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          IF I CAN HAVE YOUR, UH, ATTENTION PLEASE. 
          TODAY IS, UH, TUESDAY, MAY 13TH, AND WE'VE GOT A SPECIAL MEETING BEGINNING AT SIX, FOLLOWED BY A, UH, A WORK SESSION, UH, IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE SPECIAL MEETING. 
          AND THE, UH, SO LET ME OPEN THE MEETING THEN. 
          AND FIRST ON THE, 
          [A. Public Hearing - Ordinance Delaying Penalties and Interest Upon Certain Local Taxes]
UH, AGENDA IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR, UM, ORDINANCE DELAYING PENALTIES AND INTEREST UPON CERTAIN LOCAL TAXES. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO, UM, CONSIDER THIS ORDINANCE. 
          THE TOWN OF FRONT WORLD CHANGED THEIR DUE DATE FOR THEIR TAXES TO THE 20TH OF JUNE AND LAST YEAR THAT WAS VERY CONFUSING FOR A LOT OF TAXPAYERS. 
          AND WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE VERY UNHAPPY WITH HAVING PENALTY CHARGED ON JUNE THE SIXTH THIS YEAR WITH THE REASSESSMENT AND THE TRANSITION FROM, UM, BRIGHT TO VISION FOR THE REASSESSMENT SOFTWARE, IT WAS GONNA TAKE LONGER FOR THE TEXTBOOKS TO BE COMPLETED ANYWAY. 
          AND I FEEL LIKE TAXPAYERS SHOULD HAVE 30 DAYS ONCE THEY RECEIVE THEIR TAX BILLS, BEFORE YOU'RE GONNA CHARGE THEM PENALTY. 
          THE STATUTE REQUIRES 14 DAYS, BUT AS I SAID, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE GETTING PENALTY CHARGED WITHIN TWO WEEKS, THAT'S CAN BE HARSH FOR, FOR TAXPAYERS. 
          AND SO LAST YEAR WE ACTUALLY HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE COME IN THAT, NUMBER ONE, THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WERE GONNA HAVE PENALTY CHARGED BECAUSE THEY WERE THINKING ABOUT THE TOWN'S DUE DATE. 
          UM, AND NUMBER TWO, IT'S 10%, IT'S 10% OR $10, UM, IS THE MINIMUM. 
          SO THERE'S NO VARIANCE. 
          LIKE AS SOON AS THEY'RE LATE, THAT LATE PENALTY IS CHARGED. 
          SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU PASS THIS ORDINANCE SO THAT THE PENALTY WILL NOT BE CHARGED UNTIL JUNE THE 24TH. 
          WE'LL PUT THE NOTICE ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          I HAVE A PUBLIC NOTICE GOING IN THE NEWSPAPER ON FRIDAY AND AGAIN NEXT WEEK TOO. 
          SO, UM, I ASK THAT YOU WILL PASS THIS ORDINANCE FOR OUR TAXPAYERS PENALTY DATE TO BE EXTENDED. 
          THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
          SO THE, UH, DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? I DO. 
          WHEN DO YOU EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO SEND THE BILLS OUT? SO THEY'RE AT THE PRINTER. 
          WE ARE, WE'RE NEGOTIATING WITH A PRINTER RIGHT NOW. 
          THEY'RE PERSONAL PROPERTY. 
          THERE'S SOME, SOME ISSUES THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON WITH BRIGHT WITH OUR SOFTWARE. 
          AND THE REAL ESTATE WILL PROBABLY START PRINTING TOMORROW. 
          ALL THE SUPPLEMENTALS HAVE GONE OUT. 
          PUBLIC SERVICE HAS GONE OUT, THE MINERAL TAX HAS GONE OUT. 
          SO WE ARE HOPING BY THE END OF THE WEEK THEY'LL ALL BE IN THE MAIL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO PERSONAL PROPERTY AND REAL ESTATE ESTATE WILL STILL BE IN ONE PA ENVELOPE? NO, THE IT'LL BE, THEY'LL BE SEPARATE. 
          SOMETIMES IT DEPENDS ON HOW THE ACCOUNTS ARE, BUT THEY MAY VERY WELL BE AND SEPARATE BECAUSE THOSE BOOKS ARE SEPARATE. 
          SO SOMETIMES THEY WILL MARRY THEM UP IF THE ADDRESS IS EXACTLY THE SAME. 
          BUT IF THERE'S ANY VARIANCE IN THE ADDRESS WHEN THE PRINTER PICKS IT UP, THEY CAN COME IN SEPARATE ENVELOPES. 
          SO IF, IF IT'S NOT IN ONE, PEOPLE SHOULD CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR ABSOLUTELY DO IT THE OTHER. 
          OKAY. 
          AND DEFINITELY ANYTIME ANYONE ASKS, HAVE THEM REACH OUT TO US. 
          UM, IF THEY DON'T RECEIVE THEIR BILL WHEN THEY THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE, OR, AND THEY CAN GO ONLINE AND REVIEW THEIR BILL THERE AS WELL. 
          IS THE ONLINE ALREADY AVAILABLE? IF, IF THEY'RE AT THE PRINTER NOW ANYWAY, AS SOON AS THEY, AS SOON AS THE PRINTER SENDS THEM TO PRINT, THEN THEY'LL BE AVAILABLE ONLINE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE IN THE PROOFING PROCESS. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH WITH PROOFS THIS WEEK, SO WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT ALL FINISHED TOMORROW OR THURSDAY AND THEN THEY'LL BE PUT INTO PRINT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THIS MAKES SENSE TO ME. 
          14 DAYS. 
          I AGREE. 
          IT'S TOO SHORT. 
          YEAH. 
          DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE CONCERNING THIS MATTER? I THINK, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE'VE GOT A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR TONIGHT. 
          SO IF YOU COULD OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. 
          SO THE, UH, DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR, UH, CONCERNS FROM THE AUDIENCE ON THIS MATTER? WAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP? NO, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
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GOING TWICE. 
          PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. 
          SO DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR ADOPT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, DELAYING PENALTIES AND INTEREST UPON CERTAIN LOCAL TAXES TO JUNE 23RD, 2025. 
          MRS. CALLERS, THERE IS A WRITTEN RESOLUTION THAT WOULD BE BETTER IF YOU JUST DID I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPTED PROS, ORDINANCE, LAYING PENALTIES AND INTERESTS UPON CERTAIN LOCAL TAXES, WHICH WOULD DO THAT, UH, IN SUCH A WAY THAT WAS IN THE WRITTEN MOTION THAT'S ATTACHED WITH YOUR ITEMS. SO LEAVE THE, LEAVE THE, UM, DATE OFF OF THAT AND JUST 'CAUSE ALL I HAVE IS THE MOTION SHEET HERE. 
          UH, UNLESS I'M SUPPOSED TO READ THE ENTIRE NO, NO, IT'S, IT'S NOT THE, IT'S PROPOSED OR A SUGGESTED MOTION AT THE VERY BOTTOM. 
          YEP, THAT'S WHAT I READ. 
          UNLESS I'VE GOT AN OLD ONE. 
          I JUST ADDED THE DATE. 
          'CAUSE I THOUGHT IT NEEDED THE DATE. 
          SO, SO I MOVED THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, DELAYING PENALTIES AND INTEREST UPON CERTAIN LOCAL TAXES. 
          THAT'S WHAT I HAVE HERE. 
          YEAH, AND THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          AND YOU HAD ADDED SOME THINGS TO IT. 
          AND, AND, UH, OKAY. 
          SORRY TO SOUND TOTALLY PEDANTIC, BUT THE, OR THE WRITTEN ORDINANCE DOES VARIOUS OTHER THINGS TOO THAT MAKES IT CLEAR THAT OKAY. 
          YOU, I DON'T WANT TO JUST CHANGE THAT DATE. 
          I WANT TO DO WHAT THE OR WRITTEN ORDINANCE SAYS. 
          OKAY. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          ROLL CALL MRS. COOK? AYE. 
          DR. 
          JAMESON? AYE. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN? AYE. 
          MR. STAN MEYER. 
          AYE. 
          MRS. CALLERS? AYE. 
          OKAY. 
          NEXT ON 
          [B. Closed Session - Section 2.2-3711(A)(8)]
OUR AGENDA, THE, UH, BOARD WILL BE GOING INTO A CLOSED SECOND. 
          WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE UH, SURE. 
          I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ENTER INTO A CLOSED MEETING UNDER SECTION 2.2 DASH 37 11 A EIGHT. 
          FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING SUCH ADVICE, THE SUBJECT MATTERS ARE THE PROVIDING OF LIBRARY SERVICES, INCLUDING LEASES RELATED HERE TO FOIA MATTERS AND MATTERS REGARDING TAX EXEMPTION OF FEES AND TAXES FOR SANITARY DISTRICTS. 
          I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND. 
          ROLL CALL MRS. COLORS. 
          AYE. 
          MR. STAN MEYER? AYE. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN? AYE. 
          DR. 
          JAMISON? AYE. 
          MRS. COOK? AYE. 
          BEFORE WE CONVENE, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO, UH, INVITE, UH, MR. UH, ERIC BELK INTO THE CLOSED SESSION. 
          HE IS THE CHAIR FOR THE, UH, UH, COUNTY, THE WARREN COUNTY LIBRARY BOARD. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO WE'RE GOING INTO A CLOSED SESSION NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD CERTIFIES TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER SECTION 2.2 DASH 37 11, A EIGHT OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, AND ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVENED, WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING BY THE PUBLIC BODY. 
          I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND RULE CALL MRS. COOK. 
          AYE. 
          DR. 
          JAMON? AYE. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN? AYE. 
          MR. STAN MEYER AYE, UH, MRS. SCHOLARS I WILL VOTE NO SINCE I COULDN'T STAY IN THE MEETING, UH, FOR ITS ENTIRETY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          15. 
          SO THE, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES. 
          WE SHOULD PROBABLY NOTE THAT MRS. COLORS HAD TO LEAVE THE MEETING AT SIX 50. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SO NOTED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO THAT SHOULD BE IN THE MINUTES THAT, SO THE NEXT IS MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. 
          YEAH. 
          I MOVE THAT WE AMEND THE AGENDA TO REMOVE ITEM C. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          WE CALL MRS. COLORS. 
          AYE. 
          MR. STAN MEYER? AYE. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN? AYE. 
          DR. 
          JAMON? AYE. 
          MRS. KUCK? AYE. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          SO NEXT ON THE AGENDA 
          [E. Discussion - Secondary Six-Year Plan through the Virginia Department of Transportation - Mike Berry, Public Works Director]
IS, UM, IT'S A DISCUSSION FOR THE SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN THROUGH THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WITH MR. MIKE BERRY. 
          GOOD EVENING, SIR. 
          BOARD MEMBERS, UM, I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO DO A HANDOFF HERE. 
          SO THE SECONDARY SYSTEM IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 TO 31. 
          UM, 
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THIS WILL BE ABOUT OUR CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM, ESTIMATED ALLOCATIONS YOU SHOULD HAVE IN YOUR PACKAGE, THE ROADS THAT, UM, WE'VE HAD ON OUR PLAN DISCUSSED AND, UM, ADDITIONAL LISTING OF THE ROADS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNFUNDED. 
          UM, AND I HAVE MR. MATT SMITH WITH VDOT HERE. 
          AND, AND MR. SMITH CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. 
          AND HE HAS A, A QUICK, UH, SLIDE PRESENTATION THAT HE CAN RUN THROUGH REAL FAST FOR YOU. 
          AND, AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OR MATT, UM, WE CAN ANSWER THOSE. 
          AND IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, THEN NEXT WEEK WE WILL HAVE OUR, OUR REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD, UH, THAT, UH, BISHOP JOHNSON, BISHOP JOHNSON, YOU'LL BE NEXT. 
          YOU'LL BE NEXT. 
          IT'LL BE AFTER US. 
          MR. JOHNSON? NO, HE'S, THANK YOU. 
          UH, GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN. 
          MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UM, I'LL, I'LL TRY TO GO THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK, BUT THIS IS AN ANNUAL PROCESS FOR EACH YEAR. 
          WE HAVE TO UPDATE THIS SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN. 
          UM, IT, LIKE MIKE SAID, IT DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH WILL BE NEXT TUESDAY, AND IT ALSO REQUIRES THE, UM, BOARD TO PASS THE RESOLUTION OF APPROVAL, UM, AS WELL. 
          UM, UH, SO, AND I THINK YOU MAY HAVE THIS IN YOUR PACKET IF YOU CAN'T READ IT, BUT THESE ARE THE ESTIMATED, UM, CONSTRUCTION ALLOCATIONS FOR, UH, THAT VDOT WILL RECEIVE TO SPEND IN WARREN COUNTY ON THE SECONDARY ROAD SYSTEM, UH, FOR THE NEXT SIX YEARS, WHICH WILL COVER, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2026 THROUGH, UM, FISCAL YEAR 2031. 
          UH, FY 2026, UM, BEGINS JULY 1ST OF THIS YEAR, 2025. 
          UM, THE, THERE ARE TWO FUNDING SOURCES THAT MAKE UP THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM ALLOCATIONS THAT ARE TELE FEE IS ONE WHICH ARE, UH, FEES THAT ARE PAID BY TELECOMMUNICATION COMPANIES TO OCCUPY VDOT S RIGHT OF WAY. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS DISTRICT GRANT UNPAVED. 
          IT'S FOR, IT WAS SET UP BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO, UH, PAY FOR, UH, PAVING UNPAVED ROADS. 
          AND, UM, IT'S KIND OF BASED, THAT FORMULA IS BASED UPON HOW MANY UNPAVED ROADS, MILES YOU HAVE IN YOUR COUNTY VERSUS THE REST OF THE STATE. 
          UM, I WILL NOTE THERE WAS A CHANGE AND, AND THE REASON IT SAYS ESTIMATED ALLOCATIONS, YOUR FY 26 MONEY IS, IS FIXED AND THEN EVERYTHING OUT FROM THERE IS A PROJECTION. 
          AND SO, UM, FROM THIS, THIS, THIS PLAN VERSUS LAST YEAR'S ALLOCATIONS, THE, THE TFE MONEY REDUCED BY ABOUT $15,000 EACH YEAR. 
          UM, AND I, I THINK THAT'S DUE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, LESS PEOPLE HAVING PHONES IN THEIR HOME AND PROBABLY CELL PHONES. 
          BUT, UM, SO THAT, THAT'S THE FUNDING. 
          AND SO THEN THE PROGRAM IS HOW WE, UH, PROGRAM TO SPEND THAT AND ON WHICH PROJECTS. 
          AND THIS IS BASICALLY, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A YEARLY UPDATE. 
          SO, UH, WILLIAM VINCENT ROAD WAS THE FIRST ONE ON THERE. 
          UM, IT'S GETTING SOME MONEY JULY 1ST, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO START THAT EARLY AND WE'VE COMPLETED THAT. 
          I THINK THAT PROJECT TURNED OUT WELL IF YOU'VE BEEN ON THAT ROAD. 
          UM, AND WE, I LOOKED AT THE BUDGET AND IT CAME IN WHAT I LOOKED AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE CHARGES, WE HAVE $87 LEFT ON THE PROJECT. 
          SO , I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKED OUT, BUT THAT WAS WEIRD. 
          SO, UM, THE, THE NEXT ONE IS RICHARDSON ROAD. 
          THAT ONE WILL BE STARTED NEXT SUMMER. 
          UM, AND THEN, AND SO ALL THESE ARE ARE THE RURAL RUSTIC WHERE WE'RE GONNA PAVE AND WE'RE PUTTING THAT DISTRICT GRANT UNPAVED MONEY ON THOSE. 
          MESSICK ROAD WAS ON THE LAST YEAR'S PLAN. 
          IT'S STILL ON THIS ONE. 
          THAT'LL BE A, A SPRING OF 2028 PROJECT, UH, POINT ROAD. 
          THIS'LL BE A 2029 PROJECT. 
          AND THEN JENNINGS LANE WOULD BE 2029. 
          AND THEN, UM, THE, THE ONE WE ADDED THAT'S NEW TO THIS PLAN THAT WASN'T ON LAST YEAR'S, IS THE STE LANE PHASE ONE, UM, THAT WAS ADDED HERE ON THE END. 
          UM, AND THEN THE, THE, AND I'M JUMPING AHEAD OF MY SLIDES. 
          I THINK SO, YEAH, SO THERE'S, THERE'S THE CONTINUATION OF THE LIST. 
          WE ADDED SPEED LANE. 
          AND THEN, UM, THIS LAST CATEGORY IS WHAT IS CALLED COUNTYWIDE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. 
          THAT'S WHERE WE LIKE TO PUT ALL THE TFE MONEY BECAUSE TFE HAS FLEXIBILITY. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SPENT ON UNPAVED ROADS. 
          YOU COULD USE THAT MONEY TO MAKE A CONSTRUCTION IMPROVEMENT ON A PAVED ROAD. 
          UM, SO WE LIKE TO PUT THAT THERE. 
          AND THEN IF WE HAVE A, A SHORTFALL ON A PROJECT, WE CAN ALSO USE THAT MONEY TO MAKE THE PROJECT WHOLE. 
          UM, OR YOU COULD EVEN ADVANCE A OVERALL RUSTIC, YOU KNOW, AS THE FUNDS ACCUMULATE IN THAT. 
          UM, 
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THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I HAVE ON THE PLAN. 
          IT'S, LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST AN UPDATE. 
          THERE'S NOT MUCH CHANGE FOR LAST YEAR. 
          DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TUESDAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, BISHOP JOHNSON. 
          OKAY. 
          [D. Recognition of James Markham Marshal and the 250th Birthday Celebration of the United States - Bishop Larry Johnson]
UM, MY NAME, WHOA . 
          MY NAME IS, UH, LARRY JOHNSON IN REAL LIFE. 
          AND, UH, I PORTRAY, UM, A PERSON CALLED LIBERTY MAN, UH, IN MY OTHER LIFE. 
          AND I AM A TELLER OF HISTORY OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. 
          AND I'M NOT A PRESENTER OF, UH, ANY PERSON. 
          I'M NOT GEORGE WASHINGTON. 
          I'M NOT. 
          I I JUST TELL THE STORY OF, UH, WHAT OUR FOREFATHERS DID FOR US. 
          AND WHILE WE ARE HERE IN APRIL TO SPEAKING TO GOVERN OURSELVES, AND DURING THE PROCESS OF ALL OF THIS, I, UM, UH, HAVE DISCOVERED SOME THINGS THAT I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO KNOW ABOUT. 
          AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR, UH, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE PLACE, BUT WHERE ELSE DO I GO WITH THIS INFORMATION? MM-HMM . 
          HISTORY, UH, AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          UM, I KNOW THE, UH, I, I DISCOVERED THROUGH THE HELP OF, UH, SOME FOLKS, UH, IN RICHMOND, UH, WHO HAVE GIVEN ME THE MINUTES OF 1835 HOU HOUSE OF BURGESS'S. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT WAS CALLED IN THOSE DAYS. 
          AND, UM, AND THE DELEGATES, AND I KNOW WHO THE, UH, IN THE READING OF MY MATERIALS, I KNOW THE PERSON THAT SUBMITTED THE LAW TO SEPARATE PART OF, UH, SHINDO COUNTY OUT TO MAKE IT, UM, WARREN COUNTY. 
          AND AS I GO ALONG AND STUDY THIS, UM, I WONDER WHY WE HAVEN'T, WHY WE DON'T HAVE THIS INFORMATION. 
          WHY AREN'T WE TEACHING THIS, UH, TO OUR CHILDREN? AND, UH, IT'S NOT PROVIDED FOR IN A STATE CURRICULUM. 
          UH, MAYBE THERE'S SOME TEACHERS HERE, FORMER TEACHERS MAYBE. 
          AND, UH, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO TAKE THIS. 
          I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. 
          I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHERE WE COME FROM, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU COME FROM, YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING, SO, AND THERE, THEN THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO DO AND, AND EASELS BEEN PROVIDED HERE. 
          AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN TALK INTO THIS MICROPHONE AND, AND HOLD THESE UP OR NOT, BUT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TRY AND I'M GOING TO, UH, I, I HOPE I DON'T INSULT YOU TREATING YOU SORT OF AS A CLASS, YOU KNOW, BUT I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU THE PEOPLE THAT WALKED THROUGH WARREN COUNTY AND HAVE MADE US PART OF WHO WE ARE. 
          STAY STANDBY. 
          CAN YOU HELP ME? NO, COME ON. 
          YOU CAN HELP ME. 
          WE ALL KNOW, WE ALL KNOW WHO THIS, I DON'T HAVE THESE IN, IN ANY REAL ORDER, BUT THIS IS, UH, UH, DANIEL MORGAN. 
          AND WE WILL COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT DANIEL MORGAN HAS DONE, AND I'LL HAVE A REQUEST OF YOU. 
