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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TO THE MAY 19TH, 2026 BOARD OF SUPERVISOR MEETINGS.
AND AT THIS TIME, REVEREND DESANTIS, IF YOU WOULD LEAD US IN PRAYER.
SIR, APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TONIGHT.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TONIGHT THANKING YOU FOR YOUR MANY BLESSINGS THAT YOU HAVE BESTOWED UPON US.
UH, WE DO NOT DESERVE YOUR BLESSING, YOUR GOODNESS, BUT THANKFULLY THROUGH YOUR SON, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, WE CAN KNOW YOU.
WE CAN HAVE ETERNAL LIFE, AND WE RELY UPON YOU AS THE MOTTO ABOVE THE BOARD SAYS, IN GOD, WE TRUST.
AND SO, FATHER, TONIGHT, I PRAY FOR THIS MEETING, FOR THOSE WHO WILL SPEAK, UH, DECISIONS THAT WILL BE MADE, UH, THAT THAT WHICH IS DONE WILL BE DONE DECENTLY IN AN ORDER, AS YOUR WORD SAYS.
AND THAT FATHER, THERE WILL BE RESPECT FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE WHO, WHO SPEAKS, UH, WHETHER IT BE FROM THE, UH, CITIZENRY OR FROM THE BOARD.
FATHER, WE KNOW THAT WE WILL ONE DAY GIVE AN ACCOUNT EVEN FOR THIS EVENING.
AND SO MAY WE DO THAT WHICH IS PLEASING IN YOUR SIGHT.
AND WE ASK FOR WISDOM AND YOUR BLESSING TONIGHT.
IF EVERYONE WOULD STILL, UH, STAND PLEASE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE STOOD THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[B. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America ]
TO ORDER ADOPTION OF THE[C. Adoption of Agenda – Additions or Deletions ]
AGENDA.ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? HEARING NONE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED? MADAM CHAIR, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA PRESENTED.
[D. Public Comment Period (60 Minute Time Limit) ]
COMMENT PERIOD IS ONE HOUR AND EACH SPEAKER HAS THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON, UM, ANYTHING THAT'S ON THE AGENDA BESIDES THE PUBLIC HEARING, BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE TIME DURING EACH PUBLIC HEARING, UM, TO SPEAK ON THOSE AND READ THE, UM, CODE OF CONDUCT FOR PUBLIC SPEAKING.UH, ALL COMMENTS ARE TO BE DIRECTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, NOT TO THE AUDIENCE.
BE CONSIDERATE OF YOUR FELLOW SPEAKERS.
THERE SHOULD BE NO APPLAUSE, BOOING, OR OTHER AUDIBLE DISRUPTION THROUGH A SHOW OF HANDS, THE CHAIRMAN MAY ASK FOR A SHOW OF SUPPORT FOR COMMENTS MADE BY SPEAKERS, PLACARDS, POSTERS, AND OTHER MEANS A VISUAL DISPLAY OF COMMENTS ARE NOT PERMITTED.
UH, BUT THOSE DO NOT INCLUDE FACTUAL MATERIALS FOR A PRESENTATION DURING ANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
AND THE BOARD WILL NOT TOLERATE PERSONAL ATTACKS, UM, ON ANYONE IN THE PROCEEDING, UH, PARTICIPATING IN THE PROCEEDINGS.
ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THE GUIDELINES MAY BE ASKED TO LEAVE BY THE CHAIRMAN.
UM, YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO SPEAK ON DATA CENTERS IF THAT IS WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO TONIGHT.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT IS NOT PART OF AN AGENDA, BUT IT DOESN'T LIMIT YOU TO NOT HAVE TIME TO SPEAK.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO TRY TO KEEP DOWN THE, THE CLAPPING OR THAT KIND OF THING BECAUSE IT LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF TIME.
IF IT TAKES TWO OR THREE MINUTES TO SETTLE EVERYBODY DOWN SO THAT THE NEXT SPEAKER CAN BE HEARD, THAT'S POSSIBLY ONE SPEAKER WHO WON'T GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING THE HOUR.
AND WE ALL WANT TO, WE WANNA HEAR YOU AND, UM, YOU WANNA HEAR EACH OTHER AS WELL.
SO, MR. HENDERSON, HIS, OH, AND ALSO WHEN YOU COME UP, IF YOU WOULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND THE DISTRICT YOU LIVE IN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN YOUR DISTRICT.
MR. HENDERSON, IS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? UH, YES MA'AM.
FIRST UP IS BILL KERNS, AND YOU CAN ADJUST THE MIC UP OR DOWN, WHICHEVER YOU NEED.
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I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING OFF.IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU GUYS THIS EVENING.
UM, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
UM, WHAT I WANT YOU TO KNOW IS THAT MY COLLEAGUES AND I KNOW THAT WE CAN'T DO OUR JOB IF YOU GUYS DON'T DO YOUR JOB TO ENSURE THE SAFETY NOT TO STOP YOU.
BUT I DON'T THINK YOU TOLD US WHO YOU ARE.
UM, I'M, I'M, CAN I WAIT FOR A SECOND TO DO THAT? OKAY.
I'M BILL KERNS, SENIOR PARTNER OF, UM, FARM ROYAL FAMILY PRACTICE, WHICH IS TO SAY I'M THE OLD GUY THERE AND I'M IN THE NORTH RIVER DISTRICT.
SO APPRECIATE YOUR, YOU'RE LISTENING TO ME.
UM, BUT WHAT I WANTED TO TRY TO DO IS TO, TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT YOU GUYS ARE TAKING FOR GRANTED AS FAR AS THE SERVICES YOU PROVIDE AND THE THINGS YOU DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A SAFE AND HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND HONESTLY, WE CAN'T DO HEALTHCARE IF YOU GUYS AREN'T DOING YOUR JOB.
UM, WE STARTED THE PRACTICE 48 YEARS AGO, IT SEEMS LIKE A LONG, DARN TIME AGO.
UM, IT'S BEEN CONSTANT CHANGE EVER SINCE THEN.
AND THIS YEAR IS A REALLY BIG CHANGE.
UH, WE STARTED THE FAMILY PRACTICE RESIDENCY PROGRAM WITH VALLEY HEALTH 28 YEARS AGO TO EMBED OUR PRIVATE PRACTICE IN THEIR FACILITIES IN ORDER TO TEACH YOUNG FAMILY PHYSICIANS AND TEACH.
WE HAVE WINNING ACADEMIC AND RESEARCH AWARDS MANY TIMES GRADUATING OVER 120 FAMILY PHYSICIANS, 50% OF WHOM ARE STILL IN THE SHENANDOAH, UH, VALLEY, MANY OF WHICH ARE IN THIS AREA, ALL WHILE STAYING FRONT ROYAL FAMILY PRACTICE, UH, AND MANAGING OURSELVES.
LAST YEAR, VALLEY HEALTH TERMINATED THAT AGREEMENT.
THEY GAVE US THE CHOICE OF DISSOLVING OUR PRACTICE AND WORKING FOR THEM, OR LEAVING RESIDENCY TEACHING AND VACATING THEIR PREMISES WITH HEAVY HEARTS.
IT APPEARS THAT WE ARE LEAVING TEACHING, HOWEVER, WE ARE NOT DISSOLVING FRONT ROYAL FAMILY PRACTICE TO BECOME A VALLEY HEALTH PRACTICE.
WE PURCHASED THE BUILDING BY THE OLD HOSPITAL.
WE'VE HAD TO COMPLETELY REFURBISH IT, BUT WE WILL BE THERE JULY 1ST, LOOKING FRESH AND NEW AND INDEED EXPANDING HOURS AND ADDING SERVICES FOR OUR PATIENTS.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE FAMILY MEDICINE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
WITH YOUR ASSISTANCE, I WANTED TO TELL YOU GUYS DIRECTLY AND TO ASSURE YOU AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH YOU TO PROVIDE HEALTHY RESOURCES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO YOU.
AND I'M JUST GONNA TAKE A MOMENT TO PUT A PLUG IN.
I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO WORK WITH DR.
KERNS AND IT WARMS MY HEART TO SEE YOU'RE GOING HOME.
'CAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF GOOD FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND YOU'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO.
AND IT'S BEEN MY HONOR TO WORK FOR YOU AND WITH YOU.
NEXT, UH, NEXT UP IS JOHN JENKINS.
JOHN JENKINS, SOUTH RIVER DISTRICT TAXES.
LOOK, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS RECENTLY APPROVED AN 18% INCREASE IN THE REAL ESTATE TAX.
AND, UH, 50% OR APPROXIMATELY $8 MILLION OF THAT INCREASE WAS GIVEN TO WARREN COUNTY SCHOOLS.
I I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS DECISION BASED ON THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION.
THE TOP 10 EMPLOYEES IN WARREN COUNTY SCHOOLS EARN A COMBINED INCOME OF 1.6 TO $1.7 MILLION.
THE AVERAGE TEACHER SALARY IS $80,000 FOR A CONTRACT OF 10 MONTHS.
DURING THAT TIME, THEY'RE PAID OFF.
THEY ARE RECEIVE PAID HOLIDAYS, APPROXIMATELY 10 PAID HOLIDAYS, STATE AND FEDERAL, 10 DAYS OF SICK LEAVE.
THREE PERSONAL DAYS, TIME OFF AT CHRISTMAS THROUGH NEW YEAR'S AND EASTER TOTAL, AN ADDITIONAL FIVE OR SIX DAYS, I BELIEVE THERE WAS AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF TEACHERS, 467 TEACHERS, 138 INSTRUCTIONAL ASSISTANTS IN THE SYSTEM, STUDENTS FULL-TIME, 4,750.
WHEN YOU DO THE MATH, THAT RATIO COMES OUT TO 10 TO ONE.
HOWEVER, WARREN COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEM IS RANKED 83 OUT OF 1 29, WITH ONE BEING THE BEST AND 1 29 BEING THE WORST.
PLACING WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS BELOW THE 50% LEVEL.
NOW, THE SUPERINTENDENT PRESENTED A SCHOOL BUDGET TO THE WARREN COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD AFTER BEING ON THE JOB FOR LESS THAN
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FOUR MONTHS, FOLLOWING SEVERAL PUBLIC MEETINGS, THE BUDGET WAS SENT TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, A RETIRED SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT, AND LATER RETURNED TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL.WHAT STUDY WAS DONE TO SUPPORT THIS INCREASE? HOW IS THE ADDITIONAL $5 MILLION GOING TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF EDUCATION FOR WARREN COUNTY STUDENTS? HOW MANY TEACHERS EMPLOYED BY WARREN COUNTY DO NOT HAVE THEIR CREDENTIALS AS REQUIRED BY THE STATE? I'M LEGALLY REQUIRED TO PAY TAXES IN RETURN.
THERE SHOULD BE ACCOUNTABILITY TO ENSURE THOSE FUNDS ARE USED FOR JUSTIFIED PURPOSES.
NOW, I WILL SAY THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL STUDENTS THAT EXCEL MOVE ON TO GET, TO, GET, UH, AWARDS.
AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT THING, AND THAT'S PROBABLY DONE BY SOME OF THE BEST TEACHERS THAT ARE IN THE SYSTEM.
BUT THERE ARE ALSO CHILDREN THAT ARE LEFT BEHIND THAT YOU NEVER HEAR ABOUT, SIMPLY REQUESTING ADDITIONAL FUNDS WITHOUT SUPPORT BACKUP.
I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
I DON'T MIND PAYING TAXES, BUT I DON'T WANT MY MONEY WASTED.
AND RIGHT NOW, FROM THIS REPORT, THIS IS INFORMATION I GOT OFF THE INTERNET, SOME THROUGH THE, UH, SCHOOL BOARD, UH, INTERNET, UH, SITE.
SO IF I'M INCORRECT, I WILL APOLOGIZE IF I'M CORRECT, I WOULD LIKE SOMETHING DONE ABOUT IT.
MY NAME IS LOUIS MOTON FROM THE NORTH RIVER DISTRICT.
UM, I VOLUNTEER AT THE SENIOR CENTER QUITE OFTEN.
I SENT YOU EXTENSIVE EMAIL TODAY, BUT I'LL SUMMARIZE.
UM, BASICALLY OUR SENIORS ARE, UH, HAVING DIFFICULTY AND THEY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, FIXED INCOMES, AND, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT THEIR FUTURE.
WE SAT THERE FRIDAY WHILE CARDS WERE BEING PASSED AROUND, UH, FOR TWO SENIORS HAD PASSED.
AND THEY WERE TELLING ME THAT THEY HAD TO TURN AWAY THREE PEOPLE THAT DAY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD, UH, ASSISTING MORE SENIORS WITH TWO PASSING.
UM, THEY HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO THEM.
UH, THE SENIORS ARE TALKING ABOUT RISING GROCERY COSTS, MEDICATIONS, UTILITIES, TRANSPORTATION AND PROPERTY TAXES MOSTLY.
UM, THEY'VE LIVED IN THEIR HOMES FOR DECADES AND NOW FEEL UNCERTAIN ABOUT, UM, IF THEY CAN REMAIN THERE.
UH, DURING THE FISCAL HEARING, UH, FOR THE 2027 BUDGET, UH, SUPERVISOR HUGH HENRY DESCRIBED PORTIONS OF THE, UM, THE, THE STRUCTURE OF SENIOR TAX RELIEF ARE OUTDATED.
UH, BEING THERE'S A $300,000 THRESHOLD, I THINK FROM 91 OR 95, AND TODAY THAT'S EQUIVALENT TO ABOUT $795,000 TODAY OF SPENDING POWER.
SO WE ARE ASKING OUR SENIORS TO, TO BE ABLE TO QUALIFY WITH LESS SPENDING POWER THAN WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE A FEW DECADES AGO.
I BA BASICALLY, WE HAVE SOME ECONOMIC REALITIES THAT ARE AFFECTING THEM.
I SENT YOU QUITE A FEW OF, UM, THINGS THAT MIGHT HELP TO KEEP UP WITH THE, THE TRENDS AND STUFF, HAVING TO KEEP GOING BACK AND PUTTING IN HARDCODED NUMBERS, MAYBE USING GIS FOR FAIR MARKET VALUE, AND, UH, MAYBE USE, UH, INFLATION NUMBERS AS WELL, OR SOCIAL SECURITY IN SOME WAY TO KEEP UP WITH HOW MUCH THEY CAN BRING IN WITH INCOME, AS WELL AS FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT THEIR LIFE EXPECTANCY IS OR AT, ON AVERAGE FOR HOW MUCH THEY CAN HAVE IN THEIR RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS.
UM, THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THE FLOOR ISSUES LAST YEAR.
THEY'RE VERY HAPPY THEY'RE STILL MOVING AROUND.
UM, BUT THIS IS A BIT OF A CONCERN.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.
THEY ASKED ME TO BRING IT UP TO YOU.
I DID TELL THEM TO CONTACT YOU, WRITE EMAIL, CALL OR SHOW UP HERE.
AND I THINK WE'VE ALL REALIZED THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE RELUCTANT TO COME UP HERE AND SPEAK.
I'VE BEEN HERE LIVING HERE FOR ABOUT 12 YEARS.
I WAS IN ATTENDANCE AT THE MAY 13TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UM, WHERE WE BASICALLY HAD A STANDING ROOM ONLY CROWD HERE.
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WAS REALLY PLEASED TO SEE THE WHOLE COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER, UM, AND, AND TO, TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR GOVERNMENT.AND BY THE TIME I LEFT, I DIDN'T FEEL THAT WAY ANYMORE.
I FELT LIKE THERE WAS AN US THEM ENVIRONMENT AND IT WAS A PEACEFUL MEETING.
THERE WAS SOME APPLAUDING, BUT IT WAS NOTHING.
IT MAY HAVE BEEN 15 SECONDS, BUT, UM, I, I, I DON'T, AND, AND IT WAS SELECTIVE WHETHER THERE WAS A OBJECTION TO THE APPLAUD OR NOT.
AND, YOU KNOW, I
THAT'S NOTHING CLOSE TO WHAT WAS GOING ON.
WE'RE CONCERNED CITIZENS TRYING TO GIVE FEEDBACK WITH GRAVE CONCERNS FOR, FOR THESE DATA CENTERS.
AND TO BE REFERRED TO AS A LYNCH MOB, TO RE BE REFERRED TO AS IMMATURE, TO BE TALKED DOWN TO THE ENTIRE TIME.
AND TO HAVE EYES ROLLING AND LAUGHING WAS REALLY DISRESPECTFUL TO THE PEOPLE WHO CARE AND LIVE HERE.
I LIVE IN HAPPY CREEK DISTRICT.
I'M ACTUALLY GONNA, UM, GO A LITTLE DEEPER INTO WHAT KAREN JUST SHARED THERE.
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME GETTING INVOLVED IN ANY SORT OF LOCAL POLITICS.
I'VE LIVED IN WARREN COUNTY FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW.
WE MOVED HERE FROM ALEXANDRIA.
AND I'M SO AMAZED BY WHAT I SEE OUT HERE.
AND THE COMMUNITY THAT'S OUT HERE IS NOTHING COMPARED TO WHAT'S IN NOVA.
AND I KNOW ALL OF YOU KNOW THAT.
UM, ASIDE FROM THAT, I THINK ALL OF YOU SHOULD BE INCREDIBLY EMBARRASSED AND DISAPPOINTED IN YOUR APPOINTEES AND THE WAY THAT THEY SPOKE TO YOUR COMMUNITY THAT CAME OUT.
THESE PEOPLE APPOINTED YOU, THEY ELECTED YOU, AND THEY CAME OUT FOR SOMETHING THAT REALLY, REALLY AFFECTS THEM.
THERE WERE PEOPLE UP HERE CRYING, PHYSICALLY CRYING, AND THEY WERE LAUGHED AT AND THEY WERE EYES WERE ROLLED AT THEM.
AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT Y'ALL ARE NOT ACTING LIKE THAT TONIGHT.
I MEAN, TRULY, I CAN REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT FOR MR. BARNHART TO THEN POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT A DATA CENTER AREN'T REAL WARREN COUNTY RESIDENTS.
WELL Y'ALL, I JUST PAID MY PROPERTY TAXES.
SO IF I'M NOT A REAL WARREN COUNTY RESIDENT, CAN I HAVE THOSE BACK? BECAUSE I'M NOT A FAN OF PAYING THEM.
BUT I DO IT BECAUSE I LIKE LIVING HERE.
UM, I JUST, I FIND IT TO BE CRAZY THAT WE CAN BE SPOKE TO LIKE THAT, BE TOLD THAT WE'RE A LYNCH MOB WHO AIN'T GONNA SHUT UP.
I MEAN, THAT IS JUST CRAZY FOR, UM, SOMEONE TO SIT UP THERE AND SAY THAT THEY CAN'T EVEN REALLY TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY SIGNED AN NDA WITH THE COMPANY.
I MEAN, THAT'S GOTTA BE WILD THAT YOU THOUGHT THAT YOUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY WASN'T GONNA HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I MEAN, IT'S TRULY, I I FEEL LIKE, I DON'T MEAN TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE THIS IS STRICTLY YOUR FAULT.
OBVIOUSLY ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT CAN CONTROL THEMSELVES.
BUT THE FACT THAT NONE OF YOU COULD COME FORWARD AND SAY THAT WHAT THEY SAID WAS WRONG, THAT THEY SPOKE, YOU APPOINTED THEM.
SO ARGUABLY YOU'RE KIND OF RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR BEHAVIOR AND YOU TRUSTED THEM TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THIS COMMUNITY THAT WAS HELPFUL, BENEFICIAL, AND WOULD REALLY, REALLY BE WHAT WOULD MAKE THIS PLACE EVEN BETTER.
AND I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE WHETHER A DATA CENTER'S NECESSARY OR NOT.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR.
YOU SAW HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOWED UP, HOW MANY PEOPLE TALKED THAT CLEARLY DIDN'T WANT ONE AT ALL.
I MEAN, THEY, THEY, YOU DON'T NEED TO SIT HERE AND HAVE 17 PEOPLE TELL YOU EVEN MORE THAN THAT.
I THINK THERE WERE MAYBE LIKE ALMOST 60 PEOPLE THAT WERE GONNA STAND UP HERE IN THAT MEETING LAST WEEK TO SAY THAT ALL OF THEM WERE BASICALLY GONNA SAY THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT A DATA CENTER.
YOU DON'T NEED TO BE TOLD THAT REPEATEDLY, BUT THEY CARE ENOUGH TO COME OUT HERE, TAKE TIMES OUT OF THEIR EVENING TO DO THAT.
AND FOR THAT TEAM OF PEOPLE WHO THIS IS THEIR JOB, TO ACT LIKE THEY WERE SO INCONVENIENCED TO BE HERE TO LISTEN TO THAT IS CRAZY.
UM, SO I HOPE THAT IN THE FUTURE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HOLD THEM RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WAY THAT THEY SPOKE TO THIS COMMUNITY.
THESE PEOPLE ARE IN INCREDIBLY CONCERNED AND WORRIED.
AND SO IT WOULD MEAN A LOT IF YOU GUYS COULD COME FORWARD AND JUST SAY THAT STUFF.
