Jan 21, 2025 Board of Supervisors Meeting

AND, UH, INTRODUCING, UH, PASTOR JAMES BOYETTE.

IF YOU'LL, YOUR MIC TURNED ON.

SO THE, UH, ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA, DO I HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO ADD ITEM IN.

CAN YOU, CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? IS THIS BETTER? OKAY.

SO, PASTOR BOYETTE, WOULD YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN, UH, IN INVOCATION THE, THE PASTORS AND, UH, OF THE, UM, WARREN COUNTY SHOW THEIR APPRECIATION FOR BEING, GIVING US THE HONOR TO DO, TO OPEN THEM WITH PRAYER.

HEAVENLY FATHER, GIVE US STRENGTH AND THE WISDOM WE WILL NEED TO MEET THE CHALLENGES BEFORE US TODAY.

HELP ALL HERE TO BE RESPONSIBLE AND ACT, ACT AND SPEAK WITH INTEGRITY AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS THAT AFFECT THIS BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY.

HEAVENLY FATHER, BRING YOUR PEOPLE TOGETHER UNDER ONE COMMON GOAL, TO GUARD THE SECURITY AND WELLBEING OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WE ASK THAT ALL DURING THIS MEETING.

EVERYTHING SAID AND DONE WILL REFLECT TRUTH AND JUSTICE.

GOD, ALL HERE, LORD, KEEP EVERYONE FAITHFUL, FAITHFUL TO THE TASK AT HAND, THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN THEM, INSTILL IN ALL THEIR HEARTS, THE SPIRIT OF PEACE AND LOVE THAT GOES BEYOND ALL UNDERSTANDING.

AS WE FOCUS ON THE GOOD YOU ARE DOING IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IN OUR LIVES.

HELP US TO UNITE TOGETHER TO BETTER OUR COMMUNITY AND COUNTRY SO THAT WE MAY LEAVE IT IN BETTER SHAPE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, WE PRAY GOD BLESS AMERICA.

AMEN.

THANK YOU, PASTOR.

[D. Adoption of Agenda — Additions or Deletions ]

I'D LIKE TO, UH, ADOPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED INTO, UM, RECORD HIS ITEM IN, AS I JUST SAID, THAT INCLUDES THE CITIZEN APPOINTMENTS FOR THE WARREN COUNTY LIBRARY BOARD.

ITEM THAT WE HAVE IS THE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES.

DO I HAVE A, UH, A SECOND? A SECOND.

[E. Department of Social Services - Staff Award Recognition from the Governor's Office ]

IF, UH, IF I MAY, UM, UH, INTERJECT IN HERE THAT, THAT, AGAIN, THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST ENJOYABLE PARTS OF, OF ANY OF THE, UH, UH, AGENDAS THAT WE'VE GOT IS A RECOGNITION.

YES, SIR.

UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, GOOD EVENING.

IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE ABLE TO STAND UP HERE TODAY TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, MICHELLE SMELTZER, OUR COMMUNITY, UH, LIAISON, AND NICOLE JOHNS, WHO IS OUR AFFECTIONATELY KNOWN AS LITTLE LIAISON WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES.

ON NOVEMBER 20TH, 2024, MICHELLE AND NICOLE RECEIVED THE 2024 GOVERNOR'S VOLUNTEERISM AND COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARD FOR OUTSTANDING INDEPENDENT GROUP IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA.

THEY WERE ONE OF 10 AWARDS GIVEN THAT NIGHT, UH, AND IT'S COVERED THE ENTIRE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA.

AND YOU HAVE THE AWARDS.

OH, .

SO, UM, MICHELLE AND NICOLE SERVE WARREN COUNTY, UH, THROUGH A VARIETY OF VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS.

UH, THESE INCLUDE SERVING ON THE BOARD FOR THE HOPE AND REST, UH, TEMPORARY SHELTER OR HEARTS, AND THE HOUSE OF HOPE.

WE WERE ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE HERE A FEW WEEKS AGO, BUT, UH, WE WERE IN THE MIDST OF ANOTHER ONE OF OUR COLD SNAPS.

AND WHERE WERE THEY? THEY WERE AT THE SHELTER, UM, AS IS FITTING BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY SPEND A LOT OF THEIR TIME, UH, TOGETHER.

MICHELLE AND NICOLE AMA ALMOST 1000 HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE OVER THE PAST YEAR.

UH, IT'S NOT JUST THE, UH, HOUSE OF HOPE, IT'S NOT JUST HEARTS.

IT'S, UM, PRETTY MUCH ANY ORGANIZATION

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HERE IN WARREN COUNTY.

THESE TWO HAVE LEFT THEIR MARK ON.

UM, IN 2018, MICHELLE HELPED CREATE THE THERMAL SHELTER WHEN SHE SAW A NEED AND WORKED TO COALESCE THE COMMUNITY GROUP TO PROVIDE SHELTER THROUGH LOCAL CHURCHES.

MICHELLE AND NICOLE WORKED TIRE TIRELESSLY TO ENSURE HOMELESS RESIDENTS HAVE A SAFE AND WARM SPACE TO SPEND WINTER NIGHTS.

THEY RAISE FUNDS, THEY DRIVE THE VAN, UM, THEY PICK UP RESIDENTS AND TAKE THEM TO THE SHELTER.

UH, THEY SCHEDULE MEALS AND PERSONNEL, THEY DO LAUNDRY, AND THEY KEEP THE PEACE.

I KNOW THAT, UM, THEY HAVE BEEN VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME IN THE DAYTIME RECENTLY TOO.

MICHELLE, UH, HAS BEEN MAKING HOT CHOCOLATE AND STEAK SANDWICHES FROM WHAT I HEAR, DAY EGGS, SCRAMBLED EGGS, AND NICOLE RUNS A PRETTY TIGHT SHIP OVER THERE.

UM, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT TO LOOK AT HER, BUT SHE'S THE MEAN ONE .

SO BETWEEN 30 AND 40, 40 PEOPLE, UH, SPEND THE NIGHT AT THE SHELTER EVERY NIGHT, UH, DURING THIS TIME OF YEAR, AND IT'S GONNA BE TWO DEGREES TONIGHT.

UH, AND, UH, SINCE ITS INCEPTION, HEARTS HAS SERVED MORE THAN 250 WARREN COUNTY RESIDENTS.

UM, MAINLY THROUGH THE EFFORTS OF MICHELLE AND HER SIDEKICK NICOLE.

UH, THEY HAVE A PLACE TO STAY.

THEY HAVE A PLACE TO BE WARM BECAUSE THEY WON'T GIVE UP AND THEY KEEP PUSHING AND THEY KEEP MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, HAS SERVICES THAT THEY NEED.

AND IT'S NOT JUST THAT THE SHELTER SERVICES, THEY PROVIDE DIFFERENT SOCIAL SERVICES FOR THEM.

UH, YOU MAY HAVE READ IN THE NORTHERN VIRGINIA DAILY A STORY THAT CAME OUT ON THE 14TH WHERE, UH, SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THERE TALKED ABOUT, HEY, THEY'VE NEVER HAD A BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

THEY'VE NEVER HAD, UM, SOMEBODY STOP AND HELP THEM WRITE A RESUME OR GET A JOB OR ANYTHING.

THEY CONNECT THEM WITH DIFFERENT SERVICES.

SO IT'S NOT JUST, HEY, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU A PLACE TO LIVE.

IT'S, WE'RE GONNA HELP YOU CONNECT TO THE SERVICES SO THAT YOU CAN BE ON YOUR PATH TO SELF-SUFFICIENCY.

SO HOPEFULLY YOU DON'T NEED THE SHELTER NEXT YEAR.

UM, THROUGH THEIR WORK, UM, EVEN THROUGH THE PANDEMIC, UH, THEY RELENTLESSLY HELP THE COMMUNITY AND SERVE OTHERS.

IN ADDITION TO BEING RECOGNIZED BY GOVERNOR YOUNGIN, UH, THEY'VE BEEN FEATURED IN NEWS ARTICLES IN THE ROYAL EXAMINER, UM, NOVEMBER 23RD, 2024, THE NORTHERN VIRGINIA DAILY, UM, THE JANUARY 24TH.

AND IF YOU ARE LISTENING TO THE RIVER TO TODAY, THEY ARE ON NEWSMAKERS THANKS TO TODD.

I DON'T KNOW, I DIDN'T SEE TODD HERE.

UM, BUT, UH, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE AND THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY DO.

WE WANTED TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT OF YOUR TIME SO THAT YOU CAN, UM, CELEBRATE WITH US THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THESE TWO LADIES HAVE AND THE MAJOR IMPACT THAT THEY HAVE ON WARREN COUNTY AND OFFICE RESIDENTS.

AND WE JUST WANT TO THANK THEM FOR EVERYTHING THEY DO.

AND, UM, THEY, THEY'VE BEEN CALLING ME THE PROUD PAPA OF 'EM BECAUSE I'VE BEEN BRAGGING ABOUT THEM TO ANYBODY WHO WILL LISTEN AND EVERYBODY WHO WILL LISTEN.

SO, UM, THIS IS MY OPPORTUNITY JUST TO, UH, ALLOW YOU TO RECOGNIZE MICHELLE ON THE CALL.

I DO HAVE COPIES OF THE, UM, NEWS ARTICLE FOR EVERYBODY, UH, SO YOU CAN TELL A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THEM.

AND IF YOU COME BY OUR OFFICE, YOU CAN SEE A PICTURE OF NICOLE HANGING OUT WITH THE GOVERNOR, BECAUSE IF YOU KNOW NICOLE, YOU KNOW, SHE'S NOT SHY AND SHE ACTUALLY WENT UP TO GOVERNOR, YOUNG KING AT THE CEREMONY AND ASK HIM TO POSE WITH HER IN AN ACTION PHOTO, WHICH HE GRACIOUSLY DID.

AND SO THEY KIND OF GAVE EACH OTHER BACK.

THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU DO.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

NOW, ARE YOU SURE THAT, UH, THAT SHE DIDN'T GO AND, AND ASK GOVERNOR YOUNGIN, UH, GOVERNOR YOUNGIN, DO YOU WANT TO, INSTEAD OF ME POSING WITH YOU, DO YOU WANNA POSE WITH ME GIVEN THE CHANCE? SHE WOULD, YES.

[F. Public Comment Period (60 Minute Time Limit) ]

UH, $2.2 MILLION DEFICIT.

NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

AND, UH, WE WILL GO UNTIL SEVEN 30.

SO I'VE GOT, UH, UH, SEVEN 12 BY THE, BY THE CLOCK.

WHO DO WE HAVE? UH, IT HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP? UH, YES, SIR.

JOHN JENKINS.

OKAY, SIR.

HEY, GOOD EVENING.

JOHN JENKINS, SOUTH RIVER DISTRICT, UH, COMING HERE TONIGHT.

UH, WHAT MAKE A COUPLE COMMENTS ABOUT THE, UH, BUDGET PROCESS, WHAT YOU'RE WORKING ON AS FAR AS THE 25 20 25 TO 2026 BUDGET.

UH, I WASN'T HERE AT THE WORK SESSION LAST WEEK, BUT I THINK WAS STATED THAT THE COUNTY HAS A,

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UH, I GUESS THAT'S BASED ON THE PREDICTIONS FOR EXPENDITURES AND EXPENSES AND REVENUE.

UH, I UNDERSTAND THE DEFICIT PART.

SO IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE STARTING OUT IN THE HOLE WITH THIS WHOLE THING.

SO THE AUDIT FOR 2023 AND 2024 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR ANOTHER MONTH, POSSIBLY LONGER.

AND BY THE TIME THE AUDIT IS AVAILABLE, YOU WILL BE IN THE PROCESS OF APPROVING THE BUDGET FOR 25, 20 26.

SO I DON'T SEE HOW THE BOARD CAN HAVE MEETINGS TO DETERMINE WHAT THE NEXT PHYSICAL YEAR OF BUDGET WILL BE WITHOUT KNOWING HOW THE MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT FOR THE PAST 18 TO 20 MONTHS.

THIS PRACTICE HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

AND BASICALLY THE BOARD HAS APPROVED THE BUDGET WITHOUT ALL OF THAT INFORMATION, INCREASING THE BUDGET AMOUNT BY TWO AND A HALF TO $3 MILLION AT MOST OF THAT TIME, TAXES NEED TO BE INCREASED IN ORDER TO MEET THAT.

AND THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE BOARD IS TO THE 40,000 CITIZENS OF FRONT ROYAL.

AND TO APPROVE A BUDGET WITHOUT SUFFICIENT DATA TO SUPPORT OR INCREASE, TO ME SEEMS UNACCEPTABLE.

UH, WHEN THE REAL ESTATE BILLS, WHEN THE REAL ESTATE TAX BILLS ARE SENT OUT TO THE CITIZENS, YOU'RE GIVEN X AMOUNT OF DAYS TO PAY THAT TAX IN FULL.

AND IF NOT, YOU'RE PENALIZED 10% PENALTY PLUS INTEREST.

NO BREAKS.

SO THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT BUDGET ARE WORKING IN THIS BUILDING.

HAVE THEY PRESENTED YOU WITH A LIST OF ITEMS ON WHY THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED? DO THEY NEED MORE PERSONNEL? THEY NEED A BETTER PROGRAMMING SYSTEM.

UH, SEVEN MONTHS AND STILL NOT READY.

MY BANK, BANK OF CLARK SEND OUT THOUSANDS OF STATEMENTS EVERY MONTH, YOU KNOW, SO WHY CAN'T THIS BE DONE? WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR ACTUALLY WALKING BACK THERE AND SAY, LOOK, WE WANT THIS BUDGET DONE AND WE WANT IT DONE.

NOW, IS THAT THE BOARD IS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, COUNTY ATTORNEY WHO IT FEARS THAT NOBODY HAS DONE THAT IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

WHEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE COMPANY WALKS BACK TO HIM, TO HIS FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND SAYS, I NEED INFORMATION ON LAST YEAR'S REVENUE SO I CAN MAKE DECISIONS IN THE FUTURE.

HE, HE OR SHE IS NOT GONNA SAY, WELL, I'M NOT GONNA WAIT A COUPLE MORE MONTHS.

I WANT IT NOW.

IN THE REAL WORLD, PEOPLE GET FIRED OR TERMINATED FOR NON-PERFORMANCE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS BUILDING DO A GREAT JOB, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, SOMEBODY IS NOT DOING THEIRS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, THAT'S ALL FOR SIGNATURE, SIR.

IT WAS, UM, SAID THAT THE, UH, WARREN COUNTY'S FINANCE DEPARTMENT CAN START DOING SOME STEPS TO START THE PROCESS ROLLING.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO HAS NOT SIGNED UP WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK NOW? SECOND CALL, THIRD CALL, PUBLIC COMMENT, PERIOD IS NOW CLOSED.

SO THE, UM, SO WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE A, A BREAK UNTIL SEVEN 30 OR, I'M SORRY.

OH, OKAY.

[G. Reports — Board Members, County Administrator, County Attorney ]

YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

THE BOARD REPORTS.

SO, UM, MS. UM, MS. COOK, THANK YOU.

UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND BEGIN WITH OUR FINANCE AUDIT COMMITTEE.

WE HAD OUR MEETING LAST MONTH.

UM, I JUST WANNA LET MS. COLORERS KNOW THAT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE REVIEWED YOUR QUESTIONS AND HOPEFULLY THAT WE'LL BE SENDING YOU, UM, OUR RESPONSES TO YOUR QUESTIONS, UM, SOON.

UH, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING UP THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD A WARREN COUNTY CITIZEN ATTEND OUR SIT IN OUR MEETING 'CAUSE OUR MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, AND IT WAS VERY REFRESHING TO HAVE CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT IN OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS, AND I THINK WE NEED MORE OF THAT.

SO, AGAIN, I JUST WANNA LET FOLKS KNOW, THE FINANCE AUDIT COMMITTEE IS, UM, MEETS EVERY SECOND WEDNESDAY, UM, EVERY MONTH AT SIX O'CLOCK HERE AT THE, UM, GOVERNMENT CENTER.

UM, I, I DO WANT TO ADDRESS THE, THE BUDGET ISSUE, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE AUDIT ISSUE FOR FISCAL YEAR 24.

AND RIGHT NOW, UM, THE, THE STATUS THAT WAS GIVEN AT THE FINANCE AUDIT COMMITTEE WAS THAT, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE WAITING FOR THE TREASURER.

THE TREASURER NEEDS TO FINISH BALANCING THE BOOKS, AND SHE MAY BE, UH, IT MAY BE DELAYED.

SHE HAD COMMITTED TO BE THE END OF JANUARY, AND NOW WE'RE, IT'S PUSHING OFF INTO FEBRUARY.

UM, AND I DON'T, SHE DIDN'T GIVE US A DATE OF, OF THE COMPLETION, BUT I ALSO, IN THE, IN THE AUDIT COMMITTEE,

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SO, UH, AT THIS, I JUST WANTED TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW AT THIS TIME WE'RE WORKING ON THE AUDIT.

UM, I, I CAN'T GIVE YOU A DATE WHEN ALL OF THIS IS GONNA BE COMPLETED, AND I, I HOPE THAT WE GET IT BEFORE THE BUDGET PROCESS.

I'VE BEEN STANDING ON MY SOAPBOX ON THIS FOR EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, AND I DO AGREE WITH, UM, UH, MR. JENKINS, THAT HOW CAN YOU APPROVE A BUDGET WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW PAST PERFORMANCE? SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

UH, SECONDLY, UM, I ATTENDED THE, UM, AIRPORT COMMISSION AND, UM, IT WAS REPORTED THAT THE RULES AND REGULATIONS DOCUMENT IS ABOUT 75, EXCUSE ME, 95% COMPLETE.

AND THAT THEY WERE HOPING THE DOCUMENT WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UH, SOON.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER WORKING SESSION OR IF THAT'S GONNA BE ON A REGULAR MEETING AGENDA, BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING, UM, THE NEW, UM, THE NEW DOCUMENT.

ALSO, THE COMMISSION ALSO REPORTED THAT THEIR FUEL SALES HAVE BEEN INCREASING AS A RESULT OF THE BUSINESSES OUT THERE.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE THE, UM, SKYDIVE OUT THERE AND YOU ALSO HAVE A FLIGHT SCHOOL NOW.

SO AS THEIR BUSINESS INCREASES, SO DOES, UM, THE AIRPORT'S, UM, REVENUE WITH, UM, FUEL GOES UP AS WELL.

SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS, UM, PRETTY POSITIVE.

UM, LASTLY, YOU KNOW, UM, I SOME BROKEN RECORD HERE, BUT I'M STILL WAITING FOR SOME OF SOME QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO THE, UM, TO PUBLIC WORKS, UM, REGARDING, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL TOPICS AND SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, THE SIGNAGE THAT'S ON THE TERM, THE AIRPORT TERMINAL, UM, BUSINESS LIABILITY ASSURANCE REQUIREMENTS, AND, UH, AND OF COURSE OTHER AIRPORT BUSINESS POLICY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE THAT I'M HOPE, HOPE HOPEFULLY, THAT ONCE THE RULES AND REGULATIONS GET PUBLISHED FOR OUR REVIEW, THAT THOSE THINGS ARE ADDRESSED IN THE DOCUMENT.

UM, SO, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I MET WITH THE, UH, A LOT OF, UH, PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATE IN THE TRAVEL SOFTBALL COMMUNITY LAST WEEK, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMICS OF TRAVEL SPORTS AND HOW THEY MIGHT IMPACT THE COUNTY.

UH, THERE'S, THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR THE ROCKLAND SPORTS PLEX BE BUILT OUT AT THE NORTH END OF THE COUNTY.

AND, UM, I'M INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT THE ECONOMICS OF, OF HOW THE, THAT COMPLEX MAY BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THOSE ACTIVITIES.

UM, THE INITIAL INDICATIONS SEEMED PRETTY POSITIVE TO ME, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THAT ANALYSIS, UH, GOING TO THE NEXT PHASES, UH, LAST WEEK WE INTERVIEWED THE SIX TOP APPLICANTS FOR THE NEW LIBRARY BOARD.

UH, I WAS PLEASED WITH THAT, HOW THAT WENT.

I'M SATISFIED THAT WE'VE SEATED A VERY CAPABLE BOARD.

I WILL BE DOING THAT LATER TONIGHT, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM THEM AS THEY ASSEMBLE AND START WORKING ON THEIR MISSION TOGETHER.

ACTUALLY COME TO US AND ASK, UH, FOR ROADS TO BE, UM, PUT ON A LIST.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, MR. STAN MEYER, NO REPORT TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, UH, MS. CALLERS.

