May 07, 2024 Board of Supervisors Meeting

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.

THANK YOU, SIR.

OH, PLEASE STAY UP, UH, FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I APOLOGIZE.

ALLEGIANCE TO FLAG IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD AND LIBERTY OF JUSTICE.

[C. Adoption of Agenda — Additions or Deletions]

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THE ADDITION UNDER NEW BUSINESS OF THE 20 24, 20 25 UNITED HEALTHCARE INSURANCE RENEWAL.

IS THERE A SECOND TO ADD THIS TO OUR AGENDA? SECOND ROLL.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER ADDITIONS OR ANY DELETIONS? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA, UM, WITH THE, UM, NEW ITEM AS OF AMENDED? MADAM CHAIR.

SO MOVED.

IS THERE SECOND? SECOND.

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, WARREN COUNTY STORM READY DESIGNATION.

[D. National Weather Service Warren County Storm Ready Designation - Brian Foley]

AND MR. FOLEY FROM WARREN COUNTY FIRE AND RESCUE.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF, OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

UM, IN EARLY 2023, UH, WE BEGAN WORKING WITH THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TO MAKE WARRING COUNTY A STORM READY COUNTY.

AND SOME OF THE CRITERIA THAT WAS, UM, THAT WE HAD TO WORK THROUGH TO, TO GET THIS HONOR, UH, WAS MAKING SURE WE HAD 24 HOUR, UH, EXCUSE ME, I CAN'T EVEN SEE.

24 HOUR WARNING POINT IN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, WHICH WE ALREADY HAD.

UH, WE NEEDED TO CREATE A SYSTEM THAT MONITORS WEATHER CONDITIONS LOCALLY.

AND WE DID THAT WHEN WE GOT A, UH, GRANT FOR A WEATHER STATION THAT'S AT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING.

THEN ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT, UM, WE DID WAS WE HAD A EDUCATIONAL SEMINAR WITH, UH, THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE COMING OUT TEACHING THE BASIC SKY

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WORN AND THE WINTER SKY WORN, UH, CLASSES THAT, UH, MADAM CHAIR YOU ACTUALLY HAVE ATTENDED YOURSELF.

AND WE WERE ALSO ABLE TO, UH, PUT WEATHER RADIOS IN ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS.

SO WHEN THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SENDS OUT, UH, A WEATHER WARNING, THE SCHOOLS AUTOMATICALLY WILL GET IT.

UM, AND IT JUST HELPS US BE PREPARED, UH, WITHIN THE COUNTY.

UM, SO LUCKILY BACK IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CAME OUT, UH, OR PREVIOUSLY CAME OUT, REVIEWED ALL OF OUR, THE CRITERIA THAT WE NEEDED TO MEET TO MAKE SURE WE MET IT.

UH, AND THEN THEY ARE APPROVED OUR COUNTY AS BEING STORM READY.

UH, SO I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UH, CHRIS STRONG WITH THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING.

THANKS, BRIAN.

GOOD EVENING, UH, BOARD IN WARREN COUNTY.

I, I WORK FOR THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICE.

IT DOES THE WEATHER WARNINGS FOR THE AREA HERE.

AND STORM READY IS REALLY ABOUT CONNECTING US WITH THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE AS WE KNOW HERE, WE, WE GET EVERY KIND OF WEATHER THREAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY IMAGINE AT DIFFERENT TIMES.

AND IT'S ONE THING TO FORECAST IT, IT'S ANOTHER THING TO GET IT TO THE COMMUNITY, TO HAVE THEM RESPOND APPROPRIATELY TO BE READY FOR IT.

'CAUSE IF WE'RE READY FOR DISASTERS, WE'RE READY FOR ALL THESE HAZARDOUS WEATHER EVENTS.

IT TURNS OUT SO MUCH BETTER, SO MUCH LESS IN THE WAY OF IMPACT, LESS CHANCE OF FATALITIES, LESS CHANCE OF, UH, UH, ECONOMIC IMPACT.

SO IT, IT'S REALLY JUST ALL ABOUT BEING READY AS A, AS IN THE NAME.

AND THIS IS A NATIONAL PROGRAM THAT STARTED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY AND TOOK OFF LIKE, LIKE WILDFIRE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A GRASSROOTS EFFORT THAT JUST MAKES SENSE.

CONNECT THE WEATHER SERVICE WITH THE COMMUNITIES.

SO OUR WEATHER WARNINGS, OUR INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AT OUR OFFICE GETS WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, UH, SO EVERYONE CAN STAY SAFE FROM ALL THE WEATHER THREATS THAT WE HAVE.

SO, BRIAN'S DONE A LOT OF GREAT WORK, UH, TO CONNECT US WITH, WITH THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT WITH WEATHER RADIOS IN THE SCHOOLS AND OTHER WAYS TO MAKE SURE WEATHER WARNINGS GET TO THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT INFORMATION FROM THE COUNTY IS GETTING BACK TO US TO MAKE SURE THERE'S TRAINING, UH, WE HAVE CLASSES, THINGS LIKE THAT FOR THE CITIZENS HERE.

SO IT'S JUST, IT'S A GREAT, UH, EFFORT TO CONNECT, UH, THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WITH EVERYONE HERE IN WARREN COUNTY AND KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE FROM ALL THE HAZARDOUS WEATHER EVENTS.

SO I'M HERE TO RECOGNIZE, UH, BRIAN FOLEY AND, UH, THE COUNTY FOR ALL OF THE GREAT WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE HERE TO, TO ENSURE THIS, UH, WILL NEVER BE STORM PROOF.

BUT BEING READY FOR THESE EVENTS, UH, WILL GO SO MUCH IN THE WAY OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND, UH, KEEPING US SAFE FROM THESE HAZARDOUS WEATHER EVENTS.

SO, UH, WE DO HAVE TWO STREET SIGNS FOR THE COUNTY THAT, UH, THAT'S ONE RIGHT THERE THAT WE'RE PRESENTING AS WELL AS A CERTIFICATE, UH, FOR STORM READINESS FOR WARREN COUNTY, VIRGINIA.

THAT'LL PRESENT TO, UH, TO BRIAN IN THE COUNTY HERE.

BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, THE TIME AND EFFORT TO DO THIS AND I'M GLAD TO BE HERE WITH YOU ALL THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE.

AND THANK YOU MR. FOLEY FOR, UM, GETTING THAT ALL TAKEN CARE OF.

I ENJOY TAKING THE CLASSES AND, UH, VERY INFORMATIVE.

SO, ALRIGHT.

UH, WOULD YOU ALL BE SO INCLINED TO COME DOWN US? TAKE A A PICTURE? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

PUBLIC COMMENT, PERIOD.

THAT IS A 60 MINUTE TIME PERIOD WHERE EACH SPEAKER CAN SPEAK FOR ONE TIME FOR THREE MINUTES.

ALL COMMENTS WILL BE DIRECTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, NOT TO THE AUDIENCE.

BE CONSIDERATE OF YOUR FELLOW SPEAKERS.

THERE SHOULD BE NO CLAUSE BOOING OR OTHER AUDIBLE DISRUPTION TO THE PROCEEDINGS.

THROUGH A SHOW OF HANDS, THE CHAIRMAN MAY ASK FOR A SHOW OF SUPPORT FOR COMMENTS MADE BY SPEAKERS.

SLACKERS, POSTERS AND OTHER MEANS OF VISUAL DISPLAY OF COMMENTS WILL NOT BE PERMITTED IN THE BOARD MEETING ROOM.

THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE INFORMATION OR MATERIALS USED AS PART OF A FACTUAL PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD.

THE BOARD WILL NOT TOLERATE PERSONAL ATTACKS ON ANYONE, ON ANY OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROCEEDINGS.

ANYONE VIOLATING THE GUIDELINES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE ASKED TO LEAVE BY THE CHAIRMAN.

SO, MR. HENDERSON, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP? FIRST UP, WE HAVE, UH, FERN VASQUEZ.

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GOOD EVENING.

NAME AND, UM, JUST THE DISTRICT YOU LIVE IN, PLEASE.

MY NAME IS FERN VASQUEZ AND I LIVE IN THE HAPPY CREEK DISTRICT.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU, TO EXPRESS TO YOU A POINT OF VIEW THAT I HAVE.

SO I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT A BATHROOM, MORE SPECIFICALLY, A PUBLIC BATHROOM AT EASTON PARK.

I GO TO THE PARK DAILY.

I'M THERE USUALLY TWICE A DAY TAKING A WALK.

SO, UH, I CAN SAY THAT I FULLY ENJOY THIS PIECE OF LAND THAT HAS, THAT SOMEONE BEFORE ME PLANNED AND NAVIGATED ALL THE, THE HURDLES TO GET TO.

UM, I WOULD TO SAY THAT EASTON PARK IS A FIRST CLASS PARK IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT.

ITS BEAUTY IS KNOWN FAR AND WIDE.

THERE ARE THE REGULARS LIKE ME, BUT I'VE ALSO ENCOUNTERED MANY PEOPLE WHO WERE FROM NEARBY COUNTIES AND TOWNS.

UM, PEOPLE OUTTA STATE WHO ARE DRIVING THROUGH.

AND OCCASIONALLY YOU COME ACROSS SOMEONE WHO'S EVEN AN INTERNATIONAL VISITOR.

SO EVERY, UM, MARCH, I LOOK FORWARD TO THE REOPENING OF THE RESTROOM, MYSELF INCLUDED WITH MANY OTHER PEOPLE WHO WALK IN THE PARK AND USE IT ON A, ON A, ON A, A REGULAR BASIS.

SO YOU CAN IMAGINE OUR DISMAY LAST MARCH WHEN WE SAW THE BATHROOM BEING CARTED AWAY, AND WHEN WE ASK, WE WERE TOLD IT'S NEVER COMING BACK.

SO THE, MY FRIENDS AND I ASK A QUESTION, HOW DOES A FIRST RATE PARK ONLY MERIT A SECOND CLASS JOHNNY BLUE? THEN I BECAME CURIOUS ABOUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT LED TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BATHROOM IN THE FIRST PLACE, THINKING MAYBE WE COULD USE THE SAME METHODS THAT THEY USED TO GET ANOTHER BATHROOM.

SO I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHAT I WAS TOLD AS A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY OF THAT BATHROOM.

IT TOOK PLACE ABOUT 13 YEARS AGO WHEN THE PARK WAS BEING DEVELOPED.

THE RESIDENTS OF WARREN COUNTY RAISED ABOUT $12,000 TO BUILD A BATHROOM.

THE ONLY STIPULATION BEING THAT THEY WANTED IT TO HAVE SOLAR PANELS, PANELS SO THAT IT COULD BE OPEN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, THE MONEY WAS GIVEN TO THE TOWN AND THEY EVENTUALLY GAVE IT TO THE COUNTY TO BUILD.

AND SOMEWHERE AROUND 2014, A BATHROOM WAS ERECTED AND PLACED IN A PERFECT SPOT NEAR THE PICNIC AREA.

NO SOLAR PANELS WERE INSTALLED.

SO IT WAS ONLY OPEN FROM MARCH 31ST TO NOVEMBER 1ST.

I REMEMBER BEING DELIGHTED AT HAVING A BATHROOM WITH A COMMODE FLUSHED MOST OF THE TIME, AND A SINK WHERE YOU COULD WASH YOUR HANDS.

BUT I DID NOTICE THAT THERE WERE LE NOUM FLOORS, AND I WAS A LITTLE CURIOUS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THIS IS AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE SWIM AND FISH IN THE RIVER.

UM, RAIN COMES IN.

SO THE FLOORS WERE, UM, YOU KNOW, OFTEN SUBJECT TO GETTING WET AND I WONDERED HOW THAT WOULD HOLD UP LONG TERM.

AND, UM, AND SURE ENOUGH, THE FLOORS DID START THE BUCKLE IF YOU'RE CLOSE TO C BEING DONE.

SO MY C OKAY, MY CHALLENGE TO YOU IS THIS.

CAN WE WORK TOGETHER OR FIND A PATHWAY TO, UM, TO PUT ANOTHER BATHROOM THERE THAT IS A CLASS A BATHROOM.

MY HURRY TO GET THE PUBLIC COMMENT STARTED.

AND I, THANKS TO DR.

JAMESON, REALIZE THAT I SKIPPED OVER, UM, IN OUR WEATHER PRESENTATION, THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE DESIGNATION.

SO IF, UM, I COULD HAVE A MOTION FROM THE BOARD ON THAT ITEM.

WE'LL GET THAT OFF OUR PLATE HERE.

I MOVE THAT THE PROPOSED STORM READY DESIGNATION FOR WARREN COUNTY VIRGINIA, PRESENTED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, BE APPROVED FOR THE YEARS 2024 TO 2028.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

[E. Public Comment Period (60 Minute Time Limit) (Part 1 of 2)]

I MISSED THAT.

SO THANK YOU DR.

JAMESON.

UH, NEXT UP, MR. HENDERSON, NEXT UP IS CAMERON WILLIAMS. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT TAXES, .

UM, HOWEVER I'LL BE APPROACHING THIS TOPIC FROM A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

I'LL, I'LL BE DISCUSSING THE RECENT TAX INCREASE AT I BELIEVE YOUR, UH, APRIL 9TH MEETING.

IS THAT

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RIGHT? UM, I INITIALLY SUPPORTED THE TAX INCREASE FROM THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO EVERYBODY.

I BELIEVE THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ENSURE THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ARE ADEQUATELY FUNDED AND EQUIPPED TO TAKE ON ANY POTENTIAL CHALLENGE.

I STILL BELIEVE THIS AS I AM A FIRM SUPPORTER OF THE FIRE AND SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

HOWEVER, WITH THE INFORMATION WE ALL HAVE NOW, I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR THE FIRE AND SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WITHOUT THE ADDED BURDEN OF A TAX INCREASE.

MR. PURDY PUT IT QUITE WELL AT THE APRIL 9TH HEARING THAT WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS HAVE BECOME A MONEY PIT THAT THE MU THAT THE COUNTY CAN'T GET OUT OF.

IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS TAKE A MUCH NEEDED CUT AND POTENTIALLY EVEN A FUNDING FREEZE.

SO MORE NECESSARY PUBLIC RESOURCES CAN BE FUNDED AND EQUIPPED.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS SHOULD RECEIVE ANOTHER CENT UNTIL THERE'S PROOF OF, UH, PROOF OF IMPROVEMENT IN ENROLLMENT AND QUALITY.

THEY DO NOT NEED TO BE OPERATING WITH SUCH A LARGE BUDGET WHEN THERE'S BEEN A DRASTIC DECREASE IN ENROLLMENT, AN INCREASE IN FUNDING AND PLUMMETING TEST SCORES.

WE CAN THROW ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD AT THE SCHOOLS AND IT WON'T FIX THE INTRINSIC PROBLEMS THAT THEY FACE.

I'M SURE THERE ARE MANY WITH ME TONIGHT WHO'VE ATTENDED EITHER SKYLINE OR WARREN.

AND I'M SURE THAT THEY CAN PROVE BEYOND ANY DOUBT THAT THE PROBLEM WITH THE SCHOOLS IS NOT A MONEY PROBLEM.

IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROBLEM.

MEMBERS OF BOTH THIS BOARD AND THE SCHOOL BOARD HAVE EXPRESSED THIS QUITE LOUDLY, BUT IT SEEMS TO HAVE FALLEN ON DEAF EARS.

THE FIRE AND SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAVE A TANGIBLE PROBLEM WITH A TANGIBLE SOLUTION.

MORE FUNDING, MORE EQUIPMENT, MORE PERSONNEL.

THE SCHOOLS HAVE AN INTRINSIC PROBLEM WITH A SOLUTION THAT CANNOT BE FIXED WITH MORE MONEY.

IT CAN ONLY BE FIXED BY DISCIPLINE, DISCIPLINE IN THE SCHOOLS AND DISCIPLINE WITH THE POCKETBOOKS.

IT'S UP TO THE SCHOOLS TO IMPLEMENT STUDENT DISCIPLINE, BUT IT'S UP TO THIS BOARD TO IMPLEMENT DISCIPLINE WITH THE POCKETBOOKS, REDIRECT THE MONEY TO PUBLIC RESOURCES THAT NEED IT.

AT THAT POINT, YOU WON'T NEED TO BURDEN THE PUBLIC WITH THIS TAX INCREASE.

CITIZENS IN WARREN COUNTY ARE ALREADY HAVING TROUBLE GETTING BY DESPITE THE RELATIVELY LOW TAXES THAT WE HAVE NOW.

THESE PROBLEMS WILL ONLY FESTER ONCE TAXES ARE RAISED.

CITIZENS OF WARREN COUNTY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DECIDE BETWEEN EATING THREE MEALS A DAY OR PAYING THEIR TAXES.

SESSION AND THAT'S WHERE THEY GOT THEIR CALLING ORDERS FROM.

NEXT, MR. HENDERSON, NEXT IS THOMAS SAYER THOMAS SARAH LIVE IN SHENANDOAH DISTRICT.

I ALWAYS WANT TO ECHO ONE THING TO SPEAK RIGHT BEFORE ME SAID THAT THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES IN WARREN COUNTY ARE, ARE, WERE ALREADY SIGNIFICANTLY HIGH AND NOW THEY'VE GONE EVEN HIGHER.

AND THAT'S A LOT TO PAY, ESPECIALLY LIKE CAR TAXES AND STUFF.

JUST I WAS SURPRISED THAT YOU GUYS ADDED THAT ON.

SO I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT JUST BEING TRANSPARENT.

THERE'S THE TOWN COUNCIL ON THE JUNE 13TH, 2022 SPECIAL CALL MEETING.

THEY HAD A MEETING AND THEY COUCHED IT AS SAYING IT WAS FOR LITIGATION FEES.

BUT WHAT THEY DID AT THIS SPECIAL TOWN COUNCIL MEETING IS THEY SENT $150,000 OF GENERAL RESERVE FUND MONEY TO THE VRSA VIRGINIA RISK SHARING ASSOCIATION.

THAT 150,000 CAME OUT OF THE GENERAL RESERVE FUND.

THAT'S CITIZENS THAT LIVE IN A TOWN OF FRONT ROW THAT'S, UH, REAL ESTATE TAXES, PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES, TOWN TAXES, BUSINESS TAXES.

AND THAT CAME RIGHT OUT OF THE GENERAL RESERVE.

AND HE SENT IT TO THE VRSA AND THEY MADE THE MOTION AND SAID IT WAS FOR LITIGATION FEES.

AND WHAT IT WAS, IT WAS FOR A SETTLEMENT.

AND THEN THEY, THEY, SO TO SAVE FACE, THEY MADE IT AND COUCHED IT THAT WAY.

AND WHAT, WHAT I'M JUST ASKING THE GOVERNMENTS HERE IN WARREN COUNTY TO DO IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST BE OPEN ABOUT IT.

IF YOU'RE AFRAID SOMEBODY MAY BE MAD AT YOU OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, THEN JUST TAKE IT ON THE CHIN AND ACCEPT IT.

BUT TO TAKE $150,000 AND SEND IT TO VRSA AND NOT LET THE GENERAL PUBLIC KNOW.

AND EVEN I WAS INTERRUPTED BY AMBER MORRIS ON THE, ON THE COUNCIL AND, AND THE TOWN ATTORNEY MADE THE MOTION.

WELL, HE MADE A MOTION, HE MADE A COMMENT SAYING, THIS SETTLEMENT IS SO, IT IS A SETTLEMENT.

AND THEN SHE SPOKE ABOUT BEING IN CLOSED

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SO AGAIN, JUST IF, IF, IF YOU'RE GONNA MAKE A MOTION, DON'T COUCH.

SAY IT'S FOR LEGAL FEES, SAY THIS IS FOR A SETTLEMENT AND THEN PEOPLE WILL KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SPENDING THE MONEY FOR.

THAT'S A LITTLE BETTER.

TALL PEOPLE.

MY NAME IS RICHARD BAKER.

I LIVE, UH, ON MAIN STREET IN THE APARTMENTS ABOVE THE ELEMENT.

AND, UH, ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS TAX INCREASE THAT I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT RECENTLY IS FOR THE, THE POLICE FIRE.

I HAVE NO PROBLEMS AT ALL WITH THEM GETTING ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THEIR, THEIR WORTHWHILE PURPOSES.

BUT TELL ME EXACTLY WHAT HAS THE SCHOOLS HAVE THE SCHOOL DONE TO DESERVE MORE MONEY? OKAY, THAT'S THE PART THAT I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND.

I WAS A HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER IN FLORIDA AND I SAW THE DISCIPLINE PROBLEMS DOWN THERE.

