Sep 08, 2020 Board of Supervisors Work Session

CAN WE DO THE BROADBAND, HAVING CITIZENS INVOLVED IN THAT, ESPECIALLY THAT ONE GENTLEMAN WAS HERE, I THINK FROM HIS COLORS DISTRICT, HE SEEMED TO BE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND I THINK, HMM.

CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY I'M GETTING ALL THESE PAPERS, BECAUSE THIS WAS AN UPDATE ON THE RAILROAD TASK FORCE.

BUT ANYWAY, NOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BROADBAND AND I SAID, I THINK, I THINK THE BROADBAND AGREEMENT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD.

AND I LIKE THE TAX THAT YOU'RE TAKING ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A CITIZEN FROM EACH DISTRICT ON THERE.

AND THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE HERE ONE DAY, I THINK FROM YOUR DISTRICT, HE SEEMED VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE.

AND I IMAGINE YOU'RE GOING TO PUT HIM ON THERE AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND PEOPLE TOO.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD SINCE WORLD IS AN ISSUE IN ALL DISTRICTS, SOME MORE THAN OTHERS, UH, PROBABLY ESPECIALLY OUT YOUR WAY.

UM, AS FAR AS HAVING ACCESS TO THAT INDEPENDENT, I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT WITH THE, UH, SCHOOLS, UM, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.

SO, LIKE I SAID, THAT GENTLEMAN, YOU HAD, I HOPE YOU WANT TO PUT HIM ON THERE BECAUSE HE SEEMED REALLY KNOWLEDGEABLE SINCE THIS IS SOMETHING I'M NEW WITH KEN.

HOW, HOW ARE CITIZEN APPOINTEES USUALLY DONE? DO WE OPEN IT UP? AND PEOPLE APPLY THAT WAS IN THEM, WE AS A GROUP.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY THEN TO DO IT.

AND I HOPE HE DOES.

AND SINCE IT'S IN SPECIAL INTEREST OF ANY ONE PERSON, EXCUSE ME, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT LIKE I SAY, IN THE, UM, SINCE WE HAVE IT SET IN THERE AND WE HAVE SOME COMMITTEES WHERE WE HAVE ONE MEMBER FROM EACH DISTRICT PLANNING COMMISSION, I THINK MAY WE TRY THE BZA WE TRIED THE BOARD OF SONY APPEAL.

WELL, IT'S THE SAME THING, BUT, UH, UM, THE BUILDER'S COMMITTEE, WE TRY TO GET SOMEBODY FROM EACH, UH, DISTRICT AT ALL POSSIBLE.

BUT YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA TO GO AHEAD AND PUT IT OUT.

AND I GUESS WE CAN PUT IT ONLINE AND ADVERTISE OR WHATEVER.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SET A KIND OF A DEADLINE.

DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN YOU WANT TO GET THIS COMMITTEE UP AND RUNNING? I THINK THE SOONER, THE BETTER, AS FAR AS BETWEEN THE VANITY GRANTS AND, AND WHATEVER ELSE TO GET IN ON IT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

SO BEFORE IT'S ALL USED UP, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO BE PREPARED MAYBE OUR FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER? CAUSE I KNOW WE'VE GOT A MEETING NEXT WEEK AND I DON'T KNOW WE'VE GOT ANOTHER WORK SESSION BEFORE THEN, BUT THEY WOULD GET EVERYBODY MAYBE THREE WEEKS TO APPLY.

AND OF COURSE I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST, AND YOU'RE NOT ONLY PUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS ONLINE IN THE PAPER, BUT THEN ALSO GO OUT AND TRY TO FIND PEOPLE TOO, THAT YOU MAY THINK IS GOOD, BUT WE COULD START MAYBE, MAYBE BE READY TO ADOPT WHATEVER THAT DATE IS IN OCTOBER.

THAT FIRST MEETING IS THAT, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE FOR YOU, SIR, IS IF THESE BYLAWS ARE ACCEPTABLE, THAT THEY BE ON YOUR AGENDA FOR ADOPTION NEXT WEEK, AND SIMULTANEOUSLY WE WILL PUT OUT THE NOTICE OF THE POSITIONS AVAILABLE SO THAT YOU CAN THEN HAVE THOSE INTERESTED PARTIES HAVE, WILL HAVE APPLIED BY THE 1ST OF OCTOBER.

SO THAT AT THE OCTOBER MEETING, THEN YOU CAN LOOK AT APPOINTING PEOPLE TO THE COMMITTEE.

MY DAD GAVE US ENOUGH TIME TO HAVE A, UH, IF WE HAVE IT, WE'RE ONLY GIVING HIM TWO WEEKS TO APPLY AND GET IN YOUR DAD SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK.

YEAH, WELL WE COULD START IF, IF BY CONSENSUS, THIS IS AGREEABLE, WE WILL START ADVERTISE SOLICITING APPLICATIONS THIS WEEK.

OKAY, GOOD.

SO THAT WE GET THAT EXTRA WEEK OF TIME IN THERE.

AND, UM, ACTUALLY WE REDUCED OUR APPROVED, BUT THEN NEXT WEEK YOU WOULD APPROVE THIS.

AND ONE CHANGE OF THE BYLAWS AS WE HAVE HERE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT, UH, MR. TIM GRANT BEING AN ADDITIONAL ADVISOR TO THE COMMITTEE, HE IS THE DIRECTOR OF IT FOR THE COUNTY SCHOOLS, BUT HE'D JUST BE IN AN ADVISORY MEMBER SO THAT HE CAN ASSIST YOU

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QUESTION THAT I HAD.

UM, AND MAYBE I OVERLOOKED IT WHEN READING, THIS IS, HOW OFTEN ARE THEY GOING TO MEET A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS? HOW OFTEN DO THEY PLAN TO MEET? AND WHEN DO THEY REPORT BACK TO US? THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BOTH WILL BE UNDER THE COMMITTEE AND, UH, THE BOARD LIAISON, UH, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT A MEMBER OF THE BOARD BE APPOINTED TO THE COMMITTEE AND THAT PERSON WILL BECOME THE CHAIR AND THEN CAN DRIVE THE COORDINATION BETWEEN THE BOARD AND THE COMMITTEE AND MAKE THINGS THAT THERE ARE TIMELY PRESENTATIONS TO THE BOARD AND SO FORTH.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

SO WE WOULD MAKE THAT ADDITIONAL.

SO I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

AND THEN I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO THE COMMITTEE TO DECIDE HOW OFTEN THEY WANT TO MEET AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT I WOULD POSSIBLY PARDON ME FIRST MEETING.

I'M SORRY.

NO, BUT YEAH, THE FIRST MEETING THEY DECIDE HOW OFTEN THEY WANT TO MEET.

UM, AND I WOULD ALMOST SUGGEST MAYBE SINCE WE ONLY HAVE ONE MEETING IN DECEMBER, MAYBE THEY AT LEAST GIVE US A PRELIMINARY REPORT ON HOW THINGS ARE PROCEEDING, BUT YOU KNOW, IF A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD IS ON THERE AND I WOULD, UH, SUGGEST MS. COLORS AT THIS POINT, CAUSE SHE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO DO.

BUT, UH, BUT THEN AGAIN, IN THAT MEETING IN DECEMBER, WHICH IS PROBABLY GONNA BE LIKE THE THIRD, TUESDAY DAY MEETING, THAT WAY WE CAN GET A REPORT AS FAR AS THE PROGRESS AND MAYBE IT'S JUST AN ORGANIZATIONAL REPORT AND THEN THAT WAY WE HAVE, AND THEN AFTER THAT MAYBE QUARTERLY UPDATES STAFF WILL BE HERE EVERY TUESDAY IN DECEMBER, IF THE BOARD WANTS TO COME.

I DIDN'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS AT ALL.

UM, MRS. COLLINS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO BE CHAIR OR NOT.

I KNOW THAT YOU ORIGINALLY THROW YOUR HAT IN THE RING.

I BELIEVE I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TIMEFRAME IS AND IF YOU'VE GOT THE ABILITY TO DO THAT'S FINE.

I DON'T MIND.

AND I'M BE GLAD TO DO IT.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO HELP YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

YES MA'AM.

WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO POTENTIALLY HAVE MAYBE ONE OF THE DELEGATES FROM OUR AREA INVITED TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE THESE GUYS ARE IN TUNE WITH WHAT IS GOING ON IN RICHMOND AND WITH RESPECT TO BROADBAND.

AND SO PERHAPS MIKE WEBER OR, UH, TODD GILBERT OR, UM, IF MR. WILEY IS ELECTED, I'M SURE HE'D BE INTERESTED AS WELL.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THE MORE PEOPLE IN POSITIONS TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE WITH MOVING THIS ALONG WITH THE BETTER, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SUGGEST ON THAT WOULD BE NOT NECESSARILY, AND MAYBE YOU SAID ADVISORY, BUT NOT NECESSARILY MAKE THEM A MEMBER OF THAT COMMITTEE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUSY AS ALL GET OUT ANYWAY, BUT THEY WOULD BE A GOOD LIAISON TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND TO KEEP YOU POSTED ON THAT AND THEY COULD COME IN PERIODICALLY TO SAY, HERE'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING, HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.

CAUSE I THINK THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE SOME MONEY AVAILABLE FOR BROADBAND IN RURAL AREAS.

AND HOW DO WE GO ABOUT GETTING THAT AND EVERYTHING.

UM, AND I'VE ALREADY GOT SOME OF THE BROADBAND INFORMATION ALREADY FROM PAST MEETINGS THAT WERE MR. DALEY.

AND I WENT TO, UM, BE ABLE TO GET US UP TO SPEED RELATIVELY QUICKLY.

NOW I JUST GOT TO GET PEOPLE INVOLVED WELL, AND, AND IF, IF THE DELEGATES WEREN'T IDEAL AND VACO HAS THEIR OWN PERSON, WHO'S ALSO WORKING SPECIFICALLY ON THE BROADBAND ISSUE.

SO PERHAPS THAT WOULD BE A BETTER CHOICE WORK WITH DEAN OR DO, DO YOU KNOW THAT PERSON? UM, CHERYL, WE CAN FIND OUT FROM VACO JEREMY, I BELIEVE JEREMY.

A LOT OF RESOURCES.

THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS OUT THERE THAT ARE WORKING ON THIS.

NOW THAT THEY CAN ZOOM, ANYBODY CAN JOIN YOUR COMMITTEE.

YEP.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS PROGRAM? LOTS OF QUESTIONS, BUT NOTHING THAT I WILL GO INTO TONIGHT.

SO THAT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA NEXT WEEK WITH THOSE COUPLE OF REVISIONS.

AND FAIRGROUNDS ROAD AND ROCKLIN ROAD.

THANK YOU ACTUALLY, AS THE BYLAWS FOR THE WARRANT COUNTER RAILROAD TASKFORCE, THE ONLY THINK I THOUGHT ABOUT ON THAT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FOR THE BROADBAND AND, AND I THINK MS. OATS HAS ALREADY HAD, HAD HAD SOME CONVERSATION WITH THE INLAND PORT AND I THINK THE MAIN, UH, AREA WHERE WE'RE HAVING ISSUES OR I THINK IT'S THE BOUNDARY LINE, THE RAILROAD BETWEEN, WELL, AT THE END OF THE PORT

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AND I THINK THAT'S THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN SHANANDOAH AND NORTH RIVER.

AND MY ONLY THOUGHT WAS MAYBE YOU AND MR. MABE COULD BE PART OF THAT GROUP.

AND I DON'T KNOW, IN THIS CASE, OF COURSE, THE OTHER AREAS YOU HAD TO IS A LONG HAPPY CREEK ROAD, CHANDRA SHORES ROAD IN A MARY MARY SHADY LANE.

SO THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM TOO.

AND I DON'T THINK HAS BEEN QUITE AS MUCH OF AN ISSUE OUT THERE.

BUT THE ONLY THING THAT I'M AWARE OF IS THAT THE RAILROADS WERE BASICALLY GOING TO DO WHAT THE RAILROADS WANT TO DO WHEN THEY WERE DOING THE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS ON MARY SHADYS LANE.

I THINK THE ONLY NOTICE THEY GAVE WAS THERE'S A SIGN SAYING THIS IS GOING TO BE CLOSED BETWEEN FRIDAY AND WHATEVER.

I DON'T THINK THEY EVER NOTIFIED THE COUNTY V DOT OR EMS PEOPLE OR WHATEVER.

AND I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ONE OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND, YOU KNOW, TRIED TO SEE WHAT THEY COULD DO TO LEAVE IT.

BUT I KNOW SOME YEARS BACK WHERE I LIVE HAD HEARD RUMORS THAT, UH, IT WAS BLOCKING MY DRIVEWAY AND I HAPPEN TO BE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY.

SO I WROTE DOWN TO THE ALPHA MOUNTAIN STORE AND SURE ENOUGH, THEY WERE STOPPED RIGHT THERE.

AND I WAITED A FEW MINUTES AND HERE COMES THE ENGINEER OUT WITH A SANDWICH BAG AND A STYROFOAM CUP.

AND I REPORTED IT TO MR. STANLEY.

HE TALKED TO THE RAILROAD AND, UH, IT WAS ALL WE HAD A MECHANICAL PROBLEM, SO, OKAY.

SO THERE'S A COUPLE WEEKS LATER IT'S EASTER.

I WAS OVER IN WINCHESTER, VISITING RELATIVES AND CAME BACK.

SAME THING HAPPENED.

SO THAT WAS THE TIME.

AND I'M NOT TO ADAPT TO THAT NOW, BUT I TOOK OUT MY HANDY DANDY, UH, CELL PHONE CAMERA TOOK PICTURES OF IT AND ACTUALLY SHOWED THE GUY.

SO THAT KIND OF ALLEVIATED THAT, BUT I'M JUST THINKING THAT IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THE CITIZENS ON THERE, BUT IT'S MORE IMPORTANT.

