Nov 18, 2025 Board of Supervisors Meeting

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OKAY.

7:00 PM

[A. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America]

UH, CHAIRMAN BUTLER IS OUT OF TOWN TODAY, SO AS VICE CHAIR, I'LL BE CHAIRING THE MEETING TONIGHT.

UH, THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS, UH, I BELIEVE WE HAVE, UM, A SCHEDULED, UH, PRAYER FROM PASTOR MARK ROBERSON.

ARE YOU HERE? OKAY.

IN THAT CASE, LET'S JUST TAKE A QUICK MOMENT OF SILENCE.

PLEASE, PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FROM THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION ON LIBERTY JUSTICE FOR ALL.

AND OUR FIRST ORDER OF

[B. Adoption of Agenda – Additions or Deletions]

DO ANY SUPERVISORS HAVE ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS FROM THE AGENDA? OH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA? MR. CHAIRMAN, MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

SECOND.

SECOND, TO ADOPT THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED AS PRESENTED.

UH, NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS, OH, YES.

UH, MR. HENRY AYE.

DR.

JAMISON AYE.

MR. STAN MEYER.

AYE.

MRS. SCHOLARS, AYE.

FIRST TIME DOING THIS, .

THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS

[C. Shenandoah Farms Sanitary District Advisory Committee year-end (CY 2025) report]

UH, GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

UH, MY NAME'S REX CHRISTENSEN.

I'M THE CHAIR OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

UH, WE PRESENT A REPORT, I THINK DO THINK EVERYBODY HAS THAT? YES, WE ALL HAVE COPIES.

OKAY.

I WILL NOT READ THAT THROUGH THIS EVENING.

UH, WHICH WILL SAVE US CERTAINLY SOME TIME.

I WANNA GIVE IT A LITTLE CONTEXT OF, UH, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

UM, HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE THINGS, WHICH I THINK ARE VERY POSITIVE, UH, THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST YEAR.

UH, HIGHLIGHT, ADDRESS A FEW OF OUR CONCERNS, AND THEN TAKE A MOMENT FOR QUESTIONS, UH, THAT YOU MAY HAVE AS WE GO FORWARD FROM THERE.

REX, CAN YOU MOVE YOUR MICROPHONE UP? THANKS.

AND IF IT'S NOT ON, THERE'S A BUTTON TO PUSH IF THERE'S NO GREEN LIGHT.

HOW'S THAT? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S BETTER.

THERE'S A GREEN LIGHT.

OKAY.

WE'LL ASSUME THAT THAT'S GOOD.

UM, ABOUT A YEAR AGO, WE HAD BEEN WITHOUT AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR MAYBE TWO YEARS.

UM, AND THE, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS RE-INSTITUTED THAT BOARD.

AND, UH, I THINK WE CAME IN WITH, UH, A LOT TO DO.

UM, THE INITIAL CONCERNS, I THINK THAT THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA HAD WAS WHAT THOUGHT A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY AND, UH, FINANCIALS, ALL OF THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WENT ON THERE.

WHAT WE VERY QUICKLY LEARNED, UM, WITH REALLY SOME CLOSE COOPERATION, YOU KNOW, WITH MIKE AND WITH JOHN BOTH, IS THAT THERE WAS REALLY GOOD THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING.

UH, THEY JUST WEREN'T REALLY PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE.

AND, UH, THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TRIED TO MAKE A, A PRIORITY OF, IS LETTING PEOPLE KNOW SOME OF THE GOOD THINGS, UH, THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE FARMS, BOTH BY THE CREWS THAT ARE GOING ON THERE, UM, BY PUBLIC WORKS, UH, AND, AND BY THE COUNTY.

UH, BECAUSE THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANT.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT INSIGNIFICANT ITEMS. A FEW THINGS I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT.

UM, THERE'S A MISSION STATEMENT THAT WE JUST, WE REALLY FELT STRONGLY THAT WE WANTED TO CODIFY OUR EFFORTS AND SCOPE THEM A WAY THAT MADE THEM DISTINCT, UH, FROM THE ORGANIZATION THAT'S POSF, AND, AND CLEARLY DELINEATED, UH, AND, AND FOCUS OUR EFFORTS FOR THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

AND SO WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THAT, AND THAT'S PART I THINK OF, OF YOUR CONSENT, JENNIFER, TONIGHT.

AND, AND WE, UH, WE, WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING A LOOK AT THAT.

UM, WE ALSO WANTED TO LOOK AT THE FINANCES AND, AND FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE FINANCES.

AND, UH, WE'RE NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT THERE, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY 80% OF WHERE WE, WE, WE WILL FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT.

AND SOME OF THAT, UH, HAS TO DO WITH, UH, TURNOVER IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND PREPARING A REPORT.

UM, OUR END GOAL IS TO HAVE A, A FINANCIAL REPORT THAT WILL ACCOMPANY OUR, UM, BIMONTHLY MINUTES.

THAT THE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE A SUMMARY OF, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT ON OUR BUDGET SPENDING AND, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

AND I THINK THAT WILL ALLEVIATE, UM, A LOT OF CONCERN, UH, ALLEVIATED CONCERN THAT I HAD AS WE DO DOVE INTO THAT.

AND I THINK THAT WILL ALSO ALLEVIATE CONCERN WITH OUR RESIDENTS AS THEY'RE ABLE TO SEE THAT, AS WELL AS WE CAN PUSH OUT, UH, SOME TRANSPARENCY OF WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.

UH, A COUPLE POSITIVE THINGS I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IS SOME OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE FARMS, UH, THIS YEAR.

UM, YOU HAVE AUTHORIZED THE MONEY THAT TO, TO BE SPENT, AND IT'S BEEN DONE, I THINK, REALLY WELL.

UH, A LOT OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE COMPLETED THIS YEAR HAVE BEEN ON

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A LONG TIME.

AND, AND WE'RE CHECKING BOXES THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE, ON THE, ON THE BOOKS FOR A LONG TIME.

AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT YOUNG'S DRIVE, WHEN WE LOOK AT LAKE DRIVE, UM, FINISHING THE OLD OAK PROJECTS, THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR SOME TIME, AND THEY'VE BEEN STARTED AND FINISHED, UH, THIS YEAR.

AND SO IT'S BEEN, IT'S SIGNIFICANT TO, AND, UH, A COUPLE OF THE SAVINGS I WANT TO, UH, HIGHLIGHT FOR THOSE, UM, OLD OAK HAS BEEN A SEGMENTED PROJECT.

AND, AND YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD OF THAT OVER THE YEARS COMING UP.

IT WAS A FAIRLY MAJOR PROJECT FOR US.

THAT WAS WHEN IT DONE IN PARTICIPATION WITH VDOT.

UM, A GOOD PORTION OF THAT WAS DONE, UH, IN THE VDOT RURAL ROADS PROGRAM.

