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ALL RIGHT, IT'S SIX O'CLOCK, SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED, UM, WITH OUR, UM, WORK SESSION, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH THE WORK SESSION, UH, FIRST ON THE AGENDA, AND I DO WELCOME YOU ALL HERE TONIGHT.

UM, FIRST

[A. Presentation - FY 2022-2023 Audit ]

ON THE AGENDA IS THE PRESENTATION OF THE 20 22 23 AUDIT.

AND MS. SCOTT, I'LL TURN THIS OVER TO YOU.

THANK YOU, BENAM CHAIR ON OUR TEAM'S, UH, TV.

OVER HERE WE'VE GOT MR. MICHAEL LUPTON WITH RFCA.

HE IS HERE TO, UM, GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE FISCAL YEAR 23 AUDIT.

GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU, ALYSSA.

WELCOME, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME THIS EVENING.

UM, MY, MY PRESENTATION THIS EVENING, WE'LL LIKELY BE BRIEF, UH, PENDING ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE, UH, RELATED TO THE FINANCIAL REPORT.

UM, WE, I WAS THERE IN, I BELIEVE, MAY AND PRESENTED ON OUR OPINION ON THE FINANCIALS, ALONG WITH OUR FINDINGS, UH, IN, IN, IN, IN RELATION TO THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023.

UM, THOSE HAVE NOT CHANGED.

UH, THE OPINION, UH, STAYS AN UNMODIFIED OPINION, UM, UH, WITH THE DISCLAIMER RELATED TO THE EDA, UH, ELEMENTS AND ALSO THE FINDINGS THAT WE RELATE AT THAT TIME AND AS ARE RELAYED IN THE FINANCIAL REPORT THAT, UH, YOU ALL HAVE REVIEWED RECENTLY, UM, STAND AS WELL.

UM, AND SO, UH, WITH THAT, UH, I, I DO NEED TO REPORT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, UNBEKNOWNST TO US AND ALSO, UH, COUNTY FINANCE AT REPORT ISSUANCE, THERE WAS INFORMATION THAT WAS NOT FULLY COMPLETE, UM, THAT, UH, UH, WE WERE PROVIDED RELATED TO THE, THE TRANSFERS FOR SCHOOL BOARD SPECIFIC CAPITAL EXPENDITURES.

UM, AND, UH, JUST YESTERDAY ON AUGUST 12TH, UH, SOME, SOME, UH, MORE COMPLETE INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED BY SCHOOL BOARD PERSONNEL.

AND AS A RESULT OF THAT INFORMATION, WE WILL NEED TO REISSUE THE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR FY 2023.

UM, SO THAT WILL BE FORTHCOMING WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

UM, ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF WEEKS WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THIS REISSUED.

UM, AND SO THAT WILL CHANGE THE FINANCIAL PICTURE, UM, A LITTLE BIT FOR THE, FOR THE COUNTY AS IT RELATES TO ITS EXPENDITURES RELATED TO EDUCATIONAL SERVICES.

AND ALSO THE EXPENDITURES ARE ACTUALLY THE REVENUE AND CARRYOVER FUND BALANCES REPORTED, UH, FOR THE SCHOOL, SCHOOL BOARD FUNDS AS WELL.

UM, SO WITH THAT, I, I CERTAINLY OPEN UP THE FLOOR TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE RELATED TO THE FINANCIALS AS YOU'VE SEEN THEM, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE, UH, AND ADDRESS ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS AT THIS TIME.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. LUTON AT THIS TIME? WE'RE JUST NOW GETTING SOME OF, UH, THE INFORMATION FROM THE SCHOOLS OURSELVES.

SO, UM, THAT PUTS US AT A LITTLE BIT OF A DISADVANTAGE ASKING QUESTIONS HERE.

YES, THIS WAS 3 58 THIS AFTERNOON, MA'AM.

I WOULD WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE THE REISE, THESE COMMENTS FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD INCORPORATED INTO THE AUDITOR'S REPORT, AND THEN LOOK AT THAT REPORT AGAIN, AND THEN SEE WHAT QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY, UNLESS SOMEONE HAD, UH, PRIOR QUESTIONS YOU WANTED TO ASK.

I THINK THE NET FROM THIS REPORT IS EARLIER IT LOOKED AS IF THERE WAS ABOUT 3 MILLION SCHOOLS OVERSPENT SO THAT OUR FUND BALANCE DROPPED.

AND INSTEAD, WHEN YOU LOOK IN HERE, THE FUND BALANCE INCREASES, AND INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY 12 MILLION, YOU'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY 18 MILLION IN THAT UNRESTRICTED, AND YOU JUST HAD YOUR REAFFIRMATION FROM FITCH ON FRIDAY OF YOUR AA PLUS RATING.

SO THAT'S A VERY GOOD THING.

AND KEEPING THAT BALANCE ABOVE THE 17 MILLION, THERE IS A GOOD SIGN.

WHEN, UH, WHEN FITCH DID, UM, UPDATE THE RATING, DID THEY HAVE ACCESS OR WHAT WAS THE LATEST FISCAL YEAR AUDIT THAT THEY HAD ACCESS TO?

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AND WOULD THIS AFFECT ANYTHING WITH THAT? IT WAS A 23 AUDIT.

OKAY.

SO, BUT IT'S, IT'S, THEY'RE NOT GONNA, IT'S NOT GONNA RAISE IT TO A TRIPLE A WHEN MICHAEL LOOKS AT IT AGAIN, JEOPARDIZE IT, EITHER.

'CAUSE IT, WE STILL UP THERE, BUT THIS IS NOT GONNA BE A, WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH THAT.

WE WERE ABLE USING THE SUPPORTING THE, UM, THE EDA FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, THE BANK SERVICES AND THE LEGAL SERVICES THAT YOU'RE STILL ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE BALANCE THAT FITCH, UH, ASSESSED YOU AS AA PLUS.

WE THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD SIGN FOR THE BOARD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS.

YOU, YOU SAID, UH, YOU, YOU CAME IN IN MAY AND YOUR OPINIONS AS OF THE RELEASE OF THIS, UH, LATEST REPORT, YOUR OPINIONS ARE UNCHANGED.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT, THAT IS CORRECT.

SO, SO WITH WITH THE REPORT THAT YOU ALL HAVE IN HAND, UM, AND HAVE REVIEWED, UM, THERE, AS I MENTIONED YESTERDAY, WE WERE INFORMED OF, UM, MORE COMPLETE AND MORE COMPLETE INFORMATION FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD, UM, THAT, UM, CHANGED THE, THE, THE, THE PICTURE OF THE FINANCIALS, UH, FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR FY 2023.

SO, SO THAT SPECIFICALLY WILL NEED TO BE REVISED.

UM, AND OUR OPINION ON THE FINANCIALS ONCE THEY'RE REVISED, WILL, WILL REMAIN THE SAME, UM, AS THEY WERE IN MAY WHEN WE REPORTED AS WELL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

WELL, HEARING NO MORE QUESTIONS, WE APPRECIATE THIS AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THE REVISED VISION VERSION.

EXCUSE ME.

CERTAINLY, UH, APPRECIATE YOU HAVING ME THIS EVENING, AND IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AS YOU GO THROUGH AND, AND DIGEST THAT INFORMATION A LITTLE BIT MORE, I'M HAPPY TO, TO ANSWER THOSE THROUGH ALYSSA AT, UM, IN, IN, IN INFORMAL OR INFORMAL, UH, NATURE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

THANK YOU, MICHAEL.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVING

[B. Presentation - Samuel's Public Library 6 Month Report ]

ON WITH THE AGENDA.

UM, SAMUEL'S PUBLIC LIBRARY SIX MONTH REPORT, MS. REDDY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME.

I'M AARON ROONEY, IF YOU PULL THAT UP.

THANK YOU.

ANYBODY HEAR ME? UM, SO MY NAME'S AARON ROONEY.

I'M THE NEW LIBRARY DIRECTOR AT SAMUEL'S PUBLIC LIBRARY.

THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.

UM, AND I'LL BE GOING OVER OUR SIX MONTH REVIEW.

SO THIS IS BETWEEN JANUARY AND JUNE OF, UM, THIS CURRENT YEAR, 2024.

SO JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A OVERVIEW, I'LL JUST BE GOING OVER OUR LIBRARY USAGE, UM, OUR STATISTICS FROM THE PAST SIX MONTHS, AS WELL AS, UM, WE HAVE OUR, UM, AT THE END OF YEAR COMMUNITY REPORT, AS WELL AS GOING OVER SOME OF THE GENERAL UPDATES TO, UH, OUR SERVICES, UM, OUTREACH EVENTS, OUR PROGRAMMING THAT WE'VE HAD AND WHAT WE HAVE COMING NEXT.

SO AGAIN, OUR MISS MISSION IS AT SAMUEL'S PUBLIC LIBRARY BRINGS PEOPLE INFORMATION AND IDEAS TOGETHER TO ENRICH LIVES AND BUILD COMMUNITY.

AND JUST TO GIVE A SNAPSHOT OF HOW WELL WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT THIS PAST YEAR, UH, FOR OUR COMMUNITY REPORT, A COUPLE OF THINGS TO POINT OUT ARE TOTAL CHECKOUTS.

WE HAD OVER 401,859 TOTAL CHECKOUTS FOR THE YEAR.

WE HAD OVER 542 PROGRAMS AS WELL AS 127,751 VISITORS COME THROUGH OUR DOORS TO NOW, WHEN, WHEN YOU SAY VISITORS, DOES THAT MEAN THAT, UM, LIKE YOU GOT THOSE SCANNERS THERE AND WHEN PEOPLE WALK THROUGH, DOES THAT COUNT EACH TIME A PERSON GOES BY OR IT COUNTS EVERY TIME SOMEONE WALKS THROUGH THEM.

SO, INTO THE BUILDING? YES.

SO THEN, SO THEN IF YOU, YOU WALK THROUGH IT AND THEN YOU GO BACK OUT TO YOUR CAR AND THEN YOU WALK THROUGH AGAIN, IT DOESN'T COUNT IT TWICE.

YEAH.

WELL, HOW DOES IT KNOW WHO YOU ARE? IT ONLY COUNTS IT DIRECTIONALLY.

MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

BUT IF YOU GO OUT, COME BACK AND THEN, SO IT'LL COUNT TWICE.

YEAH.

THERE'S NO WAY.

I WAS JUST, YEAH.

IT'S NOT, NOT THAT, NOT THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE OVER THERE DOING THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IT'S JUST THE BEST NUMBER WE CAN GET WITH THAT.

YES.

.

UM, ALSO WITH OUR, UH, VOLUNTEER HOURS, WE HAVE AN AMAZING VOLUNTEER GROUP, UH, THAT DOES EVERYTHING FROM HELPING US PULL HOLDS TO GETTING OUR BOOKS READY TO GO ONTO THE SHELVES, TO HELPING US WITH PROGRAMMING.

WE HAD A TOTAL OF 8,860 VOLUNTEER HOURS.

AND, UM, JUST TO KIND OF, YES.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S FOUR PERSON YEARS, I'M SORRY, FOUR

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PERSON YEARS.

IT'S 2000 HOURS A YEAR.

AND SO THAT'S, YEP.

SO THAT'D BE LIKE HIRING FOUR PEOPLE FOR THAT YEAR.

I MEAN, NOT HIRING, BUT FOR FOUR PEOPLE COMING TO WORK EVERY DAY.

YES.

WOW.

AND I ACTUALLY GO INTO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU OUR INCREASES.

UM, AT THE BOTTOM THERE, WE HAD A TOTAL 7% INCREASE IN THOSE VOLUNTEER HOURS JUST FOR THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR.

AND THIS IS A NUMBER, UM, THAT'S FROM THE INDEPENDENT SECTOR.

THEY DO AN EQUIVALENT FOR HOURLY RATES FOR, UH, VOLUNTEER WORK.

AND THIS IS JUST FOR THE STATE OF VIRGINIA.

THAT TOTALS TO ABOUT, UH, $295,747 ALTOGETHER.

OKAY.

YEP.

AND, UM, SO FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, OUR CIRCULATION HAS INCREASED OVER 3%.

AND THEN, UM, TWO, OUR PATRONS ADDED, UH, WAS AN INCREASE OF 8%.

AND THEN TWO REALLY INTERESTING, UH, ONES THAT WE HAD, WE HAD A 62% INCREASE IN OUR REFERENCE QUESTIONS.

THIS IS ANYTHING FROM SOMEBODY COMING UP THAT NEEDS HELP FINDING A BOOK TO, UH, THEY NEED HELP FINDING SPECIFIC INFORMATION LIKE FILLING OUT AN APPLICATION, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND, UH, WE PRIDE IN TRYING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE BEST, UH, INFORMATION THAT WE CAN, CONNECTING THEM TO THE, THE, THE BEST RESOURCES.

SO WE'VE ADDED PROGRAMS LIKE WE HAVE, UH, ONE CALLED WHAT THE TECH THAT WE HAVE EVERY TUESDAY FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED, UH, TECH SUPPORT AND ANYTHING FROM HOW TO GET STARTED ON A LAPTOP OR SOMETHING WITH THEIR PHONE.

AND THIS JUST ALLOWS US TO GIVE MORE IN DEPTH, UM, ONE-ON-ONE HELP AS NEEDED, UM, AS WELL AS BEING UPDATE IN RESOURCES AND, UH, PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS.

SO IF SOMEONE DOES COME IN AND WE CAN'T NECESSARILY GIVE THEM THE ONE-ON-ONE HELP, THEY NEED, WE CAN CONNECT THEM WITH THAT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION.

SO HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHAT, WHERE DOES THE FISCALS YEAR START AND STOP? UH, SO FOR US, IT'S, UM, STARTS JAN OR JULY 1ST, AND IT ENDS IN THE END OF JUNE.

SO JUNE 3RD.

YES.

SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY IN FISCAL YEAR 25 NOW? CURRENTLY, YES.

SO THE, THE NUMBERS ON THE RIGHT, THAT IS JUST FOR OUR END OF, THAT'S AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

WE COMPILE EVERYTHING FOR JUST FY 24.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OVER ON THE RIGHT THERE, JUST BECAUSE WE HAD THE NUMBERS READY FOR JULY.

THIS IS JUST THE FIRST MONTH GOING INTO, UH, FISCAL YEAR, UH, FY 25.

WE'VE ALREADY HAD AN INCREASE IN 6% WITH OUR CIRCULATION.

UM, AND ONE THAT'S REALLY AWESOME IS OUR DATABASES HAVE ACTUALLY INCREASED BY 33%.

UM, THERE'S A TON OF DIFFERENT DATABASES THAT WE OFFER FOR THE PUBLIC.

IT'S FREE TO USE AS LONG AS YOU HAVE YOUR LIBRARY CARD.

AND THESE ARE THINGS FROM, UH, ONES THAT ARE PROVIDED TO US BY THE LIBRARY OF VIRGINIA.

WE HAVE ONE CALLED, UH, THERE'S A COMPANY CALLED BRAIN FUSE.

THEY HAVE THREE SEPARATE DATABASES WE OFFER, UH, HELP.

NOW, IF ANYBODY HAS EVER HEARD OF TUTORING.COM IS ANOTHER SIMILAR SERVICE.

SO, UM, HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS OR STUDENTS OF ALL AGES WITH THEIR PARENTS CAN GET ONLINE AND THEY CAN GET HOMEWORK HELP.

UH, IT'LL PAIR YOU WITH, UM, UH, ONLINE TUTORS.

SO KIND OF ZOOM SESSIONS THAT WAY.

OR IF YOU'RE WORKING ON A PARTICULAR ASSIGNMENT, YOU CAN SEND YOUR WORK IN AND THEY'LL GIVE YOU FEEDBACK.

SO THAT'S KIND, KIND OF SCARY.

SOMEBODY MAY ACTUALLY LEARN SOMETHING IN HIGH SCHOOL.

.

UM, ON TOP OF THAT, THERE'S TWO OTHER ONES.

JOB NOW, KIND OF JUST THE SAME THING, ONLY IT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR HELPING WITH, UH, JOB DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

SO PEOPLE NEED HELP WITH THEIR RESUMES.

THEY CAN SEND THAT IN TO GET HELP.

THEY'LL BE PAIRED WITH A JOB COACH THAT CAN HELP THEM WITH INTERVIEW SERVICES, UH, OR, UM, OTHER JOB DEVELOPMENT RESOURCES.

SO SOME CERTAIN, UM, JOB PROVIDE OR REQUIRE YOU TO TAKE TESTS.

SO THERE'S TECH TEST PREP, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, WE ALSO HAVE VET NOW, SO OFFER VA SERVICES.

PEOPLE GET OUTTA THE MILITARY, THEY'RE NOT SURE WHAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE TO THEM.

IT'LL PAIR THEM WITH SOMEBODY IN ORDER TO GET THOSE RESOURCES.

SO, SO WHEN YOU SAY 33, 30 3% DATABASES MM-HMM.

, DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU'VE GOT 33% MORE DATABASES AVAILABLE, OR 33% USAGE? USAGE? OKAY.

YES.

SO IT'S AN INCREASE IN THE USAGE OF THOSE DATABASES.

UM, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE ADDED A COUPLE, WHICH I'LL BE ABLE TO HIGHLIGHT IN A LITTLE BIT.

OKAY.

A LITTLE BIT SOON.

UM, JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF SOME ADDITIONAL ONES WE HAVE OFFERED.

UM, THERE'S GA LEGAL FORMS. PATRONS CAN COME IN IF THEY NEED HELP, UH, CREATING A LEASE, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, GETTING RENT ON AN APARTMENT OR A HOUSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, DIFFERENT LEGAL FORMS FOR, AND IT'S NOT JUST VIRGINIA, THEY OFFER IT FOR MULTIPLE DIFFERENT STATES.

UH, WE ALSO OFFER, UM, THERE'S MAG MAGER DIGITAL MAGAZINES.

SO, UM, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO ON AND PAY FOR A SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE TO A POPULAR MAGAZINE, YOU CAN GO ON AGAIN WITH YOUR LIBRARY CARD AND ACCESS THE CURRENT ISSUES AND BACK ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE.

UM, AND THEN TWO REALLY QUICK ONES THAT I LIKE, UH, TRANSPARENT LANGUAGE.

UH, IF ANYBODY'S HEARD OF LIKE DUOLINGO OR, UM, ROSETTA STONE, I LIKE TO SAY IT'S LIKE A, A GOOD MIX BETWEEN THE TWO.

UH, THEY OFFER, UH, MIX BETWEEN, I THINK IT'S LIKE 110 OR 120 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES THEY HAVE ON OFFER FOR LEARNING, UM, INCLUDING VERSIONS FOR KIDS AS WELL.

THEY ONLY OFFER THE BASIC ONES FOR LIKE SPANISH, FRENCH, GERMAN, UM, THE MORE POPULAR LANGUAGES.

