[III. Call to Order]
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YOU'RE ABLE AND REMOVE YOUR HATS.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
[V. Adoption of the Agenda]
ITEM IS THE ADOPTION OF OUR AGENDA.MR. CHAIRMAN, MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA, PLEASE SAY AYE.
[VI. Adoption of the Regular Meeting Minutes]
ITEM TONIGHT IS THE ADOPTION OF THE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF MARCH 13TH, 2024.MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? OUR MINUTES ARE ADOPTED.
OUR NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS.
PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS ARE LIMITED ISSUES THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA.
IT'S INTENDED AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR TO GIVE THE PUBLIC AN INPUT ON RELATIVE PLANNING ISSUES NOT INTENDED AS A QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD.
SO IF YOU'RE HERE FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND FROM YOU CAN SEE FROM THE RULES AND EVERYTHING, WE WILL BE ON A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT FOR COMMENTS THAT YOU WOULDN'T CARE TO COME FORWARD SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD.
[VIII.A. CUP2024-03-03 John Paul the Great Montessori Academy for Private School - A request for a conditional use permit for a Private School. The property is located at 768 Bowling View Road and identified on tax map 13 as lot 46D. The property is zoned Agricultural (A) and is located in the Morrison Family subdivision in the Shenandoah Magisterial District. - Matt Wendling, Planning Director]
TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.OUR FIRST ONE TONIGHT, CUP 20 24 0 3 0 3 JOHN FALL.
THE GREAT JOHN PAUL, THE GREAT, I'M SORRY.
MONTESSORI ACADEMY FOR PRIVATE SCHOOL.
REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 7 68 BOWLING VIEW ROAD, IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 13 AS LOT 46 D PROPERTY ZONED AGRICULTURAL LOCATED IN THE MORRISON FAMILY SUBDIVISION AND THE SHENANDOAH MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT.
UH, THE, THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL.
UM, THE PROPERTY IS, UH, CURRENTLY THE BOWLING GREEN SOUTH GOLF COURSE.
UH, THAT GOLF COURSE WAS, UH, HAS BEEN CLOSED SINCE ITS RECENT PURCHASE IN 2023.
BY HELL, TOWN RIVER, UH, INVESTMENTS, LLC.
UM, THE SCHOOL CURRENTLY SERVES 141 STUDENTS AND HAS A 20 FULL-TIME AND 18 PART-TIME EMPLOYEES, UM, AND HAS A CURRICULUM BASED ON THE CATHOLIC MONTESSORI APPROACH AS STATED IN THEIR MISSION STATEMENT.
UH, THEY CURRENTLY OPERATE THE, THEIR SCHOOL IN THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL.
THEY PROPOSED THAT THIS FACILITY WILL INCLUDE OPEN AREAS FOR OUTDOOR RECESS, DAYTIME SPORTS, RECREATION, AND DEVELOPMENT OF OCCUPATIONS RELATING TO LIVESTOCK, HU HUSBANDRY, FARMING AND GARDENING.
UH, THEY CURRENTLY HAVE FIVE PROGRAMS FOR PRESCHOOL CHILDREN THREE DAYS A WEEK, AND ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL AGE, CHILDREN FIVE DAYS A WEEK.
THEIR LONG-TERM PLANS ARE TO EXPAND TO INCLUDE TODDLERS AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, BUT NOT TO EXCEED ENROLLMENT OF MORE THAN 200 STUDENTS.
UM, THE PROPERTY HISTORY IS THAT, UM, THERE WAS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ISSUED TO LINWOOD MORRISON IN 1981 FOR A GOLF COURSE.
THERE WERE NO CONDITIONS ON THAT PERMIT.
UH, AND AS, AS I MENTIONED, THE GOLF COURSE, UH, RECENTLY CEASED OPERATIONS.
UM, UH, THE COMP PLAN, THIS DOES, UH, IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH, UH, UH, CONFORMANCE OF THE, UH, LAND USE MAP FOR PRIVATE SCHOOL AND THE COMP PLAN.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS NOT CON, UM, IS NOT CONTIGUOUS WITH, UH, FRONT ROW AND DOESN'T QUALIFY FOR USE OF TOWN WATER AND SEWER SERVICES.
THE PREVIOUS USES A GOLF COURSE AND CLUBHOUSE WAS SERVED BY A PRIVATE WELL AND SEPTIC SYSTEM.
UM, THEN DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES TO PRESERVE LAND FOR FORESTED USE, OPEN SPACE AND RURAL CHARACTER.
UM, THIS LAND WOULD KEEP A SIGNIFICANT AREA OF THE PROPERTY AND OPEN SPACE TO BE USED FOR ATHLETIC FIELDS, GARDENING, FARMING AND LIVESTOCK CONTAINMENT AREAS FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES.
ALSO, THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PRESERVATION PLAN THAT IDENTIFIES AND PROTE PROTECTS HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT AREA SITES AND PROPERTIES.
UM, A PRIVATE SCHOOL WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY MAY PROVIDE A BENEFIT FOR PROVIDING HISTORICAL CONTEXT FOR EDUCATION SCHOOLS AND SITES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND BE A DESTINATION FOR INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE.
AND THEN LASTLY, MAINTAIN THE COUNTY'S RURAL CHARACTER.
THIS SCHOOL'S PROGRAM INVOLVES A CURRICULUM THAT
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DOES INCLUDE FARMING SKILLS, ANIMAL HUSBANDRY, GARDENING, AND AGRICULTURAL RESOURCE MANAGEMENT.THESE SOURCES ALONG COURSES ALONG WITH SPORTS AND ATHLETIC RECREATION, NECESSITATES A NEED FOR PRESERVING OPEN SPACE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING AND PARKING AREAS FOR THE EDUCATION OF THE STUDENTS.
UM, STAFF HAS RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM ALL OUTSIDE AGENCIES.
UM, THE APPLICANT WILL BE ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE, UM, IN THEIR PRESENTATION.
UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE FOLLOWING, UM, COMMENTS AND CONDITIONS.
NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL MEET ALL VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS, WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, OFFICE OF WATER PROGRAMS, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, AND WARREN COUNTY FIRE AND RESCUE, VIRGINIA STATEWIDE PREVENTION CODE RULES AND REGULATIONS.
NUMBER TWO, A SITE PLAN SHALL BE PREPARED AND APPROVED BY COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT SHOWING THE BUILDINGS INGRESS, EGRESS PARKING AREAS, OUTDOOR LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING SCREENING, STORAGE AREAS, TRASH RECEPTACLE, SIGNAGE, AND OTHER APPLICABLE ZONING REQUIREMENTS.
NUMBER THREE, THE PROPERTY SHALL HAVE A LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO SCREEN THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTHEAST AND TO THE WEST.
ALONG THE DEEDED 30 FOOT ACCESS EASEMENT, THE EXISTING VEGETATION WITHIN THE EASEMENT MAY BE REMOVED AND LANDSCAPING SHALL BE RELOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE EASEMENT.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, THE LANDSCAPING SHALL COMPLY WITH STANDARDS SET FORTH IN SECTION 180 49 0.1 OF THE WARREN COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE REGARDING LANDSCAPING.
NUMBER FOUR, ALL LIGHT FIXTURES SHALL BE FULLY SHIELDED WITH DARK SKY COMPLIANT FIXTURES AND CO COMPLY WITH WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTION 180 49.
THAT TWO FOR LIGHTING, NO EXTERIOR LIGHTING SHALL BE ALLOWED FOR THE SPORTS AND ATHLETIC FIELDS.
THE BUILDING AND PARKING LOT LIGHTING SHALL BE AUTOMATED TO TURN OFF ONE HOUR AFTER DARK AND BACK ON ONE HOUR BEFORE DAWN, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SECURITY LIGHTING.
AND NUMBER FIVE, THE OCCUPANCY OF THE SCHOOL SHALL BE NO MORE THAN 200 STUDENTS.
AND NUMBER SIX, THE USE OF THE PARKING AREA IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP.
LOT 24 SHALL BE ALLOWED WITH WRITTEN APPROVAL OF THE PROPERTY OWNER SUBMITTED TO PLANNING STAFF.
AND AFTER READING ALL REQUIREMENTS OF VDOT FOR ANY NECESSARY ENTRANCE IMPROVEMENTS, PARKING ORDER ADJACENT TO THE PUBLIC ROAD SHALL BE PROHIBITED AND CLEARLY IDENTIFIED WITH NO PARKING SIGNAGE.
UM, THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED, ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED.
UM, WE DO HAVE, I HAVE A, A SLIDE SHOW OF KIND OF OUR SITE VISIT THAT WE MADE TO THE PROPERTY, UM, PRIOR TO THE LAST MEETING, UH, KELLY, UH, WHILE OUR PLANNER AND MYSELF MET WITH THE APPLICANT AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE FROM THE SCHOOL.
AND IF YOU'D LIKE, WE CAN JUST GO THROUGH THAT.
AND THEN THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO, WITH HIS POWERPOINT, HE'D LIKE TO, UM, GO THROUGH THAT.
SO IF YOU HAVE A MOMENT, WE'LL JUST QUICKLY GO THROUGH OURS.
THIS IS THE INITIAL PROPOSED, UM, UH, AREA WITH THE TWO FIELDS FOR ATHLETICS.
UM, AND AGAIN, THESE ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
IT WAS JUST BASICALLY A CONCEPT PLAN, UM, PRIOR TO THEM GETTING ALL THE INFORMATION THEY NEEDED FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
UH, AND THIS IS LOOKING TO THE EAST.
UM, UH, THIS IS, UH, AN AREA TOWARD THEIR, THEIR ONE OF THE WELLS ON THE PROPERTY.
AND THIS, I BELIEVE IS A CURRENT DRAIN FIELD AREA.
UM, AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF IT TO THE SOUTH.
AND THAT'S KIND OF LOOKING TO THE, THE SOUTHEAST, I BELIEVE THAT AREA IS DRAIN FIELD.
AND THEN ALSO THERE, UH, BEYOND THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE ATHLETIC FIELDS, I BELIEVE.
THIS IS, UM, THE CLOSEST NEIGHBOR TO THE, UH, EAST OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS NOT A SCREENING, UH, BUFFER THERE.
SO THAT WOULD BE AN AREA THAT WOULD NEED TO BE SCREENED WITH LANDSCAPING.
AND THIS IS, UH, KIND OF CENTRAL TO THE GOLF COURSE AND CENTRAL TO THE PROPERTY.
THAT WILL BE ONE OF THEIR ATHLETIC FIELDS WILL BE DOWN IN THAT AREA, I BELIEVE.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS LOOKING TO THE WEST.
UM, THERE'S A ROW OF TREES ALONG THE ROAD AND THEN THERE'S A ROW OF TREES KIND OF ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE TO THOSE NEIGHBORS.
SO, UM, WITH THE, UM, APPROVAL OF THE EXEMPT SUBDIVISION FOR THIS 20 ACRE LOT, THEY WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE A 30 FOOT PRIVATE OR 20 FOOT PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT.
BUT THEY PUT, THEY PLATTED A 30 FOOT PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT TO THE 53 ACRES BEHIND IT.
AND THAT IS WHERE THAT 30 FOOT PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT IS.
AND WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT WITH OUR, UH, CONDITION IN THE, IN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
AND THIS IS A, A PICTURE OF THE CLUBHOUSE FROM THE, UH, PARKING AREA IN THE FRONT.
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AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP.SO, UM, YEAH, I, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER 'EM.
BUT, UH, THE APPLICANT IS HERE, UM, AND HE'S, UH, HE, HE WILL PRESENT SOME OF THE MORE RECENT INFORMATION THAT THEY'VE, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE, UM, UH, CON CONTRACTED GREENWAY ENGINEER TO ASSIST THEM WITH SOME OF THE, UH, SITE PLAN AND TRANSPORTATION AND UM, UH, HEALTH DEPARTMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE HAVING.
UH, IF NOEL WOULD WANT TO STEP UP, THERE HE IS.
EVENING EVERYBODY, ALL THESE ARE ALL, WELL, UH, I JUST WANTED TO UPDATE YOU ON OUR LAST MEETING AND, UH, JUST LET ME KNOW, ALISON, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE SHORT PRESENTATION GUYS, ON SOME INFORMATION.
WE HAD SOME COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND WE HIRED GREEN GREENWAY ENGINEERING TO GET SOME INFORMATION FOR US, SO TO BETTER INFORM YOU GUYS OF WHAT WAS GOING ON.
SO THIS IS OUR, UM, ONLY GREEN SITE ANALYSIS UPDATE.
UM, WE, UH, WE HAVE A PETITION OF SUPPORT FROM THE ROCKLAND RESIDENTS.
SO WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THE LOCAL RESIDENTS BY ATTENDING A RECENT ROCKLAND ALLIANCE MEETING TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LONG-TERM VISION WAS FOR ROCKLAND AREA AND ITS RESIDENTS.
UH, THE ROCKLAND ALLIANCE HAVE ANALYZED THE DATA FROM THE PLANNERS AND CONCURRED THAT THEY RECOMMEND THE PLANNING LIST OF RECOMME RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE IMPLEMENTED.
WE ARE ATTACHING A LIST OF ROCKLAND RESIDENTS WHO HAVE VOICED THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE PRIVATE SCHOOL, UH, WHICH IS ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
WE'VE CONTINUED TO WORK WITH LOCAL RESIDENTS OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS IN A TRANSPARENT MANNER ON ANY QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE ABOUT OUR PROPOSED USAGE.
UM, HERE'S THE LIST OF ROCKLAND RESIDENTS IN THE AREA ALREADY THAT HAVE SIGNED OUR PETITION THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF JOHN PAUL, THE GREAT MOVING INTO THIS LOCATION WITH THE ADDRESSES TO THE RIGHT.
SO THE NAMES ARE TO THE LEFT AND THE ADDRESSES ARE TO THE RIGHT TRAFFIC ANALYSIS RESULTS.
THIS WAS A HOT TOPIC ON THIS APPLICATION.
SO WE'VE HIRED A THIRD PARTY ENGINEERING FIRM, GREENWAY, TO ANALYZE THE IMPACTS ON TRAFFIC WITH OUR USAGE VERSUS WHAT IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS BREWERY AND WINERY.
THE DATA IS ATTACHED ON THIS PACKAGE.
THE SUMMARY FROM GREENWAY BASICALLY, UH, SAID THAT A WINE TASTING ROOM AND BREWERY TAP ROOM, WHICH ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHTS IN THE AGRICULTURAL JUST DISTRICT, WOULD GENERATE COMPARABLE OR GREATER WEEKDAY TRAFFIC COMPARED TO THE PRIVATE SCHOOL USE.
WHILE THE TAP ROOM USE IS PROJECTED TO GENERATE AN ADDITIONAL 107 TRIPS PER WEEKDAY AND AN ADDITIONAL 46 TRIPS PER WEEKDAY PM PEAK HOUR, THE INCREASED TRAFFIC IMPACT OF THESE BUYRIGHT USES INTENSIFIES ON THE WEEKENDS.
SPECIFICALLY ON SATURDAYS ALONE, THE WINE TASTING ROOM AND BREWERY TAP ROOM USES ARE PROJECTED TO GENERATE 1,608 ADDITIONAL TRIPS AND 964 TRIPS ACCORDING TO GREENWAY ENGINEERING RESPECTIVELY.
WHILE THE PROPOSED PRIVATE SCHOOL WILL NOT GENERATE ANY TRAFFIC ON THE WEEKENDS EXCEPT FOR OCCASIONAL, UM, PRIVATE SCHOOL, UM, UH, STUFF THAT'LL BE GOING ON.
SO, UM, I'LL GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, GUYS.
SO THIS, I'M NOT GONNA TRY AND READ THIS.
THIS, THIS IS BASICALLY JUST FOR YOUR OWN INFORMATION.
THIS IS THE DATA THAT BACKS UP THOSE TRAFFIC COUNTS FROM GREENWAY ENGINEERING AND HOW THEY, HOW THEY GOT THEIR DATA ALL TOGETHER, PARKING ANALYSIS, RESULTS.
PARKING WAS DEFINITELY GONNA BE A CHALLENGE BASED UPON, UH, THE EXISTING PARKING LOT ON THE SCHOOL SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
UH, AFTER VDOT HAD HAD LOOKED AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE DISCOVERED THAT THE ROAD WAS PRETTY CLOSE TO THE PARKING LOT AND WE HAD TO MAKE NEW, NEW UPDATES TO THE PROPERTY.
SO, UM, THEN WE WENT DOWN AND, UH, GOT A CONTRACT AND OUR, OR AN ADDENDUM TO OUR CONTRACT TO PURCHASE THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE ROAD, WHICH GAVE US AN ADDITIONAL 90 PARKING SPACES, WHICH WAS A, A BIG GAME CHANGER FOR THE PROPERTY.