THEN THIS IS BEFORE NINE I I GOT LAID OFF AFTER NINE 11 LIKE SO MANY OTHERS DID.

THE DISCIPLINE PROBLEMS HAVEN'T GOTTEN PROBABLY ANY BETTER.

THEY'VE PROBABLY GOTTEN WORSE.

SO WHY ARE WE GIVING THE SCHOOLS ANY MORE, ANY MORE MONEY UNTIL THEY GIVE, GIVE THE COMMUNITY A REASON FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

THIS TAX INCREASE IS NOT NECESSARY.

AS SOMEBODY SAID EARLIER, THERE IS PROBABLY PLENTY OF MONEY TO DO FOR THE POLICE AND FIRE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS ARE FINDING THERE'S A, UH, WELL THEY'RE GETTING SMALLER.

THE STUDENT BODIES ARE GETTING SMALLER, SO WHY ARE WE GIVING THEM MORE MONEY? OKAY, THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY.

IT'S JUST SHORT, SHORT, SWEET, AND TO THE POINT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BEFORE YOU GO, CAN I ASK YOU, ARE YOU THE GENTLEMAN THAT MAKE SURE THE MAIN STREET IS CLEANED UP? OH, YES MA'AM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH, I ALMOST DIDN'T RECOGNIZE YOU WITHOUT YOUR HAT, SO THANK YOU.

RIGHT ON MY HAT AND I DON'T HAVE MY PIPE.

WELL, THANK YOU MATTHEW PURDY.

HOW'S IT GOING GUYS? SO I WAS, UH, EXCUSE ME, YOUR NAME AND JUST OH, YOU WANT MY NAME? OKAY.

YES SIR.

IT'S MATTHEW PURDY AND I HAVE TO SAY WHERE I'M AT TOO.

HAPPY CREEK, UH, DISTRICT.

YES, SIR.

OKAY, SWEET.

UM, OH, GOT SOME FANS.

UM, SO I WAS ACTUALLY, UH, GOING THROUGH, UM, I, I LIKE TO CHECK UP ON MY READING OF COMMUNIST, UM, MATERIALS AND JOURNALISM.

SO I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE ROYAL EXAMINER AND I ACTUALLY NOTICED THAT THERE WAS A BIT OF A KIND OF A NAZI, I DON'T WANNA SAY ACTUAL NAZI, RIGHT, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD THINK THAT RICH WAS, UH, BUDGET HITLER OVER THERE WHEN READING IT BECAUSE OF, UH, HOW STERN THEY MAKE HIM.

AND THEY KIND OF MAKE IT A POINT TO, I DON'T KNOW, KIND OF MAKE IT SEEM LIKE THERE WAS A BENT TO LIKE, LIKE THE FACT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN PEOPLE CHOSE TO HOMESCHOOL THEIR STUDENTS OR THEIR, THEIR CHILDREN THAT THEY, UH, SUPPORTED CUTTING THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

BUT THE RE THE, THE QUESTIONS THAT I HEARD A LOT OF YOU GUYS ASK THE OTHER LAST WEEK WERE VERY LEGITIMATE AND VERY, UH, POIGNANT AND AND SMART.

AND I THINK THAT IF WE LOOK BACK IN THE PAST, UH, DECADE, WE KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS HAVE GAINED ABOUT $20 MILLION WHILE, UM, IN THE PAST, LET'S SEE HERE.

YEAH, IN THAT SAME AMOUNT OF TIME, THE AMOUNT OF STUDENTS HAS GONE DOWN BY ABOUT 400 STUDENTS.

SO, UM, AND ON TOP OF THAT, THEY'RE FAILING OUR CHILDREN.

THESE SCHOOLS ARE FAILING OUR CHILDREN AND WE STILL ARE EVEN CONSIDERING GIVING THEM ASCENT.

I THINK THAT'S WRONG.

I THINK THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA INCENTIVIZE THESE PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE CORRECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE IS TO FREEZE THE BUDGET AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU GUYS HAVE FAILED TO FULFILL YOUR OBLIGATIONS.

YOU GUYS HAVE FAILED OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL KIDS.

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THAT'S IT.

DRAW A LINE.

'CAUSE UNLESS YOU GUYS DRAW A LINE, THIS WILL KEEP HAPPENING.

AND I THINK REALLY, UH, I LOOK, I JUST LOOK AT THESE TAXPAYERS, YOU KNOW, UM, I TALK TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE TROUBLE PAYING THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.

IT'S LIKE $1,200 FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.

UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING AND THEY'RE MAKING A DECISION WHETHER THEY WANT TO, UM, LIKE KAREN WAS SAYING EARLIER, YOU KNOW, HAVE THREE MEALS A DAY OR, YOU KNOW, PAY TAXES, , YOU KNOW, SO LIKE A PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX, WHICH YOU KIND OF CONVENIENTLY BREAK UP INTO TWO PAYMENTS.

I FIND THAT KIND OF INTERESTING.

SO, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, ALL I JUST WANTED TO SAY IS THAT, UH, PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO SHOW UP.

WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO PUT ON PRESSURE, UH, UNTIL THE TAX INCREASES ARE REPEALED.

AND I BELIEVE THERE'S MORE THAN ENOUGH ROOM TO MAKE THESE CUTS.

UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE MONEY THAT COULD BE MADE FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOT PAID THEIR PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX AND THEIR PROPERTY TAX.

THERE'S THREE OR $4 MILLION READY TO BE TAKEN WITH REVENUE FROM THOSE THINGS AND YOU CAN USE THAT.

I THINK WE HAVE JUST ENOUGH TIME FOR ONE MORE.

AND MIRANDA, UH, GOOD EVENING BOARD.

UH, MY NAME'S ANN MIRANDA.

I'M FROM THE HAPPY CREEK DISTRICT.

UM, I'LL TRY TO BE, BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE CONSIDERING I HAVE SPENT THIS ENTIRE MORNING WITH MY HEAD IN THE TOILET FROM FOOD POISONING.

AND YET I HAVE STILL DRAGGED MY KEYS THROUGH OVER HERE TONIGHT TO PROTEST THE RECENT PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX INCREASES AND THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASES AND ASK FOR YOU TO REVERSE THEM.

UM, WE JUST WERE AT THE APPLE HOUSE WHERE WE SPOKE TO THE CASHIER THERE.

SHE IS A PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER.

UM, AND SHE HAD, SHE HAS TO HAVE A SECOND JOB AT THE APPLE HOUSE BECAUSE SHE HAD TO TAKE OUT A LOAN IN ORDER TO PAY OFF HER CAR TAX.

THIS IS UNJUSTIFIABLE.

UM, MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE OF WHAT GOES ON WITH THE SCHOOLS.

I KNOW YOU HAVE LOOKED AT THIS, BUT I'LL TAKE YOUR ATTENTION TO THE, UM, PROPOSED 2025 BUDGET FOR THE WARREN COUNTY SCHOOLS.

THERE'S DOZENS OF THINGS HERE THAT ARE SUSPICIOUS, BUT JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, ON PAGE 10 OF THIS, WE HAVE TECHNOLOGY CONSUMABLES WHERE THE ORIGINAL 2023 BUDGET AND THE 2024 BUDGET ARE BOTH A $10,000.

THE 23 ACTUALS ARE $3,700.

SO THEY'RE MORE THAN $6,000 UNDER THE BUDGET, AND YET THEY'RE INCREASING THEIR ASK TO $17,000 FOR SOME REASON.

AND YOU SEE DOZENS OF LINES LIKE THIS WITH, UM, CERTAIN THINGS LIKE OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, WHATEVER THAT IS.

UM, WHY DO THE PRINCIPLES OF THESE FAILING SCHOOLS NEED SALARY INCREASES? UM, IT SEEMS AS IF THERE'S, UH, A LACK OF APPROPRIATE SCRUTINY ON THE SCHOOLS AND THE WARREN COUNTY TAXPAYERS ARE THE ONES GETTING THE SHAFT FOR THIS.

NOTHING JUSTIFIES OPPRESSING THE TAX PAYERS LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN.

AND SO I'M ASKING YOU TO RECONSIDER THIS TAX INCREASE.

AND THAT BRINGS US TO SEVEN 30, WHICH IS OUR PUBLIC HEARING TIME.

[H. Public Hearing: CUP 2024-03-03 John Paul the Great Montessori Academy - Private School - Matt Wendling, Planning Director]

AND THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS CUP 2024 DASH OH THREE DASH OH THREE.

JOHN PAUL, THE GREAT MONTESSORI ACADEMY.

IT'S A PRIVATE SCHOOL IN MR. WINDLEY.

INTO AN EFFICIENT AND SERVICEABLE FORM THAT WILL PRESERVE THE COUNTY'S PREDOMINANTLY RURAL CHARACTER.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL TO BE LOCATED ON WHAT IS CURRENTLY THE BOWLING GREEN SOUTH GOLF COURSE, WHICH HAS BEEN CLOSED SINCE ITS RECENT PURCHASE IN 2023.

BY HELL, TOWN RIVER INVESTMENTS, LLC.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT AND WITHIN A STUDY PERIOD, UH, BY NOELLE SWEENEY, WHO IS REPRESENTING THE SCHOOL AND MEMBERS OF THEIR BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

THE SCHOOL CURRENTLY SERVES 141 STUDENTS AND HAS 20 FULL-TIME AND 18 PART-TIME EMPLOYEES HAS A AND HAS A CURRICULUM BASED ON THE CATHOLIC MONTESSORI APPROACH.

AS STATED IN THEIR MISSION STATEMENT, THEY PROPOSE THAT THIS FACILITY WILL INCLUDE OPEN AREAS FOR OUTDOOR RECESS, DAYTIME SPORTS, RECREATION AND DEVELOPMENT OF OCCUPATIONS RELATING TO LIVESTOCK, HUSBANDRY, FARMING AND GARDENING.

THEY CURRENTLY HAVE PROGRAMS FOR PRESCHOOL THREE DAYS A WEEK, AND ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL CHILDREN FOR FIVE DAYS A WEEK.

THEIR LONG-TERM PLANS ARE TO EXPAND TO INCLUDE TODDLERS AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND NOT TO EXCEED IN ENROLLMENT OF MORE THAN 200 STUDENTS.

THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN ZONED.

AGRICUL IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL AND HAS BEEN USED AS A GOLF COURSE UNDER A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

SINCE 1981 ISSUED TO LINWOOD MORRISON.

THERE WERE NO CONDITIONS PLACED ON THAT PERMIT.

THE PROPOSED USE OF THE PROPERTY WOULD BE CONSIDERED IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AS A PRIVATE SCHOOL.

THIS IS PERMITTED BY A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT.

IT ALSO MEETS THE GOAL OF CHAPTER FOUR, SECTION ONE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH STATES THAT TO DIRECT FUTURE GROWTH

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AND IT INCLUDES FOR THE SPECIFIC OBJECTIVES OF THE CHAPTER, WHICH ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT IS PROVIDED TO YOU.

STAFF HAS ALSO RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM ALL OUTSIDE AGENCIES, WHICH HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU.

ALSO, THE APPLICANT FOR THE PUBLIC SCHOOL MEETS THE SUPPLEMENTAL, EXCUSE ME, APPLICATION FOR THE PUBLIC SCHOOL MEETS THE SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS OF WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTION, WHICH STATES THAT NO SUCH ACTIVITY SHALL BE PERMITTED ON A PARCEL OF LAND.

LESS THAN THREE ACRES IN SIZE.

PROPOSED SCHOOLS AND RELATED FACILITIES SHALL BE DESIGNED AND LOCATED AS TO BE SO AS TO MINIMIZE IMPACT OF VEHICULAR TRAFFIC OR NEARBY RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

UM, THE, UM, SCHOOL IS ALSO, UH, PROPOSING IF THEY'VE NOT TO PURCHASE THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE EXISTING CLUBHOUSE AT THE APRIL 10TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARDED THE APPLICATION, RECOMMENDING THEIR APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS IN WHICH NUMBER TWO WAS AMENDED TO ADD REFERENCES TO A MATERIAL CHANGE FOR RESUBMITTAL OF THE SITE PLAN FOR REVIEW.

AND NUMBER SEVEN, TO INCLUDE A MINIMUM SETBACK OF 50 FEET FOR ALL STRUCTURES.

UH, WE TYPICALLY READ THESE, SO I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THEM.

UH, NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL MEET ALL VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS, WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND OFFICE OF WATER PROGRAMS, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND WARREN COUNTY FIRE AND RESCUE, VIRGINIA STATEWIDE PREVENTION CODE RULES AND REGULATIONS.

NUMBER TWO, A SITE PLAN SHALL BE PREPARED AND APPROVED BY THE WARREN COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF AN INITIAL BUILDING PERMIT.

UM, THE SITE PLAN SHALL SHOW ALL STRUCTURES INGRESS, EGRESS FOR TRAFFIC, PARKING AREAS, OUTDOOR LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING SCREENS, STORAGE AREAS, TRASH, RECEPTACLE, SIGNAGE, AND OTHER APPLICABLE ZONING REQUIREMENTS PRIOR TO MAKING ANY MATERIAL CHANGE TO ANY OF THE ITEMS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN.

A RESUBMITTED SITE PLAN SHOWING SUCH PROPOSED CHANGE WILL BE REQUIRED FOR REVIEW BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND PLANNING STAFF.

THE CONSTRUCTION OF ANY STRUCTURE IN EXCESS OF 256 SQUARE FEET SHALL BE DEEMED A MATERIAL CHANGE.

NUMBER THREE, THE PROPERTY SHALL HAVE A LANDSCAPE BUFFERED TO SCREEN THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTHEAST AND TO THE WEST.

ALONG THE DEEDED 30 FOOT ACCESS EASEMENT, THE EXISTING VEGETATION WITHIN THAT 30 FOOT EASEMENT MAY BE REMOVED AND LANDSCAPING SHALL BE RELOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE EASEMENT.

THE LANDSCAPING SHALL COMPLY WITH STANDARDS SET FORTH IN SECTION 180 DASH 49.1 OF WARREN COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE REGARDING LANDSCAPING.

NUMBER FOUR, ALL LIGHT FIXTURES SHALL BE FULLY SHIELDED WITH DARK SKY COMPLIANT FIXTURES AND COMPLY WITH WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTION FOUR LIGHTING.

NO EXTERIOR LIGHTING SHALL BE ALLOWED FOR THE SPORTS AND ATHLETIC FIELDS.

THE BUILDING AND PARKING LOT LIGHTING SHALL BE AUTOMATED TO TURN OFF ONE HOUR AFTER DARK AND BACK ON ONE HOUR BEFORE DAWN, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SECURITY LIGHTING.

NUMBER FIVE, THE OCCUPANCY OF THE SCHOOL SHALL BE NO MORE THAN 200 STUDENTS.

NUMBER SIX, THE PARKING AREA IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 14 C SECTION TWO, LOT 24 SHALL BE ALLOWED WITH WRITTEN APPROVAL BY THE PROPERTY OWNER SUBMITTED TO PLANNING STAFF.

AND AFTER MEETING ALL REQUIREMENTS OF VDOT FOR ANY NECESSARY ENTRANCE IMPROVEMENTS, PARKING, OR ONE OR ADJACENT TO THE PUBLIC ROAD SHALL BE PROHIBITED AND CLEARLY IDENTIFIED WITH NO PARKING SIGNAGE.

AND LASTLY, CONDITION NUMBER SEVEN.

ALL STRUCTURES, INCLUDING ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, SHALL BE SET BACK A MINIMUM OF 50 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINES.

THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED, ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

UH, MR. SWEENEY IS HERE AND HE HAS A, UH, PREPARED A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION HE'D LIKE TO, UH, SHOW YOU.

WE ALSO STAFF DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE SITE, TAKE SOME PHOTOS, AND THOSE WILL BE INCLUDED AS PART OF HIS PRESENTATION, UM, UH, WITH THIS EVENING.

SO, UH, WITH THAT I'LL GET IT TO MR. SWEENEY.

PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO TALK AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR.

FELLOW, UH, FELLOW MEMBERS.

UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO START BY SAYING, UH, THIS ANALYSIS WAS BASED ON A LOT OF COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.

WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE ROCKLAND ALLIANCE ON ONE OCCASION AND WE ALSO MET

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WITH, UM, THE COMMUNITY AT THE FACILITY AS WELL AND ANSWERED A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

SO AFTER THAT MEETING, WE TABULATED A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE NEXT HERE.

SO JUST FOR OUR RECORD, COULD YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? SURE.

MY NAME IS NO SWEENEY.

MY ADDRESS IS 1000 LAFAYETTE STREET IN UPPERVILLE, VIRGINIA.

UM, I'M CURRENTLY FROM FAIRFAX, MOVE MY FAMILY OUT HERE TO A FARM TO GET OUT WEST AND TEACH THEM MORE ABOUT FARMING.

UM, MY KIDS GO TO THE SCHOOL.

MOST OF MY EMPLOYEES ARE FROM WARREN COUNTY.

THAT WE COULD PROPOSE ADDITIONAL DRAIN FIELD AREAS IN THE PROPERTY FOR MS. ESTIMATED 3000 GALLONS PER DAY NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE SCHOOL.

THANK YOU SIR.

UH, BOWLING CREAM SITE ANALYSIS UPDATE, UH, PETITION OF SUPPORT FROM ROCKLAND RESIDENTS.

WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THE LOCAL RESIDENTS BY ATTENDING A RECENT ROCKLAND ALLIANCE MEETING TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LONG-TERM VISION WAS FOR ROCKLAND AND ITS RESIDENTS.

THE ROCKLAND ALLIANCE HAVE ANALYZED THE DATA FROM THE PLANNERS AND CONCURRED THAT THEY RECOMMEND THE PLANNING LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE IMPLEMENTED.

IN ADDITION TO THE TWO ADDITIONAL ONES, UH, THAT MR. WENDLING JUST MENTIONED, WE ARE ATTACHING A LIST OF ROCKLAND RESIDENTS WHO HAVE VOICED THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE PRIVATE SCHOOL.

ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE HAVE CONTINUED TO WORK WITH LOCAL RESIDENTS OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS IN A TRANSPARENT MANNER ON ANY QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE HAD ABOUT OUR PROPOSED USAGE.

HERE'S A LIST OF THE CURRENT, UH, RESIDENT ADDRESSES ON THE RIGHT AND THE RESIDENT NAMES ON THE LEFT WHO SUPPORT THE SCHOOL GOING INTO THIS PROPERTY.

THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS RESULTS, THIS WAS ANOTHER HOT TOPIC ITEM, UH, TRAFFIC ON THE PROPERTY.

THE CURRENT PROPERTY WAS USED FOR A GOLF CLUB AND WEDDINGS AND EVENTS.

UM, AND THAT IS THE CURRENT APPROVED USAGE.

WE HAVE HIRED A THIRD PARTY ENGINEERING FIRM, GREENWAY, TO ANALYZE THE IMPACTS ON TRAFFIC WITH OUR USAGE VERSUS WHAT IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS BREWERY AND WINERY.

THE DATA IS ATTACHED ON THIS PACKAGE.

THE BASIC SUMMARY OF THAT DATA, UM, BY, I, I'M NOT JUST GONNA GET INTO IT 'CAUSE IT'S VERY DETAILED, BUT THEY'RE ATTACHED IN ESSENCE, A WINE TASTING ROOM AND BREWERY TAP ROOM, WHICH ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN THE, A DISTRICT WOULD GENERATE COMPARABLE OR GREATER WEEKDAY TRAFFIC COMPARED TO THE PRIVATE SCHOOL USE.

WHILE THE WINE TASTING ROOM WOULD GENERATE ROUGHLY THE SAME DAILY TRAFFIC.

THE BREWERY AND TAP ROOM USES PROJECTED TO GENERATE AN ADDITIONAL 108 TRIPS PER WEEKDAY AND AN ADDITIONAL 47 46 TRIPS PER WEEKDAY PM.

HOWEVER, THE INCREASED TRAFFIC IMPACT OF THE WINE TASTING AND BREWERY ROOMS ARE PRO PROJECTED TO GENERATE OVER 1,608 WINE TA UM, TRIPS AND 964 TRIPS RESPECTIVELY ON THE WEEKENDS.

WHILE THE PROPOSED PRIVATE SCHOOL WILL NOT GENERATE ANY TRAFFIC ON THE WEEKENDS EXCEPT FOR OCCASIONAL SCHOOL EVENTS.

BASED ON THESE FINDINGS, GREENWAY HAS CONCLUDED THAT ESTABLISH AN ESTABLISHMENT OF THE PRIVATE SCHOOL WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY ADVERSE CONDITIONS ON THE SURROUNDING ROAD NETWORK.

