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WELL, I DON'T, I THINK MY

[A. Closed Session ]

VOICE WILL CARRY ENOUGH FOR THIS.

UM, SPECIAL MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2026.

AND WE'RE GONNA START OFF WITH THE CLOSED SESSION.

AND MR. HENRY, I THINK YOU'VE GOT THAT MOTION.

IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND READING US INTO CLOSE.

SURE.

EXCUSE ME.

I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ENTER INTO A CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A ONE FOR THE DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION INTERVIEWS FOR PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES FOR EMPLOYMENT ASSIGNMENT, APPOINTMENT PROMOTION, PERFORMANCE, SALARIES, OR REGISTRATION OF A SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICE APPOINTEES OR EMPLOYEES OF THE PUBLIC BODY.

THE SUBJECT MATTER IS INTERVIEWS FOR WARREN COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.

I FURTHER MOVE THAT THE BOARD ENTER INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION TWO TWO DASH 3 7 1 1 A THREE FOR THE DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION.

DISPOSITION PUBLICLY HID REAL PROPERTY WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION TO NEGOTIATION STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY.

THE SUBJECT MATTER IS REAL PROPERTY LOCATED ON COUNTRY CLUB ROAD IN FRONT ROW VIRGINIA TAX MAP NUMBER 12 DASH FIVE SEVEN B TAX MAP 12 DASH FIVE SEVEN B ONE.

LASTLY, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS INTO CLOSED SECTION UNDER 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 A FIVE FOR THE DISCUSSION CONCERNING PERSPECTIVE BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY OR EXPANSION OF AN EXISTING BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY WHERE NO PROVISION ANNOUNCEMENTS HAS BEEN MADE FOR BUSINESSES OR INDUSTRIES.

INTEREST IN LOCATING OR EXPANDING IN FACILITIES AND COMMUNITY.

THE SUBJECT MATTER IS REAL PROPERTY LOCATED COUNTRY CLUB ROAD FRONT ROYAL VIRGINIA TAX MAP 12 5 7 B AND TAX MAP 12 5 7 B ONE SECOND.

SECOND.

ROLL CALL MR. HENDERSON.

DR.

JAMISON.

AYE.

MR. HENRY AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE.

MR. CARTER? AYE.

MR. STEINMEYER? AYE.

OKAY, WE WILL BE IN CLOSED SESSION.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

MR. HENRY, WILL YOU READ US OUT OF COURT? JOHN'S NOT HERE.

OH, SORRY.

JUST A SECOND.

I GUESS WE ARE SORRY ABOUT THIS COUGH.

IT'S ONLY BEEN A MONTH.

SORRY TO KEEP YOU WAITING.

OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

I OFFERED A FIVE MINUTE BREAK BEFORE AND THEY DECIDED TO COME AFTER.

SO.

ALRIGHT, MR. HENRY, IF YOU WILL NOW READ US OUT THE CLOSED SESSION PLEASE.

I MOVE THAT THE BOARD CERTIFIES TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS LAWFULLY EXEMPT FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 A, ONE A THREE, AND A FIVE OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM INFORMATION ACT AND ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVENED WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED AND CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING BY THE PUBLIC BODY.

SECOND.

SECOND RO HALL.

MR. HENDERSON, DR.

JAMESON AYE.

MR. HENRY? AYE.

MADAM CHAIR? AYE.

MR. CARTER? AYE.

MR. STAN MEYER.

AYE.

MADAM CHAIR, MAY I MAKE A MOTION? YES SIR.

UH, I MOVE TO APPOINT DAVID HARRISON, UH, TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND ROLL CALL MR. HENDERSON.

DR.

JAMESON? NO.

MR. HENRY? YES.

MADAM CHAIR.

YES.

MR. CARTER? AYE.

MR. SANDMEYER? NO.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR APPLYING AND UM, MR. HARRISON AND MS. WALL WILL PROBABLY BE GETTING IN TOUCH WITH YOU, SO THANK YOU BOTH.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

DO WE WANT A FIVE MINUTE BREAK OR MOVING ON? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU'S A GOOD IDEA.

ALL RIGHT.

FIRST

[C.1. Discussion - Update on Warren County Capital Improvement Projects (CIP)]

ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA IS UPDATE ON WARREN COUNTY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

UH, MS. MEADOWS, AS MENTIONED DURING MY BOARD REPORT LAST WEEK, WE HAVE STARTED WORKING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN ORDER TO GO THROUGH THE ACTUAL CIP PROCESS WITH THEM.

SO AT THAT POINT,

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OR I GUESS IN THE OCTOBER PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSION, THEY WILL BE GOING THROUGH ALL OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, UM, WITH EACH OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS IN ORDER TO SCORE THEM AND THEN RANK THEM.

SO THROUGH TWO DIFFERENT WORK SESSIONS, THE WORK THROUGH THEM, THE SECOND WORK SESSION, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A COMBINED WORK SESSION SO YOU ALL ARE A PART OF IT.

UM, AND THEN THEY WILL PUT TOGETHER A PACKET TO SUBMIT TO THE BOARD.

IT WILL GO THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS IN ORDER FOR YOU ALL TO ADOPT IT AND SAY, YES, THIS IS THE PATH WE WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD WITH CIPS.

SO BASICALLY IT'S RANKING THE PROJECTS AND IT TAKES EVERYTHING INTO CONSIDERATION ABOUT PEOPLE SERVED.

AND I THINK I SENT THE CRITERIA TO EVERYBODY.

UM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BASICALLY CREATE A LIST SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SO AS WE START GETTING OUR AUDITS BACK AND WE DO KNOW WHAT THE, UM, CARRYOVER OR THE, SORRY THE FUND BALANCES, HOW WE WANNA SPEND THOSE DOLLARS IN VERY INTENTIONAL MANNERS.

UM, RATHER THAN IT BEING KIND OF A, HEY, I'M YELLING FIRST SO I GET THE MONEY.

UM, WITH THAT IT DOES TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, SO FOR EXAMPLE, OUR ROCKLAND PARK PROJECT, IT IS A THREE YEAR GRANT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GET A TWO YEAR EXTENSION.

SO THE GRANT WOULD NORMALLY NEED TO BE FINISHED BY SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027.

SO WE CAN GET AN EXTENSION FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO YEARS.

UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, GIVEN THE AUDIT STATUS, WE PUT EVERYTHING ON HOLD AND SO WE WILL COME BACK AS TO THE PREFERENCE OF THE BOARD OF WHEN WE DO START MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.

UM, AND I WOULD WAIT AT LEAST A MONTH SO WE KNOW KIND OF WHAT WE WANNA DO WITH THAT.

UM, SO I'M NOT SURE WHETHER YOU ALL HAVE SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT.

UM, I THINK YOU HAVE THE INDEX, SO WE HAVE QUITE A FEW OR WHETHER YOU WANNA WAIT FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESS.

UM, WITH GOING THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS, IT WILL COME TO THE BOARD FOR A VOTE IN EITHER DECEMBER OR JANUARY.

SO I BELIEVE IN DECEMBER YOU WOULD VOTE ON IT IF YOU'RE READY AT THAT POINT.

UM, BUT IF THERE'S, I THINK WE PLANNED, DIDN'T WE SET A DATE OR AM I THINKING OF SOMETHING ELSE IN NOVEMBER WE WANTED TO HAVE THE JOINT WORK SESSION.

UM, SORRY, THE, I WAS SPEAKING WITH MS. WALL ABOUT THAT.

I THINK THE BOARD IS GOING TO BE INVITED TO THAT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AS PART OF A JOINT, UM, WORK SESSION WITH THAT.

SO TENTATIVELY IT'S GOING TO BE THAT THEIR PLANNING COMMISSION'S NIGHT AND THAT WOULD BE WHAT, NOVEMBER 18TH? IS THAT? THAT WAS THE DATE I WAS THINKING.

OKAY.

MS. SI DON'T HAVE THAT PROJECT LIST.

COULD I GIVE A FAIR COPY? MM-HMM .

THAT'S IT.

LOOK AT IT'S NOT YOUR, OKAY.

YEAH, I THINK IT WAS IN THE, THE, UM, MEMO SHE SENT US THE WEEKLY MEMO.

OKAY.

IT WAS THE WEEKLY MEMO.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

SORRY.

I THOUGHT YEAH, I DO.

YOU GOT, WE'RE WE'RE FINE.

HAVE ONLINE BUT OKAY.

UH, A VERY LONG LIST.

MM-HMM.

UM, AND I, I SAT THROUGH THE, UM, THE WORK SESSION THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD.

I THOUGHT THE PLAN THAT THEY HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, WELL THOUGHT OUT AND UM, THEN TO GET TOGETHER BOTH BOARDS, UM, BEFORE ANY DECISIONS MAKING TO TO HEAR THEY'RE GONNA DO IT AS INDIVIDUALS AND THEN GET TOGETHER AND GO OVER THEM AS A GROUP AND THEN MEET WITH US AND I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS WE COULD TAKE THAT LIST AND DO OUR OWN AS WELL AND COMPARE IT, UM, LIKEWISE TO, TO SEE HOW CLOSE WE ALL ARE WITH, WITH THE END PRODUCT THAT THEY CAME UP WITH.

YEAH.

WITH THE JOINT SESSION IT'LL ALLOW YOU THE TIME TO KIND OF TALK THROUGH WHY IT'S RANKED THE CERTAIN LEVEL.

UM, SO AT THAT POINT IF YOU FEEL LIKE THIS PROJECT SHOULD BE HIGHER RANKED, THEY CAN REORGANIZE THAT.