I THINK, TO TALK TO THE LYMPH PORT RIGHT NOW, I THINK IT WAS LIKE A $5 MILLION DEFICIT BECAUSE THEY RAN INTO SOME ISSUES WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY OUT THERE.

BUT WE EVEN, WHEN WE GOT THAT $5 MILLION TOMORROW, YOU'RE STILL PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT FIVE YEARS BEFORE IT GETS BUILT.

SO TO ME, THE MOST IMPORTANT AND THE HISTORY LESSON, THE RAILROADS CAME ABOUT LIKE AN 1850, HE'S TRYING TO MOVE COMMERCE AND CONGRESS JUST GAVE HIM CARTE BLANCHE.

THEY DO ANYTHING, EVERYTHING THEY WANT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO TELL ANYBODY.

SO TO ME, THE BETTER, BETTER TACK MIGHT BE FOR YOU.

AND MR. MAY ALONE, MAYBE A MEMBER OF STAFF TO START REACHING OUT TO BEN KLEIN, SENATORS, WARNER, AND KAINE.

AND THEY'RE AGAIN, MAYBE THEY CAN FIND THAT MONEY, WHICH COULD AT LEAST EXPEDITE IT.

AND MAYBE, MAYBE THEY COULD PUT SOME LEVERAGE ON THE RAILROADS TO TRY TO WORK THINGS OUT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

CAUSE I JUST DON'T SEE WHERE THE CITIZENS ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF INPUT.

I MEAN, OTHER THAN WELL, THEY HAVE INPUT AND YOU CAN STILL GATHER THAT DOCUMENT THE TIMES AND DATES WHEN THEY DO THAT.

BUT, AND THERE MAY BE SOME, UH, THE OTHER EFFORT WOULD BE TO, WITH, UH, MAYBE DELICATE WEAVER, WEBER AND, UM, GILBERT AND A SENATOR AND CHAIN AND ALL THOSE.

CAUSE THEY MAY HAVE SOME, SOME FLEXIBILITY OR, UM, INPUT WITH THE INLAND PORT CAUSE RIGHT THERE, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE MAIN THING.

SO I JUST, THIS TO ME IS DIFFERENT FROM BROADBAND WHERE THE CITIZENS CAN COME INTO DISCUSSIONS AND ALL, BUT THIS YEAR, THIS IS GOING TO BE HAPPY TO SAY IT HAD TO BE TAKEN ON A HIGHER LEVEL TO GET THINGS ACCOMPLISHED.

AND YOU KNOW, I WISH YOU GOOD LUCK.

WELL, I WILL SAY THAT I'VE MET WITH, UM, NORFOLK SOUTHERN AND THEY'VE BEEN MOST COOPERATIVE.

UH, WE MET WITH THE INLAND PORT, UM, MR. DALEY AND I DID, AND THAT WAS VERY POSITIVE.

UM, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT AT THE END OF THIS PROJECT THERE MAYBE ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS, UM, BUT THAT SHOULD BE EASILY, OR I DON'T WANT TO SAY EASILY CAUSE A MILLION DOLLARS IS NOT ANYTHING EASY, BUT THEY DO THINK THAT IN TERMS OF GRANTS, THAT THERE'S POSSIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO FUND THE GAP.

THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT, THAT I SEE RIGHT NOW WITH THE RAILROAD IS THAT WE HAVE, UH, BLOCKAGES ON A REGULAR BASIS, UM, AT ROCKLAND AT, UH, ASHBY STATION AND AT FAIRGROUND.

AND I JUST WANT TO REPORT BECAUSE THIS IS A REALLY GOOD REPORT.

UM, THERE WAS A BLOCKAGE LAST WEEK AND CONSTITUENTS AND NOW HAVE MY CELL PHONE NUMBER AND THEY'RE TEXTING ME AND THEY SAID, THERE'S A BLOCKAGE.

IT'S BEEN BLOCKED FOR AN HOUR.

SO I IMMEDIATELY CALLED OUR REPRESENTATIVE AT NORFOLK SOUTHERN.

HE WAS BACK TO ME IN 15 MINUTES WITH A REPORT FOR THE REASON.

AND IT WAS UNBLOCKED AFTER THAT.

SO I REPORTED BACK TO THE CONSTITUENTS AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE OKAY IF THERE'S A REASON AND SOMEBODY TELLS THEM WHAT'S GOING ON, THE FRUSTRATION IS THAT YOU'RE SITTING THERE FOR AN HOUR AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA AND NO ONE TO CALL AND NO WAY TO FIND OUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

THAT'S, WHAT'S FRUSTRATING.

SO I REPORTED BACK TO THE CONSTITUENTS AND I WOULD LIKE TO REPORT THAT THE BLOCKAGES HAVE BEEN FEWER

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AND FEWER SINCE YES, CONSIDERABLY LESS SINCE WE INITIALLY SPOKE TO THEM.

SO THINGS ARE ON THE RIGHT PATH.

WE JUST NEED TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.

AND THE ONE PERSON WHO'S NOT ON THIS LIST ON THESE BYLAWS IS SHERIFF BUTLER AND HE NEEDS TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE, UM, BECAUSE HE IS THE, THE PERSON WHO GETS THE CALLS MOST FREQUENTLY AT HIS OFFICE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT SHERIFF BUTLER IS A PART OF THIS COMMITTEE.

I ALSO BEEN IN CONTACT JUST BY THE WAY, UM, WITH DELEGATE WEBBER AND HE HAS BEEN HELPING ME WITH CONNECTIONS WITH NORFOLK SOUTHERN AND UM, WITH OTHER PEOPLE WITHIN RICHMOND, HE'S BEEN VERY VALUABLE.

SO I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT AS WELL.

SO YOU STILL WANT CITIZENS ON THERE.

YOU JUST WANT TO KIND OF MAKE IT YOU AND WALT AND SHERIFF BUTLER.

AND CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE Y'ALL ARE MAKING SOME HEADWAY AND I'M PLEASED AND IMPRESSED BY THAT.

BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE BETTER JUST FOR YOU GUYS TO KIND OF DO THIS ALONG WITH INPUT FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

WOULD IT BE OF ANY VALUE TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CITIZENS AS AN ALERT THAT THE RAILROAD'S BLOCKED, THEN YOU'RE GETTING EMAILS.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

SO RIGHT NOW THE BIGGEST ISSUE, SO IT'S GOING TO BE FIVE YEARS BEFORE THAT FLYOVERS DONE.

THAT'S THAT'S A GIVEN.

SO THE BIGGEST ISSUE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AT THIS POINT IN TIME IS HOW DO WE NOTIFY CITIZENS? WHO WA WHO, WHEN THERE WAS A BLOCKAGE AND WE'RE TALKED TO, I'VE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ELECTRONIC SIGNAGE, UH, SHARE BUTLER.

AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT WOULD ONLY HELP THE PEOPLE ON FIVE 22 WHO WERE GOING TO MAKE A TURN ONTO ONE OF THESE ROADS, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE OR PLAYING GOLF, THERE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING THAT THAT RAILROAD CROSSING IS BLOCKED UNTIL THEY GET THERE.

SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY AN APP, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY ELSE HAS APPS, YOU GET ALERTS FROM RICHMOND.

IF THERE'S A CHILD MISSING, YOU GET AN ORDER FOR THE, YOU KNOW, SO COULD THERE NOT BE SOME APP THAT PEOPLE COULD SIGN UP FOR THAT COULD LET THEM KNOW.

BUT THOSE, I MEAN, THAT'S A BIG IDEA JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THAT'S A REAL BIG IDEA.

AND WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THE DETAILS OF EVEN IF THAT'S POSSIBLE YET, BUT THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF IDEAS THAT ARE FLOATING AROUND.

SO CITIZENS INVOLVEMENT COULD ASSIST WITH THE SOLUTIONS.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY, MY RE MY ONLY, OKAY, SO YOU WANT TO PUT THIS ON THE SECOND MEETING OR NEXT WEEK, AS FAR AS THE FINAL OUTCOME OF THIS HE'S ADJUSTMENTS AND THEN PUT IT OFF THE NEXT MEETING.

AREA'S OPEN AND HAD TO CUT THROUGH AS FAR AS CUT THROUGH AN EMERGENCY ACCESS, CUT THROUGH THE OTHER FARM THERE'S WAYS.

MRS. OATES IS A BREED.

MR. DALEY ASKED ME IF THAT WOULD BE A THOUGHT WOULD BE IF I WOULD CONSIDER THAT.

AND I SAID, YES, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO BE ON THAT WITH GLAD YOU BE A PART OF IT, MR. BUTLER.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

QUESTION ABOUT WHY CAN'T WE PUT A TEMPORARY CAMERA THAT WILL GO IN A PDF.

SO MY DISPATCHERS DON'T HAVE 24 HOUR COVERAGE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND WE CAN GET IT OUT FASTER TO THE PUBLIC.

I SAW A MEANS OF SIGNS BY PHOTOGRAPH A LOT FASTER THAN WAITING FOR A PRESIDENT TO COME IN AND A DEPUTY TO GO RESPOND TO IT.

DUPONT IN 15, 20, 30 MINUTES, IT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID WHERE IF OUR DISPATCHERS SEE IT FOR THE CAMERA, WHICH CAMERA WE NEED FOR THE CELL PHONE, THREE, $400 FOR A CAMEL, WE PUT OFF CALL SOLUTIONS.

WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE AND LOOKING INTO IT.

ABOUT NINE MONTHS AGO, I STARTED LOOKING INTO THAT FOR THE NICE MOVABLE ONES THAT ARE SELF GENERATED.

OBVIOUSLY THE BEAT ON IS WE'RE LOOKING AT SPENDING ABOUT 40, $50,000.

YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

I'M TRYING TO FIND A LESS EXPENSIVE STOP GATE FOR, FOR NOW.

LIKE WE MOVED FOR AUXILIARY EMERGENCY ROUTES LIKE THE, AND FARM.

THE LAST MR. CARTER WAS TALKING ABOUT, THEY LITERALLY GOT NO NOTIFICATION.

UM, THEIR DRIVEWAY WAS BLOCKED AT 6:00 AM IN THE MORNING AND COULD NOT GET BACK INTO THEIR HOME UNTIL 9:00 PM.

I SAT THERE FOR ABOUT SEVEN HOURS.

UM, NOW THAT CONCERNS ME BECAUSE I HAVE MANY AND ALL THROUGH THERE THAT WE HAVE RECIPE PROBLEMS. THE ONLY WAY I CAN GET IN THERE IS IF I GET THROUGH THE FARM THAT WAS FARM WITH THAT,

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THEY'VE GOT TO BE A WAY WE CAN GET EMERGENCY ACCESS JUST FOR NOW, BECAUSE THIS OVERPASS, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN FOR FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS.

SO WHEN SOMEONE DIES BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET TO THEM AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY GOT ALL THE POWER IN THE WORLD.

WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY, I THINK IT WAS A GOOD POINT.

I THINK IT WAS THE THINGS THAT MR. MAYBELLE DISCUSS AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR VALUABLE INPUT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON IT.

THIS IS YOUR ROCKY.

YOU'RE GOING TO GET THIS ON THE AGENDA.

WITH THE AMENDMENTS AS NOTED.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CONCERNS ON THIS, MR. I HAD MENTIONED TO YOU BEFORE I NEED TO LEAVE IF THAT'S OKAY.

NEXT IS OUR INTRODUCTION OF THE NEW DIRECTOR FOR THE WARRANT DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES AND THE PROGRAM OVERALL, THE DEPARTMENTS, UM, MR. AND MR. MARKS.

[A. Introduction of New Director for the Warren County Department of Social Services and Program Overview of the Department – Beth Reavis/Jon Martz]

AWESOME.

ALL TANGLED UP.

I AM ALL TANGLED UP.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

UM, I W IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO JOHN MARS.

HE IS THE NEW DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL SERVICES.

HE COMES TO US FROM NEW KENT COUNTY.

UM, JOHN WENT TO SCHOOL AT TEXAS TCU FROM MY OLD STOMPING GROUNDS.

AND, UH, HE FINISHED HIS DEGREE AT MARY BALDWIN.

HE HAS BEEN IN SOCIAL SERVICES FOR OUR 13 YEARS, AND HE'S BEEN A DIRECTOR FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS.

AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE PLEASED.

I TOOK HIM AROUND THIS MORNING, INTRODUCED HIM TO ALL THE STAFF, AND THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT HIM BEING THERE.

AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT HIM BEING THERE.

SO I THINK HE'S GOING TO BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY.

I'M THRILLED TO BE HERE.

MY WIFE'S FAMILY IS FROM WARREN COUNTY.

THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOR GENERATIONS AND THIS IS AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY FOR ME BEING ABLE TO BRING HER HOME.

UH, AND I'M EXCITED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

I LOVE THE STAFF THAT I'VE MET SO FAR.

UH, WE'VE GOT A WONDERFUL STAFF AND, UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU.

SO THANK YOU.

AND IF YOU EVER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'RE THERE TO HELP TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AS A GENERAL RULE FOR EVERY DOLLAR SPENT LOCALLY.

SO MS. COLORS, YOU ASKED FOR AN EXPLANATION ABOUT OUR FUNDINGS THOUGH.

I HAVE A PRESENTATION AND DWAYNE'S GOING TO PUT IT UP FOR ME.

THERE WE GO.

SO THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF OUR FUNDING AND THE DIFFERENT FUNDING STREAMS THAT WE HAVE.

UM, I KNOW A LOT OF THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE GRANTS, BUT THESE ARE, THESE ARE PRETTY FIXED.

THE FUNDING STREAMS THAT WE HAVE.

SO FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WE GET ABOUT 41%.

THIS IS ON OUR OVERALL BUDGET.

THE STATE REVENUES ABOUT 29% AND THE LOCAL MATCH REQUIRED IS 30% NEXT SLIDE.

AND IT'S JUST A PIE CHART JUST TO KIND OF SHOW YOU HOW IT LOOKS.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CERTAINLY PAYS THE BULK OF IT.

