SUCH WORK TO BE COMPLETED WITHIN TWO YEARS FROM THE DATE OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS GRANTED.
THE DEADLINE MAY BE EXTENDED AT THE DISCRETION OF COUNTY STAFF UPON A DETERMINATION THAT COULD CAUSE EXISTS FOR SUCH AN EXTENSION IN A SUBMISSION BY THE OWNER OF A BOND OR OTHER SECURITY AND AMOUNT OF THE ESTIMATED COST OF THE COMPLETION OF SUCH WORK.
NUMBER SEVEN, THE APPLICANT SHALL MEET ALL PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CONVERSION FROM AN AGRICULTURAL EXEMPT STRUCTURE TO A CHURCH BASED ON THE LATEST ADOPTED EDITION OF THE UNIFORM STATEWIDE BUILDING CODE.
AND NUMBER EIGHT AT THE TIME THAT THE USES PERMITTED PURSUANT TO THE FOLLOWING, CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS HAVE BEEN DIS DISCONTINUED FOR A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS.
SUCH CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS SHALL BE AUTOMATICALLY TERMINATED BY COUNTY CODE SECTION 180 63 H TWO WITHOUT FURTHER ACTION BY THE BOARD OF THE SUPERVISORS OR PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND THIS WOULD BE FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS, 2004 DASH 10 DASH TWO FOR COMMERCIAL NURSERY GARDEN CENTER, 2012 DASH 12 DASH THREE FOR A MICROBREWERY AND BREW PUB AND 2000 19 0 9 0 2 FOR EVENTS ASSOCIATED WITH MICROBREWERY AND AG TOURISM.
UH, THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED.
UH, THE APPLICANT, PASTOR TIM KERCH IS HERE, UH, TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS.
I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? HELLO, I'M PASTOR TIM KOFF IN GREEN VALLEY BAPTIST CHURCH.
WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE'VE COME ACROSS, UH, THERE IN THE, UH, NORTH RIVER DISTRICT.
WE, UH, I HAVE IMPARTED ON A, UH, $15,000 FEASIBILITY STUDY, UH, AS MATT HAD SAID, WE WORK WITH MATT AND ALSO DAVID BEAM, UH, TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THAT BUILDING'S GONNA BE UP TO CODE AND, UH, WE'RE RIGHT NOW KIND OF FIGURING OUT HOW TO BEST TO DO THAT.
WE'VE GOT THE PAPERWORK IN AND JUST KIND OF WORKING TOWARDS THAT AND WE'RE, UH, VERY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT IT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NOT THANK YOU, SIR.
MR. HENDERSON, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR THIS ONE? NO, MA'AM.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING? SECOND CALL? ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? THIRD AND FINAL? ALL THE HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
ANY DISCUSSION? I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, OKAY, MATT, ON NUMBER ONE, THERE'S ALL THESE THINGS AND IT SAYS WHICHEVER'S THE FEWEST.
AND ARE THERE NUMBERS? OKAY, SO BECAUSE I MEAN, EVERYTHING CHECKED, EVERYTHING CHECKED OUT.
WHAT, UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT WOULD THAT BE? HERE SHALL NOT EXCEED THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS DETERMINED BY THE OH, OKAY.
SO IF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS A HIGHER NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS THAN THE BUILDING CODE ALLOWS, WELL THEN IT WOULD BE WHICHEVER IS THE FEWEST I UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHICHEVER THE FEWEST MEANS.
HOW, HOW, WHO DOES HAVE THE NUMBERS AND, AND HOW DO THEY EVER GET, UH, I MEAN THE, THE, BECAUSE WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, I THINK IT'S A 90 PERSON CONGREGATION.
IF THAT GREW TO BE 900, YOU KNOW, THEN THAT'S OBVIOUS.
I MEAN, TO MAKE, TO MAKE AN OBVIOUS POINT THAT WOULD CEASE TO, TO, UH, YEAH.
AND, AND WHEN, WHEN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THESE TERMS, UH, DETERMINED BY STATEWIDE CODE AND THEN VIRGINIA, I MEAN IT'S JUST, IT'S THREE DEFINITIONS.
WHICHEVER'S THE FEWEST, BUT NO NUMBERS OF PEOPLE.
SO THAT'S JUST A QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S, THIS ISN'T THE FIRST.
UM, AND I, IT CLEARLY THEY MEET, THEY,
[01:50:01]
THEY FIT UNDER THE, THE COMFORTABLY UNDER THE LIMITS OF ALL OF THE THINGS AS I READ THROUGH THE DOCUMENTS.UM, SO IT DOES JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A PROBLEM.
UH, BUT, BUT THIS, THIS PARAGRAPH JUST KIND OF MAKES ME WONDER WHY DOESN'T IT SAY, UH, WHATEVER THE LIMITING NUMBER IS INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING WHICHEVER IS THE FEWEST OF ALL THESE DEFINITIONS BECAUSE THINGS CHANGE OVER TIME AND, AND YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ENDS UP BEING 900 CONGREGANTS.
I I'M BEING FACETIOUS, BUT THE POINT IS, I I UNDERSTAND THERE'S NO TOP END LIMIT.
WELL, THERE IS OBVIOUSLY, BUT THE, THE QUESTION IS WHAT COUNTY, WHAT DOES, WHAT MECHANISM DOES THE COUNTY HAVE TO MANAGE, UM, THE SITUATION? UM, I MEAN WE, LOOKING IN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S COMMENTS, UM, THEY ADDRESS THE CHURCH AS IT IS NOW 89 TO 90 PERSONS.
UM, THE USAGE WOULD BE ABOUT 6 25 PER DAY.
THE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO EIGHT FOR EIGHT 60.
THERE ISN'T ANY A TOP END NUMBER FROM THEM.
I MEAN IT ALL, EVERY ONE OF THOSE THINGS FITS THE THE BUT THE WHAT THIS IS A, A WAY TO, THESE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS ARE A WAY TO MANAGE CUPS OVER TIME.
AND, UM, IT'S NOT EVEN A, A STICKING POINT ACTUALLY, BUT IT IS A, A CURIOSITY WHICH MAYBE IS VAGUE.
THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE VAGUE.
IF WE KNOW NUMBERS, THEN WHY DON'T TO SAY WHICH, WHICH THE SMALLEST ONE IS AND PUT IT IN THERE INSTEAD OF SURE.
PUTTING ALL THESE DEFINITIONS IN THERE AND SAYING WHICHEVER'S THE FEWEST.
UH, I DIDN'T MENTION VDOT DOES HAVE A, UH, MENTIONED ABOUT THE ROAD ITSELF.
UM, AVERAGE WEEKDAY TRIP GENERATION FOR 90 SEAT CHURCH AND FIVE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS IS 117 TRIPS PER DAY.
UM, THEY SAY THAT BASICALLY THE ENTRANCE MEETS THE REQUIREMENT, UM, IS ADEQUATE FOR UP TO 200 TRIPS PER DAY.
SO I THINK WE HAVE SOME OF THESE STANDARDS SET, BUT THAT DON'T GIVE US THAT OCCUPANCY.
SO, UM, I, I MEAN I WISH I, I WILL IN THE FUTURE PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUESTS OF GREEN VALLEY BAPTIST CHURCH FOR A CHURCH WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.
[N. Public Hearing - CUP2023-11-01 - Jorge Lobo (97 Judy, LLC) - Chase Lenz - A request for a conditional use permit for a Short-Term Tourist Rental. The property is located at 97 Judy Lane and is identified on tax map 15E, section 5, block 5, as parcel 549. The property is zoned Residential-One (R-1) and is located in the Mountain Lake section of the Shenandoah Farms subdivision in the Shenandoah Magisterial District. - Chase Lenz, Zoning Administrator]
CUP 2023 DASH 11 DASH OH ONE JORGE LOBO OF 97 JUDY LLC MR. LIN THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL FOR THE PROPERTY PURCHASED IN MAY OF 2022.
THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THEIR PROPERTY AVAILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM LODGING FOR VISITORS SEEKING TO EXPLORE THE BEAUTY OF WARREN COUNTY AND THE SANO NATIONAL PARK WHEN HE IS NOT USING THE PROPERTY.
THE APPLICANT WILL MANAGE THE PROPERTY PERSONALLY WITH ASSISTANCE FROM LOCAL PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR CLEANING, TRASH DISPOSAL AND MAINTENANCE.
UM, THERE IS AN OCCU OR A HEALTH DEPARTMENT PERMIT APPROVING A MAXIMUM OF FOUR OCCUPANTS FOR THE TWO BEDROOM DWELLING.
THEY HAVE PROVIDED THEIR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THE DWELLING DOES MEET THE MINIMUM SETBACK REQUIREMENT FROM NEIGHBORING RESIDENCES.
THE NEAREST DWELLING IS LOCATED 180 FEET TO THE WEST ACROSS THE THE ROAD.
UM, IT IS THE STANDARD CONDITIONS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND PLANNING STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER IS NOTIFIED AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY.
ANY QUESTIONS? UH, THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION.
UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FROM THE BOARD TO THE APPLICANT? OKAY, MR. HENDERSON, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR THIS? NO MA'AM.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING? SECOND CALL.
ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? THIRD AND FINAL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION
[01:55:01]
I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST BY GEORGE LOBO.97 JUDY LLC FOR SHORT TERM TERRORIST RENTAL WITH CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.
[O. Public Hearing - CUP2023-11-02 - Vihari Vanga - Chase Lenz - A request for a conditional use permit for a Short-Term Tourist Rental. The property is located at 56 Sunset Village Road and is identified on tax map 27B, section 2, as parcel 102A1. The property is zoned Residential-One (R-1) and is located in the Junewood Estates subdivision in the Fork Magisterial District. - Chase Lenz, Zoning Administrator]
HEARING CP 2023 DASH 11 DASH TWO AND I APOLOGIZE IF I SAY YOUR NAME WRONG.THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL FOR THE PROPERTY THEY PURCHASED IN DECEMBER OF 2022.
THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THEIR PROPERTY AVAILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM LODGING FOR VISITORS OF THE WARREN COUNTY AREA.
THE APPLICANT WILL MANAGE THE PROPERTY PERSONALLY WITH ASSISTANCE FROM AN EXPERIENCED LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER.
UH, PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE JUNE WOOD ESTATE SUBDIVISION.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY THREE NOW ACTIVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL IN THAT SUBDIVISION AND UM, THERE IS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT CONDITIONAL PERMIT ALLOWING A MAXIMUM OF FIVE OCCUPANTS FOR THE FOUR BEDROOM DWELLING.
HAVE PROVIDED THEIR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THE APPLICANT DOES NEED TO REQUEST THE WAIVER TO THE 100 FOOT SETBACK REGULATION.
UH, THE DWELLING DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIRED A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACK TO EITHER PROPERTY TO THE EAST OR WEST.
UH, THE DWELLING ON THE PROPERTY OF THE EAST IS LOCATED 38 FEET FROM THE DWELLING ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE DWELLING ON THE PROPERTY OF THE WEST IS LOCATED 94 FEET FROM THE DWELLING ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AND THE, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM BOTH OF THOSE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE WITHIN THE SETBACK AND THE DWELLING THAT IS 94 FEET FROM THE DWELLING IS ONE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE APPROVED TO BE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL IN THE SUBDIVISION.
SO IT IS THE STANDARD CONDITIONS, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING PLANNING STAFF WITH CONDITION NUMBER EIGHT.
SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO WAIVE THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT, A WAIVER TO THE REQUIRED SETBACK OF 100 FEET TO NEIGHBORING DWELLINGS SHALL BE GRANTED FOR THE EXISTING 38 FOOT AND 94 FOOT SETBACKS TO THE DWELLINGS EAST AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED AND I'LL, I'LL NOTE THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE NEIGHBORS FOR THE SETBACK WAIVER AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.
UM, SO WHAT DREW US TO FRENCH ROYAL WAS THE SHENANDOAH VALLEY AND THE UM, SKYLINE DRIVE AND WE REALLY LOVE THE CHARM OF FRONT ROYAL SO WE WOULD, UH, THE REASON WHY WE DECIDED TO DO THIS SHORT RUN, SHORT TERM RENTAL, UH, IS TO SHARE THIS WITH THE OTHER TOURISTS AND UH, VISITORS TO FRONT ROYAL.
UM, ALSO LIKE IT WAS MENTIONED, WE HAVE UM, GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR NEIGHBORS.
WE HAVE THEIR, UH, WAIVERS FOR UM, HAVING A SHORT, SHORT TERM RENTAL AND UM, WE DO SPEND TIME AT THE HOUSE, UM, DURING THE WEEKDAYS.
UM, YEAH AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT? THANK YOU.
MR. HENDERSON, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AT THIS ONE? NO MA'AM.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK SECOND CALL.
ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST OF THE HIRING EVON FOR A SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.
AND NOW WE'RE DOWN TO OUR LEASE AGREEMENT.
[P. Public Hearing - Lease Agreement of 201 E. 2nd St., Apt. 2 - Mike Berry - Jane Meadows, Deputy County Administrator ]
IS A LEASE AGREEMENT OF 2 0 1 EAST SECOND STREET, APARTMENT TWO SEAT.ALL RIGHT, SO OUR FIRST LEASE IS 2 0 1 SECOND STREET, APARTMENT TWO.
UM, AND WE WOULD, WE HAVE, UM, ADVERTISE AS PROPERTY, UM, AS THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE.
[02:00:01]
WE MUST FIRST HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, BEFORE SIGNING A NEW LEASE.THIS WOULD BE FOR UM, CRAIG AND SHELLY HAYES WHO CURRENTLY OCCUPY THE PROPERTY FOR $725 PER MONTH.
I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, THIS, I ACTUALLY USED THIS AS AN EXAMPLE LAST TIME I WAS HERE.
THIS IS ACTUALLY ON TOP OF THE UH, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BUILDING.
ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. BERRY? MR. HENDERSON, DID ANYONE SIGN UP FOR THIS ONE? NO MA'AM.
ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? SECOND CALL.
ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE LEASE OF 2 0 1 EAST SECOND STREET, APARTMENT TWO, FRONT ROYAL VIRGINIA 2 2 6 3 OH WITH CRAIG AND SHELLY HAYES FOR A MONTHLY RUN OF $725.
[Q. Public Hearing - Lease Agreement of 122 E. 2nd St.- Mike Berry - Jane Meadows, Deputy County Administrator]
NEXT IS LEASE AGREEMENT OF 1 22 EAST SECOND STREET.MR. BERRY, ITEM Q UM, THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED AT 1 22 EAST SECOND STREET, FRONT ROYAL CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY DEBORAH MALLOY.
UM, SHE'S BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS.
UM, THIS IS A HOUSE, IT'S A ROW HOUSE RIGHT BEHIND THE, THE FACILITY WE'RE IN.
UM, AND IT'S UP FOR RENT FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER MONTH.
AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED AND UM, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BERRY? IF NOT, UM, GOING, I DON'T WANNA SAY, WOULD ANYONE SIGN UP FOR THIS? NO MA'AM.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK SECOND CALL? THIRD CALL.
ANY DISCUSSION AND IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE LEASE OF 1 22 EAST SECOND STREET, FRONT ROYAL VIRGINIA 2 2 6 3 0 WITH MS. DEBORAH MALLOY FOR A MONTHLY RENT OF $1,000.
[R. Public Hearing - Lease Agreement of Hangar A5 to Wolfgang Wagner - Mike Berry - Jane Meadows, Deputy County Administrator , Mike Berry, Public Works Director]
OF HANGAR A FIVE TO WOLF GAIN.WAGNER, UH, MR. BERRY AND, AND I THINK WE HAD A FEW QUESTIONS LAST TIME.