UH, THANK YOU SIR.

UH, JUST WANT TO TAKE TIME SINCE WE HAVE FIRE AND RESCUE IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT REPRESENTED HERE TONIGHT TO, UM, GIVE THEM KUDOS ON GETTING THROUGH ANOTHER NASTY LITTLE SNOW IN THIS COLD WEATHER.

I KNOW IT KEPT BOTH OF YOU BUSY AND APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DID GETTING THROUGH THAT.

UM, I ALSO WANNA CONGRATULATE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WHO GOT, UM, SERVICE AWARDS, UH, FROM FIVE YEARS UP TO 35 OR 40.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THANK THEM ALL.

THERE WERE A FEW THAT WEREN'T ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT, UM, BUT APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THEY DO TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR EVERYONE IN THE COUNTY.

UM, JANUARY 14TH, I ATTENDED THE SAMUELS PUBLIC LIBRARY MEETING, AND A LOT OF GOOD THINGS ARE GETTING READY TO GO ON.

THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF PROGRAMS, UM, THAT THEY'RE ADVERTISING, UH, PUZZLE CONTEST AND OTHER THINGS.

UM, SO A LOT OF GOOD THINGS GOING ON THERE.

WENT TO THE BROWNTOWN COMMUNITY CENTER MEETING.

UM, IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING TO GO TO THAT.

AND, UM, A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT BROADBAND, THE LACK OF, AND, UH, A ROAD PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON.

UM, A LITTLE BIT OF CONTROVERSY, THE PROS, THOSE WHO WANT IT AND THOSE WHO DON'T.

AND, UM, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE I'M STUCK IN THE MIDDLE TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST OUT OF THAT.

UM, TRYING TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ON THE PROCESS OF HOW YOU GET ON A VDOT SIX YEAR ROAD PLAN.

WE DON'T GO OUT AND SAY WE'RE GONNA TO, WE WANT THIS ROAD OR THAT ROAD.

THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE ROADS

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IT'S, UH, QUITE A BIT OF A CRITERIA TO EVEN GET ON THE SIX YEAR ROAD PLAN.

SO, UM, IT'S, UM, AND EACH YEAR WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THOSE.

SO, UM, ALWAYS OPEN FOR SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO BETTER COMMUNICATE, BUT I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO AVAIL OURSELVES OF CHECKING INTO, UM, WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COUNTY AS WELL.

UM, JANUARY 15TH, WE HAD ANOTHER TOURISM MEETING.

THIS WAS THE SECOND ONE.

WE ARE STILL, UM, LAYING THE FOUNDATION, UH, A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE ON THIS, UH, TALKING ABOUT WHAT, WHAT HAS WORKED IN THE PAST AND WHAT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.

LOT OF GOOD IDEAS, UM, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT BRANDING AND MARKETING AND, UM, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THERE ARE VERY SHARP PEOPLE.

AND, UM, IT'S, UH, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE DIRECTION, UH, THAT WE'RE GOING.

AND I THINK THAT WILL TURN, UM, INTO THE TRAVEL SOFTBALL AS WELL, OR TRAVEL SOCCER OR WHATEVER.

THESE KIDS DO A LOT OF TRAVEL SPORTS.

SO TYING IT ALL TOGETHER, IT'S, UM, IT'S GONNA BE, I'M EXCITED FOR THAT.

UH, JANUARY 16TH I'M ON THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND, UH, WE MET, HAD ELECTIONS OF, UM, NEW OFFICERS AND, UM, WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES TO HELP MOVE THINGS IN, UM, BETTER, UM, AREAS OF PROGRAMS AND THINGS OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS THERE.

UH, TOOK A GRANDPARENT DAY ON THE 17TH AND ATTENDED MY FOURTH, UH, GREAT GRANDSON AND MY KINDERGARTEN GRANDDAUGHTERS AWARDS.

BOTH OF THEM GOT SOME NICE AWARDS, AND IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO GO TO THE SCHOOLS AND SEE WHAT THE KIDS ARE DOING AND THE EXCITEMENT OF GETTING AWARDS.

UH, JANUARY 18TH, I HAD THE PRIVILEGE, UH, AND THE GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

SOME NEIGHBORS OF MINE UP THE ROAD, THEY, UM, HAD AN OLD HOUSE THAT WAS BEGINNING TO BE TOO COSTLY TO KEEP MAKING REPAIRS.

I THINK IT WAS BUILT IN THE 18 SOMETHINGS AND THEY DONATED IT TO FIRE AND RESCUE AS A TRAINING, UH, TO BE ABLE TO DO TRAINING AND TO BURN IT DOWN.

THEY BUILT A NEW HOUSE JUST AWAY FROM IT.

UM, WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY I GOT TO SEE SIMULATED, UM, FOR THE STAFF THAT HADN'T, UM, DONE CHIMNEY FIRES.

THEY, THEY PUT SMOKE UP IT AND, UM, EACH OF THE INDIVIDUALS GOT TO GO UP.

THEY WALKED ON THAT ROOF JUST LIKE THEY WERE ON THE GROUND, UNNERVED ME.

UM, BUT THEY DID THAT.

THEY WERE ABLE TO, UM, VENT THE ROOF, UM, THE THINGS THAT THEY WOULDN'T NORMALLY BE ABLE TO DO, UM, EXCEPT IN A LIVE FIRE AND YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO PRACTICE IT.

THEN THEY, THEY SET IT ON FIRE, BUT THEY EXPLAINED THE WHOLE PROCESS AND WALKED US THROUGH EACH OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WERE DOING.

UM, IT, THEY DID THE, UM, DOOR ENTRY.

THEY'VE GOT THIS REALLY COOL DOOR THAT THEY CAN TAKE AROUND, AND THAT THING IS MUCH HARDER THAN IT LOOKS TO, TO CRASH THROUGH.

AND, UM, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, I, I THOUGHT I WAS GOING UP AND JUST SAY, HI, HOW ARE YOU? BECAUSE IT WAS COLD AND I ENDED UP STAYING AND I THOUGHT THEY WERE GONNA, I WAS GONNA GET ROASTED AT ONE POINT.

I HAD NO IDEA THE INTENSITY OF THE HEAT, UM, A BALE OF HAY THAT WAS FAIR DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE HOUSE.

IT GOT SO HOT, HOT, IT IGNITED ON ITS OWN.

IT, IT WAS, UM, IT WAS A, I WAS JUST AMAZED AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS PUTTING UP WITH ME BEING THERE.

I TRIED TO STAY OUTTA THE WAY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, UM, ATTENDED THE FRONT ROW VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT'S, UM, BANQUET THAT NIGHT.

UM, AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, HONORED OUR PAID, UH, EMS PEOPLE WITH THE EMS AWARD OF THE YEAR, WHICH WAS REALLY NICE.

AND, UM, I THINK THAT WAS A, UH, SHOWS THE, THE DISTANCE WE'VE COME BETWEEN VOLUNTEER AND PAID STAFF THAT WE'RE NOT SQUABBLING WHOSE SANDBOX WE'RE IN ANYMORE.

AND I, I THINK THAT GOES A LONG WAY TO WHAT CHIEF BONANOS AND ALL THE GUYS AND GIRLS HAVE DONE.

APPRECIATE THAT A LOT.

UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, UH, UPCOMING, UM, UH, PROJECTS THAT WE'VE, WE'VE GOT AND, UH, ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE AIRPORT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

WE JUST GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THE, UH, LAST, UM, WAS IT, UH, LAST WEDNESDAY OF, UH, I ATTENDED THE, UH, UH, FAA AND, UH, THE, UH, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF AVIATION CAME AND MET WITH THE, UH, UH, WITH, UM, MR. BERRY AND, UH, MEMBERS OF THE, THE, UH, UH, FRONT ROYAL OR THE WARREN COUNTY FRONT ROYAL AIRPORT.

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AND, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WE HAVE A REAL GEM, UH, IN THE WARREN COUNTY FRONT ROYAL AIRPORT HERE.

UM, AND, UH, WENT, UH, TO THE, UH, AIRPORT OF, UM, UH, COMMISSION MEETING THAT NIGHT.

AND JUST LIKE, UH, MS. COOK SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT, UH, THE, UH, UM, THE, THE, THE BYLAWS, UM, ABOUT 95% DONE.

UH, I NEED TO GET THOSE, UH, UH, NEED TO GET THOSE OVER TO MS. COOK AND HAVE HER TAKE A LOOK AT THEM.

UM, THURSDAY, WE, UH, JUST LIKE, UH, DR.

JAMESON HAD MENTIONED, UH, WE, UH, WE MET, UH, AND INTERVIEWED, UH, CANDIDATES FOR THE LIBRARY BOARD.

AND THEN, UH, ON, UH, SATURDAY, UH, I WAS ONLY ABLE TO GO FOR JUST A, UH, A VERY SHORT PERIOD WITH THE FRONT ROYAL VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT ANNUAL BANQUET.

UH, I HAD TO LEAVE AFTER ABOUT A HALF AN HOUR BECAUSE I HAD A PREVIOUS COMMITMENT.

BUT, UH, I WAS, I WAS VERY AMAZED AT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NUMBER OF FOLKS THERE.

AND THEN, UM, MS. KOHLERS SHOWED ME THE, THE PICTURES OF THE, THE FIRE THAT, UH, UH, SHE WITNESSED THAT DAY AND THAT DID SEEM PRETTY HOT.

SO, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

UM, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR, FOR YOU, UH, DR.

UH, DALEY OR SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE WAIT? COURSE, WAIT SIR.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU NOT READY TO START YOUR HEARING.

ALRIGHT,

[L. Public Hearing - CUP2024-11-01 - Amber R Jones - Short Term Tourist Rental ]

SO WE'LL START WITH THE, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THE FIRST ONE IS THE, UM, UM, HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.

IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING OF, UH, CUP 2 0 24 DASH 1 0 1, AND THAT'S, UH, AMBER R. JONES.

SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL FOR THE PROPERTY SHE ACQUIRED FROM HER FATHER.

THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE PROPERTY AVAILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM LODGING FOR VISITORS SEEKING TO EXPERIENCE WARREN COUNTY WHILE SHE AND HER FAMILY ARE NOT USING THE PROPERTY.

THE PROPERTY WILL BE MANAGED BY THE APPLICANT.

AMBER JONES.

NO PREVIOUS CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR LAND USES IN THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT.