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ALL I HAVE FOR SIGNUPS, MA'AM.WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY, THIRD AND FINAL CALL.
ANYONE? ALL RIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON WITH THE REST OF THE AGENDA.
[E.1. Reports – Board Members, County Administrator, County Attorney ]
DR.UM, I JUST, I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, WHAT'S BEEN SAID HERE AND, UH, I DID, UM, SPEAK WITH THE CHAIR AND I THINK THERE, THERE, THERE IS AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME EFFORTS TO, UM, WORK ON COMMUNICATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A NOTHING, BUT, UM, I THINK OUT OF, OUT OF A LEVEL OF RESPECT OF SORT OF LETTING THEM TRY TO, TO DEAL WITH THAT, UH, IS, IS GONNA BE THE FIRST STEP.
AND I, I RESPECT THE CHAIR'S DECISION TO DO IT THAT WAY.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA, I THINK'S GONNA HAPPEN.
UH, YEAH, I'LL, UH, I'LL DIG INTO IT A LITTLE BIT.
THE, UH, I WAS 12 YEARS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, OH, MYSELF.
OH, A LITTLE BIT OF MISCONCEPTION.
OH, MAYBE, MAYBE I WAS PART OF MISCOMMUNICATION.
MAYBE THEY DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB COMMUNICATING THE PROCESS ALL.
SOMETIMES YOU JUST THINK THE PUBLIC KNOWS THE PROCESS.
ALL IT WAS REASONABLE TO LIMIT THE TIME FOR GENERAL DISCUSSION JUST LIKE WE DID TONIGHT AND HAD AN HOUR TIME LIMIT ALL, YOU WILL NOT BE RESTRICTED TO TALK BECAUSE EVERY APPLICATION WILL GET A PUBLIC HEARING.
THE, UH, THE MATTER OF THE DATA CENTERS THAT WAS ON YOUR AGENDA WAS TO APPROVE IT FOR ADVERTISEMENT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS THE VERY THING THAT YOU WANT ALL IS FOR EVERYBODY TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST, JUST VOTE IT DOWN? 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT IT.
WELL, THAT'S, UM, THE APPLICANT.
IT'S, IT'S SHOCKING HOW SIMILAR IT IS TO A COURT PROCEEDINGS.
SO, OH, SOMEONE'S APPLIED TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO APPLY.
IT DOESN'T GUARANTEE THAT THEY'LL GET IT.
THEY STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO APPLY.
SO THEY HAVE TO PRESENT WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO.
AND THEN THE PUBLIC GIVES THEIR INPUT ON THAT.
AND THEN EITHER THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE BOARD WOULD WEIGH THAT.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU KINDA MAKE DECISIONS ON A BALANCED SCALE, YOU KNOW WHAT'S BAD, WHAT'S GOOD.
AND OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S WORSE FOR THE COMMUNITY THAN WHAT IT WOULD BENEFIT PROBABLY WON'T BE SUPPORTED.
ALL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PLANNING COMMISSION AND A BOARD IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS NOT A POLITICAL BODY.
ALL THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IT WITH A PLANNER'S LENS.
ALL THE POLITICAL END IS HERE WE HAVE THE FINAL SAY.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS A ATORY BOARD AND THEY'RE WORKING, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE, ALL LOOKING AT IT AS A PLANNER, THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, THAT NO POLITICS INVOLVED.
UH, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE APPOINTED AND NOT ELECTED ALL.
AND CONSEQUENTLY, WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE THE SAME AS THEM.
UH, IT'S BEEN MANY YEARS THAT I, WE EITHER VOTED AGAINST OR SUPPORTED SOMETHING AND MY COUNTERPART ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME, O VOTED THE OPPOSITE WAY.
UH, WHEN I WAS NEW ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I HAD A CONCERN OF THAT.
BUT, UH, MY BOARD MEMBER IN MY DISTRICT HAD APPOINTED IN INDICATED THAT HE HAD A LITTLE MORE, UH, A DIFFERENT VIEW OF IT.
AND USUALLY BY THE TIME IT GOT TO THE BOARD, HE ALSO GOT SOME NEW INFORMATION MAYBE I DIDN'T HAVE AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL.
UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING THAT WITH A CUP PROCESS.
THE OTHER 10 PHONE CALLS AS I GOT IS, WHY DON'T WE JUST BAN DATA CENTERS? UH, SOME PEOPLE ARGUE THAT YOU CAN, UH, LEGAL'S INDICATED TO ME IT'S NOT A PRETTY GOOD, NOT A GOOD IDEA.
UH, THERE IS SOME CASE PRE CASE PRECEDENCE THAT SAYS THAT THAT WOULD BE ILLEGAL.
UM, ONE'S NOT BEEN TRIED OVER A DATA CENTER, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO USE YOUR TAX DOLLARS TO TRY IT THE FIRST TIME HERE BECAUSE, UH, THEY DO HAVE PRETTY GOOD REVENUE SOURCE AND YOU DON'T WANNA GET IN A LEGAL BATTLE WITH SOMEBODY WITH REALLY DEEP POCKETS.
SO THE CUP PROCESS ON THAT WAS ANOTHER THING THAT WAS ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
IT WAS THIS BIG MAP, IT SHOWED OUR WHOLE INDUSTRIAL ZONE AND THEN IT SAID DATA CENTER ZONE.
WELL, WITH THE CUP PROCESS, IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT.
EACH LOT'S VIEWED INDIVIDUALLY.
IF YOU STAY THERE WILL BE SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTALS AND LITERALLY IT COULD BE THE SAME LOT, THE SAME CONDITIONS.
AND YOU CAN VOTE ONE YES AND ONE NO AND NOT EVEN REALLY GIVE A REASON.
YOU KNOW? SO, OH, IF BY CHANCE ONE WAS SUPPORTED SOMEWHERE ELSE, IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE REST OF THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE IS AUTOMATICALLY BY RIGHT? FOR DATA CENTERS.
THAT THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE DEFENSE MECHANISM WE'RE
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USING CURRENTLY AS A CUP PROCESS.SOMEBODY SAID, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU JUST DRAFT AN ORDINANCE AND MAKE THE CONDITION SO RIDICULOUS THAT THEY WON'T EVEN APPLY? WELL, THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS YOU MIGHT THINK THEY'RE RIDICULOUS, BUT THERE'S ENOUGH MONEY INVOLVED AND THEY MET THOSE CONDITIONS AND YOU HAD IT AS A BUYRIGHT USE IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE WITH THESE OUTRAGEOUS CONDITIONS.
IF THEY MET THOSE CONDITIONS, THERE'S NOTHING TO VOTE ON IF IT'S ALREADY ZONED INDUSTRIAL.
SO THE CUP PROCESS, UM, IS SOMEWHAT COMPLICATED, BUT IT IS OUR DEFENSE MECHANISM.
UM, SOMETHING ELSE THAT, UH, RIGHT HERE, I'LL, I'LL PULL A COUPLE OF 'EM UP.
THE SOCIAL MEDIA TRAP, UH, THAT WE CURRENTLY, IT'S KIND OF IRONIC THAT WE'RE, UH, UH, NOT SUPPORTING DATA CENTERS, BUT THEN WE'LL, WE'LL STILL, UH, USE SOCIAL MEDIA.
SO IT'S KIND OF A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD.
I'M GUILTY OF IT TOO, BUT, OH, WHAT'S UP FRONT? ROLL UNCENSORED CRYSTAL FEVER.
THESE FOUR BOARD MEMBERS IN WARREN COUNTY ARE THE ONLY ONES STANDING IN THE WAY OF DATA CENTERS BREAKING GROUND.
THEY TABLED TWO MOTIONS THAT WOULD'VE GRANTED DATA CENTERS WHAT THEY WANTED.
WE SHOWED UP IN FORCE OVER 160 FRONT ROW CITIZENS.
LET'S HELP THEM FEEL WELCOMED IN WARREN COUNTY.
WE WOULDN'T WANT THEM VOTING IN FAVOR OF DATA CENTERS.
WELL, I CAN'T EVEN FIND A HARDLY A TRUTHFUL STATEMENT IN THAT WHOLE THING.
ONE, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT DECISION.
WE DO TOLD YOU THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A PLANNING LENS.
OH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS 160 PEOPLE OR NOT HERE.
UH, AND THE MOTION THAT WAS TABLED WAS NOT TO SUPPORT A DATA CENTER.
IT WAS TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND WHEN WE ADVERTISED FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, IT'S PUT IN THE PAPER.
THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS ARE NOTIFIED, THE APPLICANTS GETS TO PRESIDENT AND EVERYBODY WILL GET TO COME IN AND SPEAK AND THERE WILL NOT BE A TIME LIMIT.
SO YOU WERE SORTA AT THE WRONG MEETING IF YOU WERE THERE FOR HOURS.
AND I APOLOGIZE THAT YOU THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE AN UNLIMITED TIME AND YOU COULD JUST GET TO SPEAK.
BUT THERE WILL BE A TIME FOR THAT AT BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD LEVEL.
ALL SOME OF THE OTHER NONSENSE THAT I'VE, UH, BARED THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA.
UH, MADISON HAMMOND RESPONSING TO A LIST.
THAT'S MY HUSBAND'S LAST NAME.
I IS IT OKAY
HUGHES HENRY ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OWNS A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY INTERESTED THAT HE IS SO PRO DATA CENTER.
THIS IS ALL ONE MASSIVE GRIFT.
EVERYONE HERE NEEDS TO BE LOOKING TO SEE WHO DONATES MONEY TO WHOSE CAMPAIGN.
THE ONLY THING TRUE ABOUT THIS AT STATEMENT, IT'S ALL PUBLIC INFORMATION.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO PULL MY CAMPAIGN FUNDS.
I SPENT A TOTAL OF $3,000 IN THE PRIMARY AND THE GENERAL ELECTIONS.
MA'AM, MA'AM, WE JUST, THE, UH, THANK YOU.
IT'S JUST, IT IS JUST NOT, IT'S NOT FACTUAL INFORMATION.
I, THE OTHER THING THAT MAY BE CALLED INTO QUESTION IS, UH, I'M GONNA CALL IT MS. SALE'S PERFORMANCE.
UH, SHE'S GOT THE RIGHT TO HER OPINION, UM, SHE'S ALSO ANTI-D DATA CENTER.
SHE'S ALSO WANT SPENDS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HOURS A DAY ATTACKING SOMEBODY ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
IF YOU'VE BETTER, UM, I CAN'T COUNT WHAT SHE SAYS.
SHE'S HAD A VOTE OF CENSOR AT THE SCHOOL BOARD LEVEL.
SHES KNOCKED ON MY NEIGHBOR'S DOOR AND SAID, MADE UNTRUTH STATEMENTS ABOUT ME BECAUSE THEY CALLED AND TOLD ME.
AND I BELIEVE THOSE PEOPLE, 'CAUSE I'VE LIVED IN THE SAME PLACE WITHIN A HOUSE OR TWO SINCE I WAS TWO YEARS OLD AND I'M NOW 55.
THEY'VE BEEN MY LIFELONG FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY REASON TO MAKE UP WHAT WAS SAID.
I WON'T REPEAT THEIR NAMES FOR WHAT WAS ACTUALLY SAID, BUT UH, IT FALLS UNDER THE SAME THING.
UH, AND IN FACT, UH, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS AND THESE TYPE OF FALSEHOODS FALSEHOODS THAT COME OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THEY'RE JUST ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.
MAKE IT HARD FOR ME TO SIT HERE AND WADE THROUGH THE REAL CREDIBLE PEOPLE WITH REAL CREDIBLE CONCERNS.
OH, I THINK SOME OF THE HYPE GOING INTO THAT MEETING WAS, IT WAS PROBABLY PUT OUT, GET DOWN HERE AND STOP THESE DATA CENTERS.
WELL, IT WASN'T EVEN ON THE AGENDA TO BE VOTED FOR.
I DON'T KNOW KNOW IF THAT WAS DONE ON PURPOSE OR ACCIDENT, BUT OH, DEFINITELY KEEP YOURSELF INFORMED.
DEFINITELY COME TO THE MEETINGS, THE PUBLIC PUBLIC PRESENTATION TIME.
HE'S BEEN THERE LONGER THAN I'VE BEEN AROUND IN THIS GAME AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, RELATIVE PLANNING ISSUES AND DATA CENTER WOULD
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BE ONE OF THEM.AND IT'S GOOD TO COME OUT AND SHOW A LITTLE FORCE.
'CAUSE THEN THAT ALSO LETS THEM KNOW, HEY, WE PROBABLY ARE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT PUBLIC.
HE, UH, HEARING ON A NIGHT WITH EIGHT OTHER ITEMS. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOT ENOUGH SUPPORT OR CONCERN DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT OUT OF THE COMMUNITY.
THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO HAVE ITS OWN NIGHT PROBABLY AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND HERE.
SO MAYBE IT WAS GOOD THAT THOSE PEOPLE COME OUT.
BUT I I WOULD JUST ASK YOU DON'T, DON'T FALL IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA TRAP AND JUST AUTOMATICALLY BELIEVE EVERYTHING THAT YOU READ ON SOCIAL MEDIA IS TRUE.
AND, UH, I PROMISE YOU, LEGALLY WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
LEGALLY WE ARE REQUIRED TO HEAR EVERYBODY AND LEGALLY WE ARE REQUIRED TO HEAR THE APPLICANT.
YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO A COURT CASE.
SO IF YOU WENT TO COURT AND THE JURY FOUND YOU GUILTY AND YOU DIDN'T GET TO SPEAK, YOU'D GET AN APPEAL AND WIN.
SO IF WE VOTED AGAINST THE APPLICANT AND HE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO PRESENT HIS CASE, HE'D LY EASILY SUE US AND WIN.
SO IT HAS TO BE DONE PROCEDURALLY CORRECT AND FAIRLY, OR YOU'LL ACCIDENTALLY GET THE VERY THING THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO BEAT.
WE DO NOT WANNA BE IN A LAWSUIT 'CAUSE IN A LAWSUIT, NO OFFENSE TO YOU, MR. HAM, BUT THE ONLY PEOPLE WIN ARE THE ATTORNEYS.
SO, OH, I JUST CAUTION SHANETTE AND, UH, I'LL TALK TO MY PLANNER AND, UH, HE'S FAIRLY NEW AND HE, HE MAY HAD, UH, I'LL TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT.
I, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT AND, AND, UM, I'LL BE SURE THAT HE WORKS HARDER TO HEAR EVERYBODY AND, UH, I'LL MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS HERE AS WELL.
THANK YOU MR. STAN MEYER, CAN WE LET HER, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT GIVE HER A CHANCE TO RESPOND.
YOU JUST CALL HER OUT ON A COMMENT THAT SHE MADE ON A SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM AND YOU TRIED TO TAKE IT AS A DIG TO LEVERAGE YOURSELF, SIR, AND YOUR SUPPORT.
AND SORRY FOR CUTTING IN, BUT NO, I, THAT'S, THAT'S HONEST.
I, I DON'T DISAGREE THAT, AND I WOULD'VE ENCOURAGE MAYBE A CONVERSATION IF YOU'RE WILLING AFTERWARDS TRYING TO STICK TO THE RULES.
IT'S ONE PERSON SPEAKS DURING, UM, THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND WE'VE MOVED ON.
SO IS IT OKAY TO JUST, UH, SAY HOW YOU PRONOUNCE MY LAST NAME THOUGH? BECAUSE YOU SAID HAMMOND AND THAT'S NOT MY LAST NAME.
YOU GOT MINE BACKWARDS TOO, SO WE'RE EVEN, UH, OKAY, FINE.
I WILL GLADLY TALK TO YOU AFTER THE MEETING IF YOU'RE WILLING TO STAY THAT LATE.
I REALLY APPRECIATE IT, THAT EVERYTHING IS GONNA BE LEGAL AND UNFAIRLY.
THE ATTORNEY HAS BASICALLY MADE IT SO THAT ANYTHING, ANY COMP, ANYTHING MA'AM BETWEEN ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE IS GONNA BE, IT'S LOCKED DOWN.
SO DON'T SAY IT'S GONNA BE FAIR MA'AM.
ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE IS NOT ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE.
JUST ANY COMMUNICATION WHATSOEVER.
THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE UPSET ABOUT THIS.
THE TRANSPARENCY OF WHAT GOING ON.
MA'AM, I REALLY DON'T WANNA CUT YOU OFF, BUT I WISH YOU HAD GOTTEN UP AND SPOKEN DURING THE PUBLIC AND INVITE YOU TO COME BACK TO OUR NEXT MEETING AND, AND YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO SPEAK, BUT TO KEEP WITH THE RULES OF AND THE POLICIES OF OUR MEETING.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, I, I DID WANT TO RECOGNIZE WHAT, UH, MR. KERNS OR DR.
KERNS SAID FROM, UH, FRONT ROYAL FAMILY PRACTICE.
UH, I'M PLEASED THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PUTTING IN THE EFFORT AND THE, THE MONEY TO, TO STAY, UH, WITH THE COMMUNITY.
UH, AND THEY ARE A DEFINITE BENEFIT.
SO I'M, I'M REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.
UM, REGARDING MR. TON'S COMMENT ON THE SENIOR CENTER.
I WAS ACTUALLY, I'VE GOT A REPLY TO YOUR EMAIL THAT'S IN, IN DRAFT, BUT I, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THOSE CONCERNS.
UM, AND, UH, PARTICULARLY THE HEARTFELT STORY, BUT, BUT ALSO THE, THE CONCRETE SUGGESTIONS, UM, WHICH ARE ALL GOOD.
UH, PARTICULARLY TYING THRESHOLDS TO INFLATION.
SOME OF THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY WITHIN OUR CONTROL.
UM, BUT, UH, I AM SYMPATHETIC TO IT AND, UH, I'VE ACTUALLY WORKED A LITTLE BIT TRYING TO GET ELDERLY RELIEF IN THE COUNTY, UH, IN RELATION TO SANITARY DISTRICT FEES.
AND, UH, I'LL JUST POINT OUT THAT, UM, IT IS HARD AND A SLOW PACE TO AFFECT CHANGE AT, ON A PROGRAM LIKE THAT.
UH, SO, UH, IT'S NOT A REASON TO SET CONCERNS ASIDE, BUT IT, I JUST WANT TO SET REAL REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS THAT IF, IF WE DO TRY TO ACT ON THIS, IT WILL TAKE A LOT OF TIME.
UM, I DO THINK YOUR SUGGESTION FOR BOARD MEMBERS TO, TO VISIT AND TALK TO THE SENIORS IS, IS WELL TAKEN.
SO, UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UH, ON THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF, OF MAY 13TH, I DID WATCH THE VIDEO.
UM, I DID FIND SEVERAL THINGS ABOUT IT CONCERNING, UM, I WENT AND SPOKE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER FOR MY DISTRICT, THE SHENANDOAH DISTRICT, UH,
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WHO WAS MR. GORDON.UM, AND WE HAD A GOOD TALK ABOUT, UH, THE SITUATION.
UM, I DON'T AGREE WITH HIM ON EVERYTHING, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT HE IS COMING AT IT, FIRST OF ALL, RESPECTFULLY, UM, CIVILLY, UH, METHODICALLY AND OBJECTIVELY.
AND SO I, I THANK HIM FOR THAT.
UM, AS FAR AS, UH, THE, THE OVERALL ISSUE, I'M VERY TUNED IN TO THE COMMUNITY AND, AND LISTENING.
SO THANK YOU MR. YEAH, BRIEFLY.
EXCUSE ME BRIEFLY, UM, JUST TO FOLLOW UP WHAT MR. STEINMEYER SAID, AS FAR AS MR. MOTON, UM, I DID GET YOUR EMAIL, I READ IT, I SAW YOU DID COPY THE, UM, COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE, UH, I THINK SHE WAS OUT TODAY.
BUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS, WHILE THEY HAVE SOME MERIT, WE JUST MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
I THINK, I THINK WE INCREASED THE, UM, I THINK WE DID THE, THE PARAMETERS FOR, FOR PEOPLE AND I THINK IT COMES INTO A PERCENTAGE AND, AND, AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING WORTH LOOKING INTO.
AGAIN, SOME OF THOSE THINGS WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO 'CAUSE IT'S RULED BY THE STATE.
THEY GIVE US THE, UH, THE GO AHEAD WITH THAT.
UM, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MR. HENRY SAID, UM, I WAS AT THE MEETING, I WAS THERE.
I DIDN'T STAY FOR THE WHOLE THING, BUT I WAS THERE ROUGHLY 45 MINUTES.
AND MY OBSERVATIONS WAS BASICALLY THAT THE, UH, GENERAL PUBLIC AND WHAT I SAW, THEY WERE RESPECTFUL AND THEY MADE THEIR POINTS.
UM, AND RESPECT IS A TWO WAY STREET.
AND IF SOME OF THOSE THINGS WERE SAID, I THINK IT WAS UNFORTUNATE.