BUT FOR KIDS, EVEN AS EARLY AS KINDERGARTEN THAT ARE TRYING TO LEARN A LANGUAGE, THEY CAN USE THE, UH, EASIER ACCESSIBLE VERSION FOR THEM.

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ALRIGHT.

SO THIS JUST GOES INTO OUR GENERAL UPDATES AND SERVICES, UM, PRIMARILY FOR OUR FUNDRAISING ACTIVITIES AND FOR OUR OUTREACH.

UM, IN GENERAL, OUR FUNDRAISING ACTIVITIES, THEY GO TOWARDS PROGRAMMING, COLLECTIONS, UH, EQUIPMENT, ET CETERA, TO EXPAND AND IMPROVE UPON THE LIBRARY ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT OUR OPERATING BUDGET IS.

SO IT GOES A LONG WAY TO HELPING US OUT.

UH, ONE OF THE ONES WE DID IN JANUARY WAS OUR THIRD ANNUAL PUZZLE FUNDRAISER.

UH, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD UP EVERY YEAR, AND IT'S A LOT OF FUN.

UH, ONE OF OUR AMAZING BOARD MEMBERS ACTUALLY, UH, GOT US STARTED AND RUNNING WITH THIS ONE, AND IT ALLOWS PATRONS TO COME IN, THEY PAY TO FORM, UH, A TEAM, AND THEN ON THE DAY OF, EVERYBODY GETS THE SAME EXACT PUZZLE, AND THEN THEY RACE TO SEE HOW FAST, UM, THEY CAN DO IT AT THE END.

UM, IT'S ALSO A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR SPONSORSHIPS.

UH, WE'VE HAD, UH, DUNKING DONUTS.

OUR, OUR LOCAL BRANCH HAS PARTNERED WITH US, UH, THIS PAST YEAR, AND WE'VE, EVERYBODY WAS HAVING A BLAST.

UM, AND OF COURSE, YES, I ENDED UP, UM, AS DIRECTOR ON FEBRUARY 1ST.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAD OUR DAY OF GIVING CAMPAIGN.

WE DO THIS EVERY, UH, FEBRUARY.

WE HAD A AWESOME, AMAZING DONOR THAT DID A $5,000 MATCH.

UH, AND SO THAT WAS OUR GOAL.

AND WE, UH, WE HAD SOME AMAZING COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT CAME TOGETHER.

WE MADE IT.

AND, UH, OVERALL WE MADE ABOUT OVER $10,300 FOR OUR OUTREACH ACTIVITIES.

UM, OUTREACH IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF WHAT WE LIKE TO DO BECAUSE IN ORDER TO REACH PATRONS THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO REACH BEFORE, YOU ACTUALLY, WE REALLY NEED TO GET OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO EVERY YEAR IS, UH, MAIN STREET GEEKS FREE COMIC BOOK DAY.

UH, THIS IS A GREAT EVENT THAT REALLY PROMOTES LITERACY AND ANY FORM, UH, MYSELF INCLUDED, GOT ME READING WAS, UH, GRAPHIC NOVELS, GRAPH GARFIELD, ALL THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

UM, SO WE MEET AT MAIN STREET, GEEK ON MAIN STREET ON MAY 4TH.

UH, AND WE, UH, ANYBODY WHO COMES INTO THE STORE GETS A FREE COMIC BOOK FOR THE DAY.

UH, WE WERE ABLE TO PROMOTE WHAT SERVICES WE HAVE, INCLUDING OUR OWN GRAPHIC NOVEL COLLECTIONS, AS WELL AS DO A RAFFLE.

UM, ALSO EXCUSE TO DRESS UP IF ANY OF THE STAFF HAVE AN EXCUSE TO DRESS UP, WE'RE GONNA TAKE IT.

SO, UH, WE WERE ALL IN STAR WARS COSTUMES AS IT WAS ALSO MAY THE FOURTH .

UM, WE ALSO PARTICIPATED IN FAMILY FUN DAY ON MAY 11TH.

UH, WE WERE ABLE TO TALK WITH OVER 525 PEOPLE TO PROMOTE SERVICES AND GET THE INFORMATION OUT, UM, AS WELL AS, UM, INTO OTHER AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY.

UM, SO WITH THE YOUTH DEPARTMENT, THEY WERE ABLE TO REACH OVER 50 ESL AND, UH, ESL STUDENTS AND PARENTS AT THE, UH, HILDA J BARBER BARBER SCHOOL, AS WELL AS DO A STORY TIME AT RIVERMONT CHRISTIAN GEAR PRESCHOOL.

UM, SOME ADDITIONAL ONES WE WERE ABLE TO DO ALSO INCLUDE, UH, WORKING WITH, UH, THE WARREN COUNTY JOB FAIR, UH, AS WELL WITH SOCIAL SERVICES.

WE LOVE PARTNERING WITH THEM.

WE WERE ABLE TO DO, UH, GO TO THEIR EVENT AND TALK TO OVER 43 PEOPLE.

AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, WE WERE AWARDED THE MELLON FOUNDATION GRANT, UH, WHICH WAS OVER, UM, $500,000, WHICH STARTED OFFICIALLY APRIL 1ST.

I'LL BE ABLE TO TALK MORE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT.

UM, AND ONE OF THE COOL THINGS WE WERE ABLE TO DO WITH THIS, UH, WE, UH, THE, UH, BOARD PRESIDENT, MYSELF AND SEVERAL OTHERS, WERE ABLE TO GO ON A LITTLE BIT OF AN IDEA GATHERING FIELD TRIP TO A LOT OF THE OTHER, UH, LIBRARIES IN THE SURROUNDING REGION TO KIND OF GIVE US SOME MORE FEEL ON, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS WE MAY HADN'T HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT WITH DOING A MAKER SPACE AND MEMORY LAB.

UM, IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

GOT TO SEE WHAT A LOT OF OTHER LIBRARIES ARE DOING, AND WE CAME AWAY WITH A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS, WHICH, JUST TO GIMME AN IDEA AS TO WHICH LIBRARIES DID YOU GO TO, LIKE, UH, UP IN FREDERICK COUNTY OR, UH, SO WE WENT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.

SO IT WAS MORE PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY.

SO LIKE CENTERVILLE GOING UP TOWARDS LIKE, BRAMBLETON, THINGS LIKE THAT.

HMM.

OKAY.

YEAH.

ANYBODY OUTTA STATE? UH, NO.

YEAH, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T GO QUITE THAT FAR.

.

ALRIGHT.

AND THIS IS GOING INTO, UH, MORE OF OUR SERVICE UPDATES.

UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE PRIDE OURSELVES IN BEING ABLE TO DO IS REALLY LOOKING AT OUR USAGE STATISTICS, UM, CHANGES AND, AND TECHNOLOGY AND WAYS WE CAN UPDATE OUR SERVICES TO MAKE SURE WE'RE REALLY PROVIDING THE COMMUNITY WHAT THEY NEED.

UM, ONE OF OUR SERVICES IS FRUGAL MUSIC.

UM, STREAMING SERVICES ARE BECOMING MORE OF THE PREVALENT WAY PEOPLE ARE CONSUMING THEIR MEDIA.

UH, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE PROVIDING THAT, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE WE WERE MAKING THINGS AVAILABLE FOR OUR PATRONS THAT STILL MAY NOT HAVE THE BEST INTERNET USAGE IN THE AREA AND, AND REALLY NEED TO BE ABLE TO COME INTO TOWN TO GET, UM, THEIR INTERNET SERVICE.

SO THIS ALLOWS US TO, UM, DOWNLOAD ANY MUSIC FROM THEIR, WITH YOUR LIBRARY CARD, UM, ANY MUSIC THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR CATALOG.

AND THEN YOU GET TO KEEP THOSE FILES, UM, INDEFINITELY.

AND IT'S, IT USED TO BE FIVE DOWNLOADS PER WEEK, BUT TO MAKE SURE WE WERE UPDATING IT, IT IS NOW THREE DOWNLOADS PER WEEK AND THEN THREE HOURS PER DAY OF STREAMING.

UM, WHICH DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A LOT, BUT IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, UP AND ABOUT AND YOU'RE, AND YOU'RE USING IT, IT CAN REALLY HELP, ESPECIALLY WITH THE COST OF STREAMING SERVICES OR JUST EVER, EVER INCREASING.

AND THEN THIS IS ONE OF MY MORE, UM,

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UH, POPULAR ONES THAT I'M REALLY EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT.

UH, WE NOW HAVE ACCESS TO TWO NEW GENEALOGY DATABASES.

UM, THIS IS SOMETHING VERY POPULAR IN OUR AREA, AND THIS IS, UH, AVAILABLE THROUGH THE MELLON GRANT.

UH, WE NOW HAVE ACCESS TO FOLD THREE AND NEWSPAPERS.COM.

UH, WE ALREADY HAD ACCESS TO ANCESTRY.COM LIBRARY EDITION.

UH, FOR THOSE WHO ARE REALLY INTERESTED.

IT IS A VERY COSTLY SUBSCRIPTION.

SO WE ARE VERY GLAD WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE THIS TO THE COMMUNITY.

YOU CAN COME INTO THE LIBRARY AND IF YOU ARE ON ONE OF OUR COMPUTERS OR IF YOU'RE ON OUR WIFI, YOU'RE ABLE TO ACCESS ANCESTRY.

AND THIS ALLOWS YOU TO LOOK AT, UM, ANYTHING THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR COLLECTION AS FAR AS OLD VITAL RECORDS, UM, OR, UH, ANY OTHER TYPE OF GENEALOGY RECORDS THAT THEY HAVE.

THE NEW ONES, FOLD THREE IS STRICTLY FOR MILITARY DA DATABASE, UH, AND, AND RECORDS AS WELL AS NEWSPAPERS.COM.

THIS IS WORLD EDITION.

SO ANY HISTORIC NEWSPAPERS FOR THE UNITED STATES AS WELL AS OVERSEAS THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR COLLECTION, YOU CAN ACCESS WITH YOUR LIBRARY CARD.

UM, AND FOR DOING ANY KIND OF HISTORY OR GENEALOGY RESEARCH, IT NEWSPAPERS HAVE SO MUCH WILD RANGE OF INFORMATION THAT YOU CAN GET.

EXCUSE ME.

UM, INCLUDING MYSELF.

I NEVER WOULD'VE FOUND OUT THAT MY GREAT GRANDFATHER WAS DANGER PRONE, UH, ALWAYS SHOWING UP IN THE LIVE IN THE, THE, THE, UH, NEWSPAPER ABOUT A HUNDRED YEARS AGO, GETTING IN TROUBLE.

SO IT'S, UH, PRETTY COOL.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

UM, OUR, UH, GOING INTO SOME TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'VE UPDATED.

UH, IF YOU COME INTO THE LIBRARY IN FRONT OF, UH, THE CIRCULATION DESK, WE HAVE UPGRADED, UH, TWO OF OUR SELF CHECKOUTS.

UM, THESE ARE VERY USER FRIENDLY, THEY LOOK GREAT.

UH, AND THE BEST THING ABOUT 'EM IS THEY ARE NOW A DA COMPLIANT, SO THAT IF YOU ARE WHEELCHAIR BOUND OR IF YOU JUST WANT YOUR KIDS TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRY DOING IT THEMSELVES, THERE'S A LITTLE LATCH ON THE SIDE, SO THEY'LL MOVE UP AND DOWN.

UH, UH, THE OTHER THING TOO IS WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE STREAMLINING OUR SERVICES, UH, TO MAKE THINGS MUCH EASIER FOR OUR PATRONS.

UH, ONE OF OUR HEAVILY USED SERVICES IS OUR, UM, PRINTING AND SCANNING DOCUMENTS.

WHEN YOU COME IN, UH, BEFORE IF YOU NEEDED TO SCAN SOMETHING, THERE WAS A LENGTHY PROCESS OF PUTTING IT ONTO A FLASH DRIVE, GETTING ONTO ONE OF OUR COMPUTERS OR YOUR OWN DEVICE IN ORDER TO SEND IT OUT.

NOW YOU CAN JUST GO RIGHT UP TO ONE OF OUR SCANNERS, UH, PUTTING YOUR DOCUMENTS, THROW IN YOUR EMAIL, AND YOU CAN SEND IT DIRECTLY.

AND IT, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK FROM THIS.

PATRONS ARE EXTREMELY HAPPY ABOUT IT.

UM, ANOTHER AREA WE ARE TRYING TO, UH, EXPAND ON IS ADDING MORE RESOURCES, UM, FOR OUR ESL PATRONS.

UH, ONE OF, SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS PAST SIX MONTHS IS OUR PAMPHLETS, LIKE OUR GENERAL REGISTRATION FORMS, SOME OF OUR, UH, PAMPHLETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, TRANSLATED INTO SPANISH, SO IT'S READILY AVAILABLE FOR OUR PATRONS.

AND WE HAD AN AMAZING VOLUNTEER WHO WAS A RETIRED SPANISH TEACHER FROM SHENANDOAH UNIVERSITY.

HELPED US OUT WITH THAT.

UM, IN ADDITION, WE HAVE ALSO, UH, UPGRADED OUR, UM, HOTSPOT AND, UH, LAPTOP LENDING PROGRAM, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS.

WE STARTED IT BACK DURING COVID IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE OUR PATRONS COULD STILL ACCESS OUR SERVICES, UH, EVEN WHEN THEY COULDN'T NECESSARILY GET IN THE BUILDING.

UM, WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, UPGRADE THIS TO USING A COMPANY CALLED TECHSOUP, WHO THAT'S PRIMARILY WORKS WITH, UH, CHARITIES AND OTHER NONPROFITS, UH, TO GIVE, UH, MASSIVE DISCOUNTS ON TECHNOLOGY LIKE HOTSPOTS.

SO WE, UH, TEST THEM OUT AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE, UH, SERVICE PROVIDED WAS JUST AS GOOD AS WHAT WE WERE USING BEFORE.

UM, AND WE WERE ABLE TO SAVE A SIGNIFICANT, UH, AMOUNT COMPARED TO WHAT WE WERE, UH, PAYING FOR THAT SERVICE.

AND WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO ADD MORE.

UM, WE ARE LIMITED PER YEAR HOW MANY WE'RE ALLOWED TO PURCHASE, BUT THE DEMAND FOR IT IS VERY HIGH.

SO THIS WAS SOMETHING WE WERE REALLY PLEASED IN BEING ABLE TO DO.

ALRIGHT.

AND THEN ALSO WITH OUR FIVE YEAR TECHNOLOGY REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE, UH, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE, UH, COMPUTERS THAT WE HAD OVER IN OUR ADULT SIDE OF THE LIBRARY FOR PUBLIC USE.

UH, WE WERE ABLE TO LOOK, UH, DURING THE, THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR, THEY WERE BEING READY TO GET RE READY FOR REPLACEMENT.

HOWEVER, WE WERE LOOKING AT OUR USAGE STATISTICS AND THE WAY WITH THE DI DI DIGITAL DIVIDE IS CLOSING A LITTLE BIT, PATRONS ARE MORE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR OWN DEVICES AND, AND GET ONTO THE INTERNET.

WE DIDN'T SEE THE NEED FOR HAVING THE AMOUNT OF COMPUTERS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAD, SO WE WENT AHEAD AND RETIRED TWO BANKS OF THE COMPUTERS THAT WE HAD, UM, IN THE CENTER PORTION, UH, BEHIND WHERE OUR REFERENCE DESK IS A LITTLE BACK FURTHER.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO BETTER USE THAT SPACE FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

UM, IN ADDITION, WE WENT AHEAD AND REPLACED THE OTHER COMPUTERS.

SO WE DO HAVE, UH, TWO BANKS OF, UM, SIX COMPUTERS THAT ARE STILL AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO USE.

SO, SO THAT'S A TOTAL OF 12? YES.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

, YEAH.

UH, 12, WE RETIRED AND THEN WE HAD THE 12.

AND IN ADDITION, WE WERE ALSO ABLE TO SAVE AS WE HAD, UH, 12 COMPUTERS IN OUR COMPUTER LAB THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY RENOVATING.

I CAN, UH, GET MORE INTO THAT AS WELL.

UH, WE DECIDED TO, INSTEAD

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OF USING, UH, PC COMPUTERS AND REPLACING THOSE, WE DECIDED TO GO WITH LAPTOPS SO THAT, UH, WE CAN UTILIZE THAT SPACE AND FOR OTHER MEANS AS WELL AS STILL PROVIDING THAT ACCESS TO COMPUTERS FOR PROGRAMS AS WELL.

AND THEN, UM, UH, LAST FOR THIS PAGE, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THE LIBRARY REALLY PRIDES ITSELF ON IS BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY WITH A REALLY PREMIER FACILITY.

UH, AND OUR BUILDING IS NOW GOING ON 15 YEARS OLD, AND AS PRIORITIES CHANGE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE BEING PROACTIVE AND UPDATING AND IMPROVING ON, UH, THE FACILITY ITSELF.

SO WITH THAT IN MIND, UM, WE WOULD REALLY LOVE TO, UM, ASK THE COUNTY TO COME IN AND JOIN THE LIBRARY IN CREATING A COMMUNITY THAT COULD, UM, SORRY, COMMITTEE TO WORK ON UPDATING OUR LIBRARY'S CAPITAL BUDGET.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

UM, WE HAVE A BUILDING COMMITTEE AND I THINK YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT'S NOT ON IT.

SO BEING I'M ON THAT COMMITTEE AND I'M ON YOUR BOARD.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, TO BLEND THOSE TWO AND BRING IN MS. SHACKLEFORD, WHO I THINK KNOWS EVERY CORNER OF EVERY BUILDING IN THIS COUNTY THAT THE COUNTY OWNS.

SO I THINK THAT'S, UM, SOMETHING THAT'S DOABLE AND WE CAN BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP AND WORK ON A FIVE YEAR PLAN OR BEYOND FOR THE, FOR THAT.

SO WE WILL, WE'LL WORK ON THAT.

ALRIGHT.

WE'LL BE IN TOUCH.

ALRIGHT.

AND JUST GOING INTO OUR PROGRAMS. UM, SO WE, THIS IS OF COURSE JUST A SNAPSHOT OF ALL THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS WE HAVE HAVE GOING ON WITHIN SIX MONTHS.

SO I WON'T GET TOO MUCH INTO IT JUST BECAUSE WE WOULD BE HERE FOREVER, .

UM, BUT JUST FOR JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, UH, WE HAD OUR WINTER READING PROGRAM, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE DO EVERY YEAR.

UH, THIS ALLOWS US TO, UH, PROMOTE LITERACY, BUT ALSO IT'S A LITTLE FUN ACTIVITY TO GET PEOPLE OUT AND READING DURING THOSE COLD MONTHS.

SO EVERY TIME YOU READ A BOOK, IT GOES TOWARDS POINTS TO WINNING PRIZES.