          THIS IS, UM, THIS IS A, THIS IS A MINISTER. 
          THIS IS A MINISTER HERE. 
          AND, UM, HE HAD, HE HAD EIGHT CHURCHES, SOME IN OUR AREA. 
          HERE WE GO. 
          WE CAN PUT THAT AND JUST PUT IT RIGHT ON TOP OF THAT. 
          MUHLENBERG. 
          HE WAS KNOWN AS THE FIGHTING, AS THE FIGHTING PARSON. 
          AND HE ASSEMBLED FROM OUR COUNTY. 
          NOW I'M SAYING OUR COUNTY, BECAUSE I'M LIVING NOW, BEFORE, UH, 1836, UH, HE ASSEMBLED FROM OUR, UH, PEOPLE HERE, UH, 300 MEN. 
          AND THEY WENT TO WAR. 
          AND SOME OF THE WIVES WENT WITH THE MEN. 
          SO, AND THEY ASSEMBLED AND THEY MARCHED AWAY. 
          AND, UH, AFTER SOMETIME THEY ENDED UP AT, UH, AT, UH, VALLEY FORGE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST DEVASTATING PLACES YOU COULD HAVE EVER BEEN, WHERE WE LOST 3000 MEN OUT OF 11,000, 3000 DIED OF DISEASE AND STARVATION. 
          AND SO WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE HERE. 
          WE HAVE DANIEL MORGAN, THAT, THAT PLANTED HIS FEET AND 
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DID SOME THINGS FOR US HERE, WHICH I'LL COME BACK TO IN JUST A MINUTE. 
          WE HAVE, UH, I HOPE YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M TREATING YOU LIKE YOU'RE IN THE FIRST GRADE OR THIRD GRADE, BECAUSE THIS SORT OF WAY I DO IT THERE TOO. 
          THIS MAN WASHINGTON, GREW UP HERE, GREW UP IN THESE MOUNTAINS. 
          HE KNEW THE PEOPLE. 
          HE KNEW OUR PEOPLE. 
          AND, AND WHEN HE WENT TO WAR, MANY OF OUR PEOPLE HERE JOINED HIM IN THE WAR. 
          AND SO, SO HE WAS HERE. 
          I WANT US TO COME TO THE PLACE THAT OUR CHILDREN KNOW OF THIS HISTORY. 
          I DON'T WANT A CHILD TO DROP THEIR CHIN DOWN IN THEIR CHEST AND SAY, I AM FROM WARREN COUNTY. 
          WHY DID THEY DROP THEIR CHEST DOWN? BECAUSE DOWN THE STREET THEY'VE HAD A DRUG DEAL GOING ON. 
          OR SOMEONE HAD TO HIDE IN A GARBAGE BAG. 
          GARBAGE BAG CAN OVER AT, UH, CAN I SAY THE SCHOOL? YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT, DON'T YOU? ANYWAY, I WON'T GO INTO THAT ONE. 
          A NEARBY SCHOOL. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE THE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE MAN FOR WHOM TO COUNT HIS NAME PROBABLY IF HE WAS ROMAN CATHOLIC, MEAN WE JUST GOT A NEW POPE, NOT ROMAN CATHOLIC. 
          BUT CERTAINLY I RESPECT THAT FAITH. 
          UM, THIS MAN WOULD BE A SAME, THIS IS THE MAN FOR WHOM THIS COUNTY IS NAMED. 
          DO WE KNOW? WHY DO OUR CHILDREN KNOW? WHY DO THEY HAVE AN INKLING IN THE FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH, FIFTH GRADES AS TO WHY THIS COUNTY IS NAMED? WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE, I COULDN'T FIND ANYONE. 
          MAYBE I HAD A SMALL CIRCLE OF FRIENDS THAT COULD TELL ME WHY WARREN COUNTY WAS NAMED WARREN COUNTY. 
          AND SO WE WE WENT TO WORK ON THAT, OR I DID. 
          AND I BEGAN TO FIND, AND I FOUND ONE OR TWO PEOPLE THAT KNEW, AND THEY SAID, YEAH, LARRY IS NAMED FOR JOSEPH WARREN, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS. 
          JOSEPH WARREN GAVE HIS LIFE THAT OUR COUNTRY WOULD BE FREE. 
          ONE OF THE GREATEST HEROES. 
          NEXT QUESTION I HAD WAS WHY WOULD A COUNTY NAME ITSELF, AND, AND I WAS TOLD THIS WHEN I STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT, SOME GUY CAME TO ME, YOU KNOW, DOWN IN MCDONALD'S, WE WERE TALKING. 
          HE SAID, OH YEAH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THE GUY THAT'S TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE WARREN AND THE COUNTY BEING NAMED WARREN. 
          WHO IS HE? AND I SAID, WELL, HE WAS UP IN BOSTON, HE WAS KILLED AT BUNKER HILL. 
          AND HE SAID, WHY WOULD WE NAME ANYTHING DOWN HERE AFTER ONE OF THEM YANKEES? GOOD QUESTION. 
          AND THE REASON FOR IT WAS MEN COMING BACK AND HAD COME BACK FROM WAR WHEN WE CAME TO THE PLACE, WE WANTED A COUNTY, ALMOST THE GENERATION, WELL, IT WAS A GENERATION LATER. 
          THERE WERE OLD TIMERS THAT REMEMBERED THE MAN THAT GAVE HIS LIFE FOR OUR REVOLUTION, AND THEY WANTED THEIR COUNTY NAME FOR HIM. 
          WHAT GREAT HISTORY. 
          YOU, YOU KNOW THAT, JUST TO TALK ABOUT JOSEPH WARREN ASSASSINATED AT AGE 34, A PHYSICIAN, A DOCTOR, THE, THE, THE PERSON THAT REALLY LIT DF TO THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. 
          AND OUR COUNTY IS NAMED FOR HIM. 
          NOW, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM HERE, I HAVE HEARD, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE CURRICULUM. 
          THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE GIVEN THE TEACHERS A FOLDER OF INFORMATION ON JOSEPH WARREN. 
          PRAISE THE LORD FOR THAT. 
          BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM HAVE A FOLDER ON GEORGE WASHINGTON. 
          GEORGE WASHINGTON, THE YOUTH THAT WAS HERE AND WORKED WITH OUR PEOPLE AND SURVEYED THEIR LAND AND KNEW 'EM ALL. 
          AND WHEN THEY GOT READY TO ELECT SOMEONE TO THE HOUSE OF BURGESSES, THEY ELECTED THIS YOUNG MAN FROM SOMEWHERE WAY DOWN FROM THE COAST TO REPRESENT THEM UP HERE. 
          WONDERFUL HISTORY. 
          AND SO NOW, UM, I'M GONNA, OH, IN CASE YOU'RE, IN CASE YOU'RE INTERESTED, YOU CAN LOOK AT IT LATER. 
          THIS IS A MAP OF OUR WHOLE AREA AND THE EVOLUTION OF THE VARIOUS COUNTIES WHEN THEY CAME. 
          UM, DOES THIS THING COME LOOSE? IT IT CAN'T FOLLOW ME AROUND, CAN IT? NO. 
          WELL, YOU CAN SEE HERE, YOU CAN SEE HUNDO COUNTY. 
          YOU GOT PAGE THAT MA MADE A COUNTY, UH, BEFORE OUR COUNTY, UH, IN 1831. 
          WE BECA WE BECAME A COUNTY IN 1836. 
          AND, UH, WHERE, WHERE'S OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE? WHERE WHERE IS HE? OH, I KNOW YOUR PREDECESSOR. 
          MANY OF THEM. 
          I'LL TELL YOU SOMETIME. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW WHO YOUR PREDECESSOR WAS? THE FATHER OF JOHN MARSHALL. 
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YEP. 
          THAT'S WHO PRECEDED YOU AS, THEY DIDN'T CALL HIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. 
          THEY CALLED HIM SOMETHING ELSE. 
          CLERK PRECEDED YOU. 
          WHAT A WONDERFUL, WHAT A WONDERFUL LEGACY HE LEFT TO YOU. 
          THAT YOU CAN STAND IN THE SHOES AND IN THE SHADOW OF THE FATHER OF ALL OF THESE MARSHALS. 
          AND SO WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS I FIND THIS INFORMATION OUT. 
          SO WHAT DO I DO WITH IT? WHAT DO I DO WITH IT? TELL ME, HAVE YOU GOT ANY IDEAS? WHAT CAN I DO WITH IT? I WANT TO SHARE IT WITH THE PEOPLE. 
          I WANNA SHARE IT WITH YOU. 
          I WANNA SHARE IT WITH ALL THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM HERE. 
          I WANNA SHARE IT WITH ALL, ALL THE KIDS IN THE SCHOOL. 
          TEACHERS THAT COME IN FROM OTHER PLACES THAT DON'T KNOW WARREN COUNTY BECAUSE WE HAVE AN INHERITANCE IN WARREN COUNTY LIKE NO OTHER. 
          I'M A MEMBER OF THE, THE, UH, SONS OF AMERICAN REVOLUTION INACTIVE NOW BECAUSE I CAN'T DO ALL THE MARCHING AND THE WALKING THAT THE YOUNGER GUYS DO. 
          BUT THEY GO OUT. 
          DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY GRAVES? NO. 
          YOU DON'T KNOW. 
          I SHOULDN'T ASK THAT. 
          MY WIFE SAID, DON'T DO THAT. 
          DON'T ASK THESE RHETORICAL QUESTIONS. 
          THE SAR HAS MARKED OVER 125 GRAVES OF SOLDIERS FROM THIS AREA ALL AROUND US IN THESE HILLS ARE HEROES THAT FOUGHT FOR THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. 
          NOW DOESN'T THAT MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE IMPORTANT THAT YOU'RE A LEADER OF A COUNTY WHERE THESE THINGS WERE HAPPENING? DON'T YOU WANT OUR CHILDREN TO KNOW? WELL, HERE AGAIN, MY WIFE SAID, DON'T ASK THOSE QUESTIONS LIKE THAT. 
          LARRY, YOU'RE SHE, SHE TRIES TO KEEP A LEASH ON ME. 
          SHE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT, SO LET'S GO. 
          OKAY. 
          OH, IS THIS THE THING THAT MAKES THIS THING TICK AND GO THIS BUTTON RIGHT HERE. 
          THE BIG ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          SO THERE'S SOME THINGS I WANT TO ASK YOU TO DO. 
          I GOT NINE THINGS I WANT TO ASK YOU TO DO, BUT I KNOW GOOD AND WELL THAT, THAT YOU'LL THROW ME OUT BEFORE I GET TO THE NINTH ONE. 
          SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO WITH SOME THAT TO ME ARE VERY IMPORTANT. 
          SO HERE WE ARE, ONE OF THE GREATEST COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA. 
          ONE OF THE HATS OF ONE OF THE GREATEST HERITAGES. 
          WHAT IS THIS? THIS IS ME STANDING IN GRAVEYARD. 
          AND THIS, THESE MARKERS ARE OF JAMES MARKUM MARSHALL, THE BROTHER OF JOHN MARSHALL. 
          HE CAME TO THIS COUNTY, HE DEVELOPED HAPPY CREEK MANOR. 
          HE JOINED A REVOLUTION WHEN HE WAS 14 YEARS OLD AT VALLEY FORGE. 
          HISS DADDY TOOK HIM WITHIN TWO YEARS. 
          HE WAS A SERGEANT BY THE END OF THE WAR, HE WAS A COLONEL. 
          HE MOVED UP THROUGH THE RANKS. 
          AND AT THE END OF THE WAR, HE WAS WITH ALEXANDER S. HAMILTON ON THAT, THAT LAST CHARGE THAT BROKE THE BACK OF THE BRITISH ARMY, HE WAS THERE. 
          HE WENT INTO THE 10TH, WHAT'S THAT THING CALLED? COACH READOUT? READOUT. 
          HE WAS AT THE 10TH READOUT. 
          IT WAS BLOODY, IT WAS GRUESOME. 
          THERE WAS A GENERAL THERE THAT GOT WOUNDED AND HAD IT TOOK HIM MONTHS TO GET OVER. 
          AND THAT WAS MUHLENBERG. 
          BUT A YOUNG MAN NAMED JAMES MARSHALL, WHO ENDED UP COMING HERE. 
          NOW YOU HAVE A RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU, AND YOU NEVER WANNA SIT STILL FOR ME TO READ IT TO YOU 'CAUSE TOO LONG. 
          BUT I WANT YOU TO PLEASE READ THAT AND LEARN WHO JAMES MARSHALL IS. 
          JAMES MARSHALL BECAME A MAJOR GENERAL BECAUSE GEORGE WASHINGTON ASKED FOR HIM TO BE MADE A GENERAL AFTER THE REVOLUTION WAS OVER BECAUSE ONE OF HIS FAVORITE GENERALS WAS IMPRISONED BY THE FRENCH, SCHEDULED TO HAVE HIS HEAD CUT OFF, AND HE SELECTED JAMES MARSHALL TO GO TO EUROPE AND TO SEEK THE FREEDOM OF MARCUS LAFAYETTE, WHICH HE SUCCEEDED. 
          HE HAD TO DEAL WITH BOTH THE REIGN OF TERROR, HAD TO DEAL WITH NAPOLEON, BUT HE SUCCEEDED. 
          ISN'T THAT, ISN'T THAT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT? AND THEN AFTER THAT, JOHN ADAMS KNEW THAT HE HAD STUDIED FOR THE LAW, UH, TO TO TO BE A LAWYER WHILE HE WAS IN 
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KENTUCKY AS A YOUNG MAN. 
          AND IN KENTUCKY, HE DISCOVERED FRAUD. 
          HE DISCOVERED A GROUP OF BAD FORMER SOLDIERS WERE TRYING TO TAKE KENTUCKY OUT AND GIVE IT TO THE SPANISH AND BECOME A PART OF THE SPANISH EMPIRE. 
          WHY WAS THAT? WELL, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A LONG STORY IS THAT THE PEOPLE IN KENTUCKY WANTED TO BE FRIENDS WITH THE SPANISH BECAUSE THE SPANISH WERE BLOCKING THE SALE OF THEIR PRODUCTS DOWN IN LOUISIANA. 
          SO MARSHALL DISCOVERS THAT HE THROWS A MONKEY WRENCH INTO IT. 
          IT DOESN'T WORK. 
          THE SPANISH FINALLY LEAVE 1803. 
          THOMAS JEFFERSON BUYS LOUISIANA AND YOUNG MARSHALL IS APPOINTED A SENATOR OF THE NEW TERRITORY OF LOUISIANA. 
          BUT HE COMES HOME, HE COMES BACK, HE GOES TO EUROPE, HE PUTS TOGETHER A GROUP OF MEN THAT WILL BUY ALL OF LORD FAIRFAX'S LAND THAT IS JUST SITTING HERE BECAUSE NOW THE WAR'S OVER. 
          THE KING NEEDS MONEY. 
          HE'S IN A WORLD WAR WITH FRANCE AND SPAIN. 
          AND SO WHAT HAPPENS? HE GETS MARSHALL PICKS MARSHALL AND MARSHALL CONDUCTS A SALE WITH THE KING OF ENGLAND TO PURCHASE THE LAND WE'RE STANDING ON TODAY FROM THE BRITISH EMPIRE. 
          180,000 ACRES OF LAND WAS PURCHASED. 
          EVERYTHING FROM THE BLUE RIDGE TO THE ALLEGHENY'S, 180,000 ACRES. 
          THIS WAS UNDISTRIBUTED LAND. 
          HE DID NOT BUY LAND OF FARMERS THAT HAD PURCHASED IT WHO WERE FARMING. 
          THIS WAS THE UNDISTRIBUTED LAND . 
          SO THE HISTORY OF THIS MAN IN THIS PROCESS, HE BECOMES SO WELL KNOWN THAT JOHN ADAMS NEEDS TO APPOINT SOMEONE TO A NEW JUDICIAL SYSTEM THAT'S BEEN PASSED BY CONGRESS. 
          AND YOU'RE GONNA LOVE THIS ONE. 
          THE DISTRICT COURT SYSTEM. 
          PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS PROBLEMS WITH DISTRICT COURT JUDGES ALL THE TIME. 
          HOW DO YOU FOLLOW IN THE NEWS? AND WHICH IS THE MOST CANTANKEROUS ONE? HE HAS PROBLEMS WITH THE DC JUDICIAL SYSTEM COURT SYSTEM. 
          AND THAT IS WHERE , I DON'T WANT TO CONNECT JOHN ADAMS AND ALL THESE GUYS WITH THE PRESIDENT. 
          I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT WHERE, UH, WHERE JOHN MARSHALL WAS APPOINTED, HE WAS APPOINTED THE FIRST DISTRICT COURT JUDGE OF THE UNITED STATES. 
          SO NOW I CAN TELL YOU, IF I WAS SITTING IN YOUR PLACE AND I WAS LISTENING TO ME, MY EYES WOULD BE GLAZING OVER BY THIS TIME. 
          AND SO WHAT I WANT TO DO, YOU ALL, YOU, YOU OWN 10 ACRES OF LAND RIGHT HERE ON THE EDGE OF TOWN, 10 ACRES. 
          SO WHAT YOU GONNA DO WITH IT? WHAT'S ITS PLAN? THIS IS A GRAVEYARD. 
          YOU DO NOT OWN THIS GRAVEYARD. 
          THIS IS THE MARSHALL GRAVEYARD, WHICH IS A PART OF WHAT WAS GIVEN TO THE COUNTY, THE FAMILY THAT OWNED THIS LAND. 
          IT WAS NOT MARSHALLS ANYMORE, GAVE THIS TO THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY GRACIOUSLY ACCEPTED IT. 
          I'M STANDING IN THE MARSHALL GRAVEYARD AT THE MARKER OF JAMES, THE BROTHER OF JOHN AND HIS WIFE HESTER MORRIS. 
          AND SHE IS THE DAUGHTER, SHE WAS THE DAUGHTER OF DEFENDANT SEWER OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. 
          ISN'T THAT SOMETHING? PERIOD, RIGHT HERE IN OUR COUNTY. 
          THIS IS A HOUSE THAT APPEARED IN AN ARTICLE WHEN THE LAND WAS TRANSFERRED, WHEN THE LAND WAS TRANSFERRED TO THE COUNTY. 
          YOU OWN THIS. 
          HAVE YOU BEEN UP THERE? HAS ANYONE BEEN THERE? I WAS THERE WHEN WE MARKED THE GRAVEYARD AND I WAS ALLOWED TO GO IN AND, AND LOOK AT BUILDINGS AND GO DOWN INTO BASEMENTS WITH A, A SNAKE THEN I DON'T LIKE SNAKES. 
          BUT YOU OWN THIS LAND AND YOU OWN THESE RUINS. 
          I AM TOLD THAT THIS WAS A MAGNIFICENT MATTER HOUSE 
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SECOND TO NONE ANY PLACE. 
          BUT IT BURNED TO THE LEFT IS THE ONLY KNOWN PICTURE LIKENESS OF JAMES MARSHALL THAT I CAN FIND TO THE RIGHT, THE LADY TO THE RIGHT IS HESTER OR HETTY. 
          THE LADY TO THE LEFT IS HER SISTER. 
          AND THIS PICTURE I AM TOLD HUNG IN THAT HOUSE UNTIL IT BURNED. 
          LET'S MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE. 
          LET'S MOVE ON NOW TO THE, TO THE APPALACHIAN TRAIL OR THE MACNUTT MOUNTAIN. 
          UM, UP ON THAT HILL. 
          AND YOU HAVE A PICTURE, YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF WHAT I GOT FROM A, A HIKER THAT THIS LOCATION RIGHT HERE IS WHERE GENERAL WASHINGTON WAS GOING TO RETREAT TO. 
          IF HE HAD BEEN DEFEATED DOWN IN THE OTHER PART OF OUR STATE, YORKTOWN, HE WAS GOING TO COME HERE, HE WAS GOING TO SET UP A FORTRESS SO THE REVOLUTION WOULD NOT DIE. 
          HIS FRIEND DANIEL MORGAN WAS GOING, WAS TRYING TO REHABILITATE A BACK. 
          HE HAD AN INJURED BACK. 
          AND THE WORD IS THAT HE TOLD MORGAN TO GO TO VALLEY. 
          TO THE VALLEY THAT'S NUTTON FORT VALLEY AND TO BEGIN BUILDING A FORTRESS. 
          NOW WHERE'S THE PICTURE, UH, OF THE ROAD THAT I GAVE THEM THE PICTURE? I GAVE YOU SOME PICS. 
          YOU HAVE PICTURES OF THE ROAD. 
          I'VE BEEN UP THERE. 
          I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WAS NOTHING TO THE STORY MANY YEARS AGO. 
          THE COUNTY NAMED A ROAD UP THERE CALLED DANIEL MORGAN'S ROAD. 