SO PARKING WAS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE BASED UPON THE EXISTING PARKING LOT IN THE SCHOOL.
SO WE HAVE A CONTRACT TO PURCHASE THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE ROAD WITH ADDED ADDITIONAL 90 CARS, SEE THE ATTACHED REVISED PARKING ARRANGEMENT FROM OUR ENGINEERS, GREENWAY, A NEW TRAFFIC FLOW, WHICH INCORPORATES THE NEW DROP OFF MODEL, WHICH WILL TAKE ANY BURDEN OFF THE TRAFFIC OFF THE MAIN ROUTE.
SO I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT ON THIS PARTICULAR LIST HERE, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE 90 SPACES TO THE PARKING LOT AT THE TOP OF THIS DRAWING, UH, WHICH IS CURRENTLY NOW AN ADDENDUM TO OUR PURCHASE CONTRACT.
AND THEN TO THE SOUTH THERE YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE HAVE ON THE EASTERN SIDE TO THE RIGHT OF THE DRAWING, AN ENTRANCE COMING IN ONE WAY, TRAFFIC, WHICH WOULD ALLOW DROP OFF AT THE TOP OF THE BUILDING, GOING OUT, EXITING IN THE OTHER BUILDING.
WHAT THAT HAS DONE IS IT'S TAKEN AWAY A BUNCH OF HER PARKING IN THAT LOT, BUT WE HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING ON THE OTHER SIDE.
UM, ACTUALLY, IF I MAY GO ON HERE, UM, WELL, I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST, YEAH, I'LL
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JUST GO ON HERE.UM, THE IMPORTANT DATA OUT THERE TO THE LEFT BASICALLY SAYS WHERE OUR PARKING REQUIRED, ACCORDING TO GREENWAY IS 78 SPACES, BUT THE NEW PARKING PLAN HERE IS 94 SPACES.
SO IT GIVES US, UH, THE REQUIRED PARKING AND QUITE AN, AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF PARKING AS WELL.
MOVING ON TO THE NEXT DRAWING.
UM, THE SECOND TOP TOPIC ITEM WAS THE SEPTIC ANALYSIS.
UH, WE WERE APPROVED FOR, WELL, I'LL JUST READ THIS, SORRY.
GREENWAY ENGINEERING WAS HIRED TO EVALUATE WHETHER THE SEPTIC AND DISPOSAL AREA COULD SUPPORT AN ESTIMATED 3000 GALLONS PER DAY FOR THE PROPOSED SCHOOL USAGE.
A SOILS EVALUATION WAS COMPLETED BY EXCAVATING SEVERAL BACKHOE TEST PITS, WHICH WAS DONE RECENTLY, AND SUITABLE LANDSCAPE POSITIONS THAT ALSO MET, UH, REQUIRED SETBACKS.
THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT THAT IS THE SOIL IS PRETTY GOOD, AND WE FOUND A LOCATION TO, TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
UH, THE BAD NEWS FOR US IS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SPEND A BIT OF MONEY ON IT, BUT FOR SOME REASON IT WAS 750 GALLONS FOR THE OLD USAGE.
UH, I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WORKED, BUT IT'S, IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT FOR A WHILE.
UH, THE RESULTS OF THE SOIL INVESTIGATION THAT WE COULD PROPOSE ADDITIONAL DRAIN FIELD AREAS IN THE PROPERTY FOR AN ESTIMATED 3000 GALLONS PER DAY DISPOSAL AREA NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE SCHOOL.
THE PHOTO BELOW SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED DRAIN FIELD AREAS TO INCLUDE BOTH INSTALLATION AREA ALONG WITH THE REQUIRED RESERVE DRAIN FIELD.
THE AERIAL SHOWS, THE EXISTING WELLS AND SEPTIC COMPONENTS.
UM, SO HERE'S THE, UH, THE PITCHES AGAIN AND TO THE SOUTHEAST.
THIS IS THE NEW PROPOSED AREA.
UH, BASICALLY THAT WAS THE BEST AREA FOR THE SOILS AND, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT GOOD PERCOLATION IN THAT AREA.
WE HAVE TO RUN A LINE OUT TO IT, BUT WE ARE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THE PITCH, UM, TO TAKE THAT LINE OUT.
SO THAT, UH, AND THAT WAS PROBABLY, UH, THE BEST SPOT TO PUT IT IN ACCORDING TO GREENWAY ENGINEERING.
SO MOVING ON TO THE NEXT DRAWING, UH, WATER QUALITY ANALYSIS RESULTS ARE BACK.
UH, WE, WE DID SOME IN-HOUSE TESTING AND WE PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION TO, UH, COLD PEPPER AND WE'RE WAITING ON FEEDBACK, BUT THE RESULTS CAME BACK POSITIVE.
UH, WE'VE HIRED A WATER TESTING COMPANY TO TEST THE WATER AND THE GOOD NEWS IS THE WATER QUALITY CAN BACK CLEAN.
WE HAVE SUBMITTED THESE WATER LAB FINDINGS BACK TO THE OFFICE OF DRINKING WATER.
UM, BUILDING CODE, INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS, UH, OR ARCHITECT HAS COMPLETED THOSE.
UM, THE NEXT PAGE, I'M GONNA GO ON TO THOSE.
IT'S BASICALLY, AS WE STATED BEFORE, INTERIOR BATHROOM LAYOUT, STAIRWAYS TO BASEMENT, A DA RAMP, REQUIREMENTS AND SUMMARY.
IT'S A LITTLE SMALL THERE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE TO THE LEFT, THERE'S A NEW STAIRWAY WE NEED TO BUILD TO THE BASEMENT, WHICH IS, UM, IT'S JUST THE ONE WE HAVE NOW DOESN'T WORK.
SO WE NEED TO BUILD A NEW ONE, UH, TOILET LAYOUT LOCATIONS, BUT REALLY NOT CHANGING THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING ITSELF AT THE CURRENT TIME.
UM, AND SUMMARY, BASED UPON ALL THE ATTACHED INFORMATION, WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A SOLID ROADMAP TO BRING THE CURRENT PROPERTY UP TO CODE IN REGARD TO BUILDING TRAFFIC, PARKING, SEPTIC, AND WATER QUALITY.
AND ACTUAL FACT WITH THE CURRENT APPROVED USAGE, IT'S A GOOD THING THAT ALL OF THESE ITEMS WILL BE BROUGHT UP TO CURRENT CODE AND APPROVALS.
IN ADDITION, THE PROPOSED USAGE IS IN ALIGNED WITH THE FUTURE WARREN COUNTY COMP PLAN, LONG-TERM USE FOR THE ROCKLAND HISTORIC AREA BASED ON OUR COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.
JUST ONE MORE THING I'D LIKE TO ADD AS WELL.
AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DROP OFF SCHEDULE AND THE TRAFFIC WORKS, THE TRAFFIC WILL BE COMING FROM DALE ONTO THE SCHOOL PROPERTY AND BACK THROUGH DALE.
SO, UH, WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT GONNA TRY AND PUSH, UM, ANY, ANY OF THE, ANY OF THE PARENTS TO GO THROUGH THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AGAIN, IF THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC, WE'RE GONNA REDIRECT IT OUT TO THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE.
AND ON DALE, I THINK THEY SHOW THAT IN YOUR ONE PLAN WITH THE, UH, GO BACK HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
SO YOU, YEAH, SO THAT'S AT THE TOP THERE.
SO YEAH, IT SHOWS THE TRAFFIC FLOW RIGHT THERE FROM DALE OUT TO THE, THE BOTTOM.
UH, THE, THE RED IS ON THE WAY IN, THE GREEN IS ON THE WAY OUT.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? NO.
ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WITH THAT, WE WILL CALL THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN.
TWO THINGS I DO WANT TO REITERATE IS YOU ARE RESTRICTED TO A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
ALSO, IF SOMEONE MAKES THE POINT YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE, YOU REALLY DON'T NEED TO MAKE THE POINT AGAIN.
YOU CAN COME UP AND SAY YOU AGREE WITH SOMEONE AND WE'LL BE DULY NOTED BY US.
SO WHO'S THE FIRST ONE WE HAD SIGN UP? PETER LEMON.
ALRIGHT, WELL I WAS FOCUSING CHAIRMAN ON YOU GOT TO COME UP IN A TONE.
WELL, I'M GONNA HAVE STRICT TONE.
IS THAT ALL RIGHT? THAT GOES TWO WAYS.
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OUTSIDE.PETER LEMON 4, 8, 6, HIDDEN VIEW LANE.
UM, BUT WE HAVE OUR KIDS THERE AND, UM, WE LOVE IT.
AND I WAS, MONTESSORI IS NEW TO ME, SO, BUT I'M 60 AND I'VE RAISED SOME KIDS ALREADY.
SO I CAME AND VISITED THE SCHOOL AND LOOKED AT WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND THE THING THAT STUCK OUT TO ME WAS JUST HOW THE ENVIRONMENTS FOR EACH OF THE CLASSES, UH, WAS IMPERATIVE AND CRUCIAL TO THEIR, TO THEIR ON.
AND THAT'S PERFECT TO ME FOR, FOR ROCKLAND.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE RESIDENTS ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT AS SO IMPORTANT TO THEM WHEN WE HAD THEIR, OUR, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
AND, UM, IT, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO US.
SO I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT FIT.
AND, UM, I HOPE Y'ALL APPROVE IT.
HI, CARRIE LEMON 4, 8 6 HIDDEN VIEW LANE.
UM, I HAVE KIDS AT THREE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS THIS YEAR AND THREE DIFFERENT SCHEDULES.
AND, UM, BY ALLOWING OUR SCHOOL TO TAKE THIS PROPERTY, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR MY OTHER CHILDREN TO GET IN AND THEY CAN ALL BE HOPEFULLY AT ONE SCHOOL.
AND, UM, THE OUTDOOR ASPECT OF THE MONTESSORI IS, UM, SO, UH, ENCOURAGING AND INVITING FOR KIDS TO BE ABLE TO SPEND THAT TIME OUT THERE TO DO THE GARDENING, WORKING WITH ANIMALS, UM, JUST GETTING OUT IN NATURE, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON THAT WE MOVED TO VIRGINIA FROM CALIFORNIA.
WE LOVE THE OUTDOORS AND WE WANT OUR CHILDREN, UH, TO LOVE THAT AS WELL.
SO, UM, WE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT IF WE COULD MOVE INTO THIS SPACE.
IT'S ABOUT A MILE FROM WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I'VE BEEN IN, UH, THE AREA FOR, WELL ON 30 YEARS AT THIS POINT.
I'VE BEEN VERY CONSERVATIVE ABOUT CONSERVATION AND I'M AN INVOLVED MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY.
WHEN I FIRST HEARD OF IT, I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THIS.
I'M GONNA NEED TO BE CONVINCED.
I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A QUICK THREE REASONS WHY I HAVE BEEN.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, CONSIDERING HONESTLY THE OTHER ALTERNATIVES OF THE PEOPLE I'M SURE WILL MAKE THIS POINT, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT'S A REAL SERIOUS THING IN THE ABSTRACT.
MIGHT AIR PER, UH, PREFERRED TO HAVE IT BE SOME TYPE OF JUST FARMING, PERHAPS IT'S NOT GONNA BE THAT.
LOOKING AT OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE THERE.
I THINK THAT MAKES THIS USAGE LOOK REALLY GOOD.
SECOND, THE PEOPLE INVOLVED FROM THE START, THEY HAVE SHOWN THAT THEY ARE LISTENING.
I'VE, I'VE, I'VE GONE TO A LOT OF HEARINGS.
I'VE SEEN A LOT OF REPRESENTATIVES OF DIFFERENT FIRMS THAT WANT TO COME IN AND DO SOMETHING NEW AND THEY TRY TO CONVINCE YOU THEY'RE GONNA BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
I, I THINK THAT THEY ARE CONCERNED.
THEY WANT THE COMMUNITY TO STAY THE WAY IT IS.
SO THEY WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN A CERTAIN KIND OF WAY.
I BELIEVE THEM WHEN THEY SAY THEY'RE GONNA LIMIT THINGS, AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM LIKE THEY HAVE, THEY'RE SAYING THAT IT, THEY WANT IT TO BE SMALL.
I'M A PROFESSOR AT KRISTEN COLLEGE.
WE KEEP THE COLLEGE A CERTAIN SIZE.
WE DON'T WANT TO GROW 'CAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING IN EDUCATION.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT MOVES TO THE FINAL POINT THAT IT IS AN EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION AND IT'S ABOUT A PARTICULAR KIND OF EDUCATION.
THEY'RE NOT HERE TO MAKE MONEY.
IF THEY'RE HERE TO MAKE MONEY, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD PUSH 'EM TO WANT TO EXPAND LATER ON.
IT SEEMS TO ME THEY'RE NOT GONNA WANNA EXPAND LATER ON.
THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING WELL ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND FORMING YOUNG PEOPLE IN AN AGRICULTURAL ENVIRONMENT, EXPANDING LATER ON, DOES NOT FIT WELL WITH THAT PROGRAM.
THEY'RE NOT HERE TO MAKE MONEY.
ANYONE WHO GOES INTO EDUCATION TO MAKE MONEY IS CRAZY.
SO THEY HAVE GOOD, THEY MUST HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS.
THEY WANNA DO SOMETHING FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.
IF THEY WANNA FORM YOUNG PEOPLE IN BEING PART OF AN AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY, SOME AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY HAS TO LET THEM IN.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS, THIS IS A REASONABLE FIT HERE.
LET'S, LET'S EDUCATE SOME YOUNG PEOPLE IN HOW TO BE PART OF AN AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY AND BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
AND THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT THEM.
MY NAME IS EMILY MINNICK AND I LIVE AT EIGHT 30 SAWGRASS DRIVE, CHARLESTOWN, WEST VIRGINIA.
UM, I SEND FOUR OF MY CHILDREN TO JOHN PAUL, THE RATE MONTESSORI ACADEMY.
AND YES, I DRIVE FROM WEST VIRGINIA EVERY WEEK TO SEND MY CHILDREN TO THIS SCHOOL AS A LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE GOVERNMENT TEACHER.
I'M A STAUNCH ADVOCATE FOR GOVERNMENT AND POLICY SOLUTIONS AT THE MOST LOCAL LEVEL POSSIBLE.
AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE TONIGHT.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER BEFORE THE REPRESENTATIVES
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VOICING THEIR OPINION ON A MATTER THAT IS EXTREMELY IMPACTFUL TO OUR COMMUNITY.WHAT IS DECIDED HERE TONIGHT REGARDING JP GMAS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST WILL IMPACT THE COMMUNITY FOR YEARS TO COME.
AND I BELIEVE IN EXTREMELY POSITIVE WAY.
IT'S A CRITICAL BUILDING BLOCK OF SOCIETY'S EDUCATION AND FORMATION OF THE YOUTH.
WARREN COUNTY SEEKS TO ATTRACT RESIDENTIAL BUSINESS AND TOURIST GROWTH EACH YEAR AND TO ATTRACT HIGH QUALITY TEACHERS, NOT ONLY TO TEACH IN OUR SCHOOLS, BUT ALSO TO LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS SCHOOL ACTUALLY DOES.
WE ALL WANT WARREN COUNTY TO FLOURISH TO A PLACE WHERE YOUNG PEOPLE WANT TO STAY AND NEW FAMILIES ARE ATTRACTED TO SETTLE DOWN IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE HOLD THAT EXACT SAME COMMITMENT TO GROW IN THE COMMUNITY, SERVE IT, AND BE A POSITIVE FORCE FOR CHANGE.
NORTON, UH, LIVE AT 93 CLEAR BACK ROAD.
UH, SO WE'RE MEMBERS OF, OF, UH, ROCKLAND COMMUNITY.
UM, WE MOVED INTO THE ROCKLAND COMMUNITY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT ACTUALLY IT REMINDED ME OF, UH, MY OWN HOME, UH, GROWING UP AS A, AS A KID IN, IN MASSACHUSETTS.
UH, THE RURAL ASPECTS OF IT, THE ROCK ACTUALLY COMING UP OUT THE GROUND AND ALL THAT.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY, THAT'S A, THAT'S AN ASPECT OF THE AREA
UM, MY WIFE AND I, WE HAVE FOUR CHILDREN AT THE SCHOOL RIGHT NOW, SO IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF WORKED OUT WELL FOR US, WE HOPE.
UM,
UM, AND YOU KNOW, I I THINK I COULD SAFELY SAY THAT WE, WE SHARED THOSE CONCERNS.
