[A. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America]
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SEVEN O'CLOCK, LET'S START WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?
[B. Adoption of Agenda – Additions or Deletions]
FIRST THING ON OUR AGENDA IS THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA, OR IS THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR THERE ARE ANY SUBTRACTION FROM THE AGENDA AS CHAIRMAN I MOVE, WE ACCEPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED.IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS EVERYBODY'S MICROPHONE ON? OKAY.
COULD WE GET OUR ROLL CALL AGAIN, PLEASE? EMILY, MR. CARTER.
AYE, MR. CHAIRMAN, MS. COLORS.
[C. Public Comment Period (60 Minute Time Limit)]
NEXT THING ON OUR AGENDA IS THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.UM, FOR 16 IT'S A 60 MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HERE.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET EVERYBODY, UM, BEING ABLE TO TALK.
WE'LL DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN.
WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT THE TALKING TO A THREE MINUTE TIMEFRAME.
AND FROM THERE, WE'LL JUST, UM, WE'LL TAKE IT.
IT'S NOT INTENDED FOR ANY QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO THE BOARD.
IT IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT ABOUT ANYTHING YOU WANT.
MRS. SHIRAKI HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP? YOU KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW MR. CHAIRMAN MILES ATKINS.
CAN WE GET A NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE? MILES.
HELLO? UH, MILES ATKINS, UH, THREE OH THREE BLUE RIDGE, UH, HERE IN FRONT ROW.
UM, SO I KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE KIND OF HEATED ABOUT HIS STATUE STUFF TONIGHT.
UM, I DON'T BELIEVE IN SECOND PLACE TROPHIES.
FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, YOU LOST THE WAR, GET OVER IT A SECOND THOUGH.
IT'S NOT REALLY WHAT THAT'S ABOUT NOWADAYS.
UH, IT'S KIND OF POLARIZING WHAT EVERYTHING IS AND UM, IN THE SITUATION WITH THE COUNTRY NOWADAYS, UM, MY VIEW ON THIS IS IT'S NOT ABOUT THE NORTH OR SOUTH.
IT'S NOT ABOUT ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WHAT IT IS IS IT'S SUBMISSION IS PEOPLE SUBMITTING TO THE WILL AND LOCAL JURISDICTION SUBMITTING TO THE WILL OF THE FAR LEFT AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
AND I, AS AN AMERICAN, AS A VETERAN WILL NOT BE SUBMITTING.
AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD, AS A COMMUNITY, I YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME.
CAN WE HAVE NO APPLAUSE OR ANY COMMENT FROM THE GALLERY, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A VERY HEATED DISCUSSION AND ARGUMENTS BOTH WAYS, BUT JUST PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU, MR. SHIRAKI HAS ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP GARY CUSHNER, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND GARY CUSHNER AND LIVE IN OH SIX FETCHIT ROAD.
THERE ARE TWO ELEMENTS TO CONSIDER REGARDING THE MEMORIAL ON THE COURTHOUSE LAWN, THE PHYSICAL STRUCTURE AND ITS LOCATION, THE STATUS, THE STATUTE SAT QUIETLY AND MAJESTICALLY FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS WITHOUT CONTROVERSY UNTIL MR. FLOYD WAS KILLED AT THE HANDS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT RECENTLY, AND MEMBERS OF CANCELLED
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CULTURE MADE IT AN ISSUE.THAT RACE WAS A FACTOR IN MR. FLUIDS KILLING, BUT THERE HAD BEEN OTHER RECENT CONTROVERSIAL KILLINGS OF BLACK CITIZENS AT THE HANDS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AND SUDDENLY THE STATUTE TOOK ON THE INTERPRETATION OF OPPRESSION, SLAVERY, AND SOCIAL JUSTICE.
BY SOME, THE STRUCTURE DOES NOT DISPLAY THE CONFEDERATE FLAG OR OTHER SPECIFIC ADVOCACY OF THE CONFEDERACY.
IT JUST CONTAINS THE NAMES OF THE LOCAL CITIZENS INJURED AND KILLED IN THE CIVIL WAR.
IT IS AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE CHARACTER, LOYALTY AND SACRIFICE OF LOCAL MEN WHO SUPPORTED THE SOVEREIGNTY OF STATE RIGHTS OVER SUBMISSION TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THE SOLDIER OR TOP IS A SYMBOL OF THE LIGHTNESS OF EACH PATRIOT LISTED AND DOES NOT REPRESENT THE CONFEDERACY.
IN MY OPINION, IT IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT ANY OF THE PERSONS LISTED ON THE MONUMENT WE'RE ACTUALLY SLAVEHOLDERS.
EACH PERSON HAS THE RIGHT TO VIEW ANY, AN ANIMATE OBJECT AS HE, SHE CHOOSES.
AND IT'S REGRETTABLE THAT SOME VIEW IT IN A NEGATIVE FASHION, BUT THE STATUE HAS NO INTRINSIC OPPRESSIVE MESSAGE.
IT IS FITTING THAT IT SITS ADJACENT TO OTHER WAR MEMORIALS ON THE COURTHOUSE LAWN IN THE CENTER OF OUR TOWN IN FRONT OF A BUILDING.
THAT ITSELF IS ASIS IS A SYMBOL FOR EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW AND A QUALITY OF TREATMENT FOR ALL, REGARDLESS OF THEIR SKIN COLOR OR A COMMUNITY STATURE.
A NONBINDING REFERENDUM HAS BEEN SCHEDULED TO ASSESS THE PUBLIC'S OPINION ON THE STATUE'S FUTURE.
AND IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR OUR ELECTED OR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES TO RESPECT THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY.
ONCE IT'S KNOWN THE REFERENDUM IS A FITTING DETERMINANT IN OUR DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY, SHOULD THE MAJORITY OF THE CITIZENS VOTE TO LEAVE THE MONUMENT UNCHANGED.
MAYBE THE ADDITION OF A PLAQUE COULD BE CONSIDERED IDENTIFYING THAT THE STRUCTURE IS NOT MEANT TO OPPRESS ANYONE IN HOPES THAT IT CEASES TO BE AN ELEMENT OF DIVISIVENESS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
REGARDLESS OF THERE ARE SOME WHO MIGHT CHOOSE TO INTERPRET IT THAT WAY.
WHILE THERE ARE SURELY SPEAKERS TONIGHT WITH PERSPECTIVES DIFFERENT THAN MINE.
I ASK THAT YOU FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON THE OPINIONS FROM ACTUAL CITIZENS OF WARREN COUNTY.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AGAIN, PLEASE KEEP YOUR APPLAUSE, YOUR VOICES TO A VERY, VERY MINIMUM.
WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT.
WE HAVE LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT NEED TO TALK.
MR. SHIRAKI HAS ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN BOARD MEMBERS, PAUL GABBERT, 1221 VALLEY VIEW DRIVE.
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
THE FIRST IS ON THE STATUE, WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO SEE STAY IN PLACE.
IT'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND NOTHING WAS EVER SAID UNTIL THE LATEST GEORGE FLOYD ISSUE.
BUT LET ME SAY THIS I'LL ACCEPT THE VOTER'S DECISION.
IF IT IS UNANIMOUS ON RELOCATION, EXCEPT THAT, AND I'LL ACCEPT IT WITHOUT HOSTAGE
AND I CHALLENGED THE OTHER SIDE WHO WANTED IT? I MOVED TO SAY THE SAME THING IF IT STAYS WHERE IT'S AT.
SO THERE'S A CHALLENGE TO FRONT RURAL UNITES.
THE BIGGER ISSUE FOR ME IS CLOSING THE BRIDGE TO CELEBRATE THE BIRTHDAY OF GEORGE FLOYD.
BY DOING THIS, THE TOWN OF COUNTY A PAVED THE WAY TO FUTURE BRIDGE CLOSINGS FOR ANYONE'S BIRTHDAY.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SAY NO? IF THIS IS HOW I WANT TO CELEBRATE MY BIRTHDAY, FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
WHAT ABOUT WHEN SOMEONE WANTS TO CLOSE IT TO CELEBRATE ROBBERY? LEE'S BIRTHDAY, FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
WHAT ABOUT WANTING TO CLOSE THE BRIDGE DOWN FOR, TO CELEBRATE GEORGE FLOYD'S FIRST DRUG CONVICTION OR HIS CONVICTION ON BREAKING IN A HOUSE AND BEATING A PREGNANT WOMAN ALSO FREE SPEECH.
HI, I'M ALSO GETTING VERY TIRED OF HEARING THE TERMS. WHITE PRIVILEGE AND WHITE SUPREMACY.
WHEN I WAS 15, I WORKED THE SUMMER A SUMMER AS A BRICKLAYER HELPER ALONGSIDE TWO
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BLACK MEN, WAS I CONSIDERED WHITE PRIVILEGE FOR GETTING THAT JOB? I DON'T THINK SO.FRONT RURAL UNITES IS NOW BLOCKING PEOPLE.
ALL THIS LEADS ME TO SAY THE FRONT ROW UNITES ISN'T FOR UNITING BLACK AND WHITE PEOPLE.
THEY'RE DOING, THEY ARE FOR DIVIDING AND DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB AT IT.
UNITES IS NOW BLOCKING PEOPLE FROM THEIR GROUP SITE WHO GAVE THEM THEIR MONEY AND THEIR SUPPORT.
HEY, FACEBOOK, A POST ON FACEBOOK BY THE LEADER OF FRONT ROW, UNITE WROTE ABOUT A PERSON WHO WAS EXTREMELY COMMITTED TO FRONT RULE UNITES WHO GAVE THEIR MONEY, THEIR TIME, THEIR ALLEGIANCE TO THE GROUP.
HIS COMMENT ON FACEBOOK WAS I BLOCKED HER FROM THE GROUP BECAUSE SHE IS A WHITE WOMAN WHO TRIED TO SAY SHE WAS PARKED BLACK.
LET ME REPEAT THAT BECAUSE SHE IS WHITE ALL YOUR TIME IS UP.
HAS ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP? CRAIG ANDERSON.
ONE 10 SUNSET LANE, LINDEN, VIRGINIA.
UM, MAINLY I WANT TO SAY THAT I'M RELIEVED THAT YOU ALL DID A REALLY GOOD JOB ABOUT NOT GOING ALL.
STOP ALL ON US WITH THE COVID THING.
I SAW A LADY THE OTHER DAY AND WA AND WALMART HAD HER MASK ON, YOU KNOW, HER OBEDIENCE TRAINING.
SHE WAS GOING ALONG REALLY GOOD WITH HER MASS.
SHE YANKED IT DOWN, LICKED HER FINGERS TO OPEN THE BAG.
YOU KNOW, UM, WE KNOW THAT THIS THING IS ALL POLITICAL.
UH, THE CDC TOLD US THAT WHAT WAS IT? WE DON'T HAVE 200,000 DEATHS FROM COVID.
THE OTHERS ARE RELATED TO OBESITY AND WHATEVER.
IT'S JUST A POLITICAL FEAR THING.
YOU ALL COULD HAVE WENT ALL GESTAPO ON US, BUT OUR, UH, OUR COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY, HE'S NOT CRACKING THE WHIP HEALTH.
DEPARTMENT'S NOT CRACKING THE WHIP.
WE'RE ALL, UH, MORE OR LESS USING KIND OF SOME COMMON SENSE HERE WITH IT.
THIS IS YOUR ROCKY, AS ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP.
RICHARD HOOVER, MR. CHAIRMAN I'M RICHARD HOOVER, FOUR ONE NINE LIBERTY HALL ROAD, FRONT ROYAL, VIRGINIA.
THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR WAS THE CENTRAL EVENT OF GENERATIONS OF WARREN COUNTY RESIDENTS.
THERE WERE FRONT ROYAL RELATED REMINISCENCES OF ALL TYPES.
MANY OF THESE REMINISCENCES WERE EXHILARATING AND VICTORIOUS BUILT AROUND SUCH FIGURES AS BELLE BOYD AND HER SERVANT AND COMPANION, ELIZA COURSES, STONEWALL JACKSON, AND THE REST OTHER FRONT ROYAL REMINISCENCES WERE BUILT AROUND THE TERRIBLE REALITIES OF THAT WAR.
I THINK ESPECIALLY OF OUR OWN LUCY BUCK, THE YOUNG WOMAN OF BEL AIR WHO KEPT ONE OF THE MOST COMPELLING OF WAR TIME JOURNALS, THE ECONOMIC ANALYSIS OF A RETIRED US ARMY HISTORIAN TELLS US THAT FRONT ROYAL AND WARREN COUNTY DID NOT RECOVER FROM THIS WAR UNTIL THE 1950S.
SOMEHOW OUR NATION SURVIVED THIS FOUR YEAR HORROR AND WAS LAUNCHED INTO AN AFTERMATH OF RECONCILIATION OF NEW AND INTENSE PATRIOTIC FEELING.
GROWING UP IN CLEVELAND, I WAS RAISED TO VIEW BOTH SIDES AS EQUALLY AMERICAN.
I WAS PROUD TO HAVE A CONFEDERATE FOREBEAR AND WOULD HAVE BEEN JUST AS PROUD HAD I HAD ONE WHO HAD FOUGHT FOR THE UNION.
AND SO WE COME TO OUR COURTHOUSE LAWN MONUMENT, COMMEMORATING 600 WARREN COUNTY VETERANS WHO FOUGHT FOR THE CONFEDERACY.
MANY OF THEM WITH THE LETTER K AFTER THEIR NAMES
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STANDING FOR KILLED IN ACTION.THIS MONUMENT IS NO LESS THAN A TESTIMONY TO WHAT WARREN COUNTY WENT THROUGH TO THE BRAVERY SELF-SACRIFICE AND SELFLESSNESS OF ITS SONS, THEIR FAMILIES, AND OF ALL THE OTHERS WHO LOVED AND SUPPORTED THEM REMOVE IT FROM WHERE IT WAS ORIGINALLY PLACED, PLACED BY MANY WHO REMEMBERED WELL, 1861 TO 65, REMOVE IT TO SOME RARELY VISITED LOCATION.
AND YOU NOT ONLY DEGRADE THE MONUMENT AND THE MEN AND CITIZENS FOR WHOM IT STANDS, BUT YOU REMOVE EVERY DAY THAT WHICH TELLS PART OF THE WARREN COUNTY STORY TO PASSING RESIDENTS AND TOURISTS ALIKE FOR THE SAKE OF HISTORY OF RECONCILIATION, OF KNOWING THE COMPLEXITIES OF WHO WE WERE, WHO WE ARE AND OF WHERE WE LIVE.
I ASK THAT YOU LET IT ALONE TO PARAPHRASE A PARK HISTORIAN OF THE GETTYSBURG BATTLEFIELD, WHO FEELS THAT MANY OF HER MONUMENTS ARE ENDANGERED MONUMENTS, WHICH COMMEMORATE A COMPLEX PAST SHOULD REMAIN UNTOUCHED.
SLAVERY ITSELF WAS A COMPLEX INSTITUTION, BOTH AS IT WAS LIVED.
AND IN TERMS OF WHO WE ARE TODAY AS CITIZENS OF WARREN COUNTY, I WISH THERE WERE ALSO A MONUMENT ON THE COURTHOUSE LAWN TO THOSE AFRICAN AMERICANS WHO FOR ALMOST TWO CENTURIES, MR. HOOVER, I HATE TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT WE'VE GOT A THREE MINUTE LIMIT.
HAS ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP KRISTEN IDEN GOOD EVENING, KRISTEN ITIN FOUR OH SEVEN WASHINGTON AVENUE FACT, THE OUTCOME OF A NONBINDING REF REFERENDUM BALLOT QUESTION SYMBOLICALLY MAKES HER THE GENERAL OPINION OF THE VOTING POPULATION.
IT IS UP TO THE BOARD TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP ON THE PROPOSED RELOCATION OF THE CONFEDERATE MONUMENT FACT.
THE BOARD SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO OFFER A FORUM WHERE ALL CITIZENS COULD LEARN ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE MONUMENT AND DISCUSS IT.
THE BOARD NEVER FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH THIS FACT IN THE ABSENCE OF A FORUM FRONT ROYAL UNITES HELD ONE ON OCTOBER 18TH, THE BOARD WAS INVITED.
CHAIRMAN MAYB SAID HE WOULD ATTEND NO ONE FROM THE BOARD ATTENDED FACT, THE SOUTHERN STATES SUCCEEDED OVER THE ISSUE OF SLAVERY, NOT STATES' RIGHTS FACT, THE ARCHITECTS OF LOST CAUSE NARRATIVE ACTED FROM VARIOUS MOTIVES.
THEY SOUGHT TO ROMANTICIZE THEIR ACTIONS AND WHITEWASH HISTORICAL FACT FACT, THE MAJORITY OF CONFEDERATE MONUMENTS WERE ERECTED BETWEEN THE 1890S AND THE 1950S DURING THE JIM CROW ERA OF SEGREGATION AND THE ENACTMENT OF LAWS TO DISENFRANCHISE BLACK CITIZENS.
JAMES GROSSMAN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE AMERICAN HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION SAYS THAT THE INCREASE IN STATUES AND MONUMENTS WERE CLEARLY MEANT TO SEND A MESSAGE.
THESE STATUES WERE MEANT TO CREATE LEGITIMATE, LEGITIMATE GARB FOR WHITE SUPREMACY FACT, PRIOR TO THE JIM CROW ERA, THESE MONUMENTS WERE PLACED IN CEMETERIES, NOT ONCOURSE HEALTH PROPERTIES, FAT WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO MODEL LEADERSHIP AND STAND ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY TO ASSIST OUR COMMUNITY AND HEALING WOUNDS CREATED BY OUR COUNTRY LEFT BY A LEGACY OF SLAVERY, DISENFRANCHISEMENT PEOPLE OF COLOR AND SYSTEMIC RACISM THAT THE MAJORITY OPINION IS NOT ALWAYS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
WARREN COUNTY LEARNED THAT LESSON BACK DURING MASSIVE RESISTANCE.
IF THE NONBINARY NON-BINDING VOTE RETURNS A MAJORITY IN FAVOR OF THE STATUTE REMAINING, I EXPECT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO EDUCATE THEMSELVES THOROUGHLY ON THE ISSUE WITH PRIMARY RESOURCES TO CONSULT WITH HISTORIANS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS ACT WITH EMPATHY AND DO WHAT IS RIGHT.
RELOCATE THE MONUMENT AND WORK TOWARD HEALING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I HAVE HERE A LINK TO THE RECORDING FROM OUR TEACHING THAT HAPPENED ON SUNDAY.
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THAT TO YOU AND YOU CAN PASS IT AROUND.WELL, MR. SHIRAKI HAS ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP? PAUL ALDRIDGE? LET ME HAVE HIM BACK THIS ONE TIME I WENT THE WRONG WAY.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, PAUL ALDRICH, TWO 56 ORCHARD STREET IN FRONT ROYAL.
