Oct 13, 2020 Board of Supervisors Work Session

IS ANDREW HERE? NO, SIR.

SHE IS NOT SURE IS NOT.

THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SKIP TO, UM, THE DISCUSSION ON THE OVERVIEW FOR GENERAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

UM, SIR, WE WILL PUT THIS, THIS ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK, UNLESS SOMEBODY OBJECTS, UH, IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

JUST UH, NEW YEAR'S EVE.

I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.

UH, DOES ANYONE ELSE? NO, I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW COME THERE WAS SO MUCH MORE MATERIAL IN HER PACKET BESIDES THE CHANGE OF THAT DATE.

THERE'S STUFF ABOUT BORDERS, UH, THEIR, THEIR NUMBERING SYSTEM AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT MORE STUFF HERE THAN JUST ABOUT CHANGING THE DATE.

THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK HER ABOUT THAT, BUT THIS IS WHAT SHE ASKED FOR WAS THE DATE.

SO YOU SHOULDN'T BE BACK AND BE HERE NEXT WEEK, BUT THESE ARE ALL SHOWING YOU THAT DECEMBER 31ST, 2019 VOUCHERS AND SO FORTH, ALL JUST SHOW EVERYTHING WAS DONE LAST YEAR ON NEW YEAR'S EVE, BUT THE COURTS ARE CLOSED.

SO EVERYTHING HAS TO BE HELD ANYWAY THAT I EXPECT HER TO RETURN AND BE HERE NEXT WEEK.

UM, BRANDY, ARE YOU READY? WAIT, JUST ONE SECOND WHILE THEY GET THE TV AND THE PRESENTATION STARTED, THE INTENT BEHIND THESE PRESENTATIONS IS THAT YOU HAVE A REVIEW OF EACH DEPARTMENT BEFORE YOU GO INTO THE BUDGET AND HERE'S ANGIE.

UM, SO WE COULD, RANDY'S ALREADY STARTED WE'LL YEAH.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND JUMP TO YOU RIGHT AFTER.

I WOULD SAY SINCE THE TV WON'T TURN ON.

IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO HER, YOU'RE WELCOME TO SO MIKE AND I WILL PLAY WITH THIS FOR HER.

LIKE TO, ANGIE'S GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE WARREN COUNTY CIRCUIT COURT PROPOSED DECEMBER 30, FIRST, 2020 CLOSURE.

Y'ALL PLAY WITH THAT.

UH, ANGIE, IF YOU'D

[C. Discussion – Warren County Circuit Court Proposed December 31, 2020 Closure – Angie Moore]

UM, ANGIE THAT'S IN YOUR COURT.

NOW I BELIEVE THAT YOU ALL HAVE A PACKET THAT I PREPARED BASICALLY JUST OUTLINING THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE WHEN WE ARE OPEN ON DECEMBER 31ST, BASICALLY OES IS, ARE THE OFFICE OF THE EXECUTIVE SECRETARY IS OUR PROGRAMS PROVIDER.

THEY ARE CLOSED THAT DAY.

EVERY YEAR.

THAT IS

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A HOLIDAY FOR THEM.

THE DISTRICT COURTS ARE NOT OPEN.

WE ARE THE ONLY COURT THAT IS OPEN.

ACTUALLY, THERE WERE ONLY 14 COURTS IN THE STATE THAT WERE OPEN THIS PAST YEAR CREATES A PROBLEM FOR US.

WE HAVE TO BEG FOR SYSTEM ACCESS.

THERE IS NO HELP.

UH, THIS YEAR WAS A LITTLE MORE TROUBLESOME THAN NORMAL BECAUSE WE HAD RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM THEM ON THE 31ST SAYING THAT WE COULD ROLL OUR NUMBERS BACK CAUSE IT'S CREATES, UH, AN ACCOUNTING NIGHTMARE BECAUSE THE END OF BUSINESS MONTH IN BUSINESS, YOU'RE IN BUSINESSES ALL ON DECEMBER 30TH, WE RECEIVED A POLICY AND THE COROLLA NUMBERS BACK.

THAT'S GREAT.

LET'S DO THAT.

THAT'D BE EASIER FOR US TO SEPARATE OUR MANUAL BOOKKEEPING PRACTICES.

WELL, HOWEVER, THE CASE SIDE DIDN'T TALK TO THE FINANCIAL SIDE AND WE HAD CASES BEING PUT IN ON 2019 DATE AND RECEIPTS FOR THOSE ON 2020.

SO THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT SO WELL.

UH, JUST CREATE A LITTLE BIG NIGHTMARE AS YOU CAN SEE, I INCLUDED THE SYSTEMS AVAILABILITY, UM, THAT WE GET FROM OES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, EVERYTHING INDICATES MONTH IN A CALENDAR YEAR END PROCESSING WILL BE DONE THE EVENING OF MONDAY, DECEMBER 30TH.

THIS ONE STATED YOU COULD SEE OUR SYSTEMS ARE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE AT 11:00 AM.

SO FROM NINE TO 11, WE HAD, WE COULD DO NOTHING AT ALL.

AND THEN WE FINALLY KEPT HAMMERING AWAY AT THEM.

AND THEN IT WAS, WE'LL GET THEM TO YOU AS SOON AS WE CAN STILL NO SET TIME.

WE FINALLY, WE WHITTLED THEM DOWN TO 8:00 AM, WHICH THAT WORKED.

UM, BUT IT, AS YOU CAN SEE ALL THE EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE BACK AND FORTH WITH ME IN RICHMOND, YOU KNOW, I WAS THERE WELL PAST, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT SEVEN 15, SEVEN 30, MY LAST EMAIL BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM.

IT WAS A VERY LONG EVENING.

UM, THE OFFICE STAFF IS MORE THAN WILLING TO TAKE AN ANNUAL OF LEAVE.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING JUST TO HAVE IT.

UM, IT JUST BELIEVE ME.

IT JUST CREATES A HUGE THING FOR OUR OFFICE EVERY YEAR.

AND IT'S EVERY YEAR THAT THAT HAPPENS.

IT'S NOT JUST THIS PARTICULAR YEAR, JUST THIS WAS A LITTLE MORE AGGRAVATING, THE NORMAL, UM, BUT THAT, THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE ASKED AND WE WOULDN'T ASK THIS LIGHTLY AND WE DON'T.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE OTHER TIMES JUST BECAUSE OF DOCKETING REASONS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OPEN WHEN THE COUNTY OTHER COUNTY EMPLOYEES ARE ENJOYING A HOLIDAY OR A DAY OFF NOVEMBER 3RD COMING UP WILL BE ONE OF THOSE DAYS.

WE ARE, THAT'S NOW A HOLIDAY, A STATE HOLIDAY.

AND YOU KNOW, AS A CIRCUIT COURT, WE NEED TO BE THERE BECAUSE SOMEONE MAY BE DENIED THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE AND THEY NEED TO COME DOWN AND FOLLOW THE PETITION.

SO TECHNICALLY WE COULD TECHNICALLY BE UP UNTIL 7:00 PM THAT NIGHT WE CAN TECHNICALLY BE UP UNTIL 7:00 PM ON NOVEMBER 3RD, IF SOMEONE FILES A PETITION.

SO THAT'S NOT OUT OF THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY, BUT THERE ARE JUST OTHER TIMES THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE DOCKETS, WE JUST, CAN'T, IT'S A LITTLE MORE, LITTLE HARDER FOR US TO JUST STOP, STOP MOTION THAN IT IS FOR SOME OTHER OFFICES.

AND THAT'S FINE, BUT THAT'S THE REASON MAY I ASK YOU, WHY DO THEY NOT JUST GIVE YOU GUYS THE DECEMBER 31ST OFF? IF, IF THEY, THEY END THE YEAR AT DECEMBER 30TH, ANYWAY, CIRCUIT COURTS TAKE THEIR LIVES IN YOURS.

IF YOU WORK ON DECEMBER 3RD, THE PROBLEM IS CIRCUIT COURTS DON'T FALL UNDER THE SAME JURISDICTION NECESSARILY BECAUSE WE ARE INDEPENDENT OFFICERS.

EACH COURT IS INDEPENDENT IN SOME CIRCUIT COURTS ARE UNDER THEIR COUNTY'S UMBRELLA.

SOME ARE NOT, UH, SOME HAVE DIFFERENT RULES BALLERS ON, YOU KNOW, WE'RE UNDER THE COUNTY.

SO WE FOLLOW THE COUNTY POLICY, WHICH IS IF THE GOVERNOR DOESN'T DECLARE A HOLIDAY, WE'RE OPEN AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE RUNNING INTO THAT PROBLEM.

UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE OTHER TIMES WHEN THE COUNTY WILL BE CLOSED AND WE ARE OPEN.

SO IT KIND OF IS A BALANCE PER SE.

I JUST ASSUMED UNTIL THIS CAME UP, THAT YOU WERE CLOSED.

YEAH, NO, WE'RE OPEN.

WE'RE OFTEN OPEN WHEN THE DISTRICT COURTS ARE NOT A DISTRICT COURTS ARE GOVERNED BY THE STATE.

WE ARE NOT CIRCUIT COURTS ARE DIFFERENT.

WE FALL INTO A VERY UNUSUAL CATEGORY.

UM, THERE ARE 122 CIRCUITS AND WE CAN ALL BE VERY DIFFERENT.

WE DON'T ALL FALL UNDER LOCAL.

WE FOLLOW THE COUNTY'S POLICY BECAUSE OUR, OUR DEPUTY CLERKS ARE IN COUNTY AND THE COUNTY OFFICES CLOSED ON DECEMBER 31ST OR NOT.

WELL, I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO BE CLOSED BY ONE O'CLOCK NOW I'M CERTAIN ABOUT THAT.

I BELIEVE SINCE IT'S ON A THURSDAY, THAT IT IS NOT LISTED AT THIS POINT UNTIL THE BOARD DESIGNATES, IT'S NOT LISTED AS A HOLIDAY, WHICH WOULD BE A LOGICAL THING, BUT I'M CERTAIN THAT THERE WILL BE NO, NOTHING COMPLETELY COMPLETED AFTER ONE O'CLOCK.

SO I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HONOR THIS REQUEST.

JUST PUT IT ON NEXT MEETING'S AGENDA AND WE VOTE.

THAT AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CREATE ANY, ANY RIPPLES IN THE RIVER, SO TO SPEAK, BUT THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE FOR OUR OFFICE.

AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S PRETTY GOOD.

IT'S PRETTY CUT AND DRY OVERALL.

I MEAN, IT IS A HASSLE AND WE UNDERSTAND

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WE HAVE TO MANUALLY DO IT.

IT SKEWS OUR NUMBERS FOR AUDITING PURPOSES.

IT DOESN'T CREATE A CLEAN AUDIT BECAUSE IT'S NOT A BUSINESS DAY.

WE'RE OPERATING ON TWO DIFFERENT YEARS ON THAT DAY.

AND IT, IT CAN CREATE SOME ISSUES FOR US.

AND IT JUST, FROM AN AUDITING STANDPOINT ALONE, IT, IT ISN'T LIKE 20, 21 IS BETTER.

BUT THAT'S WHY I'M JUST TRYING TO PREPARE THIS, THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT EVERY 31ST THAT WE ARE, BECAUSE IT, WE RUN INTO THIS EVERY YEAR.

AND LIKE I SAID, THIS YEAR WAS JUST A LITTLE MORE TAXING THAN, THAN MOST BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD DO SOMETHING THAT RICHMOND THOUGHT THEY COULD HELP US DO SOMETHING.

AND THEY WERE TRYING TO BE HELPFUL.

IT JUST DIDN'T WORK OUT.

IT CREATED ACTUALLY IT, IT MUDDIES THE WATERS EVEN FURTHER.

SO, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ALL, BUT I THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING AND TAKING THIS UNDER CONSIDERATION.

WE DO APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE MAY EVEN CANCEL THE BOARD MEETINGS.

I WAS GONNA SAY, I THOUGHT THERE WAS ONLY ONE IN DECEMBER WHEN WE WERE GOING TO CANCEL IT.

I THINK EVERYBODY, PAT.

NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE DISCUSSION AND THE OVERVIEW OF THE GENERAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

[D. Discussion – Overview of the General Services Department – Brandy Rosser]

BRANDY, ARE YOU READY? YES, SIR.

GOOD NAME DEAN.

UH, CHAIRMAN MAY HAVE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

UM, I HAVE BEEN ASKED TONIGHT TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN OVERVIEW OF MY DEPARTMENT, UM, HOW WE ARE ORGANIZED, WHAT OUR BUDGET INCLUDES AND WHAT OUR AREAS OF RESPONSIBILITY ARE.

UM, I'LL RUN YOU THROUGH ALL OF THOSE ITEMS, PROVIDE YOU WITH A SHORT LIST OF CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE.

UM, AS WE START TO DEVELOP THE FY 2122 BUDGET, UM, AND AFTER COVERING THOSE ITEMS, I WANTED TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO SHOWCASE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT MY STAFF AND I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF BEING A PART OF OVER THE YEARS.

UH, SOME OF THESE PROJECTS PREDATE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE GENERAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UH, BUT STILL INVOLVED OUR CURRENT STAFF.

UM, I HOPE YOU FIND THE LIST OF PROJECTS.

IMPRESSIVE.

UM, I KNOW HOW HARD WE'VE WORKED ON THEM ALONG WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT WE COLLABORATED WITH.

UM, SO WITH, YEAH, UH, WARREN COUNTY'S GENERAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT WAS ESTABLISHED IN FISCAL YEAR 1718.

UH, THE MISSION OF OUR DEPARTMENT IS TO PROVIDE TIMELY AND COST-EFFECTIVE MAINTENANCE ON BUILDINGS AND PROPERTIES, UH, WHICH ARE OWNED AND OPERATED BY WARREN COUNTY.

UM, IT IS OUR GOAL TO PROVIDE, UM, NEAT, ATTRACTIVE, SAFE, AND HAZARD FREE, UM, ENVIRONMENTS WHILE PROVIDING A COMFORTABLE WORK ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, UM, AND THE PUBLIC THAT CONDUCT COUNTY BUSINESS.

SO THE DEPARTMENT'S RESPONSIBILITIES INCLUDE THE GENERAL MAINTENANCE AND JANITORIAL SERVICES NEEDED TO ENSURE PROPER UPKEEP OF OUR COUNTY FACILITIES.

UM, AND WE ALSO PLAY AN ACTIVE ROLE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE COUNTY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, UH, BY PROVIDING PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND STAFF SUPPORT FOR MANY PROJECTS DURING THE PLANNING AND CONSTRUCTION PHASES.

UM, THIS SLIDE SHOWS A BROAD OVERVIEW OF WHERE MY DEPARTMENT FALLS ACTUALLY UNDER COUNTY ADMINISTRATION.

UH, I DO SHARE A RECEPTIONIST POSITION WITH OUR HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGER, UM, AND REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

UH, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THE ACTUAL DEPARTMENT ITSELF.

UH, WE HAVE 13 EMPLOYEES, UM, NOT INCLUDING MYSELF THAT FALL UNDER MY SUPERVISION.

AND THAT INCLUDES ONE PROJECT MANAGER, TWO MAINTENANCE TECHNICIANS, ONE CUSTODIAL SUPERVISOR, FIVE FULL-TIME CUSTODIANS AND FOUR PART-TIME CUSTODIANS.

THE GENERAL SERVICES BUDGET FOR FY 2021 IS $1,384,135.

UH, THIS AMOUNT HAS SEEN A GRADUALLY INCREASE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, MAINLY DUE TO TRANSFERRING STAFF FROM PARKS AND RECREATION, UH, IN ORDER TO STREAMLINE THE SERVICES BEING PROVIDED, UM, OUR STAFF, UM, OR TO THE PUBLIC, I'M SORRY, THE TWO MAINTENANCE TECHNICIANS WERE MOVED OVER TO GENERAL SERVICES ALONG WITH ONE FULL-TIME AND THREE PART-TIME CUSTODIAL POSITIONS.

UM, THIS TRANSITION HAS ALLOWED OUR DEPARTMENT TO TAKE ON FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND CUSTODIAL SERVICES BEING PERFORMED AT OUR FACILITIES.

, UH, JUST TO GO OVER SOME BUDGET HIGHLIGHTS, UM, AS STATED ON MY LAST SLIDE, THE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET IS JUST UNDER 1.4 MILLION, AND THAT INCLUDES A STAFF OF 14 WITH MAINTENANCE AND CUSTODIAL SERVICES BEING PROVIDED TO APPROXIMATELY 30 PUBLIC BUILDINGS.

UM, AT FACILITIES, IT DOES INCLUDE SIX VEHICLES, UH, SIX CELL PHONES OR CELL PHONE STIPENDS, UM, AND OUTSIDE THE PERSONNEL

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COST.

OUR BUDGET IS DOMINATED BY ELECTRICAL SERVICE, WHICH IS ABOUT 15% OF THE OVERALL BUDGET AND GENERAL MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS ROUGHLY 16.

UH, THE BUDGET IS VERY CLOSELY TIED TO OUR CAPITAL OUTLAY, UM, LINE ITEMS AND SPECIAL PROJECT BUDGET AS WELL.

AND THAT'S DUE TO ALLOW THE PROJECTS HAVING A HIGHER PRICE TAG.

UM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE MONEY APPROPRIATED AHEAD OF TIME.

UM, SO THAT WE HAVE AN IN HAND, WHEN WE GET READY TO IMPLEMENT, THEY ASK YOU A QUESTION, OF COURSE, YOU WENT OVER IT.

I JUST KIND OF MISS SOME OF IT.

BUT IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, YOU EXPLAINED WHY THE, THE BUDGET INCREASE FROM FISCAL YEAR 19 AND FISCAL YEAR 20, UH, CAUSE YOU TOOK ON MORE PEOPLE OR WHAT EXACTLY FROM 19 TO 2019 TO 21 FOR TWO 85 OF PERSONNEL OF FIVE OH SIX, UH, THAT WAS THE TRANSITION OF THE TWO FULL-TIME MAINTENANCE TECHNICIANS.

UM, AND THEN LATER ON ACTUALLY THE, THE CUSTODIAL POSITIONS DIDN'T GET MOVED OVER IMMEDIATELY.

SO THE FULL-TIME CUSTODIAN AND PART-TIME CUSTODIAN POSITIONS ACTUALLY CAME OVER A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE BUDGET.

THEY WERE JUST, THEY WERE, THEY WERE IN THE PARKS AND REC BUDGET.

SO THE POSITIONS WERE ALREADY FUNDED.

WE JUST TRANSFERRED HIM OVER TO MY DEPARTMENT, UH, JUST TO STREAMLINE OUR, UH, INCREASE FROM 20 FISCAL YEAR 20 TO 21.

THERE'S ANOTHER 112.

AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE THE ACTUAL CUSTODIAL POSITIONS ARE MOVED OVER.

CAUSE INITIALLY, UM, WHEN THE BUDGET CAME OUT, THEY HAD ONLY MOVED OVER THE MAINTENANCE TECHNICIANS.

UM, BUT THEY TRANSFERRED THE FUNDING OVER FROM PARKS AND REC TO MY DEPARTMENT FOR THE CUSTODIAL POSITIONS AND ALSO, UH, SOME CUSTODIAL SUPPLIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT FOR THEM TO USE MORE OR LESS A REORGANIZATION.

THAT'S CORRECT.

ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS AND CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES.

SO WHEN PARKS COMES IN, YOU SHOULD SEE THE DROPS OR, UH, GENERAL SERVICES IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FOLLOWING.

UH, WE PLAN PRIORITIZE, SCHEDULE, ASSIGN, AND REVIEW MAINTENANCE PROGRAMMING.

UM, I WON'T READ EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE, BUT A LOT OF THOSE ARE LIGHTING REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENT.

THAT'S BOTH INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR.

SO WE TAKE CARE OF ALL OF OUR PARKING LOT LIGHTING AND IT FACILITIES AS WELL.

UH, PLUMBING, REPAIRS, HVAC MAINTENANCE, UM, AND REPLACEMENTS, UH, RENOVATIONS.

THOSE ARE BOTH LARGE AND SMALL.

UM, ALL OF OUR LOCKING A SECURITY SYSTEM, JUST DOORS AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

UH, FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEMS, BACKFLOW SYSTEMS, SPRINKLER SYSTEMS, FIRE EXTINGUISHERS, AND FIRE ALARM PANELS.

UH, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR HAVING THAT INSPECTED ANNUALLY AND MAINTAINING IT, UH, EMERGENCY LIGHTING, UH, GENERATOR MAINTENANCE, UH, COMMERCIAL KITCHEN HOODS AND FIRE SUPPRESSION.

THAT'S THE ANNUAL INSPECTION, UM, AS WELL, ELEVATORS PEST CONTROL, UH, UTILITIES, AND ALSO PRIORITIZING THE WORK ORDERS THAT COME IN ON OUR SOFTWARE SYSTEM.

UH, WHEN IT COMES TO CUSTODIAL SERVICES, WE DO, UH, GENERAL DAILY CLEANINGS.

UM, WE ALSO DO ANNUAL DEEP CLEANINGS, UM, OF CERTAIN ITEMS SUCH AS CARPETS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

UM, AS FAR AS COVID RELATED ACTIVITIES, UM, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AS BEING THE ONE THAT HAD THE INCREASED EXPOSURE.

UM, BUT I JUST CAN'T SAY HOW MUCH, HOW, OR HOW GREAT MY STAFF HAS BEEN ON TAKING ON THIS ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

UM, THEY'RE IN THERE CLEANING SURFACES EVERY TWO HOURS, UH, ORDERING STORY TO INVENTORY AND DISTRIBUTING LIKE PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT AND APPROPRIATE CLEANING SUPPLIES, UM, MAINTAINING ALL OF OUR SDS SHEETS.

UH, WE STARTED DOING ELECTROSTATIC DEEP CLEANINGS, UM, ON ALL OF OUR FACILITIES, UH, THE INSTALLATION OF BARRIERS AND BUILDING INSPECTIONS, UM, ADMINISTRATION, EXTENSION, AND SOCIAL SERVICES.

