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OKAY.GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE FEBRUARY 8TH, UH, BUDGET WORK SESSION.
[A. Virginia Regional Transit - Budget Request]
THE AGENDA IS THE VIRGINIA REGIONAL TRANSIT.AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND BEING AN EARLY BIRD IS MUCH APPRECIATED.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND TALK WITH EVERYONE A LITTLE BIT.
I THINK MR. DALEY SAID JUST KIND OF REFRESH EVERYBODY AS TO WHAT THE WARREN CONNECTOR DOES AND FOR SOME OF THE NEW MEMBERS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS I HAVE WITH ME, JASON OLIVIA.
HE IS OUR CFO FOR VIRGINIA REGIONAL TRANSIT, AND I BROUGHT MR. LARRY AMBRY AGAIN.
YOU'VE SEEN LARRY SMILING FACE, I'M SURE HE'S THE OPERATION SUPERVISOR FOR THIS AREA.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
THE WARREN COUNTY CONNECTOR PROFILE, LEMME GIVE YOU A PROFILE OF WHAT THE BUS DOES.
ONE BUS OPERATES MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, TWO SHIFTS.
ONE SHIFT OPERATES FROM FIVE 30 TO 1145.
THEY TAKE A BREAK MIDDAY FOR TWO HOURS, AND THE SECOND SHIFT BEGINS AT 1 45 AND ENDS AT 5 25 MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
PREVIOUSLY, IT OPERATED FROM 6 0 5 TO 1205 AND HAD A THREE HOUR BREAK, AND THEN CAME BACK IN AT THREE O'CLOCK AND WENT TO 7:00 PM AFTER TALKING WITH A LOT OF OUR PASSENGERS, WE FOUND OUT WE WERE MISSING THE PEOPLE GOING TO WORK.
THAT'S WHY WE STARTED EARLIER.
AND THEN A LOT OF OUR FOLKS WHO WERE RIDING THE VEHICLE TO GO OUT TO WALMART, UH, TARGET VALLEY HEALTH, THEY WERE SITTING OUT THERE FOR THREE HOURS WAITING FOR US TO RETURN.
SO BY DOING SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE ACTUAL SERVICE HOURS, WE COMPRESSED THAT DOWN.
AND HONESTLY, I THINK IT'S BEEN A BOON.
UM, IN MARCH OF 2023, WE INITIATED A NEW BROCHURE.
WE GOT A LOT OF INPUT FROM A LOT OF STAFF, OBVIOUSLY MR. DALEY AND HIS STAFF WITH THE EARLIER START FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED TO GET TO WORK, CLOSING THE THREE HOUR MIDDAY BREAK TO TWO HOURS, WE KEPT IT TWO TRIPS OUT THERE TO THE LAUREL RIDGE FOR THE STUDENTS.
AND IT ENABLED US TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT BETTER CONNECTIVITY TO THE FRONT ROYAL TROLLEY WHERE WE HAD ONLY CONNECTED WITH THEM ABOUT FOUR TIMES A DAY.
NOW WE CONNECT WITH THE TROLLEY EIGHT TIMES A DAY, SEVERAL TIMES AT AT MARTIN SHOPPING CENTER.
AND THEN THE BALANCE OF THE OTHER TIMES AT DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES, WHICH IS A KEY DESTINATION FOR BOTH THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY RIDERS.
A LOT OF PROJECTS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, I THINK THE CHAIRMAN WAS CHAIRMAN WAS ASKING ME, WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON A LOT? UH, PLANS.
WERE WORKING ON A SURVEY IN A HEAVY POPULATED AREA IN YOUR COUNTY.
AND UH, I JUST FINALIZED THAT TODAY AND WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD AND I'LL GIVE YOU A BRIEFING ON THAT IN A, IN A COUPLE MONTHS ON WHERE WE'RE HEADED WITH THAT.
WE'RE EXPLORING ADDITIONAL STOPS AT WARREN MEMORIAL HOSPITAL CURRENTLY ONLY RECEIVES SERVICE FOUR TIMES A DAY, AND WE NEED TO INCREASE THAT.
WE NEED TO MOVE THAT TO MAYBE SIX OR EIGHT PER DAY, WHETHER OR NOT WE MODIFY OUR WARREN COUNTY ROUTE TO DO IT, OR WE, OR WE MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS WITH THE TROLLEY AND SOME CONNECTIVITY.
ALL OF OUR BUSES THAT WE HAVE ARE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE AND YOU HAVE A DE DISABLED POPULATION THAT RIGHT BEFORE YOUR EYES IS GROWING.
AND WE'RE SEEING THE APPLICATIONS COMING IN, WE'RE SEEING THE CALLS COME IN AND THEY NOW KNOW THAT YOU HAVE ACCESSIBLE BUSES SO THEY CAN GET TO VALLEY HEALTH AND DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS AND DO SHOPPING, YOU KNOW, HAVE A LIFE BASICALLY.
WE HAVE PURCHASED, WE ORDERED AND PURCHASED A PASSENGER BUS.
WE'VE GOT A NEW BUS THAT IS COMING TO YOU AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK WITH MR. DALEY AND GET SOME REALLY NI NICE GRAPHICS ON THAT BUS THAT HELP IDENTIFY THE WARREN COUNTY AREA.
UH, THAT SHOULD BE HERE, I GUESS IN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS.
WE ALSO, BEHIND THE SCENES, HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE TOWN.
THE TOWN AS YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED IT BEFORE, THEY'VE GOT THE RUN THAT GOES TO THE AT TRAIL.
AND IT USED TO RUN FROM JULY THROUGH OCTOBER.
MOST OF YOUR AT TRAIL PEOPLE NEED THE SERVICE FROM APRIL TO OCTOBER.
SO WE INCREASED THAT WINDOW OF GOING UP TO THE ET TRAIL FROM APRIL THROUGH OCTOBER.
WELL, GUESS WHAT HAPPENED? AREA STUDENTS SAID, IS THERE ANY CHANCE YOU COULD PUT A BUS STOP AT SMITHSONIAN? AND I HAD NO IDEA THAT THAT WAS THERE.
SO I GUESS THERE MAY BE SOME INTERNSHIPS OR SOME FIELD WORK THAT'S GOING ON.
SO WE'RE WORKING NOW WITH THE SMITHSONIAN ON GETTING SOME CONNECTIVITY UP THERE, WHICH WILL BE HUGE TO WHAT WE DO, MORE RESIDENTS.
AND UH, UM, I THINK IT'D BE AWESOME.
WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE WITH THE COUNTY SERVICE? LAST TIME I WAS HERE, WE NEED TO DESIGN THE GRAPHICS FOR THE NEW BUS.
I WANT TO INCREASE THE, UH, SERVICE TO THE WARREN MEMORIAL.
I WANNA WORK WITH THE BOARD AND MR. DALEY ON DESIGNING SOME REALLY COOL SIGNS AND GETTING THEM OUT THERE.
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THEM IN PLACES THAT PEOPLE CAN CONNECT WITH IT.QR CODES WHERE THEY COULD SEE WHERE THE BUS IS.
'CAUSE YOU DO HAVE GPS TRACKERS ON YOUR BUS.
SO AT ANY TIME YOU COULD SEE PHYSICALLY WHERE THIS BUS IS OUT.
AND I WANT TO INCREASE THE PRESENCE OF OUR CONNECTOR WITH THE VIRGINIA BREEZE.
THE VIRGINIA BREEZE CHOSE, UM, THE WARREN COUNTY OUT THERE AT WALMART AS A CONNECTION POINT WITH OUR SERVICE.
AND WE NEED TO REALLY, WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
THEY GOT AN 11:45 AM SOUTHBOUND THAT GOES TO JMU AND THEY GOT A 12 O'CLOCK NORTHBOUND THAT GOES TO DULLES.
AND WE'RE STARTING TO GET THE CALLS, ARE YOU GETTING IT? HOW CAN WE CONNECT WITH THE VIRGINIA BREEZE? SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.
WE, WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER AS FAR AS MARKETING.
UM, LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I THINK, UM, UM, CHAIRMAN OR SUPERVISOR MARTIN ASKED ME ABOUT PICKUPS AND LOCATIONS.
SO WE ACTUALLY DID A LITTLE DRAFT AND I'D BE HAPPY TO REPORT THAT THE TOP FIVE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE ARE GETTING ON AND OFF THAT WERE REPORTED WERE WALMART, DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES, TARGET AND 14TH STREET IN THE HOTEL AREA.
AND THEN THE SECOND TIER GROUP WAS INTERESTING AS WELL.
VALLEY HEALTH BEING ONE NATURE TOUCH AT THE INDUSTRIAL SITE, LAUREL RIDGE, LOWE'S, CISCO, AND RWS.
SO WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE PLAYERS IN THIS GAME, AND IT'S A MATTER OF US GOING OUT THERE AND SHAKING HANDS, TELLING 'EM WHAT WE DO, GETTING 'EM TO BUY INTO WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, SELLING THE SERVICE, SHOWING 'EM WHAT AT, YOU KNOW, THE ADVANTAGE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE, WHETHER IT BE TO GET EMPLOYEES THERE, UH, OR BETTER YET, AS I TOLD CHAIRMAN WOMAN, START FROM GROUND ZERO AND TEACHING OUR YOUTH HOW TO USE THIS SERVICE, WHETHER IT BE AT THE SMITHSONIAN OR GETTING INTO THE SCHOOLS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE PRIDE OURSELVES AT, EDUCATING THE PUBLIC.
AND THE BETTER THAT THEY KNOW ABOUT THE SERVICE, THE MORE THEY'LL USE IT AND THE MORE THEY'LL GIVE US SUGGESTIONS ON WHERE WE NEED TO GO.
YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, IF YOU HAVE ANY DIRECT QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SERVICE, I'M HERE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY DIRECT QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET I BROUGHT JASON AS WELL WITH ME.
HE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN THAT.
BUT IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE COMING BEFORE EVERYBODY.
I'M GOOD FRIENDS WITH MR. DALEY.
I THINK THE SERVICE CONTINUES TO GROW.
UM, I WAS MENTIONING TO PHIL THE OTHER DAY, UM, AND I CAN GIVE YOU THOSE NUMBERS, BUT WARREN COUNTY FRONT ROYAL CAN PRIDE THEMSELVES ON SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT, REALLY IMPORTANT.
DURING COVID, WE ALL READ IN A NEWSPAPER DROP IN, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT DROPS IN RIDERSHIP AND WHATNOT.
WARREN COUNTY FRONT ROYAL FOR FOUR CONSECUTIVE YEARS HAVE CONTINUED TO SHOW INCREASES.
AND THAT IS, DESPITE SOCIAL DISTANCING, 50% CAPACITY, SIX FOOT DISTANCING AND WHATNOT, YOU'VE CONTINUED TO BE LEADERS.
AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE RIDDEN THE BUS, THAT HAVE WORN A MASK, THAT HAVE BEEN RESPECTFUL OF ALL THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE TO BE COMMENDED FOR THAT, AS WELL AS MY DRIVING STAFF WHO'VE DONE A MARVELOUS JOB DURING THIS PERIOD.
QUESTIONS FOR ANY, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
AND, AND, UH, BY NO MEANS AM I, AM I A
THE STATE V-D-R-P-T IS WORKING WITH VIRGINIA REGIONAL TRANSIT.
ALL THE, ALL THE RURAL CARRIERS, EVEN THE URBAN CARRIERS.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME INITIATIVE THEY'D LIKE TO PUT FORTH, UH, A CONSULTANT GROUP TO COME OUT AND TALK WITH EVERYBODY AND SEE WHAT'S READILY AVAILABLE.
SO THE STATE AND VRT WE'RE BEING AGGRESSIVE WITH THAT? YES, SIR.
I, I JUST SEE WHAT THE TRENDS ARE.
AND, UH, SO DO YOU ALSO MAKE, UM, UNSCHEDULED STOPS, SAY LIKE YOU'RE DRIVING ALONG AND SOMEBODY JUST RINGS THE BELL OR PULLS A CORD, OR, WE HAVE THE
AND EVENTUALLY I THINK I'D LIKE TO GET IT DOWN WHERE WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THOSE STOPS ARE.
WE'VE IDENTIFIED THEM WITH LIGHTING, A DA ACCESSIBILITY, A PROPER PLACE TO PUT THE WHEELCHAIR DOWN IF WE NEED TO USE THAT.
UM, AND, AND TAKE IT FROM THERE.
RIGHT NOW IT IS PART PARTIAL TO THE SAME, BUT I REALLY, THERE'S SO SEVERAL AREAS, AND IT'S FUNNY, I CAN LIST YOU TOWN OF ORANGE, TOWN OF CULPEPPER, TOWN OF WARRINGTON.
WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE IN THE PAST IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A FLAG
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DOWN, BUT A FLAG DOWN IN SOME CASES TAKES YOU ONLY FOUR BLOCKS AND YOU'VE STOPPED FOUR TIMES.AND YOU GOTTA SAY, YOU KNOW, DO I REALLY NEED TO STOP FOUR TIMES IN THIS LITTLE SHORT WINDOW OF TIME? SO WE'RE GONNA WORK ON THAT.
AND, AND I JUST WANTED TO, TO ALSO, UH, VERIFY THERE'S NO CHARGE FOR THIS.
AND OKAY, MOVING FORWARD, I THINK IT'S GONNA STILL SAY THE SAME, WHERE THERE'LL BE FREE FARE, NOBODY'S REALLY RAISED ANYTHING.
UM, ANYWAY, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
WELL, I JUST THINK OF, YOU KNOW, FOLKS LIKE MY DAUGHTER WHO'S, YOU KNOW, 25 AND EVEN THOUGH, UH, SHE LIVES DOWNTOWN AND HER, WHERE SHE WORKS IS LIKE TWO DOORS DOWN FROM WHERE SHE LIVES.
SHE LIVES IN AN APARTMENT DOWN THERE.
UH, YOU KNOW, IF SHE WERE TO GET ANOTHER JOB SOMEWHERE ELSE, THIS WOULD BE A A, A GREAT SERVICE YOU COULD ABSOLUTELY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.
AND I THINK OUR PASSENGERS HAVE, I THINK THEY'RE VERY GRACIOUS OF THAT AND VERY RESPECTFUL OF THAT AS WELL.
I THINK, UH, LARRY WAS MENTIONING A STORY THE OTHER DAY WHERE SOMEBODY WAS GETTING ON AND MULTIPLE PEOPLE AND THEY WANTED TO PUT MONEY IN.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY WANNA KEEP IT AFLOAT.
THEY WANNA KEEP THINGS MOVING.
UP FRONT, THEY CAN GIVE ME THE MONEY.
OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE ONE.
SO, UH, WHAT ARE THE FEES FOR RIDERSHIP? I BEG YOUR PARDON? HOW MUCH DOES A RIDER PAY? IT'S FREE RIGHT NOW.
I, YOU GO OUT AS FAR AS RSW AND I KNOW YOU NEED MORE DENSE AREA AND OF COURSE I'M SOUTH.
WE'RE NOT AS DENSE OUT THERE, BUT WHAT, HOW WOULD WE SURVEY TO SEE THE, THE NUMBERS TO SEE IN THAT AREA IF THERE IS A NEED? AND I, I WOULD SAY DEPENDING ON, HE COULD BE EIGHT TO 10 MILES.
UM, JASON, I WAS TALKING TO JASON ABOUT THIS, YOUR LAST TRANSIT DEVELOPMENT PLAN, I BELIEVE IT WAS 20 15, 20 17, EVERY FIVE YEARS, THE STATE WANTS A TRANSIT DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
WE ARE ON THE BOOKS TO DO ANOTHER TRANSIT DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR ALL THE AREAS THAT WE SERVE.
I ACTUALLY KNOW YOUR TRANSIT DEVELOPMENT PLAN LIKE THE BACK OF MY HAND.
'CAUSE I LIVED IT FOR THE 20 YEARS I WAS HERE DOING IT.
UM, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I WANT THEM, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING JASON ABOUT.
I REALLY WANT THE TDP TO REFLECT THE CURRENT STATE AND WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHERE THE COMMUNITY HAS GROWN.
AND I REALLY DO BELIEVE WE HAVE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP HERE.
I HAVE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH MR. DALEY.
I THINK WE COULD REALLY NAIL DOWN IN ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS AND PROJECTING, I DID FIND OUT, AS LONG AS IT'S IN OUR TRANSIT DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WE CAN MIGRATE TOWARD THE FUNDING OF THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
IT'S WHEN IT'S NOT IN THE TRANSIT DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT STATES SAYS NO, NO, IT WASN'T IN YOUR TDP.
SO I, I WILL ASSURE YOU THAT I WILL TALK TO MR. DAILEY, LET HIM KNOW WHEN THE CONSULTANTS WILL COME IN HERE TO DO THE TDP.
WELL, YOU KNOW HOW YOU CAN BUILD THE RIDERSHIP IN THE SOUTH, MAKE THE STOP THE BENTONVILLE ICE CREAM PLACE.
WELL, THAT MOVED A FEW MILES UP THE ROAD.
IT'S THE LITTLE FARM MARKET THERE WITH IT NOW TOO.
IT'D ALL GO PAST BEN, SO THEY COULD STOP IN BENTONVILLE ON THE WAY.
BUT, UM, I, I JUST, YOU KNOW, WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, GIVE THAT AT LEAST ASKED IF THE OPPORTUNITY IS THERE WITH AN UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE NOT DENSE.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF, UM, THREE 40 OF, UM, UM, THERE AT, UH, ASBURY.
THERE IS THAT SUBDIVISION THERE.
BUT, UM, I, I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M DOING MY CONSTITUENTS WITHOUT ASKING THAT QUESTION FOR HIM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. SANDMEYER? UH, YEAH, MY ONLY QUESTION WAS, UM, IN YOUR, FIRST OF ALL, CAN YOU HEAR ME CLEARLY? YES, SIR.
IN YOUR, UH, IN YOUR COVER LETTER, UM, IT MENTIONED THAT THE, UH, THE RATE PER SERVICE HOUR HAD GONE UP, I THINK $3 AND 50 CENTS, WHICH BY MY MATH, THAT WAS PROBABLY ABOUT 5%.
UH, AND IT SAID THE DRIVERS FOR THAT WERE, UH, INFLATION AND, AND FUEL LABOR, UH, I THINK PARTS MAINTENANCE, INSURANCE.
UM, I WAS JUST WONDERING, FUEL I THINK HAS BEEN RELATIVELY FLAT FOR THE PAST YEAR, UM, AND POSTED A DROP IN THE PRIOR YEAR.
SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, UM, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THE BIGGEST DRIVERS? LIKE IS LABOR THE BIGGEST DRIVER THERE OR IS IT PARTS? I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT.
I'M THE FINANCE MANAGER FOR VRT.
UM, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE INCREASE, WE'RE, SINCE WE'RE WE'RE FORECASTING, YOU KNOW, A YEAR AND A HALF OUT, TWO YEARS OUT, WE, WE DO HAVE TO, TO LOOK AT THE TRENDS AND, AND FUEL SPECIFICALLY IS SOMETHING THAT IS, IS VERY DIFFICULT TO TREND BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN RELATIVELY FLAT
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FOR A LITTLE WHILE, BUT WE COULD EVEN LOOK SIX MONTHS AGO IT WAS PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, 30 CENTS HIGHER THAN IT WAS NOW.SO IT'S, WE KIND OF HAVE TO, IT'S NOT AS MUCH WITH THE FUEL.
IT'S DEFINITELY WITH, WITH LABOR, UH, AS INFLATION.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE PROBABLY THREE TO 4% JUST RIGHT THERE WITH LABOR.
BUT WE'RE ALSO SEEING VEHICLE REPAIRS, VEHICLE SUPPLIES, UH, COSTS LIKE THAT ARE, ARE CONTINUING TO INCREASE AND THEY'RE INCREASING AT A HIGHER TREND THAN EVEN INFLATION IS.
IF YOU LOOK AT INFLATION BEING, UH, SOMETHING EQUAL TO, LET'S SAY THREE OR 4%, WE'RE SEEING THAT VEHICLE REPAIRS, UH, SUPPLIES, THINGS LIKE THAT ARE IN THE SEVEN TO 8%.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRENDING HIGHER RIGHT NOW.
SO WE ANTICIPATE THE INFLATION KIND OF GOING FOR ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO.
SO THAT WOULD MEAN THE COSTS PROBABLY REMAIN THAT HIGH FOR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ANOTHER TWO OR THREE YEARS BEFORE THEY START TO COME BACK DOWN TO WHERE THEY WERE.
UH, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE, THAT'S PART OF THE INCREASE.
AND I ALSO WANNA SAY THAT YEAH, THE, ON THE COVER LETTER, WE DO SHOW THAT THE $3 AND 50 CENTS INCREASE PER HOUR, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE TOTAL INCREASE.
BUT YOU AS THE LOCALITY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TOTAL INCREASE BECAUSE IT IS A RURAL 53 11 THROUGH THE FEDERAL GRANT SYSTEM.
AND THEN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA COVERS UH, 18%.
SO THE LOCALITY IS ACTUALLY ONLY RESPONSIBLE FOR 32%.
WHICH OF THAT THREE 50 IS SOMETHING LIKE A DOLLAR 15 PER HOUR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[B. Parks and Recreation - Fee Schedule]
FEE SCHEDULE.SO THIS IS NOT DONE, IT'S ONE OF MY HOMEWORKS THIS WEEKEND.
THIS IS A DRAFT YOU CAN LOOK AT TO SEE WHAT YOU THINK NEEDS TO COMPLETE.
SO I'LL GIVE YOU ONE OF THESE TOMORROW, JOHN.
UH, JOE IS GONNA BE WORKING WITH THE BUSINESSES WHO USED THE TRANSIT SYSTEM TO TALK ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO.
THEY USED TO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR $70,000 COST.
AND WE'RE GONNA GO BACK AND SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME OF THOSE TO RE-CONTRIBUTE A LITTLE BIT.
BUT RIGHT NOW HE'S GOT AN EVICTION TO WORRY ABOUT.
HE'S GOT SQUATTERS ON OUR PROPERTY.
WE'RE GONNA BE TAG TEAMING, UH, THIS, UH, THIS EVENING.
MADAM CHAIR AND THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
WE WERE FIRST GONNA TALK ABOUT OUR, OUR FEE SCHEDULE, UM, FOR BOTH, UM, USES OF THE FACILITIES AS WELL AS SOME LEASES FOR THE, UH, UH, LEAGUES THAT WE HAVE.
UM, SO MOVING FORWARD, UM, WE HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION HERE.
DO WE HAVE THIS BEFORE YOU GO ANY FURTHER? YES, SIR.
I JUST WANTED TO FIND OUT WHEN, UM, UH, WHEN YOU HAVE A, UH, AN ENTITY THAT WANTS TO, TO RENT AN AREA, AND THE REASON I'M ASKING IS 'CAUSE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, I TAKE KARATE WITH MY SON AND WE'RE OVER AT UH, LFK NOW BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY CENTER WAS, WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, REPURPOSED.
SO THE, DO YOU ALL RECEIVE THE, THE, THE FUNDS FOR THAT? OR DOES THAT GO TO THE PUBLIC SCHOOL OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? YOU MEAN AS FAR AS A A, A PARTNERSHIPS? NO, A GROUP.
IS IS HE ASKING? SO IF YOU RENTED OUT LFK, IT GOES TO THE SCHOOLS.
YEAH, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN, UM, BASE, THEIR OWN FEES THAT THE FACILITIES THAT THEY USE AND LEATHER OTHER ENTITIES, PRIVATE AND OR PUBLIC USE OF FACILITIES TO SOME DEGREE.
IF YOU REMEMBER WHERE YOUR OFFICE USED TO BE, I, THAT'S WHERE I TOOK KARATE AT.
AND THE, UH, AND SINCE THAT'S BEEN REPURPOSED OF THAT, THEY, UM, WE, WE NOW GO OVER TO LFK MM-HMM.
AND, UH, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU ALL RECEIVED IT OR IF THAT WOULD GOES TO PUBLIC SCHOOL, BUT IT GOES TO THE PUBLIC SCHOOL.
YEAH, IT GOES TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS, CORRECT.
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OKAY.I'M GONNA DO SOME READING AND THEN SOME ADLIB SOME OF THE INFORMATION FIRST HERE FOR US.
UM, TO BASICALLY THE BREAKDOWN OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
THE INFORMATION THAT'S THERE IN THE SCREEN OR THE SLIDE IS, UH, YESTERDAY'S DEPARTMENT.
WE RESTRUCTURED AND CONSOLIDATED ALONG WITH SEVERAL COUNTY DEPARTMENTS IN 2020 2 23 MANAGED, UM, A MAINTENANCE DIVISION THAT WAS SHIFTED OUT OF THE DEPARTMENT ALONG WITH FUNDING PARTICIPATION IN PROGRAMS AND EVENTS.
