* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] OKAY. UH, IT'S OFFICIALLY AFTERNOON, SO GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. AND IT'S MAY 5TH, 2026, AS I'VE JUST BEEN TOLD, SINK OF DE MAYO DAY. UM, AND WE'RE GONNA START OFF WITH A CLOSED SESSION. SO, MR. CARTER, IF YOU WOULD READ US INTO CLOSED SESSION, I'D APPRECIATE IT. YES, MA'AM. UH, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ENTER INTO A CLOSED MEETING UNDER SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 A ONE FOR THE DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION, OR INTERVIEWS FOR PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES FOR EMPLOYMENT ASSIGNMENT, APPOINTMENT PROMOTION, PERFORMANCE, SALARIES, OR RESIGNATION OF SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICERS, APPOINTEES OR EMPLOYEES OF THE PUBLIC BODY. THE SUBJECT MATTER IS THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, AND DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POSITIONS. IS THERE SECOND. SECOND. ROLL CALL MR. HENDERSON. DR. JAMESON AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. MR. CARTER? AYE. MR. STAN MEYER? AYE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. CARTER, WOULD YOU READ US OUT OF A CLOSED SESSION, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. I MOVE THAT THE BOARD CERTIFIES TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS, LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 A, ONE OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, AND ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVENED, WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING BY THE PUBLIC BODY. IS THERE SECOND? SECOND ROLL CALL MR. HENDERSON. DR. JAMESON AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. MR. CARTER? AYE. MR. STANIER? AYE. OKAY. ACCORDING TO MY O'CLOCK, WE'VE GOT ABOUT TWO MINUTES BEFORE WE CAN START THE MEETING. SO WE'VE GOT A LAST FEW MINUTES FOR A BREAK. [C. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America] GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU FOR COMING TO THE MAY 5TH, 2026 MEETING OF A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. AS MR. CARTER TOLD ME EARLIER, IT'S CINCO DE MAYO DAY AND GAVE ME A PACK OF MAYONNAISE TO GO WITH THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO ASK PASTOR ERIC, AND I'M NOT GONNA TRY TO SAY YOUR LAST NAME AND MESS IT UP. , APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND, UH, STARTING OFF WITH A MOMENT OF PRAYER, SIR. HEY, FATHER, I COME TO YOU WITH A POSTURE OF HUMILITY AND JUST ASKING FOR YOU TO WORK IN AND THROUGH US AND THANK YOU FOR THESE FOLKS THAT YOU HAVE PUT IN A LEADERSHIP POSITION FOR THIS COUNTY. AND I PRAY, FATHER, YOU GIVE THEM WISDOM, UM, AND THE SPIRIT OF UNDERSTANDING AND, UH, THAT YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD HELP THEM STEWARD WELL THE POSITION THAT YOU'VE TRUSTED THEM WITH. AND I PRAY, FATHER, THAT WE BE SUPPORTIVE AND, AND PRAYERFUL. AND THAT IN THIS MEETING, THE AGENDA THAT IS BROUGHT FORTH WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. AND UH, GOD, WE JUST WANNA DO THE RIGHT THING AND WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT YOU COULD DO A MUCH BETTER JOB THAN WE. AND SO WE ASK FOR YOUR HELP. IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. AT THIS TIME, IF YOU'D STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PGI TO THE AND TO THE STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL JUSTICE. I CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. ARE THERE [D. Adoption of Agenda – Additions or Deletions] ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA? UM, I GUESS WE GET TO THAT AT, AT THE CONSENT AGENDA WHEN WE WANNA PULL SOMETHING OFF THEN, RIGHT? CORRECT. MY BAD. ALRIGHT, THANKS. UM, HEARING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENT? SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ROLL CALL. MR. HENDERSON. DR. JAMISON. A MADAM CHAIR. AYE. MR. CARTER? AYE. MR. STAN MEYER. AYE. AND [E. Presentation - Virginia Department of Transportation (VDOT)] FIRST ON THE AGENDA IS, UM, REPORT FROM THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. MR. SMITH, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS. UM, JUST WANNA RUN THROUGH SOME OF OUR RECENT MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES WITH YOU ALL. UM, THE PAST MONTH WE HAVE GONE THROUGH AND, UM, WORKED ON GRADING AND PLACING STONE ON ALL THE COUNTIES, UH, NON HARD SURFACE ROADS. WE'VE ALSO, UM, BEEN PERFORMING TREE TRIMMING OPERATIONS ON ROBINSON ROAD AND FAIRGROUND ROAD. AND WE CONTINUE, WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THOSE TREE TRIMMING OPERATIONS THIS MONTH. UM, [00:05:01] WE'VE DONE SOME SPOT MOWING AT SOME INTERSECTIONS TO IMPROVE SITE DISTANCE AND DONE SOME SLOPE MOWING ON ROCKLAND ROAD AND ON ROUTE 55. AND WE PLAN NEXT WEEK TO KIND OF START OUR FIRST, OUR SPRING MOWING CYCLE TO KICK THAT OFF. SO, UM, WE'VE ALSO BEEN DOING SHOULDER REPAIRS ON VARIOUS ROUTES AND WE'LL CONTINUE THAT THROUGH THE NEXT MONTH. AND, UM, WE DID SOME SURFACE REPAIRS ON DAUGHTERS, DAUGHTERS OF THE STAR, DAUGHTER OF THE STARS DRIVE. UM, AND THAT'S IN, IN ADVANCE OF THE PAVING SCHEDULE FOR THIS YEAR THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GET A LATEX UH, OVERLAY ON THAT ROAD. AND, UM, WE'VE GOT SOME PIPE FLUSHING PLANNED AND SOME DITCH, UH, CLEANING PLAN FOR THE REST OF THE MONTH. SO, UM, AND THAT'S ALL I KIND OF HAVE ON THE MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES FOR BOARD ISSUES. UM, THE ROCKY HOLLOW RESTORATION IS COMPLETE AND THEN AS OF TODAY, THE RELIANCE ROAD CENTER LINE, UM, WAS DONE IN THAT AREA. ME TOO. AND THEN IT IS ON THE SCHEDULE TO GET A REFRESH OF THE WHOLE ROAD. SO THEY JUST WENT IN TODAY AND, AND DID THE CENTER LINE WHERE, UM, WE HAD DONE PATCHING. SO THANK YOU. THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I'LL BE GLAD TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT THE BOARD HAS. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU 'CAUSE I, AT SOME POINT YOU ALL ALSO GOT TO THE, THE POTHOLES AROUND THE BRIDGES ON 6 0 6 OVER THE INTERSTATE, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. UM, I ALSO SAW THEY DID SOME PATCHING ON, UH, HAPPY CREEK BETWEEN 6 0 6 AND DSMA HOLLOW. OKAY. UH, WHICH, UH, WAS HELPFUL. THERE'S DRAINAGE ISSUES THERE AS YOU KNOW. UH, I DID SEE ONE AREA THAT'S CRUMBLING PRETTY BAD ON THE FOG LINE, STILL IN THERE. THEY MAY WANT TO CHECK THAT OUT. WHERE WAS THAT? ON THE, UH, ON HAPPY CREEK ROAD, UH, BETWEEN NANDO SHORES ROAD AND DEMA HOLLOW. OKAY. I HAD, UM, I THINK I HAD TALKED TO MR. CARTER BACK A WHILE ABOUT THE SUBDIVISION OFF OF BROWNTOWN ROAD, UM, MEADOWBROOK COURT WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE, UM, YOUR TEAM TO COME IN. IT'S PRIVATE NOW. THEY'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO BRING THAT UP TO STATE MINIMUM STANDARDS SO IT COULD POSSIBLY GO INTO THE STATE SYSTEM. UM, I FORGET HOW MANY HOUSES WAS ON THAT AND YEAH, I REMEMBER YOU HAD BROUGHT THAT UP. I, I RELAYED THAT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT SECTION. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE MET WITH THEM YET OR CONTACTED. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING. OKAY. I KNOW THE PROPERTY OWNERS WANTED TO BE, YOU KNOW, MAKE THEIRSELVES AVAILABLE, UM, SO THAT THEY WOULD BE PART OF THAT CONVERSATION OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT UPGRADES AND WHAT'S INVOLVED. SO. YEAH. OKAY. AND YEAH, I'LL, UM, I'LL, I CAN FORWARD YOU THAT INFORMATION AGAIN IF YOU NEED IT. YEAH. THAT IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T MIND SENDING ME AN EMAIL, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. BUT I'LL, I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THEM. 'CAUSE I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE CURRENT STATUS IS ON THAT, IF THEY MET OR NOT. I TOLD HIM I KNEW WE'D NEED TO GET THROUGH THE WINTER STUFF BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH ALL THAT PROBABLY BE SPRINGTIME. SO I JUST DIDN'T WANT IT TO FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS ON FOR EITHER OF US. AND, UM, THEN ON PANHANDLE ROAD FROM WHERE THE CURRENT, UM, RURAL RUSTIC SURFACE TREATMENT STOPPED TO THE TOP OF THE HILL, I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE FA PAST ABOUT POSSIBLE FUNDING THROUGH ONE OF YOUR RESOURCES OF PAVING UP AT LEAST TO THE TOP BECAUSE OF MM-HMM . THE, UM, DIFFICULT MAINTENANCE IT IS TO KEEP THAT AND WHEN IT RAINS AND SO FORTH. SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE YOU WERE WITH THAT AND I DIDN'T WANT IT TO FALL BETWEEN THE CRACKS EITHER. OKAY. YEAH, NO, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT BACK ON OUR RADAR. WE, UM, WE HAVEN'T ADVANCED ANYTHING ON THAT YET, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT AND, AND, AND SEE WHAT FUNDS. I, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT KIND OF FUNDING WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO DO THAT. YEAH, I DON'T REMEMBER. I JUST KNOW HE SAID THAT HE THOUGHT THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE IN ALL THE DIFFERENT FACETS OF MONEY DISTRIBUTION THAT VDOT HAS, THAT IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE. AND I KNOW THAT'S A CONTINUAL GRADE AND TWO DAYS LATER IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE THING. SO YEAH. AND THEN RIGHT NOW WE'RE KIND OF IN A, A TIGHT HOLDING PATTERN TILL WE GET TO JULY AND THE FISCAL YEAR. YEP. 