UH, WE'RE GETTING READY TO, ONCE IT GETS APPROVED, MANDATORY TREATMENT OF COURTROOMS AND COMMON SPACES AT THE COURTHOUSE ONCE JURY TRIALS RESUME.

AND WE'VE ALSO BEEN, UM, DOING A LOT OF EMERGENCY CLEANINGS AFTER POTENTIAL EXPOSURES.

SO WE'VE HAD AT LEAST 10 OF THOSE WHERE WE HAD TO GO IN SPACES, UM, AND FULL GEAR AND BASICALLY DISINFECT THE SPACE BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL OF SOMEBODY BEING HERE, AS FAR AS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

UH, WE DO A LOT OF PROJECT PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW PERMITTING.

THAT'S BOTH INTERNALLY WITH OUR BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS EXTERNAL AGENCIES AS REQUIRED, UH, COORDINATION OF PROCUREMENT CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, PROJECT AND BUDGET MANAGEMENT, UH, COORDINATION WITH THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY ON RENOVATIONS TO THE FACILITY, SUCH AS THE COURTHOUSE, UH, STAFF SUPPORT DURING PROJECT IMPLEMENTATION AND THEN CLOSE OUT DOCUMENTATION SUCH AS WARRANTIES AS BUILTS OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE MANUALS AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

AND FINALLY, FOR THE ITEMS THAT AREN'T ALWAYS CONSIDERED TO BE UNDER GENERAL SERVICES, BUT THIS IS CERTAINLY PART OF WHAT WE DO, UH, AS THE GRANT COORDINATION AND WRITING.

UH, SINCE I CAME ON IN 2009, THIS IS A SERVICE THAT WE'VE OFFERED

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UM, AND TO DATE WE BROUGHT IN JUST OVER $7.4 MILLION.

SO SINCE 2009, UM, I THINK THAT'S FAIRLY IMPRESSIVE, UM, GRANT MANAGEMENT, UH, FOR ANYBODY THAT HAS WRITTEN GRANTS BEFORE, UH, THE WRITING OF IT IS REALLY JUST THE FIRST STEP, UM, WHEN THE REAL WORK STARTS COMING IN IS WHEN YOU'RE HAVING TO DO ALL OF THE REPORTING.

UH, THE PROJECT IMPLEMENTATION, UM, COMPLETION, ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES, PROJECT OVERSIGHT, PERMITTING PROCUREMENT, LIKE ALL OF THOSE ITEMS. SO, UM, THAT DEFINITELY TAKES UP A LOT OF TIME ALSO WITH PROCUREMENT.

UM, OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, I'VE TAKEN AN ACTIVE ROLE IN THE COUNTY'S PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

UM, SOME OF THESE ACTIVITIES INCLUDE PREPARING DOCUMENTS, SUCH AS INVITATION FOR BID, UM, EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT DOCUMENTATION AND SOLE SOURCE DOCUMENTATION.

UH, TWO GOOD EXAMPLES OF THE EMERGENCY PROCUREMENTS THAT WE RECENTLY DID WHERE THE PHONE SYSTEMS FOR THE GOVERNMENT CENTER IN COURTHOUSE, UM, OUR STAFF ALSO MANAGE THESE, THESE MANAGES THESE APPROVED CONTRACTS FOR DESIGNATED COUNTY FUNCTIONS.

UH, WE ALSO DO A LOT OF INTERIOR DESIGN WORK.

UM, SINCE MY COLLEGE DEGREE IS ACTUALLY AN INTERIOR ARCHITECTURE, WE TYPICALLY TRY AND PULL THOSE SERVICES AWAY FROM AN ARCHITECT WHERE WE MAY SPEND, UH, 30, 40 OR $50,000 JUST FOR THE ACTUAL PROCESS, NOT EVEN THE FURNITURE.

SO WE TRY AND DO THAT IN HOUSE AS POSSIBLE.

WE DO A LOT OF INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE AT OUR PARKS.

UH, WE ALSO, UM, SERVE AS THE COUNTY REPRESENTATION ON A VARIETY OF BOARDS AND COMMITTEES.

UM, OVER THE YEARS, IT'S INCLUDED A LOT.

IT'S BEEN THE BLUE RIDGE COMMITTEE CELEBRATE SHANANDOAH COMMITTEE, BUILDING COMMITTEE, BROADBAND COMMITTEE, UM, EMERGENCY OPERATIONS LEADERSHIP TEAM, UH, WE'RE IN CLARK MICRO ENTERPRISE ASSISTANCE PROJECT, WARREN COUNTY TELECOM, TELECOMMUNICATIONS MANAGEMENT TEAM, OR REGIONAL JAIL AUTHORITY, UM, IN THE CORRIDOR CONNECTOR PROJECT.

UM, I STILL DO LIST WEBSITE AND SOCIAL MEDIA MANAGEMENT, UM, BEFORE MRS. SHAHRAKI CAME TO THE COUNTY.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT I HANDLED, UM, WHILE I DON'T DO AS MUCH OF IT.

NOW, EMILY AND I ARE, ARE REALLY THE ONLY TWO PEOPLE THAT HAVE FULL ACCESS TO THOSE ACCOUNTS.

SO IF SOMETHING WAS TO HAPPEN TO BOTH OF US WOULD PROBABLY BE A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM.

SO, UM, AND LASTLY, JUST THE MANAGEMENT OF RENTAL PRICES.

IT WAS THEN KNOWN AS THE FISHNET PROPERTY.

FINALLY, THE BUDGET CONCERNS FOR FY 2122.

UM, I THINK EVERY YEAR, I THINK ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS IS HIRING AND KEEPING QUALIFIED STAFF.

UH, RIGHT NOW I HAVE A WONDERFUL GROUP THAT IS VERY DEDICATED.

UH, I KNOW I CAN ALWAYS DEPEND ON THEM, SO I REALLY WANT TO KEEP THAT TEAM TOGETHER BECAUSE WE WORK VERY WELL TOGETHER.

UM, ADDITIONAL COVID REQUIREMENTS, UM, AND STAFF BURNOUT.

I DO HAVE SOME STAFF THAT'S WORKING 50, 60 HOURS A WEEK.

UM, SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS, WE CAN'T COME IN AND DO ELECTROSTATIC TREATMENT WHILE STAFF IS HERE.

SO WE HAVE TO COME IN AT FOUR 35 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND HANDLE IT.

OR WE'RE IN HERE AT EIGHT 30 OR NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT WE'RE IN HER SATURDAY, SUNDAYS.

UM, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO, UH, THE POSSIBLE ADDITION OF COUNTY OWNED PROPERTIES IS ALWAYS A CONCERN JUST FOR ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE UTILITIES, PEST CONTROL, UM, AND THAT TYPE OF THING, UH, AGING FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

I DO SEE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, UH, SOME ROOF REPLACEMENTS AND HVAC REPLACEMENTS THAT WILL NEED TO TAKE PLACE.

MANY OF WHICH ARE ALREADY IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, A FIRE MARSHAL INSPECTIONS.

ONCE WE REALLY GET THOSE GOING, I DO SEE, UM, A COST ASSOCIATED, UM, FOR THOSE, UH, THE GRANT WRITER POSITION IS SOMETHING I'VE CERTAINLY SPOKE WITH MR. MAVE ABOUT, UM, THE PENCE, LIKE THE POTENTIAL OF ADDING THAT BACK INTO THE BUDGET, UM, AND GOING FOR EVEN MORE THAN WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

UH, THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY OUT THERE.

UM, AND FINALLY, JUST THE NEW VEHICLE FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

UM, THIS IS AN EXPENSE THAT'S BEEN SET ASIDE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AT SIT IN SPECIAL PROJECTS.

UM, WHEN WE GET READY TO DO IT, UM, IT WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON MY BUDGET FOR THE ACTUAL PURPOSE OR THE PURCHASE.

UM, THE MONEY IS ALREADY SITTING IN SPECIAL PROJECTS.

I'LL TRY AND GO THROUGH THESE VERY QUICKLY, BUT I DEFINITELY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF OUR GREAT PROJECTS.

UM, THESE HAVE EITHER BEEN COMPLETED OVER THE YEARS, UM, OR IN THE PROCESS OF BEING COMPLETED, UH, FIRSTLY OF EASTON PARK.

UH, THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS I WAS GIVEN WHEN I CAME TO WARREN COUNTY.

UH, THE PARK INCLUDES OVER A MILE AND A HALF OF WALKING TRAILS, A DOG PARK, THREE MULTI-USE ATHLETIC FIELDS, A SMALL PLAYGROUND PARKING AREA, A BOAT LANDING, AND AN OUTDOOR CLASSROOM IN TOTAL, LUDY RECEIVED ALMOST $900,000 GRANT FUNDING, UM, INCLUDING 250,000 FROM VDI TO IMPROVE LOU RAY AVENUE, LEADING TO THE PARK, UH, ROCKLAND PARK WITHOUT GETTING INTO TOO MUCH, UM, INTO THIS PURCHASE BECAUSE IT IS A VERY LARGE PROPERTY.

UH, THE COUNTY PURCHASED THE 219 ACRE PROPERTY IN 2009.

UM,

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UM, OVER TIME, THE COUNTY HAS IMPLEMENTED PORTIONS OF THE MASTER PLAN, UM, AND IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE WALKING TRAILS, LARGE PLAYGROUND MUSIC PARK, DISC GOLF, COURSE, EXERCISE STATIONS, UH, SHELTERS, MULTIPURPOSE, PLAYING FIELDS, PARKING AREAS, AND ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.

UH, THE COUNTY HAS RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY $700,000 FOR THIS PARK IN GRANT FUNDING, UH, DO ASSIST WITH COMPLETING THESE PROJECTS.

UM, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE POSSIBLE RENOVATION OF THE BATH HOUSE NEXT.

UM, THE MASTER PLAN IS THAT ON THE WEBSITE? IT IS OKAY.

I THOUGHT IT WAS SO, AND WE DID DO SOME REVISIONS AFTER, UM, GETTING INTO A COUPLE OF THE PHASES.

CAUSE WE STARTED MOVING STUFF AROUND A LITTLE BIT ORIGINALLY.

WE SAID MAYBE THIS COULD BE AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITE.

WE'VE KIND OF NIXED THAT IDEA FOR NOW.

WE LOOKED AT A FIRE RESCUE TRAINING FACILITY, WHICH MAY NOT BE AS FEASIBLE AT THIS POINT.

IF WE ARE TO DO THE ESA LANG PROBLEM, I TRY TO DO IT AS FAR AS PAY AS YOU GO TYPE OF THING.

LIKE YOU SAID, A LOT OF GRANTS FOR THAT TOO.

AND THEN, UM, AND UH, ONE THOUGHT WAS ELEVATES IN THERE OR NOT, BUT THERE USED TO BE ON A STAGE.

THERE IS THERE'S THE AMPHITHEATER INCLUDED.

UM, IT'S KIND OF IN LIKE THE BOTTOM RIGHT AREA.

UH, WE WOULD LOVE TO GET THAT IN THERE.

I COULD SEE IT EASILY BEING A $500,000 PROJECT.

ONCE YOU GET EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE PARKING AND RESTROOM FACILITIES, UH, TO GET THAT FACILITY CONSTRUCT.

THERE WAS SOME TALK AS FAR AS THE 4TH OF JULY THING IT'S HELD UP AT THE FOUR H CENTER WILL BE DOWN THERE BECAUSE IT MAY HAVE A LOT EASIER ACCESS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

I DEFINITELY THINK SO.

AND AGAIN, ONCE WE GET THE PARKING AREAS IN THERE, I THINK IT OPENS US UP FOR WHAT TYPE OF, UM, EVENTS OR FESTIVALS OR ANYTHING ELSE WE COULD HOLD AT THE PROPERTY THERE WITH LPGA.

WE HAVE THEM KIND OF ON STANDBY ON CONTRACT FOR DIFFERENT PRODUCTS ON ANNUAL TERM CONTRACT RIGHT NOW.

SO WE ARE ABLE TO UTILIZE THEIR SERVICES WITHOUT PUTTING THE PROJECT UP OR OUT FORBID I HAVE A QUESTION.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO, UM, THE DOG PARK, UM, TO EAT SOME, UH, IS THERE A POTENTIAL FOR EXPANDING THAT WALKING TRAIL AROUND THE RIVER FURTHER? IS THERE ANY POTENTIAL, HAS THAT EVER BEEN CONSIDERED IN THE, WHAT SECTION ARE YOU WELL, SO, SO IT'S, IT'S EXACTLY 2.1 AND 1.8 MILES ROUND TRIP.

SO WHAT I'VE HEARD A LOT FROM PEOPLE IS WOULDN'T IT BE AWESOME IF IT WENT FURTHER DOWN THE RIVER AND KIND OF LIKE FOLLOWED ONTO THE OLD AVTEX PROPERTY? EXACTLY.

SINCE WE OWN MUCH OF THAT AS WELL.

IN THE AREA WHERE THE AMPHITHEATER WILL BE MR. CARTER, UH, THE PLAYGROUNDS, ANOTHER WONDERFUL PROJECT THAT WE WORKED ON WITH PARKS AND REC, UH, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS PAID FOR IN HOUSE.

SO IS, HAS THERE EVER BEEN ANY CONSIDERATION FOR EXTENSION OF THAT WALKING? THERE COULD BE LIKE A RIVER WALK APPLIED FOR DUPONT FUNDING TO ACTUALLY EXTEND THE TRAIL.

UM, THAT WAY IT GETS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE OF THE RESTRICTIONS ON THE APP TAX PROPERTY, THAT YOU CAN ONLY DISTURB THE GROUND SO MUCH.

SO YOU CAN'T DIG DOWN IN THE GROUND.

UM, IT GETS A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO MAKE IT ADA.

SO DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF FUNDING YOU HAVE ON IT, IF IT HAS AN ADA REQUIREMENT, THERE'S A CHANCE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MEET IT.

SO I WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO HAVE A PATH THROUGH IT, BUT YOU COULDN'T HAVE IT, ANY FACILITIES AT ALL, NO BENCHES OR RESTROOMS OR ANYTHING.

IF WE WERE TO POUR LIKE A CONCRETE PAD, WE COULDN'T REALLY LEVEL THE GROUND OUT VERY MUCH.

WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE PAD DIRECTLY ON TOP OF WHATEVER GROUND IS THERE, BUT IT WAS SET UP RIGHT NOW AS IT STANDS, THE PASSIVE PARK.

AND I THINK YOU COULD PUT TRAILS THROUGH THERE, BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO BE MULCHED.

IT WOULD BE MULCH OR SOME TYPE OF LIKE, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND NOW YOU'RE GETTING, LIKE YOU SAID, AND MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT.

UM, IT'S, IT'S BEAUTIFUL IF WE COULD EVER GET THE TRAIL OUT THAT WAY.

UM, THAT SECTION OF THE RIVER IS, IS IT'S GORGEOUS.

AND A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO RUN ON THE TRAIL BY, YOU KNOW, THROUGH EAST, SOME WOULD LOVE TO HAVE AN EXTENSION AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, HAVE THREE, FOUR, FIVE MILES OF RUNNING.

UM, THE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CROSS COUNTRY TEAMS. I MEAN, THEY UTILIZE THIS, THESE, THESE TRAILS ALL THE TIME.

I THINK IF WE COULD FIND AN APPROPRIATE FUNDING SOURCE, WE COULD, WE COULD PROBABLY FIND A SOLUTION.

WE PROBABLY NEED A GRANT WRITER JUMPED BACK OVER JUST THE FEW PICTURES FROM ROCKLAND PARK.

THE TOP LEFT IS A SHELTER THAT WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED FUNDING FROM ROTARY FOR.

SO THAT WAS, WE TRY AND GO OUT AND GET SPONSORSHIPS FOR THESE ITEMS. THIS WAS A $25,000 DONATION OVER FIVE YEARS.

UM, SO WHILE IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN HOUSE, THE ACTUAL MATERIAL COST WAS PAID THROUGH THAT, UH, DONATION.

UM, ON THE BOTTOM LEFT IS THE WALKING TRAIL.

UH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO GRANTS FOR THE WALKING TRAILS, ONE THAT LEADS FROM THE GOLF COURSE OVER TO ROCKLAND PARK THAT WAS FUNDED THROUGH, UM, THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY.

AND THEN WE HAVE A DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION AND RECREATION GRANT FOR JUST OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND.

UM, THAT DID ANOTHER SECTION OF THE TRAIL, UM, THAT KIND OF LOOPS AROUND

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UM, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY ONE OF OUR MOST USED FACILITIES AND EVERYBODY LOVES IT.

THE WARREN COUNTY COMMUNITY CENTER, UH, THIS IS THE FORMAL ST LOUIS PUBLIC LIBRARY THAT WAS RENOVATED, UM, IN JANUARY OF 2011, THEIR INNOVATION OF THE FACILITY IS MADE POSSIBLE BY GRANT FUNDING THROUGH THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, UM, AND THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT.

UM, BOTH OF THOSE WERE SECURED WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF FRANK WOLF, UM, OF THE APPROXIMATELY $800,000 COST TO RENOVATE THE BUILDING.

UH, JUST OVER 690,000 OF IT WAS GRANT FUNDED.

UH, THE FACILITY HOUSES A PORTION OF OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, ALONG WITH SOME OTHER SMALL AGENCIES THAT USE, UM, SOME OF THE SMALL CLASSROOM SPACE THERE.

UH, THE WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING IS THE HOME TO OUR DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

UH, THIS FACILITY WAS OPENED IN OCTOBER OF 2012 AND INCLUDES 44,370 SQUARE FEET.

UM, IT COSTS JUST OVER $10.5 MILLION.

UH, THE BUILDING IS LEED SILVER CERTIFIED, UH, IT'S HEATED BY ENERGY EFFICIENT, UM, HYDRONIC, RADIANT SYSTEM AND ENERGY SAVING LED LIGHTING.

THE RSW REGIONAL JAIL IS ONE THAT I WAS, UM, PRETTY HEAVILY INVOLVED IN WITH THE AUTHORITY.

UM, IT IS THE HOME, UH, FOR THE REGIONAL JAIL FOR RAPPAHANNOCK SHANANDOAH WARREN COUNTIES.

IT OPENED IN JUNE OF 2014 AND HAS APPROXIMATELY 179,000 SQUARE FEET.

UH, THE COST FOR THE FACILITY WAS ABOUT $56 MILLION.

UH, THE CAPACITY AT OPENING WAS 375 INMATES, UM, THAT WAS SINGLE BUMPED.

UM, SO THERE IS THE ABILITY TO INCREASE SOME OF THAT.

UM, AND IT IS A LEAD SILVER CERTIFIED, UH, FACILITY, WHICH INCLUDES MANY SUSTAINABLE FEATURES THAT HAVE RESULTED IN ENERGY RE ENERGY USE REDUCTION, WATER USE REDUCTION OF WASTEWATER VOLUME REDUCTION AND THAT 56 MILLION.

THAT WAS THE TOTAL COST.

UH, THAT WAS THE CONSTRUCTION COST.

I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO SAY IT WASN'T LIKE ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS.

IT'S ALSO THE THING TOO, IS THAT THE REASON WE WENT IN WITH THE OTHER TWO COUNTIES WAS BECAUSE I THINK THE STATE WOUND UP PAYING 25%.

I BELIEVE IT WAS 50 AT THAT POINT.

AND THAT WAS THE LAST YEAR THAT THE STATE, UH, CONTRIBUTED 50% OF FUNDING TO REGIONAL JAIL FACILITIES.

SO REALLY, UM, AT THAT POINT IT WAS A REALLY GOOD MOVE TO GET THIS FACILITY CONSTRUCTED.

MAYBE YOU SAID, MAYBE I DIDN'T HEAR, BUT DOES YOUR DEPARTMENT DO ANYTHING WITH IT NOW OR, UM, AT THIS POINT, OTHER THAN, UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME COVID STUFF THAT I'VE DONE WITH THEM, BUT NOW WE NO LONGER HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.

WE WERE MORE INVOLVED IN THE PLANNING AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE FACILITY.

THEY'RE INMATES, UM, TAKE CARE OF THE LAWN AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FACILITIES CREW, UM, AN IT STAFF, A RESI JEFFRIES, THE BUILDING RENOVATION AND PLAYGROUND OUR STAFF ASSISTED WITH THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION, UH, FOR THE SCHOOL'S RENOVATION THAT WAS COMPLETED A FEW YEARS AGO.

UH, THE PROJECT SCOPE INCLUDED THE EXPANSION OF THE PARKING AREAS, ADDITION OF A MAIN ENTRANCE, NEW ROOF, NEW BOILERS, UH, NEW WINDOWS AND WINDOW TREATMENTS, UM, HVAC, GYMNASIUM, RENOVATION, DOORS FLOORING, AND OTHER FINISHES, UM, IN TOTAL, UH, MORE THAN $5 MILLION WAS SPENT ON THE RENOVATION.

UH, BUT FOR THE PLAYGROUND PORTION, PARENT TEACHER, ORGANIZATION ACTUALLY HAS RAISED ALL THE MONEY THAT HAS PAID FOR THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S BEEN INSTALLED ON THE PLAYGROUND.

UH, TRULY ONE OF THE BEST FUNDRAISERS I'VE SEEN, UH, FOR A SCHOOL THEY'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB.

UH, WE'RE ABOUT TWO AND A HALF PHASES IN TO THE, UH, THE FULL, I GUESS, DESIGN OF THE PLAYGROUND.

UH, THERE STILL IS SOME EQUIPMENT THAT WILL BE ORDERED AND INSTALLED AS THEY HAVE FUNDED.

SO I GET UPDATES FROM THEIR PRINCIPAL ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT THEY HAVE LEFT AND WE CAN KIND OF BALLPARK WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THAT AMOUNT.

ONCE THEY'RE READY TO GO.

CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? OOPS.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN, UH, AERIAL PICTURE IS, AND I WORKED THERE FOR A LONG TIME.

SO I REMEMBER ALL THE ROOF ISSUES THAT WERE THERE.

UM, THE GREEN PART, THAT'S ALL NEW ROOF, FOR SURE.

IT IS THE WHITE PART.

IS THAT, WAS THAT ALSO NEW ROOFING, JUST A DIFFERENT TYPE IT'S NEW ROOF, BUT IT CA IT WAS KEPT FLAT, UM, TO CUT THE PRICE DOWN INSTEAD OF HAVING ALL THE ROOF PITCH, LIKE THE GREEN IS, UM, CERTAIN SECTIONS OF THE SCHOOL ACTUALLY DO STILL HAVE THE FLAT ROOF.

EVEN, EVEN THAT SECTION IN BETWEEN, IT'S A HALLWAY THAT GOES DOWN THE MAIN, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE A STRIPE IN IT AND THAT'S NEW AS WELL.

IT LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN I WILL DOUBLE CHECK AND LET YOU KNOW FOR SURE, BUT I BELIEVE THE ENTIRE FACILITY WAS REROUTED.

HAVING ISSUES WITH THE, THE AIR CONDITIONING THERE? I WAS TOLD THAT'S FREQUENTLY HAVE, UM, I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT I CAN CHECK WITH GREG LIVESAY WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM SINCE THEY HANDLE THEIR, THEIR HVAC WORK.

AND ARE THEY STILL

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UM, WE HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN THE HVAC SINCE THE PROJECT WAS ACTUALLY WRAPPED UP.

I JUST SAW THE W I ASSUME THAT'S THE BOILER AREA THERE.

WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF CARS PARKED ALONG THE ROADWAY, UM, AND IT HAS BECOME A SAFETY CONCERN, UM, TO ADDRESS THE KNOWN ISSUES WITH THE LANDING.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

UH, FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS, THE COUNTY HAS BEEN WORKING ON A BUS PICK UP AND DROP OFF AREA FOR THE RESIDENTS LIVING IN, UH, BLUE MOUNTAIN SHANANDOAH FARMS, SKYLINE TO STATES AND FRIESLAND MANNER.

AND THAT'S THIS FACILITY THAT'S LOCATED OFF OF FRIESLAND ROAD.

UH, THIS IS KNOWN AS THE THOMPSON KISSING RIDE.

UH, THE GOAL OF THE PROJECT WAS TO PROVIDE A SAFER ENVIRONMENT FOR STUDENTS AND PARENTS THAT UTILIZE THE BUS TRANSPORTATION.

UH, IT'S A 3.19 ACRE PARCEL OF PROPERTY THAT WAS PURCHASED FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF GAME AND INLAND FISHERIES OR DEPARTMENT OF WILDLIFE RESOURCES.

NOW, UM, OUR WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS CURRENTLY DOES HAVE ONE ROUTE THAT USES THIS, UM, ALONG WITH A SPECIAL NEEDS BUS.

UM, THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING TO REASSIGN STUDENTS TO OTHER, OR FROM OTHER BUS STOPS, JUST BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A VERY SAFE AREA WITH PARKING, UM, AND A BUS TURNAROUND.

SO, UH, TO DATE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARKING AREA, TURNAROUND SHELTER, BIORETENTION PONDS, UM, AND A SMALL SWING SET.

WE'RE GETTING READY TO INSTALL THE SOLAR LIGHTING IN THE PARKING LOT.

UM, AND A SMALL PLAYGROUND WILL BE INSTALLED IN 2021.

I THOUGHT THERE WAS A PLAYGROUND ALREADY UP THERE.

THERE'S A SWING SET, AND I THINK IT HAS TWO OR THREE SWINGS ON IT.

THIS'LL BE, UM, JUST A SMALL, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE PLAYGROUND AT EASTON PARK, RIGHT? WHEN YOU PULL IN THE PARKING LOT, SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S FAIRLY SMALL LIKE THAT.

UH, WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME GRANT FUNDING FOR IT ALREADY.

UM, SOME OF THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS HAVE ALSO PLEDGED MONEY, UM, SINCE IT'LL BE A FACILITY THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO USE SINCE THEY'LL ACTUALLY HAVE A PARK IN THAT AREA.

UM, ALSO OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE'VE INSTALLED, UM, THREE MUSIC PARKS, THANKS TO THE VERY GENEROUS DONATIONS OF LORRAINE HOLQUIST, UH, THE TOP TWO PICTURES OF THE MUSIC PARK FROM ROCKLIN PARK, UH, WHERE SHE DONATED JUST OVER $21,000, UH, FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THAT EQUIPMENT.

UH, THE BOTTOM PICTURES ARE FROM LION'S PARK WHERE MS. WHOLE DONATED, UM, ALMOST $19,000 FOR THAT PROJECT.

UH, WE'VE ALSO INSTALLED A THIRD MUSIC PARK AT BURRELL BROOKS, UM, WHICH I APOLOGIZE THAT'S THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER IS RURAL BROOKS.

UM, SO WE NOW HAVE THREE FULL MUSIC PARKS THANKS TO HER DONATIONS.

UM, I'VE SEEN THEM USED QUITE A BIT.

IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN EASILY HAVE OUR STAFF INSTALL.

UM, AND THE FACT THAT SHE BOUGHT THE EQUIPMENT, IT'S JUST BEEN WONDERFUL, UH, FOR BOAT LANDINGS, UM, MOORE COUNTY HAS BEEN ACTIVELY WORKING TO IMPROVE PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE SHENANDOAH RIVER.

UH, THE TOP TWO PHOTOGRAPHS ARE FROM FARMS RIVER VIEW ON THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED WITH THE HELP OF A $50,000 GRANT.

UM, FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF WILDLIFE RESOURCES, THE BOTTOM TWO PICTURES ARE SIMPSONS LANDING.

THEY RECEIVED A SIMILAR GRANT OF 25,000.

UM, THAT IS LIKE A CANOE LAUNCH WITH THE FIRST ONE BEING FROM MOTORIZED BOATS.

UH, BOTH PROJECTS HAVE BEEN WELL-RECEIVED, UM, AND VERY MUCH ENJOYED BY OUR CITY.

OUR NEXT BOAT LANDING THAT'LL BE CONSTRUCTED AS THE MORGAN FORD BRIDGE LANDING.

UH, MORGAN FORD IS CRITICAL DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT PROVIDES ACCESS TO THE MAIN STEM OF THE SHANANDOAH RIVER.

UM, AND IT IS HEAVILY USED BY THE PUBLIC.

IT'S DEFINITELY UNDERDEVELOPED AS AN ACCESS POINT AND CONSTRUCTION OF THIS ACCESS WOULD IMPROVE WATER QUALITY BY REDUCING, UH, STREAM BANK EROSION.

UM, EXCUSE ME.

UH, MUCH OF THE WORK RICARD FOR THIS PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETED IN HOUSE.

UH, WE HAVE RECEIVED A A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS GRANT FROM, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF WILDLIFE RESOURCES THROUGH THE DUPONT, UM, FOUNDATION.

UH, AND WE SEE THE TOTAL PROJECT COSTS BE IN ROUGHLY 150,000.

UM, BUT WE HOPE TO HAVE THIS PROJECT CONSTRUCTED IN EARLY 2021.

UM, I FEEL LIKE WE'LL HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS BACK LATER THIS MONTH.

THOSE WILL BE SENT TO THE STATE FOR REVIEW BUILDING INSPECTIONS.

UM, AND I'LL MAKE SURE YOU GUYS HAVE A COPY AS WELL.

WHEN DO WE HAVE THE FINAL DESIGN FOR MORGAN FORD? UH, ONCE WE GET THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, THEY'LL HAVE TO GO OUT FOR REVIEW, UH, THEN WE'LL COME OUT A PRELIMINARY FINAL SET.

UM, SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT WOULD BE DONE CLOSE TO THE END OF THIS YEAR.

UM, AND THEN WE CAN REALLY GET OUR STAFF GOING ON AT, UH, THE FINAL BOAT LANDING IS LOCATED IN BENTONVILLE OFF INDIAN HOLLOW ROAD.

UM, THIS IS A 2.19 ACRE SITE THAT'S OWNED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF WILDLIFE RESOURCES.

UH, WE HAVE SUBMITTED A GRANT FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, UM, TO THE DUPONT FOUNDATION, UM, SEEKING TO DO IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS.

IT IS, IT IS VERY HEAVILY USED.

UM,

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WE ARE PROPOSING TO EXPAND AND UPGRADE THE EXISTING PARKING AREA TO UPGRADE THE EXISTING BOAT LANDING, UH, THE CREATION OF A NEW, UH, CONCRETE BOAT RAMP AND ENHANCED SITE AMENITIES, WHICH INCLUDES SIGNAGE, A PORTABLE RESTROOM, POSSIBLY A METAL GATE.

IF WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S NEEDED, WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON THAT.

UM, THAT RIGHT NOW IS PROBABLY SITTING AT ABOUT 125,000 IF WE ARE INCREDIBLY, UH, CONSERVATIVE.

SO WE WILL HAVE TO ELIMINATE A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, UH, JUST TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T GO OVER ONE ACRE OF DISTURBANCE AND HAVE TO BUY, UH, DEQ CREDITS THE GRANT MONEY A HUNDRED THOUSAND, UM, AND THAT'LL BE ANNOUNCED IN JANUARY.

SO IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN GET THE PROJECT BUDGET DOWN AS CLOSE TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND, UM, GREAT.

WE CAN COME BACK WITH A PHASE TWO LATER ON, UM, AND ADD SOME ADDITIONAL AMENITIES IF WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

AND THAT'S WHERE YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE HYDRANT, UM, A DRY HYDRANT UP THERE, THEIR MAIN AREA I'VE SPOKEN TO BOTH, UH, JERRY AND RICK FERRELL ABOUT THIS.

I ACTUALLY TALKED TO RICK ABOUT IT TODAY.

UM, THERE IS GRANT FUNDING OUT THERE FOR DRY HYDRANTS.

SO WHILE IT WON'T BE INCLUDED IN THE ACTUAL PROJECT BUDGET, THAT'S BEING SUBMITTED TO DUPONT, I DO FEEL LIKE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD EASILY IMPLEMENT.

BRING THE, I HAVE A QUESTION ON MORGAN FORD.

DID WE RESOLVE THE LIGHTING ISSUE? LIKE WHETHER IT WAS GOING TO BE LOW, WHETHER IT WAS GOING TO BE HIGH, BECAUSE THAT WAS A CONCERN WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING OF A LOT IN THE RESIDENTS.

DID WE RESOLVE THAT AS PLAN? WE'VE AGREED TO BUMP IT DOWN TO APPROXIMATELY TWO LIGHTS, MAINLY ONE, RIGHT AT THE RAMP SO THAT IF SOMEBODY GETS STUCK IN A RAINSTORM OR IT TAKES THEM A HALF AN HOUR LONGER TO FLOAT DOWN THE RIVER THAN THEY EXPECTED, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THEIR BOAT OUT OF THE WATER, THAT THEY CAN SEE WHERE THEY'RE BACKING UP, OR THEY CAN SEE THEIR KIDS AS THEY'RE GETTING OUT OF THE WATER.

UH, WE DO MAYBE ONE ADDITIONAL LIGHT AS THEIR LEAD TO THE PARKING AREA.

UM, BUT WE WILL DO A LIGHTING STUDY AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS THAT WILL BASICALLY DETERMINE, UM, THAT WE'RE NOT CAUSING LIGHT POLLUTION.

WE'RE NOT AFFECTING THE WILDLIFE, WE'RE NOT AFFECTING LOCAL RESIDENTS.

UM, I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE VERY MINIMAL.

THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE HUGE SPOTLIGHTS SHOT IN ALL OVER THE FACILITY.

THAT WAS A CONCERN OF THE ME, IF YOU RECALL, I JUST WANTED TO FIND OUT THE STATUS OF THAT.

AND ARE YOU GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SOLAR LINING THERE INSTEAD OF, UH, ELECTRICAL LIGHTING, UH, WITH THE TREE LINE? I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO DO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD GET ENOUGH SUNLIGHT REALLY TO CHARGE THE LIGHTS AND STAY LIT.

UM, IF WE CAN GET AWAY WITH THAT, I THINK IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL, BUT AGAIN, THE LIGHTING IS EXPENSIVE AS WELL WHEN IT WOULD BE THE LIGHTING THAT WE'RE PUTTING UP AT THOMPSON KISSING RIDE WAS, WAS CHEAPER.

UM, BUT IT DEFINITELY HAD AN OPENING LARGE ENOUGH FOR THE LIGHTS TO CHARGE DURING THE DAYTIME.

UH, THE APPALACHIAN TRAIL CONNECTOR, UM, IS THE NEXT PROJECT.

IT'S A, ROUGHLY TWO MILE TRAIL THAT BEGINS AT THE TOWN COUNTY LIGHT ON REMOTE ROAD.

UH, THE FIRST PHASE RUNS ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROADWAY TO CONSERVATION DRIVE, WHICH IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE FOR THE SMITHSONIAN CONSERVATION BIOLOGY INSTITUTE.

UH, THE SECOND PHASE CONTINUES FROM THERE, TERMINATING AT THE TRAIL HEAD OF THE APPALACHIAN TRAIL CONNECTOR.

UM, A MORE DEFINED BUDGET FOR THIS PROJECT IS BEING DEVELOPED.

UM, BUT IT HAS RECEIVED $527,000 IN GRANT FUNDING, UH, FROM THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION.

UM, ADDITIONAL FUNDING WILL BE APPLIED FOR, TO ASSIST WITH THE CONSTRUCTION.

UH, THIS IS A VERY LARGE PROJECT.

THIS IS, THIS IS REALLY JUST THE FIRST PHASE OF IT.

UM, A TWO MILE TRAIL IS NOT SOMETHING CHEAP TO BUILD.

IT WILL BE ALL ENVIED OUT RIGHT AWAY.

SO WE WON'T HAVE ANY LAND ACQUISITION COSTS.

UM, BUT THERE IS SOME CONCERNS WITH WHAT LANDS WE'RE TRYING TO SEPARATE PEOPLE FROM THE WILD ROADWAY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, UH, WHILE ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS OF SCBI THAT WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE GETTING TOO CLOSE TO THEIR ENDANGERED SPECIES.

UH, HABITATS.

NOW YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS 527 K WORTH OF FUNDING ALREADY.

DO WE ALREADY HAVE THAT? WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO, WE'LL HAVE TO SPEND IT AND APPLY FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

UM, SO, UM, IT COMES FROM THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION THAT'S ADMINISTERED BY DOT, UM, IT'S THE SAME FUNDING THAT WE'VE USED FOR ALL OF THE EASTERN PARK TRAILS.

SINCE THAT TIME DUE TO COVID.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

UH, JUST TO VERY QUICKLY GO OVER A COUPLE.

UM, THIS IS THE SPLASH PAD THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED ON, THEN WE'LL CONSTRUCT IT IN AN OPEN AND OCTOBER, 2019.

UH, IT WAS ROUGHLY A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PAID FOR, FROM SEVERAL GRANTS, INCLUDING 15,000 FROM THE DOMINION FOUNDATION.

UM, ALMOST 13,000 FROM THE WARREN COALITION AND 6,000 FROM THE ROTARY CLUB OF FRONT ROYAL.

UM, IT DID OPEN IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, BUT IT'S BEEN CLOSED

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UM, THIS WAS KIND OF ABOUT 90% THROUGH CONSTRUCTION.

WE ENDED UP ADDING SOME LANDSCAPING AND SOD AND STUFF LIKE THAT AS WELL.

WE'VE ALSO SEALED AND, UH, COLORED THE CONCRETE, A NICE BLUE COLOR.

SO, UM, ONCE WE WERE ABLE TO OPEN IT, I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A FACILITY THAT'S USED A LOT.

UM, EVERYBODY'S SEEN THE LOVE WORK SIGN, UH, WHILE THIS PROJECT IS ON HOLD.

I DID WANT TO MENTION IT AS WE DID INVEST QUITE A BIT OF TIME IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF IT.

UH, WHETHER WE GO WITH THIS DESIGNER, THIS LOCATION, UM, OR NOT, I REALLY THINK IT'S A VERY NEAT PROJECT TO HOPE THAT SEE THE, IT GETS IMPLEMENTED SOMEWHERE.

UM, BUT A LOT OF THOUGHT WENT INTO IT.

UH, JOE PETTY WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT PUT IN A LOT OF WORK PROBABLY MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE.

UH, SO I REALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT.

WE'VE DONE A LOT OF SMALL SCALE RENOVATIONS LATELY.

THE TOP LEFT PICTURE IS THE FORMER VOTER REGISTRAR OFFICE WHERE OUR FINANCE OFFICE IS NOW LOCATED.

UH, THE BOTTOM LEFT IS ACTUALLY A WORK IN PROGRESS.

WE ARE WORKING ON THE CAFETERIA AT THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES COMPLEX FOR THE THERMAL SHELTER.

SO WE'RE REPAINTING, UM, AND REALLY CLEANING UP THE SPACE, ENSURING THAT IT HAS PROPER FIRE, EXTINGUISHERS, EXIT LIGHTING, UM, AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

WE'D LIKE FOR THEM TO BE AS COMFORTABLE AS POSSIBLE THERE WE'VE GOTTEN A WASHER AND DRYER THAT WE'VE ADDED AND HOOKED UP.

SO THERE'LL BE ABLE TO USE THAT.

UM, ALSO ENSURING THAT JUST THE WHOLE FACILITY IS, IS UP TO STANDARDS WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.

UH, THE RIGHT PICTURE IS THE FORMER EDDIE'S LAUNDRY MAT.

A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, WE FINISHED THE ASBESTOS REMEDIATION, UM, AND THAT BUILDING, UM, AND HAVE BASICALLY GUTTED IT ONCE WE FIGURE OUT, UM, WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN MOVING INTO THE SPACE, EXCUSE ME, THAT'S THE ONE BEHIND US OVER HERE? YES, SIR.

UH, IT HAS TWO APARTMENTS ABOVE IT THAT WE CURRENTLY RENT.

UM, ONCE WE KNOW WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS OR ANYBODY WHO IS INTERESTED IN IT, IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO START RENOVATING THE INSIDE.

SOME, UH, WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO TOO MUCH WITH IT UNTIL WE FIGURED OUT, UM, WHO WAS INTERESTED IN THAT.

AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT, IS THE OFFICE AREA FOR SOCIAL SERVICES.

UH, ONE OF THE LARGEST PROJECTS THAT WE'VE TAKEN ON THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IS THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES COMPLEX.

UH, THIS IS THE FORMER MIDDLE SCHOOL ON, UM, 15TH STREET.

OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE INVESTED OVER $12 MILLION IN THIS BUILDING TO RENOVATE THE GYMNASIUM, INSTALL A NEW ROOF, INSTALL ETHOS ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, NEW WINDOWS, UM, ADDED AND IMPROVED PARKING AREAS, UH, RENOVATED SPACES FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, SOCIAL SERVICES, VOTER REGISTRAR, UH, WARREN COUNTY, PUBLIC SCHOOLS, DIVERSIFIED MINDS AND SPECIAL SERVICES PROGRAMS. UM, AND THE COURTYARD PLAYGROUND.

WE ALSO GET, UM, RENT RENT FROM VSS AND I GUESS, PUBLIC HEALTH TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THAT HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND DSS DO PAY RENT ON THAT.

UM, AND I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF YEARS THAT THE REPAYMENT WILL TAKE, BUT THAT RENT WILL GO BACK, UM, TO DIRECTLY FUND THE RENOVATIONS THAT WE DID FOR THEIR SPACES UP.

PRETTY GOOD.

UM, IT'S BEEN GREAT.

WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD ANY ROOF LEAKS IN THERE.

UM, IT'S AN OLDER BUILDING, SO EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, WE'LL COME UP WITH, UH, AN HVAC ISSUE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT THE ROOF HAS BEEN FANTASTIC.

UM, ADDING EFS ON OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THE NEW WINDOWS IS ALSO MADE IT A MUCH MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT.

IT'S VERY UNUSUAL FOR A FLAT ROOF TO HOLD UP THAT WELL.

YEAH, SO IT WAS, IT'S, IT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING FACILITY TO, TO REMODEL, UM, THE FINAL SPACES THAT NEED TO BE RENOVATED OR THE MAINTENANCE AND FOOD SERVICES DEPARTMENT FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

UM, THOSE HAVE BEEN SPACE PLAN.

THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COST OF RENOVATING THOSE AREAS.

UM, AND ALSO THE CAFETERIA AND KITCHEN AREAS FOR THE SHANANDOAH AREA AGENCY ON AGING.

UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR GRANT FUNDING FOR THAT SPACE.

IT IS GOING TO BE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS PROBABLY TO RENOVATE IT.

UM, BUT IT COULD CREATE A REALLY GREAT SPACE FOR THEM.

IS IT BIG TM AREAS THAT STAND THE WAY IT IS? IS IT THAT THE SCHOOL PARTICIPATE IN USING IT? YEAH, THEY'RE DIVERSE DIVERSIFIED MINDS AND, UM, SPECIAL SERVICES DO USE THE GYM DURING THE DAY FOR PHYSICAL ACTIVITY.

UH, PARKS AND REC STILL USES IT.

WE CAME IN AND, UM, RENOVATED THE GYM.

WE GOT EVERYTHING PAINTED.

WE FIXED THE BLEACHERS, UH, REFINISH THE FLOORS.

WE RENOVATED THE TWO BATHROOMS IN THE FRONT TO MAKE THE BATHROOMS ADA ACCESSIBLE.

UM, SO IT'S ACTUALLY A PRETTY NICE SPACE, RIGHT? NO, AND WAS ALSO USED FOR, UM, HOUSING, THE HOMELESS SHELTER SPACE LAST YEAR.

UH, WE HAVE MOVED THAT INTO THE CAFETERIA SPACE.