UM, I THINK NORMALLY IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN IT WOULD COME TO THE BOARD AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

AGAIN, WE'RE WANTING TO SHORTEN THE TIMEFRAME SO THAT'S WHY WE WOULD WANT THE JOINT MEETING IN ORDER FOR THE BOARD TO BE A PART OF THAT DISCUSSION PROCESS BEFORE IT'S THEN UM, BROUGHT TO YOU ALL FOR APPROVAL.

WELL IT MAKES SENSE TO DO IT THAT WAY.

UM, I DID A FEW OF THESE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND TERM OF THANK BACK ON, I DID A FEW OF THESE ON A PLANNING COMMISSION.

I NOTICED THIS ONE'S GOT SCHOOL STUFF ON IT.

MM-HMM .

TOO.

MM-HMM UH, WILL THE SCHOOL BOARD GET ANY INPUT ON THESE ITEMS? THESE ARE ITEMS THAT

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UM, THEY HAVE HISTORICALLY DONE AND THEY JUST SEND THE LIST TO US.

UM, SO WE CAN ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THESE SCORING AS WELL OR WHETHER THEY WANT TO KEEP IT SEPARATE.

UM, 'CAUSE NORMALLY THEY PRIORITIZE IT RATHER THAN OUR BOARD PRIORITIZING THEIR CAPITAL PROJECTS.

WELL I THINK THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS THEIR OWN CIP AND I THINK IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING IT NOW MM-HMM .

SO THAT IS PART OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.

IS IT DIFFERENT FROM WHOLE TOWN? THERE'S A DIFFERENT LIST THAN THIS ONE.

WE DO KNOW.

YOU WOULD KNOW IT'S THEIR LIST AND WE'LL SEE IT.

OH, THIS IS THEIR LIST.

OKAY, GOOD.

I FEEL MUCH BETTER.

I WAS .

YEAH, I WAS JUST MAKING SURE WE DIDN'T HAVE A SEPARATE LIST FROM WHAT THE SCHOOL WAS.

NO.

WE'RE UNIFIED IN.

GREAT.

OKAY.

YEP.

AND YOU'LL SEE THAT AS PART OF THE JOINT BUILDING COMMITTEE.

IT GETS DISCUSSED THERE FREQUENTLY.

NO.

OKAY.

I HAD A QUESTION ON THE SCHOOL STUFF.

UH, JUST SOMEBODY MENTIONED TODAY 'CAUSE I KNOW AND THEN, UH, I KNOW MR. KLINE'S HERE, BUT FOR HILDA J HAVE WE DONE THE ROOF OR DID WE GET THE NEW, GOT THE NEW CHILLER TOO, RIGHT? SOMEBODY WAS THINK MM-HMM BUT THE CHILLER STILL WORKING ON IT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT SOMEBODY SAID TOO, THAT THEY THOUGHT YOU HAD A TEMPORARY MEASURE FOR NOW, BUT OKAY.

I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.

BUT WE'RE STILL ON THE TEMPORARY CHILDREN.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, LIKE I SAID, THE MAIN THING AND I HAD, LET SEE WHERE DID I GO? UH, 'CAUSE I GUESS THE LAST MEETING I HAD A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT TOPICS AND YOU KIND OF ROLLED 'EM INTO THE CIP, WHICH A LOT OF 'EM WERE.

BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE TO ME THE ONE MOST PRESSING, NOT NECESSARILY 'CAUSE IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT, BUT THAT'S ROCK ROCKLAND PARK.

AND I KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY TOUCHED BASE ON THAT AND I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS HOLD UP IS THE, THE AUDITS.

BUT ME PERSONALLY, I CAN GET STARTED ON THAT AND I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THE MASTER PLAN'S BEEN UPDATED, IF WE WANNA DO ANYTHING WITH THAT OR IF THE PLAN'S READY TO GO.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF IT'S GIVEN THE, THE GO AHEAD SIGN, THEY WILL NEED TO UPDATE SOME OF THE STORM WATER AND POSSIBLY SOME OF THE LIGHTING ON IT.

AND AT THAT POINT IT WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO, UM, GO THROUGH REVIEW WITH BUILDING INSPECTIONS IN ORDER FOR US TO START CONSTRUCTION.

AND SOMEBODY MENTIONED TO ME TOO, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, THEY MENTIONED THEY THOUGHT THERE MIGHT BE SOME OR POTENTIAL FOR SINKHOLE OUT THERE, ROCKLAND PARK.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVER COME UP OR NOT.

THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT IT AND ACTUALLY IN TALKING TO, UM, I'M LIKE BILL, UM, FROM KIMLEY HORNE, I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY SINKHOLES OUT THERE.

UM OKAY.

BUT WITH THE AREA THERE'S, THERE ARE CAVERNS.

SURE.

AND SO THERE'S ALWAYS A RISK, RIGHT.

LIMESTONE IT COULD ALWAYS BE MM-HMM .

RIGHT? MM-HMM .

UM, BUT THAT ONE I'D LIKE TO SEE IS START ON AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

AND I THINK THE MAJORITY OF THAT FUNDING COULD COME FROM THE SURPLUS WE HAVE IN THE TOURISM RELATED.

WELL WE HAVE $200,000 DEDICATED TO IT ALREADY.

OKAY.

THAT HAS NOT BEEN SPENT.

OKAY.

BUT THERE'S LIKE 1.3 MM-HMM.

LISTED THERE TOO.

SO THAT GETS US THREE QUARTERS OF THE WAY THERE.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK.

WOULD WE HAVE TO, I GUESS NORMALLY WHERE WE KNEW WE HAD IN OUR FUND BALANCES AND ALL, WE COULD GO AHEAD AND, AND DRAW FROM THERE.

BUT, UM, LET'S SEE THERE.

THE OTHER THING TOO IS THAT, AND THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THAT MEETING, UH, THE PARKS AND REC WAS THE, THE ROYAL AVENUE TRAIL.

AND I ASSUME THAT'S THE ONE THAT GOES UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE.

CORRECT.

A GUY DONATED LIKE ONE AND A HALF MM-HMM .

ACRES.

SO, AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS IN THIS LARGE SCHEME OF THINGS.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW, WHAT THE COST, I DON'T HAVE, HAVE THEY COST OF THAT OUT? WE HAVE A, AN INITIAL ESTIMATE FOR THAT.

UM, BUT IT IS NOT A FIXED COST.

RIGHT.

WE WOULD NEED TO ACTUALLY PUT IT OUT THE BED, UM, IN ORDER TO SEE WHO'S DOING THAT WITH IT.

RIGHT.

UM, BUT WE DID GET, UM, FRED ANDRE WHO DONATED THE PROPERTY TO THE COUNTY.

HE ALSO HAS OFFERED TO HELP PAY FOR PART OF THE PROJECT.

OKAY.

UM, BUT THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION AS TO TO WHAT EXTENT.

UM, AND I THINK HIS IDEA OF WHAT THE PROJECT IS MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAD THE INITIAL ESTIMATE, UM, SCHEDULE.

I KNOW SOMEBODY SAID, I THINK OVER AT BOWMAN PARK AND WINCHESTER, THEY HAD LIKE A, A LITTLE GARDEN AREA WITH INDIGENOUS PLANTS MM-HMM .

AND THE, THE THING ABOUT THAT IS, UH, THE GOOD THING AS FAR AS MAINTAINING THAT, UH, WE, WE COULD RELY ON SOME OF THE VOLUNTEERS, THE MASTER GARDENERS AND JUST VOLUNTEERS TO GO OUT AND WEED IT.

IF THEY DO A GOOD JOB ON THAT, THEY COME DOWN TO MY GARDEN AND I'LL WEED THAT TOO.

UM, SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP TODAY AND I HAD NOT HEARD

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ANYTHING ABOUT IT AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON THIS LIST OR NOT.

I KNOW WHEN YOU CLARIFIED THAT THE SONAR PARK AND THAT'S UP THERE, IT'S IN THE NEAR ANDY GU STATE PARK I THINK.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

MM-HMM.

IT'S IN THE SOUTH RIVER DISTRICT, UM, JUST OFF OF INDIAN HOLLOW.

RIGHT.

UM, AND IT BUTTS UP TO ANDY GUST.

RIGHT.

AND IT'S ABOUT 30 ACRES BECAUSE I THINK I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE ALWAYS TRY TO DO TOO.

UM, WE TRY TO AT AT LEAST HAVE A PARK IN EACH DISTRICT.

MM-HMM .

AND I KNOW WE GOT, UM, AT, WHAT IS IT, OFF DISMAL HOLLOW, WE GOT THAT PARK THERE AND I THINK IT WAS, IT WAS TOUGH FINDING A PLACE IN THE, THE FOURTH DISTRICT.

THAT'S WHAT WE ALWAYS TRY TO DO.

HAVE LIKE A COMMUNITY PARK MM-HMM .

IN EACH DISTRICT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

OF COURSE WE GOT ROCKLAND PARK TOO.

UM, BUT SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP TODAY, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY GOT THAT FROM, BUT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE LITTLE PARK, I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF IT, ON UH, SHORT STREET, SHORT AND FRONT STREET, RIGHT BEHIND MCDONALD'S ON THE CORNER THERE BY THE MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

SOMEBODY SAID THEY WERE GONNA TURN THAT INTO A DOG PARK AT $250,000.

OKAY.

THERE'S BEEN NO YOU MEAN PLANNING TO DO THAT? YOU MEAN THERE'S RUMORS OUT THERE? WHAT? THINK THAT'S FAKE? NO, THAT'S WHAT JUST SOMEBODY SAID.

I HADN'T HEARD THAT.

YEAH.

WELL I HADN'T EITHER, BUT SOMEBODY DID.

OKAY.

UM, AND THAT'S GOOD TOO THAT, THAT THEY WE'RE GETTING STARTED ON THIS.

'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.

