Nov 05, 2025 Board of Supervisors Meeting

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AND GENTLEMEN.

[A. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America]

AND, UH, THIS IS A REGULAR MEETING THAT, UH, WAS MOVED TO WEDNESDAY BECAUSE OF, UH, ELECTION DAY YESTERDAY.

AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF THE, THE FOLKS WHO WON THE ELECTIONS YESTERDAY.

AND, UH, UM, SO WE WILL GET STARTED.

UM, PLEASE EVERYBODY RISE FOR PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES STATE OF AMERICA, AND FOR WHICH ONE NATION UNDER GOD, THE LIBERTY JUSTICE FOR ALL.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU'LL, UH, WELCOME, UH, BOBBY STEP, HE WILL LEAD US IN, UH, IN A PRAYER.

AS ALWAYS, WE WANT TO THANK THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR GIVING US THE, THE PRIVILEGE TO COME AND, AND OPEN UP, UH, THESE MEETINGS, UH, WITH PRAYER.

SO, IF WE COULD, LET'S GO TO THE LORD.

FATHER, WE, WE PRAY FOR YOU TO BE WITH US TONIGHT AS, UH, WE DESIRE TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US, OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES, THE FREEDOMS, THE THINGS FATHER THAT WE HOLD DEAR AS A, AS A NATION, AND AS A STATE, AND AS A COUNTY.

FATHER, WE, UH, ASK YOUR BLESSING OVER THOSE AT THE FRONT HERE TONIGHT, WHO ARE MAKING DECISIONS THAT ARE LEADING AND GUIDING OUR COUNTY.

WE PRAY FOR WISDOM THERE.

WE, WE PRAY FOR FAIRNESS.

WE PRAY FOR YOU TO, TO GIVE THEM A, A DISCERNMENT, AN UNDERSTANDING, UH, ABOUT THE THINGS, THE ISSUES BEFORE THEM.

AND FOR THOSE OF US THAT ARE HERE TO, TO SPEAK.

FATHER, WE THANK YOU.

AND MAY WE TOO BE GOOD SPIRITS OF OUR GOOD STEWARDS, OF THE, UM, FREEDOM THAT WE HAVE TO, TO SPEAK OUR MINDS, THAT WE MIGHT BE LOOKING FATHER, FOR THE, UH, THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST SERVING SELF.

AND SO WE THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE PRIVILEGES OF, OF, UM, OUR GOVERNMENT.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE THINGS THAT HAVE, UM, TRANSPIRED EVEN YESTERDAY.

FATHER, AS YOU WALKED, UH, OUR STATE, UH, AND COUNTY THROUGH, UH, THE ELECTIONS, AGAIN, WE JUST PRAY TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US.

AND SO WE THANK YOU AND WE PRAISE YOU ALL OF THIS IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS.

AMEN.

AMEN.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, NEXT ON THE

[B. Adoption of Agenda – Additions or Deletions]

BEFORE WE DISCUSS THE AGENDA, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE, UH, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, UM, THE, UH, UH, THE, THE COMMENT PERIOD FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, UH, CAME AT AT THE LAST, WE JUST NEED TO SWAP THOSE.

SO THE, UH, THE FIRST, UH, COMMENT PERIOD, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WILL BE FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

AND THE SECOND COMMENT PERIOD WILL BE FOR ANY OTHER ITEMS. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

SO AT THIS POINT, DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA? IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE.

WE ACCEPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

I HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

THAT DO ROLL CALL OR YEAH, ROLL CALL.

WE'LL, WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL.

I, UM, MR. HENRY.

AYE.

DR.

JAMISON? AYE.

MR. CHAIRMAN? AYE.

MR. STAN MEYER? AYE.

MR. SCHOLARS? AYE.

OKAY, MR. YOU, SO NEXT WE HAVE, UH,

[C. Warren County Sheriff's Office Promotions and New Personnel ]

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS IS ALWAYS ONE OF THE MORE ENJOYABLE PORTIONS.

SO, SHERIFF KLEIN, GOOD EVENING.

MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TIME TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO INTRODUCE SOME OF OUR EXCITING PERSONNEL CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED AT WARREN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE SINCE WE WERE LAST UP HERE IN JULY.

UH, WE'D LIKE TO START OFF TO,

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WE'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UH, SOME NEW FACES IN OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE DIVISION.

UH, THESE DEPUTIES ARE WORKING HARD TO KEEP OUR SCHOOL SAFE, UNFORTUNATELY.

UH, THE FIRST ONE IS, WAS UNABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT, UM, HER NAME IS LINDSAY KNOWLES.

SHE CAME TO US FROM PAGE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE WITH FOUR YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.

AND WHEN SHE'S NOT, UH, ENJOYING OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES LIKE HUNTING AND FISHING, SHE SERVES AS A 14 U TRAVEL SOFTBALL COACH FOR THE SHENANDOAH SPARKS.

HMM, UH, UNFORTUNATELY SHE COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT.

UH, STARTING OFF OVER HERE TO MY LEFT DEPUTY, UH, CHRISTOPHER SSIS, UH, HE IS ASSIGNED TO, UH, RUSTY JEFFRIES ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

DEPUTY SSIS.

SPENT 10 YEARS WITH THE FREDERICK COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE BEFORE JOINING THE WARREN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

SS HAS PREVIOUSLY SERVED ON THE HONOR GUARD TEAM, AND NOW WHEN HE'S NOT ON DUTY, HE ENJOYS CHEERING ON HIS GRANDCHILDREN AT THEIR OWN SPORTING EVENTS.

UH, NEXT TO HIM, UH, WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UH, ASSIGNED TO WARREN COUNTY MIDDLE SCHOOL DEPUTY JOHN CHRIS, JOHN CHRISTOPHER.

DEPUTY CHRISTOPHER WAS PREVIOUSLY ASSIGNED TO PATROL NARCOTICS, THE GANG UNIT, BICYCLE UNIT CRASH INVESTIGATIONS AND EVIDENCE DURING HIS LONG 22 YEAR CAREER AT PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY POLICE.

UH, BEFORE JOINING US HERE AT THE WARREN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, WENT OFF DUTY.

DEPUTY CHRISTOPHER LIKES, UH, JUST LIKE DEPUTY KNOWLES, HE LIKES ACT DOOR ACTIVITIES, AND HE ALSO HELPS COACH THE WARREN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL BASEBALL TEAM.

UH, THESE ARE, UH, I'M SORRY, DIDN'T, UH, DEPUTY KNOWLES IS ASSIGNED TO SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL.

UM, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE NEW ADDITIONS TO OUR SRO DIVISION.