'CAUSE WE'RE, I UNDERSTAND KIND OF OVERSPENT ON FUNDS RIGHT NOW, BUT SO, WELL, I, I, LIKE I SAID, I WANNA KEEP IT ON BOTH OUR RADARS SO IT DOESN'T FALL. AND, UM, JUST ONCE AGAIN, I WANNA SAY HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE ALL THAT THE GUYS DO. I KNOW JUST IT'S A SMALL GROUP OF, UM, STAFF THERE THAT HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO DO AND DO APPRECIATE IT. ANYONE ELSE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING YOU WANNA BRING OUT? ALL RIGHT. LOOKS LIKE YOU GOT OFF EASY TODAY. WELL, THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S THE WAY I LIKE IT. I'LL JUST JUST SAY THANKS FOR GETTING THAT STRIPING DONE. A LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS ON THAT ROAD HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR IT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT WE GOT THERE. YEAH. THANK YOU. I'M GLAD WE GOT THAT ACCOMPLISHED. YEAH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHTY. THANK YOU. AND [F. Sheriff's Office Introduction - New Hires and Promotions] NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS INTRODUCTION, UM, OF NEW HIRES AND PROMOTIONS FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. [00:10:05] GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR. BOARD MEMBERS, UH, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL AND I'LL CALL ON MY HERE IN A MINUTE. SHERIFF KLINE, SEND HER APOLOGIES THAT SHE COULD NOT MAKE IT. SO SENT ME TO SPEAK HERE TODAY. SO WE'VE GOT SEVERAL, WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE SEVERAL NEW HIRES AS WELL AS SOME PROMOTIONS, AND WE HAVE, UH, AND FIELD TRAINING OFFICER RELEASE. SO, UH, IF YOU GUYS WANNA COME OUT, WE HAVE THE ONES THAT ARE HERE. AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND RECOGNIZE THE ONES THAT AREN'T HERE. YEP. AND THAT NEEDS TO HAVE TO COME UP FRONT. YEP. AND SIT IN THE BACK. COME ON UP. SO FIRST WE HAVE OUR NEW HIRES. UH, WE HAVE MELISSA PAINTER OVER HERE. MELISSA COMES TO US WITH, UH, SEVERAL YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, COMING FROM CHEN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AS WELL AS, UH, A LONG TIME IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM FROM THE COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. SHE IS OUR NEW ACCREDITATION MANAGER SLASH TRAINING COORDINATOR. UH, SO SHE CAME TO US IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR. EVERY TO MY LEFT, I HAVE ALYSSA. SHE'S A NEW HIRE RATCLIFFE WITH THE COMMUNICATION CENTER. SHE CAME WITH US WITH JULY, 2025. UH, SHE ENJOYS OUTSIDE OF WORK. SHE ENJOYS SPENDING TIME WITH HER EXTENDED FAMILY, UH, AS WELL AS FULFILLING HER CAREER IN PUBLIC SAFETY. UH, TO MY RIGHT, I HAVE CY WEBB. UH, HE IS A NEW HIRE AS WELL. AND, UH, HE CAME TO US AND HE'S OUR NEWEST HIRE IN MARCH OF 2026. HE'S A RESIDENT AND GRADUATE OF PAGE COUNTY. UH, HE HAS ASPIRATIONS OF FLIPPING OVER TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE AND BEING A, UH, SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR WITH NARCOTICS SIDE. UH, BRITTANY'S BACK HERE. UH, SO WE HAVE BRITTANY, SHE CAME TO US IN NOVEMBER OF 2025 AS WELL. UH, SHE SERVES AS A ECC SPECIALIST. SHE'S GOT OVER A DECADE OF EXPERIENCE OPERATING. UH, SHE CAME FROM PAGE COUNTY EMERGENCY EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION CENTER. SO I HAVE TWO OTHER NEW HIRES THAT IS DEPUTY CAROL. THEY'RE NOT HERE. DEPUTY CAROL AND DEPUTY WEAVER. UH, BOTH THEM ARE PART-TIME EMPLOYEES AT THE COURTHOUSE. THEY BOTH CAME FROM HERNDON POLICE, UH, WITH, UH, OVER 30, 40 YEARS EXPERIENCE. SO THEY'RE OUR NEWEST PART-TIME EMPLOYEES DOWN AT THE COURTHOUSE. UH, OUR PROMOTIONS, UH, THE ONES THAT WE HAVE HERE IS COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST SEAN DEAN. UH, SEAN PROMOTED, UH, TO COMMUNICATION SUPERVISOR WITH OVER 11 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, UH, IN NOVEMBER OF 2025. UH, THROUGHOUT HIS TENURE, HE HAS SUCCESSFULLY NAVIGATED NUMEROUS CHALLENGES AND CONTINUES TO ACTIVELY CONTRIBUTE TO THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE, UH, CENTER ON A DAILY BASIS. UH, AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE'RE, UH, UPGRADING OUR SYSTEM AND SEAN HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL, UH, SUCCESS TO THAT, AS THAT'S GONNA BE A LONG PROCESS. UH, LIEUTENANT CLAUDER BUCK IS OVER HERE, UH, TO MY RIGHT. UH, LIEUTENANT GLADDER BUCK, UH, BEGAN HIS CAREER IN THE T 2010 AS A COMMUNICATION OFFICER. HE LATER WAS, UH, TRANSFERRED OVER TO A PATROL DEPUTY. HE WAS ASSIGNED TO PATROL. HE WAS PROMOTED TO SERGEANT IN 2021, AND THEN MOST RECENTLY TO LIEUTENANT IN 2025, UH, OF THE PATROL DIVISION. HE'S THE LEAD FIELD TRAINING OFFICER AS WELL AS THE FSST INSTRUCTOR, WHERE HE THOROUGHLY ENJOYS BEING ABLE TO, UH, GO OVER TO THE ACADEMY AND ASSIST WITH THE NEW RECRUITS. UH, HE ENJOYS SPENDING TIME WITH HIS FAMILY AND BEING OUTDOORS. UH, WE ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER PROMOTIONS THAT ARE NOT HERE. WE HAVE SERGEANT ANDERSON, WHO WAS PROMOTED TO SERGEANT. HE IS, UH, IF YOU SEE ROOSTER, ONE OF OUR CANINES. UH, HE IS, UH, ROOSTER'S HANDLER. SO HE GOT PRO, UH, PROMOTED. UH, SERGEANT LANG IS, UH, OVER THE COURT SERVICES CAPTAIN POWELL. YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN HIM OUT. HE'S ACTUALLY IN TRAINING THIS WEEK. HE, UH, TOOK MY POSITION, UH, AS THE SUPPORT SERVICES CAPTAIN. AND OUR LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS YOU WANNA DO Z OR ZOFF. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? UH, HE GOES BY Z BUT IT'S DEPUTY ZOL CALLER. HE, UH, RECENTLY GOT, UH, RELEASED FROM FIELD TRAINING. UH, HE BEGAN IN JUNE OF 2025, ATTENDED THE SKYLINE CRIMINAL JUSTICE ACADEMY. GRADUATED IN IN NOVEMBER OF 2025. UH, HE ACTUALLY, UH, RECEIVED THE PRETIGIOUS RICKY TIMBROOK AWARD WHILE AT THE ACADEMY, UH, FOR HIS PERFORMANCE AND PROFESSIONALISM. UH, HE COMPLETED THE 12 WEEK FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM. HE WAS RELEASED, UH, TWO MONTHS AGO AND NOW ASSIGNED TO PATROL ACT, OR SORRY, LAST MONTH, PATROL DUTIES. WHILE HE'S OFF DUTY, HE ENJOYS SPENDING TIME WITH HIS FAMILY AND MAKING THE MOST OF TIME WORK OUTSIDE, UH, VERY DEDICATED. HE WATCHES SPORTS AND DOCUMENTARIES. UH, WE HAD A LAST MINUTE, UH, PEOPLE GET SICK AND HE CAME IN LAST NIGHT, UH, AND COVERED. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND WELCOME TO OUR NEW, UH, EMPLOYEES PROMOTIONS AND, UH, RELEASES. THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR CHOOSING TO COME TO WARREN COUNTY AND WORK AND TO STAY IN WARREN COUNTY. FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE, APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO. LOOKING FORWARD TO, UM, SEEING MORE OF YOU ON THE LEGAL SIDE OF THAT . I WILL SAY THAT. SO THANK YOU. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. STAY SAFE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. [G. Public Comment Period (60 Minute Time Limit)] [00:15:01] WE'RE AT THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. AND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS WHERE YOU GET A THREE MINUTE, UM, TIME TO COME UP, SAY YOUR NAME AND DISTRICT, UM, TO SPEAK ON WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA OR WHAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. AND ALL COMMENTS WILL BE DIRECTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND NOT TO THE AUDIENCE. BE CONSIDERATE OF YOUR FELLOW SPEAKERS. THERE SHOULD BE NO APPLAUSE, BOOING OR OTHER HONORABLE DISRUPTION TO THE PROCEEDINGS. UM, THROUGH A SHOW OF HANDS. AND I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE THAT. IT'S NOT THAT LARGE A GROUP. UH, I COULD ASK FOR SUPPORT OF COMMENTS MADE BY SPEAKERS. PLACARDS, POSTERS, AND OTHER MEANS OF VISUAL DISPLAY OF COMMENTS WILL NOT BE PERMITTED. BUT THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE, UH, INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS AS PART OF A FACTUAL PRESENTATION. THE BOARD DOES NOT TOLERATE PERSONAL ATTACKS BY ANYONE AND ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THE GUIDELINES WILL BE ASKED TO LEAVE. MR. HENDERSON, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? YES, MA'AM. FIRST UP IS LOUIS MOTON. GOOD MORNING. WELL, NO, IT'S AFTERNOON. I DON'T KNOW WHY I KEEP THINKING THIS MORNING. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS LOUIS MOTON OF NORTH NORTH RIVER DISTRICT. UM, FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR THIS SUPPORT WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE POLICE, EVERYBODY FROM APRIL 30TH WITH THE ROYAL VISIT. I WOULD LIKE SOME KIND OF OFFICIAL RECOGNITION OF THAT EVENT, PREFERABLY ANNUALLY, MAYBE SOMETHING WITH AN EVENT INVOLVING THE WHOLE COUNTY AS WELL AS THE TOWN WITH EVERYWHERE THAT THEY VISITED. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE AIRPORT BOX HANGER PROJECT AND THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE. AND I'M, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST THE AIRPORT, BUT FROM WHAT I SAW WITH THE BUDGET THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US, WE WERE TOLD THAT WE WERE DOING THE BARE NECESSITY OF WHAT EACH DEPARTMENT NEEDED, AND THE T HANGERS WERE ACTUALLY REMOVED FROM THAT PROPOSED BUDGET. AND NOW I SAW THAT WE ARE NOW FIELDING, UH, BIDS FOR AN RFP TO USE OUR GENERAL FUND FOR THAT, FOR THAT BUDGET. AND I SPOKE AGAINST USING THE GENERAL FUND AGAINST, UH, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ACTUALLY STABLE. WE DON'T HAVE A CLEAR BASELINE, UM, AND THAT THE, THE FUNDS WERE ALREADY ALREADY EARMARKED. WE'VE GOT SCHOOLS, WE'VE GOT THIS BUILDING WITH A LEAKING ROOF WHERE AT LEAST I, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S STILL THERE. I'VE POINTED OUT BEFORE, UM, WE'VE GOT, UH, I THINK IT'S A H HVAC UNIT ON A SCHOOL, ON A SCHOOL AS WELL. THE, WE'VE ALREADY GOT LIKE OVER $11 MILLION. I THINK THAT'S BEEN EARMARKED. AND NOW WE'RE PUTTING THE AIRPORT IN, IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOLS. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S LIKE A $60,000 SAVINGS IF WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET NOW INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR AUDITS TO COMPLETE AND THEN GOING AFTER A LOAN WITHOUT TAXES. UM, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S, IT'S REALLY WRONG HERE. AND ONCE THOSE AUDITS COME THROUGH, WHICH THEY KEEP GETTING PUSHED BACK, THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING I I, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE OLD FINANCE CHAIR OR FINANCE COMMITTEE CHAIR WHO'S SAYING THAT THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG CONSTANTLY, AND SHE KEEPS TALKING ABOUT IT ONLINE. YOU'VE GOT ONE OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TALKING THAT THEY, THEY BOTH WANT A FORENSIC AUDIT. SO IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, LET'S, LET'S BE READY FOR IT IN CASE SOMETHING DOES COME UP. AND THE OTHER THING IS, I WANNA SEE MORE ON THE STATUS. WHY ARE WE GETTING PUSHED BACK? IS THERE ANY PROGRESS AT ALL? WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH ALL THESE, UH, UNRESOLVED CHECKS? I I THINK THERE'S LIKE 14 MILLION OR SO, OR 14,000 CHECKS. I WANNA SEE WHAT'S, HOW ARE WE, HOW ARE WE ADDRESSING THIS PROBLEM OTHER THAN DELAYING IT, GETTING ANOTHER COPY ON IT. WHERE'S THE PROGRESS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS MARY FLYNN. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR. AND, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK. UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I SENT AN EMAIL TO YOU EARLY THIS MORNING. I'M SORRY. I THREW IT TOGETHER VERY QUICKLY. UM, AND I JUST GAVE THE EYES A COPY OF IT. SO THEY HAVE FULL VISIBILITY ON, UM, ON OUR, OUR, UH, COMMENTS. UM, SO FROM SOUTH DISTRICT MARY FLYNN, MY HUSBAND AND I, UM, YUAN SANG LIVE AT THE PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT TO THE PROPOSED CAMPGROUND. UH, WE THINK THAT WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HAS GREATLY IMPROVED. UM, BUT WE THINK THAT WE NEED A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION ON SOME OF THE TERMS BECAUSE THERE'S REMNANTS OF THE OLD, UM, UH, APPLICATIONS FOR 200 SITES AND A HUNDRED SITES, AND WE JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY CLEAR ON WHAT [00:20:01] WE'RE GETTING. UM, SO THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, OPINIONS . UM, I, WE STILL THINK THAT THE SITE PLAN IS A LITTLE BIT INADEQUATE. UM, IT DOESN'T REALLY GIVE A GOOD SENSE OF WHAT IS REALLY GONNA BE IMPLEMENTED. UM, SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO REALLY COMMENT ON IT TOO CLEARLY. BUT, UM, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE OVERARCHING THING. UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF SITES BEING ENUMERATED. WE NOTICED THAT IN THE PROPOSAL. UH, IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY SAY THE NUMBER OF SITES IN THE 14 POINTS, AND WE'D REALLY APPRECIATE IF THAT WAS ACTUALLY INCLUDED. UM, IN TERMS OF THE, UM, THE DRIVEWAY OR THE ENTRANCE, THERE'S THIS, AGAIN, A REMNANT FROM VDOT THAT COMBINED THE RURAL EVENT FACILITY, UM, COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE WITH THIS CUP. AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE THEM SEPARATED OUT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE PROPOSAL IS FOR A NON-COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE FOR A SMALLER NUMBER OF, UH, SITES. AND WE'D REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, THAT GETS CLARIFIED. UM, AND THEN I ASSUME THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN, BUT I, I FEEL OBLIGATED TO, TO POINT OUT THE THING THAT WE WERE MOST WORRIED ABOUT PERSONALLY WAS FLOOD AND FIRE EVACUATION. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE PEOPLE COME INTO OUR HOME, BUT WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THOSE PLANS ARE GONNA BE, UM, EITHER SO WE COULD HELP OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT WILL BE. UM, PEOPLE LIKE TO HELP. AND THEN, UM, ALSO, UH, GETTING CLARIFICATION ON WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE FOR THE ONSITE OPERATOR AS OPPOSED TO SAYING THERE WILL BE ONE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE ACTUAL EXPECTATIONS FOR THAT PERSON. UM, ON THE, THE SECOND PART, I WON'T GO THROUGH IT TOO MUCH, YOU HAVE IT, BUT ESSENTIALLY THERE'S A NUMBER OF OVERLAPPING ENTITLEMENTS WITH REGARDS TO, UH, THE SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL, THE CAMPGROUND, UH, ONE PROPERTY IS UP FOR CONTRACT FOR SALE. THERE'S, UM, LINES IN THE APPLICATION FOR SUBDIVISIONS, WHICH I THINK NEED TO BE CLARIFIED. AND THEN, UM, ALSO JUST GETTING CLARITY, WHICH IS NOT MY BUSINESS, SO I JUST WANNA BRING IT UP. UH, THE CLEAN AND GREEN USE, I ASSUME THAT THAT WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF ADMINISTRATIVELY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION. SO WE HOPE THAT THIS KIND OF RIGHT SIZES IT, WE HOPE THAT THESE COMMENTS ARE HELPFUL. UM, AND YOU KNOW, THAT SAID, WE, WE THINK 10 IS FINE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL FOR SIGNUPS, MA'AM. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? YES, SIR. WHOOPS. YES, SIR. THIS THING IS SENSITIVE TODAY. UH, MY NAME'S MICHAEL OLMSTEAD. I LIVE IN BENTONVILLE AND I'M JUST, UH, OFF THE CUFF HERE. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, UM, PANHANDLE. PULL THE MIC UP. PAN. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, SO WE LIVE, UH, JUST OFF OF PANHANDLE ON THAT SECTION OF THE ROAD YOU HAD TALKED WITH VDOT MM-HMM . JUST, JUST NOW. UM, AND, UH, I GO UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD ONE, TWO OR THREE TIMES A DAY AND SEE WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC GOES ON THERE. RECENTLY, IT SEEMS THAT TRAFFIC HAS GOTTEN MORE AND MORE PEOPLE THAT DON'T SEEM TO KNOW HOW TO OR NORMALLY KNOW HOW TO DRIVE AND DO THE, UH, MORE RUSTIC ROADS LIKE PANHANDLE. AND SO, UM, BASED ON, UH, THE, THE CAMPGROUND CUP THAT WE'RE GONNA BE, YOU'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING SHORTLY, UH, THE VDOT SEC SECTION ABOUT, UH, THEIR, UM, THE, UH, COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE HAS A PLAN THAT SAYS, UH, 50 VEHICLES PER DAY, PER DAY COMING THAT THAT ENTRANCE. SO THAT HAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC COMING DOWN THAT PANHANDLE WITH, UH, AND PANHANDLE HAS ON THAT SECTION THERE ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF FROM, FROM THE, UH, CAMP CAMPGROUND ACT, UH, ENTRANCE UP TO THE TOP THERE. AND THERE'S FOUR BLIND SPOTS. UH, IT'S THE ROADS, ROADS EITHER WASH, BOARDED OR IT'S MUDDY, DEPENDING IF IT'S NOT RAINING OR IF IT IS RAINING. AND, UH, AND THE V DUCT CREWS DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF, UH, UH, COMING IN AND REGRADING AND PUTTING GRAVEL IN. AND I ALSO WANT TO, UM, THANK YOU AND WE APPRECIATE HOW YOU'RE KEEPING THAT, UH, PANHANDLE ISSUE UP ON THE RADAR WITH RA, UH, WITH VDOT. SO, UH, JUST, UH, ANOTHER DATA POINT TO GIVE YOU TO VDOT THAT, UH, IT'S GONNA, I'VE SEEN SEVERAL, SEVERAL CA UH, ACCIDENTS COMING DOWN THAT, THAT HIGH GRADE MM-HMM . UH, AND WHEN IT'S WHEN THE ROAD'S DRY, BUT IT'S, THERE'S NO LOT OF GRAVEL AND PEOPLE ARE SLIDING ON WHAT LITTLE GRAVEL THERE IS. AND I'VE SEEN A COUPLE ACCIDENTS IN MY TIME, BUT THAT'S ALL I JUST WANNA SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? SECOND CALL, THIRD AND FINAL [00:25:01] CALL. OKAY. WE'LL END THE PUBLIC COMMENT TIME AND MOVE [H.1. Reports – Board Members, County Administrator, County Attorney] ON TO BOARD REPORTS. UM, MR. JAMESON. YEAH. UM, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH MICHAEL WHITLOW, UH, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS, UM, SATURDAY MORNING OF THE TOURISM COMMITTEE, JOINT TOURISM COMMITTEE, AND FIND THAT VERY INSIGHTFUL, VERY EDUCATIONAL, AND, UM, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF MAKE A CONNECTION THERE. AND, UH, HOPE TO CONTINUE THAT RELATIONSHIP AND, UH, KEEP THAT GOING. I WAS APPRECIATED OF THAT. MR. STAN MEYER. UM, I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY GIVE, UM, MY KUDOS TO THE TOWN, UH, AND FOR EVERYONE WHO WAS INVOLVED FROM THE COUNTY TOO, BUT, UH, PARTICULARLY TO MAYOR COCKRELL AND, UH, TO JOE AND TO LIZZIE FOR, UH, THE TREMENDOUS WIN FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY PULLED OFF. UH, GETTING THE BRITISH ROYAL, UH, ROYALTY HERE. UM, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF STORIES SWIRLING AROUND THIS, BUT IT WAS, UM, SOMETHING THAT WAS MONTHS IN THE MAKING AND KEPT UNDER CLOSED SECRET. UH, BUT THEY REALLY WENT AFTER AN OPPORTUNITY AND, AND WON IT IN A, IN A COMPETITION. AND THEN, AND THEN EVERYONE CAME TOGETHER, OUR, OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, COOPERATING WITH THE TOWN AND THE SECRET SERVICE AND, AND BRITISH SECURITY. UM, SO, UH, WHAT A, WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY FOR THE COMMUNITY. UM, AND, UH, I ALSO WANTED TO JUST POINT OUT THE, LIKE THE UNLIKELIHOOD OF, OF FRONT ROW BEING PICKED. UM, IT WASN'T JUST THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT SMALL TOWNS IN VIRGINIA, BUT THEY WERE LOOKING AT AT OTHER STATES AS AS WELL. UM, IT, IT REALLY PUTS US ON, ON THE MAP THAT THE KING OF ENGLAND CAME HERE AND WENT TO DC NEW YORK AND FRONT ROYAL, LIKE FOR SO MANY PEOPLE, THAT'S A HEAD SCRATCHER. AND MANY OF US DIDN'T QUITE BELIEVE IT WHEN WE FIRST WERE INFORMED. A LOT OF PEOPLE, LIKE THE MAYOR THOUGHT IT WAS SPAM OR A, A PHISHING EMAIL OR SOMETHING. UM, BUT, UH, I WANTED TO JUST COMMENT ON MY PERCEPTION ON WHY THEY PICKED HERE. AND WE, WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT, UM, THE SMALL TOWN VIBE AND THE AUTHENTICITY OF THIS AREA AND THE COMMUNITY, UH, IS SO REAL AND, AND PEOPLE ARE SO NICE. AND, AND IT WAS REFRESHING. UM, AND THAT'S ALL TRUE. UM, BUT I THINK IT ALSO TIES INTO, UH, UH, KING CHARLES'S OWN PERSONAL INTERESTS ARE IN THINGS