          AND UP THE WAY FROM THAT IS A ROAD THAT WAS BUILT BY SOMEONE WITH CRIBBAGE. 
          AND THESE ARE PICTURES THAT WERE TAKEN. 
          I DIDN'T TAKE THE PICTURES. 
          I WAS THERE. 
          A UH, AN OLD GUY WHO HIKES THAT TRAIL, TOOK THE PICTURES FOR ME AND SAID, LARRY, THESE ARE THE PICTURES OF THE, OF THE CRIBBING OF MORGANS ROAD. 
          NOW, WHOSE DISTRICT'S THAT IN? THAT'S YOUR DISTRICT, RIGHT? YES, I THINK IT IS. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          DID DID WE GET THE MAP OF THE YEAH. 
          OH, AND THIS IS, THIS IS A MARK IN THE SAR JUST PUT UP, UP AT DRY RUN CHRISTIAN CHURCH. 
          HOW MANY IS THAT? SEVEN GUYS THERE. 
          SEVEN, SEVEN MEN BURIED THAT WERE MEMBERS OF THAT CHURCH. 
          THEY FOUGHT AN AMERICAN REVOLUTION. 
          AND I ONLY SHOW YOU THAT TO EMPHASIZE THE HISTORY THAT WE HAVE. 
          AND SO YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE A DRAWING OF THIS AND, UH, RIGHT IN THIS CROOK. 
          I WISH I HAD A MARKER. 
          I COULD POINT THIS OUT. 
          BUT MORGANS ROAD IS JUST OVER THE LINE. 
          I BELIEVE IN YOUR, UH, YOUR DISTRICT, VICKY. 
          I'M NOT SURE. 
          I WOULDN'T SWEAR TO IT. 
          I'VE BEEN UP THERE AND I WALKED IT, BUT I CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE. 
          MY BACK WON'T LET ME DO IT, BUT IT'S THERE. 
          A FRIEND OF MINE WHO IS A HIKER, ROGER PEARSON, GREAT BOY SCOUTER TOLD ME ON THE PHONE JUST RECENTLY, AND HE SENT ME THIS PARTICULAR SKETCH OR DRAWING. 
          HE SAID, LARRY, IF THE BOARD WILL AGAIN DESIGNATE ZACH WORTH A PICTURE OF THE SIGN. 
          YEAH. 
          HERE, HERE WE GO. 
          HE SAYS, DESIGNATE THIS AGAIN AS A PART OF THE TWO 50TH CELEBRATION. 
          AND HE SAYS, I WILL SEE THAT DU BOIS SCOUTS BECOME INVOLVED WITH THE COUNTY. 
          AND THEY WOULD DO THINGS UP ON THAT TRAIL. 
          SO HERE, HERE'S THE CRIBBAGE, HERE'S THE ROAD. 
          HERE'S THE SIGN THAT WAS PUT THERE 50 YEARS AGO. 
          I'M ASKING YOU TO REFRESH THAT SIGN. 
          PUT ANOTHER SIGN UP. 
          IS THAT AT THE PARKING LOT? JUST UP THE HILL? JUST UP THE HILL FROM THE UP THE HILL. 
          YOU GOTTA GO UP THE HILL. 
          YEAH. 
          IS I, I'M NOT SURE. 
          I THINK THAT MIGHT BE MY DISTRICT. 
          YOUR DI WELL, WHOEVER, WHOEVER DISTRICTS IT IS. 
          YEAH, THAT LINE. 
          UH, WELL, I, I'M, I'VE, I'VE SURE CIRCUITED EVERYTHING I WANTED TO DO, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOOK, I I, MY WIFE TOLD ME TO SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP, SAID, LARRY, WHEN YOU GET TO A PLACE, SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP. 
          I MAY BE ABOUT THAT PLACE. 
          SO 
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THESE ARE THE DISTRICTS. 
          OKAY? THIS GOES BACK, YOU MIGHT SEE YOUR, BE ABLE TO FIGURE IT OUT, WHICH DISTRICT IS IN, BUT IT IS IN, IT IS IN WARREN COUNTY. 
          AND THERE'S THE MAN THAT WAS ASKED TO TAKE TROOPS UP. 
          AND SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL, WHERE'D HE GET THE HELP FROM? WHERE'D HE GET THE LABOR TO BUILD THAT IN HIS RECOVERY? AND RECUPERATION, WASHINGTON WAS SENDING MORGAN, ALL THE GERMANS THAT WERE CAPTURED FROM THE BRITISH, THE HESSIANS. 
          AND WE HAD HUNDREDS IN THIS AREA THAT WERE CAPTIVES. 
          AND SO MORGAN SAID, I'M GONNA PUT 'EM TO WORK. 
          WELL, HE PUT 'EM TO WORK BUILDING THINGS UP IN WINCHESTER. 
          HE PUT 'EM TO WORK BUILDING HIS OWN HOUSE. 
          AND I THINK HE PUT 'EM TO WORK BUILDING THAT ROAD. 
          AND THERE IS A HISTORIAN THAT I HAVE AN OLD TIME HISTORIAN, THE RENOWNED HISTORIAN OF, UH, OF THE VALLEY CONFIRMS. AND I'M SATISFIED THAT MORGAN AND THE PRISONERS BUILT THAT ROAD. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME? AND THIS IS A FAMOUS PAINTING WITH, UH, AND THAT ROCK IS STILL THERE. 
          YOU CAN GO UP, YOU CAN OVERLOOK SEVEN, SEVEN BINS THAT DEPICTS WASHINGTON AS A YOUNG SURVEYOR. 
          AND OF COURSE, THE LAST THING IS THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE S SLANG OF OUR NAMESAKE. 
          COMES UP IN ON THE 17TH. 
          HE WAS BORN ON THE 11TH. 
          HE WAS KILLED ON THE 17TH OF JUNE AT BUNKER HILL. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED. 
          I THINK THE SAR IS GONNA COME AND FIRE MUSKETS HERE, BUT THIS SHOULD BE A REAL CELEBRATION. 
          NOW WHAT ABOUT THE STATUE? I WAS SENT A PICTURE OF THIS STATUE. 
          I ASKED FOR IT FROM WARREN OHIO. 
          WARREN OHIO STARTED LAST YEAR FIGURING OUT WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO TO HONOR THEIR NAMESAKE. 
          THEY HAD CONTACTED THE, UH, JOSEPH WARREN FOUNDATION DOWN IN, UH, WILLIAMSBURG AND THE FOUNDATION THAT SAID DOWN THERE, CONTACT WARREN COUNTY US AND GIVE SOME IDEAS AS TO WHAT THEY'VE DONE. 
          NOW WHAT HAVE WE DONE FOR JO JOSEPH WARREN, YOUR PREDECESSORS. 
          I THINK SOME OF YOU WERE ON THE BOARD THAT TIME. 
          WERE YOU SURE? WE ON THE BOARD, YOU APPROVED AND RECOMMENDED THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PLAQUE. 
          I FOUND THE MONEY AND PAID FOR IT, BUT YOU HAD TO MAKE SURE IT WAS BUILT PROPERLY AND TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THAT. 
          IT WAS BUILT SOMEWHERE THAT A GREAT MANUFACTURER WHO BUILDS MUSEUM QUALITY. 
          IT'S RIGHT OUTSIDE THE DOOR. 
          BUT YOUR LEADERSHIP SAW TO IT THAT THE BOARD OF EDUCATION GOT A PLAQUE IN EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL. 
          THERE'S A PLAQUE IN THE COURTHOUSE. 
          THERE'S A PLAQUE HERE, THERE'S A PLAQUE IN, DO I DARE SAY THE LIBRARY IN THE, WHERE'S ANOTHER PLAQUE? THERE'S ANOTHER PLAQUE. 
          WELL, I CAN'T REMEMBER ALL THOSE PLAQUES. 
          13. 
          WE DISTRIBUTED. 
          NOW THEY WANTED TO DO ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING DOWN HERE WITH THE BOARD OF EDUCATION AND THEY ADDED A DIMENSION TO IT. 
          THEY WANT A STATUTE. 
          THIS IS THEIR CLAY MODEL OF, UH, JOSEPH WARREN THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETE IN ABOUT A MONTH. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, THEY HAVE, IT'S BEEN CAST AND, AND I JUST SHOW IT TO YOU TO SHOW WE GIVE LEADERSHIP WE CAN'T AFFORD. 
          IT COSTS $180,000 TO GET A STATUE, BUT WE CAN START A LITTLE FUND. 
          COULDN'T WE SAVING OUR MONEY? AND WHO LAUGHED AT THAT? SOMEBODY LAUGHED AT THAT. 
          YOU LAUGHED AT, WHAT'S YOUR NAME? REBECCA. 
          HI, REBECCA. 
          HI. 
          SO WE, YOUR PRESENTATION, I BEG YOUR PARDON? I'M ENJOYING YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          WELL, PLEASE WRITE ME A NOTE. 
          SO MY LI MY WIFE WILL LET ME IN. 
          'CAUSE SHE, I GOT A BIG PROBLEM WITH HER. 
          SHE SAYS I TALK TOO MUCH, I TALK MORE TOO MUCH. 
          AND SHE SAYS, WHEN YOU THINK YOU'RE HALF DONE QUIT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO, UM, DO YOU HAVE QUESTION? DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF ME? SO THAT'S IT. 
          THERE'S FOUR THINGS I WANT TO ASK YOU TO DO. 
          NOW, THERE'S SOME OTHER STUFF THAT, THERE'S SOME OTHER STUFF I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU TO DO. 
          I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO REVISE THE NAME OF THIS BUILDING, NOT JUST A WARREN COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING. 
          I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO PUT DR. JOSEPH WARREN'S ADMINISTRATION BUILDING. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW IT, 
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THAT COST. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GOTTA DO TO DO IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT. 
          I REALLY WOULD. 
          SOMEDAY I'D LIKE TO SEE A STATUE OUT THERE. 
          BUT THAT, THAT, THAT'S FOR ANOTHER DAY. 
          AND HIS, UH, HIS DEATH DATE AND BIRTH DATE TO COME IN THE 11TH IS HIS BIRTH DATE. 
          17TH OF JUNE. 
          HE WAS KILLED. 
          AND, UM, BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S A REQUEST I WANT TO, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND IF YOU'VE READ THIS RESOLUTION THAT I WROTE, UH, ON, UH, JAMES MARSHALL, I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO TAKE IT ONE STEP FURTHER THAN THAT. 
          I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE COURTHOUSE AND I DO NOT KNOW THE POLITICS. 
          I'D LIKE TO SEE THE COURTHOUSE DOWNTOWN OR HERE NAME FOR JAMES MARSHALL. 
          AND IF WE CAN GET SOMEBODY TO PAY $3,000, I'D LIKE TO SEE A HISTORICAL MARKER, PROBABLY GO DOWN ON THAT COURTHOUSE GROUND SAYING WHO THIS MAN WAS. 
          HE JOINED THE REVOLUTION AS A, AS A CHILD, AND HE FOUGHT AND HE BECAME A GENERAL, AND HE BECAME THE FIRST JUDGE OF OUR DISTRICT COURTS. 
          WHAT MORE CAN YOU DO IN THIS LIFE TO, TO SERVE YOUR COUNTRY? ANY, ANYBODY GOT QUESTIONS? LORD HAVE MERCY. 
          EVERYBODY STILL AWAKE? OKAY. 
          YEAH, I GOT MY GLASSES HERE. 
          WELL, I I, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. 
          I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO GIVE SOME CONSIDERATION TO ESTABLISHING THE JAMES MARSHALL, UH, FOUNDATION TO HELP RESTORE THE LAND THAT YOU OWN. 
          THE 10 ACRES. 
          DO SOMETHING WITH THAT LAND. 
          UH, NOT, I DON'T MEAN BUILD ON THAT. 
          I MEAN, RESTORE AND MAKE IT A HISTORICAL, UH, PLACE OF VISITATION. 
          WE HAVE SO MANY PLACES THAT CAN BE VISITED. 
          WE HAVE THE TRAIL THAT DU BOIS SCOUTS ARE WAITING FOR YOUR, FOR YOU TO DO SOMETHING. 
          GIVE 'EM A SECOND. 
          ARE YOU GOING TO GO AHEAD AND RE CONSECRATE THAT AS A PART OF THE CELEBRATION? GOOD. 
          IF YOU ARE. 
          AND, UM, AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. 
          I THINK AT THIS POINT I'LL, ANYTHING ELSE I SAY, I'LL BE REPEATING MYSELF, BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY. 
          GOOD LORD, NO QUESTIONS. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO THANK, UH, ED FOR MAKING THIS POSSIBLE. 
          AND ZACH, WHO'S BEEN JUST WONDERFUL AND, AND, AND PUT, PUT THESE, PUT THESE PICTURES TOGETHER HERE. 
          SO, UM, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT MINUTE DO YOU HAVE? MY PINK BULLET? THIS PINK. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU HEARD SOME REQUESTS? I MADE NAME OF THE COURTHOUSE PUTTING A MARKER AT THE GRAVEYARD VOTE FOR THE RESOLUTION TO NAME THE FIRST BRIDGE COMING INTO THE TOWN FOR MARSHALL. 
          AND THEN LET'S PUT A HISTORICAL MARKER UP FOR TOURISTS TO SEE THAT POINTS TO THE TRAIL WHERE WASHINGTON WAS GOING TO RETREAT TO. 
          HE WAS ASKED WHY HE CHOSE THIS, THIS PLACE PARTICULARLY. 
          AND HE SAID, I KNOW THE PEOPLE. 
          I KNOW THE PEOPLE. 
          AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO PULL A TRIGGER AS LONG AS THEY HAVE A BREATH. 
          IT'S ABOUT OUR PEOPLE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU BISHOP JOHNSON. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          NEXT 
          [F. Discussion - Comments on County Administrator Recruitment Brochure]
ON OUR AGENDA IS A DISCUSSION OR, UH, COMMENT, COMMENTS ON THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR RECRUIT RECRUITMENT BROCHURE. 
          WELL, I READ IT AND IT WAS FINE. 
          UM, I DO KNOW THAT WE NEED TO COME UP WITH THIS DECISION TONIGHT IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE RECRUITER TO GET THE, UM, BROCHURE PUBLISHED TO MEET OUR SCHEDULE. 
          'CAUSE I REMEMBER IT WAS LAST WEEK WHEN HE CAME, OR THE WEEK BEFORE THE DATE THAT I ASKED FOR 
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OF WHEN HE NEEDED A DECISION FROM US AS FAR AS THE SALARY RATE ARRANGE WAS TODAY. 
          SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE FORM TO DO THAT, BUT, UM, UH, JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WHERE I STAND IS, I THINK THE BROCHURE, THE BROCHURE WAS FINE. 
          AND, UM, THE, THE SALARY RATE, I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT IT AT MAYBE AT THE TOP OF 200 K. 
          WELL, I, I KNOW THAT, UH, UH, DR. 
          DALEY AND I HAD, HAD DISCUSSED THAT, UH, THIS MORNING. 
          AND I THINK THAT THE, THE, THE SALARY RANGE WAS, WAS, YOU KNOW, PRETTY GOOD. 
          I THINK IT WAS REASONABLE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WELL, WHATEVER THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, THINKS IT'S REASONABLE IS FINE WITH ME. 
          I JUST THINK THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD NOT WAIT ANY LONGER IN GETTING A, UM, A POSITION OUT TO THE RECRUITER SO THEY CAN CONTINUE. 
          RICH. 
          UH, I, I KIND OF THINK OF 200,000 FOR, FOR THIS REGION. 
          SEEMS REASONABLE TO BE ABLE TO TRACK IT. 
          I, I'M, IT'S NOT A HUGE TIPPING POINT. 
          I THINK IT'S, I, I'D SUPPORT THAT. 
          DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE, UH, JUST A FEW THINGS. 
          UM, SOME SMALL DETAILS. 
          I, I THINK THAT, UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE AN EMPHASIS, MORE EMPHASIS ON, UM, COMMUNICATION SKILLS, UH, FINANCIAL SKILLS, UH, DELINEATED SPECIFICALLY. 
          UM, I THINK THAT THERE, THE, THE LANGUAGE OF PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SECTOR EXPERIENCE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE SO AS NOT TO UNDULY NARROW THE, THE FIELD, UM, I THINK SPECIFYING PARTICULAR DEGREES OR I THINK A BACHELOR'S DEGREES IS A OBVIOUS AND NECESSARY REQUIREMENT. 
          UM, BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT, UH, NAMING DEGREES AS SUCH AS IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, UH, AS NECESSARILY, UH, A GOOD THING. 
          UM, UH, LET'S SEE. 
          SO YEAH, I'VE JUST INDICATED SOME THINGS LIKE ABOUT, ABOUT, UH, BEING ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE PROGRESSIVELY INCREASING RESPONSIBILITIES AND CHALLENGING ROLES. 
          ESSENTIALLY, I, I HOPE TO HAVE, UH, ABILITY TO GET A, SOMEBODY WHO'S, WHO'S ON AN UP FOR TRAJECTORY, UH, IN THEIR CAREER AND HAS, HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT, UM, RATHER THAN SOMEBODY WHO'S GONNA MOVING SIDEWAYS AND JUST A LITTLE BIT UP, UM, THAT'S BASICALLY ALL THE COMMENTS I HAD. 
          OKAY. 
          CHERYL? THE, UM, THE QUALIFICATIONS. 
          YOU KNOW, I, I WANT THEM TO BE A HIGH LEVEL. 
          I WANT WHOEVER'S COMING IN THIS TO HAVE, UM, SOME ROLE IN, BECAUSE LOCAL GOVERNMENT VERSUS PRIVATE BUSINESS IS A BIG DIFFERENCE. 
          AND I THINK WHOEVER COMES INTO THIS NEEDS TO HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE THERE. 
          UM, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THIS, THIS COUNTY IS IN, UM, HAS BEEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, UM, IN SOME CHALLENGING WATERS. 
          AND WE NEED SOMEBODY THAT HAS SOME EXPERTISE IN, IN GOVERNMENT, FINANCES, THE WHOLE THING, UM, TO BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THESE WATERS. 
          UM, DEFINITELY FINANCE AND, UH, BUDGET EXPERIENCE ARE IMPORTANT. 
          UM, I DID, UH, READ THROUGH IT AND REDLINE DIVERSION THAT I SENT TO SCOTT WITH A FEW WORDSMITHS, UH, MOSTLY MINOR THINGS, UM, COUPLE PLACES I THOUGHT THEY WERE OVERSELLING THE, THE COUNTY BY GETTING FAR AWAY TO PLACES LIKE THE BLUE RIDGE PARKWAY AND, AND THINGS. 
          I, I STRUCK THAT. 
          UM, BUT IT WAS MOSTLY, UH, TYPOGRAPHICAL AND WORDSMITHING. 
          UM, AND, UH, I DID, I'M OPEN TO, UH, GOVERNMENT, CORPORATE, OR MILITARY EXPERIENCE AS LONG AS IT'S SUFFICIENTLY HIGH, HIGH QUALITY. 
          UM, BUT I, I DO THINK THAT THAT, UH, SKILL WITH THE, UM, THE BUDGET AND THE FINANCE ASPECT AS WELL AS THE ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND OF COURSE COMMUNICATIONS, ALL OF THOSE ARE IMPORTANT. 
          UM, 
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SO, SO THEN I, I, I GUESS A GOOD WAY TO BE, BE ABLE TO APPROACH THAT WOULD BE TO SAY THAT, UH, PUBLIC, PRIVATE, UH, PRIVATE SECTOR OR MILITARY, UH, YOU KNOW, IS, IS UH, WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, GOOD EXPERIENCE, BUT PREFER TO HAVE, UH, THE PUBLIC EXPERIENCE. 
          SO, SO WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE SAYING, OKAY, WELL THESE THINGS ARE GOOD, BUT WE PREFER THIS. 
          SO IF YOU GOT CANDIDATES OUT THERE THAT, UH, ONE HAS THE PUBLIC EXPERIENCE, THE OTHER ONE HAS SAY LIKE MILITARY EXPERIENCE, YOU'D PREFER THE ONE OVER WITH THE PUBLIC EXPERIENCE. 
          I WOULDN'T GO THAT FAR. 
          NO. 
          THIS THE BEST QUALIFIED PERSON. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, IF, UH, IF THE PERSON IS QUALIFIED, WHO COULD, WHO'S HAS MILITARY EXPERIENCE COMPARED TO ANOTHER QUALIFIED PERSON THAT JUST HAS PUB UH, GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY GONNA COME DOWN, IN MY OPINION IS HOW LONG, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'VE DONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          THE MILITARY PERSON MAY HAVE, HAVE MANAGED A, A BILLION DOLLAR PORTFOLIO FOR THE GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WEIGH OUT DURING INTERVIEWS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          BUT I WOULDN'T TAKE ONE OVER THE OTHER, BUT, YOU KNOW, SURE. 
          THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. 
          DO DO WE HAVE THE FEEDBACK THAT, UH, THAT WE NEED OR, WELL, MR. STEINMEYER, UM, AS HE MENTIONED THERE DID TAKE A LOOK AT THE DRAFT PROFILE THAT THEY SENT YOU MM-HMM . 
          AND MARKED UP VARIOUS THINGS, WHICH TO MAKE SUGGESTIONS BACK THERE. 
          AND IF YOU SENT YOUR SUGGESTIONS AND YOUR MARKUPS, WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE CORRECTED THERE BACK TO SCOTT, THEN HE CAN GET THAT IN. 
          UH, ZACH HAS GONE THROUGH IT FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE, AND WE'RE GONNA GET HIM SOME PHOTOS OUT THIS WEEK TO DO THAT. 
          AND THEN IF YOU TAKE CARE OF THAT PART OF IT AND SEND IT BACK TO SCOTT INDIVIDUALLY, THEN HE'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK WITH. 
          IF Y'ALL COULD DO THAT WITHIN THE NEXT DAY OR TWO, I'D APPRECIATE IT IN THAT WAY. 
          IT KEEP, IT CAN KEEP US ON THE TIMELINE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'VE ALREADY SENT MY COMMENTS TO HIM. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING IT WITH THE FULL COLOR BROCHURE, WITH PICTURES. 
          UM, I WAS KIND OF EXPECTING THAT THE FIRST TIME, SO IT WAS A, ANYTHING ELSE ON THE RECRUITMENT BROCHURE? NOPE. 
          RICH? NOPE. 
          OKAY. 
          CHERYL? OH, ONE OTHER COMMENT AS TO THE SALARY RANGE. 
          I'M, I'M FINE WITH IT. 
          I, IT, IT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 10, 10,000 BAND DIFFERENCE. 
          UH, SO I'M NOT GONNA BE A STICKLER ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, SO FINALLY 
          [G. Discussion - FY 2026 Budget]
ON, UH, ON OUR, UH, AGENDA IS THE DISCUSSION OF THE FY 2026 BUDGET. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          WE'RE GONNA GET THE PEOPLE WHO'VE PUT THIS TOGETHER TO COME UP HERE AND, UH, HELP WITH WHAT WE HAVE IS THAT, UM, SO WE'RE GONNA START, UH, WE'RE GONNA FOCUS TONIGHT ON THE, UH, GENERAL FUND NOT FIRING US. 
          WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON GENERAL FUND. 
          UH, BACK IT UP ONE. 
          NOW GO TO THE GENERAL FUND THERE. 
          SO THIS YEAR'S CURRENT GENERAL FUND, REMEMBER WAS ORIGINALLY APPROXIMATELY 97 AND A HALF MILLION MRS. SCOTT. 
          AND THEN IN THE AMENDMENTS WE TOOK THE SOCIAL SERVICES AND COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMUNITY CHILD ACT AWAY FROM THAT AND PUT IT IN ITS OWN SEPARATE FUND. 
          SO IT MAKES, TOOK OUR CONTRIBUTION THERE DOWN TO 94,100,000. 
          UH, THIS YEAR'S BUDGET PROPOSED IS 93,440,000. 
          THAT'S A DIFFERENCE OF $652,000. 
          UH, DROP OF ABOUT ALMOST SEVEN TENTHS OF 1%. 
          NOW, IF YOU TAKE THE GENERAL FUND AND BREAK IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, IF SO, WHAT ABOUT 2024? YOU WILL HAVE ALL OF THOSE TO LOOK AT WHEN WE GET THROUGH THIS AND YOU CAN TAKE 'EM ALL HOME AND LOOK AT 'EM FOR WEEKS, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          AS LONG AS YOU DON'T FORGET 2024. 
          THIS IS JUST, THIS IS JUST THE HIGHLIGHTS. 
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OKAY, VERY GOOD. 
          SO THE SCHOOL TRANSFER, WE'RE PROPOSING AN INCREASE OF $750,000, UH, 2.6% SOCIAL SERVICES AND CSA THAT IS DOWN A LITTLE BIT. 
          REMEMBER LAST YEAR WE RAN INTO A LOT OF COSTS AND WE MOVED THAT OVER TO SOCIAL SERVICES AND NEW, UH, ADMINISTRATOR THERE AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'LL BE DOWN ABOUT 300,000 NEXT YEAR. 
          SO THAT'S ABOUT AN 8% DROP. 
          THE SCHOOL DEBT IS DOWN ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, WHEREAS THE COUNTY DEBT IS ACTUALLY UP ABOUT 101,000 RATHER. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          AND THOSE NUMBERS JUST COME OFF YOUR REGULAR BOND PORTFOLIO IS THE, IS THE MATH ON THE SCHOOL DEBT, RIGHT? FROM UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S AN EXTRA NINE UP THERE, SIR, TO ME. 
          WE'LL GO BACK AND CHECK THAT, BUT IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THERE MIGHT BE AN EXTRA NINE. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, IT SHOULD BE 9,000. 
          YEAH, THAT, THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IS 9,000. 
          I THINK THERE'S AN EXTRA ONE IN THERE. 
          I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          UH, THAT LEAVES THE NET OF OPERATIONS AT THE COUNTY. 
          UH, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAPPENS THERE DROPS ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS MILLION 6,000, UH, 2.1%. 
          AND AS WE'LL SEE IN HERE, THAT DROP IS DIVIDED BETWEEN OPERATIONS AND CAPITAL AND ASSETS. 
          IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD, I'LL GET LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MEALS TAX. 
          SO WE THOUGHT WE'D WALK THROUGH THIS ONE FOR YOU FOR A LITTLE BIT. 
          UH, THE ESTIMATE IN THE NEW BUDGET THAT YOU WILL SEE IS 1.4 MILLION 4 20 25. 
          WE PAY THE TOWN 342,000 BASED ON THAT 1.4 THAT LEAVES 1,000,050 8,000 FOR SCHOOL DEBT. 
          AND THE TALK WAS, WELL, THIS IS ALL SCHOOL CAPITAL, ET CETERA. 
          SO IF YOU TAKE THE SCHOOL DEBT OF 1 MILLION OR $10,900,000, ALMOST 11 MILLION THERE, AND YOU SUBTRACT THE MILLION FROM THE MEALS TAX, THEN THE PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE SCHOOL DEBT IS NINE. 
          SCHOOL CAPITAL PROJECTS IS 9.9 MILLION. 
          THAT GOES TO SCHOOL DEBT. 
          SO THERE'S, YOU'RE QUITE A BIT AHEAD THERE. 
          THERE'S NOTHING, THERE'S NO SECRET MONEY THERE THAT CAN SUDDENLY BE TAKEN FOR A SCHOOL CAPITAL PROJECT OR ANYTHING. 
          TAKING A LOOK AT THE REVENUE, JUST IN THE SUMMARY YOU'LL SEE AT ABOUT 75% COMES FROM GENERAL PROPERTY TAXES, ALMOST, UM, 60 40 SPLIT MRS. SCOTT BETWEEN, UH, REAL ESTATE AND PERSONAL PROPERTY'S A LITTLE BIT. 
          THIS OTHER, UH, LOCAL TAXES PRIMARILY, UH, HALF OF THAT IS UH, SALES TAX ACTS. 
          AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER LOCAL REVENUES THAT LITTLE 3%, THERE'S THE CHARGES FOR SERVICES AND THAT 6% IN THE PURPLE AND THAT CHARGES INCIDENTALLY, THE LARGE PIECE IN THAT IS GONNA BE THE, UH, REFUSE FEES IS WHAT THOSE ARE. 
          AND THE 6%, THAT PURPLE THERE, THAT'S GONNA BE INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE. 
          THAT'S YOUR STATE COMPENSATION FOR THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS LITTLE BIT OF STATE GRANT MONEY AND AN EVEN MUCH SMALLER AMOUNT, ABOUT A HUNDRED THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED THIRTY 6,000 MA'AM. 
          RIGHT? THAT'S IN THERE FOR, UH, FEDERAL FUNDING. 
          NOW THAT CHANGES WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CHARTS ACROSS, WHEN YOU TAKE ALL THIS TO STUDY, YOU'LL SEE HOW THAT DROPS DRAMATICALLY IN THE FEDERAL, BECAUSE WE HAD ALL THAT C ARPA MONEY IN THERE IN 20 AND 21 AND 22, AND EVEN SOME LEFT IN 23 AND 24. 
          AND THAT'LL BE A BIG DROP THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THERE. 
          EXPENDITURES, UH, YOU'LL SEE THE BIG ONE THERE IS, UM, SCHOOLS AND DEBT. 
          THEY'RE 43% OF YOUR DOLLAR. 
          ABOUT 25% OF YOUR DOLLAR IS PUBLIC SAFETY PRIMARILY. 
          UM, UH, FIRE AND RESCUE IN THE SHERIFF'S 
          [01:05:01]
OFFICE. 
          IS THE JAIL IN THERE, MR. HENDERSON? THE JAIL IS NOT IN THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THAT OVER A JUDICIAL? OKAY, SO WHEN WE GET OVER TO JUDICIAL, UP THERE IN THAT GREEN SLICE, THAT LITTLE ONE THAT HAS YOUR REGIONAL JAIL IN IT, THE NEXT THING AFTER PUBLIC SAFETY IS PUBLIC WORKS. 
          UH, AGAIN, PRIMARILY THAT'S THE FEES AT THE LANDFILL, THAT'S THE COST EXPENSES OUT THERE AND THE TRANSFER STATION. 
          AND THEN COMMUNITY SERVICES, THAT INCLUDES SOCIAL SERVICES, THE WARREN COUNTY LIBRARY AND THE, UM, RECREATION. 
          THEY'RE ALL IN THERE. 
          UM, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS MAKE, SIR, WHAT DOES FINANCIAL MEAN? THAT'S YOUR FINANCE OFFICE, THAT'S YOUR FINANCE, YOUR TREASURER OR YOUR COMMISSIONER OF THE REVENUE, ALL OF YOUR FINANCE RELATED OFFICES. 
          SO THOSE TWO COLORS, UM, JUDICIAL AND FINANCIAL. 
          SO WHICH ONE IS 3% AND WHICH ONE IS 2%? THEY'RE, THEY'RE SO CLOSE AND CO THE FINANCIAL, THE JUDICIAL WOULD BE THREE AND THE FINANCIAL WOULD BE TWO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU WILL HAVE ALL OF THE, ALL THE WAY AROUND. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU THINK IT'S THE OTHER WAY? YEAH. 
          JUDICIAL IS THREE, 3% IS THE DARK GREEN. 
          SO THAT'S, UM, THE FINANCIAL AND THE JUDICIAL IS THE LIGHTER GREEN AT 2%. 
          OKAY. 
          2%. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BUT YOU'LL SEE ALL OF THE, HOW THEY MATCH UP WITH YOUR CHARTS WHEN YOU GET THEM. 
          TALK ABOUT CIP. 
          SO WE WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND AS TO WHAT CAPITAL PROJECTS, UM, HAVE COME OUT OF THIS FISCAL YEAR AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO THE REQUEST FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR. 
          SO IN FY 25, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, WE'RE WORKING ON THE NORTH WARREN FIRE STATION ENHANCEMENTS. 
          UM, AND THEN THE CANCER PREVENTION PROGRAM. 
          WE'VE ISSUED, UM, TURNOUT GEAR AND THEN WASHERS AND DRYERS FOR THE EQUIPMENT. 
          UM, THOSE CAME UNDER THE CANCER PROTECTION, UM, THROUGH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND THEN THE PLUM EVENT SYSTEM INSTALLATION AND ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ALSO CAME THROUGH, UM, PARTIALLY OUT OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND THEN PARTIALLY UNDER THE SLUR FUNDS. 
          UM, SO WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE COST FOR BOTH OF THOSE. 
          THERE IS SOME REPAIR WORK BEING DONE IN LINDEN AND THAT'S ALSO UNDER THE FIRE STATION ENHANCEMENT. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE A RESERVE FUND, THE FIRE STATION DEVELOPMENT THAT WE PUT $50,000 IN IN ORDER TO PREPARE FOR FUTURE EXPENSES. 
          UM, I THINK EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF THE S UNIT AND THE LITTLE OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLAR PRICE TAG THAT IS STILL UNDER DEVELOPMENT CURRENTLY. 
          WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE IT INSTALLED THE END OF JUNE, EARLY PART OF JULY. 
          UM, THE SENIOR CENTER, THE UM, PIPES IN THE KITCHEN COLLAPSED AND THEY HAD TO, TO RIP OUT THE ENTIRE FLOORING AND REPLACE ALL OF THE PIPES. 
          THAT WAS, UM, CLOSE TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          AND THEN RECENTLY WE HAD ANOTHER PIPE ISSUE IN THE COURTHOUSE. 
          UM, SO, SO FAR WE'RE UP TO $29,000. 
          WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ALL OF THE FINAL BILLS ON THAT. 
          UM, WITH BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS, OF COURSE THINGS HAPPEN WITH BUILDINGS. 
          SO, SO FAR THIS YEAR WE'VE SPENT $58,000. 
          UM, AND THEN THE OLD OAK, UM, FOUR PROJECT, THE COUNTY'S CONTRIBUTION TO THAT PROJECT IS $250,000. 
          UM, AND THAT IS A THREE-WAY FUNDING, UM, PROJECT. 
          AND THEN INDIAN HOLLOW, THIS WAS RESIDUAL, UM, BILLING THAT CAME IN FOR THAT PROJECT THAT HIT FY 25. 
          AND THAT IS PAID FOR OUT OF THE TOURISM DOLLARS. 
          SO FOR 25, WE'VE SPENT OVER MIL $2 MILLION IN CAPITAL PROJECTS SO FAR THIS YEAR FOR FY 26. 
          THESE ARE THE REQUEST FOR THE YEAR AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY TWO PAGES OF REQUEST. 
          UM, AND I HAVE A STATUS, KIND OF AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY AT WITH EACH PROJECT. 
          SO THE GENERATOR FOR ELECTIONS, WE, UM, THE ESTIMATE WAS $75,000. 
          WE FIGURED OUT AN ALTERNATE SOLUTION FOR THAT. 
          SO IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, UM, THEY WOULD NOT ACTUALLY NEED A GENERATOR, THEY COULD GO TO ANOTHER BUILDING. 
          SO WE'RE ABLE TO ELIMINATE THAT PROJECT. 
          UM, FOR FIRE AND RESCUE AGAIN, UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FUNDING FOR FIRE STATION ENHANCEMENTS. 
          UM, THE REQUEST WAS $150,000 AND IT HAS BEEN REDUCED TO $50,000 FOR, UM, FY 26 BUDGET AND IT'S CURRENTLY IN THE DRAFTED BUDGET. 
          SO IF YOU GO THROUGH CLEAR GOV, IT IS LISTED IN THERE. 
          UM, FOR 
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CANCER PREVENTION MEASURES, UM, AGAIN, THIS ORIGINAL ASK FOR $250,000 HAS BEEN REDUCED TO $50,000 IN FY 20 SIX'S BUDGET. 
          UM, FOR BUILDINGS AND GROUND, THERE WERE GROUNDS, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR, UM, ASPHALT MAINTENANCE THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE COUNTY OWNED PROPERTIES. 
          UM, THAT PROJECT IS ON HOLD, SO IT'LL BE PUSHED TO A FUTURE YEAR. 
          UM, THE GOVERNMENT CENTER ROOF REPLACEMENT, UM, AGAIN, A MILLION AND A HALF THAT IS ON HOLD. 
          SO WE WILL PUSH IT TO A FUTURE YEAR, UM, FOR THE TRANSFER STATION IN ORDER TO HAVE THE SCALE REPLACED. 
          AND THEN THE SELF SOFTWARE UPDATE, IT'S UM, AN INITIAL INVESTMENT OF $200,000 AND THAT PROJECT IS ALSO GONNA BE PUT ON HOLD UNTIL THE FUTURE YEAR WITH THE WASTE STATION. 
          UM, IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH, WE ARE HAVING AN INFLUX OF BASICALLY HOW WE HANDLE TRASH. 
          UM, IN ORDER TO REDUCE IT, WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING A BULK GRINDER, UM, AND BUILDING IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO MANAGE THAT WHOLE UM, PROJECT. 
          SO THE $50,000 IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG FOR THAT PROJECT. 
          UM, IT WILL BE PUSHED OUT UNTIL FUTURE YEARS. 
          UM, THE COURTHOUSE CLOCK AND FACADE. 
          UM, I THINK DURING THE BUILDING COMMITTEE MEETING, UM, THE TWO BOARD MEMBERS WHO WERE A PART OF IT WERE ABLE TO SEE KIND OF THE ROTTEN DETERIORATION THAT'S HAPPENING. 
          SINCE IT IS A HISTORIC STRUCTURE, THERE ARE CERTAIN PARAMETERS AS TO HOW TO HANDLE IT. 
          UM, THE COST IS ALMOST A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS AND THAT IS ALSO ON HOLD FOR A FUTURE FISCAL YEAR. 
          THE UM, STREET THAT WE OWN ON SECOND STREET, UM, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO LOOK AT HOW WE COULD REPAIR IT TO GET IT INTO A STATUS TO BE ABLE TO RENT OUT. 
          IT'S SOMETHING THAT'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON WITH OUR STAFF INTERNALLY. 
          THROUGHOUT FY 26, UM, IN ORDER TO HOPEFULLY GET IT TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN RENT IT. 
          HOWEVER, UM, WE'RE NOT, THERE WILL BE SOME COST PROBABLY IN FY 27. 
          UM, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT ON THE, THE SHORT LIST. 
          UM, FOR IT, THEY HAD REQUESTED A GENERATOR FOR THIS BUILDING. 
          UM, AND IT IS A SPECIALIZED GENERATOR THAT WOULD FOCUS SIMPLY ON THE SERVERS. 
          SO THE SERVERS FROM THIS BUILDING, UM, ARE BACKUP FOR THE SERVERS AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, AND WE NEED THAT REDUNDANCY. 
          AND THEY ALSO COMMUNICATE WITH THE TOWN. 
          UM, SO THE GENERATOR WOULD BASICALLY SUPPORT THE SERVERS AND THE IT DEPARTMENT, BUT THE OTHER AREAS OF THE BUILDING, IF SOMETHING HAPPENED, WOULD BE SHUT DOWN. 
          UM, IN ORDER TO CONTROL THE COST, UM, WE DO FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL RESEARCH ON THAT PROJECT. 
          SO, UM, IT WOULD BE PUSHED BACK TO 27 WHILE WE GET THROUGH THE FULL SCOPE OF IT. 
          UM, SO THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS GOING TO COST. 
          THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS REQUESTED, UM, THE RM, THE RECORDS, RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, THE MOTOROLA FLEX, AND THE SHERIFF WILL SPEAK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THAT TONIGHT. 
          WE ARE ACTUALLY PROPOSING TO PULL IT FORWARD. 
          UM, SO, AND SHE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FUNDING IN ORDER TO HAVE THE INITIAL FUNDING COME FROM FY 25 RATHER THAN, UM, BUDGET AND FY 26. 
          SO WHEN YOU, SO WHEN YOU SAY PROPOSING TO SHIFT TO SHIFT FORWARD, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE JUST SAYING USING $25 NOW, CORRECT? NOT NOT TAKING THE MONEY AND MOVING IT TO 26 BUDGET? NO, IT WOULD BE BECAUSE WHEN ENCUMBERING IT AND EITHER SIGNING A CONTRACT IN JUNE OR JULY, UM, WE'RE NOT SURE. 
          UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHE'LL BE ABLE TO SPEAK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I, WHAT I SEE FORWARD, I'M LIKE, OH, THAT SECTION. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          UM, FOR PARKS AND RECREATION, THE POOL RESURFACING, UM, WE THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE SOME, AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING INTO SOME CAPITAL DOLLARS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THE PROJECT. 
          UM, WE GOT A UPDATED BID ON IT. 
          HOWEVER, THE TIMELINE WOULD DELAY THE POOL OPENING BY ABOUT THREE WEEKS. 
          SO WE OPTED TO BASICALLY WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE SUMMER SEASON AND IN THE FALL WHEN THEY DRAIN THE POOL, WE COULD THEN DEAL WITH RESURFACING THE POOL AT THAT POINT. 
          UM, THE ROCKLAND ATHLETIC FIELDS, UM, IT WAS REQUESTED FOR A MILLION AND A HALF IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THAT PROJECT. 
          UM, 200,000 IS INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET THAT'S DRAFTED. 
          UM, THAT PROJECT IS A PROJECT THAT IF IT'S NOT COMPLETED BY SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027, WE WOULD NEED TO RETURN THE FEDERAL FUNDS. 