I'M DISTURBED BY THE FACT THAT WE ARE SPENDING SO MUCH TIME ON THIS ONE, SUBJECT THE SUBJECT, PUT ON THE BALLOT BY YOU ALL FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN TO VOTE ON.
THE RESULT OF THAT SHOULD BE VERY, VERY CLEAR.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT GOES FOR THE REMOVAL OR FOR THE KEEPING IT WHERE IT'S AT.
IF THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY SAY IN A VOTE THAT IT SHOULD STAY, THEN IT SHOULD STAY.
IF THEY SAY THAT IT SHOULD BE MOVED, IT SHOULD BE MOVED, BUT WE HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS THAN A STATUE IN THIS TOWN.
WE HAVE DRUGS RUNNING RAMPANT.
WE HAVE PEOPLE OVERDOSING ALL THE TIME.
WE HAVE CHILDREN BEING ABUSED.
WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN NEEDING FOOD, SHELTER, MEDICAL CARE COULDN'T WE DEVOTE OUR TIME BETTER TO SOLVING THE PROBLEMS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
THEN ARGUING AND DISPUTING A STATUE.
THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR 110 YEARS.
I THINK WE SHOULD WORK TOGETHER TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE PLAGUING THIS COMMUNITY TODAY AND NOT CONTINUE TO ARGUE OVER SOMETHING BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE OFFENDED.
THANK YOU ALL, MR. SHIRAKI HAS ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP NANCY? WHEN NANCY, WHEN ONE, FOUR, SIX LOOK UP POINT WAY IN LINDEN, VIRGINIA, I'M BRINGING TO THE ATTENTION AGAIN TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
ALL OF YOU, DOLORES TONY WALTER, CHERYL NARCI, THAT THERE WAS A NAME CHANGE RECENTLY MADE IN REGARDS TO PROPERTY OWNERS, THE SHADOW FIRMS THAT THEY CALL THEM, THE SHANDA FARMS, PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
THEY AREN'T A PROPERTY ASSOCIATION.
THAT'S BEEN DETERMINED BY A COURT ORDER.
SUBSEQUENTLY I FOUND OUT THAT CERTAIN TAX RECORDS WERE CHANGED FOR USF TO THE SAME NAME, PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
I GAVE YOU THE INFORMATION AND NOTHING HAPPENED, BUT I DID REACH OUT TO MRS. SOURS AND SHE FIXED IT.
SHE SAID, YEAH, THERE WAS A MISTAKE MADE.
WE SHOULDN'T HAVE CHANGED THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL DEEDED TO PROPERTY OWNERS, THE SHADOW FARMS. UM, I GOT SUSPICIOUS.
SO I AVOID INFORMATION FROM THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
AND I FOUND OUT THAT PAYMENTS ARE BEING MADE TO THE SAME NAME IS SHANDA FARMS, PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION, THAT DOES NOT EXIST.
THAT SHOULD CONCERN ARCHIE, CHERYL, WALTER, DELORES, AND TONY.
SO THEY WOULD NOT TELL ME WHO THEY MADE THE PAYMENTS TO, BUT WHO'S CASHING THOSE CHECKS.
SO THAT CONCERNS ME A GREAT DEAL.
AND I'VE ACTUALLY FORWARDED IT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE THAT IS A CONCERN FOR ME.
NOW IT'S NOT JUST ONE INCIDENT.
IT'S, IT'S A SERIES OF EVENTS THAT CONCERN ME.
IT'S JUST NOT CHANGING THE NAME.
THEY'VE CHANGED ON TAX RECORDS AND THEY'VE CHANGED IT IN YOUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT, PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE THE WOLF IS AT YOUR DOOR AND YOU CAN'T JUST KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND IGNORE ME BECAUSE WALTER YOU'VE TOLD ME THAT WE'RE GRIPPERS, BUT I'M A GRIPER WITH A CAUSE I'M HERE FOR THE PEOPLE OF SHADOW FARMS IN OUR SANITARY DISTRICT.
SO MY NEXT POINT, I HAVE A LOT TO SAY, BUT I WANT TO REALLY GO TO THE POINT OF THIS.
THIS IS MY FOYER REQUEST THAT I MADE TO PROPERTY OWNERS OF SHANDA FARMS. YOU'RE IN THIS ROOM FOR A, I, I FIRST OFF THEY ARE PUBLICLY FUNDED.
I THINK THEY'RE ILLEGALLY, PUBLICLY FUNDED, BUT WHEN YOU'RE PUBLICLY FUNDED, YOU ARE OBLIGATED TO THE TAXPAYERS TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL INFORMATION.
OKAY? SO SHENANDOAH FARMS, I HAVE AN EMAIL FROM THEM.
THIS HAS EVERYTHING, BUT THEY'RE PRIVATE CORPORATION.
CAUSE SEE, THEY'RE A PRIVATE NONPROFIT, AND THEY ARE A RECREATIONAL COMMUNITY.
SO I HAD TO HIRE A LAWYER BECAUSE NONE OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THEY'RE YOUR CONTRACTOR.
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NOT WALTER'S CONTRACTOR.IT'S ARCHIE'S CHERYL'S WALTER'S AND DOLORES.
AND TONY'S THAT IS YOUR CONTRACTOR.
WHETHER YOU SIGNED INTO THEIR MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT OR NOT, THAT'S YOUR, THAT IS YOUR CONTRACTOR.
SO I HAD TO HIRE A LAWYER AND I PAID A LAWYER TO SUBMIT THE REQUEST TO PROPERTY OWNERS OF SHADOW FARMS, TO GET STATEMENTS FROM THEM AND SOME UTILITIES JUST FOR ONE YEAR, IT COST ME $300 AND YOU ALL KNOW WHAT? IT WASN'T EVEN COMPLETE BECAUSE OH PLEASE, MOST STATEMENTS COME WITH CHECKS.
I DIDN'T EVEN, I DIDN'T GET A COMPLAINT.
I'M GOING TO DEPLORE SOMEBODY ON THIS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO CALL PROPERTY OWNERS OF SHANDA FARMS. EITHER YOU REFUND MY MONEY, NANCY.
YOU KNOW WHAT? KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD TO A FEDERAL PRISON.
WALTER, MR. SHIRAKI HAS ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP?
HE WENT FOR SIX POINT LANE, LINDEN, VIRGINIA.
MY FIRST ONE DID I COULD MR. MABE YOUR COMMENT UNDER TAPE ON THE SANITARY DISTRICT TRAINING, YOU GUYS HERE CALLING YOUR CONSTITUENTS, YOUR BOULDERS, YOUR CITIZENS, A BUNCH OF DRIVERS THAT WAS UNPROFESSIONAL, SIR.
I WROTE YOU AN EMAIL OR A MONTH AGO.
I'M STILL WAITING FOR A REPLY BACK TO EMAIL AND THE VIOLATIONS OF FOYA BY POS.
YOU GO AND DO SOME BETTER IN THAT.
IF YOU ANSWERED ME BACK IS QUITE THE NORM.
NEXT I'M GOING TO ANSWER MR. BERRY.
HE HAD THE QUESTION ON COMMON PROPERTIES AND POS AF, IF YOU GO AND READ THE A COURT ORDER, I GAVE YOU MATLOCK VERSUS THE OWNERS CHANDEL FARMS, WHERE THEY LOST, AND THEY'RE NO LONGER EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE QUALIFIED OR UH, MENTIONED SPOA.
THIS IS RIGHT IN THERE THAT THOSE PROPERTIES ARE NOT COUNTING PROPERTIES.
AND I QUOTE FROM THE, UH, UH, CASE CULINARY MEANS PROPERTIES WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS OWN LEASED OR REQUIRED BY THE DECORATION OF MAINTAINED OR OPERATED BY A PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION FOR THE USE OF THE MEMBERS AND DESIGNATED AS A COMMON AREA FOR THEM.
THIS IS NOT, THESE ARE NOT CABINET PROPERTIES.
THESE ARE PROPERTIES, DEEDED TO POS F NEXT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT YOU'RE IN VIOLATION OF THAT COURT ORDER BY PUNTING, THESE AS KIND OF PROPERTIES YOU'RE IN VIOLATION OF THE COURT ORDER AND MAKING IT A SANITARY DISTRICT, SIR, YOU WENT AHEAD AND VIOLATE THAT ORDER.
IT SAYS SPECIFICALLY IN THAT ORDER, THAT IS TO BE WITHIN WARREN COUNTY AND WITHIN ONLY COMMON PROPERTIES WITHIN WARREN COUNTY FOR OVER 10, 20 YEARS.
NOW, YOU'VE BEEN FUNDING PROPERTIES IN CLARK COUNTY.
USF WAS LOCATED IN THE CAR COUNTY.
YOU'RE ALSO VIOLATING A STATUTE WHERE IT SAYS THAT YOU'RE HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
YOU HAVE MADE USF A ADVISORY BOARD.
PSF IS GAINING MONEY FROM THE SANITARY DISTRICT.
HOW CAN THEY BE ADVISORY BOARD TEST SANITARY DISTRICT IS STILL GET PAID.
AND IT'S ALSO AGAINST THE SANITARY DISTRICT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT, THERE'S SEVERAL UP REFERENCES TO THE, UH, STATUTE.
IF YOU GO BACK AND HIT THE REFERENCES JUST AFTER YOU LOOK AT THE STATUTE, THEY'RE SPECIFIC FOR WHAT YOU CAN SPEND THAT MONEY ON AND YOU'RE NOT SPENDING IT.
AND YOU SAID GENERAL THERE'S SPECIFICALLY SEA WATER, SEWAGE ROWS, AND KIND OF PROPS AGAIN.
WE FOUND OUT THERE AND I KIND OF PROFITS ARE NOT POA.
SO I'VE ADVISED YOU TO GO AHEAD AND CEASE YOUR FUNDING.
GO AHEAD AND CEASE CALLING THEM A POA ON YOUR WEBSITE.
YOU GO TO THE ONES WITH DIMENSIONS, UH, UH, LOCATIONS AND WHO TO CONTACT.
YOU GOT USF LISTED SE UH, HOA AND A FEW AID IN WHICH HE NOT, SIR.
AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO EMAIL FROM THE RECORD.
WE NEED TO GO TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
WE CANNOT START THE PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE SEVEN 30.
WE CAN START THEM AFTER SEVEN 30.
SO PERSONALLY, AND IT'S UP TO THE BOARD.
I WOULD JUST SAY, WELL, LET THE REST OF THE PEOPLE FINISH THE PUBLIC PRESENTATION
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AND GET THAT PORTION OVER WITH.DOES ANYONE ELSE ON THE BOARD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? ANYBODY ON THE PUBLIC HEARING SIDE THAT IS PAID, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE COMPENSATED FOR THEIR TIME IF THEY, IF THEY WAIT.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP? UH, YES.
I I'M ON MY, I'M UNABLE TO READ YOUR LAST NAME, BUT IT IS STEVE AND JILL.
AND YOU CAN EACH HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT YOUR LAST NAMES WERE.
YOU DON'T WANT TO DUNK STEVE GRAYSON NINE OH FOUR WHEN HE WAY FRONT WOLF, VIRGINIA.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO START TONIGHT SAYING THANK YOU TO ALL THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT POLICE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OUR LOCAL CITIZENS HERE IN FRONT ROYAL WARREN COUNTY, FOR EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING AND STANDING STRONG THROUGH ALL THESE TIMES AND THE COVID SITUATION, AS FAR AS IN REGARDS TO THE STATUE.
UM, ONE THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IS AS WE ERASE OUR HISTORY, WE ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT.
SO REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU STAND RIGHT LEFT BLACK, WHITE NORTH SOUTH, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
AND WITHOUT IT, WE WILL LOSE IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SHIRAKI AS ANYONE OUTSIDE, UH, MS. GRICE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? OKAY.
UH, JULIE CHICORY, GOOD EVENING.
I LIVE AT 37 97 HOUSE VILLE ROAD IN FRONT ROYAL.
AND I RECOGNIZE THAT I'M NOT IN THE MAJORITY TONIGHT.
I'M ALSO PROUD THAT I WAS NOT IN THE MAJORITY WHEN I CHOSE TO BE ONE OF THE 1% OF AMERICANS WHO SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES, MILITARY, EVEN A FEWER PERCENTAGE THAT WERE WOMEN AND EVEN FEWER WHO CHOSE TO REMAIN IN THE MILITARY FOR 20 YEARS.
NOW, I DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CONFEDERATE STATUE AND JUST A FEW THINGS THAT KIND OF DISTURBED ME BECAUSE MY MILITARY SERVICE TOOK ME AWAY FROM HOME.
MY FAMILY HAS BEEN IN VIRGINIA IS FROM VICTORIA.
SO I HAVE A VERY LONG HISTORY HERE, BUT IT TOOK ME AWAY.
AND AT THE CONCLUSION OF OUR MILITARY SERVICE, MY HUSBAND AND I CAME BACK HERE AND IT WAS JUST THIS SUMMER.
AND WE WERE SO DISTURBED TO HEAR ABOUT THE CONTROVERSY OF THE CONFEDERATE MONUMENT.
AND WHAT MOST CONCERNED US WAS THAT IT WAS A CONTROVERSY.
WHAT BAFFLED ME WHEN I WATCHED THE VIDEO FROM YOUR AUGUST MEETING WAS THAT THAT STATUE IS NOT HELPING ANYONE LEARN HISTORY.
AND THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT IS IT'S BEEN THERE FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OR SO.
AND PEOPLE STILL THINK THAT THE CONFEDERACY WASN'T ABOUT SLAVERY.
SO OBVIOUSLY THAT STATUE DOES NOT TEACH HISTORY, MOVING THE STATUE WILL NOT ERASE HISTORY.
AND ACKNOWLEDGING THAT AND ACKNOWLEDGING WHAT HAPPENED DOES NOT HAVE TO DISHONOR OUR ANCESTORS.
AND I SAY OUR, BECAUSE THEY'RE MY ANCESTORS TOO.
I DON'T WANT TO DISHONOR THEM, BUT I DON'T HONOR THEM WITH A LIE.
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE HISTORY.
AND TO RECOGNIZE THAT TIME WERE DIFFERENT THEN, AND PEOPLE HAD DIFFERENT VALUES AND DIFFERENT EDUCATION AND DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE.
I'M NOT JUDGING THEM, BUT I'M SAYING NOW IN THE 21ST CENTURY, WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE WHAT HAPPENED AND THE EFFECT THAT IT HAD, NOT ONLY ON THE 600 MEN WHO MAY NOT HAVE OWNED SLAVES, PROBABLY DIDN'T WHO MAY NOT HAVE EVEN CHOSEN TO GO TO WAR MAY HAVE BEEN CONSCRIPTED.
THAT COULD ALL VERY WELL BE TRUE.
BUT THERE WERE ALSO ACCORDING TO CENSUS AND SLAVE RECORDS, 1500 SLAVES IN WARREN COUNTY.
AND THOSE PEOPLE AREN'T RECOGNIZED ANYWHERE.
AND AS THE COUNTY WENT ON TO IMPROVE ITSELF AND FINALLY GET TO THE POINT WHERE IT COULD FUND A MONUMENT AND GET TO THE POINT WHERE IT COULD GROW.
SOMEONE SAID LIKE IN THE FIFTIES, IT REALLY RECOVERED
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AT THAT TIME.BLACK AMERICANS IN WARREN COUNTY WERE NOT ABLE TO VOTE BECAUSE OF BLACK CODES.
THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO GO TO THE SAME SCHOOLS.
THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO DRINK FROM THE SAME WATER FOUNTAIN.
AND THE LAST THING I JUST LIKE TO SAY AS A MEMBER OF THE UNITED STATES, MILITARY RETIRED, MY HUSBAND, MY FATHER, MY BROTHER, AND MY SON, ALL VETERANS IS THAT WE'RE PROUD TO BE IN WARREN COUNTY, IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, NOT THE CONFEDERATE STATES, THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATUE DOES NOT BELONG ON UNITED STATES.
MR. SHIRAKI DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE? OH YES.
MR. CHAIRMAN, CHRIS NORTH, SIR.
PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOURSELF.
HI, MY NAME IS CHRIS NORTH NINE EIGHT FIVE AFTERWARDS, OR DRIVE GOOD EVENING BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT FOR TAKING IT DOWN.
I KEEP HEARING ENTAILS ABOUT PETITIONS AND OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
UH, YOU KNOW, I HAD A PAPER PETITION SHORTLY BEFORE YOU ALL DECIDED TO DO THE REFERENDUM.
I DID A PAPER PETITION WERE ACTUALLY WENT OUT AND TALKED TO WARREN COUNTY CITIZENS.
I DIDN'T HAVE AN ONLINE PETITION WHERE ANYBODY GETS ON IT FROM ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY.
I WENT OUT AND SPOKE WITH WARREN COUNTY, CITIZENS, WHITE, BLACK, EVERY RACE, CREED, AND COLOR.
THAT'S OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FROM THIS COMMUNITY.
ALMOST 2000 SIGNATURES I GATHERED IN THREE WEEKS, THREE WEEKS IS WHAT I GOT THOSE ALMOST 2000 SIGNATURES.
AND I STOPPED ONCE YOU ALL ANNOUNCED REFERENDUM BECAUSE LET'S FACE IT.
THE PETITION DOES MEAN NO GOOD ANYMORE.
IT'S UP TO THE PEOPLE IN WARREN COUNTY AND I LEAVE THAT IN THEIR HANDS.
I DON'T NEED TO COME HERE AND COMPLAIN TO YOU ALL EVERY WEEK TO TRY TO GET YOU TO DO SOMETHING.
YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO THE PEOPLE HERE.
I KIND OF WROTE THIS LAST MINUTE.
I APOLOGIZE IF I'M STUTTERING.
UH, ONE PERSON STATED THAT WE CAN'T WAIT FOR THE MAJORITY.
WHY IS THAT? NOT HOW DEMOCRACY WORKS? ARE WE NOT A DEMOCRACY? DO WE JUST GOING TO THROW THAT ALL OUT FOR THE VOICES OF A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE COMPARED TO THE WILL, THE REST OF THIS COUNTY, WE ALL PAY TAXES HERE.
A LOT OF US APPRECIATE THAT MONUMENT TO SAY THAT WE CAN'T WAIT FOR THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY IS AN INSULT TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY.
I CAN'T BELIEVE WE'RE EVEN ENTERTAINING SOMEBODY THAT WOULD THROW SOMETHING LIKE THAT OUT THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE IN THAT MONUMENT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENED THERE, THOSE PEOPLE WERE SONS OF THIS COUNTY WERE ALL SENDING TO THIS COUNTY AND DAUGHTER TO THIS COUNTY.
AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE DON'T PUT THEM IN A CORNER.