AND I KNOW THAT MR. HENRY'S ALREADY SAID HE'LL SPEAK TO HIS, HIS MEMBER AND WE NEED TO LISTEN AND WE NEED TO, UM, CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THIS.
THE OTHER THING IS, SIDEBAR, SOMEBODY MENTIONED SOMETHING TO, I DON'T KNOW, I, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY VIOLATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT I DON'T KNOW, THEY, THEY SUGGESTED IT.
MAYBE THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE TO OR NOT GO THROUGH FOIA TRAINING.
DOES THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE TO GO THROUGH FOIA? UM, NO, THEY DON'T.
I MEAN, THEY COULD, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE FOR THEM TO, UH, CONSIDER DOING THAT.
UM, SO THE OTHER THING IS, AND I THINK LIKE THE WAY IT WORKS, BASICALLY, AND I, AGAIN, I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION WITH PEOPLE THINKING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS GOING TO ADOPT, UH, THE TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THAT.
AND THEY WERE JUST ONLY, UH, PUTTING IT OUT FOR A ADVERTISING.
UM, AND AGAIN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY LOOK AT APPLICANTS THAT COME FORWARD AND THEY BASICALLY LOOK TO SEE IF WHAT THEY'RE PRESENTING, IF IT FITS THE COMP PLAN, IF IT FITS THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT WHEN IT REACHES THEIR LEVEL.
THE PARAMETERS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPANDED AND WE CAN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION OTHER THINGS.
UM, AS FAR AS THE, THE LIMIT ON SPEAKING, I'M NOT GONNA, I CAN'T REALLY ADDRESS THAT.
HOWEVER, ALL THESE THINGS, AND I THINK THERE'S TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
ONE WAS FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT AND THE OTHER WAS FOR AN APPLICANT.
SO THERE'S TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS RIGHT THERE REGARDING DATA CENTERS.
AND ONCE A PUBLIC HEARING IS HELD, AND SOME OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW THIS, IT'S OPENED UP JUST LIKE US, THERE IS NO OVERALL TIME LIMIT FOR HOW LONG THE PUBLIC HEARING CAN GO ON.
THERE IS A TIME LIMIT OF THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHERE I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO COME OUT AND VOICE THEIR OPINION.
AND THEN ONCE THEY GET THROUGH WITH THAT, THEY WILL, IT WILL COME TO OUR BOARD WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
AND AGAIN, WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON EACH ITEM AT THAT TIME.
UM, I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED BECAUSE WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS, AND I KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW THAT THERE'S BEEN TWO MEMBERS HAVE COME OUT PUBLICLY SAYING THEY'RE AGAINST DATA CENTERS.
AND I'M JUST AFRAID IF ONE OTHER MEMBER ON THE BOARD COMES OUT AGAINST THAT, IT'LL MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THIS BOARD HAS ALREADY MADE UP THEIR MIND.
AND WE, UM, ABBREVIATED THE PROCESS AND PEOPLE COULD SEE THAT AS BEING ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS.
AND THAT COULD OPEN UP TO SOME LEGAL, I KNOW THAT, UM, MEMBER OF THE TOWN COUNCIL QUOTED IN THE PAPER THAT, SO WE GET SUED.
UH, WE'VE GOT INSURANCE TO COVER IT.
I'M NOT SURE IF THE INSURANCE WOULD COVER IT, AND
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I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FINAL OUTCOME WOULD BE.AND I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA GET INTO THAT.
I WANNA BE ABLE TO LOOK AT ALL THE INFORMATION THAT'S AVAILABLE FROM THE PUBLIC AND, AND, AND, AND GO FROM THERE.
UM, INSURANCE, THIS IS NOT, I'M SORRY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE AGAIN, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THE PLAN.
UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A WORK SESSION ON THESE ITEMS, AND THAT WILL BE A PUBLIC MEETING.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THAT WORK SESSION.
BUT THERE WILL BE, AS MENTIONED, ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.
PLUS, YOU KNOW, FEEL FREE, AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE DONE THAT, UH, EMAIL, THE PLANNING COMMISSION EMAIL, THE BOARD SUPERVISORS, AND, UM, I WILL TRY TO CONFIRM THAT I'VE RECEIVED YOUR EMAIL, BUT I DON'T, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH YOU CAN PUT INTO WORDS SOMETIMES AND GO BACK AND FORTH.
I MUCH WOULD RATHER HAVE A CONVERSATION.
AND I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF THOSE AND THEY WERE VERY CIVIL AND I LEARNED SOME THINGS AND HOPEFULLY THEY HAD, UH, UH, LEARNED SOME THINGS TOO.
OH, THE OTHER THING TOO WAS, I KNOW THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT TOO, AND MAYBE MR. HENRY, UH, SPOKE ABOUT THAT, BUT THERE WERE SOME THOUGHTS OUT THERE AS FAR AS COULD WE NOT JUST BAN, UH, DATA CENTERS.
I DON'T KNOW AS SOMETHING THAT, THAT NOT, NOT, NOT TONIGHT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT OUR LEGAL COUNSEL COULD LOOK INTO FURTHER AND GET BACK TO US.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN OR NOT.
I HAVE A FEELING WE CAN'T BECAUSE IT'S, AGAIN, WE COME UNDER THE, THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA AND THE, UM, AND THE DYLAN RULE.
BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, COULD CERTAINLY BE LOOKED AT.
UM, SO THAT'S, I THINK ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON THAT.
UM, SO THE OTHER THINGS I HAD, AND I'M TAKE THIS ONE NEXT, UM, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT'S COME TO US IN THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS UP ON HIGH TOP ROAD, AND THEY'VE SAID THAT, UH, THEY'VE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THEIR WELLS.
THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD TAKE A SHOWER IN THE MORNING, EVERYTHING WAS FINE.
THEY GET HOME, IT'D BE MORE OR LESS A DRIBBLE.
AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE 50 LOTS OR SO OF NEW HOUSING.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF, I DON'T REALLY THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO BECAUSE THESE LOTS ARE PLATTED OFF 50 YEARS AGO AND THEY'RE ALREADY ON THE BOOKS.
HOWEVER, I THINK THIS WOULD BE AN OPTION OR AN OPPORTUNITY MAYBE ON TUESDAY THE FOURTH TO HAVE A WORK SESSION TO DISCUSS THIS IN, IN, IN MORE DETAIL.
AND, UH, AND, AND PROBABLY HAVE THAT VIDEOTAPED TOO.
I MEAN, IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO, I WOULD CERTAINLY BE WILLING TO LOOK AT THAT.
AND AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, UH, THE STATE OF VIRGINIA STATEWIDE IS ALREADY IN A DROUGHT, AND I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE SLIVER RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STATE AND THEY'RE IN EXTREME DROUGHT.
SO WATER IS A, A, IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
UM, TOURISM, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE TOWN REGARDING THAT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S PROGRESSING.
UH, I KNOW WE HAVE A JOINT MEETING ON JUNE 4TH WITH THE TOWN COUNCIL TO DISCUSS IT IN MORE DETAIL.
UM, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT WORK SESSION SO WE CAN GET A, SO WE CAN HAVE A GOOD FEEL ON WHAT THE BOARD WANTS TO DO MOVING FORWARD.
I HAVE A FEW THOUGHTS ON THAT.
UM, AND WE MAY NEED TO JUST, IF, YOU KNOW, IF THEY THINK THEY'RE WORTHWHILE, WE COULD PURSUE THAT.
IF NOT, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
IT'S WHATEVER THE MAJORITY AGREES TO DO.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ON A WORK SESSION JUNE 2ND AS WELL.
AND I'M NOT SURE WHEN YOUR NEXT MEETING IS, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE MEETING WITH THE TOWN COUNCIL, SO I THINK WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AS A BOARD AND DISCUSS WHAT WE EXPECT FROM TOURISM AND HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
I THINK TOURISM IS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
IT IS IMPORTANT THOUGH, I THINK ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS FAR AS BRINGING IN BUSINESSES, COMMERCIAL JOBS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT TOO.
AND I, I THINK WE'RE, UH, I THINK WE'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS ON THAT.
THE LAST THING I HAVE IS WE'VE GOTTEN THROUGH OUR BUDGET AND THE WHOLE THING, AND WE, THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED SOMEWHAT BEFORE.
AND THERE AGAIN, ANOTHER WORK SESSION ITEM.
I THINK WE NEED TO DECIDE HOW, WHEN WE'RE GONNA START TO SEARCH FOR A PERMANENT ADMINISTRATOR.
I THINK NOW IS A GOOD TIME OF THE YEAR BECAUSE A LOT OF ADMINISTRATORS ARE, ARE CHANGING JOBS.
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LOOKING TO MOVE UP THE LADDER OR THEY'RE LOOKING TO, UH, UH, THEY'VE HAD A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION WITH THEIR ELECTED BOARD.SO THERE MAY BE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WEREN'T AVAILABLE PREVIOUSLY THAT ARE AVAILABLE NOW.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AS A BOARD AND DECIDE HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND MY SUGGESTION IS WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO WE CAN GET THIS IN PLACE.
AND I'M SORRY I WENT ON, BUT THERE AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE, YOU CAN EMAIL ME AND I'LL TRY TO RESPOND BACK.
YEAH, I, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT EMAILS, WHY EVERYBODY'S SITTING HERE.
OH, 'CAUSE THIS PART OF IT WAS NEW TO ME FROM WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS.
OH, IF THE EMAIL WAS DIRECTED DIRECTLY TOWARDS ME, I FELT VERY COMFORTABLE RESPONDING.
BUT TYPICALLY WHEN THE EMAIL'S ADDRESSED TO THE ENTIRE BOARD, OH, I KNOW IF MORE THAN TWO OF US RESPOND, IT'S KIND OF LIKE AN ILLEGAL MEETING OR WHATEVER.
OH, IS IT OKAY TO NOT REPLY? SHOULD I JUST LEAVE THOSE EMAILS ALONE, OR, OR CAN I JUST REPLY DIRECTLY TO THE PERSON THAT IT WAS A COUPLE OF 'EM I'VE LIKED TO RESPONDED TO, BUT 'CAUSE IT WAS ADDRESSED TO ALL OF US, I WASN'T COMFORTABLE DOING IT.
YEAH, YOU THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO COPY YOUR FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS ON YOUR RESPONSE BECAUSE THEN PEOPLE START GOING BACK AND FORTH AND IT COULD BE DEEMED TO BE AN ELECTRONIC MEETING THAT WAS NOT PROPERLY NOTICED.
AND I MEAN, YOU CAN'T HAVE ELECTRONIC MEETINGS IN VIRGINIA ANYWAY.
SO YEAH, YOU CAN DEFINITELY RESPOND, BUT YOU COULD JUST RE NOT RESPOND TO ALL, JUST, JUST RESPOND TO THE INDIVIDUAL THAT I'M OKAY.
I JUST WANTED TO MA I DIDN'T WANT TO.
I HAD MY FOIA TRAINING, I PROMISE I DID, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW, I WASN'T SURE EXACTLY HOW TO ADDRESS THAT.
AND I THINK I'VE ALWAYS BEEN CAREFUL WITH THAT AS FAR AS RESPONDING JUST TO THE PERSON THAT SENT THE EMAIL WITHOUT COPYING THE REST OF THE BOARD.
AND I THINK EVEN ON THE EMAILS THAT WE GET, I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE MESSAGE IT SAYS RIGHT THERE, DO NOT REPLY ALL.
AND I KNOW ALSO IT'S EASY TO HIT THE WRONG BUTTON.
SOMETIMES THAT'S VERY EASY 'CAUSE IT COMES UP, REPLY ALL, REPLY TO THIS PERSON OR WHATEVER.
IF WE HIT THE WRONG ONE UNINTENTIONALLY, IT COULD MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THAT.
SO I JUST THROW THAT IN AS WELL.
NOW I, IT'S, IT'S THE EASY THING TO DO, BUT, UM, JUST WANNA RUN DOWN SOME OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT I'VE DONE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AND GIVE SOME ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS.
UM, ON MAY 6TH, I ATTENDED THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING.
AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO START, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE NEVER GONE TO A SCHOOL BOARD MEETING, START GOING, IT'S, YOU LEARN A LOT.
UM, AND IT, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS LIKE MR. JENKINS HAD, UM, YOU, YOU CAN GET THOSE ANSWERS.
IF YOU GO TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING, UH, YOU CAN JUST SIT AND LISTEN OR YOU CAN GET UP LIKE YOU DO HERE.
THEY HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AS WELL.
UM, ON MAY 9TH, UH, WE HAD A COUPLE EVENTS THAT I JUST WANNA RECOGNIZE, UH, BECAUSE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT WENT INTO IT, THE WINGS AND WHEELS AT THE AIRPORT, UM, MR. BARRY, YOU GUYS, UM, THAT WHOLE TEAM OUT THERE DID A REALLY NICE JOB.
THERE WAS, UM, A LOT OF COOL AIRPLANES AND CARS AND IT WAS JUST A, A REALLY NICE EVENT IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN OUT TO THE AIRPORT.
I WAS ONE THAT THOUGHT IT WAS A HOBBY HOUSE AND DIDN'T SEE ITS GREAT VALUE.
UM, NOW THAT I'VE EDUCATED MYSELF A LITTLE MORE, I LEARNED IT.
UM, THERE'S A, A LOT OF, UM, GOOD OPPORTUNITIES FOR TOURISM AND OTHER THINGS FOR THE COUNTY THERE.
ALSO, THERE WAS FAMILY FUN DAY DOWN ON MAIN STREET, AND THAT'S ALWAYS A NICE EVENT.
UM, A LOT OF THINGS THERE FOR KIDS IN ALL THIS TIME.
ATTENDED THE LOS SAMUELS LIBRARY BOARD MEETING ON MAY 11TH, AND THEN WENT TO THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.
THEIR WORK SESSION AFTER THAT MAY 12TH WAS POLICE.
UM, THAT WAS POLICE MEMORIAL WEEK AND THE ACADEMY THAT INSTRUCTS ALL OF OUR, UM, UP AND COMING LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS PUTS ON A YEARLY, UM, MEMORIAL FOR THOSE THAT WERE KILLED IN ACTION IN OUR SURROUNDING AREA.
AND IT'S JUST, UH, IT'S NICE TO KNOW THOSE OFFICERS HAVE NOT BEEN FORGOTTEN.
UM, I ATTENDED THE MAY, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION ON MAY 13TH AS WELL.
AND ON MAY 14TH, UM, MICHAEL WILLIAMS, UH, ALWAYS HAS A LITTLE EVENT WITH EARLY ACT, ROTARY EARLY ACT AT E WILSONS AND MORRISON, UH, FOR MEMORIAL, UH, TO REMEMBER THOSE, UH, VETERANS.
AND I ATTENDED THE EMPTY BOWL, WHICH IS A FUNDRAISER FOR THE HOUSE OF HOPE, UM, HERE.
AND THAT WAS A REALLY NICE EVENT AS WELL.
MAY 18TH, I, YESTERDAY I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVIEW, UM, FFA STUDENTS AT SCOTLAND HIGH SCHOOL FOR LEADERSHIP
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POSITIONS, UH, PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT, SECRETARY TREASURER, THAT KIND OF THING.THAT IS SUCH AN AWESOME PROGRAM TO TRY TO KEEP AGRICULTURE ALIVE IN WARREN COUNTY.
UM, AND THOSE KIDS, THEY'RE JUST AMAZING STUDENTS.
UM, THEY DO ABOVE AND BEYOND THEIR ACADEMICS.
THEY, THERE'S A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS AND THINGS FOR THEM TO DO, TO BE MEMBERS AND TO GET LEADERSHIP POSITIONS.
SO YOU WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO ALL THE GOOD THINGS THEY'RE DOING.
UM, I THINK IN ASSISTANT CHIEF MADA, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME IN THERE, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THIS IS, UM, EMERGENCY RESPONDER WEEK, I BELIEVE.
SO HOPEFULLY NO ONE NEEDS TO CALL 9 1 1, BUT IF YOU DO IT, UH, WE APPRECIATE ALL OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS OUT THERE, BOTH PAID AND VOLUNTEER.
UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS TO MENTION ON, UH, WHAT HAPPENED ON, YOU KNOW, IT, IT WAS UNFORTUNATE THAT THE MEETING DIDN'T GO AS WELL AS WHAT I APPRECIATE TONIGHT IS GOING, UM, I ALWAYS WANNA HEAR PEOPLE.
I'VE SAT HERE, I THINK OUR LONGEST MEETING, I STARTED TODAY AT ABOUT ONE O'CLOCK HERE AND ON DECEMBER 10TH OF LAST YEAR, UH, 24 I GUESS, OR SO, WE WENT TO 1 55 IN THE MORNING.
SO, UM, I DON'T MIND SITTING IN LONG MEETINGS TO HEAR YOU.
AND IF WE HAVE TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ELECTED TO SIT UP HERE AND DO.
SO, UM, I ALWAYS ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COME OUT, SIGN UP AND SPEAK.
AND I NEVER LIKE TO SHUT PEOPLE DOWN, BUT I DO HAVE TO, I'M A, I'M A RULE FOLLOWER AS MUCH AS I CAN BE, BUT I WOULD, I LIKE TO MAKE A REQUEST THAT IF YOU DO HAVE QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, OR WANNA GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS, REACH OUT TO US BY EMAIL.
MY PHONE NUMBER'S OUT HERE FOR EVERYBODY, YOU'RE WELCOME TO CALL.
IF I DON'T ANSWER, LEAVE A MESSAGE, I'LL GET BACK TO YOU.
IT'S MUCH BETTER THAN DOING IT ON FACEBOOK.
FACEBOOK IS, IT'S, I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOTTEN TO BE THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL.
UM, IT'S A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE JUST FEEL FREE TO PUT OUT ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT LOOKING YOU IN THE FACE WHEN THEY'RE DOING IT.
AND SOME PEOPLE FEEL VERY FREE ABOUT LOOKING YOU IN THE FACE AND DOING IT, WHICH IS FINE.
UM, BUT IF YOU WANT HONEST ANSWERS, REACH OUT TO US.
I, I'M NOT GONNA LIE TO YOU, YOU KNOW, I'LL GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION I CAN IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T SPEAK ON AT THE MOMENT BECAUSE IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS, I'LL TELL YOU THAT I, YOU KNOW, BUT DON'T RELY ON WHAT YOU SEE ON FACEBOOK.
UM, IT'S, THERE'S A LOT OF HONESTY ON THERE.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S NOT, BUT NOT ALL OF IT IS.
AND, AND A LOT OF WHAT I'VE SEEN LATELY IS JUST, IT'S UNFAIR.
IT GETS EVERYONE WORKED UP AND UPSET UNNECESSARILY, UH, WHEN YOU CAN REACH RIGHT OUT TO US.
UM, AS FAR AS, UM, SPEAKING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON, UH, YOUR CONCERNS, I, I TRUST, UH, OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR OR ACTING PLANNING, INTERIM PLANNING DIRECTOR, MRS. WALL.
UM, SHE'S VERY PROFESSIONAL AND I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE HER AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN AND GO OVER, YOU KNOW, HOW THINGS WENT AND, YOU KNOW, HOW THINGS CAN BE IMPROVED AND WHATEVER INVOLVEMENT SHE WANTS FROM US, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO SIT IN ON.
UM, MY PLANNING DIRECTOR WAS NOT THERE THAT NIGHT, UNFORTUNATELY.
HER MOTHER JUST PASSED AWAY, SO THAT'S WHY SHE WASN'T HERE.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT IS THE ROUTE I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE AT THIS TIME.
I THINK THAT'S JUST THE APPROPRIATE WAY, UM, TO HANDLE IT AT THIS POINT.
AS FAR AS TOURISM, UM, I'M MORE THAN WELCOME TO HEAR ANYBODY'S INPUT ON THAT.
UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANNA HAVE A MEETING ON JUNE 2ND, AND THEN FOR US AND THEN THE JOINT MEETING ON THE FOURTH, THAT'S FINE.
UM, AND AS FAR AS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, AND DEFINITELY THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALL HAVE ON THE BACK, UH, BURNER OF WHEN WE NEED TO DO THAT.
WE WANTED TO GET THROUGH THE BUDGET AND WE ARE, AS FAR AS THE TAXES, I, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A VERY PAINFUL THING.
UM, I HATED RAISING TAXES THAT MUCH, BUT I THINK WE ALL LOOK AT THE PRICE OF GAS, GAS ALONE.
IT IS GONE UP AND IT'S SCARY TO THINK OF WHAT THE PRICE OF GAS MAY BE BEFORE
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THE WORLD SETTLES DOWN, IF IT, IF IT EVER DOES.UM, BUT WE'VE GOT FIRE TRUCKS, RESCUE SQUADS, SCHOOL BUSES, UH, POLICE, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT STAFF THAT VEHICLES ARE, SOME OF THEM ARE GOING 24 7.
JUST THAT WOULD CAUSE A NEED TO BUMP UP, YOU KNOW, FUEL COSTS, ELECTRIC COSTS, WE'RE ALL, WE'RE ALL HAVING THAT PAIN.