UM, THE FACT IS THAT FROM EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, THAT I'VE HEARD AND SEEN FROM THE SCHOOL, WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF LISTENING TO THE CONCERNS OF, OF ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS, UH, ADDRESSING THEM, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, CREATING A MITIGATION PLAN.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, REALLY SORT OF FASCINATING TO SEE THAT.
AND I THINK THAT THERE IS A SINCERE DESIRE ON THE PART OF THE SCHOOL AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PEOPLE YOU'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF IT, TO, TO HAVE, UH, TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, NOT JUST HERE AS THEY'RE COMING IN INITIALLY, BUT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR OF THE VOLUNTEER.
BUT THIS IS, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WHERE, YOU KNOW, THESE CONCERNS ARE BEING ADDRESSED ONLY AT THE BEGINNING.
I THINK THERE'S A DESIRE TO BUILD, UM, A LONG RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY OVER THE, UH, OVER THE LONG TERM.
AND I, I HOPE YOU THANK YOU SLOAN.
CASEY, WE'RE JUST STRUGGLING BACK HERE.
UM, I LIVE AT 41 0 3 REMOUNT ROAD.
UM, WE, I, MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE OUR ONE SON, UM, AT J-P-G-M-A.
AND LIKE IT'S BEEN VOICED BEFORE, WE, WE REALLY THINK THAT THE ROCKLAND COMMUNITY WOULD BE A GREAT FIT FOR US AND THAT WE WOULD BE A GREAT FIT FOR THEM WITH THEIR SMALL AGRICULTURALLY FOCUSED SCHOOL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
THEY'RE HAVING A LITTLE DIFFICULTY HEARING YOU BACK, SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE SPEAK UP A LEVEL STERNLY PLEASE.
I KNOW, SORRY, I'M NOT VERY STERN.
I LIVE AT 37 62 BROWNTOWN ROAD.
UM, I WOULD PROBABLY ARGUE THAT BROWNTOWN IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL AREA OF THE COUNTY
UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I'VE HELPED SUPPORT THEM IN THEIR JOURNEY OF FINDING OF LOCATION, WHICH IS NOT VERY EASY.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY LIMITED ON BUILDINGS AND OLD CHURCHES AND OLD SCHOOLS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IT'S BEEN QUITE THE ADVENTURE.
BUT WE'RE SUPER EXCITED TO FIND THIS LOCATION.
AND WHEN I DRIVE HOME EVERY DAY, THERE'S ANOTHER LITTLE SCHOOL ON BROWNTOWN ROAD THAT USED TO BE, YOU KNOW, MY HUSBAND'S PEDIATRICIAN BACK IN THE DAY.
AND IT'S KIND OF THIS BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE IN.
I GET TO VOTE AT A LITTLE WHITE CHURCH, YOU KNOW? UM, AND IT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO HAVE A NEW PLACE.
RIGHT NOW THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN A SMALL METHODIST CHURCH IN TOWN THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET THEM TO.
AND IT DEFINITELY DOESN'T COMPLETELY SUIT THEIR NEEDS, BUT THEY'VE MADE IT WORK AND THE NEIGHBORS HAVE MADE IT WORK AND THE CHURCH THERE LOVES THEM.
BUT WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THIS NEXT STEP AND TO GET IT APPROVED.
AND I LOOK BACK AT FREDERICK COUNTY 'CAUSE WE HAD LOOKED AT THAT SCHOOL, ALER, AND SOME OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR
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THAT THAT WAS RECENTLY SOLD TO A PRIVATE SCHOOL.AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE UPSET 'CAUSE OF THE PRICE.
BUT REALLY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SAID THAT IT HELPED REDUCE THE IMPACT TO THE TAXPAYERS BECAUSE THE MORE PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND SMALLER SCHOOLS THAT YOU HAVE, THE LESS PUBLIC SCHOOLS YOU HAVE TO BUILD.
RIGHT? SO THAT WAS THEIR REASONING FOR SELLING THAT SCHOOL TO A PRIVATE SCHOOL.
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I HOPE YOU VOTE YES.
HI, I AM WALT MABE LIVE AT 2 2 4 MANASSAS AVENUE.
AND I'M NOT A MEMBER OF ROCKLAND COMMUNITY OTHER THAN I'VE BECOME FRIENDS WITH A LOT OF THE PEOPLE OUT THERE.
THE, THE PROBLEM WITH THE CHURCH, I MEAN, WITH, WITH THE SCHOOL IS NOT THE SCHOOL ITSELF.
PEOPLE LIKE IT, THE SHORT TERM VISUAL IS OUTSTANDING.
BUT THE CONCERN THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE IS SIMPLY WHAT'S IT GONNA LOOK LIKE IN TWO YEARS? WHAT'S IT GONNA LOOK LIKE WHEN HE HIT THE 200 KIDS? WHAT'S IT GONNA LOOK LIKE WHEN THEY WANT TO GROW? AND THEY, RIGHT NOW, ACCORDING TO THE CUP, THEY CAN'T, IF THEY WANT TO GROW, THEN THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET AN ADDITIONAL CUP TO GO PAST WHAT THEY'VE GOT.
NOW, IF THEY WANT A CHURCH OR A TEMPLE OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE, THEY GOTTA HAVE A CUP.
IF THEY WANT ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY, THERE'S ANOTHER CUP.
IF THE OWNER OF THE FACILITY WANTS TO GET AWAY FROM IT, OR SOMEBODY COMES TO HIM OR HER AND SAYS, WE'LL BUY YOU OUT.
THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE NOT AGAINST IT.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ONE PERSON SAY IT'S A BAD IDEA, BUT WHAT I HAVE HEARD IS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S GONNA BE GOING ON IN THE FUTURE AND HOW WE CAN PROTECT THE ROCKLAND COMMUNITY.
'CAUSE IT'S BEAUTIFUL OUT THERE AND YOU GROW THAT FACILITY, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S NOT AS BEAUTIFUL.
IT'S ACTUALLY MORE BUSY THE MORE PEOPLE THAT YOU GET.
SO MY CONSIDERATION ISN'T TO BE AGAINST THE OPPORTUNITY.
EDUCATION FOR OUR CHILDREN IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS.
AND I'D LOVE TO SEE IT GROW AND BE IN A AND PUT IT IN, KEEP IT IN THAT COMMUNITY THAT RESPECTS THE OPENNESS, THE FARMING, AND EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
SO YOU, IT HAD, IT MEETS ALL YOUR BOXES.
NOW I'M PART OF THE EMOTIONAL SIDE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO AT LEAST HAVE THEIR VOICE HEARD.
AND SIDE NOTE, IT'S TOUGH TO BE ON THIS SIDE OF THE PODIUM.
I AM A PARENT, I'M ALSO A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN WARREN COUNTY.
I CONSULT WITH ABOUT 20 DIFFERENT LOCAL BUSINESSES, MANY OF WHOM ARE IN THE TRADES COMMUNITY AND MANY OF WHOM ARE IN THE FARMING COMMUNITY.
I WOULD SAY ABOUT 60% OF MY BUSINESS IS TRADES AND FARMERS.
AND, UM, THERE, THIS SCHOOL IS VERY UNIQUE.
MY CHILDREN GO HERE AND THAT IS PART OF THE REASON THAT WE CHOSE THIS, IS THAT WE WANTED THEM TO BE IN A RURAL COMMUNITY WITH ACCESS TO THE TRADES.
MY PARENTS ARE HERE, MY IN-LAWS ARE HERE.
UM, AND WE REALLY WANNA SEE OUR KIDS IN THIS RURAL COMMUNITY.
WE DON'T WANNA LIVE IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA.
WE DON'T WANNA BE IN MANASSAS.
AND, UM, TO BE IN THIS RURAL COMMUNITY, DON'T LET THE UNIFORMS FOOL YOU.
IF MY SON WERE TO TURN AROUND, YOU WOULD SEE MUD STREAKS ON THE BACK OF THOSE WHITE SHIRTS.
IF WE COULD GO TO NAVY NEXT YEAR, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
UM, MY, MY 7-YEAR-OLD SON, UM, IS IN THE, WAS IN THE EL UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AND THEY USED TO BE ABLE TO DO FRESH AIR FRIDAYS AND EVERY FRIDAY THEY WOULD GO OUTSIDE AND THEY WOULD SPEND THE ENTIRE DAY GOING IN THE CREEKS.
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ABOUT THE, UH, WILDLIFE THAT LIVED THERE.THEY WERE IDENTIFYING DIFFERENT LEAVES.
WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT SINCE WE MOVED, UM, TO THE LOCATION AT THE METHODIST CHURCH, WHICH WE ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR THEM.
UM, BUT THE RURAL ASPECT IS WHAT DREW US TO THIS.
I WANT MY KIDS TO BE ABLE TO GROW UP IN A UNIQUE EDUCATION, UM, WHERE THEY ARE EXPOSED TO KIND OF THIS SMALL BUSINESS FARMING, WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE? BUT ALSO TO BE OUTDOORS AND MOVE THEIR BODIES AS WELL AS THEIR MINDS.
I AM NOT GOING TO ATTEMPT YOUR LAST NAME.
I LIVE AT 2 6 3 CHAPEL VIEW DRIVE IN FRONT ROYAL.
UM, I, I MOVED TO FRONT ROYAL IN 1980 WITH MY EIGHT CHILDREN.
AND WE LIVED IN THE FARMHOUSE, UM, DOWN AT THE END OF, UH, OF THE BOWLING GREEN, UH, GOLF COURSE ON FAIRGROUNDS ROAD.
AND WE RENTED FROM LINWOOD AND NELLY MAY MORRIS.
AND SO I KNEW THEM VERY WELL, LOVED THEM DEEPLY.
UM, AND WHEN WE MOVED IN, ALL OF THIS WAS, UH, WAS FARMING.
AND, UH, WE WOULD SEE LINWOOD OUT THERE ON HIS TRACTOR FARMING AND SO ON.
AND THEN I REMEMBER THE DAY HE HAD TO, UH, DESTROY HIS WHOLE SOYBEAN, UH, CROP BECAUSE HE SAID IT WAS CHEAPER BECAUSE OF THE GOVERNMENT, UM, TARIFFS AND STUFF.
AND THAT'S WHEN HE DECIDED TO TURN IT INTO A GOLF COURSE, WHICH, UM, HE DID VERY BEAUTIFULLY.
UM, SO HE WAS ALWAYS A FARMER.
SHE WAS ALWAYS PLANNING HER GARDEN AND HER FLOWERS.
AND I THINK THAT THEY, I REALLY BELIEVE, I, I HAVE ALWAYS LOVED ROCKLAND.
I ALWAYS, I STILL COME OUT AND RUN AROUND OUT HERE, RIDE MY BIKE OUT HERE 'CAUSE IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL.
AND SO I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO, TO KEEP IT, UM, RURAL AND BEAUTIFUL.
I PERSONALLY AM ON THE BOARD AT J-P-G-M-A AND I TEACH THERE.
UM, AND I TEACH THESE CHILDREN, AND I, I CAN ASSURE YOU, I CAN UNDERSTAND THE, UH, THE, THE HESITATIONS OF SOME OF THE OLDER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
BUT FOR THEM TO GET TO KNOW THESE CHILDREN, THESE CHILDREN ARE MORE LIKELY TO COME AND OFFER TO, UH, TO, UH, SHOVEL THEIR DRIVEWAYS AND LEAK THEIR RE UH, RAKE THEIR LEAVES FOR FREE.
UM, 'CAUSE THEY'RE, THESE CHILDREN ARE SERVICE-MINDED.
THEY'RE VERY RESPECTFUL, THEY'RE GRATEFUL.
SEVERAL OF MY GRANDCHILDREN ARE IN THE SCHOOL.
UM, I, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO AT J-P-G-M-A IS WE EDUCATE THESE CHILDREN TO BE GOOD CITIZENS.
UH, WE, WE ARE WANT THEM TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
WE, WE TREAT THEM, WE TEACH THEM IN MORAL WAYS.
UM, THEY GO ON MISSION TRIPS AND, UH, THEY SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE EVERY DAY.
AND I THINK THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE GOAL OF J-P-G-M-A IS TO RAISE CHILDREN WHO WILL BE GOOD CITIZENS AND WILL BE GOOD MEMBERS OF COMMUNITY.
AND WE ALSO, UM, I WAS IN THE PLANNING OF THE ORIGINAL SCHOOL.
AND SO THE THINGS WE'VE SAID ABOUT OUR GROWTH ARE ACTUALLY TRUE.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING.
I LIVE AT 3 9 7 3 ROCKLAND ROAD, WARREN COUNTY.
I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THE PROPOSED SCHOOL WILL ADD TO OUR ALREADY, SORRY, CAN'T HEAR.
HOW ABOUT THIS? THAT'S BETTER.
UM, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THE PROPOSED SCHOOL WILL ADD TO OUR ALREADY BURDENED NARROW COUNTRY ROADS.
OUR ROADS HAVE VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL CURVES, NO SHOULDERS, AND A LOT OF SLOW AGRICULTURAL EQUIPMENT.
UM, TRAFFIC IS CUMULATIVE AND WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC WITH NUMBERS THAT WILL ONLY INCREASE IN TIME AS 5 22 BECOMES MORE AND MORE CONGESTED.
SOON WE WILL HAVE DETOURED TRAFFIC ADDED DUE TO THE BRIDGE IN CEDARVILLE AND NOW PROPOSED, UM, ADDITIONAL 450 CONCENTRATED VEHICULAR VISITS DAILY, WHICH ADDS UP TO 2,250 ADDITIONAL TRIPS PER WEEK.
THIS IS A SIZEABLE INCREASE I REQUEST BEFORE ANY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS CONSIDERED OR GRANTED.
LET THE COUNTY AND VDOT PROVIDE PROTECTION FOR ROCKLANDS RESIDENTS FROM THIS ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC BY INSTALLING TRAFFIC CALMING SUCH
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AS RUMBLE STRIPS, LOWERING SPEED LIMITS, SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE ON ROCKLAND ROAD AND INCREASING ENFORCEMENT OF THE SPEED LIMITS.NOT TRYING THAT LAST NAME EITHER.
UM, AND I'M AT, IT'S SUCH A TOUGH LAST NAME, UH, 1305 IN BODEN DRIVE.
I HAVE FOUR KIDS AT THE SCHOOL.
THEY'VE BEEN ENROLLED SINCE ITS INCEPTION.
UM, AND I JUST, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT IS THE MOST GENUINE, HARDWORKING STAFF, UM, PARENTS AND STUDENTS THAT ARE A PART OF THIS SCHOOL.
NOT ONLY DO MY KIDS LOVE THE SCHOOL, BUT MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE JUST BEEN BLOWN AWAY BY THE CALIBER OF FAMILIES THAT ARE INVOLVED AND HAVE BECOME VERY GOOD FRIENDS WITH EVERYONE AT THE SCHOOL.
UM, I'M, I ECHO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID, BEING THRILLED ABOUT THE RURAL SETTING.
SO I'M NOT GONNA KEEP SAYING THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO VOUCH FOR THE SINCERITY OF THE STAFF AND THE BOARD WHEN THEY SAY THAT THEY REALLY INTEND TO, UM, HAVE POSITIVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH ROCKLAND RESIDENTS.
WE'RE CURRENTLY RENTING FROM THE METHODIST CHURCH, UM, AND WE HAVE JUST HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
THEY'VE BEEN INCREDIBLY HOSPITABLE.
AND A VERY QUICK EXAMPLE, UM, THE, OUR KIDS HELP ONE OF THE STAFF MEMBERS AT THE METHODIST CHURCH WEEKLY TO BAKE CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIES FOR THEIR COMMUNITY OUTREACH, UM, A LUNCH THAT THEY PROVIDE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO I JUST, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT IS A GENUINE, UH, DESIRE ON BEHALF OF THE STAFF AND THE BOARD TO MAINTAIN THAT POSITIVE WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ROCKLAND COMMUNITY.
UM, SO I ASK YOU TO APPROVE OUR PETITION.
HELLO, UH, MY NAME IS COLLEEN HENIN.
I LIVE AT 1694 EAST REFUGE CHURCH ROAD.
I'M THE HEAD OF SCHOOL OF J-P-G-M-A.
UM, I'VE LIVED IN AND AROUND WARREN COUNTY FOR 30 YEARS.
I ACTUALLY GREW UP IN ROCKLAND AS A YOUNG GIRL, SO I REMEMBER A LOT OF THE, THE RURAL SETTING THAT IT, IT USED TO HAVE WHEN WE CAME, UH, THE GOLF COURSE WAS THERE, BUT WE DID KNOW LINWOOD MORRISON AND HIS WIFE NELLY WHITE AS WELL.