HERE'S THE ANALYSIS JUST FOR YOUR OWN DATA AS WELL, WHERE WE'VE BROKEN DOWN EXACTLY WHAT GREENWAY HAVE PROVIDED THIS INFORMATION HERE.

UH, PARKING WAS ALSO GONNA BE A CHALLENGE BASED UPON THE EXISTING PARKING LOT ON THE SCHOOL SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

SO WE HAVE A CONTRACT TO PURCHASE THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE ROAD, WHICH ADDED AN ADDITIONAL 90 CARS TO THE PARKING FOR THE SCHOOL.

THE ISSUE WAS WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A GOOD THOROUGH FAR FOR THE DROP OFF OF THE KIDS SO WE COULD KEEP THEM OFF THE MAIN ROAD.

SO WE DID AWAY WITH MOST OF THE TRAFFIC AROUND THE EXISTING BUILDING, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU ON ANOTHER SLIDE.

SO WE BOUGHT THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE ROAD SO WE COULD BRING THE TRAFFIC OFF THE ROAD AND INTO THE FRONT OF THE SITE TO DO A GOOD DROP OFF AND THEN LEAVE ENOUGH SPACE FOR THE CARS TO GET ON THERE WITHOUT BLOCKING TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD.

UM, SO THE ATTACH REVISED PARKING ARRANGEMENT FROM OUR ENGINEERS, GREENWAY AND NEW TRAFFIC FLOW, WHICH INCORPORATES THE NEW DROP OFF MODEL, WILL TAKE ANY BURDEN OFF TRAFFIC OFF THE MAIN ROUTES.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, THE SCHOOL IS TO THE SOUTH AND JUST TO THE NORTH YOU CAN KINDA SEE THE LIGHT LINES WHERE THE NEW TRAFFIC PATTERN TO THE NORTH OF THE SCHOOL.

UH, WE'RE LOSING A LOT OF PARKING SPACES BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THIS, BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE 90 NEW PARKING SPOT SPOTS ACROSS THE ROAD.

SO IN ADDITION TO THE, TO THE FEW WE KEPT ON THAT SITE, I THINK IT'S 98.

UM, AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE, UH, THE TRAFFIC PATTERN AS WELL.

WE ARE NOT GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST.

WE ARE BASICALLY GOING TO BE COMING THROUGH DALE TO THE SOUTH AND, AND ON THE MAIN FLOOR FAIR AND NOT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, HERE'S ALSO JUST A LITTLE BLOW UP OF THE PARKING LOT, SO YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT BETTER AGAIN, TO THE SOUTH AS THE DROP OFF LINES.

WE HAVE TWO ENTRANCES, THAT'S ONE WAY TRAFFIC AND THEN YOU CAN SEE HERE TO THE LEFT ALL THAT INFORMATION.

THE ONE, THE ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS THE, UM, NUMBER FIVE ON THE FIRST ROW, WHICH BASICALLY SAYS PARKING REQUIRED ACCORDING TO GREENWAY IS 78 SPACES.

PARKING PROVIDED IS 94 SPACES.

SO WE HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE NEEDED USE FOR THE SCHOOL.

UM, THE NEXT HOT TOPIC ITEM WAS SEP SEPTIC ANALYSIS RESULTS.

UH, GREENWAY ENGINEERING WAS HIRED TO EVALUATE WHERE THE SEPTIC AND DISPOSAL AREA COULD SUPPORT AN ESTIMATED 3000 GALLONS PER DAY FOR THE PROPOSED SCHOOL.

A SOIL EVALUATIONS WAS COMPLETED BY EXCAVATING SEVERAL BACKHOE TEST BITS AND SUITABLE LANDSCAPE POSITIONS THAT ALSO MET AND REQUIRED SETBACKS.

THAT'S, WE'VE ALREADY CONCLUDED THAT WORK.

THE RESULTS OF THE SOIL INVESTIGATION

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THE PHOTO BELOW SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED DRAIN.

FULL AREAS TO INCLUDE BOTH INSTALLATION AREA ALONG WITH THE REQUIRED RESERVE DRAIN FIELD, THE RESERVE AREA THAT THE AERIAL SHOWS THE EXISTING WELLS AND SEPTIC SYSTEM COMPONENTS.

UM, HERE YOU CAN SEE WE, UH, THE DARK OR LIGHT BLUE IS A PROPOSED, UH, SOCCER OR I SHOULD SAY FIELDS FOR THE FUTURE FOR THE KIDS.

UH, AND THEN BELOW THAT IN THE YELLOW MARKED OUT LINE IS WHERE GREENWAY SAID WE COULD PUT THE PROPOSED, UH, FIELD.

THEY SAID THE SOILS WERE GOOD FOR THIS AND THERE WAS REALLY GOOD PERCOLATION AREA IN THAT AREA.

UM, AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE FROM THIS DRAWING ON THE RED AND THE ON THE GREEN LINES.

THE TRAFFIC FLOW I DISCUSSED EARLIER COME FROM NOAL AND OF THE SCHOOL THERE TAKING THE TRAFFIC OFF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WATER QUALITY ANALYSIS RESULTS WERE GOOD.

WE'VE HIRED A WATER TESTING COMPANY TO TEST THE WATER AND THE GOOD NEWS IS THE WATER QUALITY CAME BACK WITH CLEAN WATER AND NEGATIVE FOR ANY CONTAMINANTS.

WE HAVE SUBMITTED THESE WATER LAB FINDINGS BACK TO THE OFFICE OF DRINKING WATER AND COLD PEPPER FOR A COMMENT, BUT EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD AT THIS POINT.

UH, BUILDING CODE, INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS.

UH, WE HIRED AN ARCHITECTURAL FIRM TO SEE WHAT INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS.

WE WERE PRETTY UPFRONT WITH WARREN COUNTY AND WE HAD MR. BEAM COME OUT TO THE SITE AND SEE WHAT WAS NEEDED.

THEN WE HIRED THE ARCHITECT TO GO AHEAD AND DO THESE DRAWINGS FOR THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.

BASICALLY, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING AT THIS POINT.

WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR, UH, INTERIOR MODIFICATIONS, WHICH EVERYTHING WILL BE DONE BY CODE.

THAT REALLY INVOLVES, UM, A DA COMPLIANCE OF RAMPS, UH, PANIC HARDWARE ON DOORS, UH, BETWEEN THE BASEMENT AND THE UPPER LEVEL.

BASICALLY PUTTING IN A A, A STAIRWAY THAT IS TO CODE AND, UH, RELAYING OUT THE BATHROOMS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE A DA COMPLIANT.

NOTHING CRAZY, BUT THE EXISTING BUILDING WILL REMAIN THE SAME AND THERE ARE NO PLANS FOR THE FUTURE FOR FOR THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE FOR DOING ANY OTHER BUILDINGS.

AND LIKE WE SAID EARLIER, IF THERE ARE, THERE ARE ANY PLANS TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE PLANNING PERMISSION AND GET THAT APPROVAL BEFORE WE DO THAT.

IF IT'S OVER 256 SQUARE FEET.

UM, AND SUMMARY, BASED UPON ALL THE ATTACHED INFORMATION, WE BELIEVE THAT THE SOLID ROADMAP TO BRING THE CURRENT PROPERTY UP TO CODE AND REGARD TO BUILDING TRAFFIC, PARKING, SEPTIC, AND WATER QUALITY AND ACTUAL FACT WITH THE CURRENT APPROVED USAGE IS A GOOD THING THAT ALL THESE ITEMS WILL BE BROUGHT UP TO THE CURRENT CODE AND APPROVALS.

AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THE CURRENT SYSTEM, THE CURRENT SEPTIC SYSTEM IS RATED FOR 750 GALLONS.

THAT'S A LITTLE STRANGE 'CAUSE THERE'S A GOLF CLUB AND A WEDDING VENUE.

IT'S VERY, SO WE'RE GONNA BRING THAT ENTIRE BUILDING UP, UP TO CODE.

UM, IN ADDITION THE PROPOSED USAGE IN THE LINE WITH FUTURE WARREN COUNTY COMP PLAN, LONG-TERM USE OF THE ROCKLAND HISTORIC AREA AREA BASED ON OUR, UM, COMMUNITY SUPPORT.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THE FACT THAT, UM, THERE WAS ONE MORE SLIDE ON THERE IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND PULLING THAT UP.

JUST, UH, UH, BY RIGHT USES VERSUS, UM, WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY PROPOSING.

THESE, THOSE ARE THE PHOTOS.

YEAH, JUST GO THROUGH THOSE, YOUR CALL.

UH, THESE ARE FROM THE SITE VISIT THEN THAT'S UP TO YOU, MADAM.

I MEAN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, YOU WANNA GO THROUGH THOSE PLEASE? YEAH, YEAH, JUST, JUST I I CAN DESCRIBE THEM IF YOU WANT.

YEAH, WHY DON'T YOU DO THAT.

THIS IS, UH, FROM THE GOLF, UH, CLUBHOUSE, LOOKING TO THE SOUTH OUT OVER THE DRIVING RANGE.

UH, SAME AREA, LOOKING TO THE SOUTH.

YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH, UH, E UH, SOUTHWEST, SOUTHEAST EAST.

UM, THEY'RE VISIBLE FROM THE PROPERTY, BUT WE WILL BE BUFFERING THAT AREA IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSES.

SO THERE IS A LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT WILL BE PROVIDED AT THAT LOCATION.

SAME, THAT'S A CLOSE UP OF THE SAME PHOTO.

UH, THIS IS LOOKING DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE BUILDING.

IT'S VERY WELL BUFFERED.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S THREE LAYERS OF TREES.

THERE BASICALLY USED TO BE A GOLF COURSE.

THOSE WERE GOLF HOLES WITH TREES ON EITHER SIDE, WHICH PROVIDE A GREAT NATURAL BUFFER FOR THE CORN FOR THE RESIDENCES.

THEY'RE CLOSE ON THAT BACKSIDE.

UH, THIS IS AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY PARKING LOT LOOKING TO THE WEST.

THIS IS THE FRONT LOOKING JUST DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH AT THE GOLF CLUB.

I, YEP.

AND THEN THERE WAS ONE MORE, UM, ANOTHER .

OKAY, GREAT.

IF IT CAN, IF IT COMES UP, I TRY TO YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT QUITE NECESSARY.

BASICALLY WHAT WE, WE DID IS WE HAD, UH, WE DID A DEMONSTRATION BETWEEN A CURRENT BREWERY, WEDDING VENUE WITH A COUPLE OF THOUSAND PEOPLE AND OUR USAGE, WHICH IS CAPPED AT 200 KIDS.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE CAPPING THE SCHOOL AT 200 KIDS.

IT'S A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT EXISTING BUILDING.

WE'RE NOT MODIFYING THE EXISTING BUILDING.

IF WE NEED TO MODIFY ANY BUILDINGS FURTHER, WE NEED TO COME BACK TO THE PLANNING, UH, COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL.

ANYTHING OVER 256 SQUARE FEET.

WE'VE LISTENED TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND PRETTY MUCH ADDRESSED EVERY SINGLE ISSUE THAT THEY ASKED US FOR.

AND, UH, PROVIDED

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GOOD ANSWERS FOR THOSE.

AND WE BELIEVE WE'VE GOT A PRETTY STRONG MAJORITY SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT THERE ARE SOME PARENTS FROM THE SCHOOLS WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT THAT HAVE KIDS IN THE ROCKLAND AREA AS WELL.

SO THIS, THIS, THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL WE ALSO THINK IS GOOD FOR THE WARREN COUNTY RESIDENTS.

'CAUSE IT DOES TAKE THAT DRAIN OFF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND PUTS IT BACK INTO THE PRIVATE.

IF YOU CAN IMAGINE 200 KIDS GOING BACK INTO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, THAT'S GONNA BE A PRETTY STRONG DRAW ON THE TAXES AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER ON TONIGHT.

SO I, I THINK THIS, THIS IS NOT A BAD IDEA AND I, I REALLY THANK, UM, THANK YOU FOR, FOR, AND DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, QUESTIONS GOING FORWARD AT TIME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OH, SORRY.

YOU THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT, UH, UH, THAT, THAT YOU'VE HAD, UH, A LOT OF POSITIVE INPUT.

DID YOU HAVE ANY NEGATIVE INPUT AND WHAT WAS IT? YES, SIR.

UM, I WOULD SAY, UM, ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST BOB WAS HIS NAME.

VERY NICE GUY.

HE WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE SEPTIC.

UH, WE HAD ONE OF, ONE OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR SCHOOL TALK, UH, CALL HIM UP, SPEAK TO HIM FOR A COUPLE HOURS, EXPLAIN IT TO HIM.

AND AT THE END OF THE CALL, UH, I BELIEVE, UH, HE'S SUPPORTING US.

UH, ANOTHER RESIDENCE WAS, WAS, UM, A VERY NICE LADY OUT THE BACK AND SHE HAD QUE QUERIES ABOUT THE MOVE, THE SES SEPTIC SYSTEM TO THE BACK.

I PROVIDED HER WITH THE INFORMATION ON GREENWAY.

AND, UM, SO SHE, SHE WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, ASK ME ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, BUT THEY BELIEVE IT WAS A GOOD PLACE TO PUT IT.

UH, THAT ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.

UM, I THINK, I THINK IN GENERAL, WE ALSO GOT SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BUILD NOW IN THE FUTURE? UM, ARE, ARE WE GOING BUILD SOMETHING BIGGER? ARE WE SNEAKING IN AND GOING INTO THE SCHOOL? AND THEN, BUT THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE A 256 SQUARE FOOT LIMIT ON THE BUILDINGS AND WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR ANYTHING ELSE.

SO THAT TOOK CARE OF THAT, AND THOSE TWO PROFFERS WERE ADDED.

AND SO I BELIEVE WE'VE ADDRESSED PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THE CONCERNS.

AND, UH, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF THERE'S ANYTHING MORE YOU'RE AWARE OF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING.

NO, NOT AT ALL.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'D, WE'D RESEARCHED, YOU KNOW, A BOTH THE POSITIVE AND THE NEGATIVE, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR, UH, ADDRESSING THAT.

YES, SIR.

ALL THE QUESTIONS.

I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.

I HAVE A COMMENT THOUGH.

UM, I THINK IT THAT THE, THIS IS ALMOST A, A MODEL WAY TO APPROACH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

I MEAN, WHEN, WHEN I WAS FIRST APPROACHED, ONE OF THE THINGS I SAID WAS, PLEASE ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.

AND, UM, I WENT TO ONE OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS AND, UH, I WAS IMPRESSED WITH THE WAY THAT THEY APPROACHED IT, OPENED IT UP AND ADDRESSED EVERY, EVERY CONCERN, UH, THAT CAME UP.

AND THEN YOU GOT INVOLVED WITH THE ROCKLAND ALLIANCE, AND THAT WAS ALSO, YOU KNOW, I THINK A, A WISE THING TO DO.

AND, AND SHOWED HOW, HOW YOU ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND WANT TO USE THE PROPERTY.

SO MY COMMENT IS, YOU KNOW, THIS, EVERYBODY IN THE FUTURE SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO HOW TO DO A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WHEN IT IMPACTS A COMMUNITY.

BECAUSE ONE OF THE CRITERIA THAT THE COUNTY HAS IS IT NEEDS TO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.

AND THAT MEANS PRIMARILY FOR ME, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY IN THE COMMUNITY, NOT THE PEOPLE WHO WANNA MOVE INTO THE COMMUNITY.

SO THE, YOUR, YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL HAS, HAS DONE THAT.

SO I'M, I'M VERY PLEASED AND I'M HAPPY THAT THIS HAS GONE THE WAY IT HAS.

AND YOU GOT THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE UNANIMOUS VOTES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, I WOULD JUST ECHO THAT.

UM, AND, UH, THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM NOEL FOR, UH, GOING ABOUT THIS IN SUCH A CONSIDERATE AND COMMUNITY CENTERED WAY, UM, FROM ALL ACCOUNTS AND FROM WHAT I PERSONALLY OBSERVED, YOU ACTED WITH GOODWILL, UM, TRANSPARENCY AND A WILLINGNESS BOTH TO LISTEN AND TO COMPROMISE.

AND, UH, THAT IS HOW THIS IS DONE.

AND IT'S WHY, UH, YOUR EFFORT SEEMS TO BE ON TRACK AND EFFORTS BEFORE YOU FAILED.

UH, SO WELL DONE.

UH, MADAM CHAIR, I JUST WANTED TO, TO COMMENT THAT, UH, I WAS INVOLVED IN A, IN, IN A PREVIOUS, UH, UM, ENDEAVOR WHERE THE, UH, WHERE THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO GO AROUND THE COMMUNITY.

AND I, I THINK THAT, UH, THAT YOU DID A, A SUPERB JOB IN INVOLVING THE COMMUNITY AND GETTING THEM OF ADDRESSING, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, GETTING THEM TO TALK ABOUT ANY OF THEIR OBJECTIONS AND THEN ADDRESSING THOSE.

SO I THINK YOU ALL DID A VERY GOOD JOB.

NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

MR. HENDERSON, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? UH, YES MA'AM.

PETER LEMON.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND AGAIN, IF YOU COULD GIVE, UM, NAME AND DISTRICT YOU LIVE IN PETER LEMON, UM, YOUR DISTRICT.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND FELLOW MEMBERS OF THE,

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UH, SUPERVISOR'S BOARD.

UM, I'M JUST HERE REALLY TO SUPPORT THE, UH, THE SCHOOL'S CUP AND YOUR APPROVAL OF IT.

I HAVE A CHILD THERE NOW AND WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE MORE THERE IN THE FUTURE, UM, IF WE CAN GET THEM IN .

AND, UM, SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR THEM.

UM, MAINLY, UH, FOR THIS, FOR THIS MOVE TO GO INTO A RURAL SETTING FOR THE, FOR THE MONTESSORI SCHOOL JUST SEEMS SO VERY APPROPRIATE.

UM, SO I SAW YOUR 800 AND SOMETHING PAGE, UM, PACKET AND, UH, I WON'T SAY ANYTHING MORE 'CAUSE I'M SURE YOU'VE PERUSED ALL OF THOSE LETTERS OF SUPPORT.

SO THANKS VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

I'M IN THE SOUTH RIVER DISTRICT.

I'M MADAM CHAIR AND OTHER BOARD MEMBERS.

I AM UP HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THE COP FOR OUR SCHOOL.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY.

I WOULD LOVE FOR ALL MY CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO GO THERE INTO ENJOY THE OUTDOORS, ALL THE BEAUTIFUL SEASONS OF VIRGINIA.

WE MOVED HERE FROM CALIFORNIA AND, UM, IT'S JUST REALLY, REALLY BEAUTIFUL AND WE WOULD LOVE TO, TO HAVE THIS FOR OUR CHILDREN.

THOMAS MCGUIRE.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

UH, MY NAME IS THOMAS MCGUIRE.

I'M IN THE HAPPY CREEK DISTRICT.

I'M HERE AS A, UH, FATHER OF FIVE CHILDREN WHO ATTEND, UH, JOHN PAUL, THE GREAT MONTESSORI ACADEMY.

AND I JUST WANNA SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE SCHOOL AND FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

UM, I'M AN ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY OFFICER AND I'M AN ATTORNEY AND I'M A PROUD MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND MY CHILDREN ARE, ARE ABSOLUTELY HAPPY AT THIS SCHOOL.

IT HAS BEEN, UM, A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE FOR THEM.

THE SCHOOL IS TRULY A BEACON OF LEARNING OF, UH, INSTILLING CHRISTIAN VIRTUE IN THE CHILDREN AND ALSO CIVIC VIRTUE AND MODELING, UH, A LOT OF WHAT THEY DO ABOUT SPIRITS OF, UH, MUTUAL SUPPORT AND, UH, UM, VOLUNTEERISM, WHICH THEY PARTICIPATE IN ACTIVE ACTIVITIES ON A WEEKLY BASIS.

UH, THIS WOULD BE A PHENOMENAL OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CHILDREN TO REALLY GROW AND FLOURISH IN INNOCENCE AND TO REALLY BREATHE NEW LIFE INTO THAT OLD CLUBHOUSE AND INTO THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

SO BY APPROVING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING AN INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY AND IN THE FUTURE OF THE FUTURE LEADERS OF THIS COMMUNITY.

SO I'D ASK FOR THE APPROVAL AND JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AMANDA SLATE.

I AM AMANDA SLATE.

I LIVE IN SOUTH RIVER DISTRICT AND I'M THE REALTOR THAT'S BEEN WORKING ON HELPING FIND THE PROPERTY, WHICH IT'S BEEN A LONG JOURNEY.

AND HONESTLY, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF REAL ESTATE IN THE AREA.