AND, UM, AND THE STATE AND THE LOCALITY ARE ABOUT THE SAME NEXT SLIDE, WHERE IT IS WHERE, AND I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN THAT THE OTHER DAY ADMINISTRATION, THE, UH, LOCALITY PICKS UP MORE OF THE COST.

AND SO, UM, IT'S ABOUT 41% FEDERAL MONEY STATE MONEY IS ABOUT 20% AND 39% IS THE LOCALITY, BUT IT MOSTLY AFFECTS THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS.

SO THE SALARIES, WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT SALARIES, THAT'S WHAT I'M IN, IS THE STATE DOESN'T HAVE AS MUCH OF A STAKE IN THE SALARIES IS THE LOCALITY AND WE'RE CONSIDERED COUNTY EMPLOYEES.

SO THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

UM, THE DEPARTMENTS, OR WAS IT STATE SUPERVISED, LOCALLY ADMINISTERED.

SO, UM, AND FOR EVERY DOLLAR SPENT ON ADMINISTRATION, THE COUNTY RECEIVES ABOUT 60 CENTS IN REIMBURSEMENT, WHICH WOULD FALL ALONG WITH IF IT INCREASES, THE REIMBURSEMENT WOULD GO ALONG WITH THAT.

SO YOU GET, YOU GET SOME REIMBURSEMENT IF YOU INCREASED OUR SOURS, NEXT SLIDE.

SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT SPENT ON SOCIAL SERVICES IN THE COUNTY IS ABOUT $62 MILLION, 62.1.

AND, UH, WARREN COUNTY SHERIFF, THAT IS $1.7 MILLION

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THE LOCALITY RECEIVES ABOUT 74 CENTS IN REIMBURSEMENT.

NEXT ONE.

NOW THIS IS, THIS IS OUR PROGRAM BUDGET.

SO YOU'RE SEEING, UM, THE MATCH RATES.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT FAMILY PRESERVATION, FOUGHT THIS LITTLE THING, SEE IF IT WORKS, I'M NOT CLOSE ENOUGH.

IN ORDER TO GET THAT MONEY TO LOOK HOW HE HAS TO PUT UP 15.5% TO GET UP TO ASK IN ORDER TO DRAW DOWN THAT MONEY SUPPORT SERVICES, 15.5% LEVEL MATCH ADULT SERVICES.

THERE'S A 20% 50.5.

YOU PURCHASE THE SERVICES.

THAT'S THE NEW FEATURES OF SERVICE IS THE MONEY THAT WE'VE BEEN ON FAMILIES THAT ARE TRYING TO GET OFF WELFARE AND GO TO WORK.

EMILY'S GETTING ON ME.

SO, UM, THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR, UM, BUDGET BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE GET PEOPLE OFF WELFARE AND INTO THE WORKFORCE.

SO WE CAN PAY FOR TRAINING.

WE CAN PAY FOR TRANSPORTATION.

WE CAN PAY FOR TOOLS JUST, JUST ABOUT ANYTHING THAT FURTHERS SOMEONE'S EFFORTS TO GO TO WORK AND GET INTO THE WORKFORCE AND BE ABLE TO BE SELF SUFFICIENT.

UM, THEN ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES, YOU'VE GOT A 15.5%.

AND THEN FOR THE FOUR YEAR TRAINING GRANT IS 43%.

AND THAT'S, THAT GOES ALONG WITH TH THEY, THE LOCALITY GETS MORE ADMINISTRATIVE TRAINING WOULD BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS.

AND THAT'S WHY THE, THE, UH, BUT IT'S ONLY $800, $800.

SO OVERALL FOR PROGRAMS, THESE PROGRAMS THAT YOU SEE LISTED HERE, THE MATCH RATE OVERALL IS ABOUT 4%.

IS THERE, IS THAT LIKE THE $800 TRAINING GRANT? YEAH.

IS THAT ALL THERE IS, I MEAN, THERE ARE, IS, THERE ARE, CAN YOU APPLY FOR MORE? YOU CAN, IF WE TURN ON OUR BUDGET AND WE ASKED FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR TRAINING, UH, WE CAN DRAW DOWN MORE MONEY BASED ON WHAT WE'RE BUDGETED FOR HERE.

BUT THE STATE HAS A VERY SPECIFIC AND FRANKLY, OUTDATED FORMULA FOR DETERMINING HOW MUCH LOCALITIES GET REIMBURSED.

AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY REVIEWING THAT.

AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT REDOING THE WHOLE FORMULA.

THE PROBLEM IS NOBODY WHO WROTE IT AS AROUND ANYMORE.

SO NOBODY KNOWS WHY WE HAVE IT THE WAY WE HAVE IT.

THEY JUST KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU DO.

AND LOCALITIES ARE MOSTLY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.

THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET FROM YEAR TO YEAR TO YEAR.

IF YOU START CHANGING THE FORMULA, THEN YOU START CHANGING THE REIMBURSEMENTS.

WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU GET WINNERS AND LOSERS AND YOUR BIGGER LOCALITIES START DRAWING DOWN MORE MONEY, LEAVING LESS FOR YOUR SMALLER LOCALITIES OR LOCALLY LIKE WARREN COUNTY.

WE'RE GOING TO GET STUCK IN THE MIDDLE.

WE'RE NOT VAGUE, WE'RE NOT SMALL.

AND SO THERE'S A CHANCE THAT WE COULD START LOSING SOME OF THE REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE STATE AS THEY START CHANGING THE FORMULA.

SO WE NEED TO BE VERY SURE THAT WE'RE ADVOCATING AND VACO IS A VERY GOOD ORGANIZATION TO BE ADVOCATING FOR THAT BECAUSE YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE REIMBURSEMENT THAT YOUR LOCALITIES ARE GETTING REMAINS CONSISTENT.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, VERY WELL, IT'S SO HARD TO BUDGET.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR BUDGET IS GOING TO BE, IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO ALLOCATE FOR WHAT PROGRAMS. AND SO, YEAH, WE COULD TWEAK HERE AND THERE AND MOVE ONE BUDGET LINE TO THE NEXT AND ASK FOR MORE ON THIS BUDGET LINE AND LESS THAN THAT BUDGET LINE.

BUT THE OVERALL AMOUNT WE GET FROM THE STATE REMAINS FAIRLY CONSISTENT, AS LONG AS THE FORMULA THAT THEY'RE USING REMAINS CONSISTENT.

THAT KIND OF, SORT OF ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

IT KIND OF DOES, BUT I'M STILL CONFUSED IF YOU, IF YOU SEE A NEED AND YOU WANT TO GO FROM 1800, $800 TO $8,000, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF THAT HAPPENING? I MEAN, MAYBE THAT'S WAY OUT OF THE REALM OF THINGS, BUT IF YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM YES.

AND YOU WANT TO HELP SOLVE IT, ASKING FOR MONEY SHOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE.

BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME, THAT IT IS, YES, IT IS BECAUSE WE COULD ALLOCATE MORE MONEY TO THAT BUDGET LINE, BUT WE'D REALLY HAVE TO TAKE IT AND MOVE IT FROM ANOTHER BUDGET LINE INTO THAT, BECAUSE THE AMOUNT YOU'RE GOING TO GET FROM THE STATE IS GOING TO BE FAIRLY CONSISTENT.

GOING TO GET THAT STATE FEDERAL SHARE NECESSARILY.

WE CAN MOVE IT AROUND, BUT WE'RE NOT

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DO YOU USE EVERY DOLLAR THAT YOU GET FROM YOUR GENERALLY? YES, SIR.

THIS $800.

IS THAT $800 TO TRAIN FOR A FULL YEAR FOR YOUR ENTIRE STAFF? NO, MA'AM NOT.

THAT SPECIFIC TRAINING LINE FOR, FOR FUNDING FOR FUNDING IS BASICALLY FOSTER CARE.

FOSTER PARENTS, WELL, FORAYS, FEDERAL REIMBURSEMENT FOR FOSTER CARE.

UM, IF YOU HAVE KIDS COMING INTO FOSTER CARE, YOU WANT TO GET THEM, UH, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE QUALIFY FOR 40 FUNDING BECAUSE YOU GET A HUNDRED PERCENT REIMBURSEMENT RATE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

AND FORAY REALLY DEPENDS ON THE FAMILY CIRCUMSTANCES.

THE SIX MONTHS PRIOR TO WHEN THE CHILD COMES INTO FOSTER CARE, THAT'S AN ELIGIBILITY QUESTION.

SO WE'VE REALLY JUMPED ON ONE THAT OPENED UP A CAN OF WORMS, BUT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE TRAINING YOUR STAFF TO PROPERLY PURSUE THE FORAY, BECAUSE IF YOU DECLARE SOMEBODY WHO'S 40 ELIGIBLE AND THEY'RE NOT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPAY THAT MONEY.

WELL, I, I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS TOTALLY UNREALISTIC.

THAT'S OUR T THAT'S JUST THE 40 BUDGET AND THE, AND YOU KNOW, FROM CPM T YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO DETERMINE FOR ELIGIBILITY FIRST, CAUSE THAT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT FEDERAL MONEY.

AND THEN WE USE THE CSA FUNDS.

AND THEN IF NEITHER ONE OF THOSE PODS CAN BE USED AND WE HAVE TO USE SOMETIMES LOCAL, ONLY MONEY, BUT THAT'S RARE WHO, WHO DETERMINES THE FORMULA, WHO MAKES UP THE FORMULA THAT YOU GO BY? THE LAST PERSON I KNEW AT THE STATE LEVEL WHO KNEW WHAT THE FORMULA WAS WITH JARRIS SIMPSON.

HE WAS ONE OF THE, UM, UM, FINANCE DIRECTORS.

CHIEF FINANCIAL DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL SERVICES.

HE RETIRED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND THE FORMULA'S STILL IN PLACE, BUT NOW THEY JUST PLUG THE NUMBERS IN.

THEY HAD A LOT OF TURNOVER AT THE STATE LEVEL.

UM, MIKE GUMP, UM, HE WAS ALSO IN CHARGE OF FINANCES AT THE STATE.

HE RETIRED, UH, LAST YEAR AS WELL.

SO NOW WE HAVE NEW PEOPLE IN THESE PLACES AND THE STATE BOARD OF SOCIAL SERVICES IS STARTING TO LOOK AT, OKAY, WHY DID WE DO THE THINGS THAT WE DO? WHY IS JUST BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT THAT WAY? DOES THAT MEAN IT'S RIGHT.

UM, BUT NOBODY REALLY HAS AN ANSWER.

I ASKED THE COMMISSIONER ALL THE TIME.

I SAID, WELL, WHO CAME UP WITH THESE NUMBERS AND WHY ARE WE USING THESE NUMBERS? WELL, NOBODY CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

YOU OFTEN GET THE ANSWER.

IT'S COMPLICATED.

WELL, YEAH, IT IS.

IT'S VERY COMPLICATED, BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO ADVOCATE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE FAIR SHARE FOR WARREN COUNTY.

THEN THAT'S A QUESTION.

THAT 66 FIVES IS STARTING SALARY IN THE SCHOOLS.

YUP.

AND JOHN'S VERY SPENDS A LOT OF TIME WITH THE LEAGUE OF SOCIAL SERVICES EXECUTIVES, AND THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THE STATE GOES TO, TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE LOCALITIES.

SO THEY HAVE PERSONNEL COMMITTEES.

UM, AND, AND JUST RECENTLY THEY CHANGED ONE OF THE RULES IN THE PERSONNEL COMMITTEE TO ALLOW US TO HIRE SOCIAL WORKERS THAT HAVE AN EDUCATION DEGREE BEFORE WE COULDN'T, WE COULDN'T HIRE TEACHERS, WHICH WAS RIDICULOUS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A WONDERFUL BACKGROUND, UM, WORKING WITH CHILDREN, WHICH IS WHAT MOST OF OUR SOCIAL WORKERS DO.

AND IT'S, WE HAD TO EXCLUDE THEM.

WE HAD TO SCREEN THEM OUT.

NOW THEY'VE ALLOWED US TO USE EDUCATION DEGREES AS PART OF THE MANDATE, THE KIND OF DEGREES THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO BECOME A SOCIAL WORKER.

SO THAT OPENED UP A WHOLE NEW AVENUE FOR US BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE GET TWO OR THREE APPLICATIONS FOR OUR POSITIONS.

AND SO WE DON'T HAVE A HUGE POOL.

SO WHEN YOU EXCLUDE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE LOCALLY, WHO MAYBE DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE CLASSROOM ANYMORE, UM, THAT REALLY LIMITS THE POOL THAT WE CAN DRAW FROM.

AND SINCE THE OTHER LOCALITIES AROUND US PAY MORE, WE'RE OFTENTIMES, YOU KNOW, THE TRAINING GROUNDS.

SO WE HIRE THEM.

IT TAKES ABOUT A YEAR FOR A SOCIAL WORKER TO GET ALL THE TRAINING THAT THEY NEED.

AND THEN THEY GO TO FREDERICK COUNTY AND WINCHESTER.

SO IN ORDER IF I WERE A TEACHER AND I WANTED TO CHANGE TO GO INTO SOCIAL, I COULD APPLY AND I WOULD GET YOU AGAIN, THE JOB TRAINING FOR THE SOCIAL WORK PART NOW WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO COLLEGE AND GET A DEGREE IN THAT.

YEAH, WE LOOK FOR HUMAN SERVICES DEGREES.

NOW IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A SOCIAL WORK DEGREE.

SO A LOT OF THINGS, PSYCHOLOGY, SOCIOLOGY DEGREES, UM, THE STATE IS EXPANDING THE POOL A LITTLE BIT MORE.

AND I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE REALLY KIND OF ILLUSTRATES WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST WHEN WE ARE LOOKING TO BRING IN SERVICES WORKERS.

ONE MORE, THERE YOU GO.

THAT WAS THE COMPARISON I WAS, I WAS TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THE LAST TIME I CAME BEFORE YOU, AND THESE ARE WARREN COUNTY.