UH, UP NEXT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE TWO DEPUTIES THAT HAVE RECENTLY COMPLETED LAW ENFORCEMENT BASIC CLASS NUMBER 16 FROM THE SKYLINE REGIONAL CRIMINAL JUSTICE ACADEMY.

UH, THESE, UH, TWO DEPUTIES HAVE COMPLETED, UH, THEIR TRAINING AND THEIR FIELD TRAINING PROCESS, AND YOU'LL SEE THEM OUT IN THE COMMUNITY PATROLLING THE NEIGHBOR, UH, THE FIRST ONE HERE, UM, LOGAN ATCHISON.

HE IS CURRENTLY ASSIGNED TO PATROL.

HE'S HAS, UH, BEEN THERE SINCE SEPTEMBER.

UH, BEFORE GOING TO THE ACADEMY, HE JOINED THE WARREN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN 2021 AT JUST 18 YEARS OF AGE, UH, AS AN E 9 1 1 DISPATCHER IN OUR COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION.

UM, DYLAN STOCKDALE OVER HERE TO MY RIGHT, UH, IS CURRENTLY ALSO ASSIGNED TO PATROL.

BEFORE BECOMING THE DEPUTY, DEPUTY STOCKDALE WORKED AT WALMART AS AN ASSET PROTECTION MANAGER.

DEPUTY STOCKDALE, DURING HIS TIME AT THE ACADEMY, EARNED THE TOP SKILLS AWARD FOR DRIVING DEFENSIVE TACTICS AND FIREARMS, UH, DURING HIS BASIC CLASS.

THESE TWO DEPUTIES HAVE ATTENDED 20 WEEKS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT BASIC IN MIDDLETOWN, AND THEY HAVE COMPLETED 12 WEEKS OF FIELD TRAINING, WHICH IS ON THE JOB TRAINING WHILE HE ASSIGNED TO A FIELD TRAINING OFFICER.

UM, AND LAST BUT NOT CER CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE TWO, UH, NOT SO NEW FACES, UH, AROUND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

UH, THEY HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED TO OUR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION.

UH, UNFORTUNATELY, UM, ONE COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT.

TYSON RO UH, TYSON RO BEGAN HIS CAREER IN 2007.

HE WORKED IN PATROL.

HE WAS ALSO ASSIGNED TO THE NORTHWEST VIRGINIA REGIONAL DRUG AND GANG TASK FORCE.

UH, HE RELOCATED OUTTA STATE IN 2016, BUT DECIDED TO COME BACK TO HIS HOME HERE AT THE WARREN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN 2023 WHEN HE REJOINED US.

AND IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR, HE WAS, UH, ACCEPTED TO THE POSITION OF INVESTIGATOR AND CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS.

AND, UH, DOWN HERE TO THE RIGHT IS, UH, LAURA PHILLIPS.

UH, DEPUTY PHILLIPS WAS PREVIOUSLY ASSIGNED AS ONE OF OUR FOUR ANIMAL CONTROL DEPUTIES, UH, BEFORE BEING SELECTED FOR INVESTIGATIONS.

UH, SHE JOINED THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AS A DISPATCHER IN 2008, AND, UH, IN THE SAME YEAR, SHE COMPLETED THE BASIC ACADEMY AND BEGAN HER CAREER AS AN ANIMAL CONTROL DEPUTY.

AND HAS BEEN, UH, DOING THAT EVER SINCE BEFORE ACCEPTING THE POSITION OF INVESTIGATOR, UH, HERE IN AUGUST AT THE WARREN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, SHE'S ASSIGNED A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION.

SO, UH, AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THE TIME TO BE HERE TO INTRODUCE, UH, THE EVER-CHANGING FACE OF THE WARREN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

AND, UH, WE'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE ALL OF OUR, UH, NEW AND NOT SO NEW PERSONNEL AND THEIR CHANGES.

I DID WANT TO, UM, TELL YOU THAT I CAN'T THANK MY MAJOR ENOUGH, MAJOR WINTER, UM, WHILE I WAS GONE AT THE FBI NATIONAL ACADEMY.

HE KEPT THINGS MOVING FORWARD.

AND THAT INCLUDED HIRING PEOPLE, GETTING PEOPLE THROUGH THE FTO PROCESS AND DOING THAT FINAL INTERVIEW THAT WE DO TO OFFICIALLY GET THEM OFF THAT I MISSED.

AND I LOVE AS, AS WELL AS ALL THE PROMOTIONS.

AND I THOUGHT IT WAS ONLY A FIT.

HE, HE DID THIS IN JULY AND DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.

AND, UM, THIS IS HIS WORK THAT HE DID WHILE I WAS GONE.

UM, WE JUST KEPT THE, THE TRAIN MOVING AND I, I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH.

AND, UM, MY CAPTAINS, UM, THIS IS A TRIBUTE TO THEM, REALLY.

SO THANK YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR CHOOSING TO WORK FOR WARREN COUNTY.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

NEXT ON THE, UH, AGENDA IS OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD,

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SO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD SHALL BE LIMITED TO 60 MINUTES DIVIDED INTO TWO 30 MINUTE SEGMENTS.

THE FIRST 30 MINUTE PERIOD IS LIMITED TO COMMENTS PERTAINING TO ITEMS WHICH ARE ON THE MEETING AGENDA NOT ADDRESSED IN PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THE SECOND 30 MINUTE PERIOD IS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS.

AS A REMINDER, THERE IS A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES FOR ANY ONE SPEAKER.

SPEAKERS MAY ONLY SPEAK ONCE PER MEETING AND MAY NOT SPEAK DURING BOTH COMMENT PERIODS.

ALL COMMENT, UH, ALL COMMENTS WILL BE DIRECTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND NOT TO THE AUDIENCE.

BE CONSIDERATE OF YOUR FELLOW SPEAKERS.

THERE SHOULD BE NO APPLAUSE, BOOING, OR OTHER AUDIBLE DISRUPTION TO PROCEEDINGS.

THROUGH A SHOW OF HANDS, THE CHAIRMAN MAY ASK FOR A SHOW OF SUPPORT FOR COMMENTS MADE BY SPEAKERS, PLACARDS, POSTERS, AND OTHER MEANS OF VISUAL DISPLAY WILL NOT BE PERMITTED IN THE BOARD MEETING ROOM.

THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE INFORMATION OR MATERIALS USED AS PART OF A FACTUAL PRESENTATION OF THE BOARD AT THE HEARING.

THE BOARD WILL NOT TOLERATE PERSONAL ATTACKS BY ANYONE ON ANY OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROCEEDINGS.

ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THE GUIDELINES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING MAY BE ASKED TO LEAVE BY THE CHAIRMAN.

