* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. YES, [00:00:01] YOU CAN HEAR ME? OKAY. SO, OH, THE [ A. Discussion - FY 2024-2025 County Budget ] MAGIC SPREADSHEET SUPERVISORS MEETING TO, UH, GO OVER. WE'VE HEARD ALL THE DEPARTMENTS OUTSIDE AGENCY, SO WE ARE GONNA TURN THIS OVER, DR. DALEY AND OUR SCOTT MS, TO WALK US THROUGH THIS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO WE WERE GOING TO START, UH, WITH A COUPLE OF THE OVER WRITING ITEMS THAT YOU CAN THEN LOOK AT AND BRING BACK. NEXT THURSDAY. YOU HAVE THE MEETING ON TUESDAY WITH YOUR, UM, SCHOOL BOARD, AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR REGULAR MEETING. AND NEXT THURSDAY WE WILL COME BACK TO THE BUDGET AND WE WILL HAVE LET, NUMBER ONE YOU TAKE THESE TO LOOK AT THIS WEEK. AND THEN NUMBER TWO, WE WILL HAVE NEXT WEEK A DRAFT ON LOOK AT ONLINE ITEMS FOR YOU TO TAKE WITH YOU FOR THE FOLLOWING WEEK. UM, TAKING THE BUDGET IN THE BOX, TOP PAGE IN THERE. UH, THE ITEMS YOU WILL SEE TONIGHT TAKE ABOUT FIVE THOU 5 MILLION OUT OF THE EXPENDITURES. UM, WE HAVE NOT MADE ALL THE REDUCTIONS IN ANY OF THESE AREAS, UM, BUT THESE WERE THE FIRST GROUP, IF YOU WILL, THAT, UH, CLEARLY COULD NOT BE FINANCED THIS YEAR. UM, WE HAVE ASSUMED HERE THE HIGH NUMBER OF SCHOOLS TRANSFER OF 5.7 MILLION WHEN THEY COME IN ON TUESDAY, THAT NUMBER WILL BE ADJUSTED. SO WITH THAT, WE'LL START WITH POSITIONS. JANE, AFTER WE, UM, PRESENTED THE NEW POSITIONS, I GUESS LAST WEEK, UM, WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND WE ARE NOT INCLUDING THE THREE FLOATER FIREFIGHTER POSITION, SO WE'RE ELIMINATING THOSE THREE POSITIONS. AND THE DEPUTY PAGES FOUR AND FIVE, I THINK THEY'RE BLUE WITH RED LINES ON THEM. AND THE, UM, DEPUTY DIRECTOR POSITION FOR PLANNING AND ZONING. WE DO FEEL THE OTHER POSITIONS ARE NEEDED AND CURRENTLY WANT TO KEEP THOSE IN THE BUDGET. UM, THIS REDUCES THE BUDGET BY, UM, ROUGHLY $420,000 WITH THE ELIMINATION OF THOSE FOUR POSITIONS. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THOSE REDUCTIONS? YEAH, THE SHERIFF, UH, NOT THE SHERIFF. I'M SO SORRY. THE FIRE AND RESCUE. SO THEY CAME IN WITH WHAT, HOW MANY? 1, 2, 3, 9 9. AND WE'RE GOING TO FUND HOW MANY? SIX. SIX MM-HMM. . OKAY. AND OUT OF THOSE SIX, WHICH ONES ARE THE PARAMEDICS? OR ARE THEY ALL PARAMEDICS? SO ALL OF THEM ARE BUDGETED AS A, AT A PARAMEDIC RATE. OKAY. IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T, UM, UNDER CUT OUR BUDGET BY HIRING A PARAMEDIC WHEN WE DIDN'T BUDGET FOR IT. OKAY. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND FUND THE FOUR SHERIFF DEPUTIES CORRECT. WHICH IS MM-HMM. , WE PROMISED THAT WE WERE GONNA DO THAT THIS YEAR. YES. SO, AND THEN, UM, AND I'M GOING FROM MY OLD SHEET UHHUH , SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME. SO, AND THEN WE HAVE THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR POSITION. THAT IS THE POSITION WE ARE ELIMINATING. THAT IS ONE OF THE FOUR WE'RE PLANNING AND ZONING. THAT IS THE ONE. OKAY. YES. AND THEN WE HAD THE, UM, PART-TIME CLERK. CORRECT. WE'RE GOING TO FUND THAT ONE AS WELL CURRENTLY? YES. OKAY. AND LET ME, UM, LET ME EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS THE FIRST ROUND FOR YOU TO LOOK AT. OKAY. THE ADMINISTRATION'S FIRST, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S GOING, AS YOU SEE HERE, WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT 18 MILLION. YES. SO WE'RE GONNA GO BE GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING AGAIN, BUT THESE ARE THE FIRST THINGS WE RECOMMEND THAT WE CAN FUND THIS YEAR. OKAY. SO THEN THE, UM, POSITION CHANGE REQUESTS? YES. WITH THESE, THE TWO POSITION CHANGES THAT WE HAVE REMOVED ARE THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND THE OFFICE MANAGER FOR PLANNING AND ZONING THOSE MERIT INCREASES. AND WE FEEL THAT BECAUSE BOTH OF THESE PEOPLE ARE FAIRLY NEW IN POSITION, UM, THAT IF WE'RE ATTACHING ONE, IT WOULD BE BETTER SUITED WITH THE GIS [00:05:01] COORDINATOR. HOW LONG HAVE THEY, HOW LONG HAVE THEY SERVED? SO THE, WELL, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR WAS NEWLY PROMOTED LAST YEAR. OKAY. UM, THE OFFICE MANAGER HAS BEEN IN POSITION, UH, ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS. EIGHT MONTHS? MM-HMM, . OKAY. SO THEN THE, SO THE IT POSITION, THOSE ARE CURRENTLY STILL FUNDED? UM, THE OFFICE MANAGER FOR PARKS AND REC. OKAY. THE PROMOTIONS FOR THE FOUR, UM, CLERK OF THE COURTS, DEPUTY UHHUH, , AND THEN, UM, THE EQUIPMENT OPERATOR FOR, UM, MAINTENANCE BUILDING AND GROUNDS. AND THEN THE MAJOR POSITION FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. SO THE, BUT YOU MAY SEE THESE COME BACK DOWN NEXT ROUND. OKAY. SO THEY'RE, WE'RE NOT, THIS IS ROUND ONE. RIGHT? YEAH. I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THIS IS ROUND ONE THAT SOME OF THESE ARE GOING, WE DON'T EXPECT TO BRING ANY OF THESE BACK UNLESS THE BOARD LOOKS AT IT THIS WEEKEND AND SAYS, HEY, WE REALLY WANNA FUND THIS. BUT YOU MAY SIGN SOME OF THE ONES THAT ARE IN BLACK, MOVE OVER TO THE RED MM-HMM. IN THE NEXT ROUND FOR THE, UM, FOR THE TWO IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING THAT ARE ELIMINATED, UH, WILL THEY, UH, WELL AT LEAST FOR THE PERSON WHO'S BEEN THERE FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, WILL THEY'LL STILL GET A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT? CORRECT. THIS IS SIMPLY IN ADDITION TO. OKAY. SO THEY WOULD STILL RECEIVE THE SAME COST OF LIVING INCREASE THAT ANY OTHER EMPLOYEE WOULD BE RECEIVING. OKAY. AND WHAT ABOUT THE ONE WHO'S BEEN THERE FOR EIGHT MONTHS? SO THAT WITH BOTH THE ZONING AND THE OFFICE MANAGER, THEY WOULD STILL EVERY FULL-TIME AND PART-TIME EMPLOYEE, REGARDLESS OF THEIR TENURE. WHEN WE DO A COLA, THEY DO RECEIVE THAT AT COLA. OKAY. UM, IT, THE MERIT WOULD JUST BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD WAIT UNTIL LATER IF WE DO FUND A MERIT POOL. THANK YOU. SO THE FOUR IN THE CLERK OF THE COURT'S OFFICE, UH, THE BOARD TALKED ABOUT THOSE AND INTENDED TO FUND THEM LAST YEAR. I RE I RECALL THAT AND WE TOOK THEM OUT. WE CUT, IT WAS A 10% AND WE CUT THAT IN HALF LAST YEAR AT THE LAST MINUTE. SO THEY WILL PROBABLY BE THE LAST IN HERE THAT GO TURN TO RED IF THEY DO. BUT THE OTHER FOUR THAT ARE ON HERE, UH, I'VE ASKED JANE TO GO BACK AND EVALUATE. UH, AND WE HAVEN'T FINISHED THAT EVALUATION YET. UH, AND THEY MAY, SO I WOULDN'T GO AND, OR FIVE OF THEM ACTUALLY I WOULDN'T GO AND SPEND IT YET. THE, UM, OFFICE MANAGER FOR PARKS. MM-HMM. , WHAT'S THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT ONE? THE SCOPE OF HER RESPONSIBILITIES IS REALLY MUCH MORE THAN AN OFFICE MANAGER. DOES PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE DONE IF IT WEREN'T FOR HER. UM, SHE HAS DEFINITELY TAKEN ON A HUGE VOLUME OF WORKLOAD. SHE DOES ALL OF THEIR GRANT APPLICATIONS AND REALLY IS QUITE THE NUMBER TWO FOR THE DEPARTMENT. OKAY. I JUST, YEAH, WASN'T SURE. OH, NO. DEFINITELY ABOVE AND BEYOND WHEN WE WEREN'T MM-HMM. REALLY DISCUSSING JUSTIFICATION, RIGHT? MM-HMM. YES. OUR MEETING, RIGHT? YES. MM-HMM. . SO CAN, CAN IS QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? CAN I SAY THAT, UM, THE REASON WHY WE ARE, UM, NOT FILLING THESE POSITIONS BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET? ABSOLUTELY. IF WE HAD THE FUNDING. OKAY. SO BASED, BASED ON REVENUE YES. COMING IN. MM-HMM. , ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE POSITIONS? IF WE HIT THE LOTTERY, WE CHANGE OUR POSITION. RIGHT? WITH CAPITAL, WE MADE MODIFICATIONS TO, THAT'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. MM-HMM? THE BLUE PAGE. I REALIZE SHE USED DIFFERENT COLORS. , I THINK IT'S THIS ONE. YEP. GOT LITTLE LEFT. MY, UH, 24 DASH 28 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT UP AT THE TOP UP HERE. GOT IT. SO WE HAVE SHIFTED SOME OF THE FUNDING FROM FY 25 OUT INTO 26 AND LATER. UM, THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE THE CARPET REPLACEMENT AT THE LIBRARY. WE'RE PROPOSING TO ACTUALLY SHIFT THAT TO NEXT YEAR. MM-HMM. . UM, WE DO FEEL THAT THE COST FOR THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN THE INITIALLY ESTIMATED $85,000 TO COMPLETE IT. UM, BASED OFF OF THE PREVIOUS, UM, CONTRACTORS THAT WE'VE USED THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, UM, THE NET, SO THE ESA LANE TRAINING CENTER, WE HAVE COMPLETELY REMOVED THIS PROJECT. IT IS A PROJECT THAT PROBABLY IS MULTIPLE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, [00:10:01] NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ALLOCATE ANY FUNDS TO AT THIS TIME. THERE'S BEEN NO PLANNING OR, UM, REALLY LONG TERM IMPLEMENTATION OR IDEAS FOR HOW WE'RE GONNA EXECUTE THAT PROJECT. SO WE'RE REMOVING IT COMPLETELY. WELL WE CAN OH. MM-HMM? ? YES. CAN YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY ON STATE? SO IT'S THE FIRE TRAINING CENTER. UM, WE HAD THREE TRAILERS BURNT DOWN, TWO OF THEM. UM, AND FIRE TRAINING EXERCISES, SIR. RIGHT. I THINK WE HAVE ONE LIFT, RIGHT? WE DO HAVE ONE MORE. IS THAT, IS THAT UP BY THE SMITHSONIAN? LIKE KIND OF BACK IN THERE ON THE LOWER SIDE? IT'S ACTUALLY TOWARDS LONDON. OKAY. BUT BACK SIDE ON THE BACKSIDE UP. OKAY. UM, SO THAT PROJECT RIGHT NOW, IT IS NOT A, ON THE PRIORITY LIST FOR FIRE AND RESCUE. IT IS NOT AT THE TOP TIER. UM, THE NEXT AND BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, UHHUH , UM, BE, UH, I THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR A TRAINING CENTER HERE A HUNDRED PERCENT BECAUSE IT WOULD REDUCE THE COST OF OUR, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY PEOPLE SITTING THERE TRAIN, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM. THEIR, THEIR PEOPLE OUT FOR TRAINING AND UM, THAT KIND OF THING. SO COULD IT, WHEN WE SAY WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW, WILL THAT MEAN THIS LINE WILL GO AWAY OR WILL IT STAY WHERE WE CAN ALWAYS REVISIT IT THERE? YOU KNOW, FOLLOW ON YEARS? ABSOLUTELY. ALWAYS. AND THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT DEVELOPING A REGIONAL TRAINING ACADEMY. UHHUH, , I THINK THE FIRE CHIEF AND THE SHERIFF HAVE BOTH DISCUSSED OPTIONS AND KIND OF EXPLORING THAT. I THINK RIGHT NOW THE COST ANALYSIS HASN'T NECESSARILY BEEN DONE AS TO HOW TO DO IT AND WHERE TO DO IT. SO I THINK IT DEFINITELY NEEDS A LITTLE MORE PLANNING. SO FY 25 IS NOT THE YEAR FOR IT. YEAH, I AGREE. YEAH, IT'S NOT GONE ON FOREVER. OKAY. GOOD. UM, THE NEXT, UM, WITH THE CANCER PREVENTION MEASURES, THAT IS STILL IN THE BUDGET. THERE IS NO CHANGE. WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT, UM, STILL THE $250,000 WITH THE NORTH WARREN FIRE STATION REMODEL, WE STILL HAVE THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ALLOCATED FOR THAT. AND FOR THE FIRE STATION AND ENHANCEMENTS, WE STILL HAVE $150,000 ALLOCATED FOR, UM, THEM FOR FY 25. YOU WILL NOTICE UNDER THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THE SHIFT FROM THE FUNDING FOR THE TOTAL COST OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE, UM, CAD AND, UM, RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WAS ACTUALLY SPREAD OUT. AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE DO NEED TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, EXPLORATION INTO FINANCING OPTIONS. I KNOW ALYSSA HAS REACHED OUT TO OUR VML PARTNERS, UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT ARE BASICALLY OPTIONS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IN ORDER TO FUND IT. UM, WHETHER IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO OVER MULTIPLE YEARS, UM, IN ORDER TO FINANCE IT AND MAKE THAT PILL A LITTLE EASIER TO SWALLOW. YEAH. SO THE 361 K THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS YEAR, SO WHAT IS THAT GONNA DO? THAT'S A FOUR YEAR OPTION FOR FINANCING. SO IT'S BASICALLY DIVIDING OUT THE COST FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION AND THEN THE ANNUAL SERVICE AGREEMENT OVER FOUR YEARS RATHER THAN ONE LUMP SUM. AND THEN JUST THE ANNUAL SERVICE AGREEMENTS AFTERWARDS. SO THE 361 K WILL GET SPENT? CORRECT. CURRENTLY NOW ARE ARE, ARE YOU SURE THAT IF WE SPREAD IT OUT LIKE THAT, THAT THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THE, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, THAT THEY'LL HAVE FULL ACCESS TO EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED WITH THIS SYSTEM? YEAH. UM, ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY NEED, THEY'RE SAYING YES. OKAY. AND THIS NUMBER MAY CHANGE AS WE LOOK AT THESE OTHER FINANCING OPTIONS, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN BUY THE ENTIRE PACKAGE BUT FINANCE IT OVER A SERIES OF YEARS. THIS IS A FOUR YEAR MODEL. WE MIGHT END UP WITH A FIVE YEAR MODEL OR SOMETHING. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF, IF WE DID THIS, THAT THAT THEY WOULDN'T, THEY WOULD BE, THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE RESTRICTED TO, OH, YOU CAN'T USE THIS MODULE YET BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T PAID FOR IT. I CAN, I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE TOO. MOTOROLA, UH, WORKS A LOT WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. SO THEY TYPICALLY HAVE A FINANCING ARM AND THEIR FINANCING ARM ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE FULL IMPLEMENTATION AND FULL USE OF THEIR PRODUCT, BUT PAY FOR IT OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS. UH, TYPICALLY IT'S PRETTY COMPETITIVE, BUT WE DO WANNA SHOP AROUND TO GET THE BEST 0% INTEREST THAT WE CAN. UH, SO WE'RE GONNA COMPARE THE VML VACO FINANCING TO WHAT MOTOROLA COULD POTENTIALLY OFFER. UH, THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT WE THINK ARE GONNA BE, OR THE ONE THING THAT WE THINK IS GONNA BE ABLE TO SPREAD THIS PROJECT COST OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS RATHER THAN HAVE, HAVE THAT ONE TIME HIT UP FRONT. ALRIGHT. I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT CAD IN THIS CONTEXT. MAYBE IT'S FOR CRYSTAL ACTUALLY. IS, IS THAT COMPUTER ASSISTED DISPATCH OR? YES. [00:15:01] OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, I'M SORRY. THE NEXT PROJECT IS THE, UM, HAPPY CREEK FANTASY LAND REBUILD. SO WITH THIS, WE ARE PROJECTING, SHIFTING THE FUNDING TO, UM, BASICALLY FROM FY 25 TO FY 27, WE ALREADY HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR FY 26 BUDGETED. SO BASICALLY WE'RE JUST PUSHING THE PROJECT BACK ANOTHER YEAR. UH, AND THEN WITH THE ROCKLAND PARK ATHLETIC FIELDS, WE WOULD BE DOING THE SAME THING WITH THAT, SHIFTING THE PROJECT BACK AN ADDITIONAL YEAR. AND THE SOCIAL SERVICES RECONFIGURATION FOR, UM, THE FRONT DESK IS STILL INCLUDED IN OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR FY 25? YES. QUESTION ON PUSHING BACK THE, UH, PARK. IT'S BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IS A GRANT PROCESS. MM-HMM. IS THAT GONNA MESS THAT PROCESS UP ANY BECAUSE THEY STILL HAVE THE FUNDING AND THEY'RE WANTING US TO CONTINUE TO APPLY AND PUSH FORWARD. WE DON'T FEEL THAT IT'S A THREE YEAR GRANT, SO IT SHOULD NOT CAUSE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. AND WE ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY REDUCING IT, UM, BASED OFF OF THE SCOPE. 'CAUSE CURRENTLY THE GRANT DOES INCLUDE THE HOUSE AND THE BARN ON THE FACILITY AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S NECESSARY. OKAY. SO, SO DR. DALEY, CAN, CAN YOU, UH, I'M KIND OF CONFUSED ON SOME OF THE FIGURES HERE IN THAT WE START OUT WITH THAT ONE PAGE THAT SAYS 5 MILLION AND THEN WE DROPPED THAT 18 MILLION. ARE WE SHORT 5 MILLION OR ARE WE SHORT 18 MILLION? IF EVERYBODY HAD EVERYTHING THEY WANTED, INCLUDING THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, WE WOULD BE 18, SIR. OKAY. THAT'S, IF EVERYBODY HAS EVERYTHING WHEN WHAT THESE CHANGES JANE'S SUGGESTING HERE AND WHAT ALYSSA'S GONNA TALK ABOUT TAKES THE FIRST 5 MILLION OUT OF THAT. OKAY. 'CAUSE WE WERE 23 NOW WE'LL BE 18. SO, SO THEN IF, IF WE GET DOWN TO 18, BUT WE STILL HAVEN'T DEALT WITH THE SCHOOL YET, CORRECT? YES. WE'RE JUST KIND OF LIKE GOING WITH THE PLACEHOLDER NUMBER THERE. STRAWMAN NUMBER, THE 5.7 WE TOOK, IF YOU REMEMBER LAST WEEK THEY HAD THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL AND THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE, AND WE TOOK THE HIGH OF THOSE THREE NUMBERS. SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT IT'S GONNA DROP. WE JUST AREN'T SURE HOW MUCH YET. BUT WE, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT IT WILL DROP, DROP AND THEN AFTER THE BOARD LOOKS AT THE BUDGET, IT MAY DROP AGAIN TO SOMETHING. UM, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WILL GET EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THEIR REQUEST. THIS IS, UH, WE HAVE EVERYBODY THREW EVERYTHING IN THE WISH POT THERE, SO SOME OF IT HAS TO COME OUT. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO SCOTT. UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO EMAIL YOU THE ASSET REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE TOMORROW, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE FY 25 REQUESTS. IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE'VE ALREADY PLACED IN THE ASSET REPLACEMENT PROGRAM. THE TWO DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE IMPACTED MOST BY THAT WOULD BE, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THE FIRE AND RESCUE AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE THEIR TANKERS, THEIR EMS UNITS, AND THEN ANY OF THE POLICE EQUIPMENT, UM, AND RADIO UPGRADES FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND, UH, COMMUNICATIONS AS WELL. SO ONCE I GET THOSE TWO DOCUMENTS PUT TOGETHER, I WILL EMAIL THAT TO YOU FOR ASSET REPLACEMENT. UH, I'LL ALSO BE SENDING OUT THE UPDATED ASSET REPLACEMENT LIST THAT SHOWS YOU THE VEHICLES THAT, UM, WE FEEL IS MOST IMMEDIATE TO BE REPLACED. UH, SO YOU'LL HAVE A A LIST TO COMPARE THAT TO AS WELL. SO IT, WHEN, WHEN WE REPLACE VEHICLES, I MEAN, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE GET SOME TYPE OF CREDIT FROM SOMEBODY ON THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO AUCTION OR GIVE THE VEHICLES AWAY PER STATE CODE? SO ONE THING THAT, UM, HAS TYPICALLY HAPPENED IN THE PAST IS THAT THE SCHOOLS WOULD, UM, HAVE A VEHICLE BE BE TRANSFERRED OVER TO THEM. SO I THINK LAST WEEK THERE WAS A VEHICLE REQUESTED TO HAVE, UH, BE TRANSFERRED FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO THE BUS BARN SCHOOL AUTO MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. UM, SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THAT JUST GOES OVER TO THE SCHOOL'S ASSETS. AND THEN, THEN FINALLY WHEN THE, WHEN THE SCHOOL'S DONE WITH IT, IT'S, IT'S THEIRS TO DISPOSE OF AS THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DISPOSE OF IT. UH, ANYTHING THAT WE DON'T FEEL, UH, THE SCHOOL'S NEEDS ARE BASICALLY WE WANNA AUCTION OFF. WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH CAPITAL AUTO AUCTION. UM, IN MY EXPERIENCE THAT'S BEEN THE BEST AUTO AUCTION COMPANY TO GIVE, UH, THE COUNTY THE BEST BANK FOR A BUCK WHEN IT COMES TO DISPOSITION OF PUBLIC PROPERTY. SO WE DO HAVE A, A SMALL INCOME FROM [00:20:01] THAT. UM, IT'S KIND OF A REVOLVING DOOR, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT THAT INCOME MIGHT BE. UH, I KNOW WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF AMBULANCES THAT WE'RE GONNA GET READY TO AUCTION OFF SO I CAN UPDATE THE BOARD ON WHAT THAT REVENUE LOOKS LIKE. SO I HAVE THE OLD SHEET HERE AND UM, SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE REQUESTS BE, UH, BEFORE YOU THE LIST THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE SENDING OUT TO EVERYBODY. YES. RIGHT. SO THE ASK WAS $4.2 MILLION. SO HOW MUCH DID YOU REDUCE ? 