YOU KNOW, IT TOOK A LOT TO GO DO WHAT THOSE PEOPLE DID.
SOMEBODY SAID YOU CAN'T LEARN HISTORY.
WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BATTLES ON THERE AND YOU LOOK AT THE MORTALITY RATES TO SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE MARCHED INTO AT 70 AND 80% MORTALITY RATES, THOSE WERE BRAVE PEOPLE THAT CAME FROM THIS COUNTY.
AND I AM VERY PROUD THAT I HAVE FAMILY ON THAT MONUMENT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, I APOLOGIZE.
UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WERE TOLD REASONS THAT IT WAS PUT UP WHITE SUPREMACY TO KEEP PEOPLE DOWN.
YOU ALL WERE GIVEN A PAMPHLET.
UH, ONE OF THE EARLIER MEETINGS ON THIS, UH, I KNOW YOU CAN'T RESPOND TO ANY OF THIS, BUT TELL ME WHERE YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING ABOUT WHITE SUPREMACY IN THAT PAMPHLET.
I GUARANTEE YOU, YOU DIDN'T READ IT BECAUSE I READ IT.
I KNOW EXACTLY WHY IT WAS PUT UP.
THOSE MONUMENTS WERE SAID TO HAVE BEEN PUT UP DURING THE JIM CROW ERA.
THEY WERE, THEY WERE PUT UP ON THE 50, 75, 100 YEAR ANNIVERSARIES AND ON ANNIVERSARIES OF BATTLES, UM, WHICH JUST SO HAPPENED TO BE DURING THE JIM CROW ERA.
YOU KNOW, THAT RAN FROM 1870 TO 1950S, THAT WE BLAME THE SPANISH FLU ON JIM CROW AS WELL, BECAUSE IT TOOK PLACE THOSE EXACT TIMES.
YOU SEE HOW RIDICULOUS THAT ARGUMENT SOUNDS.
UM, ANY OTHER ARGUMENT FOR WHY IT WAS ERECTED AS A FALLACY INSTEAD OF OPINION.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE CAN'T FIGHT FOR THEMSELVES ANYMORE.
IT'S NOT HARD TO KICK THE DIRT IN THE FACE OF THE DEAD.
I, I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO FIGHT FOR THOSE THAT CAN'T FIGHT FOR THEMSELVES ANYMORE.
AND JUST REMEMBER THAT, UH, WE'LL HAVE ASS KICKED DEADLINES.
THANK YOU, MR. CARTER IN SALT SPEAK.
HAS ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP CHRIS MOOT? THERE'S CHRIS STOW HERE.
SAM HON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY NAME'S SAM HON.
I LIVE AT ONE OH THREE NORTH FORK LANE.
UH, BASICALLY I'M JUST HERE TO, UH, WELL, I'M GONNA SAY IT LIKE THIS.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HAPPENING NOW IS THE RESULT OF THESE INDIVIDUALS STAYING AT HOME.
THEY WERE ALLOWING THINGS TO WORK THEMSELVES OUT.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT THE MINORITY WHO SEEMS TO BE SCRAPPED SHOUTING THE LOUDEST SEEMS TO OVER O
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POWER.SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING WHAT YOU'RE SEEING NOW.
THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE I HATE CALLING OUT ORGANIZATIONS, BUT FRONT ROW UNITES IS ALSO PLANNING A NOVEMBER 4TH TO COME IN HERE AFTER THE VOTE AND TO THROW A FIT BECAUSE IT MIGHT NOT GO IN THEIR WAY.
THAT TO ME DOES NOT MAKE SENSE AT ALL.
SO I KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING THROUGH, SITTING UP THERE.
THERE'S A LOT OF HARD DECISIONS TO BE MADE.
AND I WANT EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM AND EVERYBODY THAT WATCHES THIS VIDEO TO THINK ABOUT HOW YOU GUYS ARE BEING PUT ON THE SPOT BECAUSE YOU ARE.
AND I'D LIKE TO THANK THE BOARD AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR HOW THEY'VE BEEN HANDLING SOME OF THE SITUATIONS WE'VE HAD IN THIS COUNTY OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
OTHER THAN THAT, YOU GUYS HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP? J LOCKHART HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID, THANK YOU.
THIS IS YOUR ROCKY SAMUEL PORTER.
HELLO? SAMUEL PULLED HER TO 16TH STREET.
SO SOMETIMES LISTENING TO THE COMMENTS FROM OTHERS REALLY SHOWS ME THAT FRONT ROW UNITES BEING HERE AND IN EXISTENCE IS EXACTLY WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
SO I'M SUPER THANKFUL FOR THIS.
UM, OUR CONTINUED, UH, JUST OUR CONTINUED EXISTENCE.
FARNBOROUGH UNITES IS A NONPROFIT DEDICATED TO ERADICATING WHITE SUPREMACY.
AND IT'S AN ORGANIZATION MADE UP OF OVER 2000 RESIDENTS.
SO THAT'S THAT? UM, I HAVE A QUICK STORY.
UM, THERE WAS A LITTLE OLD COUPLE WHO WALKED INTO A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT.
THE LITTLE OLD MAN WALKED UP TO THE COUNTER.
HE ORDERED THE FOOD PAID AND TOOK THE TRAY BACK TO THE TABLE WHERE THE LITTLE OLD LADY SAT ON THE TRAY WAS A HAMBURGER, A SMALL BAG OF FRIES AND A DRINK CAREFULLY.
THE OLD MAN CUT THE HAMBURGER AND TWO AND DIVIDED THE FRIES INTO TWO NEAT PILES.
HE SITS THE DRINK AND PASSED IT TO THE OLD LADY WHO TOOK A SIP AND PASSED IT BACK.
BUT YOUNG MAN ON A NEARBY TABLE HAD WATCHED THE OLD COUPLE AND FELT SORRY FOR THEM.
HE OFFERED TO BUY THEM ANOTHER MEAL, BUT THE OLD MAN POLITELY DECLINED SAYING THAT THEY WERE USED TO SHARING EVERYTHING.
THE OLD MAN BEGAN TO EAT HIS FOOD, BUT HIS WIFE SAT STILL NOT EATING.
THE YOUNG MAN CONTINUED TO WATCH THE COUPLE.
HE STILL FELT LIKE HE SHOULD BE OFFERING HELP.
AND AS THE LITTLE AS THE LITTLE OLD MAN FINISHED EATING, THE OLD LADY HAD STILL NOT STARTED HER FOOD.
SO THE YOUNG BOY SAID, MA'AM WHY AREN'T YOU EATING? AND THE YOUNG MAN SYMPATHETICALLY SAID, THAT'S WHAT THE YOUNG MAN SYMPATHETICALLY ASKED THE LADY, WHY AREN'T YOU EATING? AND THE OLD LADY LOOKED UP AND SAID, POLITELY, I'M WAITING FOR THE TEETH.
SO I JUST BRUNG THAT UP BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT THE DANGERS OF MAKING ASSUMPTIONS.
IT TALKS ABOUT MAKING SURE YOU UNDERSTAND BEFORE YOU INTERVENE.
CLEARLY WHAT FRONT ROW UNITES IS HERE TO DO IS NECESSARY.
PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE THE REAL HISTORY.
WE DID HAVE A TEACHING AND I AM, I HONESTLY AM UPSET THAT NONE OF Y'ALL SHOWED UP.
IT WASN'T JUST THE FRONT RULE.
UNITES SAM PORTER, THE INDIVIDUAL THING.
WE HAD THE DEAN OF HUMANITIES FROM LORD FAIRFAX COME.
I THINK IT WAS JUST A LITTLE DISRESPECTFUL FOR NO LEADERSHIP TO BE THERE.
SO I'M NOT INTERESTED IN ARGUING OR MAKING INDIVIDUAL ATTACKS.
LIKE YOU'VE HEARD IN THE BACKGROUND ABOUT ME, THE INDIVIDUAL OR FRONT ROW UNITES THE ORGANIZATION.
I'M INTERESTED IN THE HISTORY AND UNDERSTANDING IT.
I DON'T HAVE TIME TO ARGUE AND BE MEAN TO OTHERS.
THAT'S NOT WHAT FRONT ROLE UNITES IS ABOUT PEACE, LOVE AND UNITY.
AND THAT'S A HILL I'M WILLING TO DIE ON.
THANK YOU, MR. SHIRAKI OR DOES ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP DON BROADWAY, DON BROADWAY, 57 PEPPER COURT, LINDEN, VIRGINIA.
GOOD EVENING BOARD, UH, CHAIRMAN AND THE BOARD.
THANK YOU FOR, UH, OPENING UP THIS SESSION FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'D FIRST LIKE TO COMMEND YOU ALL AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING IT A PORTION OF THE BALLOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO VOTE ON THIS COMING NOVEMBER 3RD.
I THINK THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT WAY TO APPROACH THIS CONTENTIOUS SITUATION AND, UH, DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA TURN OUT, BUT I THINK THAT WAS A REAL SMART WAY TO APPROACH, UH,
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FINDING OUT HOW THE PUBLIC FEELS ABOUT THIS ISSUE.I RISE THIS EVENING IN SUPPORT OF LIGHTING THE STATUE ON OUR COURTHOUSE LAWN REMAIN THERE.
UH, I THINK IT'S A PIECE OF OUR HISTORY.
UH, I BELIEVE THAT IT BRINGS ACTUALLY UNITY AND BRINGS COMMERCE TO OUR, OUR FEAR OF TOWN.
UH, WHAT'S GONNA BE NEXT IF WE REMOVE THAT THE REST OF THE CIVIL WAR, CIVIL WAR TRAIL, PLACARDS THAT ARE ON OUR HIGHWAYS AND BYWAYS.
UM, I JUST THINK IT'S THE WRONG DECISION TO TRY AND ERASE HISTORY.
I THINK IT'S THERE FOR A GOOD PURPOSE AND, UH, I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND I DON'T SEE IT AS A DIVISIVE THING.
AND, UH, I THINK IT'S, UH, AN ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I JUST WANTED THE RISE IN SUPPORT OF MAINTAINING THE PRESENCE OF IT THERE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, MR. SHIRAKI HAS ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP JEREMIAH LUCAS? ALRIGHT.
UM, FIVE EIGHT, SIX, SEVEN STROUDSBURG ROAD, STROUDSBURG, AND UH, LIKE NEW WHO COULD HONESTLY SAY THEY WAKE UP IN THE MORNING AND THEY THINK THAT A STATUTE BOTHERS THEM THAT MUCH, THAT THEY NEED TO REMOVE IT.
WE'VE LOST SO MUCH HISTORY OF THE MILLENNIA.
YOU LOOK BACK AT EGYPT, THEY'VE ALL SOLD THEIR STATUTES, PEOPLE THERE'S MYSTERIES THERE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY JUST GOT AN IDEA IN THEIR HEAD BECAUSE THEY WERE WATCHING TV ONE DAY, THE NEWS AND CANCELLED CULTURE SAID, LET'S GET RID OF THESE STATUES, THESE MONUMENTS, THEY STAND FOR THIS.
THEY WANT TO DIVIDE EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, ALL THE LEFT DEMOCRATS, THEY WANT TO DIVIDE ALL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, GIVING THEM SOMETHING TO FIGHT ABOUT AND KEEP EVERYONE DIVIDED INSTEAD OF COMING TOGETHER, MAKE THE WORLD BETTER.
THIS IS AND A FRONT ALL UNITES.
IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S ALL THEY'RE DOING.
OBVIOUSLY THEY'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH A WHITE WOMAN THAT WAS IN THEIR GROUP.
I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE RACIST TO ME.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE FIGHTING RACISM.
SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, NEED TO TURN OFF THE TV AND WORRY ABOUT SOME REAL PROBLEMS SAID, MR. SHIRAKI, ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP? MIKE MAYER FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANTED TO STATE MY OPINION.
THE YOUNG LADY IN CHARGE OF THE SPEAKERS LIST HAS A TREMENDOUS LAST NAME.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF FUN TO SAY OUT LOUD.
I SALUTE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
I WAS SO EXCITED ABOUT YOUR NAME.
I GOT, MY NAME IS MIKE MAYER, ONE ZERO EIGHT PEBBLE LANE, FRONT ROW, VIRGINIA.
BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING ABOUT YOUR GREAT LAST NAME SOUNDS GREAT.
IT'S A LOT OF FUN TO SAY OUT LOUD.
I SALUTE YOU IN ALL THOSE WHO CARRY THAT AWESOME NAME AND ALSO SALUTE THE TONY CARTER FOR LETTING THE PEOPLE SPEAK TONIGHT.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, BOYS AND GIRLS, CHILDREN OF ALL AGES.
IT IS SUCH AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY THIS EVENING TO APPROACH THE PODIUM AND ADDRESS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE FINE PEOPLE AT WARREN COUNTY.
I'M HERE TONIGHT AS A MAN OF THE PEOPLE, NOT THE OBNOXIOUSLY VOCAL ILL INFORMED EMOTIONALLY IN THAT, THEN ASININE MINORITY.
SOME OF WHOM MAY OR MAY NOT BE WELCOME AT THE LOCAL TROPICAL SMOOTHIE NOWADAYS, BUT OF THE FINE PEOPLE WHO MAKE UP THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS COUNTY'S POPULATION WHO WISH TO TELL Y'ALL THEY'RE ON THE ELEVATED PLATFORM THIS EVENING, THAT IS HARD TIME TO REEL IT IN.
AS FAR AS HUMOR IN THAT MINORITY GOES FEW DAYS AGO, WARREN COUNTY DEVOTED PRECIOUS RESOURCES TO AN EVENT PUT ON BY THAT MINORITY LOSING STEAM IN THEIR RIDICULOUSLY NON-REALITY BASED MOVEMENT, CELEBRATING THE BIRTHDAY, UH, EXCUSE ME, CELEBRATING THE BIRTHDAY OF A CAREER CRIMINAL WHO DIED AS A RESULT OF A FENTANYL AND METHAMPHETAMINE OVERDOSE WHILE RESISTING ARREST.
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OF THE VAST MAJORITY, I ASKED YOU, WHEN DO WE PUMP THE BRAKES ON HUMORING THAT MOVEMENT AND SEEK OUT A BIT BETTER USE OF OUR COUNTY'S RESOURCES? WOULD THAT, ARE YOU ON MY TIME AND LEAVE YOU AND SAYING, GOD BLESS AMERICA.AND ALL OF Y'ALL CRYING ABOUT THE DAMN STATUE.
YOU'LL BE TOLD WHAT TO BE OUTRAGED ABOUT SOONER THAN LATER HAVE GOOD NIGHT JOB, MR. SHIRAKI HAS ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP? THAT'S GOING TO BE A TOUGH SPEAKER TO FOLLOW.
MY NAME IS RALPH AND ALL DAY I LIVE AT 47 TWO FIVE HOUSE ROAD, FRONT ROW, VIRGINIA.
I'M HERE AS THE CHAIRMAN OF P O S F.
UM, IN REGARDS TO THE WORK SESSION CONCERNING SANITARY DISTRICTS, IT IS APPARENT THERE IS SOME CONFUSION ON THE OPERATION OF SHENANDOAH FARMS. I'M NOT HERE TO DISCUSS THE CONFUSION, BUT RATHER OFFER, UH, AN INFORMATION TYPE PRESENTATION BY POS F JUST SET A TIME AND A DATE FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST AS EXCUSE ME, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT HAVE YOU, UM, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT YOUR EMAIL? NO, NOT YET.
WE DID THAT TODAY, THEN I'LL FINISH ANYWAY.
UM, JUST SET A TIME AND DATE FOR THE PRESENTATION AND PLS F WILL BE THERE.
WE WANT TO WORK WITH ALL OF YOU AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST IN PARTNERSHIP FOR THE SUCCESS, THE CONTINUED SUCCESS OF SHANANDOAH FARMS. UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, GOT IN LATE AND DIDN'T CHECK MY EMAIL, WALTER.
HAS ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP? I BELIEVE IT'S RICK KARA COUGH.
AND I'M SORRY IF I MISPRONOUNCED YOUR LAST NAME.
COSKATA HI, MY NAME IS LAURA COSKATA I'M AT 79 MAGNOLIA DRIVE.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT AS WE LOOK AROUND HERE, ALL THE PEOPLE SPEAKING FOR THE STATUE ARE WHITE AND WHITE.
AS WHITE PEOPLE, WE HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED THE OPPRESSION THAT BLACK PEOPLE HAVE EXPERIENCED.
WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THAT FEELS LIKE.
WHITE PRIVILEGE IS A REAL THING.
IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU HAVEN'T STRUGGLED THAT YOU HAVEN'T SUFFERED BECAUSE HE HAS ALL OF US HAVE AND SUFFERED.
IT MEANS THAT WHEN COMPARED TO A BLACK PERSON IN THE SAME SITUATION, YOU HAVE A LEG UP OVER THEM BECAUSE OF THE INSTITUTIONS UPON WHICH THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE'VE STRUCTURED OUR SOCIETY TO AUTOMATICALLY DISENFRANCHISE AND HURT BLACK AND OTHER PEOPLE OF COLOR.
BECAUSE YOU ALL WEREN'T AT OUR MEETING THIS PAST WEEKEND, YOU DIDN'T HEAR THE STORY OF SUNITA FREEMAN.
SHE WAS A WOMAN WHO COULD NOT EVEN GO TO SCHOOL BECAUSE OUR COUNTY WOULD HAVE RATHER SHUT DOWN THE SCHOOL THAN ALLOW HER IN BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF HER SKIN.
AND THIS IS ONLY 50, 60, 70 YEARS AGO THAT THIS STUFF WAS HAPPENING.
SIR, PLEASE KEEP YOUR WORDS TO YOURSELF.
THE STUFF STILL GOES ON TODAY.
WE HAVE BARELY PASSED A GENERATION FROM WHEN SHE WAS LOCKED OUT OF SCHOOL.
SHE CONTINUED TO SPEND HER ENTIRE CAREER COMMUTING TO NORTHERN VIRGINIA BECAUSE SHE COULDN'T GET A FAIR JOB HERE.
SO THAT WOULD, THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS WHEN BLACK PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY'RE OPPRESSED, WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE ALL HAVE AS WE'RE WHITE.
AND IT IS OUR JOB TO MAKE THE PLAYING FIELD MORE EQUAL FOR THEM AND OPEN OPPORTUNITIES TO THEM.
AND THE FACT THAT THEY'RE WALKING AND SEEING THE STATUE EVERY SINGLE DAY, REMINDING THEM THAT NOT TOO LONG AGO, THEY WERE PROPERTY.
THEY THEMSELVES IS UNACCEPTABLE.
NONE OF THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE HURT BY THE STATUTE BEING RELOCATED TO ANOTHER SPOT WHERE THEY CAN CONTINUE TO HONOR THESE VETERANS, NOT ON OUR HOUSE OF JUSTICE.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO CLOSE WITH A QUOTE FROM GARY CUSHNER.