THESE ARE WARREN COUNTY NUMBERS, AND THAT'S A START

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AND THEY DO THE SAME JOB THAT MY GIRLS DO.

MY LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, CAUSE WE HA WE HAVE HIRED SOME MEN LIGHTLY.

SO SAME DEGREE REQUIREMENTS MY STAFF HAS TO DO ON CALL, WHICH IS EVERY NIGHT AND ALL WEEKEND AND ALL HOLIDAYS.

AND, UM, THE SCHOOL SOCIAL WORKERS DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

AND THEY WORK FEWER DAYS THAN, THAN MY FOLKS DO ALSO.

SO IT'S JUST REALLY HARD.

THEY ARE WORKING SO HARD.

WE WERE, WE WERE TALKING TO THEM TODAY.

THEY ARE SO STRESSED.

ONE OF MY CPS WORKERS HAS 40 INVESTIGATIONS OPEN 40 SHE'S ONLY BEEN THERE A YEAR AND SHE IS OVERWHELMED.

SO WE THERE'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO MAKE, HIRE MORE PEOPLE.

WE'VE GOT AN ADVERTISEMENT OUT RIGHT NOW FOR THREE PEOPLE.

WE, SOMEBODY COMING ON, UM, IN MID MONTH, UM, THAT HAS SOME EXPERIENCE, WHICH IS GREAT.

UM, BUT, AND WE'VE GOT THREE POSITIONS WHERE WE'VE GOT ADVERTISED NOW AND WE'RE WAITING ON APPLICATIONS FOR THOSE TO COME IN, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A CONSTANT CHANGE.

AND I KNOW SHERIFF HAS IT.

UM, FIRE AND RESCUE HAS IT IS, IS JUST, IT'S JUST A PROBLEM.

BUT, UM, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE APOLOGIZE WERE YOU, HOW WAS JUST GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION, BUT YOU GO AHEAD.

WHAT IS THE, THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN THAT $37,650 OF WHAT IS COMPENSATED BY, UM, THE LOCALITY US AND EITHER IS IT JUST STATES OR, UM, YOU SAID STATE AND FEDERAL PAYS TOWARDS, OR JUST AS THE STATE AND THE LOCALITY PAY TOWARDS THEIR SALARY.

YOU LOOKED BACK TO THE, UM, ONE OF THE EARLIER SLIDES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION, THAT'S WHERE OPERATIONS COMES OUT OF.

SO YOU'RE GOING ABOUT 60 CENTS BACK ON THE DOLLAR.

SO AT THAT $37,000, UM, ALMOST TWO THIRDS A DAY, TECHNICALLY IS MONEY THAT'S COMING FROM THE STATE.

HOWEVER, BECAUSE WE'RE STATE SUPERVISED LOCALLY ADMINISTERED WARREN COUNTY CUTS THE CHECK AND PAYS AT $37,000.

AND THEN YOU GET REIMBURSED ON THE BACK END ABOUT 60% OF THAT.

SO THE ISSUE BECOMES MA'AM IS THE FACT THAT THE STATE HAS A CAP ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET.

AND WE CAN HAVE 10 MORE POSITIONS AS LONG AS THEY'RE LOCALLY FUNDED.

CORRECT.

AS LONG AS WE'RE ONLY GOING TO GET WHERE THE ISSUE IS, IS THE STATE CAPS, HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO GET.

IS THAT BASED ON POPULATION? I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS IT'S BASED ON IT'S BASED ON CASELOAD, IT'S BASED ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF PERSPECTIVE, UM, I'VE TALKED EARLIER THAT OUR CPS WORKER HAS 40 ACTIVE CASES, NATURALLY SETS OF STANDARDS OR 15 PER CASE SLIDE.

UM, AND WE HAVE WORKERS TO HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPENING BECAUSE IT'S SO INTENSIVE.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO CPS AND TALKING ABOUT THE SAFETY OF CHILDREN, RIGHT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

AND SO IF YOU HAVE 40 CASES, YOU HAVE 25, 26 WORKING DAYS IN A MONTH, YOU HAVE LESS THAN A DAY, THE SPEND ON INVESTIGATIONS OF ALLEGED ABUSE OR, AND WE'RE SEEING SERIOUS INJURIES TO CHILDREN.

HOW MANY CPS WORKERS DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE? TWO, TWO, HOW MANY IN THE PERFECT WORLD WITH THE CONSIDERATION OF, UM, POPULATION OR WHATEVER THE STATE USES SHOULD WE HAVE? UH, THERE WERE UNCLEAR ON, CAUSE THE OTHER CASEWORKER REALLY DIDN'T KNOW HOW MANY CASES SHE HAD, BUT, UH, YOU'VE ALREADY HIT ABOUT 15, I'D SAY FIVE, FIVE.

SO IS OUR TARGET TWO VACANCIES WITH THREE VACANCIES, THREE VACANCIES.

SO WE HAVE THREE POSITIONS, YOUR FILL FILLING, AND THAT WILL GET YOU WHERE THAT WILL, THAT WILL MAKE IT BEARER.

WELL, WE ALSO HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND TOO, IS IN AN IDEAL WORLD, YOU DON'T SEND A WORKER OUT UNTIL THEY'RE FULLY TRAINED AND THAT WOULD TAKE A YEAR.

SO UNLESS YOU CAN ATTRACT SOMEBODY WITH THOSE TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE TO COME IN, YOU'RE LOOKING A YEAR DOWN THE ROAD BEFORE YOU'RE UP AND RUNNING FULLY.

LIKE IT SHOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WORKER WE TALKED TO THIS MORNING, SHE'S JUST BARELY BEEN THERE YEARS.

SHE HAS FOUR PIECES.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ATTRACT MORE EXPERIENCED PEOPLE? WELL, HEY, YOU MAKE IT A REALLY GOOD PLACE TO WORK.

AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT BECAUSE WHILE MONEY IS GREAT MONEY, ISN'T EVERYTHING.

IF IT'S A HORRIBLE WORK ENVIRONMENT, IT'S NOT WORTH THE MONEY.

RIGHT,

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IS THERE, IS THERE SUCH A THING? OKAY.

SO I KNOW LIKE NATIONALLY THERE WAS A SHORTAGE OF NURSES AND THEY, SO THE NURSING COMMUNITY DECIDED TO DO CONTRACTORS, RIGHT? THEY CONTRACTED THOSE PEOPLE AS OPPOSED TO HIRING OVER OVERHEAD.

IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN THE SOCIAL SERVICE? I MEAN, ARE THERE CONTRACTORS WHO COULD COME IN AND, AND AUGMENT YOUR STAFF UNTIL YOU COULD GET TRAINING, YOU CAN HIRE WHAT WE CALL EMERGENCY TEMPORARY WORKERS, WHICH IF YOU CAN FIND ONE WHO IS MAYBE WILLING TO COME OUT OF RETIREMENT, WHO WERE, HAS SWITCHED JOBS AND IS LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING SHORT TERM, GREAT.

THE ODDS OF FINDING THAT THOUGH, WHEN EVERYBODY'S LOOKING FOR IT, WE EVOLVE ALL THE WAY BACK, OUR ARGUMENT OF HOW MUCH ARE YOU GOING TO PAY THEM TO MAKE IT WORTH THEIR TIME AS WELL.

NOW, SOME OF THE UNIVERSITIES OR FIVE UNIVERSITIES IN VIRGINIA WHO PARTICIPATE IN A STIPEND PROGRAM, RIGHT? WE, OUR KIDS GET STIPENDS TO TAKE SOCIAL WORK COURSES.

THEY ACTUALLY TAKE SOME SOCIAL SERVICES TRAININGS WHILE THEY'RE IN SCHOOL.

AND SO WHEN THEY COME OUT OF SCHOOL, THEY'VE ALREADY GOT SOME OF THE TRAININGS UNDER THEIR BELT AND THEY HAVE TO STAY WITH YOU FOR A YEAR OR THEY HAVE TO REPAY THE STIPEND.

WE HAVE ONE, WE HAVE ONE RADFORD UNIVERSITY BACK IN NEW KENT.

I HIRED A COUPLE OF THEM OUT OF RAPPER UNIVERSITY.

THEY HAVE A LEG UP ON OTHER NEW WORKERS, BUT THEY'RE STILL NEW WORKERS.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY FRESH OUT OF COLLEGE, DEALING WITH LIFE SITUATIONS THAT THEY ARE PREPARED FOR.

CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE.

HAVE THEY HAVE, IS THERE ANY THOUGHT ALONG THE LINES SINCE THEY'VE OPENED IT UP TO TEACHERS TO OPEN IT UP TO NURSES? YEAH.

IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT THE DEGREE.

SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JUST TEACHING.

IF IT'S, IF IT'S IN, IT CAN BE PSYCHOLOGY, IT CAN BE SOCIOLOGY.

IT CAN BE SOCIAL WORK.

IT COULD BE EARLY IN HIS THINKING WITH COVID.

THERE MIGHT BE A LOT OF NURSES THAT DECIDE SOCIAL WORK LOOKS REALLY GOOD.

IT DEPENDS, YOU KNOW, UH, A PHYS ED MAJOR, I PROBABLY COULDN'T GET QUALIFIED, BUT I WAS A HISTORY MAJOR IN COLLEGE.

UM, AND ONCE I GOT TO DO ANYTHING, WELL, NOT MUCH, BUT IT'S HUMAN SERVICES TYPE AREAS.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING.

THAT'S WHAT THE STATE REQUIRES.

YOU TOLD US LAST TIME THAT YOU WERE SHORT ABOUT EIGHT PEOPLE TOTAL.

ON BOTH SIDES.

BENEFITS, AND YEAH.

IS THAT STILL TRUE? I MEAN, I KNOW IT IS ONLY WENT FROM WIVES.

WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY COMING ON MID MONTH, A YOUNG MAN WHO HAS SOME EXPERIENCE, UM, HE'S GOING TO BE IN, UM, ONGOING, UH, FOSTER CARE.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS EXPERIENCED, YOU STILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FIT FOR THE JOB.

AND SOME PEOPLE ARE VERY WELL SUITED TO CPS INVESTIGATIONS AND SOME PEOPLE ARE BETTER.

AND THE FOLLOWUP.

SO WE HAVE ONE WORKER THAT MAYBE BRINGS YOUR CHILD, TAKES YOUR CHILD AWAY FROM YOU.

WELL, THEN YOU TURN RIGHT AROUND AND START TO DEVELOP A RELATIONSHIP TO TRY TO GET THAT CHILD BACK.

WELL, THE SAME PERSON DOING BOTH THOSE JOBS IS REALLY TOUGH.

SO WE TRY TO KEEP IT SEPARATE, BUT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT KEEP THAT SEPARATE.

SO MORE STAFF WILL DEFINITELY WHEN WE FILL THOSE POSITIONS AND HAVE PEOPLE STAY, BUT YOU KNOW, BOTH JOHN AND I'VE EXPERIENCED, SOMEBODY SHOWS UP AND LEAVES AT LUNCH AND YOU NEVER SEE HIM AGAIN.

AND YOU NEVER KNOW WHY THE PROBLEM IS.

MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO.

WHEN YOU START WORKING CPS, YOU'RE LIKE, OH, I'M GOING TO HELP CHILDREN.

THAT'S GREAT.

BUT THEN WHEN YOU START SEEING WHAT YOU SEE IS VERY TRAUMATIC.

ESPECIALLY FOR THESE YOUNG KIDS COMING OUT OF SCHOOL, THEY, WE FIND THEM CRYING UNDERNEATH THEIR DESK.

IT'S THAT BAD.

SOME DAYS IT'S, IT'S A HARD JOB.

YOUR ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES, HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW? WE HAVE THREE OF HAVE A SENIOR WORKER.

SHE LEFT US, WENT TO ANOTHER LOCALITY AND CAME BACK AND SHE DOES A GREAT JOB.

AND WE HAVE TWO OTHER WORKERS THAT ARE WORKING ON ADULT SERVICES THAT ADEQUATE IT, I THINK RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S FINE.

YOU KNOW, THE BABY BOOMERS, ALL OF US ARE GETTING OLDER.

AND SO THERE'S MORE PEOPLE THAT NEED OUR SERVICES, BUT WE'RE ABLE TO HOLD OUR ON AND APS.

WE'RE DOING FINE AND APS.

AND SOME PEOPLE PREFER THAT TO WORKING WITH THE CHILDREN.

THOSE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CONSTANT.

WHAT ABOUT YOUR FOSTER CARE? DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE OVERLAPPING AND DOING, EXCUSE ME TOO, OR DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE DESIGNATED FOR FOSTER CARE? GENERALLY YOU NEED TO HAVE DEDICATED STAFF TO FOSTER CARE BECAUSE THE, THE CHILD WILL SOMETIMES THE ONLY CONSTANT IN THEIR LIFE IS THE WORKER BECAUSE THEY OFTEN MOVE FROM PLACEMENT TO PLACEMENT, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN WITH A LOT OF SERIOUS BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS. UM, AND A LOT OF KIDS THAT ARE IN INSTITUTIONAL SETTINGS WHERE THEY HAVE TO BE, UM, BECAUSE THEY HAVE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES OR DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS KIND OF ISSUES.

AND SO THE WORKER IS THE ONE PERSON.

SO WE TRY AS WE MAY, WE TRY TO KEEP

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SO THE CHILD HAS SOMETHING CONSTANT, BUT YOU KNOW, EVEN OUR FOSTER PARENTS ARE COMPLAINING.

YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD FOUR WORKERS IN THE, I'VE BEEN A FOSTER PARENT A YEAR AND I'VE HAD FOUR DIFFERENT WORKERS TO TRY TO DEAL WITH.

AND IT'S A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP THAT YOU DEVELOPED WITH THE FOSTER PARENTS, WITH THE BIRTH PARENTS AND WITH THE CHILDREN.

AND SO THE LAW, THE MORE WE CAN KEEP THOSE CONSISTENT, THE BETTER IT IS FOR EVERYBODY.