          UM, SO WE NEED TO DECIDE WHETHER WE'RE GONNA DO IT OR NOT. 
          UM, AND THEN THE FIGHT FANTASY LAND REVITALIZATION ROUGHLY A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          IT'S BEEN A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT EXPLORING SOME COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS IN ORDER TO DO IT A LITTLE 
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MORE, UM, SMALLER SCALE AND DEAL WITH SOME OF THE SAFETY HAZARDS THAT ARE HAPPENING THERE, UM, IN ORDER TO REPLACE SOME OF THE SLIDES AND THE WOODEN STRUCTURES. 
          UM, SO OUR PROJECT MANAGERS WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION AND THEY'RE REACHING OUT TO DIFFERENT COMMUNITY PARTNERS IN ORDER TO SEE HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THAT PROJECT AT A MUCH LOWER INVESTMENT, UM, FOR THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES BUILDING. 
          THAT BUILDING IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS. 
          THE GYMNASIUM IN THERE IS NOT AIR CONDITIONED, AND SO SUMMERTIME RECREATION AND ACTUALLY THE BASKETBALL SEASON CAN BE INCREDIBLY HOT. 
          UM, AND WE WANTED TO LOOK AT INSTALLING, UM, HVAC SO THAT IT CAN BE USED YEAR ROUND IN A COMFORTABLE SETTING. 
          AND WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING ACTUALLY MOVING PARKS AND RECREATION TO THAT BUILDING, UM, RATHER THAN AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          UM, THE TRACK, IF ANYONE HAS WALKED THE TRACK THERE, THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT TRACKS. 
          SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SAFE. 
          SO PUBLIC WORKS HAS BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB OF FILLING IN THE GAPS, SO TO SPEAK. 
          UM, BUT THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE SHIFTED OUT. 
          AND THEN THE BLEACHERS, UM, WE'VE REMOVED SOME OF THE UNSAFE STRUCTURES, UM, EXTERNALLY, AND WE WANNA CONTINUE TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE HAVE APPROPRIATE SEATING FOR PEOPLE BOTH OUTSIDE THE BUILDING AT THE TRACK AND THEN ALSO THE, UM, BLEACHERS INSIDE THE GYMNASIUM. 
          UM, THEY CURRENTLY ARE NOT A DA COMPLIANT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR GYMS ARE INCLUSIVE FOR EVERYONE. 
          AND, UM, WE DON'T HAVE SOME OF THE RAILINGS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE. 
          UM, CHIMNEY FIELD, WE WOULD LIKE TO CONVERT THE TENNIS COURTS THERE SINCE THEY NEED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK TO BASKETBALL COURT SINCE, UM, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO PLAY BASKETBALL THERE. 
          AND IT'S BEEN, UM, NOTED THAT NO ONE'S PLAYING TENNIS THERE, . 
          UM, WELL MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          UM, BUT SKYLINE HAS BEEN FANTASTIC AND, AND BASICALLY WARN AS WELL THAT IF WE WOULD LIKE TO UTILIZE THEIR TENNIS COURTS, THE SCHOOLS ARE BEING VERY ACCOMMODATING. 
          SO THE TOTAL REQUEST FOR THIS YEAR FOR CAPITAL WAS A LITTLE OVER $6 MILLION. 
          UM, CURRENTLY WE HAVE $300,000 INCLUDED IN THE DRAFTED BUDGET. 
          SO BEFORE WE MM-HMM . 
          LET'S GO BACK TO ROCKLAND PARK ONLY BECAUSE I ALWAYS GET CONFUSED. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IT'S, WE'RE TALKING TWO DIFFERENT COLOR OF MONEY. 
          SO, SO, UM, SO FOR THE $1.5 MILLION THAT'S BEING ASKED MM-HMM . 
          BUT YOU SAY THAT WE HAVE 200,000 MM-HMM . 
          ALREADY ALLOCATED THAT WE CAN ALLOCATE FROM FISCAL YEAR 26. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST REQUESTS MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT? SO IF WE FIND OUT THAT WE CANNOT FUND THE 1.5 MILLION, WE STILL HAVE $200,000 THAT WE CAN STILL USE TO KEEP THE PROJECT GOING. 
          RIGHT? MY, MY CONCERN IS IF WE START THE PROJECT AND START DRAWING DOWN THE FEDERAL FUNDS, WE'RE BASICALLY OBLIGATING OURSELVES TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. 
          SO IF WE DO NOT COMPLETE THE PROJECT, THEN THEY CAN TAKE THE FUNDING BACK. 
          THEREFORE, WE NEED TO DECIDE ARE WE GOING TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT OR NOT. 
          'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANNA GO, OH, WE JUST SPENT, YOU KNOW, A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS THAT COULD HAVE GONE TO SOMETHING ELSE. 
          WE DIDN'T FINISH IT, AND NOW WE HAVE TO PAY BACK THE MILLION AND A HALF THAT THEY GAVE US AND NOT, BUT I THOUGHT THIS WAS A COST SHARE THAT THEY PUT UP 2 MILLION AND WE PUT UP 2 MILLION. 
          IT IS. 
          SO THIS IS THE FIRST PART HERE WOULD BE THE FED'S PART? NO. 
          SO AS WE SPEND IT, WE DRAW DOWN HALF. 
          SO IF WE SPEND $50,000 TO REFRESH THE PLANS, WE CAN THEN DRAW BACK 25,000 FROM THEM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND SO AS WE SPEND IT, WE SHOULD BE DRAWING DOWN, RIGHT? IF WE DO NOT COMPLETE THE PROJECT, WE HAVE TO PAY BACK WHAT WE SPENT OF THEIR MONEY. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE IT'S SO REIMBURSABLE. 
          CORRECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          THEN WHAT ABOUT, SO YOU'RE STILL AT THE PLAN STAGE, MA'AM, RIGHT? UNTIL YOU HAVE THE PLAN BACK THIS FALL? OH, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH, WHAT THESE NUMBERS ARE REALLY GONNA BE, AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S ONLY 200,000 THERE AT THIS TIME. 
          I AM SUZANNE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'LL EVENTUALLY GET IT, . 
          I KNOW, I WILL. 
          IT'S JUST COMPLICATED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO FOR ASSET REPLACEMENT AND FY OH, SORRY. 
          DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT SURE. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          SO, JUST LIKE MS. MEADOWS, UM, STATED FOR THE CAPITAL, THESE ARE GOING TO BE THE REQUESTS THAT WE RECEIVED. 
          AND AS EACH DEPARTMENT HAS PRESENTED TO YOU IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, YOU RECEIVED THEIR REQUESTS. 
          SO THOSE ARE PART OF THE $1.2 MILLION REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED. 
          SO FOR THE SHERIFF'S, UH, OFFICE, WE RECEIVED $730,000 AS A REQUEST. 
          UH, POLICE EQUIPMENT, 
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$15,500. 
          THAT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR BULLETPROOF VESTS. 
          UH, THE BULLETPROOF VESTS NEED TO BE REPLACED EVERY FIVE YEARS. 
          THIS IS THE COUNTY'S PORTION OF A GRANT REIMBURSEMENT FOR E 9 1 1. 
          WE RECEIVE FUNDING FOR E 9 1 1 SPECIFICALLY. 
          AND SO WE HAVE BUDGETED $190,000 AS AN ASK. 
          IT IS NOT CURRENTLY PART OF THE BUDGET. 
          UH, SERVER EQUIPMENT, COMPUTER EQUIPMENT, AND SECURITY EQUIPMENT FROM THE IT BUDGET, THOSE REQUESTS HAVE ALL BEEN PUSHED FORWARD TO FY 25. 
          AND SO WE HAVE CUT ALL OF THOSE OUT OF THE 26. 
          ASK, UH, THE VOTING EQUIPMENT, AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED IN 25  BEFORE YOU GO ON, AND, AND MAYBE YOU CAN'T ANSWER THIS AND I CAN REACH OUT TO MR. JONES SERVER EQUIPMENT. 
          I UNDERSTAND SOME THAT HE TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT THE COMPUTER EQUIPMENT, ARE THOSE NEW COMPUTERS FOR PEOPLE? WHAT IS THAT? YEAH, AND I, AS I'M JUST REALIZING THIS IS A 25, SO THIS IS PART OF THE BUDGET THAT WE'VE ALREADY TRIED TO EXPEND, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO ASK AS MUCH FOR 26. 
          SO THE COMPUTER EQUIPMENT IS THINGS LIKE SERVERS AND NETWORKING EQUIPMENT. 
          UM, AND COMPUTERS. 
          OKAY. 
          'CAUSE I, SO THAT'LL BE A, THAT'LL BE A GOOD QUESTION FOR MR. JONES IN TWO WEEKS, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT ONE. 
          AND ALSO THE SECURITY STUFF. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE'S ALSO, UM, ONE LOW HANGING FRUIT PROJECT THAT HE WANTS TO COMPLETE IS A GIS SERVER REPLACEMENT. 
          SO SOME OF THESE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE TRANSFERRED INTO ONE LINE SO HE CAN PURCHASE THE HARDWARE AND THE SOFTWARE SERVICES FOR THE GIS SERVER. 
          UH, SO THAT'S PART OF THOSE FUND FUNDS SEPARATED NOW FOR THE 26TH. 
          UM, SO THESE ARE THE AMOUNTS THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED, AND THEN THE STATUS OF WHERE THEY ARE IN THE BIG PICTURE. 
          SO, BUILDING INSPECTIONS HAD ONE VEHICLE THAT WAS TOTALED. 
          THEY NEED THREE VEHICLES. 
          THEY'VE ASKED FOR $120,000. 
          THEIR CURRENT STATUS IS 40,000. 
          AND THE 26 ASK PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          THE ELECTRONIC PULL BOOKS, 60,000 WAS MOVED TO 27 28. 
          THE BALLOT SCANNERS 150,000. 
          WE SPENT 138 IN FY 25. 
          SO THAT 150 IS BEING MOVED TO FY 28 FY 32 88 MARKING DEVICES, 80,000 OUT OF THE ELECTIONS BUDGET. 
          THAT'S ALSO BEEN PUSHED BACK TO 27, 28. 
          WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS 88 MARKING DEVICES? AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT. 
          UM, SO ANYONE WHO HAS A DISABILITY, WE ARE OBLIGATED TO MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS. 
          SO THE MARKING DEVICES ASSIST WITH THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM, THIS 115,000 IS JUST TO CONTRACT WITH BARRY DUNN, THE TECHNOLOGY CONSULTANT WHO CAME AND PRESENTED LAST MONTH. 
          THAT WOULD BEGIN THE PROCESS OF REPLACING THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM FOR THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT SYSTEM THAT IS SELECTED WORKS WELL WITH THE TREASURER'S SYSTEM AND THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE SYSTEM. 
          THERE WAS A PROPOSED FIRETRUCK FOR 550 BATTALION VEHICLE FOR 85, AND THEN AN ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF VEHICLE FOR 85. 
          THE ONLY THING THAT REMAINS OUT OF THE FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT ASSET REPLACEMENT IS THE 80,000 FOR THE BATTALION CHIEF. 
          PUBLIC WORKS HAS A NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT ARE NOT BEING ABLE TO PASS INSPECTION OR COSTS MORE TO MAINTAIN THAN THEY ARE TO REPLACE. 
          SO THEIR ASK WAS $30,000 FOR 26, AND IT'S BEEN CUT DOWN TO 50 OTHER ITEMS. 30 OR 300,000? THREE. 
          THREE, OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          300,000 WAS THE ASK. 
          AND 50 WAS WHAT? IT'S CUT DOWN TO OTHER ITEMS FOR PUBLIC WORKS, THE LINE PAID FIELD GROOMER, ROLLER AND DRIVABLE LIFT. 
          THOSE ITEMS HAVE ALL BEEN REMOVED, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ASPHALT ROLLER FOR 20,000. 
          UH, THE CONSOLE REPLACEMENT AND THE RADIO EQUIPMENT UPGRADE FOR E 9 1 1, THOSE ARE ALSO ON HOLD. 
          THE SHERIFF'S VEHICLES HAVE BEEN REDUCED FROM 800,000 TO 600,000. 
          THE VOICE RECORDER, UM, 60,000, THE EQUIPMENT FOR THE DRONE PROGRAM, 50,000 IN-CAR CAMERAS, 131,000 AND THE BULLETPROOF VESTS THAT WE DO NEED TO REPLACE EVERY YEAR. 
          SO YOU SAW THAT IN THE 25. 
          IT'S ALSO BEEN ASKED AGAIN FOR 26, AS IT IS A CONSTANT REFRESH ITEM, THOSE ITEMS ARE BEING SHIFTED BACK. 
          WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SHIFTED BACK? THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED IN THE FY 26 REQUEST. 
          SO THE, THEY'LL BE IN THE FY 27 OR FY 28 OR FY 29 OR, AND IF WE CAN FIND MONEY IN THE FY 25 BUDGET, WE WILL TRY 
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TO PURCHASE THEM THIS YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, LIKE I MENTIONED, FOR THE 25 BUDGET, IT HAS BEEN ABLE TO TRY TO CONSOLIDATE THEIR MOST PRIORITIZED PROJECTS TO SEE WHAT CAN BE PURCHASED WITH FY 25 FUNDS. 
          SO EVERYTHING FROM THE FY 26 ASK HAS BEEN REMOVED. 
          UH, THE GIS SERVER, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, 35,000 THAT WAS PART OF THE SERVICES AND HARDWARE THAT'S BEEN SHIFTED BACK TO 25. 
          SO HE'S GOING TO USE AS MUCH AS HE CAN FROM ASSET REPLACEMENT IN 25 TO PURCHASE WHAT HE NEEDS TO PURCHASE. 
          WITH A TOTAL ASK FOR 26 OF THREE, ALMOST $3.5 MILLION, IT'S BEEN REDUCED TO $905,000. 
          SO YOU WILL SEE THE TRANSFER TO CAPITAL FOR 300,000, AND YOU'LL SEE THE TRANSFER TO ASSET REPLACEMENT AT $905,000. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT COSTS THE GENERAL FUND TO FUND THESE TWO FUNDS. 
          NEW PERSONNEL REQUESTS THAT WERE RECEIVED, UM, FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE, THEY WERE REQUESTING A FULL-TIME CLERK, UM, FOR THE TREASURER'S OFFICE. 
          THEY WERE REQUESTING A PART-TIME DEPUTY TREASURER, UM, FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          THEY WERE REQUESTING A PART-TIME COMMUNITY SERVICES SPECIALIST, AND THEN ALSO A FULL-TIME COMMUNITY SUPPORT SPECIALIST. 
          CURRENTLY THAT POSITION IS GRANT FUNDED, AND WE HAVE ADDED THAT POSITION INTO, UM, AT THE FY 26 BUDGET, THEY WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE SOME OF THEIR VACANCY SAVINGS TO FUND THAT. 
          UM, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, THAT'S THE 80 K THAT IS SALARY BENEFITS INSURANCE. 
          TOTAL COST LABOR IS NOT CHEAP. 
          THAT'S STILL, THAT'S STILL 80 K MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, FOR FIRE AND RESCUE, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR, OR FOR A TOTAL OF NINE, SO SIX FULL-TIME, UM, FIREFIGHTERS FOR STATION ONE, AND THEN THREE FULL-TIME FIREFIGHTERS THAT WILL FLOAT. 
          UM, CURRENTLY WE HAVE THREE FIREFIGHTERS ADDED INTO THE BUDGET. 
          UM, FOR 2026, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR A FULL-TIME FIRE MARSHAL. 
          UM, THAT POSITION HAS NOT BEEN FUNDED. 
          UM, FOR PARKS AND RECREATION, THERE WERE REQUESTS FOR A DEDICATED FIELD MAINTENANCE WORKER, A DEDICATED PARKS AND FACILITY MAINTENANCE WORKER. 
          AND THEN, UM, PART-TIME WINTER RECREATION ATTENDANCE. 
          NONE OF THOSE WERE FUNDED. 
          THE HR GENERALIST POSITION, WHICH IS AN APPROVED POSITION, BUT THE FUNDING WAS, UM, UTILIZED OR REMOVED IN FY 25 HAS NOT BEEN REPLACED. 
          AND FOR THE DEPUTY PLANNING DIRECTOR, AGAIN, IT'S AN APPROVED POSITION THAT HAS NOT BEEN FUNDED FOR ACTUALLY TWO YEARS. 
          AND SO THE REQUESTS WERE BASICALLY ONE AND A HALF MILLION, AND WE'VE ALLOCATED 367,000 INTO THE BUDGET. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? MM-HMM . 
          SO GOING TO ASK, UM, CHIEF IF HE WOULD, UM, HE AND, UH, DEPUTY CHIEF MYCO WOULD TALK ABOUT THE, UH, POSITIONS AT STATION ONE. 
          THEY'VE GOT THEIR OWN SHOW. 
          I DON'T, YEAH. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          AND I WON'T TAKE A WHOLE LOT OF YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. 
          UM, AS THIS IS A RECAP OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING WITH A FEW DATA POINTS. 
          SO CHIEF HAS ASKED ME TO JUST GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF, UH, HOW WE GOT HERE AND WHY. 
          UM, ULTIMATELY THE FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT, AS YOU SAW, REQUESTED 10 TOTAL POSITIONS IN THE FY 26 BUDGET. 
          UH, NINE OF THOSE POSITIONS WERE OPERATIONAL STAFF POSITIONS TO, UH, INCREASE STAFFING AT, AT STATION ONE IN ADD FLOATER POSITIONS TO HELP COVER, UH, STAFF OR, UM, LEAVE USAGE. 
          UH, ADDITIONALLY, WE REQUESTED ONE FULL-TIME FIRE MARSHAL UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, WE WERE PLACED IN A POSITION WITH THE TIGHT BUDGET CONSTRAINTS OF NOT RECEIVING THAT BUDGET REQUEST. 
          UM, WE HAD TO GO IN AND KIND OF PRIORITIZE WHAT, UM, OUR FUNDING STREAMS WERE AND HOW WE WOULD ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDING STREAMS TO MEET OUR STAFFING GOALS. 
          UM, JUST TO RECAP ON THE 2024 CALLS FOR SERVICE AS IT'S RELEVANT TO THIS REQUEST. 
          IN 2024, THE COUNTY EXPERIENCED 7,649 TOTAL CALLS FOR SERVICE, UM, OR INCIDENT IN OUR FIRE AND EMS RESPONSE SYSTEM. 
          THAT WAS A 5.7% INCREASE FROM CALENDAR YEAR 2023, OUR FRONT ROYAL FIRE STATION ACROSS THE STREET, UH, THAT FIRE STATION PROTECTS 14.59 
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SQUARE MILES, UH, 5,943 ADDRESSES AND AN ESTIMATED POPULATION OF 15,700 PEOPLE. 
          UM, IN CALENDAR YEAR 2024, THAT STATION RESPONDED TO 4,266 INCIDENTS. 
          UM, CURRENTLY THAT STATION HAS THREE PERSON MINIMUM STAFFING, AND THERE WERE 429 CALLS FOR SERVICES MISSED OUT OF THAT FRONT ROYAL DISTRICT. 
          SO 429 TIMES FRONT ROYAL WAS NOT ABLE TO COVER THE CALLS FOR SERVICE WITHIN THEIR DISTRICT. 
          SO WE TALKED TO YOU LAST TIME ABOUT THE CHESTER GAP STAFFING ARRANGEMENT AND AGREEMENT. 
          UM, THERE WAS AN ADVOCATION FOR AN INCREASE OF FUNDING, SO THAT REALLY DROVE THE DATA ANALYSIS TO LOOK AT THE HOLISTIC CALLS FOR SERVICE. 
          UM, THIS WAS, UM, ULTIMATELY RESULTED IN THE FIRE CHIEF'S ADVOCATION THAT HE'LL SPEAK TO YOU IN A MINUTE IN THE WAY OF WHERE TO BEST UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS. 
          UM, WE KNOW THAT THAT CHESTER GAP STAFFING ARRANGEMENT BEGAN IN 2020, IS A TEMPORARY STAFFING MEASURE. 
          UM, IT WAS ORIGINALLY, UH, UTILIZED CARES ACT AND ARPA FUNDS TO COMPLETE THAT PROGRAM, AND IT'S NOW REQUESTED AS PART OF OUR VOLUNTEER BUDGET. 
          UM, IT ORIGINALLY STARTED AS A 50 50 SPLIT, BUT TODAY IT STANDS AT A 60 40 SPLIT BETWEEN WARREN AND RAPPAHANNOCK COUNTY WITH CHESTER GAP MAKING UP THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT PROGRAM, UH, AS PROVIDED. 
          UM, THE REASON IT'S A 60 40 SPLIT IS BECAUSE 60% OF THE CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT CHESTER GAP RUNS FROM THE ENTIRETY OF THEIR RESPONSE SYSTEM TO INCLUDE HANOCK FALK. 