AND SO WE SPLIT THAT COST WITH THEM, AND THEN THE SANITARY DISTRICT SPLIT THAT COST WITH THE COUNTY.

THE LAST PORTION OF THAT, WE PULLED OUT OF THAT PROGRAM AND COMPLETED INTERNALLY.

WHAT THAT ALLOWED US TO DO IS THAT OVERALL PROJECT, UH, WHICH THE INITIAL BUDGET WAS PROBABLY ABOUT SE AGAIN, ABOUT SEVEN YEARS OLD.

UM, WE ALMOST FINISHED THAT IN BUDGET, SO WE WERE ABOUT 1.7 MILLION.

WE, OR ABOUT 1.5.

I THINK WE FINISHED AT 1.7 WITH THE ADDITIONAL COST ON THERE, UM, ON VERY OLD MONEY.

AND AS WE ALL KNOW, CONSTRUCTION PRICES HAVE ONLY GONE UP.

UH, WE TOOK THAT AS A BIG WIN.

AND REALLY THAT WAS JUST THE BEGINNING FOR US.

WE HAD A COUPLE, UH, ITEMS THAT CAME UP.

UM, THOMPSON'S MILL IS A BRIDGE, UH, AS YOU COME INTO ONE ENTRANCE OF THE FARMS. UM, IT WAS, IT HAD BEEN WASHING OUT, IT WAS HAVING TROUBLES, FOUR BIG CULVERTS IN THERE.

AND, UH, WE NEEDED TO GET THAT REPLACED.

ENGINEERING ESTIMATE WAS JUST FOR THE STRUCTURES WAS ABOUT 850,000 PLUS THE ROAD AND, AND STUFF ON TOP OF IT.

UM, THAT ROAD SERVES 11 RESIDENTS.

AND SO AS A BOARD, WE DISCUSSED, GOSH, HOW DO WE JUSTIFY SPENDING THAT KIND OF MONEY, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, NOT GIVE SOMEBODY ACCESS TO THEIR HOME.

UM, THE SANITARY DISTRICT CREW SAID, HEY, WE THINK WE CAN DO THIS.

AND THEY DID SOME ESTIMATES AND, UH, WE COMPLETED THAT PROJECT FOR, UH, I THINK $56,000, $56,000, UM, FOR WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN 850,000 PLUS ON THERE.

SO IT'S SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS.

UM, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT THEORETICAL SAVINGS 'CAUSE THAT WASN'T COMMITTED MONEY, BUT THAT, THAT'S ONE THING I WANNA START WITH.

UM, THE CREW DID THAT INTERNALLY.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND IT LOOKS GREAT, GREAT PROJECT FOR US.

UM, YOUNG'S DRIVE IS A PROJECT, WHICH IS A LITTLE MORE REAL ON THAT SETUP.

UH, WE WERE GONNA SPEND, I THINK THE TOTAL BUDGET FOR THAT WAS ABOUT $500,000.

UH, IT WAS PART OF THE VDOT PROGRAM, SO WE WOULD'VE SPENT, UH, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 275 ON OUR, AND THEN WE WERE SPLITTING THAT WITH THE COUNTY.

UM, AS WE LOOKED AT THAT AND, UH, AND DID SOME ESTIMATES TALK WITH, WITH MIKE AND HIS CREW.

THEY'RE LIKE, WE CAN DO THIS INTERNALLY.

THAT WAS PART OF IT.

THE OTHER ISSUE IS WHEN VDOT WENT IN AND STAKED EVERYTHING, AND EVERYBODY SAW THE STAKES IN THEIR FRONT LAWN, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, WE'RE GONNA LOSE OUR TREES AND OUR FLOWERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND, UH, AND, AND SO AS WE LISTENED TO RESIDENTS AND WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO AND, AND TALKED WITH THE CREWS ABOUT WHAT THEY THOUGHT WE COULD DO, WE DECIDED, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT NEEDED TO BE PULLED BACK FROM VDOT AND THEN DONE INTERNALLY.

AND SO IT WAS, AND, UH, YOUR NUMBERS ARE ON THE REPORT THERE.

UH, HUNDRED 63 9.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, A HUNDRED SIXTY THREE NINE IS WHAT THAT PROJECT WAS COMPLETED FOR OF SANITARY DISTRICT FUNDS.

ORIGINAL CAUSE.

THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE SAVINGS.

THE SAVINGS, EXCUSE ME, SAVED THE SANITARY DISTRICT SAVED $163,000.

UM, THE COUNTY HAD COMMITTED FUNDS ON THAT, WHICH I THINK WERE 125,000, $125,000 COMMITTED FROM THE COUNTY RELEASED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO THAT RAILROADS PROGRAM.

SO A SAVINGS TO THE COUNTY AGAIN.

AND IT'S A FANTASTIC PROJECT.

UM, CREW DID IT, UH, TAR HAD SHIPPED IT.

THAT'LL WORK GREAT FOR RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR YEARS TO COME.

UM, LAKE DRIVE IS ONE LAST PROJECT.

UH, IT HAD, IT WAS ONE, AGAIN, THAT WAS PART, UH, IT WAS APPROVED BY THE VDOT.

IT HAD BEEN THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, A GOOD PORTION OF TIME BE BEGIN.

THE BEGINNING AND END OF THAT ROAD HAD BEEN PAVED.

THERE WAS A MIDDLE SECTION THAT HADN'T BEEN DONE.

UM, BUT AS VO GOT IN THERE, DID THE ENGINEERING, THE COST JUST BEGAN TO GO UP AND UP AND UP AND IT, IT BECAME VERY QUICKLY, UH, NOT ECONOMICAL, UH, FOR US TO DO.

THAT PROJECT WAS DONE INTERNALLY.

IT WAS DONE BY THE CREW, AGAIN, AT A SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS, UM, FOR WHAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN OTHERWISE.

AGAIN, THAT'S MONEY BACK TO THE COUNTY.

UM, THOSE ARE TWO PROJECTS.

LAKE AND YOUNG'S WERE THE LAST PROJECTS THAT HAD COUNTY COMMITTED FUNDS.

AS FAR AS THAT RAILROAD PROJECTS.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE GOING FORWARD.

UM, AND AS WE LOOK, WE WOULD PROBABLY BE HARD PRESSED TO PUSH A PROJECT INTO RAILROADS.

UM, THAT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE, UH, MONEY WISE FOR US.

WE, THE CREW HAS, THEIR PROFICIENCY HAS INCREASED TO SUCH A, A WAY THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST TAKING GREAT CARE OF OUR ROADS.

THEY'RE BETTER THAN THEY'VE EVER BEEN BEFORE.

UM, AND COMPLAINTS, HOW MANY COMPLAINTS IS YOUR OFFICE GETTING THESE DAYS ON ROADS? FEW, AND I THINK WE WE'RE HEARING THE SAME FROM POSF.

