* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] GOT FOUR. OKAY. [B. Discussion - Medication Exchange Program - Gerry Maiatico ] WE'RE, IF EVERYONE WILL HAVE A SEAT WHERE WE'VE GOT ABOUT 12 MINUTES, UH, FOR, UM, ASSISTANT CHIEF TO GO OVER HIS PORTION OF, UM, THE LAST FEW MINUTES OF YOUR WORK SESSION. . THANK YOU. WELL, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND COUNTY STAFF, AS ALWAYS, IT'S A, A PLEASURE TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU. AND WE JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON, UH, THE WARREN COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES MEDICATION EXCHANGE PROGRAM. UH, YOU HAVE A HANDOUT IN FRONT OF YOU. IT'S JUST FOUR SIMPLE PAGES. UM, AND THIS IS KIND OF A PIGGYBACK OFF OF THE CONVERSATION THAT CHIEF BONNO HAD WITH YOU SEVERAL WEEKS AGO. UH, SO ULTIMATELY, THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES RECEIVED NOTIFICATION ON APRIL 2ND, UH, OF THIS YEAR, UH, THAT THE VIRGINIA HOSPITAL BASED DRUG BOX EXCHANGE PROGRAM WOULD END AS SOON AS NOVEMBER 27TH, 2024, DUE TO FEDERAL REGULATORY CHANGES. ULTIMATELY, THIS IS, UH, A RESULT OF SOME REGULATORY CHANGES FROM THE FDA, UM, FROM THE DRUG SUPPLY, UH, CHAIN SECURITY ACT, UM, ENFORCEABLE THROUGH THE FDA. IT ALSO INVOLVES THE VIRGINIA BOARD OF PHARMACY, AS WELL AS THE DEA, SO THE DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION. UH, SO KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE US DO IS TRY TO CONFORM TO, UM, SOME STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS AS IT RELATES TO HOW ARE WE GONNA CONTINUE TO ENSURE OUR EMS PROVIDERS HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACCESS, UH, THE MEDICATIONS AND CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES THAT WE CURRENTLY CARRY ON OUR EMS FLEET. UH, THIS REALLY BOILS DOWN TO WHAT THEY CALL A TRACK AND TRACE, UH, THAT TRACK AND TRACE SPECIFICALLY CARVES OUT, UM, EXEMPTIONS FOR EMS BASED CARE, UM, AND AMBULANCE, UH, PARAMEDIC ACCESS TO MEDICATIONS. UH, BUT IT DOES NOT PROVIDE THAT CARVE OUT FOR HOSPITAL BASED CENTERS. SO THE HOSPITAL CENTERS ARE SAYING THAT THERE'S NO WAY, ONCE WE GIVE THE EMS AGENCY, UH, THE MEDICATION, THERE IS NO WAY FOR US TO TRACK THAT MEDICATION ONCE IT RECEIVES, UH, THE EMS AGENCY'S HANDS. SO BASICALLY THE TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP. UM, SO LASTLY, WE'RE JUST WAITING THE FINAL RULE OF THE DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION, UM, ON THEIR END. BUT WE FULLY ANTICIPATE THAT THIS IS GONNA CONTINUE, UM, AND WE NEED TO BE PREPARED TO, UM, ABSORB THE RESPONSIBILITIES, UM, CURRENTLY RESTING WITH VALLEY HEALTH AND WARREN MEMORIAL HOSPITAL AND PROVIDING MEDICATIONS FOR OUR EMS SYSTEM. ALL OF THIS IS DONE. IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE THREE, REALLY BASED OFF OF THE TRACKING OF MEDICATIONS AND CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES, OUR STAFF IS GONNA BE REQUIRED TO TRACK THOSE MEDICATIONS THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, THE STORAGE OF THOSE MEDICATIONS, THE DISTRI, THE DISTRIBUTION OF THOSE MEDICATIONS TO OUR DRUG KITS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE VEHICLES, UH, THE ADMINISTRATION OF THOSE DRUGS TO THE PATIENT, DISPOSABLE WASTE AND, AND RETURN. CURRENTLY, WE HAVE 47 MEDICATIONS THAT WE CARRY, UM, AND THAT OUR PARAMEDICS, UH, B-L-S-A-L-S PROVIDERS CAN ADMINISTER. UH, THEY ARE IN VARIOUS FORMS, VARIOUS DOSAGES. UM, BASICALLY OUR DRUG KIT, OUT OF THOSE 47 MEDICATIONS, THERE'S UH, 100, APPROXIMATELY 100, UH, UNITS WITHIN THAT DRUG KIT. UH, EACH DRUG KIT CONTAINS A NARCO NARCOTIC PACK, WHICH CONTAINS FIVE DRUGS OR NINE UNITS. AND WE CURRENTLY MAINTAIN 10 DRUG KITS IN OUR RESPONSE SYSTEM. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE WORKED REGIONALLY TO EVALUATE WHAT SOFTWARE, WHAT UNIT IS OUT THERE FOR OUR, UM, ABILITY TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. UM, WE HAVE WORKED REGIONALLY IN THAT APPROACH, EVALUATED MULTIPLE VENDORS, UH, AND THE FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT HAS DECIDED TO MOVE WITH THE PYXIS MED BANK TOWER, UH, WHICH YOU'LL SEE ON, UM, THE NEXT PAGE. UM, WE HAVE EVALUATED THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH THE VENDOR IN REGION, UH, TO EVALUATE THAT COMPARED TO SIMILAR, UH, VENDORS. UH, [00:05:01] AND WE'VE OPTED WITH THE FIVE YEAR 60 MONTH LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THAT, WE'VE RECEIVED A 35% HARDWARE DISCOUNT OFF OF THE ACQUISITION PRICE. UH, THAT COMES WITH A BASIC OR STANDARD 24 HOUR SUPPORT AND A SOFTWARE PACKAGE, UM, TO SUPPORT THE TRACKING OF THESE MEDICATIONS, UH, ROUGHLY THAT BREAKS DOWN TO $642 A MONTH, UM, OR $7,704 A YEAR. UH, WE ARE NOT ANTICIPATING HAVING TO ASK THE BOARD FOR ANY FUNDS TO SUPPORT THAT. WE'RE GOING TO, UH, UTILIZE OUR COST RECOVERY FUNDS TO SUPPORT THAT, UM, MONTHLY, UH, FEE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. WE'RE GONNA PLACE THIS AT FRONT ROYAL STATION, ONE AS A CENTRAL ACCESS POINT WITH 24 7, 365 SECURITY, UH, FEATURES, UM, MONITORED ALARM SYSTEMS AS WELL AS VIDEO, UH, SURVEILLANCE. AND IT WILL HAVE LIMITED ACCESS BASED OFF OF CERTIFICATION LEVEL. UH, WE ARE SLATED TO BEGIN THAT SYSTEM BUILD PROCESS WITH THE VENDOR. UM, NEXT WEEK. UM, UH, WE'LL, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE FINAL SCHEDULE, BUT WE FULLY ANTICIPATE IT TO BE NEXT WEEK. UM, SO OUR OBJECTIVES MOVING FORWARD ON THE NEXT PAGE, UM, IS OUR DESIGNATED LOCATION. WE ULTIMATELY HAVE TO, UH, RECEIVE THE PYXIS UNIT AND GET THAT INSTALLED, INSTALL THE SECURITY FEATURES THAT STAFF HAS SELECTED TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AND AWAIT THE FINAL INSPECTION FROM THE BOARD OF PHARMACY TO RECEIVE OUR CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE REGULATION LICENSE. ONCE WE RECEIVE THAT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR OUR DEA LICENSE. THE DEA LICENSE ALLOWS US TO ORDER THE MEDICATIONS, UH, TO BASICALLY RECEIVE THE MEDICATIONS, UH, FROM A SELECTED VENDOR. AGAIN, WE'RE AWAITING THE FINAL INSPECTION FROM THE BOARD OF PHARMACY. UM, AND THEN WE WILL SIT, SUBMIT OUR DEA APPLICATION. UM, WE'LL, WE START, BEGIN WORKING THE PROCESS ON MEDICATION PROCUREMENT. WHERE ARE WE GONNA, UH, PURCHASE OUR MEDICATIONS FROM? UM, STAFF IS CURRENTLY PRICING ALL OF THAT OUT, TRYING TO SELECT THE APPROPRIATE VENDORS, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT REGIONAL APPROACH. UM, THAT'S STILL ON THE TABLE. WE'LL BE MEETING WITH OUR FINANCE TEAM AND PROCUREMENT TEAM, UH, TO NAVIGATE THAT IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. UM, OUR PYXIS IMPLEMENTATION, AS WE, UM, JUST DISCUSSED, UH, ONCE THAT'S COMPLETELY BUILT, WE'LL HAVE IT BASICALLY THE WORKFLOWS SET UP WE'LL, UH, ADMINISTER STAFF TRAINING AND ULTIMATELY, UH, HAVE IT READY FOR OUR INTERNAL GO LIVE DATE OF NOVEMBER 1ST. UH, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE A DATE THAT, THAT WAY WE HAVE THAT CUSHION BETWEEN NOVEMBER ONE TO NOVEMBER 27 WHEN WE ANTICIPATE, UM, EVERYTHING WILL CEASE. UM, I KNOW THAT WAS QUICK DOWN AND DIRTY, UH, WITH THAT, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. QUESTIONS, UH, I, UH, CHIEF, UH, UH, MATT, THE, UH, THE, SO THE, YOU'VE GONE OVER HOW MUCH IT WILL COST TO, TO MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM. WHAT ARE THE DRUGS THEMSELVES COST OR IS THERE A COST TO THOSE? THERE IS A COST TO THOSE. UM, WE GET 'EM, IT'S ANYWHERE FROM $2 A DOSE UP TO $200 A DOSE DEPENDING ON EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE PURCHASING. UM, STAFF CONTINUES TO ANALYZE WHAT THE, UH, THE CHEAPEST VENDOR THAT WE CAN GET CERTAIN DRUGS FROM. UH, WE CURRENTLY, UM, ESTIMATE THAT IF WE WERE TO REPLACE THE HUNDRED UNITS IN A DRUG BAG, WE'RE SOMEWHERE AROUND $3,000. JUST TO KIND OF PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, IS THAT COST CURRENTLY? IS THAT COST CURRENTLY IN THE SYSTEM AND WE'RE ALREADY COVERING THAT? OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE ADDITIONAL TO, IT'S GONNA BE ADDITIONAL RIGHT NOW THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING PROVIDED BY THE LOCAL HOSPITAL CENTER, UH, AT NO COST TO THE EMS AGENCY. SO WHEN THAT PROGRAM CEASES, WE'LL BEGIN ORDERING THOSE MEDICATIONS AND WE'LL HAVE TO INCUR THE COST OF THAT. SO, SO THEN THE, THE YEARLY 77 0 4, THAT MAY BE AS MUCH AS WHAT, UH, 10 OR $12,000 TOTAL WHEN YOU ADD IN THE, THE MEDICATIONS THAT 77,000 A YEAR IS JUST FOR THAT, UM, MED BANK TOWER, RIGHT? THAT'S THE, THE RENTAL AGREEMENT, ET CETERA. THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL COST AS IT RELATES TO THAT. OKAY. UM, WE'RE CERTAINLY NAVIGATING THAT. WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT MEDICATION COST WE ANTICIPATE LOOKING AT USAGE, BUT ALSO IMPORTANTLY LOOKING AT EXPIRATIONS. OKAY. RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE MORE MEDICATIONS EXPIRE OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR THAN WE'LL ACTUALLY ADMINISTER, ESPECIALLY LOOKING AT THE AMOUNT THAT WE CARRY. OKAY. SO WE CAN, WE, [00:10:01] WE WILL CERTAINLY, ONCE WE FEEL COMFORTABLE BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT TO YOU AND STAFF, UM, TRY TO SHOW WHAT A TRUE COST PROJECTION LOOKS LIKE. OKAY. THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME. DON'T YOU MEAN 7,700? OH, I'M SORRY. 