UH, THIS IS FOR ALL AGES.

AND OVER THE COURSE OF OUR PAST WINTER READING PROGRAM, WE HAD OVER 121 ADULTS THAT PARTICIPATED AS WELL AS 420 YOUTH AND AN OVERALL OF 13,101 BOOKS READ.

UM, AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT, WE ALWAYS HAVE A LOT OF PROGRAMS GOING ON, UH, RELATED.

SO SOME OF THE, UH, ONES I'LL HIGHLIGHT HERE, WE, UH, HAD A AMAZING LOCAL DANCE, UH, INSTRUCTOR THAT DONATED HER TIME TO DO SEVERAL, UH, CULTURAL HAWAIIAN DANCE PROGRAMS FOR TEENS AND ADULTS AND, AND CHILDREN.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAD OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE MASTER GARDENERS.

UM, THEY'VE DONE, UH, AMAZING PROGRAMS FOR, FOR US IN THE PAST.

AND THIS PAST MONTH THEY DID ONE FOR CHILDREN'S.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE, THE PICTURE THERE.

UM, THEY ALWAYS LOVE IT.

AND THEN AS WELL AS ADULTS, WE HAD A WINTER SEED SEWING PROGRAM THAT HAD OVER 45 ATTENDEES.

UM, AND THE LAST ONE, WE ACTUALLY STILL HAVE THE RECORDING UP ON OUR YOUTUBE PAGE.

UM, WE HAD, UH, A GENTLEMAN NAMED, UH, PAUL KOLD.

HE IS A VIRGINIA MASTER NATURALIST, AS WELL AS THE CONVER CONSERVATION DIRECTOR FOR, UH, LOUDOUN COUNTY'S ISAAC WALTON LEAGUE.

HE DID A AWESOME PRESENTATION CALLED THE LOST HISTORY OF POTOMAC MARBLE.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE HIS BOOK IN THE LIBRARY, AND IT'S ABOUT HOW THEY USED THE LOCAL RESERVOIRS TO, UM, ACTUALLY REBUILD THE CAPITOL AFTER IT WAS SACKED DURING THE WAR OF 1812.

SO, UM, ANYBODY INTERESTED? YEAH, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE THAT, UH, RECORDED UP ON OUR YOUTUBE PAGE GOING INTO, UH, MARCH AND APRIL.

UH, WE WERE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH, UH, A TON OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS FOR PROGRAMS. WE PARTICIPATED IN THE WARREN COUNTY'S, UH, GLOBAL DAY OF UNPLUGGING, WHICH WAS, UH, DONE BY THE WARREN COALITION.

UH, THIS WAS AN AWESOME, UH, PROGRAM THAT TRIED TO, UH, GET THE INFORMATION OUT ON HOW TECHNOLOGY AND SCREEN TIME SPECIFICALLY CAN, UH, BE DAMAGING TO YOUR MENTAL HEALTH.

SO IT'S TRYING TO GET PEOPLE OUT AND GET AWAY FROM THEIR SCREENS AND JUST, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT TECHNOLOGY DRIVEN.

SO WE HAD A BOARD GAME PROGRAM AT THE LIBRARY FOR ADULTS AND TEENS AND, AND KIDS.

THEY LOVED IT.

UM, AS WELL AS TEAMING UP WITH, UH, PARKS AND RECS TO DO THE EASTER EXTRAVAGANZA EVENT AT THE PARK WHERE WE HAD OVER 30 AT OR 300 ATTENDEES.

UH, THEY HAD A WIDE RANGE OF ACTIVITIES THEY CAN DO, INCLUDING TAKING PICTURES WITH THE EASTER BUNNY, WHICH EVERYBODY LOVED.

TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF OUR LARGER PROGRAMS. UH, IN APRIL FOR THE, OF COURSE, APRIL 8TH ECLIPSE, WE HAD AN ECLIPSE WATCH PARTY THAT WAS, UM, HOSTED BY OUR FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY, UH, ORGANIZATION.

UH, THEY WERE AMAZING.

UH, WE HAD OVER 300 PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED.

THEY WERE OUT IN OUR CHILDREN'S GARDEN AND THEY WERE ABLE TO GET TOGETHER TO WATCH THE ECLIPSE HAPPEN IN REAL TIME, AS WELL AS HAVE SOME OTHER ACTIVITIES LIKE, UH, ROCK PAINTING AS WELL AS A, UH, CONCESSION STAND THAT WAS RUN BY FOSSIL.

UM, DURING, UH, THE EVENT AS WELL AS PRIOR, WE WERE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE OVER A THOUSAND ECLIPSE

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GLASSES, UH, FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANNA BE WATCHING THAT WITH YOUR BARE EYES.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM OUR ONE PHOTO, UH, THEY WERE IN EXTREME HIGH DEMAND.

UH, WE HAD A LINE GOING WAY OUT THE BUILDING.

AND THEN OF COURSE, IN APRIL WE HAD OUR, UH, TASTE FOR BOOKS, UM, UH, ANNUAL FUNDRAISER THAT WE DO, UH, ONE OF THE BEST PARTIES IN TOWN.

UH, THIS YEAR'S THEME WAS THE BRITISH INVASION.

UH, ANOTHER EXCUSE FOR ALL OF US TO DRESS UP.

AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR ONE STAFF PHOTO THERE, UH, WE ALL HAD A BLAST.

UM, IT WAS EIGHT.

WE HAD 18 TABLE HOSTS ALTOGETHER WELL OVER 250 TICKETS SOLD AND, UH, OVER $228,000 RAISED, UH, OVERALL.

UM, AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS COMING YEAR WHERE WE ARE DOING A, UM, MOVIE MAGIC THEME.

VERY OLD HOLLYWOOD.

SO HIGHLY RECOMMEND KEEPING A LOOKOUT FOR THE CALENDAR.

AND THEN ALSO DURING THE SUMMER, WE DO ALSO DO A SUMMER READING PROGRAM.

UH, THIS IS USUALLY BETWEEN, UH, THE 1ST OF JUNE, UH, TOWARDS THE END OF JULY OR AUGUST, DEPENDING ON WHERE THE CALENDAR FALLS.

UH, THIS YEAR'S THEME WAS A WORLD OF ADVENTURE.

WE HAD AN AMAZING KICKOFF EVENT WHERE WE HAD A PETTING ZOO OUT IN THE GARDEN FOR CHILDREN.

AND ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS ACTUALLY DRESSED UP AS SPIDER-MAN, WHICH THE KIDS ABSOLUTELY LOVED.

WE HAD A, UH, LINE OUT FOR TAKING PICTURES WITH HIM.

UM, OVERALL WE HAD, UH, 198 ADULTS REGISTER FOR THE PROGRAM, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, AND SO THE SUMMER READING PROGRAM, IT'S LIKE THE READING PROGRAM OR THE WINTER READING PROGRAM.

ANY BOOK THAT YOU READ DURING THE COURSE OF THE PROGRAM, IT'S PRI UH, POINTS TO WIN PRIZES FOR THE KIDS.

THEY HAVE DIFFERENT PRIZES THAT THEY WIN, UH, EVERY WEEK FOR THE ADULTS.

WE HAVE LIKE PRIZE BASKETS.

AS YOU CAN SEE.

OUR ONE, UH, ADULT WINNER IN THAT ONE PHOTO THERE.

UH, THIS YEAR WE DID DECIDE TO CHANGE IT UP FOR THE ADULTS A LITTLE BIT.

INSTEAD OF, UH, EVERY BOOK YOU READ, WE DECIDED TO DO MY MINUTES.

UM, 'CAUSE UH, I DUNNO ABOUT YOU, BUT I I, SOMETIMES YOU END UP READING A SMALL BOOK AND OTHER TIMES YOU GET THOSE GIANT HOMES.

SO WE WANTED TO EVEN THE PLAYING FIELD A LITTLE BIT.

UM, AND THEN ALSO, UH, AS, AS PART OF THIS, THERE'S AN APP YOU CAN DOWNLOAD OR GO ON THE WEBSITE.

IT'S CALLED BEAN STACK.

UH, A LOT OF LIBRARIES USE THAT FOR OUR SUMMER READING PROGRAMS. IT ALLOWS US TO, UH, CREATE OUR OWN PROGRAM.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO IS BADGES.

SO DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES LIKE, UH, FOR THE ADULTS, IT'S, UH, OH, YOU KNOW, READ THIS GENRE OR, UM, UH, GO TO THIS ACTIVITY, THAT TYPE OF THING.

SO, UM, SO THEN YOU WOULD EARN THAT BADGE.

THERE WAS OVER 2,148 BADGES EARNED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROGRAM.

AND FOR THE ADULTS, 352,719 MINUTES READ OVERALL.

AND THEN FOR THE CHILDREN'S AND TEENS, WE HAD 689 REGISTER, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF THE PROGRAM, UH, 5,075 BADGES EARNED AS WELL AS 22,679 BOOKS READ.

THAT IS JUST ASTOUNDING.

THAT'S A SCHOOL.

EXACTLY.

I MEAN, THAT'S POPULATION OF SOME OF OUR BIGGER, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT RESI IS NOW, BUT I, WHEN I'VE LEFT RESI, WE WERE AT 600 PLUS.

SO THAT'S LIKE THE WHOLE SCHOOL WAS READING IN YOUR PROGRAM.

YEP.

THAT'S OUR GOAL.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET 'EM TO READ AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

AND THEN JUST SOME OF THE PROGRAMS WE HAD DURING MAY AND JUNE.

UM, THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE ONES THAT WE'RE SO THANKFUL FOR AND WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE DOING EVERY YEAR.

AND IT'S GETTING BIGGER.

EVERY YEAR IS OUR TI TINY ART SHOW.

UH, THIS STARTED WHEN WE HAD THE VIRGINIA FINE ARTS MUSEUM HAD THEIR ART MOBILE UP AND PEOPLE LOVED IT SO MUCH, WE JUST KEPT DOING IT.

AND, UH, THIS IS A PASSIVE PROGRAM.

SO DURING THE MONTH OF JUNE, YOU CAN COME IN, WE'LL GIVE YOU A KIT, IT'S LIKE A FOUR BY FOUR LITTLE CANVAS, UH, UH, UM, UH, OBJECT WITH, UM, DIFFERENT PAINTS AND STUFF IN THERE.

YOU CAN EITHER USE THAT OR YOU CAN CREATE YOUR OWN PIECE OF ART.

IT JUST HAS TO BE IN THE DIMENSIONS THAT WE SPECIFY.

UH, I THINK ONE YEAR WE HAD SOMEONE DO A NEEDLEPOINT THAT WAS JUST AMAZING.

UH, BUT YOU DO THAT FOR JUNE AND IN JULY IF YOU WANNA PARTICIPATE, YOU CAN BRING BACK YOUR, UM, WHATEVER ARTWORK YOU'VE CREATED AND THEN WE SHOWCASE IT IN THE LIBRARY.

UH, RIGHT NOW IT IS, UM, CURRENTLY, UH, WHERE WE HAVE OUR RECENTLY ADDED BOOKS.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID, UH, WITH THE SPACE WHEN WE MOVED, UM, THE BANK OF COMPUTERS, WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE WHERE WE HAD OUR PERIODICALS AND OUR, UM, UH, UH, BOARD GAME COLLECTION AND MOVE THEM UP TOWARDS THAT AREA.

AND IT'S A REALLY GREAT THING WE DID.

WE NEEDED THAT SPACE , UM, WITH THE AMOUNT OF KITS WE HAD.

AND THEN OF COURSE, A COUPLE OTHER ONES.

UH, WE HAVE AN AMAZING, UH, PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SHENANDOAH RIVER STATE PARK.

AND THEN ALSO ONE OF OUR, UH, AMAZING LOCAL PHOTOGRAPHERS WHO'S A VOLUNTEER AT THE LIBRARY.

UH, SHE DOES AR PHOTOGRAPHY AND BEYOND PROGRAM, AND IT'S AT THE SHENANDOAH RIVER STATE PARK.

UH, THEY DID AN I BIRD ID AND PHOTOGRAPHY PROGRAM.

UM, OTHER COOL THING ABOUT THIS IS IN, UH, TO HELP WITH GETTING INTO THE SHENANDOAH RIVER STATE PARK.

WE HAVE VIRGINIA PARK BAGS, UH, THAT YOU CAN CHECK OUT AT THE LIBRARY, WHICH DO INCLUDE PASSES TO GET INTO THE PARK, AS WELL AS SOME ACTIVITY BAGS, UH, UH, KITS FOR, FOR KIDS AS WELL.

SO, UM, AND THEN REAL QUICK, JUST ANOTHER ONE, UM, WE FOSSIL HOSTED ANOTHER PROGRAM

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WITH LAUREL RIDGE COMMUNITY COLLEGE, WHERE THEY CAME IN TO TALK ABOUT ROBOTICS AND AI, AND WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THEM BACK FOR SAM ECONN.

K.

AND OF COURSE, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE AN OVERVIEW ON WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR MELLON GRANT PROJECT.

UM, THE, UH, THIS STARTED APRIL 1ST.

IT IS OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE YEARS.

AND, UM, ONE OF THE MAIN PURPOSES FOR THIS IS TO UPGRADE OUR, UH, MEMORY LAB.

UH, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT A MEMORY LAB IS, IT ALLOWS PATRONS TO COME IN IF THEY HAVE VHS TAPES, PHOTOS, PHOTO NEGATIVES, UH, UH, PROJECTOR SLIDES, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND BE ABLE TO DIGITIZE THEM ONTO A FLASH DRIVE, UH, UH, EXTERNAL HARD DRIVE JUST SO THAT THEY CAN KEEP IT FOR THE FUTURE.

BECAUSE THESE ONLY LAST SO LONG.

UH, VHS USUALLY ONLY LASTS ABOUT 50 YEARS OR SO.

UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO DO WAS INCREASE THE FORMATS THAT WE ALLOW THAT, UH, ARE AVAILABLE FOR PATRONS TO BE ABLE TO DIGITIZE AS WELL AS, UM, REALLY, UH, EDUCATE PEOPLE ON PERSONAL ARCHIVING AS WELL AS, UH, INCREASE ON PARTNERSHIPS WITH LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS AND, UH, INCREASE LOCAL HISTORY, UM, INITIATIVES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, THE ONE THING WE WERE ABLE TO DO WITH THIS WAS, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT OUR COMPUTER LAB.

THIS WAS A SPACE IN THE LIBRARY THAT WAS REALLY UNDERUTILIZED.

UH, WE USED IT FOR PROGRAMMING, BUT IT WAS STUCK IN THIS, UM, JUST GENERAL CLASSROOM STYLE SETUP.

YOU COULDN'T DO MUCH MORE IN THAT.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO PUT IN SOME FRESH PAINT FLOORING.

SO WE PUT IN VINYL FLOORING, EASY TO CLEAN, UPDATE THE AV EQUIPMENT IN THERE SO WE CAN DO MORE PROGRAMMING, SHOWCASE, UH, TUTORIALS ON HOW TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS, AS WELL AS, UH, ADD IN COUNTER AND CABINETRY FOR STORAGE, FOR EQUIPMENT WORKSPACE, UM, ADD IN MAKER, EASILY ACCESSIBLE AND MOVABLE MAKERSPACE TABLE SO YOU CAN, UH, TURN THAT ROOM AROUND HOWEVER YOU LIKE, AS WELL AS ADD IN SOME MORE OUTLETS AND DATA PORTS FOR THE EQUIPMENT.

UM, AND AS PART OF THIS GRANT, WE WERE ABLE TO CREATE A MAKERSPACE ON TOP OF THE MEMORY LAB TOGETHER BECAUSE NOT ONLY CAN YOU GO IN, LEARN ABOUT YOUR LOCAL HISTORY, WHAT YOU CAN TAKE THAT, THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE LEARNED AND CREATE STUFF, UH, WITH THAT.

SO LIKE CREATE A, UM, T-SHIRT FOR, UH, THAT'S GOT YOUR FAMILY TREE ON TO GIVE TO YOUR, YOUR RELATIVES OR, UM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UM, SO A MAKER SPACE IS SOMETHING WE'VE REALLY WANTED TO DO IN THE PAST, AND IT'S A SPACE WHERE YOU CAN COME IN AND YOU'RE LITERALLY JUST MAKING THINGS.

IT CAN BE HIGH TECH, IT CAN BE LOW TECH.

SO HIGH TECH THINGS WOULD BE LIKE OUR GLOW FORGE, WHICH WOULD BE, UH, DOING ELABORATE DESIGNS FOR CUTTING INTO WOOD OR SLATE THINGS LIKE A SUBLIMATION PRINTER SO YOU CAN CREATE A DESIGN AND PRINT IT OUT TO MAKE YOUR OWN T-SHIRTS, UH, MUGS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AS WELL AS CRICKET MACHINES FOR LIKE VINYL AND PAPER, AS WELL AS, UM, JUST LOW TECH LIKE SEWING MACHINES AND, UM, UH, LIKE A LOOM.

SO WIDE RANGE OF THINGS THAT WE, WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT PATRONS HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACCESS THIS TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THAT THEY NORMALLY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO ACCESS BEFORE ANY, UH, ANY ODDS OF GETTING A 3D PRINTER IN THERE.

YES, THAT IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT AS WELL.

YES.

UM, YEAH, 3D PRINTER.

UM, THAT WAS JUST A SNAPSHOT OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE AVAILABLE IN THE SPACE.

UM, AND THEN ONE OF THE MORE, UH, EXCITING ONES THAT I LIKE, UH, AS I WAS MENTIONING BEFORE, WE WERE REALLY LOOKING AT THE SPACE WE HAD IN OUR ADULT SIDE AND HOW WE CAN BETTER UTILIZE IT, UH, BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE WHERE WE HAD THOSE SHELVINGS IN THE BACK, WE ARE NOW ADDING A SOUND BOOTH, UM, AND BY SOUND BOOTH, THIS IS, UH, IT'S NOT ENTIRELY SOUNDPROOF AS WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE, IF THEY, IF, YOU KNOW, FIRE ALARM GOES OFF, THEY, THEY'RE ABLE TO HEAR IT AND GET OUTTA THE BUILDING.

UM, THIS WILL BE A, UH, UH, SOUND DAMPENED SPACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND DO THINGS LIKE ORAL HISTORY AND, UM, UH, LEARNING HOW TO DO PODCASTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, THAT'LL BE LOCATED IN, UH, THE BACK OF THE ADULT, UH, THE ADULT SIDE.

WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THAT WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.

UM, AND AS ALSO PART OF THE GRANT, UH, AS THIS WOULD ALSO BE A LOT MORE WORKLOADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING A ME MAKERSPACE AND MEMORY LAB COORDINATOR, WHICH INFORMATION IS ON OUR WEBSITE.

UM, SO WE'RE HOPING TO DO A SOFT OPENING DURING OUR SAM ECON EVENT.