THE DWELLING WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1981 AND THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO ACTIVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR SHORT-TERM TAURUS RENTAL IN THE GREENHILL FOREST SUBDIVISION.

THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS ISSUED A NOTICE OF VIOLATION IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024 FOR ADVERTISING AND OPERATING A SHORT-TERM TAURUS RENTAL WITHOUT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ON THE PROPERTY.

BUT SHE HAS SINCE REMOVED THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR RENTAL.

THERE IS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT OPERATION PERMIT APPROVING A MAXIMUM OF SIX OCCUPANTS FOR THE THREE BEDROOM DWELLING.

THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN HAS BEEN PROVIDED AND REVIEWED BY PLANNING STAFF AND THE PROPERTY MANAGER AMBER JONES, LIVES WITHIN THE REQUIRED 30 MILE DISTANCE FROM THE PROPERTY.

A REQUEST FOR COMMENTS WAS SUBMITTED TO THE GREENHILL FOREST HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, BUT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS AS OF TODAY.

UH, WE DID RECEIVE TWO LETTERS OF CONCERN FROM A NEIGHBOR AND COPIES HAVE BEEN PROVIDED IN THE AGENDA PACKET.

THE DWELLING MEETS THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT TO ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS.

THE CLOSEST DWELLING IS 172 FEET TO THE WEST.

PLANNING STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS BE ADDED TO THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

SHOULD THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CHOOSE TO APPROVE THIS PERMIT.

NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND VIRGINIA STATEWIDE FIRE PREVENTION CODE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.

NUMBER TWO, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS SHALL NOT EXCEED THE SYSTEM CAPACITY AS DETERMINED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT PER WARREN COUNTY CODE SUBSECTION 180 DASH 56.4 B.

THE CERTIFICATE OF ZONING SHALL ONLY BE ISSUED WITH APPROVED HEALTH DEPARTMENT RECORDS.

NUMBER THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE WELL WATER TESTED ANNUALLY FOR E COLI AND COLIFORM BACTERIA IN A COPY OF THOSE RESULTS SHALL BE PROVIDED TO PLANNING STAFF AND HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

AND NUMBER FOUR, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE SEPTIC SYSTEM SERVICE EVERY FIVE YEARS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND A COPY OF THE SERVICE INVOICE SHALL BE PROVIDED TO STAFF.

THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED, AND MS. JONES IS HERE THIS EVENING IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, SIR.

SHE IS HERE.

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS TO, UH, DO ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS? NO, NO.

SORRY.

DO I NEED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF? YES, PLEASE.

AMBER JONES ADDRESS IS, SORRY, SHORT

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ONE, UM, 1 51 VALLEY ROAD FRONT, ROYAL, VIRGINIA.

UM, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT SHE SAID.

UM, THE CABIN BELONGED TO MY DAD AND I PURCHASED IT FROM HIM.

AND, UM, MY HUSBAND AND I WERE LOCAL HERE.

UM, I'M A TEACHER, HE'S A HOME INSPECTOR, SO WE'RE NOT INVESTORS COMING IN AND, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO START TOURIST RENTALS.

WE'VE ACTUALLY VERY MUCH CONSIDERED LIVING THERE LONG TERM PERMANENTLY AT SOME POINT.

UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A ONE AND A 2-YEAR-OLD AND SO WE ARE STAYING WITH MY STEPMOM.

MY DAD PASSED AWAY, UH, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

AND SO WE'RE STAYING WITH MY STEPMOM THERE AND IT'S JUST BETTER TO BE WITH FAMILY.

UM, YOU KNOW, WITH A ONE AND 2-YEAR-OLD, IT GETS, IT'S HELPFUL TO HAVE TO HAVE EXTRA HANDS AND I THINK IT'S HELPFUL FOR HER FOR US TO BE THERE.

SO WE MAY NOT USE IT AS A SHORT-TERM CHURCH JOURNAL IN THE FUTURE, BUT FOR NOW, IT'S, UM, A LOVELY PLACE.

PEOPLE REALLY, UM, LOVE IT.

MY DAD, IT WAS HIS PRAYER CABIN.

HE WAS A PASTOR AT DYNAMIC LIFE.

UM, SO YEAH, I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? NOPE.

NO.

OKAY, GREAT.

IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD, UH, WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? UH, NO SIGNATURE, SIR.

IS THERE ANYBODY, UH, IN THE, UH, IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? APPARENTLY NOT.

SO, UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'M SORRY.

HEARING IS CLOSED.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? YES.

UM, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUESTED BY AMBER R. JONES FOR A SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND ROLL CALL MRS. COLORS? AYE.

SO THE, UH, SO, UH, AT THIS POINT SINCE WE'VE, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, UM, CAN WE GO TO THE NEW BUSINESS OR FINISH THE FINISH WITH YOU, DR.

DALEY? YES, SIR.

UM, BOARD MENTIONED THE ISSUE OF BROADBAND AND ALL POINTS.

BROADBAND WILL BE DOING THEIR PRESENTATION TO, UH, WARREN COUNTY ON FEBRUARY AT THE FEBRUARY 4TH MEETING.

SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE, IF YOU CAN GET THEM TO US, WE WILL BE SENDING THEM TO THEM SO THAT THEY CAN THEN ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.

SPEC SPECIFICALLY, UH, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, IS THERE ANY, UM, UH, UPDATES OR ANY PRIOR, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO, MA'AM.

THEY'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE UPDATE ON THE FOURTH.

BUT IF YOU'RE ASKING QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, IS THERE ANY BACKUP MATERIAL THAT WE CAN LOOK AT TO DETERMINE IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR BROAD, UM, TO ALL, I'LL ASK THEM IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT TO LOOK AT, REPORT, A QUARTERLY REPORT OR SOMETHING THAT, UM, THAT PROVIDE ONLY THE ONES THAT YOU RECEIVE.

UH, THAT WE SEND YOU MONTHLY FROM THE, UH, AND QUARTERLY.

FROM THE REGIONAL COMMISSION.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY REPORTS THAT WE HAVE.

ALRIGHT, THAT'S PERFECT.

AND DOES THAT REPORT GO TO ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS? YES, MA'AM.

OKAY, GOOD.

BECOME EFFECTIVE JANUARY, 2025.

MM-HMM.

REMIND YOU THAT THE, UH, TOWN COUNTY LIAISON MEETING IS NEXT THURSDAY, JANUARY 30TH AT 6:00 PM AT TOWN HALL.

YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE AGENDA AS IT IS.

IF YOU THINK OF SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ADDED, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

AND SO WHERE IS IT? IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT.

NO, I DIDN'T.

I DON'T HAVE IT.

SO, TO BRIEFLY UPDATE THE BOARD ON OUR 2025 REASSESSMENT PROCESS, NOTICES WENT OUT, UH, THIS LAST WEEKEND AND AMIDST THE SNOW, THEY ARRIVED, UH, OVER THE WEEKEND AND FIRST OF THE WEEK.

THESE ASSESSMENTS WHEN THEY'RE FINALIZED, WILL

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SO IN THE NOTICE, IT PROVIDES THAT YOU CAN CONTACT THE REASSESSMENT OFFICER, WHICH IS COEN COEN SERVICES AND THE NUMBER THERE.

AND ALSO THEIR ONLINE, UH, YOU NEED TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT PRIOR TO FEBRUARY THE 11TH.

AND THEIR INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS, OR HEARINGS, AS THEY CALL 'EM, WILL BE IN THE COUNTY OFFICE BUILDING.

AND THEY'LL BE USING THE CONFERENCE ROOM DOWN THE HALL HERE.

AND THEY'LL BE SCHEDULED BETWEEN NINE AND FOUR, UH, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

AND THEY CAN BE IN PERSON, THEY CAN BE ON THE PHONE, THEY CAN BE OVER ZOOM TEAMS OR WHATEVER WAY EMAILS, WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH THE ASSESSOR.

UM, THESE WILL BE FROM FEBRUARY 3RD TO FEBRUARY 14TH.

AND THEN THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION COMES IN AFTER THE ASSESSOR AND THE COMMISSIONER OF THE REVENUE COMPLETE THE RECORDS.

SO THEY HAVE A, THEN THEY TAKE 'EM OUT TO THE INDIVIDUAL, SEND THEM, RESEND THEM OUT, AND YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAL THOSE.

AND SO IN MARCH, THE BOARD SUPERVISORS WILL BE APPOINTING THE BOARD OF ASSESSORS.

WE NEED THREE OR EQUALIZATION, WE NEED THREE OFFICERS AND ONE ALTERNATE.

AND, UM, YOU CAN BE THINKING ABOUT WHO YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE DO THAT.

UH, THE COMMISSIONER WILL BE SENDING, SENT YOU A COPY OF THE CRITERIA FROM THE STATE CODE, AND WE WILL RE BE RESENDING THAT AGAIN NEXT MONTH SO THAT YOU CAN BE LOOKING AT WHO'S AVAILABLE.

ALSO BE POSTING THAT ON OUR WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED.

SO IF YOU WANT TO JUST LOOK HOW YOUR PROPERTY COMPARES WITH EVERYBODY ELSE, IF YOU GO TO THE WARREN COUNTY WEBSITE, WARREN COUNTY VA.GOV, AND GO TO THROUGH THE DEPARTMENTS TO THE COMMISSIONER OF THE REVENUE AND GO DOWN TO REAL ESTATE TAXES AND THEN TO THE ON ONLINE AS ASSESSMENT WEBSITE AND SELECT THE REAL ESTATE DATABASE.

AND THEN YOU CAN ENTER THE ONLINE DATABASE.

AND WHEN YOU GET THROUGH THERE, STEP SIX, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT ANY PROPERTY YOU WOULD LIKE TO IN WARREN COUNTY, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL EQUALIZE THE TAX RATE AFTER ALL THE REASSESSMENTS ARE COMPLETED AND WE'VE HAD ALL THE HEARINGS, ET CETERA.

THAT IS APPROXIMATELY MAY IS WHEN THAT IS DONE.

AND THAT, UM, THE GOAL IS TO BE WHEN THE COMMISSIONER TAKES THE 20, 24 BOOKS LAST YEAR AND COMPARES IT TO THIS YEAR TO READJUST THE RATE SO THAT THE REVENUE IS WITHIN 1% OF LAST YEAR.

NOW IN EVERY REASSESSMENT, SOME PROPERTIES GO UP MORE, SOME PROPERTIES GO UP LESS.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE BEAST THAT, THAT SOME AREAS WILL DO GOOD, SOME WILL NOT DO AS WELL.