FAILURE TO LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING WHEN ASKED TO DO SO IS IN VIOLATION OF WARREN COUNTY CODE 56 DASH FOUR AND VIRGINIA CODE 18.2 DASH FOUR 15 AND IS SUBJECT TO A FINE OF UP TO $2,500 IN A JAIL SENTENCE OF UP TO 12 MONTHS OR BOTH.

FINALLY, PLEASE REFRAME FROM USING INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE IN YOUR COMMENTS.

YOUNG CHILDREN MAY BE VIEWING THIS SESSION EITHER IN PERSON OR LATER ONLINE, AND PEOPLE WILL PROBABLY HAVE LESS TENDENCY TO TAKE YOUR COMMENTS SERIOUSLY IF INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE IS USED.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION.

UM, MR. HENDERSON, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP? UH, NO SIR.

NOT FOR AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY.

WOULD ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.

FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS CLOSED.

OKAY.

REPORTS

[E. Reports – Board Members, County Administrator, County Attorney]

UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UH, BE THE LEAD OFF BATTER THERE? UH, SIR.

OH, SURE.

YEAH.

THERE, I'M ON.

OH, I HAVEN'T BEEN VERY HERE VERY LONG, SO I HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET AS MUCH DONE AS I WAS LIKE.

UH, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MINUTE TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT PARTICIPATED IN OUR ELECTION YESTERDAY.

UM, I KNOW I WAS RUNNING UNPOSED, BUT I DID, UH, I DID GO OUT AND WORK THE POLLS, ESPECIALLY FOR THE REPUBLICAN COMMITTEE, UH, HANDING OUT BALLOTS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WORKING THAT AWAY.

IT WAS GOOD TO, UH, IT WAS GOOD TO BE THERE ALL DAY.

UH, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE 'EM EVERY DAY AND IT, UH, IT WAS GOOD TO, YOU KNOW, SHAKE EVERYONE'S HAND AND, UH, MET SOME NEW FACES TOO.

SO, UM, I ENDED UP WITH SOME CARDS AND SOME NUMBERS AND, AND A FEW THINGS.

SO I'M, UH, I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE STILL.

AND, UH, I'LL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO STARTING A FULL TERM IN JANUARY, UH, AFTER THE, UH, SUCCESS OF THE ELECTION.

AND, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU, DR.

JAMESON.

UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CONGRATULATE HUGH AND MR. CARTER FOR THEIR ELECTION VICTORIES.

UM, I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME DIFFERENCES AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO FINDING PLACES WHERE WE HAVE COMMON GROUND AND WE'LL WORK TOGETHER.

I'M CONFIDENT THAT THAT'LL HAPPEN.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT.

ALRIGHT, SIR.

UH, LIKEWISE MY CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYBODY WHO WON YESTERDAY.

AND, UH, I WAS ABLE TO PRIVATELY REACH OUT AND, UH, CONGRATULATE, UH, OUR TWO NEW SUPERVISORS.

OF COURSE, AS I MENTIONED, IT WAS A FOREGONE CONCLUSION FOR YOU, UH, HUGH.

UH, BUT, UH, I STILL THINK IT WAS A BIG DEAL AND, UH, CONGRATULATIONS.

UM, THE, UH, ONLY OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO REPORT IS JUST YESTERDAY I WAS REACHED OUT TO BY THE SHANNON DORA SHORES PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION.

THEY HAD VOTED IN THEIR, UH, BOARD MEETING ON MONDAY NIGHT TO REQUEST A TRAFFIC CALLING STUDY ON SHANNON DORA SHORES ROAD, UH, WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF, OF THAT ASSOCIATION.

AND, UH, UM, I WAS HOPING TO ACTUALLY, UH, MOVE SOME THINGS ALONG TOWARD A AGENDA ITEM TO BE ADDED TONIGHT.

UH, BUT IT DIDN'T COME ALL TOGETHER, UH, YET.

UH, AND I THINK WHAT WILL PROBABLY HAPPEN IS, UH, REQUESTING, UH, SOMEONE FROM THAT POA BOARD TO COME TO OUR WORK SESSION NEXT WEEK AND PRESENT THEIR REQUEST FORMALLY.

UH, THE WAY IT WORKS, UH, IS THAT VDOT HAS A, A PROCESS FOR

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UH, THOSE CRITERIA, I BELIEVE, HAVE ALL BEEN MET, UH, AND THEN AN ENGINEERING STUDY TO BE FOLLOWED BY POTENTIAL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A TRAFFIC CALMING, UH, SOLUTION TO BE PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, FOR COMMENT.

AND THEN FOR FINAL, UH, BOARD SIGN OFF BEFORE IT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED.

SO THINGS LIKE SPEED BUMPS OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF SOLUTION TO, UH, REDUCE INSTANCES OF, OF SPEEDING AND RECKLESS DRIVING THAT ARE ENDANGERING PEDESTRIANS AND, AND RESIDENTS AND EVEN PETS ON, UH, UH, THAT WINDY, HILLY PART OF CHAND SHORES ROAD.

SO, UH, I, UH, HOPE THAT THAT WILL BE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR OUR WORK SESSION NEXT WEEK, AND I'LL WORK WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR KOHLERS.

UH, YES, SIR.

UM, OCTOBER 22ND, I, UM, WENT TO THE BLUE RIDGE VO-TECH BUILDING.

THEY HAVE WHAT THEY CALL A CT MEAL MEETING.

UH, AND IT'S A DINNER MEETING WHERE, UM, DIFFERENT ITEMS OF INTEREST OF WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE VO-TECH ARE DISCUSSED.

AND, UM, THE STUDENTS THERE PREPARE THE MEAL.

UM, THOSE, THOSE STUDENTS DO A PHENOMENAL JOB.

YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IN A FIVE STAR RESTAURANT WHEN THEY FEED YOU.

AND, UM, TOOK ANOTHER TOUR OF THE BUILDING.

THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE NEW THERE THAT HADN'T TAKEN IT.

AND, UM, JUST A GOOD GROUP OF PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER TO SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT, UM, FACILITY, UH, BETTER.

THERE'S SO MANY STUDENTS THAT WANNA PARTICIPATE IN PROGRAMS AND NOT ENOUGH SEATS IN THE ROOM FOR ALL OF THEM.

SO IT'S SO WORK IN PROGRESS THERE.

ON THE 23RD, I WAS INVITED TO ATTEND THE, UM, DINNER MEETING OF THE EDUCATIONAL ENDOWMENT THAT WAS STARTED BACK IN THE EARLY NINETIES, I BELIEVE.

UM, JOHN MARLOW WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT SPEARHEADED THAT.

AND, UM, THAT ENDOWMENT GIVES OUT.