THAT'S GONNA BE SEPTEMBER 21ST.

UH, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING JUST IN CASE PEOPLE CAN'T GET OUT THAT DAY OF HAVING ANOTHER KIND OF SOFT OPENING WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND JUST KIND OF GET A FEEL FOR WHAT WE'LL HAVE GOING ON.

AND BY OCTOBER 7TH, WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE OUR, OUR RIBBON COMING.

SO WE WOULD LOVE IT IF YOU, UH, IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN COMING IN FOR A TOUR FOR THAT.

UM, AS, UH, OR BEFORE OR DURING THE SOFT OPENING OR AT ANY TIME, WE'D LOVE TO SHOW YOU GUYS WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON.

I THINK THAT SOUND BOOTH IS GONNA BE AMAZING.

I, I SAID I WISH I HAD, UM, THAT IT WAS AVAILABLE FOR MY, A LOT OF MY RELATIVES, BUT ESPECIALLY MY GRANNY, UH, TO BE ABLE TO HEAR THEIR VOICE AND TO SEE THEM.

THAT'S SOMETHING YOU JUST CAN'T GET ONCE THEY'RE GONE.

EXACTLY, YEAH.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE, THE, THE GOALS FOR THE PROGRAM IS TO REALLY, UH, SHOWCASE THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT AND, AND GIVING, ALLOWING PEOPLE TO HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO IT.

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LIKE WE'LL HAVE, UM, MICROPHONES FOR, FOR CHECKOUT FOR THAT SPACE.

UH, WE'LL HAVE PEOPLE TO SHOW YOU HOW TO DO AN INTERVIEW, UH, AS WELL AS WE'RE HOPING TO, UH, CREATE A, UH, DATABASE FOR LOCAL HISTORY.

SO IF, UH, CREATING INITIATIVES FOR ORAL HISTORY FOR PROJECTS LIKE, UM, UH, WE HAD THE DESEGREGATIONS OF THE SCHOOLS, WE'VE HAD AFEC, UH, CLOSING DOWN.

THESE ARE BIG HISTORIC EVENTS IN THE AREA AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE AS PEOPLE ARE GETTING OLDER, THOSE MEMORIES ARE BEING SAVED.

UM, MOST PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE WE'RE THE DEPOSITORY FOR THE OLD AFEC DOCUMENTS.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE WANNA HOPE TO BE ABLE TO DIGITIZE AND MAKE A ACCESSIBLE, EASILY ACCESSIBLE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

UM, AND OF COURSE, MAKING THOSE CONNECTIONS WITH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS.

I KNOW THEY HAVE STUFF THAT THEY MAY WANNA HAVE DIGITIZED OR JUST PARTNER UP TO DO THESE INITIATIVES.

SO, AND OH, OH, THAT WAS THE LAST SLIDE.

SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

UM, WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAVE ONE.

JUST SAY, UM, SHOULD HAVE ASKED IT EARLIER.

WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BRAIN FUSE AND THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, LIKE THE JOB NOW, FOR EXAMPLE MM-HMM.

, UH, DO YOU, UH, CAN THEY USE YOUR ACCESS THOSE, UH, FROM HOME WITH THEIR LIBRARY CARD OR THEY NEED TO COME IN? YES.

YEAH, THE, UM, THE ONLY REAL ONE CURRENTLY THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE IN THE BUILDING FOR IS, UH, THE ANCESTRY.COM, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS ACCESSIBLE ONLINE FROM HOME.

YOU JUST GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND, UH, THE LINK WILL TAKE YOU THERE.

MM-HMM.

THEY'LL JUST ASK YOU FOR YOUR LIBRARY CARD INFORMATION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO, SO YOU, YOU'D SAID THAT YOU, YOU, UH, CAME ON BOARD IN FEBRUARY? YES.

WHAT, WHAT'S A, A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR BACKGROUND? UM, SURE.

SO, UM, I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN WITH THE LIBRARY SINCE 2015.

I STARTED OUT ACTUALLY PART-TIME IN THE CIRCULATION DEPARTMENT.

UM, AND THEN I MOVED OVER INTO ADULT REFERENCE.

UH, AND THEN I ENDED UP GETTING MY, UH, MASTER'S IN LIBRARY SCIENCE, UH, WHILE I WAS STILL WORKING AT THE LIBRARY, UH, THAT WAS WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS.

AND THEN AFTER I FINISHED WITH THAT, I ENDED UP BECOMING THE ADULT REFERENCE MANAGER.

AND THEN, UH, YEP, THIS, THIS PAST FEBRUARY I ENDED UP BECOMING DIRECTOR.

UM, I LOVE THE LIBRARY.

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS COMMUNITY.

UM, I LOVE BEING ABLE TO, UH, SEE THE, THE, THE LIBRARY GROW AND ADAPT AND, AND OFFER AS MANY RESOURCES AND SERVICES TO THE, THE COMMUNITY AS IT CAN.

SO I'M CURIOUS, IS THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS MM-HMM.

, IS THAT PART OF THE, UM, TEXAS A AND M GROUP? YOU KNOW WHAT, GOOD QUESTION.

I'M ACTUALLY NOT SURE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I FOUND OUT WHERE I GOT MY MASTER'S AT IT, IT WAS, IT, THAT WAS BACK IN THE LATE EIGHTIES AND IN THE MID NINETIES A AND M BOUGHT UP.

OH.

AND SEE I USED TO GIVE A, A FELLOW, UH, UH, FRIEND OF MINE A HARD TIME BECAUSE HE WAS A, UH, UH, TEXAS A AND M AGGIE.

AND THEN I LOOKED AT HIM, I SAID, WELL, I GUESS I'M AN AGGIE NOW.

.

, YEAH.

I'M ACTUALLY NOT SURE, BUT, UM, ONE OF THESE DAYS I'M, I, I DID MINE ONLINE, BUT I ACTUALLY WANNA GET DOWN THERE AND ACTUALLY VISIT THE, UH, UM, THE CAMPUSES AT ONE POINT.

BUT YEAH, IT WAS A GOOD SCHOOL.

I LOVED IT.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, WELL, I, I HAVE LEARNED A LOT.

I HAD NO IDEA YOU GUYS DID THOSE.

I, I THOUGHT YOU BASICALLY WENT IN AND CHECKED OUT A BOOK AND WENT HOME, READ IT.

OH YEAH.

NO, WE'RE LIKE, WAIT, OF COURSE WE, I DID KNOW THAT YOU COULD DO THE VIDEOS FROM WHEN MY KIDS WERE SMALLER, BUT ALL THIS OTHER, THAT'S JUST AMAZING.

WELL, AND THAT'S JUST A SNAPSHOT.

WE HAVE SO MANY OTHER SERVICES WE OFFER TOO, SO IT'S, IT'S HARD TO, TO IF I, I COULD PROBABLY ANOTHER TWO HOURS JUST LISTEN TO ALL THE OTHER SERVICES THAT WE HAVE.

SO.

WELL APPRECIATE THIS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH.

SO NOW THAT MY COMPUTER'S CUT OFF ON ME, UM, LET'S SEE, DID WE WANNA GO WITH MR. LIN ON INSTEAD OF, OR DOES, UM, MS. MEADOWS WANNA DO THE DRUG EXCHANGE? MR. LINZ? ALRIGHT,

[D. Text Amendment Discussion - Z2024-06-01 - Definition of Fairground - Warren County Planning Staff]

SO WE'LL GO WITH THE TEXT AMENDMENT DISCUSSION OF DEFINITION OF FAIRGROUND.

THAT'S PART OF WINGING IT ON, UH, SWITCHING THINGS AROUND.

IT'S NOT THERE, BUT THAT'S ME, .

WE'LL LET THEM GET THIS, UH, POWERPOINT PULLED UP.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE GOT TWO, UH, TEXT AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WILL BE BEFORE YOU HERE SHORTLY.

THOUGHT IT'D BE GOOD TO GET IT ON A WORK

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SESSION TO GET OUT AHEAD OF ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS YOU MAY HAVE GOING INTO IT.

UH, SO FIRST TONIGHT WE'VE GOT THE, UM, DEFINITION OF FAIRGROUND.

UH, SO THIS IS A STAFF GENERATED TEXT AMENDMENT.

SO, UH, NOBODY APPLIED FOR THIS.

UM, AND THIS COMES FROM YEARS OF CONFUSION ABOUT, UH, WHAT'S ALLOWED ON THE FAIRGROUND.

UH, AND SO ON OUR END, UH, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT THAT CONFUSION IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A DEFINITION OF A FAIR GROUND.

AND SO NO REAL GUIDELINES TO SAY YES OR NO, THAT'S A FAIR GROUND OR, YOU KNOW, THOSE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES.

UH, SO WE THINK THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THAT IS TO ADD A DEFINITION.

UH, SO TO CLARIFY, THIS ISN'T REALLY GIVING THEM ADDITIONAL PERMISSIONS AT THE FAIR GROUND IS JUST TO COVER WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING THERE.

UM, AND JUST TO KIND OF COVER THEM LEGALLY SPEAKING FOR INTERPRETATION PURPOSES MOVING FORWARD.

UM, SO THE BULK OF IT IS JUST THE DEFINITION.

UH, AND IT'S BASICALLY A LIST OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED ON A FAIR GROUND, UH, WHICH IS GONNA INCLUDE FAIRES FESTIVALS, CIRCUSES, CARNIVALS, EXHIBITIONS, CONCERTS, RODEOS, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR FLEA MARKETS, AUCTIONS, UM, PRIVATE AND COMMUNITY EVENTS, UH, INCLUDING, UH, ACTIVITIES, UH, WOULD BE EQUIPMENT STAGING, CAMPING TENTS, RECREATIONAL VEHICLES, AGRICULTURAL, EQUESTRIAN RELATED ACTIVITIES, MOBILE FOOD ESTABLISHMENT GAMES RIDES, MOTOR MOTOR SPORTS, AND OTHER RELATED RECREATIONAL ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITIES, UH, PERMITTED AS ACCESSORY, UH, TO AN EVENT ON THE, UH, FAIRGROUND.

UH, AND ALL OF THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO FESTIVAL PERMITS REQUIREMENTS.

SO YOU'LL STILL SEE THE, THE FESTIVAL PERMITS.

UM, SO REALLY WE, WE MET WITH, UH, WARREN COUNTY FAIRGROUND STAFF AND WENT OVER EXACTLY WHAT ALL THEY DO THERE, AND HAVE DONE THERE HISTORICALLY.

AND, UH, WE FIND THAT THIS DEFINITION KIND OF CAPTURES EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO THERE.

UH, THE ONLY OTHER CHANGE TO THE CODE IS, UH, RELATED TO THE LISTED USES.

RIGHT NOW, UH, FAIRGROUND IS ALLOWED BY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

AND FOR SOME REASON, NON-COMMERCIAL FAIRGROUND IS PERMITTED BY WRIGHT IN THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.

OUR ONLY RECOMMENDED CHANGE IS THAT WE GET RID OF THE BUYRIGHT NON-COMMERCIAL FAIRGROUND, UH, USE IN AGRICULTURAL AND MAKE IT ALSO BY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

UM, SO IT'D BE TREATED THE SAME WAY.

SO THAT'S IT FOR FAIRGROUNDS.

SO PRETTY SIMPLE KIND OF COVERING, UH, THINGS THAT AREN'T THERE NOW.

UM, BUT I'LL PAUSE AND ASK IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE OTHER ONE.

I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION.

MM-HMM, .

SO, UM, LOOKING AT THE LIST OF ACTIVITIES ON THE, THE, UH, SLIDE RIGHT THERE WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT CIRCUSES, I THINK CONCERTS, UH, RODEOS, FLEA MARKETS, ET CETERA, TO HAVE ONE OF THOSE ACTIVITIES, WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED AT OTHER PROPERTY TYPES OR ONLY AT A FAIRGROUND? UM, UM, SO IT DEPENDS.

UH, SO IF, UH, FOR INSTANCE MOTORSPORT, I'LL TAKE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE.

YEAH.

IF THAT'S ALL THEY WERE DOING THERE, WE WOULD PROBABLY DEEM IT A COMMERCIAL OUTDOOR RECREATION OPERATION.

OKAY.

IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE OVERALL SCOPE OF THE LAND USE IS.

UM, BUT A FAIR GROUND WOULD BE PERMITTED TO HAVE THESE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES.

OKAY.

LIKE HOW ABOUT TWO SPECIFIC EXAMPLES? ONE IS, UM, I THINK AROUND 4TH OF JULY THEY HAVE, UM, A LITTLE CARNIVAL WITH THE RIDES ACROSS FROM BING STADIUM.

WOULD THAT LITTLE SLIVER OF LAND HAVE TO BE DEFINED AS A FAIR GROUND IF THIS PASSES? SO IT'S WITHIN THE TOWN LIMITS.

SO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN ZONING.

IT WOULD BE GOOD POINT BE, UH, SEPARATE.

UM, BUT SUCH AN EVENT WOULD BE PERMITTED ON THE FAIR GROUND.

THEY'D NEED A FESTIVAL PERMIT SINCE THEY'RE CHARGING A FEE AND THERE'D BE AMPLIFIED MUSIC.

OKAY.

AND THEN ANOTHER EXAMPLE WOULD BE, UM, THE MUSIC FESTIVAL THAT'S, UH, LABOR DAY OUT ON, UH, THE SKYLINE RANCH, UH, CAMPGROUND.

MM-HMM.

WOULD THEY NEED TO BE, WOULD THEY NEED TO BECOME A FAIRGROUND OR, OR OTHERWISE GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AFTER THIS HAPPENS? NO.

UM, SO CERTAIN, UH, USES, UH, WE WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE CERTAIN EVENTS.

UH, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE RURAL EVENTS FACILITY, UH, LAND USE.

THEY ARE A RESORT, UH, KIND OF CAMPGROUND, UH, COMBINATION.

OKAY.

AND SO, UH, A LOT OF, UH, I'D SAY THERE ARE A FEW COMMERCIAL USES WHERE EVENTS WOULD BE ACCESSORY TO THE USE.

UH, FOR THAT SPECIFICALLY THEY'RE AT CAMPGROUND AND THEY GET A FESTIVAL PERMIT TO HOLD AN EVENT THERE EVERY YEAR.

OKAY.

SO WHAT WAS THE NEXUS FOR THIS? UM, SO FOR, IT'S, IT'S BEEN YEARS OF, UH, ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO THIS HERE? UM, I DON'T KNOW HA HAVE YOU BEEN DOING IT THERE? , YOU KNOW, JUST THAT KIND OF BACK AND FORTH WHERE, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO REFER TO SOMETHING AND BE LIKE, YES, YOU CAN DO THAT BECAUSE, UH, ENTERTAINMENT ACTI OR LET'S SEE, PRIVATE, UH, EVENTS ARE ALLOWED.

SO IF SOMEONE WANTS TO HAVE A WEDDING THERE, UH, WHERE IT'S INVITATION ONLY, IT'S CAPTURED BY THE DEFINITION.

AND DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PARCELS OTHER THAN THE FAIRGROUND THAT ARE CURRENTLY DEFINED AS FAIRGROUNDS? SO THERE, THE FAIRGROUND'S, THE ONLY, UH, PROPERTY THAT HAS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A FAIRGROUND, UH, AT THIS TIME, UH, IT MOVING FORWARD, IF SOMEONE HAD AN AGRICULTURAL COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, THEY COULD APPLY FOR A CONDITIONAL

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USE PERMIT FOR A FAIR GROUND.

IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME DEFINITION IF ADOPTED.

OKAY, THANKS.

OKAY.

WITH THAT IN MIND, WOULD SAY SOMEONE HAD WANTED TO HAVE LIKE A CHRISTMAS MARKET, WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED, UH, OR A CHRISTMAS MARKET FESTIVAL? WOULD THAT FALL UNDER FAIRS OR WOULD THAT BE LIKE THE APPALOOSA? IT'S, YEAH, IT WOULD DEPEND, UH, IF THE TYPE OF USE THAT'S GOING ON THERE, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, A COMMUNITY CENTER WOULD PROBABLY HAVE THAT KIND OF EVENT.

I WOULD SAY IT WOULD NEED TO BE CLASSIFIED AS, UH, AN ACCESSORY USE TO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON THERE.

SO LIKE A COMMUNITY CENTER FOR EXAMPLE, COULD HAVE EVENTS WHERE EVENTS FACILITY COULD HAVE AN EVENT, A COMMERCIAL CAMPGROUND, A HOTEL EVEN, UH, MIGHT HAVE THAT FORM OF, UH, EVENT.

UM, BUT YEAH, IF SOMEONE'S TRYING TO DO THAT, I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SAY YOU NEED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A FAIRGROUND UNLESS THEY WERE TRYING TO RUN A FAIR GROUND.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

[E. Text Amendment Discussion - Z2024-05-02 - Rural Resort Center - Jennifer Wynn]

ARE YOU READY TO GO INTO RURAL RESORT CENTER? I SURE AM.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL GIVE IT AN EIGHT MINUTE HEAD START.

.

ALL RIGHT.

SO JUMPING INTO THE NEXT TEXT AMENDMENT.

UH, WE HAVE RURAL RESORT CENTERS.

SO THIS ONE WAS APPLIED FOR, UM, SO STAFF, UH, WORKED WITH, UH, THE APPLICANT'S LEGAL COUNSEL TO DRAFT THESE REGULATIONS.

THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH A FEW CHANGES.

UM, BUT THIS WAS, UH, BY APPLICATION, SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE JUST BRINGING FORWARD.

UM, SO FOR STARTERS, WE GOT A NEW USE, WE GOTTA HAVE A DEFINITION.

UM, SO IT IS, UH, A PRETTY, UH, BROAD DEFINITION THAT KIND OF COVERS, UH, HOSPITALITY, RECREATIONAL, UH, TYPE USES.

UM, SO FOR THE MOST PART YOU'RE LOOKING AT A HOSPITALITY USE SIMILAR TO A HOTEL THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME OTHER, UH, RECREATIONAL TYPE USES.

SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE HERE IS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING THIS FOR THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT VERSUS, UH, THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WHERE A HOTEL WOULD BE BY.

RIGHT.

UM, BUT YEAH, THE DEFINITION, UH, COVERS THE HOSPITALITY RECREATIONAL PURPOSES, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE TEMPORARY LODGING, MEALS, ENTERTAINMENT, AND RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES, UH, WITH A FEW OF THOSE LISTED THERE, UH, WITH A REFERENCE TO THE SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS WE'RE PROPOSING.

BUT I DID WANNA BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE 15 ACRES REFERENCED, UH, IN THE DEFINITION.

UM, SO WITH THIS BEING PART OF THE DEFINITION, THAT DOES MEAN YOU DO NEED 15 ACRES TO EVEN APPLY FOR THIS USE.

THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD CAN WAIVE.