UM, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH A NEW LEASE SO THIS IS UPDATING, I THINK YOU'LL SEE ME AT LEAST ONCE MORE.
UM, WE HAVE I THINK ALL BUT SIX LEASES ACCORDING TO THE COUNTY'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TODAY 'CAUSE I ASKED THAT QUESTION.
SO, UM, AS WE GO THROUGH THESE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LOCATIONS OR THE HANGERS, YOU PLEASE FEEL FREE.
UM, A FIVE IS LOCATED AT 2 2 9 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD AT OUR AIRPORT IN FRONT ROYAL.
UM, THIS WOULD BE TO MR. WOLFGANG WAGNER FOR A MONTHLY RENT OF $350.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED AND I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE SIGNED UP? MR. HENDERSON? NO MA'AM.
ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? SECOND, THIRD CALL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE LEASE OF HANGAR A FIVE LOCATED AT 2 2 9 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD, FRONT ROYAL VIRGINIA 2 2 6 3 0 WITH MR. WOLFGANG WAGNER FOR A MONTHLY RENT OF $350.
[S. Public Hearing - Lease Agreement of Hangar C2 to Randolph Macon Academy - Mike Berry - Jane Meadows, Deputy County Administrator , Mike Berry, Public Works Director]
LEASE AGREEMENT OF HANGAR C TWO TO RANDOLPH MACON ACADEMY.MR. BERRY AGAIN HANGAR C TWO LOCATED AT 2 2 9 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD.
UM, TO RANDOLPH MAKING THIS IS ACTUALLY WITHIN A BOX HANGER THAT IS SHARED BUT THEIR PORTION IS THREE 50 PER MONTH AND HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED AND I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE SIGNED UP? MR. HENDERSON? NO MA'AM.
ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? SECOND AND THIRD CHANCE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
IS THERE A MOTION? I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE LEASE OF HANGER C TWO LOCATED AT 2 29 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD, FRONT ROYAL VIRGINIA 2 2 6 3 OH WITH RANDOLPH MACON ACADEMY FOR A MONTHLY RENT OF $350.
[02:05:01]
AYE.[T. Public Hearing - Lease Agreement of Hangar B11 to John Ely - Mike Berry ]
LEASE AGREEMENT OF HANGAR B 11 TO JOHN ELY.MR. BERRY COUNTY, WE'D LIKE TO LEASE HANGAR B 11 UM, LOCATED AT 2 2 9 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD TO MR. JOHN ELY FOR A MONTHLY RENT OF THREE 50.
THIS HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED AND I'M GLAD TO ASK, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE SIGNED UP? NO MA'AM.
ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? SECOND, THIRD CALL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE LEASE OF HANGAR B 11 LOCATED AT 2 2 9 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD FOR ROYAL VIRGINIA.
2 2 6 3 OH WITH JOHN ELY FOR A MONTHLY RANT OF $350.
[U. Public Hearing - Lease Agreement of Hangar B15 to Rock Skowbo - Mike Berry - Jane Meadows, Deputy County Administrator , Mike Berry, Public Works Director]
LEASE AGREEMENT OF HANGAR B 15 TO ROX GOBO MR. BERRY COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO LEASE HANGAR B 15 LOCATED AT 2 2 9 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD TO ROX COBO FOR THE MONTHLY RENT OF $350.THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE SIGN UP? NO MA'AM.
ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? SECOND AND THIRD CALL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE? THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE LEASE OF HANGAR B 15 LOCATED 2 29 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD FOR ROYAL VIRGINIA.
2 2 6 3 OH WITH ROCK GOBO FOR A MONTHLY RENT OF $350.
MADAM, MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, I WAS JUST WONDERING, UH, A NUMBER OF THESE ARE, IT'S DIFFERENT HANGERS BUT FOR THE SAME PERSON, CAN WE GROUP THOSE TOGETHER AND JUST SAY OR DOES EACH ONE HAVE TO BE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS EACH ONE HAS TO BE SEPARATE, SIR.
[V. Public Hearing - Lease Agreement of Hangar B18 to Rock Skowbo - Jane Meadows, Deputy County Administrator , Mike Berry, Public Works Director]
LEASE AGREEMENT OF, UH, HANGAR B 18 TO ROX GOBO.MR. BERRY, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO REDUCE MY SUMMATION AND JUST SAY THE EXPLANATION AND SUMMARY IS AVAILABLE FOR HANGER B 18.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M GLAD TO ANSWER.
IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? THIS IS HANGER 18 OR 19 B HANGER B 1818.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SECOND AND THIRD CALL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE LEASE OF HANGER B 18 LOCATED AT 2 29 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD, FRONT RURAL VIRGINIA 2 2 6 3 OH WITH ROCKS GOBO FOR A MONTHLY RENT OF $350.
[W. Public Hearing - Lease Agreement of Hangar B19 to Rock Skowbo - Jane Meadows, Deputy County Administrator , Mike Berry, Public Works Director]
LEASE AGREEMENT OF HANGER B 19 TO R KOBO.MR. BERRY AGAIN, UH, MR. KOBO, OUR SAME TENANT HANGER B 19.
YOUR EXPLANATION AND SUMMARY IS THERE PROPERLY ADVERTISED? GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
SO WHY IS THIS HANGER $200 AND ALL THE OTHER HANGERS HAVE BEEN $350? WE HAVE, UM, AND I CAN TELL YOU WHICH ONES, UM, WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT ARE LIKE A HALF BAY OR A, A SMALLER BAY.
UM, AND, AND THE UM, THE SMALLER BAY IS 200 AND THE FULL SIZE IS THREE 50.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER, UM, TENANTS THAT HAVE A $200 AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE SIGNED UP? MR. HENDERSON? NO MA'AM.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS SECOND AND THIRD CALL? PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE LEASE OF HANGER B 19 LOCATED AT 2 2 9 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD, FRONT ROYAL VIRGINIA 2 2 6 3 0 WITH ROCK COBO FOR A MONTHLY RENT OF $200.
AYE FOR, FOR THAT $200 DOES HE GET TO PASSCO? WELL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN HE'S GETTING A DISCOUNT.
HOW MANY DOES HE HAVE? HE'S GOT ONE.
HE HAS, WELL HE HAS A REQUEST FOR ONE MORE, BUT WE HAVE NOT
[02:10:01]
APPROVED THAT REQUEST.A REQUEST? WELL, IT'S, UH, THERE ARE, THERE ARE TWO FOLKS' NAME ON THE, UM, LEASE.
UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
IT'S, IT'S UNDER REVIEW WITH OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY AT THIS TIME.
SO WHAT THE REQUEST, UH, SO DON'T WE HAVE A HANGER? YES MA'AM.
WE DO, RIGHT? SO IS IT HE ON THE LIST? HE IS NUMBER EIGHT.
COULD WE, COULD WE GET BACK TO GETTING THESE? UM, AND THEY ASK THOSE QUESTIONS ANOTHER TIME? WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW MORE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
YEAH, THAT ONE'S ON A HOLD I THINK, RIGHT? THAT ONE, THAT ONE WAS DENIED.
IT WASN'T PUT ON TONIGHT FOR A REASON.
UM, BUT WE CAN DISCUSS THAT LATER IF YOU'D LIKE.
NO, WE'LL JUST WAIT TO SEE IT SHOWS UP.
[X. Public Hearing - Lease Agreement of Hangar B16 to Rock Skowbo - Jane Meadows, Deputy County Administrator , Mike Berry, Public Works Director]
OF HANGAR B 16 TO R GOBO MR. BERRY.UM, AND THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO MR. KOBO B 16.
UM, THE EXPLANATION SUMMARY IS THERE PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
THIS IS FULL SIZE HANGAR PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.
ANY QUESTIONS IF NOT, MR. HENDERSON? HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP? NO MA'AM.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK SECOND AND THIRD CALL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THE BOARD.
SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE LEASE OF HANGAR B 16 LOCATED AT 2 2 9 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD, FRONT ROYAL VIRGINIA 2 2 6 3 0 WITH MR. ROCK KOBO FOR A RENT OF $350.
[Y. Public Hearing - Lease Agreement of NW Storage Hangar to Skyline Soaring Club, Inc. - Jane Meadows, Deputy County Administrator , Mike Berry, Public Works Director]
OF NW STORAGE HANGER TO SKYLINE SOARING INCORPORATED, MR. BERRY.AND THIS IS ALSO A $200 JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, UM, IN WHAT WE CALL T HANGER A, THERE'S ONE HALF SIZE AND THERE'S ALSO THE FULL SIZE POT FOR PHI AND THEN OUR HANGAR B WE HAVE TWO OF THE SMALLER SIZE AND THIS IS ONE OF THE SMALLER SIZE.
SO, UM, THOSE SMALLER SIZE HANGERS ARE $200.
SO, UM, THIS, THIS, UM, THIS SMALLER HANGAR HAS BEEN, UM, UM, PROPERLY ADVERTISED AND IT WOULD GO TO THE, UM, SOARING CLUB, THE SKYLINE SCORING CLUB.
THEY'VE BEEN AT OUR AIRPORT FOR A LONG TIME.
UM, EXPLANATION AND SUMMARY IS HERE.
UM, I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE SIZE OR THE COST.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS MR. ANDERSON? ANYONE SIGNED UP? NO MA'AM.
ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? SECOND AND THIRD CALL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE? THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE LEASE OF NW STORAGE AREA LOCATED AT 2 29 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD, FRONT, ROYAL VIRGINIA 2 2 6 3 0 WEST SKYLINE, SO INC.
MRS. SCOTT, A LEASE AGREEMENT OF HANGAR B TWO TO SKYLINE SOARING CLUB INCORPORATED MR. BERRY, UM,
[Z. Public Hearing - Lease Agreement of Hangar B2 to Skyline Soaring Club, Inc. - Jane Meadows, Deputy County Administrator , Mike Berry, Public Works Director]
ITEM Z EXPLANATION SUMMARY AVAILABLE, IT WOULD BE OF RENT TO SKYLINE SOARING FOR THREE 50 AND PROPERLY ADVERTISED.ANY QUESTIONS? NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP.
I'M GOING TO ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS.
AND THIRD CALL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED RELEASE OF HANGAR B TWO LOCATED AT 2 2 9 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD, FRONT, ROYAL VIRGINIA 2 2 6 3 0 WITH SKYLINE SWEARING CLUB INCORPORATED FOR A MONTHLY RENT OF $350.
LEE'S AGREEMENT OF HANGAR B FOUR TO SKYLINE SOARING COMPANY INCORPORATED.
[AA. Public Hearing - Lease Agreement of Hangar B4 to Skyline Soaring Club, Inc. - Mike Berry, Public Works Director, Jane Meadows, Deputy County Administrator ]
ITEM A A WE WILL AGAIN BE THREE 50 TO SKYLINE SOARING UM, CLUB AND AGAIN, IT'S BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.GLAD TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP.
AND WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME? SECOND, THIRD CALL.
IS THERE A MOTION AND CHAIR? I MOVE THE BOARD TO SUPERVISOR TO APPROVE THE LEASE OF HANGER B FOUR LOCATED 2 2 9 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD FOR ROYAL VIRGINIA.
2 2 6 3 0 WITH SKYLINE SOARING CLO INCORPORATED FOR A MONTHLY RENT OF $350.
[02:15:01]
DR.[BB. Public Hearing - Lease Agreement of Hangar B6 to Skyline Soaring Club, Inc. - Jane Meadows, Deputy County Administrator , Mike Berry, Public Works Director]
OF HANGAR B SIX TO SKYLINE SOARING CLUB MR. BERRY.AND, AND JUST FOR FOOD FOR THOUGHT, I THINK IT'S 27 GLIDERS AND ULTRA LIGHTS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY ON OUR BASE AIRCRAFT SURVEY.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF GLIDERS OUT THERE, BUT, UM, B SIX WOULD ALSO BE FOR SKYLINE SOARING, UM, AND THREE 50 A MONTH.
IT'S BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EXPLANATION AND SUMMARY.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE SIGN UP? WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? SECOND AND THIRD CALL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE? THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE LEASE OF HANGAR B SIX LOCATED AT 2 2 9 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD FOR ROYAL VIRGINIA.
2 2 6 3 OH WITH SKYLINE S SOARING CLUB INCORPORATED FOR A MONTHLY RENT OF $350.
MADAM CHAIR A MR. BUTLER? AYE.
LEASE AGREEMENT OF HANGAR B EIGHT TO SOAR ON SKYLINE SOARING CLUB.
[CC. Public Hearing - Lease Agreement of Hangar B8 to Skyline Soaring Club, Inc. - Jane Meadows, Deputy County Administrator , Mike Berry, Public Works Director]
WE WOULD LIKE TO, UH, LEASE HANGAR B EIGHT TO SKYLINE STORING, UM, FOR THREE 50 A MONTH PROPERLY ADVERTISED.GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS? WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS SECOND AND THIRD CALL? PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE LEASE OF HANGER B EIGHT LOCATED AT 2 22 29 SOAKS AIRPORT ROAD FRONT ROYAL VIRGINIA 2 2 6 3 OH WITH SKYLINE SOARING CLUB INC.
SECOND WILL CALL MR. HENDERSON.
[DD. Public Hearing - Lease Agreement of Hangar B1 to Skyline Soaring Club, Inc. - Jane Meadows, Deputy County Administrator , Mike Berry, Public Works Director]
LEASE AGREEMENT OF HANGAR B ONE TO SKYLINE SOARING COMPANY INCORPORATED.SAME EXPLANATION AND SUMMARY, UM, RENTED TO SKYLINE SEWING FOR THREE 50.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SECOND CALL.
IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE LEASE OF HANGER B ONE LOCATED 2 2 9 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD FRONT ROYAL VIRGINIA 2 2 6 3 0 WITH SKYLINE SWEARING CLUB INCORPORATED FOR A MONTHLY RENT OF $350.
[EE. Public Hearing - Lease Agreement of Hangar B5 to Skyline Soaring Club, Inc. - Jane Meadows, Deputy County Administrator , Mike Berry, Public Works Director]
AGREEMENT OF HANGAR B FIVE TO SKYLINE SEW AND CLUB INCORPORATED MR. BERRY, UM, NUM NUMBER B 5 2 2 9 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD TO SKYLINE SEWING FOR THREE 50 TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS PROPERLY ADVERTISE AND, UM, PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE SIGNED UP? MR. HENDERSON, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK SECOND CALL? YES MA'AM.
UH, BEGGING THE BOARD'S AND BOARD'S INDULGENCE, I WOULD LIKE TO APPRECIATE AND RECOGNIZE MR. BERRY, MS. JANE MEADOWS, AND ESPECIALLY MRS. KAITLYN SHELTON FOR GETTING ALL OF OUR LEASES IN ALIGNMENT AND WE'LL HAVE A FEW MORE COMING NEXT MONTH, BUT WE ARE COLLECTING THEM ALL AND GETTING THEM ALL UP TO DATE AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, JUST GOING THROUGH THEM HAS BEEN ENOUGH OF, AND YOU DID THE HARD WORK, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I ASKED IF ANYONE WANTED TO SPEAK CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE LEASE OF HANGAR B FIVE LOCATED AT 2 2 9 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD, FRONT ROYAL VIRGINIA 2 2 6 3 OH WITH SKYLINE SOARING CLUB INCORPORATED FOR A MONTHLY RAN OF $350.
SECOND ROLL CALL MR. HENDERSON.
[FF. D.R. Horton Request to Release - Reduction of Blue Ridge Shadows Subdivision Bonds for Roads and Stormwater Management]
BUSINESS.UM, DR. HORTON REQUESTS A RELEASE AND REDUCTION OF BLUE RIDGE SHADOW SUBDIVISION BONDS FOR ROADS AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.