SO YOU ALL CAN SEE THE REAL MOTIVATIONS THAT ARE HIDING BEHIND THESE WORDS.
YOU SHOULD BE THANKFUL FOR YOUR, THAT YOUR
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ANCESTORS WERE SLAVES.THERE WAS A STATEMENT MADE BY A PERSON WHO HAS SPOKEN TODAY SAYING THAT YOU SHOULD BE THANKFUL YOUR ANCESTORS WERE SLAVES BECAUSE THEY PAVED THE WAY FOR YOUR FREEDOM.
OTHERWISE YOU'D BE LIVING IN A GRASS MUD HUT IN SOME BLANK COUNTRY.
YOU LIVE IN THE FREEST COUNTRY ON THE PLANET.
NOW HOW ABOUT APPRECIATING THAT YOU INTEGRATE THESE KINDS OF SENTIMENTS ARE HIDING BEHIND THIS NOTION OF AN IDYLLIC HERITAGE THAT DOES NOT EXIST.
THANK YOU, MR. SHIRAKI HAS ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP MR. CHAIRMAN? THERE'S NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ONE AT A TIME? A REMINDER YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
MY NAME IS TIM RADIGAN AND THEN AT SIX ZERO SEVEN NINE STONEWALL JACKSON HIGHWAY.
ALTHOUGH I HADN'T TOLD HIM BEFORE, I LOVE AT THE REAL POSSIBILITY OF PEOPLE ARE GOING AFTER THAT PARTICULAR NAME CAN CHANGE THAT HIGHWAY'S NAME.
I PROMISED MYSELF THAT I WOULD NEVER USE MY SKIN COLOR OR MY RACE TO MAKE A POINT.
THE OTHER SIDE TALKS ABOUT OPPRESSION TALKS ABOUT A RACE BEING ENSLAVED AND IMPRESSED OR OPPRESSED.
MOST OF YOU KNOW, IRISH HISTORY, THE IRISH RACE HAS BEEN OPPRESSED BOTH IN OUR OWN HOME COUNTRY AND IN THE UNITED STATES.
I REMEMBER MY GRANDFATHER TELLING ME A STORY ABOUT HIS GREAT GRANDFATHER.
THEY WERE WALKING DOWN THE STREET IN A POORER SECTION OF NEW YORK.
ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, THERE WAS A WHITE BUSINESSMAN WHO HAD IN HIS SIGN OR IN HIS WINDOW.
NO IRISH NEED APPLY A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD AND A PREDOMINANTLY AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
THERE IS A SIGN IN THAT WINDOW THAT SAID, NO IRISH NEED APPLY.
OR OUR ANCESTORS ARE ALL EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSLAVING AND IMPRESSING OTHER PEOPLE.
THE IRISH DID IT WHEN THEY KIDNAPPED SAY PATRICK, OKAY, MEANING THAT MY RACE WAS AT FAULT AS WELL.
IF YOU LOOK THROUGHOUT HISTORY AND WE ALL KNOW THE AFRICAN MUSLIMS, WHAT RESPONSIBLE FOR CATCHING THE SLAVES OR CATCHING THE AFRICANS AND TURNING AROUND AND SELLING THEM RIGHT TO THE SLAVE TRADERS.
WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE ALL OF US, OR SHOULD I SAY ALL OF OUR ANCESTORS? THERE WAS A VERY INTERESTING QUOTE FROM STAR TREK, AND I'LL SAY IT REAL FAST.
YOU SHALL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SINS OF YOUR FATHERS OR YOUR ANCESTORS.
AND I'LL SAY THIS, THIS IS ANOTHER QUOTE FROM A VERY FAMOUS ACTOR WHO ONCE WHO DIED OF CANCER, I KNOW WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY NAMES.
I WILL SAY HIS NAMES BASED OFF OF A VERY FAMOUS MOVIE CALLED DIRTY DANCER.
HE SAID, NOBODY PUTS BABY IN THE CORNER.
I SAY, NOBODY PUTS IN A CORNER.
UH, YOU SIR,
AND, UH, THANKS FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE, SIR.
MY NAME IS RANDY GARDNER ONE FIVE ONE SOLITUDE LANE, GORE, VIRGINIA.
MY FAMILY NAME IS SIMPSON AND WHITE LAW.
THE SIMPSONS TAKE UP A WHOLE WALL IN YOUR CONFEDERATE MUSEUM RIGHT HERE IN YOUR TOWN.
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OUR FAMILY DONATED THEIR WEAPONS, THEIR UNIFORMS, THEIR LETTERS TO THEIR FAMILY, WHICH WOULD BE NICE.IF SOME OTHER PEOPLE WOULD READ THOSE LETTERS AND UNDERSTAND HOW THESE MEN FELT WHEN THEY LOST THEIR FIVE SONS.
THEY'RE BURIED HERE UP ON THE HILL AS WELL.
THEIR MONUMENTS ARE UP ON THE HILL AS WELL.
BOTH SIDES OF THIS WHOLE THING HAVE RACIST PEOPLE, BOTH SIDES, OKAY? IT'S A GIVEN, BUT WHAT HAPPENED A HUNDRED YEARS AGO, DOESN'T MAKE ME WHO I AM.
DOESN'T MAKE ANYONE ELSE WHO THEY ARE NEED TO MOVE ON.
YOU MEET NEED TO PUT YOUR BIG BOY PANTS ON AND VOTE AND LEAVE YOUR CONFEDERATE MONUMENTS, WHERE THEY ARE DRIVE UP TO ANTIETAM, SET THE PLATE.
NEXT PLACE THAT YOU KNOW, BLM IS GOING TO GO TO AND SAY, TAKE THE MONUMENTS DOWN.
YOU COULD TAKE DOWN TO UNION MONUMENTS TOO.
DID YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF THE CONSEQUENCES AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT HERE, BURNING STUFF, LOOTING CAUSING THE EVIL, THE CORRUPTION.
THEY HAVE NO IDEA OF THE CONSEQUENCES THAT WILL FACE THEM IN THE FUTURE.
AND I'M HERE TO PREACH IT TO YOU GUYS.
I'VE PREACHED IT TO OTHER PEOPLE.
OTHER BOARDS OF SUPERVISORS, ORANGE COUNTY HAS A STATUTE ALMOST IDENTICAL TO YOUR STATUTE.
THEY'RE FIGHTING TO TAKE THAT DOWN.
MY GRANDFATHER'S GREAT GRANDFATHER'S NAME WAS ON THAT STATUTE.
I KNOW WHAT PEOPLE DID BACK IN THE DAYS.
AND BACK IN THE TIME, IT WASN'T RIGHT.
IT WASN'T FAIR TO EVERY RACE, BUT THIS IS 2020.
IT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH US.
THE GROUPS THAT SAY THEY'RE FOR A RACE ARE THE MOST RACIST GROUP OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT NOW YOU CAN SAY THAT IT'S NOT THE GOOD PEOPLE IN YOUR TOWN AND IN YOUR COUNTIES.
I DON'T EVER WANT TO SPEND A DAY IN JAIL.
I PROBABLY WOULDN'T MAKE MAKE IT IN JAIL, BUT I'M SAYING THAT WE LIVE OUR LIVES LIKE OUR GRANDPARENTS AND OUR PARENTS TAUGHT US STRAIGHTENED ARROW.
YOU SHOW THE RESPECT TO OTHER PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE GIVEN.
AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF US GUYS IN HERE, MEN AND WOMEN, WE CAN SAY WE HAVE BEST FRIENDS OF COLOR FROM OTHER COUNTRIES, OTHER RACES, OTHER CULTURES.
THEY'RE MY BEST FRIENDS AND A NEED TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES LIVING TODAY, NOT THE PAST
CAN I MAKE ANOTHER SUGGESTION PLEASE, TOO? CAN WE TAKE FIVE MINUTES SO THAT ALL THE GOOD PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT HERE CAN LEAVE PEACEFULLY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO STAY HERE.
OUR RECESS IS OVER, UM, RE READY RIGHT NOW TO GO INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARING PORTION.
[J1. Ordinance to Amend and Re-Ordain Section 150 of the Warren County Code re: Soil Erosion and Sedimentation Control – David Beahm]
FIRST ITEM ON OUR PUBLIC HEARING AS THE ORDINANCE TO AMEND OR REAR ORDAIN, SECTION ONE 50 OF WARREN COUNTY CODE SOIL EROSION SEDIMENT AND SEDIMENTATION CONTROL.MR. BEAM, EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIR.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD SINCE JULY 1ST, 2014, WHEN THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY WAS OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED BY VIRGINIA TO OVERSEE THE EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL PROGRAM.
ALONG WITH THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, MANY CHANGES HAVE TAKEN PLACE.
MANY OF THE CHALLENGE CHANGES HAVE MADE HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE WARREN COUNTY CHAPTER ONE 50 A VERSION INSTEAD OF CONTROL HAVE COME FROM THE TRANSITION ALONG WITH THE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN PLACE.
SINCE THAT TIME, THE FOCUS OF THIS UPDATE ARE THREEFOLD.
WE'RE REPLACING OUTDATED CODE SECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGED, PROVIDE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY.
THAT CHANGED AS A RESULT OF THE NEW TERMINOLOGY TO ASSIST SINCE CITIZENS, CORRECT INFORMATION ON SUBMISSIONS TO REFLECT HOW BUSINESS IS BEING TRANSACTED WITH THE NEW TECHNOLOGY.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE,
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OR JUST WANTING TO REMEMBER WHEN THIS WAS FIRST BROUGHT UP AND IT'S LIKE, THE STATE DOES A LOT OF TIMES THEY PASS ORDINANCES OR LAWS WITHOUT ACTUALLY UNDERSTANDING THE IMPLICATIONS.SOMETIMES YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMMENT.
THAT IS AN ACCURATE STATEMENT, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE TO ME THAT WE HAD THE CHOICE THAT THE LOCAL BUILDING DEPARTMENT COULD TAKE CARE OF SOIL AND EROSION, OR WE COULD LET IT GO TO THE STATE, WHICH WOULD BE ADDITIONAL TIME INVOLVED FOR OUR, UH, CITIZENS OR IF WE DID IT.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T THINK THEY GAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING OR, OR ELSE.
I JUST REMEMBER THOSE, THOSE ISSUES IN, IN 2014, WE UNDERTOOK ACTUALLY IT WAS 2013.
WE UNDERTOOK A MAJOR PROCESS TO GO THROUGH AND COMBINE AN EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL PROGRAM AND STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM THAT NEVER TOOK PLACE IN WARREN COUNTY.
THE LEGISLATURE DECIDED THAT YOU HAD TO OPT IN IF YOU CHOSE TO, IF YOU WANTED TO DO STORMWATER PRIOR TO THAT FINAL LEGISLATION, WHICH CABIN RIGHT BEFORE THE JULY 4TH, FIRST 2014 TIMEFRAME, IT WAS MANDATED THAT THE COUNTY TAKEN OVER WITH NO FUNDING.
IT WAS AN UNFAIR, FUNDED, MANDATED UNFUNDED MANDATE.
HOWEVER YOU COULD CHARGE INDIVIDUALS FOR THAT SERVICE.
THEY HAD FEES SET UP TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
THEY'RE FINDING AT THIS POINT IN TIME THAT THOSE FEES ARE NOWHERE NEAR COVERING THE COSTS OF WHAT THEY WERE TELLING US TO HAVE TO DO.
SO WARREN COUNTY CHOSE AT THAT TIME, LIKE MO MOST OF OUR JURISDICTIONS AROUND US IN THE LORD, FAIRFAX, SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT CHOSE NOT TO IMPLEMENT A STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
WE DID THAT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
THEY, THEY PUT IN PLACE LAWS AND ORDINANCES WITHOUT REALLY KNOWING WHAT THE EFFECT IS GOING TO BE.
AND THIS ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE WAITED AS LONG AS WE HAVE, BECAUSE WE KNEW CHANGES WERE GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND WE WANTED TO SEE WHERE THE FALLOUT FAT CAME AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'RE UNDER REVIEW.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UPDATE THE ORDINANCE PROPERLY AT THIS TIME.
WHAT WAS ANOTHER THING I REMEMBER BEFORE THEN TOO? PROBABLY 2006, SEVEN, SOMEWHERE ALONG THERE, WHERE THEY PASSED THE ORDINANCE, WHERE YOU HAD TO GO OUT TO A SITE AND INSPECTED FOR EROSION EVERY TWO WEEKS.
AND IF THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT WEATHER EVENT, YOU HAD TO GO OUT THERE WITHIN 48 HOURS.
NO COUNTY HAD THE MANPOWER TO IMPLEMENT THAT.
I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT.
HOWEVER, THEIR RECORDS WON'T REFLECT THAT THEY, THEY DO REFLECT A LOT OF TIMES THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SOME OF THE JURISDICTIONS ACTUALLY DO SOME OF THE LARGER JURISDICTIONS, BUT THEY'RE COMPLETE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE SET UP TO HANDLE THAT SPECIFICALLY.
AND WHEN I SAY COMPLETE DEPARTMENTS, I'M TALKING PROBABLY AN EXCESSIVE 15 TO 20 INSPECTORS FOR JUST THE EROSION AND SOME CONTROL.
OKAY, GO AHEAD, MR. GO AHEAD, MR. PAUL, THE CONTRACT IS BEING KEPT UP TO DATE AND THE CHANGES IS COMING DOWN FROM RICHMOND REGULAR BASIS SO THAT THEY DON'T MAKE MISTAKES AND SOIL EROSION.
MOST OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THIS DOCUMENT THIS EVENING HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN TAKING PLACE ALL ALONG.
AND WE HAVE BEEN INFORMING THEM AS WE GO ALONG.
THESE ARE JUST PUTTING IT INTO OUR, OUR COUNTY CODE SO THAT IT ACTUALLY REFLECTS WHAT'S THERE.
SO PRIOR TO THIS, IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO CHALLENGE SOME OF THESE, THEY MAY HAVE AN ARGUMENT BECAUSE THE WARREN COUNTY CODE DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT.
HOWEVER, WE REFERENCED IT BACK TO THE STATE REQUIREMENTS AND THEREFORE IT CAN BE ENFORCED IN THAT FASHION.
SO THEY'RE BEING KEPT UP TO DATE.
SO MR. BEAM, I HAVE A QUESTION, UM, FOLLOW UP TO WHAT MR. CARTER HAD TO ASK YOU.
SO WHAT IN FACT ARE THE, THE STRINGENT CONDITIONS OF THIS, OR WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF THIS NEW CHANGE? SO YOU SAID YOU GUYS POSTPONE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS IN ORDER TO AVOID THE VERY DIFFICULT REQUIREMENTS HANDED DOWN BY THE STATE.
ARE THOSE REQUIREMENTS STILL IN HERE? YES AND NO.
THE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN PLACED THERE ALREADY.
WE HAVE JUST NOT UPDATED OUR COUNTY CODE.
LIKE I WAS EXPRESSING TO MR. FOX BECAUSE WE ALSO REFERENCED THE EROSION SEVEN CONTROLLED MANDATED BY THE STATE.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE THOSE IN FORCE.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT IN THE WARREN COUNTY CODE.
THEREFORE THERE'S A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE TWO.
THERE COULD BE THAT ARGUMENT BETWEEN OURS, BUT SO IT JUST WASN'T CODIFIED.
BUT YOU WERE, BUT YOU WERE FOLLOWING THE REQUIREMENT NONETHELESS STATUS, CORRECT? YEAH.
ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF
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PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.MR. SHAHRAKI HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP? NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP MR. CHAIRMAN.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IF THERE IS NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? THIS IS FINAL CALL PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? I MOVED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE UPDATED CODE SECTIONS, INCREASED INFORMATION, AND I PAID THE POLICIES AS RELATED TO NEW TECHNOLOGY AND REORDERING CHAPTER ONE 50 OF THE WARREN COUNTY CODE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION OR COMMENT? CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. FOX.
MR. CHAIRMAN, MS. OATS, MR. CARTER.
[J2. Ordinance to Establish the Shannon Woods Sanitary District – Mike Berry]
NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH THE SHANNON WOODS SANITARY DISTRICT.MR. BARRY, GETTING YOU MR. CHAIRMAN BOARD MEMBERS, THE WARREN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS RECEIVED A PETITION SIGNED BY OVER 50% OF THE QUALIFIED VOTERS REQUESTING THAT A SANITARY DISTRICT BE CREATED FOR THE SHANNON WOODS SUBDIVISION LOCATED OFF MORGAN'S FORD ROAD.
THE PROPOSED DISTRICT INCLUDES A TOTAL OF 12 HOMES AND 14 LOTS AT THE PICTET ON THE MAP THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF.
IF A SANITARY DISTRICT IS ESTABLISH, THE COUNTY WILL APPOINT AN ADVISORY BOARD MADE UP OF RESIDENTS OF THE DISTRICT.
THE ADVISORY BOARD WOULD SUBMIT A PROPOSED BUDGET AND TAX RATE ANGLING TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WOULD REVIEW THE REQUEST, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE A BUDGET AND TAX RATE.
THE COUNTY WOULD SUBSEQUENTLY BILL RESONANCE OF THE SANITARY DISTRICT AS PART OF THEIR SEMI-ANNUAL REAL ESTATE TAX BILL.
THE COUNTY CHARGES, A RATE OF 5% PLUS $350 IN RETURN FOR HANDLING THE COLLECTION OF SANITARY DISTRICT TAXES.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ADVANTAGES IN YOUR AGENDA ITEM.
I WON'T READ ALL OF THOSE UNLESS YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO, UM, AS PROPOSED THE SANITARY DISTRICT, OPERATIONS WILL BE MANAGED BY THE COUNTY'S PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
THE DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY MAINTAINS THE OVERSIGHT OF SHADOW FARMS, LAKE FRONT, ROYAL OSPREY LANE, LINDEN HEIGHTS AND WILDCAT DRIVE SANITARY DISTRICTS AS PART OF LEGAL PROCESS TO ESTABLISH THE DISTRICT.
THE COUNTY IS REQUIRED TO MAKE A FINDING OF FACT OF WHETHER CREATION OF THE DISTRICT IS NECESSARY PRACTICAL, FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND SUPPORTED BY AT LEAST 50% OF THOSE PERSONS WHO OWN REAL ESTATE PROPERTY.
AND THE PROPOSED DISTRICT AS MENTIONED THE PROPOSED SANITARY DISTRICT INCLUDES 14 LOTS BUT 13 PROPERTY OWNERS.
IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE PETITION IS SUPPORTED BY THE MAJORITY OF PROPERTY OWNERS, COUNTY STAFF MAILED, MAILED THE TACH SURVEY TO DETERMINE IF THE LANDOWNER WAS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST OUT OF THE 13 PROPERTY OWNERS, A TOTAL OF NINE RESPONDENT, THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED DISTRICT AND THREE AGAINST WITH ONE THEIR RESPONSE BASED ON THE RESPONSES WE CAN SAY, WE HAVE A MAJORITY OF PROPERTY OWNERS, 69% SUPPORT THE REQUEST PURSUANT TO SECTION 21 DASH ONE, ONE FOUR.
THE CODE OF VIRGINIA, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ARE REQUIRED TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE REQUEST.
THIS IS A NEW STEP THAT WAS INCORPORATED INTO THE CODE BY HB 1740 IN 2017, TO ENSURE THAT IN ADDITION TO THE REGISTERED VOTERS, THE PETITION WAS SUPPORTED BY A MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS OUR SUPPORT OF, OR IN OPPOSITION TO THE RULES REQUEST.
DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF? JUST ONE AND MAYBE YOU TOUCHED ON IT.
DO THEY CURRENTLY HAVE A, THEY DO.
AND THEY HAVE A BOARD THEN? YES.
SO IN THEORY, WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, WE COULD JUST PULL IT UP.
WE KNEW THE ADVISORY PANEL, THE POA BOARD.
CAUSE THAT'S HOW WE'VE DONE IT.
SO I'M MORE THAN LIKELY TO BE MORE LIKE YOUR OSPREY LANE OR YOUR BALL DRIVE, WHERE YOU JUST HAD AN ADVISORY BOARD.
DO THEY, DO THEY HAVE ALL OF THEIR NECESSARY PAPERWORK AS A POA, AS A POA WITH THE COUNTY WITH, I MEAN, ARE THEY A LEGITIMATE POS? WELL, THERE ARE A MORE OF A SMALL GROUP.
SO A LEGITIMATE POA MEANING TAX ID NUMBER, UH, ACCOUNTS, UH, SET UP JUST FOR THEM.
SO IN CASE SOMETHING GOES SIDEWAYS, UH, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH PROBATE, UM, GENERAL CONCERNS THAT WE SHOULD.
UH, WELL I THINK THIS ONE, WE WON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A AGREEMENT WITH ANOTHER BODY.
WE'LL JUST HAVE AN ADVISORY BOARD.
UM, BUT WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF MEMBERS HERE,
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UM, THAT COULD PROBABLY ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.SORRY, THE BACK IN THE BACK, IF THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO THAT EVENING.
YES, WE ARE A SMALL, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
UH, THERE ARE ONLY 14 OF US, 14 LOTS ON THE ROAD.
WE DO NOT HAVE A TAX ID BECAUSE WE DO NOT NEED ONE.
UH, CAUSE WE ARE SO SMALL I BELIEVE.
UM, IS THAT NOT CORRECT? OKAY.
THEN I DON'T THAT I MISINFORMED ON THAT ONE.
WE DO HAVE SEPARATE ACCOUNTS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
IS THAT, WAS THAT WHAT YOU WERE ASKING? YES.
UM, AS FAR AS I WAS AWARE, WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH EVERYTHING MR. BARRY HAD ASKED FOR, UM, WHAT ELSE ARE WE IN NEED OF? WELL, I RECEIVED A LETTER AND MR.
AND ONE WAS THE FACT THAT, UM, YOU DO NOT HAVE A TAX ID AND THAT ACCORDING TO THIS LETTER, THAT, UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL NAMES THAT ARE USED.
UM, SHANNON WOULD USE THE SEVERAL DIFFERENT NAMES FOR ASSOCIATIONS, SUCH AS SHANNON WOODS DRIVE ROAD ASSOCIATION, SHANNON WOODS, OWNER'S ROAD ASSOCIATION, SHANNON WOODS ROAD MAINTENANCE ASSOCIATION, AND THEN SHANNON WOODS PROPERTY ASSOCIATION.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THESE HAVE ONLY ONE NAME.
UM, AND THEN THAT THERE'S NOT A TAX ID NUMBER THAT IT'S UNDER SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER, AN ACCOUNT.
WE DO HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT SET UP.
UM, IT IS SET UP AS A BUSINESS ACCOUNT, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A TAX ID NUMBER.
WELL, LIKE I SAID, WE JUST GOT THIS, SO RIGHT.
I'VE NO IDEA OF THIS IS ALSO A LOT THAT IS NOT IN FAVOR OF THE DISTRICT.
THE NUMBER OF YEARS, FOUR YEARS.
SO I, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS IN HAND, I WAS, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I THINK WE NEED TO GET, YOU KNOW, GET THESE ALL CLEARED UP SO THAT THERE IS NO ISSUE WITH MISUNDERSTANDINGS.
THERE IS ONLY, THERE IS ONLY ONE NAME.
THE ONLY THING WE DO IS WE VOTE FOR NEW TREASURERS OR BOARD MEMBERS.
THERE'S NEVER BEEN A NAME CHANGE.
UM, AS FAR AS THE ACCOUNT, SOME PEOPLE MAY REFER TO IT AS THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY TYPE UP A LETTER OR AN INVOICE TO SEND TO SOMEONE, UM, I WENT BY THE NAME, I'M THE CURRENT TREASURER.
I WENT BY THE NAME THAT'S ON THE BANK ACCOUNT, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY OWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
UM, MR. DAVIS, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE NOT REVIEWED THOSE, THAT LETTER AND THE QUESTIONS.
AND IF YOU COMPLETED THE HEARING HERE, THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, AND THEN TABLE THIS ITEM, WE COULD COME BACK AND GIVE YOU A REPORT ON THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
AND I'LL BE GLAD TO GIVE THIS.
I'VE GIVEN ONE TO EMILY ALREADY.
I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR UP ANY CONFUSION.
THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFERENT THAN SHADOW FARMS, WHERE THEY LIKE MY ROLE.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE SENDING ANY MONEY BACK TO THESE FOLKS.
ONCE YOU ESTABLISH THEIR BOARD, THE COUNTIES WANT TO MAINTAIN THE MONEY.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE A BOARD.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE ADVISOR OF WHAT TO THE COUNTY.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEND ANY MONEY BACK.
THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY CONTRACT SERVICES.
SO IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN DEALING WITH A LARGE PROPERTY AND ASSOCIATION OR YOU'RE SENDING CONTRACTS, TARPS PAYMENT TO THEM.
AND I THINK THAT SEEMS TO BE WHAT YOU'RE WONDERING ABOUT.
UM, IT'S, IT'S A LOT, IT'S NOT JUST THAT WE'VE GOT A DOCUMENT.
THAT'S FOUR PAGES LONG PLUS A LOT OF OTHER STUFF.
AND I THINK THE, I THINK THOSE NEED TO BE ANSWERED OR AT LEAST NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND, UM, I'M WILLING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT, THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD.
BUT I THINK THAT WE, WE KNOW WHERE WE NEED TO GO AND THAT'S TO GET SOME, JUST SOME RUBBER RESOLUTION, JUST SOME QUESTIONS.
AND I, I WISHED I'D GOTTEN THIS SOONER, SO, BUT I JUST GOT IT.
MR. PAUL, I NOTICED THAT IT SAYS THERE'S A 50 FOOT RIGHT AWAY AND IT
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GOES THROUGH ANOTHER SO DIVISION, EVIDENTLY, COULD THAT BE AN ISSUE AT ANY POINT? IT'S NOT THE IT'S THE SAME SUBDIVISION OR A DIFFERENT SUBDIVISION.I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST A RIDE.
IT WAS A RIGHT AWAY THAT SHE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS NOTATED ON THE PLAT AND WE RIGHT AWAY.
I MEAN, IT'S A DEDICATED RIGHT AWAY JUST TO RIGHT AWAY.
MR. HAM DOES, DOES THE ADVISORY BOARD FOR SANITARY DISTRICT HAVE TO BE A REGISTERED POA OR AN HOA? NO, YOU COULD.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE REPRESENT TO SANITARY DISTRICT THAT DON'T HAVE ONE.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT REQUIRED IN THE VIRGINIA CODE.
DOESN'T HAVE A SEPARATE, UH, ADVISORY BOARD.
AND I THINK WE'RE CONSIDERING MAKING THE POA, THE ADVISORY BOARD IN THE FUTURE, WHETHER THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO LIKE YOUR OFFICE, WHERE YOU LAND IN YOUR WALK HAD DRIVE, BASICALLY YOUR POA DISAPPEARS.
SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO BACK AND ESTABLISH A NEW POA OR GET A NEW NUMBER ESTABLISHED ACCOUNT.
THEY'RE BASICALLY WANT TO STOP USING THAT ACCOUNT.
ALL THEIR FUNDING WILL COME TO THE COUNTY.
WE WILL MAINTAIN AND MANAGE ALL OF THEIR FUNDING.
SO THE QUESTIONS REALLY FOR THAT PERSON SHOULD BE CLEARED UP.
THEY WILL NO LONGER BE MANAGING THE FUNDS AT ALL.
UM, IT, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WITH LIKE FRONT ROYAL, HOW, HOW THAT WORKS.
UH, AND I DON'T FORESEE ONCE, YOU KNOW, SINCE THIS WAS HANDED LAST MINUTE TYPE THING, UM, I'M NOT SAYING THAT ANYBODY'S DOING ANYTHING WRONG OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO PROVE TO THIS PERSON AND TRY TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS BEFORE JUST AUTOMATICALLY VOTING ON THIS AND DECIDING TONIGHT.
UM, SO PLEASE DON'T TAKE IT AS SUCH, NOW THAT WE THINK YOU'RE DOING ANYTHING WRONG, WE JUST HAVE TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, SIR.
AND THEN YES, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND TABLE.
SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE OUT THERE WHO WANT TO SPEAK WORDS.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
MY NAME IS GARY
THESE 14 PROPERTIES ARE IN A PRIVATE SUBDIVISION WITH PRIVATE ROADS.
IN MY VIEW, IT'S INAPPROPRIATE FOR THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT TO TAKE OVER RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAINTAINING THEIR PRIVATE ROADS OR THE WORK OF COLLECTING ANNUAL DUES FROM PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE THE BENEFICIARIES OF ROADWAYS IN THEIR PRIVATE COMMUNITY.
THERE IS NO DUTY OF ALL A WARREN COUNTY CITIZENS TO ACCEPT THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANYTHING IN THEIR PRIVATE AREA.
THERE IS A PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION WHOSE DUTY IT IS TO MANAGE ALL ASPECTS OF THE COMMON AREAS.
ROSE INCLUDED THAT EXISTS BASICALLY FOR THE EXCLUSIVE BENEFIT OF THEIR PRIVATE COMMUNITY AND TO COLLECT DUES THAT ARE NECESSARY TO FUND MANAGEMENT OF ANY COMMON FACILITIES.
WHY SHOULD COUNTY CITIZENS ASSUME THE COST OF MANAGING AND FUNDING? THE IMPROVEMENTS IN A PRIVATE SUBDIVISION? IT IS UNDERSTANDABLE THAT THE 13 EFFECTIVE SUBDIVISION MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO BE RELIEVED OF THE ROAD MAINTENANCE AND DUES COLLECTIONS RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THEIR PRIVATE AREA, BUT THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE WILLING TO ACCEPT THE TRANSFER AT THE EXPENSE TO ALL OTHER CITIZENS, NOT ENJOYING USE OF THE ROADWAYS AND THEIR PRIVATE SUBDIVISION.
I URGE YOU TO DENY THE REQUEST FOR ESTABLISHING THIS SANITARY DISTRICT.
MR. SHIRAKI HAS ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP? NO.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK? I DON'T CALL.
MY NAME IS BRIAN BLODGETT, SEVEN ZERO FOUR SHANNON WOODS DRIVE.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID THE COUNTY DOESN'T PAY FOR THIS.
WE PAY IN ADDITION TO OUR DUES FOR THIS MAINTENANCE AND FOR THE HELP THAT WE GET FOR WHAT THE COUNTY DOES.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR ALSO TO THE LETTER THAT THE OTHER ENTITY SET FOR THE ONE, NOT THE ONE HOMEOWNER.
THEY HAD EVERY CHANCE TO COME HERE TONIGHT AND SPEAK, AND THEY'RE NOT HERE.
WE'RE THE MAJORITY OF US ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE A LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
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COULD YOU GIVE, UH, THIS GENTLEMEN A COPY OF A LETTER TO I RECEIVED, I DID NOT RECEIVE IT AS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT NOW, AND THAT WAY HE MAY BE ABLE TO YEAH.HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THAT BECAUSE I'VE GIVEN THEM ONLY ONE.
IF YOU'D BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU WITH ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON US.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT SAYING ANYTHING IS WRONG OR ANYTHING AT ALL.
JUST WANT TO GET SOME CLARITY TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS MS. CALLERS, DO YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE COPY? BECAUSE I HAVE MR. BLODGETTS HIS EMAIL ADDRESS AND I WILL SCAN THIS AND EMAIL IT TO HIM FIRST THING TOMORROW MORNING.
IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
YES, MA'AM DID NOT SEE YOU RAISE YOUR HAND.
UM, BRINGING A PAL A FIVE, SIX, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT PROVIDED THE DOCUMENTS DOES NOT HAVE A HOME IN THE, IT IS A VACANT LAND.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT INTO YOUR DECISION.
THERE WAS NO ONE ELSE AT BLOCK CREEK CLOSE TO THE PUBLIC.
THE PUBLIC HEARING, I GUESS THIS OF MR. HAM, WOULD IT, WOULD IT MAKE ANY SENSE TO GO AHEAD AND WHAT'S THE WORD RECESS, THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THEN WE COULD HAVE IT BACK ON THE FIRST MEETING IN NOVEMBER, IF THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS TO BE MADE.
I THINK THAT'S LEGAL BECAUSE IF WE CLOSE IT, TECHNICALLY PEOPLE AREN'T SUPPOSED TO HAVE A CHANCE TO SAY ANYTHING.
I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE RE ADVERTISED.
I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT.
I'M NOT POSITIVE ABOUT THE RE ADVERTISEMENT REQUIREMENT, BUT I THINK YOU'RE, I'M PRETTY SURE YOU'RE CORRECT ON THAT.
THAT YOU COULD DO THAT WITHOUT RE ADVERTISING IF YOU WANT TO, BUT YOU COULD ALSO JUST CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN ACT A LATER DATE.
WELL, I'M JUST THINKING THAT IF YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK UNLESS THE PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS AT THE NEXT ONE.
AND THERE AGAIN, IF THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL PEOPLE WANT TO COME FORWARD AT THAT TIME, IT'S GOING TO BE A MORNING MEETING.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE OTHER OPTION WE CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND JUST GO AHEAD AND TABLE THIS TO MAKE A DECISION.
THEN, UH, YOU, YOU CAN DO THAT.
UM, MY BRAIN'S CLICKING INTO HERE.
AND UM, IF YOU WANT TO THAT AS AN OPTION, WOULD THAT BE AGREEABLE MR. CHAIRMAN? UM, YES IT WOULD.
SO I MOVED THAT WE RECESSED THE PUBLIC HEARING TILL WHAT IS IT? NOVEMBER 4TH.
AND THEN THAT'LL GIVE STAFF OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, RESEARCH THE CONCERN FROM THE LETTER.
IS THERE A SECOND VOICE THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED? UM, I WAS ALSO INTERRUPTED BECAUSE MY, MY QUESTION, MY CONCERN WAS INTERRUPTED AND MY STATEMENT WAS INTERRUPTED.
SAY AGAIN, SIR, IT'S ON THE RECORD CALLED THE QUESTION.
IF WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION.
IS THERE A SECOND, MR. CARTER.
[J3. Conditional Use Permit 2020-08-02, Luis and Tamara Feliciano for a Short-Term Tourist Rental – Taryn Logan]
NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2020 ZERO EIGHT ZERO TWO LOTS AND TAMAR FOR LUCIANO FOR SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL, TARA, THE APPLICANTS ARE REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL.THEY WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THEIR HOME FOR TOURISTS TO ENJOY THE AREA.
THEY INTEND TO HIRE A LOCAL MANAGEMENT COMPANY TO MANAGE ALL ASPECTS OF THE OPERATIONS FOR THEIR SHORT TERM RENTAL.
THE PROPERTY IS FIVE ACRES IN SIZE, AND IT HAS A DUCK AND GOOSE POND ON THE PROPERTY AND BORDERS, THE SHENANDOAH RIVER.
THE APPLICANT'S PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY EARLIER THIS YEAR AND THEY OWN THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE HOME.
THE LOCATION IS 71 SHEPHERDS ROAD OFF OF BUCK'S MILL ROAD AND ITS OWN AGRICULTURAL.
I GO DOWN THROUGH OUR WHOLE ZONING ORDINANCE AND, UM, TOUCH ON ALL THE SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS.
THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, UM, DWELLING DOES MEET THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS TO ALL ADJACENT DWELLINGS AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS WITH
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THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPILE WITH ALL WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS, AND THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS SHALL NOT EXCEED EIGHT.
AS DETERMINED, ACCORDING TO THE HEALTH PERMIT FOR A FOUR BEDROOM DWELLING, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE WELL WATER TESTED ANNUALLY FOR ECO-LINE COLIFORM BACTERIA, AND A COPY OF THE RESULTS SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING AND HEALTH DEPARTMENTS.
BY THE END OF EACH CALENDAR YEAR, THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED AND ALL ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WERE NOTIFIED.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. LOGAN? JUST TO SAY THAT, I GUESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY HAD A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEY DID, THERE WERE NO SPEAKERS.
AND MS. MS. LOGAN, THERE'S ALSO NO POA OR NO HOA IN PLACE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
MRS. GERACI HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP? NO.
MR. CHAIRMAN, AS THERE HAS BEEN, NO ONE SIGNED UP THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD HEARING? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST OF LUIS AND TAMRA FELICIANO FOR SHORT TERM TOURIST RENTAL WITH THE CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? EMILY? COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. FOX.
MR. CHAIRMAN, MISS OATS, MR. CARTER.
[J4. Modification Request for Conditional Use Permit 2016-10-03, Gregory and Mary S. Huson to Add Conditions Related to Indoor Classes/Seminars and Seasonal Agricultural Activities – Joe Petty]
FOUR IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2016, TEN THREE FOR GREGORY AND MARY HUSSON HAVE TO ADD CONDITIONS RELATED TO INDOOR CLASSES SLASH SEMINARS AND SEASONAL AGRICULTURAL ACTIVITIES.THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, GREGORY AND MARY HOUSTON WERE ISSUED THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2016 DASH 10 DASH OH THREE IN JANUARY OF 2017.
IT IS AN EXISTING CUP FOR A RURAL EVENTS FACILITY.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 40 22 ROCKLIN ROAD IN THE SHENANDOAH DISTRICT AND IS CURRENTLY ZONED RURAL RESIDENTIAL.