UM, THEY SHOULD ALL BE IN THE SAME RANGE AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE.

BUT THERE WILL BE SOME DIFFERENCES IN AREAS THAT DROPPED IN THE LAST ASSESSMENT MAY GO UP THIS ASSESSMENT AND VICE VERSA.

SO THAT ALL REMAINS TO BE SEEN AS EVERYBODY LOOKS AT THEIR, UH, ASSESSMENTS AND THEN THE ASSESSOR RECHECKS THEM ALL TO GO BACK THROUGH THEM.

AND SO WE'LL BE IN THAT PROCESS, BUT ANYONE CAN USE THIS METHOD TO GO BACK, CHECK IT AND TO SCHEDULE A HEARING.

SO, SO DR.

DALEY, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.

SO SOMEBODY GETS AN ASSESSMENT AND THEY TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND GO, WOW, YOU KNOW, MY, MY PROPERTY WENT UP BY 30%.

DO THEY HAVE TO HAVE A, A HOW YOU SAY, UM, UH, A REASON OTHER THAN I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS RIGHT TO, TO TAKE IT OVER LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, A MATERIAL REASON SUCH AS YOU'RE SAYING THAT I'VE GOT FOUR

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BEDROOMS, BUT I'VE ONLY GOT THREE.

OR YOU'RE SAYING THAT I'VE GOT X NUMBER OF THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, BUT I REALLY ONLY HAVE THIS.

UM, OR, OR CAN YOU JUST GO IN THERE AND SAY, I DON'T THINK THIS IS RIGHT? YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO BOTH EITHER WAY.

AND YOU CAN DO BOTH.

YOU CAN, UH, NUMBER ONE, YOU ARE NOT ASSESSING THIS CORRECTLY BECAUSE THERE ARE THREE BEDROOMS IN THIS HOUSE, AND YOU'RE, AND YOU'RE REPORTS, YOU SUGGEST THERE ARE FOUR.

UM, AND NUMBER TWO, YOU CAN SIMPLY SAY, I DON'T THINK THIS IS RIGHT.

AND THEN THE ASSESSOR WOULD LOOK AT THAT AND COMPARE TO COMPARABLES.

UH, AND A LOT OF THIS IS DONE BY, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, IF, UH, TWO HOUSES ARE IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY ARE SIMILAR SIZE, NUMBER OF BEDROOMS, ET CETERA, UH, THEN THEY SHOULD BE SAME MATERIALS, THEN THEY SHOULD BE COMPARABLE.

AND IF THEY'RE NOT, YOU WOULD BRING THAT TO THE ASSESSOR'S QUEST, UH, ATTENTION AND LET THEM QUESTION THAT TO THEM.

BUT YOU CAN ALSO JUST SIMPLY, I DON'T THINK THIS IS RIGHT.

CAN I, HOW CAN I DO THIS? AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO HAVE YOUR OWN ASSESSMENT DONE AND COMPARE IT.

SO THEN, SO THEN YOU COULD BASE THIS ON JUST TAKING A, A, A CHANCE THAT SOMEBODY MADE A, AN ERROR AND, UH, THAT'S THE, SO YOU JUST WANT THEM TO LOOK AT THAT.

THEY, THEY'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT JUST TO LOOK TO SEE IF THERE'S AN ERROR.

UM, WHEN YOU GO TO THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION, THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT YOU TO BE LOOKING FOR FACTS.

THEY'RE MORE INCLINED, THEY'VE GOT ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY'LL WANT YOU TO TELL THEM A REASON WHY YOUR PROPERTY SHOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHERS, AS AN EXAMPLE.

ALL RIGHT, SIR, THAT'S MY REPORT, SIR.

YES, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR DR.

DALEY AND ACTUALLY FOR THE STAFF AND IT, AND, AND IT'S JUST SO I KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THE ROCKLAND PARK FIELDS.

SO ON THE, IN YOUR REPORT, IT HAS UPCOMING ON, UM, PROJECTS FOR 2025.

AND YOU HAVE, UH, AND IT'S LISTS $4 MILLION.

AND GRANTS ARE $2 MILLION.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IN FISCAL YEAR 2025 WE'RE GONNA BE SPENDING $4 MILLION.

NOT NECESSARILY.

I'M NOT SURE WE COULD SPEND IT ALL IN ONE THIS FISCAL YEAR.

EVEN IF WE HAD ALL THE CASH THIS MORNING OR THIS EVENING, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD DO IT ALL IN ONE YEAR.

BECAUSE THAT'S, IT'S NOT DESIGNED YET.

I KNOW THAT PRELIMINARY DESIGN, I, I KNOW THAT, I KNOW BECAUSE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE'RE GONNA BE APPROVING A CONTRACT FOR ABOUT, UM, 60 4K TO GET THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS GOING AND THAT KIND OF THING.

SO I, AND I JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS.

IT, IT'S BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GONNA START DOING OUR BUDGET AND WE'RE ALREADY SHORT $2 MILLION AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS GRANT FOR, WE'RE GONNA GET FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR $2 MILLION, BUT IT'S REIMBURSED.

WE HAVE TO SEND AN INVOICE AND THEN THEY'LL PAY US BACK.

IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US $2 MILLION AND WE CAN GO OFF AND PAC NO MA'AM.

THIS IS A REIMBURSEMENT BASIS.

IT'S A REB.

SO, YOU KNOW, SO MY, YOU KNOW, MY, MY, I I JUST WANTED TO GET MY ARMS AROUND THIS.

SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS HAVE I KNOW WE HAD A WORKING SESSION AND THE APPLICATION WAS GIVEN, WAS PRESENTED? YES, MA'AM.

SO DID WE GET THE GRANT APPROVED? YES, THE GRANT.

IF THE GRANT IS APPROVED, IT INDICATED THAT WE HAVE RE WE HAVE BEEN AWARDED THE $2 MILLION SUBJECT TO THE MATCH AND COMPLETING THE WORK.

OKAY, PERFECT.

SO IT IS REIMBURSEMENT.

OKAY, PERFECT.

SO FOR THIS, FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, WE ARE ONLY GOING TO, UM, SPAN, I'M JUST GONNA ROUND TO 70 K FOR THE APPROXIMATELY.

FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.

SO THEN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR THAT WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT SOMEHOW, I MEAN, DO, DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH WE NEED TO PUT IN OUR BUDGET? SO WE'RE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE ASKING THE CONTRACTOR TO DO IS TO BE ABLE TO SHOW US HOW TO PHASE THIS PROJECT.

THERE MAY BE OTHER FUNDS A AVAILABLE THAT CAN BE USED AS MATCHING FOR THIS OTHER THAN THE TOURISM.

AND

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WELL, THAT'S MY NEXT POINT IS THE FACT THAT THERE IS APPROXIMATELY $500,000 IN OUR TOURISM FUNDS OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

AND THOSE FUNDS CAN BE USED TO MATCH THIS AND THEY HAVE TO BE USED FOR TOURISM.

AND IF THIS IS TOURISM ATTRACTION, WE CAN DO A PORTION OF IT FOR THAT.

UM, THERE ARE FIELDS THERE, THERE IS THE, UM, HOUSE AND THE BARN MM-HMM .

AND THAT CAN BE A SEPARATE PROJECT.

WE MIGHT WANT, THE BOARD MIGHT WANT TO USE THE BARN AND THE HOUSE AS A SEPARATE TOURISM ATTRACTION AND HAVE RENOVATE IT SO THAT IT'S READY FOR USE AND THEN LEASE IT OUT, CONTRACT IT OUT.

BUT TECHNICALLY THE COUNTY STILL OWNS IT OR THE COUNTY MAY DECIDE, THE BOARD MAY DECIDE AT SOME POINT THAT IT WANTS TO SELL THE HOUSE AND THE BARN.

AND THEN THERE ARE ATHLETIC FIELDS AND SOME OTHER RECREATION AREAS.

AND THEY AGAIN, CAN BE PIECED IN SECTIONS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO TRY TO DO IT ALL AT ONCE.

NOW WE HAVE A TIME LIMIT OF THREE YEARS, MS. MEADOWS, THREE YEARS TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THE GRANT.

THAT'S JUST A 2 MILLION.

THAT'S FOR THE 2 MILLION.

ALL RIGHT.

THREE YEARS.

SO AS MUCH OF THAT AS WE CAN DO WOULD THEN GO THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2020, THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR, EXCUSE ME, 2026, IT'S THREE YEARS.

AND WE'LL SEE HOW MUCH OF THAT WE CAN PUT IN OUR BUDGET, HOW MUCH WE MIGHT GET MONEY FROM ANOTHER SOURCE, AND HOW MUCH WE'RE ABLE TO PHYSICALLY COMPLETE.

'CAUSE IT'S GOTTA BE COMPLETE BEFORE WE CAN APPLY FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

AND ALL OF THOSE WILL PLAY IN A LITTLE BIT AS TO EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO.

SO IT'S A NUMBER OF MOVING TARGETS THERE, MA'AM.

BUT THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO MONEY, LOCAL MONEY COMMITTED AS OF TODAY UNTIL WE DO THIS, UNTIL WE APPROVE THIS CONTRACT ON THE RIGHT OTHER THAN WHAT WAS DONE ABOUT SEVEN, 10 YEARS AGO.

SO AFTER WE, UH, GET THE CONCEPT DESIGN MM-HMM .

THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DETERMINE HOW WE'RE GONNA PHASE THIS IN IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

AS FAR AS BUDGET GOES.

HAS NO INCREASE EXCEPT 3% IN THE SCHOOL BUDGET.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WHEN I HEAR, WELL, WE GOT OTHER SOURCES, WELL WE KNOW THAT, THAT'S GREAT, BUT WHAT ARE OUR PRIORITIES FOR THESE OTHER SOURCES? I MEAN, YOU HAD THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT JUST HERE SAYING THAT THEY NEED ANOTHER FTE, YOU KNOW, SO, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S A DIFFERENT SUBJECT.

SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO GET MY ARMS AROUND THIS AND, UM, TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN I SEE $4 MILLION FOR A PROJECT FOR 2025, IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

IT'S ONLY GONNA BE SEVEN.

IT'S NOT ALL GONNA BE DONE IN THIS NEXT YEAR.

NO MA'AM.

IT'S NOT GONNA FIT IN THERE.