UM, I THINK THAT OUR SCHOOL WILL BE A VERY STRONG COMPLIMENTARY ADDITION AND WE DO, UH, STRIVE TO BUILD AND SERVE THAT ROCKLAND COMMUNITY IN THE LONG TERM.
WE DON'T WANT TO JUST COME IN, YOU KNOW, COME IN AND TAKE OVER.
AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THINGS I'VE HEARD ABOUT BUILDINGS.
AND HONESTLY, THE GOAL OF THE SCHOOL IS TO NURTURE THESE CHILDREN IN BEAUTY.
AND THERE'S NOTHING MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN THAT BUILDING AND THOSE 20 ACRES.
AND IF YOU WERE TO ADD MORE TO THAT IN DIFFERENT WAYS, IT WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE AWAY.
AND OUR SCHOOL'S VERY FOCUSED ON THE INDIVIDUAL AND, UH, OUR STUDENT TO TEACH YOU RATIO.
UH, THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT VERY SPECIAL THAT THEY HAVE, WE HAVE SMALL CLASSES AND A LOT OF ADULTS TO HELP THEM IN THE DIFFERENT NEEDS THEY MIGHT HAVE.
UM, THE PROPERTY IS ESPECIALLY, UH, PERFECT FOR THEM TO GROW, PLAY FARM, AND DO ANIMAL HUSBANDRY.
UM, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PURSUE THAT AS MUCH AS WE WOULD'VE LIKED TO, BUT IT'S IN OUR MISSION STATEMENT THAT WE HAVE ALWAYS DREAMED OF A RURAL SETTING FOR OUR CHILDREN.
I AM CLEARLY IN FAVOR OF THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I HOPE YOU APPROVE US.
IT'S ACTUALLY KRISTEN
UM, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO ALL OF US.
UM, I REMEMBER WHEN IT REALLY WAS SURROUNDED BY FARMLAND WITH CORN FIELDS.
WE PLAYED IN THERE CORN FIELDS, AND THEN IT TURNED TO A GOLF COURSE.
WALK RIGHT INTO THE MICROPHONE, I'M SORRY.
SO I HAVE FOUR OF OUR CHILDREN ARE AT THE SCHOOL.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I AM INVOLVED WITH IS HELPING WITH ADMISSION TRIPS THAT OUR, OUR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS DO EVERY YEAR.
FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL, WE'VE, WE TAKE TRIPS, SOME OF IT JUST LOCALLY HELPING MISSION WITH SERVING OUR COMMUNITY, UM, SERVING THE POOR OF THE COMMUNITY HERE.
WE'VE GONE TO DC AND ALSO KENTUCKY.
UM, SO THE REASON I'M JUST SAYING THAT AGAIN, IS JUST TO SHOW THE CALIBER OF OUR FAMILIES AND OF OUR STUDENTS, THEY ARE GOOD CHILDREN, GOOD FAMILIES.
WE ARE SINCERE, WE ARE TRANSPARENT.
UM, I KNOW ROCKLAND COMMUNITY IS BEAUTIFUL AND IT WILL STAY BEAUTIFUL.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA COMPLIMENT IT IN OUR FAMILIES AND STUDENTS WILL MAKE IT MORE BEAUTIFUL.
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GOOD EVENING.THREE OF OUR, UM, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS ALSO.
DAN BELLER, 78 WAKEMAN MILL ROAD.
UM, I'M A PARENT AT THE SCHOOL.
I HAVE THREE KIDS THERE, HOPEFULLY A FOURTH ATTENDING NEXT YEAR.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE MOVED OUT FROM, WE LIVED IN TOWN FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
MY WIFE AND I'VE BEEN IN THE COUNTY FOR 12 YEARS, THREE YEARS AGO, MOVED OUT NEAR THE AIRPORT AND, UM, WE COULDN'T BE MORE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE SCHOOL TO, AS GREAT AS THE METHODIST CHURCH HAS BEEN IN ACCOMMODATING US.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE RATHER CRAMPED, UH, CLASSROOMS FOR THE NUMBER OF KIDS IN THERE.
WE COULDN'T BE MORE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE RURAL SETTING OF THE SCHOOL.
SO I WOULD, UH, HUMBLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE FOR THE PETITION.
HI, I'M ANN JANSSEN, 6 5 1 COLEBROOK LANE.
AND I AM A PARENT TO FOUR STUDENTS WHO ATTEND J-P-G-M-A.
AND I'M ALSO PART OF THE ROCKLAND COMMUNITY.
WE'VE BEEN THERE, PARDON ME, FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS NOW.
AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT PRIOR TO COMING BACK TO VIRGINIA, MY HUSBAND AND I WERE IN COLORADO AND WE MOVED BACK HERE SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS COMMUNITY IN FRONT ROYAL.
UM, WE SPECIFICALLY MOVED BACK HERE FOR ALL OF THE SCHOOLS.
AND WHEN J-P-G-M-A STARTED, IT HAS BEEN A DREAM FOR OUR KIDS AND THE FACT THAT THEY WOULD BE LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES AWAY FROM WHERE WE CURRENTLY LIVE.
I WOULD LOVE TO GIVE MY KIDS THE OPPORTUNITY TO WALK TO SCHOOL.
AND SO, UM, I JUST, WE LOVE J-P-G-M-A AND WE LOVE THE ROCKLAND COMMUNITY AND WE LOVE THE, EXCUSE ME, WE LOVE THE BEAUTY, AND I KNOW J-P-G-M-A WANTS TO PRESERVE ALL THE GOOD THINGS OF ROCKLAND.
I AM THE WARREN COUNTY COORDINATOR FOR ALLIANCE FOR THE SHENANDOAH VALLEY, WHOSE MISSION IS TO INFORM AND ENGAGE PEOPLE TO PROTECT THE NATURAL RESOURCES, CULTURAL HERITAGES, AND RURAL CHARACTER OF OUR REGION.
OUR VISION IS A SHENANDOAH VALLEY SUSTAINED BY FARMS AND FORESTS, CLEAN STREAMS AND RIVERS AND THRIVING COMMUNITIES FOR THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
WE AGREE WITH THE CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THESE CONDITIONS, SINCE WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE A APPLICANT THAT THEY DO NOT INTEND TO CONSTRUCT ANY ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS OR ADD-ON TO THE EXISTING BUILDING, THEN THIS INTENTION SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE CONDITIONS.
AS YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF MUCH COMMUNITY INTEREST AND CONCERN OVER THE PAST YEAR.
ROCKLAND IS AN EXTRAORDINARY PLACE WITH RICH HISTORY AND A STRONG AGRICULTURAL HERITAGE.
PERSONALLY, I AM STRUCK BY THE COMMUNITY'S STRONG COMMITMENT IN RETAINING ITS RURAL AND AGRICULTURAL HERITAGE.
THEREFORE, I BELIEVE THE COUNTY SHOULD TAKE EXTRA CARE WITH THE CONDITIONS OF THE PERMIT SO THAT THEY ARE CLEAR AND SPECIFIC.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO CRAFT CONDITIONS THAT ONLY ALLOW USES THAT ARE COMPATIBLE WITH ROCKLANDS RURAL CHARACTER AND THEY DO NOT PERMIT USES THAT ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH ROCKLANDS RURAL CHARACTER.
FOR EXAMPLE, I COULD IMAGINE THAT A NEW BUILDING SUCH AS A BARN FOR THE ANIMALS, UH, MIGHT BE NEEDED OR A SHED FOR GARDEN TOOLS OR AN ADDITION TO THE GOLF CLUBHOUSE COULD BE COMPATIBLE.
WHEREAS A CAMPUS OF RESIDENTIAL HOUSING FOR FACULTY AND BOARDING STUDENTS WOULD NOT BE COMPATIBLE.
UM, THEREFORE THE CONDITIONS MUST BE CLEAR AND DELINEATE EXACTLY WHAT IS PERMITTED EITHER AS A DETAILED CONCEPT PLAN OR, UM, IN A SPECIFIC CONDITION SO THAT THE PUBLIC AND COUNTY OFFICIALS CAN FULLY UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND IT WILL BE BINDING TO A HYPOTHETICAL FUTURE OWNER, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT THE INTENTION IS.
DO WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR THE, THE FUTURE AND THE THE WHAT IFS? UM, BECAUSE THE PERMIT DOES GO WITH THE LAND AND NOT THE APPLICANT.
UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CAREFUL CONSIDERATION.
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HI, MY NAME IS MIKE HORVATH.I LIVE AT 3 1 9 1 ROCKLAND ROAD.
UM, I'M HERE TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THE SCHOOL, UM, IN THEIR CONDITIONAL PERMIT.
UM, I DON'T HAVE KIDS AT THE SCHOOL, UM, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE SCHOOL PROMOTES A MONTESSORI FORM OF EDUCATION, WHICH IS WHAT I DO SUPPORT.
UM, MONTESSORI SEES THE CHILD, IT SEES THEIR DIGNITY AND THEIR WORTH AND, UM, AND ALL THEIR UNIQUENESS.
AND IT WORKS AND IT WORKS, WORKS TO BUILD THEM UP TO REACH THEIR FULL POTENTIAL IN THIS WORLD.
AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE CELEBRATED BECAUSE, UM, WE LIVE IN A DIVIDED WORLD WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THEIR OWN INTERESTS.
AND EVEN IF THAT MEANS BRINGING OTHER PEOPLE DOWN IN THE PROCESS.
UM, SO I THINK IF THESE STUDENTS HERE, UM, CAN GROW UP WITH THE MINDSET THAT THEY MATTER, THAT WHAT THEY, THAT WHAT THEY DO MATTERS, THAT EVERYONE HAS DIGNITY AND WORTH, AND THEY CAN BRING THAT MINDSET TO THEIR FUTURE JOBS, TO THEIR FUTURE FAMILIES, UM, TO THEIR COMMUNITY, THEN WE'RE GONNA LIVE IN A BETTER WORLD.
UM, AND I THINK IF WE CAN CONTRIBUTE IN THIS SMALL WAY BY GIVING THEM THIS SPACE, UM, TO CHANGE THE LIVES OF THESE STUDENTS, THEN WE SHOULD DO IT.
UM, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK BEYOND OURSELVES, LOOK A LITTLE MORE OUTWARD BEYOND OUR OWN INTERESTS AND, UH, SEIZE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, TO SERVE THE YOUTH IN THE FUTURE OF THE ROCKLAND, UM, AND FRONT ROYAL COMMUNITY.
I LIVE AT 6 9 4 BOWLING BLUE ROAD.
MY PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED PROPERTY.
IF YOU STAND IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL, I AM TO THE RIGHT.
I HAVE VERY LITTLE ACCESS BETWEEN MYSELF AND WHERE THEY HAVE STAKED OUT THE BOUNDARY.
IN FACT, HALF OF THE YARD THAT I'VE BEEN CUTTING FOR 28 YEARS I THOUGHT WAS MINE.
I FIND OUT BELONGS TO THE SCHOOL.
BUT I'M NOT GONNA BE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO SAY, I CAME HERE FOR THE BEAUTY, THEREFORE LEAVE ME ALONE.
I APPRECIATE WHY THE SCHOOL WANTS TO BE HERE.
MY CONCERNS ARE ONE, WHERE ARE THE ACCESS ROADS GOING? I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT BECAUSE THEY'RE LANDLOCKED WHEN HE SELLS THE OTHER PROPERTY, WHICH IN MY MIND MEANS THAT HE'S PROBABLY GONNA SELL IT OR ALREADY HAS.
BUT THAT'S IMMATERIAL AT THIS POINT, SINCE I HAVE VERY LITTLE EASEMENT BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINES THAT HAVE BEEN LAID OUT IN MY DRIVEWAY.
IF THEY PUT THE ROAD WHERE IT'S MARKED, I'M GONNA BE REALLY SHOVED UP AGAINST, THEY'RE GONNA BE SHOVED UP AGAINST MY DRIVEWAY, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.
I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE SCHOOL PER SE.
I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC.
THE WIFE AND I CAME OUT, STARTED COMING UP THE FRONT ROW FROM MANASSAS.
THAT'S A TERRIBLE PLACE TO BE FOR TRAFFIC,
YOU CAN REACH OUT AND TOUCH YOUR NEIGHBOR.
WE THOUGHT WE'D DIED AND GONE TO HEAVEN WHEN WE CAME UP HERE.
AND WE STARTED COMING UP IN THEIR MID EIGHTIES TO PLAY BECAUSE IN MANASSAS THEY ONLY HAD A FEW COURSES AND YOU HAD TO WAIT ON EACH ONE FOR AN HOUR OR SO JUST TO GET THROUGH.
SO WE SAID WHY NOT DRIVE AN HOUR IN PLAY? SO WE DID COME HERE ORIGINALLY FOR THE GOLF COURSE.
WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE IN 1989, BUILT IT, I SHOULD SAY WE BOUGHT IT IN 80 WHATEVER, 86.
BUT, UH, I'M NOT AGAINST THE SCHOOL, BUT I AM INTERESTED IN WHERE THE, THE, UH, EGRESS AND ENTRANCE AND EXIT'S GOING TO BE AND HOW CLOSE IT'S GOING TO BE TO MY DRIVEWAY.
I DON'T WANT TRUCKS, CONSTRUCTION SERVICE AND ALL THAT STUFF COMING BY THERE RUMBLING EVERY DAY.
AND I SEE I'M ABOUT OUT OF TIME, BUT I AM INTERESTED IN HOW MANY OUTBUILDINGS THEY'RE GONNA HAVE AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE FOR THAT SAME REASON.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO DID NOT SIGN ON THE LIST THAT CARES TO SPEAK OR, OR AGAINST
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EVENING? I'M, MY NAME IS MARIA O'BRIEN.I LIVE OFF OF MASS MOUNTAIN FARMS ROAD, UM, OUT IN THE COUNTY OF SIX 19.
THE, THE G-P-G-M-A OR JOHN PAUL, THE GREAT MONTESSORI ACADEMY, UM, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT HAS BEEN REQUESTED AGAINST THE GREATER BACKDROP OF OUR WARREN COUNTY COMMUNITY, IN WHICH OUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS WRANGLING WITH A BUDGET THAT NECESSITATES THE UNPOPULAR TAX INCREASES.
A VERY LARGE PORTION OF THE COUNTY BUDGET, AS YOU KNOW, IS TO FUND OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
ALL COUNTY RESIDENTS WHO OWN PROPERTIES SUPPORT THESE SCHOOLS FINANCIALLY BY DEFAULT.
YET THE SCHOOLS ARE AT CAPACITY.
WE SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO BUILD NEW SCHOOLS IN OUR COUNTY BUDGET YET WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF STUDENTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY WHO COULD ENROLL TOMORROW, AND WE WOULD SIMPLY NOT HAVE ANY WAY TO IMMEDIATELY SERVE THEIR NEEDS.
AS AMANDA SLATE NOTED, LOCAL PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND HOMESCHOOLERS TAKE A NOT INSIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THE BURDEN OFF THE COUNTY RESIDENTS AND THE COUNTY BUDGET.
UM, HAVING ATTENDED MANY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND TOWN COUNCIL MEETINGS OVER THE YEARS, I MUST SAY THAT OBJECTIVELY I'M VERY IMPRESSED BY THE DILIGENCE THAT J-P-G-M-A HAS TAKEN BOTH TO PREPARE THEIR PROPOSAL AND TO WORK WITH THE LOCAL RESIDENTS WHO MAY BE AFFECTED BY THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UM, UN OBJECTIVELY, I DO HAVE FOUR CHILDREN AT THE SCHOOL AS WELL.
AND EVEN THOUGH IT'LL BE A FARTHER DRIVE FOR ME, IT WILL BE WELL WORTH IT BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTIFUL SETTING THAT AS EVERYONE HAS TALKED ABOUT.
BUT JUST IN GENERAL, THINKING ABOUT THE COUNTY BUDGET, THE TAX INCREASES AND WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO, TO REALLY SUPPORT THE LOCAL PRIVATE SCHOOLS THAT ARE DOING THEIR BEST TO HELP EDUCATE OUR YOUTH.
AND, UM, ONE THING THAT'S WONDERFUL ABOUT J-P-G-M-A IS THAT THE CHILDREN ARE BEING EDUCATED, UM, IN A WAY THAT REALLY HONORS, UM, WARREN COUNTY HISTORY, UM, VIRGINIA HISTORY AND THE ROOTS AND TRADITIONS THAT WE HOLD DEAR HERE IN WARREN COUNTY.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I HOPE YOU'LL APPROVE THIS CUP.
ANYONE ELSE? JAMES
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF ROCKLAND AND CALLED IT HOME FOR OVER 25 YEARS, SO IT'S A VERY DEAR COMMUNITY TO ME, AND ME AND MY FAMILY WILL BE AFFECTED BY THE TRAFFIC.