SO HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU HAVE ON STAFF THAT WORK JUST WITH FOSTER CARE? FOSTER CARE, TWO, THREE, THREE.

THAT'S NOT ADEQUATE, BUT IT'S WORKING OR, WELL, YOU HAVE TO VISIT EVERY CHILD EVERY MONTH AND, UH, THEY, THEY'RE NOT ALL IN MORGAN COUNTY.

SO THEY'RE DRIVING ALL OVER THE STATE TO SEE THE KIDS, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO DO FOSTER CARE PLANS.

THEY HAVE TO GO TO COURT, THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE STUFF WITH THE COURT.

SO THERE'S A LOT TO IT.

AND PLUS ALL THE DOCUMENTATION.

PLUS THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE FAP TEAM TO PRESENT THE CHILD'S NEEDS AND, AND DO ALL THE PAPERWORK THAT GOES WITH THAT, WHICH IS EXTENSIVE.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT TOO, FROM MY EXPERIENCE, GO PICK THE CHILD UP, BRING THEM TO THE MEETING, THEN TAKE THEM BACK.

AND IDEALLY FOSTER CARE IS THE GOAL WAS TO RETURN THE CHILD HOME.

WE DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH ADOPTION ONE DAY IF FOSTER CARE IS TRAUMATIC AND IT'S GOING TO LEAVE AN INDELIBLE MARK ON CHILD.

UM, SO YOUR FOSTER CARE WORKS ON ONLY WORKING WITH A CHILD AND WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL.

WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COURTS.

THEY HAVE TO BE WORKING WITH THE PARENTS, THE BIRTH PARENTS ALSO TO WORK ON WHATEVER ISSUE CAUSED THE SITUATION TO EVOLVE INTO FOSTER CARE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE RELATIONSHIP COMES IN.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE TRUST BETWEEN THE WORKER AND THE PARENTS, BECAUSE THE PARENTS REALLY HAVE TO KNOW WE'RE WORKING IN THEIR BEST INTEREST.

AND AFTER YOU'VE TAKEN THEIR CHILD FROM THEM, I WENT, ARE THEY REALLY GOING TO TRUST THAT YOU'RE WORKING IN THEIR BEST INTEREST? AND SO RETAINING STAFF, ESPECIALLY FOSTERED HERE IS SO VITAL TO THE SUCCESS OF CHILDREN IN FOSTER CARE.

AND THEN WE HAVE TIMELINES THAT WE HAVE TO MEET, YOU KNOW, THE FEDERAL, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SETS UP TIMELINE.

SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CHILD BACK IN THEIR HOME, THEN YOU HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET THEM A, UM, A PERMANENT, PERMANENT PLACE TO LIVE.

SO WE GOT TO MOVE QUICKLY TO TERMINATE PARENTAL RIGHTS AND, AND GET THAT CHILD OF AVAILABLE FOR ADOPTION AND TO LOOK FOR ADOPTIVE HOMES FOR THOSE CHILDREN.

AND SO THE WORKERS ARE DOING ALL THAT WORK ALL SUP THE SAME PEOPLE, FOSTER STAFF TAKES CARE OF THE ADOPTION ISSUES AS WELL.

SO HOW MANY REGULAR OFFICE STAFF AND I DON'T MEAN REGULAR IN ANY CONDESCENDING WAY, BUT YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANTS OR OFFICE MANAGER, WHAT DO YOU HAVE? I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN OVERALL OF, OKAY.

YOUR STAFF IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE AREA.

UM, THERE WOULD BE THE DIRECTOR AND THEN A PERSON THAT DOES FINANCES, HR.

UM, WHAT ELSE? EVERY PERSONNEL, EVERY, EVERY PAYROLL, THE BUDGET, THERE WAS ONE PERSON THAT DOES THAT.

THEN WE HAVE A LADY WE JUST HIRED.

WHO'S GOING TO LEARN THAT PIECE TOO.

SO WE'LL HAVE A BACKUP CAUSE IF ANYTHING HAPPENS TO MICKEY, NOBODY KNOWS WHAT TO DO.

SO SHE MAKES, KEEPS THE MOTION GOING.

SO WE JUST HIRED SOMEBODY TO LEARN THAT PROGRAM.

AND SHE ALSO DOES ALL OF OUR IT SUPPORT, UM, YOU KNOW, GETTING PEOPLE SHE SPENT TWO DAYS, WELL, TWO WEEKS TRYING TO GET ME AN EMAIL ACCOUNT FROM THE STATE AND GET ALL MY SECURITY CLEARANCES IN PLACE SO THAT I COULD GET THE INFORMATION I NEED.

SHE'S BEEN WORKING ON JOHN'S FOR OVER A WEEK AND A HALF JUST TO GET HIM WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO HIS JOB.

IT'S ALL VERY COMPLICATED AND SLOW.

SO SHE'S DEALING WITH THE PHONES.

SHE'S DEALING WITH EMAIL ACCOUNTS, SHE'S DEALING WITH THE COMPUTER, THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE FROM THE STATE TO DO OUR JOB, WHICH ARE COMPLICATED FOR MONTHS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A STATE PROGRAM THAT WE SCAN OUR DOCUMENTS.

WE HAVE ELECTRONIC CASE RECORDS.

WE SCAN OUR DOCUMENTS THAT HASN'T BEEN WORKING FOR MONTHS.

AND SO PEOPLE GO TO DO THEIR WORK AND THEY CAN'T GET TO THE DOCUMENTS.

THEY NEED TO, THE STATE'S BEEN WORKING ON THAT.

SO A LOT OF, LOT OF WORK BETWEEN THE STATE AND THAT POSITION.

AND THEN, UM, OUR COMMUNITY LIAISON, MICHELLE SMELSER THAT WAS HERE LAST TIME AND GOT AN AWARD FOR THE WORK SHE DID WITH THE THERMAL SHELTER.

SHE'S IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE AREA.

AND, UH, AND WE DO HAVE AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

SO THAT'S THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF.

THEN ON THE BENEFITS SIDE, THERE'S TWO SUPERVISORS AND ABOUT 11 WORKERS.

AND THEN ON THE SERVICES SIDE YOU'VE GOT, UM, AND THERE'S NO SUPPORT STAFF

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AND BENEFITS.

THEY DO EVERYTHING FOR THEMSELVES.

AND THEN THE SERVICES STAFF HAS ONE SUPPORT PERSON IT'S CALLED HUMAN SERVICES AID.

SHE DOES A LOT OF THE TYPING INTO THE SYSTEM THAT THE WORKERS WILL DICTATE AND THEN GIVE THEM THE TRAN AND SHE'LL DO THE TRANSCRIPTION INTO THE SYSTEM BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE MOVE THEY MAKE HAS TO BE DOCUMENTED IN A SYSTEM OR IS IT HASN'T HAPPENED.

YOU KNOW, THE CASE RECORDS HAVE TO BE EXTENSIVE.

ALL THE VISITS HAVE TO BE DOCUMENTED.

ALL THE PLANS HAVE TO BE DOCUMENTED.

ALL THE COURT APPEARANCES HAVE TO BE DOCUMENTED ALL YOUR CONTACTS WITH EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THE CASE FROM THE PARENTS, THE CHILDREN, TO THE FOSTER PARENTS, TO, UM, DOCTORS, TEACHERS, ATTORNEYS, ALL THAT HAS TO BE DOCUMENTED IN A SYSTEM, UH, FOR BOTH CHILD WELFARE AND ADULT SERVICES.

SO THEY SPEND AN AWFUL LOT OF TIME, YOU KNOW, COMPLETING THIS STUFF IN THOSE SYSTEMS. SO THERE'S ABOUT, THERE'S ABOUT 41 PEOPLE ALL TOLD.

AND SO WE'VE GOT EIGHT TO NINE SOCIAL WORKERS, AND THEN I'VE GOT A SUPPORT STAFF.

SO I HAVE RECEPTIONISTS PEOPLE THAT ANSWER THE PHONE AND WE GET 1200 CALLS A MONTH AND WE GET 800 PEOPLE IN THE FRONT DOOR.

SO THE RECEPTIONIST TAB IS BUSY.

PLUS WE HAVE ONLINE APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE TO BE REGISTERED AND RESEARCHED AND SET UP IN THE SYSTEM DOCUMENTS.

WE PULL REPORTS FROM SOCIAL SECURITY, FROM VIRGINIA EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION FROM, UM, SEVERAL FEDERAL SYSTEMS. YEAH, THE SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT.

WE, WE GET ALL THAT THIRD PARTY INFORMATION.

SO WE CAN VERIFY THAT AGAINST WHAT THE CLIENT TELLS US.

SO WE HAVE INDEPENDENT WAYS TO VERIFY MONEY AND, UH, SOCIAL SECURITY PAYMENTS, UM, UNEMPLOYMENT PAYMENTS.

UM, WE HAVE SYSTEMS THAT WE CAN CHECK AND SEE IF SOMEBODY HAS BEEN WORKING.

SO ALL THE, ALL THOSE REPORTS HAVE TO BE PULLED ON EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL IN THE CASE, AND THEY'RE ALL IN A DIFFERENT SYSTEM.

SO THERE'S JUST A LOT OF STUFF THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE CHAT.

DO YOU HAVE MUCH STAFF TURNOVER WITH THAT SIDE WITH BENEFITS? SAME, IT'S THE SAME SALARY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US AND THE OTHER LOCALITIES, BUT IT'S MORE, A LITTLE MORE STABLE THAN IT IS ON THE SOCIAL WORK SIDE.

CAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT CONSTANT TENSION AND CONSTANT WORK AND UP 40 CASES AS OPPOSED TO 15, THE CASE LOADS ACROSS THE STATE, OR ARE MUCH MORE BALANCED IN THE BENEFITS SIDE.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE THAT INTENSE STRESS THAT YOU HAVE ON THE SOCIAL WORK SIDE, THE ADVANTAGES YOU HAVE IN THE BENEFITS YOU HAVE, THERE'S NO DEGREE REQUIREMENT.

THAT COMES BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.

THAT POSITION AND YOUR TRAINING TIME GENERALLY WOULD BE A LOT LESS.

I THINK YOU CAN TRAIN PEOPLE ON SPECIFIC PROGRAMS. LIKE WE HAVE WORKERS THAT DEAL WITH NOTHING BUT NURSING HOME APPLICATIONS AND THE, AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN NURSING HOMES AND SOMEBODY THAT DEALS WITH DISABILITY CLIENTS AND SOMEBODY THAT DEALS WITH WOMEN AND CHILDREN THAT ARE GETTING CASH PAYMENTS.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM BACK TO WORK.

SO THAT'S A SPECIALIZED.

SO YOU CAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TRAIN THEM ON EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM FOR EVERYTHING.

CAUSE WE CAN SPECIALIZE TO SOME EXTENT 27 DIFFERENT KINDS OF MEDICAID.

IT'S A LOT.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

IF YOU WILL, IF YOU RECEIVED MORE INCREASE, INCREASED FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY, WOULD THAT PROMPT, INCREASED FUNDING FROM THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL? IS THAT THE WAY THAT THAT IS THAT A, THAT IT COULD BECAUSE WHAT THE STATE ALSO LOOKS AT, OR, AND ESPECIALLY WHAT THEY'RE STARTING TO LOOK AT NOW IS HOW MUCH SKIN IN THE GAME DOES A LOCALITY HAVE AND YOUR MORE SUCCESSFUL LOCALITIES HAVE MORE OF AN INPUT FROM THEIR LOCALITY AND RELY LESS ON THE STATE.

SO YEAH, YOU COULD IN TURN, GET MORE INCOME DOLLAR DOLLAR.

AND THAT WOULD BE A HUGE AND A HUGE BENEFIT FOR THE, WHERE THE COUNTY.

THEN ONE DAY I SPENT ONE DAY WITH THE STAFF AND I COULD TELL YOU THE IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE ON THEM WOULD BE TREMENDOUS.

AND A MOTIVATED STAFF IS FAR BETTER FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.

UM, AND ONE OF THE SLIDES WE HAD SHOWED THAT SOCIAL SERVICES GENERATES ABOUT $62 MILLION WORTH OF ECONOMIC ACTIVITY IN WARREN COUNTY ALONE.

MEDICAID IS THE BULK OF THAT.

UM, SNAP IS ANOTHER BIG PART OF IT.

AND SO THE MONEY BEING SPENT IN THE GROCERY STORES AND THE MONEY BEING SPENT IN THE DOCTOR'S OFFICES AND THE HOSPITALS, ALL TAXABLE MONEY

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SO THE MORE YOU INVEST IN YOUR SOCIAL SERVICES, THE MORE SUCCESSFUL WE ARE.

UH, THE MISSION OF VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT SOCIAL SERVICES IS TO HELP PEOPLE TRY AND OVER POVERTY.

AND SO THE MORE PEOPLE YOU GET INTO THE WORKFORCE AND THE MORE PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE THAT SUPPORT FOR THAT THEN BECOME SELF SUFFICIENT.

CAUSE THAT'S OUR GOAL WITH EVERYTHING WE DO, THE MORE ECONOMIC VIABILITY YOU GET, THE STRONGER YOUR COMMUNITY GETS.

SO THE MORE YOU IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, THE MORE YOU INVEST IN IT, THE STRONGER IT BECOMES.

AND THE MORE RETURN YOU GET BACK FROM IT AND THE BETTER JOB PEOPLE CAN DO, THEY'RE NOT OVERWHELMED.

YOU HAVE A DECENT SIZED CASELOAD AND YOU'RE NOT ON ON-CALL EVERY OTHER NIGHT AND WORK IN MOST OF THE NIGHT AND THEN WORKING AGAIN THE NEXT DAY, THEN YOU GET MORE QUALITY WORK, YOU GET MORE INVESTMENT, YOU GET MORE TIME WITH THE CLIENTS TIME WITH THE KIDS TIME WITH THE FAMILIES.

IT'S JUST ALL THERE.

SO YOU MUST REMIND US OF THIS.

BUT THAT'S OKAY.

I'M HAPPY THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED.