          HERE IN WARRING COUNTY, 60, ROUGHLY 60% OF THEIR CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE TO INCIDENTS IN THE GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION OF WARREN COUNTY. 
          SO OUR HOLISTIC DATA ANALYSIS REALLY DOVE IN TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT THE CHESTER GAP FIRE DEPARTMENT IS PROVIDING FOR OUR FIRE AND RESCUE RESPONSE SYSTEM. 
          UM, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH CHESTER GAP'S LEADERSHIP DISTRICT CHIEF, UH, TODD BROWN YESTERDAY, GO OVER SOME OF THESE NUMBERS, UM, AND KIND OF REVIEW WHAT THEIR OPERATIONAL SERVICES ARE TO WARRING COUNTY, UM, BUT OF THEIR RESPONSES INTO WARRING COUNTY. 
          SO 336 TOTAL RESPONSES. 
          UM, 39% WERE WITHIN THEIR FIRST DUE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA. 
          SO THE AREAS THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER HARMONY HOLLOW POINT OH, WOODS LAKEFRONT ROYAL, UH, THAT REMOUNT ROAD STRETCH, UM, 61% ARE 212 OF THEIR TOTAL CALLS FOR SERVICE. 
          WERE IN THE OTHER GEOGRAPHICAL RESPONSE AREAS OF WARRING COUNTY. 
          LOOKING AT THE TOTAL EMS REQUESTS. 
          SO THIS, IF WE CONSIDER THIS AN EMS STAFFING PROGRAM, UH, AND WE LOOK AT THE TOTALITY OF THEIR EMS RESPONSES INTO WARREN COUNTY. 
          WE NOTE THAT 89 TOTAL CALLS FOR SERVICE, OR 46% WERE IN THE GEOGRAPHICAL RESPONSE DISTRICT OF FRONT ROYAL, UH, ONLY 78 OR 40% WERE IN THEIR OWN GEOGRAPHICAL RESPONSE AREA, UM, AS CALLED THEIR FIRST DUE. 
          ALL THE OTHER RESPONSES WERE JUST SPORADIC THROUGH THE OTHER GEOGRAPHICAL RESPONSE AREAS OF THE COUNTY. 
          THEIR RES, THEIR FIRE RESPONSE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. 
          SO YOU SEE THAT THEY HAVE A HIGHER RESPONSE RATE IN FIRE WITHIN THEIR FIRST DUE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA. 
          38%, 32% OF THEIR FIRE RESPONSES WERE IN THE FRONT ROYAL GEOGRAPHICAL AREA WITH THE REMAINDER BEING IN THE OTHER GEOGRAPHICAL RESPONSE AREAS OF WARRING COUNTY. 
          THEIR TOTAL RESPONSE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRE AND EMS BASED RESPONSES BY GEOGRAPHICAL RESPONSE AREA, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE MAKEUP HERE, 140 ARE IN THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL OR THE FRONT ROYAL RESPONSE AREA 138. 
          WERE WITHIN THE CHESTER GAP RESPONSE AREA, TAKING ALL OF THE ADDRESSES WORKING WITH GIS AND JUST MAPPING THAT TO KIND OF SHOW YOU WHAT THEIR CALL DISTRIBUTION LOOKS LIKE AS A STATION. 
          THIS WILL JUST GIVE YOU THAT VISUALIZATION OF, UH, THEY DO HAVE A PRETTY FAR REACH. 
          UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT IT, UH, HOLISTICALLY CONCENTRATES ON THE, THE LAKEFRONT ROYAL, UH, THE POINT OF WOODS AREA FROM THEIR FIRST DUE AREA. 
          BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL IN THE FRONT ROYAL RESPONSE DISTRICT, THAT HAS A HIGHER CALL VOLUME FOR THAT SPECIFIC STATION. 
          UM, SO 
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MOVING FORWARD WITH THE FIRE CHIEF'S ADVOCATION IS OBVIOUSLY THE FIRE CHIEF HAD TO PRIORITIZE WHERE THE FUNDS WENT. 
          UM, IT WOULD BE THE FIRE CHIEF'S ION TO SHIFT THOSE FUNDS AND UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS TO INCREASE THE DAILY MINIMUM STAFFING AT THE FRONT ROYAL RESPONSE STATION FROM THREE TO FOUR. 
          THAT WOULD ADD THREE FULL-TIME, UH, POSITIONS TO THE BUDGET. 
          UH, WE WOULD CROSS STAFF THAT STATION, UM, STAFFING EITHER TO MEDIC UNITS OR ONE MEDIC UNIT AND A FIRE TRUCK, THE RESCUE SQUAD OR THE LADDER TRUCK BASED OFF OF CALL VOLUMES OR DEMANDS. 
          UM, IT DECREASES THE CALL PRESSURES ON THE OUTLYING STATIONS. 
          SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CALLS MISSED OUT OF THAT FRONT ROYAL RESPONSE DISTRICT, UH, THAT'S 429 TIMES WE'RE MOVING RESOURCES FROM OUR OUTLYING STATIONS INTO THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA FRONT ROYAL TO PROVIDE OR BACKFILL THAT RESPONSE COVERAGE. 
          EVERY DAY WE'RE JOCKEYING UNITS AROUND TO MEET CALL PRESSURES AND DEMANDS. 
          UM, SOMETIMES UNITS PASS EACH OTHER AND THEY GIVE A FRIENDLY WAVE BASED OFF OF, UM, WHAT CAPABILITIES LEVELS ARE. 
          UH, YOU MAY HAVE A BLS UNIT GOING TO, UH, A CALL IN THE A LS UNIT PASSING ANOTHER CALL. 
          AND JUST BECAUSE OF STAY STAFFING LIMITATIONS, UM, THOSE ARE THE PRESSURES THAT WE ARE FACED WITH. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, THIS REDUCES THE RESPONSE TIMES FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE FAILED RESPONSES IN THE FRONT ROYAL DISTRICT. 
          UM, I'LL LET CHIEF KIND OF, UH, PRE ALLUDED TO WHAT HIS ADVOCATION WAS OUTSIDE OF THAT IN THE NUTS AND BOLTS AS TO WHY. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO GOOD EVENING, AND THANK YOU. 
          UM, I'M NOT GONNA SUMMARIZE WHAT JERRY JUST DID. 
          HE DID A FANTASTIC JOB WITH THE DOCUMENTATION, THE ANALYSIS, AND THE SHOUT OUT TO BRIAN FOLEY AS WELL. 
          BUT OUR IDEA HERE, AND I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH EACH BOARD MEMBER TO EXPLAIN THIS TO HOPEFULLY PROVIDE A LITTLE CONTEXT, BUT THE IDEA HERE IS, UM, ALBEIT IMPERFECT, UM, IT'S JUST SIMPLY TRYING TO DO, IF YOU LOOK AT MORE OF A UTILITARIAN STANDPOINT OF TO DO THE BEST WE CAN WITH THE RESOURCES WE HAVE, UM, LOOKING AT CALL DISTRIBUTION AND THE CALL DISTRIBUTION ACROSS THE STREET, UH, THERE'S NO QUESTION WHAT WE'RE MISSING MOST. 
          UM, AND, AND WHAT JERRY KIND OF HE GLEANED OVER, BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT IS NOT ONLY ARE WE MISSING THE, UM, CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR THE EMS SIDE OF THE HOUSE, BUT WE'LL ALSO HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO MISS FOR DUE RESPONSES OF FIRE RESPONSE AND OR USE OF LADDER TRUCK AS WELL AS A RESCUE COMPANY. 
          SO AGAIN, AN IMPERFECT SCIENCE, BUT TRYING TO WORK WITH THE RESOURCES WE HAVE, THIS IS OUR ADVOCATION MOVING AHEAD. 
          AND WITH THAT, I'LL HUSH AND ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS. 
          WELL, IT'S, MY AREA'S GONNA BE AFFECTED THE MOST BY IT. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          UM, WE, WE BOTH AGREE ON THAT. 
          UM, MY AREA HAS THE LARGEST LANDMASS AND OF COURSE POPULATION IS FAIRLY EQUALIZED OUT. 
          BUT, UM, I WROTE IT TO SEE FROM FRONT ROYAL FIRE DEPARTMENT TO GOONEY MANOR LOOP. 
          IT'S, AND YOU CAN'T BOOK IT ON BROWNTOWN ROAD, YOU JUST CAN'T DO IT THREE 40. 
          YOU CAN'T ALWAYS BOOK IT SAFELY. 
          UM, YOU'RE TALKING 15 MINUTES PROBABLY. 
          AND WE BOTH KNOW CARDIAC ARREST, UH, TRACTOR ON SOMEBODY, WHATEVER. 
          THAT'S TOO LONG. 
          AND, UM, MY CONCERN IS THAT THIS IS LEAVING A LARGE AREA. 
          IF, IF UPSCALING ONE HELPS, AND I HAVE BEEN A PROPONENT OF UPSCALE IN ONE FOR YEARS, IT'S, THAT'S TOO MUCH STRESS ON THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WE CURRENTLY HAVE THERE. 
          BUT WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS GONNA BE THE PROCESS OF A FIRE CALL COMES IN AND EVERYBODY STILL GOES TO THAT FIRE CALL AND THE BUILDING'S EMPTY AND YOU GET AN MS CALL. 
          I MEAN, MS COLORS, YOU KNOW, ANSWER SIMPLY IS WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ON, ON OUR BEST DAY, OUR RESOURCES ARE DEPLETED EVERY DAY. 
          UM, THIS IS NOT A PERFECT ANSWER. 
          I KNOW IT'S US TRYING TO UTILIZE, PUT IT OUT THERE, RESOURCES, GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          AND FRANKLY, UM, I WAS BEFORE YOU EARLY IN THIS YEAR ASKING FOR NINE OPERATIONAL POSITIONS, AND WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO MEETING WHERE WE NEED TO BE WITH THAT. 
          SO WE'RE TALKING ROUGHLY ONE THIRD HERE, AND WE'RE ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL. 
          UH, I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND SAY IT'S A PERFECT SCIENCE 'CAUSE IT'S NOT. 
          IT'S DOING THE BEST WE CAN GIVEN THE SCARCE RESOURCES WE HAVE. 
          UH, THE ONLY THING I CAN ADD TO THAT IS THERE'S NO QUESTION IN REGARDS TO CALL DATA. 
          AND AGAIN, LET ME ALSO SAY RESPECTFULLY THAT THIS WAS PREDICATED ON A SHORT TERM MEASURE NOW THAT'S GOING ON FIVE YEARS. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHAT PERPETUATED THIS 
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ANALYSIS WAS US RECEIVING NOTIFICATION FROM THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IN RAPPA HANNA COUNTY WITH A PRICE INCREASE, WHICH WOULD TO THE TUNE ABOUT $86,000 FOR WARREN COUNTY. 
          HENCE THE GRANULAR LEVEL OF DETAIL. 
          WE'VE, WE'VE DOVE INTO GOOD ANALYSIS, GOOD INFORMATION CAME OUT OF IT. 
          BUT TO YOUR POINT, MA'AM, IT'S DEFINITELY AN IMPERFECT SCIENCE FOR DOING THE BEST WE CAN GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          NO, AND I, I AGREE. 
          UM, I WATCHED THEIR MEETING, I READ THE EMAIL. 
          I WASN'T ANY MORE HAPPY ABOUT IT THAN YOU. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          UM, BOTTOM LINE WAS THE REQUEST DID NOT COME FROM COMPANY NINE THEMSELVES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THAT IS  THEIR THING TO DEAL WITH THEIR ADMINISTRATION AND THEIR BOARD OVER THERE. 
          BUT I WANT THAT TO GO ON RECORD. 
          THAT COMPANY NINE'S, UH, ADMINISTRATION WAS NOT ASKING FOR THAT INCREASE. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          THEY, THEY WERE WILLING TO ACCEPT THE SUPPORT AND BE GRATEFUL FOR IT THAT WE WERE GIVING THEM AND TO CONTINUE THE RELATIONSHIP. 
          SO I, I JUST WANT THAT TO GO ON RECORD THAT, YOU KNOW, AND IT HAS BEEN A, A GREAT RELATIONSHIP FOR BOTH. 
          I'M NOT DISCOUNTING THAT AT ALL. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THE BANG FOR THE BUCK WAS DEFINITELY THERE. 
          YES. 
          BUT I HAVE TO SPEAK UP TO SUPPORT BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, YOU LIVE IN SOUTH RIVER. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          I DO. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S LEAN. 
          I KNOW. 
          AND WE BOTH TAKE A BEATING ALL THE TIME FROM, UM, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE BECAUSE THEY, THEY'RE FEARFUL THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THERE IN TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          RECENTLY I ATTENDED A TOWN HALL WITH YOU WHERE, YOU KNOW, A QUESTION CAME FROM A CONSTITUENT, A NEIGHBOR OF MINE, IF YOU WILL. 
          AND I'M VERY HONEST WHEN I SAY THAT IS, YOU KNOW, ON OUR BEST DAY WE HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES. 
          NOW WE'RE BUILDING CAPACITY. 
          AND THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING US TO DO THAT, DR. 
          DALEY AND TEAM AS WELL. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO AND UNDERSTANDING THE CALL PRESSURE. 
          WE'RE SIMPLY TRYING TO DOING THE BEST GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          AGAIN, IT'S THE, THE, THE SPECIFICS ARE NOT ANY ONE GEOGRAPHIC AREA. 
          I'M DEALING WITH 219 SQUARE MILES. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, NOT ONLY IN THE, THE MUTUAL AID ASSETS, BUT YOU'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE, THE LARGER OR THE LION'S SHARE OF CALL VOLUME, AGAIN, STARTS IN THIS DISTRICT. 
          SO HENCE WHY WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS, START THERE, UNDERSTANDING IT'S NOT PERFECT. 
          SO, NOPE, NOPE. 
          AND I WON'T DISAGREE THAT ONE NEEDS TO BE UPSCALED. 
          I'M, I'M JUST, I HAVE TO SPEAK IN DEFENSE OF THE PEOPLE THAT I REPRESENT AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR FEAR. 
          I, YOU KNOW, WHEN I HEAR COMPANY ONE, I MEAN, COMPANY THREE GET PULLED, UM, OR GO TO WINCHESTER ON A TRANSPORT. 
          AND I THINK THERE WAS, COMPANY FOUR TOOK A TRANSPORT TO WINCHESTER THIS MORNING, WHICH IS NOT ATYPICAL. 
          NO, IT'S NOT. 
          I MEAN, THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. 
          AND, AND, UM, LISTEN, TURNAROUND TIME, UM, I, I, I MET WITH MR. STAN MEYER OVER A SEPARATE SITUATION REGARDING CAPACITY OR LACK THEREOF. 
          AND THE DISTINCTION IS, AND AND AGAIN, WE HAVE A WAYS TO GO, IS THERE'S NO RESILIENCY IN THE SYSTEM. 
          AND SO THEREFORE WHEN YOU REACH FOR THE BENCH OR THE SIXTH MAN OFF THE BENCH, AND EXCUSE THE METAPHOR, THE BOTTOM LINE, IT'S NOT THERE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, HENCE WE REACH TO OUR MUTUAL AID NEIGHBORS, ALBEIT IMPERFECT, AND WE DEPEND ON THEM LIKE THEY DEPEND ON US. 
          UM, I'M NOT DISCOUNTING THE RELATIONSHIP PIECE WITH CHESTER GAP OR ANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS, FRANKLY. 
          IT'S VERY GOOD AND I APPRECIATE IT. 
          BUT THIS IS SIMPLY ME MAKING A BUSINESS DECISION GIVEN THE LIMITED RESOURCES WE HAVE. 
          MY OBLIGATION IS TO TELL THE TRUTH. 
          AND MY ADVOCACY IS SIMPLY BASED ON EMPIRICAL INFORMATION AND NOT ANECDOTE. 
          IT'S JUST ALL I GOT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. 
          I, I APPRECIATE THE DATA DIV DATA DRIVEN APPROACH. 
          UM, MY QUESTION IS, UH, WE'LL STILL BE PAYING OR CONTRIBUTING THE $45,000 ROUGHLY PER YEAR AND STILL HAVE MUTUAL AID, UH, IN GENERAL. 
          BUT THIS WOULD JUST CHANGE THE, THE CALL RESPONSE. 
          UH, BUT THERE WOULD BE CASES, I GUESS IF WE WERE TAPPED OUT, THEY, YOU KNOW, YOU YOU LIKE TO SAY, WE DON'T TRIP ON JURISDICTIONAL LINES, AND I'M ASSUMING THEY WOULDN'T EITHER IN, IN THOSE TYPES OF CASES. 
          THAT WOULD BE MY ASSUMPTION, MR. STAAR. 
          I MEAN, UM, WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS TO SERVE AND TO YOUR POINT, WE DON'T TRIP OVER JURISDICTIONAL LINES. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, WE'LL NEVER HOLD RESOURCES IF WE'RE ASKED FOR 'EM. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S SIMPLY OUR OBLIGATION TO SERVE THE CONSTITUENT, BE IT IN FREDERICK, WHEREVER WE'RE GOING. 
          SO TO YOUR POINT, UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE THERE WOULD BE RECIPROCITY WITH THAT, AND I'M OPERATING IN GOOD FAITH. 
          HISTORICALLY, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A GOOD RESPONSE FROM NOT ONLY RAP HANOCK, BUT FAKI, ET CETERA. 
          UM, I COULD GO ON. 
          SO YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NO, AND I, I KNOW, UM, I HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH CHIEF BROWN AND IF AS LONG AS HE IS ABLE TO HAVE, UM, THE MS AND THAT'S HIS FEAR, IS THAT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HE DOESN'T HAVE THE PROVIDERS, HE'S GONNA HAVE TO SHUT DOWN THE MS SIDE 'CAUSE HE 
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DOESN'T HAVE THE VOLUNTEER SYSTEM THERE FOR THAT. 
          SO I'LL, I'LL BE IN IMPERFECT. 
          WE WERE, WE'RE AS A CONTINGENCY, WE'RE BUILDING IN WHAT WE CALL A DUAL RESPONSE. 
          SO ONE WOULD BE TONED OUT SO THEY'RE AWARE, I'M BEING COGNIZANT THAT THAT IS THE POTENTIAL. 
          SO TO CHIEF BROWN'S CREDIT, HE DID MAKE US AWARE OF THAT AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOPE. 
          THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EVENING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO WE ASKED THE SHERIFF, UH, TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, SOME OF THE SWITCHES YOU WERE LOOKING AT IN THIS PRESENTATION. 
          I THINK JANE BROUGHT THEM UP THERE. 
          YEAH, SO THIS IS JUST A, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE SLIDES. 
          OH, DO I JUST MOVE UP? HERE WE GO. 
          GO BACK TO, I THINK IT'S, OH, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO THIS, THIS SLIDE HERE. 
          I CAN JUST TALK ABOUT IT. 
          I DON'T NEED I, UM, SO THESE ARE THE, UM, TWO PROJECTS THAT I INTRODUCED LAST WEEK. 
          UM, TRYING TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO HELP OUT WITH THE BUDGET PROCESS. 
          THE FIRST ONE BEING THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WITH MOTOROLA FLEX, UM, ALSO KNOWN AS SPILLMAN, IS UTILIZING EXISTING FUNDING FOR THE FIRST PORTION OF THAT PAYMENT IN FISCAL YEAR 25. 
          SO I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANY MONEY IN FISCAL YEAR 26. 
          UM, ONCE THE CONTRACT IS SIGNED, THE NEXT PAYMENT WILL NOT BE DUE UNTIL 12 TO 18 MONTHS AFTER THE CONTRACT TO GET IT IMPLEMENTED AND ALL OF THE RECORDS TRANSFERRED OVER TRAINING, ET CETERA. 
          SO, UM, YEAR TWO PAYMENT WILL NOT BE, UM, IN FISCAL YEAR 26. 
          SO I AM ASKING TO USE EXISTING FUNDS IN THIS YEAR'S, UM, BUDGET, WHICH COMES FROM VACANCY SAVINGS. 
          SO HOW MUCH WOULD BE FOR 27? SO THAT IS, UM, UP, IN, UP, IT DEPENDS ON WHEN THEY'RE DONE WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROGRAM. 
          SO IT COULD BE 219,000 OR IT WILL BE FISCAL YEAR 28 THAT THE FIRST PAYMENT WILL, UM, COME DUE. 
          THEIR ESTIMATION RIGHT NOW IS THAT THAT FIRST PAYMENT WILL BE FISCAL YEAR 28. 
          SO TWO 18 IS THE HIGH NUMBER, MA'AM. 
          YES. 
          AND THAT IS NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE SOUTHERN SOFTWARE IN RAVE, WHICH IS GONNA TAKE ANOTHER 60,000 OFF OF THAT WOULD BE OUR INCREASE. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT FISCAL YEAR 26 NOT HAVING TO INCREASE OUR BUDGET FOR THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. 