UH, BUT I WANNA FIRST THANK THE APPLICANT FOR, AS WHAT HAS BEEN SAID BY OTHERS REALLY REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, HEARING CONCERNS.
ALSO, I'D LIKE TO, UM, WELL I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE, UM, UH, PASSING OF THIS, BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, REITERATE WHAT WAS SAID BY CHRIS ANDERSON ABOUT ADOPTING, UH, THE CONDITIONS PUT FORWARD BY OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR AND ALSO THE ONES THAT SHE SUGGESTED AS WELL.
HELLO, MY NAME IS FRANCESCA LLOYD.
I LIVE AT 1149 HAPPY RIDGE DRIVE.
I'M OBVIOUSLY, I GO TO THE SCHOOL AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, UM, MY TEACHERS HAVE TAUGHT ME EVERYTHING I KNOW AND I'D LOVE FOR IT TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHER KIDS TO BE ABLE TO COME AND LEARN WITH ME.
SO I JUST HOPE THAT EVERYBODY WILL BE ON BOARD WITH US MOVING INTO THIS PROPERTY SO THAT OUR WHOLE SCHOOL CAN GROW A LITTLE BIT BIGGER TO TEACH MORE STUDENTS ABOUT, UM, THE BEAUTIFUL THINGS OF LIFE.
AND I WILL SAY, I, GOING BACK TO MR. MA'S COMMENT, SPEAKING BEHIND THAT PODIUM CAN BE INTIMIDATING.
AND I THOUGHT YOU DID NEXT
MY NAME IS BRIAN CLOTS AND I DON'T DO WELL SPEAKING IN FRONT OF PEOPLE, BUT WE, UH, HAVE PROPERTY AT ONE 16 BOWLING VIEW ROAD AND WE JUST CAME HERE TO SEE THAT BECAUSE MY WIFE AND I PLANNED TO STAY HERE AND RETIRE AND NOT MOVE AWAY FROM THE AREA.
BUT, UH, SOMETHING WILL PROBABLY MOVE IN THERE.
SO OUR PROPERTY IS ON THE BACK.
UH, THE FAIRWAY, UH, WAS ON THE BACK OF OUR PROPERTY, SO FOR US, WE HAVE AN INTEREST IN, WE SOMETHING TO MOVE IN THERE, BUT THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH IT.
I DON'T THINK THEY'LL BE BAD NEIGHBORS.
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YOU.MY ADDRESS IS 1 3 5 MORRISON LANE.
UM, I GO TO THE SCHOOL, I'M IN EIGHTH GRADE.
UH, LIKE MY OTHER, THE OTHER STUDENT SAID THEY'VE, THE SCHOOL'S REALLY TAUGHT ME EVERYTHING I KNOW, AND IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL.
I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THAT EXPERIENCE WITH OTHER KIDS.
AND SO MOVING TO THE NEW PROPERTY WOULD MAYBE HELP TO INVITE NEW STUDENTS TO LEARN MORE.
ALSO, THE OUTDOORS WOULD GIVE EACH OTHER, WE COULD PLAY MORE WITH EACH OTHER AND GROW MORE TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY.
I'LL PASS ON THE SAME COMPLIMENT THERE.
AND I WILL SAY SOME CASUAL OBSERVATION.
IT APPEARS THAT THE SCHOOL'S DOING A GOOD JOB ON TEACHING PUBLIC
AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A THROWAWAY COMMENT.
WE HAD A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT FUTURE BUILDINGS, TRAFFIC CONCERNS.
WONDER IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT.
UM, I THINK RESPECTFULLY, UM, THE, THE POINT OF, UH, CONDITIONAL USE I NEED TO ADDRESS HERE AND WHAT THEY HAVE, SORRY, THE POINT OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS IT'S BASED ON CONDITIONS AND I BELIEVE WE'VE BEEN PRETTY CLEAR ON WHAT THOSE CONDITIONS ARE AND THE CURRENT PACKAGE.
AND I THINK THE PLANNING BOARD, MR. WENDLING HAS AGREED WITH THAT PACKAGE, AND I THINK IT'S PRETTY TIGHT AS IS AS, UH, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE OUTBUILDINGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AS, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN AGRICULTURAL PROPERTY ALREADY AND COMES WITH THOSE BY RIGHTS FOR, FOR, FOR AN AGRICULTURAL PROPERTY LIKE OUT BUILDINGS AND, UH, STUFF LIKE THAT.
WE HAVE NO PLANS, NO INTENTIONS OF THAT AT THE CURRENT TIME.
UH, I THINK RIGHT NOW OUR IMMEDIATE PLANS ARE, WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH THE BUILDING, REDO IT.
WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN TRANSPARENT ON THE TWO PITCHES.
UH, WE'RE GONNA IMPROVE THE SEPTIC.
WE'VE, WE'RE SHOWING THE TRAFFIC FLOW.
SO THAT IS OUR CURRENT PLAN RIGHT NOW.
WE DO BELIEVE IF WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO ANYTHING TO A LARGER SCALE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS TABLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND REQUEST THAT AGAIN.
SO I DO BELIEVE THE CURRENT PACKAGE IS, IS PRETTY TIGHT THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO I GUESS THAT'S OUR RESPONSE.
AND I MIGHT JUST MENTION THAT A REQUIREMENT OF THE CONDITIONS ARE THAT A SITE PLAN BE PREPARED AND SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY STAFF FOR REVIEW PRIOR TO THE SCHOOL GETTING GOING.
AND, UH, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY AT ANY FUTURE EXPANSION OR THOUGHTS OF EXPANSION, THEY WOULD WANT TO COME BACK TO US AND ADDRESS, UH, ANY KIND OF BUILDING PLANS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE.
AND THAT, THAT'S KIND OF A HARD NUMBER THERE.
SO, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IF THEY DO DECIDE TO SELL THE PROPERTY, DOES NOT GO TO THE NEW OWNER, CORRECT? UH, IT GOES WITH THE PROPERTY.
I, MY, MY MISTAKE THERE, JUST BY WAY OF EXPLANATION AND VIRGINIA ZONING DECISION ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE LAND USE RELATED, UH, REASONS NOT BASED ON A PARTICULAR PERSONALITY.
RESTRICTED TO AN INDIVIDUAL APPLICANT TYPICALLY ISN'T.
UH, AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS, I DO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY DID A TRAFFIC STUDY AND SHOWING THE INGRESS AND EGRESS.
I DID NOT SEE HOW CLOSE THAT WOULD BE TO MR. GA'S DRIVEWAY.
YOU KNOW, THE ONE WITH THE ARROWS COMING IN AND OUT.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED, BUT I CAN ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS IF YOU WANT ME AT THE MICRO HERE.
WELL, UM, I'LL, I'LL JUST MENTION, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY UNDER TO THE WEST RIGHT ON THE CORNER THERE? THE, WHERE WE SPOKE HERE THAT, YEAH.
UH, I WAS, AS HE WAS SPEAKING, I WAS TAKING SOME MEASUREMENTS ON THAT AND, UH, HE'S GOT A CORNER LOT.
SO PROBABLY WHY HIS HOUSE IS SO CLOSE TO THAT PROPERTY LINE IS, IS IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IT COULD BE A SIDE SETBACK VERSUS A REAR SETBACK OF 15 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
UM, WHEN I REVIEWED THE EXEMPT SUBDIVISION, OUR, OUR BASE REQUIREMENT IS, UH, A 20 FOOT PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT TO SERVE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEYOND THE EXISTING LOT.
UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, WELL, UM, THE PLAT SHOWED A 30 FOOT EASEMENT.
UM, AND SO HENCE WHEN WE DRAFTED THE CONDITIONS FOR THE PERMIT, UM, IT DOES ALLOW FOR REMOVAL OF THE TREES WITHIN THAT ACCESS EASEMENT IN ORDER TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, ACCESS TO THE PREVIOUS PROPERTY TO
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THE OTHER PROPERTIES.BUT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT, THE SCHOOL WOULD HAVE TO PUT REPLACE, UH, LANDSCAPING AS A BUFFER ALONG THE EDGE OF THE 30 FOOT EASEMENT.
SO, AND THEY COULD PUT IT AS CLOSE TO THAT EASEMENT LINE OR AS FAR FROM IT AS THEY CHOOSE.
BUT, UM, THE INTENT OF IT WOULD BE TO HAVE THAT CONTINUED BUFFERING BETWEEN, UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER ON THE CORNER AND, AND THE SCHOOL.
SO I, I COULD, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I CAN ADD TO THAT.
ONLY THING I CAN SAY IS I'VE KEPT HEARING PEOPLE ALLUDING TO SOMEONE IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, HAVING CONCERNS, MAYBE NOT BEING IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT THEY'RE NOT HERE TONIGHT.
UH, I BELIEVE WE HAD ONE LETTER, UH, IN OPPOSITION AND IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, MR. SWEENEY, HE SAID THEY DID REACH OUT TO THEM AND WE'RE ABLE TO, UH, RESOLVE THE CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD.
SO, UM, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT, UM, IF IT DOES GET MOVED FORWARD, UH, TO THE BOARD, UM, THOSE, ALL OF THE COMMENTS FROM ALL APPLICANTS WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE BOARD.
AND I KNOW YOU DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE WITH ADVERTISEMENTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANYTHING? OH, IN REGARDS TO, UH, THEY ARE ZONED AG ALL, HOW DO I WANNA DO THIS? WELL, FIRST OFF, ZONED AG, THERE IS A LOT OF BY RIGHT.
THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE THERE ALL JUST AS AG THAT WOULD NOT FIT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
ALL IT'S CURRENT AS FAR AS TRAFFIC AND THINGS LIKE THAT GO, YOU KNOW, IT'S CURRENT USE AS A GOLF COURSE, UH, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA GET A LITTLE MORE WEEKLY TRAFFIC AND IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A LITTLE MORE PEAK AT CERTAIN TIMES, BUT YOU WON'T HAVE THE WEEKEND TRAFFIC AND I DOUBT AS MANY PEOPLE WILL BE DRINKING, LEAVING THE SCHOOL AS THEY WERE THE GOLF COURSE
I WILL SAY THAT, UM, AS FAR IT, OH, THEY'VE INDICATED THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WANTS TO KEEP ITS CHARACTER PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY MIGHT NEED A LITTLE BARN OR SOME BUILDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IF, UH, HOW BIG A BUILDING ARE THEY ALLOWED OR HOW MANY, OR IS IT AG IF IT'S A BARN OR DO, DO YOU KNOW IF THEY HAVE TO DO AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE FOR ANYTHING? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE THEIR RULES CURRENTLY AS THE CE P'S WRITTEN? WELL, I'LL, I'LL ANSWER WHAT I KNOW AND IF CHASE WANTS TO JUMP IN, WE CAN DO THAT TOO.
BUT, UH, IN AN AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT, UH, YOU'RE NOT LIMITED TO THE AMOUNT OF, UH, UH, ACCESSORY STRUCTURES THAT YOU HAVE.
YOU JUST NEED TO MEET THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR IT.
NOW, UH, AS A PRIVATE SCHOOL, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO THAT, AND IT MAY BE THAT, UM, WE WOULD JUST WANT TO HAVE MAYBE CERTAIN DESIGN STANDARD OR SOMETHING, UH, THAT WE COULD PUT ON AS A CONDITION WHERE IT KIND OF MEETS THE RURAL RUSTIC LOOK TO THE AREA.
UM, AND IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL, WE HAVE, UH, SOME DESIGN STANDARDS IN A HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT FOR SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS.
AND CONSIDER THIS IS IN THE ROCKLAND AREA.
IT MAY BE THAT, UH, HAVING SOME, SOME SORT OF A DESIGN STANDARD FOR A STRUCTURE FOR ANY TYPE OF ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, MAYBE NOT A LIMITATION ON THE SIZE.
I MEAN, AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO BE BASED ON THEIR NEED, BUT, UH, CERTAINLY YOU COULD, I'M, I'M NOT SURE, BUT I THINK YOU COULD DO A SIZE LIMITATION ONE THAT IS A CONDITION, UH, YEAH, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING MATT SAID.
THE TYPICAL RULE FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS ONE IS AN ACCESSORY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A USE THAT IS SMALLER FROM THE PRIMARY USE, BUT TWO IS THE SORT THAT'S CUSTOMARILY INCIDENTAL.
SO HERE, UNLESS YOU ADD A CONDITION, STAFF WOULD BE ANALYZING THAT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
UH, AND MINOR BUILDINGS WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE PROVIDING THEY SATISFY THE REGULATION.
WOULD LEGAL CONSIDERED A HABITABLE BUILDING AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE? NO, WE'RE PRETTY RESTRICTIVE WITH RESPECT TO, UH, DWELLINGS.
AND I DON'T THINK A DWELLING WOULD FIT THOSE TWO GENERAL, WELL, NOT, NOT SO MUCH A DWELLING, BUT A CLASSROOM, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT AS FAR AS LIVING IN, BUT YOU KNOW, COULD THEY, HEY, I'M JUST GONNA BUILD A BUILDING HERE AND WE'RE GONNA OH, HEAT COOL IT AIR CONDITION IT.
WE'RE JUST BUILDING A SCHOOL BUILDING.
WILL THAT FALL IN UNDER AG EXEMPTION? YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS FOR THE USE HERE.
AND SO IF THAT USE EXTENDS BEYOND THE EXISTING BUILDING INTO A SECOND BUILDING, I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT WE WOULD NECESSARILY CONSIDER THE SECOND BUILDING AN ACCESSORY BUILDING.
IT WOULD BE A PRIMARY USE THAT OCCUPIES TWO BUILDINGS,
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SO THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK.NO, UH, ABSENT A CONDITION, THEY WOULDN'T NEED TO COME BACK TO THAT UNLESS THEY EXCEED THE 200 CHILD, UH, LIMITATION ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
YEAH, I I, I FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT THE, UM, THAT MR. MA, IT HAD SOME CONCERNS.
SOME 'EM, I DON'T REALLY THINK ARE JUSTIFIED, UH, WITH A 200 PERSON, 200 STUDENT CAP.
I MEAN, THAT'S GONNA LIMIT, LIMIT WHAT YOU NEED.
AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE TIMEFRAME MOVING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, 40 YEARS AGO IT WAS ROUGHLY A GOLF COURSE FOR 40 YEARS.
OH, I DOUBT THE CREATOR OF THE GOLF COURSE PROBABLY KNEW WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN FROM 40 YEARS FROM NOW.
AND, UH, TRUTH BE KNOWN, I PROBABLY WON'T BE HERE 40 YEARS FROM NOW
SO, AND, AND I GET THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE SITTING HERE WON'T BE, SO YOU WANNA PLAN AHEAD FOR THE NEXT GENERATION A LITTLE BIT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT CAN'T BE SO RESTRICTIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIDS WILL BE THE ONES THAT GO TO SCHOOL THERE.
THEY'LL BE THE BENEFACTOR OF THE NEXT GENERATION, NOT US.
SO, OH, I, I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
OH, BUT IN FAIRNESS, OH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DO A, YOU KNOW, IF IT, WE DON'T NEED TO BRING 'EM BACK IN FOR AN EIGHT TO EIGHT HEAD TO PUT A MOWER IN.
BUT IF IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, A WORKING BUILDING, YOU KNOW, OF A CERTAIN SIZE AND TOWER, UH, EVEN UNDER THE AG EXEMPTION, I WOULDN'T MIND TO SEE IT PERMITTED JUST FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, SAFETY, YOU KNOW, RESTROOM LIGHTING.
SO, UM, I'M COMPLETELY FOR THIS, UH, I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD GET IT OPEN BECAUSE IT IS A SCHOOL AND BECAUSE 20 YEARS FROM NOW, THEY MAY NOT BE HERE, YOU KNOW, SO IT IS WITH THE PROPERTY.
SO I WOULD, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORD IT, BUT I, AND HOW TO SIZE IT, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF CONDITION PUT IN THERE THAT IF THEY WANT TO ADD A NEW BARN, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A BAD IDEA AND I'D PROBABLY SUPPORT IT, BUT I THINK IT ALL TO COME THROUGH PROCEDURE AND PUBLIC HEARING AND NEIGHBORS SHOULD GET A CRACK AT IT, YOU KNOW, SEE HOW GOOD A NEIGHBORS THEY WERE AND YOU KNOW, DO WE WANNA BUILD A 40 BY 60 BARN AND UNDER AG EXEMPTION AND THEN IT'S FULL OF STUDENTS AND, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT BEING A DA CERTIFIED AND PROBABLY LIGHTED AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IS THERE A SIZE LIMITATION ON ACCESSORY BUILDINGS? THAT, WHAT, WHAT'S THE LIMIT ON ONE NEEDING A PERMIT? 'CAUSE THERE IS A SIZE UNDER CERTAIN SQUARE FOOTAGE, YOU DON'T NEED A PERMIT AT BUILDING INSPECTION.