UH, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A CHANGE, I THINK IS SOME OF, YOU KNOW, IN YEARS PAST WHERE ROADS HAVE BEEN A NIGHTMARE, WE'RE JUST NOT SEEING THAT NOW.

AND, UH, AND THAT TRANSLATES INTO THINGS LIKE SNOWPLOWING AS WELL.

UH, HAVING THAT CREW RIGHT THERE.

OUR, OUR ROADS ARE VERY

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AND SOMETIMES AS WE, AS WE MONITOR OUR RESIDENTS AND WHAT GOES ON IN SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT WE DISCUSS CERTAINLY, BUT IT'S QUICK TO FORGET THAT WE LIVE IN A MOUNTAIN COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE TYPE OF SERVICE WE ARE GETTING FROM OUR CREW THERE EXCEEDS WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY EXPECT, PROBABLY IN OTHER MOUNTAIN COMMUNITIES AS FAR AS ROADS GETTING TAKEN CARE OF, UH, SNOW GETTING PLOWED, UH, YOU KNOW, EDGES GETTING MOWED.

AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WE'RE, UH, THAT, THAT'S BEING HANDLED VERY WELL.

AND IT IS SAVINGS TO DO BOTH RESIDENTS.

AND, AND I THINK AT THE COUNTY WITH THAT, UH, MR. STAN MEYER HAS OUR FORMAL RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT, UH, OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR, UM, REMAIN THE SAME AS IT HAS FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS OF ABOUT $900,244.

UM, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO STAY INSIDE THAT, AND WE'VE NOT SPENT THAT IN THE LAST THREE YEARS AS WELL.

AND SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'LL HAVE A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION, UH, TO MAINTAIN OUR SANITARY DISTRICT FEE.

WE DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO INCREASE THAT, UH, GOING FORWARD.

UH, AND THEN THIRD, THIS WAS, I THINK THIS WAS BROUGHT TO THE BOARD IN THE LATE SPRING.

UM, AS WE LOOKED AT THE MONEY THAT WE HAD IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND, UM, WE DECIDED THAT IT SEEMED BEST FOR US TO SPEND ABOUT 500,000 A YEAR, UH, ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, THAT FUND THEN WOULD PUT OUT ABOUT FOUR YEARS.

UH, ALTHOUGH WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SPEND THAT, UH, FULL AMOUNT IN OUR, OUR PROJECTS PLANNED SO FAR.

BUT, UH, IF WE SEE A NEED TO CHANGE THAT IN THE COMING YEARS, WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION.

BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO, UH, FINANCIALLY AS WE HANDLE, UH, THE GROWTH AND EXPANSION THAT'S, THAT GOES ON IN THE FARMS AND AS WE PLAN FOR, UH, FOR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE GOING FORWARD.

UM, UH, ONE LAST ITEM.

UM, THE, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THIS HAPPENED.

THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, I GUESS ASSIGNED DEPUTIES TO EACH OF THE SANITARY DISTRICTS, AND, UH, WHAT A GREAT THING.

UH, WE MET OUR DEPUTY HERE LAST WEEK, I THINK, AT ONE OF OUR GENERAL BOARD MEETINGS.

AND, UH, WE, WE JUST SEE NOTHING BUT GOOD COMING FROM THAT.

AND SO, UM, I, I THANK YOU TO OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING THERE, UH, IS THE DEPUTY TO EXPLAINED HOW THAT WORKED INTO, TO THEIR, TO THEIR PAY SCALE AND THEIR PUBLIC SERVICE HOURS AND THESE KINDS OF THINGS.

IT JUST SEEMED LIKE A PERFECT MARRIAGE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND COMMUNITY INTO BUILDING WHAT WE WANT, I THINK, AS NEIGHBORHOODS IN OUR COUNTY.

UM, IN CONCLUSION, JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THE RELATIONSHIP I THINK THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY WITH THE COUNTY HAS BEEN PROBABLY THE BEST IT'S EVER HAD.

UH, WHEN WE CAME IN.

UH, I THINK IT WAS ADVERSARIAL IS PROBABLY A WAY TO DESCRIBE THAT.

AND, UH, THAT, UH, JOHN AND I THINK STARTED TALKING VERY AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS, THAT'S NOT ME.

I'M, I'M NOT AN ACTIVIST.

I, I JUST WANNA GET THINGS DONE.

AND, UH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO.

ALL OF THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HERE TODAY ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT NEITHER MYSELF NOR MY COMMITTEE HAS DONE.

UM, THERE'S BEEN THE WORK OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, WE'RE KIND OF HIGHLIGHTING IT, UH, FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE, BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE SUCH A REALLY GOOD JOB FOR THE RESIDENTS UP THERE.

AND THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS WE WANTED TO SUBMIT TO YOU TONIGHT.

AND WITH THAT, UH, THANK YOU AND I, I TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS, NO QUESTIONS.

JUST GLAD THINGS ARE, ARE GOING SMOOTHLY.

SO IT'S A GOOD THING.

IT'S BEEN DIFFERENT IN THE PAST, RIGHT? AND, UH, I THINK WHAT WE'RE ENJOYING NOW IS JUST GOOD PEOPLE.

UM, GOOD THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I WANT TO THANK YOU, UH, REX FOR COMING OUT AND CRAIG FOR COMING OUT.

UM, AND JUST, UH, ECHO WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

IT'S, IT'S REALLY PUBLIC WORKS.

AND MIKE AND THE, THE TEAM OUT THERE, MIKE, THEY LOVE YOUR TEAM OUT THERE.

UH, THEY'RE SO RESPONSIVE.

UM, AND, UH, WHEN, WHEN I GET A COMPLAINT, I FUNNEL IT THROUGH MIKE TO THE TEAM AND THEY ALWAYS TAKE CARE OF IT, USUALLY SAME DAY.

AND IT'S, IT'S JUST BEEN WONDERFUL.

UM, AND IT'S BEEN GOOD WORKING WITH, UH, THE CURRENT ADVISORY BOARD TOO.

I THINK IT'S BEEN VERY PRODUCTIVE, SO.

OH, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, UM, MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

[D. Public Comment Period for Items on the Agenda (30-Minute Time Limit)]

UM, WE WILL HAVE A PAUSE AT SEVEN 30 IF, UH, IF THERE'S STILL PEOPLE WANTING TO SPEAK, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WILL START AT SEVEN 30 SHARP.

UM, ZACH, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK GUIDELINES QUICKLY? I'LL GO OVER THE GUIDELINES FOR PUBLIC SPEAKING CONDUCT.

ALL COMMENTS WILL BE DIRECTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND NOT TO THE AUDIENCE.

BE CONSIDERATE OF YOUR FELLOW SPEAKERS.

THERE SHOULD BE NO APPLAUSE, BOOING, OR OTHER AUDIBLE DISRUPTION TO THE PROCEEDINGS.