UH, BLUE RIDGE SHADOWS, UH, AND DR.
WELL, DR. HORTON, UH, IS REQUESTING THIS RELEASE, UM, OF, UH, BOTH PHASE ONE BOND AND PHASE FOUR BOND.
[02:20:01]
SUBDIVISION BOND, UH, WAS ORIGINALLY, UH, ISSUED AUGUST 9TH, 2005 FOR 6,000,800, UH, $88,513 AND WERE WAS REDUCED TO $1,843,818 EFFECTIVE MARCH 21ST, 2007.THEY ARE REQUESTING A RELEASE OF THIS BOND AND VDOT HAS SUBMITTED RECOMMENDATION FOR THE RELEASE IN AN EMAIL DATED, UH, JANUARY 8TH, 2024.
UM, THE FINAL PLAT FOR, UH, PHASE FOR SUBDIVISION WAS APPROVED JANUARY 10TH, 2006 AND THE SUBDIVISION BOND FOR THIS PHASE, UH, WAS ISSUED DECEMBER 15TH, 2005 FOR $1,389,177 AND DECREASED TO TWO THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED THREE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED NINETY EIGHT DOLLARS EFFECTIVE MARCH 20TH, 2007.
UH, THEY ARE REQUESTING THIS BOND TO BE RELEASED AND BE THAT AS SUBMITTED ALSO WITHIN THAT EMAIL RECOMMENDATION FOR THE RELEASE, UH, IN THAT JANUARY 8TH, 2024 EMAIL, UM, THEY HAVE ALSO REQUESTED REDUCTION TO THE BOND ISSUED FOR FA FIVE, PHASE FIVE.
PHASE FIVE INCLUDES PORTIONS OF JOHN HOPKINS DRIVE NORTH ALBATROS COURT FOR COURT, BOGEY COURT, HICKORY SHAFT COURT, FLAGSTICK COURT AND PUTTER COURT.
THE FINAL PLAT FOR THAT WAS APPROVED NOVEMBER 13TH, 2006.
SUBDIVISION BOND FOR THIS PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT WAS POSTED DECEMBER 8TH, 2006 FOR $3,238,631 AND REDUCED TO $611,967 EFFECTIVE MARCH 1ST, 21ST 2007.
UH, THEY ARE REQUESTING A REDUCTION TO THE BOND AMOUNT TO 300,000 FOR THE REMAINING VDOT AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT IMPROVEMENTS.
I HAVE MET WITH VDOT ON THESE ITEMS, UM, AND VDOT WAS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE 300,000 AMOUNT.
UH, UH, CHAIRMAN CULLERS ASKED THAT WE GET SOMETHING FROM THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNER AS TO HOW MUCH, UH, ITEMIZED AMOUNT, HOW MUCH WAS LEFT.
UM, THEY DID GET A THIRD PARTY, UH, AMOUNT, WHICH WAS NOT NEAR WHAT, UM, BE THAT THOUGHT THEY NEEDED.
UM, WE DID GET A, A, A CHECKLIST OF WHAT WAS, UH, NECESSARY TO FINALIZE, UM, BRINGING THESE ROADS INTO, UH, BE THAT SYSTEM AND, UM, BE THAT WAS A, UH, THE APPLICANT, DR. HORTON WAS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE 300,000.
NOW FOR THIS TIME, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MEN MENTION THAT IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH VDOT REPRESENTATIVES, THEY STATED THAT BLUE RIDGE SHADOWS SUBDIVISIONS WERE APPROVED PRIOR TO VDO T'S CODE FOR THE SUBDIVISION IN STREET ACCEPTANCE REQUIREMENTS, SOMETIMES REF REFERRED TO AS SSAR.
THAT CODE WAS ADOPTED IN 2009 AND AMENDED IN 2011.
FOR THAT REASON, THEY ARE NOT REQUIRING THAT THE, UH, UH, SPIKE STRIPS AT THE END OF JOHN HOPKINS DRIVE AND, UH, BOTH SOUTH AND NORTH BE, UH, BROUGHT INTO THE, THE ROAD SYSTEM.
UH, THEY DID MENTION THAT COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO REQUEST A CONDEMNATION OF THE LAND THAT AREA UP WITHIN THE SITE TRIPS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
UH, THAT WOULD IN ALL ESSENCE ALLOW ANY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE PUBLIC ROADS THAT WOULD BE ADOPTED WITHIN, UH, THE, UH, BLUE RIDGE SHADOW SUBDIVISION.
UM, WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY CREATE A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAD, AGAIN, INCONSISTENT, WELL, YOU HAD ZONING FOR AN INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY, UH, WHICH WE CURRENTLY HAVE A, UH, APPLICATION IN FROM SLATE RUN FARMS TO, UH, TO REZONE THAT PROPERTY TO INDUSTRIAL, UM, ADJACENT TO A A SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, UH, WITHOUT THE COUNTY REQUESTING THAT CONDEMNATION.
THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A, AN AREA THAT COULD NOT BE
[02:25:01]
TRAVERSED BY ROAD.AND, UM, SO THAT WOULD BE, UH, UP TO THE COUNTY, UH, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMP RANCID PLAN.
I WOULD SAY FOR THE ADDRESS, ROUTE 5 3 45 22 CORRIDOR TRANSPORTATION PLAN, RURAL PRINCIPAL ARTERY DOES IDENTIFY CONNECTIONS AND THEY WOULD BE PARALLEL CONNECTIONS ALONG 3 45 22, UM, FROM RELIANCE ROAD AND THEN ACROSS FROM FAIRGROUND ROAD, UH, COMING ALONG 3 45 22.
WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO, IN THE TIME SINCE THE LAST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JUNE, 2013, WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO ACQUIRE ANY OF THAT, UH, ANY OF THOSE ROADS OR ANY OF THAT LAND TO PROVIDE THAT, UH, INTERCONNECTOR IN THAT AREA OF, OF THE COUNTY.
SO, UM, AGAIN, WE WOULD PROBABLY ADDRESS THIS, UH, DURING OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVIEW, UM, FOR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS AND TRANSPORTATION, UH, WITHIN, UH, 5 22 3 40 CORRIDOR.
AGAIN, SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE HAD BLUERIDGE SHADOWS COMPLETED THE SUBDIVISION 224 HOMES THERE NOW.
UM, AND, UH, THEY WOULD LIKE TO, UH, BE ABLE TO GET THE, THEIR ROADS INTO THE STATE ROAD SYSTEM, UH, IN ORDER FOR THE STATE TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THOSE ROADS.
UM, AND DR. HORTON IS, AS I SAID, IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE 300,000 FOR THE, UH, REDUCTION.
AND, UH, UM, UH, THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT
HORTON'S CHECKLIST AT THIS TIME.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER.
HORTON'S LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE MR. TY LAWSON IS HERE ALSO TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT THE ACQUISITION OF THE RIGHT OF WAYS AND ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IS FELT COULD BE COVERED WITH THAT 300,000, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, VI HAD, UH, FELT THAT WAS A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT FOR WHAT WAS LEFT FROM THE CHECKLIST.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. WENDLING ON THIS? JUST ONE? DID DID YOU SAY THERE WAS ALSO A THIRD PARTY NUMBER THAT CAME IN DIFFERENT FROM THE VDOT NUMBER? IT WAS ABOUT $2,000 2004.
IT WAS A VERY, VERY LOW AMOUNT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE RELEASE OF SUBDIVISION BOND NUMBER 9 6 4 0 0 6 7 6 8 IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,843,818 FOR PHASE ONE? EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE RELEASE OF SUBDIVISION BOND NUMBER 5 8 0 7 2 2 5 FOR DR. HORTON INC.
IN THE AMOUNT OF 203,398 FOR PHASE FOUR.