I THINK THIS YEAR THEY GAVE OUT 80 SOME THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF, UM, UM, MONEY TO DIFFERENT TEACHERS FOR DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS IN THEIR CLASSROOMS. THEY PUT IN, UM, UH, AN APPLICATION AND THERE'S ARE CONSIDERED AND THEN PICKED, UH, BY THE ENDOWMENT COUNCIL.

AND A LOT OF THINGS ARE PROGRAMS THAT TEACHERS WANT TO TRY TO IMPLEMENT, AND THIS WAY THEY CAN IMPLEMENT IT AND NOT CAUSE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM A LOT OF MONEY FOR SOMETHING THAT MAYBE DOESN'T WORK OUT.

SO IT'S, UM, THEY DO A LOT OF GOOD THINGS.

UM, OCTOBER 25TH, I WENT UP TO THE FOUR EIGHT CENTER.

THEY DID A FUNDRAISER, GALA, UM, WONDERFUL EVENT.

THEY, THAT, UM, DINING ROOM WENT FROM LOOKING LIKE IT WAS A SEVENTIES, NEED A REMODEL TO THE MOST, YOU FELT LIKE YOU WERE IN FERRY LAND.

THEY DID A WONDERFUL JOB AND THEY'RE TRYING TO RAISE MONEY TO SPRUCE IT UP.

IT'S A VERY UNDERUTILIZED PLACE IN, UM, LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH MS. TENET ON, UM, GETTING THAT USED A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE COMMUNITY.

ON THE 26TH, UM, I WENT TO THE FOUR H CLUBS.

THEY HAVE AN ANNUAL AWARDS BANQUET THAT WAS AT RIVERMONT FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE ROOM WAS FULL OF KIDS.

I'M GLAD TO SEE FOUR H IS, UH, BACK TO FLOURISHING AND KIDS WERE GETTING AWARDS FROM ANYTHING FROM SHOWING ANIMALS TO PUBLIC SPEAKING AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

FOUR H IS A GREAT PROGRAM, SO IF YOU HAVE KIDS, YOU SHOULD GET THEM INVOLVED OR GRANDKIDS.

UM, THE 28TH I WENT TO THE CHAMBER HAS A MONTHLY, UM, WHAT THEY CALL AFTER HOURS EVENT WITH NETWORKING.

I DON'T USUALLY GET TO GO TO THOSE 'CAUSE I'M HERE, SO I DID GET TO ATTEND THAT ONE.

IT'S, UH, REALLY NICE TO SEE ALL THE BUSINESS PEOPLE GET TOGETHER AND NETWORK ON HOW TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER.

UM, ON THE, UH, BUSINESSES WE HAVE HERE LOCALLY, SMALL BUSINESSES, AND, UH, LEFT THERE AND WENT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD BUDGET MEETING.

UM, REALLY LIKED THAT PROCESS AND LOOKING FORWARD TO GOING OUT THERE AND SITTING AROUND THE TABLE AND WORKING ON A BUDGET INSTEAD OF THE WAY WE DO IT IN HERE.

THAT'S ALWAYS MADE ME UNCOMFORTABLE TO SIT UP HERE AND HAVE THEM DOWN THERE.

UM, ON THE 29TH, THERE WAS A CONSERVATION GATHERING AT THE BROWNTOWN COMMUNITY CENTER THAT I HOPE THEY DO IT AGAIN.

AND IF YOU GET THE OPPORTUNITY, EVEN IF YOU DON'T LIVE

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THE ROOM WAS FULL, IT WAS PACKED.

AND JUST A GREAT EVENT OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES AND THINGS FOR, UM, PROTECTING, UH, OUR LAND AND PROPERTIES.

AND ON THE 30TH WE HAD ANOTHER TOURISM MEETING WHERE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH A LOT OF PLANS FOR THE 250TH BIRTHDAY AMONGST OTHER THINGS.

AND WE CONTINUE TO BRING IN MORE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, UM, CAN SUPPORT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THAT.

AND THEN I LEFT THERE AND WENT TO THE VO COMMONWEALTH TRANSPORTATION MEETING THAT WAS AT SHANDOR UNIVERSITY.

AND THAT MEETING WAS ON THE PROJECTS THAT THEY HAD PLANNED FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS ON, UH, INTERSTATE 81.

THEY'VE GOT A HUGE AMOUNT OF PROJECTS FROM ONE END OF 81 TO THE OTHER.

AND THE AREAS THEY WERE DISCUSSING WERE IN THIS REGION.

AND, UM, SO FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS, YOU CAN EXPECT A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION THINGS TO BE GOING ON TO IMPROVE, UM, TRAFFIC PATTERNS, CONGESTION, AND THAT THING KIND OF THING ON, UH, 81 AND JUST AGAIN, ONE, UH, TODAY I WENT TO, UM, DECA, WHICH IS DISTRIBUTED EDUCATION.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE CNA IS, BUT MOST OF US, IF YOU WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL, YOU KNOW WHAT THE DECA PROGRAM IS.

THEY ARE TEACHING CHILDREN BUSINESS SKILLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY'RE GETTING READY FOR COMPETITION.

SO TODAY WAS A, UH, PRACTICE SESSION FOR NEXT WEEK WHERE THEY'LL GO TO REGIONALS, I THINK, UH, IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING OVER AT THE APPLE BLOSSOM MALL.

SO A GROUP OF US WERE ASKED TO BE JUDGES AND, UM, THEY HAD TO COME UP AND THE KIDS THAT I HAD WERE PRESENTING STRATEGIES FOR HOW TO GET, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS VERY APPROPRIATE, MORE PEOPLE FROM THE AGE OF 18 TO 24 TO REGISTER TO VOTE.

SO, UH, AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES ON THAT.

SO IT WAS REALLY, IT WAS INTERESTING AND THESE KIDS ARE REALLY WORKING HARD, UH, HAD A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS AND I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE MR. HENRY, GLAD TO HAVE YOU UP HERE, AND THAT YOU'LL BE HERE FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS.

UH, AND MR. CARTER, UH, MS. JONES AND MR. KLEIN, UH, THEY ALL, UM, ARE GONNA BE VERY VALUABLE TO THIS COUNTY AND MOVE US IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF THEM.

AS FAR AS THE SHADO SHORES, I TOO, UH, WAS EMAILED BY, UH, I HOPE I DON'T SAY HER NAME WRONG, BUT MS. RUBLE.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I OFFERED, UM, TO PUT HER ON THE AGENDA FOR OUR TRANSPORTATION MEETING WHERE WE COULD SIT DOWN WITH VDOT.

I THINK A WORK SESSION IS FINE, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE VDOT HERE, WE DON'T REALLY ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING EXCEPT HEARING THEIR, THEIR NEED AND CONCERN FOR WANTING TO DO THE STUDY.

SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE PUT IT ON TRANSPORTATION MEETING AND TRY TO GET THAT.

I TALKED TO ED CARTER TODAY AND, UM, IT'S ON HIS RADAR.

UM, AND THEN BRING IT EITHER TO THE BOARD FOR A MEETING OR, UM, A WORK SESSION TO DISTRIBUTE THAT INFORMATION OUT.

I JUST FEEL LIKE GOING TO A WORK SESSION WITHOUT, UH, VDOT, WE'RE STILL NOT GONNA KNOW WHAT WE, YOU KNOW, WHAT VDOT.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION THERE.

AND THAT'S THE END OF MY REPORT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SUPERVISOR CLOVER, UH, FROM MY REPORT, I JUST WANTED TO AGAIN SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE, UH, UH, TO, TO YOU, SIR AND, UH, TO MR. CARTER.

UM, THE, UM, NEXT WEEK, UH, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING, UH, ON THE 13TH, THURSDAY, NOVEMBER THE 13TH, 6:00 PM AND DIVERSIFIED MINES MEETING ROOM 4 65 WEST 15TH STREET, AND THAT'S A JOINT WORK SESSION WITH THE WARREN COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD.

AND, UH, THE, UH, AND JUST WANTED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT I PROBABLY WILL NOT BE HERE FOR THAT MEETING THE 13TH.

AND I DEFINITELY NOT BE HERE FOR THE, UH, NEXT REGULAR MEETING ON THE 18TH OF NOVEMBER.

THAT'S, UH, THAT'S OUR 30TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY ON THE 18TH.

AND IF I CAME TO THIS INSTEAD OF GOING WITH MY WIFE, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE THE 31ST.

SO IF, YOU KNOW, SO THE, UH, SO ANYWAY, JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL A HEADS UP ON THAT.

UM, MR. UH, SHAW?

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UH, LAST WEEK I WAS OUT PRETTY MUCH ALL WEEK, UH, AT, UH, THE, THE ANNUAL ICMA CONFERENCE.

UH, THAT OF COURSE IS A GATHERING OF, UH, UH, INTERNATIONAL CITY AND COUNTY MANAGER, UH, CITY AND COUNTY MANAGERS FROM ACROSS THE, UH, INTERNATIONALLY ACROSS THE GLOBE.

UH, AND SO, UH, MOST OF MY WEEK WAS SPENT DOING THAT.

BUT, UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO ANOTHER WEEK HERE OF BUSINESS AND, UH, AS I CONTINUE TO KIND OF DIG INTO THINGS AND, UM, AND WORK, UH, OF COURSE WITH THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS, CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN AS, AS ALREADY ECHOED.

UM, IF YOU, IF YOU NEED ANYTHING, UH, NOW OR AS WE HEAD TO THE, UH, COMING, UH, MEETINGS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

COUNSELOR, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, CONGRATULATIONS TO, UH, MR. HENRY AND TO MR. CARTER ON THEIR ELECTION VICTORIES.

LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH BOTH OF THEM.

I ACTUALLY HEARD HIM SAY SOMETHING BESIDES, I HAVE NO REPORT.

.

OKAY.

NEXT ON THE AGENDA

[F. Approval of Minutes: October 14th Special Meeting & Work Session and October 21st Regular Meeting]

SO I, SO CAN WE, DO WE DO BOTH OF THESE AT ONCE OR DO I DO THEM SEPARATELY? YOU CAN DO THEM BOTH AT ONCE, UNLESS SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANNA DO IT THAT WAY.

IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU ALL? ALRIGHT.

DO I HAVE ANY, UH, UH, ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, OR CORRECTIONS ON THE, UH, ON EITHER OF THESE TWO MEETINGS, MEETING MINUTES? NO.

OKAY.

SO DO I HAVE A MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR OCTOBER 14TH, SPECIAL MEETING AND WORK SESSION ON OCTOBER 21ST, REGULAR SESSION MEETING AS PRESENTED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND ROLL CALL MRS. COLORS? AYE.

MR. STANIER? AYE.

MR. BUTLER? AYE.

DR.

JAMESON? AYE.

MR. HENRY A OKAY.

SO THE NEXT IS THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS AND THE APPROVAL FOR FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO PROCEED WITH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS TO SOLICIT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONSULTING SERVICES.

I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE TABLE THIS AGAIN, UM, BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THERE SHOULD SOME INFORMATION FROM A PREVIOUS CITIZENS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO REVIEW, UM, THAT, TO GET A BETTER FOUNDATION OF WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST BEFORE SPENDING THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY ON A CONSULTANT.

ANY DISCUSSION? I THINK BEFORE WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO TABLE, WE'LL NEED A SECOND BEFORE YOU CAN CONSIDER THAT.

SO DO I HAVE A, DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.

OH, OKAY.

COULD I MAKE A COMMENT? YEAH.

OH, I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED, BUT I, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO, UH, HAVE A MINUTE TO SIT DOWN WITH MR. MCDOUGALL, UH, TO KIND OF GET, UH, SOME MORE BACKGROUND EDUCATION.

UH, I'VE TRIED TO DO SOME RESEARCH AND I'VE KIND OF FOUND OUT THAT, UH, HE MAY BE, HAVE THE BEST KNOWLEDGE FROM START TO FINISH OF, UH, HOW THIS WORKS IN, UH, IN HINDSIGHT, I SHOULD HAVE CALLED HIM A MONTH AGO.

UH, SO, UH, MAYBE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, UH, I CAN, UH, I CAN MEET WITH HIM AND, UH, GET A BETTER BACKGROUND AND A BETTER FEEL.

AND THEN, UH, AND I'D ALSO JUST RECEIVED THIS FROM, UH, DR.

JAMESON.

I'D, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO READ IT AND, UH, MAYBE GO OVER IT, UH, WITH THE A DA, UH, BOARD AS WELL AND, UH, UH, HAVE A BETTER FEELING ABOUT IT.

IT, IT DOESN'T, UH, DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A BAD IDEA, BUT, UH, I, I'D FEEL BETTER IF I HAD A LITTLE MORE TIME TO WORK ON IT.

BUT I MEAN, IF YOU'RE ALL COMFORTABLE, I UNDERSTAND DR.

JAMESON, I JUST WONDER KNOW IF, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YOU, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UM, I'M, I'M AWARE OF SOME PREVIOUS STUDIES.

I, I THINK THE, UH, THE ONE THAT, UH, SUPERVISOR KOHLER HAS MENTIONED MAY HAVE BEEN SOME NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, LIKE AFTER THE APTEX PLANT CLOSED, I BELIEVE IN, UH, NOT, NOT IMMEDIATELY AFTER, BUT I THINK THAT THAT GROUP, UH, DID ITS WORK MAYBE IN THE NINETIES.