THROUGH A SHOW OF HANDS, THE CHAIRMAN MAY ASK FOR A SHOW OF SUPPORT FOR COMMENTS MADE BY SPEAKERS.

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THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE INFORMATION OR MATERIALS USED AS PART OF A FACTUAL PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD AT THE HEARING.

THE BOARD WILL NOT TOLERATE PERSONAL ATTACKS BY ANYONE ON ANY OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROCEEDINGS.

ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THE GUIDELINES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING MAY BE ASKED TO LEAVE BY THE CHAIRMAN.

FAILURE TO LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING WHEN ASKED TO DO SO IS A VIOLATION OF WARREN COUNTY CODE 56 DASH FOUR AND THE CODE OF VIRGINIA 18.2 DASH FOUR 15.

AND IS SUBJECT TO A FINE OF UP TO $2,500 IN A SENTENCE OF UP TO 12 MONTHS, EITHER OR BOTH.

WITH THAT OUT OF THE WAY, UH, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? UH, YES, SIR.

LEWIS MOTEN.

HELLO, MY NAME'S LOUIS MOTEN FROM NORTH RIVER.

SEE, THE CEILING STILL FALLING APART.

UM, BUT THANK YOU FOR TAKING CARE OF THE SENIOR CENTER, THAT'S REALLY GREAT.

BUT WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS AND SOME OF THE APPROPRIATIONS.

UH, I NOTICED THE TRANSFERS FOR SOME REASON WERE SCANNING MONEY, UH, AND MAKING IT PUBLIC.

SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I WAS TOLD WHEN I WAS A LITTLE KID NOT TO SCAN MONEY .

SO IT SEEMED A LITTLE ODD, UM, TO SEE ALL THE LIKE $25 BILLS AND $10 BILLS.

UM, SO NOBODY WAS ABLE TO APPROVE OR LOOK OVER ANYTHING AT THE FINANCE AUDIT COMMITTEE THIS MONTH BECAUSE OF THE AUDIT.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU GUYS LOOKED OVER IT.

'CAUSE I'M SEEING A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS THAT I'VE BROUGHT UP BEFORE.

UM, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FUEL REPORT.

I SEE ZEROS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

I DIDN'T DIG IN TO SEE ALL THE OTHER ISSUES I'VE I'VE SENT TO YOU BEFORE.

UM, AND THEN THE, UH, GENERAL LEDGER, I'M SEEING LIKE IT'S SPLIT.

SO THE FIRST 22 PAGES IS THE LEFT SIDE.

THE NEXT 22 PAGES OF THIS MIDDLE, NEXT 22 PAGES IS THE, THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING IF YOU'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THIS SERIOUSLY, OR IF YOU'RE JUST RUBBER STAMPING IT AND SAYING, OKAY, LOOKS GOOD TO ME.

THE FINANCE COMMITTEE PRIORITY LOOKED OVER SOMETHING SEEMS ODD IN THE TAX REPORT.

WE JUST HAVE A BALANCE.

THERE'S NO DIVVY UP OF LIKE, WHAT TYPE OF TAXES ARE DUE, HOW MANY ARE 30 DAYS LATE, 60 DAYS LATE.

UH, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY LIENS ISSUED? HOW MANY, HOW MANY MAILINGS ARE GOING OUT? WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THESE REPORTS? WHAT'S THE USEFULNESS OF THEM? YOU JUST WANNA KNOW BALANCE.

SO THAT'S MY CONCERNS AND, UM, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE MORE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR SIGN UP, SIR.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AND DID NOT SIGN UP? OKAY, THAT CLOSES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR THE FIRST HALF.

UH, THERE WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT LATER FOR THINGS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

UM,

[E. Reports – Board Members, County Administrator, County Attorney (Part 1 of 2)]

UH, HUGH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST, MR. SUPERVISOR? HENRY? UH, THANK YOU.

I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT, BUT, UH, WE'LL BE BACK IN DECEMBER, SO I'D LET US LIKE TO WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY THANKSGIVING.

THANK YOU, DR. JEFFERSON.

UH, IT WAS THE, THE TOPIC OF THE WORK SESSION, BUT THE, THE REPORT ON, ON THE, ON THE REASON FOR THE, OR REDONES, UH, AMONG OTHERS FOR THE AUDIT NOT BEING DONE WAS, UH, PRESENTED TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE LAST WEDNESDAY.

UM, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.

THERE WILL BE A SECOND VERSION OF THAT, UH, COMING OUT WITH AN OPPORTUNITY FOR TREASURER'S PERSPECTIVE AND, UH, SOME, SOME OTHER COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED, UH, BY MR. GACHA.

SO I THINK WITHIN ANOTHER WEEK OR SO, UM, THAT SECOND VERSION SHOULD BE AVAILABLE.

UM, AND OTHER THAN THAT, SUPERVISOR COL.

UH, YES, ON NOVEMBER 5TH, I, UH, WAS ASKED TO DO DECA COMPETITION REHEARSAL WHERE, UH, THE KIDS WERE GETTING READY TO GO INTO A COMPETITION AND WERE RUNNING THROUGH THE SCENARIOS THAT THEY WERE GONNA DO FOR THEIR MARKETING.

UM, NOVEMBER 6TH, WE HAD OUR TOURISM COMMITTEE MEETING.

UM, WE HELPED DECORATE TREES FOR THE BLUE RIDGE ARTS COUNCIL THAT ARE GONNA BE SELLING THOSE FOR, UM, FUNDRAISERS.

SO, UM, WORKING IN COOPERATION WITH THEM, THAT WAS A, A FUN EVENT.

UH, NOVEMBER 6TH, I LEFT THAT AND WENT TO AN EARLY ACT MEMORIAL SERVICE THAT, UM, THE KIDS AT E WILSON MORRISON DID FOR THE VETERANS.

AND, UM,

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THE KIDS DO A WONDERFUL JOB.

NOVEMBER 7TH, UM, THE SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL FFA HAD AN EVENT, I HOPE I GET THIS RIGHT.

I THINK IT WAS FOOD FOR AMERICAN, UM, NOT, UH, FEEDING AMERICA, BUT THE, THIS WAS A PROGRAM WHERE THEY BOUGHT ALL THE FOURTH GRADE STUDENTS THAT WILL EVENTUALLY GO TO SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF THE FFA PROGRAM THERE, THE FUTURE FARMERS OF AMERICA.

AND THEY HAD DIFFERENT STATIONS WHERE KIDS, UM, THEY HAD LIVE ANIMALS.

UM, THEY HAD SHEEP, THEY HAD RABBITS AND CHICKENS AND EVEN A HORSE THAT THE KIDS COULD GO AROUND AND GET A LITTLE EDUCATION ON THE CARE OF THEM.

AND THE, THAT THEY HAD SOME HEAVY EQUIPMENT, UH, BALER AND A TRACTOR AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, FORESTRY DEPARTMENT, STATE FORESTRY DEPARTMENT WAS THERE.