WE'RE VERY LIMITED ON OLD BUILDINGS AND OLD SCHOOLS AND OLD CHURCHES.

UM, EVEN IN THE TRI-COUNTY AREA, YOU KNOW, WE DID KIND OF BRANCH OUT TO TRY TO FIND SOMETHING.

AND SO I CAN COMPARE IT A LOT TO BUILDINGS THAT ARE LEFT, LIKE THIS BUILDING WOULD DETERIORATE PRETTY QUICKLY.

UM, IF LEFT ABANDONED AND FRONT FREDERICK COUNTY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A SIMILAR GOLF COURSE COMMUNITY THAT HAS ALSO BEEN ABANDONED AND HAS BEEN A BURDEN, UM, TO THAT COMMUNITY IN OTHER AREAS LIKE LOUDOUN COUNTY.

SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT USE FOR THE BUILDING TO BRING IT BACK, YOU KNOW, TO ITS LIFE.

AND KIND OF GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL USE OF THE COMMUNITY THERE.

YOU KNOW, WE ALL EXPERIENCE TWO THINGS IN LIFE, RIGHT? IT'S TAXES AND DEATH, BUT I THINK THE THIRD IS CHANGE.

AND WHILE CHANGE IS HARD, I'M SURE SOME OF THE COMMUNITY WASN'T HAPPY WHEN IT CONVERTED FROM A FARM TO A GOLF COURSE.

UM, BUT THE PROPERTY THERE IS ALL AGRICULTURE.

EVEN THE COMMUNITIES WITH HOMES, THEY DO NOT HAVE AN HOA OR ANY COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS.

SO SOME OF THEM EVEN HAVE OTHER ANIMALS ON THEIR PROPERTIES.

AND I THINK IT'S JUST A GREAT ADD TO THE COMMUNITY AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR APPROVAL.

I THINK OUR NUMBER ONE CONCERN ABOVE ALL WAS THE POTENTIAL FOR IT TO BE CHOPPED UP INTO, YOU KNOW, MANY SMALL PIECES OR DEVELOPED IN A WAY THAT WOULD REALLY, UH, TRANSFORM THE CHARACTER OF IT, UM, YOU KNOW, IN A WAY THAT WOULD CHANGE THE, THE BEAUTY AND PEACEFULNESS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WE SAW, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WAS WHY WE COMMITTED OURSELVES TO THE COMMUNITY TO BEGIN WITH.

I'M GONNA GET THIS WRONG.

SHEILA RO.

HI .

UM, HI.

THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

UM, I'M SHEILA WODA, AND, UH, MY HUSBAND AND I ARE HOMEOWNERS, UH, IN ROCKLAND, UH, ACTUALLY, UH, WITHIN SIGHT OF, UH, OF THE PLANNED SCHOOL.

AND I WANTED TO SPEAK BRIEFLY IN SUPPORT OF THE SCHOOL, ALTHOUGH APPARENTLY I HAVE PLENTY OF COMPANY.

UM, UH, WE ARE, UM, PROBABLY THE NEWEST, UH, RESIDENT OF THE AREA, JUST HAVING FINISHED OUR BRAND NEW HOUSE AND MOVED INTO IT ON SATURDAY.

AND, UH, SO NATURALLY WHILE WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING IT AND HEARD THAT THE LAND HAD BEEN SOLD, WE WERE VERY CONCERNED, UM, ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH IT.

UM,

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UM, I, UH, SO FOR THAT REASON, I THINK THIS PROPOSAL, WHICH KEEPS THE, THE LAND OR A LARGE PART OF THE LAND IN ONE PIECE.

AND, UH, WE'VE ALSO JUST BEEN VERY IMPRESSED BY THE RESPONSIVENESS OF THE SCHOOL LEADERSHIP, UH, TO THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY.

UM, WE THOUGHT WITH THE, THE APPROVAL OF THE YOUTH PERMIT, THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE PLACED ON IT WERE VERY WISELY THOUGHT OUT.

UM, SO IN SHORT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF IT AND HOPE THAT IT CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD.

I AM WITH THE HAPPY CREEK DISTRICT.

UM, I WANTED TO ALSO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE SCHOOL AND IN SUPPORT OF THE SCHOOL.

I HAVE FOUR CHILDREN WHO GO THERE CURRENTLY.

UM, WE LIVE IN TOWN AND, UM, WE LOVE THE ROCKLAND AREA.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE CHOSE TO SEND OUR CHILDREN TO THIS SCHOOL IS BECAUSE THE RURAL ASPECT, WE ARE IN TOWN.

WE ARE NOT IN A PLACE TO BUY 20 ACRES, UM, OFF OF DALE AT THIS POINT.

WE'D LOVE TO, BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE WE ARE.

AND SO THIS SCHOOL CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR KIDS TO EXPERIENCE THIS.

WE WANTED TO RAISE THEM IN AN AREA THAT HAD THAT SIMILAR VALUES.

AND I THINK THAT THE SCHOOL VERY MUCH MIRRORS THE VALUES OF WARREN COUNTY, BUT ALSO ROCKLAND IN PARTICULAR.

UM, MY FAMILY IS HERE, MY SIBLINGS ARE HERE.

I HAVE SOME, MY KIDS HAVE SOME COUSINS AT THE SCHOOL, WHICH IS AMAZING.

WE ARE, A LOT OF US ARE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS.

I THINK SOMETHING ABOUT PROBABLY AROUND 50% OF THE PARENTS WHOSE CHILDREN ATTEND THIS SCHOOL OWN SMALL BUSINESSES LOCALLY.

SO WE ARE HOMEOWNERS, BUSINESS OWNERS AND INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE PAYING TAXES IN WARREN COUNTY AND STILL CHOOSING TO MAKE THE SACRIFICES TO SEND OUR KIDS TO THESE, TO THIS PRIVATE SCHOOL BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN THE MISSION AND WANNA BE ABLE TO EXPOSE OUR CHILDREN TO THINGS LIKE ANIMAL HUSBANDRY, WHICH I DID NOT GROW UP WITH.

I NO IDEA.

CHICKENS.

NO THANKS.

WE ARE FRIENDS WITH EGGS.

IT'S GREAT.

UM, BUT YES, WE JUST ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT, UM, IN THIS ENDEAVOR.

'CAUSE IT IS A REALLY UNIQUE SCHOOL AND THERE'S NOT MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT.

AND WE WOULD, WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

I'M IN THE SHENANDOAH DISTRICT.

AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS ACTUALLY TWO OF YOUR, OR YOUR QUESTION MR. BUTLER, ABOUT WHAT THE OBJECTIONS MIGHT HAVE BEEN.

UM, I MOVED INTO FRONT ROYAL IN 1980, AND I RENTED THE OLD FARMHOUSE AT THE END OF THE, AT WHAT, WHAT IS THE END OF THE GOLF COURSE NOW? FROM LINWOOD AND NELLIE MAE MORRISON.

UM, AND AT THE TIME THAT WAS ALL, UH, SOYBEAN FIELDS AND CORN FIELDS, AND I REMEMBER IT WAS REALLY HARD ON LINWOOD WHEN HE HAD TO TURN IT, UH, THE GOVERNMENT MADE IT TOO DIFFICULT TO RAISE CROPS ANYMORE, SO WE TURNED IT INTO A GOLF COURSE, WHICH MY CHILDREN ENJOYED FINDING GOLF, GOLF, GOLF BALLS AND SELLING 'EM BACK TO GOLFERS.

UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, THE, THE NEIGHBORS WERE CONCERNED THAT WE WERE GONNA KEEP THE MISSION, KEEP THE, THE SENSE OF ROCKLAND ALIVE.

AND I'VE, I'VE LOVED ROCKLAND ALL MY LIFE.

I I STILL GO OUT THERE ALL THE TIME.

UM, AND I THINK THAT THIS SCHOOL WILL DO THAT.

NELLIE MAE LOVED BEAUTY.

UH, LINWOOD LOVED THE, THE FARM, AND THIS IS WHAT THIS SCHOOL IS ALL ABOUT.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER, THE OTHER QUESTION THAT SOME OF THE RESIDENTS HAD WAS, UH, SOME OF THE OLDER RESIDENTS, SOME OF THE RETIRED PEOPLE WHO LIVE OUT THERE, THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT A WILD, CRAZY SCHOOL.

WELL, I ALSO HAVE ALL MY GRANDCHILDREN AT THIS SCHOOL.

I ALSO TEACH PART-TIME.

I GO TO ALL THEIR SPORTS GAMES.

AND I CAN TELL YOU, THESE ARE WONDERFUL CHILDREN.

AND IF ANYTHING, THEY'LL BE VOLUNTEERING TO, TO SHOVEL DRIVEWAYS AND, AND, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WONDERFUL CHILDREN TO BE AROUND.

AND I THINK THAT, UM, THE COMMUNITY WILL REALLY BENEFIT BY HAVING THIS SCHOOL.

SO I THANK , UH, SLOAN.

CASEY, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS SLOAN CASEY AND I'M FROM SOUTH RIVER DISTRICT.

UM, I ALSO, I, MY SON IS AT

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THE SCHOOL AND SPEAKING IN BEHALF OF THE SCHOOL.

IT IS JUST A WONDERFUL PLACE FOR HIM.

UM, WE LOVE, WE LOVE GOING THERE.

UM, WE LOVE THE PEOPLE AND THE TEACHERS.

UM, AND WE THINK THAT THIS, OUR SMALL RURAL SCHOOL WOULD BE A GREAT FIT FOR THE BEAUTIFUL ROCKLAND COMMUNITY, UM, FOR BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE SCHOOL.

AND WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE CUP.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

ROBERT HENKIN.

ROBERT HENKIN, UH, NORTH RIVER DISTRICT.

I'M ONE OF THOSE TALL PEOPLE, SORRY.

UM, AS CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF JOHN PAUL, THE GREAT MONTESSORI ACADEMY AND HUSBAND TO THE HEAD OF THE SCHOOL.

I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU, UM, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, CHAIRWOMAN COLORS.

YOU MET WITH US FOUR YEARS AGO, RIGHT? SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PANDEMIC TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO SHOEHORN A SCHOOL INTO A BARN.

UH, IT OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T WORK OUT, IT COST WAY TOO MUCH MONEY, BUT, UM, HERE WE ARE NOW, YOU KNOW, AND THROUGH THE GUIDANCE AND ADVICE OF ALL THE, THE BOARD MEMBERS, I'VE WORKED WITH VICKI ON THE BROADBAND COMMITTEE.

AND I'VE WORKED WITH THE REST OF YOU ON OTHER PERSONAL STUFF, SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU AND ON BEHALF OF COLLEEN AND I, UM, WE APPRECIATE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AGAIN, SEEING IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH, AND THEN SEEING THAT THE NEXT GENERATION OF BUSINESS OWNERS THAT WILL PROBABLY STAY IN WARREN COUNTY LANDOWNERS, UM, WE JUST SEE A LOT OF LOVE FROM THIS COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S WARREN COUNTY, NOT JUST OUR SCHOOL.

'CAUSE WHEN WE PLAY OTHER SCHOOLS IN THIS AREA, WE SEE KIND KIDS.

WE ALSO SEE THE VALUE, THE LOVE THAT THOSE KIDS GIVE TO US.

SO, UM, WE CAN ONLY THINK THAT THIS PROPERTY WILL HELP US BECOME TO FULL POTENTIAL WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SHOEHORNED IN THE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.

UH, WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH TRYING NOT TO CLOG THE ARTERIES OF TRAFFIC WITH THE PARKING AND DROP OFF.

UM, SO WE WANT TO, WE, WE JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU AND WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

LYDIA HIXSON.

HELLO, MY NAME IS LYDIA HICKSON AND I'M FROM NANDO DISTRICT.

UM, I'M IN EIGHTH GRADE AT THE SCHOOL, AND I'VE BEEN AT THE SCHOOL SINCE THE BEGINNING.

IT'S A REALLY GREAT PLACE TO LEARN AND I LOVE BEING AT THE METHODIST IS SO COOL.

WE GET TO GO TO MASS EVERY DAY.

BUT I ALSO THINK THAT IF WE GET THIS BOWLING GREEN PROPERTY, WE'LL BE ABLE TO KIND OF LIKE, BE OUTSIDE AND EXPAND OTHER KNOWLEDGES.

NOT AS LIKE BEING, AS A STUDENT.

I LOVE LOOKING OUT THE WINDOW AND NOT JUST SEEING A BUILDING, BUT SEEING A TREE OR SOMETHING.

UM, I, I LOVE THIS SCHOOL AND IT'S TAUGHT ME MOSTLY EVERYTHING I KNOW THAT MY MOM HAS NOT TAUGHT ME AT HOME, .

BUT, UM, SO LIKE HE SAID IN THE PRAYER EARLIER, HE SAID, KNOCK ON THE DOOR WILL BE OPEN.

THIS IS ME KNOCKING.

I'M ASKING THAT YOU OPEN THE DOOR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

ANN JOHNSON.

HI, ANN JANSSEN, 6 5 1 COLD BROOK LANE.

UM, MY HUSBAND AND I, WE HAVE FOUR KIDS CURRENTLY AT THE SCHOOL AND WE MOVED FROM COLORADO TO BE A PART OF THE ROCKLAND COMMUNITY.

UM, WE LOVE ROCKLAND.

WE BOUGHT LAND THERE.

WE LOVE THE BEAUTY.

UM, AND WE ALSO LOVE J-P-G-M-A.

WE, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF SCHOOLS HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY, BUT WE CHOSE J-P-G-M-A.

WE LOVE WHAT THEY SUPPORT AND WE, WE LOVE WHAT THEIR MISSION IS.

UM, AND I THINK J-P-G-M-A WILL REALLY ENHANCE AND ENRICH, UM, THE ROCKLAND COMMUNITY.

SO I JUST WANT TO SHOW MY SUPPORT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU MARY MAVERICK.

IT'S MARIE MAI AND I'M IN THE HAPPY CREEK DISTRICT.

UM, THANK YOU.

I'M JUST GONNA ECHO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID.

AND THE ONLY THING I THINK I WOULD ADD, UM, IS JUST TO GIVE TESTAMENT TO THE SINCERITY OF THE TEACHERS AND STAFF WHEN, WHEN, WHEN THEY SAY OUR EFFORTS TO ENGAGE THE ROCKLAND COMMUNITY WAS NOT JUST A ONE-TIME THING.

AND I REALLY CAN, UM, CAN JUST GIVE TESTIMONY TO THE FACT THAT THE TEACHERS AND STAFF ARE REALLY VERY GENUINE.

WE WERE REALLY BLESSED THIS YEAR TO RENT FROM THE METHODIST CHURCH.

UM, AND WE'VE HAD A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

UM, OUR KIDS WEEKLY TAKE TURNS.

THE METHODIST CHURCH HAS A, A SOUP KITCHEN TYPE LUNCH AND OUR KIDS TAKE TURNS, BAKING COOKIES AND SAMPLING.

I'VE

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HEARD.

UM, BUT WE HAVE A REALLY GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT, THAT I KNOW, UM, THIS EFFORT TO REALLY ENGAGE THE ROCKLAND COMMUNITY WAS NOT A ONE TIME THING.

AND, UM, LIKE SHARON HICKSON SAID, OUR KIDS ARE THE TYPE OF KIDS THAT REALLY WILL, UM, CHERISH HAVING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HUGH NORTON.

HELLO, HUGH NORTON.

AND, UH, I LIVE IN ROCKLAND AND MY KIDS GO TO THE SCHOOL AND SO WE'RE REALLY THRILLED, UH, ABOUT ALL THIS.

HOPEFULLY, UM, I'M NOT GONNA REPEAT EVERYTHING THAT MY FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS HAVE SAID SO ELOQUENTLY ALREADY BEFORE ME, BUT, SO JUST, I SUPPORT THE SCHOOL AND, UH, I HOPE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET APPROVAL.

PAUL VIC, I PAUL VAC.

I'M IN THE SHENANDOAH DISTRICT AND MY WIFE AND I HAVE SIX KIDS AT JOHN ARE GREAT.

UM, MOSTLY EVERYTHING'S BEEN SAID.

I JUST THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

I'M IMPRESSED THAT YOUR PATIENTS WERE SITTING THROUGH THESE HEARINGS ON A REGULAR BASIS, SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

ONLY THING I'D ADD IS THAT ONE ASPECT OF SCHOOL THAT REALLY I IMPRESSES ME IS JUST HOW IT'S BUILDING RESPONSIBLE INDEPENDENT LEADERS.

IT'S KIND OF MONTESSORI OF WHAT THEY SEEK TO HAVE THESE LEADERS WHO ARE PART OF THEIR COMMUNITY.

SO WHATEVER COMMUNITY IT'S IN, I BELIEVE THE SCHOOL AND THE STUDENTS WILL BE AN ASSET TO IT, UM, AND SORT OF BUILD UP AND CREATE FRUITFULNESS IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

I HOPE YOU'LL VOTE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE SIGNED UP.

WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? SECOND CALL.

ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? THIRD AND FINAL.

SO A HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT? I, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION? YEAH.

UM, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST OF THE JOHN PAUL THE GREAT MONTESSORI ACADEMY FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

DASH OH THREE DASH OH ONE JOEL DERICKSON.

GOOD LUCK ON YOUR SCHOOL.

I, I'LL GIVE YOU A FEW MINUTES 'CAUSE I ASSUME YOU'RE NOT STAYING FOR THE REST OF OUR MEETING.

2024

[I. Public Hearing: CUP2024-03-01 Joel Didriksen - A request for a conditional use permit for a ShortTerm Tourist Rental. The property is located at 3017 Blue Mountain Road and identified on tax map 16A, section 1, block 1, lot 21. The property is zoned Residential-One (R-1) and located in the Blue Mountain subdivision and in the Shenandoah Magisterial District. - Chase Lenz, Zoning Administrator]

I HOPE I DIDN'T SAY THAT TOO BAD.

UM, A REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR SHORT TERM TAURUS RENTAL.

THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED AT 30 17 BLUE MOUNTAIN ROAD AND IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 16 A SECTION ONE BLOCK ONE LOT 21.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL R ONE AND LOCATED IN THE BLUE MOUNTAIN SUBDIVISION IN THE NANOR MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT.

MR. LEN.

MAXIMUM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS SHALL NOT EXCEED THE SYSTEM CAPACITY AS DETERMINED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT PERMIT PER WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTION 180 DASH 56.4 B.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL FOR THE PROPERTY THEY PURCHASED IN APRIL OF 2020.

THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE PROPERTY AVAILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM LODGING FOR VISITORS OF THE WARREN COUNTY AREA WHEN THEY'RE NOT USING THE PROPERTY.

THE OWNER AND APPLICANT HAVE AN EXTENSIVE HISTORY OF HOSTING PROPERTIES FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN WASHINGTON DC USING THE AIRBNB PLATFORM PRIMARILY RESIDING IN DC.

THE APPLICANT HAS ENGAGED A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER TO SERVE THIS PROPERTY AS THE LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER.

UH, SO AS MENTIONED IT IS IN THE BLUE MOUNTAIN SUBDIVISION.

WE DID RECEIVE COMMENTS FROM THE BLUE MOUNTAIN POA BOARD OF DIRECTORS RECOMMENDING THE APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.

THEY HAVE A HEALTH DEPARTMENT PERMIT, WHICH APPROVES A MAXIMUM OF FOUR OCCUPANTS FOR A TWO BEDROOM DWELLING AND, UH, THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN.

THE DWELLING MEETS THE REQUIRED 100 FOOT SETBACK FROM NEIGHBORING DWELLINGS WITH THE NEAREST DWELLING LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 185 FEET TO THE EAST.

AND I WILL READ THROUGH THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.

UH, FOR THIS FIRST ONE, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT'S DIFFERENT FOR, UH, THE OTHER, UH, SHORT TERM ROUND WE HAVE TONIGHT.

SO, CONDITION NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND VIRGINIA STATEWIDE FIRE PREVENTION CODE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.

NUMBER TWO.

THE

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THE CERTIFICATE OF ZONING SHALL ONLY BE ISSUED WITH APPROVED HEALTH DEPARTMENT RECORDS.

THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE WELL WATER TESTED ANNUALLY FOR ECOLINE AND CALIFORNIA BACTERIA AND A COPY OF THE RESULTS SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING AND HEALTH DEPARTMENTS.

NUMBER FOUR, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE SEPTIC SYSTEM INSPECTED ANNUALLY BY A STATE LICENSE INSPECTOR AND A COPY OF THE RESULTS SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING AND HEALTH DEPARTMENTS.