UM, I THINK THERE MAY HAVE EVEN BEEN SOME OTHER STUDIES SINCE THEN, THOUGH.

MM-HMM .

UM, I DO THINK A LOT HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN.

UH, AND WE HAD THE INTERNET, UH, WE HAD COVID, WE HAD ALL KINDS OF THINGS, UH, UH, THE, A LOT OF MIGRATION OUT THIS

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I THINK THE LANDSCAPE IS DIFFERENT.

UH, THAT SAID, UM, IT WOULDN'T HURT TO REVIEW THOSE STUDIES.

UH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DEVIL'S ALWAYS IN THE DETAILS OF IMPLEMENTING RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE SAW THAT WITH THE FIRE, THE PREVIOUS FIRE AND RESCUE STUDY.

AND, UM, UH, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE DECIDED, BUT AFTER CAREFUL CONSIDERATION, WE DID NEED TO UPDATE THAT, UM, UH, THE, UH, THE OLDER RECOMMENDATIONS WERE NO LONGER VALID.

SO I THINK THE SAME THING COULD HAPPEN.

BUT, UM, UH, I RESPECT, UH, SUPERVISOR HENRY'S DESIRE TO GET, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND TO SPEAK TO EDA CHAIRMAN MCDOUGALL, UM, AND, AND TO DIGEST THE, UH, RECENT UPDATES FROM, UH, SUPERVISOR JAMESON AS WELL.

UM, SO I'M WILLING TO TABLE IT FOR, FOR A WHILE, BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO GET TABLED, UH, INTO, UH, DYING ON THE VINE.

UM, SO I THINK IF WE TABLE IT, WE SHOULD, UH, UH, DIRECT ADMINISTRATION TO, TO GO INTO ARCHIVES WHEREVER AND, AND FIND THESE OLD STUDIES, UH, AND THEN WE CAN ALL HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION TOGETHER AND, AND, AND GO FROM THERE, BECAUSE I DO THINK THE CLOCK IS TICKING ON THIS.

AND, UH, ONE OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONSULTANTS, UH, THAT EDA HAD PROPOSED, I, WE FIRST MET, SOME OF US MET HIM BACK IN, IN JUNE.

SO IT'S, IT'S ALREADY BEEN SEVERAL MONTHS OF, OF DELAY.

AND, UH, UH, WE HAVE SOME GOOD INITIATIVES UNDERWAY WITH TOURISM AND, AND OTHERWISE, BUT I, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE PROBABLY LEAVING ON THE TABLE AND I, I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO GET KILLED BY STUDYING.

IT MIGHT BE A BOTH AND WHERE WE START SOMETHING ON A SMALL SCALE WHILE WE CONTINUE TO, TO, TO DIGEST OLD, OLD STUDIES AND, AND SEE IF WE CAN HAVE THE BEST OF BOTH.

UH, BUT THAT'S WHERE MY THINKING IS AT THIS POINT.

YEAH.

THINK MS. SCOTT.

OH, WAIT, CALL.

OKAY.

CALL.

YEAH.

GO, GO AHEAD HERE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, I HEAR, I HEAR YOU.

I HEAR YOU.

I HEAR YOU, JOHN.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, IF, IF WE'VE READ WHAT THE STATEMENT OF NEED IS, UM, IT'S NOT A STUDY.

UH, WHAT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON AND WHAT I, WHAT I'M INTENDING TO HAVE THIS PROJECT FOCUSED ON IS A VERY SPECIAL NEED.

UM, WE HAVE A UNIQUE, WE DON'T NEED TO REVIEW THE WHOLE THING, BUT WE HAVE A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION OVER THE LAST 6, 7, 8 YEARS.

UM, SO THERE WERE, THERE ARE, AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA REHASH AT ALL, BUT WE HAVE A TOWN COUNTY RELATIONSHIP FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT NEEDS TO, UH, BE RELOOKED AT FOR COOPERATION THAT ELIMINATES DUPLICATION.

UH, WE HAVE AN EDA, WHICH WE DON'T FULLY KNOW WHAT ITS FUTURE ROLE IS GONNA BE.

UH, IT'S, IT'S STILL HAS A, PROBABLY A PLACE OF VALUE, BUT IT CERTAINLY WON'T, IT'S NOT REALLY ON CONTEMPLATED THAT IT WILL BE BACK IN THE ROLE THAT IT WAS, UH, BEFORE THE, THE UNFORTUNATE SCANDAL.

UM, SO THERE, AND, AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF ROLLS INTO THE IDEA THAT, THAT THERE'S SOME TROUBLED HISTORY IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ARENA, AND WE NEED A CHART OF PATH THAT BUILDS PUBLIC CONFIDENCE.

I MEAN, THERE ARE, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH A PROJECT WHERE WE HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS, PUBLIC DELIVERABLES, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIODS, AND RESIDENTS CAN SEE HOW WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR THE EDA SITUATION, HOW THE TOWN RELATIONSHIP AND STRATEGIC PRIORITIES DEVELOP.

AND THAT THE IDEA IS THAT WE SHOULD BE BASICALLY IN A, IN A, IN A GLASS BOX WHILE DEVELOPING THE PATH FORWARD FOR, FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE'S THIS, THIS TRUST DEFICIT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

IT, AND THERE SHOULD BE, BECAUSE THERE WAS $20 MILLION MISSING.

SO I, AND I THINK WE DID, WE, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T JUST RESUME THE IDEA THAT WE WILL, UH, JUST HIRE SOMEBODY AND KIND OF WORK IT OUT UP HERE, AND THEN SOME MEETINGS AND THEN, AND THEN KIND OF DRIFT ALONG.

UH, I THINK IT'S CRUCIAL, UH, TO NOT, AND AGAIN, PART OF THIS IS, PART OF ONE OF THE OUTCOMES OF THIS, UH, OF THIS STATEMENT OF NEED IS MATCHING, IDENTIFYING WHAT THAT FORWARD PATH LOOKS LIKE, AND THEN MATCHING, UH, PROFILE OF A, OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TO, TO FIT THAT LIKE A GLOVE, UH, RATHER THAN JUST A GENERIC APPROACH TO HIRING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND THEN KIND OF LEAVING IT TO HIM WITH A LITTLE BIT OF GUIDANCE TO DO IT.

SO THAT'S THE INTENT.