THE GYM HONESTLY WAS A LITTLE BIT TOO BIG FOR THEM.

UM, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF EASIER TO, FOR SOMEBODY TO BE THERE AT NIGHT AND WATCHING EVERYBODY IN THE SMALLER SPACE.

UM, IT ALSO FREES UP OUR GYM FOR PARKS AND REC ACTIVITIES.

UH, THESE ARE JUST A FEW PICTURES FROM SOME OF THE RENOVATION WORK.

THIS WAS DURING THE SOCIAL SERVICES AND HEALTH DEPARTMENT RENOVATION.

UH, THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS OBVIOUSLY THE NEW ENTRANCE THAT WAS ADDED.

UH, THE TOP RIGHT, IS THE LAB FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT

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UM, I WANTED TO WALK YOU GUYS THROUGH JUST REAL QUICK, LIKE OUR TYPICAL PROCESS FOR SOME OF OUR RENOVATIONS.

UM, WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS A SPACE NEEDS ANALYSIS, UM, FOR THE POSSIBLE EXPANSION OF OUR COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UH, STAFF WORK WITH OUR ARCHITECT ARCHITECT AND DEVELOP A NEEDS ANALYSIS THAT WAS SERVED.

THE OFFICES NEED THROUGH 2040, AND THIS IS KIND OF WHAT YOU COME UP WITH.

A, YOU LOOK AT YOUR PERSONNEL NEEDS OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.

UH, THE TYPICAL SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR EACH OF THOSE POSITIONS, UM, AND BASICALLY PLAN OUT HOW MANY SQUARE FEET YOU'RE GOING TO NEED, UM, THROUGH 2040.

SO WE TAKE THAT AND WE CAN COME AND DO A SPACE PLAN.

THIS IS ACTUALLY THE OLD WORK-RELEASE BUILDING.

THIS IS THE FIRST FLOOR WHERE WE'VE SPACE PLANNED FOR OFFICES, UH, CONFERENCE ROOM, THE VICTIM WITNESS COORDINATOR PARALEGALS.

UM, AND THEN YOU GET INTO THE SECOND FLOOR, WHICH AGAIN, DUPLICATES MANY OF THOSE SPACES.

UM, OUR NEXT STEP IN THIS PROCESS WILL BE, UM, TO GET AN ESTIMATE ON WHAT IT WOULD COST TO RENOVATE THIS BUILDING, TO ACCOMMODATE THESE SPACES.

UM, IF WE DECIDE THAT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, WE'LL GET, UM, WE'LL DO AN INVITATION FOR BIDS AND REALLY GET THAT OUT AND START GETTING FINAL PRICING, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RENOVATION.

WHAT ABOUT THE, UM, CAUSE I KNOW THIS WAS DISCUSSED AT OUR LAST MEETING WORK SESSION AND I THINK THAT DR.

DALEY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THERE WAS SPACE ON THE THIRD FLOOR.

I THINK MAYBE YOU MET THE OLD JAIL.

THE SECOND FLOOR OF COURT HOLDING.

I DID GO LOOK AT THAT SPACE, UM, THIS SPACE BECAUSE IT'S TWO LEVELS.

WE CAN PROVIDE A DUPLICATION OF SERVICE ON EACH LEVEL, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT IN AN ELEVATOR OR MAKE THE SECOND FLOOR ADA ACCESSIBLE.

UM, AS LONG AS WE CAN PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT SOMEBODY THAT NEEDS THE ADA ACCOMMODATIONS ON THE FIRST FLOOR, THE SECOND FLOOR, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO IT.

THE SECOND FLOOR COURT HOLDING SINCE THE ONLY ACCESS IS THROUGH THE STAIRWAY OFF EAST JACKSON, UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY INSTALL IN AN ELEVATOR TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT SPACE.

SO, UH, WE COULD CERTAINLY MAKE, OR WE CAN PAY FOR THAT IF EVERYBODY WANTS TO, BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY COST QUITE A BIT MORE MONEY TO RENOVATE THAT SPACE AND GET THE ELEVATOR IN THERE.

SO WHICH BUILDING ARE WE REFERENCING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RENOVATING FOR THIS? THIS IS WHAT I CALL IT, THE WRONG ONE EIGHTIES JACKSON, IT'S THE FORMER WORK RELEASE BUILDING.

UM, I THINK THERE'S A BEAUTY SHOP LIKE RIGHT DOWN FROM THERE.

UM, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY A PRETTY SIZABLE SPACE.

WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO REALLY MESS WITH THE ENVELOPE OF THE BUILDING OR MUCH OF THE LOAD BEARING, UH, WALLS AND STUFF.

UM, SO IT'S A COMPLETE GUT.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REPLACE ALL THE ELECTRICAL HVAC AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT LIKE I SAID, IT IS WE COULD MAKE IT ADA ACCESSIBLE, UH, WITHOUT THE ADDITION OF THE ELEVATOR AND, UH, HOPEFULLY MINIMIZE THE COST ON THAT END.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S GOING TO BE A BETTER SPACE THAN WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT OVER THERE.

THIS IS EITHER ONE OF THEM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IN AS BEST AS ABATEMENT AND PROBABLY LED PAINT AS WELL.

UM, SO WE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO INVEST A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO GET THAT DONE IN ANY OLDER FACILITY.

IN OUR PREVIOUS WORK SESSION, WE WERE SPEAKING ABOUT THE JAIL, THE FORMER JAIL, AND THEN THERE, THEN THERE'S THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET ON JACKSON.

THAT'S ALSO SPACE THAT IS AVAILABLE.

IT IS, THAT HAS BEEN MARKED TO EVENTUALLY BE TORN DOWN FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING.

UM, AND THEN QUITE A BIT FARTHER DOWN THE ROAD.

UM, IT WOULD BE THE SITE FOR THE NEW JDR COURT.

UH, JUST A COUPLE OTHER QUICK PROJECTS.

WE HAVE THE REROOFING OF THE NORTH WARREN VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.

UH, LAST YEAR WE WENT THROUGH AND DID A LOT OF WORK ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, INCLUDING EMS, REPAIRS AND REPAINTING.

UM, WE NOW HAVE AN APPROVED CONTRACT TO REROOF THE PROJECT FOR 105,000.

UM, WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS SET ASIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE NOW.

UM, AND THAT FUNDING, UM, IS FROM THE PROFFERS ASSOCIATED WITH BLUE RIDGE SHADOWS.

UM, SO IT CAN ONLY BE USED FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR THIS STATION.

SO WE DO ALREADY HAVE THE MONEY IN HAND.

THE CONTRACT IS WITH OUR ATTORNEYS RIGHT NOW, AS SOON AS THAT IS FINISHED, IT'LL, UH, ACTUALLY WE'LL BE READY TO DO THE NOTICE TO PROCEED, UH, FIREARM RESCUE TRAINING FACILITY.

UM, I WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH FIRE AND RESCUE ON THE DESIGN AND, UM, BIT OF THIS PROJECT.

UM, EVENTUALLY IT SHOULD BE LOCATED OUT AT THE ESA LANE PROPERTY.

UM, NOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN SOME OF THE GRANT RESULTS BACK AND THEY'VE BEEN FAVORABLE, UM, I FEEL LIKE WE MAY BE ABLE TO LOOK INTO MOVING INTO IMPLEMENTING THIS PROJECT NOW.

UM, I KNOW FIRE MARSHALL MADEC, WHO HAD TALKED ABOUT GETTING A COMMITTEE TOGETHER, UM, AND DISCUSSING WHETHER OR NOT WE WILL STILL UTILIZE THIS TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION OR IF WE'LL, WE'LL GO INTO A MORE TYPICAL CONSTRUCTION AND, UM, GO AFTER SOME GRANT FUNDING FOR

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IT.

THEY'RE IN THE SAME SPACE IT'S BEEN CONSIDERED.

AND OUR CUP IS GOOD FOR ANOTHER YEAR.

UM, SO, UM, I THINK WE'LL BE READY TO GO ON THAT IF, IF WE CAN FINALIZE THE DESIGN AND WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDING AND WE'LL GET IT BACK OUT TO BID AGAIN, I THINK HE TOLD ME THAT THIS DESIGN WOULD LAST ABOUT 10 YEARS.

I BELIEVE THAT'S ROUGHLY HOW MUCH IT IS.

THE GOOD PART ABOUT THESE TYPES OF DESIGNS, WHETHER THEY GO WITH THEM OR NOT, UM, IS IF ONE OF THOSE CONTAINERS WAS, WAS TO BURN OUT OR THEY NEEDED A REPLACEMENT ALLOW THE TIME YOU CAN REPLACE ONE OF THEM AND NOT THE ENTIRE THING.

UM, BUT I THINK NOW THEY MAY BE LOOKING AT MORE OF A BRICK AND MORTAR SOLUTION, UM, IF THEY CAN FIND THE GRANT FUNDING TO PAY FOR IT.

UH, FINALLY OUR BIG PROJECT IS RIVERMONT FIRE DEPARTMENT.

UM, THE PROJECT KICKED OFF IN THE SUMMER OF 2019 SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED IN THE FALL OF THIS YEAR.

UM, I'D SAY WE'RE ABOUT 95% COMPLETE.

UH, THE CONSTRUCTION COST IS ABOUT 5.6 MILLION AND THAT INCLUDES THE FIRE STATION, A MULTI-PURPOSE SPACE THAT WILL BE USED FOR, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT FUNDRAISING AND EVENTS ALONG WITH A POLLING PLACE.

UH, THE BUILDING IS ABOUT 1500 SQUARE FEET.

UM, AND I THINK WE'RE HOPING TOWARD THE MIDDLE ISH OF NOVEMBER TO HAVE THE RIBBON CUTTING ON THAT, UM, AND EVENTUALLY AN OPEN HOUSE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO THERE'S AN UPDATED PICTURE OF THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING SINCE THE RED HAS BEEN ADDED 1500 SQUARE FEET OR 15,000.

SORRY IF I MISSPOKE, UH, JUST A COUPLE MORE PICTURES FOR YOU.

THE LEFT IS THE APPARATUS BAY.

UM, WORK ON THAT IS JUST ABOUT DONE TOP RIGHT CORNER IS THE GYM.

UH, THEY HAVE HAD EQUIPMENT, UM, DONATED, SO THAT'S BEEN GREAT.

UM, AND THE BOTTOM IS THE TURNOUT GEAR, UH, ROOM OFF THE APPARATUS.

SO I WILL STOP TALKING NOW.

UM, I PROBABLY TALK A LITTLE MORE THAN I NEEDED TO, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS HAD A FULL AWARENESS OF WHAT MY DEPARTMENT WORKS ON, UH, WHAT OUR BUDGET CONTAINS, UM, AND REALLY WHAT WE THOUGHT OUR CHALLENGES WERE COMING UP ON THEIR OLD STATION AND THE PROPERTY THAT THEY HAVE, UM, SINCE THEY OWN IT, I HAVEN'T REALLY HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM ABOUT THEIR INTENTIONS OF IT.

SOMETIMES THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT SELLING IT OTHER TIMES, TURNING IT INTO LIKE A, LIKE A PARK AREA.

UM, I CAN CERTAINLY REACH OUT TO FIRE RESCUE AND RIVERMONT STAFF.

WE'LL FIND OUT TO DISCUSS THAT.

OKAY, DID WE EVER GET THEM A COST ANALYSIS OF, UH, HOW MUCH IT WAS GOING TO COST THEM TO, TO HEAT THE BUILDING AND COOL.

IT, I KNOW THAT I BELIEVE OUR PROJECT MANAGER PROVIDED HIM WITH THAT INFORMATION.

THEY REQUESTED IT FROM OUR ARCHITECT.

UM, AND WHILE IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A GUESSTIMATE, UM, I BELIEVE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THEM SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.

UM, IN THE COMING MONTHS, WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA HAVE TO HAMMER OUT A LEASE FOR THEM.

UH, THAT'LL BE SIMILAR TO SOMETHING LIKE A NORTH WARREN THAT OUTLINES WHAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR AS FAR AS UTILITY PAYMENTS OR, OR UTILITY COSTS, UM, REPAIRS, THAT TYPE OF STUFF, AND WHAT THE COUNTY WILL ACTUALLY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

AND I TALKED WITH ONE OF THE MEMBERS, UM, THIS PAST WEEKEND AND THEY WERE SAYING THEY STILL DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF, OF THAT.

AND IT'S WORRISOME FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY BEEN PROVIDED THE DRAFT CONTRACT FOR NORTH WARREN.

UM, AND REALLY, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE SIMILAR TO THAT.

UM, BUT I WILL CERTAINLY START WORKING WITH OUR ATTORNEYS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT LEASE, UM, DRAFTED SO THAT THEY CAN LOOK AT IT.

UM, AND WE CAN GET EVERYTHING IN PLACE BEFORE THEY GO INTO THE FUTURE.

AND THE COUNTY OWNS THAT BUILDING NOW JUST LIKE NORTH WARREN, CORRECT? YES.

AND THEN THERE'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RENOVATIONS OTHER COMMUNITY ROOM AND THEY'LL HAVE TO CARRY THEIR OWN INSURANCE ON THE COUNTY POLICY TO THE FIRE.

NOW, THE INSURANCE, I HAVEN'T DISCUSSED WITH THEM, BUT THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OUTFITTING OF THAT SPACE.

SO WE AGREED TO A CERTAIN POINT TO HAVE, UM, THE COMMUNITY SPACE COMPLETED AND CONSTRUCTED.

UM, THEY PAID FOR THE FINISHES OF IT.

SO, UM, YES, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT THEY DID PAY FOR WHAT, LIKE I SAID, THE BUILDING WOULD BE ON THE COUNTY'S INSURANCE AND THEN, UH, THE FIRETRUCKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IT'S NOT OWNED BY THE COUNTY WOULD BE ON THE RIVERMONT.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

YES, THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD WORK.

AND YOU MENTIONED TOO EARLY ON THAT, UM, YOU HAVE MAINTENANCE AND CUSTODIAL SERVICES BEING PROVIDED APPROXIMATELY 30 PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES, BUT YOU DIDN'T REALLY LIST THOSE.

CAN YOU PROVIDE US WITH A LIST OF THOSE BABY? I CAN, I HAVE A SPREADSHEET THAT BREAKS DOWN THE FACILITIES THAT WE OWN AND WHAT WE PROVIDED EACH OF THOSE FACILITIES, WHETHER, AND THEN YOU GOT THIS ONE, YOU'VE GOT THE COURTHOUSE.

WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE, THE COMMERCIAL HOOD THAT'S IN THERE.

LOOKING AT RENTAL PROPERTIES, THE APARTMENTS, THE FISHNET HOUSE, ALL OF THE CONCESSION STANDS AND ALL OF OUR PARKS AND REC FACILITIES, UM, LIKE THE KITCHEN AT BEN CROSBY.

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UH, WE'VE REALLY PICKED UP A LOT OF FACILITIES WOULD JUST BE NICE TO HAVE THAT LIST.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE, AND JUST GET IT TO US, WHATEVER FOR YOU.

WAIT LONG ENOUGH.

WE'LL FORGET ABOUT IT.

WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE? DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THE OVERVIEW FROM PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

NEXT IS

[E. Discussion – Overview of the Public Works Department – Mike Berry]

MIKE, MR. BARRY, MR. CHAIRMAN BOARD MEMBERS.

I CAN TELL YOU MY PICTURES OF TRASH.

WON'T BE AS PRETTY AS THE BUILDING.

UM, TAKE THIS OFF.

LET'S SEE HERE WHEN SOMEBODY, YEAH.

AND I'M HOPING THAT I GET A, UH, A SLIDE UP HERE.

UM, WE WERE HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES EARLIER, BUT, UM, ANYWAY, WE'LL JUST GET STARTED TALKING, UM, SIMILAR TO BRANDY, UM, AND NOT SIMILAR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IS RELATIVELY NEW AND RELATIVELY NOT.

WE'VE HAD PUBLIC WORKS FUNCTIONS FOR YEARS AND YEARS.

UM, WE HAVE HAD REFUSE COLLECTION AND REFUSE DISPOSAL AND STREET SIGNS.

AND IN YEARS PAST STREET SIGNS HAVE BEEN HANDLED BY, UM, REFUSE FOLKS OR THEY'VE BEEN HANDLED BY PARKS AND RECREATION.

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE MORE.

UM, MY HOPE, I THINK LAST WEEK WE HAD SOME GOOD WORK SESSION DISCUSSION ON ONE, UM, SANITARY DISTRICTS AND NPOS.

AND, UM, I'M HOPING THAT I CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF OUR BUDGETS AND HOW THEY FUNCTION AND, AND THE DEPARTMENT IN GENERAL AND WHAT WE DO.

UM, AND I'M GOING TO BREAK IT DOWN KIND OF IN SECTIONS CAUSE, UM, WE HAVE MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE BUDGETS AND, AND MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS.

SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT CLEAN, BUT YOU KNOW, ANYTIME WE TALK ABOUT SANITARY DISTRICTS, THEY KIND OF GETS A LITTLE MESSY, UM, SIMILARLY WITH MY STAFF.

HMM.

LET'S SEE.

OR SO, AND, AND I WANT THIS TO BE HELPFUL.

MR. DALEY HAD MENTIONED AS WE, AS WE APPROACHED THE UPCOMING BUDGET CYCLE, UM, THAT KINDA, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENTS AND SPEAK WITH YOU.

SO FOR ME, UM, I'M A NUMBERS GUY AND I, AND I'M LOOKING AT LOTS OF BUDGETS.

UM, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE, UM, DEPARTMENTAL.

AND WHEN I TALK DEPARTMENTAL, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE REAL PUBLIC WORKS FUNCTIONS THAT ARE COUNTY AND, AND COUNTY BASED BUDGETS WITH YOUR SOLID WASTE, YOUR STREET SIGNS AND YOUR, YOUR PUBLIC WORKS SANITARY DISTRICT BUDGET.

NOW THAT SANITARY DISTRICT BUDGET, SIMILAR TO BRANDY'S, THAT ONE WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2017.

AND THE DIRECTOR POSITION AT THAT TIME WAS UNDER SOLID WASTE THAT MOVED AFTER THAT TIME, OVER TO THE PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET, WE STARTED WITH ONE PERSON WORKING, UM, AND WE HAD ZERO EQUIPMENT.

SO THE BUDGET HAS INCREASED.

I KNOW LAST YEAR, THAT WAS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE RECEIVED.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHY HAVE WE SEEN AN INCREASE THAT BUDGET? IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION YOU'RE STANDING AT ME.

AND OUR BIGGEST BUDGET REFUSE DISPOSAL 2 MILLION, $624,041.

UM, SO IF, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET, I'VE TRIED TO BREAK IT DOWN AND WE'LL GO INTO SOLID WASTE AND WHAT THE DIFFERENT STAFF DOES AND THE PERSONNEL, BUT, UM, IN YOUR, IN YOUR BUDGET GUIDEBOOK, YOU'LL SEE, 40 TO 30, 35 AND 40 TO 40.

THOSE ARE SPECIFIC TO SOLID WASTE.

4,102 OH IS SPECIFIC TO STREET SIGNS.

AND THEN FOR ONE OH ONE SPECIFICALLY DEALS WITH SANITARY DISTRICTS.

UM, I MENTIONED THE AIRPORT AT THIS POINT.

UM, THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE HAS KIND OF CHANGED FOR ME A LITTLE BIT IN RECENT MONTHS.

AND, UM, I USED TO REPORT, UM, TO THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

SO NOW I'M REPORTING TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR DIRECTLY AND I'M OVERSEEING THE COUNTY PORTION OF THE AIRPORT BUDGET AS WELL.

SO I WANT TO BRIEFLY MENTION THAT BECAUSE WE'VE ALSO HAD SOME, UM, INCREASE IN DUTIES THERE AS WE'VE HAD SOME CHANGE AT THE AIRPORT AND WE'RE DOING MORE MAINTENANCE THERE ALSO, AND THIS IS NOT WORKING.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

THERE WE GO.

NOW I'VE GOT TO BACK UP.

I THINK THE WAYNE WAS HELPING ME.

THERE WE GO.

SO THE FIVE DEPARTMENTAL BUDGETS, UM, JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT $4,000,050, 4 MILLION 5,345.

SO OVER $4 MILLION, UM, THE SANITARY DISTRICT $435,301 STREETS AND HIGHWAYS.

THAT'S OUR STREET SIGNS, $20,601 REFUSE COLLECTION, $758,940 REFUSE COLLECTION TRANSFER STATION $211,462.

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AND I'LL TALK ABOUT EACH ONE OF THESE INDEPENDENTLY AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND TRY TO MAKE IT ALL COME TOGETHER IN THE END.

I'M NOT, I'M GETTING DWAYNE HELPED ME BACK HERE.

OR REWORKING THAT SITE? IT IS THE ONE THAT I USE, RIGHT.

SO LOOKING AT AN APARTMENT, UM, BROADLY WE HAVE CURRENTLY 25 PART-TIME AND 11 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.

SO WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD PART-TIME RATIO IN OUR DEPARTMENT, 70% PART-TIME EMPLOYEES, UM, FULL-TIME POSITIONS, UM, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR OF COURSE, IS FULL-TIME AND OUR SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE FOUR FULL-TIME.

WE HAVE OUR SOLID WASTE MANAGER, TWO FULL-TIME EQUIPMENT OPERATORS, AND ONE FULL-TIME SCALE HOUSE ATTENDANT.

WE HAVE 25 PART-TIME EMPLOYEES, 23 SITE ATTENDANCE, ONE PART-TIME SCALE HOUSE ATTENDANT AND ONE PART-TIME MAINTENANCE PERSON, UM, IN THE STREETS TRY AND PROGRAM.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY FULL-TIME STAFF AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY DEDICATED STAFF IN THE BUDGET.

WE HAVE PERSONNEL LISTED THERE.