THE SYSTEM SHALL ALSO BE SERVICED EVERY FIVE YEARS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND A COPY OF THE SERVICE INVOICE SHALL BE PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

NUMBER FIVE, THE DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS AND HUNTING ON THE PROPERTY BY GUESTS SHALL BE PROHIBITED.

NUMBER SIX, THE USE OF ALL TERRAIN VEHICLES BY GUESTS ON THE PROPERTY AND WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION SHALL BE PROHIBITED.

AND NUMBER SEVEN, OUTDOOR BURNING AND USE OF FIREWORKS BY S SHALL BE PROHIBITED.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY AND UH, THE APPLICANT WAS NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT TONIGHT, BUT THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED AND I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I APPEAR THIS WHOLE THING.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR UH, MR AT THIS POINT? AND SINCE THE APPLICANT'S NOT HERE TO SPEAK, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? NO MA'AM.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME? SECOND CALL.

ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK? THIRD AND FINAL, DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. LENS ON THIS HEARING? NONE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST OF JOEL DERICKSON FOR A SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL WITH CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF? SECOND.

PUBLIC HEARING IS CUP 2024 DASH OH THREE DASH OH TWO JENNIFER WYNN, A REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL.

UH, ROLL CALL MR. HENDERSON.

[J. Public Hearing: CUP2024-03-02 Jennifer Wynn - A request for a conditional use permit for a ShortTerm Tourist Rental. The property is located at 703 Sunset Village Rd. and identified on tax map 27D, section 1, lot 9A. The property is zoned Residential-One (R-1) and located in the Junewood Estates subdivision and the Fork Magisterial District. - Chase Lenz, Zoning Administrator]

THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED AT 7 0 3 SUNSET VILLAGE ROAD IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 27 D SECTION ONE LOT NINE A.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONE RESIDENTIAL R ONE AND LOCATED IN THE JUNE ESTATE SUBDIVISION IN THE FORK MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT.

MR. LENS, THANK YOU.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ON BEHALF OF THE CURRENT OWNER WHO PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN MARCH OF 2022.

THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE PROPERTY AVAILABLE FOR SHORT, SHORT-TERM LODGING FOR VISITORS OF THE WARREN COUNTY AREA.

WHEN THEY'RE NOT USING THE PROPERTY PRIMARILY RESIDING IN STRASSBURG VA, THE APPLICANT WILL SERVE AS THE LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER.

UM, SO AS MENTIONED THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE JUNE WOOD ESTATE SUBDIVISION.

WE REQUESTED COMMENTS FROM THE JUNE WOOD ESTATES AND SUNSET VILLAGE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

UM, THE COMMENTS INDICATE THAT THEY DO NOT OBJECT TO THE USE OR RESTRICT, UH, THE USE OF A PROPERTY AS A SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL IN THEIR BYLAWS AND COVENANTS.

UH, THERE'S A HEALTH DEPARTMENT OPERATION PERMIT APPROVES A MAXIMUM OF SIX OCCUPANTS FOR THE THREE BEDROOM DWELLING AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED THEIR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN.

UH, THE DWELLING MEETS THE REQUIRED A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACK FROM NEIGHBORING DWELLINGS WITH THE NEAREST SWELLING LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 250 FEET TO THE NORTH.

UM, SO IT IS THE STANDARD CONDITIONS WE'RE RECOMMENDING, UM, WITH AN ADDITION OF CONDITION NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH READS THE APPLICANT SHALL REMOVE ALL TREES PLANTED WITHIN 10 FEET OF THE DRAIN FIELD AREAS ON THE PROPERTY PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF ZONING.

AND TO JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE CONTEXT, WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UM, SAYING THAT THERE WERE SOME, SOME TREES, UM, PLANTED ON A, A DRAIN FIELD THAT SERVES THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.

THERE'S AN EASEMENT THERE AND UM, THE APPLICANT CAN CONFIRM FOR YOU, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF THAT.

UM, BUT OTHERWISE IT IS THE STANDARD CONDITIONS WE'RE RECOMMENDING.

UH, THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.

ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? HI, JENNIFER WYNN, 1 4 9 SOUTH FUNK STREET IN STRASSBURG, VIRGINIA.

AND I'M JUST HERE TO SAY WE DID REMOVE, THERE WAS 11 TREES WE HAD TO MOVE THAT HAD BEEN PLANTED ON A NEIGHBORING, UM, SEPTIC.

WE'VE MOVED THOSE AND, UH, TAKEN CARE OF AND I WILL BE MANAGING THE PROPERTY.

I ONLY LIVE ABOUT 20 MINUTES AWAY FROM THERE.

AND THERE'S PLENTY OF OTHER HOUSES THERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE ON THE AIRBNB FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL TOO AND SEEMS TO BE, YOU KNOW, WORKS OUT WELL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT? THANK YOU MA'AM.

MR. ANDERSON.

HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR THIS? NO MA'AM.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

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SECOND CALL.

ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? THIRD AND FINAL OF THE HEARING IS CLOSED.

ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUESTS OF JENNIFER WIND FOR A SHORT TERM TOUR RENTAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF? SECOND.

PUBLIC HEARING IS PUT CP 2024 DASH OH THREE DASH OH FOUR JACK DONNA FOR A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A CONTRACTOR STORAGE YARD.

WE CALL MR. HENDERSON.

[K. Public Hearing: CUP2024-03-04 Jack Donohue - A request for a conditional use permit for a Contactor Storage Yard. The property is located at (O) Winners Ct. and identified on tax map 5, lot 11B. The property is zoned Industrial (l) and located in the Walker-Brugh subdivision and the North River Magisterial District. - Chase Lenz, Zoning Administrator]

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT ZERO WINTERS COURT AND IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP FIVE LOT 11 B.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL AND LOCATED IN THE WALKER BREW SUBDIVISION IN THE NORTH RIVER ADMINIS DISTRICT.

AND MR. LENS, THIS IS YOURS.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR CONTRACTOR STORAGE YARD FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WHICH HE'S CURRENTLY LEASING.

THE APPLICANT IS THE OWNER OF TIMBERWORKS TREE CARE, A LANDSCAPING AND HORTICULTURAL SERVICES BUSINESS LOCATED ON AN ADJACENT PROPERTY AT 4 0 4 FAIRGROUND ROAD.

THE PROPOSED USE INCLUDES STORAGE OF LUMBER, MULCH, OTHER WOOD PRODUCT CONTRACTORS, EQUIPMENT, AND VEHICLES RELATED TO THE OPERATION OF THE ADJACENT LANDSCAPING BUSINESS.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY USED FOR A STORAGE OF WOOD MATERIALS FOR THE ADJACENT LANDSCAPING BUSINESS AND THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN FOR REVIEW, WHICH WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKETS UPON RECEIPT OF THE SITE PLAN PLANNING STAFF COMMUNICATED WITH THE APPLICANT THAT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A CONTRACTOR STORAGE YARD WILL BE REQUIRED PRIOR TO CIP PLAN APPROVAL SINCE THE PRINCIPAL USE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS STORAGE OF TIMBER MATERIALS AND CONTRACTORS EQUIPMENT.

UM, SO AS MENTIONED, IT IS A ZONED INDUSTRIAL, I BELIEVE IT'S SURROUNDED BY INDUSTRIAL ZONING.

UM, AND THERE ARE NO, UH, SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS FOR A CONTRACTOR STORAGE YARD NOR A A DEFINITION.

SO ALL OF OUR RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS WERE BASED ON COMMENTS WE RECEIVED FROM AGENCIES, UH, AS FOUR CONDITIONS RECOMMENDING CONDITION NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS, WARREN COUNTY FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES, WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AND VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY APPLICABLE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.

NUMBER TWO, A SITE PLAN SHALL BE PREPARED AND SUBMITTED TO THE WARREN COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT WITHIN 90 DAYS OF ISSUANCE OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

THE SITE PLAN SHALL INCLUDE INGRESS, EGRESS, STORAGE AREAS, OUTDOOR LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING SCREENING, AND OTHER ITEMS NECESSARY TO VERIFY COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

NUMBER THREE, ALL LIGHT FIXTURES SHALL BE FULLY SHIELDED AND SHALL COMPLY WITH WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTION 180 DASH 42.2 OR 49.2 FOR LIGHTING.

NUMBER FOUR.

THE SITE PLAN SHALL COMPLY WITH WARREN COUNTY CODE SECTION 180 DASH 49.1 REGARDING LANDSCAPING.

AND NUMBER FIVE OUTDOOR STORAGE AREAS SHALL BE SCREENED FROM VIEW OF WINTERS COURT AND FAIRGROUND ROAD WITH FENCING APPROVED BY COUNTY STAFF.

SUCH FENCING SHALL BE A MINIMUM OF SIX FEET IN HEIGHT AND MAY CONSIST OF CHAIN LINK WITH OPAQUE FABRIC COVERING SLATS OR SIMILAR EL ELEMENTS TO ACHIEVE VISUAL SCREENING.

UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MOVED THIS FOR FORWARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY AND THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.

ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? THANKS CHASE.

UM, JACKED ON YOU 3 59 RIDGEWAY ROAD.

I DON'T AGAIN, HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO ADD.

I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS IF ANYONE HAS ANY.

UM, CHASE PRETTY MUCH WENT OVER EVERYTHING ALREADY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU SIR.

AND AGAIN, MR. HENDERSON, DO YOU NEED SIGN UP? NO MA'AM.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME? SECOND CALL.

ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS? IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST OF JACK DONAHUE FOR A CONTRACTOR STORAGE YARD WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF? MR. SECOND? SECOND.

UH, LEASE AGREEMENT HANGER B 17 TO YOU ANDREW GAS, THESE MATTERS.

MOTION PASSES PUBLIC HEARING,

[L. Public Hearing - Lease Agreement of Hangar B17 to Andrew Gass - Mike Berry, Public Works Director Mike Berry, Public Works Director]

HI, HOW ARE YOU? UM, THE COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO LEASE HANGAR B 17 LOCATED AT 2 2 9 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD,

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UM, TO ANDREW GAS FOR THE MONTHLY RENT OF $350.

UM, THIS LEASE, UM, OR SORRY, THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN APPROPRIATELY ADVERTISED.

PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. MATTERS ON THIS ISLAND HEARING THEN? UM, MR. HENDERSON, ANYONE SIGN UP FOR THIS ONE? NO MA'AM.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? SECOND CALL.

ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? THIRD AND FINAL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE LEASE FOR HANGAR B 17 LOCATED AT 2 29 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD, FRONT ROYAL VIRGINIA 2 2 6 3 OH WITH ANDREW GAS FOR THE MONTHLY RENT OF $350.

HEARING IS THE LEASE AGREEMENT OF HANGER A 14 TO OTIS BLAKE BACON, THIS MATTERS.

[M. Public Hearing - Lease Agreement of Hangar A14 to Otis Blake Bacon - Mike Berry, Public Works Director - Mike Berry, Public Works Director]

UM, THE KE WOULD LIKE TO LEASE HANGER A 14 LOCATED AT 2 2 9 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD, UM, TO OTIS BLAKE BACON FOR THE MONTHLY RENT OF $350.

THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN APPROPRIATELY ADVERTISED.

HEARING IS OPEN.

ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR THIS ONE, MR. ANDERSON? NO MA'AM.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK SECOND? ANYONE? THIRD AND FINAL HEARING IS THERE MOTION ON ITEM MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE LEASE OF HANGAR A 14 LOCATED AT 2 2 9 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD, FRONT ROYAL VIRGINIA 2 2 6 3 0 WITH OTIS BLAKE BACON FOR A MONTHLY RENT OF $350.

PUBLIC HEARING, UH, LEASE AGREEMENT OF 1 7 9 STATES AIRPORT ROAD.

YOU CALL MR. SIR MRS. COOK AYE.

[N. Public Hearing - Lease Agreement of 179 Stokes Airport Rd. - Mike Berry, Public Works Director]

THE COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO LEASE THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 7 9 AIR STOKES AIRPORT ROAD, UM, TO ZACHARY HENDERSON FOR $850 PER MONTH AND THE PROVIDING OF CERTAIN SERVICES BY THE LEASEE.

THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN APPROPRIATELY ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE, MR. HENDERSON? ANYONE SIGN UP? NO, MA'AM.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SECOND CALL.

ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? THIRD AND FINAL, THE HEARING IS CLOSED, PLEASE.

A MOTION I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE LEASE OF 1 71 79 STOKES AIRPORT ROAD, FRONT ROYAL VIRGINIA 2 2 6 3 OH WITH ZACHARY HENDERSON FOR A MONTHLY RENT OF $850 AND PROVIDING OF CERTAIN SERVICES BY THE LEASE.

SECOND WILL CALL MR. HENDERSON.

AND THAT COMPLETES OUR PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'LL

[E. Public Comment Period (60 Minute Time Limit) (Part 2 of 2)]

GO BACK TO PUBLIC COMMENT TIME.

UM, WE HAD GOTTEN TO THE POINT NO ONE ELSE WAS SIGNED UP, CORRECT? UH, NO MA'AM.

THERE WAS ANOTHER SPEAKER.

DON'T LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME.

NO, THERE, SORRY.

THERE WAS ONE PERSON WHO SIGNED, OH, THERE WAS ONE.

I'M SORRY.

UM, MEGAN MARRAZZO.

HELLO, I AM MEGAN MARRAZZO.

I AM IN THE FORK DISTRICT.

AND NOT TO CIRCLE BACK TO ITS HIRED SUBJECT, BUT IT IS OF COURSE TAXES.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M CURRENTLY DOING, UH, FOR THE SMALL COMPANY THAT I WORK FOR IS CREATING A POTENTIAL NEW PAY STRUCTURE FOR SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES.

IT'S NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT UNDERTAKING, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO POTENTIALLY AFFECT A LOT OF PEOPLE.

NOT ONLY THE ONES TO WHOM THAT MONEY WOULD BE PAID TO, BUT THE ONES WHERE THAT IS COMING FROM, INCLUDING THE CLIENTS THAT WE SERVE.

THIS PROCESS REQUIRES THOROUGH EXPLANATION, DEFENSE OF MY PLAN TO BOTH MY BOSS AND HIS BOSS.

YOU KNOW, EVERYONE UP THE CHAIN NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS MONEY, WHY IT'S IMPORTANT, AND WHETHER IT'S A GOOD IDEA OR NOT.

THINGS HAVE ALREADY CHANGED WITH IT, THINGS MAY CONTINUE TO CHANGE, BUT IT'S ONLY THROUGH THE TRANSPARENCY OF THIS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE A SOLID DECISION TOGETHER.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL POSED DURING THE WORK SESSION IN ASKING ABOUT WAS GOING ON WITH THE

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BUDGET, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SCHOOL.

UH, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A BIG THING THAT, THAT IS CONSTANTLY BEING UNDERTAKEN AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS KIDS HERE IN THIS COUNTY ARE WELL SERVED.

SO I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS THAT THE BOARD AND, UH, THE BOARD OF THE SCHOOL, AND YOU AS THE BOARD, ARE NOT GIVEN ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED TO BE GIVEN TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IMPACT PEOPLE.

AND OF COURSE, YOU'RE ON A, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE WITH A LOT OF THIS.

AND SO I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE THE SITUATION THAT YOU FOUND YOURSELVES IN.

HOWEVER, I THINK IT HAS ALSO SHOWN THAT THE SCHOOL BUDGET CANNOT BE ADEQUATELY EXPLAINED NOR DEFENDED IN SUCH A WAY THAT MAKES IT SO THAT THEN INCREASING THE TAXES TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR SOMETHING ELSE MAKES SENSE.

I WOULD IMPLORE YOU THAT THE SCHOOL BUDGET IS REASSESSED AND THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO FULLY DEFEND THE LINE ITEMS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SEEKING TO INCREASE THAT SEEM LIKE THEY HAVE LITTLE TO NO REASON FOR THEM.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

FORD REPORTS, MR. SANDMEYER? UM, LET'S SEE.

THIRD AND FINAL, YOU WANNA MOVE ON TO

[F. Reports — Board Members, County Administrator, County Attorney]

I, UH, DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD.

I ATTENDED THE, UM, JOINT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UH, WITH THE TOWN, UH, LAST, WHAT WAS APRIL 24TH, I THINK.

AND, UH, UM, THAT WAS A, A GOOD MEETING TO SIT IN ON AND, AND BECOME AWARE OF SOME THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING HARD, UH, GOING THROUGH SOME OF THESE BUDGET NUMBERS, UH, THINKING ABOUT THE SCHOOLS AND THINKING ABOUT ON THE COUNTY SIDE.

UH, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN CUT AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU MR. BATMAN.

THE ONLY THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION WAS THAT, UH, I JUST LIKE, UH, MR. STAN MEYER HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE, THE SCHOOL BUDGETS.

I DO APPRECIATE ALL OF THE, THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GET FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS ON, UH, HOW DO THEY FEEL ABOUT THE, THE TAXES, HOW THEY'RE BEING SPENT, BECAUSE THE, UH, THAT, THAT HELPS, UH, THAT IT, AT LEAST IT HELPS ME TO, TO, UH, UH, DETERMINE WELL, WHICH WAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT, UH, WHAT UH, WHAT TYPE OF VOTE WILL I MAKE? BECAUSE FEEDBACK FROM MY CONSTITUENTS IS SO VERY IMPORTANT AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

UH, JUST JUST TO ECHO THAT IT, THAT IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A STEADY EFFORT TO GET THROUGH AND TO POUR OVER ALL THIS INFORMATION WE'VE GIVEN AND TRYING TO MAKE SOME KIND OF FORMULATION FOR, FOR SOMETHING THAT WORKS.

SO OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT.

BLESS YOU.

BLESS YOU, BLESS YOU.

UM, I JUST WANT TO GO OVER A FEW THINGS.

UM, APRIL 17TH, UM, BUSY DAY THERE.

STARTED OFF MY DAY ON A ZOO TRIP WITH MY THIRD GRADE, UH, GRANDSON.

AND, UM, ENDED UP WITH, UH, DRUG COURT ADVISORY MEETING THAT AFTERNOON.

THE DRUG COURT IS, UM, I THINK IT'S ON TRACK AND DOING, UM, HEADED IN A RIGHT DIRECTION FOR, UM, REMEDIATION OF PEOPLE WITH, UH, DRUG AND ALCOHOL ADDICTION.

AND I'M GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT UP AND RUNNING.

UM, THEN I WENT TO THE REACHING OUT NOW, UM, DINNER.

AND, UM, THAT'S, UH, IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN, WHEN THEY HAVE THOSE, IT'S A GOOD EVENT TO GO TO.

THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF GOOD THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, GOT THERE AT THE TAIL END OF IT.

SO, UM, UM, BUT THEY'VE GOT, THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS IN THE PAST YEAR AND HAVE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE FUTURE.

UH, APRIL 21ST, UM, EARTH DAY, THAT WAS, UH, LONE PIE DAY.

PINE DAY ON MAIN STREET.

THAT WAS A GREAT EVENT.

UH, A LOT OF GOOD, UM, VENDORS THERE WITH INFORMATION.

AND, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE INTO THAT.

APRIL 24TH, WE HAD THE JOINT SCHOOL AND COUNTY BUILDING COMMITTEE MEETING AND, UM, LFK IS COMING ALONG REALLY WELL.

THEY'RE, UM, AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, SO THEY'RE STILL DOING A LOT OF WORK, BUT IT'S AROUND THE OFFICE AREA, WHICH, UM, THEY'VE BEEN DOING WORK ON WEEKENDS AND EVENINGS BECAUSE TRYING TO DO THAT IN THE TRAFFIC FLOW OF THE OFFICE HAS BEEN A LITTLE DIFFICULT, BUT THEY'RE MANAGING REAL WELL.

THE STAFF AND CONTRACTOR HAVE REALLY WORKED WELL TOGETHER TO KEEP THAT MOVING.

UM, NOT ONLY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, BUT ON BUDGET.

UM, LET'S SEE, E WILSON MORRISON, UM, ANYONE WHO'S EVER BEEN TO YOU? WILSON MARON, YOU CAME IN THE DOOR IN

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THE FLOOR SLOPE 12.

THE DOOR IS NOW, THE FLOOR IS NOW EVEN FROM THE BACK ENTRANCE DOOR TO THE STAGE.

IT'S, IT'S JUST AMAZING THAT, UM, THEY STARTED THIS, I THINK THE END OF FEBRUARY.

AND, UM, THEY'VE, THEY'VE COME A LONG WAY.

THEY HOPE TO HAVE THAT DONE BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS IN AUGUST.

SO THAT WILL GIVE THOSE STUDENTS THERE FOR THE FIRST TIME A GYMNASIUM TO ACTUALLY HAVE PE CLASS IN, UM, TO APRIL 27TH.