WHAT IS THAT? NUMBER 2 56 IS, IS WHAT THE STATE BUILDING CODE DOES, UH, REQUIRES THAT, THAT THEY DON'T REQUIRE BUILDING PERMITS FOR 2 56 OR LEFT SQUARE FOOT.
THAT'S PRETTY SMALL, BUT THAT'S A TOOL SHED.
SO ANYTHING GREATER THAN THAT, IF IT WAS IN THE FLOOD PLAIN, OBVIOUSLY IT'D BE PERMIT HAVE TO BE PERMANENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE THOUGHT POTENTIALLY COULD BE, AGAIN, UM, WE REVIEW SITE PLANS ADMINISTRATIVELY FOR CONDITIONAL USE, PERMITTED, UH, LAND USES.
IF IT'S A BUYRIGHT USE, THEN THAT, THAT, UH, REVIEW GOES THROUGH STAFF AND THEN COMES TO YOU ULTIMATELY, UH, AS PLANNING COMMISSION TO GIVE FINAL APPROVAL FOR THAT.
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, SINCE IT'S BY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND WE DO HAVE A CURRENT CONDITION THAT A SITE PLAN WOULD BE PREPARED.
WE MAY REQUIRE THAT ANOTHER SITE PLAN COULD BE SUBMITTED.
BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S A MATTER IF YOU WANNA SEE IT AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO.
I THINK IN FAIRNESS, I, I DON'T THINK STAFF SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET TO MAKE THIS, 'CAUSE IN 40 YEARS YOU WON'T BE HERE EITHER
THERE IS LAND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IN A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD.
WELL, I THINK, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA GET A FEW BUILDINGS AND THEY NEED 'EM.
YEAH, THEY'RE GONNA NEED A BARN AND A GREENHOUSE.
BUT I, BUT I THINK IT, THAT IT OUGHT TO BE, YOU KNOW, WHERE DOES IT GO? WHAT'S IT GONNA LOOK LIKE? SO I THINK IT OUGHT TO, IT OUGHT TO, AND THEN BECAUSE IT IS A SCHOOL, IT'S NOT A FARM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT PAID EMPLOYEES OUT THERE WORKING ON CATTLE.
THEY'RE STUDENTS THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, BY GOING THROUGH BUILDING INSPECTION AND BEING TREATED AS A SCHOOL, IT WOULD CARRY A HIGHER SAFETY STANDARD.
MUCH OF THAT IS GONNA BE COVERED WITH, UH, THE BUILDING CODE AND MR. UH, MR. BEAM, THEIR BUILDING OFFICIAL WOULD REVIEW THAT FOR THE LAND USE, UH, IN THE BUILD WITHIN THE BUILDING CODE.
SO MUCH OF THAT WILL BE COVERED BY THAT.
FOR US, IT MIGHT BE A DESIGN STANDARD WHERE, WHAT DO YOU WANNA SEE FROM A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OR FROM THE ROAD, UH, YOU KNOW, A PREFAB METAL BARN OR SOMETHING THAT AESTHETICALLY MIGHT BE MORE PLEASING IN THE WAY OF A, YOU KNOW, A WOOD WOODEN BARN, THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY PUT THAT ON AS
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A CONDITION.I'M NOT ABSOLUTELY SURE WE HAVE THAT AS SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS IN OUR CORRIDOR OVERLAY.
NOW, WASN'T THERE TOO, ALONG THAT SAME LINE, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF, IF IT COME BACK HERE TO US, IF THEY DECIDE TO DO AN AMPHITHEATER.
'CAUSE I MEAN, YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GOING TO BE.
YOU KNOW, THE SOUND RADIATION.
UH, YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S, SO I GUESS, UM, IT APPEARS THAT THE COMMISSION WANTS TO ENTERTAIN A POSSIBLE ADDITIONAL CONDITION HERE, BUT I WOULD SEEK CLARITY ON, UM, WHETHER THAT CONDITION FUNCTIONS AS A, YOU KNOW, RESTRICTION THAT THEY, IT WON'T PUT ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS ABOVE A CERTAIN SIZE OR FOR A PARTICULAR USE, OR WHETHER YOU SIMPLY WANNA HAVE THEM COME BACK WITH A SITE PLAN SO YOU CAN SEE IT.
UM, I THINK IT JUST NEEDS TO COME THROUGH FOR A REVIEW.
I, I AIN'T SAYING THAT THEY CAN'T HAVE IT.
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE RESTRICTED IF THEY NEED A, YOU KNOW, IF THEY NEED A 40 BY 40 BARN TO PRODUCE A GOOD CLASS FOR WHAT THEY'RE TEACHING, THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED.
BUT, UH, IN AG WE CAN YOU BUILD THAT, WHAT, 15 FOOT OFF SIDELINE? UH, ACTUALLY 10 FOOT FOOT.
SEE, I DON'T SEE THAT'S, THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THAT GUY.
YOU CAN'T PUT THAT, YOU CAN'T BUILD A 40 BY 60 10 FOOT OFF OF SOMEONE'S PROPERTY LINE.
SO IT NEEDS TO BE SOME OVERSIGHT.
BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORD IT, BUT I'LL BE GLAD TO SAY IT IF YOU WRITE IT DOWN FOR ME.
SO
SO IF, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU ARE WANTING TO ACT ON IT THIS EVENING, WE COULD, UM, YOU KNOW, ADD A CONDITION THAT PROVIDES THAT REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL STRUCTURES.
PERHAPS ABOVE 256 SQUARE FEET WILL BE SHOWN ON A, YOU KNOW, RESUBMITTED SITE PLAN THAT WILL COME BACK TO YOU REVIEW.
'CAUSE I DON'T LIKE COSTING PEOPLE MOST OF IT LIKE
SO I THINK THAT OUR CURRENT CONDITION WOULD ALREADY ACCOMPLISH THAT BECAUSE IT, IT READS PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT.
SO THAT IS NOT JUST THE FIRST PERMIT THAT WOULD BE ANY PERMIT.
SO, SO ANY NEW BUILDING PERMIT THAT THEY GET, WE WOULD NEED A REVISED SITE PLAN REFLECTING WHATEVER IS, UH, YOU KNOW, REQUIRING THE BUILDING PERMIT.
IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK YOU ARE TECHNICALLY CORRECT.
IT WOULD BE BETTER TO BE A LITTLE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD BE INTENT OF THIS ONE WRITTEN.
AND SO IT WOULD BE BETTER TO BE A LITTLE MORE CLEAR WITH RESPECT TO THAT.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GRAPPLING WITH HERE IS THIS CONCEPT OF YES, THE CONDITION PROVIDES, THE SITE PLAN WILL BE SUBMITTED, BUT THAT SITE PLAN, YOU KNOW, ISN'T STATIC.
THAT SITE PLAN ITSELF ISN'T A CONDITION.
IT'LL, UH, ABSENT A CONDITION ON ADDITIONAL STRUCTURES, THEY'LL JUST COME BACK TO YOU WITH A NEW SITE PLAN AND IT MIGHT SAY, WE WANT TO BUILD A, YOU KNOW, NEW CLASSROOM OR A BARN AND YOU WON'T BE REVIEWING THAT FOR CAN YOU BUILD IT OR CAN YOU NOT? THAT WOULD BE A DETERMINATION THAT STAFF WILL MAKE REGARDING THE LEGAL ADMISSIBILITY.
YOU'D BE, UM, REVIEWING THE SITE PLAN FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND OTHER COUNTY CODES AND PERHAPS DESIGN IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO INCORPORATE THIS.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES.
DO YOU THINK WE CAN DO AN ORDINANCE, UH, A CONDITION TONIGHT? DO YOU THINK YOU CAN DO IT NOW OR, OR NOT? I, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE DO IT NOW.
ONLY BE, AND AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, NOT, THIS IS MORE SERVING THE APPLICANT.
THE APPLICANT IS ON A, UH, A DEADLINE, UH, IN A STUDY PERIOD.
AND SO THEY WERE HOPING TO HAVE IT MOVE FORWARD TO THE BOARD.
UM, I, IN LISTENING, UH, TO MR. JORDAN, I THINK WE COULD HAVE A MOTION THAT FOR ANY EXPANSION, PHYSICAL EXPANSION OF THE FACILITIES OF THE SCHOOL, A SITE PLAN WILL BE RESUBMITTED FOR REVIEW BY COUNTY STAFF AND THE PLANNING, UH, COMMISSION PRIOR TO BUILDING PERMITS BEING ISSUED.
IF YOU WANT ME TO, I'LL NEVER REMEMBER THAT.
IT'S FOR THE RECORD, IT'S ON THE RECORD.
IF THAT WORKS FOR MORE, MR. JORDAN.
UM, DO, DO WE WANNA HAVE A CARVE OUT FOR SMALL BUILDINGS? I WOULD HATE TO PUT A, A BURDEN ON THE APPLICANT THAT WANNA BUILD A SMALL POOL.
FOR ANY, FOR ANY STRUCTURE OVER 256 SQUARE FEET.
WITH THE RIGHT TO PUT A BUILDING EVEN 256 10 FEET
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FROM SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY.SO WE HAVE, AS I COUNTED, UH, FOUR HOMES THAT SURROUND THIS PROPERTY.
UM, YEAH, I MEAN, YOU COULD PUT A SETBACK REQUIREMENT FOR ANY, ANY ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SHALL BE, YOU KNOW, SO FAR FROM SYSTEM 50 FEET IF YOU WANT, OR A HUNDRED FEET, WHATEVER.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF LAND OUT THERE, SO RIGHT.
BUT THEY GOT, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO SQUEEZE 'EM INTO A MIDDLE OF A SINK, BUT THE OTHER 50, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT A HUSBAND, I UNDERSTAND FARM SHED BEHIND YOUR HOUSE.
I GOT ONE ABOUT 200 FEET FROM THERE.
WELL, THE, THE
UM, THEY HAVE THE 30 FOOT, UH, EASEMENT ALREADY THERE, SO YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BUILD WITHIN THAT EASEMENT.
SO THAT'S ALREADY IS ADDITIONAL OTHER, THE OTHERS OFF THE EASEMENT OR OFF THE PROPERTY LINE? OFF THE PROPERTY LINE, YEAH.
SO IT'D JUST BE 30 THEN IT, IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE OFF.
I, I THINK, NO, IT'S OFF THE EASEMENT, BUT TYPICALLY IT'S OFF THE PROPERTY LINE.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ACCESS EASEMENT? NO, WELL, IT'S GOT AN ACCESS EASEMENT, IT'S 30 30.
AND THEN IF, LIKE, IF YOU WERE BUILDING A NEW HOUSE, THE SETBACK IS NOT OFF THE PROPERTY LINE.
IT'S OFF THE EDGE OF RIGHT OF WAY.
WELL, IN THIS INSTANCE, THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY IS NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC ROAD OR SOMETHING.
I, I THINK LEMME HOLD THE, UM, BECAUSE IF, SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT 40 AND WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING.
I THINK THAT THE LIKELY ANSWER PULLING THE CODE NOW IS THAT 30 FOOT SIDE EASEMENT ACROSS THIS PROPERTY IS COEX WITH THE SETBACK.
MEANING IN PRACTICE THEY'VE GOT 30 FOOT SETBACK, WHICH IS THE EASEMENT.
I'M OKAY WITH 30 REALLY, BUT TIM'S TOO HIGH.
I MEAN, IF YOU WANTED TO PUT, I MEAN JUST FOR SAFE, IF YOU WANTED TO PUT A 50 FOOT FROM ANY, ANY PROPERTY LINE THAT COVERS BOTH THAT AREA THAT THERE'S AN EASEMENT AND ANY OTHER PROPERTY LINES ADJACENT AND, AND, UH, IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? I MEAN, THEY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO WALK PRETTY FAR TO GO BACK TO THE BACK OF THIS PROPERTY FOR A, FOR A STRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE LIKE THAT.
SO THE THOUGHT IS THEY WILL PROBABLY PUT IT CLOSER TO THE SCHOOL ITSELF.
CAN I ASK THE APPLICANT A QUESTION? PLEASE DO.
AW, THAT WOULD BE, YOU, YOU'VE HEARD ALL THIS TERRIBLE DISCUSSION WE'VE BEEN THROUGH.
IS THE APPLICANT COMFORTABLE WITH US, UH, LIMITING SET OR INCREASING THE SETBACK FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AND ALSO HAVE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES OVER 2 56 GO THROUGH A REVIEW PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THEY COINCIDE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THINGS? YEAH.
AND ALSO TOO, BACK TO MY POINT, IS AN AMPHITHEATER AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE OR SOMETHING ELSE? IF THEY'RE JUST SITTING IN THE GRASS? NO.
IF THEY BUILD A STRUCTURE OVER 2 56, IF THEY'RE DIGGING A HOLE, IF THEY'RE DIGGING A HOLE AND PUTTING BENCHES, THEN I DON'T KNOW.
BUT IT'S ALMOST, I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER GOT A PERMIT FOR THAT.
JAYCE DO
I KNOW THIS, THE LIBRARY WAS TALKING ABOUT ONE SCHOOL MAYBE, BUT FOR SOMETHING SO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
A NICE INTIMATE PLEASE SPEAKING AS APPLICANT.
SORRY, SORRY, PETER LAMB, CAN YOU SPEAK ON MY BEHALF PLEASE? YEAH.
IF HE'S PART OF THE APPLICANT.
IS THAT OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, PLEASE.
JUST A FEW YEARS OF LAND USE AND PLANNING FOR AS A LAWYER.
UM, WHAT I UNDERSTAND YOU ASKING, UM, VICE CHAIRMAN HENRY, IS THAT, IS THAT YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT BEFORE ANY ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS BUILT, IT'S BUILT WITH, WITH PERMITS SO THAT THE CODE IS, IS COMPLIED WITH.
I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU REALLY NEED IT TO, UNLESS I'M A MISUNDERSTANDING, COME BACK BEFORE YOU HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING TO HAVE A BARN BUILT.
I THINK YOU JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE.
IT'S NOT BUILT JUST LIKE AG STANDARDS AND THERE'S NO BUILDING PERMIT REQUIRED.
AM AM I HEARING YOU CORRECTLY? THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY, THAT'S PROBABLY GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.
OH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ADDITIONAL SETBACK, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA BUILD A 40 BY 60, 10 FOOT OFF THE NEIGHBORS WITH NO PERMIT, AGRICULTURE EXEMPT.
THEY PULL POWER TO IT AND THEN WHAT GOES ON INSIDE, NOBODY KNOWS.
AND THEN, AND THEN SAFETY THINGS ARE VIOLATED.
WE, WE COULD PUT IT ON AS A CONSENT ITEM ON YOUR, UH, PACKET FOR YOU TO REVIEW.
AND THEN IT WOULD JUST BE AS PART OF THE OVERALL, UH, UH, CONSENT AS A CONSENT ITEM.
YOU COULD ALWAYS PULL IT IF YOU HAD ANY CONCERNS IN REGARD, BUT WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, THAT WOULD BE AN APPROACH WE COULD TAKE, WHICH WE DO.
ONE IS I CONFIRMED THAT THE SIDE SETBACK DOES RUN FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
THE SECOND IS REALLY I THINK ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, IS A SLIGHT MODIFICATION OF THE LANGUAGE IN THE EXISTING CONDITION
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TOO, WHICH SAYS THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET SITE PLAN SHOWING WHERE THE STRUCTURES ARE GONNA BE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IF THERE ARE NEW STRUCTURES ABOVE 2 56 SQUARE FEET, THAT YOU'RE GONNA COME BACK NOT FOR A, A AMENDED TO THE S BUT JUST FOR A PRESENTATION OF A REVISED SITE PLAN.AND THAT SEEMS LIKE A MINOR TWEAK TO THAT CONDITION.
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO ADDING A, A 50 FOOT SETBACK.
WAS THAT THAT WAS OKAY WITH YOU? YES, THAT'S FINE.
WE'LL MAKE THAT A SECOND CONDITION OR ANOTHER CONDITION ON ITS OWN AND WE COULD DO THAT AND, UH, THAT WOULD GO TO THE BOARD THEN, UM, WE'LL ADDRESS THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR COMING AND SPEAKING TONIGHT.
UM, ESPECIALLY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF ROCKLAND.
UM, IT IS IMPORTANT TO HEAR YOUR VOICES.
UM, I THINK I PROBABLY ECHO THE SENTIMENT OF, UH, MOSTLY PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, AND AS A, UH, ONE OF YOUR NEIGHBORS IN ROCKLAND, UH, I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
UM, AND I THINK WE ARE JUST ABOUT, UH, IRONED OUT ALL THE DETAILS.