7,700. WHAT? I SAY IT'S A THOUSAND. SEE, I JUST SAVED YOU A LOT OF MONEY. DID, DID I UNDERSTAND THIS, UH, UH, THE WAY THIS, THIS PYXIS MED BANK TOWER BE SET UP IN ONE LOCATION, SO EVERY EMS CALL THAT BREAKS INTO THEIR BOX OR WHATEVER WOULD BE COMING BACK TO ONE CORRECT. AND THEN GOING BACK OUT? YEAH. SO THEY'LL LEAVE THE HOSPITAL CENTER, THEY'LL REPORT TO FIRE STATION ONE, THEY'LL ACCESS THE MEDICATION EXCHANGE CABINET. UM, THEY WILL DO THE TRANSFER OF THEIR DRUG AT THAT LOCATION. THEN THEY WILL RETURN BACK TO THEIR HOME STATION AND, AND, AND BE READILY AVAILABLE FOR SERVICE. OKAY. AND THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IMPACTS IS IMPACTFUL I GUESS. YEAH. AND STAFF CONTINUES TO WORK ON OUR POLICY DEVELOPMENT. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT IS IF I USE, UM, AN ALBUTEROL ON A DIFFICULTY BREATHING PATIENT, CAN I STILL RESPOND TO THE DIABETIC CALL? THAT MAY BE THE NEXT CALL FOR SERVICE, RIGHT. HISTORICALLY, RIGHT NOW, IF MY DRUG BOX IS CRACKED OPEN AND STAFF USE DRUGS, THEY CONSIDER THEMSELVES OUTTA SERVICE UNTIL THEY DO A DRUG RESTOCK. THAT'S BECAUSE THAT DRUG RESTOCK OCCURS WITHIN FIVE TO 10 MINUTES OF BEING AT THE HOSPITAL. UH, QUITE FRANKLY, THEY GET THE DRUG RESTOCKED BEFORE THE MEDIC UNIT'S CLEANED. RIGHT. SO, UH, WE ARE CERTAINLY LOOKING AND EVALUATING WHAT OUTTA SERVICE OR DOWN TIMES LOOK LIKE FOR OUR UNITS. MM-HMM. , UH, THAT IS CHIEF BONNO AND, AND, AND I'S BIGGEST FEAR ON WHAT THIS MAY DO TO OUT SERVICE TIMES, UH, BUT WHERE STAFF IS WORKING DILIGENTLY ON POLICY DEVELOPMENT AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW WE CAN MINIMIZE WHAT THAT DOWNTIME AND OUTTA SERVICE TIME LOOKS LIKE. YEAH. SO JUST JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, IT'S NOT A DIRECT CARRYOVER OF YOU'RE AT A HOSPITAL, THEY GIVE YOU A WHOLE NEW BOX AND YOU'RE COMPLETELY WHOLE, YOU HAVE ACTUALLY DISCRETION ABOUT WHAT YOU USED OUTTA THE BOX. SO YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO BACK TO NUMBER ONE. YOU CAN KEEP BEING IN SERVICE BASED ON INVENTORY. YOU'LL EVENTUALLY HAVE TO GO BACK TO EVENTUALLY YEAH, EVENTUALLY FOR A ONE, FOR ONE EXCHANGE. SO IT WILL REALLY BE BASED OFF OF WHAT MEDICATION YOU USED VERSUS WHAT THE NEXT CALL FOR SERVICE IS. YEAH. AND DO YOU HAVE THOSE DRUGS READILY AVAILABLE? DO YOU HAVE A HIGHER BAR OF KEEPING TRACK OF WHATEVER YOU USED AND THAT'S CORRECT. EVALUATING WHETHER YOU NEED TO GO BACK TO THE TOWER OR NOT GO BACK THE TOWER, ALL THAT THAT, YEP. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE WORKING ON POLICY WISE? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. MURPHY'S LAW IS THE ONE TIME YOU DO THAT, THAT'S THE DRUG YOU NEED AB A HUNDRED PERCENT. IS THERE ONLY ONE EACH IN THERE OR ARE THERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, SAY SOMETHING COMMON? UH, LIKE, UH, I DUNNO, UH, TYLENOL LIKE THAT? THEY HAVE VERY GOOD QUESTION. YEAH. SO RIGHT NOW WE CARRY BASICALLY MINIMUM DOSAGES IN OUR DRUG KITS. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF IS LOOKING AT IS DO WE INCREASE THE AMOUNT WE CARRY OF THE COMMONLY USED DRUGS? SO THE ALBUTEROL AND ATRA EVENT, DO WE CARRY ENOUGH TO HANDLE TWO, TWO PATIENTS VERSUS ONE? UH, BUT ULTIMATELY WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IF I CARRY MORE, THAT'S MORE THAT'S POTENTIALLY GOING TO EXPIRE. UM, SO WE'LL PROBABLY END UP BEEFING THAT UP TO START THEN AS WE GET DOWN THE ROAD AND ARE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE DATA AND THE USAGE NUMBERS, UM, TRY TO ADJUST ACCORDINGLY. BUT ABSOLUTELY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, IT WAS PROBABLY ALREADY MENTIONED, BUT, BUT UM, SO WE HAVE TO BUY DRUGS, BUT IS THERE ANY NOTION OF THE BUDGET EXPECTED FOR AN ANNUAL OUTLAY FOR THE BUDGET FOR THE DRUGS WE HAVE TO BUY, WHICH WE PREVIOUSLY WEREN'T LAYING OUT CASH FOR? UM, A NOTION. SO THE NOTION IS, IS CURRENTLY THIS YEAR, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID IS, UH, FLEET WIDE FUEL HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN IN A COST RECOVERY BUDGET TO OFFICE. AND IT WAS RECENTLY MOVED TO THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET, UM, TO OFFSET SOME OF THE BUDGETARY EXPENDITURES. WE REABSORBED THAT BACK INTO THE COST RECOVERY BUDGET BASED OFF OF THAT, WE MAY HAVE TO ASK THE BOARD TO SHIFT THINGS OUT OF THE COST RECOVERY BUDGET TO PAY FOR THE MEDICATION. BUT RIGHT NOW, UNTIL WE REALLY LOOK AT, 'CAUSE OUR ENVISION IS TO UTILIZE THE COST RECOVERY PROGRAM TO FUND THIS. UM, BUT THE MORE WE FUND OUT OF THE COST RECOVERY BUDGET, OUR, IT'S THE LESS OF THE SPECIAL PROJECTS OR PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE. SO OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO BE A FISCAL IMPACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT. WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE OVER THE ANNUAL, [00:15:01] YOU KNOW, OUR COST PROJECTIONS. UM, VALLEY HEALTH HAS BEEN ABLE TO SAY, OH, WE GAVE YOU X NUMBER OF DOLLARS OF MEDICATION LAST YEAR. UM, SO WE TAKE THAT NUMBER, WE CALCULATE THAT BASED OFF OF USAGE. WE LOOK AT CURRENT PRICING. UM, THEN ALSO TOO, WHAT IS THE, AS WITH ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW THAT THE EPI SAGA, RIGHT? SO WHEN WE LOOK AT, UH, EPIPENS, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE THINGS THAT WE CARRY IN OUR FLEET AND WE CARRY TWO PER, UH, MEDIC UNIT AS AN EXAMPLE. SO THE AUTO-INJECTORS. UM, SO WE CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THAT, YES, IT'S GONNA BE A FISCAL COST. UM, AND YOU DON'T HAVE A NOTION 'CAUSE YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GONNA BUY IT, RIGHT? YOU'RE LOOKING AT REGIONAL CONSORTIUMS AND VARIOUS THINGS MEAN CORRECT REGIONAL AND BASICALLY GOT IT NARROWED DOWN TO TWO GENDER. SO YOU DON'T WANNA SAY A NUMBER 'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT SOMEONE TAGGING YOU WITH THAT NUMBER. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU A NUMBER AND THAT NUMBER BE WRONG. ALL RIGHT. , I THINK HE, I THINK HE QUOTED 77,000 EARLIER. WELL, I THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK. YOU GOT A CHECK? SO, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. JUST ONE LAST COMMENT. UM, SO WILL YOU HAVE A GOOD FEEL OF AN ESTIMATE BEFORE WE, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GET INTO FISCAL YEAR 26? YES. AB ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE THAT STARTS WITHIN IN ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO MONTHS. THE BUDGET PROCESS. YES. YEAH, A HUNDRED PERCENT. ONCE WE, ONCE WE START THE ONE, THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, ONCE WE START THE NOTION OF, UH, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WHILE I KNOW WE HAVE THIS CABINET COMING, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR ON HAND STOCK WILL BE AS FAR AS HOW MANY ASPIRINS DO I NEED TO CARRY, HOW MANY TYLENOLS DO I NEED TO CARRY, ET CETERA. RIGHT? SO YES, I THINK ONCE WE START THE BUDGETARY PROCESS, WE'LL HAVE A REALLY GOOD FEELING OF CAN WE ABSORB IT INTO COST RECOVERY BUDGET OR ARE WE GONNA BE REQUESTING MORE? THANK YOU. OKAY. TIME IS SHORT, SO I'LL HOLD MY QUESTIONS TO ANOTHER TIME, BUT, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK Y'ALL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND SO I WANNA WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2024 BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING. IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE IT'S SEPTEMBER 17TH ALREADY. UM, AT THIS TIME WE WILL HAVE, UH, REVEREND JOHNSON DO OUR PRAYER AND HE'S ALSO GONNA HAVE A LITTLE SPECIAL PRESENTATION AFTER WE, UH, CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. THANK YOU, SIR, FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. I HOPE THAT LAST SENTENCE YOU SAID WASN'T THE DIRECTION TO ME. 