I THINK IN THE BUDGET PROCESS YOU GAVE US TWO BIG SHEETS OF ALL THESE PROJECTS AND, AND THAT WAS IN FINE PRINT TOO.

SO IT WAS A WHOLE LOT OF THEM.

AND I KNOW SOME OF THESE HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.

MM-HMM .

AND, AND WHAT I REMEMBER, AND I THINK YOU MAY HAVE A COPY OF IT, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE WE, WE WOULD, UH, REVIEW IT EVERY YEAR AND WE WOULD RANK 'EM MM-HMM .

AND YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PROJECTS WERE DONE, WE TAKE THOSE OFF THE LIST, SOME OF 'EM WOULD BE ADDED.

UH, BUT THERE'S A LOT, A LOT, A LOT OF THINGS HERE.

I KNOW LIKE FOR INSTANCE, THE LIBRARY.

I HEARD ABOUT THAT, UH, PRIOR TO GET ON THERE, THEY WERE HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH THEIR HVAC.

UM, AND I GUESS I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN HERE.

LET ME SEE.

AND I DON'T THINK, AND WE COULD JUST, I DON'T KNOW, PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR NOW.

BUT I DON'T KNOW THERE'S MUCH TO DISCUSS ON THAT NOW.

BUT, 'CAUSE THAT'S AN ONGOING PROJECT TOO.

AND THAT'S THE E WILSON MORRISON AND I KNOW THEY HAD A SCHOOL BOARD HAD A MEETING, THEY WERE BRIEF, BUT THEY'RE JUST STARTING TO GET INTO IT MM-HMM .

AS FAR AS THE EXTENT OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND, AND, AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO, TO UM, FIGURE OUT THE STRUCTURALLY WHAT'S, WHAT'S NEEDED.

UM, DO WE GOT A MEETING WITH HIM TOMORROW? YES.

AND I DID ASK DR. WRIGHT, UM, 'CAUSE THAT WAS ON YOUR, YOUR LIST OF THINGS AND, UM, HE WAS NOT READY TO COME GIVE A REPORT.

HE TOLD ME HE WOULD LET ME KNOW WHEN HE WAS READY TO COME AND, UM, DISCUSS THAT.

WHERE DID YOU THINK IT WAS? I THOUGHT WE HAD A MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT AND WE HAVE A, A JOINT SCHOOL BUILDING COMMITTEE MEETING TOMORROW AT FIVE.

THAT'S THE BUILDING COMMITTEE.

OKAY.

SO THE E WILSON THING BE A LITTLE SEPARATE OF IT.

SORT OF.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA, SO I JUST KNOW IT'S, WE HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW.

FAIR ENOUGH.

I'LL KNOW WHEN WE GET THERE.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE STARTING ON THIS 'CAUSE SO HOPEFULLY WE DON'T GET SURPRISED WITH, FOR INSTANCE, THE NEW CHILLER AND WE CAN START PLANNING FOR THESE THINGS AND KNOW WHEN THEY'RE COMING UP AND START PUTTING AWAY MONEY.

BUT I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THIS.

THANK YOU.

AND, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THE LIBRARY IS INCLUDED ON, ON THEIR ITEMS. SCHOOL HAS SUBMITTED ITEMS. I THINK I THINK WE'VE COVERED EVERYBODY WITH, UM, WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION WE'LL BE REVIEWING.

UM, AND AS FAR AS THE SAUNA PROPERTY, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DELICATE AREA UP THERE.

THERE'S A, A CEMETERY TO BE CONSIDERED.

IT'S UM, IT'S NOT ONE OF THOSE THROW UP A SWING SET IN A CO SEESAW AND LET'S HAVE FUN AREAS.

SO, UM, A LOT TO CONSIDER ON THAT ONE.

AND LET'S SEE, COMMUNICATION STRATEGY.

THERE WAS MAY, MAY, I, THERE WAS A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT I THOUGHT OF, IF YOU DON'T MIND ON THE THE OR UH, THE CIP.

OH I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU WERE DONE.

I CHANGED.

UM, AND THAT'S ON THERE TOO.

THE HAPPY CREEK FANTASY LAND PROJECT, WHICH I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THE PRIVATE FUNDED ON THAT ONE TOO.

MM-HMM .

AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

AND THEN I DIDN'T SEE IT ANYWHERE ELSE FROM THE LIST I I TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER DAY, BUT JUST VERY, VERY BRIEFLY AND YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY TOUCHED ON IT, BUT WE NEED THAT UPDATE ON THE FISCAL IMPACT MODEL, WHICH I KNOW IS

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BEING WORKED ON.

RIGHT.

UM, SO WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT AVENUES.

SO THE TOWN HAS AN UPDATED COPY, UM, BUT WITH LAUREN LEAVING, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT KELLY'S GOING TO TALK TO MR. WARE IN ORDER TO SEE WHETHER HE HAS A COPY OF IT.

UM, AND THEN WE SPOKE WITH THE REGIONAL COMMISSION ABOUT THEIR CAPACITY.

UM, THEY WERE OPEN TO IT BUT IT WASN'T NECESSARILY, UH, GONNA HAPPEN SOON.

UM, SO I'M NOT SURE THAT OUTSIDE OF US AND KELLY AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE 2018 MODEL THAT WE THOUGHT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY UPDATE IN-HOUSE POTENTIALLY.

OKAY.

LIKE I SAID, I JUST WANNA KEEP THAT OUT THERE.

MM-HMM .

BECAUSE YEP.

THAT'S A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF TO KEEP UP WITH.

I DO APPRECIATE YOU.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM .

ARE YOU SURE? PROBABLY NOT, BUT WE'LL TRY MOVING ON.

YOU'RE DONE.

UM,

[C.2. Discussion - Communication Strategy for Vacant Position Announcements]

COMMUNICATION STRATEGY FOR VACANT POSITION ANNOUNCEMENTS.

SO WE HAD, I THINK LAST MEETING THERE WERE SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW CAN WE BETTER COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC AND MR. HENDERSON AND I SPOKE BRIEFLY LAST WEEK AND HE CAME OUT WITH A GREAT PLAN IF YOU WANNA GO OVER IT WITH THE BOARD.

SO I AM GONNA START, UM, AT LEAST SOMEWHAT MANAGING OUR WARREN COUNTY FACEBOOK PAGE.

AND THIS IS JUST THE COUNTY OF WARRANTS.

THIS ISN'T THE SHERIFF'S OR FIRE AND RESCUE PARKS AND REC.

THEY HAVE DEDICATED PEOPLE FOR THAT SPECIFICALLY.

AND WHAT I'M THINKING IS JUST A MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY POSTING OF TRANSPARENT, VERY GENERAL INFORMATION.

SO, UM, FIRST UP WE'RE GONNA HAVE FOUR PINNED POSTS AT THE TOP OF OUR PAGE, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW OR NOT.

THEY'RE POSTS THAT STAY ON THE TOP.

SO THEY'RE GONNA BE THE FIRST THING THAT EVERYONE SEES EVERY TIME THEY VISIT OUR PAGE.

AND THAT'S GONNA BE A LINK TO OUR MEETING SCHEDULE, A LINK TO THE MEETING POLICY AND PROCEDURES AND COMMITTEE LIST IS GONNA BE A LINK TO THE WEBSITE WHERE SPECIFICALLY WHERE THE AGENDAS ARE KEPT AND WHERE THE MEET THE MEETING VIDEO PAGES ARE KEPT.

AND LASTLY, IT'S JUST GONNA BE A LINK THAT SHOWS THE 26, 27 APPROVED BUDGET.

NOW TECHNICALLY ALL THOSE CAN BE IN ONE POST SINCE THEY'RE JUST LINKS, BUT THEY'LL JUST, THAT INFORMATION'S GOING TO BE THE FIRST THING EVERYONE SEES.

AND SO ON MONDAY THERE'S GOING TO BE A REMINDER POST JUST OF THE NEXT BOARD OF SUPERVISOR MEETING AND IT'S GONNA INCLUDE A LINK TO WHERE IT'S GONNA BE LIVE STREAMING AND ALSO WHERE THE PEOPLE CAN VIEW THE AGENDA AND THE AGENDA PACKET.

AND THAT'S ALL PUBLIC INFORMATION.

NO ONE NEEDS A LOGIN TO VIEW THAT.

IT'S ALWAYS ON THE PAGE AFTER I PUBLISH IT.

AND THEN EVERY TUESDAY IS GOING TO BE A POST ABOUT OUR CURRENT COUNTY EMPLOYEE VACANCIES.

JUST TO KIND OF UPDATE ON THAT, I BELIEVE, I DON'T WANNA ASSUME THINGS, BUT I BELIEVE MS. DAR IS WORKING ON OR HAS COMPLETED SOME PAMPHLET OR A BROCHURE THAT JUST SAYS, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER.

CLICK HERE TO APPLY IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THIS IS WHO YOU CALL.

AND THAT'S GONNA BE EVERY SINGLE TUESDAY AS THAT GETS UPDATED.

AND SORRY, ON WEDNESDAY IT'S JUST GONNA BE A REALLY SIMPLE RECAP OF THE PREVIOUS NIGHT'S MEETING.

IT'S NOT GONNA BE A COMMENTARY, IT'S NOT GONNA BE AN ARTICLE, FRANKLY THAT'S HIS JOB.

IT'S JUST GONNA BE A LIST OF ALL THE AGENDA ITEMS, WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS APPROVED WITH THE VOTE AND IF THERE'S ANY RELEVANT NEXT STEPS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE APPROVE AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE.

YES, FIVE TO ZERO PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE IN APPROXIMATELY ONE MONTH, THAT KIND OF THING.

AND ALSO ON WEDNESDAY IS GONNA BE A, A POST THAT JUST SHARES RELEVANT DEPARTMENT HEAD NEWS THAT ANYONE IN THE COUNTY CAN SHARE IF THEY WANT TO OR ANY DEPARTMENT HEAD.