UM, AS WE ALL KNOW, WERE GREATLY IMPACTED AT COVID-19 BACK IN 2020.
UM, TODAY'S DEPARTMENT SERVED BY 13 INSTRUCTORS, 30 PART-TIME AND SEASONAL STAFF.
UM, FIVE FULL-TIME, UM, STAFF MEMBERS EVALUATING PROGRAM FACILITIES SUCCESS AND VIABILITY IN WARREN COUNTY.
UH, MANAGES THE USE AND ACCESS TO 13 PARKS, 15, UM, PICNIC SHELTERS, 25 ATHLETIC FIELDS AND COURTS FOR COMMUNITY FACILITIES.
UM, WE PROVIDE 250 PROGRAMS ANNUALLY SERVING 1,477 PLUS ALL THE PATRONS THAT WALK IN AND DRIVE IN AND USE THE, USE OUR PARK FACILITIES.
AND WE'RE PARTNERS WITH SEVEN COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, UM, THAT OFFER AND OR PARTICIPATE IN FIVE, UH, SPECIAL EVENTS EACH YEAR PROVIDING COMMUNITY EDUCATION, UM, AND ENRICHMENT.
AND TOMORROW DEPARTMENT, UH, IS FOCUSING ON OFFERING ACCESSIBLE PROGRAMMING AND EDUCATION TO RESIDENTS FOCUSING ON PRESCHOOL, YOUTH AND SENIOR PROGRAMMING CONTINUES TO EVALUATE AND INTRODUCE NEW PROGRAM AND, EXCUSE ME, TO INTRODUCE NEW AND IMPROVE EXISTING PROGRAMMING AND EVENTS, INFLECTING OF COMMUNITY NEEDS.
AND THEN FINALLY, COMM UH, CONTINUES TO INCREASE COMMUNICATION AND PROMOTION WITH THE USE OF DIGITAL CAMPAIGNS AND ADVERTISING.
AND OUR PROPOSED FEE SCHEDULE LEAGUE PIECES.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE FIRST ONE IS, UM, UH, USER, USER FIELDS, USER FEE SCHEDULE, EXCUSE ME, FOR FIELD AND FACILITIES APPLIES TO INDIVIDUALS SEEKING, UH, TO RENT FACILITIES FOR SINGLE AND OR INFANT USE LEAGUE LEASE TERMS AND FEES, UM, ARE OUTLINED IN REGULAR SEASONAL LEASES, BOTH USER FEES AND LEAGUE.
UM, LEASE FEES ARE INCLUDED TO FACILITY INCOME AND ARE PRESENTED FOR BOARD APPROVAL.
AND LASTLY, UM, PROGRAM FEES ARE EDUCATE, ARE EVALUATED AND INDIVIDUAL BASIS, UH, AND DESIGNED TO OFFSET EXPENDITURES.
BASICALLY LEADING INTO THIS, UH, NEXT AREAS IS THAT THIS PAST YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, UH, REVIEW ALL OUR RENTAL FEES, OUR FIELD FACILITY AND, AND LEAGUE USAGE.
AND WE DID A COST ANALYSIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND THE 2024 PARKS AND RECREATION FEES, UM, ARE BASED ON THIS, UH, RESULTS OF THIS, UH, ANALYSIS.
AND THESE PROPOSED FEES WERE, UM, BASICALLY, UH, PRESENTED TO THE ORANGE COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION BACK IN NOVEMBER, 2023.
AND WE RECEIVED FULL ENDORSEMENT.
AND I'LL JUST JUST HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE CHANGES.
UM, THE INFORMATION THAT WE PASSED OUT THE EVENING, UM, WHAT WE'VE BASICALLY, UH, CHANGED OUT.
THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, FEE INCREASES FOR PARKS AND REC, PARKS AND RECREATION APARTMENT FACILITY AND FIELD RENTALS IN CONSIDERATION OF THE DIRECT AND INDIRECT COSTS OF FACILITY MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION.
INCREASED AVAILABILITY FOR PICNIC SHELTER, RESERVATION OPTIONS INCLUDE RESERVATIONS FOR HALF OR WHOLE DAY.
WE FOUND THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT, UH, FILLED OUT THE APPLICATION WERE ONLY USING THE FACILITY FOR FOUR HOURS.
SO THAT OPENED UP THE DOOR FOR POTENTIALLY ADDITIONAL INCOME.
I THINK WE AVERAGED OR HAD ABOUT $20,000 IN REVENUE THIS PAST YEAR FOR SHELTER RESERVATIONS.
UM, WE, UH, WE ELIMINATED THE OPTION OF 30 PLUS RENTAL PACKAGES OPTIONS, UM, AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER THAT JUST WASN'T BEING USED.
THE ONES WE HAVE WERE, I THINK WE'RE CHANGING, CHANGING THAT OPTION.
A CHILD PUNCH PASS OPTION HAS BEEN ADDED.
UM, THE ADDITIONAL PASS OPTION HAS BEEN ELIMINATED AND THAT WAS AT THE POOL AND ELIGIBILITY FOR 50% NON-PROFIT DISCOUNTS.
THERE'S QUITE A GROUPS OUT THERE AND WE JUST DIDN'T FEEL THE NEED NEEDED TO BE THERE.
UH, IN REVERSE WE DECIDED TO, UM, CONTINUE, UH, GIVING A, A DISCOUNT TO THE YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS.
UM, UM, WITHIN THE AREA IT WAS 50% WHEN WE CHANGED THAT TO 40%.
IF YOU CAN, VERY QUICKLY, BEFORE I HAVE TIFFANY TALK ABOUT THE GREEN INFORMATION, UM, CAN YOU FLIP INTO YOUR BUDGET AREA FOR YOUR, YOUR, UM, REVENUES?
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YOU TALKING ABOUT THE HANDOUT OR THE OTHER REVENUE SHEET? UNDER PERMIT? UNDER RECREATION FEES.TALKING ABOUT EITHER ONE OF THESE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME, WELL, WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO THAT, BUT I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA TIE IN BECAUSE I JUST TALKED ABOUT THE BREAKDOWN AND THINGS.
WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE FEES AND THERE'S QUESTIONS AND SO FORTH, BUT, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GET BACK TO THAT.
SO LITTLE, IT'S A LITTLE SMALL.
I'M JUST GONNA REALLY RECONCENTRATE AND IN TIFFANY'S ASSISTANCE.
UM, IN, IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR, THE THE CURRENT ADOPTED, UM, 2024 FEES.
THEY WERE OUR BEST PROJECTIONS.
WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS PAST YEAR.
UM, WE HAD TIME AGAIN TO ANALYZE LIKE OUR PROGRAMMING AND ALL THE FUNDS AND, UM, REVENUE THAT ARE COMING IN.
AND WE WANTED TO BE A LOT MORE ACCURATE.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCES, IT'S, IT IS LOWER, BUT I THINK WE'RE WE'RE CERTAIN, CERTAIN MORE ON BOARD OR ON TOP OF THE ACTUAL, UM, TOTAL PROJECTIONS REQUEST OF, OF TWO THOU $229,000.
NOW OF COURSE IF WE EXCEED THAT, THAT'S EVEN BETTER.
BUT WE WANT TO BE FAIRLY, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF, UH, REVENUE THAT WE UH, THAT WE HAD TAKEN IN, IN THESE VARIOUS, UM, DESCRIPTIONS HERE BROKEN DOWN.
SO YES, I SEE PARTS TO DIRECT FEES.
SO LAST YEAR OF THIS YEAR MM-HMM.
AND SO I'M MOVING OVER HERE TO, TO 25 MM-HMM.
UH, WELL ACTUALLY NOT NECESSARILY.
I THINK WHAT I, WHAT I WAS STATING IS THAT WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT BEFORE, WE KIND OF A BEST EDUCATED GUESS AT THE 200 AND, UM, 68,000 THIS LAST YEAR.
WE HAD, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ABLE TO ANALYZE THE REVENUES COMING INTO THE BREAKDOWNS AND THESE, AND LIKE I SAID, THESE DESCRIPTIONS AND I THINK WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO CORRECTLY WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT REVENUE WILL BE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, WE WANTED, WE, WE, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T WANT TO BE UNDER IF WELL POSSIBLY WANT TO KIND OF PROJECT WHERE WE WERE GONNA BE.
BUT ANYTHING ABOVE THAT WOULD BE A BENEFIT BASICALLY FOR REVENUE.
WE TALKING ABOUT THE, WHERE IS THAT WHERE IT STARTS UP THERE? 3 2 68.
IT UP LOGO UP PACKED THIS WHOLE THING.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS FISCAL YEAR 23 COURSE WE KNOW YET THE BUDGET COMPLET, BUT IT WAS UH, 307,000.
WHEN THAT WE ARE, WE'RE GETTING, I'M SORRY.
WE'RE HAVING THREE CONVERSATIONS
SO WE NEED TO THINK, PULL IT IN.
MS. COOK, ARE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR COMMENT? YEP.
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UM, LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENCE THAT'S, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MR. COOK, THAT 3 0 7 ON MISCELLANEOUS REVENUE, THERE IS 49, ALMOST 50,000 IN 23 AND ONLY 15 FOR 24.'CAUSE IT'S A MISCELLANEOUS FEE.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG CHUNK OF THAT DIFFERENCE.
AND THE, THE OTHERS LOOK LIKE THEY'RE COMFORTABLE.
UH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONE THAT I SEE THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE UP HERE.
WELL IF I MAY, THAT'S $147,000 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 23.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE JUST POINTING OUT IS OH YEAH.
IT, AS FAR AS DOING AN ESTIMATE, WHAT'S FY 24 AFTER THIS IS WHAT FEES WERE ACTUALLY GENERATING? YES.
AND THIS GOES, I'M SORRY, THIS GOES THROUGH DECEMBER 30TH.
YEAH, THAT MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE.
AND IF I CAN ADD SOMETHING FOR THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS AND, UH, MELISSA, UM, E ALYSSA, IF I'M SAYING SOMETHING INCORRECT, PLEASE CHIME IN.
IS THAT NORMALLY WHEN OF OUR ACTUALS FOR THE PRIOR YEAR, WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW, THOSE ARE ESTIMATES.
IT'S NOT UNTIL WE GET OUR BUDGET, OUR AUDIT REPORT IS WHERE MM-HMM.
THERE IS GONNA BE SOME SLIGHT CHANGES.
JUST DEPENDING ON WHEN THE REVENUE COMES IN.
BUT IN GENERAL, WE CAN USE THAT AS A NORTH STAR AS RIGHT.
AND THAT WON'T WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT MARCH, I THINK TO GET THE AUDIT REPORT.
SO, BUT IT'S, BUT THEY'RE, BUT THEY'RE GOOD TARGET NUMBERS FROM MY EXPERIENCE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
THEY'RE PRETTY, THEY'RE PRETTY, UH, THEY'RE CLOSE.
SO DO THEY WORK ON TRACK TO YOU AS FAR AS THE TYPICAL LAGS? LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE THE FACILITY AND RENTAL INCOME IS, IS NOT, IT'S LAGGING.
AND THEN YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME ARE ARE LIKE THE LEAF FEES.
YOU'RE ALREADY HALFWAY THROUGH.
SO I GUESS SOME THINGS HAPPEN AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR AND OTHERS.
IS THIS, DOES THIS LOOK ABOUT ON TRACK FOR YOU? YEAH, SO FAR.
SO FAR IT DOES, BUT, UH, MR. BUTLER HAD A QUESTION AND HE ASKED ABOUT FEES AND FI OR FINES.
THAT'S NOT OUR, WE, THAT'S NOT OUR DEPARTMENT.
THAT, THAT ISN'T UNDER OUR DEPARTMENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON REVENUE? WHATEVER THAT MISCELLANEOUS WAS, THAT'S JUST, WELL, WE WE'RE GONNA FIND OUT BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T SHOW UP IN THERE.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT TALKING STILL.
I CAN PULL THAT BACK TO THE PUBLIC.
AND MS. SCOTT MOVING, MOVING FORWARD, CAN WE GET THIS INFORMATION PRINTED OUT INSTEAD OF TRYING TO, TO DO IT ON HERE? IT'S A LITTLE YES.
UM, I'LL TAKE THAT AS MY CUE TO GIVE YOU.
I, I'M NOT SURE IF I GOT THE, OKAY.
JOHN, IF WE RETURN BACK TO THE POWERPOINT 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT FINISHED, WE WANT TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LEAGUE FEES AND HOW THEY TIE INTO OUR LEASES.
UM, THERE AGAIN, IF WE CAN ELIMINATE THAT.
IT'S ACTUALLY THE PAPERS YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, THE 2024 PROPOSED LEAK FEE LEASES.
UM, WE WANTED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES FROM LAST YEAR'S 2023.
UM, AND WE'D LIKE TO GET THAT ON YOUR RADAR AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THE GROUPS DO START NEXT MONTH WITH RENTING OUR FACILITIES.
UM, THE USER GROUPS ARE YOUTH LEAGUES THAT WE RENT TO, UM, THAT WE LEASE OUT CHIMNEY FIELDS CHAMPS 53 TO FRONT ROYAL LITTLE LEAGUE CHIMNEY TO WARREN COUNTY'S GIRLS SOFTBALL AND B CROSBY AT THE CARDINALS.
UM, WE DO KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN A RISE IN COST WITH INFLATION AND MAINTENANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
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UM, SO WE ARE PROPOSING THIS YEAR TO HAVE A 10% INCREASE FOR SEVERAL OF OUR LEAGUE USES, UM, TO COMPENSATE FOR INFLATION.BUT WE ARE ALSO TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF THEIR REGISTRATION FEES.
UM, THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED REGISTRATION FEES.
UM, SO WE'RE TRYING TO INCREASE THE PRICE AND INCREMENTS, UM, AS TO NOT JACK UP THEIR REGISTRATION FEES TOO HIGH TO WHERE THEY LOSE PARTICIPATION.
UM, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT INFLATION AND MAINTENANCE AND LINING THE FIELDS DOES COST MONEY.
IT TAKES MONEY TO GET THINGS DONE.
UM, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY CONSIDERATE AND LOOK AT INCREASING DEFINITELY IN INCREMENTS TO GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE, BUT ALSO WHERE IT'S REASONABLE FOR THEM.
UM, THEY ARE AN EXTENSION OF PRETTY MUCH OUR PROGRAMS. WE THINK OF THEM AS PARTNERSHIPS 'CAUSE THEY DO OFFER SERVICES THAT WE CAN'T PROVIDE TO THE YOUTH DUE TO STAFFING AND OTHER REASONS.
UM, WITH BEN CROSBY STADIUM, WE HAVE ASKED TO CONSIDERABLY INCREASE THAT LEASE AGREEMENT FOR THE CARDINALS DUE TO INCREASING COSTS AND FIELD GROUND MAINTENANCE, GENERAL TOUR EXPENSES AND UTILITY FEES.
UM, AND WE'VE ALSO LIMITED THE USE OF BEN CROSBY STADIUM TO LOCAL TEAMS AND LEAGUES, UM, TO HELP PRESERVE FIELD CONDITIONS.
WE WERE PREVIOUSLY RENTING THE FIELD OUT EVERY SINGLE DAY, EVERY EVENING.
AND IT WAS NOT GIVEN THE FIELD TIME TO REST OR MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT A CHANCE TO GET IN THERE AND GET THINGS FIXED UP ADEQUATELY.
UM, AND I ALSO WANTED TO TOUCH ON OUR PROGRAM FEES.
IF YOU HAVE A MOMENT OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, LEASES, WE CAN DO THAT FIRST AND THEN I'LL TOUCH ON PROGRAMMING.
UM, SO THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND IT.
I LOOK AT THIS AND THERE'S UH, SAY FRONT ROW LITTLE LEAGUE.
IT, THE 2023 LEASE FEE WAS, UM, $1,245 AND YOU'RE PROPOSING TO INCREASE IT TO, UH, 1,370, WHICH IS $125 INCREASE.
IT SAYS REGISTRATION FEE FOR T-BALL.
UM, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAD 400 PARTICIPANTS LAST YEAR.
SO I GUESS YOU'RE USING THAT AS A BASELINE OF PROJECTING WHAT POSSIBLY COULD BE FOR THE 2024 SEASON.
AND THEIR REGISTRATION FEE IS $84.
SO IF I TIMES THAT BY 400, I GET $33,600.
NOW IS THAT LITTLE LEAGUE COLLECTS THAT AND THAT'S THEIR MONEY AND THEN THEY PAY YOU THE 1370 FOR 24, RIGHT? YES MA'AM.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION HERE IS WHEN WE INCREASE THEIR FEES, THEN THEY HAVE TO INCREASE THEIR REGISTRATION FEES TO BE ABLE, SO OUT OF THAT 33, WHAT ALL DO THEY DO WITH THAT IS DO THEY BUY THE UNIFORMS OR, YES, MA'AM.
UM, THEY PROVIDE UNIFORMS. THEY DO, THEY PROVIDE CHALK TO LINE THEIR FIELDS.
THEY PROVIDE STAY DRY WHEN THEIR FIELDS GET WET.
UM, THEY'VE PURCHASED TARPS FOR THEIR FIELDS.
THEY PUT UP A BATTING CAGE SO THAT MONEY THEY DO USE AND TURN AROUND AND SPEND IT BACK ON THEIR ORGANIZATION AND THEIR YOUTH.
AND THEY DO PROVIDE SCHOLARSHIPS FOR ANYBODY THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO PLAY.
SO I'M HEARING OUT OF THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY DO FIELD MAINTENANCE, BUT WE'RE SAYING WE'RE INCREASING THE FIELDS BECAUSE OF OUR CAUSE FOR FIELD MAINTENANCE.
THE FRONT WORLD, LITTLE LEAGUE COMPLEX IS ON COUNTY PROPERTY.
YOU PRIOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT COMING OVER FROM THE TOWN, THE TOWN OF FORT ROYAL LEASED, THAT PROPERTY DATED BACK TO 1952.
UH, FRONT WORLD WAS THE SECOND, UM, BASICALLY ORGANIZATION IN THE STATE TO GET TO CHARTERED.
AND FOR THOSE WHO MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THIS, IN 53 THAT YOU HEAR ABOUT CHAMP 53, WELL THAT TEAM IN 53 WENT TO WILLIAMSPORT TO THIRD OR THIRD IN THE, UH, IN THE WORLD.
BUT IT'S A UNIQUE, THEIR SELF, UM, SUPPORTING.
WE DO NOT GET ANYTHING FROM THEM.
WHAT WE DO HAVE, WE HAVE A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THEM, UM, STARTED, I THINK WE HAD THAT BACK IN 2000 OR 2001, IS WHATEVER THEIR UTILITIES, WATER, SEWER FEES, WHATEVER THE TOTAL IS, WE, WE TAKE OFF, UM, UP TO $2,000 FOR THEM.
AND ANYTHING AFTER THAT, IT'S 50 50.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE TOTAL, UM, EX EXPENDITURE FOR THAT WOULD BE SAY $10,000, WE TAKE OFF TWO, UM, THEY WOULD PAY US $4,000 AND THEN WE WOULD PAY THE BALANCE OF THE, OF THE, UH, OTHER $4,000.
THEY, THEY DO EVERYTHING THEMSELVES.
YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT HELP THEM HERE
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AND THERE, BUT NOTHING REALLY, UH, SPECTACULAR.BUT IS IT IS A UNIQUE FACILITY, NOT TOO MANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE 70 SOMETHING YEARS OLD AND MAINTAIN AS LONG AS THEY HAVE NO, WELL, AND I, BUT THERE WORDS CHAMPS IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS CHAMPS IS A DIFFERENT OLDER AGE GROUP THAT ACTUALLY USES OUR FACILITY.
THEY COME DOWN THEIR 13 TO 16-YEAR-OLD AGE GROUP.
IS THIS ONE, IS YOUR FIRST, YOUR FIRST BOX IS, IS THAT CHAMPS OR IS THAT, UM, SO THE PROPOSED LEAK FEE IS FOR CHAMPS AND THEN THE UTILITIES UNDERNEATH THAT IS FOR THE COMPLEX.
SO WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO WITH THE LEAK FEES IS FOR OUR FACILITY THAT WE LINE AND MAINTAIN AND ALL OF THAT.
UM, BUT THEY DO HAVE THE OTHER FACILITY THAT THEY PUT THEIR MONEY BACK INTO FOR LINE AND CHALK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I JUST, MY CONCERN AND I WENT THROUGH AND SOME OF THESE, WE'VE GOT SOME, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT INCREASES.
I MEAN, I, THE ONE FOR THE CARDINALS, UM, WENT FROM 2000 TO 4,000.
BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF WIGGLE ROOM THERE TO MAKE, UM, TO MAKE THAT UP WITH, UM, SELLING CONCESSIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND I, I JUST WORRY WITH THE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT THREE CHILDREN, $84, SOMEBODY'S NOT GONNA GET TO PLAY MAYBE.
AND THAT, AND I REALIZE YOU SAID THEY DO SCHOLARSHIPS, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I I I WANNA BE ABLE TO COVER OUR COSTS, BUT I WORRY ABOUT THE KIDS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PARENT LOOKS AT THIS AND SAYS, I CAN'T AFFORD THIS.
AND SOME PEOPLE'S PRIDES GET IN THE WAY.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA ASK FOR A SCHOLARSHIP.
AND I, I JUST, I I DON'T WANNA PRICE THIS OUT OF CHILDREN BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.
WE COULD CHECK, CHECK, CHECK THAT AGAIN, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE SOCCER ORGANIZATION, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A NUMBER AND THEN AFTER THAT IT'S UP TO SO MANY, THEY LOWER, LOWER THE COST.
SO I, I COULD CALL ROGER JUST TO VERIFY THAT AND LET YOU KNOW TOMORROW.
BUT YEAH, THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE ALL SPECIFICALLY GONNA BE CHARGED 80.
THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT THEY GAVE, I DON'T KNOW, JUST SAYS, GAVE US $84 FOR T-BALL.
UM, AND I KNOW MY, MY GRANDSONS DID, AND THAT'S, OH MY GOODNESS, THERE, I BELIEVE THERE'S 400 EASILY.
AND I LOOKED AT THAT THROUGHOUT THIS AND UM, LIKE I SAID, I JUST, I, I KNOW WE NEED TO COVER COST.
UM, AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION TO THAT, SINCE WE DID DIVIDE OFF, DO, DO THESE FUNDS THEN GO, BECAUSE PUBLIC WORKS IS NOW MAINTAINING THE FIELDS, CORRECT? OR DO YOU, IS THAT STILL UNDER PARKS AND REC? NOPE, THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, BUT IF IT'S A RECREATION FEE, IT GOES TO RECREATION.
IT DOESN'T GO TO PUBLIC WORKS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO DO YOU HAVE STAFF THAT'S LIMING AND MOWING, OR IS THAT PUBLIC WORKS? THAT'S ALL PUBLIC WORKS WHEN IT'S A RECREATION FEE.
THEN ACTUALLY IT ALL GOES TO THE BOARD.
BUT FOR OUR CLASSIFICATION IN ACCOUNTING, IT'S A RECREATION FEE RATHER THAN A PUBLIC WORKS TYPE FEE.
BUT THE PUBLIC WORKS GUYS ARE TECHNICALLY DOING THE WORK.
THERE'S, THERE'S WHERE MY CONFUSION COMES AS WE'RE GIVING THEM A FEE, WHICH INCLUDES MAINTENANCE, BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING THE MAINTENANCE.
SO THERE'S, BUT THEY WERE COUNTED IN THE PART IN THE CALCULATIONS.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THE BOARD SAID LAST YEAR WAS THEY WANTED US TO BRING THIS CLOSER TO THE COST THAT THERE WAS A GENERAL PUBLIC COST FOR PARKS.
AND THAT'S X DOLLARS WHEN HE GETS INTO THE BUDGET TO HAVE THE PARKS.
AND THEN THERE'S A SPECIALIZED USE, THE BIGGEST SPECIALIZATION BEING THE CARDINALS, BUT THE OTHERS, TO A LESSER DEGREE, WE WANTED TO COME CLOSER TO THE ACTUAL COST OF HAVING THOSE PROGRAMS AS OPPOSED TO SAYING EVERYBODY CAN COME AND RUN AROUND THE PARK PLAY, UH, AT FAMILY LAND TYPE THING.
UH, THIS IS WHAT IT COSTS FOR THAT SPECIFIC PROGRAM.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PAST YEAR.
I JUST NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE THEY MOVE OUT? JUST A COMMENT ABOUT THE, THE SCHOLARSHIP SITUATION.
I, I'VE, I'VE SPENT A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME WITH THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR.