I WENT TO THE LIBRARY'S TASTE OF BOOKS.

UM, WASN'T FEELING THAT GREAT, SO I DIDN'T TASTE THE FOOD, BUT OH MY GOODNESS, IT WAS A LOT OF GOOD LOOKING FOOD THERE.

BUT, UM, AND A IT COSTUMES WERE AMAZING.

IT WAS, UM, A HUGE EVENT THERE.

UM, MAY 2ND, WE HAD AN ALL POINTS BROADBAND, UM, MEETING IN PERSON.

UM, THEY, THE VENDORS WERE OFF TO A LITTLE BIT SLOW SART AND THEY'RE GETTING UP TO SPEED, NOT GOING AS FAST AS WOULD ANY OF US WOULD LIKE.

I STILL DON'T HAVE A DATE WHERE THEY SAY WE WILL BE IN WARREN COUNTY AND YOU WILL SEE WIRES GOING UP, WHICH IS JUST AS FRUSTRATING TO ME AS IT IS FOR ANY OF THE PEOPLE WAITING FOR IT TO BE HOOKED UP AT THEIR HOUSE.

I DON'T HAVE GOOD INTERNET EITHER, SO I'M IN THE SAME BOAT OF PAIN AS YOU ARE, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU WE ARE PUSHING.

UM, AND AS SOON AS I GET MORE INFORMATION, I WILL GIVE IT TO YOU.

UM, MAY 2ND.

I WENT TO THE WARREN COUNTY MIDDLE SCHOOL AND WARREN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOLS, FFA, FUTURE FARMERS OF AMERICA BANQUET.

THOSE KIDS AT THOSE TWO SCHOOLS ARE DOING AMAZING THING IN THE FUTURE FARMER PROGRAM.

AND, UM, I, I'M JUST REALLY IMPRESSED THAT IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, KIDS OF THAT AGE GROUP HAVE DONE AS MUCH COMPETITION WISE.

WE GOT PEOPLE WHO GO INTO STATES AND PLACE IN COLLEGE IN STATES IN THEIR COMPETITIONS THERE.

AND LASTLY, THIS IS TEACHER APPRECIATION WEEK.

SO IF YOU HAVE A STUDENT IN SCHOOL, YOU MIGHT WANNA REACH OUT AND TELL THEM YOU APPRECIATE THEM.

AND IT'S ALSO NURSES APPRECIATION WEEK AS WELL.

SO THAT ENDS MY REPORT.

I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT TONIGHT.

DALEY.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

UH, REMIND YOU THAT THE, UM, AUDITORS WILL BE HERE AT OUR WORK SESSION NEXT TUESDAY AND NEXT WEEK.

THE, UM, STATE LEGISLATURE WILL BE RECONVENING AND THERE IS HOPE THAT WE WILL HAVE A SIGNED BUDGET, UH, IN THE NEAR FUTURE FOR THE STATE.

UH, WE WILL ENCOURAGE YOU AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS, ANY LINE ITEMS IN THE COUNTY SIDE OF THE BUDGET YOU WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK AT.

PLEASE LET, UH, MRS. SCOTT OR ME KNOW, ASAP.

UH, WE, UM, WE LEAVE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUDGET IN YOUR CAPABLE HANDS AND YOU GIVE US A NUMBER AND WE'LL PLUG IT IN.

, UH, LOOKING AT THE PUBLIC HEARING TO BE JUNE 11TH, WHICH MEANS WE WILL BE AUTHORIZING THE ADVERTISEMENT ON THE 21ST OF MAY, WHICH MEANS NEXT WEEK WE WILL BE GOING THROUGH THE DEPARTMENTS ONE LAST TIME.

SO IF YOU HAVE ITEMS BEFORE THAT THAT YOU CAN SEND US, WE CAN GET THEM IN THERE.

AND THEN THE, UM, VOTE ON THE BUDGET IS ANTICIPATED TO BE JUNE THE 25TH.

UH, ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE STATE HAS FALLEN IN LINE THERE, WE WILL BE MOVING THAT WE NEED TO ADVERTISE TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE AND WE NEED TO HAVE AT LEAST SEVEN DAYS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD CAN VOTE.

AND BECAUSE OF JUNETEENTH AND ELECTION, THE SPECIAL MEETING WILL BE ON THE 25TH.

SO JUNE 11TH IS WHAT, AGAIN? JUNE 11TH WOULD BE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IT'S A SPECIAL MEETING.

IT'S A WORK SESSION RIGHT NOW, AND WE WOULD MAKE THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO THAT'S THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE BUDGET.

WE WON'T VOTE ON IT.

I CANNOT VOTE ON IT UNTIL AT LEAST SEVEN DAYS LATER.

SO THAT WILL BE THE 25TH BECAUSE THE 18TH IS JUNETEENTH AND THE ELECTION.

THAT'S TRUE.

BUT ANY, ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE IN OR OUT OF THE BUDGET BEFORE THAT TIME, IF YOU COULD GET THEM IN THIS WEEK, UH, IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

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THAT'S OKAY.

I HAVE NO REPORT THIS EVENING.

CAN I GET A COUPLE MINUTES? YEAH.

UM, CAN I REVERSE BACK ACTUALLY? YEAH.

UM, THIS IS ON OUR DESK AND I'D LIKE YOU TO TALK ABOUT IT.

UM, WE HAVE A NOTICE OF DELINQUENT TAXES, POTENTIAL JUDICIAL SALE OF REAL PROPERTY.

UH, YES.

WE RECENTLY GOT A REPORT OF A SALE OF, OR WAS IT 60 PARCELS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? UH, I, I WANNA ADDRESS FOR THE PUBLIC CONSUMPTION, THE, I, THE, THE FACT THAT WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING COLLECTIONS OF REAL, YOU KNOW, DELINQUENT TAXES.

AND, UM, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A SCHEDULE FOR THAT.

SO CAN, CAN YOU BRIEFLY REVIEW THAT? SO, UM, YES, WE CAN.

AND WE, YOU HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU DELIBERATELY.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS IT NOW OR WITH THE ITEM OF THE TAX TACS AS TAX THAT IS ON YOUR AGENDA UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA.

UH, WHAT SIX? WHERE IS IT AT HERE? I'M LOOKING THROUGH.

OH, OKAY.

IT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

IT'S NUMBER SIX.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO TALK ABOUT THIS NOW OR DO YOU WANT TO TAKE IT OFF AND TALK ABOUT IT AT THAT TIME? WE DO EITHER ONE.

THIS WOULD BE IN PREPARATION OF THE, JUST TALK ABOUT IT NOW.

JUST ADDRESS IT.

SO YOU HAVE A LIST OF OUR NEXT HEARING IN THE ITEM YOU SAW ON THE BACK, YOU SEE A LIST OF FUNDS COLLECTED BY TACS AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT LAST YEAR THEY COLLECTED 379,000.

THIS YEAR THEY'VE ALREADY COLLECTED AT THEIR FIRST SALE OVER 200,000.

AND YOU HAVE A LIST THAT WAS IN LAST WEEK'S PAPER THAT SHOWS YOU THIS NEXT SET THAT WILL GO FOR, UM, SALE ON JUNE 2ND IF PEOPLE HAVE NOT RESOLVED THEIR TAX ISSUES BEFORE THAT, UM, MRS. SHANKS TOLD YOU SHE WAS GOING TO WORK ON THIS, THAT IT WAS AN IMPORTANT PRIORITY.

AND SHE IS FOLLOWING UP ON THIS AND WE HAVE SOMEONE IN HER OFFICE DEDICATED TO THIS.

AND WE ALSO HAVE TACS.

WE'VE CONSOLIDATED THIS BECAUSE BASICALLY THE PERFORMANCE WOULD HELP OUR TOTAL BOTTOM LINE THERE.

SO WE HAD TWO CONTRACTORS THAT WERE ENGAGED IN THIS ACTIVITY AND NOW WE'VE CONSOLIDATED ONE WHO'S PERFORM CONSOLIDATED INTO ONE PERFORM YES.

AT HER RECOMMENDATION.

AND CAN YOU ADDRESS THE, THE RATE AT WHICH WE CAN HOPE TO, TO ADDRESS THESE DELINQUENCIES? I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY FOR EACH ONE.

NO, BUT THINK YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LIST LIKE THIS EVERY 30 TO 45 DAYS.

AND YOU'VE GOT APPROXIMATELY 40 NAMES ON THIS LIST.

40 DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.

AND SO I THINK YOU'LL BE SEEING A LIST LIKE THAT, UH, IF NOT ONCE A MONTH.

YOU'LL BE SEEING AT LEAST EVERY OTHER MONTH.

AND WE WILL SEE THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS HERE.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT THE, THE, THE CONTRACTOR, TACS THEMSELVES HAS A LIMITING FACTOR ON THE TIME IT TAKES THEM TO WORK THE PROCESS.

THEY HAVE ADDED, UH, THEY HAVE ADDED PERSONNEL TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT US AND TO MOVE THEM FORWARD QUICKER.

AND WE'RE WORKING ALSO WITH OUR EMPLOYEE WHO'S DEDICATED TO THIS NOW.

AND MRS. SHANKS IS WORKING WITH IT.

EXCUSE ME.

BUT THE TREASURER'S OFFICE IS WORKING WITH THAT AND ALSO WORKING WITH THE COLLECTION OF PERSONAL PROPERTY.

UH, THAT WE'RE NOW, UH, COLLECTING MUCH BETTER.

ALSO.

IS THERE ANY PROJECTION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR IN TERMS OF DELINQUENT COLLECTIONS OR DELINQUENT REVENUE? DELINQUENT BASED REVENUE? NOT, NOT AT THIS TIME.

WE WILL HAVE ONE IN THE BUDGET, SIR.

MORE THAN THEIR TAX TAXES OUTSTANDING.

BUT, UM, WE HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS THERE.

'CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL, WHEN THE WORD GETS OUT, PEOPLE WILL BE PAYING THEIR TAXES.

OKAY, WELL THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED, ISN'T IT? YES SIR.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT.

BUT, BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO COLLECT THERE.

WE WILL HAVE A NUMBER FOR THE NEW, THE NEW BUDGET.

REMIND YOU THAT LAST YEAR'S NUMBER, APPROXIMATELY 800 MA'AM.

IS THAT WHAT IT WAS? YEAH.

APPROXIMATELY EIGHT, LITTLE OVER 800,000 LAST YEAR THAT WAS COLLECTED.

AND WE, WE WILL SURPASS THAT THIS YEAR.

AND, AND DR.

DALEY IF, UM, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO, TO SELL IT FOR

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SO IF THEY PAY THEIR TAXES, WE, WE COME OUT THE SAME AS IF WE HAD SOLD IT MAYBE EVEN A LITTLE BETTER BECAUSE THERE'S NO COMMISSION IN THAT CASE.

IT'S ALWAYS BEST IF THEY COME IN AND PAY THEIR TAXES.

SIR, YES, WE COME OUT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

UM, WE CAN SELL THE PROPERTY FOR A HIRE, BUT IT GOES BACK TO THE TAXPAYER.

THAT DIFFERENCE IN THERE.

SO IF, UH, SOMEBODY LEAVES THEIR PROPERTY AND IT IS SOLD, PARTICULARLY VACANT LOTS, WE HAVE A LOT OF VACANT LOTS IN SOME OF THE SANITARY DISTRICTS WHERE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS LIST THAT, UH, THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ARE OWED, UH, A LOT OF IT COMES FROM VACANT LOTS IN SANITARY DISTRICTS THAT THE OWNERS DON'T PAY THE FEES.

NOW THIS IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST RIGHT NOW THIS IS, NO SIR.

THIS IS JUST, UH, A THROUGH JUST THE LITTLE LIST HERE.

A IT WAS GOING THROUGH H, K, AND L AND THEN THEY COMPANY ADDED A FEW AT THE VERY BOTTOM, THE R'S AND THE S'S.

BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF MORE IN BETWEEN.

THERE'LL BE, THERE'LL BE ANOTHER LIST WITHIN TWO MONTHS THAT YOU'LL SEE IF NOT IN THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF JUNE.

IF YOU DON'T SEE ONE IN JULY, IT'LL BE IN AUGUST.

TO NEW BUSINESS AND THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ALSO, IF YOU DON'T MIND, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, SO THE AUDITORS ARE COMING.

YES, MA'AM.

AND THIS IS FOR OUR, UM, AUDIT FOR LAST YEAR.

YES, MA'AM.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I THINK WE'RE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.

WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT, NOT NEARLY AS MUCH AS WE SHOULD BE.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

BUT WE ARE AHEAD OF WHAT THEY SAID LAST TIME.

SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO, UM, HAVE A DRAFT REPORT BEFORE WE, UM, BEFORE THE AUDITOR COMES TO PRESENT THE AUDIT.

I CANNOT PROMISE THAT PART.

WE HAVE ASKED FOR ONE, BUT I CANNOT PROMISE THAT WE WILL HAVE IT TO DISTRIBUTE TO YOU BEFORE.

HE MAY COME IN AND REPORT AND THEN LET US COME BACK WITH QUESTIONS AFTER I I CAN'T PROMISE THAT IT WILL.

MY REQUEST THEN WOULD BE IF WE DON'T HAVE A DRAFT REPORT BEFORE THE PRESENTATION, THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT AND THEN COME BACK.

THEN YOU CAN ALWAYS BACK CAN HAVE COME BACK.

BACK AND WE CAN ASK THE QUESTIONS AGAIN.

YEP.

'CAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE TIME TO REVIEW IT SINCE I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR IT FOR MONTHS.

YOU'VE BEEN VERY PATIENT.

IF NO OTHER QUESTIONS, WE'LL MOVE ON

[O. Consent Agenda]

ARE THERE ANY ITEMS TO PULL FOR THE, UH, DISCUSSION? YES, MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM 10.

A WORD OF THE CONTRACT.

BFI WASTE SERVICES.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS? , IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONCERN AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM 10? MADAM CHAIR IS SO MOVED.

[10. Award of Contract - BFI Waste Services, LLC DBA Republic Services of Winchester - Alisa Scott, Finance Director, Mike Berry, Public Works Director]

MS. SCOTT, WE'RE GONNA TAKE QUESTIONS.

UH, YEAH, SO, UM, EVERYONE KNOWS MY POSITION ON CONTRACTS WHEN I SEE THEM.

THE COUNTY HAS PREVIOUSLY SOLICITED AN AWARDED A CONTRACT TO BFI WASTE SERVICES LLC DOING BUSINESS AS REPUBLIC SERVICES OF WINCHESTER FOR SOLID WASTE TRANSPORTATION AND DISPOSAL FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IN APRIL, 2024.

THE INITIAL TERM OF THE CONTRACT IS FOR 12 MONTHS WITH THE OPTION OF NINE ONE YEAR RENEWALS FOR A MAXIMUM TOTAL CONTRACT PERIOD OF 10 YEARS.

AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH RENEWAL TERM, THE PRICE SHALL BE INCREASED BY A FACTOR EQUAL TO THE INCREASE IN THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX FOR ALL URBAN CONSUMERS, WHICH IS KNOWN AS A-C-P-I-U FOR ALL ITEMS OR SUCH SIMILAR INDEX AS MAY BE SUBSTITUTED, THEREFORE, AS PUBLISHED BY THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, UM, AS OF JUNE 15TH OF SUCH YEAR NOT TO EXCEED A 5% INCREASE TO EACH RENEWAL TERM.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THE BOARD APPROVE THE CONTRACT FOR SERVICES BETWEEN WARREN COUNTY AND B-F-I-O-A SERVICES, UH, L-L-C-D-B-A FOR PUBLIC SERVICES OF WINCHESTER.

AND THIS WAS AN RFP THAT THE COUNTY ISSUED.

WE RECEIVED ONE SOLICITATION AND THE COUNTY BUDGET IS, THERE'S A FEW MORE ITEMS LISTED ON THE COVER SHEET, UH, THAT HOLLY DISPOSAL.

AND SO THE PROPOSAL IS FOR, OR THE, UH, PROPOSED MOTION IS FOR THE BOARD TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT WITH BFI THIS EVENING.

QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD?

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AND, UM, FOR THE CONTRACT FOR SERVICES, AGAIN, WE HAVE THE, THE CONTRACT FOR SERVICES NARRATIVE.

AND THEN WHAT WE DO IS THAT WE ATTACH THE RFP PROPOSALS AND, AND INSERT EXHIBITS AND WE USE THE PROPOSAL PRO PRICING OF THE PRICE OF THE CONTRACT AND, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA REVISIT EVERYTHING LIKE WE DID THE OTHER DAY.

SO I'M JUST GONNA CUT THROUGH THE CHASE.

SO WITH THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT, I THINK IT WAS EXHIBIT C AND D, IT SAID THAT THE SERVICES, THE, THE PRICE WAS SOMETHING LIKE 5 537 K.

HOWEVER, THERE WERE OTHER SERVICES THAT ARE WHAT I CALL THE, YOU KNOW, UM, ANTICIPATED COSTS.

AND THEN TALKING WITH, UM, THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, MR. BARRY, I ASKED, WELL, IS IT JUST 537 K OR IS IT 537 K PLUS THESE OTHER IDENTIFIED, UM, EXCEPTIONS FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE 5 37? AND HIS ANSWER WAS YES.

SO HE CAME BACK AND HAD SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, THESE OTHER EXCEPTIONAL EXCEPTIONS OF SERVICES WOULD EQUATE THIS CONTRACT FOR THE YEAR TO BE APPROXIMATELY $1.5 MILLION.

WHICH IS NOT REFLECTED HERE.

IT JUST SAYS 500, 537 K, AND OH BY THE WAY, THESE OTHER SERVICES ARE WILL BE OCCURRING.

SO AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN SECTION THREE OF THE COMPOSITION AND METHOD OF PAYMENT OF SOMETHING OF NOT TO, YOU KNOW, A A, A NUMBER OF THE PRICE.

BECAUSE IF YOU GO IF, AND, AND MAYBE THIS IS JUST ME, BUT IF YOU GO BACK AND YOU LOOK AT THOSE EXHIBITS, AND IF YOU READ IT, YOU THINK THIS CONTRACT PRICE IS FOR 537 K, WHICH WERE NOT, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO BE, UM, ACCEPTING INVOICES ABOVE THAT AMOUNT, WHICH I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE SERVICES AT ALL, YOU KNOW, SO I I WOULD, YOU KNOW, LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, UM, UH, TABLE THIS, THIS AND UNTIL WE CAN PUT A, NOT TO EXCEED A 1.5 MILLION OR SOME SOMETHING IN, IN THIS.

BUT AGAIN, I KNOW THIS IS JUST, UH, ONE OF MY, UH, PET PEEVES AND I, SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION.

DANIELLA, WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT AT ALL, MA'AM.

THE EASY WAY TO DO IT, WE BELIEVE IS TO PUT IT IN THE MOTION, MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT NOT TO EXCEED $1.5 MILLION.

AND THE WITH THAT'RE THEN, THEN, THEN YOU'RE DONE.

AND IT IS DOCUMENTED.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU ADMINIS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE ADMINISTRATE WHOEVER ADMINISTERS THESE CONTRACTS, RIGHT? AND YOU'RE GONNA BE GETTING THESE INVOICES, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CONTRACT AND YOU'RE EXCEEDING 537 K, THAT'S OKAY.

BUT HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT WITHOUT IT BEING DOCUMENTED? SO I, IT'S, I THINK YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS FINE THAT WE PUT THAT IN THE MOTION.

IF YOU MADE THAT INTO A MOTION, THEN THAT'LL DO IT THEN THAT WILL DO IT.

SO ARE WE READY FOR A MOTION ON THIS? LET ME YOU DO THAT ON THE FLY.

YEAH, SURE.

JUST DO IT ON THE FLY.

MY MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT NOT TO EXCEED 1.5.

MAY YOU WANT ME TO SAY, OH, OKAY.

SO I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONTRACT FOR SERVICES FOR BFI WASTE SERVICES LLC WITH SUCH CHANGES AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

IN CONSULTATION WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, I FURTHER MOVE THAT THE BOARD AUTHORIZED THE CHAIR AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, UH, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR EITHER WHO MAY ACT TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AS WELL AS, OH GOD, I GOT, I LOST MY THOUGHT.

AS WELL AS INCLUDING A NOT TO EXCEED PRICE AMOUNT OF $1.5 MILLION ANNUALLY.

ANNUALLY.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT HOW THEY CAN PUT IT IN THEIR OWN MOTION.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING GOING FORWARD ON ALL THESE CONTRACTS? WE'RE JUST GONNA PUT IT IN THE MOTION.

YOU, YOU CAN PUT IT IN THE MOTION OR THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT IT.