UM, I THINK WITH, UH, MR. HENRY JUST, JUST NOW LITERALLY RECEIVING , UH, THE STATEMENT OF NEED, UH, I, IT'S, IT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE HOW BUREAUCRACY GRINDS THINGS DOWN, YOU KNOW, TO BE SO SLOW.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S,

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SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO, TO MS. SCOTT, WHAT'S OUR LEFT AND RIGHT BOUNDARIES ON THIS, IF, IF WE APPROPRIATE, LET ME SEE.

WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS, UH, ASK TO PROCEED WITH PROCUREMENT.

YEAH.

TO PROCEED WITH PROCURE PROCUREMENT.

SO IF WE PROCEED WITH THE PROCUREMENT ON THIS, WHAT ARE THE STEPS AND WHAT IS THE POINT OF NO RETURN? IT REALLY IS BEST TO FIGURE IT OUT BEFORE YOU ISSUE A FORMAL REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.

BECAUSE IN ORDER TO CANCEL A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS OR AN INVITATION FOR BIDS, IT, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE BUDGET AND IT'S NOT ABOUT THE CONSENSUS OF IT.

UM, THERE'S A LOT MORE DETAILS IN THIS.

SO I WOULD DEFINITELY SUGGEST THAT EVERYONE GETS ON THE SAME PAGE BEFORE.

SO THEN, SO THEN IT WOULD NOT BE A GOOD IDEA FOR US JUST GOING AHEAD AND, AND PUT THAT OUT THERE AND THEN, AND THEN STEP BACK AND GO, WELL, LET ME THINK WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DO WE REALLY WANT TO DO? DO WE WANT TO DO THIS? DO WE, RIGHT.

THAT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA.

THE LESS ADDENDUMS OR CHANGES THAT YOU HAVE TO THE ORIGINAL SOLICITATION, UM, MAKES IT MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD.

OKAY.

UH, SO THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ALRIGHT.

IN CONSIDERATION OF THIS, DO I HAVE, IS THERE A MOTION TO OPEN? I, I THOUGHT, DID SHE MAKE A MOTION AND I SECOND I MADE A MOTION TO TABLE IT.

YEAH.

SO DO I HAVE A SECOND TO THAT? I, MR. HENRY ALREADY SECONDED THAT.

OH, YOU SECONDED.

SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT, WHICH IS, SO WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

IS IT AS A MATTER OF COURT OF LIKE ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDERS? ARE WE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AFTER A MOTION AND A SECOND? YEAH.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU DID? UH, OKAY.

I MEAN, ARE WE SUPPOSED TO HAVE DISCUSSION BEFORE WE MOTION IN A SECOND? OR IS IT NO, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE DISCUSSION.

UH, YOU HAVE A MOTION AND WELL, IT DEPENDS.

IT IS THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION IS, IS, YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON KIND OF WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? SO SOMETIMES YOU'LL HAVE LIKE A, A STAFF SUMMARY, ET CETERA REGARDING COMP, SOME COMPLICATED ZONING THING, ET CETERA.

BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR Y'ALL, YOU SHOULD HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, AND THEN YOU, YOU DEBATE WHATEVER THAT IS.

AND THEN THAT, AND THAT'S EXACTLY THE PROCESS YOU'VE JUST FOLLOWED.

AND YEAH, THAT, AND IF THAT MOTION FAILS, THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER ELSE, YOU KNOW, ITEM.

YEAH.

THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE BECAUSE NOW WE KNOW WHAT DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO IN OR SOMEBODY PROPOSED, AND THEN WE ALL TALK ABOUT DO WE REALLY WANT TO GO THAT WAY? SO, OKAY.

SO, BUT BEFORE WE VOTE, I JUST HAVE A, A QUICK, QUICK QUESTION.

DID, DID Y'ALL DISCUSS THIS WITH THE TOWN AT ALL AT THE PREVIOUS TOWN COUNTY LIAISON, MEANING? YEAH, WE BROUGHT IT UP, YEAH.

AND WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME? THE, THE OUTCOME WAS, WAS THAT, UH, THEIR, THEIR RESPONSE, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS, THEIR RESPONSE WAS, OKAY, WE'VE RECEIVED THE MESSAGE.

WELL, THEY, THEY WERE GONNA TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION AND TRY TO SCHEDULE A WORK SESSION OVER IT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND, AND INTERNAL WORK SESSION.

I SEE.

AND, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME FUTURE TIME OF COLLABORATION AND, AND COORDINATION, UM, I, I WOULDN'T THINK, I DON'T THINK A REASON FOR DELAYING TODAY IS WAITING FOR THEM TO GIVE US ANSWERS.

WHETHER THEY WANT TO COST SHARE IT.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO CHART OUR COURSE AND THEN INVITE THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN, IN ANY WAY THAT IS BENEFICIAL TO BOTH OF US.

BUT THAT'S NOT THE REASON THAT I'M, I'M BASICALLY GONNA GO ALONG WITH THIS TABLE.

UNDERSTOOD.

ALRIGHT.

THAT'S FAIR.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE THIS.

THE, THE ONLY OTHER THING IS WE DIDN'T SAY HOW LONG WE WERE TABLED IT.

UH, GOOD POINT.

HOW LONG? I, I, I WOULD NEED TO, I'D PROBABLY LEAVE IT, I HATE TO PUT IT OFF ANY LONGER, BUT WITH, UH, MR. MCDOUGALL'S SCHEDULE IN MY SCHEDULE, SOMETIMES IT'S, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN GET IT DONE IN A WEEK OR TWO, BUT IF I CAN, YOU KNOW, I COULD MENTION IT AT THE, WELL, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, IT'S, UH, THE WORK SESSION'S NOT A, A VOTING MEETING.

IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE THE NEXT BOARD CHAIRMAN.

IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE THE MEETING.

CORRECT.

MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I ADDRESS THE BOARD ON THIS? YES, PLEASE.

SO, UH, MRS. COLORS HAS, HAS MADE UP JUST A MOTION TO TABLE, WHICH IS TO TABLE

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SO THAT MEANS IT'S TABLED UNTIL IT, IT COMES BACK.

AND SO YOUR PROCEDURAL RULES ARE THAT ANY TWO BOARD MEMBERS CAN ASK FOR SOMETHING TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA.

SO THAT'S THE WAY THE MOTION AND THE SECOND IS DONE.

NOW, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE TO A SPECIFIC DATE, UM, OR YOU KNOW, THE NEXT MEETING TYPE OF THING.

SO WE CAN JUST LEAVE IT.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BEEN DONE HERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF MRS. CALLERS WANTS TO WITHDRAW THAT MOTION AND MODIFY IT, SHE CAN, BUT, BUT SHE DOESN'T NEED TO.

OKAY.

SO WE CAN JUST LEAVE IT OPEN THEN IT'S GONNA BE UP TO THE COURT TO BACKGROUND.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT'S GOING DOWN.