AND, UM, I, I THINK THE COACHES AND THE ORGANIZ PEOPLE THAT RUN THE COACHES AND THE PEOPLE THAT RUN THE ORGANIZATION HAVE A PRETTY GOOD HANDLE ON HOW READ SITUATIONS AND THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY KNOW HOW TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A LITTLE BROTHER THAT'S NOT SHOWING UP,
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THE INFORMATION GETS OUT THERE, MAKE IT HAPPEN.I, I'M PRETTY PUMPED THAT OKAY.
I THINK IT, THE CASE, THE CASE OF OF THAT'S MISSING OUT ON THE OPPORTUNITY IS, IS RARE IN MY EXPERIENCE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE COACHES IN THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION, MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.
IF I MAY ADD TO THAT, IN OUR, IN OUR DISCUSSIONS THE TIFFANY HAD OF EACH ONE OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, UM, SPEAKING DIRECTLY WITH, WITH, UH, THE PRESIDENT OF THE, UH, SOCCER.
UM, SO SAY THEY, THEY HAVE THEIR FEES AND THEY TRY TO SET THEIR FEES AND THEY ACTUALLY EITHER STABLE OR THEY, MAYBE THEY LOWERED THEIR FEE JUST TO HAIR AND THEY'RE ABLE TO INCORPORATE 150 KIDS.
THAT'S THE LARGEST NATION COUNTY.
WE HAVE A HUGE, HUGE YES, THEY DO PROBLEM BOTH IN THE SPRING AND THE FALL.
WELL, I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION 'CAUSE I JUST, I, IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
SO WHEN YOU EVALUATED, UM, THE NEW FEE SCHEDULE, SO WHAT WAS YOUR, YOUR, UM, BASIS INVESTMENT, IF YOU WILL, I KNOW THAT'S THE WRONG TERM TO USE FOR, UM, REVENUE, BUT, UM, DID YOU DO, UH, A FORECAST? DID YOU GO BACK TO PRIOR ACTUALS TO SEE HOW MUCH IT COSTS FOR OVERHEAD COSTS VERSUS THE MONEY THAT WE WERE BRINGING IN? AND UM, SO IF YOU DID DO THAT, CAN YOU KIND OF LIKE, GIVE AN IDEA HOW MUCH MONEY THAT THE COUNTY WAS, UM, SUBSIDIZING, IF YOU WILL, THESE, UH, THESE PROGRAMS WITH, WITH THE, UM, WHAT I'M GONNA BE CALLING OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE COSTS? WELL, WE TIE THAT WHEN WE, WHEN WE LOOK WORKING WITH, WITH PUBLIC WORKS, TO ANSWER PART OF THAT QUESTION IS BASICALLY THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE FIELD USE, IT'S THE ACTUAL UTILITIES THAT ARE INVOLVED.
UM, AND PUBLIC WORKS WAS I THINK ASKING ABOUT RESTROOMS AND FACILITIES, TOILET PAPER AND LIKE THAT.
SO WE TOOK THAT ALL INTO ACCOUNT.
AND THIS LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST YEAR WE WERE REALLY ABLE TO DO THAT.
IN FACT, WE WERE, I THINK WE'D MEET EVERY MONTH AND DISCUSS PROJECT THINGS AND THESE, THESE TYPES OF, UH, SCENARIOS CAME UP AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE CAME FORWARD WITH IT.
LIKE I ONE SOMEBODY HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DON'T WANT TO OVERPRICE THE FEES, SO CORRECT.
WE'RE, WE'RE FAIRLY COMPETENT.
IN FACT, THE FEES THAT WE'RE OFFERING NOW ARE FAIRLY COMPARABLE OR IN CONJUNCTION WE HAD BACK IN 2019.
IN FACT, ALL OUR NUMBERS AND OUR USAGE NOW IS, IS FAIRLY, WE'RE GETTING BACK TO WHERE WE WERE AT THAT TIME.
BECAUSE I SEE, UH, LAST YEAR AS AN ESTIMATE, OUR REVENUE WAS $307,000.
AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I, I WONDER WHAT THE EXPENSES WERE FOR PARKS AND RECS OF LAST YEAR.
I THINK, I MEAN, I THINK YOUR TOTAL BUDGET IS ALMOST, WHAT, A LITTLE BIT OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.
SO WE WERE STILL COMING OUTTA THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, GIVEN, YOU KNOW, FOR STAFF AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WE WERE STILL DOING $700,000 COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND TO OFFSET THESE FEES.
SO, WELL, I HOPE THAT YOU WERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DID YOUR ANALYSIS THAT IT WAS GENEROUS, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I, I AGREE WITH MS. CALLERS THAT THESE ARE PROGRAMS AND WE DON'T WANT TO OVERBURDEN THESE PROGRAMS THAT, THAT OUR YOUTH.
BUT THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, YOU KNOW, TRY TO BE REASONABLE AND, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR, OUR COSTS, UM, COULD YOU, WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THIS INFORMATION, I KEEP SAYING CON UH, CONCESSIONS ARE PART OF THE FEE.
SO ARE WE PROVIDING FOOD FOR THE CONCESSIONS OR ARE THEY PROVIDING, ARE WE, ARE WE JUST KEEPING THEM CLEAN? I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT IS IT? YES MA'AM.
SO, UM, WITH OUR CONCESSION STANDS, THEY ARE COUNTY PROPERTY.
UM, SO WE INCLUDE THAT IN THEIR LEASE.
THEY PAY US A FLAT RATE, WHICH HELPS COVER THE COST OF THE UTILITIES.
UM, BUT THEY STOCK IT WITH THEIR OWN FOOD.
THEY STOCK MAKE THEIR OWN REVENUE OFF OF THE CONCESSION STAND.
THE ONLY TWO CONCESSION STANDS THAT WE ACTUALLY OPERATE OUR, THE POOL CONCESSION DURING THE SUMMER AND THEN THE BASKETBALL CONCESSION DURING THE WINTER AT THE WARREN COUNTY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES GYM.
SO WE PROVIDE OUR OWN CONCESSIONS FOR THOSE.
BUT ANY OTHER GROUP, THEY LEASE THE CONCESSION STAND FROM US AND MAKE A PROFIT OFF THEIR OWN.
UH, LITTLE LEAGUE HAS THEIR OWN, UM, FOOTBALL OVER AT HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES.
THEY MAKE A A VERY GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY AT THEIR CONCESSION STANDS.
SO THAT'S PART OF THEIR, THEIR TOTAL INCOME.
AND I THINK WE PROVIDED SOME OF THIS IN THE, THEY GAVE US ANNUAL REPORTS AND I THINK WE GAVE THAT, WE SENT THAT TO EVERYBODY BACK, UH, A MONTH AGO.
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SO IF THERE'S ANY INFORMATION, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, WE CAN RESEND THAT TOO.'CAUSE THAT'S AN ACTUAL BREAKDOWN OF THEIR EXPENSES AND THEIR REVENUES THAT THEY, UH, COURT.
IF YOU COULD, 'CAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER GIVING THAT.
AND THE LAST QUESTION,
I KNOW AT LAST YEAR, I THINK THE CARDINALS ARE NOW SELLING BEER.
AND THAT'S GOES INTO THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR BUDGETS AND THEIR REVENUE, RIGHT? YES MA'AM.
SO THIS INCREASE OF, UH, $2,000 SHOULDN'T REALLY HURT THEM.
THAT'S OUR THOUGHT PROCESS AFTER WORKING THAT CONCESSION STAND.
I TELL YOU, HERE'S THE THING, IF I MAY ADD THAT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S A LONGSTANDING, UH, AND THEY DO A VERY GOOD JOB.
AND I THINK, YEAH, THEY, YES THEY DO STATED THEY, THEY BRING 14,000 PEOPLE, BUT 14,000 PEOPLE ISN.
14,000 PEOPLE EVERY TIME TURN YOU COME TO A GAME.
JOHN'S COMES TWICE AND IF THEY HAVE PEOPLE HANGING OUT DIRECT RAFTERS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, IT'S, IT'S
BUT THIS, THE CURRENT LEASE, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT THE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED IN PROBABLY 15 YEARS.
SO I THINK IT'S, UH, I THINK, UH, THE COUNTY ITSELF ACTUALLY PROVIDES A, A COUNTY NIGHT AND PAYS THEIR, THEIR ANNUAL FEE OF SPONSORSHIP ABOUT $650.
MR. STANIER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, NO.
I, I DON'T WANNA FORGET YOU THERE.
BUT I DID NOTICE THAT THE, UH, THE CAMERA FEED, UH, WENT OFF A FEW MINUTES AGO.
I'M WONDERING IF THAT COULD BE RESTORED.
WE'LL, HE'S WORKING ON IT NOW.
UM, I ALSO WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION OUR PROGRAM FEES.
UM, WE DO EVALUATE THOSE ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS.
UM, WHEN WE DO OUR PROGRAMMING AND COME UP WITH OUR FEES, WE CONSIDER THE INSTRUCTOR FEE, UM, THE AUDIENCE AND THE EXPENSES, UM, WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE UNIFORMS OR REFEREES, OFFICIALS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT PLEASE NOTE, LIKE THE CONCESSION, THE BUS TRIP, CAMP FEES, ALL OF OUR PROGRAM FEES, UM, THE REVENUE IS DEPOSITED INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
UM, SO ALTHOUGH THE PROGRAMS ARE DESIGNED TO RECOUP THE COST, UM, THEY DON'T ACTUALLY FUND THE REVENUE REQUESTED DIRECTLY.
SO PROGRAM EXPENSE FUNDING WILL IMPACT THE REVENUE REQUESTS.
UM, SO IF THERE'S A BUS TRIP NOT FUNDED IN THE OPERATING BUDGET, THEN THE BUS TROOP REVENUE MOVES WOULD BE REMOVED.
SO OUR MOST PROFITABLE PROGRAMS ARE IN-HOUSE YOUTH PROGRAMS. BASKETBALL AND SWIM LESSONS ARE OUR MAIN, SORRY.
BASKETBALL AND SWIM LESSONS ARE OUR MOST PROFITABLE, UM, IN-HOUSE PROGRAMS. UM, WE ALSO HAVE SEEN A POPULARITY SHIFT FROM TRADITIONAL ARTS AND CRAFTS CLASSES TO MORE PRACTICAL EDUCATION ENRICHMENT CLASSES, SUCH AS BE KEEPING, UM, HEALTH AND FITNESS.
AND THEN WE ARE TRYING TO INCORPORATE, UM, MORE PROGRAMS FOR SENIORS IN OUR TODDLER AGES THREE TO SIX.
WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA START, UM, A T-BALL TODDLER CAMP THIS SUMMER.
AND THEN WE'RE REVAMPING OUR SCHOOL AGE PROGRAM TO INCORPORATE, UM, MORE EDUCATIONAL AND ENRICHMENT, NOT JUST SOLELY BASED ON SPORTS.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE GET OUR PROGRAM NUMBERS AND INFORMATION? NOT NECESSARILY A QUESTION ON THAT, BUT ON THE SWIMMING LESSONS, BECAUSE I KNOW THOSE CLASSES FILL UP REALLY QUICK.
AND YOU CAN ONLY DO SO MANY, UH, CLASSES.
IS THERE ANY THOUGHT OF, UM, PARTNERING, I DON'T KNOW IF THE GYM OUT NEXT TO UH, 66, IS THAT EVEN STILL OPEN? THEY HAD A POOL.
UM, NO MA'AM, IT'S CLOSED RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.
UM, WE DID, UM, IN-HOUSE GET A WSI INSTRUCTOR, UH, RACHEL WALKER.
I'M GOING TO GET MINE THIS SUMMER SO THAT WE CAN OFFER MORE SWIM LESSONS.
AND RMA HAS ACTUALLY BEEN WILLING TO PARTNER WITH US SO THAT WE CAN OFFER SWIM LESSONS IN THE OFF SEASON.
AND THEY'VE GOT AN INDOOR POOL.
BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING IF MAYBE WE COULD PICK THAT UP IN THE WINTERTIME.
WE WOULD LOVE TO START DOING THAT.
AND THEN THE FACT THAT WE HAVE MORE WSI ON STAFF, WE CAN OFFER MORE CLASSES IN THE SUMMER AS WELL.
THERE'S A LOT OF PARENTS THAT WOULD, UH, APPRECIATE THEIR KIDS BEING A LITTLE STEP AHEAD WHEN THEY WANNA JUMP THAT WATER IN THE SUMMER.
THE ONLY, JUST TO CONCLUDE WITH THE, EXCUSE ME, TO CONCLUDE WITH, UM, THE, THE FEES.
UM, AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE BROUGHT THIS BEFORE, UM, THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION, I THINK DR.
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EVERYBODY.WE COULD COME TONIGHT AND TALK ABOUT THESE FEES.
UM, BUT IF IT'S ALL POSSIBLE AS SOON AS WE CAN, WE'D LIKE TO GET THESE, UM, PUT ON AN AGENDA AND GET THEM APPROVED.
AND, BUT CERTAINLY IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO READING THE INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO US.
UM, NEXT YEAR, UM, THE SAME, WE'RE GONNA DO THE SAME THING, BUT WE'RE GONNA DO IT EARLIER.
WE WANTED TO START DOING IT IN SEPTEMBER SO WE COULD BRING IT TO YOU A LOT EARLIER AND THEN ENGAGE ALL THE DIFFERENT, UM, YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS AND THEIR LEASE AGREEMENTS AHEAD OF TIME.
AND ALSO THE FEES WILL BE AVAILABLE FIRSTHAND JANUARY 1ST, 2025.
IT'D BE EASIER THAN DELAY 'CAUSE WE'RE STILL CURRENTLY USING THE 2023.
UM, UM, UNLESS THE BOARD OBJECTS, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THIS NEXT TUESDAY.
BUT WE'LL PUT IT SO AFTER DIGESTING IT BETTER, WE NEED TO, WE HAVE BETWEEN NOW AND MONDAY.
[C. Parks and Recreation - Budget Request]
READY.YEAH, WE'RE READY FOR THE BUDGET.
ME SAY THAT SO
IF YOU COULD JUST APPROVE ALL OF OUR REQUESTS.
AND ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED ON IN OVERALL BUDGET, JUST FEEL FREE TO ASK.
UM, AND TIFF AND I WILL BOTH TRADE OFF AND DO SOME OF THESE.
BUT THE FIRST ONE THAT I HAVE, I'M SORRY.
THEY NEED, YOU WANNA BRING UP THEIR BUDGETS PLEASE? I'M SORRY.
DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE YOUR BUDGETS? I, I I HAVE MINE EVERYBODY.
IT, THE SECOND TO LAST, UM, THAT I GAVE YOU, AND I'LL PULL UP THE SCREEN TOO.
HOW DID YOU LIKE WORKING WITH THIS SYSTEM? WELL, THIS IS THE THIRD SYSTEM, THIRD TYPE OF BUDGET IN THREE YEARS.
AND HONESTLY, I THINK THIS IS BY FAR THE EASIEST.
AND IT'S ALSO EASIER FOR YOU AND EVERYBODY ELSE TO ACTUALLY LAY IT OUT THERE THAN BREAK, BREAK, BREAK DOWN INTO COMPONENTS.
SO THEY'RE PROBABLY LESS QUESTIONS.
I MEAN, THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE QUESTIONS, BUT IT'S A VERY EASY PROCESS ONCE WE GET STARTED.
SO, LISA, ALWAYS, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE A USER FRIENDLY SYSTEM.
WELL, IT'S EASY THEN WE'LL HAVE TO CHANGE THAT.
IT WAS A VERY THANK YOU, UM, ALYSSA FOR, FOR BRINGING THAT FORWARD TO US.
'CAUSE IT, IT REALLY, IT REALLY HELPED US A LOT.
BUT NOW THIS SHEET, THESE SHEETS JUST HAVE THE ONE NUMBER, THEY DON'T HAVE THE BOTTOM LINE.
AS I SAID, I, I WANT TO JUST FOCUS IN ON THE ONES THAT EXCEED.
UM, THE FIRST ONE IS, UM, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
UM, IT'S 33 REQUESTING $33,000.
BUT, UM, THE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS WHY IS, UM, WE HAVE GOLF MANAGEMENT, UM, GOLF COURSE MANAGEMENT FEES, AND THAT'S $21,000.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS ASKED, I THINK WE HAD THIS AT OUR, OUR, OUR MEETING, UM, WITH VIRGINIA GOLF.
THAT'S SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE THAT, UM, WE ARE PROVIDING AS A COUNTY, UM, FOR THE, UM, VIRGINIA GOLF INCORPORATED.
BUT THEN I THINK ON THE LEASE DOC, DR.
DALEY, IF THIS IS CORRECT, OR ALYSSA, THIS IS CORRECT.
UM, ALL GOLFERS ARE ALL ROUNDS OF GOLF ARE SUPPOSED TO PAY BACK $2 PER ROUND.
SO THAT'LL, THAT'LL BRING US BACK SOME OF THE REVENUE TO, TO RECOVER THAT.
THAT'S WHY THAT NUMBER IS SPIKED SO HIGH.
UM, AND THEN THE POSITIVE COACHING ALLIANCE, UM, SERVICES CONTRACT.
UM, UH, TIFFANY CAN, UH, ATTEST TO THIS.
UM, IT WORKS WITH COACHES, WHETHER THEY'RE, THEY'RE LEARNING ABOUT POSITIVE COACHING AND IT ALIGNS ITSELF WITH THE SPECIFIC SPORTS THAT WE OFFER.
AND THE, THE LEAGUES, I THINK TAKE FOOTBALL, I THINK TAKES, TAKES ADVANTAGE OF IT.
FOOTBALL, SOFTBALL, SOCCER, AND SOCCER.
UM, BUT THIS IS THE LAST YEAR, UH, FOUR YEARS.
WE'D LIKE TO, UM, GET BACK INTO IN CONTACT WITH POSITIVE COACHING, MAYBE SEE WHAT OTHER, UM, BECAUSE THE LEASE OR AGREEMENT IS UP WITH THEM, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN DO BESIDES WHAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO OFFER.
THAT AND JUST THE LAST ONE IS FUNDING, FUNDING SURVEYS AND EVALUATIONS TO BE CONDUCTED IF NEED, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DONE ON OUR PROPERTIES.
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OKAY.UM, THE SECOND ONE IS, UH, MAINTENANCE SERVICE CONTRACTS.
THAT'S, UH, ITEM NUMBER OR LINE ITEM 3 3 1 0 3.
AND THIS REQUEST INCLUDES POOL MANAGEMENT FEES OF 13,000.
IT'S BASED ON A QUOTE THAT WE, UH, PUT OUT TO BID.
UM, THIS PAST FALL WE FOUND OUT THAT OUR CON POOL CONTRACTOR 20 PLUS YEARS IS RETIRING.
SO WE, WE WENT AHEAD AND, AND AT LEAST RESEARCHED THIS, UH, WORK WITH FINANCE AND THEY'RE ABLE TO COME UP WITH, UM, THIS FIGURE, I THINK IT'S NEGOTIABLE.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT, GET THAT, THAT, GET THAT NUMBER DOWN.
UM, BUT WE THINK WE'RE, WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT NUMBER AS WELL AS XEROX SERVICE CONTRACT, WHICH IS A FIVE, FIVE YEAR, FIVE YEAR, UM, LEASE AGREEMENT.
THAT'S WHY THAT THAT TOTAL IS WHERE IT IS.
AND THEN, UH, 5 1 0 4, THE CABLE INTERNET, UH, SERVICE, 14,500.
UM, THIS IS ONE OF MANY OF THE EXPENSE ITEMS THAT WERE INADVERTENTLY OMITTED, UM, DURING OUR RECENT DEPARTMENT SPLIT BACK IN 2022.
UM, BUT BASICALLY LOOKING AT THIS, THE AREAS THAT IT DOES COVER IS THE STADIUM, UM, THE SOCCER PLEX, UM, THE POOL BOUNCE.
THAT'S AN EXTRA ANTENNA THAT'S AIMED AT THE SOFTBALL, ADULT SOFTBALL? UM, NO, IT'S IN BETWEEN THE POOL AND THE STADIUM, AND IT JUST BOUNCES.
SO WE CAN HAVE VIDEO AT THE POOL.
IT'S SO FAR AWAY FROM THE STADIUM.
AND THEN THE POOL ITSELF, AND THEN HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES COMPLEX.
AND THEN FINALLY THE, UM, MAINTENANCE SHOP.
WE'VE JUST COVERED THAT IN OUR EXPENSES, AND THAT'S WHERE THAT 14,500 LID ITEM CAME.
IT WAS IN BROKEN DOWN INTO WHICH ANOTHER BUDGET, BUT WE HAD TO MAKE SURE WE PUT THAT, YOU KNOW, BACK IN.
SO WE KNOW NOW WHERE THAT, THAT, UH, THAT THAT'S COMING FROM.
AND THAT'S FOR YOUR SECURITY CAMERAS? NO, NO, NO.
THAT'S, THAT'S JUST BASICALLY, UM, CABLE AND INTERNET.
UM, WE DO NEED THE INTERNET FOR THE SECURITY CABLE.
THAT'S WHAT IAM THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.
YES, BECAUSE I, I WAS GONNA SAY, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE, WE DON'T HAVING TVS OUT, OUT AT THE POOL AND STUFF, SO I ASSUMED IT WAS GONNA BE TO YES, YES, MA'AM.
TO, UH, HAVE THE SECURITY CAMERAS.
UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS LINE ITEM 5 4 0 4.
UM, THIS EXPENDER LINE IS LARGELY RECOUPED, UM, IN OUR SALE REVENUE.
UM, SO WE'RE ASKING FOR BUS TRIPS.
UM, FOR NATIONALS ONLY, IT'S ABOUT $10,000.
THAT'S FOR TICKETS IN THE BUS.
UM, WE DO, WHEN WE DO OUR PROGRAMMING, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE FEES ADJUSTED INTO WHAT WE CHARGE FOR PEOPLE.
UM, THE MOVIE NIGHT IS TO RENT THE PROJECTOR, TO HAVE OUR POOL MOVIE NIGHTS.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, OUR REQUISITION FOR THE POOL AND GYM CONCESSION IS THE STARTUP MONEY.
AND THEN OUR SCHOOLS OUT PROGRAM SUMMER CAMP, WE'RE ASKING FOR 4,000 150.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE MISCELLANEOUS RECREATIONAL SUPPLIES, WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE TO OFFER NEW PROGRAMS AND TO REPLACE OLD PROGRAMS. AND THEN THE NEXT LINE ITEM, UM, IS 5 4 0 6.
THE BUILDING MAINTENANCE SUPPLIES, WE'RE ASKING FOR 25,800.
UM, PLEASE MAKE NOTE THAT SOME OF THIS EQUIPMENT REPAIR IN THIS CATEGORY MIGHT BE ABSORBED FOR THE POOL MAINTENANCE CONTRACTOR IF IT'S AWARDED.
UM, WE NEED THIS MONEY FOR POOL CHEMICALS, UM, REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT AT THE POOL AND REPAIRS.
UM, WE HAVE THE POOL VACUUM, THE DRAIN GRS THAT BREAK, AND THEN ANY PAINT OR OTHER NEEDS THAT MIGHT ARISE FOR THE POOL.
UM, WE ALSO PAY FOR POOL WATER TEST KITS THAT WE HAVE TO GET EVERY SINGLE YEAR, 'CAUSE THEY DO EXPIRE.
UM, AND THEN WE ARE ASKING FOR 12,000 FOR SECURITY CAMERAS AT THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES GYM.
UM, WE THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A VERY GOOD ASSET IF WE COULD GET THAT.
UM, IT WOULD HELP WITH SECURITY.
UM, WE HAVE CHILDREN IN THE GYM 24 7, UM, WITH NO WAY TO MONITOR WHO COMES IN, WHO LEAVES.
UM, WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES IN THE PARKING LOT THAT WE KNOW OF, AND WE'VE NOTICED SUCCESS WHEN WE HAD THE CAMERAS AT BEING IN THE POOL WITH VANDALISM AND ANY DISRUPTIONS.
WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE CAMERAS IF NEED BE.
UM, THE NEXT LINE ITEM IS 5 4 1 0 FOR WEARING APPAREL, UNIFORMS, AND PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT.
WE'RE ASKING FOR 16,000 FOR THAT.
UM, THE FIRST TWO ARE RESALE ITEMS FOR BASKETBALL AND GYMNASTICS JERSEYS, WHICH AGAIN, WE DO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
WE DO PRICING FOR THOSE PROGRAMS. UM, BUT OF COURSE IT GOES BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
UM, THEN WE NEED LIFEGUARD UNIFORMS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE, UM, THEY'RE MANDATORY FOR LIFEGUARDS.
AND THEN WE LIKE TO HAVE PROGRAM STAFF UNIFORMS TO DISTINGUISH OUR SUMMER CARE FROM, UM, PARTICIPANTS
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THAT SHOW UP.AND THAT'S AGAIN, WHAT THE SCHOOLS OUT CAMP T-SHIRTS AS WELL.