IT'S A SUBJECTIVE ANSWER.

WHAT IS YOUR SUCCESS RATE? UM, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT PROGRAM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SNAP PROGRAM, THEY USED TO DO A THING CALLED SNAP PARTICIPATION RATE.

AND THE GOAL WAS TO GET 80% OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR SNAP ON SNAP.

THEY REALLY DON'T FOLLOW THAT ANYMORE, BUT THE SHIT YOU SHOULDN'T BE ALSO THINKING ABOUT HOW MANY YOU'RE GETTING OFF OF SNOW.

YEAH, VERY MUCH.

SO THE VIEW PROGRAM, THE VIRGINIA INITIATIVE FOR EMPLOYMENT AND EDUCATION AND WORK, UM, USED TO BE CALLED WELFARE WROTE CALLED THAT ANYMORE.

UM, IT'S TANF TEMPORARY ASSISTANCE FOR NEEDY FAMILIES.

TEMPORARY IS THE GOAL.

UM, BY THE TIME YOU'RE DONE WITH YOUR 24 MONTHS BEING ON CANOPY, THE WORK PROGRAM, YOU SHOULD BE MORE EDUCATED.

YOU SHOULD BE MORE EMPLOYABLE.

YOU SHOULD HAVE A, UM, IF NOT AN AGREE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CERTIFICATION AND SOMETHING.

AND SO YEAH, WE LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE COME BACK THROUGH THE TEEN OF PROGRAM.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE TNF NUMBERS OVER THE YEARS, THEY'VE STEADILY DECLINED EVER SINCE THEY PUT THE WORK REQUIREMENT IN THERE.

IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING EDUCATED IS BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING TRENDS BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING JOBS.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE OLD CYCLE OF IT WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR GRANDMA.

I WAS GETTING IT FOR MY MOM'S GETTING IT FOR ME.

IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR MY KIDS.

NO, IT'S NOT.

IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU.

YOU DESERVE MORE.

YOUR KIDS DESERVE MORE.

YOU WANT MORE FOR THEM.

AND SO IT'S THE MOTIVATING PART OF WHAT WE DO.

SNAP PROGRAM NOW HAS AN APPOINTMENT AND TRAINING PART OF IT.

UH, IF YOU ARE A SINGLE ADULT WITH NO KIDS, YOU HAVE TO DO A WORK ACTIVITY IN ORDER TO KEEP YOUR SNAP.

ARE YOU ON SNAP? AND SO THE MORE EDUCATION WE'RE GIVING THEM, THE MORE TRAINING WE'RE GIVING THEM, THE MORE LOYAL THEY BECOME.

YOU GO FROM YOUR $9 AN HOUR JOBS TO YOU, $12 TO YOUR 15 AND SO ON.

ALL OF US STARTED OUT MINIMUM WAGE.

IT WAS THREE 35.

MY FIRST JOB I MADE $3, 35 CENTS AN HOUR, HOPEFULLY, BUT 37 STAY THERE.

HOPEFULLY YOU SAID EXPERIENCED TO GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER JOB.

YOU SAT EXPERIENCING A LITTLE BIT BETTER JOB.

AND SO PART OF WHAT WE DID WAS TRY TO HELP OUR CLIENTS AND OUR CITIZENS UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS THE PROGRESSION THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

AND WE SURROUND YOU WITH SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.

WE HELP PAY FOR DAYCARE.

THAT'S THE BIG DEAL.

THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU HAVE A MINIMUM WAGE JOB AND YOU'VE GOT KIDS, YOU CAN'T PAY DAYCARE AND WORK BECAUSE YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT.

YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH HOURS.

YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH PAY.

SO A LOT OF THOSE WOMEN HAVE TO STAY HOME BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER TO STAY HOME THE DOES TO WORK.

SO DAYCARE'S ONE OF OUR BIGGEST SUPPORTS THAT WE DO FOR THE WOMEN THAT ARE ON PUBLIC ASSISTANCE SO THAT WE CAN, THEY CAN GET THOSE YEARS.

AND THAT EXPERIENCE IN, YOU KNOW, BACK IN THE DAY, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WELFARE TO WORK, I WAS SEEING WOMEN WHO HAD NEVER SEEN ANYBODY IN THEIR HOUSEHOLD GO TO WORK.

THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION.

THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO DRESS.

THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO BEHAVE.

THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT PUNCTUALITY WAS.

WELL, WE'VE COME A LONG WAY SINCE THEN, BUT THAT WAS WHAT I WAS DEALING WITH IN THE SEVENTIES AND THE EIGHTIES, UH, WHEN, WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED THESE PROGRAMS. NOW, YOU KNOW, WE, WE GET PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOT GOTTEN THAT GENERATIONAL THINKING ABOUT PUBLIC ASSISTANCE AND IT'S TIME LIMITED.

THE MOST YOU CAN GET IS 60 MONTHS FOR YOUR ENTIRE LIFETIME.

AND IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER CHILD WHILE YOU'RE ON PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, THAT CHILD IS NEVER ELIGIBLE FOR BENEFITS.

SO THEY PUT A LOT OF THINGS IN PLACE TO KEEP IT FROM BEING JUST GENERATION AFTER JAY.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR INTERESTS.

VERY MUCH.

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MS. COLORS.

I THOUGHT ABOUT YOU YESTERDAY WHEN I WAS ON THE RIVER TUBING FOR MY VERY FIRST TIME EVER.

AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, I HAVE BRUISES AT SOME VERY UNUSUAL PLACES.

DID YOU COME BY TO THE BRIDGE IN BENTONVILLE? YES.

THEN YOU CAME BY MY HOUSE.

OH, IT WAS EXCITING WITH MY GRANDCHILDREN.

VERY EXCITED, A BEAUTIFUL WEEKEND TO BE ON IT AND THE RIVER COOPERATED BY GETTING TO A SAFE LEVEL THERE.

GREAT.

AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OH, SHE'S BEEN WAITING FOR SO

[B. Discussion – Election 2020 Preparations – Carol Tobin/Tim Grant/Assura]

LONG.

UM, ELECTION 2020 FOR PREPARATIONS.

THANK YOU FOR WAITING.

BLESS YOU.

I TRIED CAROL IT'S.

IT'S BEEN A LONG WEEK.

IT'S GOING TO GET LONGER, BUT YOU RECALL, AND, AND, UH, AUGUST YOU ALL VOTED TO, UH, WE HAVE THE MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR CYBER SECURITY THAT THE STATE, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ENACTED AND THE STATE HAD TO WRITE A PLAN.

AND PART OF THAT PLAN WAS US DO A SELF ASSESSMENT.

AND WITH THAT, WE, UH, WE HAD THE HELP OF TIM GRANT AND HE DECIDED THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ALL OF THE RESOURCES TO PUT IN PLACE TO ACTUALLY, UH, MEET THE STANDARDS THAT WERE REQUIRED WITH THE MINIMUM STANDARDS.

AND THEREFORE, UH, IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT WE GET OUTSOURCED TO A, TO A COMPANY THAT, THAT COULD PROVIDE SOME OF THE STANDARDS THAT WE NEED TO MEET.

SO YOU ALL ASKED THAT WE INVITE THE COMPANY UH IT'S, WHICH IS A SHURA.

AND IT'S MY PLEASURE TO SAY THAT TONIGHT, UM, THAT, UM, THEIR CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER HAS HERE WITH US, KAREN COLE, AND SHE'S GOING TO KIND OF EXPLAIN WHAT THEIR COMPANY'S GOING TO DO FOR US.

THAT'S COLD YOU.

UM, THIS IS LIKE GOING TO THE OSCARS FOR MAY I WITH THE PANDEMIC.

I DON'T THINK I'VE BEEN OUT OF THE HENRICO AREA IN LIKE SIX MONTHS.

SO THIS IS VERY EXCITING.

THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME THIS EVENING.

I'M CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THREE PAGES OF DOCUMENTATION, BUT I DID WANT PROVIDE YOU SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION, UH, CYBERSECURITY.

THAT'S A PRETTY, UH, CHARGED SUBJECT.

AS WE'VE MOVED FORWARD WITH THIS CONTRACT IS THAT THIS US, HE DOES RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF CYBER AND THAT THIS BECOMES A EFFORT THAT SUPPORTS EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO, AND IT TIES TO YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

AND, UM, SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS EVENING IS REALLY, UH, WHERE WE ARE WITH ELECTIONS, WHERE WE'RE GOING AND SORT OF SOME OF THE TOUCH POINTS INTO THE OVERALL COUNTY AS A WHOLE.

SO WITH RESPECT TO OUR UPCOMING ELECTION, UM, IT IS QUITE A TARGET FOR THREAT ACTORS.

AND OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE FROM FOREIGN AGENTS FROM RUSSIA, CHINA, AND IRAN.

AND LAST WEEK WE SAW SOME, UH, NEW ACTORS THAT WE HAD NOT SEEN WITH CUBA AND NORTH KOREA AND SAUDI ARABIA.

SO THAT THOSE TYPES OF ATTACKS ON ELECTION, SOME PEOPLE THINK, OKAY, WELL THAT MIGHT BE FOR LARGER LOCALITIES.

NO, UM, A HUNDRED YEARS AGO, I THINK WHEN I STARTED OUT IN CYBER SECURITY, IT WAS VERY MUCH, YOU KNOW, THE LARGER TARGETS RIGHT NOW, IT'S INDISCRIMINATE.

AND SO LOCALITIES ARE A RICH TARGET, NOT JUST FROM WHERE ELECTIONS ARE EXECUTED, BUT THE TREASURE TROVE OF CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION THAT IS MAINTAINED AT THE LOCALITY FROM ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT.

SO WHEN I'M WORKING, UH, WITH OUR CLIENTS, WE'RE STARTING OUT WITH ELECTION PROTECTION BECAUSE WE WANT TO DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE READY, UM, AND PROTECTED IN PREPARATION FOR THIS ELECTION.

THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT YOU DON'T ALREADY HAVE CYBER SECURITY PROTECTIONS IN PLACE, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT AS BOARD MEMBERS THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE CYBER SECURITY IS A MOVING TARGET.

AND IT'S ALWAYS AT THE FOREFRONT OF LEADERSHIP BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, CYBER SECURITY IS NOT A TECHNOLOGY ISSUE.

CYBER SECURITY IS A PEOPLE ISSUE.

MAJORITY OF DATA BREACHES HAPPEN BECAUSE OF HUMAN BEHAVIOR, NOT BECAUSE OF TECHNOLOGY.

SO AS WE START WITH CAROL AND HER TEAM, WE WILL BE WORKING IN TWO DIFFERENT AREAS.

ONE WILL BE IN WHAT WE CALL THE TECHNOLOGY SPACE, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING A LOOK AND CONTINUING TO LOCK DOWN THE POLL BOOKS, EMAILS, THINGS LIKE THAT, TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE SHORED UP BEFORE THE ELECTION, BUT ALSO WHAT WE CALL THEM, THE GOVERNANCE RISK AND COMPLIANCE SIDE, WHICH IS THAT PROGRAM MANAGEMENT PIECE, RIGHT? SO THAT MANAGEMENT OF CYBER SECURITY FROM THE ELECTION STANDPOINT, HOWEVER, THIS IS A STARTING POINT.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT, UM, I'M EXCITED TO SEE, AND I THINK MR. DALEY,

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SO NOW, AS EARLY AS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BROADBAND, RIGHT, AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAJOR INITIATIVES AND SWAPPING OUT SYSTEMS AND NEW CAPABILITIES, WELL, CYBER SECURITY IS A PIECE OF THAT BECAUSE IN EVERY, IN EVERY MAJOR TECHNOLOGICAL INITIATIVE, THERE'S ALSO PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE THREATENING TO TAKE THAT AWAY.

SO THAT'S A BALANCE OUT THERE, BUT WE ARE GOING TO START OFF WITH ELECTIONS, DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TALK ABOUT THE BIGGER PICTURE.

ONE OF THE THINGS AS WE START, WE WILL BE BUILDING OUT A ROADMAP AND THAT ROADMAP WILL BE THE ONE TO YEAR THREE, ONE TO THREE YEAR PLAN FOR ELECTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY ARE WE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, BUT THAT IT'S RIGHT SIZE FOR HER DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT DOES YOU NO GOOD.

I COULD PUT, YOU KNOW, MY FOLKS CAN PUT A BEAUTIFUL PLAN IN PLACE THAT WILL SIT THERE AND GROW DUST, AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE OF ANY VALUE TO YOU.

SO THE LAST THING THAT I'D LIKE TO LEAVE YOU WITH, UH, AND, AND I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE IS, UM, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THOUGHTS.

ONE, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE AN IT ISSUE, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE AN OVERALL PEOPLE ISSUE.

AND THAT STARTS FROM THE HIGHEST FORM OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH MEANS YOU ALL.

AND SO YOU WILL SEE US AGAIN, AND WE WILL BRING YOU A POLICY AND WE WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS.

AND WE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT, UH, THE SUPPORT THAT WE NEED AND MOVING FORWARD AND PROTECTING, NOT JUST STARTING WITH ELECTIONS, BUT ANY ADDITIONAL THREATS THAT MAY BE IDENTIFIED FOR THE COUNTY OR THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU ALL ARE SHARING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DATA AND RESOURCES.

YOU ALL DESERVE TO BE PROTECTED.

YOUR CITIZENS AND STAKEHOLDERS DESERVE TO BE PROTECTED.

SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, I JUST PERSONALLY WANTED TO COME TODAY A ONE, A TWO FIRST AND FOREMOST, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ASSURANCE TO HELP YOU ALL WITH THIS INITIATIVE.

UM, AND IT ALSO HELPS TO GET OUT OF THE GREATER RICHMOND AREA ONCE EVERY SIX MONTHS.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT.

I KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY FOR YOU ALL.

UH, BUT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU, I HAVE QUESTIONS.

SO WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE NOT SHOWING UP MORE THAN IT, BUT YOU'RE SHOWING UP MORE OF THE PEOPLE.