SO I'M GOING TO EMAIL THEM EVERY MONDAY JUST SAYING, HEY, WHAT DO YOU ALL WANT TO SHARE THIS WEEK? AND THAT'LL BE COLLECTED AND SHARED EVERY WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY IS GOING TO BE A POST OF OUR CURRENT VACANCIES FOR CITIZEN APPOINTMENTS.

AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SEVERAL VACANCIES THAT FRANKLY HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY TRACTION IN OVER A YEAR.

AND MAYBE THIS IS WHY PEOPLE WE JUST DON'T KNOW.

AND ON FRIDAY THERE'S JUST GONNA BE A NOTIFICATION ON WHEN THE AGENDA GETS PUBLISHED AND JUST INCLUDE A LINK LIKE THAT.

AND I'M THINKING MAYBE EVERY MONTH, LIKE ON THE LAST DAY OF EACH MONTH, THERE'LL BE A POST THAT SAID, THE BOARD HELD X AMOUNT OF PUBLIC HEARINGS, THEY PASSED THIS MANY RESOLUTIONS, THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE.

AND JUST TO KIND OF HAVE LIKE A MONTHLY SUMMARY ON EVERY MAJOR ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN AND WHAT THAT CAN MEAN.

AND UM, THIS IS STILL, WE'RE STILL GONNA BE SHARING LIKE RELEVANT INFORMATION.

'CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHAT GETS SHARED RIGHT NOW IS IT'S REALLY REACTIVE.

SO IF THERE'S LIKE A NUMBER, LIKE WHEN WE CHANGE THE VENUE FOR THE AUGUST 18TH

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MEETING, WE PUT THAT ON OUR FACEBOOK.

BUT IT'S USUALLY AS JUST AS STUFF HAPPENS, WE SHARE IT THERE.

SO WE'RE GONNA BE MORE PROACTIVE WITH THIS AND JUST KIND OF HAVE THAT REVOLVING DOOR OF INFO THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE CURIOUS ABOUT AND GIVE THE PEOPLE RESOURCES IMMEDIATELY SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO LOOKING FOR IT.

SO WE'LL JUST CREATE THAT CENTRAL HUB OF ALL OF THAT INFO SO PEOPLE CAN JUST GO THERE FIRST INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FIGURE EVERYTHING OUT.

'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE MISINFORMATION COMES FROM ON THE, ON THE, UH, VA UH, CITIZEN, UH, VACANCIES.

UH, IS IT WORTH PUTTING A LINK IN THERE FOR THE FORM? YEAH.

'CAUSE PEOPLE, THERE'S GONNA, THERE'S GONNA BE A LINK WITH JUST ABOUT ALL OF THESE AND BECAUSE THE CITIZEN APPOINTMENTS, THEY APPLY DIRECTLY ON THAT PAGE AND YOU FILL IT OUT THERE.

THE EMAIL, ONCE IT'S DONE, I GET NOTIFIED AND I SEND IT TO THE BOARD AND WHOMEVER DEPARTMENT HEADS MAY BE WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THAT.

SO ALL OF THEM ARE GONNA INCLUDE LINKS TO HOW THEY EXACTLY DO THIS.

DO WE, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M NOT ON THE LOCAL TV UH, SITUATION THERE, WHAT WAS IT CHANNEL, I THINK IT WAS 23 AT ONE TIME AND THEN 16 OR MAYBE VERY VERSE THAT KINDA STREAMED IT HAD MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND.

BUT INFORMATION STREAMING ALL DAY, IS THAT STILL SOMETHING THAT GOES ON AND IS THAT A PLACE THAT WE COULD UTILIZE TO PUT SOME OF THIS STUFF OUT OR ALL OF THIS STUFF RATHER? YEAH, SO WE CURRENTLY OPERATE CHANNEL 16 ON COMCAST CHANNEL AND CHANNEL FOUR ON GLOW FIBER.

WE BOTH COME OUT OF THIS OFFICE OFF OF A COMPUTER WE HAVE IN HERE.

THE SOFTWARE THAT WE USE FOR THAT, FOR THAT PROGRAMMING HAS NOT BEEN WORKING PROPERLY FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

I ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING WITH THE TOWN TODAY 'CAUSE THE TOWN PUT STUFF ON THERE AND WE PUT STUFF ON THERE.

WE'RE EXPECTED TO HAVE THAT UM, PEG FEED CHANNEL IF YOU WILL SET UP PROPERLY IN THE NEXT 30 TO 60 DAYS.

AND ANY INFORMATION THAT ZACH OR ANYBODY WANTS TO SHARE AND THAT WILL BE ON THERE.

WE'RE ALSO WORKING AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH, YOU KNOW, CHANGING SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT IN HERE FOR VIDEO PODCASTING, MAKING SURE THAT THESE MEETINGS ARE ON THOSE CHANNELS AS WELL.

UM, AND SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS GOING ON WITH THAT AND UPDATING BOTH CHANNEL 16 AND CHANNEL FOUR WITH WHATEVER PERTINENT INFORMATION WE DECIDE TO PUT ON THERE.

SO I'LL GIVE YOU SOME MORE INFORMATION ON IT WHEN I HAVE MORE DETAILS.

OKAY.

AND UM, REAL QUICK, THIS IS ALL GONNA START, I DUNNO IF I MENTIONED IT OR NOT.

LIKE, UH, MR. JONES IS HELPING ME GET THE ACCOUNT SET UP FOR MYSELF ON FACEBOOK SO I CAN GO IN AND POST THINGS AND REALLY KIND OF CONTROL IT.

AND THAT'S IN A PERFECT WORLD, GONNA START MINIMUM OCTOBER 1ST.

CLEANER.

ZACH IS FOR SOME REASON FACEBOOK, ZACH'S, FACEBOOK SAYS ZACH DOESN'T MEET COMMITTEE STANDARDS.

SO I TRIED TWICE TO GET THE CONCEPT SET UP AND KEEPS FAILING.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT, BUT I'LL LEAVE THAT TO YOU GUYS.

UM, WELL I KNOW BACK SEVERAL YEARS AND I BROUGHT THE IDEA AND IT DROPPED AND NEVER WENT ANYWHERE.

UM, ONE OF THE VACO CHAIR, VICE CHAIR TRAININGS I WENT TO, UM, BOTTON COUNTY HAD.

UM, AND THE SUPERVISOR THAT THEY SHOWED THE CLIP OF THE VIDEO WAS THERE.

BILLY MARTIN, HE DID, I DON'T, I THINK IT WAS WEEKLY.

THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE WHERE THEY DID A LITTLE VIDEO AND HE'D BE LIKE WALKING DOWN THE HALL OR OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, WHATEVER OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND THAT WEEK OR THAT WHATEVER TIME ZONE, UM, OF NOT JUST WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH SUPERVISORS, BUT WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY EVENTS COMING UP.

UM, AND IT WAS REALLY EYE CATCHING.

UM, AND IT GAVE YOU A LITTLE MORE, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO COMMUNICATE.

UM, JUST THROWING THAT OUT AS AN IDEA OF A SHORT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANNA DO ANYTHING THIS TOO LONG 'CAUSE PEOPLE LOSE THEIR FOCUS ON IT.

BUT A SHORT BLURP OF, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON IN SOUTH RIVER DISTRICT OR WHAT IF ANYBODY ELSE DOESN'T WANNA DO IT OR WHATEVER, GIVE A LIST.

AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD DO A QUICK JUST TO SEE, I MEAN I'M THINKING OUT OF THE BOX ON ANYTHING 'CAUSE WE'RE CONTINUALLY HEARING THIS.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE, I MEAN MY AREA, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW, THE BROWNTOWN AREA HAS BEEN OUTTA LANDLINE SERVICE FOR FIVE DAYS.

I FINALLY GOT A CONTACT TODAY AND I CHECKED AND I THINK THEIR, THEIR PHONES ARE BACK ON.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH MY CONTACT, BUT, UM, THEY'RE NOT GREAT ON INTERNET SERVICE, BUT THEY DO.

YOU CAN GET THE RADIO THERE.

UM,

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SO, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE DIFFERENT AVENUES OF HOW TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE.

I THINK OF PEOPLE LIKE MY FATHER-IN-LAW.

WE DON'T GET THE CABLE TO SEE THAT 23 OR 16 RATHER CHANNEL, BUT A LOT OF THE ELDERLY THAT ONLY LOOK AT THE NEWSPAPER OR WATCH THAT CHANNEL AS ONE OF THEIR, UM, JEOPARDY, YOU KNOW, THAT LIST THAT THEY GET INTO, THEY MIGHT CATCH IT ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE, I'M GONNA BE HONEST, I'M GONNA STRUGGLE FINDING IT ON OUR FACEBOOK 'CAUSE IT'S, I DON'T SURF THE WEB.

WELL, UM, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ALL THE LITTLE NICHES OF HOW YOU GET TO PEOPLE SO THAT THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE WE ARE NOT TRYING TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT TO THEM.

AND IF YOU GOT A SUGGESTION OTHER THEN I WOULD SAY LET MR. HENDERSON KNOW SINCE HE'S TAKEN THE WHEEL OF THIS BUS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

I'D JUST SAY THAT THAT SOUNDS LIKE A BIG STEP FORWARD.

MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, APPRECIATE A LOT OF FORETHOUGHT THERE.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN A SORT OF, WHEN THE INTERNET CAME, PEOPLE HAD TO DISCOVER HOW TO GO TO IT AND FIND IT.

AND THEN WE'RE NOW IN A, IN A PUSH WORLD SO EVERYTHING'S PUSHED AND EVERYBODY HAS THE THING AND THEY WANT IT TO BE PUSHED TO THEM.