I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE REDUCTION OF THE SUBDIVISION BOND NUMBER 2 9 2 9 4 1 3 8 6 3 2 300,000 FOR PHASE FIVE FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS FOR BLUE RIDGE SHADOW SUBDIVISION FOR THE REMAINING VDOT AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT IMPROVEMENTS.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND ROLL CALL MR. HENDERSON.
[GG. Consent Agenda]
GO ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA BEFORE COMING BACK TO REPORTS AND, UM, MINUTES AND PUBLIC COMMENT.ARE THERE ANY ITEMS TO PULL FOR, UM, DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED? SO MOVED.
[HH. Joint Town/County Transportation and Infrastructure Committee - Board Member Appointees - Cheryl Cullers ]
HH IS THE JOINT TOWN COUNTY TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE.UM, WE ACTUALLY FORMED THIS COMMITTEE OUT OF THE LIAISON AND IT WAS FOUND THAT WE NEED TO MAKE IT AN OFFICIAL, UH, COMMITTEE BY BOTH THE TOWN AT THEIR MEETING AND OURS.
AND, UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? YES, I DO.
UM, I KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THAT
[02:30:01]
WE ARE REPLACING THE ORIGINAL SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WAS APPOINTED LAST YEAR THAT WAS FOCUSING ON A SHORT TERM LONG TERM FIX FOR THE LAND LOCK OUT AND, AND THE SHORES.SO WHAT WE WE'RE DOING, WE'RE EXPANDING THIS COMMITTEE TO BE MORE BROAD, UH, THAN JUST EARMARKING THAT ONE, UM, UH, UH, VISION IF YOU WILL.
SO I WAS WONDERING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE GETTING READY TO, UM, WELL NOT SO MUCH GETTING READY, UM, THE LAST LIAISON MEETING IN LAST YEAR, THERE WAS AN ACTION ITEM THAT WE CREATE SOME BYLAWS FOR THIS TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE OR A POLICY SO WE UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF IT.
SO MY QUESTION IS, NOW THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF CHANGING, YOU KNOW, THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO BE APPROACHING THIS COMMITTEE, CAN, UM, ARE WE STILL GOING TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF POLICY IN PLACE OR BYLAWS THAT EXPLAINS THE SCOPE OF THIS COMMITTEE? DR.
YOU WANNA MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT? SO THERE WAS A, A DRAFT PREPARED THAT WENT TO THE LIAISON COMMITTEE, UH, MA'AM.
AND THE THOUGHT WAS THAT THE COMMITTEE AS RESTRUCTURED SHOULD GO BACK AND LOOK AT THIS AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE LIAISON COMMITTEE IN APRIL AS TO HOW TO DO THE POLICY SCOPE IN THAT.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST, YOU KNOW, IF IF THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, UH, THINKS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF BYLAWS OR, OR POLICY FOR THIS JOINT COMMITTEE, WE DO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TAKE WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR AND TWEAK IT AND TO, TO, UH, TO EXPAND THE SCOPE OF WHAT THIS SUBCOMMITTEE IS REALLY LOOKING AT.
AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING ONCE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE BECOMES OFFICIAL, UM, THE TOWN HAS TO VOTE ON IT YET AND WE MEET THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE DO IS ORGANIZATIONAL.
SO YES, THAT WE WILL LOOK AT A, A BYLAWS AFTER WE GET THE, THE APPROVALS IF WE FOUND THAT BYLAWS ARE REQUIRED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND JUST FOR CLARITY FOR UM, CURRENTLY, UM, APPOINTED HAS WITH THIS MOTION WOULD BE MYSELF AND MR. STAN MEYER.
UM, I WAS ON IT PRIOR TO AND TO TRY TO KEEP SOME CONTINUITY THERE.
I'M NOT SURE WHO THE TOWN IS GOING TO ELECT, BUT, UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ESTABLISHED THE JOINT TOWN COUNTY TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE.
I FURTHER MOVE TO APPOINT, UH, MS. CHERYL CU AND MR. JOHN STAN MEYER TO THE COMMITTEE.
THE COMMITTEE WILL MEET AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER OR TOWN HALL ON THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF EACH MONTH AND AS ESTABLISHED BY THE COMMITTEE.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND ROLL CALL.
MR. BUTLER? UH, MADAM CHAIR, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO, TO, UH, UH, MENTION.
THE, UM, I ATTENDED THE, UH, IT'S THE COUNTY FINANCE MEETING, UH, THIS WAS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND THE, UH, UH, THE, UH, DEVELOPING, YOU KNOW, POLICIES AND, UH, MS. COOK WILL PROBABLY GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, DETAIL ON THAT.
UH, I ALSO ATTENDED THE PUBLIC SCHOOL OF, UH, IT, UH, INTERNAL FINANCE MEETING AS AN OBSERVER JUST TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON.
UH, AND I'VE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THE AIRPORT COMMISSION CHAIR ON, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WAY FORWARD WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, FRONT ROYAL AIRPORT.
AND THEN I'VE ALSO HAD, UH, SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THE, UH, UH, WINCHESTER AIRPORT ADMINISTRATOR SO THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, SEEING IF HE CAN GIVE US SOME, SOME POINTERS AND SOME, UH, DIRECTIONS TO, TO, FOR THE, UH, FOR THE AIRPORT TO GO IN.
MR. MEYER? UM, YEAH, I ATTENDED MY FIRST, UH, RSW JAIL COMMITTEE MEETING.
UM, ALSO, UH, THERE WAS AN AIRPORT MEETING WITH THE FAA, UM, AND WE DISCUSSED, UH, OPTIMIZING, UH, THE APPLICATION FOR, UH, FUNDING FROM THE FAA FOR VARIOUS AIRPORT IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UH, TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON SHADO SHORES ROAD, I KNOW THAT, UH, I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF
[02:35:01]
CONSTITUENT CALLS ABOUT THIS AND PEOPLE ARE PRETTY UPSET.UM, JUST THAT THE COUNTY IS DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO, TO, AT LEAST FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES, MAKE, MAKE, UH, MINIMAL IMPACT AND, UH, UM, THAT IT, IT WAS NOT A COUNTY DECISION OR A TOWN DECISION FOR THAT MATTER, THAT THIS WOULD HAPPEN.
IT REALLY IS, UH, AS WAS EXPLAINED EARLIER TODAY, IT WAS REALLY IN THE RAILROADS, UH, REMIT TO DO THIS.
UM, AND, UH, SO, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN THAT, UH, HAVE IT GO SMOOTHLY.
SO, UM, WE HAD OUR TOWN AND COUNTY LIAISON MEETING.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WE HAD A REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION ON LANDLORD AND TENANT'S RIGHTS IN, IN THE COUNTY AND, UM, AND HOW THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN CAN WORK TOGETHER TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT AND ON THE COMPLAINT AND ENFORCEMENT PROCESS OF SOME OF THE, UM, TENANTS, UH, THAT THE TOWN TOOK, TOOK THE LEAD, UH, TO IMPLEMENT ANY PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS, UM, AND, UM, UH, GETTING THE CITIZEN COMPLAINTS.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE, THE TOWN AND SEEING HOW WE CAN BE MORE, UM, TRANSPARENT AND HAVE MORE ENFORCEMENT AND HELPING ALL THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY.
UM, WE, WE BRIEFLY TOUCHED ON AND THAT, UH, THAT WE HAVE EXPANDED THE SCOPE OF THE JOINT INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, UM, SUBCOMMITTEE.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO LOOKING AT ALL THE DIFFERENT, UM, VISIONS OF, OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AND THE DISCUSSIONS AND, UM, COMING UP WITH SOME REASONABLE SOLUTIONS ON OUR CHALLENGES OF, IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE CHALLENGES.
'CAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT AHEAD OF US.
UM, I ALSO WAS PART OF, UM, OF THE BROADBAND QUARTERLY MEETING.
UM, IN THAT MEETING THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS ON THE REGIONAL BROADBAND DEPLOYMENT PROGRESS AND TIMELINE.