IF WE PUT IT HERE, IF YOU WANT IT TO BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE WAIVED, WE COULD EASILY MOVE IT TO THE SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS.

AND, UH, YOU COULD LOOK AT THAT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS IF THE PARCEL'S UNDER 15 ACRES.

UM, BUT OUR IDEA WAS TO SET AN ABSOLUTE MINIMUM OF 15 ACRES AND, UH, GO FROM THERE .

UM, SO, SO WHAT WOULD YOUR EVENT CENTERS LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU, YOU WERE GONNA HAVE A WEDDING RECEPTION AND, UH, 'CAUSE I, I KNOW, UH, MY DAUGHTER WAS LOOKING AT A PLACE OVER BY WHERE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE APPALOOSA AND I, I GUESS THAT SOMEBODY BUILT A REALLY NICE RECEPTION AREA THERE AND I WAS JUST KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO DOES THAT FALL IN THIS OR IS THAT SOMETHING ELSE? UM, SO YEAH, I MEAN, WITH LAND USE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME OVERLAP.

UH, I WOULD SAY A RURAL EVENTS FACILITY.

A LOT OF WHAT'S ALLOWED FOR THAT IS VERY SIMILAR TO THIS.

I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS A MORE INTENSE USE.

IT ALLOWS FOR MORE LODGING UNITS AND NO TIE TO AN ACTUAL EVENT.

LIKE I SAID, IT BASICALLY OPERATES AS A HOTEL AND HAS SOME OUTDOOR RECREATION STUFF.

MAYBE, UH, UH, FOOD, UH, MEALS, UH, SET UP FOR, FOR, UH, PATRONS THAT ARE, UH, STAYING THERE AT THE RESORT.

UM, BUT YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT UH, A RURAL RESORT CENTER WOULD PROBABLY HAVE, UH, BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME, SOME EVENTS, UH, THERE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S RELATED TO, UH, SOME SORT OF RECREATION.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

WHERE DID THE, IF I COULD ASK, WHERE DID THE 10 15 ACRES COME FROM? UM, WELL, SO THE, WHAT WE HAD TO GO ON HERE, WE HAVE A 10 ACRE MINIMUM FOR CAMPGROUNDS.

UH, WE HAVE A 20 ACRE MINIMUM FOR ROYAL EVENTS, FACILITIES, UH, WE ARE PROPOSING 15 FOR THIS, PARTIALLY BECAUSE THE INTENDED, UH, PROPERTY THAT THIS, THIS APPLICANT WILL PURSUE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR IF THIS TAX AMENDMENT IS APPROVED, IS 18 ACRES.

SO THAT WE COULDN'T, WE COULDN'T GO WITH 20 'CAUSE THEY WOULDN'T BE APPROVED FOR IT .

UM, SO YEAH, THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS THE MINIMUM THAT WE AGREED ON.

UM, ANY, IF THEY HAD HAD, IF THEY HAD A 12 ACRE PARCEL, WOULD WE, WOULD WE SET THE MINIMUM AT 10? THEY WOULD CERTAINLY APPLY FOR IT.

I WOULD IMAGINE.

I MEAN, I MEAN, I'M JUST, I I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S, WITH THE 15 IS, WAS THERE ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT THEY HAVE INVOLVED IN TERMS? YEAH, I MEAN WE, WE, UH,

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LOOKED AT THE 10 ACRE MINIMUM FOR CAMPGROUND, 20 ACRE FOR ROLE EVENTS FACILITY.

UH, YOU KNOW, OUR KIND OF INITIAL THOUGHT WAS 20 ACRE MINIMUM WOULD PROBABLY BE GOOD, MATCH IT WITH THAT ROLE EVENTS FACILITY, BUT THAT WOULDN'T WORK FOR THE APPLICANT.

SO THAT IS A, A MAJOR DIFFERENCE FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT'S COMING FROM STAFF VERSUS THE APPLICANT.

SOMETIMES THEY HAVE CONSTRAINTS TO WHICH, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN APPLY FOR THESE THINGS.

UM, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SPEND THE MONEY TO DO A TEXT AMENDMENT IF THEY KNOW UPFRONT THAT THEY'RE NOT EVEN GONNA BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

SO YOU CAN TOUCH A LITTLE BIT MORE ON LOT SIZE LATER.

'CAUSE THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS WITH THAT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL.

UM, SO OTHER CHANGES, UH, THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO HAVE, UH, UH, UH, SMALL KITCHEN FACILITIES IN THE LODGING UNITS.

AND SO, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING A MINOR CHANGE TO THE LODGING UNIT DEFINITION.

SO THIS IS THE DEFINITION WE HAVE IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW.

AND IT WOULD JUST CUT OFF THAT LAST, UH, PART THERE, UH, THAT SAYS THAT A LODGING UNIT DOES NOT HAVE ANY PERMANENT KITCHEN OR LAUNDRY FACILITIES.

UM, SO KIND OF A MI MINOR CHANGE, UH, JUST ALLOWS FOR A LODGING UNIT TO HAVE A KITCHEN OR LAUNDRY FACILITIES.

UH, AND THEN, UM, DID NOT COVER THIS IN THE SLIDE SHOW, BUT WE ARE JUST PROPOSING THIS TO BE, UH, BY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT.

UM, AND WITH, UH, SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS.

UH, SO FROM THE TOP WE'VE GOT A REQUIREMENT FOR DIRECT FRONTAGE AND ACCESS TO A STATE MAINTAINED ROAD.

THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH VDOT TO GET A COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE APPROVED.

UH, THERE'S A ILLUSTRATIVE DEVELOPMENT PLAN REQUIREMENTS, SO SIMILAR TO A SITE PLAN.

UM, AND THAT SPECIFIES WHICH DETAILS NEED TO BE INCLUDED ON THE PLAN.

UH, WE'VE GOT A COVERALL GENERAL REQUIREMENT FOR APPROVAL OF ALL FACILITIES BY BUILDING INSPECTIONS, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THE OFFICE OF DRINKING WATER, AND AN OVERALL, UH, A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACK REQUIREMENT FOR ANY BUILDINGS FROM NEIGHBORING PROPERTY LINES.

WE'VE GOT PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

UH, SO WE'VE GOT TWO SPACES PER LODGING UNIT PLUS ONE SPACE PER STAFF MEMBER, UH, WITH A, A CATCH ALL THAT SAYS, UH, WITH ANY ADDITIONAL PARKING, UH, WOULD BE REQUIRED UPON REVIEW OF THE ILLUSTRATIVE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

AND SO THIS IS, UH, DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE FLEXIBILITY OF, OF DIFFERENT AC UH, RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES THAT MIGHT, UH, OCCUR AT A A, A RURAL RESORT CENTER.

UM, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'D NEED A DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF PARKING FOR A, A POOL AREA THAN YOU WOULD A WALKING TRAIL.

UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD LOOK AT AND WE WOULD REVIEW THAT AGAINST OUR EXISTING OFF STREET PARKING.

UH, I KNOW WE HAVE COMMERCIAL RECREATION AS A USE IN THERE, SO THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE MY GO-TO FOR DETERMINING PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

UM, AND UH, ALSO FOR HEALTH DEPARTMENT, MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY IS GONNA BE BASED ON WHAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT APPROVES, AND THE BOARD WILL ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO FURTHER LIMIT THAT OCCUPANCY BY PLACING A CONDITION.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE A COVERALL ANNUAL COMPLIANCE REVIEW REQUIREMENTS, UH, AND THEN GETTING INTO THE LODGING UNITS, UH, STANDARDS, WE'VE GOT DENSITY STANDARDS, UH, WHICH ALLOW A CERTAIN NUMBER OF LODGING UNITS BY ACREAGE.

UM, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THE PLANNING COMMISSION LOOKED AT AND, AND SIMPLIFIED A LITTLE BIT.

IT WAS INITIALLY 50 AND A HUNDRED.

UM, SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT LOTS 15 TO 30 ACRES IN SIZE BEING ALLOWED UP TO 25 LO LODGING UNITS WITH, UH, LOTS 30 ACRES OR LARGER, UH, UP TO 50 LODGING UNITS.

UH, WE'RE REQUIRING, UH, 20 FEET OF SEPARATION BETWEEN THE LODGING UNITS.

AND AGAIN, THAT A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACK, UH, FROM ALL THE PROPERTY LINES DENSITY STANDARDS, THIS 250 TO A THOUSAND, OR I'M SORRY, DESIGN STANDARDS, THE 252,000 SQUARE FOOT SIZE, UH, FOR THE LODGING UNITS IS COPIED AND PASTED FROM OUR RURAL, UH, EVENTS FACILITY, LODGING UNITS SECTION.

SO VERY WORKS THE EXACT SAME WAY.

IF WHATEVER THEY'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING IN THERE DOESN'T MEET OR FALL WITHIN THAT, THEN THEY CAN, UH, REQUEST, UH, A WAIVER THROUGH, THROUGH YOU ALL, UH, TO ALLOW EITHER A SMALLER OR OR BIGGER SIZE.

JUST ABOUT DONE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UM, SO JUMPING IN, SO JUST RUNNING THROUGH IT, I KNOW YOU GUYS GOT A CLOSED SESSION.

UM, UH, SO WE'VE GOT A RESTRICTION ON ACTIVITIES AS WELL.

SO PERMANENT USAGE OF, OF LODGING UNITS AS, AS A RESIDENCE.

WE'VE GOT A 30 DAY TIME LIMIT ON THOSE RENTAL CONTRACTS.

BASICALLY, IF YOU'RE THERE MORE THAN 30 DAYS, WE'RE GONNA SAY YOU'RE USING YOUR PERMANENTLY AND THAT'S A VIOLATION.

UH, AGAIN, THE OCCUPANTS PER LODGING UNIT'S GONNA BE DETERMINED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

UH, THEY WILL NEED TO, ANY OPERATOR WOULD NEED TO REGISTER FOR TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX ACCOUNTS AND, UH, JUST A RESTRICTION ON CAMPING AND RECREATIONAL VEHICLES UNLESS OTHERWISE APPROVED FOR CAMPGROUNDS.

AND, UH, JUST, UH, BRIEFLY COVERING WHAT, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS

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CHANGES WERE.

SO YEAH, THEY DEFINITELY HAD CONCERNS WITH, UH, THE 15 ACRE PARCELS AND THEM HAVING ALL THESE LODGING UNITS, RECREATIONAL AREAS, AND ALSO THE POSSIBILITY OF A RESTAURANT.

SO I THINK THEY WERE MOSTLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT SMALLER LOT SIZE WITH THE KIND OF TRAFFIC THEY WOULD SEE FROM A PERMANENT RESTAURANT FACILITY.

THAT IS WHAT THEY IDENTIFIED.

AND SO, UH, THE APPLICANT IS NOT LOOKING TO DO A PERMANENT RESTAURANT FACILITY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD EXPECT FOR A RESORT.

UH, AND SO THEY AGREED THAT FOR 15 TO 30 ACRES IN SIZE FOR THE PARCEL, THERE WOULD BE A RESTRICTION ON RESTAURANT FACILITIES, PERMANENT RESTAURANT FACILITIES.

UH, AND BASICALLY THAT MEANS YOU NEED 30 ACRES TO HAVE A RESTAURANT ON, ON A RESORT.

UH, THAT'S HOW, HOW WE WORKED THAT OUT, UM, THAT'S WHAT THEY ASKED FOR.

SO WE, WE ADDED A SUBSECTION C UH, AND ALSO INCLUDED THE ABILITY OF THE BOARD TO RESTRICT PERMANENT RESTAURANT FACILITIES.

ADDITIONALLY, ON PARCELS OVER 30 ACRES IN SIZE, IF YOU THINK THAT'S NECESSARY.

UM, SO FOR SUBSECTION C, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 30 ACRE MINIMUM FOR PERMANENT RESTAURANT FACILITIES.

UH, ADDITIONAL PARKING REQUIRED, IT WOULD BE WHATEVER'S REQUIRED FOR A RESTAURANT BY, UH, THAT CODE SECTION WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO WHAT IS ALREADY REQUIRED FOR IT.

AND THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY WOULD NEED TO BE APPROVED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S GONNA BE OVERALL SO QUICK, UH, SPRINT THROUGH THE SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS.

AND YOU GUYS GOTTA CLOSE SESSION TO GET TO, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE WE GOTTA LOOK AT THIS BEFORE WE GOT TO PUBLIC HEARING.

WE, WE CAN'T START BEFORE SEVEN, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD.

UM, IT'S A LOT TO THINK ABOUT THERE BECAUSE THAT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE, AS THE OLD SAYING, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT FIVE GALLONS IN A TWO GALLON BUCKET.

UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE A LOT TO THINK ABOUT HERE.

QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.

OR, UM, I'LL JUST SAY B BACKING UP TO THE, TO THE FAIRGROUND ONE, I'M NERVOUS ABOUT, UH, TAKING AWAY NON-COMMERCIAL BY RIGHT.

UNLESS WE REALLY HAVE GOOD LANGUAGE THAT ALLOWS, UM, LIKE SAY I SAY I'VE GOT A SMALL FARM AND I WANT TO HOST A FUNDRAISER FOR MY KIDS' SCHOOL OR FOR, UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND MAYBE SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE MENTIONED HERE WILL BE INVOLVED, LIKE BRINGING SOME BOUNCY HOUSES OR WHATEVER.

I DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT LEGALLY.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT MM-HMM.

SHOOTING OUR FOOT ON YEAH.

THAT SPECIFIC EXAMPLE.

I WOULD NOT DETERMINE TO BE A FAIRGROUND .

UM, THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE KIND OF LIKE A PRIVATE, UH, FUNDRAISER EVENT OR SOMETHING.

YEAH.

UM, SO JUST THE, THE LANGUAGE IN HERE DOES SAY PRIVATE AND COMMUNITY EVENTS.

MM-HMM.

.

AND SO TO ME THAT'S A PRETTY WIDE OPEN TO INTERPRETATION PHRASE.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE TIGHTEN THAT UP.

I THINK SO.

SO YEAH, I WOULD SAY THE, UH, THE DEFINITION IS TO INCLUDE WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN A FAIR GROUND.

NOT TO SAY THAT A FAIR GROUND IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE DOING THIS ONE THING, IT'S FAIR GROUND, YOU NEED A FAIR GROUND.

OKAY.

JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YEAH, I WOULD SAY IT'S MORE SO TO COVER WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING THERE.

UM, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, TO CHANGE , UH, HOW WE ENFORCE THIS THING.

IT'S, IT'S JUST TO CLEAR THINGS UP FOR US.

BUT WITH THAT IN MIND, THE FAIRGROUND CAME TO US, UM, WHAT, A YEAR OR SO AGO, ASKING TO BE ABLE TO PARK, UM, YES.

TRACTOR TRAILERS THERE AND THEY WERE GONNA CHARGE A FEE THAT WOULD PRECLUDE THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO DO THAT, WOULDN'T IT? SO A LITTLE, IT'S, UH, GETTING INTO THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UH, THAT PARCEL IS ACTUALLY, UH, A SEPARATE PROPERTY FROM THE FAIRGROUND.

THE FAIRGROUND ASSOCIATION OWNS THAT OTHER PROPERTY.

UM, BUT THEY AT THIS TIME USE IT FOR OVERFLOW PARKING.

UH, SO TECHNICALLY IT IS NOT PART OF THE CUP PROPERTY FOR A FAIRGROUND.

UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THEY ACQUIRED AFTER THEY'D BEEN IN OPERATION FOR YEARS.

I THINK THEY GOT IT FROM WALKER BREW.

OKAY.

SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE SPLITTING A HAIR, BUT, OKAY.

UM, BUT I DID, I DID WANT, 'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM IF IT, IF IT WAS PART OF THE CU CURRENT CUP.

SO, WELL, I WOULD ALSO SAY YOU CAN GET MULTIPLE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR MULTIPLE THINGS FOR THE SAME PROPERTY.

UM, SO YOU KNOW, IF DURING ONE SEASON YOU'RE USING IT AS MOTOR FREIGHT TERMINAL, UH, FOR OVERFLOW PARKING FOR FERGUSON OR, OR WHOEVER UP THERE, UM, THEN THAT'S ONE THING YOU GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THAT WHILE STILL HAVING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE FAIRGROUND.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU.

A LOT OF FOOD FOR THOUGHT HERE BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS, BUT THANK YOU.

RIGHT.

SO I KNOW MR. HAM IS HERE.

UM, COULD I, I KIND OF FEEL BAD ABOUT MAKING PEOPLE WAIT

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'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE CLOSED SESSION'S GONNA BE.

SO WE'VE GOT THREE ITEMS HERE.

DO WE DO THOSE NOW OR AFTER? I THINK THEY WOULD BE LONGER THAN THE CLOSED SESSION, MA'AM.

OKAY.

RIGHTY THEN.

UM, AND LIBRARY FOLKS, YOU ARE WELCOME TO STAY, BUT IF YOU WANNA EXIT AND DIDN'T WANNA BE RUDE ABOUT DOING IT, YOU'RE WELCOME TO LEAVE AND, UH, FORMER,

[Additional Item]

SOMEBODY WANNA READ THE CLOSED SESSIONS MOTION, I MOVE THE BOARD ENTER INTO A CLOSED MEETING UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 2.2 3 7 1, 1, A SEVEN, AND A EIGHT FOR CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL PERTAINING TO ACTUAL OR PROBABLE LITIGATION AND THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL AND THE WARREN COUNTY OF WARREN, VIRGINIA, THE EDA, THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL, THE EDA VERSUS JENNIFER MCDONALD, ETAL, TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL VERSUS EDA ETAL, THE EDA VERSUS TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL.

OTHER POTENTIAL CLAIMS AND LITIGATION RELATING TO OTHER POSSIBLE LIABILITIES OF THE EDA, THE RECOVER OF EDA FUNDS AND ASSETS, THE OUTSTANDING INDEBTEDNESS OF THE EDA BANK ACTIONS AND POTENTIAL ACTIONS RELATED TO THE SAME, THE FORBEARANCE AND SUPPORT AGREEMENTS AND MATTERS RELATED TO THE PURCHASE OPTION AGREEMENT WITH A PV CARDINAL ENERGY.

LLC.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

ROLL CALL.

MR. HENDERSON.

DR.

JAMISON AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE.

MR. BUTLER? AYE.

MR. SANDMEYER? AYE.

ALL RIGHT, WE WILL ADJOURN TO YES SIR.

IF YOU WILL READ US OUT OF CLOSED SESSION, I'D APPRECIATE IT.

I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF THAT, THE BOARD CERTIFIES TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER SECTIONS 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1, A SEVEN, AND EIGHT OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, AND ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVENED, WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING BY THE PUBLIC BODY.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND ROLL CALL MR. HENDERSON.

DR.

JAMESON AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE.

MR. BUTLER? AYE.

MR. SANDMEYER? AYE.