IT'S IDENTIFIED ON TEXTMAP 14 AS PARCEL 26.
AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BE MODIFIED TO ADD SEASONAL AGRICULTURAL PROGRAMS AND INDOOR CLASSES AND SEMINARS.
THEY WANT TO DO CLASSES SUCH AS FLOWER RANGING REEF MAKING AND PICK YOUR OWN, UM, HARVESTING OF PUMPKINS AND FLOWERS AND SUCH AGAIN, I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE CONDITIONS AS THEY ARE CURRENTLY EXISTING FOR THE WORLD EVENTS FACILITY.
WE HAVE ADDED TWO AS YOU'LL SEE TO THE END OUTDOOR SEASONAL ACT AND AGRICULTURAL PROGRAMS, WHICH INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO FLOWER PICKING FRUIT AND VEGETABLE PICKING OR PUMPKIN PATCH SHALL BE PERMITTED IN ONE BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY MAY BE USE TO OFFER THE SALE OF ITEMS PRODUCED ON THE PROPERTY AND INDOOR CLASSES AND SEMINARS SHALL BE LIMITED TO 15 PEOPLE.
AS OF TODAY, WE DID RECEIVE COMMENTS BACK FROM THE WARREN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THE WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT.
UM, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOT THOSE TODAY AND, UM, THEY HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU THIS AFTERNOON.
UM, THEY DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS REGARDING THIS ADDITIONAL USE.
UM, AND SO AT THIS TIME, OUR OFFICE IS RECOMMENDING, UM, BECAUSE WITH A MODIFICATION, SORRY, THIS DOES NOT GO THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IT COMES DIRECTLY TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO GIVEN THE RECENT COMMENTS FROM BOTH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THE WARREN COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UM, FORWARD THIS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AS WE OURSELVES, UM, HAVE TO GO THROUGH THESE COMMENTS AND WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN MAKE THESE HAPPEN.
BUT IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.
I KNOW THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM PERTAIN TO THIS USE, UM, JUST LET US KNOW WHAT YOU I'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD.
YES, GREG HOUSTON, 62 ASHBY LANE, MY WIFE AND I ARE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, WE'VE OPERATED IT FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS, UM, THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND, UH, WE'RE SEEKING WELL, MY WIFE WANTS TO GROW FLOWERS AND
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HAVE CLASSES AND I DIDN'T THINK THAT'D BE CONTROVERSIAL, BUT ANYWAY, I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR LETTING ME KNOW AT 5:00 PM TONIGHT THAT THEY'RE RECOMMENDING POSTPONING THIS, UM, FOR FURTHER REVIEW.UM, I WILL TELL YOU THAT I LOOKED THROUGH SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS.
THEY SENT ONE FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WHICH STATES THE CAPACITY IS SEWAGE SYSTEM IS SIX 5,650 GALLONS PER DAY.
AND, UH, SO WE WERE INTENDING TO HAVE CLASSES THAT THE CALCULATION THAT THEY MADE WAS AN EIGHT HOUR CLASS FOR 15 PEOPLE, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL HUNDRED AND 50 GALLON CAPACITY.
THEY RECOMMENDED, UM, HIRING AN EXPERT TO COME OUT AND DO SOIL SAMPLES AND EXPAND THE SYSTEM.
WELL, IF THE HOUSE IS NOT RENTED UNDER THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE CLASSES.
SO THERE'S NOT A NEED TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 150 GALLONS PER DAY.
IF THERE'S NO ONE IN THE HOUSE, THE HOUSE IS RATED FOR 450 GALLONS PER DAY.
SO IN THAT SENSE, I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT THEY DIDN'T GO A LITTLE DEEPER AS FAR AS THE BUILDING PERMIT.
UM, IT WAS THE FLIMSIEST THING THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN.
THEY JUST SAID, WELL, IT'S ADDITIONAL USE, IT'S A CON IT'S A DIFFERENT USE.
SO YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE INSPECTIONS FOR ALL THE SYSTEMS. WELL, ALL THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE TO THE HOUSE HAS BEEN INSPECTED BY THE INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT.
AND I FEEL LIKE MAYBE WE WERE INTERFERING WITH HIS LUNCH OR SOMETHING WHEN HE HAD TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS, BECAUSE IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A FORM LETTER TO ME.
SO ALL IN ALL, I PREFER THAT THE, THAT THE BOARD VOTE ON IT, TELL YOU THE TRUTH, BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THESE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS, I MEAN, FOR, FOR INSTANCE, THE CLASSES THAT SHE'S GOING TO HAVE ON FLOWER ARRANGING ARE TWO HOURS LONG.
THEY'RE NOT EIGHT HOURS AND NOT GOING TO BE 15 PEOPLE THERE FOR EIGHT HOURS AT AN ADDITIONAL HUNDRED AND 50 GALLONS PER DAY.
I MEAN, OUR TOILETS ARE ONE GALLON FLUSH.
I MEAN, IT'S RIDICULOUS NOW THEY'RE BUREAUCRATS.
THEY AREN'T ACCOUNTABLE TO ME, BUT THEY'RE ACCOUNTABLE TO YOU.
AND IN THEORY, YOU'RE ACCOUNTABLE TO ME AS A VOTER.
SO, I MEAN, I GUESS I'M JUST A LITTLE UPSET BECAUSE WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO PLAY BY THE RULES WITH EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THIS PROPERTY.
WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO MAINTAIN IT AS A FARM AND A 75 ACRES.
AND, UM, SO, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING HERE AND I DON'T APPRECIATE THE OBSTRUCTION THAT I FEEL THAT I'VE HAD ON THIS.
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN, MR. MAY, MAY I ASK A QUESTION? YES.
SO I'M READING THIS, UM, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH DOCUMENT, AND THIS IS WHAT IT SAYS.
IT SAYS THAT IF THE INDOOR CLASSROOM SEMINARS ARE LIMITED TO 15 PEOPLE, THE SYSTEM MUST BE DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE 150 GALLONS OF ADDITIONAL SEWAGE FLOW PER EIGHT HOUR INSTRUCTIONAL PERIOD THAT'S PER AT THE EIGHT HOURS.
SO IF IT'S TWO HOURS OR FOUR HOURS, THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THAT, THAT, UM, THAT CALCULUS, CORRECT.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SENDING THIS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR SO THAT THEY CAN EVALUATE THIS ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS SO THEY APPLIED FOR THE MODIFICATION.
WE HAD SENT THEM TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND BUILDING INSPECTIONS.
UM, IT TOOK A LITTLE TIME AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE DATE THAT WE GOT IT OCTOBER 19TH, YOU KNOW, I APOLOGIZE THAT I ONLY GOT IT TO THEM TODAY, BUT I ALSO DIDN'T GET BUILDING INSPECTIONS UNTIL TODAY.
SO I CAN'T SEND THEM COMMENTS IF I DON'T HAVE THEM.
AND I CAN'T SPEAK, YOU KNOW, I SENT MR. DAVIS AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THE, UM, STATEMENT OF JUSTIFICATION THAT THEY PROVIDED TO US, UM, AS WELL.
AND HE BASED HIS CALCULATIONS OFF OF THE INFORMATION THAT HE WAS GIVEN.
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UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD ALLOW US TO DO IS IT WOULD ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO WORK WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO CLARIFY SOME OF THESE ISSUES AND WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT, TO MAKE SURE ALL THE DETAILS ARE MET, BECAUSE MAYBE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S READING INTO IT TOO MUCH, MAYBE BUILDING A SPECIALIST, BUT THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE TIME THAT THEY CAN WORK WITH THESE OTHER AGENCIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN HAVE COMPLIANCE WHO IS GOING TO BE THEIR ADVOCATE, THEIR ADVOCATE FOR APPROVAL OR THE XONE.I MEAN, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A VIABLE USE OF IT, BUT AGAIN, WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, WE WILL WORK WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THE APPLICANTS TO MAKE EVERYTHING HAPPEN.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS THEIR REGULATIONS BUILDING HAS THEIR REGULATIONS TO MAKE SURE THE HEALTH, WELFARE, AND SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THESE ACTIVITIES ARE DOING THEM IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.
AND SO WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT THOSE PRIORITIES ARE MET.
UM, I THINK ONE OF THE COMMENTS FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM BUILDING INSPECTIONS, I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK FOR THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, BUT WHEN YOU START ADDING 15 PEOPLE INTO A RESIDENTIAL HOME AND HOLDING CLASSES, THERE IS A LIFE SAFETY COMPONENT TO THAT THAT THEY MUST TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.
UM, WE ALL OPERATE, I WILL SAY MOST PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY OPERATE ON A PRIVATE WELL AND SEWER, AND IT'S CONCERNING TO THE NEIGHBORS AND EVERYBODY ELSE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S SYSTEMS ARE WORKING PROPERLY.
SO WE WORK WITH ANY APPLICANT TO IF, TO WORK ON THEIR RIGHTS OF THEIR PROPERTY.
AND WE WANT THEM TO FULFILL SPECIALLY WITH THESE FARMS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE SUPPLEMENTAL INCOME TO KEEP THESE FARMS ALIVE.
BUT WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING, ALL THE REGULATIONS ARE MET FOR ALL AGENTS.
AGAIN, IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, YOU SAID ART, I SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU BELIEVED THAT EVERYTHING WAS OKAY.
WE ARE ACCEPTING OF THE YOUTH.
WE ARE ACCEPTING OF THE USE OF AG.
JUST PICK YOUR OWN ACTIVITIES.
UH, THE CLASSES, THE ZONING IS GOOD WITH THAT USE, BUT AGAIN, AS WITH ANY TYPE OF USE, WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE MEETING ALL THE REGULATIONS FOR OTHER AGENCIES.
AGAIN, I CAN'T SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT OR BUILDING INSPECTIONS.
AND THAT'S WHY WE REACHED OUT TO THEM FOR COMMENTS.
MR. PAUL, THIS DID NOT GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT ANY TIME, DID IT? AND IF NOT, WHY SO A CUP.
SO THEY HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CURRENTLY FOR A RURAL EVENT CENTER, A MODIFICATION TO A CUP ONLY REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS LEVEL.
IF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FEELS THAT IT NEEDS TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY CAN MOVE IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, BUT THE CODE CLEARLY STATES THAT IT GOES TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR A MODIFICATION BECAUSE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVES THE CONDITIONAL USE, DOES IT HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION? NO, SIR, YOU CAN VOTE ON IT THIS EVENING.
YOU CAN VOTE ON IT THIS EVENING.
YOU CAN ALSO VOTE TO SEND IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEM TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO YOU.
NOT ALSO TABLE IT UNTIL WE GET THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN, THAT WOULD BE THE WAY I WOULD PREFER TO GO.
CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID LIKE THIS ANYMORE.
AND AGAIN, IT MAY BE A MISINFORMATION, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF TWO WEEKS, NOVEMBER
NOW WE'LL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT AND THESE AGENCIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE COMMUNICATING THAT ALL THE DETAILS THAT THEY NEED ARE MET.
SO I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION IF WE PASSED THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BECAUSE IT'S CONDITIONAL, CONDITIONAL, THEY MEET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS.
SEE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS WHOLE CONDITIONAL THING BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GIVING SOMEBODY A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT IS BASED ON THEM MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS AS PUT FORTH IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE SUPPLIED HERE.
SO WHY CAN'T WE NOT JUST VOTE ON IT AND LET THEM HASH IT OUT WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT? IS THAT NOT THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION? I THINK YOU MAY WANT TO, YOU MAY WANT TO REVISE THESE CONDITIONS TO MEET WHEN WE HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT THEY ARE THINKING AND WHAT THE APPLICANTS ARE DOING THAT CORRECTS THIS SO THAT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING THE CONDITIONS TWO WEEKS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THEN FIND OUT IT'S NOT NEEDED AT ALL AND THEN APPROVE IT.
LIKE IT IS, LIKE I SAID, I WOULD, WELL, FIRST OFF, I GUESS YOU HAVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION BEFORE? YES, SIR.
YOU HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE FOR
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A RURAL EVENTS FACILITY.WHAT RURAL EVENTS DO YOU DO? CURRENTLY? WE HOST WEDDINGS AND UH, OTHER PRIVATE EVENTS.
UM, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THE HOUSE PER SE IS VACANT AS MUCH AS IT'S OCCUPIED WHEN IT'S VACANT.
THAT WOULD BE WHEN WE HAVE THE CLASSES, IF IT'S VACANT, WE HAVE 450 GALLONS PER DAY CAPACITY.
SO IT STANDS TO REASON THAT THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT SHOULD EVEN APPLY.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT AT ALL.
CAN I ASK IF YOU HAVE WEDDING EVENTS THERE? YES.
WHAT BATHROOM FACILITIES ARE THEY USING? WE HAVE PORT-A-POTTIES AND ACTUALLY FOR THE FLOWER GARDEN, WE HAVE PORTA-POTTIES FOR THE OUTDOOR USE THERE AS WELL.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INSIDE.
I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OCCASIONAL CLASSES OF ONE TO TWO HOURS SHOWING PEOPLE HOW TO ARRANGE FLOWERS.
I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WROTE, 12 HOURS, 15 PEOPLE, I MEAN REALLY.
I JUST, I JUST NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE CLEAR BECAUSE IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME IF YOU COULD HAVE EVENTS THERE.
WHY YOU HADN'T ALREADY MET A LOT OF THESE, SO THANK YOU.
AND ALSO MR. CHAIRMAN, THE PROPERTY, IF IT WAS ZONED AGRICULTURAL, THIS WOULDN'T EVEN BE IN A QUESTION.
I MEAN, THESE ARE FARM ACTIVITIES.
IT'S THE PROPERTY OWNER BEFORE THEM REZONED IT TO RURAL RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE I CLUSTER SUBDIVISION WAS PLANNED AND THEN THEY GOT IT AND KEPT THE FARM.
AND I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A GORGEOUS PROPERTY.
I MEAN, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY, BUT IT'S NOT ZONED AGRICULTURAL.
SO IT DOESN'T FALL UNDER AGRITOURISM AS, AS A TYPICAL FARM WOULD.
SO, UM, THE CONDITIONS YOU SEE ON THERE, I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, THE BOARD PUT ON THERE, LEAVE ADDITIONAL ONES ARE COMING FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
AND THERE AGAIN, I WOULD THINK IT WOULDN'T BE ANY PROBLEM JUST TO CLARIFY THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM IN RESULTS.
SO AGAIN, I WOULD JUST SUGGEST WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TABLE UNTIL THE FOURTH.
UM, PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP AT ALL? UH, YES.
MY NAME IS TODD LEWIS, THREE FIVE EIGHT ASHBY LANE, UM, NEIGHBORS TO THE HOUSTON'S.
IN FACT, THEIR FARM BUTTS UP AGAINST THE BACK INTO MY PROPERTY.
I'VE BEEN ON THEIR PROPERTY, SEEN THE FARM.
UH, IF YOU COULD HAVE SEEN IT WHEN THEY PURCHASED IT, UH, COMPARED TO ALL THE WORK AND DEDICATION THEY'VE DONE TO IMPROVE THE PROPERTY, THE HOUSE, THE HISTORIC, UH, HOUSE ITSELF IS NOTHING SHORT OF INCREDIBLE.
UH, EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE IS VERY PROFESSIONAL.
UM, I THINK IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM, THEY WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT.
I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH HAVING A FEW PEOPLE COME FOR A TWO HOUR FLOWER ARRANGING CLASS.
AND IF THEY HAVE TO USE THE BATHROOM, THERE WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE.
THIS WAS GOING TO BE A HOLDUP, UH, PRIOR TO COMING HERE THIS EVENING.
BUT AS, AS A ONSITE WITNESS, I GUARANTEE YOU THAT IT WAS NOT BEING AN ISSUE.
IT'S NOTHING SHORT OF SPECTACULAR PROFESSIONAL CLASS ACT THESE TWO.
AND, UM, I URGE YOU TO VOTE ON IT TONIGHT.
I THINK IT WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE.
THANK YOU, MRS. GERACI HAS ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP? UH, MR. HOUSTON DID SIGN UP FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO SPEAK AGAIN THEN NO.
MR. CHAIRMAN, NO ONE ELSE HAS SIGNED UP.
IF THERE NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FINAL CALL PUBLIC HEARINGS NOW COLD CLOSED.
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? I MEAN, WE POSTPONE THIS TO NOVEMBER 4TH.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND DIGITAL DISCUSSION.
I JUST THINK IT'S, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THERE'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE, BUT I THINK THIS IS JUST GIVES US TIME AND I WOULD CERTAINLY SUGGEST TO STAFF THAT THE EXPEDITE THIS.
SO WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE READY TO HOPEFULLY APPROVE THIS AT THE NEXT MEETING.
AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE WELL INCEPTED TOMORROW.
SO MR. DAVIS FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WILL BE THERE.
SO MS. MR. PETTY MAY HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK TO HIM AS WELL.
I'LL GET THIS THING RECTIFIED WHEN YOU MOVE FORWARD AND I'LL OBVIOUSLY YOU NEED TO GET A TOUCH BASE WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
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ANY OTHERS ROLL CALL PLEASE? MRS. SHIRAKI.MR. CARTER, MR. CHAIRMAN, MS. COLORS, MR. FOX
[J5. Modification Request for Conditional Use Permit 2017-07-02, Warren County Fair Association/Frank Brugh to Add One (1) Parcel and Modify One (1) Existing Condition – Joe Petty]
ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON OUR AGENDA IS MODIFICATION REQUESTS FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2017 SEVEN DASH ZERO TWO WARREN COUNTY.I'M SORRY IF I MESSED THAT NAME UP.
AND ADD ONE PARCEL AND MODIFY ONE EXISTING CONDITION.
THE, UM, THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WAS ISSUED IN 2017 AS WELL FOR A CONTRACTOR STORAGE YARD.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT TWO 74 FAIRGROUND ROAD AND IT IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL.
THE FAIR ASSOCIATION IS CURRENTLY LEASING THE PROPERTY FROM THE OWNER FRANK BREW, AND THEY ARE PROPOSING TO SUBLEASE THE PROPERTY FOR THE USE OF THE STORAGE OF NEW MOTOR VEHICLES.
THIS REQUEST TO ADD AN ADJOINING PROPERTY, 1111 IS ALSO OWNED BY MR BREW AND HIS FOUR POINT 16 ACRE 4.16 ACRES, AND THE APPLICANT HAS EXISTED OR ASKING HIM TO MODIFY THESE EXISTING CONDITIONS ON THE PERMIT REGARDING THE SCREENING OF THE PROPERTY.