SO IT IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO PUT INTO PLACE PROTOCOLS AND PROTECTIONS THAT WHEN SOMEBODY GETS UP AND LEAVES THEIR DESK, THAT THEY MAKE SURE THAT THEIR COMPUTER IS, YOU KNOW, BACK INTO PASSWORD MODE.

WE ACTUALLY DO BOTH, RIGHT.

IT WILL BE THE TECHNOLOGY, BUT IT WILL ALSO BE LIKE YOU SAID, THOSE MANAGEMENT CONTROLS OR WHAT WE CALL MANAGEMENT CONTROLS THAT ARE RULES ABOUT HOW YOU OPERATE.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE CONTRACTED FOR ELECTIONS, BUT THERE'S MANY THINGS THAT WE'LL BE PUTTING IN PLACE THAT CAN BE UTILIZED FOR THE COUNTY.

BUT YES, IT IS A MARRIAGE OF BOTH TECHNICAL AND MANAGEMENT CONTROLS.

GO THROUGH A AUDIT ANNUALLY, AND I'M NOT SURE WHICH AUDITING FIRM THAT YOU USE, BUT GENERALLY MANY OF THE ONES THAT, UM, OPERATE WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT CERTAIN CYBER CONTROLS NOW AS PART OF THEIR OVERALL COMPREHENSIVE, UM, ANNUAL AUDIT.

SO YOU'RE, ARE YOU WRITING POLICIES LIKE, LIKE, LIKE AN ISSO WOULD DO OR RISK MANAGEMENT FRAMEWORK THAT KIND OF, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING? I'M GOING TO GET TEARY BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING, YOU'RE SAYING WORDS THAT ARE REALLY GOOD.

THIS THERE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ISO THE INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS ORGANIZATION.

AND, UM, YEAH.

SO THE WAY THAT THE COMMONWEALTH WORKS IS THE, THE STANDARDS THAT THEY ARE PUSHING DOWN ARE BASED UPON A COMPLIMENTARY FRAMEWORK CALLED THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF STANDARDS AND TECHNOLOGY NIST NIST 800 DASH 53.

SO YOU ALL WILL BE COMPLIANT WITH THAT.

THOSE CONTROLS WILL BE COMPLIANT.

PART OF THOSE ARE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.

PART OF THOSE ARE SUPPORTING PLANS.

ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE WILL WORK ON WILL BE, WILL BE, WILL BE WHAT'S CALLED THE CYBERSECURITY INCIDENT RESPONSE PLAN.

AND THEN WITH THAT, YOU'LL HAVE SYSTEM AND YOU'LL HAVE RISK ASSESSMENTS.

AND SOME OF THOSE RISKS WE'RE GOING TO COME AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT TO IN PRIVATE SESSION, SORRY, YOU KNOW, BUT, UM, AND YOU'LL MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THOSE.

UH, BUT THEN ALSO DISASTER RECOVERY PLANS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, UH, YEAH, SO IT'S A NUMBER OF THINGS.

AND IN FACT, UM, THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T WANT TO BORE YOU ALL, BUT, UH, BUT IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN WHAT COMES WITH THIS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS THE PLANS AND PROGRAMS THAT ARE BEING PUT IN PLACE, HOW THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF HOUSE BILL 2178, AND THEN THE TECHNOLOGY IN PLACE.

I WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT TO YOU FOR REFERENCE, ARE YOU GOING TO BE DOING CERTIFICATION AND ACCREDITATION KINDS OF THINGS? IS THAT YOUR, ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO BE DOING, SEE THE DEPARTMENT OF ELECTIONS IN EFFECT, MISS DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT, OKAY.

HOWEVER, YOU ALL, AS A LOCALITY,

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AND SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN YES, THEY WILL HIT SOME OF THOSE NIST BASED CONTROLS, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO HAVE AN ANNUAL CERTIFICATION UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO THAT ROUTE, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY NOT NECESSARY.

ABSOLUTELY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE ONE, IF YOU WILL, MAYBE FROM MS. TOBIN, BUT YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS WE SEEM TO HAVE GONE THROUGH SOME, A LOT OF DIFFERENT MACHINES, VOTING MACHINES.

DO WE HAVE IT DOWN NOW, OR THEY, THAT WE'VE CONFIDENT THAT THE RIGHT VOTE GETS GOES WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO AND WITH THE BACKUP OF THE VOTE AND ACTUALLY GOING INTO A MACHINE TO BE COUNTED WITH IT.

ARE WE DOWN TO THE FINAL MACHINE NOW? YEAH.

SO WE ALWAYS HAD THAT PAPER BAG.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT I THINK WE'RE OKAY.

WE'D HAVE MORE FAMILY THERE.

THAT'S ALL I HEAR.

WELL, I'M NOT ASKING COMPUTER QUESTIONS BECAUSE I AM NOT TECHNOLOGY SAVVY.

I BOW TO HER EXPERTISE AND SHE WILL GET ME THERE.

UM, BUT AS FAR AS YOUR NEEDS, I KNOW, UM, DR.

DALEY INCREASED YOUR STAFF, WHICH I'M GRATEFUL FOR.

I KNOW YOU ARE, BUT TEMPORARY MICROPHONE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT LIMITED FOR THE KNEES.

WE HAVE, WE ARE SEEING SUCH A HISTORICAL NUMBERS NOW THAT WE HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED BEFORE BECAUSE OF THE NO EXCUSES.

AND COVID, UH, SO WE ARE, UH, EXPERIENCING, UM, NUMBERS THAT WE'VE NOT SEEN IN ANY OTHER ELECTION, WHICH IS, I'M GLAD TO SEE PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO VOTE.

UH, BUT IT DOES TAKE PEOPLE TO, UM, UM, UH, IMPLEMENT THAT AND, AND WORK THAT AND GET THE BALLOTS OUT AND ALL THAT.

SO WE WILL HAVE SOME VOLUNTEERS THAT HELP THEIR OFFICERS.

YES, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE TO BE SWORN TO DO WHAT WE DO.

AND SO THE REASON I REACH OUT TO OUR OFFICERS, THEY'RE ALREADY SWORN OFFICERS AND THEY THEY'LL VOLUNTEER TO COME IN AND, AND HELP WITH THAT.

THAT WAS, THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION.

WHEN YOU SAY YOU HAVE A HISTORICAL NUMBERS, ARE THOSE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING ABSENTEE REQUEST, ABSENTEE BALLOT REQUESTS FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO VOTE IN PERSON? YES.

AND WE HAVE LIKE 10 DAYS TO COME UP TO SPEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE READY.

WE ARE ALREADY, UM, WE, BECAUSE THERE WAS A LAWSUIT, UH, WE HAD A BALLOT CHANGE.

UH, LAST THURSDAY, THE ORDER CAME THROUGH, WE HAD A BALLOT CHANGE.

SO I HAD GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN.

SO IT MEANT A DELAY IN OUR GETTING OUR BOUTS AS EARLY AS WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BECAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY COULDN'T START PRINTING UNTIL ALL OF THAT WAS, UH, APPROVED AND, AND APPROVED BY BOTH THE COUNTY AND THE STATE, NOT JUST WARREN COUNTY, ALL OF THE STATE.

SO THE PRINTERS ARE EAGERLY, YOU KNOW, WORKING VERY HARD AROUND THE CLOCK TO GET OUR BOUTS TO US, WHICH WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED YET.

BUT ONCE WE DO THAT, THEN THE, THE, THE, UM, PRESSURE WILL BE ON TO GET EVERYTHING DONE THAT WE NEED TO DO, WHICH MEANS A LOT OF LONG NIGHTS, LONG WEEKENDS, UH, VERY LONG HOURS AND SOMETIMES NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THERE.

AND OF COURSE THEY ADDED EXTRA THINGS TO THE, YOU KNOW, THIS PAST YEAR BECAUSE OF THE, BECAUSE OF COVID AND THE, UM, YOU KNOW, A FEDERAL ELECTION AND THE PRESIDENTIAL, UH, LIKE THE RE POSTAGE ON THE RETURN ENVELOPES, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, WHICH, UH, ADDS TO THE WORKLOAD BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE POSTMARKED.

UM, SO WE HAD TO ACTUALLY GET STAMPS FOR THAT.

UH, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO ON BEHIND THE SCENES THAT SOME OF THE NEW LAWS THAT HAVE COME OUT THAT, UH, THEY DON'T KNOW HOW THEY, HOW THEY GO ABOUT IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THE THINGS.

SO IT DOES CREATE A LOT OF VOLUME FOR THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO OVERSEE AND MAKE SURE IT GETS DONE AND MAKE SURE WE CAN IMPLEMENT ALL THOSE LAWS THAT, THAT TAKE EFFECT.

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE SOMEONE THAT IF THEY WANT TO HELP BY VOLUNTEERING TO GET SWORN IN TO, WELL, THEY HAVE TO FIRST BE APPOINTED BY THE ELECTORAL BOARD.

AND THAT'S USUALLY PRETTY EASY PROCESS THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH, BUT THEN THEY HAVE TO DO LIKE, UH, THEY HAVE TO DO AN ACCEPTANCE LETTER.

WE SEND OUT LETTERS THAT

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THEY'VE BEEN APPOINTED.

THEY HAVE DO AN ACCEPTANCE LETTER, THEN THEY HAVE TO TAKE THEIR OATH AND THEN THERE'S TRAINING INVOLVED.

SO WE TRY TO DO THAT CLOSER TO THE ELECTION SO THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT FAMILIAR TRAINING AND THEY CAN, THEY DON'T FORGET IT BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY CAN, YOU KNOW, USE THAT TRAINING.

SO, SO IF SOMEONE WANTED TO VOLUNTEER, THEY NEED TO GET IN THAT PROCESS.

AND WE DO HAVE SOME VOLUNTEERS COMING OUT.

AND WE'RE IN THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

SO IF YOU KNOW, ANYONE CERTAINLY SEND THEM OUR WAY.

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.

DO YOU HAVE TO DRIVE BACK TO ENRICO TONIGHT? I DO.

OH MY GOODNESS.

I HAVE BOOKS ON TAPE, SAFE, SAFE TRAVELS TO YOU.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

I LOOK FOR THE TALKING WITH YOU ALL IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPROPRIATION OR EUROPE? YEAH.

[C. Discussion – Election Money Appropriation – Carol Tobin/Ed Daley]

WELL, ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT SOME OF THE, UM, THE 2020 ELECTION, AND OF COURSE, UNFORTUNATELY, COVID WAS THAT THERE WAS A GRANT FOR, UM, THROUGH THE HAVA HELP AMERICA VOTE, UH, FOR CA UH, CARE FUNDS.

AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN, UM, I GUESS THROUGH THE STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS, THEY WERE PASSING DOWN CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CARE FUNDS FOR US TO USE.

UM, SO THEY HAVE, UM, GIVEN A TOTAL OF $58,965 TO WARREN COUNTY, OF COURSE IT HAS TO BE USED.

IT HAS TO BE USED FOR COVID OR ITEMS FOR THE 20, 20 FEDERAL ELECTION.

AND IT HAS TO BE EXPENDED BY DECEMBER, OR IT WOULD GO BACK TO THEM PRETTY MUCH LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER CARE ACTS OR, BUT WE KIND OF ESTABLISHED A GENERAL USAGE OF SOME OF THE MONEY, WHAT IT WOULD GO FOR, UM, WOULD BE, UH, UH, COMPUTERS, WHICH WE WOULD NEED NEW LAPTOPS AND THINGS FOR THE ELECTRONIC POLE, BOOKS, SUPPLIES, POSTAGE, AND STAFF.

THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT THEY, THEY WOULD ALLOW US TO USE THE FUNDS FOR.

UH, ONE THING THAT, UM, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THOUGH, IS EVEN THOUGH I'VE SPECIFIED CERTAIN AMOUNT IN THE EARLY STAGES IS, UM, AUTHORIZATION THAT IF I NEEDED TO MOVE THE MONEY FROM ONE, ONE AREA TO ANOTHER, THAT WOULD BE OKAY.

UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE CARES ACT IS ABOUT FOR US.

AND, UM, I GUESS WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE SOME FUNDING COME DOWN FROM SOME OF THE LEGISLATION AND OF COURSE, WITH COVID DO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE MORE PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND WE DO DO THAT FOR OUR WORKERS, MR. DAILY, DO, DO WE NEED TO DO ANY ACTION FOR THIS APPROPRIATION OR, OR JUST NEXT WEEK, NEXT WEEK? OKAY.

ON YOUR AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK TO APPROVE THE 58 WE'VE, UH, WE'VE SPENT A GOOD PORTION OF IT WITH PITNEY BOWLES ALREADY, BUT, UM, AND THE COMPUTERS, I THINK THEY WERE WINDOWS.

IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH.

I'VE HAD WINDOWS SEVEN COMPUTERS REPLACING ALL OF THOSE AND GETTING SOME THINGS YOU'LL JUST APPROVE THE APPROPRIATION NEXT WEEK.

GOOD TO GO HOME AND GOING WEST.

ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL? I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU.

WONDERFUL JOB.

IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED, AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.

AND YOU BE CAREFUL GOING HOME TONIGHT TOO.

NUMBER F NOW WOULD BE THE DISCUSSION ON THE ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND REORDERING SECTION ONE 72 DASH TWO OR WARREN COUNTY CODE READ DESIGNATED PRIVATE ROADS IN LINDEN HEIGHTS, SUBDIVISION AS HALLWAYS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES.

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[D. Discussion – Ordinance to Amend and Re-Ordain Section 172-2 of the Warren County Code re: Designating Private Roads in the Linden Heights Subdivision as Highways for Law Enforcement Purposes – Caitlin Jordan]

UH, MRS. JORDAN, YOU GOOD EVENING MR. CHAIRMAN AND THE BOARD.