2 MILLION. 2 MILLION. WE REDUCED 2 MILLION. APPROXIMATELY 2 MILLION? YES. OH, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. AND IT WAS MOSTLY A SHIFT IN THE SCHEDULING OF WHEN, UM, WE WOULD MAKE THESE SAVED UP PAYMENTS, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY. SO FOR FIRE AND RESCUE, THERE'S NO NEW REQUESTS FOR 25. IT'S BEEN PUSHED OUT TO F 4 26 TO F UM, FY 29. UM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE INCLUDED THE CURRENT THREE TRUCKS THAT WE HAVE ON ORDER. MM-HMM. . AND WE'RE EXPECTED TO GET ONE THIS FISCAL YEAR, ONE IN 25 AND ANOTHER IN 26. OH, EXCELLENT. AND SO I'LL INCLUDE WHAT THOSE BUDGET NUMBERS ARE AFTER WE'VE MADE THOSE, UM, DEPOSITS ON THOSE TRUCKS SO WE KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE TO SPEND YET FOR THOSE TRUCKS. AND THE REVENUE THAT'S COMING IN FOR ONE TRUCK WOULD BE SOUTH WARREN. UM, AND THEN THE EMS UNITS ARE, ARE THE SAME. MM-HMM. AS WELL. OKAY. VERY GOOD. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOUR LIST. THANK YOU. SO, EDA MM-HMM. . UM, YOU HAVE PAGE LIKE THIS WITH EDA UP HERE IN THE CORNER. UH, THIS IS THE FIRST CUT AGAIN ON THINGS. UH, LOOKING AT THE EXPENDITURES, WE ANTICIPATE THAT NO MORE THAN TWO AUDITS WILL BE DONE NEXT YEAR. SO WE HAVE PROPOSED TO FUND TWO OF THEM. MM-HMM. , WE HAVE REDUCED ITEMS THAT SHOULD BE IN, UH, MR. PETTY'S BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, PROSPECT EXPENSES, PRINTING INTEREST. UM, IF THEY ARE IN THIS BUDGET, THE EDA DECIDES WHERE THEY GO. IF THEY ARE IN MR. PETTY'S BUDGET, THE BOARD DECIDES WHERE THEY GO AND WHEN THEY GET MOVED, UH, THEY ARE LOOKING NOT, UM, QUESTIONING ANYBODY, BUT THEY HAVE TO MEET TOMORROW AND ARE GONNA MAKE SOME BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS THAT TO PAY SOME, SOME OF THEIR SERVICES THAT THE BOARD MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY WANT TO CONTINUE PAYING IF THE MONEY WAS IN YOUR CONTROL. SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT MORE OF THIS MONEY, AND WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN, BUT MORE OF THIS GO OVER TO YOUR OVERSIGHT AND CONTROL THERE AND THROUGH MR. PETTY'S BUDGET. SO HIS BUDGET WILL BE ADJUSTED A BIT AND WE'LL BRING THAT BACK NEXT WEEK. HE, HE'S WORKING ON THAT. UH, THE BIG THING THAT'S OUT OF HERE IS THE IT FEDERAL LOAN, UH, THAT THEY PROPOSED HERE, ABOUT EIGHT ITEMS FROM THE BOTTOM. UH, WE HAVE REMOVED THAT. WE LEFT, UH, A SERIES THAT YOU SEE THERE OF UTILITIES AND PHONE, INTERNET, THINGS THAT THEY NEED INSURANCE FOR THEIR PROPERTIES. UH, PRIMARILY OUT AT THE HAPPY CREEK INDUSTRIAL PARK AND ON KENRICK LANE. UM, WE WILL PROBABLY BE REDUCING THE MAINTENANCE ITEM AFTER WHAT THEY DO TOMORROW. UM, WE HAVE SEPARATED, COMING BACK UP TO THE REVENUES, WE LEFT THE UNITED BANK LEACH RUN PARKWAY LOAN, WHICH IS ABOUT INCLUDING PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST. IT'S ABOUT 47 A YEAR . AND [00:25:01] SO IT IS BY AN AGREEMENT RATIFIED BY THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY BOARD BOTH THAT THEY WERE GOING TO REIMBURSE FOR THAT SPECIFICALLY. WE BOTH SAID WE WERE GONNA DO THAT. SO WE HAVE BROKEN THAT OUT TO SHOW THE COUNTY SHARE AND THE TOWN SHARE UP ABOVE, UP ABOVE IN THE REVENUES PART THERE, YOU SEE, OH, I SEE. DEBT SERVICE COUNTY AND BELOW A DEBT SERVICE DOWN. OH, THERE WE GO. UH, WE CANNOT FIND ANYTHING REGARDING THE AVTEX LOAN THAT WHERE THE COUNTY OR THE TOWN EVER COMMITTED TO ANYTHING. AND SO THAT ONE'S SITTING THERE, THIS 82,000 FOR THE TIME BEING. BUT THAT, AND THEN THE LAST ONE, THIS CONSOLIDATED FIRST BANK AND TRUST, WE DO NOT FIND ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE RESOLUTION SAYING THAT AS LONG AS THE BOARD DESIRED TO BUDGET NO REQUIREMENT, IT WAS ON A BOARD'S OPTION THAT MR. HAM HAS TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE BEFORE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE NEXT ROUND HERE MAY VERY WELL BE SOME OF THESE OTHER LOANS. BUT THE FIRST ONE TO COME OUT, IS IT FEDERAL? BECAUSE THAT'S, WE HAVE NO OBLIGATION THERE. THE, UH, THE COMBINED MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . YES. NOW, ARE WE STILL LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO PAY THAT 214,000? NO. OKAY. SO THAT'S NOT PART OF IN HERE. I I IS THE 214 IS YOUR OBLIGATION AS LONG AS YOU BUDGET IT, WE BUDGET IT. SO THE 204, IF YOU DON'T BUDGET IT, YOU DON'T HAVE AN OBLIGATION IT. OKAY. JUST WANNA MAKE SURE. SO, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THEN THAT'S NOT IN THIS BUDGET. THE 204 THAT IS IN HERE, THE CONSOLIDATED LOAN IS IN HERE RIGHT NOW. OH, THAT'S THE FIVE, THAT'S, THAT INCLUDES THAT 111 DOWN THERE UNDER THE COMBINED AND THEN IT'S PART OF THE 500 INTEREST. OKAY. SO THAT'S, SO IT'S IN THERE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. BUT, UM, OKAY. THAT'S, THAT TAKES THE LOANS AND SHOWS THE, UH, PAYMENT SHEET THAT MR. PETTY HAS FOR EACH LOAN AND THEN IT ADDS UP ALL THE INTEREST COLUMNS. SO IS THAT ? NO. OKAY. IT'S, UH, THAT'S WITHIN A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS. IT'S LIKE 4 98. IT'S NOT 500. EXACTLY. NO, SIR. AND ON, ON LEGAL, THE 500 THAT WENT TO 50 YES SIR. WAS THAT EXPECTING SOMETHING FROM THE BANK AND THEN WE'RE NO LONGER EXPECTING THAT AND THE LEGAL CAN GO DOWN? IS THAT SOMETHING ELSE THAT, THAT IS ANTICIPATED THAT, UH, NUMBER ONE, THERE ARE ONLY TWO OF THE ORIGINAL LAWSUITS REMAINING TO BE SETTLED. MM-HMM. . AND THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THE COURTS AND THEY'RE JUST ON APPEAL AND THEY ARE SUBJECT TO NEGOTIATION. UH, THE EDA IS GOING TO MEET ON ONE OF THEM TOMORROW. UM, THE OTHER ONE, UM, IS THE PROP. THE POTENTIAL IS IMMINENT, LEMME PUT IT THAT WAY, THAT IT COULD BE SETTLED. UH, THIS 50,000 IS IN THERE FOR THE TIME BEING, BUT THAT, WE MAY WANT TO TAKE THAT BACK TOO. THERE IS THE MONEY FOR SUING OTHER, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAS BEEN REMOVED. IT IS NOT IN HERE. UM, AND THERE IS NO MONEY FOR STARTING ANY OTHER NEW SUITS. UH, THERE'S JUST, UH, FINISHING UP A LITTLE BIT. UH, AND WITH THE, UH, SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO FILE AGAINST THE A EDA, WE WOULD ADDRESS THAT AS WE, THE BOARD DETERMINED IT FELT IT SHOULD AT THAT TIME. UM, WE MAY MOVE THIS BACK OVER TO MR. PETTY'S BUDGET AGAIN. SO THERE'S NOT AS MUCH FLUID MONEY OVER HERE. UM, STILL LOOKING AT THAT. OKAY. SO HERE, ENGINEERS AND CONSULTANTS THAT WENT DOWN. YES. SO THAT WOULD GO OVER, UM, WE LEFT 4,000 THERE. UM, THAT MAY GO DOWN. WE WERE MOVING THAT OVER TO MR. PETTY'S BUDGET. AND SO, UH, COULD, COULD YOU REMIND ME, WHAT'S THE ENGINEERS AND CONSULTANTS [00:30:01] TO DO? UH, A PROJECT LIKE MAKING THE SITE OUT, UH, ON, UM, BALL DRIVE? OH, YES. J UH, READY FOR, BUT WITH, UM, WITH THE EMINENT SALES ON PROPERTIES, THE ONLY PROPERTY REMAINED TO GO OUT AND HAVE ENGINEERED IS OUT IN HAPPY CREEK INDUSTRIAL PARK. AND WE'RE NOT SURE IF WE NEED TO DO THAT OR NOT. SO WE'RE, WE DON'T NEED TO BE DOING ENGINEERING STUDIES UNLESS THEY'RE GONNA SHOW SOMETHING. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. , MAY I ASK, UH, ON THIS, THERE'S ROW ON THIS SHEET SAYS EA TRANSFERS 1-864-LOOKING FOR YEAH. RESPONDING TO THAT. YEAH. WHERE ARE YOU LOOKING SIR? WELL, THIS SHEET. OKAY, SO THERE'S A . I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING CORRESPONDING TO THAT. THIS NUMBER WILL CHANGE THIS 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T REVISED IT AND I AM THE ONE WHO DID NOT DO IT. I MADE THIS, BOTH OF THESE, THIS 1, 8, 6 4, EXCUSE ME, IS BASED ON THE ORIGINAL REQUEST OF THE EDA. THEY ASKED FOR 1, 5, 6 4, AND THEN THEY ASKED FOR AN ADDITIONAL 300. THAT'S WHERE IT CAME FROM. BUT I'M GONNA CHANGE IT. I HAVEN'T DONE IT. THE LATEST IS THAT THIS HAS TO BEEN, THE ADJUSTMENT SHOWS THE TRANSFER DOWN AT 9 66. YES. SO THAT'S WHAT GO IN THAT RIGHT SIDE COLUMN. RIGHT. AND IT, UH, WE GOT THIS BACK AFTER MY PLANE WITH IT THIS PAST WEEK LATER THAN I HAD THIS DONE UP TO GET IT TO ZACH AND I DID NOT MAKE THE CHANGE. OKAY. BUT IT, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA CHANGE. THIS IS, UM, SO THAT'S ANOTHER TRANSFERS THAT TO US PUTTING IT INTO THE EDA. MM-HMM. . AND THAT'S, IS THAT RELATED TO, OR NOT RELATED TO KEEPING BACK AND DOING IT IN THE COUNTY? EA? YES. SO IS IT IS RELATED? YES. YES, IT'S RELATED BECAUSE, UM, IT'S THAT REDUCTION FROM THE 1 5, 6 3 TO THE 9 6 6 PUTTING A PORTION OVER WITH EDA AND KEEPING BACK A PORTION AND THE COUNTY EDA OR IS IT JUST A REDUCTION? IT PUTS THE MONEY HERE. IT TAKES THE, THE BIG REDUCTION IS THE IT FEDERAL LOAN. THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE BIG REDUCTION IN BETWEEN THE TWO. AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER SMALLER WINS IN HERE. OKAY. WELL ON THIS 9 66, IS IT A, IS IS WHAT I THINK I HEARD YOU SUGGEST. THAT MAY CHANGE BASED ON HOW MUCH WE KEEP BACK AND PUT IN MR. PET'S DEPARTMENT VERSUS, UH, TRANSFER. IF, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM DOWN HERE UNDER THE DEBT SERVICE, IF THE BOARD DECIDES TO DISCONTINUE PAYMENT OF ANY OF THOSE LOANS, THEN THAT WILL ACCORDINGLY REDUCE THE TRANSFER. THE ONLY LOAN UP HERE THAT YOU ARE OBLIG, EXCUSE ME, OBLIGATED TO IS THE LOAN FOR THAT 28,000, WHICH IS ALSO HAS ABOUT, UH, 20,000 IN INTEREST. THAT'S THE LOAN ON LEACH RUN PARKWAY THAT THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY BOTH SIGNED, RATIFIED AND SIGNED FOR THE APPROVAL. SO WE OWE THAT. UH, THE OTHERS WE DO NOT. AND WE CAN TAKE THEM OUT. AND AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, YOU MAY COME BACK NEXT WEEK AND HAVE THEM SLOW LOWERED. AND AS THAT LOWERS THEN THE 9 66 LOWERS. SO I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR, UM, EDA REVENUE. WE HAVE A ROW HERE FOR LEGAL RECOVERIES AND THERE, IT, THERE'S NO NUMBER THERE. AND I, GIVEN I UNDERSTAND THAT THINGS ARE IN THE WORKS AND STUFF, AND MAYBE THE EDA WILL BE SELLING SOME PROPERTIES IN NEXT, IN THIS FISCAL YEAR. AND IF, IF WE DO AND WE HAVE THAT 50 50 SPLIT, THESE NUMBERS COULD BE ADJUSTED AT THAT POINT IN TIME. MM-HMM. THEY CAN, NUMBER ONE, THEY CAN BE ADJUSTED TO ADD OF, THERE'S ONE SALE THAT WAS COMPLETED THIS PAST WEEK. [00:35:01] MM-HMM. . AND THAT MONEY HAS, IS IN THE TREASURER'S OFFICE AND IS BEING DIVIDED. THERE WAS A PENNY'S DIFFERENCE AND WE SAID THE BANK COULD HAVE IT . WE GOT, UH, UH, HOW MUCH WAS IT? DO YOU REMEMBER? IT'S JUST UNDER 600,000, LIKE FIVE 80 SOMETHING. 1321 HAPPY CREEK. YES. AND THE CAR WASH AND THE BANK GOT THE 5 86 PLUS A PENNY, PLUS A PENNY. AND THOSE MONIES WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE COUNTY ACCOUNTS, UH, EITHER TODAY, PROBABLY TOMORROW AT THIS POINT. RIGHT. UH, THE, WE ANTICIPATE AT LEAST ONE MORE PROPERTY WILL CLOSE THIS YEAR. MM-HMM. . AND THEN THAT ONE LEGAL SETTLEMENT WILL COME ABOUT AND THAT WILL THEN BE DISPERSED TO THE BANK AND THE COUNTY. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WILL PROBABLY SELL, THE ED'S GOING TO APPROVE AN EXTENSION OF THEIR CONTRACT TOMORROW, BUT WE'LL PROBABLY CLOSE IN 25. WE DON'T WANNA PUT IT IN HERE UNTIL THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENS. AND IF IT DOES, IT'S GONNA BE A WASH. IT'S GONNA BE A, ACTUALLY A RECOVERY SALE OF PROPERTY AND A TRANSFER TO THE BANK BECAUSE THE COUNTY WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROPERTY. MM-HMM. . OKAY. SO THERE, THERE MAY BE SOME NEXT YEAR, BUT WE DID NOT, BUT THIS YEAR WE DID BUDGET THAT 600,000, UH, NEXT YEAR WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE THEY'LL BE THERE. YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. SO LOOKING AT THE BOTTOM LINE, WE WERE ABLE TO, TO CUT $1.1 MILLION. WELL, IT'LL COME SOME MORE. OH, THAT WOULD BE NICE. I THINK BEFORE IT'S, BEFORE IT'S DONE. GOOD JOB. UM, PARTNER AGENCIES, WHICH COLOR ONE IS THAT? IT'S THIS, THE ONE WITH THE REAL SMALL PRINT. THIS IS THE ONE CAN'T READ, INCLUDING ME. I CAN'T READ IT EITHER. . OOH, BOY. UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE YEAR? LOOKING AT THOSE? UH, MOST OF THE AGENCIES YOU WILL SEE ARE RECOMMENDED FOR THE SAME, UH, FUNDING THAT THEY HAD THIS PAST YEAR. DID WE COPY THE RIGHT PAGE? NO, THERE'S NO NUMBER IN THAT NOW. THERE IS NO NUMBER HERE. IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR REVENUES, I'LL GO FIND THE RIGHT PAGE. OKAY. I'LL BE BACK IN A MINUTE. SO I'LL PAGE THE OTHER PACKET. SEE, UH, UH, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE MEDIA PRICE OF HOUSES IS OR THE, OR THE, THE AVERAGE, UH, VALUATION THE HOUSES IS IN THE, IN THE COUNTY? I DO NOT, BUT I CAN LOOK INTO THAT. UH, THE, THE ONLY REASON I'M I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE I JUST WANTED TO GET A GENERAL IDEA IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU RAISED IT, I FIGURED IT'S, IT'S $1 PER $10,000 VALUATION IS WHAT IT COMES OUT TO, YOU KNOW, BUT WHEN IT'S A PENNY FOR A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND THE, UH, AND SO I WAS LOOKING AT THAT. I WAS SAYING, OKAY, WELL, UH, LET'S SAY A $500,000 HOUSE VALUE VALUED AT $500,000. WELL THAT MEANS THAT, UH, THE, THE TAXES ON THAT WOULD GO UP. UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU RAISE ONE PENNY, WHICH WOULD BE $1 PER 10,000, WELL THAT'D BE $50, YOU KNOW, PER PER YEAR. AND, UH, SO THE, UH, SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? WE RAISED IT 30 CENTS. WELL, WE ALL PROBABLY GET LUNCH, SO WE WON'T EVEN GO THERE . SO THE, UH, UM, BUT I, I WAS JUST TRYING TO, TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, WELL WHAT'S THE AVERAGE THERE? YEAH, I CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT. OKAY. SHERRY WOULD PROBABLY, YEAH, I'LL ASK SHERRY, WE CAN RAISE YOURS. 30 CENTS . OKAY. THAT SOUNDS GOOD. . ROGER, DID YOU CAPTURE THAT? , DID YOU PUT THE REVENUES? I DIDN'T. REVENUES? NO. DO YOU HAVE THEM? I DO NOT. LEMME SEE IF THAT, OKAY. THEY HAVE THEM. YES. THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING IS, IS THAT YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE REVENUES RIGHT HERE, THE YELLOW ONE, RIGHT? YES. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING NEXT. THANK YOU, JEAN. APPRECIATE [00:40:01] THAT. THIS IS A, WHAT WE WENT OVER LAST WEEK, THIS GIVES YOU A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT, UH, THE ESTIMATED REVENUES FOR NEXT YEAR. A COUPLE OF CHANGES THAT WE MADE TO THE SPREADSHEET FROM LAST WEEK IS SHOWING WHAT WE ESTIMATE THE CURRENT REAL ESTATE TAX TO BE, PLUS ANY DELINQUENT TAXES THAT WE EXPECT TO, UM, REPORT FOR REVENUE, ANYTHING PRIOR TO FISCAL YEAR 24. SO WE ESTIMATED THAT TO BE ABOUT 500,000 PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES. WE'VE HEARD THE TREND IS DOWN 5% IN VALUATIONS. SO THAT IS ALSO REFLECTED IN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE ESTIMATE FOR, FOR 25 AND CURRENT YEAR 24. AND THIS IS WITH THE SAME TAX RATE AS YEAH. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. BOTH FOR REAL ESTATE AND FOR PERSONAL PROPERTY. THIS DOES NOT OFFER ANY, ANY CHANGE PREDICTIONS OR YEAH, EXACTLY. . AND THEN IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE BUSINESS LICENSE, WE HAVE NOT, UM, COLLECTED A WHOLE LOT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THAT'S DUE IN, IN MARCH. SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE A WHOLE LOT OF INCOME FROM THE BUSINESS LICENSES QUITE YET. THAT'LL CHANGE IN THE, IN THE NEXT MONTH, LOOKING AT PENALTIES AND TAX ON TAXES THAT YES. MM-HMM, , THE COMPLAINTS BEGIN. I'M SURPRISED THAT MANY PEOPLE DON'T PAY ON THAT. AND WITH THE LODGING THAT IS TRENDING UPWARD. SO WE HAVE INCREASED THAT REVENUE BY 33%. NOW THE LODGING AND THE MILLS, IS THAT WITHOUT THE TOWN'S CUT, OR IS THAT TOTAL? THAT'S IN TOTAL. SO WE STILL, UH, THAT WE DO WRITE A CHECK TO THE TOWN FOR 30% OF IT. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. OKAY. SO THAT'S NOT IN HERE. NO, THAT WOULD BE AN EXPENDITURE. THAT'S AN EXPENDITURE THAT IS THAT WE HAVE CAPTURED SOMEPLACE. IT IS, YES. OKAY. . SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS REVENUE, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT PART, YOU HAVE THIS YES. YEAH. IT'S IT'S ONE SIDE OF THE TWO SIDES. EXACTLY RIGHT. OKAY. AND ON PAGE FOUR, INTEREST ON BANK DEPOSITS. THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE DUE TO, UH, THE INVESTMENTS THE COUNTY HAS THROUGH THE TREASURER'S OFFICE THAT THE TREASURER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR. UM, PAGE FIVE AT THE TOP DSS LEGAL FEES TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THAT'S DECREASED BY A HUNDRED PERCENT BECAUSE DSS NOW HAS THEIR, UH, ATTORNEY HAS THEIR OWN ATTORNEY, EXCUSE ME. IN ADDITION WOULD BE THE FIRE AND RESCUE TRAINING SERVICES. SO THAT WOULD BE A, IT'S A NEW REQUEST. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING INTO THE SANITATION FEES. I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THAT NEXT WEEK. MM-HMM, , GO AHEAD. SKIP PAGE SIX. AT THE SHARED EXPENSES. UM, ON PAGE SEVEN, THAT IS, UH, FROM THE COMP BOARD. REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE COMP BOARD, AND THERE'S FEDERAL AID ON PAGE EIGHT. UH, PAGE NINE IS SHOWING YOU YOUR S-L-F-R-F, AFFECTIONATELY KNOWN AS S LRF AND L-A-T-C-F AND ARPA. THOSE ARE NOT EXPECTED REVENUES FOR 25. AND THE TRANSFERS IS THE LAST, UH, NOT THE LAST CATEGORY, BUT SECOND TO LAST CATEGORY. THAT INCLUDES YOUR, UM, SANITARY DISTRICTS. [00:45:01] THAT'S THE ADMIN FEE FOR THAT, PLUS THE THREE 50 ONCE A YEAR, UH, PRIOR YEAR FUND BALANCE. UM, THAT'S FOR 24 3 0.6 MILLION. WE DON'T PROPOSE CURRENTLY TO USE PRIOR YEAR FUND BALANCE TO SUPPLEMENT THE BUDGET. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY REVENUES? UH, I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR THE REAL ESTATE TAXES, UM, FOR 2024 AMENDED THE 33 MILLION, IS THAT, UM, DO YOU KNOW THE ROUGH SPLIT? HOW MUCH IS RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE? I DO NOT. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. OKAY. I'LL ALSO ASK SHERRY THAT THERE MIGHT BE A SLIGHT INCREASE TO YOUR 5.6 MILLION IN YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE TAX. UH, SHERRY JUST RAN AN EDIT ON THAT TODAY, SO SHE CAN SEND THAT OVER TO ME. WHAT THAT MEANS IS, UH, THE CLOSER THAT WE GET IN OUR REASSESSMENT TO A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE VALUATION OF YOUR HOUSE OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, THE MORE MONEY THAT THE COUNTY RECEIVES FROM PUBLIC SERVICE COMPANIES, UH, LIKE RAILROAD COMPANIES AND TELEPHONE COMPANIES. SO BECAUSE WE NOW DO REASSESSMENTS EVERY OTHER YEAR, WE ARE GETTING HIGHER AMOUNTS OF PUBLIC SERVICE. SO THAT 5.6 MAY INCREASE SLIGHTLY. MM-HMM. . SO THAT'S PROJECTED, SINCE WE'RE DOING THE TWO YEAR, IT IS QUITE A RELIEF FROM 2.5. 2.5 IS TWO THREE. YEAH. AND THAT WAS THE SECOND TO LAST YEAR THAT THE REASSESSMENT TOOK PLACE. SO THAT WAS GONNA BE THE LOWEST AMOUNT POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD HAVE RECEIVED FROM PUBLIC SERVICE. THE LAST HIGH AMOUNT THAT WE GOT WAS ABOUT $7 MILLION IN 2020, AND THAT WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT IT WAS AFFECTED BY THE REASSESSMENTS. SO, UM, I'M LOOKING AT ON PAGE NINE OF NINE, UM, AND, UH, THE USE OF FUND BALANCE FROM PRI, UH, PRIOR YEAR. YES. A $3.6 MILLION THAT WAS TRANSFERRED IN THIS FISCAL YEAR. YEAH, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA LOOK INTO THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS PROPOSED, UM, TO SUPPLEMENT THE BUDGET FOR 24. IDEALLY, IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD WANT TO RECOMMEND. UM, LIKE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, IT'S NOT THAT COLD HARD CASH. MM-HMM. , IT'S THE FUND BALANCE. AND YOU'VE HEARD THROUGH OUR DEBT CONSULTANTS THAT THE COUNTY HAS SUFFICIENT FUND BALANCE, BUT ON A DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE A, WE HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH CASH FLOW TO PAY THE BILLS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE REVENUE. HOW IT, IT, IT, IT'S SPORADIC WHEN WE GET THAT CASH RIGHT. TWICE A YEAR. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. SO, SO THE THREE, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE, WE'RE NOT GONNA TRANSFER ANYTHING TO HELP SUPPLEMENT OFFSET THE BUDGET REQUESTS. WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING AT THIS TIME WE DO THAT. OKAY. SO THAT'S ONE OF, THAT'S A MAIN COMPONENT AND WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS IS WE'RE NOT DIPPING INTO OUR RESERVE. EXACTLY. YEAH. THAT, WHICH MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. SO ACT OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. NOPE. OKAY. CAN YOU, UH, TURN TO PAGE FIVE, THE REIMBURSEMENT 1 45 OR 25? UH, THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S THE REIMBURSEMENT THAT THE COUNTY RECEIVES, UH, FROM THE TOWN FOR THE DEBT SERVICE. AND IT'S BEEN TAKING PLACE. IT HAS BEEN HAPPENING. WE HAVEN'T BILLED FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, BUT AS SOON AS WE BILLED THIS YEAR FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, THE TOWN PAID THE COUNTY. SO IT IS, UM, IF WE BILL THEM, THEY WILL PAY. SO WELL, OKAY. UM, WHY WOULDN'T WE HAVE BILLED THEM? IT WASN'T DONE. IT WAS A TASK THAT WAS NOT DONE THAT, THAT WE WERE DOING. CORRECT. YEAH. SO THE EDA WAS DOING IT BEFORE, AND NOW THE COUNTY, UH, FINANCE OFFICE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING THAT. SO THE FY 24 AMENDED, THEN THE FY 24 ACTUAL, SO WE ACTUALLY DID GET THAT. WE ACTUALLY DID GET THAT REVENUE FROM SPECIFICALLY THE TOWN FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT. SO WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE BASIS OF DROPPING FROM 4 41 4 5? [00:50:01] UH, THAT'S THE LAST THREE YEARS AS OPPOSED TO JUST ONE YEAR OF REVENUE. FIVE. OH, I SEE. OKAY. WHY IS IT IN BOLD GREEN? 'CAUSE IT'S A CHANGE THAT WAS MADE SINCE THE LAST REVENUE, UM, PROJECTION, BASICALLY. OKAY. WE'RE TRYING NOT TO CONFUSE OURSELVES OR YOU BY CHANGING COLORS SO THAT YOU CAN SEE CHANGES. CHANGES. I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU'RE JUST GETTING READY FOR . RIGHT. , SO THIS, THIS LOOKS LIKE A DROP IN REVENUE OF 5.7 MILLION. THAT IS CORRECT. THE 5% IN PERSONAL PROPERTY. UM, I THINK IT'S, AND, AND THAT'S 1.5. AND, AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE MANAGEMENT DECISION OF NOT DIPPING INTO A REVENUE TO OFFSET THE BUDGET. THAT'S ONE A PIECE OF IT, I SHOULD SAY. THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S THE SECOND PIECE OF IT. THE FIRST PIECE WOULD BE, YEAH, THE VALUATIONS HAVE DROPPED FOR BOTH PERSONAL PROPERTY AND REAL ESTATE. CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S A PROJECTION. YEAH. AND WELL, OR OR IT'S NOT JUST A PROJECTION AND YOU ALREADY HAVE APPRAISALS. WE HAVE A DRAFT. YEAH, WE HAVE A DRAFT. WE HAVE, IT SHOWS THAT, YEAH, FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE, WE HAVE A DRAFT EDIT, UH, WHICH THE COMMISSIONER RUNS FROM HER BOOKS FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR WITH THE ADJUSTMENTS OF THE, UM, SORRY, THE VETERANS AND, UM, SENIORS. WHY CAN'T I THINK OF IT RIGHT NOW? SENIORS. SENIORS. THANK YOU. . UH, SO THAT IS, THAT IS INCLUDED YEAH. IN THAT PREDICTION. OKAY, SIR. PERSONAL PROPERTY, BOTH PERSONAL PROPERTY, PERSONAL PROPERTY DROPPED 5%. THAT'S AN ESTIMATION BASED OFF OF JD POWER, WHO PROVIDES OUR COUNTY, UH, VEHICLE VALUATIONS. SO WE JUST TOOK FY 20 FOURS NUMBER AND, AND REMOVED 5% OF THAT. SO THAT WAS KIND OF AN, AN EASIER ONE TO, TO ESTIMATE, BUT WE JUST DID, UM, I THINK IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, WE ARE GONNA GET A LITTLE MORE ACCURATE NUMBER ON WHAT THE PERSONAL PROPERTY VALUATIONS ARE. SO THAT NUMBER IS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSER TO WHAT THE VALUATION IS. MM-HMM. . SO I THINK THE FLIP SIDE IS ANYONE WHO BOUGHT A NEW CAR, NEW CAR PRICES ARE THROUGH THE ROOF THESE DAYS, SO MAYBE THAT WILL HELP A LITTLE. MAYBE WELL BILL, UM, RECEIVABLES, WHAT'S THE BASIS OF EVERYTHING? DELINQUENT RECEIVABLES. SO THE DELINQUENTS ARE BASED ON PRIOR YEARS. IF YOU PULL OVER HERE AND YOU LOOK AT FY 2003, 2023. YES, SIR. OVER HERE ABOUT SECOND COLUMN IN YEAH. AND THAT WAS 608. AND SO WE ANTICIPATED THAT WE WILL RECEIVE 500 THIS NEXT YEAR. THAT'S FROM PRIOR YEARS THAT PEOPLE HAVE NOT PAID YET. UH, THE PENALTY AND INTEREST IS TYPICAL TO PRIOR YEARS, BUT WE HADN'T PUT THE PRIOR YEAR AMOUNT IN THERE OF THE ACTUAL TAX PER SE. AND WE'LL BE WORKING ON THAT SOME MORE, BUT WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH AN INITIAL 500,000 I SORRY, I OH, GO AHEAD. NO, GO AHEAD. UM, I'M LOOKING UNDERNEATH THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, AND SO YOU'RE ON PAGE, OH, I'M SO SORRY. PAGE NINE, NINE OF PAGE NINE. PAGE NINE OF NINE. SO I SEE JUST, JUST A, A STRAIGHT LINE AND IT DOESN'T, THERE'S NOT A CATEGORY, IF YOU WILL, OF $2.6 MILLION. NOW, IS THAT THE MONEY WE SET ASIDE FOR THE BROADBAND? THE 2.6 MILLION? NO. WHERE ARE YOU LOOKING? I'M RIGHT HERE, HUN. SEE, IT'S, IT'S BLANK. IT'S, YEAH, THERE'S NOTHING THERE. AND THEN IT JUST COMES DOWN TO THE YEAH, THIS IS WHERE, THAT'S NOT FROM THE BRONX PAGE. OKAY. SO YEAH, IT'S NOT RE AMERICAN RESCUE. OKAY. THAT'S A CARRY OVER FROM THE PREVIOUS PAGE. IT'S THE TOTAL FOR ALL FEDERAL FUND. OKAY. SO IF YOU GO BACK TO THE QUESTION ABOUT THE BROADBAND MONEY. YEAH. THE BROADBAND MONEY SHOWS UP ON PAGE NINE UNDER AMERICAN RESCUE IN 23, THIS 7 8 0 3. [00:55:01] OKAY. AND THEN 3 9 5. OH, WE DON'T KEEP THE REVENUES. I CANNOT TELL YOU WHY YOU WOULD HAVE MORE MONEY IN JANUARY THAN YOU WOULD FOR THE ACTUAL YEAR. THAT WILL BE A QUESTION FOR YOUR MEETINGS NEXT WEEK, MA'AM. THAT'S TO HOW THAT WORKS. BUT THAT 7 8 0 3 IS THE TOTAL THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. OKAY. THE CONTRACT WITH THE REGIONAL COMMISSION, OUR SHARE IS 6,900,000. AND THEN WE HAVE HAD ABOUT 900,000 REMAINING IN THERE THAT WE HAVE BEEN USING IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS ON SMALLER, LIKE $200,000 PROJECTS. UH, LAST YEAR WE PAID THE, UM, CHESTER GAP, UH, CONTRACT OUT OF THERE, AND WE'VE DONE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS WITH IT. UH, WE'VE GOT, WE THINK WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT LEFT THERE. WE'RE NOT TOTALLY CLOSED OUT, BUT NOT VERY MUCH. RIGHT. UM, WE HAVE PAID TO THE REGIONAL COMMISSION WITH THE CURRENT PAYMENT THAT IS DUE THIS MONTH, WE WILL HAVE PAID ABOUT 4.2 MILLION. THAT SOUNDS RIGHT. YEAH. AND WE WILL OWE THE REMAINDER, UH, THE MONEY IS INVESTED BY THE COMMISSION AND WE ARE GETTING, HAVE BEEN GETTING 5%. THE MARKET'S CHANGING A LITTLE BIT, SO IT MAY GO BACK CLOSER TO FOUR, BUT WE HAVE IT INVESTED THERE. THEY HAVE NOT PAID ANY OF OUR MONEY TO, UH, ALL POINTS BROADBAND. BECAUSE ALL POINTS BROADBAND HASN'T DONE ANY WORK UP HERE. RIGHT. AND THEY HAVE TO BILL FOR EACH JURISDICTION SEPARATELY. OKAY. SO THAT MONEY, OH, I'M JUST TRYING TO ANALYZE. MM-HMM, THE BOTTOM LINE, THAT'S ALL. SO, YEP. SO THAT MONEY IS NOT PART OF THE $5.7 MILLION, WHAT? 5.7? UH, AT THE BOTTOM LINE OF TOTAL REVENUE. OH, YEAH. THE, THE OVERRUN IS SEVEN $5.7 MILLION. THAT'S, THAT'S OUR, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 24 AND 25. EXACTLY. SO THAT'S HOW MUCH THAT'S THE SHORTAGE AND YES, IT DOES SHOW, EXCEPT IT WAS IN 23 RATHER THAN 24. 