UM, BEING COMPETITIVE TO KEEP OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, OUR TEACHERS, OUR COUNTY STAFF, WHEN THEY CAN GO TO FREDERICK COUNTY OR ANY OF THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES AND NOT BE THAT FAR AWAY AND GET MUCH BETTER PAY.
SO WE'VE GOT TO KEEP COMPETITIVE TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.
SO GIVING INCREASES, THAT'S, THAT'S A COST INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR BUILDINGS AND SO FORTH.
UM, WE, WE LEVEL FUNDED FOR TOO MANY YEARS TRYING NOT TO RAISE TAXES.
AND WITH THE, THE INFLATION AND THE COST OF EVERYTHING THAT'S GONE UP, WE JUST COULDN'T DO THAT AGAIN.
AND AS PAINFUL AS IT WAS, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT'S WE, WE DUG AND WE DUG DEEP TO TRY NOT TO RAISE THOSE.
UM, WE JUST COULDN'T DIG ANY DOWN ANY FURTHER WITHOUT CUTTING SERVICES.
AND I'VE ONLY HAD TO CALL THE RESCUE SQUAD A COUPLE OF TIMES IN MY LIFE, BUT I'M TELLING YOU A FEW MINUTES, UM, FELT LIKE FOREVER.
AND I CAN'T, I CAN'T CUT BACK SERVICES LIKE THAT WHEN NONE OF US KNOW WHEN WE'RE GONNA NEED IT.
WE CAN LET A HOUSE BURN IF YOU GET OUT, THAT CAN BE REPLACED.
SO IT WAS, IT WAS A VERY TOUGH DECISION.
UM, AND NONE OF US TOOK THAT LIGHTLY.
AND I'M, I APOLOGIZE THAT WE HAD TO RAISE IT SO HIGH, BUT I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET IT DOWN ANY LOWER.
AND AS FAR AS THE WATER, UM, WE GOT A LITTLE RAIN.
I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYBODY DID.
I THINK WE GOT A A INCH IN BENTONVILLE WHERE I LIVE, WHICH IS A BLESSING 'CAUSE I PLANTED TWO APPLE TREES THIS WEEKEND.
YOU KNOW, IT, IT WAS AMAZING HOW ABSOLUTELY DRY IT IS.
PEOPLE ARE WALKING DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE RIVER RIGHT NOW AS THEY'RE PULLING THEIR RAFTS AND PULLING THEIR INNER TUBES.
AND I'VE LIVED THERE AT THE RIVER FOR 50 YEARS NOW.
AND THE RAIN WE GET HELPS PEOPLE DOWN RIVER.
WHAT PEOPLE GET ABOVE US, AFFECTS US.
SO WHATEVER THEY'RE PULLING OUT OF THE RIVER ABOVE US THAT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER AFFECTS US.
WHATEVER WE DO TO THE RIVER AFFECTS EVERYBODY BELOW US.
SO WE ALL NEED TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE RIVER OF OUR WELLS AND, AND SO FORTH.
JAMESON CAME UP WITH A WATER ORDINANCE, UM, THAT I THINK YOU AND MR. CARTER GOT TOGETHER ON.
AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO WORK WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR LEGAL PEOPLE TO, TO FINE TUNE THAT SO WE CAN HELP AS MUCH AS WE CAN, FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND SO FORTH, AND TRY TO, TO HELP WITH THE, YOU KNOW, BEING CAUTIOUS WITH OUR, OUR WELLS AND WATER AND SEPTIC AND SO FORTH.
BUT IT TAKES, IT TAKES A VILLAGE.
AND I TOLD DR. MARTIN RECENTLY, UM, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WHEN I CAN'T SLEEP, I HAVE IDEAS, NOT SURE THEY'RE ALWAYS GOOD, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE AS A COMMUNITY NEED TO BE A TEAM.
EVERYONE ACHIEVES MORE AND WE NEED TO QUIT FIGHTING EACH OTHER AND ARGUING AND NOT, AND TRUST IS A HARD THING.
AND TRUST ME, I DON'T TRUST EASILY.
I'M GETTING BETTER ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S A HARD THING FOR ME AS WELL.
BUT YOU TRUST AND VERIFY IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE QUESTIONABLE ON WHAT YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHEN CONTACT US AND VERIFY.
SO I'M GONNA GET OFF MY SOAPBOX.
COULD I, DR. MARTIN, COULD I, YEAH, REAL QUICK, JUST JUMP BACK ON THE TOURISM WORK SESSION OR WHATEVER MS. SCOTT SENT US.
AND THEN I THINK DR. MARTIN SENT THE SPREADSHEET FOR THE MEALS TAX AND THE LODGING TAX, AND I THINK I'VE KIND OF FIGURED IT OUT, BUT WHEN WE HAD THAT CLOSED OR THE NOT CLOSED SESSION WHEN WE HAD THAT WORK SESSION, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, UH, HOW MUCH DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE SITTING THERE THAT'S NOT BEEN EXPENDED? WHAT ARE WE SPENDING MONEY ON AND WHAT DO WE EXPECT TO GET ON
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AN ANNUAL BASIS? SOME OF THAT INFORMATION WAS IN THE, THE, THE SPREADSHEET.SO I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW PRIOR TO THE SECOND WORK SESSION, UH, IF YOU CAN HAVE, OR MS. C**K CAN HAVE THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER.
ALSO MAKE A QUICK AMENDMENT TO MY REPORT.
UH, REGARDING THE WINGS AND WHEELS, I ATTENDED THAT AS WELL AT THE AIRPORT.
AND UH, THAT IS A FANTASTIC EVENT.
THEY'LL DO SOMETHING SIMILAR IN THE FALL AND I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT.
UM, ANOTHER GREAT EVENT COMING UP I WANTED TO MENTION IS, UH, ON MAY 25TH MEMORIAL DAY, UH, AT NOON ON THE FRONT LAWN OF THE COURTHOUSE, THERE'S A MEMORIAL DAY COMMEMORATION CEREMONY.
UH, I'VE ATTENDED THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND IT'S, UH, A SOLEMN CEREMONY, UH, THAT'S VERY BEAUTIFUL AND MOVING AND, UH, IMPORTANT AND IT'S A FAMILY FRIENDLY EVENT.
SO, SO IF YOU CAN MAKE IT, BRING YOUR, BRING BRING YOUR FAMILY.
IT'S, IT'S ABOUT 45 MINUTES, I'D SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
ALSO, UH, MS. MEADOWS ISN'T HERE TO TELL ME THE RIGHT DATE.
OUR RIVER FLOWS THROUGH AT VA TWO 50 FOR THE COMMEMORATION OF THE 250TH BIRTHDAY.
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT OUT AT EASTON PARK.
IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF EVENTS.
UM, I KNOW THERE'S A DUCK RACE WITH THE RIVER, SO, UM, IT'S ALL, IT'S A FREE THING.
IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN OUT TO THE LITTLE PARK THERE, IT'S GONNA BE A GOOD EVENT.
THEY'RE GONNA SHUTTLE PEOPLE BECAUSE PARKING IS AN ISSUE AS PARKING IS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE AREA.
UM, THEY'RE GOING TO, YOU CAN PARK AT SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL AND THEY WILL BUST YOU DOWN TO EASTON PARK AND THEN TAKE YOU BACK TO YOUR CAR WHEN YOU'RE READY.
SO DR. MARTIN, WELL, EACH AND EVERY DAY AS THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, I LEARN SOMETHING NEW AND OUT OF MY WHEELHOUSE.
AS A FORMER SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CHIEF AND DEPUTY CHIEF HAVE BEEN GREAT MENTORS IN ASSISTING TO ME TO NAVIGATE THE MANY FACETS OF FIRE AND RESCUE OPERATIONS.
WE CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ON THE BEST WAY TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE EXCEPTIONAL SERVICES TO THE CHESTER GAP COMMUNITY.
AS WELL AS THE WARREN COUNTY COMMUNITY AT LARGE IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR WAYS IN WHICH TO NOT INCREASE TAXES, BUT YET GROW THE TAX BASE IN THIS COUNTY.
AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE COUNTY WILL ENSURE LONG-TERM TAX GROWTH.
AND BE SURE OUR CURRENT BUSINESSES AND INDUSTRIES REMAIN PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
WE ARE MOVING FORWARD IN THIS ENDEAVOR.
IT IS MY HOPE THAT WE WILL BE ADDING THREE RETAIL SPACES TO THE CORRIDOR IN THE COMING WEEKS.
THERE WILL BE A PRESS RELEASE AND ANNOUNCEMENT.
TOURISM IS ANOTHER AREA OF MY, UH, OUT OF MY WHEELHOUSE.
IT'S BEEN GREAT TO COLLABORATE WITH THE TOWN OF FRONT WORLD AND WAYS TO HIGHLIGHT THIS AMAZING COMMUNITY.
SO OTHERS WILL WANT TO VISIT COUNTY AND TOWN STAFF HAVE BEEN MEETING TO DETERMINE WAYS IN WHICH TO COLLABORATE AND MOVE THE TOURISM MARKERS FORWARD.
AFTER ALL, WHO WOULD NOT WANT TO COME HERE AND WALK IN THE SAME FOOTSTEPS AS KING CHARLES AND QUEEN CAMILLA, I WOULD LIKE TO SING THE PRAISES OF THE AIRPORT COMMISSION FOR A SUCCESSFUL FLY AND EVENT SEVERAL WEEKS AGO.
I WOULD LIKE TO COMPLIMENT THE CHAMBER TOWN TOURISM AND THE COUNTY FOR A WELL ORGANIZED EVENT THIS PAST SATURDAY AT THE CRAFT AND WINE FESTIVAL.
IT WAS A WONDERFUL FAMILY EVENT.
PLEASE PLACE JUNE 4TH MEETING ON YOUR CALENDARS FOR THE NEXT JOINT MEETING BETWEEN THE TOWN COUNCIL AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
WE WILL BE TAKING A TROLLEY RIDE IN THE LATE AFTERNOON TO SITES OF JOINT INTERESTS FOLLOWED BY DINNER AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER BEFORE HAVING THE JOINT MEETING.
THE SUGGESTED AGENDA WILL CENTER AROUND TOURISM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOWING.
WE HOPE TO START THE TOUR AROUND TWO 30 IN THE AFTERNOON.
THE PRESS WILL BE WELCOME TO ATTEND THE TOUR PROCESS.
SOME OF THE TOURS, UH, WILL SIMPLY BE A DRIVE BY WITH AN INFORMED NARRATIVE.
I HAVE NO REPORT, MRS. CHAIRMAN.
UM, I'M OFF MY GAME BECAUSE OF CHA STARTING OUR MEETING AT SIX.
SO, PUBLIC HEARINGS, WE'RE GOOD TO START THOSE AT SEVEN 30.
UH, NO, WE, WE JUST GO THROUGH OUR AGENDA REGULARLY AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE ADVERTISED NECESSARILY FOR SEVEN 30 ANYMORE.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO I COULD GO AHEAD WITH THE REST OF THE BUSINESS AND NOT, YEAH, WE CAN GO AHEAD WITH THE REST OF THE BUSINESS.
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I'M THIS TIMEFRAME.I'LL, I'LL GET IT IN MY HEAD EVENTUALLY AND THEN IT'LL TURN AGAIN, I GUESS.
[F.1. Appropriations and Transfers ]
AGENDA IS APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS.ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ON ANY OF THAT? AND HEARING NONE, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THE APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS AS PRESENTED.
[F.2. Approval of Accounts ]
APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS? ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION? I MADAM CHAIR, MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS AS PRESENTED.MADAM CHAIR, I'M GONNA VOTE NOW BECAUSE I DID NOT HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH THEM THOROUGHLY TODAY.
DO WE WANNA DO THESE INDIVIDUALLY OR AS A GROUP OF THREE? YES.
[G. Approval of Minutes ]
FROM APRIL 22ND.ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, CORRECTIONS ON ANY OF THOSE DATES? HEARING NONE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? APRIL 22ND, APRIL 28TH AND MAY 5TH.
MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE TO APPROVE.
APRIL 22ND, APRIL 28TH AND MAY 5TH.
UH, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.
MR. HENRY, I'M GONNA ABSTAIN 'CAUSE I WAS ACTUALLY MISSING MISS, UH, MR. ONE OF THESE MEETINGS.
[H.1. Secondary Six-Year Plan through the Virginia Department of Transportation - Mike Berry, Public Works Director]
AT PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE ON VDOT SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN.AND I THINK, UH, YOU TWO WERE DEBATING WHO WAS GOING FIRST.
SO I GUESS MR. BARRY WILL GO FIRST AND THEN MR. CARTER WILL FILL IN GETTING MORE MORAL SUPPORT.
YEAH, MR. CARTER HAS THE CLIP.
SO, AND FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT HAVE, UH, MR. CARTER IS OUR RESIDENCY ADMINISTRATOR, RESIDENCY ENGINEER FOR THE EDINBURG EDINBURG RE REGION, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE TONIGHT, SIR.
THANKFUL TO HAVE HIM HERE WITH US TONIGHT.
UM, MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS, UH, VDOT, WARREN COUNTY, UM, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CODE OF VIRGINIA EACH YEAR, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED SIX YEAR PLAN, SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN.
AND THIS WILL BE FOR FISCAL YEARS 2027 TO 2032 AND OUR CONSTRUCTION BUDGET IN WARREN COUNTY.
OF COURSE, YOU HAVE COPIES IN YOUR PACKAGE.
UM, WE DO HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION HERE.
UM, WE MET, I GUESS BACK IN MARCH WITH A TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
WILLIE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHANGES THIS YEAR, AND THEN AGAIN, VDOT WAS HERE WITH YOU IN A WORK SESSION ON MAY 5TH.
UM, I THINK THAT, UM, THE ONLY COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE BOARD WAS IN REGARD TO, UH, PANHANDLE ROAD IN THE FUTURE AND MAKING SURE THAT WAS THERE.
UM, SOME OF YOU WERE HERE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO WHERE WE WENT THROUGH OUR ACTUAL ROAD RATING SYSTEM, UM, THAT WE DEVELOPED AND APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND, AND THAT'S KEPT AT THE PLANNING LEVEL.
UM, AND THAT'S HOW WE EVALUATE THE ROADS ONCE THEY'RE PUT ON THE LIST.
OF COURSE THESE ARE, UH, ALLSTATE ROADS ON THE SECONDARY SYSTEM THAT, UM, ARE, ARE NOT CURRENTLY PAVED.
AND, UM, WE REVIEW THOSE AND, AND THEN VDOT APPLIES THE FUNDING.
UM, WE JUST GET TO TELL THEM, YOU KNOW, THE ORDER OR PREFERENCE AND, UM, I'M GONNA LET MR. CARTER JUMP IN FROM THERE ON THE FUNDING.
YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE, UH, DURING THE WORK SESSION THAT WE HAD WITH YOU, SO I'M JUST GONNA SKIP
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THROUGH TO THE NUMBERS.THEY HAVEN'T CHANGED, BUT, UM, THE, UH, OF COURSE OUR, OUR FUNDING SOURCES FOR THE COUNTIES, FOR ALL OF OUR COUNTIES COME FROM FOR, UH, UNPAVED ROADS, COMES FROM DISTRICT GRANT, UNPAVED ROADS AND TFE FUNDS.
UM, THIS IS WHAT WARREN COUNTY HAS FOR THE NEXT SIX YEARS.
YOU CAN SEE THERE'S VERY LITTLE CHANGE IN IT.
AND THIS IS BASED ON, UH, PROJECTED REVENUES FOR THE STATE.
THEY TELL US HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GOING TO GET AND THAT'S WHAT WE APPLY TO THE COUNTIES.
WHERE'D I GO TOO QUICK? AND, UH, THERE WE GO.
UH, RICHARDSON ROAD IS THE ONE THAT WE'LL BE DOING THIS YEAR.
AND THIS IS BASED ON THE RANKING SYSTEM, WHICH THE COUNTY, UH, PUT TOGETHER, WHICH IS VERY GOOD.
IT MAKES YOU EXPEND YOUR DOLLARS WHERE YOU'RE GONNA GET THE BIGGEST BUYING FOR 'EM.
WARREN COUNTY IS VERY FORTUNATE.
IT'S DOWN TO LESS THAN 40 MILES OF UNPAVED ROAD IN IT NOW.
UH, ONE OF MY COUNTIES HAS 170 IN IT, SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS
SO FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE ROOM, RICHARDSON ROAD WILL START THIS SUMMER.
I'M SORRY, RICHARDSON ROAD IS, IS THAT START ESTIMATED TO START THIS SUMMER? YES.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY LEFT OVER THAT WASN'T USED ON ONE OF THE PROJECTS LAST YEAR.
SO WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED IN RICHARDSON ROAD.
BUT THE MAIN, THE MAIN SOURCE OF FUNDING, YOU SEE THAT CURRENT, THAT 62,260, THAT'S WHAT WAS CARRIED FORWARD.
THEN THE 221,000 TO FINISH IT UP IS COMES AVAILABLE ON JULY THE FIRST OF THIS YEAR.
OUR FISCAL YEAR RUNS FROM JULY THROUGH JUNE.
UH, THE NEXT ONE'S IN LINE ARE MESSICK ROAD, WHICH IS DUE TO START IN FISCAL YEAR 28, WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE SUMMER OF 27TH.
AND THEN POINT ROAD IN, UH, 29, WHICH WOULD BE THE SUMMER OF 28.
THEN JENNINGS LANE, THEN SPEED LANE.
AND THEN THE LAST COLUMN WE HAVE IS COUNTYWIDE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES.
NOW THIS IS MONEY THAT COMES FROM PRIMARILY THE CUMULATIVE TOTALS OF TFE FUNDS.
AND THESE ARE FUNDS THAT WERE NOT DEDICATED AND THE OTHER PROGRAMS COMING FORWARD TO THIS END.
AND THESE ARE FUNDS AS LONG AS WE USE THEM ON SECONDARY ROADS.
GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR PROJECTS THAT JUMP UP UNFORESEEN.
FOR INSTANCE, IF WE GET A PIPE THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, OKAY, WE CAN DO THAT WITH THESE FUNDS OR WE USED SOME OF THESE FUNDS, UH, TO HELP OUT WITH THE ISSUES THAT WE HAD WITH THE FLOODING LAST YEAR.
DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THOSE ISSUES THIS YEAR.
BUT
SO THE TFE FUND, THE COUNTYWIDE TRANSPORTATION TECH, I'M SORRY, THE COUNTYWIDE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES.
WHEN WE GET ADDITIONAL FUNDS, LET'S SAY WE ESTIMATE A JOB TO BE 300,000 FOR RULE RUSTY, IT COMES IN AT 2 75.
THAT 25,000 GOES INTO THIS COUNTYWIDE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES.
IF IT STARTS TO GET BIGGER, UH, THEN THE BOARD CAN HAVE THE, THE OPTION OF SAYING, OKAY, I WANT TO MOVE ONE OF MY OTHER PROJECTS FORWARD WITH THOSE FUNDS ALSO.
SO IT GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY.
AND WE WILL ASK THE BOARD TO, UH, UH, PASS A RESOLUTION, WHICH WE HAVE A SAMPLE.
YOU HAVE THE SAMPLE RESOLUTION.
AND THEN WHEN THAT'S PASSED AND SIGN OFF ON THE CONSTRUCTION SHEET, WE CAN FORWARD THAT THROUGH THE CTB WILL VOTE ON THIS ABOUT MID-JUNE.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MR. HENDERSON, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? UH, YES MA'AM.
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GOOD EVENING.MY NAME IS LOUIS MOTEN FROM THE NORTH RIVER DISTRICT.
UM, I FORGOT I SPOKE ON THIS LAST YEAR AND IT WAS REMINDED WHEN I CAME IN.
SO KUDOS ON NO CHICKEN SCRATCH THIS TIME ON THE DOCUMENTS.
I I THOUGHT THAT WAS GONNA BE MORE THAN WHAT WAS ALREADY PROVIDED TO US OTHER THAN THE COVER PAGE.
UM, I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT EVERYBODY'S DONE ON THIS.
UM, MY CONCERN IS WE'RE SEEING A INCREASE IN RESIDENTIAL GROWTH, TOURISM DELIVERY, TRAFFIC, AND SHORT TERM RENTALS.
SO THE PRO THE, THE, THE TRAFFIC PATTERN HAVE CHANGED OVER TIME.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT CONTINUED EMPHASIS ON ROAD SAFETY, DRAINAGE VISIBILITY, SHOULDERS, SIGNAGE AND MANEUVERABILITY IS INCREASINGLY IMPORTANT.
UM, I APPRECIATE THIS PLANNING PROCESS HELPS POSITION US FOR THE FUTURE FOR STATE AND FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MA'AM FOR SIGNUPS.
WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS SECOND CALL? ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? THIRD AND FINAL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
ARE THERE, IS THERE A MOTION FROM THE BOARD? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE VDOT SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN FOR FISCAL YEARS 2027 TO 2032 AND THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YEAH, I HAD QUESTION AND MAYBE IT WAS A, UH, ANSWERED PREVIOUSLY OR WHATEVER, BUT HOW DO WE COME UP WITH THE I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR.
HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE COME UP WITH THE, THE ROADS THAT ARE ON THE SIX YEAR SECONDARY PLAN? IS IT THE ONES THAT MOST NEED, UH, 'CAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE AND IT LOOKS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY ALL ARE.
IT LOOKS LIKE I DON'T KNOW WHAT DISTRICT, WHICH DOESN'T MATTER.
I WANNA SEE THINGS I'M GOING TO ASK MIKE BECAUSE YOUR, YOUR STAFF PUT IT TOGETHER.
UH, BE SURE I DON'T MISS ANYTHING, BUT CERTAINLY VOLUME IS ONE, RIGHT? OKAY.
THAT MEANS HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE, YOU KNOW, WE SPEND AN DULY AMOUNT ON IT THEN, UH, THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTS THAT YOU HAVE ON THE ROAD.
THAT, THAT'S ALL I WAS ASKING AS FAR AS THERE NO, THAT'S FINE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ONES WITH THE MOST NEED.
AND THAT SOUNDS LIKE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.
YOU'VE ANSWERED THE QUESTION AND GO SIT DOWN.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.
NOW WE, UM, MR. CARTER, WHAT, THREE YEARS AGO? I'M SORRY, ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO.
YOU BROUGHT THIS, UM, ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO.
IT A RATING INSTEAD OF IT TAKES US OUT OF IT.
WE, WE GET CALLS FROM CONSTITUENTS ABOUT ROADS.
THEY HAVE A RATING SYSTEM AND THAT'S HOW THEY GET PRIORITIZED.
THEN WE SEND YOU THE LIST WITH THE RATINGS ON IT AND THEN IF THERE'S NO CHANGES, THEN WE SIMPLY DO NOT.
I WAS JUST REITERATING JUST TO MAKE SURE I DID HAVE A COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING IN THE WHOLE THING.
SO, UH, UH, THREE OF MY FOUR COUNTIES HAVE A RANK A RANKING SYSTEM.
AND IT, IT LIKE, UH, UH, CHAIRMAN ER SAID IT REMOVES THE POLITICS FROM IT INSTEAD OF FIGHTING.
YOU KNOW, THIS AND THAT AND THE OTHER.
YOU'RE ABLE TO TELL YOUR CONSTITUENTS, I'VE GOT A DOLLAR TO SPEND.
THIS IS WHERE I'M GOING TO GET MY BIGGEST VALUE FOR THAT DOLLAR.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
[H.2. CUP2026-03-01 - Church - 0 Russ Johnson Road - A request for a conditional use permit for a church. The property is located at 0 Russ Johnson Road and is identified on tax map 28R, section 2, as lot 4. The property is zoned Agricultural (A) and is located in the Fork Magisterial District. - Kelly Wahl , Interim Planning Director ]
NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS CUP 2026 DASH OH THREE DASH OH ONE A CHURCH AT ZERO REST JOHNSON ROAD, A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A CHURCH LOCATED AT ZERO REST.UH, JOHNSON ROAD IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 20 A R, SECTION TWO AS LOT FOUR.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL AND IS LOCATED IN THE FORK MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT MRS. WALL.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
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FOR A CHURCH FOR A PROPERTY IDENTIFIED ON 28 R SECTION TWO AS LAW FOUR, WHICH IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY SOUTH FORK RIVERSIDE CAMPGROUND, LLC.THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY WITH THE 4,800 SQUARE FOOT CHURCH AND ASSOCIATED PARKING AREAS.
A CONCEPTUAL SKETCH PLAT PREPARED BY JOSEPH BROGAN JR.
WAS SUBMITTED WITH THIS APPLICATION AND SHOWS THE PROPOSED CHURCH AND PARKING LOT.
THE APPLICANT PLANS TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY TO ALLOW FOR A CAPACITY OF 80 PEOPLE WITH SERVICES PRIMARILY HELD ON SUNDAYS AND OCCASIONAL WEEKDAY EVENING MEETINGS.
THE PROPERTY IS PROPOSED TO BE ACCESSED FROM RUS JOHNSON ROAD, WHICH IS REGULATED AND MAINTAINED BY THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
THIS PROPERTY HAS NOT HAD ANY PREVIOUS CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS ISSUED.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS AREA TO BE USED FOR RESIDENTIAL AND AGRICULTURAL LAND.
USES A CHURCH IS A USE ALLOWED BY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT AND IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE CURRENT WARREN COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE.
THERE ARE NO SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS IN THE WARREN COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE FOR A CHURCH.
RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS ARE BASED ON COMMENTS RECEIVED BY WARREN COUNTY BUILDING OFFICIAL WARREN COUNTY FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES, TOWN OF FRONT ROYAL PUBLIC WORKS AND STATE AGENCIES.
THE APPLICANT SHALL MEET COUNTY ZONING REQUIREMENTS FOR OFF STREET PARKING AND OUTDOOR LIGHTING.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 8TH, 2026 ON A MOTION MADE BY MR. KERS, SECONDED BY MR. GORDON.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARDED THIS PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AS RECOMMEND WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF BY A VOTE OF FOUR TO ZERO.
PLANNING, COMMISSION AND STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO APPROVE.
NUMBER ONE, THE CHAPEL OCCUPANCY SHALL NOT EXCEED THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS DETERMINED BY THE VIRGINIA UNIFORM STATEWIDE BUILDING CODE AND VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH APPROVAL FOR AN ONSITE SEWAGE DISPOSAL SYSTEM, WHICHEVER IS FEWEST.
NUMBER TWO, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND VIRGINIA STATEWIDE FIRE PREVENTION CODE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.
NUMBER THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL SUBMIT A SITE PLAN SHOWING PARCEL BOUNDARIES, PROPOSED BUILDING FOOTPRINTS, DIMENSIONS OF PROPOSED BUILDINGS, SETBACKS FROM BUILDINGS TO NEAREST PROPERTY BOUNDARIES, INGRESS AND EGRESS INTERNAL ACCESS ROADS, OUTDOOR LIGHTING, PARKING, INCLUDING HANDICAP PARKING AND PUBLIC UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE EASEMENTS OR PRIVATE WELL SEPTIC AND DRAIN FIELD LOCATIONS TO THE COUNTY.
PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF BUILDING AND ZONING PERMITS, THE APPLICANT SHALL MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF WARREN COUNTY CODE SUBSECTION 180 DASH 15 FOR OFF STREET PARKING FOR A CHURCH AND CODE ONE SUBSECTION 180 DASH 49.2 FOR LIGHTING.
FINALLY, THE APPLICANT SHALL MEET ALL PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS AND COMPLETE THE NECESSARY ENTRANCE IMPROVEMENTS AS IDENTIFIED AND RECOMMENDED BY VDOT PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE STRUCTURE BY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED THE APPLICANT AND MEMBERS OF THE CONGREGATION ARE HERE WITH US THIS EVENING.
IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO, YOU'RE WELCOME TO WAY THE APPLICANT FOR WHICH WAY? OH, I'LL BRING IT DOWN.
UM, MY PARENTS RESIDE IN THE FOURTH DISTRICT AND SO, UM, I'M ACTUALLY THE PASTOR'S DAUGHTER.
MY DAD IS SITTING NEXT TO ME AND, UM, SO I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS, BUT I, WE WANT TO KEEP THE LAND AS NATURAL AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE I'VE LIVED IN FRONT ROYAL ALMOST MY ENTIRE LIFE.
I'VE WATCHED IT GROW, I'VE WATCHED IT.
HONESTLY, IT'S KIND OF SAD SOMETIMES, BUT I'VE WATCHED HOW A LOT OF THE TREES HAVE COME DOWN.
BUT MY PARENTS AND I, ESPECIALLY OUR CHURCH, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS ALL GOD'S CREATION AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT AS NATURAL AS POSSIBLE.
WE WANT TO COMPLY WITH THE RULES.
WE WANT TO FOLLOW EVERYTHING THAT'S IN ORDER BECAUSE THE WAY THAT GOD AND THE HOLY SPIRIT WORKS IS ORDER.
AND SO, UM, WE ARE JUST REALLY GRATEFUL AND WE EVEN SPOKE AS A CHURCH, THAT WHATEVER THE DECISION IS, GOD WILL ALWAYS GET THE GLORY NO MATTER WHAT, IF IT'S A YES OR A NO.
AND SO, UM, I'M SORRY I'M GETTING A LITTLE
WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP YOUTH AND JUST TRYING TO KEEP YOUTH, UM, JUST INFLUENCING THEM IN THE, IN THE RIGHT, IN THE RIGHT WAYS AND JUST MAKING, MAKING SURE THAT GOD
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IS IN THE CENTER OF EVERYTHING.AND SO, UM, I APPRECIATE, UM, WHATEVER YOU GUYS HAVE DECIDED.
LIKE I SAID, THE GLORY WILL BE TO GOD NO MATTER WHAT.
AND SO WITH THAT, I THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING OUR APPLICATION.
MR. HENDERSON, IS ANYBODY SIGNED UP? YES, MA'AM.
MY NAME IS LOUIS MOTON OF THE NORTH RIVER DISTRICT.
THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD SPEECH.
UM, YOU KNOW, I USED TO LIVE IN WOODBRIDGE WHEN WE HAD WOODS EVERYWHERE, SO I, I LOVE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO KEEP WHAT'S WHAT BELONGS THERE.
UM, THIS IS NOT A PLACE THAT I GO, BUT I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE OF FAITH TO HAVE A PLACE TO GATHER, WATCH, WATCH AND BUILD COMMUNITY.
AND JUST SEEING A NEW, WELL THEY'VE BEEN AROUND, BUT JUST SEEING THEM EXPAND AND GET A PLACE TO BREATHE OUT IN THE COUNTRY IS REALLY INSPIRING TO SEE FAITH IS GROWING AROUND HERE.
UM, SO IT, IT'S A MODEST PROPOSAL THAT'S ALREADY GONE THROUGH A LOT OF, A LOT OF PLANNING AND RIGOROUS AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO E EVEN THOUGH THERE'S LEGITIMATE CONCERNS ON THE ROAD ACCESS WITH DISTANCE, I, I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH EVERYBODY TO GET THIS, UM, TAKEN CARE OF.
SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE MY SUPPORT FOR THIS, UM, THIS LITTLE COMMUNITY HERE OR THIS, THIS, UH, CONGREGATION.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR SIGNUPS MA'AM.
WILL ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SECOND CALL.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? YES SIR.
HELLO, HOW YOU DOING? MY NAME IS LUIS GUTIERREZ.
UM, I'M BEEN LIVING HERE LIKE, UH, 15 YEARS.
THERE WAS A REASON WHY I DON'T WANT TO MOVE TO THIS PLACE.
AND IT WAS THE WAY THE PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THIS TOWN.
I MOVE HERE 'CAUSE SOME SITUATIONS AND I'M GLAD I DID.
MY WIFE IS RIGHT NOW IN THE HOSPITAL.
SHE GOT A SURGERY, I LEFT HER THERE.
THAT'S HOW IMPORTANT IS THIS FOR US.
WE WANNA BE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS WELL DONE.
WE WANNA HELP THE COMMUNITY, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THE SERVICE PROVIDE, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO HELP THIS COMMUNITY.
HE SAID FOR LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THESE PEOPLE, UM, KING AND QUEEN CAME AND ALL THAT YOU READ UNDER WAS LOW LIFE.
UH, HELL TOWN CRACK DEALERS AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS TOWN IS.
WE NEED TO MAKE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THIS TOWN IS MORE THAN MELTING POT AND SKYLINE DRIVE.
UM, PEOPLE CAN COME HERE SAFE.
OUR KIDS NEED TO RAISE HERE AND BE, AND I MEAN WE HAVE SO MANY PROBLEMS AND I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE QUEEN AND KING.
MY QUEEN IS IN THE HOSPITAL AND THE KING IS IN HEAVEN.
SO I'M GONNA TELL YOU SOMETHING, WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE WANNA WORK WITH YOU GUYS, WORK WITH THE TOWN AND TRYING TO MAKE THIS A BETTER PLACE.
MANY TIMES WE SAW THAT WE TRYING TO RENT A PLACE AND THEY RATHER TO RENT IT TO A VAPE SHOP OR RENT IT TO A BAR THAN A CHURCH.
AND IT'S SAD BECAUSE THIS IS THE PLACE OUR KIDS ARE GROWING.
MY DAUGHTER, SHE WENT TO THE ARMY AND SHE'S VERY PROUD OF THIS PLACE AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT LIKE THAT.
AND WE WANNA BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, YOU GUYS FEEL FREE TO APPROACH AND WE WANT TO FEEL FREE TO COME AND TALK THOSE WORDS OVER THERE IN GOD.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD IS MORE THAN WORDS.
AND WE NEED TO SHOW THE PEOPLE THAT THIS PLACE IS SAFE AND, AND WE CAN, THEY CAN MOVE HERE SAFELY OR THEY CAN COME VISIT SAFELY.
ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? LAST CALL.
ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? ALRIGHT, PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER
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2 0 2 6 DASH OH THREE DASH OH ONE FOR OUR CHURCH WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.ANY DISCUSSION? I I MIGHT JUST ADD THAT, UM, THAT IS IN MY DISTRICT.
UM, DON'T BE MAD AT THE COWS FOR MOVING ON SUNDAY.
OH, BUT THEY'LL, UH, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, UH, UH, WELCOME.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.
AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY FOR THE REST OF THE MEETING IF YOU WANT TO, BUT IF YOU WANNA LEAVE, I'LL GIVE YOU TIME TO MOVE OUT BEFORE I START THE NEXT ONE.
SO YOU LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU WANNA DO.
[H.3. CUP2026-03-02 - Short-Term Tourist Rental - 112 Woods Way - A request for a conditional use permit for a short-term tourist rental. The property is located at 112 Woods Way and is identified on tax map 11E as lot 32. The property is zoned Agricultural (A) and is located in the South River Magisterial District. - Kelly Wahl , Interim Planning Director ]
PUBLIC HEARING IS CUP 2026 DASH OH THREE DASH OH TWO.IT'S FOR A SHORT TERM TAURUS RENTAL AT UM, 11 OR 112 WOODS WAY.
UH, REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL.
THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED AT ONE 12 WOODS WAY IDENTIFIED ONE.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL AND LOCATED IN THE SOUTH RIVER DISTRICT MAG DISTRICT MRS. WALL.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM TAUS RENTAL FOR THE PROPERTY CONSTRUCTED IN 2005.
THE APPLICANT WISHES TO ESTABLISH A SHORT-TERM TAURUS RENTAL IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE COUNTY REGULATIONS TO PROMOTE SUSTAINABLE LAND USE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND COMMUNITY VITALITY, AND TO OFFSET THE COST OF MAINTAINING A SECOND HOME.
NO PREVIOUS CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND NO ZONING VIOLATIONS HAVE BEEN RECORDED.
I THINK, UH, I SAID SOUTH RIVER DISTRICT.
I THINK THAT WAS A TYPO ONE HERE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S IN IT'S NORTH RIVER.
NORTH RIVER, GOT THE WRONG END OF THE RIVER THERE.
THERE IS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT OPERATION PERMIT APPROVING A MAXIMUM OF EIGHT OCCUPANTS FOR THE FOUR BEDROOM DWELLING.
THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN HAS BEEN PROVIDED AND REVIEWED BY PLANNING STAFF.
THE PROPERTY MANAGER TWO RIVERS SERVICES LLC IS LOCATED WITHIN THE REQUIRED 30 MILE DISTANCE OF THE PROPERTY IN STEVENS CITY, 7.3 MILES AWAY FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN A SUBDIVISION THAT IS GOVERNED BY A POA RIVER RIDGE, WHO HAS SUBMITTED COMMENTS AND A LETTER PROVIDED TO YOU IN YOUR PACKET.
THE CLOSEST DWELLING IS 846 FEET TO THE EAST.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM ON WEDNESDAY EIGHT, UH, WEDNESDAY, APRIL 8TH, 2026 ON A MOTION MADE BY MR. KISHI, SECONDED BY MR. GORDON.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARDED THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF BY A VOTE OF FOUR TO ZERO.
THERE WERE CONCERNS BROUGHT UP DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING REGARDING EMERGENCY SERVICE ABILITY TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY.
COMMENTS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO US FROM ASSISTANT CHIEF TICO.
THEY SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO YOU IN YOUR PACKET.
PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS BE ADDED TO THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS IN VIRGINIA STATEWIDE FIRE PREVENTION CODE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.
NUMBER TWO, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS SHALL NOT EXCEED THE SYSTEM CAPACITY IS DETERMINED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT PERMIT PER WARREN COUNTY CODE SUBSECTION 180 DASH 56.4 B.
AND THE CERTIFICATE OF ZONING SHALL ONLY BE ISSUED WITH APPROVED HEALTH DEPARTMENT RECORDS.
NUMBER THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE WELL WATER TESTED ANNUALLY FOR ECO AND COLIFORM BACTERIA AND A COPY OF THOSE RESULTS ARE TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING AND HEALTH DEPARTMENTS.
AND LASTLY, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE SEPTIC SYSTEM SERVICED EVERY FIVE YEARS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND A COPY OF THE SERVICE INVOICES
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TO BE PROVIDED TO THE STAFF.THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED THE APPLICANT IS HERE WITH US THIS EVENING.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. WALL AT THIS POINT? OKAY.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING AT THIS POINT? HI, WERNER MEYER.
AND THIS IS, THIS IS GABRIELA.
WE HAVE A, A LETTER FROM A NEIGHBOR.
I DID REACH OUT TO HER AND I THINK I'VE ALLEVIATED ALL OF HER CONCERNS.
UM, AND THEN ON THE HOA DOCUMENTS, IT, THE HOA SPECIFICALLY ALLOWS FOR GUEST COTTAGES.
SO THE IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, TRANSIENT GUESTS WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED SEEMS KIND OF, UH,
SO, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
MR. HENDERSON, IS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? YES MA'AM.
MY NAME IS LOUIS MOTON FROM THE NORTH RIVER DISTRICT.
UM, I WAS LOOKING OVER THESE DOCUMENTS AND A LOT OF THE COMMENTS AND THE MAIN THINGS THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME WERE, UM, THERE'S A STEEP GRADE OF LIKE 23% APPROACHING AND THEN THERE'S THE USAGE OF, UM, PRIVATE EASEMENTS AND ROADS FOR ESSENTIALLY COMMERCIAL USE IN A PLACE THAT REALLY WASN'T BUILT FOR IT.
UM, THE INDIVIDUAL MENTIONS THAT THEY WANT YEAR ROUND, TRANSIENT USE, NOT, IT'S NOT JUST AN OCCASIONAL GUEST USAGE OF THIS FACILITY.
UM, AND THAT IS MY ONLY COMMENT.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SECOND CALL.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY.
THIRD AND FINAL, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED OR IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 2026 DASH OH THREE DASH OH TWO FOR A SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL WITH CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.
ANY DISCUSSION? I WOULD JUST ADD THAT, UH, IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THAT SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL IS NOT A COM LEGALLY A COMMERCIAL USE.
IT WAS A COMMENT FROM A PUBLIC HEARING.
SECOND, IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION.
OKAY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, MR. HENRY, DID YOU DO SECOND OR YES? YES.
IF NO, IF NO OTHER ONE HAD ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.
[H.4. CUP2026-03-03 - Short-Term Tourist Rental - 375 Orchard Road - A request for a conditional use permit for a short-term tourist rental. The property is located at 375 Orchard Road and is identified on tax map 31E, section 1, block 3, as lot 3. The property is zoned Agricultural (A) and is located in the Happy Creek Magisterial District. - Kelly Wahl , Interim Planning Director ]
IS CUP 2026 DASH OH THREE DASH OH THREE.SHORT TERM TORTOISE RENTAL 3 75 ORCHARD ROAD.
UM, PROPERTIES LOCATED 3 75 ORCHARD ROAD AND IS IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 31 E SECTION ONE BLOCK THREE IS LOT THREE, THE PROPERTY ZONE AGRICULTURAL AND LOCATED IN THE HAPPY CREEK MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM TOURIST RENTAL FOR THE PROPERTY HE RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED.
HE'D LIKE TO MAKE THE DWELLING AVAILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL TO HELP OFFSET THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH OWNING AND MAINTAINING A SECOND HOME, WHILE ENSURING THAT THE DWELLING IS RESPONSIBLY MANAGED YEAR ROUND AND SUPPORTING THE LOCAL ECONOMY THROUGH SPENDING AT NEARBY RESTAURANTS, WINERIES, AND SMALL BUSINESSES IN WARREN COUNTY, THE OWNER AND A LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER WILL OVERSEE ALL ASPECTS.
NEW TIME, NEW TIME'S UP FOR SURE.
THERE IS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT CONSTRUCTION PERMIT APPROVING A MAXIMUM OF SIX OCCUPANTS FOR THE THREE BEDROOM DWELLING.
THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN HAS BEEN PROVIDED AND REVIEWED BY STAFF AND THE PROPERTY MANAGER, HAMILTON HANDMAN, IS LOCATED 11 MILES AWAY FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN A SUBDIVISION GOVERNED BY AN HOA OR POA.
FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON APRIL 8TH, 2026.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD EXPRESSED CONCERNS FOR UNSAFE ROAD CONDITIONS THE APPLICANT WILL INCLUDE IN THEIR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN.
HOW TO PROPERLY NAVIGATE THE ROAD SAFELY.
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A LETTER OF CONCERN AND A VIDEO OF THE ROAD WAS EMAILED SUNDAY MORNING AND YOU WERE PROVIDED A COPY REQUEST FOR COMMENTS WERE SENT TO THE POA ON APRIL 15TH, BUT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS BACK FROM THEM.THE DWELLING MEETS A SETBACK REQUIREMENT TO ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, THE CLOSEST BEING 1076 FEET TO THE SOUTHWEST.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 8TH, 2026 ON A MOTION MADE BY MR. BARNHART, SECONDED BY MR. SSIS.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARDED THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS REC, UM, AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF BY A VOTE OF FOUR TO ZERO.
PLANNING, COMMISSION AND STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING THE SAME CONDITIONS AS THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED.
I AM NOT SURE IF THE APPLICANT IS.
YES, HE IS WITH US THIS EVENING.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? GOOD EVENING.
UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO MEET TONIGHT.
I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CONCERNS, UM, AND I WANTED TO INTRODUCE MY FAMILY AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO WE ARE AND HOW WE PLAN TO USE THE PROPERTY.
MY WIFE AND I ARE BOTH PROFESSORS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND AND WE DECIDED TO BUILD THIS CABIN BECAUSE WE GENUINELY LOVE SPENDING TIME IN THE SHENANDOAH AREA.
WE HAVE AN ALMOST 3-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER AND WE'RE EXPECTING OUR SECOND CHILD THIS FALL.
SO FOR US, THIS IS VERY MUCH A FAMILY PLACE, SOMEWHERE TO UNPLUG, SPEND TIME OUTDOORS, AND BUILD MEMORIES TOGETHER, ESPECIALLY OVER THE NEXT YEAR WITH A NEWBORN.
WE EXPECT TO BE USING THE CABIN OURSELVES QUITE A LOT.
UM, WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS PEOPLE CAN HAVE ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY LIVE TWO DOORS DOWN FROM ONE IN OUR NEW, OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD.
IN OUR EXPERIENCE, IT HAS BEEN A COMPLETE NON-ISSUE.
UH, WE RARELY THINK ABOUT IT AT ALL.
AND WHEN WE'VE HAD FAMILY VISITING FOR OUT OF TOWN, IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN A HELPFUL RESOURCE.
UH, OUR NEIGHBORS WHO OWN IT HAVE EVEN OFFERED US A DISCOUNT WHEN THE FAMILY STAYS THERE.
I MENTIONED THAT NOT TO SUGGEST EVERY SITUATION IS ATYPICAL, BUT TO SAY THAT WE DO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT LIVES BUT MEANS TO LIVE ALONGSIDE THIS KIND OF ARRANGEMENT.
AND WE TAKE THAT PERSPECTIVE SERIOUSLY.
WHEN WE'RE NOT THERE, WE MAY OCCASIONALLY RENT THE PROPERTY TO HELP OFFSET COSTS, BUT OUR INTENTION IS NOT TO OPERATE A HIGH TURNOVER OR PARTY ORIENTED RENTAL.
IF ANYTHING, THE KINDS OF GUESTS WE ANTICIPATE ARE PEOPLE VERY MUCH LIKE US FAMILIES LOOKING FOR A QUIET WEEKEND AWAY FROM THE DC AREA, FRIENDS OR ACADEMIC COLLEAGUES USING THE SPACE FOR A QUIET WRITING RETREAT.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS CAN RAISE CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE, TRAFFIC AND UNFAMILIAR GUESTS, AND WE TAKE THOSE CONCERNS SERIOUSLY.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE PLANNING TO MANAGE THE PROPERTY THOUGHTFULLY, INCLUDING CLEAR OCCUPANCY EXPECTATIONS, HOUSE RULES, AND NOISE MONITORING SO THAT WE CAN PROACTIVELY ADDRESS ANY PROBLEMS IF THEY ARISE.
UH, THIS IS NOT A LARGE SCALE INVESTMENT OPERATION FOR US.
IT'S OUR SECOND HOME THAT WE'RE BUILDING FOR OUR OWN FAMILY TO USE REGULARLY AND CARE ABOUT LONG TERM.
WE WANNA BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF HOSTING EVENTS, LARGE GATHERINGS OR HIGH OCCUPANCY GROUPS.
THE CABIN IS DESIGNED AND INTENDED FOR SMALL FAMILY USE AND WE CHOSE THIS AREA BECAUSE WE VALUE THE SAME THINGS MANY OF YOU LIKELY DO.
PEACE, NATURE AND A SENSE OF COMMUNITY.
OUR GOAL IS FOR THIS TO BE A QUIET, WELL CARED FOR PROPERTY THAT FITS NATURALLY INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT SOMETHING THAT DISRUPTS IT.
MR. HENDERSON, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR THIS? YES, MA'AM.
MY NAME IS LOUIS MOTEN FROM THE NORTH RIVER DISTRICT.
UM, I DIDN'T HAVE MUCH ON THIS ONE.
I DID S SEE THAT WAS LIKE A YEAR ROUND, UH, YEAR ROUND APPLICATION, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE HE'S NOT GOING TO DO YEAR ROUND.
UM, BASICALLY WHEN I START LOOKING AT WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING, THE MAIN FOCUS IS THE PRIVATE ROAD.
WELL, THE, THE MAINTAINED GRAVELED ROADS WITH BLIND CURBS, LIMITED PULL OFF AREAS, NO LIGHTINGS, STEEP TERRAIN AND DIFFICULT WINTER ACCESS WITH, UH, MAINTENANCE.
MAINTENANCE CAUSED BORN BY THE HOMEOWNERS AND THE HOA YET NO CONDITIONS APPEAR TO ADDRESS INCREASE ROADWAY, WEAR INFRASTRUCTURE BURDEN OR LONG TERM CUMULATIVE IMPACTS IF ADDITIONAL, UH, SHORT TERM REP, SHORT TERM RENTAL APPLICATIONS.
UM, I DIDN'T HAVE MUCH ELSE ABOUT THAT.
IT IS JUST, I'M JUST READING THROUGH THESE AND JUST GIVING MY 2 CENTS WORTH.
I'M VALERIE MAXEY AND ALONG WITH MY HUSBAND SAM MAXEY.
WE'RE FROM HAPPY CREEK DISTRICT.
WE ARE PROPERTY OWNERS OF LOT SEVEN A, WHICH ADJOINS LOT THREE.
UH, WE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THIS OUTCOME.
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WE SUBMITTED A LETTER IN OPPOSITION TO THE CONDITIONAL USE SHORT-TERM RENTAL.I WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE ONE SHORT VIDEO.
UM, WE COULDN'T TRANSMIT THE OTHER VIDEOS AND, AND PHOTOS, WHICH WE HAD A LOT OF, FOR SOME ODD REASON I'M NOT A YOUTUBER OR TECHNICAL.
UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CONCERNS REGARDING ROAD IMPACT, SAFETY AND ENVIRONMENT FOR THE ROAD IMPACT.
POINT OF EGRESS TO MOSBY MOUNTAIN ESTATES IS INITIATES FROM ROUTE 55.
CLYDE CROSS OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND AT THAT POINT YOU CANNOT OR APPROACHING THE RAILROAD TRACKS, YOU CANNOT SEE ONCOMING TRAFFIC.
THERE'S ONLY A MIRROR POSTED ON THE LEFT SIDE.
THE TRACKS HAVE NO VISIBLE WARNING LIGHTS OR INDICATORS INDICATING APPROACHING TRAIN.
ONLY A STOP SIGN AND A RAILROAD SIGN LOCATED TO THE RIGHT INDICATES A PRIVATE RAILROAD.
UM, IT'S NOT PROMINENT UNTIL YOU DRIVE UP IN FRONT OF THE TRACKS.
THE OTHER DAY I APPROACHED THE TRACKS, THERE WERE FEW THREE VEHICLES, UM, PARKED ALONG SIDE THE ROAD BLOCKING THE ABILITY TO SEE ANY SIGNS EARLY ON.
THIS HOLDS TRUE FOR THE EGRESS ON FROM CC ROAD TO ROUTE 55 AS WELL.
THE STOP SIGN ON THE EGRESS IS NOT VISIBLE FROM A DISTANCE AS A TREE BLOCKS THE VIEW FROM THE EGRESS AND INGRESS.
THERE IS NO VISIBILITY TO THE ONCOMING TRAFFIC TRAFFIC FROM ROUTE 55.
I I ACTUALLY HAD THIS SITUATION AND HAD TO BACK UP.
ALL ROADS ARE RURAL, VERY NARROW ROADS OF GRAVEL, DIRT GRASS, BROKEN BLACKTOP WITH DRAIN CULVERTS LOCATED ON THE SIDES.
DURING WINDSTORMS, TREES HAVE FALLEN AND BLOCKED THE ROADS.
I EVEN KNOW SOMEONE THAT CARRIES A CHAINSAW IN THEIR CAR.
UM, POINT ON CCC ROAD HAS A SPLIT WOODEN RAILING WITH REFLECTORS DUE TO THE STEEP VERTICAL DROP OFF THAT'S APPROACHING DOWN TO THE SHENANDOAH APPALACHIAN TRAIL AT NIGHT.
THE ROADS IN THE COMMUNITY ARE PITCH BLACK AS THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT HAVE STREET LIGHTS, NOR IS THERE ANY REFLECTION FROM THE HOUSES.
THE ROAD WIDTH OF OLD ORCHARD ROAD, WHICH IS IN QUESTION, IS AN AVERAGE OF 10 FEET, VERY POSSIBLY EVEN LESS TO 12 FEET, 0.4 MILES LONG WITH A TURNAROUND AT THE END USUALLY REQUIRING A THIR THREE POINT TURN, WHICH IS A CONCERN FOR, UM, EMERGENCY VEHICLES CONCERN WITH THE SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN VEHICULAR TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD.
WHAT IS THE IMPACT AND SAFETY WITH THOSE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE AREA AND LOOKING AT WHAT WAS INDICATED IN THE APPLICATION.
365 DAYS RENTAL TIMES SIX OCCUPANTS TIMES SIX VEHICLES.
I WON'T GIVE THE NUM THE HIGH AND LOW NUMBERS, BUT IT WILL BE SUBSTANTIAL IT AND THAT WAS INDICATED IN THE APPLICATION.
UM, THE RENTAL GUEST TURNOVER IN DAILY EXCURSIONS.
YOU MUST NOW ACCOUNT FOR TRANSPORTIVE CLEANING CREW, MAINTENANCE CREW AND DELIVERIES.
WAS THAT MY TIME? YOU CAN FINISH IF YOU'VE JUST GOT A SENTENCE OR SO.
IF YOU'RE ALMOST DONE, I'LL LET YOU FINISH THAT.
I DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT I'LL LET MY HUSBAND PICK UP.
NEXT UP IS JOSEPH RIMMER OR GRIMER OF THAT ONE.
AND NEXT UP IS SUE JMIC AHEAD.
I, MY NAME IS SUSAN MIZ AND I'M PART OF HAPPY CREEK DISTRICT.
UM, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE LETTER THAT I SENT.
IF YOU COULD PULL A LITTLE CLOSER WE CAN.
DID YOU HEAR WHO I'M THAT'S BETTER.
OKAY, SU ISAAC AND I'M FROM HAPPY CREEK DISTRICT AND I HAD SENT A LETTER.
WAS THAT FORWARDED TO THEM? MA'AM, I WAS NOT ABLE TO OPEN THE ATTACHMENT.
I SENT YOU A SECOND EMAIL THIS EVENING THAT WE WERE PROBABLY OUTRIGHT.
I WAS JUST, IF THEY HAD IT, I DIDN'T WANNA REREAD.
NO, UNFORTUNATELY I WASN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE IT.
I COULDN'T GET IT TO DOWNLOAD.
YEAH, I HAD TROUBLE DOING THAT, SO SORRY ABOUT THAT.
UM, I'M WRITING TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3 75 OLD ORCHARD ROAD.
I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO DENY THIS APPLICATION DUE TO SERIOUS SAFETY CONCERNS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ROAD CONDITIONS SERVING THIS PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE INTENSITY, INTENSITY OF THE PROPOSED IN APPLICATION.
OUR SMALL MOUNTAIN COMMUNITY IS ACCESSED BY PRIVATE GRAVEL ROADS THAT ARE NOT DESIGNED FOR INCREASED OR TRANSIENT TRAFFIC.
THESE ROADS ARE NARROW, UNEVEN GUARD RAILS WITH STEEP DROP OFFS ALONG THE EDGES.
THEY ALSO INCLUDE SHARP LINE CURVES THAT SIGNIFICANTLY LIMIT VISIBILITY.
EVEN THE RESIDENTS FAMILIAR WITH THE TERRAIN SAFE NAVIGATIONS REQUIRE, EXCUSE ME, CAUTION AND EXPERIENCE FOR VISITORS UNFAMILIAR WITH THESE CONDITIONS.
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AFTER DARK.THE RISKS ARE SUBSTANTIALLY GREATER.
THERE ARE NO STREETLIGHTS IN THE AREA LEAVING THE ROADS IN NEAR TOTAL DARKNESS AT NIGHT.
IN ADDITION, WILDLIFE SUCH AS DEER AND OTHER ANIMALS FREQUENTLY CROSS THESE ROADS INCREASING THE LIKELIHOOD OF ACCIDENTS OF A PARTICULAR CONCERN IS THAT THE APPLICATION PROPOSES ACCOMMODATING UP TO SIX VEHICLES FOR THE RENTAL.
THIS WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE TRAFFIC ON THE ROADS THAT ARE ALREADY DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE AND UNSUITABLE FOR HIGHER VOLUME USE.
THE ADDITION OF MULTIPLE UNFAMILIAR DRIVERS POTENTIALLY ARRIVING AND DEPARTING AT DIFFERENT TIMES WOULD GREATLY ELEVATE THE RISK OF ACCIDENTS ON THESE HAZARDOUS ROADWAYS.
APPROVING THIS PERMIT WOULD INTRODUCE A STEADY FLOW OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS WHO ARE UNFAMILIAR WITH THESE CONDITIONS.
THIS CREATES A HEIGHTENED, HEIGHTENED RISK NOT ONLY FOR THOSE RENTING THE PROPERTY, BUT ALSO FOR RESIDENTS, GUESTS AND EMERGENCY RESPONDERS WHO RELY ON SAFE AND RELIABLE ACCESS IN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS.
THESE ROAD LIMITATIONS COULD DELAY RESPONSE TIMES OR RESTRICT ACCESS ENTIRELY POSING A SIGNIFICANT RISK TO LIFE AND SAFETY.
THE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE IS SIMPLY NOT SUITABLE FOR THE INCREASED DEMANDS THAT A SHORT TERM RENTAL ACTIVITY WOULD BRING.
FOR THESE REASONS, I STRONGLY AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU DENY THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR 3 75 OLD ORCHARD ROAD IN MOSBY MOUNTAIN ESTATES.
THE REST WAS THANKING YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
I ALSO HAVE SOME PICTURES WHICH PROBABLY DIDN'T ALSO GO THROUGH RIGHT? I DID RECEIVE YOUR PICTURES.
WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? I THINK.
HI, HOW YOU DOING THERE? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YOU CAN PULL, YOU CAN PULL IT UP.
UH, MY NAME'S ALAN SCHOENBERG.
I OWN THE PROPERTY NEXT TO, UH, THE PROPERTY.
IT'S REQUESTING THE, UH, SHORT TERM RENTAL THING.
UM, I OWN ACTUALLY TWO OF THE PROPERTIES.
I BOUGHT IT THERE, UH, A LONG TIME AGO.
UH, TO GET AWAY FROM THE NORTHERN VIRGINIA AREA.
I DO A LOT OF HUNTING, UH, NOT JUST MYSELF, BUT A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS AROUND DO ALLOW, UH, THEIR, THEY, THEY ALLOW THE HUNTING.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF HUNTING AROUND HIS PROPERTY.
I KNOW HE HAS A LARGE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY.
UM, HIS PROPERTIES, THEY BUILT THE HOUSE TOWARDS THE BOTTOM CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.
SO, UH, THEY HAVE ACCESS CLOSE TO THE ROAD.
MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS, UH, I'M NOT GONNA SHOOT ANYBODY COMING ACROSS MY, I KNOW MY BOUNDARIES.
PEOPLE COMING UP THERE TO THE MOUNTAIN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA KNOW WHERE THOSE BOUNDARIES ARE.
I AM GOING TO, UH, MARK MY LINES.
NOW WHETHER IT GETS APPROVED OR DENIED, I'VE GOT THE FRONT LINES ALL MARKED ALONG THE ROADS.
BUT NOW THAT MEANS I'M GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WOODS AND, AND, AND MARK MY LINES.
UH, NEIGHBORS AROUND HIM ARE GONNA HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING.
UH, THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT THE PEOPLE FROM THE, FROM, FROM UH, UH, THE UNIVERSITY'S TALKING ABOUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE USED TO THE COUNTRY.
OKAY? WE ARE, UH, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE STROLLS TO THE WOODS, SO THEY GOTTA KNOW WHERE THEY CAN'T GO.
UH, I KNOW THEY ADVERTISE THE, UH, APPALACHIAN TRAIL.
IT'S NOT FOR PEOPLE TO COME OFF THE APPALACHIAN TRAIL, JUST START WALKING AROUND.
UH, WE MAINTAIN THE ROADS OURSELF THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED.
SO MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING UP THERE IN THAT AREA AND WHAT GOES ON UP THERE AS FAR AS HOW WE LIVE AND WHAT WE DO.
UH, AND THE HUNTING IS MY BIGGEST CONCERN AND I, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO GET HUNT HURT.
UH, THAT, THAT, THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN THERE.
BUT OTHER THAN, THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY.
I'M IN THE HAPPY CREEK DISTRICT LOT SEVEN A HAVE THE PROPERTY NEXT TO THE REQUEST OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH I SEE IS, IS SAFETY CONCERNS RELATING TO EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
THE ROAD IS SO NARROW, IT'S TOUGH TO GET A CAR OR A TRUCK UP THERE, MUCH LESS ANY KIND OF EMERGENCY VEHICLE TO INCLUDE AMBULANCES OR POLICE CARS.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IT'S A TOUGH NARROW ROAD.
WE RECENT, WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS PROPERTY, WE HAD A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE OWNER OF LOT TWO THOUGHT HE OWNED MY PROPERTY AND HE STARTED SETTING UP CAMERAS AND BOUNDARIES ON MY PROPERTY
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TO THE POINT THAT WE HAD TO CALL THE POLICE.HE WAS GETTING READY TO SPEND $10,000 TO CLEAR PART OF MY LAND 'CAUSE HE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HIS BOUNDARIES WERE.
UH, IT'S, NONE OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE CLEARLY DELINEATED.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT.
I MEAN, I HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME AND I KNOW WHERE MY POSTS ARE, MY MARKERS.
IF PEOPLE WANDER INTO YOUR PROPERTY, THERE'S A LOT OF HUNTING THAT GOES ON UP THERE.
IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD PLACE FOR FOLKS THAT AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA TO RUN.
THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK SECOND CALL? ANYONE LIKE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK THIRD AND FINAL.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU'VE HEARD? I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, EVERYONE COMING FORWARD WITH THEIR CONCERNS.
UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE AS A, A NEIGHBORHOOD NEED TO MAYBE GET A BETTER CONTROL OVER THE ROADS.
UM, I DROVE UP THERE THIS, THIS AFTERNOON AND THE ROADS WERE TOTALLY FINE.
UH, THE SPEED LIMIT IS 15 MILES AN HOUR AND I NEVER FEEL LIKE I'M IN DANGER OF FALLING OFF THE MOUNTAIN OR ANYTHING.
UM, EMERGENCY VEHICLES, I, THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN FOR ANYBODY WHO LIVES THERE.
AND, UM, I PUT ON THE APPLICATION THAT SIX CARS COULD FIT ON THE PROPERTY, BUT I DON'T IMAGINE THERE BEING SIX CARS EVER, EVER UP THERE.
UM, MAYBE ONE OR TWO FAMILIES.
SO I DON'T IMAGINE MORE THAN TWO CARS PARKING UP THERE.
AND IT'S PRIMARILY GONNA BE PEOPLE TRAVELING ON THE WEEKENDS.
UM, SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE 365 DAYS OF, OF SIX CARS.
UM, IT MIGHT BE 20 WEEKENDS OF ONE OR TWO CARS.
UM, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT, THAT THE SUPERVISORS MIGHT HAVE.
UM, THERE AGAIN, I THINK YOU, YOU KIND OF ANSWERED IT 'CAUSE UH, I IT WAS MENTIONED BEFORE THAT.
IS THIS KINDA LIKE YOUR, YOUR SECOND HOME? YES.