THERE WAS A TABLE WHERE THE KIDS HAD TO MATCH UP FOOD PRODUCTS TO WHERE IT CAME FROM, LIKE EGGS FROM THE CHICKEN AND THAT KIND OF THING.

UM, JELLO KIND OF THREW THEM.

UM, BUT IT WAS A WONDERFUL ALL DAY EVENT, UM, TO BRING IN THOSE KIDS FROM, UM, SY JEFFRIES AS RHODES AND E WILSON MORRISON, I BELIEVE WERE THE SCHOOLS THERE AND THE KIDS HAD A GREAT TIME.

UH, NOVEMBER 11TH, NINTH THROUGH THE 11TH, I WENT TO THE VACO CONFERENCE AND I SAT THROUGH THE VIRGINIA BUDGET AND FINANCE REPORT.

UM, I'M GLAD TO SAY VIRGINIA HAS, UM, DONE WELL AND THERE'S, UM, QUITE A BIT OF SURPLUS AND, UM, FINANCIALLY WE'RE SETTING PRETTY GOOD.

SO I'M HOPING WE DON'T GET A WHOLE LOT OF UNFUNDED MANDATES THIS YEAR.

BUT, UH, THEN I WENT TO THE BUILDING THE WORKFORCE IN VIRGINIA AND, UM, LEARNED THAT THEY HAVE A POT OF MONEY THAT CAN GO FOR VO-TECH BUILDING.

SO I'VE TALKED TO DELEGATE WILEY AND DELEGATE OATS ABOUT HOW WE CAN TAP INTO THAT TO HOPEFULLY GET SOME MONEY TO DO MORE THINGS AND, UH, BUILD UP OUR, UM, VO-TECH CENTER THAT WE HAVE.

THEN I WENT TO HOW COUNTIES ARE WORKING WITH AI AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, AND, UM, I THINK OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS DOING SOME AI STUFF AS WELL.

THEY CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A, A PROGRAM WHERE THE OFFICERS CAN USE AI TO WRITE THEIR REPORTS, WHICH SPEEDS UP THE TIME OF DOING THAT.

AND THERE WAS QUITE A FEW OTHERS, BUT THAT WAS ONE THAT STOOD OUT TO ME.

UM, NOVEMBER 12TH WAS THE DECA COMPETITION.

IT WAS AT THE APPLE BLOSSOM MALL, UM, OVER 300 CHILDREN, UM, TEENAGERS, I SHOULDN'T CALL 'EM CHILDREN, I GUESS, UH, PARTICIPATED IN THAT.

MY SCENARIO WAS ON BULB BUBBLE TEA.

I HAD NEVER HEARD OF IT, AND THEY HAD TO THE MARKET AREAS FROM 12 TO 24 YEAR OLDS, BUT THEY WANTED TO EXTEND THAT TO THE OLDER POPULATION.

I WISH I HAD TWO QUESTIONS I COULD ASK TO KEEP WITH MY SCENARIO.

I WISH I HAD BEEN ABLE TO ASK THEM WHAT THEY CONSIDER ELDERLY BECAUSE, UM, NURSING HOME WAS BROUGHT UP A WHOLE LOT, WHICH WAS MAKING ME FEEL PRETTY OLD THAT NIGHT.

BUT THEY DID A, A TREMENDOUS JOB AND I WAS REALLY, UH, PRIVILEGED TO, TO BE A PART OF THAT.

UH, MET WITH MS. SCOTT AND THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, UM, THAT AFTERNOON, AND THEN ATTENDED THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, UH, MEETING NOVEMBER 13TH.

UM, WE HAD A MEETING WITH CHIEF, MY ASSISTANT CHIEF KO AND SOME COMPANY THREE MEMBERS ON, UM, YOU KNOW, THE FINANCES AND SO FORTH OF COMPANY THREE, UH, SOUTH WARREN FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT'S IN MY AREA.

THEN I WAS ASKED TO ATTEND THE AWARD LUNCHEON OF THE LORD FAIRFAX SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT.

AND THEY HAVE, UM, AWARDS THAT THEY GIVE AWAY FOR CONSERVATION FARMING, AND I DIDN'T KNOW SOME OF THE PEOPLE, BUT THERE'S CLEAN WATER WHERE YOU'RE FENCING OFF TO KEEP ANIMALS OUT OF THE STREAMS, UH, REPAIRING THE CREEKSIDE AND, UH, SMALL STRING SIDES, ALL KINDS OF PROGRAMS LIKE THAT.

AND, UM, THE SCHOENBERG BROTHERS FARMS, WHO, DEAN SCHOENBERG USED TO BE SUPERINTENDENT HERE OF VDOT, THEY WON AN AWARD FOR THEIR BEST PRACTICES.

SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THEM.

UM, THEN I CAME BACK FROM THAT AND WENT TO THE BUILDING COMMITTEE MEETING WHERE WE CONTINUE TO GET TOGETHER AND DISCUSS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT NEEDS AND WHERE WE ARE WITH THINGS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE CHILLER HAS BEEN PUT IN, IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY, AND WE ARE CONSTANTLY HAVING ROOF LEAKS AND DIFFERENT THINGS WE'RE DEALING WITH.

UM, THEN WE WENT

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AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT WAS A WELL ORGANIZED, THE INFORMATION THAT WE GOT AND THE DISCUSSION ON THE BUDGET FOR THE FIRST TIME I THOUGHT WAS VERY WELL DONE.

AND, UM, LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING AS WELL.

UH, THE NEXT TIME WE MEET, AND HOPEFULLY THIS BUDGET SEASON IS, UM, EASIER THIS YEAR.

UH, NOVEMBER 15TH, I WAS A SCHOOL NURSE FOR A LONG TIME AT ONE OF THE SCHOOLS AND I WAS ASKED TO ATTEND THE WEDDING OF A FORMER STUDENT OF MINE.

SO MADE ME FEEL GOOD TO KNOW THAT AFTER ALL THESE YEARS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN MAKE AN IMPACT ON A STUDENT AND BE INCLUDED IN SOMETHING LIKE A WEDDING.

UH, NOVEMBER 17TH PALS, WHICH IS THE POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE, WE HAVE A MEETING OF THAT.

WE'RE, WE'RE DOING PROGRAMS WITH THE YOUTH AND BUILDING THAT UP.

AND, UM, THIS AFTERNOON I ATTENDED THE COMMUNITY POLICY POLICY AND MANAGEMENT WHERE WE, UH, ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF STUDENTS IN, UM, FOSTER CARE AND SPECIAL NEEDS AREAS OF THE, UM, THE SCHOOL.

SO IT'S, UM, BEEN A BUSY COUPLE OF WEEKS AND COMING EVENTS.

UM, THIS FRIDAY, THE 21ST AT 11, WE'RE GONNA DO THE GROUNDBREAKING FINALLY, FOR ALL POINTS BROADBAND.