THE ZONING ORDINANCE DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY DEFINE WHAT A CONTRACTOR STORAGE YARD IS, BUT WE'VE DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED USE OF PARKING VEHICLES FOR COMMERCIAL BUSINESS WOULD MEET THE INTENT OF THE EXISTING CUP.
HOWEVER, THESE VEHICLES TO BE PARKED ON THE PROPERTY SHALL BE OPERABLE AND UNDER THE SAME OWNERSHIP OF A SINGLE BUSINESS ENTITY, IT IS NOT TO BE USED FOR THE STORAGE OR LEASE OF AN INDIVIDUAL'S PERSONAL PROPERTY, SUCH AS A SELF STORAGE LOT THAT WOULD FALL UNDER A SEPARATE CUP, THE APPLICANTS.
AND THAT WAS WHERE THE START OF THE APPLICANTS DID LOOK TO APPLY FOR A DIFFERENT CUP.
BUT AFTER LOOKING INTO IT, WE REALIZED THAT THE EXISTING CONTRACTOR STORAGE ART CUP WOULD FIT UNDER WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING TO DO.
WE JUST HAD TO ADD THIS ADDITIONAL PARCEL, UM, AND YOU WILL SEE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT ARE PART OF THAT CUP.
AGAIN, WE WOULD JUST BE ADDING LOT 11 AND THEN WE HAVE AMENDED OR MODIFIED CONDITION THREE TO REFLECT MOST OF OUR CURRENT CODE.
UM, WE ELIMINATED THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT FOR A PRIVACY FENCE AND INSTEAD OF SAYING, AND IT WOULD BE, OR LANDSCAPING WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST THAT IT'S BEEN MORE, UH, AESTHETICALLY PLEASING TO DO A LANDSCAPING BUFFER, WHICH IS APPROVED THROUGH OUR ORDINANCE.
UM, RATHER THAN A PRIVACY FENCE FOR THE NEIGHBORS AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
UM, IF, IF THE APPLICANT OR THE RENTER OF THE VEHICLES DID DECIDE TO PUT A FENCE UP, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED PER THE ZONING TO FOLLOW THAT SCREENING PER SECURITY PURPOSES.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE FAIRGROUND, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
AGAIN, THIS IS A MODIFICATION TO AN EXISTING CUP.
IT HAS NOT BEEN AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL.
IT CAME STRAIGHT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THERE WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEED.
DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FOR THE STAFF? JUST AT ONE POINT AND MR. PETTY MADE WHO'S GOING TO BE PARKING OUR RVS.
THEY'RE NOT INDIVIDUALS, SO IT WOULD NOT BE RVS.
UM, FROM MY ATTAIN, IT IS A LOCAL VEHICLE DEALERSHIP WHO NEEDS EXTRA STORAGE, UM, AND THEY WOULD BE BRAND NEW VEHICLES JUST FOR SURPLUS REASONS.
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
MRS. GERACI HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP? NO.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE IS NO ONE, UH, THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FINAL CALL PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? I MOVED IT TO BOARD OF SUPERVISOR FOOD, THE MODIFICATION TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER TWO ZERO ONE SEVEN DASH ZERO SEVEN DASH ZERO TO RANK BREW CONTRACTORS STORAGE YARD TO ADD TAX MAT NUMBER FIVE, LOT 11, AND TO MODIFY THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ON THE PERMIT.
SECONDLY, FOR THE DISCUSSION, JUST ONE THING, AS FAR AS THE SCREENING, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE PUT UP LIKE LEYLAND, LELAND, CYPRESS, WHICH IS FAST GROWING, BUT WE DON'T GET DOWN TO NET THOSE HIGH
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WEEDS, UH, AS MUCH, UM, AS FAR AS TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO.BUT I GUESS WE DO HAVE SOME TYPE OF GUIDANCE OR RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, WE LIKE TO THINK THAT MR WHEN LEAN AND OUR PLANNING STAFF IS OUR MASTER GARDENER, UM, AND HE HAS A NICE CATALOG OF NATIVE SPECIES THAT WE ALSO WORK WITH SOME OF V DOTS REQUIREMENTS, BUT KEEP THEM NATIVE.
BUT YES, THE LELAND'S ARE VERY POPULAR CAUSE THEY GROW FAST AND THEY PROVIDE, UM, ALL YEAR SCREENING.
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, MR. SHIRAKI COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. FOX.
MR. CHAIRMAN MS. HI, MR. CARTER,
[J6. Z2020-08-01, Frank Barnett, Jr., for an Ordinance to Amend and Re-Ordain Section 180-28 (Industrial Zoning District) to add “Commercial Repair Garage” to the List of Uses Permitted By-Right in the Industrial Zoning District – Joe Petty]
NEXT ITEM IS Z 2020 ZERO EIGHT DASH ZERO ONE.FOR AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND OR REAR DANE SECTION ONE H R ONE 80 DASH 28 INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO ADD COMMERCIAL REPAIR GARAGE TO THE LIST OF THESE, UM, PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE DISTRICT.
MR. PETTY, THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS WAS, UH, APPLIED FOR TEXT AMENDMENT FROM MR. BARNETT TO ADD COMMERCIAL GARAGE REPAIR INTO THE BUYER, RIGHT.
UM, USES FOR AN INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
WE DO RECEIVE COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS WHO WANT TO GROW THEIR EXISTING COMMERCIAL GARAGE PAIR THAT MAY BE IN THEIR HOME OR, OR A SMALL SCALE OPERATION.
AND THAT WOULD LIKE TO RELOCATE IT IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT ON THE ZONING INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT DOES PROVIDE CODE FOR ADEQUATE SCREENING, SCREENING AND OPERATIONS THAT DO NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE NEARBY PROPERTIES.
THE EXISTING SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS ARE INCLUDED FOR COMMERCIAL GARAGE REPAIR, AND WE FEEL THAT THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE ADDITION TO THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, AGAIN, WE ALREADY HAVE EXISTING SUPPLEMENTAL REGS FOR COMMERCIAL GARAGE THAT WE WOULD APPLY, BUT AGAIN, FOR AN INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, WE FEEL THIS IS APPROPRIATE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
THE APPLICANT FOR THIS TEXT AMENDMENT IS ALSO HERE AND WHY THEY WOULDN'T LIKE TO SEE WHERE THE ADEQUATE LIGHT TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK.
DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FOR THE STAFF? SO THIS IS COUNTY WIDE FOR INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT, CORRECT.
UM, MR. UM, UM, BARNETT CURRENTLY HAS FACILITY, IS THAT WORD THAT WOULD ENCOMPASS THAT NOW TO CORRECT? THAT DOES OWN IT INDUSTRIAL HIS OWN PROPERTY, WHICH DOES HAVE A CUP FOR A HYDRAULIC REPAIR BUSINESS.
UM, BUT THIS WOULD ALLOW HIM ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT PROPERTY AGAIN, BUT IT IS, THIS IS A COUNTY WIDE TEXT AMENDMENT, RIGHT? OKAY.
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
MR. SHIRAKI HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP? YES.
MR. CHAIRMAN, BILL BARNETT, MR. CHAIRMAN BOARD SUPERVISORS, APPRECIATE YOU TAKING UP THIS ISSUE.
UH, WARREN COUNTY IS PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY COUNTY IN THE, THIS PART OF VIRGINIA AND THAT DOES NOT ALLOW OH, MOTIVE REPAIR WORK TO BE DONE IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, MANY OF THESE, UH, MOST JURORS DISHING JURISDICTIONS IN VIRGINIA REQUIRE IT TO BE DONE IN THE INDUSTRIALS UP.
YOU'RE PAINTING, YOU'RE SHAPING METAL, YOU'RE SANDING, YOU'RE SANDBLASTING, YOU'RE WELDING, YOU'RE SHAPING, YOU'RE WORKING ON AN INDUSTRIAL, UH, WORKING ON, UH, MACHINERY AND THAT'S NORMALLY AN INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY.
UH, AND CURRENTLY ALL OF THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE DONE EITHER IN, IN WARREN COUNTY, EITHER IN A COMMERCIAL ZONE OR BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN AGRICULTURAL OR RESIDENTIAL SENSE.
AND SO, UH, THIS IS NOT A MATTER.
THIS IS REALLY A MATTER OF GETTING THIS WHERE WE WOULD REALLY PREFER IT TO BE IS IN AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE, UH, AND TO ALLOW THAT KIND OF WORK, TO TAKE PLACE WHERE IT BELONGS.
AND, UH, NOT THAT WE SHOULD NOT PERMIT IT ELSEWHERE, BUT CERTAINLY, UH, UH, IT SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE WHERE THOSE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES ARE A NORMAL ACTIVITY AND THE ZONE IS DESIGNED FOR THAT.
IS THERE A QUESTION? YES, SIR.
THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT MIGHT BE SUGGESTED FOR, TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING, NOT TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT TO MAKE IT ABOUT RIGHT, IS
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TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE COMPANY IN THE FUTURE, PAYING A COMMISSION.SO THIS WOULD, THIS IS FOR IT TO BE A BI-RITE USE IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT, AS HE MENTIONED, IT IS ON THE USE THAT IS ALLOWED IN COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
AND IT'S BY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT.
BUT THIS IS, THIS TONIGHT'S TEXT.
AMENDMENT IS FOR IT TO BE BI-RITE AND INDUSTRIAL.
IT DOES NOT CURRENTLY EXIST IN ANY FORM IN THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT NOW.
SO WE WOULD BE ADDING THIS USE OR YOU'VE TAKEN IT TO THE INDUSTRIAL.
SO WILL THIS, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT MR. PETTY, FOR CLARIFICATION THAT IN THE FUTURE, SHOULD SOMEBODY COME TO US? THEY WON'T NEED TO COME TO US BECAUSE THIS WILL ALREADY, ONCE IT'S THERE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME TO US AS A BI-RITE APPLICATION.
SOMETIMES WE NEED TO MAKE SURE AS APPROPRIATE SCREENING FOR INDUSTRIAL.
I KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY DOWN THAT MR. BARNETT OWENS NOW DOES HAVE SCREENING, BUT YEAH, THERE ARE SOME BUY RIGHT REQUIREMENTS, BUT YES, THEY WOULD NOT NEED TO GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
THEY WOULD JUST NEED TO COME TO US TO CONFIRM TO YOU.
THANK YOU, MR. SHAHRAKI HAS ANYONE OUTSIDE? OH YES.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THE APPLICANT DID SIGN UP.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
UM, THERE'S ALSO A JULIE CHICORY THAT SIGNED UP, BUT I BELIEVE SHE HAS HIS PHONE LEFT.
IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FINAL CALL PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD FINDING THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE IN GENERAL WELFARE AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICES.
I KNEW THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT COMMENTS OR CONCERNS.
COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. CARTER, MR. CHAIRMAN, MS. COLORS.
HI, MR. FOX, GOING BACK TO OUR ORIGINAL AGENDA, UM, REPORT, UM, MRS. LOGAN FOR THE COVID-19, UH, EXPENDITURES FOR WARREN COUNTY.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M AT YOUR DESK.
THIS IS THROUGH, UM, TODAY ACTUALLY FROM EVERYONE EXPENDITURES THAT I'VE RECEIVED, UM, FOR THE COVID, UM, THEIR COVID HAS FINISHERS, AND THIS IS AT THE 75% FEDERAL COST SHARE THE CATEGORY B EXPENSES, SAME THING.
SO WE ARE CURRENTLY AT $458,479 AND 26 CENTS.
THAT WAS A LARGE INCREASE ACTUALLY FROM LAST MONTH.
UM, MOSTLY, UM, DUE TO, UM, SCHOOL EXPENSES AND THEN GENERAL SERVICES, WHICH ARE THE BULK OF OUR DISINFECTION OF PELVIC FACILITIES AND THE PPS THAT'S BEING PURCHASED.
SO, UM, THOSE ARE THE MAJOR CATEGORIES THAT INCREASED AND IN, I JUST GAVE YOU THE, UM, DETAILED EXPENDITURES FOR THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE CHANGED SINCE LAST MONTH.
AND, UM, I GAVE YOU THE, UM, SCHOOL'S SPREADSHEET.
IT'S REALLY GOOD AND VERY DETAILED.
AND, UM, I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU THAT FOR THE SCHOOLS DIRECTLY.
AND THEN, UM, SOME THINGS THAT STILL HAVE ON MY INDIVIDUAL SPREADSHEET, BUT THAT I'VE PUT IN THERE AS WELL.
BUT, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I KNOW YOU, HAVEN'T GOT TO READ IT, READ THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS, BUT I'M HAPPY.
UM, JUST STOP BY MY OFFICE OR GIVE ME A CALL AND WE'LL KEEP PLUGGING ALONG ANY QUESTIONS FOR TARA.
[E. Reports – Board Members, Interim County Administrator, Interim County Attorney]
NEXT THING ON OUR AGENDA IS THE REPORTS ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE A REPORT, ANOTHER REPORT FOR JUST REMEMBER, OR JUST REMIND EVERYBODY TO, UH, TO GET OUT AND VOTE A LOT OF, UH, DIFFERENT ISSUES ON THE BALLOT.UM, AND I THINK THERE'S STILL TIME FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE, UH, OF THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE.
I KNOW I VOTED UP THERE THIS PAST WEEK, SO IF YOU'RE NOT SURE IT'S PROBABLY ON OUR WEBSITE AS FAR AS HOW LONG THAT'S OPEN.
I THINK IT MAY BE OPEN UNTIL THE SATURDAY PRIOR TO WHEN I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE, BUT YEAH.
UH, MR. DALEY SHAKING HIS HEAD LIKE A BOBBLEHEAD.
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NO, I JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET OUT AND VOTE AND WHOEVER YOU GO FOR YOU VOTE FOR, BUT HAVE YOUR VOICE HEARD.UM, OH, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO REPORT THAT, UM, ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER, AND I'M LOSING MY TIME.
I THINK IT WAS THE 10TH, 11TH, MAYBE 12TH OR 13TH OR WHATEVER.
UM, I ATTENDED THE EDA STRATEGIC PLANNING.
UM, IT WAS A RETREAT AND IT WAS FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY.
THERE WERE A NUMBER OF, UH, COMMUNITY BUSINESS LEADERS WHO ATTENDED.
AND THERE WAS A LOT OF INCREDIBLE INFORMATION THAT IT WAS EXCHANGED WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE FUTURE AND WHAT WE WANTED WARREN COUNTY TO LOOK LIKE AND, UM, HOW WE COULD CREATE PLANS TO WORK COOPERATIVELY COOPERATIVELY WITH THE TOWN.
AND, UM, AND WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL SORTS OF TOURISM ACTIVITIES THAT COULD BE INCLUDED.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY IT WAS A VERY POSITIVE EVENT AND, UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS BODY IS PLANNING MR. MAY, IF I'M CORRECT TO HAVE ONE OF ITS OWN IN NOVEMBER.
UM, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SETTING THAT DATA.
I THINK IF WE COULD SET THAT DATE TONIGHT, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
UM, THAT, THAT WE NEED TO, UM, WE HAVE A MODERATOR THAT WANTS TO JOIN US, VERIFYING WITH THE MODERATOR.
THEN WE'LL SET THE DATE THAT HE'S AVAILABLE.
AND THEN I ALSO ATTENDED THE FORMATION OF A COMMITTEE DRUG.
UH, I GUESS I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT A TASK FORCE CAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT IT IS, BUT IT'S A COMMUNITY INTEREST GROUP TO LOOK INTO POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP RESOURCE OUR COMMUNITY AGAINST THE DRUG PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE.
WE HAVE A HUGE ADDICTION PROBLEM.
UM, WE'VE HAD, I BELIEVE THAT THE SHERIFF REPORTED ONE IN 600 PEOPLE HAVE OVERDOSED IN THIS COMMUNITY, WHICH IS A VERY SAD NUMBER AND THAT WE COULD WORK TOWARD EDUCATION OF YOUNG PEOPLE PERHAPS.
AND, UM, AND TRY TO COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO FIND THE RESOURCES AND THE PEOPLE WHO CAN HELP US DETERMINE HOW TO, HOW TO APPROACH THIS ISSUE, UM, AS LEADERS.
UM, I THINK THAT ALSO I'D LIKE TO STATE TONIGHT BASED ON WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS ROOM IS THAT I APPRECIATE REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT AND SO MUCH TONIGHT.
UM, WE ARE REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE THE PASSIONS OF MEN NEED TO BE THOUGHT THROUGH.
AND IF THE PASSION'S MADE THE DECISIONS, THEN YOU COULD SEE WHAT HAPPENED HERE.
LEADERSHIP IS ABOUT BRINGING OPPOSING SIDES TOGETHER AND FINDING A COMMON GROUND.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS SO MANY HURTING PEOPLE RIGHT NOW.
AND AS LEADERS WE NEED TO BUILD UP AND NOT TEAR DOWN THIS COMMUNITY, UH, IT'S TIME.
I THINK THAT WE ALL AGREE TO COME TOGETHER AND TRY TO FIND SOLUTIONS AND, UH, STOP THE CONTENTIOUS EXCHANGES.
UM, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO LEAD AN EFFORT TO DO THAT.
AND I JUST LIKE TO PUT THAT OUT THERE ON THE PUBLIC RECORD, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO FORM A GROUP THAT IS LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS IN THE COMMUNITY, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HELP LEAD THAT ORGANIZATION.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO ADD.
UM, I WAS PART OF THE, UM, THE DRUG GROUP THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FORM.
UH, WE WILL BE SOLIDIFYING IT, I THINK IT'S NEXT THURSDAY.
IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE, YES.
THAT'S 38, THE NEXT THURSDAY AT EIGHT 30, THE NEXT 30 IN HERE.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE DONE A LOT TO, UM, LOOK AT THE DRUG PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTY.
UM, WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT THE PROBLEMS OF HUNGER, HOMELESSNESS, UM, MEDICAL ASSISTANCE, TRANSPORTATION.
I MEAN, THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE'VE GOT OUR COMMUNITY THAT IS, UM, HAS SO MANY FISHERS IN IT.
AND THEN WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BRING THOSE PEOPLE BACK TOGETHER AND WE'RE DOING THAT BY DOING GOOD WORK.
UH, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO IS JUST GET THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING TO BE GOOD FOR ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ADD ANYTHING MORE TO ADD MRS. COLORS.
I JUST WONDER TO BRING UP A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UM, WE ALL KNOW WE'VE GOT A TON OF COMMITTEES AND THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THOSE.
I DID WANT TO SAY THAT, UM, I HAD MADE PLANS TO BE HERE AN HOUR BEFORE MEETINGS TODAY.
CAUSE WE WENT INTO CLOSED SESSION, UH, WAS HERE FOR OUR PLANNING, UH, OUR WORK SESSION LAST WEEK.
AND I THINK WE HAD ONE PERSON COME, BUT THAT'S A START.