AND YOU, YOU WOULD BE COMING THERE PERIODICALLY TO GET AWAY FROM THE CITY EXACTLY.
OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS SOME OF THE CONFUSION THAT IN THE APPLICATION IT TALKED ABOUT YEAR ROUND.
NOW THAT CAN BE INTERPRETED TWO DIFFERENT WAYS, MEANING EVERY SINGLE DAY.
OR MEANING THAT YOU'RE GONNA LEASE IT A WEEKEND HERE, A WEEKEND THERE, BUT IT'LL BE YEAR ROUND.
IS THAT I I JUST WANTED THE FLEXIBILITY TO HAVE IT BE ABLE TO BE RENTED OUT YEAR ROUND.
UM, BUT I, I DON'T IMAGINE IT BEING, IT BEING RENTED EVERY WEEK.
UM, WE, WE PLAN TO USE IT QUITE FREQUENTLY.
UM, AND AS FAR AS LIKE THE LAST, OR THE ONE GENTLEMAN THAT TALKED ABOUT, WELL, TWO OF 'EM ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT MAKING SURE THE BOUNDARIES ARE KNOWN.
AND I THINK THAT TO ME IS SOMEWHAT OF THE OWNERS' RESPONSIBILITY.
TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME UP THEY UNDERSTAND THIS IS MY PROPERTY AND THE NEIGHBORS AROUND HERE STAY OFF THEIR PROPERTY.
I'M, I'M HAPPY TO MARK, MARK THE TREES.
UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE WITH APPALACHIAN TRAIL.
UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE ALL MARKS.
UM, AND THE INSTRUCTIONS ARE GONNA BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, DON'T WANDER IN THAT DIRECTION.
UM, AND I'M GONNA HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A LARGE WRITTEN UP DOCUMENT ABOUT ROAD SAFETY AND, UM, I TAKE ALL OF THOSE CONCERNS VERY SERIOUSLY.
BUT I THINK, UM, IF THEY KEEP THE SPEED DOWN TO 15 MILES AN HOUR, THEY SHOULD BE FINE.
UM, THE ROAD IS, IS ACTUALLY IN IT'S BETTER SHAPE TODAY THAN IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST.
AND I WAS NEVER CONCERNED IN THE PAST.
I ACTUALLY DROVE UP THERE TODAY AND I REMEMBER WHEN IT USED TO BE THREE ORCHARDS UP THERE.
IT USED TO BE THE SALISBURY ORCHARD, THE GRAVEYARD ORCHARD, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE OTHER ONE.
AND THEN THE OLD CCC ROAD USED TO GO OVER THE MOUNTAIN AND THROUGH THE WOODS AND CAME OUT, UH, ON, ON UH, NEAR LAKEFRONT ROYAL AND POINT OF WOODS.
I KNOW THEY CLOSED THAT OFF NOW.
BUT I THINK THE KEY THING IS TO BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE CONTACT WITH YOUR, YOUR, UM, YOUR NEIGHBORS.
AND I THINK THE OTHER THING TOO WAS, UM, AND I KNOW WHEN, WHEN WE STARTED SHORT TERM RENTALS, YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AGO, UH, THERE WERE SOME INITIAL CONCERNS.
AND I THINK I TALKED TO, UM, MS. WALL BRIEFLY AS FAR AS IF THERE'S BEEN MANY, IF ANY, UM, COMPLAINTS MADE ABOUT SOME OF THESE.
WE RECEIVE VERY FEW COMPLAINTS.
UM, WE HAVE ONE, MAYBE TWO COMPLAINTS AS OF THIS YEAR SINCE JANUARY.
BECAUSE I KNOW ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAY BACK WHEN, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THEY RAN INTO THAT OR NOT.
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AND THERE AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO TELL YOU WHO TO RENT TO OR WHATEVER, BUT WHAT, WHAT SOME OF THE CONCERNS WERE THAT IF, UH, THEY HAD A GRADUATION PARTY FOR A FRAT FROM A COLLEGE OR IF THEY HAD A, UM, EXCUSE ME, IF THEY HAD A, UH, UH, BACHELOR PARTY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.AND THINGS GET OUTTA HAND AND NOISE WISE AND THE DETRIMENT TO THE NEIGHBORS.
SO AGAIN, WE WANT TO BE AWARE OF THE NEIGHBORS UP THERE.
AND I KNOW THERE WAS ANOTHER, UM, AND I, I, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS ABOUT EMERGENCY VEHICLES, BUT I KNOW THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE IN THE HAPPY CREEK DISTRICT AND I GUESS THEY HAD A FIRE ACCESS ROAD AND THE PEOPLE THAT WERE RENTING THE SHORT TERM RENTALS, THEY WERE ACTUALLY BLOCKING THAT ROAD.
SO THAT GOT TO BE A PROBLEM TOO.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE EXTENT UP HERE, BUT THE, BUT LIKE THE PREVIOUS, UH, UH, FOLKS THAT SPOKE, IT IS A NARROW ROAD.
YOU HAVE TO, UH, OBSERVE THE SPEED LIMIT.
UH, 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T REALLY GO THAT FAST ON IT ANYWAY 'CAUSE IT'S LIKE A WASHBOARD.
BUT THERE AGAIN, I THINK THE KEY IS, YOU KNOW, REACHING OUT AND UM, AND, AND, AND THEN I, I, I, I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TOO THAT YOU WOULD, WOULD, UH, EXPECT AND APPRECIATE IF YOU RENT IT TO SOMEBODY OVER THE WEEKEND AND THINGS GET OUTTA HAND.
'CAUSE AND THEN THERE AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE THE NEIGHBORS CAN KINDA LET YOU KNOW.
'CAUSE EVERYBODY KIND OF KEEPING AN EYE ON IT TOO.
SO THAT'S MY ONLY THOUGHT THERE, I THINK.
AND I DO APPRECIATE THE TIME AND YOUR TIME.
AND I'M HAPPY TO, UH, I'M PLANNING ON INSTALLING SOME NOISE MONITORS, UM, THAT IF IT GETS ABOVE A CERTAIN DECIBEL LEVEL, IT'LL PING ME IMMEDIATELY.
UM, BUT THAT, THAT'S, WE'RE NOT AIMING TO RENT IT OUT TO THE BACHELORETTE CROWD.
UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER PROFESSORS AND, UH, QUIET TYPES THAT, THAT'S OUR INTENTION.
UM, IN YEARS BASED ON PLANNING COMMISSION, WE FEEL WE'VE ACTUALLY REQUIRED THAT BOUNDARIES BE MARKED ALL.
AND WOULD YOU BE APPLICABLE TO MARKING THE BOUNDARIES? AND IF IT'S A 20 ACRE LOT, WOULD YOU WANT YOUR GUESTS TO HAVE ACCESS TO ALL 20 OR WOULD YOU BE WILLING MAYBE TO RESTRICT 'EM TO FIVE ACRES AROUND THE INCIDENT? I'D, I'D BE WILLING TO RESTRICT, RESTRICT THE AMOUNT AVAILABLE.
UM, I HADN'T REALLY GOTTEN THAT FAR.
THE HOUSE ISN'T, ISN'T BEEN FINISHED YET.
UM, BUT I'M ABSOLUTELY GONNA GONNA MARK MARK THE BOUNDARIES ONCE ALL OF THAT IS, IS COMPLETE.
I DIDN'T READ ALL THE CONDITIONS, BUT WE'RE STILL DOING NO FARMS, NO OPEN AIR BURNING AS STANDARD CONDITIONS.
NO ATVS, NO FIREARMS. AND THEY ARE REQUIRED TO, UM, SUBMIT BOUNDARY LINE PHOTOS AND THEY HAVE TO PUT IN MARKERS FOR THAT AS PART OF THE POST-APPROVAL PROCESS.
SHOULD YOU APPROVE THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WOULD BE REQUIRED BEFORE I ISSUED A CERTIFICATE OF ZONING.
SO YOU'D VERIFY THAT THE BOUNDARIES HAVE BEEN MARKED? YES SIR.
SO WE DON'T NEED TO ADD A CONDITION FOR THAT.
I WOULD JUST, UH, ADD THAT, UH, UM, FROM THE STUDIES AND STUFF, UM, SHORT TERM TURN RENTAL TOURIST RENTALS, SORRY ABOUT THE TONGUE TIED THERE.
OH, THESE TYPE OF RENTALS USUALLY GENERATE LESS TRAFFIC THAN A PERMANENT RESIDENT THAT'S BEEN, UH, THAT'S PROVEN ON MULTIPLE OCCASION.
SEE, SO CHANCES OF IT RENTING UH, 365 DAYS A YEAR WOULD BE PRETTY RARE EVEN IF, UH, HE DIDN'T USE IT HIMSELF.
THE, UH, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING I, HE SAID HE HAD ROOM FOR THE SIX CARS.
IT'S SIX OCCUPANT MAXIMUM, SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE, OH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS IT'S A POTENTIAL ONCE IN A WHILE SIX PEOPLE COULD MEET THERE AND ALL OF 'EM DRIVE SEPARATE.
BUT, UH, IF, IF TWO ADULTS WANNA SHARE A BUNK BED, THEY CAN FEEL FREE TO DO THAT, I GUESS.
WELL THAT'S, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S USUALLY TWO OR I MEAN ONCE IN A GREAT WHILE, MAYBE IT WOULD BE ALL SIX CARS, BUT IT'S USUALLY ONLY TWO OR THREE, UH, ON A SIX OCCUPANCY ON AVERAGE.
AND, UM, LIKE I SAY, THEY, UH, THEY STATISTICALLY, UH, HAVE LESS DEMAND ON SERVICES 'CAUSE IT'S, UH, NOT PERMANENT RESIDENT.
THEY TYPICALLY DON'T USE AS MUCH WATER.
UH, THEY'RE NOT THERE AS OFTEN.
UH, SO IT'S A LITTLE LESS DEMAND ON SERVICES.
UM, ONE QUESTION I HAVE WITH THE VEHICLES, UM, DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH ROOM ON YOUR PROPERTY THAT THERE WILL BE NO, UH, PARKING OR BLOCKING THE, THE ROADWAY? NO.
UH, THERE WON'T BE ANY BLOCKING IN THE ROADWAY.
THE DRIVEWAY IS PROBABLY ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET LONG.
UM, AND CURRENTLY THAT THIS IS THE ONLY HOUSE ON THE ROAD, UM, THERE'S ONE OTHER HOUSE THAT HAS AN OLD ORCHARD ADDRESS, WHICH I BELIEVE IS YOUR HOUSE.
UM, BUT THE TURNOFF IS OFF OF CCC ROAD.
SO AS OF NOW, THIS IS THE ONLY HOUSE ON OLD ROAD.
UM, AND IT'S ABOUT THREE QUARTERS A MILE DOWN TO THE DRIVEWAY.
UM, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I WILL TAKE A MOTION.
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YOU.I'M NOT SURE IF I CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'M GONNA DO IT AGAIN IN CASE I DIDN'T.
I WILL MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2 0 2 6 DASH THREE DASH ZERO THREE FOR SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL WITH THE CONDITION AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ROLL CALL MR. HENDERSON.
AND, UM, JUST A POINT OF WITH CS, THEY ARE ON CONDITION OF, UM, THE THINGS THAT WE PUT IN THEM.
SO IF THERE ANY OF THOSE CONDITIONS ARE BROKE, WE PULL, WE CAN PULL THE PERMIT SO FOR, YOU KNOW, THOSE THAT LIVE NEARBY IF THIS IS, YOU KNOW, TENSION ON THAT.
SO YEAH, HOPE IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE COMFORT THERE.
[H.5. CUP2026-03-04 - Building Service Establishment - 10358 Stonewall Jackson Hwy - A request for a conditional use permit for a building service establishment. The properties are located at 10358 Stonewall Jackson Highway, identified on tax map 28 as lot 21; 6567 Browntown Road, identified on tax map 28 as lot 122; and identified on tax map 28 as lot 122A. The properties are zoned Agricultural (A) and are located in the South River Magisterial District. - Kelly Wahl , Interim Planning Director ]
CUP 2026 DASH OH THREE DASH OH FOUR.BUILDING SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT.
UH, TEN THREE FIFTY EIGHT STONEWALL JACKSON HIGHWAY.
A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A BUILDING SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT, UM, IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 28 AS LOT 21 AND 65 67 BROWNTOWN ROAD IDENTIFIED AS TAX MAP 28 AND LOT 1 22 AND TAX MAP 28 AND LOT 1 22 A AND THE PROPERTIES ARE ZONED AGRICULTURAL AND LOCATED IN SOUTH RIVER DISTRICT MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT MRS. WALL.
THE APPLICANTS ARE REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A BUILDING SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT FOR THE PROPERTY.
THEY'RE UNDER CONTRACT TO PUR TO PURCHASE FROM PITMAN ENTERPRISES.
THE APPLICANTS, THE OWNERS OF AN HVAC COMPANY, DAVE'S DIVERSIFIED SERVICES WOULD LIKE TO USE THE PROPERTY AS A MATERIALS AND EQUIPMENT STORAGE FOR THEIR BUSINESS IF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS APPROVED.
THE APPLICANTS HAVE STATED THAT THEY WILL OPERATE A LOW INTENSITY SERVICE-BASED HVAC CONTRACTOR BUSINESS AT 1 0 3 5 8 STONEWALL JACKSON.
WARREN COUNTY CODE SUBSECTION 180 DASH EIGHT C DEFINES A BUILDING SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT AS A FACILITY PROVIDING SERVICES FOR RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, INSTITUTIONAL, OR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL STRUCTURES SUCH AS EXTERMINATOR, PLUMBER, DECORATOR, ELECTRICIAN, OR HEATING, VENTILATION AND AIR CONDITIONING, OR OTHER APPLIANCE SERVICE AND RELATED EQUIPMENT STORAGE, STAGING, AND REPAIRS.
THIS USE SHALL COMPLY WITH THE SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS SET FORTH IN SUBSECTION 180 DASH 36.1 OF THIS CHAPTER.
THERE IS AN EXISTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE OPERATION OF A TREE SURGERY AND LANDSCAPING BUSINESS.
FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT WAS ISSUED ON JULY 18TH, 1995.
A NOTICE OF INSPECTION WAS ISSUED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER IN APRIL OF 2025, WHERE STAFF IDENTIFIED THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONDITIONS NUMBER THREE AND NUMBER FIVE PLACED ON THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REGARDING INOPERABLE VEHICLES AND THE SCREENING OF THE EQUIPMENT AREA.
IN JUNE OF 2025, STAFF CONFIRMED THE PROPERTY WAS BROUGHT UP TO THE STANDARDS OF THE CONDITIONS AND WAS FOUND COMPLIANT.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS AREA TO BE USED FOR AGRICULTURAL LAND.
USES A BUILDING SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT IS A USE ALLOWED BY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT AND IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE CURRENT WARREN COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 8TH, 2026 ON A MOTION MADE BY MR. BARNHART, SECONDED BY MR. KISHI.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARDED THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF BY A VOTE OF FOUR TO ZERO YES.
FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC HEARING IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION, STAFF CONSULTED WITH VDOT AND THE APPLICANTS REGARDING THE PROPOSED USE OF THE EXISTING ENTRANCE OFF OF ROUTE THREE 40.
VDOT ADVISED THAT THE EXISTING ENTRANCE DOES NOT CURRENTLY MEET THE REQUIRED SITE DISTANCE STANDARDS AND THEREFORE CANNOT BE UTILIZED FOR THE PROPOSED USE.
THE APPLICANT IS INSTEAD PROPOSING CONSTRUCTION OF A COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE FROM HICKORY HILL ROAD, A STATE MAINTAINED ROAD OFF OF BROWNTOWN ROAD.
ACCORDINGLY, STAFF RECOMMENDS REMOVAL OF CONDITION NUMBER EIGHT.
PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS BE ADDED.
SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO APPROVE THIS PERMIT, NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL VER UH, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS, WARREN COUNTY
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FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES, WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AND ANY OTHER APPLICABLE AGENCY REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.NUMBER TWO, THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES ONSITE SHALL NOT EXCEED THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY AS DETERMINED BY THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY ISSUED FOR THE BUILDING OR THE OPERATION PERMIT ISSUED FOR THE ONSITE SEWAGE DISPOSAL SYSTEM, WHICHEVER IS LESSER ONSITE CUSTOMER SERVICE AND RETAIL SALES SHALL BE PROHIBITED.
THE APPLICANT SHALL SUBMIT AN ILLUSTRATIVE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, INCLUDING SCHEMATIC DETAILS ON INGRESS AND EGRESS BUILDING LOCATIONS, OFF STREET PARKING, STORAGE, STAGING AREAS WITH SETBACK DISTANCES TO PROPERTY LINES LABELED SCREENING, LANDSCAPING, OUTDOOR LIGHTING, AND SIGNAGE PLANNING.
STAFF SHALL REVIEW AND APPROVE THE ILLUSTRATIVE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF ZONING.
NUMBER FIVE, AREAS USED FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE OR STAGING OF EQUIPMENT SHALL BE FULLY SCREENED FROM VIEW AND SHALL BE SET BACK A MINIMUM OF 25 FEET FROM ALL ADJACENT PROPERTY LINES.
NUMBER SIX, THE APPLICANT SHALL MAINTAIN THE EXISTING TREE LINE ALONG BROWNTOWN ROAD AS A BUFFER AND SCREENING FROM THE ROADWAY.
THE HOURS OF OPERATION SHALL BE BETWEEN 7:00 AM AND 6:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
UH, WE RECOMMEND REMOVING CONDITION NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH STATES A WAIVER TO THE REQUIRED DIRECT STATE ROAD ACCESS INTO ALLOW FOR THE CONTINUED USE OF THE EXISTING ENTRANCES TO LOTS 28, 1 21 28, 1 22, AND 28 1 22 A.
AND LASTLY, CONDITION NUMBER NINE, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
1995 DASH 7 0 1 SHALL BE DEEMED NULL AND VOID.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE WITH US THIS EVENING.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? MY NAME IS DUSTIN ST.
UH, I LIVE IN THE FORK DISTRICT.
UM, DAVE'S DIVERSIFIED AS OUR FAMILY BUSINESS.
UH, WE'VE OPERATED HERE IN FRONT ROYAL FOR MORE THAN 25 YEARS NOW.
UM, THERE'S AN EXISTING CUP, SO THERE'S A PRECEDENT FOR A CUP AT THIS PROPERTY.
UM, THERE'S ALSO A PRECEDENT IN THE COUNTY FOR, UH, BUSINESS IDENTICAL TO OURS TO BE, YOU KNOW, PUT ON THESE AGRICULTURAL LANDS.
UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, SO BOTH NEIGHBORS TO THIS PROPERTY.
ONE'S AN AIRBNB, THE OTHER ONE'S SKYLINE CAVERNS.
UM, SO THERE'S NO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT.
UM, THE ACCESS TO HICKORY HILL, IT'S SUPER LOW VOLUME ROAD.
I THINK THERE'S ONE HOUSE ON IT.
UM, THERE'S NO REAL IMPACT TO TRAFFIC.
UM, EXISTING FORESTRY REMAINS ON ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE BUFFER.
UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH A LOCAL, UH, SURVEY COMPANY TO, UH, GO THROUGH VDOT AND GET THE ENTRANCE DRAWINGS TOGETHER.
UM, AND OUR PROPOSED TRAFFIC, UH, IS APPROXIMATELY 10% OF WHAT VDOT S ENTRANCE WILL SUPPORT.
ACTUALLY, I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION IF THE APPLICANT COULD STAY, BUT I MAYBE FOR YOU, I'M NOT SURE.
UH, JUST REGARDING THE, THE COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE, UH, ON THE SOUTH END OF THE PROPERTIES, UH, AT HICKORY HILL ROAD, IS THERE A REASON THE ENTRANCE WOULDN'T BE OR COULDN'T BE AT BROWNTOWN ROAD? UH, WHICH IS A LARGER THOROUGHFARE AND, UH, IT, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD BE FURTHER AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT WAY? I BELIEVE THAT, UH, VDO T'S EXPLANATION IS THEY WANT TO, UH, MAKE THE LEAST IMPACT TO TRAFFIC.
UM, SO WITH THAT ROAD ONLY HAVING THE ONE HOUSE ON IT, UM, YOU KNOW, VERSUS ON VDOT YOU'VE GOTTA MEET A LARGER SITE DISTANCE 'CAUSE OF THE SPEED LIMITS MM-HMM
UM, SO YOU HAVE THE LEAST IMPACT TO THE SURROUNDING ROADWAYS BY ENTERING THE, THE LOWEST SPEED LIMIT ROAD.
AND I, I DO BELIEVE THERE, IT LOOKS LIKE THREE HOMES ON HICKORY HILL ROAD, BUT UH, THERE'S ONE THAT WOULD BE CLEARLY CLOSE TO WHERE YOUR ENTRANCE, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO THE ENTRANCE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY, MR. HENDERSON, HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP? UH, THE APPLICANT DID SIGN UP TO SPEAK, SO I'M GONNA MOVE DOWN TO THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS DAVID ST.