I THINK THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING HERE IN THE COUNTY, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE THE OFFICIAL GROUNDBREAKING.

UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE ANOTHER SHOUT OUT.

I HAVEN'T DONE IT FOR A WHILE.

UM, ALL OF OUR, I THINK WE ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF VOLUNTEER STATIONS LEFT AS FAR AS FIRE AND RESCUE, BUT ALL OF THEM COULD USE SOME SUPPORT STAFF.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT FIRE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUN RESCUE QUAL, BUT FUNDRAISING TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE COST OF, UM, EQUIPMENT AND DIFFERENT THINGS IS ALWAYS NEEDED.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANNA HAVE A SPAGHETTI MEAL, YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE PEOPLE TO HELP DO THAT.

AND SEVERAL OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENTS STILL DO THOSE THINGS, SO IF YOU'VE GOT SOME EXTRA TIME, UM, I WOULD CHECK IN AND SEE WHERE YOU COULD BE OF SOME HELP LIKE THAT.

IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF FUN AND IT'S VERY REWARDING.

I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THAT THE SALVATION ARMY IS DOING A DINNER AT THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH ON NOVEMBER 26TH AT 6:00 PM AND I THINK THAT'S, I'M NOT SURE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S A FREE WILL OFFERING OR JUST A FREE MEAL.

UM, THINGS THAT THEY HAVE PUT OUT THAT IF YOU ARE ABLE TO, UH, DONATE WOULD BE LARGE TRAYS OF MAC AND CHEESE STUFFING GREEN BEANS AND MASHED POTATOES, AND YOU CAN DROP THOSE OFF AT THE BACK DOOR OF THE SOCIAL HALL KITCHEN AROUND ONE O'CLOCK ON THE 26TH IF YOU'RE ABLE TO.

AND I THINK THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT ABOUT TWO MINUTES UNTIL PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL SEE IF I CAN GET MY REPORT IN REAL QUICK.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO PICK UP WITH WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT VO-TECH.

UH, I JUST SAW AN ARTICLE TWO DAYS AGO.

UH, THE CEO OF FORD WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SHORTAGE OF AUTO MECHANICS, AND THEY HAVE 5,000 JOB OPENINGS AT FORD FOR MECHANICS, AND THEY PAY 120 GRAND AND THEY CAN'T FILL 'EM.

AND IT'S, IT'S, AND I KEEP HEARING THAT ABOUT INDUSTRY AFTER INDUSTRY.

UM, AND, UH, I DEFINITELY THINK IT IT'S TIME, YOU KNOW, FUNDS PERMITTING, WHICH IS ALWAYS THE ISSUE THAT, THAT WE NEED TO EXPAND WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH VO-TECH HERE BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY SUCH A GOOD START.

BUT THERE'S, UH, THERE'S MORE WE COULD DO TO EXPAND THAT PROGRAM.

UM, AS FOR WHAT I'VE BEEN UP TO, UM, I, I, UH, ALSO OBVIOUSLY WAS AT THE JOINT BUDGET SESSION WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD LAST WEEK, AND I AGREE THAT WAS AMAZING TO, TO GET THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THEY PROVIDED WAS QUITE REFRESHING.

EVERY NUMBER YOU COULD CLICK ON IT AND GET TO A BACKING PRESENTATION THAT HAD THE JUSTIFICATION, AND IT WAS, IT WAS VERY HELPFUL.

UM, IT'S, UH, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A NEW WAVE OF COOPERATION AND, UH, I WAS ABLE TO MEET, UH, THE INCOMING SUPERINTENDENT, UH, DR.

OR TREVOR WRIGHT.

UM, AND, UH, HE WAS, UH, LOOKS LIKE HE'LL DO A GOOD JOB.

SO, UM, UH, THAT WAS GREAT.

UH, THIS WEEK I HAD THE, UM, CHAND FARM SANITARY DISTRICT, UM, UH, BIMONTHLY MEETING AND, UH, WHICH RESULTED, UH, IN THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT, I SHOULD SAY LAST WEEK.

THAT WAS, UM, THIS WEEK'S, UH, BEEN BUSY SO FAR WITH, I'VE HAD FOIA TRAINING, UH, RE-UPPING ON THAT.

UH, TOMORROW WE'VE GOT THE TOWN COUNTY TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE MEETING, UH, AND THEN A FIRE AND RESCUE COMMITTEE MEETING RIGHT AFTER THAT.

UM, I'VE GOT THE RSW JAIL COMMITTEE ON THURSDAY AND, UH, THE GROUNDBREAKING FOR ALL POINTS ON FRIDAY.

SO IT'S A BUSY WEEK TRYING TO SQUEEZE IN EVERYTHING FOR THANKSGIVING OR BEFORE THANKSGIVING.

UM, BUT, UH, I WISH EVERYBODY A, UH, HAPPY THANKSGIVING

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UH, AND A REMINDER, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY WORK SESSION OR ANYTHING NEXT WEEK ON TUESDAY, SO HAVE A GOOD WEEK, EVERYBODY.

UM, WITH THAT, I THINK WE'RE RIGHT ABOUT

[I. CUP2025-09-02 - Private Use Camping- 1020 Misty Meadow Lane - A request for a conditional use permit for private use camping. The property is located at 1020 Misty Meadow Lane and is identified on tax map 41A as lot 5. The property is zoned Residential-One (R-1) and is located in the Massanutten View subdivision in the South River Magisterial District. - Kelly Wahl , Planner ]

WE HAVE TWO TONIGHT.

UH, THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS CUP 20 25 0 9 0 2 PRIVATE USE CAMPING AT 10 20 MISTY MEADOW LANE.

UM, THANK YOU MR. VICE CHAIR.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 10 20 MISTY MEADOW LANE IN BENTONVILLE AND IS IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP.

41 A IS LOT FIVE.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL ONE AND IS LOCATED IN THE MASS NUTTON VIEW SUBDIVISION IN THE SOUTH RIVER MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR PRIVATE USE CAMPING ON HIS LOT IN THE MASS NUTTON VIEW SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA.

THE APPLICANT PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN APRIL OF 1999 AND IT SERVES AS HIS SECOND HOME.

THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO USE THE PROPERTY FOR INTERMITTENT CAMPING FOR HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY.

THERE ARE NO ACTIVE ZONING VIOLATIONS ON FILE FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AND THERE IS CURRENTLY ONE OTHER ACTIVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR PRIVATE USE CAMPING APPROXIMATELY NINE PARCELS TO THE EAST ON MISTY MEADOW LANE.

PRIVATE USE CAMPING NON-COMMERCIAL IS DEFINED BY THE WARREN COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE AS NO MORE THAN TWO MAJOR RECREATIONAL VEHICLES USED FOR LIVING, SLEEPING, OR OTHER OCCUPANCY ON ANY LOT OR COMBINATION OF LOTS UNDER ONE OWNERSHIP.