UM, AND THE NEXT LINE ITEM IS 5 4 1 1 BOOKS AND SUBSCRIPTIONS.
UM, WE'RE REQUESTING 8,900, AND THIS IS MAINLY FOR OUR NEW CIVIC REC PROGRAM.
UM, IT'S OUR RECREATION MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE RIGHT NOW.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE REC PRO, WHICH IS VERY OUTDATED.
UM, WE PUT BIDS OUT AND CIVIC REC CAME BACK AND WE DECIDED TO GO WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY WERE CAN IN HAND WITH OUR NEW WEBSITE CIVIC PLUS.
UM, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO SHOW OUR RENTALS, OUR REGISTRATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT ON THE ACTUAL CIVIC PLUS WEBSITE.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE EMAILING CONSTANT CONTACTS, UM, AND THEN OUR AD SERVICES IN CANVA SINCE WE'RE TRYING TO GO MORE DIGITALLY.
CAN YOU, CAN WE PULL BACK THE, UM, THE POWERPOINT? YEAH, THE POWERPOINT.
WELL, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA, IT'S GONNA, THIS, THIS NEXT, UH, LINE ITEM IN 5 4 1 15 TIES INTO, UM, BASICALLY THE POWERPOINT.
OTHER OPERATING SUPPLIES WE'RE, WE'RE REQUESTING, UH, $35,800.
UM, THESE EQUIPMENT, UM, SUPPLIES OPEN TO PUBLIC, NOT SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR A PROGRAM OR TO A PROGRAM.
UM, THERE IS A DEPRECIATION VALUE IN A A LOT OF AREAS.
UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR 10 PICNIC TABLES.
UH, ONE, UM, ONE PARK BY ANNUALLY, WHICH 12,000 TENNIS COURTS NETS, UM, FOUR AT $1,200, UH, PICKLEBALL.
IT'S A VERY POPULAR SPORT FOR THOSE WHO PLAY PICKLEBALL OR HAVE LEARNED TO PLAY PICKLEBALL.
UM, BOTH NETTING AND LINING LINING THE, UH, THE COURTS DIRECTLY BEHIND BING CROSBY STADIUM.
AND WE HAVE SLATS, UM, THAT ARE BROKEN ON OUR BENCHES THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT OUR PARK SYSTEM.
AND WE ALSO HAVE MISCELLANEOUS, UM, OPERATION EXPENSES, $15,000.
UM, PARK PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT GETS BROKEN, UH, JUST WEAR AND TEAR.
IN FACT, I THINK ONE'S ONE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
UM, UP AT ROCKLAND EXERCISE STATION, IT'S COST LIKE THREE OR $4,000 JUST TO REPLACE ONE SECTION OF THAT.
SO, UM, BUT IF I MAY JUMP INTO THIS.
WE'VE DONE, IF, AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE, THE COSTS, UM, OF WHAT WE'RE, OR ACTUALLY THE COST FIGURES THAT WE'RE LOOKING DOWN, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS IT, IT'S KIND OF LIKE AN ASSET REPLACEMENT, BUT IT ISN'T AN ASSET REPLACEMENT.
WE'RE LOOKING AT PROJECTING OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WHAT, UM, AREAS AND CONCERNS.
WE GO OUT AND DO OUR, UM, OUR PARK INSPECTIONS, UM, AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IN GETTING ALSO QUOTES FOR REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENTS THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE PAST, SAY SIX MONTHS, LOOKING, LOOKING FORWARD TO KNOWING, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE THINGS REPLACED AND DOING SO.
WE ALSO LOOK INTO WHETHER WE NEED TO, UM, REPLACE THEM, UM, UH, BASED ON THE LOCATION.
UM, ALSO, UM, BASED ON THOSE ON OTHER FACTORS, THE PARKS AND RECREATION, WE MAY DO WANTED TO DU REDISTRIBUTE, UM, REPAIR OR MOVE THE INSTALLATION ALTOGETHER.
IF IT'S SO BAD OFF, I THINK THERE'S ONE OR TWO PIECES OF PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, UM, EXCUSE ME, EXERCISE PIECES OF, OF EQUIPMENT OVER AT, UM, BROOKS PARK, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT ARE BEYOND REPAIR AND WE NEED TO PULL THEM OUT ON A, FOR LIABILITY ISSUES.
SO, BUT, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE.
UM, CAN I MOVE TO THE NEXT, NEXT SLIDE? THANK YOU.
UM, I JUST WANNA MENTION A COUPLE OF, UM, CAPITAL PRIORITIES WHEN YOU GET, UH, GET TO THE, UM, UM, THE CIP, UH, MEETINGS WITH JANE AND, AND, AND, AND DR.
DALEY, UM, THE ROCKLAND PARK, UM, ATHLETIC COMPLEX.
UM, THE COUNTY IS WORKING WITH THE VIRGINIA, UH, I'M SORRY, DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION AND RECREATION.
AND WE'VE DONE THAT FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF.
UM, JANE AND I HAD A, UH, A CONVERSATION, UM, WITH PEOPLE FROM DCR THIS PAST WEEK, AND WE'RE GOING BACK AND JUST, UM, TAKING THE, IN, TAKING THE INFORMATION, UM, SO WE CAN RESUBMIT THAT INFORMATION, UM, AND HOPEFULLY GET IT APPROVED SOMETIME THIS SUMMER.
UM, IT IS A THREE YEAR GRANT, UM, IN PROPOSING OFFERING, UH, $2 MILLION.
AND IF YOU LOOK, I CAN KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THAT, BUT THE ACTUAL, UM, AMENITIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A SPORTS COMPLEX THERE.
THIS IS, WAS, UH, PLACED IN OUR 2009, UM, UH, MASTER PLAN FOR THIS PARK, REGIONAL PARK.
AND AGAIN, WE EDITED IT AGAIN AND REVISED SOME AREAS IN 2015.
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YOU CAN, I DUNNO IF YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT CLOSE UP, BUT YOU'RE LOOKING, WE'RE LOOKING AT A QUAD, TWO SOFTBALL, TWO BASEBALL, THREE RECTANGULAR, UH, FIELDS, A CONCESSION STAND LIGHTS.AND WE HAVE ANOTHER BUILDING THAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW FOR RESTROOMS AND, AND, AND ALSO MEETING ROOMS. BUT WE'RE LOOKING HOPEFULLY TO TRY TO GET, UH, TO PUT THIS TO CLOSURE HERE THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, A MONTH, MONTH AND A HALF, GET IT BACK TO DCR SO THEY CAN, UH, REWARD.
UM, THEY REALLY LIKE THE APPLICATION.
UM, BUT IF WE WERE TO BE AWARDED, WOULD START, UM, IN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR.
AND AGAIN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE TALK TO THE CIP.
THE SECOND IS, UM, THE CLAUDIE STOKES C UH, COMMUNITY SWIMMING POOL.
UH, THE REPLASTERING, UM, A FEW YEARS AGO WE PUT THIS IN, IN, WE PUT THIS IN OUR, UM, CIP BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT GOT, UM, STALLED AND IT GOT STALLED, UM, BECAUSE, UH, UM, OUR DEPART, OUR, OUR APARTMENT WAS PLANNING ON USING IT.
BUT OUR PUMP HOUSE NEEDED REPAIRS, AS YOU'RE PROBABLY ARE AWARE THAT IT HAD TO BE OVERHAULED.
AND IT WAS ABOUT READY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, FALL DOWN.
SO WE USED THE BUNNIES THERE THAT WENT IN THAT WERE INITIALLY GONNA GO INTO THE, UH, REPLASTERING FOR THAT.
IT HAS NOT BEEN DONE IN, UM, SINCE 2009.
I THINK WE HAD SOME PATCHWORK DONE OVER THE YEARS.
UM, YOU CAN SEE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THOSE PICTURES THERE IN THE LOWER RIGHT.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S IN, IN PRETTY REPAIR.
WE'VE HAD A FEW COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT.
BUT FOR CLEANING PURPOSES, THEY CAN'T, OUR, OUR MACHINES, WE JUST CAN'T GET IN THERE AND GET IT ALL DOWN WITHOUT DRAINING THE POOL AND GETTING, GETTING THINGS MOVING FORWARD.
BUT, UH, UM, THE POOL DOES SERVE, UM, 12,600 PEOPLE.
UM, IT'S, YOU'RE LOOKING AT $81,000 IN REVENUE THIS PAST YEAR.
UH, ADMISSIONS LESSONS, CONCESSION STAND POOL PARTIES, UM, AND, UH, PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER.
SO THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, UNLESS YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO THE BUDGETS, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UH, I, I THINK I ONLY HAVE TWO.
UM, SO ARE YOU INCREASING YOUR STAFF FROM THIS YEAR? NOT THIS, NOT THE SALARIES, JUST THE NUMBERS.
AND THEN LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS THAT I SEE HERE, THAT THE BUDGET THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING FOR 25 IS LESS THAN WHAT YOU REQUESTED FOR 24 IN TERMS OF STAFFING OR IN TERMS OF WHAT? THE WHOLE BUDGET.
BECAUSE I'M LOOKING HERE AND IT'S, I SEE, UH, PARKS, ADD PARKS, REC, PARKS, MAINTENANCE.
AND LAST YEAR IT WAS 1,000,100 $57,000 AND 119 THIS YEAR FOR ADMINISTRATION, IT DROPPED BY A HUNDRED THOUSAND AND THEN YOU INCREASED THE MAINTENANCE BY 5,000.
BUT EVEN WITH THOSE TWO, UM, CHANGES, YOU STILL ARE ASKING LESS THAN WHAT YOU YES, MA'AM.
WE HAD A YEAH, AND THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
I'M JUST, YEAH, WE, I MEAN, I MEAN, EVERYTHING THAT YOU, THAT YOU'RE SHARING WITH US, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING THINGS WORK AND I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS.
BUT IN OUR REQUEST, WE ARE, WE HAVE AN OPERATING ABOUT 205,000 THAT WE ACT, ACTUALLY HAVE TO HAVE TO OPERATE.
UM, BUT THEN WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT 63, 60 $4,000 IN ORDER FOR US TO ADVANCE AND TRY TO OFFER MORE ACTIVITIES.
SO, AND I, AND I'M ALSO MAKING AN ASSUMPTION THAT, UH, THIS, THIS, THE, THE SALARIES HAVE SOME TYPE OF PERCENTAGE INCREASE, RIGHT.
FOR NEXT YEAR, 3%, NO, NONE OF THAT IN THERE.
SALARY INCREASES WILL BE A SEPARATE ITEM FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER COUNTYWIDE.
SO ALL OF THE SALARIES ARE GOING TO BE REFLECTIVE OF THE ACTUAL SALARIES THIS YEAR.
UNLESS WHENEVER THE BOARD DOES WITH SALARY REQUESTS WILL THEN GO OUT TO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.
SO, UM, SO WE HAVE LIKE A LITTLE CONTINGENCY, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHEN WE, WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS,
UM, I, A QUESTION MR. JAMESON.
UM, THIS IS REALLY MAYBE A QUESTION ABOUT CLEAR GOV MORE SO THAN
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A LOT OF COLUMNS IN HERE.THERE'S AN FY 25 REQUESTED, UH, BRACKET ONE.
THERE'S AN FYI REQUESTED BRACKET TWO AS AN FYI DEPARTMENT REQUEST.
UM, SO WHAT'S, WHAT'S WHAT
THAT'S THE COLUMN THAT WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT FOR NEW DEPARTMENTAL REQUESTS.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND HIDE.
AND THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
UM, ALRIGHT, SO WE, SO THERE'S, EVERYTHING FLOWS INTO THE YELLOW, SO THE YELLOW IS WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN THE FIRST ONE AND, AND THIS YELLOW ONE IS, WAS INTERNAL IN THE ADMINISTRATION.
IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL IN THE TOTAL COPY.
SO THAT, SO IF IT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S HERE, THAT'S, THAT'S THE FIRST, THAT WAS THE FIRST PASS WITH THE DEPARTMENT TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND THEN YOUR TEAM KIND OF DID SOME WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT AND THEN IT EVENTUALLY GETS TO THIS, THIS YELLOW COLUMN.
ONE OF THE THINGS PARKS DID THIS PAST YEAR, A YEAR AGO WAS CONSOLIDATE THEIR OPERATION OVER AT THE YOUTH CENTER WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
AND THAT HAD SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS WITH REFLECTING THIS NEXT OH GOOD.
YOU HAVE A NICE FACILITY THERE.
I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF, AND IT MADE ROOM FOR THE, FOR THE, THE NEW YOUTH CENTER TOO, SO.
I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
MR. STAN MEYER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE.
I ECHO VICKI'S REMARKS THOUGH ON, UM, THE LOWER REQUEST.
ALRIGHT, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WE CAN HAVE IT ALL NOW THAT
I I KNOW THIS IS NO, SO YOU THINK THE YOU, BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING FIRST YOU GET, YOU GET EVERYTHING IN THE LAST, THE LAST NO, DIDN'T SEE YOUR REACTIONS.
THE LAST PERSON YOU'RE LAUGHING, I'M SMILING.
I'M NAILS THIS IS WISH THERE WAS MONEY TO GO AROUND TO EVERYBODY FOR EVERYTHING THEY WANT.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, I GUESS I DO, I DO HAVE QUESTION.
IT'S ABOUT THAT, THAT PART, THAT ATHLETIC COMPLEX.
I THINK YOU JUST SAID, UM, GO REVIEW THE TIMING ON THAT AGAIN.
'CAUSE I THOUGHT YOU JUST SAID IT WOULD START IN OCTOBER.
WELL, IT'S A THREE YEAR, IT'LL BE A THREE YEAR COMMITMENT OF THE STATE OR, OR YEAH.
I MEAN WE HAVE TO WHEN, AND JANE WILL BRING IT UP AND IF SHE WANTS ME TO BE AT THAT MEETING, I'D BE GLAD TO COME, COME WITH YOU.
BUT, UM, WORKING WITH THE DCR AND WE DID THAT YEARS AND YEARS AGO, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH OUR SKATE PARK, IT WAS A THREE YEAR COMMITMENT.
UM, WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY AT THE TIME HAVE THE FUNDING FOR IT, BUT AFTER THE, BETWEEN THE SECOND AND THIRD YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE MONEY FOR IT.
BUT IT IS A THREE YEAR PICTURE.
I MEAN, WE HAVE THE MONEY, UM, BUT JUST DOZING THE GROUND AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WE CAN DO WHATEVER, WHATEVER WE WANT DO.
WE CAN, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF GROUNDWORK.
USUALLY THE FIRST YEAR IS JUST TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY UP FRONT KNOWING EXACTLY THE TIMETABLE WHEN YOU WANT TO START, WHEN YOU WANT TO FINISH.
AND IS THE DESIGN, IS THAT DESIGN FINAL OR IS THAT A CONCEPT DESIGN, OR WHAT IS THAT? THERE'S NO PICKLEBALL COURTS.
UH, WE'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR THREE YEARS AND IT'S, IT'S GOT A WAYS TO GO AND WE KEEP GETTING NEW DESIGN REQUIREMENTS, ET CETERA.
AND TERRAN WORKED ON IT A LONG TIME AND JANE AND TERRAN HAVE BOTH BEEN WORKING ON IT A LONG TIME.
BUT, BUT SO IT'S GOT A WAYS TO GO.
BUT RELATIVELY SPEAKING, IT'S AROUND THE CORNER.
OH, IT IS ACTUALLY FAILED TO MENTION EARLIER.
IT IS UP IN FOR GOVERNMENT TIME SLASH UM, MR. GOVERNMENT TIME.
BUT THIS, IT IS, WE, THE IDEA OF DEVELOPING A REGIONAL PARK DATING BACK TO WHEN THE COUNTY DID BUY THE PROPERTY, UM, IT'S, IT IS A VERY GOOD INVESTMENT OVER TIME.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HEARD OF FISHNET AND WHAT, WHAT IT BROUGHT TO THE TABLE BACK IN THE SEVENTIES AND EARLY EIGHTIES.
BUT, UM, WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH, WITH THE MASTER PLAN AND WHAT WE'VE DONE WORKING WITH THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE WITH PARKS AND REC HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO, UH, WITHOUT TAXPAYERS FUNDS THROUGH GRANTS AND THINGS AND CONTRIBUTIONS.
IT'S WORKED OUT WELL FOR US FOR THOSE WHO'VE BEEN UP THERE AND SEEN IT.
SO YEAH, I'D LIKE TO, UM, WE'RE VERY INTERESTED IN THAT.
IF NO OTHER QUESTIONS, WE APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU.
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SO I DUNNO IF YOU NEED THIS I DO.[D. Airport/Public Works/Sanitary Districts - Budget Request]
THE AIRPORT EXPENDITURES AND REVENUE ARE THE LAST TWO PIECES IN YOUR PACKET.ARE YOU STARTING WITH THE AIRPORT? YES.
MIGHT AS WELL FINISH SINCE WE, UM, HAD SO MANY, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR IT.
YOU, YOU'VE GOT ALL THAT INFORMATION IN YOUR HEAD.
I'VE BEEN STARING AT CLEAR GOV AND DR.
JAMESON'S QUESTIONS WERE REALLY GOOD, BUT I'VE BEEN STARING AT THOSE THINGS ALL DAY.
UM, I DO HAVE, UM, SOME HANDOUTS.
ZACH, IF YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD AND HAND OUT ON THE, THERE'S SOME MY CHARTS.
UM, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING AND CLEAR GOV IS THE CHARTS THAT I MAKE OFF THE NUMBERS YOU CAN'T SEE.
AND THAT'S BASICALLY, UM, I'M THE BIGGEST BUDGETS IS THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET.
SO I, I HAVE THE, UH, I HAVE A GRAPH THAT KIND OF SHOWS YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THE TOP OF THE BUDGET.
AND THEN, UM, AND THEN I'VE ALSO DONE A, UH, UH, IN ONE OF THE CLEAR GOV, UM, UM, CHARTS WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF PROJECT OUT.
YOU CAN SEE YOUR 24 AMENDED, YOU CAN SEE YOUR 25 REQUESTS AND PERCENTAGES.
SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT AND I WANTED TO SHARE THAT.
AND IF I'M CORRECT, IJ IT JUST, UH, DAWNED ON ME, DR.
DALEY, MR. STAMA NEEDS TO TELL US WHY HE'S NOT HERE.
IS THAT SAME FOR WORK SESSION? AS FOR IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
JUST HAVE THAT HE CAN SAY WHERE HE'S GOT THE SCREENING.
THAT IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, UH, MR. STA UM, SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHY YOU'RE REMOTE TONIGHT.
I'M, I'M REMOTE TONIGHT BECAUSE MY PROFESSIONAL, UH, UH, WORK HAS TAKEN ME DOWN TO ATLANTA.
UM, AND I COULD NOT GET BACK IN TIME FOR THE MEETING.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, IF YOU WANT ME TO GO, I DO HAVE A QUITE A LENGTHY PRESENTATION.
IF, IF YOU DESIRE ME TO GO INTO IT OR YOU WANT MORE DETAIL THAT I CAN PULL UP.
UM, THAT KIND OF COVERS, 'CAUSE I HAVE AIRPORT, WE HAVE ALL THE, UM, GENERAL FUNDS, THEN WE HAVE SANITARY DISTRICTS.
SO I MAY REFERENCE, ARE YOU ABLE TO PULL THAT UP? ZACH? DID YOU GET IT IF I, I SENT IT TO YOU BY EMAIL IF POSSIBLE.
UM, SO LOOKING AT THE AIRPORT, WE DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE, UM, ON THAT BUDGET.
UM, AND REALLY NOT A LOT OF CHANGE OVERALL OTHER THAN THE COUNTY HAS TAKEN OVER, UM, FUEL CELLS AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A FULL YEAR OF ADDITIONAL REVENUES.
SO, UM, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND I, AND I TRIED TO DO A SUBCATEGORY TO, TO JUST THE BREAK THAT DOWN, UM, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED IT, BUT, UM, BUT THE, UM, THE FUEL SALES, I MEAN, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN PROFITING AN AVERAGE OVER TWO GRAND A MONTH FROM OUR FUEL SALES.
AND, AND OUR GOAL HAS BEEN, UM, TO, UH, BE THE LOWEST IN THE AREA, UM, WON, WON THE FUEL SALES.
UM, AND, AND I ACTUALLY DID A LITTLE, UM, COMPARISON ON THAT A WHILE BACK AS WE LOOKED AT IT, WHAT OUR PROFIT WOULD BE AND, AND YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN, WE HAVE ROOM THERE IF WE WANT TO GO UP OR DOWN OR IF WE NEED TO, UH, CHANGE, BUT IT HAS BROUGHT IN SOME, UM, PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE, I THINK AND, AND, AND BEEN A GOOD STRATEGY.
UM, AND THEN OUR, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE'VE TAKEN ON, UM, IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, UM, MORE OF, UH, THE, OUR OWN DUTIES, UM, WITH OUR SUPERINTENDENT.
UM, SO WE'RE HANDLING MAINTENANCE, ET CETERA.
I REALLY HAVEN'T, UM, ASKED FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN PUTTING THAT MONEY IN THE AMEND, UM, THE LINE ITEMS TO SHOW YOU WHERE THE REVENUE GOES IN EXPENDITURES.
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I DON'T THINK IT'S TOO COMPLICATED.WE REALLY HAVEN'T CHANGED A WHOLE LOT FROM LAST YEAR, BUT I'M GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND I MAY HAVE TO WALK OVER THERE AND LOOK BECAUSE I COULDN'T PRINT OFF THAT CLEAR GOV TOO.
UM, AND I CAN'T READ MY LAPTOP
I GOT A COUPLE, UH, QUESTIONS.
SO THE BUDGET IS INCREASING BY 83 K.
AND THIS IS AN ENTERPRISE ACCOUNT, SO I KNOW YEP.
IT WE'RE, UH, THE LOT, THE LIBRARY, THE AIRPORT IS SELF-SUFFICIENT.
SO THE REVENUE COMES FROM THE RENTAL OF THE HANGERS.
AND, YOU KNOW, ALL, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DO.
SO, UM, IF SINCE OUR REVENUE INCREASED BECAUSE OF THE FUEL CELLS YES.
SO THAT'S LIKE WHAT, 2,420 4,000 EXTRA AND REVENUE.
WE STILL HAVE A BALANCE OF THE, OF, OF THE INCREASE.
SO I KNOW IN THE FUTURE WHERE, UH, THE AIRPORT'S LOOKING AT BUILDING HANGERS OUT THERE RIGHT, RIGHT.
THIS INCREASE, IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE PUT ASIDE ONCE YOU GET THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY DONE AND ALL THAT TO, TO BUILD THE HANGERS? YES.
AND, AND WE ACTUALLY JUST HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK, UM, WITH, UH, DEPARTMENT OF AVIATION AND FAA, UM, AND WE ARE, UM, ON TRACK WITH, UM, ACTUALLY THE INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING, UM, TO HELP US WITH THOSE FACILITIES AND IN THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING WOULD BE ABLE TO SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, OUR MISSION.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, WANNA GET INTO IT RIGHT NOW, BUT YOU KNOW, DR.
DALEY MENTIONED WE HAVE ALREADY PAID OFF OUR PREVIOUS HANGING LOANS.
UM, SO IF WE NEEDED TO, UM, THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING, UM, WE WOULD VERY EASILY BE ABLE TO PAY RIGHT.
A LOAN WITH THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING LIKE YOU'RE ASKING.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE INCREASE IN, IN MM-HMM,
THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
SO WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE ON TRACK THERE.
AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UH, IF YOU, AND I KNOW FOR THE, FOR THE NEW GENTLEMAN, UM, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE WERE, WE ACTUALLY, UM, GOT A FEDERAL GRANT DURING COVID FOR, UH, PAVEMENT REHAB AND STRIPING, UH, CRACK CEILING.
SO WE HAD TO PUSH OFF OUR RUNWAY RECONSTRUCTION.
SO THIS YEAR WE'LL BE IN THE DESIGN PHASE MM-HMM.
SO YOU, YOU DON'T FORESEE ANY MAJOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS NEXT YEAR FOR THE AIRPORT? I, I FORESEE LIKE A NEW, THE SEPTIC TANK
I THINK I FORESEE THE HANG THE HANGERS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
HANGERS I THINK WILL BE OUR NEXT BIG ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
UM, WE'LL DO DESIGN FOR THE RUNWAY AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO THE RUNWAY REHABILITATION.
BUT MY HOPE IS EVERYTHING IS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
WE'LL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SEE HANGERS.