24 HAD 50,000. RIGHT. SO I I WHERE I'M TRYING TO GET AT THE REMAINING ARPA MONEY MM-HMM. IS NOT PART OF THIS REVENUE FOR NEXT YEAR, CORRECT? CORRECT. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW. YES. OKAY. CORRECT. OR IT WOULD'VE BEEN MORE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT SPENDING THAT MONEY . OKAY. WHAT, WHERE, WHAT'S THE USE OF FUND BALANCE? USE OF FUND BALANCE IS WHEN THE BOARD TAKES MONEY FROM RESERVES. UH, THE BOARD HAS TRADITIONALLY HAD 15%, UM, WHICH IS WHAT IS IN YOUR FINANCIAL GUIDELINES AS YOUR POLICY, UH, ON THE LITTLE CHART THAT, UH, CHAIR HAS SHOWN YOU, YOU HAVE ABOUT $40 MILLION SOMEWHERE BE DEPENDING UPON WHAT MONTH IT IS. YOU HAVE BETWEEN 30 AND 40 MILLION OF THAT, APPROXIMATELY 15 MILLION IS YOUR INVESTMENT. AND I'M NOT LOOKING AT ANY SHEETS, SO MY NUMBERS NOT EXACT. IT MAY BE 16 OR 17, BUT THAT MONEY IS YOUR RESERVE UNDEDICATED BALANCE UNRESTRICTED. AND IN DIFFERENT YEARS YOU HAVE TAKEN MONEY FROM THERE. UH, THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS YOU HAVE BUDGETED THAT WE HAVE NOT TAKEN ANY, A YEAR AGO THE BOARD HAD ONE AND A HALF MILLION IN THERE, BUT INSTEAD THE AUDITOR SAID YOU WERE ALMOST A MILLION AND A HALF REVENUES [01:00:01] OVER EXPENDITURES. SO YOU INCREASE THAT BALANCE. UH, WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE AT THIS POINT THAT WE WILL USE THE TRANSFER THIS YEAR, BUT IT IS THERE AND THERE IS NO PROJECTION OF A TRANSFER NEXT YEAR WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE END OF THE BUDGET AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT $200,000 IN A HUNDRED MILLION, YOU MAY PUT 200 DECIDE TO PUT 200 IN THERE AS A TRANSFER. TODAY WE ARE NOT. BUT IN FOR FISCAL YEAR 24, WE ACTUALLY TAPPED THAT FOR 3.6 MILLION. WE HAVE NOT TAPPED IT YET. 20 24 0 0. OKAY. YEAH, WE, THAT WAS THE FUND BALANCE PROJECTED. OKAY. WELL, THAT MEANS REALLY IN EFFECT THAT THAT LINE ITEM DOESN'T REALLY CON SHOULDN'T BE COUNTING. OKAY. I MEAN, YOU, YOU, WAS IT BUDGETED? YES, IT WAS BUDGETED BECAUSE THAT WAS PART OF THE BALANCING THE BUDGET AGAINST THE EXPENDITURES. AND WE HAVE NOT NEEDED, WE HAVE NOT NEEDED IT. THE YEAR'S NOT OVER EITHER. RIGHT. WE HAVE SEVERAL MONTHS TOGETHER, SO THAT'S RIGHT. JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT THE 3.68 MILLION THEY BUDGETED TO TAKE THAT AS A TRANSFER, BUT SO FAR IT HASN'T HAPPENED. CORRECT. AND HOPEFULLY IT WON'T HAPPEN. CORRECT. UM, BUT THAT'S THE PORTION THEY WERE GONNA TAKE OUT OF HOW MUCH IS THE TOTAL FUND BALANCE? AGAIN, I KNOW YOU THERE NEEDS TO BE A CERTAIN RESERVE PERCENTAGE FOR MANY REASONS, BUT WHAT IS THE TOTAL AT THIS POINT, IF IT'S BEEN ACCUMULATING A LITTLE BIT, IF, WELL, WE HAVEN'T TAKEN ANY YET, AND WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE TAKING ANY, IF, IF WE SPENT, IF WE SPENT EVERYTHING IN THE BUDGET, ALL THE EXPENDITURES THAT THE BOARD HAS APPROVED, THEN WE WOULD GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE REVENUES AND IF THE REVENUES WERE SHORT IN ANY, ANY OF THESE CATEGORIES IN THE NINE PAGES MM-HMM. , WE WOULD TAKE THAT AMOUNT FROM THE RESERVE AT THIS POINT. NUMBER ONE, THE GOAL IS TO BE UNDER 95% OF EXPENDITURES AND NUMBER TWO, TO LEAVE THAT INTACT AND NOT TAKE ANY OF IT. OKAY. BUT YEAR OVER YEAR, OVER YEAR, IS THAT LEVEL, IS THAT ESSENTIALLY LEVEL OR ESSENTIALLY LEVEL? YES, SIR. OKAY. IF YOU GO BACK AND YOU LOOK THE LAST 3, 4, 5 YEARS, YOUR BALANCE HAS BEEN, THE LOW IN THE YEARLY CYCLE IS APPROXIMATELY 30 MILLION. THE HIGH IS 40 MILLION. AND THE TWO HIGHS ARE AT TAX SPHERE TIME. AND THE LOWS ARE THE MONTH BEFORE TAX TIME. , PARTICULARLY IN THE SPRING WHEN YOU DRAW DOWN THE SCHOOL FUNDS, UH, THE SCHOOLS, YOU ALLOCATE 28 MILLION IN HERE, 28.6, THEY'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL FIVE AND WHATEVER THEY, YOU ALLOCATE TO THEM, THEY SPEND THEIR FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDS FIRST, AND THEN THEY DRAW ON THE LOCAL MONEY SO THAT THE LOCAL MONEY IS WHAT IS REMAINS IN THE COUNTY TREASURY. AND THEN THEY HAVE TO COME TO YOU TO ASK IF THEY CAN CARRY IT OVER AND RESERVE IT FOR A PROJECT, USED IT ON THE BUSES, USED IT ON LFK, THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS. UH, USING IT OVER AT E WILSON. I'M NOT, I'M GONNA STOP SAYING MY LAST QUESTION. I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT ANYMORE. . UM, SO I KNOW WE, UH, I ASKED THIS QUESTION LAST TIME WE MET, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S STILL TRUE THAT THIS BUDGET INCLUDES ALL OUR COMMITTED, UM, EXPENSES. RIGHT? SO YOU COVERED NO, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ENC CONVERT EXPENSES. OH, IT'S, IT'S NOT, NO. OKAY. NOT THE REVENUE. NOT THIS REVENUE. OKAY. BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, A TANKER RIGHT? WE ONLY PAID A PERCENTAGE, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME UP WITH A LUMP SUM OF $500,000. IS THAT 500 APPROXIMATELY? APPROXIMATELY. APPROXIMATELY. SO IS THAT $500,000 IN THE EXPENSES OR OR IS IT, ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO TRANSFER IT? IT'S WITHIN ITS OWN FUND. SO IT'S SEPARATE FROM THE GENERAL FUND. OKAY. UM, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY IN THE ASSET REPLACEMENT FUND, WE WOULD NEED TO FIND OUT WHERE THE REVENUE WOULD COME FROM. OKAY. SO IT'S ACCOUNTABLE. IT'S ACCOUNTABLE IN THE ASSET REPLACEMENT. IT IS PERFECT. YES. OKAY. [01:05:01] THANK YOU. YEP. AND I'LL EMAIL THAT TO YOU TOMORROW. OKAY. TO EVERYONE TOMORROW. ANY QUESTIONS ON IT? I'M SORRY. NO, I WAS JUST GONNA REMIND EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. UM, AND SO WE'RE NOT INTENDING TO DO A TRANSFER USE OF OUR BALANCE AS OF MARCH 14TH, SIR. YEAH. OKAY. WHEN, WHEN WE, WHEN WE REACH JUNE TH JUNE 29TH, THE BOARD MAY SAY, YEAH, WE HAVE THE RES THE RESERVE THERE, AND WE WANT TO TAKE THIS AMOUNT OUT OF THERE. BUT AS OF PREPARING THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET, WE ARE PREPARING WITHOUT ANY TRANSFERS. AND THEN WE HAVE AN ISSUE. WE BASICALLY HAVE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERMS, COUNCIL PAYABLE SITTING OUT THERE AGAINST THAT. WE DO. YES. YEAH. SO IT'S, IT'S NOT LITERALLY, YEAH. I MEAN IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THERE, BUT, BUT THERE'S STUFF WE MM-HMM. THERE ARE FOR, TO BE USED THINGS TO BE DONE. SO IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S BEST NOT TO GO THERE. MM-HMM. , THAT'S THE INTENTION IS TO NOT GO THERE. YEAH. THAT'S THE INTENTION IS TO LEAVE THAT, UH, IT'S BEEN CIRCLING AROUND THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, ABOUT 18 MILLION. AND THE INTENTION IS TO LEAVE THAT THERE WHEN YOU GET, WHEN YOU GET THE AUDIT, YOU'LL HAVE A BETTER PICTURE OF THAT. WELL, IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE A BIG POCKET FULL OF CASH, BUT YOU STILL OWE A LOT OF MONEY ON YOUR CAR. YEP. I MEAN, IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE CASH, BUT YOU, IT'S REALLY, YOU HAVE DEBT TOO. YOU HAVE OPERATIONS. , IT'S LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BIG WATER CASH, LIKE YOU SAY THERE, BUT THEY HAVEN'T PAID FOR THEIR HOUSE YET. YEAH. . ENCUMBER, THAT'S RIGHT. YES, MA'AM. OKAY, SO WE'RE DONE WITH REVENUES. OKAY. IF, IF YOU COULD, UM, AT SOME POINT CHECK, UH, FOR THE REAL ESTATE, HOW MUCH OF THAT 33 IS, IS COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL AND, AND THEN JAY'S QUESTION, WHAT IS THE MEDIA AND HOUSE VALUE? YES, THANKS. YEP. , WHAT WOULD REALLY BE INTERESTING, I THINK, SIR, IS FOR YOU TO SEE IF THEY COULD DO IT, TO BREAK YOUR HOUSING INTO TWO OR THREE CATEGORIES, UH, PERHAPS, UH, LESS. AND I'M GONNA PICK AN ARBITRARY NUMBER OF, UH, 250,000, UH, YOUR HOUSING, UH, UP TO, UM, 600 AND MAYBE THEN YOUR HOUSING OVER THAT MIGHT GIVE YOU AS MUCH INSIGHT INTO WHAT YOUR MARKET, WHAT YOUR HOUSING IS AS JUST THE AVERAGE THERE, IF THEY CAN DO THAT. SO, I'M SORRY. WELL, CAN WE RECAP WITH THE TOP SHEET NOW? I MEAN WITH, WITH THE, WITH THE, WHAT WE'VE JUST GONE THROUGH, OUR GAP HAS, HAS GONE FROM 5.3 DIFFERENCE NUMBER TOP. YES. SO, UH, BEFORE ROUND ONE, THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE 18 MILLION. AFTER ROUND ONE IT WOULD BE 5.4 MILLION. OKAY. SAY THAT AGAIN. UH, BEFORE THE ROUND ONE, BEFORE ALL OF THE REVISIONS WERE MADE, WE WERE 18 MILLION DIFFERENT, AND NOW WE ARE 5.4 MILLION. NOW BEFORE, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT COLUMN ONE, THE REVENUES AND COLUMN THREE EXPENDITURES, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO COLUMNS IS GOING TO BE THE 23 MILLION THAT WE WERE SEPARATE BEFORE. THE 5.385 IS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TOP IN THE OPERATING BUDGET ITSELF BETWEEN THE 96 3 6 5 AND THE 99 8 0 OH, THERE'S OH 99 0 90. OKAY. YEAH. NINE ZERO. I'M SORRY IF I'M NOT CLEAR THERE. UM, THEN THESE OTHER [01:10:01] ITEMS, OKAY, I JUST ONE SECOND. UNDER REVISION, THAT NUMBER IS THE SAME AS THE NUMBERS OF LEFT. SO IS IT, IS THIS UP PAPER? YES. THERE WERE CHANGES TO, SO THE POSITIONS, YOU'LL SEE THE FIRST COLUMN WAS A HUNDRED OR 1.4 MILLION. SO THAT'S A ROLL THAT'S ROLL UP. SO THESE ITEMS BELOW OPERATING THE TOP LINE IS THE OPERATING BUDGET THAT YOU HAVE GOTTEN FROM EACH DEPARTMENT. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THEY CAME IN AND PRESENTED. AND THEN THEY TALKED ABOUT WHAT THEY WANTED FOR POSITIONS, WHAT THEY WANTED IN CAPITAL, WHAT THEY WANTED IN ASSETS, ET CETERA. THOSE HAVE BEEN ADDED IN THESE OTHER COLUMNS. AND ALL OF THESE ITEMS HERE HAVE NO REVENUE WITH THEM. SO WHEN THEY ARE ADDED UP, THE TOTAL IS 23 MILLION. WHAT WE DID TONIGHT WAS TAKE 5 MILLION OUT OF THAT. SO THE NET DOWN HERE IN THE CORNER THAT WE STILL ARE WORKING ON IS 18. THAT INCLUDES 5.7 ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO THE SCHOOLS. UM, REGARDING THE REVENUE NUMBER ON THE, IN THE BOX SPREADSHEET, THE, WE'VE GOT THAT 90.98 MILLION, BUT ON THE REVENUE PACKET IN YELLOW ON THE LAST PAGE, IT'S 89.9. SO IT'S ROUGHLY A MILLION DIFFERENCE. SO WHICH IS THE, THE RIGHT NUMBER? I'M GONNA ASSUME THE, THIS ONE IS BECAUSE THIS ONE WAS DONE AFTER THIS AND THIS WAS DONE BASED ON THE EARLIER VERSION. OKAY. OKAY. SO OUR DEFICIT OF 18.33 MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A DEFICIT OF 19 POINT SOMETHING APPROXIMATELY. YES, SIR. OKAY. ALRIGHT. IS THAT MAKE SENSE? OKAY. UM, LOOKING AT THE PARTNER AGENCIES, I HAD THIS, IT DOESN'T WANT TO PRINT, SO I'M JUST GONNA HAVE TO SEND IT TO YOU TOMORROW. IS THAT, SEND IT BACK. UH, WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITH THOSE AGENCIES IS WE HAVE LEVEL FUNDED, UH, DID NOT ADD ANY NEW AGENCIES RECOMMENDED AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS BACK NEAR THE BOTTOM OF THE BACKSIDE OF YOUR PAGE. ON THE FLIP SIDE, IF YOU JUST FLIP IT OVER, ALL RIGHT. WHEN YOU SEE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WE ALLOWED THEM TO CARRY FORWARD $96,000. SO WE HAVE INCLUDED THAT IN THEIR BASE AND MADE THEIR BASE 470 AS OPPOSED TO THE 4 88 THEY'RE ASKING FOR. IS THAT THE, UH, THIRD FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE SHEET? MM-HMM. SHOULD BE WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT. MM-HMM. . UM, THE OTHERS ARE PRETTY, UH, PRETTY MUCH IF THEY'RE A NEW AGENCY, I'VE TAKEN THEM OUT. I DID NOT FUND THEM. UH, THE EXISTING AGENCIES WERE LEVEL FUNDED, REDUCED A BIT THE, UM, NORTHWESTERN COMMUNITY SERVICES BECAUSE OF THE FOCUS ON THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF CLIENTS PER CAPITA, ALL THIS THAT ARE BEING SERVED. OKAY. BUT WE'LL HAVE THAT, WE WILL SEND THAT TO YOU TOMORROW, BUT THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL SEE THE DIFFERENCES SO THAT YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. UM, THEN YOU HAVE, UH, THE LAST PAGE THAT ZACH JUST GAVE YOU VIEW IS TWO PAGES CLIP TOGETHER THAT ARE THE LINE DEPARTMENT ITEMS TOTALS. AND SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS AND SEE HOW MUCH EACH DEPARTMENT IS UP OR DOWN IN THEIR REQUEST, AND THEN KNOW WHERE YOU WANNA FOCUS YOUR EFFORTS AS YOU GO BACK TO LOOK AT THIS. UM, YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE, ALYSSA? I DO. I SURE, I SURE DO. [01:15:01] UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE TO THIS. UM, I NEED TO LOOK AT THAT ONLINE. I WANTED TO POINT OUT TOP RIGHT, THERE'S A NOTE. IT SAYS BEFORE MOVING ALL VRSA LINES TO NON-DEPARTMENTAL INCLUDES HEALTH INSURANCE, WORKERS' COMP AND LIABILITY INSURANCE. PREVIOUSLY, THE COUNTY HAD BUDGETED FOR THOSE CATEGORIES WITHIN EACH DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET. IT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO MANAGE WHAT EXACTLY THE INCREASE WOULD BE, UM, FOR BUDGETING FOR THE NEXT UPCOMING YEAR. SO RATHER THAN INCLUDE THAT BUDGET INTO EACH INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET, WE HAVE COLLECTIVELY PUT IT INTO NON-DEPARTMENTAL. SO I WANNA POINT OUT THAT WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH HERE, ESSENTIALLY THIS HAS BEEN BUDGETED TWICE. SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE NUMBER. SO YOU CAN COMPARE THE FY 24 TO FY 25 FOR EXPENDITURES ONLY. SO WHEN YOU GO THROUGH AND SEE THAT DIFFERENCE, THAT'S GONNA BE A TRUE INDICATION OF WHAT THE INCREASES ARE FOR 25. AND NOW WE HAVE IN CLEAR GOV MOVED ALL OF THE EXPENDITURES FOR WORKERS' COMP LIABILITY, UH, AND HEALTH INSURANCE INTO NON-DEPARTMENTAL. SO IF YOU SEE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT'S HERE AND WHAT'S IN CLEAR GOV, THE PURPOSE OF THIS DOCUMENT IS TO SHOW YOU THE PERCENTAGE INCREASES FROM 24 TO 25 HAVING ALREADY MOVED, SHIFTED THOSE OR PRE-SHIFT. YEAH, THIS WAS PRE, THIS IS PRE-SHIFT PRESHIFT. OKAY. PRE-SHIFT. ALRIGHT. UM, AND THEN POST-SHIFT WOULD BE YOUR, YOUR CLEAR GOV. CAN YOU THAT UP BECAUSE FIRST ONE THIS? SURE. YEAH, I'D BE HAPPY TO. WE ACTUALLY ALREADY HAVE THAT READY. UH, WE'LL JUST GET THAT TO YOU FIRST THING TOMORROW. SO THIS INCLUDES YOUR TRANSFER TO SOCIAL SERVICES IS YOUR TRANSFER TO SCHOOLS. AND MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO TAKE OUT, OUT THE TRANSFER TO LAW LIBRARY TOO, BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE A LAW LIBRARY FUND THAT WE'RE TRULY BUDGETING FOR AND RECOGNIZING, UH, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER UP IN THE MISCELLANEOUS CATEGORY, YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKOUT OF WHAT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UH, INSURANCE COSTS. SO YOU SEE THE HEALTH INSURANCE. WE JUST MET WITH OUR HEALTHCARE CONSULTANT TODAY, AND WE'LL BE PRESENTING THE BOARD WITH TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 25. THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO NEGOTIATE LESS OF A HIT, UM, MAXIMUM. I THINK IT WAS 14.5%. SO THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THAT DOWN. WHERE ARE WE? OH, I'M SORRY. UH, MISCELLANEOUS IN THE, ON THE SECOND PAGE, PAGE BOTTOM OF PAGE TWO, SIR. OKAY. SO THAT, THAT INCLUDES THE HIGHER OF THE TWO PROPOSALS TO HAVE A PLACEHOLDER FOR HEALTH INSURANCE. IS WHEN YOU SAY THAT, IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES? NO, OR JUST TWO DIFFERENT, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT HEALTH PLANS. UM, AND THE RATES WHEN THEY CAME BACK FOR, SO WE HAVE ONE THAT IS A LOWER DEDUCTIBLE AND ONE THAT'S A HIGHER DEDUCTIBLE. UM, THE PERCENT INCREASE FOR THOSE PLANS WAS ONE WAS A 12% AND THE OTHER, UH, 14.5%. AND THAT'S AN INITIAL, UM, RATE PROPOSAL FROM THE INSURANCE COMPANY. OUR BROKERS ARE GOING BACK TO THEM IN ORDER TO NEGOTIATE IT. UM, LAST YEAR, I THINK INITIALLY, UM, WE WERE QUOTED A 13% INCREASE AND WE ENDED UP WITH A 8%. SO WE ARE HOPING THAT THEY CAN GET A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION, UM, IN OUR RATES. SO WHAT, UH, SORRY IF I MISSED, BUT WHAT IS THIS NON-DEPARTMENTAL DELTA ALL ABOUT? NON-DEPARTMENTAL IS, UM, A DEPARTMENT BUDGET THAT'S SET UP SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT APPLIES TO THE WHOLE COUNTY AND NOT JUST ONE DEPARTMENT. SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE A CATCHALL WHERE YOU CAN BUDGET FOR EVERYTHING THAT APPLIES TO THE WHOLE COUNTY. COUNTY WISE. THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT WILL GO THROUGH ON A QUARTERLY BASIS AND RECONCILE THAT. BUT IT APPLIES TO HEALTH INSURANCE, IT APPLIES TO YOUR DEBT, UH, ANY OTHER MISCELLANEOUS EXPENSES THAT IS COUNTYWIDE. OKAY. AND SO WHAT WAS THE BASIS FOR 124% INCREASE? THE INCREASE IS WE'D NEVER BUDGETED FOR, UH, VERSA FOR LIABILITY WORKERS' COMP AND HEALTH INSURANCE IN THIS DEPARTMENT. WE, WE BUDGETED IT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE GENERAL FUND. SO THIS IS LIKE A ONE. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE YOU REMOVED IT AWAY FROM INDIVIDUALS? EXACTLY. OKAY. SO THESE, WE ALL TALK ABOUT PRE, [01:20:01] PRE SHIFT. UM, WE HAVE ONE DOCUMENT WHERE I EXPENSES WERE PRE-SHIFT BEFORE YOU MOVED THEM OUT. ARE THEY? YES. THE DEPARTMENT BUDGETS ARE PRE-SHIFT, SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE THIS BUDGETED TWICE. OH, OKAY. YOU DID SAY THAT. OKAY. I, I, NOW I SEE WHERE, WHERE THAT WAS. YEAH, IT'S, I'M SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE BUDGETED MORE ACCURATELY THIS YEAR. OKAY. HOWEVER, THAT MEANS THIS, THIS BOTTOM LINE IS NOT REALLY, IT IS NOT TO BE CONSIDERED. YEAH. SO AS IN CONCLUSION, THAT BOTTOM NUMBER IS NOT THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR EXPENSES BECAUSE IT IN FACT DOESN'T MATCH, UH, THIS, THIS NUMBER. THAT'S RIGHT. RIGHT. OKAY. SO WE HAVE THIS, THE 96 NUMBER, WHICH SHOULD BE THIS 99 MINUS THAT 3.77. GOOD, THANKS. SO LOOKING AT THIS, AND I KNOW THIS IS AN ESTIMATE. MM-HMM. . SO WE'RE, UH, FOR SCHOOLS, WE JUST HAVE THE 28 MILLION AS A PLACEHOLDER. EXACTLY. FROM LAST YEAR'S REQUEST FROM LAST YEAR. AND YOU WERE SAYING THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT 5 MILLION MORE. 5.7, MA'AM. SOMEWHERE BETWEEN, AND I DON'T WANT TO QUOTE SCHOOL, I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR SCHOOLS. WHEN THEY PRESENTED LAST FRIDAY, THEY HAD A LOW NUMBER OF 4.1 MILLION AND A HIGH NUMBER OF 5.7. OKAY. SO WE HAVE THE HIGH NUMBER IN HERE. THEY'LL GIVE YOU A NUMBER ON TUESDAY, BUT THAT MAY STILL BE SUBJECT TO CHANGE DEPENDING