MM-HMM .

UH, SO WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS GONNA PUSH SOME THINGS AND I'M SURE OVER TIME THERE WILL BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND SOME DIFFERENT IDEAS.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT, GREAT TEMPLATE TO START WITH.

AND UH, I THINK IT'LL BE A BIG DIFFERENCE MAKER.

OF COURSE NOT EVERYONE'S ON FACEBOOK, SO IT'S NOT SOLVING EVERY PROBLEM, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION I THINK.

YEAH.

I'M AMAZED AT HOW YOU'RE GONNA FIGURE THAT INTO EVERYTHING ELSE YOU DO, BUT I'M SURE YOU WILL.

OKAY.

UM, MOVING

[C.3. Discussion - Meeting Policy & Procedures - Calendar Year 2027]

ON, MEETING POLICY AND PROCEDURES AND THE CALENDAR YEAR OF 2027.

I THINK THE LAST MEETING, AND I MADE A COUPLE OF NOTES.

UM, THE, DO WE WANT TO DETERMINE A TIME FOR POSTING WHEN WE DO HAVE VACANT CITIZEN APPOINTMENT POSITIONS? SO DO WE WANT THEM TO BE POSTED FOR TWO WEEKS, 30 DAYS AT MINIMUM BEFORE WE START INTERVIEWS? I WASN'T SURE IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WANTED TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER FOR WHEN YOU ESTABLISH YOUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FOR 2027.

UM, 'CAUSE YOU'LL BE VOTING FOR THOSE IN JANUARY.

UM, 'CAUSE I THINK THAT KIND OF IN THE PAST WE'VE DONE THINGS A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS AND SO I THINK IT'D PROBABLY BE A GOOD IDEA TO STREAMLINE IT AND COME UP WITH A APPROACH THAT WORKS FOR ALL OF YOU.

I I THINK WE, WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT AND, AND THAT HASN'T BEEN CONSISTENT AND TWO WEEKS SEEMS REASONABLE, BUT THEN IT MAY NEED AN EXTENSION IF IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT NOBODY'S KNOCKING THE DOOR DOWN TO DO.

YEAH.

I THINK IT, I THINK WHAT ZACH'S TALKING ABOUT IS, IS A BIG STEP TO PROACTIVELY PUSH IT RATHER THAN HAVING PEOPLE COME AND PULL IT.

THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG STEP.

TWO WEEKS.

IT COULD BE.

I I THINK IT, I AGREE THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF AMOUNT OF TIME THAT STAYS OPEN.

I DO AGREE WITH THAT.

UH, PUTTING A A DEFINITE, I MEAN, WE COULD ALSO AGREE IT COULD, SHOULD BE LIKE THE ASSUMPTION MAX.

LIKE WE'RE NOT WAITING THREE MONTHS.

I MEAN WE, WE COULD MM-HMM .

BUT, BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO BRASS TACKS, LIKE WHAT'S THE NUMBER TWO WEEKS? IT DEPENDS ON WHEN IT IS.

IF IT'S SUMMER VACATIONS AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS, MAYBE THAT'S, THAT'S IN SUFFICIENT.

MAYBE IT'S RELATED TO A NUMBER OF, UH, APPLICANTS.

I MEAN IF THERE'S TWO APPLICANTS WITHIN TWO WEEKS, THEN TWO WEEKS IS ENOUGH.

IF IT, IF THERE'S ONLY ONE AND MAYBE IT NEEDS ANOTHER WEEK AND ANOTHER BUMP OF ADVERTISING TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW.

UM, RADIO HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED BUT I KNOW I HEAR ALL THE TIME MM-HMM .

MORE COUNTY RADIO THINGS.

MAYBE THAT'S ANOTHER, A VENUE, UM, TO MAKE SURE IT GETS ANNOUNCED ON.

SO, UM, SORRY I'M JUST MUDDLING THE WATER, BUT, BUT WELL I THINK YOU ALMOST HAVE TO, 'CAUSE IF, IF WE SAY TWO WEEKS, UM, OR THREE WEEKS OR A MONTH, WHATEVER THAT IS, YOU ALMOST HAVE TO SET A DATE BECAUSE OKAY, WHAT IF YOU THREE PEOPLE GOT IN AND THE, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A TIME ZONE AND THEN WE SET THE DATE TO DO THE INTERVIEWS AND THE DAY OF THE INTERVIEW SOMEBODY ELSE APPLIES.

IS THAT GONNA BE CONSIDERED? AND THEN WE PUSH IT OUT.

SO I THINK THERE HAS TO BE A CUTOFF.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

MAKES SENSE.

I THINK ON A CITIZEN'S APPOINTMENT, TWO WEEKS PROBABLY IS ENOUGH, BUT FOR

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VACANT EMPLOYMENT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY LOOKING FOR A JOB.

OH YEAH, THAT'S, YEAH.

TWO WEEKS IS NOT ENOUGH TO, TO PUT OUT FOR AN ACTUAL, SOMEBODY'S GONNA MOVE, YOU KNOW, COME HERE FOR A PERMANENT JOB.

WHEN WE POST POSITIONS, WE POST THEM FOR AT LEAST SEVEN DAYS.

UM, BUT WE KEEP THEM POSTED UNTIL THEY'RE FILLED.

SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE PUT AN END DATE.

UM, BECAUSE WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT KIND OF SHUTTING OUT THAT CANDIDATE WHO MAYBE STUMBLED UPON IT A COUPLE WEEKS LATER.

OKAY.

SO THAT, THAT ONE KIND OF STAYS OPEN ENDED.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

UNTIL YOU GET ENOUGH APPLICANTS.

YEAH.

OR GET SOMEBODY YOU LIKE, I GUESS.

MM-HMM .

I THINK THE THING THAT HAPPENED RECENTLY WAS WITH THE ONE PLANNING COMMISSIONER STEPPING DOWN, A LOT OF PEOPLE WEREN'T AWARE MM-HMM .

OF THAT POSITION BEING OPEN.

SO I GUESS MAYBE YOU TOUCHED, TOUCHED BASE ON THAT TOO, BUT I GUESS ESPECIALLY PROBABLY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS THE MOST OBVIOUS.

MM-HMM .

BUT ONCE THAT POSITION IS, UH, VACATED, UH, POST THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, UH, AGAIN, A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THAT WAS VACANT FOR A WHILE.

AND I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN WE CAN KEEP KICKING THAT AROUND EITHER TWO, TWO WEEKS, THREE WEEKS, WHATEVER.

BUT UM, THAT GOES TO THE SAME THING AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BETTER COMMUNICATE, BUT NO MATTER HOW GREAT A JOB WE DO, PEOPLE ARE STILL GONNA SAY THEY DIDN'T SEE IT.

AND I GUESS IF YOU GAVE IT, AND THERE AGAIN WE COULD DECIDE ON THAT, BUT IF YOU GAVE IT 30 DAYS, AT LEAST THAT WAY SOMEBODY FINDS OUT ABOUT IT DAY AFTER TWO WEEKS, TWO WEEKS SEEMS LIKE IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT SHORT, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT ESPECIALLY WITH EVERYBODY BEING BUSY.

AND I GUESS THE OTHER THING TOO IS, AND I WANNA BE PART OF THE POLICY AND PROCEDURES THAT KIND OF, WE TALKED ABOUT AND WE DID THAT TONIGHT.

BUT AGAIN, I SAID THAT BEFORE, I THINK EVERY TIME ARE PEOPLE TAKE THE TIME TO PUT IN AN APPLICATION WE SHOULDN'T INTERVIEW 'EM MM-HMM .

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR DOWN THE LIST WE WANT TO GO.

I MEAN, I GUESS WELL IN SOME RESPECTS, EVEN IF IT'S JUST ONE APPLICANT MM-HMM .

UM, OBVIOUSLY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS IMPORTANT.

THE BZA, YOU KNOW, YOU GET SOME OF THE OTHER ONES.

THE TOWING BOARD, BOARD EQUALIZATION, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF ZACH TOUCHED ON THAT OR NOT, BUT I KNOW I HEARD WHAT HE SAID ABOUT POSTING ON FACEBOOK AND THE LINKS AND I GUESS IT'S ALL, IT'S ALWAYS ON THE WEBSITE TOO.

AND I GUESS IT MAY BE TOUCHED ON THAT.

I, I MAY NOT HAVE HEARD, BUT THE OTHER THING WE MENTIONED TOO IS THAT, UH, THE ADMINISTRATORS REPORT EVERY MEETING SAY WE'VE GOT THESE, UH, SPOTS OPEN.

SO LIKE I SAID, I, THERE WAS A LOT OF STUFF AND I HAVE DIFFICULTY HEARING SOMETIMES, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WAS OUT THERE TOO.

THANK YOU.

OH, I'LL LIKE TO BACK YOU UP ON THAT INTERVIEW THING BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT, FOR EXAMPLE, I MEAN THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT LEVELS, BUT THERE YOU COULD ALL, WE COULD SAY THEY'RE ALL IMPORTANT, BUT WE COULD SAY MAYBE SOME ARE MORE IMPORTANT, BUT JUST 'CAUSE THERE'S ONE APPLICANT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S THE ONE YOU GOTTA CHOOSE.

MAYBE, MAYBE IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE.

WELL I THINK INTERVIEWING SOMEONE SETS THE EXPECTATION AS A BOARD.

YOU'RE ABLE TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE EXPECT FROM THAT POSITION.

UM, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN SOMEONE READS THE POSTING, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, OKAY.

THEY MAY NOT REALIZE EXACTLY WHAT IT ENTAILS.

AND BY SPEAKING TO YOU AND FINDING OUT WHAT IT DOES ENTAIL AND WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE, THEY MAY SAY NO.