GOING THROUGH YOUR LIGHT ITEMS. UM, I DIDN'T SEE A LINE ON HIM FOR ANY ATTORNEY FEE SERVICES.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S UNDER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES OR NOT BECAUSE I KNOW THE LAST COUPLE YEARS SINCE WE'RE WE'RE GETTING, UH, MORE EXPOSURE OUT AT THE AIRPORT WITH DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, EVENTS MM-HMM.
AND, UM, SO I WAS WONDERING IF WE SHOULD PUT A, A BUDGET LINE ITEM FOR THOSE TYPE OF SERVICES BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE FUTURE I, UH, 'CAUSE I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE VISION IS CHANGING A LITTLE BIT OUT THERE FOR THE AIRPORT AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT IT'S GONNA BE MORE TOURISTS ORIENTED AND MORE EVENTS.
AND SO I, I REALLY WOULD LIKE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE GET WITH ALYSSA OR JANE OR WHOEVER TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH WE SHOULD PUT ASIDE TO PAY FOR THE COUNTY.
NOW, JUST TO, UH, TO CLARIFY WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THE ATTORNEY SERVICES ARE FOR THE COUNTY AND NOT FOR THE BUSINESSES OUT THERE.
NOT, THEY CAN'T, THEY CANNOT USE OUR ATTORNEY TO, TO, UH, WRITE AGREEMENTS OR WHATNOT.
IT'S ONLY FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO REVIEW ANY DOCUMENTS THAT THE COUNTY'S GONNA HAVE TO SIGN FOR ANY TYPE OF ISSUE.
SO IF YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD, UM, BENEFIT US AND, AND ON OUR CURRENT PATH, I I MEAN WE COULD EITHER INCREASE OR, UH, AND WE MAY NOT HAVE TO, I KNOW THE COMMISSION'S CURRENTLY LOOKING AT SOME OTHER OPTIONS MM-HMM.
SO I THINK THAT WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, UM, WE COULD SIMPLY MAKE A LINE ITEM ADJUSTMENT AND JUST
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YEAH.BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE OKAY.
WELL, I, I, I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S TRUE.
YOU KNOW, WE'LL JUST, WE'LL JUST ADD IT, YOU KNOW, ON THAT LINE ITEM.
OH, I THOUGHT YOU MEANT THAT NOT NO MA'AM.
THE SERVICES BECAUSE NO, I MEANT, I MEANT WITH THAT AMOUNT AND THAT LIGHT ON YEAH.
BASED ON OUR CURRENT DISCUSSIONS AND CONVERSATIONS AND WHERE WE'RE RIGHT.
BECAUSE THAT LEADS INTO MY NEXT QUESTION IS THAT I KNOW THAT, UM, THE AIRPORT IS GONNA GET A COURTESY CAR.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, IF WHERE, WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THE TYPE OF LIABILITY, THE LEGAL PART OF THE LIABILITIES.
SO IF, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE ATTORNEY FEE.
YOU KNOW, HOWEVER YOU'RE GONNA GO.
YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE A WAIVER, WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE OUR ATTORNEY TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND THAT KIND OF THING.
SO, UM, AND I INCREASED THOSE LINE ITEMS FOR THE VEHICLES AND TALKED TO FINANCE PARTNER DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE INSURANCE.
YEAH, THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION IS WHICH LINE ITEM COVERS THE MAINTENANCE AND EVERYTHING FOR THE COURTESY VEHICLE MAINTENANCE IS VEHICLE MAINTENANCE? IS THAT WHERE IT IS? YEAH.
32, WAS IT, UH, $3,830 IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
VEHICLE MOTOR VEHICLE REPAIRS AND MM-HMM.
AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE, I DON'T SEE JUST, UH, ANYTHING ELSE THAT, AND, AND THE GOOD THING OUT THERE, WE ONLY HAVE ONE VEHICLE EXCLUDING OUR COURTESY CAR THAT WE'LL RECEIVE.
SO YEAH, THAT TRUCK IS RELATIVELY, IT'S NOT BRAND NEW, BUT IT GETS VERY LOW USAGE.
WELL, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY WITH THE, THE PROGRAM PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED, I THINK THE, IT WAS $3,000 MORE A YEAR TO, TO MAINTAIN THE, UM, THE, THE NEW VEHICLE.
I THINK THAT WAS THEIR ESTIMATE.
SO YOU PUT THEIR ESTIMATE IN THIS BUDGET TO MAKE SURE.
YEAH, I MEAN I ESTIMATE BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE SPENT AND OUR HISTORY WITH OUR VEHICLE, ADDING ANOTHER VEHICLE TO THAT AND THAT'S HOW I PLANNED IT OUT.
SO WE'RE, HOW DOES THAT COMPARE, HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE, UM, AIRPORT COMMISSION? WAS IT LESS OR MORE? WELL, WE, IS IT LESS? WELL NO, WE WON'T BE ANY MORE THAN WHAT WAS GIVEN TO THE COMMISSION, UH, AS FAR AS WHAT WILL BE USED THERE.
WELL, FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH YEP.
WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE AIRPORT COMMISSION WOULD BE THE BASELINE IN MY OPINION.
BUT IF YOU THINK THAT'S DIFFERENT, THEN FINE.
UM, BUT THE WAY THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IT SET UP, I MEAN, I CAN TRY TO DO A SUBCATEGORY, BUT IT'S SET UP AS THIS NEW CHART OF ACCOUNTS, WHICH I'M STILL TRYING TO NAVIGATE.
I HAVE A VEHICLE AND A VEHICLE.
I CAN DO, IF I NEED TO DEEP DIVE, I'LL PROBABLY MAKE HIM DO IT AND DEEP DIVE INTO RECEIPTS.
I JUST WANT, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER IS IN THIS BUDGET IS GONNA COVER IT AND, AND THAT THE AIRPORT COMMISSION KNOWS.
SO I MEAN, IF WE, IF WE HAVE A BLOWOUT AND, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO DO AN EXTRA $1,500 REPAIR, THEN I WOULD NEED TO SAY, HEY, COMMISSION, WE ARE, WE HAVE A REPAIR NEED OF THIS, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO MOVE FROM, UH, ONE LINE OWNER TO ANOTHER.
I, I UNDER, I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, MIKE, IT'S JUST OKAY.
JUST HAVE IT THERE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME AND ASK FOR TRANSFERS
WELL, BASED ON THEIR SUGGESTION AND WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN JAKE'S VEHICLE HISTORY, UM, AS LONG AS THE AIRPORT COMMISSION IS HAPPY WITH THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT YOU'VE PUT IN YOUR BUDGET, I'M OKAY.
I NOTICED, UM, AT LEAST ON A PROJECTED BASIS, THE REVENUE IS EXACTLY EQUAL TO EXPENDITURES.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SERVED BECAUSE IT'S AN INDEPENDENT FUND.
SO WHENEVER THE BOARD ADOPTS OR THE AIRPORT, YOUR REVENUES AND YOUR EXPENDITURES MUST BALANCE.
IT CAN'T BE, UM, CAN'T HAVE MORE REVENUE THAN EXPENDITURES.
YOU CAN, YOU MAY KEEP MORE REVENUES, EXCUSE ME, YOU MAY KEEP MORE REVENUES THAN EXPENDITURES AND YOU HAVE A BALANCE IN THE FUND, BUT WHAT YOU BUDGET FOR THE YEAR, THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT ARE THE SAME.
THAN ANY SURPLUS REVENUE THAT IS RECEIVED GOES INTO YOUR FUND BALANCE, THEREFORE FUND BALANCE RATHER THAN GENERAL.
IS THERE AN AIRPORT FUND BALANCE NOW? YES.
I WOULD LIKELY SAY WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE ADDITIONAL REVENUE, BUT I DON'T IS IT EVER PLANNED THOUGH? I MEAN, DO WE EVER, DO WE, IS IT OR ARE WE ALWAYS PLANNING TO HAVE, HAVE NO, THEY'RE PARTICIPATING THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE MORE AIRPORT REVENUE THAT WE DO NOT BUDGET BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING MONEY AWAY FOR THESE, UH, PAYERS TO PUT INTO THE FUND.
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WE ONLY BUDGET WHAT THE AMOUNT, LEVEL OF WHAT WE SPEND.IT'S JUST LIKE YOUR, YOUR GENERAL FUND WHEN YOU'RE ALL DONE, UH, YOU WERE LOOKING AT 97 MILLION IN THERE A WHILE AGO.
THAT 97 MILLION IS GOING TO SHOW 97 MILLION IN REVENUE ALSO, YOU STILL HAVE YOUR GENERAL FUND BALANCE THAT IS THE BOARD'S RESERVE.
BUT YOU DON'T BUDGET THAT EVERY YEAR.
EACH OF YOUR FUNDS IS GONNA BE BALANCED LEVEL.
SO WHATEVER, UM, YOU SAID THERE WAS SOME, UH, IN THE, IN THERE THAT WILL ROLL OVER FOR THESE PROJECTS, THE HANGERS AND THINGS YES.
INSTEAD OF BEING ROLLED INTO THIS NUMBER, THIS CORRECT.
UM, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE LIBRARY SORT OF, WHERE YOU HAVE A RESERVE FUND OVER HERE THAT YOU KEEP AND YOU KEEP BUILDING YOUR MONEY DIRECTLY INTO THERE SO THAT WHEN, UH, THE COMMISSIONER COMES IN AND TELLS YOU THAT, UH, VEHICLE ASSESSMENTS ARE GOING TO BE DOWN SPOT 6% THIS YEAR, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO COVER.
SO IT'S, YOU KEEP THIS RESERVE AND WE HAVE A RESERVE NOW AT THE AIRPORT COMMISSION THAT'S PLANNED COMMISSION HAS A RESERVE GONNA GOT PLANNED FOR HANGERS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO WE, IT'S LIKELY THAT WE COULD EXCEED THE REVENUE PROJECTION.
UM, IT'S STILL RELATIVELY NEW.
UM, WE'VE BEEN VERY CONSISTENT WITH, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THE HANGERS.
YOU HEARD ABOUT THOSE, BUT YEAH, THE FUEL AND THE FUEL CELLS ARE FAIRLY, FAIRLY NEW, I GUESS.
AND THEN THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE SHEET YOU HAVE THERE, UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT SHEET, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT WAS PRINTED OFF OF THAT.
SO, SO I ACTUALLY PUT SUBCATEGORIES, IF YOU EXPAND IT, ONE, YOU'RE, UM, IT SHOULD SHOW YOU FUEL.
AND I, I TRIED TO BREAK IT DOWN, THAT WAS ONE OF THE REQUESTS OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SO THAT YOU COULD SEE, HEY, THIS IS THE FUEL FOR RESALE AND THIS IS THE FUEL THAT WE'RE USING TO BASICALLY HEAT THE BUILDING.
AND UM, SO THAT'S THE FUND THAT YOU SAY WE'RE MM-HMM.
UM, WELL, AND I, LET ME SEE, LEMME GRAB MY GLASSES HERE.
I, I RECENTLY DID A LITTLE BIT OF ANALYSIS ON IT AND, UM, AND, AND WE STARTED, UM, AND BACK IN OCTOBER OF 22, UM, AND ON THREE LOADS, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, OUR FUEL COST WAS 117,000 $192 AND OUR PROFIT WAS $16,618.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I WAS LOOKING AT WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY SOLD, WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GAINING, JUST COMING UP WITH A MONTHLY, UM, FROM JULY 22 TO NOVEMBER 23, OUR ACTUAL PROFIT WAS $11,443.
SO WE WERE WATCHING, YOU KNOW, THE SALES AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE WERE PROJECTING OUR PERSONNEL COSTS, WHICH ARE VERY MINIMAL.
UM, OUR SUPERINTENDENT WILL GO OUT DAILY AND, UM, INSPECT A FUEL AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE MINIMAL TIME.
OUR ADMIN ADMIN, UM, YOU KNOW, MS. HAYES, SHE'LL, OCCASIONALLY WE HAVE A PRO KEY AND, AND WE WILL, WE'LL ESTIMATE THAT TIME AS WELL, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR HER TIME JUST TO SHOW AN ACTUAL PROFIT.
SO I THINK WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD WITH FUEL AT THIS POINT.
UM, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE, THE COMMISSION AND, UM, AS AT LARGE HAS DECIDED, HEY, WE WOULD LIKE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TRY TO BRING MORE PEOPLE HERE AND, AND YOU KNOW, AND IN CONJUNCTION, YOU KNOW, THE FBO CURRENTLY MENTIONED THAT AS WELL, YOU KNOW, HEY, LET'S LOWER OUR FUEL PRICE.
SO WE TRY TO LOOK AT A 50 MILE RADIUS AND, YOU KNOW, AND STILL MAKE MONEY.
UM, AND WE, WE SELL IT CHEAPER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE, AND WE DO GET SOME PEOPLE WHO WILL FLY IN.
SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, WITH THE RECENT IMPENDING CHANGES THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE WITH THE FBO AND STUFF, IS THERE, IS THERE ANY, UH, UH, HAVE, HAVE, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED, UH, POSSIBLY A, AN AN ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME OR PART-TIME PERSON OUT THERE TO BE ABLE TO HELP? WELL, I THINK THAT THE COMMISSION KIND OF ALLUDED TO THAT POTENTIALLY.
I, I DON'T THINK WE'VE REALLY HAD A SIT DOWN YEAH.
BUT, UM, IN MY MIND, YOU KNOW, UM, TO MRS. COOK'S QUESTION IN THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD, THAT FUNDING, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SIT DOWN AND PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE COULD MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT TO PERSONNEL IF NECESSARY.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THEN WE COULD PROBABLY DIAL IN OUR, I MEAN, I THINK ONCE WE HAVE,
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YOU KNOW, A LITTLE MORE, UM, DATA, I MEAN WE, I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE STAYING ON TRACK, BUT IF WE CONTINUE TO BRING IN MORE FOLKS FOR FUEL AND, UM, WHEN WE EXPAND OUR HANGERS, THEN, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S SOME OTHER INTEREST IN BUSINESS OUT THERE.I'VE, I'VE HEARD RUMORS OF, UH, TWO OTHER BUSINESSES OF, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE INTERESTED IN COMING.
UM, SO I'M, I'M THINKING AS WE GET MORE PROFIT, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA NEED, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL HELP.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S TOUGH TO, YOU KNOW, MAY, IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE SIT DOWN AND DISCUSS.
MAYBE IT'S SOMEBODY THAT WE HAVE ALREADY THAT WE CAN WORK, YOU KNOW, PART-TIME, YOU KNOW, THERE AND PART-TIME SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
SO ANY CHANGE, THE AIRPORT COMMISSION IS GONNA MEET 2020 EIGHTH.
AND SO YOU'LL HAVE A RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS AS FAR AS ANY CHANGE IN PERSONNEL, ET CETERA, FOR THIS NEXT YEAR BEFORE YOU ADOPT YOUR BUDGET.
SO WE KNOW, SO YOU DON'T HAVE IT IN THERE, WHATEVER IT'S GONNA BE.
BECAUSE IF, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M HEARING IS, IS THAT MAYBE WE MAY BE ABLE TO ABSORB ANOTHER PERSON AND MAYBE WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, SO IF IF THE, IF THE DIRECTION IS, YOU KNOW, TO, IF, IF THE AIRPORTS, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS LOOKING AT GOING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND HOW TO, UM, MANAGE THE, THE AIRPORT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED TO KNOW ANY INCREASES BEFORE WE APPROVE OUR BUDGET.
YOU KNOW, AND WOULD THEY HAVE THAT 21,000 THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING TO, TO AUGMENT MM-HMM.
IT HAS TO BE BUDGETED TO THE RIGHT EYE SO THE BOARD CAN APPROVE IT.
SPEAKING OF THAT 21,000, I HAD A A QUESTION ACTUALLY, IF, UM, IF ALYSSA IS DRIVING THE, THE CLEAR GOV, I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD SCROLL UP TO, UM, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND THEN, UM, AND THEN, UH, OPEN UP THE DROPDOWN THERE.
UM, YEAH, SO I, ON THE FAR RIGHT IT HAS THE 21,000, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF NOTHING CHANGES, THAT'S, THAT'S THE 1750 A MONTH.
UM, BUT MY QUESTION IS ACTUALLY ABOUT FY 24 ACTUAL, WHERE IT'S AT 37,000 ALREADY FOR JULY THROUGH DECEMBER.
AND, AND I'M JUST WONDERING, UH, IS THAT, UH, THAT AMOUNT, UM, RELATED TO, UM, FBO AS WELL? UH, OR IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE IN THERE? NO, SIR.
THAT, THAT IT'S ACTUALLY RELATED TO US, UH, REIMBURSABLE GRANTS AND THE CHANGE IN THE CHART OF ACCOUNTS AND HOW WE CODE THOSE THINGS.
SO IT WOULD BE FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO THE AVIATION CONSULTANT, UM, WHICH USED TO BE APPLIED IN MORE OF A GRANT LINE ITEM.
BUT, UM, FINANCE HAS ASKED THAT WE PUT THOSE EXPENDITURES IN THE SAME CHART OF ACCOUNT ORDER, AND, YOU KNOW, AND IT, IT CREATES A LITTLE BIT OF A CONFUSION, UM, AT TIMES, BUT OKAY.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT IS FOR.
SO WE HAVE, UM, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, I GUESS, WELL, IN THE LAST YEAR WE RECEIVED, UH, 17,000 STATE GRANT FOR THE BEGINNING OF, UM, THE HANGERS, UM, THE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL CATEGORY EXCLUSION FOR THE HANGERS.
BUT I'M GLAD TO CHANGE THE PROCESS, HOWEVER, SO DESIRED IF MS. SCOTT WANTS ME TO, OR I, I, I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND.
AND, AND I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE IT 'CAUSE I'VE ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF DANCED WITH THAT SEVERAL TIMES AND, UM, YEAH.
BUT I'M GLAD TO DO IT HOWEVER YOU GUYS LIKE, SO I JUST WANTED TO, TO VERIFY OR, UH, THE, UH, THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES ON THE AIRCRAFT YES, SIR.
THAT GOES INTO THE AIRPORT FUND ALSO.
THEY, THEY TAKE THAT AMOUNT AND DR.
DALEY, YOU KNOW, TAKES THAT AMOUNT AND HE, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, IT SPENT TWO YEARS, I GUESS.
HE SAID, HEY, WE WILL, WE WILL PUT THAT BACK IN.
THERE WAS SOME, UM, DISCUSSION OF, HEY, YOU KNOW, OTHER PLACES ARE CHEAPER AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND HE HAS HIS RV TALK AND, YOU KNOW, BUT GUESS WHAT? WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT MONEY AND WE'RE GONNA PUT IT RIGHT BACK INTO THIS FACILITY AT THE AIRPORT.
YOU KNOW, JUST TO, JUST TO KIND OF, UH, TOUCH ON THAT.
THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE REASON WHY THE OTHER FOLKS ARE, ARE CHEAPER IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE, UH, THEY HAVE COMPETITION SAY LIKE, UH, WITH WINCHESTER, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT LEESBURG, PLACES LIKE THAT.
AND, UH, SO I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, LEAVING THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES WHERE THEY'RE AT, RIGHT.
AND, UH, I MEAN, WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, FOLKS STILL ON OUR HANGAR LIST.
UM, UM, WE MENTIONED THAT THE OTHER NIGHT, THERE'S A BIG HANGAR LIST.
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I, I DON'T ANTICIPATE HAVING ANY ISSUES AS WE BUILD 'EM, FILLING THEM UP.LOOK, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON AIRPORT? I'M JUST GLAD THE SEPTICS FIXED.
YEAH, WELL, IN SAYING THAT, THAT IS LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD, UM, AS YOU MENTIONED, PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, WE DO NEED TO, UM, CONSIDER AS WE LOOK AT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO FACILITIES THAT USE THE SAME SEPTIC TRAIN FIELD, AND THAT'S, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE AIRPORT.
SO WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT AND BE AWARE OF THAT.
UM, IN THE FUTURE, IF WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE STATIONED OR MORE PARTIES EVERY WEEK OVER THERE OR IN THE HALL, OR IF WE DECIDE WE'RE EXPANDING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE ON OUR SIDE, WE NEED TO BE PREPARED TO, AND, AND IT HAS BEEN STUDIED BEFORE.
IT'S BASED ON THE NUMBER OF FOLKS.
I THINK YOU HEAR THAT A LOT NOW IN YOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
BUT WE NEED TO SEE WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE THERE.
AND WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, FOR ANY CHANGES THAT MIGHT BE NECESSARY.
WHEN DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD START A STUDY? SHOULD WE JUST KIND OF SEE THIS YEAR HOW IT PLAYS OUT? WELL, I, WE DO HAVE SOME, UM, INFORMATION BASED ON WHEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS PUT THERE, WHAT THEIR USAGE WAS, YOU KNOW, AND IT MIGHT BE WORTH, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSING THAT, YOU KNOW, OKAY, WHAT ARE, AS WE PLAN, YOU KNOW, IF, IF MORE BUSINESSES ARE COMING, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE FILL THE BOX HANGERS WITH MORE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE FOLKS MAY WANT INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WALK THROUGH.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE SPOKE WITH, UM, THE ENGINEERS OVER ISSUES.
WE'VE, WE'VE DONE SOME, UM, PROBLEM CHASING, THERE'S DRIP SYSTEMS. YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, I, I MEAN, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S EVER TOO EARLY TO START PLANNING.
UM, IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE VISION IS, UM, FOR THE AIRPORT AND, AND YOU KNOW, HOW MANY FACILITIES, HOW MANY PEOPLE, UM, THAT WE HOPE TO HAVE THERE AS WE START THAT CONVERSATION.
BECAUSE IF, IF, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED HAVING EVENTS THERE, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
SO I'M SURE NEXT YEAR WE'RE GONNA AGAIN HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, THE, THE VETERAN, UH, GROUP COME OUT THERE AGAIN AND, AND YOU KNOW, THE OTHER TYPE OF, I THINKS THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER WHEELS, WINGS, AND WHEELS COMING UP AND, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WAS A BIG EVENT.
IT WAS A BIG EVENT, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAD JOHNNY BLUES, BUT, AND I, AND, AND I, I BELIEVE THAT AS WE GO FORWARD, IT'S GONNA GET LARGER AND LARGER, YOU KNOW, SO IF I, IF I MAY, TO OUR BOARD MEMBERS WHO WERE ON THE, UH, AIRPORT COMMISSION MAYBE TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE, UM, I KNOW IN THE PAST COUPLE, SEVERAL MONTHS, THAT'S WHY I KEEP BRINGING UP THE SEPTIC.
I GO OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, I'M WITH YOU.
SOMETHING ALWAYS WRONG WITH IT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND I, AND I'M NOT OUT THERE.
I'M NOT YOUR ENGINEER OR YOUR MAINTENANCE PERSON, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE REPEATABLE.
AND, AND WE HAVE, WE DO HAVE INSPECTIONS.
I THINK I JUST SENT MICHAEL THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING STUDY, DIDN'T I, JUST RECENTLY, AND WE COULD PROBABLY SHARE THAT WITH, UM, THE, THE COMMISSION TEAM AND RIGHT.
OUR BOARD, IT'S ON THE COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND, AND AS THEY MOVE FORWARD, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD STARTING POINT TO REVIEW.
BUT I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE MORE MAINTENANCE QUESTIONS, I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN IN THE GROUND AND I KNOW WE, WE, IT'S BEEN A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF THERE.
WE'VE DONE SOME MAJOR WORK TO TRY TO BANDAID IT, IN MY OPINION, BUT I COULD BE INCORRECT WITH MY, MY WORDS.
BUT ANYWAY, A LOT OF THOSE SYSTEMS ARE FANCY TODAY,
UM, IT'S LIKE A GIANT LITTER BOX AND DRIP, DRIP AND TANK HERE, AND WE'RE PUMPING BACKWARDS.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT? IT, IT TAKES A LOT OF, OF MONEY AND, AND MAINTENANCE.
UM, THEY COST A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN THEY USED TO.
UM, AND THAT GROUND OUT THERE DOESN'T PARK WELL.
WOULDN'T FOR, YOU KNOW, LARGE EVENTS LIKE, UM, THE WINGS AND WHEELS AND THINGS.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS GONNA GIVE, YOU KNOW, A PERMIT FOR HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE ANYWAY.
WOULDN'T WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE, I MEAN, FIX WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED, BUT WOULDN'T WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE THE PORTABLES? YES.
'CAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T FORESEE THE EVER BEING ABLE TO HAVE A SEPTIC SYSTEM RIGHT OUT THERE THAT BIG.
I MEAN IT'S, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH STALLS TO HANDLE.
WE DO KEEP A, A PORT UNIT OUT THERE YEAR ROUND ANYWAY FOR ANY EMERGENCY AFTER THAT'S A LONG TREK.