UPON WHEN THE LEGISLATURE, UH MM-HMM. , NO LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS SAFE WHEN THE LEGISLATURE IS IN SESSION. . AND, UM, LOOKING AT THIS YEAR IN PERFORMANCE, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF DID A QUICK, UH, A QUICK LOOK WHERE, AND AGAIN, I'VE HAD SAID THIS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THAT I, WHEN I LOOK AT PERFORMANCE, UM, FACTORS THAT I CONSIDER ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS AS A LEVEL OF EFFORT, SO I LOOK AT, IT'S JUST WHEN YOU, UM, DO YOUR PROJECTIONS, YOUR BUDGET PRO, UM, PROJECTIONS, IT'S, YOU KNOW, GOES UP. SO AS OF JANUARY, WE SHOULD HAVE EXPENDED AT LEAST 60% OF THEIR, OF THEIR BUDGET. MM-HMM. THE DEPARTMENTS. AND I'M LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, ONE WENT, WE'RE RUNNING OVER, THE OTHER ONE'S DOWN TO 54%, ANOTHER DEPARTMENT IS DOWN 52%. SO TO ME THERE, YOU KNOW, AND IT COULD BE A LOT OF REASONS TO THIS, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER BIGGEST EXPENDITURE THAT'S GONNA BE THE THIRD QUARTER OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. SO WOULD IT BE, UM, AND I'LL LEAVE, LEAVE THIS UP TO DR. DALEY, HOW YOU WANNA DO IT. I MEAN, I CAN SIT DOWN AND DO THIS TO MYSELF JUST TO GET AN IDEA. UM, OR, YOU KNOW, IF YOUR DEPARTMENT CAN DO IT AND SHARE IT WITH THE BOARD, OR LIKE I SAID, I CAN DO IT AND SHARE IT WITH THE BOARD. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO. BECAUSE, UM, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT NEXT YEAR AND THE NEW BUDGETS AND X, Y, Z, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WE ANTICIPATE OF NOT SPENDING IT IN THIS YEAR. YOU KNOW, BY TIME YOU GO TO YOUR PROJECTIONS AND YOU'RE SITTING HERE GOING, WELL, HEY, YOU KNOW, IF I DO L LO, YOU KNOW, STRAIGHT LINE LOE, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, I GOT A MILLION DOLLARS LEFT OVER THAT HAS NOT BEEN SPENT, THAT WE COULD ROLL INTO NEXT YEAR TO HELP OFFSET. SO, UM, IT IT'S, AND THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION LAST YEAR. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S ANOTHER PROJECT MANAGEMENT TOOL, IF YOU WILL, IN ANALYZING THAT, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO USE TO ANALYZE THIS DATA. AND BECAUSE I WANNA LOOK AT THE, THE BIG PICTURE OF EVERYTHING. WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT, MA'AM? OH, I'M LOOKING AT YOUR, UM, EXPEND EXPENDITURES, YOU KNOW, SO MONTHLY EXPENDITURES? NO, I, I AM LOOKING AT THE FISCAL YEAR 24 AMENDED AMOUNT. AND THEN I LOOK AT FISCAL, FISCAL 24 ACTUALS THROUGH JANUARY. SO I JUST DIVIDE THAT BY THAT AND GIVES ME A PERCENTAGE AND WE SHOULD BE AT A 60%. AND IF I CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, TAKE, TAKE THE ACTUALS AND THEN DETERMINE THE MONTHLY RATE AND KIND OF SEE, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE END. SURE. SO I CAN DO IT AND SHARE IT WITH EVERYBODY. 'CAUSE THAT'S PART OF HOW I ANALYZE BUDGETS OR, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE BUSY. I, I DON'T WANNA [01:25:01] PUT MORE WORK ON YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW. SO ANOTHER SUGGESTION MIGHT BE TO TAKE THE MONTHLY REPORT THAT YOU GET, THE SECOND MEETING, UM, THE 19TH, THE MEETING, LIKE THE 19TH, YOU GET THE REPORT FOR FEBRUARY. OKAY. BUT IN FEBRUARY THE THIRD, AND IN THIRD TUESDAY IN FEBRUARY, YOU GET THE MONTHLY EXPENDITURE AND REVENUE REPORT FOR JANUARY. AND THAT'S GONNA HAVE A PERCENTAGE WITH IT. WE'LL PULL THAT OUT FOR YOU. YOU CAN SEE IT. WELL, I KNOW THE PERCENT I, YOU KNOW, I WANNA TAKE, TAKE THAT PER YEAH. BUT THEN I WANNA FORECAST IT TO THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR BASED ON THAT PERCENTAGE, JUST TO GET AN IDEA. IT'S CALLED AN ESTIMATE. ES CAPITAL E ESTIMATE. IT'S, IT'S AN ESTIMATE BECAUSE I, BECAUSE THERE'S UNKNOWNS THAT I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE A BID EXPENDITURE COMING UP OR WHATNOT, YOU KNOW, SO, SO I GUESS WE'RE, I, I GUESS TO, TO, UH, TO END MY, MY ASK IS I'LL WAIT UNTIL WE GET, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NEW REPORT. I WILL GO, GO AHEAD AND MAKE MY PROJECTIONS AND I'LL SHARE IT WITH THE BOARD. SO IF YOU WANNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PUTTING THAT IN YOUR EQUATION, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST IMAGINE I COULD JUST WHIP IT UP. IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. , THE, THE, THESE, UM, 2024 ACTUAL SAYS A DATE. IT SAYS JANUARY 20, 24. SO I PRESUME EVERY TIME YOU, EVERY MONTH. YEAH. OKAY. RIGHT. AND I WANTED TO, ON A TOTAL, TOTAL COUNTY BASIS, I GUESS. MM-HMM. THAT REPORT. RIGHT. OKAY. UM, THIS UP BECAUSE, OH, OKAY. OH, SO WE, I'M GONNA CUT YOU OFF THAT IT JUST REAL QUICKLY. THERE IS A PROJECTION TOOL IN CLEAR GOV. YEAH, I KNOW. SO IF YOU TAKE LOOK OVER IT, YOU'LL SEE THAT. YEAH. OKAY. , I'M GONNA PLAY WITH THAT. SOUNDS GOOD. SO BEFORE WE BRING, I JUST WANNA ASK YOU, UH, JOHN PAUL, GREAT MONTESSORI ACADEMY IS HAVING A FUNCTION OVER IT. UH, HAS ANYBODY ELSE RESPONDED? ADOBE EITHER? I PLAN TO GO AND I WAS YEP. I WAS INVITED AND SAID YES. YEP. ZACH HAS ADVERTISED THAT, OH, HE HAS. YOU COULD ALL GO AND TALK TO YOUR HEART'S CONTENT. YEP. ALSO, JUST FYI, I, UH, WAS ABLE, NOW THAT I'M NOT TRAVELING NEXT WEEK, I WAS ABLE TO GET INTO THE, UH, DISASTER EXERCISE ON WE NEXT WEDNESDAY. SO I, I'LL SEE SOMETHING. I THINK, VICKY, ARE YOU GOING? AND I KNOW IF CHERYL'S GOING, I NO, NO. OKAY. OKAY. AS WELL, ADVERTISE THAT AS WELL. OH, THEY SAID SOMETHING IN THE, IN THE COMMUNICATION ABOUT IT. NOT NEEDING TO BE, BUT YEAH. WELL, CHASE ALWAYS JUST TELLS US TO DO IT. SO WE JUST, WE'D RATHER BE SAFE. SAFE. JUST TO CLARIFY, EVEN THOUGH WE ADVERTISE MY UNDERSTANDING FROM MR. HAM, WE STILL CAN'T, WE'RE THERE AS OBSERVERS. THEY'RE NOT PARTICIPANTS. MY UNDERSTANDING IS IF WE ADVERTISE THAT YOU'LL BE THERE, THAT THREE OR MORE MAY BE THERE AND THEY MAY PARTICIPATE AND YOU'RE ALLOWED TO TALK. I'LL CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT THOUGH. YEP. OTHERWISE, IF I THINK THREE OF YOU COME TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING, IF YOU JUST SIT THERE, THAT'S OKAY. IF WE ADVERTISE, THEN YOU'RE ALLOWED TO TALK. WELL, I KNOW THAT, UH, UH, MADAM CHAIR WANTS TO END THIS MEETING, BUT I JUST WANNA THROW THIS OUT. UM, I HAD BRIEFLY TALKED TO JANE ABOUT IT. YEAH. LAST NIGHT AS A, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UM, A LOT OF THE REVENUE IS GOING INTO RESOURCES, RIGHT. PAYING FOR EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, UM, TO DO THE, THE JOB. IS THERE SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN BOX THAT REVENUE? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF VACANCIES OUT THERE AND WE'RE, AND WE'RE GIVING THE MONEY TO THE DEPARTMENTS TO FILL THOSE VACANCIES, BUT IF THE VACANCIES AREN'T FILLED, THEN SOME, SOME DEPARTMENTS COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, I DIDN'T FILL THIS VACANCY, SO I, I WANNA SPEND THIS MONEY ON THIS SOMETHING THAT I'M GONNA CALL OUTTA SCOPE. SO IF WE, YOU GUYS CAN GO TALK ABOUT IT. I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO. THIS IS ONLY AN IDEA AND A SUGGESTION. SO IF WE CAN SAY, OKAY, THE MONEY THAT WE ARE BUDGETING FOR RESOURCES ARE USED FOR RESOURCES. AND SO WHEN A DEPARTMENT COMES IN AND SAYS, WELL, I WANNA DO X, Y, Z, AND I HAVE THIS MONEY BECAUSE I DIDN'T FILL THIS POSITION, THEN TO ME, THAT POSITION SHOULD, THAT MONEY SHOULD GO BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND. IT'S A SUGGESTION. IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I AGREE. YOU KNOW, IT JUST, YOU'RE, YOU DO THAT ANYWAY BY, [01:30:01] BY A MATTER OF COURSE. WHEN PEOPLE COME IN LATE IN THE, IN THE FISCAL YEAR AND SAYING, HEY, CAN I, YEAH, YEAH, THEY DO. SO YOU BASICALLY, WHAT SHE'S SAYING I THINK IS YOU JUST BASICALLY SAYING, BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF VACANCY. NO. WELL, WHATEVER. AS A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE IN GENERAL. YEAH, EXACTLY. PEOPLE WANT TO COME IN LATE IN THE FISCAL YEAR AND SAY, HEY, I GOT THIS OVER HERE. CAN I LOOK OVER HERE? SO THAT COMES BACK TO THE BOARD, RIGHT? OH, IT DOES ANYWAY. OH, YES. THE BOARD AND THE BOARD HAS TO APPROVE THE TRANSFER. ALRIGHT. THAT'S ME BEING NEW. IF YOU, IF THEY COME BACK AND THEY SAY, WELL, I HAVE FOUR POSITIONS THAT WERE FUNDED THAT HAVE NOT BEEN FILLED. CAN I USE THIS? UM, THE BOARD LAST IN DECEMBER APPROVED ONE OF THE DEPARTMENT, ONE OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS HIRED AN EMPLOYEE OF WAY ABOVE HER SALARY, AND THEY TOOK THE MONEY FROM ANOTHER CATEGORY. BUT THE BOARD HAS TO APPROVE THAT. YEAH. BUT NOT HER SALARY BUT POSITION. YEAH. BUT THE BOARD HAS TO APPROVE TO DO THAT. THEY CAN'T DO IT ON THEIR OWN. MM-HMM, . WELL, I WAS LOOKING AT MORE AS A POLICY THAN, THAN AN INDIVIDUAL REQUEST. THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO. THERE'S NOT VERY MANY VACANCIES. WELL, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, JUST AS A, A POLICY, THERE'S LIKE 10 OR LESS WE HAVE TO AJOUR OH, NO, NO, NO. THERE'S NOT 10 AND LESS. WE GOTTA BREAK THIS DOWN. NO. HOW MANY VACANCIES IN TOTAL? EVERYONE? I'M SORRY. NO, SORRY. GO AHEAD. WE'LL ADJOURN FOR THE THANK YOU. GOOD JOB YOU GUYS. I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.