          UM, AND POSSIBLY FISCAL YEAR 27 AS WELL. 
          SO LET'S MAKE AN ASSUMPTION THAT WE WILL HAVE TO PAY, MAKE A PAYMENT IN 27. 
          HOW MUCH WOULD THAT BE? THE 200 AND 219,000 MINUS THE 60,000 THAT WE CURRENTLY PAY FOR THE SOUTHERN END RAVE. 
          'CAUSE RA IS, AND THEN GOING FORWARD, THAT WOULD BE PART OF YOUR BUDGET? YES. 
          AND IT'S FLAT FUNDING FOR THAT, THAT MAINTENANCE. 
          USUALLY THE, UM, TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES INCREASE THE PRICE BY FOUR TO 5% EACH YEAR. 
          WE'LL HAVE FOUR YEARS OF FLAT FUNDING AT 219,000 AS PART OF THE CONTRACT. 
          SO THEN ABSORBING THE EXISTING 50 K, THAT, THAT WOULD BE WHAT, WHAT 150 K IS THAT GONNA INCREASE YOUR BUDGET? A HUNDRED? YOU'LL BE IN EITHER FISCAL YEAR 27 OR 28. 
          SO YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ABSORB THE 150 FROM YOUR, YOUR BUDGET IF RIGHT NOW I DON'T KNOW WHICH BUDGET. 
          SO I, I'M PROPOSING THAT I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANY MONEY FOR THIS BECAUSE WE CAN USE EXISTING FUNDS. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE IN FISCAL YEAR 27 OR 28. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT YEAH, OKAY. 
          THAT'S PART, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. 
          BUT THIS IS LIKE, THIS IS A $1.3 MILLION PROJECT THAT I'M, I'M TRYING TO COME FORWARD WITH. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT COSTING, I'M JUST THE BUDGET PERSON, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU STILL HAVE TO STILL MAKE PAYMENTS FOR FOLLOW ON YEARS, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, BUT I GET IT. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          I MEAN THERE'S DEFINITELY A, A NEED ON ON THAT. 
          I MEAN, WE ARE USING A 2000 MICROSOFT DATABASE PRODUCT. 
          WHEN YOU 
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DO A SEARCH, IT'S THE EYEGLASSES. 
          I MEAN, IT IS, IT IS NOT AS FUNCTIONAL OR EFFICIENT AS, AS WHAT WE NEED IT TO BE. 
          THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY IT IS ALL AROUND THE COUNTY. 
          LET'S TALK ABOUT FINANCE . 
          SO I'M JUST ASKING, WE DON'T KICK THE CAN DOWN THE, THE ROAD ANY FURTHER 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA TAKE 12 TO 18 MONTHS TO EVEN IMPLEMENT IT. 
          SO WE'RE ALREADY BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL I DID AT REQUEST THIS LAST YEAR AND WE DID NOT GET THAT TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          UM, THE SECOND ISSUE THAT WE HAVE AND PART OF THE, UM, WAY THAT WE CAN PAY FOR THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT IS BECAUSE OF THE VACANCY SAVINGS. 
          WE HAVE A REALLY BIG ISSUE WITH, UM, VACANCIES ON OUR STAFF. 
          IT ISN'T JUST A FACT THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANNA BE COPS BECAUSE PEOPLE DO WANNA BE COPS, BUT SOMETIMES THEY ARE NOT QUALIFIED. 
          BUT WE ALSO DON'T, UM, COMPENSATE FOR THE JOB IN WHICH, IN A MANNER THAT WE SHOULD. 
          UM, I HAD THE LAST PROPOSAL THAT I HAD, UM, I DID NOT LOOK AT SURROUNDING COUNTIES OR LOCALITIES. 
          I LOOKED AT ONE THAT WAS SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF WARREN COUNTY, WHICH IS FRONT ROYAL. 
          AND I DID A DRAFT SALARY SCALE TO REFLECT WHAT OUR COUNTERPARTS SALARY SCALE IS. 
          AND LOOKING AT THAT MYSELF AND THE MAJOR LOOKED AND WE WANNA PUT FIVE POSITIONS ON PAUSE. 
          I, AT THIS POINT, WE'RE NOT GETTING PEOPLE IN THE DOOR AND GETTING THESE VACANCIES, UM, FILLED AS WELL AS WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT HAVE LEFT OUR AGENCY FOR HIGHER PAYING JOBS, UM, ONE OF WHICH WAS THE TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL. 
          UM, SO BY PAUSING THOSE POSITIONS, WE ARE ABLE TO HELP WITH THE COMPACTION OF THESE ISSUES. 
          UM, THAT WE HAVE. 
          WE HAVE MASTER DEPUTIES THAT ARE MAKING MORE THAN SERGEANTS. 
          WE HAVE SERGEANTS THAT ARE MAKING MORE THAN LIEUTENANTS. 
          EIGHT OF OUR NINE SERGEANTS I THINK MAKE MORE THAN THREE OUTTA FOUR OF OUR LIEUTENANTS. 
          AND, UM, IT IS CONTINUING TO BE A PROBLEM. 
          SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY STARTING, UM, INCREASING OUR STARTING PAY, BUT IT IS MORE ABOUT FIXING THE TOP COMPACTION. 
          SO WHEN PEOPLE GO FOR A PROMOTION, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY IN THOSE EXISTING POSITIONS AREN'T, AREN'T BEING SURPASSED. 
          SO IT IS ALSO GOING TO HELP WITH, UM, CURRENTLY IN OUR SALARY SCALE, AND I DIDN'T POINT THIS OUT LAST TIME, IS THAT WE HAVE A CAREER DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND OUR DEPUTY ONE, TWO AND THREE ARE ALL AT GRADE 11. 
          AND SO THEY SPEND THEIR ENTIRE TIME JUST JUMPING UP IN THAT GRADE. 
          SO IF WE GET SOMEONE THAT IS CERTIFIED, WE HAVE TO USE GRADE 11. 
          AND I AM ONLY GIVEN PERMISSION TO GO UP TO A STEP D AND IF I HAVE A SEVEN YEAR CERTIFIED DEPUTY OR A 10 YEAR CERTIFIED DEPUTY, I, I CAN ONLY GO UP SO FAR AND THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO TAKE THAT SALARY. 
          SO THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE ALSO HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO RECRUIT CERTIFIED DEPUTIES BY SPLITTING IT OUT. 
          SO DEPUTY ONE HAS A GRAY DEPUTY TWO, DEPUTY THREE MASTER DEPUTY, SO ON AND SO FORTH. 
          THEN THE PAY SCALE WILL ALLOW US TO BRING IN CERTIFIED DEPUTIES WITH EXPERIENCE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO SEND TO THE ACADEMY OR FTO AND GET THEM ON THE STREETS QUICKER. 
          UM, THIS WILL ALSO HELP THAT ISSUE AS WELL. 
          SO THAT IS MY PROPOSAL ON THAT. 
          AGAIN, I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANY MONEY FOR THAT. 
          UH, I THINK WE CAN, WE'RE GONNA FIND IT IN THE FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET WITH THE VACANCY SAVINGS THAT WE WILL HAVE THERE BY PAUSING FIVE POSITIONS. 
          SO THOSE FIVE VACANCIES, ARE YOU GIVING UP THOSE POSITIONS OR YOU JUST FREEZE? I'D LIKE TO PUT 'EM ON PAUSE. 
          UM, SO SO WHAT, WHAT ARE WE DOING? ARE WE, ARE YOU FREEZING THEM? YES. 
          OR ARE YOU GONNA GIVE THEM UP? THEY, THEY FREEZING? UM, YES, I WOULD HAVE TO ASK FOR FUNDING FOR THEM AGAIN, BUT FOR FISCAL YEAR 26, I AM ASKING THAT. 
          I, I AM SAYING I WILL NOT FILL THOSE POSITIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          IN FISCAL YEAR 27, DEPENDING ON WHERE WE ARE IN STAFFING, IF WE ARE STILL DOWN BY SEVEN, EIGHT, OR 10 POSITIONS, I WILL NOT ASK FOR THOSE POSITIONS TO BE UNFROZEN. 
          UM, SO IT DEPENDS ON WHERE WE ARE IN OUR STAFFING ON, ON THAT. 
          RIGHT NOW WHERE WE ARE, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE CAN HIRE AS MANY VACANCIES AS WE HAVE. 
          I'M HOPING THAT WE HAVE A GOOD YEAR AND WE CAN CHANGE THIS SALARY SCALE AND WE CAN GET SOME CERTIFIED DEPUTIES IN THERE AND WE CAN GET A FULLER STAFF. 
          'CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE ARE WORKING A LOT OF OVERTIME, WE'RE WEARING A LOT OF HATS 
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AND WE, WE NEED TO GET OUR STAFFING UP. 
          THIS IS TOTALLY A WAY TO GET THAT DONE. 
          NO, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. 
          AND I DO BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO FLATTEN THE, YOU KNOW, UH, PAY SCHEDULE. 
          I THINK THAT'S FAIR WITH EVERYBODY, RIGHT? I'M JUST LOOKING AT, OKAY, SO YOU'RE GONNA FREEZE OR YOU KNOW, FOR SOME FIVE POSITIONS VACANCIES THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU CANNOT FEEL AT THIS TIME. 
          YES. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN USING THAT MONEY TO EQUALIZE THIS PAY SCALE FOR THE EXISTING STAFF THAT YOU HAVE. 
          YES. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND TO HELP BRING IN CERTIFIED DEPUTIES. 
          OKAY, SO TWOFOLD. 
          SO I'M JUST SO THAT, SO ARE YOU GOING TO, SO LET'S JUST MAKE IT MAKE AN ASSUMPTION. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST MAKE AN ASSUMPTION YOU'RE DOWN 15, OKAY? SO YOU'RE GOING TO PUT FIVE ON HOLD OR WHATEVER AND RIGHT. 
          AND WE'RE GOING TO EQUALIZE TO PACE SCALE, GET EVERYONE UP TO THE LEVELS THAT A PAY THEY DESERVE AND THEN TWO YEARS COME DOWN THE ROAD, THEN SOMEONE, FIVE PEOPLE COME. 
          SO IS THAT FUNDING, THAT NEW FUNDING THAT YOU'D BE ASKING FOR THE BOARD AT THAT TIME? I'LL ASK FOR THE POSITIONS TO BE UN UNFROZE. 
          THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT WE ARE BEHIND IN OUR SALARY, IN OUR SALARIES FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          AND I'M JUST ASKING THAT WE COME UP TO PAR WITH OUR OTHER LOCAL AGENCY. 
          YEAH, I, I'M NOT RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE BEHIND. 
          SO I, I CAN'T, I CAN'T TELL YOU I'M GONNA FIND THE MONEY IN TWO YEARS FOR THESE POSITIONS, BUT I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT ON THE COUNTY AS BEING A RESPONSIBLE PARTNER IN KEEPING OUR COUNTY SAFE AND OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS SAFE AND BEING ABLE TO RESPOND TO EVERY CALL THAT WE CAN. 
          SO THESE POSITIONS ARE NON-COMP, THEY'RE NOT COMP POSITIONS, THEY'RE COUNTY PAID. 
          THE COMP BOARD GIVES US ONE DEPUTY REFUND OR COMPENSATES US FOR ONE DEPUTY PER 1500. 
          RIGHT? I BELIEVE THE AMOUNT IS 24, 27. 
          SO THE FIVE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THOUGH, THOSE AREN'T COMP? NO, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT STATE COMP. 
          NO, THEY ARE NOT. 
          THESE ARE FIVE POSITIONS THAT THE COUNTY'S GENERAL FUND PAYS FOR? YES MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          YES. 
          WHAT'S GOING ON? AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO, UM, JUST BRIEFLY, AND THIS WASN'T REALLY SOMETHING THAT I WAS ASKED TO DO, BUT I DO JUST WANNA REMIND YOU OF THE PRESENTATION THAT I GAVE A YEAR AGO WHERE OUR FLEET IS, UM, IS SAD  AT THAT TIME I DID A PRESENTATION IN 36 OF OUR VEHICLES. 
          UM, SOME REPLACED IN SOMEWHERE. 
          WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE VEHICLES FOR OUR DEPUTIES. 
          I WOULD ASK THAT. 
          UM, WE INCREASE IT FOR EIGHT VEHICLES. 
          UM, I DID ASK FOR, UM, 15, I BELIEVE AT THE BEGINNING, AND I DROPPED THAT TO BE A GOOD STEWARD WITH THE COUNTY TO, TO, FOR THE BUDGET. 
          UM, WE STILL DO NOT HAVE ALL OF OUR VEHICLES, UM, ON THE ROAD FROM WHAT WE ORDERED LAST JULY. 
          SO IT TAKES THAT LONG. 
          THERE HAS BEEN SOME HICCUPS ALONG THE WAY TO, UM, FOR SOME OF THOSE DELAYS. 
          BUT WE HAVE VEHICLES THAT ARE A HUNDRED TWENTY, A HUNDRED FORTY, A HUNDRED SIXTY REACH AT 170,000 MILES THAT WE HAVE ON THE ROAD FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. 
          I SHOULD NOT HAVE A FIRST RESPONDER AND A 2007 FORD EXPLORER. 
          AND SO FROM PATROL, THEY ARE THEN GIVEN DOWN TO OTHER DIVISIONS, UM, LIKE CIVIL AND OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS AND, UM, IN COURTS. 
          BUT DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS FILL IN FOR PATROL. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH WE ARE TAKING OUR PATROL VEHICLES AND RECYCLING THEM AND PUTTING THEM IN OTHER DIVISIONS, THEY'RE STILL REALLY HIGH MILEAGE. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BACKUP AT 800,000 TO GET EIGHT VEHICLES. 
          SO HOW MANY VEHICLES WOULD YOU GET FOR 600? SIX? OKAY. 
          I DID EIGHT FOR 800. 
          AND LAST YEAR YOU GOT, WAS IT EIGHT VEHICLES LAST YEAR? YES. 
          BUT THAT'S WHEN WE RAISED TAXES THOUGH. 
          YEAH. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          SO, UM, I'M ASK MRS. SCOTT FOR A LITTLE BIT TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE BIG SHEETS LOOK LIKE. 
          YOUR HOMEWORK. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THAT AND YOU'LL SEE ALL OF IT ONLINE. 
          IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL THERE AND YOU CAN LOOK AT IT TO YOUR HEART'S CONTENT. 
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IS THIS A PREVIEW OF THE BOX? ? NO, THIS IS THE BOX. 
          SO THIS IS THE BOX. 
          THE BOX. 
          THE BOX IS EMPTY. 
          THE BO THIS IS BALANCED. 
          UH, WE WILL ASK YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST PAGE OF THIS LITTLE HANDOUT YOU HAVE, WE WILL ASK YOU NEXT WEEK TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR JUNE THE 10TH. 
          AND AT THAT HEARING THEN YOU CAN CHANGE ANYTHING YOU WANT EXCEPT THE TOTAL, THIS IS ALL THE MONEY THAT'S IN THE BOX. 
          SO YOU, IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF HOW YOU WANT TO DISTRIBUTE IT. 
          AND AS YOU'VE SEEN, WE'VE STAFF HAS DONE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS TRYING TO MAKE THAT BOX FIT A LITTLE BETTER THIS YEAR. 
          UH, WE WOULD REQUEST THEN THAT ON MAY THE 27TH, TWO WEEKS FROM TONIGHT, WE BEGIN AT FIVE O'CLOCK AND HAVE A WORK SESSION WHERE YOU CAN GO THROUGH ALL THE LINE ITEMS, GIVE YOU THE SAME THING THAT SHE'S GOING TO SHOW YOU NOW, AND YOU CAN JUST LOOK THROUGH IT AS WE GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM. 
          AND THEN IF WE NEED ADDITIONAL DAYS, WE'LL PUT THEM IN LATER IN THE WEEK OF THE 27TH, AND THEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WOULD BE JUNE THE 10TH. 
          AND THEN YOU CAN SCHEDULE ADDITIONAL BUDGET REVIEWS AS YOU'D LIKE THERE, UH, TO LOOK AT IT FURTHER. 
          AND YOU CAN MAKE ANY CHANGES YOU WANT AFTER THE HEARING AS EXCEPT THE TOTAL. 
          THAT'S THE, THE ONE THING IS THE, THE TOTAL IS WHAT IS SET. 
          AND THEN LOOKING AT BUDGET ADOPTION ON JUNE THE 24TH. 
          SO AS A HIGH LEVEL VIEW, THE OVERALL TOTAL OF THE REVENUES IS $93,440,000. 
          AND AS DR. 
          DAILEY PRESENTED EARLIER IN HIS PIE CHARTS, A MAJORITY OF THE REVENUE 69,000,873 COMES FROM TAXES. 
          SO WE HAVE BUDGETED REAL ESTATE TAXES, PUBLIC SERVICE, PERSONAL PROPERTY, AND ALL OF THE SMALLER SUBLINES UNDERNEATH THAT. 
          AND I REALIZE YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT ANYTHING RIGHT NOW, SO I WANNA BE ABLE TO PRESENT TO YOU SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN IMAGINE. 
          UH, THIS IS GOING TO LOOK EXACTLY LIKE YOU SEE YOUR MONTHLY REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE SUMMARIES. 
          SO YOU'LL SEE IT EXACTLY HOW YOU, AS YOU SEE THOSE SUMMARIES. 
          UM, WE HAVE INCLUDED A VERY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE OF REVENUES. 
          REVENUES IS THE TRICKIER PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. 
          IT'S A ITERATIVE PROCESS BETWEEN THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE WHO ASSESSES REAL ESTATE AND PERSONAL PROPERTIES, UM, AND PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES. 
          AND SO WE'VE INCLUDED DELINQUENCIES IN THOSE AS WELL. 
          SO YOU'LL GET A SUMMARY OF THE REVENUES TOTALING 93 MILLION, AND THEN YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO GET A DETAILED EXPENDITURE LIST FROM EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND IN THAT YOU'LL SEE THE TRANSFERS TO THE OTHER FUNDS AS EXPENDITURES FROM THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO WITHOUT HAVING SOMETHING IN FRONT OF YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN GENERAL ON HOW THE REVENUE PROCESS IS RAN? MY ONLY QUESTION IS, WILL THE, UH, THE CURRENT BALANCED VERSION BE IN CLEAR GOV WHERE WE CAN GO LOOK AT EVERYTHING ONLINE? YES. 
          AND, AND THEN ALSO, COULD YOU EMAIL US THE NAME OF THAT SCENARIO? YES, I SURE CAN. 
          UM, IT IS THE FY 26 PROPOSED OR IN PROGRESS VERSION, AND IT'S ALWAYS THE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW VERSION. 
          UH, IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE INCLUDED. 
          YOU CAN'T UNSELECT IT. 
          YOU CAN ALWAYS SELECT DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF WHAT THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE REQUESTED ALONG THE WAY. 
          AS YOU KNOW, THIS PROCESS BEGINS IN OCTOBER. 
          IT STARTS WITH THE DEPARTMENTS REQUESTING WHAT THEY NEED FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. 
          AND THEN AS WE GET CLOSER TO TAX, UH, TIME, THE COMMISSIONER PROVIDES THE ASSESSMENTS WORKING WITH THE TREASURER. 
          WE ADD IN THE COLLECTION, RIGHT, FOR REAL ESTATE AND PERSONAL PROPERTY. 
          SO WE DO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE DELINQUENCIES THAT WE'VE COLLECTED AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEP. 
          SO YOU'LL GET, UM, ITEMIZED EXPENDITURES, A SUMMARY OF THE REVENUES, AND THEN IN CLEAR GOV YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED AND EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED. 
          AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN ADDITION THAT THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE PROVIDED TO YOU, LIKE QUOTES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE ATTACHMENTS OR THE COMMENTS. 
          IT'S MORE OF A JUSTIFICATION FROM THE DEPARTMENTS. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE EXPENDITURES BETWEEN, UH, NOW AND THEN, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE TWO VIA EMAIL. 
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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          I, I'D LIKE TO SAY SOME, SOME THINGS BEFORE WE ADJOURN. 
          IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE DO. 
          SO FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK EVERY THE, THE STAFF FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THIS BUDGET. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S A CHALLENGE AND, AND, AND I KNOW SOME OF OUR QUESTIONS ARE REPETITIVE LIKE MINE, BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST GOTTA PUT OUR ARMS AROUND IT AND WE GOTTA DO THE RIGHT THING. 
          SO, UM, SO I JUST WANNA TAKE A MOMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS MY FINAL WARREN COUNTY BUDGET THAT I'M GOING TO BE GOING TO BE ASSESSING, AND I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, SHARE WHAT I'VE LEARNED OVER THE FOUR YEARS OF THIS BUDGET PROCESS. 
