* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. WELL, WE CAN SEE [00:00:01] YOU VERY [B. Discussion - Baenziger & Associates - Progress update with County Administrator Recruitment ] GOOD. SO THIS IS GONNA HAVE TO BE A, A VERY SHORT PHONE CALL BECAUSE WE HAVE A, UH, PUBLIC MEETING THAT WILL BEGIN IN FIVE MINUTES AT, UH, UH, 7:00 PM EASTERN, UH, DAYLIGHT TIME. OKAY. WELL, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY, AND SO WE HAVE PREPARED A SCHEDULE THAT WOULD CHANGE, THAT CHANGE WHAT WE HAD PRESENTED EARLIER. WELL, LET'S GO BACK. PRESENTED A SCHEDULE, THEN WE PRESENTED A LONGER SCHEDULE, AND NOW WE'RE BACK TO A FASTER SCHEDULE. OKAY. I THINK ED GOT COPIES OF THAT SO YOU CAN, UH, SEE THEM. YES, WE, WE'VE GOT THEM. OKAY. AND, UH, ASSUMING EVERYTHING'S OKAY WITH YOU, THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE, WELL, THE, UH, WE WERE LOOKING AT, UH, UH, ORIGINALLY WE WERE LOOKING AT JULY 1ST AS THE, UH, AS THE DATE THAT, UH, THAT WE WERE, YOU KNOW, UH, LOOKING AT, UM, HAVING THE, UH, SELECTIONS. BUT, UH, IS THAT, IS THAT STILL DOABLE? 'CAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, SORRY, THE 1ST OF JULY. 1ST OF JULY. 1ST OF JULY. I DON'T BELIEVE SO. OKAY. SEE WHERE WE'RE AT. SECOND. APOLOGIES. I SHOULDA HAD THIS UP. THERE WE GO. ACTUALLY, WE'RE SHOWING JULY 28TH. UH, MR. , THIS IS, UH, RICH JAMESON. I, I WONDER IF THE, I'M LOOKING AT THE SCHEDULE AND I DON'T REALLY SEE A COMPRESSION OPPORTUNITY, UH, OTHER THAN POTENTIALLY BETWEEN NOW AND APRIL 29TH. UM, THAT IS, IS IS THERE, IS THERE, IS IT NECESSARY TO BE, UH, SITTING FOR THOSE TWO WEEKS? WELL, WE'RE NOT REALLY SAFE. WE'RE PREPARING A, UM, BROCHURE TO, UH, AND, UH, PUTTING IT TOGETHER. OF COURSE, WE NEED TO TALK TO YOU. RIGHT. AND MY QUE MY POINT WAS COULD YOU, I GUESS, I GUESS ACTUALLY I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. WE JUST MOVE MORE QUICKLY. IF YOU'RE WILLING TO DO ZOOM INTERVIEWS, I I WOULD THINK THE, THE PEOPLE WORKING ON, UH, BROCHURES PROBABLY AREN'T YOU. AND, AND THE PEOPLE WE'LL BE TALKING TO WILL BE YOU. SO, UH, I, THAT'S MY, MY QUESTION IS IF WE NEED TO WAIT TILL THE 29TH TO HAVE, UH, MEETINGS WITH MEMBERS. WELL, WE WERE, WE WERE PLANNING ON HAVING SCOTT OUT TO MEET WITH YOU IN PERSON, BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE US, IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH US DOING ZOOM INTERVIEWS OR MICROSOFT TEAMS, WE CAN START. I HAVE NO PROBLEM. YOU SEE, YOU SUGGEST OFF. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. YES, YES. OKAY. AND I'M SEEING IT. APRIL 29TH IS WHEN, UH, MEETINGS WITH MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND KEY STAFF START, UH, QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS SIMPLY WHETHER, UH, THEY COULD START ESSENTIALLY NOW AND, UH, UH, SAY TWO WEEKS. I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE COULDN'T. UM, ARE YOU ALL AVAILABLE? UH, I GUESS WE COULD, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO IT ALL ON ONE DAY BECAUSE, UH, WE COULD DO IT BY TEAMS, OBVIOUSLY, DO IT WHEN YOU ARE AVAILABLE. OH. SO YEAH, WE CAN GET SOME TIME OFF THAT WAY. MAY I, THIS IS VICKI COOK. I JUST WANTED TO ASK ONE QUESTION. SO WHEN YOU, UM, IN YOUR TASK THAT SAYS MEETING WITH MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND KEY STAFF, ET CETERA, ARE YOU LOOKING AT MEETING WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AS A GROUP OR INDIVIDUALLY? BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MIGHT HELP IN, UM, CON COMPRESSING THIS. YEAH. INDIVIDUALLY USUALLY WORKS A LITTLE BETTER. OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE TO COORDINATE A MEETING TIME WITH ALL FIVE OF YOU. I MEAN, THAT WAS WHY WE DIDN'T START BACK IN MARCH, BECAUSE THREE OF YOU WERE GONNA BE OUT OF TOWN ON THE 27TH, I BELIEVE. BUT, UH, SO I, I, I MEAN, I WOULD ADVOCATE JUST DOING IT INDIVIDUALLY, AND WE CAN SCHEDULE TIME WITH EACH OF YOU IN THE NEXT, LET'S SEE, TODAY'S TUESDAY. WE CAN PROBABLY GET OFF ALL YOU NEXT, UH, BY FRIDAY OR THE END OF FRIDAY, IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE. NO, I'M AVAILABLE. I'LL MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE. CHERYL, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT MY SCHEDULE. I AM, [00:05:01] I'M, I'M VERY SURPRISED AT THIS BECAUSE I WAS NOT PUT IN THE LOOP THAT WE WERE PUSHING THIS ON A FAST TRACK. WHEN WAS THAT DECIDED? WELL, THE ORIGINAL SCHEDULE SUBMITTED WITH THE CONTRACT HAD US CONCLUDING JULY 1ST. THEN SOME OTHER SCHEDULE APPEARED THAT HAD US CONCLUDING OCTOBER 2ND, WHICH I NEVER WAS IN THE LOOP ON. SO I JUST SAID, I SAID, WHY ARE WE WAITING TILL OCTOBER 7TH? WHY AREN'T WE DOING IT ACCORDING TO THE SCHEDULE THAT WAS IN THE CONTRACT, THAT, THAT EVIDENTLY, UM, RESULTED IN GOING BACK TO THE COMPRESSED SCHEDULE, WHICH I'M AN ADVOCATE OF. BUT I, AS A BOARD MEMBER, I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THIS. AND I HAVEN'T BEEN MADE AWARE OF ANY OF THIS. THE ONLY TIME I WAS AWARE WHEN WE STARTED THIS BACK, UM, LAST FALL WAS THAT DR. DALEY WAS WILLING TO STAY HERE UNTIL DECEMBER 31ST. AND THAT WE WERE HOPING TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN PLACE BY OCTOBER SO THAT THERE WOULD BE AN OVERLAP THERE. AND I NEVER HEARD THAT THAT CHANGED. SO I'M JUST QUITE SURPRISED AT THIS SUDDEN RUSH TO GET THIS DONE. UH, I'M, I'M NOT CONSIDERING IN A SUDDEN RUSH BECAUSE THEY, THEY, THEY SUBMITTED A PROPOSAL AND WE ACCEPTED IT. THAT HAD A, A COMPLETION DATE OF JULY 1ST. AND MY, UH, ONE OF MY CRITERIA THAT, UH, THAT HELPED ME LEAN TOWARD THE SELECTION WAS THE, UM, THE, THAT, THE TIMELY NATURE OF THEIR WORK. SO IT WAS, IT'S, IT'S JUST OUR, IT WAS OUR CONTRACT. THAT'S WHAT'S IN OUR CONTRACT. THAT'S WHAT THEY AGREED TO DO BY CONTRACT. SO, BUT I, FOR ME, IT'S A SUDDEN, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN PARTY TO ANY OF THIS DISCUSSION. WELL, I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU, IF YOU, UH, SAW THE CONTRACT THAT WE SIGNED. I'M NOT SURE I HAVE, HONESTLY, AND I DO CHECK MY EMAILS A LOT, SO I, I WILL LOOK THROUGH THEM AGAIN TO SEE, BUT I HONESTLY DON'T REMEMBER SEEING A CONTRACT. SO I'M, I, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS ALL A SURPRISE TO ME AT HOW FAST THIS HAS BEEN, UM, PUSHED FORWARD. NOW, IT'S JUST MY HONESTY, JOHN. UM, I THINK IT'S, IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR ALL. OH, DID YOU? YEAH, IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE'RE ALL IN THE LOOP ON TIME. WE COULD GET TO JULY 1ST, AND JULY 1ST IS THE WEEK OF THE FOURTH. SO FRIDAY WOULD BE THE DAY OFF. YEAH. WELL, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT ROLLING BACK TO THE JULY ONE IS, IS FEASIBLE AT THIS POINT. 'CAUSE THERE'S BEEN TIME LOST. HE'S JUST, MR. BESSINGER HAS SUBMITTED A REVISED SCHEDULE BASED ON WHAT'S, WHAT HE THINKS, AND HIS JUDGMENT IS FEASIBLE FROM TODAY FORWARD. WHAT MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS MAKING SURE WE HAVE ADEQUATE TIME OF THAT OVERLAP. LIKE WE WERE PLANNING FOR AT LEAST THREE MONTHS OF OVERLAP AND MAYBE UP TO SIX MONTHS OF OVERLAP TO DO THE BRAIN DUMP FROM THAT VERY LARGE BRAIN OVER THERE TO, TO THE NEW PERSON. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARY. IT'S NOT NECESSARY SAYING NO. OKAY. OKAY. NO, I MEAN, IT ALL GOES INTO, WE SELECT AND THE SKILLSET AND THE QUALIFICATIONS, YOU KNOW, SO, WELL, I PREFER TO DO MINE INDIVIDUALLY. I'LL JUST BE HONEST WITH IT. I, I'VE, THAT'S MY COMFORT LEVEL. I'D LIKE TO DO IT AS AN INDIVIDUAL. I'M, I'M FOR INDIVIDUAL TOO. SO, UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL SEND YOU MY DATES. ALL RIGHT. UM, STARTING, YOU KNOW, NEXT WEEK, THIS WEEK, . SO WHAT I LIKE TO DO, DR. DALEY, IS, UH, SET UP A, UM, UH, A TIME WITH, UH, UM, COLIN BENZINGER AND, AND ALSO BE THE, UH, THE, YOU AND I WILL BE THE POINTS OF CONTACT FOR, UH, COLIN BENZINGER. YES, SIR. OKAY. MM-HMM . AND, UH, WELL, WE'RE ACTUALLY FIVE MINUTES OVERDUE, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, IF I, YEAH, I'M SORRY. BEFORE, I KNOW WE'RE IN A RUSH. I JUST WANTED TO, UM, SAY THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU, YOU KNOW, RECONSIDERING YOUR SCHEDULE AND TO, UM, PULL IT AHEAD. I KNOW THAT MUST HAVE BEEN A LOT OF HARD WORK FOR YOU, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS. UH, OH, I, I THINK YOU'RE ON MUTE. CAN YOU STILL HEAR US? THERE? THERE, THERE WE GO. WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW, . YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, IF YOU'LL TELL US ONE DAY YOU'D LIKE US TO HIT, WE'LL SEE WHAT WE'LL EVIDENT EARTH TO HIT IT. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL, WE'LL DO THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH, THANK YOU, SIR. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. ALRIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU. OKAY, SO [C. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America] I HAVE THE TIME IS, UH, 7 0 4. UM, AND SO THE, [00:10:01] UH, OUR, UM, UH, MEETING OFFICIALLY BEGINS. SO O I'D LIKE TO START WITH, UM, PASTOR STEP. I'D LIKE TO, UH, AGAIN, THANK THE BOARD FOR ALLOWING US TO, TO OPEN UP THESE MEETINGS WITH PRAYER AND JUST HAVING, UH, THE LORD BE PART OF IT. AND SO THANK YOU FOR THAT PRIVILEGE. AND SO IF WE COULD, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PRAY. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, JUST THE DAY THAT YOU'VE MADE AND YOUR BLESSINGS THAT, UH, YOU HAVE LAVISHED ON US. AND FATHER, AS WE BEGIN THIS MEETING TONIGHT, WE, WE PRAY FOR THOSE IN FRONT OF US, LORD, THAT ARE, UH, HAVE BEEN TASKED WITH THE, UM, THE RESPONSIBILITY OF, UH, GOVERNING THAT THE, THE PEOPLE HAVE PUT THEIR CONFIDENCE IN THEM AND AND FOR THEM TO MAKE WISE CHOICES FOR THEM TO, TO DO THE THINGS THAT IS BEST FOR, UH, THE COMMUNITY HERE IN MORIN COUNTY AND FRONT ROYAL. WE, UH, THANK YOU FOR THEIR WILLINGNESS TO, TO DIVE INTO, UH, SUCH A LARGE UNDERTAKING. AND WE PRAY YOUR BLESSING OF NOT ONLY WISDOM, BUT UH, STRENGTH AND DISCERNMENT AS THEY GO FORWARD. AND FATHER, FOR EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT THAT'S, UM, GONNA BE SPEAKING INTO THE THINGS, THE CONCERNS OF THEIR LIVES AND OF THEIR HEARTS, UH, WE THANK YOU THAT WE LIVE IN A NATION WHERE THAT IS POSSIBLE. WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES BEING, UH, ABLE TO FREELY GIVE OUR OPINIONS AND TO, TO, UM, COME TO THOSE THAT DO GOVERN AND, UH, GIVE OUR REQUESTS. AND THANK YOU FOR JUST, UH, THAT, UM, FREEDOM THAT WE HAVE THAT IS, UH, RARELY SEEN, UH, IN THIS WORLD. AND SO WE JUST, AGAIN, PRAY YOUR BLESSING ON, UH, THIS TIME TOGETHER. WE ASK FOR YOU TO, UM, UH, GIVE THIS DAY, UH, AND THIS EVENING. AND WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD, UH, AGAIN, YOUR HAND BE UPON EACH AND EVERY ONE. AND WE THANK YOU AND PRAISE YOU IN JESUS' NAME. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND REPUBLIC WHO STAND ONE NATION UNDERGONE INDIVIDUALLY LIBERTY. OKAY. SO WE HAVE, [D. Adoption of Agenda — Additions or Deletions ] UH, NEXT, UH, IS THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? UH, YES SIR. I'D LIKE TO ADD UNDER, UM, NN 23, WHICH WOULD BE A RESOLUTION HONORING THE WARREN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE ANIMAL CONTROL DEPUTIES FOR THE NATIONAL ANIMAL CARE AND CONTROL ASSOCIATION. WEEK ITEM N 24 RESOLUTION HONORING THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS CENTER TEAM FOR NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATIONS WEEK AND N 25, UM, EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT NOTIFICATION FOR COURTHOUSE SEWER LINE REPAIRS. DO I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I OKAY. IF I HAVE, UH, IF I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS, DO I HAVE A, UH, A MOTION? NO, I'VE MOVED TO, TO ADD THOSE TO THE AGENDA. OKAY. SECOND ROLL CALL. MRS. COOK. AYE. DR. JAMES? AYE. MR. CHAIRMAN? AYE. MR. STAN MEYER? AYE. MRS. CUT. AYE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THE [E. Treasurer - Update on Investment Accounts ] NEXT IS THE, UH, UPDATE ON INVESTMENT ACCOUNTS FROM THE TREASURER. UH, THE TREASURER WILL ELECT YOU THE REPORT THAT YOU HAVE THERE, SIR. OKAY. , IS THIS THE ONE WHERE IT SAYS 6 MILLION TRANSFERRED FROM WEALTH MANAGEMENT? IS THAT HER, HER REPORT? I THINK SO, YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. SO NOTHING WAS MOVED TO THE [00:15:01] STATE ACCOUNT THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY? UH, YEAH, $5 MILLION WAS MOVED. OKAY. WELL THAT SAYS WE'LL BE DEPOSITED IN UNITED BANK, SO, OKAY, WELL, 1 MILLION. OKAY. SO SHE DID PUT SOMETHING IN THERE. WELL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ IT SO EVERYBODY ELSE CAN HEAR WHAT, WHAT SHE, WHAT SHE GAVE US. SO SHE SAID 6 MILLION TRANSFER FROM WEALTH MANAGEMENT INTO ATLANTIC UNION MONEY MARKET ACCOUNT. FIVE. YES. OH, OKAY. 5 MILLION WAS CONTRIBUTED, COMPLETED THE VIP LIQUIDITY POOL AND 1 MILLION WILL BE DEPOSITED IN THE UNITED BANK TO COVER EXPENDITURES. PETURES, THEN SHE SAID ON APRIL 11TH, 2025, THE BALANCE OF THE VIP LIQUIDITY POOL WAS $10,027,573. THE FUNDS OVER 10 MILLION IS INTEREST INCOME. SO THIS IS KIND OF GOOD NEWS THAT WE'RE STARTING TO MAKE THE TRANSFERS TO VIP UM, APRIL 10TH, THE STATEMENT BALANCES FOR THE WEALTH MANAGEMENT ACCOUNT AT ATLANTIC UNION ARE FOLLOWS, COUNTY OF WARREN COUNTY AGENCY IS $9,159,704 TO 51 CENTS. SCHOLARSHIP AGENCY IS, UH, 206,427 AND 68 CENTS. THE IR IRREVOCABLE TRUST IS EIGHT HUNDRED TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED TWO THOUSAND AND TWENTY NINE CENTS. UM, THERE, THERE IS AN 800,000 MATURE FUNDS AVAILABLE IN THE ATLANTIC UNION WEALTH MANAGEMENT MONEY MARKET TO BE MOVED. UH, SHE SAYS ATLANTIC UNION UNION MONEY MARKET SWEPT ACCOUNT IS 5,000,509 19,859 AND 31 CENTS. ALL THE ACCOUNTS OF ATLANTIC UNION THAT HAVE EX IN OUTSTANDING CHECKS WILL REMAIN FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS AFTER THE DATE OF THE LAST CHECK WRITTEN ON THOSE ACCOUNTS CHECKS OLDER THAN SIX MONTHS AT ATLANTA. KEGAN AT THAT TIME WILL BE STATE DATED, OH, STALE, DATED IN RETURN, NOT PAID. AND THEN SHE HAS THE UNI UNITED BANK OPERATING ACCOUNT IS $1,071,579 AND 82 CENTS. SO THE, SO IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THAT, UH, THAT THERE'S STILL ABOUT $5 MILLION THAT COULD BE MOVED TO THE VIP ACCOUNT. THAT STILL HAS NOT BEEN MOVED? I THINK SO, YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WELL, AT LEAST WE'RE, WE'RE STARTING TO PICK UP SOME OF THE, UM, UM, THE, THE INTEREST MM-HMM . THAT, UH, THAT'S GOOD THAT WE'RE PICKING UP. YEP. ALRIGHT. [F. Public Comment Period for Items on the Agenda (30-Minute Time Limit) ] OKAY. SO WE'VE GOT OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. SO JUST TO, JUST TO REMIND THE, UH, THAT THE AUDIENCE HERE, THAT THE, UH, FIRST, THAT THAT PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS DIVIDED INTO TWO SEGMENTS. THE FIRST COMMENT PERIOD IS FOR THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA, UH, THAT'S 30 MINUTES. THE SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS FOR THOSE FOR ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA AND NOT PART OF A, UM, UH, OF A, UH, A PUBLIC, UH, HEARING. SO THE, UH, ALL COMMENTS WILL BE, BE DIRECTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND NOT TO THE, UH, AUDIENCE. BE CONSIDERATE OF YOUR FELLOW SPEAKERS. THERE SHOULD BE NO APPLAUSE, BOOING OR OTHER AUDIBLE DISRUPTION TO THE PROCEEDINGS. THROUGH A SHOW OF HANDS, THE CHAIRMAN MAY ASK FOR A SHOW OF SUPPORT FOR COMMENTS MADE BY SPEAKERS. PLACARDS, POSTERS, UH, POSTERS AND OTHER MEANS OF VISUAL DISPLAY OF COMMENT WILL NOT BE PERMITTED IN THE BOARD MEETING ROOM. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE INFORMATION OR MATERIALS USED AS PART OF A FACTUAL PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD AT THE HEARING. THE BOARD WILL NOT TOLERATE PERSONAL ATTACKS BY ANYONE ON ANY OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROCEEDINGS. AND ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THE GUIDELINES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING MAY BE ASKED TO LEAVE BY THE CHAIRMAN. FAILURE TO LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING WHEN ASKED TO DO SO IS IN VIOLATION OF WARREN COUNTY CODE 56 DASH FOUR AND CODE OF VIRGINIA, 18.2 DASH 4 4 15, AND IS SUBJECT TO A FINE OF UP TO $2,500 AND A JAIL SENTENCE OF UP TO 12 MONTHS, EITHER OR BOTH. AND, UH, AND I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYONE TO PLEASE USE THE APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN, UH, WHEN YOU'RE IN, UM, UH, UH, ADDRESSING A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. UH, FIRST OF ALL, THAT, UH, THERE MAY BE CHILDREN WATCHING NOW OR IN THE FUTURE. AND IF YOU USE, UH, LANGUAGE THAT IS NOT QUITE APPROPRIATE, PEOPLE MAY NOT, UH, [00:20:02] MAY NOT TEND TO, UH, TO TAKE YOUR COMMENTS SERIOUSLY. SO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND. SO, UM, ZACH, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? UH, YES, SIR. DAVID FOGLE. GOOD EVENING. I AM HERE TO TALK. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, DAVID FOG. I LIVE ON RIVERMONT DRIVE. UM, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT SEVEN 14 RIVERMONT DRIVE. UH, THAT ITEM IS ACTUALLY BEFORE Y'ALL TONIGHT FOR, UH, CUP PUBLIC HEARING. UM, A LOT OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE. UM, I DON'T HAVE FACEBOOK, TWITTER, I DON'T HAVE NONE OF THAT STUFF. UM, AND IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION TODAY OF A LOT OF STUFF POSTED ON FACEBOOK ABOUT SEVEN 14 RIVERMONT DRIVE. I DID SOMETHING THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID, AND A COUPLE OF YOU ALL HAVE DONE. UM, I LIVE EXACTLY, I MEAN, RIGHT BESIDE THE BUILDING. BEEN THERE FOR 20 YEARS, ME AND MY WIFE, OUR THREE DOGS. WE DON'T HAVE NO KIDS. UM, BUT I GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE ATTACHMENT TO THE PROPERTY AS I WAS A VOLUNTEER THERE FOR 25 YEARS. I SERVED AS FIRE CHIEF FOR 15 YEARS AT THAT STATION. SO I KNOW THE BUILDING, I KNOW IT INSIDE OUT. I KNOW WHAT TOOK PLACE THERE, EVERYTHING THERE. SO WHEN THE COUNTY CONDEMNED THE BUILDING, AND THEY SPENT THE 5.6 MILLION TO BUILDING NEW STATION, AND THE BUILDING WAS PUT UP FOR SALE. AND WHEN MR. RUMBERGER BOUGHT IT AND HE STARTED BRINGING ALL THIS EQUIPMENT IN, I'M LIKE, WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? UM, SO I DID WHAT PLANNING AND ZONING DID, AND SOME OF YOU ALL DID. I WALKED MY BUTT ACROSS THERE AND I MET HIM AND I SAID, I'M, I LIVE RIGHT HERE. WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN HERE? AND SO HE KINDLY SHOWED ME THE EQUIPMENT, PROUD OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT HE HAD, AND STARTED TELLING ME HIS VISION FOR THE PROPERTY. UM, OF COURSE I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE WALL AND EVERYTHING AND THE REASON WHY IT WAS CONDEMNED AND ALL THAT STUFF. AND HE SHOWED ME ENGINEER DESIGNS THAT HE HAD PAID, UM, TO HAVE THE BUILDING REPAIRED PENNIES, PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR. UM, SO THAT BUILDING COULD HAVE BEEN REPAIRED FOR A WHOLE LOT LESS THAN $5.6 MILLION. BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY. UM, SO AS TIME WENT ON, I WOULD GO OVER AND TALK TO HIM. WE BEFRIENDED EACH OTHER. HE WOULD SHOW ME PROGRESS. UM, THEY TOTALLY REPAIRED THE BUILDING, HAD AN ENGINEER DESIGN, UH, THE UPSTAIRS, THEY TOTALLY FIXED THE UPSTAIRS. ALL THAT IS JUST IMMACULATE. I SUGGEST THAT ALL OF YOU, ALL YOU NEED TO GO OUT THERE AND SEE IT. UM, THE TRAINING AND EVERYTHING. AND TODAY ON FACEBOOK, WHEN I LOOKED AT FACEBOOK WHEN IT WAS SHOWN TO ME, WE HAVE ALL THESE KEYBOARD WARRIORS THAT THEY WILL POST ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING TO STIR EVERYBODY UP, GET EVERYBODY CONFUSED, GET EVERYBODY SCARED TO DEATH. HE HAS BEEN THERE FOR ROUGHLY 14, 15 MONTHS. NOT ONE SHOT HAS EVER BEEN FIRED. NO CANON EVER BEEN SHOT. NO GUN HAS EVER BEEN FIRED. NO ROUNDS HAVE EVER BEEN SHOT. MEANWHILE, ACROSS THE STREET IN A FAMILY SUBDIVISION, I HEAR ALTA MIKE FIRE THERE EVERY NIGHT. OKAY? AND BELIEVE ME, WITH MY LINE OF WORK, I KNOW WHAT, THANK YOU, SIR. THAT WAS THREE MINUTES. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, NOBODY ELSE HAS SIGNED UP FOR THAT PART, SIR. ALRIGHT, SO IF THERE'S NO, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ON, NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE, UH, ON THE AGENDA ITEMS, THEN WE WILL MOVE TO, [G. Reports — Board Members, County Administrator, County Attorney ] UM, REPORTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS. AND WHO DID WE START WITH LAST TIME? OKAY. HOW ABOUT, HOW ABOUT IF WE START WITH, UH, SUPERVISOR, UM, JOHN? SURE. UM, WELL, UH, I, I DID GO OUT ON FRIDAY TO SEVEN 14, RIVERMONT AND MET, MET THE OWNER AND, UH, TOURED THE PROPERTY AND LEARNED ABOUT IT. UM, I'VE ALSO BEEN GETTING A LOT OF EMAIL ABOUT THIS FROM PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW. UM, SO IT'S, IT'S STILL AN OPEN TOPIC. UM, BUT I, I DO WANT TO LEARN AND, AND HEAR ALL SIDES. UH, SO, UM, AND ADDITIONALLY TO THAT, UH, I THINK IT WAS THURSDAY WE HAD THE RAIL TRAIL, UM, COMMUNITY FORUM HERE ON THURSDAY AFTERNOON LAST WEEK. AND I ATTENDED THAT AS WELL. IT WAS INFORMATIVE. UM, AND THEN MY ONLY OTHER UPDATE IS, UH, I HAD THE PLEASURE AND I ACTUALLY DO MEAN PLEASURE OF SPENDING 48 HOURS AT WARREN MEMORIAL HOSPITAL AS A PATIENT, UM, [00:25:01] ABOUT 10 OR 12 DAYS AGO. AND, UH, THEY EXCEEDED. I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UM, THANK YOU. THEY EXCEEDED MY EXPECTATIONS IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY. UM, DR. BALL, DR. RELIC, UH, DR. DEHY ALL ATTENDED TO ME WITH, UM, JUST INCREDIBLE, UH, COMPASSION AND LISTENING AND, UH, GETTING ME THROUGH A LOT OF ISSUES. I HAD A, A ELECTROLYTE IMBALANCE THAT WAS VERY SERIOUS, AND, UH, I'M THANKFUL I DIDN'T HAVE A SEIZURE. UM, BUT, UH, THEY, AND THE, UH, NURSING STAFF THERE TOOK EXCELLENT CARE OF ME FOR 48 HOURS. AND, UM, UH, I WAS REALLY PLEASED WITH THE SERVICE I'VE RECEIVED THERE. AND, UH, AND I DON'T EVEN THINK THEY HELD IT AGAINST ME IF THEY KNEW AT ALL THAT I WAS A SUPERVISOR. UH, SO TREATED JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. AND I WANNA THANK VALLEY HEALTH, DR. JAMISON. THANK YOU. UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON A PRESENTATION FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT I'M GONNA BE PRESENTING AT NEXT WEEK'S WORK SESSION NEXT TUESDAY. I MET WITH TWO FOUNDERS OF A NEW HOMESTEADERS GROUP IN WARREN COUNTY, UM, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, SOME OF THE GOALS THEY HAVE. AND, UH, THEIR AGRICULTURAL FOCUS IS VERY WELL INTEGRATED WITH, UH, WITH THE SORT OF THE CHARACTER OF THE COUNTY AND THE NATURE OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO LEARNING THEIR, UH, GOALS AND, AND SEEING IF WE CAN, UM, HELP WITH THAT. ALSO, ATTENDED THE RAILS TO TRAILS COMMUNITY MEETING. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD TURNOUT. PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW, A HUNDRED PLUS PEOPLE CAME TO THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THE VDOT STUDY IS GONNA CONTINUE ON INTO A SECOND PHASE WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GET A LITTLE MORE DETAILED ABOUT THEIR, THE COSTS AND THINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE REQUIRED TO, TO KEEP TRAILS, TO KEEP RAILS. THEY HAVE TO STUDY THE OPTION TO KEEP RAILS IN THE PICTURE. UM, UM, I'M GONNA SPEND THE REST OF MY TIME ADDRESSING, UH, SOME THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN POSED BY CONSTITUENT ABOUT MY ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES IN THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. UH, MRS. MRS. COLORS, UM, ADDRESSED THESE QUESTIONS, I BELIEVE LAST TIME. I THINK THEY'RE GOOD AND FAIR QUESTIONS. UM, THEY WERE PROCEEDED, THE QUESTIONS PRECEDED AN EMAIL THAT WAS LARGELY CRITICAL OF MY POLICY INITIATIVES TO REALIGN THE PUBLIC GOVERNANCE OF THE LIBRARY WITH THE OVERWHELMINGLY PUBLIC FUNDING IT RECEIVES. UH, SO I WANT TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS WHICH I THINK ARE, ARE, ARE FAIR, AND ADD SOME CONTEXT THAT I THINK IS RELEVANT AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. I SERVE AS A STEWARD OF PUBLIC RESOURCES, A REPRESENTATIVE OF MY CONSTITUENTS INTERESTS, AND A GUARANTOR OF TRANSPARENT ACCOUNTABLE GOVERNANCE. I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING THAT PUBLIC FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY TO DELIVER NECESSARY SERVICES IN OUR COMMUNITY TO DIRECTLY ANSWER THE QUESTIONS POSED. WHY AM I ON THIS BOARD? I SERVE ON THIS BOARD TO ENSURE RESPONSIBLE GOVERNANCE AND FISCAL ACCOUNTABILITY. WHO DO I REPRESENT AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL WHO RECEIVE 69% OF THE VOTE IN MY ELECTION? I REPRESENT ALL CONSTITUENTS IN MATTERS OF RIGHTS AND FAIR GOVERNANCE, WHILE REMAINING TRUE TO THE POLICY DECISIONS THAT I PUBLISHED WITH MY CAMPAIGN. AM I WORKING FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY? I AM COMMITTED TO IMPROVING OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH TRANSPARENT, MERIT-BASED DECISION MAKING AND THE SUPPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I AM COMMITTED TO BEING A GOOD AM I COMMITTED TO BEING A GOOD STEWARD OF TAX MONEY. I AM ABSOLUTELY COMMITTED TO BEING A GOOD STEWARD OF TAXPAYER MONEY, WHICH INCLUDES ENSURING COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT PROCESSES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. AM I GOING TO LEAVE THE COUNTY IN BETTER SHAPE THAN WHEN I STARTED? YES. I AIM TO LEAVE THE COUNTY IN BETTER SHAPE THAN I FOUND IT WITH GOVERNANCE STRUCTURES THAT PRIORITIZE PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY OVER POLITICAL FAVORITISM. SO THE PATRON AND SYSTEM OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT IS LEFT IN THE DUSTBIN OF HISTORY. I WANNA MAKE A DISTINCTION ABOUT REPRESENTATION. THE DISTINCTION ABOUT REPRESENTATION IS IMPORTANT. WHILE I HAVE A MANDATE TO PURSUE THE APPROACH TO GOVERNANCE POLICIES THAT 69% OF VOTERS FROM MY DISTRICT HAVE A RIGHT TO EXPECT FROM ME, MY RESPONSIBILITY TO UPHOLD FAIR PROCESSES AND THE RIGHTS OF ALL CITIZENS EXTEND TO EVERYONE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY VOTED FOR ME. GOOD GOVERNANCE REQUIRES BOTH DEMOCRATIC RESPONSIVENESS TO MAJORITY WILL AND PRINCIPLE PROTECTION OF MINORITY RIGHTS. NO POLICY DECISION OF MINE CAN BE ASSOCIATED WITH ANY ACTUAL OR POSS PROBABLE INFRINGEMENT OF RIGHTS BASED ON FACTS. IT MUST BE OBVIOUS THAT NO ELECTED LEADER CAN REPRESENT EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL IN MATTERS OF POLICY UNLESS EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL VOTED FOR THEM. MY MOTIVATION FOR SEEKING ELECTION TO THE BOARD WAS TO HELP OUR COUNTY RETURN THE PAGE ON THE EDA SCANDAL ERA, A PERIOD WHEN COUNTY GOVERNMENT IS KNOWN TO HAVE OPERATED LARGELY THROUGH LONGSTANDING RELATIONSHIP NETWORKS WITH SUPERVISORS WHO WERE ALSO DEVELOPERS, LANDOWNERS, [00:30:01] ATTORNEYS, AND OTHERS IN PARTNERSHIPS THAT MANAGED TO THRIVE THROUGH COUNTY DECISIONS. A TIME WHEN WHO YOU KNEW MATTERED MORE THAN HOW MUCH SENSE THINGS MADE OR WHETHER IT WAS EVEN LEGAL, THAT APPROACH DIDN'T END WELL. AND WERE STILL PAYING THE PRICE VESTIGES OF THAT SYSTEM WITH US. WHAT THE COUNTY HAS DONE BY INSTITUTING A PUBLIC LIBRARY BOARD, WHICH NEARLY EVERY COUNTY IN THE STATE AND THE COUNTRY HAS, IS ALIGN PUBLIC FINANCING OF FAULT LIBRARY SERVICES WITH PUBLIC GOVERNANCE. THIS DOES NOT IN ANY WAY PREVENT SAMUELS FROM PROVIDING LIBRARY SERVICES TO THE COUNTY. HOWEVER, IT DOES MEAN THAT THEY NEED TO PARTICIPATE IN A FAIR, TRANSPARENT AND COMPETITIVE PUBLIC PROCUREMENT PROCESS TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEIR COSTS RELATIVE TO SERVICES ARE THE BEST. THEY SEEM ABLE AND CONFIDENT. SO I CANNOT SEE WHY THEY WOULD NOT DO THIS TO ACCEPT THEM FROM THIS AS TO ACCEPT A PRIVATE MONOPOLY CONTROL OF PUBLIC SERVICES PAID FOR WITH PUBLIC FUNDS. IF YOU PREFER THAT OPTION BASED ON TRADITION OR ESTABLISHED RELATIONSHIPS, THAT IS OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE'S PREROGATIVE. HOWEVER, I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS APPROPRIATE OR IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TAX COUNTY TAXPAYER LARGE TO NOT HAVE A COMPETITIVE TRANSPARENT PROCESS. THERE IS A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS ISSUED AND SAMUEL SHOULD SUBMIT TO WIN THE CONTRACT BY DEMONSTRATING THAT THEY HAVE THE BEST SERVICES PER DOLLAR. THAT'S THE NORMAL PUBLIC PROCUREMENT PROCESS FOR OUTSOURCED GOODS AND SERVICES. AND WARREN COUNTY TAXPAYERS DESERVE NO LESS. AND I'LL SAY THAT THIS CONSTITUENT, I, I SHARED MY THOUGHTS WITH HIM AND HE, UM, REPLIED BACK POLITELY AND THERE'S A, A DIALOGUE GOING ON AND I'M, I'M, UM, GRATIFIED BY THAT. AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO DISAGREE ABOUT POLICY, BUT, BUT NOT, UM, DEVOLVE INTO, YOU KNOW, REALLY WILD ACCUSATIONS OF, OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON HERE AND EXAGGERATIONS. SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO, TO SHARE THAT. AND, UH, THAT'S MY REPORT. THANK YOU, MS. COOK. UH, YES. UM, THIS IS THE RESULT FROM WHAT THE TREASURER REPORT THAT I JUST READ, THAT, UM, WE HAD A FINANCIAL DEPARTMENT AND TREASURER MEETING TO DISCUSS TRANSFERRING OF THESE, UH, COUNTY FUNDS FROM THE VIRGINIA INVESTMENT POOL TRUST FUND. UM, SO WE CAN START SO WE AS A COUNTY CAN GET A BETTER RETURN ON OUR IN