'CAUSE I'M HARDLY HEARING NOW AND I DIDN'T HEAR WORDS. YOU SAID , THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO REPRESENT OUR LORD HERE AND TO PRAY AND UNTO THE PEOPLE, BOW YOUR HEADS, OUR LORD, WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY IN A REPUBLIC TO COME BEFORE YOU AND EXPRESS OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU, OUR GOD. LORD, WE ASK YOU TO BEHOLD YOUR PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY, WHEREVER THEY MAY BE THIS NIGHT IN THEIR HOMES, ON THEIR FARMS AND THEIR BUSINESSES, BEHOLD THEM LORD, GRACIOUSLY FOR THE CHILDREN THAT WILL BE IN SCHOOL TOMORROW. LORD, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU WOULD BEHOLD THEM, KEEP THEM SAFE FROM ALL HARM AND DANGER AND BRING UNTO THEM TEACHERS THAT ARE INSPIRATIONAL AND TEACH AND OUR CHILDREN BE IN A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN, THEY CAN LEARN. LORD IS NOTHING ANYMORE THAN OUR CHILDREN IN THIS LAND. AND SO, LORD, WE READ DOUBLE AND ASK THAT YOU WOULD ESPECIALLY PROTECT OUR CHILDREN FOR THE INDUSTRY IN THIS COUNTY. LORD, WE GIVE THANKS FOR IT. AND FOR THAT WHICH IS COMING, UH, TO US, WE GIVE THANKS THAT IT WILL BE PROPERLY DEVELOPED AND NOURISHED AND ENCOURAGED TO GROW IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY. AND LORD, ESPECIALLY NOW FOR THE PEOPLE THAT SIT BEHIND ME THAT HAVE COME HERE TO TRANSACT BUSINESS BEFORE THIS, UH, DEMOCRATIC BODY, WE WOULD ASK AND GIVE THANKS THAT THIS OPPORTUNITY IS AFFORDED TO US. BECAUSE IN SO MANY PLACES, IT IS NOT. AND LORD, FOR THOSE THAT SIT BEFORE US, THAT WE HAVE ELECTED TO GOVERN US, WE LIFT THEM UP FOR YOUR PROTECTION, PROTECT THEM FROM ALL HARM AND DANGER, CAUSE OUR PEOPLE TO RESPECT THEM AND TO BRING TO THEM THEIR IDEAS, DIFFERENCES AS WELL AS AGREEMENTS. AND NOW, LORD, AS WE GO INTO THE REST OF THIS NIGHT, REMIND US, LORD, THAT WE LIVE IN THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. BEHOLD THIS LAND, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WHICH MEN AND WOMEN IN THE BEGINNING BROUGHT US OUR FREEDOMS AND ALL OF THESE THANKS LORD. WE LIFT UP UNTO YOU AND WE PRAY IN THE NAME OF OUR SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST. AMEN. AMEN. AND REVEREND JOHNSON, [00:20:01] IF YOU WOULD STAY [C. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America] UP HERE AND IF YOUR GRANDDAUGHTER BAKER WOULD COME UP AND LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I'D APPRECIATE THAT. AND IF EVERYONE WOULD STAND, YOU CAN START US OFF, SWEETIE. I TO THE FLAG. FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION, INDIVISIBLE, LIBERTY, ALL. OKAY, I CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. AND REVEREND [D. Presentation and Dedication of Historic American Documents to the Board of Supervisors - Reverend Larry Johnson ] JOHNSON, I WILL TURN THE PRE WELL BAKER GRACE HAS ATTRACTED A CROWD AND THE CROWD WILL NOW ENTER THE ROOM AS HER HONOR GUARD, MARK, HONOR MARK, ROLL GUARD. OH, RIGHT FACE, FACE TO MUSIC. WHAT ARMS? I LIKE TO SAY A WORD ABOUT THESE MEN AND THE OTHER MEN THAT ARE PART OF THE SONS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, THE JAMES WOOD CHAPTER. UM, MANY FOLKS DO NOT KNOW THE, UH, THE ASSET AND ASSETS THAT THESE MEN AND OTHERS BRING TO OUR COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF THE TEACHING OF HISTORY, THE HONORING OF OUR FOREFATHERS, AND OF COURSE PUBLICIZING THE FACT AS TO WHO WE ARE HERE AS CITIZENS OF WARREN COUNTY. AND, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE PRESIDENT OR PAST PRESIDENT MARK ROBES ROBINSON TO SAY A WORD. WHAT DO YOU NEED? MY NAME IS MARK ROBINSON ON BEHALF OF WILLIAM BRIEF, THE PRESIDENT OF THE VIRGINIA SOCIETY'S SONS AND AMERICAN REVOLUTION. AND IN PARTICULAR, COLONEL JAMES WOODS. SECOND CHAPTER, I BRING YOU GREEN. AND WE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO ATTEND YOUR MEETING. AND WE THANK YOU FOR PUTTING UP WITH OUR GOOD FRIEND, PAST PRESIDENT REVEREND LARRY JOHNSON. AND IF HE, UH, TALKS TOO MUCH TONIGHT, LET US KNOW. WE'LL DRAG HIM OFF STAGE. OKAY. YOU'LL BE HERE. THANKS FOR THAT LAST PLUG THERE. UH, MARK. UM, I'D LIKE FOR BAKER TO COME FORWARD HERE AND I'D LIKE THAT, I'D LIKE TO ASK AT LEAST TWO OR THREE OF THE BOARD OF SUPER WELL MAYBE ALL TO COME DOWN. AND WE'D LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. AND AS YOU ASSEMBLE HERE IN FRONT FACING THE HONOR GUARD, I'LL EXPLAIN WHAT THIS IS. NEARLY 15 YEARS AGO, UM, I BECAME PRESIDENT OF THE SONS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. AND ONE OF MY MISSIONS CALLED TWO WAS TO TEACH OUR CHILDREN ABOUT THE VIRTUES AND THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE AS A COUNTRY. AND I HAVE SPOKEN IN MANY DIFFERENT PLACES, SEVERAL DIFFERENT STATES NOW, AND CERTAINLY HERE IN WARREN COUNTY AND ALL OF OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS, ALONG WITH MY COLLEAGUES HERE, THE SONS OF AMERICAN REVOLUTION. AND THERE ARE NO SMALL STUFF. UH, MARK, HOW MANY YEARS HAVE YOU BEEN THE NATION'S OUTSTANDING CHAPTER? UH, WE'VE PROBABLY WON SIX OR SEVEN YEARS IN A ROW, UH, AS THE VERY BEST LARGE CHAPTER IN THE COUNTRY. SO YOU SEE, YOU HAVE AN ASSET HERE IN THIS COUNTY BRINGING HISTORY TO US, EXCITEMENT AND THE WORD ABOUT WARREN COUNTY. AND NOW I WOULD LIKE TO ASK BAKKER TO STEP IN FRONT OF THE PODIUM AND TO GIVE TO OUR CHAIRPERSON. THE FIRST DOCUMENT WE ARE GIVING THIS, WE ARE GIVING THIS TO THE COUNTY BECAUSE LIBERTY VAN, OVER THE YEARS AND MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE HAVE BEEN TEACHING THE CONSTITUTION AND NOWHERE IN THIS COUNTY HANGS A VISIBLE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. THAT'S THE FIRST DOCUMENT. I TALKED TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ABOUT THIS AND HE MENTIONED THAT IT MIGHT BE FRAME. I HOPE THAT'S STILL IN THE WORKS. UH, AND I'D LIKE FOR A SECOND SUPERVISOR TO COME FORWARD AND TO HOLD THIS DOCUMENT, THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. AND I'D LIKE ANOTHER SUPERVISOR [00:25:01] TO COME BOARD TO HOLD THE BILL OF RIGHTS. I WOULD BE FLATTERED IF YOU HUNG IT IN HERE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD PLACE FOR IT TO BE. I THINK IT SHOULD BE WHERE THE PEOPLE WALK PAST IT AND THEY CAN COME AND THEY CAN READ IT. PERHAPS TAKE A TOUR, YOU KNOW, LIKE A TOUR GUIDE. YOU COULD LEAVE LITTLE TOURS DOWN HERE ON THE DOCUMENTS. ONE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS THAT IT'S ALL IN CURSIVE, AND I WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT. I REALLY WOULD. I WOULD GET IT PRINTED, SOMETHING PRINTED IN BLOCK, PUT RIGHT NEXT TO THE CURSOR SO IT COULD BE VERY EASILY READ. NOW, BAKER'S WANTED TO GIVE TO YOU A FIGHT THAT LIBERTY MAN HAS CARRIED WITH THEM FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS, THAT YOU WILL FOLD THOSE DOCUMENTS UNTIL THEY ARE PROPERLY ERECTED OVER DOUBT, UNTIL THEY ARE PROPERLY ERECTED WHEN YOU FOLD IT. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO FOLD IT INTO THIS SLIDE. OKAY. THAT FLAG HAS BEEN WITH ME TO TEACH THOUSANDS OF KIDS, AND I WANT THAT TO GO ON AND OTHER PEOPLE WILL PICK IT UP. MEN HERE ARE ALREADY DOING IT, AND I'M NOT, HAVEN'T GONE ANY PLACE YET, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY HEAR THE CHAIR WHEELS, THE DISTANCE, PLEASE. THIS RIGHT HERE, SHE'S CHAIRPERSON. AND ONE FINAL WORD ABOUT BAKER GRACE JOHNSON. BAKER GRACE WAS IN THE FIRST GRADE THREE YEARS, AND, UH, OBVIOUSLY WORKING FROM HER FIRST GRADE TEACHER THAT BAKER HAD SUGGESTED THAT HER GRANDFATHER COME TO SCHOOL AND TELL HER CLASSMATES ABOUT WHAT HER FAMILY DID IN THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. AND THAT WAS MORRISON. SHE'S QUITE A LEADER. SHE WILL BE EMBARRASSED HOW SHE'S A JOHNSON. JUST ABSORB IT. GO ON. RIGHT. AND, UH, SINCE THAT TIME EACH YEAR, I, I GO BACK TO HIM. HE WANTS TO TO SPEAK TO THE FIRST RAIDERS. AND IN THIS CHILD RIGHT HERE, THERE IS THE, THE GENES AND THE BLOOD OF EIGHT GENERATIONS OF AMERICAN REVOLUTIONARY WAR SOLDIERS IN HER FAMILY. RIGHT HERE, DOWN TO ONE LITTLE GIRL LIVES RIGHT HERE AMONG US. AND SO, AND SHE HAS, SHE HAS THE SPIRIT. THANK YOU FOR INDULGING ME. UH, TO THIS DAY, I THANK MY COLLEAGUES HERE FOR COMING AND BEING AN HONOR GUARD. I THANK CHRIS FOR TAKING PICTURES AND, UH, ADMINISTRATOR FOR HIS ENCOURAGEMENT. CALLED HIM SOMETIME AGO AND TALKED ABOUT THIS AND, AND NOW DISCLOSE WITH THE BLESSING. AND NOW TO GOD, FATHER GOD SON GOD. GIFTS TO BE A STRIP, ALL MAJE POWER REMAIN ONE GOD. GLORY WITHOUT HIM. AMEN. ALRIGHT, SHOULDER YOUR F LEGS. RIGHT FACE LOWER WATCH. WE'RE GOING HOME NOW. BEFORE YOU GO TOO FAR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO TO EDUCATE THE CHILDREN AND THE ADULTS. CAN YOU, NOPE, HE DIDN'T. THEY'LL PASS IT ALONG TO HIM NOW. OKAY. SURE. HE ALMOST MADE ME CRY THERE TALKING ABOUT CHARIOT WHEELS. DON'T LIKE TO HEAR THAT. OKAY. [E. Adoption of Agenda – Additions or Deletions] ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA, UH, AS PRESENTED WITH THE ADDITION OF, UM, [00:30:02] UM, ITEM K 14 TO THE CURRENT, TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, FOR CITIZEN APPOINTMENT TO THE DSS ADVISORY BOARD. ANY OTHER ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION? UH, SECOND TO, UM, MR. BUTLER'S MOTION. SECOND ROLL CALL. MR. HENDERSON. MRS. COOK? AYE. DR. JAMESON? AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. MR. BUTLER? AYE. MR. STAN MEYER? AYE. OKAY. PUBLIC COMMENT, [F. Public Comment Period (60 Minute Time Limit)] ALL COMMENTS WILL BE DIRECTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, NOT TO THE AUDIENCE. BE CONSIDERATE OF YOUR FELLOW SPEAKERS. THERE SHOULD BE NO APPLAUSE, BOOING OR OTHER AUDIBLE DISRUPTION TO THE PROCEEDING. THROUGH A SHOW OF HANDS, THE CHAIRMAN MAY ASK FOR A SHOW OF SUPPORT FOR COMMENTS MADE BY SPEAKERS. PLACARDS, POSTERS, AND OTHER MEANS OF VISUAL DISPLAY OF COMMENTS WILL NOT BE PERMITTED IN THE MEETING ROOM. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE INFORMATION OR MATERIALS USED AS PART OF A FACTUAL PRESENTATION. THE BOARD WILL NOT TOLERATE PERSONAL ATTACKS BY ANYONE ON ANY OF THE PARTICIPANTS AND ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THIS WILL BE ASKED TO LEAVE. UM, THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER, IF YOU WILL SAY YOUR NAME AND THE DISTRICT YOU LIVE IN. AND MR. HENDERSON, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP? FIRST UP IS ANDREW HAMAN. MY NAME IS ANDREW DUNHILL HYMAN. I'M A CONSTITUENT FROM SOUTH RIVER DISTRICT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. WOULD YOU PLEASE PROVIDE THESE TWO COPIES TO THE BOARD? MADAM CHAIRMAN, FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, IT'S AN HONOR TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT. I WILL TRY TO KEEP THIS SUCCINCT. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL INTO OUR ATTENTION TO TAB A AMENDMENT ONE TO THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. MOST PEOPLE CALL THIS FREEDOM OF SPREE, PRESS AND RELIGION. HOWEVER, IT ALSO GIVES ME THE RIGHT TO PETITION THE GOVERNMENT FOR REDRESS OF A GRIEVANCE. SO I ASK IF I TAKE MORE THAN THREE MINUTES TO GET THROUGH MY PACKET THAT YOU ALLOW THAT I ALSO CALL ATTENTION TO AMENDMENT SEVEN AND 14 TO THE US CONSTITUTION. I'LL GET TO WHY I AM CALLING YOUR ATTENTION TO THESE, BUT BASICALLY IT ALLOWS ME IN SUITS AT COMMON LAW TO ASK FOR REMUNERATION. AND SECTION ONE OF AMENDMENT 14 STATES DOWN AND ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF THE PARAGRAPH, ANY STATE NOR SHALL ANY STATE DEPRIVE ANY PERSON OF LIFE, LIBERTY, OR PROPERTY WITHOUT DUE PROCESS. SO LAW, NOT DENY ANY PERSON WITHIN ITS JURISDICTION EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAW. ADDITIONALLY, AT TAB B, YOU WILL FIND ARTICLE COPIES OF ARTICLE ONE, THE BILL OF RIGHTS FROM THE CONSTITUTION, THE STATE OF VIRGINIA UNDER SECTION ONE. IT'S EQUAL RIGHTS OF MEN, THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED NATURALLY, EQUALLY BY NATURE, EQUALLY FREE. I'LL LET YOU READ THE REST, BUT I'M INVOKING THAT AS WELL AS SECTION 11 OF OUR STATE'S CONSTITUTION, WHICH SAYS, I'M NOT TO BE DEPRIVED OF HIS LIFE, LIBERTY OF PROPERTY WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OF LAW. SO THAT IS MY REASON FOR STANDING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. THIS IS MIGHT SEEM AT FACE VALUE. VERY SIMPLE. IT'S A NAMING OF A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY TO A ROAD. SO ALLOW ME TO GO THROUGH MY PERSONAL BACKGROUND. MY WIFE AND I ARE BOTH OFFICERS OF THE UNITED STATES ARMY AND RETIRED RESERVE STATUS. WE HAVE BOTH SERVED TOURS IN HOSTILE FIRE ZONES. I ON FIVE CONTINENTS, MY WIFE ON THREE. WE ARE BOTH RETIRED CIVIL SERVANTS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WE'RE BOTH COMPENSABLE DISABLED VETERANS. I DON'T WEAR A UNIFORM HERE, I DON'T WEAR THIS ON MY SLEEVE. I FIGURED THAT I SHOULD MENTION IT BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE EARNED OUR RIGHTS IN DEFENSE OF THE NATION IN SERVICE TO IT. WE BOUGHT THESE SMALL 15 ACRES UP HERE BACK IN FEBRUARY, 2021. AND WE TRIED TO START AN ORCHARD, WHICH IS PRETTY TOUGH WHEN YOU'RE FACING ALL THE BUGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WANTS TO EAT YOUR TREES. WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO RESTORE THE AGRICULTURE AND TIMBER TAX STATUS OF THE PROPERTY AND ABATE THE EROSION. IF YOU LOOK AT TAB C, PAGE ONE, YOU'LL SEE AN AERIAL PHOTO, WHICH I GRABBED OFF OF GOOGLE MAPS THAT SHOWS THE PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY [00:35:01] TO MY NORTH, WHICH IS THE BRANSON PROPERTY WITH WHAT THEY BASICALLY CLEARED AND GRUBBED GREATER THAN TWO ACRES WITHOUT PROPER EROSION CONTROL. AND IT CREATE A, UH, NOT TO BE OVERLY HISTRIONIC, A RED HOT MESS ON THE PROPERTY. SO I'VE BEEN WORKING TO GET STUFF TO GROW GROUND COVER ABATE THE EROSION. BUT THOSE TWO PICTURES ON PAGE ONE AND TWO OF TAB C SHOW THAT A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE EFFECT OF THIS EROSION IS, IS ON PAGE THREE OF TAB C. IT SHOWS THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS UNDER QUESTION AT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WATER COMES DOWN LIKE IT NORMALLY DOES IN BUCKETS WHEN IT RAINS UP HERE. PAGE FOUR OF TAB C SHOWS A COMPOSITE TO TOPOGRAPHICAL MAP OF THE AREA. IT'S A COMBINATION OF THE CHESTER GAP AND BENTONVILLE MAP SHEETS FROM THE US GEOLOGICAL SURVEY. AND ON THAT YOU CAN SEE WHERE THERE IS A NUMBER OF 845 ON THAT MAP PAST THE SECOND HAIRPIN TURN. AND YOU'LL SEE WHERE THE DRIVEWAY COMES DOWN. THAT IS ON THE MAP, THE DRIVEWAY THAT IS IN QUESTION ABOUT ROAD NAMING. SO I'VE MET WITH MR. WENDLING, WHO'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL, BUT WE'VE MET A NUMBER OF TIMES SINCE APRIL OF 2001. WHEN I FIRST MET HIM IN PERS AND DURING THOSE ENCOUNTERS, HE ALWAYS SAID IT WAS NO PRIVATE ROAD UNTIL A FOURTH FOUNDATION WAS POURED. AND THEN THAT WENT ON UNTIL AUGUST OF THIS YEAR WHEN I NOTICED ON THE GIS SYSTEM, A PLACEHOLDER NAME ON THE ROAD. AND I INQUIRED AS TO WHAT WAS GOING ON AND WAS INFORMED THAT WE HAD TO NAME THE ROAD OR DRIVEWAY 'CAUSE IT'S A DRIVEWAY TO ME RIGHT NOW, NOT A ROAD. SO RELATIVE TO THE FOUNDATIONS NUMBER FOUR, UNDER C, THE PREVIOUS OWNERS, THEY SUBDIVIDED TAX MAP 37 DASH 56 AND THEY POURED A FOUNDATION ON 37 56 B AND THEY ESSENTIALLY STOPPED WORK. AND A TAB D IS SELECT PAGES OUT OF THE CONSTRUCTION PERMIT DETAILED REPORT FROM YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT SHOWS THAT WORK WHEN THE WORK STARTED AND WHEN IT ENDED. SIR, COULD I STOP YOU JUST A SECOND? I, I WANNA RESPECT YOUR MILITARY SERVICE AND THE THINGS THAT YOU QUOTED, BUT I ALSO HAVE TO RESPECT OKAY. YOU KNOW, OUR POLICIES. HOW MUCH LONGER DO YOU THINK YOU'LL BE AND COULD YOU I WILL CUT TO THE END, MA'AM. OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. SO IF YOU'LL GO TO, YOU CAN READ THIS AND IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS, THE BOARD MAY CONTACT ME PERSONALLY. I'M EASY TO CONTACT. I BELIEVE THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES TO NAMING THE PRIVATE DRIVEWAY. ALRIGHT. UH, ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, I BELIEVE IT'S MR. BUTLER, ASKED WHAT THE GENESIS OF THE ROAD WAS AND THE NAMING OF IT, UH, JOCKEY HOLLOW LANE COMES FROM THE NAME OF THE NATIONAL HISTORIC PARK IN MENDHAM AND MORRIS TOWNSHIP, MORRISTOWN NEW JERSEY. IT'S WHERE OUR CONTINENTAL ARMY OVER WINTERED AFTER THE BATTLES OF TRENTON IN PRINCETON, AND AGAIN IN THE WINTER OF 18 OF 1779 AND 80, WHERE THEY ENDURED THEIR HARDEST WINTER. UH, I GREW UP IN MENDO TOWNSHIP. UH, OUR HOUSE WHERE WE GREW UP WAS LESS THAN A HALF MILE AWAY FROM THE WESTERNMOST OUTPOST THAT GUARDED THE FLANK TO THE WEST OF JOCKEY HOLLOW. MY REQUEST TO THE BOARD IS SIMPLY PUT THAT YOU PERMANENTLY WAIVE THE ROAD NAMING REQUIREMENT FOR PERMANENT FOUNDA FOR THE THREE FOUNDATIONS THAT YOU EMBARGO FURTHER DEVELOPMENT UPON TAX MAP 37, 56 AND 37, 56 B UNTIL SUCH A TIME AS THE OWNERS OBTAIN A SEPARATE EASEMENT. WHY? THAT'S WHAT THE PREVIOUS OWNER, PRIOR TO THE BRACA ROMNEY SAID THEY INTENDED TO DO. AND THAT WAS THE WHOLE PREMISE IN WHICH I AGREED TO BUY THE PROPERTY THAT THEY WERE GONNA FIND A SEPARATE EASEMENT. I, IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY. I WON'T BELABOR THE BOARD WITH THAT. THE SITE THAT THE GUEST HOUSE WAS BUILT ON, THERE'S A PICTURE OF IT IN THE ATTACHED THAT'S DERELICT. THEY DIDN'T BUILD POOR FOUNDATION. ONLY ONE FOREIGN [00:40:01] NATION'S BEEN POURED UP THERE. AND THE HOUSE IS PARTIALLY COMPLETE. THE COUNTY ORDINANCE SAYS THAT, UH, OCCUPANCY PERMITS FOR HOUSES WON'T BE ISSUED UNTIL THE ROAD IS NAMED. SO, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY EXPLICIT INSTRUCTION, I'M ASKING THAT YOU LET US CONTINUE TO HAVE OUR OCCUPANCY PERMITS FOR 2235 AND 2245. I WOULD, UM, LIKE TO OFFER TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND YOUR WIFE AND MR. WINDLEY. IT'S MY NEIGHBOR, MA'AM. MY WIFE IS IN DISPOSES. OKAY. UM, YOUR NEIGHBOR. I'M HAPPY TO YIELD THE FLOOR, MADAM CHAIRMAN. AND I WOULD, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO MR. WENDLING TO SET THAT UP AND I'LL BE GLAD YOU'RE IN MY DISTRICT. YES, MA'AM. SO, UM, AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE TIME YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN TO ME AND WHEN IT COMES TO US. THANK YOU, MA'AM. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE THAT YOUR NEXT UH, NEXT UP IS JEANETTE WINGETT WING. OH, IS IT OKAY IF I JUST STAND HERE? IF YOU WANNA JUST RADIATE WHAT HE SAID OR IF YOU, YOU CAN HAVE THREE MINUTES, MY OWN LITTLE THING. THEN UP AT THE PODIUM IT GETS RECORDED AND BECAUSE YOU'RE UP THERE, UM, THE SOUND IS BETTER. YOU'LL DO FINE. I HAPPEN TO BE THE PROPERTY. YOUR NAME. OH, MY NAME IS JEANETTE WINGETT. I'M A SOUTH RIVER DISTRICT CONSTITUENT. I AM THE OWNER OF 2 2 1 9 BUCK MOUNTAIN ROAD. THE DRIVEWAY THAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO MAKE A PRIVATE ROAD ACTUALLY IS ACCESSED THROUGH MY LAND. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED 'CAUSE I'VE NEVER BEEN CONTACTED ABOUT DOING THIS AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE EASEMENT. CURRENTLY IT IS 12 FEET. I HOPE IF THEY MAKE IT A PRIVATE ROAD, IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE. I HAVE NO INTENTION TO MAKE IT BIGGER. I'VE BEEN ASKED IN THE PAST. I DO NOT WANT TONS OF TRAFFIC UP AND DOWN ON MY PROPERTY. AND I'M JUST, I'M FEELING REALLY ANNOYED ABOUT THIS. I THINK I HAVE RIGHTS AS A PROPERTY OWNER AND I REALLY THINK THAT I SHOULD HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT THIS WAS GOING ON. AND THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU. NEXT, MR. HENDERSON. NEXT UP IS DREW BAGLEY. GOOD EVENING. DREW BAGLEY, NORTH RIVER. I'VE SPOKEN TO EVERYBODY HERE ABOUT THE GUN RANGE, UH, THE PROPOSED GUN RANGE TRAINING FACILITY. NOW, UM, THE MOST RECENT INFORMATION WAS BASED OFF OF OPINION ON A PAPER, NOT FACTUAL INFORMATION THAT WE ALL WANTED. UM, I'VE PROVIDED EVERYBODY WITH FACTUAL INFORMATION AND ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THAT IT WAS BEING ASKED OF THAT PLACE, BENTONVILLE TRANSFER STATION. ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS IS SAFETY, UM, WHICH CLEARLY HAS BEEN THROWN OUT THE WINDOW, BUT 67 FEET IS NOT SAFE. UM, WE'VE MENTIONED NOISE ORDINANCE CHAPTER 1 23, WHICH WILL BE BROKEN AT THAT DISTANCE, WHICH WE'VE CONDUCTED THE SOUND TESTS ONE 19 AND ONE 14 WITH ONE RIFLE AND THREE PISTOLS. SO WE'RE AUTOMATICALLY BREAKING A CODE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ENFORCED BY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IF THEY'RE BREAKING THEIR OWN CODE. NEXT PERSON TO CALL THE STATE POLICE. UM, I'VE REACHED OUT TO MULTIPLE AGENCIES, UH, VIRGINIA SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION, THE COMMISSION I'VE REACHED OUT TO THE ACCREDITATION IN WHICH SHERIFF'S OFFICE RECEIVES GRANTS FOR OTHER PROJECTS AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL PAY FOR THE SHERIFF. SO I'M TAKING EVERY AVENUE OF APPROACH TO ENSURE THAT MY FAMILY'S LAND IS NOT BEING ENCROACHED UPON, WHETHER IT BE BY FIRING NOISE, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, THAT WE ALL KNOW THIS IS NOT THE BEST AND SAFEST LOCATION WE'VE SEEN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING THE WELLS TO MONITOR WATER. IF WE ALL SIT HERE AND SAY, HEY, THE LEAD IS ALREADY IN THE WATER. IT JUST DOESN'T STOP. 'CAUSE WE NOTICED IT, IT AFFECTS EVERYBODY DOWNSTREAM. SO WE NEED BETTER BASIS OFF OF WHY WE'RE CHOOSING THIS LOCATION. WHY 67 FEET'S GOOD ENOUGH, WHY THE NOISE ORDINANCE DOESN'T APPLY TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO APPRECIATIVE. BUT WE HAVE ALL THIS INFORMATION THAT WE'VE PROVIDED THAT SHOWS THIS IS NOT THE BEST SUITED LOCATION. I MYSELF CREATED THE SHOOTING RANGE IN ANOTHER LOCATION AND PRESENTED THAT, REBUILT THE WHOLE THING IN A MAPPING SYSTEM FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE. IT WAS DEEMED THAT THERE WAS A QUARTER ACRE POND THAT WAS RESTRICTING THAT LOCATION, WHICH [00:45:01] I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. IF WE'RE GONNA GO TO ALL THESE OTHER LOCATIONS, THEN IT NEEDS TO BE INVITED TO THE PUBLIC. IT NEEDS TO BE INVITED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND PLANNING TO CONDUCT THESE TESTS. SAY, YES, WE DID SHOOT OUT THERE. YES, HERE'S THE STANDARDS. YES, THIS IS THE CLOSEST PROPERTY LINE INSTEAD OF SURE. YEAH, WE DID IT. HERE IT IS ON A PIECE OF PAPER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND JEFF BAGLEY, GOOD EVENING BOARD. JEFF BAGLEY. I LIVE IN THE NORTH RIVER DISTRICT PLANNING ON BUILDING A HOUSE IN SOUTH RIVER DISTRICT. GOOD EVENING. BOARD, BOARD, CHAIRMAN BOARD. WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TONIGHT IN ORDER TO WITNESS THIS. MY GOD, WHAT A BLESSING IT IS FOR ME TO BE HERE. THE GOOD LORD WAS SPEAKING TO ME TODAY BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING UP THE SAME THINGS. SEPTEMBER 25TH, 1789 IS WHEN THE BOOK BILL OF RIGHTS WAS WRITTEN. DECEMBER 15TH, 1791. IT WAS WHEN IT WAS RATIFIED. THESE WERE THE FIRST 10 AMENDMENTS TO THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION OF THAT GIVES ME MY RIGHTS FROM, FROM 1789 TILL 2024. I STILL CARRY THOSE SAME RIGHTS. THE THE RIGHTS TO THE RIGHTS TO HAVE PEACE, THE RIGHTS TO HAVE ENJOYMENT, THE RIGHTS NOT TO BE SHOT AT BY THE, BY THE PROPOSED GUN RANGE AT 67 FEET. UM, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE THOUSAND ROUNDS HERE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 80,000 ROUNDS. UH, I DID THE, I DID THE LOOKUP FROM MAY 17TH, 2022, WAS IN ONE OF THE EMAILS. UM, SHERIFF BUTLER HAD SENT IT OVER. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT 25 DAYS AT, UH, ROUGHLY 10 HOURS A DAY, 8:00 AM TO 6:00 PM IN THE EVENING. BREAKS IT DOWN TO ABOUT EVERY 11.25 SECONDS. 11.25 SECONDS FOR 25 DAYS. THAT'S VERY DISRUPTIVE. BUT I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, AT THE, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT NEEDS A SHOOTING RANGE. I REALLY DO. I I LOOK AT THEY, THEY HAD SAID THAT THIS WAS THE BEST BASED ON CHECK MARKS. AND, AND, AND LOOKING AT IT, WE, WE ALREADY HAVE TWO ALREADY SHOOTING RANGES IN WARREN COUNTY. UH, ONE IS OUT NEAR MIDDLETOWN. THEY SAID IT WAS TOO SMALL. IF WE'RE GONNA DO ALL THIS WORK CUTTING OUT A HUNDRED FEET BY 34 FOOT MOUNTAINSIDE, WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER TO ADD THREE OR FOUR MORE LANES THERE? THE OTHER ONE IS AT THE FRONT ROW POLICE DEPARTMENT. RIGHT, RIGHT OFF MANASSAS, UH, MANASSAS AVENUE. AGAIN, THEY SAID IT WAS TOO SMALL, IT WOULD NOT WORK, BUT IT'S ALREADY BEING USED SOMETIMES BY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. COULD WE ALSO CREATE THAT AND MAKE IT LARGER? MY LAST OPTION WOULD BE THE, THE, THE COUNTY PURCHASED THAT LAND ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO FOR, I DON'T KNOW, IT WAS $22,000 AN ACRE. I'M WILLING TO BUY BACK THOSE FIVE ACRES IN ORDER TO GIVE FUNDS BACK TO THE COUNTY. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME UP WITH FUNDS. I'M WILLING TO DO THIS. SO I I PUT THAT ALL OUT THERE. YOU GUYS ARE MY NEIGHBORS. YOUR DECISIONS WILL AFFECT ME, MY FAMILY, 60 OTHER 60 PLUS OTHER HOMES WITHIN THAT ONE MILE. SO, GOD BLESS YOU ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JOHN JENKINS. GOOD EVENING. JOHN JENKINS, SOUTH RIVER DISTRICT. I DON'T WANNA REPEAT EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID, BUT I'M HERE ABOUT THE, UH, ABOUT THE FIRING RANGE. I WAS HERE LAST WEEK DURING THE, UH, THE BOARD MEETING, THE WORK SESSION WHEN THE SHERIFF PRESENTED HIS, UH, DISPLAY OF, UH, SOME INFORMATION, WHICH I DIDN'T FEEL WAS COMPLETE. REGARDLESS OF THAT, UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I'M ASKED MYSELF IS, IS THE FIRING RANGE A NECESSITY OR IS IT MORE OF A WISHLIST? YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT PREVIOUSLY SHERIFF BUTLER, SHERIFF MCKEAN AND SHERIFF ARMAND TROUT OVER THE YEARS HAD HAD MANAGED AN EFFECTIVE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WITHOUT A FIRING RANGE. UH, I KNOW THAT SHERIFF MCKEEN WENT OUT AND SPENT ABOUT $300,000 OF THE COUNTY'S MONEY TO BUY AN ARMORED VEHICLE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S AT OR HOW IT'S BEING USED. SOME THINGS WE NEED, SOME THINGS WE DON'T. SOME PLACES, SOME OTHER PLACES WE COULD GO. INITIALLY IT WAS STATED THAT THE COST FOR THE OUTTA TOWN TRAINING WAS $15,000. COUNTY'S BUDGET IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 90 MILLION. THAT $15,000, IF MY MATH IS CORRECT, REPRESENTS 0.00016%. SO WE'RE GONNA, WE HAVE COME UP HERE FOR THE PAST FOUR TO FIVE WEEKS TO TELL YOU THAT WE DO NOT WANT IT, THAT THEY CAN DO WITHOUT IT, OR THEY CAN GO SOMEPLACE ELSE. BUT YET IT CONTINUES. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO, I'D LIKE FOR IT TO [00:50:01] END SO I DON'T HAVE TO KEEP COMING IN HERE AND TALKING EVERY EVERY WEEK. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE SHERIFF MENTIONED WAS THAT THEY WERE WAITING ON INFORMATION FROM DEQ PUBLIC WORKS AND HEALTH DEPARTMENT. DEQ HAD A, THERE WAS A QUESTION ON THE APPLICATION ABOUT DEQ APPROVAL THAT WAS ANSWERED YES. MARKED AND READ ON THE APPLICATION. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT REPORT WAS ISSUED ON THE 19TH OF JULY. THAT'S IN HAND. PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ISSUED A MEMO ON JULY THE THIRD ABOUT ISSUES. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I DON'T KNOW WHY, WHERE IT'S GOING. I SORT OF COME IN HERE BECAUSE YOU CAN ADD THIS FIRING RANGE TO THE AGENDA HERE VERSUS WHEN IT'S PUBLISHED FIVE, FIVE DAYS PRIOR AND YOU COULD VOTE ON IT. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE WAY THINGS ARE DONE. I MEAN, SOMETHING WAS ADDED TO THE AGENDA TONIGHT, WHICH WASN'T ON THE AGENDA THAT WAS POSTED FIVE WEEKS AGO. SO IT'S LIKE IT GETS ON THE AGENDA. WE'RE NOT HERE TO PROTEST IT. YOU VOTE ON IT. UH, FAR AS THE SAFETY, WE KNOW ALL ABOUT THE SAFETY, THE LOW COST. I DON'T KNOW HOW THE SHERIFF COULD EVEN THINK ABOUT WHAT THE COST IS WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF SITE PLAN TO KNOW HOW MUCH EXCAVATION NEEDS TO BE DONE TO WHERE THE BUILDINGS ARE GONNA GO. IF YOU WANNA PUT IT OUT THERE, THERE'S NOT EVEN A SUITABLE PLACE TO, FOR A WELL FOR DRINKING WATER. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T, THEY GO DIRECTOR AND GET DIRTY. THEY CAN'T EVEN WASH THEIR FACE WITH THE, WITH THE WATER THAT'S OUT THERE, WHICH DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. 62 62 FAMILIES. I'M NOT REALLY GONNA SACRIFICE MY WELLBEING OR MY FAMILY'S WELLBEING OR THE PEOPLE IN GIMLET RIDGE SUBDIVISION FOR THAT PLACE TO GO THERE. AND THE NOISE, NOISE IS ONE THING. ACCESSIBILITY, GO AHEAD AND FINISH ACCESSIBILITY. UH, I DON'T, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO MEAN. THE ONLY THING I DO KNOW IS THE BENTONVILLE LOCATION IS THE FURTHEREST PLACE FROM THE CENTER OF, OF OUR FRONT ROYAL SECONDARY ROAD. THREE AND A HALF, THREE MILES COMING OUT. BENTONVILLE, BROWNTOWN ROAD, TRASH TRUCKS, COMMERCIAL VEHICLES. YOU GET TO THE RAILROAD TRACK AND THE TRAIN'S THERE. IT HAPPENS ONCE A WEEK, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MR. HENDERSON? NO MA'AM. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? SIR, YOU GET ONE TIME A NIGHT. WELL, I WAS GONNA OFFER MY SERVICES TO THE COUNTY. OH. I'M CONSTRUCTION COMBAT ENGINEER AND I HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF BUILDING RANGES FOR THE UNITED STATES ARMY WHEN WE MEET, YOU CAN TELL ME ALL ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. ANYONE WHO HASN'T SPOKEN, SECOND CALL, THIRD AND FINAL. OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON WITH THE REST OF OUR AGENDA. UH, WE'RE AT REPORT. MRS. COOK, I HAVE NO REPORT. DR. JAMISON? YES. UH, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT OR, OR KIND OF CALL SOME ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT WE CELEBRATE NATIONAL IT PROFESSIONALS DAY ON THE THIRD TUESDAY OF EVERY SEPTEMBER. SO ON SEPTEMBER 21ST THIS YEAR, UM, WE'RE GONNA RECOGNIZE THE TECHNICAL EXPERTS, THE ENGINE NETWORK ENGINEERS, SYSTEM ADMINISTRATORS, DATABASE ADMINISTRATORS, ETHICAL HACKERS, AND MANY MORE TYPES OF IT PROFESSIONALS TO MAKE SURE OUR COMPUTER SYSTEMS RUN SMOOTHLY. IT TAKES A SOLID SET OF SKILLS AND TALENTS TO FILL THE I CHOOSING AN IT PRO. SO ON SEPTEMBER 25TH, WE NEED TO BE SURE TO SAY THANKS TO THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO FIX OUR DEVICES WHEN THEY STOP WORKING AS THEY SHOULD. UM, I WANT TO ALSO FOLLOW THAT UP, BUT THE FACT THAT MR. STEINMEYER AND I HAVE BEEN MEETING MONTHLY WITH OUR TECHNOLOGY DIRECTOR, TODD JONES, I'M REALLY PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE IT DEPARTMENT IS ON THE VERGE OF SWITCHING OVER TO A NEW NETWORK MANAGEMENT SY OR NEW WORK MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. THE NEW SYSTEM WILL ELEVATE THE DEPARTMENT'S ABILITY TO ORGANIZE THEIR INTAKE OF WORK MANAGEMENT, WORK TASKS AND MORE COMPLEX PROJECTS AND OFFER VISIBILITY TO IT CONSUMER, IT CUSTOMERS, TEAM MEMBERS AND MANAGERS. THE REPORTING OPPORTUNITIES ARE GOING TO BE VALUABLE TO PROVIDE A FUNCTIONAL BASELINE FOR THE IT TEAM'S PERFORMANCE AND THE ABILITY TO DISCUSS OR TO FOCUS ON THEIR EFFICIENCY. THIS ADOPTION REPRESENTS SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS TOWARD ACHIEVING WHAT I IDENTIFIED NEAR THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR IS THE PROJECT FOR ACCOUNTABILITY AND COUNTY TRANSPARENCY ARE PACKED. I THINK THE IT DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO ESTABLISH THE MODEL FOR HOW THIS CAN BE DONE. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WATCHING IT UNFOLD IN THE COMING MONTHS. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK TODD AND ALL HIS STAFF, UH, AND THE IT TEAM FOR LEADING THE WAY ON THIS. THANK YOU MR. BUTLER. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. SO THE, UH, JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UH, I ATTENDED A, UH, FINANCE AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING LAST WEDNESDAY, AND WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS, SOME GOOD PROGRESS ON THE, ON THE DIFFERENT, UH, UH, DOCUMENTS, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT, UM, OF OH, UM, [00:55:01] THINGS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT WE'RE DOING BUSINESS. AND, UH, AND I THINK THAT, UH, UH, MS. COOK DID A VERY GOOD JOB AT CHAIRING THE MEETING. SHE'S, UH, UH, SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT. AND ALSO THE, UH, DONE SOME WORK OUT AT THE AIRPORT OF, I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH, UH, WITH THE, THE WARREN COUNTY FRONT ROYAL AIRPORT BECAUSE THE, UH, THEY'RE REALLY DEVELOPING A GOOD NICHE OUT THERE WITH THE SKYDIVING, UH, THE, UH, UH, THE, THE SAIL PLANNING OR THE, YOU KNOW, THE GLIDERS AND, UH, AND ALSO THE, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE, UH, THE, UH, UNMANNED AREA OF AERIAL VEHICLES OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DRONES. SO IT'S, UH, IT'S DEVELOPING INTO A, A, A REALLY GOOD AREA. SO, AND I'M SURE THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, MR. STAN MEYER. UH, NO REPORT TODAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, SURE. UM, I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION, I DID, I DID AFTER LAST WEEK'S MEETING, MEET WITH SHERIFF KLEIN AND, AND, UH, DEPUTY ROY, UH, TO DISCUSS THE UPDATE THAT WAS GIVEN ON THE FIRING RANGE. AND I, I FEEL THAT, UM, THERE, THERE WAS A, UH, A, A BIT OF, UM, MAYBE MISCOMMUNICATION OR, OR MAYBE, UH, A, A CART BEFORE THE HORSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK AN IMPRESSION WAS MADE THAT, THAT WAS THE END OF THE LINE. AND THE DECISION HAD BEEN, HAD BEEN RECOMMENDED. UM, I MET WITH, WITH SHERIFF, UH, AND, AND DEPUTY ROY, AND THERE'S A LOT OF, OF ANALYSIS AND STRUCTURE THAT'S GO, THAT'S UNDERNEATH THE ONE SLIDE THAT WAS ON THE SCREEN. AND I MET WITH THEM JUST TO BE SATISFIED THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF DEPTH THERE AND A LOT OF STRUCTURE THERE. SO IT'S A FACT THAT THIS IS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO, SO THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PROCESS UNDERWAY AND, UM, MY, YOU KNOW, REQUEST TO MEET WITH THEM WAS JUST TO ASCERTAIN YES, THERE'S STRUCTURE, THERE ARE CRITERIA, THERE IS IS ANALYSIS BEHIND THE CRITERIA. SO ALL OF THAT, UH, WE'LL, AND THEY, AND THEY PLAN TO BRING ALL THAT OUT IN THE PUBLIC IN THE, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS. SO I THINK IT WAS A LITTLE BIT UNFORTUNATE IN THE WAY THAT THEY WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE AND PERHAPS ON SOME SHORT NOTICE WEREN'T, YOU KNOW, KIND OF IN A TIGHT SPOT BECAUSE AN IMPRESSION WAS MADE PERHAPS THAT THAT WAS THE END OF THE LINE FOR THEM. UH, THEY ARE PERFECTLY WILLING AND, AND EXPECT TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT DETAIL AND THE, AND THE PROCESS THAT THEY'VE GONE THROUGH. SO, AND THAT WOULD OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS AND THE ABILITY TO HAVE SOME DIALOGUE OVER THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO I DID TAKE THAT TIME TO DO THAT, TO VISIT WITH THEM. AND, UH, I HAD ORIGINALLY GIVEN SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR HOW TO STRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, UH, AN ANALYSIS WITH THE CRITERIA AND THINGS. AND I'M, I'M, I'M REALLY QUITE SATISFIED THAT THAT STRUCTURE EXISTS AND THAT THAT PROCESS IS BEING FOLLOWED. THE, THE, AND I DO EXPECT THAT THE VISIBILITY, THE VISIBILITY INTO WHAT WENT INTO THAT ANALYSIS WILL BE, WILL BE THERE. AND SO, SO THE ONLY POINT I'M MAKING IS THAT BY HA BY REQUESTING AN UPDATE AT THE, AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. IT DID NOT SHORT CIRCUIT AND IT HAD NO INTENTION TO SHORT CIRCUIT THE PROCESS THAT'S GOING ON AT THE, AT THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU. UM, MY REPORT, I ATTENDED THE BROWNTOWN COMMUNITY CENTER MEETING. UM, AND FOR ANYONE THAT'S LISTENING FROM BROWNTOWN, I, THEY HAVE CONCERNS OVER INFORMATION AND THE ACCESS OF INFORMATION OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COUNTY. UM, I DON'T GET ON OUR WEBSITE VERY OFTEN BECAUSE I GET INFORMATION OTHER WAYS FROM BEING ON THE BOARD. SO I DID GO ON THERE. UM, AND IT'S A PROCESS AND THANK GOODNESS FOR OUR IT PEOPLE 