THAT'S WHAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION.

YOU SAID THERE'S ABOUT A TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS PRELIMINARY JUST TAKING THE FISCAL YEAR 23 AND LOOKING AT THE NUMBER PRELIMINARY NUMBERS, FISCAL 24, AND THEN JUST ADDING SMALL, SMALL INCREMENTS ON THERE.

NO CAPITAL PROJECTS, NO ASSETS, NO NEW POSITIONS, ANYTHING THAT THE DEPARTMENT WILL BE COMING TO YOU TO ASK FOR BEYOND BASIC OPERATIONS IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS NUMBER.

AND THAT NUMBER BY ITSELF, UH, IS PROBABLY PLUS OR MINUS, UH, 10%.

SO YOUR DIFFERENCE IS PROBABLY BETWEEN 2.250 AND BETWEEN 2.2750 THAT, THAT'S WITHOUT ALL OF YOUR CAPITAL AND ALL THESE EXTRA REQUESTS THAT YOU'LL BE LOOKING AT IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH.

AND THAT

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AND THAT'S JUST THE OPERATION PORTION.

SO IT'S VERY CONSERV, VERY PRELIMINARY AND VERY CONSERVATIVE.

WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE MONEY RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE EARMARKING IS COMING OUTTA TOURISM AND THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD.

YOU KNOW, SO WHEN THERE'S MONEY COMING FROM OTHER SOURCES, I JUST KIND OF WONDER WHAT THE OTHER SOURCE IS, BUT I'LL WAIT AND SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT FOR, FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO, OKAY.

WELL THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING ALL OF THIS TO ME AND I'M, I'M GLAD THAT THE GRANT WAS APPROVED.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

UH, APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS.

YEAH.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A, A QUESTION AND I I, I APPRECIATE GOING OVER THE REASSESSMENT.

IT, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES IT MAKE SENSE.

WHAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, UM, IS THE NUMBERS I'M HEARING AND AND WE HAVE NO INVOLVEMENT IN THE REASSESSMENT OTHER THAN CHOOSING A, AN ASSESSOR, UH, COMPANY.

BUT I, I WORRY ABOUT THE NUMBERS THAT I'VE HEARD THE EX, YOU KNOW, THE EXTREME, UM, DOUBLING IN TWO YEARS.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE EQUALIZATION AND THE APPEAL PROCESS, BUT YOU KNOW, I'M WONDERING HOW WE HELP THE PEOPLE THAT GO THROUGH THE APPEAL AND THEY SAY, SORRY FOR YOUR BAD LUCK, WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING.

UM, AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO FOR THOSE PEOPLE.

I, I, MY FIRST REACTION WAS HEARING, YOU KNOW, IT IS THROW THIS OUT AND NOT DO IT AT ALL.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT WAS JUST MY FIRST REACTION BECAUSE OF, OF THE BURDEN.

I MEAN, WE JUST CAME OFF OF 35 TO 40% SOME GREATER, LIKE YOU SAID, SOME WENT UP, SOME WENT DOWN.

UM, AND THEN WE, WE THOUGHT WE WERE DOING A GOOD THING OF GETTING OUT OF THAT HIGH BY DOING IT TWO YEARS AND KEEPING THE INDUSTRIAL UP.

AND THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT THE WAY WE THOUGHT IT DID WITH, UH, THE, SOME OF THE NUMBERS I'M HEARING, AND ONE QUESTION I WAS GOOGLING THIS AFTERNOON, UM, TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY CODES OUT THERE THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T REASSESS OVER A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE AND THERE'S NONE.

I THINK MAYBE WE NEED TO LOBBY OUR RE UH, LEGISLATORS TO SAY JUST LIKE WE CAN'T INCREASE MORE THAN A PERCENTAGE, YOU KNOW, ON THE TAX RATE ONCE WE EQUALIZE IT, THAT MAYBE IN SO MANY YEAR INCREMENTS YOU CAN'T ASSESS SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S A GOUGING SYSTEM HERE AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, BUT I HAVE, I JUST HAVE TO SAY I WISH THERE THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF SOLUTION.

'CAUSE I, I JUST, I, I FEEL LIKE THE PEOPLE ARE TAKING A REAL BEATING.

I THINK IF ANYBODY BELIEVES THEIR REASSESSMENT IS NOT IN LINE WITH THE MARKET, THEY SHOULD CONTACT THE ASSESSOR AND SET UP AN APPOINTMENT AND BRING IT IN, SHOW 'EM WHAT IT IS, AND EITHER, AND IT, IT'S, THEY HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION THAT THEY CAN TELL EITHER IT IS IN LINE WITH THE MARKET OR IT IS NOT, AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT THAT IS.

UM, AND, BUT I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE REASSESSMENT IS DESIGNED TO DO, IS TO LET EVERYBODY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THEM, COME IN AND MEET WITH THE ASSESSOR AND LOOK AT IT AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT IT IS.

UM, AND WHETHER, SEE IF THAT IS CORRECT OR NOT, UM, THERE'S ALL, THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR MISTAKES IN ANYTHING.

AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO GO BACK AND LOOK, WELL NO, THAT'S NOT CORRECT.

THIS IS WHY IT'S NOT.

AND LOOK TO SEE, NO, I HOPE THESE ASSESSORS ARE, HAVE A LITTLE LENIENCY IN 'EM BECAUSE I, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE NEEDED AND REMIND THE BOARD WE, UM, ROLLED IT LAST TIME YOU ROLLED THE RATE BACK ALMOST 15 CENTS.

SO IT WAS A BIG ROLLBACK.

IF ANYTHING, THE BOARD TALKED ABOUT MAYBE IT WAS A PENNY MORE THAN IT SHOULD HAVE.

UM, BUT YOU, YOU DID THAT TRYING TO HELP EVERYONE THERE.

AND I, I'M CONFIDENT THE BOARD'S GOING TO WANT TO DO AS MUCH AS THEY CAN, BUT THAT, THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE YOU HAVE AN IMPACT IN THE PROCESS.

OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S A TECHNICAL PROCESS OF THIS IS HOW PROPERTIES ARE VALUED, UH, IN WARREN COUNTY AND FRONT ROYAL, AND THIS IS WHAT THE MARKET IS BURIED, THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR PROPERTY AND ET CETERA.

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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS AND IT'S FOR COVERS.

OH, WELL I I HAVE NO REPORT.

I I DIDN'T THINK HE HAD A REPORT.

[H. Appropriations and Transfers ]

WE HAVE TWO FOR DECEMBER 24 AND JANUARY 25.

SO DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO, NOT FOR ME.

DR.

JAMESON? NO.

NOPE.

I'M, I'M GLAD TO SEE, UM, DESCRIPTIONS ARE THERE, BUT MAKES MY LIFE A LOT EASIER AND I APPRECIATE THE FINANCE AND EVERYONE WHO, UM, HAS GOTTEN DILIGENT ABOUT DOING THAT.

UH, THE NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS THE, UM, APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS FOR NOVEMBER, 2024.

SO DO I HAVE A MOTION I MOVE THAT, UM, THAT WE ACCEPT THE FISCAL YEAR 24, 25 DECEMBER, 2024 APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFER REPORT AND THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 JANUARY, 2025 APPROPRIATION AND TRANSFERS REPORT.

[I. Approval of Accounts - November 2024 ]

ANY, UH, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT? NOT FOR ME.

NOPE SIR.

NOPE, NOPE.

AGAIN, I'M HAPPY TO SEE DESCRIPTIONS.

SO DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THAT? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE NOVEMBER, 2024 APPROVAL OF ACCOUNT REPORTS AS PRESENTED.

OKAY, SO THE, NOW WE'VE GOT THE

[J. Approval of Accounts - December 2024 ]

APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS FOR DECEMBER, 2024.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT? I, I HAVE A QUESTION AND MAYBE IT'S A REQUEST AND MAYBE IT'S AN UNREASONABLE REQUEST, BUT THE, UM, APPROVAL ACCOUNTS THAT WE, WHAT WE GET ARE JUST FROM THE GENERAL LEDGER.

IT DOESN'T INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, ANY, YOU KNOW, ENTERPRISE ACCOUNTS.

IT DOESN'T INCLUDE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT OR THE SOCIAL SER SERVICES.

AND, AND THOSE BUDGETS ARE SIGNIFICANT AND I WONDER IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, GET, HAVE THAT BE PART OF THE REPORTS AS WELL.

I MEAN IT'S UH, YOU KNOW, OUR JOB IS TO HAVE, PROVIDE OVERSIGHT OF THE TOTAL BUDGET AND THESE ACCOUNTS THAT I JUST RATTLED OFF ARE, UM, UH, TAXPAYER DOLLARS CONTRIBUTE TO IT.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT'S DOABLE OR NOT.

UH, THANK YOU MA'AM.

THE PCARD REPORT WILL INCLUDE ALL OF THE FUNDS.

YOUR FUEL CARD REPORT WILL ALSO INCLUDE ALL OF THE FUNDS.

I'LL CHECK AND SEE ABOUT THE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, IF THAT INCLUDES MORE THAN JUST THE GENERAL FUND AS WELL AND ALSO THE BUDGET.

I MEAN THEY'RE, YEAH, THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, SO LIKE CAPITAL, YOU KNOW, OUR ASSET REPLACEMENT FOR THIS YEAR IS $1.2 MILLION, YOU KNOW, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE EXPENDITURES ARE IN THESE REPORTS THAT ARE PROVIDED, BUT HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO THE PERFORMANCE OF WHAT WAS BUDGETED? SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.

SO SPECIFICALLY INTO THE APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS ARE THE EXPENDITURES AND REVENUES.

WOULD WANT THAT REPORT TO FOR THESE OTHER FUNDS? YEAH.

YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ALL OF THE FUNDS SIMILAR.

SO IF I'M UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, MA'AM, YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE THE REPORT THAT SAYS THIS IS THE REVENUE GENERAL FUND, YOU WOULD WANT REVENUE AIRPORT FUND, RIGHT? UM, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ASSETS, REPLACEMENTS.

AND THE SAME THING ON THE EXPENDITURES.

YOU HAVE THE REPORT OF THE DEPARTMENT EXPENDITURES MM-HMM .

BY MONTH YOU

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YEAH, WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH, WE COULD DO THAT THIS HIGH LEVEL AND, AND IT'LL HELP DURING THE BAR, THE BUDGET PROCESS AS WELL.