IF YOU'VE, YEAH, I DID HAVE A REQUEST FROM ONE USER TO PUT ONE DOWN AT THE FUEL FARM, BUT I DIDN'T REALLY THINK WE HAD THAT NEED YET, UM, TO HAVE ONE THERE ALL THE TIME.
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YEAH.'CAUSE I THINK WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TAKE A TOUR UP TO THE TERMINAL.
UM, WE HAVE PLENTY OF PLACES TO PARK THERE.
I HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL QUESTION ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING.
THIS IS GONNA BE THE EASIEST BUDGET REQUEST PROBABLY TO LOOK AT.
'CAUSE IT'S REVENUE NEUTRAL
BUT HOWEVER, A LOT OF, UH, TALK IS HAD ABOUT THE, THE, UH, POTENTIAL FOR AN AIRPORT TO BE AN ECONOMIC ENGINE.
AND IS THERE ANYTHING STRUCTURALLY LEGAL THAT MAKES THIS ALWAYS REVENUE NEUTRAL? OR IS IT, IS THIS A POTENTIAL, UH, REVENUE GENERATOR FOR THE COUNTY IN GENERAL? I MEAN, LIKE, UH, IF IT LIKE, JUST TO, TO, TO MAKE AN OBVIOUS EXAMPLE, LIKE THESE BIG NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF 150,000 OF FUEL SALES, WE HAD 300,000 OF FUEL CELLS.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT MAYBE THE COUNTY COULD HAVE $150,000 RE REVENUE STREAM? SO YOU 2, 2 2 SIDES TO THAT.
THERE ARE NUMEROUS AIRPORTS IN THIS AREA WHERE THE GENERAL FUND MAKES A CONTRIBUTION TO THE AIRPORT.
EXAMPLE BEING WARREN COUNTY, ALONG WITH FREDERICK AND WINCHESTER AND CLARK ALL CONTRIBUTE TO WINCHESTER INTERNATIONAL.
SO THAT'S TAX DOLLAR GOING INTO THE ENTERPRISE FUND.
YOU COULD TAKE YOUR EXCESS REVENUE AND DO IT LIKE, LIKE THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL DOES WITH THEIR UTILITIES.
WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR UTILITIES IN THE TOWN, YOU PAY A FEE AND 10% OF WHAT YOU PAY GOES BACK TO THE TOWN'S GENERAL FUND.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEIR BUDGET, THERE'S A TRANSFER FROM THE UTILITIES TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR SUPPORT, AND IT EQUALS 10%.
SO WHEN MY BILL'S $300, $30 GOES INTO THE TRANSFER, YOU COULD DECIDE THAT YOU WANTED TO TAKE MONEY FROM THE AIRPORT IF IT EVER BECAME THAT SIZE.
UM, IT'S NOT AT THAT SIZE AT THIS POINT, BUT IF AT SOME POINT, UH, IN THE PAST, THE TAX REVENUE, WHICH IS ABOUT 20,017 TO 20,000 FROM THE PLANES, YEAH, IT'S 20, IT'S LISTED AS 20.
THEN THAT, THAT MONEY USED TO GO TO THE GENERAL FUND.
SO THAT WAS A TRANSFER FROM AIRPORT ACTIVITY TO THE GENERAL FUND, BUT WE MOVED THAT TO THE AIRPORT TO SUPPORT THE AIRPORT, BUILDING THE FUND IN ORDER TO GET MONEY READY FOR IT TO BUILD THESE NEW HANGERS.
PRESENTLY, THE LEGAL STRUCTURE IS WHATEVER THEY BRING IN, IT'S THEIRS.
AND WE CHARGE AT TIMES WE WILL CHARGE IF, UH, IF GENERAL FUND ACTIVITIES GO OUT THERE, WE WILL CHARGE THAT ACTIVITY COST TO THE AIRPORT.
BUT IF IT, IF IT BECAME A WILDLY SUCCESSFUL MM-HMM.
YOU COULD AS A, IF IT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF AIRPORTS ARE ECONOMIC ENGINES AND, AND, UM, IF IT BECAME ONE, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED.
AND YOU COULD, YOU COULD USE THE EXCESS FUNDS TO THE GENERAL FUND TO SUPPORT THE FIRE STATION ACROSS THE, ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH IS THERE TO SUPPORT THOSE PLANES COMING IN.
WHEN YOU GOT PLANE, THE PLANE'S.
BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S SELF-SUSTAINING, WHICH IS GOOD.
AND HOPEFULLY IT DOES BECOME, UH, YOU KNOW, MORE, UH, WHAT MORE POPULAR, MORE, MORE TRAFFIC.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE IDEA, RIGHT? I MEAN, RIGHT.
IS THAT THE IDEA? IS THAT A LONG TERM GOAL? I THINK SO.
FACILITATE OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS WHO ARE AVIATION ENTHUSIASTS.
I, WELL, I AND MIKE, THAT'S OF COURSE A GOAL.
MIKE'S OPINION AND MIKE'S OPINION ONLY, IT'S BOTH.
I MEAN, IT HAS TO BE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY THAT'S HERE.
OF COURSE, COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY HAS CHANGED.
I'VE LIVED HERE MY WHOLE LIFE.
AND IT'S CHANGED TREMENDOUSLY.
I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE INFRASTRUCTURE GROWTH AND NORTHERN VIRGINIA MOVING THIS WAY.
UM, YOU HAVE A LOCAL COMMUNITY THERE, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED.
UM, I HAD A CALL THIS WEEK FROM, UH, NICK SABE IN WINCHESTER, UH, ABOUT A, A POTENTIAL, UM, BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M, HE'S ASKED ME IF I'D BE WILLING TO COME AND SIT IN ON A MEETING.
UM, THERE'S SOME FOLKS LOOKING FOR POTENTIAL AIRPORTS AND WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE FIT, THE SIZE, AND I DON'T KNOW
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ALL THE DETAILS YET, BUT MM-HMM.AND MR. BUTLER'S, YOU KNOW, MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO PROVIDE SOME FUNDS DOWN THERE, BUT YOU KNOW, HEY, WHAT, THIS COULD BE GOOD FOR US, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE'RE WILLING TO SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO GROW, YOU KNOW, AND WE WANNA SEE OTHER BUSINESSES COME HERE.
I MEAN, IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT P-H-I-P-H-I IS A GREAT PARTNER.
THERE COULD BE ANOTHER COPTER SERVICE IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT.
ONE'S GOING THIS WAY, ONE'S GOING THIS WAY, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WOULD DOUBLE THAT REVENUE, BUT WE WOULD NEED ANOTHER POD.
YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THERE, I THINK THAT FOR ME, THE ANSWER IS BOTH.
AND, AND IT HAS TO START HERE AND THE COMMISSION.
AND I THINK RIGHT NOW, THERE YOU ARE FOLKS WHO BELIEVE THAT, HEY, WE'RE, WE'RE READY FOR SOME PROGRESS AND WE ALSO CARE ABOUT THE TENANTS AND LET'S MAKE IT.
AND I, AND I THINK THE COMMISSION AND THE TENANTS REALLY HAVE BEEN GREAT ABOUT WORKING, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE GOALS AND, AND WORKING TOGETHER TOWARDS THOSE GOALS.
I WOULD SAY THE, THE GOLF COURSE WHEN I CAME ON THE BOARD, THE GOLF COURSE AND THE AIRPORT, WERE A MONEY PIT AND WE'VE TURNED BOTH OF THEM AROUND.
SO JUST, JUST ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU ON THE, UH, ON THE, THE TAXES, HOW THE VALUATIONS OF THE AIRCRAFT, HOW IS THAT DETERMINED? THE BOOK? YOU, YOU HIT ME REAL QUICK ON THAT ONE.
UM, CAN YOU, CAN YOU, IT'S A COMMISSIONER QUESTION.
SO, SO IT IS ON, SO YEAH, I, I, BUT IT'S LIKE THE WINTER EDITION OF THIS BOOK AND I, I DON'T REMEMBER THE BOOK ON THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I CAN FIND IT REAL QUICK IF YOU WANT ME TO.
I, I JUST WANTED, SHE HAS, BUT SHE DOES HAVE IT.
YOU CAN, AND I, NOW, I HAVEN'T LOOKED IT UP ON THE NEW WEBSITE PLATFORM, BUT I KNOW, I KNOW IT WAS ON THE OLD ONE WHEN YOU WENT TO YOUR PROPERTY AND AVIATION AIRPLANES OR THIS.
I THINK THE AIRPORT'S KIND OF FUN, HONESTLY.
I WASN'T SURE WHEN ED THREW ME START, START OUT WITH A GOOD ONE.
SO, YEAH, SO I MEAN IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN FUN.
I'VE, I'VE ENJOYED NAVIGATING THROUGH THE AIRPORT AND UM, YOU KNOW, ACT AND I TOLD ACTUALLY IN THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE MEETING THIS, THIS MORNING WHERE THEY WERE DOING THEIR CLASS, I, I TOLD 'EM, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, I DEAL WITH VDOT A LOT, BUT APARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WISE, THE FA AND DOAV, 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S 'CAUSE THEY'RE MUCH SMALLER.
YOU ACTUALLY, IT'S EASIER TO GET A LIVE PERSON, TO GET A REPLY, TO GET A RESPONSE.
AND, UM, I WAS REALLY AMAZED LAST WEEK I HAD LIKE, I THINK IT WAS ALMOST 20 PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM.
UM, AND COVID, WE, EVERYTHING WAS ONLINE AND THAT'S THE MOST I'VE EVER SEEN, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS SHOW UP IN PERSON.
AND UM, SO I THINK THAT SAYS SOMETHING FOR OUR COUNTY TOO, THAT THOSE FOLKS ARE WILLING TO COME HERE THAT KNOW, THEY KNOW THAT THE BOARD AND THE COMMISSION IS TRULY INTERESTED IN MAKING PROGRESS.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD SHOW UP THE WAY THEY DID IF WE WEREN'T MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
PUBLIC WORKS IN THE SANITARY DISTRICTS.
ARE YOU DOING THOSE IN COMBO? UM, WELL I THINK I'M, I'M GONNA START WITH THE GENERAL FUND.
SO PUBLIC WORKS AND IN THE SHEETS I GAVE YOU INCLUDE ALL OF THE, THE GENERAL FUND, UM, I GAVE YOU THE GRAPH AND, AND I'M, I'M STILL NAVIGATING, I'VE BEEN AGGRAVATING MEGAN IN THE BUDGET OFFICE ALL DAY LONG BECAUSE MY BUDGET STUFF DANCED A LITTLE BIT FOR, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAD SOME CHANGES AND, YOU KNOW, SO I WANTED TO PULL AND, AND I'M TRYING TO LEARN HOW TO USE THESE THINGS AND THESE TOOLS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SO I WAS LISTENING TO DR.
JANSON'S QUESTION, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND I'VE LEARNED, YOU KNOW, LIKE, OKAY, WHEN I, THE FIRST QUESTION I HAD WAS, I WAS TRYING TO PULL THESE GRAPHS IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SHOW FISCAL YEAR 24 BUT YOU DON'T SHOW AMENDED VERSUS YEAR 25, THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, FOR ME, IT'S A HUGE CHANGE.
UM, I WANT TO SHOW THE MOST ACCURATE NUMBER BASED ON MY PROJECTIONS.
SO I WANT TO JUST LOOKING AT THAT GRAPH, UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE SOME NEW FOLKS IN THE ROOM.
UM, YOU KNOW, 2000, AND AS YOU LOOK AT THE CHANGE, THERE'S A BIG FLOW CHANGE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS AS A DEPARTMENT STARTED IN 2017.
UM, WE HAD PUBLIC WORKS FUNCTIONS PREVIOUSLY, PRIMARILY, UH, IN, IN THE WASTE, IN THE WASTE STREAM.
BUT WE HAD, AND WE HAD AIRPORT, WHICH WAS, WAS SEPARATE.
BUT, UM, IN 2017, THAT'S WHEN WE BEGAN, WE ONLY HAD ONE MANAGED DISTRICT, AND THAT WAS NANDO FARMS. AND WE HAD A, UH, A MANAGER, AND THEN IT TRANSFERRED OVER TO, UH, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR.
BUT WE, 17, WE BROUGHT ON TWO NEW DISTRICTS.
THEN WE BROUGHT ONE ON 18, AND WE BROUGHT ONE ON 19, AND WE BROUGHT ONE IN 20 IN
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2021.UM, WE GOT RID OF THE BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT AND, UM, THE DIRECTOR POSITION.
UM, AND SO I TOOK ON THE MAJORITY OF THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES.
2020, I GOT INTO THE AIRPORT AS WELL.
UM, AND MOST RECENTLY, AND I, AND I THINK IT'S HELPED THEM, UM, AS I WAS LISTENING TO THE PARKS AND REC, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE COMPRESSED AGAIN AND, AND TAKEN ON THE PARKS AND RECREATION MAINTENANCE DUTIES AS WELL.
SO THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF CHANGES.
AND, AND YOU'LL ALSO SEE, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW I I WHAT YOUR SHEET SHOWS, BUT IF YOU LOOK IN THERE, THERE ARE BUDGETS THAT ARE NO LONGER, THEY MIGHT'VE HAD SOME DATA TWO YEARS AGO, BUT THEY DON'T TODAY BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN COMPRESSION OF LIKE 42, 30, 35, AND 40, ALL WASTE BUDGETS.
THEY WERE PUT INTO ONE BUDGET.
UM, THE FORMER PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET, WHICH WAS PRETTY LARGE, A LOT OF PEOPLE, THE MAJORITY OF THAT BUDGET AND THE FOLKS HAVE BEEN PUT INTO THE 43,000 BUDGET.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, SOME OF THE, THE CHANGE IN THE GROWTH HAS BEEN BECAUSE OF THE MOVEMENT OF DEPARTMENTS AND PEOPLE, UM, TO THE PUBLIC WORK SIDE.
IN SAYING THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND SHEET I GAVE YOU, UM, WHAT I DID WAS, IN THIS REQUEST, THE DOLLARS I, I PUT THE PERCENT THE DOLLARS.
AND, AND I, AND THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE PERSONNEL BECAUSE I, I WAS, I WAS NOT INTENDING TO TRY TO GET A LOT OF MONEY.
YOU CAN SEE THE SANITARY DISTRICT ACTUALLY TOOK A PRETTY BIG DIP.
UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT A 3.449% INCREASE.
AND I PUT A NOTE UP AT THE TOP THAT I, I PULLED OFF OF THE BOS TODAY.
OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS, THE ALL ITEM INDEX INCREASED 3.4% BEFORE SEASONAL ADJUSTMENT.
SO WITH THE THINGS IN THE, THAT WE DO, UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A BUSINESS SIDE AS WELL, UM, IN THE PUBLIC WORK SIDE WITH THE SANITARY DISTRICTS, WE DO CHARGE BACK ON THAT SIDE.
WE ALSO CHARGE COMMERCIALLY, UM, WITH OUR TRANSFER STATION.
SO ALL, ALL OUR MATERIALS, UM, WE, WE, WE, WE SEE THE INFLATIONARY RATES.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH REFUSE, UM, HISTORICALLY WE'VE HAD, UH, AGREEMENT, OUR CPI DASH U OR WELL CPI, UM, FOR WASTE NOW, BUT IT CAN BE ADJUSTED UP TO 5% ANNUALLY.
AND SO IT, AND WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE PROJECTING THEN, THEN I TRY TO LOOK AT THAT.
AND, AND ADDITIONALLY THE LANDFILL CONTRACT, WHICH WE'RE CURRENTLY IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH, UM, TYPICALLY HAS WENT UP A QUARTER PER TON PER YEAR.
SO TRY TO TRY TO CAPTURE THOSE THINGS.
AND, AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH FINANCE ON THE RFP FOR OUR WASTE SERVICES IN TOTAL.
UM, SO I, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT AT LEAST I AT LEAST ASSUME THAT CURRENT INFLATIONARY RATE.
UM, BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE PRIMARY, THAT'S THE PRIMARY THING THAT I'M CONCERNED WITH.
NOW, I MENTIONED THE CHART OF ACCOUNTS AND NAVIGATION.
I PROBABLY, THE BIGGEST CHANGES WITHIN THE BUDGET ARE, I'VE GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS, I THINK LAST YEAR ON WHY YOU OR WHY YOU HAVE $0 BUDGETED AND YOU HAVE SPENT MONEY AND, AND I'M STILL FEELING MY WAY THROUGH HOW MANY PAGES IS THAT CHART OF ACCOUNTS.
BUT LIKE, WE ASKED THE QUESTION A BIT AGO ON THE FUEL, AND WE ASKED THE QUESTION ON THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
SO WE USED TO HAVE A SINGLE PAGE AND NOW WE HAVE MULTIPLE PAGES AND WE'VE PUT THESE BUDGETS TOGETHER AND WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THEM WHERE FINANCE WANTS THEM.
SO WITH LIKE, WITH WASTE, I, I TRIED TO, THE WAY THAT THEY WERE FIRST KIND OF, THEY WERE PUSHED OUT TO WHERE THEY THOUGHT THEY MOST BELONGED.
ONE OF THE THINGS, FOR EXAMPLE WAS WE SEND OUR TIRES TO FREDERICK COUNTY AND, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY PART OF THE WASTE STREAM.
UM, AND WITH THAT, WE, WE GET RECYCLE CREDIT.
FOR ME, THAT'S PART OF THE RECYCLE PROCESS.
IT'S NOT A, A PAYMENT TO ANOTHER GOVERNMENT.
SO I REDUCE THAT LINE ITEM BECAUSE A PAYMENT TO ANOTHER GOVERNMENT TO ME IS WHEN I PAY DEQ FOR THE FEES THAT I NEED TO PAY THEM FOR USE OF THE TRANSFER STATION OR A GOVERNMENT ENTITY, LIKE THE REGIONAL COMMISSION FOR OUR SOLID WASTE PROGRAM FEES FOR THE YEAR.
SO I'VE TRIED MY BEST TO ACTUALLY SAY, ALRIGHT, WE'VE COMPRESSED THESE BUDGET, WE'VE CHANGED THE CHARTS.
I WANT SOLID WASTE TO BE WHAT'S GOING TO THE LANDFILL.
NOT, AND, AND WE'VE HAD SOME COMMUNICATION THERE TOO.
'CAUSE WE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE, SOLID WASTE SOMETIMES GETS MISCONSTRUED.
BUT WE WANT ALL THOSE THINGS, UH, IN COMPACTOR SERVICES.
WE WANNA BE ABLE TO STILL BE ABLE TO SEE THOSE ITEMS
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WHEN YOU ASK THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, HEY, HOW MUCH DOES THIS COST? SO, UM, THE MAJORITY OF THE BUDGET, BIG MOVEMENTS IS CLARIFICATION AND, AND CPI ADJUSTMENTS, MAINTENANCE OF BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS.UM, THAT IS PROBABLY THE TOUGHEST BUDGET.
UM, AND ONE OF THE REASONS IS YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GONNA BLOW UP.
AND NUMBER TWO, I JUST MENTIONED, OUR MOST RECENT ACQUISITION IS PARKS AND REC MAINTENANCE.
SO WE'VE DONE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE STILL HAVE A LOT TO DO.
I SAW SOME OF IT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF SMALL STUFF WHEN YOU GO TO THE SHELTERS AND WE'VE MADE REPAIRS AND WE'VE HAD ROOF JOBS, AND, UM, WE'VE DONE, UM, SOME, YOU KNOW, ASPHALT.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE, WE TRIED TO ASSUME, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UM, WITH OUR, AS WE'VE COMPRESSED OUR, OUR FOLKS, LIKE OUR PUBLIC WORKS FOLKS WILL DO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE, UM, SIDEWALKS OUT HERE AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
WE'VE DONE SIDEWALKS OUT IN FRONT OF THE GOVERNMENT CENTER.
UM, SO THOSE THINGS ARE, ARE TASKS THAT WE USED TO OUTSOURCE THAT WE TRY TO DO MORE AND MORE OF.
UM, AND I THINK THAT, UM, I THINK THAT OUR STAFF HAS REALLY DONE A GOOD JOB.
WE'RE CONTINUING TO LOOK AND, AND AS WE, YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS TO BECOME ONE TEAM, I THINK WE'VE BEEN HIDDEN IN THAT DIRECTION.
UM, BUT WE ARE, WE'RE STARTING TO GET A LITTLE BETTER FOUNDATION WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO KIND OF DIG IN NOW AS WE SEE WHAT WE HAVE.
EVEN WITH, I MEAN, 'CAUSE THIS BUDGET LIKE 43,000 BUDGET, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE ELECTRIC.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST SAW, UM, A POOL REPAIR.
I MEAN, THAT'S IMPORTANT WHEN YOU HAVE, WHEN YOU'RE LOSING WATER IN A POOL THAT'S BIG MONEY ON THIS OTHER SIDE, ON, ON YOUR TOWN WATER BILL, AND, AND, AND THEY CHARGE YOU.
WHATEVER YOU TAKE IN, THEY CHARGE WHAT'S GOING BACK OUT.
SO THOSE THINGS ARE REAL IMPORTANT.
UM, I THINK I, I MEAN, I'VE HIT MOST OF THE IMPORTANT POINTS.
UM, I THINK IT MIGHT BE HIT SO MUCH THERE.
IT MIGHT BE JUST BEST FOR YOU TO JUST HIT ME HARD WITH WHATEVER YOU GOT.
MY MY FIRST QUESTION,
I'M NOT INCREASING STAFF, BUT I'M GLAD TO, IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO
I'M, I'M TRYING TO, TO MA'AM MAKE THIS FLOW, MA.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
NO, I'M NOT PIECE OF MY STAFF.
I, I, I HAVE ONE POSITION THAT'S NOT FILLED.
I DID ASK TO KEEP THAT POSITION.
UM, AND I THINK RIGHT NOW, I, I ASKED MS. MEADOWS THIS WEEK TO SEND ME A LIST.
I THINK WE'RE AT, I THINK IT WAS 68 STAFF.
AM I RIGHT? I THINK RIGHT AROUND, BUT YOU KNOW, WITH A LOT OF PART-TIME REFUSE, UM, YEAH.
YOU KNOW, THAT CAN FLUCTUATE A LITTLE BIT.
YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY SAYS, HEY, MIKE, I DON'T, OR JAMIE OR WHOEVER, MICHAEL, I WANNA WORK ONE DAY NOW.
SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY PICK UP MORE PEOPLE IN THAT MANNER, BUT WE WOULDN'T EXCHANGE OUR HOURS.
SO, UM, IF I COMPARE YOUR BUDGET FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR, UM, IT'S AN INCREASING, UM, ABOUT 300, 400 K.
AND, AND, AND THAT'S DUE TO WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S SO, AND THE THINGS THAT I JUST MENTIONED, EVERYTHING YOU JUST MENTIONED.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SHEET I GAVE YOU, UM, THE 2 65 IS WHAT MY REQUEST VERSUS THE AMENDED IS.
AND AGAIN, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY UP TO 5%, UM, CPI ADJUSTED ANNUALLY ON, AND, AND THE BIGGEST BILLS WE HAVE ARE FOR OUR WASTE.
THIS CONCLUDES ALL OF THE WASTE IN THE COUNTY.
NOW, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, YOU ALSO HAVE REVENUE, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE TRADITIONALLY 50 TO 55% RESIDENTIAL WASTE.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
UM, YOU KNOW, UM, TALKING ABOUT REVENUE, I MEAN, I'VE, I'VE THOUGHT OF POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, UM, MAYBE MAKING AN ADJUSTMENT TO OUR COMMERCIAL SIDE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, AND WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A LONG CONVERSATION, BUT IF I WOULD GO UP $2 A TON, I COULD POTENTIALLY BRING IN ANOTHER 30 GRAND OF REVENUE, YOU KNOW? AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT ALL OUR SMALL FEES, WHICH WOULDN'T, I COULDN'T GIVE YOU A NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
SO, UH, YOU, YOU TOUCHED A LITTLE BIT ON THIS MM-HMM.
UM, I SEE THAT LAST, UH, THIS CURRENT YEAR UNDER REFUSE COLLECTION.
AND TRANSPORTATION, UH, TRANSFER STATION.
YOU DO HAVE ACTUAL COSTS OF A HUNDRED K IN THERE WHERE YOU DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T PLAN TO HAVE ANY BUDGET.
AND, AND, AND SO, AND I SEE THAT FOR NEXT YEAR, THERE ISN'T ANY PLANNED BUDGET FOR THOSE, THOSE TWO LINE ITEMS. SO IS THAT YES, MA'AM.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO DO SOME TRANSFERS THAT OKAY.
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BUT, UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE, AND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON INTERNALLY.WE, WE HAVE SUCH A WIDE PROGRAM THAT WE DO HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT COBIS, AND WE'RE TRYING TO KIND OF BRING THAT IN AND UTILIZE SHELLY MORE.