PROVIDED THAT SUCH USE IS LIMITED TO THE OWNER, FAMILY MEMBERS OR GUEST, AND NO FEE IS CHARGED FOR CAMPING.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM ON OCTOBER 8TH, 2025, WHERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MOVED TO FORWARD THIS APPLICATION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AND IT PASSED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.

STAFF DID RECEIVE AN ANONYMOUS COMPLAINT, WHICH HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET.

THE APPLICANT DID ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS, UH, PRIOR TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING BACK IN OCTOBER.

PLANNING, COMMISSION AND PLANNING STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS BE ADDED TO THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CHOOSE TO APPROVE THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.

NUMBER TWO, MATERIALS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CAMPERS ARE TO BE STORED IN A NEAT AND ORDERLY FASHION DURING THE TIME OF USE AND ARE TO BE REMOVED FROM THE SITE WHEN NOT IN USE.

NUMBER THREE, ANY DEVELOPMENT STRUCTURE OR FENCING WITHIN THE SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREAS SHALL REQUIRE A BUILDING AND ZONING PERMIT.

AND NUMBER FOUR, THE APPLICANT SHALL POST THE PROPERTY WITH A LOCKED PARCEL NUMBER FOR FIRE AND EMERGENCY RESCUE SERVICES AND HAVE AN EMERGENCY EGRESS PLAN FOR REMOVAL OF THE RECREATIONAL VEHICLES AND PORTABLE COMMODE PRIOR TO ANY PREDICTED FLOOD EVENT.

THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED AND MR. ELLIS, THE APPLICANT IS HERE WITH US THIS EVENING IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MS. FALLON.

WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS JOHN ELLIS.

I LIVE AT 2 1 7 2 3 OATLANDS ROAD IN ALDI, VIRGINIA.

MY FAMILY AND I HAVE OWNED OUR PROPERTY HERE ON THE RIVER IN WARREN COUNTY, WHICH WE LOVE VERY MUCH SHARE IT WITH OUR FAMILIES.

WE'VE SEEN PEOPLE GROW UP THERE, SO WE HAD, UH, BEEN CAMPING ON THE PROPERTY, DIDN'T REALIZE WE NEEDED A PRIVATE USE CAMPING.

THEY SAID WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE, UH, IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.

KELLY'S BEEN GREAT IN LETTING US KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND EVERYTHING, SO WE'VE ALREADY, WE GOT SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT SOME MESSINESS AND EVERYTHING.

WE'VE REMEDIED THAT TO WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THE RIGHT LEVEL, BUT I'M SURE KELLY WOULD COME OUT AND CHECK IT OUT IF SHE, IF SHE, IF WE EVER NEED TO.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERN FOR STAFF? OKAY.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

MR. HENDERSON, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? UM, JOHN AND NIKKI ELLIS DID SIGN UP TO SPEAK, BUT I THINK THEY JUST HANDLED THAT ALREADY, SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, NO, SIR.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.

PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR PRIVATE USE CAMPAIGN AT 10 20.

MR. MEADOW LANE WITH CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.

SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MRS. S AYE.

MR. STAN MEYER.

AYE.

DR.

JAMISON? AYE.

MR. HENRY? AYE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING

[J. Z2025-09-02 - Subdivision Text Amendments for Family Subdivision Variances - An ordinance to amend Chapter 155 of the Warren County Code (Subdivision Ordinance) to amend the definition of subdivision to add a provision to relax specific criteria of substantial injustice or hardship for family subdivision variances. - Chase Lenz, Zoning Administrator]

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THANK YOU.

ATTACHED, YOU'LL FIND A DRAFT ORDINANCE PROPOSING TO AMEND SUBSECTION 1 55 DASH THREE B OF THE WARREN COUNTY CODE TO ADD A PROVISION RELAXING CRITERIA ONE, TWO, AND FIVE OF THE SUBSTANTIAL INJUSTICE OR HARDSHIP REQUIRED BY SUBSECTION 1 55 DASH 18 B FOR REQUESTS FOR SUBDIVISION VARIANCES FROM THE FAMILY SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENT FOR THE OWNER TO HAVE HELD FEE.

SIMPLE TITLE TO THE PROPERTY TO BE SUBDIVIDED FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS PRIOR TO THE FILING OF A FAMILY SUBDIVISION APPLICATION WITH THE COUNTY.

THESE AMENDMENTS ARE BEING REQUESTED BY PLANNING STAFF.

HOWEVER, THERE IS AN ACTIVE, UH, SUBDIVISION VARIANCE APPLICATION IN PLAT CURRENTLY ON HOLD THAT CAN CANNOT BE APPROVED WITHOUT THESE AMENDMENTS.

UH, THESE AMENDMENTS FOLLOW THE ADOPTION OF A FULL SET OF AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 1 55 OF THE SUB SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE EARLIER THIS YEAR, NECESSITATED BY RECENT CHANGES TO THE CODE OF VIRGINIA, ELIMINATING PLANNING COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS OF SUPERVISORS AS APPROVING AUTHORITIES FOR SUBDIVISION PLATS, WHICH WILL INCLUDE, UH, SUBDIVISION VARIANCES.

HISTORICALLY, SUBDIVISION VARIANCES FROM THIS REQUIREMENT FOR THE OWNER TO HAVE HELD FEE SIMPLE TITLE TO THE PROPERTY FOR FIVE YEARS PRIOR TO THE FAMILY SUBDIVISION FILING, UH, HAVE BEEN GRANTED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR PERSONAL REASONS WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE UNFULFILLED PORTION OF THE TIMEFRAME BE ADDED ON TO THE RESTRICTION OF FIVE YEARS BEFORE THE GRANTEES LOT CAN BE VOLUNTARILY TRANSFERRED TO AN NON IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER.

HOWEVER, PER SUBSECTION 1 55 DASH 18 B.

IN GRANTING A SUBDIVISION VARIANCE, THE SUBDIVISION ADMINISTRATOR MUST FIND A SUBSTANTIAL INJUSTICE OR HARDSHIP EXISTS, AND THAT IS FURTHER DEFINED BY THAT SUBSECTION, REQUIRING THE HARDSHIP TO BE PHYSICAL IN NATURE, UNIQUE TO THE LOT TO BE SUBDIVIDED AND NOT SELF-INFLICTED IN SIMPLE, SIMPLER TERMS. THE SUBDIVISION VARIANCE SUBSECTION DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THE SUBDIVISION ADMINISTRATOR TO GRANT VARIANCES BASED ON HARDSHIPS THAT ARE PERSONAL IN NATURE.