ALRIGHT, WE ARE AT A CLOSED SESSION AND AYE.

THANK YOU SIR.

NEXT

[C. Discussion - Changes to Virginia EMS Drug Box Exchange Program]

IS, UM, CHANGES TO THE VIRGINIA EMS DRUG BOX EXCHANGE PROGRAM.

MS. MEADOWS AND CHIEF, THANK YOU.

SO I AM NOT SURE HOW FAMILIAR YOU ARE WITH THE DRUG BOX EXCHANGE.

I THINK TWO OF YOU ARE SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR.

UM, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WHOLE BOARD KIND OF KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON.

UM, SO ABOUT 11 YEARS AGO, THE STATE SENT DOWN A MANDATE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE CHANGING DRUG BOXES, UM, AND HOW WE UTILIZE THEM WITH EMS. SO CURRENTLY ALL OF OUR AMBULANCES GET THEIR MEDICATIONS FROM VALLEY HEALTH.

AND SO WHEN THEY'RE ADMINISTERED, WHEN WE GO TO THE HOSPITAL, THEY BASICALLY REPLENISH WHAT WAS USED.

UM, AND THEN VALLEY HEALTH BILLS THE PATIENT AS PART OF THEIR BILLING PROCESS.

UM, SO WITH THE NEW MANDATES, IT'S BASICALLY TO IMPLEMENT MORE TRACKING AND CONTROL OF THE MEDICATIONS FROM START TO FINISH.

UM, SO THEY'RE TAKING IT AWAY FROM THE HOSPITALS AND PUTTING IT ON THE EMS PROVIDER.

UM, SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS HOW WE ARE MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE NOVEMBER 27TH IT GOES INTO EFFECT.

UM, SO THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT DIFFERENT WORK GROUPS ARE WORKING ON AND WE ARE TRYING TO BASICALLY ESTABLISH BEST PRACTICES, UM, FIGURE OUT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO GET OUR LICENSE, UM, AND THEN GET A DEA LICENSE.

SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE STEPS.

UM, I KNOW DURING THE BUILDING COMMITTEE MEETING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT RETROFITTING, UM, STATION ONE, UM, BECAUSE IT IS A FIRE STATION THAT IS CLOSEST TO VALLEY HEALTH, WHICH IS WHERE WE SEND 90% OF OUR EMS CASES.

UM, SO IT WOULD BE A LOWER, I GUESS BASICALLY OUT OF SERVICE TIME FOR OUR EMS PROVIDERS.

UM, BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT WILL COST TO RETROFIT THAT.

UM, AND SO I'M GONNA TELL YOU A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DON'T KNOW.

UM, WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT IT'S GONNA ENTAIL REGARDING ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL BECAUSE IF WE ARE HAVING TO ACCEPT MEDICATIONS AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE DIVVIED OUT TO ALL OF OUR UNITS, WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS ACTUALLY CERTIFIED AND TRAINED IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

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AND THAT IS NOT ANYONE CURRENTLY ON PERSONNEL.

UM, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT AS WE KNOW, THINGS COME DOWN, UM, THAT ARE NOT FUNDED OR, SO THIS IS A NEW UNFUNDED MANDATE.

UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT A REGIONAL APPROACH.

SO THE REGIONAL EMS COUNCIL HAS BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER TO KIND OF NAVIGATE THROUGH THIS.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WILL BE A QUICK TIMELINE IS AT THE END OF AUGUST, THEY'LL HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY WILL DO A COLLABORATIVE, UM, BASICALLY ORDER OR LEASE AGREEMENT FOR PYXIS UNITS.

SO BASICALLY IT'S A STORAGE UNIT FOR MEDICATIONS.

UM, IF WE DO IT AS A REGIONAL APPROACH, WE GET A 35% DISCOUNT.

UM, AND WE WOULD BE LEASING RATHER THAN PURCHASING THE UNIT, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT CAPACITY WE NEED.

SO WE DON'T WANNA BUY SOMETHING AND THEN TWO YEARS LATER HAVE TO BUY SOMETHING MORE.

UM, THIS WOULD BE BASICALLY WE'D END UP GETTING ONE YEAR FREE OUT OF THE FIVE YEAR LEASE.

UM, AND I THINK I'VE TOLD YOU A LOT OF THINGS WE DON'T KNOW, UM, WE'RE GONNA END UP HAVING TO ASK FOR MONEY FOR THIS.

UM, HOW MUCH WE DON'T KNOW.

WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT THE RENOVATIONS, THE COST FOR MEDICATIONS WILL BE ROUGHLY 200 TO $250,000.

THE PERSONNEL IS THE QUESTION.

WE REALLY HAVE NO IDEA RIGHT NOW.

UM, CHIEF, DO YOU WANNA KIND OF TOUCH? SURE.

I'M GLAD TODAY.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING.

I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, EARLIER THIS EVENING SPEAK, THE TWO OF Y'ALL.

AND I JUST, BEFORE I GET STARTED, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU.

THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

UM, NOT ONLY FOR THE AMBULANCES, BUT ALSO THE FIRETRUCK.

IT'S A GREAT FIRETRUCK AND, UH, A LOT OF WORK WAS DONE, BUT NONE OF THIS WOULD'VE BEEN DONE OR AVAILABLE TO ANY OF US OR, OR THE CITIZENS WITHOUT YOUR ALL'S SUPPORT.

SO THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT.

AND, AND AGAIN, TO THE ADMINISTRATION, I THINK THANK YOU.

UM, AS, AS JANE JUST ALLUDED TO, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS AN UNFUNDED MANDATE AND JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY, UM, IN 2013, UM, IN THE PREVIOUS JURISDICTION, THIS CAME DOWN TO US AND WE NOT ONLY MANAGED THE PHARMACEUTICAL CASH, UM, WITHIN THE GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES OF THE JURISDICTION I WORKED IN, BUT UM, I TOO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE NATIONAL CAPITAL REGION'S, UH, PHARMACEUTICAL CASH TO INCLUDE EVERY RUN THAT'S SURROUNDED THE BELTWAY.

SO THIS MANDATE THAT WAS PUSHED DOWN AND AGAIN, PUSHED DOWN WITH VERY LITTLE GUIDANCE, UM, WAS NOT WELL RECEIVED BY THE MUNICIPALITIES.

UM, THE SHORT OF THIS IS WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE RECEIVING FACILITY, IN THIS CASE IT WAS THE VIRGINIA HOSPITAL CENTER.

UM, AND, AND SEE IF THEY COULD HELP US TO HELP MANAGE, UH, A SUBSET AND A, UH, A SKILL THAT WE SIMPLY DON'T HAVE ON, ON STAFF, NOR ARE ANY OF US.

AND I'LL BE VERY CANDID WITH YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I DON'T KNOW.

I'M NOT A TRAINED PHARMACIST, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONTROLLED MEDICATIONS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE, ONE FOR EXCHANGE, SOMETHING THAT I SIMPLY HAVE, DON'T HAVE A BACKGROUND IN, NOR DOES MY PERSONNEL.

SO IT'S JUST BAD BUSINESS.

AND THAT WAS KIND OF THE TAKE IS CAN YOU GUYS HELP US HERE? AND FRANKLY, UM, LEVEL HEADS PREVAILED AND WE WORKED OUT AN MOU AT NO COST TO ANYONE.

UM, AS, AS JANE ALLUDED TO, UM, THE LARGER PERCENTAGE OF ALL OF OUR TRANSPORTS EARNED TO THE VALLEY HEALTH, UM, CARE SYSTEM TO, WITH THE LION'S SHARE OF THOSE GOING TO A WAR MEMORIAL HOSPITAL, 90 PLUS PERCENTILE OF THOSE NOW CONTINGENT ON MECHANISM, CONTINGENT ON MECHANISMS OF INJURY AND, UH, SPECIALTY SUBSET CENTERS.

SOMETIMES BEING WINCHESTER, A LOT OF TIMES UVA RARELY DO WE GO OUTSIDE OF THAT WINDOW.

UM, IF THE ACUTE ACUITY DICTATES OR THE SPECIALTY SUBSET TRAUMA, UM, OR IF WE HAVE TO GO TO INOVA OR THE, UH, UVAS OF THE WORLD, WE'RE GONNA FLY SOMEBODY SIMPLY BECAUSE THE STANDARD OF CARE, SCOPE OF PRACTICE DICTATES IT.

SO THIS IS CONCERNING FOR US.

AND AS JANE ALLUDED TO, I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAN WE HAVE ANSWERS, BUT WE'RE NOT ALONE.

THE WHOLE REGION IS STRUGGLING WITH THIS.

I SPOKE TO THE CHIEF FROM FREDERICK COUNTY TODAY.

UM, THEY HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF QUESTIONS AND VERY LITTLE ANSWERS.

UM, WHILE I DO AGREE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY, IF WE AND I, AND IT LOOKS LARGELY THAT WE'RE GONNA END UP MANAGING THIS AND THAT'S A REALITY.

UM, BUT THAT SAID, THE ONLY ANSWER IS I THINK WE HAVE AN IDEA OF THE, THE, THE MACHINE.

WE WANT TO USE THE, THE MACHINE, IF YOU WILL, FOR INVENTORY MANAGEMENT OF THE MEDICATIONS AND WE'LL GET A COST DISCOUNT IF WE DO SO WHEN WE PURCHASE BY A REGIONAL, UM, UNDER A REGIONAL CONTRACT.

THAT'S COOL.

BUT THE OTHER IMPLICATIONS VIS-A-VIS STAFFING, THE ISSUE OF TIME, THE ISSUE OF SECURITY, THE ISSUE OF THE BUILD OUT, THE ISSUE OF THE, THE, THE SKILLSET AND THE MONITORING OF THE LICENSING, BOTH DEA AND CSCR, THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT ARE NEW TO US AND WE'RE, WE'RE RESEARCHING.

SO I WANT TO BE HONEST WITH THAT AND FORTHRIGHT IN

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THE SENSE THAT WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAN WE HAVE ANSWERS.

NOW, THAT'S NOT TO SAY WE'RE NOT DOING A LOT OF WORK 'CAUSE WE ARE.

UM, SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA STOP AND I'M GONNA LEAVE IT TO YOU ALL FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER ANYTHING.

WELL, I I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, THAT THIS IS BEING PUSHED DOWN BY GOVERNMENT, BUT THE HOSPITAL VALLEY HEALTH SYSTEM COULD HAVE MAINTAINED THE ONE FOR ONE SYSTEM THAT WE CURRENTLY USE HAD THEY WANTED TO, SO THAT THE, THIS WOULDN'T HAVE FALLEN AS SUCH A BURDEN ON US, IF THAT IS THAT CORRECT OR NOT? I THINK THAT'S FAIR.

UM, AND SO ON THE 29TH OF JULY, MS. MEADOWS, MYSELF, UH, CHIEF TICO, ALONG WITH THE STAFF TO INCLUDE THE BRASS, IF YOU WILL, AT WARREN MEMORIAL, MET TO HAVE THIS EXACT CONVERSATION.

AND I WAS EXCEPTIONALLY HONEST ABOUT THAT AND VERY CANDID THAT WE SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL OR THE FINANCIAL WHEREWITHAL EITHER TO SUSTAIN, TO, TO INITIATE AND OR SUSTAIN.

AND I LOOKED AT 'EM THREE TIMES AND SHE REMINDED ME, I ASKED IF THEY WOULD HELP IN UNDERWRITING THE COST OF THIS.

UM, WHILE IT WAS DULY NOTED, I GOT A STRONG SENSE THAT THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE? BECAUSE IT REALLY DOESN'T COST THEM ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY PASSED THE, THE COST ON THE PATIENT.

IF THEY GIVE ME A TYLENOL, AND LET'S FACE IT, YOU CAN BUY A BOTTLE OF TYLENOL FOR TWO OR THREE BUCKS AND THEY'RE GONNA CHARGE YOU $5 A BUCKS FOR THE PILL.

THEY'RE MAKING MONEY ON IT.

SO IT'S NOT A FINANCIAL ISSUE.

THEY'RE JUST BEING, EXCUSE ME, BUT I'M JUST GONNA PUT IT JERKS BECAUSE I CAN'T USE THE LANGUAGE I WOULD LIKE TO AT THIS POINT 'CAUSE I'M FRUSTRATED WITH THEM.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEY PULLED OUT, THEY BUILT THIS BEAUTIFUL HOSPITAL THAT'S BASICALLY A BANDAID STATION AND NOW THEY'RE GONNA PULL THE RUG OUT ON THIS AND THROW, YOU KNOW, THEIR SERVICES DON'T MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND NOW THEY'RE GONNA PUT AN EXTRA BURDEN ON THE SYSTEM THAT'S ALREADY BURDENED AND THEY'RE SETTING UP THERE LIKE FAT CATS RAKING IN THE MONEY AND DOING THIS TO US.

I, I JUST, I CAN'T HELP BUT SAY IT, AND YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE BEST YOU CAN IN A SITUATION, BUT THEY'VE GOT THIS WHOLE VALLEY, SHENANDOAH COUNTY IS UNDER VALLEY HEALTH PAGE COUNTY'S UNDER VALLEY HEALTH.

FREDERICK COUNTY'S UNDER WARREN COUNTY'S UNDER, THEY, THEY ARE JUST, I I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE ARE PULLING THE RUG OUT OF THEIR HEALTHCARE ON A DAILY BASIS AND THEY THINK THEY'RE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB.

GOTTA SAY IT.

SO YES MA'AM.

UM, TO THAT END, I, UM, WE'LL FIGURE THIS OUT.

UM, BUT I JUST WANNA BE FORTHRIGHT AND HONEST TO LET YOU KNOW IT'S GONNA COST SOME MONEY AND WE'LL GET IT FIGURED OUT AND WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO CALL A FEW AUDIBLES ALONG THE WAY.

BUT SUFFICE TO SAY, UM, WE'RE ON IT AND IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME TIME AND, AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT, NOT DISCOUNTING ANYTHING YOU SAID, MA'AM.

UM, WE'RE NOT IN IT BY OURSELVES, BUT EVERYBODY IS STRUGGLING ON HOW BEST TO NOT ONLY UNDERWRITE IT, BUT REALLY UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF WHAT THAT'S GONNA MEAN.

'CAUSE IF EVEN THOUGH YOU LOOK AT A REGIONAL CONCEPT, EACH JURISDICTION IS UNIQUELY DIFFERENT.

OUR 219 SQUARE MILES ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN TIMMY'S AND SHENANDOAH COUNTY AND WHERE THEY'RE GONNA LOCATE IT AND THE COST IMPLICATIONS, IF YOU WILL, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT YOUR RESPONSE TIME.

BECAUSE NOW WHEN YOU TAKE, IF I, IF I GO IN THE RESCUE SQUAD AND YOU HAD TO START AN IV, WHATEVER, WHEN YOU TAKE ME IN THE HOSPITAL, YOU CAN SAY, I USE THIS, THIS, AND THIS, AND THEY HAND IT TO YOU AND YOU GO BACK OUT THE DOOR AND YOU'RE BACK TO, IF YOU GET A CALL, YOU CAN TAKE THE CALL NOW, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT CALL BECAUSE YOU GOTTA GO RESTORE IT SOMEPLACE ELSE.

SO THAT TO ME, UM, FROM A FIRE CHIEF STANDPOINT, TO YOUR POINT, UH, MS. CALLERS IS MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE ISSUE.

UM, AND, AND YOU GUYS RIGHTFULLY SO PUSH ME ON THE IMPORTANT STA STATISTICS AND OUT SERVICE TIME IS CONCERNING TO ME.

AND WHILE WE DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER, THE ONE THING I CAN TELL YOU, IT'S GONNA TAKE LONGER FOR A UNIT TO COME BACK AND SERVICE, EVEN IF WE SAY IT'S IN THE, IN THE PERFECT WORLD, UM, WE'RE GONNA PLACE, UH, THE, THE, THE MACHINE, IF YOU WILL, ALONG WITH THE INVENTORY MANAGEMENT AND THE INDIVIDUAL, UM, IN FRONT ROYAL, THE SUFFICE TO SAY, YOU STILL GOTTA TRANSPORT THAT PATIENT, TRANSPORT THAT PATIENT, AND THEN TRANSFER THE INFORMATION AND THEN AN OUTTA SERVICE UNIT THEN COMES BACK TO THE FACILITY THEN TO STOCK UP AND THEN GO IN SERVICE.

SO, YEP, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

EVERYTHING YOU SAID THERE, I AGREE WITH NO, I MEAN, LET'S SAY YOU USE ALL YOUR NARCAN AND YOUR NEXT CALL AND YOU'RE THE CLOSEST UNIT IS AN OVERDOSE THAT YOU NOW DON'T HAVE THE MEDICATION, YOU NEED TO REVIVE THAT PERSON.

AND I, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE WITH ANYTHING YOU SAID, I THINK THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL

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SITUATIONS, SITUATIONS AND SCENARIOS WE CAN PORTRAY.

AND LIKE I SAID, WE'LL GET THROUGH IT.

MY, MY, I GUESS IF, IF WE STOP AND, AND TAKE A STEP BACK FROM THIS ROOM A MOMENT AND EVERYBODY IS STRUGGLING WITH IT, THE ISSUE OF UNIT HOUR UTILIZATION, THE ISSUE OF PATIENT CARE, YOU'VE GOT A SYSTEM, AND I CAN SAY THIS WITH A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT'S ALREADY STRESSED.

YOU'RE PLACING ANOTHER STRESS ON NOT ONLY THE SYSTEM BUT SUBSEQUENTLY THE CONSTITUENTS THEY SERVE.

AND THAT IS A CONCERN.

MM-HMM.

.

AND, UH, I WAS VERY HONEST WITH, UH, AND NOT JUST WAR MEMORIAL, BUT THE, THE, THE LEADERS OF WAR MEMORIAL.

BUT FRANKLY, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY IT FELL ON DEAF EARS.

I THINK EVERY FIRE CHIEF IS SAYING THE SAME THING, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, YOU SAID SOMETHING EARLIER IN REGARDS TO WHAT LEONARD ITSELF TO AN ISSUE OF MONOPOLY.

I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A FAIR, THAT'S A FAIR ANALOGY WHERE OTHER PLACES DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY.

THERE'S A LOT OF COMPETITION IF YOU WILL.

UM, SO THEREFORE, UM, IT'S INTERESTING, UM, IT CONCERNS ME AND CONCERNS ME AS A CITIZEN, UM, AS WELL BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE STICKING A FORK IN A SYSTEM THAT'S ALREADY STRESSED.

SO, UM, IT'S SOMETHING I THINK IF WE PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER, EXAMPLE BEING IF THEY WERE ABLE TO MANAGE THE CASH LIKE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW, UH, I'M NOT SURE OF THE FINANCIALS AND I DON'T WANNA SIT HERE AND, AND, AND SAY THAT I DO UNDERSTAND THEIR FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS THAT THERE IS ZERO COST.