LIKE, UH, AGRICULTURE AND RESTORATIVE AND REGENERATIVE FARMING, ORGANIC FARMING. UM, AND, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FACT THAT HE CAME IN AND WAS INTERESTED IN, IN OUR BEEKEEPING, UM, OR OUR, OUR PIG FARMERS IN OUR BARBECUE, UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO SEE, WANTED TO SEE THE, THE GOATS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT REALLY SPEAKS TO THE AGRI TOURISM OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE IN THIS COMMUNITY. UM, IF IT'S, IF IT'S DRAWING, IF IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE KING OF ENGLAND, I THINK IT, IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR, FOR ANYONE. AND, UH, SO AS WE LOOK AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN THE FUTURE, I JUST WANNA KEEP THAT IN MIND. HE DIDN'T GO TO ASHBURN AND, AND LOOK AT THEIR TOUR, THEIR DATA CENTERS OR ANYTHING LIKE, HE, HE CAME HERE FOR THE, UH, AND THEN THEY WENT OFF AND, AND WENT, YOU KNOW, TO SEE SKYLINE DRIVE AND, AND TO SEE A HORSE, UH, RACE HORSE FACILITY IN THE PLAINS AND SO FORTH. UH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S SPECIAL ABOUT THIS AREA, AND WE WANT TO KEEP THAT, UH, UH, AS WE CHART OUR PATH FORWARD. UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU, MR. CARTER. UH, SAME THING. UM, I THOUGHT THE TOWN DID A VERY GOOD JOB. THEY DID A GREAT JOB KEEPING IT UNDER WRAPS FOR AS LONG AS THEY DID. UM, IT, IT, IT REALLY WAS, UH, WELL ATTENDED. UH, WE GOT A LOT OF GOOD PRESS OUT OF IT, AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION ON WHAT TO DO WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. SO THOSE CON UH, DISCUSSIONS WILL CONTINUE. UM, MENTIONED ABOUT THE AIRPORT, AND I BELIEVE THE MONEY WAS NOT, AND ME HAS BEEN MISSPOKEN, BUT THE MONEY FOR THE AIRPORT'S NOT COMING FROM GENERAL FUND PER SE. IS IT NOT COMING FROM FUND BALANCE? IT'S GOING FROM THE FUND BALANCE. YEAH. AND THEN, UH, THE WARRANT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REPLACE THAT TO A BORROW SENT INFORMATION LATER TIME. RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND PER SE. I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT. UM, AND AGAIN, MAYBE, UH, MAYBE AT OUR NEXT MEETING WE COULD HAVE SOMEBODY GIVE US THE UPDATE, UNLESS I'M NOT ASKING ANYBODY ON THE SPOT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT MAYBE GIVE 'EM A FURTHER UPDATE ON HOW THE AUDIT IS PROCEEDING. AND ONE OTHER THING TOO IS, UH, I WAS AT ANDY GUEST STATE [00:30:01] PARK ON SUNDAY, AND I KNOW WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THE SKYLINE DRIVE AND THOSE THINGS, BUT ANDY GUEST STATE PARK IS REALLY A GEM THAT WE HAVE HERE. AND I, I, I, I'D GONE UP THERE YEARS AND YEARS AGO AND USED TO RIDE A BIKE. I WOULDN'T DRIVE THAT TODAY, BUT ANYWAY, UM, BUT IT, IT'S INTERESTING TOO, I DIDN'T REALIZE IT UNTIL GOING UP THERE AGAIN. I SAW THE OVERLOOKING, IT SAYS COLORS OVERLOOKED. AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY OUR CHAIRMAN CHAIR WOMAN'S FAMILY THAT WAS UP THERE, OR, OR, OR, OR GAVE UP THE LAND, UH, FOR THAT PARK. BUT IT'S REALLY A BEAUTIFUL, UH, UH, PLACE WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTY. UM, SO LET'S SEE THERE. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? OH, AND WHILE I WAS THERE, I DECIDED TO COME BACK PANHANDLE ROAD, SO I WASN'T EXACTLY SURE ABOUT THE ISSUE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LATER. BUT, UH, AGAIN, THAT LOOKED, UH, UH, A GOOD PORTION OF IT IS, UH, PAVED AND THE REST OF IT DID SEEM VERY WELL, VERY WELL MAINTAINED. SO APPRECIATE PDOT AND, AND THAT TOO, AND WE'LL GET TO THAT LATER ON IN THE AGENDA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. UM, APRIL 15TH, AND I COULDN'T REMEMBER IF I DID THIS UPDATE OR NOT, BUT I WAS AT THE, UM, BROADBAND UPDATE AT THE REGIONAL COMMISSION AND I'VE BEEN REASSURED THAT THIS PROJECT WILL, UH, FOR THE MOST PART, THE VADI PART WILL BE DONE DECEMBER 31ST, 2026, BECAUSE THAT'S THE DEADLINE FOR THAT. IT DID GET BROKEN INTO DIFFERENT PARTS. UH, VADI, UM, GRANT, PART BEAD MONEY PART, AND THE BEAD MONEY MAY BE A LITTLE, UH, LONGER, WHICH, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENT, IF YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE, GOVERNMENT COMPLICATES EVERYTHING. SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S A VERY HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHO'S IN VADI AND WHO'S IN THE BEAD SECTION, BUT THEY ARE MOVING ALONG. IF ANYBODY'S BEEN TO, UM, UP THREE 40 TO PAGE COUNTY, THEY'VE REALLY BEEN WORKING HARD THERE. I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN IN HO HOLLER HERE AND NOW THAT THE WEATHER IS STRAIGHTENING OUT, UM, THEIR TIMELINE, UM, TO WORK IN WARREN COUNTY IS PICKING UP. AND I AM LIKE A ROYAL PAIN NOT BEING A ROYAL BECAUSE I KEEP HOING THEM ON THIS. 'CAUSE IT'S SO IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY, UM, FOR MY END OF THE COUNTY BECAUSE WE'RE PRETTY MUCH, UM, A DEAD ZONE FOR CELL SERVICE AND INTERNET IN, IN A LOT OF THE PLACES BECAUSE OF THE MOUNTAIN AND THE, UM, TERRAIN. SO THAT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS AND I DO KEEP ON TOP OF THEM FOR THAT. UH, APRIL 25TH, I JUST WANNA GIVE A A SHOUT OUT. SAMUEL'S LIBRARY HAD THEIR TASTE OF BOOKS AND EVERY YEAR I THINK THEY CAN'T DO BETTER THAN THE YEAR BEFORE, BUT THEY DO, THEY TOP THEIR SELF ALL THE TIME. SO IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN TO ONE OF THOSE, IT'S, UM, IT'S A REALLY FUN NIGHT TO TO EXPERIENCE. UM, ALL THE, IF YOU'RE A VENDOR IN TOWN, UH, OF ANY SORT, FOOD OR OTHERWISE, UM, THEY SET UP DIFFERENT BOOTHS AND YOU BASICALLY GO AROUND AND TASTE YOU. YOU DON'T GO OUT OF THE ROOM HUNGRY, I CAN TELL YOU THAT. 'CAUSE THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY BRING, UH, FROM THEIR RESTAURANTS AND SO FORTH. UM, APRIL 26 WAS LONE PINE DAY ON, UH, MAIN STREET IN THE GAZEBO AREA. AND THEY, AGAIN, THIS YEAR THEY, UM, HAD A LOT MORE VENDORS AND THINGS THERE. IT WAS A REAL EDUCATIONAL, UM, AND FUN EVENT THERE AS WELL. AND THEN I, THAT WAS IN THE MORNING, THEN I WENT TO THE GIRLS SOFTBALL LEAGUE OPENING, WHICH, UM, THAT'S ALWAYS A GREAT EXPERIENCE TO BE THERE. IT'S, UH, LIKE A SEA OF, IT WAS A SEA OF NEON THIS YEAR. THEY GOT NEW UNIFORMS AND IT WAS PINK AND PURPLE AND ORANGE AND, UM, EVERYTHING FROM A 3-YEAR-OLD TO A, UH, 18-YEAR-OLD WERE THERE. AND IT'S, THE FIELD WAS FULL OF YOUNG LADIES THAT LOVE TO PLAY SOFTBALL. SO IT'S A GREAT EVENT TO BE THERE. AND, UM, HAD A MEETING WITH THE, WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, UH, OF THE SCHOOL BOARD WHERE THE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR OF EACH, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCHOOL BOARD GETS TOGETHER WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. WE DON'T DO IT OFTEN ENOUGH, BUT WE DO IT PERIODICALLY. SO I MET WITH THEM ON THE 27TH, ON THE 29TH. UM, SKYLAND HIGH SCHOOL, WARREN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL, FFAS COMBINED THIS YEAR TO HAVE ONE BANQUET TO CELEBRATE 10 YEARS OF FFA BEING ACTIVE AGAIN IN WARREN COUNTY. THOSE, THOSE [00:35:01] STUDENTS ARE JUST AMAZING. AND SO ARE THEIR SPONSORS AND TEACHERS THAT WORK WITH THEM. I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT, UM, WHAT WONDERFUL THINGS THEY'RE DOING, THE LEADERSHIP AND THE RESPONSIBILITY AND BRINGING AND KEEPING AG IN WARREN COUNTY ALIVE. SO WANTED TO GIVE KUDOS OUT TO THEM. UM, THE ROYAL EVENT, I WAS ONE OF THOSE THAT WOULD NOT, I DIDN'T OPEN MY EMAIL INVITATION BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS EITHER TODD JONES DOING THAT FISHING THING WHERE IT'S A GOT YOU OR SOME OTHER THING THAT MIGHT PUT A VIRUS OUT, AND I WASN'T GONNA BE THE ONE TO CAUSE THAT PROBLEM IN THE COUNTY. UM, SO I ALMOST MISSED IT, UH, BY NOT TRUSTING AN EMAIL, BUT WHAT AN EVENT IT WAS. AND I DO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING. I'VE, I'VE, I'VE SEEN SOME CRITICISM AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S FRUSTRATING TO STAY IN SEVEN HOURS AND SEE A HAND WAVING IN THE WINDOW, BUT WHAT AN EXPERIENCE TO BE THAT CLOSE EVEN FOR THAT. AND I WAS IN THE VIP SECTION AND HONESTLY, I DIDN'T THINK I WAS GONNA GET WITHIN ARM'S REACH OF HIM BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MANY SECURITY AND NEWS PEOPLE. AND, UM, BUT I WAS, THANK GOODNESS I DID GET TO SHAKE HIS HAND, UH, BOTH HE AND THE QUEEN. AND, UM, I HAD A BASEBALL CAP THAT I HAD ASKED IF I COULD GIVE TO HIM AND WAS GIVEN PERMISSION. AND AS I WAS STANDING WAITING FOR HIM TO WALK UP SECRET SERVICE SAID, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT HANDING HIM THAT HAT. PUT A LITTLE FEAR INTO ME TO SAY THE LEAST. BUT YEAH, HE GOT HIS CAP. SO, UM, HE, I SAID, I'VE GOT SOMETHING FOR YOU, BUT I'M NOT SURE I'M ALLOWED. AND HE LOOKED AT IT AND HE GOES, OH, I LIKE THAT. I'LL TAKE THAT. SO HE GOT THAT AND HE GOT ONE OF OUR WARREN COUNTY CHALLENGE COINS TO GO WITH IT. SO DON'T KNOW IF HE'LL EVER WEAR IT, BUT HE'S GOT IT. UH, IT WAS A TWO 50 COMMEMORATIVE CAP THAT MY HUSBAND ORDERED. UM, I HAD TO ONE UP MR. CARTER ON THE FLOWERS. HE GAVE . HE DID MORE RESEARCH THAN I DID AND FOUND OUT WHAT THE QUEEN'S FAVORITE FLOWER WAS. UM, BUT ANYWAY, WHAT A WONDERFUL EVENT. AND I DO LIKE YOUR IDEA OF SOME KIND OF A YEARLY REMEMBRANCE OF THAT. SO LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL THE POWERS THAT BE TO SEE HOW WE CAN DO THAT. UM, JUST WANTED ON, UH, MAY 1ST, I WENT THE FIRST FRIDAY OF EVERY MONTH. IF YOU DON'T KNOW, UM, AT ON QUEUE AT 10 O'CLOCK, NO, NINE, NINE O'CLOCK TO 10. NINE TO 10 IS WHAT THEY CALL COFFEE AND CONVERSATION. AND UH, ROB MCDOUGALL MODERATES THAT AND USUALLY HAS A WONDERFUL SPEAKER. DR. MARTIN HAS SPOKE THERE, THE MAYOR SPOKE THERE. UM, PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS. AND IT'S JUST WHAT IT SAYS. COFFEE AND CONVERSATION