MYERS AND I, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY MY SON.
MY NAME IS LOUIS MOTON IN NORTH RIVER DISTRICT.
AND MR. STAN MEYER, YOU'VE ALREADY PRETTY MUCH HIT ON THE QUESTION I WAS WONDERING ABOUT, SO I HAVE NOTHING MORE TO CONTRIBUTE.
ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP, MR. LEE? NO, MA'AM.
WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SECOND CALL.
WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK THIRD AND FINAL? OKAY.
IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2 0 2 6 0 3 0 4 FOR A BUILDING SERVICES ESTABLISHMENT WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED
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BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CONDITION NUMBER EIGHT.ANY DISCUSSION? I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT, UH, I LIKE THE IDEA OF SMALL BUSINESS.
THIS IS REALLY CLOSE TO HOME OCCUPATIONAL, BUT IT, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY SOME STORAGE AND TRUCKS AND THINGS THAT WE WE'LL, UH, WON'T FIT IN THE HOUSE.
SO, UH, BECAUSE IT'S IN VIEW OF THE ROAD, IT, IT REQUIRES THIS, BUT, UH, UH, I LIKE TRADES IN THE COMMUNITY.
THEY SUPPLY LOCAL JOBS AND TRAINING AND, UH, I JUST LIKE THE WHOLE I DID.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? UH, SECOND.
UM, IN A WAY THAT YOU'RE EXITING OFF BROWNTOWN ROAD, I'VE ALL THOSE, UM, EXITS RIGHT THERE ON THREE 40 IS IT'S DANGEROUS AREA, SO WISH YOU WELL ON THAT.
THAT'S A ROCKY AREA YOU'RE WORKING IN.
[H.6. CUP2026-03-05 - Short-Term Tourist Rental - 77 Eagles Crag Road - A request for a conditional use permit for a short-term tourist rental. The property is located at 77 Eagles Crag Road and is identified on tax map 15H, section 4, as lot 8. The property is zoned Residential-One (R-1) and is located in the Shenandoah Magisterial District. - Kelly Wahl , Interim Planning Director]
UM, NEXT IS CUP 2026 DASH OH THREE DASH OH FIVE.SHORT TERM TAURUS RENTAL AT 77 EAGLES CRAIG WAY.
UM, THIS IS IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 15 EIGHT.
IT'S, UH, ZONED RESIDENTIAL ONE AND LOCATED IN THE SHENANDOAH MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT MRS. WALL.
THE APPLICANTS ARE REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM TOR RENTAL FOR THE PROPERTY CONSTRUCTED IN 2024.
THE OWNERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE DWELLING AVAILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL TO OFFER A SAFE AND WELCOMING LODGING OPTION TO VISITORS OF WARREN COUNTY WHILE ALSO SUPPORTING THE LOCAL ECONOMY.
THE OWNERS WILL OVERSEE ALL ASPECTS OF THE RENTAL PROCESS AND MANAGEMENT OF THE RENTAL PROPERTY.
NO PREVIOUS CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THERE IS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT OPERATION PERMIT APPROVING A MAXIMUM OF SIX OCCUPANTS FOR THE THREE BEDROOM DWELLING.
THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN HAS BEEN PROVIDED AND REVIEWED BY PLANNING STAFF.
THE APPLICANT IS ACTING AS THE LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER AND RESIDES 19 MILES AWAY FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE SHENANDOAH FARMS. POA COMMENTS HAVE BEEN REQUESTED, BUT NO RESPONSE HAS BEEN PROVIDED AT THIS TIME.
THE DWELLING MEETS A SETBACK REQUIREMENT TO ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, THE CLOSEST BEING 170 FEET TO THE SOUTH.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 8TH, 2026 ON A MOTION MADE BY MR. BARNHART, SECONDED BY MR. GORDON.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARDED THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF BY A VOTE OF FOUR TO ZERO.
PLANNING, COMMISSION AND STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND VIRGINIA STATEWIDE FIRE PREVENTION CODE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.
THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS SHALL NOT EXCEED THE SYSTEM CAPACITY AS DETERMINED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT PERMIT PER WARREN COUNTY CODE SUBSECTION 180 DASH 56.4 B, AND THE CERTIFICATE OF ZONING SHALL ONLY BE ISSUED WITH APPROVED HEALTH DEPARTMENT RECORDS.
NUMBER THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE WELL WATER TESTED ANNUALLY FOR E COLI AND COLIFORM BACTERIA AND A COPY OF THOSE RESULTS TO BE PROVIDED TO PLANNING AND, UH, HEALTH DEPARTMENTS.
THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE SEPTIC SYSTEM MAINTAINED ANNUALLY BY A LICENSED OPERATOR AS REQUIRED FOR AN ALTERNATIVE ONSITE SEWAGE DISPOSAL SYSTEM.
THE APPLICANT SHALL ALSO HAVE THE SEPTIC SYSTEM PUMPED EVERY FIVE YEARS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AND A COPY OF THE SERVICE INVOICE IS TO BE PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED THE APPLICANT IS HERE WITH US THIS EVENING.
IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIRMAN BOARD, UH, REX CHRISTENSEN.
MY WIFE MICHELLE, WE'RE FROM THE SHENANDOAH DISTRICT.
UH, THIS CABIN AND PROPERTY'S BEEN VERY SPECIAL TO US.
WE BUILT, UH, EVERY ASPECT OF IT, UM, FROM TAKING THE TREES DOWN TO THE FOOTINGS AND FOUNDATION, THE FLOOR WIRED PLUM, EVERY BIT OF IT.
UH, SHE SAID 24 IS, THAT'S PROBABLY WHEN WE PULLED THE PERMIT.
WE MAY HAVE HAD ONE OF THE LONGER PERMITS IN THE COUNTY.
I THINK IT WAS IN, UH, DECEMBER WHEN WE ACTUALLY GOT OUR FINAL.
UM, IT TOOK US A LITTLE TIME, BUT WE DID IT ALL OURSELVES AND IT'S BEEN A SO I I CAN'T UNDERSTATE, UM, THE CONCERN WE HAVE WITH HOW THE PROPERTY'S HANDLED AND MAINTAINED.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US.
UM, I SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THE FARMS AND THE COMMUNITY THERE AND SO I, I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES AND SO I WORK CLOSELY TO TRY TO MITIGATE THOSE.
WE TRY TO PULL THOSE CONCERNS AND PUT THAT INTO OUR PACKET TO SHOW THAT THEY WERE MITIGATED PROPERLY.
BUT, UH, WE'RE HAPPY FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT MIGHT BE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? OKAY, MR. ANDERSON, ANYBODY SIGN UP? YES, MA'AM.
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MOTON FROM THE NORTH RIVER DISTRICT.UM, THIS APPLICATION WAS SURPRISING BECAUSE IT WAS BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY FOR THIS PURPOSE WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING.
I, I COULDN'T REALLY FIND ANYTHING, UH, OF CONCERN WITH THIS.
I THINK THIS IS REALLY GOOD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
UM, MY ONLY REAL CONCERN IS THE CONCENTRATION OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS, BUT THIS IS PRETTY MUCH MADE FOR IT.
ANYONE ELSE? WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SECOND CALL.
ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? THIRD AND FINAL.
IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 20 26 0 3 0 5 FOR A SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.
ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
[H.7. CUP2026-03-06 - Short-Term Tourist Rental - 103 Luchase Road - A request for a conditional use permit for a short-term tourist rental. The property is located at 103 Luchase Road and is identified on tax map 23A, section 4, block 9, as lot 15A. The property is zoned Residential-One (R-1) and is located in the Shenandoah Magisterial District. - Kelly Wahl , Interim Planning Director]
2026 DASH OH THREE DASH OH SIX SHORT TERM TAURUS RENTAL 1 0 3 LU CHASE ROAD.UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AND IDENTIFIED ON TAX MAP 23 A SECTION FOUR BLOCK NINE AS LOT 15 A.
I IT'S LIKE ROUTING BUT UNBELIEVABLY, UH, IT'S ZONED RESIDENTIAL ONE AND LOCATED IN THE SHENANDOAH MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT.
THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM TAURIST RENTAL FOR THE PROPERTY THEY RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE LOWER LEVEL OF THE DWELLING AVAILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL TO OFFSET SOME OF THE INVESTMENT AND COST OF THE MORTGAGE.
THE OWNERS AND A LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER WILL OVERSEE ALL ASPECTS OF THE RENTAL PROP PROCESS AND MANAGEMENT OF THE RENTAL PROPERTY.
THERE ARE THREE APPROVED AND ACTIVE SHORT-TERM TAURUS RENTALS AND ONE SHORT-TERM TAURUS RENTAL THAT HAS BEEN APPLIED FOR ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE SUBJECT DWELLING, THERE IS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT OPERATION PERMIT APPROVING A MAXIMUM OF SIX OCCUPANTS FOR THE FOUR BEDROOM DWELLING.
THE APPLICANTS WILL UPDATE THEIR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN TO INCLUDE THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY, BE LIMITED TO TWO OCCUPANTS IN THE BASEMENT DURING THE RENTAL PERIOD WHEN THEY REMAIN ON SITE.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITH THE SKYLAND ESTATE SUBDIVISION.
THE SKYLAND COMMUNITY CORPORATION WAS CONTACTED FOR COMMENTS AND THEY UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION.
THE CLOSEST DWELLING IS 128 FEET TO THE EAST.
PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 8TH, 2026.
ON A MOTION MADE BY MR. KISHI, SECONDED BY MR. BARNHART.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARDED THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
RECOMMENDATIONS IS, UM, WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF BY A VOTE OF FOUR TO ZERO.
PLANNING, COMMISSION AND STAFF RECOMMEND THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
IT'S THE SAME AS THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION WITH THE DIFFERENCE BEING CONDITION NUMBER FOUR, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE SEPTIC SYSTEM SERVICED EVERY FIVE YEARS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND A COPY OF THE SERVICE INVOICES TO BE PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE WITH US THIS EVENING.
IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? YOU DON'T HAVE TO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. WALL? WHO ARE THEY UP IN AT THIS POINT? OKAY, MR. HENDERSON.
HELLO SUPERVISORS, MY NAME IS LOUIS MOTEN FROM THE NORTH RIVER DISTRICT.
UM, MY CONCERN WITH THIS IS REALLY PROCEDURAL ONE.
I'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT, UM, EARLIER THAT TODAY ABOUT THE, UH, THE STAFF REPORT, WHICH IS STILL IN FOR DIFFERENT PROPERTY TODAY, THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AND IT IS STILL MISSING FROM THE, UH, THE PLANNING MEETING.
UH, I WAS TOLD THAT THEY RE DID REVIEW THE PROPER REPORT AND THAT YOU WOULD BE REVIEWING THE PROPER STAFF REPORT, BUT THERE IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC IS NOT SEEING THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS TO.
SO I WOULD KINDLY ASK THAT YOU UPDATE THE, UH, AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE BOARD PACKETS.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON MS I SECOND CALL? ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? THIRD AND FINAL PUBLIC HEARING IS
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CLOSED.IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2 0 2 6 0 3 0 7 FOR SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.
ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
[H.8. CUP2026-03-07 - Short-Term Tourist Rental - 530 Wilderness Road - A request for a conditional use permit for a short-term tourist rental. The property is located at 530 Wilderness Road and is identified on tax map 23A, section 319, as lot 72. The property is zoned Residential-One (R-1) and is located in the Shenandoah Magisterial District. - Kelly Wahl , Interim Planning Director ]
DASH OH THREE DASH OH SEVEN A SHORT TERM TAURUS RENTAL AT FIVE 30 WILDERNESS ROAD.WE JUST DIDN'T THAT ONE, DIDN'T WE? LOU CHASE? YOU SAID SEVEN.
YEAH, I WAS ABOUT TO SPEAK UP.
I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS WRONG, BUT I WASN'T A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE.
UM, BUT THE MOTION WAS TO APPROVE 20 26 0 3 DASH OH SEVEN IS WHAT MR. HENRY ACTUALLY SAID AND I KNOW THAT THAT WAS JUST A MISTAKE, BUT THE CLEANEST THING TO DO WILL BE TO JUST GO AHEAD AND REDO IT.
OKAY? SO REDO THE MOTION FOR OH SIX.
WELL, I MOVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
2 0 2 6 0 3 0 6 FOR SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT'S RECOMMENDED BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF.
SECOND ROLL CALL MR. HENDERSON.
OKAY, LAST ONE IS THE FIVE 30, UH, CUP 20 26 0 3 0 7 5 30 WILDERNESS, UH, LOCATED ON TAX MAP 23 A SECTION THREE 19 IS LOT 72 ZONED RESIDENTIAL ONE IN LOCATED IN THE SHENANDOAH MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT.
THE APPLICANTS ARE REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM TAURIST RENTAL FOR THE PROPERTY THEY RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED.
THE OWNERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE DWELLING AVAILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL TO OFFSET CONSTRUCTION AND MORTGAGE COSTS.
THE OWNERS RESIDE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO BOTH THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE PREVIOUS SHORT-TERM TA RENTAL APPLICATION, ALLOWING THEM TO ACTIVELY OVERSEE AND MANAGE THE OPERATION OF THE SHORT TERM TA RENTAL.
THE OWNERS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE LOCAL PROPERTY MANAGER WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION.
THERE ARE TWO APPROVED AND ACTIVE SHORTTERM TA RENTALS AND ONE SHORTTERM TA RENTAL THAT HAS BEEN APPLIED FOR ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT DWELLING, THERE IS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT OPERATION PERMIT APPROVING A MAXIMUM OF FOUR OCCUPANTS FOR THE TWO BEDROOM DWELLING.
THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN HAS BEEN PROVIDED AND REVIEWED BY PLANNING STAFF.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE SKYLAND ESTATE SUBDIVISION.
THE SKYLAND COMMUNITY CORPORATION WAS CONTACTED FOR COMMENTS AND THEY VOTED TO DISAPPROVE OF THIS APPLICATION.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER TO THE SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATION IS THE DWELLING DOES NOT MEET THE 100 FOOT SETBACK REQUIREMENT FROM NEIGHBORING RESIDENCES.
THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENCE FIVE 40 WILDERNESS ROAD IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 62 FEET TO THE EAST OF THE DWELLING AND IT IS CURRENTLY NEGLECTED AND VACANT.
AND THE APPLICANTS HAVE OBTAINED A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 8TH, 2026 ON A MOTION MADE BY MR. BARNHART, SECONDED BY MR. SES.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARDED THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL BY, BY A, A VOTE OF FOUR TO ZERO WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE A LETTER FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER APPROVING THE REQUEST.
SINCE THEN, THE APPLICANTS HAVE OBTAINED THAT LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS BE ADDED TO THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO APPROVE.
NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS IN VIRGINIA STATEWIDE FIRE PREVENTION CODE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.
NUMBER TWO, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS SHALL NOT EXCEED THE SYSTEM CAPACITY IS DETERMINED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT PERMIT PER WARREN COUNTY CODE SUBSECTION 180 DASH 56.4 B.
AND THE CERTIFICATE OF ZONING SHALL ONLY BE ISSUED WITH THE APPROVED HEALTH DEPARTMENT RECORDS.
THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE WELL WATER TESTED ANNUALLY FOR E COLI AND COLIFORM BACTERIA AND A COPY OF THOSE RESULTS ARE TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING AND HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE SEPTIC SYSTEM SERVICED EVERY FIVE YEARS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, A COPY OF THE SERVICE INVOICES TO BE PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
AND LASTLY, NUMBER FIVE, A WAIVER TO THE REQUIRED SETBACK OF 100 FEET TO NEIGHBORING DWELLING SHALL BE GRANTED FOR THE EXISTING 62 FOOT SETBACK TO THE DWELLING EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFIED THE APPLICANTS ARE WITH US THIS EVENING.
IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN WITH THE APPLICANT'S LIKE TO SPEAK.
I THINK I ASKED THAT, DIDN'T I? OKAY.
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WELL, WHILE HE'S COMING UP, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES.DID I UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT YOU SAID THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DENIED IT BECAUSE THERE WASN'T A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM A NEIGHBOR? YES.
SO THEY RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THE APPLICATION.
UM, IT'S STANDARD PROCEDURE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND DENIAL IF THERE'S NOT A SUPPORT LETTER.
FOR APPROVING THAT THE SETBACK, THEY DID NOT HAVE THE LETTER A, THERE'S A WAIVER.
SO THEY DID NOT HAVE THAT LETTER OF SUPPORT AT THE TIME OF THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT SINCE THEN THEY HAVE OBTAINED THAT LETTER.
MY NAME IS AARON BRICO WITH SHENANDOAH DISTRICT.
SO, UM, THE, IT WAS REJECTED BECAUSE OF THE HOUSE NEARBY, UM, FALLS WITHIN 100 FEET.
UM, SINCE THEN WE GOT IN CONTACT WITH THE OWNER.
UH, WE HAD THEM HAVE A LETTER THAT THEY SIGNED.
UH, WE HAVE THE EMAIL CHAIN AS WELL.
UM, I MEAN, WE SAID, DON'T WORRY, WE'RE GONNA, UH, KEEP TRACK OF YOUR PROPERTY.
WE ACTUALLY LOOKING OUT TO OUR BACK PORCH, WE CAN SEE OUR HOUSE THAT WE'RE REQUESTING THIS PERMIT FOR.
WE CAN SEE THE WHOLE ENTIRE PROPERTY ALONG WITH OUR, OUR NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE AS WELL.
THIS IS THE, THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE THAT, UH, FALLS FROM THE PROPERTY.
IT'S JUST BEEN ABANDONED FOR A LONG TIME ALONG WITH THE HOUSE THAT WE RENOVATED.
IT WAS ABANDONED SO WE RENOVATED IT AND, UH, IT LOOKS A LOT NICER NOW.
UM, WHAT ELSE HERE? YEAH, IT'S A PRETTY QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE INTEND TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.
UH, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE NEIGHBORS.
WE DON'T WANT ANY ROUTINGS GOING ON.
WE'RE GONNA MOSTLY DOING ONE OF THOSE DECAL METERS AS WELL.
UH, WE GOT RING CAMERAS, CONSTANT SURVEILLANCE OF THE PARKING SITUATION AND AROUND THE HOUSE.
UM, IT'S A HONEYMOON SUITE FOUR OCCUPANCY, STRICT HONEYMOON SUITE.
SO WE'RE DESIGNING IT TO BE THAT WAY AS WELL.
UM, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? OKAY, THANK YOU.
MR. HENDERSON, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP? UH, YES MA'AM.
MY NAME IS STILL LOUIS MOTON FROM THE NORTH RIVER DISTRICT AND THIS WILL BE MY LAST PERFORMANCE.
UM, SO, SO THE, UH, THE LAST, UH, HEARING THAT WE WERE JUST IN WAS ALSO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.
UM, I FOUND AN ANOTHER PROCESS ISSUE WITH THIS CASE, OR, OR, OR THIS, THIS HEARING AS WELL WITH THE DOCUMENTATION IN THAT THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN WAS NOT AVAILABLE UNTIL I REACHED OUT.
IT, UH, IT, IT HAS BEEN UPDATED FOR THIS BOARD PACKET TODAY.
IT IS STILL NOT UPDATED FOR, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO, SO MY CONCERN IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID NOT MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT THIS DURING THEIR, UM, THEIR PUBLIC HEARING OF, OF A MIX UP OR ANYTHING WITH THE TWO DOCUMENTS.
IT WAS, UM, 1 0 3, LOU CHASE ROAD WAS THE PMP FOR BOTH PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO, UM, I I LOVE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE LIKE RIGHT, RIGHT BEHIND THE PROPERTY.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE JOINED PRETTY MUCH, SO THEY'RE GOING TO WATCH OVER IT ALL THE TIME.
I'M GLAD THEY ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO SOMEBODY OF THE VACANT PROPERTY.
I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND I WAS HOPING THEY COULD DO IT, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN, UH, TONIGHT'S BOARD PACKET.
SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT, THAT, THAT THAT GOT RESOLVED.
SO, UM, I KNOW THERE, THERE SEEMS TO BE A PROCESS THAT WAS SKIPPED AND NOT ACKNOWLEDGED DURING THE, THE, THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO I DON'T THINK THEY HAD ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WAS NEEDED FOR THEM.
ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP? NO MA'AM.
WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SECOND CALL.
ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK? THIRD AND FINAL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 2026 DASH THREE DASH SEVEN FOR A SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF DISCUSSION.
THAT WAS GONNA BE MY NEXT THING.
SO MR. HENDERSON, MR. STEINMEYER? AYE.
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AYE.THESE ARE ALL OF OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
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AT CONSENT AGENDA AND ARE THERE ANY ITEMS TO PULL FOR DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED? SO MOVED.
IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL NEW BUSINESS? HEARING NONE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED.
WELL, I WANNA THANK EVERYONE FOR A NICE MEETING TONIGHT.
THOSE WHO CAME TO PARTICIPATE IN SAFE TRAVELS HOME.