BUT, UM, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT THIS DEPARTMENT, THIS COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL AND THE MEANS TO GET IT DONE.

NO, WE DON'T.

AND, UH, SO YEAH, AND, AND THE OTHER IMPLICATIONS OF PATIENT CARE, WHICH IS THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN YEP.

IS MY, THAT THEREIN LIES WHERE I WORK BACK FROM.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY PRIORITY.

AND, AND UH, AND AGAIN, WE GOT STAFF WORKING TO GET ALL THE ANSWERS, BUT AS JANE SAID, AND I AGREE WITH HER, THERE'S MORE QUESTIONS THAN THERE ARE ANSWERS RIGHT NOW.

SO I DON'T WANNA MISLEAD ANYBODY, BUT AS WE GET IT DONE, SUFFICE TO SAY YOU'LL BE BROUGHT ON BOARD.

BUT THE ONE THING I DO KNOW, I THINK IT'S, WE NEED TO COMMIT THE MONEY TO, AT A MINIMUM GET A PART OF THIS 35% DISCOUNT BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT CHANGING.

UM, UNLESS THE POLITICAL ERRORS MOVE IT IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, WE'RE UNDER, WE, WE HAVE A CHOICE, THEN WE CAN EITHER GET IT DONE OR NOW BECOME A BASIC LIFE SUPPORT SYSTEM, WHICH IS NOT WHAT THIS COUNTY NEEDS IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACUITY LEVEL.

SO MY CONCERN IS THE CITIZEN BASE, MY CONCERN IS TO ENSURE WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED TO DO BUSINESS.

BUT I WANTED TO BE HONEST AND FORTHRIGHT IN FRONT OF ALL OF YOU TODAY TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST.

DID VALLEY HEALTH SAY THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO WORK WITH US UNTIL WE GET OUR SYSTEM? OR IS IT WHEN THAT DATE COMES? THAT'S IT.

ADIOS.

SORRY FOR YOUR BAD LUCK.

SO WE LEFT IT WITH, UM, THE CONVERSATION AT A MINIMUM WHERE THEY ALLOW US TO HAVE THE PYXIS SYSTEM ON THEIR SITE SO OUR OUTTA SERVICE TIME WOULD BE LESS.

AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD GET BACK TO US ON THAT.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WAS AGREED UPON.

UM, AS FAR AS THE OVERSIGHT, THE FINANCIAL, THE FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS, THE STAFF, THE, THE KNOWLEDGE NEEDED TO MANAGE SUCH A PHARMACEUTICAL CASH, THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.

IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

CAN I ASK WHAT, WHAT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT, I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS 'CAUSE, UM, ARE ALL FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENTS NOW ESSENTIALLY TAKING ON THE, THE JOB OF BEING A PHARMACY? YES SIR.

THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED.

SO, AND, AND TO DO MY DILIGENCE TO GREAT QUESTION.

UM, MS. JAMESON, I REACHED OUT TO COLLEAGUES, UM, YOU KNOW, EAST OF US AND THEY'RE ALL DEALING WITH IT.

THEY'RE ALL TAKING IT IN HOUSE.

BUT IF I MAY, IT'S A LOT EASIER.

THEY GOT A LOT MORE STAFF.

MM-HMM.

AND RESPECTFULLY THEY COULD THROW MONEY AT IT.

UM, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS COMING DOWN TO.

AND UH, AND SO, UM, YEAH, SO LIKE I SAID, AND WE WERE ABLE TO ESCAPE IT IN 2013, I THINK IT WAS.

THAT WAS THE DATE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

BUT REALITY IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS BEING PUSHED DOWN AND AS SUCH THIS MANDATE EVERYBODY'S HAVING TO ABSORB.

YES SIR.

CAN, CAN YOU PROVIDE FROM SOME CONTEXT ABOUT WHERE THIS INITIATED? I MEAN WHAT IS, WHO IS SO PUSHING THE GLASSES, SO I CAN READ IT VERBATIM, BUT IN ESSENCE IF I MAY, UM, SO THE IMPETUS CAME FROM, I HAVE TOO MANY NOTES HERE, SO FORGIVE ME, I WANNA MAKE SURE I DON'T MISSPEAK.

SO THIS COMES FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF

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HEALTH AT THE STATE LEVEL.

AND IN ESSENCE WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS THE REQUIREMENTS.

I DON'T WANNA MISSPEAK 'CAUSE I'M LOOKING AT MY NOTES HERE AND THERE NOT AS CLEAR I'D LIKE TO BELIEVE.

BUT IN ESSENCE, THIS IS AN INITIATIVE THAT IS BEING PUSHED DOWN TO THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS.

NOW THE MEDICAL DIRECTION, UM, OUR MEDICAL DIRECTOR ALONG IS NORMALLY SADDLED WITH THE RECEIVING FACILITY, HISTORICALLY HAS HAD OVERSIGHT IN REGARDS TO THIS AND THEY STILL DO AS IT RELATES TO OUR STANDARD OF CARE AND OUR MEDICAL PROTOCOLS AND PROCEDURES.

YOU SAY RECEIVING FACILITY LIKE THE HOSPITAL THAT YOU DELIVER, SIR? YES, EXACTLY.

AND THAT'S WHERE, UM, OURS, DR. BENNETT, HE DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB.

YEAH.

AND ACTUALLY HE'S IN SUPPORT OF EVERYTHING WE SAID IN REGARDS TO OUT OUTTA SERVICE TIME, HIS CONCERNS ABOUT THAT ADVOCATING THAT THE ACTUAL PYXIS MACHINE RESIDE AT, UM, THE HOSPITAL.

SO IT LIMITS OUR LESSONS ARE OUTTA SERVICE TIME.

BUT THIS IS, UM, A DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH INITIATIVES BEING PUSHED DOWN AND NOW COMING THROUGH, UM, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THROUGH THE REGIONAL.

YEAH, I MEAN LIKE YOU MENTIONED IN IN, IN AROUND DC OR SOMETHING, THERE ARE LARGER JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE LARGER BUDGETS, BUT IT SEEMS, IT SEEMS LIKE ALMOST A DISASTER TO PUSH THIS OUT INTO RURAL COMMUNITIES WHERE I AGREE.

AND, AND RATHER THAN, AND, AND I'M MAKING SURE I DON'T MISSPEAK IN REGARDS TO THE IMPETUS AND WHERE IT'S COMING FROM.

EXACTLY.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, IF IT'S COOL WITH ALL OF YOU, I'D LIKE TO SEND YOU ALL NARRATIVES SPECIFICALLY STATING WHERE IT'S COMING FROM.

THAT WAY IT REMOVES ANY AMBIGUITY.

'CAUSE I'M OLD AND I WANNA MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MISS SOMETHING.

I WANTED TELL YOU THAT IS IT SOMEBODY SAVING MONEY SOMEWHERE THAT I COULDN'T TELL YOU MR. OR JAMES.

I REALLY COULDN'T.

I'M KIND OF READING BETWEEN THE LINES HERE BECAUSE IT'S COMING DOWN FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE, THE TRACING THEY SPECIFICALLY USE TRACING AND TRACKING IN THERE.

IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THEY MAY HAVE SOME INSTANCES WHERE THE, UH, WHERE PEOPLE ARE SAYING, I'M GIVING THIS TO THE LOCAL EMS WHEN THEY'RE LOCAL, GIVING IT TO THE LOCAL.

WELL, AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN NURSING SINCE 1979, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE AND THERE'S, THERE ARE SPECIFIC TRACKINGS AND, AND CHIEF KNOWS THAT AS WELL.

UH, BEING A PARAMEDIC AND YOU CAN TRICK THE SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, PULL OUT A VALVE OF DEMIL, PUT IT IN A SYRINGE, TAKE IN A SYRINGE OF SALINE.

IF YOU'VE MINE TO DO IT, PUT IT IN THAT VI AND YOU'RE THE ONLY PERSON THAT KNOWS ABOUT IT.

SO THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF WAYS.

BUT A ONE-ON-ONE BOX THAT, THAT YOU BREAK THE SEAL ON, GIVE THE MEDICATION, DOCUMENT THE MEDICATION, TAKE THAT BOX INTO THE EMERGENCY ROOM, AND THEY EXCHANGE IT FOR A SEALED BOX THAT DOESN'T GET UNBROKEN UNTIL THE NEXT TIME.

NOW YOU'RE GONNA PUT IT OUT AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IT.

SOMEBODY'S GOTTA PUT IT IN THE PYXIS AND YES, IT'S, IT'S LIKE THE HONOR SYSTEM.

YOU, YOU TAKE IT OUT.

WHO'S TO SAY WHERE IT GOES FROM THAT POINT? I CAN WRITE IT DOWN THAT I GAVE IT TO JOE BLOW ON THE RESCUE SQUAD UNIT FOR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, SEIZURE.

UM, DID I DO IT? WHO'S TO SAY JUST FOR CLARITY'S SAKE, THE ONE THING I DO, THIS ISN'T A FEDERAL INITIATIVE, THIS IS A COMMONWEALTH'S INITIATIVE.

OKAY.

SO I, LET ME, AND RATHER THAN ME PRESUPPOSE I HAVE ALL THE FACTS HERE, I'M READING, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I GOT ALL THE FACTS IN FRONT OF YOU IN THERE IN WRITTEN NARRATIVE SO YOU CAN LOOK AT IT YOURSELF.

SO I'LL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THAT FOR CLARITY.

YEAH.

AND MYSELF, BASICALLY IT JUST SAYS THAT IT'S DUE TO COMPLIANCE WITH REGULATIONS UNDER THE DRUG SUPPLY CHAIN SECURITY ACT, UNDER THE, UH, FEDERAL FOOD AND DRUG AND COSMETIC ACT PASSED DOWN FROM THE FDA AND THE COMMONWEALTH.

SO, AND THEN THEY PASS IT TO THE COMMONWEALTH.

AND THE COMMONWEALTH IS, IS APPLYING IT THIS WAY, RIGHT.

TO, TO MS. KOHLER'S POINT ON MADAM CHAIR, I I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND SAY DISAGREE, REST, REST ASSURE THAT IF WE'VE TAKEN THIS OVER, I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THE ISSUE OF INVENTORY MANAGEMENT, BUT NOT TO THE DEGREE I NEED TO BE, OR, OR PHARMACIST TO YOUR POINT, MR. JAMESON.

UM, BUT THE ISSUE OF CONTROLLED MEDICATIONS IS A CONCERN.

THE ISSUE OF ONE FOR ONE EXCHANGE, THE ISSUE OF RECEIVING THE DRUGS, ACCOUNTING FOR THE DRUGS, AND THEN TRANSPORTATION OF THE DRUGS TO A FIXED FACILITY AND THEN TO MANAGE THOSE DRUGS.

SO THERE, IT'S, IT'S MULTIFACETED AND IT'S ONGOING.

AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A JURISDICTION THAT'S BUSY.

YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ONE THAT'S RUNNING ONE OR TWO CALLS.

I MEAN, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHO ASKED ME THE QUESTION.

I THINK IT WAS JANE ASKED ME THE QUESTION ABOUT, UM, THE, UM, THE FLIGHT FOLKS THAT ARE RIGHT NOW AT FIRE STATION TOO, AND WHAT THEY DO, AND THEY DO AND THEY HANDLE IT REALLY WELL, BUT THEY TRANSPORT AFTER THE PRE-HOSPITAL CARE LARGELY HAS BEEN DONE.

IT'S

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A CONTINUANCE OF CARE.

SO THEIR SCOPE OF RESPONSIBILITY, IF YOU WILL, LITERALLY IS A BOX AND A SAFE THAT THEY MANAGE THE DRUGS.

THEY NEED TO TAKE THAT TO NINE TRANSPORT UNITS, NINE FIREHOUSES AND, AND EXPONENTIALLY GROWING.

THAT'S STAFF POOR.

SO WE'RE NOT, TO YOUR POINT OF A RURAL JURISDICTION, MR. JAMESON, WE'RE NOT ATYPICAL.

I MEAN, EVERY JURISDICTION IS STRUGGLING.

WE ARE MIGHTLY AND WILL SIMPLY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL AND NOR DO WE HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE BASE.

WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.

I KNOW WE'LL DO IT.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S THE RIGHT WAY OF DOING BUSINESS, BUT, BUT IT, THE, THE HOSPITALS NOT JUST IN THIS VALLEY, BUT EVERYWHERE THE HOSPITALS HAVE THE OPTION TO CONTINUE PROVIDING THAT SUPPORT ROLE.

I HAVE NOT, UH, HEARD ANYBODY SAY THEY COULDN'T HELP .

I, THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING I I'VE I'VE NOT HEARD ANYBODY SAY WE WOULD HELP.

YEAH.

UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS, SO IT WAS A MATTER OF THE LAW ALLOWING THEM TO NOT DO IT.

SO THEN THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO NOT, TO NOT, AND SO I'M, I'M, I'M SENSING THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT PRECLUDES THEM FROM HELPING.

I'M, I'M SENSING THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT PRECLUDES THEM FROM KEEPING IT THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW, OTHER THAN THE COST IMPLICATIONS AND THE OVERSIGHT AND RESPONSIBILITY.

SO AGAIN, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FINANCIAL NEEDS OF THAT.

I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE FOR THIS GONNA BE FOR THIS SYSTEM.

I CAN PRETTY MUCH GET AN IDEA, BUT I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM.

WELL, I WOULD JUST SAY MAYBE THE DOOR'S NOT CLOSED ON WHETHER VALLEY HEALTH IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS.

I MEAN, THE, AN INDICATION IN A MEETING THAT YOU HAD IS, IS WHAT IT IS.

BUT YES SIR.

MAYBE THERE'S MORE CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE AROUND THAT.

I, I WOULD AGREE.

AND, AND YOU KNOW, I'M NOT INDIFFERENT TO IT.

I MEAN, WE WERE VERY CLEAR IN REGARDS TO THE ASSISTANCE WE NEED.

UM, UM, SO YES, SIR.

YEAH, I WOULD, UM, I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY'LL RECONSIDER AND AT AT LEAST ALLOWING THE PYXIS, UH, MACHINE OR UNIT TO BE ON SITE AT, AT THEIR LOCATION, BUT ALSO YOUR REQUEST TO HELP UNDERWRITE, UNDERWRITE SOME OF THE COSTS.

UM, BUT ALSO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION TO THE REST OF THE BOARD, UM, THE TOWN COUNCIL, UH, I THINK A WEEK AGO ON AUGUST 5TH, I SAW THAT HAD A RESOLUTION ON THEIR WORK SESSION ABOUT HEALTHCARE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING AND, AND SOMEWHAT RELEVANT AND MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE WANT TO TAKE UP, UH, A JOINT RESOLUTION OR A MATCHING RESOLUTION.

I ACTUALLY, UM, FORWARDED THAT, UM, THE ONE THAT WAS PRESENTED, SENT TO ME, UM, TO MR. HENDERSON TO FORWARD ONE TO MR. HAM TO GET THAT LOOKED AT.

UM, SO WE COULD CONSIDER THAT.

OKAY, GOOD.

BECAUSE I DID SEE THAT AND I WANTED TO KNOW WHERE THAT WAS.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

WELL, I THINK SOME, SOME FURTHER I WOULD SAY THE DOORS STAY, STAY OPEN IN TERMS OF, OF THINKING OF THAT AS A POTENTIAL, UM, OPTION.

BUT I AM HEARING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT FOREWARNING US.

YES, SIR.

ABOUT, SIR, I HEAR YOU.

IT'S NOT, AND, AND RESPECTFULLY AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WANNA UNDERTAKE.

WE JUST UNDERSTAND THAT IF IT'S GONNA BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY, WE WANNA DO IT RIGHT.

UM, AND AGAIN, TO MY EARLIER POINT, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THAT NARRATIVE TO TELL YOU EXACTLY WHERE THIS IS BEING PUSHED DOWN FROM.

MY THANKS.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU.

NOT FROM ME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

I'M SORRY, I PROBABLY WENT A LITTLE OVERBOARD WITH MY ATTITUDE, BUT HOSPITAL IS SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY, NOT DO WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

I'M JUST, SORRY.

WELL, IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING.

ALL RIGHTY.

WE'RE UP TO

[G. Discussion - Lease with Shenandoah Area Agency on Aging, Inc]

CHAND AREA AGENCY ON AGING AND THE LEASE.

YES.

HI.

UM, WE ARE IN THE FINAL INSPECTION STAGES OF THE SENIOR CENTER AND WITH THAT WE'RE UM, WE'VE GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE REVISIONS OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH SENIORS FIRST.

THAT'S THE NEW NAME.

IT'S MUCH EASIER TO SAY.

UM, AND SO I WANNA BRING A COUPLE OF THINGS TO YOUR ATTENTION.

SO, UM, THE 15TH STREET IS A UNIQUE COMPLEX IN THAT WE DON'T ACTUALLY OWN THE BUILDING.

WE LEASE THE BUILDING FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD.

UM, SO WE HAVE A 30 YEAR LEASE WITH 10 YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS.

WE'RE CURRENTLY, UM, 13 YEARS INTO THAT LEASE.

UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATION WITH SENIORS FIRST 'CAUSE THEY WERE CONCERNED IF SOMETHING DID HAPPEN, WOULD THEY HAVE TO MOVE OUT IF THE LEASE WAS NOT RENEWED.

UM, SO THE LEASE AGREEMENT WE HAVE IS A YEARLY RENEWAL.

UM, AND SO EVERY YEAR IT WOULD AUTORENEW.

UM, SO WE DID NOT DO A LONGER LEASE, WHICH TYPICALLY WE WOULD DO, UM, WE HAVE WITH THE OLD SENIOR CENTER, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S A COUNTY OWNED BUILDING.

SO THAT'S THE KIND OF FIRST NUANCE TO THE LEASE AGREEMENT.

UM, THE SECOND,

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AND I THINK IN YOUR PACKETS, YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE AGREEMENT, UM, WITH RENT, UM, THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY'RE PROVIDING BASICALLY RECREATION, UM, SERVICES TO 65 AND UP COMMUNITY.

UM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY IS ABLE TO DONATE RATHER THAN ACTUALLY LEASE IT TO THEM FOR A MONETARY AMOUNT.

UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE PROVIDING A SERVICE THAT WE WANT IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, SO THEY'RE PROVIDING THAT FOR US, THEREFORE, WE ARE GIVING THEM THE SPACE FOR IT.

UM, SO FOR RENT YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE IS NO MONEY EXCHANGING HANDS.

UM, WITH UTILITIES, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED A LOT IN THE PAST ABOUT WHO'S PAYING FOR UTILITIES.

THIS SPACE WILL BE A SHARED SPACE FOR THE RESTROOMS, SOME OF THE CLASSROOMS, UM, WITH PARKS AND RECREATION AND ALSO THE VOTER REGISTRATION.