UM, BUT THERE, WE DO SO MANY, LIKE WITH REVENUE SHARING, I MEAN, LIKE, I MEAN, WE, WE HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC AND, AND, YOU KNOW, SO WITH ALL THE BILLS, YOU KNOW, OCCASIONALLY, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY HAS, I COULD BE THE ONE, YOU KNOW, THAT, HEY, I'VE BEEN CODING IT THAT WAY SINCE 2011 AND IT'S JUST NATURAL AND I MESSED UP.
UM, BUT, BUT THAT, I THINK THAT'S JUST SIMPLY A MISTAKE.
UM, WE HAD A CODIFICATION ISSUE WITH, UM, 71 0 3 OH.
UM, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE PARKS AND RIGHT.
AND THAT WAS, HEY, YOU KNOW, IT, IT CHANGED.
IT WAS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT WAS A WEEK OR TWO IN, AND, YOU KNOW, I HAD SENT OUT THE MEMO, BUT SOME, SOMEBODY DIDN'T READ A MEMO, YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN, SOMETIMES THAT COMPRESSION OF BUDGETS, THAT'S ALL THAT IS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT FORGETTING ANYTHING.
AND THEN THE, OH, NO, I'M SORRY.
SO, UM, LAST YEAR WE HAD A LOT OF MAINTENANCE REPAIRS.
AND, AND I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CAPITAL BUDGET ANY AT THIS TIME.
SO THAT'S, THEY'LL BE IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
WELL, I MEAN, A, A MAJOR REPLACEMENT IN THE SCHEDULE.
UM, AND, AND LISTEN, I STARTED ON A REVIEW OF SOME OF THE ROOF SYSTEMS A FEW YEARS AGO.
UM, I'VE, YOU KNOW, SHARED THAT WITH JANE.
UM, ACTUALLY THE FIRST ONE RECOMMENDED IS HERE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU GET TO THAT LEVEL OF REPLACEMENT, I DON'T REALLY LOOK AT THAT AS MAINTENANCE.
I THINK THAT'S GONNA NEED TO BE ON THE CAPITAL SIDE.
AS LONG AS YOUR ACCOUNTING FOR, RIGHT.
AND THE, AND, AND I DON'T HAVE THE KARIO PACKAGE, BUT DO WE HAVE SOME BUILDING FUNDING STILL AVAILABLE? YES.
'CAUSE WE, ONE OF THE THINGS A COUPLE YEARS AGO AS WE MIGRATED AND CHANGED AND GOT RID OF OLD ACCOUNTS AND BROUGHT EVERYTHING TO THE FOREFRONT, I REQUEST IT WAS, HEY, IT WOULD REALLY BE NICE IF WE COULD KEEP A RESERVE FOR THINGS THAT BLOW UP IN BUILDINGS.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? I, I, I'M JUST NOT THAT GOOD.
I MEAN, OTHER THAN SAYING NO, AND YOU GUYS WANNA BE POPSICLES OF THE THING, THE HEAT GOES OUT IN HERE RIGHT NOW.
SO WE STILL HAVE SOME RESERVE FUNDING GOOD FOR, UH, A PROBLEM.
AND THEN, UM, I THINK THOSE WERE, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE NUMBER IN FRONT OF YOU.
UM, SO WHAT, WHAT WAS OUR REVENUE INTAKES ON 20, WHAT, 22 OR 23? DO WE HAVE THAT HERE? 23 4, WHICH JUST THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT IN GENERAL.
YEAH, JUST, YEAH, JUST THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT.
CAN YOU PULL UP THAT ALYSSA RIGHT THERE? YEAH.
I'M A LITTLE BIT, IT'S KINDA INTERESTING ON THIS BECAUSE UNDER EXPENDITURES, WE'VE GOT A PUBLIC WORKS AND WE CAN KEEP TAPPING IN AND DRILLING DOWN INTO VARIOUS THINGS.
BUT IF YOU GO OVER TO REVENUE, THERE'S NO PUBLIC WORKS.
IT TAKES ME A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO KIND OF NAVIGATE, BECAUSE WE HAVE EVERYTHING.
JUST LIKE CLEAR GOV, WE SUBTOTAL IT UP YEAH.
JUST BEAR WITH ME AS I KIND OF NAVIGATE TO THAT WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT.
UM, I MEAN, YOU'RE TRADITIONALLY, I HAVE A THIS AND YOU'RE GETTING JUST USED TO THIS, THIS SYSTEM AS WELL, I GUESS, TOO.
UM, I AM, AND I, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT OF DATA AND I LIKE THIS SO FAR.
UM, SO I'M LOOKING AT REPAIR SERVICES AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THIS? IT'S, IT'S, UH, ENCOMPASSES QUITE A LOT.
BUT BUILDING MAINTENANCE AND BUILDING REPAIRS AND, AND LOOKING BACK, MM-HMM.
AND THEN THERE'S THIS LEVEL, OH, IT WAS TOO MUCH.
SO THIS YEAR IT'S ACTUALLY BUDGETED AT THE LEVEL THAT IT EXCEEDED TO LAST TIME.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE, IS THERE, DO YOU HAVE A BACKLOG THAT YOU KNOW YOU NEED THAT FOR? OR ARE YOU JUST SAYING WE MIGHT BE OVER AGAIN? YOU KNOW, THAT'S RIGHT.
BUT THE, THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS, I MENTIONED THE PARKS AND RECREATION.
SO WE TOOK ON ALL OF THAT OKAY.
SO LIKE, WE'RE WORKING AT BEN CROSBY STADIUM, WE'RE WORKING ON BALL FIELDS, WE'RE LEARNING SOME NEW, OKAY.
SO THE TIME TIMING OF THAT TRANSITION WAS THE 2324 TIMEFRAME.
SO THAT, THAT MEANS THAT THIS RED PORTION IT WAS OVER
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IS BECAUSE YOU JUST HAD ALL THIS NEW STUFF AND WE HAD, OKAY.'CAUSE WE'RE IN UKG SOFTWARE TOO.
AND THEN WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE, AND PEOPLE HERE AND MIKE DON'T DO THE TALKING BETWEEN THOSE SYSTEMS. BUT LIKE A, HEY, I CAN SEE WE GOT A ISSUE.
YOU KNOW, SO IT WAS LIKE A SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, BUT THIS BUDGET LOOKED REALLY GOOD.
MEANING THAT WE KNOW WHY IT WAS OVER BUDGET, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU BROUGHT IN A BUNCH OF NEW RESPONSIBILITY.
AND NOW YOU'RE BUDGETING AT THE LEVEL TO MEET THAT NEW RESPONSIBILITY.
AND PEOPLE IN THAT, IN THAT SITUATION, THE PEOPLE WERE HUGE.
I DON'T WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE TOTAL NUMBER OFF YOUR HEAD ACTUALLY.
BECAUSE, UH, UNDER THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER AREA WHERE IT JUMPED QUITE A BIT.
UH, AND IT'S THE SAME PICTURE, 23, RIGHT? RIGHT.
A HUNDRED PERCENT OVER BUDGET.
UH, 24, YOU ACTUALLY, BUT YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY YEAH.
YOU ENDED UP BUDGETING FOR IT.
THAT'S WHERE LIKE, I'VE BEEN AGGRAVATING MEGAN.
I SAID, I'M GONNA LOOK LIKE I'M DUMB WHEN I GO IN HERE BECAUSE I'M PLAYING WITH THESE, AND I, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW WHERE, I KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT.
BUT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, IT WAS MID-YEAR ACTUALLY.
THEY DID A MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENT ON, AND IT WAS A GOOD THING.
I MEAN, HEY, WE'RE GONNA PUT THINGS THAT FIT TOGETHER, TOGETHER.
UM, AND THESE MEN, AND I MENTIONED BECOMING ONE TEAM, WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER, BUT IT CREATES, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN HERE, IT CREATES A VISUAL THAT LOOKS REALLY COOL.
THIS IS A CLEAR PICTURE AND, AND THIS IS GOOD.
UH, OKAY, WELL THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY, I'M STILL LOOKING FOR THE PLACES WHERE THE, THE RATES ARE JUMPING SUBSTANTIALLY.
AND SO THE ANSWER SO FAR IS EXPLAINABLE THAT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY JUST TOOK ON THE WORK OF ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.
I, I TRUTH, UH, I'VE, I'VE TRIED TO REMAIN AS CONSERVATIVE AS FLAT AS POSSIBLE AGAIN, BUT WE DO HAVE COMMERCIAL OPERATION AND, AND OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, YOU'RE, YOUR COMMERCIAL REVENUE FOR WASTE IS GONNA BE YOUR BIG REVENUE AND YOU'RE GONNA BE ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS.
I'VE PULLED THAT UP ON THIS SCREEN.
SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING, I MEAN, AND, AND THAT CAN ADJUST TOO, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU GOT GOING ON ON AND HOW MANY PROJECTS ARE IN THE COUNTY.
SO WHICH LINE ITEM, JUST, THIS IS REVENUE.
IT'S WHERE THAT'S PRETTY FLAT GO UP.
DALEY HAS AN IDEA THERE, BUT WE'LL WASTE MAKE THAT, TAKE THAT UP.
UM, WELL, I, I KIND OF, I'M KIND OF KIDDING.
BUT GENERALLY, I MEAN, I'VE HEARD SOME DISCUSSIONS ALREADY ABOUT THAT.
WELL, REALLY, REALLY, I SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT, AT EV EVALUATE.
I, I MEAN, IN THE AREA, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A LANDFILL.
SO NO MATTER WHAT, IT'S GONNA COST US MORE MONEY, UM, FOR, FOR MOVING IT.
'CAUSE WE CAN'T JUST DUMP IT IN THE HOLE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE MAY HAVE TO, I MEAN, WHEN THESE CONTRACTS CHANGE, I'M IN A RFP, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NEGOTIATING ON CONTRACTS.
WE MAY HAVE TO CONSIDER RAISING OUR FEE, UM, JUST FOR THAT COMMERCIAL SIDE.
'CAUSE WE CAN'T SUPPLEMENT THEM, YOU KNOW, SO.
WELL, THANKS FOR PULLING THAT UP.
UM, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I SEE.
I JUST HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
MM-HMM,
YOU'VE GOT LAUNDRY SERVICE 20,000, THEN YOU'VE GOT LAUNDRY AND JANITORIAL FOR 34 5.
ARE THEY FOR TWO SEPARATE? WHY IS THEY, WHY ARE THEY SEPARATE INSTEAD OF A COMBINED? WELL, THE QUESTION, UM, UH, I MEAN, AND I HAVE TO PULL UP THAT CHART OF ACCOUNTS, BUT YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, RUGS AND CINTAS AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
AND THEN YOU HAVE OUR LADIES THAT, OR GENTLEMEN THAT, UM, TAKE CARE OF FACILITIES AND THE STATIONS AND THOSE PRODUCTS.
AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF HOW SHE SEGREGATES THE TWO CODES, UM, BASED ON THE, THE, THE USAGE.
UM, AND, AND I CAN GET DEEPER.
UM, ONE IS A SERVICE AND ONE IS A SUPPLY.
THAT'S THE DISTINCT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
SO LIKE OUR PEOPLE WOULD PURCHASE, YOU KNOW, DONNA WOULD ORDER SUPPLIES.
YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE, IF WE HAVE A SERVICE, THEN OF COURSE THAT WOULD BE A COMPANY THAT, SO, YOU KNOW, AND, AND AGAIN, UM, THAT'S SOMEWHERE THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SWITCHING AND MIGRATING WE'RE, I'M STILL NAVIGATING.
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DONNA INTO, UM, UM, HELPING ME WITH SOME OF SOME OF HER, HER PROCESS.AND, AND THIS ALSO, THIS, THIS ENCOMPASSES ANYTHING TO DO WITH PARKS AND RECREATION, UM, IN THE MAINTENANCE SIDE TOO.
SO ANY OF THEIR MATERIALS THAT WOULD GO INTO THOSE CATEGORIES OR, UM, YOU KNOW, THEIR FACILITIES, UM, CLEANING THEIR FACILITIES OR THE MATERIALS.
I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE, THE LAUNDRY SIDE.
I THOUGHT, WELL, WHY, WHY DO WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE, UM, INSTEAD OF ONE? AND I FIGURED THERE MUST BE AN EX EXPLANATION.
AND, AND THOSE WERE, THAT'S LIKE WHERE I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CLASSIFICATIONS ARE REALLY, I, YOU KNOW, I I, I DON'T CARE FOR LIKE, YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED PAYING FOR TIRES.
I DON'T, YOU KNOW, AS A SERVICE TO GOVERNMENT, I REALLY THINK THAT SHOULD BE PART OF A WASTE SERVICE, PART OF THE RECYCLE PROCESS.
SO INTERNALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS LIKE WE JUST HAD ONE IN THE LAST WEEK ON JOHNNY BLUES, WHICH THERE IS A NOTE IN THERE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, SEGREGATING, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE FIRST DESCRIPTION WE GOT WAS COUNTED AS A RENTAL.
BUT WE HAVE PLACES WHERE THAT IS, THERE ARE ACTUAL UTILITY ALL DAY, EVERY DAY, ALL THROUGH THE YEAR.
AND FOR ME, THAT REALLY SHOULD BE PART OF THE WATER AND SEWER PROCESS FOR THAT FACILITY.
NOT LIKE RENTING A BUILDING FOR SOMETHING.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, RECREATIONAL SUPPLIES AND LANDSCAPING.
I MEAN, I KNOW YOU GUYS DO THE MULCHING OF THE PLAYGROUNDS.
SO WHEN I LOOKED AT AND SAW RECREATIONAL, I THOUGHT MAYBE THAT'S, BUT THEN WHEN I GOT DOWN AND GOT LANDSCAPING, I THOUGHT, WELL, WOULD THAT GROUP TOGETHER? SO JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE RECREATIONAL, WELL, I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE CODED TO THAT ONE OR NOT.
WE'VE TRIED THE CONDENSE A LOT OF THOSE CODES.
'CAUSE I'VE ACTUALLY GOT HIT ON THAT LANDSCAPING CODE BY A PERSON FROM A CERTAIN SANITARY DISTRICT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS, BECAUSE LANDSCAPING ENCOMPASSED ROAD MAINTENANCE TOO.
SO I, I MEAN, I'M JUST GONNA BE BRUTALLY HONEST.
THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE, AS WE HIT A, YOU KNOW, HIT IT HEAD ON AND I SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THESE TWO THINGS? YOU KNOW, I TOLD HIM, YOU COME IN CASE THERE'S A SPECIFIC QUESTION ONE, 'CAUSE WE HAVE EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE, AND THEN WE, WE HAVE EQUIPMENT REPAIR.
AND, AND MIKE DOESN'T CODE EVERY BILL AND EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR.
BUT IN MY MIND, UM, THE EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE IS DONE.
SO IF WE BRING IN JAMES RIVER ON THE JOHN DEERE, THAT BIG LOADER, BUT IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SUPPLIES THAT ARE PURCHASED AND OUR MEN ARE PROBABLY DOING SOMETHING THEMSELVES.
AND, BUT I MEAN, IF, YOU KNOW, IF I NEED TO GET IN DEEPER, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S THOSE QUESTIONS WHERE WHEN YOU HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE AND MULTIPLE CATEGORIES, SOMETIMES IT DOES GET CONFUSING.
AND, AND I THINK THAT HONESTLY IT IS PROBABLY GONNA TAKE ME ANOTHER YEAR BEFORE I HAVE IT ALL STRAIGHT.
BUT I THINK WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN AND I THINK WE'VE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS.
UM, THEN MY OTHER QUESTION, I LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WATER SEWER, RIGHT? ELECTRIC, AND THEN IT'S GOT FUEL, BUT MM-HMM.
NOW, IS THAT FUEL FOR THE VEHICLES OR FUEL? NO OIL.
THAT'S GONNA BE, AND PROPANE HEAT, THE 43,000 BUDGET, THAT'S GONNA BE FUEL FOR, UM, THE BUILDINGS.
BECAUSE LIKE LP, 'CAUSE IT'S GOT FUEL.
LET ME MAKE SURE I'VE GOT THIS THING.
'CAUSE I THOUGHT, WOW, 54, IT, UM, 54 0 8 IS MOTORIZED FUEL FOR FOR EQUIPMENT.
WELL, THIS ONE'S, I CAN'T TELL WHERE ALL THE NUMBERS ARE THERE.
YOU'RE IN, CAN YOU LET SEE, IT SAYS FUEL UNDER ELECTRIC 65,000 AND I THOUGHT, RIGHT.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE YOUR, THAT'S GONNA BE LIKE ALL YOUR PROPANE TANKS IN THE COUNTY FOR ALL THE BUILDINGS, RIGHT? YEAH.
BUT WHEN I THINK OF JUST THIS BUILDING, HOW BIG IT IS, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC IS THAT ENCOMPASSES PUBLIC SAFETY AND OUT AT HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, THOSE BEING BIG BUILDINGS.
I'M JUST SURPRISED THAT THERE'S NOT MORE THAN THAT.
WELL, I MEAN, I MEAN, AND AGAIN, I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M BASING MY ESTIMATES OFF OF THE BILLS WE HAVE AND WHAT WE KNOW.
SO NO, I'M NOT CRITICIZING, I'M JUST SURPRISED.
IF THE INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, I MEAN CHANGES AND, AND, AND, AND IT COULD, I MEAN, IF SOMETHING WOULD HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD, YOU COULD BE LOOKING AT SOMETHING AND SAY, MIKE, YOU CODED THIS TO THE WRONG PLACE.
AND YEAH, HE, HE USED THE TEMPERATURE DAD AT 62.
I DON'T BLAME FOR THAT EITHER, BUT, YEAH.
UM, BUT I EVEN THOUGHT OF THAT'S FUEL FOR THE VEHICLES, KNOWING HOW MANY VEHICLES AND THAT THEY RUN.
YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH THAT THAT'S, UM, THAT, THAT WAS REALIZED.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER PLACE WHERE
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YOU WOULD'VE PROBABLY SAW A MAJOR SPIKE BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN EQUIPMENT AND THE CHANGE IN VEHICLES WITH THE MERGER OF THE DEPARTMENTS.BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGE IN, AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE, ARE SO FRESH COUPLED WITH ALL THE CHANGE WITH THIS CHART OF ACCOUNTS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE GONNA HAVE SOME TRANSFERS 'CAUSE UM, I MEAN, IT'S JUST GONNA HAPPEN AS WE NAVIGATE IT.
MR. STANMORE OR MR. BUTLER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, THIS ISN'T A QUESTION, UH, AS MUCH AS AN OBSERVATION, UM, BUT, UM, AND IT, AND IT MIGHT BE MORE EVEN FOR ALYSSA THAN IT IS FOR MIKE.
BUT, UH, UP TOWARD THE TOP OF THE PUBLIC WORKS, UM, IN THE SANITARY DISTRICT SUBSECTION, UM, I WAS JUST DIGGING AROUND IN THERE AND, UH, NOTED THAT WE HAVE SOME CATEGORIES BY, BY FUNCTION, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CATEGORIES BY THE ACTUAL SANITARY DISTRICTS THAT, THAT WE MANAGE.
UH, SO IT LOOKS, UH, UH, I'M, I'M GUESSING IN THE UNDERLYING DATA THAT'S MORE GRANULAR, THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, YOU KNOW, DIVISIONS THAT WOULD BE BY, UH, DISTRICT.
BUT, UM, IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE FOR THE NEXT CYCLE, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT BY, BY THE DISTRICT FOR THE DISTRICTS THAT WE MANAGE, UM, HERE.
UM, AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THOSE, THAT'S PART OF OUR, PARDON? CAN YOU REPEAT? OH, I DIDN'T WANNA INTERRUPT YOU, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE EACH ONE OF THOSE INDEPENDENTLY, UM, THIS BUDGET? MM-HMM.
THIS IS BASICALLY THE, THE SAN THE GUYS THAT WORK IN THE SANITARY DISTRICTS.
BUT THIS IS, UM, INTERNAL PROJECTS, THE ACTUAL, SO I'LL USE LAKEFRONT RULE FOR EXAMPLE.
WE'LL HAVE A BUDGET SPECIFICALLY FOR THEM.
THEY'LL HAVE A LINE ITEM THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE, UM, FOR OUR, OUR, OUR COUNTY WORKERS WHERE WE WILL BILL THEM AND THEY WILL REIMBURSE US.
SO WE WILL HAVE REVENUE COMING BACK.
SO THIS DOESN'T ACTUALLY GO GO SPECIFICALLY.
WE MIGHT HAVE TO BUY SUPPLIES OR SOMETHING FOR, I MENTIONED EARLIER, DOING CONCRETE JOBS, UM, OR, UH, POTENTIALLY, UH, ASPHALT.
WE DID SOME, UH, PAVEMENT STRIPING RECENTLY BOUGHT SOME PAINT.
SO THAT, THAT IS, THIS IS ENCOMPASSES ALL THE COUNTY.
AND THOSE MEN, UM, IN HERE ACTUALLY WORK IN THOSE DISTRICTS OTHER THAN SHENANDOAH FARMS, BUT THEIR TIME OUTSIDE, UM, IN, IN OTHER AREAS, EVEN IF IT WAS AIRPORT IS BILLED AND WE GET, WE GET PAID BACK FOR THAT TIME.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AND THEN ALSO TO ADD TO THAT TOO, EACH SANITARY DISTRICT HAS THEIR OWN FUND.
SO YOU'LL FIND THAT FUND, JUST LIKE YOU FOUND THE AIRPORT FUND, IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE GENERAL FUND.
I SAW THAT FOR SOME OF THEM, BUT I DIDN'T ACTUALLY SEE ALL OF THEM IN THERE.
AND, AND MAYBE I JUST NEED, UM, UM, MORE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS TOOL.
BUT FOR EXAMPLE, I DIDN'T SEE, UM, THE SHENANDOAH FARMS, UH, AS A SEPARATE, UH, CATEGORY.
I, I, I THOUGHT I SAW IT, UH, A WHILE BACK, BUT THEN MORE RECENTLY WHEN I LOOKED IT, IT, I COULDN'T FIND IT.
WE ALL HAVE ACCESS TO THE TOOL.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT ONE? NO, NO.
UM, MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION IS, UM, THE, UM, SOLID WASTE, ARE THEY STILL STRUGGLING WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, STAFFING? UM, WELL, YOU KNOW, I, I, I DON'T, KNOCK ON WOOD, I THINK THEY'RE, I, I, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA ANYTHING, DON'T HE SMILING, BUT
UM, WE HAVE MEN THAT ARE ACTUALLY STICKING THERE AND, AND THEY'VE BEEN COMING TO WORK, I, AS FAR AS I KNOW THIS WEEK AND LAST WEEK, AND, UM, SEEM TO BE GETTING ALONG.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF UNUSUAL.
USED YEARS AGO, YOU, YOU HAD PEOPLE KNOCKING ON THE DOOR TO GET A JOB LIKE THAT.
AND, AND ANYMORE IT HAS BEEN TOUGH.
BUT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE CLICKING.
UM, BUT IN SAYING THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT WE DO NEED TO, I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT WHAT OUR PEOPLE DO, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SURROUNDING COUNTIES THAT, UM, DO PAY, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE BOOTS ON THE GROUND MORE THAN WE DO.
AND, UM, WE HAVE SOME GOOD STAFF AND, UM, WE SHOULD DO OUR BEST TO RETAIN THEM.
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OKAY.THANK, THANK YOU FOR THE MASTERCLASS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECTION AT THIS POINT, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, UM, JUST REMAIN LEVEL, UM, IN THE FARMS, NOT CHANGE ANYTHING.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ON OUR, OUR PROJECTS.
UM, AS Y'ALL KNOW, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE MIDST OF, UH, UH, REVENUE SHARING PROJECT, A MILLION $600,000 PROJECT.
AND, UM, WE HAVE SEVERAL MORE PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY APPROVED, BUT WE HAVE THAT MONEY, UM, DEDICATED, UM, FOR THOSE PROJECTS.
SO THAT'S EXCLUSIVE OF, UM, THEIR ROUTINE OPERATIONAL BUDGET.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS THE ONE BUDGET MR. MEYER WAS ASKING ABOUT THE FOLKS AND THE PEOPLE.
THIS, THIS ACTUALLY HAS FOUR STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE DEDICATED TO SHENANDOAH FARMS AND THAT WORK FOR THE COUNTY.
AND, AND THEY ARE IN THIS BUDGET.
UM, THEIR BENEFITS, THEIR SALARIES ARE IN THIS BUDGET.
UM, AND THEN WE, ADDITIONALLY, WE WILL CHARGE THEM IF FOR, UH, EXTRA TIME.
UM, FOR INSTANCE, THE REVENUE SHARING.
UM, YOU KNOW, UH, MR. KAEL ON THE PROJECT, WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE FOR HIS TIME, UM, UM, IN, IN THAT PROJECT.