NOT I WANTED, WELL, SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN IT THAT WAY.

ROLL CALL.

UH, MR. HENRY.

AYE.

DR.

JAMISON? AYE.

MR. CHAIRMAN? AYE.

MR. STAN MEYER? AYE MRS. SCHOLARS? AYE.

OKAY.

MOTION PASSES TO TABLE THIS UNTIL, UH, UNTIL IT GETS BACK ON THE AGENDA.

ALRIGHT, NEXT IS THE

[H. Consent Agenda ]

DO I HAVE, UH, ANY ITEMS THAT, UH, ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO PULL FOR DISCUSSION? UH, YES SIR.

I'D LIKE TO PULL FIVE AND EIGHT.

UH, FIVE AND EIGHT OR FIVE THROUGH EIGHT.

JUST FIVE AND THEN EIGHT.

FIVE.

FIVE AND EIGHT.

OKAY.

THAT'S FIVE IS THE ADOPTION OF, UH, 2026 BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING SCHEDULE AND EIGHT IS THE MODIFICATION OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RESOLUTION AMENDING THE, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR, UH, 20 25, 20 26 BUDGET AND APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR WARREN COUNTY, VIRGINIA.

ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE? SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, UH, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA EXCEPT FOR ITEMS FIVE AND EIGHT.

SO MOVED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ROLL CALL MRS. CALLERS? AYE.

MR. STANIER? AYE.

MR. CHAIRMAN? AYE.

DR.

JAMESON? AYE.

MR. HENRY? AYE.

ALRIGHT.

THE REASON

[H.5. Adoption of 2026 Board of Supervisors Meeting Schedule ]

SO I JUST THOUGHT THIS WAS ODD.

WE WERE ADOPTING IT NOW.

SO, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU, YOU CAN DO THIS IF YOU WANT TO.

IT, IT LE YOU KNOW, IT BECOMES BASICALLY THE GUIDEBOOK THAT I USE FOR DRAFTING YOUR MEETING POLICY AND PROCEDURE SO MS. COLORS IS CORRECT.

SO THE STATE CODE REQUIRES AT YOUR FIRST ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING IN JANUARY THAT YOU ADOPT YOUR REGULAR MEETING SCHEDULE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS DOESN'T DO THAT.

REALLY, IT, YOU CAN DO THIS TONIGHT IF, IF YOU WANT TO.

IT, IT BECOMES A GUIDE FOR ME WHEN I'M DRAFTING THOSE, UM, RULES AND REGULATIONS BECAUSE IN THOSE RULES AND REGULATIONS I PUT IN THERE YOUR MEETING SCHEDULE AND THEN Y'ALL ADOPT THAT IN JANUARY ALONG WITH THAT, WHICH IS THE WAY TO COMPLY WITH THE STATE CODE.

SO THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH DOING IT THIS WAY, BUT YOU, IT, IT'S LEGALLY INEFFECTIVE.

YOU'VE GOTTA DO THE OTHER ONE IN JANUARY, WHICH YOU ALWAYS DO.

SO THEN COULD WE JUST TABLE THIS UNTIL JANUARY? I WOULD QUITE LIKE THIS, THE FEEDBACK OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT DATES YOU WANT.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I QUITE LIKE YOU ALL DOING IT THIS WAY SO THEN I CAN KNOW WHAT TO DRAFT IN THE RULES AND AND PROCEDURES.

AND THEN IF WE DIDN'T LIKE IT, WE COULD ALWAYS VOTE IT AGAINST IT IN JANUARY.

YEAH, I MEAN YOU CAN VOTE FOR THIS NOW AND THEN CHANGE YOUR MIND IF YOU WANT TO, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES THINGS A LITTLE BIT LESS SMOOTH THE FIRST JANUARY MEETING.

OKAY, WELL THEN I'LL MOVE TO ADOPT THE 2026 BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING SCHEDULE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND ROLL CALL MR. HENRY? AYE.

DR.

JAMISON? AYE.

MR. CHAIRMAN? AYE.

MR. STAN MEYER.

AYE.

MRS. CUTS.

AYE.

OKAY, NEXT ITEM IS

[H.8. Modification to Economic Development Resolution - Amending Fiscal Year 2025-2026 Budget and Appropriating funds for Warren County, Virginia - ]

AND MY QUESTION HERE IS, YOU KNOW, WELL WE, WE TABLED, UM, HIRING THE CONSULTING, BUT IN THIS MODIFICATION IT SAYS THAT, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN FUNDS TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT ARE APPROPRIATED 50,000 OF WHICH SHALL BE USED FOR STAFF AND 50 OF WHICH SHALL BE USED FOR CONSULTING SERVICES.

WE'VE, WE'VE NEVER HAD A DISCUSSION AMONGST US ABOUT HIRING STAFF.

SO I, I JUST THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE AS A GROUP SHOULD BE DISCUSSING INSTEAD OF IT BEING PUT IN A RESOLUTION AND ON A CONSENT AGENDA.

AND I NEVER KNEW ABOUT IT UNTIL THAT WE WERE CONSIDERING HIRING STAFF WITH THAT

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BUT IT WAS NEVER DISCUSSED AS THIS TO BEGIN WITH.

WELL ACTUALLY IT WAS, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS, BUT, UH, IT WAS ACTUALLY THIS, THIS, THIS IS A, UH, UH, THIS IS A, A CORRECTION TO, UH, UH, THE, UH, ON THE, WHAT WAS IT, THE 16TH OF SEPTEMBER BECAUSE THE, UH, THIS CAME UP.

BUT IF YOU RECALL SOME OF THE, THE HARD COPY AGENDAS THAT WERE, WERE AVAILABLE TO THE, UH, UH, TO, TO THE, UH, AUDIENCE, UH, DID NOT INCLUDE THIS ON THERE.

AND SO THE, UH, SO WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND WE PASSED IT.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WAS, WAS THAT THE, THERE WAS A, A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF WAS I THINK, WHAT WAS IT? UH, 65, 60 5,000 AND THE CHANGE IN THE RATIO.

AND WE JUST CHANGED THE RATIO JUST A LITTLE BIT.

BUT IT WAS ON THERE AND IT WAS DISCUSS, WELL IT WAS ON THERE, BUT WE'VE NEVER DISCUSSED, THE ONLY DISCUSSION WE HAVE HAS BEEN MR. JAMESON'S WANTING TO HIRE CONSULTING AND TO ME, HIRING STAFF AND A CONSULTANT AT THE SAME TIME, WHY ARE WE HIRING? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CONSULTANT'S GONNA TELL US UNTIL AFTER WE GET THE REPORT.