SO DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF COUNTS OF DECEMBER, 2024? SO MOVED.

AYE MRS. COLORS? AYE.

[K. Approval of Minutes - January 7th Regular Meeting ]

NEXT, UH, NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF A MINUTES FOR JANUARY 7TH REGULAR MEETING.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT? NOPE.

NOPE.

SO NEW BUSINESS CONSENT AGENDA.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? IT'S MOVED.

UM, SECOND, SECOND.

ROLL CALL MRS. COLORS.

[M. Consent Agenda ]

ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION? MR. CHAIRMAN? I'D LIKE TO PULL NUMBER 11.

FOR DISCUSSION.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO PULL ITEM NUMBER 13 FOR A QUICK DISCUSSION.

SO THAT'S, UH, ITEM NUMBER 11, THE, THE ROCKLAND PROJECT AWARD RECOMMENDATION AND ITEM 13, WHICH IS A 2025 BOARD OF SUPERVISORS COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS.

YEP, THAT'S IT.

SO THE, UH, YOU SEE, UH, ITEM 11, MS. MEADOWS, ARE YOU GONNA COMMENT, APPROVE THE, ARE YOU PREPARED? DON'T YOU APPROVE THE OTHERS FIRST? YEAH, WE, WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE EVERYTHING OTHER THAN, UH, 11 AND 13.

FIRST.

MR. CHAIRMAN.

OKAY, MR. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE EVERYTHING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA EXCEPT FOR ITEMS NUMBER 11 AND 13.

SO MOVED.

SECOND ROLL CALL MRS. COOK.

AYE MRS. COLORS? AYE.

ITEM ITEM NUMBER 11.

IN ORDER TO SEE WHAT SORT OF REVENUE STREAMS THEY'RE SEEING FROM THEIR SPORTS LEAGUES.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM SPECIFICALLY OR IF YOU COULD DO JUST A SHORT HISTORY, I WOULD LIKE THAT MM-HMM .

AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

SO THIS ITEM, UM, STEMS FROM THE, I THINK ORIGINALLY 2009, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE DEVELOPMENT FOR ROCKLAND PARK.

IT WAS A THREE PHASE PROJECT.

UM, THIS ITEM IS TIED TO PHASE TWO IN 2015 LPDA DRAFTED A CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH I HAVE.

I REALIZE THE VERSION THAT YOU HAD WAS A, NOT NOT A CONCEPT PLAN.

UM, BUT THE CONCEPT PLAN INCLUDES 47 PAGES OF PLANS, STORM WATER, DRAINAGE, UM, THE BUILD.

UM, HOWEVER IT IS NOT A CONSTRUCTION PLAN.

UM, LPDA WAS PURCHASED BY KIMLEY HORN AND RATHER THAN BASICALLY STARTING ALL OVER WITH A NEW PROVIDER, WE WOULD LIKE TO UTILIZE OUR CURRENT OR UTILIZE KIMLEY HORN TO BASICALLY REFRESH THE PROJECT.

UM, REGARDING WHAT MR. JAMESON AND I WERE DISCUSSING, IT WAS UM, THE TOURISM AND KIND OF HOW WE TARGET SPORTS TOURISM.

SO IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR, UM, MR. PETTY AND I SPOKE WITH UM, ONE OF THE PROJECT MANAGERS FROM FAIRFAX COUNTY IN ORDER TO BASICALLY TALK ABOUT WHAT PATHWAY THEY WENT THROUGH AND WHAT STUDIES THEY FOLLOWED IN ORDER TO DETERMINE BASICALLY WHAT THEY NEEDED IN FAIRFAX COUNTY AND HOW TO DIRECT THEIR PARKS TO REALLY DEVELOP, UH, A GENERATOR OF REVENUE, UM, THROUGH SPORTS TOURISM.

UM, IT WAS A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN YEARS UNDERTAKING.

UM, THEY ENDED UP GETTING $112 MILLION BOND.

UM, IT WENT THROUGH REFERENDUM.

SO THE UM, LOCALITY, THEY VOTED AND THEY WANTED TO DO IT.

SO A HUNDRED MILLION WENT TO THE PARKS AND THEN ANOTHER 12 MILLION WENT TO NOVA PARKS BECAUSE THEIR REGIONAL AND THEN COUNTY PARKS IN THE AREA.

UM, THEY'RE CONTINUING TO BUILD THEM AND NOT ALL OF THEM REALLY DRIVE TOURISM.

UM, BUT THAT IS DEFINITELY MORE MONEY THAN WE SEE HAPPENING HERE.

UM, WE'VE ALSO BEEN PARTNERING WITH DIFFERENT LOCALITIES

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UM, I THINK WHERE THERE'S A SOMEWHAT OF A DISCONNECT IS THERE ARE FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ACTUALLY COORDINATE THESE, UM, LEAGUES.

SO THAT FUNDING WOULD NOT COME TO THE COUNTY.

WHERE WE WOULD GENERATE REVENUE WOULD BE FROM RUNNING THE CONCESSIONS BECAUSE THE RENTAL OF THE FIELDS WOULD COVER OUR COSTS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE FIELDS, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE STAFF WHO ARE ABLE TO REALLY MANAGE THAT.

UM, SO THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WOULD GENERATE REVENUE, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE CRAZY REVENUE FOR US AS THE COUNTY OPERATIONS.

UM, WHERE WE'LL SEE THE ADDITIONAL KIND OF OVERFLOW IS WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN THE AREA, THEY'RE GONNA GO TO OUR RESTAURANTS, THEY'RE GONNA STAY IN HOTELS LOCALLY, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE RESTAURANTS AND HOTELS HERE IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THAT.

UM, IF WE WANT A FULL COMPREHENSIVE STUDY OF THAT, IT WILL INVOLVE A STUDY, A FULL STUDY.

IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IN HOUSE.

UM, BUT TO GIVE ACCURATE NUMBERS I WOULDN'T EVEN ATTEMPT TO GUESS.

HMM.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING THE, IN THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT BASICALLY IS IS DUSTING OFF A 10-YEAR-OLD PROJECT BECAUSE WE HAVE MADE SLIGHT CHANGES, A FEW THINGS.

WE'VE BEEN BASICALLY DUMPING DIRT ROCK, SOME OF THAT CHANGES THE TOPOGRAPHY FOR THE AREA AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLANS WE HAVE, IF WE SEND THEM OUT TO BID FOR THE PROJECT, THEY'RE ACCURATE.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

AND THEN CAN YOU ADDRESS THE CONSTRAINTS WE HAVE? YES.

SO THE GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED, IT'S A THREE YEAR GRANT.

THE CLOCK STARTED ON THAT OCTOBER 1ST, 2024.

SO WE HAVE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027 IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT AND GET REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE PROJECT.

AND THE OTHER CONSTRAINT IS THAT WE CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.

WELL IT WE CAN CHANGE MINOR THINGS.

THERE CAN'T BE, SO THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE PROJECT IS WHAT WASSUP SUBMITTED TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.

SO THAT WAS WHAT THE BASIS OF THE GRANT WAS.

CORRECT.

SO WE CAN'T WHOLESALE CHANGE OUR PLANS.

THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THE TAKEAWAY WAS FROM OUR EARLIER CONVERSATION.

CORRECT.

SO WE HAVE SOME CONSTRAINTS BUT RIGHT.

IT'S STILL A GRANT AND RIGHT.

AND I THINK PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY REALIZE THE BREADTH OF THE PARKS THAT THE COUNTY HAS.

WE HAVE THE SOCCER PLEX THAT HAS NINE FIELDS ON IT, SPECIFICALLY FOR SOCCER.

WE HAVE BASKETBALL, VOLLEYBALL, VARIOUS FIELDS THROUGHOUT THAT.

A LOT OF TIMES IT'S ONE COURT.

UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT MR. PETTY AND I DISCUSSED DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT AS WE HAVE THE FUNDS TO REDEVELOP PARKS, DO PARKS THAT ARE GEARED TOWARDS A SPORT SO YOU CAN ATTRACT LEAGUES.

'CAUSE YOU CAN'T SAY, ALRIGHT, WE HAVE THESE SIX DIFFERENT PARKS AND EACH OF YOU ARE GONNA GO TO A DIFFERENT ONE AND THEN KIND OF ROTATE THROUGH.

WHEREAS IF WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE CLUSTERED, WE COULD ACTUALLY DO THAT.

UM, SO THAT TAKES A LITTLE MORE PLANNING AND, UH, PROBABLY A LOT MORE TIME THAN OUR GRANT WOULD ALLOW.

NOW FOR AS FAR AS THESE RESOURCES IN TERMS OF UM, I GUESS YOU CAN COME STUDIES, BUT MM-HMM .

BUT RESOURCES FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE THERE, IS THERE ANY WAY SINCE THEY'RE PUBLIC ENTITIES TO KEY THEIR STUDIES TO SEE WHAT THEIR NUMBERS WERE TERMS? YES.

SO FAIR FAIRFAX COUNTIES WE HAVE.

MOST OF THEM ARE PUBLIC.

UM, SO WE HAVE THEM, WE CAN LOOK AT THEM, BUT THEY'RE TIED SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT'S IN THEIR JURISDICTION.

SURE.

YEAH.

UM, THEIR POPULATION.

UM, SO THERE ARE NUANCES YOU CAN GET MAYBE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OR LIKE, OH, WE SHOULD LOOK AT THESE THINGS.

UM, SO YOU DON'T WANT TO TIE EVERYTHING TO SOMEONE ELSE'S STUDY.

THAT'S WHY WE NEED MORE THAN ONE CERTAIN.

UM, BUT I, OKAY, GO AHEAD.

WE'RE GATHERING DATA FROM OTHER LOCALITIES.

UM, PAGE COUNTY HAS A SIMILAR COMPLEX, UM, OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION HAS BEEN PARTNERING WITH DIFFERENT LOCALITIES, UM, IN THE REGION IN ORDER TO GET INFORMATION FROM THEM IN ORDER TO SEE WHAT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT IS AND ALSO HOW DIFFERENT PEOPLE KEEP TRACK OF MONEY CAN MAKE THAT NUMBER A LITTLE DIFFERENT TOO.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND MY INTEREST IN, IN THIS, AND ASKING YOU TO ADDRESS THIS IS THAT, UM, THERE'S A, THIS IS A, WHAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING'S BEEN ON STARTED IN 15 YEARS AGO.

SO, AND IT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IT KEEPS GETTING DELAYED AND DELAYED AND DELAYED.