I, I HAVE RECENTLY VIEWED, BUT HOW DO YOU EXPAND? OH, IT'S TOO LITTLE.
BUT THE WHOLE LIST, LET'S SEE.
I'M HAPPY AS A CLAM WITH THE PAPER.
NO, I DON'T WANNA TAKE, FINISH WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT SOME OF THOSE.
FINISH, YOU KNOW, DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME ON ME.
AND THIS IS, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE, UM, THAT I'VE, YOU KNOW, THE CEMETERY DISTRICTS, I'VE TRIED TO WORK WITH MICHAEL TO TRY TO CLEAN UP SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT ACTUALLY YOU, THESE USED TO BE MORE DIFFICULT ON CLEAR GOV.
I THINK THEY'RE EASIER THAN THE GENERAL FUND NOW 'CAUSE IT'S ALL KIND OF TOGETHER.
AND THEN I'M, I'M TRYING TO HIDE STUFF AND MOVE STUFF AND FIND STUFF.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN, AND I, AND I HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, ON THE, I MEAN, WE HAVE SEVERAL MANAGED DISTRICTS, BUT WE HAVE NO RATE CHANGE FOR SHENANDOAH FARMS. UM, AS, AS THEY'RE SPEAKING, I CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND, AND GENERALLY SAY THAT, UM, OF THE MANAGED GROUPS, WE ONLY HAD ONE, UM, THAT PROPOSED TO INCREASE THIS THIS YEAR.
AND THAT WAS WILDCAT DRIVE, WHICH WON'T TAKE LONG.
AND, UM, THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS UNDER $5,000, WHICH WON'T DO A WHOLE LOT.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SHE, NANDO FARMS IS THE BIG ONE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT, AGAIN, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PERSONNEL.
UM, AND, AND THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE BUDGET.
UM, THE FORMER ADVISORY GROUPS, UM, DESIRED TO HAVE THEIR PEOPLE DEDICATED THERE.
UM, THERE WAS A TIME WE ONLY HAD ONE, AND THEN WE HAD TWO, AND THEN WE HAD QUASI PUBLIC WORKS, QUASI FARMS, AND, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF WENT WITH WHAT THEY DESIRED.
AND, UM, IT WORKS GOOD TO HAVE FOUR MEN THERE.
UM, WE HAVE, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR, UM, OPERATIONS MANAGER WHO, UM, KIND OF FILLS THE GAP ON THE PUBLIC WORK SIDE.
AND IF HE'S WORKING OUT THERE, THEN WE WILL, YOU KNOW, BILL.
BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT, NOT A LOT.
UM, THE TEAM IS REALLY FUNCTIONING WELL.
UM, THE THING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS YOU, IF YOU LOOK IN THERE, UM, THE ONE THING WE TRY TO DO DO IS, IS KEEP, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING REASONABLE.
UM, WE, WE RECENTLY DID WITHIN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, THREE MILES OF INTERNAL ROADS.
UM, SO THAT'LL MAKE A MAJOR IMPACT TO THE, THE STONE BUDGET AND THE MAINTENANCE BUDGET.
UM, MOVING FORWARD, UM, DEPENDING ON WHERE WE MOVE FORWARD, I WOULD HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO A LITTLE MORE.
WE DO HAVE, UM, WE HAVEN'T DONE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR A FEW YEARS AND, UM, ARE UPDATED.
AND I MEAN, THERE'S SOME IDEAS THAT WE HAVE.
I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE IF WE CONTINUE TO DO MAINTENANCE THERE, TO TRY TO MAKE INTERNAL IMPROVEMENTS, UM, ON, ON TOP OF THE, UM, REVENUE SHARING PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE.
UM, AND AS WE DO THAT, WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO SEE OUR,
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OUR STONE BUDGETS COME DOWN AND OUR MAINTENANCE BUDGET.BUT THEN WE NEED TO REPAIR AS WE, AS WE TURN THE, THE GRAVEL INTO, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, ASPHALT MATERIAL, UM, YOU DOING CHIP SEAL, WE NEED TO BE PREPARED TO TREAT THOSE AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND KEEP UP SO THAT WE DON'T LOSE THEM.
UM, AND THAT'S THE REASON THE ONE WE HAVE IS REQUESTING THE INCREASE.
UM, BUT YOU, YOU HAVE THE NUMBERS.
I DIDN'T GET ACCESS TO THIS ONE.
WELL, MY, MY GOAL HONESTLY IS TO TRY TO KEEP 'EM FLAT.
UM, AND UNLESS SOMEBODY WANTS SOMETHING, I COULD SEE THAT IT WENT DOWN NINE IN FISCAL YEAR 23.
IT WAS 1.1 MILLION AND NOW IT'S GONE DOWN TO 900.
AND, AND, AND PART OF THAT WAS WE APPROVED THAT INTERNAL PROJECT.
I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT WHERE WE DID, THAT'S WHAT DID THE THREE MILES A ROAD.
UM, AND, AND RATHER THAN MOVING IT, WE ACTUALLY, SOME OF THAT WAS WE WEREN'T COMPLETE IN OUR FINANCIAL PICTURE AND MOVING EVERYTHING AROUND.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DID IT IN BUDGET FUNDING.
AND THEN WE, WE HAVE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FUND BALANCE.
SO WE REALLY USED CURRENT BUDGET FUNDING.
UM, WE APPROVED THE PROJECT, USED CONTRACTS WE HAD, AND WE GOT IT DONE JUST, UM, THE OVER THE BUDGET.
BUT WE HAD THAT APPROVED THROUGH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
SO THE, UH, THE BUDGET, HAS THAT BEEN, HAS IT BEEN APPROVED BY ANYBODY OUT IN THE FARMS OR THIS IS JUST, UM, THIS IS, THIS IS JUST A PUBLIC WORKS.
THIS IS JUST A COUNTY STAY FLAT.
UM, AT THIS POINT, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, THE BOARD HASN'T DETERMINED WHETHER IT'S GOING TO APPOINT A NEW ADVISORY BOARD RIGHT.
SO WE'RE JUST GOING BASED ON PAST, PAST NEEDS.
NO, THAT, THAT TOTALLY MAKES SENSE.
SO THAT'S JUST TRY TO KEEP IT FLAT UNTIL I'M TOLD OTHERWISE.
AND WE'RE NOT AT, UH, AND I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS A, A NEW QUESTION.
LAST YEAR, THE, DURING THE TAX ASSESSMENT, THE SANITARY DISTRICTS CAME IN AND INCREASED THEIR, THEIR FEES.
DO THEY HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY THIS YEAR TO DO THAT? YES.
AND AS MR. BERRY MENTIONED, WILDCAT DRIVE HAS REQUESTED AN INCREASE.
IT'S A SMALL ONE, BUT THEY HAVE REQUESTED ONE.
AND THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.
ALSO, THE, UH, SHORES HAVE IN AS FOR AN INCREASE FOR THE WATER REBATE.
THE SHENANDOAH SHORE SAN ONTARIO DISTRICT, THEY'VE ALSO REQUESTED AN INCREASE TO THEIR RATE.
OH REALLY? 'CAUSE THEY WANT TO FOR WATER.
AND OUR AGREEMENT WITH THEM, WE'RE WORKING WITH JASON HAM ON THIS.
UM, THERE, OUR AGREEMENT WITH THEM IS THAT THEY CAN COME TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE NOW, ESSENTIALLY.
SO WE'RE WORKING ON A RESOLUTION LIKE WE DID A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF AGREEMENTS IN THE BACKGROUND.
WELL, AND I MEAN, AND I CAN GO THROUGH LAKEFRONT ROW, LINDEN HEIGHTS, OSPI AND SHANNON WOODS ALL HAD NO RATE CHANGE REQUEST FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
SO THEY'RE BASICALLY, UM, GONNA STAY FLAT IF THERE'S ANY ADJUSTMENT, IT'S GONNA BE BECAUSE OF THEIR COLLECTION RATE.
'CAUSE MOST OF THESE GROUPS, UM, SOME OF THEM ARE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
UM, THAT'S ONE THING THAT THEY LIKE WITH THE COUNTY, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT WE DON'T MANAGE.
UM, THEY HAVE BETTER COLLECTION RATES.
UM, MOST OF 'EM ARE PROBABLY 95 PLUS THAT WE DO MANAGE.
UM, SHENDO FARMS IS REALLY BIG.
IT'S PROBABLY USUALLY RUNNING ABOUT 85 TO 87% COLLECTION RATE, WHICH IS STILL PRETTY GOOD FOR THAT SIZE COMMUNITY.
UM, IF YOU WANT PULL UP WILDCAT DRIVE THE, SEE IF YOU GUYS WANT TO HIT ME WITH QUESTIONS ON THE OTHERS, THAT'S YOUR CALL.
I, I, I WAS LOOKING AT LAKEFRONT ROYAL.
AND I SEE THAT FOR FISCAL YEAR 23, THEIR ACTUALS WAS LIKE 20, 20 K BELOW THEIR BUDGET.
SO I'M ASSUMING THAT 20 K WENT INTO THEIR CONTINGENCY.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE CALLING IT NOW.
BUT, AND, AND THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THOSE YEAH.
UM, THEY ACTUALLY DO WANT TO KEEP, AND AND THAT'S ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND.
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GROUPS DON'T HAVE, UM, A BANK ACCOUNT.BUT, YOU KNOW, LAKEFRONT ROYAL DOES HAVE A FORMAL POA, UM, BECAUSE THEY OWN PROPERTY.
UM, BUT THE, UM, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, UNDERSPENT, UM, HASN'T BEEN COMMON FOR THEM IN RECENT YEARS.
'CAUSE WE HAVE DONE WHAT WE DID A COUPLE MILES A ROAD UP THERE.
WE RECENTLY DID THEIR PARKING LOT.
UM, THEY DID A MAILBOX SHELTER.
UM, AND, AND THEY, UM, WANT TO CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
THE COUNTY HOLDS THE CARRYOVER, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.
FROM THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET NOW.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S EARMARKED FOR THEM.
SO IN THE, UM, CIVIC PLUS THERE WAS AN ATTACHMENT HERE FOR, UM, SANITARY DISTRICT.
SO IF I'M LOOKING AT LAKEFRONT ROYAL, I'M ASSUMING THAT THE 160 K IS IN THE ROLLOVER ACCOUNT.
THAT'S THE MONEY THAT THEY HAVE PUT ASIDE IN THEIR SAVINGS ACCOUNT.
IS IS THAT TRUE? IS THAT WHAT THIS, I I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE SHEET IN FRONT OF ME.
I I WOULD HAVE TO RELY ON A LIST ON THAT ONE.
UM, WHICH ONE ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT? I'M SORRY.
IF YOU GO TO, UH, CI, UH, CIVIL CIVIC PLUS, AND IF YOU GO UNDERNEATH THE, UM, THE GO TO THE AGENDA AND UNDER MIKE'S PRESENTATION, THERE'S A DOCUMENT ATTACHED TO THE, UM, TO THE COVER SHEETS CALLED SANITARY DISTRICT BREAKDOWN.
SO I'M LOOKING AT THAT RIGHT NOW.
OH, IS IT, IS THAT MY, MY SPREADSHEET? I I, I'D HAVE TO LOOK.
IT'S, IT JUST WAS PART OF THE PACKAGE.
SO I'M LOOKING AT, SO, UM, AND ONE THING TO CONSIDER AS WELL IS THE, UM, THAT'S NOT MINE, UM, IS, YOU KNOW, UM, I MEAN THANKFULLY WE WERE, I THINK WE'RE COMPLETE ON ALL OUR AUDITS AND, BUT YOU KNOW, AS WE, WE HADN'T, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A LOT OF TRANSITION AND, AND IN COMPLETING THOSE, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE FUND BALANCES THAT WEREN'T EXACTLY KNOWN, AND WE HADN'T MADE THOSE TRANSFERS BECAUSE UNTIL THE AUDIT WAS COMPLETE AND ALL THE JOURNAL ENTRIES WERE DONE.
AND THAT'S A PROCESS THAT I THINK ALYSSA DESIRES TO KIND OF GET MORE HONED IN HERE IN THE FUTURE SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT MORE OF A STANDARD PROCESS.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, AT TIMES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PULLING, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE SEE.
WHAT DO YOU SEE? MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGE, A LOT OF CONVERSION.
AND, AND THE QUESTIONS YOU'RE ASKING, UM, YOU KNOW, I GO AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT IS THEIR FUND BALANCE? 'CAUSE WE WANNA DO A COUPLE MILES A ROAD.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IN THAT SITUATION WE WOULD SAY, OKAY, WE'D LIKE TO MOVE FUND BALANCE OVER TO A LINE OF ITEM, UM, FOR A PROJECT OR, OR EVEN IF IT, YOU KNOW, HAVE A MINI CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
ANY PROJECTS THAT THEY KNOW DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, FOR ME, JUST LOOKING IN AT, AT THIS, UM, I WOULD THINK, WELL, HEY, THEY'RE JUST SITTING ON THIS MONEY.
RIGHT? AND, AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA COME AND ASK TO RAISE FEES.
IF YOU'RE GONNA BE RAISING FEES, YOU KNOW, ON YOUR, ON THE RESIDENTS, BUT YET YOU'RE SITTING ON A HUNDRED, YOU KNOW, $160,000, WHY ARE YOU ASKING TO RAISE FEES? SO IF THESE SANITARY DISTRICTS HAVE PROJECTS THAT DOWN THE ROAD THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO WORK, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE INFORM SOMETHING TO SAY, WELL, DOWN THE ROAD WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, PUT A, A BOAT RAMP OR WHATNOT.
THEN JUST HAVING IT SIT THERE.
WELL, AND, AND, AND LAKEFRONT ROAD IS VERY PROGRESSIVE.
AGAIN, THERE WAS SOME COMMUNICATION GAP.
UM, WE, WE SPENT AT ONE POINT EVERYTHING WE HAD AND, AND, AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF BLACK STUFF LAID.
WELL, IF I LOOK AT THIS SHEET MM-HMM,
THIS SAYS THEIR TOTAL EXPENDITURES WAS A HUNDRED FIFTY NINE, THREE EIGHTY FOUR, WHICH MATCHES THE NUMBER ON THE SHEET MRS. COOK IS LOOKING AT.
SO I THINK THAT'S AN EXPENDITURE, NOT A, THAT'S THE EXPENDITURE THERE.
SO IF THAT'S THE EXPENDITURE, THEN CAN WE GET A LISTING OF THEIR SUR OF ALL THE SANITARY DISTRICT SURPLUSES.
THEN IT LOOKS LIKE ON THE BACK OF THIS SHEET, THE CARRYOVERS SHEET, THE CARRYOVERS THAT THEY PUT INTO, IT'S A TOTAL TRANSFERS TO OTHER FUNDS.
SO I'M THINKING IF THEY HAVE ANY CARRYOVER, IT WAS $8,319.
YOU GOT ME REALLY EXCITED FOR A SECOND.
THAT'S, UM, YEAH, THAT'S UNDER MISCELLANEOUS, UM, ON THE EXPENDITURES.
THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE THE TOTAL AMOUNT.
NO, IT'S JUST SAYING YOU'RE TRANSFERRING $8,000 INTO THE ACCOUNT.
THAT, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR THE, THE, TO THE, THE TOTAL SURPLUS.
SO SHE'S ASKING FOR THE FUND BALANCE
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FOR THE, THE LAKEFRONT ROYAL FUND.UM, AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I COULD PROVIDE TO YOU TONIGHT.
NO, NOT UNTIL OUR AUDIT IS COMPLETE.
WE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING YOU WITH AN ACCURATE FUND BALANCE.
MUCH LIKE THE AIRPORT, YOU JUST GETTING USED TO THIS OTHER THINGS.
WELL, THE, AND SO, I MEAN, HISTORICALLY THE FUND BALANCE WAS NOT A PART OF THE BUDGET, BUT I USUALLY KNEW WHAT IT WAS AFTER THE AUDIT WAS COMPLETE.
UM, AND THEN WE WOULD IN OLD DAYS, AND NOT TO GO BACK IN TIME, BUT YOU WOULD TAKE THAT AMOUNT AND YOU WOULD ADD IT TO WHAT THEY HAD IN THAT ACCOUNT, DEDICATED FOR THEM.
AND THEN YOU WOULD KNOW, HEY, AT THE END OF THE YEAR WE SPENT $10, WE COLLECTED ADDITIONAL $5 AND AFTER COLLECTIONS AND EVERYTHING IS DUE, THIS IS WHAT YOU HAD IN EXCESS OF WHAT YOU SPENT.
AND WE MOVED THAT OVER, AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE KNEW WHAT THAT FUND BALANCE WAS.
NO, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
YOU KNOW, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SANITARY DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW IT SERVES THE PEOPLE.
AND, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BEING TAXED TO TAKE CARE OF ROADS OR WHATEVER THAT NEEDS THAT THEY NEED TO GET DONE.
AND IF THERE IS A CARRYOVER RIGHT.
UM, FROM THEIR TAXES THAT THEY'RE PAYING, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE AS THE COUNTY, SINCE WE ARE THE O UH, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS, IS THE OVERSIGHT AND THAT'S WRITTEN IN THE CODE THAT WE ARE YES, MA'AM.
THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY SURPLUS OR CARRYOVER THAT WE HAVE PUT ASIDE FOR THESE, UM, SANITARY DISTRICTS ARE ACCOUNTED FOR.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT SAYING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, JUST LIKE WE WERE JUST TALKING, IF THEY HAVE $20,000, WHATEVER, RIGHT.
IF THEY WANNA COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, THAT'S OUR MANAGEMENT RESERVE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW BAD THE SNOW'S GONNA BE NEXT YEAR.
LAST YEAR, LAKEFRONT ROYAL WAS PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE THAT TOOK IN THE APPRAISALS AND ACTUALLY REDUCED BY, UM, TWO POINT SOMETHING.
I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT, BUT, AND REDUCED THEIR RATES BECAUSE OF THE, UM, APPRAISALS BEING SO HIGH.
SO THEY HAVE ACTUALLY REDUCED INSTEAD OF INCREASED.
AND THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR AN INCREASE THIS YEAR.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY WELL GOOD FOR THEM, YOU KNOW, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY ENGAGED.
THEY'RE PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE, I'M NOT PICKING OFF LAKEFRONT ROYAL RIGHT NOW.
I'M JUST SAYING WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, ALL THE SANITARY DISTRICTS.
AND, AND, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANT TO HAVE THE, THE FULL PICTURE AGAIN.
SO IT'S, IT'S TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.
AND SO WE HAVE SET DOWNS AND ALYSSA AND I JUST HAD A SIT DOWN IN THE LAST WHAT WEEK AND WE REVIEWED AND BEAT SOME NUMBERS TO DEATH.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON LAKEFRONT ROYAL? LAKEFRONT ROYAL? OR DID YOU TALK ABOUT SHANNON WOODS? WE KINDA, YOU HIT ON THAT, THAT THEY DID ASK SHANNON WOODS DIDN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING.
UM, THE ONLY ONE THAT ASKED FOR WILDCAT, SORRY, IT WAS WILDCAT DRIVE ON THE MANAGE GROUPS.
AND THEY ASKED FOR A A HUNDRED DOLLARS IMPROVE, INCREASE, A $50 UNIMPROVED INCREASE.
SO THAT WOULD TAKE IT FROM 400 ON AN IMPROVED LOT TO 500 AND IT FROM 150 ON AN UNIMPROVED LOT TO A HUNDRED ON, UM, FROM A, OR FROM A HUNDRED TO 150 ON THE UNIMPROVED LOT.
SO THE TOTAL INCREASE WOULD BE $4,962, UM, TO THEIR BUDGET.
AND THE REASON IS, UM, THEY ARE, WELL, IT'S PROBABLY, IT REALLY OUGHT TO BE A LOT MORE THAN THAT, BUT, UM, ALL THEIR ROADS ACTUALLY DOES HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, TORR AND SHIP OR ASPHALT PATCHING AND UM, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO BEGIN TO MAINTAIN A LOT BETTER.
AND, UM, PERSONALLY THEY, THEY COULD USE DOUBLE THE BUDGET, UM, IF IT WAS UP TO ME.
BUT, UM, IN SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE, WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN WITH OUR STAFF.
UM, THANKFULLY WE'VE DONE A LOT OF INTERNAL, UM, ASPHALT REPAIR AND, AND IT'S BEEN A GOOD, UM, DRY RUN FOR US AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO SOME SMALLER TASK AND ACTUALLY SAVE THEM SOME MONEY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE A GOOD GROUP TO DEAL WITH TOO.
UM, AS YOU SAID, UM, ANYBODY, IF THEY HAVE AN ISSUE, THEY'RE, THEY HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING, THEY'RE ABLE TO COME IN AND SPEAK THEIR, THEIR MIND.
AND IF THEY'RE NOT HAPPY, UM, THEY'RE GONNA LET YOU GUYS KNOW.
SO, SO SPEAKING WITH WILDCAT, THEN, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS WOULD BE ONE, ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS THAT I'M ASKING
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FOR, RIGHT? WHAT THE SURPLUS IS IF THEY'RE RAISING YEAH, THEY'RE RAISING TAXES ON 'EM, YOU KNOW, I WANNA, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR SAVINGS ACCOUNT.AND I CAN SAY, AND THEY COULD BE ZERO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YEAH.
AND WE WERE, UH, AND I'M, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE NOW, BUT I'M JUST ESTIMATE TWO YEARS AGO WE WERE DOING ASPHALT PATCHING AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, FINANCE, HEY, WHERE ARE YOU? WE, WE WANT THE BEST ESTIMATE POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE WANNA SPREAD THIS AS FAR AS WE CAN, FIX AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
YOU KNOW, AT THIS TIME WHILE WE GET THE PEOPLE COMING 'CAUSE MOBILIZATION, WE, WE DO OUR BEST TO SAVE FOR THOSE COMMUNITIES AND THE COUNTY.
IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY MOBILIZATION TWICE OR THREE TIMES, THEN, THEN, THEN IT HELPS EVERYONE ON THE COST.
SO, I MEAN, WE DO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS AGAIN.
UM, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO THIS NEW SYSTEM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE CHALLENGING NAVIGATING THROUGH TRANSITIONS AND, AND, AND GETTING EVERYTHING COMPLETE ON THE, YOU KNOW, AUDIT SIDE AND THE, AND THE CHANGES WE'VE SEEN WITH ACCOUNTING.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK THAT WE'RE ROUNDING THE CORNER AND HOPEFULLY, UM, BECOMING MUCH MORE TRANSPARENT AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'LL BE WONDERFUL IF WE CAN SEE THOSE FUND BALANCES HERE TOO.
UM, BUT LIKE WITH THE ONE IN YOUR GROUP OSPREY LANE, THAT'S, THAT'S A PLACE THAT HAS LIMITED AMOUNT OF ROAD.
BUT WHEN THEY CAME ON AS SMALL AS THEY ARE, I THINK THEY BROUGHT 26,000 OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WITH THEM.
SO THEY DON'T HAVE A CHECKBOOK IN THEIR COMMUNITY, BUT THEY KEEP A CHECKBOOK IN CASE THERE WAS A MA THEY GOT ONE PIPE THERE.
AND SO DO THEY HOLD ON THE 26 K OR IS THAT PART OF THE, OR IS THE COUNTY HOLDING THAT ONE? THE COUNTY HOLDS IT FOR THAT.
SO THE SAME THING, RIGHT? THAT'S THAT'S THEIR MONEY, RIGHT? THAT'S THEIR MONEY, YES MA'AM.
WE ALSO WERE ABLE TO COMBINE EQUIPMENT FROM PARK MAINTENANCE.
SO THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO DO ABOUT A 60% COST SAVINGS ON MECHANIZED PATCHING.
WHERE WILDCAT, PRIOR TO THE MERGER, WE WERE HAVING TO GET A CONTRACTOR.
SO WHEN YOU PAY CARROLL CONSTRUCTION TO COME IN TO DO A HUNDRED FEET OF ASPHALT PATCHING, WE WERE ABLE TO DO IT OURSELVES IN HOUSE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING A HUGE COST SAVINGS ON IZED PATCHING.
WE DID SOME OF THE LAKE MM-HMM.
LONG AS WE'RE NOT EXPENDING COUNTY DOLLARS TO MAKE UP FOR NO.
THEIR, YOU KNOW, ANY, UM, SHORTAGE? NO, MA'AM.
UM, WE, WE CHARGE THEM, THEY PAY FOR MATERIALS AND WE CHARGE THEM FOR OUR TIME, OUR EQUIPMENT.
AND NOTHING COMES OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND? NO, MA'AM.
DALEY HAS ANYTHING FOR US, I THINK WE'RE AT ADJOURNMENT.
THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA, MA'AM.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR A AYE, AYE.
THANK YOU MR. BERRY AND MR. FEL.