ON MAY 1ST. UH, JEANIE ANN CLARK, WHO IS VICE PRESIDENT AT LAUREL RIDGE COLLEGE, COLLEGE OF UM, WORKFORCE. AND IF YOU CAN EVER GO TO HEAR JEANIE ANN SPEAK ABOUT WORKFORCE, YOU NEED TO GO, SHE IS QUITE AMAZING. AND THE THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND AVAILABLE FOR FREE THROUGH WORKFORCE, UM, AND LAUREL RIDGE IS JUST AMAZING. SO IF YOU HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS OR WANNA START A SMALL BUSINESS, YOU NEED TO CONNECT WITH, UM, JEANNIE AND, AND WORKFORCE OVER THERE. UM, ALSO WANTED JUST TO SAY THIS IS NATIONAL TEACHER APPRECIATION WEEK, SO IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT, YOU MIGHT WANNA SEND AN APPLE OR SOMETHING TO YOUR KIDS' TEACHER. IT'S ALSO NATIONAL SCHOOL NURSE WEEK, MAY 6TH THROUGH THE 12TH. UM, I UNDERSTAND TODAY, OR THIS WEEK IS NATIONAL COURT CLERKS WEEK. SO WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF, UH, ANGIE MOORE AND ALL THE OTHER CLERKS THAT ARE AT THE COURTHOUSE HERE. UM, LET'S SEE, NATIONAL POLICE WEEK, WHICH RECOGNIZES FALLEN OFFICERS, UM, IS MAY 11TH THROUGH THE 17TH. AND AS PART OF THAT, I'M NOT SURE IF WE'VE EVER DONE IT. I DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION. UM, ALL THE FLAGS ON GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO FLY AT HALF STAFF DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. AND, UM, LET'S SEE, MAY 9TH, JUST A SHOUT OUT WHAT'S COMING, A WINGS AND WILL EVENT AT THE AIRPORT IN MR. BERRY. I DON'T REMEMBER THE TIME FOR THAT, BUT IT'S LIKE, WHAT, EIGHT OR NINE TO SOMETHING EARLY AND PUBLIC? NINE O'CLOCK. NINE TO ONE, NINE TO ONE. UH, MR. BARRY ALWAYS HAS, HE'S FIXING SAUSAGE AND PANCAKES, I BELIEVE YOU USUALLY DO. HE DOES A GREAT JOB AT THAT. IT'S A REALLY NEAT EVENT. SO, UM, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO DO, ALSO YOU CAN GO OUT THERE [00:40:01] AND THEN GO TO FUN DAY SPONSORED BY CNC ICE CREAM. I THINK THAT'S THE SAME DAY. AND I'M NOT REAL SURE OF THE TIME OF THAT EITHER, BUT IF YOU LOOK ON FACEBOOK, I'M SURE YOU CAN FIND IT. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S MORE LIKE 10 TO SIX. SO THE, THE GOOD THING IS THEY OVERLAP A LITTLE, BUT YOU CAN DO BOTH IF YOU PLAN IT RIGHT? YEAH. OH, ABSOLUTELY. YOU CAN DO BOTH. UM, AND JUST A REMINDER, MOTHER'S DAY IS ON SUNDAY, THEN YOU KNOW WHAT A SIN IT IS TO FORGET YOUR MOM'S ON SUNDAY. SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT, BUT, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE MOMS THAT ARE IN THE ROOM AND THAT WORK HERE. SO I THINK I'M DONE. MR. DR. MARTIN, I'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY. AND I HAVE NO REPORT, MR. HAM. I ALSO HAVE NO REPORT. ALL RIGHTY. I'M ALWAYS THE LONG-WINDED ONE ON THE REPORT, SO, ALL RIGHT. [I. Approval of Minutes] APPROVAL OF MINUTES. APRIL 7TH, UH, REGULAR MEETING AND APRIL 14TH. SPECIAL MEETING. AND ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS, CORRECTIONS, DELETIONS ON EITHER OF THOSE TWO? HEARING NONE. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE APRIL 7TH AND APRIL 14TH OR DO WE NEED TO DO THEM SEPARATELY? I'LL JUST MOVE TO APPROVE BOTH. LET'S GO FOR IT. IS THERE A SECOND? MADAM? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE TO APPROVE BOTH SETS MINUTES AS PRESENTED. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ROLL CALL MR. HENDERSON. MR. STAN MEYER? AYE. MR. CARTER? AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. DR. JAMISON? AYE. ALL [J. Consent Agenda] RIGHT. CONSENT AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS TO PULL FOR DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM SIX, PLEASE. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO PHONE NUMBER SEVEN. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER? WE'RE ALL GOOD EXCEPT FOR SIX AND SEVEN. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SIX AND SEVEN? SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. WE'LL CALL MR. HENDERSON. DR. JAMISON AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. MR. CARTER? AYE. MR. STAN MEYER? AYE. OKAY. [J.6. Approval of Job Description and Grade Placement — Director of Economic Development - Kayla Darr, Human Resources Manager] NUMBER SIX. MR. STAN MEYER? UH, YEAH. THE REASON I PULLED THIS IS, UH, TO MAKE, UH, A CORRECTION TO THE MOTION THAT IS IN THE AGENDA PACKET. UM, I HAVE A REVISED MOTION THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE. YES, SIR. UH, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE UPDATED JOB DESCRIPTION FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR POSITION AND ASSIGN THE POSITION TO GRADE 26 ON THE COUNTY'S SALARY SCALE WITH FURTHER, UM, LEEWAY THAT THE SALARY MAY BE, UH, UP TO 10% ADDITIONAL. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ROLL CALL. MR. HENDERSON. MR. STAN MEYER. AYE. MR. CARTER? AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. DR. JAMISON? AYE. MR. CARTER [J.7. Approval of Job Description and Grade Placement — Tourism Manager - Kayla Darr, Human Resources Manager] NUMBER SEVEN? YEAH. UM, AGAIN, THAT WAS FOR JOB DESCRIPTION AND GREAT PLACEMENT FOR A TOURISM MANAGER. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE GOING THROUGH, WELL, SIX OR SEVEN YEARS, THERE'S BEEN DIFFERENT ALLITERATIONS ON, UH, THE TOURIST I THINK IS AN IMPORTANT, UH, COMPONENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE US MAYBE TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN MR. HENRY GETS BACK AS WELL. AND I REALIZE TOO THAT THIS POSITION WOULD BE, UM, WOULD NOT BE DIRECTLY WITH THIS BOARD DURING THE HIRING. IT'D BE UP TO THE ADMINISTRATOR. UM, AND I THINK THE TOWN'S DOING A VERY GOOD JOB AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY ON TOUR TOURISM. BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE US TO DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT IF WE REALLY NEED A FULL-TIME TOURISM DIRECTOR OR IF WE COULD WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TOWN. I THINK WE NEED SOMEBODY, BUT I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE TO GO TO QUITE THAT LIMIT. AND I JUST THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THIS BOARD SHOULD TALK ABOUT. I DON'T THINK IT REALLY IMPACTS WHAT WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS SETTING THE WAGE SCALE, BUT I THINK BEFORE A FULL-TIME DIRECTOR IS HIRED, WE SHOULD HAVE A DISCUSSION REGARDING ON, UH, WHAT THE BEST WAY, AND I GUESS PART OF MY THOUGHTS IS WHAT IF WE GOT SOMEBODY THAT WASN'T A FULL FULL DIRECTOR, BUT MAYBE A STEP DOWN THERE WOULD BE SOME SAVINGS AND SALARY. [00:45:01] AND I'M JUST THINKING THAT SOME OF THOSE SA UH, SAVINGS COULD GO MORE FOR ADVERTISING PROMOTION AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THE OTHER THING TOO IS MY UNDERSTANDING THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY SITTING THERE IN THE FUND BALANCE THAT IS EARMARKED AND HAS TO GO TOWARDS TOURISM. AND I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE TOO, AND I DID CHECK WITH SOME, UH, STAFF TOO AS FAR AS HOW MUCH ARE WE ACTUALLY GETTING ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TOO THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT FROM THE STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE, WE EXPECT ANNUALLY TO GET FROM TOURISM AND HOPEFULLY IF A JOB IS DONE WELL THOSE FIGURES WILL GO UP AS, UH, AS WELL. SO I'M OKAY WITH GOING AHEAD AND APPROVING THE, UH, THE, UH, THE POSITION PAY SCALE. I DO NOT HAVE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME THE MOTION, IF SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD CARE TO MAKE THAT, I WOULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT IT. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS ON MY THOUGHTS? UH, THERE'S A COMMENT TO TACK ON. UM, I HAVE THE OPINION THAT TOURISM IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THING. MM-HMM . UM, AND THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS A LARGER UMBRELLA UNDER WHICH TOURISM IS A, IS A THING. AND I UNDERSTAND, I DO FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE, THERE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS AND THAT TOURISM HAS ITS OWN FUNDING AND THAT CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY HAS TO BE SPENT ON TOURISM. NEVERTHELESS, UM, AS WE EMBARK AND ARE IN THE PROCESS OF, OF, UH, RECRUITING A DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I THINK THAT INDIVIDUAL'S GONNA HAVE, UH, A LARGE IMPACT ON ASSESSING WHAT OUR STRATEGY IS AND HOW THAT ACTIVITY AND HOW TOURISM FITS INTO THAT. AND, UH, I JUST, I CONCUR COMPLETELY THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION OVER THAT. UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT, BASED ON SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT NOT KNOWING WHERE THAT JOB DESCRIPTION'S GONNA END UP BASED ON THAT DYNAMIC OF, OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR SORT OF BEING AT, AT THE HEAD OF A STRATEGIC PLAN IS GOING TO INVOLVE TOURISM AS AN, AS AN ELEMENT OF THAT, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S TIME TO SET A PAY GRADE. I, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE THAT'S RIGHT. BUT, BUT OTHER THAN THAT I CONCUR WE NEED TO HAVE THAT A BROADER DISCUSSION, RIGHT? LIKE I SAID, TOURISM IS JUST ONE COMPONENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, COMMERCIAL INDUSTRY, THE WHOLE THING. AND AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MAY NEED TO TOUCH BASE AND, AND AND, AND TALK TO IF THAT FALLS KIND OF UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF OVERALL ECONOMIC. AND THERE AGAIN, THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT TOO. SO, OKAY. AGAIN, I'M OKAY WITH WITH DOING THIS, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS AS FAR AS HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED AND WHAT'S GONNA GET US, GOD, I