I'LL TRY, I'LL DO MY BEST HERE.
OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD THIS APPLICATION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST.
JOHN PAUL, THE GREAT ACADEMY FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL WITH THE CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED AND DISCUSSED, AND ALSO ADDING A CONDITION SEVEN WITH A 50 FOOT SETBACK OF ANY ACCESSORY STRUCTURES FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
IT WOULD BE FOR ON TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, I'M GUESSING IN ABOUT A MONTH, UH, MAY 7TH.
WE'VE ACTUALLY, UH, FAST TRACKED THIS, SO WE'LL BE ADVERTISED AND, UH, ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WILL BE NOTIFIED IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
WE'LL, WE'LL WAIT TILL THE ROOM CLEARS BEFORE NEXT ONE.
THE OLD EXPRESSION, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO HOME, BUT YOU CAN'T STAY HERE SITUATION NOW FOR ANYBODY EITHER TIME.
OKAY, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, LET'S PROCEED ON
[VIII.B. CUP2024-03-01 Joel Didriksen - A request for a conditional use permit for a Short-Term Tourist Rental. The property is located at 3017 Blue Mountain Road and identified on tax map 16A, section 1, block 1, lot 21. The property is zoned Residential-One (R-1) and located in the Blue Mountain subdivision and in the Shenandoah Magisterial District. - Chase Lenz, Zoning Administrator]
OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, CUP 20 24 0 3 0 1 JOEL DERICKSON, REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL.PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3 0 1 7 BLUE MOUNTAIN ROAD IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 16 A SECTION ONE BLOCK ONE LOT 21.
PROPERTY IS ZONED R ONE RESIDENTIAL LOCATED IN BLUE MOUNTAIN SUBDIVISION, THE SHENANDOAH MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT MR. LENS.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORTTERM TOURIST RENTAL FOR THE PROPERTY THEY PURCHASED IN APRIL OF 2020.
THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE PROPERTY AVAILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM LODGING FOR VISITORS OF THE WARREN COUNTY AREA WHEN THEY'RE NOT USING THE PROPERTY.
THE OWNER AND APPLICANT HAVE AN EXTENSIVE HISTORY OF HOSTING PROPERTIES FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN WASHINGTON DC USING THE AIRBNB PLATFORM AND PRIMARILY RESIDING IN DC.
THE APPLICANT HAS ENGAGED A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER TO SERVE THIS PROPERTY AS THE LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER.
UH, SO THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN BLUE MOUNTAIN.
AS YOU ARE PROBABLY AWARE, THERE ARE SEVERAL, UH, APPROVED PROPERTIES FOR SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTALS IN THE BLUE MOUNTAIN SUBDIVISION, AS WELL AS A FEW NON-CONFORMING, UH, GRANDFATHERED, UH, UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS IN THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE IS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT CONSTRUCTION PERMIT AND RECORD OF INSPECTION THAT APPROVES A MAXIMUM OF FOUR OCCUPANTS FOR THE TWO BEDROOM DWELLING.
THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN.
WE DID RECEIVE COMMENTS FROM THE BLUE MOUNTAIN POA BOARD OF DIRECTORS, UH, RECOMMENDING THE APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AND THE DWELLING MEETS THE REQUIRED 100 FOOT SETBACK FROM NEIGHBORING DWELLINGS WITH THE CLOSEST DWELLING LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 185 FEET TO THE EAST.
UM, SO, UM, AS FAR AS UH, RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS, UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING CONDITION NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND VIRGINIA STATEWIDE FIRE PREVENTION CODE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.
NUMBER TWO, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS SHALL NOT EXCEED THE SYSTEM CAPACITY AS DETERMINED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT PERMIT PER WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTION 180 DASH 56.4 B.
THE CERTIFICATE OF ZONING SHALL ONLY BE ISSUED WITH APPROVED HEALTH DEPARTMENT RECORDS.
THE NUMBER THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE WELL WATER TESTED ANNUALLY FOR E COLI AND COLIFORM BACTERIA, AND A COPY OF THE RESULTS SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING AND
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HEALTH DEPARTMENTS.NUMBER FOUR, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE SEPTIC SYSTEM INSPECTED ANNUALLY BY A STATE LICENSED INSPECTOR AND A COPY OF THE RESULTS SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING AND HEALTH DEPARTMENTS.
THE SYSTEM SHALL ALSO BE SERVICED EVERY FIVE YEARS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AND A COPY OF THE SERVICE INVOICE SHALL BE PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
NUMBER FIVE, THE DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS AND HUNTING ON THE PROPERTY BY GUESTS SHALL BE PROHIBITED.
NUMBER SIX, THE USE OF ALL TERRAIN VEHICLES BY GUESTS ON THE PROPERTY AND WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION SHALL BE PROHIBITED.
AND NUMBER SEVEN, OUTDOOR BURNING AND USE OF FIREWORKS BY GUESTS SHALL BE PROHIBITED.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
THE JASON PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US, OKAY.
HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, SIR? UM, MINUTES.
UH, JUST LIKE TO SAY, UH, YOU DO LEGALLY YOU DO NEED TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY GIRLFRIEND, UH, SHANNON BOYLE, MY PARTNER AS WELL.
WE LIVE IN WASHINGTON, DC AT 1200 FAIRMONT STREET, UM, IN NORTHWEST WASHINGTON, DC AND WE ALSO HAVE THE HOME AT 3 0 1 7 BLUE MOUNTAIN ROAD.
UM, WE'VE BEEN VISITING FRIENDS ON BLUE MOUNTAIN FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS, AND, UH, WHEN WE SAW THAT THE BLIGHTED PROPERTY NEXT DOOR TO THEIRS CAME UP, UH, ON FORECLOSURE, WE TOOK AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUY IT AND, UH, RENOVATE IT BACK INTO A LIVABLE CONDITION.
UM, AFTER RENOVATING THAT PROPERTY, WE ARE EXCITED TO ENJOY THE UNIQUE BEAUTY OF THE LOCAL AREA AND WOULD HOPE TO SHARE THAT WITH OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL.
WHILE OFFSETTING THE COST OF, UH, OWNING A SECOND HOME, WE'VE BEEN, UH, MY PARTNER AND I HAVE BEEN HOST FOR OVER 12 YEARS, HOSTING BOTH GUEST ROOMS IN OUR OWN HOME AND AN IN-LAW SUITE.
UH, WE'VE NEVER HAD A COMPLAINT FROM A NEIGHBOR AND OVER 1300, UH, STAYS FOR GUESTS.
AND, UM, THE LOCAL CARETAKER THAT HAS AGREED TO HELP WHEN WE'RE NOT ON THE MOUNTAIN IS THE DIRECT NEIGHBOR AND HE IS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE POA BOARD.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL OTHER FRIENDS ON THE POA BOARD AND WE ARE IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH THEM ABOUT ANY CONCERNS THEY HAVE OR THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL.
UM, AS WELL AS WE ARE CURRENTLY RENOVATING ANOTHER BLUE MOUNTAIN HOME IN THE SAME PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION, LESS THAN ONE MILE FROM THE PLACE FOR MY MOTHER, WHO IS 72 AND WILL PROBABLY LIVE THERE FOR UNTIL SHE PASSES.
SO WE'RE HEAVILY INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY AND LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ON BLUE MOUNTAIN AND SHARING IT WITH OTHERS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH WITH THAT PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
ANYONE CARE TO SPEAK THAT DIDN'T SIGN UP WITH THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
PLEASE MOVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARD THIS APPLICATION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST OF JOEL DICKERSON FOR A SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
GO FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
[VIII.C. CUP2024-03-02 Jennifer Wynn - A request for a conditional use permit for a Short-Term Tourist Rental. The property is located at 703 Sunset Village Rd. and identified on tax map 27D, section 1, lot 9A. The property is zoned Residential-One (R-1) and located in the Junewood Estates subdivision and the Fork Magisterial District. - Chase Lenz, Zoning Administrator]
PUBLIC HEARING, CUP 20 24 0 3 0 2 GEN JENNIFER WYNN, REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 7 0 3 SUNSET VILLAGE ROAD IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 27 D SECTION ONE LOT NINE A PROPERTY IS OWNED.R ONE RESIDENTIAL LOCATED IN JUNE WOOD STATE SUBDIVISION IN THE FORK MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT MR. LIS.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR SHORT-TERM TOURIST TRIAL FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ON BEHALF OF THE CURRENT OWNER WHO PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN MARCH OF 2022.
THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE PROPERTY AVAILABLE FOR SHORT TERM LODGING FOR VISITORS OF THE WARREN COUNTY AREA WHEN THEY'RE NOT USING THE PROPERTY PRIMARILY RESIDING IN STRASSBURG, THE APPLICANT WILL SERVE AS THE LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER.
UM, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN JUNE WOOD ESTATES SUBDIVISION.
THERE ARE SEVERAL CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTALS APPROVED FOR PROPERTIES IN THAT SUBDIVISION.
AND WE DID RECEIVE COMMENTS FROM THE JUNE WOOD ESTATES AND SUNSET VILLAGE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION STATING THE HOA DOES NOT OBJECT NOR RESTRICT THE, UH, PROPOSED USE OF THE PROPERTY AS A SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL.
THEY HAVE PROVIDED THEIR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THERE IS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT OPERATION PERMIT APPROVING A MAXIMUM OF SIX OCCUPANTS FOR THE THREE BEDROOM DWELLING.
UH, THE DWELLING DOES MEET THE A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACK REQUIREMENT FROM, UH, N FINISHED NEIGHBORING DWELLINGS, UH, WITH THE NEAREST FINISHED DWELLING LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 250 FEET TO THE NORTH.
UM, SO WE DID RECEIVE A, A LETTER FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT EARLIER TODAY, UM, OR AN EMAIL AND I PROVIDED COPIES TO YOU ALL.
UM, THERE IS AN ISSUE IDENTIFIED WITH SOME TREES PLANTED ON A DRAIN FIELD ON THIS PROPERTY
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THAT SERVES A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.SO THERE'S AN EASEMENT, UM, AND, UH, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS RECOMMENDING THAT A CONDITION BE ADDED FOR THE REMOVAL OF THESE TREES FROM THE DRAIN FIELD AREAS PRIOR TO, UM, FINAL APPROVAL, UH, WHICH WOULD BE THE CERTIFICATE OF ZONING FOR US.
UM, SO I DO ASK THAT YOU, UH, ADD THAT ON AS A CONDITION, UM, IF YOU AGREE.
OTHER THAN THAT, IT IS THE STANDARD CONDITIONS WE'RE RECOMMENDING IDENTICAL TO THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
JASON PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US.
ANYTHING YOU CARE TO ADD? HI, I AM JENNIFER WYNN, UH, 1 4 9 SOUTH FUNK STREET, STRASSBURG.
AND I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I DID TALK WITH ASHLEY AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TODAY.
WE'RE GONNA MEET THERE FRIDAY SO WE CAN CLEARLY IDENTIFY THE TREES THAT NEED TO COME OUT.
SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S 10, SO, UH, WE'LL BE, IT'LL BE RESOLVED BEFORE OUR NE BEFORE THE NEXT, UH, TOWN MEETING FOR SURE.
AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE DO CALL YOU AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED, SPEAKING OF WHICH IS NOW OPEN.
ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? ANYONE CARE TO SPEAK? PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
ONLY QUESTIONS I'VE GOT FOR YOU GUYS.
ARE, YOU'RE READY TO MAKE A MOTION? SO DO WE NEED TO ADD REMOVING THE, THE TREES JUST, UH, REQUIREMENTS, UH, RIGHT AS A BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AS AN ITEM EIGHT? YEAH.
OKAY, I'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION MOVES FORWARD THE APPLICATION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RE REQUEST OF JENNIFER WINE FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND TREES BE REMOVED FROM THE DRAIN FIELD.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? UNANIMOUS WILL BE FORWARD TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
[VIII.D. CUP2024-03-04 Jack Donohue - A request for a conditional use permit for a Contactor Storage Yard. The property is located at (0) Winners Ct. and identified on tax map 5, lot 11B. The property is zoned Industrial (I) and located in the Walker-Brugh subdivision and the North River Magisterial District. - Chase Lenz, Zoning Administrator]
OUR LAST PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT, CUP 20 24 0 3 0 4 JACK DONAHUE, REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A CONTRACTOR STORAGE YARD.PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN WINTERS COURT IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP FIVE LOT 11 B PROPERTY ZONED INDUSTRIAL AND LOCATED IN A WALKER BREW SUBDIVISION IN NORTH RIVER MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A CONTRACTOR STORAGE YARD FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WHICH HE'S CURRENTLY LEASING.
THE APPLICANT IS THE OWNER OF TIMBERWORKS STREET CARE, A LANDSCAPING HORTICULTURAL SERVICES BUSINESS, LOCATED ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AT 4 0 4 4 GRAND FAIRGROUND ROAD.
THE PROPOSED USE INCLUDES STORAGE OF LUMBER, MULCH, AND OTHER WOOD PRODUCTS, CONTRACTORS, EQUIPMENT, AND VEHICLES RELATED TO THE OPERATION OF THE ADJACENT LANDSCAPING BUSINESS.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY USED FOR STORAGE OF WOOD MATERIALS FOR THE ADJACENT LANDSCAPING BUSINESS, AND THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN FOR REVIEW.
UPON RECEIPT OF THE SITE PLAN PLANNING STAFF COMMUNICATED WITH THE APPLICANT THAT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A CONTRACTOR STORAGE YARD WILL BE REQUIRED PRIOR TO THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL, SINCE THE PRINCIPAL USE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS STORAGE OF TIMBER, UH, MATERIALS AND CONTRACTOR'S EQUIPMENT.
UM, SO I'LL JUST NOTE THAT THERE, THIS PROPERTY WAS ACTUALLY PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR CONTRACTOR STORAGE YARD BACK IN 2017.
THE LAND USE WAS NEVER ESTABLISHED AND AFTER TWO YEARS THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT EXPIRED.
UH, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY, UH, SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS OR A DEFINITION FOR THIS USE IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
UH, SO OUR, UH, RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS ARE BASED ON THE, UM, COMMENTS WE RECEIVED FROM VDOT BUILDING INSPECTIONS, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES.
UM, BEFORE I READ OFF THE CONDITIONS, UH, I DID HAVE TWO SHEETS OF THE SITE PLAN INCLUDED.
UM, JUST TO SHOW YOU THE OVERALL SITE PLAN, YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, UH, STORMWATER POND IS HERE ON THE, UH, SOUTHERN, UH, PART OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S A STORAGE YARD.
THERE'S NOT MUCH ON THE SITE PLAN.
UM, BUT IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT ONE, THIS IS THE LANDSCAPING PLAN.
THAT'S MOST OF WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO REVIEW FOR THIS SINCE THERE'S NO BUILDINGS OR ANYTHING GOING UP.
UM, AS FOR THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS, CONDITION NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS, WARREN COUNTY FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES, WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AND VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY APP, APPLICABLE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.
NUMBER TWO, A SITE PLAN SHALL BE PREPARED AND SUBMITTED TO THE WARREN COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT WITHIN 90 DAYS OF ISSUANCE OF THE CON CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
THE SITE PLAN SHALL INCLUDE INGRESS, EGRESS, STORAGE AREAS, OUTDOOR LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING SCREENING, AND OTHER ITEMS NECESSARY TO VERIFY COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
NUMBER THREE, ALL LIGHT FIXTURES SHALL BE FULLY SHIELDED AND SHALL COMPLY WITH WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTION
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180 DASH 49.2 FOR LIGHTING.THE SITE PLAN SHALL COMPLY WITH WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTION 180 DASH 49.1 REGARDING LANDSCAPING.
AND NUMBER FIVE, OUTDOOR STORAGE AREAS SHALL BE SCREENED FROM VIEW OF WINTER'S COURT AND FAIRGROUND ROAD WITH FENCING APPROVED BY COUNTY STAFF.
SUCH FE FENCING SHALL BE A MINIMUM OF SIX FEET IN HEIGHT AND MAY CONSIST OF CHAIN LINK WITH OPAQUE FABRIC COVERING SLATS OR SIMILAR ELEMENTS, UH, TO ACHIEVE VISUAL SCREENING.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I BELIEVE WE JUST RECEIVED ONE LETTER WITH A FEW CONCERNS ON IT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
AND THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US.
CARE TO ADD, UH, JACK DONAHUE, 3 59 RIDGEWAY ROAD, FRONT ROW, VIRGINIA.
UM, I REALLY DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO ADD.
AS CHASE SAID, WE'VE WORKED, I THINK IT'S BEEN SINCE BEGINNING OF 2022.