UM, THERE'S BEEN DELAYS TO THE DEPLOYMENT TIMELINE BECAUSE THE PAST SUPPLY CHAINS AND, UH, STRUGGLES AND DESIGN HURDLES.
BUT, UM, I'M, I'M STILL HOPEFUL THAT THERE'S A RECOVERY SCHEDULE IN PLACE.
SO, UM, WE WILL STILL, UM, I THINK WHAT IN TWO YEARS WE SHOULD BE COMPLETELY DEPLOYED FOR THE REGION.
UM, I TOO WAS PART OF THE RSW AUTHORITY MEETING.
I WAS APPOINTED TO THAT COMMITTEE.
AND SO I'M ALSO LOOKING FORWARD TO BE PART OF, UM, OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS.
UM, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT, WE'RE CONTINUING WITH OUR FISCAL YEAR 24 25 BUDGET HEARINGS.
UM, I BELIEVE NEXT WEEK OR NO, THURSDAY WE START, UM, WITH OUR DEPARTMENTS, OUR COUNTY DEPARTMENTS.
SO, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE GOING THROUGH THE, UM, REST OF FEBRUARY.
UM, I DID GO TO THE VA, UH, VACO LEGISLATION DAY AND THE CHAIRMAN INSTITUTION SESSION, UH, THE FIRST ONE I ATTENDED.
AND, UM, I, BOTH OF THEM WERE VERY INFORMATIVE AND, UM, AND I, YOU KNOW, I RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS DO FIND SOME TIME TO GO TO ONE OF THOSE SESSIONS.
AND, UM, LASTLY, I JUST WANNA THROW, JUST THROW IT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT TOMORROW THE SCHOOL BOARD IS GONNA BE HAVING THEIR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON THEIR BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR 25.
JAMESON, I HAD MY FIRST MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, UH, THE JOINT SCHOOL BOARD AND BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING.
UM, I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO RELATE MY HOPE THAT HAVING A GOOD VISIBILITY AND COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE TWO BOARDS ON SOME DETAILS EARLY IN THE PROCESS, UH, WE SHOULD AVOID SUBSTANTIAL MISALIGNMENT BETWEEN THE SCHOOL'S BUDGET REQUEST AND THE COUNTY'S AVAILABLE RESOURCES TOO LATE IN THE PROCESS TO DEAL WITH IT EFFECTIVELY.
I ALSO RELATED MY OPINION THAT THE SEARCH FOR EFFICIENCIES NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY 'CAUSE THERE ARE FINANCIAL STRAINS IN ALL CORNERS OF THE COUNTY.
WE ALSO HAD OUR BOARD RETREAT, UH, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND I THINK AS A BOARD WE COALESCED AROUND A SET OF GOALS WITH A HIGH LEVEL OF COMMON GROUND, UH, HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE THAT EVERYONE IS ON BOARD WITH HONING IN ON EFFICIENCY AND GETTING US MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ECONOMICALLY.
UM, I TOO ATTENDED, UM, WITH MR. STAN MEYER AS THE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES AT THE LIAISON MEETING.
AND, UM, THERE WAS GOOD DISCUSSION ON SEVERAL TOPICS.
SO INSTEAD OF GOING INTO GREAT DETAIL AT THIS HOUR, UM, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO WATCH THE VIDEO, UM, DR.
JAMON AND I WITH, UH, MS. MEADOWS AND MS. STAR REVIEW THE, UH, HUMAN RESOURCES BOOK AND, UM, MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE PASSED THIS EVENING ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
AND, UM, HAD A JOINT MEETING WITH THE, UM, BUILDING COMMITTEE FOR THE SCHOOL.
AND, UH, LFK IS ON TRACK OF ACTUALLY AHEAD OF, UM, SCHEDULE AND, UM, ON BUDGET MAYBE,
[02:40:01]
UM, THE FIRST PROJECT IN THE COUNTY THAT HAS BEEN ON BUDGET FOR THE ENTIRE TIME.WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO START, UM, TURNING THE AUDITORIUM AT E WILSON INTO A GYMATORIUM SO THAT THE KIDS THERE HAVE, UM, AN AREA TO ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR GYM CLASSES IN.
AND, UM, I THINK THE QUOTE THAT CAME IN, UM, WE MAY BE ABLE TO COVER THAT COST WITH THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO TAP INTO OFF OF, UM, LFK.
BUT YOU KNOW, UNTIL THAT PROJECT IS DONE, WE DON'T TOUCH THAT MONEY.
UM, WE DID HAVE A ZOOM MEETING WITH AUCOIN'S BROADBAND AND THE CONCERNS OF, UM, GETTING THE FIBER HERE, IT'S TAKEN A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN ALL OF US ANTICIPATED.
AND, UM, WHEN I WENT DOWN FOR LEGISLATIVE DAY, I WAS ABLE TO MEET WITH, UM, DELEGATE GILBERT, DELEGATE OATS, DELEGATE RE REBERT, UH, SENATOR FRENCH AND SENATOR REEVES.
AND I IMPRESSED UPON THEM, UM, HOW VITAL THIS SERVICE IS TO WARREN COUNTY, UH, ESPECIALLY MY AREA.
AND, UM, BUT ALL AREAS OF WARREN COUNTY.
AND, UM, ALSO ATTENDED THE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR TRAINING.
AND I'VE GONE TO THEM EACH YEAR BECAUSE I'VE BEEN CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR EACH YEAR SINCE BEING ON THE BOARD.
AND THIS ONE I THOUGHT WAS EXCEPTIONAL.
A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION, A LOT OF GOOD SPEAKERS.
UM, YOU CAN, YOU CAN ALWAYS LEARN AND, AND MEETING OTHER SUPERVISORS AND SEEING THAT, UH, HOW THEY'RE GETTING THROUGH THE SAME CHALLENGES WE DO.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR, UM, WATER RESCUE TEAM.
UH, RECENTLY THEY HAD TO RESCUE A MAN AND HIS 5-YEAR-OLD SON FROM THE RAISING WATER IN THE SHENANDOAH RIVER.
UM, THE OUTCOME OF THAT WAS POSITIVE, THANK GOODNESS.
BUT, UM, I, I DON'T RECOMMEND I LIVE ON THE RIVER AND I, I TELL YOU THAT WATER'S COLD.
SO, UM, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN, I DON'T ADVISE PUTTING KIDS ON THE RIVER IN THE WINTERTIME BECAUSE THEIR LITTLE BODIES ARE GONNA GET, UM, THEIR TEMPERATURE DROPPED REALLY QUICK AND YOU, YOU LOSE YOUR FEELING IN YOUR HANDS.
I'M SURPRISED ANYONE WAS ABLE TO HOLD ONTO THAT CHILD.
SO, THANKFULLY, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE MY COMMEND OUR FIRE AND RESCUE WATER RESCUE TEAM.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PASSING OF JOHN MARLOWE.
JOHN, UM, WAS A FORMER SUPERVISOR AND A TOWN MAYOR.
HE DEDICATED, UM, HIS LIFE TO THIS COMMUNITY THAT HE LOVED.
AND, UH, HE WAS TRULY A DIGNIFIED GENTLEMAN, IF THERE EVER WAS ONE, JOHN MARLOWE WAS THE EPITOME OF THAT.
AND, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY MY PRAYERS GO OUT FOR JOYCE AND HIS DAUGHTERS, HIS GRANDCHILDREN, AND HIS ENTIRE FAMILY.
THAT MAN IS DEFINITELY GONNA BE MISSED.
DALEY IF HE WOULD PUT THE FLAGS HERE AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER, HALF-MAST IN HIS HONOR.
I THINK HE'S WELL DESERVING OF THAT.
AND THAT'S THE END OF MY REPORT, DR.
UM, WE'RE RAPIDLY APPROACHING 30 MONTHS THAT, UH, JANE MEADOWS HAS BEEN WORKING FOR THE COUNTY OF WARREN, AND IT'S IRONIC THAT WE APPROVED THE, UH, HR HANDBOOK, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS WE ASKED HER TO WORK ON, AND I WANT TO COMMEND HER FOR GETTING THAT DONE.