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INTERESTED IN COMING BEFORE, MEETINGS DID FOR US TO HEAR YOU I'LL BE HERE EXCEPT ON THE DAYS THAT WE HAVE A MEETING, A CLOSED SESSION BEFOREHAND.ALSO WE HAVE CREATED, UM, THE BROADBAND COMMITTEE, BUT WE'RE ALL LOOKING FOR SOME PEOPLE TO APPLY OUT OF EACH OF OUR DISTRICTS.
UM, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO MAKE PHONE CALLS AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THAT, BUT IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST EITHER YOU'VE GOT BUSINESS BACKGROUND OR BROADBAND AND UM, WE NEED YOUR HELP TO HELP YOU.
SO IF YOU WOULD, UM, CONTACT THROUGH THE WEBSITE, I BELIEVE MR. ROCKY, THERE IS AN APPLICATION FORM THERE.
UM, SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT.
OR ON THAT WEBSITE, EACH OF OUR CONTACT INFORMATION IS THERE FOR EMAIL AND CALLING.
WE NEED, WE NEED VOLUNTEERS TO HELP IN THIS.
UM, AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY IS TO, UM, GET OUT AND VOTE.
WE SEE TONIGHT WITH THE IMPORTANCE OF, OF YOUR VOICE IS, BUT HOW BETTER CAN IT BE SAID THAN TO PUT IT INTO A VOTE? AND I KNOW THIS HALLOWEEN, WE, WE WON'T MEET TIL AFTER ALL THE WING.
AND I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON THE KIDS.
THIS HALLOWEEN'S GOING TO BE A WEIRD HALLOWEEN.
SO EVERYBODY TRICK OR TREAT AS SAFELY AS YOU CAN WITH YOUR KIDS, ENJOY IT THE BEST YOU CAN, EVEN IF YOU SET ON YOUR OWN PORCH AND THROW CANDY TO YOUR OWN KIDS, LET'S GET SOME KID FRIENDLY STUFF GOING HERE TONIGHT.
THANK YOU, MR. FOX, UH, ATTENDED AIRPORT COMMISSION MEETING, AND ONE OF THE TOPICS WHAT'S THE NOISE AT THE TOW PLANE MAKES THEM REPORT ON LADDERS.
UH, IT IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED, BUT, UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE AIRPORT IS TO PERHAPS HOW IT WORKS SESSION.
AT SOME POINT, IF THE NOISE CONTINUES OWN IT FOR THE BENEFIT TO SEE WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO, UH, TO REMEDY THAT NOISE THAT MAYBE AT CERTAIN HOURS OR SOMETHING.
OUR INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, MR. DALEY.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M GONNA SEND YOU EACH COPY OF THE REPORT, UM, TO LET YOU KNOW, TOMORROW AT FIVE O'CLOCK, THE SCHOOL BOARD WILL MEET AT DIVERSIFIED MINDS.
THEY WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION EARLY IN THE MEETING, FIVE 15, FIVE 20.
THEY WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE, UH, FROM A CONSULTANT REGARDING, UH, HEALTH INSURANCE.
AND THEY ARE IN THE SAME CONCERN WE HAVE WITH VALLEY HEALTH AND INCOME.
AND YOU'RE INVITED TO COME AND LISTEN AND LEARN ABOUT THIS.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TODAY WAS OUR BOND SALE.
AND I TO SEND THESE ACROSS, IF I COULD PLEASE, UH, CAME OUT A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAD ANTICIPATED, I WANTED TO WALK THROUGH IT WITH YOU REAL QUICKLY.
IF I MAY WAITING FOR THEM TO GET A COPY OVER HERE.
IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE ONE THERE ON THE FRONT, YOU SEE THE WAY WE ORIGINALLY LOOKED AT THESE BONDS WHEN THEY WERE FIRST PRESENTED BEING A TOTAL OF 39, $701,000, THAT WAS BACK IN AUGUST.
AND IF YOU FLIP THAT OVER AND JUST LOOK AT THE BACK PAGE THERE THAT $1,111,485 35 CENTS IS WHAT WE WOULD HAVE SAVED.
IF WE TOOK ALL SOLD ALL THE BONDS TODAY, THE MARKET CAME IN VERY STRANGE FROM WHERE IT WAS JUST A WEEK AGO ON, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP OF THAT BACK OF THAT FIRST PAGE, YOU SEE THE 2013 AND THE SAVINGS AND THE LAST COLUMN THERE RUN UP TO 14% AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT WAS ANTICIPATED THE SAVINGS AND THE LOWER HALF THERE ON THE 14, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE NOW NOT TAX EXEMPT OR TAXABLE.
THOSE SAVINGS ARE VERY LOW AND THERE'S VERY FEW OF THEM ABOVE 5%.
THEREFORE WE LOOKED AT COUPLE OF OPTIONS.
THE NEXT PAY NEXT FULL PAGE THERE HAS AT THE BOTTOM 2013 AND SOME 2014.
AND IT HAS A TOTAL CIRCLE OF 9 MILLION, 54,665.
AND THAT IF YOU FLIP THAT PAGE OVER AND LOOK,
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YOU CAN SEE, WE WOULD SELL ALL OF THE 20 THIRTEENS AND ONLY FOUR OF THE 20 FOURTEENS.AND THAT WOULD SAVE A TOTAL OF SEVEN 92 THAT DROPS DOWN BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CLOSING COSTS THAT ARE BUILT INTO THESE BONDS AND OUR AVERAGE SAVINGS THERE.
IF YOU LOOK GOES DOWN BELOW THE 5% IN THE 20 FOURTEENS.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE THIRD PAGE WHERE IT SAYS 2013 ALONE, THAT'S FOUR, SIX, FOUR EIGHT TOTAL.
AND IF YOU FLIP THAT PAGE OVER THE SAVINGS GOES DOWN TO 277,000 BECAUSE OF THE COST OF THE ISSUANCE.
IF YOU REMEMBER, WE LOOKED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT THE COST.
SO WHEN I TALKED TO THEM TODAY, I CAME, WE CAME UP WITH WHAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE LAST FULL PAGE, MODIFIED 2013 AND 2014.
AND IF THAT'S THE TOTAL SALE OF 14 MILLION, EIGHT 45, AND IF YOU FLIP THAT PAGE OVER, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE SELL ALL OF THE 20 THIRTEENS AND WE SELL FIVE DIFFERENT ISSUES OF THE 20 FOURTEENS.
AND IT BRINGS OUR SAVINGS BACK UP TO 922,000 TO 34 AND PUSHES THE SAVINGS BACK UP ABOVE THE 5% ALL IN THE FINAL.
THEY CAME UP THIS AFTERNOON, THEY CAME UP WITH LIKE 6.02%.
SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE TAD HIGHER THAN THIS.
AND PART OF THIS IS DUE THAT OUR ADVISOR REDUCED THE COST OF THE CLOSING BY $45,000.
SO THEY CONTRIBUTED THAT TO THIS PROJECT.
SO THIS IS WHAT THE SALE WILL LOOK LIKE.
IT WILL BE A 14 MILLION, 400, 845,000.
AND WE WILL SAVE NINE 20 TO 122,000 AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO SELL ANY OF THE OTHER BONDS IF THE TAX MARKET CHANGES SO THAT THEY ARE NO LONGER TAXABLE NEXT YEAR OR IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH THAT SALE.
I WANTED YOU TO SEE THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAD A WEEK AGO, MR. MAY, BUT THE MARK OF THE VSBA JUST DID NOT GET THE RATES.
THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD GET, THEY WERE, THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE WHAT YOU LOOKED AT LAST WEEK AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE THEY FEEL IT WAS BECAUSE OF RISK.
EVERYBODY FLOODED THE MARKET BEFORE THE ELECTION, AND THAT WAS CRITICAL HAPPENING, BUT WE'RE STILL SAVING MONEY.
YOU SEE, WE SAVED THE 5% WHEN YOU GET THE BIG BOOK, IT'LL BE ABOUT 25 PAGES.
YOU'LL SAVE APPROXIMATELY 90,000 A YEAR.
THAT WAS GOING TO BE, MY QUESTION IS WHAT'S THE YEARLY AMOUNT IS ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.
UM, THE, UM, ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? OKAY.
I WAS LOOKING AT ON THE BACK OF THE FIRST PAGE AND I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE SEVEN 15, 20, 25 THAT HAS A CURRENT INTEREST RATE OF 5%.
SEVEN 15, 20, 25 TO 14 YEAR, A YEAR, 14 BONDS HAS SHOWN A 5% INTEREST RATE.
CURRENT I'LL READING 2034, SIR.
WHAT WOULD BE THE 2014 BONDS, I GUESS, BUT THEN THE FIRST ONE, THERE IS SEVEN, 15, 20, 25, AND THAT'S SHOWING 5%.
THAT'S THE INTEREST RATE THAT THEY WOULD PAY? THE PROPOSED PURCHASER WAS GOING TO CHARGE IT.
UM, GOING BACK TO, UM, CHESTER GAP, UM, IN RAPPAHANNOCK COUNTY, THEY HAVE LOOKED AT THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT THAT WE'VE DRAFTED UP AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO SEND THAT DOWN AND, UH, JASON HAVE A SHOT AT THAT AND IT WILL BE ON YOUR AGENDA NOVEMBER 4TH, IT'S READY TO BE COMPLETED.
I WAS ASKED THAT THIS AFTERNOON AND, UH, REGARDING THE QUESTION THOUGH, THE, UH, DEMONSTRATION LAST WEEK, UH, MAJOR DRISCOLL FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS DRAFTED A PERMIT PROCESS THAT WERE CIRCULATING THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENTS.
AND WE WILL BE PRESENTING TO YOU HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH THAT WE'LL HAVE A
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PROCESS OR ANY PERMIT IN THE USE OF COUNTY RESOURCES FOR THAT TYPE OF EVENT.UM, AS YOU WERE SPEAKING, MR. CHAIRMAN, I GOT A NOTE BACK FROM THE FACILITATOR AND THE DATES YOU SUGGESTED ARE GOOD IF YOU WANT TO ANNOUNCE THEM.
HERE'S A FACILITATOR, SHARON GRUMBLING FROM WINCHESTER SERVER.
SO I BELIEVE THAT THE PROPOSED DATES THEN, UM, 13TH AND 14TH, UM, LET ME JUST DOUBLE CHECK THAT IN MY CALENDAR.
SO WHEN YOU WANT, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.
OH, IT IS THE 13TH AND FOURTH, THIRD.
THAT'S A FRIDAY AND A SATURDAY, CORRECT? FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY.
SO WILL BE A COUPLE HOURS ON FRIDAY EVENING, MR. DALEY AND THEN, OR DR.
AND THEN, UM, LIKE MAYBE SIX HOURS ON SATURDAY.
I THINK THE EDA DID EIGHT UNTIL THREE WITH AN HOUR OR A LITTLE BIT LONGER FOR LUNCH.
THIS IS GRUMBLING MIGHT BE A LITTLE QUICKER, MAN, BUT WE'LL BE CLOSE THERE.
WE WILL BE ASKING OUR, UM, SENIOR MANAGEMENT TEAM FROM THE COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS WITH YOU AND THE CHAIR OF YOUR COMMITTEES, YOUR KEY COMMITTEES, THAT WILL BE WITH YOU ALSO YOUR AMMO WORKOUT ABSOLUTE END TIME OR BEGIN TIMES IN TIMES OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS.
UM, CAN WE DO THIS BY ZOOM? LIKE WE DID THE EDA STRATEGIC PLANNING.
IT WORKED VERY WELL FOR THOSE WHO WANTED TO BE IN ZOOM MEETINGS.
I HAVE NOT TALKED TO HER ABOUT CREATING THE ZOOM ROOMS. UH, SO THAT'LL BE A, THAT'LL BE A NEW TECHNOLOGY, BUT WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO LEARN HOW TO DO IT.
I'M I'M SURE MRS. SHIRAKI CAN TEACH.
YES, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS.
OUR INTERIM COUNTY ATTORNEY, UH, MR. HAM, I HAVE NO REPORT.
[F. Approval of Minutes]
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO APPROVE THE APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR OUR SPECIAL MEETING ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2020 AND OUR REGULAR MEETING ON OCTOBER 6TH, 2020.IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR CONCERNS? WE'LL WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE.
[G. Appropriations and Transfers]
NEXT TIME TAMARA AGENDA IS THE APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS.DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THOSE MOVED TO APPROVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? ROLL CALL PLEASE.
MS. OATS, MR. CHAIRMAN, MS. COLORS.
AH, JUST SO THAT YOU ALL KNOW YOU EACH HAVE THESE LITTLE PURPLE BOOKS AND THESE LITTLE PURPLE BOOK SHOW YOU THE LINE ITEMS OF EACH DEPARTMENT, THE BUDGET.
SO YOU CAN LOOK AND SEE WHAT THEY ARE.
DID YOU, DOES EVERYBODY GET ONE OF THOSE? I KNOW THAT YOU GAVE THEM OUT AND THEN THE FOLEY, THE BIG SHEET.
EVERYTHING THAT'S RESERVED FOR ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT AND FINANCE IS WORKING TO CLEAN SOME OF THESE UP FROM PRIOR YEARS THAT THERE'S NO ACTIVITY ANYMORE, BUT YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE PROJECTS AND SEE WHAT THEY ARE AND WHAT MONEY'S FLOWING IN AND OUT OF THEM IN THE LAST ONE.
[H. Approval of Accounts]
NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE ACCOUNTS MOVED TO APPROVE.ANY QUESTIONS? CONCERNS? WE'LL CALL PLEASE.
[I. Consent Agenda]
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ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE CONSENT.UH, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS TO BE PULLED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'D LIKE TO PULL NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE.
WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE ABSENCE OF HUMBLE.
ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? COULD WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. CARTER.
[I.4. Request – Closure of Warren County Circuit Court Clerk’s Office on December 31, 2020 – Angie Moore]
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, THE REQUEST FOR CLOSURE OF COUNTY CIRCUIT COURT OFFICE ON DECEMBER 31ST, 2020.UH, YES, IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AT OUR WORK SESSION THAT, AND I'LL READ HERE IS THAT THE WARREN COUNTY CIRCUIT COURT OFFICER'S REQUESTING TO BE CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC ON DECEMBER 31ST, THE SUPREME COURT OF VIRGINIA IS CLOSED ON THIS DAY, BUT THE GOVERNOR OF VIRGINIA HAS NOT CHOSEN TO OBSERVE OR DESIGNATED AS A HOLIDAY.
SO, UM, I'M MOVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE REQUEST OF THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT CLOSE THE WARREN COUNTY CIRCUIT COURT ON DECEMBER 31ST, NEW YEAR'S EVE FOR ANY YEAR, THE SUPREME COURT OF VIRGINIA DECLARES THIS DAY, A HOLIDAY, BUT THE GOVERNOR OF VIRGINIA DOES NOT.
I ALSO MOVED THAT THE WORD TO SUPERVISOR DECLARES THIS DAY, A HOLIDAY FOR ALL WARREN COUNTY GOVERNMENT OFFICES.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I JUST KNOW THAT IN THE PAST, AND THAT'S WHAT THE GOVERNOR WILL DO, ESPECIALLY IF THE THANKSGIVING NEW YEAR'S EVE, A LOT OF TIMES HE'LL GO AHEAD AND GRANT THAT TO STATE EMPLOYEES.
UM, AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER THAN GIVING HER PAY RATE, BUT I WOULD, I DON'T THINK I WOULD GO AS FAR AS WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.
UM, AND THERE AGAIN, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, UH, THE GOVERNOR GRANTS THOSE HOLIDAYS ANYWAY.
AND AGAIN, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF A CONVENIENCE IT IS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP.
NO, I JUST THINK WITH THE REQUESTS THAT MRS. MOORE MADE IT MADE, IT MAKES SENSE.
THEY, THEY CAN'T DO THEIR JOB ADEQUATELY WHEN PART OF THE SYSTEM THEY NEED IS SHUT DOWN.
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO GRANT THEM, I JUST THINK IT'S FAIR TO THE REST OF THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES THAT WE CONSIDER THEM.
IT'S, ESPECIALLY THIS YEAR WITH EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH WITH COVID AND SO FORTH.
SO I JUST, I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS, UM, THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
BUT IF I UNDERSTAND, MAYBE I'M WRONG ON THAT.
UH, THEY'RE GETTING CLARIFY FOR THE COURT.
IT'S NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT WILL THEY STILL BE DOWN THERE CATCHING UP ON STUFF? NO, NO, NO.
CAUSE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TOO.
I'M OKAY WITH DOING IT FOR THIS YEAR, BUT IF I UNDERSTOOD YOUR MOTION CORRECTLY, IT SAID EVERY, EVERY TIME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR ANY ARE THERE.
SO FRANKLY I DON'T THINK I'D GO THAT FAR.
CAUSE I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, USUALLY THE GOVERNOR GOES AHEAD AND DOES IT I'M OKAY.
WE'RE DOING IT THIS YEAR AND THEN SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT NEXT YEAR.
MR. DALEY, JUST AS A SUGGESTION.
UM, THIS YEAR IN PARTICULAR, THE, THE FIRST OF HIS IS ON A FRIDAY, SO IT WOULD BE THURSDAY, FRIDAY, RIGHT NEXT YEAR.
IT WOULD BE FRIDAY, SATURDAY, BECAUSE FRIDAY WOULD BE THE NEW YEAR'S HOLIDAY IN TWO YEARS.
SO SATURDAY I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU APPROVE THIS FOR THIS YEAR.
AND THEN LOOK AT FUTURE YEARS WHEN THAT DECEMBER 31ST IS I'LL MAKE THAT AMENDMENT.
OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO RE STATE YOUR MOTION? THAT MAY BE EASIER IF YOU WERE AGREEABLE TO THAT? I WOULD RESTRICT YOUR MOTION.
SO IF YOU MOVE THE SECOND DOWN HERE AS THE MOTION, THE UNDER THE DOOR AND THEN JUST ADDED COUNTY FACILITIES.
SO YOU WANT ME TO GO WITH THE SECOND ONE AND ADD THE COUNTY? OKAY.
I MOVED THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THAT WOULD BE, THAT'S NOT RIGHT EITHER.
FOR THE YEAR I WOULD MAKE IT FOR, I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TO SAY FOR THIS YEAR, WITH CONSIDERATION EACH
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YEAR, CONSIDER TO REVISIT IT.WE HAVE TO SECOND THAT INCLUDES COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND THE COURTHOUSE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
YOU HAVE A SECOND I'LL SECOND IT, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS AND SOCIAL SERVICES.
UM, SO WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE.
HI MR. CHAIRMAN, MS. OATS, MR. CARTER.
I DON'T BELIEVE A MOTION FOR JORDAN MOVED TO ADJOURN.