THESE AMENDMENTS WOULD ALIGN THE CURRENT CONSIDERATIONS FOR, UH, SUBDIVISION VARIANCE FROM THIS SPECIFIC FAMILY SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENT WITH THE HISTORIC CONSIDERATIONS DEMONSTRATED IN THE HISTORIC GRANTING OF THESE VARIANCES BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

AND, UH, YOU MAY NOTE THAT THE PROPO PROPOSED PROVISION IS ALREADY IN PLACE FOR THE GRANTEES RESTRICTION OF FIVE YEARS BEFORE IT CAN BE TRANSFERRED.

THESE AMENDMENTS JUST PULL THAT SAME PROVISION UNDER THE GRANTOR'S REQUIREMENT OF, UH, FIVE YEARS.

IF THESE AMENDMENTS ARE ADOPTED, THE SUBDIVISION ADMINISTRATOR WILL CONTINUE THE PRACTICE OF APPLYING A CONDITION IN THE GRANTING OF A VARIANCE THAT THE UNFULFILLED PORTION OF THE TIMEFRAME SHALL BE ADDED ONTO THE RESTRICTION OF FIVE YEARS BEFORE THE GRANTEES LOT CAN BE VOLUNTARILY TRANSFERRED TO AN NON IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER.

UH, IT DIDN'T INCLUDE THE ENTIRE VARIANCE CODE ON, ON MY COVER SHEET FOR YOUR REVIEW.

AND AGAIN, IT IS, UM, 0.1, TWO, AND FIVE THAT WOULD BE RELAXED.

UM, POINTS THREE AND FOUR WOULD STILL STAND AND BE APPLICABLE TO ANY APPLICATION.

UM, BUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, THEIR PUBLIC HEARING IN OCTOBER AND THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.

I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT? NO.

I TALKED TO, UH, PLANNING EARLIER TODAY AND THEY ANSWERED ALL MINE AND YOU ALL, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UH, O OBVIOUSLY WE ALREADY, UH, MADE CHANGES TO THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE EARLIER THIS YEAR.

THIS IS TYING UP SOME LOOSE ENDS AND, AND BRINGING US INTO COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.

SO IT IS, UM, THE CHANGE IN THE APPROVING AUTHORITY.

IT, IT'S A DIFFERENCE IN BETWEEN A LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY AND ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY.

I HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CODE TO OR PLANNING STAFF HAS TO FOLLOW THE CODE TO THE LETTER AND IT CALLS FOR A PHYSICAL REASON TO BE THE BASIS OF A VARIANCE.

THIS RELAXES THAT REQUIREMENT ALLOWS TO BE FOR IT TO BE MORE PERSONAL OR FAMILY NEED BASED, UH, REQUEST, WHICH, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY HAS BEEN APPLICABLE FROM, FROM WHEN THE BOARD HAS HAS REVIEWED THESE SINCE THEY'RE FOR FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? PUBLIC, PUBLIC HEARING.

OH, THANKS.

THANKS FOR KEEPING ME HONEST.

MR. HENDERSON.

UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

MR. HENDERSON, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? UH, YES, SIR.

ROLAND BARR.

HELLO, I'M ROLAND BARR.

I LIVE AT 4 88 SHENANDOAH HEIGHTS ROAD.

UM, I'M JUST GONNA SAY THE PROBABLY WHAT CHASE SAID IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, AND I EXPLAINED MY SITUATION.

I'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY FOR TWO YEARS IN GREENHILL FOREST.

I'D LIKE TO BUILD MY 84-YEAR-OLD MOTHER A HOUSE ON MY PROPERTY, WHICH I SHOULD BE ABLE TO SUBDIVIDE.

I'VE GOT OVER 10 ACRES THERE.

UM, BECAUSE THE

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IT'S NOT THE, UH, COUNTY MAINTENANCE.

UH, I THE OWN.

I'VE BEEN TOLD THE ONLY SUBDIVISION I CAN GET IS A FAMILY SUBDIVISION.

AND, UH, SO I WOULD NEED THIS, THIS VARIANCE IN ORDER TO, UH, NOT HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER THREE YEARS, AT WHICH POINT MY MOM WILL BE 87.

AND, UH, THIS IS PROBLEMATIC FOR US.

UM, SO IN MAY, I, I WAS TALKING TO THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATOR, UH, WHO'S NOW RETIRED, AND I SUBMITTED MY APPLICATION AND THEN WE TALKED AND DECIDED TO PUT THAT ON HOLD, UH, BECAUSE OF THIS ANTICIPATED CHANGE IN EARLY JULY WHERE IT WAS GONNA BECOME AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS.

AND I WAS THINKING, WELL, BY THE END OF JULY, HE COULD HAVE IT APPROVED.

I'D SAVE MYSELF A MONTH OR TWO ON THE USUAL THREE TO FOUR MONTHS THAT THIS WHOLE TWO COMMITTEE PROCESS WOULD TAKE.

UM, BUT THE PROCESS WAS UNDER SOME SCRUTINY AND THE, UM, ATTORNEY CLARIFIED WITH CHASE THAT IT'S REALLY NOT SPELLED OUT IN THE RULES, THE PRACTICES THAT THE BOARD HAD BEEN DOING OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS IN GRANTING THESE, THESE VARIANCES.

UM, SO, UM, I WON'T REPEAT THE OTHER STUFF CHASE SAID.

UH, MY, I WOULD JUST STATE MY, UH, MY FINAL PLEA IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, SINCE THE LAST, UH, PLANNING, COMMISSION MEETING LAST MONTH, UH, MY MOM'S HAD A, HER FIRST EVER TIA, SHE'S BEEN STARTED ON THREE MEDICATIONS.

AND, UH, SUFFICE TO SAY THAT, UH, WAITING ANOTHER THREE YEARS IS NOT REALLY A TENABLE OPTION FOR US AS, UH, SHE'LL LIKELY REQUIRE, UH, A HIGHER, YOU KNOW, LEVEL OF SUPPORT FAIRLY SOON.

UM, SO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER FINE TUNING OF THE CHANGE TO THE NEW, NEW ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS THAT, UH, YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, UH, SEEING DONE, UM, PLEASE DEAL WITH THAT IN THE FUTURE AND AT LEAST APPROVE THIS, UH, ONE, UH, LITTLE AMENDMENT, UH, FOR MY FAMILY'S, UH, BENEFIT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? UH, NO SIR.

THAT'S ALL.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT? OKAY, COME FORWARD.

THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS CHRIS MCMAHON.

I SHOULD WAIT TILL I GET UP HERE, HUH? UM, I AND MY SON'S OWN CORNERSTONE CONSTRUCTION.

WE'RE FRIENDS WITH ROLAND AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE BUILDING HIS MOTHER'S HOUSE.

UH, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GO OVER SOME PERSONAL HISTORY.

IN 1987, MY WIFE AND MY CHILDREN MOVED NEXT TO MY PARENTS AND FOR THE NEXT 11 YEARS, THEY WERE A GREAT BLESSING TO US AND I, AND WE WERE TO THEM.