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA HELP ME, UM, NAVIGATE IT SO I CAN GO BACK AND MR. JONES HAS OFFERED TO, UM, COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY TO THOSE TO HELP THEM MANEUVER IT AS WELL. BUT THERE'S A BUTTON ON THERE THAT YOU CAN HIT THAT SAYS, UH, NOTIFICATIONS. SO, UM, I APPRECIATE MR. JONES THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT SO THAT THEY CAN BE IN THE LOOP A LITTLE BIT MORE. UM, THAT'S A HARD AREA OUT THERE. UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE INTERNET IS CHALLENGING. CELL SERVICE IS NON-EXISTENT, SO THEY KIND OF FEEL CUT OFF ANYWAY, SO I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT. UM, WENT TO THE LIBRARY MEETING THAT SAME DAY AND CONGRATULATIONS. THEY HAVE WON A PRESTIGIOUS AWARD AND, UM, I THINK THEY ACCEPT THAT SOMETIME SOON. I FORGET THE DATE. UM, [01:00:01] BUILDING COMMITTEE MEETING WE ARE BRINGING IN AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AND BE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF SO REACTIVE ON OUR FACILITIES AND SO FORTH. GOT AN EDUCATION ON NEW LAWS AND AIR CONDITION HVAC, MY GOODNESS, WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE THE EARTH AND KILLING IT ALL AT THE SAME TIME. I FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES WITH THESE NEW REGULATIONS. UM, BUT THAT'S A PROCESS WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND APPRECIATE EVERYONE. AND THEN, UM, ON THE FACILITIES COMMITTEE AND EVERYTHING YOU DO TO KEEP THIS, THIS BUILDING AND ALL THE OTHERS GOING, UM, THERE ARE SOME, EVEN THE NEW BUILDINGS HAVE ISSUES. UNFORTUNATELY, LAKEFRONT ROYAL POA ANNUAL PICNIC MEETING WENT TO THAT. UM, A LOT OF CREDIT GETS, UH, TO THE BOARD UP THERE. THEY'VE, THEY'VE COME A LONG WAY IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND IT'S LOOKING GREAT UP THERE AND PUBLIC WORKS AS PART OF THAT PROCESS AND APPRECIATE ALL THAT THEY DO TO, UM, HELP THAT COMMUNITY OUT. AND THEN I VOLUNTEERED YESTERDAY ALL DAY AT RESTY JEFFRIES, AND IT WAS GOOD TO GET BACK THERE AND WORK WITH THE KIDS. AND IF YOU HAVE SPARE TIME AND CAN VOLUNTEER THE KIDS REALLY APPRECIATE PEOPLE COMING. SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT, UM, WHAT I'VE DONE SINCE OUR LAST MEETING. DR. DALEY. THANK YOU, MA'AM. UH, MS. MEADOWS, I, I HAD HER ON MY LIST. I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO DO, OR WHILE THEY ARE COMING UP, I REMIND YOU WE'RE MOVING IN THE ELECTION SEASON AND MATTHEW BEGINS EARLY VOTING ON FRIDAY. AND FOR THOSE, WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THE APPLICATION FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT NOT KNOW ABOUT CANOPIES AND SO FORTH, SINCE THAT'S DIFFERENT THIS YEAR WE HAVE, THEY COME DOWN AND GET AN APPLICATION FOR THE CANOPY TO, WE'VE HAD TWO APPLICATIONS. THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED. THERE IS A DESIGNATED AREA WHERE THE CANOPIES WILL BE THE PARKING AREA IN FRONT OF THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE THERE, WHICH IS THE EARLY VOTING THAT IS RESERVED FOR VOTERS, NOT CAMPAIGNERS. AND WE'LL SEE A LITTLE BARRIER ALONG THE GRASS AREA AND CAMPAIGNERS CAN BE BACK BEHIND THOSE AND THEY CAN TAKE CHAIRS THERE AND THEY CAN SIT THERE. BUT NO CANOPIES, CANOPIES MUST BE REMOVED EVERY EVENING. THANK YOU, MS. MEADOWS. YOU HAVE GREAT NEWS. YES, GREAT NEWS. SO IF YOU HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET TIFFANY WALKER, UM, WE HAVE SELECTED TIFFANY AS OUR NEW DIRECTOR FOR PARKS AND RECREATION, SO THANK YOU. UM, SO TIFFANY HAS ACTUALLY BEEN A PART OF OUR PARKS AND RECREATION TEAM FOR THE LAST 19 YEARS. UM, SHE HAS CONTINUED TO GROW AND DEVELOP WITH THE DEPARTMENT, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THE, REALLY THE PROGRAMMING AND EXPANSION AND GROWTH THAT SHE'S ABLE TO BRING HER PARTNERSHIPS WITH NUMEROUS PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN AMAZING. UM, SHE DOES HAVE HER BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM FARHAM, UM, FARHAM COLLEGE. UM, YOUR DEGREE IS A MOUTHFUL, SO I'M GONNA SKIP IT. UM, BUT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED. I THINK TIFFANY'S LEADERSHIP IS WHAT THE TEAM NEEDS AND I THINK IT'LL BE FANTASTIC FOR THE RECREATION COMMISSION, UM, AND FOR THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE. OKAY. YEAH, I, I I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ON THE, THE, UH, WORKING WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION. I THOUGHT THAT SHE WAS, UH, HEAD OF IT, UH, ALL, YOU KNOW, ALL ALONG , A LOT OF PEOPLE DO. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I'M VERY EXCITED TO CONTINUE TO BUILD PROGRAMMING AND RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COUNTY. IT'S A PASSION OF MINE AND I'LL STRIVE TO DO THE BEST THAT I CAN DO FOR YOU. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. I REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE, I THINK YOU WERE A YEAR OR SO AHEAD OF MY SON IN SCHOOL. AND I REMEMBER YOUR SPORTSMANSHIP AND HOW YOU, YOU'VE WOR YOU PLAYED WITH PASSION AND I'M SURE YOU'RE GONNA BRING THE SAME THING. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? OH, WAIT [G. Reports – Board Members, County Administrator, County Attorney (Part 1 of 2)] A MINUTE. I FORGOT YOU, MR. HAM. I'M SORRY. WELL, I, I DON'T NORMALLY SAY ANYTHING. ACTUALLY. DR. DALEY ASKED ME TO TALK ABOUT THE ROAD NAMES BRIEFLY. UM, AND I WANTED JUST TO READ TO YOU TWO OF YOUR COUNTY ORDINANCES. AND, UM, ONE IS, UM, AND THIS IS CONCERNING ROADS ARTICLE ONE ROAD NAMES. THIS ARTICLE PROVIDES ROAD NAMING RULES THAT ENABLE DISPATCHERS AND DRIVERS OF AMBULANCES AND FIRE TRUCKS TO ACCURATELY AND QUICKLY FIND RESIDENCES, THE POST OFFICE TO SORT AND DELIVER MAIL MORE EFFICIENTLY. BUSINESSES [01:05:01] TO LOCATE ADDRESSES AND ADDRESSES TO FIT STANDARD COMPUTERIZED ADDRESS SPACING. UM, AND THE SECTION ON THE THREE OR MORE RESIDENCES IS 1 42 6 PLATTED, PRIVATE ROAD NAMES OR OTHER RIGHT OF WAY ACCESS ROADS SERVING THREE OR MORE RESIDENCES WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S OFFICE ON A SYSTEMATIC BASIS FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THIS CHAPTER. SO YOUR COUNTY CODE TALKS ABOUT IF THERE'S THREE OR MORE RESIDENCES. WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, WE NEED TO TO NAME THEM AND STATES THE REASON WHY THE NAMING OF A ROAD DOESN'T CHANGE PROPERTY RIGHTS DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS DOESN'T CHANGE THE, THE UNDERLYING PROPERTY LAW IN THAT SUBDIVISION. SO IF THE CONCERN IS THAT BY NAMING THIS, IT PROVIDES SOME ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS TO SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT THE CASE. WE DON'T GET TO DO THAT. THIS IS JUST THE NAME OF A ROAD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. [H. Appropriations and Transfers] NOW WE'RE AT APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS. ANY DISCUSSION ON, ON THESE? HEARING NONE. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED? SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ROLL CALL. MR. HENDERSON. MR. STEINMEYER? AYE. MR. BUTLER? AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. DR. JAMESON? AYE. MRS. COOK? AYE. APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS? [I. Approval of Accounts] ANY DISCUSSION ON THOSE? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED? MADAM CHAIR? SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ROLL CALL. MR. HENDERSON. MRS. COOK? AYE. DR. JAMISON? AYE. MADAM CHAIR? NOPE. MR. BUTLER? AYE. MR. STEINMEYER AYE. APPROVAL [J. Approval of Minutes: Regular Meeting 9.03.2024] OF MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2024. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS, ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, HEARING NONE. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED? MADAM CHAIR IS SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ROLL CALL MR. ANDERSON. MR. STAN MEYER. AYE. MR. BUTLER? AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. DR. JAMISON? ALRIGHT, MRS. COOK. AYE. OKAY. CONSENT [G. Reports – Board Members, County Administrator, County Attorney (Part 2 of 2)] AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY, EXCUSE ME, MA'AM, BEFORE YOU EXCUSE, GO ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. I WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO, IN YOUR REPORTS YOU RECEIVE THE REVENUE REPORT AND THE EXPENDITURE REPORT, AND THOSE ARE FOR THE MONTHS OF JULY AND AUGUST. THE LAST CASH REPORT WE RECEIVED WAS THAT YOU HAD $40 MILLION TOTAL AS OF JUNE 30TH. AND THAT'S ALL ACCOUNTS, THAT WAS EVERYTHING. RESERVE MON, UH, SPEC RESERVE MONEY AND SO FORTH. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THESE TWO REPORTS, THE REVENUE REPORT SHOWS 4.9 MILLION RECEIVED IN JULY AND AUGUST. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXPENDITURE REPORT, IT SHOWS 16 MILLION EXPENDANT. SO THAT IN SHORT TERM MEANS THAT YOUR $40 MILLION IS NOW UNDER 30. AND THAT'S WHY IT IS CRITICAL THAT YOU KEEP A STRONG BALANCE BECAUSE YOU GO THROUGH A CYCLE AND WHEN IT GOES DOWN, THEN SUDDENLY YOU TURN AROUND AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE, THE CASH AND THE BUDGET IS REALLY COOL. IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT THE BIG THING IS CASH. IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE CASH, THEN THE BUDGET'S USELESS. SO YOU NEED TO RESERVE YOUR CASH. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE REVENUE REPORT, I'M GONNA CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE BOTTOM OF THE FIRST PAGE WHERE IT SAYS REVENUE FROM THE USE OF MONEY. AND IT SHOWS A NEGATIVE 2,200 $402. NOW THERE'S OVER 15 MILLION INVESTED WITH THIS BANK. AND I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY WE DO NOT MOVE OUR MONEY TO THE COMMONWEALTH ACCOUNTS WHERE IT'S GONNA EARN 4.5% DAY IN, DAY OUT EVERY SINGLE DAY. WHAT CURRENT PERCENTAGE RATE DOES THIS? IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT MUCH. IF IT'S [01:10:01] GOING DOWN. WELL, IF IT'S FOUR POINT, IF YOU'RE GETTING 4.5% ON $15 MILLION, THAT MAKES MONEY. THAT MAKES REAL DOLLARS. THE JAIL BOARD OUT THERE IS INVESTING THEIR MONEY AND THEY'RE GETTING FOUR POINT SOMETHING OUT HERE AT WELLS FARGO. AND IT'S NOT GONNA BALANCE THEIR BUDGET, MA'AM. BUT IT'S GONNA BE MONEY THAT OTHERWISE IS BEING USED BY EVERYBODY ELSE. SOMEBODY IS USING YOUR MONEY AND YOU ARE NOT. WHO IS WE? WE SIR, WE, ME, WE, YOU SAID WE SHOULD HAVE THE MONEY IN WE, THE WARREN COUNTY WHO'S MAKING THAT DECISION? THE TREASURER. AND IF I CAN ADD TO THAT, THIS WAS DISCUSSED AT OUR FINANCE AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING. UM, AND I DID ASK OUR TREASURER, 'CAUSE SHE HAD SAID THAT SHE HAS DONE SOME HOMEWORK ON THE DIFFERENT, UM, FUNDS. YES MA'AM. AND SHE SAID THAT SHE CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, YOUR SUGGESTION AS WELL. SO I HAD ASKED HER IF SHE WOULD PUT TOGETHER HER ANALYSIS AND WHY SHE IS, YOU KNOW, WHY HAS SHE DECIDED TO CONTINUE THE STATUS QUO? SO IN OUR NEXT FINANCIAL MEETING, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT SHE GETS THAT AND WE CAN HAVE HER COME AND PRESENT HER, YOU KNOW, HER RESEARCH. THANK YOU. SO, SO, SO DR. DALEY, IF, IF, IF, IF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS CORRECT AND LET'S SAY THAT, UH, THAT YOU'VE GOT A BALANCE OF $40 MILLION IN THERE MM-HMM. . AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT'S, UH, FOUR POINT A HALF PERCENT DAY IN AND DAY OUT. YEP. WHICH, WHICH TO ME MEANS THAT YOU TAKE THAT FOUR POINT A HALF PERCENT DIVIDED BY 365 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BE GETTING DAILY. WELL, IF YOU MULTIPLY THAT WHICH IS 0.00, WHATEVER IT IS OF DAILY, IT'S ABOUT $4,900. YES, SIR. IS WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE'D BE MAKING. AND, AND OF COURSE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT, UH, I DON'T THINK WE PAY TAXES ON THAT, DO WE? AND THEN NO. AND THEN THAT $5,000, YOUR 4,900 IS AGAIN TIMES 365 E EXACTLY. SO YOU'RE ABOUT 1.6 MILLION, SIR. YEAH. 1.7. SO THEN THAT WOULD, THAT'D HAVE TO BE, THE AVERAGE CASH AMOUNT WOULD BE ABOUT $40 MILLION THAT EQUIVALENTS TO APPROXIMATELY 15 FIRE AND RESCUE WORKERS. YEAH. OKAY. DEPUTIES, I UNDERSTAND THE PRINCIPLE, BUT THE AVERAGE DAILY BALANCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT 40 MILLION. IS IT? WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE DON'T HAVE A BALANCE FOR JULY AND AUGUST TO REPORT. OKAY. I UNDERSTAND. SO I CAN ONLY GO BY THIS. I UNDERSTAND THE PRINCIPLE. I DON'T WANT TO QUIBBLE OVER OVER MINOR THINGS, BUT I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THANK YOU. OKAY. END OF SOAPBOX. WELL, I LIKED YOUR SOAPBOX. YEAH. SO DID I BEING A CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER, HOW MUCH INFLUENCE DO WE HAVE OVER HER THOUGH? NO, NO DISRESPECT TO ANYONE. BUT I THINK YOU SHOULD BE ENTHUSIASTICALLY ASKING AS THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE IS DOING, AND THE MONEY HAS BEEN WITH THIS BANK A LONG TIME. IF YOU REMEMBER, SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER TWO YEARS AGO WE TALKED ABOUT WHY WE WERE SHOWING A NEGATIVE BALANCE AT THE END OF THE YEAR FOR THE USE OF MONEY. AND QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. I, I'M NOT THAT EDUCATED. I DON'T, I DON'T GET IT. IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING WE NEED TO DIVE DEEPER INTO. THANK YOU. WELL, AGAIN, AT OUR AUDIT, OUR FINANCE AUDIT COMMITTEE, WE'LL BRING THIS UP AGAIN 'CAUSE WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION ON, ON EXACTLY WHAT YOU, YOU WERE BROUGHT UP AND THEN, THEN YOU CAN FIND OUT FOR DR. JAMESON WHEN JULY AND THE AUGUST. WELL, UH, THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT THOUGH, OUR LAST MEETING, SHE SAID THAT SHE WOULD HAVE AT THE END OF THE MONTH THE NUMBERS AND I WILL CHECK INTO THAT AFTER. 'CAUSE SHE HAD COMMITTED, 'CAUSE WE MET LAST WEEK AND SHE SAID THAT SHE WAS GONNA HAVE THOSE NUMBERS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. SO I'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT. SO, AND, AND DR. DALEY, YOU KNOW, BRENT TO, TO KIND OF FOLLOW UP ON, UH, UH, DR. JAMESON'S, UM, COMMENT THERE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT CARRYING A $40 MILLION BALANCE, EVEN IF IT DROPS DOWN TO 10 MILLION AND LET'S JUST SAY THAT IT'S AVERAGE OF 10 MILLION, THAT'S STILL $1,500, YOU KNOW, A DAY. YES SIR. IN THE UH, SO THAT, I MEAN YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S FUNNY. THAT WE COULD USE TO, TO FIND JUST LIKE WHAT YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, THE SERVICES THAT WE NEED. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CONSENT [01:15:01] AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS TO PULL FOR DISCUSSION? UM, I DON'T KNOW. THIS WILL BE UP TO YOUR DISCRETION BUT, UM, KK ONE IS THE, UM, REQUEST I WANT PULL THAT. OH, YOU WERE GONNA DO THAT? YEAH. OKAY THEN I, I HAVE NO OTHER TO REMOVE ANY OTHER ITEMS 'CAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO PULL, UM, K ONE AND BE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH THEM AND UM, MR. WENDLING AND SO THAT WE'RE ALL UNDER A GOOD UNDERSTANDING WITH OF THIS. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA HURT HAVING THAT DISCUSSION AND HOLD AN AWFULNESS. SO ANY OTHER ITEMS? IF NOT, IS THERE A [K. Consent Agenda] MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITHOUT NUMBER ONE? SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ROLL CALL. MR. HENDERSON. MRS. COOK? AYE. DR. JAMESON? AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. MR. BUTLER? AYE. MR. STAN MEYER. AYE. ALRIGHT. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS? SO WITH [K.1. New Road Naming Request for properties accessed off of Buck Mountain Road ] RESPECT TO K ONE, I THINK YOU PROBABLY NEED TO MAKE A MOTION JUST TO TABLE THAT. TO TABLE IT. UM, THEN I MAKE THE MOTION TO TABLE THAT UNTIL, UH, AFTER A TIME AS SUCH WE'VE HAD TIME TO TALK TO THE, UM, CONCERNED CITIZENS. A SECOND WILL CALL MR. HENDERSON. LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. MR. STAN MEYER? AYE. MR. BUTLER. MADAM CHAIR. AYE. DR. JAMISON? AYE. MRS. COOK? AYE. NOW ANY ADDITIONAL [L. Additional New Business] NEW BUSINESS? YES SIR. YES MA'AM. I NEED TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT FIVE YEAR, MONTHS AGO I TOLD YOU THAT MY ENLISTMENT WOULD BE UP IN 2025 AND THE BOARD NEEDS TO GET BUSY. I MAY GET AN EARLY OUT AT ANY TIME. THAT IS, WE JUST HAVE TO PUT A STOP-LOSS ON YOU. . I GOT A SCHOOL CUT FROM THE MARINE CORPS I WILL BE GETTING WITH YOU. WELL, I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT THAT, THAT BROUGHT THAT UP. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, UM, I, I'D LIKE TO KNOW AS WELL, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WILL, WE AS A BOARD DISCUSS THE TIMELINE AND YOU KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA GO FORWARD. MR. BUTLER AND I PLAN TO MEET WITH, UH, DR. DALEY. IT'S JUST BEEN ONE THING OR THE OTHER THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO CONNECT, BUT WE WILL DO THAT IN THE NEXT WEEK. SO AT WHAT POINT DO, WELL YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE ME A TIMELINE NOW, BUT AT WHAT POINT WILL THE WHOLE BOARD BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THIS AND HAVE OUR SUGGESTIONS OF MOVING FORWARD? UH, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. ALRIGHT. IF THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS, IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? A AYE. ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE HAVE SAFE TRIP HOME. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. THANK YOU. SURE JOB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEP. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.