IF THEY WANT TO GET THEIR CONTRACTS LOOK DONE,

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WE'RE GOING JUST PUT IT IN THE CONTRACT.

WELL, THAT'S RIGHT.

YES MA'AM.

YOU, YOU ALWAYS HAVE SECTION THREE.

YOU JUST PUT IT IN SECTION THREE THAT IT'S SUCH A EASY

[P. Proclamation - Adult Abuse Prevention Month]

WAY IS A PROCLAMATION FOR ADULT ABUSE PREVENTION.

NAME IS ADULT ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH.

DURING FISCAL YEAR 2023, VIRGINIA ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES RECEIVED OVER 43,000 REPORTS OF ADULT ABUSE, NEGLECT AND EXPLOITATION.

AN 8% INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT FOR AGING REHABILITATION SERVICES, ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES DIVISION WORKS COLLABORATIVELY WITH STATE AND LOCAL PARTNERS ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH TO HELP OLDER VIRGINIANS AND VIRGINIANS WITH DISABILITY LIVE FREE OF ABUSE, NEGLECT AND EXPLOIT EXPLOITATION.

AND THIS CAN'T TALK.

SO, UM, THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, UM, A PROCLAMATION DECLARING MAY AS NATIONAL ADULT ABUSE PREVENTION IS, UM, THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? AND IF NOT, IS THERE MOTION? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE, UH, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE ATTACHED PROCLAMATION DECLARING MAY IS NATIONAL ADULT ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH.

I THINK I DID.

I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS THERE.

MISS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR, UH, APRIL 2ND OF THE REGULAR MEETING AND APRIL 9TH.

SKIPPING AROUND TONIGHT.

UM, WE DID

[G. Approval of Minutes - 4.02.2024 Regular Meeting & 4.09.2024 Special Meeting]

SPECIAL MEETING.

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS, CORRECTIONS, DELETIONS IN THOSE MINUTES? HEARING NONE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THEM AS PRESENTED? SO MOVED.

ROLL CALL.

MR. ANDERSON.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR KEEPING ME STRAIGHT TONIGHT.

MR. SANDMEYER.

MR. BUTLER A MADAM CHAIR? AYE.

JAMESON? AYE.

WE'RE AT AUTHORIZATION TO, FOR PUBLIC HEARING OF A CAMPGROUND.

THAT'S WHY IT TAKES A VILLAGE.

ALRIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE DOWN TO, OKAY,

[Q. Authorization to Advertise for Public Hearing: Z2024-04-01 — Campground — Michaun Pierre - A request to amend Chapter 180 of the Warren County Code to amend 5180-8C to add definitions for Camping Unit and Tent, to modify the existing definitions of Commercial Campground and Commercial Camping, and to repeal the existing definitions of Unit Space, Vacation Camp, Day, and Vacation Camp, Overnight, to amend 5180-21D to modify the listed Commercial Campground use and to repeal the listed Vacation Camp, Day/Overnight use in the Agricultural District Regulations, to amend 5180-27D to modify the listed Commercial Campground use in the Commercial District Regulations, to amend 5180-41 to modify the existing supplementary regulations for Commercial Campgrounds, and to amend 5180-57 to repeal the existing supplementary regulations for Vacation Camp, Day or Overnight. - Chase Lenz, Zoning Administrator]

UH, HUN PIERRE.

I HOPE I SAID THAT RIGHT.

UM, WHY IS THAT NOT IN CONSENT AGENDA? BECAUSE WE THOUGHT YOU MIGHT WANT TO JUST FIND OUT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT BEFORE YOU OKAY.

JUST SEEMED ODD TO HAVE IT OFF TO THE SIDE.

SO, AND MR. LINZ, THAT'S YOURS? YES.

YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ IT THIS TIME.

IT'S A MOUTHFUL.

UM, SO YES, UM, THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO BASICALLY, UM, CHANGE SOME DEFINITIONS AROUND, UM, ADD A COUPLE DEFINITIONS AND TO REPEAL A FEW DEFINITIONS.

UM, WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, LOOKING AT A DRAFT ORDINANCE TO MODIFY THE LISTED COMMERCIAL CAMPGROUND USE.

AND IN DOING SO, ALSO REPEALING THE VACATION CAMP USE WE HAVE IN OUR ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE NEVER USED AND ALSO MODIFIED THE SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS, UH, FOR CAMPGROUNDS AND REPEAL THE SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS FOR VACATION CAMP DAY OR OVERNIGHT.

SO WE THOUGHT THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO FIELD ANY QUESTIONS.

THERE'S KIND OF A LOT GOING ON HERE, UM, AND IT'S A BIT CONFUSING SO I CAN HELP CLARIFY.

UH, ANYTHING YOU HAVE, COULD WE MOVE THIS TO A WORK SESSION INSTEAD OF TRYING TO DISCUSS IT TONIGHT? IF YOU'RE NOT IN A RUSH FOR IT, MA'AM, IT WON'T BE UNTIL JUNE AND THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.

BUT AS, AS LONG AS YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT, BECAUSE NEXT WEEK YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA BE BUSY WITH THE AUDIT AND THE BUDGET.

WHAT'S THE FEELING OF THE BOARD? DO YOU WANNA DO OR NOT AND ADVERTISE IT FOR PUBLIC HEARING OR IS THERE ANYTHING COMPELLING OR IMMINENT THAT'S MOTIVATING THIS? SO FIRST OF ALL, IT WAS AN APPLICATION FROM A PROPERTY OWNER.

UM, SO WE HAVE TO TAKE IT FORWARD, .

UM, SO I WILL SAY THAT WE KIND OF COMMANDEERED IT A LITTLE BIT AND PLUGGED IN A BUNCH OF CHANGES THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH OVER THE YEARS

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FOR THIS USE.

AND, UM, WE'RE TAKING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THAT.

UH, AS FAR AS WHAT THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, UM, IT, IT HAS TO DO WITH THE LOWERING OF THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF CAMPING UNITS IN A CAMPGROUND.

UH, 'CAUSE SHE IS NOT TRYING TO DO 10, SHE'S TRYING TO DO LESS THAN 10, UH, CAMPING UNITS.

UH, AND ALSO, UM, SHE IS LOOKING TO RELAX THE, UH, DUST-FREE SURFACE REQUIREMENT FOR INTERNAL ROADS, UM, ON THE BASIS OF HER ONLY HAVING TENT CAMPING.

UM, SO EVENTUALLY THIS WILL BE FOLLOWED BY A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

I THINK SHE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WOULD, UH, GET THROUGH FIRST.

UM, BUT A LOT OF THE OTHER STUFF IS JUST US CLEANING, UM, SOME OF THIS STUFF UP.

UH, AND AS I KIND OF MENTIONED, UH, THE VACATION CAMP USE, UM, I, WE HAVEN'T ISSUED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR, UH, SINCE IT WAS ADDED TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

UM, I WANT SAY IT WAS PROBABLY INCLUDED FOR, UH, CAMP WA WAPA, WHICH WAS, UH, BASICALLY A GRANDFATHERED, UH, TYPE OPERATION IN THE COUNTY.

UM, BUT NOBODY ELSE HAS REALLY TRIED TO DO THIS.

AND ESSENTIALLY EVERYTHING THAT YOU COULD DO WITH THAT USE IS APPLICABLE TO A CAMPGROUND.

UM, AND THE, UH, SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS FOR A VACATION CAMPER ARE, ARE NOT KIND OF, NOT NOT UP TO PAR.

UM, SO YOU GOT A LOT MORE REQUIREMENTS IN AND STUFF FOR CAMPGROUND.

AND SO, UH, BASICALLY RIGHT NOW UNDER THE ORDINANCE, IF SOMEONE'S LIKE, WELL, I DON'T WANNA MEET ALL OF THIS, UH, CAMPGROUND REQUIREMENTS, I'M APPLYING FOR A VACATION CAMP.

WE KIND OF HAVE TO TAKE IT AND SAY IT'S A VACATION CAMP.

UH, SO WE'D LIKE TO AVOID THAT, HAVE ALL OF THE CAMPS BE CAMPGROUNDS.

UM, AND UH, THAT'S KIND OF THAT PART OF IT.

BUT MOST OF THE OTHER STUFF IS JUST TWEAKING SOME OF THE, UH, WORDING, UH, AND A LITTLE REORGANIZATION AS WELL IN THE SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS.

DOES THIS GENERALLY RELAX OR CONTRACT PEOPLE'S, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO CAMP? UH, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD REALLY CHANGE MUCH.

THE USES ARE STILL BY COMMERCIAL, OR I'M SORRY, THE USES ARE STILL BY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN THE AGRICULTURAL AND, UM, COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.

THERE'S STILL A 10 ACRE MINIMUM.

UM, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE LOW, WE WOULD LOWER THE, UH, CAMP NUMBER OF CAMPING UNITS ALLOWED TO FIVE.

UM, WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE OVERALL, UM, UH, ACREAGE REQUIREMENT AND ALSO PROPOSED IS THE ADDITION OF A REQUIREMENT THAT THE PROPERTY BE ACCESSED FROM A STATE MAINTAINED ROAD TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE IMPACTS OF, UH, RV TRAFFIC ON, ON ROADS.

AND THAT IS ACTUALLY NOT IN THE ORDINANCE NOW.

UM, BUT WE DO POSE IT AS A SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATION.

SO IF, UH, IF IT'S NOT NECESSARY, THEN YOU ALL WOULD HAVE THE OPTION TO WAIVE THAT.

UH, THAT WAS A REALLY LONG ANSWER.

I I WAS WONDERING IF IT MAKES THINGS EASIER OR, OR HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO, I WOULD SAY HARDER BECAUSE OF THE STATE MAINTAINED ROAD ACCESS REQUIREMENT.

WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE ASK ABOUT THEIR PROPERTIES IN SUBDIVISIONS WHERE THEY MIGHT HAVE 20 ACRES OR 30 ACRES, BUT THEY'RE NOT PRIVATE ROAD, THEIR PRIVATE ROADS, NOT PUBLIC ACCESS ROADS.

AND THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO JUST CLEARLY SAY, NO, YOUR PROPERTY DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIRED REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLIC ROAD.

AND UH, IT WILL ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO SAY, THIS IS A, A LAND USE THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO.

THIS ALSO WILL KIND OF FILL IN THAT LITTLE GAP OF A SMALL SCALE PRIMITIVE CAMP SITES VERSUS WHAT WE HAVE IN THE WAY OF, UH, OUR OTHER.

SO IT'S OPENING UP MORE OPPORTUNITIES IN THAT REGARD.

IT DOES.

IT IT DOES, BUT IT CLARIFIES IT AND REGULATES IT MUCH EASIER FOR PEOPLE, UH, TO SAY, OKAY, WELL I I WANT TO DO THIS.

I CAN POTENTIALLY DO THIS WITH THIS PROPERTY, BUT I CAN'T WITH THIS PROPERTY.

SO, AND FOR, FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, IT, IT ALLOWS US TO SAY BASICALLY IT'S MORE CLEAR, NOT YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

IT'S MORE CLEAR LESS AND BY CUP, UH, IT'S UH, YOU KNOW, SITE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS.

IF THEY'RE, IF IT MEETS ALL THE SUPPLEMENTAL REGS, YOU CAN PUT ANY SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ON IT BASED ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF OR IF IT'S IN A SUBDIVISION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO THAT KIND OF HELPS ALSO, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, SOME KIND OF REGULATORY REG REGULATIONS.

UM, WE, WE DON'T, I THINK REALLY HAVEN'T GOT ANYTHING RELATING TO THIS, JUST QUESTIONS.

SO THIS REALLY HELPS US FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE TO JUST CLARIFY PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING AT LAND OR WANTING TO DO THIS ON THEIR PROPERTIES.

SO MOST, I'LL JUST MENTION MOST OF THE COMMERCIAL CAMPGROUNDS WE HAVE ARE ZONE COMMERCIAL IN THE COUNTY.

THE BIG ONES? MM-HMM.

ARE ALL ZONE COMMERCIAL.

UH, I WOULD SAY I THINK, UH, LOW WATER BRIDGE IS AG AND UH, GOONIE CREEK IS AN AG CAMPGROUND BY CUP.

UM, BUT THEY ARE OLDER ONES WITH VERY MINIMAL CONDITIONS

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ON ONE OF 'EM.

I THINK MOSTLY JUST RELATING TO HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

SO, UM, WE CAN GET WITH YOU TO GET ANY ANSWERS, UM, TO QUESTIONS BEFORE THIS WILL COME UP.

YEAH, DEFINITELY.

UH, CAN MEET TO GO OVER ANY OF THIS STUFF.

LIKE I SAID, UM, I, I CAME UP WITH MOST OF IT, SO AND JUST DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN ME, MATT, AND MR. PETTY OVER THE YEARS.

IF, IF YOU WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOUR DISCRETION, IF YOU WANTED, UH, AUTHORIZE ADVERTISEMENT FOR TONIGHT, IT STILL WOULD GIVE US ABOUT A MONTH'S TIME TO ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR COUNTY STAFF.

WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THOSE IF YOU WANNA MEET INDIVIDUALLY.

WE'LL, YEAH, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

MR. STANIER AYE, AUTHORIZATION

HEARING THAT.

IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUTHORIZED THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT FOR ADVERTISEMENT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

[R. Authorization to Advertise for Public Hearing: Z2024-04-02 — Zoning District Regulations — Warren County Planning Staff - A request to amend Chapter 180 of the Warren County Code to amend 518021 to make Public Schools permissible only by Conditional Use Permit in the Agricultural (A) District, to amend 5180-25 to make Store/Dwelling Combination and Library permissible only by Conditional Use Permit in the Village Residential (VR) District, to amend 5180-26 to add Church as a use permissible only by Conditional Use Permit in the Suburban Residential (SR) District, and to amend 5180-28 to add Church as a use permitted by right in the Industrial (l) District. - Chase Lenz, Zoning Administrator]

TO ADVERTISE FOR PUBLIC HEARING Z 2024 DASH FOUR DASH TWO, THE ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS AND THAT'S ONE THAT WAS THAT.

I'M GONNA LET CHASE TAKE THIS.

SO FOR THIS TEXT AMENDMENT, THIS WAS WRITTEN BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

AFTER REVIEWING, UH, THE CURRENT DISTRICT REGULATIONS UNDER THE ZONING ORDINANCE, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE SHOULD COVER IN A DISCUSSION TODAY.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE THEY HELD, UM, OR BEFORE THEY AUTHORIZED ADVERTISEMENT LAST MONTH, THEY HELD A CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE WHAT'S APPROPRIATE.

AND WE CAN WORK THAT OUT BETWEEN NOW AND IN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS ONE? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUTHORIZED A PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT FOR ADVERTISEMENT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO, YEAH, I KNOW WE TALKED BEFORE MM-HMM.

DO I CALL MR. HENDERSON? MR. STAN MEYER? AYE.

UNDER ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS WE HAVE THE 20 24, 20 25 UNITED HEALTHCARE INSURANCE AND I'LL HONOR IT OVER TO YOU LADIES.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

UM, AS WE STARTED TALKING LAST WEEK, UH, WE WENT OVER SOME OF THE HEALTH INSURANCE OPTIONS AND THEN, UM, I GUESS FRIDAY I SENT SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO FOR THE 24 25, UM, INSURANCE RENEWAL, UM, FOR OUR GROUP HEALTH, DENTAL, AND VISION, UM, WE RECEIVED A OVERALL 7.7% INCREASE, UM, ALONG WITH A $40,000, UM, PREMIUM HOLIDAY FOR THE JULY BILL.

UM, THE PROPOSED RATE SHEET HAS BEEN, UM, GIVEN TO, UM, EACH OF YOU WITH TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

UM, OPTION A REFLECTS THE COUNTY ABSORBING THE INCREASE IN THE RATES AND THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTION TO THE PREMIUMS REMAINING THE SAME AS, UM, PLAN YEAR 24.

OPTION B REFLECTS A PORTION OF THE INCREASE BEING ABSORBED BY THE EMPLOYEES IN THE HIGHER DEDUCTIBLE, UM, A THOUSAND DOLLARS PLAN AND THE PREVENTATIVE DENTAL PLAN AND THE COUNTY CONTRIBUTIONS BEING MIRRORED FROM THE THOUSAND DOLLARS PLAN TO THE $250 PLAN.

UM, AND THEN AS WELL FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE DENTAL, UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY REMAINING WITH THE A THOUSAND DOLLARS AND $250, OR SORRY, DOLLAR DEDUCTIBLE PLANS.

UM, AND THEN THE PREVENTATIVE AND COMPREHENSIVE DENTAL PLANS ARE REMAINING THE SAME.

THE VISION PLAN DID NOT CHANGE.

THE PRICING FOR THAT WAS LOCKED IN FOR THIS YEAR DURING OUR RENEWAL.

UM, PREVIOUSLY, UM, FROM THE PROPOSED 24 25 BUDGET, UM, APPROXIMATELY 3.345, UM, MILLION DOLLARS HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED FOR INSURANCE PREMIUMS FOR OUR, OUR FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.

UM, THE ESTIMATED INCREASE IN THE ANNUAL COSTS FOR FY 25 VERSUS FY 24 IS $269,000.

UM, AND THAT COST WILL VARY DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS IN EACH PLAN.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED OR THE PLANS THEMSELVES?

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THE MEETING.

SO I JUST WANTED JUST TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

SO THE ESTIMATE INCREASE OF THE ANNUAL COSTS FOR 69 K, THAT IS THE COST THE COUNTY WILL BE ABSORBING, CORRECT? FOR PLAN A FOR OPTION A? YES.

FOR OPTION A.

BUT IF WE GO WITH OPTION B, THE SAVINGS REDUCES BY ALMOST $45,000.

CORRECT? THE COST WOULD SHIP TO THE EMPLOYEE.

RIGHT? TO THE EMPLOYEE.

MADAM CHAIR, I, UH, DID YOU HAVE ANY MORE? NO, GO AHEAD.

SO THE, I WANTED TO ASK, UH, UH, WHAT, UH, WHICH ONE DO YOU RECOMMEND? OPTION A? OPTION A? YES.

I FEEL THAT SINCE WE ARE STILL BASICALLY WHERE WE HAVE SHIFTED WITH COST OF LIVING INCREASES, UM, I FEEL THAT WE ARE STILL BELOW IT.

SO I PERSONALLY, AND KEEP IN MIND WAS THE DIRECTOR OF HR.

UM, SO I'M A LITTLE EMPLOYEE BIASED, BUT I DO FEEL LIKE OPTION A WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED BY OUR TEAM.

UM, OPTION B OF COURSE SAVES $45,000, BUT THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS THAT WE'RE PRESENTING AND IT IS A CHALLENGE FOR EACH OF YOU.

BUT YOU KNOW, AND, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, YOU KNOW, UH, WE STARTED ABSORBING THE EMPLOYEE'S, UM, INCREASE BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE OF THE PLAN, RIGHT? FROM A SAVINGS THAT WE, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT STARTED ALL OF THIS MM-HMM, THREE YEARS AGO.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE, WELL HISTORICALLY, COUNTIES DO ABSORB A PORTION OF IT.

IT'S NOT THAT WE'VE NEVER ABSORBED EMPLOYEES PREMIUM OR THE PREMIUM INCREASES.

UM, BUT WE HAVE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, NOT PASSED ANY OF THAT.

UM, FORWARD TO OUR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE WE WERE, HAD A, HAD A SAVINGS.

WE HAD COST SAVINGS.

A SAVINGS FROM THE ONE CARRIER TO THE NEXT CARRIER.

CORRECT.

SO YOU, SO, SO THREE YEARS AGO BEFORE WE MADE THE CHANGE IN THE, UM, HEALTH INSURANCE MM-HMM.

CARRIER, WERE WE, UM, GIVING RELIEF TO OUR EMPLOYEES ON THEIR PREMIUMS WITH THE PRIOR INSURANCE? YES.

EMPLOYEE, THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A RELIEF GIVEN TO THE EMPLOYEES, AND THIS IS NOT THE EMPLOYEE AND, AND, UM, EMPLOYEE EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTION, THIS IS ABOVE THE CONTRIBUTION? NO, IT'S, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SPLIT CONTRIBUTION.

WE'RE TALKING, SO THE SPLIT IS NEVER A 50 50 SPLIT.

UM, FREQUENTLY THE EMPLOYER DOES TAKE ON MORE OF IT, UM, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME IN.

SO, BUT IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY THOUGH, THIS YEAR IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE'RE NOT USING THE SAVINGS THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR.

WE ATE THROUGH THE RESIDUAL SAVINGS AND WE BUDGETED FOR THE REMAINING PORTION.