UM, SO I WOULD ASK IF WE COULD, MY HOPE TODAY IS TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU HAD AT THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, I THINK THEY WERE CAUSED BY SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT, UH, VARIOUS RESIDENTS ASKED, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO START IT JUST LOOKING AT WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED TO AMEND THIS, THE, UM, CODE SECTION, AND YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED IT IN YOUR PACKET.

SO RIGHT NOW, THE WAY CODE SECTION ONE 72 DASH TWO READS IS THAT ALL THE POTTED ROADS

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AND STREETS LOCATED IN SHADOW OF FARMS, SUBDIVISION AS SHOWN ON THE FOLLOWING WARREN COUNTY TAX MAPS NOW APOLOGIZE.

IT'S A PARAGRAPH B UM, ELIZABETH VARIOUS TAX MAP NUMBERS, BUT THEN IT HAS 23 C SHEETS, ONE THROUGH NINE.

SO THIS ORDINANCE WASN'T ACTED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BACK IN 1980.

AND AT THAT TIME THERE WAS ONLY SHENANDOAH FARMS, LYNDON HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION DID NOT EXIST AT THAT TIME.

SO THE WAY OUR CODE SECTION CURRENTLY READS IS AN ACCURATE, BECAUSE IT LISTS OUT THE PLOTTED ROADS FOR ALL OF THE PROPERTIES ON TAX MAP 23.

SEE, WELL, THERE'S A GOOD PORTION OF PROPERTIES.

I BELIEVE IT'S APPROXIMATELY 94 PROPERTIES THAT HAVE NOW SPLIT OFF FROM SHANDO FARMS AND THERE THE LINDEN HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION.

SO ON THE NEXT, UM, YOU SHOULD HAVE A MAP THAT SHOWS YOU HOW CLOSELY THIS, THE LINEN HEIGHT SUBDIVISION, AND IT SHOWS YOU ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE PART OF THAT SUBDIVISION AND ALL THE PROPERTIES.

THERE ARE PART OF TAX MAP, 23 C AND ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE LISTED ON SHEETS TWO AND SHEETS, FOUR OF TAX ABOUT 23 C.

SO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS, IF YOU GO BACK TO THIS PAGE IS TO ALL ON THE CLIP HERE.

IT'S JUST TO CORRECT THE SHEETS FOR TAX ABOUT 23, SAYING THAT ARE ACTUALLY SHENANDOAH FARMS. AND THEN TO, TO PARSE OUT LYNDON HEIGHT, SUBDIVISION INTO LIST TAX ABOUT 23, SEE SHEETS TWO AND FOUR AS LINDEN HEIGHT SUBDIVISION.

THIS WILL ALLOW ENFORCEMENT.

UM, IT IS MORE CLEAR IS SYNC AS CLEAR TO LAW ENFORCEMENT ABOUT WHAT ROADS ARE DESIGNATED AS HIGHWAYS.

AND SO CURRENTLY I'M IN SPEAKING WITH THE SHARE, WE'VE BEEN HERE ALL EVENING, UM, BUT HAS NOW STEPPED OUT.

MY HOPE IS THAT HE COULD PROVIDE CLARIFICATION FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE ABOUT WHAT THIS EXACTLY MEANS, BUT UNTIL HE RETURNS, I WILL, UM, I WILL TRY MY BEST TO CLARIFY.

SO WHAT DOES, WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT CURRENTLY THERE ARE CERTAIN CODE SECTIONS WITHIN THE STATE CODE, UM, REGARDING MOTOR VEHICLES THAT THEY CAN NOT WRITE TICKETS FOR, FOR VIOLATIONS, IF THEY OCCUR ON PRIVATE ROADS.

SO ONE EXAMPLE HE DID, HE GAVE ME WAS SPEEDING.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE WAS, UM, DRIVING, UM, LIKE GOLF CARTS OR ATV, THAT SORT OF THING.

IF THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY IS CONDUCTED ON A PRIVATE ROAD, THEN THERE'S NOTHING HE CAN DO.

BUT WITH THESE ROADS, IF THEY ARE DESIGNATED AS PUBLIC HIGHWAYS, THEN HE CAN USE, HE CAN WRITE CERTAIN TICKETS TO IN, HE CAN ENFORCE SPEED LIMITS, HE CAN ENFORCE, UM, YOU KNOW, HE CAN PREVENT A ATVS AND THAT SORT OF THING, DRIVING UP THE ROAD.

SO, AND, UM, SO THEY'RE STILL CONSIDERED CAITLIN.

THIS IS STILL CONSIDERED PRIVATE ROADS THAT DOESN'T CHANGE.

IT JUST GIVES LAW ENFORCEMENT THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE THE LAW EXACTLY ON THE THAT'S.

THE ONLY DESIGNATION ONLY DOES A NATION IS THAT THESE PRIVATE ROADS, OUR PA OUR HIGHWAYS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES.

NOW THE ROADS WITHIN LYNDON HEIGHTS THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE.

THEY ARE RIGHT OF WAY.

SO TECHNICALLY THEY ARE AVAILABLE.

THE PUBLIC HAS ACCESS TO THEM BECAUSE THERE ARE 50 FOOT, RIGHT, RIGHT AWAY THROUGHOUT THE LINDEN HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION.

UM, BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF AMENDING ONE 72 DASH TWO, IT WOULD BE JUST A DESIGNATION FOR THAT PURPOSE.

UM, HOPEFULLY, UH, BELIEVE THAT ANSWERS A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP.

I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OR TO PROVIDE FURTHER CLARIFICATION.

IF I CAN.

I UNDERSTOOD THAT BECAUSE I HEARD THE SAME THING.

I THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR WHEN I WAS SITTING OUT THERE AT A MEETING, UM, THAT IT HAD TO BE, I WANT TO SAY IT WASN'T SHANDRA FARMS, OR ONCE SHANDRA SHORES, ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE THEY DID THE SAME THING, AND IT WAS ARTICULATED AS TO WHAT IT MEANT.

I COULDN'T ARTICULATE IT LAST TIME TO SAVE ME, BUT THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE NOT THERE TONIGHT.

AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL LOOK AT THIS AND UNDERSTAND IT BETTER THAT WE'RE SEEING IT AS GOVERNMENT OVERREACH.

AND THE REASON I ASKED WHERE TO BE CLARIFIED BETTER WAS BECAUSE OF THAT.

UM, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT IT REALLY IS GONNA MAKE A LOT OF DIFFERENCE TO THEM, BUT I FELT LIKE WE

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NEEDED TO, TO MAKE THE EFFORT TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAR TO THEM.

I DO THINK IT'S A MISCHARACTERIZATION TO SAY IT PROVIDES FOR GOVERNMENT OVERREACH BECAUSE LAW ENFORCEMENT, EVEN ON PRIVATE ROADS, IF THEY GET CALLED, THEY CAN GO OUT THERE.

UM, WHAT IT IS GOING TO PROVIDE IS IT IS GOING TO PROVIDE LAW ENFORCEMENT, I GUESS, GET THEM MORE TOOLS IN THEIR TOOL BELT, DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCE, THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH AN ATV DRIVER FLYING UP AND DOWN THE ROADS, THEN LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN ACTUALLY INF FORCE, UM, OR AT LEAST ENFORCE HIGHWAY LAWS FOR THE BENEFIT OF SAFETY TO PROVIDE, UM, ADDITIONAL SAFETY FOR THE RESIDENTS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

THE ONLY THING THAT WE CAN REALLY ENFORCE IS RECKLESS DRIVING DUI, DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF DRUGS OR SO FORTH, UM, OR ANY MISDEMEANOR CLASS, ONE MISDEMEANOR OR FELONY CHARGES.

WE CAN'T REALLY ENFORCE 46 TWO, WHICH IS THE TRAFFIC LAWS.

WE GET CALLED CONSTANTLY UP IN THAT AREA.

AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY ATVS, GOLF CARTS, DIRT BIKES, DRIVING, RIDING RECKLESSLY ON THESE ROADS, IF THEY ARE NOT, IF THEY ARE PRIVATE PROPERTY, NO DIFFERENT THAN MARY SHADY LANE.

AND SOME OTHERS, NOT A SINGLE THING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT, ESPECIALLY IF WE DIDN'T SEE IT.

SO IF WE SEE IT, THEN WE CAN ENFORCE IT.

OBVIOUSLY.

UM, WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE FAIL TO UNDERSTAND IS THEY HAVE EVERYBODY IN THIS COUNTY HAS THE SAME AUTHORITY AS I HAVE.

THEY CAN WALK RIGHT TO A MAGISTRATE, SWEAR OUT A WARRANT AND SO FORTH.

UM, SO REALLY, AND TRULY IT DOESN'T DO A LOT OF GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT.

IT REALLY JUST HELPS THE COMMUNITIES CAUSE WE'RE STILL PATROLLING.

WE HAVE SECTORS, WE'RE ENFORCING OUR SECTORS.

AND OBVIOUSLY AS WE CAN SEE IT, OUR SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES ARE ALL OVER THE COUNTY AND THEY ARE VISIBLE MORE SO THAN EVER.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE MORE SO THAN EVER AS WE CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD TOWARDS OUR OTHER THINGS, BUT COULD IT HELP US COULD, BUT IT ALSO COULD HELP THE COMMUNITIES WE COULD ACTUALLY, FOR THE SPEEDING AND THE RACING, WE COULD ACTUALLY SET UP SPEED, TRAPS, DMV, GRANTS, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH TO HELP ENFORCE THE RECKLESS DRIVING AND THE, UH, RADIC BEHAVIOR ON OUR ROADWAYS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME ON THAT ONE AND COMING OUT.

SO IF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION PUT UP A SPEED LIMIT, YOU CANNOT ENFORCE THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

BUT IF THEY WERE DRIVING RECKLESSLY, YOU COULD ENFORCE THAT, CORRECT.

IF THE OWNER SIGNS THAT REALLY, THAT WE CAN ENFORCE THAT TO BE COUNTY OR STATE APPROVED SIGNS, RIGHT.

SO PRIVATE PROPERTY AREAS, WE CAN'T ENFORCE THAT STUFF.

SO IMPROPER GRABBING, YOU COULD, YOU COULD ENFORCE THAT.

GREG, I'D LOVE TO PUT A 15 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT ON MY ROAD, BUT I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ENFORCE IT.

AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT, UM, RECKLESS DRIVING, THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT GO INVOLVED WITH RECKLESS DRIVING, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN JUST THE, THE PERSON DRIVING THE CARS IN DANGER, THE, YOU KNOW, SURROUNDING BYSTANDERS PROPERTY OR SO FORTH.

SO IT SAYS IT'S HARD CHARGE THE KID UNLESS YOU ACTUALLY WITNESSED IT.

SO IF SOMEONE WAS IN DRIVING INTOXICATED, YOU COULD ENFORCE CORRECT.

NOW IF I PULL THE PRIVATE PROPERTY ANYWAY, WAS THAT YOU CAN DO THAT WITHOUT THIS CORRECT.

AND THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M, THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE COULD ENFORCE FOR FOUR WHEELERS AND ATVS AND SO FORTH.

I'M GOING TO KEEP MY PERSONAL OPINION TO MYSELF BECAUSE I LOST THAT WHEN I GOT ELECTED.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THERE'S REASON SOME OF US MOVE OUT HERE AND JUST TO GET OUT OF THE CITY LIFE.

UM, BUT OUR, THE WAY WE ENFORCE THE LAWS IN WARREN COUNTY IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE BY MAKING IT THIS A SANITARY DISTRICT, NOT A SAN SYSTEM.

IT'S JUST NOT, WE'RE STILL GOING TO ENFORCE AND TRY TO PROTECT EVERY INDIVIDUAL IN THIS COUNTY TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.

IS COME UP AND SAY, HEY, EXCHANGE INFORMATION, GET INSURANCE HELP YOU OUT.

THE ONE ADVANTAGE BE IF, SAY I WAS DRIVING RECKLESSLY, UM, AND RAN INTO YOUR FENCE, TORE IT UP.

THAT IS A DIFFERENCE NOW THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE IT DOES COME IN A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

IF IT HAPPENS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, YOU HAVE AN ACCIDENT.

OUR DEPUTIES ARE ONLY THING WE'RE GOING TO DO

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MAYBE EVEN WRITE A REPORT ON IT.

TYPICALLY WE DON'T NEED TO.

UM, BUT AS YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED, BUT OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE NOW DOES A LOT MORE ACCIDENTS RESPONDS TO MORE ACCIDENTS IN THE COUNTY.

INSTEAD OF CALLING THE STATE POLICE THAT WAY WE CAN PROVIDE A FASTER AND BETTER SERVICE FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

UM, THERE'S AN ACCIDENT YOU CALL AND IT IS ON OUR HIGHWAYS.

THEN FR 300 IS DONE, HAS TO BE TURNED OVER TO THE STATE IF IT'S OVER $1,500 DAMAGE.

AND THEN, UM, IT ACTUALLY GETS REPORTED.

BUT IF IT WAS PRIVATE PROPERTY, TWO PEOPLE HIT ON MARY SHADY LANE, WHICH IS PRIVATE PROPERTY, UH, EXCHANGE INFORMATION AND GO ON UNLESS THERE WAS RECKLESS DRIVING INVOLVED OR DUI.

THAT THAT'S BASICALLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AT ALL.

IT WOULD PROVIDE A BETTER SERVICE FOR THE PEOPLE I THINK, BUT IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHICH WAY YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT.

UM, BUT I WOULD SAY WHETHER YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE REGARDING LYNDON HEIGHTS, THE WAY OUR CODE SECTION CURRENTLY IS WRITTEN IS INCORRECT.

AND SO I WOULD SAY WE WOULD AT LEAST NEED TO CLARIFY THE PROPERTY BETTER IN SHENANDOAH FARMS, JUST SINCE THIS ISSUE IS BEFORE THE BOARD.

NOW'S THE TIME TO, TO MAKE THAT CORRECTION, JUST TO INDICATE THAT THERE, TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WOMEN HEIGHTS HAS BEEN SEPARATED FROM SHENANDOAH FARMS. DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, GREAT.