UM, SO WITH THAT, THE ONLY THING THAT WE ARE ASKING THAT THEY PAY FOR IS ACTUALLY THE PROPANE, WHICH IS FOR THE KITCHEN USAGE.

UM, SO THE REST OF THE UTILITIES WILL ACTUALLY BE PAID FOR BY THE COUNTY SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THE SPACE FROM A RECREATION SIDE WITHOUT TRYING TO KEEP TRACK OF WHO WASHED WHAT AND FLUSHED THE TOILETS A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TIMES.

AND WITH THE USE OF THE PREMISES, AS I MENTIONED, WE WILL HAVE SHARED SPACES.

UM, OUR, THE 15TH STREET COMPLEX DOES HOUSE THE GYM FOR THE COUNTY AND ALSO ONE OF THE TRACKS.

UM, SO WE WERE LOOKING AT ACTUALLY UTILIZING MORE OF THE CLASSROOMS THERE FOR PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVEN'T PREVIOUSLY OFFERED THROUGH PARKS AND RECREATION.

AND THEREFORE THIS SPACE THAT IS PRETTY MUCH GUARANTEED TO THE SENIOR CENTERS IS THE, OR THE SENIOR CENTER IS THE ACTUAL CAFETERIA AND THE KITCHEN.

THE OTHER SPACES ARE SHARED SPACES.

UM, AND THE LAST PAGE HAS A DIAGRAM WHICH SHOWS YOU THE LAYOUT AND SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THEM.

WE HAVE WORKED WITH THEM TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL STORAGE BECAUSE AT THEIR CURRENT SITE THEY DO HAVE SOME OUTBUILDINGS.

UM, SO THEY'LL HAVE AN EXTERIOR STORAGE AND THEN ALSO AN INTERIOR STORAGE THAT IS ON THE HALLWAY WITH SOCIAL SERVICES.

AND, UM, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, UM, THEY REQUESTED THAT WE MODIFY SO THAT THEY COULD HAVE EVENTS WITH ALCOHOL, BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY A SCHOOL PROPERTY.

UM, WE CANNOT HAVE ALCOHOL ON SITE.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH.

UM, THEREFORE THEY WOULD, IF THEY HAVE AN EVENT FOR FUNDRAISING THAT THEY WISH TO HAVE ALCOHOL, IT WOULD BE OFFSITE RATHER THAN ACT THE ACTUAL SENIOR CENTER.

AND THAT IS BASICALLY THE KIND OF THE NUTS AND BOLTS, THE ODDITIES WITH THE LEASE AGREEMENT.

ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, WHEN ARE THEY GONNA START MOVING IN? UM, AS SOON AS WE GET THE FINAL INSPECTION, WHICH HOPEFULLY SHOULD BE NEXT WEEK.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GREAT.

WELL, WE'LL BE VERY HAPPY WHEN THE PROJECT'S DONE.

.

I KNOW THEY WILL BE.

YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

[Items F & H]

ASSET REPLACEMENT VEHICLES FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

SHERIFF KLINE, I THINK, OH, WE CAN BOTH DO IT.

OKAY.

, HAVE YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YOU, WE, THIS TIME , THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT SHE WAS TAKING IT.

THIS WAS ADDED TO THE WORK SESSION BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE BOARD REVIEW IT AND AWARD THE PURCHASE, UH, AT THE MEETING ON THE 20TH.

AND BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH ALL THE INFORMATION.

SO MY ROLE WOULD BE THE PROCUREMENT OF, IT'S ACTUALLY THE LAST TWO AGENDA ITEMS. IT'S, UM, H AND TO EYE, UM, IS TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCUREMENT OF THOSE AND THEN ALSO TALK ABOUT THE FINANCES OF THOSE.

AND SHERIFF CLIENT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE JUSTIFICATION OF NEED OF THE PURCHASE AS WELL.

SO, UM, I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THAT FIRST OR HAVE THE SHERIFF TALK ABOUT THE NEED OF THE PURCHASE, WHATEVER.

IT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.

THIS WAS.

YES.

AND THIS WAS ALL IN THE BUDGET, CORRECT? CORRECT.

THE, THE VEHICLES WERE ALREADY IN THE BUDGET FOR $730,000 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 25.

SO THERE'S NOTHING NEW TO TALK ABOUT WITH THAT.

THAT ACTUALLY IS COMING IN UNDER BUDGET.

UM, THERE ARE A FEW ITEMS THAT WEREN'T ON THE POS THAT WE, I CAN TALK ABOUT IF YOU WANT, WHY WE'RE UNDER BUDGET A LITTLE BIT.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN THE PURCHASE OF THE IN-CAR CAMERAS AND THE BODY CAMERAS.

UM, UH, THE FINANCE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE USE ANY UNSPENT FISCAL YEAR 24 OPERATIONS FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BUDGET IN THE GENERAL FUND.

AND WE CARRY THOSE FORWARD TO THE ASSET REPLACEMENT FUND IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS PURCHASE.

SO

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THAT WOULD BE A TRANSFER NEXT WEEK? IT IT WILL BE A TRANSFER.

THANK YOU.

IT WILL BE A TRANSFER NEXT WEEK.

SO ON THE APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS LIST, WE HAVE TWO BUDGET ACTION FORMS THAT ADDRESS THIS.

UM, AND AS YOU SEE WHAT PART OF YOUR PACKET IS THE, UM, BURN JUSTICE GRANT IS PAYING FOR A PORTION OF THIS AS WELL.

SO THE EXPENDITURE TOTAL IS $117,000.

UM, THE REIMBURSEMENT THROUGH THE BURN JUSTICE GRANT IS $72,000, ALMOST SEVEN $73,000.

SO THE $25,000 AND THE $19,000, THOSE ARE THE TWO TRANSFERS FROM FY 24 TO FY 25 THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE NEXT WEEK.

AND THERE ALSO IS A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL VEHICLES FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AS WELL.

SO THAT IS ALSO COMING OUT OF THE FISCAL YEAR 24 SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BUDGET IN THE GENERAL FUND IS, THIS ALL, IS ALL PLANNED AND ALL BUDGET.

THE GRANT WAS A BIG TICKET ITEM FOR US.

UM, 'CAUSE THAT GRANT, UM, FOR THE, YOU GOTTA GET UP WITH, I'M SO SORRY, .

I I'M JUST HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH YOU ALL.

, THE GRANT WAS, UM, HUGE.

IT WAS A A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS GRANT WITH A $25,000 MATCH ON THAT.

UM, FOR THE INCAR CAMERA SYSTEM.

UH, IF YOU RECALL, DURING THE BUDGET PERIOD, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE L THREES THAT, UM, THERE WERE SOME FOUND IN TRUNKS AND THEY, THEY, THEY DON'T WORK ANYMORE AND THERE'S NO AUDIO THAT COMES THAT CAN BE UPLOADED ON THE SERVER.

AND IT'S A HUGE LIABILITY FOR OUR DEPUTIES OUT THERE FOR THAT.

SO THAT IS FOR EXISTING VEHICLES THAT WERE REPLACING THOSE L THREE CAMERAS TO GET IT ON THE WATCHGUARD SYSTEM.

SO THAT PURCHASE AND THOSE PURCHASES UNFORTUNATELY AREN'T IN THE NEW VEHICLES.

UM, IT WOULD'VE BEEN GREAT TO TAKE THAT OFF OF THE, THE BOTTOM LINE OF THOSE VEHICLES, BUT, BUT IT'S NOT, UM, THERE IS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT, UM, IT IS A LITTLE UNDER BUDGET.

WE JUST HAVE A FEW ITEMS. I HAVE ADDED A COUPLE ITEMS THAT I THINK SHOULD BE STANDARD IN OUR DEPUTY VEHICLES THAT WEREN'T IN THERE.

UM, ONE OF THEM IS THE LOCKOUT TOOLKITS.

UH, SO OUR PATROL DIVISION, WELL ACTUALLY DEPARTMENT WIDE WAS DOWN TO FOUR OR FIVE LOCKOUT KITS.

AND IF THEY, THAT PARTICULAR DEPUTY ISN'T ON DUTY, THEN WE WOULD BE BREAKING WINDOWS.

HMM.

UM, SO WE FEEL THAT LOCKOUT KITS SHOULD BE A STANDARD EQUIPMENT IN THERE AS WELL AS, UM, A FEW ANIMAL CONTROL ITEMS AND ACCIDENT, UM, MEASURING TOOLS.

UM, THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DURING THE LAST ADMINISTRATION THEY MOVED SO THAT WE COULD SERVE OUR COMMUNITY BETTER AND MORE EFFICIENTLY IS THAT WE WOULD BE WORKING OUR OWN ACCIDENTS RATHER THAN RELYING ON THE VIRGINIA STATE POLICE TO COME FROM AREAS OF OUTSIDE OF THE AREA.

UM, AND IT TAKES THEM A LONG TIME TO, TO WORK ACCIDENTS.

SO IT'S GIVEN THEM THE TOOLS TO DO IT.

SO THERE IS PROBABLY, I WOULD SAY ABOUT, UM, AS WELL AS OUR PORTABLE RADIOS AS PART OF THAT PACKAGE, ABOUT 25,000 THAT WE STILL HAVE TO EXPEND TO BUILD OUT THOSE VEHICLES.

BUT WE DID, UM, CHANGE COMPANIES FOR THE UPFITTING.

UM, WE FOUND IT WAS CHEAPER.

THE OTHER COMPANY, UM, WE DID HAVE ISSUES WITH THE LAST VEHICLES IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS, UM, WITH SOME GROUNDING ISSUES AND SOME OTHER THINGS.

AND, UM, THEY ALSO DROPPED OFF OF THE STATE CONTRACT PRICING.

SO WE DID GO WITH A CHEAPER, UM, COMPANY, WHICH I, I WAS VERY HAPPY ABOUT SINCE ALL OTHER PRICES KIND OF INCREASED ON THAT.

SO, SO EVERYTHING'S GONNA FIT UNDER YES.

AND YOU HAVE THE FUNDS FROM 24? YES, WE DO.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO HOW MANY VEHICLES TOTAL WOULD YOU, SO WITH THE, UM, THE BUDGET, THE ASSET REPLACEMENT, WE WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE SEVEN EXPLORERS.

MM-HMM.

, UM, ONE OF WHICH IS A CANINE VEHICLE.

MM-HMM.

, UM, WHICH COSTS A LITTLE BIT MORE.

AND THEN WE GOT AN F-150 MM-HMM.

FOR THE ANIMAL CONTROL.

THAT WILL BE OUR FOURTH ANIMAL CONTROL VEHICLE TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE FOUR POSITIONS.

MM-HMM.

FILLED AND AVAILABLE.

GOOD TO GO OUT ON THE ROADS.

UM, AND THEN HOPEFULLY WITH, UM, ENCUMBERED FUNDS FROM LAST YEAR, NOT ASKING FOR ANYMORE THAT WE WILL EITHER GET ONE OR TWO DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS.

AND THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER PATROL VEHICLE.

OKAY.

UH, EMERGENCY RESPONSE FROM MY CLARIFICATION, AND I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, LOCKOUT KITS, IF I LOCK MY KEYS IN THE CAR, THAT'S SOMETHING TO GET THE WINDOW DOWN VERSUS CRACKING THE WINDOWS, WHAT YOU SAID, RIGHT? LIKE OR IF THERE'S ANIMALS IN THERE, UM, IF THERE'S CHILDREN IN THERE, UM, THE LAST THING WE

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WOULD WANNA DO IS, IS BUST THE WINDOW OUT AND THEN THERE'S SOME KIND OF DAMAGE LOCKOUT KIT AND IT, IT'S, IT'S NO LONGER REALLY WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO LIKE A, A HANGER, BUT IT IS A MECHANISM THAT BLOWS UP THE, THE DOOR A LITTLE BIT.

YOU JAM IT IN THERE AND STICK IT IN THERE AND IT KIND OF BLOWS IT OUT.

AND THEN YOU CAN HIT THE UNLOCK BUTTON.

THERE'S SO MANY ELECTRONICS IN THESE, YOU KNOW, THE LOCKING MECHANISM OF A VEHICLE NOWADAYS, AND IT, IT'S NO DAMAGE OR ANYTHING, BUT IT IS A GREAT TOOL TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS OUT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF DAMAGE.

OKAY.

AND AS FAR AS THE TOOLS, UH, FOR MEASUREMENTS, I ASSUME THAT'S, YOU KNOW, GONNA HELP WITH INSURANCE COVERAGE, HAVING THAT INFORMATION READILY AVAILABLE IF SOMEBODY HITS MY CAR OR WHATEVER AND I TURN IT INTO INSURANCE, THEY WANT ALL THIS KIND OF INFORMATION.

IS THAT, SO IT'S NOT REALLY UNLIKE, I MEAN, WE, WE DO A LOT OF ESTIMATING STUFF, BUT IT IS REALLY, UM, NO ONE WANTS TO BE LISTED FIRST ON THE FR THREE HUNDREDS OR REPORTING FORMS BECAUSE THAT'S USUALLY THE AT FAULT PERSON.

BUT WHEN THERE IS QUESTION ABOUT IT AND YOU HAVE TO MEASURE SKID MARKS MM-HMM.

OR, YOU KNOW, DO THE CALCULATIONS ON THOSE THINGS, WE COULD WALK IT OUT AND IT'S JUST A VERY BASIC ESTIMATION OF WHAT THE MEASUREMENTS ARE, BUT WE GOT A SIMPLE TOOL.

IT IS, IT'S UNDER $50 THAT YOU CAN WALK AND IT WILL MEASURE HOW MANY FEET IN INCHES.

AND IT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCURATE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INSURANCE CLAIMS AND RISING COSTS AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

YOU, I MEAN, WE WANNA BE MORE ACCURATE THAN THE GUESSTIMATION ON THAT, SO.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SHERIFF KLE.

I THINK THAT, THAT COMING IN UNDER BUDGET LIKE THAT, I THINK THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB NOW.

I CAME UNDER BUDGET, BUT I AM WILLING TO SPEND THAT MONEY AND TRY TO, TO WORK IT OUT TO GET ANOTHER VEHICLE, BUT, BUT IT'S NOT ASKING FOR ANY MORE MONEY AND JUST, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN WITHOUT YEAH.

YEAH.

BUT JUST, JUST LIKE YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE YOUR DEPUTIES AT RISK IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE PROPER EQUIPMENT.

SO, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING A BETTER QUALITY OF EQUIPMENT THROUGH THIS NEW COMPANY AS WELL.

WAYLAN IS A GREAT COMPANY, UM, THAT A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS ARE GOING TO.

SO I I WAS ACTUALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT TOO.

SO WE'RE GETTING QUALITY AND UNDER BUDGET.

I WAS LIKE, THAT'S A WIN-WIN .

SURE.

ONE OFF, OFF TOPIC QUESTION.

THE RIBBON OVER YOUR BADGE, WHO IS THAT IN MEMORY OF? THAT'S FOR, UM, THE DEPUTY THAT WAS KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY IN SMITH COUNTY.

OKAY.

AND, UM, IT WAS A RA UH, REGULAR ROUTINE TRAFFIC STOP THAT THE COUNTY WAS BACKING UP.

UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN MARION AND TRAFFIC STOP, STOP WAS DONE.

TICKET SUMMONS HAD BEEN ISSUED AND, UM, HE, HE SHOT OUTSIDE THE WINDOW AND SHOT HIM AND KILLED HIM.

HE WAS 27 YEARS OLD WITH THREE YOUNG CHILDREN MARRIED, SO SENSELESS.

OKAY.

DEFINITELY PRAYERS FOR THEIR FAMILY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, WELL THAT'S THE END OF OUR AGENDA UNLESS ONE MORE QUICK INFORMATION.

ALL RIGHTY.

YES MA'AM.

UH, PRIOR TO, UM, YOU'RE COMING ON THE BOARD SUPERVISORS, THE BOARD, UH, APPLIED FOR AND RECEIVED A VO GRANT TO BUILD A TRAILWAY TO CONNECT TO THE TOWN GREEN CIRCLE TRAIL.

THIS TRAIL WAS GOING TO COME DOWN ALONG 5 22, UH, FROM THE APPALACHIAN TAIL TRAIL OF BREAK OFF THERE, WHERE YOU COME OUT ON 5 22 AND COME DOWN ALONG THE ROAD TO CONNECT THE CHRYSLER ROAD.

UH, AFTER LOOKING AT THE PROJECT GOING AROUND A FEW TIMES WITH THE, UM, LEGAL I, THAT WAS DETERMINED THE COST WAS GONNA BE KIND OF LIKE THE, UH, SHEDA FARMS PROJECTS, THAT IT WAS GONNA BE FOUR OR FIVE TIMES WHAT THE ESTIMATE WAS.

AND THEREFORE ALSO THE, UM, SMITHSONIAN WAS NOT ENTHUSIASTIC AT ALL ABOUT PROVIDING PROPERTY FOR THIS PATHWAY.

SO WE'RE HAVING TO LOOK AT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, WHICH LOOK THERE YOU GOT SOME BANKS PROBLEMS. SO THE PROJECT WAS CANCELED, UH, 2021, THE BOARD AUTHORIZED IZATION, WILL V UH, THREE YEARS LATER HAS GONE BACK AND LOOKED AT THEIR FILES AND UH, THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE US $6,033 AND 21 CENTS

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FOR THEIR TIME AT LOOKING AT OUR WORK.

WE KNOW THEY, THEY CUT THE VDOT FUNDING AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THEN THEY CHARGE IT BACK TO ALL THE LOCAL PROJECTS.

AND THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE PROJECTS.

REMEMBER WE WILL BE GETTING SOME BILLS FROM VDOT PROBABLY TWO YEARS FROM NOW OR THE SHENANDOAH FARM HOLD OH BUY AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT THEIR STAFF LOOKED AT BUT WAS NOT GONNA GO TO FRUITION.

NOTHING LIKE GETTING TIMELY BILLS, HUH? THAT'S RIGHT.

TIMELY BILLS, UM, SAVES THE STATE MONEY FROM, YOU CAN REDUCE THINGS BY CHARGING TO LOCALS.

OH MY.

UM, SO THIS WILL BE ON YOUR AGENDA NEXT WEEK AS ONE OF THE TRANSFERS TO PROVIDE IS 6,000.

MORAL OF THE STORY IS MAKE SURE YOU REALLY WANNA DO THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU EVER HAVE A CONVERSATION.

THAT ONE, THAT ONE WAS GONNA BE A ROUGH ONE ANYWAY.

THAT'S A BUSY PLACE TO TRY TO CROSS.

GOOD PLACE FOR IT.

NO, NO.

ALL RIGHTY.

WELL THAT CONCLUDES OUR WORK SESSION.

SO EVERYONE HAVE A SAFE TRAVELS HOME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.