AS I MENTIONED, IT'S BEEN DONE BY DIFFERENT FOLKS OVER THE YEARS, CURRENTLY, THE, THE FOLKS OUT OF THE SANITARY DISTRICT, OUR PART, OUR PUBLIC WORKS SANITARY DISTRICT STAFF ARE DOING THE STREETS ON SITE.

SO, AND AT THE AIRPORT, OUR PUBLIC WORKS SANITARY DISTRICT STAFF IS ALSO DOING THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY WORK.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH KSA AIR FOR THE FBO AND THE, IN THE MANAGEMENT ON THEIR END.

SO WE'LL CONTINUE ON AND JUST STOP ME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AGAIN, SOLID WAY SELL.

I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE ABOUT SOLID WASTE NOW.

AND WHEN YOU HEAR THE TERMS, REFUSE COLLECTION, REFUSE DISPOSAL CLOSED LANDFILL OR RECYCLING.

ALL THOSE WILL BE DEALING WITH SOLID WASTE.

AND THAT'S OUR BROAD TERM, UM, WITHIN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR CITIZEN CONVENIENCE CENTERS, REFUSE COLLECTION CONSISTS OF TWO BUDGETS.

UM, THAT'LL CONSIST OF 42, 30 AND 42 35.

WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR BUDGETS, WE HAVE OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

WE HAVE ONE MANAGER, OUR SOLID WASTE MANAGER, AND THEN AT EACH LOCATION AT LINDEN CONVENIENCE SITE, RACLETTE SHADOW FARMS, COOLEY CONVENIENCE SITE, AND THE TRANSFER STATION COMING TO SITE.

WE HAVE COMPACTOR OPERATORS OR CONVENIENCE SITE ATTENDANCE, AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THOSE PART-TIME EMPLOYEES ARE WORKING.

THEY, UH, WELL, THE TRANSFER STATION, AS YOU KNOW, I MEAN IS OPEN SIX DAYS A WEEK, ACTUALLY SEVEN.

UM, BUT ON THE CONVENIENCE SITES THAT WE'RE OPEN SIX.

UM, SO WE HAVE MEN WORKING IN SOLID WAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

THIS IS JUST AN AERIAL OF OUR LYNDA CONVENIENT SITE.

AND WELL, IT WAS AN AERIAL OF OUR LANDACADEMY SITE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GET BACK.

LET'S SEE.

HE WENT AND GOT ME.

UM, THIS IS THE NEWEST SITE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN ANY FUTURE SITES.

UM, THE BEAUTY OF THIS SITE IS WE DO HAVE DUAL COMPACTORS AND IF ANYONE USES, UM, THE COLI SITE, YOU KNOW, THAT IT GETS OVERRAN AND, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT, UM, MY CONCERNS AS WE MOVE FORWARD, BUT HOPEFULLY ANY SITES THAT WE DO IN THE FUTURE, WE'LL HAVE TWO COMPACTORS AND, AND A DEDICATED, RECYCLE AREA THAT YOU CAN MANEUVER THROUGH.

THERE'S JUST A COUPLE OF PHOTOS.

THAT'S A PHOTO ON THE RIGHT OF OUR ROCKLEDGE COMPACTOR.

THAT'S A VERY BUSY SITE AS WELL.

I'M IN THE SOUTH RIVER DISTRICT AND SOME, UM, SOME OF OUR RECYCLED CONTAINERS ON THE LEFT SIDE AND, AND THIS IS TOUGH TO READ, UM, BUT STRAIGHT OUT OF OUR, UM, BUDGET BOOK, UM, WE MENTIONED ALL THE, UH, WELL EARLIER THE 42 30 REFUSE COLLECTION BUDGET $758,940.

UM, MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE BUDGET, UM, COMES DOWN TO PART-TIME PEOPLE AND TRASH.

UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF EXPENSE, UM, ON THOSE REFUSE COLLECTION BUDGETS.

YES, SIR.

THE TRASH IS BEING DEPORTED DOWN TO SHANNON FROM BATTLE CREEK LANDFILL DOWN, IS THAT THE COSTS ARE THAT STATE OF STEADY INCREASE.

IT HAS INCREASED.

AND I'LL, I'LL GET TO THAT HERE IN A SECOND.

UM, WHEN WE GET, BUT FROM THE CONVENIENCE SITES, UM, ALL THE TRASH FROM THE FOUR LOCATIONS, SATELLITE COKE LOCATIONS WILL TRAVEL TO OUR TRANSFER STATION FIRST.

AND MR. FOX IS CORRECT AFTER THAT, WE WILL LOAD IT AND WE WILL SEND IT TO BATTLE CREEK LANDFILL AND PAIGE COUNTY.

MIKE, CAN I ASK YOU SINCE WE'RE ON REFUGE COLLECTION, WE SITE, IS THERE ANY, UM, FUTURE EXPANSION

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AND IT'S A HECTIC, WELL, THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF MY, YOU KNOW, I HAVE SOME BRIEF CONCERNS AND NEEDS HERE TOWARD THE END.

UM, AND NO, NO, NO, NO.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I THINK I'M ALMOST THERE.

WHOOPS.

I THINK DWAYNE, WE'RE WORKING AGAINST EACH OTHER NOW, UM, FUTURE GROWTH.

UM, THAT'S ONE OF MY CONCERNS AND THE ONLY, WELL, I, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE YEAR NOW THAT IT WENT OFF THE CIP, BUT IT WASN'T THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND THE QUARRY WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO DONATE PROPERTY AND WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO RELOCATE AND ACTUALLY EXPAND, YOU KNOW, RIGHT THERE, BUT IT CHANGED OWNERSHIP.

THE COURT CHANGED HANDS AND THAT DEAL WENT OUT THE WINDOW.

UM, THAT CONVENIENCE SITE DOES MORE WASTE THAN TRASH THAN ANY OTHER LOCATION.

UM, WE WILL DO AT LEAST A COMPACTOR A DAY.

SO IT IS AT CAPACITY OR BEYOND AT THIS POINT.

AND IT IS IT'S REALLY TIGHT.

UM, I MEAN WE HAVE MULTIPLE SATURDAYS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THAT WE WILL PULL TWO COMPACTORS IN ONE DAY AT THAT LOCATION.

UM, THE LOCATION IS SUCH IN A GOOD WAY FOR THE COUNTY.

WE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF OUT ON, ON THAT SIDE, A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT.

SO IF SOMEBODY'S COMING FROM BROWNTOWN ROAD OR OUT IN THE FORK DISTRICT, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BACKTRACK, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FROM CHESTER GAP, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BACK TRACK DOWN TOWARD THE CAVERNS.

IF THEY'RE HITTING THE APPLEBEE'S OR THE WALMART, THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH IT'S ON THE WAY AND THEY'RE GOING TO PULL AROUND.

SO I THINK WE GET TRASH FLOW FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTY, UM, THAT, THAT WILL GO OUT THERE.

AND IT'S JUST, IT'S SO CONVENIENT THAT WE GET MORE TRASH THERE.

I MEAN, IT'LL, IT'LL DO MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT SHANA FARMER FARMS DOES.

UM, EACH YEAR.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S WAY ABOVE EVERY OTHER LOCATION IN TONAGE.

UM, THE ONE THING THAT IT, IT IS NOT, UM, IN LINE WITH IS RECYCLE.

AND I DO BELIEVE THAT IS SITE-BASED ALSO BECAUSE HE DO NOT HAVE THE ROOM REALLY TO GET OVER, ESPECIALLY IF THE PARKING LOT IS FULL.

UM, WE HAVE THE BUS TRAFFIC THERE NOW ALSO.

SO IF YOU'RE TRYING TO COME IN AND YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE STACKED UP IN A LINE OF TRAFFIC TRYING TO THROW AWAY THE WASTE, I THINK IT DISCOURAGES PEOPLE FROM ACTUALLY RECYCLING AT THAT LOCATION.

UM, AND I DO THINK THAT SOME PEOPLE TOSS THINGS BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST SO CONGEST, IT JUST IGNITED PARKING FOR THE RECYCLE, WHICH MAKES THINGS KIND OF CHAOTIC WHEN YOU GO IN, BECAUSE THE CARS ARE PARKED WHEREVER THEY WANT.

AND PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO BACK IN BACK OUT THE AROUND.

SO THAT'S THE YEAH.

AND I, YEAH, I'VE, I'VE MENTIONED THAT THE LAST FEW YEARS, YOU KNOW, I'VE DISCUSSED IT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I REALLY THINK, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE ANY MORE DEVELOPMENT AT ALL ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN, UM, WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AND CONSIDER FINDING A MORE SUITABLE LOCATION THAT WE CAN KIND OF SPREAD IT OUT.

UM, IT'D PROBABLY BE BETTER TO BE A LITTLE LESS CONVENIENT WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SPREAD OUT ON THE GROUND A LITTLE BIT AND, AND CONTROL.

WE ALSO HAVE, UM, TROUBLE WITH PEOPLE, DUMPING STUFF AT THAT LOCATION.

THAT'S THE WORST.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE CAMERAS THERE.

UM, BUT OFTEN, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL GO AROUND THE BACK OF THE FACILITY AND DUMP, UM, LARGE FURNITURE.

UM, UM, I WANT TO THANK THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

THEY HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD ABOUT HELPING US, UM, AND, AND MONITORING.

AND IF WE HAVE INSTANCES, THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO HELP US WITH THAT.

UM, SO WE, WE, I, I AGREE WITH YOU.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE FUTURE, UM, AND, AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO THERE.

UM, WE, WE DO HAVE PLANS, UM, FOR SHENANDOAH FORMS, CONVENIENCE SITE, UM, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THE ENGINEERING AND, UM, ACTUALLY HAVE SOME PRELIMINARY DESIGN.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE FORWARD AT THIS POINT OR NOT.

I KNOW WE'VE TRIED TO PUT SOME OF OUR STUFF ON HOLD, BUT, UM, I THINK, UM, THE INITIAL AND PRELIMINARY DESIGNS LOOK REALLY GOOD.

SO I THINK THAT COULD BE A GOOD THING AND IT COULD IMPROVE RECYCLING, UM, CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE RECYCLING IN SHADOW FARMS CURRENTLY, BUT THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

I PROBABLY DON'T NEED YOUR HELP WITH THAT.

UM, I THINK WE OUGHT TO GO SEE THE KOREAN OR AGAIN.

IS, UM, RECYCLING, UM, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, IN 2017, THE CHINESE REALLY TIGHTENED UP, UM, UM, AND YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE WORLD'S RECYCLING WAS GOING THERE.

BUT, UM, ANOTHER PROBLEM I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT

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SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT COST INCREASES DUE TO SUCH, UM, OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, UM, SOUTHERN SCRAP IS WHERE WE TOOK MOST SERVICE CYCLING.

MR. WILLIAMS HAS BEEN IN THE PROCESS OF CLOSING DOWN FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW.

UM, MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE USING THEM HAVE STARTED TO GO ELSEWHERE.

WE'VE HAD TO START HAULING PLASTICS TO MY NASA'S IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

UM, A LOT OF THE SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS ONLY ACCEPT NUMBER ONES AND TWOS BECAUSE THAT'S PRIMARILY THE MARKABLE PLASTIC JUST BECAUSE IT'S BAD.

LUCKILY OUR, UM, CONTRACTOR REPUBLIC SERVICES THAT PULLS OUR CANS FOR US.

UM, THEY DO HAVE FACILITIES IN MANASSEH.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO COLLECT ONE THROUGH SEVEN, WITH EXCEPTION, EXCEPTION OF STYROFOAM, UM, CARDBOARD.

WE USED TO GET SOME CREDIT, UM, THE REBATE FOR NOW WE PAY TO GET RID OF OUR CARDBOARD.

UM, SO, UM, AND YOU KNOW, A LITTLE OFF TOPIC, BUT THE, IN THE, THE REGIONAL COMMISSION, I'M ON THE SOLID WASTE COMMITTEE, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE RECENTLY IN RECENT YEARS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS STUDY AND JUST LOOKING AT OPTIONS IT'S COMING TOGETHER AND REALLY DETERMINED.

IT'S BETTER FOR PRIVATE INDUSTRY TO DO THAT TYPE OF THING.

UM, UH, RIDGE RUNNER CONTAINER AND FREDERICK COUNTY IS ACTUALLY STARTING UP, UM, SOME RECYCLING WITH CARDBOARD, UM, FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS AND LOOKING TO EXPAND.

THEY HAVE A LOCATION IN PLACE AND THEY'RE HOPING TO START ACCEPTING MORE MATERIALS IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

UM, SO I DO THINK THERE'LL BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES IN THE FUTURE, UM, WHERE LOCALLY, YOU KNOW, THE MARKET REALLY HASN'T OPENED BACK UP YET, BUT THE PEOPLE CAN SEE, THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO, TO RECYCLE AND TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND PUT LESS THAN LANDFILL.

SO WE CONTINUE TO WATCH WHAT'S HAPPENING, BUT AGAIN, THERE IS AN INCREASE, BUT WE HAVE SEEN, AND I MENTIONED IN MY REPORT, WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN OUR CONVENIENCE SITES AND RECYCLING.

SO WE HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN A DIP.

UM, ALTHOUGH SOME OF THE THINGS HAVE WENT OFF TRACK, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THAT.

WE MAY ABLE TO FIND OUTLETS FOR IT AND WE'VE SEEN PEOPLE INCREASE THEIR RECYCLING.

SO I TH I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SIGN.

UM, OTHER THAN THE BUDGETARY INCREASE, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, INCREASES EACH YEAR, UM, WHEN ALL OF OUR SOLID WASTE BUDGETS, UM, THROUGH OUR CONTRACT, WE HAVE A CPI ADJUSTMENT UP TO 5%.

SO THE HAULING AND DISPOSAL, UM, THEY CAN ALL BE ADJUSTED ANNUALLY.

SO THE FUEL PRICE BEING THAT HELPS A LITTLE BIT, CAUSE WE HAVE FUEL FEE.

SO THAT HELPS SOMEWHAT, IT USUALLY DOESN'T GO UP AS MUCH.

UM, WE HAVE SEEN INCREASED TONNAGE.

I MENTIONED THAT LAST WEEK ALSO, UM, WE SAW, YOU KNOW, IN THE SPRING TIME, ESPECIALLY WITH COVID PEOPLE CLEANING OUT, EVEN AT THE LITTLE SITES WE SAW INCREASE, YOU KNOW, WASTE COMING TO THE FACILITIES.

SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE BUDGET, BUDGETARY CONCERNS THAT I HAVE AS WE GET THROUGH THIS FISCAL YEAR.

I MEAN, LAST YEAR WE WERE, UM, YOU KNOW, OVER ON THE RECYCLING BUDGET AND OUR DISPOSAL LINE ITEMS, AND THOSE ARE BIG, BIG LINE ITEMS IN THOSE BUDGETS.

AND THAT OVER-AGE RESULTS JUST SIMPLY THE FACT THAT THERE'S MORE, THERE'S MORE BROUGHT OUT THERE, RIGHT? YEAH.

THERE'S MORE WAYS.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I MEAN WE CAN PROJECT VERY CLOSE, BUT WE HAVE, I MEAN, THERE'S NO WAY THAT I CAN CUT THE BUDGET.

IF YOU, IF YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'RE SEEING AN INCREASE OF 2000 TONS PER YEAR OR 3000 TONS, IF YOU PROJECT BASED ON THIS IS THE COST, THIS WILL, IT COST TO HAUL IT.

THIS IS WHAT IT COST TO PUT IT IN THE LANDFILL.

AND YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO BE PRETTY CLOSE.

YOU CAN'T CUT THAT BUDGET.

IT'S, IT'S GOING TO, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND I'LL GET INTO DISPOSAL HERE IN A SECOND AND SHOW YOU A LITTLE GRAPH AND TREND OF HOW WE'VE MOVED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

UM, WHEN WE TALK A REFUSE DISPOSAL, WE'RE PRIMARILY TALKING ABOUT OUR TRANSFER STATION IN BENTONVILLE AND, AND BENDS DOOR.

THIS IS OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART.

WE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, FULL-TIME POSITIONS, UM, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT IN THAT BUDGET.

UM, THEY REPORT TO ME SOLID WASTE MANAGERS IN THAT BUDGET.

OUR DISPOSAL EQUIPMENT OPERATORS ARE WITHIN THAT BUDGET, A BUDGET AND ONE FULL-TIME AND ONE PART-TIME SKILL HOUSE ATTENDANT.

AND THEN WE HAVE MAINTENANCE STAFF, A PART-TIME PERSON.

UM, THE, UH, AND, AND ONE THING I WOULD MENTION, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE, WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE, UM, CERTIFIED, UM, WASTE OPERATORS.

IF YOU RUN A TRANSFER STATION, ORLANDO YEAR WIRE TO HAVE THOSE.

SO WHEN I STARTED, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY, AND, UM, WE WERE UP TO THREE, UNFORTUNATELY WE LOST ONE THIS YEAR, WE'RE DOWN THE TWO MYSELF AND THE SOLID WASTE MANAGER, BUT WE DO HAVE, UM, SEVERAL LICENSURES THAT WE HAVE

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TO KEEP UP WITH.

UM, AND, AND THAT LICENSES THROUGH DEEP, OR WE ALSO HAVE PUBLIC WAY MASTERS.

AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT TRUCK WEIGHTS HERE RECENTLY.

UM, WE HAVE SEVERAL PUBLIC WEIGH MASTERS ON SITE AND THAT'S THROUGH THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE CONSUMER SERVICES.

SO WE HAVE SEVERAL LICENSES THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH THERE.

NO, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO MEET ALL OF THOSE DEMANDS? WELL, WE, I THINK WE DO VERY GOOD WITH, UH, 70% PART-TIME FOLKS.

UM, I THINK WE DO A REAL GOOD JOB.

UM, WE WERE GOING TO TRY IT.

WE HAVE HIRED TWO NEW EQUIPMENT OPERATORS AND, UM, THE, THE CODE WILL WORK.

IT REQUIRES YOU TO HAVE A, UH, A YEAR MINIMUM IN SOLID WASTE BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN CONSIDER SETTING FOR THE WASTE OPERATORS CERTIFICATION.

UM, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THE JOB AND THEY'RE GOING TO STICK WITH US BECAUSE IT'S AN INVESTMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SEND THEM TO TRAINING.

IT HAS TO BE STATE APPROVED TRAINING.

UM, WE TYPICALLY SEND THEM TO AN ENGINEERING SERVICE.

YOU CAN'T WELL WITH COVID.

THEY DID OFFER SOME TRAINING ONLINE RECENTLY FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER.

UM, BUT WE, I THINK WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD RIGHT NOW.

UM, WE, WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME FLOW, UM, THE ONE GOOD THING WHEN OUR, WITH OUR, WE HAVE A LOT OF RETIREES AND THEY'RE VERY DEPENDABLE.

UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE.

AND, UM, I, I THINK OVERALL, UM, IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD IF YOU GO DOWN THERE AND WE GET A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS AT OUR TRANSFER STATION.

UM, WE TRY TO KEEP OUR GROUNDS NEAT AND OUR CLOSED LANDFILL.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT BUDGET INCLUDES OUR CLOTHES, LANDFILL AND THE ACTIVITIES AND THE CLOSED LANDFILL.

WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, CORRECTIVE ACTION, GROUNDWATER MONITORING, UM, GAS MONITORING.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE ALL, IT'S ALWAYS MOVING IN THERE'S REPAIRS TO BE MADE.

AND WE ALSO ARE INSPECTED REGULARLY BY THE EEQ THERE AS WELL.

, I'M GOING TO AGGRAVATE THE WAYNE BACK HERE.

I THINK THAT'S JUST A PHOTO OF THE TRANSFER STATION.

UM, JUST SHOW YOU SOME OF THE TRAILERS.

AND I THINK MOST OF YOU'VE BEEN UP THERE, BUT, UM, THE BIG BUILDING ON TOP OF THE HILL, THAT'S THE TRANSFER STATION AND THAT'S WHERE ALL THE, ALL THE WASTE IN THE COUNTY GOES AND DUMPED ON THAT FLOOR.

AND THEN WE LOAD IT INTO THE TRAILERS AND THEN WE HAVE A CONTRACT FOR THE HAULING TO GO DOWN THE ROAD.

AND, YOU KNOW, I GAVE YOU SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS LAST YEAR OR LAST WEEK.

I DON'T, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THOSE AGAIN, UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS, UM, PHOTOS OF THE TIP AND FLOOR AND THE APPROACH TO THE SCALE HOUSE.

UM, I'LL GET TO CONCERNS AND NEEDS IN A MINUTE, BUT WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF THE, THE MAJOR REPAIRS THAT WE NEED TO DO, UM, DOWN A BIT ADVIL, UM, YOU KNOW, A YEAR OR SO AGO, WE REDID ALL THE ASPHALT AND THAT HADN'T BEEN DONE SINCE IT WAS INITIALLY BUILT IN THE NINETIES.

SO IT HELD UP A LONG TIME.

UM, WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT.

UM, AND THEN OUR TIPPING FLOOR, UM, WE, WE REPLACED OUR TIPPING FLOOR ALSO.

SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE MAJOR PROJECTS ON SITE THAT WE NEEDED TO ACCOMPLISH.

SO VERY HAPPY WE GOT THOSE, THOSE MAJOR THINGS.

, AND THIS IS JUST A PHOTO JUST, UH, UM, FROM OUR ENGINEERS.

AND WE'VE, I'VE SHOWED YOU SOME OF THESE BEFORE JUST SHOWING SOME OF THE, THE GROUND WATER, WELLS AND MONITORING NETWORKS.

I KNOW I'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS, UM, ABOUT WELLS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF ACTIVITY THAT WE DON'T OFTEN THINK ABOUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOLID WASTE, BECAUSE THAT CLOSED LANDFILL IS, IS A JOB.

UM, WE DEAL WITH ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS REGULARLY AND WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO DO AS MUCH OF THAT MAINTENANCE WORK AS WE CAN TO MINIMIZE USING ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS TO DO STUFF THAT WE CAN DO HANDS ON.