UM, I, IN, IN CONCEPT HOPE IT HAPPENS OR I SUPPORT IT, BUT I WANT TO, UH, HAVE A VERY SOLID FOUNDATION OF ECONOMIC BASIS FOR IT.

SO THAT I JUST MAKE BASICALLY MAKING THIS VISIBLE TO EVERYBODY SO THAT WE CAN KNOW, UH, THAT'S OUR MISSION.

IS TO JUSTIFY IT, UM, AND, AND KIND OF CREATE A VISION AND, AND EDUCATE FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T AWARE OF THE YOUTH SPORTS SITUATION.

HOW DEDICATED PARENTS ARE AND HOW INTERESTED PARENTS ARE IN HAVING THEIR, THEIR KIDS, UH, CHANNELED INTO WHAT IS, IS MAYBE ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA SAY THAT ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE FEW ACTIVITIES AVAILABLE TO THEM THAT ALLOW, YOU KNOW, TEACH THEM METAPHORS IN LIFE AND, UH, THEY'RE HEALTHY PHYSICALLY, HEALTHY MENTALLY, AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

AND, UH,

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SO, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS I JUST WANT TO BE, UM, IN UPFRONT AND TRANSPARENT AS THIS WHOLE THING GOES FORWARD IS TRYING TO, TO MAKE SURE THE COUNTY HAS A VERY GOOD BASIS AND ECONOMICS FOR IT.

SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR.

UM, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, JUST COMMENTS.

SO, UM, HOW MUCH, WHAT INVOLVEMENT DO WE HAVE PARKS AND REC WITH THIS? BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAID THE COSTS WILL BE FOR PARKS AND RECS, SO ONCE THIS FACILITY IS COMPLETED, THE O AND M WILL BE COMING OUT OF THE PARKS AND RECS BUDGET.

ACTUALLY, IT WOULD BE COMING AFTER MR. OUT OF MR. BARRY'S BUDGET.

UM, ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS WAS SHIFTED TO PUBLIC WORKS A LITTLE OVER, I GUESS A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

UM, SO HE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

HE'S LIKE, YOU REALIZE WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE DEDICATED STAFF, UM, FOR SUCH A LARGE COMPLEX, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALIZE WHEN YOU EXPAND SOMETHING, YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT IT.

SO IT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL FTES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAINTAINING FIELDS FOR A COMPLEX.

WE HAVE BASICALLY TWO PART-TIMERS THAT MAINTAIN OUR CURRENT FIELDS, AND THEY WOULD BE ABOUT HALF OF THE SIZE OF THE UPCOMING FIELDS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING ONE FULL-TIME PERSON.

DEFINITELY AT, AT THE LEAST, AT MINIMUM.

HENCE THE, YEAH, NO, I WAS JUST SAY HENCE THE NEED FOR THE BUSINESS CASE.

I KNOW, RIGHT.

UM, SO THE REVENUE MM-HMM .

THAT IS BEING COLLECTED, IS THAT GONNA BE, UH, PUT INTO THE PARKS AND REC FUND? MRS. SCOTT CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO THIS BETTER.

SO CURRENTLY ALL REVENUE GENERATED THROUGH PARKS AND REC ACTUALLY GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

BUT THEN WHEN WE DO OUR BUDGETS, THEN THEY SHOW THAT THEY GET SO MUCH REVENUE THAT OFFSETS THEIR EXPENSES SOMEWHAT.

SO, SO, UH, SO THE EXPENSE, SO THE REVENUE THAT WE GET FROM RENTING THE FACILITIES AND SELLING FOOD AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF GOES INTO THE PARK AND REC OH, YOU HAVEN'T THOUGHT, YOU HAVEN'T THOUGHT THAT FAR AHEAD YET? NO, IT GOES BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND, HOWEVER, IT DOES OFFSET THEIR BUDGET.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND NO DIFFERENT THAN THE FEES THAT PLANNING GETS FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR ZONING.

NO DIFFERENT THAN THE FEES THAT, UM, UH, BUILDING INSPECTION GETS, YOU KNOW, SO THE SAME CONCEPT, WELL, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, MA'AM, BECAUSE AS SHE MENTIONED, PUBLIC WORKS MAINTAINS THE FIELDS, PARKS, RECREATION, THEY PROVIDE THE RECREATION COORDINATOR, THEY PAY.

ONE OF THE, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR, IT CAME TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE OF THE LOCAL TEAMS WHO JUST WANTED A PLACE TO GO PLAY SOFTBALL RATHER THAN, AND ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS THEY GAVE YOU WAS THAT THE TRAVEL TEAMS TAKE THE FIELDS.

EVERY YEAR, YOU PAY MORE MONEY TO PARKS AND REC THAN WHAT YOU RECEIVE IN REVENUE.

AND THAT RESULTED OF PARKS AND REC TO PRIORITIZE OUR FIELDS FOR LOCAL, UM, LEAGUES.

SO THAT WAS THE, THE THOUGHT WAS THAT YOU SHOULD PRIORITIZE FOR LOCAL FIELDS BECAUSE LOCAL PEOPLE RIGHT.

ARE PLAYING IT.

AND THAT REVENUE, IF WE ARE PROVIDING THE UMPIRES, REFEREES, ET CETERA, IN DIFFERENT SPORTS SPECIALISTS WHO WORK IN THERE, WE PAY THEM WITH THESE FUNDS.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

BUT THEN WE ALSO MAINTAIN THE FIELDS, SO WITH THOSE FUNDS, SO WE USE THEM IN BOTH PLACES, AND WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND HOW THE BOARD IS GOING TO WANT TO BALANCE THOSE.

EXAMPLE, YOU HAD THE ARGUMENTS ABOUT THE USES OF THE BING.

NOW THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TEAMS THAT USE THE BANG.

THERE'S ONLY ONE TEAM THAT MAKES MONEY FROM THE BANG.

EVERYBODY ELSE JUST CONTRIBUTES AND THEY'RE JUST PAYING TO MAINTAIN IT IS ALL THEIR PAYING IN THEIR FEES.

THERE'S ONLY THE OUTSIDE GROUP'S THE ONLY ONE THAT ACTUALLY MAKES MONEY.

SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT RATHER THAN PARKS AND REC.

PARKS AND REC.

YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET

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OH YEAH.

THAT'S A LOT OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL.

NOT JUST PARK AND REC.

YOU'RE SUPPORTING, YOU'RE SUPPORTING THAT DEPARTMENT.

AND YOU ALLOCATE THAT.

SO WHEN YOU DECIDE TO USE IT FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN LOCAL, THEN YOU HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT HOW IS IT GOING TO GENERATE ENOUGH REVENUE THAT'S NON-LOCAL TO PAY FOR IT SO THE LOCAL TEAM DOESN'T HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE IT.

AND THAT BECOMES PART OF THE EQUATION THAT BECOMES, THAT BECOMES THE, UM, ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY.

YEP.

WELL, JUST FOR RECORD, YOU KNOW, WE, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE STRUCTURED THE SAME WAY, WHERE THE GENERAL FUND PAYS FOR THE YES, MA'AM.

THE BALANCE.

IT'S NOT JUST PARKS AND REC.

NOT JUST PARKS AND REC.

DALEY, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU, YOU WANTED TO ADD? NO, SIR.

THAT WAS OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.

ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I, OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION.

I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE SOLE SOURCE AWARD OF KIMLEY HORNE AND ASSOCIATES, INC.

FOUR $57,283 ON BEHALF OF WARREN COUNTY AND AUTHORIZED THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IN ORDER TO OBTAIN SUCH SERVICES.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ROLL CALL MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MR. STANIER? AYE.

MR. CHAIRMAN? AYE.

DR.

JAMESON A MRS. COOK? AYE.

ITEM 13.

THE, UM, THE COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS.

THANKS.

SO I HAVE, UM, JUST ONE MINOR PROPOSED CHANGE AND I'VE, UH, SOCIALIZED THIS WITH THE IMPACTED PEOPLE.

UH, BUT FOR THE TECHNOLOGY REVIEW COMMITTEE, I WOULD PROPOSE TO AMEND THAT, UM, TO TAKE MY NAME OFF OF IT AND PUT SUPERVISOR COOK IN MY PLACE.

I AGREE.

AND THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, UH, ONE OTHER CHANGE FOR, UH, UH, ZACH, AND THAT'S TO ADD, UH, SUPERVISOR JAMISON TO THE, UH, PARKS AND REC IS THE ALTERNATE.

I MEANT TO CALL YOU THE, UH, THIS AFTERNOON.

YOU WERE OUT TO LUNCH AND THEN I I FORGOT TO CALL YOU BACK.

OKAY, MS. COLOR.

YOU ARE YOU GOOD? I'M GOOD, THANK YOU.

SO DO I HAVE A MOTION I MOVE TO, UH, PASS THE COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS AS LISTED WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES? UM, FIRST TO ADD RICH AS A BACKUP, UH, SORRY.

SUPERVISOR JAMESON AS A BACKUP FOR PARKS AND REC, UH, IS THE ALTERNATE.

AND SECONDLY, ON THE TECHNOLOGY REVIEW COMMITTEE TO REPLACE JOHN STAN MEYER WITH VICTORIA COOK.

IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS?

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

SO THE, LET ME SEE.

WE'VE GOT ITEM IN, WHICH IS THE LIBRARY BOARD.

WHO HAS THAT? WHO HAS THAT? YOU GOT IT? OH, YOU WANT? YEAH, DO YOU HAVE IT? OKAY.

SO, UM, THIS IS, GO AHEAD.

DO DO WE HAVE ANY, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS OR USUALLY WE GET A MOTION AND THEN, ALL RIGHT, LET'S, LET'S DO THE MOTION.

I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MAKE THE FOLLOWING APPOINTMENTS TO THE WARREN COUNTY LIBRARY BOARD EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.

FRANK GRIM FOR ONE YEAR TERM.

DEAN WA QUEZ.

JACKS.

JACKS, THANK YOU FOR A TWO, TWO YEAR TERM.

UM, MYSELF, VICKI COOK FOR A THREE YEAR TERM.

ERIC BELK FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM.

AND VERONICA, VERONICA RANI FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM.

I'LL SECOND THAT YOU HAVE A DISCUSSION.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, LOOKS LIKE NO DISCUSSION.

UH, ROLL CALL MRS. COLORS.

[N. Additional New Business ]

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NOT FOR ME.