WE, WE DO HAVE, UH, DEQ STAMP PLANS READY TO GO.
UM, BASICALLY JUST NEED TO WORK THROUGH THIS AND GET THE, UH, FENCING INSTALLED AND BEING IN COMPLIANCE.
SO I, UNLESS ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS, I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO ADD.
I DON'T HAVE ANY AT THIS TIME.
WITH THAT PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL JUST MENTION ONE THING.
SINCE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN, I DID RECEIVE A PHONE CALL FROM, UH, JASON, PROPERTY OWNER, UH, WHO HAS A MOTOR FREIGHT TERMINAL.
UH, HE'S BEEN APPROVED FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, HAS, HAS BUILT UP MOTOR FREIGHT TERMINAL.
HE WAS, HIS MAIN CONCERN WAS THAT, UM, THE SOUTH BOUNDARY OF THIS PROPERTY, UM, WOULD BE ADEQUATELY SCREENED FROM HIS PROPERTY WITH, WITH FENCING AND OPAQUE FENCING.
AND, AND MR. MR. LENS HAS PUT THAT IN THE, AS A CONDITION.
SO, UM, WE'LL MAKE SURE TO LOOK FOR THAT IN THE SITE PLAN AND, AND, UM, SO THAT IT MEETS THAT REQUIREMENT AND THAT CODE RECOMMENDATION.
I JUST RESPOND TO THAT REAL QUICK.
UH, LET, LET ME GO THROUGH THE LEGALITIES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE CARE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED NOW.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, SIR? SORRY ABOUT THAT, BUT LEGALLY IT'S WHAT I HAVE TO DO TO BLAME HIM.
YEAH, MIKE MANUEL AND WE SPOKE, UM, I THINK WHAT THREW HIM OFF THE MOST WAS THAT IT'S ADVERTISED AS A CONTRACTOR STORAGE YARD.
AND WHAT HE'S KIND OF BEEN TOLD BY ME IS A MULCH YARD.
SO, UH, BUT YEAH, THERE'LL BE A FENCE THERE AND I GET ALONG GOOD WITH MIKE, SO WHATEVER HE NEEDS, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.
I'LL JUST MENTION THE FIRE RESCUE.
UM, THEY DO HAVE STANDARDS FOR HOW HIGH THESE BULK PILES ARE AND HOW CLOSE THEY'RE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO WE'LL CERTAINLY MAKE SURE THAT THEY, UM, HAVE DONE A REVIEW OF THE SITE.
THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT JUST YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT A FEW YEARS AGO AND IT WAS KIND OF COMING UP AND YOU WORKING ON IT TOGETHER.
SO WE'LL BE GLAD TO SEE THIS MOVE THROUGH AND, UH, OKAY.
NOW, I'M SURE YOU'LL DO A GOOD JOB WITH ALL THE DUE DILIGENCE AND EVERYTHING INVOLVED, BUT I HAVE SEEN MULCH YARDS CATCH ON FIRE BEFORE
WHAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE? ON MANUEL'S PLACE? WHAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE FENCE FROM HIM? UH, FERGUSON.
AND, AND THEY WANT SCREENING AND BUFFERING FROM BETWEEN HIM AND FERGUSON.
YEAH, BECAUSE FERGUSON SHOWED, DID HE GET THAT SPOT OF SEATED THERE THAT HE WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT WHERE THEY HAD HIM ALL HELD UP THAT LITTLE PIECE OF GRASS FOR 2 CENTS? I'D CALL HIM TOMORROW AND ASKED HIM WHAT HE WANTS SCREENING FOR.
HE CAN'T GET THE GRASS TO GROW ON HIS SIDE.
IF YOU SEE HIM, TELL HIM I SAID THAT.
HE'LL PROBABLY CALL ME IF HE SOMEBODY TELLS HIM ABOUT IT TOMORROW.
IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THIS APPLICATION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST BY JACK DONAHUE FOR CONTRACTOR STORAGE YARD WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
HAVE IT TO BE FORWARDED TO THE BOARD.
AND WE ARE THROUGH WITH PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THIS MEETING.
[IX. Consent Agenda]
NEXT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR THE AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE FOR NEXT MONTH BACK A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE CO CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.OPPOSED CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED.
[X. Commission Matters]
MATTERS.MR. WENDLING, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
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2 0 2 4 CHAPTER UPDATES AND PLANNING RELATED ITEMS.WE WILL TAKE SOME OF THOSE NOTES AND, UH, GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND, AND, UH, ADD, MAKE SOME OF THOSE CHANGES.
AND I HOPE THAT, UH, WE CAN COMPLETE, UM, CHAPTER FOUR.
WE WILL HAVE A, WE HAVE A ROUGH DRAFT OF ONE.
WE'LL DO A GOOD DRAFT OF ONE, TWO, AND MAYBE A ROUGH DRAFT ON FOUR.
COMPLETE THAT AND MAYBE EVEN GET SOME INFORMATION TO YOU ON THE CHAPTER SIX FOR EDA.
ONCE, UH, WE GET SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS FROM, UH, MR. UH, MR. PETTY.
AND THEN, UH, KIND OF ALL ALONG WE WILL TRY AND THINK OF, UM, OUR, UH, GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FOR EACH OF THOSE CHAPTERS.
UH, THAT KIND OF GOES HAND IN HAND.
YOU REMEMBERS THIS 'CAUSE HE, HE LEARNED IT AT HIS, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION TRAINING.
I REMEMBER HIM COMING BACK AND SAYING, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT IN OUR PLAN.
DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? HE SAID HE, YOU KNOW, DID ANYBODY BRING A COPY OF THEIR PLAN? AND I WAS LIKE, YEAH.
AND HE AND HE POINTED THAT OUT.
MR. CHANDLER SAID, CLASS AND READ THIS AND IT NEEDS THAT.
HE WAS VERY COMPLIMENTED OF OUR PLAN.
YEAH, HE, YEAH, HE LIKED IT, BUT HE SHOT A FEW HOLES IN IT AND I BROUGHT IT BACK TO TARYN.
SO, UH, SO IT'S A GOOD PLAN OVERALL, I THINK WE'RE JUST BASICALLY BRINGING IT UP TO WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.
WE'VE LEARNED A LOT IN THE PAST YEAR OR SO ABOUT SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, PRESSURES THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE OUT IN THE CORRIDOR.
SO, UM, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT AND, AND, UH, CERTAINLY SOME OF THE HOUSING ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY AS BEST WE CAN THROUGH OUR, THROUGH THE PLAN.
SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THAT IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR EXTRA HOUR OF TIME, YOU KNOW, TO MEET WITH US.
WILL YOU GOT ANYTHING? NOTHING FOR ME.
UH, SO CHAPTER FOUR, WE HAVE, IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH TO READ AND KEEP THAT FOR NEXT MONTH? UM, YEAH, IT'S ACTUALLY HALF OF IT'S, I THINK, WHAT ABOUT A HALF? IT'S UP TO PAGE 11 FOR CHAPTER FOUR.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF IT.
I JUST GOT THAT FAR IN, IN REVIEW.
KELLY'S PRETTY MUCH GOING THROUGH ALL OF IT, BUT WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, KIND OF FINE TUNE IT.
WE'LL GET THE BALANCE OF IT TO YOU BEFORE NEXT MEETING WITH A LITTLE BIT OF HEAD HEADS UP, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE AHEAD OF TIME.
AND THEN IF WE HAVE, UM, SIX, UH, OR ANY PART OF SIX, WE CAN GET THAT TO YOU ALL.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE, WE JUST WANNA KEEP IT AT ABOUT A 45 MINUTE WORK SESSION.
I THINK THAT GIVES US ENOUGH TIME TO KIND OF DIGEST IT AND, YOU KNOW, TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
SO WE WILL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE IT WITH A LITTLE BIT EXTRA TIME THOUGH.
AS FAR AS ME, THE SOLAR ECLIPSE HAS CAME AND GONE.
THEY'RE SAYING THE NEXT ONE IS GONNA BE IN 20 YEARS AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OUR OWN MORTALITY UP HERE EARLIER.
I'LL BE 88 AND I PLAN TO SEE IT.
YOU GOT ANYTHING ELSE
OF COURSE, IT'S BEEN 12 YEARS AGO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, HOWEVER LONG IT'S BEEN.
OH, THERE WAS A FAIR NUMBER OF MUNICIPALITIES THAT DID NOT HAVE A WRITTEN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THAT, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, BACK THEN WE HAD ONE WHICH WAS A PLUS OVER SOME OF THE PEOPLE.
I WENT TO CLASS AND THEN THEY ACTUALLY SAID WE HAD A PRETTY DARN GOOD ONE.
SO, UH, BEFORE ME, SOMEBODY DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB GETTING HERE AND I HOPE I CAN YEAH, GIVE, KEEP IT GOING.
I MEAN, WE'VE HAD FOR PRETTY, UH, OUR, OUR PREVIOUS STAFF AND COLLECTING OFFICIALS ESPECIALLY, IT IS OUR GUIDE AND WITH, YOU KNOW, THINGS YOU SEE FROM PRESSURE AND EVERYTHING COMING OUT.
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TELL EVERYONE WHAT OUR GUIDE, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR ENVISION OUR GUIDE IS.
I MEAN, I CAN'T, I CAN'T SEE HOW YOU COULD OPERATE WITHOUT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND, AND FOR HOMEWORK FOR MS. RICHARD.
YES, I WAS GETTING READY TO SAY YES.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING TO HELP SAVE SOME OF OUR AGRICULTURE LAND IS ACTUALLY ADD, UH, LIKE AGRITOURISM INTO LIKE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I PULLED A FEW, UM, COUNTIES, SURROUNDING COUNTIES THAT ACTUALLY HAVE A REALLY STRONG AG.
UM, SO I'M GONNA PRINT 'EM OUT AND THEN THERE ARE, THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, WHO ARE ALSO INTO AGRICULTURE, HAVE FARMS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, WORKING FARMS
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THAT, UM, WE MIGHT TRY TO, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING ABOUT SETTING UP A MEETING TO ALLOW OR IS THAT SOMETHING I COULD SET UP ON? HOW, HOW DO YOU WANNA WORK IT? WE COULD, WE COULD DO, UH, I MEAN IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SET SOMETHING UP AND COME IN, WE'D BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THE WORK.GET SOME DATES FOR US AND KELLY AND MYSELF.
I'LL PUT, PUT SOME FEELERS OUT AND SEE, GET EVERYBODY THAT, UM, HAS A VOICE THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, SPEAK FOR IT.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT THERE IS A NEW FARMER'S MARKET THAT IS OPENING UP ON MAIN STREET.
JUST LET EVERYBODY KNOW IT'S COMING BACK AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, SO THAT, THAT AND, AND, UH, AND, AND MR. HENRYS PART OF THE WORLD POTENTIALLY MAYBE MAKE THE CASE FOR SOMETHING YOU SHOULD HAVE, UH, BACKS AND POTENTIALLY, UH, POTENTIALLY IMPACT, UH, THE 75 FOOT PERSON.
WHICH CHAP, WHICH CHAPTER DID YOU SAY THAT PERTAINED TO? WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT.
UH, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE CHAPTER, MAYBE CHAPTER TWO.
I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT TODAY.
I'LL TAKE A WALK, BUT, UH, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S WHERE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A CONCERN.
THEY, THEY PUT IN SOME PRETTY RESTRICTIVE LANGUAGE.
THE, THE PROBLEM THAT THE, UH, THE OLD MOUNTAIN SUBDIVISIONS WERE BUSTED UP IN SO SMALL LOTS THAT THEY WERE LIKE SUPPOSED TO BE CAMPING LOTS.
SO BEING, THEY WERE ALREADY SUBDIVIDED, YOU COULDN'T DO A ZONING ORDINANCE TO FIX IT.
SO BASICALLY THEY USED, UH, HEALTH AND SAFETY CODES, YOU KNOW, BY MAKING US MORE STRINGENT IN THE STATE MINIMUMS, ADDITIONAL WELL SETBACKS.
UH, AND IT'S PROBABLY SERVED US WELL, BUT IT, FOR WHAT'S LEFT, UH, TO, TO, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, I CAN STILL GET THE HOUSE AND MEET ALL THE SETBACKS AND FIT IT ON THIS LOT, BUT ENVIRONMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT IS MUCH GREATER.
AND THEN MAYBE THE HOUSE IS DOWN OVER A CLIFF AND EVERYTHING, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT IT ON CA CAD, IT'S A FLAT PIECE OF PAPER, SO, OH, WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE CODE TO WHERE WE CREATE A THOUSAND NEW LOTS.
THAT THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE GOAL HERE.
IT'S, IT'S HOW YOU FINISH OUT WHAT'S LEFT TO MAKE IT BETTER.
THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM THERE AND UH, AS I SAID, UM, I'VE ADDED SOME LANGUAGE INTO, UH, ACCESSORY DING UNITS TO CONSIDER THESE THINGS.
YEAH, I REMEMBER ONE TOO WHEN I WAS ON THE TOWN PLANNING COMMISSION, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DEALT WITH HERE IN TOWN WAS THERE SOME OF THE OLDER SUBDIVISIONS WHERE THAT SOMEBODY HAD THE BRIGHT IDEA WHEN THEY DIVIDED IT, MAKE IT SMALL LOTS AND YOU ORDER TO BUILD YOUR HOUSE.
NO PEOPLE TURNED THE HOUSE 90 DEGREES AND YEAH.
SO YOU, YOU GOTTA HAVE SOME OVERSIGHT THERE, BUT I, I THINK WE COULD DO SOME THINGS TO ACTUALLY IMPROVE IT.
WE HAVE BEEN DILIGENTLY WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES TO MAKE IT EASIER ON EVERYBODY TO REPORT ISSUES WE HAVE WITH SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTALS.
I HAVE PROVIDED YOU ALL WITH A COPY OF OUR NEW BUSINESS CARD ON ONE SIDE.
ON ONE SIDE THERE IS THE GENERAL CONTACT INFORMATION, PHONE NUMBER, EMAIL.
AND ON THE REVERSE IS THE QR CODE THAT WILL TAKE YOU DIRECTLY TO THE COMPLAINT FORM.
THOSE WILL NOW AT EVERY MEETING BE ON THE SIGN IN TABLE.
SO IF WE EVER HAVE SOMEONE COME UP AND SAY, YOU KNOW, ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING ISSUES WITH A SHORT TERM TOURIST RANDALL, YOU CAN NOW TELL THEM, PLEASE GO TAKE ONE OF OUR CARDS AND IF YOU HAVE A COMPLAINT, USE THAT TO CONTACT US.
SEE, I'M SITTING HERE TRYING TO THINK HOW I CAN HAVE SOME FUN WITH THIS AND NOT TOO MUCH THAT, THAT IS THE CITIZEN SURVEY.
HOW, HOW ARE WE PUBLISHING THIS OR GETTING IT OUT? UH, MATT
WHAT'S THE DUE DATE WEBSITE? WHAT'S THE DUE? THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UH, THE CITIZEN SURVEY, WELL, THERE'S NO DUE DATE ON THE CITIZEN SURVEY.
OKAY, WELL WHAT'S THE CUTOFF? THERE'S NO CUTOFF THAT THE REASON, HERE'S THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE ORIGINALLY IT WAS ISSUED 2018.
ANYTHING THAT THE CITIZEN PROVIDE TO US, IT'S JUST GONNA BE ADDITIONAL ACCESS TO WHAT? OR WE WE'LL, OKAY, WE'LL INTO CONSIDERATION.
UM, IT'S NOT A FORMAL, LIKE WE GOT
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A DEADLINE TYPE SURVEY BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTA WORK WITH THIS COUNTRY, WE'VE GOTTA CONTINUE MOVE THROUGH.BUT ANY, ANY CITIZEN, UH, INPUT IS HELPFUL.
YEAH, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF, BECAUSE WE COULD PUT THIS IN OUR NEWSLETTER THAT GOES OUT.
BUT IF IT HAD A DUE DATE EARLIER THAT OR CUTOFF DATE.
YEAH, I MEAN, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS SO WE'LL ADDED.
WOULD YOU LIKE A COPY OF THAT QR CODE FOR YOUR NEWSLETTER? I CAN SEND YOU A, A BIGGER ONE? YEAH.
IN WHATEVER FORMAT I NEED TO BE ABLE TO, IT, IT'LL BE AN IMAGE FORMAT.
GOING THROUGH AND THOUGHT I HAD EVERYBODY.
JORDAN, YOU GOT ANYTHING? NO, SIR.
HE IS AN ATTORNEY, RIGHT? YEAH.
WITH THAT WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
A I DON'T NEED A VOTE FOR THAT ONE.