SO WE DO HAVE, UM, A VERY GOOD STAFF, UM, THAT WE RUN LEAN, BUT WE TRY TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO, UM, DOWN THERE THAT, THAT WE CAN PROVE OUR BUDGET AND SAVE AND SAVE FUNDS FOR THE TAXPAYER .

AND, UH, AND I MENTIONED, THIS IS THE REFUSE DISPOSAL BUDGET OVERALL IS OUR BIGGEST BUDGET.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, FOUR FULL-TIME, TWO PART-TIME FOLKS, UM, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, I THINK THAT WE DO PRETTY GOOD WITH THE TONNAGE WE RUN, WE'RE RUNNING THROUGH THERE.

UM, WE HAVE, UH, I MENTIONED, I THINK I MENTIONED ALL OF THE, UM, WASTE COMING TO THE SITES AND OUR CERTIFICATIONS.

UM, IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE, WE DO COLLECTION OF WHITE GOODS.

WE WERE BRINGING IN, UM, BRUSH WASTE WHERE WE'RE MULCHING THAT WE SELL IT BACK TO CUSTOMERS.

UM, WE HAVE, UM, LET'S SEE, I MEAN, WE RECYCLE EVERYTHING WE DO ON ALL YOUR OTHER CONVENIENCE SITES.

AND, UM, WE COLLECT PAINT OIL.

THAT'S WHERE ALL THE WHEEL GOES IN THE COUNTY.

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SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY HAPPENING PLACE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE HOW MUCH GOES ON IN THERE.

UM, BUT I THINK WE KEEP THE TRASH FLOWING AND WE, WE USUALLY DON'T HEAR ANYTHING UNLESS, UNLESS IT STOPS FLOWING.

HERE'S A, HERE'S A GRAPH OF LANDFILL TONS.

I MENTIONED LAST WEEK, THEY INCREASED, WE SAW, UM, IN FISCAL YEAR, 1920, UM, WE WERE UP TO 37033.8, EIGHT TONS.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, WE'VE CONTINUED TO CLIMB.

SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SIGN FOR THE ECONOMY.

A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, I DID A LITTLE HISTORY AND OVER 10 YEARS TIME, WE WERE AVERAGING ABOUT 30,000 TONS.

AND THAT WAS KIND OF RIGHT AFTER THE HOUSE AND MARKET CRASHED.

SO I THINK THAT WE'RE, WE'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS FAR AS STARTING TO COME BACK.

UM, AND, AND WE SHOULD SEE SOME REVENUES TOO, BUT TYPICALLY 55% OF OUR WASTE THAT WE SEE IS FROM RESIDENCES, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY, RESIDENTIAL WASTE COMING IN NEEDS AND BUDGET, BUDGETARY CONCERNS.

AGAIN, RECYCLING COST INCREASES THE SAME ON THIS SITE.

UM, AS THE OTHER LOCATIONS WE JUST HAVE TO, WE MIGHT HAVE TO TRAVEL FURTHER.

UM, WE HAVE INCREASED TONNAGE.

UH, I JUST SHOWED YOU, UM, UP OVER 3000 TONS FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR, WE HAVE UP TO 5% ANNUAL CPI INCREASE, UM, ON, ON THE CONTRACT FOR HAULING.

AND THEN WE HAVE A 25 CENT PER TON PER YEAR INCREASE TO BATTLE CREEK LANDFILL.

SO EACH YEAR, EVEN IF WE DID NOT CHANGE IN TONNAGE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SEE A POTENTIAL INCREASE.

SO WE ALWAYS HAVE TO BE PREPARED IN THE BUDGET.

ALSO.

UM, I HAD, I WAS REVIEWING SOME DATA WITH MR. DALEY.

UM, ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THE COMMERCIAL RATE WITH THE TOWN OF FRONT-WHEEL.

UM, THEY PAY 73.5% OF THE COMMERCIAL TONNAGE RATE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY $69.

AND SO THEY'RE PAYING 50, 72 PER TON.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE CONTINUALLY ANNUAL INCREASES EVENTUALLY, UM, YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE SUBSIDIZING.

AND, UH, I THINK WE'RE AT THAT POINT NOW, UM, CAUSE WE'RE PAYING $34 PER TON.

AND THEN I'D SAY APPROXIMATELY, YOU KNOW, BASED ON A TRUCK, PROBABLY $18 A TON FOR HAULING IT INTO LANDFILL.

AND THEN THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE OUR, OUR COST, UM, WITH OUR PERSONNEL LOADING OR, OR SCALING.

SO, I MEAN, RIGHT THERE, THAT'S $52 A TIME.

WOULD THE GOAL BE TO BAIL OUT THE, EVEN AT NO COST OR NO? UH, NO INCREASE, UH, WITH WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WHAT W WHAT IT COST US.

JUST PASS THAT ALONG TO THE TOWN.

I MEAN, I THINK AT THIS POINT, AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE $34 A TON TO PAIGE FAMILY TO BATTLE CREEK LANDFILL.

RIGHT NOW IT'S COSTING ME ABOUT $18 FOR TRUCKING PER TIME.

AND THEN I HAVEN'T INCLUDED ANY COSTS FOR OUR FACILITIES, OUR PERSONNEL AT ALL.

SO IF, IF IT WAS EQUALIZED WITH THE REST OF THE REST OF THE FOLKS OUT THERE, THEN, THEN IT WOULD COVER THE COST.

YES, SIR.

SIR.

AND I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER, I WANT TO SAY THAT THE TOWNS AND SHANDRA COUNTY, THEY PAY THE TIPPING FEES FOR THE TOWN, I THINK SHENANDOAH.

HOW MANY TONS DOES COMMERCIAL TONS? DOES THE TOWN HAVE A YEAR COMMERCIAL? YEAH.

UM, WELL, I MEAN, IT AVERAGES OUT, I MEAN, YOU MIGHT DO 30 TONS A MONTH.

IT'S A LITTLE UP AND DOWN, BUT COMMERCIAL TONS IS, IS NOT AS GREAT, YOU KNOW, AS RESIDENTIAL TIMES 350 A YEAR COMMERCIAL, BUT NOW RESIDENTIAL, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT 500 TONS A MONTH, BUT WE DON'T CHARGE FOR RESIDENTIAL TONS.

SO EXPLAIN THAT TO ME.

I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR, WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SAYING.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THE TOWN PAYS A COMMERCIAL RATE, BUT THEY DON'T PAY FOR RESIDENTIAL.

UM, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN IT'S BEEN MANY YEARS, BUT BASICALLY THEY HAVE A RESIDENTIAL PICKUP AND A COMMERCIAL PICKUP.

SO THEY CONSIDER THE LARGE WHITE TRASH CANS COMMERCIAL, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT YOU DUMP IN THE BLUE BINS RESIDENTIAL.

SO THE 73.5% WAS BASED UPON, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID, WELL, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 25% OF THE WASTE WAS RESIDENTIAL AT THAT POINT WITHIN THAT COMMERCIAL LOAD.

I THINK MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WENT AWAY FROM THAT AND IT'S ALL COMMERCIAL AT THIS TIME.

BUT, UM, THAT WAS THE AGREEMENT WE HAD, BUT WE HAVEN'T, WE'VE NOT CHARGED FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PICKUP.

AND THAT, THAT IS JUST, YOU KNOW, BEEN THE POLICY FOR MANY YEARS.

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AND THEY WERE, AGAIN, I MEAN, OF COURSE THEIR ARGUMENT IS ITS TAIL CITIZENS ARE PAYING COUNTY TAXES.

SO WE TAKE CARE OF IT.

THE ONE THING THOUGH WITH THE COMMERCIAL, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT, UM, WAS I THINK FOR A WHILE THE TAIL AND THE COUNTY WOULDN'T CHARGE HIM FOR COMMERCIAL PICKUP YEARS AGO.

AND THEN YOU HAD YOUR COMMERCIAL HAULERS WHO WERE PAYING STUFF, BUT THEN THE TAIL COULD GO BACK IN AND UNDERCUT THEM BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY THE TIPPING FEES.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY PROBABLY SHOULD BE READ, LOOKED AT JUST FROM A FAIRNESS.

YEP.

I AGREE.

ANYBODY ELSE? SO DO WE HAVE AN MOA YOU WITH HIM AND HOW OLD IS IT? WHAT'S THE MOST, THE AGREEMENT WAS DISCUSSED.

UM, AND I, I SENT MR. DAILY SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS, I THINK IT WAS 2009, 2010 WAS WHEN THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY BOTH HAD ACTION AMONGST THE BOARD, BUT I NEVER FOUND, I NEVER DID FIND THE FINAL MOA, UM, SIGNED BY BOTH PARTIES, BUT THEY BOTH TOOK ACTION IN MEETING TO DISCUSS THE 73.5% IN THE COMMERCIAL AGREEMENT.

TO DISCUSS.

SO WE HAVE REQUESTED A COPY OF THE AGREEMENT.

AND SO FAR THEY'RE STILL LOOKING.

AND WHEN DID, WHEN DID WE REQUEST THAT A MONTH AGO? THREE WEEKS AGO.

WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, I MEAN, I HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, I HAVEN'T SENT ANY OFFICIAL REQUESTS TO THE TOWN FOR THAT.

AT THIS POINT, I'VE TALKED, I'VE TALKED TO THEM OVER THE YEARS AND YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, IT WAS A NOTE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL REVIEW THE ANNUALLY AND I'VE TALKED TO PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTORS IN THE PAST.

AND JUST TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANY CHANGE IN THE NUMBER OF DUMPSTERS YOU HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT TYPE OF THING.

UM, AND THEN, SO IT'S OFFICIALLY WRITTEN, BUT I COULD NOT FIND AN OFFICIAL MOA SIGNED SOMEWHERE.

UM, WE DO HAVE BOARD DOCUMENTS WITH DISCUSSION AND VOTES ABOUT IT.

UM, AND THEN I KNOW I SAW TOWN WORK, YOU KNOW, WORKING DOCUMENTS AS WELL AND LETTERS FROM BOTH PARTIES.

SO WE DO HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPLIED.

I COULD NOT FIND THE YEAH, LIKE ONE BLANK DOCUMENT, BUT IT IS IMPLIED ON BOTH SIDES.

YES, MA'AM OKAY.

IF IT'S NOT TOO LATE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS COULD BE AN ITEM ADDED TO THE NEXT LIAISON.

WHEN'S THE NEXT LIAISON MEETINGS THIS WEEK? NEXT THURSDAY? I DON'T KNOW.

I BELIEVE IT'S AN THIRSTY, I JUST WONDER IF THAT COULD BE ADDED ON THERE JUST AS A STARTING POINT FOR DISCUSSION.

SURE.

CAN I, I WANT TO TRY TO CLARIFY SOMETHING BECAUSE I'M, THAT PERSON ALWAYS PUTS MY TRASH ON THE TRUCK ON THIRD AND WEDNESDAYS AND GETS OVER THERE AND IS CLOSED.

THAT IS, DON'T ASK ME, BUT THAT IS MY DAY TO DO IT.

AND SO I KNOW IT IS THE CONVENIENCE SITES ARE CLOSED BECAUSE I'M PROBABLY NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT'S DOING THIS.

THAT'S WHY I WANT TO CLARIFY IT.

IF THE BENTONVILLE SITE IS OPEN, BUT THAT'S OPEN TO, UM, THE BIG TRUCKS THAT ARE BRINGING.

CORRECT.

IS IT OPEN TO CONTRACTORS AS WELL? YES.

UM, SO IF I HAVE MY TRASH ON THE TRUCK, I CAN'T GO IN AND JUST PUT IT IN THE DUMPSTER.

IT'S, IT'S GOTTA BE EITHER THE BIG HAULING OR CONTRACT TECHNICALLY.

I MEAN, IF, I MEAN, IF YOU WANT IT TO CONSIDER OPEN THE BOTTOMS UP ON THAT DAY, WE COULD, I MEAN, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL LET THEM DUMP THEIR TRASH.

IF THEY DO TYPICALLY I'LL ALWAYS TURN AROUND AND GO HOME AND TAKE MINE HOME AND THEN GO BACK ON THURSDAY.

CAUSE I DON'T LIVE THAT FAR AWAY.

MY CONCERN IS THAT SOMEBODY IS GONNA GO AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA WANT IT SITTING ON THEIR TRUCK AND THEY'RE GOING TO DUMP IT OFF TILL INSIDE THE ROAD SOMEWHERE, GET A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE.

BUT USUALLY IF SOMEONE SHOWS UP AND FORGETS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL LET THEM THROW IT AWAY.

WELL, I WANTED TO MAKE THAT FOR THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I MADE THEM DO IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT IT'S JUST LIKE, WEDNESDAY'S MY DAY.

HAD ON PANHANDLE ROAD, THERE WAS A DUMPSITE THERE.

AND I MEAN, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANTED TO OPEN IT AND I MEAN, IT CAN CREATE CONFUSION IF MAYBE ONE SITE WOULD NOT.

BUT IF YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE STAGGERING SCHEDULES FOR REFUSE COLLECTION.

CAUSE TRYING ON THE WEBSITE, EVEN TRYING TO SAY, OKAY, WELL THIS IS THE CONVENIENCE SIDE OF THE TRANSPORTATION AND THIS IS THE COMMERCIAL OFTEN CALLS CONFUSION, YOU KNOW? AND I'VE TRIED DIFFERENT THINGS TO DISTINGUISH THEM.

UM, I, I'M NOT, UH, I DON'T INJECT, IF YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO OPEN A SITE, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE UP TO YOU IF WE WENT BACK TO OPEN AND ALL THE SITES, OF COURSE WE WOULD NEED MORE PERSONNEL, YOU KNOW, THAT'D BE 12 HOURS WORK.

NO, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, UM, ON THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE

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I KNOW OFF ONE OF THE ROADS UP IN BENTONVILLE, THERE WAS CONSTRUCTION STUFF DUMPED ALONG THE ROAD.

AND SO I FIGURED THAT THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED TO DUMP AS WELL TO IF, IF THE CONTRACTORS, WHEN THEY LOAD UP, WHATEVER WERE ALL THE TIRES WERE ON PANHANDLE ON THE, THE PARK GROUND.

IT WAS TIRES.

AND WE WORKED WITH THE, YEAH.

WITH THE PARK SERVICE, WE WORKED WITH THEM.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING TO GET THE WORD OUT.

THAT IF YOU ARE A CONTRACTOR AND YOU GO UP THERE THAT THEY DON'T TURN AROUND AND THEN GO TO SOMEPLACE LIKE THAT.

WELL, CONTRACTOR, I MEAN, THEY MAY TURN AROUND IF THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY A FEE.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW THAT, I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, IF CONTRACTOR COMES IN AND THOSE WERE OPEN AND THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY A FEE THAT GETS STEEL TURNING, BUT MOST, MOST OF YOUR BIG CONTRACTORS HAVE, YOU KNOW, DUMP TRAILERS OR THEY'RE USING DUMPSTER YEAH.

TANKERS FROM I'M SURE MOST OF THEM WOULD BE SOMEBODY THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY TROUBLE.

PUBLIC WORKS, SANITARY DISTRICTS.

UM, I MENTIONED SOME OF THE, THE FACILITY UPGRADES THAT WE DID WITH IT WERE POSITIVE.

UM, AND I THINK ACTUALLY I MENTIONED IN OUR LAST BUDGET CYCLE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERING A SCALE REPLACEMENT, BECAUSE OUR SCALES ARE STILL ORIGINAL.

SO, YOU KNOW, I HAD, YOU KNOW, PUT IN AND REQUEST IT FOR FUNDING FOR SCALES, UM, OR AT LEAST A START, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THAT.

AND, AND I KNOW I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS, UM, WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT MAINTENANCE FACILITIES AND YOU KNOW, MY PRIMARY CONCERN, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW, AS WE APPROACH WINTER TIME WITH COVID.

UM, IF YOU CAN SEE THE TOP LEFT PHOTO, THAT LITTLE TEENY BUILDON, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF OUR WARM IN HOUSE.

AND THEN THIS LITTLE OUTLOOK BUILDING DOWN HERE IN THE BOTTOM, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU CAN ONLY GET RE WELL, YOU CAN'T GET TWO MEN IN THERE AND BE SIX FOOT APART.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE GUYS WILL GO.

THEY GET THEIR, YOU KNOW, DRINK A WATER OR COFFEE.

UM, THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE A, A GOOD FACILITY UP THERE.

WE NEED TO GET SOME KIND OF BUILDING UP THERE, MINIMALLY FOR THEM, UM, A BETTER WARM AND HOUSE.

AND, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A PRIORITY THAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH.

UM, SOONER QUALITY BUILDING A SMALL, WELL, OH, YOU ONLY HAVE ONE MAN THERE AT THE TIME, YOU KNOW, AND UP HERE ON THIS FLOOR, YOU GOTTA, YOU, YOU COULD HAVE FOUR MEN AT A TIME WORKING.

UM, AND IF YOU GOT FOUR MEN, I MEAN YOU IN THAT, WELL, EITHER ONE OF THEM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AND, AND THE I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ONE THAT ONE'S GOT TOOLS IN IT, THE BIGGER ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT, THE ONE ON THE LEFT ON THE TOP PICTURE THAT LITTLE SMALL ONE AS WELL.

UM, SO WE REALLY NEED TO DO SOMETHING THERE.

LIKE I'D LIKE TO EVENTUALLY SEE HIM.

WE HAD SOME PLANS AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE REMODELED THAT CIP, BUT, UM, REALLY LIKED TO SEE THEM HAVE SOMETHING WITH A SHOWER AND A BATHROOM UP THERE.

WE HAVE ONE BATHROOM AT THE BOTTOM THAT'S VERY OLD.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING TRUCKS, IT'S TOUGH TO TAKE A BREAK IN AND GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS THERE.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A MESS, BUT IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING THERE REAL CLOSE WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH WASTED, YOU COULD GET IN AND TAKE A SHOWER IF YOU NEED IT TO AND, AND, AND EVEN CLEANED UP BEFORE YOU WENT HOME.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF LOCKER ROOM, UM, CLOSED LANDFILL COMPLIANCE, MAINTENANCE, AND REPAIR, THOSE ARE ALWAYS CONCERNS, UM, ON THEM AS COLORS HAD SOME QUESTIONS FOR ME THIS EVENING, UM, YOU KNOW, WE GET QUESTIONS ANYTIME WE'RE DOING WORK DOWN THERE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE STUFF HAPPENED IN THERE.

WE'RE ALWAYS MONITORING WATER AND GAS, AND WE'RE VERY, YOU KNOW, REGULATED BY THE STATE OF VIRGINIA.

UM, AND WE WANT TO DO OUR BEST.

OUR JOB IS TO KEEP ANY KIND OF CONTAMINANTS ON OUR PROPERTY AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUR GOAL.

ANYTIME WE HAVE ANYTHING HAPPENED ON LANDFILL, WE'RE REGULARLY MONITORING AND DEQ IS GOING TO REVIEW.

WE HAVE CORRECTIVE ACTION.

UM, WE'VE BEEN IN CORRECTIVE ACTION SINCE 2000 FOR GROUNDWATER.

UM, SO WE, WE CONTINUALLY HAVE GROUNDWATER UPDATES AND, UM, MONITORING.

UM, WE JUST RECEIVED OUR REPORTS LAST WEEK.

I THINK I SHARED WITH MR. DALEY, UM, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE NEEDED TO DO, AND WE'RE DOING GOOD, UM, AND MEETING OUR STATE REQUIREMENTS, BUT WE NEED TO CONSIDER THOSE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY DO WE NEED MONEY THERE, BUT THAT'S IN THAT DISPOSAL BUDGET ALSO, ALL RIGHT.

SO SANITARY DISTRICT GUYS, UM, I MENTIONED EARLIER, THEY THEY'RE DOING THE ROADSIDE MAINTENANCE, SANITARY DISTRICT MAINTENANCE FOR THOSE THAT, THAT WE TAKE CARE OF.

AND CURRENTLY DURING A MAINTENANCE AT THE AIRPORT AND ALSO OKAY FOR THE STREET SIGNS OR ON ROAD SIGNS, BASICALLY PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, PUBLIC WORKS, FOREMAN AND STAFF, NO REAL PROBLEMS THERE, BUDGETARILY.

WE'RE DOING GOOD.

UM, WE DIDN'T REQUEST ANYTHING LAST YEAR.

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UM, WE'VE SEEN SOME IMPROVEMENT, HAD LESS THEFT.

SOME OF THE HARDWARE'S HELPED WITH THAT AND WE'VE CHANGED SOME HARDWARE OVER THE YEARS.

THAT'S JUST A PHOTO OF, ONE OF THE GUYS DOING A REPAIR THERE, THERE REAL BUDGETARY CONCERNS, GOING BACK TO THAT, SOME STREETS AND HIGHWAYS, THE LAST SLIDE, THE PICTURE.

IT HAS A LITTLE, LITTLE, UM, LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THE DIRECTOR AND THE OH YEAH, RIGHT THERE.

THAT ONE.

YEP.

HOW MANY PEOPLE DOES THAT TOTALLY TAKE CARE? WELL, AND I KNOW, I KNOW THAT YOU SAID THAT MAINTENANCE WAS BASICALLY COME UP, WAS TAKEN CARE OF ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE TYPE.

SO WE HAVE A FOREMAN AND WE HAVE FOUR MAINTENANCE WORKERS TO THOSE WORKERS ARE PRETTY MUCH DESIGNATED TO WORK IN SHADOW FARMS. UM, WELL, YEAH, ACTUALLY FOUR TOTAL.

UM, WE HAVE THE FOREMAN AND ONE PERSON TYPICALLY WORKING IN AND I'LL, I'LL I'LL, I WILL GET TO THAT QUESTION IN A SECOND, BUT, UM, SO TRAP YOU'VE MET TRAVIS PROBABLY AND JAKE, AND THEY WORK IN LINDEN HEIGHTS, LAKE FRONT ROLL WALKOUT DRIVE, AND OSPREY LANE.