UM, OR THEY ARE DEFINITELY INTERESTED.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE SIGNING UP FOR.

AND SO I THINK ALL CANDIDATES IS A GOOD, AT LEAST IN MY TIME ON THE BOARD, UM, 'CAUSE I'VE HAD TO APPOINT SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS AND I WAS TOLD IT'S MY JOB TO FIND SOMEONE.

UM, SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO SET A POLICY THAT IS CONSISTENT ON HOW WE DO THIS SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

UM, I, I WENT OUT AND LOOKED LIKE I WAS TOLD TO DO, HAD DONE WITH EVERYONE ELSE AND FOUND SOMEONE WILLING TO DO IT.

AND THEN AT THE LAST MINUTE WAS ALREADY EVERYBODY HAD SEEN THE APPLICATION, AGREED ON THE APPLICATION, WAS READY TO VOTE ON IT WHEN THE APPLICATION CAME IN.

SO I'M, I'M SORRY IT, IT PLAYED OUT THAT WAY.

BUT TO CURE THAT PROBLEM, I THINK THE BEST THING TO DO IS TO SET A POLICY.

ARE WE GOING TO, UH, ANNOUNCE THEM ALL, NOT GO OUT LOOKING FOR THEM UNLESS I GUESS IF NO ONE APPLIES AND WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING TO, TO, TO GET THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND THEN CERTAINLY INTERVIEW.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM INTERVIEWING FOR ANY OF THESE POSITIONS.

UM, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE A SET CONSISTENCY OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

NOT WELL, WE'RE GONNA DO IT THE OLD WAY THIS TIME AND WE'RE GONNA DO IT THIS WAY NEXT TIME.

IT'S, IT JUST DOESN'T WORK WELL FOR ME.

MY THOUGHTS ON THAT,

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I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD.

I, I WOULD SUPPORT THE 30 DAYS SITTING HERE THINKING TWO WEEKS ISN'T MUCH TIME.

ALL 30 DAYS DOES MAKE BETTER SENSE, BUT THAT WOULD GIVE IT A CUTOFF.

AND THEN AT THE END OF THE 30 DAYS, IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY APPLICANTS OR DIDN'T FEEL THAT YOU HAD A QUALIFIED APPLICANT, THE BOARD COULD ALWAYS VOTE TO EXTEND THAT ALL.

BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED, SAID, HEY, WE'VE HAD THIS OUT 30 DAYS AND WE GOT ONE PERSON AND WE LOOK AT THE RESUME.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S ALL YOU GOT, YOU MAY INTERVIEW 'EM.

BUT IF WE, FOR WHATEVER REASON WE FELT WE COULD EXTEND THAT TIME AND THEN I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO BE TOLD TO GO OUT AND LOOK FOR SOMEBODY IF IT'S, IF IT'S YOUR DISTRICT AND THEY ANNOUNCE HERE THAT IT'S PLANNING CONDITION, YES IT'D BE ADVERTISED.

BUT I WOULD STILL FEEL OBLIGATED TO KICK A FEW DOORS.

I WOULDN'T NEED TO BE, HEY BOB.

MM-HMM.

YOU KNOW, IF I THOUGHT SOMEBODY WOULD BE GOOD AT IT OR WAS INTERESTED IN IT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, I WOULD DEFINITELY PICK UP THE PHONE IN ADDITION.

OH DEFINITELY.

AND SAY, HEY, BUT BY THE WAY, THIS IS OUT FOR APPLICATION, BUT REALLY LIKE, SEE YOU PUT YOUR APPLICATION IN AND YOU COULD STILL GIVE THEM A LITTLE PUSH.

OH, SO YOU KIND OF DO BOTH.

I AGREE.

YEAH, I AGREE.

I THINK THEY'RE SEPARATE ISSUES.

THERE'S NOTHING AND, AND WHATSOEVER TO PREVENT A SUPERVISOR FROM CALLING SOMEONE THEY THINK WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE ROLE, UH, THAT'S SEPARATE FROM, THEY STILL HAVE TO APPLY, STILL HAVE TO INTERVIEW, STILL HAVE TO VOTE ON, ON, ON THE, ON THE APPOINTMENT.

AND I THINK, AND I AGREE, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH US RECRUITING FOR ANYBODY AND THE DI AND, AND THE THING THAT HAPPENED WITH REFERENCE TO MS COLORS WAS WE'D ONLY HAD ONE APPLICATION AT THAT TIME AND THAT SINCE THAT WAS ONLY ONE, BUT THEN WE GOT A SECOND ONE AND THAT'S WHY I FELT IT WAS UH, WORTHWHILE TO AT LEAST GO AHEAD AND INTERVIEW BOTH THOSE CANDIDATES AT THAT TIME.

'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, IF YOU JUST HAD ONE AT THAT TIME, IT'S KINDA LIKE A NO BRAINER.

BUT WHEN YOU GET ANOTHER PERSON THAT TAKES THE TIME TO PUT IN THERE, IT'S AT LEAST WORTH LETTING THEM, UH, DOING A, A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTERVIEW AND, AND I DON'T DISAGREE IF IT HAD BEEN IN A MORE TIMELY MATTER, BUT IT WAS THE LAST MINUTE .

YEAH.

SO THERE'S WHERE HAVING A CONSISTENT DATE CUT OFF THEN WOULD ALLEVIATE THAT PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE.

IS, IS EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE WITH 30 DAYS OR IS THAT UH, TOO LONG OR NOT LONG ENOUGH? 30 DAYS.

I THINK THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT.

AND THEN IF EXTEND IF NEEDED, I, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IN MY MIND IS IF THERE'S A LOT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION PLATE THAT'S THAT'S PUSHING OUT IF THEY HAVE ISSUES GETTING A QUORUM, UM, OTHERWISE 30 DAYS, I'M FINE WITH IT.

BUT YOU KNOW, NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE A MEETING BECAUSE OF LACK OF QUORUM.

WELL IF HE WAS IN THAT SITUATION, WE MIGHT HAVE TO DO SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.

YEAH, WELL THAT CAN ALWAYS HAPPEN.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY GOES ON VACATION OR WHATEVER, BUT I THINK FOR A QUORUM FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE THREE.

SO, AND THERE AGAIN, THEY CAN ALWAYS REARRANGE YOUR SCHEDULE IF THEY NEED TO.

IF SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE OUTTA TOWN FOR THAT DAY AND THEY'LL BE BACK.

SO I THINK A BOARD MEMBER CAN BE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

PARDON ME? A BOARD MEMBER IS ALLOWED TO BE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO IF WE GOT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HAPPENED WITH THE APPLICATION AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM, WE COULD TEMPORARILY REPORT ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNTIL WE GOT A PERMANENT REPLACEMENT.

I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, HEY WE AIN'T GOT TWO.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY APPLICANT, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? BOARD MEMBERS ARE ALLOWED TO BE IN SOME COUNTIES THAT IS RECOMMENDED THAT ACTUALLY ONE BOARD MEMBER BE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND KNOW SOME, SOME COUNTIES LOOK AT IT DIFFERENT.

BUT THAT, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, IF WE ABSOLUTELY DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD EMERGENCY BAILOUT.

IS IT? YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF IT'S YOUR DISTRICT, YOU MM-HMM .

DRAW THE LUCKY STRAW HAVING TO FILL, FILL THE OTHER SEAT FOR A MONTH OR SO.

RIGHT.

IF NEED BE.

OKAY.

REASONABLE TO ME.

SO DID YOU STILL, I THINK YOU GOT ON THERE TOO.

UH, MAYBE YOU'RE GETTING READY TO ADDRESS THAT.

BUT AS FAR AS THE CALENDAR YEAR, AS FAR AS MEETING SCHEDULE, IF YOU ALL WANT, WE CAN MAKE THE CHANGE, UH, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE POSTING IT, BUT IN ORDER TO FORMALIZE IT, YOU'LL HAVE TO VOTE ON IT.

UM, SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WANTED IT FOR 26TH OR WHETHER YOU WANNA VOTE IT ON IT IN JANUARY.

I THOUGHT WE HAD TO VOTE ON IT.

WE, YOU HAVE HAVE TO VOTE ON IT IN JANUARY.

YEAH, WE HAVE THE, WE CAN START THE PRACTICE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO VOTE TO AMEND YOUR CURRENT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES OR WHETHER YOU WANT US TO JUST START FOLLOWING THE PRACTICE AND THEN YOU VOTE FOR IT IN JANUARY FOR 27.

I'M OKAY WITH THE MEETING, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST AND THE THIRD ONE BEING A REGULAR MM-HMM .

I MEAN IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING, IF THAT'S A PART OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

OH, I THOUGHT WE WERE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE 30 DAY NO, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE 30 DAYS FOR A VACANCY RIGHT NOW.

YEAH.

OH YEAH, YEAH.

NO 30 DAYS WAS IT? I WOULD SAY GO AHEAD AND, YOU KNOW, KEEP THAT IN MIND AND THEN JUST VOTE ON IT IN JANUARY SINCE THAT'S WHEN WE SET THE, UH, UPCOMING YEAR.

BUT AS FAR AS THE CALENDAR YEAR, I THINK, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY KEEP THE CURRENT REGULAR

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MEETINGS THE FIRST AND THIRD DAYTIME NIGHTTIME SATURDAYS TOO.

I JUMPED AHEAD.

UH, THAT'S WHEN YOU SAID MEETING.

I'M SORRY.

AND THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION OR, OR OUR THOUGHT WAS, LIKE I SAID, WE GOT A LOT OF STUFF AND DO WE WANT TO CONSIDER MAYBE HAVING A, UM, A WORK SESSION ON THAT THIRD TUESDAY? AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE TO DECIDE TONIGHT.

BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK THE DAY MEETINGS WORK OUT WELL AS FAR AS HAVING A WORK SESSION THEN OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF WORK SESSIONS REGARDING BUDGET.

UM, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THAT'S GOING BACK AND FORTH.

I THINK MR. HENDERSON HAS SAID, YOU KNOW, HE USED TO HAVE MEETINGS ALL THE TIME.

I THINK THERE TOWARDS THE LAST, YOU KNOW, WORK SESSIONS WENT ON AS LONG AS THE LIBRARY MEETINGS SOMETIMES.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE DID, IF WE DID HAVE IT, WE COULD ALWAYS SCHEDULE IT PER SE AND THAT WE DIDN'T NEED IT.

WE COULD ALWAYS NOT NEED IT.

AND THE OTHER THING WOULD BE, UM, A WORTHWHILE THING TO LOOK AT.

AND I KNOW MR. HENDERSON HAS ONE AND THAT WOULD BE A TIMER AND SET IT FOR MAYBE TWO HOURS, MAYBE THREE HOURS TOPS.

BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, AFTER A WHILE IT GETS A LITTLE BIT EXHAUSTING.

MM-HMM .

AND WE'RE NOT ALL AS FRESH THEN, BUT JUST THOSE ARE THINGS I'M THROWN OUT NOW THAT WE CAN CONSIDER, UM, WHEN IT COMES UP TO THE REORGANIZATION MEETING IN JANUARY.

MM-HMM .

SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SECOND TUESDAY UP FOR A WORK SESSION OR ADD IT TO THE THIRD MEETING AS A WORK SESSION? WHAT DID YOU SAY FIRST THE SECOND TUESDAY? YEAH.

I WAS THINKING ABOUT IF WE WANNA DO IT THAT WAY.

'CAUSE WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE ONE OR WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE ONE, WHICH IS EASY DURING THE DAY MEETING.

'CAUSE THE DAY MEETINGS ARE RELATIVELY JUST STRAIGHT UP HOUSE CLEANING AND WE'D HAVE, YOU KNOW, TIME THERE AND THEN IF NEEDED, IF WE WANTED TO PUT IT ON THE CALENDAR FOR THE SECOND TUESDAY TIME TO BE ANNOUNCED, IT COULD EITHER BE, AND I WOULD ALMOST LEAN TOWARDS MAYBE AROUND THREE OR FOUR.

MAINLY BECAUSE THAT WAY STAFF WOULD ALREADY BE HERE AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT COMP TIME AND THOSE THINGS.

AND THEN, UH, AGAIN, LIMITED TO LIKE TWO OR THREE HOURS.

AND THEN, UM, IF, IF NEEDED, IF NOT NEEDED, WE WOULDN'T HAVE IT.

BUT I WAS THINKING ABOUT DOING THAT AND WE MAY BE ABLE TO CLEAN UP STUFF TOO, OR WE WILL MM-HMM .

WITH THE, UH, THE DAYTIME WORK SESSIONS.

BUT AGAIN, IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW WE PROGRESS AS FAR AS CLEANING OR CLEARING UP SOME OF THE MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY THINGS THAT WE HAVE OUTSTANDING RIGHT NOW.

BECAUSE IT, IT HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT CHALLENGING I THINK FOR STAFF TO COORDINATE WITH THE FIRST MEETING BEING ROUTINE ITEMS AND THEN THE WORK SESSION AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING AGAIN UNTIL THE THIRD MEETING, WHICH ENDS UP BEING A STACKED AGENDA.

UM, SO I THINK HAVING A SECOND MEETING WITH THE WORK SESSION WOULD BE GOOD SO THAT THEY CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR DEPARTMENT AND I THINK REALLY KEEP YOU INFORMED.

UM, I THINK WE'VE, AND THAT'S THE WAY WE DID IT UNTIL THIS YEAR.

YEAH.

UM, YOU HAD THREE MEETINGS A MONTH LAST YEAR, ALL YEAR.

THE FIRST MEETING WE MOVED, THE FIRST MEETING, IT USED TO BE NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND THEN WORK SESSION AFTERWARDS WE MOVED THAT TO SEVEN ON THE, UM, THAT WAS A GENERAL BUSINESS MEETING.

THE SECOND TUESDAY WAS WORK SESSION THAT STARTED AT SEVEN.

AND THE THIRD MEETING WAS, UM, GENERAL WORK SESSION WITH PUBLIC HEARINGS.

AND IF WE HAD A HUGE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC HEARINGS, WE ADDED A FOURTH TUESDAY TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE.

BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD TO DO THAT, UM, FOR QUITE A WHILE.

BUT THAT WORKED OUT AS FAR AS AN EARLIER TIME.

I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT.

'CAUSE WHEN WE START BOUNCING AROUND, WE'RE ALREADY HAVING COMPLAINTS THAT WE DON'T COMMUNICATE AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING WHEN, SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, WE HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT OR WE'RE GONNA JUST BE ADDING TO THE CRITICISM THAT'S ALREADY BEING PUMPED OUT.

SO IS THAT'S GONNA SAVE YOU WITH THE FACEBOOK PAGE, YOU WON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM ANYMORE.

AND I HAVE FAITH HE CAN.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO, SO WE WANNA DO FIGURE OUT THE FIRST AND THIRD MEETING AS IS AND THEN POTENTIALLY AS NEEDED AT A WORK SESSION ON THE SECOND TUESDAY.

WELL IS IT MIGHT GO POTENTIALLY AS NEEDED OR IS IT GONNA BE, THAT'S THE QUESTION.

WE MIGHT WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE CALENDAR FOR FUTURE MEETINGS AND THEN WE CAN ALWAYS CANCEL IT.

MM-HMM .

AND THEN WE COULD ALWAYS CANCEL POSSIBLE.

OF COURSE.

PEOPLE PROBABLY WOULDN'T SEE THAT EITHER.

BUT NO, I THINK THAT'D BE THE BEST WAY.

MAYBE JUST TO DO IT, PUT IT ON CALENDAR, THEN CANCEL IF WE NEED IT.

RIGHT.

WITH THE, WITH THE SECOND MEETING.

AND THIS IS, I NEVER THOUGHT I'D SAY ZACH'S, RIGHT? HAVING THE DAY MEETING IS A CHALLENGE FOR STAFF IN THAT IT IS TAKING HALF OF A DAY AWAY FROM US.

UM, SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO IT A LITTLE LATER IN THE DAY, IT WOULD BE IDEAL.

SO IF FOUR O'CLOCK WORKS FOR YOU, ALL

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4:00 PM IS IS BETTER FOR ME ACTUALLY TOO THAN EARLIER IN THE DAY.

ME MM-HMM .

SO YEAH.

LATER THE BETTER FOR ME ALL DAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND I, I THINK THAT'S, UM, THAT'S FAIR.

THEY'RE EITHER GONNA, YOU KNOW, NOT GET INTO SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GONNA BE PULLED UP TO BE THE DISCUSSION TOPIC.

THEY'RE GONNA MISS THEIR LUNCH AS PART OF THAT TOO.

SO FOUR O'CLOCK THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH SEAMED UP ON WHAT THEY NEED TO DO FOR THE DAY AND LUNCH IS OVER.

SO, UH, NEXT QUESTION.

DO WE START THAT NEXT YEAR VERSUS NEXT MONTH? ARE WE RELATED ENOUGH TO DO IT? I KNOW WHEN WE COME INTO BUDGET SEASON HERE PRETTY SOON ALL THAT'S GONNA GET THROWN OUT THE WINDOW.

'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE BUSY ANYWAY.

UH, WE WON'T START THE BUDGET MEETINGS UNTIL THE START OF THE NEW YEAR.

SO, UM, COUNTY STAFF WILL START MEETING IN DECEMBER TO GO THROUGH IT, BUT WE WON'T BE BRINGING IT TO THE BOARD UNTIL, AND WE WANNA KEEP IT TO THE TUESDAYS IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

SO THAT SECOND WORK SESSION WILL BE A FANTASTIC TIME TO REALLY SPEND TIME ON BUDGET.

UM, AND WELL THEN PROBABLY, DEFINITELY ADD IT TO THE 2020 SEVENTH MM-HMM .

UM, AND LET'S JUST WING IT FOR OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, AND DECEMBER ON AS NEEDED.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

PERFECT.

OKAY.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD INTO THAT? NOT, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT KIND

[C.4. Discussion - Process for Quarterly Updates for County Departments]

OF TIES INTO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

OKAY.

PROCESS FOR THE QUAL QUARTERLY UPDATES FOR THE DEPARTMENTS.

YEAH.

SO IN, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU MENTIONED WANTING TO GET UPDATES FROM THE DEPARTMENTS, IS IT SOMETHING THAT ON A QUARTERLY BASIS YOU WOULD LIKE A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT HERE OR EVERY MONTH YOU'D LIKE TO SEE A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT TO GIVE AN UPDATE? HOW MANY DEPARTMENTS IS IT? WE HAVE 17 DEPARTMENTS.

NOT ALL OF THEM NEED TO REPORT.

UM, BUT I THINK PROBABLY ABOUT NINE DEPARTMENTS WOULD WANNA BE GIVING YOU AN UPDATE AT LEAST THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

I THINK THEY COULD BE STAGGERED.

OKAY.

AND THE MAIN THING I CAME, I BROUGHT UP IS BECAUSE I'D ATTENDED THE PARKS AND REC MEETING AND I COULDN'T DO 'EM JUSTICE.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT THINGS GOING ON OUT THERE AND IT'S ALSO ANOTHER WAY TO INFORM NEW COMMUNITY OF WHAT, WHAT MAY BE AVAILABLE AS FAR AS, I DON'T KNOW, MAHJONG MM-HMM .

TOURNAMENTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT DOWN AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

UM, AND THEY, THEY COULD TELL US ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE, ARE GOING ON IN, UM, AND THAT, THAT WAS JUST ONE.

'CAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, THEY COME PERIODICALLY LIKE DSS MM-HMM .

EXCUSE ME, UM, BUILDING OR WHATEVER.

BUT LIKE YOU SAID, IF, UH, THAT'LL KIND OF HELP OUT TOO IF WE HAVE THAT WORK SESSION BETWEEN MEETINGS IF IT'S AN ONGOING ISSUE.

RIGHT.

UM, AND AGAIN, WITH THE, UH, SOME OF 'EM, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, UH, THE EDA DIRECTOR, YOU KNOW, WHEN THINGS COME UP HE'S HERE AND HE COULD KIND OF ROLL THAT INTO MM-HMM .

THE WHOLE THING.

BUT, UH, I JUST, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR, FOR US TO KNOW, ALTHOUGH WE GET THE REPORTS AND SUCH.

RIGHT.

AND, UM, AND FOR THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW TOO.

AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UH, AND YOU SAID THERE'S 17, I DON'T KNOW.

AND WE'VE HAD THEM COME UP TOO, PARTICULARLY 'CAUSE OF THE AUDIT.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE TREASURER AND THE MM-HMM .

COMMISSIONER AND, AND AGAIN, THE SPECIFIC ITEMS, I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS WERE AS FAR AS TAX RELIEF FOR THE ELDERLY MM-HMM .

UM, AND HOW THEY'RE PROGRESSING WITH THAT.

BUT IT JUST, LIKE I SAY, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHERE I THOUGHT THE DAY MEETINGS WOULD BE THE, THE IDEAL, UH, FORUM FOR, FOR THAT, THAT TYPE OF THING.

PERFECT.

I DO APPRECIATE WHEN WE, UH, SOMETIMES IN THE PACKET GET UPDATES FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, LIKE BUILDING PERMITS THAT WERE PROCESSED MM-HMM .

OR WHATEVER THE EMS CALLS WERE OR WHATEVER THE METRIC IS FOR THOSE DEPARTMENTS.

IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT AND TO SEE THE, UM, THE TIME SERIES AND, AND THE, THE TREND AND, AND THEN KNOW WHAT ARE THE BIG PROJECT, UH, UH, ISSUES THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON AS WELL AS WHAT ASKS MIGHT BE COMING UP.

UM, AND ANY OTHER KEY NEWS.

MM-HMM .

I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE SUPER LONG.

IT COULD BE FIVE OR 10 MINUTES FOR A DEPARTMENT, UH, MAYBE PUT UP A SLIDE OR TWO.

I DON'T WANT TO CREATE A LOT OF WORK FOR THEM.

NO.

UM, BUT IT, IT'S GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE TO, TO HEAR THAT TOO.

I THINK THE OTHER THING TOO IS WITH THEM COMING BEFORE IS WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THEM QUESTIONS.

YEAH.

WHEREAS WE GET ASK THEM INDIVIDUALLY, BUT THEN THEY MAY HAVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION FIVE TIMES INDIVIDUALLY YEP.

AND GO BACK AND FORTH.

SO, YOU KNOW, I HAD GOOD THOUGHTS.

PERFECT.

WE'LL START DOING THAT.

THANK YOU.

ONE LAST THING, UM, THAT I TALKED WITH MS. MEADOWS YESTERDAY WAS THE EVER INCREASING COST OF FUEL AND HOW WE NEED

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TO GET A HANDLE ON CONSERVING AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

I ASKED HER, YOU KNOW, IF TWO PEOPLE CAN CONSOLIDATE INSTEAD OF DRIVING TWO VEHICLES GO TOGETHER TO DO A JOB, WHATEVER THEY CAN COME UP WITH.

BUT, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN INSIGHT, UM, FOR THE COST OF FUEL AND I'VE, I CAN'T BELIEVE WE BUDGETED ENOUGH TO, TO KEEP UP WITH THE RISING COST.

SO WHEREVER THE DEPARTMENTS CAN CONSERVE, UM, I, I KNOW I EVERYONE APPRECIATE IT.

'CAUSE AT THIS POINT I, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GONNA MATCH JUST THE COST OF HEATING FUEL? AND I, I HAVEN'T EVEN HEARD THE COST OF WHAT THE HEATING FUEL IS.

JUST WHAT I SEE ON THE, UM, FOR GAS AND AND DIESEL.

MM-HMM .

HOPEFULLY IT'LL GO DOWN.

HOPEFULLY SOMEONE SAID THEY EXPECT IT TO GO OVER $10.

SO I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE.

AND I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH FIRE AND RESCUE YESTERDAY BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

UM, SO THEY PAY FOR THEIR FUEL OUT OF COST RECOVERY, UM, BECAUSE THAT IS AN ITEM THAT IT'S DRIVEN.

SO, UM, I WAS GLAD TO HEAR THAT THE REIMBURSEMENT RATE IS QUITE HIGH, SO WE SHOULD BE FINE, UM, ON THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT.

UM, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS ARE AWARE OF AND I THINK EVERYBODY COMMUNITY WIDE IS CONCERNED ABOUT HOW HIGH FUEL IS GONNA GO.

YEAH.

I, UM, WHEN I THINK OF SOME OF THE PROJECTS LIKE THE PARKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, AT THE RATE THE GAS IS GOING UP, PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA BE ABLE AFFORD TO DRIVE OUT AND DO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HOPE THAT THEY'RE GONNA COME OUT HERE FOR LIKE DURING COVID WE ARE CLOSE, WHICH, WHICH HELPS WHERE YOU CAN'T MAYBE AFFORD TO GO TO THE BEACH.

UM, IN THE CAROLINAS YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET OUT HERE AND GO CAMPING AND TRAVET THE RIVER INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE BEACH.

BUT, UM, THE FUEL REALLY, I KNOW IT DOESN'T JUST CONCERN ME, IT CONCERNS EVERYBODY.

SO JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THAT IT IS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WE ARE TALKING TO OUR PEOPLE ABOUT AND TRYING TO BE CONSERVATIVE AND DOING THE BEST WE CAN WITH THOSE TAX DOLLARS.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? ONLY THING, ONLY THING I REALLY ON HERE, BUT I JUST NOTICED WHEN I CAME DOWN HERE THAT JUST FOR THE CITIZENS, THERE'S A, UM, HAZARDOUS WASTE COLLECTION ON SATURDAY.

MM-HMM .

RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IN FRONT, OR ACTUALLY HERE.

OH, IT'S HERE? MM-HMM .

OKAY.

OUR PARKING LOT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO IT'S HERE.

MM-HMM .

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT WOULD'VE BEEN AT THE WRONG PLACE.

.

WHAT, WHAT ARE THE HOURS FOR THAT ON SATURDAY? FROM 6:00 AM UNTIL, IS IT 12 OR TWO? I THINK IT'S TWO.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I HAVE A LOT OF OLD PAINT .

YES.

YEAH.

PAINT BATTERIES FOR HOUSEHOLD.

YEAH.

HAZARDOUS WASTE.

YEAH.

ON THOSE LINES, DO YOU KNOW, UM, OR HAVE WE EVER HAD UH, LIKE ELECTRONICS RECYCLING FOR LIKE OLD COMPUTERS, TVS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK YOU TAKE THOSE UP TO THE TRANSFER STATION.

SO, AND THEY HAD A SPECIAL CART TO PUT 'EM, A TRAILER CLOSED IN TO? I THINK SO.

UM, AND JUST ON THOSE LINES, UM, TO THROW A PITCH OUT, LITERALLY, UM, SUNDAY, THE WARREN COALITION IS HAVING THEIR FAMILY DAY OUT AT 15TH STREET SCHOOL.

IT'S ALL FREE.

LOTS OF DIFFERENT VENDORS AND ACTIVITIES GOING ON.

UM, THE ONE THING THAT I'M INVOLVED WITH IS CALLED THE PITCH BURST, WHERE PEOPLE DONATE MONEY AHEAD OF TIME TO, IT'S A FUNDRAISER AND I SIT IN A CHAIR AND THEY DROP.

IF YOU CAN HIT THE THING WITH THE BALL TO RELEASE THE ARM AND DROP A BIG OLD BALLOON ON ME FULL OF WATER, UM, I HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING.

I'M TIRED OF 90 DEGREE DAYS AND DARNED IF IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE 60 DEGREES AND I'M PROBABLY GONNA FREEZE, BUT IT'S FOR A GOOD CALL.

SO IF YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ON SUNDAY, COME OUT TO 15TH STREET SCHOOL AND DO YOUR BEST TO FREEZE ME WITH A BALLOON WATER BALLOON.

SO, UM, AND DID YOU WANNA THROW A PITCH OUT FOR THE NEXT, THE NEXT WEEKEND? THERE'S SO MUCH STUFF GOING ON.

SO THE THIRD, SATURDAY THE THIRD, WE HAVE LIBERTY DAY AT ROCKLAND PARK AND THAT WEEKEND, UM, VDOT IS ALSO ACTUALLY DOING SIGNIFICANT WORK ROAD WORK FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY.

SO THEY'RE EXPECTING SIGNIFICANT

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DELAYS ON SIX, SIX AND 81, UM, THROUGHOUT THE DAY, ALL DAY SATURDAY.

SO WE RECOMMEND PEOPLE TO TAKE 11 ALTERNATE ROUTES, OTHERWISE YOU'LL PROBABLY BE SITTING IN SOME TRAFFIC.

SO FEEL FREE TO COME TO LIBERTY DAY AND ENJOY THAT EXPERIENCE.

ROCK, GO TO ROCKLAND PARK INSTEAD OF 66 AND 81.

.

.

YEP.

ALRIGHT.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED.

ALL IN FAVOR? I A SAFE TRIP HOME.