SHE TOOK PERSEVERANCE WITH THAT TO GET THAT IN THERE.
THE THURSDAY IS THE CHAMBER LEADERSHIP DAY AT WARREN COUNTY.
THEY WILL BE IN THIS ROOM BEGINNING AT NINE O'CLOCK.
UH, MRS. COLORS WILL BE WELCOMING THEM, REMIND YOU THAT YOU'RE ALL WELCOME.
IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO STAND, STOP BY, THEY WILL BE IN THIS BUILDING IN THE MORNING AND THEN THEY WILL GO TO OVER TO 15TH STREET IN THE AFTERNOON.
SO IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, PLEASE STOP BY, UH, THURSDAY, BEGINNING AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
WE WILL COMPLETE OUR PARTNER AGENCIES, EXCEPT FOR THOSE WHO FAILED TO SHOW UP.
UH, WE WILL HAVE THE VIRGINIA REGIONAL TRANSIT AUTHORITY AND THEN WE WILL, FOLLOWED BY PARKS AND RECREATION FEES, FOLLOWED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET, FOLLOWED BY THE AIRPORT, PUBLIC WORKS, SANITARY DISTRICT, AND SANITATION.
ALL MR. BARRY AND MR. FEL, UH, THE BACKUP FOR THAT INCIDENTALLY IS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATION.
YOU WANT TO LOOK AT A COUPLE OF THE OTHERS.
IF WE END UP WITH A DEAD SPACE THAT SOMEBODY'S NOT HERE, WE'RE GONNA PUT ONE OF THEM IN IT.
UH, WEDNESDAY, MARCH THE SIXTH REMINDS YOU THAT TUESDAY THE FIFTH IS ELECTION DAY AND THERE IS NO MEETING.
SO ON WEDNESDAY THE SIXTH WOULD ASK THAT YOU MEET AT FIVE O'CLOCK AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY
[02:45:01]
BUILDING WITH, UM, SHARON AND CARLA TO CONTINUE OUR ADVANCE.AND SOME OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WILL BE ATTENDING ALSO, SO THAT YOU CAN UPDATE THEM AND INTEGRATE THEM WITH YOUR VISION FOR THE COUNTY FOR THE FUTURE.
UM, REGARDING THE AIRPORT, WE RECEIVED A NOTIFICATION TODAY FROM THE AIRPORT COMMISSION THAT WE LOOK FURTHER INTO WHAT OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO TRY SOME SELF, UH, OPERATIONS THERE, KIND OF TALKING A LITTLE BIT WITH WHAT MR. BUTLER WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH MR. KOBO, AND WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH THEM TO PURSUE THOSE OPTIONS.
AND REGARDING HOUSING COMPLAINTS, UH, MR. KO, THE FIRE MARSHAL AND, UH, MR. BEAM, THE HOUSING BUILDING OFFICIAL ARE WORKING ON THOSE.
AND WE'LL HAVE A REPORT BACK TO THE LAY IS ON COMMITTEE IN APRIL.
UH, MR. HAM, I HAVE NO REPORT.
THAT BRINGS US TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR JANUARY 16TH, 2024.
I'VE LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
ANY, UM, ANYTHING THERE THAT NEEDED TO BE CORRECTED? ADDITIONS, DELETIONS? AND IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED? SO MOVED.
THAT BRINGS US BACK TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT
[D. Public Comment Period (60 Minute Time Limit) 2]
PERIOD.AND I THINK NO ONE WE HAD FINISHED.
SO DOES ANYONE WANNA SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? YES, SIR.
YOU CAN COME UP YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS OR DISTRICT YOU LIVE IN, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
AND, UM, MADAM CHAIR, SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION EARLIER.
MY FRIENDS CALL ME PARSON BROWN.
AND I'M FROM BENTONVILLE AND MY MOTHER DEDICATED MANY YEARS, UH, TO EDUCATION IN WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS AS A TEACHER AND A READING SPECIALIST.
SHE NOT ONLY TAUGHT ME TO READ, BUT INSTILLED A PASSION FOR LITERACY AND LEARNING AND GROWING UP WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT THE PUBLIC LIBRARY, SAMUEL'S PUBLIC LIBRARY.
UH, WHILE SHE WAS EARNING HER DEGREES IN A WAY, WE KIND OF WENT TO COLLEGE TOGETHER.
AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR HAVING BEEN IMMERSED IN THAT MODEST BUT INCLUSIVE AND SAFE ENVIRONMENT.
AND IT DEFINITELY HELPED SHAPE MY PURVIEW AS AN ADULT.
SO, DESPITE, UH, THE FACT THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING OUT OF STATE AND ABROAD FOR SEVERAL YEARS, I'VE PAID ATTENTION TO LOCAL ISSUES.
UM, AND I'VE MAINTAINED A PERMANENT ADDRESS IN WARREN COUNTY, UM, SO THAT I CAN SEND HOME MY VOTE.
LAST YEAR'S UGLY DEMONSTRATION OF HATRED AND BIGOTRY, DISCRIMINATION AND CENSORSHIP AND UTTER BUFFOONERY IN MY HOMETOWN WAS HEARTBREAKING AND EMBARRASSING.
UM, AND WITNESSING THE RISE OF AN EXTREME GROUP BULLYING FOR CONTROL WAS DISHEARTENING.
BUT THE EMPOWERING RESPONSE FROM THE PEOPLE OF WARREN COUNTY AND SUPPORTERS OF SAMUELS PUBLIC LIBRARY SHOWCASING BIPARTISANSHIP AND GRASSROOTS ORGANIZING WAS INSPIRING.
HOWEVER, OUR LIBRARY CONTINUES TO BE UNDER ATTACK, AND I JUST WISH TO EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF PROTECTING THE LIBRARY'S ASSETS AND AUTONOMY REGARDING DONATIONS, ALLOWING IT TO FUNCTION FOR THE BETTERMENT OF EVERYONE IN WARREN COUNTY.
GIVEN PAST EVENTS, I WOULD BEHOOVE SAMUEL'S LIBRARY TO COLLECT AND ACCEPT AS MANY DONATIONS AS POSSIBLE, EVEN ESTABLISH A SAFETY FUND FOR FUTURE CHALLENGES FROM MALICIOUS MEDDLERS.
SO ONCE AGAIN, I SEE OUR PUBLIC LIBRARY EMBATTLED, AND INSTEAD OF DISCUSSING WHAT SHOULD BE DONE FOR THE LIBRARY, THERE ARE CONTINUED DEBATES OVER ALLOCATION OF FUNDS, TRIVIAL MECHANISMS, AND ATTEMPTS TO DEGRADE THE INSTITUTION'S OVERALL QUALITY.
THIS IMPACTS THE EMOTIONAL WELLBEING OF OUR CITIZENS, BOTH ADULTS AND YOUTH.
AND RISKS BECOMING AN EMBARRASSMENT OF AN INTERNATIONAL STANDARD, LIKE AN INTERNATIONAL HEADLINE.
[02:50:01]
TO BE A VIABLE ALLY TO THE LIBRARY AND SUPPORTERS.LEAVE SAMUEL'S PUBLIC LIBRARY ALONE, FULLY FUND THE LIBRARY WITHOUT UNDERMINING ITS LEADERSHIP.
ALLOW THE LIBRARY TO UTILIZE DONATIONS FROM ITS SUPPORTERS, HOW THEIR LEADERSHIP DEEMS NECESSARY.
KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF OUR BUDGET AND YOUR BANS OFF OUR BOOKS, PLEASE.
NO, YOU, I KNOW THERE'S ONLY A FEW, BUT WE, WE'D ALLOW POLLY.
WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? ANYONE ELSE? SECOND, THIRD, AND FINAL.
WELL, WE'LL FINISH THAT OFF FOR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD THEN.
AND THAT LEADS US TO ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED.