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AND, UM, I WILL CALL THE ROLE MRS. COLORS HERE.
SO WE ARE NOW ON SESSION AND BRIGHT SPEED ALONG WITH A PB WILL BOTH HAVE APPLICATIONS FOR YOU TO REVIEW FOR THE BEAD FUNDING.
BEAD HAS NO LOCAL MATCH, AND IT'S JUST A FEDERAL POT OF MONEY THAT THE STATE HAS RECEIVED SPECIFICALLY FOR BROADBAND AND ANY IMPLICATIONS OF THAT MONEY WITH FEDERAL RESET? THAT'S UP TO THEM.
WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT, AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT THEY HAVE.
UM, SO CURRENTLY WE'RE, WE'RE WAITING FOR RURAL RIDGE, UH, COMMUNITY COLLEGE, AND, UH, JUST STANDING BY LAUREL RIDGE, UH, INCIDENTALLY IS ONE OF THE FEW ON YOUR LIST THAT IS ACTUALLY ASKING FOR LESS MONEY, ALONG WITH THE WARREN COALITION THAT YOU TALKED TO LAST TIME.
UH, BOTH OF THEM, THEY HAVE SLIGHTLY LESS.
UM, THIS REQUEST IS TOTALLY BASED ON THE PORTION OF THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WHO ATTEND FROM THE JURISDICTION.
AND OUR ALLOCATION TO THE FUND IS, UH, $41,205 COMPARED TO THE CURRENT YEAR.
AND YOU HAVE A LITTLE BUDGET FROM THE COLLEGE THAT SHOWS YOU WHERE THIS MONEY IS USED.
UH, BACK HERE, THE PRIMARY PURPOSES IS SCHOLARSHIPS, AND THEY'RE ALWAYS A YEAR, UH, IN ARREARS.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR, TO REIMBURSE THE FUND FOR WHAT THEY SPENT FOR THE SCHOLARSHIPS THIS PAST YEAR.
SO THAT ALLOCATION FORMULA, UH, I NOTICED THEY HAVE, UH, ENROLLMENT, UH, UNDUPLICATED INDIVIDUALS ON THE, UH, FOUR CREDIT AND THE NON-CREDIT.
UH, I'M JUST WONDERING, DOES, UH, THE ENROLLMENT ALLOCATION BETWEEN THE COUNTIES, UH, BASE IT ON BOTH OF THOSE TYPES OF STUDENTS OR ONE TYPE? UH, I BELIEVE BOTH.
THAT'S A QUESTION FOR MR. THOMPSON, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S BOTH TYPES OF STUDENTS.
I BELIEVE THEY ARE BOTH IN THERE.
AND THE NON, THE CERTIFICATE PROGRAMS, THE CONTINUED EDUCATION, UH, THAT IS GROWING LEAPS AND BOUNDS, UH, WE ARE, UM, WELL, WE'LL LET MR. GARRISON TELL US ABOUT THAT.
HE'S, MR. GARRISON IS HERE FOR THIS SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER AT LAUREL RIDGE.
AND SINCE MR. THOMPSON ISN'T HERE YET, YOU MIGHT WANNA LET HIM GO AHEAD, SIR.
[A. 5:00PM - 5:20PM - Budget Request - Laurel Ridge Community College]
RIGHT.I AM CORY THOMPSON, VICE PRESIDENT FOR FINANCE ADMINISTRATION AT LAUREL RIDGE COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
HOPEFULLY THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
I BROUGHT ME TOGETHER A PRESENTATION JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK OUTLINE ON A REQUEST FOR THE FISCAL YEAR.
UH, THE FIRST PAGE JUST SHOWS YOU THE FORMULA FOR OUR REQUEST, AND I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN THE FULL PACKET, UH, BUT OUR REQUEST FOR THE FISCAL YEAR THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY OUR COLLEGE BOARD, WHICH DOES INCLUDE MR. ED DALEY.
UH, THAT IS THE PRORATED PORTION OF ENROLLMENT FOR LAUREL RIDGE, UH, BASED ON A $364,000 BUDGET.
SO IT'S NOT AN INCREASE TO OUR BUDGET.
UH, SOMETIMES THERE IS FLUCTUATION TO THE CALCULATION JUST BASED ON ENROLLMENT CHANGES THAT MAY GO UP AND DOWN,
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UH, BY COUNTY EACH YEAR.SO WE APPRECIATE ALL THEIR SUPPORT.
WARREN COUNTY'S PROVIDED US, UH, YEAR TO YEAR.
THE NEXT PAGE, JUST GENERALLY ON THE FORMAT FOR OUR COLLEGE BOARD BUDGET THAT SHOWS WHERE THESE FUNDS, UH, ARE USED AT THE COLLEGE.
THIS IS A SIMPLIFIED FORMAT TO ANY PRIOR YEARS.
IF YOU'VE SEEN PRIOR YEAR REQUESTS, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN MORE LINE ITEMS. UH, THOSE LINE ITEMS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND REVISED.
AND WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS WHAT YOU SEE ON THIS PAGE.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDS, UH, WHICH IS NOW I BELIEVE IS 60% OF THE FUNDING GOES DIRECTLY TOWARDS, UH, COLLEGE SCHOLARSHIPS.
AND THESE ARE AWARDED TWO, UH, GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.
UH, SO THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS COMING OUTTA WARREN COUNTY WOULD GET THESE SCHOLARSHIPS AND THEY'D USE IT THE FOLLOWING YEAR, UH, FOR FULL TUITION AT LAUREL RIDGE.
UH, ASIDE FROM THAT, THERE IS A SMALL PORTION FOR LOCAL BOARD SUPPORT.
UH, THIS FUNDS ESSENTIALLY MEMBERSHIPS AND MEETINGS FOR OUR COLLEGE BOARD.
AND THEN THERE'S SUPPORT FOR FACULTY AND STAFF DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING FOR THE COLLEGE TO SUPPORT MORE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR FACULTY AND STAFF, UH, WHICH MANY OF WHOM RESIDE IN WARREN COUNTY.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE STUDENT EXCELLENCE AND SUPPORT.
A LOT OF THIS IS SUPPLEMENTING COLLEGE BUDGETS TO HELP US COVER, UH, ENHANCE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES FOR OUR STUDENTS TO PAY FOR THINGS THAT MAYBE STATE FUNDS WOULDN'T USUALLY COVER.
TRAVEL TO COMPETITIONS FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE ENGAGED IN, UH, DRONE COMPETITIONS OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WHICH IS GOOD.
UH, AND THAT TOTAL IS $64,000 FOR NON-SCHOLARSHIP FUNDING THAT'S SHARED ACROSS ALL THE COUNTIES.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A SNAPSHOT, AND THIS IS PART OF OUR COLLEGE IMPACT REPORT, UH, JUST SHOWING A LITTLE BIT OF THE DATA, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW LAUREL RIDGE IMPACTS THE, THE COMMUNITY AND THE ECONOMY IN THE AREA.
YOU CAN SEE SOME FACTS AND FIGURES ABOUT HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE ENROLLED, UH, FROM WARREN COUNTY AND ALSO HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WE HAVE THAT LIVE IN WARREN COUNTY OF 25 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, 40 PART-TIME COLLEGE EMPLOYEES.
A LOT OF THE PART-TIME ARE ACTUALLY ADJUNCT PROFESSORS.
THIS IS PROFESSORS THAT TEACH PART-TIME FOR US.
WE CONSIDER THEM PART-TIME EMPLOYEES THAT LIVE IN WARREN COUNTY.
AND YOU SEE SOME SUCCESS STORIES.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE A FEW CASE STUDIES OF STUDENTS.
AND HAVING MET SYDNEY, UH, PATTON, I ORIGINALLY THOUGHT SHE WAS AN EMPLOYEE OF OURS.
SHE'S SO, THE WAY SHE PRESENTS HERSELF, UH, BUT THERE ARE SOME OF THOSE STUDENTS THAT HAVE REALLY DONE A GREAT JOB AND STOOD OUT IN THEIR SUCCESS, UH, RESIDING HERE IN WARREN COUNTY AND COMING TO LOWER RIDGE, EITHER AT OUR FAKI OR CAMPUS, OR OUR MIDDLETOWN CAMPUS.
SO, JUST A BRIEF PRESENTATION, WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT, GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE REGARDING THE THIS YEAR'S REQUEST.
THE, UH, FUNDING REQUEST FORMULA, THE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS IS, DOES THAT INCLUDE ALL TYPES OF STUDENTS? SO, UH, FOR CREDIT, NOT FOR CREDIT, AND THEN DUAL ENROLLMENT AND ALSO HIGH SCHOOL.
UH, FOR COLLEGE CREDIT, THIS WOULD INCLUDE FOUR CREDIT, WHICH WOULD ALSO INCLUDE DUAL ENROLLMENT, BUT IT WOULD NOT INCLUDE OUR WORKFORCE STUDENTS.
THE WORKFORCE BY LEGISLATION HAS TO BE SELF-SUSTAINING THROUGH THEIR OWN REVENUE GENERATION, AND THAT'S WHAT COVERS, UH, THEIR BUDGET.
DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT FUNDING REQUEST FORMULA.
DO, UH, I KNOW THAT YOU, YOU'VE GOT STUDENTS WHO ARE COMING FROM WEST VIRGINIA AND POSSIBLY EVEN, UH, MARYLAND.
AND DO YOU HAVE A SEPARATE THING FOR THEM OR A SEPARATE FORMULA OR ANYTHING? NO, TH THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ASK FOR FUNDING THROUGH THOSE COUNTIES, BUT THESE ARE, IF THEY'RE, IF THERE'RE IT'S A HANDFUL OF STUDENTS.
THE, UM, THE 7 63 I, I'M LOOKING AT YOUR, YOUR MIDDLE BLUE BOX HERE.
UM, IS IT, ARE THERE 763 STUDENTS AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL 324 DUAL DUAL ENROLLED, OR IS IT 324 OF THE 763 B 324 IS INCLUDED IN THE 763? YES.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IMPACT REPORT, YOU KNOW, MAY BE AN ACADEMIC YEAR, WHEREAS ENROLLMENT MAY BE A FISCAL YEAR.
SO THIS DEPENDS ON WHICH REPORT WE'RE RUNNING AS FAR AS THIS.
Y YOU SEE SOME, SOME CHANGES BETWEEN THE
HOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA THIS, THIS IS JUST ROUGHLY YEAH, HOW MANY ARE DUAL ENROLLMENT TAKING, YOU CALL IT THE COURSE FROM THEIR HIGH SCHOOL VERSUS THOSE THAT ARE TAKING ON CAMPUS WITH THE YEAH.
OLDER STUDENTS? SO WE HAVE SORT OF THREE TYPES OF DUAL ENROLLMENT, AND THE VAST MAJORITY, I THINK 80% IS IN THE HIGH SCHOOLS TO TAUGHT BY HIGH SCHOOL CREDENTIALED HIGH SCHOOL TEACHERS IN THE HIGH SCHOOL.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE GOVERNOR'S SCHOOLS.
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SO STUDENTS COME AND ARE TAUGHT BY HIGH SCHOOL TEACHERS ON OUR CAMPUS, UH, AS GOVERNOR'S SCHOOL STUDENTS.AND WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL, UH, CONCURRENT ENROLLMENT, WHICH IS THEY ARE SITTING IN A CLASSROOM NEXT TO A TRADITIONAL COLLEGE STUDENT AND TAKING A COURSE FOR DUAL ENROLLMENT IN THAT CAPACITY.
UH, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD LEGISLATION THAT THERE IS, YOU KNOW, AN A BILL FOR FREE DUAL ENROLLMENT, THE FORTHCOMING IN TO BE ENACTED IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO YEARS, DEPENDING ON WHAT GETS PASSED IN THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
WE WERE HOPING THAT WOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH A, IT'S THE LEGISLATION IN, IN REFERENCES A FUND, UH, TO FUND WHAT OUR COSTS FOR FREE DUAL ENROLLMENT.
BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE HAVE NOT INCLUDED ANY FUNDING FOR THAT.
SO THAT IS A VERY BIG IMPACT GIVEN THAT LAUREL RIDGE, COMPARED TO MOST COMMUNITY COLLEGES, HAS A FAIRLY LARGE PERCENTAGE OF OUR ENROLLMENT COMES THROUGH DUAL ENROLLMENT.
ABOUT A THIRD OF OUR DUAL ENROLLMENT OF OUR ENROLLMENT OF OUR, WHAT WE CALL FTES, FULL-TIME EQUIVALENTS COME FROM DUAL ENROLLMENT.
SO A BIG IMPACT TO THE COLLEGE, AND CERTAINLY A CHALLENGE FOR ME AND MY JOB AND HOW WE MAKE UP THAT REV THAT REVENUE AND THOSE FEES.
UH, SO CERTAINLY EVERY DOLLAR WE HAVE COUNTS GOING FORWARD GIVEN THAT STATEWIDE CHANGE THAT'S BEING, UH, COMING DOWN UPON US.
YEAH, I CAN, I CAN SEE HOW THAT WOULD BE THE CASE.
IS, IS THE, IS DUAL ENROLLMENT KIND OF IN A CERTAIN SENSE TAKING THE PLACE OF OR FIELD OF FULFILLING THE ROLE? WHAT AP, UM, COURSE WORK USED TO? YEAH, SOME, SOME COUNTIES, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, WHERE I LIVE IN LOUDOUN COUNTY IS VERY HEAVY ON THE AP, YOU KNOW, FAIR COUNTY AS WELL.
UH, THIS REGION RELIES HEAVILY ON DUAL ENROLLMENT AND CERTAINLY, UH, SOME MORE RURAL COUNTIES RELY HEAVILY ON DUAL ENROLLMENT.
AND PART OF LEGISLATION WILL BE THAT THERE'S A CERTIFICATION FOR DUAL ENROLLMENT THAT YOU CAN GET THE UCGS AND, UH, MANY COLLEGES WILL OFFER ONLINE, SORRY, I'LL TRY TO, WILL OFFER ONLINE PROGRAMS AS WELL TO PROVIDE, LET'S SAY YOU CAN'T, THAT THAT HIGH SCHOOL MAY NOT HAVE A CREDENTIALED PSYCHOLOGY PROFESSOR OR, OR TEACHER WHO HAS A MASTER'S DEGREE OR HAS ENOUGH HOURS POST-GRADUATE HOURS TO OFFER IT.
SO WE'LL ALSO OFFER ONLINE COURSES FOR STUDENTS SO THEY CAN FINISH THEIR UCGS AND GET THEIR, ESSENTIALLY THEIR ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE.
I DUNNO, WHY DID THIS, IT'S ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE, UH, BEFORE THEY FINISH HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS A BIG PART OF THAT AS WELL, IS, IS IT WITH DUAL ENROLLMENT, THEY'RE, ARE THEY ALWAYS GETTING COLLEGE CREDIT EVEN IF THEY'RE IN THE HIGH SCHOOL? YES.
AND ARE THEY GETTING, DOES DO AP PROGRAMS GRANT COLLEGE CREDIT? I BELIEVE AP, I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THIS REGARD, BUT I THINK AP HAS TO BE LIKE, YOU HAVE TO PASS A TEST AND THEN YOU CAN GET QUALIFIED AT CERTAIN SCHOOLS WITH SAY LIKE, OH, IF YOU HAVE A FOUR OR A FIVE, YOU CAN THEN, IT MIGHT NOT BE CREDIT, BUT YOU, IT QUALIFIES SOME REQUISITE FOR YOUR DEGREE.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS? EXCELLENT.
[B. 5:20PM - 5:40PM - Budget Request - Small Business Development Center]
SO NEXT WE HAVE, UH, THE SMALL BUSINESS TO DEVELOPMENT FROM MOORE RIDGE.FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE.
UH, I AM OFFICIALLY ON WEEK TWO OF THE SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER.
UH, YOU MAY REMEMBER CHRISTINE CRI BABY CAME BEFORE YOU AND ASKED FOR FUNDING IN THE PAST.
UH, I HAVE SOME MIGHTY IMPRESSIVE SHOES TO FILL, AND I'M EXCITED TO DO SO.
I'M A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF THE SHENANDOAH VALLEY.
I GRADUATED FROM HANLEY HIGH SCHOOL.
UH, ROANOKE COLLEGE IS MY ALMA MATER.
AND, UM, FOUND MY WAY BACK HERE AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AT THE SMALL, UM, WORKED, UH, OWNED THE WINCHESTER BOOK GALLERY, WORKED AT THE SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER, AND THEN WITH THE RANCHES FAMILY, AND EVENTUALLY FOUND MYSELF BACK AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE RAISING MONEY THROUGH THE FOUNDATION.
I'M NOW WITH THE SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER, AGAIN, EAGER TO GIVE SUPPORT TO OUR COMMUNITY, UH, THROUGH OUR SMALL BUSINESSES.
AND JUST AS A REMINDER FOR ANY OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER, WE ARE A NETWORK OF PARTNERSHIP, UH, WITH THE US SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION.
UH, WE ARE FUNDED THROUGH THEM THROUGH A FEDERAL GRANT THAT GOES THROUGH GEORGE MASON UNIVERSITY, WHICH THEN IS SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STATE.
THERE'S 25 CENTERS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STATE OF VIRGINIA.
WE HAPPEN TO BE THE CENTRAL AREA THAT COVERS HERE, UH, WARREN CLARK FOCKER, FREDERICK SHENANDOAH, AND OF COURSE THE CITY OF WINCHESTER.
WE ARE NAMED LAUREL RIDGE, BUT WE ARE HOUSED AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
OUR FUNDING IS AN IN, KIND THROUGH THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE, UM, THE SPACE, AND, UH, OCCASIONALLY SOME PRINTING SERVICES, BUT ALL OF OUR FUNDING COMES FROM THE FEDERAL SIDE AND THEN LOCAL CATCH CASH MATCH.
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OF THESE DIFFERENT ENTITIES, UH, WE PROVIDE FREE ONE-ON-ONE COUNSELING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY BUSINESS OR PERSON WANTING TO GO INTO BUSINESS TO COME AND SIT DOWN WITH US AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE RIGHT STEPS FOR SUCCESS.AND SUCCESS CAN BE TERMED IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.
SUCCESS COULD BE THAT THEY'RE NOT READY TO BE A BUSINESS YET, SAVING THEIR 401K, STILL SURVIVING AND BEING A, A RESIDENT OF THE COMMUNITY, OR THEY ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD GETTING A BRICKS AND MORTAR LOCATION, OR EXPANDING THEIR BUSINESS OR LOOKING FOR FUNDING TO DO EVEN MORE WITH THEIR BUSINESS IDEA THAT THEY'VE GOT.
AND ALL OF THAT IS ABSOLUTELY COMPLETELY FREE.
SO, RETAIL BUSINESSES, SERVICE PROVIDERS, CONSTRUCTION WORKERS, AGRIBUSINESS.
WE HAVE A BIG AGRICULTURAL CONFERENCE COMING UP IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, UH, THAT SHOW A LITTLE OVER A DOZEN.
UH, WARREN COUNTY RESIDENTS ARE JOINING US FOR THAT EVENT, WHICH IS A FREE EVENT BEING PUT ON BY THIS AREA THROUGH, UH, FARM CREDIT.
AND THEN, UH, WINCHESTER GROUP IS HELPING US WITH THAT.
WE HAVE FOLKS THAT HELP WITH THE CRAFT BREWING INDUSTRY, WITH THE TECH INDUSTRY.
I MAY BE ONE OF TWO PEOPLE IN OUR OFFICE, BUT WE HAVE A NETWORK OF PEOPLE THAT ABSOLUTELY KNOW AS MUCH ABOUT SMALL BUSINESS LABELED UNDER 500 EMPLOYEES THAT WE CAN HELP WITH.
ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE JUST IN OUR LITTLE OFFICE, UH, LAUREL RIDGE, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, FEDERAL, STATE, PURCHASING, FINANCE, ACCOUNTING.
THOSE TEND TO BE THE BIG ONES THAT WE WORK WITH QUITE A BIT.
UH, CONSULTING FREE SEMINARS AND SPECIALTY PROGRAMS. WE WORK QUITE A BIT WITH, UM, NIKKI FOSTER HERE IN THE AREA TO WORK WITH OUR SMALL BUSINESSES THROUGH THE CHAMBER.
LAST YEAR, OUR OFFICE SAW 434 INDIVIDUALS, UH, THROUGH HERE IN WARREN.
WE SPENT 93 HOURS WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
SEVEN NEW JOBS CREATED $293,000 IN NEW LOANS OBTAINED, AND 160,000 IN THE SALES INCREASE FROM THOSE BUSINESSES THAT WE SAW.
WE ASK THE INDIVIDUALS TO REPORT THEMSELVES THIS INFORMATION.
SO I'M A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS ABOUT REPORTING BACK TO GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, SO I ALWAYS SAY THAT THESE ARE PROBABLY GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, UM, JUST BASED ON WHAT WE SEE.
LAST YEAR WE HAD A CONTRIBUTION, WHICH WAS EXTREMELY GENEROUS OF $2,500.
UM, AND SO WE ARE, UM, HERE TO ASK FOR SIMILAR FUNDING AGAIN.
UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR WEBSITE RIGHT OVER HERE.
THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE THE USEFUL LINKS COMING BACK TO WARREN COUNTY SO THAT WE CAN SHOW THE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT GO TO OUR SITE THAT WE ARE SUPPORTIVE AND WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE RESOURCES FOR THEM HERE IN THIS AREA.
IT'S A LITTLE SMALL OVER HERE, BUT I CAN EASILY GET YOU GUYS, UM, UH, COPIES IF YOU'D LIKE THIS.
WE HAVE ALMOST 75 REGISTRATIONS COMING IN.
THIS IS OUR SECOND YEAR WE'VE PUT THIS ON.
UM, AND WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE RESPONSE FROM IT.
UM, FARM-BASED BUSINESSES, CRAFT BREWING BUSINESSES, UH, HOMESTEADING, UH, SEEM TO BE THE ONES THAT ARE COMING OUT FOR IT, AND THEY'RE COMING OUT REALLY, REALLY STRONGLY, WHICH WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT.
SO WE ARE ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASE, IF POSSIBLE, THIS YEAR, $6,000 TO HELP COVER THE COST FOR ADDITIONAL TRAININGS IN THIS AREA, ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS AND SPECIALTY PROGRAMS. I'D LIKE TO GET THAT NUMBER FROM 33 UP TO 60 TO 70 IN THIS AREA, AND WE WOULD JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE FUNDING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
UH, OUR TYPICAL RESOURCES AROUND THE AREA LOOK AT ABOUT A 25 CENTS PER PERSON BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTS IN THE AREA.
UH, WE ARE AT 6 CENTS RIGHT NOW.
I'D LOVE TO BE AT 15 CENTS, WHICH WOULD GET US CLOSE A LITTLE OVER THE 6,000.
BUT I THINK 6,000 IS A STRONG OPTION FOR US, UH, TO REALLY BRING SOME THINGS BACK TO THIS AREA.
THAT 2,500 IS A FANTASTIC OPPORTUNITY.
WE'D JUST LOVE TO DO MORE, UH, AND THE FUNDING WILL HELP US DO THAT.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW.
UH, WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER.
AND I SAY WE, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE IS A TEAM.
UH, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THEY GET THE CREDIT AS WELL.
SO, UM, SO HOW MANY BUSINESSES WERE STARTED IN WARREN COUNTY LAST YEAR? YEAH, SO WE HAD, I'LL GO BACK HERE.
WE HAD, FROM THE PEOPLE THAT WE SAW AND REPORTED BACK TO US MM-HMM
I UNDERSTAND NOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S MORE.
WE SAW FOUR NEW STARTUPS OCCUR LAST YEAR.
NEW STARTUPS, BUSINESS, NEW START IN THIS AREA.
UH, WE HAD 13, UH, NO, WE HAD SEVEN NEW JOBS CREATED, UH, ZERO RETAINED.
THAT MEANS FOLKS WERE KEEPING THEIR STANDARDS.
AND THEN OF COURSE, NEW LOANS OBTAINED IN THIS AREA, 293,000.
ARE THOSE LOANS, UH, SBA LOANS OR USDA OR OTHER SOURCES? COULD BE.
UM, I, UH, CHRISTINE WAS INVOLVED WITH A LOT OF THEM, BUT THEY COULD BE SBA, THEY ALSO COULD BE GENERAL, JUST TYPICAL FINANCING.
UH, WE WILL TYPICALLY WORK WITH THE INDIVIDUAL TO SEE IF THEY ARE A BEST FIT FOR THE SBA, AND SOMETIMES THEY ARE, AND SOMETIMES THEY COULD GO TRADITIONAL ROUTE FOR IT, PEOPLE INC.
OTHER RESOURCES IN THE AREA THAT WE WORK WITH AS WELL.
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THANK YOU.UM, YEAH, WHAT WOULD AN EXAMPLE OF TRAININGS BE? YOU WERE, YOU WERE MENTIONING SOME ADDITIONAL CALLS THERE.
YEAH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SIT DOWN WITH OUR BUSINESS OWNERS AND LISTEN TO WHAT WE'RE ASKING, WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
WE ACTUALLY SIT DOWN WITH, WITH OUR, UH, LEADERS IN THE AREA AS WELL.
UH, SOCIAL MEDIA COUNSELING, DOING BUSINESS WITH THE GOVERNMENT, UH, SESSIONS WE'VE DONE BEFORE.
UH, IF THERE'S ANY INTEREST IN INTERNATIONAL TRADE, WE SIT DOWN AND DO CLASSES WITH THEM.
WE BRING FOLKS IN FROM THE DC AREA.
UH, WE HAVE PROBABLY ABOUT A DOZEN TO TWO DOZEN DIFFERENT CLASSES.
MOST OF THEM THAT SORT OF WORK AROUND THESE CONSULTATION SORT OF, UH, BULLET POINTS FOR FEE FOR FOUR FEE TRAINING SERVICES THAT YOU USE TO HELP THEM GET TRAINED.
IS THAT SO IT COULD, IT'S TWO ROUTES THAT WE LOOK AT.
ONE IS THAT IF WE HAVE A HARD COST WITH IT, MEANING THAT THE INDIVIDUAL COMING TO TALK IS GOING TO CHARGE SOMETHING, THAT WE WOULD CHARGE SOMETHING ONLY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET TO NECESSARILY DO THAT.
HOWEVER, WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO IS FREE SEMINARS.
WE TRY TO DO OUR SEMINARS OURSELVES OR BRING IN FOLKS WITHIN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY THAT ARE EXPERTS IN THE FIELD TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT OUR SIM WALL BUSINESSES.
UM, AND WE, WE HAVE HAD STRONG TURNOUTS IN THE PAST, UH, FOR OUR EVENTS.
AND LIKE I SAID, THE AGRICULTURAL, UH, CONFERENCE THAT'S COMING UP THAT'S HOUSED AT LAUREL RIDGE, BUT IT'S OPEN TO ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME.
UH, AND 75 INDIVIDUALS WITH ABOUT A DOZEN COMING FROM WARREN COUNTY.
UM, AND THAT COULD BE FOLKS WHO ARE JUST LOOKING TO GET IN OR FOLKS THAT HAVE A, UM, FAMILY FARM OR, UH, FOLKS THAT ARE LOOKING TO CHANGE OR EXPAND OR TRY NEW THINGS, UH, WITH THEIR BUSINESS.
SO WHEN YOU SAY THAT IS HOUSED AT LAUREL RIDGE, IS THAT GONNA BE IN LIKE THE CONFERENCE CENTER OUTSIDE OR YEAH, THE EVENT ITSELF IS HOUSED.
UH, SO IT'S AT THE CORIN BUILDING.
IT'S INSIDE THAT MAIN CORIN, UM, CONFERENCE CENTER THAT WE'VE GOT RIGHT THERE.
AND THEN THE BREAKOUTS ARE IN DIFFERENT CLASSROOMS THAT WE'VE GOT THROUGHOUT.
SO YOU'VE GOT, UH, IF I CAN GO BACK HERE REAL QUICK, YOU CAN SORT OF SEE IT, I THINK IT'S BACK ACTUALLY THIS WAY A LITTLE BIT.
UH, I'M GONNA GET, GET YOU A LITTLE DIZZY HERE, BUT, UH, YOU CAN SEE THREE DIFFERENT BREAKOUTS DEPENDING ON THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT.
SOCIAL MEDIA, BEST PRACTICES, UH, LAND PRESERVATION TOOLS, RISK MANAGEMENT, DIFFERENT SORT OF BREAKOUTS BASED ON WHAT WE WERE HEARING FROM SOME OF OUR AGRICULTURAL BUSINESSES.
AND SO THEY HAVE, UH, DIFFERENT TRACKS THAT THEY CAN FOLLOW OR, UH, PLAY RISK AND PLAY ANYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO.
UH, AND THEN WE HAVE LUNCH THAT'S BEING PROVIDED BY, UM, UH, JORDAN SPRINGS, AND WE'VE GOT SOME, UH, FOLKS IN THE AREA THAT ARE, UM, PROVIDING SOME SNACKS AND THAT SORT OF THING AS WELL.
SO IT'S A HALF DAY EVENT FROM EIGHT TO ONE.
THAT WAS GONNA BE MY NEXT QUESTION.
AND WE TYPICALLY DO A POWER UP BUSINESS, UH, EVENT.
IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO A SMALL BUSINESS RETREAT THAT WE USED TO DO, WHERE WE INVITE THE SMALL BUSINESSES OR SMALL BUSINESS PROSPECTS TO COME AND LEARN ABOUT DIFFERENT AVENUES AND ASK PEOPLE ABOUT TAXES AND ATTORNEYS AND THAT SORT OF THING AS WELL.
WE HELD OFF LAST YEAR BECAUSE CHRISTINE HAD TRANSITIONED TO A NEW POSITION, BUT SOMETHING I'M WORKING TO BRING BACK TO THE AREA, AND THAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL AS WELL.
ONE THING I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT ON YOUR, UM, ON YOUR FORM, ON THE YES.
BACK PAGE, THE PERCENTAGES, UH, FUNDED BY WARREN COUNTY, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ACTUALLY EXPRESSED AS A DECIMAL, BUT THEN THEY HAVE A PERCENTAGE SIGN.
UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN, IT SAYS 0.07%, BUT I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY 7%.
SO WE ARE FUNDING MORE THAN A, MORE THAN A MINUSCULE AMOUNT.
WE'RE FUNDING, UH, MEANINGFUL AMOUNT.
OUR TOTAL, UH, TOTAL BUDGET FOR THE CENTER IS $230,000.
WE GET 115 FROM THE SBA LOAN, AND WE HAVE TO FIND THE ADDITIONAL 115, UH, LOCALLY FROM OUR LOCAL PARTNERS IN THE AREA.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
[C. 5:40PM - 6:00PM - Budget Request - Blue Ridge Arts Council, Inc]
WE HAVE THE, UH, BLUE RIDGE, UH, ARTS, UH, COUNSEL.YEAH, THE, THE BLUE RIDGE ARTS COUNCIL.
YOU'RE LOCATED OVER IN THAT, THAT BANK, AREN'T YOU? MM-HMM
THAT'S WHERE MY SON DOES HIS VIOLIN.
YEAH, WE LOVE HAVING THOSE PROGRAMS THERE.
UH, I'M KIM CRUMP WITH BLUERIDGE ARTS COUNCIL, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING US.
AND I WAS GONNA START MY REMARKS THEN.
I LOOKED AT YOUR PACKAGE AND I SAID, YOU'VE READ ALL THE THINGS ABOUT THE APPLICATION THIS YEAR, BUT WE'LL ALL DO IT TOGETHER,
I'M GLAD I NOTICED IT WAS LAST YEAR'S INFORMATION BECAUSE
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I WAS LIKE, THIS DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WHAT I DID THIS YEAR.SO ANYWAY, UM, WE ARE A 37-YEAR-OLD ORGANIZATION AND, UH, WHAT I THINK WE'RE MOST NOTED FOR ARE OUR GALLERY EXHIBITS AND OF COURSE OUR SUMMER CONCERT SERIES.
UM, WE DO A LOT OF, UM, OUTREACH WITH DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT, THAT COME AND USE OUR FACILITY FOR, UH, ART EXHIBITS OR SOMETIMES COMMUNITY GATHERINGS.
ALSO MUSIC, UM, MANY, MANY TIMES A YEAR.
UM, WE ARE ASKING FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $9,000, 4,500 FROM WARREN COUNTY AND 4,500 MATCHING FROM THE VIRGINIA COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS CREATIVE COMMUNITIES PROGRAM.
UM, LAST YEAR, UM, WE RECEIVED 8 85, 8500 FROM YOU GUYS.
UM, WE HAD PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED 9,500.
UM, I'M REQUESTING THE ADDITIONAL, WHAT IT, IT'S, I THINK IT'S TWO 50 SO THAT WE COULD GET THE MAXIMUM GRANT AMOUNT BACK AND BRING, YOU KNOW, THAT GRANT MONEY THAT WE ALL PAID IN TAXES BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY TOO, IF YOU'LL TAKE THAT UNDER CONSIDERATION.
UM, WHAT ELSE COULD I HELP YOU WITH?
TO BE ABLE TO, UH, GET THE FULL MATCH.
SO THE FULL MATCH OF VCA IS 4,500.
SO THIS YEAR WE GOT 42 50 FROM WARREN COUNTY AND 42 50 FROM THE GRANT MM-HMM
UM, BUT IF WE ARE ABLE TO INCREASE IT $250, THEN WE CAN GET THE FULL MATCH FROM THE STATE.
SO YOU'RE TAKING, UM, THE WARREN COUNTY CONTRIBUTION ALONG WITH THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL CONTRIBUTION? WE RECEIVE THE CONTRIBUTION FROM WARREN COUNTY, I MEAN RIGHT.
SO FROM THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL.
SO WHEN YOU SEND THOSE TWO, THAT HELPS WITH YOUR CONTRIBUTION THAT YOU GET FROM THE STATE, OR YOU TOLD IT'S A SEPARATE, IT'S A TOTALLY SEPARATE GRANT.
AND WE RECEIVE, UM, THERE, I THINK THERE ARE THREE AGENCIES, UM, THAT RECEIVE THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL GRANT AND THEY DISPERSE IT OUT PER THE $4,500.
SO WHAT'S THE CRITERIA FOR GETTING THE GRANT MATCH? UH, THE CRITERIA FOR THE MATCH IS THE LOCALITY MAKES THE GRANT REQUEST AND THE MONIES COME THROUGH THE LOCALITY.
AND ESSENTIALLY, UM, IT'S TO ASSIST AN ORGANIZATION IN PRESENTING COMMUNITY CULTURAL EVENTS.
IT'S A, IT'S A REALLY LONG STANDING GRANT.
I THINK WE'VE BEEN HAVING IT SINCE LATE 1987.
BUT WE'RE, WE'RE IN A TIGHT BUDGET YEAR.
SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, DEEP DIVE IN A LITTLE MORE, A LITTLE BIT MORE UNDERSTANDING HOW THESE NUMBERS ARE BEING DEVELOPED.
SO IF I HAD ANY MORE QUESTIONS, I'LL, I'LL REFER 'EM TO MS. SCOTT AND SHE CAN, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
WELL, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ALL THAT YOU DO, AND I THANK YOU.
I I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE EVENTS THAT THE, UM, THAT YOU HAVE AT THE GAZEBO, THOSE ARE THROUGH YOUR COUNSEL, CORRECT? OR NOT? THEY'RE THROUGH THE BLUE RIDGE ARTS COUNCIL.
OH, DON'T YOU DO EVENTS? OH, THE, THE SUMMER EVENT.
THE EVERY THURSDAY NIGHT MUSIC.
IN THE SUMMER IN JUNE, JULY AND AUGUST.
UM, YEAH, ABOUT 10 WEEKS OF MUSIC.
BUT THOSE ARE THROUGH THE BLUE RIDGE ARTS COUNCIL.
I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE THAN JUST WHAT YOU DID INSIDE THE BUILDING.
AND THOSE ARE SO POPULAR AND WE'RE SO HAPPY WE CHANGED TO THURSDAY.
WE SEEM TO BE GETTING A LOT OF, UH, GOOD PEOPLE, UH, GOOD, YOU KNOW, PRESENTS AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, MUSICAL GROUPS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT BOOKED ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AND WE'RE NOT COMPETING WITH THAT.
UM, SO, AND YOU KNOW, ALSO THIS, UH, IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE THAT MAKE A LIVING AS MUSICIANS, UM, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE A LITTLE ECONOMIC, UH, INCLUSION, YOU KNOW, AND WE, WE CAN HELP WITH THAT.
I, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, 'CAUSE I KNEW THOSE WENT ON AND I THOUGHT THEY WERE THROUGH YOUR AGENCY, BUT I WASN'T SURE THEY ARE.
I THINK THIS IS OUR 30, MAYBE OUR 38TH YEAR OF DOING THEM CONTINUOUS SEASONS.
AND I HOPE Y'ALL WILL CALM DOWN,
HOW MANY EVENTS TOTAL DO YOU DO PER YEAR? UH, INSIDE AND AT THE GAZEBO OR ANYWHERE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER? UM, I INCLUDED THAT AND, YOU KNOW, WE INCLUDE THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE UTILIZE THE GALLERY, YOU KNOW, FOR RECITALS
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AND OPENINGS AND, UH, SPECIAL EVENTS.SO THE, UH, SO WE'RE WAITING FOR, UH, THE HOUSE OF HOPE.
WE'RE ACTUALLY RUNNING ABOUT, UH, 25 MINUTES EARLY.
AND SO IS THIS FOR THE HOUSE OF HOPE THAT YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
ALYSSA, IS THIS, UH, REPLACING WHAT WE PREVIOUSLY HAD ON OUR STACK IT.
WHAT WAS ONLINE WAS LAST YEAR'S SUBMISSION.
SO, SO IF I READ THIS CORRECTLY, I'M NOT SURE, DOES IT, DOES IT SHOW WHAT THEY RECEIVED LAST YEAR? WAS IT, UH, DID THEY RECEIVE ANYTHING FROM US OR IS IT THEY DID, IT'S, I'M SORRY, THAT WAS REALLY LOUD.
UM, IT'S THE RIGHT IN THE TOP PART OF THE, THE FIRST PAGE TOTAL FY 26 IS $25,000 IS WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.
UM, AND THEY'RE, LEMME SEE IF THEY ADDED THE QUESTION.
LAST YEAR THEY WERE AWARDED $13,000.
SO WE JUST DISCARD THIS WHAT WAS IN OUR STACK.
WELL, WE DID NOT AWARD THEM 30,000 LAST YEAR.
SOMETIMES WHAT THESE AGENCIES THINK, WHAT THEY GOT AND WHAT THEIR ACCOUNTANT SAYS THEY GOT ARE DIFFERENT NUMBERS, SIR, YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA RELY ON YOUR CHART THAT TELLS YOU WHAT YOU ACTUALLY SPENT.
DO I HAVE THAT THEY WERE AWARDED 30 AND FY 22.
UM, I JUST PREPARED A VERY SHORT STATEMENT HERE.
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AND THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING, UH, OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT BUDGET THIS EVENING.UM, JUST STARTING OFF ACCOUNT 3 0 0 2 FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES REPLACED 3 33 0 5 FOR SERVICES FROM OTHER GOVERNMENT.
UM, THIS ACCOUNT WAS USED FOR ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP DUES FOR THE COUNTY PAYS TO THE NORTHERN SHENDO VALLEY REGIONAL COMMISSION FOR CAPITA MEMBERSHIP BASED ON THE COUNTY POPULATION CAPITA SOLID WASTE PLANNING AND CAPITA WATER PLANNING.
THIS WAS DONE IN ORDER TO MANAGE, UH, THE ASSESSMENT FEES TO THE PDC THROUGH ONE DEPARTMENT.
WE HAD, UM, NOT DONE THE SOLID WASTE PLANNING ONE BEFORE MIKE, MIKE DID THAT.
MIKE SAID, SURE, YOU CAN TAKE IT ON AND, AND, UH, PUT IT IN YOUR BUDGET.
SO, UM, WE'LL JUST, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'LL PAY THEM IF IT'S ONE LUMP SUM OR IF WE'LL JUST CONTINUE PAY 'EM IN THE THREE, UH, THE THREE INVOICES THAT THEY WOULD BILL US.
ON THE BOTTOM OF WHERE IT SAYS PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, THAT'S CORRECT.
I'M SORRY, I'M, I'M READING THIS, BUT YEAH.
SO, AND THAT'S, UM, THAT'S ALL THAT WAS BROKEN OUT, UM, IN THE, LET'S SEE HERE, LET ME GET MY, HERE.
UM, SO I DON'T, DID YOU, WE HAVE THAT EXPENDITURE BUDGET REQUEST FOR THE FY,
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UH, 26 AMOUNT, AND THAT WOULD BE UNDER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES? YES, SIR.AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THOSE NU WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE.
AND THAT'S AN ANNUAL, UH, DUES THAT ARE PAID TO THE REGIONAL COMMISSION FOR THE, THEIR SUPPORT.
WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT, UM, UH, ACCOUNT LINE ITEM, UH, OUR AUDIO VIDEO SERVICES FOR, UM, ZACH, UH, HENDERSON, UH, WHO PROVIDES, UH, PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UH, THOSE SERVICES FOR RECORDING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD RECENTLY, I GUESS, STARTED IN THE PAST YEAR OR SO.
AND SO WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD, UH, UH, ACCOUNT, UH, FOR UNDER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO PUT THAT, UM, PLANNING DEPARTMENTS NOT REQUESTING ADDITIONAL $7,000 FUNDING THIS YEAR FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICE, BECAUSE A QUOTE WE RECEIVED FOR FISCAL IMPACT MODELING WAS BETWEEN 65,000 AND A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
AND, UH, THIS WOULD'VE BEEN A SIGNIFICANT ADDITION TO OUR BUDGET IF WE DECIDED TO REQUEST THIS FUNDING.
SO I'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR PRINCIPAL PLANNER, UH, TARA LOGAN FROM THE REGIONAL COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, TARAN.
AND SHE IS GOING TO PROVIDE US WITH SOME DIRECTION BASED ON HER EXPERIENCE WITH THE COUNTY AND RUNNING THE PREVIOUS FISCAL IMPACT MODELS FOR SUBDIVISION AND LAND USE REQUESTS.
UM, WE DO HAVE THAT MODEL SOMEWHERE, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIND THAT AND, AND GET A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, TRAINING ON THAT.
UM, THAT WAS TYPICALLY SOMETHING SHE RAN.
IT IS AN OLDER MODEL, BUT, UH, WE CAN STILL PLUG IN NEW DATA AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL GIVE US, UM, WHAT WE'LL NEED FOR ANY UPCOMING SUBDIVISION OR, UH, LAND USE REQUESTS.
UH, ACCOUNT NUMBER 54 24 FOR MISCELLANEOUS SOFTWARE.
UM, THAT'S AT THE VERY BOTTOM HERE.
UM, REPLACED 33 0 0 9 FOR WEBSITE DEVELOPMENT.
THIS ACCOUNT NOW COMBINES THE COST FOR THE SOFTWARE AND LICENSING FOR ESRI ARC PRO LICENSES FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, THE TIMMONS GROUP WEBSITE MANAGEMENT, SERVICE AND SERVICES SERVICE CREDITS FOR DATA STORAGE IN THE CLOUD, WHICH ARE NECESSARY IN ORDER TO HOST, UH, THE AMOUNT OF DATA AND MAPS AND, AND WHATNOT WE DO THERE.
THE GIS DEPARTMENT WAS AWARDED A $3,000 GRANT FROM THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF E EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GRANT LAST YEAR FOR LICENSING COSTS.
AND WE WILL BE APPLYING FOR THAT GRANT ONCE AGAIN THIS YEAR.
THOSE ARE DEDICATED FOR THE RI LICENSING COST.
UH, I'VE DECREASED OUR REQUEST FOR EIGHT LINE ITEMS IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET WHILE OUR REQUEST FOR INCREASES ARE SHOWN IN 11, UH, LINE ITEMS IN THE BUDGET.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE AN INCREASE, INCREASE OR DECREASES IN STAFFING LINE ITEMS. THE PART THE DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY SHOWS A DECREASED CHANGE IN ACCOUNT 1 0 0 3 FOR FULL-TIME NON-EXEMPT, 35 EMPLOYEES, 35 HOUR EMPLOYEES OF 14,237 FROM FISCAL YEAR 25 OF THE OTHER LINE ITEMS FOR PERSONAL EXPENDITURES.
THREE HAVE INCREASED AND FOUR HAVE DECREASED.
UH, THE REVENUE REQUEST FOR FISCAL YEAR 26TH BUDGET REMAINS THE SAME FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 25 AMENDED BUDGET AT 143,500.
BUT AS OF DECEMBER 31ST, 2024, OUR DEPARTMENT COLLECTED $86,828 AND IS IN ON TRACK TO HAVE A DECENT AMOUNT OF INCREASED REVENUE IN FISCAL YEAR 25 AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
UM, IF YOU DOUBLE THAT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL BE OVER THE 143,500.
UM, THIS IS MAINLY DUE TO INCREASES IN OUR FEE SCHEDULE THAT WAS PASSED IN JULY OF 2023, AND A STEADY STREAM OF BUILDING AND ZONING PERMITS AND LAND USE APPLICATIONS, UH, IN THAT, UH, REVENUE SHEET.
IT, IT APPEARS, I THINK WHAT WE'VE DONE IS MOST OF THE, THE, WE HAVE IT UNDER REZONING PERMITS, BUT MOST OF THAT IS LIKE OUR LAND USE PERMITS IN THE BUILDING PERMITS AND THAT KIND OF THING.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THAT, THAT LARGE AMOUNT OF 130,000, UH, IN THE FISCAL YEAR, SO YEAH.
DON'T YOU, WOULDN'T YOU BE INCLINED TO HAVE 20, THE 26 REVENUE INCREASE TO REFLECT THOSE RAISED FEES? WELL, IF I MAY INTERJECT, WE HAVEN'T SET THE 26 RATE REVENUES YET.
THAT'S JUST A PROJECTION OF HIS ALL DEPARTMENT'S.
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THAT'S JUST THE DEPARTMENT PROJECTION.BUT YOU'RE GONNA GET THE NUMBER FROM HIM TO PUT IN YOUR BOX.
AND BY THE TIME WE FINISH THE BOX, THE NINE MONTH, YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUALS, RIGHT.
THEY'RE SAYING THE FEES ARE INCREASING YEAR, YEAR OVER YEAR.
FEES WERE INCREASED, UM, IN, IN 2023 IN JULY, JULY 1ST, UH, WE HAD NOT HAD FEE INCREASES FOR 20 YEARS.
AND SO WE BROUGHT THAT TO THE BOARD WITH, UM, PRETTY MUCH CROSSED THE BOARD FEE INCREASES.
UM, AND SO I GUESS WE'VE HAD, WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO SEE NOW ONE FULL YEAR, FISCAL YEAR, UH, ACTUALLY PROBABLY SECOND FISCAL YEAR, AND THEN ONE FULL CALENDAR YEAR OF USING THAT.
AND THAT'S LOOKING LIKE ONE 70 K YEP.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FLATLINING YOUR PROJECTION FOR 26.
SO WE COULD, WE COULD PROBABLY BUMP THAT UP.
I JUST, JUST BEING CONSERVATIVE.
THEY DON'T DO THEM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY DON'T ACTUALLY DO THE REVENUE FOR THE, FOR THE BUDGET PROJECTIONS, SIR.
THIS WAS KIND OF GIVEN TO ME BY OUR, OUR BUDGET MANAGER AND JUST KIND OF SAID, LET'S GO WITH THAT JUST TO BE ON A CONSERVATIVE SIDE.
UM, I JUST LIKE TO SAY I UNDERSTAND THAT THE BOARD HAS A COMMITMENT TO FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY TO THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY AND IT ISN'T AN EASY JOB.
BE TOUGH SITTING IN YOUR SEATS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO PUT A PLUG IN THOUGH FOR MY STAFF WHO CONTINUE TO SERVE THE COUNTY AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM AND STANDARD FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE AND THEIR EXPERTISE IN THEIR POSITION.
I HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MERIT INCREASES AND PROMOTIONS FOR MY TEAM WHO COULD NOT DO, WHO I COULD NOT DO MY JOB WITHOUT THEIR COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION AND WHO ARE, IN MY OPINION, VERY VALUABLE ASSETS TO WARREN COUNTY AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.
SO I I, IS THERE A CHANCE, I MEAN, YOU, YOU SAID THAT, UH, THE SIX MONTHS WAS 86,000.
IF YOU DOUBLE THAT, THAT'S 172,000 AND THAT, AND BASED ON THE 143,000, THAT'S ABOUT 30,000 DIFFERENCE THERE.
AND I'M LOOKING AT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE REQUESTING 22,804 WET, CHANGE THAT NUMBER.
IF THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THAT COULD BE MADE UP WITH THAT, THAT PROJECTED DELTA, UH, CERTAINLY WOULD
WELL THAT'S, WELL THAT'S A PRETTY SMART APPROACH THEN.
I WILL JUST POINT OUT THAT, THAT WE, IN OUR IN EMPLOYEE, UH, CODE THERE, UM, WE ARE DECREASED OF 14,237 THIS YEAR.
SO, UM, THAT COULD VERY WELL BE BECAUSE OUR PLANNER, WHEN WE HIRED HER, WAS AT A LESS RATE THAN THE FORMER ZONING O OFFICER.
SO SHE, SHE CAME IN, IT WAS, IT'S, AND IT'S HER FIRST YEAR HERE.
SO, UM, AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S MS. WALL.
AND, AND, UH, SHE'S BEEN A VERY VALUABLE ASSET AS YOU CAN SEE GOING THROUGH THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS.
SO, AND I'D LIKE TO JUST POINT OUT MR. LAN IS HE'S, HE'S, HE'S GOT MULTIPLE TASKS.
I MEAN, HE'S BEEN TRAINING HER IN SOME THINGS IN CODE AND THAT KIND OF CODE ENFORCEMENT.
HE'S OUR FLOODPLAIN CRS COORDINATOR.
HE'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, TAKING CARE OF BUILDING PERMITS AND EVERYTHING THAT YOUR ZONING ADMINISTRATOR TYPICALLY HAS DUTIES.
AND HE'S, UH, HE'S KIND OF WANTED TO LEARN THE SUBDIVISION ADMINISTRATOR TASKS AND DUTIES.
AND I'M HOPING TO, TO BRING HIM ON BOARD WITH THAT.
SO, UM, AGAIN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL, EVERY ONE OF MY STAFF IS A VERY VALUABLE ASSET TO, TO OUR TEAM.
SO I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT THAT OUT.
SO, UM, THESE, UH, DOES YOUR BUDGET INCLUDE THE 3% COLA INCREASE? OKAY.
I'LL JUST POINT OUT ONE OTHER THING.
PRINTING, UH, THE, THE, UM, ADVERTISEMENTS
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FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS HAVE REALLY, THE COSTS HAVE KIND OF REALLY GONE UP IN THE LOCAL, UH, NEWS MEDIA.WE HAD BUDGETED 8,000 LAST YEAR AND WE ARE, WE'RE ASKING FOR LIKE $2,500 MORE JUST BECAUSE THOSE COSTS HAVE GONE UP.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, SO, UM, THAT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE HIGHER, UH, ACCOUNT ITEMS THAT WE HAD TO ADDRESS FOR, FOR THOSE COSTS INCREASES.
WELL, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOUR STAFF DOES.
THEY'RE ALWAYS HELPFUL FOR ME.
DALEY? I'M, I KNOW YOU'RE, UH, YOU'RE BEHIND
MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, MRS. SMELTZER IS HERE FROM THE HOUSE OF HOPE.
IF YOU WANTED TO TALK TO THEM FOR A MOMENT.
OH, I'M STILL WAITING FOR THE TREASURER.
ONCE MR. BEAM GETS STARTED, THEY MAY BE GONE.
YOU ANSWER QUESTIONS, YOU ALL THE ANSWERS, UNFORTUNATELY,
WOULD, WOULD YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF YOU WAITED UNTIL THE TREASURER GOT HERE? I MEAN, I THINK IF YOU HAVE SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, SHE'D PROBABLY BE THE BEST PERSON TO ANSWER THEM, SO.
ALRIGHT, WELL IF YOU DON'T MIND THEN WE'LL GOING AHEAD WITH BUILDING INSPECTIONS.
AND, UH, THAT WAY WE'RE NOT SITTING HERE AND, AND NEEDLESSLY PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT.
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EVENING.UM, ACTUALLY I'M GONNA START WITH THE REVENUE.
AND I KNOW WHAT ED HAD SAID AS FAR AS SETTING THE RATES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
UM, JULY, 2023 FEE INCREASES WENT INTO EFFECT FULLY, FULLY FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
CURRENTLY OUR REVENUE WAS SET AT 512,000 FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR.
AS OF THE END OF JANUARY, WE ARE AT 495,000.
IF WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THAT AMOUNT, WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER 800,000 IN REVENUE.
NOW WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE UH, ADMINISTRATIVE CODE SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT THE LOCAL AUTHORITY HAS THE ABILITY TO CHARGE FEES TO DEFRAY THE COSTS OF INSPECTIONS.
AND THEN IT GOES INTO THE CODE OF VIRGINIA, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE LEVY IMPOSED, WHICH IS A STATE LEVY THAT WE HAVE TO COLLECT.
ANY FEES LEVIED PURSUANT TO THIS SUB SUBSECTION SHALL BE USED ONLY TO SUPPORT THE FUNCTIONS OF THE LOCAL INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT.
SO THERE'S A LINE, AND I DID GO OVER THIS WITH YOU AS THE FEES INCREASE PORTION OF IT, THERE IS A SPECIFIC LINE THAT WE CAN'T ACTUALLY PUT MONEY BACK INTO THE COFFERS IF WE TAKE IT IN.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR THE INSPECTIONS.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, JUST CONSIDER THAT WHILE YOU'RE DOING THE BUDGET PROCESS.
UM, ON A SIDE NOTE, CAN I ASK BEFORE YOU BEFORE YOU, YEAH, YEAH.
IS THAT THE RATE, THE, THE FEES WENT UP, BUT IS, IS THE REVENUE SO HIGH BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LARGE NUMBER OF INCREASED PROJECTS? OR IS THE REVENUE INCREASED SUBSTANTIALLY BECAUSE THE RATES WERE INCREASED? THE FEES HAVE INCREASED BECAUSE OF THE FEES THEMSELVES.
HOWEVER, THERE HAS BEEN AN UPTICK IN SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION.
I STILL SEE THAT CONSTRUCTION LEVEL CONTINUING WITH OUR INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL ASPECTS.
UH, I JUST RECEIVED A SUBMISSION FOR A, UH, FOR RE REVIEW AS FAR AS FOR COMMENTS FROM THE TOWN FOR 90 HOMES OFF OF HAND, HAPPY CREEK.
SO YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT INTO PERSPECTIVE.
WE DON'T CONTROL WHAT WE HAVE COMING IN AND WE CAN'T GO OUT AND BEAT THE BUSHES AND SAY, HEY, COME IN, WE'RE RUNNING A SALE.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S A FUNCTION OF OTHER ENTITIES WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT TO BRING BUSINESSES HERE.
IS IT, IS IT CORRECT TO SAY THAT FEES WERE ROUGHLY DOUBLED ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO? YES, IT WAS CLOSE, CLOSE, CLOSE, CLOSE, YES.
AND THEN BUILDING PERMITS, I THINK UP ABOUT 15% IN 2024.
BUT THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE 98 HAPPY CREEK YET.
I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE HIGHER THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS 104.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S HIGHER THAN THE 15%.
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ON THAT 'CAUSE I WASN'T GONNA DELVE TOO MUCH INTO VERY SPECIFIC THINGS THIS EVENING.BUT JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, IF WE HAD ACTUALLY RECEIVED OUR BUDGET THAT WE ASKED FOR LAST YEAR, AND WITH THE PROJECTION, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN AT 90% AND THAT WAS WHAT THE BOARD HAD APPROVED AS FAR AS HOPEFULLY COVERING 90% OF THE COSTS OF THE REV, THE DEPARTMENT.
SO JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, I I THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING THAT I I GOT IT THAT CLOSE.
I WAS EXTREMELY SURPRISED WHEN I NOTICED THAT.
UM, SO THAT WELL, YEAH, GO AHEAD.
OH, I WAS JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION.
AND THAT INCLUDES THE SALARY INCREASES AS WELL.
THAT WOULD'VE BEEN FOR THIS PAST YEAR, RIGHT? SO WOULD RIGHT.
FOR LAST YEAR IT WOULD HAVE IN INCLUDED THOSE.
ARE THOSE 90 HOMES, IS THAT OFF OF THAT'S YOUR, YOUR CAR WASH, SIR.
AND THAT'S DRIVE FREE DRIVEWAY WITH IT.
AND THAT'S NOT THE ONLY PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON, BUT THAT, UH, JUST AS A TIME SENSITIVE THING, IT JUST CAME IN TODAY AND IT WAS INTERESTING.
I WAS OUT LAST WEEK WITH A, UH, THE FLU, SO I'M STILL GETTING OVER THAT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, OVER TIME I'VE GOT AN INCREASE ON THAT.
WE CURRENTLY ARE PROJECTED FOR GOING OVER THAT LINE ITEM ALREADY THIS YEAR.
MOST OF THAT HAPPENS TO BE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE SHORT STAFFED, NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE PERSONNEL, IT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE PERSONNEL THAT WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE.
SO WE HAVE, WE, I HAVE IN MY PROJECTIONS TO HIRE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL PERSON STAFF.
I'M LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL TWO PEOPLE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
BUT THAT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT THE BUDGET IS.
AND I DID NOT INCLUDE THAT IN THIS BUDGET, BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO PRECURSOR.
THE OVERTIME NUMBER THERE IS TO COVER WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO IN ADDITION TO THE TIME THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE.
SO WHEN YOU SAY IT'S NOT WITH THE, YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE ACTUAL REVENUE THAT COMES IN? NO, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE LINE ITEM THAT WAS SET FOR, UH, I THINK IT WAS, UH, $5,000.
BUT YOU WERE SAYING THAT YOU WERE THINKING OF HIRING TWO MORE PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S BASED WHEN YOU SAID BY THE BUDGET? THAT'S BASED ON THE REVENUE THAT WE BRING IN? NO, NO.
THE BUDGET THAT YOU ALLOW ME TO HAVE.
UH, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, THAT LINE ITEM IS OBVIOUSLY A LARGE INCREASE THAT'S DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE ARE SPECIFIC THINGS FROM WHAT WE'RE BEING, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN HANDED THAT IT ONLY HANDLES.
THESE ARE THE PIECES OF THE INTER GOV SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE.
UM, WE HAVE PROGRAMS THAT USE CRYSTAL REPORTS WITHIN THAT SOFTWARE SYSTEM, IF ANY OF YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT.
CRYSTAL REPORTS HAS GONE AWAY.
SO NOW WE HAVE TO PAY TO HAVE THOSE REPORTS THAT WE HAVE PUT INTO A NEW FORMAT THAT THEY CAN UTILIZE WITHIN THE SYSTEM.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S COVERED BY OUR SUBSCRIPTION.
THAT'S AN EXTRA, UH, THAT'S AN ADD-ON THIS PARTICULAR YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $4,000 THAT WE'VE GOT TO COME UP WITH TO FIND, TO GET THAT COVERED.
SO I'VE PUT THE $10,000 IN THERE AS A NUMBER TO TRY TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT HAPPEN LIKE THIS.
IF I, IF I COULD ASK AHEAD BEFORE YOU, BEFORE YOU GO ON, WHAT IS ON, THERE ARE TWO LINES OF PROFESSIONALS SERVICES.
ONE INVOLVES INSPECTION SERVICES.
AND YOU HAVE A ZERO IN THAT LINE.
THAT'S BECAUSE IT WAS RE-CATEGORIZED THROUGH THE ACCOUNTING.
THE LINE I THAT, THAT LINE ITEM HAS GONE AWAY AND IT WAS PUT IN THE APPROPRIATE LINE ITEM, SPREAD OVER SOME DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS. NO, IT IS ACTUALLY THE $70,000 THAT IS SHOWN, UH, FURTHER DOWN IT WOULD BE, ACTUALLY I TAKE THAT BACK.
NO, IT IS AN IN INSPECTION SERVICES THAT, THAT PIECE IS MDIA MIDDLE DEPARTMENT INSPECTION AGENCY.
WE TAKE THE MONEY IN AND THEN WE PAY THEM BECAUSE THEY SET THE FEES FOR THAT.
ACTUALLY YOU SET THE FEES BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO APPROVE THOSE FEES, WHICH HAS BEEN APPROVED.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A PASS THROUGH THOUGH, RIGHT? IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN PASS THROUGH, BUT IT WAS NEVER AN ISSUE FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT WE TOOK IN CASH AND CHECKS SPECIFICALLY FOR THEM PREVIOUSLY.
SO THAT MADE THE INDIVIDUAL APPLYING FOR THE PERMIT TO DO TWO TRANSACTIONS TO GET A PERMIT.
AND WHAT WE ENDED UP DOING WAS WE WENT AHEAD AND SAID, WE WILL ACCEPT THE FEES INTO OUR SYSTEM AND THEN WE WILL PUT THOSE BACK
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OUT TO YOU.THAT WAY THE CUSTOMER ONLY HAS TO DEAL WITH ONE FEE.
BUT THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT A LINE ITEM ANYMORE.
IS THAT THE ELECTRICAL SERVICE INSPECTION? YES.
AND THERE'S ONE OTHER LINE ITEM LIKE THAT.
UH, ACTUALLY THERE ARE TWO, BUT ONE MAJOR ONE IS THE STATE LEVY, WHICH IS LISTED DOWN AS CODE ACADEMY.
THAT IS THE 2% THAT IS MANDATED BY STATE LAW THAT WE HAVE TO COLLECT ON EVERY SINGLE PERMIT THAT WE ISSUE.
IS IT FOR DOR? IT? NO, IT'S FOR DHCD FOR THE CODE ACADEMY.
THIS IS JUST A, UM, ME MM-HMM
UNDERSTANDING A BEST PRACTICE IN BUDGETING.
SO WITH THESE PASS, PASS THROUGH, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT I UNDERSTAND THE METHODOLOGY.
ALRIGHT, BUT WHY ARE WE SHOWING BRINGING IN AND THEN WE HAVE A FINANCIAL CODE OF IT GOING OUT.
WOULDN'T THAT BE SOMEHOW, UH, THE PAPER TRAIL OF SHOWING AN EXPENSE OR AN ADJUSTMENT? I MEAN, DO WE HAVE THAT? WE, WE DO.
WE'RE NOT ASKING TO SPEND MONEY.
WE'RE ASKING FOR THE LINE TO EXIST FOR THE MONEY TO FLOW THROUGH.
SO THAT'S WHY THE BUDGET IS, OKAY.
SO THERE, THERE'S A AUDIT TRAIL.
WHEN WE GET THIS MONEY AND WE SEND IT BACK OUT.
BUT, AND LAST AT THE END OF THE YEAR, IT'S OKAY.
ZERO BECAUSE THERE IS NO ACTUAL EXPENDITURE EX EXACTLY.
AND THEN WITH THE PASS THROUGH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T CHARGE ANY ADMINISTRATIVE FEE FOR DOING ANY OF THE WORK FOR IT.
A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU HAVE A PASS THROUGH, IF THIS IS FOR THE GOVERNMENT, WELL IT'S CHANGING NOWADAYS.
STATE LEVY, WE CANNOT DO THAT.
HOWEVER, WITH MDIA, WE HAVE A SERVICE FEE THAT WE ATTACH AS WELL.
MOTOR VEHICLE REPAIR, UM, I'VE GOT FOUR VEHICLES NOW.
I HAD ONE TOTALED, UH, I WILL BE COMING TO ASK FOR ONE TO BE REPLACED THAT PARTICULAR ONE SO THAT I HAVE THAT AVAILABLE.
UM, OUR VEHICLES CURRENTLY, UH, THREE OF THEM ARE AT THE 200,000 MARK.
ONE'S AT 199, ONE'S HUNDRED 218 AND ONE'S AT 241,000.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR A VEHICLE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, UH, FOR REPLACING ANY OF THOSE THAT IS IN THE WORKS AS FAR AS COMING UP.
BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE VEHICLE THAT HAS THE 218,000 POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE A $4,500 REPAIR BILL THAT HAS BEEN ALREADY ESTIMATED THROUGH THE BUS GARAGE BECAUSE THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT'S ON.
NOW, IT'S NOT NECESSARY RIGHT THIS SECOND, BUT IF SOMETHING BREAKS AND IT CAUSES PROBLEMS, THAT'S $4,500 RIGHT THERE.
HOWEVER, WITH 218,000, THE BUS GARAGE HAS ALSO TOLD ME THAT IF THAT HAPPENS, YOU'RE BETTER OFF REPLACING THE ENGINE, WHICH IS NOW 7,500.
SO THAT IS THE REASON FOR THE INCREASE AS FAR AS FOR THE AMOUNT FOR MOTOR VEHICLE REPAIRS.
SO BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, SO FOR THESE NEW VEHICLES THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING THAT, WOULD THAT SHOW UP IN OUR ASSET REPLACEMENT BUDGET? YES, IT WOULD.
I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS A REQUEST IN THERE RIGHT NOW.
I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ONE FOR THE TOTALED VEHICLE.
AND THE REASON BEING IS THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE $8,500 THAT WAS GIVEN TO US BY THE INSURANCE COMPANY THAT WOULD GO BACK TOWARDS THAT.
BUT THAT MAY ACTUALLY BE BEING PUSHED OFF UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
WELL AT THE, AT THE BOTTOM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
YOU DO HAVE CAPITAL REPLACEMENTS OF MOTOR VEHICLE 35,000 AT THE BOTTOM.
THAT WAS ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE REMOVED BY MEGAN, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD GOTTEN THAT OKAY.
BUT I HAD PUT IN THERE BECAUSE I KNEW I HAD TO REPLACE A VEHICLE AND I WASN'T SURE EXACTLY HOW IT WAS GONNA BE HANDLED, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT WAS TOTALED.
SO WE NEED TO TAKE THAT JUST SCRATCH THROUGH IT.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT TONGUE IN CHEEK, BUT ALL MY TRUCKS HAVE OVER 200,000 AND THEY ALL HAVE THE CHECK ENGINE LINE ON AND I'VE NEVER HAD TO REPLACE AN ENGINE
AND I WILL, I WILL REPLACE THEM WHEN THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED.
I'M NOT, I'M, I'M JUST GIVING YOU THE REASON BEHIND MY REPAIR COSTS BECAUSE IF I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, I CAN'T GET IT REPAIRED AND THEN I'M DOWN ANOTHER VEHICLE.
I WAS GONNA SAY THAT ELECTRICAL TAPE WORKS WONDERS COVERING UP THAT CHECK ENGINE LIGHT.
UM, THE OTHER LINE ITEM FILING SERVICES FEES, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THAT.
THAT IS ANOTHER PASS THROUGH, NOT PASS THROUGH.
THAT'S REVENUE THAT'S TAKEN IN, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY EXPENDED BACK OUT DURING THE WINTERTIME AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE FOR EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LAW LAWN ESTABLISHED.
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WE HAVE TO HAVE A MECHANISM TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF.SO WE PUT A, UH, ITEM ON THEIR ACTUAL DEED AT THE COURTHOUSE.
SO WE HAVE TO GO DOWN AND FILE THAT.
SO THAT COSTS, WE TAKE THAT MONEY IN AND THEN WE PUT IT BACK OUT.
SO IT'S THERE, BUT IT'S, IT'S MONEY THAT WE'RE JUST HOLDING UNTIL IT NEEDS TO BE EXPENDED.
SO, SO THAT'S KIND OF LIKE AN ESCROW THEN WHERE YOU'RE TAKING IT IN BECAUSE YOU DID.
'CAUSE IT'S ON YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, THAT THAT GETS DONE.
SO THEN YOU TAKE IT IN, YOU HOLD IT, AND THEN ONCE THEY GET IT, UH, GET THAT UH, UH, TAKEN CARE OF THEN, THEN YOU RELEASE THE MONEY.
WELL WE ACTUALLY RELEASE IT OFF THE DEED RIGHT DOWN AT THE COURTHOUSE.
THERE'S A MULTIPLE WAYS OF DOING THIS, BUT THAT'S THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY IMPACTS US BY HAVING A MONEY MONETARY ISSUE.
THIS WAY, THIS WAY YOU'VE GOT SOME TYPE OF LEVERAGE ON THE, ON THE INDIVIDUAL TO HAVE IT CAN TAKE TAKEN CARE OF.
UH, COMPUTER AND PRINTER SUPPLIES, THAT LINE ITEM COVERS OUR INK FOR OUR FRONT COUNTER, UH, PRINTER.
THAT PRINTER AND MOST PRINTERS WE'RE RUNNING ABOUT $1,300 EVERY TIME WE HAVE TO REPLACE THOSE CARTRIDGES.
AND IT'S ABOUT THREE TIMES A YEAR.
SO THAT LINE ITEM I'VE PUT IN FOR AN INCREASE BECAUSE IT WASN'T SUFFICIENT TO COVER THAT AMOUNT.
UH, CONVENTIONS AND EDUCATION, THAT LINE ITEM BECAUSE OF TWO THINGS.
ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO HIRE SOMEBODY, BUT I KNOW THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN RIGHT NOW, BUT I DO HAVE AN EMPLOYEE THAT I WAS INFORMED OF THAT IS PROBABLY RETIRING IN JULY.
IF I LOSE MY SENIOR INSPECTOR, I'M PROBABLY GONNA NEED TO REPLACE 'EM WITH TWO INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE OF THE ABILITY AS FAR AS WHAT'S BEING DONE.
SO THAT IN INDIVIDUAL, THOSE INDIVIDUALS WOULD NEED TO HAVE TRAINING AND THAT'S GONNA INCREASE THAT LINE ITEM.
LEASE RENT EQUIPMENT, UH, WE HAVE A COMMUNITY PRINTER IN OUR OFFICE THAT NEEDS TO BE, WE HAVE A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH IT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY SET UP, BUT WE GET CHARGED FOR IT HALF THE AMOUNT THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING AND BUILDING INSPECTIONS.
THAT MONEY WE ARE, WE'RE GONNA BE SHORT THIS YEAR BY $300.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIND THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THAT.
AND THE LAST ITEM THAT I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS IS THE COMPUTER EQUIPMENT.
I'VE PUT THIS IN THERE FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT I BELIEVE THAT IT'S GONNA BE TAKEN BACK OUT INTO THE IT BUDGET, BUT YOU DO NEED TO BE AWARE THAT WE DO HAVE ITEMS THAT ARE GONNA NEED TO BE REPLACED.
AND THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT LINE ITEM.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
HOW MANY COMPUTERS WOULD BE REPLACED FOR THAT? FOR THAT, I THINK I HAD FOUR COMPUTERS, EIGHT MONITORS, FIVE IPADS.
UM, AND THEN I HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION.
UM, SO YOU MENTIONED YOU HAVE OVERTIME, IT, UH, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A LOT, BUT YOU HAVE SOME OVERTIME.
YOU HAVE, UM, SOME PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR NEXT YEAR.
UH, BUT EVEN THAT, UH, COMPARED TO YOUR FULL-TIME IS IS NOT A LOT, YOUR FULL-TIME IS RELATIVELY UNCHANGED.
UM, YOU'VE GOT 90 NEW HOUSES COMING ONLINE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE SITE WORK WILL TAKE BEFORE THOSE BUILDINGS ACTUALLY START, BUT YOU'RE INSPECTING THE SITE WORK TOO, I BELIEVE, RIGHT? YES.
SO ARE YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH ALL THAT? UM, ESPECIALLY WITH YOUR SENIOR INSPECTOR RETIRING AND, UM, AND JUST HOW LONG IS THE AVERAGE, UH, LIKE HOLD TIME FOR A BUILDING PERMIT TO WORK ITS WAY THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THE INSPECTOR GET OUT THERE AND THE PERMIT TO BE ISSUED FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING? RIGHT NOW IT'S APPROXIMATELY TWO WEEKS.
WE, WE ARE DOING VERY WELL ON OUR REVIEW TIMES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL THAT DELAY THINGS.
UH, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ONES IS IF THERE'S TAXES DUE.
THEY, THEY, THEY, WE HAVE MANY, UH, HEATED AND ELEVATED CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.
IF YOU OWE TAXES, WE CAN'T START ANYTHING UNTIL YOU TAKE CARE OF THE TAXES.
UM, SO THAT DELAYS THINGS AND THAT USUALLY IS ONE OF THE LARGEST PIECES THAT PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT BECAUSE IT'S TAKING SO LONG.
I WENT IN, WELL, THE VERY FIRST THING IS IT TAKES YOU TWO OR THREE WEEKS TO GET YOUR TAXES TAKEN CARE OF,
SO WE'RE ALREADY ON THE CLOCK AS FAR AS THEY'RE CONCERNED.
WHO HAS TO HAVE THEIR TAXES PAID? THE CONTRACTOR, THE OWNER, AND ANYBODY ELSE THAT WORKS ON THAT SITE.
DOES THAT STATE LAW? NO, THAT'S COUNTY LAW.
THAT WAS TO GATHER BACK IN THE TAXES THAT ARE OVERDUE, THAT ARE DELINQUENT.
I, I LIKE THAT THERE'S PROS AND CONS
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TO IT.I, I I WILL SAY MOST OF THE CONS ARE GONNA BE HEARD FROM A PERMIT TECHNICIANS BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE, UH, IRATE INDIVIDUAL.
HOW MANY INSPECTORS DO YOU HAVE CURRENTLY? TWO.
AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE BOTH FULL-TIME.
SO ONE'S RETIRING THAT'S, AND, AND 90 HOUSES IS, IS NOT THAT.
I KNOW THE APARTMENT BUILDING THAT IS BEING PROPOSED BEHIND ROYAL KING, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER BIG PROJECT.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A MULTITUDE OF OTHERS.
SO THIS 800,000 PROJECTED MM-HMM
UH, IN REVENUE, WOULD THAT BE HIRING MORE, UH, INSPECTORS BE SOMETHING THAT THAT COULD BE USED FOR SINCE IT HAS TO STAY WITHIN? ABSOLUTELY.
AND OF COURSE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE SUSTAINABLE DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HIT THOSE YEARS OF LAWS, YOU KNOW, NOT TO, I, I, I CAN TELL YOU ONE, COULD YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID? 'CAUSE I MISSED, I MISSED WHAT YOU ASKED.
YOU KNOW, IT LOOKING AT, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN SOME CRITICISM.
I, I LISTENED TO THE TOWN, UH, MEETING WHERE THERE WAS, UM, A BUILDING THAT, AN ALLEY AND ALL THAT VACATING STUFF THAT THEY WENT THROUGH.
UM, AND A LOT OF SHADE GOT THROWN BACK AT ONE.
THE INSPECTION PART OF IT DON'T UNDERSTAND AT ALL.
'CAUSE CAME IN ON THE MIDDLE OF THAT, UH, PROCESS THEY WENT THROUGH.
BUT MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS, DO WE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS YOUR STAFFING WITH GOING EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON? UM, AND I KNOW THAT HAS BEEN SOMETHING YOU'VE BROUGHT UP SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, THAT YOUR INSPECTORS ARE A BIG PROBLEM.
CONTRACTORS COMPLAIN ABOUT TIME, LENGTH OF INSPECTIONS AND SO FORTH.
AND WHEN YOU'VE GOT TWO PEOPLE, THAT'S, THAT'S DIFFICULT.
UM, AND I KNOW YOU'VE MADE SOME HEADWAY THERE, BUT BEING ABLE TO SUSTAIN IT WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, USING THE FEES, IF I UNDERSTOOD IT RIGHT, THAT WHAT THOSE FEE INCREASES CAN'T BE PUT IN THE GENERAL FUND.
THEY HAVE TO STAY WITHIN YOUR, THEY HAVE TO OFFSET OUR, OUR COSTS.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY FIRST THOUGHT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE REVENUE TO HIRE, BUT IS IT SUSTAINABLE OVER SLOW CONSTRUCTION PERIODS? AND, UM, SO THAT'S, IT'S A GOOD THING AND IT'S A UNCERTAIN THING AT THE SAME TIME.
I, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE PUSH RIGHT NOW IS TO HAVE THE STORM ORDER PORTION OF THE PROCESS PUT BACK ONTO THE JURISDICTIONS.
THE STATE IS PUSHING IT THAT WAY.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, BUT THAT WOULD OFFSET AS FAR AS ANY ADDITIONAL PEOPLE, BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE FOR THAT.
SO MY INSPECTORS ARE QUALIFIED FOR BOTH EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL, AS WELL AS BUILDING INSPECTIONS.
SO WE SPREAD THAT ACROSS BOTH OF THEM.
SO IF WE HAD TO PICK UP THE STORMWATER, WHICH I ANTICIPATE THREE YEARS MAXIMUM, THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL PEOPLE AT THAT TIME.
NOW OUR FEES WILL GO UP AGAIN BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TO ADD ON STORMWATER PERMITTING FEES, BUT WE'LL STILL NEED THE PERSONNEL.
AND I WOULD RATHER START AHEAD OF THE GAME THAN BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL.
SO WOULD THESE INSPECTORS HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL TRAINING OR WOULD THAT HAVE TO BE SOMEONE SPECIFICALLY TRAINED IN THAT? THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE ADDITIONAL TRAINING.
IS, IS, UH, IS THERE ANY MERIT TO CONSIDERING BRINGING THAT INTO THE COUNTY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE? LIKE, BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD THING TO DO? LIKE, LIKE SPEEDING THINGS UP, MAKING THINGS? NO, NO, NO.
THEY, THEY HAVE, UH, SPED THEIR PROCESS UP QUITE DRASTICALLY AT DEQ OVER WHAT PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE TO HAVE COMMENTS BACK WITHIN 60 DAYS.
THEY HAVE TO NOTIFY THE INDIVIDUAL WITHIN, I THINK IT'S, UH, 15 OR 20 DAYS IF IT, IF THE APPLICATION IS COMPLETE.
SO THEY CAN'T WAIT THE 60 DAYS AND SAY, OH, BY THE WAY, YOU MISSED THIS.
SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE THAT EXPECTATION RIGHT THEN AND THERE.
15 TO 20 IS, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE APPLICATION IS COMPLETE.
INSTEAD OF, LIKE I SAID, WAITING UNTIL THE 60 DAYS.
OH, BY THE WAY, YOU, YOU'RE MISSING THIS PIECE.
SO IN PRACTICE, IS THAT WORKING BECAUSE I, BECAUSE I'M UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS PART OF IT IS A IS IT HAS BEEN YES.
IS THE THE BOTTLENECK IT, IT, IT HAS BEEN.
HOWEVER, IT'S NOT THE BOTTLENECK OF DEQ AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
IT'S THE ACTUAL APPLICANT, THE DESIGNER THAT CAN'T GET THE PLAN.
I'M DEALING WITH THE HYATT, UH, STUDIOS OUT HERE, AND I'LL SEND FIVE COMMENTS BACK AND I MAY GET AN ANSWER TO ONE.
NOW I GOTTA RE-REVIEW IT AND SEND IT BACK TO YOU.
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SO, SO, SO BRING IT TO THE COUNTY AS SOMETHING YOU WANT US FORCED ALL AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT THE INTENTION OF DEQ IS NOT TO PENALIZE THE CONTRACTOR, IT'S TO PENALIZE THE JURISDICTION.
AND WHEN I SAY THAT THOSE ARE THE FEES OR, UH, FINES THAT THEY CAN COME BACK OH, YOU'RE NOT DOING YOUR JOB.
UM, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, UH, THE OVERTIME NUMBER IS ACTUALLY A TINY NUMBER.
BECAUSE I TRY TO KEEP IT DOWN.
I DON'T WANT MY STAFF HERE ANY LONGER THAN THEY HAVE TO BE.
BUT IT DOESN'T LEAD ONE TO CONCLUDE THAT ANOTHER EMPLOYEE IS NEEDED.
I MEAN, YEAH, AN EMPLOYEE MIGHT COST ALL BENEFITS INCLUDED.
JUST WHATEVER, SAY 80,000, I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER.
THOSE THAT, UM, CAN YOU KIND OF MAKE THAT MAKE SENSE? ABSOLUTELY.
THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE NOT DOING THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY REQUIRED, BUT THEY ARE FUNCTIONS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
AND THOSE ARE GOING BY THE WAYSIDE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO DO THOSE FOLLOWING, FOLLOWING THROUGH ON VIOLATIONS.
WE HAVE VIOLATIONS THAT COULD BE PUT ASIDE FOR SIX MONTHS BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO IT.
WE SHOULD BE DOING IT, BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO IT.
CAN YOU GET AN EXAMPLE OF THAT ON OUR, LIKE, ON A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT? UM, BUILDING WITHOUT A PERMIT IS THE BIGGEST ONE.
UM, WE, WE FIND THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERSON THAT IS NOT DEDICATED SPECIFICALLY, BUT HAS THE TIME AVAILABLE TO CONTINUE TO GO BACK AND GET THAT PERSON TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
IF THEY STILL DON'T, THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERSON THAT'S GONNA BE SITTING IN THE COURTROOM TO MAKE THEM DO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
SO THOSE FUNCTIONS, IT'S IN VIOLATION.
THE BUILDING IS BEING PUT UP WITHOUT A PERMIT.
IT'S NOT BEING CONSTRUCTED THE WAY THAT A STATE LAW REQUIRES IT.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO FIND OR NOT FIND, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO FI TIME TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE ACTUAL DUTIES THAT WE HAVE TO DO, GETTING OUT TO DO THE INSPECTIONS FOR THE CONTRACTOR THAT DID PULL A PERMIT.
I'VE HAD, I'VE HAD MULTIPLE, UH, TIMES WHEN RESIDENTS HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME ABOUT, UM, LACK OF SILT FENCING FOR PROJECTS, UM, AND MUD COMING ACROSS ROADS AND THINGS.
AND THEY DON'T, THAT FITS IN THAT CATEGORY.
IT DOES FIT IN THAT CATEGORY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A MECHANISM TO REALLY CHARGE AN INDIVIDUAL TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF.
WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE PHYSICAL ABILITY TO GO OUT TO ARREST SOMEBODY OR DETAIN SOMEBODY.
SO IT, IT IS A PROCESS AND WE HAVE TO CONTINUALLY FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT TO GET IT TAKEN CARE OF.
I, I HAVE A CONSTITUENT WHO'S, WHO'S PRETTY CERTAIN THAT HOUSES ARE BEING BUILT WITHOUT PERMITS.
IF WE DON'T SEE IT, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
WE RELY ON SOMEBODY CALLING IN TO SAY, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS? WELL, COULD THESE, COULD THESE FINES THAT, UH, THAT YOU ALL, OR NOT THE FINES, BUT THE, UH, THE, THE FEES THAT YOU ALL TAKE IN, COULD THIS HELP OFFSET? 'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS WHERE IF YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY TO BE ABLE TO, TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS, YOU CAN FOLLOW UP.
AND, UH, AND MAYBE SOME OF THE FINES THAT YOU'D BE COLLECTING WOULD HELP OFFSET THAT ALSO.
YES, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE WORK WITHOUT A PERMIT, UM, A VIOLATION NOTICES THAT HAVE FEES ATTACHED TO THOSE.
BUT QUITE FRANKLY, IN TODAY'S SOCIETY, FOR A NORMAL CONTRACTOR, THOSE FEES ARE INSIGNIFICANT.
MAYBE, MAYBE LOOKING AT ADJUSTING THOSE, THOSE WERE IN THE HIGHER RATE, BUT IT WASN'T SECTIONED OUT TO SAY, OKAY, WELL IF WE DO THIS AT 90%, CAN WE INCREASE THESE FEES OVER HERE? SO, AND I'D BE MORE THAN WILLING TO INCREASE THOSE.
AND I BET YOU IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING FOR A, FOR A CONTRACTOR WHO FOLLOWS ALL THE RULES TO SEE SOMEBODY ELSE WHO'S NOT FOLLOWING ALL THE RULES, GETTING AWAY WITH IT.
I HEAR, I HEAR THAT ON A DAILY BASIS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, WELL, JUST, JUST ONE.
I'M, UM, I DON'T WANT TO BE NITPICKING OR ANYTHING, BUT A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THINGS LIKE FUEL, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT DON'T, DON'T SEEM THERE.
THERE'S SOME JUST KIND OF STRAIGHT LINING OVER IN TERMS OF SOME OF THESE, SOME OF THESE ITEMS. UM, THE MOTOR VEHICLE FUEL.
I MEAN THE, THE 24 ACTUAL WAS 71 AND 10 WAS BUDGETED, AND SO FAR WE'RE ONLY AT 3000, BUT STILL 10 BUDGETED, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING.
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WELL, WE'RE ONLY SIX MONTHS AND THIS ONLY ACTUALLY SHOWS THAT IT THROUGH DECEMBER.ANYTHING ELSE? IF, IF, IF THAT TWO WEEK AVERAGE STARTS GOING UP, COME TO US AND, AND SEE IF, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HELP YOU HIRE SOMEONE.
BECAUSE THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, WHEN AN OCCUPANCY, I'LL BE TO YOU DESK TOMORROW, WHEN THAT PERMIT IS ISSUED, WE CAN START COLLECTING PROP OR, UH, REAL ESTATE TAGS.
AND SO, UM, THOSE 90 HOMES, WE WANT TO GET THOSE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND NOT HAVE THAT BLOCK THE MOM AND POP PERMIT PERMITS AS WELL.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT JUST HIRING A PERSON ISN'T REALLY YOU.
YOU'VE GOTTA PROACTIVELY PLAN FOR THESE THINGS YEAH.
I, I TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT EVERY JURISDICTION THAT I KNOW OF IS LOOKING FOR QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS AND THEY'RE NOT FINDING QUALIFIED.
SO THEY'RE GETTING INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY HAVE TO TRAIN.
SEE IF YOU COULD SNIPE SOMEBODY FROM ONE OF THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
CITY OF WAYNESBORO TRIED TO DO THAT TO ALL THE JURISDICTIONS IN THE VALLEY JUST THE OTHER DAY.
AND ED, JUST NOTE THEY ASKED QUESTIONS.
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HAVE HOUSE OF HOPE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, LADIES.I WAS, I DO HAVE LATE IN MY NAME, BUT I WAS ON TIME TODAY.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT OR, UM, AMANDA CAN ANSWER SOME OF THE FINANCIAL PART OF THAT, AND I CAN ANSWER KIND OF THE PEOPLE PART OF THAT.
WELL, I SEE THAT YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR AN INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.
SO, UM, ALSO, UM, READING THROUGH THE, UM, THE FORM HERE, UM, NUMBER TWO WHERE IT SAYS PROVIDE, PLEASE PROVIDE THE TOTAL CLIENT'S INDIVIDUALS SERVED BETWEEN JULY 1ST, 2024 AND THROUGH JUNE, 2025, AND SHOW A BREAKDOWN OF CLIENT'S INDIVIDUAL'S ALITY.
IT SAYS MICHELLE SME CAN PROVIDE THE DETAILS.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, I DID NOT KNOW IT SAID THAT.
UM, I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU I DON'T HAVE IT.
BUT, UM, SO, AND BECAUSE WE'RE NOT IN, I MEAN THIS, WE HAVEN'T HAD THROUGH 20, YOU KNOW, JUNE OF 25.
UM, SO I JUST DID THE WHOLE LAST YEAR, THE CALENDAR OF THE YEAR OF LAST YEAR, UH, BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HAD AND THE BREAKDOWN 'CAUSE WE DON'T, AND, AND THAT, AND THAT WAS PROVIDED TO, UM, NO, I HAVEN'T PROVIDED, I CAN TELL YOU, I DON'T HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN.
YOU HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN IN FRONT OF YOU.
I HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I DON'T.
WELL, SO HOW MANY, SO WE, WE SERVED 19 MEN LAST YEAR, THE CALENDAR YEAR.
AND, UM, THE AVERAGE STAY WAS 11 MONTHS.
ONE AND A HALF MONTHS WAS LIKE THE AVERAGE STAY OF, OF THE MEN.
AND, UM, 11 OF THOSE 19 WERE WARREN COUNTY FRONT ROYAL.
SO WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME FROM LIKE WINCHESTER.
WE HAVE, WE HAD ONE THAT WAS FROM CALL PEPPER.
UM, WE CURRENTLY TOOK IN ONE JUST LIKE THE OTHER DAY.
THAT'S FROM WEST VIRGINIA THOUGH.
HE WAS CURRENTLY, HE'S CURRENTLY LIVING IN WEST VIRGINIA AND IT'S COME BACK.
SO THEY, A LOT OF TIMES THEY HAVE SOME KIND OF, UM, TIES HERE, YOU KNOW, WITH, EVEN IF THEY'RE FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE, THERE'S, THERE'S, THEY USUALLY JUST DON'T DROP IN.
THEY'RE JUST, THEY HAVE SOME KIND OF TIES HERE.
BUT, UM, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT I NEED TO BREAK IT DOWN.
LIKE HOW MANY FROM WINCHESTER AND SHENANDOAH AND ALL THAT.
UM, NORMALLY THEY'RE FROM WINCHESTER.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'D SOMETIMES WE HAVE LITTLE FLUKES AND WE HAD ONE GUY THAT WAS FROM MONTANA, YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY, SO HE'S GONE BACK TO MONTANA.
BUT, UM, 13 OF 'EM HAVE BEEN HOUSED.
YOU KNOW, THEY ALL HAD JOBS WHILE THEY WERE HERE LAST YEAR.
SOME HAVE MOVED OUTTA STATE AND, UH,
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OUT OF THE AREA, A LOT OF 'EM HAVE MOVED OUT OF THE AREA.SO WITH, OF THE 19, IS THAT YOUR MAXIMUM CAPACITY OR COULD YOU TAKE MORE? NO, THESE ARE JUST, NO, OUR MAXIMUM CAPACITY IS 12.
UM, BUT THESE ARE JUST MINUTE THAT WE'RE HERE DURING THAT CALENDAR YEAR.
SO HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU HIT YOUR MAX CAPACITY? SO WE WE'RE USUALLY, WE'RE NOT AT MAX CAPACITY RIGHT NOW, BUT WE USUALLY ARE.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR WE'RE AT MAXIMUM CAPACITY.
HOW DO PEOPLE FIND YOU OR GET REFERRED TO YOU THROUGH DSS OR, UM, SOMETIMES THROUGH DSS, SOMETIMES THROUGH OTHER, UH, SHELTERS.
UM, WARREN COALITION REFERS QUITE A FEW TO US.
UM, THEY LOOK 'EM UP, YOU KNOW, JUST INTERNET FIND US ON THE INTERNET.
SO, AND WE, BUT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, DRUG AND ALCOHOL FREE, SO YOU HAVE TO TAKE DRUG TESTS, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERY NIGHT THERE'S A, UM, BREATHALYZER THAT'S GIVEN.
SO, UM, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET A JOB.
YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SAVE YOUR MONEY.
SO THAT KIND OF, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WE GET A LOT OF PHONE CALLS, BUT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO TAKE.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE DON'T MEET THOSE.
AND DO YOU FOLLOW UP AFTER THEY GRADUATE? DO YOU FOLLOW UP AFTER SOME PERIOD TO, TO SEE THAT THEY'RE NO, THEY'RE STILL NOT ON THE, THEY'RE NOT ON THE STREET.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE STILL LIVING INDEPENDENTLY.
THE ONES THAT MOVE OUT OF THE AREA, WE'RE NOT GREAT.
WE'RE, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, WE'RE NOT GREAT AT THAT.
BUT WE DO THE ONES THAT STICK AROUND AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE RENTING AN APARTMENT RIGHT NOW AND THEY'RE WORKING AND THEY'RE DOING REALLY WELL, THEN WE, THEY PRETTY MUCH STAY IN TOUCH WITH US.
SO WE, I MEAN, I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD, UM, SYSTEM IN PLACE AND THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME THROUGH THERE FOR THE MOST PART, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT OBVIOUSLY, BUT, UM, THEY, THEY GET A JOB, THEY SAVE THEIR MONEY AND THE END RESULT IS THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO MOVE OUT ON THEIR OWN.
BUT THIS, IN THIS HOUSING MARKET, IT'S BEEN TAKING A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN IT USED TO.
WE HAD, UM, LAST YEAR WE HAD A SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL AT THE SHELTER, WHICH WAS REALLY HARD.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS MOM WAS INCARCERATED.
AND I'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL CALLS FROM THE SCHOOL SYSTEM FOR, THEY NEED 18 YEAR OLDS THAT NEED, YOU KNOW, HOUSING.
AND I THINK THAT'S A BIG GAP THAT WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH IN THE COMMUNITY.
LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF SERVICES FOR KIDS AND, YOU KNOW, KIDS IN SCHOOL.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND HE WAS TOP 10% IN HIS CLASS AT SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL, AND HE WAS IN THE MEN'S SHELTER RIGHT.
FOR HIS HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION.
SO IT'S PRETTY, UM, I THINK IT WILL GROW.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A COUPLE MOTELS, LIKE THE ONE THAT GOT APPROVED FOR APARTMENTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW, IT'S ALSO LISTED FOR SALE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DO THE APARTMENTS, UM, THAT WERE APPROVED 'CAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT.
YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE BY TWA THAI? YES.
SO IT'S CURRENTLY ON THE MARKET AND, BUT PEOPLE ARE LIVING THERE AND THEY JUST LIKE THE ONES, YOU KNOW, BY THE JOE STEAKHOUSE.
SO IF SOMEONE BUYS THOSE MOTELS MM-HMM
WHERE ARE THOSE PEOPLE GONNA LIVE? YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH THE SHELTER.
I MEAN, IT'S FULL MOST OF THE TIME RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO REMODEL.
UM, WE ARE, WE HAVE A GRANT TO TRY TO PUT A NEW ROOF AND NEW ELECTRICAL AND STUFF, BUT WE ALSO ARE ONLY TENANTS AND WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH THE LANDLORD.
YOU KNOW, HE HAS TO SIGN OFF ON THE BUILDING PERMITS AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET THAT DONE YET.
UM, AND IF WE HAD TO MOVE, LIKE WHERE WOULD WE GO? YOU KNOW? AND DEFINITELY NO ONE WANTS THE SHELTER AS THEIR NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW? UM, AND RIGHT NOW IT'S IN KIND OF A COMMERCIAL AREA THAT IS PRETTY LOW KEY.
BUT I MEAN, WE'RE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A STRUGGLE AND THE, OUR FUNDRAISING, YOU KNOW, IS DEFINITELY LOWER.
BUT I THINK IT'S HARD, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A SMALL COMMUNITY AND IN COMMUNITIES LIKE THIS, 20% OF US ARE DOING 80% OF THE WORK.
UM, AND EVERYONE LOVES LITTLE PUPPIES.
SORRY, YOU MADE SIGNING THAT HERE.
YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK THAT HOMELESS MEN, IT'S A LOT HARDER.
AND WE ALSO CAN'T SHOWCASE THEM.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SUCCESS STORIES AND PEOPLE HAVE HELPED THEM GET CARS AND GET APARTMENTS, BUT WE'RE NOT POSTING PICTURES OF THEM.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE PUTTING 'EM ON A FLOAT AND PUTTING THEM IN THE PARADE OR SOMETHING.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ONE LARGE FUNDRAISER A YEAR, AND THAT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, OUR BIGGEST PUSH.
SO WE HAVE GOTTEN THEM INVOLVED SOME IN THE COMMUNITY.
LIKE I'VE HAD THEM HELP, YOU KNOW, WITH SMALL JOBS, BUT THEY ALL HAVE JOBS, YOU KNOW.
AND THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN GREAT ABOUT EMPLOYING THEM, YOU KNOW, AND A LOT OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND STUFF AND TRYING TO HELP THEM, BUT IT'S JUST KIND OF AN UNSPOKEN, LIKE IT'S A HARDER SELL, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
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FUNDRAISING DOLLARS FOR.BUT IF YOU, I AM CONCERNED WITH THE MOTELS, YOU KNOW, AND IF THAT HAPPENS, LIKE, SO GOING BACK TO THE FORM.
SO IT SAYS, UH, QUESTION NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE SHARE ANY WAYS THAT YOUR AGENCY IS CURRENTLY PARTNERING WITH WARREN COUNTY DEPARTMENTS.
AND IT SAYS, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES.
CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? YEAH.
TO HELP IDENTIFY THE PEOPLE IN NEED, YOU KNOW, SO THIS DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES, THEY KIND OF KNOW PEOPLE THAT ARE IN NEED OF SHELTER, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO WE HELP THEM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY NEED, UH, IF THEY, IF THEY CAN GET MEDICAID OR SNAP INITIALLY, WE USUALLY DO HAVE THEM APPLY FOR THAT.
AND ONCE THEY GET, IF THEY'RE UNEMPLOYED, WHEN THEY COME IN, THEN THEY GET EMPLOYED AND THEN THEY, THEIR FINANCES GO UP AND THEN THEY'RE, THEY DON'T QUALIFY ANYMORE.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, WE HAVE A JOB DEVELOPER.
SO IF SOMEONE NEEDS A JOB, WE SEND THEM TO THE JOB DEVELOPER.
UM, I TRY TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM IF THEY NEED ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND, UM, WE ALSO WORK CLOSELY WITH THE WARREN COALITION AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE, THAT ARE SOBER AND THAT, YOU KNOW, MIGHT NEED SOMEBODY TO HELP THEM.
AND THEY'VE GOT, UH, PEER SUPPORT SPECIALISTS AT WARREN COALITION THAT HAVE BEEN FABULOUS WITH US AND ABLE TO, I'VE CALLED THEM AND SAID, HEY, CAN YOU COME OVER AND TALK TO SOMEONE? AND THEY'RE REALLY GREAT ABOUT IT.
SO, UM, SO YEAH, WE PARTNER, YOU KNOW, WE PART WITH PICK, PICK OF THE LITTER.
WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT GO OVER, WE HAVE THE GUYS GO OVER IT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ABLE TO GET SOME CLOTHING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST DIFFERENT, AND I THINK EVEN ONES THAT COULD GET DISABILITY, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S A BIG SUPPORT SYSTEM TO THEM THAT THEY'RE MISSING A LOT OF THOSE BENEFITS AND SERVICES.
SO THAT'S WHERE SOCIAL SERVICES KIND OF HELPS TO GET THEM ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE, QUESTION NUMBER SIX, IT SAYS, UH, PLEASE DESCRIBE HOW, HOW, EXCUSE ME, ARE USING WARREN COUNTY FUNDS FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR IN THE CON.
YOUR RESPONSE WAS, WE DID NOT RECEIVE OUR BUDGET CHECK LAST YEAR,
SO COULD YOU YOU EXPLAIN THAT? YEAH.
I HAD SENT THE LETTER AND I RE RESENT IT, YOU KNOW, TO MEGAN EARLIER.
SO WE JUST HAVEN'T GOT THOSE FUNDS YET.
BUT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, A HOUSE MANAGER, UM, WHO IS A GRADUATE OF OUR PROGRAM.
UM, AND WE'RE TRYING TO TRANSITION BACK TO HAVING AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR BEFORE FUNDRAISING MEETINGS AND FOR COMMUNITY OUTREACH, BECAUSE WE REALLY NEED THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT WE'VE BEEN AS A VOLUNTEER BOARD, RIGHT? WE'VE BEEN KIND OF DOING THAT JOB WITH OUR OTHER JOBS.
UM, BUT DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, REPAIRS AND JUST THE NEEDS, YOU KNOW, OF THE HOUSE.
WE'RE ON A VERY SHOESTRING BUDGET, SO WE DEFINITELY NEED THAT MONEY FEBRUARY.
[G. 7:00PM - 7:20PM - Budget Request - Parks and Recreation]
PARKS AND REC.HELLO, HOW ARE YOU GUYS TODAY? GOOD, GOOD.
ALL FIRST, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT PERSONNEL.
UM, I'M REQUEST, I'M REQUESTING FIVE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS, THREE PART-TIME AND TWO FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WITH A TOTAL INCREASE OF $133,368.
UM, WE HAVE DECIDED THAT GOALS OF INCREASING REVENUE, TARGETED YOUTH ENGAGEMENT AND EXPANDING PROGRAMS PROVIDED BY THE DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.
THE REQUESTED POSITIONS WOULD SUPPORT THESE GOALS AND ENHANCE THE SERVICES OF THE DEPARTMENT.
THE FOLLOWING REQUESTS WERE PRESENTED IN FUNDING PACKAGES OR IN ARE IN OUTSIDE OF THE EXPENDITURE BUDGET REQUESTS.
UM, I'M FIRST REQUESTING AND ATHLETIC FIELD MAINTENANCE WORKER.
UH, THIS PERSON WOULD WORK WEEKDAYS, EVENINGS, AND WEEKENDS.
AND THEY WOULD ESPECIALLY BE UTILIZED DURING OUR PEAK SEASONS.
UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT PUBLIC'S WORKS, WORKLOAD IS CONSISTENTLY INCREASING, WHICH HAS LEFT A GAP IN OUR FIELD.
PREPARING FOR WHINING, MARKING FIELDS, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE TWO AT BEING THREE AT ALL OF OUR OTHER FACILITIES, AND TWO AT THE SOCCER PLEX.
SO THEY ARE EXTREMELY SHORT STAFFED.
UM, ALSO I'M REQUESTING A PARKS AND FACILITY MAINTENANCE WORKER.
THAT PERSON WOULD WORK EVENINGS AND WEEKENDS, AND THEY WOULD BE HELPING WITH MAINTAINING PICKUP OF TRASH OPENING RESTROOMS THAT ARE RESERVED AT LOCATIONS.
UM, AND THEN THEY ALSO WOULD HELP OVERSEE OUR SHELTER TRANSITIONS.
UM, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE BRING IN REVENUE FOR SHELTERS AND FIELD RENTALS, SO THAT MIGHT HELP PARTIALLY FUND THIS REQUEST.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE ASKING FOR THREE REC ATTENDANTS.
UM, DURING THE WINTER MONTHS, OUR WINTER PROGRAMS ARE GROWING.
OUR YOUTH BASKETBALL'S GROWING AND HAVING THREE MORE WORKERS WOULD HELP TO STAFF AND COVER THOSE PROGRAMS. UH,
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NEXT I'D LIKE TO TOUCH BASE ON OUR REVENUE.UM, THE WARREN COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT PROPOSED THE FOLLOWING CHANGES FOR THE GENERAL USE OF 2025 FEE SCHEDULE.
UM, WE INCREASED OUR FEES AT OUR PARKS AND REC FACILITIES.
UM, THIS WOULD HELP WITH THE DIRECT AND INDIRECT COST OF THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION.
UH, WE INCREASED OUR POOL PUNCH PASSES.
WE ELIMINATED THE OPTION FOR PIZZA PASSES AT THE POOL RENTALS.
UM, WE'RE OPENING PRIVATE RENTALS SUNDAY AND SATURDAY EVENINGS.
AND THEN WE ADDED A 10% NON RESIDENTIAL FEE TO ASSIST, UH, TO BE ASSESSED FOR PATRONS WHO DO NOT RESIDE IN WARREN COUNTY.
UM, WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT OUR YOUTH LEAGUES ARE AN EXTENSION OF OUR PROGRAMS. THEY HELP PROVIDE ACCESSIBILITY, QUALITY, AND MENTORSHIP TO ATHLETES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, WE HAVE INCREASED THE 5% PER LEASE TERM, AND THEN AFTER THREE YEARS OF WE WAIVING THE FEE FOR THE SUNFISH, THEY'RE GONNA START PAYING THIS YEAR.
UM, WE HAVE ALSO, I WANTED TO TOUCH BASE ON SOME OF OUR DECREASES IN OUR REVENUE THAT YOU'LL NOTICE.
UM, OUR FACILITY RENTAL INCOME WENT DOWN ABOUT 40,000.
UM, THAT WAS DUE TO US HAVING NOW ACCURATE PROJECTIONS OF RENTALS.
UM, THOSE WERE NOT ADJUSTED AFTER WE LOST THE SENIOR CENTER AND THE YOUTH CENTER.
AND WE, UM, ACTUALLY TOOK OUT AN ADDITIONAL 20,000 IN DEPOSITS THAT WE TAKE IN THAT WE RETURN MOST OF THE TIME, AND THAT'S NOW IN REVENUE LINE, SO THAT THEY'LL BE RETURNED CORRECTLY AND LOGGED.
UM, OUR PROGRAM FEES ALSO WENT DOWN ABOUT 10%, AND THAT WAS DUE TO A REDUCTION IN THE AMOUNT OF BUS TRIPS WE OFFERED.
UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE INCREASES IN PASS THROUGH REVENUE.
UH, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS HAVE INCREASED, UM, AND WE ARE GOING TO BE USING PASS THROUGHS TO HELP OFFSET THE COST OF THAT.
UM, WE HAVE DESIGNATED SPECIFIC LINES AND DOLLARS FOR THE PASS THROUGHS.
UM, SOME OF THESE ARE CONCESSION SALE SALES.
UM, THIS INCREASE IS A HUNDRED PERCENT BASED ON THE EXPENDITURES IN THE LINES LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE HAVE REQUESTED WHAT WE SPENT INCREASED THE COST OF THE CONCESSIONS AND MAKE ADDITIONAL ADJUSTMENTS AS NEEDED TO KEEP THE ITEMS SELF-SUFFICIENT.
UM, POOL INCOME INCREASED ABOUT 3%.
IT'S NOT A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE PASS THROUGH ITEMS WILL SUPPORT THE COST OF CHEMICALS, REPAIRS, THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS, THE PURCHASE, THE PURCHASE OF THE OUTDOOR MOVIE PROJECTION PACKAGE THAT WILL BE UTILIZED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND THE PURCHASE OF A ROCK CLIMBING WALL.
UM, THE, THE POTENTIAL FOR ADDITIONAL POOL REVENUE YEAR AFTER YEAR WITH THIS PASS THROUGH FEATURE.
UM, ADDITIONAL PASS PASS THROUGHS TO NOTE ARE PROGRAM FEES DESIGNATED FOR USE BASKETBALL LEAGUE TO COVER THE COST OF JERSEYS AND OFFICIALS GYMNASTICS TO COVER THE LEOTARDS SWIM LESSONS, TO COVER THE LIFE VEST AND TRAINING TOOLS AND BUS TRIPS TO COVER THE TICKETS AND TRANSPORTATION.
UM, I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON THE EXPENDITURES NOW.
I'M ONLY GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ONES THAT ARE 2000 OR GREATER.
UM, A 3% INCREASE FOR MOST OF OURS ARE VERY LOW.
SO THIS, I WOULD BE REVIEWING EVERY LINE IF I STUCK TO THAT.
UM, SO I LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE ONES EXCEEDING 2000.
AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I DO NOT TOUCH BASE ON, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR DEPARTMENT.
WE ARE NOT A MONDAY TO FRIDAY OPERATION.
UM, WE OPERATE TWO FACILITIES, YEAR ROUND STAFF, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 12 HOURS FOR MOST DAYS.
WE HAVE ONE SEASONAL FACILITY THAT'S STAFF SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 12 HOURS MOST DAYS.
OUR PERSONNEL REQUESTS COVER FIVE FULL-TIME AND 19 PART-TIME POSITIONS WHO OPERATE THE FACILITIES AND RUN THE PROGRAMMING.
OUR OPERATIONAL REQUESTS CONSIST OF EXPENSES REQUIRED TO OPERATE THE DEPARTMENT, EQUIPMENT LEASES, SPECIFIC STAFF CERTIFICATIONS, FUEL UTILITY SOFTWARE AND SERVICE CONTRACTS.
UM, WE'VE BROKEN DOWN THE REMAINING FUNDING REQUESTS INTO CONDITIONAL AND DISCRETIONARY.
WE CATEGORIZE CONDITIONAL REQUESTS AS EXPENSES NEEDED TO OPERATE, BUT ARE REDUCED WHEN SERVICES ARE REDUCED.
SO FOR INSTANCE, IF WE DON'T HAVE YOUTH BASKETBALL, WE WON'T NEED TO ORDER JERSEYS.
IF WE DON'T OFFER BUS TRIPS, WE WON'T NEED TO ORDER TICKETS.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT A REDUCTION IN CONDITIONAL EXPENSES EQUALS A REDUCTION IN DEPARTMENT REVENUE AS WELL.
LAST IS THE DISCRETIONARY REQUEST.
THESE ITEMS THAT WE WOULD LIKE IN PLACE TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY, QUANTITY, AND SAFETY OF THE DEPARTMENT, THIS WOULD BE OUR REQUEST FOR SECURITY CAMERAS TO ATTEND INDUSTRY CONFERENCES AND THE PURCHASE OF REPAIR FOR NON-ESSENTIAL ITEMS. SO OUR EXEMPT 35 EMPLOYEE DECREASE 54%.
UM, THAT WAS DUE TO REDUCTION IN STAFF.
WE WENT FROM TWO TO ONE WITH THE RETIREMENT OF THE FORMER DIRECTOR DAN LENS.
OUR NON-EXEMPT EMPLOYEES INCREASED, UM, 131%.
THE NON-EXEMPT STAFF INCREASED FROM THREE TO FOUR, AND IT WAS ALSO RESTRUCTURED.
THE OFFICE ASSOCIATE POSITION WAS ELIMINATED AND
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TWO POSITIONS WERE APPROVED AND INTRODUCED IN THE 2024.THAT WAS THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR AND RECREATION COORDINATOR.
AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, THE RECREATION AQUATICS MANAGER WAS RE-CLASSIFIED TO AN AQUATICS AND INSTRUCTIONAL COORDINATOR.
UM, OUR CONTACT, OUR CONTRACTED EMPLOYEES INCREASED BY 76%.
UM, THAT WAS DUE TO CYCL CYCLING.
OUR PREVIOUS PART-TIME SEASONAL EMPLOYEES INTO 10 99 CONTRACTED EMPLOYEES.
UM, OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES INCREASED, UM, ABOUT 20%.
THE GOLF COURSE MA MANAGEMENT FEES, UM, WERE WRITTEN INTO THE MANAGEMENT CONTRACT AT $1,750 PER MONTH OF ABOUT 21,000 ANNUALLY.
AND LAST FISCAL YEAR, THAT WAS CUT TO 16,000.
OUR EQUIPMENT AND REPAIRS INCREASED BY 7,500.
UM, THIS ITEM WAS NOT FUNDED LAST YEAR.
HOWEVER, SEVERAL REPAIRS ARE REQUIRED ANNUALLY.
THESE ARE CONTRACTED SERVICES SUCH AS REPAIRS REQUIRED AT THE POOL THAT FALL OUTSIDE THE REGULAR MAINTENANCE CONTRACT TERMS. UM, MAINTENANCE SERVICE CONTRACT INCREASED BY 5,000.
UM, THIS REQUEST INCLUDES THE POOL MAINTENANCE SERVICE CONTRACT, AND THE XEROX SERVICE AGREEMENT.
UM, WE HAVE THE MOBILE RADIO INCREASED BY $5,300.
UH, THIS IS AN EXPENSE OUR DEPARTMENT ITEMS AND WILL BE REMOVED.
UM, SO WE CAN MOVE PAST THAT ONE.
OUR FOOD SUPPLIES, UM, INCREASED BY $10,000.
THIS REQUEST IS BASED ON THE 2025 EXPENSES, AND IT IS REQUESTED TO BE ALMOST FULLY FUNDED BY BYPASS, UM, FUNDING SUPPLIED BY THE CONCESSION SALES.
UM, SAME THING WITH OUR BEVERAGE SUPPLIES.
THAT INCREASED BY 5,000, BUT AGAIN, IT WAS BASED ON THE 2025 EXPENSES.
AND IT'S REQUESTED TO BE ALMOST FULLY FUNDED BY BY PASS THROUGH FUNDING SUPPLIED BY THE CONCESSION SALES.
OUR RECREATIONAL SUPPLIES INCREASED BY 25,000.
UM, THIS EXPENDITURE LINE IS LARGE, LARGELY RECOUPED AND PASS THROUGH OR RESALE REVENUE.
UM, EXPENSES RELATED TO PROGRAM FUNCTIONS, NOT THE EQUIPMENT.
UM, BUS TRIPS IS 8,000 IN THE PASS THROUGH THE MOVIE NIGHT WOULD BE 5,000 IN THE PASS THROUGH.
UM, THE RC TRACK AT ROCKLAND THAT WE'RE HOPING TO INSTALL WOULD BE 2000 IN THE PASS THROUGH, UM, PROGRAM.
RECREATIONAL SUPPLIES FOR NEW PROGRAMS AND REPLACEMENT SUPPLIES WOULD BE ABOUT 5,000.
SOCCER NET REPLACEMENTS WOULD BE ABOUT 6,000, AND IT CAN BE UTILIZED AS A PASS THROUGH FROM ATHLETIC FIELD RENTALS.
AND THEN 10 ADDITIONAL PICNIC TABLES WOULD BE ABOUT 12,000.
OUR BUILDING MAINTENANCE SUPPLIES ALSO INCREASED TO 44,000 THIS YEAR.
THE FOLLOWING EXPENSES ARE INCLUDED IN THIS.
THE POOL CHEMICALS AT ABOUT 5,000 EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT AND REPAIRS ARE ABOUT 5,000.
THOSE COULD BE POOL VACUUMS, DRAIN GRATES, PAINT, ET CETERA.
OUR POOL WATER KITS ARE 2000 SECURITY CAMERAS AT THE GYM, 30,000 AND SECURITY CAMERAS AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, 12,000.
UM, OUR UNIFORMS INCREASED TO 14,400, BUT MUCH OF THIS LINE IS ALSO FUNDED BY PASS THROUGH INCOME FROM THE PROGRAM FEES REVENUE LINE, UH, WE HAVE RESALE ITEMS FOR BASKETBALL JERSEYS AT 8,000, RESALE ITEMS FOR GYMNASTIC JERSEYS AT 3,600 STAFF.
UM, LIFE GUARDIAN FORMS AT 3000 AND STAFF PROGRAM UNIFORMS AT A THOUSAND.
AND THEN OUR SCHOOL'S OUT SUMMER CAMP T-SHIRTS AT A THOUSAND, UH, LODGING INCREASED TO 5,000.
AND THEN OUR EDUCATION AND INCREASE TO $4,520.
THAT IS OUR C-P-S-I-C-P-R-P, OUR C'S, SORRY.
UM, OUR AQUATIC CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS AND OUR PA CONFERENCE AND VRPS CONFERENCE.
AND THEN NEXT I'D LIKE TO TOUCH BASE ON THE ASSET REQUESTS.
UM, MOST OF OUR REPLACEMENTS AND REPAIRS FALL UNDER OPERATIONAL EXPENDITURES OR CAPITAL.
SO FOR THIS REASON, OUR ASSET REQUESTS ARE VERY MINIMAL.
UM, WE HAVE GERTRUDE MILLER BACKSTOP REPLACEMENTS.
UM, IT WOULD BE ABOUT 25,000 EACH FOR A TOTAL OF 75,000.
ALL THREE ARE PAST THEIR LIFESPAN AND REPAIR.
AND THEN ALSO A NEW POOL COVER WOULD BE ABOUT 30,000.
UM, THIS IS MAINLY FOR A SAFETY ISSUE.
THERE ARE HUGE HOLES IN THE POOL COVER.
SOMEONE COULD FALL IN IF THEY DECIDED TO JUMP THE FENCE AND BE RECKLESS.
UM, AND THEN IT WOULD ALSO PREVENT DEBRIS FROM GETTING INTO THE POOL AND STAINING IF WE HAD A NEW COVER.
SO THESE ASSET REQUESTS AND CAPITAL, NOW YOU'RE GOING TO CAPITAL PRO PRIORITY.
UM, I, I LOST, YOU LOST ME WHEN YOU WENT TO ASSET REQUEST.
I BELIEVE JANE'S GONNA TOUCH BASE ON THE CAPITAL IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
AND THEN, SO WE ASKED, UH, TIFFANY TO MENTION WHAT THESE ITEMS ARE FOR YOU FOR REFERENCE, AND THEN YOU
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WILL GET THE CIP AND THE ASSETS, UH, FROM JANE AND ALYSSA IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.BUT THIS IS JUST FOR REFERENCE THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
AND THEN OUR CAPITAL PRIORITIES, WE HAVE TWO MAIN PRIORITIES.
OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, THE ROCKLAND PARK COMPLEX IS A HUGE PRIORITY FOR US TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD.
AND THEN THE POOL REPLASTERING, UM, JANE WILL SPEAK MORE ON THAT IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE, THE STAINING AT THE BOTTOM.
AND WE HAVE TONS OF CHIPPED OFF PLASTER AT THE BOTTOM.
AND EVENTUALLY, IF IT'S NOT FIXED, THE POOL WILL CRACK WITH THE FREEZING AND REFREEZING THAT OCCURS EVERY WINTER.
AND THEN ONCE THAT HAPPENS, WE'LL HAVE A BIGGER ISSUE AT HAND AS OPPOSED TO DRAINING AND REPLASTERING.
UM, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO REPLASTER A POOL EVERY 10 TO 15 YEARS.
THE POOL WAS BUILT IN 1991, I BELIEVE, AND THEN IT WAS REPLASTERED IN 2010.
SO IT'S DUE FOR A REPLASTERING.
SO THE ROCKLAND PARK DEVELOPMENT, I'M CONFUSED.
I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE UNDER A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT.
UH, TOURISM I THINK WAS THE LAST WE HEARD.
BUT IS IT NOW, IS THIS A DIFFERENT PROJECT OR IS THIS THE 400, THE $4 MILLION PROJECT WHEN YOU STAND UP THERE, PAVILIONS AT ROCKLAND PARK, THERE ARE SEVERAL COMMUNITY FAMILY FACILITIES, AND THOSE ARE ALL PARKS AND RECREATION.
AND IF THE NEW FACILITIES, THE NEW, UH, COMPLEX SPORTS FIELDS ARE BUILT, THEY'RE UNDER THE GENERAL PERVIEW OF RECREATION.
THEY'LL BE SCHEDULED AND SO FORTH.
LIKE ANY OF, LIKE ALL OF OUR OTHER PARKS ARE SCHEDULED FOR RECREATION.
IF THE BOARD DECIDES TO DEVELOP AND PROMOTE, UM, TRAVEL LEAGUES, WHICH HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT BY THE BOARD, UM, THEN THAT PORTION WOULD BE STILL COORDINATED AND ADDRESSED BY RECREATION.
BUT TOURISM WOULD BE CONTRIBUTING TO HELP ATTRACT THE, SO THE IDEA WAS THAT IF YOU CREATE THIS FACILITY THAT IS USED BY OUTSIDE EN ENTITIES, IF PEOPLE COME FROM MARYLAND OR, UH, NORTHERN VIRGINIA, ET CETERA, PENNSYLVANIA TO THIS FACILITY, IN THE SAME MANNER THAT OUR TRAVEL TEAMS GO TO PHILADELPHIA, TO HAGERSTOWN, TO NORTHERN VIRGINIA, ET CETERA, THAT THOSE WOULD BE BOOSTING TOURISM.
SO IT BECOMES A TWOFOLD GOAL IN THERE THAT YOU CAN PROMOTE TOURISM WITH THIS FACILITY WHILE OTHER PARTS OF IT ARE TOTALLY LOCAL RECREATION.
WELL, I UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMIC, UH, BENEFITS THAT THIS PROJECTED PROJECT BRINGS.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT WHO'S, WHERE'S THE MONEY COMING FROM AND WHO IS RESPONSIBLE IN, IN MANAGING.
AND SO LET ME FINISH, LET ME FINISH.
SO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THIS, IT WAS, OH, IT'S GONNA BE TERRORISM THAT WAS GONNA DO IT, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TRY AND HOPEFULLY GET MONEY FROM THE STATE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND I ASKED, WAS PARK AND REX PART OF THIS? AND I, AND I WAS, I UNDERSTOOD SAYING NO.
SO NOW I'M HERE AND I SEE THIS ROCKLAND PARK DEVELOPMENT UNDER PARKS AND REC, AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM BEING, BECAUSE I THINK IT BELONGS TO PARK AND REC.
SO WHO'S GONNA BE MANAGING THE DEVELOPMENT AND TRYING TO, UM, GET THE FUNDING TO MAKE THIS ALL WORK TO MANAGE THE OVERALL PROJECT AND TO GET THE FUNDING TO WORK IS MS. MEADOWS, SHE'S BACK THERE RAISING BOTH HANDS FOR YOU.
SO IT'S, AND SHE'S BEEN TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
SO THEN WHAT, AND I, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, I APOLOGIZE.
SO WHEN YOU PRESENT THIS, AND IT'S GONNA BE IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, OBVIOUSLY YES.
SO FOR PARK AND RECS WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE IN ANOTHER COUPLE, COUPLE OF WEEKS, HOW MUCH MONEY ARE YOU PUTTING IN THAT? I THINK WHERE TOURISM GOT BROUGHT IN THIS, AND DR.
DALEY, YOU CAN, UM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG,
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THE TOURISM DOLLARS CAN BE USED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE IT AFFECTS TOURISM.SO THE MONEY THAT GETS BROUGHT IN FROM LODGING AND SO FORTH, THAT HAS TO GO TO THAT CATEGORY.
THIS QUALIFIES FOR, SO IT WAS A FUNDING AREA THAT WE COULD TAP, TAP INTO TO MATCH THE FEDERAL.
AM I CORRECT WITH THAT? SO THE QUESTION WAS ASKED BEFORE, HOW DO WE GENERATE $2 MILLION TO MATCH THE $2 MILLION OF FEDERAL FUNDS? IT WAS SUGGESTED YES, SIR, THAT THERE IS APPROXIMATELY $500,000 IN OUR TOURISM FUNDS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
AND THAT THAT MONEY CAN BE USED AS A MATCH AS PART OF THIS.
THAT WOULD BE 25% OF IT, AND THE OTHER 75% HAS TO BE RAISED.
UH, YOU'RE AWARE OF SOME FUNDING PROPOSALS, UH, THAT ARE MAY COME ABOUT TO SOMETHING THEY MAY NOT, WE DON'T KNOW YET.
UH, AND THEN THAT MAY BE THAT WE HAVE TO PHASE THE PROJECT THAT IT TAKES SEVERAL YEARS TO BE ABLE TO GENERATE.
AND WE HAVE THREE YEARS TO RAISE ALL OF THE MATCH THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE.
AND, UM, IF WE START THE PROJECT WITH THE FIRST 500,000, THAT MEANS WE HAVE 1 MILLION AND WE CUT OFF A PIECE OF THE PROJECT AFTER THE CONSULTANT, WHICH YOU APPROVED UPDATES THE PLANS WITH THE ESTIMATES TO SAY, OKAY, WE CAN DO THIS PIECE OF THE 2,000,004 OF THE 4 MILLION RATHER FOR 1 MILLION.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE PIECE WE WOULD DO FIRST.
AND IF WE HAD ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO PICK UP ANY OF THE ADDITIONAL 1.5 MILLION, THEN WE WOULD PUT THAT TO MATCH.
IN ADDITION, THE PROJECT, THE FIELDS AND EVERYTHING WOULD ALWAYS BE MAINTAINED BY OUR PUBLIC WORKS PARKS MAINTENANCE CREW AND THE SCHEDULING, ET CETERA, WOULD ALL BE DONE THROUGH RECREATION AT, UH, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A SEPARATE ENTITY THAT'S GONNA RUN THIS PARK DIFFERENT THAN THAT PARK.
THEY'RE ALL, ALL THE PARKS GO THROUGH RECREATION AS FAR AS SCHEDULING AND USE.
AND THAT MY UNDERSTANDING, WE, HOW WE USING IT, IT WAS JUST THE FUND RESOURCE THAT COULD BE TAPPED INTO CORRECT.
AND BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER HALF MILLION DOLLAR SOURCE TO GET THE PROJECT STARTED.
SO THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY, I'M NOT SURE THIS IS THE RIGHT VENUE TO, TO BRING THIS UP, BUT IT SEEMS THAT THAT MAYBE, UM, I'VE, I'VE, I LEMME START OVER.
I'VE HEARD OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS PASSING OR FLOATING REFERENDUMS TO FINANCE PROJECTS SUCH AS THIS.
AND, AND THAT SEEMS TO ME SOMETHING WE SHOULD AT LEAST EXPLORE OR THINK SERIOUSLY ABOUT BECAUSE IT LE IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S AN EXPENSIVE ENDEAVOR.
UM, THERE IS GONNA BE AN EFFORT TO DO AN ECONOMIC ANALYSIS TO SEE IF IT'S FEASIBLE, YOU KNOW, THAT IT ACTUALLY HAS A PAYBACK, UH, AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT FROM A TOURISM POINT OF VIEW.
UM, BUT STILL IT'S A HEAVY LIFT.
AND IF IT'S SPREAD OVER TOO MUCH TIME, UM, THAT ESSENTIALLY JUST COULD EFFECTIVELY DELAY THE, THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT PART OF IT, UH, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO ATTRACT THE, THE VISITORS TO THE AREA.
SO, BUT WE'VE GOTTA HAVE THESE REVISED COST ESTIMATES FIRST.
BUT, BUT, UM, I JUST, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MAYBE THIS ISN'T THE RIGHT FORM, BUT I, I JUST WANT TO PUT SORT OF PLANT THE SEED THAT, UM, WE MIGHT APPROACH DISCUSSING HAVING A REFERENDUM TO SUPPORT THIS TYPE OF THING.
YOUTH ACTIVITIES, YOUTH SPORTS, THEY'RE VER ALL PARENTS WANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEIR KIDS TO BE ABLE INVOLVED IN THESE THINGS.
AND, UM, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST SOMETHING I'M A BIG SUPPORTER OF.
I DO WANNA KNOW THE ECONOMICS OF, BUT, BUT, UM, AGAIN, WE HAVE, IF WE CAN FRAME THIS SO THAT, THAT PEOPLE MAKE AN EXPLICIT CHOICE TO DO IT, I THINK THERE'S BIG BENEFITS IN THAT.
I THINK BY TRYING TO SQUEEZE IT INTO OUR VERY TIGHT FINANCES BUDGET MAKES IT A MUCH HEAVIER LIFT.
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IT IS.SO I, I THINK THAT, AND I'M RECOGNIZING THAT.
SO I THINK WE CAN, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SORRY TO TAKE UP NO, YOU'RE FINE.
BUT, BUT, UM, JUST PLANNING TO SEE, I THINK MAYBE REF A REFERENDUM IN THIS, FOR THIS AREA, SOMETHING WE COULD DISCUSS AT SOME POINT.
UM, IF I CAN JUST PIVOT OFF THIS TO SOMETHING THAT'S A PIPE DREAM OF MINE, BUT SOMEWHAT SIMILAR.
UH, GOING BACK TO THE POOL, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POOL, UH, NEEDS A NEW COVER FOR $30,000 AND, UH, IN THE WINTER IT FREEZES AND THAT'S BAD FOR THE PLASTER.
UM, SO I READ IN THE NV DAILY, SOME MONTHS AGO THAT, UH, STRASBURG IS, UH, LOOKING AT PUTTING A TENNIS BUBBLE OVER THEIR POOL TO ENABLE WINTER USE OUT OVER THEIR OUTDOOR POOL.
THOSE THINGS ARE EXPENSIVE AND THAT COMES WITH CHEMICALS AND STAFFING NEEDS AND SO FORTH.
BUT IT DID OCCUR TO ME THAT THERE COULD BE A LOT OF USE WITH LIKE HIGH SCHOOL SWIM TEAMS, HIGH SCHOOLS AND WINTER SPORTS, UM, WITH ADULT, UH, YOU KNOW, EXERCISE, SWIM AND LESSONS AND ALL THINGS BECOMING YEAR ROUND.
POTENTIALLY SOME REVENUE THERE AS WELL.
UM, I DID ASK TIFFANY TO CALL UP STRASBERG AND, AND FIND OUT HOW MUCH THAT'S GONNA COST THEM AND, AND WHAT, WHAT WERE THE, YOU KNOW, THE DECISION FACTORS.
SO RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST A PIPE DREAM OF MINE 'CAUSE I'M A SWIMMING PERSON, BUT, UH, UH, IF THERE'S A REFERENDUM FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR BASEBALL FIELDS, MAYBE WE CAN THROW A POOL COVER IN THERE TOO, YOU KNOW, FOR REVERSE AND REC.
RIGHT? I, YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T, DON'T ENVISION IF THERE'S A REFERENDUM THAT LEADS TO A BOND ISSUE, I DON'T ENVISION IT BEING JUST FOR THE, FOR THE PARK.
IT'S FOR A RECREATIONAL COUNTY, FOR A PARKS AND REC COUNTY AND ALL THE HEALTH BENEFITS AND ALL THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS THAT, THAT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD, AND THE BIGGER THE DREAMS GET, THE MORE IMPORTANT IS TO DO, OR THE REFERENDUM, THE BIGGER, BUT, BUT THEN IT ALSO GETS TO ASKING THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE FAM THE, THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE THE KIDS THAT WANNA DO THE ACTIVITIES MM-HMM
SO THAT'S A VALUABLE PART OF A, OF A COMMUNITY THAT PEOPLE WANNA LIVE IN, IS HAVING THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
I THINK IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS TYPE OF INVESTMENT IN THE TIMES THAT WE ARE RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, AS I HAD MENTIONED BEFORE, BEFORE WE STARTED THESE BUDGET HEARINGS WE'RE ALREADY $2.2 MILLION IN THE WHOLE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THESE ASK THAT I'M KEEPING TALLY HERE,
AND, UM, WE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IT GOES TO THE TAXPAYERS.
YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANNA RAISE TAXES TO DO THIS OR DO THAT? I MEAN, IT'S GOTTA GET TO THE POINT.
'CAUSE I KNOW YOU GET THE PHONE CALLS OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SAYING, UH, THAT, THAT THEY'RE STRUGGLING, YOU KNOW, WORKING TWO, THREE JOBS TRYING TO PAY, UM, THEIR TAXES.
AND, AND IT'S JUST REALLY, UM, FRUSTRATING FOR ME.
I'M SORRY, I'M, I I'M JUST THE, THE, UM, THE FINANCIAL PERSON HERE, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE NEED TO REALIZE WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, 20, 30 YEARS AGO WE WENT OUT AND WE, WE BORROWED ALL THIS MONEY TO, FOR SCHOOLS, FIRE STATIONS, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING AND THE NEEDS, AND THAT WAS THE THEN BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
AND THOSE WERE THEIR PRIORITIES.
WHERE OURS HAVE CHANGED, OURS IS MORE PROVIDING PUBLIC SERVICES, YOU KNOW, TO OUR, UM, TO OUR, UM, OUR CITIZENS.
BUT ANY EVENT, WHEN I CAME IN FOUR YEARS AGO, THE DEBT WAS SOMETHING LIKE $130 MILLION AND WE'RE PAYING $11 MILLION A YEAR IN DEBT SERVICE TO PAY DOWN.
AND I'M GLAD TO SAY, I THINK WE'RE DOWN 110, I THINK NOW BECAUSE WE STOPPED BORROWING MONEY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SO, SO IT'S A VERY HARD BALANCE IN MY MIND.
I AM JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AND I'VE, I'VE USED THIS ANALOGY SO MANY TIMES THAT I'M GONNA USE IT AGAIN.
IT'S LIKE A THREE STOOL, A THREE LEGGED STOOL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE.
AND I'M, AND I AM NOT ARGUING AND, AND THAT THESE, THESE TYPE OF ENDEAVORS WILL HELP BRING REVENUE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE AND PROVIDE, ENHANCING OUR SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT AT SOME POINT I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE, UH, I THINK OUR TAXPAYERS NEED TO, YOU KNOW, CHIME IN AND A REFERENDUM, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, IT'S JUST A DIFFICULT TASK BECAUSE
I MEAN, YOUR BUDGET WENT UP 370 4K AND I'M NOT ARGUING YOUR NEED.
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IT'S, UH, IT'S A HARD BALANCING ACT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I, I GOTTA, IT IS JUST WHO I AM.AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND I TELL MY CONSTITUENTS ALL THE TIME, YOU HAVE TO LOOK IT AT THE PORTFOLIO LEVEL, NOT JUST TO CHECK AND BALANCE, YOU KNOW? SO ANYWAY, SO I KNOW I'M, I'LL GET SOAPBOX, BUT I, I DO AGREE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER.
I'M SITTING HERE BITING MY TONGUE OFF.
SO HOW ARE YOU GONNA VOTE FOR A COMMUNICATIONS PERSON?
I, I'M SITTING HERE CHOKING ON IT.
WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE BUDGET FOR THAT YET.
WELL, I KNOW, BUT WE WENT OFF ON THAT, SO I GOTTA SAY IT.
VERSUS $2 MILLION, IT'S TAXPAYER'S MONEY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
WELL AGAIN, UM, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION.
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WE HAVE, UM, MR. ELECTIONSI WILL SAY THE DEADLINE FOR A REFERENDUM ON THE BALLOT FOR THIS COMING NOVEMBER IS AUGUST 15TH.
UM, I'LL BRIEFLY, I'M GONNA BE, TRY TO BE MORE BRIEF, UM, THEN PEOPLE BEFORE ME STARTING IN WITH OUR FY 26 BUDGET.
I MET WITH, UM, MS. SCOTT, FINANCE DIRECTOR YESTERDAY.
WE NOTICED IN THE REVENUE LINE THAT YOU HAVE FOR, UM, IN FRONT OF YOU FOR BOTH THE, UH, FULL-TIME FOR MY SALARY AND MY BOARD MEMBER'S COMPENSATION, THAT THAT NUMBER IS ACTUALLY INCORRECT AND WE'RE GONNA BE UPDATING IT AND INCREASING IT.
SO THAT REIMBURSEMENT THAT WE GET FROM THE STATE SHOULD BE 117,000, NOT THE 110,000.
ALSO, UH, WE INCREASED OR I INCREASED THE REVENUE LINE FOR, UH, THE REIMBURSEMENT THAT WE GET FROM THE TOWN ELECTIONS, UM, FROM 10,000 TO 15,000.
'CAUSE THAT BETTER REFLECTS THEIR PORTION OF THE SHARED EXPENSES FOR THE ELECTION.
THE TOWN IS REQUIRED BY CODE TO PAY THEIR PORTION.
UM, I ADDED BACK IN ON 10 41 CONTRACTED EMPLOYEES.
SO BY CODE, I HAVE TO APPOINT EITHER MYSELF OR MY ELECTORAL BOARD, UH, VOTING EQUIPMENT CUSTODIANS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROGRAMMING AND TESTING OF THE ELECTIONS EQUIPMENT BEFORE EACH AND EVERY ELECTION.
I NEED THOSE TWO PEOPLE TO HELP ME BECAUSE BY CODE I CAN'T DO EVERYTHING I HAVE.
THERE'S A SEPARATION OF POWERS.
UM, BRIEFLY GONNA TOUCH ON THE, UH, ASSETS AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
A LOT OF THEM, SO THE FOUR THAT YOU HAVE THERE, THE ONE THAT IS A PRIORITY FOR US IS A GENERATOR.
WE EXPERIENCED AT LEAST SEVEN DOCUMENTED POWER OUTAGES AT THE COMPLEX LAST YEAR.
UH, ONE OF WHICH WAS ACTUALLY OCCURRED DURING THE JUNE PRIMARY.
DURING EARLY VOTING, WE DID NOT HAVE POWER FOR AT LEAST TWO HOURS.
WE WERE ALSO DOING OUR PRE-ELECTION TESTING OF EQUIPMENT.
IT ALSO CAUSED, UH, MINOR DAMAGE TO OUR POSTAGE METER, WHICH WE RELY ON.
THANKFULLY THE VENDOR WAS ABLE TO COME OUT AND FIX THAT UNDER WARRANTY.
BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME KIND OF BACKUP SYSTEM FOR THAT BUILDING, SPECIFICALLY FOR OUR OFFICE, BECAUSE ELECTIONS INFRASTRUCTURE IS DEEMED CRITICAL.
IT, WE HAVE TO HAVE ELECTIONS.
THERE'S NOT, OH, WELL WE'LL JUST HAVE IT TOMORROW OR NEXT WEEK.
I KNOW THERE'S BILLS BEFORE THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO SHORTEN IT.
AND SO FAR EVERY SINGLE ONE HAS BEEN TURNED DOWN.
SO WE'VE GOT A 45 DAY PERIOD AND WARREN COUNTY WORKS OUT TO 32 VOTING DAYS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT HERE EVERY SATURDAY.
UM, BASED ON JUST ONE QUOTE THAT WE GOT SO FAR, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS.
IT WOULD GO OUT FOR QUOTES, TO GO OUT FOR BID.
THAT'S JUST FOR OUR COMPLEX FOR OUR OFFICE.
AND SPEAKING WITH TODD JONES, THE IT DIRECTOR, HE ALSO MADE MENTION NOT ONLY WOULD OUR SYSTEMS NEED A
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BACKUP, A STANDBY GENERATOR, BUT BECAUSE OF HOW STUFF IS CONNECTED DOWN HERE TO THIS BUILDING, THIS BUILDING WOULD ALSO NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF STANDBY IN THE EVENT THAT IT'S A MORE WIDESPREAD OUTAGE THAN JUST OVER ON OUR SIDE OF TOWN BECAUSE OF HOW OUR SYSTEMS ARE CONNECTED TO THIS BUILDING.I KNOW, I THINK, I BELIEVE HE'S ALSO ASKING FOR ONE AS WELL.
SO I, THAT'S JUST NOT IN HERE, IS IT? THAT'S NOT IN HERE, IS IT NOT IN YOUR WHAT'S THAT? THAT GENERATOR? YEAH, THAT'S A CAPITAL.
I BELIEVE THE REQUESTS ARE IN THE PACKET SEPARATE.
I WILL, ONE THING I WILL MAKE MENTION, SO EARLY VOTING HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 2020.
THIS WAS OUR SECOND PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WITH EARLY VOTING BEING NO EXCUSE.
MEANING YOU CAN JUST COME IN IF YOU WANT VOTE EARLY, YOU CAN VOTE EARLY.
WE HAD 10,305 VOTERS COME THROUGH OUR DOORS AND VOTE EARLY.
THAT'S THE LARGEST WE'VE EVER HAD IN PERSON DURING AN ELECTION.
SO I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS.
DOES IT LOOK LIKE EARLY VOTING'S HERE TO STAY OR WHAT? YES.
I HAVE REACHED OUT TO, UM, MULTIPLE DIFFERENT, UH, LEGISLATORS BOTH ON HOUSE OF DELEGATES AND SENATE SIDE THAT I KNOW AMONGST A LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES.
THERE IS, LET'S SHORTEN IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT WHEN YOU'VE GOT A 45 DAY PERIOD AND THE BILLS THAT ARE BEING INTRODUCED TO SHORTEN IT TO 10 DAYS OR 14 DAYS, I THINK MORE OF A MIDDLE GROUND SHOULD BE IN THAT 21 TO 30 DAYS.
'CAUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY THE AVERAGE WITH A LOT OF OTHER OF OUR NEIGHBORING STATES IS IN THAT 21 TO 30 DAY WINDOW.
YOU MADE ME THINK ABOUT THE WHOLE GENERATOR THING, BUT, UH, VOTING MACHINES, UH, WE, WE BOUGHT SOME LAST YEAR, RIGHT? MM-HMM
THOSE ARE EXPENSIVE, RIGHT? YES.
SO I'M WONDERING IF THOSE ARE ON SURGE PROTECTION NOW.
AND UH, ALSO DO WE HAVE LIKE THE LITTLE MINI BACKUP POWER SUPPLIES JUST TO BE ABLE TO GRACEFULLY SHUT THEM DOWN DURING A POWER OUT? SO THOSE, YES.
THIS IS SPECIFICALLY, THIS WOULD BE FOR OUR OFFICE.
UM, FOR OUR INTERNAL SYSTEMS AND LIKE, SO LIKE ON ELECTION NIGHT OR DURING EARLY VOTING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE LINES OF COMMUNICATION WITH THE STATE AND FOR REPORTING PURPOSES AS WELL.
BUT, BUT THE MACHINES ARE PROTECTED NOW FROM POWER, CORRECT? YES.
WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE TECHNOLOGY, UH, HARDWARE BUDGET? IT'S KIND OF UP AND DOWN, UP AND DOWN SO THAT, SO RECENTLY WE GOT APPROVED FOR A GRANT, SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A, WHERE IT BUMPS UP.
WE GOT APPROVED FOR A GRANT FOR JUST OVER 10,000, I BELIEVE.
IS THAT THE ONE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, WHERE IT GOES FROM? YEAH, IT GOES 1225.
ACTUAL $1,200 ACTUAL THEN AN AMENDED FIGURE OF 13 AND A HALF THOUSAND.
WE GOT A STATE GRANT FOR JUST OVER 10 GRAND, UM, BACK THIS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO FOR WHAT'S CALLED BALLOT ON DEMAND FOR USE DURING EARLY VOTING.
SO THAT WILL HAVE HOPEFULLY REDUCE OUR COSTS IN BALLOTS FOR EARLY VOTING BECAUSE THIS SYSTEM, WHICH IS ACTUALLY ADOPTED BY A BUNCH OF COUNTIES AND IT'S APPROVED BY THE STATE.
BASICALLY, YOU WALK IN NORMAL CHECK-IN, JUST LIKE ELECTION DAY, BUT INSTEAD OF OUR PEOPLE SITTING THERE, AND SO LIKE EARLY VOTING, IT'S ALL THE BALLOTS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTY.
INSTEAD OF THE PERSON SITTING THERE AND SORTING THROUGH THE DIFFERENT BINS TO PULL OUT THE RIGHT BALLOT, YOU CHECK IN, WE VERIFY YOUR IDENTIFICATION, AND THERE'S A PRINTER SITTING RIGHT THERE AND IT SPITS YOUR BALLOT OUT.
SO THAT DIDN'T COST THE COUNTY MONEY.
SO YOU HAD IT IN TO, TO BUY, BUT THEN YOU GOT A GRANT AND NOW IT'S OUT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THIS IS DOWN 10,000.
I THINK THAT'S THE, THAT WAS THAT LINE THAT WENT UP WAS, I BELIEVE, BECAUSE OF THE GRANT THAT WE GOT.
SO NEXT STEP WE HAVE UH, IS IS THE CLERK OF THE COURT WON'T BE HERE.
MRS. MOORE WON'T BE HERE, RIGHT? SHE'LL NOT BE HERE THIS YEAR? NO.
SO WE HAVE, UM, SO OUR LAST ONE, LET'S SEE HERE.
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THANK YOU.AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL GETTING THROUGH THE OTHER GROUPS SO FAST THAT WE HAD MORE TIME.
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GOOD EVENING.YOU DON'T HEAR ME HERE? THAT BAD? IT SEEMS LIKE I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A UP.
IS THAT BETTER? I CAN HEAR YOU FINE.
UM, I JUST WANNA, UH, START ASKING THANKS.
I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO YOU ALL FOR HAVING US HERE THIS EVENING.
I ALSO JUST WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE AND THINK SO OFTEN, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES ON BEHIND THE SCENES.
I, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS LOOKING FOR MONEY, TRYING TO FIND MONEY, LOT OF HARD WORK'S GOING BY.
UM, THE SCOTT STAFF AS WELL AS COUNTY ADMINISTRATION, MS. MEADOWS, DR.
SO WITH THAT, I'D DO YOU, IS JUST A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, JUST TO TRY TO KEEP KIND OF SCRIPTED AND ON POINT.
BUT ALONG WITH THAT I'M SURE THERE'LL BE SOME QUESTIONS IF NOT NOW LATER AND WE'LL BE MORE THAN, UH, AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THEM AT ALL.
SO, UH, TELL THE DEPARTMENT HAS NOT CHANGED.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY THE SAME SINCE I'VE COME HERE AND UH, AND BASICALLY THEY'RE ALL PREDICATED ON PRIORITIES IDENTIFIED.
UM, AND ALL ENCOMPASSING ARE ALL BASED ON A NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND MISSION CRITICAL SPECIFIC SERVE AS A PRIMARY FOCUS IN DRIVING FORCE OF THIS YEAR'S REQUEST AS IT WAS LAST YEAR.
SLIDE THREE IF, UM, JUST KIND OF GET A A LOOK AT, UM, KIND OF AN EVALUATION TOOL WE USE, BUT IT COMMITS MISSION CRITICAL BY THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS TO IDENTIFY THE CORE AREAS MUST BE ENHANCED SUPPORT TO ENSURE OUR RESPONDERS SAY, BE PREPARED AND ASK US, PROVIDING APPARAT EQUIPMENT TO EFFECTIVELY PERFORM OUR JOB WHILE ENSURING THE CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS AND REDUCING THE RISK OF THE STOP OFF THE, THANK YOU.
ARE YOU SURE? YEAH, I, JERRY IS YOURS ON? IS THAT BETTER? NO, MINE'S NOBLE.
IS THAT ANY BETTER? THANK YOU.
YEAH, A LITTLE BIT OF AN ECHO, BUT STORY OF MY LIFE.
UM, SO ANYWAY, WHY REDUCING THE RISK OF AN EMERGENCY, UM, FROM OCCURRING IN OUR COMMUNITY? I DUNNO IF Y'ALL HAVE BEEN WATCHING LATELY, BUT, UM, IN THE LAST 24 HOURS WE'VE HAD, UH, TWO FIRES AND TWO STRUCTURAL COLLAPSES.
AND, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF JUST, AND I THINK MR. JAMESON, YOU IDENTIFIED THAT, THAT THE WIDE RANGE OF RESPONSIBILITY, BUT IN THE LAST 24 HOUR PERIOD, THAT'S WHAT THE COMPANY'S ACTUALLY WE'RE ACTUALLY RUNNING, IF YOU WOULD, IN ADDITION TO THE REGULAR CALLS.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT SLIDE FOUR, THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU A, A DEPICTION OF THE ANNUAL RESPONSE DATA BROKEN DOWN IN FIRE IN EMS ON.
AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR CAREER AND VOLUNTEER RESPONDERS REMAIN STEADFAST AND RESPONDED TO 7,649 TOTAL INCIDENTS.
AND OUR COMMUNITY IN 2024, UM, REPRESENTING ABOUT A 5.45% INCREASE FROM 2023.
UH, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH BEEN ON PAR WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, UH, THAT INCREASE HAS BEEN PRETTY MUCH ON PAR WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE COVID, WHICH WAS A LITTLE ATYPICAL.
UH, PAGE FIVE DEMONSTRATES THE DISTRIBUTION OF CALL VOLUME, UM, FOR SERVICE BY STATION IN, UM, CALENDAR YEAR 2024.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE ONE THAT STANDS OUT TO YOU OBVIOUSLY IS ACROSS THE STREET.
THE DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF CALLS THAT ARE GENERATED JUST IN THAT COMPANY'S FIRST TWO DISTRICT.
MOVING TO SLIDE SIX IN OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, UM, WE HAVE PROJECTED $3,000 IN REVENUE FROM TRAINING SERVICES.
JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, THAT'S, UH, CPR CLASSES.
WE TEACH, UM, EXALTA AND A COUPLE OTHER CORPORATE AREAS WHERE WE WORK TO DO, UM, STOP THE BLEED AND SUCH.
AND BASICALLY IT DOES ENOUGH JUST TO, TO COVER, TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON.
UM, LOOKING AT THE VIRGINIA OFFICE OF EMS, WE ESTIMATE $46,600.
UM, FOR OUR FOUR FOR LIFE FUNDING PROGRAM.
THE DEPARTMENT HAS ALSO PROJECTED RECEIVING $131,793 FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE PROGRAMS A TO LOCALITY FUND.
AND BASED ON OUR THREE YEAR ANALYSIS FOR THE COST RECOVERY PROGRAM, WE PROJECTED $1,328,000 IN GENERATED REVENUE FROM THIS PROGRAM.
AND TOTAL THIS REPRESENTS A PROJECTED 15.87% INCREASE IN REVENUE FROM FFY, EXCUSE ME, FROM FY 25.
UM, MOVING ON TO OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE AND RESCUE COST RECOVERY NEW REQUEST.
UM, SO AS WE WALK THROUGH THROUGH THESE BUDGET REVIEWS, WE'LL
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HIGHLIGHT THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THE VOLUNTEER FIRE AND FIRE AND RESCUE OPERATING AS WELL AS THE COST RECOVERY BUDGET AND LOOK AT THE NEW REQUEST FOR THE UPCOMING, UM, FISCAL YEAR, STARTING WITH THE VOLUNTEER FIRE AND RESCUE BUDGET.ON SLIDE EIGHT, UM, PAGE EIGHT HIGHLIGHTS THE VOLUNTEER AND FIRE RESCUE BUDGET, WHICH IS REMAINS RELATIVELY FLAT WITH THE ONLY $245 INCREASE TO THE STATE MANDATED CONTRIBUTIONS FOR THE FOREST FIRE EXTENSION FUND CONTINUES TO SUPPORT ALL IN COUNTY VOLUNTEER STATIONS AND THE CHESTER GAP AND MIDDLETOWN AUTOMATIC AID STATIONS AND SUPPORTS THE CHESTER GAP SLASH HANOCK COUNTY STAFFING AGREEMENT AT 60%.
AS PREVIOUSLY AGREED UPON THE PREVIOUS THREE AGENCIES, THE TOTAL BUDGET REQUEST FOR THE VOLUNTEER FIRE AND RESCUE BUDGET IS $967,022.
MOVING ON TO THE FIRE AND RESCUE BUDGET, THE FIRE AND RESCUE BUDGET SUSTAINS A MINIMAL OPERATION INCREASE OF $290,000 IN, EXCUSE ME, 200 $9,400 EXCLUSIVE EXCLUSIVE OF PERSONNEL AND SALARIES.
THIS REPRESENTS A 3.92% INCREASE OF THE TOTAL FIRE AND RESCUE BUDGET AND REFLECTS FUNDS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THOSE KEY ITEMS DEEMED MISSION CRITICAL IN THE SERVICE DELIVERY OF FIRE AND RESCUE SYSTEM.
ARE THERE ANYTHING TO JUMP OUT OR ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
I WON'T READ THEM TO YOU, BUT THEY'RE PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY.
IS THAT GOOD? ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.
I'M GONNA MOVE TO SLIDE 10, UM, STARTING WITH PAGE 10 AND CONTINUES TO REVIEW, REVIEW THE FIRE AND RESCUE BUDGET, UM, INCREASE TO FIRE PREVENTION PUBLIC EDUCATION FUNDS OF 3000, UM, TO OUR SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING FUNDS OF $20,000 TO SUPPORT FIRE OPERATIONS, UM, INCREASING FOOD SUPPLIES, BEVERAGES, ET CETERA, AND ADJUSTING SALARY AND BENEFITS AND ACCORDANCE WITH PROJECTIONS AND RECEIVED BY COUNTY ADMINISTRATION.
SLIDE 11, UM, IS OUR COST RECOVERY BUDGET.
IT REVIEWS THE HIGHLIGHTS OF OUR COST RECOVERY BUDGET, INCREASING MULTIPLE LINE ITEMS TO SUPPORT PROJECTED NEEDS, WHICH INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING BULLET POINTS, UH, MOTOR VEHICLE REPAIRS TO THE TUNE OF $45,000.
AND MAY I ADD THAT SEEMS TO ALWAYS BE INCREASING, UH, ALONG VEHICLE FUELS BY $11,000.
TRAINING AND EDUCATION BY 35 GRAND EMS OPERATIONS BY $5,000.
AND WE MAINTAIN THE FUNDS FOR MAJOR PROJECTS INCLUDING AMBULANCE REPLACEMENT MEDICATION EXCHANGE PROGRAM, THE OPERATION MEDICAL DIRECTOR SERVICES, OUR EMS EQUIPMENT AND ANNUAL PAYMENT YEAR TWO OF SIX.
THE NEXT NEW REQUEST, AND I WILL SPECIFIC TO STAFFING, BUT I'M JUST WANTING TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT.
I KNOW MS. MEADOWS WILL BE COVERING ASSET REPLACEMENT AS WELL AS CAPITAL, BUT I DO WANNA PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT SO HOPEFULLY IT MAKES A LITTLE SENSE.
UM, FIREARM RESCUE OPERATIONAL STAFFING INCREASE, WE'RE ASKING FOR A TOTAL OF NINE POSITIONS TO THE TUNE OF $918,000, 609, EXCUSE ME, NINE HUNDRED EIGHTEEN SIX HUNDRED AND NINETY $1 REQUESTS, INCLUDING ALL SOFT COSTS.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY SOFT COSTS OR WHAT WE MEAN IS TO BE, TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING, TO INCLUDE THEIR GEAR, THEIR UNIFORMS, THEIR PHYSICALS, ANYTHING THAT COMES WITH THE FIREFIGHTER AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT FIREFIGHTER IS INCLUDED IN THAT NUMBER.
CONTINUES TO SUPPORT STAFFING MODEL ACROSS ALL STATION RESPONSE.
DISTRICTS ASSIST OUR HIGHLY DEDICATED VOLUNTEER RESPONDERS, WHICH ARE LIMITED NUMBERS.
WE INCREASE STAFFING, WHICH REDUCES CALL PRESSURES ON THE ADJOINING STATIONS.
AND WE'RE ALSO ADVOCATING WE INCREASE OUR FLOATER POSITIONS TO ONE EACH DAY FOR EACH SPECIFIC SHIFT, WHICH HELPS REDUCE OVERTIME COSTS AND COVERING OUR MINIMUM STAFF POSITION BY EMPLOYEES USING VARIOUS TYPES OF LEAVE AS WELL AS WE HAVE A COUPLE, TWO, THREE EMPLOYEES ON LONG ON SOME DISABILITY LEAVE AS WELL AS SOME INJURY.
LEAVE SPECIFIC OUR LIGHT DUTY ASSIGNMENTS.
THE NEXT REQUEST, UM, SLIDE 14 IS FOR A FIRE MARSHAL POSITION.
WHEN CHIEF TICA WAS PROMOTED, HE STILL KEPT THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES.
WE JUST BASICALLY PROMOTED THE POSITION BUT NEVER RECEIVED AN FTE FOR IT.
AND AS SUCH, THESE RESPONSIBILITIES STILL RESIDE.
WE DO HAVE A PART-TIME, UH, FIRE MARSHAL AND GORDON FOSTER AND WE ALSO HAVE THREE SHIFT FIRE MARSHALS THAT WORK AS COLLATERAL DUTY FOR THEIR SHIFT RESPONSIBILITIES.
THOSE TASKS, AND I JUST REACHED OUT TO DR.
DALEY RECENTLY, SEEM TO BE FOREVER GROWING.
UM, WE'D LIKE TO BE MORE INVOLVED IN THE PREEMPTIVE
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PROCESS, NOT ONLY FOR, UM, PLANNING AND ORGANIZATION FOR SOME OF OUR BUILD OUTS FOR OUR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES, BUT ALSO A PART OF THE ACTUAL SYSTEM PLANNING AS WE MOVE FOR FIRE PROTECTION SYSTEMS, ET CETERA.TRUCK 10, REPLACEMENT SLIDE NUMBER 15, UM, A LOFTY TOMB OF $2.2 MILLION, UM, AND COMMITTING $550,000 IN 25 AND 25 AND 26.
UM, THIS WOULD REPLACE THE CURRENT 2011 105 FOOT AERIAL TRUCK, WHICH WILL BE AT ITS END OF LIFE OR SOON TO BE.
UM, AND IT GIVES ALL THE SPECIFICS.
AND WE ALSO CITE HERE IN THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION AGENCY RECOMMEND RECOMMENDATION AERO DEVICE REPLACEMENT AFTER 15 YEARS OR N FPA A 1912.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN RECOVER FROM THAT? SAY LIKE IF YOU, IF YOU PUT IT UP ON THE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PUT IT UP ON THE BLOCK? YES.
SO THE RESIDUAL VALUE IS NOT MUCH IN ALL HONESTY, BECAUSE SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF THE APPARATUS AND THE LIABILITY, YOU ASSUME, UM, AND IT'S NOT A PERFECT BEING AND IT, WHEN IT WAS PURCHASED AND NOW 15 YEARS LATER IF YOU WILL, IT'S, IT'S NOT IN ITS BEST DAY IF YOU WILL.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I'M KIND OF SHOOTING FROM THE HIP AND I COULD SAY, YEAH, WE WOULD GET SOMETHING FOR IT, BUT NOT A LOT, SIR.
AND WHEN YOU SAY NOT A LOT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE 20 OR $30,000 OR, AND THAT IS SURELY AN ESTIMATE, BUT YES SIR.
UM, JUST AGAIN, AN SUV FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLE REPLACEMENT.
IT'S AN 85,000 HOUR REQUEST, WHICH WANT TO GIVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT.
THAT WILL BE REPLACING A, A TOP DOWN MOVE IN OUR, OUR FLEET, WHICH IS NOT A LOT OF VEHICLES, BUT IT'LL BE REPLACING A 2001 CHEVROLET SUBURBAN WITH 124,000 PLUS MILES ON IT.
UM, THE, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT AGAIN, UH, THE FUNDS ALSO INCLUDE NOT ONLY THE VEHICLE LIGHTING, BUT THE MARKING PACKAGE AS WELL AS THE REAR, UH, COMMAND VEHICLE ASSETS WE NEED FOR, UM, INCIDENT COMMAND AND SAFETY AND ACCOUNTABILITY ON A FIRE GROUND.
THE, UH, SLIDE 17 JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF OUR BUDGET REQUEST TO YOU AND HOW WE PREPARE FOR YOU, AS WELL AS, UM, HOW WE CONTINUE TO EVOLVE AND PLAN AND PREPARE FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR PROCESS.
WE TRY TO CONTINUALLY EVALUATE OUR BUDGETARY CONCERNS AND THAT'S THE, UH, PROCESS WE USE.
JUST IN SUMMARY, UM, REVENUE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A 15.87% INCREASE OR $117,000 AND SOME CHANGE, EXCUSE ME, RIGHT? SOME WATER.
UM, THE VOLUNTEER BUDGET, UM, $245 INCREASE OR A SLIGHT INCREASE THERE.
FIRE AND RESCUE $290,000 WERE A 3.92% INCREASE COST RECOVERY OF $91,000 AND A 7.35% INCREASE, UM, COVERED BY OUR EMS REVENUE.
UM, NEW PERSONNEL REQUESTS, MILLION DOLLARS, 46 AND 44 CENTS, INCREASED OPERATIONAL STAFFING OF NINE TO SUPPORT COSTS OF $918,000 AND SOME CHANGE.
6 91 IN A FIRE MARSHAL POSITION OF SUPPORT COST OF 127,353, TRUCK 10 REPLACEMENT AT $2.2 MILLION OVER A FOUR YEAR SPAN.
AND THE U VEHICLE ONE REPLACEMENT AND ONE ADDITION FOR A TOTAL OF $170,000.
IT WAS A LOT COVERED IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND I TRIED TO KEEP IT BRIEF.
AND WITH THAT I WILL CLOSE AND ASK IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
I HAVE MS, I'M SORRY, I HAVE A QUESTION.
FOR THE FIRE AND RESCUE, THIS IS, UH, THE SPREADSHEET THAT I'M LOOKING AT.
SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE FIRE AND RESCUE, IT LOOKS LIKE THE BUDGET CHANGE FROM 25 TO 20.
UM, WAS REDUCED 626 K, IS THAT TRUE
MOST OF THOSE CHANGES THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THAT SPREADSHEET ARE SOME SALARY NUMBERS THAT WERE WAITING FOR ADJUSTMENTS, UM, FROM THE FINANCE TEAM.
IT'S PAGE, PAGE, UH, TWO OR THREE.
WELL, OKAY, I I, UM, WHERE I WAS GOING WITH MY QUESTION OKAY.
WAS, YOU KNOW, SINCE YOU WERE ASKING, WE'RE ASKING FOR 918 K.
AND IF WE HAD THIS, THIS, UM, CHANGE OF 626 K, I WAS GONNA SAY, WELL, THAT WOULD ABSORB SOME OF, OF THE A HUNDRED OF THE 918 K.
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FROM, UH, HOW DO I PHRASE THIS? FROM THE BUDGET THAT YOU HAD LAST YEAR, YOU'RE ABLE TO ABSORB SOME OF THE COSTS, SALARY COSTS THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR FISCAL YEAR 26.THAT WAS WHAT I WOULD, THAT'S WHY I WAS LOOKING AT THIS NUMBER, YOU KNOW, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, IF I COULD LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT OR NOT, BUT NO, WE, WE THINK THAT THERE'S SOME ADJUSTMENTS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN IN THE SALARY SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
IT'S NOT JUST TRUE AND ACCURATE.
WE WORKED WITH, UM, OUR FINANCE TEAM TODAY TO TRY TO RECONCILE SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS.
UM, I, I WISH WE WERE HERE TELLING YOU WE WERE ABLE TO STATE $600,000 IN, IN THE BUDGET, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S ACCURATE.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A DELTA AND THE DELTA IS PRINCIPALLY A CHANGE IN CANCER PREVENTION MEASURES, UH, WHICH WERE 615,020 FY 25 AMENDED, 581 FY 25, ACTUAL NOTHING REQUESTED FOR FY 26.
THAT'S WHY IT'S A, A DECREASE OF SIX 15.
AND WHAT, WHAT THAT WAS IS YOU'LL SEE THAT THE AMENDED VALUE WAS THE FEDERAL FUNDS THAT WERE MOVED TO THAT AND TO SUPPORT THAT LINE THIS YEAR FOR THE SECONDARY SETS OF PPE PROGRAMS. SO, UM, IT'S NOT REALLY A REDUCTION OF TAX BASED DOLLARS IS WHAT YOU MAY SEE.
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? UM, TWO, TWO QUICK ONES.
ONE IS JUST LOOKING AT THE CALL VOLUME.
UM, PERCENTAGE WISE, IT LOOKS LIKE EMS WAS ONLY UP TWO OR 3%, BUT FIRE WAS UP LIKE 23 OR MORE PERCENT.
UH, IS IS THERE ANYTHING COMMON TO THAT INCREASE IN FIRES? ACTUALLY, NO.
SO WE HAVE IN THIS YEAR SPECIFICALLY, WE HAVE INCREASED OUR FIRE PREVENTION EFFORTS DOOR TO DOOR KNOCKING ON COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES TO ENSURE WE HAVE SMOKE DETECTOR PLACEMENT.
WE HAVE ONE OF OUR BEST AND BRIGHTEST, UM, LISA WILBANKS KIND OF LEADING THAT EFFORT.
SHE'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF DOING JUST THAT.
AND AS SUCH, WE'VE KIND OF CHALLENGED THE OTHER TWO SHIFTS AND THE BATTALION CHIEF'S BROUGHT HER ON JUST ON AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE'RE OUT THERE GETTING IT DONE.
AS FAR AS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN ON THE PREEMPTIVE SIDE, I COULD NOT TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY AS TO THE, WHAT I KNOW THAT, UM, CHIEF MYCO ALONG WITH HIS TEAM IS INVESTIGATING SOME, UM, POTENTIAL FOR NEFARIOUS ACTIVITY IN SOME CASES.
BUT THE LARGER PERCENTAGE I WOULD NOT SAY IS THAT, AND I'M BEING STRAIGHT WITH THAT.
UM, IT IS INTERESTING THOUGH BECAUSE, UM, THE REASON I, I CITED TODAY THE ISSUE OF CALL VOLUME AND I'VE SAID SEVERAL TIMES ON THE EMS SIDE OF THE HOUSE, YOU GOT REALLY SICK PEOPLE AND ON THE FIRE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, YOU CAN REST ASSURE WHEN YOU GO OUT THE DOOR, YOU'RE GONNA GO, YOU'RE GONNA GO TO WORK.
AND I WAS, I SAY THAT TO YOU HONESTLY, AND IT SEEMS MORE, MORE PREVALENT TODAY THAN I'VE EVER SEEN IT.
'CAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS, FAKI COUNTY AS AN EXAMPLE, UM, THEY TOO HAVE AN INCREASE, BUT NOT TO THE DEGREE WE HAVE.
SO IT'S A LONG WAY OF SAYING, I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC ANSWER FOR YOU MR. STANMORE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING INTO THE REASONS WHY AND, BUT I, I COULDN'T GIVE YOU ANY VALUE BEHIND IT.
UM, AND THEN, UH, MY OTHER QUESTION WAS JUST ABOUT THE, THE MATRIX STUDY AND THE STATUS ON THAT.
ARE THEY, I REMEMBER THEY WERE GATHERING DATA AND THE DOCUMENT REQUESTS WERE OUT ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
UM, WHAT'S THE CURRENT STATE AND NEXT STEPS? SO THE DATA COLLECTION IS COMPLETE AS OF THE LAST FRIDAY.
UM, THEY HAVE, JERRY AND I JUST HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
WE'LL HAVE THE FIRST PREEMPTIVE MEETING TO KIND OF SET THE SLATE TO MOVE OUT ON FEBRUARY 13 OR 1300 HOURS.
AND THAT'S JUST GONNA BE, UH, A VIRTUAL MEETING WITH THE UNDERSTANDINGS.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO, BUT IT KIND OF WILL SET THE LANDSCAPE OF WHERE TO GO FROM THERE.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, JUST I WAS LOOKING AT THE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD THE CALL VOLUME BY STATION IN HERE.
UH, SHADO SHORES HAS THE LOWEST, UH, BUT I KNOW THAT SEPTEMBER IS WHEN WE FULLY STAFFED THEM.
HAVE THEY ROUGHLY DOUBLED BECAUSE THEY'RE ABLE TO GET TO MORE CALLS NOW, UH, SINCE THAT STAFF INCREASE WENT UP WHEN S SIGNIFICANTLY, SO THEY'RE, THEIR, UM, THEIR MONTHLY CALL INCREASE IS ALREADY SEEING A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE BASED OFF OF THE 24 HOUR STAFFING.
SO WHEN WE HAVE 2025, IT SHOULD BE A LOT HIGHER THAN 2024.
AND I CAN EMAIL YOU WHAT THOSE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE FROM THE MONTHLY COMPARISON
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OF, UM, WHAT WE DID IN JANUARY OF 20, UM, FOUR VERSUS JANUARY OF 25 OUT OF THAT RESPECTIVE STATION TO JUST SHOW YOU KIND OF A HOLISTIC LOOK OF WHAT THE STAFFING IMPACT HAS.YEAH, I DEFINITELY HEAR THE SIRENS MORE FREQUENTLY.
SO, UH, CHIEF, UH, IF I READ THIS CORRECTLY, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AN INCREASE OF 3.36 MILLION.
I HATE TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD AS SOON AS YOU SAID IT SCARED ME, BUT YES SIR.
I, WELL, IT'S NOT FUNNY IT'S ANYTHING BUT FUNNY.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S EXPENSIVE AND WELL, IT IT'S EXPENSIVE, BUT YOU KNOW, THE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, BY, BY THE, BY THE, THE CONSTITUTION, THIS IS PART OF WHAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IS THE, IS THE HEALTH AND SAFE WHERE THE, THE SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THIS COUNTY.
AND THE FIRST TWO THINGS THAT COME UP IS, UH, IS FIRE AND RESCUE AND, UH, AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, OF THE, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AND I, I KNOW, AND IT'S, AND I'VE SAID TO ALL OF YOU, IT'S REALLY INTERESTING.
THE REASON I EMPHASIZE MISSION CRITICAL, IT IS JUST THAT, I MEAN, IT'S ABOUT SAFETY AND ACCOUNTABILITY ON A FIRE GROUND.
IT'S NOT SURE AND HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO GO TO WORK WHEN YOU HAVE A FIRE.
AND AND I SAY THIS TO YOU BECAUSE WE CAN CONTRAST IT IN A LOT OF WAYS, AND I'M NOT SELLING FEAR, I'M JUST TELLING YOU LIKE IT IS, WE'RE NOT CLOSE TO THE STANDARD WE NEED TO BE.
YOU GUYS HAVE ALLOWED US, AND THANK YOU TO GROW IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND DO NOT THINK, WE'RE NOT APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.
WE'RE, WE'RE PLAYING A LOT OF CATCH UP.
UM, SO AS AN EXAMPLE, THE NINE POSITIONS WE'RE ASKING FOR IN OPERATIONS, JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT, SIX OF THEM GO ACROSS THE STREET TO GIVE US THREE AND TWO BASICALLY ALLOWS US NOW TO START REALLY STAFFING NOT PERFECTLY, BUT MUCH MORE APPROPRIATELY.
AND THAT'LL BE THE FIRST HOUSE WE'LL MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.
THE, AND WITH THE ROTATION OF HAVING FLOATERS TWO, IT ALLOWS US TO BACKFILL VACANCIES, HOPEFULLY BEING A BETTER STEWARD OF THE MONEY, MORE EFFICIENT AND CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS ACROSS THE THREE SHIFTS.
SO WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS, AND I'D LIKE TO SAY I DREAMT IT UP, BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO.
IT'S THE STANDARD THAT WE'RE ASPIRING TO.
IT'S A FIRST HUGE STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO MOVE TO A DOUBLE PULL CONCEPT.
UM, WE HAVE ALLOWED THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE OFFICER AND THE BATTALION CHIEFS TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A HYBRID MODEL TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CITIZEN BASE.
EXAMPLE BEING IF IT'S AN EMS RUN, YOU GO OUT THE DOOR AND YOU STILL HAVE A STAFF FIRETRUCK.
IF YOU HAVE A FIRE GO OUT THE DOOR, BUT IF YOU HAVE A HEART ATTACK ACROSS THE STREET, TAKE THAT SECOND MEDIC UNIT AND MEET THAT NEED FOR THE COMMUNITY, HENCE RESPONSE TIME DOOR TO BALLOON TIME, LESS TISSUE DAMAGE.
IT'S THE RIGHT WAY OF DOING BUSINESS.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY EFFICIENT GIVEN THE, AND I HEARD WHEN I WALKED IN HERE, TWO OF THEM A $0.2 MILLION DEFICIT.
WE ARE VERY COGNIZANT OF THAT.
SO WHAT WE MOVE TO WE'RE VERY, EXCUSE ME, JUDICIOUS WITH.
I HAVE NO MOISTURE IN MY MOUTH.
I DON'T, NO IDEA WHY THAT REASON IS, BUT I DON'T, I'M NOT HAVING A STROKE.
I'M ON ALARM YOU, SO I'LL TELL YOU THAT.
BUT IT ALLOWS US TO BE IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE, ALBEIT IMPERFECT, BUT SERVE THE CITIZEN BASE WHAT THEY NEED TO BE, MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.
ALTHOUGH THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS, IS THAT PEOPLE MAY, THEY BULK AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT UNTIL THEY NEED IT, AND THEN THEY'LL BE WONDERING, WELL, HOW COME WE DIDN'T HAVE IT? I CONCUR, SIR.
AND ALSO CLARIFY ON YOUR STATEMENT AS WELL, SIR.
WHILE IT'S LOOKS LIKE A $3 MILLION INCREASE, DON'T FORGET THAT LADDER TRUCK CAN BE SPREAD OVER A FOUR YEAR WHILE IT'S BEING BILLED.
WE ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO PAY UNTIL DELIVERY.
SO WHAT WE DO IS WE JUST SIGN THE, THE, THE CONTRACT, BASICALLY THE ORDER.
AND WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND IS YOU JUST SPREAD THAT OVER A FOUR, FOUR YEAR TERM.
SO, AND THEN I OH, SO SO THAT'S THAT LAST ONE ON THERE, THE SUV? NO SIR.
THAT'S THE LADDER TRUCK REPLACEMENT, THE $2.2 MILLION.
I I WAS JUST KIDDING WITH YOU CHIEF.
NO, I ATTICA ABOUT THE UH, SUV THING.
BUT UH, GOING BACK TO THE, UM, THE TRUCK REPLACEMENT, WE STILL HAVE TO COMMIT HALF OF THAT NEXT YEAR, RIGHT? THE FIVE, IT SAYS 550 K, I'M LOOKING ON SLIDE 15.
WHAT MS. MEADOWS WILL SHOW YOU IS THE RECOMMENDATION IS 550,000 A YEAR FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
RATHER THAN THE 2.2 ALL UP LUMP SUM
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LUMP.I BELIEVE IS HOW THAT'S STRUCTURED.
I'M SURE THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
UM, AND WHILE OUR HAT'S IN HAND, IT'S MOST DEFINITELY A MISSION CRI CRITICAL NECESSITY OR WE WOULDN'T BE ASKING.
SO, UM, WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, WE'LL CLOSE.
OKAY, SO THAT, UH, THAT'S THE, UH, THE, THE LAST OF THE PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT.
DO I HAVE A IT'S STILL IN COURT, SIR.
THE CLERK OF THE COURT IS STILL IN TRACK.
ALRIGHT, SO THE UH, OH, GO AHEAD.
DO I HAVE ANY, I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT.
WE HAVE A BIG JOB ON OUR HANDS.
THIS IS A BIG, BIG CHALLENGE FROM WHAT OUR PROJECTED REVENUE VERSUS WHAT WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE AND MAKE A DECISION IF WE EQUALIZE OR WE RAISE RATES.
I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S A BLI, WHICH IS YOU TAKE 10 POUNDS OF STUFF AND STIFF IT OUT, STUFF IT INTO A FIVE POUND BAG.
YOU GOTTA REMEMBER EVERYBODY DOES THE JIM
THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE THESE.
SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO, SO MOVED.