          SO TO, TO BEGIN WITH, I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT, UM, THERE'S A PUBLIC CONVERSATION ABOUT THE DEBT THAT WE ARE FACING AND YOU KNOW, WHICH RIGHT NOW IT EXCEEDS $120 MILLION AND WHICH WE PAY. 
          OH NO, IT'S LESS THAN THAT. 
          IT'S LESS THAN THAT. 
          I WAS USING THIS, SO I WAS 20. 
          SO THAT'S CHANGED. 
          YES, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT'S THE NEW NUMBER? LESS THAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          OH, OH, AFTER THIS, THIS IS WHAT WE GOT FROM DAVENPORT. 
          DID YOU SAY LESS THAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND? OH, I'LL TAKE A LOOK AND, YEAH, YEAH. 
          I MEAN, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT HE PRESENTED TO US JUST A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. 
          BUT ANYWAY, SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS. 
          , THAT'S REALLY GOOD NEWS BECAUSE THAT MEANS WITH THE DEBT GOING DOWN THAT WE HAVE MORE MONEY TO USE FOR SERVICES GOING FORWARD BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          SO ANYWAY, SO JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME HISTORY. 
          THE FIRST YEAR I WAS IN OFFICE, I RECOGNIZED IN INFOR A BOARD THAT AT THAT TIME WAS $130 MILLION FOUR YEARS AGO, RIGHT? AND THAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON, ON OUR DEBT RATHER THAN INCREASING IT. 
          SO IN FACT, DURING MY FIRST YEAR, MY ANALOGY THAT I SHARED WITH THE COMMUNITY WAS, IS LIKE, UM, IF YOU LAID $130,000,001 BILLS IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER, IT WOULD CROSS WARREN COUNTY SIX TIMES. 
          THAT WAS MY ANALOGY BACK IN THAT TIME. 
          SO ANYWAY, SO AS THE BOARD THAT STARTED TO RECOGNIZE ABOUT THE MILLION DOLLAR ANNUAL DEBT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAD TO FREE UP TAX DOLLARS TO CONTINUE HIRING MUCH NEEDED FIRE AND RESCUE STAFF, WE NEED TO INCREASE SCHOOL PROGRAMS, WE NEEDED TO FUND PARK AND REC RENOVATIONS AND OTHER ASSET REPLACEMENTS. 
          I HAD A LOT OF LESSONS LEARNED THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FUTURE BOARD TO CONSIDER. 
          SO BEFORE I JUMP INTO THAT, I JUST WANTED TO GO THROUGH THIS TIMELINE OF HOW WE GOT HERE. 
          SO THE TIMELINE OF WHEN THE DEBT BEGAN, IT, IT, AND THIS IS BASED ON PUBLIC RECORD AND INFORMATION THAT I HAD AVAILABLE. 
          SO, UM, I WOULDN'T CALL IT EXACT, BUT IT'S PRETTY CLOSE. 
          SO THE TIMELINE WITH THE DEBT BEGAN TO GROW WAS LIKE 13 YEARS AGO WITH THEN BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVAL FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS TOTALLY IN ABOUT A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS. 
          AND I'M JUST SAYING THEY APPROVED THE PROJECTS, A LOT OF DIFFERENT COLOR OF MONEY THAT WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH THESE PROJECTS, BUT AT THAT TIME, THAT WAS EQUIVALENT TO ABOUT $15 MILLION A YEAR DURING THAT 13 YEARS. 
          SO THE BEST TO WHAT I CAN, WHERE WE STARTED ON THIS TIMELINE WAS BACK IN 2007 WHERE THERE WAS $2.5 MILLION TAX DOLLARS THAT WAS TRANSFERRED TO, AT, UM, SAMUELS INC. 
          INTO THEIR INVESTMENT FUND FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A COUNTY LIBRARY BUILDING. 
          IN THE SAME YEAR, 2007, THERE WAS $82.8 MILLION THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THE SKYLINE AND WARREN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL CAPITAL PROJECTS. 
          2008, ANOTHER $2.5 MILLION OF TAX DOLLARS WERE TRANSFERRED TO SAMUEL INC. 
          TO HOLD FOR THEIR, IN THEIR INVESTMENT FUND FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE COUNTY LIBRARY BILLING BILL, UM, BUILDING. 
          AND I THINK AT THIS POINT IS WHEN THEY STARTED THE CONSTRUCTION AT THIS TIME. 
          THEN IN 2009 THERE WAS ANOTHER $1.8 MILLION THAT WAS TRANSFERRED TO SAMUEL SINK ALSO TO HOLD IN THEIR INVESTMENT FUND TO, I THINK TO FINISH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE, OF THE LIBRARY. 
          THEN IN 2009, THE, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR, UH, ACCEPTED A LEASE OPTION TO BUY AGREEMENT IN WHICH THEY BOUGHT THE NEW, UH, 
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THE OLD, THE VILLA BUILDING, THE OLD LIBRARY BUILDING FOR ABOUT $550,000. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, THERE COULD BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT COLOR OF MONEY THAT WAS BEING PASSED, BUT, UH, UH, THAT WAS, UH, ABOUT 550,000. 
          THEN IN 2010, $24 MILLION WAS, UH, APPROVED TO RENOVATE THE OLD HIGH SCHOOL THAT WHAT WE KNOW TODAY AS THE WARREN COUNTY MILL MIDDLE SCHOOL. 
          THEN IN 2011, PAYMENTS WERE MADE TO, UH, WE MADE THE FINAL PAYMENT TO PURCHASE THE OLD LIBRARY BILLING IN VILLA AVENUE. 
          AND THAT WAS $550,000. 
          IN 2011, THERE WAS ANOTHER 10.5 MILLION THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THE NEW PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING. 
          IN 2013, THERE WAS ANOTHER 2.5 MILLION THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THE RENOVATIONS FOR OUR HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES BUILDING THAT'S OUT ON 15TH STREET. 
          RIGHT? UM, IN 200, IN 2017, THERE WAS ANOTHER 32 MILLION THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THE NEW WARREN COUNTY MIDDLE SCHOOL IN 2017. 
          NOW, I DON'T KNOW, I, THROUGH MY RESEARCH, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS SHOULD EVEN BE ON THE LIST, BUT, UM, THERE WAS SOME INVOLVEMENT, I THINK THAT WAS WITH THE FRONT ROW POLICE BUILDING. 
          I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY, BUT SOMEHOW THERE WAS SOME TYPE OF CONNECTION AT THAT TIME. 
          SO THAT'S UNKNOWN AS FAR AS HOW MUCH MONEY WAS APPROVED TO GO THROUGH THAT. 
          THEN IN 2018, UM, THERE WAS A PARTNERSHIP, UH, WITH THE TOWN TO CONSTRUCT LE LEACH RUN PARKWAY. 
          AND THEN IN 2020 THERE WAS $5.6 MILLION THAT WAS, UH, APPROVED FOR THE RIVERMONT FIRE FIRE STATION. 
          SO NOW WHERE WE ARE TODAY, AND AS MS. SCOTT CORRECTED ME THAT THE DEBT HAS GONE DOWN. 
          SO I WAS USING THIS, OKAY, SO YOU CAN CORRECT ME ANYTIME YOU WANT TO. 
          OKAY? SO FROM THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT I JUST LISTED FOR THE PAST, THOSE PAST 13, 14 YEARS THAT WE'RE STILL PAYING OFF ABOUT 125 MILLION IN DEBT. 
          AND THAT'S 'CAUSE I INCLUDED RSW IN IT, WHICH AGAIN IS A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR THAT WE PUT OUT. 
          AND NOW JUST THINK ABOUT $11 MILLION A YEAR. 
          I MEAN, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, UH, DO ROCKLAND PARK, WE CAN FUND FIRE AND RESCUE, WE CAN GIVE THE SHERIFF ALL THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UM, PATROL CARS SHE WANTS. 
          SO ANY EVENT, I KNOW I'M GETTING SIDETRACKED. 
          SO OUT OF THAT, OF THE, OF THESE APPROVALS, THESE ARE THE DEBTS THAT WE STILL HAVE THAT WE'RE PAYING ON. 
          WE'RE STILL PAYING ON THE DEBT FOR THE WARREN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL. 
          WE'RE STILL PAYING THE DEBT FOR THE LEACH RUN PARKWAY, WHICH THAT WAS PART OF THIS LIST. 
          WE'RE STILL PAYING THE DEBT FOR THE WARREN COUNTY MIDDLE SCHOOL. 
          WE'RE PAYING A DEBT FOR AN ENERGY PERFORMANCE EQUIPMENT IN SCHOOL BUILDINGS. 
          UM, WE'RE PAYING, STILL PAYING THE DEBT FOR JESS, UH, JESSE REFEREES. 
          WE'RE STILL PAYING FOR THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES BUILDING. 
          WE'RE STILL PAYING FOR THE RIVERMONT FIRE STATION. 
          AND THEN THERE'S SOME VRA AND V-S-P-A-S-P-A BONDS FOR COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH SCHOOL IMPROVEMENTS. 
          AND IT DIDN'T GET INTO DEAL DETAILS, WHAT THOSE WERE. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, RSW. 
          SO NOT ONLY DID WE GO THROUGH THIS, THIS, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BACK IN THOSE, UH, PAST YEARS, AND NOW LET'S JUST ADD SALT TO THE WOUND. 
          AND, UM, WE HAD THE EDA SCANDAL, WHICH RESULTED OF OVER $20 MILLION OF TAX DOLLARS BETWEEN 2019 AND 2024 PRIMARILY. 
          UH, IT PRIMARILY DUE TO THE LEGAL FEES AND THE EDA LOAN PAYMENTS. 
          THIS DIDN'T TALK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THE FEDERAL CASE WAS OR ANYTHING. 
          THIS WAS JUST TAX DOLLARS THAT WERE USED. 
          SO ALSO, AND THIS IS, IN MY OPINION, AND I WANNA POINT THIS OUT, THIS IS ALL MY, THIS IS, THE BOARD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. 
          THIS IS ALL IN MY OPINION THAT I, ALONG THE WAY, I SAW THAT THERE WAS SOME MISSED OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE, WE HAD AND SUCH AS THE, THE $6.8 MILLION OF THE ARPA FUNDS FOR THE BROAD BROADBAND INITIATIVE. 
          NOW, I BELIEVE THE PROJECT WAS NECESSARY. 
          WE NEED BROADBAND. 
          THERE'S NO DOUBT I LIVE IN ONE OF THOSE ISOLATED PLACES AS WELL. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, THE, WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT THE PROJECT IS BEHIND SCHEDULE AND IT HAD TO DO WITH CONS, YOU KNOW, WITH UM, DESIGN AND UM, WHICH MADE IT BE DELAYED AND, AND I GET THAT, THAT THOSE THINGS HAPPEN. 
          BUT HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THAT WE COULD HAVE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF REVISIT THE FUNDING AS IT WENT, WENT, WENT 
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ALONG, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE HAD TO LOCK IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT IN DECEMBER, 'CAUSE AFTER DECEMBER IS WHEN I FOUND OUT THROUGH ONE OF THE PRESENTATIONS THAT BROADBAND WAS UP HERE, THAT, UM, THAT THERE WAS A REDUCTION ABOUT 50% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF THE PROJECT PLAN. 
          AND IF I WAS AWARE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT SOONER THAT MAYBE WE MAY HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THOSE, THOSE, THOSE FUNDS THAT WERE NOT GONNA BE USED FOR THAT 50% AND MAYBE USED IT FOR PURCHASING FIRE AND RESCUE EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAD TO LOCK IN THE FUNDS BY END OF DECEMBER OF 2024. 
          SO, BUT I JUST WANNA, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT IT ON A, ON A POSITIVE SENSE. 
          SO I GO, THESE ARE THE LESSONS LEARNED. 
          THIS IS HOW WE GOT HERE AND THIS IS WHY IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE. 
          AND WE PICK ON, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH THE SCHOOLS GET, HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS GET, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE GOTTA, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BALANCE THINGS. 
          SO ANYWAY, SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ALSO SEIZED OPPORTUNITIES TO ENHANCE THE REVENUES AND EFFICIENCIES OF THE COUNTY DOC DEPARTMENTS IN THE PAST FOUR YEARS. 
          THIS WHICH HAS OFFSET THE REVENUE LOSS TO THE ALL OF THIS COUNTY DEBT. 
          FOR, FOR INSTANCE, FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAD REDUCED REOCCURRING COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE EDA BY ABOUT $1.5 MILLION. 
          THIS WAS ACHIEVED BY ELIMINATING PAYMENTS THAT WERE RELATED TO THE EDA DEBT. 
          AND, AND NOW THAT WE'VE GOT, WE'VE PASSED THROUGH THE, THE LEGALS, THERE'S NO MORE LEGAL FEES. 
          ALSO, THE BOARD REVIEWED ZONING BUILDING, ZONING, BUILDING INSPECTION, AND TRANSFER TRANSFERS FEES THAT HAD NOT BEEN UPDATED IN OVER 20 YEARS. 
          THIS REVIEW HELPED TO OFFSET THE TAXPAYER SUBSIDY FOR THE PLANNING, INSPECTION COSTS WELL, AS WELL AS OUR PUBLIC WORK EXPENSES. 
          I ALSO WANNA ADD THAT THERE WERE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT WERE GAINED THOUGH THE PAST FOUR YEARS WITH THE BOARD. 
          WELL, UH, ONE IS THE COUNTY TREASURER PRIORITIZED RESOURCES, STARTED COLLECTING DELINQUENT TAXES, AND THEN WE STARTED COLLECTING FEES. 
          THAT'S KIND OF HELPED US. 
          I THINK THE LAST NUMBER THAT I WAS GIVEN WAS $3.5 MILLION. 
          I THINK SHE, SHE IS WORKING WORK HAS, HAS RECOVERED. 
          UM, ALSO OUR TREASURER HAS WORKED WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION, AND I KNOW IT WAS PAINFUL THAT WE WORK TOGETHER AND, AND NOW THERE WE'RE TRANSFERRING, UM, FUNDS TO A FINANCIAL INSTITUTION THAT HIRES A, THAT BRINGS IN A HIGHER RETURN ON INVESTMENTS. 
          SO THAT HELPS US WITH OUR ANNUAL CASH FLOW. 
          THAT HELPS US USE SOME OF THIS MONEY TO OTHER LITTLE PROJECTS AND OFFSET OTHER EXPENSES. 
          SO ALSO DURING MY FIRST YEAR, THE, WE ALSO WORKED WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO TRANSFER $20 MILLION IN A UNUSED TAX DOLLAR SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND THAT WAS NOT BEING REPORTED IN THE ANNUAL BUDGET. 
          AND AS A RESULT, THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE THE ASSET REPLACEMENT FUND. 
          NOW. 
          WE TOOK THAT MONEY AND WE PUT IT INTO THIS FUND. 
          SO NOW IT'S VISIBLE AND TRANSPARENT TO EVERYBODY. 
          AND NOW WE'RE BUYING, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, VEHICLES AND IT EQUIPMENT AND THAT KIND OF THING. 
          UM, AND THEN THE FINANCE AUDIT COMMITTEE WE ESTABLISHED, AND THAT ALSO REVIEWS COUNTY POLICIES AND IT PROVIDES, AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ENHANCING INTERNAL CONTROLS SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO LEARN THE BOUNDARIES OF HAVING A LACK OF INTERNAL CONTROLS. 
          AND THIS IMPROVES TRANSPARENCY. 
          SO ANYWAY, SO THIS HAS ALL TAKEN ME BACK, YOU KNOW, WHERE I STARTED HERE WITH THE ASSESSMENT AND THE CHALLENGE THAT THE BOARD FACES IN BALANCING REVENUES WITH COSTS OF PROVIDING ESSENTIAL SERVICES, SUCH AS, AGAIN, PUBLIC SAFETY EDUCATION, SOCIAL SERVICES, PUBLIC WORKS ZONING, ANIMAL CONTROL, BUILDING INSPECTIONS, AND MUCH MORE. 
          SO I WANNA JUST ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO LEARN FROM THE PAST CAPITAL AND DEBT DECISIONS, THE PRIOR BOARDS, AND TO CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON INNOVATIVE IN INITIATIVES TO GET US THROUGH THIS, THESE INITIATIVES THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. 
          I BELIEVE IT WILL INCREASE REVENUE AND EFFICIENCIES THAT WILL HELP US PAY OFF THIS DEBT. 
          AND THUS, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S GONNA BE MINIMIZING TAXES FOR OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ALL OUT ON THE TABLE. 
          UM, BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND EVERY YEAR WE GET 
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CRITICIZED EVERY YEAR. 
          YOU KNOW, EVERYONE WANTS THIS, EVERYBODY WANTS THAT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, AND WE KEEP SAYING WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. 
          AND I THINK WE'RE GETTING BETTER THOUGH. 
          I THINK WE'RE BETTER. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING AHEAD. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, JUST SHARE THE HISTORY HOW WE GOT HERE. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          WELL, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS FOR THAT, PLEASE. 
          UM, I KNOW WE WERE IN A LOT OF DEBT. 
          I THINK THE YEAR THAT I DECIDED TO RUN, WE WERE, UM, 150 TO 160 MAYBE THOUSAND, UH, MILLION IN DEBT. 
          UM, BUT I'LL TELL YOU FROM GOING TO SCHOOLS HERE, FROM FIRST GRADE TO 12TH GRADE, THAT THE, A LOT OF THAT WAS INVESTMENT IN OUR CHILDREN, IN THE FUTURE OF OUR CHILDREN BECAUSE THE SCHOOLS WERE IN BAD SHAPE, UM, WINDOWS, THERE WAS NO AIR CONDITIONING IN THE HIGH SCHOOL. 
          THERE WAS NO AIR CONDITIONING IN RUSTY JEFFRIES. 
          UM, YOU COULDN'T OPEN WINDOWS, YOU COULDN'T, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, THEY WERE DILAPIDATED AND A NEED. 
          I KNOW I GRADUATED IN 1977 AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME PEOPLE HERE THAT GRADUATED BEFORE ME, AND WE WERE ASSURED THAT WE WOULD BE GRADUATING FROM A NEW HIGH SCHOOL WHEN I WAS IN, UM, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DIDN'T HAPPEN. 
          SO THE CAN WAS KICKED AND IT WAS KICKED AND IT WAS KICKED. 
          AND SO, YES, THERE WAS A HUGE INVESTMENT. 
          BUT LOOK AT THE SCHOOLS THAT OUR CHILDREN HAVE TO GO TO NOW. 
          SO ANYTIME YOU INVEST IN THE CHILDREN, YOU'RE INVESTING IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND THAT'S MONEY I THINK IS WELL SPENT. 
          I, YOU KNOW, COLOR OF MONEY IS WHAT IT IS. 
          AND I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND DEBATE IF EVERYTHING WAS DONE A HUNDRED PERCENT KOSHER. 
          I, I CAN'T TESTIFY TO THAT BECAUSE I WASN'T LIVING IN THE MOMENT OF IT. 
          BUT I WILL SAY THAT WE MADE A DECISION TO PAY DOWN DEBT AND NOT GET OURSELVES IN MORE DEBT. 
          AND WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF THAT. 
          I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. 
          BUT TO SAY IN A DISPARAGING WAY, IT SEEMED THAT DECISIONS OF PRIOR BOARDS TO GET US IN THAT DEBT WAS A MISTAKE. 
          I DON'T THINK IT WAS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SCHOOLS, WE HAVE THE BUILDINGS AND THE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BENEFITED THIS COMMUNITY. 
          AND I WASN'T TRYING TO SAY IT WAS A MISTAKE. 
          I WAS JUST GOING DOWN THE TIMELINE, IT FELT LIKE, OF HOW WE, HOW WE GOT HERE. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          WELL, IT FELT LIKE IT WAS, AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S A FAIR ASSUMPTION OR STATEMENT. 
          WHEN WE DO HAVE THE SCHOOLS, AND MAYBE BECAUSE NONE OF YOU WENT TO THE SCHOOLS HERE, YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF WHAT POOR CONDITION THEY WERE IN, BUT THEY WERE, UM, THE CHILDREN OF THIS COMMUNITY STILL ARE IN SOME INADEQUATE PLACES FOR THE NEEDS THEY HAVE. 
          UM, IT'S JUST A SIMPLE FACT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT YOUR STATEMENT WAS TOTALLY FAIR, UM, THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED. 
          AND I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT. 
          WELL, AGAIN, AGAIN, THAT IF THAT WAS HOW IT WAS INTERPRETED, I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE, WHAT MY MESSAGE WAS. 
          IT WAS JUST LAYING OUT HOW WE GOT HERE AND THE, AND LESSONS LEARNED THAT WE CAN TAKE AWAY FROM IT. 
          THAT'S ALL IT WAS FOR ANYTHING ELSE? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE.
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