DON'T LIKE TO SAY THIS, GET US THE BIGGEST BAG FOR THE BUCK WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT. AND AGAIN, I, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS RECENTLY. I'M NOT AS WELL ATTUNED AS SOME OF YOU ALL ARE AND, AND MAYBE SOME OF THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED, BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE, BEFORE WE GO FORWARD WITH HIRING SOMEBODY, AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT OUR HIRE THAT WE HAVE A, A DISCUSSION IN A WORK SESSION MM-HMM . AND YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE LIKE ME, BUT I'M ALWAYS UP FOR ANOTHER MEETING. UH, BUT UH, BUT THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO CARE TO MAKE THAT MOTION, 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, IF I COULD ADD TO THE CONVERSATION, UM, THE TOWN MANAGER, MYSELF AND TOURISM DIRECTOR AND THE TOWN, OUR MEETING, UM, TO COME UP SOME OPTIONS PRIOR TO YOUR JOINT MEETING WITH THE TOWN SCHEDULED FOR EARLY JUNE. AND YOU KNOW, JUST AS PART OF THIS CONVERSATION, YOU'RE RIGHT, FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, AND THIS IS MY SECOND TERM THAT UM, A LOT OF TIME WAS SPENT TRYING TO DO TOURISM, IT FAILED. UM, WE STARTED THIS UP A YEAR AGO AND IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AND HAS GROWN. UM, WE HAD SEVERAL EVENTS ONE, UH, RECENTLY AND IT WAS, IT WENT OVER VERY WELL. WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE PLANNED AND SEVERAL MORE, UM, AROUND THE TWO 50. AND THAT'S NOT JUST FOR THIS SUMMER, IT'S GOING TO BE THE TWO 50 DOESN'T STOP THIS YEAR. UH, VIRGINIA HAS, I FORGET, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS OUT OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES AND THINGS, UM, THAT ARE GONNA BE A PART OF THIS, JUST THIS. AND WITH THE, THE ROYALS COMING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE [00:50:01] TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO BUILD ON. AND UM, THE, I THINK WITH THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAS LAID DORMANT AS WELL, THAT IS GONNA BE AN OVERWHELMING JOB JUST GETTING THAT GOING WITHOUT THROWING IN TOURISM INTO THE MIX. SO AT SOME POINT DOWN THE ROAD, I CAN SEE WE'RE MAYBE BLENDING, BUT RIGHT NOW I THINK THEY PRETTY MUCH HAVE TO STAY SEPARATE. SO BOTH CAN BE SUCCESSFUL AND NOT OVERWHELMED BY TRYING TO COOK TOO MUCH ON ONE BURNER, SO TO SAY. AND, UM, I THINK THIS HOWEVER THIS PLAYS OUT BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S NOT, WE APPROVE THE JOB DESCRIPTION, BUT IT IS NOT OUR, UM, OUR HIRE. BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE THOSE CONTINUING CONVERSATIONS AND BY APPROVING THIS IT SETS IT, IT KEEPS THAT MOMENTUM GOING INSTEAD OF HAVING TO COME BACK AND OKAY. REGROUP AND GET US ALL THROUGH THIS. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ON IT AS WELL BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW, WE NEED TO GET SOME OF THIS BURDEN OFF OF RUNNING GOVERNMENT AND PROVIDING SERVICES OFF THE BACK. SO THE REAL ESTATE AND I'M, I DON'T SAY THAT THIS IS THE END ALL BE ALL OF DOING THAT, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY, EVEN IF IT HELPS A LITTLE BIT, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF HELP AND WE NEED TO DO OUR BEST TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM, UH, APPROVING THIS TONIGHT. LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF LET'S EXPLORE ALL POTENTIAL ASPECTS AND MM-HMM . AND, AND GET THE BEST WE CAN. ABSOLUTELY. AND THE ONLY OTHER THING TOO IS I FEEL REALLY KIND OF BAD, UH, HAVING MS. DAR COME UP. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING SINCE YOU'VE BEEN UP HERE? I DID JUST WANNA SAY THAT THIS POSITION, THE TOURISM IS A MANAGER POSITION, NOT A DIRECTOR POSITION. NO. SO IT WOULDN'T BE A DEPARTMENT HEAD LEVEL, IT WOULD JUST BE A MANAGER POSITION. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. NO ANY, ANYTHING ELSE? AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE, I'VE GOT THE MOTIONS OR ANYBODY THAT NEEDS IT, THAT'S ON HERE. ALRIGHT, YOUR HONOR, I AGREE FOR THAT. OKAY. UM, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE UPDATED JOB DESCRIPTION FOR THE TOURISM MANAGER POSITION AND TO ASSIGN THE POSITION TO GRADE 20 ON THE COUNTY SALARY SCALE. THANK YOU MA'AM. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? I'M SORRY, DID YOU SECOND? SECOND. ROLL CALL MR. HENDERSON. DR. JAMESON. AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. MR. CUTTER? AYE. MR. STAN MEYER? AYE. ALL RIGHT. [K.1. CUP2025-02-02 - Campground - 1406, 1408, 1090, and (0) Panhandle Road, Identified on Tax Map 35 as Lots 5-1, 5-2, 5-3, 5B-1, and 10A - A request for a conditional use permit for a campground. The properties are located at 1406 Panhandle Road, (0) Panhandle Road, (0) Panhandle Road, 1408 Panhandle Road and 1090 Panhandle Road and are identified on tax map 35 as lots 5-1, 5-2, 5-3, 5B-1, and 10A. The properties are zoned Agricultural (A) and are located in the South River Magisterial District. - Kelly Wahl , Interim Planning Director] AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS CUP 2025 DASH OH TWO DASH OH TWO, THE CAMPGROUND 14 0 6, 14 0 8 10 90 AND ZERO OF PANHANDLE ROAD AND IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 35 IS LOTS 5 1 5 2 5 3, 5 B ONE, AND 10 A ANDS REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A CAMPGROUND. AND THE PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED AT 1406 PANHANDLE ROAD ZERO PANHANDLE ROAD, UM, ZERO PANHANDLE ROAD, 1408 PANHANDLE ROAD 10 A AND THAT AREA IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL AND LOCATED IN THE SOUTH RIVER DISTRICT MAG DISTRICT. MRS. WALL TO PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THIS ITEM ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 9TH. PLANNING COMMISSION WAS CONCERNED WITH THE APPLICANT'S UNDER UNDERSTANDING OF VDO T'S COMMENTS REGARDING REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ENTRANCE. UM, MR. ISH'S MOTION TO TABLE THE APPLICATION TO THE MAY 14TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FAST FORWARD TO MAY 14TH, 2025. IT WAS BROUGHT BACK BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE APPLICANT'S ENTRANCE PLAN SUBMITTED TO VDOT AND WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE RECOMMENDED CONDITION NUMBER 15, WHICH WAS TO GRANT A WAIVER TO ALLOW FOR A MAXIMUM OF 200 CAMPING UNITS IN LIEU OF THE 100. THEN WE FAST FORWARD TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PUBLIC HEARING THAT WAS HELD ON JULY 1ST, 2025. AFTER CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE BOARD DISCUSSED PROPOSED CONDITIONS LIMITING THE DEVELOPMENT TO SIX PRIMITIVE TENT SITES AND FOUR RV UNITS WITH ANY FUTURE EXPANSION REQUIRING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT MODIFICATION AND ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARINGS. CONCERNS WERE NOTED REGARDING SITE SECURITY, EMERGENCY ACCESS, UH, FLOODING RESILIENCE AND MANAGEMENT PRACTICES. FOLLOWING DISCUSSION, THE BOARD VOTED TO TABLE THE REQUEST TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TIME TO ADDRESS OUTSTANDING CONCERNS. MR. AYE HAS SINCE THEN REVISITED HIS ENTIRE APPROACH. UM, HE IS REQUESTING 10 CAMPING SITES, SIX OF WHICH ARE GRAVEL AREA PADS FOR TENTS, TWO GLAMPING PODS, AND TWO PRIVATELY OWNED RVS. THERE WILL BE NO [00:55:01] PUBLICLY AVAILABLE RVS COMING AND GOING FROM THE PROPERTY. THE TWO RVS THAT WILL BE ON PREMISES ARE OWNED BY HIM AND HIS WIFE. THEY'LL BE LICENSED AND REGISTERED TO THE THROUGH THE DMV. AM I GOOD? HI, I'M CARL. I I OWN THE PROPERTY THAT YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT UP THERE. THANKS FOR HAVING ME BACK. UM, DON'T ALWAYS LIKE TO COME OUT HERE FOR THIS, BUT I LOVE TO COME OUT TO BENTONVILLE. MY WIFE AND I REALLY ENJOY COMING OUT HERE, SO IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE TO HAVE PROPERTY. I WANNA TO TELL YOU I MISS MATT AND CHASE QUITE A BIT. THEY BOTH KINDA LEFT THE SAME TIME, BUT KUDOS TO KELLY WALL. SHE'S REALLY PICKED UP AND I KNOW SHE'S FEEDING FROM THE FIRE HOSE. I HOPE WE CAN GET HER SOME HELP BECAUSE SHE'S DOING A GREAT JOB. UM, I WANT TO REITERATE IT ONE, ONE MORE THING BEFORE ON MY NEXT SLIDE UP IS THAT SOME OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAD TODAY IN TERMS OF LINE OF SIGHT ON PANHANDLE ROAD, I DID THAT AS PART OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE, UH, UH, THE, UM, RULE EVENTS FACILITY. UM, WE DID THAT WITH CONJUNCTION WITH VDOT, BUT WE PAID FOR IT. AND I WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT I HIRE LOCAL, THE PEOPLE WHO DID IT, PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN OUT THERE TO SURVEY, ET CETERA. ALL LOCAL PEOPLE OUT HERE IN THE SHENANDOAH VALLEY, NOT BRINGING PEOPLE FROM ANYWHERE ELSE. MY NEXT SLIDE LOOKS LIKE THIS. THIS GOES BACK TO JULY 1ST. I'LL REMIND EVERYBODY THAT A LOT OF THE INFORMATION, SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL SAY THIS IS AM AMBIGU AMBI, AMBIGU AMBIGUOUS. I MIGHT HAVE A PROBLEM UNDERSTANDING. UH, THE TRANSCRIPTS ARE OUT THERE, THE VIDEO'S OUT THERE. SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP LAST TIME. SO, UH, WE ASKED FOR 10. THE CAMPSITE REQUEST THAT I STARTED OUT WITH, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN IN THE CODE IS BETWEEN FIVE AND 200. SO WE HAD ENOUGH ROOM FOR 200. THAT'S HOW I WAS ADVISED AT THE TIME. I GOT BETTER ADVICE SINCE THEN. I CAN'T AFFORD TO DO 200. WE CAN AFFORD TO DO 10, SO WE'RE ASKING FOR 10 NO MORE. UM, YOU ASKED ABOUT THE ENTRANCE, MS CU IT WILL BE, UM, ASPHALT AT ONE POINT. IT'S A 30 BY 30 BOBBY BOY FROM BDOT. UH, PUT THAT TOGETHER WHEN I FIRST APPLIED FOR THAT WAY BACK WHEN. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CAMPGROUND. UM, IT, THAT'S WHERE THE ENTER BUT SEPARATE CUP, SEPARATE RULE EVENTS FACILITY THAT HE PUT TOGETHER AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS. WE HAD THAT ENGINEER HIRED AN ENGINEER FOR THAT. HAD JOE JOHNSON OUT THERE, THE ENGINEER CAME OUT TO THE SITE, OUR PLANS AGREED TO. SHE HAS A COPY OF IT AND THEY'VE ALREADY BLESSED IT. THE THIRD THING THAT CAME UP WAS RESTROOM FACILITIES. AGAIN, I'M NOT SMARTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE'S ROOM, BUT BECAUSE OF GOING THROUGH THIS, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH AND IF YOU HAVE 15 CAMPSITES OR LESS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO SINKS, TWO COMMODES AND TWO SHOWERS. SO THIS, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SO WE'LL HAVE 10, SO WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE TWO. IT'LL BE A BATHHOUSE BASICALLY UP WITH, WITH A WELL, THE FLOODING CONCERNS. EVERYTHING IS, I'M NOT QUITE SURE, UH, I KNOW THAT QUESTION CAME UP, BUT THE RVS ARE ON TRAILERS, THEY COME, THEY GET PULLED OUT WITH AN F-150 IF WE ARE GONNA HAVE RAIN. THE OTHER ONES ARE HASTY OR PRIMITIVE CLAMPING PODS ARE OFF THE GROUND. SO, UM, THERE'S REALLY NOT A FLOODING ISSUE FROM WHERE I'M, WHERE I'M SITTING AS FAR AS ANYBODY BEING DANGER. UH, THE ONSITE PRESENCE, WE DO HAVE A FULL-TIME PERSON OUT THERE. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC RECENTLY. , WE REDUCED THE TRAFFIC 'CAUSE I HAVE SOMEBODY OUT IN ONE OF THE RENTAL PROPERTIES. SO HE'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE. AND, UH, HE IS THE ONSITE PRESENCE THAT WILL TAKE, UH, ISSUES OR PROBLEMS IF THEY'RE AT THE, AT THE CAMPGROUND. UM, INCREASED TRAFFIC, UH, VDOT DID THE STUDY. I HAD TO GO TO THEM AND GET PERMISSION. IT'S A LOW, UH, VOLUME COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE THAT THEY TOLD ME I COULD PUT IN FOR 50 CARS TO BE PUT INTO A DESIGNATED PARKING SPOT. SO YOU COME IN, PUT YOUR CAR THERE, YOU GET OUT, TAKE YOUR BACKPACK, PUT YOUR TENT UP OR WALK DOWN TO THE, UH, THE TINY HOME, IF YOU WILL, ON ON TRAILER, WHICH IS TECHNICALLY AN RV, BUT IT'S ON, ON A TRAILER, AGAIN, OWNED BY MY WIFE AND I. NOBODY CAN PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL UP AND SAY, HEY, I'M GONNA BRING MY RV. NO, YOU'RE NOT. YOU CAN'T EVEN BRING THE LITTLE HALF MOON THAT YOU HOOK ON THE BACK OF YOUR PICKUP TRUCK THAT CAN'T COME DOWN THERE EITHER. UM, THE LAST THING THAT BUSH BROUGHT UP ON JULY 1ST WAS THE TRASH REMOVAL. UH, AGAIN, MY CLEANING TEAMS ARE ALL LOCAL. UM, ONE OF THEM ACTUALLY WORKS AT THE PARK ACROSS STREET. SO SHE, I WENT TO HER AND SAID, WHAT DO YOU DO? SHE SAID, WE PUT THESE TRASH GOES OUT. AND AS PART OF CLEANING, UH, GOING DOWN THERE AGAIN, HAVING A PRESENCE ON THE RIVER, WE WILL MAKE SURE IT GETS TAKEN OUT AND, AND TAKEN CARE OF. UH, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE'VE, WE'VE NOW LOCKED DOWN THE AREA DOWN THERE. THERE'S GATES AND EVERYTHING. I MEAN, WE HAVE THREE OR FOUR ENTRYWAYS THAT ARE ALL LOCKED UP SO PEOPLE JUST CAN'T GO DOWN THERE AND MESS AROUND JUST BECAUSE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, WE DISCUSSED WITH YOU ALL THAT WE, WE HAD A HARD TIME WHEN WE FIRST GOT HERE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT I KNOW NOW WE HAVE GAME CAMERAS EVERYWHERE. SO WE'RE WATCHING PEOPLE MAKING SURE THAT IT'S SECURE. UM, I HAVE ALL THE PROPER LICENSES. SIGNED OFF DEQ CORPS OF ENGINEER GONNA DISTURB, DISTURB LESSON 10,000 SQUARE FEET ON THE ENTRANCE. SO WE WE'RE READY TO GO. AND THIS IS THIS NEXT SLIDE. JUST SO THIS SLIDE HAS NEVER CHANGED SINCE DAY ONE. THIS IS HOW WE SHOWED IT. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY. I KNOW KELLY JUST READ IT OFF WHAT THE, WHAT THE SITES WERE, BUT THOSE ALL ARE CONSIDERED PART OF THE CAMPGROUND, UM, REGULATION. THAT BLUE CIRCLE IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING [01:00:01] ABOUT IN THE AREA. THAT WAS THE ENTRANCE WILL BE THE RED BOX OF THE PARKING AREA FOR 50 CARS NO MORE, AGAIN, ACCORDING TO VDOT. AND THEN THAT YELLOW ARROW'S BEEN THERE SINCE DAY ONE. AND WHERE THE, UH, CAMP RECITE WOULD BE. I CAN LEAVE THAT UP, BUT THAT'S BASICALLY, I HAVE ONE MORE SLIDE, BUT IT'S JUST A COUPLE QUOTES ABOUT WHAT MR. STAN MEYER'S, AGRI AGRITOURISM, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT WAS FROM GOVERNOR NORTHAM AND GOVERNOR YOKO PREVIOUSLY, WHAT THEY THOUGHT ABOUT AGRI AGRITOURISM AND I, SO I THINK I ANSWERED THE ISSUES THAT WERE OUTSTANDING FROM THE JULY 1ST MEETING, AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. MA'AM, SIR, ONE, ONE QUESTION OR SUGGESTION, IF YOU GO BACK TO YOUR, UM, YOUR SITE PLAN WHERE THE RED IS, I BELIEVE, UM, THE LADY THAT SPOKE EARLIER, THAT'S HER HOME ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TREE LINE THERE, AND JUST BECAUSE IT'S FAIRLY CLOSE, IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU COULD KIND OF PUT A MORE DENSE AREA OF TO BLOCK SO THAT THEY DON'T GET SO MUCH OF THE SOUND AND STUFF OF PEOPLE OPENING AND CLOSING DOORS AND THAT KIND OF THING? AND I GOTTA LOOK AT WHEN THAT PICTURE'S TAKEN, MA'AM, BUT FRANKLY, THE HOME THEY'RE SPEAKING OF IS HERS. MM-HMM . BUT BETWEEN THE HOME, BETWEEN THAT RED BOX AND THE HOME IS A STRIP OF LAND THAT BELONGS TO THE GENTLEMAN ACROSS THE STREET. RIGHT. IT'S ALSO, SO THAT'S, WELL, I MEAN ON YOUR SIDE, NOT HIS SIDE. NO, BUT I'M SAYING THERE'S NOT A, HER HOUSE IS NOT UP AGAINST MY PROPERTY. NO. I KNOW THERE'S A WIDE PIECE OF LAND THERE THAT PEOPLE GO DOWN AND ACCESS THE RIVER. I THINK THE GENTLEMAN ACROSS THE STREET DOES IT THERE, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO IS, IF YOU GO DOWN THERE TODAY, AGAIN, I DON'T REMEMBER I TOOK THAT PICTURE. IT'S THICK TREES. WERE UP PLENTY OF WOODS. UM, AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO, TO MAKE, I'M HAPPY TO SHOW YOU PHYSICALLY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME OUT. OH, I'M, I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT. RIGHT. BUT I, WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS, I, I, I THINK IF YOU WERE TO STAND THERE TODAY, YOU'D GO, I, I CAN'T FROM INSIDE WHERE THAT RED BOX REALLY IS ON THE PROPERTY AS OPPOSED TO A POWERPOINT SLIDE, I CAN'T SEE HER HOME BECAUSE ON THE, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT STRIP OF LAND BETWEEN US, THERE'S ALSO SOME CHRISTMAS TREES OR PINE TREES. SO, WELL, I WAS JUST THINKING, I CAN SEE HER HOME FROM MY, MY, MY HOUSE UP TOP WHERE THAT ONE IS. I CAN SEE HER HOME. YEAH. I CAN'T SEE IT DOWN THERE. I'M, I'M JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW, FUTURE TREES DIE OUT AND SO FORTH. IT JUST TO BEING A CONSIDERATE NEIGHBOR, SINCE IT IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT IN THAT REMOTE AND AREA TO HAVE A PARKING LOT THAT CLOSE TO YOUR HOME, I, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING IS IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME KIND OF A BORDER THERE TO REDUCE THAT, YOU KNOW, SOUND TRAVEL AND SO FORTH. JUST MY THOUGHT, LOOKING AT IT AND KNOWING THE AREA, I, I, I THINK THAT WHEN WE, IF WE HAD A CHANCE TO PHYSICALLY WALK IT, YOU SEE THE RED BOXES, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BUMPING UP INTO THE TREES. IT'S NOT, IT JUST BIG TATTLE PEN AREA OUT THERE. THERE'S A BACK FENCE THERE AS WELL. UH, IT'S NOT A FENCE REALLY. IT'S A POLE FENCE WITH, UH, SO CATTLE COULDN'T GET OUT IN THE BACK THERE. NOW MY FAMILY RAN CATTLE ON THAT FOR ABOUT 50 YEARS, SO YEAH, I'M, I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT. I'M JUST A LITTLE LIMITED WITH POWER IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. YEAH. UM, ACTUALLY THE PIECE OF PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE WAS PART OF THE, THE FARM THEY WERE, UH, REFERRING TO EARLIER. UM, THANK YOU. THAT WAS ONE QUESTION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. I? YEAH, JUST A QUICK ONE. UH, FOR THE 10 CAMPING SITES AND THEN THE, UH, THE GLAMPING PODS AS WELL AS THE TWO TINY HOMES ON WHEELS ARE THOSE PODS AND THE TINY HOMES, ARE THEY PART OF THE 10 OR ARE THEY IN ADDITION TO THE 10, YOU KNOW, 23 YEARS OF MILITARY REGULATION AFTER REGULATION? IT'S, IT GETS TOUGH TO READ, BUT I HAD TO REALLY READ THE, THE, THE CAMPGROUND PERMIT. MM-HMM . LANGUAGE. MM-HMM . THE DEFINITIONS ARE VERY CLEAR AND THEY'RE REALLY BROAD, SO PRIMITIVE, EVERYBODY WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY OUT THERE RUBBING STICKS TOGETHER TO THEY, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING. THAT'S THE TENT CAMPER. MM-HMM . THAT'S THE GLAMPING PODS IN THERE. YEAH. OKAY. THEN THERE'S THE, THE YURTS ARE IN THERE, THEY'RE ALL PART OF IT. AND IN THAT, THOSE, THOSE, UH, LITTLE A-FRAMES THAT I SHOWED BEFORE ON TRAILERS ARE ALL PART OF IT. SO, UM, I DON'T WANT 10 AND THEN FOUR MORE. OKAY. I WANT 10. OKAY. THANK YOU. TWO OF THE RV TYPE IF I CAN AFFORD THEM MM-HMM . OKAY. THEY'RE ABOUT 86,000 EACH. AND THE ONES THAT I LIKE, TWO OF THE GLAMPING, IF I CAN AFFORD THEM, AND SIX PRIMITIVE, WHICH IS BASICALLY A MULCH PAD OR GRAVEL PAD AS KELLY PUT IT TO GO PITCH A TENT. SO IF YOU ASK ME WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON WHEN IT GETS ESTABLISHED AND I CAN AFFORD TO PUT IT TOGETHER, IT'LL BE 10 MULCH PADS. MM-HMM . BUT ONE OF THOSE TURN INTO A, WITHIN THE REGULATION ON, ON TRAILER A-FRAME. YEAH. WHEN WE MAKE SOME MONEY. YEAH. WILL IT BE A GLAMPING POD A YEAR LATER? YEAH, WE MAKE SOME MONEY. IF WE DON'T MAKING MONEY, IT'S GONNA STAY THE 10, YOU KNOW WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER CARL'S DEFINITION OF PRIMITIVE, WHICH IS TO GO OUT THERE IN THE ARMY, PUT [01:05:01] THE 10 UP. RIGHT. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE REGULATION SAYS. AND I WAS SURPRISED BY THAT. BUT WHEN PEOPLE TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO LEARN WHAT IT IS, I THINK THERE'D BE LESS AMBIGUITY, LIKE I SAID. AND I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MS. WALL, DID YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING? I DID WANNA CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD, THE PARCELS THAT ARE INCLUDED WITH THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ARE TAX MAP 35 PARCEL FIVE DASH ONE TAX MAP 35 PARCEL FIVE DASH TWO TAX MAP 35 PARCEL FIVE B DASH ONE PARCEL 35, OR TAX MAP 35 PARCEL 10 A AS AN APPLE ONE AND TAX MAP 35 PARCEL 10 A AS AN APPLE. WHEN MR. I FIRST STARTED THIS APPLICATION, UM, HE WAS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF IT CREATING 20 ACRE EXEMPT SUBDIVISION. SO THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES. AND THEN WE WANTED TO, I SPOKE THIS, I SPOKE TO HIM ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY. WE WANTED TO EXCLUDE PARCEL FIVE THREE FROM THIS APPLICATION AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY IN THERE. UM, SO WE'RE REMOVING PARCEL FIVE THREE FROM THE APPLICATION. SO IT'LL BE 5 1, 5 2, 5, B ONE 10, A ONE AND 10 A. SO IT'S A TOTAL OF A LITTLE OVER 96 ACRES AS OPPOSED TO THE ORIGINAL 130 ACRES. AND I ALSO WANTED TO CONTRIBUTE IN OUR SUPPLEMENTARY REGS. YOU HAD BROUGHT UP THE BUFFERS IN THE SUPPLEMENTARY REGS FOR CAMPGROUND. IN DESIGNING THE CAMPGROUND, THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE A MINIMUM OF 50 FEET OF UNDEVELOPED LAND ALONG THE TOTAL PERIMETER OF THE PROPOSED SITE. SO IF THIS IS APPROVED AND HE SUBMITS A SITE PLAN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WILL HAVE TO MAKE SURE BEFORE I'M ABLE TO SIGN OFF ON A SITE PLAN. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I DID PROVIDE EACH OF YOU WITH AN UPDATED MOTION TO AMEND THAT EXCLUDING PARCEL FIVE THREE. YES, SIR. YEAH, I, THERE'S, SO THERE'S AN AMENDMENT HERE IN WHICH SAYS AN ONSITE HILL SHALL BE AVAILABLE ON THE PREMISES IN ANY PERIOD IN WHICH CAMPERS ARE OCCUPYING. DID YOU MAKE A, A REFERENCE, I GUESS YOU HAVE ANO YOU HAVE A, ANOTHER FACILITY. IS THERE A PERSON THAT'S IN RESIDENCE TH THERE FOR THAT PURPOSE? OR ON 35 DASH FIVE DASH ONE IS THE HOME THAT I FORGET TOM'S LAST NAME, TOM, SONYA BUILT THE BIG, THE BIG TURD UP THE TOP AND ALL STUFF. HE ORIGINALLY WAS, HAD A RENTAL CABIN ABOUT 80 HOURS AWAY FROM THAT, THAT HE STAYED IN. THAT'S ON 35 5 B DASH ONE. THAT ONE HAS SOMEBODY THAT STAYS IN THERE. YES. AND THAT'S THE PERSON THAT, UH, OKAY. THAT IS GONNA BE ON SITE. HE'S HERE. SO HE, HE'S THE GUY THAT'S GONNA BE THERE AND HE PATROLS THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY WITH AN A TV THAT I'VE GIVEN HIM. AND WE'VE HAD, I'M LUCKY TO HAVE HIM BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE DOWN THERE SAID THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN. SO WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE NO ISSUES, BUT WE'RE REALLY NOT SUPPOSED TO BE, AND THEY LEFT. SO IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN A GOOD THING FOR ME TOO. OKAY. SO YOU HAVE AN ON ONSITE HOST. MM-HMM . WHETHER THERE'S ONE MUL PADD TENT THERE, THERE'S GONNA BE AN ONSITE HOST. 'CAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY GOT LIKE THAT ARRANGED. I DO, YEAH. OKAY. LET ME SAY THIS. SO THIS, IF FOR SOME REASON THE GUY WAS SICK OR SOMETHING, THOSE I, I WOULDN'T RENT IT, YOU KNOW, THAT I, I MEAN I, I VALUE THIS LAND BE THAT WOULD BE THE EXCEPTION. WE LIVE IN OHIO, STILL LIKE TO COME OUT HERE BECAUSE WE LIKE WHAT WE HAVE HERE. ALRIGHT. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER MEN IS THAT, UH, YOU'RE AMENABLE TO UH, SAY MAXIMUM OF 10. SO THAT'S SPECIFIED WHERE WE'RE NOW. YES, SIR. I FOLLOWED IT. LIKE I SAID, I WENT BACK TO THE TRANSCRIPT. IT'S PRETTY THANKS TO KELLY. IT'S PRETTY DETAILED. I JUST WENT, FOUND THE QUESTIONS. I'LL HAVE THEM FROM MS. COLORS AND A COUPLE OTHERS. SO WE, I THINK WE ANSWERED THOSE TO SATISFAC. I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. ANYONE ELSE JUST HAD A COMMENT? I KNOW THIS HAS GONE ON SINCE APRIL OF LAST YEAR, AND I UNDERSTAND, UM, THE REASONING TO BRING THIS UP TODAY, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS MAY BE A LITTLE BIT BEYOND WHAT WE USUALLY HAVE THE MORNING MEETINGS FOR. AND THAT'S HOUSEKEEPING. AND I THINK THIS GOES BEYOND HOUSEKEEPING FROM THAT STANDPOINT. AND AGAIN, WE HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE SPOKE TODAY REGARDING THIS IN PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT ADDITIONAL PEOPLE WOULD WANNA SPEAK TO. AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE IDEA. WE WENT TO MORNING MEETINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT WOULD BE HOUSEKEEPING AND IF THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES, AND THIS IS ONE THAT WE WOULD HAVE THEM IN THE EVENING. I DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN OPINION. THAT'S, THAT'S JUST A POLICY DECISION FOR THE BOARD. HOWEVER Y'ALL WANNA MOVE FORWARD. YOU KNOW, THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS. RIGHT. SO IF, IF, IF YOU JUST CHOSE TO MOVE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING, YEAH. YOU WOULD GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK DURING THEIR GENERAL COMMENT PERIOD IF YOU WANTED TO. UM, BUT THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY OTHER PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THIS, NOR WOULD THERE BE ANY REQUIREMENT TO DO SO. BUT IT'S UP TO THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD, HOWEVER Y'ALL WANNA DO IT. OKAY. I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE SET THE POLICIES, WE SHOULD GO BY THEM. AND SO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? I, OKAY. EITHER WAY YOU WANNA GO. I WILL SAY I'VE MET WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS, SOME [01:10:01] OF WHICH ARE HERE TODAY. UM, WE MET WITH MRS. WALL YESTERDAY AND, UM, I THINK, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S REPRESENTATION HERE FROM THE PEOPLE THAT WERE CONCERNED LAST TIME. UM, SO I, I FEEL LIKE THAT THEY'RE GOOD WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS AND, AND FINALIZING IT. UM, HAD I HAD ANY IDEA THAT THEY WERE NOT, I WOULD'VE NOT PUT THIS, YOU KNOW, ON AND WE WOULD'VE HAD IT FOR A NIGHT. BUT I THINK THE COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN BEEN GOOD WITH THAT. SO I'M COMFORTABLE AT THIS POINT MOVING FORWARD WITH IT, BUT I'M OPEN TO HEARING FROM THE REST OF YOU. I'M OKAY TO MOVE FORWARD. YOU MOVE. OKAY. MR. JAMESON KIND OF A, A GRAY AREA THING, BUT, BUT I, I, UH, I THINK THE ADJUSTMENTS MADE, UM, OR REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I, I, I DO, I THINK I, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. CARTER'S SAYING AND I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THAT, AND I KIND OF WISH, UH, IT WASN'T AN AFTERNOON MEETING, BUT IT'S NOT A HEARING. UM, IT'S A UNFINISHED BUSINESS. SO I'VE READ ALL, I'VE READ THE CORRESPONDENCE, UM, FROM PEOPLE IN THE AREA. UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT AS VOLUMINOUS. I, I DON'T KNOW IF, I HOPE I'M NOT MISINTERPRETING THAT, BUT THE FACT IS THAT 10 IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE FROM A HUNDRED, UM, OR MORE. SO, UH, AND THE ONSITE PRESENCE IS, IS A, IS I THINK VERY SUBSTANTIAL. UM, CHANGE CHANGE BECAUSE I'M NOT OKAY WITH IT. OKAY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, DO I HAVE A MOTION AND JUST TO REMIND YOU THAT THE, THE APPLICANT IS, IS, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, SIR. IS, IS HAS TOLD YOU THAT THERE'S GONNA BE AN ON ONSITE HOST AND SO THE, THE PLANNING, UM, MS. WALL HAS SUGGESTED THAT YOU ADD A CONDITION 15, WHICH READS AN ONSITE HOST SHALL BE AVAILABLE ON THE PREMISES DURING, UH, THE PERIOD IN WHICH CAMPERS ARE OCCUPYING THE FACILITY. AND SO THAT WOULD BE A, A NEW CONDITION 15, WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS SOMETHING THE APPLICANT IS PLANNING ON DOING. YES, MA'AM. THERE'S ALSO IN THE SAME HANDOUT, A CONDITION 16, WHICH IS, UH, A COMMITMENT TO LIMITED MAXIMUM OF 10 CAMPSITES. SO YOU, AND YOU COULD DO THAT, BUT THE APPLICATION IS FOR 10, IS THAT CORRECT? IT IS, YEP. SO YOU CAN'T GET MORE THAN YOU'VE APPLIED FOR. SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, YOU CAN PUT THAT IN IF YOU LIKE, BUT IT'S ALREADY 10. I THINK I'D LIKE, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S SOME FAIRLY CONFUSING LANGUAGE, UH, REFERENCES, SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT APPLYING FOR 10, BUT THEN THERE'S OTHER LANGUAGE AND THAT, THAT'S A FAIR POINT. PARDON? THAT'S A FAIR POINT, YES. OKAY. SO I WOULD JUST OUT OF, OUT OF PREFERENCE, MAKE IT EXPLICIT AS CONDITION NUMBER 16. YES. IF YOU'D LIKE TO READ IT, UM, WITH THE ADDITION OF CONDITIONS NUMBER 15 AND 16, WHICH READ, UM, THEN READ, READ, READ EACH OF THOSE PLEASE. THE TOP PARAGRAPH AND THE BOTTOM. DO YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? SURE. MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE CUP 2025 DASH OH TWO DASH OH TWO FOR A CAMPGROUND AS AMENDED TO EXCLUDE TAX MAP 35 LONG DASH FIVE DASH THREE WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF. AND WITH THE ADDITION OF CONDITION 15, WHICH READS AN ONSITE HOST SHALL BE AVAILABLE ON THE PREMISES DURING ANY PERIOD IN WHICH CAMPERS ARE OCCUPYING THE FACILITY. FURTHERMORE, ADDING CONDITION 16, THE NUMBER OF CAMPSITES PERMITTED ON THE PROPERTY SHALL BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF 10 CAMPSITES AT ANY TIME. NO ADDITIONAL CAMPSITES SHALL BE ESTABLISHED, ADVERTISED, OR UTILIZED WITHOUT AMENDMENT TO THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ROLL CALL MR. HENDERSON. MR. STAN MEYER. AYE. MR. CARTER? AYE. MADAM CHAIR? AYE. DR. JAMISON? AYE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS? [01:15:02] IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING AND SAFE TRAVELS HOME. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.