AND THEN WE HAVE TWO NEWER EMPLOYEES WORKING IN SHADOW FARMS AND SHADOW FARMS. FOREMAN IS, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY IN THE SHENANDOAH FARMS BUDGET, BUT THAT IN THE FOREMAN HAS ACTUALLY HAD AN ACCIDENT HE'S OUT RIGHT NOW.

SO OUR PUBLIC WORKS FOREMAN AND STAFF ARE COVERING, YOU KNOW, THOSE NEEDS ALSO WORKING WITH ME.

UM, SO TYPICALLY WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC WORKS THAT DO THE SMALLER SANITARY DISTRICT'S HANDLING THE SIGNS ALL THE TIME.

SO IT'S USUALLY ONE TO TWO MEN THAT HANDLE THAT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY DEDICATED STAFF THERE.

LIKE I SAID, WE JUST, THAT'S JUST PART OF OUR DUTIES AND THAT, AND IT'S WORKING FINE.

I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING IT DONE.

USUALLY THEY CAN DO IT.

THE SIGN REPAIRS UPDATES USUALLY A DAY A MONTH.

I MEAN, WE TRY TO DO THEM.

IF WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S URGENT, WE TRY TO WORK IT IN, YOU KNOW, AS FAST AS WE CAN, BUT I'D SAY ABOUT EIGHT HOURS A WEEK.

SANITARY DISTRICTS, UM, COUNTY MAINTAINED.

I JUST NAMED THEM OFF A MINUTE AGO.

UM, SHE ENDED UP FARMS IS ONE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S KIND OF NEW TO ME.

I HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE FARMS AS MUCH IN THE PAST.

UM, OTHER THAN SENDING SOME PUBLIC WORKS HELP OUT THERE.

SO THIS IS, THIS IS I'M ONE OF THOSE KIND OF EVOLVING, UM, UH, I GUESS, UH, I GUESS OUR POSITIONS WHERE WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT THE SANITARY DISTRICT MANAGER, WE'RE RECEIVING APPLICATIONS, UM, MR. DALEY, AND I TALKED ABOUT IT.

THIS WEEK WE'LL HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A POOL OF APPLICANTS.

UM, MAINLY FOR THE FARMS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HIRING THAT PERSON, YOU KNOW, KIND OF IN A MORE BROAD SENSE.

SO I JUST KIND OF STUCK THEM IN THERE FOR NOW, YOU KNOW, REPORTING TO ME, UM, IT'S UNFILLED, BUT HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ABLE TO USE THEM, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE BOARD, UM, IN THE SANITARY DISTRICTS.

SO WHO IS THAT? YOU'RE THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

HE'S THE SANITARY DISTRICT MANAGER.

THAT'S TDB TO BE DETERMINED CURRENTLY.

AS FAR AS THE PEOPLE WHO, WHO YOU HAVE TO SPEAK TO IN WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE AND WHAT'S HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, AND IF I WAS NOT HERE, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO COULD STEP IN, EVEN IF TEMPORARY AND, AND I THINK, YEAH, AND WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT FULL AND PART TIME.

THAT'S THE VACANCY.

WE TALKED ABOUT ONE FOR THE FARMS. SO MY PART OF MY ROLE NOW IS I'M THE MANAGER FOR THE COUNTY FOR LINDEN HEIGHTS LAKE FRONT ROLE.

WELL, BASICALLY EVERYBODY UP THERE NOW SINCE BOB DEPARTED.

SO I HANDLE ALL THE BUDGETS AND THEN I DEAL WITH HOA POA OR ADVISORY BOARD.

I DEAL WITH EACH BOARD.

SO THAT'S MY ROLE.

SO LOOKING, YOU KNOW, WITH THE TRANSITION AND, AND, AND BOB WAS HANDING IN THAT POSITION, WE HAD A, A SANITARY DISTRICT MANAGER FOR THE FARMS WHEN I'D STARTED HERE AND HE'D BEEN GONE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

AND BOB WENT THROUGH THAT INTERVIEW PROCESS ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS AND REALLY DIDN'T COME UP WITH ANY APPLICANTS THAT WERE REALLY SUITABLE FOR THE POSITION.

UM, SO HE REALLY JUST HANDLED THE MANAGEMENT PART FOR THE COUNTY FOR YEARS.

SO, UM, WE HAD DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD AND ACTUALLY PART OF THE AGREEMENT IS THAT WE HAVE A DEDICATED MANAGER FOR THE FARMS. SO THAT WAS WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK.

SO THAT, THAT PARTICULAR, UM, THE WAY THAT, THAT IS STRUCTURED IN THE ORG CHART INDICATES THAT THERE MAY BE A SANITARY DISTRICT MANAGER FOR ALL OF THEM.

WELL, IT'S KINDA, AND THAT'S WHAT I SAID.

YEAH, WELL, WELL, AND, AND THAT COULD BE, THAT COULD BE POSSIBLE.

THAT COULD BE POSSIBLE.

SO YOU'RE LEAVING ALL YOUR EVERYTHING.

SO WHAT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT I THINK THAT WHOEVER'S IN THAT POSITION, YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT ALL OF THOSE SENSORY DISTRICTS, OTHER THAN MYSELF,

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AND, UH, I THINK MR. DALEY'S INDICATED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO REPORT TO ME EITHER WAY.

SO, UM, IF THEY'RE UNDERSTANDING PHARMACISTS, I THINK THEY STILL LEARN MORE ABOUT EVERYBODY.

SURE.

AND CHARGE BACK TO WHEREVER THEY'RE WORKING.

SO IF, IF THEY'RE PUT SPECIFICALLY ON THAT SHADOW FARMS, THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD ONLY WORK THERE AND THEIR LOAN, UM, AND THAT WOULD BE YET IN CHARGE OF THAT BUDGET.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS, AND ONE OF THE REASONS YOU'D S YOU SEE THE PUBLIC WORK SANITARY DISTRICT BUDGET HAS INCREASED IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN PUT, UH, TWO PEOPLE, TWO ADDITIONAL PEOPLE IN SHANDA FARMS, WE'VE PUT THEM UNDER PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED FULL-TIME PEOPLE AT THE TIME.

BUT WE'VE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE THE TWO FULL-TIME MENDOCINO FARMS HAD THE FLU, WHERE I COULD TAKE MY TWO MEN THAT I HAD AND SEND THEM THE WORK, BUT I COULDN'T DO IT THE OTHER WAY.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY WERE JUST DEDICATED THERE.

SO WE, AND, AND THE POS F HAS BEEN VERY GOOD ABOUT ALLOWING US TO DO THAT.

AND, AND THEY MAY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY MAY NOT, W THEY, THEY MAY HAVE OBJECTION, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, THEY MAY WANT SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO GO BACK TO HEAVEN.

SOMEONE DEDICATED TO US AGAIN, RATHER THAN HAVING A PUBLIC WORKS GUY HERE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK YOU HAVE THAT MANEUVERABILITY IN THEIR BUDGET.

IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, UM, THE FOREMAN COMES BACK RIGHT.

THEN, THEN THERE'S ALMOST A LITTLE BIT OF A DUPLICATION FOR THEM.

SO, YEAH.

AND I HOPE HE'S BACK SOON.

UM, UM, BUT THE FOREMAN, I CAN'T PULL HIM OUT AND SEND HIM TO LINDEN HEIGHTS OR TO LIKE OIL, BECAUSE HE'S SPECIFICALLY DEDICATED TO SHANDA FARMS. SO WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO TRY TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF FREEDOM THERE.

UM, AND, AND THAT'S THE OTHER THING YOU HAVE TO REALIZE WITH A LOT OF THESE BUDGETS TO RAISE REVENUE AND REFUSE DISPOSAL, YOU HAVE REVENUE THROUGH COMMERCIAL WASTE AND PUBLIC WORKS.

WE CHARGE OUR, FOR OUR, FOR MEN AND EQUIPMENT FOR THE WORK THAT WE PERFORM FOR EACH SANITARY DISTRICT.

AND I'LL, AND I'LL MENTION ROUGH, YOU KNOW, BRIEFLY THOSE, UM, OTHER BUDGETS THAT DO.

MA'AM.

SO JUST SO I'VE GOT IT STRAIGHT.

SO YOU SAID YOU HAD FOUR PEOPLE ON STAFF, SO THAT MEANS THE FOREMAN AND ONE PERSON FOR SHANORE FARMS, CORPSMAN, AND ONE PERSON FOR ALL THE OTHERS.

WELL, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, RIGHT.

WELL, THE SHADOW FARMS PERSON IS NOT WITHIN MY BUDGET.

SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, TRAVIS HE'S, OUR PUBLIC WORKS FOREMAN, AND WE HAVE JAKE THAT WORKS IN THE SMALL SANTERIA DISTRICTS.

WE HAVE TWO OTHER GUYS, NICK, WE RECENTLY HIRED NICK DAVIS.

AND THEN, UM, WE HAVE ANDREW MOREFIELD AND ANDREW AND ASSIGNED TO CHANDRA FARMS. THEN WE HAVE, YEAH.

SO WE HAVE, BUT TWO OF THEM WERE PUBLIC WORKS IN ONE SPECIFICALLY, SHE ENDED UP FARMS. SO WE HAVE THREE MEN IN THE FARMS RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT TWO OF THEM WERE ON OUR PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET.

SO ONE, THE TWO ARE ON, ARE ALL OF THESE WARREN COUNTY EMPLOYEES THOUGH COUNTY EMPLOYEES.

AND WE GET REIMBURSED FOR EVERYONE THROUGH THE SANDRA DISTRICT, EVERYONE THROUGH FEES, OTHER THAN LIKE THE FORM AND FOR FARMS. CAUSE HE'S SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THEIR BUDGET, HE'S THEY PAY EVERYTHING, THEY PAY HIS SALARY THERE, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SANITARY DISTRICT BUDGET.

IT IT'S TAKEN DIRECTLY OUT OF THAT BUDGET.

YEP.

AND WE COLLECT THE FUNDS, SO.

SO YEAH.

SO KIND OF THE OVERALL IDEAS, IF YOU LOOK BACK ON THIS PAGE, ONE IS THAT MIKE WILL HAVE PRIMARILY SOLID WASTE AND DISTRICTS AND THEN SOME LAYERS ON OVER HERE WITH THE AIRPORT AND A LITTLE BIT DOING STREET SIGNS.

BUT THE TWO PRIMARY PEOPLE THAT WOULD REPORT TO HIM WOULD BE THE SANITARY DISTRICT, MINT DISTRICTS, CHLAMYDIA MANAGER, AND THE SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT MANAGER.

SO THE, JUST SO I GET A GOOD UNDERSTANDING, SANITARY DISTRICT MANAGER IS GOING TO BE BASED HERE AND BASICALLY DELEGATE FROM HERE, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND MANAGED FROM HERE.

HE WON'T BE ON SITE AT ANY OF THESE PLACES.

WELL, I MEAN, HE PROBABLY WILL BE ON SITE, BUT NOT EVERY DAY.

I MEAN, LIKE IF WE'RE DOING A PROJECT OR A COMPLAINT OR A RURAL DISH AND PROJECT, OR, YOU KNOW, UM, LEAVING LIKE THE VEDA CONTRACT, YOU ASKED ABOUT SNOW REMOVAL, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A MANAGER THAT WILL GO AND CHECK OUT AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE WORK IS PERFORMED.

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SO YEAH.

HE'LL HAVE A DESK IN MIKE'S OFFICE, BUT HE'S NOT GOING TO BE THERE.

IT'S GOING TO BE OUT IN THE FIELD.

UM, THIS IS JUST A LITTLE MAP THAT SHOWS YOU WHERE THE, THE DISTRICTS ARE LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

AND I THINK MOST OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH, WITH THE SANITARY DISTRICTS.

UM, THIS IS SHANNON WOODS, WHICH IS SITUATED RIGHT UP TO, UM, THE WILDCAT DRIVE SANITARY DISTRICT.

SO THIS IS, UM, THE HEARING THAT WILL BE COMING UP SOON.

UM, SO THIS IS ONE OF THE, UH, POTENTIALLY COULD BE THE, THE NEXT, UH, MAINTAINED SANITARY DISTRICT THAT WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY, DEPENDING ON WHERE THE BOARD WOULD GO.

BUT I WANTED TO INCLUDE THIS, UM, AS PART OF MY DISCUSSION, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, THE ROLES AND, AND, AND THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE AS WE MAINTAIN MORE AND JUST A FEW PHOTOS HERE OF WORK, BUT AS ALWAYS, AS WE MAINTAIN MORE MILES OF ROAD IN MORE DISTRICTS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, AND EVEN MY PART OF THE JOB, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'RE DEALING WITH ANOTHER, ANOTHER BOARD OR ANOTHER POA OR ADVISORY BOARD.

UM, YOU, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED SOME, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE HELP OR SUPPORT.

UM, YOU MIGHT NEED ANOTHER PERSON TO HELP YOU OUT BECAUSE, UM, YOU, YOU CAN ONLY STRETCH TWO MEN ON, YOU KNOW, SO MANY DISTRICTS AND WHAT HAPPENS, UM, ALSO, AND I SHOULD MENTION IS, IS WHEN WE HAVE SNOW, UM, THE TWO GUYS THAT ARE WORKING IN THE SMALLER DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE'RE GOOD THERE, WE'RE PULLING IN THE SHADOW FARMS AND WE'RE THE BACKUP SUPPORT.

SO IF WE ADD ON ANOTHER ONE AND ANOTHER ONE WITHOUT ADDING ANY MORE PERSONNEL WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY ESSENTIALLY GOING TO TAKE AWAY SOME SUPPORT FROM SHANNON, A FARMER, SOMEWHERE IN A SNOW, A SNOW SITUATION, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE BUDGET NUMBER EARLIER.

UM, THIS YEAR IT'S $435,301.

AND AGAIN, THAT INCLUDES THE PUBLIC WORK DIRECTOR SALARY IN THERE.

UM, SO WITH ME THERE, THERE'S FIVE FULL-TIME STAFF NON-DEPARTMENTAL, UM, UH, YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE THE INFORMATION COME THROUGH, I'LL WORK WITH THE HOS POS ADVISORY BOARDS AND DEVELOP THEIR COUNTY BUDGETS.

AND, AND I ACTUALLY, UM, HAVE BEEN EVER SEEING, UM, THE FORD BUDGETS, EXCLUDING THE FARMS FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

UM, I GUESS WE STARTED, AND THAT'S KINDA HOW THAT PUBLIC WORKS SANITATION DISTRICT STARTED.

UM, UNTIL 2017, WE ONLY HAD SHENANDOAH FARMS, 2017, JANUARY ONE, WE TOOK ONE LAKE FRONT ROYAL.

UM, THAT'S MY ROLE CHANGED JULY OF THAT YEAR, NOVEMBER THAT YEAR WE TOOK ON MEN IN HEIGHTS IN 2018, WE TOOK ON WALKER DRIVE 2019.

WE TOOK ONE OSPREY LANE AND IT LOOKS LIKE IN 2020, WE MIGHT POTENTIALLY TAKE ON SHANNON WOODS.

SO WE ARE AN EVOLVING, AND, BUT WE WERE PICKING UP MORE ROADS.

WE'RE PICKING UP MORE BOARDS THAT DEAL WITH MORE MAINTENANCE, MORE CONTRACTORS NEEDED, ET CETERA, BUT EACH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I, YOU, SOME OF YOU WERE ALLUDING TO THE REVENUE, UM, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT COMES THROUGH.

I MEAN, IF WE ORDER STONE FOR A SPECIFIC ROAD SYSTEM, IT COMES RIGHT OUT OF THEIR BUDGET, THEIR BUDGET, NOT THE PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO WORK, WE CHARGE THE LINE ITEM FOR EACH SPECIFIC BUDGET.

SO IF I PUT IN A ROAD PIPE OR MY MEN DO, I'M GOING TO CHARGE THEM FOR THE HOURS AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS EIGHT HOURS AND WE HAD, YOU KNOW, MINI EXCAVATOR THERE AND A DUMP TRUCK AT THIS COST.

THIS IS THE TOTAL.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE CHARGED TO THE SPECIFIC LINE ITEM, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE LABOR.

SO EVERYBODY'S CHARGED FOR THE WORK WE PERFORMED.

WE ALSO HAVE THE NON COUNTY MAINTAINED SANITARY DISTRICTS.

WE DISCUSSED THOSE BRIEFLY LAST WEEK.

ALSO, THEY DO NOT HAVE BUDGETS.

THANKFULLY I DON'T HAVE TO WORK WITH THEIR BUDGETS.

UM, YOU GUYS APPROVE THEIR RATES, BUT WE DO HAVE WORK ON OUR SIDE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE, THE TREASURER'S OFFICE, THEY SEND OUT THE BILLS.

WE DO, UM, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT

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AND, AND SHELLY AND ADMINISTRATION HELPS WITH THAT, BUT WE SEND OUT THE LETTERS, UM, WITH, YOU KNOW, THE COLLECTION FEES AFTER THE COLLECTION FEE, AND THEN WE HAVE TO DISPERSE THE PAYMENT BACK TO THE GROUP.

SO WE DO HAVE SOME LEGWORK FOR THAT.

ALSO, I ALREADY MENTIONED IF THE MORE SANITARY DISTRICTS WE HAVE, WE'RE GOING TO NEED ADDITIONAL STAFF AND SUPPORT.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA EVENTUALLY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT.

UM, I HAD ACTUALLY PUT IN MY BUDGET LAST YEAR.

I THINK THAT WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT, WE NEED TO PURSUE AN ANOTHER TRACTOR, UM, TO BE ABLE TO KEEP UP, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO GRADE.

AND WE HAVE LIMITED MOISTURE AS WE SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND GET MORE MILES OF ROAD.

UM, PUBLIC WORKS, STAFF, PERFORMING MAINTENANCE WORK.

THE AIRPORT ALSO INFLUENCES OUR STAFFING NEEDS.

AS THINGS HAVE CHANGED THE AIRPORT, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF THE, YOU KNOW, SPRAYING ALONG THE CHAIN LINK FENCE, AND WE'RE DOING A LOT OF THE BUSH HOGAN AND, AND, AND THE BIG FIELD MAINTENANCE.

THE FBO IS CONCENTRATED ON THE SMALLER GRASS, SMELLING UP AROUND THE TERMINO AND ACTUALLY RUN THE AIRPORT AND DOING FLIGHT INSTRUCTION, WHICH MAKES SENSE.

SO, MIKE, IF WE BUY A LARGE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT LIKE THAT, DO WE, DO WE SPREAD THE COST OF THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT OUT OVER THESE SANITARY DISTRICTS? OR HOW DO YOU APPRECIATE, HOW DO WE DO THAT? OKAY.

CHARGE THEM HOURLY FOR THE EQUIPMENT AS I USE IT.

SO I'LL CHARGE THEM HOUR FOR HOUR.

UM, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN'T TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO THE FIGURES TO TELL YOU HOW IT'LL TAKE ME, BUT IT'S REALLY DEPENDENT ON HOW MUCH WORK AND HOW MANY MILES OF ROAD WE'RE USING ANYONE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I MIGHT HAVE A MONTH WHERE I HAVE A $10,000 LABELED BEER BILL, AND I MIGHT HAVE $30,000 IN ONE MONTH.

SO, I MEAN, ESSENTIALLY I COULD COLLECT ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY FOR A TRACTOR IN TWO MONTHS, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WOULD JUST BE JUST ON ROLL, NOT OVERALL COST.

SO THAT COST IS SPREAD.

SO YOU'VE, YOU'VE TAKEN CARE OF MAKING SURE IT'S COST OF THE EQUIPMENT, RIGHT? SO WE CHARGE AN HOURLY RATE FOR THE USE OF THE EQUIPMENT HOURLY RATE.

AND THE HOURLY RATE FOR A MAN IS, YOU KNOW, HIS SALARY, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER HIS BENEFITS ARE, INSURANCE SURE.

YOU BREAK THAT DOWN INTO AN HOURLY RATE.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF YOU'RE USING A PUBLIC WORKS MAINTENANCE PERSON IN THE FARMS, I MEAN, THEY'RE PAYING HIS WHOLE SALARY AND BENEFITS PER HOUR OR THE POA COVERING AT THIS POINT, DO THEY COVER THE COST OF EVERYTHING OR COST OF, WELL, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COVER IT FOR THE COST OF THE ENTIRE BUDGET, BECAUSE A LOT OF MY WORK, BECAUSE MY, LIKE I TOLD YOU BEFORE, BECAUSE I WAS SOLID WASTE MANAGER PREVIOUSLY.

SO, YOU KNOW, MY BUDGET OR MY SALARY INITIALLY, UM, WAS IN, EVEN AS DIRECTOR WAS IN REFUSE DISPOSAL.

AND THEN IT GOT MOVED OVER TO SANITARY DISTRICTS.

SO, BUT A LOT OF MY FUNCTION, WHICH I'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU A LOT ON CLOSED LANDFILL AND SOLID WASTE, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN SOLID WASTE, UM, AT LEAST HALF OF MY TIME TAKING YOU OUT.

SO IF YOU TAKE ME OUT OF THERE, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE AT MAN HOURS ARE A LOT OF THOSE ARE COVERED, BUT WE STILL DO THINGS OUTSIDE OF, YOU KNOW, EVEN THE AIRPORT.

I MEAN, WE'VE, WE, WE HAVE MAINTENANCE, UM, BUILT INTO THEIR BUDGET.

SO WE CHARGE FOR TIME SPENT AT THE AIRPORT AS WELL.

UM, SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, I MEAN, BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME PROJECTS.

I MEAN, WE'VE HELPED DO, YOU KNOW, SOME WORK OF THE SCHOOLS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, AND BEFORE, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE IN THERE LEACHATE PONDS, HELP CLEANING, ET CETERA.

UM, OCCASIONALLY WE'LL DO SOME OTHER PROJECTS ELSEWHERE, BUT I THINK OVERALL WE'RE, WE'RE DOING REALLY GOOD WITH OUR EMPLOYEES.

UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE EVERY HOUR, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE SOME OF THAT BUILT INTO STREET SIGNS.

UM, AND, AND OTHER COUNTY FUNCTIONS BOTTOM LINE IS RIGHT.

SO THE SANITARY DISTRICTS THEMSELVES, DON'T TOTALLY ABSORB EVERYTHING, SHADOW FARMS. IF YOU HAVE THOSE MEN IN THERE EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR, THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO PAY THOSE MEN'S SALARIES FOR THE WHOLE YEAR, YOU KNOW, BUT I MEAN, IF I PULL THEM OUT FOR A WEEK TO WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE, THEY MIGHT NOT PAY THE ENTIRE YEAR, BUT OVERALL, I THINK IT'S VERY CLOSE OTHER THAN THOSE COUNTY FUNCTIONS AND MYSELF, WHICH, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IT'S SPREAD MAKES SENSE.

AND THE OTHER THING I HAD THERE WAS THE, UM, AT THE AIRPORT, YOU KNOW, OUR CURRENTLY OUR, UM, WE HAVE ALL OUR EQUIPMENT STORED OUT THERE AND THERE COULD BE SOME, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT MORE POTENTIAL HANGER NEEDS AND,

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YOU KNOW, IF WE, UH, WE'VE NEEDED TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE OUT AND GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE ROOM, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONSIDER THAT AS WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET .

UM, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE AIRPORT'S NOT TYPICALLY A PUBLIC WORKS FUNCTION, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE AIRPORT MANAGER, BUT, YOU KNOW, I DO COMMUNICATE CURRENTLY, UM, WITH THE AIRPORT MANAGER AND THE, UM, AIRPORT COMMISSION.

WE HAVE A MEETING THIS WEEK.

SO THAT'S PART OF MY JOB TO THAT.

TECHNICALLY MY BUDGET, YOU KNOW, THE LINE ITEM IS IN THE SANITATION DISTRICT BUDGET.

SO YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, THAT TIME, UM, AND OUR MAINTENANCE STAFF AND, AND IT'S BASICALLY, AGAIN, TRAVIS AND JAKE THAT ARE OUT THERE WORKING, BUT WE DO OCCASIONALLY HAVE OVERLAP.

UM, ONE OF THE MEN FROM THE FARM, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE TRAINING, WE'LL TRY TO GET THE MEN WHEN THEY'RE NEW TO WORK WITH SOME OTHER GUYS TO LEARN OTHER THINGS, UM, TO BE ABLE TO BRANCH OUT.

THAT'S JUST A PICTURE OF THE AIRPORT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE AIRPORT BUDGET, WHICH DON'T REALLY NEED TO GET INTO THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO MENTION IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF WHERE I'M AT NOW AND IN THE PUBLIC WORKS GUYS THERE.

AND REALLY, I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR TONIGHT, UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OUT THERE.

THE ONE THING YOU DIDN'T MENTION WAS, UM, SNOW REMOVAL.

AND I KNOW WE, WE CONTRACT WITH V DOT OUT SOME OF OUR EQUIPMENT, BUT THEN WE ALSO CONTRACT WITH OTHER, UM, PRIVATE INDUSTRIES TO HELP PUSH ROADS HERE AS WELL.

MY UNDERSTANDING WAS WE PAY OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WE BRING IN VEIT, I'D ONLY PAY SO MUCH.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WHAT, WHAT AREAS DO WE CONTRACT OUT PRIVATELY IN THE COUNTY VERSUS WE HAVE, UH, WE ACTUALLY PUT OUT A BID FOR SNOW REMOVAL.

UM, WE DO EACH YEAR, WE, WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING, UM, THIS YEAR, UM, ON THE INITIAL AND, UM, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT WE DO HAVE, UM, WE DO HAVE SOME CONTRACTS IN PLACE THAT CAN BE RENEWED.

UM, WE DID PUT IT OUT AGAIN.

WE HAVE, I THINK THERE'LL BE A CONTRACT COMING UP ON NEXT WEEKEND AGENDA OR ACTUALLY TO A RENEWAL FOR, UM, YOU HENRY AND LIKE FRONT ROYAL AND THEN BNB WHO TYPICALLY PERFORMS WORK IN THE FORMS THAT NEED IT.

THE ONLY PLACE THAT WE USE A CONTRACTOR ALL THE TIME.

AND, UM, THAT WAS PER REQUEST, UM, OF THE SANITARY DISTRICT IS LIKE FROM OIL AND HENRY HAS PERFORMED WORK THERE.

AND MR. ROUSH, THE POA PRESENCE HERE THIS EVENING, UM, HE'S DONE A GOOD JOB.

HE'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.

AND, UM, HE CONTINUES TO SERVICE THAT AREA.

NOW WE WILL GO IN AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL COMMUNICATE, OUR STAFF WILL GO IN AND CHECK THE ROADS AND, AND CALL HIM IF NEEDED AND GO IN AND, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, GET AN UPDATE FROM HIM, MYSELF OR TRAVIS.

UM, BUT HE'S DONE A GOOD JOB IF WE WERE TO LOSE THAT.

UM, AND DIDN'T HAVE THAT.

I MEAN, I WOULD HAVE, UH, AN OVERNIGHT NEED FOR ANOTHER EMPLOYEE.

I MEAN, LIKE RIGHT NOW, UM, I DON'T FEEL SCARED BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, YOU'VE HAS BEEN VERY FAITHFUL AND TRUE, DONE A GOOD JOB.

HIS CONTRACT IS COMING UP ON FROM RENEWAL NEXT TUESDAY.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, ANYONE ELSE THAT REGULARLY IS CONTRACTED TO PUSH SNOW.

WE, WE HANDLE THE SNOW.

NOW, IF WE WOULD GET INTO A SITUATION LIKE WE'VE HAD SOME, IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS AND I HOPE WE DON'T HAVE ANY THIS YEAR, BUT, UM, WE'VE HAD SOME BIG SNOWS AND IN THE FARMS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HEAVY EQUIPMENT CONTRACTS.

YOU RECENTLY IMPROVED LIKE GEI.

UM, WE WOULD CALL YEAH, AND SAY, WE NEED A TRACK LOADER AND PLEASE PUT ONE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE MOUNTAIN AND PUT ONE AT THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN.

NOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A MOBILIZATION RATE AND AN HOURLY RATE.

UM, BUT IF YOU DON'T GET IT, I MEAN, YEAH, DOES A WHOLE LOT OF WORK.

UM, SOMEBODY ELSE IS PROBABLY GOING TO GET THEM IF IT GETS REAL BAD.

SO USUALLY IF WE'RE ANTICIPATING THE BIG SNOW, WE WILL CALL IN A CONTRACTOR, BUT THAT IS JUST MORE ON A NEED AS NEEDED BASIS.

MR. HENRY IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WE USE ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH V DOT.

WE SIGN UP FOR SNOW REMOVAL AND WE'RE PLOWING ROADS THAT WE'RE ALREADY GOING OVER.

WE'RE GETTING THERE BEFORE V DOT, TYPICALLY IN SHADOW FORMS. AND THEN THEY PAY US, WE SIGN UP AS A CONTRACTOR AND THEY PAY US, UM, BASED ON THEIR CONTRACTOR RATES THAT ARE ESTABLISHED.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO OVER THE ROADS ANYWAY.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

I UNDERSTOOD THAT.

I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF, UM, IF IT WAS BASICALLY IN THAT AREA OR IT, YOU KNOW, WELL, THEY

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WOULD PAY US IF THERE'S SITUATION.

I MEAN, THERE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF WE WERE, IF LET'S SAY IT WAS BAD IN SHANGRI-LA, I DON'T THINK V THAT WOULD HAVE ANY HEARTACHE.

IF WE, YOU KNOW, PLOW SHANGRI-LA AND GO ALL THE WAY TO BENTONVILLE TO GET THE TRASH, WE WOULD, AGAIN, IF THEY'RE STUCK ON BENTONVILLE, RIGHT.

OR 66, UM, IT'S, I MEAN, THEY HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO, TO WATCH US AND SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A REPORT EACH DAY.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE'S A PROBLEM OR CONCERN, THEY'RE GOING TO LET US KNOW, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD HAVE ANY HEARTBURN IF WE WERE TO DO OTHERWISE, BUT WE'RE NOT REALLY CALLED, YOU KNOW, TO DO ANY OTHER ROADS.

WE, WE JUST KIND OF WORK IN THOSE AREAS WHERE AT, IN, YOU KNOW, SHANNON WOODS, FOR INSTANCE, MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT SHE, THAT THEY MAY BE, YOU KNOW, SAID, HEY, YOU GUYS ARE PLOWING IN THERE, YOU KNOW, GO AHEAD AND PLOW THAT FIRST HALF MILE FOR US.

CAUSE IT'S THERE RIGHT NOW.

DO, DOES V I KNOW AT ONE TIME V DOT PLOWED, UM, FIRE STATIONS, ARE THEY DOING THAT OR ARE YOU DOING THAT AS PUBLIC WORKS TO KEEP THE FIRE STATIONS? UM, WELL, WE HAVE PLOWED OUT AT, UM, SHINDO FARMS BEFORE, BUT WE DON'T TYPICALLY DO THOSE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF SNOWPLOWS DONE, BUT PARKS AND REC ALSO.

SO THEIR PARKS AND REC IS TYPICALLY DOING YOUR PARKING LOTS.

P S AND P TO THE PARK, THE FIRE STATIONS.

IF, IF THE WINNERS, BUT ANYTHING LIKE THE REST OF THE YEAR, WHO KNOWS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET.

ANYTHING ELSE CON UM, I FIGURED HE'D HAVE CONTRACT QUESTIONS.

HE USUALLY ASKS ME CONTRACT QUESTION EVERY TIME.

UH, I'M NOT GOING TO, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING THERE.

WE'RE DOING, WE, WE STILL HAVE SEVERAL YEARS LEFT ON OUR CONTRACT WITH BATTLE CREEK.

UM, AND, UM, I THINK 2023 IS WHEN IT'S UP FOR RENEWAL, BUT I USUALLY ANTICIPATE THAT ONE FROM MR. FOX.

ADDITIONAL QUESTION.

ANYTHING ELSE? NO.

THANK YOU, MR. BARRETT.

UM, DO WE NEED A BIO BREAK? SURE.

A BREAK.

ALL WE HAVE IS THE ONE ITEM, AS FAR AS THE BUDGET AGENDA, IF YOU WANT, I'LL JUST ASK HIM IF ANYBODY'S SAYING, OKAY.

DISCUSSION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021 AND 2022 BUDGET WORK SESSION.

UH,

[F. Discussion – Draft FY 2021-2020 Budget Work Session/Meeting Schedule]

UM, I GUESS MR. DAILY, YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

UM, AND AS A FOLLOW-UP TO MIKE AND BRANDY THIS EVENING, WE HAVE PLANNING AND PARKS ON NOVEMBER 4TH AND FIRE AND RESCUE, AND PROBABLY THE SHERIFF ON NOVEMBER THE 10TH.

AND THEN THE NEXT ONE WILL BE THE TREASURE AND COMMISSIONER AND SOCIAL SERVICES.

UM, ON THAT ONE HERE ON THIS BUDGET, NO, THEY'RE NOT ON THE SHEET.

THIS I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PRESENTATIONS, LIKE WHAT YOU SAW SO THAT IF IT'S PREPARATION AS PART OF MOVING INTO THIS SCHEDULE, UM, THE SCHEDULE IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU SEE HERE.

IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, THINGS YOU WANT TO MOVE, OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE ON YOUR AGENDA NEXT WEEK FOR ADOPTION.

I THINK THE AGENDA'S BUILT SUCH THAT IT HAS SOME FLEXIBILITY.

AND I KNOW MAIN THING WE TRY TO DO IS GET THE BUDGET ADOPTED BY MAY ONE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE SCHOOL HAS TO LET THEIR CONTRACTS.

CORRECT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO DO.

CORRECT.

SO I'M OKAY WITH PUTTING IT ON THERE.

UM, DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN, SIR? OKAY.

THEN THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

UM, WE WILL BE, UM, WE S SENDING PEOPLE WHO LIVE NORTH OF THE BRIDGES HOME TOMORROW AFTERNOON, ABOUT FOUR O'CLOCK.

SO YOU'LL SEE, UH, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY, THEY MAY NOT BE HERE.

SO MR. DAILY, JUST SO ANYBODY WATCHING OR HAT FOR CLARIFICATION, UM, THERE, THERE WILL BE A, IS IT, IS IT A PROTEST? IS THAT WHAT THEY ARE OR COMMEMORATION? DAMMIT, I GUESS I'D CALL IT A DEMONSTRATION.

REALLY A PROTEST OF SOMETHING IT'S RECOGNITION OF MR. FLOYD, THE MR. FLOYD'S BIRTHDAY.

IS GOING TO OCCUR ONLY ON THE SOUTH FORK BRIDGE, NOT NORTH FORK.

AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS DEMONSTRATION

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SO THEY'RE GOING TO COME OUT OF RIVERTON AND TURN LEFT.

OR RIGHT.

CAUSE ALL RIGHT.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO CROW.

THEY ARE GOING TO CROSS THE HIGHWAY PART OF WITH ED, THERE'LL BE ESCORTED, ESCORTED PART OF THE HIGHWAY.

SO THERE WILL BE A DEMONSTRATION ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BRIDGE.

THAT DEMONSTRATION WILL START AT FIVE 30, BUT THE APPROXIMATELY, BUT ALL RIGHT.

SO THERE'LL BE, THERE'LL BE WALKING BETWEEN FIVE 15 AND FIVE 30 ON PROBABLY START WALKING ABOUT FIVE 30.

AND IT'S VERY FLEXIBLE ABOUT WHEN THEY GET UP THERE.

AND WHEN THEY START, THEIR TARGET IS FIVE 30 MA'AM.

UM, AND THEY'LL BE ON THE SIDEWALKS.

AND WILL THERE BE ANY ELECTRONIC NOTIFICATION TO COMMUTERS OR DRIVERS THAT, THAT THERE'S A DEMONSTRATION GOING ON AND THAT THEY SHOULD BE CAREFUL, SLOW DOWN, LOOK OUT? OR IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT PLANNED? WE CAN GET SOME COUNT SIGNS OUT THERE.

UH, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS GOING TO SLOW DRIVE THE OUTER LANES TO KEEP CARS INTO THE FAST LANES IN THE MIDDLE.

SO YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE CARS OUT OF THOSE OUTSIDE.

I'VE HAD MULTIPLE PHONE CALLS TODAY FROM PEOPLE WHO WERE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THEM, YOU KNOW, COMING HOME FROM WORK, SHOULD THEY MAKE ALTERNATE ROUTE PLANS, YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE NOTIFY PEOPLE OF, TO TAKE ALTERNATE ROUTES, THAT SORT OF THING I'VE GOTTEN ALL DAY LONG.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT I UNDERSTOOD THE PLAN SO I COULD ANSWER THE QUESTIONS WHEN I GET THEM.

AND IT'S VERY NOT TO AVOID THE QUESTION, BUT IT'S VERY FLUID BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE OUT THERE.

AND WHEN THEY GET TO THE HALFWAY POINT, THEY'RE BASICALLY GOING TO STOP FOR NINE MINUTES AND THEN AFTER THAT, THEY TURN AROUND AND COME BACK.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO GO HALFWAY UP THE BRIDGE.

THAT'S THE PLAN, THE BRIDGE PAUSE FOR EIGHT MINUTES, EIGHT AND A HALF MINUTES RIGHT AROUND GO BACK.

UH, BOTH, UH, MR. , UH, ANY OTHER, UH, SO THERE IS A, UM, JUST, JUST MAKING THIS CLEAR FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW.

THERE IS ALSO A CELEBRATION OF DR.

BRAD'S LIFE SCHEDULED AT 2:00 PM AT THE RIVERTON UNITED METHODIST CHURCH, WHICH IS CENTER OF THIS EVENT.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I I'M, I'M CERTAIN, THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE.

UM, SO I WAS, YEAH.

I JUST WONDER IF, IF THE PASTOR OF THAT CHURCH MIGHT MAKE GOOD SENSE OF, WE ALERT HIM TO HE'S AWARE.

I'M NOT TRYING TO, I'M JUST TRYING TO, TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

I, I UNDERS YEAH.

SO THE PRIMARY, ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS MR. PORTER, WHAT DID HE USE BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES, BUT THAT'S THE PRIMARY RIGHT.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE BAPTIST CHURCH.

THAT'S ANOTHER WALKER.

SO IT'S THE OLD, IT'S THE OLD RIVERTON UNITED, IT'S THE ORIGINAL CHURCH THAT WAS BUILT IN THE 18 HUNDREDS.

AND THERE'S A PARKING THERE'S PARKING THERE AS WELL BEFORE WE ADJOURN.

UM, WE DISCUSSED AT OUR LAST MEETING, UM, AND MRS. OATES HAD MADE, UM, SUGGESTION THAT WE CREATE A PANEL TO LOOK INTO CHANDEL FARMS. AND I'D LIKE TO GET THAT GOING IF WE COULD, BEFORE WE DO THAT, UM, WE THOUGHT ABOUT, WE THOUGHT ABOUT DOING THAT AND WE WANT TO DO THAT, BUT I WANT TO HEAR MORE OF WHAT THE TOWN OR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY SANITARY DISTRICT CAN DO FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING ALL THAT WE CAN, SO WE CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR THAT PANEL.

SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO RELEARN THE PROGRAM EITHER.

SO, SO ARE WE NOT GONNA TRY TO GO AHEAD AND FIND PEOPLE TO BE ON THAT PANEL? I'M SURE THAT WE CAN START LOOKING, BUT I DON'T WANT TO ADVERTISE UNTIL WE HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE TO BE ABLE TO DO IT CORRECTLY.

AND RESOLUTE ABOUT GETTING THIS THING DONE.

WELL, I, I PERSONALLY JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD THAT I WANT TO GET THIS DONE AND GET IT DONE QUICKLY.

I DON'T WANT TO BE CAUGHT BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL OF WISHING.

WE HAD BEEN MORE PROACTIVE

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I FEEL LIKE WE JUST KEEP KICKING IT.

AND I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE KICKING UP, BUT WHAT'S THE TIMELINE FOR THE NEXT PRESENTATION BY MIKE WITH RESPECT TO THE SCENE? HE AND JORDAN.

YEAH, THAT WAS TO BE ON THE FOURTH, THE FOURTH OF THAT'S YOUR NEXT WORK SESSION? 4TH OF NOVEMBER.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SET UP THE PEOPLE AND THE PANELS AND START TO WORK.

WE'RE MOVING THE MEETING ON THE THIRD TO THE FOURTH REGULAR MEETING BECAUSE OF THE ELECTION, WHICH WE NORMALLY DO.

AND THEN WE FOLLOWED BY A WORK SESSION.

SO, WELL, THE, YOU USUALLY ON THE DAY MEETING, YOU HAVE A WORK SESSION IN THE AFTERNOON.

SO WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS IN THE WORK SESSION.

WELL, THE OTHER THING TOO, AND KNOW, JUST STOOD DOWN FOR CONSIDERATION NOW DON'T EXPECT ANY COMMENTS, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, I THINK TONIGHT WENT RELATIVELY WELL.

AS FAR AS TOM WAS, THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION PRESENTED.

UM, I THINK EVERYBODY DID A GOOD JOB, BUT I WAS JUST THINKING THAT JUST FOR CONSIDERATION, IF MAYBE FUTURE WORK SESSIONS, WHEN THEY'RE NOT PIGGYBACK ON A REGULAR MEETING AND WE START THOSE AT SIX, YOU MAY NOT MAKE IT FOR A SHORTER MEETING, BUT AT LEAST WE'D BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF HERE A LITTLE BIT SOONER, TOO.

JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT NEXT TIME.

WELL, LET ME THROW ONE OTHER THOUGHT OUT FOR YOU, SIR, TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT IS AT YOUR THIRD WEEK MEETING.

YOU USUALLY HAVE A CLOSED SESSION AND THERE'S AN ADVANTAGE TO HAVING THAT CLOSED IN TIME-WISE FOR YOU TO HAVE THAT CLOSED SESSION AT SIX O'CLOCK.

IF WE DO THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED NEXT WEEK IS THE CLOSED SESSION AT SIX O'CLOCK.

UM, THEN YOU MAY WANT SIX O'CLOCK FOR WHAT SUPERVISOR ON THIS MEETING ON THE FOURTH, OR RATHER ON THE 10TH, EXCUSE ME.

ON THE 10TH OF THE WORK SESSION MEETING FOR WHAT SUPERVISOR COLOURS WAS TALKING ABOUT, BEING OPEN, HAVING AN OPEN FORUM, IF ANYBODY WANTED TO COME IN TO TALK OR THE WORST SHOCK, AS LONG AS THEY CAN.

I WAS, I WAS HERE AT SIX IN ORDER FOR PEOPLE TO, IN NO ONE CAME, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN WILDLY PUBLICIZED THAT WE WERE DOING IT.

AND I DID HAVE SOME PEOPLE ASK IF WE COULD CONSIDER INSTEAD OF THREE MINUTES, FIVE MINUTES, AND THAT THEY WOULD, AT LEAST THE ONES THAT ARE ASKED WOULD BE HAPPY WITH FIVE MINUTES.

AND THAT WOULD GIVE 11 PEOPLE A CHANCE TO TALK IN AN HOUR.

IT WOULD, I AGREE.

I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO SAY YES, BUT IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW MANY PEOPLE GOT IT.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

BUT WE HAD TO START WITH A YEAH.

AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AND I, I DON'T MIND BEING HERE AN HOUR EARLY, BUT YEAH, IT'S GOING TO GIVE THEM ONE MEETING A MONTH TO DO THAT WHEN WE AND WE'RE GONNA WORK TO KEEP THESE WORK SESSIONS UNDER WELL UNDER THREE HOURS.