INVEST INVESTMENT OF OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS. UM, THAT'S REALLY GONNA HELP US IN OUR CASH FLOW. UM, AND SO I'M REALLY, UM, HAPPY THAT WE ARE COMING TOGETHER. IT'S BABY STEPS WHERE WE'RE GETTING THERE, BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE NEED OUR CASH FLOW. AND THEN JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT OUR, OUR REVENUE VERSUS OUR EXPENDITURES FOR JUST THIS MONTH ALONE. SO OUR CASHFLOW, WHAT WE BROUGHT IN WAS $1,925,787, AND OUR EXPENDITURES JUST FOR THE MONTH WAS, YOU KNOW, $5.1 MILLION. SO THERE'S THAT LITTLE GAP THERE. NOT TO SAY WE'RE NOT PAYING OUR BILLS, WE ARE PAYING OUR BILLS BECAUSE OF THE CASH FLOW AND HOW THINGS FLUCTUATED. AND OF COURSE I HAD A, UM, I DEMONSTRATED THIS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WITH MY LITTLE BARK LIKE GRAPH AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO, UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THERE AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, UM, UH, PUT OUR ARMS SO WE CAN START BEING MORE EFFICIENT WITH OUR, UM, OUR FUNDING. UM, AND I DO ALSO ACCEPTED THE INVITATION TO, UH, VISIT THE NEW OWNER AT THE OVER MOUNT STATION AS WELL. I WAS ABLE TO, UH, TOUR THIS, THOSE, THE SOCIAL HALL LOOKED AT THE, UM, THE, THE, WHAT I CALLED . I CALLED IT, UH, TINY HOMES ON WHEELS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN I HEAR RV I WAS THINKING LIKE MY RV, BUT YOU KNOW, I WAS, IT, I WAS SURPRISED. SO ANYWAY, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO REPORT. WELL, THANK YOU. SO IT'S, IT'S CLOSE TO SEVEN 30, UM, IN MATTER OF FACT IT'S JUST A MINUTE AWAY. SO, UH, WE WILL CATCH MS. CALLERS AND MYSELF, UH, AND DR. DALEY AND POSSIBLY AND POSSIBLY EVEN THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IF HE EVER HAS ANYTHING TO SAY. SO , SO THE, UM, UH, WE JUST HAVE ABOUT, UH, 30 SECONDS. CAN WE GO AHEAD AND START JUST A HALF A MINUTE EARLY? IT'S SEVEN 30 THERE, BUT ACCORDING TO MY, UH, MY PHONE, IT'S STILL SEVEN TWENTY NINE BY THE TIME YOU READ IT. YEAH, IT'S SEVEN 30 MR. ALRIGHT, SO, UM, FIRST [00:35:01] ON THE AGENDA IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR, UH, A SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL WITH MR. PAUL BELL. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL FOR THE PROPERTY HE PURCHASED IN MAY OF 2023. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 5 51 JONATHAN ROAD IN LINDEN AND IS IDENT IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 22 B BLOCK U AS LOT NINE A. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL ONE AND IS LOCATED IN THE HAPPY CREEK MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT. THE DWELLING WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1981 AND THERE IS CURRENTLY ONE ACTIVE ZONING VIOLATION FOR THE PROPERTY, FOR THE ADVERTISEMENT AND OPERATION OF A SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL WITHOUT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT DATED FOR NOVEMBER 1ST, 2024. THERE IS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT OPERATION PERMIT APPROVING A MAXIMUM OF SIX OCCUPANTS FOR THE THREE BEDROOM DWELLING. NO COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED FROM APPLE MOUNTAIN LAKE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION. WHEN WE REACHED OUT TO THEM. THE DWELLING MEETS THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT OF 100 FEET TO ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, THE CLOSEST BEING 122 FEET TO THE EAST. THE PLANNING, COMMISSION AND PLANNING STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS BE ADDED TO THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO APPROVE IT. NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL WARN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT WARN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND THE VIRGINIA STATEWIDE FIRE PREVENTION CODE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS. NUMBER TWO, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS SHALL NOT EXCEED THE SYSTEM CAPACITY IS DETERMINED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT PERMIT FOR WARREN COUNTY CODE SUBSECTION 180 DASH 56.4. THE CERTIFICATE OF ZONING SHALL ONLY BE ISSUED WITH APPROVED HEALTH DEPARTMENT RECORDS. NUMBER THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE WELL WATERED TESTED ANNUALLY FOR ECOLINE COLIFORM BACTERIA, AND A COPY OF THOSE RESULTS SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING AND HEALTH DEPARTMENTS. NUMBER FOUR, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE SEPTIC SYSTEM SERVICE EVERY FIVE YEARS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. A COPY OF THE SERVICE INVOICE IS TO BE PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. AND NUMBER FIVE, THE APPLICANT SHALL KEEP AND MAINTAIN AN E 9 1 1 ADDRESS SIGN AT THE END OF THE DRIVEWAY, CLEARLY VISIBLE FROM THE ROAD AND ILLUMINATE THE SIGN WITH A SOLAR POWERED LIGHT. THE SIGN SHALL MEET REQUIREMENTS OF CODE SUBSECTION 80 DASH SIX FOR SIZE AND LOCATION OF STREET ADDRESS NUMBERS. THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED AND I'M NOT, THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US BOARD MEMBERS, UH, MS. WALL, DID YOU SAY THERE WERE NO NEIGHBORS THAT WERE, UH, 'CAUSE THERE'S A LETTER HERE THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, NO, I STATED THAT IT MEETS THE, UM, 100 FOOT SETBACK. THE CLOSEST BEING 122 FEET TO THE EAST. WE DIDN'T RECEIVE COMMENTS FROM APPLE MOUNTAIN. OH, OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. UH, APPLE MOUNTAIN LAKE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION, THE POA WHEN WE REACHED OUT TO THEM, THEY TYPICALLY DON'T. WELL, I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR THE, UH, FOR, FOR YOU AND, AND POTENTIALLY FOR THE, THE OWNER. SO YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS A VIOLATION BACK IN NOVEMBER, CORRECT, SIR. AND THAT WAS FOR, UH, HAVING A SHORT TERM RENTAL WITHOUT A CUP? CORRECT, SIR. OKAY. AND AS SOON AS WE REACHED OUT TO THEM WITH THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION, THEY IMMEDIATELY RESPONDED AND, UM, APPLIED FOR THE CUP AND THUS HERE WE ARE. WHAT WAS THIS? BECAUSE THEY, THEY JUST DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY HAD TO DO THAT. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY KNEW. OKAY. ALRIGHT. DOES THE OWNER WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? NO, I JUST, UH, APPRECIATE YOUR GUYS TIME AND CONTINUE OPERATING THIS. SO YOU APPROVE IT. HAVE YOU ADDRESSED THE, THE CONCERNS YOUR NEIGHBOR HAS ABOUT PEOPLE COMING UP HIS DRIVEWAY? YES, I'VE CHANGED THE CAN CAN YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM PLEASE AND, AND GIVE US YOUR NAME? YES. UH, MY NAME IS PAUL BELL. UM, THE OWNER ADJACENT TO ME HAD CONCERNS ABOUT PEOPLE COMING UP TO THEIR DRIVEWAY. UH, I PUT LARGER SIGN NUMBERS ON THE MAILBOX, UM, AND THEN ALSO HAD MORE CLEAR INSTRUCTIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO WERE COMING, UH, THROUGH THE APPLICATION SO THAT THEY COULD SEE WHAT THE, UH, WHAT THE DRIVEWAY IS, THE DRIVEWAY'S ALL RIGHT. NEXT TO EACH OTHER. SO IT'S, IT'S QUITE CONFUSING. AND THEN I, AFTER SPEAKING WITH MS. WALL, UM, GOING TO PUT THE NEW SIGN WITH THE, THE LIGHT ON IT TOO. YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT. IS THAT YOUR I'VE JUST PURCHASED IT FROM LOWE'S, SO, YEAH. ON MY WAY BACK. AND SO, DID YOUR NEIGHBOR FEEL BETTER ABOUT THE SITUATION? I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM. OKAY. THEY DIDN'T COMMUNICATE WITH ME DIRECTLY, SO. OKAY. I, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY. NO OTHER QUESTIONS. SO, DO I HAVE A, UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION HEARING? OH, I'M SORRY. UH, DO WE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP? NO, SIR. DOES ANYBODY IN THE, UH, AUDIENCE WISH TO, UH, TO SPEAK SECOND CALL? THIRD CALL. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. SO DO I NOW DO I HAVE A MOTION? [00:40:01] I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST BY PAUL BELL FOR A SHORT TERM TOUR RENTAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED. RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF. SECOND. I'LL SECOND IT. ROLL CALL PLEASE. MRS. COLORS. MR. STAN MEYER. AYE. MR. CHAIRMAN? AYE. DR. JAMON? AYE. MRS. COOK? AYE. NEXT IS THE, UM, NEXT IS THE, UH, SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL FOR, UH, ELIZABETH BAXTER. AND, UM, MR. IS IT PAKE? PRAKASH. PRAKASH. OKAY. AND HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE YOUR FIRST NAME? RAB. RAB. OKAY. THANK YOU. I I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY SUBARU, BUT I, I KNEW THAT THAT WAS NOT RIGHT. . ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT TERM TO RENTAL FOR THE PROPERTY THEY PURCHASED IN DECEMBER OF 2024. THE LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER, TAMMY ROBERTS, WILL ASSIST WITH MAINTENANCE AND CLEANING. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1 68 RILEY COURT AND IS IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 15 EAST SECTION FOUR, BLOCK FOUR AS LOT 74 A. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL ONE AND IS LOCATED IN THE SHENANDOAH MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT. THERE ARE NO RECORDS OF ANY ACTIVE ZONING VIOLATIONS FOR THIS PROPERTY. THERE IS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT OPERATION PERMIT APPROVING A MAXIMUM OF EIGHT OCCUPANTS FOR THE FOUR BEDROOM DWELLING. A REQUEST FOR COMMENTS WAS SUBMITTED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF SHENANDOAH FARMS, BUT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS BACK AT THIS TIME. THE DWELLING MEETS THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT OF A HUNDRED FEET TO ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILIES, UH, DWELLINGS. THE CLOSEST BEING 100.4 FEET TO THE WEST. PLANNING, COMMISSION AND PLANNING STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS BE ADDED TO THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO APPROVE THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. NUMBER ONE, APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS IN VIRGINIA STATEWIDE FIRE PREVENTION CODE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS. NUMBER TWO, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS SHALL NOT EXCEED THE SYSTEM CAPACITY IS DETERMINED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR WARREN COUNTY CODE SUBSECTION 180 DASH 56.4 B. THE CERTIFICATE OF ZONING SHALL ONLY BE ISSUED WITH APPROVED HEALTH DEPARTMENT RECORDS. NUMBER THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE WELL WATER TESTED ANNUALLY FOR E COLI AND COLIFORM BACTERIA, AND A COPY OF THOSE RESULTS SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING AND HEALTH DEPARTMENT. AND NUMBER FOUR, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE SEPTIC SYSTEM SERVICED EVERY FIVE YEARS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. A COPY OF THE SERVICE INVOICE IS TO BE PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US, DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE, UH, BOARD MEMBERS? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MS. WALL. UM, IS THIS, IS THIS A NEW CONSTRUCTION HOME? CORRECT? YES. OKAY. OKAY. DO THEY HAVE THEIR OCCUPANCY PERMIT NOW? YES, SIR. THEY DO. OKAY. I WAS LOOKING IN THE, THEY FINISHED AT THE END OF 2024. OKAY. I WAS LOOKING IN THE GIS AND THE, UH, THE NEWEST ASSESSMENTS AND COULDN'T FIND ANY INDICATIONS. YES, SIR. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, AS OF LATE, WE'VE BEEN, UM, REQUESTING ANY APPLICANTS, UH, TO, BEFORE THEY APPLY, IF THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF CONSTRUCTING, TO HOPEFULLY HAVE THEIR CO OR BE VERY CLOSE TO OBTAINING THAT BEFORE IT ARRIVES IN FRONT OF YOU ALL. OKAY. CERTAINLY. BUT EVEN MOREOVER, IN FRONT OF PLANNING COMMISSION. THANK YOU. UM, ALSO, YOU SAID THAT SHENANDOAH FARMS DID NOT REPLY WITH ANY COMMENTS. THEY DID NOT. THAT'S UNUSUAL FOR THEM. SO I'M JUST WONDERING HOW, HOW LONG AGO DID YOU ASK? UM, SO OUR OFFICE MANAGER SUBMITTED THE REQUEST FOR THE COMMENTS ON JANUARY 14TH. OKAY. AND WE NEVER, AND WE SEND THOSE VIA EMAIL AS WELL AS VIA MAIL, AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . SO I, I'M JUST CURIOUS, HOW, HOW MANY NEW CONSTRUCTION ARE YOU SEEING THAT, UH, UH, AND JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, RATIO OF MAYBE WHAT, UH, ONE TO 10 THAT, UH, UH, THAT ARE COMING ACROSS FOUR SHORT-TERM RENTALS. NOT NEARLY AS MANY AS ALREADY EXISTING, UM, UP ON DONNA COURT. THOSE WERE ALL CONSECUTIVELY NEW. UM, BUT BECAUSE OF THEIR LOCATION, IT JUST, THEY, IT'S NOT SUITED FOR FAMILIES WITH THEIR DROP OFF, UM, IN THE, IN THE BACKYARD. SO THEREFORE, A WHILE IT DID SEEM LIKE IT WAS A LOT OF NEW CONSTRUCTION, BUT I WOULD SAY A LOT OF IT IS, UH, DERELICT PROPERTIES THAT PEOPLE ARE PURCHASING, UPDATING, UM, RENOVATING AND BRINGING. OKAY. ALRIGHT. BRINGING FORWARD TWO O'CLOCK FOR SHORT TIME. ALRIGHT. IS THE, UH, PROPERTY OR, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UH, SPEAK? UH, I DON'T IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OTHERWISE. NO, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. WOULD, UH, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK [00:45:01] GOING TWICE, THREE TIMES PUBLIC? UH, HEARING IS NOW CLOSED ON THIS. OH, NO ONE SIGNED UP? NO, NO ONE SIGNED UP. OKAY. GOOD. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE IT IF I CAN FIND THE RIGHT PAGE. UM, OH, JUST A MINUTE, . YOU'RE WELCOME. YEAH. THANK YOU. UM, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST OF ELIZABETH BAXTER AND, UH, RAB PRAKASH FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL TOUR, TOURIST RENTAL WITH THE CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF. I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND ROLL CALL. MRS. COOK. AYE. DR. JAMISON? AYE. MR. CHAIRMAN? AYE. MR. STAN MEYER. AYE MRS. SCHOLARS? AYE. OKAY, NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS THE ORDINANCE FOR ROLLBACK TAXES. SO THIS IS A BOARD INITIATIVE, SO THERE'S NO STAFF REPORT, SIR. OKAY. DO I HAVE ANY, UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? I'D JUST LIKE TO, TO REMIND EVERYBODY WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. THERE'S A, UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, IS ESSENTIALLY MAKING IT POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO REZONE AGRICULTURAL LAND INTO COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL LAND AND NOT HAVE TO FACE THE ROLLBACK TAXES JUST BECAUSE THE LAND WAS REZONED, BUT RATHER THE ROLLBACK TAXES WOULD BE INSTITUTED WHEN THE LAND USE ACTUALLY CHANGES. THIS IS A, A, UH, THIS, WHEN WE HAD THIS BEFORE OUR WORKING SESSION PRIOR TO THIS HEARING, THE, THE DISCUSSION CENTERED AROUND THE FACT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN FACILITATE THE MOVEMENT THROUGH THIS ZONING PROCESS, UH, TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY. UH, WHEN OWNERS HAVE PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE GONNA GET A TON OF ROLLBACK TAXES ARE DUE AND THAT WILL JUST SIMPLY SIT ON IT AND NOT WANT TO PAY THOSE TAXES. AND THAT COULD BE, UH, THEY MAY HAVE TO PAY THOSE, THOSE TAXES YEARS AHEAD OF AN ACTUAL CHANGE OF USE. SO, UH, THIS IS A MATTER OF FACILITATING OUR COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL TAX BASE BY GETTING IT MOVING, BASICALLY GREASING THE SKIDS, SO TO SPEAK. ALRIGHT, WELL, WELL THANK YOU. SO DO I HAVE ANY DISCUSSION BESIDES DR. JAMESON? NO. OKAY. IS THERE, UM, UH, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP? NO, SIR. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK GOING TWICE? PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. DO UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT THE ORDINANCE AMENDING WARREN COUNTY CODE ONE 60 DASH 23 AND ENACTING ONE 60 DASH 23.1 REGARDING ROLLBACK TAXES. SECOND. SECOND ROLL CALL MRS. COLORS. AYE. UH, MR. STEINMEYER? AYE. MR. CHAIRMAN? AYE. DR. JAMON? AYE. MRS. COOK? AYE. OKAY. SO DO WE GO BACK TO THE, UM, TO, TO THE GENERAL COM TO THE, TO THE COMMENTS NOW? OKAY. OR, OR DID WE OR DID WE GO TO THE, UH, NEW BUSINESS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? BOARD. BOARD REPORTS? YEAH. YEAH, THE BOARD REPORTS. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. SO MS. CALLERS. ALL RIGHT. UH, FOR MY REPORT ON APRIL 5TH, I ATTENDED THE BLUEBELL FESTIVAL AT THE ANDY GUEST CHANDLE RIVER STATE PARK. UM, IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN, UH, I THINK EACH YEAR IT GROWS AND, UH, WAS A VERY NICE EVENT. UH, GOOD TIME AROUND THE, UH, AROUND THE RIVER. APRIL 7TH, I MET WITH MS. MEADOWS AND WE HAD, UM, A DISCUSSION ON TOURISM. AND THEN THAT EVENING I ATTENDED THE FIRST MEETING OF THE WARREN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE POWELL PROGRAM, WHICH POWELL STANDS FOR POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE. IT'S A PROGRAM THEY'RE, UM, GETTING OFF THE, UM, FOR, TO WORK WITH CHILDREN. AND, UM, CERTAINLY I THINK THAT THAT IS A GREAT PROGRAM. UH, WE'RE BOUNCING AROUND IDEAS OF CAMPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT, UM, WE CAN HELP SUPPORT. SO IF [00:50:01] YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN THAT, WE NEED PLENTY OF VOLUNTEERS TO WORK WITH THE CHILDREN. UH, APRIL 10TH, WE HAD OUR TOURISM COMMITTEE MEETING AND WE CONTINUE TO, UM, LAY A FOUNDATION OF IDEAS AND SO FORTH SO THAT WHEN WE HIRE THE DIRECTOR, HE'S GOT, HE OR SHE HAS A GOOD SOLID GROUP OF PEOPLE BEHIND THEM AND IDEAS TO, UM, TO WORK ON. THAT AFTERNOON, WE HAD BUILDING COMMITTEE MEETING AND CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THE, UM, THE EVER. UM, IT'S JUST LIKE THE COUNTY OWNS MULTIPLE BUILDINGS AND MULTIPLE PROBLEMS. JUST LIKE OUR HOUSES FIX ONE THING YOU HAVE FINE, YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER THING TO FIX. SO ONE OF THOSE BEING, UM, PUT ON THE AGENDA, THE EVER, UM, CONSTANT UPKEEP OF A VERY OLD BUILDING AND SEPTIC LINES, WATER LINES AND ALL THAT. SO ATTENDED THE LATER THAT EVENING, ATTENDED THE VDOT RAILS TO TRAIL. UM, I CAME IN EARLY AND GOT OUT EARLY, SO, UM, I DIDN'T SEE YOU GUYS, BUT, UM, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A VERY INFORMATIVE MEETING. I HOPE IT STAYS RAILS AND TRAILS. I'M NOT A PROPONENT OF RAILS AND TRAILS, SO THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS ON THAT. APRIL 12TH, 2025, I ATTENDED THE GIRLS SOFTBALL OPENING AND IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO, TO LOOK OUT AND SEE. I THINK THEY START AT THREE AND FOUR AND THEY GO UP TO SENIORS. UM, GOOD GROUP OF OF PEOPLE WORKING WITH THOSE GIRLS AND THEY NEED MORE SOFTBALL FIELDS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND, AND GET FOR THAT. I THINK THEY'VE GOT TWO FIELDS TO WORK OFF OF. AND THERE'S ABOUT 200 GIRLS TO PLAY ON ALL THAT. APRIL 14TH I ATTENDED THE BROWNTOWN MEETING. UM, THEY'RE HAVING THEIR RED BUD FESTIVAL. I THINK IT'S GONNA BE RED BUD LESS FESTIVAL THIS YEAR, 'CAUSE THE TREES CAME OUT SO EARLY. BUT THAT'S, UM, APRIL 26TH. AND IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY COOL TO GO UP THERE. THEY, UM, THE CREEK'S UP. SO I THINK THE DUCK RACE WILL RUN PRETTY QUICK THIS YEAR. UM, AND, UH, I DO WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THE WARREN COUNTY 9 1 1 DISPATCHERS SINCE THIS IS, UM, THEIR RECOGNITION WEEK. AND IT'S A GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE IN THERE. UM, FAIRLY YOUNG GROUP OF PEOPLE AND THEY, I THINK THEY DO AN AWESOME JOB FOR, UM, THE STRESS THAT THEY'RE UNDER. IT'S ALSO ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS WEEK. AND, UM, I APPRECIATE ALL THAT THEY DO AS WELL. THAT'S ANOTHER CHALLENGING JOB. UM, I THINK I CAN HANDLE PROBABLY ALL OF IT, BUT DEALING WITH SNAKES, I'D BE OUT ON THAT ONE. UM, ASSISTANT CHIEF TICO WANTED ME TO ANNOUNCE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A FIREWISE SEMINAR, UH, WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY MAY 1ST UP AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING FROM SIX 30 TO EIGHT 30 AT NIGHT. IT'S A FREE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY THERE. THE DISCUSSION IS GONNA BE ON WILDFIRES AND HOW TO PREPARE FOR THEM AND PROTECT YOUR HOUSE. SO, UM, DO THEY NEED TO SIGN UP? IS THERE A LIMITED, OKAY, THAT'S, UM, ON YOUR ONLINE FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT, OR THEY CAN CONTACT ALL, EITHER ONE, LOOK ON ONLINE, ON THEIR WEBSITE OR, UM, CALL INTO THEIR OFFICE AND THEY CAN GET YOU SIGNED UP FOR THAT. THE OTHER THING, SINCE IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY MR. FOGLE AND, UM, DR. JAMESON AS WELL, THE SOCIAL MEDIA AND FACEBOOK THAT CAN, THAT CAN BE A BLESSING AND A CURSE. AND RECENTLY IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION, INCOMPLETE INFORMATION. UM, I KNOW YOU BROUGHT UP CONCERNS LAST WEEK ABOUT COMMENTS I MADE. I THINK THEY WERE IN FEBRUARY ABOUT THE COST OF LEGAL FEES AND STAFF TIME AND STUFF. AND I WAS GOING ON ESTIMATES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS GIVEN, AND I THOUGHT I MADE THAT PRETTY PLAIN. AND NOW IT'S BEING PUSHED OUT THAT I SAID THE COUNTY HAS SPENT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND THAT IS NOT WHAT I SAID. I SAID IF WE HIRED WITH WHAT THE ESTIMATES WERE THAT I ASKED FOR, FOR LEGAL FEES AND STAFF, AND THEN ADDING IN THE ESTIMATE FOR IF WE HIRED A COMMUNICATION, WE'D BE CLOSE TO SPENDING A HUNDRED THOUSAND. THAT DIDN'T SAY WE HAD SPENT IT, BUT THERE AGAIN, THAT WAS PUSHED OUT. AND THEN THE VIDEO THAT WAS POSTED OF THE CONVERSATION HERE LAST WEEK WAS CUT OFF BEFORE I JUSTIFIED MY END OF THAT CONVERSATION. SO IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT IT OUT THERE, PUT IT OUT THERE ACCURATELY AND PUT THE WHOLE THING OUT THERE BECAUSE LIKE MR. FOCAL SAID, YOU PUT IT OUT AND IT'S INACCURATE, ALL IT DOES IS INCITE PEOPLE TO [00:55:01] GET ALL UPSET AND GO CRAZY OVER STUFF. IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT I'VE SAID OR WHAT I'M DOING, MY PHONE NUMBER'S OUT FOR EVERYBODY AND I WILL TAKE CALLS, I TAKE EMAILS, I TRY TO ANSWER EVERYTHING. I'M VERY ACCESSIBLE AND I, I DON'T AIM TO PUT OUT ANYTHING THAT'S INACCURATE. IF I PUT IT OUT INACCURATE, I WILL PULL IT BACK AND SAY I WAS WRONG. UM, BUT I THINK THE BEST WAY TO GET YOUR ACCURATE INFORMATION IS TO GO TO THE SOURCE INSTEAD OF GOING TO FACEBOOK. THAT IS JUST A DRAMA CENTER. AND I PERSONALLY AM NOT GOING TO ENGAGE ON ANYTHING ON FACEBOOK, BUT I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH ANYBODY THAT I WILL MAKE TIME FOR THAT. SO PLEASE, UM, YOU KNOW, DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO EVERYTHING YOU SEE ON FACEBOOK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. CALLERS. I JUST REMEMBER THAT OLD COMMERCIAL ON TV ABOUT, UH, IF IT'S, IF IT'S ON THE INTERNET, IT'S TRUE . AND, UH, I'VE COME TO, TO REALIZE THAT ABOUT 90% OF WHAT I SEE ON THE INTERNET, I REALLY HAVE TO, TO WEIGH WITH A, UH, A GRAIN OF SALT, YOU KNOW, SO THE, UH, SO YOU'VE GOT A VERY GOOD POINT THERE, MS. CALLERS. I APPRECIATE THAT. SO THE, UH, MINE'S GONNA BE RATHER SHORT. UH, LAST WEEK, THE, UH, 8TH OF APRIL, I MET WITH, UH, ONE OF THE BANK OFFICIALS THAT WE DO BUSINESS WITH, UH, FOR SOME, SOME, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE THINGS. UH, THE 9TH OF APRIL, UH, I WAS WITH, UH, UH, MS. UM, UH, COOK ON THE, UH, FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE. AND, UH, AND I AM VERY PLEASED WITH THE WAY THAT THINGS ARE GOING WITH, UH, WITH THE TREASURER. AND THEN, UH, THE 10TH OF APRIL, I WAS, UH, OVER AT THE, UH, WINCHESTER AIRPORT. UM, I'M THE, UM, UH, ONE OF THE, UH, OR, UM, ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES FOR WARREN COUNTY, UH, FOR THE, UH, FOR THE WINCHESTER REGIONAL AIRPORT. AND, UH, WE ARE PART OF THAT SYSTEM. SO THEY, THEY DID ANNOUNCE THAT THEY'VE GOT A, UM, AN AIR SHOW COMING UP, UH, IN, UM, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE TOWARDS THE END OF THIS MONTH. WE'VE GOT A WINGS AND WHEELS AND, UH, THAT IS GONNA BE LATER ON IN THE YEAR. NOW IT'S NOT QUITE AN AIR SHOW, BUT THEY ARE LOOKING AT, UH, PUTTING TOGETHER, UH, SOMETHING AKIN TO AN AIR SHOW IN THE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE. SO THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT, DR. DALEY. THANK YOU, SIR. WOULD REMIND THE BOARD THAT THE CHAIR IS CALLED A SPECIAL MEETING FOR SIX 30 ON APRIL 29TH. AND THAT WILL BE, UH, ALL THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT YOU AUTHORIZED TONIGHT. SO IT'LL BE THE PUBLIC HEARING EXTRAVAGANZA. I'LL REMIND YOU THAT THE LIAISON MEETING IS HERE ON THURSDAY AT SIX O'CLOCK AND WE WILL BE WELCOMING JOE PIL PETTY BACK TO THE BUILDING AS THIS WILL BE HIS FIRST MEETING AS THE TOWN MANAGER. AND, UH, REMIND YOU THAT WE HAVE A MEETING WITH SCHOOL BOARD FINANCE NEXT MONDAY, THE 21ST AT FOUR O'CLOCK. IT IS A PUBLIC MEETING SO ANYBODY CAN ATTEND. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR. AND COUNCILLOR HAM. I HAVE A COMMENT, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY EASTER . FANTASTIC, THANK YOU. [H. Appropriations and Transfers ] SO NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS HAVE NO COMMENTS. DO I HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? NO. NO? OKAY. NO COMMENTS, NO QUESTIONS. SO DO I HAVE A, UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ROLL CALL. MRS. COOK. AYE. DR. JAMES? AYE. MR. CHAIRMAN? AYE. MR. STAN MEYER. AYE. MRS. ERS? AYE. [I. Approval of Accounts ] OKAY. THE NEXT ONE IS THE APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS I MOVE TO, UH, APPROVE AS PRESENTED. WELL, DO I HAVE ANY, UH, [01:00:01] DO I HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY DISCUSSION? NO. OKAY. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ACCOUNT AS PRESENTED. ALRIGHT, SECOND ROLL CALL, UH, MRS. COLORS? AYE. MR. STEINMEYER? AYE. MR. CHAIRMAN? AYE. DR. JAMESON? AYE. MR. AYE. AND [J. Approval of Minutes - April Ist 2025 ] NEXT IS, UH, THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR APRIL 1ST. DO I HAVE ANY, UH, ZACH, DID YOU MAKE THOSE CHANGES? YEAH, I EMAILED THEM. EVERYONE. OH, SEPARATE FROM THIS? SIGNED HERE? NO, I, ALRIGHT. DO I HAVE ANY, UH, RECOMMENDED, UH, CHANGE ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? IF NOT, ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. UH, WE'RE, WHICH MINUTES ARE WE APPROVING THE ONES YOU EMAILED OR THESE, THE ONES I EMAILED ARE APRIL 1ST. OKAY. ONE YOU SENT BACK TO ME. OKAY. I'M READY. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ROLL CALL. MRS. COOK. AYE. DR. JAMISON? AYE. MR. CHAIRMAN? AYE. MR. STAN MEYER. AYE. MRS. CUTLER? AYE. OKAY. WELL WAIT A MINUTE. I'M LOOKING AT THIS. UM, I'M SORRY, I'M JUST SKIMMING DOWN 'CAUSE I KNOW MR. HENDERSON HAD ASK ME ABOUT MY VOTE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND I VOTED NO, BUT I SEE THAT IT SAYS I YEAH, I YOU'VE CORRECTED IT ON THE OTHERS EFFORT WAS PUBLISHED AND EMAILED THE BOARD. OKAY. AS LONG AS IT'S BEEN CORRECTED ON THE OTHER. OKAY, THEN I'M STILL ON. I, OKAY. ALRIGHT, SO NEXT [N. Consent Agenda ] IS, UH, NEW BUSINESS, THE CONSENT AGENDA. DO I HAVE ANY, UH, ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE CONSENT AGENDA 11, 12, 13, AND 14 FOR DISCUSSION. I WOULD LIKE TO PULL, UM, NUMBER THREE, PLEASE. OKAY. AND ANYTHING ELSE? NO. ALRIGHT. SO NUMBER THREE. I, YOU AND MR. LONGBERG, NO MALICE MEANT TO YOU AT ALL, BUT I'VE, UM, JUST GOT A LITTLE CONCERN AND I JUST WANTED TO VOICE IT THAT MR. LONGBERG HAS BEEN VERY OUTSPOKEN, UM, ABOUT BUDGETS AND SO FORTH, DEALING WITH THE SCHOOL AND DIFFERENT THINGS. AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT HE CAN DO THIS, UM, WITH AN OPEN MIND AND UNBIASED AFTER HEARING AS MANY TIMES AS HE HAS SPOKE, UM, BEFORE THE BOARD. MR. LUNDBERG, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, TO UH, SPEAK? HE DOESN'T HAVE TO IF HE DOESN'T WANT TO. OKAY. WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO. NO, I JUST, MY, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN AND I FELT BEFORE VOTING ON IT, I NEEDED TO SAY THAT. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT. I'VE HEARD HIM SPEAK MANY OF THOSE TIMES AND, UH, HE IS OUTSPOKEN, BUT I THINK HE'S OUTSPOKEN FOR FISCAL DISCIPLINE AND FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THE TAXPAYERS MONEY, WHICH I THINK, UH, HAS A SYNERGY WITH THE MISSION OF, OF THE COMMITTEE. UH, I HAVE TO AGREE. YEP. SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, OUR, OUR RULES PROVIDE THAT FIRST WE WOULD APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND THEN WE GO THROUGH THE THINGS THAT WOULD BE ALRIGHT THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED. SO IT, SO SAVE FOR THE THINGS THAT HAD BEEN PULLED AND FOR THE ADDITIONS THAT WE PUT ON THERE, WHICH WAS, UH, 23, 24, AND 25. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. IF WE'RE PULLING 11, 12, 13, ALL FOR THE SAME, ARE WE LEAVING 14 OR ARE WE PULLING THAT AS WELL? 14. 14. I MISSED THAT. WE'RE PULLING 14 ALSO. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THE, UH, SO SAVE FOR, UH, 3 11, 12, 13, [01:05:02] AND 14 AND THEN THE ADDITION OF 23, 24 AND 25. DO I HAVE A, UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I SO MOVED. SECOND, SECOND. ROLL CALL. MRS. COLORS. ARE YOU SAYING MY, I WHEN YOU SAY THAT, I CAN'T TELL IF YOU'RE SAYING MY NAME OR MRS. COOK. SORRY. AYE, MR. STEINMEYER? AYE. MR. CHAIRMAN? AYE. DR. JAMISON? AYE. MRS. COOK? AYE. ALRIGHT, LET'S GO BACK TO [N.3. Citizen Appointment - John Lundberg to the Warren County Finance/Audit Committee - Alisa Scott, Finance Director ] THE, UH, SO NUMBER THREE, UM, ON, UM, THE CITIZEN APPOINTMENT FOR JOHN LUNDBERG. UM, DO I HAVE ANY DISCUSSION, ANY INPUT FROM THE AUDIENCE? NO. MM-HMM NO, NO COMMENT. OKAY. NO. GOOD. UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE BOARD OTHER THAN WHAT WE'VE HAD SO FAR? ALRIGHT, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPOINT JOHN LUNDBERG TO THE WARREN COUNTY FINANCE AUDIT COMMITTEE TO FILL AN UNEXPIRED TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2026. I'LL SECOND IT. ROLL CALL MRS. COOK. A DR. JAMON? AYE. MR. CHAIRMAN? AYE. MR. STANIER? AYE. MRS. S NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO NUMBER 11. SO [Item N.11 - N.14] HOW, HOW ABOUT IF WE JUST GROUP THESE TOGETHER? 11, 12, 13, AND 14? YES. YES. UM, TO BEGIN WITH, YOU KNOW, I, WE'RE GONNA PUT IT ALL OUT ON THE TABLE. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THE TEXT AMENDMENT AND THE C PS THAT FOLLOW WITH IT AND, UM, I, I THINK MY PRIMARY REASON OF REALLY REMOVING THIS FROM THE AGENDA FOR CONSENT FOR DISCUSSION IS BECAUSE THE PACKAGE THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THERE'S AN EMAIL FROM OUR BUILDING INSPECTION DEPARTMENT THAT SAID THEY DID NOT SUPPORT THE CS BECAUSE THERE WERE OPEN STOP ORDERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT, THAT HAS, UM, IT, IT MADE ME THINK THAT WE NEED TO START, YOU KNOW, REALIZING AND, AND ACCEPTING, UM, OTHER COUNTY STAFF OFFICIALS, UM, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS OR, UM, OPINIONS. UM, SECONDLY, YOU KNOW, WITH THE TEXT AMENDMENT, YOU GOING TO THE TEXT AMENDMENT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, THE, UH, AMENDMENT HASN'T CHANGED FROM WHEN WE FIRST HAD IT PRESENTED DURING THE WORKING SESSION. SO THERE'S STILL, IN MY OPINION, UM, A LOT OF, UM, IT NEEDS MORE CLARIFICATIONS IF EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, OF WHAT A TRAINING FACILITY IS. YOU KNOW, I MEAN IF YOU LOOK AT THE TAX AMENDMENT, IT STATES THAT THE TRAINING FACILITY IS UTILIZED FOR INDOOR AND OUTDOOR TRAINING PROGRAMS AND EXERCISES FOR EDUCATIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PARTICULAR SKILL. AND WITH ALL THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD AND PEOPLE COME, YOU KNOW, COME IN THE WORKING SESSIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I WAS ALWAYS THINKING THAT WE WERE, IT WAS GONNA BE AN INDOOR TRAINING FACILITY, BUT THE TAX AMENDMENT SAYS IT'S AN OUTDOOR, AND I REALIZED THAT MAYBE THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY OWNER IS NOT GOING TO DO AN OUTDOOR, BUT THIS IS AFFECTS THE WHOLE COUNTY. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'D BE ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO HAVE A TRAINING FACILITY ON AN ACREAGE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN AT LEAST TWO ACRES, THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND HAVE ACT OUTDOOR TRAINING PROGRAMS AS WELL. YOU KNOW, SO I, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, CLARIFICATION ON THIS BECAUSE THIS IS AFFECTING THE WHOLE COUNTY, NOT JUST ONE, ONE PROPERTY OWNER, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A TENDENCY OF TAILORING THINGS, UM, FOR, UH, NEW, UM, NEW BUSINESSES AND THINGS TO THAT NATURE. SO, UM, ANOTHER THING THAT HAS STUCK OUT TO ME WAS IN THE, UH, TEXT AMENDMENT WHERE IT SAID THAT THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS WILL SPECIFY THE CONDITIONS FOR THE CONDI CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, NOT TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM OXY BE DETERMINED, YOU KNOW, BY THE, THE BUILDING CODE AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ON ONSITE SEWAGE DISPOSAL. SO WHEN I READ THE C PS, IT HAS SOMETHING WHERE, OR UP TO A HUNDRED PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CP, AGAIN, I KNOW THAT'S JUST FOR THIS ONE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT I LOOK AT IT LIKE, WELL, WHY CAN'T THE CUP JUST STATE WHAT THE TAX AMENDMENT SAYS BASED ON THE SEPTIC THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE AT THAT POINT, [01:10:01] YOU KNOW, I MEAN, FOR ALL I KNOW, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. BUT THE, YOU KNOW, SEPTIC COULD BE A, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON IT, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE TAX AMENDMENT IS SO BROAD ABOUT IT AND THEN, THEN IT'S JUSTIFIED IN THE CUP. SO, UM, SO I, YOU KNOW, I CAN GO ON, BUT WE'VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE CLARITY OF THIS AND, UM, I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO SEND THIS BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO HAVE THEM RE-LOOK AT IT AND BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST LOOK AT THE REASONS WHY OUR BUILDING INSPECTOR OFFICIALS DID NOT SUPPORT THE C PS BECAUSE OF OPEN STOP ORDERS. DR. DALEY, SIR, IF WE COULD RE ASK MR. HAM FOR JUST A SECOND HERE. THERE'S A PROCESS FOR THE BOARD TO SEND IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. OKAY. BUT YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE A HEARING. OKAY. AND THEN SEND IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. OKAY. THE, WE ARE NOT ADVOCATING ANY OF THIS. WE'RE JUST ADVOCATING. NO, WE NEED TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS. ABSOLUTELY. UH, ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S THE PROCESS. SO WE CAN TALK THE PROCESS, TALK ABOUT HOW WE GET IT BACK TO THE PLANNING. OKAY. SO WE, WE CAN'T, INSTEAD OF, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND WE GO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST TOO MANY QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ANSWERED BEFORE WE CAN EVEN PUBLICLY, YOU KNOW? YEAH. IT'S, IT'S NOT READY, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST NOT READY. BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE IS A PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW. SO THEN WE, WE SAY, OKAY, THEN, THEN WE'RE GOING TO, TO, UH, ADVERTISE IT AND THEN NEXT WEEK WHEN IT COMES UP, WE GO, OKAY, THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON THIS. WE WANT TO SEND THIS BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. EXACTLY. OKAY. EVEN THOUGH, EVEN THOUGH THE PACKAGE IS NOT COMPLETE, THE OTHER PART TO IT IS THAT A MAJORITY OF THIS BOARD COULD, YOU KNOW, NEVER WANNA DO THIS, THAT'S FINE. BUT THE, THE APPLICANT'S MADE APPLICATION AND THEY'RE ENTITLED TO HAVE AN ANSWER. I AGREE. SO THAT'S ALL THIS IS FOR IS JUST TO, EVEN THOUGH THE PA EVEN THOUGH THE PACKAGE IS NOT COMPLETE, I MEAN, I, SO I'LL ALSO, IS THIS JUST PRO FORMA? WE HAVE, YES. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GONNA SAY? 'CAUSE I, I'VE SAID IT BEFORE THAT, YOU KNOW, OTHER LOCALITIES THAT, THAT I REPRESENT, THAT IT IS NOT REQUIRED THAT YOU AUTHORIZE THESE ADVERTISEMENTS AND, AND ANOTHER LOCALITY STAFF WOULD'VE JUST ADVERTISED IT AND THEN IT WOULD COME BACK TO YOU. BUT THIS IS YOUR TRADITION AND YOUR PROCEDURE, AND THIS IS WHAT, WHAT Y'ALL DO. YOU CAN ARGUE THAT WITH YOUR NEXT ADMINISTRATOR. I DON'T CARE. , . WELL, I, I DEFINITELY WANNA FOLLOW THE PROCESS AND THE, YOU KNOW, AND IF THE PROCESS IS, AND AS YOU JUST POINTED OUT MR. HAM, THAT THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE TO APPROVE, WE AS THE BOARD HAVE TO APPROVE A AUTHORIZATION FOR NO. SO A PLANNING FOR A HEARING. YOU, YOU'RE NOT VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS TO AUTHORIZE IT FOR ADVERTISING TO BE VERY CLEAR. MM-HMM . UH, WAIT A MINUTE. BE, BE CLEARER. WHAT ARE WE VOTING FOR? YOU'RE JUST VOTING TO, TO A AUTHORIZE, UH, COUNTY ADMINISTRATION TO ADVERTISE IT. SOMETHING NOT, I THOUGHT YOU JUST SAID WE WEREN'T VOTING. SO YOU'RE NOT VOTING TO APPROVE IT. YOU KNOW, I, I HEAR MRS. COOK NOT SEE I WON AGREEING WITH THIS ON A POLICY BASIS. EXACTLY. WHICH MEANS MAYBE SHE DOESN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE VOTING TO AUTHORIZE IT FOR ADVERTISING. I'M MAKING IT CLEAR THAT IT'S JUST TO PUT IT IN THE PAPER, NOT TO APPROVE IT. GENERALLY, WE JUST CAN'T COME ALONG AND SAY, NO, WE DON'T WANT TO ADVERTISE IT. WE WANT TO SEND IT BACK. THEN WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE, BASICALLY THE STATE LAW AND THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND WE'D ADVERTISE IT ANYWAY. YEAH. THE WAY, 'CAUSE WE'RE REQUIRED TO ADVERTISE AT SOME POINT TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. YEAH. ALRIGHT, SO, CORRECT. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE. SO WE'RE JUST GONNA, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS THE CONDITION OF THIS PACKAGE, WE'RE STILL GONNA AUTHORIZE IT FOR PUBLIC HEARING, RIGHT? YES. YOU KNOW WHAT DR. JAMON SAID WAS RIGHT. THIS IS, THIS IS PRO PHARMA. YOU, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THE APPLICANT AN ANSWER AND THE APPLICANT HAS PAID FEES. PART OF THOSE FEES ARE TO COVER PART OF THE ADVERTISING COST TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. OKAY. SO THIS, THIS IS PRO FORMA. IT'S NOT APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM IN ANY WAY. SO, SO COULD WE SAY NO, WE DON'T WANT TO ADVERTISE IT? OR SOUNDS LIKE OUR HANDS ARE TIED? UM, YOU COULD NOT ADVERTISE IT TONIGHT. YOU NEED TO ACT ON ZONING APPLICATIONS WITHIN ONE YEAR. YOU HAVE QUITE A BIT MORE TIME. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A WARREN COUNTY RESIDENT THAT, THAT WANTS AN ANSWER. UM, SO THAT, THAT'S UP TO YOU. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DO IT TONIGHT, BUT NO, NO. YOU SHOULD ADVERTISE IT SOME POINT. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT. I JUST, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT MY LEFT AND RIGHT LIMITS ARE AND JUST KNOWING THAT AND ALSO THE PUBLIC. YEAH. THEY NEED TO KNOW, THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. SO I MEAN, AUTHORIZED TO ADVERTISE IT. SO THEN WE CAN HAVE THE HEARING AND SAY, NO, WE, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ON THIS. SEND IT BACK TO THE [01:15:01] PLANNING COMMITTEE. I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE I STAND AND YOU CAN VOTE IT DOWN CORRECT TOO. THAT'S OUR OPPORTUNITY TO YOU DO ALL THAT. YOU DECIDE AFTER YOU HAVE A HEARING. OKAY. YEAH. YES. NO, DEFER IT AFTER YOU'VE HAD THE HEARING. ALRIGHT. YEAH. I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT IF UM, IF PEOPLE THINK IT'S A FOREGONE CONCLUSION, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? THEY WON'T ATTEND THE HEARING, SO OH NO. WHETHER PEOPLE ARE FOR AGAINST IT, THEY SHOULD COME OUT FOR THE HEARING. EXACTLY. IT'S THEIR CHANCE TO BE HEARD. SO WHAT, HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE? TWO WEEKS. IT'D BE THE 29TH. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THE SPECIAL MEETING. THE 29TH. OH, THE 29TH IS WHEN THIS WILL COME TO PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH, IT'LL BE ON THE, OH, MAKE SURE THAT'S ON LIKE BILL 29. SO THERE ARE, THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO THINK THIS IS BEING VOTED ON TONIGHT. AND I I UNDERSTOOD THERE WASN'T, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THERE ARE PEOPLE. SO, SO THEY, YOU KNOW THAT, THAT THAT'S THE NEGATIVE FOR VOTING TO AUTHORIZE, TO ADVERTISE THINGS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE TO AUTHORIZE, TO ADVERTISE THINGS. UM, BUT AGAIN, YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. IT'S NOT ILLEGAL TO FOLLOW THAT PRACTICE. SO, JOHN, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT. DON'T WORRY. I THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE PLENTY OF COMPANY THAT NIGHT. , SO. WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, WELL THEN WE'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND SEND IT TO, UH, DO, DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON EACH ONE OR CAN WE SAY THAT? UH, 11, 12, 13 AND 14. WELL, WHY DO WE HAVE TO SAY IT WHEN WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT? , NOW I'M BEING DIFFICULT. NOW YOU'RE REALLY CONFUSING ME. YOU CAN, YOU COULD HANG ON ONE SECOND. 'CAUSE THERE'S ACTUALLY PRACTICE FOUR SEPARATE MOTIONS HERE. SO, BUT YOU COULD CERTAINLY DO 'EM TOGETHER. GIMME ONE SECOND. THERE'S ONE MOTION TO, SO I, IF SOMEONE WANTED TO MAKE THIS MOTION, I MOVE TO AUTHORIZE FOR ADVERTISEMENT CONSENT TO ITEM TO ITEMS 11, 12, 13, AND 14. THEN YOU COULD DO IT ALL AT ONE. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. I MOVE TO, TO AUTHORIZE FOR ADVERTISEMENT CONSENT. AGENDA ITEMS 11, 12, 13, AND 14. SECOND. SECOND. ROLL CALL, UH, MRS. COLORS. AYE. MR. STAN MEYER. AYE. MR. CHAIRMAN? AYE. DR. JAMESON? AYE. MRS. COOK? AYE. OKAY. [O. Additional New Business ] SO NEXT ON THE AGENDA, IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS? WELL, I WOULD MAKE A COMMENT, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT THE CONFUSION THAT PEOPLE THINK THIS IS BEING VOTED ON TONIGHT. ANYTIME THE BOARD WANTS TO STOP AUTHORIZING THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS, WE CAN DO THAT. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TELL US, WE'LL JUST GO ON AND DO THEM LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANY BACKGROUND BEHIND THIS? SOMEBODY YEARS AGO, LONG BEFORE ANY OF US WAS IN WARREN COUNTY, THEY SAT IN ONE OF THESE SEATS UP HERE AND THEY WANTED TO AUTHORIZE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THEY DECIDED TO DO IT. AND SO SOMETIME LATER SOMEBODY ELSE DECIDED THEY WOULD LIKE TO AUTHORIZE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEY DID IT AND IT BECAME TRADITIONAL. THERE'S NOTHING REQUIRED. AND MOST LOCALITIES, , IT'S JUST THE STAFF, YOUR CLERK AUTOMATICALLY ADVERTISES WHEN THEY COME FROM A PLANNING COMMISSION. AND THE ONLY THING I CAN IMAGINE IS THAT IT, IT BRINGS IT INTO OUR, OUR FIELD OF VISION. YES. AND DOESN'T, THAT'S THE ADVANTAGE OF IT. IT LETS YOU KNOW, HEY, THIS IS COMING. ALL RIGHT. SO IT MAY BE PRO FORMA, WHICH SEEMS ODD, BUT NEVERTHELESS IT BRINGS IT ONTO OUR FIELD OF VISION, WHICH MAY BE A GOOD THING. 'CAUSE I WOULD IMAGINE THOSE PEOPLE ARE SITTING HERE AND JUST SURPRISED THAT THERE WAS A HEARING. NOW EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW THEY'RE COMING ON 29TH. THEY'RE COMING ON THE 29TH. YEAH, IN A WAY IT'S, IT'S GOOD BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T WANT A SYSTEM THAT COULD BE GAINED. LIKE IF, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING ON VACATION IN AUGUST, SET THE HEARING FOR THAT AND I WON'T GIVE A VOTE. YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. IT'S, SO WE'LL HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT. YEAH, . ALRIGHT, SO NEXT ONE ON THE AGENDA IS YOU, YOU COULD GO SIT DOWN NOW. . YOU'RE ALL GOOD. YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK. OH, BEFORE WE, BEFORE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UM, I JUST WANNA WELCOME MR. LUNDBERG TO THE FINANCE AUDIT COMMITTEE. HE'S GONNA BE A VALUABLE ASSET TO OUR, OUR GROUP. YES, HE WILL. [P. Public Comment Period - General Comments (30Minute Time Limit) ] SO NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS THE, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR GENERAL COMMENTS. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP? UH, YES, SIR. SAMANTHA. GOOD. I'M SAMANTHA. GOOD WITH THE SOUTH RIVER DISTRICT. I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE SAFE SAMUELS LIBRARY PAC. UM, [01:20:01] SO I ACTUALLY WANTED TO COME UP HERE TODAY AND TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE IT'S A WORD THAT THIS BOARD SEEMS TO LIKE TO THROW AROUND, ALTHOUGH THEY DON'T HAVE ANY THEMSELVES. UM, SO, BUT DR. JAMISON, YOU REALLY POINTED OUT SOME THINGS THAT I FELT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED. UM, SPEC ESPECIALLY YOUR USE OF STATISTICS THAT YOU LIKE TO THROW AROUND. USE. SAY THAT YOU HAD 69% SUPPORT FROM VOTERS, BUT THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION IS YOU LEFT OUT A LOT, AND I WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT EMBARRASSED TO SAY THAT BECAUSE THE ONLY OTHER PERSON RUNNING AGAINST YOU WAS A WRITING CANDIDATE. THERE WERE ACT IN ACTUALITY IN YOUR DISTRICT, YOU HAD LESS THAN 25% OF REGISTERED VOTERS WHO VOTED FOR YOU. SO IF YOU'RE REPRESENTING YOUR WHOLE DISTRICT AND NOT JUST THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR YOU, BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU ARE, THAT'S A MISREPRESENTATION OF FACTS. AND I NOTICED A LOT THAT WHEN YOU, IT REMINDS ME OF MY RESEARCH AND MY STATISTICS CLASSES IN COLLEGE. IT'S VERY EASY TO MISREPRESENT FACTS IF YOU WANT TO, AND YOU TEND TO ONLY PROVIDE A LITTLE PIECE OF INFORMATION AND THEN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT ABOUT IT AND EXPECT PEOPLE NOT TO RESEARCH IT. AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY SAD THAT YOU WERE ELECTED TO THIS BOARD AND YOU'RE REPRESENTING THAT MANY PEOPLE, BUT YOU ONLY ARE REALLY LISTENING TO A FEW OF THEM. AND YOU CLAIM THAT YOU CARE ABOUT THE INTEREST OF MINORITIES, YET YOU SUBMIT REQUESTS FOR BOOK REMOVALS BECAUSE THEY HAVE L-G-B-T-Q-I-A CONTENT AND YOU CLAIM THAT YOU ALL, THIS COUNTY PROVIDES AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF FUNDING TO THE LIBRARY. IT'S 1% OF THE BUDGET. ARE YOU LOOKING INTO EVERY OTHER 1% OF THE BUDGET? BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THAT. ARE YOU LOOKING TO FIX THE RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF DEBT THIS COUNTY IS IN? BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. YOU'RE SO FOCUSED ON THE LIBRARY THAT YOU FORGOT ABOUT THE REST OF EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON IN THIS COUNTY. THINGS THAT ARE MORE IMPORTANT. I'M JUST, I'M, I JUST CANNOT BELIEVE THE WAY YOU MISREPRESENT YOURSELF AND TO SAY THAT PEOPLE ARE SPREADING MISINFORMATION. IT SOUNDS LIKE MS. COOK HAS BEEN READING, MELANIE SOUNDS ON FACEBOOK, AND I KNOW THAT MR. BUTLER HAS TAKEN MELANIE AL'S WORD ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ALL THESE SUPPOSED CONSTITUENTS ARE AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT. BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE BECAUSE YOU CLAIM WHEN WE COME HERE FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT YOU WANNA HEAR US, YOU WANNA HEAR YOUR CONSTITUENTS, BUT THEN WHEN WE COME YOU SAY, OH, BUT NOT THESE CONSTITUENTS, ALL THESE SUPPOSED CONSTITUENTS IN THE BACKGROUND. IT'S RIDICULOUS. AND PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO LISTEN. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, MR. STAN MEYER. PEOPLE DID THINK THERE WAS A VOTE TODAY BECAUSE PEOPLE LISTENED TO MISINFORMATION ON FACEBOOK. MISINFORMATION POSTED BY MR. JAMESON AND MR. BELK AND THE LIBRARY BOARD. THANK YOU MA'AM. UH, THAT'S ALL FOR THE ONES WHO SIGNED UP, SIR. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE, UH, AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE? PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW CLOSED. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO OTHER NEW BUSINESS, I JUST WANNA ADD ONE THING. YES. EVEN THOUGH THE LIBRARY'S BUDGET IS 1% OF THE TOTAL BUDGET, IT'S ACTUALLY MORE THAN 50% OF OUR DIS DISCRETIONARY FUNDING. IT'S, IT'S ALMOST TWO THIRDS. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER NEW BUSINESS OR ANY BUSINESS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, DO I HAVE A, UH, MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? OKAY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.