AND I THINK, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO SAY.

UM, SO IT WAS, UH, BASICALLY A NON-ISSUE BECAUSE WE HAD BUDGETED FOR IT.

SO WE HAD, SO NOW WE'RE BACK TO TAKING THAT FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

WELL, EVERY YEAR WE TAKE IT FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

WELL, WE'RE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE RELIEF.

SO, YOU KNOW, UNLESS IT'S APPLES AND ORANGES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BUT, AND GO AHEAD DR.

DALEY.

SO MAYBE, UM, IF YOU GO BACK THREE YEARS, AND WHEN WE SWITCHED PLANS UP UNTIL THAT TIME, THERE WAS A PORTION OF THE COUNTY BA ESSENTIALLY PAID THE EMPLOYEE ONLY SHARE, BUT EMPLOYEE PLUS ONE EMPLOYEE PLUS SPOUSE OR EMPLOYEE PLUS FAMILY.

THERE WAS A PORTION OF THAT THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE EMPLOYEE.

AND MR. WENDLING, YOU CAN CONFIRM IF, IF I'M CORRECTED, THAT'S BASICALLY HOW THE PLAN WORKED.

AND SO THERE WOULD BE A LI EACH YEAR THERE'D BE A, AN INCREASE OF 10% IN THE TOTAL PREMIUM.

AND SO USUALLY, NOT ALWAYS, BUT USUALLY THE COUNTY BOARD WOULD LOOK AT IT AND PASS A PORTION OF THAT ON TO THE EMPLOYEE AND A PORTION OF IT WOULD BE ABSORBED BY THE COUNTY.

RIGHT.

THREE YEARS AGO WHEN WE SWITCHED PLANS, WE HAD A SAVINGS AND WE PUT THAT SAVINGS KIND OF AS A HEALTH INSURANCE CUSHION.

AND WE HAVE NOW EATEN THROUGH THAT.

SO WE'RE BACK TO WHERE WE WERE THREE YEARS AGO.

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WE JUST WEREN'T SAYING IT.

SO THAT IT ALL, IT ALL IS TAX DOLLARS.

ALL OF IT.

BUT WE HAD SAVED THIS AND WE USED IT TO SUBSIDIZE THE RATES ABOVE THE EMPLOYEE ONLY FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

AND NOW WE LOOK AT WHETHER WE CONTINUE THAT OR THERE SHOULD BE SOME, ANY INCREASE TO THE OTHER CATEGORIES OF EMPLOYEE PLUS.

AND SO THE ONLY RECOMME, THE REASON OF YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF ABSORBING ALL THE PREMIUM INCREASES IS BECAUSE WITH THE RATE OF INFLATION, WE ARE STILL BELOW THAT.

AND THEREFORE I, BUT YOU'RE, I AM RECOMMENDING THAT WE GO WITH OPTION ONE, UM, BUT WE PAY FOR THE, ALL OF THE PREMIUM INCREASES.

CORRECT.

AND THAT'S BASED ON YOUR, THE COST OF LIVING INCREASES THAT WE HAVE GIVEN TO OUR EMPLOYEES OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

ARE STILL BELOW THE RATE OF INFLATION FOR THOSE SAME FOUR YEARS, WHICH IS WHY I AM SAYING THAT, OR I AM RECOMMENDING THAT WE NOT PASS IT FORWARD TO OUR EMPLOYEE.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS.

WELL DO, DO, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE, UH, UM, WHAT DOES THE MARKETPLACE LOOK LIKE? I MEAN, UH, IS REGARDING THE INCREASE IN INSURANCE? NO, NO.

RE REGARDING, UH, SAY LIKE IF, UH, IF, IF AN EMPLOYEE WANTED TO WORK, IF VERSUS GOING TO, AND I'LL JUST THROW A NAME OUT THERE, SOUTHERN STATES.

, YOU KNOW, UH, WOULD, UH, UM, AND, AND I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THEY OFFER, BUT LET'S SAY THAT, UH, THAT THAT, UM, UH, THAT THEY DON'T THAT FOR THE, FOR THE MOST PART SOUTHERN STATES AND ALL THE OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE AREA THAT THEY DON'T OFFER, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, UM, THE EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE AND MOST EMPLOYERS DO.

EVERY PRIVATE EMPLOYER THAT I HAVE WORKED FOR, OKAY.

UM, HAS.

UM, AND ACTUALLY DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE EMPLOYER, THEY'RE ILLEGALLY REQUIRED OKAY.

TO OFFER HEALTH INSURANCE.

UM, THE VALUE OF THAT PLAN DOES VARY GREATLY.

UM, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE EMPLOYER.

SO WE ARE CONSIDERED A LARGE EMPLOYER, THEREFORE WHAT WE OFFER HAS TO BE, BUT THEN CERTAIN FEDERAL THRESHOLDS, OKAY.

WITH OPTION B, WHAT IS THAT INCREASE COST TO THE ? SO, UM, IT DEPENDS ON THE PLAN THAT THEY'RE ENROLLED IN.

SO IN LOOKING AT THE INFORMATION I PROVIDED TO YOU ALL, I HAVE THE INCREASE TO THE EMPLOYEE AND THE, FOR THE A THOUSAND DOLLARS PLAN, IT'S THE FAR RIGHT COLUMN.

AND THEN THE SECOND, UM, ROW FOR THE $250 DEDUCTIBLE PLAN, IT'S IN AGAIN, THAT FAR RIGHT COLUMN.

AND THIS IS BROKEN DOWN BETWEEN MEDICAL AND DENTAL.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE DENTAL RATES ARE A SHIFT.

AND FOR OPTION B, FOR THE DENTAL, THE REASON THAT THERE'S A CREDIT IS LAST YEAR WE KEPT THE PLANS FLAT.

AND SO IF WE WERE TO MIRROR THE, UM, COUNTY CONTRIBUTION FOR THE ENTRY LEVEL PLAN OR THE PREVENTIVE PLAN INTO THE, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT ACTUALLY WOULD PAY THE MORE THAN WHAT THE EMPLOYEE CURRENTLY PAYS.

SO THERE WOULD BE A CREDIT BACK UNDER THE DENTAL, JUST IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST.

TYPICAL EMPLOYEE, I, I DID CALCULATE REAL QUICKLY, AT LEAST FOR THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN, UM, IT WOULD AFFECT 65 EMPLOYEES.

THE, THE ONES ON INDIVIDUAL PLAN WOULDN'T BE AFFECTED.

BUT PEOPLE WITH CHILD, SPOUSE OR FAMILY, THAT'S 65 PEOPLE, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE OF THE TOTAL 44,700 AND CHANGE OF, OF SAVINGS, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT A THIRD ON THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PEOPLE AND ABOUT TWO THIRDS ON THE LOW DEDUCTIBLE PEOPLE.

UM, AND FOR THOSE 65 HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PEOPLE, I DIVIDED THAT ROUGHLY $14,000 BY THEM AND IT CAME OUT TO ABOUT $218 A YEAR PER EMPLOYEE.

BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE AVERAGE I THINK FOR THE EMPLOYEES WHERE IT'S, UM, WITH FAMILY, THEY'RE PAYING THE HIGHEST, THEY WOULD BE PAYING MORE THAN THAT 218 A YEAR.

AND THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE PLUS CHILD, UM, WOULD BE PAYING A LITTLE LESS THAN THAT PROBABLY.

BUT, UM, SOMEWHERE IN THAT 200 RANGE.

SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA KEEP DOING GOING FORWARD ALL THE TIME? IS THIS EVERY YEAR? YES.

IT'S LIKE BETWEEN 9, 9 19 AND $24.

SO IS THIS GOING TO BE

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EVERY YEAR YOUR INSURANCE RATES WILL CHANGE AND BASED OFF OF WHAT'S GOING ON, YOU WILL NEED TO DECIDE BASICALLY WHAT THE SPLIT WILL BE AND WHAT THE CONTRIBUTION FROM THE BOARD WILL BE.

SO, SO IS GOING FORWARD, THE WHATEVER NEW BOARD MEMBERS COME UP HERE AND EVERY YEAR ARE GONNA COME BACK UP HERE AND SAY HOW MUCH, UM, WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE THAT THE BOARD APPROVES FOR PREMIUM INCREASES? AND YOU'LL, IF YOU'RE HERE, YOU'RE STILL GONNA SAY OPTION A BY ABSORBING ALL THE COSTS? NOT NECESSARILY.

UM, THERE WILL BE , I'M JUST, THERE WILL, SO PART OF THE WORK SESSION, WE FULLY INTEND TO GO OUT TO BED NEXT YEAR.

UM, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL OF THE OPTIONS AND IT'S PRETTY STANDARD PRACTICE TO GO OUT TO BED EVER EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS.

SO IT'S BEEN FOUR YEARS.

WE WANNA GO OUT TO BED AND SEE WHETHER OUR, UM, RATINGS HAVE IMPROVED, UM, IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY GET BETTER RATES THROUGH THE LOCAL CHOICE, UM, OR WHETHER OR NOT IT IS MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO REMAIN WITH, UM, UNITEDHEALTHCARE.

UM, BUT BASED OFF OF RATES, SO OUR INITIAL PREMIUM CAME BACK AT 14.8 WHEN WE NEGOTIATED DOWN TO THE 7.7.

THAT IS WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE WILL GO OUT TO BED.

SO IT WAS A GOOD FAITH THAT THEY ARE BELOW, OUR ACTUAL EXPERIENCE RATING IS A 10.9% INCREASE, SO WE SHOULD BE AT 10.9.

THEY LOWERED IT TO 7.7 AND GAVE US $40,000 BACK.

SO THAT WAS THE INSURANCE COMPANY'S EFFORTS TO BASICALLY RETAIN US AS A CLIENT.

WHETHER OR NOT THAT WORKS, THAT'LL DEPEND ON NEXT YEAR.

BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERY YEAR WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE FACTORS.

SO I GUESS WE'LL JUST HAVE TO PUT GUIDANCE OUT TO THE EMPLOYEES, DON'T GET SICK, DON'T HAVE ACCIDENTS, AND DON'T GET CAVITIES.

WELL, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT PART OF OUR WELLNESS PROGRAM IS IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY IMPROVE THAT EXPERIENCE RATING.

UM, BECAUSE THE MORE THAT WE CAN PREVENT, AND ESPECIALLY EXPENSIVE ILLNESSES, IF WE CAN CATCH IT EARLY ON, IT'LL ACTUALLY LOWER THAT EXPERIENCE RATING.

SO HOPEFULLY WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE AN INCREASE.

'CAUSE WE HAVE HAD DECREASES IN THE PAST.

FINGERS CROSSED WE'LL HAVE THEM AGAIN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUST A, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA ASSERT A GENERAL PRINCIPLE AND THAT IS THAT I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR WHEN, WHEN THINGS GO UP THAT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN A YEAR WHEN WE'RE RAISING TAXES, THAT EVERYONE TAKES A LITTLE BIT ON THEIR SHOULDERS.

UM, I'M, I'M JUST NOT REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH THE IDEA OF COMPLETELY SHIELDING, UH, COUNTY EMPLOYEES AS SELECT A DIFFERENT CLASS OF, OF PEOPLE FROM THESE, FROM THE, THESE REALITIES.

UM, I, I, AGAIN, ALWAYS HARKING BACK TO OTHER PEOPLE OUT IN THE ECONOMY, UM, THAT ARE STRUGGLING WITH THEIR, WELL, THEY'RE GONNA GET A TAX INCREASE AS ARE THE EMPLOYEES.

THEY'RE ALSO GONNA GET THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS GOING UP.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THE WORK YOU'RE DOING AND, AND THE GOOD WORK YOU'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, AND, UM, BUT JUST I THINK IT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL SLICE THAT THAT IS BEING IN OPTION B TO TO GET THE EMPLOYEE TO SHOULDER A A BIT OF IT.

UM, AND IT DOES REVERT BACK TO TYPE FROM THREE YEARS AGO BEFORE WE HAD THIS EXTRA POOL, WHICH WE COULD KEEP USING AND, AND, AND ESSENTIALLY FOR THREE YEARS LIVING IN A RELATIVELY UNREALISTIC SITUATION WHERE NOBODY HAD ANY, ANY INCREASE.

UM, SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON IT.

I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

ANYONE ELSE? I AGREE WITH YOUR THOUGHTS.

MR. JAMESON.

IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT THE RENEWAL OF THE 20 24, 20 25 UNITED HEALTHCARE INSURANCE RATES UTILIZING OPTION A RATES HEARING.

SECOND, UM, IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION? IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION I MOVE TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO DEDUCT THE RENEWAL OF THE 2024 DASH 2025 UNITED HEALTHCARE INSURANCE RATES UTILIZING OPTION B RATES? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND CALL, MR. HENDERSON.

MRS. COOK? AYE.

JAMISON? AYE.

MADAM CHAIR, THIS, THIS,

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THIS PAINS ME.

I I, I HAVE TO SAY IT THANKS ME BECAUSE I, I DO APPRECIATE THE EMPLOYEES AND THIS IS SOMETHING I REALLY WISH, BUT I ALSO COME FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, MY HUSBAND WHO WAS WITH THE STATE AND THE STATE DIDN'T PAY ALL OF ALL OF MINE, DOESN'T PAY ALL THE PAY.

THERE WAS A PAY IN.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M HOPEFUL THAT NEXT YEAR WE LOOK AT THIS AND WE HAVE A HUGE SAVINGS LIKE WE HAD THE LAST THREE YEARS AND WHEN WE REVISIT IT, THAT WE CAN USE THOSE SAVINGS TO MAYBE OFFSET SOME OF HIS PAIN THAT THIS YEAR IS TIGHT.

AND I THINK THE 40,000 DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A HUGE SAVINGS TO US, BUT EVERY, EVERY PENNY HELPS.

AND SO, AND I, AS MUCH AS IT PAYS ME, UH, MR. BUTLER, NO, MR. STANIER LIKE, LIKE OUR CHAIR, THIS IS, THIS IS PAINFUL.

UM, I'M GONNA BE AN EYE, BUT I'M GONNA ASK THAT WE CONSIDER AS WE FINISH OUR BUDGETING PROCESS THAT WE CONSIDER ALLOCATING SOME OF THIS SAVINGS TO, UM, MORE SCREENING, ESPECIALLY FOR CANCER.

SO YES.

IS THERE A POSSIBILITY, I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T HEAR YOU MA'AM.

IS THERE A POSSIBILITY WHEN WE GET OUR, UH, AUDIT THAT EVEN THOUGH WE, IT'S ON, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S, I FEEL LIKE I'M ABOUT HAVING MY NOSE, UM, THAT WE CAN REVISIT THIS IF WE FIND THAT WE HAVE A CUSHION AREA HERE THAT WE CAN WELL, UM, I MEAN I KNOW WE VOTED ON IT, BUT YOU HAVE VOTED, SO WELL LEAVE IT FOR THAT.

UM, IF I MAY MAKE A COMMENT NOW THAT YOU VOTED, I THINK YOU SHOULD LOOK AT YOUR LONG-TERM VISION AND WHAT YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE SHOULD BE.

SHOULD BE SOME TYPE OF A UNIFORM AMOUNT TO ALL EMPLOYEES AND WHATEVER THAT AMOUNT IS.

IF I AM A SINGLE EMPLOYEE AND JOHN IS A, AN EMPLOYEE WITH FAMILY AND WE BOTH DO THE SAME JOB AND WE STARTED TO WORK THE SAME DAY AND WE'RE BOTH PAID THE SAME, THEN JOHN IS MAKING MORE THAN I AM BECAUSE YOU, THE COUNTY IS PAYING MORE FOR HEALTH INSURANCE FOR JOHN THAN FOR ME.

SO WHAT YOUR VISION SHOULD BE IS TO LOOK FOR A UNIFORM RATE WHERE THE FAMILY RATE IS YOUR BASELINE.

AND WITH THAT BASELINE, YOU GIVE ALL EMPLOYEES THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO WORK WITH AS HEALTHCARE DOLLARS AND THEY GO SHOPPING.

IF THEY WANT TO PUT IT ALL INTO HEALTH INSURANCE, THEY CAN, IF THEY WANT TO PUT IT INTO THEIR PRESCRIPTIONS, THEY CAN, THEY WANT TO PUT IT INTO DENTAL EYE, ET CETERA.

THEY CAN, IF THEY NEED ANY TYPE OF SPECIAL MEDICATIONS, THEY CAN USE IT FOR THAT.

AS LONG AS IT IS HEALTH RELATED, THEN IT'S PERMITTED AND THEN ALL THE EMPLOYEES ARE TREATED THE SAME.

NOW IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET THERE UNLESS YOU REALLY COME OUT FORWARD WITH A BIG CHUNK OF MONEY.

AND IF WE DECIDE, IF WE GOT THE AUDIT AND WE HAD THIS BIG CHUNK OF MONEY THAT WAS JUST BURNING A HOLE IN THE BOARD'S POCKET, THAT'S THE WAY I WOULD SPEND IT, IS TOWARDS LEVELING THE FIELD TOWARDS THE SINGLE EMPLOYEE SO THAT THEY COME UP IN THEIR MONEY RATHER THAN THE FAMILY EMPLOYEE COMING DOWN SO THAT YOU CAN BRING EVERYBODY UP AND THEN YOU CAN OFFER EVERYBODY THE SAME ALL AT EVERY TO GO SHOPPING TOGETHER.

THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT IT TAKES SEVERAL YEARS TO GET THERE.

WELL, AND THAT'S THE SAME THING AS, UH, AN EMPLOYEE WHOSE SPOUSE CARRIES THE INSURANCE.

BUT I GET IT.

THAT

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THAT THAT'S CORRECT.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

UM, I, AND I UNDERSTAND THE FINANCIAL ISSUE OF IT.

UM, IT JUST, IT'S, IT JUST BOTHERS ME.

I'M SORRY.

WELL, IT, IT, IT IT IS, IT'S HIGH AND IT, UH, HOPEFULLY, UH, WE'LL GET SOME GOOD BIDS NEXT YEAR.

AND WE HAVE, UH, WE'VE HAD SOME HIGH USAGE IN RECENT YEARS THAT HAS BROUGHT OUR RATES UP AND AS WE PUT MORE FOCUS ON WELLNESS AND EARLY DETECTION, ET CETERA, EVERYBODY'S GONNA DO BETTER BECAUSE THEIR RATES WILL THEN COME DOWN END OF LECTURE.

ANY ADDITIONAL BUSINESS? IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE THING.

UM, I, I HAD LIKE TO GET WITH DR.

DALEY ON TALKING ABOUT THE EASTMAN PARK BATHROOM.

FROM WHAT I HEARD TODAY, UH, THIS EVENING OF HAVING THE COMMUNITY DONATED THE MONEY TO HAVE A FACILITY THERE, AND NOW IT'S REMOVED.

SO WE CAN TALK OFFLINE ABOUT THAT.

IF I CAN REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE REASON IT WAS REMOVED WAS BECAUSE IT WAS SO VANDALIZED.

IT WAS, UM, UNUSABLE THE LAST, UH, FALL.

THE BATHROOMS WERE SO VANDALIZED BEHIND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY PARKS THAT THEY WERE BECOMING UNUSABLE.

I THE PICTURES.

SO I SAW THERE, THERE WAS, UH, ONE BATHROOM THAT WAS TURNED COMPLETELY UP ON ITS TOP IS, YOU KNOW, I, I HATE IT.

I MEAN, WE'VE GOT, LIKE SHE SAID, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PARK.

WE HAVE BEAUTIFUL PARKS.

IF PEOPLE WOULD TREAT THEM THE WAY, UH, WITH RESPECT, WE WOULD HAVE THE FACILITIES OPEN AND EVERYBODY WOULD BE, WOULD BE HAPPY.

I DON'T KNOW WHY.

IT SEEMS TO BE THE THING TO DO IS TO VANDALIZE THE PARKS AND YOU CAN'T KEEP UP WITH IT.

YOU KNOW, AT A TIME, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE AT ONCE AND THEY'RE OVERDOING SOMETHING HERE AND YOU GOT A GROUP OF KIDS OVER HERE OR WHOEVER.

I DON'T EVEN WANNA BLAME IT ON KIDS.

IT MIGHT BE ADULTS DOING IT.

UM, BUT THE FACT OF MATTER IS THEY'RE, THEY'RE TEARING 'EM UP AT A RATE WE CAN'T KEEP UP WITH.

SO IT'S THAT'S CORRECT, MA'AM.

THAT'S EXACTLY OUR PROBLEM.

I DON'T DUNNO HOW TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, BUT, WE'LL, WE'LL KEEP WORKING ON IT.

SO NO OTHER DISCUSSION.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.